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00:01:07.000They say, "Cross don't be a good lover, so they never leave your day, boys." They're out of time, they say, "Cross don't be a good lover, so they never leave your day, boys." They say, "Cross don't be a good lover, so they never leave your day, boys." They say, "Cross don't be a good lover, so they never leave your day, boys." There was no hope, there's a heart.
00:06:30.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
00:06:35.000We're being slowly poisoned and in some cases quickly murdered and assassinated.
00:06:41.000And we're killing ourselves every day, inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see.
00:06:48.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
00:06:56.000People have got to start to get courageous.
00:06:58.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time.
00:07:09.000And to transform and sanctify this country.
00:07:12.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
00:07:16.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
00:07:21.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
00:07:27.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
00:07:31.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
00:09:32.000You got that back, back, dance her like a funk You got that back, back, dance her like a funk Men's a Dina, Dina, Dina, Dina You got that back, back, dance her like a funk You got that back, back, dance her like a funk You got that back, back, dance her like a funk Dance her like a funk We paved the way with our corpses.
00:10:18.000I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.
00:10:25.000For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.
00:10:31.000We know that the whole creation has been groaning, as in the pains of childbirth, right up to the present time.
00:10:40.000Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the spirit groan inwardly, as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.
00:14:32.000I am sending you out like sheep among women.
00:14:36.000Therefore, be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
00:14:43.000Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
00:14:50.000Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
00:15:05.000And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age.
00:15:13.000That's what people always say, isn't it?
00:16:00.000And we want people that can burn real more than anything.
00:16:04.000But this country can no longer be held hostage by a small minority that doesn't believe no life.
00:16:13.000The mission of our movement is to make this country a Christian country.
00:16:23.000The only way we're gonna do it is not by infiltrating, not by subverting, not by lying, which is what a lot of people do.
00:16:32.000The only way that we're gonna make this happen is with the boldness of a real Christian.
00:16:38.000The only way we have got to be willing to die for Jesus Christ.
00:16:43.000We have to want it more than they do because there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, and nothing can stop us, And nothing will.
00:18:20.000You got that hot, hot, this her time to phone Menjelina, girl, menjelina, girl, you got that hot, hot, that's her like a phone You got that hot, hot, that's her like a phone You got that hot, hot, this her time to phone Menjelina, girl, you got that hot, hot, this her time to phone Thank you.
00:18:38.000No one's allowed to say that the blood is quite essential part of this, that the blood of our people is something that is essential.
00:19:07.000Palantir is an AI data analytics company.
00:19:11.000They use artificial intelligence to look at vast amounts of data and create insights.
00:19:19.000If the government has an amount of data which is kind of unimaginable, if you've got every phone call, every email, every transaction, every photograph of a license plate on the highway, satellite data.
00:19:33.000It's too much data for a bureaucracy to sift through.
00:19:36.000Palantir comes in and interprets the data using algorithms, using artificial intelligence, using software to make vast amounts of data usable.
00:21:11.000you remove the fear and love of God you create the fear and love of everything else you're talking to somebody right now that only fears God Jesus has won the victory bro this this is a Christian nation this is a miracle
00:26:07.000plays* I'm a doctor but I'm running out of patience She told me I'm just trying to get closer to sleep When I get home, I want you Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, I got places to be good evening, everybody.
00:29:39.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden looming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
00:29:47.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:30:02.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:30:11.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Group of Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Xyoshill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty, of course,
00:30:26.000uh defending Nick Fuente and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First Movement, um, who uh through an increasing amount of activism are are really going to ensure uh the future and the and the success of that movement.
00:30:41.000We can't be held hostage by this country forever.
00:34:06.000My innocence is purified, feed from desire Na na na na na na na na Thank you.
00:34:18.000If we don't have freedom on the internet in the age of AI, we are going to be mind-raped every day forever.
00:34:26.000Think about anything you've ever said or done in the vicinity of your phone's camera or microphone, everything you've ever put into your phone, and even things that are not necessarily so scandalous, but even things like your favorite restaurants, your geolocation, because your phone also has a GPS.
00:34:47.000They know what you buy, they have access to your bank account.
00:34:50.000AI will literally know everything about you.
00:34:54.000Everyone you know, your relationship to them, your tastes, your preferences, your habits, your whereabouts, your routines, your schedule, when you're asleep.
00:35:04.000They know how much REM sleep you're getting, they know your resting heart rate, they know how many calories you consume.
00:35:11.000Think about the ways that they can manipulate you.
00:35:13.000You have a computer in your refrigerator, computer in your car, computer in your home security system, computer in your everything, computer in your clothes, your watch, your glasses, your VR headset, your alarm clock.
00:35:25.000You have a smart home, economy of things.
00:35:28.000It's like total, like, rape of everybody by the system forever.
00:35:34.000My life is like a first-person video game, you know?
00:38:14.000I mean, only people Only a class of people so rootless in their position that you America in such a way is merely a vessel for abstractions, right?
00:38:27.000We're going to smash your brain in with the Bible, idiot.
00:38:38.000We're going to smash your brain in with the Bible, idiot.
00:38:40.000And I'm addicted to the serotonin rush.
00:39:48.000The classroom couldn't believe it either.
00:39:52.000But in the end, he had logic on his side.
00:40:00.000And at the end of the day, we'll prove this point.
00:40:02.000I feel like the Nero on Casino, where they got the selling for the Cino.
00:40:11.000No, son, and when you growin' on an ice, what you think me to girls even throwing on a grace put the game, pretty game, what a real like the new focusino.
00:47:27.000I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.
00:47:31.000Therefore, be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
00:47:38.000Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
00:47:45.000Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
00:48:00.000And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
00:48:05.000We can't be held hostage by this country forever.
00:49:06.000You got that back, back, this girl on the phone Man, you need a beauty girl, man, you need a beauty girl You got that back, back, that girl on the phone You got that back, back, this girl on the phone You got that back, back, this girl on the phone Okay.
00:49:21.000There is something involved where we have to forgive them.
00:49:24.000We do have to forgive them for their ignorance.
00:49:27.000We do have to forgive them for their misunderstanding.
00:49:30.000And we have to embrace them and say, better late than never.
00:50:58.000And we want people to convert real important.
00:51:02.000But this country can no longer be held hostage by a small minority that doesn't feel the mission of our movement is to make this country a Christian country.
00:51:17.000The mission is to create a Christian future in our time.
00:51:21.000The only way we're going to do it is not by infiltrating, not by subverting, not by lying, which is what a lot of people do.
00:51:29.000The only way that we're going to make this happen is with the boldness of a real Christian.
00:51:45.000Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us and nothing will.
00:51:58.000White supremacist slash holocaust denier named Nick Fuentes.
00:56:07.000I want this show for myself I do it just a lot My voice is nothing but I scream and I'm for help I stretch my hair, but my cup just goes up.
00:56:28.000I stretch my hair, but my cup just goes up.
00:56:55.000I got places to be good evening, everybody watching America First.
01:00:13.000And that he believes in conspiracies and and that he believes that the Jews are this sinister, secretly organized force um trying to affect American politics.
01:00:23.000And those aren't discussions I think uh normal people, uh, sober people should be having.
01:00:30.000And maybe it's just an accident that the guy goes after exclusively goes after people who are in the same, roughly the same.
01:00:40.000And then he gets up there and he's like, you know, making a Holocaust jokes.
01:00:43.000When attacked, he can always fall back on the line.
01:00:46.000Well, the you know, the tiny cabal that controls American politics doesn't like me because I speak truth to power.
01:00:52.000This is actually incidentally almost verbatim what he said the other day, that I offend the plutocracy, um, that I'm a wanted man by the inside the beltway people, and in an in every sense, cast himself as uh as a victim who is sort of a Karen Silkwood of politics, someone who's uh so truthful that he's being hunted down by the uh by the conspiracy that runs Washington.
01:01:26.000My love has got no money, he's got his strong beliefs.
01:01:32.000People just want more and more freedom and love.
01:01:36.000But he's looking for a more and more people just want more and more freedom and blood.
01:01:44.000what he's looking for there is something involved where we have to forgive them we do have to forgive them for their ignorance we do have to forgive them for their misunderstanding
01:02:12.000And we have to embrace them and say, better late than never.
01:06:49.000He says Nick Fuentes is leading all the disaffected young white men.
01:06:54.000I am a disaffected white young white man.
01:06:57.000I was a precocious, intelligent young white college student who went to Boston University, who was pro-Trump and red pilled by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America first.
01:07:08.000And I asked questions about Israel, and I was punished for it.
01:07:12.000I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about Israel last year.
01:07:17.000And I sacrificed, and I was targeted by the ADL, by the SPLC, by the federal government, by the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were a part of.
01:09:04.000An overflowing of self-giving love, so much as it cannot be contained.
01:09:13.000An unconditional, absolute standard of love for all of God's children, even those that are misguided, even those that persecute us, even the most heinous among us.
01:10:18.000The Canary Mission is an Israeli-funded
01:10:42.000blacklist, which since July 2025 has been confirmed to be used by the Trump administration to target students, professors, and professionals who oppose Israel and reside in the United States.
01:10:52.000This idea is part of an initiative created by the Heritage Foundation, the same group responsible for the infamous Project 2025.
01:11:00.000In their initiative, titled Project Esther, they state that students participating in pro-Palestinian protests and activism are supporting Hamas, a group that the United States designates as a foreign terrorist organization.
01:11:11.000Therefore, pro-Palestinian students are considered to be supporting terrorism and are subject to the revocation of visas, frozen bank accounts, asset seizures, and the denial of basic constitutional rights.
01:11:24.000In effect, the Canary mission serves as a means to circumvent constitutional protections, allowing the federal government to engage in intelligence gathering activities that would otherwise be considered unlawful.
01:11:36.000Palantir, another company closely aligned with the state of Israel, uses AI-driven analytics to maintain private databases on U.S. citizens and currently works with four federal agencies.
01:11:46.000While government contracting with the private sector is long-standing, the prominent influence of Jewish groups within these increasingly powerful organizations warrants careful examination.
01:11:55.000I renew the call for all able-bodied young American men, all of our elite human capital, all of our geniuses, warriors, intelligent people to dedicate themselves to American sovereignty and independence.
01:12:12.000As Christians, as Americans, as white people, as citizens of the United States.
01:12:17.000And any anybody that settles for anything less is just as much of an enemy, I would actually consider them worse than our oppressors.
01:12:25.000So on Independence Day, it's important to reflect on the fact that we are an occupied nation.
01:12:30.000Now, just like then, we're being ruled by a small country across an ocean, serving itself at our expense.
01:12:36.000And as long as that is the case, I will always be obsessed with that.
01:12:39.000As long as that is the case, I will always be speaking out against that and fighting against that, and I will always be anchored, understanding that that is the fundamental struggle.
01:12:48.000As long as our presidents have to kiss the wall in Israel and wear a small hat, as long as they have to say that we want to make Israel great again, and they're the greatest country ever, and I will never be okay with that.
01:13:01.000And it doesn't matter what they offer me or us, it doesn't matter how they might try to placate us or appease our interests, the concessions they'll make, as long as that is the case, it is unacceptable.
01:13:15.000And that's what it means to be an American.
01:14:01.000And Barack Obama brought together China, Russia, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and the United States, and the European Union to enforce a nuclear deal that restricts Iran's enrichment of uranium.
01:14:15.000The early talks were conducted in secret, and the Israelis were furious, furious about this.
01:14:23.000Netanyahu went to a joint session of Congress and gave a speech in defiance of the American president and its nuclear deal, and Congress gave 37 standing ovations.
01:14:33.000This is the background of Trump's first election.
01:15:56.000They colluded with Trump to get him elected, so that Trump would do maximum pressure and create a ladder of escalation, pulling us out of the deal, declaring the IRGC terrorists, then killing its leader, putting sanctions on the regime.
01:16:11.000This is a war that started a long time ago that Trump made hot in 2018 and has been going on for seven years.
01:16:23.000Just like in Iraq, which went from 1990 until today, just like Libya, Which went from 2011 to today, Syria, which went from 2011 to today, and Iran, which went from 2018 until today.
01:21:19.000And I have to say, before we even get into some of the analysis tonight, and like I said, trying to pick up where we left off on Thursday and talk a little bit more about what has happened, what has been happening, I do just want to say I'm very grateful, and I think we should all be grateful that we haven't seen any more bloodshed.
01:21:40.000And I really do believe that is a testament to the fact, the reality of what we talked about last week, which is that we, our side is fundamentally different than the other side.
01:21:59.000And as time has passed and the days have gone by, we have had a chance to process the murder, this brutal, horrific public execution.
01:22:12.000We've had a chance to think about it and deal with it in our own way and cope with it.
01:22:18.000And I said on Thursday, I think the reason that this hit home for a lot of people, including and especially me, and honestly, I'm surprised that it did because I really did not like Charlie Kirk.
01:22:31.000The reason that it hit home is because we have been assaulted by wave after wave in America and outside of America in Gaza by graphic and visceral depictions of evil.
01:22:51.000If you were distraught or upset, shaken, disturbed, if you felt darkness, that's because we came face to face with pure evil last week.
01:23:05.000And I'm not just talking about the brutal killing, which took place in front of thousands of young people and then the whole world.
01:23:14.000But then we also saw the nihilistic justifications, celebrations, the indifference, the apathy, people that work as nurses, teachers, people in our community, next door neighbors, people in proximity to us.
01:24:01.000And it is a poignant reminder about that dichotomy, that the response to not only Charlie Kirk's murder, but also the shocking indifference, callous indifference to it by the left is faith.
01:24:24.000The response from our side, because unfortunately, that's what it is now.
01:24:32.000When it comes to issues like murder, there are sides.
01:24:38.000Our side, which still believes that human life is sacred and murder is wrong, and our neighbors' lives are not ours to take, even if we disagree with what they say.
01:24:50.000Our side that believes that our response to the brutality to our encounter with evil was prayer vigils.
01:25:18.000There were unbelievable numbers of young people signing up to create turning point chapters and get involved in other ways politically.
01:25:30.000And you compare that to the other side.
01:25:34.000So much comparing and contrasting, isn't there these days?
01:25:39.000When ICame down in Los Angeles, what did they do?
01:25:44.000Burned cars, drop scooters on police cars, burn the American flag.
01:25:51.000When George Floyd died five years ago, what did they do?
01:25:55.000Loot liquor stores, phone stores, burn down the city.
01:26:01.000When Charlie Kirk was horrifically murdered for no reason at all, for no good reason.
01:26:07.000Not that there is a good reason, but for such a ridiculous petty reason because he did partisan debates at colleges.
01:26:18.000When half the country seemed to rise up instinctually to justify and celebrate the violence, the right wing, by the way, would have been every bit justified, every bit justified in pursuing vengeance.
01:26:34.000A pound of flesh for a pound of flesh, an eye for an eye, because enough is enough.
01:26:40.000They would have been every bit justified.
01:26:44.000This is a big country of 350 million people.
01:27:05.000I think most were calling for the opposite.
01:27:08.000But there was not one instance of reprisal, not one of retaliation.
01:27:17.000And even in the vigils for Charlie Kirk, which were interrupted by these shit-eating leftists who showed up to taunt and mock and ridicule the organizers, they were treated with mercy.
01:29:34.000How did our religion thrive under persecution in the period of the early church?
01:29:43.000And there's a one-word answer to that question.
01:29:46.000Our religion, just like this movement, which is inspired by our religion, it grows by witness.
01:29:56.000It grows by the witness Of the piety and the faith and the love and the sacrifice of the Christians.
01:30:08.000And you know, I said it on Thursday, and I'm gonna double down on it again tonight.
01:30:14.000And some people said this makes me a hypocrite.
01:30:17.000This is contradictory with things I've said in the past.
01:30:21.000But we were a witness on Wednesday to Charlie Kirk being gunned down like a martyr.
01:30:30.000And look at what the witness to Charlie Kirk has turned into.
01:30:36.000When you see the real life testimonials, the videos from young people, from teenagers, from college students, from young men, from young women.
01:30:47.000And honest, honest to God, I've been touched by it.
01:30:50.000All throughout the past week, I have seen countless Instagram reels, TikToks of young men and young women.
01:31:29.000Whoever took his life on Wednesday, I hope whoever it is, whether it's the suspect in custody, Tyler Robinson, who is innocent until proven guilty, or maybe it was some other force or there were accomplices.
01:31:43.000Whoever was involved, whoever cheered it on, I hope they see what they created.
01:31:48.000And I hope they see that what they did backfired.
01:31:52.000You killed one person who, by the way, I didn't even really care for.
01:31:56.000One person who up until he was shot on Wednesday, I didn't even respect that much.
01:32:20.000The witness, the witness to his truth telling, to his character, even if he was imperfect, even if he didn't live up to it all the time, even if there were contradictions, all people are filled with contradictions.
01:32:50.000But the witness to who he tried to be, what he aspired to be, that has inspired millions more to grow closer to God and to suffocate and overcome evil with good, with light, and
01:33:07.000Not with retaliation, not by going to their level, not by murdering each other with our words or literally with bullets, but to suffocate and overcome hopelessness, cynicism, hatred with actual love, with actual benevolence, actual magnanimity.
01:33:32.000And so for anybody that thinks it was a lot of hollow words last week and a lot of sentiment, you know, what is real about what happened is the millions and millions of people who were touched by it.
01:33:44.000And believe it or not, that that means something in itself.
01:34:01.000Many people praised me for sort of putting our differences aside and saying nice things about Charlie Kirk.
01:34:08.000Other people said, well, you know, you didn't like him, isn't it cowardly to not attack him now that he's dead or something.
01:34:17.000But I genuinely do mean it that seeing how he has touched so many lives, and you never, sadly, you never realize that until someone's gone.
01:34:29.000And there's something heartbreaking about that all by itself, isn't there?
01:34:37.000We all had feelings about Charlie Kirk and his work.
01:35:59.000It's important sometimes to look at the good also.
01:36:03.000Such a horrific evil, but the story of our religion, and frankly, the story of our world is a fallenness and evil that is redeemed by love.
01:36:20.000That's actually the beauty, and on some level, that is actually the ultimate meaning of our religion, which is a victory snatched from the jaws of defeat, which is a redemption from evil, from brokenness, which is even greater than the original position.
01:36:44.000It's the fruit being put back on the tree.
01:36:48.000It's the repairing of the world, the healing of the world through the sacrifice.
01:36:57.000And so I'm actually, I am actually touched by the outpouring of support.
01:37:21.000I want to talk about some more topical things.
01:37:24.000You know, of course, Thursday, I spent the entire show uh talking about the state of the country and giving a very general take on the entire tragedy.
01:37:35.000This is something that has rocked the country to its core.
01:37:38.000And it's difficult to say at this point what the ramifications will be, how far reaching it will be, if there will be uh chain reaction.
01:37:47.000And in particular, everybody is on full alert about political violence and the polarization, the tit for tat, the potential for reprisal.
01:37:57.000I don't think we're out of the woods on that just yet.
01:38:00.000But tonight I want to talk in much more detail about the actual killing.
01:38:05.000I think it's appropriate at this point, and I think it's worth talking about.
01:38:09.000Because of course, we talked all about this on Thursday, and much has been said.
01:38:15.000So much has been said, so many takes and positions and plans, ideas.
01:38:22.000And what sticks out in my mind about all of it, for all this talk about civil war, for all this talk about national divorce and a conflict, a war of all against all in America.
01:38:38.000We still don't even know who fired the shot.
01:40:52.000We'll also talk tonight about the Israel angle.
01:40:58.000Many people online are speculating that Israel and its allies in the United States had something to do with the killing of Charlie Kirk.
01:41:08.000That it was a state-sponsored conspiracy involving Israeli intelligence and the American government and maybe other forces to silence Charlie Kirk.
01:41:21.000And a patse was created, a left-wing person was elevated to take the blame for some purpose.
01:41:31.000We'll talk about that theory tonight as well.
01:41:33.000We'll also talk tonight about the left-wing conspiracy theory, which blames the Groypers.
01:41:39.000And this might be the most unbelievable one, and that's saying a lot.
01:41:44.000I've been accused of avoiding the Israeli angle.
01:41:50.000And I'll just say at the outset, I've done one show since Charlie Kirk was murdered.
01:41:56.000I think I've put on Twitter maybe a dozen tweets.
01:42:03.000Honestly, I didn't think it needed to be addressed because it frankly on its face seems ridiculous.
01:42:11.000But somehow there's an even more ridiculous theory that is surfaced, which is that this anti-fascist trans chaser furry who hated Donald Trump and thought Charlie Kirk was a Nazi, was somehow a grouper or far right or a Trump supporter secretly.
01:42:30.000And we'll talk about that conspiracy theory too.
01:42:33.000We'll talk about each of them, and I'll evaluate them at the end of the show.
01:42:57.000I think that part of the problem with this assassination, like with every other tragedy or crisis in the past 10 years, is that nobody trusts the institutions.
01:43:17.000And to me, that is especially interesting because wasn't the whole conceit of the MAGA movement of the Trump election in 1620 and 24?
01:43:31.000this was supposed to be a remedy for that problem.
01:43:35.000What does it say about the Trump administration?
01:43:39.000That we are in the second Trump administration after his third election, 10 years into his political career.
01:43:48.000And people do not have the slightest inclination to trust the government, even on a matter like this, when a close personal friend and political ally of the president himself and many members of his government and a key lieutenant in his movement is dead.
01:44:10.000So you have to leave it to the podcasters.
01:44:13.000You have to leave it to Candace Owens, Michael Savage, Alex Jones, Ian Carroll, Nick Fuentes, Dave Smith, to go through the evidence.
01:44:22.000And that's why I think, like I said on Thursday, people like me have a responsibility to tell you the truth.
01:44:31.000And not only to tell you my opinion, but to rigorously interrogate all the facts, all the angles, give you all the information, the preponderance of the evidence.
01:44:46.000And I will give you my sense, but I'll leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.
01:44:52.000Before we get into it, I want to remind you to smash the follow button on Rumble, smash a like button, leave a comment, and let me know what you think about the show.
01:45:00.000And with that, we're going to dive in.
01:45:02.000First, I want to talk about the official story.
01:45:05.000Full disclosure, I think this is the most likely explanation.
01:45:10.000And I will lay out the evidence and I will tell you why.
01:45:14.000So first, the official story question who killed Charlie Kirk.
01:45:53.000As of today, we have the most damning evidence yet that Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old Mormon student who was studying in an apprenticeship to be an electrician, was the actual culprit behind Charlie Kirk's murder.
01:46:10.000We have evidence today from Discord and from a friend of his.
01:46:18.000According to the Discord platform itself, as well as one of the recipients of this message, Tyler Robinson said the day after Charlie Kirk was murdered to a number of people, that he did it.
01:47:06.000It says, quote, the 22-year-old suspect in Charlie Kirk's killing appears to have confessed to friends in an online chat shortly before turning himself into law enforcement, according to two people familiar with the chat, and screenshots obtained by the Washington Post.
01:47:23.000He wrote, hey guys, I have bad news for you all.
01:47:32.000The message was sent Thursday night, about two hours before officials said Robinson was taken into custody.
01:47:39.000A member of the group chat shared an image of the conversation with the Post and confirmed that it came from Robinson's account.
01:47:46.000Discord provided a copy of the message with the confession to authorities, according to a person familiar with the company's interaction with law enforcement.
01:47:55.000The message was sent from Robinson's account to a small private group of online friends.
01:48:00.000Discord has said that an internal investigation found, quote, no evidence that the suspect planned the incident or promoted violence on Discord.
01:48:08.000Authorities have said one of Robinson's family members reached out to a friend who then contacted law enforcement, saying that Robinson had confessed or implied that he committed the crime.
01:48:21.000Utah Governor Spencer Cox said over the weekend that Robinson's motive is still under investigation, but that the suspect appears to have held a leftist ideology.
01:48:32.000Officials say their interviews indicate that Robinson became more political in recent years and had criticized Kirk.
01:48:39.000The Discord conversation shared with the Post shows members of the group chat reacting to the shooting on Wednesday before the news broke the news broke that Robinson was involved.
01:48:52.000The New York Times reported on a conversation in a different Discord chat group earlier the same day.
01:48:58.000In that conversation, Robinson joked that a doppo ganger was trying to get him in trouble after law enforcement released images of a shooting suspect who resembled him.
01:49:07.000Cox confirmed the existence of that conversation on Sunday and said Robinson's friends did not believe it was actually him at that point.
01:49:14.000The person who provided other messages to the post said they are from a different group.
01:49:51.000And apparently one of the recipients of the message independently.
01:49:56.000They also shared the screenshot with the post, and both the platform and the recipient verified that it came from Robinson's account.
01:50:05.000There's also other people, different people that were in a different server.
01:50:12.000We don't know if the confession was in a group chat or a server, but we do know that Robinson was in a different room, whether it's a server, a separate group chat, where he said that his Doppelganger was trying to get him in trouble.
01:50:28.000He said he would not go to McDonald's.
01:50:30.000That's a reference to Luigi Mangion who got caught at a McDonald's.
01:50:35.000So we're getting evidence from across the Discord platform that he was being a loudmouth.
01:50:51.000There are some inconsistencies in this official story.
01:50:55.000And the biggest inconsistency about this confession, well, there's actually a couple.
01:51:00.000The first is that on Thursday, Discord reported to law enforcement and publicly that this incident was not planned or discussed on the platform.
01:51:14.000Now they come out a week later and they present internally the messages that Robinson sent.
01:51:21.000Now, either somebody is lying here, and Discord was withholding these messages, or did not find these messages, or maybe the messages were fabricated.
01:51:43.000So what happened between Thursday and today?
01:51:47.000That last week, when the news of Tyler Robinson broke, when he was named as a person of interest, Discord washed their hands of it and made a public statement saying there was no involvement.
01:51:59.000And now today they're turning over the messages.
01:52:02.000Now, there's many explanations for this discrepancy.
01:52:06.000One explanation is that the messages were planted or fabricated.
01:52:11.000Another, maybe Discord did not find them.
01:52:15.000Maybe the most likely explanation is the nature of what Discord actually said, which is that the violence was not planned on the server.
01:53:02.000The story goes that Tyler Robinson returns home and apparently evades law enforcement completely.
01:53:11.000Now, that by itself is the subject of a lot of scrutiny.
01:53:16.000How was the prime suspect able to evade this manhunt carrying a long rifle?
01:53:24.000How was he able to evade law enforcement on a college campus, which is loaded up with not just cameras on the campus facilities, but also surrounded by a neighborhood that has doorbell cameras and everybody has an iPhone these days?
01:53:40.000So there's a question of how did he evade in the first place?
01:53:44.000He returns home, apparently, got away scot-free, somehow was able to get home undetected, three and a half hours away from the scene of the crime.
01:53:57.000So he leaps from the rooftop, runs through the neighborhood.
01:54:01.000We don't know how he gets from the neighborhood to his house, three and a half hours away.
01:54:05.000Presumably he got to his car, maybe some accomplice, but he's able to get home undetected, escapes the radius of whatever manhunt was underway at that point, law enforcement checkpoints or surveillance, and immediately starts talking about it openly online.
01:54:29.000If the first thing that happens, you successfully evade law enforcement, you got away, you're home free, you're gonna get away with it, maybe.
01:54:37.000There's no, apparently, no video, no photos.
01:54:41.000They have arrested several other suspects that are not you.
01:54:46.000You go and start mouthing off on Discord.
01:54:49.000Now, if he's a first-time murderer, you could say he might act in an irrational way.
01:54:56.000But certainly that is an irrational way to behave.
01:55:03.000Twenty-two-year-olds that commit a murder in cold blood and then become the subjects of the manhunt, maybe they self-report, maybe they get nervous.
01:55:13.000But people that carry out a sophisticated attack like that without being apprehended or detected and able to evade law enforcement, does someone like that get nervous in that way?
01:55:30.000Since he has been taken into custody, he has not confessed and will not cooperate with law enforcement.
01:55:38.000This is another story, believed from the New York Post.
01:55:41.000It says, quote, Charlie Kirk's alleged killer is, quote, not cooperating with authorities and has not confessed to carrying out the shooting, according to Utah's governor.
01:55:53.000The governor said among those cooperating with authorities was Robinson's roommate, who is also his boyfriend.
01:56:00.000He said the partner, Lance Twiggs, was transitioning from male to female.
01:56:05.000When asked by CNN, said that authorities do not yet know if that is relevant to the investigation.
01:56:10.000Cox added that the partner did not have any knowledge about the alleged shooting and has been incredibly cooperative and was working with investigators.
01:56:21.000So the killer comes home, mouths off to his Discord friends, confesses, turns himself in, and then shortly after turning himself in, does not confess to law enforcement and does not cooperate.
01:56:36.000So he apparently confessed to his friends in writing, confessed to his father, who turned him in with his cooperation, but now will not confess to law enforcement.
01:56:51.000So when did he change his mind and why?
01:56:54.000Why was he confessing in writing, which you have to know will be used against you?
01:57:01.000It's in writing, confess to his father, turn himself in voluntarily, although the initial story is that he was on suicide watch, contemplating suicide before he was turned in.
01:57:14.000Apparently, now they say he voluntarily gave himself up.
01:57:22.000And let's now talk a little bit about the motive.
01:57:25.000They say that inside this community where he allegedly confessed to all of his friends, they were horrified.
01:57:34.000He said that rather the sources say in the Washington Post that in this group chat or server where he confessed to the killing, they said that the other members of the group chat were expressing their horror at Charlie Kirk's death.
01:57:54.000There were quotes from other members that said he didn't deserve it.
02:00:50.000And it seems that if anybody knew where Charlie Kirk was going to be speaking, and if they scoped out the layout of the campus, it doesn't seem like this would be a difficult plot to put together and then to carry out.
02:02:47.000It couldn't be on the roof because it was in the wooded area.
02:02:51.000If it wasn't visible in the video of him leaving the roof, that means it was either planted in the woods or he was concealing it somehow by deconstructing it in pieces.
02:03:03.000But if he deconstructed it in pieces, that would have been a time consuming process that he probably couldn't have done in the allotted time.
02:03:15.000And even if he was somehow able to deconstruct a weapon on the roof, conceal it, jump off of the roof, the weapon was recovered after the fact in the woods, fully constructed.
02:03:27.000Which begs the question did he then reconstruct the rifle in the woods to discard to pick up later?
02:03:38.000The story would have to go something like this.
02:03:41.000He concealed the rifle when he walked up, put it together, took it apart, jumped off the roof, put it back together, placed it in the woods, and then ran away.
02:03:51.000But this would be too time consuming, would require maybe more equipment than he had, which was a screwdriver and nothing else, and wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
02:04:01.000With that being said, if you look closely at the video of him jumping off of the roof, it is a grainy video.
02:04:42.000But this is some of the evidence that people like Michael Savage and others are using to say that maybe he was not the gunman or not the only gunman, or that maybe evidence was planted.
02:04:55.000That's been the subject of a lot of scrutiny.
02:05:42.000A homicide of a high profile stranger, a political figure in cold blood from a Mormon, from a Mormon Reddit guy, who, according to his parents, had a 34 ACT score, which is very high percentile, 4.0 GPA, full ride scholarship to a local college.
02:06:06.000Family was allegedly conservative, although some say that that might not be the case.
02:06:13.000He had no criminal record, no history of murder or violence.
02:06:52.000There is all the difference in the world between a sloppy job, a sloppy passion of crime, where a nervous amateur, let's say, for the sake of argument, walks up to the microphone, draws a pistol, and takes a shot.
02:07:08.000Because when I was told that Charlie Kirk was shot at a question and answer session, that is the first image that came to my mind.
02:07:17.000Before I saw the video, before we became acquainted with the details, if someone told you, and you know what these events look like, if someone told you that someone took a shot at Charlie Kirk, what would you imagine?
02:07:31.000I would imagine that when entering or exiting, or when sitting stationary in the chair, someone would draw a short range weapon from a short distance and take a shot, like Luigi Mangione.
02:07:53.000All these things that we just talked about, all these details were premeditated.
02:07:59.000It's not just that you have a brilliant 22-year-old, maybe not brilliant, but a gifted 22-year-old with a high ACT score, a high GPA, a full ride scholarship, a person with no footprint, no record of transgressive behavior, of violence, of antisocial behavior, as far as we know, no mental illness, no digital footprint of political extremism.
02:08:27.000Not just why does this person wake up one day and take a shot, which might be explainable by impulsiveness or passion or youth, wake up, he's at my campus, reach for a gun, take a shot.
02:08:43.000He drove three and a half hours from his home.
02:08:47.000He cased the location, he cased it, he scoped it out.
02:08:53.000He looked at a map, he scoped out where Charlie would be on the campus.
02:09:12.000Now, maybe if you're a hunter, this sort of thing comes naturally, but I believe that hunting wildlife is different than killing a human being in a political assassination.
02:09:23.000So he premeditates this plot to drive three and a half hours, set up on a perch, take the shot, drive home.
02:09:33.000Why does a 22-year-old do such a thing?
02:09:39.000And the explanation is that he hated conservatives.
02:09:46.000He apparently had a transgender boyfriend, a male to female transsexual boyfriend that was living with him.
02:09:54.000And we've learned a little bit about the transsexual boyfriend whose name is Lance Twiggs, kind of a ridiculous name.
02:10:02.000And they say that Lance Twiggs was a similar-aged young white man, also from a Mormon background, who was kicked out of his household by his parent, by his parents when he came out as transgender and would not accept conversion therapy or reparative therapy or prayer from the Mormon church.
02:10:20.000and so circumstantially people say, well, he's left-wing, and He is dating a transsexual.
02:10:29.000Clearly, This was like dog day afternoon.
02:10:32.000He was motivated by his love for his transsexual boyfriend and the rhetorical violence being inflicted on the transgender community by conservatives like Trump and Charlie Kirk to take a shot.
02:10:51.000An eyewitness, a neighbor from down the street says that they were live-in roommates, they were partners, and what's more, that prior to the shooting, this is the most important detail as far as I'm concerned.
02:11:05.000There was a crowd at his house that showed up in cars with out-of-state license plates.
02:11:14.000And the neighbor said that these people gave him a bad vibe.
02:11:19.000And insinuated they were transgender, maybe radical leftists.
02:11:30.000Maybe this is a Discord tranny meetup.
02:11:33.000This is an extreme let's act like detectives.
02:11:37.000This is an extremely online young man.
02:11:40.000His classmates described him as a Reddit kid.
02:11:43.000His Facebook photos show that he was a gamer.
02:11:46.000He had thousands of hours in video games, spent time in online communities on Discord chatting with his friends while they played video games.
02:11:55.000Maybe he was gay, maybe he was queer himself.
02:13:42.000And isn't that the sort of thing that you would need to see?
02:13:45.000And Not just the least bit because you're bringing accomplices to justice, but also to create a deterrent against other people that might not say anything, that might not speak up when they witness a crime that might be forthcoming.
02:14:05.000So that's why I say we don't have all the information here yet.
02:14:09.000There are a lot of discrepancies, there are a lot of unanswered questions.
02:14:13.000Were there people with out-of-state license plates?
02:14:16.000Was that this neighbor's imagination or was that real?
02:14:22.000Certainly, if out-of-state people that do not belong in St. George, Utah, if they're showing up to this killer's house in the week before the shooting, they should all be persons of interest.
02:16:17.000The only evidence of an interior transformation on the part of the killer is testimony about a family dinner, where allegedly Charlie Kirk's forthcoming college visit was discussed, and liberal opinions were expressed at the dinner table.
02:17:09.000But two, the person that shot Trump in the head in the pursuit of political extremism had no digital footprint, no political digital footprint.
02:17:21.000The person that shot Charlie Kirk in the neck and killed him.
02:17:24.000Also, zero digital footprint other than a Steam collection.
02:17:33.000Now, there is a plausible explanation for this.
02:17:38.000And other people have pointed this out, and I don't think this is inappropriate to say.
02:17:45.000When you look at this person's face, and when you hear the testimony from people that knew him, he strikes me as a as an autistic loser, basically.
02:17:58.000He had thousands of hours logged on video games.
02:18:02.000He's got a Facebook picture from when he was in grade school receiving computer accessories for Christmas, playing on the computer.
02:18:16.000And being an extremely online Zoomer, I can tell you, and I you, if you're a Zoomer, you know what I'm talking about.
02:18:24.000There is a species of extremely online Zoomer that actually is discreet.
02:18:31.000There are gamers, there are autistic gamers out there that are not good looking, that are not sociable, and they're obsessed with politics and they're obsessed with video games.
02:18:46.000And they do only have a Discord, let's say.
02:18:49.000They don't actually have an Instagram.
02:18:51.000They don't have a Facebook, they don't have a Twitter account.
02:19:24.000That is I happen to know being on the right-wing side of things, there is a species of autistic Anti or asocial Zoomers that do not maintain a lot of public facing social media.
02:20:07.000According to Steven Crowder, who apparently has a pipeline to the intelligence community, the mug club knows Al Qaeda's next move for some reason.
02:20:17.000They know everything that the NSA knows.
02:20:20.000According to Steven Crowder, who's been vindicated on these things before, he was involved in communist groups in Utah.
02:20:29.000Communist far left servers on Discord.
02:20:33.000And that has also been seconded without much detail from law enforcement.
02:20:40.000Now, this is the portrait of the killer.
02:20:42.000last piece of evidence to me, which is maybe the most damning about the killer is this.
02:20:47.000We have all seen that there were multiple people who were local that seemed to have had advanced knowledge of the attack.
02:20:58.000There were not just a few people who on X and on TikTok seem to have telegraphed the attack in advance.
02:21:11.000And there were multiple posts from different users, users that were connected in one way or another to the killer that said, if Charlie Kirk shows up, he will be liquidated.
02:22:11.000They felt remorse, put out their alibi.
02:22:14.000He drove home, got nervous, opened up his big fat mouth, went and turned himself in, and then heard they were talking about the death penalty, maybe talked to a public defender.
02:22:49.000Why did they say that there were no messages?
02:22:52.000Is it because they were being weasley and the attack was not coordinated on Discord, even though clearly the killer was talking about it on Discord?
02:23:56.000Otherwise, we cannot take any of it for granted.
02:23:59.000With That being said, I do believe that is probably the most plausible explanation.
02:24:06.000I'm a rational person, and like I said, looking at the layout of a campus, unfortunately, when you realize that security is not always competent, these are things that sometimes do happen.
02:24:33.000The same day as the shooting against Charlie Kirk, there was a school shooting in Denver by a 16-year-old white male who was obsessed with Columbine.
02:24:42.000And that had nothing to do with Israel, and that had to the extent that we know that had no geopolitical ramifications.
02:24:51.000And that was on the heels of a transsexual that shot up a Catholic church in Minnesota last week, and a black fellow that shot up people in Tennessee in January, and a tranny that shot up a Catholic school in Wisconsin a few months before that.
02:25:10.000There is clearly a problem, as everyone has admitted of these communities on the internet, young people that are spending way too much time on them, carrying out acts of violence in the name of various ideologies, irony, nihilism.
02:25:50.000and I will explain in rigorous detail why.
02:25:53.000When we implicate Israel, or I should say, when Israel implicates itself in various conspiracies, there's usually a reason why.
02:26:06.000I believe fully that Israel was involved and the organized Jewish community was involved in many of the great conspiracies of the past 200 years.
02:26:19.000And I could tell you in one sentence why.
02:26:24.000I don't look at a crisis or a tragedy and assume that Israel did it.
02:26:29.000Contrary to what people like Ben Shapiro say, that I trip on my shoelaces and blame the Jews, I don't rush to judgment and think that Israel is behind every crisis or every disaster or anything.
02:26:44.000I do believe that Israel was involved in JFK's assassination.
02:27:50.000Because a 9-1-1 call was placed, and according to FOIA requests, at least four but up to six Israeli intelligence operatives were arrested, filming the towers collapsing in free fall, apparently with prior knowledge of the attack, and later in the day, urban moving systems was apprehended by police with explosives in their van and they were released without any incident.
02:28:21.000When we look at just a survey of the biggest conspiracies of the past 70 years, these are just three.
02:28:40.000And we survey the evidence, and if we can find a motive, and if we can find a connection, then we can plausibly create a conjecture or postulate that Israel might be involved.
02:32:45.000To confront him in a debate on this issue in particular.
02:32:49.000That was my grievance with Charlie Kirk.
02:32:53.000And for years, my perception of him, and this was also the reality, is that Although I believe his heart was in the right place, and I think that he was the defender of the truth on some other issues, or came to be a defender of the truth on other issues, I do believe that he was complicit in the Israeli capture of the right wing for a very long time.
02:33:23.000And that is unfortunately just the truth.
02:33:27.000And as much as we can grieve, and as much as we can mourn, and we can say that obviously he did not deserve what happened to him, we cannot fall into the trap of creating a mythology that does not reflect reality.
02:33:41.000It is true that for year after year, Turning Point USA grew and grew with sponsorship from Israeli pro-Israel Jewish Zionist donors.
02:33:56.000And they did this because Turning Point USA was an extremely pro-Israel organization.
02:34:02.000And anybody that has ever been in Turning Point USA will tell you that same thing.
02:34:07.000They give you a box of stickers and buttons and posters, and many of them say things like socialism sucks and enjoy capitalism.
02:34:24.000And as we all know, Turning Point USA was part of the conservative activist enterprise, which was funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars by Jewish donors to indoctrinate young American conservatives with a pro-Israel ideology, alongside Prager University, alongside Daily Wire, alongside many other similar projects.
02:34:51.000That's the pretext under which it was founded with Foster Fries' money.
02:34:56.000And that's how it was right up until last week and to today.
02:35:02.000So this is why I say I find it very unconvincing and very unlikely that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
02:35:11.000And the reason why I find it almost ridiculous is as I said, because for the past six years, that has actually been the cleavage issue.
02:35:22.000That has been the subject that I have fought Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA on for the better part of my career for nearly a decade.
02:35:35.000That is why I was not permitted into his events.
02:37:10.000So the question is, why does everybody believe that Israel was implicated last week?
02:37:18.000Well, there is a narrative that has been promulgated that Charlie Kirk was on the verge of a great conversion.
02:37:27.000The narrative is in light of The record of history and where Charlie Kirk was in his journey.
02:37:35.000The argument goes that this year, recently, in response to recent developments, like the turning of Candace Owens, the turning of Tucker Carlson, the genocide in Gaza, and the beating of the war drums in Iran, that Charlie Kirk was undergoing a change of heart.
02:37:56.000And that there was an interior and a private struggle, that Charlie Kirk was changing his mind.
02:38:04.000And as a result, he was chafing with his Jewish donors.
02:38:21.000And so the story goes, like many of us, we are all in a different place in our journey.
02:38:28.000And some have awakened later than others.
02:38:32.000Charlie Kirk, like anybody, was discovering the truth.
02:38:36.000And he was having a faith awakening, maybe converting to Catholicism, recognizing the tension between religious Judaism and Christianity, or the brutality in Gaza with the tenets of the gospel.
02:38:49.000And also an ideological conversion, realizing that an Israeli capture of American foreign policy is in complete contravention of an America first foreign policy, which he advocates for.
02:39:04.000and so the story goes Charlie Kirk was changing his mind on these issues he was expressing it privately he was telegraphing or signaling that the ship would be righted and that he was beginning to resist the most zealous fanatical demanding Israel first donors and the prospect of someone so powerful like Charlie Kirk particularly among the young
02:39:34.000right-wing conservatives of America it was too much of a risk for Israel to tolerate so they took him out before
02:39:47.000he could leave the pro-Israel plantation and take all the young conservatives with him the story goes that they eliminated him and perhaps set up somebody like Ben Shapiro to take his place so that when the false flag occurs and it will you hope it doesn't but it looks likely when
02:40:12.000When the call for a war in Iran becomes deafening, they will have someone reliable, someone predictable, someone that they have certainty.
02:40:42.000There is a video from October 2023, two years ago, where Charlie Kirk takes out his frustration at secular Jewish donors that support left-wing causes like mass immigration and social liberal causes.
02:40:58.000And then they expect that young white conservatives will turn around and support the Zionist cause.
02:41:08.000There are other clips like a recent interview with Meghan Kelly in August, where Charlie Kirk is clearly frustrated, visibly frustrated and perturbed at how he has been a defender of Israel, considers himself still a defender of Israel,
02:41:26.000and yet there is a powerful chorus of stakeholders, leaders in the pro-Israel movement who are not just disagreeing with him, but viciously attacking him and impugning his motivations, calling him an anti-Semite.
02:41:41.000In other words, Charlie Kirk is saying, is it not good enough that I'm an ally?
02:41:47.000I'm listening, I've supported you for years.
02:41:50.000Not only is it not good enough, but now you attack me.
02:41:58.000What do you expect this relationship Is supposed to be.
02:42:02.000And so Charlie Kirk seems to be in a moment of candor, venting his very real frustrations.
02:42:10.000And you can only imagine Charlie Kirk is a young, extremely powerful, ambitious guy.
02:42:17.000And for better or for worse, he is an American.
02:42:21.000Born and raised in Arlington Heights in the suburbs of Chicago, is a Protestant Christian.
02:42:27.000And while he might have cut deals or made compromises or went with the program before, now that this Israeli agenda is truly coming into conflict with what it means to be an American and a Christian.
02:42:42.000Now he starts to buck the expectations of his foreign patrons or handlers.
02:42:53.000There's a little bit of he seems to be emboldened.
02:42:58.000If you're a young, powerful guy, you don't want to take orders from people.
02:43:01.000If you're Charlie Kirk and you're 31, and you got the world on a string, you're the bagman for the GOP, you run with the president, you travel the world, you run the conservative movement.
02:44:35.000He was venting that he did not like what the Israelis were pushing.
02:44:42.000And he did not feel like the Israelis had the authority to push him.
02:44:48.000So there was this quiet rebellion that was happening, maybe inside of his interior life.
02:44:55.000Maybe he was having private conversations with his friends like Steve Bannon and Cannis Owens and Dave Smith and others who have intimated that there were similar conversations like this, and that this was starting to express itself outwardly in these media appearances.
02:45:11.000What's more, famously at his SAS student leadership conference in the summer this year, he hosted a debate on Israel between one of the Israeli Zionist propagandists, Josh Hammer from Newsweek, and Dave Smith, who was calling Israel warmongering genocidal maniacs at a turning point conference.
02:45:58.000Max Blumenthal, a Jewish leftist at the Gray Zone, has reported that private sources, anonymous sources, allegedly friends of Charlie Kirk have come forward since his death.
02:46:12.000And they say that Charlie Kirk was becoming afraid.
02:46:17.000He did disagree with the Israel lobby on the Iran policy, on the Gaza policy.
02:46:24.000He wanted to go against the program, but he was afraid.
02:46:37.000They talk about a meeting in August where Bill Ackman, a billionaire Jewish donor who is connected to Israel and Jeffrey Epstein, he's a member of the government.
02:46:47.000They say that Bill Ackman effectively gave him an ultimatum.
02:46:52.000This is how this is being characterized.
02:46:56.000But Candace Owens and Max Blumenthal have characterized this meeting based on conversations they had with him and other attendees of the meeting.
02:47:06.000Then in early August, Charlie Kirk met with Bill Ackman, a Jewish billionaire, and others, like Seth Dillon of the Babylon B, Josh Hammer, and they staged what they characterize as an intervention, where they berated Charlie Kirk for his resistance to the pro-Israel agenda.
02:47:28.000And they say that Charlie Kirk felt as though he might be blackmailed in the future.
02:47:36.000And so there is this narrative that Charlie Kirk, although we know him as in the pocket for Israel, he was clearly a willing and complicit client of the Israel lobby for his entire career.
02:47:50.000They say that, like all of us, based on recent developments, which are a true inflection point in America and Israel's relationship, that he, like everybody, was starting to get sick of the Israeli capture and Israeli influence over our government.
02:48:07.000Did not agree that we should go to war with Iran, did not agree that children should be genocided in Gaza, and was getting sick of defending it.
02:48:44.000And this is a story from the gray zone.
02:48:47.000I will read the important parts of it to you.
02:48:49.000This is what they characterize as the moment when Charlie Kirk was intimidated.
02:48:55.000It says, quote, the gray zone has spoken to five people with intimate knowledge of Charlie Kirk's meeting with Bill Ackman, which was held in early August.
02:49:04.000According to one source, Kirk was left upset after the gathering turned into an intervention where he was hammered for his increasingly skeptical views on the U.S. relationship with Israel and for platforming prominent conservative critics of Israel at his turning point events.
02:49:21.000Since publishing the report, the gray zone has learned from one attendee of the Hamptons event that Ackman convened the influencers under the auspices of a discussion about Zoran Mamdani and the supposed threat that he posed to the West if elected mayor of New York.
02:49:36.000But the meeting went off the rails when Ackman personally confronted Kirk about his views on Israel.
02:49:41.000An unknown British woman joined in the argument and began screaming at Kirk, according to the attendee.
02:49:48.000When his host presented him with a detailed list of every offense he supposedly committed against Israel, Kirk was horrified, said one attendee.
02:49:58.000Ackman also allegedly demanded that Kirk rescind his invitation for Tucker Carlson to speak at the upcoming America Fest 2025 in December.
02:50:07.000The Gray Zone reported on September 12th, citing a longtime associate of Kirk that Netanyahu had offered to organize a massive infusion of pro-Israel money into Turning Point, and that Kirk refused.
02:50:21.000Another longtime friend of Kirk has told the gray zone that the conservative activist also rejected an offer Netanyahu delivered two weeks before his death to meet with him in Jerusalem.
02:50:31.000Kirk, according to one person with inside knowledge of the meeting with Ackman, said he left feeling as though he'd been subjected to blackmail.
02:50:39.000In a series of text messages, Ackman described these, his account of the meeting with Kirk as totally false.
02:50:47.000He pledged to release a public statement, providing his own account of the event, but refused to clarify any further details.
02:50:54.000He said, I can easily put this to bed.
02:50:56.000I have receipts, but he did not abide when asked to provide the receipts to the reporters.
02:51:02.000And So this is some of the substantiating evidence.
02:51:07.000They say, and these are really the two big things.
02:51:57.000Charlie Kirk has in the past criticized BB Netanyahu.
02:52:02.000He has criticized secular left-wing Jewry in America.
02:52:06.000He has criticized a war with Iran, the famine in Gaza.
02:52:11.000He has never opposed Israel in itself.
02:52:15.000He has never explicitly opposed Israel.
02:52:19.000Israel offered him 150 million dollars to be more pro-Israel than they already were, to be harder in their support for Israel, and in particular to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.
02:52:51.000Four people that I trust that are in the know.
02:52:55.000So this is coming from Candace Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk.
02:52:59.000This is coming from Max Blumenthal, who purports to have a source.
02:53:03.000And I have heard from a handful of people, independently of those sources, that this offer was real and that Kirk turned down the money.
02:53:15.000After Charlie Kirk turned down the money, Netanyahu asked if he would come visit Jerusalem and give him the re-education tour, the Holocaust Museum, the burned babies, the beheaded babies, the one that Elon Musk took, the one that our speaker of the house took.
02:53:33.000Anyone that's ever criticized Israel has been subjected to.
02:53:48.000Two, they say Bill Ackman, the Jewish pro-Israel billionaire, hosted this event at his house in the Hamptons, where they staged an intervention.
02:54:01.000And he, along with other pro-Israel mouthpieces, pro-Israel traitors and shills, berated and screamed at him for not supporting Israel enough.
02:54:12.000And whatever they say about it, whatever other people say about it, Charlie Kirk's friends intimate that he felt scared.
02:54:23.000He felt as though he was being intimidated and blackmailed potentially.
02:54:30.000So he can't tell us what really went down.
02:54:33.000All we know is what the people who berated him allegedly felt about it, but we don't know his perspective.
02:54:40.000Now, since this report has been published, Bill Ackman has responded on Twitter, and I'll read his response in full because we have to rigorously analyze all the facts.
02:55:11.000Charlie explained to me that young conservatives were getting tired of defending Israel, and this was very concerning.
02:55:17.000He suggested it might be useful to convene a group of young conservative influencers on a host of topics that could include Israel to get a better sense of how the community was thinking about Israel and other relevant issues.
02:55:30.000He suggested that recruiting a group of junior Charlie Kirks who could host open mic sessions on college campuses could be an effective way to encourage debate.
02:55:40.000We thereafter scheduled a series of conference calls and Zooms with Charlie, Turning Point, and members of my team in an effort to assemble a diverse group of influencers so that we could convene for a day and a half session.
02:55:58.000And Charlie and members of my team worked to put together an invitation list.
02:56:02.000I offered to host the sessions in Bridgehampton and cover the costs so that I could attend some of the sessions.
02:56:09.000Charlie sent out the invitations and about 35 or so influencers accepted.
02:56:13.000Charlie estimated that the influencers who attended collectively had more than 100 million followers.
02:56:19.000Charlie and Turning Point put together the agenda for the meeting.
02:56:22.000Charlie asked me to moderate the economic future discussion, which I did, and I thereafter hosted a QA session with the participants.
02:56:31.000The discussion of the convergence of East and West included a discussion of immigration value systems, the U.S. approach to foreign policy in Israel.
02:56:41.000I had a board meeting that conflicted with that session.
02:56:44.000Those who attended that session said that the Israel discussion was similar to the others, with attendees expressing varying points of view as well as explaining the views of their followers.
02:56:54.000Some were critical of Israel and others were supportive.
02:56:57.000The sessions were punctuated by meals.
02:56:59.000I attended one group lunch and a dinner where I sat with Charlie and others.
02:57:04.000At the end of the event, I sat with Charlie and members of my team and we discussed the events of the convening.
02:57:09.000Charlie believed he had identified a number of potential turning point ambassadors who could launch open mic events on campus, and that he would follow up with them.
02:57:18.000We agreed to keep in touch thereafter.
02:57:20.000We corresponded by text over the next few weeks on a range of topics, not including Israel, and the next thing I knew, he was gone.
02:57:28.000In short, this was not an intervention to blackmail Charlie Kirk.
02:57:33.000Candace replied and said, Candace Owens.
02:57:37.000She said, I was clear, Charlie felt blackmailed by the offer to fund Turning Point, which he refused.
02:57:44.000Not that you, Bill Ackman, blackmailed Charlie Kirk.
02:57:48.000She said people in attendance described it as an intervention.
02:57:52.000Josh Hammer and Seth Dylan were disappointed that Charlie was frustrated with BB Netanyahu and what would happen if he publicly criticized him.
02:58:00.000Nothing else in your response disputes that Charlie was pressed by you and others about his viewpoints on Israel and about Tucker or BB's phone call.
02:58:09.000As a follow-up, do you know anything about the alleged 150 million dollars BB offered for an anti-Tucker campaign?
02:58:17.000Now, Candace's response, if you've been following this, let's just piece it together quickly.
02:58:25.000So Blumenthal and Candace are claiming that Bill Ackman corners Charlie Kirk in an intervention at his house in August for a struggle session.
02:58:38.000And there people are screaming at Charlie Kirk, and Charlie Kirk is there's this climate of fear.
02:58:45.000And what is intimated is that there is some menacing here.
02:58:49.000The message is you better get in line.
03:02:47.000She didn't dispute any of those details.
03:02:49.000So she's effectively conceding that yes, Bill Ackman gave an accurate account.
03:02:54.000And that just sounds like a regular run-of-the-mill fundraiser.
03:02:58.000That sounds like a regular one-of-the-mill political get together, where tactical and ideological disagreements are discussed, but it's overall cordial.
03:03:55.000Blumenthal and Candace, unless, unless they produce receipts, unless they produce evidence to the contrary, it seems like they mischaracterized that meaning entirely.
03:05:05.000There's Netanyahu offering 150 million dollars to buy them out.
03:05:10.000And then there's this seemingly innocuous meeting.
03:05:14.000Now, why didn't you lead with the phone call?
03:05:18.000If the if the big evidence is that Netanyahu made this offer and the meeting was really secondary or ancillary or not what it's cracked up to be, why'd you even bring that up?
03:07:24.000They will enter the pipeline in the State Department, in the top positions, in the elite fields in our country, in finance, in law, in media, and they will not be sympathetic to Israel.
03:07:36.000And when that happens, Israel will lose its most important patron.
03:07:42.000So that spells a big problem for them.
03:07:44.000Because what you need to understand about Israel and our special relationship, if you understand nothing else, is this.
03:07:51.000Much has been said about our special relationship, our closest ally, and how conspicuous this is and how unique it is, for better or for worse.
03:08:04.000But what you need to understand, if nothing else, is that America is indispensable to Israel.
03:08:26.000It has been this way from the beginning.
03:08:31.000Israel could not have been settled, founded, defended, maintained, would not have survived without unconditional, constant, overwhelming support from America for over a hundred years.
03:08:47.000Now, people say Israel was declared in 1948.
03:08:58.000Without the American Jewish community supporting the Zionist project, even in the first half of the 20th century, there would be no Israeli state.
03:09:07.000It has been like this from the beginning.
03:09:15.000Because when Israel was fighting its Arab neighbors, America was legally and illegally providing the conventional weapons, the nuclear weapons.
03:09:26.000When Israel was faced with foes like Saddam Hussein and Bashar al-Assad and Mohar Gaddafi, the United States was fighting the wars Israel could not win.
03:09:37.000When the international community began to turn against Israel and its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, the United States vetoed the Security Council resolutions condemning it.
03:09:51.000The United States is indispensable for Israel's survival.
03:09:56.000And have you ever noticed that that is the lingo that they use?
03:10:06.000It has a right to exist, it has a right to defend itself.
03:10:11.000Well, if America's indispensable to Israel's existence and Israel's self-defense, then that means that Israel is entitled to American support.
03:10:28.000If Israel has a right to exist, but its existence is contingent on American support, then that means that Israel has a right to American support.
03:10:40.000If Israel's self-defense is absolutely contingent on American support, then it has a right to American support.
03:10:50.000And what kind of system do we have in America?
03:10:54.000An open society, a democracy, a liberal society, some might say an oligarchy, a capitalist society.
03:11:04.000For Israel to secure this existential support, this indispensable support from America, they must secure influence over America's system, over its democracy, over its government, over its society.
03:11:27.000It must regulate broadcasting and dissemination of information.
03:11:35.000Because as long as people vote, and as long as candidates are staged for the political parties, then Americans, American citizens still have some sovereignty and some say in what the government does.
03:11:49.000So it's not enough that the Israelis penetrate our government and Wall Street and other things.
03:11:55.000They must penetrate the media and regulate the medium.
03:12:02.000The medium of the dissemination of information.
03:12:08.000They must control the broadcasting of information.
03:12:11.000How do you control these elections, our open society, our democratic government?
03:12:16.000By controlling the minds of the masses through the public square, through the centralized mass media, which was television, radio, and print, and is now social media.
03:12:30.000And if Israel has a right to exist and its existence is contingent on support from America, then they see it as their right to control and influence and manipulate our system.
03:12:44.000Understand that logical progression and think about these questions of survival.
03:13:42.000And for 2,000 years, they were forced to dwell in exile, being chased from one kingdom to another, facing inquisitions, segregation, facing cruelty, discrimination, prejudice, hatred, pogroms, massacres, the Holocaust.
03:14:05.000So they founded Israel, a place where they can finally be safe, where they would never live in fear of extermination, being at the mercy of a hostile totalitarian regime, where they could exist, where they could thrive.
03:14:50.000They see themselves as the vanguard of God of God's law of God's law given to Moses in the Torah, in the oral tradition, in the mystic tradition, they see themselves as the vanguard of God, of God's word, of God's law.
03:15:13.000They see themselves as repairing the world, putting the shards containing God together to save the world.
03:15:23.000And their story is of slavery at the hands, at the hands of the Egyptians, captivity at the hands of the Babylonians, persecutions, pogrims, genocide.
03:15:36.000When they say we have a right to exist, we have a right to defend ourselves, that's a battle cry.
03:15:48.000We feel entitled, we have a right to anything.
03:15:52.000And you think a couple of Europeans are gonna stand in our way?
03:15:56.000You think some punk from Arlington Heights, you think some Spanish government, some Irish government, you think the Western Europeans, you think American conservatives, you think skinhead, trailer trash, Nazis, whatever they say about us, you think they're gonna stand in the way of us?
03:16:16.000We take what we want, we say what will help us, we kill who opposes us.
03:16:23.000When they say they have a right to exist, they're saying we have a right to control American society to secure our existence.
03:16:32.000Now, if the youth are being lost, this poses an existential problem to Israel.
03:16:44.000And if in particular the youth in the right wing of America becomes indifferent to Israel, then they are truly alone.
03:16:54.000They have lost China, Russia, the whole Muslim world, Europe, Africa, Latin America.
03:17:33.000Do you think that's why Netanyahu offered Charlie Kirk a hundred and fifty million dollars to support Israel?
03:17:41.000Do you think that's why it mattered to them so much?
03:17:44.000Netanyahu was going to open the floodgates according to these reports and unleash a hundred and fifty million dollars of Israel-controlled money that would probably come from America.
03:17:58.000It wouldn't come from the Israeli treasury.
03:18:02.000It wouldn't come from their finance ministry.
03:18:05.000Netanyahu would order it, and it would be Jewish American billionaires that actually dispense the cash.
03:20:22.000Do you know that he is friends with Larry Fink, the head of BlackRock, the largest asset manager in the world, managing 10 trillion dollars in assets?
03:20:32.000Do you know that Larry Fink is going to run the World Economic Forum in the stead of Klaus Schwab, who's retiring after a Me Too scandal?
03:20:45.000Do you know that Bill Ackman got the president of Harvard University fired because there was an anti-Israel protest on the Harvard campus?
03:20:56.000Do you know that Bill Ackman's wife is Israeli?
03:22:24.000After Netanyahu offered to give him all this money and he refused, Bill Ackman hosted a event at his home where Israeli mouthpieces like Seth Dillon, a Jew, and Josh Hammer, a Jew, Israeli mouthpiece working for Ben Shapiro in a previous job listing, and Charlie Kirk refused to listen.
03:23:14.000And just who do you think that one million dollars will be paid out to?
03:23:20.000It looks like it will be paid out to the alleged killer's father.
03:23:27.000Tyler Robinson was allegedly turned into law enforcement by his father.
03:23:35.000His Mormon father, the Mormon father who turned in his gay son dating a tranny who killed Charlie Kirk is going to get a one million dollar payout from Bill Ackman.
03:23:51.000The man who, according to Friends of Charlie Kirk, menaced him for not taking Netanyahu's money and supporting Israel's war in Iran.
03:24:04.000Do you think Bill Ackman is just generous?
03:24:12.000Put another way, the Jewish billionaire that allegedly threatened Charlie Kirk, the Jewish billionaire married to an Israeli who took money from Jeffrey Epstein, who is, by all credible observations, working on behalf of Israel in some context.
03:24:33.000The guy that apparently menaced Charlie Kirk is the same guy who will pay a man a million dollars for turning in his gay son, implicating him in the murder of Charlie Kirk.
03:24:47.000Anyone find that a little bit suspicious?
03:24:51.000This is a tweet, a real tweet that Bill Ackman put out last week.
03:24:55.000He said, quote, a number of people have reached out and or posted expressing concern that Tyler Robinson's father may collect a 1.2 million dollar reward for turning in his son, which inspires a few thoughts.
03:25:10.000First, in order for rewards to be effective in finding criminals, the rewards need to be paid, even if the recipient is a crook or worse.
03:25:18.000That said, in this case, if the father is found to have been involved or otherwise acted negligently in contributing to Charlie's death, civil litigation or criminal prosecution will reverse unjust compensation.
03:25:31.000I've also seen reports that suggest Tyler's family intends to waive its right to any reward.
03:25:37.000So yes, we will pay the reward if it is earned to whomever the FBI indicates provided the information that led to Tyler's arrest.
03:25:49.000That might be the connection that slipped everybody's attention.
03:25:54.000So Bill Ackman allegedly menaced Charlie Kirk over Israel.
03:26:00.000Now Bill Ackman is paying a million dollars to a Mormon man turning in his gay son dating a tranny, implicating him in the killing of Charlie Kirk.
03:26:13.000I see a bit of a conflict of interest there.
03:26:16.000Now, with that being said, I'm not running with that.
03:30:43.000And by the way, I am sick and tired of seeing the worst governor in America, Governor Cox from Utah, this pro-trans left-wing anti-Trump scumbag, constantly jumping in front of the cameras and giving campaign speeches.
03:32:39.000The cracker barrel logo, the Department of War, the Gulf of America.
03:32:46.000And honestly, I was, and I'm not just trying to um politicize this, but I was genuinely disturbed by Trump's reaction to Charlie Kirk's death.
03:34:50.000I want to know that the enemies of society are going to be investigated and brought to justice, whoever they are.
03:34:59.000And not the least bit for politics, you'd think at the minimum, because this is a friend of the president, but I guess even that means nothing.
03:36:03.000And I'm going to say this respectfully to people like Matt Walsh, who extended an olive branch, it seems.
03:36:10.000I'm going to say this respectfully because I've heard Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles and their ilk, I've heard them say this, and I'm going to assume that maybe they don't know better, and I'll be respectful how I say this.
03:36:24.000You may not take an interest in Israel, but Israel takes an interest in you.
03:36:33.000Israel takes an interest in you and you and every American, as long as we have a voice in America, as long as we have a vote in America, as long as we Americans have a say over our lives and our society and our government and what it does with its money and its military,
03:36:55.000and as long as that is indispensable to helping this country evade accountability for its actions, they will take an interest in you and your family and what you have to say and how you vote and even what you think.
03:37:11.000So you may not care that much about Israel, and you may think that's one issue among others, and that doesn't matter, and we need to just get off that subject and talk about domestic issues, but they don't see it that way.
03:37:24.000They take an interest in you, and you must realize our country is besieged on all sides by foreign intelligence and manipulation.
03:37:35.000And in some ways, that's the only issue there is that's politics.
03:37:50.000Think about what a sick fucking joke that is.
03:37:53.000You have Charlie Kirk, a moderate Christian conservative, and some enraged tranny with Mormon parents gunning one another down, and it's not one another, but you understand.
03:38:07.000Meanwhile, the Senate voted not to release the Epstein files.
03:38:12.000Meanwhile, Congress gave another 650 million to Israel.
03:38:16.000Meanwhile, Israel bombed cutter and is gearing up, the tanks are rolling through Gaza City, and they're getting ready for a war with Iran.
03:38:23.000So congratulations, you fucking idiot leftists.
03:38:27.000Congratulations, you stupid fucking faggots.
03:38:31.000And I say that somewhat affectionately.
03:38:35.000Congratulations, LGBT leftists or whatever.
03:39:26.000I really made a concerted effort to speak in a language that liberals might understand.
03:39:31.000I tried to demonstrate my objectivity.
03:39:34.000I tried to bring liberals into the fold.
03:39:36.000I tried to appeal to their animosity, their legitimate criticisms of Trump, their legitimate animosity towards Israel.
03:39:45.000I leaned out of the culture war intentionally when a tranny shot up the school in Minneapolis, because it was the truth, but also out of sensitivity.
03:39:55.000I said, let's not blame the left or trannies.
03:39:58.000Let's look at this as nihilism because I genuinely feel that's what it is.
03:40:58.000They're waiting, begging for an excuse to whip up the far right into a frenzy and to create a mandate to bring the government down on the far left.
03:41:10.000And you just gave them what they wanted.
03:41:12.000And instead, like your uncle, Jank, instead, like your uncle of recognizing that, you play right into their hands.
03:42:38.000And the right position is we can't have all these illegal immigrants here.
03:42:43.000We can't have black super predators stabbing people to death.
03:42:46.000We can't have left-wing nut jobs burning vigils of Charlie Kirk and wanting to murder conservatives, and we can't have Israel running our country.
03:42:57.000And that's an agenda I think people can get behind if we can just put forward a candidate, a party, a movement that says all the above.
03:43:05.000And I'm willing to compromise on other things, but that needs to be the ticket.
03:43:13.000You want this country to be stable, we need borders.
03:43:17.000You want this country to be affordable and economical, we need fucking law enforcement.
03:43:22.000You want the country to stay together, we can't have political violence like this.
03:43:27.000We can't have radicals egging on and glorifying terrorism, obviously.
03:43:33.000And if we want to be a nation, if we want independence, we have to stand up to Israel and resist the division that they don't create, but which they exacerbate.
03:43:46.000And the only way to overcome that, I'll reiterate my call last week.
03:43:50.000We must be not just innocent, not just merciful, not just forgiving, benevolent, magnanimous, charitable, not just those things, but we must be those things.
03:44:03.000We must also be wise, clever, cunning, smart.
03:44:48.000And the consensus needs to be against them both.
03:44:51.000It needs to be against these sicko freak nihilists that are okay seeing the country get invaded and people get murdered for no reason And people get shot for their opinions, and also against the people that are doing that same thing in Gaza.
03:45:07.000We need something like a Christian right wing and liberal fusion against the, you know, they they want to rata, they want to rally conservatives against the woke left and the Muslims.
03:46:35.000Let us pray for prudence and temperance and caution and to guard our path, to guide our path, watch our step so that we, you know, forget about one thing or another.
03:46:47.000We do not want to be unwitting instruments of the people that seek to oppress us.
03:48:35.000There's a I tend not to put too much stock in these private revelations because I feel like that's been going on since the beginning of time.
03:49:02.000I'm seeing such disgusting behavior on the left over this.
03:49:04.000I found out 30 minutes into my work day from a co-worker and went another co-worker of mine, some boomer lady heard Charlie supported Trump.
03:53:51.000So I implore you to pray, not just for me.
03:53:53.000I'm trying to be safe and I keep my wits about me, but uh all these people that are leading the charge, Ben Shapiro for that matter, all of them.
03:54:02.000Uh, because you know how it is out there.
03:59:29.000When the news broker girl in my comparative politics class started jumping up and down and said she was going to celebrate with a glass of wine.
03:59:32.000Everybody looked at her like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
03:59:34.000She had such a genuinely evil look on her face.
03:59:36.000That being said, it was heartwarning to see all the people in my college campus praying.
03:59:38.000It felt like what I imagined 9-11 felt like.
03:59:40.000Well, and you know, this is something that we all feel it so innately and intrinsically.
03:59:48.000You can call it vibes, you can call it um, you know, feelings or something.
03:59:54.000And some people mock this and say it's sentimentalism, but there's something to be said.
04:01:49.000We all know it's wrong not just to kill people, but even think about killing people with our words.
04:01:56.000Even think about how we degrade people, even think about how we attack people, how we mock people, how we try to make them small, how we try to destroy them.
04:04:47.000There's no sense of setting aside these material things and competitions and games for for the sake of a universal human experience.
04:04:57.000You know, on some level, not to sound like a hippie or whatever, but we are all in a world that we don't understand, living our lives for the first time on a journey that we're all learning about one day and one step at a time.
04:05:14.000And every now and again, in a moment of strife or crisis, or there's a moment of levity, you're reminded of some of these essential things that we all have in common, that we get afraid, that we get scared, that we're uncertain, that we're nervous, you know, we laugh at stupid things.
04:05:35.000And to the extent that you can connect with people on that level, I guess that's what warmth is.
04:05:42.000That's uh a true loving your neighbor.
04:05:45.000And the extent that you can't get that from these people, the more you become afraid of them and what they might be capable of.
04:05:53.000You know, this this lack the idea that they don't see you as human.
04:07:54.000They talk about this like, you know, masculine Christianity where, you know, Jesus is in the gym and punching trannies at the pride parade.
04:10:55.000I believe I might have the connection to your questioning a few weeks back regarding how the Jewish Federal Reserve affects us as the American society.
04:13:28.000Well, I try not to take myself too seriously, but I do recognize I have some responsibility now that uh I have a larger platform.
04:13:38.000And the rules of the game are different.
04:13:40.000When you are a smaller personality, it's not to say you shouldn't watch what you say, but the more people you influence, the more potent the ripple effect is.
04:15:07.000Maybe they do so far, and was one who appreciated a shift on Kirk.
04:15:09.000Not sure if I've listened back far enough.
04:15:11.000Are you someone who can acknowledge the Cause Area and Jews slash 13 bloodline families slash and banking mob that runs the world slash on everything slash massive megacore, etc.
04:15:49.000He's low-hanging fruit, he's nothing horseshoe theory optimists sent 100 dollars.
04:15:53.000I think there's a motive for a GOP slash tech rights slash fans conspiracy to take out Kirk because they needed a martyr with how terrible they've been doing this year.
04:15:57.000Weird advents left Tucker implied Kirk was scared of Israel on the show today.
04:16:00.000But of course you can't separate the GOP from Israel.
04:16:13.000The message of overwhelming love of Jesus and what makes us different from them and what makes good, what makes us on God's side was so powerful in exactly what I needed to hear in that moment.
04:16:18.000You embody the truth and love of Jesus Christ, and as much as I love your funny and bombastic takes, we need more of that love to save this country.
04:16:44.000I hope you realize that the country needs you to be better, to be more charitable, to be less mean-spirited, which you display perfectly in the last show.
04:16:48.000Don't be a pussy, but you should really consider a lot Charlie's followers will be watching you now.
04:16:51.000God bless you, Nick God's P. Well, I don't even know if I could help myself being less mean, but I'll try to be less mean.
04:17:16.000Plus Cash Patel firing the lead FBI special investigator two weeks before the murder of Kirk was weird, too, to add on to the GOP conspiracy.
04:18:05.000I thought that might have been a little bit in poor taste, but I don't think there was anything contained in the speech that I really um found all that significant.
04:18:14.000I mean, it's just heartbreaking, it's tragic.
04:18:15.000And you know, I saw this video of Charlie with his daughter, and this one, this one actually made me a little emotional.
04:20:03.000I mean, whether you agree with or disagree, I mean, obviously, and he didn't deserve to die anyway, but on some level, you might say, um, and I'm in no way rationalizing or justifying it, but on some level, you understand as a man, you go into the world and there's danger in the world.
04:20:21.000You know that Charlie Kirk understood the risks.
04:20:24.000And I'm sure that he would still go out there and do it again, knowing that he would meet his end.
04:20:31.000Because I believe he was a courageous guy.
04:20:35.000But she had nothing to do with any of it.
04:21:03.000Her whole life is colored by this tragedy in an instant.
04:21:06.000She won't she doesn't understand, but she will.
04:21:11.000That's when you have to take a step back and realize like anyone that would cheer for that is uh a fucking sick person, and they just have to be ostracized for that little girl, if for no other reason, for that little girl that is standing there on the street corner holding her dad's hand with her with her big coat, her doll.
04:23:22.000I love when I don't immediately come out and blame Israel and people's first thing is like, first of all, I'm I know it's real, but I'm not saying it.
04:23:32.000Like if I don't come out the day of and say Israel did it with no evidence.
04:25:28.000It's like, no, not everything is that.
04:25:34.000But that's because probably 70% of the population is not even capable of critical thinking?
04:25:41.000So it's sort of like, do you ever see that movie Silence with Liam Neeson?
04:25:47.000It's a Martin Scorsese movement and uh movie, and it's about Catholic missionaries bringing Christianity to Japan, and there's this young Christian priest, and he thinks that he's bringing the Japanese to Christ, but the Japanese government's punishing him and making and killing him or his followers.
04:26:06.000And in the end, he meets up with Liam Neeson, who surrendered to the government a long time ago, and he says these people don't even understand.
04:26:14.000When you're talking to them about the son of God, they think you're talking about the literal son, like you're not breaking through to them.
04:26:23.000It's like I think I have adherents and acolytes, they get it, they understand.
04:26:28.000And then something like this happens, and they're like, Israel did it, obviously.
04:26:32.000And if you disagree, you got the call.
04:26:34.000It's like, okay, or why would they kill their top guy?
04:26:38.000Like, did anyone stop and think that Charlie Kirk was arguably up until a few months ago their top guy?
04:26:47.000Is there even room for skepticism that they would kill someone that was so steadfastly supporting them?
04:26:54.000In other words, if you don't automatically assume that they killed him, even though it's sort of far-fetched on its face, oh well, that's because you're like a bad faith actor.
04:27:04.000Like, that's the part that I really hate.
04:30:44.000I have been in a really ignorance is bliss mentality and I want to get more into politics again any advice?
04:30:48.000was on the left a few years ago then the right now I guess I'm just America first my boyfriend who is also named Nick Loll showed me your content and we love ya stay safe out here hashtag women for Nick Loll Alright.
04:32:05.000And it really does feel like Joker without his Batman, not to be um what would be the word, not to be insensitive or something, but he was my rival.
04:32:16.000He was my opponent, and it's not right.
04:32:18.000I mean, I I wanted to face him in competition, not like this.
04:32:23.000So it is there is something sad about that.
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