Elon Musk has bought up all of the remaining shares of Twitter, and the company is in the midst of a legal battle with Jack Dorsey. Meanwhile, Virgin Galactic has announced that they will allow women to fly the Boeing 737-200 in the future, and a woman will be allowed to do so in the role of a flight attendant. We'll also hear about the latest in the Jordan Peterson vs. Jordan Peterson debate, and much, much more! Recorded in Los Angeles, CA! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. This episode was produced in Adelaide, Australia. We are working on transcribing some of our favorite episodes and putting them on a website. Please bear with us as we work out the kinks. If you like what you hear, please consider leaving us a five star review on Apple Podcasts and/or wherever else you re listening. We appreciate the support. Thank you so much for all your support! - Nicholas J. Fuentes, co-host of America First! America First, cohosted by Cozy Cozy, Cozy is a show about all things America First. Cozy and Cozy are two people who are dedicated to making the world better, bigger, better, and more connected than you could ever be. Thank you for listening and supporting us. - nicholas j.j.fuentes and cozier than you can do it. . - Thank you, Nicky, j. j.f@j.cozy.coz - thank you, thanks, thanks you're amazing, thank you're awesome, thanks for listening, and thank you for supporting us, you're beautiful, and we appreciate you, we really appreciate it, we love you, bye bye bye. xoxo, bye, bye. - nnn - j. & bye, - NICKY, bye - MURDERER, JUICY, RYANTHORO, JOSH, JAY & JAY, RABY, JOSEPH, JAVA, JORDAN MCCARTE, JEROME, JODY, JARED, JAMIE, J. MURCHLEY, AND KEVIN, JAMES, & KARIM, JONATHAN, JACOB AND JOSH MILLER
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00:03:44.000Big development in Elon Musk's Twitter purchase.
00:03:49.000We have now seen leaked text messages between Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk from March of this year, shortly before Elon Musk began buying up shares of Twitter.
00:04:02.000And what we've learned is that there is a discussion between the founder of Twitter and Elon Musk not just about buying Twitter and changing it, but about creating an alternative to Twitter, which would be a protocol or a program.
00:04:21.000And in other words, it would be the same function as Twitter, but without decentralization, without a company, without a board, without anybody controlling it.
00:04:32.000And I'm not a tech guy so I don't really even know how this stuff works.
00:04:40.000And it would be out there decentralized like Bitcoin or something.
00:04:45.000And people would be using that to post rather than the whole site being controlled by a company, being controlled by people, moderated by people.
00:04:55.000And Elon Musk said he was open to exploring both options.
00:05:00.000So we'll talk about that, what that might mean for all of us, and the ongoing lawsuit with Twitter.
00:05:06.000We'll also be talking about Virgin Galactic, the airline, which has now announced that they're going to allow the girl flight attendants to wear the boy's uniform, and the boy flight attendants to wear the girl's uniform.
00:05:22.000And they released a big promotional video and it was exactly the kind of thing you would expect.
00:05:28.000It was the usual suspects, blacks, trannies, gay men, lesbians, and cross-dressing.
00:05:37.000And the men wearing the skirts and the girls wearing the suits.
00:05:56.000You're gonna be led onto the plane by a man in lipstick wearing a skirt and then black people are gonna beat the shit out of each other in the seat in front of you.
00:06:08.000It's just like, it's a real recipe for success here.
00:06:12.000And then a woman flight attendant or a woman pilot
00:06:17.000I almost can't even come up with that construction.
00:08:23.000But Vladimir Putin is expected to give an address on Friday in Russia time to discuss the formal annexation and admission of the four territories into the Russian Federation.
00:08:43.000And that I got roasted for how I pronounced it, so I'm not going to pronounce it.
00:08:49.000It's the two Ukrainian territories in the south, and then the two Donbass regions, the two Donbass republics.
00:08:58.000And so all four will be formally accepted by treaty into the Russian Federation tomorrow, and Putin will be giving a speech about that.
00:09:06.000And I don't know what is going to be said, or how eventful it will be, but I'd like to cover that if I can, depending on the time.
00:10:15.000I feel like I just never have enough time.
00:10:17.000Right when I start to get acclimated, right when I start to get situated, I build up my following, I find all my friends, I follow everybody, I get in the groove, the tempo, the beat, I get in the zone, I get dialed in to post, and then it gets taken away.
00:10:51.000I'm in the, I'm dialed in, and then they yank it away from me, and then I gotta find it all over again, then I gotta, I gotta spin it back up, I gotta follow everybody, I gotta, cause you kinda gotta find your voice on Twitter.
00:11:05.000It's not, it's not like talking, or thinking, or posting on Telegram for that matter, or doing a show.
00:13:55.000Both tentative because I don't know what's going on, okay?
00:13:59.000I'm just getting schlepped around all over the place.
00:14:03.000Going to this wedding and I love when you're like, I love when you're not, you don't just have plans but it's like you're told you have plans by somebody else so you don't really know what the plan is.
00:16:17.000And I know it's cringe to say it like that, but it's that simple.
00:16:20.000But doesn't that tell you the whole story?
00:16:24.000Here I am, Catholic, reactionary, member of the culture war, pushing tradition, pushing Trump, right-wing politics, all this, capitalism, whatever, and I probably have 90% of my opinions I share with Jordan Peterson, or a lot of them, I don't know about 90%,
00:16:50.000He will not share a stage with me, would not be seen in a room with me, would not talk to me.
00:16:55.000But he'll talk to Stephen Bunnell, who he agrees with on nothing!
00:17:01.000Who's an atheist, a feminist, pro-trans, pro-Biden, pro-Ukraine, all the rest.
00:17:52.000Because what could you say are the issues that we disagree on?
00:17:56.000If he's against trans and LGBT and that's his big culture war issue, and if he's against feminism and he's pro-masculinism and pro-free speech and all this kind of stuff, what's the one thing?
00:18:14.000Well, he works for a company run by hardcore Jewish Zionists who don't live in Israel.
00:18:56.000But they'd rather talk to the people who they were going on tour saying were responsible for a hundred million dead because of their economic system.
00:19:05.000And those people are more human than the people saying, dancing Israelis, USS Liberty, those kinds of things.
00:19:17.000If they're not willing to share a stage with people saying those things, well, why not?
00:19:24.000Well certainly, because those things are just so far out there and so crazy, that's why they hold so much power, because they're so ridiculous and have no basis in reality.
00:19:48.000So we're gonna dive into the show here.
00:19:49.000Our first story is about this Virgin Airlines policy.
00:19:54.000They changed the policy now where the flight attendants can wear whatever uniform they want.
00:19:58.000I guess they have a red skirt suit for the women and a purple suit for the men.
00:20:05.000And so Virgin Airlines did this big British Virgin Atlantic, is specifically what it is.
00:20:13.000They changed the dress code so that the boys can wear the girls uniform, they can wear the red skirt suit, and the girls can wear the boys uniform, which is the purple suit.
00:20:23.000And it wasn't just enough that they announced the change, they put out this ridiculous ad where they have got, I guess it's some kind of TV star woman who's some kind of LGBT icon who's running the campaign, she's the face of it.
00:20:41.000And then with her you've got all these black and brown people, and you've got a non-binary person, and you've got a butch lesbian, and you've got the gay light-skinned black guy in the skirt, and all of that going on.
00:20:58.000And this is a story that says, quote, In a bid to become the most inclusive airline in the skies, British Virgin Atlantic scrapped rules on Wednesday requiring its staff to wear gender-specific uniforms.
00:21:11.000This means male personnel may now wear red skirt suits to work.
00:21:15.000The company, which is owned by billionaire Richard Branson, announced that it would update its gender identity policies to champion individuality, enabling its employees to wear clothing that expresses how they identify.
00:21:28.000According to the airline's press release, personnel are now free to choose any company-approved uniform, no matter their gender, gender identity, or gender expression.
00:21:38.000The uniforms have been created for Virgin by British designer Dame Vivian Westwood.
00:22:23.000This feature, however, is available only in a handful of countries, including the US, India, and Pakistan.
00:22:30.000In addition, Virgin Galactic has updated its trans inclusion policies, entitling members of this community to time off for medical treatment related to gender transition and allowing them to choose changing and shower facilities.
00:23:11.000So you see these kinds of things and it's like oh I really I mean it seems like it's only a matter of time before everything becomes totally gay like this.
00:23:20.000But the reason I want to cover it in particular is to paint a picture of the future for you.
00:23:27.000I want to look at the juxtaposition of they put out this highly produced ad, super trendy, you know, pop music and they've got all these black and brown trannies and flamboyant gay guys and butch lesbians and everything in between and they're gonna put out this advertisement and they got the light-skinned gay black guy strutting down in the warehouse with the skirt on
00:23:53.000And I'm thinking, okay, so contrast that with what's really going on on the airplanes.
00:23:59.000Which is, every day now, there's a new video from an airplane where black people are going at it with each other.
00:24:24.000And we get these videos now every day of black people just beating each other up on an airplane.
00:24:31.000And they get in a slap fight, and they're spilling over into the aisle, and they're spilling into the other seats.
00:24:37.000And then, now, you get this counter-trend.
00:24:39.000You get the melody and the counter-melody.
00:24:42.000You get the trend and the counter-trend of drunk white people calling them the N-word.
00:24:49.000And so now we've got this sort of competing melody here.
00:24:55.000Of black people being obnoxious and fighting each other on the airplane.
00:24:59.000Ghetto black people with their pants around their ankles fighting each other and then you get occasionally a white person that's fed up that calls them an n-word and puts a whole flight on blast.
00:25:19.000And you've got black people brawling it out on the airplane around you.
00:25:23.000You're just trying to visit your, like, sick parents, or visit your kid in college, or you're flying on a family vacation with your kids, and you got black people, hey fuck you nigga, fuck you bitch nigga, slapping each other and punching each other.
00:25:37.000And now, and now we've got the added benefit that a flamboyant gay man with nails in a skirt and high heels
00:25:48.000Is gonna sprint down the aisle and say, oh no, no, stop fighting.
00:25:56.000Like, I think I would rather be on the flights on 9-11 than be in these new flights.
00:26:05.000I think I would rather be on an airplane with Al-Qaeda than be on like an average flight within the next 10 years.
00:26:18.000I would feel more comfortable if a group of Muslim terrorists got up and said, like, we're taking control of the plane and we're hijacking it.
00:26:29.000I would rather be on a plane with them than be on a plane with these black people fighting each other and these faggot flight attendants wearing skirts and wearing high heels with the nails.
00:26:45.000I'm not endorsing terrorism when I say that.
00:26:49.000I'm not saying I want that to happen, but I am saying that it would be preferable.
00:26:54.000That I would feel more comfortable if the plane were hurtling towards a field in Pennsylvania or a CIA black site than be on a plane in the modern day.
00:27:09.000That's gonna be... And I want everybody to consider, like, the way that these things are now overlapping with each other, the way that these layers are being stacked, our entire country is like this.
00:27:24.000Our entire country is that dynamic, being destroyed with this pincer mechanism of feral blacks on the one hand, feral minorities,
00:27:37.000Stealing catalytic converters and shooting people and all that kind of thing.
00:27:42.000And then on the other end, it's fat women, stupid bitches, faggots in skirts, and this is like the pincer maneuver that is raping our daily life, raping our daily existence.
00:27:58.000You live in a major city, you walk outside your house, and you better keep your head on a swivel, you better never relax, because this neighborhood is controlled by the blacks.
00:28:09.000Get to work, and you're gonna get a transgender boss in your face, yelling at you to get a memo or whatever, and you're gonna see HR because they heard you say something, you misgendered someone's pronoun.
00:28:29.000Anarcho-tyranny would probably be cool if it existed in a white communist country.
00:28:36.000If it existed in like the 1970s, if it was like Escape from New York.
00:28:41.000You know that movie Escape from New York where you're in...I guess there were blacks there too.
00:28:46.000But if it was like that movie where New York is turned into a prison and the whole place is anarchy everywhere and people cutting each other up with knives and there's a ghetto pimp driving through, I would prefer that kind of anarcho-tyranny, Soylent Green, Escape from New York kind of anarcho-tyranny, because what we have now
00:29:23.000The already gay men are going to get gayer as the flight attendants on the flights.
00:29:28.000But I really wanted to call attention to how that is going to interact.
00:29:33.000I want to talk about the chemical interaction that's going to take place on these flights in the future, which is you're going to get a little bit of everything.
00:29:41.000Just when you thought flying on a plane couldn't get more... and it was already bad.
00:31:10.000Is it insane that we would be under Taliban rule in America?
00:31:14.000And the women would have burkas, and thieves would get their arms chopped off, and blasphemers would get their tongues cut out.
00:31:21.000Or is it more ridiculous that you're gonna board an airplane with a mask on, get groped, you have to bring a shampoo and a three-ounce bottle, and then you get on the flight and black people are gonna be
00:34:06.000And we've heard people for years say, you're overreacting, that's happening over there, that's the minority, that's a small number of vocal extremists on the internet.
00:35:43.000And this is what's going on all across the country, across the board.
00:35:47.000There was another story this week where a gay guy was fired from his job as a weatherman, I think, in New York.
00:35:58.000He was a weatherman in New York on a local affiliate station.
00:36:04.000And he got fired because he was on some kind of like webcam site like Jack Murphy doing all kinds of weird gay sex acts and I guess the news station found out about it and they fired him.
00:36:22.000The story in the news was about how celebrities
00:36:27.000And people across the internet rallied behind the guy to say they shouldn't have fired you, it's horrible that work can separate out your social life.
00:37:09.000What I cannot live with is, hey, you could see me on the evening news covering the weather and then on XXX.com blowing some other, like, seriously?
00:37:40.000Communism, fascism, Germany ruling our country, Japan buying everything, Chinese communism, the Chinese buying everything, some kind of lunar colony ruling America from space.
00:37:57.000I would prefer almost just about anything.
00:38:03.000To the kind of daily humiliation and indignity that we have to suffer in this country now.
00:38:10.000Lizzo playing the flute at the concert.
00:38:15.000That almost wasn't even the most offensive thing.
00:38:18.000You know Lizzo, in case you missed this, she was at some concert in D.C.
00:38:23.000in the National History Museum or National Archive.
00:38:32.000That belonged to James Madison, the president.
00:38:36.000And she played it on stage while twerking.
00:38:38.000She got this obese black woman with her ass hanging out twerking, playing a former president's crystal flute, which was a gift from the French.
00:38:48.000And that, you know, that's sort of just par for the course.
00:38:51.000It's like, we've already seen that in various ways.
00:39:47.000So you get, it's not even so much fat naked black woman twerking with the... Okay, we saw that during BLM.
00:39:53.000We saw that during 2020 and every shade and every kind of expression.
00:39:59.000But when she goes, history's freaking cool, man.
00:40:04.000That to me is the more pernicious thing almost because that is just the base celebration of ignorance which goes on all the time that nobody talks about.
00:40:15.000This post-literacy, illiteracy of the country.
00:40:19.000That's the level of engagement that people have with ideas and with things that matter.
00:40:38.000And the show is something like, alright, so basically George Washington said fuck you, let's create a fucking free country and do shit that we wanna do.
00:41:37.000You see all the girls and everybody, that's a thing that they do now, is they stick their tongues out.
00:41:44.000It's like, we just live in this country where there's just no, there's no dignity, there's no propriety, there's no respect, no self-respect, and honestly I think a lot of it just has to go.
00:41:58.000Like a lot of these people, we gotta try and save people, we gotta try and save as many people as we can and turn them back, but it's a fine line between evangelizing and throwing our pearls before swine.
00:42:11.000Between evangelizing people that can be saved and throwing our pearls before swine, at some point you've got to recognize these people are gone.
00:42:39.000It used to be the case that we had this normal society and you did have this peanut gallery, but the peanut gallery is getting louder and louder and louder and now they're in control and now they dictate everything and now they have supplanted what was normal.
00:42:55.000So whether it's an airplane or the news or it's the national history or even just the base attitude of the young people,
00:44:12.000Because I'm watching this advertisement for the... and this is the last thing I'll say.
00:44:16.000I'm watching the announcement trailer for the uniforms and they're like... and it seems like they're cognizant that this is so shocking and horrible.
00:44:26.000And the gay people in the commercial are saying, well this isn't hurting anybody.
00:46:10.000When you compare the two, would you rather be on a plane with 9-11 hijackers or on a Virgin Atlantic flight?
00:46:21.000I think I'll take my chances with the Muslims now.
00:46:25.000Because you know what, if we were on a flight with Muslims, at least the Muslims would kill the gay flight attendants first.
00:46:33.000We could be rest assured that if we were on a plane with Muslim extremists, I'm confident that before hijacking the plane, they would deal with the guy flight attendants in high heels first, or the black people punching each other.
00:46:51.000If the air marshal couldn't control them, if the flight attendant couldn't control them, you know who would step up.
00:46:57.000You know who would step up and get the job done.
00:46:59.000And that is a goat herder with a rag on his head.
00:48:28.000And the big development is that we've now seen these new text messages that Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey exchanged before Elon Musk began purchasing Twitter stock earlier this year.
00:48:41.000And they talk about not just buying the platform but a few other ideas which included at one point putting Elon Musk on the board of Twitter or creating a new Twitter protocol not controlled by any company.
00:48:55.000It says, quote, Elon Musk exchanged text messages with Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey a few weeks before he made his $44 billion offer to buy Twitter.
00:49:06.000Dorsey texted Musk in late March saying he left Twitter because a new platform is needed and it can't be a company, according to a court filing related to Twitter and Musk's legal battle that was uploaded to Document Cloud by New York Times reporter Kate Conger.
00:49:23.000When Musk asked what it should look like, Dorsey said Twitter must be an open source protocol funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn't own the protocol, only advances it.
00:49:34.000Dorsey went on to say over text message that Twitter can't have an advertising model and that he intended to do this work and fix our mistakes once he left the company's board in May.
00:49:45.000In response, Musk said he would like to help if I am able to.
00:49:49.000In another March text message, Dorsey revealed that he had previously attempted to get Musk on Twitter's board back when we had the activists come in, but he said the board rejected the idea according to the text message log.
00:50:03.000He said, I think the main reason is the board is super risk-averse and saw adding you as more risk, which I thought was completely stupid and backwards, but I only had one vote and 3% of the company and no dual class shares.
00:50:17.000Musk expressed a desire to discuss more, adding, quote, I think it's worth both trying to move Twitter in a better direction and doing something new that's decentralized.
00:50:28.000So this is interesting, and it tells us a little bit about Elon Musk's motivation for buying Twitter.
00:50:34.000A lot of people said that he was doing it for profit, but this seems to suggest that that's not the case.
00:50:41.000If he's out there talking with Jack Dorsey, whose original vision was for Twitter to be the free speech wing of the free speech party, and he's talking about it in these terms and has his trust, then I think it's fair to say that Elon Musk
00:50:55.000Contrary to what a lot of the haters said, that he was buying Twitter to promote his batteries or his stock or protect his account, he really was trying to buy Twitter to advance free speech, which is a positive sign that a powerful guy like that is pushing in our direction.
00:51:12.000I will say, though, the more salient feature here, though, is how it seems that maybe they're a little bit naive.
00:51:22.000Maybe I'm wrong about this, but because of course Dorsey and Musk, they must know more than I do.
00:51:28.000But it would almost seem a little bit naive to even suggest that such a thing like a Twitter protocol could exist.
00:51:38.000Because as we've seen, the problem with censorship is not happening at the platform level.
00:51:46.000It's not happening at the level of Twitter or Facebook or YouTube separately and individually.
00:51:53.000It's not the company politics or the company policies happening at any particular company or all of them.
00:52:01.000Because what we know about the platforms is that they all collude.
00:52:06.000And that would seem to suggest that each individual platform is not really in control of its own destiny.
00:52:17.000Well, the recent example was Andrew Tate, who was banned from every platform all at once.
00:52:29.000So what that proves is that you don't have this diversity between the companies which would indicate an autonomy of the companies.
00:52:40.000If all of these companies were truly autonomous, meaning they had their own decision makers and they had their own pressures and constraints and incentive structures, then you would expect that naturally they would have different policy or different implementation.
00:53:00.000If YouTube were truly autonomous, their policy would maybe be similar but not quite the same as TikTok.
00:53:08.000And TikToks would not be quite the same as Twitters and so on.
00:53:12.000And you would expect that at the minimum there might be one platform, one holdout, that doesn't ban.
00:53:47.000They're colluding, which would suggest that there's a meta-culture in the industry.
00:53:53.000And the same is true at the social media companies.
00:53:56.000It would seem to suggest that there's either a meta culture or they're all being subject to a higher pressure or a higher influence that is not unique to their company and they don't have real latitude to make discretionary decisions but rather
00:54:37.000That's where the users are, is on mobile.
00:54:39.000And how do the platforms get on the phone?
00:54:41.000Well, we all know you don't access them through browser, you access them through the proprietary app on the proprietary app store, which is the Apple App Store and the Google Play Store.
00:54:56.000And so, even if Twitter were able to become a free speech platform, well, it would run into all the same problems as all the other existing free speech platforms.
00:55:09.000What's the difference between True Social and Twitter?
00:55:14.000It's not that Twitter has 300 million users and that makes it fundamentally different.
00:55:19.000The difference is that True Social is not censoring and Twitter is.
00:55:24.000But if Twitter stopped censoring, they would very quickly go the way of True Social and Parler.
00:55:31.000And Getter and all the others, which is to say they would run into some serious problems from shareholders, from advertisers which supply the revenue, from investors, from pay processors, from the app stores.
00:55:48.000So, in other words, the problem of censorship on the platforms is not a platform problem.
00:56:18.000Maybe their shareholders revolt and the board reverses the decision.
00:56:22.000Maybe the advertisers pull out and the company, which was never profitable, cannot even become profitable in the future and they run into all kinds of problems.
00:56:32.000Maybe there's a revolt within the company of the people that work there.
00:56:37.000Can Twitter be a free speech platform?
00:57:51.000The water company and the gas company and the electric company can't stop providing water, gas, and electricity to people that are racist.
00:57:59.000And so you have woke people working at those companies and they're subject to pressures, but the government says there's no discrimination.
00:58:07.000So that's just the state of things there.
00:58:11.000And so it would seem to me then that that's the only way that you can solve all those problems.
00:58:17.000What are the odds that you're going to solve Twitter and also solve the Apple App Store and also solve the payment processors and the advertisers?
00:58:25.000You're not going to convince all these people that free speech is profitable or something that they like or should fight for.
00:58:31.000You're not going to convince all of them to do that.
00:58:34.000And you're not going to get lucky that you get a base person to take over Twitter, Apple, and the advertisers, and the board, and everything all at once.
00:58:43.000What are the odds that it's all going to shake out with the right people, the right ideas, and the culture shifts, and so on?
00:58:49.000There just are not the pressures and incentives to push society in that direction.
00:58:55.000There is nothing to be gained by the people who are the interested parties by allowing people talk about Jews on the internet.
00:59:06.000There's just no one powerful that benefits from that.
00:59:10.000And there's no one powerful that would not stand a lot to lose by defending those kinds of people.
00:59:17.000Fundamentally, censorship works because the censored people are weak.
00:59:26.000You censor people with fringe political views.
00:59:28.000Fringe political views will give a person low status and probably low income and low wealth and low everything.
00:59:40.000People that have fringe political views, even if they're rich, although they're often not, are ostracized.
00:59:48.000And so that's why they're able to get away with it, because at the end of the day, nobody's gonna care that much about so-called Nazis being kicked off the internet.
00:59:56.000And who's gonna go and risk their reputation for those people to be on there for the purpose of principle?
01:00:05.000The forces of society are arrayed against this kind of awakening that people... People delude themselves into thinking, like when I talked to Styx Hexenhammer, he's like, we just need to win the argument, man!
01:00:19.000We just need to go out and build a better platform, man!
01:00:25.000Do people seriously believe that we're gonna raise the consciousness and wake everybody up and one day we're gonna convince everybody to have free speech?
01:00:33.000Because if you think that, that's just not plausible.
01:00:37.000It sounds nice, but there's no roadmap to get there.
01:00:55.000The bureaucracy, the legislature, Supreme Court.
01:00:59.000Those are the three avenues through government that you're going to be able to set the right forces, set the right pressures to allow a free speech culture to flourish.
01:01:11.000Only within the parameters government sets can that happen.
01:01:28.000And can you solve it at every level that it's happening at?
01:01:31.000Can you solve it at the App Store, and the bank, and the processor, and the advertiser, and the shareholder, and the broader culture, and the social climate?
01:01:41.000Can you do all that in a reasonable amount of time?