America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Dissecting Progressivism feat. David Sherratt | America First Ep. 204

00:00:03.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:04.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:06.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:08.000 We've got a great show for you tonight.

00:00:10.000 We're very excited to have two special guests.

00:00:15.000 First time we're having on a leftist of any kind, and now we have two leftists on the same show.

00:00:23.000 So I know you are all excited to see Vic Berger and David Sherat.

00:00:28.000 David Sherat will be coming on momentarily.

00:00:30.000 I'll be inviting him.

00:00:31.000 Vic Berger is here in the studio today.

00:00:35.000 And where did he go?

00:00:36.000 He was just in here a moment ago.

00:00:38.000 Vic!

00:00:40.000 Vic, get over here, Vic!

00:00:44.000 Oh, there he is.

00:00:47.000 What's going on, Vic Burger?

00:00:49.000 Welcome to America First.

00:00:54.000 Mr. Burger, it is great to have you on the show finally.

00:00:59.000 And tell us, what is the secret?

00:01:01.000 What is the secret to the magic of your videos?

00:01:04.000 I don't know.

00:01:06.000 Well, there you have it, folks.

00:01:09.000 Vic Berger, I don't know.

00:01:10.000 Can we get a close up on him?

00:01:13.000 Let me see if I can zoom in.

00:01:16.000 I hate to say that.

00:01:19.000 Can I?

00:01:22.000 I can't go further down.

00:01:23.000 I've got to move him, actually.

00:01:28.000 There you have it, folks.

00:01:29.000 There is the incomparable Vic Berger live.

00:01:33.000 Why can't I drag this down?

00:01:35.000 Hang on.

00:01:38.000 Go down.

00:01:41.000 Well, I guess that's the most I can zoom it in.

00:01:41.000 All right.

00:01:43.000 But there you have it, folks.

00:01:45.000 Vic Berger making the appearance.

00:01:46.000 He's been kind of quiet today.

00:01:47.000 I don't know what that's all about.

00:01:49.000 Do we get it right?

00:01:50.000 Do we get it about right?

00:01:52.000 I know this is, you can't really see it because of my black shirt here.

00:01:55.000 Maybe if I move him over here, we got the hair and everything.

00:01:58.000 Tell me if I got it right.

00:01:59.000 I'll zoom back out here.

00:02:01.000 Well, let me know if I got it right here.

00:02:04.000 Did I get it?

00:02:06.000 Did I get it basically correct?

00:02:08.000 I know Mr. Berger was making fun of me a little bit.

00:02:12.000 A little bit this week, so we had to get him back just a bit.

00:02:18.000 No, it's just a joke.

00:02:19.000 Vic Berger, the real Vic Berger, will not be joining us, just this version.

00:02:24.000 So he'll be, I guess we'll have him hanging out over here during the show.

00:02:27.000 He can watch the super chats.

00:02:30.000 The real guest coming on the show, David Sherrod, he will actually be joining us, but of course via Google Hangout.

00:02:37.000 So I'm going to get the link to him and we'll have him on in a moment.

00:02:41.000 A lot of people didn't believe me.

00:02:42.000 I said Vic Berger was going to be on the show.

00:02:45.000 On Wednesday, and then I was telling everybody on Discord and everything, and people were like, He's not really coming on, is he?

00:02:55.000 Is he gonna dox you?

00:02:57.000 Is there gonna be a big concern?

00:02:58.000 Whatever.

00:03:00.000 So, oh wait, hang on, I accidentally sent David the YouTube link instead of the Hangouts link.

00:03:08.000 Let me get that over.

00:03:09.000 Yeah, so a lot of people were, maybe people are disappointed, I'm not sure.

00:03:13.000 I'm certainly not disappointed.

00:03:14.000 I think this is better in many ways than if we got him on for real.

00:03:18.000 So, I'm going to get my headphones on and we'll get David Sherrod going on the show.

00:03:23.000 And it appears he is with us right now.

00:03:26.000 David, can you hear me?

00:03:32.000 Can you hear me, big guy?

00:03:34.000 Alternative facts.

00:03:38.000 Oh, I guess he just left the call.

00:03:42.000 Let's see.

00:03:42.000 Maybe he's getting his audio set up.

00:03:44.000 There he is.

00:03:45.000 What's going on, big guy?

00:03:50.000 I was going to make fun of you for your boomer level understanding of technology, but then I just had technical issues of my own right then.

00:03:56.000 See, there it is.

00:03:58.000 That's what happens.

00:03:59.000 That's what happens, you know, because look, I like to think I've gotten better at the technology, but, you know, it's just, I think it's the technology itself sometimes, right?

00:04:10.000 Yeah, I think it is.

00:04:12.000 Well, it's good to have you on.

00:04:14.000 This is the first time we're speaking on stream or anything.

00:04:18.000 I know we've gone at it back and forth a little bit on Twitter, so why don't you just tell us a little bit about yourself?

00:04:23.000 Introduce yourself to the masses of America First viewers.

00:04:28.000 Oh, God. 1.00

00:04:30.000 I'm a lefty shit poster, basically. 1.00

00:04:33.000 I. Just poke some right wing people on Twitter and meme and shitpost. 1.00

00:04:39.000 That's basically it. 0.77

00:04:42.000 Excellent.

00:04:42.000 Well, and you are, I notice that you are British.

00:04:46.000 What part of Britain are you from?

00:04:47.000 I don't mean to dox you, but I'm always interested in the accents.

00:04:51.000 They're all very different.

00:04:52.000 Oh, I'm from south of England, Dorset, but really I don't have that accent.

00:05:01.000 Mine's just sort of received pronunciation, kind of standard British accent.

00:05:06.000 Good to know.

00:05:06.000 All right.

00:05:07.000 Just wondering.

00:05:08.000 That's not anything.

00:05:09.000 Because I'm always interested to see.

00:05:12.000 I met somebody from Wales and people from Northern UK, and they all have different accents.

00:05:17.000 But anyway.

00:05:19.000 Different towns have different accents.

00:05:22.000 It's a great thing.

00:05:22.000 I like it.

00:05:23.000 I like it.

00:05:25.000 And that's what we want to preserve, David.

00:05:27.000 That's what we're trying to preserve on the show.

00:05:30.000 So the first thing I wanted to talk to you about, I want to get into just general, because I'd like to have you on for a debate in the future.

00:05:36.000 I know the first time I reached out to you, I said, Do you want to debate?

00:05:39.000 There wasn't really anything pressing at the time.

00:05:42.000 So, this will just be kind of an introduction.

00:05:44.000 I know you can't stay for very long.

00:05:46.000 But, for starters, before we get into some of the bigger questions, you were tweeting at me about the PayPal situation.

00:05:54.000 Yes.

00:05:55.000 And so, you're obviously, for people who may not be aware, Faith Goldie, Red Ice, Millennial Matt all got kicked off of PayPal this week.

00:06:03.000 They got their account suspended because of hate speech or something to that effect. 0.56

00:06:09.000 And I saw that you were out there saying, well, this is hypocritical because.

00:06:13.000 All conservatives are about the free market.

00:06:15.000 All conservatives are about this standard argument about discrimination and that kind of thing.

00:06:22.000 And so just tell us a little bit about your takes on that issue.

00:06:26.000 Well, I think it's basically, as far as I'm concerned, like when you're engaging in this sort of online politics stuff, you're not owed a check for it.

00:06:41.000 And no organization owes you some, like, Owes you a service to fund yourself.

00:06:49.000 As far as I'm concerned, like Patreon has no legal responsibility to facilitate transactions.

00:06:59.000 So, as far as I'm concerned, if they don't want you on there, then they don't have to have you on there.

00:07:05.000 That's true.

00:07:07.000 And, you know, that's something that I don't think anybody would disagree with.

00:07:07.000 That's true.

00:07:11.000 I think everybody who had a problem with that would readily admit that legally speaking, PayPal has the right to do that.

00:07:18.000 Patreon has the right to do that.

00:07:20.000 Stripe has the right to suspend those services.

00:07:23.000 But I guess then we get into several questions, which is ought they to?

00:07:27.000 Ought they serve people, even if they disagree with their political positions?

00:07:32.000 And if not, if you say they ought not to serve people like Faith Goldie, Red Ice, and whomever, what do you think the limits are to that kind of discrimination?

00:07:40.000 Because I look at something like that where I know a lot of people would say they've got the right to, but if you are, if we're in the internet age, And there are a select few amounts of payment processors which are out there, constitutes either a monopoly or an oligopoly.

00:07:56.000 Do you not think that those kinds of services, it is in the interest of the public that they should serve people and not discriminate based on viewpoint?

00:08:04.000 Or do you disagree with that?

00:08:07.000 I think that when you're dealing with stuff like this, you've got to understand that this isn't just about specifically political viewpoint.

00:08:17.000 This is about social views.

00:08:18.000 This is about, and you can't entirely blame them for taking down people with certain social views.

00:08:29.000 Like, Patreon doesn't just take down right wingers.

00:08:31.000 They take down, like, different, like, anti FUG groups who are interested in doxing and all that stuff.

00:08:38.000 They, so it's not just like they have a terms of service.

00:08:43.000 You kind of agree to that terms of service when you go up.

00:08:47.000 And as far as I, like, from what I can tell, they just don't like the idea of having to fund certain groups because those groups are, you know, Causing harm.

00:09:00.000 And as far as, like, I think at this point, like, how do you really tell a business, okay, you have to now fund me because even though funding me is going to harm your profits, it's just not going to happen.

00:09:20.000 This is like, you can not like it all you like, you cannot like it, but this is capitalism.

00:09:27.000 This is just how.

00:09:28.000 This works.

00:09:29.000 As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't mind an entirely non discriminatory sort of payment service.

00:09:36.000 But I mean, that's what banks are for.

00:09:40.000 Well, I think there you have it.

00:09:41.000 I mean, it is capitalism, but I think the mistake you and many of your compatriots on the left have is that everyone on the right is gung ho about the free market.

00:09:51.000 I'm not.

00:09:52.000 And I think many people who watch this show are not.

00:09:54.000 I mean, certainly there are a lot of more conventional type people, but I think that it is in the interest of the state.

00:10:00.000 To uphold the public interest, the public good.

00:10:02.000 And that means that, and I understand the argument that says that, well, PayPal should not fund, but it's really PayPal which is facilitating the funding.

00:10:10.000 They actually make money off of the funding of these different organizations.

00:10:14.000 And anyway, I think that it's a nice idea to say, well, they should be able to pick and choose.

00:10:20.000 But the problem becomes when their terms of services can basically be manipulated according to whatever preferences the owner or owners of PayPal are or have.

00:10:31.000 Is where does it end?

00:10:32.000 Can they say one day, for example, that they will ban all left wing people, that they will ban all black people, they will ban all, you know, pick and choose any group?

00:10:40.000 Twitter affirmed, and this is not PayPal, this is Twitter, but Twitter affirmed in their lawsuit with Jared Taylor, they said, we uphold, or rather, we reserve the right to ban any group for any reason based on their race, based on immutable characteristics, which are outlawed in the Civil Rights Act.

00:10:59.000 So for you, if you say, well, this is capitalism, that's how it goes.

00:11:04.000 How comfortable would you be if that were extended to people that maybe you care for and don't want to see someone?

00:11:09.000 Look, don't get me wrong.

00:11:10.000 I'm not actually entirely comfortable with it being thrown around willy nilly.

00:11:14.000 I just think that there are certain situations.

00:11:17.000 And when it comes to, as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to social media and stuff, I think it's entirely pointless to engage in this sort of mass trying to create these terms of service that shut down different political views.

00:11:34.000 I just don't think it works. 0.99

00:11:35.000 As far as I'm concerned, because this shit hits left wingers as well. 0.99

00:11:40.000 And a lot of us know this is that for every white genocide video that gets taken down, there's a video criticizing the white genocide stuff that gets taken down. 0.99

00:11:52.000 Any YouTuber that's done something against the alt right, they've been mass flacked. 0.98

00:11:56.000 They've had shit taken down. 0.97

00:11:57.000 They've been put into limited state. 0.87

00:11:59.000 So, as far as I'm concerned, I think it's an inherent problem with having bots deal with stuff like that.

00:12:04.000 But I think there's a significant difference between your access to social media and your access to presenting a message and your right to make money from a crowdfunding website.

00:12:18.000 And I can understand why crowdfunding sites would be concerned with the idea of funding groups that are.

00:12:27.000 Not always the most reasonable.

00:12:31.000 Like, they can be a bit shady at times.

00:12:33.000 And I'm not necessarily saying any specific group is, but when you deal with certain white nationalist groups, they do tend to have ties to former neo Nazi groups.

00:12:46.000 They tend to be tied to violence and stuff like that.

00:12:50.000 So I just don't think it's a good idea.

00:12:53.000 I can understand why it wouldn't be a good idea, like, even morally, for them to start.

00:12:58.000 Funding them or facilitating the funding.

00:13:00.000 There is nothing stopping you from going, send checks to me.

00:13:04.000 It's just easier.

00:13:06.000 I mean, it is an important distinction.

00:13:07.000 I'll grant you, it's an important distinction to distinguish between social media and the financial element and the crowdfunding online.

00:13:16.000 But I think if we look at the precedent that's been set in this country, at least in America, is that money does constitute speech.

00:13:23.000 You know, that's why you don't agree with that.

00:13:25.000 Well, I completely disagree. 1.00

00:13:29.000 I think the idea of money being considered free speech is stupid. 0.96

00:13:33.000 And I think the American legal system doesn't agree with it either because they don't consider that there are lots of different financial things you can't pay someone for, but you can do. 0.98

00:13:46.000 So if I can say what I want, but the only way that I can say it is basically to other people interpersonally, I can't go online, can't go on a newspaper, and I can't feed myself.

00:13:56.000 I mean, is that really?

00:13:57.000 I understand maybe legally it's not.

00:14:00.000 I'm not a good person in favor of social media censorship.

00:14:03.000 I think it does more harm than good.

00:14:05.000 But then, in terms of, all right, so let's say you're on social media, but if you can't make money from it, if you're not able, and you're fired from your job as well, because, I mean, this is a reality.

00:14:05.000 Okay.

00:14:14.000 You could say, oh, well, we're not responsible for that, but that is what's happening.

00:14:18.000 People make it so that, in my case and many other people's cases, some people more so, it becomes impossible to hold or express certain views without being basically sanctioned and embargoed economically for the most part, with the exception of.

00:14:33.000 If you have some kind of connection, some kind of a private thing.

00:14:36.000 And really, we get back to not what is legal or apropos in a free market system, but what is in the public interest.

00:14:44.000 Is it in the public interest that if somebody expresses a dissident view, that they are able essentially to be sanctioned?

00:14:50.000 Now, you could say, and I think it's in the interest.

00:14:52.000 I think it's going to happen anyway, to be honest.

00:14:55.000 I don't see that ever not happening.

00:14:57.000 So I think it's just one of those kinds of things where it's just a fight you're not going to win.

00:15:02.000 I think we'll win.

00:15:03.000 And here's the problem, though.

00:15:05.000 Maybe you could say that other businesses can fire people.

00:15:08.000 You know, you lose your job.

00:15:09.000 But then at the very least, people should be able to make content or make these kinds of statements and have people give them money.

00:15:16.000 And remember, it's not even like PayPal is funding them directly.

00:15:19.000 They're only facilitating the transfer of money across long distances so that it's not, you have to write out a check, put it in the mail, and send it.

00:15:26.000 I mean, effectively, it's a matter of expediency.

00:15:28.000 Well, we do online banking now.

00:15:31.000 But you know as well as anybody else that that's not.

00:15:33.000 I mean, people do not do e commerce with banking.

00:15:36.000 That's not even close to the same thing.

00:15:39.000 Yeah, well, people don't, but they could if they needed to.

00:15:44.000 I don't think so.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, the fact that it makes it harder, who cares?

00:15:49.000 Well, I think it's.

00:15:50.000 That's just what you have to deal with as someone who's controversial.

00:15:54.000 I think it just very much reveals the real view.

00:15:59.000 As far as I'm concerned, I took down my Patreon.

00:16:02.000 I took down any way of making money.

00:16:04.000 Because you know what?

00:16:05.000 I was demonetized on YouTube as well.

00:16:07.000 But you know, the thing is that, and this is something with the alt right and just sort of far right groups online, is that unfortunately no one likes you.

00:16:17.000 Very few people like you.

00:16:19.000 You're just horrible advertising. 0.95

00:16:21.000 You scare people off the.

00:16:24.000 I'm not the alt right.

00:16:25.000 No, you're not, but you're part of that sort of far right group, that far right sort of movement online.

00:16:33.000 And it's just something people don't like.

00:16:36.000 That's just simply not true.

00:16:38.000 If you look at, well, I mean, that's another question entirely, and I'll engage on that very quickly.

00:16:43.000 I mean, that's just simply not true.

00:16:44.000 You look at, for example, Tucker Carlson.

00:16:47.000 Tucker Carlson is seen by many, even left wing people like yourself, as an avatar, if not a lighter version, but an avatar of our kinds of.

00:16:55.000 Nationalistic views, and he's wildly successful on Fox News. 0.93

00:16:59.000 Donald Trump, in many ways, he is a wildly successful dog whistling crypto fascist.

00:17:04.000 As far as I'm concerned, well, you guys, the only way you guys can ever get popularity is by pretending not to be as extreme as you actually are. 0.69

00:17:13.000 Because, okay, well, hold on a second.

00:17:17.000 So you go from your views are not popular to, well, okay, your views are extremely popular, but you just have to keep them quiet because otherwise things like PayPal happen.

00:17:27.000 You have to present your own views.

00:17:29.000 You have to misrepresent your own views to convince people.

00:17:31.000 Well, I don't think it's a misrepresentation.

00:17:33.000 I think it's a matter of rhetoric.

00:17:35.000 I mean, does the left not do the same thing?

00:17:37.000 Does the left go out there in most cases, in terms of elected officials and not people on television? 0.97

00:17:42.000 Do they go out there and say, we love abortions, we love killing babies?

00:17:45.000 I mean, maybe media figures do, but politicians call it pro choice. 0.85

00:17:49.000 I mean, the left does the same thing.

00:17:50.000 It's rhetoric.

00:17:52.000 To be honest, if anything, especially with politicians and elected officials, they seem to present themselves as more left wing than they actually are.

00:18:00.000 Really?

00:18:01.000 Yeah.

00:18:01.000 So in the case of Barack Obama, when he was campaigning in 2008, did he really present himself as far left as he turned out to be?

00:18:09.000 Or do you think he went around saying things like, we're against illegal immigration and we're against gay marriage and all the rest?

00:18:16.000 I mean, you know that's not true.

00:18:19.000 He was pushing this whole change let's end the banks, let's bring up the poor, and then what?

00:18:25.000 He was as neoliberal as the rest of them.

00:18:28.000 But the point being that in 2008, he ran effectively in such a way that he could win Indiana.

00:18:33.000 He won Indiana.

00:18:35.000 And he campaigned not on saying you didn't build that.

00:18:37.000 That didn't come until later.

00:18:38.000 He campaigned not on saying things like he did just the other day where he said, men are really getting on my nerves. 0.96

00:18:44.000 We need more women.

00:18:45.000 He wasn't saying anything like that in 2008 when he was running.

00:18:48.000 And look, the point is not to say, the point is simply to say, you say, oh, well, Tucker Carlson can only become popular because he's dog whistling.

00:18:56.000 People don't like your views if you really represent them.

00:18:58.000 Well, that's a matter simply of optics, which is my favorite, or rhetoric.

00:19:02.000 But to pretend that both sides don't play that game.

00:19:05.000 Well, he's on rhetoric.

00:19:06.000 I don't think it's entirely optics and rhetoric.

00:19:08.000 What would you call it then?

00:19:09.000 Well, no, because a lot of the time it is literally misrepresented in a misleading manner.

00:19:15.000 Well, give me an example.

00:19:18.000 So it's pretty common that a lot of right wing voices recently have just come out as ethno nationalists when they've been pretending to be civic nationalists for the past several months.

00:19:31.000 Quite cool.

00:19:33.000 Blonde in the Belly of the Beast, Faith Goldie. 0.98

00:19:34.000 I don't even know that.

00:19:35.000 Oh, well, these are.

00:19:37.000 Faith Goldie has been a pretty strident nationalist from the beginning. 0.95

00:19:42.000 Well, you're bringing up a lot of women. 0.99

00:19:44.000 I don't think that's really fair to bring up because women kind of float in between. 1.00

00:19:49.000 They straddle the line.

00:19:50.000 I think if you brought up somebody like a Donald Trump, like a Tucker Carlson, the people we've been talking about who are mainstream, popular, they don't have to misrepresent their views.

00:19:58.000 I think they're pretty representative.

00:20:01.000 What's that?

00:20:02.000 Braving Ruin.

00:20:04.000 Braving.

00:20:05.000 Okay, a small YouTuber.

00:20:06.000 We're talking about mainstream popularity.

00:20:08.000 But to go back to the fundamental point.

00:20:12.000 They use the same misleading tactics.

00:20:14.000 I don't.

00:20:14.000 Well, you can't give me a single example.

00:20:16.000 Tucker Carlson, where's a misleading tactic?

00:20:19.000 He presents himself as just a normal conservative.

00:20:21.000 Which he is.

00:20:22.000 In terms of, well, what do you define as normal?

00:20:25.000 Do you define normal as like the neoliberal insurgency that happened in the last 30 years?

00:20:30.000 Or are you talking about the traditional conservatism that's governed the country for like 250 years?

00:20:37.000 Well, okay, if you're going to say that you were the normal conservative is the kind of person that started America, fair enough. 0.98

00:20:48.000 But shit's moved on from then. 0.97

00:20:51.000 I think he presents himself exactly. 0.99

00:20:53.000 His views are that we should have a nation.

00:20:56.000 We should have a border.

00:20:57.000 We should have some degree of identity in America.

00:21:00.000 I don't think there's anything misleading about that.

00:21:03.000 I don't even think most lefties would disagree with that, though.

00:21:07.000 I think you'd be surprised.

00:21:09.000 What were the banners of the people that were marching into the country in the caravan the other day?

00:21:13.000 What was it?

00:21:14.000 Seen Fronteras without borders?

00:21:17.000 You know, people who are saying we should abolish ICE?

00:21:20.000 People who are saying no borders, no nation, and deportation?

00:21:25.000 ISIS only existed for the past decade or so.

00:21:28.000 It was created for the last time.

00:21:29.000 17 years.

00:21:31.000 Okay, so if it's Clinton, it's a couple of decades at least, right?

00:21:35.000 Yeah, it was, well, number one, it was created by the Clintons, by Democrats.

00:21:40.000 So, for one, yes, there are clearly ostensibly left wing people in America who are in favor of immigration control.

00:21:49.000 And second, America had borders before ICE.

00:21:53.000 Way before ICE.

00:21:54.000 Okay, yeah.

00:21:55.000 And before, if you go back to the Bracero Act, we just rounded them up and shipped.

00:21:59.000 We didn't need ICE.

00:21:59.000 Them out.

00:22:00.000 Number one, because we didn't have a massive illegal problem.

00:22:03.000 And when we did, we just shipped them out in massive numbers. 0.90

00:22:06.000 We didn't have, since the 65 Immigration Act, we didn't have people pouring across the border like we do now in the last 35, 40 years or so. 0.88

00:22:15.000 So I think you have to recognize that the context has changed a little too.

00:22:17.000 But, you know, all of this is to say, you say our views are not popular.

00:22:22.000 Obviously, they're popular.

00:22:23.000 People want to give Faith Goldie money.

00:22:25.000 People want to support us financially, support us online.

00:22:29.000 If they didn't, PayPal wouldn't need to shut us down, but they do.

00:22:32.000 And so I think that you're saying, well, you know, PayPal doesn't have to cater because that's a free market baby.

00:22:39.000 I think it almost goes against your ideology, which is supposed to be about what's in the public interest, not what's the rules in capitalism, right?

00:22:46.000 I mean, don't you think there's a public interest in that?

00:22:48.000 I'm not as concerned.

00:22:49.000 You guys are just an extremely loud group of people.

00:22:52.000 You're just louder than the majority of the population.

00:22:56.000 I don't think that's true.

00:23:00.000 How are we louder than, for example, like a Bernie Sanders?

00:23:02.000 You think that Richard?

00:23:04.000 Spencer and others, and those characters are louder than the Bernie Bro left.

00:23:09.000 I mean, these people have millions and millions of followers.

00:23:12.000 They don't get censored.

00:23:13.000 Well, then aren't you contradicting yourself now?

00:23:16.000 You just said that your views are extremely popular, but they're nothing in comparison to the Bernie Bro left.

00:23:23.000 Well, you're talking about being loud.

00:23:24.000 And if you're talking about how loud a voice can be, we're being censored, whereas these people are being catered to.

00:23:31.000 Do you think lefties are being censored?

00:23:32.000 Not at all.

00:23:34.000 You don't think like.

00:23:36.000 Not nearly in a comparable fashion.

00:23:40.000 I would entirely disagree with that.

00:23:41.000 Left Twitter is dealing with just as much, if not more, censorship than you guys.

00:23:46.000 Like whom? 0.98

00:23:48.000 Everyone's getting fucking banned. 0.97

00:23:51.000 I'm not even on my first account. 0.98

00:23:55.000 I don't know many lefties who are on their first accounts on Twitter at this point.

00:23:58.000 How about people like Keith Ellison?

00:24:00.000 How about people like major figures with verifications?

00:24:03.000 I mean, has that ever happened on your side?

00:24:06.000 The verified people always have loads, always don't get hit.

00:24:10.000 But you're verified on Twitter.

00:24:13.000 Well, I was lucky, but people like James Alsop, Spencer, Jared Taylor, Vox Day, American Renaissance.

00:24:20.000 Well, yeah, well, that's what.

00:24:21.000 Vox Day!

00:24:23.000 Like, Vox Day supports Brevik.

00:24:26.000 Like, Twitter banned.

00:24:29.000 He did.

00:24:29.000 He said that.

00:24:30.000 No, he straight up said that when all of this ends, there will be statues of Brevik in Europe and shit. 0.98

00:24:39.000 I don't think that's a message of support. 0.97

00:24:42.000 No, I will go through it.

00:24:44.000 He said that Brevik is a hero.

00:24:46.000 Well, anyway, then subtract one.

00:24:48.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:24:49.000 Then subtract one single example and then tell me about what Jared Taylor did wrong.

00:24:55.000 Those mass bands were all connected to groups that are connected to violence.

00:25:00.000 Okay, then tell me about American Renaissance's connections with violence. 0.99

00:25:04.000 Aren't American Renaissance connected to fucking eugenicist groups or some shit? 0.99

00:25:10.000 No. 0.99

00:25:11.000 Because from what I know, you're asking me.

00:25:15.000 You just said, well, they're all connected with.

00:25:17.000 Violent organizations.

00:25:19.000 The only people that Twitter bans on the left are people who are like the most over the top, the most explicit in terms of violence, or they say a swear word or something.

00:25:29.000 You know, they ban an Antifa person planning a terror attack.

00:25:31.000 On our side, you have to, oh, well, aren't they doing this?

00:25:34.000 Aren't they?

00:25:35.000 I'm not sure, but of course they're not connected.

00:25:38.000 No, but that's the point, though, is that this censorship stuff affects just your average random foot soldier way more than big figures.

00:25:45.000 The big figures get taken down.

00:25:47.000 On your side, maybe on your side.

00:25:49.000 On our side, many of the big figures get taken down.

00:25:53.000 Look at Milo Yiannopoulos, who got it.

00:25:55.000 What violent group was he supporting?

00:25:56.000 He got taken down because he was mean to some actor.

00:25:58.000 No, no, he got taken down because he posted fake tweets.

00:26:02.000 He got taken down because of he made fun of what's her name from SNL.

00:26:02.000 That's wrong.

00:26:08.000 That's not because of fake tweets.

00:26:09.000 That's because he sicked his followers.

00:26:11.000 Even Twitter confirms this was because of the harassment of Leslie Jones.

00:26:15.000 Yeah, he sicked his followers on them and he broke the TOS with fake tweets.

00:26:19.000 That's, as far as I'm concerned, that's a That's breaking free speech.

00:26:26.000 What?

00:26:27.000 Fake tweets?

00:26:28.000 What do you mean?

00:26:30.000 What do you mean by fake tweets?

00:26:32.000 He posted a tweet that was like a forgery?

00:26:35.000 He posted fake screenshots of tweets.

00:26:37.000 That's not against the terms of services, my friend.

00:26:41.000 I'm very familiar with the term.

00:26:42.000 I see it happen all the time.

00:26:44.000 And he didn't get banned because he posted a fake tweet.

00:26:48.000 He got banned because he was tweeting at Leslie Jones.

00:26:51.000 And as a result of what he was tweeting, His followers did.

00:26:54.000 Now, I've seen it happen before where people explicitly say, Go after this guy, go after that guy, and I report them and they don't get kicked off for targeted harassment.

00:27:03.000 And Milo, wait, wait, but Milo didn't say that.

00:27:05.000 Milo just tweeted at them and as a result of him tweeting at her, people tweeted.

00:27:09.000 It's not like he called them and he got kicked for targeted harassment anyway.

00:27:13.000 So, your argument. 1.00

00:27:15.000 That's why you don't do that shit. 0.99

00:27:16.000 Celebrities, because celebrities can just ask Twitter to take down anyone who's making it. 0.99

00:27:20.000 Okay, but so your argument that.

00:27:22.000 So, here, do you see how the goalposts are moving?

00:27:25.000 It goes from.

00:27:26.000 Well, everyone's affected equally to.

00:27:28.000 Well, your guys get taken down for the right reasons, to.

00:27:31.000 Well, it was fake.

00:27:32.000 Oh, well, actually, you shouldn't have.

00:27:34.000 Certain people.

00:27:34.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:27:35.000 Certain people.

00:27:36.000 But yeah, these are all over the place here.

00:27:38.000 Yeah, well, we're talking about a case by case basis here.

00:27:41.000 And in this situation.

00:27:42.000 Well, because you said in every case, the top people have been taken out.

00:27:47.000 I never said in every case.

00:27:49.000 You could rewind the tape.

00:27:53.000 You said all the people that got taken down.

00:27:55.000 You said all the top people that got taken down were taken down because of violence.

00:27:59.000 And I said American Renaissance, which is one example.

00:28:02.000 And you said, oh, well, I think, and you made that up, that they're connected to eugenicists.

00:28:07.000 I can't remember the specific.

00:28:08.000 Of American relations.

00:28:09.000 Okay, well then I say, okay, what about Milo?

00:28:10.000 Oh, well, that was something else.

00:28:12.000 Milo was years ago, though.

00:28:15.000 That was not the specific Twitter ban I was talking about.

00:28:18.000 So, was there a statute of limitations?

00:28:20.000 I mean, did they allow him to come back that I didn't know about?

00:28:23.000 No, but my point is that I was talking about a very specific Twitter ban that was people associated with violence.

00:28:31.000 Well, how about James Alsop then?

00:28:33.000 James Alsop got his verification stripped and banned.

00:28:37.000 There were many people.

00:28:37.000 And so what?

00:28:38.000 Faith Goldie was at Charlottesville.

00:28:40.000 You had people.

00:28:41.000 I was in Charlottesville.

00:28:42.000 He got kicked off, and it seems pretty arbitrary, doesn't it?

00:28:44.000 He got de verified and then banned.

00:28:46.000 He got banned because he said something off color to Elliot Hamilton.

00:28:51.000 And as far as I'm concerned, it wasn't even hate speech.

00:28:53.000 And so this is all to say I mean, you say like there's some kind of equal playing field that hurts the left and right equally.

00:28:59.000 You know, obviously it doesn't.

00:29:01.000 If you wanted a Patreon, you could have a Patreon.

00:29:03.000 You say you don't, but if you wanted to, you would have it.

00:29:06.000 Many people look at Chapo Trap House. 1.00

00:29:07.000 I don't think RTPs are any shit. 1.00

00:29:10.000 What's that? 1.00

00:29:11.000 I'm not like.

00:29:12.000 I'm not like throwing flares at refugee boats. 0.85

00:29:17.000 Neither did Faith Goldie. 0.89

00:29:18.000 Neither did I.

00:29:19.000 I got kicked off Patreon.

00:29:22.000 Wait.

00:29:23.000 Faith Goldie wasn't.

00:29:23.000 Oh, no, no.

00:29:24.000 No, no. 0.99

00:29:25.000 That was Lauren Southern who was doing that.

00:29:27.000 Oh, no.

00:29:28.000 I was just wondering if she was at the Generation Identity group either.

00:29:31.000 No, she was.

00:29:32.000 No, I think she was.

00:29:34.000 She's been taken off because of the 14 words.

00:29:36.000 Right?

00:29:36.000 Yeah.

00:29:37.000 Yeah.

00:29:38.000 Again, the substance of that is innocuous, don't you think?

00:29:41.000 No.

00:29:43.000 No.

00:29:43.000 What's wrong with the substance of the 14 words?

00:29:46.000 It's the implications of the substance.

00:29:48.000 Like, as far as.

00:29:49.000 No, no, because here's the thing.

00:29:51.000 What does.

00:29:52.000 No, but what does we must secure the existence of our people mean? 1.00

00:29:55.000 And a future for white children. 0.98

00:29:57.000 I think it means the same thing as Black Lives Matter. 0.93

00:29:59.000 To me, it means the same thing as Black Lives Matter, but for white people. 0.74

00:30:03.000 So you guys have White Lives Matter. 0.60

00:30:06.000 What's with you on Black Lives Matter respectively? 0.66

00:30:08.000 I think, well, if you want to talk about Black Lives Matter, I think that there are cop killers, right?

00:30:13.000 I think Black Lives Matter.

00:30:14.000 I think there's a broad notion of that.

00:30:16.000 Are you? 1.00

00:30:17.000 So you're the white version of cop killers. 1.00

00:30:18.000 Okay. 1.00

00:30:19.000 No, no, I think if you look at the.

00:30:21.000 Again, we're talking about substance.

00:30:24.000 David, we're talking about substance.

00:30:26.000 Black Lives Matter.

00:30:27.000 Do you disagree with that statement? 1.00

00:30:28.000 Do you think Black Lives Matter?

00:30:30.000 Yeah, of course they do.

00:30:31.000 Okay, I believe that too. 0.84

00:30:33.000 The substance of the 14 words is effectively that White Lives Matter. 0.70

00:30:36.000 It's saying we have to secure the existence of our people, we need to make sure that our people are still here, and a future for our people.

00:30:43.000 I mean, is that not effective?

00:30:44.000 If you said, hey, To a black person, do you think it's important that we secure the future for black people and a future for black children?

00:30:51.000 Do you think that would be a controversial thing to say? 0.98

00:30:55.000 Well, there's a difference between our people. 0.81

00:30:58.000 In that context, you're talking about securing the existence of the white race and keeping racial purity. 0.85

00:31:06.000 That's what the actual implications of those words were. 0.82

00:31:08.000 When the guy who made them, the guy who came up with that phrase, that was what he meant by it.

00:31:14.000 So you're talking about connotations.

00:31:16.000 You're talking about connotations.

00:31:17.000 Yeah, okay.

00:31:19.000 The connotations are important with that kind of phrase, don't you think?

00:31:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:23.000 I think the substance is much more important, you know, because we look at what's happening to, and this is what they're explicitly saying about the European population. 0.71

00:31:32.000 They're talking about in the future, there won't even be any white people.

00:31:35.000 I mean, they celebrate this in Canada. 0.67

00:31:37.000 They say there's a government sponsored video where they say the future is beige and that kind of stuff.

00:31:43.000 I mean, so if we're talking about context.

00:31:46.000 As cringy as that video was, that's because normies don't understand biology. 0.69

00:31:52.000 Like dominant and recessive genes, there's never going to be zero white people until the human race starts dying out. 0.82

00:31:58.000 Well, let's talk about in 2100 when it's predicted that in Canada, white people will be 23% of the population just based on current projections. 0.98

00:32:07.000 Well, in 100 years, they will have gone from about 100 to 23. 0.64

00:32:11.000 I mean, it's about trajectory, David.

00:32:13.000 You don't see where that's going?

00:32:15.000 Trajectories change.

00:32:17.000 And even then, who cares?

00:32:19.000 Who cares?

00:32:21.000 So, okay, well, let's say, let's entertain that point for a moment. 0.94

00:32:25.000 Well, the trajectory of the white race is to extinction, and trajectories change. 0.97

00:32:29.000 Who cares? 0.86

00:32:30.000 What if we were to say the same thing about what if that were happening to minorities? 0.62

00:32:34.000 What if that were happening to the Jewish group? 0.67

00:32:37.000 And they were going extinct. 1.00

00:32:38.000 That people are like, who cares?

00:32:40.000 Okay, so, but how were they going extinct?

00:32:42.000 Were they being actively killed or were they just not having sex?

00:32:44.000 I'm not talking about 70 years ago. 0.99

00:32:45.000 I'm talking about, let's say hypothetically, we were to replace the conditions of whites and Jews currently. 0.99

00:32:51.000 And we were to say, oh, well, in this present context, Jews were going extinct in the same way. 0.96

00:32:57.000 And I'm not talking about what happened 70 years ago. 1.00

00:32:59.000 If you want, we could trade it out with blacks. 1.00

00:33:01.000 You're talking about race mixing and having, and just lower birth rates then. 1.00

00:33:06.000 Mass immigration. 0.96

00:33:07.000 Well, it's not just lower birth rates, it's mass immigration, high fertility rates. 0.83

00:33:11.000 The subsidization of higher birth rates and race mixing.

00:33:14.000 I mean, if that were happening, do you think people would so cavalierly say, well, you know, black people will be a very, very tiny minority, you know, a small, small fraction of what they are now in 100 years, globally, not just within one country. 0.66

00:33:28.000 And, well, who cares if they go away?

00:33:31.000 I mean, you would be called, I think you would be called the white supremacist if you said that.

00:33:34.000 Do you think that'd be the case?

00:33:36.000 No.

00:33:37.000 You don't think so?

00:33:38.000 Well, I don't think you're being entirely honest.

00:33:40.000 The further left you go, like, the more anti Israel and, um, Like you go anyway.

00:33:45.000 So, like, this whole idea that suddenly we'd be okay with, we would just not be okay with Jews, less Jews existing because they didn't have kids and start race mixing or something sounds anti Semitic to me. 0.83

00:34:03.000 As far as I know, Jews actually do marry out more, like statistically more than white people do. 0.74

00:34:10.000 I'm not totally sure about that in America, but I mean, regardless of that fact, if you have a Jewish wife, The child is considered Jewish anyway. 0.86

00:34:17.000 Yeah, well, that's exactly the problem then. 0.53

00:34:19.000 So you've got a different way of defining what Jew is.

00:34:22.000 It's sort of like this weird amalgamation of ethno religious identity.

00:34:27.000 So it's not something that can really be considered the same thing. 0.97

00:34:30.000 True.

00:34:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:32.000 Well, then let's say it's blacks then. 1.00

00:34:34.000 Let's say that blacks are headed towards that trajectory. 1.00

00:34:36.000 And because black is not an ethno religious category, I mean, they have no religious tradition governing what's considered black or not. 0.99

00:34:43.000 I mean, let's say all the melanin.

00:34:45.000 Ceases to exist, and instead of by 2100 there being 9 billion Africans as there's projected to be, there's 9 billion Europeans, and blacks are a tiny. 0.92

00:34:55.000 I mean, don't you think there would be a big public outcry? 0.98

00:34:57.000 Don't if that were the case, don't you think there probably would be some people?

00:35:00.000 But I'm okay, some people are hypocrites, doesn't matter, doesn't change the fact that as far as I'm concerned, wouldn't I?

00:35:09.000 It wouldn't bother me if none of it's all being done with just general, um, if it's all being done because of people's choices and um, and because like.

00:35:20.000 Through completely harmless means, then that's fine by me.

00:35:22.000 I don't care.

00:35:22.000 Well, there you have it.

00:35:23.000 David Sherrod, completely okay with the extinction of the black race. 1.00

00:35:28.000 Hey, you said it, man, not me. 1.00

00:35:32.000 Well, you know, here, and I think this is really just it.

00:35:35.000 And this is something I think a lot of people don't understand.

00:35:38.000 There are a great deal of people like yourself who really don't care if white people go away.

00:35:43.000 You think that, and I hope I'm not putting words in your mouth, but you think that the ancestry, the culture, the tradition, you think if all that goes away, as long as it's through, I guess, choices, and I don't know who chose to make it this way, but through voluntary choices.

00:35:58.000 It's not necessarily the ancestry, culture, and tradition going away that's.

00:36:03.000 That's really the concern.

00:36:05.000 It's just, well, why do we have to attach ourselves to this ancestry, culture, and tradition when we can just take the good parts and get away with the bad stuff?

00:36:16.000 Well, I don't think it's that simple.

00:36:18.000 I mean, how do we know what's the good part and what's the bad part?

00:36:22.000 According to what standard?

00:36:23.000 Who's to say what is good and what's bad?

00:36:25.000 I think what we found over the past 100 years is a great folly in thinking that we could do that.

00:36:29.000 I mean, 100 years ago or maybe 200 years ago, we subtracted religion.

00:36:34.000 Has that worked out better or for worse? 0.90

00:36:37.000 Do you think we're in a better, you think we're in a worse place than we were 100 years ago?

00:36:41.000 I think that we're about to realize just how bad a place we're in compared to 100 years ago.

00:36:46.000 Absolutely.

00:36:47.000 100 years ago, we just ended a world war.

00:36:50.000 Well, no, 100 years ago, it was, what, 1918?

00:36:54.000 Well, I think World War.

00:36:55.000 We just ended a world war.

00:36:56.000 Had that just concluded.

00:36:57.000 We just ended a world war. 1.00

00:36:59.000 I think it's even better. 1.00

00:37:00.000 Well, I think if you look at wars, do you think that we've ended war, David?

00:37:04.000 Do you think that there won't be any wars in the future?

00:37:06.000 No, we haven't ended war, but actually, if you look at it, Like, less people are dying in war now than ever.

00:37:14.000 True.

00:37:15.000 True.

00:37:15.000 And I agree that.

00:37:17.000 As much as we're in a.

00:37:18.000 As much as, like, yes, we do have these sort of like long running, small scale conflicts, they are small scale.

00:37:25.000 They don't kill as many people.

00:37:26.000 Well, for now.

00:37:27.000 For now.

00:37:27.000 I mean, you're looking at a very particular cross section in history, which is anomalous, don't you agree, where America is the unipolar power.

00:37:36.000 I think you're going to look at a very different situation as China and other powers rise.

00:37:40.000 Additionally, I don't think you're going to have it as you've had it in this country for the last 20 years and the next 20 years.

00:37:46.000 I think it's going to break down to a severe extent.

00:37:47.000 And anyway, let's say, and let's look at these two things, because this is what progressives will argue.

00:37:52.000 They'll say, well, people are healthier and we're more wealthy and there's less war, and all of that's true.

00:37:58.000 But I guess that's dependent on what you value.

00:38:01.000 I think that if you look at where we are as a society, if that were what we valued, we wouldn't see the suicide rate at an astronomical rate.

00:38:08.000 We wouldn't see drug abuse at an astronomical rate.

00:38:10.000 You wouldn't see all the social ills that you have now, where by and large, a progressive might say that the quality of life has gone down, but.

00:38:18.000 By the actions of the population, quality of life has dipped quite significantly.

00:38:24.000 I think a lot of that is to do with sort of the way the wealth has managed to start coalescing.

00:38:34.000 And the fact that what we're seeing now is we're seeing technology sort of start taking over quicker than we can catch up with it.

00:38:46.000 And I think what, and we're in a momentary situation where the internet has become like practically.

00:38:53.000 Extremely easy for everyone to access.

00:38:56.000 You can't really stop someone from going on the internet nowadays.

00:38:59.000 You can stop them from being on certain sites and posting on social media from a certain identity or whatever, but you can't stop someone from being online.

00:39:07.000 And I think the next couple generations are sort of the first generations to grow up online.

00:39:14.000 And I think as we continue to learn how to best effectively live online, we will.

00:39:25.000 We'll see those drop eventually.

00:39:26.000 We just need to learn how to deal with the new problems that are arising from change.

00:39:30.000 Interesting.

00:39:31.000 Well, you know, look, I see what America looked like 100 years ago.

00:39:35.000 I look at the cities.

00:39:36.000 I look at the people.

00:39:39.000 And I don't understand how people like yourself.

00:39:42.000 Well, I guess I understand.

00:39:43.000 You could look at some of the data regarding very specific things.

00:39:47.000 But by and large, I think if you look at the kind of lives people were living 100 years ago, I don't know anybody could say that this is an improvement.

00:39:55.000 I mean, certainly you are a progressive.

00:39:57.000 Are you a socialist or are you a communist?

00:39:59.000 Where do you stand on all that?

00:40:01.000 I'm actually a filthy social democrat.

00:40:03.000 There's a lot of people who are kind of mad that I'm not a communist.

00:40:07.000 Well, and certainly you, as a social democrat, I imagine would say that there's a lot wrong with a society that we, at least in America, you're in school, you go into college, you're in debt, and you're basically a debt slave then for your entire life.

00:40:20.000 I mean, this is the lives of.

00:40:21.000 As far as I'm concerned, I think that the actual solution to a lot of these problems is sort of pushing forward with sort of left-wing social democratic platforms.

00:40:31.000 Because if you look, Throughout, if you look in the West, then the best, the most happy countries in the Western world are socially democratic nations.

00:40:41.000 Like which ones?

00:40:43.000 Like the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden.

00:40:46.000 Sweden.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, even Sweden.

00:40:48.000 Denmark.

00:40:49.000 Do you mind telling me what the demographics of those countries are?

00:40:52.000 Do you have that off the top of your head?

00:40:54.000 Oh, yeah, okay.

00:40:55.000 We're going to go down that route.

00:40:57.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:40:59.000 Because, well, and that's just the point, though.

00:41:01.000 Those kinds of systems, which are more, I think, definitely more traditional.

00:41:07.000 Are only possible in societies that are homogeneous.

00:41:09.000 They're only possible in societies where, in Sweden, for example, and I've read extensively about their welfare system, the reason that it was able to go better than in most countries.

00:41:18.000 It's a big misconception that it's flawless and it's stellar and all the rest, but the reason it was able to work there better than in most countries and why they were so optimistic about it is because they are so close to one another in culture and ancestry.

00:41:32.000 I mean, they virtually see everyone in the country as part of an extended family.

00:41:36.000 And that's where you're able to get it to work somewhat better than in other countries.

00:41:40.000 And all I'm saying is, This progressive ideal.

00:41:43.000 I'm not saying I'm not like a Luddite.

00:41:45.000 Well, there's some primitivist streak perhaps in me from reading Kaczynski, but barring the medicinal and technological improvements which have happened the last 200 years, I don't think you could point to any other way, shape, or form in which the quality of life is better now than it was back then, barring those technological improvements and changes which are in medicine and in other things.

00:42:09.000 And so, as a progressive, you say, well, we can pick and choose the old things which are bad.

00:42:15.000 You really can show that people are doing better now.

00:42:20.000 And you've also got to remember that, as much as you're talking about things like suicide rates, suicide rates are not necessarily unaffected by those technological improvements as well.

00:42:33.000 The fact that a young person can understand that suicide even is an option, that's something that people do learn younger nowadays.

00:42:42.000 They don't know about suicide unless they have internet access.

00:42:46.000 No, no, not necessarily.

00:42:47.000 They just learn about it quicker.

00:42:49.000 Interesting.

00:42:50.000 I disagree with that.

00:42:51.000 I think people understand.

00:42:53.000 I mean, it's not like it's a new concept.

00:42:56.000 There are people killing themselves in the Bible, right?

00:42:59.000 Oh, of course.

00:42:59.000 Yeah, of course.

00:43:01.000 But I think seeing it as an option has become a bit more of an act of desperation recently, just due to a lot of different factors.

00:43:11.000 We can go into those.

00:43:12.000 Well, and they found that.

00:43:14.000 But I think the idea that just attaching these to some kind of racial, like, Some kind of racial demographic thing just misses the point entirely.

00:43:24.000 It's not totally racial. 0.94

00:43:25.000 It's rape. 0.94

00:43:26.000 Well, here's how you can tie it very easily.

00:43:29.000 We find that the suicides are almost all accounted for by deaths of desperation, which means loneliness or that kind of thing, effectively. 0.62

00:43:39.000 I mean, we see that the highest increases are in white middle aged men, and that's because they've seen their customs, traditions, and communities collapse. 0.72

00:43:47.000 And we can attribute that. 0.51

00:43:49.000 I don't think it's entirely that.

00:43:52.000 I think it's, and the reason those rates are so high for white middle aged men is actually very much to do with. 0.56

00:44:00.000 Divorce.

00:44:03.000 And there's a lot of.

00:44:04.000 Hey, in a traditional society, divorce wasn't a big problem because it wasn't an option, right?

00:44:09.000 And so all these things are attributable to this progressive idea of, well, wait, wait, wait, of, well, we don't like marriage too much.

00:44:18.000 You could get divorced if you want.

00:44:19.000 We don't like religion too much.

00:44:21.000 It's too oppressive.

00:44:22.000 We can get rid of it.

00:44:22.000 Anything goes.

00:44:24.000 And we don't really, everybody's okay.

00:44:26.000 Everybody can be in our country.

00:44:27.000 That won't lead to problems down the road.

00:44:29.000 Communities are destroyed.

00:44:31.000 I mean, this is all written about in Bowling Alone.

00:44:34.000 Divorce is something that's centuries old.

00:44:36.000 It was invented by a king.

00:44:38.000 And it has to go away.

00:44:40.000 Well, and if not gone away, it has to be reduced very, very drastically and significantly.

00:44:45.000 But that's a progressive mindset.

00:44:47.000 Well, this is a tradition that we don't like.

00:44:50.000 This is part of the thing, though, that we're living much longer now.

00:44:54.000 So the idea of being in a marriage for as long as people seem to, like your entire life, it seems to be a bad, not necessarily as good an idea.

00:45:07.000 So I think.

00:45:08.000 Maybe, like the fact that if you look at divorce rates, it's always actually, I think it's mostly in red states.

00:45:15.000 It's actually to, because a lot of young kids in those areas, sort of like 16, 17, 18, they're told only have sex in marriage.

00:45:25.000 Only have sex during marriage.

00:45:26.000 Yes, I say that all the time. 0.96

00:45:29.000 So, yeah, well, if you tell that to a young person, they're gonna, and they want to have sex, they're gonna get married. 0.79

00:45:36.000 Good.

00:45:37.000 And they're gonna go and get married to someone that they're, that, They're just horny for not someone that they actually think they're going to have a long term relationship with.

00:45:45.000 Ah, well, and then they get divorced and it ruins lots of lives.

00:45:51.000 So I think we have to totally.

00:45:53.000 Well, and also, but hey, also, you know what else we got rid of which should be reinstated is the idea of arranged marriages to some extent.

00:46:00.000 Maybe there'd be more prudence in the decisions if the parents were involved.

00:46:03.000 You can always trace it back.

00:46:05.000 This is the problem.

00:46:06.000 You want to have the buffet style of civilization where we say, well, we'll have marriage without.

00:46:13.000 Anybody being involved without parents, oh, well, that doesn't really work.

00:46:16.000 So we'll have marriage, but without the long term commitment.

00:46:20.000 They just can't force anything.

00:46:23.000 And so it's all these.

00:46:25.000 If you want this idea of some kind of cultural practice of parents setting you up with kids, yeah, okay, go and tell that to young people that their parents are going to go and find people.

00:46:40.000 I will.

00:46:41.000 And they won't listen to me and they'll end up miserable. 0.90

00:46:43.000 But look. 0.80

00:46:45.000 That's the problem.

00:46:46.000 We've gone down this rabbit hole, and it's the civilizational wide problem where this kind of thinking has led to a society which is completely disjointed, without a foundation, so confusing, we're always coming up with solutions to answer the problems that the previous solutions created.

00:47:03.000 And it's just a tremendous folly where people say, Well, we have to fix this problem, and the fix then becomes the new problem.

00:47:09.000 What's this continuous improvement?

00:47:11.000 This is just the fact that we're living in an imperfect world.

00:47:14.000 Improvements.

00:47:15.000 Yeah.

00:47:16.000 I hardly see it as an improvement.

00:47:19.000 Hardly.

00:47:19.000 And I think you would find that the societies which have rejected these so called improvements are doing far better.

00:47:26.000 I mean, you've pointed to countries that are doing better.

00:47:29.000 We could point to countries that are doing phenomenally well now.

00:47:32.000 For example, China is on the rise.

00:47:35.000 Now, certainly, I don't agree with all this hype about China, but the ascendant powers in the world, whether they be Russia, China, Hungary.

00:47:46.000 China is increasing in economic power and stuff, but.

00:47:51.000 I don't think their populace is exactly happy.

00:47:55.000 They have terrible workers' rights there.

00:47:59.000 You've got extremely authoritarian policies.

00:48:02.000 Those guys censored the internet.

00:48:05.000 You think internet censorship is bad here? 0.86

00:48:08.000 China blows us out of the water, blows everything out of the water when it comes to stuff like that.

00:48:14.000 It's not a great place to live. 0.99

00:48:16.000 But regardless of the details, they are coy.

00:48:20.000 There are places in Europe.

00:48:21.000 You're conflating two issues in one.

00:48:23.000 You're conflating two issues in one.

00:48:25.000 I mean, they've got censorship, sure.

00:48:27.000 But if we're looking at, by and large, the entire society and the societies which are ascendant in this century, the ones that are being held together, it's ones that are held together by those traditional values.

00:48:38.000 I mean, look at the countries that are now thriving compared to Western Europe, for example.

00:48:43.000 Western Europe, which is collapsing into anarchy and there's mass immigration and all the rest, the ones that are thriving in contrast to them are the ones that are re embracing. 0.94

00:48:53.000 You're laughing. 1.00

00:48:54.000 Well, hey, try to walk down a bridge in London without getting blown up.

00:48:58.000 I'm sure it'll be very funny.

00:48:59.000 You look at these societies which are thriving, which don't have those problems.

00:49:05.000 And they're the ones that are embracing tradition in every case.

00:49:09.000 And you can laugh it up, but I don't think it'll be an exaggeration to say that in 50 years, Eastern Europe, Asia will be doing far better than Western Europe, than England, than the countries that have rejected all these things.

00:49:20.000 I think people see that now. 0.81

00:49:22.000 Nick, can I ask you a question?

00:49:24.000 Have you been to London yourself?

00:49:25.000 I've not been to London.

00:49:26.000 I've never left America.

00:49:27.000 There's no need to.

00:49:28.000 We have everything we need right here. 0.99

00:49:30.000 Okay, so don't talk shit about Europe if you don't know anything about it. 0.98

00:49:36.000 I don't want to because it's so dangerous. 0.99

00:49:41.000 It's not a fucking dangerous place. 0.97

00:49:43.000 You can tell that. 0.99

00:49:44.000 Hey, tell that to all the people who got raped in Cologne.

00:49:47.000 Tell that to all the people who got blown up at that concert last year.

00:49:50.000 I mean, I think it's pretty interesting for you to say that kind of a thing.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, okay, but.

00:49:55.000 America has way more murders.

00:49:58.000 Yeah, because there are 330 million people here.

00:50:01.000 And also, we have more murderers.

00:50:03.000 Guess what else we have a lot more of? 0.97

00:50:05.000 Democrats.

00:50:06.000 So, you know, you also have to factor that into it as well.

00:50:08.000 Oh, my God.

00:50:10.000 But no, I think you're missing the fundamental point.

00:50:14.000 The entirety of, yeah, all of America's murders are actually just Obama's drone strikes.

00:50:19.000 I don't even know what that joke is supposed to mean.

00:50:21.000 But look, I like you didn't understand my joke, which is okay.

00:50:27.000 Maybe it's better.

00:50:28.000 Maybe it's better.

00:50:29.000 But.

00:50:29.000 But the point is this.

00:50:31.000 I mean, you're a progressive.

00:50:32.000 You see the UK as being a better society now, excluding the technological, excluding some of the things that have progressed with time.

00:50:43.000 I mean, do you think that the UK is a better society now than it was in the 1890s?

00:50:47.000 Maybe you think it does because they have different values.

00:50:48.000 Yes, definitely.

00:50:50.000 Definitely.

00:50:51.000 Well, I mean, there it is.

00:50:53.000 I guess it just highlights the differences in what.

00:50:55.000 These children were being.

00:50:56.000 Children were like losing limbs in factories.

00:50:59.000 Jesus Christ. 0.65

00:51:00.000 Well, children of property. 0.75

00:51:02.000 You know what else?

00:51:03.000 We also didn't have all the horrible things that we see going on in the UK with the Trump protest. 0.91

00:51:09.000 We don't have these degenerates walking the streets.

00:51:11.000 We don't have marriages and families collapsing, mass suicides all over the place, drug epidemics.

00:51:18.000 I know.

00:51:18.000 No, you're right.

00:51:19.000 I know, industrialization.

00:51:21.000 Drug epidemics have been like part of human history.

00:51:24.000 I'm sorry.

00:51:25.000 Nothing like it is now.

00:51:27.000 Nothing like it is now.

00:51:28.000 If you look at the statistics, it's nothing like it is now.

00:51:30.000 Because of the war on drugs.

00:51:32.000 If you look at your.

00:51:33.000 The war on drugs is causing more people to take pharmaceuticals?

00:51:38.000 How does that make sense?

00:51:40.000 No, not just pharmaceuticals, but it's also making it more dangerous for people to take drugs when they do actually go and get them.

00:51:48.000 It creates a taboo so young people.

00:51:51.000 They think, oh, yeah, it's cool to take drugs.

00:51:52.000 And at the same time, it's hard to get off them.

00:51:55.000 The largest increase in drug abuse has not been with illicit drugs.

00:52:00.000 It's been with pharmaceuticals.

00:52:02.000 Yeah, the pharmaceutical industry is like Big Pharma and all that stuff.

00:52:06.000 That's also a problem.

00:52:08.000 And I think, again, that's something to do with socially democratic reforms because Big Pharma is involved with a lot of money in politics.

00:52:17.000 Oh, yeah, I agree with that.

00:52:19.000 But look, I mean, you're zigzagging between, well, actually, it's because of this.

00:52:22.000 But.

00:52:23.000 Largely, the, I mean, you're saying, again, it's all orders of magnitude.

00:52:26.000 You're saying, well, drugs have always been around, never at this scale.

00:52:30.000 Oh, well, it's because of the war on drugs.

00:52:32.000 Well, the war on drugs has nothing to do with the rise in drug use.

00:52:36.000 Oh, well, actually, it's about social.

00:52:38.000 So it's always moving the goalposts away here.

00:52:41.000 Technology.

00:52:42.000 Always taking the goalposts and just running away with it on these different issues.

00:52:46.000 Yes, and change for the worse.

00:52:49.000 Change for the worse.

00:52:50.000 Not necessarily for the worse.

00:52:53.000 I don't think our problems right now are as big as 100 years ago.

00:52:57.000 Absolutely, they are.

00:52:59.000 And maybe not 100 years ago is relatively arbitrary, but if we're looking at it as a continuum, things from 200 years ago to 100 years ago to present, it has been a downward trend.

00:53:11.000 And I understand what you're saying.

00:53:12.000 You're saying, well, in material conditions, things have gotten better.

00:53:16.000 And that's understandable.

00:53:17.000 With time, there is investment, there is, you know, people are able to create more wealth, there's more people, and that's a given effectively.

00:53:24.000 But if you're trying to say that by and large, we look at what we value in a society, or at least what I value, Which is that people are satisfied, not necessarily happy, but they are fulfilled, that they are satisfied, that they believe that their life matters.

00:53:36.000 It has gone from, and probably rightly believe their lives matter.

00:53:41.000 It goes from 200 years ago all the way down now, where people are just these soulless consumption units.

00:53:49.000 And regardless of what you attribute it to, you see it in the suicide rates, you see it in the drug abuse, you see it in all the horrible things that are happening.

00:53:55.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:53:56.000 That's still a problem. 0.96

00:53:58.000 I don't think it's anywhere near, I still think that, like, Shit's better now, but I'm not saying it's anywhere near perfect.

00:54:05.000 Do you think it can be perfect? 0.87

00:54:05.000 It's like. 0.87

00:54:08.000 No, I don't think it can be perfect, but we can mitigate the problems as we see them.

00:54:13.000 I'm doing my best.

00:54:14.000 You're doing your part.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, trying to do my part.

00:54:17.000 Well, I think that's a good note to close on.

00:54:21.000 I think that summarizes it, but it's been a little unfocused.

00:54:26.000 We've been all over the place, but that's okay.

00:54:28.000 Many topics.

00:54:29.000 It's a good introduction.

00:54:30.000 We'll have to get you back on the show for a proper debate when we.

00:54:34.000 We'll have to tackle one of these subjects.

00:54:35.000 A little earlier.

00:54:36.000 Next time.

00:54:37.000 A little earlier.

00:54:38.000 That's right. 1.00

00:54:39.000 You're a slave. 0.92

00:54:40.000 What time is it in there in Britain? 0.82

00:54:43.000 It's almost 2 o'clock in the morning.

00:54:45.000 I get up at 6 to get to work.

00:54:48.000 That is late. 0.98

00:54:50.000 You're on Britbong time. 0.63

00:54:51.000 Well, it's been good having you.

00:54:51.000 All right.

00:54:53.000 We don't agree on, obviously, the fundamentals.

00:54:56.000 It always goes back to the fundies.

00:54:58.000 But it was good having you anyway.

00:54:59.000 It was a fun conversation, and we'll have to do it again, all right?

00:55:03.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:55:04.000 All right.

00:55:04.000 And hey, Before I go, where can people?

00:55:07.000 It's kind of a different audience, but if there are people interested, where can they find your content?

00:55:13.000 My YouTube channel is Alternative Facts.

00:55:16.000 I'm sure my Twitter handle is AlternaFacts, but the first A is a four.

00:55:25.000 There you go.

00:55:27.000 All right.

00:55:28.000 Well, thanks for coming on.

00:55:29.000 Thanks for being a good sport.

00:55:30.000 We'll see you soon.

00:55:31.000 All right.

00:55:32.000 Yeah, it's been great banter.

00:55:33.000 All right.

00:55:34.000 Take it easy, big guy.

00:55:35.000 You too.

00:55:35.000 Later.

00:55:37.000 Well, that was fun.

00:55:37.000 All right.

00:55:38.000 That was fun and civil, I think.

00:55:40.000 Usually, I don't like to talk to the lefties because I'm a big believer that.

00:55:46.000 Generally speaking, it comes to that impasse.

00:55:48.000 And you see that very quickly it does come to that impasse of he thinks that this is an improvement based on his values.

00:55:56.000 And his values are clearly the material.

00:55:59.000 And I think people watch this show see what's gone on over the last 100 years.

00:56:03.000 And despite the problems, and there were problems back then, we see that things have degenerated in the areas that we value.

00:56:10.000 So that's why I tend to see those kinds of conversations as coming to an impasse.

00:56:16.000 And I think that's what happened with that last discussion.

00:56:18.000 But.

00:56:19.000 I think it's good anyway.

00:56:20.000 I think it's good fun.

00:56:21.000 It's good banter.

00:56:22.000 People like to see the disagreement.

00:56:24.000 Because, you know, all my guests, usually I bring on the show, there's like 100% total agreement.

00:56:30.000 And, you know, it's just, I agree.

00:56:32.000 I agree.

00:56:33.000 That's a great point.

00:56:34.000 Oh, you know, this and that.

00:56:35.000 I agree with what you said here.

00:56:37.000 So it's good to have people on.

00:56:39.000 But we'll have to get them on for like a serious debate.

00:56:42.000 We were on, I mean, where do we even begin?

00:56:44.000 We started with PayPal, and there was no like formal conclusion to that segment.

00:56:49.000 It just went from PayPal right into progressivism into.

00:56:54.000 All over the place.

00:56:55.000 So we'll have to find a proper debate where we can define the parameters and all the rest. 0.69

00:57:01.000 I know a lot of people said, oh, he's a troll.

00:57:01.000 But he's fun.

00:57:03.000 He's this, he's that. 1.00

00:57:04.000 But I think we're both shit posters. 1.00

00:57:06.000 I think lefties aren't as good at it. 0.99

00:57:07.000 But you could see he was friendly, and it's good to talk to people like that.

00:57:11.000 So we'll see.

00:57:13.000 We're going to bring on now.

00:57:15.000 It's been an hour, but you know what?

00:57:16.000 I think, why don't we bring on some people for a little call in action?

00:57:19.000 Do you think we should do that?

00:57:20.000 Do you think I should start taking some calls?

00:57:23.000 And we'll get some reaction, maybe some questions, comments.

00:57:27.000 Then we'll take some Super Chat, some Streamlabs.

00:57:29.000 Before I do that, however, I'll set up the call right now.

00:57:32.000 I'll jump in the call in show lobby.

00:57:35.000 I don't want to share a link to the Discord because I'm sure we have a lot of left wing people in here.

00:57:41.000 So if you're in the Discord already, we'll be doing a call in show.

00:57:47.000 I do want to make an announcement before I switch over to the calls, while I have you here.

00:57:51.000 We have a big guest next Friday.

00:57:54.000 I'm going to announce him right now.

00:57:56.000 Huge guest.

00:57:59.000 Now, there's been a huge phenomenon going around the internet, and it is The Bronze Age Mindset, the book which has shaken the world by The Bronze Age Pervert, of course.

00:58:11.000 I just ordered it this week, it just arrived this morning.

00:58:15.000 And I wanted to book The Bronze Age Pervert, I really did, but he can't do it for reasons of anonymity.

00:58:21.000 And so it wasn't going to happen.

00:58:23.000 I invited him like months ago.

00:58:25.000 He said, I'd really love to come on, but I can't do it because.

00:58:30.000 If you heard my voice, it would be so easy to dox me.

00:58:34.000 And so he said, that's unfortunate.

00:58:35.000 We can't get him on the show.

00:58:36.000 But then we figured out a solution. 0.70

00:58:38.000 And so next Friday, in the place of Bronze Age Pervert, representing him, and they'll discuss answers beforehand, they'll discuss questions beforehand, we will be having on the legendary Mike Ma. 0.77

00:58:52.000 And he will be serving as a representative for Bronze Age Pervert. 0.78

00:58:56.000 We'll be talking Bronze Age mindset, among other things.

00:58:58.000 That'll be next Friday.

00:59:00.000 So it'll be a huge show.

00:59:02.000 I know everybody's very excited.

00:59:04.000 This has been.

00:59:05.000 Everybody's reading this book.

00:59:06.000 Notch is reading this book.

00:59:08.000 Patrick Casey's reading it.

00:59:09.000 Cernovich is reading it.

00:59:11.000 Everybody's reading it.

00:59:12.000 So, we don't have Bronze Age Pervert, but we've got the next best thing Mike Ma speaking as Bronze Age Pervert.

00:59:20.000 And then also on Wednesday, we have Mr. Medeker will be joining us.

00:59:25.000 So, it'll be a pretty stacked week.

00:59:26.000 You've got to tune in next week.

00:59:28.000 Two very big guests Mr. Medeker on Wednesday, huge YouTuber.

00:59:32.000 He does the Meadowcasts, which are wildly popular, more popular than any of the blood sports ever.

00:59:38.000 So, he'll be coming on Wednesday to do a little shitposting.

00:59:41.000 And then Friday, we'll have Michael Ma. 0.96

00:59:43.000 As a messenger for Bronze Age perverts. 0.93

00:59:45.000 So it'll be a huge, huge week for America First. 0.99

00:59:48.000 But with that announcement out of the way, we are going to start taking some calls.

00:59:56.000 I've got to put the dreadful headset back on.

01:00:00.000 You know, I'm not wild about the headset, it makes my head hurt, it makes my ears hurt.

01:00:05.000 But we got to do it.

01:00:06.000 We got to do it for the show.

01:00:08.000 So we're going to start taking some of your calls here on the show.

01:00:11.000 Let me just make sure we're all set up for it.

01:00:15.000 Okay, so I'm going to start dragging people in.

01:00:18.000 Why don't we bring in for our first caller, let's bring in Joe the Boomer.

01:00:21.000 It's been a while since we've heard from him.

01:00:25.000 Hello, Joe.

01:00:26.000 What's going on, big guy?

01:00:27.000 Hello, folks.

01:00:28.000 Looks like we've got our first caller, Mr. Nicholas J. Fuentes.

01:00:32.000 Welcome to the Daily Brap, Nick.

01:00:34.000 What's your question for us today?

01:00:37.000 Oh, well, it's so good to be on the Daily Brap.

01:00:40.000 Wow, I've been dying to get in.

01:00:42.000 It would have been better if I had my mic muted and my headphones deafened, right?

01:00:46.000 No.

01:00:47.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:00:48.000 What question do you have for us tonight, big fella?

01:00:50.000 Me and my co host, Mr. I Am Hiding.

01:00:54.000 Well, how's it going on the Daily Brab?

01:00:54.000 Oh, boy.

01:00:56.000 I just wanted to ask you, Mr. Joe, explain to us your new podcast, the fan created podcast.

01:01:04.000 Well, we went through sort of an evolution.

01:01:06.000 We were up like three or four in the morning one night.

01:01:08.000 We were like, we should do a show.

01:01:10.000 Maybe we'll call it the official Nick Fuentes fan club show.

01:01:14.000 But then we were like, I don't know about that.

01:01:17.000 So they were like, you know, well, what about the Daily Brap?

01:01:20.000 I kind of like that.

01:01:21.000 It's catchy.

01:01:21.000 It sticks, you know?

01:01:24.000 I like the Daily Brap.

01:01:25.000 I like that name.

01:01:26.000 I don't think it's too bad.

01:01:27.000 I think it's pretty good.

01:01:29.000 And we had a really, really good show last night.

01:01:31.000 We went for about three hours, maybe a little too long, not too much format, but we had a good time.

01:01:36.000 We had a good time.

01:01:38.000 I'm glad you're getting into the podcast thing.

01:01:38.000 I'm glad to hear it.

01:01:41.000 Very good.

01:01:41.000 We had special guests last night.

01:01:43.000 Mr. Simon Sasquatch showed up.

01:01:45.000 That was pretty cool.

01:01:46.000 Mr. Sharia LaBouffe.

01:01:48.000 And special guest, Nicholas J. Fuentes.

01:01:51.000 What an event.

01:01:51.000 Wow.

01:01:52.000 What a show.

01:01:53.000 It's good to hear everything's going well.

01:01:55.000 Oh, it was great.

01:01:56.000 I can't wait for tonight's show.

01:01:58.000 Maybe you'll drop by again.

01:01:58.000 It's going to be good.

01:02:01.000 Perhaps.

01:02:02.000 I'll go over to 7 Eleven.

01:02:07.000 I'll get some Monster Zero Ultra and I'll jump on for a late night stream.

01:02:13.000 How's that?

01:02:14.000 Yeah, that sounds amazing, Nick.

01:02:16.000 It'll be fun.

01:02:17.000 I think so.

01:02:18.000 Well, do you have a question for me or is that all?

01:02:18.000 All right.

01:02:20.000 You've got to move on to your other colleagues.

01:02:22.000 Well, I want to talk about the Second Amendment.

01:02:24.000 Tonight, Nick.

01:02:28.000 I think a lot of people, you know, well, no, on a serious note, what was it?

01:02:35.000 Vegas and then the Florida school shooting.

01:02:38.000 People were up in arms about Trump, you know, oh, he's going to do a bump stock thing.

01:02:42.000 He's going to do this.

01:02:43.000 He's open to that.

01:02:44.000 You know, people were like, you know, he's going to cave into gun control.

01:02:49.000 And how many months has it been?

01:02:50.000 And there's nothing.

01:02:52.000 Nothing. 0.91

01:02:52.000 We've got two Supreme Court justices and no gun control. 0.91

01:02:56.000 He hasn't done a damn thing for gun control. 0.70

01:02:58.000 It was all bluster. 0.58

01:02:59.000 It was all showmanship.

01:03:01.000 And there's nothing.

01:03:02.000 No gun control, nothing.

01:03:04.000 That's right. 0.91

01:03:05.000 Well, and that's true with just about everything. 1.00

01:03:08.000 I know gun control is your favorite issue, which rightly so. 1.00

01:03:11.000 It's a great issue.

01:03:12.000 But I mean, that's on everything Syria, gun control, Iran, Russia, North Korea, immigration.

01:03:19.000 I mean, you name it.

01:03:20.000 Trump hasn't cucked on anything.

01:03:22.000 And all the people seven months ago, nothing.

01:03:25.000 And all the people like two or three months ago who were saying half term president, one term president, amnesty done, all this stuff, nowhere to be found, right?

01:03:35.000 They're gone.

01:03:38.000 They're dead in the streets.

01:03:38.000 They're gone.

01:03:40.000 And we've sent their kids away from their homes.

01:03:42.000 That's right.

01:03:43.000 They've been shipped out.

01:03:44.000 Well, oh goodness, it's been fun, Nick.

01:03:48.000 I hope we get to see you on the daily brap tonight.

01:03:51.000 Should be fun, hopefully.

01:03:53.000 I'll try to join you.

01:03:54.000 All right, it'll be a good time, should be interesting, but I'll let you get back to your callers.

01:03:58.000 I don't want to take up too much time.

01:04:00.000 I know it's been a long time since I called in, and it has been.

01:04:03.000 It's good to hear from you.

01:04:05.000 All right, well, take it easy, Mr. Joe.

01:04:07.000 We love you.

01:04:07.000 All right, take care, Nick.

01:04:09.000 Bye.

01:04:10.000 Bye bye.

01:04:13.000 Good old Joe the boomer, you know.

01:04:14.000 It's uh That's the thing about America First.

01:04:17.000 It's like, what's that show? 0.95

01:04:19.000 What's that show that old people watch? 0.99

01:04:21.000 It's like Cheers. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Everybody knows your name.

01:04:24.000 You know, you come to America First on the Friday show, it's all your favorite cast of characters.

01:04:30.000 It's Nick, your favorite host.

01:04:33.000 It's, what's his name?

01:04:35.000 Vic Berger, Joe the Boomer, Bo Bop.

01:04:39.000 All our favorites.

01:04:42.000 And let's see who we got.

01:04:43.000 Who else is coming in tonight?

01:04:45.000 Why don't we bring in Mr. Biker Bandito?

01:04:49.000 What's going on, Mr. Biker?

01:04:51.000 How's it going?

01:04:53.000 Good evening, Nick.

01:04:54.000 How's it going, big guy?

01:04:56.000 It is going well.

01:04:57.000 How's it going with you, my friend?

01:04:59.000 It is going exceedingly well.

01:05:02.000 It is 4 a.m. in Bulgaria.

01:05:04.000 I was burning the midnight oil.

01:05:07.000 Ah, good.

01:05:08.000 Midnight oil.

01:05:11.000 Very good.

01:05:11.000 What is the midnight oil?

01:05:15.000 Just doing some work because I'm self employed.

01:05:18.000 Gotcha.

01:05:19.000 Very good.

01:05:20.000 Very good.

01:05:20.000 Well, good to hear you're joining us late at night or early in the morning, depending on how you look at it.

01:05:27.000 What's on your mind?

01:05:29.000 Well, I'd say I have two basic questions.

01:05:33.000 The first one is regarding your guest, and it seems like there are two very key things that he doesn't really seem to believe in.

01:05:48.000 Now, obviously, the biggest one is you know, he's probably an atheist or something like that.

01:05:52.000 But one thing that he seems to believe is that, uh, you is what you phrased is he believes in this sort of buffet that in order to be free, you don't need to have any responsibilities.

01:06:10.000 And the second one is that, uh, is that simply not feeling pain or not feeling any type of hindrance is an improvement when.

01:06:22.000 And he said this particularly when he said, Oh, but there used to be kids in factories.

01:06:29.000 Well, even though that was a bad thing, people still had their key values, and that was a very character building thing to go through at that time.

01:06:44.000 So I guess my first question really is how can you convince someone like that to really To start believing more in that type of self determination and maybe even in God eventually?

01:07:03.000 Well, it's difficult because I'm getting kind of some kind of weird feedback.

01:07:07.000 I don't know if it's my headphones or what, but it's difficult because we've been so thoroughly indoctrinated into modernism that I think that is the reaction of almost anybody to perennialism, to traditionalism, is to say, you know, well, of course it's better now.

01:07:23.000 They had bad things 100 years ago, like war and slavery and, you know, this and that.

01:07:29.000 And that's all true. 0.97

01:07:30.000 I mean, don't get me wrong.

01:07:31.000 We're not saying that at any time anything was perfect.

01:07:33.000 In fact, We're arguing quite the opposite.

01:07:35.000 We're saying that things can never be perfect, but we're making the wrong trade offs.

01:07:40.000 And so, people like David Sherrod, they want to throw out, like you say, they want to throw out that old wisdom and adopt the buffet style where I like this thing, this thing makes me feel good.

01:07:51.000 This thing doesn't hurt so much, so I like it.

01:07:54.000 And they will be very quick to point out when things were more structured, when things were more functional, when things were more viable, they had a better chance to stand the test of time.

01:08:04.000 I'd like to point out and critique the little things.

01:08:06.000 You know, I'm not exactly a defender of the Industrial Revolution, but let's take it a step back and say, what about farmers?

01:08:13.000 Was it a better lifestyle for children to be on a farm where they were getting up early, working all day, they lived a wholesome life that is on the land, and they knew what they were eating, and they went to church on Sunday, and they were getting a great education, in some sense, better than the education kids are getting now?

01:08:29.000 If you look at the totality of it, the whole picture, as opposed to this gotcha of, oh, well, there was something bad going on.

01:08:36.000 There's horrible things happening now that they don't point to.

01:08:40.000 They like to minimize the bad things happening now drug epidemic, suicide epidemic, rampant degeneracy, families collapsing.

01:08:47.000 We can't even reproduce.

01:08:49.000 Society isn't even self sustaining.

01:08:51.000 Oh, well, that's not a big deal.

01:08:53.000 It's a work in progress.

01:08:55.000 Oh, but when the kids were working, sometimes there were accidents.

01:08:59.000 I can't.

01:09:00.000 It's horrible.

01:09:00.000 There were wars, you know, and so that's all.

01:09:04.000 And you're so smart and developed that you can't even reproduce.

01:09:07.000 Right, exactly.

01:09:08.000 And that's really what got me.

01:09:10.000 If a society cannot complete its main task, its most primordial objective, which is to sustain itself, I mean, in that sense, it's not even like a living organism.

01:09:23.000 And that's how you define life, is something that's able to sustain itself and reproduce.

01:09:27.000 Then you've got nothing.

01:09:29.000 No matter how good the healthcare technology is, no matter how good the falafel is, you don't have anything.

01:09:35.000 So, great question.

01:09:37.000 But.

01:09:38.000 We just have to get people thinking differently about progress.

01:09:41.000 But what were you saying?

01:09:42.000 Oh, I just wanted to say, like, for example, if you want to be an Olympic level swimmer, 99.9% of your life is just going to be eat, sleep, and train.

01:09:53.000 But you are free to pursue that type of choice.

01:09:57.000 And if you do want to have a society that doesn't have divorce, that, you know, has any type of basic values, you do need to have some very, very strict societal rules.

01:10:12.000 And it seems that the guest mainly was kind of spurking out that, oh, but then you're not really free.

01:10:18.000 Right.

01:10:19.000 That's the problem, is freedom, you know?

01:10:21.000 I mean, look, it's a big difference between freedom and liberty.

01:10:24.000 Freedom says you can have all these different options, you can have a hundred varieties of shampoo and you can pick any one.

01:10:32.000 And liberty says we are able to exercise our rights because we are responsible.

01:10:38.000 You don't necessarily have total and complete freedom.

01:10:41.000 You know, I mean, effectively, you really can do whatever you want, you'd have consequences.

01:10:46.000 But liberty, true liberty that the founders talked about, was derived from responsibility, discipline, virtue.

01:10:54.000 And you can't have one without the other.

01:10:56.000 They like to have something for nothing.

01:10:58.000 They like to have all this free stuff, great society.

01:11:02.000 It works in everything.

01:11:04.000 But we don't actually have to put up anything on the other end.

01:11:07.000 It's just a given or entitled, you know, and that's the problem.

01:11:11.000 True.

01:11:12.000 True.

01:11:12.000 Could I throw in a very quick question about Cenk Huger?

01:11:16.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:11:17.000 Sure.

01:11:17.000 Very quick.

01:11:18.000 Right.

01:11:18.000 Do you think that Cenk Huger believes his own stuff?

01:11:22.000 Because if you look at him, he's educated, he's a lawyer.

01:11:27.000 In his early writings, he's like this super conservative.

01:11:32.000 He was almost like you in a lot of ways.

01:11:36.000 So, do you think that Cenk Huber is.

01:11:41.000 He's sort of like a buffoon who spouts certain talking points, or do you think he's a bit more of an intelligent propagandist?

01:11:54.000 That's a good question. 0.75

01:11:57.000 It's really tough to say because I will tell you, as somebody who.

01:12:00.000 Is like a commentator, is a pundit.

01:12:03.000 There are, and you realize it when you become a pundit, it's very easy to fall into the trap of being a mouthpiece for an agenda or for an ideology.

01:12:14.000 It's very easy once you become comfortable on air to go on and just let the talking points do it for you or to come on and just do your part to further an agenda or to smell your farts and think they don't stink like Cenk Uger does.

01:12:29.000 So it's really difficult to say.

01:12:31.000 You know, he doesn't peg me as a very intelligent person.

01:12:34.000 So I would probably say it's not a propagandist thing.

01:12:38.000 I don't think he's out there with like this master plan of I'm going to peddle these like low IQ talking points to further my agenda.

01:12:46.000 I think it's a combination of just talking point mindset and just not being very intelligent.

01:12:52.000 I would say that's how I would characterize it.

01:12:54.000 I'd say the same, but also that he's a lawyer, so he has a bit more of a skill towards phrasing things in a certain way.

01:13:02.000 That's a good point.

01:13:03.000 Ben Shapiro is the same way.

01:13:04.000 But thanks for the questions.

01:13:05.000 Good talking with you.

01:13:07.000 Thank you.

01:13:07.000 All right.

01:13:08.000 Well, good evening and have a good show.

01:13:11.000 Thanks.

01:13:11.000 You have a good evening as well.

01:13:12.000 Take it easy.

01:13:13.000 All right.

01:13:13.000 Bye.

01:13:14.000 All right.

01:13:15.000 We love Biker Bandito.

01:13:18.000 I love the pacing.

01:13:19.000 I'm a little bit of a motormouth.

01:13:22.000 You know, I'm Italian. 0.98

01:13:22.000 I'm mad. 0.98

01:13:23.000 That's how it goes. 1.00

01:13:25.000 And also, the Mexican makes me speedy Gonzalez. 0.99

01:13:27.000 You know how they have that very sing song y kind of dialect? 0.98

01:13:30.000 Maybe it's a little of both.

01:13:32.000 It's a. 0.99

01:13:33.000 It's a double whammy because you know, Italians are very expressive and they talk a lot, they talk with their hands, and then the Mexican side is like the you know, you know, and I can make that joke because I'm Mexican, they have that sing songy, fast cadence, you know, so it's the combination that creates the Nick Fuentes mentality, the Nick Fuentes delivery. 0.98

01:13:55.000 I don't know what the Irish does, I don't drink, so maybe the Irish part isn't activated. 0.99

01:14:01.000 Let's see, we'll bring in American Caesar.

01:14:05.000 What's going on, Caesar?

01:14:07.000 Hey, how are you doing, Nick?

01:14:09.000 Hey, I'm doing all right.

01:14:10.000 How are you doing?

01:14:12.000 I'm doing good.

01:14:12.000 I'm watching America first, you know.

01:14:15.000 My question is how do you think the best way is to red pill your family?

01:14:24.000 My take on it is comedy.

01:14:26.000 I've been doing it over the past year or so.

01:14:29.000 I've been shifting the Overton window, as they say, you know.

01:14:34.000 And.

01:14:36.000 One of my friends is a Ben Shapiro-like kind of guy, and he's been slowly coming into the Nick Fuentes show every now and then, and he's liking the takes.

01:14:47.000 So I want to know: what do you see as the best route?

01:14:52.000 Well, I think you're right on the money in terms of comedy.

01:14:55.000 Comedy is always the most persuasive.

01:14:58.000 And the reason being is because comedy disarms people.

01:15:03.000 If you make a joke, and this is a big part of what red pilled me with Sam Hyde, because when you're watching a video and it's just funny, you know, either it's delivered in a funny way or it makes a point that is true and it's exaggerated to the point where it becomes humorous, it disarms you in a way that you say, well, this is funny, this is making me feel good, and you're not even aware that you're being convinced or persuaded.

01:15:26.000 That's some of the strongest kind of persuasion there is.

01:15:28.000 The worst, absolute worst thing you can do is overtly, explicitly, and aggressively try to convert people by saying, and I've said this before on the show, confronting people and telling them either implicitly or explicitly, you are wrong.

01:15:44.000 You know, if you come up and say, hey, did you know this?

01:15:48.000 Why do you think this?

01:15:50.000 You know, all that kind of thing, all you're telling somebody is you're wrong.

01:15:54.000 And when you say you're wrong, you're telling them what?

01:15:56.000 You're telling them you're not smart, you didn't think of this, you don't know these things.

01:16:01.000 That's something that hurts a person's ego.

01:16:03.000 People don't like to feel that.

01:16:04.000 People don't like to feel that they didn't know something.

01:16:07.000 People don't like to feel that they have the wrong opinion.

01:16:09.000 They don't like to be embarrassed.

01:16:10.000 It's human nature.

01:16:12.000 And so, actually, when you go about it from that option or from that route, people actually become more defensive because now they're being attacked.

01:16:19.000 Their views are being attacked.

01:16:21.000 Their person is being attacked.

01:16:22.000 So they say, Well, I have to defend myself.

01:16:24.000 Now, I don't even know if I totally subscribe to it, but I have to defend myself from this attack.

01:16:28.000 I have to defend my reputation, basically.

01:16:31.000 So, comedy is a good avenue, but also just the inquisitive approach.

01:16:35.000 I mean, these are people you love.

01:16:37.000 So, you know how to communicate with them, and you know, family has to talk about these issues from time to time and just start asking questions based on their values, you know.

01:16:46.000 Well, what do you think?

01:16:47.000 I mean, why is it that there's pressure to bring in these immigrants?

01:16:52.000 I mean, is it really necessary for a nation to have immigrants to make it better? 0.97

01:16:58.000 I mean, China, Japan, South Korea, they're all great nations, and they don't have immigrants. 1.00

01:17:02.000 I mean, why do we need immigrants? 0.96

01:17:03.000 Would France be riding right now? 1.00

01:17:05.000 What's that?

01:17:06.000 Would France be riding right now if they had the World Cup?

01:17:09.000 I mean, would they?

01:17:10.000 Like, who's rioting right now? 1.00

01:17:12.000 Is it the French people? 1.00

01:17:13.000 That's right. 0.60

01:17:13.000 Who knows? 0.60

01:17:14.000 There it is.

01:17:15.000 And that kind of inquisitive approach, you have to be careful, though.

01:17:15.000 There it is.

01:17:18.000 It takes a lot of patience.

01:17:19.000 Because it's very easy for people when they don't get the answer or the response they don't like, or if they get a response or an answer they don't like, to then very quickly go on the offense.

01:17:29.000 And it happens to me.

01:17:31.000 I've seen it happen.

01:17:32.000 But if you stay committed to a very, you know, you have to play the long game, slow and steady, and just always be planting those seeds, asking those questions, making those observations, like, hmm. 0.98

01:17:42.000 You know, America's not going to be a white country in 100 years. 0.97

01:17:46.000 I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I don't know, I guess. 1.00

01:17:50.000 You know, just start planting the seeds, little things like that, making observations.

01:17:55.000 And I think that's how you get people around.

01:17:57.000 Unless you're really good like me, then you could be aggressive.

01:18:00.000 Hey, one last thing. 1.00

01:18:02.000 You're totally right on the Gen Z. Both my younger brothers, Gen Z kids, completely ahead of the curve compared to where I was at that age.

01:18:13.000 So, Gen Z is where it's at. 1.00

01:18:15.000 Good, good. 1.00

01:18:16.000 I see it every day.

01:18:17.000 It's happening.

01:18:18.000 I'm the mayor of Gen Z, and we're going to take the country back.

01:18:22.000 So, good to hear.

01:18:24.000 One step at a time, America first.

01:18:27.000 That's right, big guy.

01:18:28.000 Stay committed.

01:18:29.000 It's going to happen.

01:18:30.000 We're all going to make it, lads.

01:18:32.000 Have a good night, Nikki.

01:18:33.000 You too, big guy.

01:18:34.000 Take it easy.

01:18:36.000 All right.

01:18:36.000 Great call.

01:18:37.000 Great questions.

01:18:38.000 I love when people ask me because that's the right question.

01:18:41.000 How do we persuade?

01:18:43.000 And look, even don't take my word for it, just always try.

01:18:48.000 Think about persuasion.

01:18:49.000 That's what it's all about.

01:18:52.000 Got to be persuading.

01:18:53.000 The problem is, people get too invested in the issues.

01:18:57.000 And not that it's a problem that people get invested in the issues, but they think that the substance is all that there is.

01:19:03.000 That's the chief mistake.

01:19:05.000 Well, I don't know if it's the chief mistake, but that's a big mistake that certain people are making in the right wing.

01:19:12.000 They think it's all about just dropping the information into people's brains.

01:19:17.000 If we just punch the information into their brains, they'll be convinced they'll be on our side, they'll be fighting with us.

01:19:24.000 It doesn't work like that.

01:19:25.000 It does not work like that.

01:19:27.000 You have to take the substance, and almost as important as how you deliver it, it's finessing it, how you get people to believe it.

01:19:36.000 People spend billions and billions of dollars trying to persuade people, and there's a reason for that.

01:19:42.000 There's a reason for that.

01:19:44.000 It's because it's a difficult thing, it takes a lot of thought, and to be effective is something that requires both of those things.

01:19:51.000 So we're not beyond that.

01:19:54.000 We have to put in the work too.

01:19:55.000 But once we can put together a formula, an approach, and everybody's a little bit different, but if we can put together something, That is truly effective, and that's what I think I do on Twitter every day test out talking points, rhetoric, buzzwords, that kind of thing.

01:20:08.000 We will arrive at a case that is very effective for our viewpoint.

01:20:13.000 Oh, Clown Jay Fuentes.

01:20:16.000 I can't imagine this is going to be a favorable caller, but we'll see what happens.

01:20:22.000 What's going on? 0.82

01:20:22.000 Hello, Clown. 0.82

01:20:24.000 Hello, Nicholas Jay Fuentes. 0.84

01:20:26.000 Hello, hello.

01:20:27.000 So, is your name a dig at me?

01:20:30.000 Are you trying to say something about me?

01:20:32.000 No, no, not at all. 0.99

01:20:34.000 I just like clowns. 0.98

01:20:35.000 All right. 0.97

01:20:36.000 Fair enough.

01:20:38.000 So, what's on your mind?

01:20:40.000 So, did you say that China was a traditionalist country?

01:20:44.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:20:46.000 How is it a traditionalist country? 0.79

01:20:47.000 Because the way I see it, China's like a majority atheist country where they have abortion, like so much abortion because of the two child policy. 0.90

01:20:57.000 I don't see how it could be traditionalist. 0.96

01:20:58.000 Well, their traditions are different than our traditions.

01:21:01.000 I mean, that's just as simple as that. 0.98

01:21:03.000 I mean, they're not a Christian country, obviously, but they don't have a Christian heritage. 0.92

01:21:07.000 They are atheists, I'll grant you that. 0.88

01:21:09.000 But.

01:21:10.000 I mean, for centuries and millennia, actually, their stated values and their core values have been Confucian or more philosophical, as opposed to something that is based on monotheism.

01:21:23.000 And so, if you're looking at the physiognomy of Sinic civilization versus Western civilization, God did not play the same role in the development of the two countries.

01:21:33.000 And so, that's not to say that we should embrace a traditionalism that is atheist or anything like that, but it is to say that.

01:21:41.000 And don't get me wrong, China is not a perfectly traditionalist country, but by and large, they are guided, or at least they believe they are guided, by their Confucian traditions, their Han Chinese traditions.

01:21:53.000 You know, Xi Jinping's a great example of this.

01:21:55.000 He's made his stated policy making China culturally more traditional.

01:22:01.000 And they're developing very rapidly in the East, but by and large, most of the country remains very traditional.

01:22:08.000 So that's what I meant by that.

01:22:10.000 Is that a good answer, or would you disagree?

01:22:14.000 That's a good answer, but what do you think about the Red Army, where the little kids would go around like burning down temples and stuff?

01:22:20.000 Well, there's a great example of progressivism.

01:22:23.000 You know, if you had the Cultural Revolution under Mao Zedong, if that's what you're referring to, the 1960s, that was an example of progressivism.

01:22:30.000 And what happened was that it was a disaster.

01:22:33.000 The Cultural Revolution was so bad, that's what got Mao Zedong kicked out of power.

01:22:38.000 And so before he died, he wasn't even ruling the country, at least in anything but name.

01:22:43.000 And so I think China, compared to the Soviet Union, The Soviet Union, they had a cultural revolution that never ended. 0.59

01:22:49.000 They subtracted the Orthodox Church. 0.71

01:22:50.000 They took out the Tsarist autocracy or they reshaped it in a very perverse way. 0.84

01:22:55.000 They took out all the traditional Russian values and they paid the price. 0.62

01:22:59.000 And they've been trying to build that back up for the past two decades under Putin.

01:23:03.000 But China made that mistake for about 10 years and I think they very quickly caught on.

01:23:08.000 Now, surprisingly, what presents an even bigger threat to their tradition. 0.91

01:23:11.000 What's that?

01:23:13.000 Oh, sorry, I just lied.

01:23:14.000 Oh, okay.

01:23:15.000 Surprisingly, what presents an even bigger threat to their tradition is not communism, which lasted.

01:23:22.000 Again, in everything but name for about 10 years.

01:23:25.000 Now, the biggest threat is capitalism.

01:23:27.000 As they've risen, as their economy has thrived and grown, that modernist capitalism is what's going to be the threat to their tradition.

01:23:35.000 So, that's what I think about the Cultural Revolution.

01:23:38.000 The Chinese Communist Party does still have a strong hold on the Chinese government nowadays, though.

01:23:44.000 Yeah.

01:23:45.000 I don't think they've learned their lesson.

01:23:46.000 Well, I mean, they call themselves communists, but I mean, can you really call them?

01:23:51.000 People have described them variously as.

01:23:53.000 State capitalist or market socialist.

01:23:56.000 They come up with these convoluted terms.

01:23:57.000 But I mean, it's really not communism and like traditional Marxian communism, right?

01:24:03.000 By any stretch, or nothing comparable to the new economic plan or the wartime communism of the Soviet Union.

01:24:10.000 I agree, the Communist Party still rules with an iron fist, but I don't think you describe the economy as communist.

01:24:17.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

01:24:19.000 All right, that's it.

01:24:20.000 Thank you.

01:24:21.000 Thank you.

01:24:22.000 Thanks for the call.

01:24:22.000 Take it easy.

01:24:24.000 All right.

01:24:25.000 Well, those are good questions.

01:24:26.000 I thought he was making fun of me for a moment. 0.90

01:24:28.000 I guess he's just a clown enthusiast.

01:24:31.000 I don't know if I believe that, but I'll take his word for it. 1.00

01:24:34.000 That's a good question about China.

01:24:35.000 And I think people should learn more about Asia because these are the countries we're going to be dealing with in the next 100 years.

01:24:44.000 And people say, well, China's going to overtake us and we'll all be working for them.

01:24:50.000 I don't buy all that.

01:24:51.000 Trust me, I don't believe all the China hype.

01:24:53.000 So I hesitate to say that because there is a lot of.

01:24:58.000 The threat does get overblown a lot. 0.98

01:25:00.000 If you really understand the Chinese situation, you know that a lot of that is bluster. 0.94

01:25:04.000 But nevertheless, we're going to be dealing with China. 0.93

01:25:07.000 We're going to be dealing with Japan, the Koreas. 0.88

01:25:10.000 We're also going to be dealing with Africa in a big way. 0.98

01:25:14.000 And that's going to be something.

01:25:16.000 So we should seek some kind of an alliance with Asia, with the more advanced civilizations of the world.

01:25:23.000 Because it's going to be, and I forget what this is called, but there's some kind of theory about mass migrations of people.

01:25:31.000 And I.

01:25:31.000 It's totally lost on me.

01:25:33.000 This was mentioned to me by somebody, a very smart friend of mine, but I totally forgot the term.

01:25:38.000 It's called like the fourth turning or the fourth migration or something, where they talk about how populations grow.

01:25:45.000 And they say that, well, populations follow these three trends through from agriculture through to the Industrial Revolution.

01:25:53.000 And the fourth big trend, or it's the fourth or the fifth, will be the people from the southern hemisphere moving into the north and taking over. 0.69

01:26:01.000 And that's what's in our future. 0.98

01:26:03.000 Tropical people, you know, all the people that are at the equator or south of the equator, people who tend to have lower IQs, they will all be rising up into the north and they will be taking over our countries and the future will be not a fun time. 1.00

01:26:20.000 And you see this all over the place, whether it's the Hispanics moving into America, whether it's the Africans moving into North Africa, Sub Saharan Africans moving into North Africa. 1.00

01:26:30.000 North Africa used to be like European. 0.85

01:26:33.000 You understand that that was the Carthaginians or, you know, That was the Romans back in the day.

01:26:39.000 Augustine was born in North Africa.

01:26:42.000 And now it is what it is. 0.97

01:26:43.000 So they're going to move up into North Africa and then into Europe. 0.93

01:26:46.000 In Asia, the same thing will happen. 0.97

01:26:49.000 The Southern Asians moving into the Han and into the Koreas. 1.00

01:26:54.000 Very dangerous stuff. 1.00

01:26:56.000 Let's see.

01:26:56.000 We'll bring in a couple more callers and then I'll look at Super Chats and Streamlabs.

01:26:59.000 Why don't we bring in Graham?

01:27:03.000 What's going on, Graham?

01:27:04.000 You're on the show.

01:27:05.000 Hey.

01:27:06.000 Hey.

01:27:06.000 Yeah, regarding David Sherat, basically, I think sort of his ideology, well, not just him, but like progressives in general, when you think about it, Like the Chinese Revolution or the Khmer Rouge, they're always treating it like it's the end of history.

01:27:27.000 We're the enlightened ones now.

01:27:30.000 In the past, they didn't know anything.

01:27:32.000 So now all these things like nationalism or religion or anything like that, we don't need it anymore because we're smart.

01:27:40.000 And we can just break down all the walls and all the.

01:27:44.000 We don't need all this anymore because we're the good ones now.

01:27:48.000 We've evolved.

01:27:50.000 Well, exactly.

01:27:50.000 That's right on the money.

01:27:52.000 It's the hubris of the progressive who looks at 10,000 years before him and says, I'm smarter than all that.

01:28:00.000 I arrived on this planet.

01:28:02.000 And in the case of David Schrott, I arrived here 20 years ago, but I know all that experience, all that wisdom, all that bloodshed and fighting and experience.

01:28:12.000 I'm smarter than all of that.

01:28:14.000 Racism, nationalism, religion.

01:28:17.000 Oh, who needs it?

01:28:18.000 Like you said, we're smarter.

01:28:20.000 We know.

01:28:21.000 We're on the right side.

01:28:22.000 This is the new order.

01:28:24.000 And it's so true.

01:28:25.000 They don't recognize the folly because they're in it.

01:28:28.000 And this is the case for the revolutionaries in France, the revolutionaries in Russia, the Khmer Rouge, the Chinese, all these different cases where it's happened the revolutionary, utopian ideologies.

01:28:39.000 In every case, they think, we've got it figured out.

01:28:43.000 It was all wrong before.

01:28:45.000 We're going to make it utopia.

01:28:47.000 And it's folly, but they can't recognize it because historically they don't look at the context of what's happening.

01:28:54.000 And so people tell me all the time, you're a kid, you think you know everything.

01:28:58.000 It's quite the opposite.

01:28:59.000 I think we, individuals, or humanity as a cross section in time, know nothing.

01:29:05.000 And that's why we have to look at the traditions.

01:29:07.000 That's why we have to look at the ancestors and how those inform us.

01:29:10.000 We don't really know anything.

01:29:11.000 We have to look at the experience of the ancestors.

01:29:14.000 And that's what it is.

01:29:15.000 That's the difference.

01:29:16.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:17.000 When you look in the past, even 2,000 years ago or more, people think, oh, they thought the earth was flat.

01:29:23.000 Actually, that's not the case.

01:29:24.000 People well over 2,000 years ago knew.

01:29:28.000 That the earth is round.

01:29:29.000 They did experiments and stuff like that, and it's recorded.

01:29:32.000 And look at all the things they built over the past thousands and thousands of years the agrarian revolution, and that was like, what, 10,000 years ago?

01:29:41.000 People knew.

01:29:43.000 We're the same now, basically, as they were before, but people are thinking, oh, we've evolved past all this need for nationalism. 0.67

01:29:52.000 And yeah, just like bring all the Somalis in.

01:29:56.000 They'll acclimate to us, we'll teach them, we'll have our utopia. 0.99

01:30:01.000 And I've heard people even say this, like, oh, the next step of humanity will be really enlightened when the world is finally, when everybody's mixed and there isn't really a nation.

01:30:16.000 Actually, somebody said it, I don't remember verbatim, but he was in his 60s or something.

01:30:21.000 He was like a boomer that was really progressive and he thinks, yeah, we need to mix everybody.

01:30:26.000 We need to open the borders and stuff like that.

01:30:28.000 And it's insane. 1.00

01:30:30.000 Well, and the boomers don't care. 0.93

01:30:33.000 I had a family member of mine. 1.00

01:30:35.000 What's that?

01:30:36.000 Well, I just think that it's very dangerous what they're trying to do.

01:30:40.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:30:40.000 Well, and the boomers don't care. 1.00

01:30:42.000 That's what's toxic about the boomer, is that once they have no idea what's happening because it's outside their experience and they won't endure it. 0.87

01:30:51.000 And number two, even if you can convince them it's happening, they don't care because they're going to be dead soon.

01:30:56.000 And that's, I've literally heard this from my family members.

01:30:59.000 I'm not going to name names, but I've had family members, none of the ones who watch this show, and this is why I'm saying it, who have said, I don't care what's going to happen to your generation.

01:31:08.000 I'm not going to be around for it.

01:31:10.000 And even my parents, you know, look, love my parents.

01:31:13.000 God bless my parents.

01:31:14.000 They're great people.

01:31:16.000 But they've said, look, we can't worry about that, worried about retirement.

01:31:19.000 We're not going to be around for it.

01:31:21.000 And, you know, they say that kind of tongue in cheek, but that's basically the mentality.

01:31:25.000 My generation, like, we have a very big reason to be concerned because we're going to bear the consequences and our children will in a big way, in ways that are going to suck horribly, ruin our lives.

01:31:37.000 So, them, it's like they may see it for a second, they may be around to see the very beginning of what happens.

01:31:43.000 But that's why you're not going to find a lot of sympathy among them.

01:31:47.000 So you're right.

01:31:48.000 We're going downhill fast.

01:31:51.000 The people that put us in the situation were hubristic.

01:31:54.000 They had this great folly.

01:31:56.000 And now they're going to laugh.

01:31:57.000 They won't be around to see the consequences.

01:32:00.000 Some of them will.

01:32:01.000 Some of them are better.

01:32:02.000 But yeah, it's not a good place we're in right now.

01:32:05.000 But we're going to fix it. 1.00

01:32:06.000 Generation Z is going to fix it.

01:32:09.000 Yeah, I hope it's fixed peacefully because I don't really want a war or anything like that.

01:32:14.000 I just.

01:32:15.000 I don't hate anybody.

01:32:16.000 I'd be mad if Japan was going through this mass immigration and they're replaced.

01:32:21.000 It's nothing to do with racism.

01:32:23.000 I want Japan to be Japanese or Ireland to be Irish. 0.61

01:32:27.000 But anyway, thanks for having me on.

01:32:29.000 Oh, and I really liked yesterday when you came on and you debated Patrick Little and I always forget the other guy's name Paul Nealon.

01:32:38.000 Paul Nealon.

01:32:38.000 I always get them confused too because they're very alike.

01:32:42.000 But yeah, anyway, I love your show.

01:32:45.000 Thanks for having me on.

01:32:45.000 Thanks for calling in.

01:32:46.000 Appreciate it.

01:32:47.000 Take it easy.

01:32:49.000 All right.

01:32:50.000 That was a nice guy.

01:32:51.000 Very cool guy.

01:32:52.000 We'll bring in one more caller and then we'll call it a night.

01:32:55.000 Yeah, it was a pretty fun Blood Sports.

01:32:57.000 I was on the kill stream.

01:32:59.000 I was on the Ralph retort last night with Patrick Little and Paul Nealon.

01:33:03.000 Slicing and dicing.

01:33:04.000 The knife made a comeback.

01:33:07.000 It's been a long time since I did Blood Sports.

01:33:09.000 I can't really even remember the last Blood Sports I did.

01:33:12.000 I think it was with Arthur Schopra.

01:33:14.000 I think he was the last one.

01:33:17.000 But that was the first Blood Sports in a long time last night.

01:33:20.000 I started out just taking on Nealon.

01:33:23.000 Sliced and diced, and then Patrick Little jumped on, and then I handled them both at the same time with ease. 1.00

01:33:31.000 It's not even fair almost with these boomers. 1.00

01:33:33.000 It's just simply not fair. 1.00

01:33:34.000 It shouldn't be that easy.

01:33:36.000 You know, even with David Sherat, we're getting into this debate, and I don't agree with him.

01:33:41.000 I think he's wrong, but he's arguing his case.

01:33:44.000 You know, he's able to come up with effective counterarguments, he's able to come up with effective defense and offense.

01:33:51.000 With Patrick Little and Paul Nealon, it's a disaster.

01:33:53.000 They don't even have the energy to interrupt me.

01:33:56.000 I mean, they let me walk all over them.

01:33:58.000 That's number one.

01:33:59.000 And then number two, there's not even an attempt to debate at a higher level, at an advanced level, where they're reframing the argument or they're offering new offensives or they're taking my arguments and turning them.

01:34:12.000 I mean, none of that's happening.

01:34:13.000 So, from a rhetorical standpoint, it's like being with a couple of babies, it's like arguing with a couple of children.

01:34:20.000 And the only reason I do it is because I think they're tough and all.

01:34:23.000 They're so tough.

01:34:24.000 They're all the rest. 1.00

01:34:27.000 But it's just pathetic. 0.99

01:34:28.000 And people are in the comments. 0.98

01:34:30.000 So much cope going on.

01:34:32.000 Nick lost.

01:34:33.000 Nick lost.

01:34:34.000 Oh, I can't believe it.

01:34:35.000 Nick lost.

01:34:36.000 It's like, get real. 0.98

01:34:38.000 You weren't watching the same debate, obviously, because it was a bloodbath for the double P, Patrick and Paul. 1.00

01:34:47.000 But no, it was fun. 1.00

01:34:49.000 It was fun.

01:34:49.000 I was having a pretty rough day.

01:34:50.000 I was very angry, very frustrated.

01:34:53.000 I'm a very irritable person.

01:34:53.000 I don't know.

01:34:54.000 I think it's something with my brain.

01:34:56.000 I don't know if it's I have bad habits, like sleeping and eating, or if there's just something wrong with my brain.

01:35:03.000 Because sometimes I get irritable and I can't even control it.

01:35:06.000 I really, I just be angry for no reason.

01:35:09.000 I said, I'll just be angry for no reason.

01:35:12.000 I mean, the other day, I'm driving like an absolute maniac just because I was furious for no reason.

01:35:19.000 And so I was very angry.

01:35:20.000 I needed to get all that out.

01:35:21.000 So it felt good.

01:35:22.000 And you could tell I was kind of jumping out of my shorts.

01:35:26.000 Is that an expression?

01:35:28.000 I was really eager.

01:35:29.000 Let's put it that way. 0.87

01:35:30.000 I was very eager to get it on and rip them to pieces.

01:35:33.000 And I think you could tell, but it was fun.

01:35:36.000 Let's bring on one last caller and then we'll call it a night.

01:35:39.000 All right, we'll bring on Shinjitsu.

01:35:42.000 What's going on, big guy?

01:35:44.000 Hey, how are you doing?

01:35:45.000 I'm doing all right.

01:35:46.000 How are you?

01:35:47.000 I haven't called in in a while.

01:35:47.000 Pretty good.

01:35:50.000 So, here, let me pause the show.

01:35:53.000 So, I think you hit the nail on the head talking about it just boiling down to, and you know, that David guy being a pretty smart guy, but it was just such a difference in values.

01:36:04.000 Is there any value in debate after that?

01:36:06.000 Do you think that there's any way you can shift that for people, or do you think that's something you're kind of just born with and due to upbringing, or what?

01:36:13.000 That's a good question.

01:36:15.000 I think it is productive so long as you understand the difference in values.

01:36:20.000 The problem that we see is that people will debate, and at once it's a debate about whatever it is, policy or about a political position.

01:36:30.000 But always it reduces to those fundamental differences in value, of which it's very difficult to convince people.

01:36:36.000 I think as long as you understand those two differences or that fundamental difference, Then it can be a productive conversation, exploring, well, which is something that we should value versus something we shouldn't.

01:36:49.000 Once you have an argument about that, I think it's much more efficient.

01:36:52.000 You know, it's kind of like beating around the bush, or not beating around the bush, rather, once you get it down and reduce it to those fundamental principles. 0.65

01:37:00.000 Because, for example, me and David could go back and forth about whether or not immigration is a good thing.

01:37:06.000 But of course, immigration is a good thing for him because he values economic productivity and efficiency and the welfare of people.

01:37:14.000 And I believe that.

01:37:15.000 Well, I guess if we believe in the welfare of people, then it could go either way.

01:37:19.000 But I mean, pick and choose a different issue.

01:37:21.000 And if there's different values, then you'll arrive at understandably different conclusions that can concurrently be correct based on those values.

01:37:29.000 If, you know, for example, if I like pizza and he likes a hamburger, you know, we could go back and forth arguing is pizza better or hamburger better?

01:37:37.000 But if I get a pizza, it's going to be good for me.

01:37:40.000 If he gets a pizza, it's going to be bad for him.

01:37:42.000 And they exist at the same time.

01:37:43.000 And such is the case with a political position based on what.

01:37:47.000 Two different people value.

01:37:49.000 And so, as long as you understand going into it that those are different values and fundamentally those will not change between the debaters, I think you can have a productive conversation.

01:38:00.000 But you got to understand those things.

01:38:02.000 Right.

01:38:03.000 So, like you said, it's not going to change between the debaters.

01:38:06.000 Like, do you think that there's any, like, do you basically think that you're just convincing people, you know, based on their fundamental values, like people who are watching?

01:38:15.000 Do you think that you're just trying to convince them that for what they have, your side is better?

01:38:19.000 Or do you think that you can?

01:38:21.000 Kind of shape that for people who haven't thought about it so much or what? 0.92

01:38:25.000 I think it's really more so about people who haven't thought about it, at least in our case, because I think in 99% of cases, people, and this is really more about shaping the conversation for the next generations, older people basically have most of their values set in stone. 0.67

01:38:41.000 And politics is different than like an intellectual debate.

01:38:44.000 In a political debate, your job is to convince people that your policy prescriptions or your platform is in their interest too.

01:38:53.000 And sometimes we do this with liberals.

01:38:54.000 We say, classical liberals, we'll say, well, you might not agree with us on. 0.96

01:38:59.000 The value of the white race, but it will in the end be more conducive to what you like, which is free speech and the Second Amendment, and you would die on a hill for that. 0.97

01:39:08.000 So that's a political task. 0.98

01:39:09.000 On an intellectual level, for the most part, people have their value set.

01:39:13.000 But for the younger generation, we've got to have them rediscover what all people, I think, really value, what all people really yearn for, which is the spiritual, which is the traditional.

01:39:24.000 You know, I think if you would pull a young person or maybe somebody who's miserable now, I think you'd find if you really got to an honest answer, most people would say, Family, friends, that sense of belonging, which many people cannot articulate.

01:39:38.000 And so for many people, it's just a matter of maybe rediscovery in some sense.

01:39:43.000 But I mostly do it for the benefit of younger people.

01:39:46.000 I'm a younger guy.

01:39:47.000 It's mostly younger people watching the show.

01:39:49.000 It's trying to convince people, at least from my position, that all these values that they're trying to convince you are good and virtuous and should be considered the highest are vapid and empty and wrong without our values.

01:40:02.000 And so I guess it's really more of a task for people who are still developing.

01:40:07.000 Yeah, I really just think so many more people than are on our side politically hold these values.

01:40:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:40:17.000 Like, so many people care about community and the family and religion and stuff, or they don't accept what life is when you follow no religion to a logical conclusion.

01:40:30.000 That I think if that pathway to showing that this is what you have is these really degenerate things of the left, if that was there, I think far more people would be on our side.

01:40:40.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:40:42.000 That's true.

01:40:42.000 And look, our worldview, which is correct, says that there is objective truth.

01:40:49.000 There are objectively things that are correct.

01:40:51.000 And so just because we have different values doesn't mean they are equally correct.

01:40:55.000 So I said, well, they could both be consistent.

01:40:59.000 Or rather, something could be good for me and bad for someone else, and that could still be consistent with both of our values.

01:41:05.000 But that doesn't mean that they're both correct.

01:41:07.000 So if David says, well, I don't value God and the family, well, that doesn't mean that he's equally entitled to.

01:41:14.000 To being correct, that's wrong.

01:41:16.000 So it is still a matter of convincing for a lot of people, but if people are set in their ways and these are their stated values, I mean, there's some people, I think the two people in the arena that are not going to change their minds, but we still are correct.

01:41:30.000 So that's true.

01:41:32.000 And there it is.

01:41:34.000 Yeah, awesome.

01:41:35.000 Well, thank you for taking my call.

01:41:36.000 And thanks for calling in, big guy.

01:41:38.000 Good to hear from you.

01:41:38.000 Appreciate it.

01:41:39.000 Yeah, yeah, have a good night.

01:41:40.000 Take it easy.

01:41:40.000 You too.

01:41:42.000 All right, so that'll be our last call from Shinjitsu.

01:41:45.000 I'm going to jump into our Streamlabs and Super Chats.

01:41:47.000 Now, and we'll see what's being said, what the reaction is here.

01:41:52.000 It's a little hot in here.

01:41:53.000 I don't know why.

01:41:54.000 I'm not wearing a tie.

01:41:55.000 Space heater's not on.

01:41:57.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:41:59.000 Let's see.

01:42:00.000 We'll look at our Streamlabs first.

01:42:03.000 We've got Graham who says, Why is it bad to allow different ethnicities to preserve their ethnicity and their cultures in their respective homelands?

01:42:11.000 How is this extreme?

01:42:12.000 I grant everyone Japanese, Irish, Korean, Norwegian, everyone to exist.

01:42:18.000 How is that extreme?

01:42:19.000 It isn't.

01:42:20.000 It totally isn't.

01:42:22.000 But it is extreme within the context of what the establishment has decided is acceptable.

01:42:29.000 And if you explain this to most people, they'll get their heads around it.

01:42:33.000 And that's why they have to brand it extreme.

01:42:36.000 You have to understand that the establishment does not convince people that these things are bad.

01:42:43.000 They don't win the argument.

01:42:45.000 They win because they don't even have the argument, they don't publish the opinions, they don't even engage in the argument.

01:42:52.000 They just say, don't even consider that.

01:42:55.000 That's extreme.

01:42:55.000 That's bad.

01:42:56.000 That's what these people do.

01:42:58.000 Because if Ben Shapiro sat down with someone like me, maybe half of his audience would decide, I've been lied to.

01:43:05.000 Nick Fuentes is not an extremist.

01:43:07.000 He's not a bad guy.

01:43:08.000 He probably agrees more with my values than Ben Shapiro.

01:43:13.000 But that's the thing that debate doesn't happen.

01:43:14.000 And it's not a coincidence it doesn't happen.

01:43:17.000 They rely on delegitimizing, stigmatizing, censoring.

01:43:22.000 That's the only way.

01:43:23.000 That their ideas can remain in the mainstream.

01:43:26.000 That's the only reason that their ideas remain popular, is because they rely on censorship and all those other tactics to get people to not even consider them.

01:43:36.000 If people sat down and they considered the ruling ideology versus our ideology, one which says we are going to fundamentally destroy all the foundations of the country, there is no one race, there is no one religion, no one language, no one culture, we're not going to have any of that, versus someone who says, A society is better the more homogeneous it is.

01:44:01.000 It is more functional.

01:44:02.000 Maybe not better, but it is certainly more functional.

01:44:05.000 It is more conducive to the satisfaction, the belonging, the fulfillment of people's goals and their wishes and dreams.

01:44:13.000 Now, people, I think, if you presented the two cases and the evidence, would side with the latter, but they never hear about it. 0.72

01:44:18.000 They just hear Nazi, neo Nazi, anti Semite, white supremacist, racist, white nationalist. 0.63

01:44:24.000 That's why you've never heard of a black supremacist. 0.98

01:44:26.000 You've never heard of a Jewish supremacist. 0.66

01:44:28.000 You've never heard of an Asian supremacist. 1.00

01:44:30.000 That's why. 0.94

01:44:31.000 That's why white is always wrong. 0.96

01:44:33.000 Because they can't even let you think about it because they profit from the other ideology. 0.96

01:44:39.000 Docile civilian.

01:44:40.000 Following David's advice, I will be using online banking to make all further contributions.

01:44:45.000 The standard fee on international transfer is $29, but that's a small price to get my commentslash question to you within two to four workdays.

01:44:53.000 Exactly.

01:44:54.000 It's not a fair playing field.

01:44:57.000 And these people say, well, life isn't fair, the free market isn't fair.

01:45:01.000 Well, you understand that doesn't apply to literally anybody else except for the people that they don't like.

01:45:07.000 You know, if that were the case for black people, if that were the case for Muslims, it would be an international controversy. 0.93

01:45:14.000 But for us, it's just par for the course. 1.00

01:45:17.000 It's wrong.

01:45:18.000 We should be able to express our message, which is not offensive.

01:45:23.000 Teflon Dom, look into Trex Aftershock's wireless headphones.

01:45:28.000 They rest above your ear and slightly, they vibrate slightly above the bone to create sound.

01:45:34.000 They should be very comfortable for you.

01:45:37.000 About that White Castle donut.

01:45:40.000 That sounds a little funky to me.

01:45:41.000 I don't know.

01:45:42.000 That kind of gives me the heebie jeebies to think about vibrating my eardrum bones.

01:45:48.000 I don't know about that, but I'll look into it.

01:45:51.000 I never had the White Castle donut.

01:45:52.000 I took it home, but I haven't been adventurous enough to try it yet.

01:45:56.000 It's a prepackaged donut from White Castle.

01:45:59.000 I don't know.

01:46:00.000 I'll go in on the fish nibblers, I'll go in on the mozzarella sticks, the hash browns, the fries, the sliders.

01:46:06.000 I'll have it all.

01:46:08.000 Onion rings, but the donut from White Castle, it creeps me out a little bit, not gonna lie. 0.99

01:46:17.000 Waifu Supremacy.

01:46:18.000 Hey, Nick.

01:46:19.000 I was skeptical at first, but after you left last night, Neilan was unable to name a single anime and called you a catboy as a pejorative. 0.78

01:46:28.000 You are beyond a shadow of a doubt vindicated.

01:46:31.000 Well, he's a fed. 0.52

01:46:31.000 True. 0.52

01:46:32.000 If he can't name a single anime, I think he's a fed, right?

01:46:35.000 He spends all that time on poll.

01:46:37.000 He's never seen a single anime.

01:46:39.000 Give me a break.

01:46:40.000 I'm vindicated on everything.

01:46:42.000 I'm vindicated on Neilan.

01:46:43.000 I'm vindicated on little.

01:46:45.000 Syria, Iran, Russia, all these different issues. 0.99

01:46:49.000 North.

01:46:50.000 Korea, the economy, the tax law, like literally everything I wake up, there's a new thing to be vindicated about. 0.89

01:46:56.000 For example, today we saw that Israel has come to an agreement with Russia and America that they will allow Assad to stay in power. 0.89

01:47:06.000 Now, just five months ago or four months ago, they were saying Trump is going to invade Syria and he'll be at war with Russia too and they'll have regime change for Israel.

01:47:17.000 I mean, that's what they were saying four months ago.

01:47:20.000 And today they're saying America and Russia have ended.

01:47:23.000 Are bad relations.

01:47:25.000 John Bolton, who they cried bloody murder over when he was brought into the National Security Council, is personally inviting Putin to the White House for a meeting.

01:47:33.000 Israel, Russia, and Trump all conspire to allow Assad to remain in power, so there's no regime change.

01:47:40.000 And then what else happened this week?

01:47:42.000 We found out that the National Guard on the border has apprehended an additional 10,000 illegal immigrants as opposed to before.

01:47:49.000 We found out that under the new tax law, we actually brought in more revenue with tax cuts in June than we did in any other June in history.

01:47:58.000 Coach Redpill said the new tax law is going to create an outstanding deficit because it's cutting taxes too much.

01:48:06.000 And we brought in more tax revenue, just like I said it would.

01:48:11.000 And he could go down the list, on and on and on. 0.99

01:48:13.000 North Korea is going well.

01:48:15.000 Iran just said today that Donald Trump invited them six different times to negotiations.

01:48:21.000 They were saying that we're going to go to war with Iran when he canceled the Iran deal.

01:48:25.000 Every day it's vindication, and every day they have to move the goalposts and say, oh, no, no, but this is bad now.

01:48:30.000 This is a bad thing.

01:48:32.000 We're winning.

01:48:33.000 I've been right about everything.

01:48:35.000 What else is new?

01:48:35.000 That's how it goes.

01:48:37.000 And we'll see what our people are saying in the super chats as well now.

01:48:42.000 Axton Hale says Be sure to ask Vic why he auto blocks people.

01:48:46.000 Hey, Vic, why do you auto block people?

01:48:53.000 I guess he's giving us the silent treatment.

01:48:55.000 This is cheese, by the way.

01:48:57.000 I saw a few people were asking me what this was made out of.

01:49:00.000 This is cheese.

01:49:01.000 And I think it perfectly captures the fact that he's like this. 0.99

01:49:06.000 Disgusting, mushy, like spoiled dairy creature. 0.99

01:49:13.000 You know, this is a block of cheese. 0.98

01:49:14.000 There's a little bit of string for hair, a little, what do you call that?

01:49:20.000 A push pin is in the head to keep the hair in, and the glasses are fashioned out of twist ties.

01:49:25.000 So it's good to have Vic Berger on the show.

01:49:29.000 I will go back in and I'll show you.

01:49:31.000 I think it's pretty accurate, right?

01:49:32.000 Let me do a little transition.

01:49:35.000 Isn't that pretty accurate?

01:49:37.000 Isn't that a pretty accurate comparison?

01:49:40.000 Right?

01:49:42.000 Compare the two.

01:49:43.000 Compare it to what you just saw.

01:49:44.000 I mean, that's basically the same, right?

01:49:46.000 I'll hold it up for the screenshot or whatever.

01:49:51.000 So, but it's good to have him on the show.

01:49:54.000 Simon Skola, ever read that kid's book, The Stinky Cheese Man?

01:49:57.000 I did when I was in elementary school.

01:50:00.000 He read that book by like, it was like The Stinky Cheese Man and other weird stories or something.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, it brings back memories.

01:50:11.000 God and Country says, Great show and great work you are doing.

01:50:14.000 Keep it up.

01:50:15.000 Thank you, big guy.

01:50:15.000 Appreciate it.

01:50:17.000 Reformed Bugman says, Is this guy a tranny or is he just drinking soy? 0.96

01:50:22.000 I think he's denied being a tranny in great detail before, so it must just be the soy.

01:50:28.000 Cloudstar says, David will be wearing a burqa in 10 years. 0.99

01:50:31.000 Yeah, basically.

01:50:32.000 Mike Mack says, David and Nick fight me in real life.

01:50:36.000 I'll fight you in Roblox.

01:50:39.000 Joe Bro says, If this is the left, they are not sending their best.

01:50:43.000 Yeah, pretty rough.

01:50:44.000 He's a nice enough guy, you know.

01:50:46.000 Ryan Mercer just talking me some Dollarie dues.

01:50:48.000 Thank you.

01:50:49.000 Dweller says anti anime is code for the anti white love, or code for anti white. 1.00

01:50:56.000 Love the show, keep it up. 0.88

01:50:58.000 We have to separate with commas and periods.

01:51:00.000 We got to punctuate.

01:51:01.000 But thank you, appreciate it.

01:51:04.000 N says arranged marriage is dysgenic. 1.00

01:51:07.000 Well, it's traditional, and it's what we're doing. 1.00

01:51:10.000 Aqua Steve Hunger Force, or Aqua Steve Universe Force, says social cohesion is a thing.

01:51:17.000 Diversity, not just racial, hurts it.

01:51:20.000 Putnam was afraid to publish his research due to backlash.

01:51:23.000 When he finally did, he made wish fulfillment excuses like Davinia does. 0.88

01:51:30.000 Yeah, Putnam sat on that research for about 10 years, which said that when you have racial diversity, it increases civil disorder. 0.88

01:51:37.000 And he sat on it because he said there was no solution to that that was humane, there's no policy solution for it yet.

01:51:44.000 He feared the consequences, but the data's out there.

01:51:47.000 It doesn't lie.

01:51:49.000 Zach Lonby says, How far along into his herd transition is Sherrod?

01:51:53.000 It's not.

01:51:53.000 Too late to go back.

01:51:54.000 We got to bring him back from the brink.

01:51:57.000 I got to take him out.

01:51:58.000 I don't really go anywhere.

01:52:00.000 I was going to say, like, take him out to the gym or take him out to a sports bar. 0.86

01:52:05.000 I'll take him to Tilted Towers and we'll get him off the soy.

01:52:11.000 I'll get him some sips.

01:52:14.000 He says, Can we get a round of applause for this stunning and brave individual?

01:52:18.000 How long has David been on HRT?

01:52:20.000 I heard he sits when he pees already. 1.00

01:52:22.000 Just brutal nags from the audience. 1.00

01:52:25.000 Swift says, Nick, how do you keep from driving into oncoming traffic? 1.00

01:52:29.000 Some days I wish I'd never heard of Trump or Julius Evola and just watched sports ball and Netflix.

01:52:34.000 I hear you, brother.

01:52:36.000 I hear you.

01:52:37.000 I lose my mind sometimes, very frequently, actually, about these things.

01:52:41.000 But I stay hopeful because God is with us.

01:52:47.000 And if God is with us, who is against us?

01:52:49.000 Who could possibly be against us if God is on our side?

01:52:53.000 So that's what always brings me back.

01:52:55.000 You have to have an unshakable conviction.

01:52:58.000 In yourself, in your country, in your ancestors, and in your God.

01:53:01.000 That's the way.

01:53:02.000 That's what's kept me from going completely off the deep end because, I mean, don't get me wrong, I get very erratic from time to time.

01:53:08.000 I punch things, I throw things, I kick things, I yell, I scream, I speed.

01:53:14.000 Well, only within the limit, 10 miles over.

01:53:19.000 You know, I do all kinds of things, but I've never had one of these breakdowns like so many other YouTubers because the core is strong.

01:53:27.000 The core is very, very strong, unshakable, and that is the conviction.

01:53:32.000 So, I see a lot of people all the time.

01:53:34.000 They're posting, I'm sad.

01:53:37.000 I'm a little baby.

01:53:38.000 They delete their accounts.

01:53:39.000 They delete their Twitter.

01:53:40.000 They have these weird weeks where they're like just going off the rails.

01:53:45.000 They're unhinged.

01:53:48.000 It's literally never happened with me.

01:53:51.000 So, you just got to have that conviction.

01:53:53.000 But I know what you mean.

01:53:54.000 It's better, trust me, it's better to be like this than to be a normie.

01:53:57.000 I think so.

01:53:58.000 It's better to be miserable, but to know the truth than to be sedated and to think you're having a good time because those people are not having a good time.

01:54:07.000 They're not.

01:54:07.000 They think they are, but they're not.

01:54:10.000 And that's the thing.

01:54:10.000 They don't know why they're not having a good time.

01:54:13.000 They'll never know. 0.94

01:54:14.000 So, all these people are miserable. 0.94

01:54:15.000 They present like, we're having the time of our lives.

01:54:18.000 This is all okay.

01:54:19.000 But they're not deep down and they have no idea.

01:54:22.000 At least we can take comfort in knowing we are on the right side.

01:54:25.000 And if we die, it won't be in vain.

01:54:27.000 So, that's a great thing.

01:54:28.000 Simon Skola says, Is Ben Shapiro even intelligent or just educated?

01:54:32.000 I would say he's somewhat intelligent, but he's not very creative or not highly intelligent.

01:54:38.000 He is just very educated for the most part.

01:54:42.000 The Crypto Report says, Nick, come be my guest on the Crypto Report.

01:54:45.000 Send me an email.

01:54:46.000 We'll work it out, all right?

01:54:47.000 NJFuentesblog at gmail.com.

01:54:51.000 Simon Skullis says, What's your favorite flavor of Pringles?

01:54:55.000 I'd have to say the cheese variety, but I've only ever had original in the cheese.

01:55:00.000 DA says, You had Dave the Rat on before Vox Day as a fellow Catholic.

01:55:05.000 I must shame you. 0.97

01:55:06.000 Shame, shame, shame.

01:55:08.000 I got to get Vox Day.

01:55:09.000 I keep forgetting.

01:55:10.000 He's not on Twitter.

01:55:11.000 What can I say?

01:55:12.000 If you're not on Twitter, and that's where I spend all my time, I forget very easily.

01:55:18.000 So.

01:55:21.000 I'll leave a note to myself after this show.

01:55:23.000 How's that?

01:55:25.000 The Weekly Sweat says, check out the number two live stream, The Weekly Sweat.

01:55:29.000 Are you guys on right now?

01:55:31.000 Let me pull it up.

01:55:32.000 YouTube.

01:55:33.000 I can't believe you guys are number two.

01:55:36.000 YouTube live streams, and we'll just see who's number two.

01:55:41.000 We'll just see about that.

01:55:44.000 Kind of a shame that The Weekly Sweat is trying to stream cuck me like this, but let's take a look.

01:55:49.000 It's not in the featured.

01:55:50.000 Is it in live now?

01:55:51.000 It's not in live now.

01:55:53.000 Where would it be then?

01:55:54.000 Would it be in recommended?

01:55:56.000 Or did you guys stop streaming?

01:55:58.000 Let me just Google Weekly Sweat.

01:56:02.000 I'll search it on YouTube, I mean.

01:56:05.000 It must have stopped streaming.

01:56:07.000 But hey, congratulations.

01:56:08.000 I'm a big friend of The Weekly Sweat, big fan as well.

01:56:12.000 So, congratulations, fellas.

01:56:14.000 You finally made it.

01:56:15.000 We need The Weekly Sweat to be a top tier program.

01:56:18.000 We need that to happen every week.

01:56:19.000 You guys need to be number one. 0.90

01:56:21.000 And then we will finally create the Ethno Planet. 0.97

01:56:26.000 Just joking.

01:56:27.000 Jake Destabia, to what degree do you agree with Kaczynski's psychological assessment of lefties, where he mentions their inferiority complex and over socialization?

01:56:36.000 I think it's very true.

01:56:37.000 I would agree to that to a big extent. 0.99

01:56:39.000 He says it's a mental disorder. 0.99

01:56:41.000 That's true.

01:56:42.000 He says it's the most prominent and the most prolific form of mental illness in the world.

01:56:48.000 And I agree with that very strongly because it does not jive with anything we know to be true about people.

01:56:57.000 Except that it satisfies mediocrity, basically.

01:57:00.000 I mean, that's the people that want equality are people who are sad, people who are below average, or people who think that other people are below average and are, you know, want to save them and do good for them and they empathize with them and all that.

01:57:16.000 So I think it's very true because you don't find a lot of lefties in rural areas where people are not over socialized in urban environments and all that.

01:57:27.000 So I'm a big believer in.

01:57:29.000 What he says about the left.

01:57:31.000 Now, I don't agree with Kaczynski on everything, granted.

01:57:33.000 Certainly not the violence.

01:57:35.000 But he was definitely a genius.

01:57:37.000 His IQ is 167.

01:57:39.000 So people who write him off are making a big mistake.

01:57:43.000 But it looks like those are all our super chats.

01:57:46.000 I'm going to see if we have any other Streamlabs.

01:57:49.000 We'll see.

01:57:50.000 I think we've got two more here.

01:57:52.000 Problematic White Knight says, Hope this is not too far off topic, but Razorfist has made a video about communism in Hollywood, even factually names a few of them.

01:58:02.000 Then today goes after skeptics, socialists, and neocons.

01:58:05.000 Sounds like he could be a good guest for you one day.

01:58:08.000 I'll have to check it out.

01:58:10.000 Maybe I'll bring him on.

01:58:11.000 Trince de la Dentro says, I sense some cognitive dissonance coming from this Sherrod character.

01:58:16.000 Will he ever come around?

01:58:18.000 Perhaps.

01:58:19.000 I think there's hope for everybody, you know, but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon.

01:58:23.000 So we got to pray for our buddy David.

01:58:26.000 He'll come around eventually.

01:58:27.000 Maybe after I beat him in a couple of debates, he'll see the light.

01:58:31.000 But that's going to do it for us on our show today.

01:58:33.000 Thank you, everybody who joined us.

01:58:35.000 Thank you to our guests, David and Vic Berger.

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02:00:00.000 Mr. Medicare on Wednesday, Mike Ma and Bronze Age Pervert on Friday. 0.78

02:00:04.000 So we'll see you then. 0.92

02:00:06.000 Have a great weekend and have a great rest of your evening.

02:00:13.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

02:00:21.000 It's going to be only America first.

02:00:24.000 America first. 0.99

02:00:25.000 The American people will come first once again.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - July 19, 2018

Dissecting Progressivism feat. David Sherratt | America First Ep. 204

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