Nikki Haley is running for president of the United States in 2020. She is a former U.N. ambassador and former governor of South Carolina. She has been a member of the U.S. State Department and served as ambassador to the United Nations. She also served as the head of the South Carolina Department of Education and was the first woman to serve as South Carolina s governor. In this episode, we discuss why she s running for President in 2020 and what it means to be a woman in the White House. We also talk about why she is running and why she thinks she s the best choice to take on President Trump and why it s time for her to give up on her chances of winning the primary election. Nikki Haley has been an outspoken opponent of President Donald Trump and has been one of the most vocal critics of him throughout the primary campaign. But is she really running against him or is she running against the establishment? Or is she supporting him because of the money that s flowing into his campaign from corporate interests and the liberal billionaire George Soros Jr.? Find out this week on HOSTAGE. Subscribe to our new show Hosted by: John Rocha and Alex Blumberg and stay tuned for our next episode next Wednesday for Part 2 of the Democratic Primary Debates featuring the Democratic front-runner, Hillary Clinton and her campaign manager, Adam Gellman Sarah Palin on the Democratic primary debate. and the Democratic challenger, Ron DeSantis . and find out who s running against her in the most likely to win the primary and who s going to be the Democratic nomination and who is going to win in the primary. in the CNN primary on Tuesday, February 15, 2020. And stay tuned to find out if she s got it all! and who will be the most authentic and who has the best chance of winning! of the 2020 Democratic primary or who s gonna win it! in this episode of HOSTED by John RATE and much more! on our new podcast, is it? and in our new episode of the next episode of ! and we will have a special guest on the other side of the primary debate on Tuesday night. on Monday, February 19th, and more. at 7/27, on next Tuesday, at 8/30 at 9/9/19.
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00:00:00.000Just to respond to Ron, he continues to lie about my record.
00:00:04.000I actually said his Don't Say Gay Bill didn't go far enough because it only talked about gender until the third grade.
00:00:09.000And I said it shouldn't be done at all, that that's for parents to talk about, it shouldn't be talked about with schools.
00:00:14.000In reference to donors coming on board, look, we will take support from anybody we can take support from.
00:00:21.000But I have been a conservative fighter all my life.
00:00:24.000I was a Tea Party candidate when I became governor.
00:00:27.000We opposed every single corporate bailout we possibly could.
00:02:02.000I said that if you have to be 18 to get a tattoo, you should have to be 18 to have anything done to change your gender.
00:02:09.000You said the law should stay out of it.
00:02:12.000We're gonna get to this in more detail later.
00:02:15.000Let's finish with electability but trust me we're coming back to this issue.
00:02:18.000Mr. Ramaswamy, for months you campaigned as a unifier.
00:02:22.000Then you stood up at the first debate and attacked all of your competitors as bought and paid for.
00:02:27.000The second debate you changed your tune saying these are good people on this stage admitting you can come across as a bit of a know-it-all and rejecting the practice of personal insults.
00:02:38.000By debate number three, you called Nikki Haley corrupt, accused Ron DeSantis of wearing high heels, and told Ambassador Haley she should keep a closer eye on her daughter.
00:02:46.000Can you see how this has led some to conclude you are not, in fact, a unifier, and to question your authenticity?
00:02:53.000Megan, I think there's a time and place for everything.
00:02:56.000We need somebody in the White House who absolutely is going to be a fighter when it counts.
00:03:00.000And I did say that there were some good people on that stage in that third debate.
00:03:04.000Doug Burgum was on that stage at that time.
00:03:06.000And I'll say that jokingly, Ron DeSantis is a good person too.
00:03:09.000I want to go back though to Nikki Haley's comment from earlier, that she is somehow not responding to the will of these donors.
00:03:16.000Nikki, you were bankrupt when you left the U.N.
00:03:19.000After you left the U.N., you became a military contractor.
00:03:23.000You actually started joining service on the board of Boeing, whose back you scratched for a very long time, and then gave foreign multinational speeches like Hillary Clinton is, and now you're a multimillionaire.
00:03:36.000It adds up to the fact that you are corrupt.
00:03:38.000And when I said they were bought and paid for, I meant the Republican establishment, not the Democratic establishment.
00:03:44.000Now you have Reid Hoffman, the person who's effectively George Soros Jr.
00:03:49.000funding lawsuits across this country against Donald Trump to keep him off the ballot, funding left-wing causes.
00:03:56.000We discovered this week that he is one of Nikki Haley's largest supporters.
00:04:00.000Larry Fink, the king of the woke industrial complex, the ESG movement, the CEO of BlackRock, the most powerful company in the world, now supporting Nikki Haley.
00:04:09.000And to say that doesn't affect her is false, because it's after that meeting later that day that she says that every American needs to be doxxed by having their ID, their government-issued ID, tied to what they say on the Internet.
00:04:23.000So I think that this is far more corrupt than I even imagined when I entered politics.
00:05:25.000And then when they decided after COVID that they wanted to go for a corporate bailout, I've never supported corporate bailout, so I respectfully stepped back and got off the board.
00:05:47.000And in terms of these donors that are supporting me, they're just jealous.
00:05:50.000They wish that they were supporting them, but I'm not going to sit there and do nothing.
00:05:58.000He wrote a book talking about ESG and these woke corporations and BlackRock.
00:06:03.000The idea that I want to do that in Florida, they were managing our pension, part of our pension, and then when they did the ESG, I took two billion dollars away from BlackRock.
00:06:13.000This ESG, they call it Environment Social Governance, and again Nikki is meeting with all these people, they want to use economic power to impose a left-wing agenda.
00:06:47.000I didn't write that book, Ron, and the irony is Nikki Haley was heaping praise on me when I wrote that book, but now I worry I was warning about the woke industrial complex in this country as a warning.
00:06:58.000Apparently she read it as a how-to manual, just like she reads George Orwell's books as well, and so I think that that's actually far more dangerous than... This is really important for people to understand.
00:07:08.000We're marching towards fascism under Biden.
00:07:10.000Jack Smith has subpoenaed every last retweet that someone has issued from Donald Trump in the year 2020.
00:07:17.000The only person more fascist than the Biden regime now is Nikki Haley, who thinks the government should identify every one of those individuals with an ID.
00:09:26.000This cracks me up because Ron is so hypocritical because he actually went and tried to push a law that would stop anonymous people from talking to the press and went so far to say bloggers should have to register with the state if they're going to talk about, write about elected officials.
00:09:44.000It was in the, check your newspaper, it was absolutely there.
00:10:27.000Your best state is New Hampshire, and even there, two-thirds of GOP voters say they would be angry and disappointed if you won.
00:10:35.000Respectfully, Governor, you have not stopped, Mr. Trump, and voters may wonder how you could possibly become the nominee of a party that does not appear to like you very much.
00:10:44.000Well, look, Megan, it's often very difficult
00:10:48.000To be the only person on the stage who's telling the truth, and the only person who is taking on what needs to be taken on.
00:10:56.000We're 17 minutes into this debate, and except for your little speech in the beginning, we've had these three acting as if the race is between the four of us.
00:11:07.000The fifth guy, who doesn't have the guts to show up and stand here,
00:11:12.000He's the one who, as you just put it, is way ahead in the polls.
00:11:15.000And yet, I've got these three guys who are all seemingly to compete with, you know, Voldemort.
00:11:25.000The fact is that when you go and you say the truth about somebody who is a dictator, a bully, who has taken shots at everybody, whether they've given him great service or not over time, who dares to disagree with him,
00:11:41.000Then I understand why the Fees Three are timid to say anything about it.
00:11:46.000Maybe it's because they have future aspirations.
00:11:48.000Maybe those future aspirations are now or maybe they're four years from now.
00:11:52.000But the fact of the matter is the truth needs to be told.
00:11:55.000And for us to go 17 minutes without discussing the guy who has all those gaudy numbers you talked about,
00:12:08.000This is a guy who just said this past week that he wants to use the Department of Justice to go after his enemies when he gets in there.
00:12:15.000I mean the fact of the matter is he is unfit to be president and there is no bigger issue in this race, Megan, than Donald Trump and those numbers prove it.
00:12:24.000Governor Christie, we will be addressing that issue of Donald Trump in just a moment, but I'd like to first get to some questions on Israel.
00:12:34.000Governor DeSantis, tonight as we speak the war is back on in Gaza.
00:12:39.000Israeli tanks are on the move and have surrounded the home of the leader of Hamas.
00:12:44.000Eight Americans have been held hostage in the tunnels beneath Gaza for 60 days now.
00:12:50.000American troops and warships in the Middle East are under attack.
00:12:54.000How far would you go as president to secure the release of those eight American hostages?
00:12:59.000And would it include sending American forces into combat?
00:14:53.000You said, would you send American troops as commander-in-chief, and he went on to this minute-and-thirty-second hosanna about his knowledge of the military and what we need to do, and didn't answer your question.
00:15:07.000When you're President of the United States, you're not going to have a choice whether to answer that question or not.
00:15:12.000Your generals, your Secretary of Defense, your Secretary of State, your National Security Advisor are going to present plans to you, they're going to look at you and say, do we go or don't we, Mr. President?
00:15:21.000And you can't give a 90-second speech about your military service, as laudable as it is.
00:15:24.000So would you send American troops in to rescue those hostages?
00:15:29.000If they had a plan which showed me that we could get them out safely, you're damn right I'd send the American Army in there to get our people home and get them home now and I'll answer that question directly.
00:15:43.000Mr. Ramaswamy, you have said it was irresponsible for Ambassador Haley to call Hamas' terrorist rampage an attack on America and for her to, quote, rabidly shout, finish them, end quote.
00:15:56.000The Hamas terror attack left dozens of Americans dead and was the deadliest attack on Jews since the Holocaust.
00:16:03.000Why wouldn't it be a good thing to finish Hamas?
00:16:07.000Finish Them was purposefully vague in a discussion that included Iran, which is what I objected to.
00:16:12.000And I think as US President, you have to be responsible.
00:16:16.000What happened to Israel was dead wrong.
00:16:43.000So I believe I have the strongest pro-Israel position actually on the stage, even though it's a little bit different than the standard GOP talking points.
00:16:51.000The founding vision of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, the George Washington figure of Israel, what did he believe?
00:16:56.000He believed that we don't want, as Israel, to depend on the fleeting sympathies of the West and have our hands tied.
00:17:03.000I think Israel has an absolute right to defend itself to the fullest without the U.S., the U.N., or the E.U.
00:17:10.000or anybody else second-guessing their decisions, as the Biden administration, guess what, is now starting to do.
00:17:15.000I think that's a more deeply pro-Israel position than anybody else, and it keeps the actual lines of accountability clear because it is a pro-American position.
00:17:24.000And as leader of the United States of America, just as a father of two sons, my sole moral duty is to my family.
00:17:30.000As your next president, my sole moral duty is to you, the people of this country.
00:17:37.000So I'll tell Bibi, you smoke the terrorists on your southern border, you go ahead and we're rooting for you.
00:17:41.000We're going to smoke the terrorists on our own southern border, and that's how I'm going to lead this country.
00:17:46.000But Americans were killed in that attack.
00:17:48.000Americans were killed in that attack and so if you if you looked at this terrorist attack and the number of Americans this would be one of the top ten terrorist attacks in American history.
00:17:58.000So our own people were killed in that attack and I think it's absolutely appropriate to point that out and to say that we're in this together and we are going to work with Israel so that these people are brought to justice.
00:18:34.000Were you saying that it's time to bomb Iran?
00:18:36.000No, I was not saying it's time to bomb Iran, but I will tell you I dealt with Iran every day when I was at the United Nations and they only respond to strength.
00:18:46.000What they don't respond to is when you weaken the sanctions like they did on Iran that allowed China to send them billions to fill their proxies.
00:18:53.000What they don't respond to is when you give six billion dollars for five hostages.
00:18:58.000That only makes them want more hostages.
00:19:39.000When he hit rock bottom, all of a sudden, his other friend, Iran, Hamas goes and invades Israel and butchers those people on Putin's birthday.
00:20:25.000I want to say one thing about the tie to Ukraine.
00:20:29.000Foreign policy experience is not the same as foreign policy wisdom.
00:20:34.000I want everybody at home to know that I was the first person to say we need a reasonable peace deal in Ukraine.
00:20:40.000Now a lot of the neocons are quietly coming along to that position with the exceptions of Nikki Haley and Joe Biden who still support this what I believe is pointless war in Ukraine.
00:20:50.000And I think those with foreign policy experience, one thing that Joe Biden and Nikki Haley have in common, is that neither of them could even state for you three provinces in eastern Ukraine that they want to send our troops to actually fight for.
00:21:04.000This is what I want people to understand.
00:21:05.000These people have... I mean, she has no idea what the hell the names of those provinces are, but she wants to send... She doesn't even... Wow!
00:23:00.000She wouldn't be able to find something on a map that his three-year-old could find.
00:23:04.000Look, if you want to disagree on issues, that's fine.
00:23:06.000And Nikki and I disagree on some issues.
00:23:09.000But I'll tell you this, I've known her for 12 years, which is longer than he's even started to vote in a Republican primary.
00:23:18.000And while we disagree about some issues, and we disagree about who should be President of the United States, what we don't disagree on is, this is a smart, accomplished woman.
00:23:58.000I think if you're going to actually send your sons and daughters to go die in somebody else's war, you better... Excuse me, Chris, I'm speaking, and I'm not done yet.
00:25:50.000And so, the fact of the matter is, back then he was a Democrat.
00:25:54.000So, the fact is, the fact is that all he knows how to do, all he knows how to do, all he knows how to do is insult good people who have committed their lives to public service and not say anything that moves the ball down the field for the United States.
00:27:01.000And that's the best part, of course, is that Nikki Haley, Chris Christie are neocons.
00:27:06.000They, of course, are different from most Republicans in the sense that they do support basically a blank check war guarantee for Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan, which is this new World War III conflict, basically.
00:27:22.000And he points out about Nikki Haley, he goes, you know, you don't even know, you can't name the three provinces which are really at stake here.
00:27:31.000The three, well really it's two or four breakaway provinces in eastern Ukraine that Russia has invaded and now occupies.
00:27:40.000And I swear I thought she was going to name him.
00:27:42.000I swear I thought she was going to retort and say, oh, it's this, that, and the other.
00:27:46.000You know, because I would imagine, remember, she was the UN ambassador.
00:27:52.000She was the United States ambassador to the United Nations.
00:27:57.000And it's not like this is a new issue, okay?
00:27:59.000The Ukraine, the current Ukraine crisis has been going on at least since 2014.
00:28:05.000And she was the UN Ambassador from, I think, 2017 to 2019.
00:33:40.000But we have to lean in on this problem.
00:33:42.000I am not going to sit there and allow mothers to lose more kids because of fentanyl overdose.
00:33:48.000I am not going to sit there and let sex trafficking go unabated or human trafficking go unabated.
00:33:53.000There's going to be a new sheriff in town and these drug cartels better buckle up.
00:34:00.000Ambassador Haley, you have plans to catch and deport all migrants who are here in this country illegally, but then you said in Londonderry, New Hampshire last month that you will not deport those who are working and paying taxes rather than feeding off the system.
00:34:47.000You have to go and deport these people so that they know it can't happen again.
00:34:50.000For those that have been here longer than that, we've got to start seeing who is it, how long have they been here, have they been vetted, have they paid taxes, have they been working, and figure out who else is out there.
00:35:03.000But what I know is my parents came here legally.
00:35:48.000Because here he allowed fentanyl to continue to come over.
00:35:52.000He continued to allow them to take—he would give them technology that would build up their military and hurt us.
00:35:58.000He allowed the Chinese infiltration for them to buy up farmland, to put money in our universities, and to continue to do things that were harmful for America.
00:36:06.000We now have a spy base in Cuba and police stations, and Trump didn't do anything about it.
00:38:01.000Over the past year, Fentanyl has killed more than 75,000 Americans, 1,000 of them right here in Alabama.
00:38:08.000You have vowed to use the military to, quote, annihilate drug labs inside Mexico, something the President of Mexico said would be a hostile act.
00:38:16.000But Fentanyl can easily be made anywhere, and labs that are shut down can easily and quickly be replaced.
00:38:23.000Are your tough enforcement policies offering false hope to a country wracked by addiction?
00:38:29.000To the contrary, I don't think it's going to have to come to that if we deal with the actual demand-side problem that we also have in this country.
00:38:36.000I mean, the easy part is talking about how we're going to use our military to secure the border.
00:38:39.000I will, and I believe that everybody else wants to do the same thing.
00:38:43.000But the harder part is dealing with the crisis of purpose and meaning, the mental health epidemic raging across this country like wildfire.
00:39:06.000Is thinking that we're going to have dealt with that underlying mental health epidemic in this country by just dealing with the demand side of it.
00:39:13.000But I want to get back to this issue of the root cause because a lot of these are coming from labs in Wuhan, China of all places.
00:39:20.000Drug materials that are going to the Mexican drug cartels that they're pumping across that southern border like a modern opium war.
00:39:26.000I think it is going to take a US president that's going to have a very different conversation with Xi Jinping than what Joe Biden just had in California.
00:39:35.000I will tell Xi Jinping, you will not only not buy land in this country or donate to universities in this country, US businesses won't expand into the Chinese market until they're playing by the same set of rules.
00:41:41.000Grow our economy so that people have more money in their pockets.
00:41:45.000We've got to look at the supply chain and make sure that we are funneling that so that builders don't have to sit there and go overseas to find things.
00:41:52.000And then we need to make sure that we really stop paying down this debt, make sure that we stop the borrowing, stop the spending.
00:41:58.000I'll veto any spending bill that doesn't take us back to pre-COVID levels because our kids are not going to forgive us for all the spending that happened.
00:42:06.000And as much as everybody wants to talk about how Donald Trump had a good economy, $9 trillion in debt he did just in four years.
00:42:15.000And we're all paying the price of that, including those mortgage prices.
00:42:19.000We're going to come back to President Trump, I promise.
00:42:22.000Governor DeSantis, the latest News Nation decision desk poll found that inflation tops the worries of American voters.
00:42:29.00061% say they're very concerned and the working class is hardest hit.
00:42:35.000Economists say this was fueled by a glut of federal spending.
00:42:39.000The Biden administration has added $6 trillion to the national debt so far.
00:42:44.000But President Trump wasn't exactly a penny pincher.
00:43:57.000What I'm going to do, though, is I'm going to get to the root cause of the problem.
00:44:00.000These student loans are going to be backed by the universities because they need to have an incentive to produce gainful employment for people.
00:44:08.000They should not be indulging in ideological studies.
00:44:11.000They should be focusing on things that work.
00:44:13.000And we're going to take some of this money, and we're going to move it to actual vocational training.
00:44:17.000In Florida, we doubled apprenticeships.
00:44:31.000And we're going to fix that problem in the United States of America.
00:44:37.000Mr. Ramaswamy, you praise cryptocurrency like Bitcoin as an opt-out from our quote, broken financial architecture, and you oppose efforts to regulate it.
00:44:48.000The head of the largest international crypto exchange just pleaded guilty to allowing his platform to launder money for terrorists, including Hamas.
00:45:19.000Shows that whatever they have as the current framework isn't working.
00:45:22.000And I think it is nothing short of embarrassing that Gary Gensler, the current leader of the SEC, in front of Congress, could not even say whether Ethereum counted as a regulated security or not.
00:45:34.000And so I think that this is just another example of the administrative state gone too far.
00:45:39.000Here's the dirty little secret in American politics today.
00:45:42.000The people who we elect to run the government are not the ones who are even actually
00:46:14.000We will rescind any regulation that fails the test of West Virginia versus EPA, which is the most important Supreme Court case of our lifetime, that said if Congress didn't delegate that to an administrative agency, then it's unconstitutional.
00:46:30.000These are big changes that the next president can deliver without asking Congress for permission or for forgiveness.
00:46:37.000And I want people to understand that distinction, because people have been sold myths by politicians for a long time, saying, I'm gonna work with Congress to do this or that.
00:46:44.000Much of what you've heard on the stage from the other politicians fit that description.
00:47:57.000They get fewer and fewer viewers with every successive one.
00:48:01.000I think the first one was the most viewed.
00:48:03.000The most recent one was the least viewed.
00:48:05.000And like Chris Christie said in the beginning, none of these people are going to be the nominee.
00:48:10.000And they have to run through Donald Trump and that's just not going to happen.
00:48:14.000So, when they talk about China and the economy, one, I mean there's very little daylight between any of them on these issues and they all have great ideas and it sounds nice.
00:48:44.000No one's gonna remember that for the fourth time they said the thing about Nikki Haley said that China's our great friend because they're helping us with North Korea.
00:48:53.000No one's gonna remember that, you know, the distinction between Haley and DeSantis on confronting China and whatever.
00:49:00.000Um, what people are going to remember is that this is just like the end for the neocons.
00:49:08.000That Trump came out in 16 and said, the war in Iraq was a big fat mistake!
00:49:14.000And they said they had weapons of mass destruction, there weren't any, and they knew there weren't any!
00:49:20.000Like, that was the beginning, this is the end.
00:49:24.000And now Vivek comes in there and says, you want to send our kids to fight and die in Ukraine, you can't even name the provinces they're fighting for.
00:49:57.000And it just goes to show these people have no credibility.
00:50:00.000They come up there, and that was the big sort of pants on the ground moment with Trump and Hillary, where he went up there and said the political establishment is not as serious as everyone thinks it is.
00:50:13.000Everyone thinks they have all this legitimacy that comes from their credibility.
00:51:28.000America First conservatives have been saying that a lot longer than anybody realizes.
00:51:33.000In the late 80s, Russell Kirk, who was at that time very old and like a legend in the conservative movement, he went to the Heritage Foundation, gave a big controversial speech, and basically said the same thing.
00:51:45.000He said, Israel is not the capital of the United States.
00:51:48.000Pat Buchanan said this, Joseph Sobran said this.
00:51:51.000People have been saying this even before the second war in Iraq, before a lot of this stuff.
00:51:56.000So, for Vivek to bring that out, that's even more base than Trump.
00:52:00.000To say, hey, you can't find Israel on a map, and Israel's not America.
00:53:03.000Ambassador Haley, do you support President Trump's plan for ideological screening?
00:53:07.000Well, I don't think that you have a straight-up Muslim ban as much as you look at the countries that have terrorist activity that want to hurt Americans.
00:53:14.000You do, you can ban those people from those countries.
00:53:17.000Okay, Rumble removed me from the front page.
01:01:26.000I don't know how he would score on a test, but I know this.
01:01:30.000We have an opportunity to nominate someone and elect someone for two terms who's going to be spitting nails on day one and for eight years deliver you big results.
01:01:39.000We should not nominate somebody who's almost 80 years old.
01:02:30.000If you're afraid to offend Donald Trump, then what are you going to do when you sit across from President Xi, you sit across from the Ayatollah, you sit across from Putin?
01:02:44.000You have to be willing to offend with the truth.
01:02:54.000It's about pointing out, do you want to elect somebody who will be older than Biden was when he went in 2021?
01:03:03.000I don't think he's as bad as Biden was at all, but I do think that over a four year period, it is not a job for somebody that's pushing 80.
01:05:47.000We should empower parents to be teaching the values that they believe in, in their homes, without the government telling them what those values should be.
01:05:55.000And yet, we want to take other parental rights away.
01:06:17.000You look at these jokers down in Congress.
01:06:20.000It takes them three weeks to pick a speaker, and up until two days ago, they couldn't promote somebody in the military in the United States Senate who earned their new rank.
01:06:29.000And we're going to put my children's health and my decisions in their hands?
01:06:44.000I think it's a very, very dangerous thing to do.
01:06:48.000But that's my opinion as a parent, Megan.
01:06:51.000And I get to make the decisions about my children, not anybody else.
01:06:55.000And every parent out there who's watching tonight, you start to turn over just a little bit of this authority, the authority they're going to take from you next, you're not going to like.
01:07:03.000I'll stand up for parents each and every time.
01:07:05.000So there are laws banning smoking or drinking by a child.
01:07:34.000And it said that there is no duty for schools to notify parents if their son or daughter changes their gender identity, allowing this serious issue to remain a secret between the school and a child.
01:07:45.000How is any of that pro-parental rights?
01:09:41.000I think the North Star here is transgenderism is a mental health disorder.
01:09:45.000We don't let you smoke a cigarette by the age of 18.
01:09:47.000We don't let you have an addictive drink of alcohol by the age of 21.
01:09:51.000And I just challenge Ron DeSantis to go one step further and support what I think is clearly within the authority to do using federal funds just like Reagan did in 84 for the
01:10:00.000Highway Act that said the minimum drinking age needs to be 21.
01:10:03.000We can do the same thing when it comes to banning genital mutilation or chemical castration.
01:10:09.000I know Ron's been unclear on that on the federal level.
01:10:27.000So first of all, I will say that when I was governor, ten years ago when the bathroom situation came up,
01:10:35.000We had maybe a handful of kids that were dealing with an issue.
01:10:39.000And I said, we don't need to bring government into this, but boys go into boys' bathrooms, girls go into girls' bathrooms, and if anyone else has an issue, they use a private bathroom.
01:10:51.000Now, ten years later, we see that this issue has exploded.
01:10:55.000And this shows how hypocritical Ron continues to be.
01:10:58.000When he was running for governor, and they asked him about that, he said he didn't think bathroom bills were a good use of his time.
01:11:44.000You are not going to talk about my state like that, because I will tell you for a fact, South Carolinians never allowed that to happen, and we did not have that issue at the time.
01:11:54.000What I have always said is boys going to a boys' bathroom, girls going to a girls' bathroom, but hold on one second.
01:12:00.000I also say that biological boys shouldn't be playing in girls' sports, and I will do everything I can to stop that, because it's a women's issue of our time.
01:12:11.000Of course, I actually get this stuff done.
01:12:16.000Mr. Ramaswamy, when discussing your Hindu faith in September, you seemed to take a shot at Ambassador Haley, who is also Indian-American and who converted to Christianity as an adult.
01:12:27.000You said, an easy thing for me to do, being a politician, is to shorten my name, profess to be a Christian, and then run.
01:12:38.000Are you questioning Nikki Haley's Christian convictions?
01:12:41.000And why has your campaign made a point of referring to Ambassador Haley by her given first name, Nimroda, even though she's gone by Nikki for her whole life?
01:12:49.000Well my whole deal is if Nikki Haley of all people should know how to pronounce my name correctly, the rest of the news media can learn it.
01:12:55.000My deal is I'll call her Nikki when she can say my own name right.
01:13:46.000After the third debate, when I criticized Ronna McDaniel after five failed years of leadership of this party, and criticized Nikki for her corrupt foreign dealings as a military contractor, she said that I have a woman problem.
01:15:12.000President Trump and many of his supporters claim federal law enforcement agencies have abused his civil rights for the last eight years by, among other things, spying on him and now prosecuting him while having treated Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden with kid gloves.
01:15:29.000A recent Gallup poll shows that Americans think more highly of the U.S.
01:15:33.000Postal Service than they do the FBI or Justice Department.
01:15:37.000What would you do as president to restore the faith of the American people in these agencies?
01:15:44.000Well, first off, I'm the only person on this stage who's actually done a job in the Department of Justice.
01:15:50.000Attorney in New Jersey in the fifth largest office in this country, appointed by President Bush on September 10th, 2001.
01:15:58.000And it was an extraordinary time in this country to be on the front lines of fighting the greatest attack against our country since Pearl Harbor.
01:16:07.000And I'm proud of the seven years I spent in the Justice Department.
01:16:11.000And one of the reasons I am is because I had an Attorney General when I came in named John Ashcroft.
01:16:17.000And John Ashcroft stood up and told each and every one of us our job was to do one thing, to make sure justice was done every day regardless of partisanship, regardless of gender or race or any other consideration.
01:16:32.000And that's what we did for seven years and at a time when our country was at its greatest moment of danger in the last 40 years.
01:17:19.000And now, our current Attorney General, who have not met that standard.
01:17:24.000And the only way you restore people's faith in the justice system is to put someone like that in charge of the Justice Department, and then as President, to get the hell out of the way on anything that involves criminal investigations.
01:17:38.000If a President's involved in trying to do something and put their thumb on the scales, Donald Trump says he will do.
01:18:39.000No mass mail balloting and no ballot harvesting.
01:18:42.000We even have an agency that prosecutes people for violating election laws.
01:18:47.000The result of that, in both 2020 and 2022, we counted millions and millions of votes on election night, produced the results, it was transparent, and everybody was happy.
01:18:57.000That is not happening throughout this country.
01:19:59.000Hey listen up Buster Buckley hang on to your diapers Buster cuz there's gonna be a new guy in town yeah I mean so honestly so much of this debate is really just a useless exercise a lot of filler but that that was uh you know I still can't get over that right honestly I don't really care about any of it other than the first part that did it for me
01:20:29.000That was the best moment of the night.
01:20:34.000No, but Vivek had a good answer on that.
01:20:36.000I like the pivot, you know, because they asked him about this remark, which honestly would probably be offensive to Christians if he... because it is sort of an offensive remark.
01:20:48.000He's like basically accusing her of not being an authentic Indian and kind of attacking her for assimilating.
01:20:55.000I mean, to the extent that we have immigrants in the country,
01:20:59.000Don't we want them to change their names and convert to Christianity?
01:21:59.000We should not become pro-mass migration or whatever.
01:22:04.000And yet, Republicans don't see how toxic that is.
01:22:08.000It's almost like Republicans think that when Republicans do it, it's sort of kitschy, and they feel good about it, like we're catching up.
01:22:16.000In other words, the left puts up their diversity slate, and they say, here's all our black women, and Republicans say, oh, that's identity politics, that's wrong, etc.
01:22:46.000And it's like, dude, we don't beat the left by becoming the left.
01:22:50.000We don't defeat the left by becoming the party of diversity, pandering to women, pandering to non-whites, pandering to homosexuals and trannies.
01:22:59.000And so I like that he called that out and said, when you go on television and say, if you want someone to talk about it, get a man, and you want to get it done, get a woman.
01:23:18.000And then he also threw in the barb that she's corrupt.
01:23:20.000And I like that he's... I think that he could have made that a little more clear.
01:23:24.000But it's really important that he hits her as corrupt because, remember, and this is something I talked about with Destiny last year.
01:23:32.000Me and Destiny, we were kind of coming to an understanding about a year ago.
01:23:35.000We were kind of, I think, talking in good faith.
01:23:38.000And I remember telling him, like, one of the fundamental differences is I understand the system's totally corrupt.
01:23:43.000I said a perfect example of this is Nikki Haley is the governor of South Carolina.
01:23:47.000She defeats some pro-union thing and gets Boeing to come over and build the plant there as governor of South Carolina.
01:23:56.000She's appointed the UN ambassador by Trump and then when she leaves that position she gets put on the board of Boeing.
01:24:03.000I said now that's obviously a corrupt bargain.
01:24:06.000That she's the governor of South Carolina.
01:24:08.000She passes some friendly, I think it was a right-to-work thing against the unions that help Boeing, and Boeing came in.
01:24:15.000She has this fake position in the federal government, and then she lines up a very high-paying board seat, and one of the defense contractors, Boeing is one of the major defense contractors, one of the major companies in the country.
01:24:27.000One of our biggest exports is airplanes.
01:24:33.000And so when Vivek says she's fucking corrupt, she wants to send your kids to die in Ukraine because she's owned by the defense contractors, that's a really important point.
01:24:41.000I don't think he made it very clear, but I like that he's... the energy's right that he keeps pushing that.
01:24:48.000House Republicans yesterday hauled elite university presidents up to Capitol Hill to answer for the displays of anti-Semitism on college campuses.
01:24:57.000These leaders, including the President of Harvard, were asked whether calling for the genocide of the Jews would violate school policies against harassment and intimidation.
01:25:08.000All of them said it would depend on the context, including whether that speech veers into conduct.
01:25:14.000How do you think these schools and the rest of society should balance the imperative of free speech against the need to prevent radical activists from harassing and intimidating others?
01:25:25.000It was disgusting to see what happened.
01:25:27.000You know, if this had been the KKK that was doing protests on those campuses,
01:25:32.000Every one of those college presidents would have been up in arms.
01:25:37.000The idea that they would go and allow that kind of pro-Hamas protest, or agree with the genocide of Jews, and try and say that they needed context on that?
01:25:48.000This is what we need to do to deal with it.
01:25:50.000First of all, we have got to get foreign money out of our universities.
01:25:54.000You've got Arab money, you've got Chinese money, you've got others.
01:25:57.000We need to go to every university and say you either take foreign money or you take American money, but the days of taking both are over.
01:26:03.000The second thing we need to do... The second thing we need to do is we need... Biden made a mistake not including anti-Zionism in the definition of anti-Semitism.
01:27:15.000That explains a lot about my life, because all I do is watch TikTok.
01:27:27.000In our country, the FBI director told the Senate panel just yesterday that he sees, quote, blinking red lights everywhere, and that the threat level has, quote, gone to a whole nother level since October 7th.
01:27:40.000Which of the threats facing our country do you worry could blindside us?
01:27:44.000What worries me and what keeps me up at night is what happens between now and election day while Joe Biden's in office.
01:27:51.000That's what worries me more than anything else.
01:27:53.000But I'll tell you that America right now is acting like it's September 10th.
01:27:59.000We better remember what September 12th felt like.
01:28:03.000And whether you're looking at open borders that are allowing people to come in, Iran knows the easiest way to get to America is through the southern border.
01:28:11.000And we're not doing anything to stop it.
01:28:13.000We've got to get the foreign infiltration out of our country.
01:28:17.000Whether it's in our schools, whether it's on our social media, whether it's we need to stop all foreign lobbying that's happening to members of Congress, and we need to start securing America again.
01:28:27.000Until we do that, we are going to be at threat.
01:29:36.000Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm coming to you next.
01:30:00.000Okay, I'm coming to you next on Taiwan.
01:30:02.000You said, if you want to stop Xi from invading Taiwan, quote, let's open a branch of the NRA in Taiwan and put an AR-15 in the hands of every family and train them how to use it.
01:30:13.000That will give Xi a taste of American exceptionalism, end quote.
01:30:18.000The National Police in Taiwan announced a zero-gun policy last year.
01:30:55.000I also do believe the Second Amendment is a critical way of preventing foreign autocrats from being able to... It's worked in America, why wouldn't it work in Taiwan?
01:31:18.000Because we depend on them for our modern way of life.
01:31:21.000Why do we depend on them for our modern way of life?
01:31:23.000It's because Nikki Haley's latest friends, like Larry Fink, have created co-mingled economies, with BlackRock, Telen, Exxon, and Chevron, they can't drill here, while being a shareholder of PetroChina, not applying those same constraints in China.
01:31:36.000So it is our economic dependence on China that makes us scared.
01:31:39.000If that were a Russian spy balloon, we'd have shot it down in an instant.
01:31:42.000If that were a Russian spy base in Cuba, we'd be turning the... we'd be...
01:32:26.000That there is going to be a force that's going to go against them.
01:32:28.000And they need to know it's not just going to be the United States.
01:32:32.000That is why we need to build our partnerships with India, with South Korea, with Japan, with the Philippines, with Australia.
01:32:38.000We need to start pulling that alliance together.
01:32:40.000And the first way we do that is we need to make sure that on day one we look at the fact, if China pulled the rug out from under us tomorrow, would we be ready?
01:32:50.000Think about what happened during COVID.
01:32:59.000Everybody went and, I mean, everything that happened.
01:33:01.000If you go to the drugstore, all those medicines are made in China.
01:33:05.000We have to make sure that we are not relying on China for anything related to our national security, which means let's start focusing on doing deals with our friends now.
01:36:57.000We need to start having diverse insurance options in a competitive marketplace that cover actual health, preventative medicine, diet, exercise, lifestyle, and otherwise.
01:40:59.000I don't know how you could be a Republican and watch this crap for four years.
01:41:02.000You know, somewhere out there there's like a 60 year old guy who's like loves Sean Hannity or whatever and he sees the the montage of Biden falling for the six millionth time and he's laughing his ass off.
01:41:17.000I remember one time a boomer called me on the phone.
01:43:02.000That's all prescription drugs and this and that, like, if that doesn't do- and this fucking guy, if that doesn't tell you that we need fresh blood, and they go after the Groipers, the Groipers are injecting fun and being cool into the conservative side or the right-wing side, because otherwise they got Kevin Sorbo, Kevin Sorbo doing this.
01:43:57.000Obviously they're all piling on Nikki Haley.
01:43:59.000I mean, the state of the race is this.
01:44:02.000And Nikki Haley was right about this earlier.
01:44:04.000Ron DeSantis said that Haley is like the Wall Street candidate, and that is partially true.
01:44:10.000But it's also true that Ron DeSantis was the original Wall Street candidate.
01:44:14.000And you could go back, this was happening in 2022.
01:44:18.000That basically all of the New York high-powered donors that backed Trump in 2020 and 2016 reluctantly were throwing their support behind DeSantis.
01:44:28.000One of the biggest ones was Ken Griffin who runs Citadel.
01:44:47.000He announced, and he's only become less popular since, so now they've shifted support for Haley.
01:44:53.000So, it was sort of funny because that's true.
01:44:55.000DeSantis says, oh, you're the Wall Street candidate, and she has become that, but only because the Wall Street donors abandoned him, and they're now with her.
01:45:03.000But what that reflects is that they're shifting their allegiance because they believe that she will be the one that is going to go the distance with Trump.
01:45:11.000That it will evolve into a two-person race, one non-Trump person against Trump,
01:45:17.000And they're going with her South Carolina strategy.
01:45:20.000Former President, would you draw inspiration from for your own presidency and why?
01:46:11.000Well, I have to say, too, I think George Washington, when you look at the responsibilities he had of how do you go and take on this great American experiment and make sure that the people are protected, and they always knew that government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people.
01:46:26.000It was never meant to be all things to all people.
01:46:31.000And you look at the challenges and you look at the division that happened in our country and the ability to lead in spite of the loud noises and say what will bring out the best in people to get us to go forward is always something that's important and I think we need that now more than ever.
01:47:08.000Constitution as the centerpiece of our national life.
01:47:12.000And that requires a president who understands the original understanding of the Constitution, who has a good sense of the Bill of Rights, and who knows how we've gone off track with this massive fourth branch of government, this administrative state which is imposing its will.
01:48:36.000I hate how they always, women moderators always do that cutesy shit.
01:48:38.000I want you all to kind of picture in your minds election day.
01:48:42.000You'll all be heading to the polls to vote.
01:48:44.000And that's something that Donald Trump will not be able to do.
01:48:47.000Because he will be convicted of felonies before then, and his right to vote will be taken away.
01:48:53.000You know, look, here's the bottom line.
01:48:57.000You can boo about it all you like and continue to deny reality.
01:49:01.000But if we deny reality as a party, we're going to have four more years of Joe Biden.
01:49:05.000When my colleagues here raised their hands and said they would support him even if he was a convicted felon, the bigger problem with it is they were confirming the lies he's told to the American people.
01:49:16.000If you're too timid to take on Trump, believe me, others will see that timidity.
01:49:21.000Xi, Putin in the Ayatollah, the border crossers on the southern border, and the criminals in our streets.
01:49:28.000They'll sense that timidity and they'll take advantage of that failure of leadership.
01:49:32.000We need to get back to an old American idea that every person is responsible for their own conduct, even a president.
01:49:41.000I'll be the kind of president who has the humility that knows that you work for the people.
01:49:56.000I'll use this to just address a topic we didn't talk about tonight but I think is one of the most important topics that needs to be discussed.
01:50:02.000That is this climate change agenda that is shackling this country like a set of handcuffs.
01:50:06.000I said it the first debate and I stand by it.
01:50:09.000The climate change agenda is a hoax because it has nothing to do with the climate.
01:52:18.000We are in jeopardy of being the first generation of Americans to leave to our kids and grandkids in America less prosperous and less free than the one we inherited.
01:52:27.000I refuse to sit idly by and let that happen.
01:52:31.000But we've got to have people that are going to be willing to fight the people that are doing this to us.
01:52:35.000You can't be these establishment Republicans that just cave at the first sign of opposition.
01:56:00.000If it was, honestly, if it was Vivek and Nikki Haley, excuse me, and Rod DeSantis, it would be a bit more watchable, because at least DeSantis and Haley, I mean, they are competing for this lane of who is going to challenge Trump.
01:56:14.000In the primary and I've said this for a long time it started out as a one-man race where it's Trump versus the field.
01:56:21.000Trump with 50% plus against everybody else and everybody else is really a second or a lower tier candidate and they're competing to be though basically it's gonna narrow to one person who will be seen as the alternative to Trump.
01:56:38.000I said, but in the early stage of the race, it's really a one-man race.
01:56:41.000It's Trump, and then it's everyone else running who isn't Trump, and it doesn't really matter.
01:56:47.000As we get closer to these actual primaries and caucuses, the race is clearly narrowing.
01:56:52.000We're now down to four, and I think probably all four will stay in the race.
01:56:58.000But the dynamic is that Chris Christie will not get it.
01:57:01.000He is in the race purely to spoil it for Trump and to cause problems and
01:57:07.000And to pressure the other candidates to be against Trump.
01:57:11.000Haley and DeSantis are competing to see who will be the sort of establishment favorite.
01:57:49.000To Trump and Cruz, but it was way too late.
01:57:52.000It's sort of a similar dynamic now, although it's still early, where all four of these people being in the race, they're splitting the non-Trump vote.
01:58:02.000And as long as four people in addition to Trump are in the race, no one will compete with Trump.
01:58:09.000If the race narrows to Christie and Vivek and either DeSantis or Haley, maybe one of them will be competitive.
01:58:19.000I mean, I think that's what the establishment believes.
01:58:24.000DeSantis and Haley are really competing in that lane for who is going to be the establishment's pick against Trump, just like Cruz and Rubio.
01:58:32.000And, like I said, initially Wall Street and the donors were behind DeSantis.
01:58:37.000They saw that he had a lot of support after the midterms.
01:58:59.000He's not good enough to be the president.
01:59:01.000And so there was this idea of DeSantis that people liked.
01:59:05.000There was this concept, which is, what if there was a very effective politician who had the same policies as Trump, but without the sort of self-sabotaging things?
01:59:17.000That's not, I don't characterize it that way, but that's how a lot of people think about the tweeting and the controversy and him being a very cultural conservative.
01:59:29.000And so there was this concept that people liked.
01:59:32.000What if there was, what if there was some other candidate
01:59:37.000Who was... all the things we like about Trump, but all the things that we don't love, all the things that maybe we see as not practical or not pragmatic.
01:59:46.000And what if that guy was Ron DeSantis?
01:59:47.000And after the midterms, Ron DeSantis won Florida by 20 points, and it kind of vindicated this concept that if DeSantis could win a swing state, a purple state, with such a wide margin, which is really historic and even flip a city like Miami, so the argument went.
02:00:04.000And insofar as that existed in a superposition and it was not tested, it was not in reality, people were interested in that and I think people were willing to sort of experiment with that and then two things happened.
02:00:29.000One, Trump got indicted, which happened in the spring.
02:00:33.000Trump got indicted before DeSantis announced, and that caused everyone to circle the wagons around Trump and rally around him because he's the man of the moment for obvious reasons.
02:01:01.000He's eating pudding with his fingers, he has this weird laugh, he makes this weird smile, he doesn't know how to interact with people, he's wearing lifts in his shoes.
02:01:09.000And so people don't they realize he's not Trump he doesn't have that X factor and you know people talk about this a lot and you know it's not a tangible quality so some people maybe they don't ascribe a lot of weight to that.
02:01:25.000But that attribute, that mysterious X factor that makes somebody the leader of the number one country in the world, he doesn't have that.
02:01:33.000Obama had that, Bush had that, Clinton, for better or for worse, they all had that.
02:01:38.000Gerald Ford didn't have it, Jimmy Carter didn't have it, but like Reagan, George W. Bush, more so than his father,
02:02:21.000And he reluctantly bankrolled Trump because he wanted access and he is a Republican.
02:02:27.000But Trump is not his preference and he said that in 2022.
02:02:30.000He said that I'm basically shifting my support to DeSantis because I want a guy who's going to cut my taxes, not a guy who's going to throw illegals out, not a guy who's going to engage in the scrum of politics.
02:02:42.000Which is, by the way, what you have to do because we're in a fucking war.
02:03:26.000I thought Trump's announcement in November last year was terrible.
02:03:30.000And, you know, in January he was really struggling.
02:03:32.000DeSantis was seen as a viable candidate.
02:03:36.000But then Trump got indicted and then everything changed.
02:03:39.000Now, then something happened within the smaller race here among the people running for second place here.
02:03:47.000Which is that as DeSantis has sort of been exploding and not really getting any popularity, if anything he's been getting less popular.
02:03:57.000His favorables are going down, he's becoming less competitive with Trump, and so now people are throwing their support behind Haley.
02:04:03.000They saw her at the first debate, they see her as a woman, they see her as pretty, likable, and they also see one of Trump's big problems as he struggles with women, specifically the so-called suburban moms.
02:04:16.000So they say that Nikki Haley, if DeSantis couldn't solve Trump's baggage problem, they say, well, a woman can.
02:04:24.000If we could put Nikki Haley in, well, she's a woman.
02:05:01.000After Nikki Haley left office, they set her up with a very well-paying job and she became very rich on the board of one of the biggest companies in the world.
02:05:11.000She doesn't have expertise on airplanes.
02:05:37.000So, Ron DeSantis is from Florida, and Florida doesn't have their primary, as far as I know, I think until March.
02:05:45.000South Carolina is one of the first four, which are the most important.
02:05:49.000Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina are the first four primaries and caucuses.
02:05:54.000And so, they realize that if Ron DeSantis isn't performing going into Iowa, Ron DeSantis toured all 99 counties of Iowa, he put all his ground game there, hoping that a strong 2nd or 3rd place finish would propel him into the succeeding races, they know that he's not going to make a splash.
02:06:13.000And if he doesn't make a splash in Iowa, he's going to get killed in New Hampshire, and then he's done.
02:06:18.000He won't make it to the Florida primary in March.
02:06:22.000So all of this combined, they say that...
02:06:26.000With Haley, her home state is one of the first four.
02:06:32.000If she can hang on, if she can have an okay finish in Iowa, if she can finish okay in New Hampshire, and if she can squeak by to South Carolina and win South Carolina, that's really when her campaign begins.
02:06:45.000So the strategy goes that DeSantis will drop out, maybe even Christie may drop out because, again, he only performs in New Hampshire.
02:06:53.000So, if she wins South Carolina, then it's her, and Vivek, and Trump.
02:06:58.000And it's from there that she springboards into basically a runoff between her and Trump, and she's the establishment pick, and she's the alternative to Trump, and she's almost the perfect foil.
02:07:10.000Because she's a child of immigrants, and she's a woman, and she's a neocon, and, you know, she's charming, she's not a boorish, not civil, rude guy like Trump.
02:07:28.000They all hate Vivek because he's like another Trump.
02:07:31.000He's throwing a wrench, even into the JV debate here, with the anti-war stuff and really shitting on them in ways they don't want to be shit on.
02:07:41.000And it was a really important moment when Vivek opened up the can of kick-ass on Nikki Haley and Chris Christie.
02:07:51.000They all defended each other, like rats.
02:07:57.000But the point is, they all stuck together on that one.
02:08:01.000Even though DeSantis came right out of the gate swinging at Haley, and even though Chris Christie has been swinging on DeSantis, they all stuck together.
02:08:24.000And then they went right back to attacking her after the commercial break.
02:08:28.000And that's the definition of the controlled conversation, the controlled opposition.
02:08:34.000Which is that we can have a free debate within these parameters.
02:08:38.000If you step outside that, well, now you're an enemy of the public.
02:08:43.000You can have DeSantis and Haley debate about who is more pro-Israel and who is more anti-China and who is more in favor of green or fossil fuels or whatever.
02:09:59.000All these attacks they use against Trump because Trump was an outsider.
02:10:03.000In 2016, Trump wasn't coming into the debate and saying, I'm the most conservative one.
02:10:08.000I'm going to repeal Obamacare the hardest.
02:10:10.000He came in and said, I'm going to build a fucking wall, and I'm going to do a trade war with China, and I'm going to bring manufacturing back, and I'm going to end the wars because Iraq was a mistake.
02:10:20.000Totally radical and really attacking the nucleus of the system.
02:12:08.000I always remember that when Trump was running, and even when he was the president, a lot of his supporters would say, I wish that Trump was more articulate.
02:12:16.000I wish that he could talk like Pat Buchanan talked.
02:12:18.000I wish he could talk like Sam Francis, or Tucker Carlson even, for that matter.
02:12:24.000Because Trump has a very plain and straightforward and simple way of talking.
02:12:31.000And a lot of, like, intellectuals on our side didn't like that.
02:12:35.000They said, we need someone who can articulate a more intellectual foundation for his policies.
02:12:42.000And at the time, I said, no, no, we don't actually need that.
02:13:01.000Now, it was a different circumstance, but it goes to show that it's not a race about profundity.
02:13:06.000It's not a race about who is the most eloquent speaker.
02:13:11.000Fundamentally, it's a race about who's the strongest politician, which is an altogether different skill set than a good talker, necessarily, or a good podcaster, or something like that, a good newscaster.
02:13:22.000So Trump was a great communicator and he was a very strategic, very rhetorically strategic, in a way that I think Vivek isn't.
02:13:31.000And Trump got that way because he's a great negotiator.
02:13:35.000And he's quick and he's got he's got an intelligence that he's not like a scholar of politics, but he's got a great killer instinct and he's got a knack for effective communication.
02:13:47.000I think the fact does he doesn't have that same sort of innate talent for body language and for and for rhetoric that Trump has.
02:13:57.000Because if you go back in 2016, I could go on and on and on and on.
02:14:18.000It was far more strategic and tactical.
02:14:22.000And like I said, it's almost like it was innate.
02:14:24.000He almost just had an instinct and a talent for that.
02:14:27.000I think Vivek, that is not a natural talent.
02:14:31.000The body language, the rhetoric, it's just not as good.
02:14:34.000So that's why Vivek is not, you know, he's interesting.
02:14:38.000I think for a lot of people he's sort of a curiosity, sort of a novelty, and I think people like what he says, clearly, because he had no name recognition, he's an outsider,
02:14:50.000And yet he's made it to the final four.
02:14:52.000So, you know, clearly he's succeeded, he's had some staying power, but he's not been able to get any kind of massive support.
02:15:00.000No one would prefer him over Trump, at least not a lot of people.
02:15:04.000And I would attribute that to some of these factors.
02:15:07.000There's legacy factors as well, but that's a big part of it too.
02:15:11.000So, anyway, that's my take on the debate.
02:15:13.000And I just love what Vivek has been saying because he keeps
02:15:18.000The debate is so inside the reservation.
02:15:21.000All the questions are about, you know, what would you do about inflation?
02:17:20.000Today, I defeated InfoWars, I defeated Bannon's War Room, I defeated Newsmax, and I was number four or five throughout the entire night, and now I'm number one!
02:17:33.000I found the crowd of Rumble lying in the gutter after the debate ended, and I picked it up with the tip of my selfie stick.
02:17:41.000I found the crown of Rumble in the gutter after the debate ended, after the reason everybody's on the site ended, and I picked it up with the tip of my selfie stick.
02:17:51.000I picked it up with my sword, and now I'm number one on Rumble.
02:21:28.000He's talking about the Great Replacement.
02:21:30.000He's talking about the neocons and the warfare state, saying that, you know, this is an unwinnable war.
02:21:38.000They want to talk about everything else.
02:21:40.000And the biggest problem, there's a word for this, it's called backsliding.
02:21:44.000Trump came in in 2016, and he changed the conversation.
02:21:48.000They wanted to have a conversation about who was going to go to war with Russia the most, and who was going to let in the most immigrants, and who was going to bend over backwards the most to pander to minorities.
02:22:00.000And Trump came in and said, let's pause that conversation, and let's talk about immigration, trade,
02:22:06.000And neocons and their wars and the media and other things too, but those are the big three.
02:22:14.000And that was a big part of it is that Trump, he controlled the narrative because he determined what issues were discussed.
02:22:24.000And that's how he was able to create a realignment, really.
02:22:27.000And he was able to flip states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.
02:22:31.000Because he didn't like how the table was set, he turned the table over.
02:22:36.000He didn't like the table was set, it was gonna be Bush vs. Clinton again, it was gonna be Hillary Clinton vs. some other neocon if it wasn't Bush.
02:22:44.000So Trump changed how the table was set and he said let's have the other conversation about, and these happen to be the issues that matter, immigration trade and the wars.
02:22:55.000The VEC comes in and they want to talk about inflation and China and Hamas and the VEC comes in and I think with these pivots and sort of this this persistent ability to reframe the debate
02:23:09.000He's injecting a narrative about white replacement.
02:23:12.000He's injecting a narrative about January 6th.
02:23:40.000This idea of invade the world, invite the world, mass migration, liberal light, you know, we're progressive light, we're gonna pander and do, you know, everything the left does, but little less.
02:23:52.000You know, we're gonna have trans surgeries, but wait until fourth grade.
02:23:56.000We're gonna have gay marriage, but only in a certain way.
02:23:59.000We're gonna have abortion, but whatever.
02:24:02.000And the low tax, go to war with everybody.
02:24:07.000And what Trump tapped into is a propositionally positive vision for America.
02:24:13.000An alternative, positive vision for America.
02:24:16.000What was the Republican message outside of Trump in 2016?
02:24:19.000It was like, let's make this a new American century, let's defend liberty, whatever, a bunch of generic crap.
02:24:28.000Trump came in and said, let's take the country and make it great again.
02:24:30.000Let's land on the moon, let's build a wall, let's defeat China, let's defeat our enemies, etc.
02:24:38.000And similarly, Vivette comes in and says, what's the grand central vision for America's right wing, for America's opposition after the Trump revolution?
02:25:16.000That are, that have sort of become a fourth branch of government in the sense that they take the laws that Congress passes and because they're able to enforce them, they're able to effectively dictate what the laws are.
02:25:28.000They have such a wide latitude and discretion in interpreting and enforcing the laws, picking the ones they want to enforce and with discretion how they're going to enforce them or implement them.
02:25:50.000They control our domestic policy They run our economy.
02:25:53.000And anyway, so things like this where Vivek is he's really articulating an alternative new
02:26:00.000Propositionally positive vision for America's political opposition, which is the right, by saying, like, I'm not going to come in and say, let's fight for low taxes and, you know, let's just do more interdiction for fentanyl.
02:26:13.000He's saying, let's talk about recreating meaning for Americans.
02:26:16.000Let's recreate meaning and national identity and let's talk about mass migration as replacement migration and let's disassemble the deep state and on and on and on and on.
02:26:46.000They want to set up Nikki Haley to defeat Trump and be the president and bury Trumpism and go along their merry way being the party of the donors, being the party of the Israel lobby, Sheldon Adelson, oil and gas, and Wall Street.
02:29:58.000The United States had frozen $6 billion of Iran's assets in South Korea
02:30:03.000They had South Korea release the funds as part of a prisoner swap, the money was transferred to Qatar, and then the attack happened on Israel.
02:30:15.000And we didn't give them $6 billion, we unfroze $6 billion that was frozen under the Trump administration under a more advanced sanctions regime.
02:30:24.000But they never even saw the money, and the money was frozen in Qatar.
02:30:29.000After the attack, the money did not go to Iran.
02:30:32.000But that didn't stop all the neocons from saying, oh, Joe Biden gave Iran six billion dollars.
02:30:38.000And not only did he not give them, and people could say, well, what's the difference?
02:30:43.000Even if you say it's a distinction without a difference that he merely unfroze Iran's money that wasn't even held in America, they never even got the money.
02:30:53.000And as a consequence, they couldn't have used the money for the attack.
02:30:57.000So they wanted to say that there was this connection.
02:30:59.000Joe Biden gave them money, and then they used the money to fund Hamas, and then Hamas attacked Israel.
02:31:31.000They've been saying, oh, Putin wants to get the band back together, Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union, he wants to invade Poland and the Baltics.
02:31:39.000And you know what they're basing that on?
02:31:41.000They're basing that on the fact that Vladimir Putin has said, I think he said this 20 years ago,
02:31:48.000That when he was working as a KGB operative in East Germany during the fall of the Soviet Union, he said that was a geopolitical catastrophe.
02:33:08.000And if you know anything about international affairs, it abhors a vacuum.
02:33:13.000And when you get the world's number two superpower disappear overnight and there's a crisis of legitimacy and there's a political crisis and tanks firing at the Capitol, that's a very dangerous situation.
02:33:26.000As evidenced by other similar situations like in Libya or Iraq or other places.
02:33:53.000You're living in candy land if you think that Ukraine was ever winning against Russia.
02:33:57.000They might have not been losing at certain times.
02:34:00.000There were times when Ukraine wasn't getting fucking destroyed easily.
02:34:05.000That's all you could ever say since the war broke out in February 22, is that there were moments when they weren't getting absolutely annihilated.
02:34:13.000But Russia has never been losing this war, ever.
02:34:17.000And this counteroffensive, you know, they said there'd be a big spring counteroffensive.
02:34:21.000We've been arming and aiding Ukraine for a year, and they're supposed to unleash this counteroffensive.
02:34:27.000It got delayed by months, and then it never materialized.
02:34:30.000The spring counteroffensive became a summer counteroffensive, and then they said, well, it's just super slow.
02:34:37.000And they've been forced to admit in the past two months that it failed.
02:34:52.000But Nikki Haley says, well, you know, Ukraine was winning the war against Russia, so Russia called up Iran and said, hello, Iran, can you help me out here?
02:35:01.000So Iran called Hamas, and Iran said, Hamas, can you help us out?
02:35:05.000So Hamas attacked Israel, she says, on Putin's birthday.
02:37:25.000You think that Vladimir Putin gave himself a birthday gift to relieve pressure in a war that he's not even losing by getting Hamas to attack?
02:37:33.000Now don't get me wrong, Russia benefited from this.
02:37:47.000That Hamas did this to derail normalization talks between Saudi Arabia and Israel, which were nearing completion and which would have completely shut out and frozen Palestine out of the equation.
02:38:00.000And they coincided their attack, which was for the purpose of derailing those talks, with the 50-year anniversary of the other surprise attack against Israel that was very successful initially, or that they did it for Putin's birthday.
02:38:15.000So, like, Nikki Haley's either ignorant or a liar or both.
02:38:21.000Anyway, so... I just had to... I forgot about that, because Vivek... I want to watch a clip where Vivek kicks her ass, but I rewound it to that part.
02:38:34.000And it's like, neocons are just the most shameless liars in politics, where they will literally go out there and say, Putin was losing the war with Ukraine, she called up his friend Iran, and Iran called up Hamas, and Hamas attacked Israel on Putin's birthday.
02:39:28.000I want to say one thing about the tie to Ukraine, if I may.
02:39:31.000So, foreign policy experience is not the same as foreign policy wisdom.
02:39:37.000I want everybody at home to note that I was the first person to say we need a reasonable peace deal in Ukraine.
02:39:42.000Now a lot of the neocons are quietly coming along to that position, with the exceptions of Nikki Haley and Joe Biden, who still support this, what I believe is, pointless war in Ukraine.
02:39:52.000And I think those with foreign policy experience, one thing that Joe Biden and Nikki Haley have in common is that neither of them could even state for you three provinces in eastern Ukraine that they want to send our troops to actually fight for.
02:42:56.000She gets in, throwing her support behind Trump.
02:42:59.000Trump gives her a spot in the administration.
02:43:02.000This is something on her resume so she can run for president.
02:43:05.000When she leaves the United Nations, she goes to work on the board of Boeing, the company that she helped when she was governor years prior.
02:43:14.000She gets paid millions of dollars to work on their board.
02:43:28.000It's a quid pro quo, which means a deal between a major company and a politician.
02:43:35.000With a conflict of interest at the center, which is governance.
02:43:38.000Favorable governance in exchange for money.
02:43:40.000The private sector has money, the public sector has power.
02:43:43.000The private sector gives the money, the public sector exchanges that for favorable governance, favorable legislation, enforcement, whatever.
02:43:53.000The obvious explanation is that that is what's going on.
02:43:55.000It's a quid pro quo where a military defense contractor, one of the biggest companies in the country, with massive cash and lobbying, gives money to Nikki Haley to basically buy her, and that's why she supports war.
02:44:11.000She supports war in Ukraine, at least ostensibly, because when we go to war with Ukraine and we send them all this equipment, who are we buying it from?
02:44:19.000We're buying it from Lockheed, we're buying it from Raytheon, and we're buying it from Boeing.
02:45:00.000Here's money, do the thing that I want.
02:45:02.000Okay, I'll take your money, I'll take his money, and I'll do all these favors.
02:45:06.000And that's where government becomes not an institution that represents and serves the nation or the people, it just becomes a place where people buy favors.
02:45:15.000It dispenses favors to various interested parties and classes.
02:45:22.000The formal story though, the official story, goes something like this.
02:45:28.000Nikki Haley was brought on as the UN ambassador because of the foreign policy experience she brings to the table, and then she was hired by Boeing because of the priceless foreign policy experience that she gained when she was the ambassador of the United Nations,
02:45:46.000She had a moment where she said a thing.
02:45:48.000She condemned Assad and she captured the hearts of the world when she said this.
02:45:54.000And her priceless foreign policy experience and historical moments like that make her a qualified candidate to be on the board of one of America's largest defense contractors.
02:46:17.000Do you understand why this is such an earth-shattering?
02:46:20.000For him to call that out calls out the whole system.
02:46:24.000He, you know, not to sound sort of like cliche or trite, but it's like he really is, Trump and him, maybe you can see the parallels, are unique because they're going to war against the system.
02:46:38.000When Trump would go up there and say, oh, it's donors in the audience, that's their special interest, I don't need their money, I'm a billionaire, I can fund my own campaign, I used to pay people like them and they did whatever I wanted, I used the system, you know, it was the same rhetoric.
02:46:54.000Trump used to talk all the time about lobbyists, donors, special interests, globalists.
02:47:00.000And the deep state is a big part of that, of course, too.
02:47:04.000So for him to do this, to shot across the bow when he said that was awesome.
02:47:08.000And he basically said, and anyway, to arrive at my point, when he says to Nikki Haley, you support this war in Ukraine, you don't even know what's going on there.
02:48:27.000And they also revised the Intermediate-Range Ballistic Missile Treaty.
02:48:31.000So Trump was very active in that theater, and if you're the UN ambassador, which is a high-ranking part of the diplomatic mission of the United States, you should know that shit.
02:48:41.000And theoretically, if you had foreign policy credentials, you'd know that if you were hired at Boeing.
02:48:46.000But since you don't, obviously it was about something else.
02:49:42.000She's smirking because she doesn't know, she's embarrassed, and she should be, because she's going up there pretending to be a leader, and really she's a whore.
02:51:11.000She wants to go and fight Russia, and fight Iran, and fight China, and she wants to basically oversee the slow death of our nation while she has her name in history and she gets rich off of it.
02:51:47.000We are the assholes every day when illegals come into the country.
02:51:51.000And they get their health care from the emergency room, and they send their kids to school, and they get put up in hotels, and they get free everything in their phones, and they get TPS status.
02:52:25.000The lies to our face, how our civil liberties have been curtailed, our quality of life, our culture has been under attack and has been deteriorating for years,
02:52:39.000That's why people like Trump and Vivek.
02:52:41.000Because it's like, now it's your turn, Jagoff.
02:52:45.000You know, these people, they really think they're better than us.
02:53:05.000Yeah, we don't care that that's not how politicians talk, that's not how we talk.
02:53:09.000That's not how we talk, that's not how anyone would talk when our country is burning, when our country is dying, and you're killing it.
02:53:19.000So that's the best part, is that they just get, that Vivek just humiliates her, and says, look at you, you dumb fucking idiot, look, you don't even know what you're talking about, look at your stupid blank expression, you dumb idiot, you don't even know what you're talking about.
02:53:33.000Cuts her head off and holds her up for ridicule.
02:59:29.000She says Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea.
02:59:33.000Now, you know, that is one way to look at it, actually.
02:59:39.000Because those were the original disputed territories Actually, so I don't she I imagine she looked through her notes and she found that I mean Crimea is not currently one of them.
02:59:50.000Crimea was annexed in 2014 and Luhansk and Donetsk seceded and declared their independence in 2014 shortly after and
03:00:00.000Let me just... Crimea is the wrong answer!
03:00:30.000So, I guess she did answer it in the end, but it doesn't matter.
03:00:33.000We got the... Hey, what matters is we got the moment.
03:03:53.000She gives me a chocolate advent calendar, I think, on, like, Thanksgiving, and, like, three days later, four days later, make sure you're eating your advent calendar.
03:06:42.000We have a Monroe Doctrine that says that we control the Western Hemisphere and for a long time we were totally dominant and uncontested in South and Central America.
03:09:32.000Security interest of the United States.
03:09:34.000It was based on lobbying from Israel And it was also based on this ideological vision that we would turn Iraq into a democracy and that this is an ideological vision the idea that democracies don't attack democracies and so if we could make Iraq a democracy and Democracy would spread then we could pacify the Middle East.
03:09:53.000This is part of a liberal ideological vision of the world They thought the same thing about China
03:09:59.000They thought that if we enriched China through trade, which we oversaw that.
03:10:04.000America's leaders were complicit in China's rise for 30 years.
03:10:08.000Through their abuses at the WTO and the currency manipulation, because they thought that if China became rich, that it would liberalize and democratize.
03:10:17.000They thought that every country, when it achieves a certain standard of living, liberalizes and democratizes.
03:10:24.000And if we can liberalize and democratize China and Russia and the Middle East, then we can make the world safer democracy.
03:10:30.000That's a liberal worldview, and it's incorrect.
03:10:36.000They're not going to democratize because that's not their culture.
03:10:39.000Iraq will not liberalize or democratize for the same reason.
03:10:43.000And Russia will not for the exact same reason.
03:10:46.000What's more, Russia and China will naturally come into conflict with the United States, although more so China, because they are competing hegemons.
03:10:55.000So forget about whether you're a democracy or not, they're both global hegemons.
03:11:00.000Democracies have competed in the past.
03:11:02.000France and the United Kingdom, the United Kingdom and the United States.
03:11:07.000Democracies have competed in the history of the world.
03:11:10.000Democracy in republican form of government isn't very old, but there have been competing liberal democratic hegemons, and they have fought, and they have competed, and that's happened.
03:11:21.000What is driving the conflict between China and America is not competing ideology, it is competition.
03:11:27.000And it's a competition for power and dominance in the world.
03:11:59.000I think that what we should do, though, is we should use our hard and soft power to advance American interests everywhere, all the time, wherever possible.
03:12:15.000That's different than saying, I believe that democracies don't fight democracies, so we should plant the seed of democracy in Iraq, and we should enrich our number one adversary in the hopes they become democracy and not attack us.
03:12:28.000You know, the Israel lobby has a lot to do with it also.
03:12:33.000What's more, the military is not what has bankrupted America.
03:13:26.000That's good for us, and it's relatively not that expensive.
03:13:30.000What is expensive is the fact that we have an ever-increasing number of liabilities, because we have more people receiving benefits than paying into it.
03:13:43.000Or at least that's where we're headed.
03:13:45.000When Social Security was created, there were 140 payees for every beneficiary.
03:13:51.000Every one person receiving Social Security, there were 140 people paying into Social Security.
03:13:56.000It was also supposed to work like a trust.
03:13:58.000So it wasn't like Congress is looting Social Security to pay for the war or to pay for whatever else.
03:14:04.000It was supposed to be that your money goes in and then that money comes back out later, accruing interest.
03:18:21.000America wants to secure its shipping lanes.
03:18:23.000America needs natural resources from other countries.
03:18:27.000You know, that's the other thing is so many of the technologies of the future are powered by these critical minerals that the United States doesn't have.
03:18:37.000Like, the global price of energy matters to America.
03:18:46.000Rare earths, light heavy rare earths, and things like lithium, and all kinds, any mineral you can think of, that have applications in MRIs, or radar, or optics, or airplanes, and all these kinds of things.
03:19:05.000In nuclear power plants, you can't all get them in the United States.
03:19:10.000And we are part of a globalized, interconnected economy.
03:19:15.000So, you know, America does have interest in the world.
03:19:20.000We also have a security interest as well.
03:19:22.000The more powerful America is, the more secure we are.
03:19:26.000And the more powerful we are, the more secure our economic interests are.
03:19:31.000And what's more, we also should be evangelists.
03:19:33.000I believe that America should be an evangelist to the world.
03:20:12.000And when we're bringing, you know, gay marriage and transgenderism and BLM to other countries, that's why I'm in favor of China and Russia now.
03:20:21.000I will be in favor of American domination of the world when we're spreading Christianity, when we're spreading white excellence.
03:21:56.000Let's let the Asians inherit the world.
03:21:58.000Let's let Africa, because Africa will, I hope you understand that, at the same time that America is declining, Africa's population is exploding to 10 billion.
03:22:08.000So, I guess the world will belong to Africa then, and we can let Africa colonize Europe, we can let Africa colonize South America and Asia, and let's all just retreat to Fortress America, and let's all just, like, give each other Medicare for All and euthanasia, and we'll let the black people control the world.
03:22:50.000And the idea that, like I said, that America's going to retreat and become a nation among nations, and we'll be satisfied as a former empire and we'll just have a big gay fucking welfare state, and we'll just say, yeah, we had an empire once.
03:24:17.000You don't get born and say, hey, we live in another nation among nations and, you know, we just kind of don't bother anybody.
03:24:24.000We're just here to kind of, like, hang out a little bit and, you know, and all our social safety net's taken care of by the government and, you know, if you have a problem, call the police.
03:24:36.000And we're all just gonna wait for the heat death of the universe.
03:24:47.000A constantly expanding frontier, constantly on the seas, on foreign continents, on foreign planets, in the stars, in the field of science, in the field of art, in the field of philosophy, always expanding, always working, always reaching.
03:25:07.000That's why I say it's contrary to our spirit as a people, this idea that, you know,
03:25:13.000Well, we're just another nation among nations.
03:25:15.000We were exceptional, we were an empire, and we used to run the world, but now we just kind of like, now we just go to our socialized bachelor's degree, and if we get sick we go to our socialized medicine, and if we have a problem we call the police, and I just do human resources over here, and we have our little rituals, and we pretend like it was in the old days.
03:28:04.000Yeah, it is kind of a coincidence, like, because my notes on Vivek, my notes in the second debate, I said he needs to stop smiling and stop looking at his opponent when he's fighting them.
03:28:15.000He needs to, like, be a little more confrontational, and then he did all that.
03:28:19.000And then yeah, I've been calling out Destiny for not knowing anything about a map and then we hear this all of a sudden.
03:28:24.000It is a little bit of a coincidence. 100%.
03:29:18.000I think he's reached a sort of, uh, I think he's sort of reached like a truce with the ADL where they, they kind of have this uneasy truce and sort of like a, a tacit agreement, uh, which I talked about last week.
03:29:34.000Not, not because he thinks, oh, oh, the government will just bail him out.
03:29:37.000You know, some of the ideas on here are really pushing it.
03:31:06.000But if you go down here, it says what categories I'm in.
03:31:17.0001998 births, 21st century Roman Catholics, alt-right activists, American people of Mexican descent, American Holocaust deniers, American political commentators, people from LaGrange Park, anti-Semitism, American YouTubers, protests in or near the January 6th Capitol attack, and incels.
03:31:41.000And if you click incels, there's only five.
03:31:45.000Nick Fuentes, Mauricio Garcia, who killed a bunch of people in Texas, Alec Manassian, who killed a bunch of people in Toronto, Jack Peterson, who I don't know who that is, and Elliot Roger.
03:38:32.000Richard Percival sent $5, when America becomes an empire, would you want it to start setting up colonies and annexing territory directly, or are military alliances and puppet regimes good enough?
03:39:51.000It's going to take the most brilliant and talented America First people to rise up and become politically conscious and then form a revolutionary class.
03:40:00.000I mean, I'm a big believer in it's going to come from the top, not from the bottom of society.
03:40:05.000And that's nothing against the bottom of society, but it's going to be the high agency planners and schemers, I think, that are going to deliver the victory.
03:42:39.000I feel like we can finally see some tangible results.
03:42:44.000It's been seven long years and it's been really fucking difficult, but finally we're starting to see the fruits of our, of our sacrifices, our labor, everything that's gone on.
03:43:48.000Vivek is holding back with his based rhetoric and being careful or he is playing the role of new based guy but has actually gonna end up buying a typical shell faggot.
03:47:13.000I haven't been paying attention to that, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
03:47:30.000Okay, all right, that's our last suit listen, it's 11 o'clock enough no more You know people the show goes on for four hours people at 11 o'clock are like hey, how about let's open up a whole new can of worms No, I'm going to bed.