00:00:18.000Lance Videos declaring war on me on behalf of TikTok, declaring war on me and the Groypers.
00:00:25.000So I thought it would be good to kind of address some of that and, you know, just talk about a little bit about who I am for people that don't know.
00:00:32.000You know, obviously, a lot of young and relatively apolitical people on TikTok.
00:00:37.000They're probably not up to speed with the kinds of activities that we've been doing.
00:00:41.000Well, me and the America First movement.
00:00:44.000So, I want to dive into that a little bit and just talk about my video today.
00:00:49.000So, my first video today, I said, or it says in the video, you know, I'm a real conservative.
00:00:57.000Obviously, he's playing famous by Kanye West.
00:01:00.000It plays a clip of Nick Videos, who's a pretty big creator on here.
00:01:03.000I think he's got, what, a quarter of a million followers, which is very impressive and a big deal.
00:01:08.000And he has been making TikToks recently where I'm just shaking my head and wondering, like, what's going on, man?
00:01:16.000This is a guy who is known as the conservative TikToker.
00:01:20.000He had a big controversy or incident a couple of weeks ago where what happened?
00:01:26.000A bunch of liberal people, I think, tried to get him expelled from college or something, tried to get his college to rescind his admissions or something like that.
00:02:04.000And so I check out his TikToks, and it's just like, Video after video after video of like cringe of like liberal nonsense, you know, just in the stuff that I've seen in the past week.
00:02:18.000He says he's in favor of amnesty for all or most illegal immigrants.
00:02:24.000He says he's in favor of gay marriage.
00:02:26.000He says he's in favor of even contraception, which I don't know, maybe a lot of young people aren't on board with that yet, but that's not exactly conservative.
00:02:34.000He says, what was it, that we should have mass legal immigration?
00:03:59.000Like, I was a big Trump supporter, and I can tell you that I didn't support Trump, you know, so that we could have amnesty for all legals and continued legal immigration and all this other stuff.
00:04:10.000So, you know, I don't like it when people put on the MAGA hat and they call themselves conservatives, but they're really not.
00:04:18.000It's not conservative to be in favor of mass legal immigration, it's not conservative to be in favor of amnesty.
00:04:25.000And even on the video that I made today, the video, my first video today, It's a clip of Nick's videos, and he says, I think it's a terrible idea to deport all illegal immigrants or something to that effect.
00:04:39.000And he duets my video because I, you know, there's like a record scratch and it says loading real conservative, right?
00:05:33.000They've been saying 11 to 13 million for like 20 years.
00:05:37.000And it's gone up in 20 years, obviously, because more have come over and more have overstayed their visas and so on.
00:05:44.000So, more realistically, the number is probably at like 20 million illegal immigrants.
00:05:49.000And when you look at the biggest ICE raids that are going on of deporting illegals, they might get like 500 in a really big ICE raid.
00:05:58.000Like 1,000 is like a huge number in terms of deporting people.
00:06:03.000We're not deporting lots of people, we're actually deporting less people than are coming in in any given day or any given month.
00:06:10.000You know, for example, last May, you had 120,000 or 150,000 illegal crossings.
00:06:16.000I forget the exact number, but illegal crossings.
00:06:19.000And numbers like that are so high that it would be impossible to deport all of them, given our current resources, deport even as much as are coming in in a given day or a given month.
00:06:43.000Never mind if that's the right thing to do, never mind if that's what Donald Trump campaigned on in 2016.
00:06:48.000You know, you wear the MAGA hat, but Donald Trump campaigned in 2016 on deporting every last illegal, not just the ones that have committed crimes in addition to illegal crossing, but all of them.
00:06:58.000Never mind all of that, it's not practical.
00:07:00.000But looking at the cost of deporting the illegal aliens is one side of even that conversation.
00:07:07.000That is only one side of the financial or fiscal conversation.
00:07:12.000Because we have to think not just in terms of what the cost would be to deport.
00:07:16.000Illegal aliens, but what is the cost to keep them here?
00:07:20.000That's obviously the most important question.
00:07:57.000It says, the findings of this analysis show that the average cost of a deportation is much smaller than the net fiscal drain created by the average illegal immigrant.
00:08:09.000ICE, which is Immigration and Customs Enforcement, reported the average deportation cost as $10,854 in 2016.
00:08:19.000In 2012, ICE removed 71% more aliens with a similar budget.
00:08:25.000Creating an average inflation adjusted cost of $5,915.
00:08:31.000So, in other words, depending on if you look at the numbers from 2016 or 2012, on average, it can cost anywhere between $5,900 to a little bit over $10,000 per illegal immigrant to deport them.
00:08:45.000So, between roughly $6,000 to $11,000 per illegal alien.
00:08:49.000And when you multiply that by $20 million, that adds up very quickly.
00:08:55.000But, Of course, we have to compare it to how much it costs to keep them here.
00:09:00.000How much does it cost to let them reside in the country?
00:09:03.000And how do they cost us money by residing in the country?
00:09:06.000Obviously, to deport them, it costs money because you have to pay ICE agents and you have to pay people that are doing intel and you got to pay for legal fees and you have to adjudicate it.
00:09:16.000So we know about the costs associated with deportation it's personnel, it's courts, et cetera, right?
00:09:40.000You know, if they have a health emergency and they don't have health care or health insurance, then they go to a hospital and the hospital takes care of them, right?
00:09:46.000Or Medicaid takes care of it, whatever.
00:09:48.000And people like to pretend, by the way, that illegal aliens don't get welfare, and that's a nice segue.
00:09:53.000They like to say, well, illegal aliens pay into Social Security sometimes, but they don't get anything out.
00:09:59.000Because we know that there is massive amounts of Social Security fraud and health care fraud and all kinds of fraud.
00:10:05.000But to summarize, illegal aliens cost money to the country because they are staying in the country illegally and they are consuming public services.
00:10:14.000And often, they are consuming more in public services than they're paying in.
00:10:19.000Now, a lot of them don't even pay in because they work cash jobs.
00:10:22.000So that means they're not paying payroll taxes.
00:10:24.000That means they're not paying income tax, right?
00:10:26.000But in the rare cases that they do pay tax, sales tax or otherwise, they're paying a lot less than they're taking out.
00:10:33.000It costs a lot more for public housing, public schooling, health care, et cetera, than whatever meager amount they're paying in.
00:10:39.000Typically, it's low income jobs, right?
00:10:42.000So the cost long term per illegal immigrant to keep them in the country is $65,292.
00:10:52.000And that is taxes paid minus services used.
00:10:56.000So that's after you account for the taxes they pay, after you account for all the public services they take out.
00:11:08.000In other words, you take how much they pay in taxes, you subtract how much they consume in public services, and the deficit, the difference, is $65,000.
00:11:19.000On average, each illegal immigrant is a $65,000 drain on the government.
00:11:27.000And that's not counting their descendants, because we know that illegal immigrants come here and they have kids, and their kids become citizens often if they come here.
00:11:36.000And they have kids, the kids are citizens.
00:11:39.000If they come here with kids, then the kids are illegal and they're DACA or whatever, right?
00:12:22.000The National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine.
00:12:26.000This is where I'm getting this data from, quoted by the Center for Immigration Studies.
00:12:31.000A recent NAS study estimated the lifetime fiscal impact of immigrants by education, averaging the cost estimates from that study and combining them with the education levels of illegal border crossers, shows a net fiscal drain of $74,000.
00:12:45.000The above figures are only for the original illegal immigrants and do not include any costs for their U.S. born descendants.
00:12:53.000If we use the NAS projections that include the descendants, the fiscal drain for border crossers grows to $94,000 each.
00:13:57.000$80,000 more to keep an illegal alien here than it does to deport them.
00:14:03.000And obviously, these numbers we're talking about border crossers and, you know, because you have a lot of other illegal immigration like visa overstays and other things.
00:14:11.000You know, there's a variety of kinds of illegal immigration or people that are here illegally.
00:14:15.000But this just gives you an idea that there are two variables here.
00:14:19.000It's not just, well, it costs a lot to deport versus it's free to keep them.
00:14:23.000It's not free to keep them here, it actually costs us a lot.
00:14:26.000And think about it this way to deport them is a one time cost.
00:14:30.000And this is a very straightforward and simple way to think about it.
00:14:33.000To deport somebody, that's a one time cost.
00:14:36.000You pick them up, you scoop them up, you get them out.
00:14:39.000And maybe it costs a lot of money to get them out, but once you pay that cost, it's done.
00:14:43.000You pick them up, you take them out, done.
00:14:46.000Build the wall, kick them out, you're done with it, right?
00:14:50.000It costs for every individual, and I'm talking, of course, you're going to have more illegal aliens trying to get in or coming in, but for an individual person, I take them, I put them out, and that's a one time $5,000 to $10,000 cost to deport.
00:15:01.000Whatever the cost is, but it's a one time cost.
00:15:04.000If the illegal alien stays here, how long is a lifetime?
00:15:08.000Assuming public resources every day, they're schooling and then they get out of school, obviously, but then they're health care, they're housing, SNAP, welfare, other assorted benefits.
00:15:29.000Let's say they have two or three kids.
00:15:30.000I think the average fertility rate for Hispanics is around 2.5.
00:15:33.000So let's say they have two kids for the sake of argument.
00:15:36.000So now, one illegal immigrant comes over and they have two kids.
00:15:38.000So you have one dependent for their whole life, we're going to be paying for them, and then we're going to be paying for those two kids for their whole lives.
00:15:58.000Seven people you're paying for from cradle to grave, paying for public services that they're going to be a drain on.
00:16:04.000And so when you're thinking about the big picture like that, long term, children, the demographic effects, you're going to be paying for these illegal immigrants forever, forever, indefinitely, because they'll be having kids and their kids have kids and their kids have kids and so on.
00:16:50.000And it's like, whoa, you know, that's a lot of money to deport all these people, but then begin to imagine the fiscal burden of keeping them here.
00:16:56.000And then you understand why it's a no brainer.
00:18:45.000The Republicans say the Democrats are in favor of open borders, but Republicans are too.
00:18:50.000They're both in favor of open borders.
00:18:51.000The only thing that's different is Trump.
00:18:54.000Trump came along and changed all that.
00:18:55.000But prior to Trump, and even under Trump, look at congressional Republicans, look at the RNC.
00:19:02.000Both parties are in favor of open borders.
00:19:04.000Republicans want open borders and they want mass migration, illegal and legal, because the donors, the big businesses that put up the money for Republicans to run for office, employ cheap labor.
00:19:21.000A lot of the sectors and industries that put up the big money for Republicans in elections directly profit from illegal and legal immigration.
00:19:33.000The number one and number two beneficiaries of immigration are the immigrants themselves and the firms that employ them, the businesses that employ them.
00:19:43.000And so that's why Republicans want it.
00:19:45.000Republicans want all these people to come here because that is labor for big business, and big business writes the checks for Republicans.
00:19:55.000And that is why, for example, Ronald Reagan gave a mass amnesty in 1986.
00:20:00.000Ronald Reagan amnestied 3 million illegal immigrants.
00:20:03.000In other words, made them permanent residents.
00:20:05.000And I don't know if there's a pathway to citizenship in that one, but 3 million illegal immigrants under Reagan.
00:26:07.000And what's left is populists on both sides.
00:26:09.000What's left is populists on the right and on the left.
00:26:12.000That's why people like, you know, I actually kind of agree with like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders on some economic things.
00:26:19.000These big businesses are not America first.
00:26:21.000They're not doing the best thing for the country.
00:26:23.000They're not doing the best thing for workers.
00:26:25.000And we could get into that maybe in later streams, but that's the difference.
00:26:30.000A lot of people might say, oh, Nick Videos and Nick Fuentes, what's the difference?
00:26:33.000Well, the difference is he's one of these Beltway Conservative Inc. types, big business, libertarian conservative, and I'm an America first, nationalist conservative.
00:26:50.000Alt right is like a new way of saying Nazi.
00:26:53.000You know, and everybody understands this.
00:26:55.000The minute that you come up with an argument that somebody can't answer, they call you a racist, they call you a Nazi, but you see over the past five years, those words got kind of played out and nobody really responds to them anymore.
00:27:33.000Okay, so we've encountered now the conservative snowflakes, right?
00:27:37.000These are the, and I don't love these, it's kind of a lame meme, but you know, it's so funny.
00:27:42.000I see people like Nick Videos and all the turning point people will say all day long snowflakes call everything Nazi, snowflakes won't debate, left wing people need their safe spaces, left wingers can't argue.
00:27:54.000And then somebody to the right of them comes on the scene, somebody that's actually right wing comes on the scene, and all these conservatives, Nick Videos and Lance Videos, Nazi, alt right.
00:28:05.000You know, white supremacist, anti Semitic.
00:28:28.000This guy puts on the MAGA hat and says, oh, I'm in favor of gay marriage, I'm in favor of, you know, amnesty for illegals, I'm in favor of mass migration, I'm going to adopt a black kid, I'm in favor of contraception.
00:28:39.000It's like, You're not really conservative, man.
00:29:38.000And by the way, this just happened with Hunter Avalon.
00:29:40.000Hunter Avalon just went through the same thing.
00:29:43.000Where Hunter Avalon, who's a popular conservative YouTuber, he was obviously drifting left for like months and he was doing the same thing.
00:29:52.000He was saying, you know, I'm against the alt right, I think trans people are valid, I'm pro LGBT, I am, you know, in favor of immigration, blah, blah, blah.
00:30:02.000And we were like, dude, you're not a conservative anymore.
00:30:05.000And he'd be like, no, no, no, actually, this is really conservative.
00:30:24.000So, Nick Videos, my message to you is this take off the MAGA hat, take off the cowboy hat, drop the Trump flag, drop the conservative shtick.
00:31:05.000You know, this guy, he says, and that's the other thing I wanted to address in the TikTok, he says, we have to team up to defeat the alt right.
00:31:15.000It's like, number one, we're not alt right.
00:31:17.000Number two, before we get into the other stuff, The guy says in his video, he says, left wingers, liberals, conservatives, we all have to team up against America first.
00:31:44.000So, you would rather team up with the people that doxxed you, tried to get you kicked out of college, made up fake screenshots to defame you.
00:31:53.000You would rather team up with those people than me because I'm a little bit further to the right than you.
00:32:41.000You're teaming up with them so that you can stop America First, pro worker, pro America, you know, close borders, strong borders, immigration restriction, trade protection, and end to foreign wars.
00:32:55.000You'd rather team up with them than, you know.
00:33:30.000But on top of that, just a very sad display.
00:33:33.000You know, imagine going into a debate to debate some like pro abortion feminist and then being like, hi, hi, we're going to be best friends now.
00:33:44.000And you know, he makes TikToks where he's like drooling over girls.
00:33:46.000You know, they do the one where they take a sip of water and the, huh, like, come on, simp videos, hello?
00:33:53.000Anyway, so these are my initial observations.
00:33:57.000It's like, okay, you're teaming up with the doctors, you're teaming up with the baby killers, you're a simp, but even better is, how are you going to defeat me if you won't even debate me?
00:35:08.000And if you don't believe me, it's like a lot of people say, oh, well, You know, the reason Ben Shapiro won't debate you is because you're not worth his time.
00:35:43.000But he went out back in the fall at Stanford University and said, I was going to talk about one thing tonight, but now I'm going to talk about something else.
00:35:52.000And he proceeds to give a 45 minute speech quoting me, quoting my video.
00:35:58.000You know, the relevance, it's not about, you know, the ideas or anything like that.
00:36:02.000It's like you don't want to engage because you know you would lose.
00:36:05.000Clearly, you want to engage when I'm not on the stage to defend myself, happy to engage with me and what I said directly and my ideas, but just when I'm not on the stage.
00:36:15.000I've got enough clout to be addressed, but just, you know, not on the same stage, not when I'm there to answer, right?
00:36:20.000And so that's the case across the board.
00:36:23.000They don't want to debate because they know that their ideas suck.
00:36:27.000They know that defending mass immigration.
00:36:31.000And, you know, basically like liberalism light, those ideas are terrible.
00:36:36.000And young people actually want real right wing politics.
00:36:41.000And they know that if people really understood what was going on and if they heard about the alternative, right, America first and all that, they would ditch mainstream conservative types in a heartbeat.
00:37:15.000And it's important because we are going to introduce these ideas to a whole new generation.
00:37:20.000And the ideas are not, you know, contrary to what the left wing media would say or contrary to what controlled opposition, right wing people would say, the ideology is not hateful, okay?
00:37:30.000They were saying on their debate today, she's anti Semitic.
00:37:49.000I'm conservative, you know, and they can keep coming at us with this slander, you know, this defamation stuff about, oh, well, you're a Nazi.
00:38:19.000But just because we're cognizant of changing demographics and how race affects immigration, a lot of these things, which maybe we'll get into in future streams, doesn't mean that all Americans can't participate, that not all Americans have a vested interest in this stuff.
00:38:35.000Because, by the way, the black people that are here, as one example, When immigrants come over, who do you think that's hurting?
00:38:42.000It's hurting American workers, of which blacks happen to be a part of that group, of which all people happen to be a part of that group, right?
00:38:51.000So it's not just like, you know, it's really more about America versus everybody else than it is about, you know, one versus the other, one group versus the other.
00:39:00.000I think everybody understands the need for stability, order, demographic consistency, demographic realism, this kind of stuff.
00:41:00.000But in parting, I just want to say if you're new, I don't know how many people are watching this are fans of mine or are new, but if you're new watching this, keep an open mind.