The boomer generation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. The American people will come first once again. First, America. First! America! First, we re watching America First. My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes and I m the host of the Groyper War and Day show on Comedy Central's "America First" and host of Comedy Central s "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert". Tonight we re back with a special update on what s going on behind the scenes in Washington, D.C. and why it s so important to have a strong America First Team in place. We re back Thursday with another update on the latest in the war and day to day going on in the world of politics, and we re here to bring you the latest news and reaction to it! Tweet me with your thoughts and reactions to the latest episode of America First! and we ll do our best to get them on the show! Timestamps: 1:00:00 2:30:00 3:20:00 4:15:00 5:40:00 6:30 7:15 8:00 Is the Baby Boomer Generation a Disaster for the Human Race? 9:40 10:00 The American People Will Always Come First? 11:00 12:00 Americanism, Not Globalism? 13:00 Conservative Inc? 14:00 16:00 17:00 18:00 America First? 15:00 19:00 20:00 21:00 22:00 23:00 27:00 32:00 35:00 36:00 33:00 37:00 38:00 39:00 40:00 45:00 41:00 44:00 46:00 47:00 48:00 Theme song 45:05 Theme song by Ian Dorsch Theme Song by Jeffree Star Music by Ian Somerhalder 5:00 Music by: Jeffree Stars 6:00 Comments by: Hayden Coplen & Other? Music Credit: "Good Morning America" by: "Instrumental Music: "I Can't Do You Know My Name?" by: James Brown by: Ian Macpherson and (feat. & ) Download MP3 by Jeff Perla Subscribe to Myles Wardell ( )
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00:27:58.000And tonight we have for you a little bit of insight into how they're responding to this situation.
00:28:04.000Because if you haven't already known, if you have not been paying very close attention, as this campaign has been going on, as the campaign has been waged, we have seen that Turning Point USA is panicking behind the scenes.
00:28:31.000Two knickers asked questions at Charlie Kirk's culture war campaign tour stop about Israel, legal immigration, and this has jump-started a week of questioning, a week of skepticism, a week of inquiry about whether or not Turning Point USA is actually conservative, or as conservative as they say they are.
00:28:51.000And in response to questions, in response to legitimate policy questions, legitimate ideological questioning, Turning Point USA and their leadership has been scrambling to put a lid on this.
00:29:04.000And you know, to me, it's kind of telling that that is the reaction at all, right?
00:29:08.000And I'm gonna, we're gonna spell this out in much greater detail, you know, I'm just sort of introing the show here, but it's actually pretty incredible that that has been the response to mere questioning.
00:29:17.000Has been a scramble, crisis teams, drastic and swift action, and of course what I'm talking about tonight, I got some intel this morning from many sources, not just one, but I have many people talking to me from the organization, that what happened last night
00:29:33.000After the humiliation at Ohio State on Tuesday, after the counter-attack by Turning Point USA yesterday which failed completely, Turning Point USA instituted a complete and total purge in their organization of everybody who was either participating in or even sympathetic to the Groyper insurgency.
00:29:55.000Everybody that was even a little bit sympathetic to the America First movement
00:30:01.000The America First insurgency, our side of the culture war, was immediately terminated last night.
00:30:13.000And it says that anybody on this list who was seen supporting America First or the Groyper resistance cannot be hired and cannot be contacted by Turning Point USA.
00:30:25.000They sent that out to all their affiliate organizations.
00:30:30.000Leadership Institute, Young Americans for Freedom, Young Americans for Liberty, everybody affiliated with Turning Point USA has received the no contact, no hire list of people sympathetic to the Griper Army.
00:30:48.000I'm always laughing about this, that our little army, our spontaneous
00:30:54.000Little movement of people simply going to a question and answer session and asking questions has prompted first a vicious counter-attack, vicious smears, soundbites pulled out, radio shows being bombarded by groipers, and then last night a massive purge of anybody even remotely affiliated.
00:31:51.000We'll talk about some defections that have happened.
00:31:53.000We saw particularly apparently this is at the Kansas State University.
00:31:58.000The turning point chapter there has effectively completely defected.
00:32:02.000The president, the vice president, and the secretary all resigning from the organization in response to this week's events and also prior events.
00:32:11.000And then on top of that that'll be the first portion of the show
00:32:17.000The second part of the show we're going to talk about how our alliance is growing.
00:32:21.000And to me this is pretty white pilling.
00:32:23.000We've seen now a couple of heady hitters, two in particular, coming out indirectly in support of our cause.
00:32:29.000We saw that Michelle Malkin wrote a piece on American Greatness, her inaugural piece on this publication.
00:32:36.000About how Charlie Kirk is wrong about legal immigration.
00:32:39.000Talking about how he's effectively sponsoring an immigration policy that hurts American workers and helps immigrants, you know, and it helps foreign workers and immigrants to the detriment of American workers.
00:32:50.000We'll talk about that article very... I mean it's a vicious article.
00:32:56.000I don't mean like nasty or personal, but I mean she just takes this guy to task.
00:33:00.000I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.
00:33:02.000So look at this article by Michelle Malkin and of course Jesse Lee Peterson.
00:33:07.000Was on the timeline today, and he was talking about Turning Point USA's support or acceptance of homosexuality and other sexual deviancy.
00:33:16.000Jesse Lee Peterson, of course, is a very virtuous and strong Christian, and he had some things to say about that as well.
00:33:23.000So it looks like our alliance is growing!
00:33:24.000You know, when they came after us yesterday, I believe, and I don't know if this is what they thought, it seemed very desperate yesterday.
00:33:32.000You know, they had to pull out Bridget Gabriel, really.
00:33:34.000You must really be desperate if you're pulling in that retard to help you.
00:33:37.000She deleted her tweet because she got ratioed so hard anyway, right?
00:33:41.000But they got Caleb Hull and Will Chamberlain and Ian Miles Chong.
00:33:45.000Ian Miles Chong, who I believe is a victim of an acid attack.
00:33:48.000I believe Ian Miles Chong was given the Joker treatment, the 1990s Jack Nicholson Joker treatment.
00:33:55.000I think he was a baby who was dropped into a vat of acid, permanently disfigured for life.
00:33:59.000I mean, they really brought out the big guns with Ian Miles Chong and Will Chamberlain of Human Events, a magazine which I think holds the record for biggest failure in the quickest amount of time.
00:34:09.000But they brought out everybody, and it was quite desperate, but I'm sure they thought in their heads that it would have gone like it always does.
00:34:16.000We call them alt-right, we call them racist, we call them homophobic, and so on.
00:34:21.000We get the verified cadre of MAGA grifters and turning point proxies, and if we just get them to shill hard enough to get as nasty as possible, we get Jeremy Boring, Hollywood schmuck.
00:34:34.000If we just get enough of these people, we can bury these young kids.
00:34:37.000We can bury Nicholas J. Fuentes and the metal engroipers, right?
00:35:12.000And they are levying those criticisms as well.
00:35:15.000So, those are our two main stories tonight.
00:35:17.000The purge, the defections, as well as the cavalry coming in.
00:35:21.000I have to tell you, it's like every day, and I thought tonight, like, okay, we're gonna go back to a normal show and we'll talk about, like, Nancy Pelosi and Tulsi Gabbard and, you know, all this kind of stuff, but really it seems like every day this week has just been so eventful.
00:35:36.000I have to tell you, because I talk to a lot of people,
00:35:40.000I've been doing this show for two years and over that time I've built up a lot of contacts.
00:35:44.000People in Washington D.C., people in L.A., people in a lot of different industries within politics.
00:35:51.000And I don't mean to say that in any kind of way other than to say I have my ear to the ground.
00:35:55.000I kind of have my finger on the pulse of what's happening in the political scene.
00:36:00.000And I will tell you that everybody is talking about this.
00:36:50.000I have to tell you, this is the biggest thing happening in conservative politics right now out of the whole scene, but that nobody is reporting on.
00:36:58.000But believe me, they're talking about it.
00:37:17.000And I have to say this at the outset before I'm not even a dive in I still even have to just introduce some things But before I get into any of that, I do just want to say for everybody watching We must ensure that this week goes down as a world historical moment for our movement this week What is the week?
00:37:41.000Maybe it began with Politicon on the 26th?
00:37:44.000So this last week of October 29, from the 26th to the 31st, you know, whatever exactly the dates are, but this week, I think you know what I'm talking about, this must go down in history as the start of something really special.
00:38:51.000You know, imagine it's Halloween and you're all ready to go in your costume and all that, and you can't even go trick-or-treating because it's snowing, you know?
00:38:58.000When I was a kid and I would get dressed up, I would be furious if it was cold because then I'd have to wear a jacket.
00:39:30.000But, uh, so that's a little bit disappointing.
00:39:32.000But happy Halloween for those people out there.
00:39:34.000You know, I was gonna do, I was planning on doing some kind of a special
00:39:38.000For Halloween, like maybe carve the pumpkin up, or maybe do a call-in show or something, but I've just been so busy this week.
00:39:46.000I've been slammed, taking phone calls, big plans are underway because of what happened.
00:39:50.000There's so much attention, resources are coming into play, networks are being built, that I just didn't have the time to put together a show that was like festive and put up a tarp everywhere, smash the pumpkin.
00:40:02.000I was unsuccessful in punching a hole in it throughout the season, so I guess it's not gonna get carved.
00:40:07.000I guess it's like, you know, when they pardon the turkey on Thanksgiving.
00:40:11.000The pumpkin is pardoned after all the abuse I've given it.
00:40:14.000I don't know what I'm gonna do with this thing.
00:40:32.000Don't be, you know what I'm talking about.
00:40:34.000Don't go to these parties and be stupid.
00:40:37.000But also, before we dive in, I do just want to, of course, tell you that right now as we speak, the Steven Crowder event is happening at Texas A&M University.
00:40:47.000I was, I put this on my telegram, I was going to cover this on DLive at 7 o'clock when the show was supposed to start, but you know, I went through his past college speeches and events, and I looked at some of the information about it, and I really couldn't gauge
00:41:21.000It looks like he's shooting a podcast, sort of, while he's doing it.
00:41:25.000So, I didn't want to... I didn't want to broadcast that if there was a lot of confusion, you know, and we were on for two hours just watching the Steven Crowder Show.
00:42:13.000The next event is actually Dan Crenshaw on November 4th at Texas A&M and it's a Prove Me Wrong.
00:42:19.000So hopefully that means a lot of engagement.
00:42:21.000Hopefully we're gonna have a lot of groipers that are gonna try to prove him wrong.
00:42:24.000I will say one thing about Dan Crenshaw, which is different than the others.
00:42:28.000For Dan Crenshaw, you gotta remember our target audience is Turning Point members and ostensibly Trump supporters, you know, your run-of-the-mill conservatives.
00:42:38.000I'll say about Dan Crenshaw, we have a certain attitude about who he is and what he's about and what he's trying to do in the sense that I believe he uses his military service in order to give him credibility when he advocates for indefensible positions like keeping the war in Afghanistan going on, keeping a residual force in Syria, and so on.
00:42:57.000You know, this is somebody who wears the eyepatch and this is a very visible waving the bloody shirt strategy where he says, I was in the war, I served, and that's why you should support war in Afghanistan like I do.
00:43:10.000I think that's a very dishonest tactic.
00:43:32.000All the questions that I've seen so far were very respectful, very cordial, very polite, and they were good questions.
00:43:39.000So I don't expect anything different for Dan Crenshaw.
00:43:41.000But I will say, just be mindful of that.
00:43:44.000Because all eyes are going to be on us on Monday with this Dan Crenshaw thing and I think it would really be bad optics for us.
00:43:51.000I think it would be a really bad look if we had somebody show up and disrespect him because they're memeing or they're trying to be funny or something.
00:43:58.000You gotta remember the whole point is to reach out to a target audience.
00:44:03.000Turning point people, MAGA types, people like this, asking the questions that we're asking, being sympathetic to the ideas we're trying to promulgate.
00:44:12.000And so to go out there full-throated and to make fun of him and, you know, do some of the meme type things we do, I think that would be a very bad look.
00:44:23.000Andrew Claven will be at Boston College on November 5th.
00:44:26.000The following day, Matt Walsh will be at California State University on November 5th as well.
00:44:32.000Ben Shapiro will be at Stanford University on November 7th, and Dan Crenshaw will be back for a Turning Point event on November 8th at Arizona State University.
00:44:43.000As I said yesterday, find one that's close to you, if you feel confident, if you have a question, go out, you know, try and make yourself heard, get in line.
00:44:52.000And remember, as with Dan Crenshaw, the same applies with all these questions.
00:44:56.000We want to ask respectful, substantive questions.
00:44:59.000You know, we want to be on our best behavior because you see how they're trying to spear what we're trying to do.
00:45:05.000They're trying to make it look like we are trolls.
00:45:10.000And in a certain sense, we are trying to disrupt the conversation.
00:45:13.000In a certain sense, we are trying to hijack the turning point tour in order to expose how they're not conservative.
00:45:20.000But the only way that we can do that persuasively, the only way that people will find what we're doing to be
00:45:27.000You know, maybe something that's noble or something that's interesting is if we are not the same old sort of provocateurs so-called from 2015 or 2016.
00:45:35.000We're not trying to turn it into a clown show, you know, no pun intended, no joker reference intended.
00:45:41.000We are trying to get people to think about Turning Point USA and right-wing ideology and what does it mean to be an American conservative.
00:45:48.000So, so just things to keep in mind, but we want to also keep it fun and light-hearted as well.
00:45:53.000We're gonna dive into our latest installments, our latest developments in the Groyper War, the Groyper War, the Great Groyper War.
00:47:25.000Young students and campus conservatives or campus liberals to ask him about his ideas, to engage with him in the marketplace of ideas and discuss why the free market and Turning Point USA's brand of conservatism is the answer.
00:47:41.000We are getting tickets to their event.
00:47:43.000We're showing up on time, respectfully listening to his speech, and then we're lining up in the Q&A politely as one is supposed to do and simply asking questions.
00:47:53.000And the response to this has been in the
00:47:56.000First place, as we saw yesterday, the vicious smears, the nasty personal attacks, Hillary Clinton-esque attacks.
00:48:02.000I think at one point Sebastian Gorka even said about me, and the people calling in who represented me, that we were irredeemable.
00:48:09.000I mean, those were the exact words of Hillary Clinton.
00:48:12.000In 2016, when she said that Donald Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables, irredeemables, racist, sexist, homophobic.
00:48:20.000I mean, that's literally what Hillary Clinton said.
00:48:22.000And this is what these people are regurgitating about America First students asking about H-1B visas and legal immigration and all the rest, right?
00:48:30.000And so all of this reeks of desperation.
00:48:32.000The response to questions has not been answers.
00:48:40.000So we got all the attacks yesterday, and then last night in the evening, after my show, after everybody had gone to bed and I was playing Fortnite and everything, I started to hear from some of my sources on the ground, inside the organization, some friends of mine.
00:48:55.000I mean, many, many people coming to me with this.
00:48:58.000That what took place last night was essentially a crystal night, a night of the long knives, so to speak.
00:49:04.000I mean, Turning Point USA, kind of like the Nazi regime.
00:49:07.000I mean, they're kind of like a fascist or, you know, maybe even like a communist regime.
00:49:16.000They all corroborate the same basic scheme, which is, in the first place, they instituted and created a list.
00:49:23.000It's called a no-hire, no-contact list.
00:49:26.000And this means that if you're a turning point supervisor or field representative or regional coordinator or anything like that, if you're on this list, those people will not be able to hire you and they will not be able to contact you.
00:49:39.000So they've essentially created this massive blacklist.
00:49:43.000And it's so funny, that's what we've been saying for years, that they blacklist people.
00:49:48.000It's a list of people a blacklist sort of like a covert secret list like a black paper of people that cannot be hired cannot be talked to cannot be associated with they've created it's a no hire no call list okay you've created a blacklist you've created a shit list of everybody that opposes you it's made up of everybody who has supported our movement
00:50:09.000Who is sympathetic to our movement, who has voiced privately or publicly concerns or criticisms about Charlie Kirk's handling of the situation.
00:50:17.000They got everybody, well, almost everybody.
00:50:20.000They got nearly everybody who is sympathetic to our little movement banned and put on a blacklist from Turning Point USA.
00:50:28.000In addition to that, they took this list and they sent this out to the Leadership Institute, which you may be familiar with.
00:50:35.000I am a Leadership Institute alumnus myself.
00:50:39.000I worked there for a little bit or I attended a job training for Leadership Institute.
00:50:44.000It's one of the bigger think tanks in Washington DC.
00:50:47.000A lot of their coordinators are the ones that are setting up YAL chapters, YAF chapters, Turning Point chapters, Second Amendment, Federalist Society type organizations on campus.
00:50:58.000So Leadership Institute is a pretty central node.
00:51:48.000They responded, first of all, with non-answers, just outright deflections.
00:51:52.000You know, the first question was, if you could make a decision, or rather, if the President could make a decision that would benefit Americans, but might harm Israel, might come at the detriment of Israel, would you make that decision?
00:52:04.000And Charlie Kirk said, well, that's a false question, and everyone who asks it is an anti-Semite, and Israel doesn't throw gay people off buildings.
00:52:42.000Some person, Dave Riley, a friend of mine, asked about how homosexuality is not really a Christian value, of course, and then not really a conservative value, so why is Turning Point USA promoting it?
00:52:54.000The people on stage reacted by saying, that's a weird question, and insinuated that the asker was gay himself.
00:53:00.000Which is kind of interesting, because, and this is a little bit of an aside, I mean, that reaction in particular is kind of interesting.
00:53:07.000If you're trying to tell people that there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, if you're Rob Smith, the gay black veteran on stage, you know, or Charlie Kirk, the gay respecter, the gay veteran respecter, aren't you trying to make the case that homosexuality is tolerable and normal?
00:53:22.000So then, if that's the case, why turn it around and say, well, if you ask about it, maybe you're the gay one?
00:53:27.000I mean, don't you see though the inconsistencies, the hypocrisy, how these people really were just not prepared from the beginning?
00:53:34.000So that's reaction number one to questions.
00:53:36.000Reaction number two to questions is, as I said, the vicious smears.
00:53:40.000Anybody who asks questions about whether Turning Point USA is conservative, anybody who supports Nicholas J. Fuentes or watches his show, is a racist, homophobic, white supremacist, alt-right,
00:53:55.000And then if that wasn't good enough, if it wasn't good enough that they could not simply answer the question, but then turn around and attack anybody asking the questions, or sympathetic to the people asking the questions, then of course they have to go out and just simply fire everybody who asks the questions.
00:54:10.000Fire them, fire everybody who is sympathetic to those asking the questions, and then put them on a blacklist to make sure that nobody would ever hire, or associate with, or call them ever again.
00:54:21.000And of course, these are the actions of an organization which does not fear investigation.
00:54:27.000These are the actions of a completely self-assured, strong, confident organization, confident in their convictions, courageous about their beliefs, right?
00:54:37.000Of course this tells us operationally.
00:55:00.000Understand that all of this, as I keep reminding people, is in response to nine simple questions.
00:55:06.000Nine simple, straightforward questions about what makes Turning Point USA so conservative.
00:55:11.000And the response to college kids, Trump-supporting college kids, asking these questions about why Turning Point USA is not defending Christian morality, or not defending an America First immigration procedure, is this.
00:55:26.000I'm told that Charlie Kirk is upset, panicking, calling friends, asking for advice.
00:55:31.000I'm told they've brought in a whole team, because you know that in the world of political consulting, they have these crisis management teams who put together statements and strategies for how to combat this stuff.
00:55:42.000How about something as simple as asking, or rather answering, the questions?
00:55:47.000Something as simple as defending your beliefs.
00:55:51.000These are so unquestionable, unconditionally true conservative ideas, that you can't simply answer questions about them, innocuous, honest questions about them.
00:56:13.000These are not the actions of an organization which is really that powerful, really that put together.
00:56:18.000These people are very vulnerable and we need to push the issue.
00:56:21.000The second part is not so much operational but ideological.
00:56:24.000If they're out there and their message is, and Charlie Kirk's in particular, his message is, you can come and challenge me on any of my ideas, anybody, anywhere, at any time,
00:56:36.000And the answer to what's happening in the country is more dialogue and not less, and how we're going to help the country is to come together and have conversations and not censor each other.
00:56:47.000If Charlie Kirk's response to a simple questioning is to put all these people on the case, all these people hunting the Groypers, you know, and it's, we're fleeing, it's like Jews fleeing the brown shirts, we're fleeing Charlie Kirk's Gestapo, we're fleeing Charlie Kirk's NKVD, his secret police, right?
00:57:07.000They're slandering people, they're doing show trials, purges and everything, right?
00:57:11.000It shows just the sheer farce of the whole situation, the sheer hypocrisy.
00:57:15.000As I've said, this action, like all the other actions by Turning Point USA preceding it, only proves that Charlie Kirk is not an honest broker, not a conservative.
00:57:26.000He exists, and Turning Point USA exists, to control the conversation.
00:57:34.000And I've actually gotten some information from other people.
00:57:37.000And other organizations in Turning Point and YAF and YAL.
00:57:40.000And Turning Point has positioned themselves over the years as the organization that dictates what the conservative conversation is on the college campus.
00:57:50.000They worked for years to co-opt Young Americans for Liberty, Young Americans for Freedom, or Young Americans Foundation.
00:57:57.000I forget what exactly the acronym stands for.
00:57:59.000But they have worked for years to co-opt all the other college conservative organizations and they have positioned themselves
00:58:48.000It's not like he doesn't know that this is hypocritical.
00:58:51.000And he can pretend all he wants that he doesn't know what's going on.
00:58:53.000He can pretend that he doesn't know who I am.
00:58:55.000He can pretend that he doesn't know what a Groyper is, or what was done at OSU and how it's coordinated and everything else.
00:59:02.000But at the end of the day, it's not a matter of ignorance or stupidity, it's a matter of very coordinated and calculated deception.
00:59:08.000They have created a facade that they are the free speech warriors, they are the conservative, anti-SJW force on the college campus, and they act as a magnet for everybody that is not left-wing.
00:59:19.000You know, people say, well, I'm not on board with socialism.
00:59:44.000They do not believe in the free marketplace of ideas, they believe in the controlled marketplace of ideas.
00:59:50.000They are controlled opposition, controlled conservatives.
00:59:53.000They want to make sure, and this is why all their debates look the same, this is why all their events look and sound the same, they want to make sure that the conversation on the college campus does not deviate.
01:00:18.000You can go up and ask Charlie Kirk about whether he supports a flat tax.
01:00:22.000You could go up and ask Charlie Kirk whether he believes taxation is theft.
01:00:26.000You could go up and ask Charlie Kirk if he believes there should even be millionaires and billionaires if you're on the other side.
01:00:31.000But you cannot ask Charlie Kirk why he sees people as economic units, why he sees Americans as interchangeable, why he effectively believes that race is a social construct, why he believes that homosexuality should be not simply tolerated but accepted and welcomed and promoted.
01:00:49.000When he himself says he's a Christian and his donors are Christian.
01:00:54.000It's about controlling the dialectic and making sure that nobody moves off of his little plantation of what they believe conservatism and politics to be.
01:01:03.000It's a donor sanitized image of what the conversation ought to be.
01:01:07.000But it's not working because young people understand this intuitively.
01:01:11.000They see what's happening to the country and the smart ones, the smart people that are asking these questions and the geniuses that watch this show, they see what's happening in the country and they watch Charlie Kirk and they say, you know what?
01:01:24.000This whole lens of the free market and libertinism, it really is not consistent with what we're seeing.
01:01:30.000What we're seeing is mass demographic change.
01:01:33.000What we're seeing is complete and total libertinism, total hedonism.
01:01:37.000What we saw last week with James Younger cannot be explained away with this idea of limited government and Big Gov sucks.
01:01:44.000These answers are not sufficient to explain the world around us and they're not sufficient to explain how we change it or how we create a better world.
01:01:54.000That's what this entire movement is about.
01:01:57.000And so the Purge only shows that that is the case.
01:02:00.000You know, they say they're in favor of free speech, but if you're in the wrong picture, asked the wrong question, sympathize with somebody who's in the picture.
01:02:07.000Sympathize with somebody who asked the wrong question.
01:02:10.000And you cannot work for their organization.
01:02:19.000They're saying if you don't fear social ostracism,
01:02:22.000If you don't fear being ostracized in a subtle or indirect way, in an implied way, if we tweet about you or tweet about Nick Fuentes, then we'll just fire you.
01:02:31.000Then we will just put you on a blacklist.
01:02:33.000So Turning Point is escalating their war against us.
01:02:36.000It started out with, you know, if you ask a question, we're going to put you down.
01:02:40.000You know, if you ask a question, we're going to dismiss it and we're going to be nasty to you.
01:02:45.000And then it turned into, if you ask questions or you sympathize, we're going to call you white supremacists and you're on notice.
01:02:51.000Anybody that's on board with this is on the no-go side, right?
01:02:55.000And then they escalated full stop to, if you support this, we will just simply fire you, we will blacklist you, we will make sure you cannot work.
01:03:06.000They are afraid that the conversation is slipping out of their control, it's slipping out of their hands, and young people are starting to wake up and take charge.
01:03:40.000And I said, you know, if you're in Turning Point USA and you support what we're doing, send me an email.
01:03:45.000And I got so many emails, so many more people I know in Turning Point USA since this has started than before it did.
01:03:52.000And we've still got people in there at the low levels, at the high levels, people that are sympathetic on the periphery.
01:03:58.000You know, so if these people think that they could just fire everybody, if they think that a couple of tweets from that fat idiot, that fat slave to the ethnic lobby, Sebastian Gorka,
01:04:08.000If they think that that dysgenic freak Ian Milestrong and his failure trust fund kid, loser lawyer Will Chamberlain of human events, if they think that a couple of tweets from that retard, shrill moron Bridget Gabriel is going to stop our movement, they have another thing coming.
01:04:26.000They're making the problem worse and not better.
01:04:30.000The more that they do this kind of stuff, the more they just expose the hypocrisy.
01:04:35.000People that hate me are DMing me and messaging me, I don't like your views, I don't like you personally, but you're right and Charlie Kirk is wrong.
01:04:45.000This has happened every day since this whole thing started.
01:04:48.000Which begs the question, why did they not just answer honestly our innocent inquiries last week or at OSU?
01:05:10.000And you shouldn't be either until they capitulate!
01:05:12.000And they either jump on board with us as real conservatives, and they say that we oppose demographic change and we will uphold Christian morals and so on, or they bring us to the table and engage with us.
01:05:23.000But until one of those two things happen, and I don't think the former is going to happen, until we get a seat at the table, and they respect us as America First conservatives, and we have a voice, and we have a say, and we are represented in the same conservative movement, or this will continue!
01:05:38.000I have so many people, and I see this online, it's totally paid for.
01:05:42.000If you've been on 4chan, Turning Point USA is literally paying people.
01:05:46.000To go to 4chan and repost the same messages.
01:06:15.000I'll have to fire a lot more people before we're through with them.
01:06:18.000The other big development on their end are the defections.
01:06:22.000You know, they're firing people, but also people are fleeing.
01:06:25.000The people that haven't fled they had to fire, but we saw this morning that the, it looks like the entire leadership of the Kansas State University
01:06:34.000Kansas State University Turning Point USA chapter have all quit this morning.
01:06:39.000It started with the chapter president Jaden McNeil and then his vice president and his secretary of one of the largest Turning Point chapters in the entire country have all stepped down, citing the recent events as their motivation.
01:06:53.000And I will read to you the letter from President Jaden of the Turning Point chapter at KSU, his reasoning for leaving.
01:07:01.000He said, quote, it is with great disappointment that I announce my resignation as president of Turning Point USA at Kansas State University.
01:07:09.000I started this chapter in September 2018 because other conservative clubs on campus lack the ability to combat the left.
01:07:17.000Many such cases like this, many cases, there's nowhere else to go.
01:07:21.000Turning Point's a conservative chapter on the campus, or the conservative club on the campus, and so they join, not knowing what they're getting into.
01:07:28.000He says, quote, since then I've worked hard to build this chapter into one of the largest and most successful in the Midwest.
01:07:33.000So this is one of the bigger chapters.
01:07:36.000Pretty important that this guy stepping down.
01:07:38.000He says, last spring, TPUSA even had me speak on a student leader panel at one of their conferences.
01:07:44.000However, as a dedicated conservative and a devout Christian, I believe the turning point no longer reflects my values.
01:07:52.000And this is exactly what we're talking about.
01:07:55.000You know, they want to put me up as the poster boy for this.
01:07:58.000They want to make me the face of this and say, he represents, you know, the white supremacy and he's the new Westboro Baptist Church and so on.
01:08:06.000It's never been about me and it's never been about, you know, trolling or sabotage.
01:08:12.000It's about young conservatives, young Christians.
01:08:15.000Who are looking for a political movement or campus organization that reflects their values, and they think they're getting it at Turning Point USA, come to find out they're bringing up people like Ricky Rebel on the stage.
01:08:26.000So he says, as a dedicated conservative and a devout Christian, I believe that Turning Point no longer reflects my values.
01:08:32.000And this takes so much courage for him to do this.
01:08:34.000He says, quote, my misgivings with Turning Point first arose in the aftermath of the Covington Catholic incident.
01:08:40.000Many Turning Point associates initially sided with the left-wing mob, condemning the innocent high school students for having the gall to smile in the face of an adult's aggressive behavior.
01:08:52.000Sounds kind of like the Groypers smiling in the face of Charlie Kirk, right?
01:08:56.000And the similar response, you know, people joining in with the left wing to attack us.
01:09:00.000He says, These Turning Point associates only changed their tune once it became safe to take the side of the MAGA-supporting Catholic high school students.
01:09:09.000This incident encapsulates the fair-weather conservatism of Turning Point.
01:09:15.000More recently, Rob Smith belittled a number of Christians at The Ohio State University after they questioned whether or not homosexuality constitutes a conservative value.
01:09:25.000I harbor no hatred toward homosexuals.
01:09:27.000However, as a conservative Christian, I do not believe that gay marriage and drag queens should be glorified and promoted.
01:09:36.000Benny Johnson says this is the Westboro Baptist Church.
01:09:39.000He says, I harbor no hatred towards them, but I just simply believe that gay marriage and drag queens should not be glorified and promoted.
01:11:10.000You know, they make it out like classical liberalism is the only expression of conservatism.
01:11:14.000They completely ignore social conservatism.
01:11:17.000Jaden goes on, he says, quote, Additionally, President Trump ran on his commitment to the forgotten men and women of this country, to put them first and to help rebuild our crumbling middle class.
01:11:27.000I feel, as many do, that Turning Point not only ignores this commitment, but in many ways works to exacerbate it with their completely tone-deaf views on immigration.
01:11:38.000He says it is not simply illegal immigration, which has undermined this great country, but mass legal immigration as well.
01:11:44.000Turning Point's immigration position favors the elites who care more about profit than hardworking Americans.
01:11:51.000A true America First organization would put the American worker above their donors.
01:11:56.000Unfortunately, that is not Turning Point USA.
01:11:59.000Is there anything in here that you disagree with?
01:12:02.000Is there anything in here that any conservative could disagree with?
01:12:05.000Or any Trump supporter could disagree with?
01:12:08.000So far, his problem with Turning Point USA is that they fecklessly stood with the media and the left wing when they attacked the Covington Catholic kids!
01:12:17.000Young, white, MAGA-supporting, Catholic students in Washington, D.C.
01:12:21.000They joined in the media to condemn them.
01:12:23.000And then they turned around and they said, oh no, mea culpa when it became popular to do so.
01:12:28.000I think everybody saw what a hypocrisy that was, what a fraud that was.
01:12:32.000Does anybody disagree that that was bullshit?
01:12:35.000Jaden says that he opposes Turning Point glorifying drag queens and gay marriage.
01:12:40.000Anybody have a problem with that as a conservative?
01:12:42.000And then lastly he says, oh I just simply believe that, you know, maybe Turning Point USA should put American workers ahead of profit and foreign workers.
01:12:51.000Yeah, but Benny Johnson says this is the new Westboro Baptist Church, right?
01:12:55.000And Daily Wire says that these are white supremacist, bottom-feeding losers.
01:12:59.000This is the kind of rhetoric we heard from the so-called Make America Great Again, Turning Point, USA proxies.
01:13:06.000They said that anybody that agrees with this, anybody that this resonates with, bottom-feeding, white supremacist, hate-filled gremlins, losers.
01:13:15.000Does that tell you how out of touch these people are?
01:13:18.000Does that tell you what these people are really about?
01:13:20.000Jaden says, Finally, contrary to Turning Point's public support for free speech and open debate, they have fostered a culture of censorship wherein certain subjects are deemed off-limits, and those who dare broach them are quickly blacklisted.
01:13:44.000They're literally blacklisted if they broach the wrong subjects.
01:13:48.000This happened recently to a former Turning Point brand ambassador whose relationship with the organization was severed after she was photographed in the same room with a controversial YouTuber.
01:13:59.000I strongly believe that guilt by association and refusing to engage with controversial ideas is fundamentally at odds with the free market of ideas cherished by most conservatives.
01:14:10.000Yesterday I decided I had no other choice but to step down when I was ordered by Turning Point staff to delete a Twitter thread voicing my concerns about Turning Point's hypocrisy or they would remove him from his position.
01:14:23.000So on top of all of that, he decided he could not move forward because he refused to comply with an order by his higher-ups at Turning Point to delete his Twitter thread calling out Turning Point on their hypocrisy, which I think is a very noble and courageous thing to do.
01:14:37.000He says, quote, I can provide many more examples, but I've chosen to list only the most significant.
01:14:42.000I stress that despite my misgivings with Turning Point leadership, many Turning Point members are sincere, intelligent, and dedicated.
01:14:49.000Indeed, I'm still proud to call many of them friends.
01:14:52.000Nevertheless, at this point, I cannot, in good faith, remain a member of an organization that does not reflect my deeply held conservative values.
01:15:00.000And I have to say, it doesn't get better than this.
01:15:02.000It doesn't get better than former Turning Point Chapter President Jaden McNeil stepping down.
01:15:17.000I don't think you can recover from something like this, because everything in here is 100% true.
01:15:23.000Everything in here is what Donald Trump ran on, it's what Turning Point USA purports to represent, but Jaden points out all the hypocrisies here.
01:15:31.000These are the kind of people that will make up the America First movement.
01:15:35.000These are the kind of people that are asking these questions.
01:15:37.000Somebody like Jaden McNeil is what Benny Johnson would call a bottom feeder, a hate-filled gremlin, a Westboro Baptist Church kid.
01:15:44.000And to me, if that doesn't tell you what's going on, I don't know what else does.
01:15:48.000I don't know how anybody can remain in this organization.
01:15:51.000And you have to say, at a personal level, hats off to Jaden McNeil.
01:15:55.000You have to know that he's taking a big risk doing this.
01:15:58.000You have to know that he's taking a huge career risk.
01:16:01.000You know, ostensibly he's involved in politics because he's in Turning Point USA.
01:16:05.000You can imagine that he probably wants a future in politics.
01:16:08.000And he is very publicly opposing one of the most powerful organizations in the country taking a stand for American workers, for Christians, taking a stand for the Covington kids months after the fact when everybody's forgotten about it.
01:16:21.000You know, so he's put his career on the line, he's put his reputation on the line to do the right thing.
01:16:26.000And it's not like this guy was somebody that embedded themselves this week.
01:16:30.000You know, we've been telling people to get in Turning Point USA and hijack it.
01:16:35.000As far as I'm concerned, I don't even know if he watches my show.
01:16:38.000But this is somebody who was in Turning Point USA, who built his chapter from the ground up as a normie, regular campus conservative, became the president.
01:16:46.000He was the president of one of the biggest organizations in the Midwest.
01:17:30.000But also in terms of the moral courage.
01:17:33.000This, to me, more than anything, is what separates us from the rest.
01:17:37.000This is a movement of people that actually have courage.
01:17:40.000You know, Charlie Kirk gets on Twitter with all his donor money, he makes $700,000 a year, he's best friends with all the big politicos, and he uses his platform to say what?
01:17:51.000He uses his platform to talk about how Walmart should pay less tax, you know, and everybody calls him brave.
01:17:56.000Wow, what a really stunning and brave and courageous take, really controversial.
01:18:01.000You know, Charlie Kirk gets on stage and says, I know it might not be politically correct, but God bless the state of Israel, you know, give me a break.
01:18:34.000They're trying to... Sebastian Gorka for the past two days has been doing his whole radio show about how I'm an anti-Semite because I said that we should withhold foreign aid to Israel because they spy on us.
01:18:47.000They want to divert, they want to use all these disgusting left-wing tactics, because they know that this is what we're talking about.
01:18:54.000They know the people at OSU, people asking questions last week, myself, people that watch this show, we are like Jaden.
01:19:00.000We're defending the workers, we're defending our families, our communities, we are serving Jesus Christ, and they're terrified of that, because we are only afraid of God, and not Charlie Kirk, and certainly not Charlie Kirk's donors, right?
01:21:00.000If I stand up for America First workers and the Gropers and all this, well I'm not going to be able to rub shoulders with Will Chamberlain at Trump Hotel in DC.
01:21:25.000It's the Zoomers that are standing up and we're saying, we see what's wrong, we see what's right, and we're going to take a stand for America first.
01:21:33.000We also saw this from Jesse Lee Peterson and Michelle Malkin.
01:22:16.000It's on Michelle Malkin's Twitter timeline.
01:22:18.000You can even Google Michelle Malkin, American Greatness, Michelle Malkin, Charlie Kirk, whatever.
01:22:24.000Michelle Malkin, a former Fox News contributor and the founder of Twitchy and Hot Air, tore into Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk on Wednesday in a scathing article for American Greatness after Kirk claimed America should, quote, staple a green card behind every diploma.
01:22:45.000Uh, during a university speech last week.
01:22:48.000She says, quote, I was flabbergasted to hear Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk telling students at a university campus lecture last week that we should staple a green card behind your diploma, Malkin declared.
01:23:01.000Quote, he repeated this nonsense at Ohio State University during a culture war tour stop this week, asserting that any foreign national who graduates from any four-year college should get a green card if any American employer needs to fill a job.
01:23:18.000Kirk's proposal is even more extreme than Silicon Valley tech lobbyists pet project.
01:23:23.000She said, doesn't just, she said, Turning Point, the Turning Point USA founder doesn't just want to inundate the IT job market with low-wage Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Sudanese, or whatever.
01:23:34.000He wants to open the floodgates in all labor markets whether or not there is a purported labor shortage.
01:24:10.000Exempt from payroll taxes is a recipe for American companies outsourcing jobs on American soil and stabbing American college grads and post grads in the back.
01:24:20.000She said that's a sadistic and suicidal way to win the culture war.
01:24:24.000Put America first and make America great again.
01:24:29.000And to me, I don't know about you, but I read this article, I read Jayden's statement.
01:24:34.000Do you not sense that something is different this time?
01:24:38.000Do you not sense that what we're doing, what we're talking about, is 100% the righteous, Christian, conservative cause?
01:24:47.000I have no doubt in my mind that we are doing the right thing.
01:24:50.000I have no doubt in my mind that we have the right platform.
01:24:54.000And you can take a look at the courageous, strong-willed, you know, I mean these are really solid people that are standing up for what we're doing whether it's at the
01:25:02.000Campus level, Jada McNeil, a student, chapter president, Michelle Malkin.
01:25:07.000Is what they're writing, is there any hint of doubt in your mind that this is not 100% what we need to be on?
01:25:13.000I mean, to me, I read this, this is the most compelling thing I've read in years.
01:25:18.000I haven't heard anything this compelling since the 2016 election.
01:25:21.000And everybody knows how far away people like Charlie Kirk and all the people that have hijacked this administration have moved away from this.
01:25:29.000I read this and there's no doubt in my mind that within one year, in one year's time, this will be the dominant strain in conservatism.
01:26:25.000It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen.
01:26:27.000And you know, normally I feel a certain way about women in politics, but Michelle Malkin's killing it.
01:26:32.000So she wrote this article calling him out on immigration, and then in sort of a one-two punch, and we got Jesse Lee Peterson hitting him on the LGBT promotion.
01:26:42.000Jesse Lee Peterson today tweeted, quote, Conservatives are making a huge mistake putting LGBTQ activists front and center on college campuses.
01:26:51.000Pop culture and schools are indoctrinating Millennials and Zoomers with radical LGBT and socialist ideas.
01:26:58.000Young people are struggling with morality and this is the last thing they need.
01:27:16.000If conservatives are going to abandon Christianity, the bedrock of their belief system, what makes them any different than godless Democrats?
01:27:24.000So it looks like everybody's starting to ask the right questions.
01:27:28.000Finally, those two individuals, Kay Alexander and Patrick Bateman at Colorado, and that is what is the most incredible thing to me.
01:28:19.000I hesitate to say this because there's a lot of gravity in what I'm about to say, but I really do believe there is something in the same way that Donald Trump's election took off in 2015 and 2016
01:28:32.000The things I'm seeing, the network that's being built, the courage, the moral conviction, the intelligence, the cogency with which they make their points here.
01:28:42.000I can't help but think there is a providential hand that is guiding this.
01:28:46.000I don't know if you get the same idea.
01:28:48.000I don't, you know, I say that with, you know, with a great degree of humility when I say this.
01:28:53.000But I hear, I read that letter, I read this article by Michelle Malkin, I see what Jesse Lee Peterson is saying.
01:29:19.000At long last, the Christians, the conservatives, the real people defending what's really right and just in the world are finally being given a little bit of a helping hand to really make it count this time, to really make a movement that'll last after I think we squandered a lot of momentum in 2015 and 2016.
01:29:35.000So I see this from Jesse Lee Peterson.
01:30:18.000It's just you driving a couple hours to Ohio State to get in line and ask your question.
01:30:24.000You know, you prepare your question, you rehearse it and so on.
01:30:27.000It's just us young kids just doing what's right, just trying to tell the truth.
01:30:31.000And so to see some of the old vanguard, I don't mean that in a negative way, but to see Michelle Malkin, Jesse Lee Peterson, some of these established figures reach down and give us a little bit of a hand, give us a little bit of cover, it's so white-pilling and now we're simply waiting for everybody else.
01:30:46.000I hope that the more this happens, the dominoes just start to fall.
01:30:49.000I really do get that sense of the momentum.
01:32:50.000This was after the summer of this year.
01:32:52.000You know, I think we really felt sort of run down and maybe a little bit confused about the direction and I feel now just like we have the wind at our backs.
01:33:02.000I feel like God's hand is pushing us forward and clearing a path for us.
01:33:06.000I've never seen anything like it and of course we still have to be smart, we still have to be strategic, we have to be optical and all those things but you know there's a real opportunity here and we really have to push the envelope and and capitalize on this.
01:33:52.000Giovanni says, Hi Nick, love your show.
01:33:55.000Question, do you support inflation as a tool for the state?
01:33:58.000Libertarians argue Fed policies since 1914 compelled women into the workforce by increasing the cost of living.
01:34:07.000Well, I mean, I don't know if that's exactly true because women didn't start to get into the workforce in large numbers until World War II and then shortly after World War II.
01:36:47.000I think that tells you everything you need to know about Charlie Kirk.
01:36:50.000You know, and I got, and the contrast couldn't be more stark between me, who did a show for you, for the Groypers, you know, for America first, for the people, and that's always what it was, and I was never accepted in these circles, versus Charlie Kirk, who when he was 18, got to Foster Freeze and asked them for money.
01:37:32.000Okay, a little bit inappropriate, but I mean, yeah, it is worth reminding.
01:37:36.000It's worth reminding people about this.
01:37:39.000Spadesguy says, USS Liberty Veterans Association put out a letter admonishing Charley for calling the attack they survived a conspiracy theory.
01:38:43.000I do disavow sodomy, and I disavow people that engage in sodomy, which would be sodomites, and the Big Ten movement has to include everybody.
01:38:52.000You know, this is a political struggle, not a theological struggle.
01:38:56.000And in a sense, I don't want them to come off the wrong way.
01:38:59.000I don't want them to come across like Charlie Kirk said, this is not a theocracy.
01:39:02.000But you have to understand that when it comes down to what we're trying to do to the country, it's going to require a lot of people and a lot of support.
01:39:10.000And so at this stage in the game to tell people, you know, you can't be in the movement, you can't support the movement, whatever, because of this, I would say that that's the wrong mindset.
01:39:20.000We are asking for a seat at the table.
01:39:22.000And we will never, we will never accept homosexuality.
01:39:25.000We will never accept sexual deviancy and the promotion of drag queens and all of this.
01:39:30.000We will never do that as our movement.
01:39:33.000But that said, we are a faction in a Big Tent movement.
01:39:38.000And I would be very wary about starting to draw these lines.
01:39:40.000I'd be very wary about starting to draw these lines in the sand about who we can and cannot associate with, like Turning Point.
01:39:47.000You know, we can draw a line in the sand and say, this is what we are about.
01:39:51.000And we could say that our America First, Groyper movement says, we disavow sodomy and we disavow degeneracy.
01:39:57.000But the whole point of the Big Tent movement is many factions inside one movement.
01:40:01.000You know, what's the next line we're going to draw?
01:40:02.000We're going to say that, well, if you're not Catholic, you can't be in the movement because the Catholic Church is the true church.
01:40:08.000Or if you're not, you know, if you're not completely down with being against women's liberation, you know, or if you're not completely down with being a socialist, or you're not completely down with being a free market guy, you know, once you start to draw these lines, people like you, what you're doing, and I'm not suggesting
01:40:24.000I don't want to suggest that you yourself are trying to do this, but this sort of line of questioning, it does represent, I think, a very wrong way to go about this, you know?
01:40:34.000As long as people like us get on the inside of the tent, as long as people like us get at the table and get a part of the conversation, I think that is what we're going for at this point.
01:40:45.000And then we can play for the whole table.
01:40:47.000But at this point, I think it's really more a question of expanding, growing the rank, spreading the message than it is about saying,
01:40:57.000That's not to say that we, that's not to say that our movement accepts that.
01:41:00.000That's not to say that our movement is promoting it or endorsing it or anything like that.
01:41:04.000But it is to say that we're engaged in this struggle and, you know, people that are quick to start drawing these battle lines of get out, you know, you don't meet the requirement, whatever.
01:41:14.000You know, we're crashing the big tent.
01:42:18.000Because the Google eliminates all... For whatever reason, it's so awesome.
01:42:23.000If you look up certain people on Google that are YouTubers, it won't show you their YouTube channel.
01:42:27.000Like, if you Google me, because Google controls YouTube, they take these people that they don't want you to find out about, they take their YouTube channel, they scrub it from the search results.
01:42:42.000Mandar, I just read that, Deep Spring says, I wonder if Charlie Kirk would be so devoted to Israel if the Mossad leaked his lewd photos he has sent to women.
01:49:19.000Zach says, I guess all the der nick is late der der posters and chat is a small price to pay to give momentum to the movement and grow the knicker nation.
01:49:41.000It's Steven Crowder we're talking about, right?
01:49:46.000says that's the time you must keep on trying smile what's the use of crying you'll find that life is still worthwhile if you just smile what is that from that sounds so familiar is that from the joker or is that from that sounds like that uh smile song and joker but i can't can't quite place it right now kez says is there a link to the do not hire list no it's not a public list but i've been told that one exists
01:50:52.000But I would say to let up on Cathy a little bit.
01:50:54.000She was defending me the other day on Twitter, and that's very admirable, I have to say.
01:50:59.000It does take a lot of guts to do that, I'm a bit surprised.
01:51:01.000You know, because I met Cathy Xu, and my first impression of her was, she's this vapid-y girl, she's a libertarian, you know, she's just like all the rest.
01:51:10.000You're just like the rest of them, you know?
01:51:12.000But I met her, and she was nice enough in person.
01:51:14.000We had a good conversation and everything.
01:51:17.000She unblocked me, which was nice, and we followed each other.
01:51:19.000And after that one encounter, she has been basically sticking up for me, and not necessarily agreeing with me on everything.
01:51:26.000I don't know if she... We obviously disagree on a lot.
01:51:29.000She is kind of a libertarian, leaning person.
01:51:33.000But you know she's been one of the only people and I can count on like two hands maybe how many people with a significant following are you know being sympathetic to us and sharing our content and she's been out there saying you know what Nick has a right to ask his questions and so on and I admire that and it's just like I said yesterday with Elijah Schaffer.
01:51:52.000The people that are going to tolerate us, the people that are going to allow us to have a seat at the table, have to reward them.
01:54:33.000Rick Smith says, uh, what are the top five non-fiction political books that a totalitarian leftist regime would ban immediately after assuming power if you were to guess?
01:54:44.000Oh, I don't, what kind of question is this?
01:57:36.000As Christian, as a Christian conservative, do you feel comfortable with Ben Shapiro saying that Jesus was a rebellious rabbi that had it coming?
01:57:44.000Yeah, I think somebody had a virtually identical super chat yesterday, but yeah, that's a good question.
02:00:17.000But I need to I need some sort of a consensus from the live chat before we before I abandon and I promise I'll get to the super chats because I see a lot of high numbers and everything but This is one of the moments right people are saying yes.
02:05:04.000Uh, Gigabyte says, since Kirk says he's not going to debate trolls, someone needs to ask him if he is willing to talk to actual USS Liberty survivors.
02:06:03.000You think you're gonna be able to trick-or-treat when there's drug gangs and crime and people don't even speak English?
02:06:08.000You think all these people are coming over here and they're preparing their house with decorations and buying candy and buying nice costumes?
02:06:33.000Well, I don't know Dave Demo, but yeah, Razorfist is pretty retarded.
02:06:37.000Inner-city Democrats' wignats are flooding to you.
02:06:40.000Need to chastise them at every turn, every super chat, until they learn.
02:06:44.000I don't know if I feel the need to chastise them so much as, you know, look, you have seen that strategy works and now you just have to embrace it.
02:06:53.000You know, we can't have any wignattery in here.
02:06:55.000You just have to understand that what I've been saying is now working.
02:06:59.000I don't need you to, you know, come to me on your knees and say, I'm so sorry.
02:08:22.000I mean, I don't really care about him, right?
02:08:24.000You nailed it at the start of the show.
02:08:26.000Confronting them is to make people look into the relevant facts, not make us look like autistic retards.
02:08:46.000is again to get people asking the question.
02:08:49.000To get people asking the question that Jesse Lee Peterson asked, which is, if conservatives are going to abandon Christianity, what makes them any different than the godless Democrats?
02:08:59.000Get Michelle Malkin to say, you know, what is it?
02:09:02.000Stapling green cards is a recipe for American companies outsourcing jobs and stabbing college grads and post grads in the back.
02:09:10.000Where's the benefit to the conservative audiences Charlie Kirk entertains on the lecture circuit when he talks about
02:09:17.000These are the questions we want people to ask.
02:09:19.000We want people to start an inquiry into what our conservative movement has become.
02:09:25.000Not to, uh, you know, lump in these people with honest questions with people that are unoptical, that would, uh, you know, be a liability, that would create baggage.
02:10:23.000There's much more risk involved in that, you know, if you go overseas and everything.
02:10:27.000But, you know, let's stop pretending like that's a pass, that it excuses everything you've ever said and done.
02:10:33.000You know, Dan Crenshaw's still a neocon.
02:10:34.000It doesn't matter that he served in Iraq, in that sense.
02:10:38.000I mean, maybe that means he's courageous in a certain capacity and willing to sacrifice, but that doesn't mean that he's not completely wrong and an actually anti-American when he advocates for endless wars.
02:10:49.000And I'm tired of hearing that that's the case.
02:10:51.000He wore the uniform and, you know, police officers and veterans and this and this and all the rest, right?
02:10:56.000How about everybody is entitled to their opinion and, you know, that's just what it is?
02:12:37.000Jalapeno says, I wonder how many leftist tears tumblers have shattered on the ground after their owners googled dancing Israelis or USS Liberty in the past week.
02:13:21.000And good optics does not mean that we compromise on our beliefs.
02:13:23.000It simply means that we have our beliefs, but we state them in a way that is persuasive and present them in such a matter that it's palatable to people.
02:13:30.000You know, people have for years have said,
02:14:20.000And people want to go out there and say, no, we have to defend the most offensive, the most, you know, what would you call, the most alienating presentation possible.
02:14:55.000Everybody who's watching this, try to join Turning Point USA.
02:14:58.000Start a chapter, join up, but if you do, make sure that your public Twitter account is not following me or Scott Greer, anybody like that.
02:15:06.000Have your private account, have your public account.
02:15:10.000You know, you do have to conceal if you're going to join Turning Point.
02:15:13.000We don't conceal on the show, but if you're going to try and infiltrate Turning Point, you do want to conceal.
02:15:18.000So, because they, that's what it said, they're cross-checking with who people follow on social media.
02:15:22.000So if you do decide to join Turning Point, you're not going to get very far if you have a public account with your face and everything that's following me.
02:15:30.000So have a Groyper account, you know, have a secret account that they don't know about, or you can follow me there.
02:15:36.000Let's see John says what white guy or that white guy who interviewed Kanye was a sad retard I don't know which one you're talking about the one for BBC or the one for Apple music I mean because I didn't watch that one all the way through
02:15:50.000Jesse Lee Peterson says Charlie Kirk is a beta who needs to forgive his mother and return to his father.
02:15:56.000Keep exposing the children of the lion.
02:16:07.000I have to say Jesse Lee Peterson is the master of optics.
02:16:12.000I mean this guy, what he gets away with and then what's incredible is he just says it straight up.
02:16:17.000Yeah, you know, I don't believe homosexuals can be Christians.
02:16:20.000And, you know, he said, uh, you should have seen he had a conversation over the weekend at Politicon with some, like, 2005-tier fedora-tipping atheist.
02:16:30.000And, you know, Jesse Lee Peterson was just giving this guy the blues about IQ and blacks and everything else, and it was just incredible.
02:16:38.000So, you know, Jesse Lee Peterson is absolutely a top lad, A-plus guy.
02:16:44.000And courageous too, and he stands for all the right principles.
02:16:50.000If that's him, God bless and much appreciated.
02:16:53.000Let's see, we've got Whitey McGee who says, I have a feeling Turning Point will put bad actors in the Q&A in order to discredit us for the cameras.
02:17:30.000What this is about, and the only thing our Groypers are going to be doing, is asking good questions.
02:17:36.000Questions that are thoughtful, that are America First, that are in line with what Trump said about immigration, about Christian moral values, about allegiance to America above all else.
02:18:26.000You know, if there is a questioner that asks about something weird or fringe or whatever, if we have somebody that's dressed funny, if there's any kind of vandalism or graffiti or disruption, we disavow that.
02:19:03.000What we are about is asking questions like, you know, like Jaden McNeil said in a statement, like Michelle Malkin wrote in her article, like Jesse Lee Peterson tweeted today.
02:19:43.000I don't know if this guy is schizophrenic or what, but let's see.
02:19:46.000A ghost says, Nick, law student here, was starting to think that I was the only sane person left in the country who wasn't a neat or a streamer.
02:19:55.000The emergence of optical student groper is unbelievably encouraging.
02:20:23.000Then a social proof says this is something that is, you know, going around and I can join into this.
02:20:29.000It's something normal and you'll have a lot more people join with the social proof, you know, after this college tour and, you know, normal people are stepping up.
02:20:38.000So that's exactly what we want to hear.
02:23:11.000So you know why is conservative inc pro big business and they're uh you know they're consistent with big businesses interests because they're being funded by big business of course mh is interesting seeing which kids take two candies oh yeah really makes you think doesn't it i saw my in my house we had the bowl of candy and i'm looking at the candy and it gets smaller every year you know they have like the normal size candy bar previously they would have the snack size right where you get one Reese's cup
02:23:40.000Or you get a little chocolate bar or, you know, a little KitKat.
02:23:43.000It has two strips instead of the four.
02:23:46.000And I'm looking at the candy bowl this year and it's like one square from a Hershey's chocolate bar.
02:23:51.000It's like a mini, one mini Reese's cup.
02:23:53.000And it's one, uh, you know, one little KitKat bar, you know.
02:23:59.000And I'm just thinking, this is horrible.
02:24:22.000And she's going to give out all, she's forcing the kids to take Whoppers and Milk Duds because we don't want to eat the $10 and be stuck with them ourselves?
02:26:38.000I'm out here virtually every night I get a question about Protestantism or Catholicism and I'm out here on the front lines defending Catholicism and I get people that are anonymous or they don't have a following.
02:27:33.000I could very easily say I'm a Christian and I don't like this Pope and so on, but I'm not.
02:27:38.000I could very easily do that if that was a fake thing.
02:27:44.000It's incredible to me, people that don't know anything about me, people that don't know anything about who I am or what I'm about, you don't believe in God.
02:27:51.000It's a very unchristian thing to question somebody's faith.
02:27:54.000Uh, so I will say, no, I'm not a cultural Christian.
02:28:26.000Because I was raised Catholic, of course, confirmed.
02:28:29.000And, you know, I wasn't really on board with it.
02:28:32.000Not like I was against it, but it wasn't as important in my worldview, maybe when I was in school, like when I was in high school and when I was younger.
02:29:05.000Joe Biden had just given a speech about how we were going to retaliate against Russia because of a cyber attack and the DEF CON level got raised.
02:29:57.000Aquinas and Aristotle, the Aristotelian argument about teleology, you know, that you must have a fifth cause, a directedness, the universe, our lives, our souls must be directed towards something.
02:30:09.000And I looked around and I said, you know, life is sleeping and eating and sleeping and eating.
02:30:12.000And that's how I was in college, staying up all night and trying to eat three meals a day.
02:30:16.000And I said, it's got to be something more.
02:30:18.000So, so I mean, that's, that's a pretty brief, I don't know if that's a very systematic way of explaining how I arrived there.
02:30:24.000But yeah, I really reject a lot of this
02:30:27.000Oh, you know, of course, we're having such a great week and we have to have the haters.
02:30:56.000It's so funny, when people see me, they like give me cash sometimes, and I'm like, please, it's okay, like, we just saw each other, can't it just be... But he insisted, so I'm like, alright.
02:31:05.000I didn't have to insist that much, he was like, here, take this.
02:31:58.000On the one hand, we want people to be self-sufficient in general, but this idea that everybody's going to be like a politico, everybody must be self-sufficient, everybody's going to have a life of activism, you know, I disagree with that.
02:32:11.000I think the movement is going to be comprised of people that are content creators and activists and...
02:32:16.000You know, we're gonna have people that are just participants, you know, that are not, like, card-carrying members, but they're just out there.
02:32:22.000They have normal lives, normal jobs, and so on.
02:32:24.000That's not to say... I'm not saying you shouldn't be financially independent.
02:32:27.000Everybody wants that to happen, but, you know, this... We need GROYPERS to be financially independent so that they can infiltrate local... I mean, it would be nice if we had some people that could do that, but, I mean, that's not gonna be everybody, of course.
02:32:38.000So sure, some people should start getting ready for that, but ideally we want a movement where we can support our own people, you know, that we can have people that are in jobs and retain normal jobs having these positions.
02:32:49.000You know, that's the ideal place we want to get to, but the way this is phrased is just like, you know, remember, I mean, we are, a lot of these people are just normal people that just go to ask a question and that's okay.
02:32:59.000Optics overload says went on poll today to celebrate and was disappointed to see the shills out in full force We must push on we have the zeitgeist in our grasp Yeah, I've been on poll the past couple of days just to see what's being said there
02:33:14.000It's always like, people are shilling for me, and then there's people shilling against me, and then there are people who are saying, go away Nick.
02:33:54.000I have a big enough audience on my Telegram, on my Twitter.
02:33:58.000Everybody knows 4chan is just like Zionist and JIDF and shills and, you know, it's just like this big advertisement thing now where, you know, ever since the Q thing took over, now it's just like, it's like billboards, right?
02:37:09.000I think the staffing in the White House is bad, and that's certainly his fault, so maybe indirectly he has brought this on himself, but I think this is not really the right message for right now.
02:37:19.000We are trying to take Trump's message and co-opt that in order to reveal the hypocrisy of Turning Point, so it's not really a good week to be on Trump.
02:38:50.000kirk kirk i don't know i don't know i could manipulate that joe the boomer says nick do you remember after we watched joker together at the condo i said something is changing something is the air and you were like yeah i sensed it i do remember that i do remember that's right
02:39:06.000Yeah, no, you're not wrong about that.
02:42:41.000I mean, people have come to me with that.
02:43:03.000on the one hand it's like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say it's a bad idea but the people that try to make lightning strike twice it's like we need something like fresh you know so i look i wish you luck i hope it works out i hope uh you know it catches on and people are talking about it if it's an annual thing that'd be pretty cool but
02:44:50.000I do this for... we've been getting a lot of huge donations.
02:44:53.000I want to make sure I can send out a proper thank you.
02:44:55.000At some points, I've been pretty busy this past couple days, but maybe over the weekend I can grind out, answer all my emails, but be sure to send me an email so I can give you a proper thank you.
02:45:30.000urban moving system says i freed a thousand cuckservatives i could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were neocon slaves says nick flint is 2019 exactly exactly right and i see it i see it in alex sears he is like the perfect example of
02:45:46.000A white man, a Christian, but he's a slave, and he doesn't even know it.
02:45:51.000And in some way, I don't even feel as much animosity.
02:45:54.000I mean, I do a little bit, like Jared Holt, Alex Sears.
02:45:58.000Obviously I feel animosity because I am a man, and when people attack me and people are little bitches about this kind of thing, you know, I mean, this guy's like the biggest faggot.
02:46:07.000Alec and Jared and all these characters.
02:46:09.000So I have a little bit of contempt for, you know, just how low they are, just the...
02:47:16.000Foreign people to a bad ideology that's harmful to them and their progeny and you feel bad for them I I look forward to the day when Alex Sears will put down his arms and join us I look forward to the day if it's possible and Jared Holt flips.
02:47:30.000I don't know if that's possible I'm not naive enough to think that that's gonna happen on a mass scale But you know I do think about my actions in terms of that you know that there is a scenario where we have to be
02:47:41.000Not open-armed such that we could get betrayed or stabbed in the back or deceived, but in the sense that at the end of the day, what we're advocating for is something that's good for Alex Sears and Jared Holt.
02:47:53.000They stand to gain from what we're talking about.
02:47:55.000The things that they're advocating for will turn them into slaves, turn them into, you know, these people that are part of this
02:48:01.000Lower substratum in society, eating bugs, castrated and all the rest.
02:48:06.000Maybe they're hoping that if they shill enough, if they're good enough house slaves, that they'll be brought up in the political class and they can roll with all the higher players.
02:48:16.000I don't know if that's what they have in mind, but I do think about it in that way.
02:48:20.000I don't think of it just as petty beef, these people with no clout, these people that are ants compared to us, compared to what we're doing, what I'm doing.
02:48:28.000But, uh, but I also think in those terms.
02:50:41.000And if you don't want that, then, you know, you're not serving the movement, right?
02:50:45.000But they, they want to be told, and I'm not saying this, I'm not picking on you, but I know a lot of women ask this question and they want to be told, here, here girl, you go, you go girl, you could be an e-celebrity, tell us your Twitter account, tell us your at, and you could be famous and make it, and it's like, no, we need more soldiers, we need more groybers to join our ranks, and it starts in the womb, baby, it starts with a ring.
02:51:09.000So that's, that's what I have to say about that.
02:51:12.000Kevkowski says Christians confess vows to raise a family in front of community.
02:51:17.000Conservatives say what happens in the bedroom is not my business thoughts.
02:55:53.000Well, yeah, I saw he screened out like 60 of our guys.
02:55:56.000It's pretty funny that we're just making these people real.
02:55:59.000Pedro says, hey Nick, since you're getting all this attention from e-girls, maybe white genocide isn't so bad if it comes from hot POC women obsessing over whitey?
02:56:08.000No, uh, gonna be a big disavow for me on that one.
02:56:12.000George says, I checked it out what Owen was saying.
02:56:14.000Turns out he is saying his tough love is what made you what you are today.
02:57:28.000But I've been told this from a lot of people familiar with this situation, that the more we make it about Israel, this strengthens Turning Point's hand in the eyes of their donors.
02:57:38.000The more we ask about them being against Christianity and Christian social teaching,
02:57:42.000The more that that's going to really hurt them with the donors in the pocketbook.
02:57:45.000So, do with that information what you will.
02:57:48.000I'm not saying, you know, don't ask about Israel at all, but you just keep that in mind.
02:57:52.000We have sort of a strategic, you know, we have different strategies, different tactics that are happening, and the social stuff is really hurting them with the donors.
02:58:01.000With the Israel stuff, we have to keep it really, really focused, really tight.
02:58:05.000Because you get people doing this Goy stuff, and you know, all that silly Wignatt talk, and that's going to get us into trouble.
02:58:12.000I'm not saying shut down Israel stuff.
02:59:20.000How do we know if we are given a revelation from God?
02:59:22.000I don't know, I think there's like an intuition about it.
02:59:24.000I've never, I've never personally had like, I've never had, I have said this before, I've never had like a divine religious intervention where, you know, God's spoken to me.
02:59:34.000But I do feel a religious inspiration sometimes.
02:59:37.000I can't say that it's... I can't say with certainty that it's God, but, you know, I just feel like I've been directed in such a way with intuition and just other things, where it just always seems to work out.
02:59:48.000I feel like that must be, I don't know, maybe that's confirmation bias, but that's always how I've thought about it.
02:59:54.000But I've never had a moment where, you know, God spoke to me directly, so I can't tell you.
02:59:59.000Numbers says, Kanye made edits to Jesus is King Today.
03:01:43.000I'm not saying that as a flex, I'm just trying to step into my shoes a little bit
03:01:58.000And understand what it's like, you know, not only having a big following, but also being as controversial I am.
03:02:04.000What I'm getting from the left, what I'm getting from the establishment right, what I'm getting from Wignats, what I'm getting from... I mean, I'm getting hit from all angles every day.
03:02:10.000And I don't mean to say that as well as me, but just for my mental health and also for the sake of my Twitter account, I have to manage it in a certain way.
03:02:19.000So I understand a lot of people don't don't get that.
03:02:25.000But I'm just asking, you know, if you're if you're legitimately asking why I'm so hair trigger with the block, you got to step into my shoes and realize I refresh my phone.
03:02:47.000So I just have to do that for my own sake just to manage it and then also because you know It's just like with Charlie Kirk, you know if he can say You know, this is my event and whatever.
03:02:57.000Well, then it's my it's my Twitter Why would I if people just have a Twitter account to antagonize me and talk shit about me and whatever Why do I have to see that on my timeline, you know, so
03:05:57.000Erica says, when you say that gays can't be conservative or Christian, do you mean only those who act on it at all or those who have gay feelings?
03:06:40.000But, um, but yeah, I mean definitely if you're acting on it.
03:06:43.000I think that's what Jessilee Peterson means is if you're actively living a gay lifestyle, if you're actively self-identifying as gay, I think that's really more to the point.
03:06:51.000You can probably count on one hand how many people that have that but are not acting on it, right?
03:06:56.000You look at what goes on in those communities, it's like, yeah, I don't see a whole lot of restraints, right?
03:07:00.000I don't think they're known for their restraints.
03:07:03.000David says, I'm betting the Knicker told you to ask me about the USS Liberty.
03:07:46.000Very important Samuel says the next Murdoch Murdoch will probably be about Hillary Clinton and what is it spirit cooking I scrolled down too far there yeah yeah I don't know I don't really watch Murdoch Murdoch so I can't speak to the direction of their content John Smith says can you please ask the gropers to mention that Australia is your greatest ally and not Israel yeah sure that'd be kind of funny to throw in there sure
03:09:20.000And then in the beginning of last year all of a sudden he just starts attacking me saying I'm a loser and whatever and then he goes on the stream last night that people sent me a few clips and they're like he says on the stream oh Nick attacks people for no reason he's the king of that I I don't think he wants to it's like bro this guy attacks me for no reason he instigated every single time
03:09:42.000Anyway, why do we even want to make amends at this point?
03:09:44.000It's not just because he started it and whatever, and he's done it so many times, but why would we want someone like that in the movement?
03:09:51.000When things are going good, we're gonna bring in the black cat?
03:09:53.000We're gonna bring in somebody that drove everybody to the ground and is fucking an idiot and an alcoholic?
03:10:30.000says uh why you no answer my email yet big guy not like you've been busy becoming who you are or anything like that don't make me flex on your super chatters again with another fiver i will get to the i don't know if this is a joke either way it's you know mildly irritating but thanks for the big super chats i will get to all the emails this weekend we've had a lot going on this week maybe it's hard to believe
03:10:53.000As Wade says, so many of us, or so many, just outed themselves as fake conservatives.
03:11:08.000We hardly need to do much work at all.
03:11:11.000Nicholas J56% says, it was a genuine question, no offense, keep it up.
03:11:16.000Okay, well I can't tell because I get a lot of, I get a lot of people that give me a dig with that and it's,
03:11:21.000It's very triggering to me because people don't know everything about my personal life and they don't know about like you know what's going on in my life on the day-to-day or my relationship with God or anything like that and for people to like and especially Catholics it's like I'm fighting for Catholicism I'm fighting for Jesus Christ I'm fighting for the church I'm out there defending it and for people that are frankly not doing that for people that are behind anonymous obvies and that's not a dig at anonymous people but I mean you understand
03:11:52.000And for them to, you know, to be attacking me from the rear, that sounds kind of bad, you know, for them to be taking shots at me, they're supposed to be my allies.
03:12:09.000If that was not your intention, then if I hit you too hard, if it was a little bit too much heat for you, then
03:12:15.000My mistake, but you can understand where I'm coming from.
03:12:17.000It just really bothers me because it's like, you know, we're out there.
03:12:20.000I mean, we're really trying to do the right thing and there's a lot of sacrifices involved in that.
03:12:25.000And, uh, you know, to get people that don't know anything about you, don't know anything about what you do, what your life looks like, to be, you know, the peanut gallery, you know, throwing shit at you.
03:12:35.000Especially Catholics, makes me so mad.
03:12:37.000Uh, Yamato says, Liberty Prime from Fallout.
03:13:50.000A mutual friend turned him on to my content and, you know, he just started telling the truth.
03:13:54.000And I really just respect people that just tell the truth.
03:13:58.000I respect people that even if they're not gonna buy into our ideology, buy into the show, whatever, but at the very least they will, you know, be themselves, say what's on their minds, and be really independent.
03:14:31.000Are there any previous episodes where you discuss it?
03:14:34.000Well, I've had to private a lot of my shows because people are trying to get me banned this week, but I'm in favor of the Second Amendment.
03:14:40.000I'm like a Second Amendment absolutist.
03:14:42.000You know, people say, I'm a First Amendment absolutist.
03:16:13.000JD says the USS Liberty was a Gulf of Tonkin style false flag that Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara wanted to use as an excuse to nuke Cairo for Israel.
03:16:27.000I think false flag is one of them, but I think we can all agree it was deliberate.
03:16:31.000I think that's the most important thing is that it was deliberate.
03:16:34.000You know a lot of other things there's evidence for some theories or other theories But the most important thing that we all agree on is that Israel deliberately attacked us Redbeard says be wise as snakes, but innocent as doves as terms of questions for the movement.
03:18:12.000Nationalist says, sadly I couldn't get in the event because they ran out of room, but I did get the chance to meet other droopers and it was awesome.
03:19:56.000And our last super chat Nat says reciprocity and hierarchy of pack versus equality of the herd the great fright renewed There's only one law of universal morality and that is a law of reciprocity.
03:20:59.000Like four three-hour shows in a row this week, so we'll see, but it's dlive.tv slash NickJFuentes for all my other streams, t.me slash NickJFuentes1 on my telegram for updates, news, most of my content is on there.
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