00:04:18.000It probably won't be like that, but I sort of do want the aesthetic of being alone.
00:04:25.000Like a single party hat, one serving birthday cake with a candle in it.
00:04:32.000And then it's kind of funny because in those pictures, I usually see the grandma, but I love my grandma, so that would actually be a kick ass birthday.
00:04:40.000If I were spending it with my grandma as opposed to my buffoon friends or whoever, I would actually prefer that.
00:04:46.000But, you know, in the sad birthday, the typical picture, it's like an extended family relative who's like lighting the candle, dimly lit.
00:04:58.000I kind of want that aesthetic, and that's, you know, basically what it'll be like.
00:06:52.000Glad to know that they are, you know, Generation Z pretty based.
00:06:57.000I talk to some Generation Z, I get a little disappointed.
00:07:00.000I talk to other Generation Z, it's very white pilling.
00:07:04.000I think it's really just more so the conservatives that are, because most of them are like the worst shitlibs, but the ones that are right wing are extremely.
00:08:08.000What I wanted to talk about so, obviously, the big story with the Catholic Church is the whole, especially in Pennsylvania and the abuse scandals in general.
00:08:19.000But actually, what I want to talk about with the church is a different issue that people aren't really talking about, especially among the.
00:08:29.000So I've been talking to some of the women in the church that are around my age.
00:08:35.000And one thing that I've noticed is observationally at the guys in the church and the women that are there is that guys that are participating in the church, for a lack of a better term, are kind of beta.
00:08:50.000And what can we do to bring masculinity to the men of the church, especially younger generations?
00:09:01.000Yeah, I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and I have to say I'm not very optimistic, you know, because I look around today, and increasingly I'm convinced that our problems cannot be solved through reforms.
00:09:14.000You know, I don't agree with Ted Kaczynski on everything, certainly not his methods, but what he believed was that, and this is not to say the content of Kaczynski's ideology or what he thought about nature or anything like that, but what he did say is that his radical agenda, For the world, which was anti technology and anti society.
00:09:37.000He said, Well, the problem with reform is that people tend to take the path of least resistance.
00:09:45.000In other words, if you were to go out there and evangelize and tell people, you know, it would be really good for you if you gave up your technology, it would be really good if we reverted to this primitivist way of life.
00:11:07.000There's something to salvage of the United States or of the country, of our people.
00:11:12.000But I look at many people, definitely over the age of 30, and say, there's not a whole lot to work with there.
00:11:18.000There's not a whole lot of convincing.
00:11:20.000We're not really going to mold these people into the ubermensch.
00:11:23.000And then in the younger generation, I say, even people who are in school now, it's like, what real hope do they have when they've, throughout their development, just been repeatedly paused psychologically, physically?
00:11:36.000I have to say, there might just have to be a great culling.
00:11:42.000A cataclysmic Malthusian event where all these people can't provide for themselves just kind of go away.
00:11:48.000I would say what you can do in your church, and what I think is good for everybody, is not this like political campaign of this abstract going out and telling people.
00:12:00.000But, you know, if you talk to your friends or you're in your church, raise these issues, get that kind of thing going.
00:12:05.000I mean, we all know the basic answers working out, getting the diet right.
00:12:09.000Probably, I think, not masturbating has something to do with it.
00:12:13.000I don't know the science behind it, but they say that that interferes.
00:12:17.000So, as long as you're making sure there's not that kind of like physiological interference and.
00:12:23.000And you have the right habits and that kind of thing, you should be fine.
00:12:25.000But I mean, when people talk about like by and large, like massive communities, there's not a whole lot.
00:12:37.000Like personally, I work out and whatnot and do things like that.
00:12:42.000And obviously, I've read Bronze Age Mindset and all that.
00:12:45.000But yeah, because I'm a millennial, like very late millennial, but still, like, there's a lot of women that are like 25 to 30.
00:12:53.00032 right now that are like not bad looking women in my church area that just aren't married and aren't dating, and it's basically because, um, the men in the church, uh, we ain't, um, basically.
00:13:09.000You base Gen Z millennials that are looking to date late 20s Catholic women, start going to your um adult groups, I guess, because and you know, hit the weights, um.
00:13:46.000I look at things that are happening in the world, and you can't really change what's happening in the world or the way things are, but you can change.
00:13:56.000You can, if you have a good attitude, there's not really much that the world can do to get you down.
00:14:01.000And, you know, we all get kind of depressed, but to have kind of that core, I don't know, I don't like, it's just because it's kind of like beyond attitude, it's more of a dispositional thing.
00:14:13.000To have kind of that just idea that, well, you know, you're still going to fight through, tomorrow's another day, and to have kind of a sense of humor about things, I think that's really all we can hope for at this.
00:14:26.000Point and well, not that it's all we can hope for, but that's probably the best approach at this point as opposed to saying, Well, everything's going to be okay.
00:14:32.000It's like, Well, we'll basically make do with what happens.
00:14:36.000Why don't we bring in somebody named Kyle?
00:14:39.000He sent me a pretty provocative picture in the DMs.
00:15:33.000Like, when it comes to the pedo stuff and they're calling them minor attracted persons or pedosexuals and stuff like that, like a murderous rage, you know?
00:15:46.000Like, I want to do process in Minecraft, hang these people from lampposts.
00:19:52.000Our task, if things don't work out in the political realm, is perhaps just to increase the tension until perhaps there will be a spark, there will be some event, and then we'll be spared from that with some kind of an upheaval, some kind of opportunity.
00:20:08.000And I would never advocate for violence, but.
00:20:11.000Increasingly, it looks like that might be a better alternative than what we're headed towards, right?
00:20:17.000That's why I heard like a siege poster, you know, like the guy that would put a 1488 tattoo on their forehead.
00:20:27.000And the reason, like, I guess like an accelerationist approach is wrong.
00:20:31.000So you look at like South Africa, even there, like the people, some of the South Africans are still like liberals, you know, they still believe in like.
00:20:41.000That we're all the same and everything, and they're literally getting genocided in South Africa.
00:20:46.000So, like, an accelerationist approach, you're right.
00:21:27.000And we should have multiple strategies, multiple contingencies.
00:21:30.000The good thing is that, look, the way that you prepare for that contingency is you just get guns, ammunition, food, water.
00:21:39.000It's not that difficult to prepare for that kind of a scenario.
00:21:43.000So we should be pursuing best case scenarios.
00:21:46.000Like, let's take care of the downside, which is prepare for the worst, but.
00:21:51.000Let's also be out there working towards the.
00:21:54.000And there's a good possibility that we could avert this, that we could right the ship.
00:21:59.000I see a lot of scenarios where we're able to pull back from the brink, where we're able to make it happen.
00:22:04.000So, you know, if it makes you feel better, you get your firearms, you get your ammunition, you prepare for what happens if it gets really bad or if there is a collapse, and then you're set.
00:22:16.000And then, you know, you pursue politics or whatever it is, you start your family.
00:22:20.000It shouldn't change your calculus too much.
00:22:22.000You should really just try and think in terms of.
00:23:22.000If you've ever met me, I spend too much time with people, and then it's like, oh, I need like 72 hours to recharge my batteries, you know?
00:23:30.000And so I'll be out like I was in DC, and it's just so much, you know, you're in the airport, you're in the hotel, you're on the plane, you're in the Uber, you're walking down the street, you hear the conversation.
00:23:43.000And the more exposure you get to people, the more you realize, like, you know, they're not sending their best.
00:23:48.000These people are not going to deliver us the American empire that we want.
00:23:56.000Nobody should get too one way or the other because there's so many variables, and you really just have to look at history.
00:24:06.000Things have gotten a lot worse in a lot of other times, and we've bounced back.
00:24:11.000It's just a matter of perspective, it's just a matter of context.
00:24:15.000You look at Spain, it's very white pilling to me.
00:24:19.000Spain was actually conquered and invaded by Muslims, where all of Europe was almost taken over by Muslims.
00:24:27.000If they didn't hold them, In France and in the south of Italy and in the Balkans, Europe very well could have been Muslim, could have been totally taken over, right?
00:24:36.000And we look at many other periods in our history the plague, world wars, I mean, horrible, horrible things.
00:24:42.000Look at the world wars where all the stock of healthy, able bodied, intelligent young men was just splattered against the ceiling and against the walls, right?
00:24:54.000And well, maybe that's the cause of where we are now.
00:24:57.000But nevertheless, there was some recovery, there was some revival.
00:25:01.000We look at the plague where like a third of all people died.
00:25:05.000And so you just have to, you know, it took time.
00:25:08.000It took a lot of time, but you just have to have that mindset.
00:25:11.000They said that it took, for example, the Roman Empire something like 400 or 500 years to fully recover from immigration from the end of the Latin Roman Empire until the beginning of the Holy Roman Empire under Charlemagne.
00:25:25.000Something like 450 years it took for them to recover from the barbarism, the immigration of the Germanic tribes.
00:25:34.000And hey, we might be looking at a 400 year thing, but is it worth fighting for?
00:31:32.000As long as you're close in age, I think it's okay.
00:31:34.000Like, I think it's even okay if you're not close in age, honestly.
00:31:39.000Close in age, as long as it's, you know, consensual and, like, you're not manipulating them, like, emotionally and, like, using your wiser ways of, uh, Getting what you want.
00:31:51.000As long as you're being tried and true.
00:31:54.000As long as the intentions are good, right?
00:31:56.000Yeah, as long as the intentions are good.
00:31:58.000I got to leave a little window for myself for when I'm 30 and I want to get married to a 19 year old.
00:32:04.000I got to hedge it a little bit and say, because if I come out very strongly right now and say, no, no, you can never, the age difference, because I want to be 32, and be driving around like, hey, what's going on?
00:32:19.000Because then, You know, if you live to be 150, at least you get some good years in there.
00:32:23.000At least you get the full 18 to 35, like, good segment there.
00:32:29.000And, you know, 35 is kind of pushing it, maybe like 18 to 30.
00:32:32.000You know, you get the full breadth of that when you're in your maturity.
00:33:14.000I could say, uh, technically, I'm a year older than a teenager, so yeah, here's the thing is uh, here on America First, you don't have to use excuses, right?
00:33:24.000But it is helpful because people are like, I want to fight you, and they're Grown men, and it's like, well, yeah, but I'm a teenager, so that's a bad look for you, big guy.
00:36:50.000And I was actually, as many of your viewers, and I can imagine even you were really impressed when he actually beat the fuck out of Steven Crowder in his debate, even though he was in enemy territory, if you could say so.
00:37:42.000Like you just said, he was so calm and collected, even though Stephen Crowder was being autistic, as he fairly pointed out, but he was being pushed back a little bit on that point.
00:37:55.000But, yeah, I can imagine it being a bit hard for Joseph in that position because, you know, he is a university student, and I think you know the consequences that can come if, you know, you're out in the wrong way.
00:38:09.000So, but yeah, it would be really nice if you could talk to him again because I really enjoyed that last discussion.
00:45:51.000And, yeah, I just want to say I'm a fairly new listener to the show, but actually found you through your speech at American Renaissance on YouTube, which was great.
00:46:05.000And, you know, I checked out the show from there.
00:46:08.000So, anyway, I just want to compliment you.
00:46:10.000You've got one of the more entertaining.
00:46:13.000Shows, you know, I'm so bored with most of the sort of online conservative pundits.
00:46:19.000You know, if I read one more tweet from somebody like Joe Walsh without rolling my eyes, I'm gonna, you know, these guys that once a week think they're edgy because they tweet something out about the wage gap or, you know, whatever.
00:47:09.000So I just wanted to, I don't know if you saw recently, but I was watching yesterday this recent sort of sit down discussion between Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson.
00:47:19.000Of course, most people know who Jordan Peterson is.
00:47:22.000Douglas Murray, for those who don't know, wrote sort of a famous book, I guess probably a year ago, called The Strange Death of Europe, which, you know, is sort of about the.
00:47:34.000Sort of Islamic migration into Europe and the issues, we all know sort of the issues with that.
00:47:40.000And part of the discussion they came to was about IQ and IQ research.
00:47:49.000And I always, whenever I see intellectuals get into this, and specifically intellectuals on the right, it's almost like they're willing to tell you two plus, you know, they give you the two plus two, but they're not willing to admit it equals four.
00:48:06.000And by that, I mean Jordan Peterson will sit there and he'll say, Well, IQ research is very well documented and it's very valid, and there are racial differences in IQ average.
00:48:22.000And he'll go as far as saying, an IQ is one of the best predictors of sort of success in life, right?
00:48:32.000But then all they'll say after that is, Well, it's all so troubling, and they're not willing to sort of.
00:48:40.000Jump, you know, draw any conclusion as to why things are in the way they are in the world.
00:48:44.000And if you look at, you know, the sort of average IQ distribution of different racial groups, and then you look at sort of average income, let's say, of different racial groups in America, it pretty much is 100% correlative.
00:49:01.000And if you look at crime rates as well.
00:49:05.000So, you know, whereas Asians have, let's say, arguably the highest average IQ, and then it's whites, and then it's Hispanics.
00:49:16.000You look at the that same information in regards to like crime rates or income in America, and it's in the exact same order.
00:49:26.000And, you know, make of that what you will.
00:49:29.000I'm not saying use that as a basis for, you know, proclaiming the ultimate superiority of any given group.
00:49:36.000But, you know, if we can't have an honest discussion about these things, I don't think that there's ever going to be any progress made there.
00:49:45.000You know, it's just being swept under the rug.
00:49:47.000And I don't know if guys like Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray have come to this same conclusion in their head and they're just not willing to admit it or if they're in denial of it.
00:49:57.000And Stefan Molyneux has gotten to this stuff a bit as well.
00:50:01.000And I just want to hear sort of what your take on all that is and what your thoughts are on that.
00:50:08.000Yeah, well, I mean, it's a good question because you're right.
00:50:11.000I mean, they give us all the components, but they don't tell us the only logical conclusion, which is that.
00:50:18.000That kind of defeats this whole egalitarian premise that we can bring over millions of non white people and they could just readily assimilate into a very advanced and sophisticated and developed system of government like democracy or republicanism.
00:50:32.000You know, how could you at once believe that the average IQ, as it's well documented in West Africa, is 65, or that the average IQ in Mexico is 88, or that the average IQ in many of these countries is a standard deviation or two lower than it is in America, and believe that if America is transformed into demographically, Those populations that the quality of life would not change.
00:51:22.000You know, here everybody's trying to find for years, for decades, coming up with how many essays, papers, theories.
00:51:31.000Articles explaining away racial differences in terms of culture or language, or coming up with every excuse in the book for why that is, and ignoring what is right in front of your face.
00:51:48.000Even Jordan Peterson will admit that, you know, like you said, the argument that these tests are somehow racially biased or culturally biased.
00:51:57.000And even Jordan Peterson will admit that that's not true.
00:52:01.000And yet, Another funny thing I find is when I read articles about the average IQ in America and in Europe has declined 10 points in the last 50 years.
00:52:17.000And it's like, well, maybe the importation of tens of millions of people with an average IQ, 10, 20 points lower than what we were accustomed to, say, in the 1950s or 1960s when the country was 80, 90% white.
00:52:36.000You know, maybe that has something to do with it.
00:52:38.000I mean, you know, it's like all these intellectuals dance around this subject and they're all, you know, oh, just so troubled by it and, you know, sort of rubbing their hands.
00:52:48.000But, you know, it's just no one seems to be willing to speak about this honestly.
00:52:54.000And people are willing to speak about bio, and it just comes down to biology, really.
00:52:58.000And people are willing to speak about biology honestly when it has to do with physical characteristics.
00:53:04.000You know, if I say, on average, black people are better basketball players than Chinese people.
00:53:12.000But if you say, you know, when it comes to, you know, if you say black people on average are taller than Chinese people, well, that's just accepted.
00:53:20.000And, you know, physical biology seems to be no problem for people to accept.
00:53:25.000But if, but, but mental biology and any possible difference, it could be a mental biology between, between ethnic groups or, or whatever, people just don't want to accept.
00:53:37.000And, and I, I guess I understand why they, they want to sort of sweep it under the rug.
00:53:43.000But I think at some point we have to be able to speak about this intelligently because if you keep sweeping it under the rug and allow unintelligent people to draw their own conclusions about why these things are and what we should do about them, then I think you come up with some very unfortunate solutions and circumstances that are far worse than if the adults in the room could talk about this and decide what, if anything, we should do about it.
00:54:11.000Well, and that's, I think, the big picture people who think that.
00:54:17.000People who talk about racial IQ differences or race as reality, that we are intrinsically like genocidal or, you know, thinking in terms of ranking races or putting them in a hierarchy, when actually we're the more merciful ones.
00:54:33.000We're the ones that are saying we see what's going to happen down the road, which will be racial conflict, which will be horrible, horrible things down the road, and we would like to prevent that from happening.
00:54:44.000When a Jared Taylor says that we need a divorce, Of black America from white America.
00:54:50.000That's not motivated by the fact, oh, they look different from me, I don't like them.
00:54:53.000It's because he is more prescient than any other intellectual, perhaps more honest, in saying that these things are not going to get better.
00:55:01.000You know, it's not going to take a certain amount of wishful thinking that we could just get rid of these differences, get rid of these historical tensions and racial conflict in human nature.
00:55:11.000The writing is on the wall, it's going to get very bad.
00:55:15.000And he's saying, well, let's find an amicable solution where everyone can be happy and we can prevent that kind of a thing.
00:55:22.000And people want to make it out that that's motivated by something else.
00:55:25.000But, I mean, you're right, it's basically there.
00:55:27.000How could you have a society that works that has a lower IQ?
00:55:32.000And people, well, IQ isn't everything or it's education or it's whatever.
00:55:50.000Imagine if the whole society is comprised of people like that.
00:55:53.000The whole half of the population is that or below.
00:55:56.000Are these people going to be able to put up, A great big civilization where there's voting and there's debate on issues and there's technology.
00:56:47.000And all those studies I've seen about heritability of IQ is, you know, that concludes that IQ is anywhere from sort of 62 up to, I've seen almost 90% heritable, which means that there is a genetic component to it.
00:57:03.000And people who say, well, it's just lack of education or these countries or, You know, whatever.
00:57:12.000You know, if you take into account how heritable it is and how predictive it is of sort of success in life and abilities, a person's ability to succeed.
00:57:26.000And I think that eventually we have to deal with these things in a smart way.
00:57:31.000I don't think, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
00:57:33.000But, you know, and I think Jared Taylor's pointed this out that he would like this problem to be solved too.
00:57:39.000It has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with.
00:57:41.000You know, it creates tension between groups when you have to explain away these differences by blaming another group.
00:57:49.000You know, if we accept that certain groups of people are never, you know, Australian pygmies are never going to achieve the socioeconomic status of, you know, Ashkenazi Jews, you know, if we can accept that and work from there, then I think we're better off than if we say, well, pygmies are never going to achieve the same socioeconomic status of Ashkenazi Jews because.
00:58:16.000The Jews are holding them down or discriminating against them.
00:58:20.000And so we've got to, you know, it just creates tension there where it's nobody's fault.
00:59:27.000All these unfortunate peoples of the world, if just given the right opportunity and the resources and a little bit of luck and love, they can be just as great as anybody else.
00:59:37.000They'll be Bill Gates and Alexander Hamilton and Albert Einstein, but it's not true.
00:59:42.000It would be nice if that were the case.
00:59:44.000It would be nice if the suffering in Africa had a solution.
00:59:48.000I think that's really what it's about at the end of the day.
00:59:50.000We look at the suffering that goes on and the barbarism and these broken societies, and we say, well, we can fix it.
01:00:10.000And like he said about the hereditability of IQ, there's a stronger basis for the hereditability of IQ than there is for homosexuality.
01:00:17.000So for all these shitlibs that say, oh, I'm born this way, it's genetic, blah, blah.
01:00:21.000There is a far stronger case for the hereditability of traits that influence IQ, that influence crime, that influence just about everything else.
01:00:30.000We know that race is real, and that has real implications.
01:00:34.000It's not just real in, you're a different color than me.
01:00:38.000You're the same as me, but you just came in a different color.
01:00:44.000And it's funny because these postmodernists, these egalitarians, will flip flop between race isn't real or race is inconsequential or we don't know how to classify race.
01:00:56.000They will say at once, race isn't real, which is obviously not true.
01:01:00.000If race were not real, then they wouldn't talk about racism.
01:01:04.000They wouldn't talk about race as a salient identity.
01:01:06.000If it was totally a social construct, why would you be able to identify somebody's race based on their teeth, based on their femur, based on other characteristics post mortem?
01:01:43.000And then they'll say, well, you know, it's, well, if there is race, we can't really find what the races are because there's mixed race people.
01:01:53.000And as if to say, like, because there are certain hybrid colors.
01:01:58.000That blue isn't real, that red isn't real.
01:02:00.000Well, because there's purple, blue and red don't exist.
01:02:04.000Or because we can't name all the colors and there's gradients.
01:02:13.000And that's kind of the reality of our time.
01:02:14.000Race is going to be one of the dividing lines of the 21st century, whereas in the last century it was ideology, or rather, like this economic, like whether you're with the Soviet Union or America, and in the century before it was ideology, and the centuries before that it might have been religion or whatever.
01:02:34.000Now it's going to be those tribal differences.
01:02:38.000Are we going to accept that reality and try to make the best of it?
01:02:43.000Or are we going to try and, in a vain attempt to make everything fit into a nice little box, just fail spectacularly?
01:02:52.000You know, it's like it's a tragic thing.
01:02:55.000It's like if you get up to the highest cliff in the city, in the city limits, and you say, I'm going to fly because I should be able to fly, and that's the way it should be, and it's right.
01:03:05.000And if you tell me I can't fly, that's just evil and wrong and pessimistic.
01:03:10.000And, you know, I just don't believe that.
01:03:42.000Even if it does, we'll just forget about it.
01:03:45.000You know, if we all just watch the same television shows.
01:03:48.000And we all drink the same Coca Cola products, we'll be able to forget the fact that we are fundamentally, biologically different in terms of muscle fiber, in terms of brain structure, in terms of countless other things.
01:04:03.000And those disparities that are basically eternal, that will survive generations, we'll just ignore those.
01:04:09.000You know, it's like Lucian when he got on my show.
01:04:11.000And look, I don't want to hit him too hard because he's been very kind to me, stood by me, stood by his appearance on the show, even though he's been attacked for it by his own friends.
01:04:20.000So, you know, he's a really great guy for that.
01:04:21.000But, I mean, you heard it from him himself.
01:04:24.000He said, well, it's okay we bring in low IQ people because they have to do certain jobs.
01:04:29.000Well, I mean, do you understand why that's kind of a more sinister worldview than mine?
01:04:34.000My worldview says that people can rise and fall in their own societies.
01:04:38.000In their own society, where there is a distribution that is lower, they can rise and fall based on merit.
01:04:45.000If they come to a high IQ society, they're a permanent underclass.
01:04:48.000There's no rising, there's just falling.
01:04:56.000Some people think that's virtuous or charitable.
01:04:59.000I mean, if you're in Africa, you're going to be in like a lower IQ society, but you can rise and fall and there can be improvement and it's fair competition.
01:05:08.000But if you're here, you're just going to, you're always going to be.
01:05:12.000And people will tell you, you just got to pick yourselves up by the bootstraps.
01:07:49.000So, you can tell me it's ridiculous to say that these races have these given IQs and then to rank them quantitatively.
01:07:56.000But for you to tell me, I know the degree that the temperature will change in the next 100 years with absolute certainty, and that's why we should have total government control of industry.
01:11:48.000I was wondering, do you believe that the hierarchy is complicit in the things that have been happening, that they've been kind of shielding it?
01:12:00.000And do you believe that the people who have been complicit in this, say the Pope or say the Cardinals, these types of people, if they truly are the representatives of Christ on earth or the vicar of Christ, if they're letting this stuff happen?
01:12:33.000But your question gets to the heart of the matter, which is to say if the Pope purports to be the vicar of Christ on earth and his representative, and if he is complicit, does that call into question the validity and legitimacy of Catholic doctrine, which says that there's been this unbroken apostolic succession?
01:12:51.000Of course, you could say Protestants might be correct.
01:12:54.000You might say the Sede's are correct in saying there's false popes.
01:12:58.000I'm not a theological expert, so it's kind of tough for me to say what the threshold is for me to say that it would invalidate the Pope, but certainly it is troubling.
01:13:07.000I don't doubt that there is some complicity, I think that's the word, because it's been going on for so long.
01:13:32.000Now, we can't know for certain that he was in on it or he was working towards it or why he would cover that up.
01:13:38.000I mean, we also have to look at the church as, and this is why I'm a bit more charitable, because I also look at the church as a geopolitical organization as well.
01:13:54.000But, you know, when you understand that he's got billions of people and to address it in a grand way might shake things up too much, I don't really know.
01:14:03.000Um, What I always go back to, because I mean, look, I hear you.
01:14:11.000And I made that clear the other day that it's when I'm defending the church, I'm not saying that that's not horrible and that that doesn't need to stop.
01:14:18.000But what I always fall back on is it's very difficult for me to reconcile man calling into question a successor to Peter and saying, well, you know what, this, well, because I think this is wrong or whatever, well, this is a false pope.
01:14:33.000Because to me, it's like, where does that end?
01:14:45.000See, my answer to that question, I would fall more under the set of a contest camp.
01:14:49.000And, you know, originally I was kind of swayed away from that because I did see a lot of opinionism, which is very similar to Protestantism.
01:14:55.000You know, nobody who's a Catholic has a right to a private opinion on doctrine.
01:14:58.000You know, nobody, as you said, you know, who's just a layman has any right to be able to call into question the hierarchy, the authority.
01:15:05.000And that's something I firmly believe.
01:15:07.000That being said, what kind of Brought me over more to that camp is, you know, I've been meeting with the bishop who is of a seminary who is more set of a contest.
01:15:17.000And, you know, he was ordinated under the, you know, Norris Ordo church, you know, back right after Vatican II.
01:15:25.000And so talking with him and listening to some things he said, it kind of, what I guess was the thing that made it very concrete to me, whereas no doubt in my mind, I don't believe in the Protestantism, I don't believe in the recognize and resist.
01:15:38.000I think that there's a lot of theological inconsistencies with saying, okay, well, You know, Pope Francis is the Pope, but I disagree with his decrees on this thing because, as you said, if we are laymen, if we are Catholics, we have no right to disagree with them on something.
01:15:52.000It is the decree of the vicar of Christ on earth.
01:16:01.000So, when we say that God is universal or unchanging, the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, then I believe his doctrines would have to be unchanging as well.
01:16:09.000And so, if his doctrines are unchanging, the sort of Internal doctrinal dogmatic revolution that happened under Vatican II, I think, would initiate a departure from the doctrine of Christ if the doctrine of Christ is unchanging.
01:16:23.000When you have a complete reworking of many scriptures, of the liturgy, completely of all of the ordination, a complete rewriting canon law, rewriting the catechism, all of these things changing, I think it would be hard to say that it is the same religion of a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago.
01:16:42.000And in that sense, I would never say, I know who is pope and is not pope, I can elect the pope, nothing like that.
01:16:47.000But I would say it would be very hard for me to say, you know, Paul VI, John XXIII, JP II, Benedict, Francis, that these men are Pope when they promulgate all of these things that seem to be in stark contradiction to the things that are laid out, not just by our Lord Jesus Christ, but by the church and the popes of the past, because there can't be these sort of inconsistencies, if you know what I mean.
01:17:16.000I mean, that's the essence of the Catholic religion is the tradition.
01:17:20.000And as we've seen the tradition stripped away, and it's not just tradition for its own sake, like a perennialism.
01:17:25.000It's like you said, that if God is unchanging, well, then of course his doctrine is unchanging.
01:17:30.000That's the foundation that Christ would protect a pope from erring and changing it in a way that is wrong.
01:17:37.000And when you have such a drastic change under Vatican II, which was only the culmination of a long trend of appeasement of modernism and liberalism and all the rest, it is tough to defend that.
01:17:50.000And, you know, I hope that doesn't sound like a cop out.
01:17:54.000I've heard that, you know, like Vatican II is pastoral.
01:17:57.000That's what classical theist tells me.
01:17:59.000It's not my expertise, but what I typically fall back on is just it's just a very, it's something that can't be taken lightly.
01:18:07.000And I don't know if I'm totally sold one way or the other because I'm certainly convinced by a lot of what the Sede said and the points that you make.
01:18:14.000But to me, it's something that can't be taken lightly because once you start calling into question, well, is he the Pope?
01:18:22.000It's a very dangerous thing because the bedrock of the Catholic religion is the authority.
01:18:28.000Without the unity proceeding from one church, one pope, and one doctrine, once you get into that sede or the other stuff, and look, I'm not saying it's, you know, maybe it's right.
01:18:38.000Like I said, I don't think I'm really qualified to say, but what troubles me, as somebody who came to it from kind of my own thoughts on the matter, once you get away from that idea of the concrete authority, and shame on Pope Francis and even Vatican II ecumenical leaders for calling that into question and jeopardizing that, it's really difficult.
01:18:58.000Because our argument against Protestants is, Well, you can't interpret the Bible.
01:21:08.000That's what gives you hope because you see things that are difficult, you see things that are tough, and then you see two young, innocent, great people coming together against all odds.
01:21:21.000You see what we're up against in so many ways.
01:21:23.000And Simon, personally, where he was involved in Charlottesville.
01:21:27.000And I don't mean that like, I mean to say that the state of the movement was pushing people in the wrong direction.
01:21:33.000Even if people found out things were lies, they were still being pushed in the wrong direction.
01:21:36.000And even against all that, It was all able to come together, and that's a great thing.
01:21:41.000So, if they can do it, if they can do it, then you should feel bad that you can't do it.
01:21:47.000Anybody can do it, and they put the work in, they willed it to happen, and God bless them.
01:24:10.000But hey, you know, I was talking to classical theists today because I was having this big existential crisis.
01:24:16.000I've been watching a lot of stuff about the afterlife.
01:24:20.000I watched Ben Shapiro talk about the afterlife and what he thinks about in the Jewish tradition what happens.
01:24:25.000And he said, like a lot of the Hindu type stuff, that you're reunited with God and it's like a drop of water in the ocean and you lose your individuality, you lose yourself, and you're united with God.
01:24:38.000And I was reading some stuff about DMT experiences, and people said, Well, I was like united with God.
01:25:26.000The great friend, classical theist, the great scholar.
01:25:29.000And I hit him up and I said, like, please reassure me that our religion is right on this.
01:25:33.000Please reassure me that the church knows what they're talking about, that I'm not just going to be like Shinshikari and all souls will become one.
01:25:42.000And he was like, No, no, you're going to be reunited in heaven.
01:26:33.000Like, if I'm reading, thinking about death, like, how could you easily accept that everything in this life will become arbitrary and not valuable and we let go of it when our whole lives revolve around, at least in a materialist world, holding on?
01:26:49.000You know, maybe that's where we go wrong, but it kind of scares me.
01:26:54.000I want, will there be Burger King in heaven?
01:30:10.000People underestimate sex, but it's very powerful.
01:30:13.000And therefore, it should be subject to severe restraints.
01:30:17.000You know, and not, she shouldn't see it as a restraint.
01:30:21.000But what we mean by that is, like, for example, nuclear energy can be a great thing, but there's so many precautions involved because it's powerful.
01:30:29.000But if we harness it in the appropriate way, in the right way, we can use it to great effect.
01:33:07.000But if you're Spencer and it's like, you have virtually no allies Greg Conti, Evan McLean, I mean, like everybody's kind of sidelined you.
01:33:18.000And like one person, you know, you're friendly with and you talk to, like, is that the best idea that you want to be poking the tiger that you would want to instigate?
01:33:29.000And I was called the troublemaker and the, you know, the.
01:33:32.000Right puncher and the infighter, and all that.
01:34:05.000And if you watch his stream, he has a tendency to kind of go on and on.
01:34:10.000But it's good because he knows what he's talking about and it's interesting thoughts and things.
01:34:17.000And so he should really, I think, if I were to advise him, if I were to give him some life advice at the tender age of 20, I would say he should just buckle down, write that book, and solidify the legacy.
01:34:28.000If you write a book, at least then it's like, okay, there's something that will stand the test of time.
01:34:34.000Although I think his philosophy, ironically, might be against that.
01:34:38.000I think he might believe that it's more about action than it is about the writing or the debating.
01:35:04.000Does it make any less sense to have people in power if we have a smaller majority or a minority, right?
01:35:12.000I mean, I don't understand what the argument is.
01:35:14.000If he's trying to say, like, your efforts are futile, Nick, because time is not on our side, In what way does that invalidate the idea of getting more people in power?
01:35:23.000I'm not telling people to have an unrealistic expectation of what's possible.
01:35:27.000I'm saying we're better off as a movement if we had people who are educated, qualified, positions of influence, have resources, are organized, have families.
01:35:59.000So, my message is infiltrate the system, not because we have this grand design for a takeover, but in any scenario, we are better off having people who have resources, who have potential, who have networked, that kind of thing, than if we do not.
01:36:46.000But if we want to build up some capital to weather the storm, whether it goes good or whether it goes badly, I don't see a downside of that.
01:36:56.000People are like, no, Nick, don't encourage people to go to school and get good paying jobs and fly under the radar so that they actually have resources.
01:39:01.000And it might not be like a nakedly bad relationship, it might not be an overtly bad relationship, but definitely there's a dissonance between expectations and reality.
01:40:16.000But I, It's just profoundly sad to me because I am still young.
01:40:20.000And so perhaps I still have that naivete or that, you know, whatever you want to call it, that youthful, cheery eyed kind of thing.
01:40:29.000But it's sad to me when people take what we're saying and they misinterpret it.
01:40:33.000I don't want people, and it's tough because I can't really say that.
01:40:36.000If I tell people I have no hate in my heart for anybody, any group of people, anything like that, you know, I can't go out and say that because people will say, you're cucking, you're saying that to appease the left.
01:40:49.000And the left will easily say, they'll strike that down, a very vulnerable attempt at humanity.
01:42:53.000We think that in the macro sense, it's not a good idea to have different peoples competing for the same resources because it creates friction and lowers social trust.
01:43:04.000But that doesn't mean we can't get along.
01:43:05.000That doesn't mean I don't have respect for their humanity or feel empathy for them.
01:43:10.000I'm a Christian, so in some sense we have that universalist tendency.
01:43:15.000But it's very hard when people take that and they misconstrue it and they warp it and bend it and they make it out like you're this terrible guy because we really do believe we're doing the right thing.
01:43:28.000And you can't really care about what people think, but it would be nice.
01:44:14.000I would take the chance to have that and see if he'd be willing to meet halfway there and not compromise on his ideology, but at least see where we're coming from for the sake of posterity.
01:44:25.000Because a lot of people agree with me.
01:44:27.000And if Jared Holt and his ilk continue along the path where they say they're evil and we have to oppress them, it's only going to radicalize them.
01:44:35.000I used to say this then, and I'll say it now.
01:44:38.000The only institution that's creating Nazis is the establishment.
01:44:43.000Richard Spencer, it's not Jared Taylor, it's not whoever, whatever boogeyman, Dugan or Putin or anybody like that.
01:44:52.000The institution that's creating Nazis is the establishment because they're telling white people who have valid concerns.
01:44:58.000First of all, they're creating these problems, and then white people are like, our lives are bad.
01:50:07.000I hate to admit, I never did before, but as I get older, maybe it's because things aren't going well in the world that I watch the news and then I'm like, maybe I'll have a chocolate bar again.
01:52:11.000I don't really want to get into it totally, you know, because we're kind of approaching two hours here.
01:52:16.000So don't really want to get into the whole reciprocal relationship between culture and the state and possibly genetics and biography or rather geography.
01:52:25.000But I will say that the state definitely does play a role.
01:52:28.000That's not, you know, people take that as like a given because Milo said it a lot.
01:53:01.000What would have happened if Joseph McCarthy rooted out all the communists in Hollywood?
01:53:05.000Remember how they said, oh, McCarthyism was a witch hunt and there wasn't?
01:53:10.000Basically, everything he said was true.
01:53:12.000There was significant communist infiltration, a lot of it Jewish, in Hollywood, in government, all over the place.
01:53:19.000What would have happened if the House on Un American Activities Committee or whatever, what would have happened if they rooted out all these communists in culture making institutions, in government?
01:53:30.000Do you think Hollywood would have been a little bit different?
01:53:32.000Do you think life today would have been a little bit different if we didn't have that cultural Marxist subversion of our institutions?
01:53:39.000What would have happened if that governmental policy had just been carried out?
01:53:55.000The CIA funded modern art, the CIA funded all kinds of things like that.
01:54:00.000And how much of where we are today is a result of bad government policy, or if not the state, certainly governing conspiratorial powers, transnational elites, you know?
01:54:12.000So it's more complicated than they make it out.
01:54:37.000Yaki said, because Spangler wrote Decline of the West, parts one and two.
01:54:41.000And then Yaki said that he wrote the sequel to that.
01:54:43.000He was influenced by that, and so that's technically the sequel to Decline of the West, even though it's by a different author, is Imperium by Francis Parker Yaki.
01:56:25.000Anthony says, How do you respond to the argument that people in the 20s feared wasps becoming a minority with all the Irish, Italian, Polish immigration, et cetera?
01:56:33.000So it's irrational to fear demographic change now.
01:56:35.000Well, it's very different in many ways.
01:56:38.000First argument is that immigration was different.
01:56:41.000Okay, you could make the argument that since 1965, immigration has six characteristics which are different than any other wave of immigration in history.
01:56:52.000And I'm going to try and recall all of them for you.
01:56:54.000It's in Samuel Huntington wrote, Who Are We?
01:57:13.000We're talking about something like 60 million people in 50 years.
01:57:17.000Nothing ever approached that at any other time in history.
01:57:20.000Proportionally speaking, I think more Germans and Irish came in the 1830s and 1840s, but never, and it differs in other ways, which I'll elaborate on.
01:57:30.000So you have the scale of it, you have the concentration of people, they're concentrating into small areas like Los Angeles, areas in Texas, in the American Southwest.
01:57:42.000In previous years, immigrants were scattered across the country.
01:57:47.000Now, you have Mexican immigrants that not only are there unprecedented numbers of them, but they're also concentrated in very particular areas so they can dominate.
01:57:55.000Before, it was like you had some Italians here, some Irish here, some Polish here, and so there was some degree of assimilation.
01:58:01.000Well, now they're concentrated, so it's like this is just all Mexico now, and you see this all over the place.
01:58:07.000There's also that they are contiguous with America as opposed to Europe.
01:58:11.000If you're contiguous with America, which means Mexico borders America, it's easier to come in illegally, and additionally, it's easier to maintain cultural and other ties to your home country.
01:58:20.000If you come from Germany, it's pretty hard to get back to Germany, pretty hard to maintain a close connection with Germans, or at least it was in the 20th century.
01:58:30.000With Mexicans, it's very easy because they're right across the border.
01:58:33.000They're all speaking the same non English language, which is very different than Europeans who came here.
01:58:39.000Europeans came here, and there was, you know, although they were all from Eastern Europe or Southern Europe, it was some were speaking Italian, Polish, whatever.
01:58:46.000Now they're all speaking a single non English language, which is Spanish.
01:59:20.000I think I'm forgetting the last part, but I mean, that's the basic gist of it, in many ways, I guess.
01:59:27.000The last component, I believe, was the difference in the waves, the volume of it, not only in terms of gross numbers, but in terms of the timing of it.
01:59:34.000Whereas in previous years, immigrants were coming over and it was like he had 10 million here and then it stopped for a little while and then he had more and then it stopped.
01:59:43.000We've had uninterrupted increasing immigration for 50 years.
01:59:47.000It started out low and then it just got higher and higher and higher every year and it's an all time high.
01:59:52.000So that's a big component of it as well.
01:59:54.000You also have to look at the fact that we don't have assimilating cultural institutions.
01:59:58.000When South and Eastern European immigrants came here, They were brought into programs, fraternal organizations, civic institutions, public schools where they had to learn English.
02:00:10.000You couldn't get a job, you couldn't go to school if you didn't learn English.
02:00:13.000And if you did, you were forcefully assimilated.
02:00:15.000Now they teach them Spanish until they're like 15 in the school system in many neighborhoods.
02:00:21.000And now that they have that regional concentration, there's no real reason for them to learn English.
02:00:26.000In Miami, you don't have to learn English to get ahead.
02:00:30.000Actually, you have to learn Spanish to get ahead in Miami, and in many cases in LA, in places in Texas.
02:00:36.000And so, what is the culture that they're assimilating into?
02:01:13.000If they're not individually Christian, they come from a Christian civilization that was under the Roman Empire, that was under the Catholic Church.
02:01:22.000People don't think about these things.
02:01:24.000That the economy in Europe shaped its culture, that religion shaped Europe's culture, literature, the phonetic alphabet, things people don't even consider.
02:01:33.000You know, you consider a Chinese person and their alphabet is based on characters.
02:01:54.000Now, that's not to say that, you know, I'm sure some shit lib will say, Nick says that if you use chopsticks, you can't learn how to use a fork.
02:02:16.000Now, again, that's a minor detail, but things like that, which we don't even consider, shape how a civilization works, how it functions, how it thinks, its epistemology, that kind of thing.
02:02:29.000You think of Western philosophy versus Eastern philosophy.
02:02:32.000The role of religion in the West versus the role of religion in the East.
02:02:35.000They didn't really even have religion.
02:02:37.000The role of the state in the East versus the West.
02:02:42.000And so people might say, oh, well, Southern Europeans were different than Britons.
02:02:47.000Yeah, well, would anybody make the case that?
02:02:49.000Englishmen are just as different from Europeans, like Italians, as they are with Igbo people in Nigeria, or as they are with Zulu, or with Australoids in Australia?
02:03:28.000I mean, they're a mix between Spanish and native, but they are different in terms of their genetics, their bones, their IQ, all the rest.
02:03:37.000They're different in their culture, they're unassimilable.
02:03:40.000And so, for all those reasons, and people are so fucking dumb.
02:03:45.000You go through like, there's like a dictionary of reasons why that's not true.
02:03:50.000And people will still, to this day, all day long, make that argument.
02:03:55.000Oh, well, Italians weren't considered white and they came in here.
02:04:00.000It's like, yeah, you're a retard if you think it's anything close to what it is now.
02:04:05.000And the book has already been written on this Who Are We by Sam Huntington.
02:04:10.000So if that's a little all over the place, check that out.
02:04:14.000Boom says, What are your thoughts on Napoleon Bonaparte in relation to his views on order in the Catholic Church?
02:04:19.000I'm not familiar with his views on order in the Catholic Church.
02:04:22.000I really did poorly in my European history exam on that unit.
02:04:28.000You know, the French Revolution was just a big, for anybody that took European history in high school, that was the worst unit because it was just like, then it was the National Assembly, then it was the General Assembly, then it was the Directory, then it was, and you can't even keep track of all the different changes every day.
02:04:44.000There's all these different characters, you know, there's the culottes and the Huguenots and the Jacobins, and, you know.
02:05:39.000Yeah, you really, men, it's unfortunate because men are young and things don't look good, but things get better for men than they do for women.
02:06:52.000Now, we still have like feminism and all that, but you're probably better off than you are when you're just some shithead and you're 20 and you're poor, you know, like I am now, whatever.
02:07:02.000So that is, that's what I have to say about that.
02:07:06.000It's something to look forward to in many ways.
02:07:08.000You get a little, you know, you focus on your work.
02:07:18.000Put the grind in, you know, put your ego aside, you know, put your nose down, work a little bit, and you'll be surprised at how good things can get.
02:07:28.000Lauren Rose says, Happy birthday, Nick.
02:07:30.000Spend this on something other than McDonald's, and I'll stop subtweeting you.
02:07:42.000She's the most requested, which is actually high praise because this show is conventionally anti women, or rather, we're pro women.
02:07:50.000Her role mom, but we're anti, like, you know, you know the type.
02:07:55.000But it is a testament to the fact that Lauren Rose, she's one of the good ones, you know, and some of them are good people as well, as Trump says, you know, but that people request her.
02:08:06.000So we can't wait to have you on the show.
02:08:40.000I think it's just very smart that if I'm not getting the proper calories, the caloric intake, if I'm working out, it's like, I'm not getting bigger.
02:08:48.000So I'm putting together this week a diet plan.
02:08:51.000So, how I can get 2,500 calories, 3,000 calories a day.
02:08:55.000The requisite amount of protein and the good stuff.
02:08:58.000And then I'll be in the gym, throwing around the iron.
02:09:03.000That's what I'm scared of because I hate doctors.
02:09:05.000That's really what prevents me from doing a lot of things, is like, well, if this could result in blood work or an invasive operation at any point, like, yeah, probably going to stay away from it, but I'll just be safe, you know.
02:09:18.000Simon Skola says, What's up with that Christian Piccolini guy?
02:10:04.000That's really what I decided at an early age I don't want to go to college, get a career.
02:10:09.000Where I'm under the gun, have to get a paycheck every week, and that.
02:10:13.000I want to, and maybe I'm not the richest guy in the world, but I have an independent income stream, whether that's real estate or the show or other things.
02:10:21.000So I'm focusing on doing the show, making a little bit of money here, saving my money, looking at real estate, looking at getting a degree, you know, getting all my college credits.
02:10:31.000If I don't, and I'm not saying like I'm going to go back to college, but doing the minimal amount necessary to just get all my credits together in an associate's degree.
02:11:19.000And I did live through it, but, you know, you think about it, and it's hard because I can only use my imagination and my knowledge so much to try and approach some kind of reconstruction of what it must have been like and try and feel like that.
02:11:32.000But I think about America in the 70s, Americana, not like disco and that whack stuff, but like going on a road trip in the 70s, you know, and you go out into like, I think California is very 70s, going out on a road trip and you listen to this folk music and.
02:11:49.000You go to like a motel and, and like you can't be reached on the internet.
02:12:03.000And now it's everything seems, you know, I think everybody thinks that grass is always greener.
02:12:09.000But I think about the olden days, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, like small town America.
02:12:15.000And I'm like, wow, what must it have been like?
02:12:18.000We grew up and everything was kind of paused and.
02:12:21.000Soulless watch our culture is like commercials and video games, and their culture was like all these great things like the ice cream truck.
02:12:31.000I had ice cream trucks, but you know what I mean.
02:12:34.000You know, my dad tells me about how on a hot day they would take the fire hydrant apart and they'd spray cars and you know that kind of thing.
02:13:33.000And Sean is, he would be Robert De Niro.
02:13:38.000The working man's, well, actually, surprisingly, be the opposite.
02:13:41.000Because in that movie, it's about a little Italian kid in the 60s, and his father's a bus driver, hardworking guy, Italian American, real neighborhood guy.
02:13:50.000But it's like this coming of age story where does he listen to his father?
02:14:07.000And ironically, I think Sean would actually be the wise guy because Sean does steroids.
02:14:13.000So Sean would be the one saying, you know, pull a trigger and you're a man, that kind of thing.
02:14:18.000Pump it in your veins and you're a man.
02:14:20.000And ironically, Tyr, as non traditional, as pagan as he is, as much as I regret comparing him to Robert De Niro or the character that he played, he would probably be the guy saying, you know, you got to work hard, don't be a bitch, that kind of thing.
02:14:31.000So, hey, but you got to learn from both, I guess.
02:14:35.000And I'm just the youngster caught in between.
02:15:23.000So I don't think that's what we're striving for.
02:15:26.000But the question becomes like, there's a big difference between having immigration, which most countries have, even Japan takes in some immigrants, but the kind of immigration we have, where we're bringing in 10 million people every 10 years and how many more illegals and they get to make the rules.