00:13:20.000Like, he knows all the relevant facts and everything.
00:13:22.000And we're talking, and he tells me, like, yeah, like, I think the most effective way to communicate our political ideas is to.
00:13:30.000Be normal presenting, you know, in other words, do like normal content, like he does normal lifestyle content, IRL streaming, gaming, that kind of thing, and then inject politics in between.
00:13:42.000That's exactly what I've been thinking about for years we need people, you know, that are like major gaming streamers or like regular lifestyle streamers, but they happen to be our guys.
00:13:55.000We need, you know, wouldn't it be great if we had major celebrities or internet celebrities?
00:14:00.000They were like so called normie celebrities where there's much bigger market share for like gaming content or lifestyle content, but they happen to be red pilled.
00:14:07.000Like, what if Logan Paul was red pilled?
00:14:10.000But if he's dropping, but if he's, you know, watching Greatest Story Never Told on stream, you know, but he's doing all this Wignat stuff, it kind of defeats the whole purpose, right?
00:14:22.000If he's going off like that, if he's going full Wignat mode, it's like, well, that's kind of like the worst of both worlds.
00:15:26.000I've been thinking about these tweets all day.
00:15:29.000Party Goy says when you've had some good burgers in your time and you love a good melted Swiss cheese and roasted mushrooms, And caramelized onions on a burger.
00:17:36.000When you've had some good burgers in your time and you love a good melted Swiss cheese and roasted mushrooms and caramelized onions on a burger, that's hot stuff.
00:17:46.000And I love when you can get it at a number of places.
00:19:36.000The reason I have to play music is because if I'm not playing music, if I don't have noise in my headphones, then my headphones will turn off automatically.
00:22:46.000And he said, you know, I have to ask about the cookie thing and blah, blah, blah.
00:22:50.000And what I've been telling all these reporters for the past few weeks is like, look, if you think that's like engaging in Holocaust denial or like I'm a white nationalist or whatever, this is just, this is literally just context denial.
00:23:04.000It is just egregious and deliberate context denial.
00:23:08.000Because, of course, the context of the show is that I am a Zoomer.
00:23:19.000Informational, but it's also entertainment.
00:23:22.000You know, so, and what I've been telling people is, of course, when you take a quote from my show and put it in a transcript, you know, sometimes it's not going to look right.
00:23:30.000You know, if you take like that cookie joke, for example, and put it as a transcript, maybe it doesn't sound the best.
00:23:37.000You know, maybe it doesn't look amazing on paper.
00:23:39.000But of course, if you watch the video in context, in the context of who I am, the tone of the show, the tone in the moment, you know, I'm laughing while I'm saying it.
00:23:55.000You know, so, and that's one example, but this is what I've been telling all the press when they come to me with, Well, you know, you said on this show, blah, blah, blah.
00:24:15.000It's niche, it's nuanced, it's inaccessible to people that don't understand a very small internet culture, right?
00:24:22.000So I explained that to him over the phone, but then he emails me with this follow up, and the follow up is like, oh, here's 12 quotes going back to like when I was in high school.
00:25:12.000And it's like, okay, well, I can tell you what I say on the show and what I can sort of decode for you what I'm saying and how it's resonating and so on.
00:25:22.000But if they want to get hung up on, oh, well, you said this thing that's a little bit controversial.
00:25:28.000Well, it's missing the big picture, right?
00:25:30.000Obviously, my generation who watches my show is not getting hung up on controversial things.
00:25:38.000Even if they don't agree with it, they think I make good points, right?
00:25:41.000So, if your mission is to try to understand our generation and the dissonant right, well, you should be asking me questions about our ideas, about where it came from, and so on, about the background.
00:26:14.000I get that, but it just pisses me off.
00:26:16.000But anyway, so the article says conservative commentator Ben Shapiro revised his usual bash the leftist script in a speech this month to a packed auditorium at Stanford University.
00:26:30.000He still mocked the radical left, but on that evening, Shapiro unloaded on far right figures who traffic in white supremacy and anti Semitism.
00:27:12.000I'm trying to think of other examples.
00:27:16.000I do sort of parody them on my show sometimes, but that's one of them.
00:27:20.000Anyway, they traffic in white supremacy and anti Semitism.
00:27:24.000Pure, unbridled, vile garbage, he called it.
00:27:27.000A few days later, the far right derailed a conservative event on another campus.
00:27:31.000Donald Trump Jr., son of the president, had come to UCLA to promote his book, Triggered How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us.
00:27:39.000Chanting QA, far right protesters jeered organizers who apparently had decided to block questions from the audience.
00:28:52.000And all these, it's like, oh, they swear allegiance to their leader led by, you know, this.
00:28:59.000Self proclaimed America First Nationalist YouTube provocateur flamethrower.
00:29:04.000Seek influence among young Republicans on campuses and elsewhere ahead of the election.
00:29:10.000At stake, analists say, is how President Trump's youngest voters define Trumpism.
00:29:17.000Will they embrace white nationalism and similar far right causes or reject them?
00:29:22.000I'll say the inclusion of white nationalism in this article is kind of dishonest, it's disingenuous.
00:29:31.000The only figure that they name is me, and I'm not a white nationalist, and I told this journalist I'm not a white nationalist.
00:29:38.000So, you know, unless if they were profiling a self proclaimed white nationalist or an actual white nationalist in the same article, maybe I would get it.
00:29:48.000But the only person they profiled as the far right element that's challenging Kirk and Shapiro is me, and I'm not that.
00:29:55.000And I said I'm not that to this guy, so that's bullshit, but whatever.
00:30:00.000Will they embrace white nationalism and similar far right causes or eject them?
00:30:04.000Part of this is an internecine war within conservatism, said Nicole Hemmer, a Columbia University scholar and author of Messengers of the Right, a 2016 book on conservative media.
00:30:17.000Who is the true follower of Donald Trump?
00:30:20.000Fuentes, a Boston University dropout who lives in the Chicago suburbs, has emerged as a champion of those on the right who believe mainstream conservatism, in their words, conservative Inc., has gone astray.
00:30:34.000He attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, but denies.
00:30:38.000He is a neo Nazi or a white nationalist.
00:31:57.000You know, race realism acknowledges distinctions in race, it's realistic about race, that race is real.
00:32:02.000It is not a construct, it is a reality biologically or sociologically.
00:32:08.000But demographic realism is much better because it's a departure from.
00:32:13.000The connotation of racism or racialism, or you know, maybe people might think it's a fixation about race, and instead it's acknowledging that it's more about demographics, you know, that it's not simply exclusively about race.
00:32:27.000It is about race, but it's about gender, it's about national origin, it is about a generational thing, it's about age.
00:32:34.000So, so it's clean on the one hand that it's demographic kind of obfuscates it a little bit, makes it more ambiguous, but also it's more accurate because it's not singularly race or not exclusively race.
00:32:48.000And so it's good for a lot of reasons.
00:32:50.000It's a departure from those negative connotations.
00:32:56.000And it fits into the rhetoric that already exists with paleoconservatives.
00:32:59.000You know, this idea of demographics being destiny, immigration as a demographic question as opposed to a question of legalism.
00:33:09.000You know, the idea that we're talking not about whether people are line cutting or border jumping, but, you know, how they're affecting the constitution of the country.
00:33:19.000Not the legal document, but I mean the.
00:33:22.000The composition rather of the country.
00:33:44.000Because again, we're not saying, we don't advance the idea of the ethnostate, we don't advance the idea even of balkanization.
00:33:54.000All we're advancing at this stage in the game is that conservatives and more broadly everyone else must recognize that demographic change is happening.
00:34:05.000And also the fact that this diversifying is going to change our lives and in ways that might not be good.
00:34:12.000So it's very, it's not obviously heavy handed.
00:34:15.000It's not very aggressive, but I think that this is what is called for in a piece like this.
00:34:19.000Just to get people thinking well, you know, can anybody dispute that this is true?
00:34:24.000That whether or not you like demographic change, that it's going to bring dramatic and radical change, that it will, the consequences of this will not be insignificant.
00:34:39.000Fuentes on his internet show denounces same sex marriage and transgenderism as deviancy, and he questions U.S. foreign aid to Israel.
00:34:47.000In January, Fuentes likened the Holocaust to a cookie baking operation led by the Cookie Monster in a video monologue that implied he questions the death toll of 6 million Jews.
00:34:58.000Fuentes said in a telephone interview Thursday with the Washington Post that the Cookie Monster video was meant to be a lampoon.
00:35:05.000He said he acknowledges that the Holocaust was, in fact, the systematic.
00:35:09.000Persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.
00:35:15.000Quote, I've never denied the Holocaust, he said.
00:37:42.000I mean, and look, that's not to say that it doesn't matter.
00:37:45.000That's not to say that it's not super important and super bad, but it's like.
00:37:51.000You know, for what it's worth, everybody's saying, oh, the USS Liberty doesn't matter because it happened 60 years ago, but it's like, we're going with the Holocaust, really?
00:37:59.000That's the angle you're going to take with me?
00:38:01.000Anyway, now that the Groyper War is over, we can kind of tackle that more directly.
00:38:08.000I didn't want it to distract from what we were doing at the time, but now that that's over, it's like, can we all realize what a retarded thing this is?
00:38:15.000Anyway, Fuentes said he is Catholic and that his ethnic background includes Mexican heritage to his father's ancestors.
00:38:24.000And then in a video after the August shootings in El Paso, they left 22 dead, including Mexicans and Mexican Americans.
00:38:31.000Fuentes declared the easiest way for Mexicans to not get shot and killed.
00:40:00.000Do they say Ben Shapiro, who in 2003 advocated for the war in Iraq, which killed a quarter of a million Iraqis and was sold to the American public under false pretenses?
00:40:29.000Anyway, the article says, asked about that statement and others, went to said in an email, quote, I don't feel compelled to explain every shocking phrase I've uttered in the over 1,000 hours of content I produced in the span of four years.
00:41:14.000He asked me about my show from when I was in high school.
00:41:19.000When I said Trump is not a serious candidate, he asked me about the CNN journalist thing, which is from like April 2017 before Charlottesville.
00:41:29.000So, yeah, you know, I'm not, I'm not gonna, we're not playing this game.
00:41:32.000Oh, can you explain this, that, and the other?
00:41:33.000She said, no, how about we talk about demographic change?
00:41:36.000Anyway, it shows audience, Fuentes said, as Zoomers, those born after the mid 90s and what is known as Generation Z. Michelle Malkin, a conservative blogger, expressed support for Fuentes and others seeking answers to tough questions about where America is headed, according to prepared remarks.
00:41:51.000For a speech she gave Thursday at UCLA, asserting that she would not disavow Fuentes, Malkin praised, quote, the new generation of America firsters, exposing the big lies of the anti American open borders establishment.
00:42:03.000She added, If I was your mom, I'd be proud as hell.
00:43:05.000So, generally, I mean, the article's okay here.
00:43:07.000Obviously, these pointless jabs about the Holocaust and about the Mexican thing.
00:43:13.000The Mexican comment was also context denial.
00:43:16.000I didn't say, if you don't want to get shot, don't be here.
00:43:19.000The point, the context of that was that illegal immigrants were killed in that attack, and the Mexican government put out a statement and said, America is not protecting Mexicans in America.
00:43:30.000So the context was clearly that you have people that are outsiders and foreigners.
00:43:34.000You have people that are illegal that shouldn't be here.
00:43:36.000You've got the Mexican government saying, oh, like you killed our people.
00:43:45.000So it's in the context of that statement that I said, well, you know, look, if the Mexican government has a problem with their people getting killed in America, I said maybe they shouldn't be here.
00:43:54.000It wouldn't happen if they weren't here, right?
00:43:56.000So that's not exactly the same as saying, oh, if Mexicans don't want to get killed, they shouldn't.
00:47:59.000Because it was on every founding document and presidential seal from our founding, which means out of many, one, you, sir, and your ideology is not conservative.
00:48:22.000So, in the first place, you know, let's watch this so we can figure out, you know, that they play this clip, that Elijah plays this clip is totally dishonest because the guy that asked that question wasn't even a Groyper, wasn't even a follower of mine, wasn't part of what we've been doing for the last three weeks.
00:48:40.000We've probably been responsible for something like over two dozen questions, and that was not one of them.
00:48:46.000We had two in Colorado, four in Iowa, four in New Hampshire.
00:49:49.000First of all, the Identity Europa supporting guy was not a plant, Nick.
00:49:53.000There are people that believe these things, and people who believe things tend to go out and try to get those things to spread, first of all.
00:50:37.000And the idea is that you've got real nationalists like myself, people that are woke on the relevant facts or are trying to advance an agenda that will help the country.
00:50:47.000And you've got these Uyghurs, you've got the Wignats, Uyghur nationalists, who are stupid, who are low IQ, they don't really know how to advance our interests.
00:51:00.000They use bad tactics, very stupid, low IQ rhetoric, you know, and they, you know, very fittingly, very apropos given the term, given, you know, think about it, given the term, they've reappropriated Wignat as a term of endearment for themselves.
00:51:15.000We're the Wignats, you know, stupid, dumb, retarded.
00:51:39.000They are the remnants from the alt right that Richard Spencer led.
00:51:43.000We've explicitly gone against them for years, you know, and I think I even said in the beginning of this year that we defeated the Wignats, we have differentiated ourselves from them, and now we're going to focus on Charlie Kirk.
00:51:55.000Point being, this guy says the questions in North Carolina State, including that clip that we saw here, Was not part of the Groypers, was not part of the American nationalists, was not part of America First, was not a follower of mine.
00:52:09.000They were part of a group specifically opposed to our group.
00:52:12.000They were part of a group that they themselves distinguished themselves from us and differentiated themselves from us.
00:52:18.000So Elijah uses this clip as representative of what we tried to do.
00:52:22.000There were something like 40 or 50 questions, and they took the one that went poorly, and it also happened to be the one that, again, according to somebody who was there coordinating things on the ground, was somebody that was not a part of what we were trying to do.
00:52:35.000I'll also add, however, that although the question didn't go very well, the guy wasn't wrong.
00:52:46.000For our purposes, the idea that the founders were white nationalists is not important in itself, even though by today's definition they would be.
00:52:56.000The reason why it might be effective to bring that up is to point out the fact that Charlie Kirk is a hypocrite, or he's not the real inheritor of what the founding fathers represented.
00:53:06.000You know, the reason why you might want to bring it up.
00:53:09.000The Naturalization Act of 1790, it really has no relevance in and of itself to say that, well, the founders intended for immigration to only be from white countries.
00:53:20.000That in itself is not important because obviously that has been abandoned.
00:53:28.000And whether or not that's what the founders intended, it's clearly very different now.
00:53:33.000And we're not going back anytime soon.
00:53:35.000And the demographic change is baked into the cake in some sense, right?
00:53:38.000So to say, oh, well, the founding fathers passed this law.
00:53:43.000There is nothing valuable about that in itself.
00:53:46.000However, where it becomes valuable is to say, you know, if you disavow white identitarianism, if you disavow white nationalism, well, will you disavow then the Founding Fathers?
00:53:58.000Because the Founding Fathers said X, Y, and Z. That's where rhetorically it can do damage you say you support the Founding Fathers, you say you're a conservative, and your idea of conservatism is conserving the Founding Fathers' vision.
00:54:13.000Or the liberalism of the Founding Fathers.
00:54:16.000If that's the case, then what do you have to say about this bill, the Naturalization Act of 1790, that was signed by George Washington, that all the major Founding Fathers presided over its passing?
00:54:31.000It's not to say, you know, whether or not it's in the Constitution is basically irrelevant, right?
00:54:36.000Whether or not it's in the supreme governing document is irrelevant.
00:54:40.000The point is this if the Constitution or if the Founding Fathers intended for America to be multiracial, Why then would they sign and vote on and preside over the passing of three separate immigration bills the 1790 Immigration Act, and it was the 1792, and the 1802 Immigration Act?
00:54:58.000I'm sorry, the 1795 Immigration Act, the Naturalization Act of 1798, and the Naturalization Law of 1802, which all affirm the same thing.
00:55:08.000Why would they do all this if their idea was a multiracial country?
00:55:13.000It does not have value to say, because we don't support that now.
00:55:17.000Clearly, to go out and say, oh, only white people are Americans is a losing argument.
00:55:22.000It's also not true because there are people that have been on the land for many, many, many generations who are not white.
00:55:29.000And so, just factually speaking, it's incorrect to say that they don't have some stock or other stake in the country, that they are not a part of the fabric in some capacity.
00:55:39.000So, it's not precise to say that that's what we believe now.
00:55:43.000It's not strategic to say that that's what we believe now.
00:55:48.000The reason you bring this up is to show the hypocrisy of the founding fathers, or rather of Charlie Kirk in admiring or promoting the founding fathers.
00:55:56.000Because the Immigration Act of 1790, if you don't know, says that they're limiting naturalization to immigrants who are free white people of good character.
00:56:07.000And all the preceding naturalization immigration acts affirm the same thing in 1795, in 1798, and in 1802.
00:56:18.000Moreover, You could go and look at what presidents have had to say about multiracialism for hundreds of years, from Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, all the way up through to Wilson, Coolidge, even Harry Truman, Teddy Roosevelt.
00:56:36.000You know, all of these presidents have said that they did not believe that the different races would live together on the continent having full political and social equality.
00:56:46.000Now, I'm not saying that's what I believe, but it is to say that if Charlie Kirk wants to present himself, As the vanguard of the Founding Fathers' ideology, or he's conserving the Founding Fathers' vision, or if he's trying to make it out like the Founding Fathers' vision was multiracialism, you use these quotes and these laws to show that that's not true.
00:57:07.000To say that actually, even if you were a so called white nationalist or whatever, your views would kind of be more consistent with the Founding Fathers than Charlie Kirk's.
00:57:17.000That's only to point out the hypocrisy.
00:57:19.000Okay, well, if that's your view, then go ahead and condemn the Founding Fathers.
00:57:30.000Because you believe in multiracialism and all this, and you think anybody who's not 100% on board is evil, and that's what they said in the Florida statement oh, everybody who's against demographic change is evil.
00:57:43.000Then I want to hear you say that the signatories on these bills, which reflect the views you're talking about, I want to hear you say George Washington is evil.
00:57:50.000I want to hear you say that Truman and Wilson and Coolidge and Lincoln and Harding and all these guys are evil because that's what they believed.
00:57:59.000And if not, well, then don't call yourself, then you must call yourself a progressive.
00:58:04.000You must tell us that your ideology does not come from the founding fathers or any American leader in the first 200 years of the country's existence, but your ideology is new.
00:58:14.000Your ideology comes from the The cultural and social changes that took place out of the 60s and 70s.
00:58:21.000And you actually have a very new and progressive idea of demographics and immigration.
00:58:28.000So, you know, that guy who asked the question was a bonehead.
00:59:00.000E pluribus unum means out of many one.
00:59:03.000It's a traditional motto out of the United States.
00:59:06.000It's on the seal, it's on all the founding documents.
00:59:11.000The meaning of e pluribus unum, out of many one, means the concept that out of the union of the original 13 colonies emerges a single nation.
00:59:22.000If you notice in this clip, Charlie Kirk asks this guy, he's on a roll, oh, though the founders didn't put white people of good character in the Constitution because they didn't believe it.
00:59:33.000If they didn't believe it, why did they preside over and pass the 1790, 1795, 1798, and 1802 Immigration and Naturalization Acts?
00:59:41.000Why did Thomas Jefferson say that, and, you know, Washington, all these other guys say that they didn't believe that blacks and whites should live together and enjoy political equality?
00:59:51.000You know, why would they say those things if they didn't believe it?
00:59:53.000Obviously, That not being in the Constitution doesn't mean they didn't believe it, right?
00:59:58.000Moreover, then he says, Well, what does e pluribus unum mean?
01:00:08.000And what he's implying when he says that, e pluribus unum, which is on all the founding documents, it's on the seal, it's on the currency, whatever, what he's implying is that it is intrinsic to the fabric of the nation, going back to the founding fathers, that we are a multiracial nation.
01:00:23.000He's saying that what e pluribus unum means is out of many races.
01:00:28.000Out of many countries of origin, out of many religions, in other words, out of diversity, out of a diverse population, comes one nation.
01:00:38.000And he says he's using that definition, he's sort of gish galloping there, he sort of snuck that in there, and everybody's supposed to infer that out of many one means out of immigrants from Mexico, out of immigrants from Africa, immigrants from Asia, immigrants from Europe comes one nation.
01:00:54.000And therefore, if it's on all the governing documents, Then it is quintessentially American to be in favor of demographic change, multiracialism, multi ethnic society.
01:01:14.000The Latin phrase that's on the money and on the governing documents, it says out of many one, is not referring to countries of origin or races or religions.
01:01:24.000It's referring to something very specific.
01:01:26.000It's referring to the 13 independent colonies.
01:01:30.000That after the revolution would come together under the Constitution to form one nation, which is obviously not an insignificant detail.
01:01:40.000The founding fathers did not put e pluribus unum on the seal and on the money and on the governing documents to indicate that America is supposed to be this boarding house for the world's poor and refugees, but they put that on there to signify that out of 13 distinct colonies with their own identities would come one unified country, the United States of America.
01:01:59.000Up until the Civil War, or I think maybe more appropriately after World War II, the United States was referred to in plural form.
01:02:09.000To the United States of America, not as a singular nation, but they would talk about those United States, those states that are united, those United States of America was how it was referred to.
01:02:20.000Because up until the Civil War, and it took after Reconstruction and ultimately World War II to solidify a common national identity, Americans largely identified with their region or their state or their territory.
01:02:34.000So if you look at Sam Huntington's book, Who Are We?, he actually has a very good visualization of this.
01:02:45.000And it was only in after World War II or shortly after Reconstruction and the Civil War did Americans have a singular national identity.
01:02:54.000Prior to that, they identified with their states.
01:02:57.000That's the historical significance of the phrase, is because prior to the Revolution, prior to the creation of the American nation, it was all these separate and independent colonies that people identified with their state or their territory rather than this idea of one conglomeration of them, confederacy or federation ultimately of them.
01:04:20.000It's just very disingenuous that he would show that clip and not even address those things.
01:04:25.000Holy hell, wow, I am absolutely shocked at Charlie Kirk's performance answering those students that have been waging war during his tour around campuses on this country.
01:04:35.000If you're not aware of what's going on right now, there is an entire war being waged, not just for the culture of this country, but between factions on the right wing trying to decide what it means to be conservative.
01:04:46.000With some groups calling Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA Talking Point USA because they say that they shill for Israel and, of course, they don't care about white people or socially conservative ideas.
01:04:56.000Which brought up this national debate that I think a lot of people want to know is what the hell does it mean to be a conservative?
01:05:03.000What does it even mean to be right wing?
01:05:05.000See, the left knows what it means to be left wing.
01:05:08.000They have their own propaganda for children, they have their own propaganda for teenagers, and even in our universities and media for adults.
01:05:20.000We're going to get into that on today's show.
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01:06:45.000Before I make any of these large blanket statements about any group involved in this argument, I really want to bring to you the reason why I chose this topic this week.
01:06:55.000Not only did Ben Shapiro, at his recent speech in Stanford, of course, spend about 45 minutes trying to address what it means to be right wing and trying to dismiss groups, of course, that he considers fringe or white supremacists, but it looks like the entire swath of right wing commentators and the political landscape is engaged in a head to head warfare, of course, between two groups, which some people are calling conservative, Inc.
01:07:19.000Or conservative mainstream, which would be, I guess, what I would be a part of.
01:07:23.000And there's this other group that are called the Groypers.
01:07:25.000Now, what's really weird is that group also calls themselves America First.
01:07:29.000But in reality, I think anybody who supports Donald Trump probably is an America First individual.
01:07:34.000So, what you're finding is these two groups that claim to define what it really means to be right wing, what it truly means to be a conservative, but they don't agree with each other.
01:07:43.000In fact, you have one group, Conservative Inc., and a lot of these people calling this other group of Groypers white supremacists, white nationalists, absolute insane fringe individuals.
01:07:52.000Which, of course, this group out of America First and right wingers claim isn't true.
01:07:56.000They're saying that they care about immigration, that they do care about white identity, but they're saying that that's not the same thing.
01:08:07.000And truly, I want to answer the question today through facts and not through fiction on what it means to be right wing.
01:08:13.000Because rather than letting two groups who are in the spotlight decide about what it means to be a conservative, why am I going to listen to some guy in a suit or even some guy in a cheaper suit on a show?
01:09:19.000And we'll let the definition of truth decide what it actually means.
01:09:24.000But before we get to that, I want to let you know something absolutely insane.
01:09:27.000Not only does arguing and fighting stink, but also so does animal urine pee, especially all those crazy stains and odors that get into your house that I can't stand.
01:09:38.000It's so, uh, it's so absolutely insane product.
01:09:48.000So it's a small investment, but a little bit of money.
01:09:50.000Two minute advertisements and calmness in your house, whatever with friends, but let America Genesis 950 do the job to remove all the hard work from those.
01:11:43.000I think it's degrading that I'm going to be turned into an ad man.
01:11:47.000I know some people, some people that like, I don't want to get too specific, but I've seen people on Instagram, people that are not even famous, people that don't even have a big following.
01:11:57.000I've seen people that I went to high school with and they become brand ambassadors or they're doing advertisements on their stories.
01:12:05.000And these are people that aren't even like influencers.
01:12:17.000Now, an ambassador, you've turned into a walking billboard for some company because what?
01:12:22.000They promised to pay you $500 a month and you're going to try and shill this to your friends and family?
01:12:28.000Hey, guys, be sure to check out my discount code, you know, codename Cody, codename Jonathan for all my friends and family who want to get 15% off on, you know, whatever, on widgets.
01:12:43.000And nobody sees anything wrong with this.
01:12:45.000I think about this all the time the advertiser question.
01:13:18.000If the show gets really, really big and if there's complications with the funding, I would never.
01:13:22.000I would never say never to something like that, but I've got no plans to do it anytime soon.
01:13:27.000I am principally opposed to ads, won't do it.
01:13:30.000And I don't even say that to be like so self righteous, but it's just so funny to me that like I turned down thousands and thousands of dollars, like lucrative offers, and people call me a grifter.
01:13:43.000You know, I turned down trips, you know, all you, I, if I told you the things that I've been offered, it would make you throw up and you would see what a cool and, Epic and authentic person I am.
01:13:55.000But people come up with these conspiracy theories.
01:13:57.000Like on poll, all these past two weeks, the theory has been I'm working for Steve Bannon.
01:14:58.000Who would be paying me to go and do a stream listening to lo-fi hip-hop at 4 a.m. to talk about how the founding fathers were actually closer to white nationalists than they were to Trump?
01:16:38.000I get in the studio, I turn on the lights, I turn on my computer, I swing over my boom microphone, I turn on my little lamp, I hit the stream button, I do my little show, I write my own notes, and then I turn off the stream.
01:17:46.000We're talking about people heckling at each other.
01:17:48.000And I've heard a lot of people saying today that they have the real definition of what it means to be right wing.
01:17:56.000But of course, if you have two groups of people that say, We are the real conservatives, as you heard Charlie Kirk say earlier, get out, get out of line.
01:18:05.000And then you have this other group of America First people, which are often led by a figurehead that they look to named Nick J. Fuentes, who was a previous guest on this show.
01:18:14.000They say, Hey, those are fake conservatives because they don't care about America.
01:18:18.000They're pushing for immigration, et cetera, in terms of repopulating the country and moving out the white identity or the white country, and amongst other things.
01:18:30.000And you go, well, what the hell does it mean?
01:18:32.000Because really, conservative is an interesting thing, and previously it was just enough to call a right wing person somebody who believed in what?
01:20:02.000After the Treaty of Westphalia, or around the 1600s, when the modern nation state surfaced, that's when I know the Treaty of Westphalia, I think it was like 1520.
01:20:22.000It's maybe 300 years old or thereabouts.
01:20:25.000And because prior to that, you didn't have this idea of conservative and liberal and right wing and left wing, you had the monarchy.
01:20:32.000It was only recently, with the invention of the printing press and the advent of individualism and the private self, did you have these kinds of political ideas.
01:20:40.000The nation state itself and this idea of enfranchisement is very new, very modern development.
01:20:48.000Anyway, so where does right and left wing come from?
01:20:52.000So you had this Catholic monarchy in France, Louis XVI.
01:20:55.000You had people who opposed the monarchy.
01:20:57.000And the way they split up their National Assembly was on the right side, the right wing of the National Assembly, all the members who were in support of the monarchy of the old regime were seated.
01:21:10.000And on the left wing, on the left side of the dais, were seated all the opponents of the monarchy.
01:21:17.000And so there's sort of two ways to think about this.
01:21:20.000On the one hand, you have a particularist idea of what it means to be right wing and left wing in the sense that it is not context dependent.
01:21:27.000Right wing means you're in favor of monarchy, and left wing means you're not.
01:21:31.000Right wing means you're in favor of Catholic monarchy, and left wing means you're opposed to it, right?
01:21:35.000So there's a particular definition that says, well, right wing and left wing, the only application is in the context of the French Revolution, which is in some sense true.
01:21:43.000But there's another definition that says it's more universalist, and it says that right wing, then, if we're to oppose it, It to other countries, obviously, to call this only as it pertains to the French monarchy only makes sense in the context of what's happening in France in the late 1800s.
01:22:05.000But to apply it to other countries, you would say that it has a more subjective definition and that a right wing party is one that opposes change, one that is protecting the old regime, the old way of doing things, and the left wing is advancing revolution, the left wing is advancing change.
01:23:01.000When we think about power, power in regimes are built on top of legitimacy and the use of force.
01:23:08.000So, when you think about a question like legitimacy, it's important to acknowledge that not since monarchies did we really have a very bedrock understanding of legitimacy for the government.
01:23:22.000It was De Maistre, who was one of these counter enlightenment thinkers, who said that the only legitimate government you can have, the only legitimate Constitution you can have is one that's underwritten by God, one that's underwritten by religion.
01:23:37.000You know, because if you don't believe that at a certain point the buck stops with a transcendent being, whether it's God or something else, that the king has a divine right or something, well, then invariably you will just get ceaseless contests and challenges to power.
01:23:54.000You will get ceaseless skepticism, questioning.
01:23:57.000You know, in other words, with our Constitution, you know, we say that while our Constitution derives From natural law or something like that.
01:24:05.000Because it doesn't appeal directly, and it's sort of a hybrid, in some sense it does appeal to God, but it's not quite explicit.
01:24:12.000If the Constitution doesn't say the Congress and the Constitution was created by God Himself, divinely inspired, whatever, people that wrote it were divinely inspired, of course you've got these endless attacks on the legitimacy of the government and on the legitimacy of the Constitution.
01:24:28.000You know, what are the value judgments that we're making that the Constitution is going to be the highest law in the land, that the Constitution established?
01:24:44.000So, as such, in this present day, you've got people saying, well, the people that wrote the Constitution were slaveholders, so fuck the Constitution.
01:24:52.000Or the Constitution has this evolving definition or something like that.
01:24:57.000All this is to say that maybe what right wing means is that maybe there is something that is not universal about the idea of right wing.
01:25:07.000Maybe you could apply it in the sense that right wing is resisting change or resisting.
01:25:10.000Progress, but maybe in other ways to think that, well, maybe it isn't as complicated as you've got all these different systems and all these complex different situations.
01:25:19.000Maybe it is as simple as you've got order, you've got God, you've got the natural order of things, which is the monarchy.
01:25:26.000You know, things are proceeding from the monarchy.
01:25:29.000And you have chaos, which is manifest in every other system, you know, whether it be communism or capitalism or liberalism or republicanism or democracy.
01:25:41.000But He says, well, right wing means conservative and conservative means low taxes.
01:26:27.000I think it was the leader of the Republican Party at the time, a man by the name of Taft.
01:26:33.000It was people like Nisbet and Kirk and a lot of these classical Republican thinkers, some other names I can't remember off the top of my head, who said that we have to return to the right wing that existed before World War II, which was not totally concerned with this limited government stuff.
01:26:50.000It was more about social conservatism, non intervention, these kinds of things, the social fabric.
01:26:56.000It wasn't until Ronald Reagan, when he peddled this fusionist ideology of uniting social conservatives, Cold War warriors, you know, hawkish Cold War type people, and free market types, libertarian types, did you get this conflation of right wing with small government.
01:27:14.000It's a very new phenomenon in the history of America and the history of the world, so to say.
01:27:19.000Well, normally we would just say conservatives, small government.
01:27:21.000Well, normally as of 40 years ago, but the world existed before Ronald Reagan, you know?
01:27:32.000We're just about a broader form of government, higher taxes and social programs funded by taxpayers.
01:27:38.000But in 2015, there was a paradigm shift that happened, specifically something that we all weren't ready for.
01:27:45.000Now, according to a recent Pew research, which, by the way, is animated nicely here by a Prager U animation team, which hats off to them, these would also be considered the stupid ink individuals that supposedly shill for the people that we know what that means.
01:28:01.000But we'll get into that a little bit later.
01:28:02.000They show that around the 2015 election, as we move forward into 2017, the left wing narrative began to push so far to the left that what was considered once centrist views have now deviated on the spectrum so far in this direction that what it means to be right wing has actually expanded.
01:29:43.000But the reality is that he finally got his dream that he wanted to host the Academy Awards, which is in a great show where you see a bunch of pedophiles in front of other pedophiles talking about anything but the fact that they are pedophiles.
01:29:55.000That aside, while they pat themselves on the back for making more unwatchable movies that nobody wants to see, they go up on the stage and they finally nominate this black man, which, by the way, according to Civil Rights, is a breakthrough.
01:30:41.000I like how, by the way, you know, notice when it comes to Kevin Hart making a joke, that's fine.
01:30:48.000I make a joke and I get crucified for it, right?
01:30:52.000You know, if we want to play the same game, it's like, oh, these woke scolds and the progressive mob, you know, they're going after Kevin Hart for making a joke, or they're going after Roseanne Barr for making a joke.
01:31:04.000You know, the way he says that, oh, maybe it's in poor taste, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:31:07.000You know, what if I took the same approach that people take to me about the cookie question?
01:31:47.000Anyway, I just had to say that because it's just so stupid the more you think about it.
01:31:53.000Because while, of course, he's progressive, he pushes the agenda of Hollywood, he shills for all of these people, in the end, he made a joke, a freaking joke.
01:32:03.000And that makes him not progressive enough.
01:32:05.000And what you're going to find is that people got mad at him, this LGBTQ alphabet army that moves at their own record speed to try to excommunicate anyone from the left wing that isn't radical or progressive enough.
01:32:42.000And I'm not the only one who gets fed up with it, actually.
01:32:44.000When you look at the truth, there's many people who once thought themselves to be liberal, thought themselves to be left wing, that are now considered to be what?
01:32:54.000Because Nazis just the Phrase that we use to explain people who no longer agree with whatever made up truth people have invented today.
01:33:03.000And so, what's happened is, as the Pew Research showed, as the left moved more left, there was this greater swath of people that now are grouped into the right wing who don't have an identity, which means that the right wing has been defined in the last three years, whether you like it or not.
01:33:19.000And I'm hearing a lot of social conservatives, who, by the way, are extremely important to the framework and fabric of this country, people who care about.
01:33:27.000Things like the freedom of rights of religion and of marriage and family values and traditions living in a small hole, not understanding that the right wing has advanced not because we wanted it.
01:37:00.000And you can get it at a number of places.
01:37:04.000I just, when you've had burgers in your time, I love when you've had some good burgers in your time, and you love a good Swiss melted Swiss cheese and mushrooms, roasted mushrooms, and caramelized onions on a burger.
01:38:28.000Because we actually are more tolerant and inclusive because we don't judge people just based on our own views.
01:38:33.000We judge people based off of our Constitution, Bill of Rights, the founding documents that establish the truth of the country that we live in.
01:38:42.000So I began to look and I said, you know, okay, fine.
01:38:58.000I think it's mostly because Nick J. Fuentes' show is called America First.
01:39:02.000And this is not an attack on any group, this is just my synopsis of what's going on.
01:39:06.000It's like they're not the only America first people.
01:39:09.000They think they are because of their views on this limited immigration, both legal and illegal.
01:39:14.000They do tend to have an ethnocentric immigrant quotas, which I'll get into later, which I think is really weird because I don't see that there's any less liberal or left leaning voting people coming from Europe.
01:39:25.000So I don't know if this argument that ethnocentric immigration is the key to our future.
01:39:31.000Maybe talk about limiting immigration in general.
01:39:36.000And then you have this right-leaning people called Conservative Inc.
01:39:38.000You got people, this establishment, I guess you might say, or people that are trying to win elections, not just fight internal wars for the future of our own view count or what we think is right.
01:39:48.000We're trying to cooperatively work together to fight and get Donald Trump into office in 2020.
01:39:53.000Now, this group over here, right, sees this other group as being too fringe, too far-right, whatever.
01:39:57.000But so I go, okay, so then what does it mean to be a conservative?
01:40:00.000Because if the America First people are calling us fake conservatives, then I sure as hell want to know what it means to be a real one.
01:40:06.000Because I want to find out on what points am I not matching up with being a conservative.
01:40:12.000Now, of course, conservative is a broad term used to cover the right, right?
01:40:15.000And it's basically based on these tenets.
01:40:17.000It's based on a tenet of individualism.
01:40:20.000People believe in autonomy over property, autonomy over their own rights against the state.
01:40:24.000They believe in an advocacy of American exceptionalism.
01:40:26.000They believe that the American story is important as an individual right and a sanction, that we are important in this country, not just as people, but also in the world.
01:40:36.000They also believe in moral relativism.
01:40:38.000They believe in the defense of Western culture, both as an idea and as a people, right?
01:40:43.000Just because you say America is an idea and can translate and transcribe doesn't mean that there aren't American traditions.
01:40:50.000Also, saying there's Western ideas or America.
01:41:32.000America's an idea doesn't mean that Western cultures and Western people in Europe don't have the right to their own identity, just like Chinese people do, Korean people do, Japanese people do.
01:41:42.000Saying one thing like that America's an idea doesn't negate the same.
01:41:56.000Because that's not what conservative is trying to make the point.
01:41:58.000It's trying to make the point that if you say that other people cannot adopt and become a part of conservative ideas if they're not white, that's taking a step too far, and you are going into ethnocentrism and white supremacy.
01:56:27.000Things like Thanksgiving, but Thanksgiving is not just ethnocentric either.
01:56:30.000I've still got a lot of people looking at my other.
01:56:32.000What makes America strong is that we have traditions like Thanksgiving where we have a center turkey, but someone who's Hispanic might have a side dish of a tamale, which I think are disgusting.
01:56:41.000And then I might have green bean casserole, which they're like, what the hell are white people always doing making these weird dishes like meatloaf?
01:56:48.000But in the end, we still have these shared common traditions of Thanksgiving.
01:56:51.000We also believe in Judeo Christian values, moral universalism, pro business, and of course, anti communism.
01:57:00.000What makes America strong is that we have traditions like Thanksgiving where we have a center turkey, but someone who's Hispanic might have a side dish of a tamale, which I think are disgusting.
01:57:10.000And then I might have green bean casserole, which they're like, what the hell are white people always doing making these weird dishes like meatloaf?
01:59:56.000It has common customs, common mannerisms, a shared experience.
02:00:02.000There are a lot of things that go into a nation being held together that people identify with one another, that being an American means something, that it's a meaningful identity.
02:01:34.000But to break it down even further, people go, okay, cool, that's conservatism, but hey, then who's really right here?
02:01:41.000Is it these America First Groypers who are coming out of nowhere?
02:01:44.000Which, by the way, I believe one of their biggest downfalls is the way that they hyper focus on Israel, thinking that somehow Israel's at the center of our corruption, and it borderlines, or if not completely, dives into anti Semitism.
02:03:19.000I mean, the definition of anti Semitism, the official CIA factbook definition, legal definition of anti Semitism, has grown so large to be absurd, but nobody is critiquing Israel because of prejudice against a certain people.
02:03:36.000And anyway, but so, so this is just bullshit.
02:03:41.000And sometimes, actually, the right, I would say the right conservative ink, has this weird love affair with Israel where anytime you criticize Israel, they call you an anti Semite.
02:04:18.000And he's saying, oh, well, these guys worship Israel and refuse to criticize a foreign country, and these guys don't want to worship a foreign country.
02:04:27.000But everyone's America first and everyone's wrong.
02:04:31.000At the first and foremost, the ultimate ideal is being an individual, which means that you don't have to play sides in what it means to be conservative.
02:04:39.000You can realize that an overemphasis on a small state like Israel.
02:04:42.000Overcritical, of course, of an ally who shares a lot of our interests, who, of course, we've had issues with, like any of our allies.
02:05:11.000How do you explain to somebody what's going on if it's, well, yeah, Israel spies on us, Israel sells our military technology, but, you know, murder happens in America sometimes.
02:07:31.000It says Moreover, laws and institutions, as in the case of all traditional civilizations, were both from above and oriented upwards.
02:07:40.000A political, economic, and social order created merely for the sake of temporal life is exclusively characteristic of the modern world, that is, of the anti traditional world.
02:07:51.000So, traditional in this context, understand.
02:07:54.000In the context of this book, traditional does not mean old.
02:07:57.000It is a capital T word that means, you know, the.
02:08:02.000And there's a totally different, like, metaphysics going on in this book.
02:08:05.000They believe that, like, human beings originate from these Golden Age giants from the Hyperborean realm.
02:08:14.000And, you know, they came down, they sort of existed in these higher states and they were physically larger and had these super advanced capital T traditional societies.
02:08:42.000Anyway, so he says traditionally the state had a transcendent meaning and purpose that were not inferior to the ones that the Catholic Church claimed for itself in the West as a manifestation of and a path to the world above.
02:08:57.000The very term state in Latin, status, from the Greek, you know, it's in classical Greek, to stay, empirically may have derived from the form of social life taken up by nomadic populations once they permanently settled down.
02:09:12.000However, it may also point to a higher meaning, namely to an order concerned with hierarchical participation in a spiritual stability, as opposed to the contingent, unstable, changeable, chaotic, and particularistic.
02:09:28.000Character of a naturalistic existence.
02:09:31.000This order constituted the accurate reflection of the world of being and the world of becoming.
02:09:37.000Hence, the words pronounced in the course of a Vedic royal consecration This world of the living is steady, and so is this king of the people.
02:09:46.000In this way, traditional states and empires often employed the symbols of centrality and of polarity that have been associated with the archetype of regality.
02:09:57.000So, to deconstruct this, it says, you know, the first place, the term state.
02:10:02.000Which we know as the government, the regime, derives from status or to stay.
02:10:08.000They say, in a literal way, we get the word state from the idea that nomadic peoples, of course, nomadic meaning hunter gatherers moving around, once they permanently settled down and planted their roots, they developed agriculture and permanent settlements.
02:10:25.000They were staying in one place, so they had to administer their settlement with a state.
02:10:32.000They needed somebody to govern this settlement, a state.
02:10:36.000It says at the same time, though, it has another definition.
02:10:40.000There's a higher meaning of spiritual stability.
02:10:44.000They're saying, and what Evel is saying in this book is that you've got the temporal world, which is obviously our lifetime here on this world, on this plane, as contrasted against a spiritual world, a higher realm, a transcendent realm.
02:11:02.000And it says that you've got the spiritual realm that the state connects us to, that a monarchy through rights, through a priestly class, exercising their rights, rituals, and things like this, their communion with this higher realm, and this gives our society in this temporal world a stability.
02:11:23.000Whereas in the absence of that connection, you've got a world that is contingent, unstable, changeable, chaotic, and particularistic.
02:11:33.000That is the state of natural existence.
02:12:27.000If conservatism means to conserve, if right wing is to be in favor of order or the old regime or traditional, Perennial modes of living, as opposed to progressive, changing, dynamic ways of living, the only way to regard conservatism is as statist.
02:12:45.000Because the state, like it says, by definition means stability, directed towards higher forms and stability, even in a very literal sense, in a sociological sense of planning down roots and having permanent settlements.
02:12:59.000So, the state, we have to rehabilitate all these fucking libertarians say, oh, statist is like a pejorative.
02:13:50.000Generally speaking, by the way, this book, which you probably can't see because it's green, I don't love this book.
02:13:58.000I have to say, everybody holds this book up as like, you know, Steve Bannon, I guess, was a big fan of this, and Evola was very in vogue for the dissident right back in like 2015, 2016.
02:14:20.000It gives you a good perspective on things, but it's a real slog to read.
02:14:24.000Like I said, it sort of meanders all over the place.
02:14:28.000And fundamentally, you'd be so much better served just reading about Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas and Catholicism because although it makes some good points, and through the ancient traditions, it captures maybe a shade of the way things are.
02:14:46.000You know, with Christ and in that way, it's not true.
02:14:50.000You know, where maybe they capture some of the things that are true in Christianity or Catholicism, it's only a shade of that, and it's through things that are not true.
02:15:00.000You know, talking about Hyperboreans and pagan gods and all that.
02:15:04.000Like, yeah, the premise of higher forms and tradition is true, but none of the myths are true.
02:15:13.000The myth of the pagans and all this is not true.
02:15:16.000So it's a good idea that, sure, like, we have to appeal to tradition, and maybe there's something good about tradition, and maybe there is the spirituality.
02:15:24.000But without, you know, if you don't actually believe in the gods, well, it doesn't make any sense.
02:15:39.000It's nice as like a thought experiment to say that, oh, you know, maybe these people are onto something and, you know, there were some nuances in what they believed and maybe we don't totally understand what they believe.
02:15:48.000But if you don't actually believe in these gods, then, you know, we're just back to the same question, which is, you know, this epistemological problem.
02:15:57.000This problem of knowledge of how do we know what is real?
02:16:42.000America has done bad things on our own soil.
02:16:44.000So when we start focusing on Israel and how Israel's bad because they've done some bad things, we sound a lot like the liberals who constantly attack America because we've done some bad things, negating the net positive of the good that we've done.
02:17:21.000If somebody's beating you up, if somebody's mugging you and they're beating the shit out of you, you don't go to yourself, well, you know, I've done bad things too, so yeah, bring it on.
02:17:32.000Yeah, condemning this guy that's beating the shit out of me.
02:19:37.000You can only shill for Israel, or you can only defend Israel, and then you can't attack them.
02:19:42.000Well, then you're taking away an individual's ability to think, and that isn't a conservative idea either.
02:19:47.000So, in some cases, on a topic like Israel, I think both groups have it wrong.
02:19:50.000And I think it's up to the individual to decide what they should look at and decide.
02:19:54.000But a conservative is actually three things.
02:19:56.000And I want to bring this up and I want to bring up an example.
02:19:58.000I like how he attacks this on the grounds of if you criticize somebody for criticizing Israel, or if you shut down somebody for criticizing Israel, you're taking away their freedom to think.
02:21:50.000Before we look at just being conservative alone, the real argument is do social conservatives matter?
02:21:55.000Because here's the point there are three types of conservatives there are fiscal conservatives, there are constitutional conservatives, and there are social conservatives.
02:22:03.000Some people are one of them, other people are all three.
02:22:07.000But we need to look at these three groups to understand what it means to be a conservative to realize can someone like Rob Smith, who's gay and black, be a conservative?
02:22:20.000I do think, of course, asking questions of Rob at an open forum about his anal sex at conservative value is very foolish because I want to come to his defense a little bit here and say that with Rob Smith, when he says, I'm a gay black conservative, he's not then promoting homosexuality, saying, Conservatives are homosexuals, or saying he's black, as in you have to be black to be conservative.
02:22:42.000He's making a point in a world of identity politics.
02:22:45.000He's saying that certain individuals believe at a 90% voting rate that you cannot be gay and be conservative.
02:22:54.000And of course, he's saying, but I am conservative and gay.
02:22:59.000And that's the same thing with being black.
02:23:00.000Obviously, his biggest identity isn't that he's a black person.
02:23:03.000The whole point of being conservative and right wing is we don't care about your skin color.
02:23:06.000But of course, he has to say that because he's showing people look, I exist, I'm real, and you can't say that, you can't wipe away the reality of what I stand for.
02:23:14.000But by no means is he promoting only black people are conservatives or you gotta be gay.
02:23:21.000Honestly, if you start nitpicking him and you start saying that, oh, he's promoting homosexuality by letting people know he's gay, you're messing up the point.
02:23:28.000And am I by any means sponsoring homosexuality in my own personal views?
02:23:40.000We're going to talk first about fiscal conservatives.
02:23:42.000So fiscal conservatism, also called conservative economics, are people who believe in low taxes, reduced government spending, minimal government debt.
02:23:52.000Free trade, deregulation of the economy, lower taxes, and privatization as defining qualities.
02:23:59.000Now, fiscal conservatives, of course, are concerned first and foremost with the economy, keeping it in this laissez faire type of free trade, low regulation, my money's my money, let me run my business.
02:24:11.000And so, what's really interesting today is as the rise of people seeing a lack of social conservatives sometimes point at people who are fiscally conservative, by the way, and they say they're not a real conservative.
02:24:22.000But here's what's interesting well, what does it mean to conserve?
02:24:25.000It means that you're trying to keep something the way it is.
02:24:28.000This is just all, this is just like so upside down and inside out.
02:25:43.000Certainly you can use conservative as an adjective and say, I'm more conservative when it comes to fiscal issues, budgetary issues.
02:25:51.000But if you're somebody who, you know, thinks maybe that we shouldn't have a large debt, but you support drag queen, story hour, transgenderism, homosexuality, mass migration, and so on.
02:26:09.000In other words, if you have this Venn diagram of what you believe and what conservatism is, and the only thing in the middle is maybe that running a high deficit is a bad idea, can you say that that's a conservative?
02:26:22.000Can you say that that person could be classified as right wing or conservative?
02:27:11.000But I think, in a certain sense, conservatism is the rejection of ideology.
02:27:15.000But, I mean, this is getting a little off track.
02:27:19.000Point being, there's one kind of conservative, there's one kind of right wing person, and it's somebody that is in favor of order, pragmatism, realism, these kinds of things.
02:27:31.000These particulars about the economy or the Constitution is just something I think it's maybe designed to confuse people or obfuscate the matter.
02:27:43.000And the same is true with the Constitution.
02:27:45.000You know, there are progressives that believe in the Constitution or something.
02:29:33.000It's almost even hard to break it down because it's just so nonsensical.
02:29:37.000And you've got to understand that part of politics is orienting your worldview and identifying who the players are and identifying what's going on and what are the main schools of thought.
02:29:50.000And so the worldview is just so nonsensical, it's almost hard to debunk it.
02:29:54.000It's just like, well, I mean, this is all just like totally wrong.
02:29:57.000The idea that within the broader ecosystem of American politics, you've got all these like tiny little subgroups and they're particular to issues and so on, it's just basically like wrong.
02:30:08.000Like, you have to orient yourself in a way, in a proper way, to understand where we go from here and to explain events.
02:30:15.000Can you explain like the events of the last 200 years of this country with these definitions of?
02:30:21.000Social conservatives and fiscal conservatives, and whatever.
02:30:24.000I mean, maybe to an extent it's useful to describe certain factions that have risen and fallen, but if you're trying to determine what is the objective nature of the right wing, this doesn't help you do that.
02:30:37.000You know, maybe in a strictly partisan sense, you could describe Republicans that are concerned about certain issues, you know, issues based voters or factions or interests.
02:30:45.000But we're talking about ideology or metapolitics.
02:30:50.000It's sort of just like on a different plane, you know?
02:30:55.000You wouldn't say, like, oh, you're a Second Amendment conservative, you're whatever, and all these things are like floating out there in this like metapolitical space.
02:31:02.000No, maybe in a very strictly partisan sense, in a very cosmetic political plane, you can talk about it in this way, but.
02:31:15.000The country has been set up on this free market capitalism, has put it in a position that a lot of people believe is the best route to a society, whether or not they believe in universal moral.
02:31:43.000You know, what he just described is neoliberalism.
02:31:46.000He says that irrespective of morality and everything else, fiscal conservatives believe that economic liberalization is the way to a better society, irrespective of other things.
02:32:00.000What is the definition of neoliberalism?
02:32:03.000Neoliberalism says that we should apply economic competition to all facets of life.
02:32:09.000The competition, privatization, and economic liberalization will produce better societies, again, irrespective of everything else.
02:33:22.000I'll Google the definition if you think I'm pulling it out of my ass.
02:33:38.000Okay, so it says neoliberalism is the 20th century resurgence of 19th century ideas associated with laissez faire economic liberalism and free market capitalism, which constituted a paradigm shift away from the post war Keynesian consensus that lasted from 1945 to 1980.
02:33:58.000Neoliberalism is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization, including.
02:34:03.000Privatization, deregulation, free trade, austerity, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.
02:34:18.000There's also something in there about applying it to other parts of life.
02:34:22.000I think, is this in Wikipedia or it might be a different definition?
02:34:25.000Because I remember that being specifically a part of it.
02:35:15.000Lower taxes and privatization as defining.
02:35:18.000Okay, low taxes, reduced government spending, minimal government debt, free trade, deregulation, privatization.
02:35:25.000What is in the definition of neoliberalism?
02:35:28.000Economic liberalization, including privatization, deregulation, free trade, austerity means cutting government spending and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.
02:37:24.000Can Rob Smith be a fiscal conservative and a homosexual and black?
02:37:27.000Does your race or your sexual orientation matter about what your views are on the economy?
02:37:32.000Of course, there's a voting block that would say that the majority of people that fall under, let's say, certain ethnic minorities or sexual orientations do vote left.
02:37:39.000The truth of the matter is that's what we're trying to tell people.
02:37:42.000You don't have to vote left just because you're gay and just because you're black.
02:37:47.000I vote right wing and I'm able to do it myself.
02:37:51.000So, the reality that we get to as we move on to this is this philosophical outlook that oftentimes is actually more related to classical liberalism.
02:37:59.000Is not a defining factor of people who are only religious.
02:38:02.000And if you think that we can win an election without taking into account people who look at Elizabeth Warren's added value tax or these insane ways that she's.
02:38:18.000It's all about electioneering for these people, it's all about elections.
02:38:23.000You know, if you want to make a paradigm shift happen to the country, it doesn't always begin with electoral politics, it begins with a conversation, with ideas.
02:38:32.000I thought this video was about conservatism explained, not Rob Smith, even though he's a homosexual and da da da, he can still vote Republican.
02:38:40.000I'm sorry, what does that have to do with the definition of conservatism?
02:38:44.000What is, you know, he says, well, you know, maybe you're more classical liberal and not religious, but we need them to win elections.
02:38:50.000Okay, but what does that have to do with the definition of conservatism?
02:38:53.000I mean, we do require coalitions in politics to win elections, but, you know, coalitions, you know, intrinsic in that word is that there are other factions, conservatives and non conservatives, right?
02:39:05.000But that's got nothing to do with the purpose of this video, allegedly.
02:39:10.000These wealth tax and trying to tax the classes, the wealthy classes, to pay for universal health care for people.
02:39:16.000If you look at the way that she's attacking people, and you look at the fact that if we want to win an election, we can show people, hey, you don't want this added tax on you.
02:39:24.000One of the suggestions to pay for Medicare for all is a $7,000 added tax on all individuals.
02:39:28.000So when you realize that most people want to keep their money, I can agree that a lot of Americans are more fiscally conservative, including Cardi B, who basically endorsed Bernie Sanders.
02:39:45.000And I'm using him as an example because he's the one that's most under attack.
02:39:49.000A constitutional conservative, of course, believes mostly in limiting the government, balancing the federal budget, of course, ending redistribution from wealthier to the poor, and assigning a central position to God in the lives of Americans, even in courthouses, and of course, asserting the right to free speech and to bear arms.
02:41:44.000Our Constitution says we're endowed by a creator with unalienable rights, which has taken on, I'm sure Elijah Schaefer would think, a universal idea.
02:41:55.000It's not the God of Christianity, but it's sort of just this oh, something out there, some transcendent creator, right?
02:42:26.000It's sort of a tricky thing because if you read Thomas Aquinas, certainly there are some, you know, there's this idea of natural rights or something, but in the American context, I think we've definitely lost that.
02:42:38.000I don't know if that, we could say that our Constitution fits the qualification.
02:42:42.000So this one's not as cut and dry as fiscal conservatism.
02:42:46.000But certainly, I would say that if you're a constitutionalist or you're a Republican, and small r Republican, you believe in republicanism, the idea of sovereignty of the people as opposed to of the sovereign, of a leader, I would say that that's not something that is necessarily conservative.
02:43:05.000There are liberal expressions of it, there are more conservative expressions of it.
02:43:09.000But I think in our context, again, the idea of a limited federal government, a balanced budget, Ending redistribution, so referring to the economic scheme of redistribution.
02:43:21.000This is, we know constitutionalism does not consider this, obviously.
02:43:26.000Free speech, gun rights, you know, free speech is a liberal idea.
02:43:41.000I would say I believe in the Constitution more or less, but I don't think it's fair to say that we can just have all these.
02:43:49.000It's not precise to say that we have all these different types of conservatives.
02:43:53.000You have people that believe that the Constitution is the most important thing.
02:43:55.000I think order is the most important thing.
02:43:57.000I would suspend the Constitution if it meant order.
02:44:01.000I would suspend the Constitution if it was wrong.
02:44:05.000If you're a constitutionalist or you're a constitutional conservative and you believe that the government derives legitimacy from the Constitution, well, then in order to make your changes, you have to go through constitutional conventions and all that.
02:44:19.000You know, whereas I don't necessarily believe that.
02:44:22.000I think, in a very pragmatic sense, that we derive our legitimacy from the Constitution, but I don't believe in the Constitution in itself.
02:44:32.000I don't necessarily believe in constitutionalism in itself.
02:45:00.000If you derive your natural rights from this, like, secularist, like, Kantian, or David Hume, or something like that, from some liberal Enlightenment perspective, in some secular way, well, that's totally different.
02:45:14.000Very different sort of natural rights doctrine.
02:45:16.000You know, in some sense, you could say that a communist, in some sense, believes in natural rights in a certain way, you know, or rights, this sort of rights thinking, rights rhetoric.
02:45:32.000He recognizes that chopping kids' dicks off with chemicals is not the route to go for our country.
02:45:37.000And of course, he also realizes as a comedian, not only does he want to keep his money fiscally, but of course, how is he going to actually have a job if so many people who are offended are trying to deplatform him off of his job or off the stage just because he says things they don't like, like making fun of transgenders?
02:45:54.000As if, why do we care if someone makes fun of transgenders?
02:46:23.000When someone had a mental disorder and believed they were in the wrong body and it was diagnosed as a real thing that could happen that required medical prognosis and diagnosis, that's serious.
02:46:48.000Because you've got to realize that a lot of people that are even fiscally conservative with their money are also constitutionally conservative in the fact that they care about the First Amendment.
02:46:57.000And like Dave Chappelle said, he said that you need to have the Second Amendment to preserve the First.
02:47:03.000And so when you look at this, Rob Smith, does Rob Smith need to be what?
02:48:55.000If all these different words are modifiers on top of conservatism, well, what is the fundamental idea that they're sort of, you know, that they're manifesting in their own way in a shade of that, right?
02:49:07.000If conservatism is its own thing and you're a fiscal conservative or a social conservative or constitutional conservative, there must be some commonalities here, right?
02:49:17.000If all these words are used to modify the same thing and we're determining, well, what does this word mean?
02:51:09.000There's no higher level thinking happening here.
02:51:12.000And it really promotes this disdain for anyone who doesn't follow this overly zealous religious lifestyle as being fake conservatives is false.
02:51:21.000But it doesn't negate the fact that there is a strong need for overly zealous, religious, and God fearing people in this country.
02:51:27.000Now, whether or not you want to make the debate of whether Rob Smith can be a gay Christian, can you practice homosexuality?
02:51:47.000But I also want to say that if you're going to single out people who practice homosexuality, then you've got to single out fornicators as well, liars.
02:51:54.000I mean, people who are having straight sex outside of marriage.
02:51:59.000Because if you're looking for moral retribution and to have this redemption, this authority, this autonomy replaced back in our country, then the hell.
02:52:05.000You've got to talk about it as an overarching syndrome, or else you do risk coming off homophobic with whether or not you believe you are.
02:52:44.000Struggling with sin, being repentant, you know, that's everybody, right?
02:52:48.000Everybody struggles with sins, and as long as you're repentant, you go to heaven, right?
02:52:53.000As long as you're well, and you have to be within the church and you have to have you have to be a state of grace.
02:52:58.000I mean, there's some other technicalities there, but point being, everybody sins, you repent, right?
02:53:05.000But we're not singling him out because he sins, we're singling him out because he goes around saying, I'm the gay black guy, you know, I'm the gay black conservative.
02:53:13.000If Charlie Kirk said, I'm the fornicator, right?
02:53:17.000If Charlie Kirk said, I am the one who bears false witness, that's me, that's my identity.
02:53:23.000We're so tolerant of people that bear a false witness.
02:53:25.000We want more people that are fornicators.
02:54:28.000Malicious stuff going on in the gay community that you should hate.
02:54:32.000I'm not, you know, somebody comes up and says, hi, you know, whatever, and they happen to be homosexual, I'm not going to say, oh, I hate you because of that.
02:54:40.000Because there's a lot of people living in sin for various reasons.
02:54:43.000So, and it's, again, it's not to excuse that.
02:54:46.000But all this is to say, oh, you run the risk of sounding homophobic.
02:55:39.000Look, you can be black and the things we're saying resonate.
02:55:43.000You can be black and understand what we're saying about demographic change.
02:55:46.000You could be gay and understand what we're saying about homosexuality, by the way.
02:55:51.000You know, I think intrinsic in all of this is that, you know, on some level, people's lifestyles affect what they believe in everything.
02:56:00.000But on another level, you know, there's this maybe there's an issue of hypocrisy or something, but.
02:56:06.000I've had people come up to me at various events and they're non white and they love my show.
02:56:11.000And it's because you don't have to be white to understand the things that we're saying about white people or the nation or order or whatever else.
02:56:19.000You don't even have to be Catholic to understand what we're saying about Catholicism.
02:56:22.000You know, JF, I did shows with him, the guys that are cringe, like atheist libertarian, and he agrees with me that atheists have a real problem of establishing objective morality in the absence of a transcendent power that establishes it, right?
02:56:46.000Like, well, black people can also agree with us too.
02:56:49.000You know, it kind of doesn't really matter.
02:56:51.000We're talking about ideas, not the people that espouse them.
02:56:55.000Whether or not you think the LGBTQ movement has gone too far, which it has, it's kind of gotten really disgusting, it's gotten very degenerate.
02:57:03.000Nobody likes these gay pride parades or thinks they're good for our communities or our country.
02:57:07.000But if you're going to think that, you know what, hey, my ultimate goal of a gay person is going to tell them, you're not welcome here, you're not real, rather than, hey, have you heard the truth?
02:57:23.000If your ultimate goal is to condemn and to push them out, you've created a right wing mob that is no better, no better than the left wing mob.
02:57:32.000Here we go again with the moral relativism.
02:57:51.000Takes up arms to hunt down this vile person and take him out.
02:57:56.000On the other side, you've got a left wing mob of Antifa that's going into a Catholic church and destroying crucifixes and spray painting and, you know, killing people in the church.
03:01:19.000You know, you can be a sinner and be nice, I guess.
03:01:24.000You can be corrupted or disordered and be a nice person and, you know, be friendly.
03:01:29.000I can treat that person with dignity or respect.
03:01:32.000If he wants to make that choice, I'm really a lot less concerned about the state of his soul than what he and worse, Charlie Kirk is promoting.
03:01:39.000Charlie Kirk is a Christian who's against homosexuals.
03:01:42.000Why is he bringing him on the stage to talk to young people to try to normalize this?
03:01:50.000It's not to say that homosexuals don't exist or that they won't even be in the movement, but they're on the stage as unrepentant and talking about it like it's a good thing.
03:02:30.000Why do we have a so called Christian conservative movement promoting degeneracy to young people?
03:02:35.000You can have homosexuals, just don't have them on the stage talking to all the young people and they're trying to normalize this stuff.
03:02:44.000I don't know what people believe in their heart of hearts, but we have to know what they're saying.
03:02:48.000Because what's becoming is you get this iconoclastic group.
03:02:50.000Of right wingers who are creating this ultra nationalistic, immigrant centered, white centered view of what America is and should be.
03:02:59.000And if you don't fall into their ultimate conservative views, not only are you a traitor, you're about the destruction of your own race, you're looking against God and the people of this country, and they throw you out.
03:03:28.000We are trying to embrace the big tent.
03:03:30.000If you're talking about the Groypers, and I'm the largest Groyper, I'm the biggest mouth of the Groypers, and this is just objectively true, I'm here to say that we're willing to be in a big tent movement with other people.
03:03:45.000But don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
03:03:48.000You want to have a homosexual on the stage?
03:04:57.000We are coming to have a good faith conversation as a faction that has been, what would you say, shut out, blacklisted, oppressed, silenced for decades.
03:05:10.000And we're being thrown out because we don't meet the ideological test.
03:05:16.000But we're willing to be in a coalition with a lot of people.
03:05:18.000We're willing to ally with other people.
03:05:21.000Like Scott Greer is a perfect example.
03:05:53.000And even Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Andrew Clavin, if they weren't so dishonest and nasty, I think we could be in a coalition with them because they're Catholic and they oppose degeneracy and so on.
03:06:06.000And even if they don't see eye to eye 100% on immigration, they're mostly there.
03:06:12.000The problem is that they think that because we don't fit their definition, we have to be shut down.
03:06:23.000And therefore, because the right has expanded, some people wanting to see it in what they believe is its purest form have created this fringe right that people would call.
03:06:32.000And they will throw you out if you're not on their side.
03:06:33.000And here's what I have to say about that right side I agree with you.
03:06:39.000I believe we're not tough enough on immigration.
03:06:41.000I believe legal immigration in some cases is damaging.
03:06:45.000Especially when we start competing internally in our own country with foreign nationals who graduate from our universities and are given green cards essentially and the right to work in this country.
03:06:54.000Of course, at the benefit of the company who doesn't have to pay these enrollment and taxes on foreigners, so they have a financial incentive to hire these foreigners over our own graduates.
03:07:47.000Do you understand that there's a Gallup poll?
03:07:50.000That shows that only 34% or 30 to 34% of Americans describe their views even as conservative, which means that only one third of the country is even conservative.
03:07:59.000And so, if your ultimate goal is to attract conservatives who oftentimes are in support of Israel, maybe the best optics aren't to always be shitting on Israel.
03:08:10.000The Holocaust joke, you know, it's funny when, who is it, Kevin Hart makes a joke about beating the shit out of his son, Elijah Schaffer has a smirk and says, oh, maybe you think that's not tasty.
03:11:25.000You're going to tell me about what the best look is, what the best strategy is.
03:11:29.000Optics does not mean that you don't ever tell jokes and you have a very sterilized corporate view.
03:11:37.000Optics means that you create a presentation and rhetoric that is persuasive.
03:11:43.000Inside of optics is considerations about maybe you say something outrageous, maybe you say something that could be controversial or misconstrued or whatever.
03:11:53.000You know, I talked to somebody from Washington, D.C. last week, very good friend of mine.
03:11:57.000Don't want to go into a lot of details, but he's sort of a marketing guy, marketing guru sort of a guy.
03:12:02.000He's a total, like, guy's got a serious job.
03:13:04.000On top of that, you have to realize, too, that constantly saying that we're not.
03:13:08.000Ethnocentric, we're not white nationalists, not white supremacists.
03:13:11.000Fine, maybe people have mislabeled you when you don't condemn those people who are white nationalists and white supremacists in your ranks.
03:13:18.000Makes you seem like you're flirting with the idea.
03:15:07.000Because, yes, I don't think everybody who's about immigration, these things that's going a part of this other group that is tired of what's going on in Conservative Inc., is a white supremacist and white nationalist.
03:15:16.000I think there's a lot of people tired of the fakeness, the phoniness, and the lack of transparency in these establishment players, the gatekeeping.
03:15:24.000But if we want to push these issues as social conservatives, of course, if we really, this third group, care about what matters in this nation, about our faith and tradition and these things that are important to us, then you've got to ask yourself the question why are you going to let people hijack it who do things like say, you know, women shouldn't vote?
03:16:37.000And if you're going to sit there and say, I'm flirting with white nationalism and I'm homophobic, well, you know, I'm going to say it's just a load of nonsense.
03:16:48.000You know, really, the 19th Amendment, I mean, certainly there's some truth in there, but largely it's, you know, there's a deliberate strategy behind that.
03:17:12.000It's like, well, he's the president of the United States.
03:17:14.000Maybe you'll learn something from that.
03:17:16.000Did he implement a total Muslim ban or did he say that and get coverage and people see him as strong on that issue and it resonates and okay?
03:17:34.000It's hard being the smartest guy in the world.
03:17:36.000I hear about issues that are important to my heart, like abortion and sex education.
03:17:40.000By the way, no one even voted for same sex marriage.
03:17:42.000That was just kind of put on us by the Supreme Court.
03:17:45.000And when you look at all these ideas, they care about not just having freedom, but having freedom with tradition and value.
03:17:50.000The social conservatives balance out the fiscal conservatives.
03:17:53.000Because if you're a fiscal conservative and you believe in free market laissez faire, and you start shipping jobs overseas at the detriment of your own people, if you start taking advantage of your own citizens, that's a problem.
03:18:04.000But of course, if you have nationalism, you care about American exceptionalism and tradition, then you build in a free economy at the strength of your nation, not at its detriment.
03:18:12.000That also goes as well for constitutional conservatives.
03:18:15.000If you believe in just freedom of amendments to say whatever you want, and you don't love your fellow neighbors, if you don't care about people and what develops in their life, and you just say things and cutting remarks, you speak crassly and degrading to individuals, if you say things that are insensitive on purpose just to piss people off, then of course you're not living with tradition, with value.
03:18:34.000And so, yes, social conservatives are vital, they are important, but they're not enough to win elections.
03:18:39.000And I wish in this argument between the two.
03:18:49.000What is the excess of social conservatism?
03:18:52.000He says, well, fiscal, you know, neoliberals ship jobs overseas.
03:18:56.000Oh, sounds like the solution to that is nationalism, right?
03:19:00.000Sounds like the solution to that is communities, right?
03:19:07.000Are you telling me there's negative externalities to fiscal conservatism that are solved if you interpret some of the similar issues through the lens of actual conservatism?
03:19:19.000In other words, You know, you could be conservative and adhere to property rights and trade and things like that, but it's meant to serve the people.
03:19:51.000Liberalism is a flawed ideology, and it is an ideology.
03:19:55.000The answer is a holistic conservative worldview that has property rights and trade, and perhaps a bill of rights, some degree of legalism, but directed and geared towards something higher.
03:20:10.000It's almost like that's what conservatism is.
03:20:48.000Fiscal conservatism, in other words, liberalism is hollow and empty and hurts America.
03:20:52.000Constitutionalism can be hollow and empty and degenerates.
03:20:56.000But social conservatism just doesn't have the votes.
03:21:01.000Maybe if we tried to win the votes, maybe if we tried to convince people, persuade people, maybe if we had actual arguments, you know, we were fighting tooth and nail like the left is.
03:21:11.000We answered their moral framework with a moral framework of our own.
03:21:16.000We answered their worldview with a worldview of our own.
03:21:19.000We answered their metaphysics with our own metaphysics.
03:23:03.000Oh, so even though I conceded on all the rest, well, because you don't know what to do going forward exactly, well, you're wrong about everything.
03:23:50.000Groups that we would recognize and realize that this battle is not just about being the best conservative.
03:23:56.000Because if you do that, you will find yourself quickly being just as bad in the left as you ostracize many people who see most of the views you do eye to eye that are needed to push an already fragile election in 2020.
03:24:19.000The only reason we're being ostracized is because people are deliberately trying to do that, or people think that they should be alienated, right?
03:24:30.000What I mean by that is we're not alienating anybody with what we're doing, we're winning people over.
03:24:36.000People see what's going on, they get interested, they hear the arguments, they want to jump on board.
03:24:42.000But you have two kinds of people people like Ben Shapiro who lie about us, and they deliberately defame us and ignore us for obvious reasons, you know, self interest.
03:24:53.000That they want a monopoly on the conversation.
03:24:56.000They want a monopoly on the definition of conservatism.
03:24:59.000They see us as political enemies and ideological enemies.
03:25:03.000So, we, by virtue of what we're doing and saying, is not alienating anybody.
03:26:08.000So, if people like you could step out of the way, right?
03:26:14.000If you could call out the liars and you could not think you're supposed to feel offended or whatever, then I think we could reach more hearts and minds.
03:26:22.000But it's thinking like this, thinking like that, thinking like that, which is why we've been in the Middle East for 15 years and we haven't won anything.
03:26:55.000I'm tired of watching this infighting, and of course, I didn't explain everything.
03:26:59.000But of course, this fighting between really who's the true conservative.
03:27:02.000I would say that within the groups, there are both good conservative people that really do love the country, and there are bad players.
03:27:09.000I would say in Conservative Inc., the bad players are these snarky and slimy politician like people who are grifting in the movement, who are trying to take advantage.
03:27:16.000E girls, people like that, take pictures with guns and go, pew, pew, pew, I have titties, you know, vote Republican.
03:27:22.000It's like, oh, shut the hell up, Tiffany, you know, that's not even a real person.
03:27:35.000But also when you have like Identity Europa, when you have these people who really don't believe that America's for anybody but white people, you need to call that out too.
03:27:43.000When you have people that are just, you know, they love focusing on Israel at the detriment of what?
03:27:47.000Not talking about Iran and Chinese other countries, call them out because here's what happens.
03:27:52.000You need to realize that you know what's worse than grifters?
03:27:55.000First of all, I did call that on my show this week, actually.
03:28:54.000Also, making sure that you realize that with the group that you go into, you go into it based on the issues and not based off of team sports.
03:29:03.000Don't go into one group because of Charlie Kirk, because of anybody, and don't go against it because of them.
03:29:08.000Don't go into this group because of Nick J. Fuentes or these people.
03:29:10.000Realize that in the midst of these groups, see what the truth is, try to understand it, and call out bad players when they're there.
03:29:17.000Stick to your convictions and realize in the end, what do you care about your team winning or do you care about the country winning?
03:29:24.000By getting the best next option in office, which, if you don't think it's Donald Trump, who?
03:29:34.000She can break it down, but she's also going to break down our entire country, I believe.
03:29:37.000And of course, we do wish Hillary Clinton would come into office.
03:29:39.000She's under pressure by many, many people.
03:29:42.000I'm going to let you guys know, I didn't say everything today.
03:29:44.000If you want to look up more on your own about what's going on between this cultural war between these two factions on the right and understanding what it means to be conservative, I'll let you know there are those three types.
03:29:53.000Some things not mentioned today are, of course, neocons, which I do not believe are great for the country.
03:30:48.000And be able to be civil and say, you know what?
03:30:50.000At least at the most part, we are fighting for the same things.
03:30:53.000And I wish that young people would realize that if we don't stop what we're doing, if we don't get on board together, Not only are our votes not going to count, they're not going to matter, and we are going to lose the election and maybe even lose our great country.
03:31:05.000My name is Elijah Schaefer, the host of Slightly Offensive, your favorite gay black woman, recording, not live, but recording out of the studios in Irving, Texas here at Mercury One Blaze Media.
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03:31:18.000I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of crap in the comments by people because they are part of the internet.
03:31:25.000Plus, you guys really, really like to leave me nasty comments.
03:31:28.000Go ahead, flood the comments, do whatever you want.
03:42:42.000After a chain of events, Nick Fuentes was booted from the convention and went to social media and to his platform to rile up his base and essentially start a war against the conservative movement.
03:43:25.000All culminated in an AMA where Rob Smith and Charlie Kirk defended themselves against a swarm of Groypers asking questions ranging from everything from 9 11 conspiracy theories involving the Jews to the effects of immigration to Whether or not they were actually conservatives and actually Christians for supporting the LGBT movement.
03:43:50.000From my perspective, Charlie and Rob were a bit taken aback and overwhelmed by the question.
03:43:59.000And the movement online has only since become emboldened by the AMA and been used as evidence that the conservative movement is not working within the best interest of conservatives.
03:44:14.000Nick's criticisms of Charlie Kirk have essentially been him calling him a grifter and saying that Charlie is more concerned with money and fame than he is with actually building out a conservative movement that represents conservative people.
03:44:29.000You know, personally, in terms of Nick, I'd always kind of underestimated the dude.
03:44:34.000I watched the debates he did with Destiny, I've watched some of his content before, and I never really thought much of the guy.
03:44:40.000I thought he was just, you know, another right wing grifter or just another right wing personality that didn't really need to be taken that seriously.
03:44:47.000But I think recent events have kind of shown otherwise.
03:44:50.000Nick's position within the far right has actually been pretty interesting if you look at it.
03:44:55.000He's positioned himself, what he's done essentially is position himself between the very extremes of the far right and between the conservative movement, acting as almost a springboard.
03:45:06.000Whereas someone like Stefan Molyneux or Lawrence Southern dog whistle a lot to the far right, Nick is a much more direct intermediary where he can funnel people from the conservative movement into ethno nationalism, white nationalism, which Nick is.
03:45:25.000Self avowed means you say that you're whatever.
03:45:29.000I am not a self avowed white nationalist.
03:45:31.000Be a springboard from softer ideologies into more extreme ideologies much more quickly and, to be honest, much more honestly than a figure like Molyneux or Southern.
03:45:42.000The reason he's had to position himself in the middle is for a couple reasons.
03:45:46.000So, with the alt right, they really didn't take him in.
03:45:49.000I mean, from what I understand, it was because his name, Fuentes, and the fact that he shares Hispanic heritage.
03:45:57.000And from what I understand, the conservative movement didn't really want anything to do with him.
03:46:48.000Self avowed white nationalists, people have a problem with my heritage in the alt right.
03:46:53.000You know, the convention, the Culture War convention, AMA, everything in this is just factually wrong.
03:47:01.000Because of his ties to white nationalism and because of his.
03:47:06.000Criticisms of Israel, which are very much a no no within the conservative movement.
03:47:10.000So, because of this positioning, he's become a very unique figure.
03:47:16.000Now, interestingly, another figure that was at the AMA was Patrick Casey, who is the head of the American Identity Movement.
03:47:24.000Now, if you've been paying attention for long, you know that the American Identity Movement is a rebranding of Identity Europa, a neo Nazi organization essentially, that was very active at Charlottesville and was very active.
03:47:36.000During the Trump campaign, they eventually saw a rebranding and took a big hit after Charlottesville because it was shown that they had leaked Discord messages showing a lot of their anti Semitism, a lot of their racism.
03:48:37.000Patrick Casey and the American identity movement have always been part of this optics debate within the far right, which is do we be self avowed white nationalists and be very on the nose about it?
03:48:50.000And this would be the Richard Spencer and the Mike Enoch camp.
03:48:53.000Or do we concern ourselves with optics?
03:48:56.000And do we try to redress our movement?
03:48:58.000Do we try to paint ourselves as patriots?
03:49:00.000And do we try to co opt the conservative movement to fit our needs, to push our message, and to embolden our numbers?
03:49:08.000New allegiance between the Patrick Casey's and the Nick Fuentes's as being.
03:49:13.000And now, instead of turning their attention to the left and attacking the left, they're really starting to turn their attention to the conservative movement.
03:49:22.000This is just mischaracterizing the optics debate.
03:49:25.000The optics debate was not simply about how we're going to dress.
03:49:34.000The optics debate was never about misleading people about our views.
03:49:39.000We are significantly different from the alt-right, Richard Spencer, Michael Enoch, in a lot of ways, which I outlined on the show this week.
03:49:49.000You could talk about religion, where we differ, talk about this ethnostate idea.
03:49:54.000We are against it, they're in favor of it.
03:49:59.000Gun control, Richard Spencer supports.
03:50:13.000We think America's going to persist and so on.
03:50:16.000So there's not insignificant differences.
03:50:18.000The point was as dissident rightists, what are we going to try to do?
03:50:23.000We have to present ourselves well, we have to choose our words carefully.
03:50:27.000Because the argument from these people was, you know, you shouldn't care about how you look.
03:50:32.000You know, whatever you say, they're going to call you alt right.
03:50:35.000And our argument was, well, we're not alt right.
03:50:37.000And if we have the right presentation, people won't believe we're alt right, right?
03:50:41.000When the media slanders us, right wing people, normal people, if we have the right look, they're not going to buy into the dishonesty, right?
03:50:51.000You know, it's a lot easier because they said, oh, it's futile for you to try to differentiate because no matter what, you'll be considered the worst.
03:51:13.000I think that they're going to see a lot of success with pulling conservatives into the far right through this method.
03:51:19.000Because essentially what they're doing is, I mean, first of all, they're using a lot of tactics that they use against the left.
03:51:23.000They're using gaslighting, they're using name calling.
03:51:26.000They've taken to calling the conservative movement conservative ink, you know, saying that they are only concerned with money and these things.
03:51:32.000And while I can see some truth to that, it's the same type of name calling and branding that we saw Donald Trump do.
03:51:40.000He concedes it's true, but then he's like, oh, it's name calling.
03:51:43.000Well, it's true, though, but he concedes it's true.
03:51:46.000And I think it's a tactic that Trump really, you know, helped people focus on within the far right.
03:51:51.000And so now they're basically taking all those tactics that the conservative movement had created and turning it against them and pulling people into a new movement that is much further to the right.
03:52:02.000Right, and has direct ties to white nationalism.
03:52:05.000And also, what they're doing is they're painting.
03:52:07.000There are no direct ties to white nationalism.
03:52:10.000Nobody in our Groyper thing is tied to white nationalism at all.
03:52:16.000The conservatives are cringy and as out of touch and not relevant with the younger generations.
03:52:24.000Nick Fuentes' fan base is largely Zoomers.
03:52:29.000So, my concern and what I see happening is that they will be successful in this.
03:52:34.000While the While the alt right dissolves, continues to dissolve in post Charlottesville drama, the optics move is going to be a little bit more.
03:52:44.000People are saying they want me to skip this guy.
03:52:46.000You asked for him, and now you're saying you want me to skip him.
03:54:11.000Been having his Groypers go into TPUSA events and causing a lot of disruption, asking a lot of very edgy, controversial questions, and causing the conservatives to kind of go into a frenzy.
03:54:23.000Now, I said some things in that video that were apparently untrue, and then apparently I got the timeline a little mixed up.
03:54:31.000Now, the timeline I'm not super concerned about because my audience isn't super concerned about that event.
03:54:36.000We just kind of want the rough overdraft.
03:54:39.000But one of the things that I said in there that apparently was not true is that what Nick Fuentes is a white nationalist.
03:54:47.000There's music in this video, so I gotta.
03:54:50.000Apparently, Nick Fuentes disavows white nationalism and does not consider himself a white nationalist.
03:55:11.000And that's kind of the problem with these far right groups now the overlap between them becomes so blurred that it becomes hard to tell who's who.
03:55:20.000No, it's because people like you fucking lie.
03:55:23.000He's like, oh, well, I thought he was a white nationalist, but I was wrong.
03:55:28.000And the problem is that they're all just so closely connected.
03:55:30.000The problem is, people like you fucking lie.
03:55:33.000You know, it's people like Jared Holt, who I think Jared Holt talked to this guy.
03:55:48.000The problem is not that we are too closely together, it's that you don't do your research.
03:55:52.000You, you know, people like you lie about us.
03:55:56.000Yeah, it's almost like calling everyone a white nationalist is, you know, dishonest and would cause problems with understanding.
03:56:03.000On top of that, a lot of these groups, a lot of the people within these movements are just straight up liars and they're not honest about their positions in the first place.
03:56:10.000I mean, one only needs to look at the recent stream on Adam Friended and PSA Sitch where No Bullshit came on and tried to tell people that he'd never heard of the alt right, white nationalism wasn't a real thing, and that he's never been a white nationalist or alt right or alt like.
03:56:25.000And for anybody that hasn't seen that stream, I suggest go checking it out.
03:56:28.000Now, of course, Nick does talk about wanting the country to remain majority European.
03:56:32.000Demographic shifts are undeniably something that he talks about all the time, and it was one of the main Question to ask during the TPUSA events.
03:56:39.000Now, of course, the question becomes do those demographic shifts really matter?
03:56:43.000Now, I'm sure if you're afraid of people voting Democrat, sure, I guess that's an existential threat to you.
03:56:48.000But in terms of the country actually falling apart because we have non white people coming in, I'm just going to call bullshit on that.
03:56:55.000If you've ever spent time in minority communities, you're going to know that these aren't like the destitute, horrible conditions that everybody tries to make them out to be.
03:57:05.000Of course, there's problem communities, of course, there's crime ridden communities.
03:57:09.000And of course, you know, there's always going to be problems with this in terms of immigration.
03:57:14.000And these are problems we have to work on.
03:57:15.000But for the most part, when you meet immigrants, they're hardworking people.
03:57:19.000They contribute a lot to the country in terms of culture, in terms of labor.
03:58:24.000And beyond that, when you factor in the long term fiscal impact per immigrant, which is $119,000, $119,000 times $60 million, I mean, that completely drowns out the $50 billion.
03:58:36.000Divide the $50 billion by the 300 million people in the country.
03:58:40.000You know, if there's 300 million people in the country, would be what?
03:58:46.000So that would mean that there would be $150 per person.
03:58:53.000The total gain to GDP for native peoples is roughly $150 per person.
03:58:59.000$50 billion in a country of 300 million people, that's the benefit to GDP.
03:59:04.000$150 per person is the net gain in GDP.
03:59:10.000And destroy the social fabric, destroy the cohesiveness of the nation, the tradition, and all that for $150 per person.
03:59:18.000You could literally just work a few hours overtime if everyone did that, and it would be the equivalent, right?
03:59:24.000About the kind of after effects of that, well, then that's why we need, you know, that's why we need good taxation to redistribute the gains from some of these companies that benefit from immigration the most.
03:59:34.000Now, to me, a lot of these quote unquote distinctions between the Groypers and the alt right inevitably are just irrelevant.
03:59:41.000When you're looking at a group of people that spread anti Semitic conspiracy theories, when you're looking at a figurehead like Fuentes, which goes on his show and tells Holocaust denial jokes, I don't see the big difference.
04:01:22.000Yeah, I was talking about that earlier today because, of course, there was a big hit piece about me in Right Wing Watch by Jared Holt.
04:01:29.000We're all a big fan of Jared Holt around here because I attended the American Renaissance Conference this weekend.
04:01:37.000And, you know, the reason I wouldn't call myself a white nationalist is not because I don't see the necessity for white people to have a homeland and for white people to have a country.
04:01:49.000I think that kind of terminology is used almost exclusively by the left to defame.
04:01:55.000And I think the terminology and the labels that we use, I don't think we can look at them outside of the context of their connotations in America.
04:02:03.000Whereas maybe it might be descriptive to call somebody a white nationalist, I think it sort of loses something when an average person hears that and it's almost synonymous with Nazi or villain or whatever.
04:02:16.000And so I would say I'm a white person.
04:02:18.000I'm conscious of my white identity, conscious of.
04:02:21.000Nationalism, but I think in a way it's almost redundant to say that you're a white nationalist.
04:02:25.000We know that the word nation almost implicitly talks about ethnicity and biology.
04:02:32.000If you go back to the history of the word, a nation is not synonymous with country or state.
04:02:40.000So I think if I call myself a nationalist, it's almost implicit in that word that it's, well, you know, America does have a heritage of being a European country.
04:02:50.000So a little bit about the wording, because I know a lot of people.
04:02:54.000Would be confused by that, but that's really how I see myself.
04:03:29.000The word white nationalist, if the connotation is Nazi, whatever, the purpose of that term is to defame somebody and make them less credible or legitimate, it loses all its denotative meaning, right?
04:03:45.000It has no words like racist, white supremacist, white nationalist, they have only connotations, they have no denotation.
04:03:52.000Nobody can tell me exactly what these words mean.
04:03:55.000Nobody can tell me what is a neo Nazi, what is a white nationalist, what is a white supremacist, what is a racist.
04:04:00.000Now, people have their ideas of the connotations.
04:04:57.000It's because I talk about white people and I talk about white identity.
04:05:01.000You can say I'm a white identitarian, that's descriptive.
04:05:04.000And a word about the word nation, it's to say that a nationalist, intrinsically in this word, there is something about heritage.
04:05:12.000It doesn't mean, again, a nationalist is not the same as the scare word, which only has connotations.
04:05:18.000And I said, you know, maybe there's a definition of white nationalist that is an ethnostate or something like that.
04:05:23.000But there's something intrinsic in nationalist, in the word nation, that there's an ethnic component.
04:05:29.000Now, that does not necessitate that we create a white nation or we kick out all the non whites or you can only be white to be in the country.
04:05:36.000But it means that part of a country, at least on some level, maybe for the majority of the people, is shared ancestry in some capacity.
04:05:45.000A shared people, shared experiences, shared history, which was the point of that video.
04:05:51.000But let's see what he has to say about it.
04:05:53.000That the Groypers are trying to draw between themselves and the white nationalists, the alt right, to me it really doesn't matter that much.
04:05:59.000The inevitable end game of their policies will be white nationalism.
04:06:03.000It will be locking down the borders and ensuring that only Europeans come in, which they are going to classify as white people.
04:06:09.000It's also the reason the distinctions don't matter to me that much, is because they spread all this.
04:06:51.000And of course, the distinction is, moreover, that a white nationalist banned, deplatformed, blah, blah, blah, you know, no matter what they say, and not, you know, you don't get that.
04:07:02.000Same conspiracy theories as the alt right does.
04:07:05.000They talk about white replacement, they talk about white genocide.
04:07:09.000So does The Washington Post, so does The New York Times.
04:07:13.000Replacement is not controversial, replacement is something acknowledged by everybody in the press.
04:07:19.000When we say it, it's a conspiracy theory.
04:07:22.000When we say, and it's mathematic, it's arithmetic, right?
04:07:29.000The idea that white people in this country have lower fertility rates than non white people and that immigration is almost all non white, Bloomberg called it demographic refreshment.
04:07:51.000But demographic refreshment, in other words, we're going to make up for the decline in the white population due to low white fertility rates with immigration and high non white fertility rates.
04:08:03.000You know, we're replacing the population.
04:08:05.000Those that should have been born as white will be replaced by immigrants.
04:08:13.000But the differences don't matter, right?
04:08:15.000New York Times says Virginia went blue because of mass immigration.
04:09:41.000You know, they came out talking about how they're not white nationalists, they're not white supremacists, they're just identitarians, and they just want to talk about the issues.
04:12:19.000And just because probably everyone you know calls himself a white nationalist doesn't mean that implicitly he isn't.
04:12:25.000For anybody, though, that considers themselves alt right and you still want to argue about whether or not Richard Spencer is anti Semitic or whether or not he's just a rebranding of a neo Nazi, I just wanted to actually play that clip for you, that recent clip of him.
04:12:41.000And so for anybody watching this that is a bit sensitive, maybe you might want to fast forward through this video a little bit.
04:14:33.000So, yeah, I mean, it's just like the alt right.
04:14:35.000What are we going to have another rally where you go to Charlottesville and Someone dies, and then a rant comes out, and it's like Charlottesville really like you really need this.
04:16:32.000That's the only reason you would oppose that?
04:16:35.000How about we fill up your house with minorities, right?
04:16:38.000How about we go to Humboldt Park in Chicago and we go to Little Village in Chicago and we get one of those Mercedes vans and we fill it up with people from the South Side and the West Side.
04:16:54.000And we go to your house and we let, you know, 24 strangers who are in the most violent neighborhoods in the country and we'll just let them stay at your house.
04:19:03.000In the epicenter of where this is happening.
04:19:06.000You love the immigration so much, if we're full of hate and you're so full of love, come to Chicago and I will go down 290 and we'll get off on Sacramento and we'll drive through West Garfield Park where the shooting rate is 400 and we'll drive through that neighborhood where the murder rate is 120.
04:19:26.000We'll go there at dusk on the weekend with the car doors unlocked.
04:20:11.000Are you willing to roll back people's civil rights?
04:20:14.000What measures will you take in order to preserve the demographics of your country?
04:20:17.000If you're not willing to go on some mass violent spree or implement laws which would reel back the liberty of citizens, what measures could we take?
04:20:30.000Finally, regarding all this stuff with Israel, is it possible to criticize Israel without going in a comment section and posting anti Semitic slurs, calling people Jew boys?
04:20:39.000Calling people plants by Mossad and going off on weird 9 11 conspiracies?
04:20:52.000When he says, obviously, this guy didn't Google dancing Israelis.
04:20:55.000Because if he did, he would find the Freedom of Information Act request that showed official government documents talking about dancing Israelis.
04:21:50.000First 20 minutes or so is a little weak, but it starts to present some real evidence.
04:21:54.000You know, you should see what happened on 9 11, man.
04:21:57.000Like, on 9 11, they were running like this huge drill for the Air Force so that there were only four fighter jets in the whole northeastern part of the United States that were available to defend the country.
04:22:14.000Four fighter jets to defend the whole northeastern corridor of the country or quadrant of the country.
04:22:20.000So that's Chicago, D.C., New York, Boston, you know, most of the Midwest and the East Coast.
04:22:26.000Four fighter jets because they had this big.
04:22:31.000And they say that that drill interfered with their readiness.
04:22:34.000They said that if you looked at the chain of command for scrambling fighter jets, and I only got so far in the documentary, so I don't have everything, but they said if you look at the chain of command for how they would respond to a civilian airliner being hijacked, it's like almost everybody involved in the chain of command from seeing a civilian airliner deviating from their course to scrambling fighter jets, like one of these guys.
04:23:49.000Conspiracy theory is just like white nationalist, it's another one of these made up words that only exists through connotations to discredit ideas that the mainstream doesn't like.
04:24:00.000They're conspiracy facts, not conspiracy theories.
04:24:07.000Nine months ago, that was a conspiracy theory that Jeffrey Epstein was running a pedophile human trafficking ring and he was in bed with different world governments and big finance people and Hollywood celebrities until we found out it was all true, right?
04:24:24.000But that was a conspiracy theory, even though everybody knew about this.
04:24:28.000The Lolita Express, the island, conspiracy theory, which means tinfoil hat, not serious, not credible.
04:24:40.000And the same is true with dancing Israelis.
04:24:42.000Can you criticize Israel without engaging in weird conspiracy theories?
04:24:46.000You mean the Freedom of Information Act request, which shows official government documents that say that there were Israelis dancing on rooftops that seemed to be prepared?
04:24:57.000In other words, had prior knowledge of the attacks and were filming it and were celebrating and were arrested and seen by police officers and witnesses?
04:25:17.000Criticize Israel without engaging in all that stuff?
04:25:20.000Is it possible to be on the left and criticize Israel?
04:25:23.000Because I see people on the left that criticize Israel all the time.
04:25:26.000And so, do you need all this neo Nazi baggage to criticize policies that Israel has or to criticize the foreign aid that we give to the government of Israel?
04:25:35.000I know that was a lot of questions, but if you're watching this and you're in the Groyper movement or you're an alt rider, please rewind the video and jot down your answers in the comment section below.
04:25:44.000And I'll read them, and then maybe we can even correspond.
04:26:00.000Because if I was running a YouTube channel, and I know you guys like to talk about the drag kid all the time, that drag kid Desmond all the time, whose parents are exploiting him.
04:26:09.000I know you guys like to talk about that all the time.
04:26:11.000And as someone who's on the left, I don't support that.
04:27:18.000And if I saw people in my comment section doing that, talking about that, or making jokes about that, or if I saw people in my comment section making guillotine memes, If I had an exorbitant amount of communists, for example, accelerationist communists in my channel that were, you know, making memes like that and jokes like that and going on to other people's comment threads and making jokes like that, I'd get rid of those people.
04:28:11.000When people are saying, though, the Wignat acceleration stuff, I don't do it in a sanctimonious way where I say, oh, I'm so offended and this is gross and disgusting.
04:28:21.000But I say why it's ridiculous and not Christian.
04:29:52.000Nick can say he's not a white nationalist all he wants, but when he's going and giving speeches at American Renaissance, when he's got neo Nazis hanging out in his chat, when he's doing cookie monster jokes about the Holocaust, I mean, I don't know what I'm supposed to get from this.
04:31:21.000I know this video went on a little bit longer than they normally do.
04:31:24.000And I'm going to roll some clips here at the end of some things that Nick has said that kind of contradict, in my opinion, his claims that he's not a white nationalist.
04:31:32.000But, you know, if Nick says he's not a white nationalist, if he says that he's just an American nationalist, you know, fair enough.
04:31:37.000At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.
04:35:29.000Oh, these people, it's like if they just talk to me, they would realize.
04:35:33.000But that's why they won't talk to me, because I would just expose them as liars, because I'm a genius, and I know all the tricks in the book, and I know exactly what to say.
04:35:44.000So they make these concern trolling videos where they say, Whoa, that's scary.
04:35:49.000But if anybody actually fucking talked to me, and it was just unfiltered, and people just hear my views, that's why they fear me, because they know that.
04:41:37.000Don't you love, don't you just love, don't you just love when you've had some good burgers in your time and you love a good melted Swiss cheese and roasted mushrooms and caramelized onions on a burger?
04:57:33.000Yeah, uh, Richard, that's not the kind of humor that we do on this show.
04:57:39.000Sorry, it's just, uh, been kind of a rough week ever since I had that burger with Melton Swiss cheese, roasted mushrooms, and caramelized onions.
05:13:36.000That it's hard to explain, but it's like sometimes it distorts, though it only captures some of the window, and so it's like the cursor will look like it's in one place on the stream when it's in another place on the game.
05:13:53.000That's really only a problem, I guess, for Civ 5, but for this game it really doesn't matter because you don't have a cursor, but it looks like it fixed itself anyway.
05:24:37.000Should I do submachine gun this time or what should I change my class maybe?
05:24:43.000I Feel like I've had less success with this class, but you know, whatever I should have probably been there to take Charlie Would have been more points ah shit Yo hesitation Okay,
05:25:08.000we got some oh another fucking shield fag like there's someone behind me Something right on top of me, yeah.
06:13:21.000This game really does feel like the old Modern Warfare 2.
06:13:27.000It's a real return to form for them, because every other intervening game between, like, probably Black Ops 2 and this one has just been, like, stupid.