America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - How the Trump Doctrine Will Change The World | America First Ep. 88

00:00:06.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:07.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:08.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:13.000 Despite many things going on in the world, despite many things going on in my world, we are here as we are every night with a great show for you.

00:00:22.000 There is much to talk about.

00:00:24.000 Now, again, I don't know what's going on.

00:00:27.000 It seems like everybody has an off day this week.

00:00:30.000 Not much going on in the news.

00:00:32.000 We were supposed to see the fake news awards today, and I was.

00:00:36.000 Very disappointed that we didn't see any movement on that.

00:00:40.000 No scheduling for that.

00:00:42.000 And of course, no fake news awards today.

00:00:45.000 The president tweeted about two weeks ago that they were going to happen, and then he rescheduled them for today, a little bit longer than a week ago.

00:00:54.000 We never heard of time for it, and now here we are.

00:00:56.000 I was waiting for it.

00:00:57.000 I was asking about it on Twitter, and people are telling me, no, it's going to start at 6 Central, and I don't know, maybe it'll start during the stream.

00:01:04.000 But I was getting all excited for that.

00:01:04.000 Who knows?

00:01:07.000 And outside of that, just not a whole lot going on.

00:01:09.000 We have, of course, the looming government shutdown on Friday.

00:01:12.000 There has been a new deal proposed by the Republicans to possibly fund the government.

00:01:17.000 So we will be talking about that.

00:01:19.000 Of course, there is the announcement about South and North Korea, who will both march under the same United Korean banner in the 2018 Olympics, a very big development.

00:01:29.000 And I think somebody was asking on Twitter for kind of a rundown on 2017 year in review on Trump with regards to foreign policy.

00:01:37.000 I think that would be a good place for it.

00:01:40.000 Excuse me, on this show tonight.

00:01:42.000 And then, of course, I announced today I declared my intent a challenge towards Theron Meyer.

00:01:50.000 If you recall from the Lauren Southern stream, what was it called?

00:01:54.000 It was something electric boogaloo. 1.00

00:01:57.000 The Lauren Southern stream, where me and Theron Meyer, this tranny, got into it a little bit about the trans issue. 1.00

00:02:04.000 I challenged her to a debate today, and she told me that she wasn't going to do it unless it was for charity. 1.00

00:02:11.000 She said she didn't want to do it unless Andy Worski donated 100% of the money to the something project, the Trevor Project or something, some LGBTP suicide prevention thing.

00:02:24.000 And that's LGBTP, some suicide prevention charity.

00:02:28.000 And when Andy said, no, I can't do that, you know, we have to make a living, we have to pay JF and so on, she said she didn't want to do it.

00:02:35.000 And I tried to reason with her.

00:02:37.000 I thought it would have been a really good debate, I thought it would have been really fun.

00:02:40.000 And she said, you know, there's not really much.

00:02:42.000 Overlap there.

00:02:43.000 There's not really much to debate because you're a paleo nationalist and I'm like a trans activist.

00:02:49.000 And I'm thinking to myself, no, but you're missing the fundamental point.

00:02:52.000 The debate would be, and if Theron's watching this, I hope she is, I hope somebody sends this to her or him or, you know, whatever it is.

00:02:59.000 It's hard because she presents as a woman and what I didn't know she was trans when I met her, so it's hard to get out of the habit.

00:03:05.000 But the big disagreement is between me and her or him on the nature of reality, on the nature of. 0.71

00:03:15.000 The causes on the nature of the Platonic forms, in the sense that what we were arguing is nothing short of philosophical realism.

00:03:24.000 I mean, that's really the debate.

00:03:25.000 It's not about, you know, pronouns.

00:03:28.000 It's not about this like gay Ben Shapiro stuff where he goes on a college campus and he says, well, age is real and gender is real.

00:03:35.000 No, no, no.

00:03:35.000 The point being that there is a real difference between men and women.

00:03:39.000 And what does it mean to be a man and a woman?

00:03:42.000 Does it mean that you are a man simply because, you know, there's something mentally going on with that? 0.66

00:03:47.000 Or even if you have the genitalia, but that. 0.93

00:03:50.000 A man means something in a formal sense.

00:03:52.000 A man has particular characteristics, social and otherwise.

00:03:57.000 There is a final cause for man, for the masculine role, and all of that. 1.00

00:04:03.000 And the same is true with women. 0.62

00:04:04.000 So, I mean, that's what the debate would be about, which I think would be really interesting, really something to get into. 1.00

00:04:09.000 But she doesn't want to do it. 1.00

00:04:11.000 She says she doesn't want to make them money. 0.97

00:04:13.000 She doesn't want it to be a public spectacle, which people just don't want to have fun anymore.

00:04:18.000 Everybody's so serious all the time.

00:04:20.000 So, but that's there.

00:04:21.000 And you know what would be really interesting, Andy Worski debate, would be me and James.

00:04:26.000 I think that would be, you know, I was thinking about that when Theron turned me down and Worski said, you know, if you'd like to debate anybody else, let me know.

00:04:33.000 And let me know in the comments who you would like to see me debate on the Worski stream while we have his attention, while that's still hot.

00:04:40.000 Who would you like to see me go after on any issue?

00:04:43.000 I don't know.

00:04:44.000 Wouldn't that be wild if it was me and James?

00:04:46.000 I think that would be pretty good content.

00:04:48.000 But I don't know.

00:04:50.000 Maybe that would be too soon, too ugly.

00:04:52.000 Who knows?

00:04:52.000 But that's the Worski stream.

00:04:55.000 To get into the news now, to get into what's going on, we have fun about what goes on on Twitter and what's said.

00:05:01.000 And I know many people would like to see that. 0.98

00:05:03.000 Many people had said the Theron versus Nick thing would just be a shit show. 0.98

00:05:06.000 Like, I'm denying that. 0.98

00:05:07.000 It would be fun.

00:05:08.000 It would be good content, and people might get a laugh out of it.

00:05:12.000 Some people might learn something.

00:05:13.000 Who knows?

00:05:14.000 But to get back to the news, I think the thing we have to talk about, because we've been talking about government shutdown and DACA so much, makes me want to do all kinds of things.

00:05:24.000 But the really big development today was this announcement that South and North Korea will be marching under the same banner in the 2018 Olympics.

00:05:33.000 And you understand why this is a big deal, given what's been going on in the Pacific and on.

00:05:39.000 The Korean Peninsula, more specifically, this entire year.

00:05:42.000 I think it's a fitting time to do a little year in review.

00:05:45.000 When we consider that Donald Trump took office and North Korea was as aggressive as it had ever been more missile tests, more nuke tests, Kim Jong un finally coming into his own after his father passed away and really becoming militant and aggressive and pushing the boundaries of the United States, testing the waters with Donald Trump.

00:06:08.000 And so President Trump took office with a situation that looked like war was inevitable.

00:06:13.000 It took office where there were nuclear tests, there were these missile tests, North Korea refused to negotiate.

00:06:18.000 It seemed like there was nowhere else to turn.

00:06:20.000 It seemed like, or at least Barack Obama made it out, that all the sanctions possible had been levied against North Korea.

00:06:29.000 And basically, short of war or short of just waiting on North Korea to decide to come to the table, there was not much we could do.

00:06:37.000 And over the course of 2017, we saw this very strategic game being played by Donald Trump, this kind of This game of chicken, this game of brinksmanship with North Korea, in the sense that obviously there were many more sanctions to be levied against North Korea, many more things he could do.

00:06:53.000 I think the introduction of China into the equation is probably the chief, probably the paramount achievement of President Trump's doctrine on North Korea, in the sense that the past administrations, the George W. Bush administration,

00:07:08.000 the Barack Obama administration, was simply varying degrees of strategic patience, in the sense that More focused on the theater in the Middle East, and therefore they were simply waiting for North Korea inevitably to come to the table as sanctions bled their country dry.

00:07:23.000 And there's not much else.

00:07:25.000 Well, Donald Trump, I think, really brilliantly saw the opportunity there, and he talked about it on the campaign trail, which was to involve China, to enter China into the equation.

00:07:35.000 And so while maybe he couldn't leverage North Korea any further, but he could leverage China to leverage North Korea further.

00:07:42.000 And that was a totally unexplored thing.

00:07:44.000 So, talking about tariffs on China, talking about possibly war in the Korean Peninsula, the war games with a three carrier military drill, and so on, the introduction of the THAAD missile defense system forced China's hands to implement more stringent, more strict sanctions against North Korea to the point where really the only consequential thing that has not been sanctioned is the oil.

00:08:07.000 And you understand that the oil is the number one thing, but we haven't gotten to that.

00:08:12.000 It seems like if North Korea stopped getting oil, they would.

00:08:15.000 Fall in about three months.

00:08:16.000 So that's probably why China hasn't budged on that.

00:08:19.000 But I think we look at this year in review of 2017 on the North Korea question.

00:08:24.000 And this is where Trump really shines on the art of the deal, where we saw where we were on January 20th.

00:08:28.000 And a year later, remember these recent talks between South Korea and North Korea, the bilateral negotiations that took place last week, those were credited to Donald Trump.

00:08:39.000 These two countries marching under the same banner in the 2018 Olympics, which is an incredible show of diplomacy.

00:08:46.000 And trust and really a great step in the right direction is the result of these talks, which have been credited to Donald Trump.

00:08:54.000 And so I think that's a really sound achievement.

00:08:57.000 This is something that's demonstrable or demonstrative, rather, of how President Trump has really been more efficient than any of his predecessors.

00:09:05.000 I know people kind of give him a bad rap on foreign policy, particularly in our circles, because they say he's a warmonger, he's a hawk, and so on.

00:09:15.000 And I think North Korea is really a fantastic example of unequivocal, uncontested.

00:09:20.000 Not debatable success here, where we really have seen forward momentum like we haven't seen in many years.

00:09:25.000 And then, in addition to that, if we're going to do more broadly his achievements in foreign policy, you look at our relationships in the Middle East.

00:09:33.000 You look at ISIS, which has been completely defeated.

00:09:36.000 You look at Saudi Arabia, which I think is finally stabilizing in the sense that Saudi Arabia, I don't think many people understand this about this country.

00:09:45.000 People look at the Arabian Peninsula, or maybe they don't.

00:09:47.000 Maybe people aren't looking at maps, and maybe they're not thinking about these things so much about what's happening in Saudi Arabia.

00:09:54.000 But For the longest time, really for the past 10 years, Saudi Arabia has been in a position of crisis, silently, but it has been in a position of crisis in the sense that their economy is wholly dependent and wholly invested in one resource, in one industry, in one sector of the economy, which of course is energy.

00:10:15.000 And they understand that very soon oil will be depleted.

00:10:19.000 The oil reserves in Saudi Arabia will be depleted, or at a different point, you will have alternatives to oil.

00:10:25.000 Oil will become less expensive.

00:10:27.000 And when you know that Saudi Arabia's economy, their budget, and basically the domination of their population by the royal family is dependent on oil being priced pretty expensively, and you know that fracking, for example, or alternative means of energy are becoming cheaper as a result, it creates an incentive to look into alternative forms of energy when oil is so expensive.

00:10:49.000 If oil passes $100 per barrel, it suddenly becomes lucrative to explore more expensive options as opposed to if oil was under $50 or something like that.

00:11:00.000 So, you looked at Saudi Arabia where their population was restless.

00:11:04.000 They were unemployed.

00:11:04.000 They were poor.

00:11:06.000 Like, really, most of the workers in Saudi Arabia were foreign born workers.

00:11:10.000 They did not have a skilled population.

00:11:12.000 There was this tug of war between people that wanted to modernize and liberalize and people who wanted more fundamentalism.

00:11:19.000 And then, of course, there was the problem with terrorism.

00:11:21.000 And so, to keep down the population, they needed to shore up this massive government with the oil.

00:11:26.000 They needed to have the money to fund this massive operation with the oil.

00:11:30.000 And that was looking like long term it wasn't going to work out.

00:11:33.000 They had to diversify.

00:11:34.000 There was also this problem of succession thrown in the mix as well.

00:11:37.000 And then you look at what the Trump administration's response to that was.

00:11:41.000 With Barack Obama, they kind of gave up on Saudi Arabia.

00:11:45.000 There wasn't a whole lot of cooperation.

00:11:46.000 There wasn't really a reinventing of that alliance.

00:11:49.000 We didn't really leverage that alliance as best we could.

00:11:52.000 And under Trump, we had Jared Kushner go down there.

00:11:55.000 And I know people are not wild about Jared Kushner, but I guess serving the Trump administration, and Trump went down there and visited as well, I believe we negotiated a new alliance, and one that is vastly different from the original alliance as dictated as far back as the 1940s.

00:12:13.000 People always ask me, Nick, why are we in an alliance with Saudi Arabia? 0.74

00:12:16.000 Nick, they're these fundamentalists.

00:12:19.000 They sponsor terrorism all over the world. 1.00

00:12:21.000 They're Wahhabists. 1.00

00:12:22.000 They are the architects of this radical Salafist interpretation of Islam, and they're spreading it around the globe. 1.00

00:12:29.000 Why are we supporting Saudi Arabia? 0.99

00:12:32.000 Well, the initial contract between our country and Saudi Arabia in the 1930s and 40s was that in exchange for us getting their oil, us getting their oil and getting it cheaply, we would provide them with protection and security and help them shore up their government.

00:12:46.000 Well, Donald Trump really renegotiated that fundamental contract that has existed between the United States and Saudi Arabia since the 1930s and 40s, where I think, and this is my speculation, but I believe that when Trump came down there to Saudi Arabia and he met with King Salman, it's a great fanfare, I think they really determined what the next 50 years would look like.

00:13:08.000 And so you see Saudi Arabia modernizing socially, you see them diversifying their economy, you see them taking a little bit more aggressive action against Iran, standing up against Iran a little bit more.

00:13:19.000 And I think this was at the behest of Trump.

00:13:21.000 I think Trump went down there and sat down and said, look, this is what needs to happen.

00:13:26.000 And maybe that was in exchange for a $300 billion arms contract.

00:13:29.000 Who knows what role that played into it.

00:13:31.000 But that really has reshaped the Middle East in the sense that you saw for a long time, or at least under Barack Obama, the United States concede our hegemony in the region and the hegemony of our proxies and our allies conceded to Russia.

00:13:45.000 Where in, for example, the Syrian Civil War, Russia became the predominant peace broker or power broker.

00:13:51.000 Where you saw the influence of Iran spread across the region from Yemen with the Houthi rebels to Qatar and Bahrain, where they fomented revolution, and Qatar, there's some influence to Iraq, where they sent the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps to Syria, where they had the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps as well, Lebanon, where they had Hezbollah.

00:14:10.000 And so you saw in the Middle East, whether you agree with it or not, America was losing its strategic position, it was losing its grip, it was losing its hegemony at the expense, or rather to the benefit of Russia, Iran, and Syria, this kind of other axis.

00:14:26.000 Of powers.

00:14:27.000 And so under Trump now, you have an emboldened Saudi Arabia that is competitive, that is combating Iran. 0.52

00:14:33.000 That you saw the play that happened in Lebanon, you saw the play in Yemen when they blockaded all the ports, and it's a disastrous humanitarian thing, but strategically it might be smart.

00:14:44.000 Where you saw what happened in Qatar with the blockade and things that are happening in Syria and Iraq with the shoring up of ISIS and consolidating control of Iraq again, the troop surge in Afghanistan, which increases our position there.

00:14:56.000 So I think what you're seeing across the world in both the Pacific.

00:15:00.000 And the Middle Eastern theater is a return to American power, but in a very different way.

00:15:05.000 To summarize, you look at these two examples where I think it's undoubtedly beneficial in both, but if we look at the prevailing thesis, the prevailing idea here, it's really, I think, interesting and new in the sense that this is not the same American empire that we saw in the aftermath of the Cold War.

00:15:25.000 This is not the same American empire that we saw even during the Cold War.

00:15:29.000 Really, since the 80s, we've been operating off of the Reagan Doctrine.

00:15:33.000 Which is everyone, everywhere, all the time.

00:15:35.000 The Defense Department has its command posts in every corner of the globe, military bases everywhere.

00:15:42.000 And under Donald Trump, we're really seeing kind of a substitution of direct American power for indirect American power.

00:15:49.000 It really is a peace through strength, really is a speak, I guess, softly and carrying a big stick.

00:15:55.000 Maybe it's, you know, speaking very angrily and carrying a big stick.

00:15:59.000 But you're really seeing a transformation of America's foreign policy slightly and gradually back, I think, to a position pre World War II in many ways.

00:16:08.000 You know, and I know people would argue.

00:16:10.000 That we have troops in Syria.

00:16:12.000 We have about 2,500 troops in Syria.

00:16:14.000 They might add that we have a troop surge happening in Afghanistan.

00:16:18.000 But I think if you look at the bigger picture, if you look at Afghanistan in particular, this wasn't his war.

00:16:24.000 This is to wrap up what's been going on, to stabilize the country and leave.

00:16:28.000 You know, the Defense Department says that they're not focusing on nation building at all.

00:16:32.000 You look at Syria and Iraq, where they buttoned up the ISIS issue very nicely.

00:16:36.000 I think what you'll see in the next three years, if we're looking at 2017 as an example, Or maybe an insight into what the Trump doctrine will look like going forward into really a new American foreign policy.

00:16:47.000 And maybe those are not even the best examples.

00:16:49.000 Maybe the best example is with the European Union and NATO.

00:16:54.000 I think Trump's break with France and with Germany has not been explored enough in the sense that, I mean, it was, since the end of World War II, basically not disputed that the United States and Europe had this kind of symbiotic relationship led by the United States. 0.52

00:17:10.000 And whatever happened, the United States led the way.

00:17:13.000 With few exceptions, maybe with Charles de Gaulle leaving NATO temporarily and some other things, some other bumps along the way, it really had been that model of Europe and the United States basically moving at the end of history in this alliance of liberal democracy.

00:17:30.000 And what you're seeing now is this rift between continental Europe, Britain, and the United States in a way that we haven't seen really in a long time, where Europe, the powers of the European countries, are finally becoming unchained.

00:17:44.000 And asserting themselves independently in different ways, where certainly you have different political climates now in the United Kingdom than you do in France or in Germany.

00:17:52.000 And albeit it's happening gradually, but it is happening.

00:17:55.000 So it's a rapidly changing world.

00:17:58.000 I think 2016 was an inflection point.

00:18:01.000 And we'll continue to monitor what happens going on in 2018.

00:18:04.000 But somebody just asked me about that in Twitter.

00:18:07.000 Can you give us a year end review of Donald Trump's strategy, the Trump doctrine?

00:18:13.000 And I think it's really something special.

00:18:15.000 I think it's Nixonian.

00:18:18.000 I think that's probably the best way to describe it Nixoni and kind of this detente with Russia, our greatest rival, and also kind of this balancing around the world in different theaters.

00:18:30.000 So, really something to watch, really interesting.

00:18:32.000 For anybody that says that Trump is the same old neocon, they're not watching closely enough.

00:18:37.000 They're really not watching closely enough.

00:18:39.000 So, that's Korea. 1.00

00:18:41.000 That's fun.

00:18:42.000 That's a little bit more in depth.

00:18:43.000 That's a deep dive into the foreign policy.

00:18:46.000 And we enjoy that.

00:18:47.000 Foreign policy is a very important thing.

00:18:50.000 It's an underrated thing that I don't think people talk about enough in the movement.

00:18:54.000 I think there's this tunnel vision on like one thing in the far right, and we kind of ignore things like the economy, things like foreign policy, which really do play an important role.

00:19:04.000 So that's a very solid development today with North Korea and more broadly over the course of the year.

00:19:09.000 So we have that coming up next, rolling right along on the show, moving right along on the America First program.

00:19:18.000 I got to tell you, I'm famished.

00:19:19.000 I haven't eaten anything.

00:19:21.000 In a little while, because there's a lot going on in my life right now.

00:19:25.000 There's a lot going on with the company.

00:19:27.000 It's still very ugly, this rift.

00:19:29.000 There's talks about getting lawyers involved, people getting sued, all kinds of things.

00:19:35.000 And then there's, you know, a number of other things going on in the personal life.

00:19:39.000 So this is the moment of trial, but very hungry today.

00:19:42.000 The space heater is jacked up to 100, so I'm sweating profusely right now.

00:19:48.000 But I have to deliver the news to you.

00:19:50.000 I've been tasked with this role, I've been destined for this role to provide for you the news summary.

00:19:56.000 So the next thing that we got to get to is.

00:19:59.000 The government shut down.

00:20:00.000 Now, we've been talking about this a lot this week, but I promise today it's a little bit different because there are some new developments.

00:20:07.000 So we know that the government runs out of money on Friday, right?

00:20:10.000 January 19th, that's the date that we're supposed to remember.

00:20:13.000 January 19th, the government runs out of money and they have to pass some kind of a funding bill.

00:20:19.000 And this is what happens when the government doesn't pass budgets.

00:20:22.000 I think it's kind of funny that we're all talking about, well, what happens when the government shuts down?

00:20:27.000 How are they going to pass a bill in time?

00:20:29.000 And nobody stops and wonders, like, gee, What if we passed a budget for once?

00:20:33.000 I mean, we haven't passed a budget, I think, in like seven or eight years.

00:20:37.000 And if you pass a budget, the House can allocate money for the government to function for a whole year.

00:20:43.000 But what we've been doing since kind of this breakdown in cooperation in Congress, and this really happened under the presidency of Barack Obama, now we have this policy of just ad hoc spending bills continue funding the government through this many months, continue funding the government's activities until this.

00:21:01.000 Debt limit is reached and kicking the can down the road.

00:21:04.000 So, you know, all this talk about government shutdown, this government, or is Trump shutting it down?

00:21:09.000 Is the Democrats, are the Democrats shutting it down?

00:21:12.000 The question is, why don't we have a budget?

00:21:14.000 Why don't we have a budget?

00:21:16.000 That's the question we have to start off by asking.

00:21:18.000 And, you know, why is this allowed to continue?

00:21:19.000 But on the government shutdown, which will happen on Friday, government runs out of money.

00:21:24.000 They have to pass something to continue funding.

00:21:27.000 And people have commented, and rightly so, that the government shutdown is kind of this hyperbolic.

00:21:33.000 Misnomer in the sense that the government really doesn't shut down.

00:21:37.000 It's just the non essential functions that get suspended temporarily.

00:21:42.000 So, of course, you know, obviously you still have the military, you still have the police, you still have all kinds of things.

00:21:46.000 It's just that, you know, like the national parks, I think, stop getting paid or, you know, they get to stay home.

00:21:53.000 But Social Security checks are still cashed, Medicare checks, and, you know, all the rest, that still goes on.

00:21:58.000 So it's not totally a government shutdown.

00:22:00.000 But regardless, government runs out of money on Friday.

00:22:04.000 And so, what you have here between the Republicans and Democrats is this Republicans have offered to fund the government, and in exchange, they will give the Democrats CHIP, which is the Children's Health Insurance Program that provides health insurance subsidies to 9 million children.

00:22:19.000 And this is something Democrats really want.

00:22:21.000 But Democrats are holding out, of course, on funding the government because they want to force Trump's hand on DACA.

00:22:27.000 They say, we will not give you the votes in the Senate to fund the government unless you protect the DACA recipients.

00:22:34.000 And people might say, well, Republicans have majorities in both houses.

00:22:37.000 Why can't they do this?

00:22:38.000 Why isn't Trump a dictator?

00:22:40.000 Why aren't we seeing illegals being rounded up in plastic handcuffs and all the rest?

00:22:45.000 Well, you understand that the Democrats can block any vote in the Senate unless the Republicans get 60 votes.

00:22:53.000 So, unless nine Democrats and all Republicans come over to vote to fund the government, no bill gets passed.

00:23:00.000 So, people think that it works this way where you get a simple majority in the Senate.

00:23:04.000 They should take a Constitution class because, correct, the House Republicans could pass a bill that would fund the government, and that might be a very smart play.

00:23:13.000 They might put their bill to the floor, which funds the children's health insurance programs as a concession to the Democrats and fund the government and force the Democrats' hands, put a bill in front of them in the Senate and dare them to shut down the government and say, look, we're giving you a concession.

00:23:30.000 We're funding the government.

00:23:31.000 Give us nine votes.

00:23:33.000 Give us the ten.

00:23:34.000 Senators that are going to be up for re election, that we need to get this through and we can avert the government shutdown that neither side really wants.

00:23:41.000 But of course, the Democrats want to force the president's hand.

00:23:45.000 They think that this will hurt him and force his hand in negotiating on DACA, giving the DACA recipients legal protections so they'll give him the funding.

00:23:55.000 And you understand that the Democrats' play here has actually been pretty smart.

00:23:59.000 I mean, if you've been watching this back and forth, if you haven't been autistically screeching about Trump cucking on DACA, you've seen the back and forth.

00:24:07.000 In the sense that the Ninth Circuit Court overruling Trump's rescinding of DACA was kind of the passing the ball back to Trump, putting the ball back in Trump's court.

00:24:18.000 Because Trump was counting on, in my estimation, the DACA recipients' legal protections running out.

00:24:24.000 He rescinded DACA, I believe it was in August or September.

00:24:27.000 And every day since then, DACA recipients have been losing their legal protections and they can't renew them.

00:24:34.000 And so at the height of these negotiations last week, you had 1,000 recipients losing their protections every day until.

00:24:41.000 The Ninth Circuit judge filed an injunction, I believe it was, and said, You can't rescind that for some nonsense reason, and forced Trump's cabinet to begin accepting renewals for DACA applications again.

00:24:53.000 And so that brought the Democrats a little bit of time, because now Trump will have to appeal that injunction to the Supreme Court so that he can start denying those again.

00:25:02.000 And until then, Democrats face really no penalty in the sense that the DACA recipients still get their legal protections, and Democrats can bleed the government dry as long as they want.

00:25:11.000 Well, that really gives credence to the idea that Trump.

00:25:14.000 And his DHS yesterday talking about arresting leaders of sanctuary cities is kind of another play to put the pressure back on the Democrats.

00:25:22.000 And you see how this power dynamic is playing out here.

00:25:26.000 And I think this is the right move.

00:25:28.000 I think Trump thinking strategically about 2018 is probably the best thing that he can do right now.

00:25:34.000 I think he has a very strong hand to play in the sense that the Democrats are the ones forcing this.

00:25:41.000 And the difference between this one and the last one is that the Democrats control the media.

00:25:45.000 But besides that, and that's not a trivial thing, but besides the fact that the media will.

00:25:48.000 Spin this as Trump's shutdown.

00:25:50.000 This is textbook what happened in 2011 or 2012 with Ted Cruz when the government shut down and the Democrats said, well, you're forcing the Obamacare issue, you're being obstructionist, and so on and so forth.

00:26:02.000 The reason I think this will work out in Trump's favor is because Donald Trump has pretty nice approval ratings right now.

00:26:08.000 The ratings on the economy are like you wouldn't believe.

00:26:11.000 They are record numbers on the economy.

00:26:14.000 The Dow Jones Industrial Average just hit 26,000 points today for the first time ever, which, you know, people who follow finance, Might have a problem if that's really a good thing.

00:26:23.000 We don't really know where all the growth is coming from.

00:26:26.000 But regardless of that fact, 66% of people say that the economy is in good or excellent condition, which is the best in recorded history, which is as long as they've been keeping records on these kinds of numbers.

00:26:41.000 And so they have a very strong economy, or Trump has a very strong economy going into the midterms.

00:26:46.000 I think Trump has a very good record in terms of the tax cuts and the North Korea thing, which looks like it's resolving itself.

00:26:52.000 And the Democrats have pigeonholed themselves over the course of the year into being the reflexively anti-Trump, anti-progress party.

00:27:00.000 And Trump has done a really good job of portraying them in that light, in the sense that I think even regular Democrats and moderates see that you turn on Colbert, you turn on Jimmy Fallon, you turn on any news network, and it's just anti Trump.

00:27:14.000 He eats two scoops of ice cream. 0.99

00:27:16.000 All he eats is garbage. 0.99

00:27:17.000 He watches Gorilla TV. 0.99

00:27:18.000 He watches a Gorilla Channel, you know?

00:27:20.000 And so that's why this might be a really genius thing, because maybe, just maybe, the Democrats who are up for re election in 2018, who would not be looked on favorably in swing states as being reflexively anti Trump, Forcing the government shutdown might break for Trump, might break for a deal.

00:27:37.000 That would be unprecedented because for the past eight years, really even longer, the Democrats have been lockstep, unified basically as a monolith, you know, as an individual organism.

00:27:50.000 No better example of that than Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primaries and then the general.

00:27:54.000 So that would really be unprecedented.

00:27:56.000 But if Trump could do that, if he could crack the Democrat coalition, if he could break away nine or ten votes, People that are up for re election in these swing states from the Democrat side to vote on a bill that funds the government.

00:28:10.000 I mean, that would be the masterstroke.

00:28:12.000 I don't know if that'll happen.

00:28:14.000 I don't know who will blink first.

00:28:15.000 I don't know who will blink first, but I think we're using our leverage here.

00:28:20.000 I think we're playing for keeps here.

00:28:21.000 We're playing for the midterms, and that's a very good thing.

00:28:24.000 But regardless of how it turns out, I think the broader takeaway that people should really just be mad about is this idea that the government just messes with our money.

00:28:36.000 Right?

00:28:37.000 In the sense that we pay all this money and there's no budget, there's no accountability, we're racking up debt like crazy.

00:28:44.000 And I understand there's other considerations going on and we have other priorities, but I just think it's downright inexcusable if you like your congressman, if you like your politician, that there is not only not a balanced budget, but there's no plan for a balanced budget.

00:28:58.000 We don't have a plan for how to balance the budget in 100 years or 50 years or 10 years or 5 years.

00:29:04.000 There's no plan to get us back on track.

00:29:06.000 And I'll tell you a little story.

00:29:08.000 I'll tell you a little story.

00:29:10.000 I was, I served in this like local government board when I was a youngster, when I was a youth.

00:29:17.000 And basically, what we did, I was in like middle school and we would go in and we'd review the minutes for the, you know, whatever, the local government meetings the next day.

00:29:25.000 And so we'd talk about potholes and streets, you know, when they clean the streets up and how they buy salt for the winter for when it snows and rebuilding the public work center and all that kind of stuff.

00:29:37.000 And so we would go in and we'd review the minutes and we'd kind of give our discussion on it.

00:29:40.000 It was supposed to be like this informative thing for, People that are interested in civic affairs.

00:29:46.000 And so I recall I got into this organization, I think in 2008 or 2009, right when the recession happened.

00:29:53.000 And we were running crazy deficits.

00:29:55.000 I mean, not crazy in gross terms, but crazy in relative terms.

00:30:00.000 Crazy to how much money the government took in at this local level.

00:30:03.000 We were spending exorbitant amounts of money.

00:30:06.000 And at the time, I was your typical neoliberal, libertarian, budget hawk, Rand Paul kind of a guy.

00:30:12.000 And I'd be saying, you know, all right, we have a recession, but when are we getting the budget under control?

00:30:17.000 And they said, well, once the recession passes, then we'll change our practices and we'll have our budget under control.

00:30:22.000 They said that in 2008.

00:30:25.000 Times are tough.

00:30:26.000 We're not bringing in enough revenue.

00:30:27.000 Prices are a little bit higher, but soon that'll go back to normal.

00:30:31.000 We'll balance the budget.

00:30:32.000 And we had been running surpluses before the recession.

00:30:35.000 2009 rolls around, still a deficit.

00:30:38.000 2010 rolls around, still a deficit.

00:30:40.000 2011, 2012, 2013, 14, 15, 16.

00:30:45.000 And not only is the deficit not going away, it's growing.

00:30:49.000 And this is happening, by the way, at every level.

00:30:51.000 This is happening at the local level.

00:30:53.000 This is happening at the state level.

00:30:55.000 This is happening at the national level, where the excuse was in 2009 when we passed the TARP Act, when we passed the bailout thing, that, well, we have a $1 trillion deficit because, you know, desperate times call for desperate measures.

00:31:09.000 And when it happened again, the same thing.

00:31:11.000 But we're still running these massive deficits, and you have to ask yourself when is the situation going to be rectified?

00:31:18.000 This is probably the worst possible time in American history for us to be running debts like this, for us to be running deficits like this.

00:31:26.000 When you look at the rise of China, As a world power and a world power institutionally, if you look at how they're challenging America for institutional control, for monetary control of the world, you look at this is a very troubling thing.

00:31:40.000 It's a small thing, but it's a sign of things to come where Pakistan and China have started doing their trade based not on the United States dollar, but based on the yuan, which is a very, a very stark departure from when, uh, you know, all world transactions, all currency transactions were done in US dollars, and that was the standard.

00:31:59.000 And so the US dollar is the world reserve currency right now.

00:32:02.000 And that's why we can rack up as much debt as we want.

00:32:05.000 That's why we can print as much money as we want for now. 0.76

00:32:09.000 But in 25 years and 50 years, when China's economy surpasses us or comes to equal ours, I know people say that a lot of their growth is just flat out lied about in the sense that they forged the documents and a lot of it is built on credit spending. 0.99

00:32:23.000 It's built on a bubble and debt, and a lot of that's true. 0.89

00:32:26.000 But an economy of a billion people rapidly growing, they will come to match our power or exceed it in the next century.

00:32:33.000 And the question becomes what kind of fiscal position will we be in?

00:32:37.000 When they challenge us for that institutional and financial control of the world.

00:32:42.000 Will we have $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities like we do now?

00:32:46.000 Will we have $20 some trillion in debt like we do now?

00:32:49.000 Will we still have these uncontrolled deficits, no budgets and everything else?

00:32:54.000 It's only going to get worse from here, folks.

00:32:56.000 The entitlement spending only grows from here.

00:32:59.000 The interest on the debt only grows from here.

00:33:01.000 It's not going to get any better.

00:33:03.000 And, you know, demographics are important.

00:33:05.000 Immigration is important. 1.00

00:33:06.000 But all of these things become deadly if not treated. 1.00

00:33:10.000 You know, sure, we might, let's say hypothetically we solve the demographic question. 0.73

00:33:13.000 Let's say hypothetically, best case scenario, we deport all the illegals, we end immigration, white birth rate goes up, we get back to 70% white population. 0.72

00:33:23.000 What good is that going to be when the dollar becomes worthless one day? 0.88

00:33:26.000 You know, I mean, that's going to be a very devastating thing.

00:33:29.000 And not like I wouldn't prefer that reality over a reality where we have a good dollar and it's AmeriCoA.

00:33:34.000 I'm not saying that.

00:33:35.000 But I am saying that we have to prevent bad outcomes.

00:33:38.000 And if we want to prevent bad outcomes, we have to look at all these different things.

00:33:42.000 And to ignore the fiscal, which we have been doing, the movement, the government, and the people, it will be lethal in the long run.

00:33:50.000 Mark my words.

00:33:51.000 And it just should be offensive to anybody.

00:33:53.000 Like, regardless of what your civic engagement is, regardless of what your political engagement is, everybody works, except for me, because I do the shell.

00:34:00.000 No, I'm joking.

00:34:01.000 This is work.

00:34:02.000 But everybody works, everybody pays taxes, and that pisses everybody off.

00:34:07.000 The fact that, you know, you go to work five days a week, eight hours a day, you work your fingers to the bone.

00:34:13.000 To pay for ever increasing amounts of debt, ever increasing expenses, ever increasing taxes.

00:34:18.000 And you do this for 60 years in the hopes that at some point you could be a little bit comfortable.

00:34:24.000 At some point you could be a little bit secure in your position.

00:34:26.000 At some point you could stop work, finally, and just relax, right?

00:34:32.000 And all the while the government is taking, they're taking ever more, ever greater percentages.

00:34:37.000 And we're going to tax you here, we're going to tax you on your soda, we're going to tax you on your gas and your car and your home, and we'll jack this up and that up.

00:34:44.000 And we'll print more money so your income will be less and we'll raise the cost of other things so your expenses will be more and your money will decrease.

00:34:53.000 And so on and so on.

00:34:54.000 They boost the regulations on the cars so the cars are more expensive.

00:34:57.000 They boost the regulations on everything so everything's more expensive.

00:35:01.000 And they take all this money and what do they do with it?

00:35:04.000 What do they do with it? 0.64

00:35:05.000 They give it to Israel. 0.95

00:35:07.000 They give it to people that just got on here, that just got to the land because they crawled across the border. 0.93

00:35:13.000 They came here on a boat. 0.93

00:35:15.000 They give it to people that don't work.

00:35:17.000 They give it to people that don't work and they have five kids and no father. 0.94

00:35:21.000 They give it to illegals for scholarships. 1.00

00:35:25.000 We're just the sorry people. 0.99

00:35:25.000 And what are we? 0.99

00:35:27.000 We're just the stupid assholes that we go to work and we submit our money, we give our tithe to the new idol, the state, and what do we get? 1.00

00:35:38.000 We get the mismanagement, we get illegals, we get terrorists, we get wars that we don't need or want, we get our jobs taken, and so on. 1.00

00:35:47.000 This is not the way it's supposed to be. 0.76

00:35:49.000 This is not the way it's supposed to be.

00:35:52.000 So while all the circus is going on, Trump, Democrats, the strategy.

00:35:56.000 And, you know, we all love that.

00:35:57.000 It's fine and well.

00:35:58.000 It's fun to observe and all that.

00:35:59.000 But just remember the significance.

00:36:01.000 Get mad about that.

00:36:02.000 You have to get angry about that.

00:36:05.000 In any serious country, in any other serious country, you would see massive resistance to what's going on in the government.

00:36:13.000 I'm not saying that's violent.

00:36:14.000 I'm not saying anything more than you would see resistance.

00:36:17.000 You would see protests.

00:36:18.000 You would see organization.

00:36:20.000 You would see mobilization in any other country that it's that way.

00:36:26.000 But we don't see that here.

00:36:27.000 People aren't mad enough about it because they go home from work and what do they do?

00:36:30.000 They turn on the television.

00:36:31.000 They go home from work, they turn on the television.

00:36:33.000 And then on Friday, maybe when they have a chance to think about it a little bit, what do they do? 0.98

00:36:37.000 You go out and you get drunk and you do drugs and you have promiscuous, hedonistic sex.

00:36:42.000 And all of that suddenly goes out the window until Monday when you've got to wake up, you know, hear the alarm.

00:36:49.000 So it's like Harrison Bergeron with the alarm.

00:36:51.000 That might make a very good short.

00:36:53.000 Who knows?

00:36:54.000 But anyway, that's the government shutdown.

00:36:56.000 Why don't we get to your super chats?

00:36:59.000 I know it's very sad.

00:37:00.000 I know it's very depressing to look at the situation, but we have to look at this like an opportunity.

00:37:06.000 This is a real opportunity in the country to remake this country in our image, to really rethink the American experiment in the context of the 21st century because it's not working.

00:37:18.000 And I don't know how anybody will expect it to work when you have the government controlled by the Congress, and the Congress is controlled by the donors.

00:37:26.000 This is not a controversial thing to say that.

00:37:28.000 You look at the Constitution, and Article 1 of the Constitution lays out the powers of Congress.

00:37:33.000 This is the longest article in the entire Constitution.

00:37:37.000 The Constitution delegates the most powers to the Congress, to the House of Representatives and the Senate.

00:37:44.000 Now, the founders intended that the Senate would have gained its members by selection by the state organizations, right?

00:37:54.000 And that didn't happen, right?

00:37:55.000 Because of the 17th Amendment, you had the direct election of senators. 0.88

00:37:59.000 It was originally intended that the states, And really, a federalist move, the states would have control of the Senate.

00:38:04.000 The grand compromise to form the Constitution, to get it ratified, was between two different plans for what the Congress would look like to form a bicameral Congress, where you have the House of the People, the House of Representatives, which is members are determined by population, and the House of the States, the Senate, which every state would send a delegation of two senators chosen by the state legislatures.

00:38:27.000 And that's how it was intended to function, so that the House of Representatives, maybe that could get bought.

00:38:32.000 Maybe that could become corrupt, but the Senate would be much harder to buy because you would have to buy all the state legislatures.

00:38:37.000 And that would be a lot more money, that would be a lot more of a hassle, it would be more difficult to overcome.

00:38:42.000 Well, with the passage of the 17th Amendment, what we have is basically the usurpation of sovereignty, the usurpation of these checks and balances by the Congress.

00:38:52.000 And they control everything.

00:38:53.000 They can override anything, and they can overrule the Supreme Court.

00:38:56.000 They can overrule the president.

00:38:58.000 And the problem with the Congress, the problem with the Congress in this era is money.

00:39:03.000 Because, of course, take the example of Lyndon Johnson.

00:39:06.000 He needed maybe $50 million to win a campaign in Texas for Senate.

00:39:12.000 When he was running for Senate, and I think it was 1948, He had to have $50 million, one of the most expensive campaigns in history at the time to win the state of Texas.

00:39:20.000 And he lost anyway, but these are minor details.

00:39:23.000 $50 million.

00:39:24.000 So he goes to a major contracting company, and this was while he was in the House of Representatives, while he was running his House race, he needed something, you know, a much smaller figure.

00:39:33.000 But when he was in the House of Representatives, and that's when he was running for Senate, he was writing contracts for these massive contracting companies, for these massive, um, construction companies for billions of dollars.

00:39:45.000 So you understand the asymmetry there, where if a congressman can write a check, Through a contract, through a deal, if they can leverage something through the bureaucracy, through the cabinet, through whatever, if they can get a certain company a contract worth a billion dollars and it only costs 20 to 50 million dollars for that person to get elected, do the math.

00:40:05.000 That's the problem with the Congress.

00:40:07.000 Because these major contractors, these major financial interests, they buy the congressman for pennies on the dollar, for whatever it costs to run a campaign, and the congressman writes the check using the taxpayers' money far greater.

00:40:20.000 For these major companies.

00:40:22.000 And so that's why it will never work.

00:40:24.000 That's why it will never get fixed.

00:40:26.000 And so, all these people, all these libertarians, that's why I kind of move to a more authoritarian position, is because systematically it cannot work.

00:40:36.000 The incentives are built in such a way that it is impossible.

00:40:40.000 It will never happen, barring a miracle, barring like mass consciousness.

00:40:46.000 You know, all these, what do they call them, theosophists who talk about Thule and about Loth and all of that, or Thoth, you know, barring.

00:40:55.000 Barring that kind of thing, where the Peruvian woman goes down and she decipheres all of that, maybe some people get these very esoteric references, but barring a miracle, it won't happen. 0.94

00:41:06.000 It's governed by the money, and the money, they will build it in such a way that they bleed us dry. 0.99

00:41:11.000 It's really made it in such a way that the government is essentially a conduit from which money flows from the citizens to these banks and these companies and these interests.

00:41:22.000 And until we choke the Congress, until we push back against populism, not necessarily populism, but against Against democracy in a certain sense.

00:41:31.000 So we go back to more of a Republican system.

00:41:34.000 We look at how voting was originally intended to be, how the bicameral Congress was originally intended to be, how federalism was originally intended to function, and maybe we may arrive at an answer.

00:41:46.000 But that's how it goes.

00:41:49.000 That's how it goes.

00:41:51.000 That's how it goes.

00:41:52.000 We work and they eat.

00:41:55.000 They decide what do we do with all this money?

00:41:57.000 Some for Israel, some for NASA.

00:41:59.000 What the hell?

00:41:59.000 Some for research on this, some for you.

00:42:03.000 You poor welfare recipient who you had 10 kids out of wedlock and you're not even working.

00:42:09.000 Forget it.

00:42:11.000 But we have to get to the super chats.

00:42:12.000 You understand this.

00:42:14.000 So let's check out what we have on our super chats this evening.

00:42:18.000 Let's see what the unwashed mass is saying today.

00:42:22.000 Owen says, Red pill me on Kanye.

00:42:24.000 What songs are good?

00:42:25.000 Well, you really can't go wrong with Kanye.

00:42:27.000 You've got, I think, my personal favorites.

00:42:32.000 You've got Runaway.

00:42:33.000 You've got Paranoid.

00:42:36.000 You've got Streetlights.

00:42:37.000 These are from 808s and Heartbreaks, Runaways from Beautiful, Dark, and Twisted Fantasy.

00:42:43.000 You can't go wrong, really, with anything on College Dropout, except for a few are a little bit dated.

00:42:48.000 The same is true of 808s, except for Robocop.

00:42:51.000 I almost disavow Kanye singularly for that song.

00:42:55.000 But Graduation, you've got Stronger, you've got Glory, Champion, so many.

00:42:59.000 Good Morning.

00:43:00.000 So you can't go wrong.

00:43:02.000 I would start with the trilogy.

00:43:03.000 I would start with the trilogy, which is College Dropout, Late Registration, and Graduation.

00:43:07.000 You can't go wrong if you listen to those all the way through.

00:43:10.000 The later stuff is a little bit more controversial.

00:43:12.000 Yeezus, Life of Pablo, Experimental.

00:43:15.000 Some argue if he really changed the game on those, if they're really up to Kanye's standards.

00:43:19.000 They're still good in their own right, but are they up to the previous ones?

00:43:22.000 Did they meet the bar that was set originally?

00:43:25.000 That's dubious.

00:43:26.000 But you can check those albums out.

00:43:29.000 Alex F., do you support the My Borders, My Choice poster campaign?

00:43:35.000 I think the poster campaign thing is kind of overdone.

00:43:38.000 I mean, yeah, I think people should poster, but I think it's all kind of trying to capitalize on the. 0.93

00:43:45.000 Momentum of it's okay to be white. 0.76

00:43:47.000 Maybe that was a one time thing. 0.88

00:43:49.000 Who knows?

00:43:50.000 But yeah, I guess the posters are always a good thing.

00:43:51.000 It's always a good thing to be visible to get the message out there.

00:43:55.000 But I think it's one of those things where it's very, very low investment and maybe higher on return.

00:44:02.000 So yeah, I guess I support it in that sense. 1.00

00:44:05.000 Empress Finest debate someone who isn't a mental tranny. 1.00

00:44:08.000 I'll debate anybody. 0.99

00:44:09.000 I'll debate anybody on the Andy Worski program. 0.90

00:44:13.000 So if that's you, if you want to spar with me on any subject, Israel.

00:44:18.000 Catholicism, Christianity, race, I mean, really, whatever it is, the budget, the economy, I will meet you there and we'll do it. 0.89

00:44:27.000 But it has to be a challenger who is worthy.

00:44:30.000 I have this one guy, this Jewish guy with 30 followers who I've never met in my life, who's like, why won't you debate me?

00:44:37.000 It's like, because I don't know you, because nobody knows you. 1.00

00:44:40.000 And not like his ideas don't have any merit, but it's like, if I were to debate any just schmo who came up, I mean, that'd be a lot of debate challenges. 1.00

00:44:48.000 So we'd have to have. 1.00

00:44:50.000 We have to have a serious challenger here.

00:44:53.000 Simon Skola, debate millennial woes about trad thoughts.

00:44:57.000 Now that's an interesting proposition.

00:45:00.000 That we might be able to make happen. 1.00

00:45:02.000 I would love to get on the stream with millennial woes. 1.00

00:45:06.000 That would be fun. 1.00

00:45:07.000 So, hey, maybe I'll post about that after the show.

00:45:10.000 Millennial woes versus Nick Fuentes on the Andy Worski program.

00:45:14.000 Now that would be something worth watching. 1.00

00:45:16.000 The bants on that one would be unbelievable. 1.00

00:45:19.000 Simon Skola, Sadinsky Lawson wants you to unblock him. 0.99

00:45:23.000 You should have thought about that before him and his wife chimped out on my Discord and he starts talking shit about me on Twitter. 0.96

00:45:23.000 Yeah, well. 0.96

00:45:30.000 You know, people act very badly, they behave very badly, and then they still think they're entitled to my content.

00:45:35.000 My content is very good. 0.98

00:45:37.000 And if you're going to chimp out on my Discord, you're going to bring your wife on and start calling me names with her. 1.00

00:45:43.000 Yeah, we can't make it happen. 1.00

00:45:45.000 Barry, debate Mama Fuentes on the neat lifestyle. 1.00

00:45:49.000 That would get volatile. 0.99

00:45:50.000 The fights between me and my mother are world class.

00:45:54.000 It's worse than Ali versus.

00:45:58.000 Versus who?

00:45:59.000 Who was Rumble in the Jungle?

00:46:01.000 It was George Foreman.

00:46:04.000 It's crazy.

00:46:04.000 It's worse than Holyfield versus Tyson when me and my mom get into it because we're two alike.

00:46:10.000 So it's this Italian anger and this grudge thing and the exaggeration and the yelling. 0.93

00:46:16.000 So when me and my mom get into it, it is world class debating.

00:46:22.000 I don't know.

00:46:22.000 That might get too ugly.

00:46:23.000 That might get too ugly for the Worski stream.

00:46:25.000 It would turn into a cage match. 0.82

00:46:27.000 You'd have better luck setting that up on WWE. 1.00

00:46:30.000 Now, but we love her, but we always make up.

00:46:32.000 We have that kinship.

00:46:34.000 Simon Skola, word going around that Baked Alaska has set up a debate between Sargon and Andrew Anglin.

00:46:41.000 That would be interesting.

00:46:43.000 I would like to see that.

00:46:45.000 Simon Skola, would you ever debate an atheist?

00:46:47.000 Also, I know this is a dead meme, but would you have E. Michael Jones on?

00:46:51.000 You're both Catholic and it would be amazing.

00:46:53.000 I would debate an atheist.

00:46:54.000 I would handily debate an atheist.

00:46:56.000 I would like to.

00:46:57.000 And on the E. Michael Jones question, the guy's got bad optics.

00:47:01.000 I would, but the guy's got bad optics.

00:47:03.000 It's nothing personal.

00:47:04.000 People say, Why don't you invite David Duke on?

00:47:06.000 Why don't you invite Chris Cantwell on?

00:47:07.000 Why don't you invite E. Michael Jones?

00:47:09.000 And I abstain from this, and they think that means like I've dissed them, I've gone against them or something.

00:47:16.000 It's got nothing to do with that.

00:47:17.000 I don't have any personal gripe with any of them.

00:47:19.000 I don't have any personal gripe with the work they do or anything like that.

00:47:23.000 But you understand that in politics, some people take on greater baggage than others.

00:47:28.000 Some people take on a greater risk than others.

00:47:31.000 They take on a certain image.

00:47:33.000 And there is a contagion effect, there is a guilt by association effect.

00:47:36.000 And so while you may.

00:47:38.000 Not have a problem with some of these people.

00:47:40.000 You understand that by virtue of association, you, whether you like it or not, take on their baggage and share their optics, share the decisions they've made with their image.

00:47:50.000 And I've made it a point to very carefully construct and deliberately construct an image, a brand, a message which serves a very specific function.

00:48:00.000 You may not understand it, you might not agree with it, but that is the case.

00:48:04.000 And so in an ideal world, in an abstract world, We could have on a conversation and debate ideas on their merits, and nobody would face any unjust consequences.

00:48:14.000 But, I mean, we know that's not how it works in the real world.

00:48:16.000 So, E. Michael Jones, I've watched his content.

00:48:18.000 I like his content.

00:48:20.000 But some of the things he says, it's a little bit too explicit.

00:48:24.000 It wouldn't be good for the brand.

00:48:25.000 And it might be self indulgent for me to, and I would fangirl and be like, wow, you know, and I'd be excited to have him on.

00:48:32.000 But I think that would be at the expense of the message.

00:48:35.000 And reasonable people understand this.

00:48:39.000 Simon Scola, who do you want to win the Super Bowl?

00:48:41.000 Who's even playing in the Super Bowl?

00:48:43.000 Who's even playing in the.

00:48:45.000 It's the cats versus the dogs in the 2018 Super Bowl, in the 50th Super Bowl.

00:48:51.000 It's the animals versus the kings.

00:48:54.000 It's the big dogs. 1.00

00:48:55.000 It's big blacks from. 1.00

00:48:58.000 It's Chicago's finest black athletes versus Detroit's finest black athletes in a throwing contest to end all throwing contests. 0.99

00:49:07.000 Not to counter signal football. 0.61

00:49:09.000 I know it's an American tradition.

00:49:10.000 I know people like it, but.

00:49:12.000 Really, just not my cup of tea, and people know this.

00:49:15.000 In the throwing contest, it's Demarcus Denarius versus from Chicago, Illinois, Tyrone Jackson, who's going to be able to grunt and throw each other around.

00:49:28.000 And you know what else about the.

00:49:30.000 You know, it would be one thing.

00:49:31.000 It would be one thing if they just shot the football game and it was just the football game.

00:49:35.000 That would be one thing.

00:49:36.000 But on top of that, it's the commentary, it's the commercials every 10 seconds, and the commercials, really.

00:49:43.000 It's like.

00:49:44.000 Football today is the perfect neoliberal hell where you sit down, you know, you sit down on your cotch and you just let it wash over you, stuffing your face, drinking your beer.

00:49:56.000 And look, not that there's anything wrong with like watching the game with your buddies, but not only is it this very sedentary, and I'm talking about people that obsess over it, that it's like the game, the game, the statistics, they know all the statistics.

00:50:07.000 And you sit there and you watch the game and you let it wash over you. 0.98

00:50:11.000 And then on top of it, if it wasn't enough that it's football, on top of it, it's black athletes that hate you. 0.98

00:50:17.000 You're watching them, you're wearing their names on the back of your clothes, and they hate you. 0.99

00:50:22.000 They think you're a racist. 0.99

00:50:23.000 They think your heroes are genocidal maniacs. 0.98

00:50:26.000 I mean, they hate your country and your flag.

00:50:29.000 And you sit there with their names on your back of your jersey, which you paid $60 for, and you watch them on television, stunting around, throwing each other around.

00:50:38.000 And then, if that's not good enough, on top of that, then it's interrupted every five minutes, like Harrison Bergeron, with the noises in the ear, with the commercials.

00:50:46.000 You know, all new. 0.82

00:50:47.000 Wells Fargo, homosexual day, all new. 1.00

00:50:50.000 Bank of America, your daughter is a boy, and your boy's your daughter. 1.00

00:50:55.000 Brand new. 1.00

00:50:56.000 Doritos, have casual sex with strangers, buy the new Dorito chip. 0.97

00:51:01.000 Honda Civic. 0.99

00:51:02.000 Drive around with your race mixing couple and your polyamorous relationships. 1.00

00:51:07.000 It's the new normal. 1.00

00:51:09.000 So, if it's not bad enough that you have all of this stuff, I don't know.

00:51:14.000 And the best is how do they build the stadiums with your tax dollars?

00:51:14.000 I don't know.

00:51:18.000 And that's cronyism.

00:51:21.000 So, I'm very, again, maybe it's not anti football, it's anti NFL, it's anti the sports industrial complex, if you will, which is just the epitome of what's going wrong here.

00:51:34.000 So, you can have your game.

00:51:35.000 You can watch, hey, go to the park and watch low.

00:51:38.000 You should go to your local park, set up a league, set up a softball league, set up a local tag football league if you're a younger guy.

00:51:45.000 If you're older, go and watch the younger guys play the football.

00:51:47.000 Cheer on the hometown people.

00:51:49.000 You know, Johnny from the neighborhood, he's the best hitter in Chicago.

00:51:52.000 You know, do that kind of thing, but don't turn on the television and that ritual.

00:51:57.000 It's so, so not right, so corrupt.

00:52:02.000 So, I don't know who's playing in the Super Bowl.

00:52:04.000 To answer your question, I'm not, you know who I'm rooting for in the Super Bowl?

00:52:07.000 I'm rooting for.

00:52:08.000 For the human spirit.

00:52:09.000 And to be a little dramatic there.

00:52:12.000 The Daily Oven.

00:52:13.000 How much Anthony Fantano do you watch?

00:52:15.000 Be honest.

00:52:16.000 I watch him occasionally.

00:52:19.000 I watch him from time to time.

00:52:21.000 I watch his album reviews when it's something I like.

00:52:24.000 So, like, I watched his album review of Life of Pablo, of course.

00:52:27.000 I watched his album review of Damn by Kendrick Lamar.

00:52:31.000 And for.

00:52:33.000 What was the other one that I watched?

00:52:37.000 The new.

00:52:38.000 Tyler the Creator album.

00:52:39.000 And I know people say, oh, well, you listen to rap music and they hate you too. 0.95

00:52:43.000 And I guess that's a little bit hypocritical.

00:52:44.000 I would just say that the investment is a little bit different.

00:52:49.000 So I guess I can see it. 0.96

00:52:50.000 It's a little bit hypocritical. 0.66

00:52:52.000 We're all products of our time. 0.78

00:52:54.000 We're all sinners.

00:52:55.000 So I'm not hitting the people who do this.

00:52:57.000 I'm hitting the industry, the premise of it itself, of NFL.

00:53:01.000 That might sound like a cop out, but we don't want to hit the people because people watch their football.

00:53:05.000 They want to break from it all.

00:53:06.000 We don't want to hit them. 0.98

00:53:07.000 We want to hit the people that make this continue to go on.

00:53:11.000 Bill Raffle, Trump released the fake news awards.

00:53:14.000 Well, let's check Twitter.

00:53:15.000 Let's check Twitter and see what we have going on here.

00:53:21.000 My computer's a little bit slow here, so bear with me.

00:53:24.000 I'm working on it, I have all of my parts picked out for the America First supercomputer.

00:53:29.000 The America First supercomputer has been constructed virtually.

00:53:33.000 We have all the parts together.

00:53:34.000 It's just a matter of getting them and then putting the computer together.

00:53:37.000 Wish me luck on that one.

00:53:39.000 You know, boomer tech over here.

00:53:40.000 I'll be trying to connect wires and I'll have a hammer and a screwdriver putting this thing together.

00:53:47.000 So let's see.

00:53:49.000 Donald Trump says, All right, and the fake news winners are.

00:53:52.000 And so we have from GOP.com.

00:53:55.000 Uh oh, 404 error.

00:53:59.000 What's going on, fellas?

00:54:01.000 So Donald Trump tweets that he's posted the fake news awards, but the link does not appear to be working here.

00:54:08.000 Let's see.

00:54:12.000 All right, well, we'll have to cover it tomorrow because I'm not going to spend the whole time looking around for this.

00:54:17.000 And let's see, we have Theodora who says, what does that say? 0.58

00:54:23.000 Something for Helleno Christian nationalism.

00:54:26.000 I guess shekels for Helleno Christian nationalism. 0.99

00:54:29.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:54:30.000 You got to support Christian, a Helleno Christian, I guess, nationalism, maybe a more Western flavor of, a Faustian flavor of Christian nationalism.

00:54:39.000 Pirate Falago says Worski debate proposal topics, statehood for Puerto Rico.

00:54:44.000 Boo, boring.

00:54:46.000 But he says, you against Styx could be an interesting flashpoint for the Civnat slash libertarian question.

00:54:53.000 He's also a Satanist, which might be neat.

00:54:55.000 I debate him on the Satanist question.

00:54:56.000 I think that might be more interesting.

00:54:58.000 The statehood for Puerto Rico, I don't know.

00:55:00.000 I think everybody understands that that's a power play by the Democrats, even if it's not about demographics.

00:55:05.000 Rick M. debate destiny on voter ID laws.

00:55:08.000 It should be easy and entertaining.

00:55:09.000 I hate destiny.

00:55:10.000 I refuse to debate with him anymore because he argues in bad faith.

00:55:14.000 You say one thing and he goes, So you're saying this?

00:55:18.000 You know, I would say America is historically and culturally a Christian and white nation.

00:55:24.000 So black people aren't Americans?

00:55:26.000 No, not what I said. 1.00

00:55:28.000 You know, black people are subhuman, and you want to know, no, Destiny, you're not listening to what I'm saying, so that's why we can't have a repeat of that. 1.00

00:55:36.000 I did say, though, I would play that game. 1.00

00:55:38.000 There's this game called Bomb Diffuser, and somebody suggested that me and Destiny play it together on like a live stream, which I think would be hilarious, so I would be down to do that.

00:55:51.000 LC 1707, you missed a super chat last night from Rick.

00:55:54.000 I'll go back and I'll get that once I finish these.

00:55:59.000 John Shepard Smith, alleged Chinese mole in the CIA.

00:56:02.000 Is a Chinese immigrant?

00:56:04.000 Should naturalized citizens have classified security clearances or should you have to be born here? 1.00

00:56:09.000 You should have to be born here. 0.99

00:56:11.000 It really is to be foreign born and to get a security clearance. 1.00

00:56:16.000 Doesn't that set off alarm bells with reasonable people?

00:56:19.000 You know, shouldn't you have kind of a default position that there is prejudice, that there is dual allegiance?

00:56:26.000 If you come from one country, you come to another and you become a national security advisor.

00:56:30.000 And think of how that would work in any other country.

00:56:32.000 If I went to China, Would I be granted top security clearance if I went to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia?

00:56:38.000 No chance.

00:56:40.000 So, yeah, none of the. 0.99

00:56:41.000 If you have a dual citizenship, if you're not naturalized, you should not have a security clearance. 0.98

00:56:48.000 Tom O'Neill, Nick, who has a better chance of winning an Olympic gold medal in bobsledding? 0.75

00:56:53.000 Jamaica, North Korea, or Senate Democrats?

00:56:56.000 Love you, man.

00:56:56.000 Love you too, Tom.

00:56:58.000 That's an interesting question.

00:56:59.000 I would have to say it would be.

00:57:01.000 Hmm.

00:57:02.000 That's a tough question.

00:57:03.000 I would have to say it might be.

00:57:05.000 Jamaica, because of the movie, because of Cool Runnings. 0.99

00:57:08.000 What a shitty movie, to be honest.

00:57:10.000 Sorry if you don't like that movie, but those kinds of cult classics, I'm just not into. 0.97

00:57:15.000 I guess if a lot of people like a movie, I'd stop liking that movie.

00:57:20.000 Kind of like Jordan Peterson.

00:57:21.000 I liked Jordan Peterson when nobody knew about him, and then when he blew up, I was like, yeah, if this many people like him, he's probably not that great.

00:57:28.000 The reason I believe this is because to have mass appeal, for the most part, for the most part, few exceptions, but there are exceptions.

00:57:36.000 To have mass appeal, to have that kind of a thing, you can't say anything really controversial.

00:57:41.000 You can't really say anything that may be true, but people would not want to hear.

00:57:46.000 And so that's generally my wisdom on that.

00:57:49.000 Generally speaking, there are exceptions.

00:57:51.000 I think Trump is a great exception.

00:57:53.000 But generally speaking, it's difficult to tell the truth, even when it might go against the grain and you have a massive following.

00:58:00.000 And so let's go and rescue Rick's super chat, which I missed from yesterday.

00:58:05.000 Let's find this.

00:58:07.000 From over here.

00:58:09.000 Let's take a look.

00:58:12.000 So we got to go back to the 16th with Rick Smith, who says, James said your title was offensive, but he's the one who wasn't smart enough to follow the rules on Twitter and got himself banned. 0.71

00:58:23.000 Well, that's a very true point.

00:58:25.000 And that wasn't even the reason why he stated that he wanted the title changed initially.

00:58:30.000 He texted on the Flock channel at 5 a.m., and I was sleeping like a little baby.

00:58:36.000 He texted, Oh, by the way, I changed the title of the video because I didn't want it to hurt Paul Nealon's reputation, which is a fair suggestion if he had suggested it.

00:58:44.000 But what he didn't know is that I asked Paul Nealon what he thought of the title, and he said it was fine.

00:58:48.000 I said, Paul, we titled the video Paul Nealon on the Tribe.

00:58:51.000 Is that okay with you?

00:58:52.000 He said, Yes.

00:58:54.000 Did that appear in the James Alsop setting the record straight video?

00:58:58.000 Did that appear there?

00:58:59.000 Because I have the screenshot.

00:59:01.000 So a lot of things seem to have been curiously left out of the James setting the record straight video.

00:59:06.000 I have all kinds of people saying, Oh, I guess there's two sides to every story.

00:59:09.000 Oh, I didn't watch James Alsop's stream or his video.

00:59:12.000 I'm sorry I took Nick's side initially.

00:59:15.000 You know, it's kind of funny.

00:59:16.000 Do people think that James is not going to spin it James' way on James' channel?

00:59:20.000 Seems to be a lot of details left out there, but don't want to get into that.

00:59:24.000 Don't want to get into that.

00:59:26.000 But the important thing is, we're moving on.

00:59:28.000 The important thing is, we're taking the high road, right?

00:59:31.000 So, no, we're going to fight to win on that one.

00:59:34.000 But it looks like those are all our super chats.

00:59:36.000 Let me check and see so we don't have another Rick episode here where I miss one.

00:59:42.000 And then we'll call it an evening.

00:59:44.000 So let's pull it up. 0.56

00:59:45.000 The supercomputer would have had this operation done.

00:59:48.000 In five seconds.

00:59:49.000 Okay, so it looks like we're all out of super chats in perfect timing.

00:59:52.000 Here we are at 8 01.

00:59:54.000 So it looks like that's going to do it for us here on the show tonight.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - January 17, 2018

How the Trump Doctrine Will Change The World | America First Ep. 88

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