ITS OVER: Trump Arraigned, Responds With Gay Speech, Dooming America Forever | America First Ep. 1142ITS OVER: Trump Arraigned, Responds With Gay Speech, Dooming America Forever | America First Ep. 1142
Trump pleads not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records and conspiracy to obstruct justice in the first degree. He could face a maximum sentence of 136 years in prison if convicted on all the charges. A massive protest in support of Trump took place in New York City and in support for him was held outside of the Manhattan District Attorney s office in support. Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, has been accused of paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet about an alleged affair she had with Trump. Cohen has denied the allegations and says they are false and defamatory. Trump is also alleged to have conspired with others to influence the outcome of the presidential election in order to silence a woman who says she had an affair with Trump in the early 2000s with an attorney representing him, and that he conspired to have her silence about it in order for him to win re-election in 2016. The charges against Trump carry a maximum penalty of up to 136 years behind bars if convicted, but a sentence of that is less than that could be significantly less than the maximum sentence he could be served. This episode is brought to you by the Daily Caller and the New York Times, and is produced by ProPublica, and produced in partnership with the Daily Wire, and edited by Jack Posobiec, a law firm specializing in the media and public relations firm. Please rate and review this episode on Apple Podcasts, and share it on your social media accounts. We re listening to this episode of the podcast! and we re sharing it with your friends, family, family and colleagues! and your thoughts on it on social media! Thanks for listening and sharing it on all of your responses to this podcast. . Thank you so much for all your support and your support! ! Tweet me if you like the podcast or any of your thoughts, suggestions, suggestions or thoughts on the episode on the podcast and in the comments section! if it helps us spread the word out there! or your thoughts about it! , we re listening :) , and tweet us out there to someone else listening to the podcast :) or you re listening and posting it on Insta or , or is a tweet about it :) and you re reading this episode? & we re watching it tweet me or sharing it .
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00:00:02.000Anyway, so I want to give my thoughts on the speech but I first want to set it up by talking about the charges.
00:00:09.000We've been covering this for a long time so I feel like a lot of people know the basics.
00:00:13.000We covered it all week, two weeks ago, we covered it Friday, we covered it yesterday, we covered it a little bit yesterday.
00:00:22.000So it was announced, well there were rumors two weeks ago that Donald Trump was being charged in Manhattan by this District Attorney Alvin Bragg with some kind of crime related to Stormy Daniels.
00:00:36.000And you know it's funny because the first show that we talked about this I went live and I said I don't even really know what the crime is necessarily.
00:00:44.000Is it a crime to secure silence from some sexual accuser?
00:00:51.000You could say it's immoral, you could say it's maybe inappropriate or shady, but it's definitely not, as far as I know, criminal.
00:01:01.000And so as the weeks went on, it was revealed through rumors and through leaks that came out of that district attorney's office that it was about the falsification of records and maybe something pertaining to campaign finance.
00:03:02.000Former President Donald Trump pleaded not guilty in New York City on Tuesday to 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree.
00:03:11.000The charges carry a maximum sentence of 136 years in prison, although the actual sentence will likely be far less if he is convicted on any or all counts.
00:03:23.000Falsifying business records is typically a misdemeanor charge in New York but rises to the level of a felony with a maximum of a four-year sentence when a defendant's intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
00:03:52.000He's being charged with 34 felonies but it rises to a felony if this is done to conceal another crime or if it's being done with an intent to commit another crime.
00:04:05.000That secondary crime has not been revealed.
00:04:14.000We don't know though why it's a felony.
00:04:19.000They should be misdemeanor, again, but we don't know what the secondary crime is that makes it rise to that level.
00:04:25.000The Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg was asked by reporters at a press conference why the second concealed crime was not specified in the indictment.
00:04:35.000Bragg said, quote, let me say as an initial matter that the indictment doesn't specify it because the law does not so require.
00:04:44.000Typical uppity attitude from this type.
00:04:50.000He says, in my remarks I mentioned a couple of laws which I will highlight again now.
00:04:54.000The first is New York state election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means.
00:05:02.000I further indicated a number of unlawful means, including false statements, including statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities.
00:05:09.000I also noted the federal election law cap on contribution limits.
00:05:14.000So again, he's sort of implying that this has to do with election law.
00:05:19.000That the secondary crime that makes these misdemeanors a felony is that the contribution or rather the payment to Stormy Daniels in some ways constitute a campaign spending activity or maybe it's the deception to tax officials.
00:05:38.000Again, according to FEC regulations, I'm not exactly sure
00:05:45.000What exactly is this case they're building?
00:05:48.000The implication is that it's something to do with campaign finance.
00:05:52.000Again, according to the statement, he says, well, I'm not going to release it because I don't have to, because the law does not require, does not so require.
00:06:00.000I love when black people talk like that.
00:06:02.000It really makes them sound intelligent when they say that, which is the intention, of course.
00:06:07.000So, you know, he says, well I don't need to say it because I don't have to.
00:06:14.000But he's hinting at, he says, as I indicated, he's talking about election laws.
00:06:20.000So apparently it's got something to do with that.
00:06:23.000He accused Trump and his associates of employing a catch-and-kill scheme to bury potentially damaging information ahead of the 16th election.
00:06:34.000He said Trump went to great lengths to hide his conduct, causing dozens of false entries in his business records to conceal criminal activity, including attempts to violate state and federal election laws.
00:06:46.000In total, 34 false entries were made in New York business records to conceal the initial $130,000 covert payment.
00:06:55.000The indictment comes after a years-long investigation by Manhattan prosecutors into hush money payments that the former president allegedly made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.
00:07:06.000Both women have alleged that they had affairs with Trump, which he denies.
00:07:10.000Federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York decided in 2019 not to charge with any crimes related to the payment, and an investigation by the FEC was also closed without any charges.
00:08:26.000Lawfare, which means warfare by legal means, or rather by using the law, not by legal means would be like, I don't know, yelling at somebody.
00:08:36.000But lawfare, using the law and using lawyers to wage warfare, it's the process that is the point.
00:08:46.000A lot of people think that it is about the conviction and about the sentencing,
00:08:51.000People are talking about, is Trump going to go to jail?
00:09:46.000It's a strategy, and the strategy is meant to... it's essentially meant to distract people, drain their resources.
00:09:55.000It is meant to put somebody in legal jeopardy.
00:09:58.000Ultimately, in some cases, not all cases, the intention is to put them behind bars.
00:10:06.000A lot of times the intention isn't even necessarily to win.
00:10:10.000It's not even if it's a civil matter to win money or to win the case and a criminal matter.
00:10:16.000Sometimes it's not even about getting a guilty verdict or about getting somebody in jail.
00:10:23.000A lot of times it is just about the ordeal of the legal process.
00:10:28.000That is just as much and again in many cases that that's the only point.
00:10:33.000And so when Trump is undergoing something like this, when we say it's weaponization of the judiciary, this is following a long train of events.
00:10:41.000And I don't particularly care for the way the president recounts this history here, because I think he does it in a very repetitive and boring way.
00:10:52.000But it is important to restate how we got here, which is that it has been an unrelenting
00:11:30.000Which is to say that when you cannot beat Trump, you know, Trump won the election in 16 and so he was there for four years.
00:11:38.000If you can't get him out, they knew they were never going to impeach him.
00:11:42.000They knew that even if Mueller and the special counsel and the DOJ, even if they recommended charges, they had no power to remove Trump from office.
00:13:09.000That when you think about the science and the actual practical process of governing, it is meant to thwart and halt and retard and sabotage that.
00:13:37.000But these other guys, like a Michael Flynn or like a Roger Stone, they have to mount a legal defense that may cost hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.
00:13:47.000And if it goes on for years in those cases, ordinary people don't have the money for that.
00:13:53.000And by the same token, they also don't have the benefit of the bully pulpit like Trump does.
00:13:59.000Trump can fly in on his plane and give a speech at his club and he can raise money for all of that and he can push back on his own platform.
00:14:07.000With millions or hundreds of millions of people watching, watching the replay, a guy like Michael Flynn or Roger Stone or whomever else, these people cannot defend themselves in the press, cannot raise money like that, cannot afford financially to put on a legal defense for a long time, and they're in the same kind of legal jeopardy.
00:14:32.000And this is the hack that the system, that the left has figured out, is they have an infinite resource glitch.
00:14:39.000The Department of Justice has infinite resources.
00:14:43.000When they needed to track down over 1,000 people at the Capitol, they went out and they hired 1,000 FBI agents and 500 lawyers and judges just to focus on this case, just to focus on this investigation.
00:15:00.000And when a Baked Alaska or a Jacob Chansley or whatever, when these people are being prosecuted, Baked Alaska's got to put up a give-send-go.
00:15:12.000And he's got to raise whatever meager funds he can with whatever lawyer he can find while he's unemployable, while he's being hit in the press.
00:15:37.000All they do is just sue you into the ground, prosecute you into the ground, and they can destroy your life, your family, break apart your marriage, have you be forced to sell your home, all these kinds of things, and you may not even be guilty.
00:15:54.000So that is what we're talking about here.
00:15:57.000And that's going on, this is like a next level for Trump, of course, as the president.
00:16:03.000When they appoint a special counsel, and they do an impeachment, and they do the select committee, and now they're doing this, this is lawfare.
00:16:13.000And it's important for people to understand, because I think that's a point that maybe isn't discussed enough.
00:17:36.000And if you think that, on one hand, it's going to benefit him in the campaign, there's some truth to this, because this will bring a lot of free, earned media to him.
00:17:48.000The media, of course, covered everything that happened today.
00:18:11.000Under the jeopardy of very serious legal consequences to deal with this matter among potentially several others, which there's also going to be charges in Georgia and maybe two matters covered by the DOJ, which is January 6th and the handling of classified documents.
00:18:52.000Even this unrelenting attack in the press about how it was an attack on our democracy and all of that, he still is the most popular politician in America.
00:19:02.000Highest favorability of any mainstream politician.
00:19:06.000Highest approval rating in the GOP in years.
00:19:20.000Again, it's all part of the same thing.
00:19:23.000Although, this is also an escalation because he is an ex-president and they're filing charges against him like he's just some other civilian.
00:19:47.000They say that he's got these misdemeanors for falsification of records and that very well may be the case, but they're charging him with a felony.
00:19:56.000And they're saying that it is a felony because he falsified records for some concealed crime they won't tell us apparently because they just don't have to?
00:20:05.000Probably they're not telling us because it's bullshit.
00:20:08.000Probably they're concealing it until the last possible moment, which I don't know precisely when that is.
00:20:15.000But they're going to leave it concealed because it is probably a completely flimsy case.
00:21:11.000He said, quote, if I had to characterize it, it's disappointment.
00:21:14.000I think everyone was hoping we would see more about the direction they intend to take with this prosecution.
00:21:19.000What is the legal theory that ties the very solid misdemeanor case, 34 counts of misdemeanors, to the intent to conceal another crime, which is what would make it a felony?
00:21:33.000It's possible the DA has an elaborate and solid theory that's backed up by a lot of evidence and he has just decided to conceal that at this point.
00:21:41.000That would be a strange decision on his part.
00:21:43.000But nevertheless, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
00:21:47.000At the end of the day, if all of our legal friends read this indictment and don't see a way to have a felony, it's hard to imagine convincing a jury that they should get there.
00:21:57.000Earlier in their coverage, legal analyst Kerry Cordero told Jake Tapper, quote, in terms of a case being brought against a former president, it's underwhelming.
00:22:08.000There's not more violations, tax violations.
00:22:11.000There's not an incredible new set of facts we didn't know about publicly.
00:22:15.000It's really the facts of this case as they've existed for seven years.
00:22:22.000Again, which according to the other report,
00:22:26.000The Manhattan DA decided not to charge him for this in 19 and the FEC also investigated and declined to charge as well.
00:22:34.000Same set of facts which have already been dismissed by two separate entities.
00:22:40.000Here we are again with the same information.
00:22:43.000Fellow legal analyst Elliot Williams said the unsealed indictment doesn't say a lot.
00:22:48.000Ellie Honig, a legal analyst at CNN who earlier hyped the Trump indictment as the Super Bowl, acknowledged the, quote, complicated legal question in making misdemeanor crimes a felony, saying the indictment does not specify that the crime justifies or does not specify the crime that justifies the felony charges.
00:23:10.000There are documents that do corroborate the fact that money was paid, but they don't even necessarily show Donald Trump's involvement in it.
00:23:17.000CNN political director David Chalian pointed out that there was nothing new in the charges and that Trump and his allies will quadruple down in their assertion that Bragg brought about a political prosecution.
00:23:30.000He said there are no additional goods in these documents that would prevent him from doing that.
00:24:19.000They falsified what the payment was under the pretext of reimbursing, well, they reimbursed Michael Cohen indirectly by calling it a legal fee.
00:24:28.000And so you could say that that is your, that's your misdemeanor, that's your falsifying records, that's the case.
00:24:35.000When we say there's no case here, what we're talking about specifically is that in New York State, this needs to have that concealed aspect of it, which has not been revealed to us, that makes them felony charges, which is what they are.
00:24:51.000And as I said, most likely that is not going to happen.
00:24:56.000He is not concealing the concealed charge.
00:25:00.000For any reason other than it probably sucks.
00:25:03.000It is probably a completely convoluted case that the FEC declined to charge, that Manhattan declined to charge in 2019 because it isn't there.
00:25:15.000And he will not reveal that because this is a political circus.
00:25:20.000This is about forcing him to undergo this ordeal.
00:25:23.000Probably when we see the charge, it'll be a joke.
00:25:30.000But all of that won't matter because, again, that is not the point of this.
00:25:35.000The point of this is to make him undergo this from last week or two weeks ago, whenever this started, until December 4th.
00:25:43.000December 4th is when they hold their next hearing, which is going to take place exactly two months before the primaries begin and in the middle of the initial debates, which are the most important ones.
00:25:56.000So when you say this is political, it's almost undeniable that it's political.
00:26:01.000Some people are saying things like, well, well, what if he's guilty?
00:26:18.000But for example, I saw Destiny went on Tim Pool.
00:26:23.000And I keep using Destiny as a little bit of a punching bag because to me he epitomizes not the liberal position, but the government apologist position.
00:26:33.000I don't even see him as an ideological progressive or liberal.
00:26:37.000Fundamentally, he is an apologist for the regime.
00:26:40.000Whatever the regime says, he will defend.
00:26:44.000Whether it's Ukraine, or it's BLM, or whatever it is.
00:26:50.000If it's Trump being investigated for mishandling of classified documents, the day after on his stream suddenly he's an expert on handling classified documents and it's such a grave threat to our nation.
00:28:06.000Looking at it strictly on the facts, this is, for all the aforementioned reasons, indisputably a political case.
00:28:14.000If the Department of Justice wanted to bring charges about January 6th, and they had, for example, a text message where Trump says, hey, tell them to enter the building.
00:28:27.000If they have a text where Trump texts Enrique Tarrio and says, alright, it's MAGA night at the White House, send in the Proud Boys to invade the- If they had that, and if they charge him for that, then you would have a case.
00:29:47.000On the question, though, about charging Trump and him being above the law or something, actually, yes, there is a different consideration for a former head of state.
00:30:19.000The President, being delegated authority by the Constitution, is standing in as the Sovereign of America.
00:30:28.000The idea that the sovereign of America would be put in jail or dragged before a court for a low-level misdemeanor or even a felony is a joke.
00:30:42.000There is a reason the Constitution says that the President can only be charged for high crimes.
00:30:48.000The President cannot be charged for little things when he's in office.
00:30:52.000He certainly should not be charged with those kinds of things when he's out of office.
00:30:57.000And it says something very despicable about the institutions.
00:31:00.000It's almost like you want to talk about an attack on our democracy to the extent that we have one.
00:31:09.000Forcing the president to go before a jury is an attack on the republic.
00:31:15.000The President was voted in by the people.
00:31:18.000The people voted for this man in 2016 to become the President.
00:31:23.00075 million people voted for him to be re-elected.
00:31:28.000And in doing so, the people were voting for him to enforce the Constitution, which is our contract between the sovereign people and the government.
00:31:40.000The idea then that some district attorney in a liberal jurisdiction like that would drag this guy before the courts, especially while he's running, but even still, after the presidency, is a betrayal of the people.
00:32:59.000And when the president embodies the American society for four years, the idea that that just goes away, and it's like, well, I'm back to reality now.
00:33:26.000The President gets Secret Service detail.
00:33:28.000And he shouldn't be charged with stupid crimes like this because once you become the President, you never un-become the President.
00:33:36.000Once you capture 25% of the population voting for you, 60 million, 75 million votes, and then you go out and represent the American nation to the world and domestically,
00:33:53.000You then are entitled to live in esteem for the rest of your life.
00:33:59.000And that's for the dignity of the office, that is for the dignity of the voters, that is for the dignity of the nation.
00:34:05.000But we have lost any semblance of that kind of idea.
00:34:10.000And I would challenge people to think about this.
00:34:13.000Because according to our idea of what our country is, then we should agree with Destiny, and we should agree with Kamala Harris, and we should agree with Tim Pool, and we should say, yeah, the President shouldn't be above the law.
00:34:29.000The government should be housed in a Walmart building, because they work for us!
00:34:35.000And the President should not have a security detail, because once he leaves office, he's just like the rest of us!
00:34:43.000And that is such a vulgar and disgusting and perverse idea, and it's a liberal idea.
00:34:50.000And that is the idea that I think, if you follow it to its logical conclusion, that is what we have been brought up believing about our system, about the American creed,
00:35:02.000But when you think about it, I think any noble person, any person with common sense would say that is a revolting idea.
00:35:11.000It's a disgusting idea that the American leader would be subject, even to the kind of slander he is, these big inflatable balloons where they make a Trump baby with shit in his diaper and make a giant balloon out of it and put it at CPAC, or they make him like a rat.
00:35:31.000Or they go out and you've got Stormy Daniels, a porn star, who's calling herself a cum dumpster on Twitter, by the way.
00:36:34.000We're gonna throw Trump in the courts like he's some, you know?
00:36:38.000We're gonna throw him in the courts with handcuffs on and everything like he's just some common criminal?
00:36:46.000Now add to that, and this is without even talking about the state of things, which is that common criminals don't even get this treatment anymore.
00:36:58.000But I would just challenge people to think that
00:37:01.000Logically, according to our self-conception as a democratic nation, we're a nation of laws.
00:37:09.000And according to the logical, consistent approach to this, we would say something like, no president should be above the law.
00:37:16.000At the same time, I think we find the idea repugnant that he wouldn't be above the law.
00:37:21.000And so we need to rethink our institutions and that
00:37:25.000That first principle of equality and all these kinds of things because in our heart of hearts we know it just isn't so and we know it's not right.
00:37:37.000We know there is something not noble and there is something offensive and there's something that is contrary to the spirit of having a society that the national leader, the world leader, Donald Trump
00:37:53.00075 years old will be thrown in front of a court like this over a misdemeanor, over a scandal.
00:37:59.000Scandals like this, for a king, you forget them.
00:38:03.000Corruption, treason, he should be beheaded.
00:38:07.000But a scandal like this should be forgotten, it should never be spoken of, let alone talked about in the press.
00:38:56.000And he is entrusted with enforcing the law, protector of the realm, all of these things.
00:39:04.000And insofar as he is not corrupt or committing treason, then he should be afforded the respect that that position and that office deserves.
00:39:15.000The position of emperor, the position of king.
00:39:20.000It's no different than seeing children disrespect their parents, or students disrespecting a teacher, or even just young people disrespecting the elderly.
00:39:28.000Why is it offensive when some black hooligan punches an 80-year-old Asian guy?
00:39:34.000It's more offensive that they hit somebody elderly than if they hit somebody who's younger.
00:39:40.000And it's not just that the elderly are defenseless often.
00:39:45.000It's because we all understand that the elderly should be respected.
00:41:13.000The other thing I want to get to is about anarcho-tyranny, and I heard that Tucker talked about that tonight, and that angle isn't lost on me either.
00:41:21.000And I don't think that's particularly prescient, although it is true.
00:41:25.000In Chicago, as an example, our mayoral race was today, and this progressive teacher, black teacher just won, although it's not finished yet, but they're projecting that he'll win.
00:42:55.000And so, at the same time that Capitol rioters are being rounded up and thrown in jail, at the same time that Donald Trump is being dragged before a court for falsifying a business record seven or eight years ago, at the same time that all of that is going on, you've got murderers, you've got people that are stealing cars, you've got people that are going in and doing smash-and-grab robberies that don't even get apprehended.
00:43:24.000You've got a quarter of a million people every month walk across the border, and a percentage of them don't even see a Border Patrol agent.
00:43:32.000And when they do get caught, they get released!
00:43:37.000So things that will get you in trouble, being the president and falsifying a business document 10 years ago.
00:43:45.000Things that will not get you in trouble, murder, grand theft auto, coming into America illegally, even surrendering to border patrol as you come across legally, being a drug dealer.
00:44:27.000People have to have laws that govern their conduct.
00:44:32.000And laws don't mean anything unless they are enforced.
00:44:36.000Unless there are consequences for breaking them.
00:44:39.000And right now, we have terrible laws, and the ones we do have aren't being enforced, and we also happen to be getting rid of the people that would be tasked with enforcing them, which are the police.
00:44:52.000And as a result, dealing drugs, consuming drugs, not a crime.
00:45:02.000Pornographers, people that lure children into the business of making pornography, or luring children into consuming pornography, or getting engaged in other forms of sex trafficking, which that's one of them, not a crime.
00:45:20.000But Donald Trump, who has built skyscrapers and been an entertainer for decades and ran for president and did great things as the president, well, he is going to go to jail.
00:45:32.000And that's because the law and the enforcement of it and the purpose of it has been completely perverted and inverted.
00:45:41.000And now you have a situation where the most heinous crimes aren't even crimes.
00:46:10.000They're now talking about reparations, putting a question about slavery on the census.
00:46:16.000So, people will be punished for being patriotic, productive, proud of their people, they'll be punished for having children, they'll be punished for engaging in economic activity which hurts the climate, and people will be rewarded for being unproductive, criminal, lazy, stupid, entitled, every other kind of thing.
00:46:40.000The country's totally messed up, and this is the answer to left-wing radicalism, is you need a far-right radicalism that says, we are going to put these people in jail.
00:46:53.000Law and order is the real call, and it's a restoring, a restoration of law and order in the moral domain, and then what flows from that is a restoration of law and order in the civic domain, because the two are related intimately.
00:47:12.000And the latter proceeds from the former.
00:47:14.000People say, we don't want to legislate morality.
00:49:12.000Anybody who wants rule of law, anybody who wants prosperity, anybody who wants these things, who does not want to live under the tyranny of a corrupt system, needs to stand with me.
00:51:51.000And so, as an outsider of the political establishment, he was speaking as a member of the society, as a concerned member of the society, coming in and addressing the so-called real issues.
00:52:05.000And it wasn't about the radical left, or Obama, or even Hillary Clinton.
00:56:21.000Because I feel like if there was any kind of meditation on something greater, or looking to something higher, something greater, he would be able to articulate
00:56:38.000The significance and the gravity of what's happening here.
00:57:11.000But I'm just so frustrated and disappointed.
00:57:17.000And it's been like this for now six years, literally six years, ever since the inauguration.
00:57:23.000It's just been one of these after the other.
00:57:26.000It's like he won, and then it's like the Holy Spirit just left, you know?
00:57:31.000It's like the Holy Spirit was with him from his announcement until his inauguration, and then it was gone.
00:57:36.000Because it seemed like he just could not make mistakes, he was just saying every right thing, making every right move, he was Teflon, he was unstoppable, he was this towering guy, and then it's like a switch was flipped,
00:57:57.000And in an instant he became an incompetent goofball.
00:58:04.000The dancing, text Trump, all this stuff.
00:58:39.000You think I didn't want Trump to come back tougher than ever on a vengeance tour and win the nomination and clinch the White House again and purge everybody?
00:59:18.000They keep talking like it's 2016 or something, they're like, well, we're back on the Trump train, we're never leaving, and this and that, and it's like,
00:59:28.000What do you see that I don't see here?
01:01:04.000We all, like a train crash in slow motion, because we all said day after day, well he's just gonna, well it's just later, well it'll happen another time.
01:02:20.000And then we saw 2020 coming with the mail-in ballots and the Red Mirage and even, stop the steal, we had Republican state legislatures in six out of six states.
01:02:52.000And then, if that wasn't bad enough, we thought, okay, well, we'll give him some time off, he'll come back, and he's fucking around with True Social, and oh my gosh, and he comes back with this lame inauguration speech, and then it's this.
01:03:29.000And, you know, don't get me wrong, I was one of these guys for a long time saying, well, there's no better option, but I mean, this isn't even a good option anymore.
01:07:08.000At the Trump party, you got Rick Grinnell, and you got Jason Miller, and you got Rob Smith, and Benny Johnson, and Jack Posobiec, and Marjorie Greene.
01:09:42.000If you've got a system where Tucker Carlson's against white identity, Marjorie Greene's at the Holocaust Museum making apologies, and they tell you, yeah, hey, it's just doing business, hey, you know what?
01:13:03.000It's hard for me to say because I'm not usually good with first impressions because I'm a very awkward person.
01:13:10.000I don't really feel comfortable around people until I know them very well.
01:13:15.000Because there's like a phase of knowing somebody where you can't really be yourself and you kind of have to just like at least I feel like this you have to kind of like smile and nod and everything and you get to a point where you're familiar and comfortable enough where you can kind of just be like you kind of be more real you know I don't know what you call that but I guess that's just human relations but
01:21:34.000You're Completely Correct That The Government And Our Heads Of State Should Be The Objects Of Admiration And Respect And Deserve Honors And Privileges.
01:22:58.000I think that this is going to be a controversial, unpopular opinion.
01:23:06.000If I'm being totally honest, I think that they should all be Novus Ordo.
01:23:11.000I think they should either all be traditional Latin, or they should all be Novus Ordo.
01:23:17.000I think that it is creating division in the church when you've got some people, because some people go out there, you have to understand this, some people go out there and they say that the Novus Ordo is not a legitimate mass.
01:23:36.000And to me, this is what is leading a lot of people into schism with the church.
01:23:41.000And some people are getting a little too trad for their own good, and they're putting that in front of what matters, which is Rome, which is the Church, which is the authority of the Pope, which is the Eucharist, and they're getting a little bit too caught up in
01:24:00.000Being the most trad or being the most whatever.
01:24:03.000I've heard people tell me that a Novus Ordo is not a real mass.
01:24:07.000And that's like a, that's a heretical thing to say.
01:24:35.000And for them, it becomes more about—and it's not all of them.
01:24:38.000There are a lot of trad Catholics that are legit Catholics, and that's great.
01:24:43.000But I think that a lot of people need to be honest with themselves that there is a sect of trad Catholics where they have created this very cliquish, judgmental thing and it's this holier than thou
01:24:58.000And I think that's totally against the spirit of our mission, which is to evangelize and grow the church.
01:25:04.000And I think it's against the spirit of unity.
01:25:07.000And I also think there's a pride that's in there as well.
01:25:11.000And there's nothing inherently wrong with the Trad deal and the Trad Latin Mass and all of that.
01:25:18.000The problem is that I think people are abusing it.
01:25:20.000I think that people are abusing it and they're abusing it to sort of collect things to say, well, you know,
01:26:15.000And after Grand Rapids, I was going to go to Chicago.
01:26:17.000And I had a very tight meeting that I had to make.
01:26:20.000Now everybody wanted to go to the Super Duper Trad Latin Mass at the Cathedral in Detroit.
01:26:27.000And I said, well, and where we were, we were about an hour west of Detroit.
01:26:32.000I said, well, I said, I'm sorry guys, you have to go without me.
01:26:35.000I think I'm going to go to a Novus Ordo Mass in where we are, which was west, and then I'll drive to Grand Rapids and then drive to Chicago.
01:26:46.000And all these people get on my case, they're like, well, that's not a real mass.
01:26:54.000And I'm like, so you want me to drive an hour east, an hour west, then drive to... You want to add two hours to my commute because in your mind, the Novus Ordo Mass isn't a real mass?
01:27:07.000That's like, and that I don't like, and that like shaming, this like, oh well, you know, we're gonna look down on you if you go to the Novus Ordo Mass, that to me is a big problem.
01:27:20.000Because the Novus Ordo is a valid mass, that's where the Eucharist is, and that's what the church says, and the pastoral reforms of Vatican II are legitimate, and you don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
01:27:33.000And there's something prideful where you say, well, you know, I don't care.
01:27:36.000Well, in my opinion, it's like, well, who are you?
01:27:42.000So, and that church militant, that whole crew is very much like that.
01:27:50.000It's that like trad calf thing the Taylor Marshall types are like that and In my view that pushes people away I think that's a lot of why people have been pushed away from the church as opposed to being brought in this like sneering contemptuous like sanctimonious holier-than-thou thing it's very prideful and
01:28:16.000And in some sense, you know, I like the Orthodox, because the Orthodox are very big on the Jesus Prayer, which is, uh, Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.
01:28:29.000They have, their thing, they have a bracelet.
01:28:32.000Somebody gave me, I guess Orthodox, they don't do the rosary, they have a bracelet where they do beads and they say the Jesus prayer, I think it's ten times or something like that.
01:28:41.000And to me, my attitude towards my religion is more that.
01:28:45.000It's like, I'm a sinner, I'm not worthy, and, you know, I'm just trying to do my best.
01:28:53.000I'm just trying to evangelize, I'm trying to give a testimony of my faith,
01:29:00.000And growing the faith and all of that and I feel like other people it's like Well, I'm doing it because well, I'm actually a really good.
01:29:10.000I'm actually a real I'm the best Catholic ever I am the most trapped Catholic and to me those Those two ideas are distinct and I think it's totally against the spirit of it to be like to be so caught up in and
01:29:24.000In beads and medallions and this and that.
01:29:28.000And honestly it gives some credence to the criticisms by Protestants.
01:29:32.000I know I'm not going to be earning any... I know nobody's going to love that I say that, but...
01:29:37.000It does give some credence to some of the criticisms that Protestants make, that at a certain point, and it's not for everybody, because all of those things are enriching.
01:29:47.000The medallions, the rosary, the sacramentals, the saints, all of these things are enriching to Catholic faith.
01:29:54.000But, I feel like for some people, they're a little caught up on those things, and it does give a little credence to this idea that they're maybe missing the point.
01:30:05.000It's not to say that those things are not conducive to growing in the faith, but they're not the end in themselves.
01:30:14.000So that's my feeling on it, and that's based on my personal experience.
01:30:20.000People can disagree and they can say I'm wrong or whatever, but that's based on my personal experience because, you know, I'll tell you something.
01:30:34.000I never led a very Catholic life, okay?
01:30:38.000My family was away from the Catholic Church for... I don't want to say legitimate reasons, but you know, I didn't have a life like a lot of people have.
01:31:10.000And again, that's not to say that it's good to not be Catholic, but she had a struggle.
01:31:16.000She had her own journey and her own life.
01:31:19.000And I think as a consequence, my parents were not super Catholic.
01:31:24.000I mean, we went to church when we were kids and they put us through CCD and all of that, but I didn't really know too much about the faith or anything.
01:31:32.000And it wasn't until college when I really started down on the road towards becoming Catholic.
01:31:38.000I don't think I've ever made any pretense of being a saint.
01:31:41.000I don't think I've ever made any pretense of being the number one Catholic.
01:31:46.000I've only ever given a testimony about my beliefs, okay?
01:31:50.000That's all I've ever said, that's all I've ever tried to do on this show is speak honestly about my beliefs.
01:31:57.000And all along the way, because it's a journey like it is for everybody, and everybody's on a journey, no matter how Catholic you are, you're still on a journey.
01:32:09.000And quite honestly, as somebody that started down the path when I was 18 and I've only become more Catholic over time, Catholics, not all of them, a lot of them have been very good like classical theists and others, but some of them who are popular or famous or whatever, they've only pushed me away.
01:32:29.000Because here I am, it's like I'm somebody who is, and I don't think I've ever hid this, I'm not the most knowledgeable about it,
01:32:36.000And all I've ever gotten is this sort of sneering, like, oh F you, you don't know, oh F you, like, oh you didn't know that?
01:33:50.000And again, it's I don't want to lump in everybody because there's a lot of some of the finest people I know are very traditional Catholics and and they're not like that.
01:33:58.000Don't get me wrong I don't think it's even most of them, but there's a there's a vocal click that is very very sort of unfriendly and I would say aloof about it and and
01:34:16.000And I just think that's the wrong approach, so... And the Trad Latin Mask thing, to me, it's almost like... To me, it almost facilitates that.
01:34:26.000Because it creates this bifurcation, where it's like, you know, you got these Novus Ordo types, and then you got these Trad Latin types, and the Trad Latin types go there, and they're like, yeah, we're better than the Novus Ordo people, and it's like... I don't think there's anything productive about that.
01:34:42.000So, I think there's something dangerous in there.
01:39:00.000I remember Doyle or one of them said something like, we could maybe get a good job in the Tucker administration and these groipers want to talk about the Jews!
01:39:09.000It's like, you are like a little baby.
01:41:57.000I mean I know the Dewey Rames is translated but I think there's like there's something extra in there it's it's like a study Bible or something but it's but it is the Dewey Rames and but it's it's massive because it's got all these footnotes at the bottom that's my favorite one I have this small one I think it's New International I know that's not Catholic but I have a small one that I got in college so
01:42:28.000But the Dewey Rhames, that's the best one, apparently.
01:43:17.000He goes on Tucker and says, I'm an international Jew and the elite is decentralized and has no ethnic or national or religious character at all.
01:44:01.000I came to your conclusion about the old and new mass about a year ago the next step is that there must be a synthesis where the two become one and you can't tell them apart if that makes sense.
01:45:13.000I didn't get to read too much about it because it started right before I went live, but it's more of the same.
01:45:22.000I saw Egypt put out a statement about the Palestinians.
01:45:26.000It's the first time I think they've done that in a long time.
01:45:29.000because typically Egypt is the mediator and Egypt is of course the first nation to normalize relations with Israel first Arab nation so I don't know is it going to be more of the same or is it going to be something different this time I want I want a happening I feel like nothing ever happens but we'll see
01:49:51.000We are there... It's hard enough being a Catholic.
01:49:57.000And doing what you're supposed to do as a lay person.
01:50:01.000Nobody as a lay person is 100% completion doing what is expected of them in their role, let alone they want to take up the position of the Pope.
01:50:41.000Now don't get me wrong, I have my personal experiences which I'm relaying to you, and I think that it probably makes sense that there would be one Mass, but all I'm saying is, listen to the Pope.
01:51:02.000I don't like all this democracy business where people get up there and say, hey, in my opinion, Pope Francis sucks, and this and that, and I think it should be this way, and the mass all went wrong back then.
01:51:16.000What's the difference between you and a Seydavid contest?
01:51:28.000And some of them think the papacy stopped in the 19th century, and some of them think it stopped in the 50s, and so now it's just a matter of personal opinion again.
01:51:36.000And it's Protestantism with extra steps.
01:51:41.000No, no, no, it's not because... Really?
01:52:36.000A secret, esoteric thing that you need to discover after reading so many books and you have access to secret knowledge, I do not believe in that.
01:52:46.000And that's another issue I have with that.
01:52:50.000They go, well you just don't understand!
01:52:53.000You just gotta read this or that book.
01:57:15.000Well, all those people are just... as far as my haters go, those people are all bandwagoners.
01:57:20.000They were all bandwagoners who came on board in 2019 when it was hot, and then when it got hard, they all... when they realized that they couldn't materially benefit from it, they saw no reason to continue.
01:57:35.000Which at that point in time was the peak of my popularity and they came in when we were causing a big stir and we were the self-righteous radical well, not that we aren't anymore, but That's what was going on at the time when we sort of came out of the scene and were introduced to the world in that way and They stuck around while everybody was making money on D live and they stuck around everybody was I mean, it's it's literally like that and
01:58:25.000We never heard from Jake Lloyd again after January 6th.
01:58:28.000He wasn't even there, but we never heard from him again.
01:58:31.000And it was as simple as, uh, like, things got real, things got hard, I don't think that we're gonna be able to win, so I'm now gonna disappear.
01:58:41.000Now me, I had always talked for years saying that that was going to happen.
01:58:46.000I had said for years, I am eventually going to be banned from everything.
01:58:49.000I am eventually going to lose all my income.
01:58:52.000Eventually all of these things will happen.
01:58:54.000It happened sooner than I thought, but I always said that, and I always intended on persisting through it.
01:59:14.000He was literally there at Stop the Steal and talking about these losers in Washington and we're gonna take America back and we're not going anywhere.
01:59:22.000And then the day January 6th happened, we never heard from him again.
01:59:36.000Patrick said, oh, I don't think we should do any events anymore.
01:59:39.000I should just keep streaming and I should just
01:59:42.000We should just never show our faces in public because the dissident right is going to disappear after this.
01:59:50.000And then when I said, no, I intend to keep going and it's going to look badly on you if you don't, then he said, oh, I'm going to betray Nick Fuentes because I can't make it without him.
02:00:01.000And then with Judas it was as simple as he was a desperate horny loser who was looking for pussy and wasn't making any money on streaming because he was lazy and said oh I I just I don't know I can't I just want to get married I just want to
02:00:19.000And in other words, all of these people saw this as a vehicle for their own personal material benefit, and when it didn't provide that for a time, or when they thought that it might not provide that in the future, they said, I want no part of it.
02:00:38.000And listen, you don't join a revolutionary political movement to meet girls, okay?
02:00:42.000You don't join a revolutionary political movement to make a lot of money and have a career.
02:00:48.000But what all three of them had in common is they were all broke, didn't have a career before they joined this, didn't have career prospects before they joined this, don't have good education or anything, and they're all desperate to get married but do not have serious girlfriends.
02:01:07.000And to the extent that that was not being provided imminently, or the threat that that could not be provided imminently, they didn't want to be a part of it.
02:01:50.000And then as far as Judas, I mean, yeah, he was like carrying my bags and things like that, like when my hands were full, when we checked into hotels and stuff, like he was helpful with that, I guess.
02:02:00.000Other than that, what was the value add?
02:02:03.000I mean, he was realistically only there for one year, maybe one and a half years, because he really dropped off the grid after January 6th as well.
02:02:12.000So, and it's funny because they all expected that America First would come crashing down without them.
02:02:17.000It's like, what did you expect to happen?
02:02:19.000Did you think that people were showing up for you?
02:02:21.000What value did you think you were bringing to the table?