In this episode, we talk about the immigration executive order that the President is looking at, and why it's a good thing it's not Coronavirus. We also talk about what it means for the future of the country and the world, and the impact it can have on the way we live our lives. And, of course, we have to scrutinize exactly what the executive order will look like, because how many times have we seen this happen before? It's exciting stuff, and we're here to talk about it! America First, hosted by Nicholas J. Fuentes ( ) and Alex Blumberg ( ), is a show that focuses on the politics of politics, culture, and culture in America. It's a show about the things we should be paying attention to in order to understand what's happening in the world and in our government, and how we can make sense of it. Today's episode is about immigration and the potential impact it could have on our lives, and what it could mean for the country, and our future. We have a great show for you tonight, and I'm excited to be back with you here on America First! I'm sorry I'm a little off today, I don't know if you can hear me, but I'm going to try to get back on track with the show next week. I'll be back next week, I promise you that! Tweet me to let you know what I'm working on the next show! Timestamps: 1: 2:00 - What do you think of the immigration order? 3:30 - What kind of order would you'd like to see? 4:15 - What are you're excited about? 5:00 6:30 7:00 What are your thoughts on it? 8:20 - Is it a good idea? 9:40 - What would you like to hear from President Trump on immigration? 11:00 Is it temporary or permanent? 12:00 Do you think it would be better? 13:00 How do you feel about this? 14:00 Does it change your life? 15: Does it have any impact on the country? 16: What's your opinion on the future? 17:00 Would you want to see me tweet about it or not? 18:00 Can we get sick? 19:00 Are you excited?
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00:00:28.000And again, I don't know how well you can hear it.
00:00:30.000I can probably hear it better than you can, but
00:00:34.000My voice is like gone and I don't know if that's sickness.
00:00:38.000I don't know if that's because I've been talking so much because I streamed for eight hours on Sunday and then I streamed for three hours yesterday and I was making TikToks all morning today.
00:00:51.000And I was doing a lot of screaming this morning.
00:00:52.000Very frustrating process but you'll bear with me.
00:00:55.000I don't know if you can even hear it because sometimes I do my show and I'm sick and I feel under the weather or I hear that my voice is messed up but then I go back and watch the replay and I sound exactly the same.
00:01:08.000So I don't know if you can hear it or not but...
00:01:13.000I woke up in the afternoon, admittedly, because I was up all night working on stuff and you could see the result of that.
00:01:20.000The TikToks and some other things which you'll see maybe next week.
00:01:24.000And I wake up and, you know, I do my thing, whatever, go about my business, prepare for the show, and just before the show, I'm like, uh, Tess, hello?
00:01:33.000Anyway, but we're gonna have a good show in spite of that.
00:02:12.000It's not that the death rate is going to be much lower than they expected.
00:02:16.000The real light at the end of the tunnel is that news is going to
00:02:21.000Happen again, that we're gonna see events and things happening in the world and in our government, and that means that there's content for this show.
00:02:30.000That's the light at the end of my tunnel, which I'm excited about, and we've been seeing it slowly but surely in first the Democratic primary and then the TikTok war, and now we've got this immigration executive order, so it's exciting stuff.
00:02:45.000I know the coronavirus thing was brutal!
00:02:48.000For like a month and I don't have to tell you if you watch this show or maybe you didn't watch the show because it was all corona, then you know.
00:02:56.000But tonight we're talking about this immigration executive order.
00:03:02.000We got very excited last night when the president announced on Twitter that he was looking into or was going to sign imminently a temporary suspension of all immigration.
00:03:16.000And we got very excited last night about the prospects of an immigration ban, which may start out as temporary, but may go on longer.
00:03:24.000But even if it was temporary, it would be an improvement and maybe change the political landscape.
00:03:29.000So it was very exciting to hear that last night.
00:03:32.000But of course, today, the morning after, and in the days and weeks to come, we have to scrutinize exactly what the executive order will look like.
00:03:42.000Because how many times, how many times have we seen this?
00:03:46.000If you watch this show, or if you've just simply been an observer of politics in the Trump administration, and I wanted us to enjoy the moment last night, enjoy the meme magic, right?
00:03:58.000But we know, as astute observers of politics, particularly in this administration, that a lot of times what we see is an exciting tweet,
00:04:09.000An exciting announcement, a lot of talk, a lot of words about social media censorship, about the U.S.
00:04:17.000military presence in Syria, about a birthright citizenship executive order.
00:04:24.000We've heard a lot of this over the years.
00:04:26.000And if the president actually followed through with policy on everything that he promised, and if the policy was as good as the announcements and the tweets and the talk,
00:04:37.000Then we would have achieved everything we set out to achieve already.
00:04:49.000We would be living in a new country, but we know that this is not the case.
00:04:53.000We know that time and again we hear an announcement, and one thing is said, and then we see the paper, we see the executive order, and another thing is written, and a very different thing is enforced.
00:05:04.000So we're going to get into what exactly are the details of this executive order.
00:05:14.000We haven't actually seen the executive order yet, but we've heard from the White House and from anonymous sources potentially about what could be in it.
00:05:23.000We have a little bit of a better idea of what this is going to look like than we did last night, and who the different forces in the White House, and maybe you already understand based on the title of the show, who the different forces are in the White House and where they're pulling, where they're pushing.
00:05:58.000And if you have watched this show, you know that the attitude of the show is always generally optimistic about the overall trends, the sort of momentum of history and events.
00:06:09.000The day-to-day stuff, we have to take a balanced approach and look at what's happening.
00:06:39.000And I think that's wrong in some ways.
00:06:43.000And obviously it would be wrong to say that this is the beginning of the end to immigration.
00:06:47.000Immigration moratorium is in the works.
00:06:50.000You know, obviously that's not happening anytime soon.
00:06:52.000So we're gonna give a pretty balanced take and just look at what's out there and sort of evaluate possibilities, probabilities, what we can expect in the future.
00:07:05.000We'll also be talking about the coronavirus, but in a little bit of a new direction, I should say.
00:07:11.000You know, typically we talk about the numbers and the latest developments.
00:07:15.000We're still gonna do that, but... So I guess it's not a totally new direction, but...
00:07:20.000We have some news about reopenings and this is the big story now with the coronavirus and this is the test is to see when and how states will reopen.
00:07:33.000We heard the policy of what the reopening will look like in these three phases with the gating
00:07:40.000Benchmarks that each state has to make before they can get to phase 1, 2, and 3.
00:07:44.000Two-week decline in syndromic cases of influenza-like illnesses and coronavirus-like illnesses.
00:07:52.000A two-week decline in confirmed coronavirus cases or a decline in the proportion of positive cases to the overall rather positive tests as a percentage of overall tests.
00:08:03.000And then lastly, it's looking at hospital capacity.
00:08:08.000A surge or are handling the patients that they're currently treating.
00:08:12.000Those are the three requirements to gate to get to phase one and then you gate again to get to phase two and and then a third time to get to phase three.
00:08:20.000So we saw what the plan is now we're seeing the implementation and this is obviously where the rubber meets the road because depending on what success we see with the reopening to what extent coronavirus cases will surge
00:08:35.000How much these social distancing measures and other things will mitigate perhaps a big retaliation or a big resurgence of cases.
00:08:59.000When we shut down the country one month ago, this was under the premise that this virus had a death rate of 3%.
00:09:07.000And if 160 million people get a virus with a death rate of 3%, that is catastrophic for our country.
00:09:12.000But now that we're seeing tons of asymptomatic cases, asymptomatic carriers, and the death rate is drastically shrinking, and the projected death total is drastically going down, then clearly it's not the same virus we're talking about that we were one month ago.
00:09:28.000We've learned a lot, there's new information, and now we have to see.
00:09:37.000You know, sooner or later, you have to reopen the economy in some way and find a way to sustainably get people back to work and school and get the country moving again.
00:09:45.000But nevertheless, we have to see to what extent we are going to be able to do that without incurring massive casualties.
00:09:53.000In terms of dead or severe cases or things like that.
00:09:56.000So, it's important to talk about that.
00:11:37.000You know, we talked about this all night last night and I don't want to talk too much about it tonight, but if you saw the show yesterday or if you've been paying attention over the past two days, you know that a vigorous effort is underway.
00:11:51.000By me, and by my fellow Zoomers, to take the Gruyper War, or the Culture War, the Zoomer War, to TikTok.
00:13:40.000And so I walk into the frame, I walk up to the camera, I cross my arms, and it says, you know, the political war on TikTok has begun, and it's America first versus everybody.
00:14:04.000I don't have, like, a tripod for my phone.
00:14:06.000I don't have, like, everything you need to do to film a TikTok, so I had to kind of mess with stuff.
00:14:11.000I put... I had a table, I put a garbage can on the table, I put my... I leaned my phone on something on the garbage can so it'd be at kind of, like, eye level.
00:14:21.000I built this whole rig and I'm figuring it out and it took me like two takes to get a take that I really liked.
00:14:28.000You know, I tried maybe like one to three times to to nail this and it's not complicated stuff.
00:14:34.000I showed it to Jade and I told him about this and he's like, dude, you're just like walking.
00:14:52.000And I accidentally went back and deleted it.
00:14:55.000I don't know how this stuff works, so I'm like messing with it, I'm trying to edit it, and I accidentally delete like my favorite take, and then I'm trying to, you know, get the magic again, and I'm doing it over and over and over, and every take is bad, it's like I do this thing where I'm walking up,
00:15:12.000And I'm like opening and closing my mouth, or like, you know, I'm walking unnaturally, or I'm making like a weird face, now I'm like in my head, now I'm like, don't mess it up, don't mess it up, don't make a stupid face, you know?
00:15:25.000So I'm doing this like, I'm sweating, I'm sweating, I'm doing like 15 different takes, I'm walking, I'm messing it up, now I'm just hitting the wrong buttons, the phone falls, and so at this point I'm just losing it, I'm screaming,
00:15:41.000I'm yelling at the top of my lungs, and I'm like punching stuff, and then it gets to the point where, you know, everything's going wrong, my phone falls, the whole rig falls apart, I take the garbage can, I smash it on the ground, and I'm just, and I go to town on this garbage can, and I'm just like, oh, you know, geez, what's, what's going on, you know?
00:16:06.000But then, but as any champion does, I put the garbage can back together.
00:16:12.000I put it back on the table, I got set up again, and I got back at it, and I produced a take that was acceptable to me, but this is really outside my comfort zone.
00:17:59.000You know now I can sort of work on some other things and you know the physical and maybe more Dramatic or comedic right more film type stuff.
00:18:08.000This is just a conversation I just get on the desk, and I you know I'm having conversation, but this is more media stuff
00:18:30.000gaming and doing a lot of other stuff doing a lot of work on the website and doing some work on the merch and doing work on I've got like a million things going on right now so I'm up all night I'm doing chores I'm doing work I'm doing I I'm checking turnip prices and then you know it's in the context of this that I've got no sleeve I haven't eaten that and I'm trying to make this tick-tock anyway
00:20:07.000And you know somebody might say, and the experts might say, but you know in your heart, you know common sense tells you that these numbers are not possible.
00:20:16.000And what I'm talking about is coronavirus casualties.
00:20:22.000For over two weeks that we are in peak week and now we're out of peak week.
00:20:27.000But there's really no, as far as I'm concerned, discernible pattern to the numbers.
00:20:32.000Because the death rate for the past 24 hours is 2800.
00:20:38.000So, and I, you know, I haven't been looking too closely at coronavirus lately because I've been looking at this immigration executive order and other things.
00:20:46.000So I'm not looking at it as closely as I was last week, but, you know, outside of maybe some fluke with the data, which is possible.
00:20:56.0002,800 deaths, as far as I know, is the highest it's ever been.
00:21:00.000They said in their projections, and these were projections that had the death rate higher than they are now, they're projecting the death rate will be 60,000, and when the death rate was projected at 68,000, they said that the daily number of new cases would peak at 2150 two weeks ago.
00:21:20.000And it seems like it's been fluctuating.
00:21:22.000Some days you have a lower, a drastically lower number, and then some days it shoots back up and you reach new highs.
00:21:28.000So again, I haven't looked too closely into how they got this number, you know, because you have seen cases where they will go back in time and they will add old cases that were not counted to the daily total, which doesn't make any sense, right?
00:21:42.000I mean, that's not, that's not why we calculate the daily total.
00:21:47.000So I don't know if that's because of something like that with the numbers or what that's all about, but that's a new high and it doesn't look like it.
00:21:55.000Maybe it's stabilizing in some ways, but if you keep reaching new highs, how can you say that you've passed the peak?
00:22:00.000The definition of the peak is the maximum.
00:22:02.000How can you say you're past the peak if you're hitting new peaks or hitting new maximums?
00:22:58.000There is so much deception going on at a systemic level on every level on every level from the people that are collecting the data to the people compiling the data to the people reporting the data you know and and you know I'm sure it's out there you can find it maybe if you work really hard and if you're
00:23:17.000You know, autistically, if you're an autist on 4chan all day and you're, you know, but there is just no good source of information on this stuff.
00:23:26.000I don't know what to believe at this point, even like the economy.
00:23:30.000What's going on with the stock market?
00:23:31.000You know, the economy is a disaster and stocks up until last week, or up until this week I should say, were going up.
00:23:39.000And it's like is there no correlation anymore between like asset prices and the economy?
00:23:44.000Is the Federal Reserve, can they just print as much money as they want?
00:23:55.000But we're going to dive into the reopening and I'll read you this is a report from the New York Times on the reopenings that are taking place in the coming weeks.
00:24:05.000It says, quote, South Carolina allowed retail shops ranging from department stores to flea markets to reopen on Monday afternoon, shortly after its governor, Henry McMaster, signed an executive order reversing some of the closings he ordered earlier this month.
00:24:20.000On Friday, residents of Georgia will be allowed to return to the gym and get haircuts, pedicures, massages, and tattoos, according to Governor Brian Kemp.
00:24:30.000Next Monday, they can dine in restaurants and go to the movies.
00:24:34.000Tennessee's stay-at-home order will expire April 30th, allowing most businesses there to reopen on May 1st, according to Governor Bill Lee.
00:24:49.000These appear to be the first states that will be reopening in the country.
00:24:54.000And they're all reopening in slightly different ways, obviously.
00:24:58.000You know, Brian Kemp is opening certain parts of the country.
00:25:01.000Henry McMaster is the governor of South Carolina.
00:25:04.000They're reopening, again, certain types of businesses.
00:25:07.000In Tennessee, they just won't renew their shelter-in-place.
00:25:10.000So, it's a different reopening, and it's not maybe so meaningfully different.
00:25:15.000They're all opening, you know, these public places or different kinds of businesses.
00:25:19.000Maybe some have more options and some have less, but these are the first states where you're going to see that businesses are going in the opposite direction.
00:25:27.000In other words, then instead of things closing or remaining closed, now we're seeing people begin to re-emerge and gather again in the public square.
00:26:07.000The more the people are together, the more you'll see transmission, the more transmission, the more cases, the more cases, the more dead.
00:26:13.000You'll see resurgence in all the numbers that count with public health with coronavirus in Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee.
00:26:20.000The question though is, to what extent?
00:26:23.000Because the reason why we shut everything down, remember, the justification for shutting down the country was never that we're going to prevent coronavirus from spreading and we're going to kill coronavirus.
00:26:37.000They never said we're shutting down businesses so that people will stop getting it and people will stop dying from it and then it will cease to exist in America.
00:26:47.000That was never the point because when we defeat coronavirus is when immunity is developed and that takes years.
00:26:54.000And what was started a month ago in March was not a three-year long shutdown.
00:27:00.000It was a temporary shutdown so we could figure out more information about the disease, a lot of information gathering, a lot of coordination, logistics, things like that.
00:27:11.000But primarily, it was to flatten the curve.
00:27:46.000When you reopen, the spread will continue and it will quicken and it will be worse than it was for the past month.
00:27:54.000But the question is, did we do enough in this time?
00:27:58.000Or is the disease just less threatening than we thought previously?
00:28:02.000Such that you will not see such a dramatic spike or surge in cases that it's not going to shut down hospitals.
00:28:08.000It's not going to create a run on hospital beds and ventilators and personal protection equipment and all of this.
00:28:15.000In other words, can we reopen the economy in a way that we can keep cases low enough that they are acceptable and manageable to us?
00:28:22.000Because this is going to be with us, as I've been saying, seasonally and it'll be around
00:28:27.000But are we going to be able to keep these numbers in a way that is controlled?
00:28:30.000And if there are outbreaks, or big or bad outbreaks, can we do contact tracing, find the people who had the disease that they were exposed to other people?
00:29:13.000And, you know, I would, I would guess, I would venture to guess that you're going to see these reopenings and it's not going to be as bad as people are saying.
00:29:21.000And I know for a long time I was one of the people saying it's going to be catastrophic, it's going to be bad, and basically that was based on information that we saw in Europe.
00:29:52.000And again, that's only out of the confirmed cases, but nevertheless, everything that I was saying a month ago, people might say, oh well, that was wrong, or a lot of people have been, well not a lot, but some people have been getting on my case and saying, you were so wrong!
00:30:05.000You know, we learn information as time goes on.
00:30:07.000Of course, hindsight is going to be 20-20.
00:30:10.000The information one month ago was that this disease was going to destroy Italy, and that a million people were getting it in China, and a million people are dying in China, and so on, right?
00:30:20.000And so, I think that I've, based on the information I've been seeing over the past few weeks, I think it is absolutely manageable.
00:30:27.000I think it is absolutely not as bad as we were led to believe.
00:30:30.000Now that doesn't mean that it wasn't necessary to shut down the country, because you make decisions based on the information you have.
00:30:36.000You cannot make decisions based on information that you do not have, right?
00:30:40.000You cannot make decisions based on the future.
00:31:12.000Maybe there are hidden benefits there too.
00:31:13.000You gotta remember, we're trying to save the world here as well.
00:31:16.000Don't look at that as, oh, cynical partisanship.
00:31:19.000No, we're trying to save the world, and we should take what we can get, as far as that goes.
00:31:23.000Nevertheless, I think that once we get back, that's a little word just on predictions and whatever.
00:31:29.000You know, I still think everything was called for and all that, but...
00:31:33.000I think it will be a lot, I think it'll be a lot less severe than people think it will be once we reopen.
00:31:40.000I think that you'll see in South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia that, I mean you might, you're gonna see a spike in cases, you'll see a spike in death, nobody's disputing that, but I don't think it's gonna get to the point where, you know, for example, New York State was talking about, or I'm sorry, New York City, I think.
00:32:09.000They said they needed 140,000, so it was seven times less severe than they thought.
00:32:14.000And I think you'll see a similar thing in these other states, and the first states that reopened
00:32:20.000Either it'll go like that, it'll go very well, and other states will reopen, and people say, hey, wait a second, there's a sustainable way to do this, we can reopen, it's not as bad as we thought, or it'll get really bad really quickly, and then, you know, everybody's gonna stay on lockdown, and maybe they'll slap back on restrictions, but...
00:32:53.000And, you know, in a lot of ways what we've seen in the last 24 hours
00:32:59.000pertaining to this topic what we've seen pertaining to this topic is disappointing but not at all surprising not at all surprising and of course what am I talking about last night if you were watching the show there was a moment of great exuberance and jubilation when
00:33:19.000This was not rumored, this was not reported anywhere, announced anywhere, but the president tweeted yesterday announcing for the first time that he was going to shut down all immigration temporarily to stop the spread of the coronavirus, to halt the invisible enemy, which, you know, of all days, to talk about the invisible enemy.
00:33:39.000In order, he didn't say coronavirus, he said to fight the invisible enemy, which really makes you think.
00:33:45.000Uh, you know, he didn't say in order to fight the coronavirus.
00:33:47.000I know he's been calling the coronavirus the invisible enemy, but you know, frankly, we've got a lot of invisible enemies.
00:33:54.000We've got a lot of enemies that are invisible, that you don't see.
00:35:04.000People have talked about net zero migration.
00:35:07.000In other words, if 100,000 people leave the country in a year, then maybe we bring in 100,000 people a year.
00:35:13.000I don't know, you know, if I would pin it on a certain number, but I would say bare minimum.
00:35:18.000The bare, or not the bare minimum rather, the absolute minimum that we would need.
00:35:24.000So if that is like, and people have talked about this, maybe there's shortages or there's like, you know, something that you really need, but we're talking low low low numbers.
00:36:31.000Close to a withdrawal last summer, but we had heard about this many times over the years before it finally got actualized.
00:36:39.000And even when we did see a withdrawal from Syria, the guys in Syria went from northeastern Syria across the border to Iraq.
00:36:47.000So, I mean, that's better, but not much better.
00:36:50.000And they left behind hundreds of people anyway.
00:36:52.000And they were only like a thousand or two thousand to begin with, so proportionally that's kind of a lot.
00:36:56.000You know, and that's not to say it's better than nothing, and it's better than it was before, and it is a meaningful difference, but it was full and complete withdrawal.
00:37:05.000I remember, December 21st, 2018, Donald Trump said, a full withdrawal in 30 days.
00:37:12.000And then it was 60 days, and then it was 90 days, and then it was, well, we're just gonna figure it out at a later time, and, well, maybe it won't be a full withdrawal, maybe there'll be a residual force, and it took all the way until August to get most of the troops out of Syria and into Iraq.
00:37:27.000And so that is maybe the most notable example to me, but the wall is certainly big and there's a lot of this.
00:37:34.000But we saw that tweet and of course now we have to look at what is in the executive order.
00:37:38.000He said there'll be an executive order to shut down all immigration temporarily.
00:37:45.000And by the way, I should add that according to the Immigration and Nationality Act, the president has and has always had
00:37:55.000Complete and total authority to shut down immigration.
00:37:58.000I don't know what is going on in the White House.
00:38:00.000Obviously, it's all these pro-business, pro-immigration forces in the White House that have misled him, and GOP lawyers and GOP advisors that have told him that this is not the case, but it is made very explicit in the INA, in the Immigration Nationality Act,
00:38:18.000that the president can suspend entry of any class of immigrant for however long he wants for any reason.
00:38:26.000I mean it's like the jurisdiction the president has on this issue unilaterally vested in the executive branch and the president in particular it is so broad and I don't know why this hasn't been taken advantage of.
00:38:40.000I mean we do we jump through all these different hoops with
00:38:43.000Well, we're going to change asylum rules, or we're going to work through Congress, and Jared Kusher's going to come up with a plan, and so on.
00:39:23.000It says, quote, President Trump announced during Tuesday's White House briefing that he'll sign an executive order as early as tomorrow, suspending legal immigration of green card recipients for 60 days into the country, saying it was to help the coronavirus-battered economy, though it also furthers his ongoing agenda of limiting immigration.
00:39:43.000The order blocks permanent residency and will still allow temporary workers, many in health care and food production, but CNN citing an official in the administration reports that restrictions could hit those workers down the line as well.
00:39:56.000Trump also confirmed that a secondary order could be signed to add even more restrictions.
00:40:02.000Trump justified the order by saying he doesn't want people newly unemployed by the coronavirus to be replaced by immigrants.
00:40:09.000Trump said he would reevaluate after the 60 days, but when pressed on what conditions he would end the suspension, Trump said he could, quote, roll it for 30 days or roll it for much longer than 60 days, depending on the economy.
00:40:22.000Immigration has already seen a slowdown from the pandemic, according to NPR, with visa processing being suspended at embassies and immigration courts closing, affecting both permanent and temporary residents.
00:40:34.000So, as always, the devil here is in the details.
00:40:38.000It's a 60-day ban on green cards, but green cards are just one part of the equation.
00:40:46.000Green card is permanent residence and it's family or work-based.
00:40:50.000You also have diversity visa lottery, but primarily the two sources of the green cards, it's family-based
00:40:58.000Family-based meaning if you have an immediate relative and worker-based meaning if you have an employer that brings you in.
00:41:03.000These are the main sources of green cards.
00:41:05.000You've got more than a million green cards per year.
00:41:08.000But what this does not cover is the temporary visas, the temporary stay visas.
00:41:14.000You know, green cards are permanent residents and all the assorted other kinds of visas, H1A, H1B, F1, everything like that,
00:41:25.000These are temporary visas, where people are brought in on a temporary basis to work, or to study, or to reunite with family, or for a variety of other purposes.
00:41:36.000And this is really the big problem here.
00:41:38.000It's not to say the green cards are not a problem, but if you're not talking about these temporary visas, particularly the work visas, you're actually not doing anything.
00:41:47.000You know, like this report says, the green cards were already halted.
00:41:51.000Refugees were actually already halted.
00:41:55.000The big driver of the labor replacement that is happening is of these temporary visas.
00:42:01.000Millions of H-1B and F-1 and all these other kinds of people.
00:42:06.000I think it's H-2A is the farm workers.
00:42:15.000But what is really pushing Americans out of the workforce, the replacement program that's happening, broadly speaking, is from these visas.
00:42:22.000And by the way, in a lot of cases the visas can be extended, you know, perpetually.
00:42:28.000And a lot of these temporary visas end up in green cards anyway.
00:42:32.000And if they don't, they just stay illegally.
00:42:34.000So the biggest lie about our immigration system is about these temporary workers.
00:42:41.000I mean, obviously our guys talk about it, our immigration hawks talk about it, and liberals like to talk about it when we suggest building a wall, right?
00:42:50.000When the president says, build a wall, they say, well, actually, the biggest source of illegal immigration is visa overstays.
00:42:56.000And then you say, okay, well, shut all of that down too.
00:43:47.000So, what has been rumored is that you've got, like I said in this report, you've got the first executive order, which could be signed tomorrow, I'm not going to hold my breath, but we'll see, which is 60 days and a ban on green cards.
00:43:58.000And apparently it does not affect, it is only for permanent residents, it does not affect non-permanent residents.
00:44:05.000Non-permanent, or rather non-permanent visas for work or tourism or anything like that.
00:44:11.000So that is what the first phase will look like.
00:44:13.000They're saying that there could be a second phase, and I've read other reports that say that the reason they're not going to ban these temporary visas is because that is a lot more complicated.
00:44:24.000That's what I've read in other reports about this subject, that, well, the reason they're shutting down the green cards is because this is much more simple, and going about all the different kinds of visas and everything that has to be done for everybody else
00:44:48.000It says, quote, sources familiar with the situation told The Spectator that the president's son-in-law Jared Kushner, of course, is one of the loudest voices pushing back on a full ban and is seeking to carve out exemptions for refugees, temporary workers under the H-1B visa program, and farm workers under the H-2A visa program.
00:45:08.000So, from my understanding, and this would make sense to me, you've got the immigration hawks
00:45:15.000Which might be Trump and Stephen Miller and maybe some other people in the White House that are saying a full ban on immigration.
00:45:40.000Obviously, immigrants might bring the disease, but also immigrants are taking jobs at a time when unemployment is now in the double digits and skyrocketing by the millions every week.
00:45:51.000Obviously, if you've got now 20 million unemployed as of Friday, how can you justify bringing in foreign workers?
00:45:57.000You've got 20 million Americans without work and you're going to bring in workers.
00:46:02.000So, you know, in one sense the idea of an immigration ban is stopping the disease, but maybe more importantly is you shut down immigration because now you're protecting jobs.
00:46:20.000If you notice, Ted Cruz and Chuck Grassley and Charlie Kirk and all these people, they're all saying, well, this is a great temporary emergency measure.
00:46:48.000Unemployment was 3.5% before all this stuff kicked off.
00:46:51.000But also think about it in terms of wages.
00:46:54.000It's not just that these foreign workers are taking the jobs, although they are.
00:46:57.000In a lot of cases you see people training their replacements.
00:47:00.000Foreign workers coming in, the companies will bring them in, and the Native Americans, which is us, not Indians I'm talking about, but us, the natives, they will train the foreign workers, and then the foreign workers will take their jobs.
00:47:14.000And moreover, even if that doesn't happen, even if magically, well, there's just enough jobs for everybody, well then they're decreasing the wages.
00:47:21.000Because the more that you brought in the labor pool, and if companies know that they can just bring in people from India, they know that they can pay less for work.
00:47:30.000And we talked about that even on the TikTok stream on Sunday.
00:47:33.000So this is a disaster economically all the time.
00:47:37.000It's also a national security problem and a social problem and a cultural problem.
00:47:41.000Only now is it a public health problem.
00:47:43.000And now because of public health and this economic recession,
00:47:48.000This economic catastrophe, now even the mainstream Republicans are saying, yeah, temporarily for emergency, which is wrong, but they're all getting behind it and they're saying temporary, but the only way that this would be meaningful is if this would be full and complete and total.
00:48:04.000We know that all the usual suspects do not want this to happen because they know that then the situation and the dynamic would flip.
00:48:13.000Right now, it's on the President to change immigration policy.
00:48:18.000In other words, the status quo, the advantage of the status quo, is firmly in favor of the open borders people.
00:49:40.000In other words, history and politics generally favors what already is.
00:49:45.000Not reform, not change, but what is the way it is.
00:49:48.000And the longer things stay the way they are,
00:49:50.000The better you can bet that they're gonna stay the same in the future.
00:49:53.000And I don't know if that, maybe that sounds like convoluted, but I think you know what I'm saying.
00:49:57.000That the government, the more government does something, the less likely it is it's gonna stop doing that.
00:50:02.000Milton Friedman, who I used to read a lot when I was a libertarian, he's famous for saying, you know, or maybe, no, I think this was Ronald Reagan?
00:50:10.000I don't know if this is Ronald Reagan or Friedman, but somebody said there's no such... What is it?
00:50:15.000There's nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.
00:50:18.000And they're talking about welfare, and they're talking about agencies and departments.
00:50:35.000If Trump just keeps his foot on the gas, all he has to do is floor it and keep his foot on the gas 60 days, 90 days, it doesn't matter.
00:50:44.000The momentum will be on our side and the pressure will be on them to reopen.
00:50:47.000This is why they don't want it to happen in the first place.
00:50:50.000Now, they don't want it to happen in the first place because
00:50:53.000You know, Jared Kushner represents the business interests.
00:50:56.000Jared Kushner, who was tasked with creating a new legal immigration policy last year, he held court in the White House with agribusiness, and energy, and awe, and the heritage, and all the big lobbies, and all the big think tanks, and all the big business interests, and he created an immigration proposal that basically benefits businesses, does not decrease the total amount of immigration, the only thing that it changes is it shrinks the amount of family-based migration.
00:51:21.000You're not shrinking the total amount of immigration.
00:51:23.000So that guy, who's a representative of the interests, is now going to try to shut down and thwart Trump from suspending all immigration.
00:51:32.000Not just the permanent, but the impermanent, the temporary, the agriculture workers, the H-2A, the H-1B, the tech workers.
00:53:44.000The worst pandemic we've ever seen, maybe in the history of our country.
00:53:49.000Definitely, at least in the last 100 years.
00:53:52.000And so, we keep extending it and extending it, and even if it gets shut down eventually, then if Trump wins another term, maybe it gets legislated in some way.
00:54:01.000Maybe it's not a total ban forever, but maybe this is the beachhead, so to speak, that we can establish to really start pushing on the immigration issue.
00:54:10.000And not just illegal, but legal immigration.
00:54:13.000And I know some people are skeptical and saying, well, but you know, he did say at the press conference that he's not in favor of cutting legal immigration and blah, blah, blah.
00:54:19.000But I think that there's potential here.
00:54:23.000I don't know how, you know, like I said, I see a scenario where this could happen.
00:54:54.000Because, you know, Tucker Carlson goes off on all these temporary workers, and you know Trump is tuning in, and I guess he follows Tucker for national policy, so it really comes down to how closely was Donald Trump paying attention to Tucker today?
00:55:07.000Did Tucker drive down to Mar-a-Lago and say, Mr. President, Mr. President, you have to shut down all the immigration?
00:55:13.000And Shyam says, alright, okay, alright, if you say so.
00:55:55.000You don't get another opportunity like this.
00:55:57.000So it's like we're either gonna start now moving in the right direction, or it's not gonna happen with this guy.
00:56:02.000You know, if Jared Kushner and all these pro-immigration forces get one over, it just won't.
00:56:06.000Because you will never muster the public support, public pressure, all of that, like you have now, I don't think at any time in the next...
00:56:15.000You know, five years with the remaining years of this presidency, if he wins another term.
00:56:19.000So, I think he shuts down immigration now, he wins another term, he extends it, and this is like everything we dreamed of.
00:56:26.000This is the beachhead for real and serious immigration restriction.
00:56:31.000Finally addressing big business, and foreign workers, and these visa overstays, and temporary visas, and F1, and all these horrible things that are just not talked about or addressed.
00:56:48.000Or we will never get serious about immigration, we will never get serious about any of this stuff, and we might as well just wait until 2024 or beyond.
00:56:56.000Because, I mean, it's just too many missed opportunities at that point, you know?
00:57:01.000And we could really make a difference.
00:57:02.000If this president left office with mandatory E-Verify, with a serious
00:58:39.000So, anyway, that's the executive order, but we're gonna move on and we'll read Super Chats and see what you guys are saying about all this.
01:01:26.000Oh another one of these X memes X gang X nationalism X rise up If I say something we have in common and then just add on to it a useless suffix then it's funny
01:01:56.000I'd like to go and go to Portillo's, but I feel dissuaded from going downtown to some of the, you know, more Kino restaurants or into the city these days.
01:04:34.000Kushner got put in charge of ending the government shutdown weeks before they made a deal.
01:04:39.000And the final deal was $1.3 billion for wall funding, subject to all kinds of restrictions.
01:04:47.000Total amnesty for unaccompanied minors and their sponsors.
01:04:52.000Which is like amnesty for everybody, you know, it's like basically Fred not not amnesty, but it's free reign essentially They're not gonna deport you.
01:04:59.000It's not enforcement essentially and just a whole host of they expand a catch-and-release diminish the amount of beds
01:10:05.000Femloid gets in the movement, and she wants male attention, and then, you know, things don't exactly work out, and then she flips on everybody and fucks everything up.
01:10:13.000Katie McHugh, her, I mean, this happens all the time.
01:10:17.000Question for Nyx is, have you ever seen Jaden eat Easy Cheese?
01:12:14.000Red pilling younglings he visits the he visits tick tock and he sees he sees the what is it the The the tapes or whatever.
01:12:23.000I forget what they call him in Star Wars.
01:12:26.000I Have to know he sees and he sees all the tick tocks of all but they're becoming more based in red pill He sees Vicente saying race and IQ is real.
01:12:36.000I can't believe this Only pain will you find says Ben Shapiro.
01:13:02.000That is probably my favorite movie even though it's not even like it's not even really like a great film but but the the sort of like ASMR the keno
01:13:13.000The line just the delivery of these things there is it's sort of like the fibonacci thing It's like that that perfect the golden ratio.
01:13:22.000It is just perfect in the way that the movie unfolds the sounds the dialogue you know when obi-wan visits padme and and he says I saw him killing younglings And he's very distraught.
01:14:28.000They call me JD says just send money but also follow on tick-tock.
01:14:31.000Yeah, just send the money just follow on tick-tock That's all we want, right?
01:14:37.000Yeet says I pay to see JD beat the piss out of questions for Nick JD he don't miss call him mister because he does not miss He don't miss I Check his tick-tock every day.
01:14:50.000I'm waiting for him to miss never have never seen it happen.
01:16:24.000I am very much a person that I kind of just, if I get a certain impression, I kind of go by a gut reaction.
01:16:32.000If that is overwhelmingly or just positive to me, I tend to say this person's okay with me, you know?
01:16:39.000And I wait for people like that to kind of mess up before I say, oh, you know, whatever.
01:16:44.000And what I see in Lance is somebody who's young, somebody who's clearly talented and clearly interested in making content.
01:16:50.000You know, this is a young kid we're talking about who's making videos, he's amassed a very significant social media following, done a lot of networking, and I can respect this because I am a young man in politics.
01:17:04.000Three years ago, in the same situation.
01:17:06.000Not exactly in the same situation, but, you know, I remember being his age three years ago, and, you know, working my way up, and finding my way in the world, and being invested, and grinding, and having an interest, and having an enthusiasm about it, and caring about the work, and all that.
01:17:25.000And so, maybe it's that component of it that I see him, and maybe I sort of, like, see myself.
01:17:30.000It is that Anakin and Luke Skywalker moment, but fundamentally,
01:17:34.000I see him as just having a good vibe about him, and here's why I say that.
01:17:39.000Because, and I don't want him to change because I've said this, but when all that stuff with Turning Point was going on, a lot of people, when they got the call from Charlie Kirk, I was just cancelled.
01:17:50.000Mean, nasty, blacklisted, on the order of Charlie Kirk, you're not a human being anymore.
01:17:57.000Charlie Kirk called up, and I know that this happened because I know people who saw this happen, both the calls being made and the calls being received, that when that Groyper thing happened at Ohio State, Charlie Kirk got on the phone and called everybody.
01:18:26.000But Lance was always like, well, you know, he still had sort of like a bro energy about him.
01:18:31.000And that to me was like, for a young guy, that was impressive.
01:18:35.000So I see people like that and I say, we have to cultivate relationships with good people, good people who will come around on the issues and they will do the right thing.
01:18:48.000I have my eye on a lot of people, honestly, in the Turning Point movement that I'm keeping an eye on.
01:18:55.000I'm counting on them to make the right decision eventually.
01:18:58.000When certain things work out, when we become a bigger movement and we have more opportunities career-wise, I'm hoping that they're going to make the right call.
01:19:28.000Yeah, you know, I've talked to the guy and, you know, we talk and everything, but he strikes me as somebody that's really just kind of going through the motions.
01:19:37.000I mean, he strikes me as somebody who is maybe a little bit more interested in the notoriety or the status or things like that other than the issues, you know?
01:20:06.000So, to me, I see in that dichotomy somebody who is more clearly in it for the business and the industry and...
01:20:14.000What it can do for me, and I see in Lance somebody who cares about the work, which I resonate with on a certain level, cares not so much about, well I want followers, I want money, I want, you know, status, but I want to do the work.
01:20:27.000And if that comes, well then that shows that the work is good, and people are enjoying the work, right?
01:21:19.000So that is, these are the kinds of people we're trying to attract.
01:21:21.000I think these are the people that are going to come around in the end.
01:21:24.000People that are cynical and in it for the money, you know, I don't want those people.
01:21:27.000I'll hire those people that do work, but those are not our people.
01:21:30.000And I'm sure they'll be coming around once we're going to have a big America First industry and everything.
01:21:35.000You know, all these career people, they'll see an opportunity in us.
01:21:38.000But I see them as mercenaries, and okay, yeah, here whore, do your work, do your little whatever, but the people that I want to surround myself with in this movement and that I'm staking it on are people that are like us, that are good people, they're competent, they give a shit.
01:22:58.000The outsourcing, the offshoring, and the import of the labor.
01:23:01.000Indians are the worst when it comes to these F-1 visas.
01:23:06.000You know, Indians will come to our schools, and they will just never leave on an F-1 visa.
01:23:11.000Indians will come in on the H-1B or these tech jobs, and they will take over a whole company.
01:23:16.000You know, the way the caste system works.
01:23:17.000I don't want to get totally into this, but these Indians will come into companies and completely take them over from the from the inside out.
01:23:24.000Because they will bring in other Indians from their caste, and it's very, it's like very ancient type stuff.
01:24:14.000But when I was like in 4th, 5th, and 6th grade, we would stay inside.
01:24:18.000There was an option to go outside for lunch recess or to stay inside for lunch recess.
01:24:24.000And I would typically stay inside and go on the computer or play chess or things like that.
01:24:33.000Yeah, and so as I got older, the free time that I had, it wasn't like, you know, playing ball.
01:24:38.000It was on the computer, reading, things like that.
01:24:41.000Not like I was, like, a nerd or anything, but I would just play online games, or I'd play board games, or, you know, draw, or whatever, but I was never really... I wouldn't go out and play, like, football.
01:24:52.000I would play, like, two-hand touch football occasionally, but I was never very good at it.
01:24:57.000I never really, you know, got along with the kids that played football, and at recess.
01:25:02.000So I just had and did other things Let's see Dajani says you flipping out would have been a good tick-tock.
01:25:10.000I did record it, but I just looked like a crazy person I accidentally did record me freaking out But I looked like a retard so
01:25:18.000Patrick Casey says, which TikTok dances should I learn?
01:34:18.000Imagine being black pilled Got to be white got to be white pilled in like a cosmic sense The Bruce says Tucker and Kushner battling on Trump's shoulders that Tucker Carlson Shut it all down shut it all down and then Kushner.
01:34:31.000Ah Saturn the third temple rises, right?
01:34:37.000Jared Kushner is speaking in Kabbalah.
01:34:39.000I hear Kushner speaking in tongues or whatever.
01:34:45.000How optimistic are you for Trump in his second term?
01:34:48.000I'm optimistic that he'll win re-election and he'll have more opportunities, but what he'll do with them, I don't know.
01:36:22.000He trusts his family blindly, and that's how he ran his businesses, and maybe that's fine in business, but that's not how you can run a government.
01:36:59.000Chia Obama says Matthew 18 16, but he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me it were Brought not enough diamonds for scripture, but you know yeah, thank you for the very not I've never heard this one before Thank you for that to to so should I intern for my Democratic Congresswoman no
01:37:50.000I was watching that TikTok she made and she is literally the archetypal C-word.
01:37:55.000If you were to go into the dictionary and look up the definition of that word, it would be that picture of her making that C-word face where she's like... Yeah, that straight-up bitch face that needs to just get... I don't even know.
01:39:48.000Let me go on the record as saying she didn't understand the meme.
01:39:51.000The meme is I'm Nick the Knife because my arguments cut through, right?
01:39:55.000It was never a threat of violence, right?
01:39:57.000But you... Well, you're effing with the... But they do this... All these girls are so tough, and they're tough because they know that if you hit them, then they cry, and then they're like... And then everybody, you know, all the simps are gonna go and kill the guy that dared to strike the woman, right?
01:40:10.000Not that... I don't avow hitting people.
01:40:12.000I don't avow hitting anybody for that matter, but... You know, she... Women always do this, particularly these white liberals.
01:40:22.000They're always so uppity, so arrogant, prideful, and like, where do you derive this confidence from?
01:40:28.000You know, could you imagine if she said that to Jake Lloyd?
01:40:31.000Do you know what Jake Lloyd could do to somebody like this?
01:40:34.000Not that he would, the guy wouldn't hurt a fly.
01:40:36.000Well, maybe if they insulted Texas Toast, but could you imagine what somebody like, hypothetically, what somebody like Jake Lloyd could do to her?
01:41:31.000I don't say passion like a good thing, like you're passionate for your work.
01:41:35.000I mean like, like raw emotive, emotion.
01:41:38.000Driving everything and there is no and there is nothing meaningful about this and these people are I Mean, you just have to look at that face.
01:42:25.000You're misogynistic, you're hateful, the simps like me, listen sweetie, um, honey, um, you call me ugly and attack me because I'm a woman, but you're ugly, the scoff, I mean, it had every component.
01:42:38.000In the 1970s, they sent out this plate that contained all this information about humanity.
01:42:45.000It contained, like, songs and a map of the stars and, like, what a human anatomy looks like.
01:42:50.000If we were to send out to aliens what a horrible woman is, this would be the TikTok.
01:42:56.000Future- we need to carve this onto a stone tablet and bury it so that when the future- our future Chinese overlords excavate it a thousand years in the future, they will know what we've- they'll say, why was the fertility rate so low?
01:43:39.000And if you don't believe me, look at our country, look at our civilization.
01:43:43.000You need men to reign these people in, not violently, never, never like that, never with force.
01:43:52.000If a woman ever talked to me like that, if my wife ever talked to me like that, I would grab her by the arm, firm, and I would say, hey, knock it off.
01:44:02.000If any woman who I was in a relationship with ever talked to me like that, I would grab her by the arm like this tight, and I would say, hey, I would say through gritted teeth, knock it off.
01:44:20.000It wouldn't escalate beyond that, but that would just be... Look, I would just communicate... I would just communicate my seriousness in a physical way, okay?
01:44:32.000I would never do anything to hurt a woman.
01:44:34.000I would never dream of it, but... You know, but that is just what you have to do, because if you let women walk all over you like this, I mean, you're losing.
01:47:53.000You know, whereas formerly he was, I thought, on the same page.
01:47:57.000Then he, you know, gets banned from YouTube, joins up with the wig-nats, then he starts hating on America First and Groipers, and I thought we were cool.
01:48:45.000I don't say that in any other way other than, uh, you know, you should really watch how you talk to other Christians and especially Catholics.
01:48:52.000Big Globes says, Soul Patch is the most annoying part of my beard.
01:50:35.000jd here let me help you okay now we can now we're going to rush okay now we're going to push them jd oh i got the loadout drop you know and then he's then he's like this and then he's outside of the suv pop pop pop like brah that's not okay you're not impressing any of us we're trying to get wins we're trying to hit what we shoot okay so
01:51:01.000I could make a joke about that, but it'd be very bad optics.
01:51:04.000I was gonna make a joke about that, but not good optics.
01:51:07.000Canada First is opening to Latin Mass.
01:51:36.000I don't think he would ever do anything that's bad for his career.
01:51:40.000I don't think he would allow himself to believe anything that would be bad for his career, and there's a difference.
01:51:44.000Some people don't fall in line with the ideology, but
01:51:59.000They make their way in the world, they're just trying to make their way in the universe, like Django Fett says, but they don't buy into it.
01:52:10.000They're turning point people that know full well that they're wrong and we're right, but it's a living.
01:52:41.000That's I'm on the team and I'm gonna be a company guy and I'm just playing a game I play the game no matter what that's how I see it Sheet says you really be gifted to us from God.
01:53:26.000Me and Jaden, we often find ourselves in the situation, me, Jaden, Shallot, Gibby, you know, the whole Fortnite, Fortnite, the whole Warzone crew, Beardson, Jake, whatever.
01:53:38.000We'll often find ourselves playing Warzone late at night, and we all get hungry.
01:54:19.000I saw a TikTok that was like this, where there was a guy gaming, and it was just a montage of his wife coming in, his Asian wife coming in and filming these, oh, these amazing meals.
01:54:31.000It was a montage of like, she's walking through the door, she's got a plate of a hamburger, chili, or tacos, or whatever, all kinds of good pasta, good stuff.
01:54:41.000And, you know, each time the guy's gaming, he takes a headset off.
01:56:04.000Anyway, yeah, I'm getting a different kind of Wuhan flu if you catch my... I'm suffering from a little bit of a different kind of Wuhan flu.
01:56:54.000Okay, I Know it's very funny to call him dump and dummy thick assy dummy thick cakey, but it's just not it's just not nice not polite But thank you for the diamond.
01:57:07.000I do not want to see dummy thick cakey throwing it back.
01:57:10.000not funny that's very juvenile okay boomer says another day another dollar yeah yeah i hear you not new telly says hype trick flossy now there's there we go hype trick flossy
01:57:24.000Let's see commando chicken says dump trick Casey throw it back.
01:57:29.000Okay goes versus what is the next zoom call with the zoomers?
02:05:53.000He's still a very good gamer, but you see some of these plays and it's like even he must be saying, okay, was that really a great gamer player?
02:10:04.000What happens is, in the play I'm talking about, he wasn't even camping.
02:10:08.000He just got lucky that he was, he was trying to, you know, there was one of these situations where he's, you know, he's trying to snipe somebody or whatever, and people ran in front of him.
02:12:20.000Big thanks to our Top 3, but thanks to everybody that Super Chatted.
02:12:24.000You know, good show tonight, lots of fun, lots of good chats, and some not-so-good ones, but thanks to everybody that superchats, thanks to everybody that watches the show, we love you, and I will see you tomorrow.
02:12:34.000Until then, have a great rest of your evening.
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