America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Jesus Christ Was Volcel | America First Ep. 158

00:00:03.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:04.000 You're watching America First.

00:00:05.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:07.000 We've got a great show for you tonight.

00:00:09.000 It is a call in show today, even though there's no paywall anymore, even though there's no maker support, as promised.

00:00:18.000 We are here on a casual Friday episode with our call in show.

00:00:22.000 And if you'd like to be a part of it, remember to join up in the Discord, which I posted the link a few times in the YouTube live chat.

00:00:30.000 I'll actually go in and do that a few more times now in case people missed it.

00:00:34.000 I posted it a little bit earlier.

00:00:36.000 But so we're just having a casual, chill episode tonight.

00:00:41.000 We had a pretty busy week yesterday.

00:00:43.000 You might have seen I had a very big debate with Mr. Arthur Shopper on the Red Elephants channel.

00:00:49.000 It ended up in a rage quit, my first ever victory by rage quit.

00:00:53.000 We went at it about Israel, and man, I was just wrecking this guy. 0.89

00:00:57.000 I mean, really went to town on this old man.

00:01:00.000 I guess he's only 38, but he doesn't really look 38.

00:01:03.000 And I just went to town on him, and I guess he had enough, and he tapped out early.

00:01:07.000 Nevertheless, it was very.

00:01:09.000 Very fun.

00:01:09.000 So, just a casual episode here tonight.

00:01:12.000 We're going to get straight to it.

00:01:13.000 I haven't heard from you guys in a while.

00:01:15.000 Last week, we were supposed to have our call in show, but then, of course, I went to American Renaissance.

00:01:21.000 I was out of town.

00:01:22.000 There wasn't a show on Friday.

00:01:23.000 So, we're here finally to do it.

00:01:25.000 I think it's been about three weeks since our last one.

00:01:27.000 So, I'm eager to get to talk to the masses.

00:01:30.000 Let's see what we have going on in the Discord.

00:01:34.000 And let's drag in.

00:01:35.000 I'm going to drag in somebody who I don't even recognize.

00:01:37.000 We have a lot of the regulars.

00:01:39.000 Can you tell my allergies are acting up?

00:01:41.000 I can hear it myself.

00:01:42.000 How.

00:01:43.000 Stuffed up, I am, but let's see.

00:01:45.000 Let's bring in Mr. Constantine.

00:01:49.000 Hello, Constantine.

00:01:51.000 You are live on the show.

00:01:52.000 Can you hear me?

00:01:58.000 I can't hear you, big guy.

00:01:59.000 I think, is that me or is that you?

00:02:02.000 That might be me, but it also might be you as well.

00:02:06.000 Just give me a sec.

00:02:07.000 Okay, how about now?

00:02:09.000 Can you test it now?

00:02:12.000 No, not working.

00:02:14.000 I can't tell if it's me or you.

00:02:17.000 98% sure it's you, but let me just check real quick.

00:02:22.000 Maybe if I do it like.

00:02:24.000 I'm back, I'll.

00:02:25.000 There it is.

00:02:26.000 Never mind.

00:02:26.000 No, never mind.

00:02:27.000 I got you.

00:02:28.000 I can hear you now.

00:02:29.000 Excellent.

00:02:31.000 Okay, great.

00:02:32.000 So, uh.

00:02:33.000 There we go.

00:02:33.000 Okay, we're all set.

00:02:34.000 That didn't take very long.

00:02:35.000 So, uh, so what's going on, big guy?

00:02:37.000 I mean, this is my first time calling in, so I am a bit, like, disoriented in that.

00:02:43.000 But I do have to say, okay, so I'm around the same age as you, and I am just.

00:02:48.000 I'm not envious.

00:02:49.000 I'm amazed at.

00:02:51.000 What you do.

00:02:52.000 I'm just calling in to praise you, basically.

00:02:54.000 Oh, thank you.

00:02:55.000 I like this.

00:02:55.000 I like where this is going.

00:02:58.000 I mean, what you could do, I mean, it would just be amazing.

00:03:05.000 But I mean, frankly, I think you're the best voice in this quote unquote movement, whatever you want to call it.

00:03:11.000 I mean, young, you're out there, you're friendly.

00:03:18.000 I mean, like, you're friendly, but you also have that personality where it's like, Yo, he'll get you, but it's in a good way.

00:03:24.000 And you also look about 10, 15 years older, but I mean that in a good way.

00:03:30.000 Well, thank you, big guy.

00:03:31.000 I can't tell you.

00:03:32.000 It seems like you're breaking up a little bit, but I caught most of that.

00:03:35.000 Much appreciated.

00:03:36.000 We're off to a great start here.

00:03:38.000 I thought if we were going to bring in somebody I didn't recognize, I thought it was going to get ugly, but no, thank you very much for the kind words.

00:03:45.000 It means a lot. 0.93

00:03:46.000 I've been taking a lot of shit on Gab this week, so it's been a little brutal for old Nick, but I appreciate it. 0.97

00:03:55.000 He looked like a file, if we're being honest. 0.98

00:03:57.000 But I suppose I will take my leave and you can get on.

00:04:00.000 And, yeah, more words of praise.

00:04:04.000 I mean, because that's really all I have to say.

00:04:06.000 But, yeah, keep on doing what you do.

00:04:09.000 And, yeah.

00:04:10.000 All right.

00:04:11.000 Well, thanks so much.

00:04:12.000 And thanks for calling in.

00:04:13.000 Take it easy.

00:04:15.000 All right.

00:04:16.000 A big fan, much appreciated.

00:04:18.000 A super fan with some very kind things to say.

00:04:22.000 I got to say, the audio, I think that was him breaking up a little bit.

00:04:25.000 Maybe it's this piece.

00:04:26.000 I'm not sure.

00:04:27.000 I got to get the clear one.

00:04:29.000 You know, the clear one that you have on, like, politicians or on the Secret Service, something like that.

00:04:35.000 But,.

00:04:36.000 Let's see who else we could get in here.

00:04:38.000 Let's drag in.

00:04:40.000 Oh, this one ought to be interesting.

00:04:42.000 This is somebody I see on.

00:04:44.000 Hang on.

00:04:45.000 You know, it's a real.

00:04:46.000 Let me show you what I go through here.

00:04:48.000 Actually, do I want to show you all the different servers I'm in?

00:04:52.000 That might get me in trouble.

00:04:53.000 Let me do this.

00:04:55.000 Let me do a little display caption.

00:04:56.000 I'll show you my issue here.

00:04:59.000 Maybe you can tell me how to fix it.

00:05:01.000 Or maybe not, but it's just very bothersome.

00:05:03.000 So I'm in the Discord right now, okay?

00:05:05.000 And I'm trying to drag in people down here.

00:05:09.000 But, you know, once you start dragging them, you can't drag them all the way back up here.

00:05:13.000 So it's like I'd like to drag in, you know, like this guy, for example, or whatever, but can't click them, got to bring them all the way up here.

00:05:20.000 So, real challenging stuff.

00:05:23.000 But I'm going to, I'll try and just figure it out here.

00:05:26.000 Let me get rid of this.

00:05:28.000 Okay, so let's see.

00:05:29.000 You know, maybe I should just have the, should I bring the Discord on the screen?

00:05:33.000 Maybe that, I've never tried that before, but maybe that'd be a good idea.

00:05:37.000 Maybe I'll do that for the next one.

00:05:38.000 I have a little trouble on the Streamlabs doing window captures.

00:05:41.000 So, Let's just bring in our next person here.

00:05:44.000 And we've got.

00:05:47.000 One sec.

00:05:49.000 Okay, yeah.

00:05:50.000 We're getting a really hard time.

00:05:52.000 Maybe if I do that.

00:05:53.000 Okay, there we go.

00:05:56.000 So we've got our friend, Mr. Nikki Boo32.

00:06:00.000 Welcome to the show.

00:06:01.000 What's going on?

00:06:03.000 Oh, hey, big guy.

00:06:06.000 What are you doing?

00:06:08.000 Oh, you know, doing the show.

00:06:09.000 What are you doing?

00:06:12.000 I'm sitting down.

00:06:14.000 I'm. 0.99

00:06:15.000 I figured you were talking about me when you said, oh, I have to go through a lot of shit on Twitter. 0.99

00:06:19.000 Is he going to bring on me? 0.99

00:06:19.000 And I was like, oh, okay. 0.99

00:06:21.000 No, no, I was talking about the Gabbians, talking about the cesspool known as Gab.

00:06:27.000 Look, I like Gab and I like Torba, but you got some real winners on there. 0.97

00:06:32.000 Yeah, I haven't been on Gab that much.

00:06:34.000 The only time I go on Gab is when I've been banned from Twitter for arguing with trainings.

00:06:40.000 Very good, very good.

00:06:43.000 So, what's up?

00:06:43.000 Do you have a question or are you just, what's the deal?

00:06:52.000 I was just kind of wanting to come on and say hi.

00:06:52.000 Not really.

00:06:55.000 I just wanted to talk some shit on the stream. 0.99

00:06:57.000 Oh, great. 0.99

00:06:59.000 Great.

00:07:01.000 It's been a slam dunk with the call in so far.

00:07:04.000 Really, really hard hitting content.

00:07:07.000 We got some compliments.

00:07:09.000 Somebody just wanted to stop in and say hi.

00:07:11.000 Well, hi.

00:07:13.000 Well, I wanted to ask you well, I guess since I'm here, have you been keeping up with all the Bloodsports things?

00:07:20.000 The pedo hacker that's been going on recently.

00:07:23.000 No, no, what's that all about? 0.80

00:07:26.000 There was this guy named Zoom who was on the Backyard Bloodsports stream, and apparently it came out that he was a pedophile hacker who docks people. 0.79

00:07:38.000 And it was like a fucking five hour kill stream session, and people were putting him on quote unquote trial. 0.89

00:07:46.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:07:47.000 I don't know how you can make yourself look innocent with the videos that were provided.

00:07:51.000 Hmm.

00:07:51.000 It was pretty interesting to say the least.

00:07:53.000 Wait, who was that again?

00:07:54.000 You cut out a little bit when you said the name. 0.98

00:07:57.000 Who is the pedo hacker? 0.87

00:07:59.000 His name is Zoom. 0.65

00:08:02.000 Zoom.

00:08:02.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:04.000 There was talk about that.

00:08:05.000 Wasn't he the one that planted the Baked Alaska Docs, Dandy Worski story?

00:08:11.000 Yeah, apparently that's what happened.

00:08:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:08:15.000 A lot of shit has been tied back to him recently, which is pretty interesting. 0.99

00:08:19.000 I got called a pedo earlier by somebody named Queen of Bants on Twitter. 0.99

00:08:26.000 So I was.

00:08:27.000 And apparently she's like a defender of Joachim and him.

00:08:30.000 Mm hmm.

00:08:32.000 Very interesting.

00:08:33.000 No, I didn't catch that, though.

00:08:35.000 I didn't catch the kill stream last night.

00:08:38.000 Oh, it wasn't last night.

00:08:39.000 It was a few weeks ago.

00:08:41.000 Oh, this was weeks ago.

00:08:42.000 Oh, it's so fresh.

00:08:43.000 So it's fresh, fresh content.

00:08:46.000 Well, I mean, the trouble now is you got Andy and JF both streaming right now.

00:08:52.000 So it's really not an ideal situation.

00:08:54.000 I thought Andy and JF coming apart, not going to lie, I thought that would be kind of a good thing for me because I thought, you know, they're not going to be streaming and that means Nick.

00:09:04.000 Is the undisputed king of late night, but now they've just multiplied.

00:09:08.000 Now it's just two of them, and so it's even more difficult. 0.93

00:09:14.000 You've got the thoughts, fucking thought stream on one side, and I don't know what's Andy doing right now. 0.96

00:09:20.000 I haven't been keeping up with old, what is it, cocaine head? 0.98

00:09:25.000 Yeah, he's doing the degeneracy stream right now.

00:09:27.000 Literally called the degeneracy stream.

00:09:31.000 Oh, really? 0.55

00:09:32.000 How's your search been for Catboys Who Will Bully You?

00:09:35.000 Is that.

00:09:37.000 I don't know what you're referring to.

00:09:39.000 I believe you're referring to a fake image.

00:09:42.000 Either that or I was hacked, but I have no idea what you're talking about, really.

00:09:47.000 All right.

00:09:49.000 Yeah, I mean.

00:09:49.000 Yeah.

00:09:50.000 Yeah, I saw a lot of people have been giving me crap about that on Gab, but sorry to say, I was hacked.

00:09:56.000 I was hacked. 0.72

00:09:57.000 Every time.

00:09:58.000 That's the thing.

00:09:59.000 I'm the number one victim of hacking.

00:10:03.000 It's worse than anybody else. 0.81

00:10:05.000 You talk about election hacking, you talk about the Russians or the Turks.

00:10:09.000 I'm the number one victim of hacking. 0.85

00:10:11.000 Not only do they hack my Twitter and they post lewd things about Catboys, but also every time there's a picture of me, people edit it to make it look like I'm much shorter and smaller than I am.

00:10:23.000 I'm actually 6'9.

00:10:26.000 I saw a picture of you going up, like you were at a convention and Ben Shapiro was there.

00:10:32.000 Yes. 0.99

00:10:33.000 You were like hovering over him like you were a hawk watching a rabbit or some shit. 1.00

00:10:38.000 I thought that was funny as fuck. 1.00

00:10:40.000 Yeah, classic. 0.99

00:10:41.000 Hey, watch the language.

00:10:42.000 This is a family Christian show, all right?

00:10:44.000 Easy.

00:10:45.000 Getting very comfortable with the graphic language.

00:10:49.000 Yeah, well, I did see Ben Shapiro at CPAC, and it was funny because I think I was standing next to somebody from.

00:10:57.000 I was standing next to.

00:10:58.000 Well, I don't know if I should say because he doesn't want to be associated with the account, but I was standing next to one of my shitposting friends on Twitter, and he called out as Ben Shapiro was leaving to get prepared for his speech.

00:11:11.000 He said.

00:11:12.000 Debate Nick Fuentes!

00:11:13.000 And Fetchaburo turned and kind of smirked and kept walking.

00:11:17.000 He can't hide forever, so.

00:11:20.000 One of these days you're going to find him in an alley, I guess.

00:11:23.000 Yeah, and then I'll do a live stream with him.

00:11:23.000 That's right.

00:11:29.000 All right.

00:11:29.000 Well, is that all you got?

00:11:31.000 Have we said hello now?

00:11:33.000 Yeah, yeah, we said hello.

00:11:34.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:35.000 Great, great.

00:11:36.000 All right.

00:11:37.000 Well, thanks for calling in.

00:11:38.000 Take it easy, big guy.

00:11:39.000 Good to have you.

00:11:41.000 You too.

00:11:42.000 Have a bad one.

00:11:44.000 Thanks.

00:11:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:45.000 Bye bye.

00:11:47.000 Yeah, I love when they do the lines.

00:11:49.000 I love when they do the lines that I say.

00:11:51.000 That's always great.

00:11:53.000 We'll bring on.

00:11:53.000 Let's see.

00:11:56.000 I want to bring in some people we haven't heard from before.

00:11:58.000 I want a challenge.

00:12:00.000 Let's see, we've got somebody named Magen or Magin or something.

00:12:06.000 Oh, hello there, Nicholas.

00:12:07.000 Hello, what accent is that?

00:12:11.000 I'm Swedish, actually.

00:12:13.000 Oh, very good, very good.

00:12:14.000 Well, what's going on?

00:12:17.000 Not much, actually.

00:12:18.000 Just sitting here watching a stream.

00:12:22.000 Oh, very good, very good.

00:12:24.000 What's on your mind?

00:12:25.000 You got any questions or is this another hello?

00:12:29.000 Well, you know, I actually hadn't had a question in mind, but, you know, I am actually a bit interested in your religious.

00:12:39.000 I hear that you're a Catholic, that's right.

00:12:41.000 That's correct, yes.

00:12:44.000 How do you, how do I say this, rationalize your Catholicism?

00:12:51.000 How do you.

00:12:52.000 Catholicism.

00:12:53.000 Yeah, exactly, thank you.

00:12:56.000 Because from the point that, you know, I'm an atheist, and from the point that I see this, is that you were born in a culture and in a family, a society that is Christian in a sense, and you also became Christian not because of your rationalization and not because of the logic, but because you were born in a society that encourages that kind of thought.

00:13:25.000 And if you were born in another time, in another geographic place, you would have their religion.

00:13:34.000 So, you know, my question is kind of how do you rationalize it?

00:13:39.000 Yeah, well, this is an interesting one.

00:13:41.000 This is an atheist, which, you know, that's all right.

00:13:45.000 We'll have him on the show. 1.00

00:13:46.000 But I rationalize it. 0.95

00:13:48.000 I think Fulton Sheen had a very good explanation of why Christianity is exceptional.

00:13:53.000 I mean, that's one of the questions that I had growing up.

00:13:56.000 When I was growing up and I was thinking about religion and about reason and faith, I think that's a very good point, or it's one that I made when I was younger, which was.

00:14:05.000 Like you said, for many people, religion is almost arbitrary.

00:14:09.000 It's about as arbitrary as your place of birth. 0.95

00:14:11.000 If you're born, like you said, if you're born in India, you're a Hindu. 0.51

00:14:14.000 If you're born in, or you're likely a Hindu.

00:14:16.000 If you're born in Pakistan, it's likely you're Muslim. 0.79

00:14:19.000 If you're born, you know, in China, it's likely you're communist, whatever. 0.74

00:14:24.000 But Fulton Sheen made a very good point that where Christianity excels is that Christianity, or rather Christ, unlike any other prophet, unlike any other religious figure, was foretold.

00:14:36.000 Before he came, there was prophecy.

00:14:39.000 There were about 463, I think, prophecies in the Old Testament which Jesus Christ fulfilled in his coming.

00:14:48.000 And the odds are, if you were to multiply that all together, it's some crazy number that all those prophecies could come true.

00:14:56.000 And so I think that's a good starting place for why Christ is exceptional.

00:15:00.000 But then you get into points that Aquinas raises about God, you get into the historicity of Jesus Christ's resurrection.

00:15:08.000 I think it's almost irrefutable that.

00:15:10.000 He lived, he died, he rose.

00:15:12.000 And so I think that's where you come at it.

00:15:14.000 I come at it, and many people come at it from the biblical prophecies.

00:15:19.000 That's what makes Christ exceptional.

00:15:22.000 But then I think once you get into Aquinas, once you start to understand the historical case, then I think that's what makes it a little bit different.

00:15:30.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

00:15:31.000 And I just want to say this to all the people spamming in Discord. 1.00

00:15:34.000 You know, it's a Swedish cock. 0.72

00:15:36.000 You know, this is some sort of leftist, atheist point of view. 0.96

00:15:39.000 You know, I'm not saying that atheism is necessarily the best.

00:15:44.000 Groundwork to build a civilization or society or nation.

00:15:48.000 It's just the realization that I've come to.

00:15:52.000 I'm not saying it's something that brings me happiness, joy, or meaning in life, because I don't think it does.

00:15:59.000 I think it's sort of a tragic atheism that I have.

00:16:03.000 And, you know, I watch Richard Spencer and I've seen how he thinks on this topic, and I agree a lot of what he's saying is, you know, it's a tragic thing that I don't necessarily wish this upon other people.

00:16:21.000 And I accept that Christianity has had a There's a history with Europe and European civilization.

00:16:30.000 But, you know, I still struggle personally with the truth aspect.

00:16:34.000 I just cannot come over this.

00:16:37.000 And, you know, you say obviously that Christianity is unique, it's special.

00:16:42.000 But, you know, it's obviously coming from your point of view, which is biased.

00:16:45.000 You know, inherently, you can probably even give me this because you are a Christian.

00:16:50.000 And if I would talk to a Hindu or if I would talk to a person that worships, you know, the Greek gods of the past, they would say that their religion is.

00:16:58.000 Special.

00:16:59.000 Their religion is unique in their way, and that is why it is true.

00:17:02.000 Do you see where I'm coming from?

00:17:05.000 Yeah, I understand that.

00:17:06.000 But again, I think you could look at the record independently of a Christian upbringing or a Christian background and see that those prophecies and the probability that they came true, it truly is exceptional.

00:17:18.000 I mean, that's unlike Muhammad, unlike any of the major, unlike the Buddha, unlike any of them, Christ was foretold years, hundreds of years before.

00:17:30.000 He came in such a remarkable way, it would have been impossible if you were to explain it with secular means.

00:17:36.000 I mean, the statistical probability that those 460 some prophecies could all be fulfilled by Jesus Christ, it's at least a statistical anomaly, at least that.

00:17:49.000 And so I think if you're looking at it from any perspective, whether it's a Muslim perspective, a Buddhist perspective, it's a real problem to explain that away without using religion.

00:17:57.000 And then you get into the point about Jesus Christ and how he was able to create this religion.

00:18:02.000 You could read.

00:18:03.000 A very good book by Lee Strobel called The Case for Christ, where he lays out the historical case.

00:18:09.000 And there's a stronger historical case for Christ's existence than there is for Alexander the Great in terms of primary sources, in terms of other history.

00:18:18.000 So I think if you look at the historical case, if you look at the prophecies, if you look at the scholastic case that is made by Thomas Aquinas, I think you put all these things together, and even from a secular, even from an atheist, even from another religion's point of view, you would at the very least have to understand it.

00:18:36.000 And look, it was Christ's religion which broke the pagans. 0.98

00:18:39.000 You know, people like to bring up the pagans, and there was a lot of pagan posting on Twitter today because of Volkish folklorist, this dummy, this dumb pagan thought who was posting this nonsense. 0.95

00:18:52.000 But even in that case, you know, you saw Christianity was able to subvert and destroy those religions as well. 0.95

00:18:59.000 And it's because Christianity is fundamentally the truth. 0.60

00:19:03.000 Have you looked into, just out of curiosity, have you really studied on Christianity?

00:19:07.000 Have you read the Bible?

00:19:08.000 Thomas Aquinas, have you read the Church Fathers and all the rest?

00:19:08.000 Have you read?

00:19:13.000 No, I actually haven't, but I am actually interested in reading more into the Bible, but also into other religions, such as the Islamic, the Quran.

00:19:25.000 Not because I believe in it or worship it, but I'm interested in religion just in general.

00:19:33.000 Can I ask you a question?

00:19:35.000 Have you always associated with being a Christian from birth?

00:19:39.000 Is this something that you've always held to be true within you?

00:19:43.000 Well, I've always been, I was raised Catholic, but, you know, I did go through a period of questioning, as I think many people did, and I always came back around to the church.

00:19:52.000 I didn't really embrace it until I got into college last year, but I was always Christian.

00:19:57.000 Hmm.

00:19:58.000 Okay.

00:20:01.000 Can you give me one sec?

00:20:01.000 Hang on.

00:20:03.000 I'm going to swap this out.

00:20:04.000 I'm having real trouble.

00:20:05.000 I keep getting these technical errors, so let me swap it out for my other headset.

00:20:09.000 So just give me one sec.

00:20:11.000 Yeah, yeah, no worries.

00:20:12.000 Okay.

00:20:13.000 This little headpiece is giving me a lot of trouble today.

00:20:16.000 I don't know if it's interference or what, but let me just swap it out for the cans.

00:20:21.000 Let me swap it out for my Fortnite headset.

00:20:25.000 Looking really cool.

00:20:26.000 This microphone's a problem because I don't use it for the show, so I've got to throw it up there, which I think is a fine look.

00:20:33.000 So let me just pull this out.

00:20:36.000 Bing, bing, bong.

00:20:38.000 And let me do that.

00:20:40.000 And one more thing, and then we'll be ready to go.

00:20:47.000 Bam.

00:20:48.000 Okay, so we should be all right.

00:20:50.000 Can you give me a test real quick?

00:20:52.000 Hello, look, you hear me all right?

00:20:54.000 Yes, perfect, perfect.

00:20:56.000 Okay.

00:20:57.000 All right, so what was your response then?

00:21:03.000 I don't really have a response.

00:21:04.000 It was just interesting to hear you talk.

00:21:08.000 I actually didn't really prepare to come here live for you.

00:21:13.000 I just saw the Discord link in the chat and I just.

00:21:16.000 Clicked it and was here for like three minutes. 0.91

00:21:19.000 I watched your stream and noticed, oh shit, he pulled me in.

00:21:24.000 So I just wanted to talk to you a bit. 0.71

00:21:28.000 It was interesting to hear a perspective on religion, even though we don't necessarily share the same religious conviction.

00:21:39.000 I still think there needs to be room for discussion and disagreements on certain aspects and still.

00:21:49.000 Move forward as a movement.

00:21:51.000 Yes, I agree.

00:21:52.000 I agree.

00:21:53.000 And I appreciate that kind of dialogue.

00:21:57.000 I think it tends to be an ugly one because religion is obviously very important.

00:22:01.000 But I understand where you're coming from as an atheist.

00:22:04.000 I talk to a lot of people who say the same thing about how they wish they could believe.

00:22:09.000 They really.

00:22:10.000 And like you say, there is kind of a differentiation between the new atheists, which are almost celebratory about their atheism.

00:22:18.000 They're smug about it, they're rude about it, they're.

00:22:20.000 You know, pompous about it.

00:22:22.000 And there is, I think, the more traditionalist type of mentality where they say, we wish we had that belief.

00:22:28.000 We wish we had the gift of faith.

00:22:30.000 And I would say, you know, the Bible, the early church fathers, Aquinas, and I would recommend that to you.

00:22:38.000 If you want that belief, all you have to do is pray for it.

00:22:41.000 All you have to do is, I think, seek it out.

00:22:43.000 Some people get it easier than others.

00:22:45.000 Some people, you know, have been into it for a longer time.

00:22:48.000 And it may sound hokey, but, you know, look, if people are really interested in that, that's the way you got to go about it.

00:22:54.000 So.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, I've always said, jokingly to my friends and other people that are religious, not that there actually are that many in Sweden, but I always had this kind of envy of religious people to me, they always seem to have this shine brighter than in just their everyday life.

00:23:18.000 They seem happier, they seem more content with their life, even though they might be poorer, they might not be as well off, they just seem more content and happy.

00:23:27.000 With what they're doing.

00:23:29.000 So that's always something that I've envied.

00:23:32.000 Yes, and understandably so.

00:23:34.000 I mean, for somebody who really believes they have what is necessary to function in day to day life, which is a satisfactory explanation for death and for suffering.

00:23:48.000 And, you know, that's a big thing that we've lost out on.

00:23:51.000 I think people thought we got rid of God, and that means, oh, now I just get to do whatever I want.

00:23:56.000 No rules. 0.98

00:23:57.000 I can have sex with whoever I want, whatever I want. 0.96

00:24:00.000 But actually, I think that's also. 0.99

00:24:03.000 Yeah, I think that's what's clear.

00:24:05.000 I mean, there has to be some sort of replacement for religion in society.

00:24:09.000 I mean, we can't just, you know, have this nihilistic view like, oh, now we can have this free sex, you know, drugs.

00:24:19.000 We don't have to have any thought about the future, you know, whatever we want.

00:24:24.000 Like, it doesn't work.

00:24:26.000 It doesn't give you true meaning, it doesn't give you happiness.

00:24:33.000 The pillars that you can lean upon.

00:24:36.000 And that is what religion is.

00:24:37.000 And you can really see it in religious people.

00:24:40.000 Yes, exactly right.

00:24:41.000 Exactly right.

00:24:42.000 Well, we appreciate the call.

00:24:44.000 A great discussion between a believer and a non believer.

00:24:48.000 Indeed.

00:24:50.000 Thanks for supporting the show.

00:24:51.000 Yeah, thank you for having me on, even though it was unexpected.

00:24:56.000 Hopefully, I wasn't just rambling on too much.

00:24:59.000 No, no, it was great.

00:25:00.000 It was great.

00:25:01.000 I think a great conversation.

00:25:02.000 Very fruitful.

00:25:04.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:25:05.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

00:25:06.000 All right, take it easy.

00:25:07.000 Thanks for calling.

00:25:08.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:25:09.000 Bye bye.

00:25:10.000 Very good.

00:25:11.000 Very good.

00:25:12.000 You can see there is a civil discourse.

00:25:14.000 You know, people have it out like I'm this intolerant person.

00:25:18.000 If you disagree with me, I'll block you on Twitter, that kind of thing.

00:25:21.000 But, you know, really, I tend to think of myself as somebody who's open to conversations, open to dialogue if there is respect.

00:25:28.000 And a very, I think he came at it from a place of good faith.

00:25:31.000 You know, even if he doesn't have faith, he came at it from a place of goodwill, maybe.

00:25:37.000 So let's see.

00:25:38.000 We'll bring on, oh, is that Lynch from Twitter?

00:25:41.000 Let's bring on Mr. Lynch.

00:25:44.000 Looks like he's muted and deafened.

00:25:48.000 So maybe we'll get him out and get somebody else on for the time being.

00:25:53.000 Let's see.

00:25:54.000 We'll get on somebody who's named Hale Fuentes.

00:25:58.000 I like the sound of that.

00:25:59.000 Let's bring him on.

00:26:01.000 Hello, Mr. Hale Fuentes.

00:26:03.000 What's going on?

00:26:05.000 Hey, how are you?

00:26:06.000 Long time no see.

00:26:07.000 Oh, it's this guy.

00:26:09.000 Oh, great.

00:26:10.000 Excellent.

00:26:11.000 How have you been?

00:26:11.000 Awesome.

00:26:13.000 I've been well.

00:26:14.000 How have you been?

00:26:16.000 I've been seeing it on Fortnite lately. 0.92

00:26:18.000 How's the KDA looking?

00:26:19.000 Not great.

00:26:20.000 It's not great.

00:26:21.000 Not great.

00:26:21.000 I'm still, you know, against everybody's criticism, I'm still using the controller.

00:26:28.000 You can't be very good when you're on the controller, but I'm not going to learn the keyboard and mouse.

00:26:33.000 You got to, dude. 1.00

00:26:34.000 You want to save the white race? 0.98

00:26:35.000 You got to. 1.00

00:26:36.000 Keyboard and mouse.

00:26:38.000 That's right.

00:26:39.000 If we want to secure the existence, we can't be doing the controller thing.

00:26:44.000 But what's going on with you?

00:26:44.000 Yep.

00:26:46.000 Not much.

00:26:47.000 Just finished up the semester.

00:26:49.000 So, you know, feeling pretty good.

00:26:50.000 Good, good.

00:26:51.000 Are you the one that does the boxing or is that, am I thinking somebody else?

00:26:55.000 No, I'm a computer science major.

00:26:57.000 Okay.

00:26:57.000 I'm thinking of somebody else.

00:26:59.000 Somebody has a similar voice, calls and talks about boxing.

00:27:02.000 But what's on your mind tonight?

00:27:06.000 Nothing too, I'm not going to take up too much of your time like some other callers.

00:27:09.000 But what's your favorite million dollar extreme?

00:27:14.000 Skit.

00:27:15.000 Oh, good question.

00:27:16.000 My favorite MDE skit. 1.00

00:27:18.000 I'd probably have to say, I mean, Moms. 0.58

00:27:21.000 Moms is technically OK Computer, but it's that group.

00:27:25.000 It's got to be the funniest one, hands down.

00:27:27.000 Have you ever seen that one?

00:27:29.000 Yes, I have.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, it's that's I mean, that's one of the ones where you know, don't get me wrong, I like just about everything that they do, but and some of it's really smart and some of it's you know, challenging.

00:27:40.000 But moms is just laugh out loud, funny.

00:27:42.000 It's it's the best.

00:27:44.000 What's your favorite?

00:27:45.000 Oh, yeah, the man who would never be what they made him to be, Charles in prison.

00:27:51.000 That's that's a good one.

00:27:52.000 That's see, that's one of the ones that really speaks to the soul, you know.

00:27:57.000 Yeah, it's not too funny, but it's a little sad, actually.

00:28:00.000 Oh, yeah, very sad, very sad.

00:28:02.000 And the John Maus playing at the end.

00:28:05.000 Very good stuff.

00:28:06.000 Very good stuff.

00:28:07.000 And it's funny because they both work.

00:28:09.000 There's a version with Cop Killer, which they cut for Adult Swim, and then they have one with Hey Moon, but they both work very well.

00:28:16.000 So great.

00:28:17.000 I agree.

00:28:18.000 That's a winner.

00:28:18.000 That's probably one of those 10 out of 10s, but you're right.

00:28:21.000 It is a little bit more serious.

00:28:23.000 All right.

00:28:24.000 Well, that's all I had.

00:28:25.000 So have a good night.

00:28:26.000 Have a good weekend.

00:28:28.000 Can't wait to see your American Renaissance video.

00:28:30.000 We'll be seeing you.

00:28:31.000 All right, man.

00:28:32.000 Well, thanks for calling.

00:28:33.000 Take it easy.

00:28:34.000 You too.

00:28:35.000 Bye bye.

00:28:35.000 All right.

00:28:37.000 Well, that was good.

00:28:38.000 See, he comes in there, and sometimes he's a little bit, I don't know, sarcastic, but that was a good question.

00:28:47.000 Let's bring in.

00:28:49.000 Who do we got?

00:28:52.000 Let's see.

00:28:55.000 The list is so long, it's tough because the people at the bottom of the list, I physically can't drag them up to the call-in show.

00:29:04.000 So let's see if we could get on this guy.

00:29:08.000 Hello, Mr. Bigfoot.

00:29:09.000 How's it going, big guy?

00:29:12.000 You there?

00:29:13.000 All right, looks like we're having some difficulty with this caller.

00:29:21.000 Shame, shame on you.

00:29:22.000 You're going to be waiting in the lobby and you're not ready to go?

00:29:25.000 That's tragic.

00:29:25.000 Let's see.

00:29:26.000 We'll bring in Angler, Angler. 1.00

00:29:31.000 Oh. 1.00

00:29:32.000 Hey.

00:29:33.000 Hey.

00:29:34.000 Hey, Nick.

00:29:34.000 How's it going, man?

00:29:35.000 Oh, it's Bob.

00:29:36.000 Hello, Bob.

00:29:37.000 Yeah, it is Bob.

00:29:38.000 I got you.

00:29:39.000 Yeah, you got me.

00:29:40.000 All right, anyway, I do have an actual question.

00:29:42.000 All right, great.

00:29:43.000 What do you think about the whole incel, how it's being taken up by mass media, and how, you know, our dear anime lovers may be confused with the incels?

00:29:58.000 Yeah, no, that's interesting.

00:30:00.000 It's funny how much the media has botched the incel kind of thing.

00:30:05.000 You know, it was really sad because I always thought the incel meme, the incel culture was very insular.

00:30:13.000 You know, it's very esoteric.

00:30:14.000 And now that it's on the media and they're butchering it, they don't understand it.

00:30:18.000 It's kind of rough.

00:30:19.000 But you're right, there is a confusion between the anime nibbas and the incels, but they are distinct.

00:30:25.000 They are distinct in separate categories.

00:30:27.000 For example, anime people are not celibate at all.

00:30:31.000 You know, it's a pretty big spectrum.

00:30:33.000 Some of them are incel, some of them are volcel, but a lot of them are not celibate at all.

00:30:38.000 So I think that's maybe what.

00:30:40.000 I think there's like.

00:30:41.000 It's a Venn diagram, basically.

00:30:42.000 There's overlap where it's like.

00:30:45.000 Well, I don't know.

00:30:46.000 I think there's incel people that are into anime, and there's anime people that are incel, but they are different because there are incels that are not into anime, and there's anime people that are not even celibate.

00:30:56.000 So I guess that's a difference.

00:30:58.000 I feel as the culture of anime breeds that kind of attitude. 1.00

00:31:04.000 Because I remember as soon as I felt disenfranchised with anime, it's when I really felt like I wanted to start not being a fag. 1.00

00:31:16.000 Oh, sorry. 1.00

00:31:17.000 I don't know if that's accepted on your show.

00:31:19.000 No, that's language.

00:31:20.000 Yeah.

00:31:20.000 That's acceptable.

00:31:21.000 It's not scatological.

00:31:21.000 All right.

00:31:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:24.000 Got it.

00:31:25.000 I just feel like there needs to be a serious awakening of.

00:31:31.000 There needs to be a mass red pill in which people realize that the anime pill and the incel pill are near one in the same.

00:31:40.000 Oh, so you think they're together?

00:31:43.000 Yes.

00:31:44.000 You look at the average anime watcher, you look at someone who signs up for a Crunchyroll subscription, all right?

00:31:51.000 They're not bringing their best, all right?

00:31:53.000 They're not bringing their best at all.

00:31:54.000 Well, but see, what do you say for somebody like me? 0.78

00:31:57.000 Who is a Catholic vole cell, but then also.

00:32:00.000 And you surround your entire life with anime. 0.85

00:32:02.000 Okay, yeah, that's a fair point.

00:32:03.000 I guess, but the trick then is moderation.

00:32:06.000 At the end of the day, as always, it's moderation.

00:32:08.000 Well, everything is okay in moderation, but when I say an anime watcher, I mean someone who.

00:32:15.000 The anime profile pictures, all right?

00:32:17.000 Oh, yeah, I'll.

00:32:19.000 Yeah, I think you're right about that.

00:32:21.000 Well, here's the trick with the anime profile pictures an anime profile picture gives you a very particular idea about a person.

00:32:29.000 And it tends to be just the exact opposite with people IRL.

00:32:34.000 You know, you'll see an anime profile picture, it'll be all cute and all the rest.

00:32:38.000 And then you see the person, you see what they actually look like.

00:32:41.000 And it's like, you know, not exactly an accurate representation.

00:32:46.000 So I hear you on that one.

00:32:47.000 I think I know where you're coming from.

00:32:49.000 I would say I'm against the anime obsession.

00:32:52.000 Anime right is okay.

00:32:54.000 You know, I like those people, but the people that are all anime all day and incel.

00:33:00.000 Probably not going to be the best, not the best lifestyle.

00:33:04.000 Got it.

00:33:05.000 So, Bread Pill's disavowed.

00:33:06.000 Thank you.

00:33:07.000 Bread Pill was disavowed a long time ago for his treachery. 0.99

00:33:13.000 He went over to Team Woman. 0.77

00:33:15.000 Good to hear. 0.98

00:33:15.000 He went over to Team Woman. 0.98

00:33:17.000 I know.

00:33:18.000 And I advised him against that path the entire way along.

00:33:21.000 And then he got, well, no, that's server drama.

00:33:25.000 Let's not bring that on the show.

00:33:26.000 Oh, thank you.

00:33:26.000 Oh, wow.

00:33:27.000 So considerate.

00:33:28.000 Yeah.

00:33:28.000 Yes.

00:33:28.000 Thank you.

00:33:29.000 But, yeah.

00:33:29.000 Yeah.

00:33:31.000 Follow me back on Twitter.

00:33:32.000 I know.

00:33:33.000 I'll leave you to everything else.

00:33:35.000 All right.

00:33:36.000 Thanks for calling.

00:33:36.000 Well, take it easy.

00:33:38.000 You too, Nick.

00:33:39.000 All right.

00:33:39.000 Bye-bye.

00:33:40.000 Good guy, Mr. Bob.

00:33:41.000 Let's bring in, I guess, Lynch has got his stuff sorted out.

00:33:45.000 He's still deafened.

00:33:46.000 If he's going to be deafened, I'm not bringing him in.

00:33:50.000 Let's see.

00:33:53.000 Let's see.

00:33:54.000 Who have we not heard from?

00:33:55.000 Let's bring in this.

00:33:56.000 Can I even?

00:33:56.000 Whoops.

00:33:58.000 Will it even allow me to drag him up?

00:34:00.000 Nope.

00:34:01.000 Not going to work.

00:34:02.000 Oh, you know what I can do?

00:34:04.000 Here's what I'll do.

00:34:06.000 Excuse me.

00:34:08.000 You can just have them moved to.

00:34:11.000 There we go.

00:34:11.000 Okay.

00:34:12.000 So you don't even have to drag.

00:34:13.000 You could just move them by right clicking.

00:34:15.000 I just discovered that.

00:34:17.000 Oh, and they.

00:34:18.000 I picked them, and they jumped right out.

00:34:21.000 So let's see.

00:34:22.000 I'll have to send somebody else in.

00:34:24.000 Let's get an Alphonsus.

00:34:25.000 I'm going to move him there.

00:34:30.000 Hello, Mr. Alphonsus.

00:34:32.000 What's going on?

00:34:35.000 Can't hear you, big guy.

00:34:37.000 Cannot hear you.

00:34:42.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:34:43.000 That's not me.

00:34:45.000 It's not me because I was just working with Bob.

00:34:49.000 You have to figure your stuff out, big guy.

00:34:51.000 You're going to have to figure it out.

00:34:52.000 Sorry.

00:34:53.000 Let's bring in Lynch in the meantime.

00:34:56.000 Hello, Mr. Lynch.

00:34:58.000 Hello, Nick.

00:34:59.000 So sorry about that boomer tick.

00:35:01.000 That was pretty rough.

00:35:02.000 That was pretty rough, but that's all right.

00:35:04.000 I was so excited to get on the show.

00:35:06.000 You got no idea.

00:35:07.000 Well,.

00:35:08.000 My question here is an electoral question.

00:35:10.000 I know we're having a laid back stream here, but this goes back to the election of Trump.

00:35:18.000 I mean, I had a discussion with a liberal at work about gerrymandering.

00:35:24.000 And I said, so you value the people in metropolitans with the big population over communities that are smaller, but they might even have bigger resources and bigger land.

00:35:36.000 Do you think that's going to play a part in these midterms here?

00:35:40.000 The county lines and the demographics.

00:35:43.000 How do you think that plays?

00:35:45.000 Yeah, well, you know, this is something I talked a lot about on the 2018 podcast before it got shut down by Maker Support, or rather, Stripe shutting down Maker Support, shutting down the podcast, which is that what people don't know about the 2018 election is that Republicans have a massive, massive structural advantage.

00:36:05.000 So, all this talk about the blue wave and the Democrat enthusiasm gap and all this kind of stuff.

00:36:12.000 And you look at the generic ballot polling from week to week, and you've had Democrats fluctuating for the past couple of weeks.

00:36:18.000 I haven't looked at it lately because I haven't been able to do the podcast, but I think the last time I checked was a little bit above 6%.

00:36:24.000 Democrats were leading, I think, by a little bit more than 6% in the generic ballot polling on average for the RNC, or not for the RNC, for RCP.

00:36:33.000 Now, what people don't know, they could look at that number and say, Democrats are up by 6%.

00:36:38.000 That's a catastrophe.

00:36:40.000 But actually, there have been scholars that have said, That the Republican structural advantage because of redistricting in 2010, because Republicans controlled the Congress and they controlled a lot of the state houses when the census was taken in 2010, we have such a structural advantage left over from that that they would have to have at least 11%, 11% advantage in the generic ballot poll to overtake Republicans and take over the House.

00:37:07.000 I mean, so that's the kind of advantage we have going into it because of gerrymandering.

00:37:12.000 You look at states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, And we have a big advantage in that way.

00:37:17.000 Additionally, you look at the Senate map.

00:37:19.000 The Senate map is 100%, gives the advantage to the Republicans.

00:37:23.000 It's only something like seven states, I think, that you have a Republican incumbent, and then the rest is Democrats.

00:37:30.000 I think it's 24 Democrat seats, and that's including two independents, which caucus with the Democrats.

00:37:36.000 And there was a recent thing that came out with The Hill that said that something like seven Democrat seats are now leaning to the right.

00:37:43.000 And you can look at states like North Dakota.

00:37:46.000 Where Heidi Heidkamp is the incumbent, states like Indiana, where it's Joe Donnelly who's the incumbent.

00:37:52.000 Is that his name?

00:37:53.000 Some Irish name. 1.00

00:37:54.000 Where they're very weak.

00:37:55.000 They're in states Trump won.

00:37:56.000 They're in states with a Republican governor, states with Republican legislatures.

00:38:00.000 They've been trending right for a long time since Obama took over the party, and they'll probably lose their seats.

00:38:06.000 And so the Senate, not only will Republicans keep the Senate, they may actually gain seats.

00:38:11.000 For the House, admittedly, that'll be trickier, but we have a very strong structural advantage.

00:38:16.000 And I think by the time.

00:38:18.000 The election rolls around, I think we'll have moved up a lot higher in terms of polling and in terms of a lot of other things.

00:38:25.000 So I'm very optimistic.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, structural advantage.

00:38:29.000 You're talking about basically where people are placed geographically in the country.

00:38:33.000 I mean, it's very black billing to see the metropolitans where you got these liberals literally stacked on top of each other in these buildings. 0.62

00:38:40.000 I mean, you know, it's kind of black billing to see those populations rising. 0.69

00:38:44.000 But I feel like all we need is a little bit of a baby boom in these big counties that were red. 0.78

00:38:51.000 For Trump, and that there'll be like a structural balance. 0.77

00:38:56.000 I mean, the good thing is that the people that are having babies in the country are the religious conservatives. 0.62

00:38:56.000 Well, yeah. 0.62

00:39:02.000 So it's almost by way of some ghastly form of natural selection because liberals are being neutered and they're not having kids.

00:39:13.000 The next generation will be religious, conservative, right leaning people in these kinds of states.

00:39:20.000 So you're right.

00:39:20.000 I think that'll be a big deal.

00:39:21.000 Yeah, there you go. 1.00

00:39:22.000 That's an important white pill. 0.99

00:39:25.000 Definitely.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, and I wanted to touch a little bit on the conversation I had with this liberal because it really got down to.

00:39:26.000 White pills.

00:39:33.000 Well, okay, so these people don't have, these people in these red counties out here, they don't have as much as a say on what's going on politically than these smaller areas, just because the smaller areas have more people.

00:39:47.000 I think that's a really fundamental question to continue asking these liberals is why do you value these really small places over these huge swaths of land that are red, you know, just because there's more people?

00:40:01.000 Well, yeah, I mean, that was one of the biggest misconceptions about the 2016 election, was suddenly liberals.

00:40:07.000 Failed to understand the point of the Electoral College, which is part of the Federalist system.

00:40:13.000 The whole point of having a federal system is to give states power as opposed to just people.

00:40:19.000 You know, the founding fathers, the framers of the Constitution, they all understood that the country could not be run simply by a majority of people.

00:40:27.000 They understood that the people, just like the government, just like the aristocracy, could become tyrannical.

00:40:35.000 And that's why they had the Senate, which was the chamber of the states.

00:40:38.000 That's why they had the Electoral College.

00:40:40.000 That's why they had state.

00:40:42.000 And federal governments, but the libs want to make us essentially a European technocracy, and that's what we have to push back on some socialist technocracy where it's just the central government in Washington.

00:40:55.000 They want to make it like the directory in revolutionary France or something like that, which that was never the intention of our government. 0.52

00:41:03.000 Yeah, the Electoral College is definitely going to be a white pill for the next presidential election because, like you said, These big swaths of land, they're full of white conservatives having babies. 0.81

00:41:15.000 So, you know, I just wanted to add that in there. 0.87

00:41:17.000 You know, you can have your laid back show now.

00:41:21.000 Well, thanks for the call, man.

00:41:21.000 All right.

00:41:22.000 Appreciate it.

00:41:23.000 No problem, man.

00:41:23.000 All right.

00:41:24.000 Good talking to you.

00:41:24.000 All right.

00:41:25.000 Take it easy.

00:41:26.000 And it looks like we have a note from the producer.

00:41:30.000 It says we need another Discord link.

00:41:34.000 So, I'll shoot that up in the live chat.

00:41:38.000 And, you know, can somebody give me a link in the actually in the Discord?

00:41:42.000 I don't know how to get the link anymore because I clicked out of the thing.

00:41:47.000 Okay, the chat is going very fast in the Discord.

00:41:50.000 Somebody give me a link in here.

00:41:57.000 Somebody really wants in.

00:41:58.000 Bandrew wants in.

00:41:59.000 Let me bring in Bandrew while I'm figuring this out.

00:42:03.000 Hello, Mr. Bandrew.

00:42:04.000 What's going on, big guy?

00:42:06.000 Finally.

00:42:07.000 How's it going, Nick?

00:42:08.000 Finally, he says.

00:42:10.000 There's a lot of people in the chat.

00:42:11.000 Yes, yes.

00:42:12.000 Well, it's a hot show, everybody wants in.

00:42:15.000 No doubt, no doubt.

00:42:17.000 No doubt.

00:42:18.000 I don't have a question as much as a small request.

00:42:21.000 Okay.

00:42:22.000 What's your request?

00:42:23.000 I DM'd you on Discord a video.

00:42:27.000 It's from a Trump speech.

00:42:28.000 If you wouldn't mind just listening to it real quick.

00:42:33.000 Right now on the show?

00:42:36.000 I mean, there's nothing bad in it.

00:42:37.000 Buddy.

00:42:39.000 Oh, I see what it is.

00:42:40.000 Yeah.

00:42:41.000 I'm not putting that on the show.

00:42:44.000 All right.

00:42:45.000 Well, send it to Arthur.

00:42:47.000 Yeah, I will.

00:42:49.000 I'll DM that to him.

00:42:51.000 I actually have a question if that didn't work.

00:42:51.000 All right.

00:42:53.000 Yeah, what's up?

00:42:54.000 All right.

00:42:55.000 So last night he kept bringing up how Israel needs to exist because of the Bible, right?

00:43:04.000 And he kept saying Judeo Christian values.

00:43:09.000 It's just a mess. 0.93

00:43:10.000 So I kept expecting you to bring up what the Talmud says about Jesus, right?

00:43:17.000 I think if he knew that, then he might change his ideas a little bit.

00:43:22.000 What do you think?

00:43:23.000 You know, I think you'd be surprised.

00:43:25.000 I've talked to evangelicals.

00:43:27.000 That I know personally, and they are not swayed by any of this.

00:43:32.000 I mean, you can bring up the Talmud, you can bring up what they're doing to the Palestinians and all the rest, and it's quite literally a religious zealotry in favor of the state of Israel. 0.95

00:43:43.000 They are resistant to reason. 0.67

00:43:45.000 And so, in that particular debate, I don't think that was really useful, only because the Talmud, Israel, contrary to what Schopper said, Israel and Zionism was not a religious project. 0.50

00:43:57.000 Theodore Herzl did not want to put.

00:44:00.000 A Jewish state in Palestine because he believed that, you know, it would bring about the end times.

00:44:05.000 He thought it was just a political project.

00:44:07.000 So that's why I didn't really bring it up too much there.

00:44:09.000 But, you know, I do think it is.

00:44:11.000 What's that?

00:44:12.000 Understandable.

00:44:13.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:44:14.000 But I do think it is worthwhile to talk to people about the Talmud so that they can understand that, I mean, really, the Jewish people are not friends to Jesus Christ, right?

00:44:25.000 I mean, they can, and they have been the biggest beneficiaries of religious tolerance, right? 0.93

00:44:30.000 I mean, this is why you have so many left wing Jews.

00:44:33.000 It's because Jewish people inherently understand that if you ever had a very strong nationalist Christian country, it would be a very scary place for them. 0.67

00:44:44.000 And look, that's not to say that we want them to be scared.

00:44:48.000 That's not to say we want them to feel unsafe, but they have been the number one beneficiary of religious tolerance and coexistence.

00:44:56.000 Because the minute a Christian starts to read into the rabbinical Jewish text or read what they say about our Savior, Suddenly, it changes the dynamic of the relationship.

00:45:05.000 So, Jewish people, they all know, they all have a pretty good idea about Jesus Christ, and they think different things about him. 0.95

00:45:14.000 Christians are very ignorant in terms of what their idea about our relationship with Jewish people is. 0.87

00:45:22.000 And that's not to say we can't coexist with them, but it is to say, understand who benefits from that kind of, you know, this everybody should just forget religion and differences between religion don't matter. 1.00

00:45:34.000 Who benefits from that, you know?

00:45:37.000 All right.

00:45:38.000 Well, thank you for having me on.

00:45:39.000 And please send that video to my radio station.

00:45:42.000 I will.

00:45:43.000 Thanks for calling.

00:45:44.000 All right.

00:45:44.000 Take it easy.

00:45:45.000 Thank you.

00:45:45.000 Good guy.

00:45:46.000 Good guy.

00:45:47.000 And let's see. 1.00

00:45:50.000 We'll bring in the perfect Mean Lord.

00:45:53.000 This is an interesting name.

00:45:56.000 Hello, Mr. Mean Lord.

00:45:57.000 How's it going?

00:45:59.000 Nothing much.

00:46:00.000 How about you?

00:46:01.000 Yes.

00:46:03.000 Nothing much going on here either.

00:46:04.000 What's on your mind?

00:46:05.000 I'm from Germany, you could say.

00:46:08.000 Oh, very good.

00:46:10.000 But I'm actually Armenian since I immigrated like 23 years ago.

00:46:15.000 Interesting, okay.

00:46:18.000 As well as you know, we are pretty Christian in our beliefs since we were the first nation.

00:46:25.000 And I'm more often, how you could say it, I'm not that much into religion, but I was baptized here as an evangelical.

00:46:36.000 And my question would be, oh, I have a couple of questions since I watched the stream.

00:46:42.000 Yesterday, about this guy that was pre-designed, which I don't understand.

00:46:50.000 What do you think about his views that he is so much into his beliefs that they need to protect Israel as a nation state?

00:46:59.000 Why they actually are so immoral in their actions?

00:47:04.000 Yeah, well, it's one of these arguments, and I like the Israel argument because it's so one sided. 0.57

00:47:09.000 I mean, the historical record of the Zionists, you know, there's a very famous quote by Thomas Sowell, the black Chicago school economist.

00:47:18.000 He said that the Record of communism, or rather, the record of failure for communism is so blatant that only an intellectual could evade or ignore it.

00:47:28.000 And that's essentially the same thing with Zionism. 0.64

00:47:30.000 The record of Zionist violence is so blatant, so obvious, so voluminous, it could only take somebody very slippery, very tricky, or some kind of intellectual to evade or deny it. 0.71

00:47:43.000 And somebody like Arthur, you know, it's confirmation bias at the end of the day. 0.75

00:47:49.000 You notice that he really didn't even.

00:47:50.000 Flinch when I brought up the Levon affair or the USS Liberty or anything like that because a real American patriot, that would give them pause.

00:47:58.000 You know, these people we support are barbarians and they kill our own citizens, our veterans, and all that.

00:48:05.000 That should change our dynamic with them. 0.79

00:48:08.000 But you saw that that just fit into his narrative that anybody who questions Israel is an anti Semite, is a hater, and all that.

00:48:15.000 I think the reason for that is because a lot of politicians are bought by them and a lot of.

00:48:24.000 Let's say politicians have dual citizenships, and you could say they are pretty biased in their politics.

00:48:32.000 And these are mostly the neocons that are pushing this pro Israel, let's say, state.

00:48:40.000 And you could say I'm actually rather left wing, if you would call that.

00:48:46.000 So, since I'm not a right winger in the case of my beliefs, but I still am pretty red pilled, I would say, since I can see the facts.

00:48:55.000 And I can see that there are a lot of issues in this world since, like, for immigration, I myself am a Green Biden, don't agree with the immigration politics we have here, or you guys would probably get if the left, you could say the left, will take control over your state much longer because I don't see them as actually left wing.

00:49:18.000 I see them as neoliberal.

00:49:20.000 They are more like centrists in your country and they are pushing this identity politics of the left.

00:49:27.000 They agree with identity politics, but they hate. 0.52

00:49:30.000 White people, on the most part, which I don't see to be quite fair, if you could say, they should have, let's say, taken care of their people at least to the extent to make it a better state, since Republicans were actually more left-leaning in their, let's say, existence or creation. 0.61

00:49:54.000 They were more of the tolerant party, and it shifted so much that I would say the Democrats are. 0.81

00:50:02.000 Not actually left wing anymore.

00:50:04.000 I would say they are right centrist, but in their core beliefs, they are corporatists.

00:50:09.000 They are way, too much into money. 0.99

00:50:14.000 Wall Street has them under their bootstraps and they are corrupt as hell. 0.94

00:50:22.000 And I can't agree with people that take so much money and don't really care about their own people. 0.63

00:50:28.000 And I'm really into this American politics because I have family in America and I always tell them that.

00:50:35.000 Trump was probably the best thing that could happen for them since he is actually someone that wants to do something for the economy.

00:50:45.000 Maybe he is now a bit attacked by the neocons to tell him what to do about Israel.

00:50:51.000 But you can see with his attacks on Syria that he didn't really want to escalate.

00:50:56.000 It was a really coordinated strike to make it look like he wants to appease these neocons.

00:51:03.000 And even the British and a lot of NATO states and the French want to go on with this.

00:51:10.000 And you could say that they are pretty much also bought not only by Israel, but also by Saudi Arabia.

00:51:18.000 I find it so hilariously funny that Germany didn't want to go on with it.

00:51:24.000 They said, we will not participate in the strikes because I think they know and they don't really want to play into it.

00:51:30.000 And I'm not always agreeing with Merkel on certain issues, but on this case, she was right not to interfere because it makes a really, really bad look.

00:51:38.000 I mean, look at the gas attacks. 0.70

00:51:39.000 They said, yeah, Assad gasses its own people. 1.00

00:51:43.000 Who is saying that shit? 1.00

00:51:44.000 It's the white helmets. 1.00

00:51:46.000 Who are the white helmets?

00:51:47.000 They are Al Qaeda affiliated. 0.86

00:51:49.000 Supported by Israel and the U.S., all right, you're getting a little rambly. 0.96

00:51:56.000 I'm sorry because I'm really interested in this stuff. 1.00

00:51:59.000 Yeah, no, I'm with you.

00:52:00.000 I'm with you.

00:52:01.000 Take up the whole time.

00:52:03.000 I just wanted to see your opinion, then I will take my leave.

00:52:07.000 No, it's all right.

00:52:08.000 I get it.

00:52:08.000 I mean, and I think what you just laid out is that it's all connected, really.

00:52:13.000 I mean, you got from the Zionists all the way up into you know, through ideology and into Syria, but I mean, it's true, it's true what you.

00:52:21.000 Say about neoliberalism and neoconservatism and how it's penetrated both the right and the left and across the Atlantic.

00:52:29.000 So I hear you, man.

00:52:30.000 I'm with you.

00:52:32.000 But thanks so much for your time.

00:52:34.000 This is really destroying your country.

00:52:36.000 And I'm pretty afraid of you guys and also of my family that is living there because they will not get better.

00:52:42.000 I hope, I wish you the best and keep up the good content.

00:52:44.000 It's interesting. 0.90

00:52:45.000 I mean, I'm a left winger, but I can see through that bullshit. 0.99

00:52:50.000 And it's good to look at the other aisle and listen to people that are rational. 0.98

00:52:54.000 So have a nice day.

00:52:55.000 Well, thank you.

00:52:56.000 You as well.

00:52:56.000 Take it easy.

00:52:57.000 And thanks for calling.

00:52:58.000 Thanks.

00:52:59.000 All right.

00:52:59.000 Bye-bye.

00:53:00.000 Very good.

00:53:01.000 Very good.

00:53:01.000 A little bit of a run-on, but that's all right.

00:53:04.000 He's a lefty, so usually, typically, you don't have too many lefties.

00:53:09.000 But let's see who else we're going to bring on the show.

00:53:12.000 The call-in lobby is just burgeoning.

00:53:16.000 Excuse me.

00:53:20.000 Let's take a look and see who we have.

00:53:22.000 Let's bring in Sam.

00:53:24.000 Let's bring in Mr. Sam.

00:53:25.000 He's complaining about the other gentlemen.

00:53:27.000 So let's bring on.

00:53:29.000 Our favorite cat boy.

00:53:32.000 Hello, Mr. Sam.

00:53:33.000 How's it going?

00:53:35.000 Hey, what's up?

00:53:35.000 Hey, Nick.

00:53:37.000 So, you know, I was, I got pretty angry today because I think this Mueller investigation is going on way too long.

00:53:48.000 Yes.

00:53:49.000 And I don't get why Trump doesn't just like fire Rod Rosenstein.

00:53:54.000 And because he can't really fire Mueller because then everyone would attack him or something.

00:54:00.000 And it's.

00:54:01.000 Be a big deal.

00:54:02.000 But why doesn't he fire Rod Rosenstein?

00:54:06.000 That's a good question because you're right about Mueller.

00:54:06.000 I don't know.

00:54:10.000 I mean, I think the longer the Russia investigation goes on, the better, only because I think it will only demonstrate more and more that there's no collusion, right?

00:54:21.000 I think that if Mueller drags this on and eventually just wraps it up without any major indictments, without any major trial of Trump, I mean, that'll really sink.

00:54:31.000 The left wing.

00:54:32.000 And you know, the Democrats have basically staked their whole 2018 position on Trump being not just a bad guy, but also being a traitor.

00:54:40.000 And so that would be a real, that'd be a devastating blow for them in the midterms.

00:54:45.000 Why he doesn't go after Rod Rosenstein, I think, is probably for a similar reason.

00:54:49.000 Of course, Rod Rosenstein deserves to go.

00:54:51.000 It was basically outside his jurisdiction to even.

00:54:55.000 You all right there?

00:54:56.000 You got his model room there?

00:54:58.000 No.

00:55:01.000 What is that?

00:55:01.000 What is that in the background?

00:55:03.000 No, he's just.

00:55:04.000 It was nothing.

00:55:06.000 Okay, all right.

00:55:09.000 But yeah, I think it's probably something similar with Rosenstein.

00:55:12.000 But yeah, as I was saying, For him to even appoint a special counsel, I think was outside his jurisdiction.

00:55:18.000 But then to appoint the special counsel, which itself has exceeded the scope of the original investigation, is just outrageous.

00:55:25.000 So I don't know about Rosenstein.

00:55:27.000 I assume it's probably for the same reason.

00:55:30.000 Do you think he's using it as a thing to campaign on, like the Mueller investigation?

00:55:41.000 Oh, if you don't elect Republicans, then the Mueller investigation will impeach me.

00:55:47.000 Well, I think he'll get impeached no matter what if we lose the House, even if the Mueller thing is going on.

00:55:52.000 If it's not, all you have to have to get impeachment, people don't understand this because they don't know civics, but an impeachment is merely just an accusation.

00:56:02.000 You know, all it takes for impeachment is the House of Representatives to say, we think you committed a crime.

00:56:08.000 And then, of course, it goes to the Senate for a trial.

00:56:11.000 Bill Clinton got impeached, he was never removed from office.

00:56:15.000 Andrew Johnson, I think, resigned after he was impeached.

00:56:18.000 But so I don't think it would be devastating.

00:56:21.000 It would be bad.

00:56:22.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:56:23.000 So I don't think that's why.

00:56:24.000 I don't think it's to campaign.

00:56:26.000 I would assume it's just.

00:56:28.000 But then again, he did fire McCabe and he fired Comey.

00:56:31.000 So I think Rod Rosenstein might be next.

00:56:34.000 Okay. 1.00

00:56:35.000 And I think that was my only question, except I did have one more thing about why don't we just castrate all the Mexicans who come into the country? 1.00

00:56:46.000 Hilarious. 1.00

00:56:50.000 Yeah.

00:56:51.000 Okay.

00:56:51.000 All right, take it easy, Sam.

00:56:55.000 A fun guy.

00:56:56.000 Whoops.

00:56:57.000 What did I do there?

00:56:58.000 I think I just moved.

00:56:59.000 Okay, I just flipped my thing around.

00:57:02.000 We always love the house cat boy for the show.

00:57:07.000 And we'll see who else we've got here.

00:57:10.000 Who else wants to jump on the show?

00:57:13.000 Let's bring in Mr. Saxon.

00:57:19.000 We love the Saxon.

00:57:22.000 Hello, Mr. Saxon.

00:57:24.000 What's going on?

00:57:27.000 Hello.

00:57:29.000 So, I'm calling in from my bunker right now. 0.99

00:57:32.000 I'm hiding because the roasties have declared war on incels. 0.99

00:57:36.000 Have you seen it on the timeline, dude?

00:57:38.000 I have.

00:57:39.000 I have. 1.00

00:57:39.000 It's been all these horrible women, these roast beef looking ass women, saying that we need to put incels in death camps, get them fired from their jobs, and no more. 1.00

00:57:50.000 It's time for incels to rise up. 1.00

00:57:53.000 And.

00:57:53.000 I agree.

00:57:54.000 The guy in Canada, he did nothing wrong.

00:57:59.000 Well, you know, you guys know I'm a Volcel.

00:58:01.000 I'm Catholic.

00:58:03.000 So I'm a Volcel. 0.98

00:58:04.000 I would not, you know, if it weren't for that, well, I wouldn't be incel, you know. 0.70

00:58:09.000 But I understand, regardless of the fact that I'm Volcel, the eternal woman has to be, or rather, the eternal thought has to be crushed in this conflict. 0.53

00:58:19.000 And I think this has now moved out into the open.

00:58:22.000 It was something that was quiet for a long time, the incel versus the woman.

00:58:26.000 And now it's really come to a head where.

00:58:28.000 You have to take sides.

00:58:29.000 And we're seeing a lot of men, a lot of traders going over to Team Woman.

00:58:34.000 And let's just say, you know what happens to the traders.

00:58:37.000 You know what happens on that day when things happen.

00:58:41.000 So it'll be rough for them.

00:58:44.000 You know another famous Christian Volcel?

00:58:49.000 Jesus of Nazareth. 0.94

00:58:51.000 That's right.

00:58:52.000 That's right.

00:58:53.000 Volcel, yeah, exactly right.

00:58:57.000 So tell me about Amron, buddy.

00:58:59.000 I heard there were lots of real winners there.

00:59:02.000 No, Amron was good.

00:59:03.000 There were a lot of good people at Amron.

00:59:06.000 It's just that.

00:59:08.000 Well, I don't want to speak too disparagingly, but there was one speaker.

00:59:14.000 I think his name was Simon Roach from South Africa.

00:59:18.000 And he went up and he gave a very fiery speech, very controversial, very polarizing, I think, in the room. 0.85

00:59:25.000 But effectively, the message was that white people are better.

00:59:30.000 Well, no, I'm sorry. 0.57

00:59:31.000 It was that white people were special because white people have done these great things. 0.80

00:59:36.000 White people landed on the moon and they invented the ball playing pen and all this kind of stuff. 0.78

00:59:40.000 And, you know, this is the kind of thing that I talk about on my show. 0.98

00:59:43.000 But, I mean, you could see there were some people in the audience where it's like they're like 500 pounds in their Skechers with some like hat on.

00:59:55.000 And, you know, these people, I'm sure, are really getting a charge out of this guy telling them that they invented the ballpoint pen and landed on the moon.

01:00:01.000 But I'm thinking that's not all of them.

01:00:04.000 You know, it's not quite.

01:00:06.000 So I just thought that was comical.

01:00:08.000 But, but you know, what else do you think, people?

01:00:11.000 What's that? 1.00

01:00:11.000 Homosexuality. 1.00

01:00:13.000 So, you know what else white people invade? 0.99

01:00:16.000 Yeah, there were some homosexuals there, some pagans there. 0.99

01:00:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.71

01:00:21.000 Well, I don't know if I want to get into that, but Patrick, did the Golden One do any sacrificial rituals?

01:00:28.000 Do some pagan sun god stuff?

01:00:31.000 That sounds like it would be pretty cool.

01:00:33.000 No, he went up, and I actually didn't really talk to him that much.

01:00:36.000 I didn't get a chance to introduce myself, but yeah, no, no pagan rituals there.

01:00:43.000 I basically shut all the pagans down on day one, I think, just with the power of my Christian rhetoric.

01:00:48.000 People didn't really expect it.

01:00:50.000 I was the only, like, explicitly Christian speaker there. 1.00

01:00:55.000 But I think I really brought the cross down on the Odin fags and the Nordkucks and all that. 1.00

01:01:02.000 Did the Golden One use the phrase fair maidens in his speech? 1.00

01:01:05.000 He did not.

01:01:06.000 Thankfully, he did not.

01:01:08.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 Thank God.

01:01:09.000 Pretty rough.

01:01:12.000 It's epic, dude. 1.00

01:01:13.000 I heard that a swarthy gentleman came up and asked you if you were Mexican, and you replied, whiter than you, Muhammad. 1.00

01:01:20.000 Is that true? 0.99

01:01:21.000 I don't think that did happen.

01:01:21.000 Did that?

01:01:23.000 No.

01:01:24.000 Wait, wait.

01:01:25.000 Did that happen?

01:01:25.000 I think it did.

01:01:28.000 I vaguely remember that.

01:01:32.000 But I'm not sure.

01:01:34.000 I do too much content these days.

01:01:37.000 My memory's failing me. 0.99

01:01:38.000 It feels like Amran was like two years ago in America, first time.

01:01:42.000 The time goes by so fast, but.

01:01:45.000 I think, I can't tell.

01:01:46.000 Maybe that was a joke or something because I vaguely remember that.

01:01:51.000 The only thing you need to remember is Catboy Simon serving up some Burger King.

01:01:56.000 Yes, yes.

01:01:57.000 Catboy Simon serving up the Burger King.

01:02:00.000 A good guy, met him IRL, and a very solid guy.

01:02:05.000 Yeah, I heard he does a really cool live show.

01:02:07.000 It's every Saturday at 9 30.

01:02:09.000 There we go.

01:02:10.000 Food time?

01:02:10.000 Let's applaud him.

01:02:11.000 Called The Gulag?

01:02:13.000 Yeah, and he actually did it live from Ameren, if anyone would like to go watch that right after this show ends.

01:02:18.000 The Gulag live from Amarin. 0.99

01:02:20.000 Oh, very good. 1.00

01:02:21.000 Yeah, well, there you go.

01:02:21.000 Well, you got your plug in as well.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, epic.

01:02:27.000 That's all. 1.00

01:02:28.000 Incels rise the fuck up.

01:02:31.000 All right, well, thanks for calling.

01:02:33.000 Take it easy, big guy.

01:02:35.000 Goodbye.

01:02:36.000 Goodbye, Mr. Saxon.

01:02:39.000 We love the Saxon.

01:02:40.000 And let's see, we'll get in.

01:02:42.000 What is it, 8.07?

01:02:43.000 I think we could go maybe a half hour, maybe an hour over.

01:02:46.000 Who knows? 0.76

01:02:47.000 I'd like to see Black Panther tonight. 1.00

01:02:49.000 I think I'm going to do that.

01:02:51.000 Because I never saw that movie.

01:02:55.000 Let's see, I'll bring in.

01:02:57.000 Let me see.

01:02:58.000 A lot of new people that I haven't seen before, which is good.

01:03:02.000 Or maybe not good.

01:03:03.000 Who knows?

01:03:05.000 Let's see.

01:03:09.000 I'll bring in Son of a Baker.

01:03:12.000 Hello, Mr. Son of a Baker.

01:03:15.000 What's going on?

01:03:16.000 Oh, my God.

01:03:17.000 You added me.

01:03:18.000 I wasn't ready for that. 0.99

01:03:18.000 Holy crap. 0.99

01:03:19.000 Let me mute you one sec. 0.98

01:03:19.000 Hold on. 0.98

01:03:22.000 Is this actually Coach Redpill?

01:03:25.000 No, no, it's not.

01:03:25.000 No.

01:03:26.000 Do I sound like Coach Redpill?

01:03:28.000 I couldn't really tell.

01:03:29.000 I kind of forgot what he sounded like, but. 1.00

01:03:33.000 Sounded like a little bitch. 1.00

01:03:35.000 Yeah, and he was stuttering the whole time. 1.00

01:03:37.000 Jeez.

01:03:38.000 That was the greatest thing.

01:03:38.000 Oh, God.

01:03:39.000 That was.

01:03:40.000 I know it was unregulated, so it wasn't really true blood sports, but to me, that was true blood sports.

01:03:46.000 Oh, that was wonderful!

01:03:47.000 It was bloody embarrassing monologue at the end.

01:03:50.000 Oh, my god.

01:03:51.000 Well, you know, with this guy, I mean, he should have just left. 0.93

01:03:55.000 I don't, and you know, usually it's like you like to let people save face a little bit, but this guy was just such a worm.

01:04:03.000 This guy was just so you have to go as hard as you can.

01:04:07.000 He let me get away with so much.

01:04:09.000 I know, and he tried to make his exit like five times, and he kept going, Well, you know, Nick.

01:04:14.000 It's amazing.

01:04:15.000 It's fantastic.

01:04:16.000 Wow.

01:04:17.000 Wow, Nick.

01:04:18.000 You're just like, come on, dude.

01:04:19.000 Just get out of here.

01:04:21.000 Have a bad one.

01:04:22.000 That's right.

01:04:23.000 That's right.

01:04:24.000 It was just so weak.

01:04:26.000 Oh, my God.

01:04:27.000 How do you let somebody beat you up like that and you had nothing?

01:04:30.000 19 year old.

01:04:31.000 19 year old.

01:04:32.000 And no offense to you, it's like a 19 year old.

01:04:34.000 This is a little kid.

01:04:35.000 I said that to him.

01:04:35.000 I know.

01:04:37.000 I said, I'm half your age and you're getting, I'm more than, or rather less than half your age.

01:04:44.000 And you're letting me get away with all this.

01:04:46.000 To be fair, I think CRP has a bit of a reputation for being the punching bag of blood sports.

01:04:51.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:04:52.000 It has a reputation for getting slapped around.

01:04:55.000 But, oh man, I half expected to be pulled in, honestly. 0.83

01:04:59.000 So I guess what I could talk about is that I had a little friendly argument with a lady, with a lady the other day.

01:05:07.000 Is that a Bill Burr reference?

01:05:09.000 Yes, it is.

01:05:10.000 Yeah.

01:05:11.000 And she was, and it was talking about, like, she's complaining about, like, how America is world police, right?

01:05:18.000 And how we spend too much money on military.

01:05:20.000 You know, this is like, Standard blue pill stuff where they're like, we spend $500 billion on military.

01:05:26.000 We could spend stuff on ourselves, right?

01:05:28.000 And I think the current way things are is that we're supposed to spend a lot on the military.

01:05:34.000 We're just not supposed to go to war for Israel unnecessarily.

01:05:38.000 But I guess what I was trying to say here was that, I mean, we can't, like, what do you think?

01:05:44.000 I don't think we can stop being world police.

01:05:46.000 We can't stop having bases everywhere.

01:05:48.000 We can't stop having military presence all over the world.

01:05:52.000 I mean, we've just reached this.

01:05:54.000 Post Cold War level where we're just there everywhere, making sure nobody gets killed.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, I'm not a neocon by any stretch.

01:06:07.000 I'm a non interventionist. 0.92

01:06:09.000 I'm against Israeli wars and all that. 1.00

01:06:11.000 But I agree.

01:06:13.000 I think America is the most powerful country in the world, and we should be.

01:06:18.000 And we should be.

01:06:19.000 And we should exercise our force.

01:06:20.000 We should exert our power everywhere that we can.

01:06:24.000 And that doesn't mean.

01:06:25.000 Six trillion dollar wars for other countries.

01:06:27.000 It just means simply maintaining that presence so that we can project power.

01:06:31.000 And so, yeah, I'm absolutely for it.

01:06:33.000 We spend more than the next seven countries combined, and I'm fine with that.

01:06:36.000 You know, people who have an issue with spending, suddenly when we talk about defense, you have the alt right become the Paul Ryans.

01:06:44.000 You know, they're the most fiscally conservative people.

01:06:47.000 And it's like, if you're worried about spending a lot of money, look at Medicare, look at Social Security.

01:06:54.000 Defense is not the problem with our budgeting, the problem is mandatory spending, which is Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment, all these entitlements.

01:07:05.000 That's the problem.

01:07:06.000 It's the problem that everybody's trying to live at the expense of everybody else.

01:07:09.000 So you can cut entitlements, you could reform them, you could get rid of them, and then you free up the entire budget.

01:07:15.000 So the problem is definitely not defense.

01:07:18.000 It's a good thing that we have a lot of military power.

01:07:20.000 We're a global hegemon, we're a hyperpower, and it should remain that way.

01:07:25.000 Eventually, we will have to relent.

01:07:29.000 Eventually, we'll have to allow for a multipolar order to rise up.

01:07:34.000 I think that's inevitable.

01:07:35.000 But for the time being, I think it would be silly for us to voluntarily scale back our military.

01:07:41.000 The idea that any nation would voluntarily give up power projection is insane to me.

01:07:48.000 China is expanding all over the world, building ports, building power projects.

01:07:53.000 They're all over everywhere.

01:07:53.000 They're all over Africa.

01:07:55.000 All over Africa, all over the Indian Ocean, all over the Middle East.

01:07:58.000 They've got troops in Sudan, they've got troops in Syria.

01:08:01.000 Russia, would they want the same presence that we have?

01:08:05.000 Of course they would. 0.69

01:08:06.000 They would kill for that.

01:08:08.000 But people don't see the value in it.

01:08:10.000 I'm against the wars, but the presence, you got to have it.

01:08:13.000 You got to have it.

01:08:14.000 Yeah, and that was the answer I eventually gave her.

01:08:16.000 It's like, if we don't do it, who else is going to do it?

01:08:19.000 Do you think China is a more moral global power than we are?

01:08:23.000 You think they're the more ethical ones? 0.90

01:08:26.000 Well, it's not even about ethics to me.

01:08:28.000 It's just about our own interests.

01:08:29.000 I'm so tired of this moral foreign policy.

01:08:33.000 Like, we need a reason to go into war besides naked self interest.

01:08:37.000 Of course, if we want to.

01:08:39.000 Exercise military force where it benefits us in terms of trade, in terms of economy.

01:08:44.000 Let's do it and not apologize for it.

01:08:47.000 That's the rule of the world order.

01:08:49.000 It's ruled by force, it's a Hobbesian world.

01:08:51.000 And so I'm not even in it so much for like policing people.

01:08:55.000 I think people can go nuts as long as we get our goods and everything else and we don't ruin our reputation completely.

01:09:01.000 I think it's fine, you know.

01:09:05.000 And then another thing about that, though, does it ever bother you that, for example, other countries don't really have to spend much on defense compared to us?

01:09:13.000 As that's the one side of that that could be bothersome is that we end up basically subsidizing other countries' defense, right?

01:09:21.000 Yeah, well, that's got to change.

01:09:22.000 I mean, with like NATO, for example, the reason that the Western European countries have been able to field such massive welfare states is because they don't have to pay for defense.

01:09:32.000 They don't have to have a military because America's there.

01:09:36.000 America's got our troops in Germany.

01:09:38.000 We're increasing our involvement in Poland and all over Eastern Europe.

01:09:42.000 And so, yeah, I think that our allies have to start paying their fair share.

01:09:45.000 And, you know, you look.

01:09:47.000 Trump, all it took was a few tweets, a few meetings, and Germany is raising their defense spending.

01:09:52.000 All the NATO countries are raising their defense spending.

01:09:55.000 They've got to pay their fair share.

01:09:57.000 Saudi Arabia has got to pay for whatever's going on in Syria.

01:10:02.000 They've got to pay for our involvement there. 0.67

01:10:04.000 South Korea has got to pay for our involvement in the Korean Peninsula. 0.68

01:10:07.000 Everybody's got to pay. 0.86

01:10:08.000 Oh, yeah, that pisses me off.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, make them pay.

01:10:12.000 That's good.

01:10:13.000 That's all I got for you, Nick.

01:10:14.000 I'm sorry.

01:10:15.000 Oh, no, no, that's good.

01:10:16.000 Thanks for dragging me in.

01:10:17.000 It was a big surprise.

01:10:18.000 Yeah, well, thanks for calling in.

01:10:19.000 Appreciate it.

01:10:21.000 All right, take it easy, man.

01:10:22.000 You too, man.

01:10:23.000 Peace.

01:10:24.000 Good guy.

01:10:25.000 Good felon.

01:10:25.000 A good question.

01:10:27.000 We'll bring in who's next.

01:10:27.000 Let's see.

01:10:31.000 Who's next on the list?

01:10:35.000 Let's bring in one key.

01:10:40.000 Hello, Mr. One Key.

01:10:41.000 What's going on?

01:10:43.000 Hey, Nick.

01:10:43.000 How are you doing, man?

01:10:44.000 Doing well.

01:10:45.000 How are you doing?

01:10:47.000 I'm doing well.

01:10:49.000 My question for you is with Alex Jones challenging Ben Shapiro, tiny Ben Shapiro, will this move more on some conservatives more rightward compared to Ben Shapiro's neocon stance?

01:11:06.000 Yeah, I think the more people oppose Ben Shapiro, the better.

01:11:12.000 Because Ben Shapiro represents that entire last dying breath of National Review and the William F. Buckleys of the world.

01:11:21.000 The more that the Ben Shapiro's can give way to even people like Alex Jones or people like Mike Cernovich, which, you know, a lot of these personalities that have really gained traction since the election, a lot of them are frauds.

01:11:34.000 Well, I don't know if they're frauds, but they're definitely. 0.98

01:11:37.000 They're definitely grifters. 0.85

01:11:38.000 Like Mike Cernovich, is he a totally political guy?

01:11:42.000 He was a manosphere guy.

01:11:42.000 Not really.

01:11:45.000 And he suddenly got really political during the election when it was lucrative, and now he's not really political anymore.

01:11:50.000 So I don't mean to say.

01:11:51.000 More like an opportunist?

01:11:52.000 Yeah, I think that'd be the right word.

01:11:54.000 It's more of an opportunist.

01:11:55.000 That's right, exactly.

01:11:57.000 And so I think it's better no matter what because they've all embraced something that's intuitively nationalist, intuitively populist.

01:12:05.000 And I think that's a better direction than this elitist, snobbish.

01:12:09.000 Classical liberalism that's defined by Ben Shapiro. 0.98

01:12:12.000 So I don't know if this will make waves, but I think every time these kinds of conflicts break out and we define ourselves against the Ben Shapiros, I think that's a good thing. 0.97

01:12:20.000 So it's moving the needle. 1.00

01:12:22.000 Yeah.

01:12:23.000 Well, because I was seeing a few videos being shared around of Ben Shapiro bashing Trump supporters and everything like that.

01:12:29.000 It was getting a lot of traction on Twitter pages of Base Monitor and people similar to that.

01:12:37.000 I saw that as well.

01:12:37.000 Yeah.

01:12:38.000 And You know, people forget that Ben Shapiro was a virulent never-Trumper throughout the election.

01:12:44.000 He said he wouldn't vote for him.

01:12:45.000 I don't think he did vote for him.

01:12:47.000 And just very nasty about it, very nasty about Trump supporters.

01:12:50.000 And it tells you a lot about Ben Shapiro.

01:12:51.000 Ben Shapiro is not particularly good at what he does, he's not particularly smart.

01:12:56.000 And I don't think he really cares about Americans.

01:13:00.000 I think he cares about being right, I think he cares about being intelligent.

01:13:05.000 And that's about it.

01:13:06.000 He cares about money.

01:13:08.000 But you could hear it in the way he talks.

01:13:10.000 About Trump supporters, which were the salt of the earth.

01:13:12.000 These were the real Americans going out there, not Jewish podcast hosts, but real people who do real things.

01:13:18.000 And he hated them, you could tell.

01:13:20.000 So, yeah, I saw the same thing, and I think people are waking up to that.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:26.000 No, I get you, man.

01:13:28.000 Yeah, man, for sure.

01:13:32.000 Also, I have one more question for you Will Bob ever be mod?

01:13:40.000 No, no, Bob will never be mod.

01:13:43.000 Bob is unstable, but all right.

01:13:48.000 No, I get you.

01:13:49.000 Have a good night, brother.

01:13:50.000 Take it easy.

01:13:50.000 You too, man.

01:13:52.000 Nice guy.

01:13:53.000 Nice guy.

01:13:54.000 We love One Key.

01:13:55.000 And let's see.

01:13:56.000 Who else do we have?

01:13:58.000 Who else wants to get in on the show?

01:14:00.000 Still a very long list of people, which is a good thing.

01:14:04.000 Let's see.

01:14:04.000 We'll bring in who is this?

01:14:07.000 Let's bring in the high IQ radical centrist.

01:14:11.000 Hello, Mr. Centrist.

01:14:13.000 What's going on?

01:14:14.000 Hello, Nicholas, my friend. 0.92

01:14:18.000 Oh, we have an Anglo. 0.97

01:14:20.000 Oi. 0.97

01:14:22.000 Hello.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, I can hear you.

01:14:24.000 You can hear me?

01:14:24.000 Yeah.

01:14:25.000 I know you.

01:14:26.000 Wait, are you British or are you Australian?

01:14:28.000 I can't tell.

01:14:30.000 Oh, well, that's up to you to decide.

01:14:32.000 But, uh, yes, uh, Nicholas, I'm very upset.

01:14:36.000 I'm very upset with you.

01:14:38.000 Why is that?

01:14:40.000 Because, uh, will you say the 14 words live?

01:14:44.000 I've said them before.

01:14:46.000 Uh, but will you say them again?

01:14:49.000 No, because I found out who originated them, and then it's bad office.

01:14:55.000 I found out it's bad office.

01:14:56.000 I didn't know.

01:14:57.000 I swear to God, I didn't know.

01:14:59.000 And actually, I had somebody in my house doing, uh, Project, let's say, filming me, and they brought up the 14 words, and then it was invented by, I guess, some very hard right, neo Nazi type guy.

01:15:13.000 And I was like, I had no idea. 0.84

01:15:15.000 But look, the 14 words are that we will secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. 0.84

01:15:21.000 And look, I understand that it was invented by a guy who was not a good guy. 0.93

01:15:27.000 But that said, what is controversial about the words in and of themselves?

01:15:31.000 I've said that on the show before, and I'll say it again.

01:15:34.000 If a black person said, We want to secure the existence of our people and a future for black children. 0.72

01:15:40.000 I think that's like the standard position of black people.

01:15:42.000 Isn't that what Black Lives Matter means?

01:15:45.000 I mean, I just don't understand.

01:15:47.000 Yeah.

01:15:48.000 No, because you see, it's sort of a way of distinguishing people.

01:15:54.000 You know, there's certain people who will say the 14 words, and there are people who won't.

01:15:59.000 And I think it's down to, you know, the way you talk about optics all the time.

01:16:04.000 You know, it's how you're seen by other people.

01:16:06.000 Mm hmm. 0.98

01:16:08.000 And coming out and saying we must secure the existence of our people in a future for white children doesn't really look good on you because it's been painted in such a way that it's not a good way to be seen saying that, even though, as you've said, there's nothing wrong with saying it. 0.99

01:16:33.000 Right. 0.94

01:16:34.000 Yeah, I don't understand.

01:16:35.000 I mean, because I get, like, don't get me wrong.

01:16:38.000 I'm not a neo Nazi.

01:16:40.000 I'm not a national socialist.

01:16:41.000 I'm not even a white nationalist.

01:16:43.000 I'm none of those things.

01:16:44.000 However, yeah, but let me stop you there.

01:16:46.000 Let me stop you there.

01:16:49.000 Saying that, saying the 14 words, there's nothing wrong with that.

01:16:53.000 Exactly.

01:16:55.000 But you feel the need to defend it.

01:17:00.000 You know, you have to defend saying that.

01:17:04.000 I'm sorry, I'm a bit nervous.

01:17:05.000 Well, oh, no, no.

01:17:06.000 I mean, well, I defend the content of it.

01:17:08.000 I mean, People can say, well, it has this connotation.

01:17:12.000 It was originated by this person.

01:17:13.000 It's like, yeah, I understand that.

01:17:15.000 I'm against the person who said those words, but I really just can't fathom being against the content of those words.

01:17:23.000 I mean, caring about the survival of your race, why is that a controversial thing?

01:17:29.000 It's par for the course for everybody else.

01:17:31.000 So that's always how I approach it on the show because it is bad optics.

01:17:34.000 And I approach many topics on the show in a similar way, which is, you know, it's probably not a good idea to say X, Y, or Z, but.

01:17:41.000 Let's think about it for a moment.

01:17:42.000 Let's ask some critical questions.

01:17:43.000 And I don't really, like, I'm not going to go around at a rally screaming the 14 words out or anything like that.

01:17:51.000 But I do understand where people are coming from that it's like there's literally nothing wrong with the content of those words other than the connotation, other than the origins.

01:18:03.000 Yeah.

01:18:04.000 So obviously the slogan goes 1488, doesn't it?

01:18:09.000 Ah, yes.

01:18:11.000 So you've got obviously the 14 words, but what does the 88 mean to you?

01:18:15.000 Well, we all know what the 88 means, and it's no good if you can't have it.

01:18:21.000 No, but do we?

01:18:22.000 Because the original concept, the person who wrote the 14 words also wrote the 88 precept.

01:18:30.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:18:32.000 I believe that the slogan has been co opted, you know, if that's the right word. 0.56

01:18:41.000 But, you know, I feel that the 88 has been changed to Hail Hitler.

01:18:48.000 I disavow, I disavow, just so you know.

01:18:51.000 Yes, me too, me too.

01:18:53.000 Yeah, because we have to, yeah, but yeah, uh, the 88 can be the 88 precepts, you know.

01:18:59.000 But, um, but do you know what I mean?

01:19:02.000 Like, uh, what was the stream the other night?

01:19:04.000 I think, uh, it was uh, Lauren Rose, yes, um, on JF's stream, yeah, where she wouldn't say the 14 words, really, but then, yes, uh, uh, and uh, what's her name, or this is gonna hurt my brain, big cat Kayla.

01:19:26.000 Big Cat Kayla came out and she came out and said the 14 words live on stream.

01:19:32.000 So I don't know what that means.

01:19:34.000 And I'd like to know, I'd like to get your take on it.

01:19:37.000 Well, I mean, look, Lauren Southern, you're way smarter than I am.

01:19:41.000 Well, you know, Lauren Rose is a friend of mine.

01:19:45.000 And I understand why she'd be hesitant to say that.

01:19:48.000 I mean, she's a young girl.

01:19:49.000 I think she's going to school and it's not the best optical thing.

01:19:53.000 I can afford to say it because I think I position myself uniquely as somebody who.

01:19:58.000 Is not an extremist, but can take some of those elements and ask critical questions about them.

01:20:05.000 So, you know, I understand why Lauren Rose might not want to do it, but, you know, I say it always in the context of we're against the origins and the connotations, but looking at the words themselves, if we're to separate ourselves out from the political correctness machine and you can't say this, you can't say that because of this reason, I don't see anything wrong with having concern for the existence of your race.

01:20:29.000 I just simply don't. 0.57

01:20:31.000 And I guess I understand why Lauren Rose wouldn't want to say it, but the 88 is the problem.

01:20:36.000 The 88 is what's holding us back. 0.74

01:20:37.000 I mean, at the expense of pursuing other things, people want to rehabilitate Adolf Hitler. 0.60

01:20:46.000 And it's like, why?

01:20:48.000 I kind of understand the argument that they make.

01:20:52.000 I don't agree with it, but I understand they say, well, we have to correct history and we have to revise history because so much of today is dependent on the mythology of the past and all that.

01:21:02.000 Like, I get that, but.

01:21:04.000 I mean, that kind of thing is just so irrelevant to Americans.

01:21:07.000 I care about Americans today, Americans who are getting killed by opioids, Americans who are having issues with the economy or illegal immigration. 0.99

01:21:16.000 And I imagine if you're trying to be a family man in 2018, you're trying to win elections, you're trying to get political power, the most retarded thing on planet Earth that you can do is go around autistically talking about Hitler and that kind of shit. 0.99

01:21:31.000 And that's what Neilan did. 1.00

01:21:32.000 Go ahead.

01:21:34.000 Yeah, no.

01:21:34.000 Yeah.

01:21:36.000 I understand that.

01:21:38.000 I think what it comes down to is if anybody wanted to make a difference and wanted to make a change, we would remove ourselves from this sort of thing and just make more children. 0.90

01:21:50.000 The JF argument. 0.93

01:21:52.000 Yes, yes.

01:21:53.000 The JF argument is to remove ourselves from the internet and not spur out about white nationalism and just make more children.

01:22:02.000 But that doesn't fit with the 14 side of it.

01:22:07.000 You know, we can do what we want.

01:22:09.000 We can try really hard to create a future for our children, but whether our children take it.

01:22:18.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:22:20.000 That's the trick.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, no, you're right.

01:22:21.000 I mean, it's a combination of people have to walk the walk and they also have to do their activism, you know?

01:22:28.000 What we're facilitating, I think, is something completely normal.

01:22:32.000 People want to make it out like it's a white nationalist plot. 0.81

01:22:36.000 It's this Hitler Nazis rising again.

01:22:40.000 All we want is to have families and to have a government that represents us.

01:22:44.000 I mean, like, that's it.

01:22:46.000 You know, they have it out like Nick is openly talking about subverting the Republican Party.

01:22:51.000 No, we're not.

01:22:52.000 We're saying.

01:22:53.000 Go to church, lift weights, meet a nice woman, settle down, have kids, go to school, and then get involved in local politics.

01:23:02.000 Like, this is not scary.

01:23:05.000 It's not hateful.

01:23:07.000 It's none of that. 1.00

01:23:08.000 But then you have these, like you said, these autistic people on the internet spurging out about white nationalism, all this other stuff, and it's holding us back. 0.99

01:23:17.000 What we want is completely reasonable. 0.99

01:23:19.000 What we want is completely traditional and reasonable and in line with what anybody would think if they weren't brainwashed. 1.00

01:23:26.000 But you have what I think is a lot of federal agents and just plain stupid people who want to pollute that with this trash, with these distractions, these red herrings. 0.99

01:23:35.000 And I just think it's a waste of time. 1.00

01:23:37.000 So I'm sorry, by trash, what do you mean by trash?

01:23:42.000 Just so I can get on the same page.

01:23:43.000 Well, you could go on Gab and you can find a lot of it.

01:23:46.000 I mean, all this stuff about.

01:23:48.000 I think Paul Nealon was a good example.

01:23:50.000 The kind of.

01:23:51.000 Like, here's a perfect example of somebody who had a great opportunity to have his family, have his life, and be a real.

01:23:59.000 Voice for nationalism and Christ and communitarianism and politics.

01:24:04.000 And he threw that away so he could post memes of Jews' heads on pikes in the White House. 1.00

01:24:10.000 Like, that's the kind of trash, the kind of just garbage tier stuff I'm talking about. 0.99

01:24:16.000 Because you contrast, like, what Paul Nealon did to Pat Buchanan. 0.98

01:24:20.000 Pat Buchanan, who, you know, is a strong nationalist, a genius, well read, and he articulates his arguments like a seasoned statesman.

01:24:30.000 And then you got Paul Nealon with this potty mouth. 0.98

01:24:33.000 He goes on gab, F this, F that, disgusting, ugly racial epithets, and just this hatred, this negativity. 0.98

01:24:43.000 And that's the kind of, these are the two faces of where we could go down, what two paths we could go down. 0.94

01:24:51.000 The movement can end up as it's been going for a long time in the trash heap of history with Paul Nealon, or we can find a new ascendancy for paleoconservatism, for nationalism, traditionalism, and.

01:25:05.000 I think any intelligent person would tell you it's the latter.

01:25:09.000 No, I agree with you, but I think where you're going wrong is you're abiding too much by the old conservative.

01:25:20.000 Obviously, I'm English, sorry, English, from the UK, and we've got a different thing over here where our conservatives are so far left, it's unreal.

01:25:35.000 And talking about paleoconservatives.

01:25:38.000 You know, our Labour Party are pretty right wing compared to yours, you know.

01:25:46.000 And you talking about coming back to paleo conservative, you know, the original conservatives, I don't think that it would do much good because I've heard you on streams before talk about how number one creates number two, number two creates number three, and returning back to.

01:26:10.000 The original conservative idea, I don't think it'll do us any good.

01:26:14.000 I've heard you talk all.

01:26:16.000 Well, the first time I heard of.

01:26:19.000 Oh, I heard you on.

01:26:22.000 I'm stuttering so bad.

01:26:24.000 Yeah, I've heard you on your Nick Fuentes on YouTube before you sort of blew up. 0.93

01:26:36.000 And now I sort of hear you dialing yourself back on the Jewish question. 0.90

01:26:43.000 Well, I think I've matured. 0.61

01:26:45.000 My views have definitely matured on Jewish people where.

01:26:50.000 You know, I think you discover a lot of these ideas, and as a young person who hadn't heard much about them, I think you get kind of outraged because you hear that there is this overrepresentation.

01:27:02.000 You hear about all kinds of things, and you take new information.

01:27:07.000 You don't really understand it very well.

01:27:09.000 I don't think you've really internalized it properly.

01:27:12.000 And so it's like what happened with Paul Nealon.

01:27:15.000 I think it's a good example again here, too, where here's somebody who he found out all these things in a matter of a couple of months.

01:27:23.000 And it consumed him.

01:27:24.000 And that became his whole.

01:27:26.000 He was unable to talk about anything but this question, but this topic.

01:27:34.000 And it only went further and further to the right.

01:27:37.000 This purity spiral just consumed him. 0.99

01:27:39.000 And now he's useless.

01:27:41.000 I mean, what kind of change can he effect when he's banned on Twitter and banned from Gab and banned from the Republican Party and he's doxxed all these people or doxxed Ricky Vaughn? 0.79

01:27:52.000 I mean, now you've seen what that kind of uncontrolled.

01:27:57.000 I don't even know what you'd call that. 0.97

01:27:58.000 But when that gets out of control, you become useless.

01:28:02.000 And so, you know, I don't know if I've dialed it back so much as I've had a mature worldview that integrates that into it.

01:28:10.000 Whereas it wasn't there before, I think now it's an integrative worldview.

01:28:15.000 And so I'm not talking about returning to conservatism.

01:28:18.000 I'm talking about embracing what perennially works.

01:28:23.000 And so that could be a new political movement, it could be new optics and new this and new that.

01:28:28.000 There's really nothing new under the sun.

01:28:30.000 All I'm talking about is let's embrace what we know to be perennially true.

01:28:34.000 Not even, and I hesitate even to say conservatism because what I'm proposing is totally non ideological.

01:28:39.000 In fact, it's anti ideological.

01:28:42.000 I'm not saying this system or that system will save us.

01:28:45.000 I'm saying we need to have girls who are girls, boys who are boys.

01:28:49.000 They need to get married and they need to have kids.

01:28:51.000 And the government needs to represent them.

01:28:53.000 And we need to embrace our traditions and our heritage and that.

01:28:56.000 That's not ideological at all.

01:28:58.000 And so I think if we return to those fundamentals, we can rebuild a society.

01:29:02.000 Now, I think the issue is this. 0.89

01:29:04.000 People want to talk about going back to earlier steps in feminism. 1.00

01:29:08.000 You know, they say third way feminism is a problem. 1.00

01:29:11.000 We need to go back to first way feminism. 1.00

01:29:13.000 Feminism is the problem. 1.00

01:29:15.000 But it's a mistake to say that if we turn back the clock, that's a useless exercise because it'll just degenerate. 0.99

01:29:22.000 All societies, all institutions, all systems degenerate over time.

01:29:28.000 This has been known forever.

01:29:29.000 This was written about by Rousseau in The Social Contract.

01:29:32.000 The founders knew this.

01:29:34.000 All societies have a tendency to degenerate over time.

01:29:38.000 And so to say that, well, because we got here from somewhere, that means we should never attempt to rebuild the better society or we should never return to perennial values, I think kind of misunderstands the problem.

01:29:50.000 We'll build it back up, and the natural tendency is it'll degenerate again.

01:29:54.000 This is the nature of all societies.

01:29:56.000 But, you know, we do need that kind of reinvigoration.

01:29:59.000 I think that's the only pragmatic way to do it.

01:30:04.000 Yep.

01:30:04.000 No, I understand where you're coming from.

01:30:07.000 But, um, You know, it's hard.

01:30:14.000 It is hard to work it all out.

01:30:16.000 That you've got to ride a line between because obviously there are certain people who are so far right that believe certain things and they know who, and there's people like you who are riding the line.

01:30:34.000 You know, you're talking about white nationalism but not being full white nationalist, and I get that because being full white nationalist, as you said, like Paul.

01:30:50.000 He didn't give good optics.

01:30:52.000 It's all about optics when you're winning elections.

01:30:55.000 You know, to actually make a change, you need to be in power. 0.88

01:31:00.000 And you can't talk about the Jewish question when you're in power or when you're even trying to attain power to be able to change things. 0.94

01:31:13.000 You can't talk about that. 0.90

01:31:14.000 Otherwise, people just turn off and they're done with it.

01:31:17.000 Because I've.

01:31:20.000 I know somebody in my life who has tried to talk about the Jewish question and explained it.

01:31:27.000 And the second you start talking about it, you hear, oh, it was this, it was that.

01:31:33.000 Yeah, but listen to what I'm saying.

01:31:35.000 You know, what it comes down to, it's not optics play so much, how people perceive you play so much into your power grab.

01:31:50.000 I know it's a horrible way of saying it.

01:31:52.000 But that's ultimately why it is. 0.96

01:31:54.000 I hesitate even to call it the Jewish question.

01:31:57.000 I, you know, because again, you bring in these words like, I don't see myself as a white nationalist.

01:32:04.000 I don't see myself as a participant in the JQ.

01:32:07.000 No, yeah, this is what I mean.

01:32:10.000 I listened to the stream with you and Spencer, and I noticed the difference between you and Spencer.

01:32:16.000 And I like to look at it as a sort of a generation gap.

01:32:22.000 I like to give the meme. 0.92

01:32:23.000 There's like the boomers who are in power now. 0.52

01:32:26.000 Then you've got the millennials, like I mean, I would call Richard Spence for a millennial. 0.71

01:32:31.000 And then we've got the Gen Z, like you, which are the new right.

01:32:36.000 But the sad thing is, you're competing with people like Mike Tokes as Gen Z. Me as a millennial, I look at you and see you with Mike Tokes.

01:32:48.000 And you're more like me than you are like Mike Tokes.

01:32:51.000 Hmm.

01:32:54.000 And I noticed the difference in ideology. 0.93

01:32:57.000 You know, it basically goes the boomers are left. 0.74

01:33:02.000 Richard Spencer is technically like a right wing, but for me, you're middle. 0.93

01:33:10.000 You know, you're a fence.

01:33:14.000 You know, you don't want to commit too much to the left and you don't want to commit too much to the left.

01:33:20.000 I'm not a left wing person at all.

01:33:21.000 I'm not a left wing person at all.

01:33:22.000 No, no, no, I know, I do.

01:33:25.000 I know that.

01:33:27.000 It's not about.

01:33:28.000 Look, it's not about.

01:33:29.000 You've got it all wrong if you think that, like.

01:33:34.000 Look, I'm the most right wing person because I'm basically a theocrat.

01:33:39.000 I mean, if I'm a crypto anything, I'm basically a crypto theocrat.

01:33:43.000 You know, I don't believe.

01:33:44.000 I think the spectrum is not about how much of a radical white nationalist are you.

01:33:51.000 If that means you're right wing, no.

01:33:53.000 What makes you right wing is you have a belief in order, you have a belief in tradition, you have a belief in hierarchy, authority.

01:34:00.000 All of those things make you right wing.

01:34:02.000 That you autistically talk about Jews and the white race does not make you right wing.

01:34:07.000 So I am a very far right person.

01:34:10.000 I'm more far right than Richard Spencer.

01:34:13.000 Richard Spencer is not very far right.

01:34:15.000 He's an identitarian, but that doesn't make him a far right.

01:34:17.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

01:34:18.000 Yeah, I see.

01:34:20.000 Richard Spencer is a mind person and deals with things of the mind.

01:34:29.000 He creates things out of his own mind.

01:34:32.000 And I agree with all of them, just so you know.

01:34:36.000 He can create these ideas.

01:34:38.000 And I go, yeah, I love those ideas, but the implementation of the ideas is what it comes down to.

01:34:44.000 And that's where you come into it.

01:34:47.000 Where you can agree with parts of the ideas, but the implementation of the ideas is where you come in.

01:34:55.000 No, I'm not trying to implement Richard Spencer's ideas, believe me.

01:34:58.000 No, yeah, you say that, you say that.

01:35:01.000 But to me, I see you as you're the middle ground between me and Richard Spencer.

01:35:08.000 That's where it comes in.

01:35:10.000 Well, you know, this is really.

01:35:12.000 I disagree with a lot of this.

01:35:13.000 I mean, look.

01:35:15.000 A lot of this sounds like a Jared Holt hit piece.

01:35:18.000 I mean, really, I'm not a crypto anything.

01:35:21.000 I'm not a crypto. 0.90

01:35:23.000 I'm secretly a part of the Spencer revolution.

01:35:25.000 I mean, that's just not true.

01:35:27.000 And I don't understand where you come on here and you say, I understand that you can't talk about this to get into elected office.

01:35:37.000 And that's why you secretly talk about it, right?

01:35:40.000 And it just doesn't make any sense.

01:35:41.000 But thanks for calling.

01:35:43.000 All right, Lenny.

01:35:44.000 Well, I gave my point across, but.

01:35:47.000 If you don't want to listen, all right, take it easy.

01:35:50.000 Bye bye.

01:35:51.000 I don't understand.

01:35:52.000 I don't understand why people do this.

01:35:57.000 And this is why people don't want to tell the truth because you start telling the truth a little bit and then people come on and they say, He's saying it.

01:36:08.000 He's saying it.

01:36:09.000 Hey, SPLC, ADL, he's saying it.

01:36:13.000 And then it's like, No, no, no, I wasn't saying anything.

01:36:16.000 And so I just don't understand.

01:36:19.000 There's like, no.

01:36:22.000 I'll never forget.

01:36:23.000 It's like when I was young, it was my dad's birthday, and my mom got him an iPod Nano for his birthday.

01:36:31.000 This was like 2004, 2005, when the iPod just came on the scene.

01:36:38.000 And I'll never forget.

01:36:40.000 I knew what the gift was, but we just got done with dinner.

01:36:43.000 We were ready to give out the gifts.

01:36:45.000 And I was like, oh, do you want to know what your gift is?

01:36:47.000 I'll mouth it iPod.

01:36:49.000 It was just so obvious.

01:36:52.000 And that's essentially, I'm my mom.

01:36:56.000 And the children, being me as a young person mouthing iPod, are people like that.

01:37:02.000 Where they just make it so obvious, you know, where.

01:37:06.000 But of course, what am I even saying at this point?

01:37:08.000 Who knows?

01:37:09.000 Who even knows what I'm saying?

01:37:10.000 Who can even keep track of all this lunacy?

01:37:12.000 I'm just a traditionalist, American nationalist, trying to make my way.

01:37:17.000 Not about white nationalism, not about Nazism, any of that stuff.

01:37:22.000 Never have been.

01:37:23.000 But I don't know.

01:37:24.000 People are not very tactical, they're not thinking tactically.

01:37:29.000 Let's see, they want to come on and do this, like this wink wink nudge.

01:37:32.000 Oh, you're with us, right?

01:37:33.000 No, no, get away from me.

01:37:34.000 I'm not with you.

01:37:35.000 I'm by myself, you know?

01:37:38.000 And I don't like to be not friendly. 0.95

01:37:39.000 I don't like to be rude, but I'm not going to compromise, you know, my political career because somebody wants to make a joke about the JQ.

01:37:49.000 Give me a break.

01:37:50.000 Let's see, we've got, we'll bring in a couple more people.

01:37:54.000 Excuse me, it's almost a two hour show.

01:37:56.000 We might as well go the full two hours.

01:37:58.000 I'm getting a lot of Stream Labs.

01:37:59.000 Maybe I'll go into Stream Labs.

01:38:01.000 And we'll see.

01:38:04.000 People are doing.

01:38:05.000 Oh, they're.

01:38:06.000 Oh, great.

01:38:07.000 They're spamming one cent cheers.

01:38:11.000 That's.

01:38:13.000 I love people.

01:38:14.000 People are really fantastic when they do that.

01:38:16.000 I'm going to have to change the limit on the Twitch because people can donate a Twitch like cheer, which is worth a penny.

01:38:26.000 And so they can spam, basically.

01:38:28.000 So I don't know what I'm going to do about that.

01:38:31.000 I'll have to do that for another show.

01:38:32.000 But let's try and bring in another caller here.

01:38:35.000 Actually, I'll take super chats and then I'll bring in another caller.

01:38:39.000 We've got LC1707 who says JF is done with this stream.

01:38:39.000 Let's see.

01:38:44.000 Good.

01:38:45.000 AJ says, good debate last night, big guy.

01:38:47.000 Hysterically funny.

01:38:49.000 Thank you.

01:38:50.000 Glad you enjoyed.

01:38:51.000 Skeleton, what's a Discord link, my knifey dude?

01:38:54.000 Well, we posted that a few times in there.

01:38:56.000 Joshua Larson, hi, Nick.

01:38:58.000 Can you say a few words about the Gen Xers? 1.00

01:39:01.000 I swear, latchkeys can be more cringe than boomers. 1.00

01:39:04.000 All they do is complain about millennials, drink beer, listen to God smack, and wear cargo shorts. 1.00

01:39:09.000 That's a very accurate characterization, actually. 0.99

01:39:12.000 Gen X, in many ways, in my run ins with Gen X, in many ways, they're worse than boomers, I have to say, because Gen X. 0.94

01:39:20.000 They gave us the hipster, right? 0.98

01:39:23.000 Gavin McGinnis is Gen X. There's a lot of Gen X people.

01:39:28.000 The guy debated last night was Gen X. They're almost more pathetic in the sense that the boomer, Dare Boomer, at the very least, almost has a master morality about them in the sense that they stole all the wealth of the country. 0.96

01:39:44.000 Whoops. 0.99

01:39:46.000 They've, my bad.

01:39:47.000 They've like hoarded all the wealth of the country.

01:39:50.000 They've accumulated it and they sit on it while everybody else is poor.

01:39:54.000 They make fun of us online. 1.00

01:39:56.000 They're aggressively naive and foolish about politics. 1.00

01:40:00.000 And there's something to be said about that. 0.99

01:40:02.000 There's almost a master morality to it where it's like the Chad mess up the country and not even care a boomer versus the virgin, poor, has nothing, has no family, is just kind of a sad, skinny person, Gen Xer. 0.98

01:40:19.000 I mean, that's the real contrast. 1.00

01:40:21.000 So, in many ways, I think you put the Gen Xer versus the boomer, and I think the boomer is actually the Chad.

01:40:28.000 The boomer is like, yeah, so what?

01:40:30.000 I don't care. 1.00

01:40:31.000 I'm wearing my knee high white socks on a cruise with some stupid hat. 1.00

01:40:37.000 Yeah, I wrecked the country. 1.00

01:40:38.000 Yeah, I'm hoarding all the money.

01:40:40.000 And I'm going to be loud and obnoxious online. 0.99

01:40:43.000 And then when I die, the whole country's going to go to hell. 0.90

01:40:45.000 And it's almost like the manifestation, it's the epitome of the Chad meme. 1.00

01:40:51.000 Whereas the Gen Xers just kind of have no wealth, they have no money, they're not married. 1.00

01:40:56.000 So, very rough. 1.00

01:40:59.000 Overseer says, God bless you and keep up the good work, Nick.

01:41:02.000 Hashtag MAGA.

01:41:03.000 Thank you, big guy.

01:41:05.000 Frederick White, is Richard Spencer a future Catholic? 0.98

01:41:08.000 He might be, right?

01:41:09.000 He was very, sounding very sympathetic to the Catholic faith last night.

01:41:13.000 Much appreciated.

01:41:15.000 Platt says, the Midwest will decide the future of this country.

01:41:18.000 It's true, Midwest futurism.

01:41:20.000 And we're all about it here.

01:41:22.000 Platt says, I want to debate Brian Gilgore on your show.

01:41:26.000 I'll get right on that.

01:41:27.000 I'll set that up immediately.

01:41:29.000 Nelson Nunes, hello, Nick.

01:41:31.000 Am I on a list now for donating to you?

01:41:33.000 No, because I'm good at optics.

01:41:35.000 Valentine with a big donation.

01:41:37.000 Much appreciated.

01:41:38.000 Thank you for the $50 super chat.

01:41:41.000 Very generous. 0.98

01:41:42.000 Valentine says dispensationalism and bad eschatology are the main reasons why Christians are such ardent and yet ignorant supporters of Israel. 0.53

01:41:51.000 God's people are those who are redeemed by Christ. 0.86

01:41:54.000 Exactly.

01:41:55.000 And that's the mischaracterization of what is said in the Bible, which is that in the New Testament, the new covenant, All followers of Christ are made to be God's chosen people.

01:42:07.000 All followers of Christ are Israel.

01:42:11.000 And that's the misconception.

01:42:12.000 This is why it's so unfortunate when you debate people who say Jesus was a Jew.

01:42:18.000 It's like, kind of.

01:42:20.000 You know, if you really have an understanding of the theology of the history of it, you know that's a pernicious half truth.

01:42:29.000 But people who are not arguing in good faith like to throw that out, and it's, oh, I've won the argument. 0.93

01:42:34.000 I said he's a Jew, and therefore, and it's like, so what, you know? 0.70

01:42:38.000 But Joshua Larson says, hi again, Nick. 0.92

01:42:41.000 Who was the smartest man in the Bible?

01:42:43.000 Abraham.

01:42:44.000 He knew a lot.

01:42:45.000 I needed to end on a more positive note.

01:42:47.000 Have a good weekend, Kim Wasabi.

01:42:49.000 Yes, have a good weekend, you as well.

01:42:52.000 Frederick White, not a good guy, not cool, buddy.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, okay.

01:42:56.000 Let me openly praise people and get on a watch list.

01:42:59.000 Would that be preferred?

01:43:02.000 Tzemek77 says, My Chinese wife and me, a white Polish American, support Nick Fuentes.

01:43:08.000 Well, much appreciated.

01:43:09.000 Glad to hear it.

01:43:11.000 And, you know, we are against, we are, we do warn about the risks. 1.00

01:43:18.000 Of race mixing, of mixed marriages, but for the benefit of that journalist who was pestering me the other day, I don't hate people who are in mixed marriages. 0.98

01:43:27.000 I don't want to pass laws against mixed marriages. 0.97

01:43:29.000 I just say you should understand the risks, which are that there's a higher rate of domestic abuse, there's a higher rate of mental illness in the kids, and I'm not trying to say that to nag you, but I had some journalist on Twitter the other day giving me a hard time saying, You said you don't like mixed marriages, so that means you're a white nationalist who wants to make them illegal and kill everyone. 0.82

01:43:51.000 It's like, what? 0.68

01:43:52.000 No, I just like to promote the statistics.

01:43:55.000 The more you know, the more you know.

01:43:58.000 Thank you.

01:43:58.000 But appreciate it.

01:43:59.000 Gary, I like that super chat because it proves that I am a good guy and I am not a crazy genocidal maniac.

01:44:08.000 Gary Bacchus says Dr. William Pierce had the JQ figured out long ago.

01:44:14.000 I'm not going to promote William Pierce's stuff. 0.98

01:44:16.000 William Pierce was a lunatic.

01:44:18.000 And, you know, if you disagree with that, read the synopsis of the Turner Diaries on Wikipedia. 0.97

01:44:24.000 It's just Batshit crazy stuff that has no place in a serious intellectual or political movement.

01:44:30.000 It should be ostracized, but yet we have people that want to boost that.

01:44:34.000 I appreciate the super chat, but I'm not going to promote Pierce.

01:44:39.000 Augusto Pinochet says Europa first with a V, very stylized.

01:44:44.000 Well, thank you for the super chat, and yes, but the show is America first, not Europa first.

01:44:50.000 Frederick White, I'm Gen X.

01:44:52.000 I do not fit your stereotypes.

01:44:53.000 Suddenly we have a problem with stereotypes, huh?

01:44:56.000 Ian Weber, please take Holy American Empire on the next call.

01:45:00.000 Thank you.

01:45:02.000 All right, I'll take on that gentleman.

01:45:06.000 Yeah, William Pierce is a fad, says somebody. 0.95

01:45:08.000 Yeah, probably.

01:45:10.000 Let's take a look.

01:45:11.000 I'll bring in who is it that they wanted?

01:45:13.000 Holy American Empire?

01:45:14.000 I'll bring him in.

01:45:16.000 And this will be we got 10 more minutes, and then I'm taking off.

01:45:20.000 And then I'm going to go see Black Panther. 0.87

01:45:23.000 Hello, Mr. Holy American Empire. 0.97

01:45:25.000 What's going on?

01:45:27.000 Hey, Nick.

01:45:28.000 Hey, Ian.

01:45:30.000 All right.

01:45:31.000 So I wanted two questions, a short one at the end, and then I wanted to ask you one about the stream you did with Richard Spencer.

01:45:37.000 Okay.

01:45:38.000 So when you were on with JF and Richard, Richard said something along the lines of that white people have to be, or it's natural that white people are going to have to be the caretakers of other nations, of like people who may not be able to develop a nation, such as India, where we kind of had to work them from the ground, or the British worked them from the ground up. 0.93

01:46:00.000 And then, so like, I agree with the sentiment. 0.65

01:46:03.000 But what he said was that it's a liberal take to say that I'm a nationalist for all nations.

01:46:09.000 And I don't know exactly what he meant by that.

01:46:11.000 But what I would say is reasonable is that each race or people should have a region in the world, at least one nation, where they could be able to have their own nation.

01:46:24.000 So, like, what did you think about his statement?

01:46:27.000 Yeah, well, he talked about like a colonial imperium.

01:46:32.000 And I understand what he meant by.

01:46:35.000 This nationalism for all nations is a liberal sentiment because it's inherently universalist, which is a liberal premise.

01:46:43.000 The idea that all people are capable of having their own nations or would fit inside Westphalian nation state borders.

01:46:52.000 I think there's some truth to that.

01:46:54.000 However, my opposition to Spencer's ideas in a broad sense is that Spencer, to a degree, I think is a bit of a utopian, a bit of a progressive.

01:47:06.000 And also a bit of a constructivist in a Hayekian sense.

01:47:10.000 Hayek said that the dichotomy is between constructivists and between people who believe in something called spontaneous order.

01:47:17.000 He said the constructivists believe that society is built from the top down, it's designed.

01:47:22.000 It's that if you want to, you look at like a socialist or a liberal in this country, they want to design the country from the top down.

01:47:30.000 They want to build a system and they want to force everybody to fit into it.

01:47:33.000 But of course, the people who believe in spontaneous order understand.

01:47:37.000 The world is a lot different than that.

01:47:39.000 You don't really get to design.

01:47:40.000 You don't really get to choose.

01:47:41.000 Things evolve.

01:47:43.000 Institutions are not designed, they grow organically through people and through families doing and choosing how they want to behave.

01:47:52.000 And so I think my big problem with this ethnostate conception is that it's constructivist, it's progressive.

01:47:58.000 This idea that we'll ever get to a point where it'll be that good, where it'll be like we can just pick and choose, and some people will be over here and some will be over there, and there'll be no conflict, there'll be no ethnic mixing.

01:48:11.000 Exactly. 0.91

01:48:11.000 And so then that's where you get into utopianism. 0.91

01:48:14.000 So that's really my main opposition to that.

01:48:16.000 But I get what he means by the nationalism for all nations.

01:48:19.000 I just think for now, that's the most pragmatic thing.

01:48:23.000 Yeah.

01:48:24.000 Okay.

01:48:24.000 Yeah.

01:48:25.000 I agree with that statement.

01:48:25.000 I agree.

01:48:26.000 And then for the short question is well, this is Ian Weber.

01:48:30.000 I just used this.

01:48:31.000 This is just my Discord name.

01:48:32.000 So I don't know if you'll remember.

01:48:34.000 Hopefully, you will.

01:48:35.000 I used to use Cool Apple as my name.

01:48:37.000 Super Chef.

01:48:37.000 Yeah.

01:48:38.000 Do you think so?

01:48:38.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 I'm going to be applying for colleges soon, and I don't want to risk anything with colleges seeing.

01:48:44.000 Anything I've said on Twitter or whatever, you think I should go back to Cool Apple or something else?

01:48:49.000 You know, I don't think it'll really affect anything.

01:48:53.000 I got to be honest.

01:48:54.000 I mean, you have to understand that it's like, I mean, as a precaution, I would take every precaution just to be safe.

01:49:01.000 However, the odds that somebody's going to, somebody had heard your name on the Super Chat on the show and then they like met you IRL and they like called somebody.

01:49:12.000 I mean, like the odds of that happening are probably very slim, but I would take every precaution because you don't want to.

01:49:18.000 You don't want to leave yourself in a vulnerable position, but I don't think you'd be in too much trouble.

01:49:24.000 Yeah.

01:49:24.000 And then just something really quick also is that what you were saying about people pointing out the things you've said about that aren't really accepted in journalism?

01:49:35.000 You know what I'm talking about when you were talking about the angle?

01:49:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:39.000 Yeah.

01:49:40.000 Something like I don't know if you'll get the reference I'm trying to get at, but when you've talked about George Takai and him being a statesman, I'm.

01:49:49.000 I'm glad I've never heard anyone like Spurgout be like, oh, he's a crypto supporter.

01:49:55.000 Like, if you get what I'm saying, it's a good thing.

01:49:59.000 It's a good thing.

01:49:59.000 Exactly.

01:50:00.000 Well, yeah, I mean, look, we're the number one George Takai fan club on here.

01:50:05.000 He's a great man who loves his country and loves his people and really didn't do anything wrong.

01:50:11.000 I can think of a few things maybe, but not really big things.

01:50:14.000 So, yeah, no, I mean, that's kind of just it is that you have to be concerned with the branding, you have to be concerned with the optics.

01:50:24.000 And people want to pretend like they're above that, like it's beneath them.

01:50:29.000 It's immoral to do that.

01:50:30.000 But You know, look, it's almost 99%, almost entirely how you appear, how you look.

01:50:37.000 And, you know, we joke a lot on this show.

01:50:39.000 I think that's the problem a lot of times a journalist will watch this show.

01:50:42.000 They don't get when we're being ironic, when we're not being ironic, you know, because a lot of it is, almost all of it's ironic for the most part.

01:50:49.000 And that's what I think it helps to throw in a lot of the silly and goofy elements is to make it a little bit lighter, a little bit more funny.

01:50:56.000 But, you know, at the end of the day, we're just about strong, safe American communities.

01:51:02.000 And that's it, nothing else.

01:51:05.000 Yeah.

01:51:05.000 All right.

01:51:06.000 Thanks for taking the call.

01:51:07.000 I had to throw a little cash in because I got to get going.

01:51:09.000 All good, man.

01:51:10.000 I didn't make the last call.

01:51:12.000 Thanks for having me.

01:51:13.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:14.000 Thanks for calling.

01:51:14.000 Take it easy.

01:51:16.000 All right.

01:51:16.000 Bye-bye.

01:51:17.000 And a good call.

01:51:18.000 Very friendly.

01:51:19.000 That sounds like a friendly guy.

01:51:21.000 That sounds like a very friendly person.

01:51:24.000 Let's take a look.

01:51:25.000 That was a good conversation.

01:51:27.000 We'll take maybe one or two more.

01:51:32.000 Let's take in Mr. Sean Hoy.

01:51:40.000 Hello, Mr. Sean Hoy.

01:51:41.000 What's going on?

01:51:43.000 Hey, what's going on, buddy?

01:51:45.000 Nothing much.

01:51:46.000 What's up with you?

01:51:48.000 Oh, just enjoying the weather, I suppose.

01:51:52.000 It's been a protracted winter this year.

01:51:55.000 Yes, yes, I hear you, man.

01:51:57.000 I hear you on that.

01:51:59.000 I'm not sure what's worse over here in New England or you over in the Midwest there.

01:52:05.000 I think it might be New England because I was in, like, when I left Boston this time last year, it was literally, it was like a Blizzard.

01:52:13.000 There was snow on the ground, and I came here to warm.

01:52:15.000 So that's why, unironically, with my hand over my heart, I left college.

01:52:23.000 A big reason was because it was too cold. 0.88

01:52:25.000 I was like, it's fucking ridiculous that it's May and there's like frozen ice on the ground, and I'm wearing a winter jacket. 0.93

01:52:34.000 I can't do it anymore. 0.98

01:52:37.000 The death threats, the weather.

01:52:39.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:52:40.000 I'm going.

01:52:41.000 This much the death threats and the weather, and also the lack of a Taco Bell.

01:52:44.000 You know, those were the big reasons.

01:52:46.000 Yeah.

01:52:46.000 Yeah, what is up with that?

01:52:48.000 There's not one.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, there's one in my town, but I'm relatively far away from Boston, about an hour.

01:52:55.000 But yeah, I go in there.

01:52:58.000 I had an internship at the Statehouse and no Taco Bell.

01:53:02.000 I'm like, what is this?

01:53:05.000 Why?

01:53:05.000 And I remember looking it up.

01:53:07.000 I'm like, this can't be right.

01:53:10.000 There is not a single Taco Bell.

01:53:14.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:14.000 No, there's exactly one.

01:53:16.000 It's in.

01:53:18.000 It's in, where's it?

01:53:19.000 It's in Cambridge, and it's in a mall.

01:53:22.000 So it's like, it's not even in Boston.

01:53:24.000 Cambridge isn't even in Boston.

01:53:26.000 It's like, I mean, yeah, you could kind of like a neighborhood, eh, but.

01:53:29.000 So it's like, it's so out of the way, and it's in a mall, so it closes at like 7 o'clock.

01:53:34.000 Not one. 0.98

01:53:34.000 Ridiculous. 0.98

01:53:35.000 Why? 0.98

01:53:36.000 I just want a Chalupa Supreme and like a triple melt nacho.

01:53:43.000 Is that too much to ask for?

01:53:45.000 I got to settle.

01:53:45.000 They don't have Chick fil A either.

01:53:47.000 We got you covered for like 500 Dunkin' Donuts.

01:53:50.000 I mean.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:52.000 Literally.

01:53:54.000 On both sides of every street corner, we had no Taco Bell.

01:53:59.000 So, what's on your mind?

01:54:00.000 What's up?

01:54:03.000 I was actually wanting to ask a question about have you looked up much information on Shiva?

01:54:11.000 That's the based Indian.

01:54:16.000 I was kind of thinking of campaigning for him, but I'm not entirely certain. 1.00

01:54:22.000 I know you've said in the past that going to your county GOP meetings would be a good idea, but I see them.

01:54:30.000 Chilling for this guy.

01:54:31.000 His name is Jeff Deal.

01:54:33.000 And apparently, he was some like operative for Ted Cruz that was sort of brought in as like, I don't know, like a disruptive person into like Trump politics in the area, which is very strange.

01:54:46.000 And he even like photoshopped himself to look like he was shaking hands with Donald Trump, even though Donald Trump was actually pointing his finger at Jeff Deal's chest, like, you know, showing disapproval.

01:54:59.000 Oh, really?

01:55:00.000 Trump, yeah, Trump knew what he was about, but the Photoshop was so bad you can actually see a third arm.

01:55:05.000 So he didn't even edit out the bit where Trump was clearly not shaking his hand.

01:55:11.000 You could see this third arm in the picture, and it was very odd.

01:55:14.000 But I was wondering since Shiva's running as an independent, would that still be a worthy pursuit?

01:55:23.000 I have reservations about him because he's kind of like in the, I don't know, sort of Cerno New Right kind of, I don't know, sphere.

01:55:33.000 But some of the things that Shiva does promote, I can agree with 100%, you know, promoting more of the tech schools and the like.

01:55:44.000 And even if he's talking about things in more of a sort of general, vague sense, just the deep state exposing elements of that, I can be on board with him for that.

01:55:58.000 I don't know what your thoughts are on.

01:55:59.000 I got to be honest, I don't really see a future where Shiva wins, and it almost defeats the whole purpose.

01:56:06.000 Of campaigning and getting involved, which is to network.

01:56:08.000 You know, you go to the Republican Party not because you like the candidate that's on the ticket, but because you get to know the people behind the scenes and then maybe you get to choose who's on the ticket.

01:56:18.000 And so, Sheba, it's almost you get the worst of both worlds.

01:56:24.000 You get a candidate that loses and you get no connections, no networking.

01:56:27.000 So, I'd probably advise, if it were me, I'd probably go in for the Republican Party. 0.72

01:56:31.000 But I understand they're very cucked.

01:56:33.000 So, you have to, it's going to be a lot of willpower to go there.

01:56:37.000 Yeah, I've been trying.

01:56:38.000 I mean, because I've tried before with them to intern over the summer.

01:56:42.000 Granted, it was about 60 applicants for the position, and they only had like about 20 spots to fill.

01:56:49.000 I didn't make the cut.

01:56:50.000 I thought I presented pretty well in my interview, if I'm going to be honest.

01:56:53.000 But yeah, I wasn't chosen for that.

01:56:58.000 Instead, I just did some work for my House rep, who's unfortunately Democrat.

01:57:03.000 But, you know, I got some networking opportunities there.

01:57:07.000 Well, that's what it's all about.

01:57:07.000 For sure.

01:57:08.000 It's in politics.

01:57:10.000 You would be surprised because people, if you don't know anybody in politics, you would be surprised just how much it works like you might imagine it works.

01:57:19.000 And it's, excuse me, it's literally all about shaking hands.

01:57:24.000 It's all about just who you know.

01:57:27.000 And that's it.

01:57:28.000 I mean, you go to, because I know people that are in politics or in media, and the totality of it is people hooking each other up.

01:57:37.000 And that, it almost, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

01:57:41.000 That's how it works.

01:57:43.000 But we have to use that to our advantage.

01:57:45.000 We have to understand that that's how it works. 1.00

01:57:46.000 And so, when people are doing this autistic talk about ideology and principles and all that, it's like that is just so outside of the skill set that it requires for us to wield power. 1.00

01:57:59.000 And, you know, Spencer, even Spencer, talked about the other night we want to wield power, and yet he acts like somebody who doesn't want to wield power. 1.00

01:58:07.000 He does everything in his power almost to avoid wielding any kind of institutional power.

01:58:13.000 So, it's just ironic that the people, it seems like they understand we need to hold political power, and yet.

01:58:20.000 They don't want to do what it takes to acquire it, but that's what has to happen.

01:58:24.000 So, would you say that networking in the short term is worthwhile for more, I don't know, like just 2020?

01:58:32.000 Because 2018 in Massachusetts just seems sort of doomed, more or less.

01:58:37.000 Well, anything that we're talking about is long term.

01:58:40.000 That's 2020, 2022, 2024, but you got to start doing it now.

01:58:45.000 And you just got to think about it in terms of people who are able to utilize time.

01:58:51.000 Are the most successful people. 0.90

01:58:53.000 If you're looking at something, and this is a big thing with mentality and mindset, if you're looking at something in terms of singularly the present, you're like a high time preference African who will sell seeds in exchange for jewelry. 0.96

01:59:08.000 They'll sell seeds, they won't plant them in the ground so that they could get a cool necklace now. 1.00

01:59:13.000 And that's why Africa is still in the Stone Ages. 0.97

01:59:16.000 You have to understand that we work in time. 0.97

01:59:19.000 And so it's not just talking about an election, it's not just talking about this or that.

01:59:23.000 It's with the idea in mind that maybe in 10 or 15 years, we own the Republican Party.

01:59:27.000 I mean, that's the kind of power we're talking about.

01:59:30.000 If we can use time, if we can move in time and bide our time.

01:59:35.000 But people want instant gratification.

01:59:38.000 They want to show up to a rally and yell and scream.

01:59:41.000 They want everything to work out today.

01:59:42.000 And so they turn their noses up on short term victories or short term gains. 0.99

01:59:47.000 And that's just plain dumb. 0.87

01:59:49.000 So, yes, network as much as you can, shake as many hands as you can. 0.95

01:59:53.000 Any opportunity, you would be surprised. 1.00

01:59:56.000 As somebody who's like a self starter and doing something by himself, you'd be surprised the contacts that come in handy by just stupid shit that you do. 1.00

02:00:05.000 Things you don't even like, things that you don't even see the value in. 0.99

02:00:09.000 I called up a contact from the Trump campaign to write me a letter of recommendation for a job at L.I.

02:00:16.000 Then when I went to L.I., I met all kinds of people that are mobilizing for all kinds of different things.

02:00:21.000 I mean, so it has this compound effect where.

02:00:24.000 It's networking.

02:00:25.000 You network with one person and then they introduce you to their network and on and on.

02:00:29.000 That's what we have to do.

02:00:30.000 You have to understand that that's invaluable in our movement.

02:00:34.000 Yeah, I totally get that.

02:00:36.000 It's just, I suppose, in the short term, it's very discouraging when I went to a lot of these networking opportunities.

02:00:43.000 And I don't mean to boast or anything, but I present very well with the suit and tie and shaking hands.

02:00:52.000 I'm very good at projecting.

02:00:55.000 It's just the problem is just.

02:00:58.000 Nothing ever comes of it, I suppose.

02:01:02.000 You'll get into some of these positions.

02:01:03.000 It's like, oh, well, you're looking for the spot at this marketing firm or some corporate office or something.

02:01:12.000 It's like, oh, yeah, yeah.

02:01:13.000 Oh, well, this is great.

02:01:14.000 And you did such and such with marketing research.

02:01:17.000 Oh, awesome.

02:01:18.000 And then you get no call.

02:01:22.000 Well, it's just, I understand.

02:01:24.000 I understand.

02:01:25.000 It is discouraging.

02:01:26.000 Look, let me tell you something.

02:01:28.000 I'm a very antisocial person.

02:01:30.000 People have it that I'm like an extrovert.

02:01:32.000 If you've ever met me in person, I don't know.

02:01:35.000 I'm kind of, I have to be in person, but I don't enjoy it.

02:01:40.000 When it's small talk and it's chit chat, I want to blow my brains out.

02:01:43.000 Don't get me wrong, but that's how we build the network.

02:01:46.000 Because imagine you go in your Republican Party.

02:01:50.000 Now, imagine there's a thousand people like you, and there's 50 states in the country.

02:01:56.000 So, what is that?

02:01:56.000 That would be 20 people in every state.

02:01:59.000 Imagine if we had 20 people in every state in their local party, and they controlled something or they knew people.

02:02:05.000 Imagine a nationwide network that we would have at our disposal a phone call away.

02:02:12.000 You could connect to somebody in California or Alaska or New York or Texas.

02:02:17.000 And their GOP and their infrastructure there.

02:02:20.000 That's the power.

02:02:20.000 And that's a thousand people.

02:02:22.000 That's the power of networking.

02:02:23.000 That's the kind of infrastructure we need to build up.

02:02:26.000 That's the only way to do it.

02:02:28.000 And it looks like it's, and it's discouraging now because it'll be, we're the first face and we have to take the initiative.

02:02:35.000 But in five, six, seven years, you'll see it pay off.

02:02:39.000 It'll have grown, it'll have compounded, and we'll be in a very good position.

02:02:43.000 But that's what has to be done.

02:02:44.000 And I hope, I put out this show in the hopes that people are doing that.

02:02:48.000 I'm not, I don't have the time, unfortunately, to preside over like a major organization or network.

02:02:54.000 But if people are doing this, if people are taking the initiative and showing up, then we should be in a very good position where we can mobilize very quickly and we could exercise some real influence.

02:03:05.000 Talk about moving the Overton window. 0.99

02:03:07.000 Fuck that. 0.99

02:03:08.000 If we wield real influence pragmatically in party organizations across the country, we will be able to pick and choose candidates. 1.00

02:03:16.000 We'll be able to pick and choose the people that write the laws.

02:03:19.000 Forget tweeting.

02:03:20.000 You know, that's what we're looking at, that's the bigger picture.

02:03:25.000 So, you were, what was the organization called?

02:03:28.000 Was it Boston Students for Trump?

02:03:30.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:03:31.000 Right.

02:03:32.000 You don't have to name names or anything, but do you have any recommendations for contacts I should reach out to?

02:03:39.000 Well, yeah, you can shoot me an email and I can hook you up because I know all kinds of people in the area.

02:03:45.000 Unfortunately, it wasn't a big organization because there's simply not very many Trump kind of people in Boston.

02:03:53.000 All the Republicans.

02:03:54.000 Unfortunately, yeah.

02:03:55.000 They were all, yeah, they were established, which I'm sure you know they're all establishment people, but yeah, I can hook you up.

02:04:00.000 Just shoot me an email.

02:04:02.000 Yeah, I even listened to this speech during the orientation for the internship from Charlie Baker, and it was the most lukewarm, oh God, painful.

02:04:13.000 Yeah, what a character.

02:04:16.000 It's interesting.

02:04:17.000 Tucker Carlson was talking about how the most worrisome moment in politics is when the Democrats and Republicans are reaching across the aisle and shaking hands, but he.

02:04:30.000 Goes up on stage and talks about how that's such a great thing.

02:04:33.000 It's like, well, yeah, you're capitulating on all the issues, bud.

02:04:37.000 No one thinks you're actually right wing.

02:04:39.000 Well, they're conspiring to kill and crush middle America.

02:04:44.000 Right. 0.78

02:04:45.000 But that's all the time I got.

02:04:46.000 I got to run.

02:04:47.000 But thanks so much for the call.

02:04:48.000 Great discussion.

02:04:49.000 And we'll see you around, okay?

02:04:52.000 Yeah.

02:04:52.000 Thanks, Nick.

02:04:53.000 All right.

02:04:54.000 See you.

02:04:54.000 Take it easy, big guy.

02:04:56.000 Bye bye.

02:04:57.000 Well, there you have it.

02:04:57.000 All right.

02:04:59.000 That's our call in show.

02:05:00.000 That's all.

02:05:01.000 That's all we got for you.

02:05:03.000 Two hours and ten minutes.

02:05:04.000 That's a long show, folks.

02:05:05.000 That's a long show.

02:05:07.000 And I got to get to Wakanda.

02:05:09.000 I got to see the Black Panther in theaters. 0.65

02:05:12.000 So that's going to do it for us here on the show.

02:05:14.000 Thanks for.

02:05:15.000 Oh, you know what?

02:05:16.000 Let me get my Stream Labs real quick before we go.

02:05:19.000 Before we go, hold up.

02:05:20.000 Before we go, we'll do a couple of Stream Labs and Super Chats, then we'll go.

02:05:25.000 You guys are killing me.

02:05:26.000 It's just a little two and a half hours, basically, right?

02:05:30.000 Excuse me.

02:05:35.000 Mokchi says, Did you see Alex Jones, BTFO, Ben Shapiro on the Blaze?

02:05:40.000 He said, Get behind me, Satan, and then we should pray he finds Christ.

02:05:44.000 Yeah, very good.

02:05:45.000 That was good to see.

02:05:47.000 The donated says, and no one talks about that.

02:05:49.000 Essentially, doesn't it come down.

02:05:50.000 Oh, no, I'm sorry.

02:05:51.000 He sent one before.

02:05:53.000 Do you believe in man made catastrophic climate change?

02:05:56.000 Antinatalism, third world immigration, and foreign aid is leading to an exploding low IQ population that doesn't care about the environment. 0.94

02:06:03.000 And no one talks about that. 0.53

02:06:05.000 Essentially, doesn't it come down to if the computer simulations were done in good faith?

02:06:09.000 Also, it seems everybody has forgotten about the hysteria a few years ago.

02:06:13.000 Yeah, I mean, look, climate change.

02:06:15.000 Is real, but man is not causing it, which is undisputable in terms of the scientific evidence, because there is no scientific evidence out of all the variables that influence climate, which you think of it's the ocean, it's the distance from the sun, it's the heat of the sun, it's sun cycles, it's all kinds of things.

02:06:35.000 I mean, you understand the scope and the scale of the planet, and the idea that we can narrow it down to one trend is caused by one variable is the height of bad science.

02:06:47.000 And bad logic.

02:06:49.000 So the climate is always changing.

02:06:52.000 That we are the sole cause or a big one, highly dubious.

02:06:56.000 And you're right. 0.63

02:06:57.000 I mean, if anybody were serious about climate change, I think maybe that's why the hysteria has died down so much, is because the logical conclusion is we have to shut down Africa's birth rate. 0.98

02:07:08.000 Because Africa will, mark my words, in the next century become the number one polluter in the world. 0.99

02:07:14.000 These African countries, where it's slated there'll be 9 billion Africans by 2100, and they'll be using. 1.00

02:07:20.000 You can bet very substandard methods to generate energy.

02:07:25.000 They'll be burning dung, they'll be burning coal, they'll be burning fossil fuels long after the developed world has stopped doing so.

02:07:32.000 Southeast Asia and East Asia is doing the same thing.

02:07:36.000 And they don't want to talk about that because that goes against their agenda.

02:07:40.000 So, yeah, I'm against that whole theory.

02:07:42.000 It's all wrong.

02:07:44.000 And we'll do a couple more super chats and then we got to go.

02:07:48.000 Let's see.

02:07:49.000 We've got.

02:07:51.000 Semastic says, What did what you did to coach Red Pill was beautiful.

02:07:56.000 You are like an eloquent version of Trump.

02:07:59.000 Thank you.

02:07:59.000 High praise.

02:08:00.000 What do you think about Poland and Polish people?

02:08:03.000 I like Poland and I like Polish people.

02:08:05.000 I'm a big fan.

02:08:07.000 Tzimsek says, We don't have children. 0.95

02:08:09.000 We're just pro white.

02:08:11.000 My Chinese wife left China because she hated China. 1.00

02:08:14.000 Well, good, good, good, good. 0.99

02:08:16.000 Maybe there is a future for Hoppe nationalism or Hoppe futurism.

02:08:20.000 He says, My Chinese wife. 0.51

02:08:22.000 Doesn't care for certain people. 1.00

02:08:24.000 We want a white ethnostate. 0.97

02:08:26.000 Oh, boy. 0.94

02:08:26.000 Well, there you go. 0.94

02:08:28.000 Very good.

02:08:30.000 Anarcho Architect says, doesn't want to be put on a watch list.

02:08:34.000 Delivers brutal bants on Ryder for Soros' hate watch list. 0.91

02:08:37.000 Yeah, there you go. 0.95

02:08:39.000 Dominic Liberator, Arthur only changed my mind on one issue.

02:08:43.000 I once thought only the younger generation suffered from autism.

02:08:46.000 Yes, very good.

02:08:48.000 Thoughts on the 17th Amendment, a complete disaster.

02:08:51.000 17th Amendment, which called for the direct election of senators.

02:08:56.000 Is the cause, one of the major causes of the systemic breakdown of Congress.

02:09:01.000 If you don't have a chamber for the states, you understand that the power of the people is diminished significantly and the checks and balances on the government, on the majorities, is diminished.

02:09:14.000 The founders created the Senate for a reason.

02:09:16.000 It was called the Great Compromise that they created the bicameral Congress with a chamber for the people and a chamber for the states.

02:09:23.000 So that they did away with that, I think, was a big fat mistake.

02:09:27.000 And you see the consequences of it.

02:09:28.000 I mean, you can read.

02:09:30.000 And I have it, I think, on my bookshelf, not down here, but somewhere else.

02:09:35.000 The Path to Power by Lyndon Johnson talks about his Senate campaign.

02:09:40.000 And you can see the kind of political machinations that go on with the Senate race in huge states with huge populations.

02:09:48.000 And what a perversion of what it was intended to be because it was never supposed to be that way that one person would represent all these people, it was that they would represent the interests of the states.

02:09:58.000 So, a big mistake.

02:10:00.000 And it looks like that's everything.

02:10:01.000 So, finally, we get to go.

02:10:03.000 But it's been a great show.

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02:11:08.000 I'm going to try and get some guests on, and hopefully, we'll have figured out the paywall situation by then as well.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - May 04, 2018

Jesus Christ Was Volcel | America First Ep. 158

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