America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Jordan Peterson Disappoints Everyone | America First Ep. 59

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00:00:01.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:03.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:07.000 Lots to get into.

00:00:09.000 Actually, not nothing at all to get into, to be honest.

00:00:13.000 Today, I'm looking through the news.

00:00:16.000 There's not one good story that hasn't been beat to death.

00:00:20.000 I mean, there's obviously the royal engagement yesterday, which we talked about for the whole 45 minutes, for the whole duration of the show.

00:00:28.000 There's more news about Roy Moore and the polls and Trump's reaction to that.

00:00:33.000 There's this thing going on in Zimbabwe that everybody's talking about, and that's about it.

00:00:38.000 Nothing else is going on.

00:00:40.000 It's very difficult.

00:00:41.000 You do a Monday through Friday show, very difficult.

00:00:43.000 You understand why the nightly shows can be so low quality, except for this one, because we find the stories.

00:00:49.000 But it just becomes very difficult.

00:00:52.000 And you know what else I realize?

00:00:53.000 I'm going through all my sources, I'm trying to find stories, and obviously there was a big incident today with the nuclear, or excuse me, with the ICBM fired by North Korea.

00:01:03.000 We'll be talking about that and some other things.

00:01:05.000 But.

00:01:06.000 You know what I noticed?

00:01:07.000 I'm on Breitbart, and people generally see Breitbart as far right.

00:01:12.000 People on the left see Breitbart as like neo Nazi.

00:01:15.000 People in the center see Breitbart as like very conservative.

00:01:19.000 People on the right, I guess, see Breitbart as good, as like a conservative version of an NBC or of a Huffington Post.

00:01:27.000 Maybe that's more accurate.

00:01:29.000 But I'm reading Breitbart, and the amount of Israel shilling on Breitbart is offensive.

00:01:34.000 It's downright offensive to me.

00:01:36.000 You know, this is supposed to be the far right.

00:01:39.000 Like the mainstream far right paper and the amount of shilling on just the front page alone.

00:01:44.000 I'm looking for what's going on because I get a little bit of both.

00:01:47.000 And not because they're equally viable, both left and right, but you just want to get a variety of what's going on in the news and what people are saying.

00:01:56.000 And just so much on Breitbart.

00:01:59.000 One of the stories was like in Palestine, they're teaching children that Israel was responsible for this massacre.

00:02:07.000 And just all kinds of similar stuff like that.

00:02:09.000 Daily Wire. 0.91

00:02:10.000 Tier stuff about how Iran is evil.

00:02:12.000 They might as well have Bibi Netanyahu running Breitbart, the way some of these stories are written about that conflict going on in the Middle East.

00:02:18.000 Just very offensive.

00:02:19.000 Because I read Pat Buchanan's column, or I read Ann Coulter's column, or I read on antiwar.com, and it's all very America first.

00:02:28.000 It's all very explicitly, unapologetically nationalist.

00:02:32.000 And Pat Buchanan, remember, he worked for Ronald Reagan.

00:02:34.000 He worked for Richard Nixon.

00:02:35.000 This is not some extremist guy.

00:02:37.000 He almost won the Republican nomination in 1992 for president.

00:02:43.000 And even he, you know, he doesn't shill like that.

00:02:46.000 So I don't know, a little bit of skepticism there.

00:02:48.000 But with that out of the way, you know, I hope I wasn't punching right too hard on that one.

00:02:53.000 But it's true.

00:02:54.000 It's just bizarre to me.

00:02:55.000 You'd think Breitbart was supposed to be, well, I guess it's not surprising given who Andrew Breitbart was and some of the things that have been said about the founding of Breitbart.

00:03:03.000 But just a little bit of disillusionment on that front.

00:03:07.000 But anyway, our Canadians have really been failing us today.

00:03:12.000 And I'm not going to get into that right away because we got to talk about North Korea. 0.97

00:03:15.000 But that's the other thing I noticed today.

00:03:16.000 We had.

00:03:17.000 Justin Trudeau with another apology.

00:03:19.000 This wasn't, I didn't see this on any news site.

00:03:21.000 It was on Twitter, actually.

00:03:23.000 But Justin Trudeau with another national apology, like the one wasn't good enough. 0.94

00:03:28.000 We got another national apology out of Castro's kid this week, this time about the LGBTQ2. 0.93

00:03:37.000 They added a Q and a 2 onto it. 0.86

00:03:39.000 So another national apology from him.

00:03:42.000 And then some very choice words from Jordan B. Peterson, which I have come to regret.

00:03:47.000 Defending him on this show.

00:03:49.000 And we'll get into why in a moment. 0.85

00:03:50.000 But before we get into the negging of our Leaf friends, of the Leaf Canadian people, I have to talk about North Korea.

00:03:58.000 Very scary stuff, folks. 0.69

00:04:00.000 Very scary.

00:04:01.000 There was another missile test this evening from North Korea.

00:04:05.000 Early reports indicate that this missile was fired in western North Korea from a mobile missile launcher.

00:04:12.000 U.S. officials said that this was an ICBM, judging by the amount of time that it was in the air.

00:04:18.000 It was in the air for about 50 minutes.

00:04:20.000 They judged that the range of this missile is 13,000 miles, an intercontinental ballistic missile.

00:04:28.000 With a range like that, North Korea now has the capability to hit.

00:04:32.000 Every state in the United States with a missile.

00:04:35.000 They say, however, that the range would be reduced with a heavier payload.

00:04:40.000 So, if you put a nuclear weapon on the missile, if you put some kind of a payload on the missile, it'll reduce the range.

00:04:47.000 It might not be as much as 13,000, and therefore, maybe not the entire United States, but that missile would be able to strike everywhere in the country.

00:04:56.000 The only places that would not be in range or within range for North Korea are South America and a few countries in Africa.

00:05:05.000 So, Very scary stuff, needless to say. 0.62

00:05:08.000 And we've seen this escalate.

00:05:09.000 We've seen this.

00:05:10.000 This has been the dominant, I think, international affairs situation that has defined the Trump presidency so far.

00:05:18.000 You know, not seen.

00:05:19.000 You know, this was not a major issue under Clinton.

00:05:22.000 This was not a major issue under Bush.

00:05:23.000 This was not a major issue under Barack Obama.

00:05:26.000 And people might argue, well, you know, the capabilities have gotten better.

00:05:30.000 But it really begs the question, you know, why has this escalated so quickly and gotten so intense?

00:05:37.000 Really, just since President Trump got into office.

00:05:40.000 I mean, it also coincides with Kim Jong un consolidating power and coming to power after his father died, but it's just a little bit suspect that we're seeing this.

00:05:49.000 And, you know, I think regardless of what your feelings are on North Korea or even on the president, I'm glad that we have President Trump dealing with this situation because you know that if Barack Obama was president, we would be ignoring this.

00:06:04.000 We would be ignoring this, or Barack Obama would be.

00:06:09.000 The strategic patience stuff, or would be begging for peace talks.

00:06:13.000 It is almost, I think, providential that we have a solid president in this case.

00:06:17.000 You know, you imagine what would happen if Hillary Clinton were president, and you have the world coming apart everywhere.

00:06:24.000 I mean, you have the world coming apart in Syria, in Yemen, in the Middle East at large, in Northern Africa.

00:06:31.000 You're seeing a lot of violence, a lot of chaos in the South China Sea, in the Korean Peninsula, all kinds of catastrophes going on. 0.81

00:06:39.000 Iran is another episode. 1.00

00:06:42.000 I think it really is a good thing. 1.00

00:06:43.000 I was telling somebody earlier today that last year in November of 2016, or rather October of 2016, I actually went out at about 9 p.m. in the evening to the BU Barnes Noble and bought myself a Bible.

00:06:57.000 Because if you recall, in October of 2016, there were these tensions with Russia where Joe Biden was threatening a retaliation, and we went to DEF CON 3, and very alarming stuff.

00:07:08.000 So I think it is an improvement that we have this guy in office instead of a neocon.

00:07:14.000 Some kind of neoliberal hawk or whatever.

00:07:17.000 But on the subject of North Korea, it is very worrying because what we're seeing is really, and I've said this before, it's this picture where we will not know until it is too late if diplomacy is viable.

00:07:30.000 I mean, that's really the unfortunate part that we're coming to grips with here. 1.00

00:07:33.000 And I've said on the show before, it is justifiable to go to war with North Korea.

00:07:39.000 That doesn't mean I want a war in North Korea.

00:07:41.000 It doesn't mean I think North Korea will strike us if they have a miniaturization capability, they can put the nuke on the missile.

00:07:48.000 It doesn't mean I think it would be a good thing. 0.99

00:07:50.000 It doesn't mean I want war right now, but it would be justifiable, and here's why.

00:07:55.000 You look at the fundamental strategic necessity of these two countries, which have defined these two countries since the end of the Cold War, since the inauguration of this unipolar moment in international affairs, where you have North Korea without a superpower sponsor, without the Soviet Union, without China to back it up, and they are standing there completely vulnerable in the wake of the rise of the United States,

00:08:20.000 unequaled in the history of mankind as a hyperpower, as the preeminent superpower.

00:08:26.000 For the entire globe.

00:08:27.000 I mean, you think of how big the Defense Department is.

00:08:30.000 We have Defense Department organizations for every region on planet Earth.

00:08:36.000 You know, you have the African Command, you have the Middle Eastern Command, I mean, all over the place. 0.61

00:08:40.000 And you're North Korea, you can't even feed your people, and you're coming up against a hyperpower. 0.72

00:08:45.000 Well, the number one strategic interest is you develop nuclear weapons. 0.56

00:08:50.000 You impose a cost on anybody who would want to mess with you, who would want to invade you, who would want to.

00:08:56.000 Throw their weight around as we have in Iraq, as we have in Afghanistan, and many other countries which are seldom talked about.

00:09:03.000 And if you're the United States, what we've seen since the end of the Cold War, as we've moved on from great power adversaries such as Germany or the Soviet Union or others, we look at the problem of weapons of mass destruction, the proliferation of WMDs, the problem of terrorism, of rogue states.

00:09:21.000 And so the number one strategic objective or mission of the United States is to stop these dangerous weapons, which have an outsized effect.

00:09:29.000 Offensive capability from falling into hostile hands.

00:09:33.000 So you see very clearly, I mean, this is not controversial stuff, that the core geostrategic grand strategies of both nations are diametrically opposed to each other.

00:09:45.000 They are mutually exclusive, they cannot exist.

00:09:48.000 This is when war is justifiable.

00:09:50.000 This is why wars happen.

00:09:52.000 You know, you get a lot of these lefties, these peace people, the doves, and I'm a non interventionist, don't get me wrong, but you get people who are ideologically opposed to war.

00:10:03.000 Or metaphysically or metapolitically opposed to war, and they say, you know, why is there conflict, man?

00:10:10.000 Why is there war, man? 0.74

00:10:11.000 What if we got rid of all the religions?

00:10:14.000 Well, war happens very simply because you have these insecurities between different tribes of people, because you have these conflicting interests, whether that be over land or people or money or power or this imbalance of military power. 0.77

00:10:30.000 And so, how do you reconcile a world where North Korea says, We want nuclear weapons, and the United States says nobody but the countries that do have nuclear weapons should be allowed to pursue them.

00:10:44.000 Well, there's no getting around that, unfortunately.

00:10:47.000 I mean, you can try, and there are ways you can get around this.

00:10:51.000 You know, there are things that we can try.

00:10:54.000 I mean, there are workarounds, there's a fix, if you will, that can be pursued. 0.97

00:10:59.000 I mean, we can try our best, and that's what we're doing right now, to choke North Korea economically so that it's like either we'll destroy you economically or we'll destroy you militarily. 0.96

00:11:10.000 But again, we won't know until it's too late whether or not it's worked. 0.91

00:11:15.000 And that's unfortunate because a lot of people would like to see a peaceful resolution.

00:11:20.000 There are no good military options here.

00:11:22.000 I mean, that's the takeaway I think from this episode for people to respect war and for people to respect life and the fragility of the world order. 0.86

00:11:33.000 Because you look at the situation with North Korea where we go in there, and the only way that we're going to prevent. 0.64

00:11:40.000 In any measure of certainty, a nuclear reciprocation by North Korea, that is, we declare war or there's aggression towards us and they launch a nuke at us, is if we have ground forces and they invade and they invade hard and they invade quick. 0.75

00:11:57.000 And even in that circumstance, even if you're trying to get the most certain that you reduce the most amount of casualties by, of course, neutering their nuclear capability or their biological or chemical weapon capability, even then, The artillery power of North Korea against neighboring Seoul, the capital of South Korea, the biological and chemical weapons they have, which we don't know where they are, which we don't know to what extent they are capable of deploying those. 0.85

00:12:25.000 We cannot be sure that they won't, in some measure, attain a nuclear capability, either if they develop their nuclear submarine, or God forbid we don't locate all the nuclear weapons or destroy them in time. 0.78

00:12:37.000 We are looking at a war that, if it happens, and it's looking like it might be inevitable, it might be irreconcilable, no other way other than.

00:12:46.000 Physical force stopping them from doing it with the barrel of a gun, where millions of people are going to die.

00:12:53.000 And, you know, there's just no way around that.

00:12:56.000 And it's very sad and it's very tragic.

00:12:59.000 And, well, I guess we'll see what happens, right?

00:13:02.000 I guess we'll see what happens.

00:13:04.000 But it's just a shame that it has to be like this.

00:13:07.000 And, you know, that the reason that it has to be like this, because it didn't have to be like this 25 years ago, it didn't even have to be like this 10 years ago.

00:13:16.000 It wasn't until very, very recently, as I said before, that.

00:13:20.000 The situation has spiraled out of control to the extent that it did.

00:13:25.000 Kim Jong il was not as wacky, as reckless, and accelerationist as his son, as his successor.

00:13:34.000 It's only been in a very recent span of time that this has been stepped up in terms of the missile technology, the nuclear tests, shooting missiles over Japan.

00:13:45.000 And so this is really the culpability for this is on people like Bill Clinton.

00:13:49.000 The culpability is on people like George W. Bush.

00:13:52.000 And you have to ask yourself why didn't they address it?

00:13:55.000 These issues.

00:13:56.000 You have to ask yourself what kind of a person, what kind of a patriot or a Christian?

00:14:01.000 I know people like their presidents, whether you're a Democrat or Republican.

00:14:05.000 You know, you like your team.

00:14:06.000 You like Bill Clinton or you like George W. Bush.

00:14:09.000 He was a good man, whatever.

00:14:11.000 What kind of a person, because of politics, because of public approval, they don't deal with this obviously imminent threat to the health and safety and lives of every citizen in the country?

00:14:25.000 I mean, There's just, it's criminal negligence.

00:14:29.000 It's just downright criminal irresponsibility on the part of these people.

00:14:33.000 You know, think of George W. Bush who went to war in 2003 against Iraq, where there was no evidence that they were producing weapons of mass destruction, or at least nuclear weapons.

00:14:43.000 They found chemical, but there was no nuclear weapons there.

00:14:47.000 When in the meantime, you had Iran who was caught that same year in 2003 with an illicit nuclear program, or you had North Korea who had a nuclear program, you had Pakistan who had a nuclear program.

00:14:58.000 For 20 years or 10 years, actually, at the time.

00:15:01.000 Israel, who had had a nuclear program for 50 years at the time.

00:15:06.000 And we didn't seem to care so much about those.

00:15:08.000 You got to ask yourself why.

00:15:10.000 Not to get into the conspiracy theories, but why was it that we went after these two countries? 0.51

00:15:14.000 Why was it that we went after Iraq and Afghanistan?

00:15:18.000 Why did we go after Somalia, for that matter? 0.61

00:15:21.000 Why did we go after Libya in 2011?

00:15:24.000 How many Americans even know about that?

00:15:26.000 Why are we going after Yemen now?

00:15:28.000 Can anybody tell me why we're starving to death? 1.00

00:15:32.000 Just all these innocent Arab peasants on the Arabian Peninsula. 1.00

00:15:36.000 Why are we supporting that? 1.00

00:15:37.000 This is the worst humanitarian disaster in years, the worst in the world, and we're bankrolling it, we're supporting it, and why? 1.00

00:15:45.000 You know, why are we not dealing with the North Koreans? 1.00

00:15:47.000 Why didn't we deal with them 20 years ago? 1.00

00:15:50.000 It's just criminal negligence, or it's something else.

00:15:53.000 And even if it is something else, it's still negligence.

00:15:56.000 So it's just very sad that it has to be like this because you look at just how many people are going to lose their lives if this doesn't work out well, and it's a very slim chance that it's going to work out well.

00:16:09.000 And you think, what an irresponsible, what reckless leadership or lack thereof, and millions of people are going to pay the ultimate price for that.

00:16:18.000 It just really weighs on your soul a little bit.

00:16:22.000 You know, because it did not have to be like this.

00:16:26.000 We have been cornered and forced into a situation where it's almost a default position that millions of innocent people are going to die in the worst possible way.

00:16:38.000 I mean, you look at the devastation caused.

00:16:41.000 By a nuclear weapon.

00:16:43.000 People's eyeballs melt out of their faces, their skin peels off, and the ones that don't get completely incinerated, they have horrible side effects with the radiation.

00:16:53.000 Entire cities will be leveled.

00:16:55.000 I mean, if this is the worst case scenario, if people had just done the right thing, if a couple of people in these positions of power had done the right thing by our people and to a greater extent for the good of the world, it just wouldn't have happened.

00:17:14.000 It's a very sad thing. 0.96

00:17:16.000 So that's North Korea. 1.00

00:17:17.000 And that should really, I think, give you pause about life in general. 0.99

00:17:21.000 You know, for me, this was when I really started to grapple with politics in a serious way.

00:17:27.000 I was a high schooler when I got into politics.

00:17:30.000 And when you're a high schooler, nothing's really real, right?

00:17:34.000 I mean, you're in this kind of artificial universe, this construct, right?

00:17:40.000 Within a very self contained closed loop system.

00:17:44.000 And you go home, you don't really have to do much.

00:17:47.000 When I got to college and I thought about what would happen, I thought about how I would fend for myself if there was going to be a nuclear strike on the United States.

00:17:56.000 You know, with all the rhetoric that was going on in 2016, where they were talking about cyber attacks being punished, they were shutting down embassies and DEF CON level was raising.

00:18:07.000 And I really thought to myself, what happens if I'm going to die here?

00:18:11.000 Because, you know, and for what?

00:18:14.000 And whose fault is that?

00:18:15.000 And you really start to grapple with it, you understand just how fragile everything is.

00:18:19.000 And that is what leads you, I think, and that is what leads this movement necessarily into a much more holistic and existential picture where we have to answer those fundamental questions because inevitably these things are going to happen.

00:18:34.000 You know, when you're fighting for something and you're not going to budge on it, there will be martyrs, there will be violence.

00:18:41.000 And if you believe in principles, you have to be willing to sacrifice, you have to be willing to give it up.

00:18:46.000 And that's why it has to get into an existential place. 0.87

00:18:49.000 That's why for a lot of people, the political component alone, the Racialist component alone isn't sufficient because you look at how quickly things can devolve into a violent and messy situation, and that is the case more often than not. 0.64

00:19:05.000 And we need solid people that are prepared for that. 0.63

00:19:07.000 So there's a really good article, and before I move on to the next topic, I will shill for this.

00:19:12.000 There's a really good article about this exact subject by C.S. Lewis.

00:19:18.000 He writes about this anxiety about the nuclear age, which many people were living in after the Manhattan Project was completed.

00:19:26.000 About how do we deal with the fact that, you know, at any minute when you have ICBMs coupled with nuclear weapons, a foreign nation can launch a missile and you're just gone.

00:19:37.000 And isn't that kind of absurd?

00:19:39.000 And he wrote a really good article about it.

00:19:40.000 I encourage everybody to go read it.

00:19:43.000 Brilliant writer, brilliant thinker. 0.99

00:19:44.000 But anyway, that's North Korea.

00:19:46.000 Not much to say that we haven't already said on the subject.

00:19:48.000 I know it's stale.

00:19:49.000 I know we say the same stuff, but it's the same situation.

00:19:53.000 We're just keeping an eye on it.

00:19:54.000 But very interesting as always.

00:19:57.000 And we'll see.

00:19:57.000 The.

00:19:58.000 If we survive this, if we make it out of this, here's some stuff that you're not going to hear anywhere else.

00:20:03.000 This is some very high IQ international affairs posting.

00:20:08.000 What this will mean, the consequences of this going forward, has nothing to do with North Korea.

00:20:14.000 Why this is so important right now and how Trump interacts with North Korea and the precedent he's setting is how it pertains to our relationship with China.

00:20:23.000 That's the way to think about this.

00:20:25.000 Short sighted people, people who are stuck in the weekly cycle, they say this is North Korea.

00:20:30.000 North Korea is forever.

00:20:31.000 This is. 0.94

00:20:32.000 North Korea will be resolved in the next five years. 0.96

00:20:34.000 It won't be around. 1.00

00:20:35.000 This will be expedited soon, probably.

00:20:37.000 And if it's not, it will become irrelevant.

00:20:40.000 Or if it's neutered, it'll play into this.

00:20:42.000 The much broader situation that's going on here that's playing out is the relationship between the United States and China.

00:20:50.000 And this, mark my words, when you're 30 years down the road and you see this, or you're 50 years down the road and you remember what I said and you see what's going on, this will be a litmus test for how the United States will interact with China. 0.78

00:21:06.000 How the United States will cope with the peaceful rise of China as a world power, because that is the prevailing trend of the next 100 years China rising as a cultural, economic, military, and population power in the world, and how the United States will cope with their decreasing role in the world. 0.70

00:21:29.000 You know, the United States will be a power for a very long time, a great power for a very long time. 0.93

00:21:34.000 The population is growing, the economy is the biggest in the world.

00:21:38.000 You just look at the assets, the infrastructure, we're not going away.

00:21:41.000 That said, the supremacy that the United States has enjoyed, I'm talking military, political, et cetera, since the end of World War II and even to a greater extent after the Cold War, is rapidly going away.

00:21:53.000 And it has in the past five years.

00:21:55.000 And that will accelerate over the next 90 years, changing in relation to China and even to India and to some of these other countries.

00:22:04.000 A lot of people talked about Brazil and South Africa and Turkey in a similar breath, but.

00:22:09.000 Those are probably not going to work out.

00:22:10.000 It's really India and China that are on the rise, and that is going to be the thing to watch. 0.96

00:22:15.000 You think it's scary thinking about a war with North Korea? 1.00

00:22:19.000 Think about a war with China. 0.78

00:22:20.000 Think about a war with a billion and a half people.

00:22:23.000 Think about a country that has a GDP that's only a trillion dollars shy of ours. 0.97

00:22:29.000 North Korea, we can strangle. 0.93

00:22:31.000 But if China offers an international finance system that is a viable alternative to ours, we have to worry about many North Koreas and China in addition to that. 0.78

00:22:41.000 I mean, this is a Cold War. 0.92

00:22:42.000 That is emerging with an adversary that is actually formidable.

00:22:46.000 China right now is head and shoulder stronger than the Soviet Union ever was or could have been.

00:22:52.000 And if that doesn't keep you up at night, I don't know what does. 0.94

00:22:55.000 So, North Korea, very scary that we could be nuked any moment, but the real scary thing is China. 0.74

00:23:01.000 Because if we don't handle this right, and odds are historically that we will not handle this well, I mean, this was the same sort of power dynamic between Britain and Germany that led to the two world wars. 0.87

00:23:15.000 It will be apocalyptic.

00:23:17.000 You imagine a conventional or a nuclear war with these two preeminent superpowers and imagine the weapons that will be available in a short amount of time in terms of orbital weapons, space weapons, laser weapons, some of the supersonic weapons they're developing.

00:23:33.000 You look at the missile technology or the plane technology.

00:23:37.000 Very scary stuff.

00:23:37.000 So that's kind of the big brain contextual.

00:23:41.000 You know, if we can introduce some new stuff in there, that's what we should watch for.

00:23:46.000 And Trump, by the way, is doing a masterful job.

00:23:50.000 At setting the tone for this relationship with China because it is cooperative.

00:23:54.000 It is, I think, assertive, but also cooperative.

00:23:58.000 And that's exactly what we need.

00:24:00.000 And a good resource on that is Mearsheimer.

00:24:03.000 Mearsheimer wrote about this in the 1990s in his book, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics.

00:24:09.000 And he forecasts that it's likely there will be a war between the United States and China, but he gives some examples of how we can avert that.

00:24:16.000 And Henry Kissinger talks about this as well in his book, World Order.

00:24:20.000 Highly recommend those reads for my international relations friends.

00:24:24.000 The Tragedy of Great Power Politics by Mearsheimer.

00:24:27.000 He also wrote a great book called The Israel Lobby, we're checking out.

00:24:30.000 And World Order by Henry Kissinger.

00:24:33.000 Also on China, which he wrote.

00:24:35.000 So, some good book recommendations. 0.50

00:24:37.000 But that's North Korea. 0.85

00:24:38.000 We've got to get into our leaf posting. 0.56

00:24:42.000 Have to get into our Canadian friends, our Canadian pals.

00:24:47.000 Very disappointing stuff here.

00:24:49.000 And the first thing I saw, this was on Twitter.

00:24:54.000 National apology from Justin Trudeau.

00:24:57.000 I mean, do these people, you got to imagine, how do these people take this stuff?

00:25:01.000 I mean, really, how do you have it that you have a leader who goes, he tours the country apologizing for your people, your country, your government?

00:25:12.000 I don't know how you elect a person like that.

00:25:15.000 I don't know how you get on with a person like that as the leader of your country.

00:25:19.000 But he went on today before the House of Parliament with a formal apology.

00:25:25.000 To the LGBTQ2 community, which is lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgenders, queers, and the two spirit.

00:25:35.000 The two spirit, that's a Native American thing.

00:25:37.000 You see, when we came over here in 1492 and we brought our oppressive, rigid gender system, whatever, the Indians, the Igloo people, apparently had this two spirit ideology or gender where they were both male and female. 0.87

00:25:54.000 It was this female type. 0.94

00:25:57.000 Configuration with the Native Americans. 1.00

00:25:59.000 Anyway, so he gets before the House of Parliament or the House of Commons, whatever the funky royal government they have up there. 0.98

00:26:07.000 And he gives this very solemn, dramatic apology to our deviant friends.

00:26:13.000 And I picked out some very good, select quotes here that might sound familiar.

00:26:17.000 He says, This is his introduction, big dramatic introduction. 0.92

00:26:21.000 He's telling people, Imagine what it would be like if you were a homosexual. 1.00

00:26:27.000 Imagine what it would be like if you were a sexual deviant. 0.98

00:26:29.000 And he says, Imagine having to fight for the basic rights your peers enjoy. 0.87

00:26:34.000 Hmm.

00:26:35.000 Hmm.

00:26:37.000 Yeah, imagine having to fight for things like a nation of your own, having to fight for, I don't know, loving your own people, loving your own culture.

00:26:45.000 Imagine that.

00:26:46.000 Wouldn't that be such a sick thing for a country to enforce on its people or to impose on its people?

00:26:53.000 Wow.

00:26:54.000 I wonder, I imagine what that's like.

00:26:57.000 I imagine it in a disassociative way because I don't know what that's like.

00:27:02.000 I don't know what that's like to have to fight for the basic rights that are having a country of your own, being proud of who you are, being proud of your family, being proud of your ancestors and culture, not hating yourself.

00:27:15.000 Wouldn't know what that's like.

00:27:16.000 He says, Imagine being criminalized for who you are.

00:27:20.000 Gee, oh, you mean like getting taken off of every website known to mankind?

00:27:25.000 Being taken off of Uber?

00:27:27.000 Being taken off of Twitter?

00:27:29.000 Facebook?

00:27:30.000 Having your domain registrar confiscate your URL?

00:27:34.000 Having all the different web hosting services kick you off the internet?

00:27:40.000 Getting locked up in jail without bail as a political prisoner?

00:27:43.000 Yeah, gee, I. Wouldn't know what that's like.

00:27:46.000 Wouldn't know what it's like to be criminalized as a person, to be arrested or whatever for what you're saying.

00:27:52.000 Quote, the number one job of any government is to keep its citizens safe. 0.98

00:27:57.000 And you know, when Justin Trudeau or people like Barack Obama are bringing in millions of people from the violent third world, they have that in mind, right? 0.99

00:28:06.000 I mean, it's just the hypocrisy. 1.00

00:28:08.000 I just don't know how people are not in the streets right now, knocking over buses and throwing. Molotov cocktails through government offices.

00:28:19.000 Not that I encourage that, but I don't know how that's not happening with the kinds of double standards that you see every day and so obvious.

00:28:26.000 I mean, I don't know how this guy gets up in front of the Commons or Parliament or whatever and he talks about, imagine what it's like essentially to be a white person in America.

00:28:36.000 And it's in, ironically, an apology to the Inuits and to the LGBTQ2 and on and on. 0.61

00:28:45.000 How do people not see this? 0.93

00:28:47.000 How does this not.

00:28:49.000 Does anybody not connect the dots here and say, wait a minute?

00:28:54.000 Just the other week there was the poster scandal with It's Okay to Be White.

00:28:57.000 What about those guys?

00:28:58.000 Aren't they kind of suffering?

00:29:00.000 That's the very thing you're talking about, Justin.

00:29:02.000 And this comes only a couple of weeks, actually, just one week after Justin Trudeau apologizes to the indigenous Inuit people, right? 0.63

00:29:11.000 And it comes down to, as always, it comes down to in these countries that you're not allowed to be for white people.

00:29:18.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:29:19.000 That's the divide.

00:29:20.000 Left or right?

00:29:22.000 Conservative or liberal?

00:29:24.000 Leftist.

00:29:26.000 Tea Party.

00:29:26.000 Conservative.

00:29:27.000 Whatever.

00:29:28.000 Small government.

00:29:29.000 Big government.

00:29:29.000 Statist.

00:29:30.000 Libertarian.

00:29:31.000 Doesn't exist.

00:29:32.000 Doesn't exist.

00:29:33.000 You don't get kicked off of TV for being a conservative.

00:29:36.000 Dr. Phil's a conservative.

00:29:39.000 You don't get kicked off TV because you're a libertarian.

00:29:42.000 What's his name? 0.96

00:29:43.000 The goofy comedian is.

00:29:45.000 What's that guy's name? 0.63

00:29:47.000 Vince Vaughn is a libertarian.

00:29:48.000 Penn Gillette's a libertarian.

00:29:49.000 They're doing just fine.

00:29:51.000 Sam Hyde got taken off of Adult Swim.

00:29:53.000 Was it because he was a conservative?

00:29:55.000 Was it because he was a libertarian or was it because he wasn't on board with the anti white agenda?

00:30:01.000 Couldn't be any clearer if they tried. 0.51

00:30:04.000 It's almost like I'm half betting, joking, of course, that when we figure it out and everybody's like, hey, you hate white people, they're going to be like, yeah, we were trying to tell you.

00:30:17.000 How did you not get the message?

00:30:21.000 Didn't you see the Grammy stuff?

00:30:22.000 Didn't you see the Oscar stuff? 0.85

00:30:23.000 Didn't you see the MTV New Year's resolutions for white people? 0.63

00:30:26.000 That wasn't a giveaway? 0.61

00:30:27.000 Come on.

00:30:29.000 I mean, and they don't even hide it.

00:30:30.000 You go on Twitter after the night of the blue checks and look who was de verified and who wasn't. 0.97

00:30:37.000 I mean, you got Richard Spencer, who's never said anything negative about black people, who's never said, like, I hate, he's never said any sentence like, I don't like black people. 0.95

00:30:48.000 The guy's a white nationalist. 0.67

00:30:49.000 He thinks white people, and what does that even mean, right?

00:30:52.000 He believes that white people are entitled to what every other people in the world have. 0.82

00:30:56.000 If that makes him a white nationalist boogeyman, you know, okay, maybe.

00:31:01.000 He gets de verified because of things that he said off of the platform, just politically dissident ideology. 0.96

00:31:09.000 You have people all over Twitter talking about how they hate white people. 1.00

00:31:13.000 They want to kill white people. 1.00

00:31:14.000 They can't wait for white people to die off. 1.00

00:31:16.000 White people are so stupid. 1.00

00:31:18.000 They keep their blue checks. 1.00

00:31:19.000 They don't get banned.

00:31:20.000 You report them, they don't get suspended.

00:31:23.000 They couldn't be more explicit, more obvious if they tried. 0.98

00:31:27.000 They're telling you on Twitter, I don't like white people. 0.92

00:31:33.000 So that's Justin Trudeau. 1.00

00:31:35.000 What a silly, goofy civilization we live in. 1.00

00:31:40.000 And not. 0.99

00:31:41.000 How do you take us seriously anymore, really?

00:31:43.000 How do you take any of it seriously?

00:31:45.000 How can any of the institutions have authority?

00:31:48.000 You know, I hear people all the time.

00:31:49.000 They say, Nick, you really don't believe what the government says?

00:31:52.000 You really don't believe that academia is a good thing?

00:31:55.000 You really don't believe Hollywood's full of liars, et cetera?

00:31:59.000 Well, how does anybody take any of these institutions seriously when they are just built on this house of cards of contradictions, hypocrisies, just downright injustices? 0.99

00:32:09.000 But Justin Trudeau, what a goofy fellow. 0.96

00:32:13.000 That's him. 0.98

00:32:14.000 He's the last bastion.

00:32:15.000 He is like, he's the anti Trump in every sense of the word.

00:32:20.000 I mean, he's a privileged kind of a guy, but in a different way.

00:32:23.000 He's young.

00:32:24.000 He's this liberal.

00:32:25.000 He's, I mean, that is really, these are the two polls either Trudeau or Merkel.

00:32:29.000 Those are the two polls, I think, in the Western world.

00:32:32.000 But anyway, that's Trudeau.

00:32:34.000 And our last leaf neg here before we get on to your questions is we got our buddy Jordan Peterson.

00:32:42.000 Very disappointing.

00:32:44.000 Very disappointing.

00:32:45.000 I defended Jordan Peterson for a long time.

00:32:47.000 I was a big fan of Jordan Peterson.

00:32:49.000 I watched his content.

00:32:51.000 I said controversial things in this movement about him because people don't like him so much.

00:32:55.000 I stuck my neck out for him and I regret it. 0.99

00:32:59.000 I look like a fool. 0.99

00:33:00.000 He embarrassed me. 1.00

00:33:01.000 He embarrassed me for defending him with his behavior these past weeks.

00:33:06.000 It seems like he built up so much credibility as well, and maybe some saw the writing on the wall more than others, admittedly.

00:33:13.000 But in my eyes, he built up his credibility to a great degree, advocating for things that we wanted that were implicitly in our interest.

00:33:21.000 And it seems like.

00:33:22.000 Just very recently, he's just taken a sledgehammer to it.

00:33:24.000 I don't know if it's the fame.

00:33:26.000 I don't know if it's the money.

00:33:27.000 I don't know what it is.

00:33:29.000 But suddenly, he's felt the need to conform to the system, to fall in line with the rest.

00:33:37.000 And I'll tell you why I feel this way.

00:33:38.000 First, it was the incident at Ryerson University, where he was set to appear on a panel with Faith Goldie that was hosted by this school.

00:33:47.000 For whatever reason, it got rescheduled.

00:33:49.000 And when it was rescheduled, Faith Goldie was disinvited because of her appearance on the Daily Stormer podcast at Charlottesville.

00:33:57.000 Now, Jordan Peterson, who is the free speech zealot, who is the, you know, he tells you, tell the truth or bad things happen, you know, that's his own standard.

00:34:08.000 He attends anyway.

00:34:09.000 Not only does he not put up any protest that they are censoring a journalist, disinviting a journalist because she holds the wrong opinions, not only did he not fight that, he was complicit in the event.

00:34:21.000 He attended the event, he gave a speech.

00:34:23.000 And then when somebody called him on it, he made up this half assed excuse like, Oh, there's associations and it hurts our message.

00:34:32.000 Look, I'm sorry.

00:34:34.000 Unfortunately, whether you agree with that pragmatic angle or not, whether you agree with that nonsense that he said, whether you think Faith Goldie is good or not, his brand, his own standard for moral conduct is to tell the truth, is to have unfettered free exchange of ideas.

00:34:52.000 That's his own standard.

00:34:54.000 You have to hold the man to his own standard.

00:34:57.000 You cannot build your brand saying, tell the truth or genocide happens.

00:35:02.000 Being a free speech zealot, making a big stink over political correctness, and then you attend an event where they censored a journalist because she held the wrong opinions.

00:35:14.000 I wish we could judge him by a more generous standard, but that's what he set up for himself, unfortunately.

00:35:20.000 So there was that, and that put a bad taste in my mouth.

00:35:23.000 Many people said, you know, Nick, give him a chance.

00:35:25.000 He's right about a lot of things.

00:35:27.000 And I agree with that.

00:35:28.000 I agree with him on a lot of things about benefiting the individual, or rather, cultivating.

00:35:35.000 Better individuals.

00:35:36.000 I'm not an individualist, but the fact of the matter is, if you want to build strong families, you have to have strong individuals, and so we should encourage responsibility and accountability and all the rest.

00:35:46.000 I agree with him on that.

00:35:47.000 On religion generally, on mythology.

00:35:49.000 I mean, a lot of these thoughts that he's had, which are to an extent reheated Jung, Nietzsche, Soltz and Nitsen, and only the politically correct Soltz and Nitsen, I agree with that stuff.

00:36:00.000 But when you have somebody who they violate their core principles, And without shame, without apology, I can't trust anybody like that.

00:36:10.000 I don't like anybody like that.

00:36:12.000 He's a smart man, makes a lot of good points, very passionate.

00:36:16.000 I'm sure he, I don't think he's a malicious guy.

00:36:19.000 But when you do, when you go against your fundamental principles, when you break your own standard, I'm out.

00:36:25.000 I'm out.

00:36:26.000 You can't trust a guy like that.

00:36:27.000 That's not the guy you need.

00:36:29.000 We need people of character.

00:36:31.000 We have no shortage of smart people, no shortage of smart people that can give us.

00:36:36.000 They're hot takes and they're interesting, you know.

00:36:38.000 And his book list is George Orwell.

00:36:40.000 Oh, that's really rocking my world.

00:36:42.000 Read Animal Farm by George Orwell.

00:36:45.000 Seventh grade call. 0.93

00:36:47.000 And not to be overzealous in the negging, but it's just really got a sour feeling, okay?

00:36:53.000 Because then he goes on today.

00:36:55.000 It was bad enough with the Faith Goldie thing. 0.99

00:36:57.000 I go out and defend him.

00:36:58.000 And then he turns on people like Faith Goldie and myself.

00:37:01.000 We're not good enough for free speech, I guess.

00:37:04.000 And then he tweets today.

00:37:06.000 Quote, those who have accomplished something as individuals feel no need to be proud of their race.

00:37:12.000 Or rephrased, those who have accomplished nothing as individuals feel compelled to be proud of their race. 1.00

00:37:18.000 So he's basically saying, if you're proud of your race, you're a pathetic loser. 0.98

00:37:24.000 All the people that take pride in their heritage, all the people that take pride in their race, the reason that they do that is because they're insufficient. 0.99

00:37:34.000 It's not good enough for them.

00:37:36.000 They're not.

00:37:37.000 They don't meet their own expectations, so they have to have the race to comfort them.

00:37:41.000 And you hear this all the time.

00:37:44.000 And this kind of logic from this kind of a guy, it's just such a slap in the face where you defend this guy, you think this guy's on your side, and he's going to bear down on us just like the people he's fighting.

00:37:56.000 And people may criticize me for punching right, but I've never countersignaled white identity. 0.66

00:38:01.000 I've never countersignaled saying that we are under attack and we have to stand together because the forces that are against us are too powerful for us to be.

00:38:11.000 For us to be criticizing each other ideologically or politically in this kind of way, in this very disingenuous, dishonest kind of way, and with bad intentions, where he's telling people that the only reason they could take pride in their race is if they haven't accomplished anything.

00:38:28.000 Really, Jordan Peterson?

00:38:29.000 I, without even trying, I can think of all the greatest patriots in history who have done head and shoulders more than writing maps of meaning who take pride in their race.

00:38:40.000 Alexander the Great.

00:38:41.000 Took pride in his race, I'm sure.

00:38:44.000 Do you think it was because he didn't accomplish anything?

00:38:46.000 Julius Caesar, Otto von Bismarck, Napoleon, I mean, are these people all take pride in their countrymen?

00:38:54.000 Are these people who didn't accomplish anything compared to the man who wrote Maps of Meaning?

00:38:59.000 Give me a break.

00:39:00.000 And then Kevin McDonald tweets at him and he says, It's not about pride in one's race.

00:39:04.000 And I like Kevin McDonald.

00:39:06.000 Very humble guy, smart guy.

00:39:08.000 And he takes a real beating from everybody.

00:39:10.000 And I'm just wild about this guy because his approach is like, Yeah, well, those are the facts.

00:39:16.000 I mean, you just can't beat the kind of class that this Kevin McDonald guy has.

00:39:21.000 He says, It's not about pride in one's race. 0.59

00:39:23.000 It's about understanding that all people have a powerful genetic interest in their race and understanding what the demographic trends in all Western countries portend if whites don't begin to act. 0.69

00:39:34.000 To secure a territory, which is fair, which is fair and honest and humble.

00:39:38.000 And I think, compared to what Jordan Peterson is saying, which is disingenuous and kind of offensive and insulting, Kevin McDonald approached it, I think, in a very polite and with class.

00:39:50.000 Jordan Peterson responds There are so many errors in this reply that it's difficult to know where to begin.

00:39:57.000 First, no one has a quote genetic interest in their race.

00:40:01.000 That's not how it works.

00:40:03.000 Second, how do you define white?

00:40:05.000 What color do you think the Iraqis are or the Aryans?

00:40:09.000 Or the Iranians, Aryans, see the connection?

00:40:12.000 I mean, where does this guy get off with the condescension, the pretentiousness, the attitude? 0.99

00:40:19.000 What a turnoff.

00:40:20.000 I mean, the reason I think so many people like Jordan Peterson is because he started out in earnest, he started out humbly.

00:40:27.000 And I think that's why people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, as I did for so long.

00:40:32.000 Because I said, you know what?

00:40:34.000 This guy seems like an honest guy, he seems like a good guy.

00:40:38.000 But when you give me this stuff, just the brazen arrogance, pretentiousness, the condescension, so many errors in this reply, it's difficult to even know where to begin.

00:40:50.000 Does it really merit that?

00:40:52.000 First, I love the list.

00:40:54.000 First off, you know, first off, child, that's not how it works.

00:40:59.000 Like, that's, sorry, that's not really an argument.

00:41:01.000 This is an academic, this is an intellectual.

00:41:03.000 First, no one has a genetic interest in their race.

00:41:06.000 That's not how it works.

00:41:08.000 Um,.

00:41:09.000 Citation, please.

00:41:10.000 You want to elaborate on that one a little bit? 0.97

00:41:14.000 Jordan Peterson, individualism is gay. 1.00

00:41:18.000 That's not how it works. 1.00

00:41:19.000 Like, what?

00:41:21.000 Come on, man.

00:41:23.000 Second, how do you define white? 0.72

00:41:24.000 I love, and here's where I really, here's where you really understand that this guy is a shill or this guy is a merchant, where we get to the classic, the favorite, that race is skin color. 0.56

00:41:37.000 I love this one.

00:41:39.000 What? 1.00

00:41:40.000 You don't want black immigrants? 1.00

00:41:41.000 What? 0.99

00:41:42.000 You don't like people who look different from you? 0.97

00:41:44.000 You don't like them because they got a different color skin than you?

00:41:48.000 Now, let's do a little thought experiment, okay?

00:41:51.000 Does anybody in the entire world, on the entire face of the earth, believe that the only difference between a black man and a white man is the color of their skin?

00:42:03.000 Does anybody believe that?

00:42:05.000 And don't read into that any more than what I'm saying.

00:42:07.000 Think of black people, think of white people, think of black people, you know, think of black people culturally, historically, in everything. 0.62

00:42:14.000 In totality, is the only thing that's different between black and white people that they're a different color? 0.82

00:42:21.000 Look at their physical features. 0.97

00:42:23.000 They have markedly different physical features.

00:42:25.000 You look at even the bone structure of these people, where you identify bodies.

00:42:32.000 DAs identify bodies in investigations based on the structure of their bones.

00:42:37.000 You can tell if they're Asian, if they're black, if they're white.

00:42:40.000 It just goes for all peoples.

00:42:41.000 Does anybody really believe that the only difference between Asians, whites, blacks, etc.?

00:42:48.000 Is that they're different colors. 0.68

00:42:49.000 So, what if I painted my skin black?

00:42:51.000 I would be the same as a black person. 0.88

00:42:53.000 If I get what melanin injections like that one model, and I become, in all intents and purposes, a person whose skin color is black, that I would be a black person. 0.62

00:43:05.000 Does anybody believe that?

00:43:08.000 And I think if we debunk that myth from the start, that would do a lot for us in terms of our argument.

00:43:14.000 But that is just the peak of being disingenuous and dishonest because somebody as smart as Jordan Peterson, who has an IQ, I believe, north of 140, he says, whoa, big brain nibbous stuff.

00:43:26.000 But doesn't want to admit what he knows.

00:43:29.000 Very sad stuff.

00:43:30.000 Not a lot of character.

00:43:33.000 Not a lot of character.

00:43:34.000 So, very unfortunate on Jordan Peterson.

00:43:36.000 Disappointing.

00:43:37.000 I regret sticking my neck out for him.

00:43:39.000 My viewers told me, the commenters told me, you can look back.

00:43:42.000 They said, Nick, don't do it.

00:43:44.000 He's not what he seems. 1.00

00:43:46.000 He's a shekel guy. 1.00

00:43:47.000 He's a merchant guy. 0.98

00:43:48.000 Look who he hangs out with.

00:43:50.000 Look who he makes excuses for.

00:43:54.000 I wanted to believe, but I guess that's my youthful naivete, right?

00:43:58.000 That's my youthful.

00:44:00.000 Illusions about the world.

00:44:02.000 I thought he was pure, but he is not. 0.98

00:44:04.000 And, you know, by the way, at the same time, then he makes excuses for Jewish people, right?

00:44:09.000 Jewish people have a right to Israel.

00:44:11.000 Jewish people have a right to organize.

00:44:14.000 Jewish people can't be criticized.

00:44:17.000 That collective, but everybody else is an individual.

00:44:20.000 Okay.

00:44:21.000 So that's Jordan Peterson.

00:44:23.000 Not a fan anymore.

00:44:24.000 Unfollowed, reported, blocked.

00:44:28.000 We're not wild about him anymore. 0.98

00:44:29.000 But that's JBP.

00:44:30.000 We got to get into our super chats here.

00:44:32.000 Let's see what the people are saying.

00:44:34.000 They're probably glad I finally broke the spell on Jordan Peterson.

00:44:38.000 So let's see what our super chats have here today.

00:44:42.000 Let's see. 0.99

00:44:45.000 Marissa Blythe. 1.00

00:44:47.000 Oh, a lady. 0.95

00:44:48.000 You know, funny about the show, our demographics for the show, you wouldn't believe this. 0.99

00:44:52.000 Maybe you would.

00:44:53.000 The demographics for the show, it's 91% men who watch the show, 9% women.

00:45:00.000 So it's a real sausage fest up in here.

00:45:03.000 You know what it is?

00:45:04.000 I think it has to do a lot with.

00:45:06.000 I would imagine you'd see similar numbers with political podcasts.

00:45:06.000 Politics in general.

00:45:11.000 Because, and it kind of, it's ironic because that vindicates my point.

00:45:14.000 People would say, you know, Nick, you're so sexist, you're so misogynistic for suggesting that politics is a male domain and the people who watch this program are male.

00:45:23.000 Just saying.

00:45:24.000 But we're glad to have you, Marissa.

00:45:26.000 If more women watched the show and took my advice, we'd be doing very well. 1.00

00:45:29.000 So we appreciate some token women coming on. 0.96

00:45:33.000 Not to, I'm unintentionally negging you. 0.79

00:45:36.000 For making a super chat.

00:45:37.000 I'm sorry.

00:45:38.000 Marissa says, Nick, love the show.

00:45:40.000 Glad you enjoy.

00:45:41.000 We love you.

00:45:42.000 As a traditionalist Catholic, what is your take on the legitimacy of post Vatican II popes keep up the good work?

00:45:53.000 So you're referring to the sect that broke away after Vatican II in the tradition of Pope Pius X. You know, this pope and this papacy is not legitimate.

00:46:04.000 This papacy has been infiltrated.

00:46:06.000 This was forewarned by popes before the Second Vatican Council.

00:46:11.000 And I just don't view it as legitimate. 0.68

00:46:14.000 And it's tough to reconcile theologically because Catholics believe that the Roman Pope, the Roman, the bishop, the Archbishop of Rome is the Pope.

00:46:25.000 The Pope is the leader of the faith.

00:46:28.000 And what the Pope says is theologically infallible.

00:46:31.000 This is a common misconception people make.

00:46:33.000 They say the Pope is kissing Africans' feet. 0.99

00:46:36.000 That means the Catholics are cucked. 1.00

00:46:38.000 No, no, no. 0.89

00:46:39.000 The Pope is infallible on matters of doctrine, which is very different than political pronouncements.

00:46:44.000 But.

00:46:46.000 I see the Pope, and it's tough to square the circle, but I see this papacy as illegitimate, not a legitimate successor to St. Peter, not a legitimate successor to the popes in years past, and it's really tough.

00:46:59.000 It puts us in a tricky position.

00:47:01.000 But you look at the history of the Vatican II Council, and some of the things went on very fishy, not legitimate.

00:47:08.000 So that's my take.

00:47:10.000 I like the people that have broken away the, what's his name, Williamson, Bishop Williamson is a very smart man, and others who are in that movement.

00:47:19.000 So we're with those guys, but we appreciate the super chat.

00:47:23.000 Owen says, Nick, Nick, you live in the same city as Wrigley and went to school walking distance from Fenway.

00:47:31.000 Two landmarks of American tradition.

00:47:34.000 How many games have you been to?

00:47:37.000 Zero.

00:47:38.000 In my lifetime, I've been to a game at Fenway when I went on vacation to Boston many years ago.

00:47:45.000 Wrigley, I've been to a couple of games.

00:47:46.000 I've been to a couple of games at U.S. Cellular Park.

00:47:49.000 There is no bigger and no more relatable example, I think, of the problem with unfettered neoliberalism, not capitalism, neoliberalism, than the White Sox Stadium.

00:48:02.000 Now it's guaranteed rate park, I believe.

00:48:05.000 I mean, does that just not illustrate the stark difference between what a conservative is and what a neoliberal is?

00:48:12.000 Where you have on the north side of Chicago, Wrigley Park, home of the Cubs.

00:48:17.000 And we love the Cubbies, we love Wrigley Field.

00:48:20.000 It's beautiful.

00:48:21.000 It has the old scoreboard.

00:48:22.000 It's rich in tradition and history, and it's never changed.

00:48:26.000 And then you got U.S. Cellular Park.

00:48:28.000 You got Guaranteed Loan Park for the White Sox in the South Side. 0.99

00:48:34.000 And it's a shitty park. 0.98

00:48:35.000 Excuse my language. 1.00

00:48:36.000 It's a bad park.

00:48:38.000 Nobody goes to those games.

00:48:40.000 They don't like the name of the stadium.

00:48:42.000 The Jumbotron, it's covered with advertisements and all the rest.

00:48:45.000 There's no better example than like the Roger Scruton types of conservatives who love their country, want it to remain the same in the ways that matter. 0.91

00:48:54.000 And these damn small government merchant shills who just want advertisements everywhere and they just want the money to circulate at a higher rate. 0.95

00:49:02.000 They care about the velocity of currency being moved and not the things that matter. 0.99

00:49:06.000 So, anyway, been to a couple of games at Wrigley, been to a couple of games at US Cellular, and I've been to one game at Fenway.

00:49:14.000 The thing is with Fenway, I don't care.

00:49:19.000 The thing is, I don't watch sports.

00:49:21.000 I don't care about baseball.

00:49:23.000 It's just not my thing.

00:49:24.000 You know, I know it's a big American tradition.

00:49:27.000 I will never counter signal baseball.

00:49:28.000 I think baseball is one of the important ones. 1.00

00:49:30.000 I think some of these commentators get a little stupid about it. 0.96

00:49:34.000 You know, like George Will and Charles Cronhammer, the way they talk about baseball, like it's, I don't know, it's a little bit goofy for me. 0.98

00:49:42.000 I'm sorry for the baseball lovers out there.

00:49:43.000 It's just not my cup of tea.

00:49:45.000 The way people talk about it, it's like this religious experience for people.

00:49:49.000 It's funny to me because, and here's why it's offensive to me George Will will write a column about the beauty of baseball and the dirt and the Home plate and the crunch of the wooden bat and the cheer of the crowd and the skills and what a beautiful game.

00:50:03.000 And then he's willing to throw his own people under the bus for Hispanic immigrants.

00:50:08.000 Like, yeah, okay, I would get it if you were saying baseball is great because it's connected to our people and our ancestors and our country, but it seems like these people romanticize and care more about the intricacies and the beauty of baseball than they do their own children, their own parents, their own land. 0.92

00:50:25.000 Give me a break.

00:50:26.000 So, baseball was never my forte, never a fan.

00:50:29.000 And God knows, rough childhood growing up in the baseball town.

00:50:34.000 Motor skills were not fine, let's say.

00:50:37.000 Athleticism was not there.

00:50:38.000 Very difficult for young Nicholas.

00:50:41.000 But, yeah, eternal grudge against the baseball.

00:50:45.000 Empress Finest says, I know you don't like, quote, having people on to just talk, but consider having Mouthy Buddha or Braving Ruin or someone like that.

00:50:57.000 Should do shows with someone.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, Braving Ruin invited me onto his channel a little while ago.

00:51:03.000 I forget what happened to that.

00:51:04.000 I think we just stopped talking, actually.

00:51:07.000 But I'll look into it.

00:51:08.000 The problem is with inviting people on the show, I like guests.

00:51:12.000 It's just, I like to hear myself talk more than anything else.

00:51:12.000 To come on.

00:51:16.000 Some of the guests we get on, and it's just difficult because it's like we're trying to do a business, we're trying to get views, we're trying for people to watch the show.

00:51:25.000 And some of the people that you get on, you noticed even in the call in shows, people come on the show, and sometimes it has a tendency to groan on a little bit.

00:51:35.000 But we'll see.

00:51:36.000 We'll look into it.

00:51:37.000 Jumping Jack Flash says, Wolf is replacing Eli.

00:51:41.000 You must be happy about that, huh?

00:51:43.000 Well, you know, Eli was a good fella.

00:51:45.000 Eli was a good man, really a solid guy.

00:51:48.000 And I've talked to him on the phone before, and he's just a really solid guy.

00:51:54.000 I was kind of surprised about that because originally I pegged Eli as kind of like got his head up his butt with the rest of these guys, to be frank.

00:52:03.000 That was my initial impression.

00:52:05.000 But as I got to know him and as I talked to him a lot more, I found out he's actually a really solid guy.

00:52:10.000 He's actually, I think he cares about the movement, he cares about the objectives.

00:52:16.000 And I really misjudged him from the get go, I have to say.

00:52:20.000 So I like Eli a lot.

00:52:22.000 With regards to our friend Reinhard Wolf or Patrick Casey, I guess is his name, well, you know, I wish him the best of luck with his little organization and little guy, little organization.

00:52:33.000 We wish him the best.

00:52:34.000 Really, we do.

00:52:36.000 Cheers to Reinhard Wolf, right?

00:52:36.000 Cheers.

00:52:39.000 Crashed Pelican, I would not go to war with North Korea. 0.76

00:52:43.000 I think they are a deep state meme. 0.74

00:52:46.000 Okay, that's one take.

00:52:50.000 I don't know how you, maybe that's the QAnon stuff from Paul.

00:52:55.000 North Korea would F up Japan and South Korea, and Russia and China would go to war with the U.S.

00:53:00.000 We need to up diplomacy.

00:53:01.000 Look, this is very cartoonish, okay? 0.75

00:53:03.000 You have to have a realistic vision of foreign affairs where North Korea has a nuclear arsenal. 0.76

00:53:13.000 What will happen in a short order, what will happen in short order is they will miniaturize their nuclear weapons, put them on ICBMs, and what that will entail is they will have the capability. 0.87

00:53:23.000 To strike the United States with nuclear weapons.

00:53:25.000 This sounds like I'm saying things everybody already knows, but think of it this way.

00:53:30.000 Maybe they don't strike us intentionally.

00:53:33.000 Maybe it doesn't happen for 10 years.

00:53:35.000 But what happens if this regime collapses?

00:53:39.000 Who are the nuclear missiles?

00:53:40.000 Who's going to take control of that arsenal?

00:53:43.000 What happens if this regime collapses and Kim Jong un fears for his life and he thinks that his life is in jeopardy and he has his finger on the button?

00:53:52.000 I mean, you just can't account for these potentialities.

00:53:55.000 The question must be asked. 0.78

00:53:57.000 Is it an acceptable situation that North Korea is in a position, either now or in five years or in 10 years, that they could wipe out the United States, that they could level the city that you live in?

00:54:12.000 I don't think that's an acceptable strategic position for us to be in, unfortunately.

00:54:16.000 The alternative is missile defense, which would completely destroy mutually assured destruction.

00:54:21.000 That would be cataclysmic, that would overturn the order that's prevailed since World War II, or war.

00:54:29.000 But this middle option, where we can ignore it and say it's a meme, it's a neocon meme. 0.51

00:54:35.000 North Korea pointing missiles at us and threatening to blow us up is a meme.

00:54:39.000 A highly unstable regime that will not last longer than five years economically has its missiles pointed at us.

00:54:46.000 That can't be taken seriously.

00:54:49.000 No, it has to be taken seriously.

00:54:53.000 And I don't know.

00:54:54.000 I don't know about that QAnon stuff.

00:54:56.000 Somebody on poll alleges that North Korea is run by the CIA.

00:55:00.000 I haven't seen any evidence for that.

00:55:02.000 So I'm hard pressed to use that as my operating paradigm there.

00:55:08.000 So.

00:55:09.000 You know, again, it's the fundamental strategic objectives that are in conflict here.

00:55:14.000 Maybe some people think that's an acceptable risk.

00:55:17.000 I don't think that's acceptable.

00:55:18.000 Again, it's not, I'm not saying Kim Jong un will launch it against us.

00:55:21.000 And I clarified that in the North Korea debate that we had a month ago.

00:55:25.000 I don't even think Kim Jong un would use it against us.

00:55:27.000 He hasn't used it against us so far.

00:55:31.000 I don't think he would use it against us.

00:55:33.000 But there's a non zero chance that he would.

00:55:36.000 There is a high probability that he will not be in power soon.

00:55:40.000 Either because of succession or because of coup or because of revolution.

00:55:44.000 Tremendously unstable country in charge of the nuclear arsenal.

00:55:48.000 I don't think that's a good precedent to start.

00:55:48.000 I don't trust it.

00:55:51.000 You know, because you have North Korea, and maybe you can tolerate that crazy risk, but then think of the precedent it sets. 0.99

00:55:58.000 What about Iran? 0.85

00:55:59.000 What stops Iran from getting a nuclear arsenal? 0.51

00:56:01.000 They see that the United States was too weak and too feckless to challenge North Korea. 0.77

00:56:06.000 Now they're going to develop a nuclear arsenal. 0.62

00:56:08.000 And then the probability that something goes awry and a nuclear missile gets launched goes up. 0.63

00:56:14.000 And again, I'm less afraid of Iran than I am of North Korea, but still a non zero chance that a nuclear weapon gets deployed.

00:56:20.000 And then I don't know, maybe Saudi Arabia wants to balance.

00:56:23.000 And then maybe Qatar wants to balance.

00:56:24.000 And then Turkey and then Egypt.

00:56:26.000 And then maybe South Africa wants to.

00:56:28.000 And then maybe, and on and on and on.

00:56:30.000 And the percentage, the probability that a nuclear weapon gets used and therefore that nuclear war is initiated goes up and up and up. 0.86

00:56:39.000 You know, people use the counter argument well, Pakistan has nuclear weapons. 0.97

00:56:43.000 Okay, we want less Pakistan's, not more. 1.00

00:56:47.000 So. 1.00

00:56:49.000 So that's my thing on that.

00:56:51.000 Diplomacy only goes so far, unfortunately.

00:56:53.000 You cannot convince people to give up their fundamental interests, but we'll see if we can work a way around that.

00:56:59.000 David Bowman says Hillary, uranium one, Russia, Iran, North Korea.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, no, Hillary Clinton is responsible for this.

00:57:06.000 You think of how these countries got in control of uranium.

00:57:10.000 Uranium is not easy to come by, folks.

00:57:12.000 It's very rare, very difficult to mine.

00:57:15.000 It is not an easy thing to acquire a nuclear arsenal.

00:57:19.000 And you know what?

00:57:20.000 Actually, a big part of why. 0.99

00:57:23.000 Nuclear technology has been proliferated because of the Israelis, actually. 0.80

00:57:27.000 The Israelis really loosened some of the procedures around Europe and the United States. 0.89

00:57:32.000 I mean, that's a big part of it.

00:57:34.000 So it's not an easy thing to come by.

00:57:36.000 They had to have had help.

00:57:38.000 You don't get highly enriched uranium from just digging around.

00:57:43.000 You're not digging your backyard and, look, I found highly enriched uranium.

00:57:47.000 You don't accidentally build a highly sophisticated nuclear centrifuge where you can enrich uranium.

00:57:53.000 And on and on and on.

00:57:55.000 You know, you think of the resources expended for the United States, the most advanced country in the history of the world, to develop the nuclear bomb. 0.96

00:58:02.000 And these third world poor countries that don't even have their girls in schools are building centrifuges and reactors and processing plants. 0.89

00:58:12.000 They had to have had help. 0.74

00:58:14.000 And I have no doubt that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were complicit in it, or worse, maybe it was intentional.

00:58:20.000 So we'll see.

00:58:22.000 Jumping Jack Flash.

00:58:23.000 JP only has a 140 IQ.

00:58:26.000 He can't even watch this show.

00:58:28.000 It's true, yeah.

00:58:29.000 He can't even watch the next.

00:58:31.000 I mean, look, he's a smart guy.

00:58:33.000 But too often, I think people conflate the intelligence with wisdom.

00:58:39.000 Wisdom is a very different thing from intelligence.

00:58:41.000 You see, a lot of intelligent people in this world, lots of smart people in this world, but people who don't have intuition, who don't have perspective.

00:58:51.000 And that is so much more immensely valuable, in my opinion.

00:58:56.000 Like, when I go into politics, when I go into a subject, I don't go into it with this.

00:59:02.000 High IQ, reasoned, big brain, analytical approach, as some people may purport to do.

00:59:08.000 I don't go about it with the scientific method.

00:59:11.000 My approach is largely based on intuition, largely based on a perspective, based on a common sense, an unconscious kind of prejudice.

00:59:22.000 And I think that's natural and I think it's preferable.

00:59:26.000 And that's a big difference I think you see with a lot of these centrists, liberals in general, is this divorce between.

00:59:33.000 This intelligence where people get really caught up in their sophisticated ideas and they lose track of really the simplicity of these timeless things which we know to be true.

00:59:43.000 And JBP is a radical.

00:59:45.000 I mean, the guy's an individualist.

00:59:46.000 That's a radical position.

00:59:48.000 So disappointing.

00:59:52.000 Saxon Runes, do you think white people saying the N word is a horrible thing?

00:59:56.000 No. 1.00

00:59:56.000 And I think it's actually a good thing. 1.00

00:59:58.000 You want to know why?

00:59:58.000 It's because what they have in effect created, and I'm talking about the media and the popular culture, is a way.

01:00:07.000 To subordinate whites as second class citizens.

01:00:10.000 The N word is not about the word.

01:00:12.000 The N word is not about slavery.

01:00:15.000 It's not about any of that. 1.00

01:00:16.000 What the N word is about is so that the media, the people that run media, can say, no, no, not for you, Whitey. 0.99

01:00:23.000 What were you going to say? 0.99

01:00:25.000 Were you going to say what I thought you were going to say?

01:00:27.000 Oh, yeah, no, I didn't think so. 0.96

01:00:29.000 That's what the purpose of the N word is for it's to humiliate white people, it's to subjugate white people. 0.91

01:00:35.000 That may sound like hokey stuff, but really, I mean, think of it. 0.90

01:00:39.000 We're not even allowed to say that word in an academic context.

01:00:42.000 Context, an academic context, not even in a scholastic context.

01:00:47.000 You can't even, I remember in my high school English class, we were reading Tom Sawyer.

01:00:50.000 Everybody's gasping when people are reading the N word in ancient literature, ancient, but hundred year old literature.

01:00:58.000 It's about, you cannot say this.

01:01:01.000 Who do you think you are?

01:01:03.000 Don't you know what you did?

01:01:05.000 Who do you think you are going around saying words?

01:01:08.000 And I don't use it personally in dialogue or in conversation because I think it's generally crass.

01:01:13.000 I'm generally against a lot of the vulgarity.

01:01:16.000 You know, when people use the racial slurs, you know, regardless of what your political leanings are, it's just unprofessional.

01:01:22.000 It's just a little juvenile.

01:01:24.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:01:25.000 You go into any political organization and they're not throwing around these words.

01:01:30.000 There's just a certain level of professionalism and maturity, I think, that you get away from that.

01:01:36.000 And I understand.

01:01:37.000 But by the same token, I understand why people say these things.

01:01:40.000 Because when you say these things, it is an act of rebellion. 0.98

01:01:43.000 Because we are told every day, you're not allowed to say this, Whitey. 0.68

01:01:47.000 You're not allowed to say these words. 0.79

01:01:49.000 And so I endorse it in the sense that it is free speech and it is a rebellion against the established order.

01:01:56.000 But I mean, if that wasn't going on, would I use it?

01:01:59.000 Would I employ it?

01:02:01.000 I just think generally the curses are to be avoided.

01:02:01.000 No.

01:02:04.000 Sometimes you let one slip, you know what happens, but not good praxis.

01:02:11.000 And we got Crashed Pelican here. 0.75

01:02:14.000 Fair enough, but I don't see a way to even fight a war against North Korea without joined diplomacy.

01:02:20.000 Diplomacy in the region.

01:02:21.000 Maybe do a group chat on this topic.

01:02:23.000 Yeah, we could talk about it in the Discord later tonight if you'd like, in the serious political channel.

01:02:30.000 And yet, you know, diplomacy will be necessary, of course.

01:02:33.000 But again, you have an irreconcilable difference.

01:02:38.000 There's no diplomacy that's happening, but like I said earlier, you won't know it's worked until either it's too late or it has worked.

01:02:45.000 Because you can see this in two ways either North Korea is stalling and they're using the United States' unwillingness to go to war and their willingness to engage in diplomacy to stall them from engaging you so that you have more time to build up your nuclear.

01:03:00.000 And defensive capabilities, or North Korea really is looking for an out.

01:03:04.000 But again, we will know the day that they declare they have an ICBM with a nuclear tipped missile capable of reaching us, or they say, you know what, we're announcing our nuclear program. 0.53

01:03:14.000 But we won't know until then.

01:03:16.000 That's why I say that the cautious approach is justified.

01:03:21.000 Justified, but hopefully diplomacy works.

01:03:25.000 But those are all our super chats here.

01:03:28.000 Looks like those are the super chats.

01:03:30.000 So it's going to.

01:03:31.000 It's going to be a night for us.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - November 28, 2017

Jordan Peterson Disappoints Everyone | America First Ep. 59

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