In this episode of America First, host Nicholas J. Fuentes and co-host Alex Blumberg discuss a new article in the alt-light written by Milo Yiannopoulos about a scandal involving Lauren Southern and her two gay producers, and their alleged involvement with a group called "Hope Not Hate." They discuss the implications of the article, as well as what they have to say about it, and how it impacts the right wing of the conservative movement. Plus, they answer a few burning questions that have haunted civilization since the beginning of time, including: What are the burning questions we should be asking? And why are we so obsessed with mass migration? And why does it seem to be the only redeeming thing that seems to be going on in the world right now? And is it because we love mass migration, or are we just tired of it? And what else is there to be said about it than mass migration than that it's a problem? And that it needs to stop? And that we should all of us to have a conversation about it. and that it s a problem, not a solution or at least a fix to it if it s not working yet again, and that s what we're all about? . We're back, and we re back! Welcome back to America First! , and welcome back to another great week of content! ! - Cheers, Cheers! - N.J. - Your Host, N. J. Fentes, Nicky . . . and Big Mac , Big Mac, Big Mac and Big Socks, Big S. and much more! Cheers. , Cheers!! -- - - Big Mac! -- NICKY NICKIE CHECK OUT OUR SONGS, CHEERS! CHEEKS, CHEERING, CHEEK CHEEKYLLY, MADELLA, AND MUCH MORE! (featuring: ) ... FOLLOWING , CHEEEEEK, CRYPT, CHIEK, CHOLLY AND KELLY, GOOGEEK, COYLEE, SWEET, CRUISE, AND PODCASTING, DADDY, COURSES, AND JAY & JAY, BABY!
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00:18:15.000We'll be looking at a big piece that dropped in Dangerous.com by Miley Yiannopoulos, who, you know, we're not on great terms with, but he wrote a pretty long article about some things that are going on in the alt-light.
00:18:28.000Now normally we have problems with the alt-right, lately we've been having problems with the alt-right, but a big piece dropped today, like I said, in Dangerous.com, talking about Lauren Southern, or better known as her real name, Lauren Simonson's two producers.
00:18:44.000Her two homosexual producers, who are partners, and apparently, detailed in, it must have been a 200-page article, alright, I mean it's like a novel that was written, but detailed in this article are all sorts of claims that these two producers have basically been sabotaging the right-wing scene for about two years.
00:19:06.000And this comes in the form of financial fraud, aiding and abetting our enemies in the form of an NGO called Hope Not Hate, among many, many other shady dealings.
00:19:17.000And she'll be talking about the article.
00:19:18.000I'm going to give you the reader's digest, okay?
00:21:58.000We'll be talking about the tariff deal with Mexico.
00:22:03.000You know, they always find a way to disappoint.
00:22:05.000We talked about this last week and also the week before.
00:22:09.000I think it was not last Friday but the Friday before we talked about President Trump's threat of the tariffs.
00:22:16.000He tweeted out, or maybe it was a Thursday,
00:22:19.000He tweeted out that he was going to put a 5% tariff on all goods coming into America from Mexico on June 10th.
00:22:27.000Well, it's June 10th, and there's no tariffs.
00:22:30.000Now, they say that they reached a deal on Friday.
00:22:33.000The deadline for that threat was Friday.
00:22:35.000Even though Friday was not June 10th, he had to have signed an order authorizing the tariffs that would have went into effect, should have went into effect on Monday, but they say that they reached a deal with the Mexican government.
00:23:09.000We find out today that that deal seems like a bunch of bull.
00:23:13.000Seems like all the things that we talked about in the deal last week, it's either had already been agreed to, isn't exactly what they said it was, there's disagreement about what they promise now, and we'll get into all of that.
00:23:26.000But leave it to this administration to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
00:23:30.000I have to tell you, because on Thursday when we last spoke about this,
00:23:37.000Maybe my skepticism, my cynicism, maybe I was wrong about all that.
00:23:43.000Because you remember initially I said, after tariffs were threatened last month and countless times before that and never followed through on, I have no conviction.
00:23:54.000I have, I'm not encouraged or optimistic.
00:24:15.000It seems like Mexico has agreed to expand the presence of national guards there.
00:24:19.000There's something about buying agricultural products.
00:24:22.000It seems like Trump has been able to push them to a good deal with the threat of tariffs.
00:24:27.000We find out three days later not all it's cracked up to be.
00:24:30.000So we'll get into that and then we'll also be talking about this new document from the Vatican which is actually nice to see on gender and perfect timing as well.
00:24:40.000I think it shows that the Catholic faith is still the only faith
00:24:44.000It's the only one that's truly fighting globalism.
00:24:47.000It's the only one that we can seek refuge in.
00:24:50.000I know there's going to be some people that are going to say, Oh, but Pope Francis, Pope Francis, he kissed the feet of that Sudanese resistance leader and the migrants and this kind of thing.
00:25:00.000But we'll talk about this new document that was published in the middle of Pride Month.
00:25:11.000And it should be a pretty packed show.
00:25:13.000But before we get into the news, I do have to tell you a little update.
00:25:16.000I just finished uploading and posting a brand new premium show.
00:25:21.000So for all my premium members, there's a brand new two-hour double feature show available on the website nicholasjfuentes.com
00:25:30.000Where we talk about the National Conservatism Conference, that's what the bulk of the show is about, is about this new conference that, I think we've gotten into this a little bit in the Super Chats last week, but this new conference that was announced by Yoram Hazony and David Braug is the other guy who's involved with this, and they're putting on the National Conservatism Conference where they've got all kinds of great speakers, it's taking place in July,
00:25:57.000In this episode I took a look, I peeled back the layers at who exactly is involved in this, where the money's coming from, who they're associated with, what the game is here, because there is a game being played.
00:26:10.000There's definitely something that they're not telling you about the conference.
00:26:14.000So I went into that in great detail and then I also went into
00:26:18.000The New York Times article that came out over the weekend about this Caleb Cain character.
00:26:23.000It actually ended up being pretty serendipitous because we had covered Caleb Cain's initial video where he said, I was in the alt-right and now I'm leaving and condemning the far-right and all this.
00:26:35.000We had covered that video on the previous premium show even though it was like a few months after the video had been published.
00:26:41.000And now this weekend we had the New York Times article about that guy released.
00:26:45.000So we went into that article, we looked at how many times it contradicted itself.
00:26:59.000He got sucked into the far-right YouTube scene and, you know, the usual story that we hear about this.
00:27:05.000And there's one part in the article where they say how ContraPoints and people like Stephen Bonnell and what they're calling Bread Twitter or Bread YouTube or something, this like left-wing response to the alt-right and far-right YouTube presence is like, it's still fledgling.
00:28:49.000We canceled a little bit late on Friday, but like I said, I think
00:28:54.000You know, right when I started this show, my voice was just, like, gone on Friday, you know?
00:28:58.000Usually when I say I'm sick, it's like I'm throwing up, it's like I had a 10-item meal from Wendy's at 4am and I'm, like, you know, dying on the couch or something.
00:29:08.000But on Friday, I legitimately, like, couldn't talk without coughing and all this.
00:29:12.000So I just said I'll spare the audience.
00:30:14.000I'm about to cover all the important details.
00:30:16.000Really, it is sufficient to read the first three to four paragraphs, which is what we're about to do.
00:30:22.000But I have to tell you, I opened up my Twitter today.
00:30:24.000I opened up my phone, and I'm checking all my notifications, and I start reading this thing, and I'm like, have I been reading this thing for my whole life?
00:30:34.000Is it like in 2001 A Space Odyssey, and now I turn, and I'm at the foot of the bed, and then I turn, and then I'm in the bed, and I'm a thousand years old?
00:30:41.000Because I feel like I've been reading this thing
00:31:12.000Rebel Media is like a Canadian right-wing internet outlet, internet publication, and she was part of this initial crop of talent on The Rebel, which included, it was like her, it was Gavin McInnes, it was a few other people, Faith Goldie, friend of the show, you know, she was on there.
00:31:28.000She was part of that initial that initial class I guess you could call it on rebel of early talent that have since gone on to do better things and she moved from being more of a creator like Faith Goldie and like myself more of a conventional content creator in the past couple of years to doing these documentaries and since she took a break to do the documentaries from her normal vlogging and you know political type content or college campus speaking and
00:31:55.000She hired these two homosexual guys, also from The Rebel, named Kalen Robertson and his partner, whose name is George Lulin or something.
00:32:25.000They do work for InfoWars and all these other people.
00:32:29.000And we look back now, two years later, at all these leaked emails, text messages, documents, invoices, testimony from people involved, interviews, phone calls, all kinds of copious evidence that has been gathered.
00:33:34.000So the article, Say Farewell to the Klepto Queens of the British Far Right, sub-headline reads, Two gay video producers stole tens of thousands of dollars from Tommy Robinson to fund shopping sprees, lavish dinners, and champagne-fueled parties in London's most expensive zip codes, say a string of witnesses.
00:33:52.000They endangered conservative celebrities by leaking security information to Antifa,
00:33:57.000So pretty lengthy, but I'll read you, like I said, the first few paragraphs here of this expose.
00:34:15.000If you've ever donated to Tommy Robinson, the British free speech and anti-Islamist activist dubbed the backbone of Britain by Steve Bannon, there's a fair chance your money didn't end up paying for his tour bus or security guards, but was instead diverted to pay for champagne-fueled gay soirees.
00:34:45.000More than a dozen former co-workers, friends, and acquaintances say Kaitlin Robertson and George Lulanjohn bragged to them about these and other betrayals, thefts, frauds, and sabotages, including a secret years-long collaboration with a George Soros-funded far-left activist group that endangered the lives of Gavin McInnes, this reporter, so that's Milo, and Tommy Robinson himself.
00:35:08.000Leaked documents revealed here for the first time confirm many of the claims.
00:35:13.000This is the last part I'll read from the article.
00:35:16.000It says, we found that the pair stole Bitcoin worth $20,000 from Tommy Robinson while the activist was in jail to fund their jet-set lifestyle, booked a luxury Airbnb and bought six bottles of expensive champagne on Tommy Robinson's wife's credit card, swapped camera equipment worth thousands of dollars for secondhand models they found on eBay, worked with Hope Not Hate, an Antifa-affiliated far-left organization for years,
00:35:42.000Defrauded Alex Jones with inflated expense claims, risked the life of Tommy Robinson by sharing his location with Hope Not Hate, risked the life of Gavin McGinnis by sharing his travel itinerary with the same group, circulated a fake email leak about Miley Yiannopoulos doxing his husband while being paid by Yiannopoulos' tour operator for PR work, defrauded Lauren Southern with inflated invoices while being paid by her to produce a documentary,
00:36:08.000Defrauded rental companies by failing to return equipment and returning inferior models and broken units.
00:36:14.000Made a fake rape claim against a far-left activist.
00:36:17.000Bragged about having TV shows canceled with bogus suicide threats.
00:36:20.000Doctored their clients videos to embarrass them.
00:36:23.000Gloated about their exploits while showering far-left activists with gifts, food, and drinks at London's most expensive hotels.
00:36:30.000So it's a hefty... that's quite the rap sheet.
00:36:31.000A little bit embellished, I think, in some areas, but basically I think the claims that we can, I think, narrow down and
00:36:53.000You know, we can sort of distill this into something manageable.
00:36:58.000Basically, it's a broad record of financial fraud, which we'll get into some of the details there, endangering the lives of people with this relationship with this organization called Hope Not Hate.
00:37:08.000And then the last act, which seems to be when they were called on these two broad crimes, these two categories, they then reached out to journalists and claimed that they had been a part of the far-right and were radicalized.
00:37:21.000But now I've been de-radicalized and would like to tell their story!
00:37:25.000So it's just like the Caleb Cain article I talked about on the premium show and at the top of the show.
00:37:29.000So these are really the three categories here and basically it is no surprise for people that have been watching this show, this program for a long time, that these individuals would do these crimes.
00:37:41.000You know the first category is the financial fraud which is basically just a lot of petty stuff.
00:38:03.000You know, and this was actually documented when they were working for the rebel with Ezra Levant, where they were sent over to London, and they would send over these frantic requests for money.
00:38:16.000And so Ezra Levant would, you know, wire over the money, $200, $300, $1,000.
00:38:21.000You've got this issue with the invoicing, where they, working with Alex Jones or Lauren Southern, would inflate the costs incurred while they're producing things, and that's in the form of camera equipment.
00:38:32.000You know, they'll say that they're buying something off of Tommy Robbins' Amazon Wishlist, which might be an expensive camera.
00:38:39.000They get the camera, they sell the camera, buy a refurbished cheaper one, pocket the difference, you know, this kind of stuff.
00:38:46.000And what they're doing, people are finding, is pretty unfortunate because
00:38:50.000Not only are they just outright stealing the money from, you know, the conservatives and their donors and all the gullible idiots who are throwing their money at this kind of stuff, but they're spending it on degeneracy, they're spending it on alcohol, they're spending it on hotels, this lavish lifestyle, and one that includes far-left people who are their enemies, our enemies, the enemies of the people that fronted the money, you know?
00:40:07.000They have this relationship with Hope Not Hate where they're friends with them, friendly, they're having dinners, they're having lunches, they're giving intelligence to them about itinerary information, travel information, security detail type information, and to me that's far more nefarious, far more malicious, actually putting people in harm's way, jeopardizing them, and who knows how far that goes.
00:40:31.000I've heard other rumors that there's blackmail going on that Hope Not Hate had blackmail on them and so they had blackmail on Tommy and on Lauren and that's why they're in on it and so on and now then the I guess the ultimate crime is this last-ditch thing where they say in order to get out of this you know being nailed for these different claims they're trying to reach out to journalists
00:41:08.000You know, I know a lot of people like the journalistic type stuff where they're sifting through documents and names and dates and all this stuff.
00:41:15.000I find it basically completely uninteresting, the minutia.
00:41:18.000This is why I'm reading the article and I want to blow my brains out because it's 10,000 words of, well, you know, he said this and she said that and, you know, they claimed it was $100 in there.
00:41:28.000I don't really care about all the details.
00:41:31.000But there are some very, very important lessons.
00:41:34.000Which are pertinent, which are relevant for our purposes.
00:41:38.000So that's why we're talking about this.
00:41:40.000I really don't love e-drama as much as I get accused of being an e-drama instigator or something like this.
00:41:48.000I really am not a big... I'm not in love with that kind of thing.
00:41:51.000I know my audience doesn't really care for that, but it is relevant for us for obvious reasons.
00:41:56.000The biggest and most obvious reason is, look,
00:42:00.000And we're operating off of the assumption that nobody's lying in this article, right?
00:42:03.000We're operating off the assumption that everything in this article is basically true, and I don't really have a reason to believe that it isn't.
00:42:09.000You know, I know a lot of the people involved.
00:42:13.000So, unless and until we see something to the contrary, we're gonna operate under the assumption that, yeah, I mean, this is all, and it's not really surprising either.
00:42:20.000Fits into a pattern of behavior with these individuals and groups.
00:42:24.000But to me, the most striking takeaway is, of course, what we know about various groups within the right-wing movement.
00:42:30.000You cannot expect that you're going to bring in Kalyn Robertson and George Lulin, you know, whatever.
00:42:37.000And George, the partner in this case, a little background about him,
00:43:17.000I find that in conservative movements, but also in political movements in general, you bring these categories in, and this is just my observation, there seems to be a lot of conflict.
00:43:27.000We find that the bedrock of our worldview on America First is really that the world is comprised of groups.
00:43:37.000We're not all atomic, you know, standard units of individual human being.
00:43:43.000You know, I mean, that's, I think, the conventional liberal position, an ostensibly liberal and conservative position in America or in Europe, which is we're all just, you know, these deracinated androgynous units, the individual.
00:44:10.000These characteristics have consequences and implications for how we conduct ourselves.
00:44:17.000And so when we look at these two groups, we find, wow, there's a remarkable pattern of behavior with women and homosexuals when they enter into these movements.
00:44:26.000What I find with the women is just ceaseless division.
00:46:01.000I find that, you know, in this movement they tend to be very gossipy, tend to be, again, almost like women but, like, on crack cocaine.
00:46:07.000It's like a lot of the same tendencies of women, but if women hit, like, I don't know, Monster Zero Ultra into their veins and just went full, you know, it's like they press both the joysticks on Grand Theft Auto playing as Trevor and it's just game over for everybody, you know?
00:46:23.000I mean, these, they're like women but to the nth degree.
00:46:38.000Maybe, just an idea, our political movement should reflect the principles and ideas that underlie the movement, that the movement hopes to achieve.
00:46:47.000What kind of political movement is built on people talking about trad values and the people filming the videos about trad values are butt-slamming each other behind the scenes, right?
00:46:57.000And the people that are in front of the camera are, you know, gallivanting across the world on the you-know-what kind of carousel.
00:47:10.000My other observation is, look, what you have to understand about this kind of cheap E-drama, I see a lot of people holding up my Leonopolis and saying, oh, Milo is based!
00:47:21.000You know, I think we can at once acknowledge that there's obviously a problem with Southern, or rather, Simonson, Kalin, and these other people, while also realizing that Milo's a part of the same thing.
00:47:41.000Don't don't hold this show against me in five years when I get a big check from Qatar and I, you know, turn into some kind of e-celebrity monster.
00:48:34.000Trying to make money, but you know, they don't really care about what's going on.
00:48:37.000So people will say, oh well, this article is so great about Milo.
00:48:41.000I think it's actually fascinating as a little bit of a case study that even in an article about fake conservatives, homosexuals, grifting the right-wing movement, the person that wrote the article is doing exactly that.
00:48:56.000And this is about doing the right thing.
00:48:59.000This is about exposing bad actors so that the nationalist movement can move forward.
00:49:05.000You know, there's this ending paragraph in the article talking about how, oh, the nationalist movement is so fragile and we can't have these people involved.
00:49:13.000And what were you doing for the past three years, the person who wrote the article?
00:49:17.000You know, the article is about homosexuals who are spending more money than they have and spending it on champagne and parties and no-showing appearances.
00:49:25.000It's like, I don't know, that sounds kind of familiar.
00:49:32.000And so after we have to take a step back...
00:49:35.000I'd say, and really critically think, who are these people?
00:49:39.000Who are these people that we're watching, that we're giving our money to, that we ascribe our political, you know, dreams and hopes and pin them on these people?
00:49:48.000Because I think a lot of the times you find that the character, that's where the deficit lies, you know?
00:49:53.000And I had a conversation with somebody not too long ago about this.
00:49:56.000We were talking actually about starting up a media network.
00:50:00.000Uh, because of the demonetization thing.
00:50:02.000And there's some early talks going on.
00:50:04.000You know, obviously unauthorized TV is one option.
00:50:06.000There's people talking about other sort of avenues for that.
00:50:10.000And I said, well, you know, I tried that.
00:50:12.000I tried the network thing with James Alsup, didn't work out.
00:50:14.000And this person said, well, you know, uh, James Alsup was a grifter or something, and this has happened to be an alt-right person.
00:50:21.000And I really thought, well, you know, that's kind of the big problem here.
00:50:24.000That's really the common denominator is the grift.
00:50:27.000Is the grift people that really have no interest in living a conservative life or making a conservative nation or anything like that, but they see a lot of, uh, a lot of
00:50:37.000Attention being paid to this stuff, and therefore a lot of money to be made on this stuff.
00:50:41.000And so, take your pick at any of these people, who during the election, glommed on, you know, they saw Trump was rising, they essentially saw a vacuum that needed to be filled, you know, of somebody with nothing to lose, basically sort of a fringe, off-the-wall character, I can jump into this, I can throw in, repeat the platitudes, somebody can write my speeches, write my articles, write my books, and the money pours in.
00:51:04.000And I think you can find a lot of examples of that.
00:51:07.000And suddenly three years later, either there's a tremendous fall from grace or they've totally moved on.
00:51:11.000I think Mike Cernovich is like the archetypal example of this.
00:51:14.000Somebody who literally wrote the book, MAGA Mindset, and then within how long did it take after the election for him to say, oh I don't even support Donald Trump anymore, I'm not even a conservative anymore, I'm not even right-wing anymore, I'm not even political anymore.
00:51:30.000Actually, I think Islam is better than Catholicism, actually.
00:51:34.000And you just find all these different layers, so it's like, you know, all the shekels that were pouring in for the Maga book, well, then we were on board.
00:51:41.000Then you were, you know, a real right-wing defender.
00:51:47.000And this leads me to the final point, most important point, when we look at this stuff, which is, it cannot be said enough, I've said this for a long time,
00:51:56.000Character, personal character, is the most important thing in politics, particularly in our situation.
00:52:03.000When we're looking at an insurgent nationalist movement, particularly a conservative insurgent nationalist movement, character is bar none, the number one, perhaps the only thing that matters.
00:52:15.000And I think you see on on both sides, the alt-right and the alt-right, two sides of the same coin of people like not getting this.
00:52:22.000You know, because I think you see with Richard Spencer, and with Milo, and with Kalen, it's like the same story.
00:52:29.000You know, in the case of Richard Spencer, it's somebody who thought that ideology was the most important thing.
00:52:33.000If we could only, as political people, construct an ideology that was the most true, the most nuanced, the most apropos, you know, about the way the world is going to work, or the way the world works now, well, we're gonna win the day.
00:52:47.000Never you mind how this turns into policy, never mind how this progresses our goals or advances the cause.
00:52:53.000We're just going to go out there, say the ideology, the magic words, and the white consciousness will be raised, the day will be saved, political goals achieved, right?
00:54:34.000Because within maybe nine months of him getting that big fat check from the Mercer family, he lied and said that he was gonna have free speech week at Berkeley, and he invited all these people that he never contacted, and when Berkeley called his bluff, well, you know, he was left without any friends, any money, any backing, anything like that.
00:54:53.000Then a BuzzFeed article came out, the Mercer family didn't want to associate, now he's five million dollars in debt.
00:54:58.000So it just goes to show, have the right ideology, or maybe you think you have the right ideology, personal deficit, character deficit, and now you're irrelevant, now you're nobody.
00:55:16.000Now, you know, he's scraping together some kind of hit piece against Kalen Robertson and Lauren Southern so people will look at his website one last time, right?
00:55:54.000You can't hope that we'll be able to cheat the system, and maybe if we just try and break the system, get the shortcut, we can come around to the end.
00:56:03.000No, I mean, if you want a country that works,
00:56:07.000If you want a society and a civilization that works, and that is functional, and you like living in it, it's nice, and it's everything that we talk about, it's like it was a hundred years ago, you have to be a person that's worthy of living in that civilization.
00:56:21.000And that goes for our political operators, that goes for just everybody.
00:56:25.000You know, it really just comes down to a level of personal responsibility for what you're putting out into the world.
00:56:31.000You know, so for all the people that are out there,
00:56:33.000You know, and they're agitating for a return to traditionalism, and then they go in the back room and they're doing all kinds of sick, weird things.
00:57:10.000And I'm not saying that anybody's perfect.
00:57:12.000I'm not saying that I am the shining example of a perfect political operator.
00:57:16.000I think I'm, you know, I'm obviously not defrauding
00:57:18.000People in the way that they're doing or whatever.
00:57:21.000But I am saying that as we evolve, as we develop this movement, we have to really be careful about this kind of stuff.
00:57:27.000I mean, some say it's already too late, but there's a lot of lessons to be learned, a lot of careers that have fallen, a lot of money wasted from big donors and from small donors because you didn't have people, I don't think, who are worthy of carrying forward the movement.
00:57:42.000You didn't have people that were really serious, really principled, really living out the convictions, you know?
00:57:47.000Which I think we look at all this drama stuff and yeah it's it's sort of uninteresting petty dumb stuff and none of them are really operators anyway I think they're blacklisted by everybody so in a way it was important that it was published but to talk about it for too long the details to me is not very interesting what is interesting and relevant and pertinent is again the lessons understanding that this seems to be a recurring problem and there's a common denominator here that can be avoided so
00:59:16.000You know, again, it really comes down to, like, this invoicing.
00:59:19.000It's not really, like, thrilling details, you know, thrilling subterfuge or anything, but it does tell us about... Well, it doesn't really tell us anything.
01:00:57.000YouTube terms of service is going to misinterpret what I'm saying as some sort of misogynistic homophobic diatribe and that is the last thing I would want anybody to walk away with this with.
01:01:27.000That's gonna be our new slogan on the show.
01:01:29.000Just to remind everybody that everything that is said, you know, outside of some jokes, some edgy comedy, which the snowflakes might not like, we always are brought back to our convictions, which is
01:01:53.000I don't know if we'll have time to talk about this Vatican document because we're already close to 8 o'clock.
01:01:59.000And we do have to go over this Mexico stuff, so maybe we'll save it for tomorrow.
01:02:02.000But the other big news, more talking about things that actually matter, you know, outside of lessons, live lessons for the conservative movement.
01:02:10.000We have to talk about the real news happening in the world, which is the situation with Mexico.
01:02:16.000So like I said at the top of the show, to give you a little background, we remember on this show we covered it.
01:02:22.000It was not last Thursday, but the Thursday before I believe that Trump tweeted out We're sick and tired of this you have these record numbers of illegal immigrants coming in in the month of May It was like the highest number of 20 years that came over in the month of May in 2019
01:02:38.000I said we got to get a handle on this so unless and until things change at the border of Mexico I'll put a 5% tariff on all goods coming into America from Mexico on June 10th and my initial reaction if you watch the show and you remember was yeah not gonna happen because last month in April at the time in it was the previous month in April
01:03:00.000He had said, we're going to put big tariffs on Mexico if it doesn't change at the border.
01:03:04.000And within one week, you know, it's exactly the same timetable.
01:03:08.000Within one week of that threat, it evolved from big tariffs on Mexico until immigration stops to, well, if the drug situation doesn't improve, we'll put a tariff on Mexican cars in a year.
01:03:19.000You know, so I said, well, another tariff threat, another dollar, right?
01:03:23.000Another day, another tariff threat, another shekel.
01:03:39.000that there was this frantic effort underway by the Mexican delegation in D.C.
01:03:44.000I think their secretary of state was there, their minister of state, whatever, foreign minister.
01:03:49.000was in DC to work out a deal with Trump.
01:03:53.000And basically the framework of the deal looked like this at the time when we were talking about it on Thursday.
01:03:58.000It was that Mexico was going to promise to deploy 6,000 National Guard troops on their southern border to keep out migrants.
01:04:06.000We would implement, and this is perhaps the most important one, a third safe country agreement, which says that if, for example, somebody from Honduras, Guatemala, or Nicaragua, they're not Nicaragua, El Salvador.
01:04:19.000El Salvador, Guatemala, or Honduras, if they come through Mexico and apply for asylum in the United States, they'll be rejected because that'll be the third country they went to.
01:04:28.000Leaving their country of origin, traveling through a second safe country, and going to a third safe country, we would say, well, your asylum request isn't legitimate because you could have applied for asylum in Mexico.
01:04:39.000So that would have been really the big deal there.
01:04:41.000That's what we were most optimistic about on Thursday, is talks that that would happen.
01:04:46.000And then lastly that Mexico would increase their purchases of agricultural product from America, which would be big because we're in an ongoing trade war with China.
01:04:55.000And you see how this is all interrelated now, where we would put tariffs on Mexico, coerce them on one hand with immigration, but also to help them make up for the difference in what is going on with China while we do economic war with them.
01:05:08.000Now we see on Monday that a lot of this isn't really exactly what was promised.
01:05:13.000So Trump tweeted on Friday, he said, quote, the tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S.
01:05:18.000on Monday against Mexico are hereby indefinitely suspended.
01:05:22.000Mexico in turn has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of migration through Mexico into our southern border.
01:05:28.000So that was the promise that was made last week.
01:05:49.000And that would avert the tariff increase on July 1st.
01:05:53.000So the timetable we were working with on Thursday that was what a lot of the experts were saying and a lot of people, even the administration, was that what is most likely now, henceforth, on Thursday, is that Mexico will reach a deal with America in principle, basically, but not meet the first deadline.
01:07:22.000No, they're still there, and actually they're expanding our presence there by how many thousands of troops it was announced two weeks ago.
01:07:28.000So it's like a lot of agreements in principle in just about every area, and it seems like actually not only does the agreement not get honored, but the opposite happens.
01:07:37.000It gets worse than it was before, and it's no different this time.
01:07:41.000So Trump said, quote, we have fully signed and documented another very important part of the immigration and security deal of Mexico, one that the US has been asking about getting for many years, will be revealed in the not too distant future and will need a vote by Mexico's legislative body.
01:07:56.000We do not anticipate a problem with the vote, but if for any reason the approval is not forthcoming, tariffs will be reinstated.
01:08:07.000He says we have a signed and inked deal, and that's disputed.
01:08:11.000But he goes on to say, and you'll see it later, and it'll get passed in the Mexican Senate, but if there's problems, we're going to threaten tariffs again.
01:08:19.000So it's like, even if you had the most charitable interpretation of the events that happened this weekend, we don't even look at what Mexico is saying, and we're about to, we just look at what Donald Trump is saying.
01:08:31.000So what you're saying is, you threatened tariffs, Mexico came in and said, oh well we promised to do this, that, and the other, you have a signed deal.
01:09:21.000It says the Mexican foreign minister said Monday that no secret immigration deal existed between his country and the United States, directly contradicting President Trump's claim on Twitter that a fully signed and documented agreement would soon be revealed.
01:09:33.000Marcelo Ebrard, Mexico's top diplomat, said at a news conference in Mexico City,
01:09:38.000But there was an understanding that both sides would evaluate the flow of migrants in the coming months if the number of migrants crossing the United States border is not significantly reduced.
01:09:48.000He said both sides have agreed to renew discussions about more aggressive changes to regional asylum rules that could have a bigger effect.
01:09:55.000So what Mexico is saying is we have no written agreement with the United States.
01:10:04.000We just agreed that basically, and it is set out sort of part of an early agreement, that in 90 days we'll evaluate the flow of migrants and we'll look at how things are going.
01:10:15.000And if they're still bad, then we'll look at some changes we could implement to asylum laws.
01:10:23.000It says, as part of Friday's deal, Mexico will take strong measures towards enforcement and deploy members of its National Guard to a southern border with Guatemala.
01:10:31.000Mexico also vowed to expand migrant protection protocols, also known as Remain in Mexico, to other ports of entry along the Mexican border.
01:10:39.000So basically, we don't really know what's going on.
01:10:43.000Trump is saying they have inked this deal, which is concrete.
01:10:46.000It's, you know, there's text on a paper.
01:11:21.000If they're crossing through Mexico, which would be such a game changer.
01:11:24.000That means we don't even have to adjudicate their asylum claims.
01:11:27.000That means you have to apply for asylum in Mexico first before you apply to asylum in America.
01:11:33.000So that means that all these asylum seekers that are surrendering in ports of entry, we can turn them away.
01:11:38.000The problem is now we have to adjudicate them, bring them in, release them into the country because we don't have sufficient detention space at the border to keep them there while we process the claim.
01:11:47.000The Migrant Protection Protocol says we still have to adjudicate the claim, they just wait in Mexico.
01:11:53.000This has already been in place for months now.
01:11:56.000And yeah, you've returned about 10,000 people in the months since it has been implemented to Mexico while they wait, but the applications are still being processed.
01:12:05.000So there's still an incentive for them to come here.
01:12:07.000They're still surrendering at the ports of entry.
01:12:09.000It's just that they have to wait in Mexico.
01:12:10.000And that's, don't get me wrong, that's better.
01:12:12.000But that's not the third safe country agreement.
01:12:15.000The National Guard troops being deployed at the southern border, I guess that's a little bit better.
01:12:19.000But that's already, they've had National Guard troops on the border for a year in Mexico.
01:12:23.000So they're saying we'll throw some more troops there.
01:12:26.000I don't think that really makes a difference in terms of how many people have come over because it's been in effect for a long time.
01:12:33.000So the best case scenario that we have is that they've inked a deal and it's in writing.
01:12:39.000It just needs to be passed in the Mexican Senate and it says we're going to expand the migrant protection protocols, send a few more troops to the border, and nothing about buying agricultural product.
01:12:58.000Worst case scenario, and you know, why should we expect anything else over the past three years, right?
01:13:03.000The worst case scenario is that there's no inked agreement, there is no agreement in principle or in writing, and that what, you know, we're really talking about is what was talked about in the New York Times, which is that
01:13:15.000Mexico and America will review the migrant flows in you know 45 or 90 days and evaluate based on that what changes they can implement in the future.
01:13:25.000So your best case scenario is basically this terrible weak deal that does nothing and has yet to even be passed or seen by the public.
01:13:58.000And, you know, all these people out there, all these mogapeans, Donald Trump is a genius!
01:14:02.000Donald Trump just used tariffs to break Mexico.
01:14:05.000And this is going to send a signal to China.
01:14:07.000If anything, this sends a signal to China that we're not serious, right?
01:14:10.000If we threaten tariffs to Mexico before they even go into effect, we basically totally concede on this conceptual agreement that they're not even willing to say in a press conference exists.
01:14:21.000I don't know how you have any leverage in any deal after that, you know, but we keep going.
01:14:27.000And I guess there's a lot of parties you can blame for this.
01:14:30.000Maybe you say that, well, Mitch McConnell was going to thwart the tariffs.
01:14:34.000Mitch McConnell was going to overwrite the tariffs, so he had to back down.
01:14:37.000I'm getting tired of that kind of stuff, because let Mitch McConnell do that.
01:14:41.000You know, if the argument goes that, well, Trump couldn't get a good deal because the tariffs couldn't have gone into effect, because if Trump tried to sign the declaration of a state of emergency to get the tariffs, that Mitch McConnell would overturn that, that Mitch McConnell and
01:14:57.000The Republicans in the House would vote to overturn the tariffs on Mexico?
01:15:02.000It's just like with the federal spending bill.
01:15:04.000Remember after the government shutdown ended and they did it with a deal that was passed by Mitch McConnell in the Senate that said that we're going to get rid of, or rather we're going to implement immunity for sponsors of minors and we're going to expand catch and release and all this stuff, and everybody said, oh well, Trump had to sign that.
01:16:12.000You know, even though if he were really serious, he would just dare Mitch McConnell to veto, or rather to override his veto of the funding bill.
01:16:18.000And same with this tariff threat to Mexico.
01:16:21.000I don't think he threatened to put tariffs on Mexico to fix the situation at the border.
01:17:23.000And if Mitch McConnell says we're going to override your tariffs because our business interests
01:17:28.000Don't like that you're passing tariffs?
01:17:30.000Let them do that, and let them explain to the American people come 2020 why the Republican Party went against the President, who has a 90% approval rating, and why they went against tariffs, why they went against a measure to stop illegal immigration, and on and on.
01:17:44.000But, I mean, that's just not happening.
01:17:45.000For whatever reason, it's not happening, and there's no excuse anymore, you know?
01:17:49.000Two years ago, I would have said, well, the Congress, well, this and that.
01:19:36.000If they were serious about the war on drugs, we could win the war on drugs, but they're not serious.
01:19:41.000You know, everybody says the war on drugs is a failure.
01:19:44.000We've spent all this money and, you know, people have been incarcerated or killed because of the war on drugs and drug use has only increased.
01:23:09.000She's such a horrible, horrible person, witch.
01:23:13.000uh d cas says boomer props you are the future love your show well thank you man much appreciated you will be spared i promise i promise just present present this ticket at the you know when the zoomers take over and you know we'll we'll carve out a nice place for you that boy says but without illegal immigration blueberries will be more expensive and who would build the houses uh my cringe and blue pill brother says this yeah
01:23:43.000Me and my mom were watching the news or she was watching in another room.
01:23:47.000I was doing something else and it was like, oh, well, their report is that if the tariffs go into effect, avocados could become more expensive.
01:24:28.000The only prices that have increased for me are gas taxes, and that's because Illinois is bankrupt.
01:24:33.000That has nothing to do with China, you know.
01:24:35.000I think all the numbers show that, if anything, the costs from the trade war have been eaten by manufacturers and by China itself.
01:24:43.000China having to subsidize its own businesses over there to stay competitive.
01:24:49.000So all these alarmists that were going on and on about tariffs on China saying, well, it's you're going to pay a lot more for consumer goods.
01:25:57.000The reason Americans won't do those jobs is not because Americans don't want to work hard, it's because Americans don't work for slave wages, because Americans typically don't like taking welfare, they don't have some kind of supplemental income regime, or they don't defraud the system.
01:26:12.000There's a lot of reasons for this, you know?
01:26:39.000But unfortunately for the greedy capitalist pig, they would have to shell out money for health care, for benefits, OSHA regulations, all kinds of other things that they don't do when it's illegals, you know, or when it's cheap labor from Mexico or from some other place.
01:26:53.000So it actually, you know, that argument works against itself.
01:26:56.000People would say, well, but you know, we'd have the shortage of labor.
01:27:02.000So, you know, people at once complain about wages are falling and, you know, the middle class isn't getting ahead, but they're in favor of ever-increasing immigration.
01:27:28.000Yo Nick, immigration in the UK is crazy.
01:27:35.000Parts of my city have been taken over.
01:27:37.000I even heard about one street being called the Isle where the Sikhs are.
01:27:45.000Mr. K Mass says I was making fun of you being a mutt last week, but later that day my mom unironically told me she's a quarter black and that I'm an octoroon.
01:30:01.000Maxie says, press turtle in the chat to give our movement max health and armor.
01:30:05.000Yeah, you gotta enter in the cheat code turtle to go turtle mode, max health, max armor.
01:30:13.000Lawyer up if you want to get Jared Holt off our case.
01:30:16.000You gotta type in the cheat code lawyer up if you want to get Jared Holt, Right Wing Watch, Christopher Mathias, Luke O'Brien to stop writing hit pieces about you.
01:30:53.000And I was like, this guy's really smart and he hits all the right notes, but then you kind of look into what's going on there and it's like, we got a Wignat-ish affiliations.
01:31:02.000So I think, like TRS, we're content to say, you know, there's some good stuff coming out of there, but...
01:31:09.000Maybe best if we just go our own way, you know, chart our own course.
01:31:41.000I think Faith Goldie told me something about that.
01:31:43.000But I don't really keep up with the Canadian politics, so I don't really know anything about that.
01:31:48.000I'll just say, you know, this proves that as gay as America is, Canada will always be gayer, you know?
01:31:53.000So for everybody that says, you know, Trump is a Cheeto man or whatever, it's like, well, you have Justin Trudeau, so...
01:32:00.000But yeah, sorry to hear that my friend Canada once great country now, not so much right?
01:32:06.000God's plans is to feel when or one New York Times article from being alien deniers.
01:32:12.000Yeah Disclosure imminent who knows right?
01:32:16.000Pro-truth Anti-media says many accounts even history teachers who had certain historical footage gone over Crowder spat and he gets re-monetized
01:33:25.000But for future reference if you want a little bit more of a clear response You gotta have a little bit of clarity in the in the super chat We gotta we gotta be using all the precise and every word that we intend to use To convey meaning, you know, and this is really truly what language is Using precise words to convey meaning we really have to I think focus on on some of these skills there, but thanks
01:35:18.000All right salad a couple of times this week I had you know, just straight-up just good healthy food All right, and I haven't had fast food in a long time.
01:35:28.000So I Don't need I don't trust the vitamins.
01:35:31.000I get my vitamins from the food that I eat Cressif says hey Nick.
01:36:01.000So whatever sir Volker Steen says Crowder.
01:36:03.000I'm fighting for free speech David Irving spends 4,000 days in solitary confinement for wrong think brah did David Irving Spend time in solitary confinement.
01:36:13.000I didn't know that Let me look that up.
01:36:34.000I got this Logitech keyboard and it's like, whatever, for whatever reason, the receiver, if the keyboard's in the wrong position, it doesn't receive it.
01:36:43.000Solitary confinement in Vienna, November 2005 to December 2006.
01:38:20.000It's a little tough sometimes, but what's more rewarding than that?
01:38:24.000Spending time with your children, your family.
01:38:27.000No, I would rather, I would rather, you know, be a content creator on YouTube.
01:38:31.000I would rather make videos of myself and have to ceaselessly, ceaselessly come up with new political content so that, you know, people could dox me and threaten to harass me or kill me or, you know, get beta orbiters or whatever and I gotta pay bills and yeah, gee, tough choice.
01:38:49.000It's a really hard choice to make, man.
01:38:55.000Why is Stargate SG-1 such a good TV show?
01:39:23.000If you're gonna join any organization, you should join them.
01:39:26.000But I gotta be honest with you, I think, I think organizations in general, I think you really got to consider the risk factor.
01:39:35.000I would say be very, very cautious, err on the side of safety when it comes to that.
01:39:41.000Because, you know, we've seen a lot of incidents lately where, you know,
01:39:47.000A little bit of exposure to groups like that, it can come back to bite you.
01:39:51.000And it's not... AIM is one of the better groups, you know, they have very good OPSEC and all that, and I think Patrick Casey is a very competent leader.
01:40:13.000You take a risk when you join on there.
01:40:14.000If it's like you lose your livelihood if that gets exposed and you know your family's gonna go hungry, I would say you think twice, but it depends on your personal situation.
01:40:31.000All these people, yeah, it's always funny.
01:40:33.000They talk about platforming the America first, but they're concerned about it because they know the people will watch the show because it's good content and it's true, right?
01:40:42.000Theos is money for our favorite eboy hedgehog enthusiast.
01:45:44.000I'll be getting in the gym very soon I have to because I'm developing a little bit of a belly not a not a huge belly I'm not getting fat but just a little bit of a you know, a little bit of a little
01:46:03.000You know, I was looking in the mirror the other day, I was like, oh boy, I got a little bit of a, got a little bit of a belly.
01:46:09.000I don't know, I don't even necessarily mind that.
01:46:11.000You know, I think having a belly is kind of a Chad thing.
01:46:14.000The virgin, fragile six-pack versus the Chad belly, you know?
01:46:18.000Imagine me, boisterous, smashing into you on the street, my big belly, bumping into you and you bounce off of it into traffic, you know, versus some, you know, six-pack, you're eating salads, you know, doing your little crunches.
01:46:32.000The chad belly, it's just a cauldron of pasta and hot dogs.
01:46:37.000I think, you know, there's clearly a superior way to live there.
01:46:41.000Anyway, Video Game Snake says, uh, wait, what?
01:46:44.000Kaelin leaked Gavin's stuff to Antifa?
01:46:47.000I met him once and he gave me raging homo vibes.
01:49:47.000I am a cool guy, and I am a part of the cool crowd.
01:49:49.000I guess the tables have turned, haven't they?
01:49:50.000I guess the tables have turned, you know?
01:49:53.000Now, I'm the cool Internet guy leading the cool Internet movement.
01:50:06.000People with no connections or influence are often defamed or have their personal lives picked apart because they share the same opinions you share.
01:50:13.000Where do we draw the line when it comes to character flaws?
01:51:03.000You can't be... I think it's... I think... I don't think you really need to define it very well.
01:51:07.000I think people can very well understand the difference between sort of just being a human being and somebody who's obviously problematic.
01:51:15.000And we see the people that are problematic, you know.
01:51:18.000It's not, in the case of these people, it's not like their lives were ripped apart, it's they imploded, they self-sabotaged because of their moral failings, right?
01:51:27.000So I'm not saying it's like, we have to go after and rip apart people that aren't moral, that aren't, you know, living up to.
01:51:33.000People do that, I don't like people who do that.
01:51:35.000I'm talking about people like, Milo's a good example, who flamed out because of drug and alcohol addiction.
01:52:57.000Nicholas says here they come screaming across the sky it's lots and lots of jets planes the greatest collection of aviation DVDs we've ever offered and through the special TV offer you can get two DVDs for the price of one now I remember that one too lots and lots of jets and planes they also did another what was the other one they did another one just like that but yeah the old infomercials the new zoomers will never understand they will never they will never know what it was like
01:53:25.000To watch these dated infomercials in between, you know, Nickelodeon shows or whatever.
01:53:31.000The Sunroof Retractable Awning, you remember that one?
01:53:34.000That one was on up until very recently, the same advertisement, for like 10 years.
01:58:15.000Meaningful that you would write it on your body like that, you know people getting a Chinese character skull or barbed wire Whoa, dude, you're cool.
01:58:24.000So I guess it makes sense if you're in a gang if you're in the military I think that's the only maybe borderline acceptable applications, but I'm just against it.
01:58:32.000I don't think that's only it's cool I think it's gross.
01:58:34.000I think it looks dumb King Harless says stop eating salads need more Big Macs.
01:58:39.000You can go from being a big boy to a big man
01:58:49.000I'm just gonna be me, I guess you could say.
01:58:52.000David Sperger says, Nick, did you know that you can get 12 issues of Zoobucks with the elephant issue and tiger poster for only $19.95 and each issue comes with stickers.
02:01:34.000You know so people always with the church sex scandal as if the Catholic Church is the one of the largest organizations in the world and people point out a handful of scandals that exist in every other institution at higher rates and say well the church is particularly a problem.
02:01:50.000So you can go after yourself Billy says Nick.
02:01:53.000I decided to give a name to my America first mug I chose the name Nick as a tribute to you.