Tonight we covered the first Democratic Primary Debates live on NBC, covering Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Crowley, Tulsi Gabbard, Beto O Rourke, Amy Klobuchar, Tim Ryan, and Bill de Blasio. We have a special guest on America First, where we give our thoughts on the Democratic Debates and much more! Thanks to everyone for all your support, stay tuned to America First and stay tuned for the second Democratic Debate tomorrow! Thanks also to our sponsor, VaynerMedia, for sponsoring this show and for all the hard work they put in to making it possible for us to bring you the best Democratic commentary and analysis on all things going on in the primary debates. Thank you so much to everyone who has been working so hard to make this possible. We can't wait to do it again next week! - Nicholas J. Fuentes and the crew at America First and we'll be back with more analysis and commentary on the second Debates next week on Tuesday, February 15th, 2020. Stay tuned for a full recap of the first Debates, Tuesday Night, 2020, Wednesday Night, February 16th, and Thursday Night 2020. Thanks so much for listening and God bless you all! See you next Tuesday, November 6, 2020! -- Nick -- Yours Truly, Kristy -- -- Jon Fuentez Jon Fennessey Cheers, Sarah Steve Kovler Tim Cook Evan Lewis . Sarah Kambos Rachel Maddow Bill Peters John Avraham Julian Orr Ben Kucheck Mike McLendon Joe Biden ... Kristy Kacz Tom Pizzi & more Katie Grgurich Hillary Clinton Andrew Yang Michael Bloomberg And much more... What s going to happen next Tuesday? , and much, much more!! Don't miss it! Thank You, Jon Rocha Thankyou, Jonothan - Will we have a full episode soon? Thanks for listening to the first episode of America First? ...and much more, Jon Fjerstad in the coming weeks, Jon Soriano JVVV Chris Brown ?
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00:15:21.000Tonight, debating, we had Cory Booker, Julian Castro, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke, Amy Klobuchar, Tim Ryan, Bill de Blasio, Delaney, Tulsi Gabbard, and Jay Inslee.
00:15:33.000And these were the candidates that debated tonight.
00:15:35.000Remember that the way that the debates works, the way that it's going to work this week, is that they had two qualifications to get into the debates.
00:15:44.000You either had to raise 65,000 individual donors, so it wasn't actually an amount of money, but you either had to have had 65,000 individual donators by a certain deadline, which I think was sometime in June, or you had to poll at least 1% in a national poll.
00:16:02.000And so I think over 20 candidates qualified.
00:16:04.000They took the top 20, they separated them into groups of 10 at random, and they had one team debate on Thursday in primetime, and another debate was today in primetime.
00:16:15.000And the reason they did this was to prevent the JV varsity situation that was in the Republican primary in 2016.
00:16:24.000If you remember there were 18 candidates running for the Republican nomination at 16 and they had I believe 10 at like 5 o'clock and this ended up getting no attention.
00:16:34.000None of those people are competitive with one exception being Carly Fiorina and then they had the prime time to debate with the top 10.
00:16:41.000I have to tell you honestly after watching this debate
00:16:45.000They should have done the JV and varsity.
00:16:47.000Why would they have some of the front runners like Warren, Beto, Booker, Klobuchar, arguably, or Castro arguing on one night and then the top tier candidates Biden and Sanders and most of the second tier the second night and just filling up time, taking up space, all these literally who's that nobody's ever heard of before?
00:17:08.000Why do we have to sit and listen through Delaney and Tim Ryan and Jay Inslee?
00:17:13.000People who nobody knows about, who everybody knows stands no chance of winning, and tomorrow it'll be the same thing.
00:17:19.000We'll have to listen to people like Marianne Williamson and God knows who else.
00:17:23.000I don't even know the rest of the people running tomorrow.
00:17:26.000So it's a big mistake in the first place to do this the way that they did it.
00:17:29.000They should have done it one night, have all the nobodies debating at one time,
00:18:56.000The 2016 Republican primary, which actually, the first debate, which would be analogous to this one that was held for the Republicans, for the Republican nomination in 16 for president, their first debate was held in August.
00:19:10.000So if we were to look at it on a comparable timeline, if this were the 2016 election, the first debate of the whole season did not happen until late August, would have been this year, right?
00:19:21.000If we were to transfer it four years ahead.
00:19:24.000So it's a very early debate, but if you remember the 2016 debate with Republicans, it was exciting, it was energetic, a lot of that was because you had Donald Trump, but if you remember right out of the gate, it was Rand Paul versus Trump, and then it was all these different people fighting with each other, it was crosstalk, it was name-calling, it was big, it was exciting, 27 million people watched it on Fox News, there were no technical difficulties, you know, so I'm watching this debate and my first big takeaway is
00:19:51.000Organizationally and logistically it was a disaster.
00:19:55.000It was a big mistake to have all the smaller guys in there.
00:19:58.000But in terms of the substance, it was just so boring.
00:20:01.000You had maybe four examples, four or five notable examples of real crosstalk or little...
00:20:08.000You know, banter most notably between Bill de Blasio and Beto O'Rourke.
00:20:13.000You also had an exchange between Beto O'Rourke and Julian Castro.
00:20:16.000You had an exchange between Tulsi Gabbard and Tim Ryan.
00:20:19.000These were the most notable exchanges and they are relatively muted and relatively inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
00:20:27.000So my first takeaway is basically a big boring debate and the reason for that is because all the candidates are basically the same.
00:20:34.000If you actually sat through and listened to the two-hour debate as we did, and we go candidate by candidate, it's really sort of hard to pick out little moments or little things because just about every candidate said basically the same thing on every issue.
00:20:48.000You know, take like gun control as an example.
00:21:48.000You know, all the answers, it was each person trying to one-up, in some cases in the language, but also in the policy proposals of who could go bigger, crazier, more expensive, more unrealistic, more pie in the sky.
00:22:01.000You know, even the few exchanges that did break out, for example, the one between Bill de Blasio and Beto O'Rourke, it was, well, Beto O'Rourke says public option, and de Blasio says, well, that's not good enough.
00:22:12.000We need to make all private healthcare illegal.
00:22:15.000Or the exchange between Beto O'Rourke and Julian Castro on immigration.
00:22:19.000Beto O'Rourke says, well, we need to do comprehensive immigration reform, and we need to protect people, and we need to, you know, give a pathway to citizenship, and protect people from ICE.
00:22:28.000And Julian Castro says, well, hold up.
00:22:31.000You need to make illegal immigration a civil offense, and basically make it so that it's not illegal at all.
00:22:37.000And so, even when there was differentiation,
00:22:40.000Even when there was distinguishing between different candidates and everybody was desperately trying to do that, it was who can one up in terms of who can go bigger, more extreme, more out there, and it's all completely unrealistic.
00:22:52.000So that was my my biggest takeaway from the debate is it's boring and beyond that the problem is that they're all racing to the left.
00:22:59.000This is going to be a big problem for the Democrats.
00:23:19.000The ones who made the most sense to me, and this is very low bar, so you take that with a grain of salt.
00:23:23.000I'm not saying I agree, but the ones that actually seem to have a little bit of nuance to their policy perspectives, you had Tim Ryan, you had Delaney, and you had Tulsi Gabbard.
00:23:34.000All three of these guys, none of them really received a very warm reception.
00:23:38.000The big applause lines came from for Warren, for Cory Booker, for Castro, for Bill de Blasio, talking about how we're going to put trans black people first, and how we're going to put illegal immigrants first, and all this kind of stuff.
00:23:51.000So to me, this is representative of a big problem the Democrats are having, which I noted way early in the race, really before the race even began, which is that what's happening in the Democratic Party right now is this major cleavage, major polarization and division between these two camps, which is progressives on the one side,
00:24:11.000Like Elizabeth Warren, like Bill de Blasio, like Cory Booker, and the pragmatists and the more establishmentarian types on the other side.
00:24:19.000People like Delaney and those other people who are willing to offer nuance, saying things like Tim Ryan, I think, had a very poignant moment of maybe a little bit too much honesty where he said, the perception of Democrats, and it was amazing to see this because it seemed like inadvertently he admitted what everybody knows to be true and that was a big no-no,
00:24:39.000He said the perception of Democrats is that we are elitist, coastal, Ivy League.
00:24:44.000We need to reorient the party back towards the Midwest and back towards working people.
00:24:49.000And he said, well, that's the perception.
00:25:15.000And moreover trying to appeal to the middle and in some cases to the people that Donald Trump won over on the right in Ohio, in the Midwest, in Pennsylvania, in these states.
00:25:25.000So to me this is going to be a big problem for them.
00:25:27.000It'll be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out tomorrow when you have Joe Biden who's of course the biggest establishment guy of all.
00:25:34.000So that was a pretty interesting takeaway.
00:25:37.000We're going to go over I guess we'll look at the issues then we'll look at winners and losers of the debate.
00:25:42.000So on the issues, like I said, they talked about economy, healthcare, immigration, they talked about Iran, guns, the Supreme Court, climate change and minorities.
00:25:53.000So on the economy, you know, this is actually an area where I think the Democrats are sort of
00:25:58.000They've been saying the same stuff for many years, which is, we need the economy to work for the people.
00:26:45.000They've basically lost the mandate of the working class.
00:26:48.000And so every candidate was trying their own angle, their own rhetorical angle on how can we recapture, how can we acknowledge this problem and win them back.
00:26:56.000Bill de Blasio I think made a very impassioned speech.
00:26:59.000Yes, the Republicans are winning the working class.
00:27:02.000Regionally, they're winning the Midwest.
00:28:28.000But who could really say that they were against the interests of the big corporations because, you know, newsflash, most of the people on the stage there take contributions from big corporations.
00:28:37.000Maybe Elizabeth Warren is a slight exception.
00:29:04.000In the first year of his term this would save the economy and this would give him a big bump in 18 and 20 but you see that there are some very strong talking points on where the dividends for this tax cut or where the dividends for this economic growth are paying out.
00:29:19.000Certainly if you look at the polling although something like 90 some percent of taxpayers saw a tax cut
00:30:27.000There was one notable moment when they asked everybody to raise their hands and that was on the issue of eliminating private health care.
00:30:35.000So at the outset of the beginning of the health care topic, one of the moderators said, you know, raise your hand if you would completely eliminate any
00:31:08.000Well, we're in favor of universal health care, but Medicare for All is not politically feasible, or it's not practical, or something like this.
00:31:17.000So to me, this was one of the more interesting issues.
00:31:19.000Right out of the gate, they asked Elizabeth Warren.
00:31:21.000She gave her answer about universal health care.
00:31:24.000And there's a very telling exchange then between Beto and Bill de Blasio, where Beto basically defended
00:31:29.000Universal health care in principle and maybe public option or a road towards universal, but not eliminating private health care.
00:31:37.000Bill de Blasio called them out on this and said, well, what are you doing here?
00:31:44.000It was a very telling exchange about where the Democratic electorate is at.
00:31:47.000And so it's interesting that on the one hand, you know, there are a lot of candidates polling well who don't support Medicare for all, but all the big applause lines are for people that are in favor of Medicare for all.
00:31:58.000It's interesting how the rhetoric and a lot of the progressive ideological stuff, in my opinion, is going to run up against reality when these people have to actually vie in the primary for votes or when they go into the general election.
00:32:11.000They're trying to win over independents, conservatives.
00:32:14.000I think you might have a lot of damage that can be done by these pragmatists on the matter of something like Medicare for All.
00:32:25.000Even the people that were against Medicare for All, like Klobuchar and others, said, well, we are in favor of universal health care, we just think that Medicare for All is not the right way to get there, because Medicare for All will put hospitals out of business, or Medicare for All is not politically feasible, or something like this.
00:32:44.000And so, therefore, what we have to do is implement it gradually, but ultimately get to universal and nationalized health care anyway.
00:32:51.000So, the Democratic Party is for universal health care.
00:32:54.000So, that was interesting in that regard.
00:32:56.000They did a little bit of a pivot towards reproductive rights inside of the issue of health care, and it's sort of fascinating, throughout the debate, they focused on it for a couple of minutes in the first segment, but throughout the debate, people could not help themselves, like every other answer, trying to shoehorn in
00:33:35.000And I believe they did a show of hands on this one as well.
00:33:37.000You know, who's in favor of reproductive rights?
00:33:40.000Everybody's in favor of reproductive so-called... I'm using their language for the sake of analyzing this debate, but everybody's in favor of abortion.
00:33:48.000Castro is probably the most striking person in the whole debate.
00:33:53.000Because he is, by far, the most extreme, the most radical, and he got the biggest applause lines.
00:33:59.000I think, by far and away, he, in terms of proportional to his polling numbers, did the best.
00:34:06.000And that was based on these radical stances, particularly on an issue like this, where he said, well, I wouldn't just say it's reproductive rights, I would say it's reproductive justice!
00:34:23.000I mean it's like borderline politically damaging to be in favor of abortion at this point.
00:34:30.000In the Democratic primary it isn't, but if you look at the polling for young people, if you look at it for people just generally in registered voters or likely voters for the general election, abortion is rapidly losing currency in politics.
00:34:44.000For him to go as far to say that, well, actually abortion is justice, and I'm defending abortion for trans people, this should just go to show you how far the Democratic Party has moved to the left.
00:34:54.000I know that's sort of a Republican talking point, a Fox News talking point, but it's so true.
00:35:00.000That you've got this little goblino on the stage talking about how we need reproductive justice for trans people.
00:35:07.000Like, think how quickly things are moving.
00:35:10.000That's what's notable about the healthcare issue, but by far and away, they're all basically the same on that issue.
00:35:20.000It's sort of interesting, the moderator that they chose for this one.
00:35:23.000What was striking about this issue is that the moderator, who I didn't catch his name, but they had some Hispanic moderator, and the way he framed it, it was like he was a partisan himself.
00:35:32.000He says, well, people are dying, and we all saw that picture.
00:36:16.000If crossing illegally is simply one of these minor violations, like an administrative type thing, then that means that there's, in effect, no difference between America and Mexico.
00:36:25.000It's like the same thing of not having a proper sticker on your car, not going for emissions testing, you know, something like that.
00:36:32.000Really, if there's no penalty for it, then how is it against the law?
00:36:58.000You know, because Beta O'Rourke, his name is Robert O'Rourke, and he's 100% Irish, and all his political cloud and capital comes from pretending to be Hispanic.
00:37:08.000And he's out there saying, well, you know, we need a pathway to citizenship, and we need to do this, that, and the other.
00:37:13.000And he got called out by Castro, who said, well, that's fine and well, but it's not good enough.
00:37:18.000Why don't you support turning back this section 1325 of the INA?
00:37:25.000And they had this little conflict and it really comes first full circle because it just goes to show the one that embarrasses this white man, this white democrat on the stage, who maybe could stand a chance if he could rise up and become who he is and be charismatic and be Beto O'Rourke but he chose to be muted
00:37:59.000From this three feet tall Puerto Rican guy calling him out for not wanting to decriminalize illegal immigration, which is like a poison pill for Democrats to embrace.
00:38:50.000But if you listen to some of his speeches from 2009-2010, he would say things like, it's not acceptable for people to come in illegally, and you'll be deported, and you should not get comfortable because you'll get deported.
00:39:03.000You know, so look at the transformation where, and I'll admit, you know, I'm not saying Obama was a strong borders guy, but he had better numbers than Trump in many months, he paid lip service to borders many times throughout his administration, and just in the past how many years?
00:39:19.00010 years we've gone from paying lip service and basically a minimal level of border control to most people on the stage saying, yeah, we should just make it not illegal for people to cross the border illegally.
00:39:31.000We should just completely decriminalize it.
00:40:17.000That really wasn't a strong issue for the Democrats.
00:40:20.000I found that throughout the debate, when they talked about foreign policy, whether it was Iran or whether it was Afghanistan or whether it was Beto O'Rourke being asked about right to protect towards the end,
00:40:31.000All of them basically just pivoted away.
00:40:33.000Every single time foreign policy was brought up, they didn't really answer with substance how they would conduct a foreign policy.
00:40:40.000And it was actually sort of interesting when they were asked, what's your number one geopolitical threat?
00:40:45.000A lot of them said nuclear proliferation, the situation in Iran, which is sort of like a subtle way of saying we're going to be hawkish towards rogue states like North Korea, Iran, others.
00:41:11.000Trump has blundered into another war, he's made us not safe, and blah blah blah, but they didn't really offer any substance on what they would do for foreign policy.
00:41:19.000It was basically absent any real coherent foreign policy doctrine, with the exception of maybe Tulsi Gabbard.
00:41:25.000It was all pivoting towards, well, you know,
00:41:27.000Trump is doing bad, like it or not, he's doing bad, and we would make it better.
00:41:31.000Klobuchar said, well, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action wasn't perfect, it was good for the time, but, you know, we can all agree Trump just did a bad job, and that was the answer.
00:42:10.000I thought this was Elizabeth Warren's weakest moment in the whole debate.
00:42:14.000I thought she did relatively well overall, but in this issue she said she was the first up and the question was, what are you going to do about guns?
00:42:22.000And she said, well, I would make it a matter of public health.
00:43:00.000That was tactically a smart thing to do because gun control is very divisive for independents and even for a lot of left-wing people, particularly in the Northeast where she's from.
00:43:10.000You know that Bernie Sanders is very, very controlled when it comes to the rhetoric on guns because in Vermont gun control is not very popular.
00:43:18.000I'm thinking maybe it's similar to Elizabeth Warren.
00:43:21.000She spent so much time in the Northeast that she knows that she can alienate a lot of white people, a lot of Democrats by going all out in favor of gun control.
00:43:30.000But it struck me as sort of an interesting moment where she had this big opportunity to say she would go big and go crazy on guns.
00:43:37.000And she said, and she made very, very good points.
00:43:40.000She was careful to say, well, we're not going to go after collectors who've owned their guns for 10 years.
00:43:45.000We're talking about weapons of war and it's a public health emergency.
00:44:47.000You know, climate change is an existential threat and should be a priority.
00:44:51.000There was an interesting pivot among people like Elizabeth Warren and Jay Inslee talking about how, well, what we need to do is make green energy an economic issue, which I thought was an interesting pivot.
00:45:03.000So that maybe could bring in people who understand the climate is an issue but are worried about socialism or big government or something like that, that it's a big net negative on the economy.
00:45:13.000You know, you remember Solyndra and other investments like this.
00:45:16.000You can even look at a country like Spain.
00:45:17.000Ryan Gerdeski tweeted out some numbers there where countries that embrace the green stuff, it's a huge economic negative to do that.
00:45:25.000Either when the free market does it and it's subsidized or when the government invests in it, it usually is a failure.
00:45:31.000So I thought it was interesting that a lot of the candidates were saying, well, we're in favor of addressing climate change and that's a huge deal.
00:45:37.000And that was indistinguishable, undifferentiated.
00:45:40.000However, they were going to make it about the economy.
00:45:42.000And they said, well, there's another angle to look at it, which is jobs.
00:45:46.000Elizabeth Warren says, well, we should research the technology of the future and there's a 20-some trillion dollar, 40-some trillion dollar market for green technology and we should invest in it and then turn it around and export it and sell it because people need to clean up their air and water, which I thought was a strategic and a good take by her.
00:46:04.000I don't know if I agree with that analysis.
00:46:06.000I don't think that the green stuff, in terms of green energy being a source of economic revitalization, I don't know if I buy that that's true.
00:46:33.000Tim Ryan and Tulsi Gabbard, I thought that was pretty interesting.
00:46:36.000But aside from that, those were the big issues, and really, it's exactly what we expected.
00:46:40.000You know, everybody basically agrees, the parties move totally far to the left, and maybe where there is disagreement, it's really a matter of pragmatism, but the core goals remain the same, and this will be a source of division.
00:46:52.000I think those are the key takeaways on the issues.
00:46:55.000To me, the big winners and losers of the debate
00:47:16.000So at the top of the list was Cory Booker who talked 11 times, Castro talked 10 times, Elizabeth Warren talked 9 times, Beto was 9, Klobuchar had 8 times that she was talking, Ryan talked 7 times, de Blasio 6, Delaney 6, Gabbard 6 times, and Inslee 5 times.
00:47:35.000So, in terms of your top 5, it was Booker, Castro, Warren, Beto, and Klobuchar, which is your top 5 in polling, and your bottom 5 in polling was your bottom 5 in speaking.
00:47:44.000So, basically, what was expected there.
00:47:47.000To me, the biggest winners, I would say, would be Elizabeth Warren, Julian Castro, Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker, and Tim Ryan.
00:47:57.000You know, Tim Ryan is pulling it like 0% nationally and in most of the swing states, but he did have some pretty good moments in there.
00:48:05.000I think out of all the candidates that were towards the bottom of the list, I would say that he was probably the only one who really had some good moments where maybe people might say he's slightly different.
00:48:16.000Tim Ryan is a representative from Ohio and he kept stressing the fact that the Democratic Party should try to appeal to people between the coasts, to try to appeal to working class people.
00:48:26.000I thought Elizabeth Warren did pretty well.
00:48:28.000She was obviously the favored winner in this debate.
00:48:29.000She was polling the highest out of anybody in this particular debate.
00:48:42.000She's been surging in national polls across all the candidates recently, and she had a lot of good moments.
00:48:47.000I thought her message was pretty strong.
00:48:50.000Her message is that she is the progressive, and beyond that, that she is going to fight.
00:48:54.000And I think that's a very satisfying answer for critics or skeptics of the progressive wing.
00:49:00.000You know, if there is this cleavage and this battle between two factions, which is
00:49:04.000Progressives who can be seen as idealists and establishment people who can be seen as realists or on the other side maybe not idealist enough.
00:49:14.000A satisfying answer for critics of Elizabeth Warren when they say, well, you're too progressive, you're not realistic.
00:49:20.000You know when you get people like Delaney saying Medicare for all is good in theory and universal health care is good in principle but Medicare for all is not good policy, Elizabeth Warren will retort with this and this is the message of her campaign which is, well I'm fighting and that's the difference.
00:49:51.000I'm the hardcore progressive and that's perhaps a bad thing.
00:49:54.000But her answer to that is, well, those people who say that just simply aren't going to get in the mud and fight the big corporations.
00:50:01.000And so I think that's a very, that's very effective messaging.
00:50:04.000That's a very effective way for her to differentiate in the sense that she's got, you know, the background as a progressive, which makes her credible ideologically.
00:50:12.000But then at the same time, she also has an answer for the establishment types who would say, well, we offer perhaps electability or pragmatism.
00:50:20.000So to me, she really fleshed out her message.
00:50:23.000She's a very, I hate to say it, she's likable.
00:50:26.000I didn't used to think she was likable.
00:50:27.000I used to see her as like the shrieking harpy.
00:51:07.000He differentiated himself on immigration, on some of these other issues, on health care, and a few others.
00:51:14.000And so he really has cemented himself as like the radical in the race, has all his ducks in a row being the wokest guy, was speaking Spanish a lot, he's got the latinx sort of thing, he owns that, but I think that might be a problem for him.
00:51:26.000He's gotten some attention, I think he was a notable performer in the debate, but I think that this radical sort of turn I think will be his downfall.
00:51:34.000I think that him being so far to the left gives room for people like Elizabeth Warren to say, I'm a little bit
00:51:41.000Practical I'm a little bit moderate right so I think that in the end somebody like Castro could do damage Because maybe he gets to the end of the race.
00:51:49.000Maybe he builds himself up He runs and does a good campaign in Iowa and he'll be able to challenge people like Warren and
00:52:35.000Another one where she had some notable answers.
00:52:39.000She got a lot of speaking time in there.
00:52:41.000She was, like Castro, one of the higher tier candidates, but still polling very low and hasn't really been the beneficiary of a lot of attention.
00:52:49.000I think Klobuchar and Castro will get a lot more attention as a result of the debate.
00:52:53.000Outside of that, you know, again, not so much in the way of really like coherent messaging.
00:52:58.000I thought her closing statement was pretty good.
00:53:03.000She's competent, she can pass legislation, and she's not establishment.
00:53:06.000I think those are three very strong selling points.
00:53:09.000Those are three things which Democrats are looking for.
00:53:12.000Not establishment, meaning maybe she's not the most progressive, but, you know, she is an outsider.
00:53:17.000Competent, meaning she can get legislation done.
00:53:20.000And electable, meaning that she can beat Donald Trump.
00:53:22.000These three things, I think, are the biggest priorities of Democrats.
00:53:25.000So I thought that was a very strong closing statement, a very good sort of pitch, a very good angle to go in on.
00:53:31.000Another person I think is eminently likable, you know, she has this reputation as somebody who is hard on her staff, you know, there's these stories, horror stories about how she abuses staffers and
00:53:42.000She ate a salad with a comb one time and you know, she does this goofy stuff.
00:53:47.000But I think that again, women are a core constituency in the Democratic Party.
00:53:51.000She having this pitch as a Midwestern relatable woman who's doing these idioms about beer, you know, it's all foam and no beer and
00:53:59.000You know, Old Dick, my uncle, or Old Dick, my... I forget what exactly the family member was, but Old Dick always used to go hunting and shooting, and we have to be mindful of that.
00:54:09.000I think she does have that charm, this Midwestern woman charm, which will appeal to a certain constituency in the Democratic Party, so I thought that was good for her.
00:55:37.000But Cory Booker, he had a strong performance in that sense that he had a lot of talking time and maybe was seen as more likable and he got his face out there.
00:55:45.000But on the other hand, this is a weakness.
00:56:42.000What I think, and my postulate about this, is that he has gotten so much backlash for a variety of things.
00:56:49.000Number one, there's rumors that he's like on drugs or there's something wrong with him because you look at him in his rallies and he's sort of bouncing off the walls.
00:56:59.000He comes off as a little bit too much.
00:57:01.000I think that was a big sentiment during the election and even after the midterms when he did that San Antonio counter rally to President Trump's rally.
00:57:13.000And so he's sort of seen as coked up, crazy, and so maybe he was trying to be more muted, he was trying to be more professional, trying to be more, uh, what would you say?
00:57:23.000What is the term that Donald Trump uses?
00:57:26.000More presidential or something like that by having a more muted and passive performance?
00:57:31.000On the other hand, it could be that he got beaten over the head by the progressives so hard for the white privilege stuff.
00:57:38.000You know, if you remember, he had this botched announcement for his campaign where he was on the cover of Vogue or one of the magazines, and he said, I'm born to be in the race, and he had his wife next to him during one of his videos or something, and he said something to the effect that, well, she
00:58:16.000He should have gone into this debate where, to me, there weren't really any clear leaders in the debate.
00:58:21.000As far as I'm concerned, with a couple of notable exceptions like Elizabeth Warren and Bill de Blasio, there weren't really any candidates that were willing to be bold and be out there and challenge other people and be in your face and be a personality, like I said, with a couple of exceptions.
01:00:02.000Or maybe she was, but it wasn't very strong.
01:00:04.000Her angle, whereas everybody's angle is a little bit different, you know, Elizabeth Warren is, I'm the fighter, or Tim Ryan, I'm the industrial Midwest guy, or whatever, Jay Inslee, I'm the climate change guy, and so on.
01:00:15.000Tulsi Gabbard's angle is, she's the foreign policy girl.
01:00:18.000She was a soldier, she's on the Foreign Relations Committee, or the Foreign Affairs Committee, and she's gonna take us out of the wars.
01:00:24.000She didn't really sell that in a very strong way, I don't believe.
01:01:03.000In 2020, it seemed to me the focus is a lot more on climate change, gun control,
01:01:08.000Health care, the economy, and foreign policy is really off to the side, mostly because with the president, things have gotten better as opposed to worse.
01:01:16.000I'm not saying, you know, we, you know how I feel about President Trump's performance on foreign policy.
01:01:23.000But you know, we've scaled down a lot of interventions.
01:01:25.000We have this detente with North Korea, and things have only recently flared up with Iran, so maybe it's circumstantial.
01:01:33.000That the foreign policy stuff just isn't as relevant as the other talking points, you know?
01:01:37.000Jay Inslee making climate change his thing is maybe a lot smarter, given what is important to Democrats, than Tulsi Gabbard making foreign policy her thing.
01:01:46.000But all of that notwithstanding, she should have come into this and been the outsider.
01:01:51.000She is a true, like, Democrat in terms of non-interventionist and on some of these other issues.
01:01:57.000She really had a lot of selling points.
01:01:58.000I didn't feel like she really sold herself in a way that was very strong or convincing.
01:02:03.000And she was really kind of absent from the debate.
01:02:05.000She only talked six times and, you know, Castro talked ten times and Booker talked eleven times.
01:02:12.000And so just to give you an idea of the numbers, she felt like notably absent from a lot of these exchanges.
01:02:20.000Also, she said in her closing statement, her closing statement she said that she wanted a new century.
01:02:27.000And I don't know man, that really rubbed me the wrong way.
01:02:29.000Maybe I'm like, maybe I'm paranoid, maybe I've just been doing this for too long, but she said it twice.
01:02:36.000She said my pitch, and I was trying to pay attention to all the closing statements to what's the phrase, what's the phrase that sums up the message, the angle, the pitch.
01:02:45.000And she said, well, we need a new century of peace and prosperity, a new century that's liberty and justice for all.
01:02:52.000I said, isn't that what Marco Rubio ran on?
01:02:54.000Did Marco Rubio talk about a new American century?
01:02:58.000And what, you know, what else is the new American century?
01:03:01.000Does anybody, does that ring a bell for anybody?
01:03:04.000Any sort of lobbying groups or, you know, things about Israel, the Israel lobby, something like that, you know?
01:03:09.000So that was a little bit troubling, which she may be signaling, hinting at.
01:03:13.000Well, I'm against foreign wars, but I'm not that against foreign wars.
01:03:16.000I don't know what that was all about, but sort of a notable thing.
01:03:19.000The other losers, I would say, would be Inslee and Delaney.
01:03:25.000And, you know, I don't know if they were really losers.
01:03:27.000They came into it not really expecting to gain much, and I think they didn't gain much, so it's really hard to say that everybody else was a loser.
01:03:34.000I feel like everybody else was a contestant.
01:03:37.000They tried, they knew it was a long shot, and they failed.
01:03:40.000You know, I don't feel like de Blasio did particularly well.
01:03:43.000He had a couple of good moments, but a couple of bad moments, and I don't feel like he really did himself many favors.
01:04:11.000I feel like in 16 it was a lot more about, well, back when I was a senator, when I was a governor, Donald Trump doesn't have the experience.
01:04:18.000Maybe because Trump was the frontrunner and he had no experience it was more relevant, but in this debate it didn't feel like that was a very strong selling point.
01:04:25.000And so a lot of those guys I think made failing arguments that didn't really compel people, didn't really push people in one direction or the other.
01:04:33.000So I don't know if they were losers so much as they just weren't competitive to begin with.
01:04:39.000I think that's gonna wrap it up for the debate analysis.
01:04:41.000Those are really all my thoughts on that.
01:04:43.000So with that we're gonna move into our
01:04:46.000Super chats, but before we do that's really our first debate.
01:04:49.000We're gonna be moving on remember tomorrow tomorrow.
01:04:52.000I'll be covering and we're not going anywhere I'm gonna do super chats, but I just do want to say before we completely move on that this was debate number one So this was like one half of the Democratic field.
01:05:02.000We've got ten more candidates debating tomorrow to me That'll be way more interesting than this one.
01:06:23.000I think Beto is basically out as a result of this.
01:06:25.000Gabbard I think is not, you know, she's not going to come close to competing.
01:06:29.000So those are my general takeaways, but
01:06:30.000With that, we're going to take a look at our Super Chats and we'll see what you guys are saying, we'll see what you guys feel about all this, where you're at.
01:06:37.000I feel like it's going to be a lot of people commenting on the general paused nature of the debate.
01:06:55.000Yeah, he started out, his first message of the whole debate was completely entirely in Spanish.
01:07:01.000And I just thought, that's just a sign of the times, you know?
01:07:03.000So, I don't think that was particularly effective.
01:07:06.000I think it was maybe more effective in the middle when he had a little bit of it by Booker and Castro.
01:07:11.000As myself, I thought it was obnoxious, but maybe to Democrats that's a big wow factor, but it just goes to show you could say goodbye to our country.
01:07:18.000It's over, you know, if that's what you see going on.
01:07:20.000But in any case, we'll take a look at these super chats.
01:07:23.000We've got really good comics who says, imagine a Beto O'Rourke seeking bullet flying across the stage.
01:07:29.000Imagina un Beto O'Rourke buscando una bala volando por el escenario.
01:07:36.000A little English and Spanish joke there.
01:08:24.000Fiesta says, when Lester Holt was about to read out a question from the audience, I half expected it to be a pee pee poo poo super chat.
01:08:30.000Yeah, I know you would think that because you're so used to getting bad questions.
01:08:35.000We're so used on this show to bad audience questions that you just defaulted that it was like a given that a bad question would be asked by the audience.
01:09:06.000They tried to rein him in, but our Aryan super soldier, the Eggman, he will tell you when he's done talking and not a moment sooner, right?
01:09:15.000Theo says what I have found most important is to listen.
01:10:19.000Look, there's kind of a notable thing about Tulsi Gabbard, which is one of my objections to her, and that's, I think, what it is at the end of the day.
01:10:27.000Jimbo says new intro is whack, but have a good night, big guy.
01:10:30.000Well, boomer detected, but have a good night.
01:10:33.000Marshall says, is Tulsi mommy or mommy?
01:11:31.000FF says, do you foresee there being any viable opportunities in the future for you to transition into a more prominent role on an established media platform?
01:13:01.000Yeah, there were some good, like, Nos Bowl moments where they said, you know, break up monopolies and target the 1% and go after corporations.
01:13:09.000I thought that was very based in Red Pill, but the Spanish stuff, the paused up stuff, very problematic.
01:13:15.000Pretty notable, though, that the winners, with a couple of exceptions, were all against identity politics.
01:13:21.000Elizabeth Warren didn't have a very charged racial message.
01:13:24.000Her message was purely ideological, which I thought was interesting and a selling point for her.
01:13:31.000Honk Honk says, hey big guy, it's your favorite US Army soldier again.
01:13:34.000I have top-secret classified information that the mean scary black man Mexican O'Rourke egghead and gay co-hosts are conspiring to bully mommy Yeah, I saw that.
01:16:58.000Why it's there's nothing on google about it but uh big if true i don't know if i would say r.i.p but uh whatever your mother says the whole debate sounded like a sam hyatt bit 2020 paradigm shift yeah not far off right ten benison says the best part of the debate was when comrade stalin machine gunned everybody in the room and declared himself generalissimo i wish that would happen honestly
01:17:19.000People are all against Stalinism, Nazbol, that kind of thing, the top left.
01:18:26.000They all had a weird look in their eye.
01:18:27.000There's definitely something up there.
01:18:29.000Prussian Monarchist says, Hey Nick, thoughts on nuclear energy would have spiced up the convo and actually has the power to do something rather than just pander to white girls crying over dead fish.
01:18:41.000If you're talking about nuclear, rather if you're talking about fossil fuels, clean energy, literally the only viable alternative that exists right now is nuclear.
01:19:06.000Fracking existed because it was very expensive for a long time, and it wasn't viable for a long time.
01:19:11.000But when oil prices went over $100 a barrel, suddenly it became viable.
01:19:16.000And as a result of big capital investments and big infrastructure investments, you were able to bring those costs down.
01:19:22.000As a result, oil prices go down, and it's a viable way to produce oil.
01:19:26.000You know, and so maybe if the same thing happened with green energy, you'd have green energy, but it isn't viable.
01:19:30.000Nobody's investing in it because it's not viable.
01:19:32.000You can't get a lot of energy out of solar or wind, and if you do, well then it's intermittent or it's dependent on location.
01:19:39.000I mean there's a lot of variables in there.
01:19:41.000So the only way to look at green energy is nuclear.
01:19:43.000That's the only way so far discovered to have clean, relatively clean, efficient energy that is, I guess, basically renewable in the way that you can sort of like harvest the rods that are used.
01:19:53.000And I'm not a scientist, but, you know, it is probably the most viable option.
01:19:57.000So it's interesting that nobody brought it up and they didn't bring it up because nobody wants nuclear power plants all over the country because, you know, you have terrorism and it's not exactly safe.
01:20:07.000For whatever reason, we fear that, but if you are going to propose that, that's the only viable way, so... I'd be interested in hearing a proposal about nuclear, but I didn't hear any of that.
01:20:16.000I heard a lot of gay, solar, wind, stuff that doesn't work, but anyway, thanks.
01:20:21.000Sherwood Baker with a huge super chat.
01:20:47.000You should be able to have a firearm at all stages of production, and definitely have up to and including the things that the government has, with a few notable exceptions.
01:21:32.000When we're allowed to do our own thing, we thrive.
01:21:34.000And, you know, take a look at this show.
01:21:37.000Relatively knock on wood haven't had any censorship problems, and I've been doing very well on the show You know we've gone from like having a hundred viewers per night to having like 2,000 viewers per night per night You know tonight.
01:21:48.000We had like 2,800 on YouTube on D live 66 66 6700 so it's very true.
01:21:55.000We do thrive because it's good content people like the content so
01:23:29.000And you see, I didn't antagonize dopey people.
01:23:32.000Come on this show, they say, I know you're a Catholic, I know you're this, and you're talking about something totally unrelated, but I'm going to attack your religion.
01:26:03.000Well, the funny thing is it was far less effective for Beto doing it for like 30 seconds and at the beginning than it was for Castro and Booker to do it for a much shorter amount of time in the middle.
01:26:18.000So, yeah, I think it's a lot of funny parts there.
01:27:32.000Maxie Stoneman says, not gonna lie Nick, I heard a lot of anti-semitic dog whistles in that debate.
01:27:38.000What do they mean by rich and powerful?
01:27:40.000Yeah, rich and powerful, consolidated corporations, chicken hawks, there are a lot of big anti-semitic expressions in there, a lot of anti-semitic tropes.
01:27:49.000So I think they'll have to apologize for that.
01:27:52.000Poopoo King, my man, says, hashtag Assad gang 2020.
01:29:10.000I've been talking so much oxygen has been cut off to my brain and I'm going all loopy mode on you, but it's so true.
01:29:16.000I'm the president of the bedroom and Tulsi Gabbard can be secretary of the milk department.
01:29:22.000She could be agriculture secretary, secretary of dairy in the Nick administration, but you know she could be president of other things, right?
01:29:32.000Let's see no good says look at Google Trends on Twitter Tulsi one huge I don't think that's true, but I'll double-check that Dan D says you're in the zone tonight big guy killing it.
01:32:38.000Warm, and a fresh ice cold glass of milk, and she patted you on the head.
01:32:44.000The feel when Tulsi Gabbard will never bring you a warm plate of cookies on a paper plate in an ice cold, in a glass plate in an ice cold glass of milk and she pats you on your head and she calls you hun?
01:33:04.000I like the oatmeal chocolate chip cookies and every time she makes plain chocolate chips, the ones I don't like, she has a special recipe,
01:33:12.000And every time, she's making cookies like every other week, and every time she makes the ones I don't like, and I go to eat one, and she's like, no, those are for my work.
01:37:25.000Billy Mays says, if you think that was bad, just imagine how many times he practiced that little monologue about having a black sun in the mirror last night.
01:37:32.000And you know he did that, too, which is pretty funny.
01:37:36.000Nitro Man says, wouldn't it be funny if we took a dump in the Large Hadron Collider and the Hadrons spread poo all over the tube?
01:43:27.000Statistically, the numbers are against you.
01:43:29.000Statistically, there always are people that change.
01:43:32.000There can, in theory, be people that change, but the numbers are against you.
01:43:36.000It's like you get to, I think you get past four premarital sexual partners, and it's like you flip a coin, and they'll cheat on you when you're married, or they won't.
01:43:45.000So, if you're okay with those odds, then, you know, by all means, but those are the odds.
01:43:49.000Those are not good odds, I don't believe.
01:43:52.000Stay six is take my money before it expires deal.
01:43:55.000I will take it James Russell says axios and drudge say so so check him if I'm wrong.
01:43:59.000No, it looks like you're right It looks like you're right, which I'm very shocked at because I don't know if you watch the debate But in my in my opinion, I saw that debate maybe Democrats maybe it's merely because Democrats hadn't heard of her before and I had heard of her so I heard her pitch and it was like
01:44:16.000To me, it seemed like it wasn't really there.
01:44:53.000Honk Honk says, Mommy Tulsi and Brittany Venti are gonna have a Roman-style gladiator match for who gets to give you cookie plates and heat pads, or head pads, he says.