America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - "Mind of Destiny" Turkey Tom Documentary

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00:13:17.000 Hey what's up everybody it's me Nick Fuentes back with another stream another afternoon rumble exclusive we have much to cover today a lot of a lot of different items for our consideration we're going to be going over

00:13:39.000 This Turkey Tom documentary about destiny.

00:13:44.000 It's like 2 hours 40 minutes.

00:13:46.000 I don't know if we're gonna watch the whole thing but it seems pretty interesting so we'll watch a lot of it.

00:13:54.000 We will be looking at this ADL article.

00:13:58.000 The ADL has striked back.

00:14:02.000 Struck back?

00:14:03.000 The ADL has clapped back.

00:14:06.000 After Candace Owens ate and left no crumbs, and I stand.

00:14:11.000 They wrote an article.

00:14:13.000 I did a stream two days ago.

00:14:16.000 Just two days ago.

00:14:18.000 Tuesday, I think.

00:14:20.000 Or Monday?

00:14:22.000 But I did a rumble stream about Candace Owens and her war. 0.98

00:14:27.000 Excuse me.

00:14:30.000 How she's trying to call out America fighting wars for Israel.

00:14:34.000 I'm not going to say her war against the Jews.

00:14:36.000 That's not going to do her any favors.

00:14:39.000 I just can't.

00:14:41.000 The problem is I have no filter.

00:14:43.000 I have been without a filter for so many years.

00:14:45.000 I've been banned from everything for years.

00:14:48.000 So I literally have no filter.

00:14:49.000 So I'll go on a stream and say, oh Candace Owens is at war with the Jews.

00:14:53.000 And then, okay, back to reality.

00:14:56.000 The ADL is like, Nick Fuentes said she's at war with the Jews.

00:14:59.000 That's probably not a good thing to say. 0.99

00:15:01.000 And I'm like, damn it. 0.99

00:15:06.000 Forgot people don't talk like that. 0.99

00:15:09.000 So, ADL did a big hit piece on Candace Owens because I liked her show.

00:15:15.000 I responded positively to her show and made some funny remarks.

00:15:21.000 So now they're attacking her for what I said!

00:15:23.000 I'm sorry.

00:15:26.000 I'm sorry, Candace.

00:15:29.000 I didn't mean to get you in trouble.

00:15:31.000 I'm sorry, Candace.

00:15:35.000 I didn't mean it.

00:15:36.000 I just tried to help.

00:15:39.000 Sorry.

00:15:41.000 So we'll go over that.

00:15:43.000 We'll go over this.

00:15:44.000 I saw this the other day.

00:15:46.000 We're cooked.

00:15:48.000 We are cooked, brother.

00:15:49.000 Look, this is our country. 1.00

00:15:51.000 Look at my... Look at my white race dog. 1.00

00:15:55.000 We are cooked. 1.00

00:15:59.000 Look at this.

00:16:01.000 So we'll go over that.

00:16:03.000 I went off last night about this on Telegram, which is crazy.

00:16:07.000 Dave Rubin disavows Candace Owens?

00:16:11.000 Don't burn our friendship!

00:16:13.000 What?

00:16:14.000 You wouldn't be my friend because we have an ideological disagreement?

00:16:20.000 I thought that you're a liberal and we could still be friends.

00:16:24.000 So, we'll talk about that. 0.98

00:16:27.000 And Kyle Rittenhouse just got raped yesterday. 0.99

00:16:30.000 Just ugly, brutal rape. 1.00

00:16:33.000 Candace Owens replied to the article. 0.94

00:16:36.000 We'll package these things up like this.

00:16:42.000 And it's going to be a good stream.

00:16:44.000 So check in.

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00:16:46.000 If you're in the live chat, say what's up.

00:16:48.000 Who's in the live chat today?

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00:16:52.000 If you're in the live chat, say hello now.

00:16:56.000 Let's see.

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00:17:49.000 What's up, guys?

00:17:50.000 Hello.

00:17:52.000 It's great to be with you.

00:17:55.000 I'm gonna take my medicine, though, live on stream.

00:18:02.000 Okay, I gotta prepare my water here.

00:18:04.000 I got Alka-Seltzer Plus and Vitamin C. So I'm gonna take my gum out.

00:18:22.000 And I will make the potion here.

00:18:29.000 Then we will start the stream.

00:18:30.000 I'm still sick.

00:18:31.000 I'm still under the weather.

00:18:32.000 I think I have strep throat or something.

00:18:34.000 Some kind of chest cold.

00:18:36.000 Let me drink a little bit.

00:18:44.000 I have this terrible chest cold.

00:18:47.000 It's not horrible, but it's enough where it's making me tired and stuff.

00:18:54.000 Man, that's giving me a lot of congestion, so I couldn't sleep last night.

00:19:01.000 You know, it's one of those... So it's not terrible, but it's just enough to be super annoying.

00:19:06.000 Hopefully I'll be better by next week.

00:19:11.000 I was gonna do a show last night but you know I went on Vince's stream and I was only supposed to be on there for 20 minutes I wound up being on there an hour and then by the end of the stream I was like I want to go to bed I'm exhausted so I was gonna do a show but then I cancelled it because I didn't feel like it okay

00:19:34.000 I was sleepy.

00:19:35.000 But you're gonna get your money's worth.

00:19:37.000 Not that most of you even send the superchats.

00:19:40.000 It's really a small fraction.

00:19:41.000 But you'll get content today.

00:19:43.000 Because it's gonna be a long stream.

00:19:45.000 I'm locked in.

00:19:49.000 Taking my medicine.

00:19:51.000 Like a big boy.

00:19:56.000 So we will be... So we're gonna do it.

00:20:01.000 It's gonna be a lot of fun.

00:20:02.000 Alright!

00:20:02.000 Okay!

00:20:05.000 Also, hey, tell me though, what do you want to see today?

00:20:08.000 Would you rather watch... There's two Destiny streams. 0.83

00:20:13.000 There's a Destiny stream with Turkey Tom.

00:20:16.000 And there's a Destiny stream with Jordan Peterson.

00:20:21.000 This one.

00:20:24.000 So, which one do you want to watch?

00:20:27.000 Press 1 if you want to watch Turkey Tom.

00:20:31.000 Press 2 if you want to watch Jordan Peterson.

00:20:35.000 One for Turkey Tom, two for Jordan Peterson.

00:20:40.000 I'll probably watch a little bit of both, but, you know, let me know which one you want me to spend more time on.

00:20:48.000 Pretty mixed, but I'm seeing a lot of ones.

00:20:57.000 Hmm.

00:21:00.000 Pretty mixed.

00:21:01.000 Alright, I'll do a little of both, okay?

00:21:03.000 Alright.

00:21:05.000 But let me let me take a sip of this.

00:21:07.000 I'm already dying.

00:21:13.000 Okay, that wasn't fully dissolved yet.

00:21:17.000 So I just got a huge chunk of Alka-Seltzer.

00:21:35.000 Okay, so let's start with this.

00:21:43.000 First of all, it's weird.

00:21:44.000 Candace Owens hasn't streamed in two days.

00:21:48.000 What's going on with that?

00:21:50.000 Does anybody know why she hasn't streamed in two days?

00:21:55.000 Because three days ago, she did her big debate with the rabbi, where she wiped the floor with him.

00:22:04.000 And she's really just at odds with the Jewish community now.

00:22:08.000 And I don't want to describe it that way because I don't want to get her in trouble, but that's just what it is.

00:22:13.000 She's at war with Rabbi Shmuley, Rabbi Barkley, Dave Rubin, ADL.

00:22:20.000 And that's the nature of it.

00:22:22.000 You can't dip your toe in this world.

00:22:28.000 And what I mean by that is, my entire life,

00:22:34.000 This has defined my adult life.

00:22:35.000 This has defined my career. 1.00

00:22:37.000 Because I talk about Jewish power. 0.99

00:22:39.000 I talk about the Jewish lobby. 0.90

00:22:40.000 I talk about the Israel lobby.

00:22:43.000 And the thing is, there is no degree of how public you are about it.

00:22:50.000 There's no degree of how fanatical you are about it. 0.83

00:22:54.000 If you are not absolutely subordinated to the Jewish lobby, it's a full-spectrum attack on you. 0.90

00:23:02.000 Full spectrum war by the whole Jewish community. 0.57

00:23:08.000 And what I mean by that is, if Candace Owens goes out and implies, like she did five or four months ago, that the Palestinians are victims too, you can see how this has now snowballed.

00:23:23.000 Candace Owens, I think she said after the aftermath of October 7th, she said, well, I'm against genocide, period.

00:23:32.000 I don't like seeing Palestinian children killed.

00:23:34.000 I don't like seeing Israelis killed. 0.62

00:23:37.000 That remark has now snowballed into what this is now.

00:23:43.000 And you could go back even a year before where she didn't disavow Kanye.

00:23:49.000 She didn't support everything he said.

00:23:51.000 She didn't even support him outright.

00:23:54.000 She said, well, he didn't say kill all Jews or something like that.

00:23:58.000 It was like the most tepid defense, although that was a big deal given the gravity of what he was saying at the time.

00:24:06.000 So you could even go back further, but this latest saga really starts just

00:24:13.000 Four or five months ago when she said, well, I don't think Palestinian children should be killed.

00:24:18.000 I don't think Israelis should be killed.

00:24:20.000 And that's how it started. 1.00

00:24:22.000 This latest part.

00:24:25.000 And then Ben Shapiro goes to a party and says Candace Owens needs to shut up about Palestine. 0.65

00:24:31.000 She's a faux sophisticated. 0.83

00:24:33.000 She doesn't know what she's talking about.

00:24:36.000 Huge debacle with Shapiro.

00:24:38.000 So she goes on Tucker and she clarifies the remarks.

00:24:41.000 And she says, you know, listen Tucker, of course what happened on October 7th was a tragedy, but it's a tragedy when innocent Palestinians die too. 0.87

00:24:51.000 She goes on maternity leave for a couple months. 0.81

00:24:53.000 She comes back.

00:24:55.000 And she says, hey, pornography is a scourge, and we have to look at who's running the porn industry. 1.00

00:25:02.000 Oh, the Jews attack her. 0.99

00:25:03.000 They say, oh, this is anti-Semitic, because Jews run the porn industry. 0.98

00:25:08.000 Then Rabbi Shmuley comes and attacks her. 0.90

00:25:11.000 Then Rabbi Barkley comes and attacks her.

00:25:13.000 Then Dave Rubin says they're not friends anymore.

00:25:16.000 Then the ADL comes after her.

00:25:19.000 Mediaite comes after her.

00:25:22.000 And all she said at the beginning, she's not as extreme as me.

00:25:27.000 She hasn't said a fraction of what I said.

00:25:29.000 Not a fraction.

00:25:31.000 Not a quarter.

00:25:32.000 Not a tenth.

00:25:34.000 She has not said a small fraction of what I've said.

00:25:38.000 She doesn't... I don't know what she believes, but I don't think she believes a fraction of what I believe on this subject.

00:25:45.000 All she said was, it's a tragedy when the Palestinians die also.

00:25:51.000 And it snowballs.

00:25:52.000 And that's because, as I said, you could be as public about it as you want.

00:25:56.000 You could be as measured in your remarks.

00:25:59.000 You could be as moderate as possible.

00:26:01.000 You could give the most conservative position on this.

00:26:04.000 And by conservative, I don't mean, like, ideologically conservative.

00:26:09.000 I mean the most cautious.

00:26:13.000 Like, you could say, for example, at the minimum, they shouldn't get foreign aid.

00:26:16.000 Or, you know, Palestinians shouldn't die. 0.93

00:26:20.000 At the minimum, you could say the minimal thing and it will inevitably snowball because what they're after is capitulation. 0.74

00:26:28.000 If you're in private saying this stuff, they need you to stop.

00:26:31.000 If you're in public saying it, even a little bit, they need you to stop.

00:26:35.000 If you don't stop, they just escalate the attacks. 0.62

00:26:40.000 If you go out and say there's an equivalency between Israelis and Palestinians, they say, oh, well, maybe she doesn't understand. 0.98

00:26:48.000 But you take it back, right?

00:26:51.000 And she goes, well, no, I'm not going to take it back. 1.00

00:26:53.000 And then they go, well, you're a fucking idiot, and you're an anti-Semite. 1.00

00:26:57.000 And she goes, well, no, I'm not an anti-Semite, and I'm not an idiot. 1.00

00:27:01.000 Like, I'm entitled to my opinion. 0.90

00:27:03.000 So then the rabbis come in.

00:27:05.000 Candace Owens, horrible anti-subite. 1.00

00:27:07.000 She's been in this pattern of behavior for years.

00:27:11.000 And so it's this escalation.

00:27:13.000 If you don't back down, they escalate the attacks.

00:27:16.000 If you defend yourself, they escalate the attacks.

00:27:19.000 If you defend yourself from those successive attacks, they escalate the attacks.

00:27:24.000 And it widens and intensifies over time.

00:27:28.000 So, anyway, so she does this debate a few days ago, then she puts out a show, this is just a clip, she puts out a show two days ago, and says, why does everyone think I'm gonna be killed?

00:27:40.000 She hasn't done a show since this show!

00:27:45.000 And in this one, she goes over her whole career and says, well, these are all the naughty things I've ever said, and I'm really not a bad person, and I'm just trying to... I'm gonna stand with God.

00:27:55.000 I'm team God.

00:27:56.000 I'm just gonna tell the truth. 0.92

00:27:57.000 I'm tired of lying about Israel or kowtowing. 0.69

00:28:03.000 And she hasn't done a show in two days!

00:28:14.000 So where is she?

00:28:16.000 Where's Candace? 1.00

00:28:18.000 Where's Hunter?

00:28:21.000 Honestly, I think she's in on it.

00:28:24.000 You know, the more I'm saying it, the more I'm realizing this is just a diversion from Hunter's laptop.

00:28:30.000 I think this whole thing, now that I'm thinking about it, this is all a distraction and she's in on it.

00:28:37.000 They don't want us to talk about the laptop from hell. 0.62

00:28:41.000 They want us to talk about how Israel killed JFK.

00:28:45.000 They want us to talk about how Israel did 9-11. 0.99

00:28:48.000 They want us to talk about how there's unholy rabbis selling butt plugs with their daughters. 0.97

00:28:54.000 Anything to divide us and keep us off the subject of the laptop from hell and fake news CNN. 0.82

00:29:03.000 No, I'm kidding of course.

00:29:05.000 So anyway, she hasn't done a show in a couple days.

00:29:07.000 I was gonna watch it yesterday or today, but she hasn't done one.

00:29:15.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, where do we- And it's supposed to be a daily show, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m.

00:29:20.000 Central Time.

00:29:24.000 Very strange.

00:29:25.000 Where's Canvas?

00:29:26.000 Anyway.

00:29:28.000 So, then, I did a review of her stream a couple days ago.

00:29:33.000 Excuse me, I was very positive about it.

00:29:37.000 And the ADL publishes an article from Media Matters about it.

00:29:44.000 So it's Media Matters, ADL, Mediaite, they're all working together.

00:29:49.000 It's not a conspiracy, though.

00:29:51.000 ADL, Mediaite, and Media Matters, which are all different groups, they're all working together, but there's no conspiracy here.

00:29:59.000 Even though, by definition, that's what it is.

00:30:02.000 ADL tweets today, White supremacist and holocaust denier Nick Fuentes is praising Candace Owens' vitriolic anti-semitism.

00:30:12.000 It's hardly surprising.

00:30:14.000 But it does set off alarm bells.

00:30:16.000 When bigoted people come together to push an anti-semitic agenda, it adds fuel to the fire of hate. 0.98

00:30:24.000 What the fuck does that even mean? 0.99

00:30:25.000 What the fuck does that even mean? 1.00

00:30:29.000 When racists come together to be racist, it adds fuel to the fire of racism. 0.99

00:30:35.000 This is great writing.

00:30:38.000 Remember, Jews are so powerful because they're smart, because of their high verbal IQ.

00:30:42.000 And this is really well written.

00:30:44.000 Anyway, so this is Media Matters.

00:30:48.000 It says Candace Owens has been singling out Jewish people for attack in recent weeks. 0.97

00:30:52.000 She recently liked a post that asked a rabbi she is feuding with whether he is drunk on Christian blood. 0.95

00:30:58.000 She also said that there is a Jewish gang in Hollywood committing horrific things, suggested Jews are going to be blamed if TikTok is banned because they're responsible, and railed against DC Jews and rot. 0.99

00:31:13.000 Rotten in the Jewish community. 0.96

00:31:17.000 This is part of a long-standing pattern from Owens.

00:31:20.000 She previously defended her friend, the rapper Kanye Ye West, after he posted that he would go DEF CON 3 on Jewish people, saying, if you're an honest person, you did not think this tweet was anti-Semitic.

00:31:34.000 In 2019, she said, if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run, and have things run well, okay, fine, I have no problems with nationalism.

00:31:45.000 Which, by the way, once you're on their list, every time they write about you, they just give the greatest hits. 0.66

00:31:52.000 It doesn't matter who you are.

00:31:53.000 Like I said, this is just how it works.

00:31:56.000 If you are branded an anti-Semite, if that label is given to you, then anytime anyone writes an article about you, you get the preamble.

00:32:06.000 Where, before they can say a word about you, they have to go through every naughty thing you've ever said. 0.51

00:32:14.000 Candace Owens, who one time, who five years ago said if Hitler wanted to just make Germany great, well fine.

00:32:25.000 And then they can begin the real story, right? 0.81

00:32:28.000 But that's how this works.

00:32:29.000 It's literally they're merchants of smear.

00:32:33.000 And not just because, you know, merchant is an anti-semitic trope.

00:32:38.000 But because they truly traffic in libelous rumors.

00:32:42.000 They truly traffic in labels and slander.

00:32:46.000 And it is a racket.

00:32:47.000 It is like a protection racket.

00:32:50.000 Like that's how the mafia works.

00:32:53.000 Where the mafia comes to your business and says, hey, you need to pay us every week or every month, otherwise we will blow up your business.

00:33:04.000 And so everyone pays their

00:33:07.000 We're good to go.

00:33:30.000 You know, you'll get Media Matters, Mediaite, ADL, SPLC.

00:33:34.000 They will collect, they will literally hire people to watch everything you do.

00:33:38.000 Collect every bad thing you've ever said.

00:33:42.000 No matter how out of context, no matter how bad faith or disingenuous, they will take it, they will write reports about it, they will compile the reports that they have made, and then every time a mainstream outlet writes an article about you, like, you know, New York Times or whatever, they will borrow from Media Matters, SPLC, and that's what they'll put in the lead.

00:34:03.000 And that's how they, that is how they put a scarlet letter on your name.

00:34:08.000 So that anytime anyone hears about you, reads about you, sees you on TV, it's Candace Owens, who five years ago said this.

00:34:17.000 Candace Owens, who two years ago defended Kanye.

00:34:19.000 Candace Owens, who tweeted this, who liked to tweet one time, that said this.

00:34:27.000 And that goes on in perpetuity.

00:34:29.000 Until she apologizes.

00:34:32.000 So for years, people will be conditioned to hear, white supremacist Candace Owens, anti-Semite Candace Owens, who one time said blah blah blah.

00:34:41.000 Well today she did this, or today she did that. 0.99

00:34:45.000 That's how it works.

00:34:46.000 That's how they get ya.

00:34:48.000 And that's how they delegitimize any voice that is not pro-Israel.

00:34:54.000 Someone said she was on The Breakfast Club today? 0.55

00:34:57.000 Okay, I'll watch that.

00:34:58.000 If it's good, I mean, we'll see.

00:35:03.000 Is it worth watching? 0.99

00:35:04.000 Wake that ass up! 1.00

00:35:05.000 We'll watch that in a minute, maybe. 0.98

00:35:06.000 Anyway, so, this is the article.

00:35:21.000 It says, uh, Owen's commentary caught the attention of notorious anti-Semite Nick Fuentes, who said on his show that she has been in a full-fledged war against the Jews.

00:35:31.000 Fuentes is a white su- I like, by the way, how I'm literally praising a black person, and they call me a white supremacist.

00:35:38.000 I'm literally on Team Black Girl, and they're like, well, but Black Girl has a white supremacist supporting her. 0.92

00:35:46.000 She's black! 1.00

00:35:46.000 How am I a white supremacist if I'm like, I love this person, she's a hero, she's sacrificing a lot, she has my admiration? 1.00

00:35:58.000 How many black people do you have to support before they stop calling you a white supremacist?

00:36:05.000 Fuentes is a white supremacist leader who attended the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, called for a white uprising to install Trump as a dictator. 1.00

00:36:13.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

00:36:15.000 Generated a lengthy list of bigoted statements, including his recent exhortation for Jews to get out of America. 1.00

00:36:22.000 He is also a Holocaust denier.

00:36:26.000 Goated resume, by the way.

00:36:28.000 Goated resume.

00:36:29.000 Put that on my LinkedIn.

00:36:32.000 In November, just days after announcing his 2024 run for president, former President Trump dined with Ye and Nick Fuentes.

00:36:40.000 A sampling of his praise for Owens is found below.

00:36:43.000 Candace Owens has been on a tear lately. 0.71

00:36:46.000 She has been in a full-fledged war against the Jews.

00:36:49.000 She's gone full 88. 0.85

00:36:51.000 This is the face of total Jewish defeat. 1.00

00:36:53.000 She won. 1.00

00:36:55.000 I love that. 1.00

00:36:55.000 I love how all the Jews have to watch this show. 1.00

00:36:58.000 This is the face. 1.00

00:36:59.000 No, but this is the face of a total Jewish defeat. 1.00

00:37:02.000 We have to stand! 1.00

00:37:03.000 Go off, girly! 1.00

00:37:04.000 We fucking got your back, Candace. 1.00

00:37:06.000 Eat them up. 1.00

00:37:06.000 They're filth. 1.00

00:37:09.000 It's very striking.

00:37:11.000 Striking appearance.

00:37:12.000 I love it.

00:37:12.000 Ben Shapiro has to watch this.

00:37:14.000 You see a face like mine looking down.

00:37:16.000 Yeah, she's eating.

00:37:18.000 I love how the intro is so generic, but she's going full 1488.

00:37:23.000 She's going, well no, she's really going more full 88.

00:37:28.000 Bruh, it's a joke.

00:37:29.000 Bruh, chill out.

00:37:32.000 It was a joke.

00:37:33.000 Relax.

00:37:37.000 Oh, I said it.

00:37:38.000 So I guess I said all that.

00:37:42.000 And I got Candace in trouble, which was not my intention.

00:37:46.000 Candace tweets, I do not know him.

00:37:48.000 Oh! 0.60

00:37:51.000 Ouch.

00:37:55.000 Why, Candace? 1.00

00:37:57.000 I understand.

00:37:58.000 You have to do what you have to do.

00:38:01.000 But it hurts me.

00:38:02.000 She doesn't even know I exist.

00:38:05.000 She's so perfect and she doesn't even know I exist.

00:38:13.000 Every day I stand by her locker and I wait for her.

00:38:20.000 She's the most popular girl in school and she doesn't even know I exist.

00:38:23.000 She doesn't even know who I am. 0.99

00:38:34.000 I'm such a fucking incel, guys. 0.99

00:38:38.000 Why? 0.99

00:38:39.000 I just can't get the girl! 0.99

00:38:46.000 What's wrong with me?

00:38:47.000 I mean, I'm the Supreme Gentleman. 1.00

00:38:49.000 I mean, why don't girls like that? 1.00

00:38:58.000 I mean, I'm the Supreme Gentleman.

00:39:02.000 Anyway, she says... She says, I do not know him.

00:39:10.000 I do not know Nick Fuentes.

00:39:13.000 Who is that incel?

00:39:14.000 Never heard of him. 0.83

00:39:16.000 But you already know that.

00:39:18.000 What I do know is that everyone can see what you guys are doing to me.

00:39:21.000 Your pattern is well established and the world is waking up to it! 1.00

00:39:25.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

00:39:27.000 Go off. 1.00

00:39:29.000 My crime is having stood up for myself against your network of smears.

00:39:34.000 My crime is that I do not believe the American taxpayer should pay for Israel's wars or the wars of any country.

00:39:41.000 I will not change my mind. 0.86

00:39:43.000 Question is, what will you do to me next?

00:39:46.000 The world is watching. 1.00

00:39:50.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

00:39:53.000 Bad ass. 1.00

00:39:55.000 She dared them. 0.99

00:39:57.000 She said, pull up. 0.95

00:40:00.000 And Chief Trumpster made this sick.

00:40:02.000 Hollywood is running America.

00:40:03.000 And someone's at it. 0.96

00:40:09.000 We're being run by people that are satanic. 0.99

00:40:11.000 Hollywood is satanic. 0.99

00:40:12.000 And Hollywood is running America. 0.96

00:40:13.000 Right.

00:40:14.000 So you're not wrong.

00:40:15.000 But I think that right now, America is facing a spiritual battle.

00:40:19.000 And for the first time in a very long time, Christians are starting to stand up and speak about our principles.

00:40:25.000 I am team God.

00:40:28.000 I'm team God.

00:40:30.000 I do not fear the media.

00:40:32.000 I do not fear journalists.

00:40:33.000 I do not fear AIPAC.

00:40:34.000 I don't fear Big Pharma.

00:40:36.000 What I actually fear is God.

00:40:40.000 I think that one day we are all going to have to account for the things that we have done and the things that we have said and I want to make sure that I am NOT a person that is parroting lies.

00:40:51.000 Not loving the song, though.

00:40:56.000 I'm not loving this, like... What is that?

00:41:01.000 Like, uh... It's like, I love rock and roll.

00:41:04.000 Not digging the song, but the clips are good.

00:41:07.000 Dude, what is this?

00:41:10.000 Okay, that's very subtle.

00:41:13.000 Make it a little bit less subtle.

00:41:15.000 I can't... I don't really know what they mean here.

00:41:18.000 Yeah, I feel like I'm not really getting the full point.

00:41:22.000 I think this might be a little bit too subtle.

00:41:25.000 It's an Israeli flag holding a gun next to a baby's head. 0.91

00:41:29.000 Yeah, okay. 0.68

00:41:31.000 That's a little over the top, I think.

00:41:34.000 But the replies are all positive.

00:41:37.000 We got a Chief Trumpster at it, Classics, Groik.

00:41:40.000 We stand with you, Candace O.

00:41:43.000 Spexos says, Nick Fuentes is a great, excuse me, great guy.

00:41:47.000 Thank you, man.

00:41:47.000 Appreciate you.

00:41:50.000 Only Nick Fuentes can answer that question for your audience.

00:41:54.000 Hiccup?

00:41:55.000 True.

00:41:56.000 Barry Stanton interviewed Nick Fuentes.

00:41:59.000 W. What else?

00:42:05.000 Where's Keith?

00:42:06.000 I thought Keith replied.

00:42:07.000 They must have suppressed it.

00:42:18.000 Where's the Woodsian reply?

00:42:21.000 Oh, it's in this one.

00:42:24.000 Keith Woods.

00:42:25.000 Don't back down, Candace.

00:42:27.000 We all support you against the smears of Jewish supremacists.

00:42:30.000 Okay, nothing about me, though? 1.00

00:42:31.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:42:33.000 Nah, it's okay, though. 1.00

00:42:34.000 W. Candace.

00:42:37.000 And then we got the edit again.

00:42:38.000 You stood up against filth!

00:42:40.000 I know Nick Fuentes.

00:42:41.000 He's nice.

00:42:42.000 You are great.

00:42:43.000 So is Nick.

00:42:43.000 End of story.

00:42:44.000 W. Lupus.

00:42:45.000 Dr. Lupus, we love you.

00:42:48.000 We stand Dr. Lupus, Queen.

00:42:52.000 Candace, does anyone in the Daily Wire speak out publicly to defend you?

00:42:55.000 The public is with you, but do they have your back?

00:42:57.000 You should interview Nick Fuentes, by the way.

00:42:59.000 Facts.

00:43:02.000 Anyway.

00:43:05.000 So that's that.

00:43:07.000 What else?

00:43:07.000 Then Dave Rubin, get this, Dave Rubin comes out and says he doesn't consider Candace Owens a friend anymore.

00:43:14.000 Listen to this.

00:43:16.000 I think she's a little confused about some of the things, but I think, uh, well, I hope you heard the overriding part, which is that I don't want to make it personal with her.

00:43:23.000 I don't really consider us friends anymore.

00:43:26.000 Um, but that's just like the nature of the reality of the thing that we're all in.

00:43:30.000 I think she's a little confused.

00:43:33.000 The what?

00:43:34.000 That's the nature of the reality of the thing we're all in?

00:43:38.000 Can you be more specific?

00:43:40.000 What is the thing we're all in?

00:43:42.000 Earth?

00:43:43.000 That's the nature of the reality of the thing we're in?

00:43:48.000 Earth?

00:43:49.000 Florida?

00:43:50.000 What are you talking about?

00:43:51.000 Why? 1.00

00:43:52.000 Look at this gay Jew. 1.00

00:44:08.000 By the way, Dave Rubin literally made his career for the last seven years saying, hey I'm a liberal but I'm willing to talk to conservatives. 1.00

00:44:20.000 We may disagree ideologically but we can still be, we can still talk and we can still have dialogue.

00:44:27.000 But now he's unfriending Candace Owens.

00:44:29.000 Why?

00:44:30.000 What exactly did she say that now they're no longer friends?

00:44:34.000 His book!

00:44:36.000 It's literally, don't burn this book.

00:44:41.000 Let's read the synopsis.

00:44:46.000 Don't burn this book by Dave Rubin.

00:44:49.000 Thinking for yourself in an age of unreason.

00:44:54.000 The left is no longer liberal.

00:44:56.000 Once on the side of free speech and tolerance, progressive now banned speakers from campuses, cancelled people who aren't up to date on the latest genders, and forced religious people to violate their conscience.

00:45:08.000 They have abandoned the battle of ideas and begun fighting a battle of feelings.

00:45:13.000 This uncomfortable truth has turned moderates and true liberals into the politically homeless class.

00:45:20.000 Rubin gives you the tools you need to think for yourself in an age when tribal outrage, tribal outrage by the way, a little on the nose, tribal outrage is the only alternative.

00:45:34.000 He launched his political show as a meeting ground for free thinkers who realize that partisan politics is a dead end.

00:45:40.000 He hosts people he both agrees and disagrees with, including those who have been dismissed, deplatformed, and despised, taking on the most controversial issues of our day. 0.99

00:45:51.000 So you're just a giant hypocrite. 1.00

00:45:52.000 You're just the biggest hypocrite in the world then. 1.00

00:45:56.000 Are you not? 1.00

00:46:01.000 Because according to you, we're supposed to platform people that disagree with us and we're supposed to

00:46:13.000 Reintegrate people that have been cancelled and we're supposed to be able to speak freely about the most controversial issues?

00:46:21.000 Yeah, except for one.

00:46:23.000 Clearly.

00:46:24.000 Except for one issue.

00:46:29.000 So, I guess he's not part of the liberal tribe.

00:46:32.000 He is part of a different tribe though.

00:46:34.000 He's Jewish. 0.99

00:46:41.000 Dave Rubin is a gay Jew with a spray tan. 1.00

00:46:45.000 The guy's like 60 years old, but he's got hair dye and plastic surgery and a spray tan to make himself look young, because that's what all those people are about. 1.00

00:46:58.000 Are you not the big... What a fucking joke. 1.00

00:47:00.000 Are you not the biggest joke, the biggest hypocrite in the world? 1.00

00:47:04.000 Everybody knows that's his brand. 1.00

00:47:06.000 Everybody knows that's what he's about.

00:47:09.000 Woah, woah, hey man!

00:47:11.000 Don't burn this book!

00:47:12.000 Let's just have a conversation!

00:47:14.000 Oh wait, what?

00:47:14.000 You're against Israel?

00:47:16.000 Well, we're not friends, and I will never have you on my show, and you're cancelled.

00:47:23.000 Okay.

00:47:26.000 So, free speech for me, but not for thee, right?

00:47:31.000 Or it's the reverse?

00:47:33.000 What a joke.

00:47:36.000 Nobody should ever, ever take Dave Rubin seriously ever again after this.

00:47:44.000 Because that's his whole brand.

00:47:45.000 It's not like that's one part of it. 1.00

00:47:47.000 I know it's pretty asinine and stupid, but that's his whole brand. 0.99

00:47:54.000 As I'm a liberal, but I'll talk to people that are canceled. 1.00

00:47:57.000 I'm a liberal, but I'm not part of that partisan tribalism.

00:48:01.000 Okay, but you are part of a different tribalism. 0.96

00:48:05.000 If a Christian wants to speak out about Palestine, then you won't talk to them.

00:48:10.000 If a partisan disagrees about a controversial subject like Israel, then you won't talk to them.

00:48:16.000 You won't even be friends with them.

00:48:19.000 So... You have no credibility. 1.00

00:48:25.000 You're a completely ridiculous person. 1.00

00:48:28.000 Complete hypocrite. 1.00

00:48:31.000 Who will you talk to then? 1.00

00:48:32.000 Only Zionists? 1.00

00:48:33.000 You'll only talk to what? 0.98

00:48:34.000 Other Jews?

00:48:36.000 Other Jews or other people that support Israel and that's it? 0.62

00:48:39.000 So, you can be a socialist or a capitalist as long as you support Israel.

00:48:45.000 You could be pro-gay adoption like he is, or against it, as long as you support Israel.

00:48:53.000 But you can't not support Israel. 0.98

00:48:58.000 Insane. 0.99

00:49:00.000 But that's what I've been saying for years. 1.00

00:49:02.000 You know, this guy is a sick, disgusting human being. 1.00

00:49:07.000 This is a sick, disgusting, vile human being. 1.00

00:49:11.000 Want to know why? 1.00

00:49:13.000 Not only has he embraced a gay lifestyle and gotten gay married to another man, which would be bad enough, but he has also created a child through surrogacy. 1.00

00:49:25.000 To adopt into his fake family built on gay sex. 0.99

00:49:30.000 So not only has he completely embraced an unnatural lifestyle and surrendered to it and created a sham of a marriage with another man that's based on sodomy, but also 0.99

00:49:44.000 He has inseminated a woman, probably artificially, and created a child, brought a human being into existence with the intention of depriving that child of its biological mother so that he can raise it in his household of sodomy with his husband, with his anal partner. 0.97

00:50:05.000 Who's the top and who's the bottom? 0.96

00:50:08.000 Is that how the kids are going to refer to the parents?

00:50:10.000 You know, because in a normal household, you'd say, Mom, Dad.

00:50:14.000 You know, Mom is the, is one with the eggs. 1.00

00:50:20.000 Dad is one with the seed, with the fertilizer.

00:50:24.000 Mom, Dad.

00:50:26.000 What do you call it in the, are the kids going to say, top, bottom?

00:50:31.000 Which one's the girl in the relationship? 0.86

00:50:33.000 Which one's taking it?

00:50:34.000 I know that sounds vulgar. 0.59

00:50:36.000 I know that's extremely graphic and disgusting and vulgar.

00:50:39.000 But that's his life.

00:50:41.000 That's his life.

00:50:42.000 And that's the life of his kids.

00:50:44.000 I know.

00:50:45.000 It sounds gross when I say it.

00:50:47.000 They live it.

00:50:48.000 They live it.

00:50:49.000 They think this should be the law of the land.

00:50:51.000 They think this should be permitted in the culture.

00:50:53.000 That's fine. 1.00

00:50:54.000 As long as you support fucking Israel, right? 1.00

00:50:57.000 As long as you're pro-Israel, as long as you're pro-Jew, 1.00

00:51:01.000 As long as you're pro these people that hate Jesus Christ, that's all fine. 0.91

00:51:06.000 That lifestyle. 1.00

00:51:08.000 Sick, disgusting, pervert, Christ-hater, and a hypocrite. 1.00

00:51:15.000 His whole life is a lie. 1.00

00:51:17.000 And by the way,

00:51:19.000 He exists for a very specific reason.

00:51:22.000 He exists to control the frame of debate.

00:51:26.000 If Dave Rubin is the platform where all the debate happens but anti-Zionists, anti-Semites not welcome, well there's your restriction on what's allowed to be said.

00:51:39.000 Everything's up for debate, except for support for Israel.

00:51:42.000 Everything's up for debate, except for whether Jews control America. 0.83

00:51:46.000 Everything's up for debate, except for the fact that Jews reject the Lord Jesus Christ. 0.80

00:51:53.000 We could debate socialism. 1.00

00:51:55.000 We could debate whether you can have kids in a house full of sodomy. 1.00

00:51:59.000 We can debate all that.

00:52:00.000 Oh, it's all up for debate.

00:52:01.000 Hey, say what you want.

00:52:03.000 Believe what you like.

00:52:05.000 Anything goes here.

00:52:05.000 Just don't criticize Jews.

00:52:08.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:52:10.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:52:12.000 What a joke. 1.00

00:52:14.000 People that buy into this stuff are stupid. 1.00

00:52:16.000 You buy into this? 1.00

00:52:18.000 You are stupid. 1.00

00:52:19.000 You are gullible. 1.00

00:52:20.000 How could people not see this?

00:52:22.000 Don't burn this book!

00:52:24.000 Don't burn this book!

00:52:25.000 Think for yourself!

00:52:28.000 But someone's not- doesn't support Israel and Jews?

00:52:30.000 A little confused about some of the things, but I think- Oh, we're not friends. 0.67

00:52:34.000 Well, I hope you heard the overriding part, which is that I don't want to make it personal with her.

00:52:37.000 I don't really consider us friends anymore.

00:52:39.000 Oh, we're not- Oh, we're not friends anymore.

00:52:42.000 Oy vey, we're not friends anymore. 1.00

00:52:46.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:52:48.000 Disgusting pervert. 1.00

00:52:51.000 These people are sick. 1.00

00:52:55.000 I just can't. 1.00

00:52:56.000 The level of hypocrisy, the level of deception, once you see it, you can't unsee it.

00:53:02.000 And you will be repulsed. 0.99

00:53:06.000 Your career is a lie. 0.99

00:53:08.000 Your entire career is a lie. 1.00

00:53:11.000 This guy goes around and pretends to be white. 1.00

00:53:14.000 Oh, look at me!

00:53:15.000 I'm just a white liberal guy!

00:53:16.000 Let's just have a conversation! 1.00

00:53:18.000 Actually is an extreme Jew, and he's gone around and tried to get people cancelled. 1.00

00:53:23.000 He has gone around and called people and tried to get guys like Elijah Schaefer and others cancelled, because they spoke out. 0.92

00:53:31.000 So this guy's not only... he's not just passively

00:53:35.000 In favor of cancel culture?

00:53:36.000 He's actively a part of it. 0.66

00:53:38.000 If you don't support Israel, he will call your boss and try to get you fired.

00:53:44.000 This is the guy that wrote, don't burn this book!

00:53:46.000 What if that book is the Israel lobby?

00:53:56.000 And look at, I mean, just no shame.

00:53:58.000 There's no shame, there's no remorse.

00:53:59.000 He's just like, oh yeah, well we're not friends anymore, obviously.

00:54:03.000 Um, but that's just like the nature of the reality of the thing that we're all in.

00:54:07.000 Well that's just the nature of the reality of the thing we're in. 1.00

00:54:11.000 And he's an idiot. 1.00

00:54:12.000 I mean, not only, you know, Jews have this, there's a stereotype of this rationalization. 1.00

00:54:17.000 People say, well they run everything because they're smart. 0.90

00:54:19.000 This guy's not smart. 1.00

00:54:21.000 He makes Jews look bad. 0.99

00:54:23.000 There are smart Jews. 1.00

00:54:25.000 Although it's kind of a dying breed. 1.00

00:54:26.000 I mean, they were a lot smarter a century ago. 1.00

00:54:29.000 There are smart Jews. 1.00

00:54:31.000 He's not one of them. 1.00

00:54:32.000 He's an idiot. 1.00

00:54:34.000 And an absolute demerit on the race of Jews as a whole. 1.00

00:54:38.000 Because he is a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:54:41.000 Uh, well, I'm a total hypocrite, but you know, that's just the nature of the reality of the thing that we're in. 1.00

00:54:49.000 Shut up, you bonehead. 0.99

00:54:51.000 The most profound thing that he has had to say over the past ten years, his claim to fame, is, well, we can disagree, but still talk. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Idiot. 1.00

00:55:07.000 He's a cocksucker. 1.00

00:55:10.000 Not to be vulgar, but anyway. 1.00

00:55:14.000 So yeah, Dave Rubin.

00:55:15.000 In case you didn't know, Rubin is a Jewish name.

00:55:18.000 In case you didn't know that, just so you're aware, Rubin is a Jewish last name.

00:55:24.000 Dave Rubin is a Jewish name.

00:55:26.000 He's Jewish, and if you don't support Jews in Israel, he will get you cancelled. 0.80

00:55:31.000 He will try very hard, actively, to get you cancelled. 0.97

00:55:34.000 He will unfriend you.

00:55:36.000 Despite his whole career being built on being able to talk to those we disagree with. 0.96

00:55:44.000 Just disgusting.

00:55:45.000 So yeah, I'm gonna side with Candace Owens. 0.90

00:55:48.000 Candace Owens believes in Jesus.

00:55:50.000 She's in a normal marriage with kids.

00:55:54.000 She's with God.

00:55:55.000 She's a real conservative.

00:55:57.000 She's a real loyal American.

00:55:59.000 This guy works on a tech startup with a guy from Hebrew University.

00:56:04.000 He's loyal to Israel.

00:56:06.000 Doesn't believe in Jesus. 0.99

00:56:07.000 He's a pervert that had kids created through surrogacy. 1.00

00:56:11.000 Fuck him. 1.00

00:56:13.000 Team Canvas. 1.00

00:56:16.000 Then you get this.

00:56:18.000 I saw this tweet the other day.

00:56:19.000 I'm super congested.

00:56:36.000 Then I saw this the other day.

00:56:39.000 This is from Ben Gold.

00:56:42.000 Ben Gold!

00:56:43.000 Look at this guy.

00:56:47.000 Dude, look at this guy. 0.80

00:56:53.000 Whatever kind of Jew you don't like, I'm that one!

00:56:57.000 Okay.

00:56:58.000 Am Yisrael Chai!

00:57:07.000 Hashtag I'm that Jew.

00:57:09.000 Hashtag Am Israel's High.

00:57:12.000 Hashtag Israel. 0.95

00:57:13.000 Hashtag Jew. 0.97

00:57:14.000 Hashtag bring them home. 0.91

00:57:17.000 Look at this. 0.91

00:57:18.000 Look at this doofus. 0.99

00:57:20.000 Look at this absolute doofus. 0.98

00:57:25.000 Is that enough necklaces?

00:57:26.000 We got two necklaces, a yarmulke, the sweatshirt.

00:57:31.000 He doesn't even need to advertise it.

00:57:33.000 His face advertises it. 0.98

00:57:38.000 Proud Zionist Jew, U.S. 0.84

00:57:40.000 Marine, Iraq War Vet, Tennessean.

00:57:41.000 That's the whole timeline.

00:57:55.000 Ben Gold.

00:57:55.000 He writes, One of my co-workers, my work best friend, and I discuss the situation in Israel on a daily basis.

00:58:03.000 He is a Christian man, born and raised in Tennessee.

00:58:06.000 He was raised worshiping a Jewish man and understands and appreciates that.

00:58:10.000 Really?

00:58:12.000 He jokingly told me to get him a yarmulke a few weeks ago.

00:58:15.000 He said he'd wear it because he's not scared to show his support.

00:58:18.000 Tomorrow's Jordan's birthday so I got him something much more appropriate.

00:58:23.000 He's a big ol' goofy country boy, but he stands with Israel and the Jewish people.

00:58:27.000 Okay? 1.00

00:58:34.000 He's a big, fat, stupid hillbilly, but he stands with us, but he kneels for Israel. 1.00

00:58:41.000 He's a big, fat, stupid hick. 1.00

00:58:45.000 But he stands with Israel. 1.00

00:58:46.000 But, I love the but. 0.61

00:58:48.000 He goes, he's a big ol' goofy country boy, but he stands with Israel. 1.00

00:58:54.000 He's a fat, stupid, big goyim. 1.00

00:58:59.000 He's a big, fat, stupid goy. 1.00

00:59:02.000 But he stands with Israel and the Jewish people. 1.00

00:59:08.000 Talk about a humiliation ritual. 0.99

00:59:09.000 Everything these days is a humiliation ritual, they say.

00:59:13.000 Modern architecture is a humiliation ritual. 0.50

00:59:15.000 McDonald's is a humiliation ritual. 0.97

00:59:18.000 Everything's a humiliation ritual! 0.59

00:59:20.000 You're having Joe Biden as the president!

00:59:23.000 This!

00:59:25.000 Okay, but you want to know the real humiliation ritual? 1.00

00:59:28.000 It's saying, here, Goya, wear this stupid hat. 1.00

00:59:31.000 Now, smile. 1.00

00:59:33.000 Smile for the camera.

00:59:36.000 This is the humiliation ritual.

00:59:55.000 Did Jordan eat all the humanitarian aid that was supposed to go to Gaza? 0.98

01:00:00.000 As an American patriot, I denounce and reject this traitor, fax. 0.74

01:00:07.000 Absolutely. 1.00

01:00:07.000 Yeah, ridiculous. 1.00

01:00:13.000 Then, okay. 0.58

01:00:16.000 Last thing, then we'll get into the Destiny content.

01:00:22.000 This guy, Kyle Rittenhouse, who disavowed me last year.

01:00:26.000 He did the event in Memphis, Tennessee.

01:00:30.000 I'll just show the clip.

01:00:31.000 I'll let the clip speak for itself.

01:00:35.000 We're gonna have a little bit of a dialogue of what races

01:00:51.000 Okay, I'll answer the question of racist things he said.

01:00:54.000 He said we shouldn't celebrate Juneteenth.

01:00:56.000 We shouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King Day. 1.00

01:00:58.000 We should be working those days. 0.99

01:00:59.000 He's talking to Tanya Brown Jackson, an affirmative action hire.

01:01:02.000 He's saying all this nonsense about George Floyd. 0.84

01:01:05.000 And he said he'd be scared if a black pilot was on a plane. 1.00

01:01:08.000 Does that not seem racist? 0.64

01:01:10.000 I don't know anything about that.

01:01:12.000 Okay, well...

01:01:18.000 After all the things I just told you, would you consider that a hate speech?

01:01:22.000 I'm not gonna comment on that.

01:01:33.000 Watch this.

01:01:34.000 Now watch this.

01:01:36.000 He says we shouldn't celebrate Juneteenth.

01:01:38.000 We shouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King Day. 1.00

01:01:40.000 We should be working those days. 1.00

01:01:41.000 It's called Katani Brown Jackson, an affirmative action hire.

01:01:44.000 He's talked nonsense about George Floyd. 0.85

01:01:47.000 And he said he'd be scared if a black pilot was on a plane. 0.94

01:01:50.000 Does that not seem racist? 0.64

01:01:51.000 I don't know anything about that.

01:01:54.000 No, no, no.

01:01:56.000 Does that seem racist?

01:01:57.000 It's a yes or no question, Kyle.

01:02:00.000 After all the things I just told you, would you consider that hate speech?

01:02:05.000 Deflection! 1.00

01:02:07.000 Deflection! 1.00

01:02:08.000 Deflection! 1.00

01:02:10.000 Deflection! 1.00

01:02:16.000 Bruh.

01:02:19.000 So bad.

01:02:19.000 Bruh.

01:02:20.000 Stick to killing protesters instead of taking questions from them, okay? 0.99

01:02:25.000 Clearly, he's a lot better at shooting them than he is at anything else, like portion control or answering questions. 0.98

01:02:34.000 Answering basic questions? 0.68

01:02:37.000 So brutal, dude.

01:02:39.000 How is it 2024 and conservatives don't know how to answer a black person calling them racist?

01:02:45.000 Like, they've been doing this for 30 years!

01:02:48.000 They've been doing it for longer!

01:02:50.000 And this is the best we got?

01:02:52.000 It's 2024! 1.00

01:02:54.000 And these guys are like totally def- A black person comes up to the microphone and says, Shit man, y'all are racist. 1.00

01:03:01.000 And they're like, Gotta go! 1.00

01:03:03.000 Like, you don't have an answer for that?

01:03:06.000 They've been doing this your entire life.

01:03:08.000 Your entire life.

01:03:10.000 This has been the routine.

01:03:12.000 You didn't have an answer for that one? 0.83

01:03:15.000 Charlie Kirk is racist.

01:03:18.000 What has he said that's racist? 0.95

01:03:20.000 This, this, this, this, this.

01:03:22.000 Well, I don't know anything about that.

01:03:26.000 Okay, well, now you know.

01:03:27.000 What do you think about it?

01:03:29.000 I don't know.

01:03:31.000 I gotta go.

01:03:31.000 I'm like, what?

01:03:35.000 Literally worst possible way to handle that.

01:03:38.000 I don't know how you could have handled that worse.

01:03:39.000 I don't think there's a worse answer he could have given other than nothing and then immediately leaving. 1.00

01:03:53.000 What a fucking loser. 1.00

01:04:01.000 You know, but that's the difference. 1.00

01:04:02.000 These guys, they talk a big game on Twitter, but they can't hack it in the real world.

01:04:09.000 I've done it.

01:04:11.000 I did it without bodyguards, without anything. 0.99

01:04:14.000 I went to Iowa State when I was probably the same age, maybe even younger, and I was literally in a mob, like a crowd of black people, telling them like, hey, on average your IQ is lower.

01:04:29.000 I don't know if the clip's on YouTube or anything, if someone has it.

01:04:33.000 If I could search up Nick Fuentes, Iowa State.

01:04:43.000 Alright, we're live.

01:04:45.000 We're live?

01:04:46.000 We're live.

01:04:48.000 I missed it.

01:04:49.000 Sure, okay.

01:04:50.000 It was literally me for 45 minutes.

01:04:53.000 No moderator, no stage.

01:04:55.000 I'm literally standing outside in the freezing cold in the winter by myself.

01:05:00.000 Everyone had abandoned me from the group that was hosting me in front of a crowd of black people.

01:05:07.000 I'll ask you this.

01:05:10.000 I'll ask you this.

01:05:11.000 I'll ask you this.

01:05:11.000 No, what are you trying to say?

01:05:13.000 Finish.

01:05:14.000 Hey, chill out. 0.99

01:05:14.000 You're a racism show. 0.99

01:05:18.000 Detroit bears a strong resemblance to Haiti, to Sub-Saharan Africa. 0.97

01:05:24.000 More of a resemblance.

01:05:26.000 More of a resemblance than it does.

01:05:31.000 What I mean to say by that is, men, I will say exactly what I mean.

01:05:36.000 When people, when people... Now that's standing on business.

01:05:41.000 Literally standing in front of them saying, hey, Detroit, 80s, up there in Africa, what do they all have in common? 0.69

01:05:47.000 45 minutes. 0.96

01:05:58.000 That's the difference.

01:05:59.000 But that's the difference between me and Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:06:02.000 Okay?

01:06:04.000 I'm not hiding behind a gun.

01:06:06.000 Oh, look at me.

01:06:06.000 I'm a big strong man.

01:06:08.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:06:09.000 It was cool that he killed the protesters and everything. 1.00

01:06:12.000 But the guy's a pussy. 1.00

01:06:14.000 Cries like a pussy on the stand. 1.00

01:06:17.000 Gets confronted by bla- I mean literally confronted by a black guy saying, Hey yo, y'all are racist. 1.00

01:06:23.000 And he goes, Oh, I don't know. 0.97

01:06:24.000 I don't know.

01:06:26.000 I gotta go.

01:06:27.000 I don't know what to say.

01:06:30.000 He's a big fat baby. 0.78

01:06:34.000 Look at this guy. 1.00

01:06:35.000 Big fat Jewish baby. 1.00

01:06:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:41.000 Boho.

01:06:42.000 Boho.

01:06:48.000 Can we get like a baby crying?

01:06:49.000 This is Kyle Reynolds.

01:07:03.000 This is your hero.

01:07:25.000 That's you buddy.

01:07:29.000 That's you pal.

01:07:33.000 He disavowed me in like October.

01:07:40.000 It was his pinned tweet for months.

01:07:45.000 Let me see if they have it.

01:07:49.000 Where's the link?

01:07:54.000 Bruh, I'm rate limited.

01:08:09.000 Whoops.

01:08:16.000 Yeah, this is Kyle Rittenhouse's statement.

01:08:22.000 In a statement, Mr. Rittenhouse, speaking for himself, unequivocally denounced Nick Fuentes and the circumstances around the meeting taking place near Rittenhouse's office.

01:08:31.000 Well, I have office space in the building.

01:08:33.000 I did not take part in any meetings with him, nor would I. As soon as I was made aware that Fuentes was in the office, I asked to be excused for the day.

01:08:40.000 I and the entire department were dismissed.

01:08:45.000 Fuentes has attacked me personally in his hideous views, denigrate the memory and legacy of my Jewish family members, some of whom were victims of the Nazi's holocaust.

01:08:57.000 The Nazi's holocaust?

01:09:00.000 A boo-hoo, boo-hoo. 1.00

01:09:03.000 The Nazi's holocaust.

01:09:05.000 I had to be in tears.

01:09:08.000 He's denigrated my Jewish family members.

01:09:11.000 I'm not racist.

01:09:13.000 I am not racist.

01:09:14.000 I am not.

01:09:15.000 I am not racist and neither is Charlie Kirk.

01:09:20.000 I don't know what he said.

01:09:24.000 I don't know.

01:09:24.000 I don't know what he said.

01:09:26.000 Anyway. 1.00

01:09:32.000 Yeah, you suck, buddy. 1.00

01:09:34.000 You suck, you trash. 1.00

01:09:38.000 You got bogged. 1.00

01:09:38.000 You got bogged by a black guy. 1.00

01:09:40.000 You got bogged by blacks. 1.00

01:09:42.000 No excuse. 1.00

01:09:44.000 No excuse for this.

01:09:45.000 We shouldn't celebrate Juneteenth.

01:09:47.000 We shouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King Day. 1.00

01:09:48.000 We should be working those days. 1.00

01:09:51.000 Shouldn't celebrate Juneteenth. 0.99

01:09:52.000 Shouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King Day. 0.67

01:09:54.000 Tony Brown Jackson, affirmative action hire.

01:09:56.000 He's telling nonsense about George Floyd. 0.94

01:09:59.000 And he said he'd be scared if a black pilot was on a plane. 0.95

01:10:02.000 Does that not seem racist? 0.64

01:10:04.000 I don't know anything about that. 0.96

01:10:06.000 The way he says that is so gay, too. 0.88

01:10:08.000 Like, that's a rebuttal. 0.65

01:10:10.000 Well, I don't know anything about that.

01:10:14.000 No, no, no.

01:10:15.000 Does that seem racist as a yes or no question, Kyle?

01:10:18.000 No, boys.

01:10:19.000 He's got the charisma of a wet blanket.

01:10:21.000 After all the things I just told you, would you consider that hate speech?

01:10:27.000 DEFLECTION! 1.00

01:10:30.000 Uh, no comment.

01:10:30.000 DEFLECTION!

01:10:32.000 DEFLECTION! 1.00

01:10:34.000 DEFLECTION! 1.00

01:10:37.000 YEAH!

01:10:40.000 And wrap it up.

01:10:42.000 Bro literally picks up the dog with him.

01:10:44.000 That's so lame.

01:10:45.000 Like, oh, look at me. 0.99

01:10:47.000 It's me, Kyle Renhouse and my gay dog. 1.00

01:10:49.000 Uh oh, black people, let's get out of here. 1.00

01:10:52.000 Black people asking about Juneteenth. 1.00

01:10:55.000 Time to get out of here. 1.00

01:11:01.000 Puss. 1.00

01:11:05.000 Pussy. 1.00

01:11:07.000 You will never be Nick Fuentes, pal. 1.00

01:11:12.000 Nick Fuentes stands on business.

01:11:13.000 We're live?

01:11:16.000 Oh, I missed it.

01:11:46.000 True.

01:11:48.000 Your university is paused.

01:11:53.000 Paused?

01:11:54.000 Well, this is sort of a meme, but in Twitter we say that something is paused because it has been infected with the globalist agenda.

01:12:02.000 Test positive for the virus of globalism.

01:12:07.000 That's a little cringe.

01:12:08.000 That's a little cringe, but this is 2018, okay?

01:12:11.000 This is six years old.

01:12:14.000 All of it hasn't aged super well, okay?

01:12:36.000 I just handled it.

01:12:37.000 He's like, you don't stand for our values, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, true.

01:12:42.000 Okay, and?

01:12:42.000 All right, yeah, go away now.

01:12:47.000 That's standing on business.

01:12:50.000 Okay, that's standing on business.

01:12:53.000 I wouldn't do this now, though. 0.72

01:12:54.000 Someone would try and kill me now. 0.59

01:12:55.000 Anyway. 0.99

01:12:56.000 So.

01:13:05.000 So that's that.

01:13:06.000 Goodbye, Kyle Rittenhouse. 1.00

01:13:08.000 You suck. 0.99

01:13:10.000 Alright, now let's watch some of this Destiny content. 0.99

01:13:13.000 What do we want to do? 0.60

01:13:14.000 Let's watch some of the... Let's watch a little of the Turkey Tom stuff. 0.98

01:13:17.000 We'll see how this is. 0.89

01:13:23.000 Is your number one goal in life, through everything, work?

01:13:25.000 Yeah, I think every part of my life kind of revolves around it.

01:13:27.000 People like this will say, oh yeah, that's not healthy.

01:13:30.000 If you don't like the Constitution, that's on you.

01:13:31.000 No, I don't like the Constitution!

01:13:32.000 Really, then why are you saying that Section 3 of Amendment 14 requires a conviction?

01:13:35.000 The past few years, you've had a lot of drama.

01:13:37.000 You just had a big one.

01:13:38.000 What was the big one?

01:13:39.000 Melina.

01:13:39.000 Aww.

01:13:40.000 My Steven.

01:13:41.000 Ultimately, what I'm getting at is like, where do your priorities really lie?

01:13:44.000 They definitely lie with work, 100%.

01:13:45.000 Oh, you're kind of a nice guy.

01:13:47.000 No.

01:13:47.000 That's gonna be cut.

01:13:49.000 What are you doing? 1.00

01:13:50.000 This is what we do to libtards. 1.00

01:13:51.000 I'm gonna go get him. 1.00

01:13:53.000 I will defend America.

01:13:54.000 Dancer, I'm ready.

01:13:55.000 Look cool. 1.00

01:13:55.000 This silly-ass jacket. 1.00

01:13:57.000 This is my shooting jacket. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Sighting my target, okay?

01:14:00.000 Trying to be a safe gunner.

01:14:01.000 Geez. 0.84

01:14:02.000 I need you to back the f*** up. 0.90

01:14:03.000 Yes. 0.95

01:14:03.000 I can't, I'm a child. 0.95

01:14:05.000 No!

01:14:06.000 Turn away the f*** up! 1.00

01:14:07.000 Okay, cool. 0.97

01:14:19.000 Stephen Kenneth Bonnell II, born December 12, 1988, known online as Destiny, is an American live streamer and political commentator.

01:14:26.000 He was among the first people to stream video games online full-time, and received attention as a pioneer of the industry.

01:14:32.000 Since 2016, he's garnered further attention for streaming political debates with other online personalities, in which he advocates for progressivism and liberal politics.

01:14:40.000 At least, that's what Wikipedia says.

01:14:42.000 In reality, Destiny is all of those things, and he's also a very controversial person.

01:14:47.000 While he is a progressive, he's also very edgy.

01:14:55.000 Which sort of puts him at odds with a lot of the other left-leaning people.

01:14:59.000 His community has been the birth of various popular streamers like Hasan Piker and Vosh, both of which Destiny has been at odds with for years, despite their initial interactions being friendly.

01:15:09.000 Nothing I do is performative. 0.99

01:15:11.000 I'm not going to, for instance, I'll use Hasan as an example, I'm not going to talk to a black person like Trihex and say, hey, the n-word, it's always- What a f***ing liar, dude! 1.00

01:15:22.000 What a f***ing weasley little liar, dude! 1.00

01:15:27.000 He's also been the subject of online mockery due to his marriage, which is an open one, in which he and his wife Melina see other people. 0.99

01:15:33.000 Well, I guess I should say ex-wife, as they're now divorced, and she seemingly left him for someone who was one day away from taking hormones.

01:15:40.000 Melina then demanded that Destiny send her $100,000 as compensation for their marriage, or something. 1.00

01:15:45.000 His streams have also been plagued by a revolving door of friendship and hookup drama, with various individuals trying to come for his career with a litany of allegations.

01:15:53.000 Despite the controversy, he's reaching a sort of new career high, debating various popular right-wing figures like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson, being interviewed on every podcast under the sun, and his YouTube channel is getting upwards of 10 to 15 million views every month.

01:16:06.000 He's sort of an unavoidable force online at this point, it feels like he's got a hand in everything.

01:16:11.000 So I set out to find out who the true destiny really is, starting with his debate with Alex Jones of InfoWars.

01:16:17.000 We're here in Texas, filming his debate with Alex Jones.

01:16:21.000 Here at the InfoWars studio, security is extremely tight.

01:16:24.000 They take it very seriously.

01:16:25.000 They made sure that we didn't film outside, because I assume there's crazy people trying to mess with them all the time.

01:16:29.000 It's a very, like, high-budget thing they've got.

01:16:31.000 I cannot imagine a greater matchup of people. 1.00

01:16:34.000 Destiny, the ultimate libtard, Alex Jones, the ultimate chud. 1.00

01:16:38.000 They're going to be going head-to-head talking about... What's going on with the look here, Tom? 1.00

01:16:42.000 I don't know what we're doing with the hair and the earring and... and that whole... the whole look.

01:16:50.000 I don't know what's going on with the look.

01:16:52.000 It's like, this is a classic case of what the thumbnail or the profile picture looks like.

01:17:04.000 This is the this is the profile picture and the man yes little different Spot the difference The hair we got to do something about that hair man, it's got to change we can do better we can do better than that.

01:17:25.000 Oh

01:17:27.000 What is Zero Hedge?

01:17:50.000 It's the media company that's producing these, like, ex-live debates.

01:17:54.000 Okay.

01:17:55.000 So, like, they did one with, like, Laura Loomer and somebody else about Israel-Palestine.

01:17:59.000 It's you guys, Alex, Destiny... Hey, guys, I brought you pizza.

01:18:03.000 I'm sorry I didn't know you guys were going live.

01:18:05.000 How you doing, man?

01:18:06.000 Good to see you.

01:18:07.000 Good to see you.

01:18:07.000 I'm Brian.

01:18:08.000 Good to see you.

01:18:08.000 Tom, nice to meet you.

01:18:09.000 I like your shirt.

01:18:10.000 Thank you, I appreciate it.

01:18:11.000 Well, anyway, don't try to interrupt.

01:18:13.000 I apologize.

01:18:18.000 He's not really short.

01:18:19.000 This guy gets right f***ing into it.

01:18:21.000 Not, how are you doing?

01:18:23.000 How's the pizza?

01:18:24.000 Are you fully familiar with the elector scheme?

01:18:26.000 Do you understand how all that was supposed to work?

01:18:29.000 Okay.

01:18:29.000 Do you know what Red Pill is?

01:18:30.000 Like debating these guys that I kind of like.

01:18:32.000 Do you know anything about Ray Epps?

01:18:33.000 I know the name, vaguely.

01:18:34.000 Ray Epps is like some boomer conservative guy.

01:18:36.000 He went to DC, all fired up to protest.

01:18:38.000 I think his heart was really into it until like the actual rioting happened.

01:18:41.000 And then he was like, okay, wait, chill out guys.

01:18:42.000 Like everybody calm down.

01:18:43.000 Like one of the things conservatives hang their hat on for this whole conspiracy is this text that he sent his nephew.

01:18:48.000 So he's like, are you there?

01:18:48.000 What's going on?

01:18:49.000 He's like, yeah, I orchestrated the whole thing.

01:18:50.000 I feel like I'm watching your stream right now.

01:18:52.000 Yeah, bro.

01:18:53.000 Oh yeah, sorry.

01:18:53.000 I'm the same.

01:18:54.000 I'm gonna be the exact same in real life.

01:18:55.000 Sorry.

01:18:55.000 You're in.

01:18:56.000 So anyway.

01:18:57.000 How you guys doing?

01:18:58.000 I brought coffee.

01:18:59.000 Hot chocolate.

01:19:00.000 Just coffee.

01:19:00.000 I'm... You're doing a thing on me.

01:19:03.000 You're doing a video on me.

01:19:04.000 I always drink hot chocolate.

01:19:05.000 Okay. 1.00

01:19:05.000 Well, I'm not giving into your bullshit. 1.00

01:19:06.000 This is Americano. 1.00

01:19:07.000 We have cream and sugar.

01:19:08.000 It's okay.

01:19:09.000 My mom was asking what I'm doing on here.

01:19:10.000 So she was like reading your Wikipedia article.

01:19:12.000 She's like... Yo! 1.00

01:19:13.000 Marcus Epstein?

01:19:16.000 Let's go. 0.78

01:19:18.000 Marcus Epstein cameo, the Turkey Tom.

01:19:21.000 And we got Darren.

01:19:22.000 Whoa, Darren.

01:19:25.000 Darren's looking a little short.

01:19:26.000 This is an insane crossover!

01:19:30.000 Marcus Epstein, Darren Beattie, and Turkey Tom.

01:19:35.000 Marcus!

01:19:39.000 There's no one else?

01:19:41.000 No one else that I know of.

01:19:43.000 Okay, if I was gonna look for a... I want a pen and notebook if I can.

01:19:46.000 It would be so nice to take notes for this if I could do it.

01:19:48.000 Are you like nervous at all for this?

01:19:50.000 A little bit.

01:19:50.000 Not really.

01:19:51.000 Kind of.

01:19:51.000 I don't know.

01:19:51.000 Not really.

01:19:52.000 Kind of.

01:19:52.000 I don't know.

01:19:53.000 So you don't get nervous for this kind of thing?

01:19:54.000 I was nervous.

01:19:55.000 I'm not even debating.

01:19:55.000 I was nervous just coming here to the studio.

01:19:57.000 It's a different kind of nervousness.

01:19:58.000 Like, I have, like, the facts are easily on my side.

01:20:01.000 And I have a huge, like, database of them on my head.

01:20:03.000 Are you confident you're going to be just fine?

01:20:05.000 Yeah, I'm always confident of myself.

01:20:07.000 Yeah, obviously.

01:20:08.000 Obviously.

01:20:09.000 Well, because I've been debating for, like, seven years, right?

01:20:10.000 So early on when you're starting out, let's say, with a JonTron discussion.

01:20:13.000 It is a European nation, historically.

01:20:17.000 There's just no debating that.

01:20:18.000 The first thing that you just said doesn't really make sense.

01:20:20.000 It was a European nation.

01:20:22.000 Were you nervous about that?

01:20:23.000 Not as much, because I feel like the expectation kind of matches the reputation.

01:20:27.000 Like, when I was debating... debating.

01:20:28.000 It was really just a conversation with JonTron.

01:20:30.000 Like, all this stuff leading up to it, nobody really did, like, online gaming slash political debates.

01:20:35.000 So there wasn't, like, a huge expectation to be, like, super informed.

01:20:37.000 It was just, like, really entertaining and funny and everything.

01:20:39.000 Do you think the Jon thing was, like, a watershed moment?

01:20:41.000 Like, the start of a lot of that stuff for you?

01:20:44.000 I don't think so, but it's where a lot of people met me, or found out about me.

01:20:46.000 That's how I knew about you.

01:20:47.000 And I didn't even like you at the time, because I was a Jon fan, and I was like, oh he doesn't like Jon?

01:20:50.000 And that was just, in my head it was just like, this guy.

01:20:53.000 Did you watch that full convo?

01:20:54.000 Yes.

01:20:55.000 The thing that was the most frustrating thing about that convo is, I listened to, the only reason I had that convo is because I was on stream, do you know who Sargon of Akkad was?

01:21:01.000 Of course.

01:21:03.000 Why did they not just cut a lot of this?

01:21:05.000 This is just boring.

01:21:06.000 JonTron.

01:21:07.000 When I was listening to those conversations, it sounded to me like JonTron was just, like, a well-meaning dude that, like, had some questions, and Sargon was, of course, like, educating him.

01:21:15.000 Yeah. 0.81

01:21:15.000 And then I saw JonTron start to tweet out stuff like, if Japan's population can be all Japanese, why can't America's population be all white? 0.81

01:21:22.000 And I'm like, aren't you, like, a Persian immigrant or something?

01:21:24.000 That's kind of a weird thing for you to say.

01:21:25.000 So then, eventually, we had a conversation on stream, and the conversation was not really me trying to, like, go after him.

01:21:29.000 I was just, like, kind of asking him questions.

01:21:31.000 I didn't know that he was as far along as he was.

01:21:32.000 Because I remember when that happened,

01:21:34.000 We're good to go.

01:21:49.000 An adult swim?

01:21:49.000 Yeah, that guy.

01:21:50.000 Like, there were so many, like, big animators that came for my throat after that.

01:21:53.000 This is crazy for me watching your come up because when I, I got, I like saw you around that time and I didn't like you.

01:21:57.000 Then around like 2017, 20, maybe 26, 17?

01:22:00.000 Shout out BedheadBernie for getting me into Destiny, but he got me down the Destiny pipeline.

01:22:02.000 That was when you were debating all the skeptic guys, like Warski, Sargon.

01:22:05.000 Takasa.

01:22:06.000 Oh, Takasa. 0.99

01:22:06.000 The crazy people. 0.99

01:22:07.000 Well, this is the thing is all these guys that you interact with.

01:22:08.000 I mean, whether it's the skeptics, whether it's RedTube, whether it's TheRedPill, I feel like you're kind of the one left standing.

01:22:14.000 Obviously.

01:22:14.000 Well, the thing is, they all ride these trends, right?

01:22:15.000 They're all part of these waves.

01:22:16.000 You never had, like, a wave of people you came up with.

01:22:17.000 You kind of assimilate a little bit here and there to get in there.

01:22:19.000 Yeah.

01:22:19.000 And then you get out very quickly.

01:22:20.000 People always call me, like, partisan or biased or whatever.

01:22:22.000 My biggest strength is, if you go to Hasan's stream, for instance, you're going to Hasan's stream to see, like, what do progressives think.

01:22:25.000 But if you go to a lot of, like, political people's streams, you're just trying to get, like, their political side of things.

01:22:27.000 Yeah.

01:22:27.000 But then when you come to my stream, you're getting, like, my relatively unique take.

01:22:29.000 Like, I'll have, like, different positions on different things, and people enjoy that.

01:22:31.000 But because of that

01:22:33.000 What is the unique take?

01:22:34.000 I'm sorry.

01:22:35.000 Pretty sure he's just been in favor of everything that the mainstream media and the U.S.

01:22:39.000 government has been.

01:22:40.000 He's pro-Israel and pro-Ukraine.

01:22:43.000 He's, like, left-leaning but not a socialist.

01:22:47.000 Pro-free market but in favor of a social safety net.

01:22:50.000 Sorry, where's the uniqueness?

01:22:52.000 I'm pretty sure that's just the position of, like, Columbia University and the New York Times.

01:22:57.000 Like, I'm sorry, what's unique about that?

01:23:00.000 That's about as unique as mourning Joe.

01:23:04.000 Mika Brzezinski and uh you know guys like less radical than than Chris Hayes.

01:23:13.000 I can kind of move through time without coming up and going away.

01:23:15.000 You don't need to have a big watershed.

01:23:16.000 The political movements like I didn't I didn't rely on Gamergate to build me up or I didn't need to be like a big Bernie bro progressive to build me up or I didn't need yeah.

01:23:21.000 But it seemed like a big moment back in the day that was like a big kind of turning point for you a little bit.

01:23:24.000 Someone leaked your dick pic on Reddit and that made like front page and I saw a bunch of people talking about how that kind of made you more like part of the Kotaku action kind of scene a little bit. 0.88

01:23:30.000 Maybe. 0.98

01:23:30.000 My issue was just that basically, um, there was a subreddit. 0.98

01:23:32.000 Have you ever heard of the subreddit?

01:23:33.000 That's gonna be way before your time.

01:23:34.000 Have you ever heard of a subreddit called ShitRedditSays?

01:23:35.000 Barely.

01:23:35.000 Back in the day, this was like the SJW subreddit.

01:23:37.000 SJW is what my generation called- Dude, who cares?

01:23:40.000 That's what- You talked to Vosh about that.

01:23:41.000 He came from there.

01:23:41.000 He came from there, yeah.

01:23:42.000 You can see, this is an example of the kind of structure that I'm referring to.

01:23:44.000 But, um, ShitRedditSays is a subreddit that's trying to, like, witch hunt, basically, people's careers into the ground, and then I was one of their favorite people.

01:23:48.000 So they would, like, email sponsors, and then if sponsors wouldn't drop me, they would email their sponsors' clients to get them to drop me.

01:23:51.000 Like, really hard- And this is just, like, small talk.

01:23:53.000 Stuff drops.

01:23:54.000 It's not even an interview, this is like small talk outside the green room.

01:23:55.000 Shouldn't they have during this part, like, talk more about the debate or, you know, it just seems like inappropriate to be doing the deep dive in this, you know, guys holding the

01:24:19.000 Phone or whatever.

01:24:20.000 Camera.

01:24:21.000 When I got kicked off Twitch.

01:24:22.000 I'm always kind of like, I run my own website with my own subs and everything.

01:24:23.000 I'm always trying to stay a little bit independent because obviously I have to be able to weather the storms of political opposition.

01:24:28.000 Scary.

01:24:28.000 Yeah, it is.

01:24:29.000 Squirreling wing, that's for the winter.

01:24:30.000 Something like that, yeah.

01:24:30.000 You don't seem too reckless with your money, which is probably a good thing.

01:24:32.000 What do you mean by that?

01:24:33.000 Do you know what this is?

01:24:34.000 Valencia?

01:24:34.000 Yep.

01:24:34.000 And then this is Gucci.

01:24:35.000 They did custom designs for me.

01:24:36.000 I don't know if this is... Versace?

01:24:38.000 No, this is Neiman's. 0.99

01:24:39.000 Damn. 0.99

01:24:39.000 And now you're here. 0.99

01:24:40.000 This is probably the most popular conservative you've debated?

01:24:42.000 Who?

01:24:43.000 Alex.

01:24:43.000 I've been on stage with him before.

01:24:44.000 Alex Jones has kind of tumbled a bit after the Sandy Hook ruling, I think.

01:24:49.000 I'm Tom, and this is The Info War.

01:24:51.000 I'm Ewing.

01:24:56.000 I need a sip of coffee.

01:24:57.000 I just put alpha brain in there. 0.98

01:24:59.000 It's my form dude.

01:25:00.000 It's important training.

01:25:01.000 For the insurrection.

01:25:02.000 I'll do it Mr. President.

01:25:03.000 Anything you need.

01:25:04.000 I'll do it.

01:25:04.000 What's up buddy?

01:25:05.000 What's up?

01:25:05.000 How you doing?

01:25:05.000 Nervous?

01:25:06.000 Not yet.

01:25:06.000 The nerves are getting to you now.

01:25:07.000 I know they are.

01:25:08.000 Marcus!

01:25:08.000 Calm before the storm.

01:25:09.000 People live in Nebraska?

01:25:10.000 I know, I moved.

01:25:11.000 Yeah, there you go. 1.00

01:25:11.000 Dumbass. 1.00

01:25:12.000 Call me a dumbass. 1.00

01:25:13.000 I'm gonna fight this guy. 1.00

01:25:13.000 We're gonna go to the gym tomorrow. 1.00

01:25:14.000 Dude, no.

01:25:15.000 We're going to the gym.

01:25:16.000 We're gonna smoke cigarettes and do pre-workout.

01:25:17.000 We're gonna go to the gym.

01:25:17.000 We're gonna get huge.

01:25:18.000 Yeah, when I get back from this trip, okay?

01:25:19.000 Tomorrow, you're gonna bench 225.

01:25:20.000 Yeah, maybe I can bench half of it. 1.00

01:25:22.000 That's crazy a Turkey Tom's wearing the Chuck Taylors. 0.98

01:25:26.000 That's just like such a stereotype of like a Twitter bro, you know. 0.99

01:25:30.000 Guy wearing the Chuck Taylors is super into lifting and is like super into like getting pussy and wears like a hat and... 0.94

01:25:40.000 Someone says Turkey Thomas, so 2014. 0.91

01:25:42.000 More like 2018.

01:25:43.000 Like, from the top to the bottom once.

01:25:46.000 If you do it once, you'll beat Ben Shapiro.

01:25:48.000 If you do it once... No, I'll save you, dude.

01:25:50.000 I'll save you.

01:25:51.000 I'll save you. 0.99

01:25:51.000 I'll pull it off your neck, and I'll push it right now. 0.99

01:25:53.000 Yeah?

01:25:53.000 Vegan Gains will be proud of me.

01:25:54.000 I wish Richard was here. 1.00

01:25:55.000 Shoutout Malina. 1.00

01:25:56.000 Big shoutout.

01:25:56.000 I took her up on a job offer to be part of my production crew.

01:25:58.000 She's helping out.

01:25:58.000 She's actually great at Adobe After Effects.

01:25:59.000 Can we recreate?

01:26:00.000 It's melt time.

01:26:01.000 It's melt time!

01:26:07.000 Alright, we're about 10 minutes out from the official debate.

01:26:09.000 Destiny's sitting over there.

01:26:10.000 We've got some guy recognized from Tim Pool's show.

01:26:11.000 Krasensteiner's sat over there.

01:26:12.000 As soon as Destiny got here, he was like, did you read the indictments?

01:26:14.000 Hey, Paul Towne is in the chat!

01:26:17.000 Everybody say hello to Paul Towne, 07s.

01:26:20.000 Says, Turkey Tom is like Sam Hyde. 0.66

01:26:22.000 Dude, that is such... Look, I kind of like Turkey Tom.

01:26:27.000 Like, I think he likes me, so I like him a little bit also.

01:26:31.000 But, uh... Paul Towne's just gonna rip Turkey Tom to pieces.

01:26:37.000 It's been going off.

01:26:38.000 It's too brutal.

01:26:40.000 Like, he's on, he's ready.

01:26:41.000 I can't think of a better person to debate about January 6th than Alex Jones.

01:26:43.000 It's definitely going to be a contentious debate.

01:26:44.000 Obviously, we're a non-political outlet here, so whatever your opinion is, I don't really care.

01:26:47.000 You guys will enjoy it.

01:26:48.000 You'll enjoy it.

01:26:50.000 Stephen Bonnell, known as Destiny.

01:26:51.000 Well, I don't think I'd probably need much of an introduction.

01:26:53.000 Oh, there's no Russian connection! 0.99

01:26:54.000 That's all this is! 0.98

01:26:55.000 mRNA vaccines!

01:26:56.000 Here, take your extra. 1.00

01:26:56.000 I want you to take all the shots. 1.00

01:26:58.000 Global warming!

01:26:58.000 You know what the United States is usually like?

01:27:00.000 Wait, wait, here, we have... If we did one insurrection, you'd know it.

01:27:02.000 We are there right now.

01:27:02.000 We just went.

01:27:03.000 It's January 6th.

01:27:03.000 If there was any time to go... Don't worry.

01:27:05.000 I got your ass! 1.00

01:27:06.000 Yes, that's correct. 1.00

01:27:07.000 Really?

01:27:07.000 We're doing this song?

01:27:08.000 We're doing this song?

01:27:09.000 Really inspired idea.

01:27:09.000 Hey, hey, hey!

01:27:10.000 Ding dong! 0.99

01:27:29.000 I'm about to stand up, just so you know.

01:27:31.000 That's it.

01:27:31.000 That's it!

01:27:32.000 That's it!

01:27:32.000 We're done with this f***ing conversation!

01:27:46.000 Let's go. 0.78

01:27:47.000 How's it feel to lose?

01:27:48.000 Let's go.

01:27:48.000 You wanna say bye to anyone?

01:27:48.000 Kisses?

01:27:49.000 Meeting Alex Jones in person was pretty surreal considering how famous the guy is.

01:27:52.000 Or maybe infamous is a better term.

01:27:53.000 Alright, here we are ladies and gentlemen.

01:27:54.000 January 6th, 2024.

01:27:56.000 The debate itself was very entertaining though, but as many debates are, it wasn't very productive and didn't bring a lot of closure to either side.

01:28:00.000 I think those who support J6 and those who don't are probably just as dug in as they were before, but regardless, it was funny.

01:28:04.000 We just got done with the Alex Jones debate.

01:28:06.000 Destiny, how do you feel about that?

01:28:07.000 I think it actually went okay.

01:28:08.000 For you?

01:28:08.000 I would have done things differently on my own, but I think given what it was, I think it went pretty good, yeah.

01:28:11.000 How do you feel about the opposing side?

01:28:13.000 Ugh.

01:28:16.000 Look at the the optics of this are not good.

01:28:21.000 We got this hair and like a black zip-up hoodie and the Chuck Taylors and this drip on the left.

01:28:31.000 Like bruh.

01:28:31.000 We're excited with Alex Glenn.

01:28:33.000 Glenn is a clown. 0.98

01:28:33.000 I didn't get to hammer home that enough unfortunately because Alex was also a clown but a much louder one so he kept cutting me off every time. 0.98

01:28:38.000 The Darren guy seemed to be the one that came with the most facts to argue but he was most passive and didn't seem to talk as much because Alex was screaming all the time so.

01:28:44.000 Yeah, I feel like probably either side, their audiences are probably not convinced of the other at this point.

01:28:47.000 I don't think so, not this much, probably not.

01:28:48.000 No, you weren't even able to get... I think you did a lot of preparation for this one, except you weren't able to put a lot of that to good use.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, I like to do like the factual argumentation combined with kind of like the punchy rhetorical skill, but that's hard to do when you've got partners.

01:28:58.000 Like for Alex, if Alex wants to shout at me the whole time, I'll shout at him, I can do that forever.

01:29:00.000 But then if my partners want to try me, I can't really shout over them.

01:29:02.000 And then sometimes they can derail like a line of argumentation I want to go down, and I can't really interrupt them because I have to go in their space.

01:29:06.000 But I will say for this conversation though, they were the best debate partners I've ever had.

01:29:08.000 So this is one example of, you've done a lot of in-person debates and conversations and podcasts in the last, I want to say year and a half, it's really ramped up.

01:29:13.000 Before that, it was mostly you in your room talking to people on stream.

01:29:15.000 Now it feels like, you know, every few weeks I'll get a new video of you on my feed talking to someone that gets turned into a TikTok clip.

01:29:20.000 You used to stream like 300 hours a month, and now you're getting down to like 160, 170, and your audience is kind of jilted about that.

01:29:24.000 They're not too happy with that.

01:29:25.000 Do you think that you're doing yourself a disservice by, you know, giving so much leverage to other people's platforms that you could be focusing on your own home?

01:29:29.000 Obviously you have a lot of opponents.

01:29:30.000 Who would you consider someone that you're like, okay, that's my buddy.

01:29:32.000 That's a good buddy that I like to talk to.

01:29:33.000 And maybe someone not from your community, not an orbiter, but somebody who you've had a conversation with on a mainstream platform.

01:29:50.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:29:51.000 Usually the people that I'm fighting with or disagree with are so out there compared to what I believe.

01:29:54.000 It's hard to say if we mind-meld much.

01:29:55.000 Because, like, there's a wide basket of people that I can talk to and have good conversations with, but we don't agree on everything. 1.00

01:29:58.000 Do you think conservatives are retarded? 1.00

01:30:00.000 Not all of them, but the Trump-defending ones. 1.00

01:30:02.000 There's a lot of videos of you saying conservatives are retarded. 0.99

01:30:03.000 I think the Trump-defending ones are unhinged. 0.97

01:30:04.000 I feel like all of my debates over this January 6th stuff is, like, pretty evident of that.

01:30:06.000 It's just, like... It's so tedious.

01:30:08.000 None of these are effective questions.

01:30:15.000 We're good to go. 0.99

01:30:35.000 If Melina had gone public and just started shit-talking me a ton, I'd be like, oh, well, that's kind of shitty. 0.99

01:30:38.000 Or if somebody that I consider a close actual personal friend started shit-talking me a ton, that would be like, oh, that doesn't feel good. 0.99

01:30:42.000 I have, like, five people I call, like, good friends. 0.75

01:30:45.000 You seem to have, like, I mean, I don't know, I don't really know, but you seem to have, like, a lot of connections with people you're constantly meeting.

01:30:48.000 Yeah, I've got a lot of connections with people.

01:30:49.000 I'm probably a few close personal friends, yeah.

01:30:51.000 Do you think your lifestyle is making these things messy?

01:30:52.000 I mean, a lot of people will point to your relationships, like the polyamorous relationships.

01:30:55.000 Melina considered Bob Seven her closest friend, and it seemed as though he felt somewhat similar.

01:30:57.000 So, like, he's made references to, like, oh, I hope... existence. 1.00

01:30:59.000 Abortion was the correct action here. 1.00

01:31:02.000 You talked about how missing Nebraska a little bit and thinking about how maybe things could have been different if you had stuck around to be with your kid. 1.00

01:31:09.000 Do you regret how things went there?

01:31:10.000 Do you wish you were... Regret which part?

01:31:13.000 I guess just not being there all the time.

01:31:14.000 I mean, like, yeah, to some extent, of course.

01:31:15.000 When I originally was there in Nebraska, I felt like being there was, like, super inhibiting to my career.

01:31:18.000 So I had a little bit of a conversation with his mom about, like, could all of us maybe move to California or Florida, but that was, like, completely off the table.

01:31:23.000 Was this when you were together?

01:31:24.000 Uh, no, but we were, like, still co-parenting.

01:31:26.000 Obviously, because she had her whole family there, and his mom had her job and everything there, like, she doesn't want to just pack up and move states. 1.00

01:31:30.000 He's kind of locked down there for as long as he wants to be with his mom and his family and his friends there.

01:31:32.000 And then, I feel like, or I felt like if I lived in different areas, there'd probably be a lot more career opportunities available to me.

01:31:36.000 Some people said I just moved places with people, but I mean, I was just flying with people, so.

01:31:39.000 I waited until he turned eight, because I was trying to think, like, well, do I want to leave when he's, like, two?

01:31:41.000 That feels kind of weird, because he doesn't even know who I am.

01:31:43.000 So I waited a little bit, like, at least eight, we can have a conversation, he can kind of understand it.

01:31:45.000 When he was, I think, either eight or nine, I moved to California initially, so that, um, him and his mom, because they were living, like, in a kind of a shitty apartment at the time, and then she moved into my house with him, and so he lives there now, so he'd go to the same school and hang out with his family and everything.

01:31:53.000 Then you wish you were, like, I don't know.

01:31:55.000 I'm not trying to do a gotcha millionaire, I'm just genuinely curious, I hope you don't feel like that.

01:31:57.000 Yeah, I mean, like, more present, or more, yeah, for sure.

01:31:59.000 Like, to some extent, like, I'm, I prioritize probably my career a little bit, over, like, my relationship with him.

01:32:02.000 Yeah.

01:32:02.000 I mean, God will judge us.

01:32:03.000 God will.

01:32:04.000 Yeah, and I remember that, like, there was a period where I look back at these texts sometimes, it was so unbelievable. 0.85

01:32:07.000 I'm, like, texting my kid's mom, saying shit like, I'm a horrible person, like, take Nathan away from me, I don't ever want to see him again, like, I'm a horrible, blah, blah, blah.

01:32:11.000 And it's like, I'd never say anything like that in my life. 0.98

01:32:13.000 I'm the most high-driven, like, competent person.

01:32:14.000 It was, like, crazy to me to see it.

01:32:15.000 But, yeah, I mean, like, I try to provide, obviously, financially for him as much as I can.

01:32:17.000 But, I mean, obviously, that's also no substitution for...

01:32:19.000 Like having your dad hang out with you every day.

01:32:20.000 Yeah, I guess at the end of the day it's balancing out like, after this I'm going to fly and visit him on my way back to Miami.

01:32:25.000 But obviously that's not the same as living there.

01:32:26.000 No.

01:32:27.000 You see him, you see him what, a few times a year at least?

01:32:29.000 Yeah, I mean like several times a year.

01:32:30.000 Usually whenever I'm doing trips or traveling, I'll fly out and hang out with him.

01:32:32.000 And then we talk kind of on Discord and stuff, although he kind of gravitated a little more from games and does real life shit now, so. 0.79

01:32:37.000 Well that's good. 0.90

01:32:37.000 He's not like you though, he's normal. 0.90

01:32:39.000 Not good.

01:32:39.000 Is he like you?

01:32:39.000 Yeah, he's a carbon copy of me, yeah.

01:32:40.000 Yeah?

01:32:41.000 Yeah, his mom reminds me all the time.

01:32:42.000 Wow, that's funny.

01:32:43.000 I bet she loves that.

01:32:44.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.99

01:32:44.000 Damn, that's kinda sad. 0.99

01:32:45.000 So he said he abandoned his kid in Nebraska so he could go work in California and Florida, right? 0.99

01:33:17.000 Sheesh. 0.88

01:33:19.000 Paul Towns says, I thought Turkey Tom was Brad Pitt for a second. 0.92

01:33:24.000 Dude.

01:33:28.000 Oh, bro.

01:33:30.000 Yeah, me too.

01:33:31.000 I thought he was Ryan Gosling.

01:33:34.000 I thought he was Ryan Gosling.

01:33:35.000 He was wearing that fit.

01:33:37.000 He was wearing the tights and Chuck Taylors.

01:33:39.000 I was like, dude, he's literally Ryan Gosling right now.

01:33:42.000 Bro's literally him.

01:33:43.000 That's very sad, though, that

01:33:46.000 He abandoned the son.

01:33:50.000 Doesn't seem to care too much about him, but you know, that's his life.

01:33:54.000 That's the lifestyle of a... He's just regurgitating what Tucker Carlson said on that interview about cigarettes, right?

01:34:00.000 Is that what this is now? 0.76

01:34:16.000 I'd never had a camel crush that did me wrong, you know? 0.99

01:34:18.000 Unlike cars, my friends, my bank account, I've never had a cigarette that, like, f***ed me up in, like, a bad way. 0.70

01:34:23.000 Like, every time I've had one, I've been like, oh, that was good.

01:34:26.000 That made my day better.

01:34:27.000 That made my life improve.

01:34:28.000 I feel stronger, lighter, focused.

01:34:30.000 I feel lasered in.

01:34:31.000 I feel dialed in.

01:34:32.000 I feel like my swag, which was turned low, was just turned way the f*** up, okay?

01:34:36.000 So smoke more cigarettes.

01:34:39.000 Do you have any weapons that are made for, like, maybe, like, younger individuals?

01:34:42.000 I don't think so.

01:34:43.000 You don't think so?

01:34:44.000 So you say that maybe someone of his stature probably is not allowed to shoot a gun?

01:34:47.000 Good one.

01:34:49.000 Okay.

01:34:49.000 Okay, that's fair.

01:34:50.000 That makes sense.

01:34:51.000 Okay.

01:34:51.000 I appreciate it.

01:34:51.000 We didn't want to get that.

01:34:52.000 He meant no as in he wouldn't say that.

01:34:53.000 No as in not that I'm not allowed to shoot.

01:34:55.000 No as in you cannot shoot a gun.

01:34:57.000 No, that's not what he said.

01:34:58.000 It was a double negative. 0.99

01:34:59.000 No as in your IQ is too low to shoot a gun. 0.99

01:35:03.000 I feel a presence. 1.00

01:35:07.000 If I come to your house and I'm banging on the door, and I'm saying, open up, are you going to come out with a glock and kill me? 1.00

01:35:12.000 I would shoot you from the window. 1.00

01:35:13.000 From the window? 1.00

01:35:14.000 Like a sniper?

01:35:15.000 Yeah.

01:35:15.000 Chris Kyle?

01:35:16.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:35:22.000 The thing that's funny about guns is that most people that are into guns are also retarded and Republican. 0.99

01:35:26.000 The Donut Alberta guy seems cool. 0.97

01:35:27.000 I haven't seen him say anything or do anything stupid, but I know, like, uh, the problem is sometimes he ain't about a lot of, like, very political people. 0.97

01:35:31.000 Like, the last gun thing they did, I saw f***ing Alex Stein was there. 0.98

01:35:34.000 I, like, I'm not gonna be in any proximity to this f***ing guy at all, so, yeah. 0.83

01:35:37.000 You wanna be around him? 0.97

01:35:38.000 No, no, I don't.

01:35:39.000 I'll never.

01:35:40.000 About him?

01:35:41.000 Anybody that goes into, like, the kid jokes or the wife jokes, I just, I never associate with a gun. 1.00

01:35:44.000 Which is stupid. 1.00

01:35:45.000 That's the lie. 1.00

01:35:46.000 What?

01:35:46.000 Well, I feel like it's like you hang out with a lot of people who you maybe would consider kind of... I don't know.

01:35:50.000 I mean, okay.

01:35:51.000 That's usually my red line.

01:35:52.000 That's why I cut off Sneako and Zerkaa completely.

01:35:54.000 Here's one criticism I have for you.

01:35:55.000 Real criticism.

01:35:56.000 Yeah, criticize me, baby.

01:35:57.000 Fuentes.

01:35:58.000 One of the biggest criticisms Destiny gets is in regards to platforming controversial people, like Nick Fuentes, head of the America First movement.

01:36:04.000 Some people believe he should not be platforming far-right figures because there is implicit danger if their ideas spread.

01:36:09.000 Others believe these ideas need to be debated out in the open.

01:36:12.000 Whether or not he was a Nazi or wouldn't wouldn't have changed him coming on my platform. 1.00

01:36:16.000 I think for a while America First was trying to get away from the crazy ultra like Jewish Nazi shit. 0.96

01:36:22.000 There's still like memes and jokes but I do think they were especially with like AfPak and everything I think they were trying to move towards like a little bit more mainstream like probably still like a little bit of the Nazi jokes and shit but less than they were before but I think that as soon as he got hooked up with Kanye I think all of that went completely back and now they're like totally back. 0.97

01:36:36.000 That's totally that's totally his reading of that.

01:36:39.000 When we linked up in 2022, he was telling his audience, he's like, oh, I think these guys aren't Nazis anymore.

01:36:46.000 I think these guys are like, they don't, they're not against Jewish power anymore.

01:36:50.000 That was never true.

01:36:52.000 At AfPak 3, I went up and said, oh, you know, Putin's, they're calling Putin Hitler like it's a bad thing or something like that.

01:37:01.000 They're always trying to do this de-radicalization op where they're like, oh well, I think they're good boys, or I think they're trying to be good boys, but they're being naughty.

01:37:10.000 They're talking about Jews and Israel again. 0.88

01:37:15.000 So, I've heard that my entire career.

01:37:17.000 It's always been, oh, we're always just on the cusp of de-radicalizing, but then we just keep doubling down. 0.54

01:37:22.000 From the beginning, it's always been against Jewish power. 0.93

01:37:25.000 From the Gruyper War, and even before.

01:37:34.000 Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor.

01:37:51.000 But then you cut him off.

01:37:51.000 What?

01:37:51.000 You cut him- like you wouldn't do content with him now.

01:38:11.000 I'm trying to think. 0.99

01:38:12.000 The current reason I've listened to Blacklist is because he does the crazy, aggressive, de-platforming shit. 0.99

01:38:15.000 Like, the griper people will spam report people if they don't like you, which I think is hypocritical and annoying. 0.98

01:38:20.000 Haven't you done that a little bit?

01:38:22.000 I've seen some old video of you reporting Nick's Twitch getting a ban.

01:38:25.000 Did that ever happen?

01:38:27.000 That's true.

01:38:28.000 It's so crazy.

01:38:30.000 Well, I'm trying to remember the current reason I blacklisted him.

01:38:33.000 Oh, yeah, it's because they report people like crazy.

01:38:35.000 Oh, you do that all the time.

01:38:37.000 Didn't you even do that to Nick?

01:38:39.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:38:40.000 Did that happen?

01:38:41.000 Yes. 1.00

01:38:42.000 Yes, it fucking did. 0.99

01:38:44.000 2018 or something. 0.99

01:38:46.000 You saw he was on Twitch. 0.89

01:38:48.000 You should ask my community also if you ever want lore because they know shit better than I do sometimes.

01:38:52.000 There was a big 2v2 debate that I had with me and Hasan versus Nick Fuentes and Sargon of Akkad and I remember after that stream Nick's stream got banned and I complained on stream and I messaged my partner contact because I said like like just curious like why did he get banned and 0.94

01:39:07.000 Because if I'm debating somebody, saying I'm pro-platforming, and then they get banned afterwards, that makes me look stupid. 0.98

01:39:12.000 Like, why the f*** would I ever do that? 0.93

01:39:13.000 But there might have been- because I know that people say I spam reported Nick after that debate, and I'm almost positive I didn't.

01:39:18.000 There's some video of you on stream, not spam reporting, where you actively are, like, pressing to report.

01:39:22.000 That might have been a year before, or two years earlier, but there was a time when I first started getting into politics where I kind of believed in the, like, well, maybe we shouldn't platform, like, certain points of view, but that position has changed over time.

01:39:32.000 By the time COVID rolled around, my position was, I don't care about, like, hate speech or anything like that, but I can understand people banning for, like, aggressive, like, misinformation or disinformation.

01:39:39.000 Like, people just, like, lie online.

01:39:40.000 So crazy.

01:39:41.000 Like, just pretending not to even know it.

01:39:43.000 Of course he knows exactly what Tom's talking about.

01:39:46.000 He reported me on stream.

01:39:47.000 And his community brigaded me after that debate, which was in 2019.

01:39:51.000 Oh, my position changed, did it?

01:39:55.000 Is that why you... He mass-reported Hasan.

01:39:58.000 He mass-reported Keffels. 0.67

01:39:59.000 He mass-reported... 1.00

01:40:01.000 Not that it even fucking matters, but just to the point, the guy's a total liar and a hypocrite. 1.00

01:40:06.000 Well, the current reason I don't talk to him is because he mass flags people. 1.00

01:40:10.000 Don't you mass flag people?

01:40:12.000 Well, not anymore.

01:40:13.000 Well, first of all, yes you do.

01:40:15.000 Well, didn't you mass report Nick?

01:40:17.000 Oh, I don't remember.

01:40:18.000 Well, there's a video of you doing it.

01:40:20.000 Oh, I think that was in 2018. 0.99

01:40:22.000 Okay, so you're just a liar on every level. 0.99

01:40:25.000 Racial slurs, whatever, that's another thing. 0.98

01:40:26.000 But prior to that, I kind of went back and forth to where I was like, well, maybe we should, like, debate everybody.

01:40:30.000 But then I would get salty because when I would get banned, they would all cheer on, like, me getting banned. 0.99

01:40:34.000 And I think at some point I'm like, well, f*** these guys. 0.98

01:40:36.000 So I kind of go back and forth. 0.99

01:40:37.000 But for the past, like, two or three years, I've been pretty, like, yeah.

01:40:39.000 Because there was a time in 2018 when you would talk about, like, people who deserve to be deplatformed are people who actively spread misinformation on social media.

01:40:46.000 Yeah, that was when I was on the misinformation thing, yeah.

01:40:47.000 But you don't hold that opinion anymore?

01:40:49.000 No, I don't think so.

01:40:50.000 I don't think that works.

01:40:51.000 Why not?

01:40:51.000 Because one, because the ideas are really pervasive, so... W Tom, though, by the way.

01:40:56.000 W Tom for pushing back on that.

01:40:59.000 Patriot Turkey Tom. 0.83

01:41:01.000 Objective. 0.99

01:41:02.000 Objective.

01:41:04.000 We're good to go!

01:41:24.000 We just are funny.

01:41:24.000 We don't spend a lot.

01:41:25.000 We just are funny.

01:41:41.000 So you'd say, probably these viewpoints, you have a very pragmatic approach to them.

01:41:45.000 All of it is pragmatic.

01:41:45.000 Like, whatever works.

01:41:46.000 Yeah.

01:41:47.000 Societally, if it did get rid of those opinions to censor all that misinformation, all those people, you'd be in favor of deplatforming.

01:41:54.000 If it was just like, you get them off the platform and then it's the water stops.

01:41:57.000 I think it would depend on the type of misinformation and the level of harm, I think.

01:42:01.000 Let's say, hypothetically, let's say there was some piece of misinformation you could spread that would get people to, like, um, eat Tide Pods or something.

01:42:08.000 And let's say that this particular piece of information was so juicy that, like, if somebody heard it, there was, like, a 30% chance that they were going to start eating Tide Pods.

01:42:14.000 I might still agree, well, maybe this speech needs to be banned because, like, 100 million people just died from eating Tide Pods.

01:42:19.000 Maybe.

01:42:20.000 I can't imagine there's anything like that, but, I mean, people just need to do a better job at arguing them.

01:42:23.000 How come one side of your beard really comes in and the other doesn't?

01:42:25.000 Because it's called alopecia. 1.00

01:42:27.000 I got so stressed out when I was f***ing your mom in the ass after she told me she had AIDS. 0.99

01:42:30.000 That I was worried for a while I was gonna get HIV, and then a bunch of hair fell out. 0.99

01:42:33.000 It's kind of interesting, because it's like a very like... There's like none there, and it's all there.

01:42:38.000 I was half joking, but I'm serious, yeah.

01:42:39.000 Oh, it looks nice?

01:42:40.000 You think it looks nice? 1.00

01:42:41.000 No, it's fucked. 0.99

01:42:43.000 Yeah, but this is like a thing that hopefully comes back in six months. 0.99

01:42:46.000 Having any is... Having any facial hair is good.

01:42:49.000 Okay, hold on.

01:42:51.000 You're the person that... You're the person that she's rizzing right now.

01:42:53.000 Can we get like a... Can we get like a review?

01:42:55.000 Like, how would you review Destiny's appearance?

01:42:57.000 Like, how would we review Destiny? 0.99

01:42:57.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:42:58.000 No, stop. 1.00

01:42:59.000 Let's go.

01:43:00.000 This is Destiny's new trad princess, by the way.

01:43:02.000 This is Destiny's, guys, we're here with Destiny's trad groipette.

01:43:06.000 Destiny's red-pilled girlfriend, okay? 0.98

01:43:09.000 We're gonna make the Aryan race proud. 1.00

01:43:10.000 Wait, do you have blue eyes?

01:43:12.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:43:13.000 That's beautiful.

01:43:14.000 Nice.

01:43:14.000 You're unsafe right now.

01:43:15.000 I know I am.

01:43:16.000 I'm sighting my target, okay?

01:43:18.000 I'm trying to be a safe gun.

01:43:19.000 Jesus!

01:43:20.000 Let me operate, okay?

01:43:22.000 My gun!

01:43:41.000 I feel more badass now.

01:43:42.000 That's good.

01:43:43.000 Oh my god, I'm in Destiny's car!

01:43:44.000 Um, can we play all the classic Destiny tracks? 0.98

01:43:46.000 Like, um, do you love black people? 1.00

01:43:48.000 Haha, dude!

01:43:49.000 Oh my god, the one with the Jesse Lee Peterson?

01:43:52.000 Destiny.

01:43:53.000 Uh, how did you get the name?

01:43:54.000 Is that a lady name? 0.99

01:43:55.000 Uh, yeah, kind of.

01:43:56.000 I made it when I was like nine.

01:43:57.000 Uh, and why? 1.00

01:43:58.000 You pretend to be a woman? 0.98

01:43:59.000 No, I just have a feminine name, I guess.

01:44:01.000 Yeah, that's a girl name.

01:44:03.000 Ma'am.

01:44:03.000 Yeah, dude, like, when he, like, called you a beta, I was like, oh, that was so good!

01:44:08.000 So we decided to do some fun gamer things, some fun soy things with Destiny, which included going to an arcade bar, the favorite watering hole among soy gamers in Texas. 0.93

01:44:18.000 Although, in fairness, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit, so count me in, I guess. 0.95

01:44:21.000 Oh, were you on easy and he was on medium?

01:44:24.000 We were both on medium.

01:44:25.000 Oh my god.

01:44:26.000 Yeah, horribly?

01:44:27.000 True!

01:44:36.000 Probably one of the most awkward things is when you're like, somebody comes up to you in a public area and they're kind of like chatting with you, and you're not sure if they're a fan or if it's somebody you're talking to, and you're gonna be like, I don't mean to sound like conceited, but like, do you know who I am?

01:44:47.000 Do you know who I am?

01:44:50.000 Have you had it happen where they don't?

01:44:52.000 Yeah, yeah, and then I'm like, oh, no, no, I just went like, yeah, oh, yeah, it's so awkward. 0.99

01:44:56.000 That's like, that must come across like such a fucking dickhead. 0.99

01:45:00.000 Your masculinity's on the line here. 1.00

01:45:02.000 I'm a beta male, but I win.

01:45:04.000 Yeah, you are.

01:45:05.000 Oh, don't let him get you!

01:45:07.000 Oh! 0.60

01:45:08.000 Oh! 0.60

01:45:08.000 Okay, okay, okay! 0.60

01:45:09.000 Oh, my God!

01:45:11.000 Oh! 0.60

01:45:11.000 Oh, my God, not the punch thing! 0.60

01:45:13.000 No! 1.00

01:45:14.000 Why'd you have to teach her the fucking punch thing, dude? 1.00

01:45:17.000 Of course you picked the board fight-looking asshole. 1.00

01:45:20.000 Oh, no! 1.00

01:45:21.000 Dude, my arms are shorter!

01:45:22.000 Oh, I can do... No way!

01:45:23.000 No!

01:45:24.000 No!

01:45:24.000 Look at how tiny his hands are.

01:45:36.000 No!

01:45:37.000 No!

01:45:38.000 Look at these baby hands. 1.00

01:45:40.000 That's crazy. 0.99

01:45:42.000 What the f*** is that? 1.00

01:45:45.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

01:45:48.000 That's the most insane thing I've ever seen in my life. 1.00

01:45:50.000 No!

01:45:52.000 You cheated!

01:45:53.000 Yeah, I cheated, that's true.

01:45:55.000 There you go.

01:45:56.000 It's not going. 0.99

01:45:57.000 Why don't you play the f***ing game? 0.99

01:46:00.000 Are they gonna f***? 0.99

01:46:00.000 Like, what's going on? 0.99

01:46:01.000 What is this?

01:46:04.000 He's all up on it.

01:46:04.000 Figure it out.

01:46:05.000 Figure the fuck out, Steven. 0.95

01:46:06.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:46:07.000 No, no, no, no.

01:46:08.000 You know how to play it.

01:46:09.000 Come on.

01:46:09.000 You told me you know how to play it.

01:46:10.000 You can play it.

01:46:11.000 You're a good guy.

01:46:12.000 Oh, you're so good.

01:46:13.000 Wait, you're so good.

01:46:14.000 Wait, I didn't know you were so good at this game.

01:46:16.000 With our time in Austin out of the way, it was time for the second stop on our journey, Alexandria, Louisiana.

01:46:21.000 There, we met up with Kennedy and Baker of Intuitive Defense on YouTube.

01:46:24.000 Where can we find your stuff on YouTube for the fans at home?

01:46:27.000 At intuitivedefense.com. 1.00

01:46:29.000 I knew that in case there was an armed conflict, Destiny needed to put the Soylent down for a moment and pick up a Glock to defend himself from the Libtard horde. 1.00

01:46:37.000 Alright, so we're on route currently to shoot guns with Destiny. 1.00

01:46:41.000 We're in Alexandria, Louisiana.

01:46:43.000 I've never been somewhere with, like, so much nothing.

01:46:47.000 Keep in mind, I'm from, like, New England.

01:46:48.000 I'm from, like, a small town in New England.

01:46:50.000 We're going to be saving America from the diggity.

01:46:53.000 What's up, D?

01:46:54.000 Yeah, dude.

01:46:55.000 Anything for you.

01:46:56.000 So, I feel like you haven't been in enough controversy.

01:46:58.000 And obviously, you need just a little more.

01:47:01.000 No, come back, come back! 1.00

01:47:03.000 I'm defending this country against the soy libtards like you! 1.00

01:47:06.000 Cuck! 1.00

01:47:08.000 He's running away.

01:47:09.000 I'm gonna go get him.

01:47:15.000 I'll defend America.

01:47:16.000 I'll defend America.

01:47:17.000 I'm gonna fight for Nancy Pelosi.

01:47:22.000 Matt Gaetz owns you!

01:47:23.000 Matt Gaetz owns you, little bro.

01:47:24.000 The right wing owns you.

01:47:25.000 The right owns you. 0.99

01:47:26.000 I'm gonna cuck you so hard. 1.00

01:47:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:31.000 Alright.

01:47:32.000 Okay, you know what?

01:47:38.000 Okay.

01:47:39.000 Alright, I think I've had enough.

01:47:41.000 I think I've had enough of this.

01:47:44.000 What are we watching?

01:47:46.000 It's making me embarrassed.

01:47:48.000 I'm not even in it and I'm embarrassed by it.

01:47:51.000 I'm embarrassed to be watching it in front of you.

01:47:56.000 Bruh.

01:47:59.000 Yeah.

01:48:00.000 Yikes department.

01:48:03.000 Okay.

01:48:04.000 Yeah.

01:48:04.000 I think that's gonna... I think I've seen enough of this.

01:48:10.000 Are we good to move on?

01:48:11.000 Maybe we'll revisit it later.

01:48:13.000 But yeah, I think I'm... I don't need to watch any more of this.

01:48:17.000 I'm pleased to announce my new tour for 2024.

01:48:21.000 Beginning in early February and running through June, Tammy and I, an assortment of special guests, are going to visit 51 cities in the U.S.

01:48:29.000 You can find out more information about this on my website, JordanBPeterson.com, as well as accessing all relevant... So I guess we might as well start by letting the people who don't know who you are get to know who you are with a little bit more precision.

01:48:47.000 You understand, I feel like they're promoting him now because he's pro-Israel.

01:48:51.000 I feel like that's a big part of this, because he's like a... Yeah, you know, now that I'm saying it makes perfect sense, like... Because Destiny made a very calculated decision to come out as pro-Israel after the October 7th thing, and since then he's been with Shapiro, he's been with Jordan Peterson, they're both The Daily Wire, and it's almost like...

01:49:12.000 Because of course the pro-Israel right-wing people hate that the left is now anti-Israel.

01:49:18.000 They hate that there are so many anti-Israel people on the left.

01:49:22.000 So it seems like the Jewish right, the pro-Israel right, is elevating destiny as an acceptable version of left-wing politics that isn't anti-Israel. 0.86

01:49:33.000 Because all the other ones, the pro-BLM, the socialists, militant identity politics, non-whites, they're all pro-Palestine. 0.80

01:49:43.000 Destiny evidently is maybe one of the only pro, like, very pro-Israel ones. 0.79

01:49:50.000 So that would explain why he's making the rounds, especially at Daily Wire.

01:49:55.000 And they were being sympathetic towards him.

01:49:57.000 Same thing with Alex Jones.

01:50:01.000 It's a pretty broad question.

01:50:03.000 I think I started streaming around 15 years ago when it wasn't really a thing yet.

01:50:08.000 There were a few people that... on my main channel.

01:50:11.000 I think I probably do between all three... It's crazy because Destiny is literally does drugs, is a total degenerate, 1.00

01:50:20.000 Twice divorced, polyamorous, bisexual, leftist, but he'll be interviewed by Jordan Peterson. 0.98

01:50:29.000 That's what I was talking about earlier with Candace Owens and Dave Rubin.

01:50:34.000 This is the acceptable range of discourse. 1.00

01:50:36.000 If you're a bisexual cuck, 1.00

01:50:39.000 Let's start talking more broadly than on the political side. 1.00

01:51:02.000 How would you characterize the difference, in your opinion, between the left and the conservative political viewpoints?

01:51:15.000 On a very, very, very broad level, if there's some

01:51:20.000 I would say if there's some, like, good world that we're all aiming for, I think people on the left seem to think that a collection of taxes from a large population that goes into a government that's able to precisely kind of dole out where that tax money goes, you're basically able to take the problems of society, you're able to scrape off, hopefully, a not super significant amount of money from people that can afford to give a lot of money, and then through government programs and redistribution, you target that

01:51:51.000 Those taxes, essentially, to people that kind of need whatever bare minimum to take advantage of opportunities in society.

01:51:57.000 And then on the conservative end, I guess a conservative would generally think that, why would the government take my money?

01:52:04.000 I think from a community point of view, through churches, through community action, through families, we can better allocate our own dollars to our own friends and family to help them and give them the things that they need so that they can better participate and thrive in society, basically.

01:52:16.000 Okay, so one of the things that I've always found a mystery, and I think there's an equal mystery on the left and on the right in this regard, is that the more conservative types tend to be very skeptical of big government, and the leftist types tend to be more skeptical of big corporations.

01:52:36.000 Okay, so following through the logic that you just laid out, you made the suggestion that one of the things that characterizes people on the left is the belief that government can and should act as an agent of distribution.

01:52:51.000 A potential problem for that is the gigantism of the government that does that.

01:52:56.000 Now the conservatives are skeptical about gigantism and likewise the liberals, the progressives in particular, we'll call them progressives, are skeptical of the reach of gigantic corporations.

01:53:09.000 And I've always seen a commonality in those two in that both of them are skeptical of gigantism.

01:53:15.000 And so one of the things that I

01:53:19.000 Concerned about, generally speaking, with regard to the potential for the rise of tyranny, is the emergence of giants.

01:53:28.000 One potential problem with the view that the government can and should act as an agent of redistribution is that there is an incentive put in place.

01:53:36.000 Two kinds of incentives.

01:53:38.000 Number one, a major league incentive towards gigantism and tyranny.

01:53:42.000 And number two, an incentive for psychopaths who use compassion to justify their grip on power to take money and to claim that they're doing good.

01:53:53.000 And I see that happening everywhere now, particularly in the name of compassion.

01:53:57.000 And it's one of the things that's made me very skeptical, in particular about the left, and at least about the progressive edge of the left.

01:54:06.000 So I'm curious about what you think about those two.

01:54:09.000 First of all, it's a paradox to me.

01:54:11.000 That the conservatives and the leftists face off each other with regard to their concern about different forms of gigantism and don't seem to notice that the thing that unites them is some antipathy.

01:54:23.000 This is especially true for the libertarians, some antipathy towards gigantic structures per se.

01:54:29.000 And so then I would say with regards to your antithesis between

01:54:34.000 Liberalism and conservatives.

01:54:35.000 The conservatives are pointing to the fact that there are intermediary forms of distribution that can be utilized to solve the social problems that you're describing that don't bring with them the associated problem of gigantism.

01:54:50.000 It's been shocking to me to watch the left, especially in the last six years, ally itself, for example, with pharmaceutical companies, which was something I'd never thought I would see in my lifetime.

01:55:04.000 For decades, the only gigantic corporations the left was more skeptical of than the fossil fuel companies were the pharmaceutical companies.

01:55:14.000 And that all seemed to vanish overnight around the COVID time.

01:55:18.000 So, I know the story.

01:55:19.000 That's a lot of things to throw at you, but it sort of outlines the territory that we could probably investigate productively.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, so a couple things.

01:55:29.000 I would say that the current political landscape we have, I think, is less—I understand the concept of conservatives supporting corporations and liberals supporting large government.

01:55:39.000 I think today the divide we're starting to see more and more is more of like a populist, anti-populist rise or even like an institutional or anti-institutional rise.

01:55:48.000 So, for instance, I think conservatives today in the United States are largely characterized with, I would say, with populism.

01:55:55.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

01:56:15.000 That's a strange thing because it makes the modern conservatives a lot more like the 60s leftists.

01:56:21.000 Potentially, yeah.

01:56:23.000 I mean, that brings us into the issue, too, of whether the left-right divide is actually a reasonable way of construing the current political landscape at all.

01:56:30.000 And I'm not sure it is.

01:56:32.000 Right now, it kind of is, but only because so many conservatives are following Trump.

01:56:36.000 So, like, your populist, anti-populist thing kind of maps on kind of cleanly to the left and right.

01:56:41.000 It doesn't work with progressives, though, or the far left, because they're also anti-large everything.

01:56:46.000 So, in a surprising way, on very, very far left people, you might find them having a bit more in common with kind of like a MAGA Trump supporter than like a center-left liberal.

01:56:55.000 So, for instance, like both of these groups of people on the very far left will be very dovish on foreign policy, probably a little bit more isolationist.

01:57:02.000 They're not a big fan of like a ton of immigration or a ton of trade with other countries.

01:57:06.000 They might think that there's a lot of institutional capture of both government and corporations, so both all of the MAGA supporters and the far, far left might think that corporations don't have our best interest at heart and the government is corrupt and captured by lobbyists.

01:57:18.000 Yeah, you'll see a lot of overlap there.

01:57:20.000 Right.

01:57:22.000 I think that sometimes there's a couple things.

01:57:24.000 One is just something I feel like I've discovered.

01:57:26.000 People have no principles.

01:57:28.000 I think that people are largely guided by whatever is kind of satisfying them or making them feel good at the time.

01:57:33.000 I think it's a really important thing to understand because people's beliefs will seem to change at random.

01:57:38.000 If you're trying to imagine that a belief is coming from some underlying

01:57:43.000 principle or is governed by some internal, you know, like moral or reasonable code or whatever.

01:57:48.000 I think generally there are large social groups and people kind of follow them along from thing to thing, which is why you end up in strange worlds sometimes where, you know, like the position on vaccines and being an anti-vaxxer might have been seen as something, you know, 10 years ago it was kind of like a hippie leftist and now maybe it's more like a conservative or it's associated more with like MAGA Trump supporters or whatever.

01:58:08.000 I think as a result of how the social groups move around.

01:58:12.000 When it comes to the — you mentioned this, like, gigantism thing.

01:58:15.000 That's another thing where I'm not sure if people actually care about gigantism or if they're using it as a proxy for other things that they don't like.

01:58:22.000 Like, I could totally imagine — Well, I care about it.

01:58:24.000 Sure, yeah, you might.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, sorry, I just mean in general.

01:58:27.000 That's okay.

01:58:28.000 Because, like, I could imagine somebody saying that, like, they don't trust, like, a large government, they think there's too much, you know, prone to tyranny or something like that, but also be supportive of an institution like the Catholic Church, which is literally, you know, one guy who is a direct line to God.

01:58:39.000 Right, but they can't tax. 0.99

01:58:41.000 And they don't have a military.

01:58:44.000 And they can't conscript you.

01:58:45.000 True, yeah.

01:58:46.000 And they can't throw you in jail.

01:58:48.000 That is true, yeah.

01:58:49.000 Well, those are major... Boom!

01:58:51.000 Boom! 1.00

01:58:52.000 Eat shit! 1.00

01:58:53.000 Just get annihilated! 1.00

01:58:56.000 W. Jordan Peterson. 0.99

01:58:58.000 W. Jordan Peterson, defense of the Catholics?

01:59:01.000 I mean, I get that.

01:59:02.000 I get the overlap.

01:59:03.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:59:03.000 Sure.

01:59:04.000 But I'm saying, like, even if you had a local government, like a local, like if you had a state government or tribe, usually they've got some form of enacting punishment.

01:59:09.000 It'll be sometimes more brutal, but they can throw you in jail.

01:59:12.000 Conscription hasn't existed in the U.S.

01:59:14.000 since the Vietnam War.

01:59:15.000 Yet.

01:59:16.000 I mean, yet.

01:59:17.000 W. W. Dude.

01:59:18.000 Dude. 0.95

01:59:18.000 Serious old head. 0.95

01:59:24.000 Let's go back to the redistribution issue.

01:59:26.000 I mean, we pay 65% of our income at

01:59:47.000 Say, upper middle class, middle class to upper middle class level in Canada.

01:59:51.000 It isn't obvious to me at all that that money is well used.

01:59:54.000 In fact, quite the contrary.

01:59:56.000 In my country now, our citizens make 60%, they produce 60% of what you produce in the US.

02:00:04.000 That's plummeted over the last 20 years as state intervention has increased.

02:00:08.000 I'm not convinced that the claim that

02:00:16.000 The interests of people who lack opportunity are best served by state intervention.

02:00:21.000 And there's a couple of reasons for that.

02:00:23.000 I mean, first of all, I'm aware of the relationship between inequality and social problem.

02:00:30.000 There's a very well-developed literature on that, and it essentially shows that the more arbitrary, the broader the reach of inequality in a political institution of any given size, the more social unrest.

02:00:44.000 So where all people are poor, there isn't much social unrest.

02:00:48.000 And where all people are rich, there isn't much social unrest.

02:00:50.000 But when there's a big gap between the two, there's plenty.

02:00:53.000 And that's mostly driven by disaffected young men who aren't very happy that they can't climb the hierarchy.

02:00:59.000 There are barriers in their way.

02:01:02.000 And so there is reason to ameliorate relative poverty.

02:01:06.000 The problem with that, to some degree, is that most attempts to ameliorate relative poverty tend to increase absolute poverty.

02:01:13.000 And they do it dramatically.

02:01:14.000 And the only solution that we've ever been able to develop to that is something approximating a free market system.

02:01:19.000 I wouldn't call it a capitalist system, because I think that's capture of the terminology by the radical leftists.

02:01:26.000 It's a free exchange system.

02:01:28.000 The price you pay for a free exchange system is you still have inequality, but the advantage you gain is that the absolute levels of privation plummet.

02:01:37.000 And I think the data on that are, I think they're absolutely conclusive.

02:01:41.000 Especially, and that's been especially demonstrated in the radical decrease in rates of poverty since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989.

02:01:49.000 Because we've lifted more people out of poverty in the last four decades than we had in the entire course of human history up to that date.

02:01:55.000 And that's not least because

02:01:57.000 The statist interventionist types who argued for a radical state-sponsored redistribution lost the Cold War.

02:02:06.000 And that freed up Africa to some degree and certainly the Southeast Asian countries to pursue something like a free trade economy.

02:02:14.000 And that instantly made them rich.

02:02:15.000 Even China.

02:02:21.000 That's an argument, let's say, on the side of free exchange, but it's also a two-fold argument pointing out how we ameliorate absolute poverty, which should be a concern for leftists, but doesn't seem to be anymore, by the way, and also an argument for the maintenance of a necessary inequality.

02:02:39.000 Like, I'm not sure that inequality can be decreased beyond a certain degree without that decrease causing other serious problems.

02:02:47.000 And we can talk about that, but it's a complicated problem.

02:02:50.000 Yeah, but for one point of clarification, when you say leftist, what do you mean by that?

02:02:55.000 Well, I was going with your definition, like essentially the core idea being something like the central problem

02:03:05.000 being one of relative inequality and distribution of resources, and the central solution to that being something like state-sponsored economic intervention.

02:03:14.000 I mean, there's other ways we could define left or right, and we can do that, but I'll stick with the one that you brought forward to begin with.

02:03:21.000 Gotcha, gotcha.

02:03:22.000 Okay, I only want to be clear on that because

02:03:25.000 I don't think so.

02:03:41.000 Well, depending on how you like it.

02:03:43.000 Very rapidly.

02:03:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:45.000 I just wanted to be clear on that.

02:03:46.000 So I'm absolutely a pro-capitalist, pro-premarket guy.

02:03:49.000 I'm never gonna... Okay, okay.

02:03:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:52.000 Okay, okay.

02:03:52.000 Well, that's good to get that clear.

02:03:54.000 Why?

02:03:56.000 Because I would argue that when you look at, like, the fall of the Soviet Union, or you look at the failure of, like, socialist or communist regimes, I don't know if the issue there was so much redistribution.

02:04:06.000 I think the problem... That was one of many issues.

02:04:09.000 I don't think it was an issue at all, actually, I would say.

02:04:10.000 I think the issue was, uh, command- Wait a minute, wait a minute.

02:04:14.000 What do you mean redistribution wasn't an issue? 0.99

02:04:16.000 What the hell do you think they did to the kulaks? 1.00

02:04:18.000 Boom! 1.00

02:04:19.000 That was forced redistribution.

02:04:20.000 It resulted in the death of six million people.

02:04:22.000 Yeah, what do you mean?

02:04:23.000 So maybe I'm not understanding what you mean, but that was redistribution at its most pinnacle.

02:04:28.000 Did I hear you right, son?

02:04:29.000 Yeah, listen here.

02:04:30.000 Did I hear you right, sonny?

02:04:33.000 What do you mean? 1.00

02:04:34.000 Get over here, bitch. 1.00

02:04:36.000 Get over here! 1.00

02:04:47.000 In the clutches of Jordan Peterson.

02:04:49.000 The ability for markets to dynamically respond to shifting consumer demand is like the reason why capitalism and free market economies dominate the world.

02:04:57.000 When you've got socialist or communist systems, command economies, where a government is trying to say, this is how much this is going to cost, this is how much you're going to produce and make, this is a failed way of managing a state economy.

02:05:08.000 Even in places where they still do it, there are always shadow economies and stuff.

02:05:11.000 There were in the Soviet Union that prop up where people tried to

02:05:15.000 Basically ameliorate the conditions that are resulting from said horrible command economy practices.

02:05:20.000 So I guess in a way you could argue a command economy is kind of like redistribution.

02:05:23.000 You're talking about the socialist calculation problem and the price mechanism.

02:05:29.000 That's what you're talking about.

02:05:30.000 A form of it, but... No, it's a worse problem.

02:05:32.000 If you're pointing to the fact that that's a worse problem, I'm with you 100%.

02:05:36.000 Yeah, I would say that's definitely the reason why these places failed because they just weren't able to respond to changing conditions.

02:05:41.000 Okay, so what's the difference between...

02:05:45.000 Going online without ExpressVPN is like leaving your kids with the nearest stranger while you go to the restroom.

02:05:50.000 They're probably not a kidnapper or a serial killer, but why would you phase and steal on the internet or abuse devices?

02:05:58.000 You're on R.E.M.

02:05:59.000 Okay, so what's the difference between a state that attempts to redistribute to foster equality of opportunity and a command economy?

02:06:07.000 Is it a difference of a degree?

02:06:09.000 Like, are you looking at models

02:06:11.000 Let's say, like, the Scandinavian countries, or... I wouldn't use Canada, by the way, because Canada is now... It's crazy how, like, conservatives like Jordan Peterson are still in this conversation about socialism versus capitalism.

02:06:29.000 Seriously?

02:06:32.000 Like, those are obviously not the most pressing problems.

02:06:35.000 The biggest reality of the world today 0.51

02:06:41.000 Is the Global South migration to the North. 0.94

02:06:43.000 That's the biggest problem.

02:06:44.000 It's not about the economic system or the extent of private ownership or the tax burden in the Western European countries. 0.99

02:06:54.000 It's a mass migration of Africans and Arabs into Europe and of everybody into the United States.

02:07:02.000 That is the central issue.

02:07:06.000 But still, like, I feel like I'm back in high school.

02:07:10.000 It's 2014 all over again.

02:07:12.000 We're having conversation about, well, the problem with socialism is that they don't know how much stuff to make because capitalism has all of the consumers and producers in the market contributing information through the price mechanism.

02:07:30.000 The definition of economy is about relative scarcity.

02:07:33.000 Like, are we really doing this?

02:07:35.000 So when you say redistribution, do you mean like the Scandinavian model?

02:07:41.000 Social democracy?

02:07:42.000 Seriously?

02:07:43.000 2024, this is what we're talking about?

02:07:49.000 What would you call it?

02:07:50.000 Predicted by economic analysts to have the worst performing economy for the next four decades of all the developed world.

02:07:58.000 So maybe we'll just leave the example of Canada off the table.

02:08:01.000 Scandinavian countries are often the polities that are pointed to by, I would say, by people who, at least in part, are putting forward a view of

02:08:11.000 They're not homogenous, they're homogeneous.

02:08:13.000 Big difference.

02:08:13.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:08:13.000 Socialist healthcare in Finland does not work in the United States because it has a small homogeneous population.

02:08:19.000 How many times have we heard this argument?

02:08:40.000 Over the last 10 years, you're trying to flatten out the redistribution.

02:08:45.000 Plus, they are also incredibly wealthy, which makes redistribution, let's say, a lot easier.

02:08:52.000 So why doesn't a government that's bent on redistribution fall prey to the pitfalls of command economy and forced redistribution, for that matter?

02:09:04.000 How do you protect against that?

02:09:06.000 I think what you have to

02:09:07.000 Thank you so much.

02:09:29.000 Capitalism combined with some form of government intervention to control for negative externalities.

02:09:34.000 These are the ways that all economies, even in Scandinavia and the world, work.

02:09:37.000 And I think that recognizing the benefits of both systems are the best way to make things work.

02:09:42.000 Fair enough.

02:09:43.000 And the Scandinavian countries seem to have done a pretty good job of that.

02:09:47.000 But like I said, they have a simpler problem to solve, let's say, than the Americans have.

02:09:51.000 Negative externalities.

02:09:54.000 You know, that's an interesting rabbit hole to wander down, because the problem I have with negative externalities—you made a case already that—and again, correct me if I've got this wrong, but I think that I understood what you said.

02:10:09.000 A free market, free exchange economy is a gigantic distributed computational device.

02:10:15.000 Basically, yeah.

02:10:15.000 Right, exactly.

02:10:16.000 Which, funnily enough, one of the big problems for command economies is called the computation problem because no central body can actually compute.

02:10:22.000 Calculation problem.

02:10:23.000 You know, the... Right, exactly.

02:10:25.000 Right, that's not... I'm a Jew, Friedrich Hayek.

02:10:29.000 Because it's all Jewish, okay? 1.00

02:10:31.000 This whole Chicago school, neoliberal economics, all comes from Jews. 0.99

02:10:38.000 Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, and then you've got the Austrian schools, Ludwig von Mises. 1.00

02:10:45.000 It's all Jewish. 1.00

02:10:47.000 Comes from the Mont Pelerin Society. 1.00

02:10:49.000 Comes from Irving Kristol.

02:10:52.000 Two cheers for capitalism.

02:10:56.000 Or atheists, you know, guys like David Knight. 0.98

02:11:00.000 That's a fatal problem, right? 0.84

02:11:02.000 Because it doesn't have the computational power.

02:11:04.000 It certainly doesn't have the speed of data recognition.

02:11:08.000 It doesn't have the on-the-ground agents, if all of the perception and decision-making is centralized, right?

02:11:14.000 It's way too low resolution.

02:11:15.000 It's going to crash.

02:11:16.000 Okay.

02:11:16.000 So, and I think that that's comprehensible technically, as well as ideologically.

02:11:21.000 All right.

02:11:22.000 So, but having said that,

02:11:26.000 With regards to externalities, all the externalities that a market economy can't compute are so complex that they can't be determined centrally by the same argument.

02:11:40.000 There are ways to account for them, though.

02:11:43.000 Really?

02:11:43.000 Tell me how.

02:11:44.000 Because I can't see that.

02:11:46.000 Because I can't see how they can be accounted for without the same computational problem immediately arising.

02:11:54.000 Yeah, and I understand that.

02:11:56.000 I think that's a problem sometimes of people very far on the left when they want to deal with certain problems.

02:12:01.000 I think that they want to bring, like, heavy-handed, you know, like, things like price controls in to say, well, we need less of this, so let's just make this cost this particular thing.

02:12:08.000 Which, ironically enough, introduces a whole other set of externalities that will happen when you get a lot of friction between where your price floor or ceiling is set compared to what a market would set it at.

02:12:16.000 We're good to go!

02:12:46.000 Great.

02:12:46.000 That's a great example.

02:12:47.000 We can go right down that rabbit hole.

02:12:48.000 Carbon.

02:12:48.000 Okay, so first of all,

02:13:07.000 One of the things I've seen, you tell me what you think about this, something that I've seen that actually shocks me, that I was interested in watching over the last five or six years.

02:13:17.000 I wondered what would happen when the left, the progressives, ran into a conundrum.

02:13:23.000 And the conundrum is quite straightforward.

02:13:25.000 If you pursue carbon pricing and you make energy more expensive, then you hurt the poor.

02:13:30.000 And I don't think you just hurt them.

02:13:32.000 In fact, I know you just don't hurt them.

02:13:35.000 I heard a man two days ago who's fed 350 million people in the course of his life, heading the UN's largest relief agency.

02:13:45.000 Make the claim quite straightforwardly that misappropriation on the part of interventionist governments increased the rate of absolute privation dramatically in the world over the last four or five years.

02:13:59.000 And that has happened not least because of carbon pricing.

02:14:02.000 Not just carbon pricing, but the insistence that carbon per se is an externality that we should control.

02:14:09.000 Now, Germany's paid a radical price for that, for example, so their power is now about five times as expensive as it could be.

02:14:15.000 And they pollute more per unit of power than they did 10 years ago, before they introduced these policies that were hypothetically there to account for externality.

02:14:24.000 And the externality was carbon dioxide.

02:14:26.000 I don't think that's a computable externality.

02:14:28.000 And I don't think there's any evidence whatsoever that it's actually an externality that we should be warping the economic system to ameliorate if the cost of that, and it will be, will be an increase in absolute privation among the world's poor.

02:14:43.000 So here's an additional argument on that front with regards to externalities.

02:14:48.000 You get that wrong, and here's something you could get right instead.

02:14:52.000 If you ameliorate absolute poverty among the world's one billion poorest, they take a longer view of the future.

02:14:59.000 And that means they become environmentally aware.

02:15:02.000 And so the fastest route to a sustainable planet could well be the remediation of absolute poverty.

02:15:08.000 And the best route to that is cheap energy.

02:15:11.000 And we're interfering with the development of cheap energy by meddling with the hypothetically detrimental externality of carbon dioxide.

02:15:20.000 And so

02:15:23.000 I think this is a complete bloody travesty, by the way.

02:15:26.000 We are putting the lives of hundreds of millions of people directly at risk, right now, to hypothetically save people in the future, depending on the accuracy of our projections.

02:15:37.000 A hundred years out, these interventionists, these people who are remediating externalities, they actually believe that they can calculate an economic projection one century out.

02:15:49.000 That's utterly delusional.

02:15:52.000 Okay, so to be clear on the first thing, I was just giving an example of how you can use a government intervention to make a free market track something, which is what cap and trade or carbon taxes would do.

02:16:03.000 I wasn't necessarily speaking to the strength of that individual thing.

02:16:06.000 Yeah, but that's a good thing to focus on, because that's a major externality.

02:16:10.000 We can focus on that as well.

02:16:11.000 So, the first thing, this is going to sound mean, but I'm, you know, I'm very realistic.

02:16:17.000 There needs to be a better argument than just, it disproportionately impacts the poor.

02:16:21.000 That's a classic leftist argument.

02:16:23.000 It might be.

02:16:24.000 But it's the same argument you made to justify your swing to the left at the beginning of our discussion.

02:16:29.000 You said that you were looking at economic inequalities that disproportionately affected the poor.

02:16:34.000 So I can't see why

02:16:36.000 And I'm not trying to be mean about this either.

02:16:39.000 I can't see why you could base your argument that it was morally appropriate for you to swing to the left from your previous position because you saw disproportionate effects on the poor, and I can't use that argument in the situation that I'm presenting it right now.

02:16:53.000 Well, because it depends on if we think it's a condition that ought to be remedied or not.

02:16:56.000 For instance, if I walk around and I see homeless people and I'm like, man, this is really sad.

02:17:00.000 We ought to spend more money on homeless people because it seems like they're disproportionately affected by their living conditions.

02:17:05.000 And then somebody says, oh, well, do you think we should still lock up rapists and murderers?

02:17:09.000 Aren't they disproportionately poor?

02:17:11.000 I'd probably say, well, yeah, we probably shouldn't. 0.96

02:17:12.000 I'd go, well, isn't that hypocritical?

02:17:13.000 Well, no, I think that rapists and murderers should probably be in jail, but we can also help the homeless at the same time.

02:17:18.000 I think that just helping the poor isn't an argument, like a blank check to do every possible thing to satisfy poorer people.

02:17:27.000 Right, I agree.

02:17:27.000 And it's going to depend on each issue.

02:17:29.000 Yeah, that's fine.

02:17:29.000 But that's because the poor, everyone who's poor is not a victim.

02:17:34.000 Some people who are poor are psychopathic perpetrators.

02:17:37.000 Sure. 0.72

02:17:37.000 And it's very useful to distinguish them. 0.72

02:17:38.000 But I was making a much more specific argument.

02:17:41.000 My argument was that the fastest way out of absolute privation for the world's bottom billion people is through cheap energy.

02:17:48.000 Yeah, I understand what you're saying there.

02:17:49.000 Sorry, just working my way towards that.

02:17:51.000 Yeah, I just want to say that just because something targets the poor is not necessarily an argument against it.

02:17:55.000 It depends on how hard it targets them and it depends on whether mass starvation is the outcome.

02:18:00.000 The outcome is important. 0.96

02:18:01.000 That I agree with.

02:18:01.000 So, for instance, like a sin tax... The outcome will be masturbation in this situation.

02:18:06.000 Yeah, I'm getting to it, okay? 0.98

02:18:07.000 Sin taxes on, like, cigarettes and alcohol... He's just getting cooked.

02:18:10.000 He's just getting absolutely cooked.

02:18:12.000 Because he has no mental rigor.

02:18:14.000 And Jordan Peterson's exactly right.

02:18:16.000 He's saying, okay, and Destiny gave me the same explanation.

02:18:19.000 Okay, so you became a leftist because you want to create equality of opportunity through redistribution, through redistributive programs like

02:18:28.000 Taxing the rich to pay for public education or to pour more money into public education, which is in itself like a ridiculous argument.

02:18:36.000 But he said, oh, I want, I'm a leftist because I support, you know, expanding the social safety net or social programs.

02:18:43.000 In other words, we need to lift people out of poverty.

02:18:47.000 Then when it comes to energy, and Jordan Peterson's right about this too, even though I think Daily Wire is probably captured by

02:18:55.000 Energy industry, because it was given seed money by the Wilt brothers.

02:18:59.000 I think that's why a lot of Republicans are in favor of it, even though I also agree.

02:19:03.000 I mean, it's true.

02:19:05.000 He says the best way to lift people out of poverty is cheap energy, because it's true.

02:19:09.000 I mean, energy is really the backbone of the economy because that's what literally everything runs on.

02:19:15.000 And if you make the energy extremely costly, which is what renewables are,

02:19:20.000 I don't know.

02:19:36.000 Destiny says well, you know, but that's not a good enough argument just because the poor people be worse off doesn't mean that You know, we shouldn't you know, we'll have to wait here what the explanation is, but it's clear that there's just no rigor It's not his his way of thinking is not a closed loop.

02:19:51.000 It's completely ad hoc.

02:19:53.000 It's all like well, I

02:19:54.000 I feel bad for poor people, so we should make the social programs better.

02:19:58.000 Well, but I also feel like carbon is bad.

02:20:00.000 I also feel like too much pollution is a negative externality, so, you know, we should do carbon tax credits and regulate it that way.

02:20:11.000 So the guy just has no rigor to his thinking at all.

02:20:14.000 That was very evident when he talked to Shapiro as well.

02:20:17.000 When Destiny talked to Ben Shapiro, and you know, I don't like Ben Shapiro.

02:20:20.000 I don't agree with him. 0.98

02:20:21.000 I think that Ben Shapiro looks at everything through the lens of what's best for Israel because he's a Jew, and that's just apparent by the way that he runs the company and the way that he talks, the articles he writes, what he chooses to focus on. 0.96

02:20:35.000 But Shapiro is intelligent. 0.70

02:20:38.000 He is well-read.

02:20:40.000 And he is a sharp thinker.

02:20:42.000 When Destiny goes up against these guys like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, it's clear he's completely out of his depth.

02:20:49.000 Like, he just doesn't belong in the same room as these guys.

02:20:51.000 Because he's just, one, not that smart, hasn't thought through all his positions, doesn't know that much.

02:20:58.000 So, that's why in stuff like this he just keeps retreating.

02:21:02.000 Just like in the Ben Shapiro conversation, it's just like a constant retreat.

02:21:07.000 Okay, so why do you support government programs?

02:21:09.000 Well, I don't support communism or socialism.

02:21:12.000 I just support, like, welfare, man.

02:21:16.000 Okay, so, like, what?

02:21:17.000 Well, carbon tax credits.

02:21:19.000 Well, those don't work.

02:21:20.000 Well, the literature says that those don't work and those cause poverty and you said that you became a leftist because you want to solve poverty.

02:21:26.000 Well, hey, hang on, hang on, hang on.

02:21:28.000 I'm not specifically talking about that and I don't know anything about that.

02:21:31.000 So it's just like a ceaseless retreat because

02:21:36.000 He doesn't really know what he's talking about on any issue.

02:21:42.000 ...are always going to disproportionately impact the poor.

02:21:44.000 Or even sugar, we might say, right?

02:21:46.000 But just because that disproportionately impacts the poor, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

02:21:49.000 These are probably the people that suffer the most from those particular afflictions.

02:21:52.000 Right, right.

02:21:53.000 And that is an immediate versus delayed issue, too, right?

02:21:57.000 Is it immediate?

02:21:58.000 I mean, obesity isn't immediate.

02:22:00.000 I mean, the reason for the tax is to stop people from

02:22:05.000 Pursuing a certain form of short-term gratification at the cost of their longer-term well-being.

02:22:10.000 Correct.

02:22:11.000 And that exact same idea, if you believe climate models, or if you believe that we're heading in a certain direction in terms of climate and the overall warming of the planet, would be the same argument you would make for climate change.

02:22:22.000 Only if you believe that you could model economic development 100 years into the future.

02:22:27.000 Well, we're not trying to model, we're more concerned with modeling climate development, economic development.

02:22:30.000 No, no, no.

02:22:31.000 We are equally, no, well, okay, tell me how I'm wrong.

02:22:34.000 I don't believe that because what I see happening is two things.

02:22:37.000 We have climate models that purport to explain what's going to happen over a century on the climate side, but we have economic models layered right on top of those that claim that there's going to be various forms of disaster for human beings economically as a consequence of that climate change.

02:22:53.000 And so that's like two towers of babble stacked on top of one another.

02:22:57.000 And so, because if people were just saying, oh, the climate's going to change, there'd be no moral impetus in that.

02:23:02.000 It's the climate's going to change and that's going to be disastrous for the biosphere and for humanity.

02:23:08.000 But that's an economic argument as well as a climate-based argument.

02:23:12.000 It's both, but the worst projections of what would happen if the climate took a disastrous turn are worse than the worst projections of what is our planet going to look like economically if we hardcore police fossil fuels.

02:23:25.000 I don't understand the distinction between the models.

02:23:28.000 Well, the argument would be that whatever pain and suffering poor people might endure right now because of a move towards green energy, that pain and suffering is going to be short-term and far less than the long-term pain and suffering that comes along with it.

02:23:39.000 Right, but that's dependent on the integrity of the economic models.

02:23:42.000 And the climate models as well, right?

02:23:44.000 Exactly.

02:23:45.000 But in exactly the stacked manner that I described.

02:23:48.000 There's nobody in 1890 who could have predicted what was going to happen in 1990 economically.

02:23:54.000 Not a bit.

02:23:55.000 Not a bit.

02:23:57.000 And if we think we can predict

02:23:59.000 like 50 years out now with the current rate of technology and calculate the potential impact of climate change on economic flourishing for human beings, we're deluded.

02:24:09.000 No one can do that.

02:24:10.000 And then, and so, and it's worse.

02:24:12.000 So imagine that as you do that, and you project outward, your margin of error increases.

02:24:17.000 That's absolutely, definitely the case.

02:24:20.000 And at some point, certainly on the climate side, the margin of error gets rapidly to the point where it subsumes any estimate of the degree to which the climate is going to transform.

02:24:29.000 And that happens even more rapidly on the economic side.

02:24:32.000 Potentially.

02:24:33.000 I think right now this is a disagreement on the fact of the matter, though, not the philosophy of what we're talking about in terms of controlling externalities.

02:24:39.000 So I'm curious.

02:24:40.000 Let's say that we think we can accurately predict the climate and the economic impact, and we think that the climate impact would be far worse if we don't account for that, both in terms of human conditions and— I don't believe any of those presumptions.

02:24:51.000 Sure, but then if you don't, but I mean like obviously if I agreed with that factual analysis, I would probably agree with you on the prescription here too, right?

02:24:59.000 If none of the climate models were accurate or couldn't accurately predict anything, then I'd also say why make them?

02:25:03.000 Well, they're not sufficiently accurate.

02:25:06.000 That's the first thing.

02:25:07.000 And second, because they have a margin of error, and it's a large margin of error.

02:25:10.000 They don't even model cloud coverage well.

02:25:12.000 That's a big problem.

02:25:13.000 They don't have the resolution.

02:25:15.000 They don't have nearly the resolution to produce the accuracy that's claimed by the climate apocalypse mongers.

02:25:21.000 People keep saying that, but we just got another one of the hottest years on record.

02:25:26.000 How many times are we going to have another hottest year on record?

02:25:29.000 How many times are we going to have an increase of carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere before we're finally like, okay.

02:25:33.000 I don't know.

02:25:34.000 And the reason I don't know is because it depends.

02:25:37.000 The scientific answer to that question depends precisely on the time frame over which you evaluate the climate fluctuation.

02:25:44.000 And that's actually an intractable scientific problem.

02:25:47.000 So you might say, well, if you take the last 100 years, this variation looks pretty dismal.

02:25:52.000 And I'd say, well, what if you took the last 150,000 years?

02:25:55.000 Or the last 10,000?

02:25:56.000 Or the last 10 million? 0.99

02:25:59.000 You can't specify the damn time frame of analysis. 0.98

02:26:01.000 No, no, no. 0.99

02:26:01.000 The time frame is incredibly important. 0.99

02:26:03.000 That would be like saying, look at your, you know, let's say somebody developed cancer and they didn't realize it.

02:26:08.000 By the way, now come up with a convoluted hypothetical.

02:26:11.000 Do you realize that he doesn't know anything?

02:26:13.000 So every time he runs into a problem, he gets out of the problem by creating a convoluted hypothetical?

02:26:20.000 Because, you know, and of course that is a classic argument against climate change is that

02:26:28.000 When you look at the record of the climate, one, there's so many variables like, you know, first of all, how do you even measure the climate?

02:26:38.000 Is it the temperature of the ocean?

02:26:39.000 Is it the temperature of the atmosphere?

02:26:41.000 You know, so how you record it is a problem, but then there's also variables that affect the climate, like the distance of the Earth with the Sun, and the type of Sun cycle, and all that stuff.

02:26:53.000 And then you say, okay, well,

02:26:56.000 We're looking at a particular climate trend, and like Peterson says, is this an alarming trend if we're looking at the recorded climate record, which is the last 100 years, or are we estimating out for 100,000 years?

02:27:09.000 Earth is, they say, 4.6 billion years old.

02:27:13.000 Are we looking at the climate over 4 billion years?

02:27:16.000 Is the hottest year on record for one century?

02:27:18.000 Does that make a big difference in the span of a billion years, a million years, a hundred million years?

02:27:25.000 Which is completely correct.

02:27:26.000 And then Desi says, okay, but what about a completely unrelated hypothetical?

02:27:31.000 What about a hypothetical scenario with something completely different?

02:27:35.000 Yeah, okay.

02:27:36.000 And exactly right.

02:27:37.000 What about that?

02:27:40.000 So you just, this guy can say nothing specific or concrete.

02:27:45.000 Give me an example of controlling an externality through government.

02:27:48.000 Climate.

02:27:49.000 Well, that doesn't work.

02:27:50.000 Okay, but we're not talking about the fact of the matter.

02:27:54.000 We're talking about the philosophy of it.

02:27:55.000 I don't mean that specifically.

02:28:00.000 Well, let's say we both agree on climate.

02:28:02.000 Okay, but we don't because that's not true and here's why that's not true.

02:28:05.000 Okay, but what about a hypothetical?

02:28:08.000 So the guy just doesn't know anything.

02:28:09.000 The guy just doesn't know anything concretely.

02:28:11.000 And when there's pushback, he's like, maybe, potentially, well maybe, but what about this?

02:28:17.000 But what about this hypothetical?

02:28:18.000 So it's like, what do you know about?

02:28:20.000 Do you know about carbon tax and the record of the efficacy of that?

02:28:24.000 Do you know about climate change?

02:28:26.000 Do you know about any of these things?

02:28:28.000 Or do you just say things?

02:28:31.000 Like, what has he said concretely so far other than, I believe in a mixed economy?

02:28:36.000 I think that's the only concrete thing he said, and that's because that's like the safest thing that requires no specificity. 0.79

02:28:45.000 I mean, that's basically just inevitability.

02:28:49.000 That's just how the world is, that you're gonna have some things that are privatized and some things that are nationalized.

02:28:56.000 So that's about as specific, that's about as concrete as he'll get.

02:28:59.000 He'll say, well, I believe in a mixed economy.

02:29:02.000 We'll not stand on anything else, because anything else that requires any more specificity, he just simply doesn't have the arguments, doesn't have the knowledge, doesn't have the rigor to back it up with even the most minimal pushback.

02:29:15.000 ...person has lost, you know, 40 or 50 pounds in the past six months.

02:29:19.000 And I'm just like, you look very sickly.

02:29:21.000 You know, like, okay, well, look at my weight fluctuation over the past 10 years.

02:29:23.000 He's like, well, that doesn't really matter.

02:29:24.000 I'm not saying the time frame isn't important.

02:29:27.000 I'm saying that it is important.

02:29:28.000 I'm just saying I don't know how to specify it.

02:29:31.000 Well, you would probably specify it with the beginning of the industrial age, right?

02:29:33.000 Why?

02:29:34.000 Because that's when carbon dioxide, which is a gas that's seen as trapping more heat on the planet... Why is that relevant to the time over which you compute the variability?

02:29:42.000 Because it seems like as carbon dioxide has increased in the atmosphere, the surface temperatures have risen at a rate that is a departure from what we'd expect over 150,000-year cycles of temperature variations on the planet.

02:29:52.000 No, not with that time frame.

02:29:53.000 That's just not the case.

02:29:54.000 Absolutely the case.

02:29:55.000 No, what do you mean?

02:29:56.000 You just flipped to 150,000-year time span.

02:30:00.000 What I'm saying is that if we expect to see a temperature do this in 150,000-year time span, in 100-year time span seeing it do this, that's very worrying.

02:30:08.000 You mean like Michael Mann's hockey stick?

02:30:10.000 The one that's under attack right now in court by a major statistician who claimed that he falsified his data.

02:30:15.000 You mean that spike?

02:30:17.000 I don't know what I said!

02:30:30.000 Guys just, like, has no arguments.

02:30:30.000 No arguments at all.

02:30:32.000 When do we start measuring the Industrial Revolution, but the control is 150,000 years?

02:30:35.000 Oh, really?

02:30:35.000 So, you know, now suddenly it's 150,000 years.

02:30:37.000 Well, I'm talking about the hockey stick.

02:30:38.000 Oh, the hockey stick that's fake?

02:30:59.000 Uh, well, uh, no, I mean, uh, what I mean is, um, uh, basically we're like standing in traffic and nothing is perfect, always just retreating back to platitudes like, like that.

02:31:14.000 Well, no climate model is perfect, but basically we're ignoring the problem.

02:31:21.000 Deniable at this point that there is an impact on climate across the planet.

02:31:25.000 I think that's highly deniable.

02:31:27.000 We have no idea what the impact is from.

02:31:29.000 We don't know where the carbon dioxide is from.

02:31:31.000 We can't measure the warming of the oceans.

02:31:33.000 We have terrible temperature records going back 100 years.

02:31:36.000 Almost all the terrestrial temperature

02:31:41.000 And then you have to correct for the movement of the urban areas and then you introduce an error parameter that's larger than the purported increase in temperature that you're planning to measure.

02:31:57.000 This isn't data, this is guess and there's something weird underneath it.

02:32:01.000 There's something weird that isn't oriented well towards human beings underneath it.

02:32:06.000 It has this guise of compassion.

02:32:08.000 Oh, we're going to save the poor in the future. 0.96

02:32:10.000 It's like that's what the bloody communists said. 0.94

02:32:12.000 And they killed a lot of people doing it. 0.88

02:32:14.000 And we're walking down that same road now.

02:32:17.000 With this insistence that, you know, we're so compassionate that we care about the poor a hundred years from now. 0.97

02:32:22.000 And if we have to wipe out several hundred million of them now, well, that's a small price to pay for the future utopia.

02:32:29.000 And we've heard that sort of thing before.

02:32:32.000 And the alternative to that is to stop having global-level elites plot out a utopian future, or even an anti-dystopian future.

02:32:42.000 And that's exactly what's happening now with organizations like the WEF.

02:32:45.000 And if this wasn't immediately impacting the poor in a devastating manner, I wouldn't care about it that much.

02:32:52.000 But it is.

02:32:54.000 You know, I watched over the course of the last five years the estimates of the number of people who were in serious danger of food privation rise from about 100 million to about 350 million.

02:33:04.000 That's a major price to pay for a little bit of, what would you say, for

02:33:10.000 For progress on the climate front that's so narrow it can't even be measured.

02:33:13.000 I don't think the increase in hungry people on the planet is because of climate policies.

02:33:19.000 Why not?

02:33:20.000 Because I don't think that countries in Africa are being pushed away from fossil fuels.

02:33:24.000 Of course they are!

02:33:24.000 They can't even get loans from the World Bank to pursue fossil fuel development.

02:33:30.000 And there's plenty of African leaders who are screeching at the top of their lungs about that because the elites in the West have decided that

02:33:37.000 Well, it was okay for us to use fossil fuel so that we wouldn't have to starve to death, and our children had some opportunities.

02:33:43.000 But maybe the starving masses that are too large a load for the world anyways shouldn't have that opportunity.

02:33:50.000 And that's direct policy from the UN, fostered by organizations like the WEF.

02:33:56.000 They're going to have to turn to renewables.

02:33:58.000 Yeah, well, good luck with that.

02:34:00.000 Because renewables have no energy density.

02:34:02.000 Besides that, they're not renewable and they're not environmentally friendly.

02:34:06.000 And then one more thing.

02:34:07.000 There's one more weird thing underneath all of this.

02:34:10.000 Okay.

02:34:11.000 Well, let's say if carbon dioxide was actually... I love how he says, okay, like he's not being totally spanked.

02:34:16.000 Like he's not being, he has nothing to say because he doesn't know anything about the subject.

02:34:20.000 He's being totally spanked.

02:34:22.000 Okay.

02:34:23.000 Okay.

02:34:25.000 Because that's all he's got. 1.00

02:34:26.000 That's all he's got is that fucking attitude. 0.99

02:34:44.000 We could drive down the cost of energy with low-cost nuclear, and there'd be no carbon production. 1.00

02:34:49.000 And then the poor people would have something to eat because they'd have enough energy.

02:34:52.000 And that isn't what's happening.

02:34:53.000 And that's one of the things that makes me extremely skeptical of the entire narrative.

02:34:58.000 It's like two things.

02:35:00.000 The left will sacrifice the poor to save the planet.

02:35:03.000 And the left will de-industrialize even at the nuclear level, despite the fact that it devastates the poor.

02:35:10.000 And that's even worse, because if you devastate the poor, and you force them into a short-term orientation, in any given country where starvation beckons, for example, they will cut down all the trees, and they will kill down all the animals, and they will destroy the ecosphere.

02:35:26.000 And so, even by the standards of the people who are pushing the carbon dioxide externality control, all the consequences of that doctrine appear to me to be devastating, even by their own measurement principles.

02:35:41.000 We're trying to fix the environment.

02:35:43.000 Well, boys and girls, it doesn't look like it's working.

02:35:46.000 All you've managed to do is make energy five times as expensive and more polluting.

02:35:51.000 You were wrong.

02:35:52.000 That didn't work.

02:35:54.000 And so, and I can't understand.

02:35:56.000 You can help me.

02:35:56.000 That's why you're here today talking to me.

02:35:58.000 I can't understand how the left can support this.

02:36:01.000 One quick thing.

02:36:02.000 Let's say that everything you've said is true.

02:36:04.000 What do you think is the plan then?

02:36:05.000 What is the goal?

02:36:06.000 What is the drive?

02:36:06.000 Like why push?

02:36:08.000 Why push?

02:36:09.000 See how he turns?

02:36:11.000 That's all he could do.

02:36:13.000 That's all he could do is retreat, mirror, 0.91

02:36:16.000 If your position is getting absolutely butt-raped, then you turn it around and say, Oh, okay.

02:36:22.000 Well, what's your plan then? 0.70

02:36:24.000 So I can now, I can critique your plan. 0.96

02:36:28.000 Crazy.

02:36:29.000 No comeback to any of that. 0.69

02:36:31.000 He brought it up too.

02:36:33.000 He brought up the carbon tax.

02:36:35.000 He brought up carbon tax.

02:36:36.000 He defended the climate models, which everybody knows IPCC climate models are fake.

02:36:42.000 They've been fake every year.

02:36:45.000 International Panel on Climate Change has been putting those things out.

02:36:48.000 They're always fake.

02:36:50.000 So he just gets beaten at every turn.

02:36:52.000 Beaten, disproven on every single thing.

02:36:56.000 No rebuttal?

02:36:57.000 Oh, okay.

02:36:58.000 Well, you're such a tough guy. 1.00

02:37:00.000 Why do you waste your time coming out here to talk to a bunch of bums? 1.00

02:37:03.000 What's your plan? 1.00

02:37:05.000 Horrible ideas for the planet and the poor. 1.00

02:37:07.000 That's a good question. 0.98

02:37:09.000 That's a good question.

02:37:09.000 Well, because you're positing it, right?

02:37:11.000 So what do you think is the driver goal?

02:37:13.000 Well, I listen to what people say.

02:37:15.000 Here's the most terrible thing they say.

02:37:19.000 There are too many people on the planet.

02:37:22.000 Okay, so who says that?

02:37:24.000 I've heard people say that for 30 years.

02:37:26.000 Perfectly ordinary, compassionate people.

02:37:28.000 Well, there's too many people on the planet.

02:37:31.000 And I think, well, for me, that's like hearing Satan himself take possession of their spine and move their mouth.

02:37:37.000 It's like, okay, who are these excess people that you're so concerned about?

02:37:42.000 And exactly who has to go?

02:37:44.000 And when?

02:37:45.000 And why?

02:37:46.000 And how?

02:37:47.000 And who's going to make that decision?

02:37:49.000 And even if you don't, even if you're not consciously aiming at that?

02:37:53.000 You are the one who uttered the words.

02:37:55.000 You're the ones who muttered the phrase.

02:37:57.000 What makes you think that the thing that possessed you to make you utter that words isn't aiming at exactly what you just declared?

02:38:05.000 And so that's, you know, that's a terrible vision.

02:38:08.000 But when you look at what happens in genocidal societies... Everybody in the chat is saying Africans, Indians, Blacks... 0.83

02:38:18.000 There's too many people. 0.96

02:38:20.000 Well, who are we going to get rid of?

02:38:22.000 And when?

02:38:22.000 And how many?

02:38:23.000 Everybody in the chat, Indians now. 1.00

02:38:26.000 Indians and Africans, immediately now. 1.00

02:38:29.000 No, no, no. 1.00

02:38:30.000 Come on now. 1.00

02:38:31.000 That's not Christian. 1.00

02:38:32.000 I disavow that. 1.00

02:38:33.000 I disavow that.

02:38:38.000 Chat came with the answer, Jordan.

02:38:40.000 Well, who?

02:38:41.000 And when?

02:38:44.000 And which ones?

02:38:44.000 And how many?

02:38:47.000 Do you want us to answer that?

02:38:49.000 Nah, kidding.

02:38:49.000 Kidding!

02:38:50.000 Kidding!

02:38:51.000 Kidding!

02:38:51.000 We disavow.

02:38:51.000 With fair regularity, and usually with a utopian vision at hand, the consequence is the mass destruction of millions of people.

02:38:59.000 So why should I assume that something horrible isn't lurking like that right now?

02:39:04.000 Especially given that we have pushed a few hundred million people back into absolute poverty when we were doing a pretty damn good job of getting rid of that.

02:39:14.000 I just don't understand what's happening in Germany or in the UK.

02:39:18.000 Like, it's insane!

02:39:20.000 Like, look, man, if they would have got rid of the nuclear plants and made energy five times as expensive, and the consequence would have been they weren't burning lignite coal as a backup, and their unit production of energy of pollution per unit of energy had plummeted, you could say, well, look, you know, we hurt a lot of poor people, but at least the air is cleaner.

02:39:41.000 It's like, nope, air's worse, and everyone's poorer.

02:39:45.000 So, like, explain to me how the hell the left can be anti-nuclear.

02:39:50.000 Okay.

02:39:51.000 I don't understand it at all.

02:39:52.000 Gotcha.

02:39:53.000 All right. 1.00

02:39:56.000 What a fucking asshole. 1.00

02:39:57.000 Like, the guy's got nothing to say. 1.00

02:39:59.000 You got nothing.

02:40:00.000 You got nothing.

02:40:01.000 You got no rebuttal.

02:40:03.000 You got no counter-argument.

02:40:04.000 You got no facts.

02:40:06.000 You can't defend it. 0.96

02:40:08.000 Jordan Peterson just opened up a can of whoop-ass and he goes, oh, okay. 0.97

02:40:15.000 All right, okay. 1.00

02:40:16.000 Okay what, you fucking loser? 1.00

02:40:19.000 Something that I brought up earlier that is concerning to me. 1.00

02:40:23.000 I feel like when people get political beliefs, I feel like what happens is, what we think happens, what we'd hope happen, is you have some moral or philosophical underpinning and then from there... Then he wants to talk about how people believe.

02:40:35.000 Then he wants to talk about something that is completely intangible.

02:40:39.000 You see how he's just like completely averse to making a concrete claim?

02:40:45.000 Okay, are you free market or socialist?

02:40:49.000 Well, I'm free market but I believe in redistribution.

02:40:52.000 Well, how's that different than a command economy?

02:40:55.000 Well, I don't know.

02:40:56.000 I'm in favor of mixed economy.

02:40:58.000 But what about carbon tax?

02:40:59.000 What about it?

02:41:00.000 Those don't work.

02:41:01.000 Well, I didn't mean that specifically.

02:41:03.000 Well, what then?

02:41:04.000 Well, maybe I do believe in climate change.

02:41:06.000 Really?

02:41:06.000 How do you support that?

02:41:07.000 Well, no model is perfect yet.

02:41:10.000 They're all completely flawed.

02:41:12.000 It's inarguable that they're not.

02:41:14.000 Whoa.

02:41:15.000 Okay, let's talk about how people have political ideas.

02:41:19.000 It's just like completely averse to saying anything specific, anything concrete, and anything that's hard.

02:41:26.000 He won't make any hard claim.

02:41:27.000 It's always soft claims.

02:41:29.000 He won't make a hard claim like, I support a carbon tax because, or I believe in climate change because,

02:41:36.000 Or I believe that the left doesn't support nuclear because... It's always like, well, people believe things because, like, they're biased.

02:41:46.000 Well, people come to their opinions because they're tribalist.

02:41:51.000 They're tribalistic.

02:41:53.000 Really?

02:41:54.000 So, you know, as opposed to making a concrete claim about a hard reality like something that exists, we're gonna make a very not-specific claim about something soft that doesn't exist, like how you feel people make their opinions.

02:42:10.000 You know, what you feel is the manner in which people come to their political opinions.

02:42:15.000 That's like a soft subject.

02:42:18.000 You combine this with some epistemic understanding of the world, and then you combine these two things, you engage in some form of analysis, and your moral view... Yeah, it'd be nice if that was true.

02:42:27.000 Yeah, you start to apply like prescriptions.

02:42:29.000 So, maybe I'm religious, maybe I analyze society and I see that particular TV shows lead to premarital sex, so my societal prescription is we should ban these TV shows, right? 0.89

02:42:39.000 Ideally, this is how you would imagine this process works. 0.93

02:42:42.000 People aren't rational!

02:42:45.000 People aren't rational!

02:42:53.000 We're 50 minutes in and that's all this guy has said.

02:42:57.000 Did you know that people aren't rational?

02:43:01.000 We think they're rational, but they're not.

02:43:02.000 We think that they look at the facts and evidence and they evaluate the opinion.

02:43:07.000 Actually, they're irrational.

02:43:11.000 And they just follow their peers.

02:43:13.000 They follow peer groups. 1.00

02:43:15.000 Really, retard? 1.00

02:43:17.000 Someone says pushing 35. 0.99

02:43:19.000 Pushing 35 and the most sophisticated, profound, specific claim that he can make is that people follow their peer groups rather than have a rational methodology to create their political views.

02:43:37.000 Wow!

02:43:37.000 Whoa!

02:43:39.000 Whoa, this is getting deep!

02:43:41.000 Are you sure you want to go this deep?

02:43:42.000 I don't know if people can handle this. 1.00

02:43:44.000 People are too dumb to understand this. 0.99

02:43:54.000 Jenga tower that is like floating over a table and every block is like supporting itself and no real part of the tower can be addressed because if you pull out one piece it all falls apart. 1.00

02:44:04.000 Right.

02:44:05.000 So people become like very stuck in all of this combined constellation stuff and none of it is really given like any analysis and you can't really push anybody from one way or another.

02:44:15.000 That's crazy.

02:44:16.000 So that's like what?

02:44:17.000 Like being a liberal but then saying you want Israel to commit a genocide against Palestine?

02:44:22.000 You mean like that?

02:44:24.000 You mean everyone creates an ad hoc position based on circumstance or other irrational factors and it creates a worldview that is completely incoherent?

02:44:37.000 That if you challenge one claim and find an inconsistency that you find that the entire worldview

02:44:45.000 Is incoherent?

02:44:46.000 Sort of like being a liberal but then saying that you support Jews committing a genocide in Palestine and genocide's not even a real thing? 0.54

02:44:55.000 Something like that you mean as a good example?

02:44:56.000 Look at his face. 0.99

02:45:00.000 Look at his ugly face by the way. 1.00

02:45:02.000 Just shave it off at that point. 0.99

02:45:04.000 You gotta just shave it off if it looks like that. 1.00

02:45:08.000 He's just an idiot. 1.00

02:45:11.000 That's good. 1.00

02:45:14.000 That's fine.

02:45:15.000 That's right.

02:45:16.000 That's all he had?

02:45:17.000 That's all he had?

02:45:19.000 Jordan Peterson does like a 20-minute monologue about climate and how carbon tax is not... Because that is the classic... That is the classic example from... Who is it?

02:45:33.000 Gary Becker or Ronald Coase from the Chicago School.

02:45:36.000 I think it's one of them.

02:45:37.000 That's the classic example of using government and contract law.

02:45:44.000 You know, one of the few instances where they're okay with government coming in to ameliorate a negative market externality is the carbon tax, or the carbon tax credit, or whatever.

02:45:55.000 That's a classic example, and Destiny uses that, and Jordan Peterson just rapes on the whole subject, just blows up the whole subject, not just 1.00

02:46:05.000 But the very idea of these kinds of government interventions which will distort the price mechanism and create more poverty because that's what that is.

02:46:16.000 Distorting the price mechanism causes inefficiency and inefficiency means more poverty.

02:46:21.000 That's what he's talking about.

02:46:23.000 So he just defeated that concept and the carbon tax in particular and the climate agenda and the inconsistency, the kind of unexplainable inconsistency at the heart of it.

02:46:34.000 And maybe the nefarious motivation behind that which explains why they support the climate agenda but not nuclear.

02:46:41.000 And Destiny's Rebuttal is like, erm, people are irrational.

02:46:46.000 Erm, people form their opinions based on their peer groups rather than a rational methodology.

02:46:51.000 Cri- This guy's got nothing!

02:46:53.000 You have nothing!

02:46:55.000 You have nothing. 1.00

02:46:56.000 You are an idiot. 1.00

02:46:57.000 You don't know anything. 1.00

02:46:58.000 You don't even know what you believe.

02:47:00.000 You have no rigor in your thinking. 0.96

02:47:03.000 That's insane.

02:47:04.000 That's all he had was like a 30-second, literally 45-second rebuttal about.

02:47:10.000 So we think that people analyze the evidence and then create a worldview. 0.71

02:47:15.000 What people actually do... Crazy.

02:47:20.000 And then back to the notepad. 1.00

02:47:22.000 All these... What are you fucking writing? 1.00

02:47:24.000 What are you fucking writing other than, oh shit, oh shit, I'm losing. 1.00

02:47:28.000 Sheesh. 1.00

02:47:29.000 Now, but that's what happens when he doesn't have his live chat.

02:47:31.000 When he doesn't have his Discord server and his live chat in front of him, this is the level of sophistication.

02:47:39.000 Crazy.

02:47:40.000 Another average. 0.80

02:47:43.000 I'm starving, by the way.

02:47:44.000 I need, like, a Big Mac.

02:47:57.000 That's fine.

02:47:58.000 That's right.

02:47:59.000 Well, you know, there are models now of cognitive processing, belief system processing, that make the technical claim that what a belief system does is constrain entropy.

02:48:14.000 Sure.

02:48:14.000 That's not surprising at all to me.

02:48:16.000 Now, the signal for released entropy, which would be a consequence of, say, violated fundamental beliefs, is a radical increase in anxiety, right?

02:48:26.000 And a decrease in the possibility of positive emotion.

02:48:29.000 And so people will struggle very hard against that, which is exactly the phenomena that you're describing.

02:48:34.000 Yeah.

02:48:34.000 Okay, I agree with what you said, although... So here's my... Yeah, so I'm not sure what is relevant to the issue I was pursuing.

02:48:41.000 I'm getting there.

02:48:43.000 Here's my issue, okay?

02:48:46.000 When I'm trying to evaluate a situation, I like to think that I have some, uh, I've got some insulation from the effects of what liberals think or what conservatives think, because on my platform, I don't necessarily have an allegiance to a particular political ideology.

02:48:58.000 Like, right now I'm, like, center-left to progressive, but I break really hard for progressives on certain issues.

02:49:02.000 I think Kyle Rittenhouse is on the right. 1.00

02:49:04.000 I think basically everything you guys are doing with— This guy's an idiot, dude! 1.00

02:49:08.000 He's an idiot! 1.00

02:49:10.000 He's an idiot! 1.00

02:49:11.000 It's crazy! 1.00

02:49:14.000 Oh my gosh!

02:49:17.000 It's like, you know, Jordan Peterson even outclasses him on the one thing that he can say.

02:49:22.000 Destiny's like, well, I think people are irrational.

02:49:25.000 And Jordan Peterson's like, well, perhaps that irrationality provides a social function, which is to constrain the options of what people can believe or what they can do by creating a negative emotional loop and blah blah blah.

02:49:39.000 And Destiny comes back and says, well, with the political compass stuff.

02:49:43.000 That's like all political nerds can talk about is their political compass.

02:49:47.000 They can't say anything meaningful beyond categorizing different types of political belief and saying, well, I'm a center leftist.

02:49:57.000 Oh, that person?

02:49:58.000 That person's like a progressive socialist.

02:50:00.000 That person?

02:50:01.000 That person's like a far-right populist.

02:50:03.000 That's all these political compass people have the capacity to do is to merely describe or categorize

02:50:11.000 Other people's political opinions and their own.

02:50:13.000 Well, I'm a center leftist, but you know someday some positions are more far right.

02:50:19.000 I think Kyle Rittenhouse was innocent too.

02:50:22.000 Whoa, this is this is a deep thinker.

02:50:24.000 This guy's a genius level intellect.

02:50:26.000 Wait a second.

02:50:27.000 You're telling me that he's mainly a center leftist, but he also thinks Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent?

02:50:33.000 This guy's just like on a level of complexity I can't even handle.

02:50:36.000 Can someone help me please?

02:50:38.000 Can someone help me?

02:50:39.000 I'm experiencing psychosis.

02:50:41.000 I'm being driven insane by the level of complexity and profundity of this man's thinking.

02:50:47.000 This is like, can we get this guy tested?

02:50:51.000 Modern polymath. 1.00

02:50:52.000 Indigenous people is insane, including the complete mass grave hoax. 1.00

02:50:56.000 I think that I'm a big supporter of the Second Amendment. 1.00

02:50:59.000 I have beliefs where I can break from my side, you know, pretty hardcore because I am not, like, allegiant to certain political ideology.

02:51:05.000 One thing that worries me with this constellation of beliefs thing is that sometimes when it comes to evaluating a particular policy or a particular problem, I feel like it's part of the constellation and sometimes it inhibits people from, like, taking a step back and reasonably thinking about the issue. 0.75

02:51:18.000 So when we're talking about climate change, you mentioned the WEF sacrificing tons of people, the UN, global elites, five times energy costs in Germany, genocidal people.

02:51:30.000 I feel like this is part of a whole thing where it's like, okay, well let's take a quick step back and let's just think rationally about this particular issue for one moment.

02:51:38.000 Well, you asked me what the motivation for anti-poor policies might be, so that's why I was trying to flesh that out.

02:51:43.000 Well, I did, but I got all of those things before I even asked that question.

02:51:46.000 Because I think it's totally possible that somebody might say, okay, well, when you put carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, it seems to cause an increase in surface temperatures.

02:51:54.000 This has been happening from about the 1800s, and as we've started to track surface temperatures, whether the thermometer is on top of the Empire State Building or in the middle of a field,

02:52:02.000 It seems like there's an average rise in temperatures, and people all around the world are observing this, in some places more than others.

02:52:07.000 If you live in Seattle, and 20 years ago your apartment building wasn't built with air conditioner units, you feel that now.

02:52:12.000 If you live in a place in London, and you've never had an air conditioner before, now that's not acceptable.

02:52:15.000 I think that people on the ground can see that there are changes, and I think that scientists, when they look in labs, can see changes.

02:52:20.000 It might be that some models aren't precise enough, and it might be that, for reasons we don't even understand... Listen to all the weasel words!

02:52:27.000 It's like... 1.00

02:52:28.000 Okay, well maybe all the data is bullshit, and maybe all the models are bullshit, but it seems like they're alright anyway. 0.99

02:52:36.000 How do you do this? 0.98

02:52:38.000 And it's like Jordan Peterson said, we don't have records going back a very long time.

02:52:43.000 I don't know how far back they go.

02:52:45.000 But we obviously don't have records going back 500 years, let's say.

02:52:50.000 But the Earth is a lot older than 500 years.

02:52:53.000 The data that we do have is extremely flawed up until very recently because they, according to Peterson, they didn't even measure the temperature outside the major cities.

02:53:03.000 And it's only surface temperature, it's not ocean temperature.

02:53:06.000 So there's, in other words, there are severe problems with the reliability of the data.

02:53:12.000 Of most of the set of the data.

02:53:15.000 If the claim is that temperatures have been rising, well, you need to have very solid data globally that is reliable over a long period of time.

02:53:24.000 We don't have any of that. 0.99

02:53:27.000 And Destiny just kind of hand waves, well, maybe the data's shit. 0.95

02:53:32.000 But let's just assume it's alright anyway. 0.91

02:53:35.000 Well, maybe the models, because then they project

02:53:40.000 Based on the imperfect data, they make predictions and they project that out a hundred years.

02:53:46.000 We don't even have a hundred years of good data, but we're gonna make predictions about a hundred years in the future. 0.98

02:53:51.000 Well, maybe the models are bullshit too. 0.96

02:53:53.000 Well, maybe they're not exactly precise. 1.00

02:53:56.000 No, they're bullshit. 0.96

02:53:58.000 But let's just assume the claims of the models and the data are true just because. 0.99

02:54:04.000 Because it's hot in London this summer.

02:54:07.000 Because in London it was hot enough that, you know, they wanted air conditioning for one week during the summer.

02:54:13.000 Seriously?

02:54:14.000 That's crazy.

02:54:19.000 Economic models certainly aren't precise enough.

02:54:21.000 Sure, maybe.

02:54:21.000 Maybe that might be true.

02:54:22.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe, potentially, maybe, kind of, generally, broadly.

02:54:27.000 They can't even use them to predict the price of a single stock for six months.

02:54:32.000 The economic models are not sufficiently accurate to calculate out the consequences of climate change over a century.

02:54:37.000 Not in the least.

02:54:39.000 I like the comparison because economic models can't predict individual stocks, but they do predict the rough rise of the market.

02:54:45.000 If you invest in the S&P 500, you get about... Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.

02:54:52.000 Well, maybe it can't predict stocks, but it can't predict the market, really.

02:54:56.000 Yeah.

02:54:57.000 And that's why nobody ever loses money during a recession, right?

02:55:00.000 Because we can generally predict the health of the economy.

02:55:03.000 That's why nobody ever loses money in the stock market.

02:55:06.000 The Great Recession never happens.

02:55:08.000 Recessions never happen, period.

02:55:10.000 Because we generally know, you know, with a great degree of certainty how good the economy will be doing a year from now.

02:55:17.000 And that's insane.

02:55:18.000 Even with the cataclysmic collapse accounted for, you're going to see about 7% returns on average with inflation over long periods of time.

02:55:25.000 I wouldn't call an average a very sophisticated model, analogous to climate change.

02:55:30.000 That's fine, but that's the difference between climate and weather though, right?

02:55:32.000 It's that climate isn't going to tell you what the temperature is on a given day, but it might tell you the average surface temperature over a period of one year or 10 years.

02:55:39.000 And then that's the difference between climate and weather.

02:55:41.000 Well, that's the hypothetical difference.

02:55:43.000 It is a hypothetical, but again, we're seeing more and more and more data every single year that things are getting hotter and hotter.

02:55:49.000 Let's jump out of our cloud of presuppositions for a minute.

02:55:53.000 Sure.

02:55:53.000 Now, one of the things that— Oh, no, wait!

02:55:55.000 Before we do that, I just want to say, there are some things that we've gotten as a result of investing in green energy that have been good.

02:56:03.000 So, for instance, the power of solar energy has dropped dramatically in the United States, faster than anybody thought possible, such that

02:56:11.000 Solar energy is like competitive or beating fossil fuels in certain areas.

02:56:15.000 As long as you can set the solar panels up, you're literally beating fossil fuels.

02:56:17.000 Yeah, and as long as the sun is shining.

02:56:19.000 Well, I mean, it still is, but we're not in nuclear winter yet.

02:56:22.000 No, no, but it isn't when it's cloudy and it isn't in the winter.

02:56:24.000 That's why I said depending on where you live.

02:56:25.000 There are places, equatorial places, if you're trying to set up a solar panel in Seattle, you know, you might not have as much luck or New York City might not have as much.

02:56:32.000 Or in Germany.

02:56:33.000 Or in Germany, true.

02:56:34.000 Or all of Europe.

02:56:35.000 Or in Canada.

02:56:36.000 There are also other issues that are coming up that I think are obfuscating our ability to evaluate what's being caused by green energy versus not.

02:56:43.000 When we look at energy prices in Germany, I think there's a similar constellation around nuclear energy, for instance. 0.96

02:56:49.000 People don't want nuclear energy because they think of nukes, and they think of nuclear meltdowns, and they think of Chernobyl, and they think of Fukushima, and they think of atomic bombs, and that's it, and that's stupid. 0.97

02:56:58.000 And I agree with you.

02:56:59.000 But nuclear energy is a totally viable alternative to other forms of fossil fuels.

02:57:03.000 Then why does the radical left oppose it? 1.00

02:57:05.000 Oh my gosh, he's an idiot. 1.00

02:57:06.000 Look at his face, too. 1.00

02:57:07.000 Look at the earnestness.

02:57:07.000 That's what kills me.

02:57:08.000 That's what kills me, is the earnestness. 1.00

02:57:09.000 Like, he really is this stupid. 1.00

02:57:09.000 And you can see it in his face. 1.00

02:57:10.000 He's bringing it all.

02:57:11.000 With his full sincerity.

02:57:35.000 The left doesn't like nukes because nukes are scary.

02:57:38.000 They have an irrational fear of nukes like the right does of vaccines.

02:57:41.000 Seriously?

02:57:43.000 You think the world planners, you think the global planners that run major corporations and governments, that run the NSA, that run the CIA, that run the United Nations, that collect all the data, you think they have a comparable level of irrational anxiety about nuclear energy to the Hill people

02:58:05.000 Which, you know, I'm going to sound very negative about Republicans here, but like uneducated Appalachian boomers over the age of 65 that thought that the vaccines were magnetic.

02:58:19.000 Obviously, one, it's two different things.

02:58:23.000 Obviously, number two, that is not the reason.

02:58:29.000 That is, it has no explanatory power.

02:58:33.000 It's the left in Europe that wants nuclear.

02:58:40.000 The idea that they oppose nuclear on a massive level because they have an irrational fear of nuclear bombs just like the right has an irrational fear of vaccines.

02:58:51.000 Really?

02:58:52.000 You think that's why they oppose it?

02:58:58.000 But talk about justifying a presupposition.

02:59:02.000 That's just it.

02:59:03.000 I mean, Destiny will basically accept any, any explanation, any plausible, not even plausible, any like, you know, tenuous explanation for what he believes, he will accept and earnestly pass it off fully believing it.

02:59:24.000 Because there is an inherent contradiction, you know, why, why does the left

02:59:29.000 We're good to go.

02:59:50.000 They're rather they oppose fossil fuels because of pollution, but they also oppose nuclear even though it's the most economical alternative.

02:59:57.000 Why?

02:59:58.000 Destiny says well because they have an irrational fear just like how the right it's another one of these

03:00:05.000 Horseshoe, you know, but the right has an irrational fear of vaccines just like the left has an irrational fear of nukes.

03:00:10.000 Like that doesn't make any sense.

03:00:12.000 It doesn't make any sense because of course the right has a fear of vaccines.

03:00:17.000 A lot of, and don't get me wrong, the vaccine, there's very good reason to be skeptical of the vaccine.

03:00:22.000 A lot of it is superstitious.

03:00:25.000 I didn't get the vaccine.

03:00:26.000 I will never get the vaccine.

03:00:27.000 I think the mRNA has very

03:00:32.000 You know, theoretically could have very bad side effects because it hasn't been clinically tested on human beings.

03:00:38.000 Like, I'm very suspicious of the mRNA business and Big Pharma and all that.

03:00:42.000 Don't get me wrong.

03:00:43.000 But a lot of it does come from a place of genuine ignorance.

03:00:47.000 Yes, there are very many doctors who say that the mRNA vaccine hasn't been tested sufficiently, that people should be taking it.

03:00:55.000 Many doctors have talked about the adverse reactions.

03:00:58.000 They've talked about the increased rate of myocarditis and precarditis from vaccinated versus unvaccinated people, but there are a lot of people that don't know any of that that are just skeptical of it because they're irrational or superstitious.

03:01:11.000 That is not the case with the elite planners and nuclear weapons.

03:01:14.000 There is no comparison between the

03:01:18.000 Uneducated, largely ignorant people that have their own irrational reasons for not wanting to get vaccinated, and the elite planners who, for whatever reason, don't want to pursue nuclear as an alternative to fossil fuels.

03:01:32.000 So those things are not comparable in any way, shape, or form. 0.84

03:01:35.000 It doesn't make any sense, but yet it's one of these, like, both-sides, sounds, plausible arguments.

03:01:42.000 But look at how earnestly, look at the earnestness that he's arguing.

03:01:46.000 Yeah, Klaus Schwab doesn't want nuclear because he's just like irrationally afraid of nuclear bombs, bro.

03:01:52.000 That's crazy. 0.92

03:01:56.000 It's like I've been saying though all along, the guy, this guy is not intelligent.

03:02:00.000 You take away the phone, you take away the live chat, the discord, which is a crutch, and this is what you get.

03:02:08.000 This is a level of rigor and sophistication.

03:02:10.000 We're an hour in.

03:02:13.000 This is the guy's worldview.

03:02:14.000 It's like, people are rational.

03:02:17.000 I'm a little right and a little left.

03:02:19.000 We gotta admit, we're all a little right and a little left. 0.90

03:02:22.000 I'm in favor of a mixed economy. 0.98

03:02:24.000 What do you believe?

03:02:26.000 What do you even know?

03:02:29.000 Don't trust it.

03:02:30.000 Well, the right has a reason to distrust vaccines in the aftermath of the COVID debacle.

03:02:35.000 Because they were imposed by force.

03:02:37.000 And that was a very bad idea.

03:02:38.000 You get to choose if you have a nuclear power plant?

03:02:40.000 That's imposed by force too, no?

03:02:41.000 You don't get to choose where your energy comes from if you live in a country.

03:02:43.000 You turn the light switch and hopefully you don't have a Chernobyl that melts down in your particular town, right?

03:02:48.000 Well, you get to choose it because you can buy it or not. 0.71

03:02:52.000 That's a choice.

03:02:54.000 Nobody had a choice with the vaccines.

03:02:56.000 Nobody had a choice whether or not they lived near Chernobyl or not.

03:02:59.000 Nobody has a choice if there's a nuclear power plant.

03:03:01.000 They could move away.

03:03:02.000 Well, that's a choice.

03:03:02.000 It's a move like 500 miles.

03:03:04.000 That's like telling conservatives when Biden tried to do the OSHA mandate for vaccines, like, well, you just get a different job, right?

03:03:09.000 I don't want to debate about whether or not large nuclear power plants are frightening.

03:03:13.000 They are.

03:03:13.000 And there are technologies now where that's not a problem.

03:03:17.000 And I think that's a counterproductive place for our discussion to go, because I also understand why people are afraid of it.

03:03:24.000 But what I don't understand, for example, is why the Germans shut down their nuclear power plants and the Californians are thinking and have, doing the same thing, when they have to import power from France anyways.

03:03:36.000 Or burn coal, which is a million times worse.

03:03:38.000 Not just coal, lignite.

03:03:41.000 And then with regards to these renewable power sources, they have a number of problems.

03:03:46.000 One is they're not energy dense.

03:03:49.000 They require tremendous infrastructure to produce.

03:03:53.000 They might be renewable

03:03:54.000 at the energy level, but they're not renewable at the raw materials level, so that's a complete bloody lie.

03:04:00.000 They're insanely variable in their power production, and because of that, you have to have a backup system, and the backup system has to be reliable without variability, and that means if you have a renewable grid, you have to have a parallel fossil fuel or coal grid to back it up when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow, which is unfortunately very, very frequently.

03:04:20.000 And so, again, I'm not going to say there's no place for renewable energy like solar and wind, because maybe there are specific niche locales where those are useful, but the logical, what would you say, antidote to the problem of reliability, if we're concerned about carbon, but we're really not, would be to use nuclear.

03:04:41.000 And the Greens haven't been flying their bloody flags for 30 years saying, well, we could use fossil fuels for

03:04:48.000 Fertilizer and feed people, and we could use nuclear power to drive energy costs down in a carbon dioxide-free manner.

03:04:56.000 That seems pretty bloody self-evident to me.

03:04:58.000 And so then it brings up this other mystery that we were talking about earlier.

03:05:02.000 You know, what's the impetus behind all this?

03:05:05.000 Because the cover story is, oh, we care about carbon dioxide, which I don't think they do, especially given the willingness to sacrifice the poor.

03:05:14.000 It makes no sense to me.

03:05:16.000 And I think it's relevant to the issue you brought up, which is that people have these constellations of ideas, and there's a driving force in the midst of them, so to speak.

03:05:25.000 They're not necessarily aware of what that driving force is.

03:05:29.000 Isn't it more likely that people are either misinformed or misguided than people are legitimately trying to depopulate the planet? 0.86

03:05:37.000 Look, misinformed and ignorant, that's plenty relevant and worth considering. 0.99

03:05:41.000 And stupidity is always a better explanation than malevolence. 1.00

03:05:45.000 But malevolence is also an explanation. 0.99

03:05:47.000 And no, I don't think it's a better explanation because... Why would we waste so much money sending food aid, having Bush do programs through Africa for AIDS, having other billionaires like Bill Gates invest so much money in anti-malarial stuff?

03:06:01.000 Why would all the global elites be so invested in helping and killing the people here at the same time?

03:06:06.000 Well, some of it's confusion.

03:06:08.000 Okay.

03:06:08.000 You know, and some of it's the fact, you know, many things can be happening simultaneously with a fair bit of internal paradox because people just don't know which way is up often.

03:06:18.000 But the problem with the argument, okay, so you tell me what you think about this. 0.72

03:06:23.000 So, you know, Hitler's cover story was that he wanted to make the glorious Third Reich and elevate the Germans to the highest possible status for the longest possible period of time. 0.69

03:06:34.000 Okay, but that wasn't the outcome. 0.66

03:06:36.000 The outcome was that Hitler shot himself through the head 0.68

03:06:39.000 After he married his wife, who died from poison the same day, in a bunker underneath Berlin, while Europe was in flames, while he was insisting that the Germans deserved exactly what they got because they weren't the noble people he thought they were.

03:06:53.000 And then you might say, well, Hitler's plans collapsed in flames, and wasn't that a catastrophe?

03:06:58.000 Or you could say, that was exactly what he was aiming for from the beginning, because he was brutally resentful and miserable. 0.77

03:07:04.000 Right from the time he was, you know, a rejected artist at the age of 16.

03:07:09.000 Now we get into the authoritarian personality nonsense.

03:07:12.000 See, this is where it falls apart.

03:07:14.000 I mean...

03:07:16.000 I don't agree about the depopulation stuff.

03:07:18.000 I've talked with Alex Jones about that.

03:07:20.000 I don't find that to be extremely convincing because, and to the point, Destiny's actually right. 0.96

03:07:26.000 Why would the population be exploding in Africa if this were the case? 1.00

03:07:30.000 I think it's possible there's a depopulation agenda because that's in the Talmud. 0.98

03:07:34.000 They say that they want to reduce the birthrate of the goyim. 1.00

03:07:40.000 So I'm open to that possibility. 1.00

03:07:42.000 I don't think it's extremely convincing, especially because they need the population to always be rising. 1.00

03:07:49.000 That's why they bring in immigrants. 1.00

03:07:51.000 You know, why would they want the population in America to always be going up? 1.00

03:07:54.000 Why would they want it to continue going up elsewhere in the world?

03:07:59.000 So, you know, Peterson maybe not necessarily being correct about that doesn't mean that Destiny's not a rigorous thinker.

03:08:05.000 That's the thing. 0.99

03:08:06.000 I mean, Destiny's stupid, Peterson's wrong. 0.99

03:08:09.000 There's a difference. 1.00

03:08:10.000 Destiny's just, he doesn't even know where he is.

03:08:13.000 I don't think Peterson's, when he says this stuff about, oh, Hitler wanted to destroy Germany because he's resentful, because he was rejected from art school, 0.86

03:08:24.000 This is just like Jewish authoritarian personality nonsense. 0.74

03:08:43.000 And so there's no reason at all to assume that we're not in exactly the same situation right now. 1.00

03:08:47.000 I think there's a great reason to assume.

03:08:49.000 I think that Hitler's motives and everything that he was trying to do wasn't a secret.

03:08:52.000 Like, I don't think that anybody had to guess that he was incredibly anti-Semitic, that his Aryan supremacy was going to lead to the destruction and the murder of, like, so many different people in concentration camps.

03:09:00.000 Like, none of this was a secret.

03:09:01.000 It's not like he was hiding it.

03:09:03.000 I mean, like, he tried to maybe hide the death penalty.

03:09:06.000 Why not? 0.73

03:09:26.000 People in Germany thought Hitler was perfectly motivated by the highest of benevolent views. 0.77

03:09:31.000 If I were to take this standard of evidence and apply this lens of analysis, couldn't I say the exact same thing about the conservative constellation of belief? 0.66

03:09:37.000 They don't want to intervene anywhere in the world because they don't care about the problems there. 0.83

03:09:40.000 They're anti-immigration because they hate brown people. 0.98

03:09:42.000 Trump wanted to ban Muslims from coming to the United States because he's xenophobic. 0.98

03:09:46.000 Conservatives don't want to have taxes to help the poor because they want homeless people to starve and die in the winter. 0.99

03:09:50.000 Some of that's true. 0.99

03:09:53.000 And yes, you can adopt that criticism.

03:09:55.000 I think the difference, with regards especially to the libertarian side of the conservative enterprise, but also to some degree to the conservative enterprise, is they're not building a central gigantic organization to put forward this particular utopian claim.

03:10:10.000 And so even if the conservatives are as morally addled as the leftists, and to some degree that might be true, they're not organized with the same gigantism in mind.

03:10:19.000 And so they're not as dangerous at the moment.

03:10:21.000 Now they could well be, and they have been in the past, but at the moment they're not.

03:10:25.000 And so of course you can be skeptical about people's motivations when they're brandishing the moral flag.

03:10:32.000 Why would we say that they're not as concerned about the gigantism?

03:10:35.000 I feel like everybody is when it's a particular thing that they care about.

03:10:38.000 You mean whether they would be inclined in that direction?

03:10:42.000 For sure.

03:10:42.000 Conservatives wield the power of the government whenever they feel they need to, just as liberals do.

03:10:46.000 Conservatives were very happy to see, for instance, abortion was brought back as a state regulated thing.

03:10:51.000 Look, that's a good objection.

03:10:54.000 You're correct in your assumption that once people identify a core area of concern, they're going to be motivated to seek power to implement that concern.

03:11:05.000 I think cancel culture is a good idea, too.

03:11:06.000 I think conservatives, prior to the 2000s, if they could censor everything related to either LGBT stuff or weird musical stuff, or so that they didn't want their kids to watch, conservatives would do it.

03:11:16.000 But now that you see that, like, liberals and progressives are kind of wielding that corporate hammer

03:11:20.000 Now conservatives are very much, well, hold on, we need freedom of speech, we need to platform everybody.

03:11:23.000 And now progressives are like, well, hold on, maybe we shouldn't platform people.

03:11:26.000 I've got no disagreement with those things that you said, and I have no disagreement about your proposition that people will seek power to impose their central doctrine.

03:11:36.000 Okay, so then you might say, so we can have a very serious conversation about that, what do we have that ameliorates that tendency?

03:11:45.000 In the United States, we've got hopefully a form of decentralized government.

03:11:49.000 I can't speak to Canada as much.

03:11:50.000 Yes, well, yes, that's true.

03:11:52.000 So that's one of the institutional protections against that, because what that does is put various forms of power striving in conflict with one another, right?

03:12:01.000 And so that's a very intelligent solution.

03:12:03.000 But then there are psychological and philosophical solutions as well.

03:12:08.000 And one of them might be that you abjure the use of power, right, as a principle.

03:12:14.000 And this is one of the things that was done very badly during the COVID era, let's say, because the rule should be something like, you don't get to impose your solution on people using compulsion and force.

03:12:28.000 There's a doctrine there, which is any policy that requires compulsion and force is to be looked upon with extreme skepticism.

03:12:35.000 Now, it's tricky, because now and then you have to deal with psychopaths, and they tend not to respond to anything but force.

03:12:42.000 And so there's an exception there that always has to be made, and it's a very tricky exception.

03:12:46.000 But, look, let me tell you a story, and you tell me what you think about this.

03:12:52.000 Because I think it's very relevant to the concern that you just expressed.

03:12:57.000 And I don't believe that the Conservatives are necessarily any less tempted by the

03:13:05.000 By the calling of power than the leftists.

03:13:07.000 That's going to vary from situation to situation.

03:13:11.000 Though I would say probably overall in the 20th century, the leftists have the worst record in terms of sheer numbers of people killed.

03:13:17.000 I mean, it depends on how we're quantifying that.

03:13:20.000 Not really.

03:13:21.000 Okay, we'll just quantify Mao.

03:13:23.000 How's that?

03:13:24.000 Direct death of 100 million people.

03:13:27.000 So, you know, that's a pretty stark fact.

03:13:29.000 And if we're going to argue about that, well, then we're really not going to get anywhere. 0.97

03:13:33.000 I'm not disagreeing that the Holodomor happened as well. 0.94

03:13:36.000 The Soviet Union and China were horrible. 0.97

03:13:39.000 20 to 50 million people in the Soviet Union. 0.68

03:13:42.000 I'm just saying, for World War II, it depends on how much you attribute the war does to Nazi Germany, etc. 0.98

03:13:47.000 Shut up. 0.97

03:13:48.000 Okay, I'm over it. 1.00

03:13:50.000 I'm over it.

03:13:51.000 I've seen enough.

03:13:52.000 This is just completely one-sided.

03:13:54.000 Like, this is not even interesting.

03:13:55.000 It's just Jordan Peterson going off on the usual.

03:13:58.000 Free market, you know, anti-collectivism, anti-utopian socialism thing, and then Destiny's just like pretending to take notes, laughing when he talks, looks down.

03:14:11.000 Ugh.

03:14:15.000 Tedious.

03:14:16.000 Very tedious.

03:14:20.000 What are the comments saying?

03:14:21.000 I'm getting hungry, so I'm probably gonna wind it down soon.

03:14:32.000 Yeah dude, that was painful.

03:14:37.000 Alright, we'll watch a little bit more of this.

03:14:42.000 Oh my god!

03:14:43.000 You got me four?

03:14:45.000 Whoa! 0.71

03:14:46.000 Look at this guy, dude!

03:14:48.000 Wait, hold on.

03:14:48.000 Oh, it doesn't matter.

03:14:50.000 This is more important.

03:14:52.000 Come here.

03:14:52.000 There we go.

03:14:55.000 Oh my gosh.

03:14:56.000 I love this little guy.

03:14:57.000 Oh my god.

03:14:58.000 We're solving wars.

03:15:03.000 Stephen is trying to escape his responsibilities for defending this country against militant extremists.

03:15:08.000 So we're gonna go find him, find out what he's doing.

03:15:11.000 He might be soying, he's in his goon cave right now. 0.95

03:15:13.000 We're gonna get this little... We're gonna get this little Stephen to do his f***ing job. 0.97

03:15:17.000 So we'll f***ing do what we say. 0.97

03:15:25.000 You're disrespecting your country. 0.97

03:15:26.000 You're letting them down.

03:15:27.000 What are you doing? 0.99

03:15:28.000 You're on your f***ing phone? 0.99

03:15:30.000 We're doing a tactical military operation right now. 0.99

03:15:33.000 You have no respect for your commanding officer, which is me.

03:15:36.000 I love making out with my inferior officers.

03:15:44.000 You disrespect this country.

03:15:46.000 You disrespect the United States military. 1.00

03:15:51.000 Let's see what we do to libtards. 1.00

03:15:51.000 Let's see what we do to libtards in Louisiana! 1.00

03:15:54.000 You ready to do it? 1.00

03:15:55.000 Okay.

03:15:55.000 Ready?

03:15:56.000 Do it.

03:15:57.000 Ow! 1.00

03:15:58.000 Holy shit, that hurt! 1.00

03:15:59.000 You're nuts. 1.00

03:16:07.000 I said we got that libtard taken care of. 1.00

03:16:10.000 He'll be way more respectful of his commanding officer now. 1.00

03:16:13.000 He needs to get his T-levels checked.

03:16:15.000 In a serious way.

03:16:16.000 Come with me. 1.00

03:16:17.000 Oh my god, get some footage of this silly ass jacket. 1.00

03:16:19.000 It's my shooting jacket. 1.00

03:16:24.000 He's got no tricks.

03:16:42.000 Technically though like that's probably pretty good right because you're not like shooting like it's not like you're shooting everything like it's all like about in that area so if you fix the trigger pull it'd probably look about like minor grazes.

03:16:50.000 You're being nice to me.

03:16:51.000 No shut up. 0.99

03:16:52.000 Is that the loser? 0.99

03:16:54.000 It says it's got nine rounds.

03:16:56.000 Yeah.

03:16:56.000 But then when I put in the next one it says 11 rounds.

03:16:59.000 You look for the shiny.

03:17:00.000 Yeah thanks I know.

03:17:02.000 Look how many rounds are in this?

03:17:03.000 Six.

03:17:04.000 Wait what?

03:17:05.000 That's the follower.

03:17:06.000 That's the baseplate.

03:17:07.000 Oh yeah, duh.

03:17:08.000 Yeah, I was making sure you knew about that.

03:17:09.000 Because a lot of people don't know about the baseplates and the glock mags, you know?

03:17:17.000 Hey now, you're a rockstar.

03:17:19.000 Come on, go play.

03:17:21.000 And all that glitter's on the range.

03:17:25.000 We're gonna wear these when we're shooting tomorrow.

03:17:27.000 What are they?

03:17:27.000 I don't know.

03:17:30.000 Okay, what else?

03:17:31.000 There has to be- No, no, can we find like the real coat section? 1.00

03:17:34.000 You f***ing retard. 1.00

03:17:35.000 You're in the f***ing flannel, like, poser section. 1.00

03:17:37.000 Okay. 0.99

03:17:38.000 God, maybe if you cut your hair you wouldn't have to f***ing brush it in your eyes all the f***ing time. 0.67

03:17:41.000 I like to have it so that you can- Did you dye it today? 0.96

03:17:43.000 Oh my god.

03:17:43.000 I did not f***ing dye it.

03:17:44.000 Look at how different the color is from your eyebrows, bro. 0.86

03:17:47.000 Your eyebrow.

03:17:48.000 Why are your pupils so small?

03:17:49.000 Wait, can you look at how small his pupils are?

03:17:51.000 No, that's normal.

03:17:52.000 You're just high all the time so you can't tell what they look like anymore.

03:17:54.000 That's not normal.

03:17:55.000 That's not normal.

03:17:55.000 Yes, it is.

03:17:56.000 They're f***ing, are you on Fentyl? 0.97

03:17:58.000 Why did that make my people small? 0.99

03:17:59.000 I'm so f***ing broad my sh**. 0.98

03:18:01.000 Right here, I found a medium. 0.99

03:18:04.000 Bro! 0.99

03:18:05.000 Holy sh**. 0.99

03:18:05.000 Are you getting that for your girlfriend? 0.99

03:18:09.000 You're in the men's section.

03:18:09.000 You're not allowed to shop here.

03:18:10.000 Oh my god. 1.00

03:18:13.000 She's white. 1.00

03:18:13.000 Make fun of her for that. 1.00

03:18:14.000 That's cool.

03:18:15.000 Make fun of her?

03:18:15.000 That's good.

03:18:16.000 I bet her ancestors owned slaves. 1.00

03:18:17.000 You see how blue those eyes are?

03:18:18.000 I bet she owns slaves now. 1.00

03:18:20.000 True.

03:18:21.000 She's got blue eyes. 0.79

03:18:22.000 What?

03:18:22.000 Barely.

03:18:23.000 Barely?

03:18:24.000 Barely.

03:18:25.000 Barely?

03:18:25.000 How am I- Okay.

03:18:27.000 Oh my god. 1.00

03:18:29.000 You can't open the fucking trunk. 1.00

03:18:38.000 Oh no! 1.00

03:18:38.000 Can you know we're late? 1.00

03:18:40.000 I can afford to rent this ship.

03:18:41.000 Sun is shining! 0.99

03:18:42.000 What the fuck is this? 1.00

03:18:44.000 What the fuck is this? 1.00

03:18:45.000 What the fuck are we watching? 1.00

03:18:48.000 Alright, I try to give another chance. 0.99

03:18:50.000 Why don't we just watch The Breakfast Club? 0.99

03:18:52.000 Wake that ass up! 1.00

03:18:57.000 In the morning! 0.99

03:18:57.000 The Breakfast Club! 0.99

03:19:00.000 Morning, everybody.

03:19:01.000 It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy.

03:19:04.000 We are The Breakfast Club.

03:19:05.000 We got a special guest in the building.

03:19:06.000 Oh, they're not going to like this one.

03:19:07.000 We have Candace Owens. 1.00

03:19:08.000 Candace Owens.

03:19:09.000 Welcome.

03:19:10.000 Hello.

03:19:11.000 How you feeling?

03:19:12.000 I feel great.

03:19:12.000 A little tired.

03:19:13.000 Had a wedding this weekend, but I always feel great.

03:19:15.000 Back to New York.

03:19:15.000 You're originally from here, right?

03:19:17.000 Yeah, I was born in New York, raised in Stanford, and then lived in New York after university for like seven years.

03:19:22.000 So I worked just two blocks away from here.

03:19:24.000 What part of New York?

03:19:25.000 Did I live in or?

03:19:26.000 Was born.

03:19:27.000 Raised.

03:19:27.000 I was born in White Plains.

03:19:28.000 Oh, White Plains.

03:19:29.000 Okay.

03:19:29.000 By the Bronx.

03:19:29.000 Okay.

03:19:31.000 What is the Candace Owens origin story?

03:19:33.000 I mean, I know a little bit of it because, you know, me and you actually used to have a lot of conversations back in the day before she changed her number.

03:19:40.000 He was mad about that.

03:19:41.000 I mean, I did change mine, but you know.

03:19:42.000 Girl, he was mad about that.

03:19:44.000 He was like, I've been hittin' up, hittin' that machine, goin' in the chain.

03:19:47.000 Cause it kept going blue.

03:19:48.000 I was like, is she just ignoring me?

03:19:49.000 No, I wouldn't have ignored you.

03:19:50.000 I would have answered.

03:19:51.000 I changed my number.

03:19:52.000 I try to do it every couple of years.

03:19:53.000 Okay.

03:19:54.000 For what?

03:19:54.000 Just because?

03:19:55.000 Because then you collect all these people that are texting you and you're like, actually, I don't want to talk to this person anymore.

03:19:59.000 I don't want to tell them.

03:20:00.000 I don't want to talk to them anymore.

03:20:01.000 So I just changed my number.

03:20:02.000 And I'm sure the more you grow, a lot of your family members hit you up for money and stuff like that.

03:20:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:20:07.000 I mean, it's usually not family members.

03:20:08.000 It's just random people from your past that haven't spoken to you in forever, but still have your number and will text you and ask for a favor.

03:20:14.000 Like Sheldon, maybe?

03:20:15.000 No.

03:20:17.000 It wasn't him.

03:20:17.000 It wasn't about him.

03:20:18.000 I actually should have messaged you my new number.

03:20:20.000 Where did all of this begin for Candace Owens?

03:20:23.000 You know, I feel like I have just a very regular story.

03:20:25.000 Like I said, I was born in New York, raised in Stanford.

03:20:28.000 There was nothing particularly that stood out in my childhood that made me think that I was going to go into politics.

03:20:33.000 I feel like I landed into politics kind of accidentally.

03:20:36.000 And I say accidentally because I thought I was a liberal.

03:20:41.000 How much exposition is there going to be in this?

03:20:44.000 Is there a highlight reel?

03:20:46.000 When are we going to get the good stuff?

03:21:04.000 But I thought it was weird when all of a sudden the people that liked Trump, you know, everyone thought he was like this iconic symbol of business, he was in rap songs, Trump was a status, flipped on him in one second.

03:21:11.000 I didn't buy the narrative that he was in the media for three, four decades and suddenly he wanted me to believe overnight that he was like Adolf Hitler and a racist.

03:21:17.000 So I just didn't trust the media's narrative about him and so I decided to actually listen to what he said.

03:21:21.000 I still didn't vote for him in 2016, but I wanted to just listen to what he actually said.

03:21:24.000 And then when I saw what he was saying versus how it was being reported, I just found it to be extremely dishonest.

03:21:27.000 So I started researching more, learning more.

03:21:29.000 Yeah, I don't know.

03:21:30.000 I mean, I see some of these videos where they're jumping around and...

03:21:59.000 Screaming and I'm like, yeah, they're definitely starting for some of them are definitely starting from a dumb place So can is smart though, and you know irony now is I get calls all the time I got what was coming.

03:22:11.000 But yeah, and then I realized that actually I've always been a conservative I just didn't know it and economically speaking, of course, the conservative arguments make the most sense. 0.85

03:22:16.000 Does that bother you that people call you Uncle Tom?

03:22:18.000 No, not at all.

03:22:18.000 First off because if they read the book Uncle Tom was the hero.

03:22:21.000 But also because I get it, you know?

03:22:22.000 How can I fault people for something that I would have engaged in for the majority of my life?

03:22:24.000 I thought the same thing about black conservatives. 0.93

03:22:26.000 I thought it was this betrayal, but I never actually understood it. 0.94

03:22:28.000 It was just an emotional response. 0.87

03:22:29.000 And I think that kind of is, if you come out of the public school system, I can't imagine how you could be a black conservative when just the way that they even tell us our own history is just not true, you know? 1.00

03:22:37.000 Do you think that that's true with most people, though? 0.81

03:22:39.000 Like, you know, when you think of a Trump or just anybody, you're fine with them, but then you learn, like, their politics.

03:22:44.000 You learn what they believe spiritually, and then you're like, oh, you're turned off from it.

03:22:47.000 Yeah, and I don't even think it's necessarily the politics.

03:22:49.000 I really do think the media plays the biggest part in it because Trump, as far as I know, Trump's been, maybe he used to be a Democrat, but he's been a Republican and a conservative for a long time.

03:22:55.000 I mean, we know he had to have been a conservative in terms of economics.

03:22:57.000 You know, he's wealthy, so you'd be hard pressed to find someone that's wealthy and, you know, advocating for Marxist beliefs.

03:23:01.000 But yeah, I just feel like it's more about the media wants power.

03:23:04.000 The media has a vested interest in things politically, and they like to make us think that we're having this open conversation and we're learning the truth about people.

03:23:09.000 But these are just hatchet, smear jobs, libeling people, and I think diluting a ton of people to turn against their own best interests.

03:23:14.000 So are you more anti-media as opposed to being pro-Trump?

03:23:17.000 Well, no, once I actually heard what he had to say, I was like, that's a pretty solid pitch.

03:23:20.000 I mean, it was his Demondale, Michigan speech, particularly.

03:23:22.000 He got up there and he just started listing all of the statistics in black America in terms of poverty.

03:23:25.000 I mean, these were just real statistics that he was talking about.

03:23:26.000 And his pitch was basically like, you've been giving your vote to Democrats for 60 years.

03:23:29.000 Why don't you just try something different?

03:23:30.000 You know?

03:23:30.000 I think that's a pretty good elevator pitch.

03:23:31.000 Like, hey, you've been doing the same thing for a long time.

03:23:33.000 I'm not saying I'm amazing, but why don't we try something different and see if it gets better for you?

03:23:36.000 And then suddenly I like flipped over to CNN and Don Lemon's like crying.

03:23:39.000 I think maybe being, but it was just, they were so dramatic and they were lying about what he said.

03:23:42.000 They're like, he looked you in the face and told you you were poor.

03:23:44.000 Like, I'm like, that's not what he

03:23:46.000 So I just got interested.

03:23:47.000 I'm a very curious, interested person.

03:23:48.000 If I get interested in something, I will just take it all away, read books, and I'm like, why are they doing this?

03:23:51.000 Like, why are all the media companies I believed my whole life just lying about it? 0.93

03:23:54.000 Just say what he actually said and let black Americans decide for themselves.

03:23:56.000 If that's a good enough pitch, they may have said no, I thought it was interesting, but the lying is something that I think is outrageous. 0.97

03:24:01.000 It's gotten out of control.

03:24:02.000 I think it's worse now.

03:24:03.000 I think it's worse now because not only do you have people who will just create the headlines based off what they feel you said as opposed to what you said, you have people that will just straight up manipulate your audio, manipulate your video, just to push a narrative.

03:24:12.000 One of the wildest things, craziest things that people say about me all the time, it drives me crazy because it's literally made up.

03:24:16.000 They're like, Candace said racism doesn't exist.

03:24:17.000 If you go find that headline of Candace says racism doesn't exist, they didn't put it in quotation marks because I never said it.

03:24:23.000 They were like, Candace said racism doesn't exist because she's quote-unquote never been a slave.

03:24:26.000 The words never been a slave came out of my mouth, but I never said racism doesn't exist.

03:24:28.000 And it was in the context of an entire speech.

03:24:30.000 The media knew that black people were not going to go watch the speech or try to find the original speech.

03:24:33.000 They were just going to read the headline and react and be like, Oh my God, Candace Owens said racism doesn't exist. 1.00

03:24:35.000 Like, how could she say this? 1.00

03:24:36.000 She's a hypocrite. 1.00

03:24:37.000 She's a liar. 1.00

03:24:37.000 This happened to her in her childhood. 1.00

03:24:38.000 You sued your high school for racism.

03:24:40.000 Well, that's actually not the, that's not what happened.

03:24:42.000 I didn't, I didn't sue my high school for racism.

03:24:43.000 I'll be honest, I got a boyfriend and I just stopped hanging out with my friends. 1.00

03:24:46.000 Very typical high school stupid stuff. 1.00

03:25:05.000 And this gay guy that I was friends with was, like, outraged by it. 1.00

03:25:07.000 And one night, he was out drinking with kids that were way younger than him that I had never met, and they left me horrific voicemails.

03:25:11.000 I mean, like, bringing in, like, Rosa Parks.

03:25:12.000 Tons of threats.

03:25:13.000 He did what?

03:25:14.000 They were just, like, it was, yeah, like, it was, it was, there was no way to slice it, but it was, they were extremely racist.

03:25:18.000 And it was terrifying, too, because I didn't know who the phone calls were coming from.

03:25:21.000 Long story short, one of the kids in the car happened to be the governor of Connecticut's son, so it became this sort of overnight political story.

03:25:24.000 And while it was going on, and there were, like, news cameras in front of the school, I left school and just homeschooled for, um, I think it was about six, eight weeks.

03:25:30.000 Okay, can we skip some of the stuff?

03:25:50.000 Now you said something earlier, you said that you wanted to listen to what Trump had to say.

03:25:53.000 You said in 2016 you still didn't vote for him.

03:25:54.000 So looking at the country now, right?

03:25:55.000 Of course there's Trump, there's Biden.

03:25:56.000 Who do you think is better for our community?

03:25:58.000 And why?

03:25:58.000 Well, first and foremost, just for everybody, you should have a president that's, you know, not mentally deteriorating like Biden is.

03:26:03.000 I mean, he's in full mental deterioration.

03:26:04.000 It's crazy to pretend anything else that's happening right now.

03:26:06.000 It's scary, first and foremost, because we have real enemies out there.

03:26:09.000 There was this fracture in the conservative movement because people realized that when he was referring to the swamp, what he meant was it didn't actually matter if you were on the left or the right.

03:26:15.000 They were all working together in D.C.

03:26:16.000 and selling out all of America.

03:26:16.000 I mean, there is no reason why you go to D.C.

03:26:19.000 and become a multimillionaire.

03:26:19.000 You're supposed to be there to serve the American people.

03:26:21.000 You're there taking our tax dollars.

03:26:22.000 So what was happening was these lobbying interests, like, you know, Big Pharma goes down and they lobby and they'll offer money to a candidate to go push a drug, like the COVID vaccine.

03:26:27.000 Or they'll lobby for war.

03:26:28.000 It's like, you know, biggest lobby, of course, military-industrial complex.

03:26:30.000 So we're all suffering.

03:26:31.000 You're going to work because these lobbyists are getting their incentives done by buying out these politicians.

03:26:35.000 And so Trump kind of hit the scene as somebody who wasn't bought and paid for because he didn't need their money.

03:26:38.000 He wasn't like a random congressman going to D.C.

03:26:39.000 with no money.

03:26:40.000 And he just started talking about the swamp.

03:26:41.000 Like, it's not even Republican or Democrat.

03:26:42.000 And I want people to wake up to that because I'm not here, like, ride or die for Republicans.

03:26:45.000 They all sell us out.

03:26:46.000 Like, the stuff that they did during COVID is criminal.

03:26:48.000 It's just, it's criminal.

03:26:49.000 Okay.

03:27:14.000 This paradox of black people who will make an argument that, you know, the system is racist, and then also make an argument like this, which is essentially making an argument for the Supreme Court to revisit Virginia vs. Love and basically say that black Americans and white Americans shouldn't be on chemistry, read a book on building houses, and he just comprehends the concepts. 0.88

03:27:28.000 Trying to tell me this is black culture. 0.67

03:27:28.000 Like, I grew up in my grandfather's house listening to The Temptations. 0.67

03:27:30.000 Stop trying to tell me this is black culture. 0.93

03:27:31.000 It's not. 1.00

03:27:31.000 This is the first time people are going to pay attention to it because it hit the president, and they were right, obviously. 1.00

03:27:35.000 I was only watching this court case because it had to do with Trump, and it was crazy.

03:27:38.000 Like, somebody that corrupt should never be in a position to...

03:27:40.000 That's true. 0.98

03:27:56.000 Well, I guess I'm not saying you're wrong, but you know, there are plenty of people that go, why are you not with a black man?

03:28:00.000 I'm of a black man.

03:28:01.000 My granddaddy, my dad, I'm of a black man.

03:28:03.000 It's not going to, like, why do you feel impacted by it?

03:28:04.000 Because I am seeing that intentional attack on black men and they're trying to condition black men to aspire to that.

03:28:08.000 When you put that on a red carpet and like, oh, look, fame and men wear dresses. 1.00

03:28:11.000 What is that? 1.00

03:28:12.000 Stop selling that to the black community. 1.00

03:28:13.000 I don't like that at all. 1.00

03:28:14.000 I love the way that you and Ben Shapiro disagree, but then I guess they'll have a business relationship.

03:28:19.000 Here we go, here we go.

03:28:20.000 I saw him recently tell you, maybe a few months ago, he told you to quit over your Israel coverage, your Palestine-Israel coverage.

03:28:27.000 What was that about?

03:28:29.000 Well, he told me, well, the tweet that he responded to was actually just some biblical passages.

03:28:35.000 And he thought that it was me saying that I had to choose money over, I don't know how we interpret it, but it was definitely not, I just meant it as like, you know, peace, calling for peace.

03:28:46.000 Because, you know, there was a video circulating of him calling me a disgrace and a faux professional or whatever it was.

03:28:52.000 I decided to choose peace.

03:28:53.000 And then when I chose peace, he responded to the peace with, not peace.

03:28:57.000 So why wouldn't you just,

03:29:00.000 Well, as I explained on Tucker Carlson's show, Ben doesn't have the power to fire me.

03:29:05.000 And it's not even saying that we disagree on Israel and Palestine.

03:29:09.000 I just think that he's obviously, his wife is Israeli.

03:29:14.000 He spends a lot of time in Israel throughout the year.

03:29:16.000 I think when you have an emotional attachment to some place that sometimes your reaction to anything is going to be more extreme to it.

03:29:26.000 I have some relatives that are from St.

03:29:27.000 Thomas.

03:29:27.000 If what was happening in that region was happening in St.

03:29:31.000 Thomas, I would probably be the most fired up out of everybody at The Daily Wire.

03:29:34.000 And yeah, he definitely went through, I think, an emotional time at the end of last year, you know, dealing with everything.

03:29:40.000 I think I was pretty even keel. 1.00

03:29:42.000 I don't want to see innocent Palestinians killed.

03:29:45.000 I don't want to see innocent Israelis killed.

03:29:48.000 I never want to see children killed.

03:29:50.000 I don't believe children should have to grow up in a war zone based on the actions of a few.

03:29:56.000 And that, I guess, last year sounded crazy.

03:29:59.000 It sounded crazy because always the demand in all these situations is to make people pick a side.

03:30:05.000 And then if you don't pick their side, then you get smeared and you get libeled, right? 0.60

03:30:08.000 So if you don't say, I want every Palestinian murdered, then suddenly you're pro-Hamas. 0.72

03:30:13.000 If you don't say like, I want every Israeli person eradicated, you know, then suddenly you're pro-apartheid or whatever the arguments are. 0.89

03:30:19.000 And I think both of that is extreme.

03:30:22.000 You said no government anywhere has a right to commit a genocide ever.

03:30:25.000 There is no justification for genocide.

03:30:28.000 Yeah.

03:30:29.000 That is going to age so well.

03:30:33.000 Genocide is always wrong.

03:30:34.000 It is, guys.

03:30:35.000 It is.

03:30:36.000 It is always wrong.

03:30:37.000 And doesn't matter at any point in human history, any person that is advocating for genocide is always in the wrong.

03:30:44.000 And when I wrote that tweet, I was referring to Brian Mast, who was a congressman.

03:30:48.000 He got up and he literally said in Congress that there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian.

03:30:54.000 And I was like, that is genocidal.

03:30:57.000 As soon as you say an entire group of people are all evil, you are now laying the groundwork to justify a genocide.

03:31:04.000 And that, to me, was wild.

03:31:06.000 So I spoke up against it.

03:31:07.000 Have you been blackballed from videos?

03:31:09.000 No.

03:31:09.000 I just stopped going on Fox.

03:31:11.000 I used to, you know, my schedule's very busy, but I used to go only once a week on the Tucker Carlson Show.

03:31:16.000 And then Tucker left Fox News.

03:31:18.000 So I just didn't go on Fox News.

03:31:20.000 Gotcha.

03:31:21.000 You seem to be excited that Black America is embracing you, as you say.

03:31:27.000 Yeah.

03:31:27.000 Why is that?

03:31:28.000 I'm just glad that they're hearing me for the first time.

03:31:31.000 Forget embracing.

03:31:31.000 I just wanted them to actually hear me.

03:31:33.000 There was just so much, so many things said about me that just were not true.

03:31:37.000 And no matter what, every time an article was written, they would just rehash the things that I never said.

03:31:41.000 I mean, even the Joe Budden interview that was recently dropped and everyone's talking about it.

03:31:44.000 Go read

03:31:45.000 We're good to go.

03:32:07.000 And here's what I think about her.

03:32:08.000 Rather than I heard what somebody else heard, and what they say that I should have heard, and here's what I think about her.

03:32:13.000 Yeah, because most of the hate is, like, domino.

03:32:15.000 Like, you'll see, like, over the years, I've s- Alright.

03:32:18.000 Zero percent. 0.98

03:32:19.000 Let me just tell you, zero percent that you're gonna be the next- But every black kid, because of the way he's hailed as a he- Alright, okay, so that was everybody, the whole stream, was like, watch the Candace Breakfast Club, watch the Candace- Now don't get me wrong. 0.85

03:32:34.000 Like Candace, love her, love what she's been saying lately, but this is just an interview about her and the black people, which is fine, but I'm not black, so I don't really care that much about, you know, all that she has to say about the black community, you know? 0.71

03:32:50.000 The whole stream, the live chat is, watch the Candace Breakfast Club, watch the Candace Bre- and I knew it was gonna be this, because that's what it said in the title.

03:32:58.000 In the title it said, Candace Owens on Black America.

03:33:03.000 And it was an hour of talking about Uncle Tom this and LeBron that and some basic Trump stuff.

03:33:13.000 So.

03:33:15.000 Alright.

03:33:16.000 No, we didn't.

03:33:17.000 Yes, you did.

03:33:18.000 Yes, you did.

03:33:20.000 Live chat's refusing.

03:33:23.000 Live chat is now denying it.

03:33:26.000 Alright.

03:33:27.000 I think that's gonna be it for me.

03:33:28.000 I think that's gonna do it for me.

03:33:29.000 I've been live for three and a half hours.

03:33:31.000 I thought I would have been live for longer, but I just can't watch this, dude. 1.00

03:33:34.000 It's just too gay. 1.00

03:33:35.000 It's too weird. 1.00

03:33:36.000 It's giving me Catboy Cammy flashbacks.

03:33:39.000 So, what are we doing with this?

03:33:43.000 I thought we were gonna watch the whole thing, but it's just like a lot of, like, imitation Sam Hyde humor.

03:33:51.000 Weird flirtatiousness.

03:33:59.000 So I just don't really it's all the guns and stuff just why And then just like a huge sit-down interview like a two-hour interview Let's just watch the end

03:34:22.000 You're miserable, you're not gonna do anything.

03:34:37.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.94

03:34:38.000 So, there's like a careful line I have to walk between, like, how much is too self-indulgent.

03:34:43.000 Like, if we started to do, like, 12 months of exclusively OnlyFans girls biting people that are arguing about body count and pedophilia or some crazy shit, and then, like, no political content, that'd probably be bad. 1.00

03:34:53.000 But if I did, like, 12 months of, like, what I just did for Israel-Palestine, where it's just, like, we're researching and reading every single day and that's all we're gonna do, I don't know if that would be as much fun either, so I try to... Get boring for you, you think?

03:35:03.000 Yeah, I try to, like, walk a fine line between both.

03:35:05.000 Is your number one goal in life through everything work?

03:35:09.000 Would you be willing to sacrifice most of your personal relationships right now if I had a button?

03:35:13.000 One button says sacrifice all my personal relationships and friends and one button says my job is gonna like 10x in the next year.

03:35:19.000 Like what would you press?

03:35:21.000 I mean that's a hard one because like so much of my job is like stuff that I enjoy doing and it's integrated so much with like friendships and everything.

03:35:27.000 So, like, I think I've even said this to you probably multiple times at this point, that if I worked at McDonald's, I would work at McDonald's, I would come home, and I would jump on my computer and start, like, fighting on Twitter with people.

03:35:36.000 Like, that's just what I would do.

03:35:37.000 And then I'd play video games.

03:35:38.000 If I 10x work, I'm also getting massive enjoyment out of my personal life, too.

03:35:42.000 So, I guess so, kind of, yes.

03:35:43.000 But also, it's hard to answer the question, because a lot of my work relationships are integrated with my personal ones as well.

03:35:47.000 Yeah, well, the other... 0.97

03:35:48.000 Okay, this just sucks. 0.99

03:35:49.000 Just sucks. 0.99

03:35:50.000 Like, tedious. 1.00

03:35:51.000 Tedious, boring, who fucking cares? 0.99

03:35:54.000 Alright, so that's it. 0.99

03:35:55.000 I'm gonna look at the Super Chats.

03:35:58.000 We'll see if I have any.

03:35:59.000 If I have some, I'll read them.

03:36:01.000 Yeah, we got some tonight.

03:36:04.000 Alright, I'll read these and then I'm gonna get out of here, okay?

03:36:08.000 Ugh, yeesh.

03:36:10.000 Stream was brutal today.

03:36:15.000 Yeah, that was clarified many times throughout the last 50 years.

03:36:17.000 I don't know it by heart.

03:36:17.000 I don't know.

03:36:40.000 You're citing every section and I don't I you know, I'm not extremely familiar with it, but I know that they clarified it There's a lot of misunderstanding around it and it doesn't say what the first version purports to say it does So I'm sure if you're doing research you can find the answers on that 0.99

03:36:58.000 Okay, you are being heretical.

03:37:17.000 Gary Baker sent $75.

03:37:20.000 I've been buying EMJ books on the Jews and dropping in the pews of every Catholic parish in my city. 0.99

03:37:25.000 Do you think this is a decent idea? 0.60

03:37:27.000 I just think we are powerless to defend ourselves until the Catholic Church regains consciousness on this issue because the Catholic Church is really the only organized body in the Western world.

03:37:36.000 Thank you for the big super chat.

03:37:38.000 I appreciate it.

03:37:39.000 Great idea.

03:37:40.000 Keep it up.

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03:37:47.000 I'm Hoplite sent $1,000.

03:37:49.000 No message.

03:37:51.000 Thank you for the... that definitely made it worth it.

03:37:53.000 Thank you for the huge super chat.

03:37:55.000 I appreciate it.

03:37:57.000 Yo! 1.00

03:37:58.000 Wow!

03:37:59.000 I'm Hoplite.

03:38:00.000 Can we get some 07s in the chat for I'm Hoplite?

03:38:05.000 Okay, and feel a little bit lighter now.

03:38:08.000 Feel the weight of this

03:38:11.000 Brutal stream.

03:38:12.000 Watching all this Destiny content. 0.94

03:38:15.000 Having to deal with you people annoying the shit out of me in the live chat.

03:38:19.000 Feel the weight lifting off my shoulders.

03:38:21.000 Thank you for the huge super chat.

03:38:23.000 I'm Hoplite.

03:38:24.000 Huge07.

03:38:26.000 God bless you, man.

03:38:27.000 We all love you.

03:38:29.000 Putting the stream on your back this week.

03:38:30.000 Thank you so much.

03:38:33.000 Cactus Lamarter sent $50. 0.98

03:38:35.000 Hey Nick, if the Talmud was never written, will the behavior of the Jews still be the same or a bit different? 0.99

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03:38:42.000 Christ is King.

03:38:43.000 I don't know.

03:38:44.000 I'm sure it'd be very similar.

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03:38:50.000 Shout out Canucks.

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03:38:54.000 ChadiBoy sent $20, I've managed to initiate like 10 people in my army unit and turn some of their friends and family anti-semitic.

03:39:01.000 I feel like I need to shut the fuck up but I get so excited and my articulation has been very successful. 0.99

03:39:07.000 Should I shut the fuck up? 0.99

03:39:08.000 I've found many people in some corners already know this stuff but don't talk. 1.00

03:39:12.000 You should just shut the fuck up forever about anything to anyone. 0.99

03:39:15.000 Cause you just sound annoying. 1.00

03:39:18.000 You sound like a faggot. 1.00

03:39:22.000 What is up with the super chat? 1.00

03:39:23.000 Okay, well thank you for the big super chat. 1.00

03:39:50.000 Yeah, fuck poor people for sure. 1.00

03:39:52.000 Only rich people can afford $100 Super Chat. 1.00

03:39:55.000 That's my audience.

03:39:57.000 If you're rich, send me $100.

03:40:00.000 And that means we're all winners.

03:40:02.000 You're a winner.

03:40:03.000 I'm a winner. 1.00

03:40:04.000 And if you're too poor to do that, fuck you. 1.00

03:40:07.000 You're too poor? 1.00

03:40:07.000 If you're too poor, $100 is not a lot of money to throw away at your favorite streamer. 1.00

03:40:14.000 If you can't do that, you're too poor to do that, fuck you. 1.00

03:40:17.000 No, I'm kidding. 1.00

03:40:18.000 Kidding, of course.

03:40:19.000 That's just a joke.

03:40:21.000 No, but thank you for the super chat.

03:40:25.000 Listen, losing a loved one is very difficult.

03:40:29.000 Friends, family, parents.

03:40:32.000 There's no getting around that.

03:40:34.000 The grief of losing someone close to you, one of the top five irreplaceable people in your life.

03:40:42.000 It's devastating.

03:40:43.000 There is nothing that can be said about that.

03:40:48.000 It is just a part of life.

03:40:50.000 We live, we die, and as surely as we die, those around us, some of them will die before us.

03:40:57.000 We will miss them before we die.

03:41:01.000 It is emotional.

03:41:06.000 That is life.

03:41:07.000 You know, I don't know what people are, whenever people ask me that question, I don't know what it is they're looking for.

03:41:13.000 Life is hard.

03:41:17.000 What's the remedy for that?

03:41:19.000 To go without pain?

03:41:20.000 To go without pain is to not be alive, really.

03:41:26.000 It's never to have loved, not to feel at all.

03:41:31.000 So pain, sadness, misery, it's part of life.

03:41:36.000 It's an essential, fundamental part of life.

03:41:39.000 It's actually the engine of life.

03:41:41.000 It's not just part of it.

03:41:44.000 It's fundamental.

03:41:45.000 Life is a function of pain, actually.

03:41:49.000 It's an inseparable part of the human experience.

03:41:53.000 So, when people say, oh, you know, someone I know died and I feel sad about it.

03:41:57.000 What do you do when you're sad?

03:41:58.000 Well, I'm sad.

03:42:01.000 You have to experience it.

03:42:03.000 So...

03:42:05.000 I don't know why death would separate you from God.

03:42:08.000 Death is a part, that's kind of part of the deal.

03:42:10.000 I don't think the Catholic religion says follow God and no one you love will die.

03:42:14.000 It's quite the opposite actually.

03:42:17.000 Faith is that we will be reunited with those people, that they're not actually dead.

03:42:26.000 But yeah, so I mean, that's just part of, that's part of life.

03:42:30.000 I don't know.

03:42:32.000 I understand why people get upset.

03:42:34.000 I never understand why I test people's faith.

03:42:36.000 I feel like I've known people that have died.

03:42:39.000 The story of history, it's a long story of people that have lived and then died.

03:42:45.000 So, was that surprising to you?

03:42:48.000 It might have been unexpected, but

03:42:54.000 As a surprise, would you have preferred that your father lived to see you die?

03:42:58.000 Because that's the only other way it could go. 0.52

03:43:02.000 Either your father dies and you live to see it, or you die and your father lives to see it.

03:43:08.000 Which would you prefer?

03:43:08.000 I think it should always be the case that the child lives to see the parents die.

03:43:15.000 In almost every case, that's what makes sense.

03:43:18.000 So you just have to resign yourself that that's actually your preferred outcome.

03:43:24.000 You should prefer that it's not easy.

03:43:26.000 You don't want the day to arrive when the two people that love you the most are not here, but what's the alternative?

03:43:36.000 The alternative is you die, and your parents live with the grief, and the grief is worse.

03:43:43.000 So, um...

03:43:45.000 So yeah.

03:43:47.000 So that's... I mean, my parents, thank God, are both still alive.

03:43:50.000 I hope they'll be alive for a long time.

03:43:52.000 But that's the one thing that gives me comfort, is knowing that I... I don't want them to die, but... I don't want to die before them.

03:44:00.000 And not just for my own sake, I know that if I died before them, it would be devastating for them.

03:44:07.000 Your parents dying is very sad, but it's also something that almost everybody goes through, just because of the order of birth.

03:44:17.000 The alternative is that the child dies, which is more grief.

03:44:26.000 So, that's my answer.

03:44:29.000 Thank you.

03:44:37.000 That's crazy that Tucker said that.

03:45:01.000 Ryan Dawson did $9.11 $10, UMG controls 32% of music industry more than Sony or Warner.

03:45:08.000 This alone can crush TikTok.

03:45:10.000 CEO is Lucien Grange, J, UMG owned by Baor, J, who own C for French Rothschild Bank.

03:45:17.000 Descends from Goldschmidt banking family Grandma was part of French version of CIA Stas worked with Mossad.

03:45:25.000 Yeah, thank you for all of that.

03:45:26.000 Yeah, absolutely true.

03:45:27.000 I think that's absolutely true.

03:45:28.000 I don't know... I think it's possible.

03:45:30.000 I don't know if you could say... That's certainly one theory.

03:45:32.000 I don't know if you can prove that.

03:45:54.000 It's evidence that that's the case but I don't know if that's absolute proof.

03:46:00.000 Bill Ackman being an owner is evidence in that direction though for sure.

03:46:04.000 Hold it down for the set my man.

03:46:07.000 Thank you.

03:46:15.000 BlackRoe I% $10, side note, the level of access Destiny has to popular internet media figures is frustrating.

03:46:22.000 Especially when contrasting the insight and sharpness of your ideas to his lack thereof.

03:46:26.000 There's a future with you back in the spotlight coming.

03:46:29.000 The tide is turning.

03:46:31.000 People are, slowly, waking up.

03:46:33.000 I hope so.

03:46:34.000 It's kind of frustrating.

03:46:35.000 It's like everybody got red-pilled.

03:46:36.000 I already paid the price for like seven years.

03:46:39.000 I've been buried in censorship all this time.

03:46:41.000 Now everybody gets red-pilled?

03:46:43.000 It's like, hey Candace, I've been saying I got cancelled just like you seven years ago.

03:46:48.000 So, must be nice to figure it out when Elon has Twitter and you got Rumble and... But, it is what it is.

03:46:57.000 Hopefully, hopefully I get another play at the mainstream, but thank you.

03:47:01.000 I appreciate it. 1.00

03:47:04.000 Yeah, cuz I'm sick, you fucking faggot. 1.00

03:47:15.000 Cuz I'm sick. 1.00

03:47:16.000 She did a show on Tuesday and said, I hope I don't die that hasn't been seen since.

03:47:21.000 I told you, I'm probably not gonna do a show this week.

03:47:24.000 I'm doing day streams because it's not as taxing because I have a respiratory virus. 1.00

03:47:30.000 Fucking loser. 1.00

03:47:31.000 Fuck you. 1.00

03:47:32.000 I just hate the live chat. 1.00

03:47:34.000 People that watch the show are idiots. 1.00

03:47:51.000 Thank you. 1.00

03:47:52.000 Very true.

03:47:52.000 You're right about that.

03:48:07.000 Mmm, yes.

03:48:08.000 Very true.

03:48:09.000 Freya Woods sent $3.

03:48:10.000 What's your eschatology?

03:48:12.000 And if not universalism, why?

03:48:14.000 Because that's heresy? 0.96

03:48:16.000 Some will go to hell. 0.97

03:48:18.000 Mandelbrot sent $20. 0.95

03:48:19.000 He is serious?

03:48:21.000 Or is he so entrenched in this persona that he's forced to stick with it?

03:48:24.000 Broadly speaking. 1.00

03:48:25.000 I think he's just dumb. 1.00

03:48:26.000 He's a sophist. 1.00

03:48:27.000 I think he's a nihilist and a sophist.

03:48:29.000 I think he just doesn't care.

03:48:30.000 It's not about that for him.

03:48:33.000 The credit belongs to JimboZoomer Experience. 1.00

03:48:35.000 JimboZoomer is the one that really shined the light on Destiny's stupidity and ignorance. 1.00

03:48:38.000 If it wasn't for JimboZoomer Experience, the world would not know how stupid he is. 1.00

03:49:01.000 So all the credit is for Jimbo. 1.00

03:49:03.000 Yeah, I wonder if he knew all that.

03:49:05.000 Cause that's a little sus. 0.99

03:49:06.000 Little bit sus. 1.00

03:49:18.000 Hey, thank you man.

03:49:19.000 Thanks for the super chat.

03:49:20.000 We love you.

03:49:20.000 We love you, Muslim.

03:49:40.000 Thank you very much. 1.00

03:49:41.000 You know, it's Muslims and Christians against these Jews that are just raping our country and censoring everybody and giving everybody a hard time. 1.00

03:49:51.000 So I really appreciate it, man. 1.00

03:49:53.000 God bless.

03:49:56.000 America First!

03:49:57.000 Let's go! 0.99

03:49:58.000 Well, I know this guy's not gay because he sent me $100. 0.99

03:50:00.000 W. Sewer Lizard sent $15. 0.93

03:50:03.000 Turkey Tom can't keep his hands off Destiny. 0.87

03:50:06.000 WTF. 0.75

03:50:07.000 Yeah, a little sus. 0.99

03:50:08.000 A little freaky.

03:50:10.000 Yeah, nice work.

03:50:11.000 I followed that channel. 0.86

03:50:12.000 Someone says Candace got asked a Spurgy JQ question.

03:50:14.000 4410.

03:50:14.000 Alright, let's see.

03:50:16.000 Guys, don't be trying to grope her.

03:50:18.000 Leave her alone, please. 1.00

03:50:40.000 Question but you've said that you're a big believer in free speech and discussing controversial topics I'm sorry big believer in what free speech and discussing controversial topics.

03:50:50.000 Yes in your To the people that are dressed up as clowns you guys can literally come to the front let them go first just like free speech and discussing controversial topics I'm sorry big believer in what

03:51:02.000 Free speech and discussing controversial topics.

03:51:05.000 Yes.

03:51:06.000 In your most recent interview with Rabbi Barkley, I believe.

03:51:10.000 Yeah, that was yesterday.

03:51:11.000 He said that Jews that don't support Zionism are essentially self-hating Jews. 0.77

03:51:16.000 Yeah.

03:51:17.000 Just recently, Kristi Noem, who is on the shortlist for Trump's vice president pick, passed the Ensuring the Security of God's Chosen People law in South Dakota.

03:51:26.000 I didn't know this.

03:51:27.000 Effectively making it illegal to be anti-semitic.

03:51:30.000 Richard Nixon said that Zionist Jews in America believe that putting Israel first does not mean you're putting America second.

03:51:37.000 The definition of a fifth column is a group of persons inside the battle lines of a territory engaged in a conflict who secretly sympathize with the enemy, also sometimes referred to as a Trojan horse.

03:51:49.000 The ADL trains every new FBI agent on their role as protect-

03:51:53.000 It's too much!

03:51:54.000 It's too much!

03:51:55.000 It's too much!

03:51:57.000 Didn't I teach you guys anything?

03:51:59.000 When you ask these questions, it can't be a monologue. 1.00

03:52:02.000 You're trying to put 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag. 1.00

03:52:05.000 Q&A is not the time to create, like, a proof for anti-Semitism. 1.00

03:52:12.000 Well, you know, and establishing all these different—South Dakota law makes it illegal to be anti-Semitic.

03:52:17.000 Richard Nixon said you could be Israel first and not be anti-Semitic.

03:52:21.000 The definition of a fifth column is this.

03:52:23.000 Like, where—this is a 10-point proof.

03:52:26.000 We're good to go.

03:52:44.000 The ADL is an organization that associates America First patriots with extremism, terrorism, and bigotry.

03:52:51.000 My question to you is, what is so extreme about wanting to preserve this country's national identity and putting America first?

03:52:57.000 Do you think a special interest group like the ADL lobbying for bipartisan support of Israel's interests before the United States would qualify them as a fifth column?

03:53:08.000 Thank you.

03:53:09.000 Thank you for your question.

03:53:10.000 It's a loaded one.

03:53:11.000 You're trying to get me in trouble.

03:53:14.000 And I will answer your question.

03:53:15.000 First and foremost, I think that lobbying should be banned full stop.

03:53:18.000 I think our politicians are bought and paid for.

03:53:21.000 Yeah, why are you trying to grope her? 0.86

03:53:23.000 Do not, please stop trying to grope her.

03:53:26.000 She has been more honest than most.

03:53:29.000 She has gone just about as far as you can.

03:53:33.000 We're good to go.

03:53:50.000 After she's come this far, she's gonna turtle.

03:53:52.000 She's gonna go back in the shell. 0.99

03:53:54.000 She's gonna say, okay, you know, I'm not being embraced.

03:53:56.000 You know, I'm getting, I'm getting drawn further and further into this controversy.

03:54:04.000 So that was just a wrong move and the question was just like Convoluted like not an appropriate way to structure that for that setting So don't if that was a griper, please stop trying to it was it wasn't bad.

03:54:19.000 It wasn't like Theoretically wasn't bad, but you're asking the wrong person.

03:54:24.000 You should be asking the other people and Too long too many moving parts You know you're trying to write a thesis there

03:54:35.000 We'll watch her answer that one.

03:54:39.000 When we're talking about a swamp, and if you want to know the reason why they go to D.C.

03:54:43.000 and they never want to come out, it's because they're making money a thousand different ways because of lobbyists.

03:54:47.000 The biggest lobby is obviously Big Pharma, which I dedicate all of my time talking about, and your APAC, ADL.

03:54:55.000 Obviously, we understand that there is a very, very powerful lobby that's pro-Israel in D.C.

03:55:02.000 Now, in terms of my own viewpoints on it, just like I said, I think lobbying should be banned.

03:55:08.000 I think it's wrong.

03:55:08.000 There's nothing wrong with being America First.

03:55:10.000 Yeah, you're forcing her to cop out on that one. 0.99

03:55:13.000 Do not pressure her, please.

03:55:17.000 Alright.

03:55:17.000 Thank you for that.

03:55:29.000 Cozy Clips sent $100, there is a big debate on Twitter.

03:55:33.000 Would a Christian nationalist government ban Judaism and Islam or not? 1.00

03:55:37.000 That's a dumb question. 0.99

03:55:38.000 Why would we even be debating that right now? 1.00

03:55:40.000 That's just like bait for you to make yourself completely alienated from everybody.

03:55:45.000 Here's a question that helps us. 0.99

03:55:48.000 Should the government be Christian? 0.99

03:55:51.000 Yes. 0.99

03:55:52.000 And many people, as time goes on, are going to say, yes, yes it should be.

03:55:55.000 Yes, we should have Christian laws.

03:55:57.000 Here's a question that hurts us. 0.98

03:55:58.000 Should we ban every religion that isn't Christianity? 0.54

03:56:04.000 Because that sets you up where if you say no, then, well, you're not sufficiently Christian. 1.00

03:56:09.000 If you say yes, then anyone who isn't Christian or isn't very Christian is gonna say, oh, fuck this guy, he's an extremist. 0.99

03:56:16.000 So, I don't know who's asking that question. 0.99

03:56:18.000 Is that a question by the ADL?

03:56:19.000 Is that a question by Destiny?

03:56:22.000 Who's asking that one and trying to get, who's trying to purity spiral or, on the other hand, trying to get people in trouble?

03:56:33.000 Oh, it's Mio and Beardson.

03:56:34.000 Oh, I'm really su- Wow, that's really surprising.

03:56:38.000 That's really shocking that that's where that came from.

03:56:41.000 I'm floored that something tactically- that's a tactical hindrance came from that think tank, from that General Milieu.

03:56:50.000 I'm totally shocked.

03:56:53.000 What a surprise that I'm over here, like, me and Keith Woods are on big streams and putting out big tweets, redpilling people every day with solid rhetoric and talking points, and then from the Groyper milieu came something totally self-defeating.

03:57:10.000 I'm just sh- I am just absolutely shocked.

03:57:14.000 That from the Gruyper think tank, the Gruyper milieu, is like maybe one of the worst questions we could ask at this moment. 0.70

03:57:21.000 Should we ban- like right now, Muslims and Christians are basically in agreement that Jews did 9-11 and killed JFK and are committing a genocide and hate everybody.

03:57:31.000 What's the one thing that could sow division between them? 0.95

03:57:34.000 I know! 0.98

03:57:35.000 We have to double down on antagonizing Muslims in a hypothetical scenario where a Christian nationalist government gets elected. 1.00

03:57:44.000 We're gonna ban you guys! 1.00

03:57:46.000 What the fuck? 1.00

03:57:48.000 I'm so surprised. 1.00

03:57:50.000 That's crazy.

03:57:55.000 Alright.

03:57:57.000 Sheesh.

03:57:58.000 Thank you for the big super chat though.

03:58:02.000 Sinful sent $10.

03:58:03.000 Thoughts on Robert Sepper?

03:58:07.000 I don't really know anything about him.

03:58:09.000 We had a couple of exchanges when I was on Twitter as Autumn Groyper, but I've never really seen his content.

03:58:16.000 Like.1 sent $100.

03:58:18.000 Soup money?

03:58:18.000 Thank you for the soup money.

03:58:20.000 I'm very sick.

03:58:20.000 I'm very congested.

03:58:22.000 So thank you.

03:58:23.000 I appreciate it.

03:58:24.000 Thank you for the big super chat.

03:58:26.000 That's a lot of Panera Bread.

03:58:30.000 John Dave Irving sent $1,001.

03:58:31.000 Whoa! 0.71

03:58:32.000 Hoplite has blackmail on me and threatened to have his illegal immigrant employees come after me if I didn't own him. 0.96

03:58:38.000 Hey! 1.00

03:58:39.000 W Hoplite!

03:58:39.000 Well, you one-upped him!

03:58:41.000 Oh seven, John Dave, wow!

03:58:44.000 This is a great stream.

03:58:45.000 This is the greatest stream ever.

03:58:47.000 I told you guys it was gonna be a good stream.

03:58:50.000 I told you it'd be a good stream.

03:58:52.000 I don't know if you like the Destiny content, but that's two grand, which is two super chats.

03:58:57.000 So hey, thank you very much, John Dave Irving.

03:59:00.000 This is a rich nigga. 1.00

03:59:02.000 These are two rich niggas. 0.98

03:59:04.000 I'm Hoplite and John Dave Irving is Moneybags. 0.73

03:59:08.000 Moneybags over here.

03:59:11.000 In a bidding war.

03:59:11.000 1,000-1,001.

03:59:12.000 Thank you very much, John Dave Irving.

03:59:16.000 We love you.

03:59:17.000 I saw you on a Twitter space the other day.

03:59:19.000 Very funny stuff.

03:59:21.000 Love both of you guys.

03:59:22.000 And they're funny, too.

03:59:24.000 I'm Hoplite was... He was... I don't want to dox him, but this guy was up to... He was standing on business recently.

03:59:30.000 I don't want to dox, but I heard some reports. 0.99

03:59:33.000 This guy's fucking badass. 0.98

03:59:35.000 He was standing on business. 0.99

03:59:36.000 John Dave Irving stands on business, too.

03:59:38.000 He's got the fastest car I've ever been in.

03:59:41.000 Hey, so thank you very much, buddy.

03:59:43.000 I'm gonna gla... Little glazing for both of you.

03:59:46.000 Little post-huge super chat glazing is in order for the both of you.

03:59:51.000 But thanks a lot, guys.

03:59:53.000 07s to the both of them.

03:59:55.000 They have funded the show.

03:59:56.000 FloridaGroiper sent $3.

03:59:57.000 I think it would be cool if you did an analysis of Ron Paul x Tuck.

04:00:01.000 Thoughts?

04:00:02.000 Boring?

04:00:02.000 Sounds boring.

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04:00:06.000 PaulTown gives the best aura.

04:00:08.000 Vamp status equals uncontested.

04:00:10.000 The aura?

04:00:11.000 Yeah.

04:00:11.000 PaulTown has an unmatched aura.

04:00:14.000 He's one of the only streamers I watch these days.

04:00:16.000 Him, JimboZoomerExperience.

04:00:19.000 They got the aura.

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04:00:34.000 Thank you for that.

04:00:36.000 Pooh vibe. 1.00

04:00:36.000 Shut up. 1.00

04:00:37.000 Just shut the fuck up, loser. 1.00

04:00:38.000 And kill yourself. 1.00

04:00:38.000 Thank you. 1.00

04:00:39.000 I love me too.

04:00:53.000 Donald Farrell sent $15, thank you for the The Star Wars trailer review.

04:00:58.000 Just saying what we're all thinking.

04:01:00.000 I legit can't watch anything produced after 2016 anymore.

04:01:03.000 Sad.

04:01:04.000 Had me laughing my ass off though.

04:01:06.000 Keep it up! 0.66

04:01:07.000 True, yeah. 1.00

04:01:08.000 No more, no more Nig Jedi, please. 1.00

04:01:11.000 Why? 1.00

04:01:11.000 Why all Nig Troopers, Nig Jedi? 1.00

04:01:15.000 Come on, man. 1.00

04:01:16.000 Give us a white guy Jedi. 0.89

04:01:17.000 Give us a white guy Stormtrooper. 0.95

04:01:19.000 Enough. 0.80

04:01:20.000 Even the Fallout TV show.

04:01:22.000 Fallout TV show.

04:01:23.000 I know a good idea. 1.00

04:01:25.000 A stupid fucking bitch Vault Dweller and a Nig Brotherhood of Steel guy. 1.00

04:01:30.000 And a zombie. 1.00

04:01:33.000 Where's the fucking white guys? 1.00

04:01:35.000 Fallout, Star Wars, The Avengers. 1.00

04:01:40.000 We want Iron Man.

04:01:41.000 We want Anakin.

04:01:43.000 This is what we want.

04:01:44.000 These are the just and reasonable demands of the American people.

04:01:53.000 So yeah, I've had enough of that Jedi dreadlocks.

04:01:57.000 Obi-Wan Kennega. 0.99

04:02:00.000 Please, let's just have some white people in Star Wars again. 0.92

04:02:03.000 Is that too much? 0.94

04:02:05.000 To ask for?

04:02:05.000 Because they're dispensationalists.

04:02:09.000 They believe that...

04:02:25.000 The Israel in the Bible is the Jewish state of Israel that was founded 70 years ago.

04:02:32.000 And propaganda.

04:02:33.000 A lot of propaganda and Christian dispensationalist propaganda. 0.72

04:02:37.000 It's very simple. 0.62

04:02:39.000 Religious propaganda. 0.81

04:02:40.000 Catholics don't accept this, but Protestants do. 0.94

04:02:45.000 Okay, that's the last Super Chat. 1.00

04:02:47.000 Geesh.

04:02:50.000 Oh, brother. 1.00

04:02:52.000 These Super Chats suck. 1.00

04:02:54.000 Okay. 1.00

04:02:55.000 Well, that's gonna do it for me on the stream.

04:02:57.000 I'm not doing a show tonight.

04:02:59.000 Hopefully, I'll be back tomorrow.

04:03:00.000 I've been under the weather.

04:03:01.000 I've been very congested, so I'm kind of leaning on the reaction content, so I don't have to do a long monologue.

04:03:09.000 But I'll most likely be... I'll try my best.

04:03:11.000 I think I'll be back tomorrow doing the show.

04:03:14.000 Not doing a show tonight, but I'll be back tomorrow, okay?

04:03:17.000 Probably.

04:03:18.000 Most likely tomorrow.

04:03:20.000 Probably.

04:03:22.000 I'll do a stream tomorrow either way.

04:03:24.000 I'll either do a commentary stream tomorrow or I'll do a show.

04:03:27.000 I will stream tomorrow.

04:03:29.000 I don't know if it'll be a show or commentary though, but that's gonna do it for me today.

04:03:34.000 I hope you liked the stream.

04:03:35.000 Thanks for watching.

04:03:36.000 Thanks to our Super Chatters, especially John Dave Irving.

04:03:41.000 I'm Hoplite.

04:03:43.000 It's not listing all of them though.

04:03:45.000 I don't know why.

04:03:45.000 It's not listing everybody I need to name.

04:03:49.000 But thanks everybody that's giving a big super chat.

04:03:51.000 Especially though, I'm Hoplite John Dave Irving.

04:03:54.000 We love you guys.

04:03:56.000 Thanks everybody for watching.

04:03:58.000 I hope you liked it.

04:03:59.000 I'm gonna pick a outro song and then I'm getting out of here.

04:04:04.000 And I gotta get a Big Mac.

04:04:08.000 I gotta get a... something.

04:04:11.000 I'm starving.

04:04:11.000 I haven't eaten all day.

04:04:17.000 How about a little Vultures?

04:04:19.000 That's like four minutes, though.

04:04:24.000 Need something shorter.

04:04:25.000 How about... How about this is a good song?

04:04:30.000 Alright, alright.

04:04:31.000 I'm outta here.

04:04:33.000 Thanks for watching.

04:04:34.000 See you guys tomorrow.

04:04:37.000 Candace Owens W. Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!

04:04:46.000 It's going to be only America!

04:05:46.000 Thanks for watching! 0.61

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - March 21, 2024

"Mind of Destiny" Turkey Tom Documentary

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