00:36:09.000So we've all seen the videos, we've all seen the live streams, we all saw what happened last night.
00:36:16.000And this was, of course, in response to the death of George Floyd, the 46 year old black guy who allegedly, allegedly and presumptively was choked to death by a police officer during an arrest.
00:36:32.000And so it started out last night as peaceful protests.
00:36:35.000Rapidly escalated into arson, looting, graffiti, vandalism, shooting in some cases.
00:38:57.000We talked about it last night, Section 230, and we've talked about Section 230 before on the show.
00:39:02.000We've talked about it for years and a lot.
00:39:06.000So I'm sure a lot of you probably already get the gist, but I'll explain again for people that don't know Section 230.
00:39:12.000I'll explain what this executive order does with Section 230 and to what extent this is going to have an outcome on social media companies.
00:39:20.000But honestly, I was very pleasantly surprised because my assumption yesterday.
00:39:28.000Was that we weren't going to get an executive order today.
00:39:30.000I assumed, because this is what we've seen for years, that either we would just simply not get an executive order and it would just be pushed back until next week and then the week after that and then we'd never hear about it again, or that there would be an executive order, but it would be so bad and so toothless that it'd hardly be any better than doing nothing at all.
00:39:53.000We got an executive order and it was pretty good.
00:39:58.000Like I said, it was targeting the Section 230 protections, and that is the most viable way to go about it.
00:40:03.000Now, there's a question as to whether or not the executive branch can do anything about Section 230 protections.
00:40:11.000That's a legal question, and probably the legislative branch, you know, the Congress will have the final say on this, and the courts too.
00:40:20.000But in spite of the fact that the executive branch has sort of dubious jurisdiction over Section 230 and the CDA, Nevertheless, that is in the spotlight and that is in the crosshairs, and that is the path which the president has chosen.
00:40:35.000I think that signals that there is seriousness from the White House about this issue.
00:40:40.000If he had come out with some executive order about, I don't even know, maybe something suggestive, maybe they would create a task force, something like that, I don't know if I'd be as excited.
00:40:49.000But Section 230, that is what we need.
00:40:52.000If they're going to get serious about it, that's what they have to use.
00:40:58.000It's been a very eventful 24 hours, right?
00:41:01.000Just as I'm about to go on vacation, I guess we caught it.
00:41:05.000I guess we caught the news before I leave town.
00:41:09.000Every time I go on vacation, that's when the cool stuff happens.
00:41:13.000I'm here every week, every night for three years.
00:41:19.000Every weeknight, every week for three years.
00:41:23.000I think I've taken a handful of breaks.
00:41:27.000And even during the breaks, it's business.
00:41:29.000You know, I'm going to West Palm Beach or I'm going to Miami or I'm going to.
00:41:35.000Nashville for Politicon or whatever, you know?
00:41:38.000So I've been at this for three years and I can tell you, and you know, there are stretches of time where there's nothing, nothing going on, nothing to talk about, nothing interesting.
00:41:52.000And invariably, every time that I take a step back, the offhand times that I do, and that's when all the cool stuff happens.
00:42:00.000Like, I'm literally about to leave town and, oh yeah, Minneapolis is on fire.
00:42:05.000And the social media censorship executive orders passed.
00:42:19.000We've been talking about race on this show specifically for like the past four weeks, talking about Stacey Abrams and Ahmaud Arbery and 1619 and special elections and the day before I leave.
00:43:00.000I think it is Monday, June 8th, is when I return, and I will still be updating you on Twitter and Telegram, and I'll still be on social media.
00:46:14.000It's sort of like, you know, it's a little bit of a LARP.
00:46:18.000And I wanted to wait until after the vacation so it would be kind of like a stark contrast.
00:46:23.000Like I disappear and then I come back, no beard, haircut, everything.
00:46:27.000But I'm doing some business type things while I'm gone.
00:46:32.000You know, it's not totally like a vacation.
00:46:35.000You know, there's some work that has to be done.
00:46:37.000So I had to clean myself up to be a little bit presentable because I'm leaving tomorrow morning.
00:46:43.000So, I had to schedule an appointment with the barber for today, but like off the books because the barbers aren't supposed to open until tomorrow.
00:46:52.000So, it's technically like illegal or against the rules.
00:46:56.000So, I had to call specially and say, Hey, can I get in on Thursday in like the afternoon?
00:53:25.000You know, when my throat hurts like this, it's almost like when you get a minigun in a video game, and like, it's not like you'll run out of ammo, but it'll get overheated.
00:53:38.000That's like what happens to my throat.
00:53:40.000That's like what happens to my voice tonight.
00:53:43.000Whenever I lose my voice, it's like whenever you get the cannon or like a minigun in a video game, and it's like, you're not going to run out of ammo.
00:53:51.000It's definitely overpowered, but it's going to overheat.
00:54:41.000It's not the most important issue in terms of policy, in terms of the substance of politics, but in terms of the process of politics, it is the crux of whatever movement we can hope to have in this century.
00:54:56.000And process is more important than substance or output.
00:55:14.000That immigrants come here and commit crime, steal jobs, change the culture, change the social fabric.
00:55:20.000You know, so we could say that in terms of policy, in terms of the output of politics, immigration is number one.
00:55:28.000But if we want to change immigration, we have to get elected, we have to persuade, we have to inform, we have to get our ideas out there.
00:55:40.000So, before you can even think about what we need to do for our reforms, we need to get in a position to do the reforming.
00:55:48.000You know, that's why the process is more important than the actual stuff that we want to do because we have to be in a position to do those things first.
00:55:56.000And social media is the first step in that because that is the only way that dissidents, that people that are not on board with the liberal consensus, people that are not a part of the status quo, that's the only way that we can achieve mass influence over the country.
00:56:12.000That's the only way that we can participate in and engage with mass media.
00:56:17.000And I explained that in greater detail yesterday, but that's the gist.
00:56:21.000And so that's why it's hard to overstate what a big deal this is, that we're getting the ball rolling on this.
00:56:25.000So the timeline of events is that a couple of weeks ago, the president tweeted out, Thank you to the keyboard warriors.
00:56:35.000He said, Thank you to all my keyboard warriors.
00:56:38.000And a lot of people, myself included, pointed out to the president that his keyboard warriors are getting banned.
00:57:17.000And then that's when Twitter intervened, kind of in an unrelated way, and they put a special disclaimer on one of his tweets about mail in ballots.
00:57:27.000The president put out a tweet this weekend saying that if we switched over to exclusively mail ballots for the 2020 presidential election, there would be voting fraud.
00:57:37.000And Twitter, the company, intervened and put on a special disclaimer built into the tweet itself saying that that was disinformation or saying that that was.
00:57:49.000What was the exact terminology saying that that was an unsubstantiated claim?
00:57:57.000Twitter has never intervened with that feature in that capacity, but they applied that.
00:58:02.000I guess they rolled it out for the first time on the president of the United States' tweet about voter fraud.
00:58:09.000Like, did they think that was a good idea?
00:58:12.000That was possibly, and I said this last night, but to recap, that was possibly the worst thing that they could have done.
00:58:19.000Because, and like I said last night, you can ban Alex Jones, and you're probably not going to face huge repercussions from the institutional forces in this country.
00:58:30.000You can ban racist people, let's say the N word, you could ban people making death threats.
00:58:35.000I think a lot of that is like, Par for the course.
00:58:37.000And by that, I don't mean like it's justified or good.
00:58:40.000By that, I mean that Jack Dorsey is not going to ruffle anybody's feathers in the federal bureaucracy when he does that.
00:58:47.000He is not going to make enemies out of the government when he does that.
00:58:51.000But when the president of the United States tweets about elections, and not about campaigning, but about elections, about the integrity of elections and the process of elections, and Twitter interferes with that, and they put a special disclaimer, never before done, on a tweet about electioneering.
00:59:10.000Essentially calling the president a liar or questioning his credibility?
00:59:15.000You know, of all the arguments that could be made in favor of Twitter being able to make editorial decisions like that, I think that's about as close to the line as you can come to violating the First Amendment or violating some law or some statute when you begin to interfere in elections.
00:59:35.000Because then people start to ask questions about, in the government and elsewhere, about what role media and social media play in elections.
00:59:44.000Gee, maybe their role is too great when there's no accountability.
00:59:49.000Maybe a private citizen like Jack Dorsey running a private company like Twitter has just a little bit too much power over elections when they are handling essentially these oligopolistic corporations that have massive influence over hundreds of millions of voters.
01:00:07.000I mean, and this just shows all the problems.
01:00:11.000I think it lays all these problems bare, that one instance.
01:00:14.000I don't think the president was thinking that.
01:00:15.000I think the president perceived that as a personal slight.
01:00:34.000Twitter puts one disclaimer on my tweet real shit.
01:00:37.000You know, how many people has he watched and have we collectively watched and I've experienced get banned, demonetized, shadow banned, had their users or channels scrubbed from the search algorithm or from the recommended algorithm?
01:00:53.000On YouTube and other platforms, only for the president to act when he himself is impacted in a minor way, right?
01:01:17.000Last night, they announced an executive order that was being prepared.
01:01:21.000The president signed it today, and this is a report about the executive order.
01:01:26.000It says, quote, President Trump signed an executive order on Thursday designed to limit the legal protections that shield social media companies from liability for the content that users post on their platforms.
01:01:38.000Currently, social media giants like Twitter receive an unprecedented liability shield based on the theory that they are a neutral platform, which they are not, said Trump in the Oval Office.
01:01:51.000It is unfair and it's been very unfair.
01:01:54.000The order comes after the president escalated his attacks against big tech in recent days.
01:01:59.000Specifically, Twitter, which fact checked him for the first time this week over an unsubstantiated claim that mail in voting drives voter fraud.
01:02:08.000The order focuses on a portion of the Communications Decency Act known as Section 230, which grants broad liability protections to tech platforms from civil suits when it comes to what users post, and would direct the Commerce Department to press the Federal Communications Commission to create new regulations aimed at pulling back that shield.
01:02:31.000It also asks the Federal Trade Commission to report on acts of political bias collected by the White House.
01:02:37.000Attorney General Bill Barr said that the administration is preparing legislation as well.
01:02:42.000So, to explain briefly Section 230, this was a part of the Communications Decency Act, which passed about 25 years ago.
01:02:52.000And the premise of Section 230 is this it says that in order to facilitate free discourse on the Internet, free speech, but specifically political discourse, It's in Section 230.
01:03:06.000The reason the protections were passed, and I'll get into what the protections are, but it's very important.
01:03:12.000The language says in Section 230 that in order to facilitate free speech and free discourse about politics, politics is a big part of it, they are going to grant a special immunity to these tech companies when it comes to civil suits.
01:03:29.000So, in other words, Twitter and Facebook and YouTube under Section 230.
01:03:36.000Get a special legal immunity, special protections when it comes to content posted on their platforms.
01:03:42.000Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and others are not legally liable for the content posted on their platform.
01:03:51.000And the reasoning, the intention behind that is in order to facilitate free speech, specifically with regard to politics and about the country.
01:04:01.000But the justification for this is that these are platforms.
01:04:06.000And when you have massive platforms and you have users on these platforms, you know, that will write a tweet and then click post, there is not a reasonable expectation when anyone and anybody can post whatever they want that Twitter and Facebook and YouTube are, in a sense, publishing these things.
01:04:27.000If I go on Twitter and I say something that is legally actionable, I'm publishing that through Twitter.
01:04:36.000They are not a publisher, they're a platform for.
01:04:39.000Many publishers, hundreds of millions of publishers, to publish their content through the platform.
01:04:44.000Now, they're only a platform, and those legal protections are dependent on them being a platform when they are not making editorial decisions.
01:04:53.000This is where this executive order comes in.
01:04:56.000This executive order argues that if Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and the big social media companies are making editorial decisions, they're not just saying, well, you can't post this, it's a threat of violence.
01:05:06.000You can't post this, it's against the law.
01:05:09.000But if they start to say, you can't post this, we don't like your politics.
01:05:13.000You can't say that someone is an illegal immigrant.
01:05:15.000That's against the community guidelines.
01:05:20.000You can't say hate speech or something like that.
01:05:23.000Well, then that drifts into editorial decisions.
01:05:27.000And if they're deciding what does not go on the platform based on their own bias, based on totally arbitrary, again, editorial standards, then in a sense, what they're not eliminating from the platform is, in a sense, endorsed.
01:05:43.000If Twitter is banning lots of content that doesn't violate the law, that isn't indecent or anything like that, but that they just don't agree with, it's an editorial basis for those decisions, then they are, in a sense, green lighting all the content that isn't eliminated.
01:05:59.000They are, in a sense, endorsing or whatever you want to say through complicity all the content that is published.
01:06:07.000And then, therefore, they are the publisher.
01:06:10.000And if they are a publisher, then they don't get the legal immunity, they don't get the protections.
01:06:15.000Because if you're publishing, And therefore, you know, you're responsible for the content.
01:06:20.000Why would you not be culpable in a legal sense if things are posted online that, you know, then there's a civil suit or something like that?
01:06:50.000I mean, effectively, yes, they can go in and they do ban whoever they want.
01:06:54.000But the only reason these platforms exist and thrive is because of special legal protections from the government.
01:07:04.000You know, so this is not a perfect analogy, but, you know, this is like any other monopoly created by the government.
01:07:10.000If the government said, we're going to ban all hamburger stands except for McDonald's, and then McDonald's said, I'm banning you from my premises, and Or, you know, we're going to make all these goofy decisions.
01:07:23.000And then people said, hey, well, you know, they're a private company.
01:07:26.000Private companies can do what they want.
01:07:40.000But you understand that you can't really make the claim that they're essentially independent from government when they're totally reliant and dependent on, you know, these special laws.
01:07:50.000The special privileges given to them by the Congress, which they don't even deserve.
01:07:57.000And what's tricky is the actual enforcement because the Communications Decency Act, of which Section 230 is a part, that's where those immunities come from.
01:08:10.000That was obviously a bill from the Congress.
01:08:12.000And therefore, that is under the jurisdiction of the Congress.
01:08:16.000So what this draft does, what's in the draft and what the executive order does, Is it instructs the FCC to revise those guidelines?
01:08:27.000It instructs, and I'll get into this, I'll read more specifically what's in the draft, but this is really more creating advisory, it's creating data collection, and it's creating things like that.
01:08:39.000So the executive order in itself isn't really actionable in the sense that it's not like these legal immunities are going to evaporate because of it, and it's not like, you know, Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey and Susan Wojcicki are going to.
01:08:55.000Be legally mandated to stop banning right wing accounts because of it.
01:08:59.000But it is going to create maybe a basis or a foundation or a framework for Congress to go in and change these things or potentially for a future legal battle.
01:09:10.000Because ultimately, the executive branch, there isn't really a strong argument that they have jurisdiction over this issue.
01:09:18.000There are tools that the White House can use, like the DOJ and the FTC and the FCC, through regulatory powers.
01:09:25.000But they don't have really enforcement powers or lawmaking powers.
01:09:28.000They don't have the power to create precedent or interpretation.
01:10:16.000It says, It is the policy of the United States to foster clear, non discriminatory ground rules promoting free and open debate on the Internet.
01:10:24.000Prominent among those rules is the immunity from liability created by Section 230C of the Communications Decency Act 47 U.S.C. 230.
01:10:36.000It is the policy of the United States that the scope of that immunity should be clarified.
01:10:41.000It says that the emergency and growth of online platforms in recent years.
01:10:46.000Raises important questions about applying the ideals of the First Amendment to modern communications technology, and that online platforms are engaging in selective censorship that is hurting our national discourse.
01:10:58.000The draft order proposed that an online tool for tech bias reporting created by the White House Office of Digital Strategy be reestablished to collect complaints of online censorship and other potentially unfair or deceptive acts or practices by online platforms and shall submit complaints received to the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission.
01:11:20.000It directs the FTC to develop a report based off of the complaints and then make that report public, consistent with applicable law.
01:11:29.000Section 4 of the draft order also says that the Attorney General shall establish a working group regarding the potential enforcement of state statutes that prohibit online platforms from engaging in unfair and deceptive acts and practices.
01:11:44.000The White House Office of Digital Strategy is directed to submit complaints received to this working group.
01:11:50.000The order also directs the working group to collect publicly available information on monitoring or creating watch lists of users based on their interactions with content or users and monitoring users based on their activity off of the platform.
01:12:05.000So, like I said, this is a lot of guidance, data collection, things like that.
01:12:09.000They're opening up a reporting function.
01:12:12.000They're going to get a working group together to see what can be done using applicable laws.
01:12:16.000They're going to put together, with the Office of Digital Strategy, this program where they're going to collect.
01:12:23.000Information on different users, presumably that are being censored or banned or shadow banned or whatever.
01:12:29.000So, the executive order in itself is, I don't think, going to do much in itself, but perhaps it will pave a way for the White House to pursue something.
01:12:40.000And also, they say that they're working on drafting legislation.
01:12:43.000The White House and Bill Barr said they're working on legislation.
01:12:47.000Josh Hawley said today, the senator from Missouri, he said that he will be drafting legislation.
01:12:56.000So, you know, this is something that might not have a ton of efficacy in itself, but this is going to lay the groundwork and the foundation legally and maybe politically for something serious to happen.
01:13:10.000So, it's not like a huge grand slam, it doesn't fix everything, but here's what I will say this is about as much as the president can do.
01:13:21.000So, this is different from like immigration or from.
01:13:25.000Like the foreign wars, where with a lot of those, you know, you might say, well, it's not a grand slam, but it's pretty good.
01:13:38.000For example, like with immigration, the president will pass an executive order, and we're like, you know, well, it's not terrible, but it's not really great.
01:14:19.000You need the courts to get in there, you know, maybe the Supreme Court.
01:14:22.000And if this is going to point us in that direction, then I think that's as good as we can get from an executive order.
01:14:29.000Because unfortunately, the president just does not have that regulatory power to go in and say, well, you know, this private company isn't doing what I like, so they have to change it.
01:14:39.000It is a little bit more complicated than that.
01:14:41.000So, Under the circumstances, all that being considered, I think it's a great executive order.
01:14:47.000Like I said, if they're going to fix tech censorship, it's going to be with Section 230.
01:14:53.000That seems to me to be the best and maybe only viable path for the government to curb these abuses.
01:14:59.000And using that essentially as leverage, saying, look, you can either be a publisher and therefore you're going to get raped to death by lawsuits, or you can be a platform and leave the conservatives alone and you'll be allowed to function.
01:16:06.000I mean, maybe if we reclaim control of the House and keep the White House, I guess anything's possible in 2020, then maybe it'll become more realistic politically.
01:16:17.000But at least for now, I'm not really optimistic that there'll be legislation.
01:16:21.000I think our best bet is this executive order.
01:16:25.000Maybe we'll find out another way we could do this, or we could use the FTC to bludgeon these companies, or maybe this DOJ investigation that's coming up over the summer.
01:16:35.000And ultimately, if all else fails, maybe it'll just go through the courts.
01:16:39.000Maybe somebody will get a good lawsuit, a user, maybe the government.
01:16:50.000But I think, like I said, all things considered, this is about as good as it gets on social media.
01:16:55.000And hopefully, now that the president is pissed off, And not only pissed off, but his ass is on the line because it's an election year.
01:17:02.000And if he doesn't fix tech censorship, it's going to hurt him bad in the election.
01:17:06.000Hopefully, that is adding an incentive for the president to stay focused on this and keep his foot on the gas.
01:17:12.000Because the biggest problem is not so much the legislation could have passed, it's just that the president doesn't seem to think this is a priority.
01:17:21.000But this is definitely something that will bite him in the butt in November if it's not fixed now.
01:17:26.000Or at the very least, if there's not something done.
01:17:30.000To maybe in the interim through deterrence, get Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and all the others to change their behaviors.
01:17:38.000So hopefully, it'll at the bare minimum do that.
01:17:42.000It's good, it's directionally sound, it's on the money in terms of what we need to be talking about.
01:17:48.000The only problem is that in terms of enforcement, there's big questions as to whether or not this is going to have a huge impact.
01:17:55.000But hopefully, it'll be the first step towards.
01:18:00.000A law being passed by the Congress or some kind of decision made in the courts, or just gathering more information on this, maybe applying pressure in different ways, like I said, through the FTC, the FCC, the DOJ.
01:20:54.000Doctors have not ascertained why he died yet.
01:20:57.000So, we don't know if he died because he was choked or from something unrelated.
01:21:03.000It looks bad, don't get me wrong, but we just don't know a lot about the facts.
01:21:07.000At this point, that's really neither here nor there.
01:21:10.000People watched the video and they went out to protest.
01:21:14.000Tuesday night, and they went out to protest last night.
01:21:17.000And they've been protesting all day today and all night, I'm sure tonight.
01:21:22.000What happened last night is that, just like on Tuesday, the protest became violent and also turned into a lot of stealing and a lot of destruction.
01:21:33.000And I'll read you some reports about the violence.
01:22:42.000There was a drive by shooting at the police station.
01:22:45.000There were a number of buildings totally destroyed, including a target where they literally took everything off the shelves and then burned it down.
01:22:53.000And just a lot of stories like this, a lot of incidents like this.
01:22:59.000And, you know, we're going to talk about rioting and looting and all this in general.
01:23:03.000But needless to say, this has nothing to do with George Floyd.
01:23:07.000You know, and everybody's painting this.
01:23:09.000And I'm going to read a full, complete accounting for what happened last night.
01:23:13.000But before we dive into that, I think it stands to reason that when people talk about these riots and they say things about, People are angry or they're hurting or grieving, and a community is lashing out or something like that.
01:23:33.000There is nothing about the death of a black person in police custody that makes it right or justified or even logically proceeds into stealing electronic appliances from Target.
01:23:47.000Like, these things are completely unrelated.
01:23:49.000And that is how we have to start the conversation.
01:23:53.000That's how the conversation has to begin.
01:23:56.000That one has nothing to do with the other.
01:23:58.000If anything, George Floyd's death is a pretext for action, it is an excuse, it's a rationalization, but it's not the cause.
01:24:09.000And that has to be established because a lot of people come at it from that lens before the conversation even begins.
01:24:35.000It says this is a report about the violence yesterday.
01:24:40.000It says the second night of protests started much like the first, with peaceful demonstrations Wednesday afternoon at the Powder Horn neighborhood intersection where Floyd was pinned down by a police officer.
01:24:51.000Like Tuesday night, violence later broke out after protesters marched to the 3rd Precinct Police Station where they clashed with police in riot gear.
01:25:04.000Over the next several hours, looters ransacked, vandalized, and burned numerous buildings in the blocks around the 3rd Precinct.
01:25:12.000Video captured people running out of target in Cub Foods with their arms full of merchandise.
01:25:17.000Meanwhile, fires shot up at various businesses from a Wendy's to an Auto Zone, and some burned without fire crews there to battle the flames.
01:25:26.000One fire at an under construction apartment complex could be seen miles away.
01:25:30.000The blaze raised a plume of smoke over the Minneapolis skyline.
01:25:36.000The destruction stretched into the uptown neighborhood, about three miles from the 3rd precinct, where damage marked the Apple Store, Thurston Jewelers, and High Lake Liquors.
01:26:14.000What I hear from a lot of the protesters during these live streams and the videos, I saw one of these wiggers get in front of the camera monologuing, and they'll say things like, you know, they're not hearing our words.
01:26:33.000Well, you know, when I think about rage, when I think about anger, when I think about frustration, I think about it as sort of uncontrolled, directionless, indiscriminate.
01:26:44.000You know, when you're trying to send a message to the government, you know, maybe you'd think that you'd burn down government buildings or government property or whatever.
01:26:55.000But what do they loot and destroy here?
01:29:27.000The fire department reported 30 fire events last night.
01:29:32.000And then in St. Paul, in the last 24 hours, you've had five buildings that have been looted and 12 buildings that have reported property damage.
01:29:39.000So this was just a giant riot, just total mayhem, total destruction, stealing, shooting, fighting, you know, destruction, graffiti, vandalism, all the rest.
01:30:12.000Jacob Fry said the protests stemmed from built up anger and sadness ingrained in our black community, not just because of five minutes of horror, but 400 years.
01:30:24.000And In case the subtlety or the implication is lost on you, he's talking about slavery.
01:30:32.000He is saying that the protests stem from built up anger and sadness ingrained in our community, not just because of the video, but also because of slavery.
01:33:20.000Everyone often trots it out as though it is that blacks can commit crimes, that blacks can generally behave in a way that is not acceptable in a civilized country, and we're okay with that because of slavery, because of historic wrongdoing or historic disadvantage.
01:33:39.000But I've got a newsflash for you every human being alive, every human being alive descends from somebody who is the victim of historical wrongdoing, and that shouldn't be hard to understand.
01:33:55.000You could trace your lineage back in your own country under the domination of another country, and you can find historical wrongdoing, systemic historical wrongdoing.
01:34:10.000When you look at Irish and Italians that were discriminated against in their country, are they carrying on talking about, well, you know, when we first got here, they said Irish need not apply?
01:34:21.000If you said that today, you'd get laughed out of any room.
01:34:25.000You know, any job interview or welfare office or college admissions office, everybody else, there is a standard, there is a bar.
01:34:34.000And when it comes to blacks, because of slavery, which was wrong, don't get me wrong, chattel slavery was wrong and did set them back as a people, but slavery's been over for 170 years.
01:34:47.000And Jim Crow has been over for 60 years.
01:34:50.000And other groups that have been discriminated against or set back or whatever, they have survived and thrived in spite of it.
01:35:04.000And I look at what's going on in Minneapolis, and it's not much different from what happened in Ferguson, or what happened in Baltimore, or what happens in Chicago every day, or what happened in Detroit, or what happened in St. Louis, and what's been going on in this country for 60 years.
01:35:22.000And the more that I think about it, it's not much different from what happens in Haiti, and what happens in Nigeria, and what happens in Somalia, and Africa, and Jamaica, and everywhere else.
01:35:33.000And when are people going to start to see the pattern here?
01:35:37.000The pattern is not democratic policies or the Democratic Party.
01:35:42.000The pattern is not socialism or left wing economics.
01:35:46.000The pattern is not oppression or discrimination.
01:35:49.000And it certainly isn't racism or white supremacy.
01:35:52.000It's people that either can't or refuse to behave in a way that lives up to a civilized society.
01:36:36.000Let's stop pretending it's anything other than that.
01:36:39.000People that loot should be put in jail or killed.
01:36:43.000There should have been tanks yesterday.
01:36:45.000There should have been helicopters and National Guard.
01:36:48.000We let this go on because they are black.
01:36:51.000And let's not pretend that it's not that way.
01:36:54.000And people committing crimes are responsible.
01:36:58.000And it's like that for everybody else.
01:37:01.000If I go into Target tomorrow and I start smashing cash registers, I go to an ATM and try and blow it up, and I get arrested and I tell the cops, well, I'm really upset about Pope Francis.
01:37:16.000You think they're going to let me off?
01:37:17.000You think that that's going to be okay?
01:37:20.000Or am I going to go to jail and have to pay a fine and all the rest?
01:38:26.000And you put your money where your mouth is.
01:38:29.000And the grand irony of it all is they will go out and commit crimes.
01:38:34.000When they get arrested, they resist arrest.
01:38:37.000When they get shot, then they burn the city down.
01:38:39.000And then when the city's burnt down and the white tax body flees and the businesses don't open up new businesses, then they claim that it's racism, which is why their communities are devastated.
01:38:52.000They claim that it's racism why their fathers are locked up in jail.
01:38:56.000They'll claim it's racism why the education system sucks.
01:39:01.000In these cities, it's white people's fault, in other words.
01:39:04.000They commit the crimes, they destroy the town, they resist arrest, and then they blame it on us.
01:41:12.000You know, maybe I'm the most racist, craziest person in the world, but somehow I find it hard to believe that all the looters and rioters and everybody that was on stream and on camera last night talking about we built this, somehow I don't believe they're going to be building Wendy's and U.S. Bank and housing anytime soon.
01:41:33.000I don't think they're going to be the architects of it.
01:41:35.000I don't think they're going to be the investors of it.
01:41:37.000I don't think they're going to be laying the bricks.
01:41:45.000We cannot even describe the problem anymore.
01:41:49.000And again, you know, and I know it's beating a dead horse.
01:41:52.000It's not every black person, da I'm kind of getting tired of saying that because you've got people in this country, maybe most of the people in this country, that believe that it's a bigger problem that a white person might call the cops on a black person who didn't deserve it than it is that blacks will destroy a city every other year.
01:42:55.000Because it's not right and it's not fair and it's embarrassing.
01:42:59.000It's not right to the people in these neighborhoods that are not committing crimes and it's embarrassing for all of us that live in this country.
01:43:06.000And you imagine what the world is thinking when they see Minneapolis in flames.
01:45:20.000Thinking about who the rioters are, thinking about what their motivations and intentions are, what would you put on a sign to dissuade them from destroying your store?
01:45:29.000Because all the signs yesterday said black owned business.
01:49:12.000And so, this is a documentary that covers the decolonization of Africa in the 60s.
01:49:17.000And there was actually a distinct moment, like a day, when the last Europeans left these countries, when the remaining European governors got on their ships and they left their African colonies never to return.
01:49:32.000And they turned over the country to Africans.
01:49:35.000And you should watch this documentary.
01:49:37.000Do you know what happened immediately after they left?
01:49:40.000You know what happened immediately after the last European colonists got on their boat and set sail back towards Europe?
01:49:49.000Riots, looting, destroying goods, destroying produce, destroying imported goods from other African colonies that were not yet liberated.
01:49:58.000Killings, they started maiming animals, they went into properties and destroyed them.
01:50:03.000Arson, riots everywhere, riot police having to be trained.
01:50:09.000I see some similarities, you know, in a very similar way.
01:50:18.000And I'm not saying anything more, but like you either are an idiot and you have no ability to recognize patterns, or you are so brainwashed and so controlled that you're beyond helping if you don't get it at this point.
01:52:04.000There's burglaries happening all the time.
01:52:07.000Businesses don't go into these neighborhoods because of the people in these neighborhoods.
01:52:11.000A bank will not open up a chapter inside of a neighborhood where there's riots or there's gang activity or where they're going to be stolen from.
01:52:22.000So, you know, why is it that in some neighborhoods, You know, there's not like a grocery store, there's not a bank, or they don't have access to the same services.
01:52:31.000Well, it's because they're not behaving.
01:52:36.000You know, a constant refrain that we hear from black civil rights activists is that they can't get ahead because of discriminatory lending practices and other forms of discrimination by businesses.
01:52:47.000They say that they live in food ghettos, food ghettos.
01:52:51.000They're unhealthy and they make bad decisions because they're not eating nutritious food, and they're not eating nutritious food because there's not whole foods there, and there's not whole foods there because of racism.
01:53:51.000Gee, maybe it's because so many of them are in jail because they commit crimes.
01:53:56.000So are you starting to see a pattern here?
01:53:59.000We are led to believe that the most pervasive problem in our country, the most salient problem, maybe the worst problem, is racism, and white racism in particular, white supremacy.
01:54:59.000And we're given one side of the story.
01:55:01.000Well, all these white people, man, they are just constantly, they think we're up to no good all the time and they don't trust us and blah, blah, blah.
01:55:11.000They're calling 911 on us for no reason, for no reason.
01:55:17.000I saw a video today, unrelated, of a black guy robbing a convenience store and he tied up the clerk behind the cash register, poured lighter fluid on her, and then set her on fire.
01:55:28.000Tied her up with duct tape and then set her on fire and then left with $700 in his pocket.
01:55:32.000I can't, man, why do people feel threatened?
01:56:00.000And by the way, this is what the whole country will be like.
01:56:04.000This is what the whole country will be like.
01:56:07.000You know, and I want you to think long and hard of what it would be like if your neighborhood looked like Minneapolis.
01:56:15.000You know, maybe it wasn't your business that got started on fire, but what if you lived in that neighborhood where the next day, yeah.
01:56:21.00050 buildings are damaged and six are destroyed, and there's total civil disorder and there's gunshots and everything.
01:56:29.000And you're going to have to think long and hard because that may be in your future what you want to do about it now, you know.
01:56:36.000Because there is an outcome where every neighborhood is like this.
01:56:39.000Virtually every neighborhood that isn't, you know, in the millionaires district, that every neighborhood is like this.
01:56:46.000There is a bleak future where every safe, stable, prosperous neighborhood looks like this.
01:56:54.000There is no refuge, there's no escape, there's nowhere nice that you can go to, there's nowhere that's clean, there's nowhere that's orderly.
01:57:49.000And we have to do it, and it might not be easy, and it might not be popular, and it may actually be very hard and require a lot of sacrifice.
01:57:56.000But I think we could all agree that it is worth it.
01:57:59.000And when you see what happened last night, you understand that it is worth it to make your neighborhood stay the way it is and not look like that.
01:58:07.000And I'm not saying anything more than I am other than we need to protect our people.
02:01:53.000And they put up the black signs in there because they're trying to target white businesses.
02:01:58.000And, you know, they want to lynch this cop.
02:02:00.000If it wasn't for the police officers outside the cop's home, they would have lynched that guy.
02:02:04.000And this is the country that we're creating for ourselves a country full of people who hate us, who will be in power.
02:02:10.000There will be no due process, there will be no laws.
02:02:13.000If you get caught saying the wrong thing, doing the wrong thing, you're in a wrong video, they will come to your house, they will drag you and your family out, and they will kill you.
02:02:21.000And they will burn your house down, and they will kill your family, and they'll destroy your business, and they'll destroy the whole neighborhood.
02:02:28.000That is what would have happened without the police.
02:02:34.000Because the only reason that that first part didn't happen is because there was an army of police outside the cop's house.
02:02:40.000The only reason they didn't go inside the guy who killed or apprehended George Floyd, the only reason that they didn't bust down his front door, take him out, and kill him and his kids and his wife and burn his house down is because there were more police than rioters.
02:02:57.000And what happens when that's not the case?
02:02:59.000What happens when there's more rioters than police?
02:03:03.000There's going to be a scenario in this decade when a police officer kills a black kid, just like this, and he gets murdered by a black mob.
02:03:13.000That's going to happen probably in this decade.
02:03:15.000And what is that going to say about our country?
02:04:14.000These are not, maybe some of them were, I don't know, but these largely were not criminals.
02:04:18.000These are just people that came out, took advantage of the situation, and stole stuff from Target.
02:04:24.000If there's no police enforcing the law, and if everybody else is doing it, the law is being broken.
02:04:30.000How do you have a constitutional republic, self governing, Bill of Rights?
02:04:34.000How do you have that when that's the population?
02:04:38.000We're going to live in a country where everything has to be bolted down, gated shut, you know, metal barriers on everything, security guards, metal detectors.
02:05:39.000I don't actually care about whether or not some black guy with a sociology degree from some state school, some professional activist from BuzzFeed, that's very.
02:05:55.000According to my black studies degree, I find that that is offensive and I don't really give a shit, okay?
02:08:43.000Look at all these future Trump supporters.
02:08:46.000He should have gone to that target and, you know, while people are on their way out the door with their hands full, he should have registered them to vote.
02:08:52.000Will you be voting for Donald Trump in 2020?
02:08:54.000He should have been standing out there at the sign talking about how Democrats favor illegals over blacks.
02:09:01.000That would have gone over really well.
02:13:05.000I mean, these, like, well, you're a hypocrite.
02:13:07.000Like, these arguments are valuable, I guess, to discredit the opposition, but it's like.
02:13:14.000They shouldn't be able to bake the cake, and we should be able to post a tweet.
02:13:19.000Like, no, no cake baking, but you are going to publish my fucking tweet.
02:13:24.000The real red pill is it's like you shouldn't be consistent on these things because one is in your interest and what is not.
02:13:30.000And you should get what you want and not what you don't, you know?
02:13:33.000Some people are like, well, okay, well, if I have to bake the cake, then I get to post a tweet.
02:13:40.000Or it's like, you know, well, if I can't.
02:13:45.000If you're not going to bake the cake, then you can't post a tweet because, you know, well, if you're not going to do the thing I want, then you're not going to do the thing that you want.
02:15:32.000Samuels says pretty amazing how that's the guy from before, right?
02:15:36.000Pretty amazing how you have these literal retards on Twitter talking about how looting and ransacking one target is going to end international capitalism.
02:15:45.000The only thing that that's doing is depriving normal people of their livelihood in the midst of an economic crisis.
02:15:53.000I don't know if they're stupid or if they're like.
02:15:56.000You know, controlled opposition, but the alt right does this all the time.
02:16:02.000Yesterday, the alt right, all their tweets are saying, like, this is good because the banks are evil and Target is a multinational corporation.
02:16:58.000Well, they're burning down a Target revolt against the modern world.
02:17:01.000Yeah, revolt against the modern world because.
02:17:04.000Tomorrow, as opposed to having a target where you could buy things and have a job, now you'll just have a burnt down building and you'll have to drive to a different target.
02:17:17.000Like, do they think that when the target gets destroyed, a cathedral will be built in its place?
02:18:10.000They also say, like, one struggle with the black looters.
02:18:13.000As though the black looters wouldn't kill any of these white racists on site if they saw them.
02:18:20.000Eric Stryker and all these characters are like, this is awesome, one struggle, the black looters and us are together because we both hate capitalism.
02:18:30.000It's like, first of all, they didn't burn down McDonald's because they ideologically agree with you.
02:18:36.000They are looting because they want stuff and they're burning because they think it's cool.
02:18:42.000And secondly, this one struggle thing is totally cucked because.
02:18:46.000You're the one that desperately wants this.
02:18:49.000A Wignat trying to make an appeal to like militant blacks is no different than a liberal white that desperately wants to be liked by the black guy in his office.
02:19:00.000You know how like liberal white guys, it's like, I want black people to think I'm cool, I want them to like me.
02:19:06.000It's no different from all these Wignats that are like, see, us and the Hotaps, or us and these guys, us and the Nation of Islam, they're actually cool, right?
02:21:42.000I think that there's too much talk and not enough action.
02:21:45.000We need to be men of action, he said on Twitter.com, doing nothing.
02:21:48.000And I'm not trying to goad people into doing that.
02:21:51.000I'm just trying to illustrate that whenever people talk like that, It just goes to show that they're either LARPing or they're trying to get you in trouble.
02:22:43.000So they're either a LARP or they're either like a teenager that sees themselves as like, you know, like a fighter or, you know, some kind of a video game character, like a movie character.
02:22:54.000Or you've got feds that are trying to get you in trouble, that are trying to entrap you.
02:22:58.000Hey, you know, alienated white guy, you got to prove yourself to us.
02:25:25.000Matthew says it's a 45 minute drive from my town to Minneapolis.
02:25:29.000Knowing that people think justice is burning the city to the ground and looting the ruins is the right response, then someone needs to talk some sense into the state and local governments and tell them that mass riots are not to be tolerated just because the victim was black and the officer was white.
02:26:02.000Yamato says, Do you think big cities being giant blue zits in the seas of red has more to do with the higher concentration of minorities in big cities, or do you think it's simply the nature of big cities to be more susceptible to pause and shitlibery?
02:32:14.000Anand says Order will be restored or let it burn, Nick.
02:32:18.000Also wrong for laughing at that grandma getting hosed with the fire extinguisher of like a Looney Tunes character using a jug of water with a hand pump.
02:35:19.000Anon says, the next time you were in a large crowd at a downtown pop concert or metro station, look around and imagine how many people on the street, if the lights went out and the cops disappeared, would be pulling the gold fillings out of the teeth in your body.
02:35:32.000You have a lot of gold fillings in your teeth?
02:35:36.000Yamato says, the degree to which people make excuses for this kind of savage and barbaric behavior makes it very difficult to resist going wignap mode.
02:36:09.000Am First Investments says Neighbors of Cop had no idea that the killer was a cop.
02:36:15.000Cop and Lloyd worked together, knew each other, seeing multiple videos of clear federal agent in all black with black umbrella and gas mask.
02:37:44.000Yamada says, Albhype made a video revealing the truth about MLK.
02:37:47.000And at the end of the video, he basically said that the only reason excuses are made for these people is because of the historical oppression narrative.
02:37:55.000Without that narrative, people just by default see them as shitty people.
02:38:08.000Am First Investments says, Update It's been revealed that Jacob Penderson of St. Paul PD was the culprit responsible for starting the riot in South Minneapolis.
02:38:17.000He was captured on camera and ID by his ex wife.
02:38:57.000George Lopez says most Hispanics descend from modern indentured servitude, yet they don't touch black crime rates or economic and cultural disparity.
02:39:06.000That's because they have an axe to grind against whites, too.
02:39:10.000Holy Servant says today's show was amazing.
02:40:51.000And the other thing is that when you're talking about the relationship between Jews and Europeans, you're talking about the relationship between Christian Europeans and Jews in Europe, rabbinical Jews or Talmudic Jews.
02:41:05.000And there's a big difference between the Hebrews and Israel of the Bible and the modern day Jews.
02:41:11.000The modern day Jews are defined by their rejection of Jesus Christ.
02:41:15.000If you were a biblical Jew, you became a Christian.
02:41:18.000The New Testament, the new covenant that God made with his people was.
02:41:21.000Now, you're supposed to believe in Jesus Christ.
02:41:23.000He sent the Savior, He sent the Messiah.
02:41:26.000So, the persistent Jews are the ones that rejected Him.
02:41:29.000And so, their holy book is not the Bible, it is the Torah, but it's also an oral tradition and a law.
02:41:36.000It's the Talmud, it's the Halakha, or Halakha I don't know how they say it, but it's the Talmud, it's the Torah, you know, it's other books, and it's anti Christian fundamentally.
02:41:48.000And the context of, you know, this sort of adversarial relationship between Jews and Christians throughout the past two millennia is.
02:41:56.000Is his Jews against European Christians.
02:41:59.000So it's almost like a paradoxical thing to say, self defeating.
02:42:03.000Number one, Jesus was the Son of God, so any argument to the contrary is ridiculous.
02:42:10.000But then number two, we have to distinguish the biblical Israelites from modern day rabbinical or Talmudic Jews.
02:42:16.000And then lastly, Wignatz, when they're talking about these historical problems, they're talking about antagonisms against Christians or a bad relationship with Christians.
02:43:40.000Says Trump got a higher percentage of the Muslim vote than the black vote, even though he literally talked about banning them from entering the country.
02:43:47.000It's unbelievable how uniquely unmalleable they are.
02:43:51.000That's a very good point and a good way to say it.
02:43:54.000Freak says, such a good episode tonight, Nick.
02:44:46.000So if you're going to put stuff in there that's violating the rules, you're going to get muted.
02:44:53.000And I have to do that or else they're going to take me off the platform.
02:44:56.000So Anand says LMFAO Black Twitter is posting literally four white people they scrounge footage of walking out of the target looting to BTFO the theory that it was only black people looting.
02:54:56.000They're allegedly accelerationists that are trying to accelerate the collapse and they're trying to capitalize on, like, what, destabilizing events in the country.