America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Nick Fuentes on The Conservative Values Zoom Call (Part 1)

00:00:00.000 How would a dolphin consent?

00:00:21.000 I don't know, I mean, I guess in theory, like, all, you know, everything that goes on in the animal kingdom was not a whole lot of consensual stuff, you know what I mean?

00:00:30.000 So he doesn't really take the dolphin's consent, you just do it.

00:00:34.000 It's the law of the jungle, so to speak, so I think it's kind of anything goes.

00:00:38.000 So could a dolphin rape a human, but a human not rape a dolphin?

00:00:41.000 Uh, yeah, yeah, I think that's about right, yeah. 0.89

00:00:45.000 I can see that.

00:00:46.000 They made a high pass on TikTok and said we got bodied by them and they had some steep views.

00:00:50.000 Yeah, after our debate last night, they made the dolphin high pass.

00:00:54.000 They literally asked on a moral basis, not a moral question.

00:00:59.000 Lily, your sign is backwards.

00:01:06.000 Why don't you like Nick?

00:01:07.000 Yeah, alright, based.

00:01:10.000 Alright, Nick is a good man.

00:01:12.000 Alright, epic.

00:01:15.000 Okay, so Nick, I do want to ask you about a couple of things.

00:01:25.000 Because I feel like I know that you're probably more right than I am.

00:01:29.000 Not probably, I've seen you talk before, so I know you're more further right than I am.

00:01:34.000 Have you ever taken the political compass test?

00:01:36.000 I have, yeah, yeah, I have.

00:01:38.000 Where did you land with that?

00:01:40.000 I actually landed in the top left quadrant.

00:01:44.000 Moderately, like slightly to the left and moderately towards authoritarian.

00:01:51.000 Interesting, yeah, so I, because I fall, I fall very, very barely authoritarian right in my, like, beliefs myself.

00:01:59.000 But, like, I know that, like, you push a lot of, like, America First policies, you know?

00:02:03.000 And so, like, I know I'm a big American First supporter myself.

00:02:07.000 So, like, personally speaking, what do you consider too far when it comes to American First policies?

00:02:15.000 Um...

00:02:16.000 That's a good question.

00:02:17.000 You know, it's kind of tough to say because things have gone so far in the wrong direction that, you know, probably radical reform is required.

00:02:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:02:26.000 Like, it's hard for me to think of, like, excess on the right.

00:02:29.000 It's hard for me to even think of excess on the right when we have so much excess to the left in terms of...

00:02:35.000 Like, you know, child drag queens and story hour and, you know, free trade and, you know, two Middle East wars at the same time and this bailout that just happened for Wall Street because of the coronavirus.

00:02:48.000 Like, it's hard to even imagine how far it'd be too far.

00:02:51.000 I mean, I'm obviously not like, you know, in favor of like murder, you know, like the state, like mass violence by the state.

00:02:58.000 I think we could all agree that would be too far.

00:03:01.000 So, I know you were talking about the bailout.

00:03:04.000 I'm assuming you disagree with the bailout that we just did for coronavirus?

00:03:27.000 Well, it's not that I disagree with that.

00:03:29.000 I believe that it was required, like a big stimulus was required, but I think, excuse me, that the proportionality of it was wrong in the sense that they probably should have given a lot more money for small business loans and for cash payments and less money to bail out

00:03:47.000 Like airlines and the hotels.

00:03:49.000 I think that you need stimulus for both parts of the economy.

00:03:53.000 You need to stimulate like Wall Street and the big industries and you also do stimulate the people but I thought that the priorities were totally lopsided Yeah, so like I and this is like a theory of my own because I personally think that we should have had less less cash in the hands of Americans and more money to be spent towards instead of just having them still paying their bills

00:04:15.000 How about the American government say, hell, I mean, just let's go ahead and put a halt on all your bills. 0.98

00:04:21.000 We'll pay these companies off for their losses.

00:04:23.000 Put a halt on your bills.

00:04:24.000 And so instead of just handing out cash and maybe running into a situation where I know I've heard of Americans just spending it on whatever, TVs and crap, I mean, how about we save ourselves that trouble and just pay the companies themselves?

00:04:37.000 And, you know, because if they don't have the bills to pay, then they don't have to worry about the money situation.

00:04:43.000 Well, the problem for a lot of people is that they're in a no or a low income situation where it's not so much that the bills are too much, but there's just no money coming in, right?

00:04:52.000 I mean, the money going out is a problem, but there's no money coming in.

00:04:55.000 So I think that in addition to helping people, relieving their burden with bills, I think the stimulus also stimulates demand in the economy in the sense that, you know, people are probably going to take their checks and spend it on frivolous things.

00:05:09.000 But that is a good thing because when there's more spending, then that means that the economy is going.

00:05:14.000 And I'm not typically like a big Keynesian, like a big demand side guy.

00:05:18.000 But, you know, in this context, obviously demand is totally artificially suppressed by these restrictions on people shopping and eating out and, you know, the shelter in place.

00:05:29.000 So I think that it's probably a much better approach just give people the cash.

00:05:32.000 That they have bills to pay, they can pay them.

00:05:35.000 If not, then at least they're spending money.

00:05:37.000 And that is just another form of stimulus.

00:05:39.000 That's just like another monetary injection, which to me is a lot better than doing an injection the other way, which is having the Federal Reserve buy stuff or, you know, giving it to Wall Street, because Wall Street is just squandering it.

00:05:53.000 They're squandering it on stock buybacks and, you know, other ridiculous things.

00:05:56.000 So I think it's just better to give people the cash.

00:05:59.000 Okay, yeah, that's an interesting concept because I know I've talked about, you know, the coronavirus stimulus package and the reaction of the American government to the coronavirus and all that.

00:06:08.000 Actually, like, very frequently, you know, even going back to like

00:06:11.000 Trump's response in general to, you know, travel bans, stuff like that, associated with it.

00:06:16.000 So I definitely would ask you about that. 0.98

00:06:18.000 Oh, crap. 0.75

00:06:19.000 Spotlighted me over there. 0.98

00:06:22.000 Yeah, someone said that we look similar.

00:06:24.000 Do you think that we look similar, Nick?

00:06:26.000 The green screen.

00:06:27.000 It's the green screen!

00:06:28.000 I think there's a little bit of similarity.

00:06:30.000 A little bit of similarity.

00:06:31.000 I feel like if I had the button-up shirt, I think we could, like, maybe pass off as brothers.

00:06:35.000 Your hair has a little bit more volume.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, okay, yeah.

00:06:38.000 A little bit more lush.

00:06:40.000 Everybody calm down there.

00:06:43.000 It looks the same.

00:06:45.000 So I didn't want to address that, but no, so what is your proposed solution, I guess, for our immigration reform?

00:06:55.000 Because I mean, obviously it needs to happen.

00:06:57.000 We all know that.

00:06:58.000 That was a pivotal point in the 2016 election.

00:07:01.000 So what do we say we do about undocumented in the country and border security?

00:07:08.000 Well, I think that that is one part of the equation, which a lot of Republicans are in agreement with.

00:07:14.000 In other words, the border security and illegal immigrant question, which I think very simply, we should build a physical barrier. 0.64

00:07:21.000 We should implement mandatory e-verify, which is a huge part of it.

00:07:26.000 And we should strive to deport or get rid of most or all illegal immigrants in the country. 1.00

00:07:31.000 And the reason why I need a border wall, obviously, is

00:07:34.000 Prevent new entries. 0.84

00:07:36.000 And it's just ridiculous, obviously.

00:07:38.000 The past year has gotten better, but last year was a nightmare at the border.

00:07:42.000 But build a physical structure to keep people from coming in.

00:07:45.000 But mandatory, you verify what that does is it makes it so that illegal immigrants can't get jobs.

00:07:51.000 And if they can't get jobs, a lot of them will go back.

00:07:54.000 You know, the primary, they're economic migrants is what they are.

00:07:57.000 They're not refugees or asylum seekers.

00:07:59.000 They're coming here for money and for jobs and largely for remittances.

00:08:02.000 You know, some people will come here.

00:08:04.000 Make money, send it back to their family back home.

00:08:07.000 A lot of people come here for work and then leave and go back to Mexico for a little while.

00:08:11.000 They call that being an ampersand.

00:08:13.000 But if the jobs dry up and the money dries up, a lot of them will just leave themselves.

00:08:17.000 So in a lot of cases, you don't even need to deport many because they will just flee if you cut off the benefits and if you cut off the jobs.

00:08:25.000 But that's strictly border security.

00:08:27.000 I think that the bigger question, and the more controversial one, is legal immigration.

00:08:32.000 Everybody seems to do this refrain, which is, no illegal immigration, but legal immigration is fine.

00:08:39.000 They have to come here legally. 0.99

00:08:41.000 We're going to have a big, beautiful door, but they've got to come legally.

00:08:44.000 I don't think they should come legally either.

00:08:46.000 I think they should not come at all.

00:08:47.000 We've had too many for too long and so I think we should have a complete immigration moratorium indefinitely. 1.00

00:08:53.000 No immigration indefinitely until... Is this for population control or is it for something else?

00:09:00.000 Well, it's because immigration is a tremendously destabilizing force. 1.00

00:09:06.000 Immigration is something that historically in the country comes in waves, and it subsides, obviously.

00:09:11.000 You get a big wave of immigration, for example, of Germans coming in in the early 19th century, and then it stopped for a long time.

00:09:20.000 You had a big wave in the early 20th century, and then it stopped.

00:09:23.000 It was nearly zero during the Great Depression.

00:09:26.000 We've had since 1965 is a wave that never stops.

00:09:30.000 It just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

00:09:32.000 And it starts in 1965.

00:09:34.000 And every year we have more immigrants than the last. 1.00

00:09:37.000 And now we're taking in more than a million immigrants a year.

00:09:39.000 And so the problem with that is it rips apart the social fabric.

00:09:43.000 It changes the culture.

00:09:45.000 It is hurting American workers because you increase the labor pool and it decreases wages.

00:09:50.000 And so it has so many bad effects when you scale it this big that we have to stop it and kind of survey the damage and see how we're going to put the country back together.

00:09:59.000 Cause I think it's going to cause a lot of big problems in the future if it's not causing problems already.

00:10:04.000 So, and I'm just like basing this off of what you said in that statement is like with the, um, with like the negative that you, you know, had said with it is the culture, the culture aspect.

00:10:18.000 Do you not,

00:10:20.000 No, I think that...

00:10:26.000 A country has to be cohesive and orderly and stable, and what is critical to that is some degree of consensus on culture, which is to say, you know, what god you worship, your politics, your language, even little things like mannerisms, customs, things you might not even think about, like sense of humor or your perception on the role of women or the role of government.

00:10:49.000 Like, culture is very complex and

00:10:52.000 We're good to go!

00:11:15.000 One side wins, one side loses, and the people that win decide what the country looks like.

00:11:19.000 And so you bring in, in short, you bring in lots of people of a different culture, and pretty soon America's culture will change.

00:11:26.000 And our culture will diminish, and their culture will expand, and pretty soon we'll be looking at a country that's unrecognizable. 0.96

00:11:33.000 Generally, the culture that's coming here is not only different, which is, I think, a good enough reason alone to keep it out, but it's worse. 0.99

00:11:40.000 It's often worse, too.

00:11:41.000 It'd be one thing, you know, if Europeans went into Africa, maybe they'd make the culture better, actually. 0.90

00:11:47.000 But when Africans come here, they're making the culture worse. 1.00

00:11:49.000 So it's not, I mean, it would be one thing to say, 0.91

00:11:52.000 And I think this is sufficient.

00:11:53.000 We want to protect our way of life no matter what, but not only are they coming here and changing it and altering it and making it foreign and different, but they're doing it so such that it's worse. 0.98

00:12:02.000 And so that's really the problem.

00:12:04.000 So can I, can I, can I make one thing clear here real quick?

00:12:07.000 Uh, this isn't based upon race, correct?

00:12:09.000 The whole ad, like the Africa statement, is it, it's not based on race.

00:12:12.000 It's based upon like the third worldness of these, of these countries and them getting used to acclimated to, 0.97

00:12:18.000 You know, as having a more civilized nation in America.

00:12:21.000 You're saying that, correct?

00:12:22.000 Not race.

00:12:23.000 Well, race definitely plays a factor.

00:12:26.000 And a lot of people don't like to say that and it makes them uncomfortable.

00:12:30.000 And I wouldn't describe myself as a racist or anything like that or a hater of other people or a supremacist.

00:12:36.000 But we just have to be adults and we have to be mature and say that whether we like it or not, tribalism is real among people.

00:12:44.000 Whether we like it or not,

00:12:46.000 People do have racial identity.

00:12:48.000 You know, the people that are coming here from Mexico, what is their advocacy group called in the United States?

00:12:54.000 It's called La Raza.

00:12:55.000 Have you ever heard of La Raza?

00:12:57.000 La Raza means the race. 0.99

00:12:59.000 And when they're talking about the Mexican conquest of Arizona and California, and they're talking about Aslan, is what they call it, the Mexican reconquest of the Southwest, which a lot of political activists say that America stole from them in the 19th century.

00:13:13.000 This is a racial lens that they're interpreting this demographic change.

00:13:17.000 And this is true, I think, for all racial groups.

00:13:19.000 I think that there are meaningful differences between groups.

00:13:23.000 I think they manifest in culture.

00:13:25.000 And I don't think America would be the same if America was racially different. 0.92

00:13:29.000 I think you change the racial composition of the country and you change what the country looks like. 0.97

00:13:34.000 You change the culture of the country.

00:13:36.000 I don't think that you can make America a non-white country and it will continue to look like a white country. 1.00

00:13:42.000 And not just in skin color, but in all the cultural expressions of a culture.

00:13:48.000 You know, that's fine.

00:13:50.000 Africa can be Africa, and Latin America can be Latin America, but I think Europe must be Europe, and America must be America.

00:13:56.000 I think everybody is entitled to their homeland.

00:13:58.000 So, would you take... Yeah, go ahead, Cam.

00:14:00.000 Go ahead, Cam.

00:14:00.000 I'm sorry, I've been talking a lot.

00:14:01.000 I'm sorry.

00:14:02.000 Would you say that you would want to take action to try to, like, if you could call the shots, would you try to take action to, like, prevent the difference of culture that currently exists in the country, or just stop it from coming in?

00:14:15.000 Well, first we have to stop it from coming in, and then we have to figure out what to do.

00:14:19.000 And I know that sounds maybe like a cop-out, but the thing is, is that there's really no easy answers.

00:14:25.000 We're going to live in a multiracial country, and multiracial means that there is no dominant or majority race.

00:14:31.000 You know, white people cease to be a majority, and they will cease to be the dominant race in the country, culturally, politically, otherwise. 0.58

00:14:38.000 And so we will become, meaningfully, a multiracial country. 0.94

00:14:41.000 And that's going to happen no matter what, because of the birth rates and the fertility rates and everything.

00:14:46.000 So we're going to have to figure out, how are we going to get along as a multiracial country?

00:14:51.000 How do we govern a multiracial country? 0.96

00:14:53.000 And I think a lot of that is a question mark.

00:14:55.000 I think a lot of that remains to be written and remains to be seen how that's going to go.

00:15:00.000 But before we can figure out, okay, it's multiracial, it's maybe 50% white and

00:15:05.000 You know, 30% Hispanic and 15% Black, whatever the composition is going to be, we have to figure out how are we going to make it such that, because my big concern is all this anti-white stuff. 0.78

00:15:15.000 When we transition to a multiracial country, and Democrats run the show, and it's this electorate, you know, the Democrats' constituency is Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians, largely, virtually no white people, and an ever-shrinking minority.

00:15:29.000 When this new coalition is governing the country, how are they going to treat the white people?

00:15:32.000 Are they going to be nice to us?

00:15:34.000 Are they going to, like,

00:15:35.000 Because the way it's going now, I'm not really optimistic about our place.

00:15:40.000 Anti-white media stuff, anti-white commercials, anti-white history books.

00:15:44.000 And when we're going to be a minority, how is that going to translate into policy?

00:15:48.000 So, if we're going to live in a multiracial, fine.

00:15:52.000 But let's make it truly equal.

00:15:53.000 If that's how it's going to be, then everybody should be equal and everybody should be respected and everybody should have their own culture, their own thing, whatever.

00:16:01.000 But that's sort of my concern.

00:16:02.000 But that, I think, is something we'll have to determine once we shut down all the people pouring in.

00:16:07.000 So actually, we have Lance in here from the Republican High Pass.

00:16:17.000 I just wanted to hear what's going on right now.

00:16:19.000 I don't want to ask a question right now.

00:16:23.000 Okay, all right, let's let's you know, that's in trouble.

00:16:25.000 Yeah.

00:16:26.000 Yeah, I Nick I I guess I didn't I guess do a proper introduction for everybody.

00:16:30.000 So yeah, everybody who's unmuted right now is a either a member of the conservative hype house or a member of the liberal hype house and well, we usually do these zooms like pretty nightly we've been doing it for a while now and You know just to come on here and debate answer questions different things like that.

00:16:48.000 So I think

00:16:49.000 Is with good opportunity for us to be able to come on here and talk and ask questions and everything.

00:16:54.000 But to your point though with the thing, now I'm trying not to change the subject here, with the culture.

00:17:01.000 So when you're talking about making things equal, are you referring to groups say like Black Lives Matter?

00:17:12.000 Would you say that you wouldn't want groups like that arising or trying to push for rights?

00:17:20.000 Are you not okay with that?

00:17:23.000 Well, I think you have to look at it, how is it materialized in our country today?

00:17:30.000 You have these advocacy groups.

00:17:32.000 You have policies that are designed to benefit certain groups at the expense of others.

00:17:36.000 Affirmative Action, you have the NAACP, you have CARE, the American Islamic Relations thing.

00:17:43.000 You've got all these advocacy organizations and policies and programs directed at elevating non-whites. 1.00

00:17:51.000 And to me, it's like you can either have that be what multiracialism looks like,

00:17:56.000 And in that case, then should white people not get an advocacy group?

00:17:59.000 You know, if that's the way it's going to be, and everybody's fighting for their own and their own tribe, and it's just kind of like this sort of ethnic democracy, they have something like this in Ethiopia.

00:18:09.000 If that's the way it's going to be, then white people should be able to play too. 0.84

00:18:13.000 Because the way it is now, what Republicans say is that, well, identity politics is wrong, but it only seems to be wrong when white people do it.

00:18:20.000 Because we can have black leadership summits, we can have Hispanic leadership summits, and

00:18:24.000 You know, all that's fine. 0.91

00:18:25.000 We can target the black vote and talk about black unemployment, but God forbid you talk about how white people are doing. 0.99

00:18:30.000 You know, that's, that's, you know, white identitarians are just as bad as the left. 0.99

00:18:34.000 So I think you have to have it either or you have to have all or nothing. 0.89

00:18:38.000 Either everybody gets to play that game and everybody gets to have their advocacy group and fight for their interest and fight for their pie or nobody does.

00:18:45.000 And if nobody does, and that means no affirmative action.

00:18:48.000 That means that all the laws are applied equally.

00:18:51.000 That means that there's, we're going to shut down BLM.

00:18:53.000 We're going to shut down the NAACP and everything else.

00:18:56.000 And to me, it seems like that latter outcome is a lot less likely because I don't think these other groups will give up.

00:19:02.000 Their aspirations, their ethnic politics.

00:19:04.000 So I believe that out of defense, white people have to kind of, you know, rise up and put something up equal or similar.

00:19:11.000 Because, you know, you look at California or Texas and it's like white people are already becoming a minority. 0.56

00:19:16.000 And what is that going to look like when they're talking about reparations?

00:19:20.000 Reparations is going to look like a Democrat government with, you know, this coalition of non-white people is going to put it into power, and reparations is going to look like just taking white people's stuff. 0.78

00:19:31.000 Like, I don't want that to happen.

00:19:32.000 If you think that sounds crazy, that's what's happening in South Africa right now.

00:19:36.000 In South Africa, after apartheid ends,

00:19:39.000 Nelson Mandela gets into power, and it's okay.

00:19:41.000 It's hunky-dory for a little while.

00:19:44.000 But slowly, under the surface, tensions and resentment is rising.

00:19:47.000 The economy's going down.

00:19:48.000 This new government is failing.

00:19:50.000 And what do you see now?

00:19:51.000 Now you see the government is legalizing 0.58

00:19:55.000 Land re-appropriations where people are going to go in and take the white farmers land and take their stuff and they're killing the white South African farmers.

00:20:03.000 This already happened in Rhodesia, which is now called Zimbabwe.

00:20:07.000 Same thing happened there.

00:20:08.000 And so maybe that sounds like crazy or far off in the future, but the principle is the same.

00:20:13.000 We must protect the rights of everybody in the country if that's where we're headed.

00:20:18.000 So, um, and I, I just want to make one more question so I can give other people some time.

00:20:22.000 Cause I know, I think other people were, I wouldn't ask questions as well.

00:20:25.000 I know we have a lot of hand raises and stuff like that.

00:20:27.000 So, uh, I don't want to take too much of your time either.

00:20:29.000 I don't know how long you have.

00:20:31.000 Uh, but, uh, pretty much, I guess from my perspective on this is, um, and, and I don't have, I don't have a liberal mindset when it comes to this, actually, you know, I'm probably one of the guys that's like, you know, what, if we're going to have gay pride, then we should have straight pride. 0.64

00:20:45.000 I think that we should have advocacy for both ways.

00:20:52.000 However, you have to admit though that

00:20:56.000 The reason why we don't have, say, I guess a white, you know, like a white political, you know, rally or whatever.

00:21:05.000 Like, these are white politicians that we have in office.

00:21:08.000 Look at us, you know, we've got the power kind of thing, you know, or whatever.

00:21:11.000 Like, the reason why you don't have stuff like that is because we already have the majority of the politicians right now.

00:21:19.000 We don't need the advocacy right now because it would be a different case if we were, say, George Bush's era and we're looking at Barack Obama becoming the first black president ever.

00:21:31.000 It would be a different case if, you know, if it was the first white president ever.

00:21:36.000 But it's not.

00:21:38.000 We're looking at now us being the majority.

00:21:43.000 So say yes, if times change 50 or 100 years down the road and we're the minority, okay.

00:21:50.000 But we're not.

00:21:53.000 We're going to be.

00:21:55.000 But that's based on a hypothetical.

00:21:56.000 That's just as big of a hypothetical as someone saying that communism is going to rise up in America.

00:22:04.000 I just debated someone on that last night, and that's the truth.

00:22:06.000 You can't base your ideals off of these hypotheticals like this, oh my gosh, we're under attack, even though we're the majority.

00:22:14.000 It's not a hypothetical, though.

00:22:15.000 And the reason why it's different is because this comes down to math.

00:22:20.000 You know, talking about communism rising is a social trend, you know, and it's totally different.

00:22:26.000 What we're talking about is fertility rates.

00:22:28.000 We're talking about the rate at which the non-white population inside the United States is growing versus the rate at which the white population is growing.

00:22:36.000 And, you know, these numbers can change, obviously, but they don't tend to fluctuate wildly in short amounts of time.

00:22:42.000 We're on a trajectory.

00:22:43.000 We've been on a trajectory for a long time.

00:22:46.000 In 1965, the white population, it was 90% of the population was white.

00:22:52.000 90% white and roughly 10% black was in 1965.

00:22:55.000 Today, the white population is, I think, just over 60%.

00:23:00.000 And so you can see very clearly the trajectory we're on.

00:23:02.000 What's that?

00:23:03.000 72.

00:23:03.000 That's not true.

00:23:07.000 That's if you count a lot of Hispanics or Arabs that identify as white, but you can check.

00:23:11.000 It's around 60%.

00:23:13.000 And the trajectory is going the same way and will go the same way into the future because

00:23:17.000 The people that we're bringing in, immigrants, they have a much higher fertility rate.

00:23:22.000 The fertility rate for Hispanics is going down, but it was around 2.5, I think the last numbers I saw, compared to white people where it's less than 2.

00:23:30.000 So the fertility rates are as such, and immigration isn't stopping anytime soon, that this is going to happen.

00:23:36.000 This is a reality that white people are going to have to live with. 0.65

00:23:39.000 We're going to be a minority in 10 to 15 years.

00:23:41.000 So what steps would you take to prevent that from happening?

00:23:48.000 What do you do?

00:23:49.000 We start shipping out people?

00:23:52.000 No.

00:23:53.000 I don't know why, but here's the... That's just a genuine question.

00:23:56.000 I'm just wondering what you would do against that.

00:23:59.000 I understand the question, but no, no.

00:24:01.000 It's not that we're going to deport people, like I said.

00:24:03.000 And I said this early on.

00:24:06.000 I said the demographic change that we're seeing is baked into the cake.

00:24:10.000 Really, immigration will accelerate it. 0.57

00:24:13.000 But regardless of immigration, these demographic changes are baked into the cake because of the fertility rates.

00:24:18.000 And I said, we're going to live in a multiracial country.

00:24:20.000 And I said, we're going to have to just figure out how are we going to make that work?

00:24:23.000 How are we going to get along?

00:24:24.000 And if and when that happens, we have to ensure that everybody has rights.

00:24:28.000 We have to ensure that if we're going to talk about equality, then everybody's going to be equal.

00:24:32.000 You know?

00:24:32.000 So that's what I said from the beginning.

00:24:34.000 I didn't say, you know, we're going to deport non-white people or anything like that. 0.93

00:24:37.000 I said, we should probably shut down

00:24:39.000 Immigrations, we could get a handle on stabilizing the country, the social fabric, the economy from just being ravaged by immigration for 70 years. 1.00

00:24:47.000 But, you know, when that turn ultimately happens, as this demographic transition happens, we have to figure out how we're all going to get along, because I'm really not optimistic about where the country is headed as a result of this.

00:24:59.000 Wouldn't you want America, though, to be like a safe haven for people to escape to?

00:25:04.000 That's what it was for in the first place.

00:25:07.000 Uh, that's actually not true.

00:25:09.000 I mean, I know there's a lot of... I understand the founding mythos about, you know, religious separatists fleeing and, you know, like the pilgrims and all of that, but...

00:25:20.000 You know, the founders never intended America to just be, like, the world's refuge for poor and peasants.

00:25:26.000 Like, the people that are coming here are not refugees.

00:25:28.000 They're just poor.

00:25:29.000 You know, the people that have come across the border or that are buying their way in or making anchor babies, they're not fleeing, like, persecution.

00:25:37.000 They're not fleeing genocide.

00:25:38.000 They're economic migrants.

00:25:40.000 It's the same thing happening in Europe.

00:25:41.000 America was not built up so that people could, like, loot it, so that America could, like, or rather so that immigrants could, you know, come through and pillage all of our resources. 1.00

00:25:50.000 So you're talking about mainly African Americans that would be taken over, right? 0.60

00:25:56.000 No.

00:25:58.000 I wasn't listening too closely.

00:25:59.000 Who's mainly going to be like, just anybody who's not white would be the majority, right? 0.97

00:26:05.000 Right.

00:26:06.000 So blacks are roughly 14% of the population and their share of the population will stay the same really throughout the rest of the century.

00:26:15.000 But the groups that are going to expand the most are Hispanics and Asians because that's where the immigration is coming from is Latin America and increasingly Asia.

00:26:24.000 So those are going to be the bigger groups.

00:26:27.000 Um, so, okay.

00:26:29.000 So with, you know, this, okay.

00:26:31.000 With this idea that, you know, yes, uh, people are filling here for economic reasons.

00:26:36.000 Why is that not okay?

00:26:37.000 Why can't, why can we not, why can we not offer them an opportunity to be able to make money?

00:26:41.000 Why can we not offer them an opportunity to be able to be in a better economic state than they were in their previous country?

00:26:47.000 I mean, say I want to do that in America, say I'm failing in America but I have enough money to be able to move to Great Britain and maybe have a better opportunity there, you know?

00:26:55.000 I mean, why can't?

00:26:57.000 Why can't we?

00:26:59.000 Well, because this is really an economist's way of looking at the world.

00:27:03.000 You know, if we look at America as like an open market or a shopping mall or like a business, then you might say, well, you know, you might look at labor like any other economic good.

00:27:16.000 Well, people are going to come here.

00:27:17.000 They're going to get jobs.

00:27:18.000 And maybe I'll go somewhere else and get a job.

00:27:20.000 But America is not a factory.

00:27:22.000 America is not a shopping mall.

00:27:24.000 It's not an open market.

00:27:25.000 I'm not saying you are.

00:27:26.000 I'm just saying that perception

00:27:28.000 I think it's been created.

00:27:29.000 America is our home.

00:27:31.000 America is our homeland.

00:27:32.000 And the idea that people would be coming in here and the only thing that America has to offer for the world is to give poor people from other countries jobs, I think diminishes what America means to all of us.

00:27:45.000 To me, my neighborhood, because, you know, we talk about the country, but really it's about your neighborhood.

00:27:49.000 My neighborhood is my home.

00:27:51.000 And people coming into my neighborhood and getting jobs, you know, good for them, right?

00:27:56.000 Fantastic.

00:27:57.000 It's really good for them, because they're going to come from some slum in Nicaragua, and they're going to come to my neighborhood, and suddenly they're not in a slum. 0.98

00:28:05.000 They're in a nice suburb, and it's 95% white, and there's no violence and everything, and they're going to get a nice job.

00:28:11.000 But here's the thing.

00:28:12.000 If the entire character of the neighborhood changes, if the demographics of the neighborhood change, it's not going to be my neighborhood anymore.

00:28:18.000 You're going to see different food, different restaurants, different customs, different holidays, different everything.

00:28:24.000 My kids are going to go to school and be a minority.

00:28:26.000 They won't be playing baseball.

00:28:27.000 They'll be playing cricket.

00:28:29.000 They won't be eating hot dogs.

00:28:30.000 They'll be eating kebab.

00:28:31.000 It won't be my neighborhood anymore.

00:28:34.000 The texture of life, which is what we love about America, will cease to exist.

00:28:38.000 And that's without even... I mean, I could address the economic argument why it's terrible for our economy to bring these people in, but there's a great book called We Wanted Workers by George Borjas, and it comes from an expression from a German from 60 years ago, where he said, we wanted workers, we got people. 0.96

00:28:55.000 Referring to immigration.

00:28:56.000 We wanted workers, we got people.

00:28:58.000 We want people to come into work, we found out that those people have lives outside of work.

00:29:02.000 They're living here, they're eating here, they're doing all kinds of different things.

00:29:06.000 So it's not just workers, it's not as benign as economic activity.

00:29:08.000 They're fundamentally changing the character of the country.

00:29:11.000 So, I guess, you know, I know I'd say I gathered everything you're saying.

00:29:17.000 So I want to preface by saying I did gather everything that you're saying with the culture change and all that.

00:29:24.000 I guess what I'm not picking up on is as to

00:29:29.000 Why can we not share?

00:29:31.000 Why can we not share?

00:29:32.000 Because even though my culture is changing, if my culture is changing, why can I not, I guess, change myself to be able to acclimate to the change?

00:29:42.000 There's definitely cultural divides, but why is it a bad thing to have other cultures mixing in with ours?

00:29:49.000 Or, as you call it, the culture clash.

00:29:51.000 Right, like, my family comes from Italy, and I'm a white immigrant, and I don't know why someone's skin color, or someone's race, or where they come from matters whether or not they're gonna come and, like, give to the economy, get a job, you know, put into the economy, because when they get jobs, they're putting their money in, and they're spending their money, and they're putting that money into the economy, and it's circulating.

00:30:13.000 Yeah.

00:30:13.000 The race, but like the race is like, you know, connected to the culture.

00:30:16.000 Cause I remember we were talking about that earlier, but it is the culture you're talking about.

00:30:19.000 What if they're an African American? 0.91

00:30:21.000 What if their race is African, you know, African of descent, but they're born in America, they have the same culture as any other white American.

00:30:28.000 Well, I have, I have a question that may throw everyone off a little bit, but what exactly is American culture?

00:30:35.000 Which American culture are we talking about?

00:30:37.000 American culture varies from region of the country to region of the country.

00:30:41.000 I mean, I don't know if anyone here has had a chance to read the nine nations of North America, but like there are many distinct American cultures that exist that have evolved over the past 400 years.

00:30:53.000 And to say that even amongst one race or, uh, in America that our culture is homogenous is being somewhat disingenuous in my opinion.

00:31:06.000 So, I mean, if we're trying to save American culture,

00:31:11.000 Which American culture are we trying to say?

00:31:14.000 There's a big difference between even like you said like Southern culture and Northern culture and Western culture like in America itself and there's a lot of it and that differs between you know obviously white people too.

00:31:28.000 Go ahead.

00:31:31.000 So which question do you want me to answer?

00:31:34.000 Start with Political Education's question about which American culture are you talking about?

00:31:40.000 Can you give me the ability to mute myself? 0.72

00:31:43.000 I gotta take a piss.

00:31:45.000 If Nick has to leave, Nick has to leave, but we'll try to get to as many questions as possible.

00:32:05.000 Yeah, I'm vibing.

00:32:06.000 I'm here.

00:32:06.000 I'm chilling.

00:32:09.000 I honestly think we're very curious, though, because I've never traveled to that part of political theory, I guess, if you want to call it that.

00:32:18.000 So I'm very curious.

00:32:19.000 So if you want to start with political education's question. 0.98

00:32:22.000 Yeah, no, and I appreciate it, because a lot of people just call me, like, racist, and they're like, shut up! 0.99

00:32:26.000 You're racist! 0.99

00:32:27.000 I appreciate the conversation. 0.98

00:32:29.000 It's good.

00:32:30.000 That's a better way to respond to a difference of opinion with, you know, curiosity and, you know, inquiries than, like, you know, you're all right. 0.93

00:32:37.000 I hate you.

00:32:37.000 So I appreciate it.

00:32:39.000 But the question about culture is a valid one. 0.99

00:32:43.000 It is true that there are cultures... America is a big country, and America has a lot of different populations which have been assimilated over the years, and there are regional differences, and there are all kinds of differences, but I think this fundamentally obfuscates the reality, which is that America, you know, does have a cohesive basic identity, which is to say that everybody in America speaks English.

00:33:06.000 I mean, not everybody, but if we were to agree that there is a

00:33:11.000 Cultural core to America, if we were to try to deduce what that is, it's speaking English.

00:33:16.000 It's being Christian, frankly, and obviously there's some people that are not Christian, but even the people that are not Christian, they're brought up with biblical stories.

00:33:23.000 They're brought up in a Western culture, influenced by the Bible, and they have a Christian morality.

00:33:29.000 Even if they don't believe in Christianity, they're born a society shaped by it, right?

00:33:34.000 We have shared experiences.

00:33:36.000 Even if you're talking about you're from the South, the North and the South both share that historical experience of the Civil War.

00:33:42.000 My ancestors came here about 120 years ago in the turn of the 20th century.

00:33:47.000 I'm Italian, Mexican, and Irish, so I didn't participate in that.

00:33:50.000 Or my ancestors didn't, rather.

00:33:52.000 But my ancestors did participate in World War II, the Vietnam War, the industrialization of the country, and so on.

00:33:59.000 So it's shared experiences, it's shared language, it's shared religion, or, you know, the ancestor or inheritance of religion.

00:34:06.000 And those are just a few basic ones.

00:34:08.000 So I agree that you could say that there are cultural differences across the country, but there also is a cultural core.

00:34:14.000 And I know that I could say what is not American is, like, Chinese characters when you're writing, like, Mandarin. 0.72

00:34:20.000 I know that what is not American is Buddhism. 0.94

00:34:22.000 I know that what is not American is, you know, having your experience being the Great Leap Forward in China. 0.55

00:34:27.000 I know that, you know, Islam is not a part of the American cultural core.

00:34:32.000 We know what the American cultural core is.

00:34:34.000 And to, you know, bring up some of these differences, while they are valid, I think it obfuscates the broader picture, which is there's sort of a continuum there.

00:34:41.000 You know, would we say that

00:34:43.000 Me being an Italian from Chicago is as different from an Anglo-Virginian than I am different from somebody who lives in the Congo? 1.00

00:34:52.000 Would you say that there's the same degree of difference between an Italian Midwesterner and an Anglo-Southerner than there is between me and an African or the Anglo and, you know, an African in the Congo?

00:35:03.000 Of course not.

00:35:04.000 You know, there's a huge disparity between those two cultures and different languages and religions and customs and history and so on.

00:35:11.000 And that's the clash we're talking about.

00:35:13.000 But at the same time, you've also got most of the immigration that we have coming into the country are also coming from Christianized and Westernized cultures.

00:35:23.000 I mean, I wouldn't exactly call most of Latin America a lack of Christianity as far as their culture.

00:35:31.000 I would actually say that in a lot of ways, they're definitely more Christian than a lot of Americans are, even that practice Christianity.

00:35:40.000 So how would

00:35:42.000 Their immigration specifically sort of mess up the balance of culture in America. 1.00

00:35:50.000 Well, again, there's going to be similarities.

00:35:52.000 I mean, there are African Christians and there are Asian Christians.

00:35:56.000 And there are Indians who speak English.

00:35:58.000 There's going to be overlap.

00:35:59.000 What we're talking about is the full boat.

00:36:02.000 You know, Hispanics may practice a version of Christianity, but what is also true about Hispanics is that they're largely Catholic.

00:36:08.000 I'm Catholic, of course, and there's a large contingent of Catholics in America, but we know that the American founding was characteristically Protestant, and the American population was characteristically Protestant for, you know, a hundred years after its founding, until the turn of the century brought a lot of South and Eastern Europeans over.

00:36:27.000 So it's a Protestant Christian country versus Catholic.

00:36:29.000 That's one difference right out of the gate.

00:36:31.000 The other difference is that in a lot of Hispanic countries, you have a very pagan practice of Christianity.

00:36:37.000 You know, their pagan roots go far deeper than their Christian roots.

00:36:42.000 And so this is where you see a lot of cults and a lot of weird tribal type things going on.

00:36:47.000 So even Christianity is very different. 0.99

00:36:50.000 And, you know, this is maybe the closest population to Europeans, because obviously there's been a large degree of racial mixing because of colonialism.

00:36:58.000 And obviously we brought Christianity, but even our closest relative speaks a different language, practices a different kind of Christianity, has a different historical expression of it.

00:37:07.000 They were historical antagonists to America, you know, 150 years ago.

00:37:11.000 The list goes on and on.

00:37:15.000 I would say that, again, you can find differences between Americans and similarities between others, but again, I think this is kind of missing the forest for the trees.

00:37:22.000 I think we all know what we're talking about here, that, you know, when Hispanics are coming in and taking over these neighborhoods, they look different, they sound different, the way of life is different, and those differences matter. 1.00

00:37:34.000 And, you know, maybe those differences are interesting or unique, but I'd like to visit Mexico if I want to experience Mexican culture, not step outside of my door, you know what I'm saying?

00:37:43.000 So, that's where I draw the line.

00:37:45.000 I find it to be somewhat interesting that you say that America was necessarily founded on Protestant Christian values when specifically the man that wrote the Declaration of Independence was an outspoken deist and contributed significantly to the Bill of Rights and the framing of the Constitution in and of itself.

00:38:05.000 So to try and place this sort of

00:38:09.000 The theological essence behind the very first secular country to be founded in the history of the world to me is, it's extremely disingenuous because the whole reason that the country was founded without a state religion was so that there could be mixing of cultures and people could express their different cultures and their different religious beliefs in different ways.

00:38:33.000 And I mean, there have been some violations along that line.

00:38:37.000 We can, you know, even though I disagree with their, their faith, we can see sort of what happened to the LDS church in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

00:38:46.000 Now, I think that, you know, I'm not, I'm not agreeing with their faith, but I do think that they were treated unfairly by a lot of government entities.

00:38:55.000 So, I mean, to, to claim that America is a Protestant Christian nation or is even a Christian nation in and of itself is, is factually incorrect.

00:39:07.000 Because we, our founders wanted to make sure that our citizens were able to practice whatever their belief systems were, as long as they were not interfering with the life, liberty, or property of another individual.

00:39:21.000 So how can we frame this culture within a religious, within, you know, with religion being one aspect, if our founders didn't necessarily frame the country as a religious country overall?

00:39:36.000 Yeah.

00:39:36.000 Well, first of all, I don't like that you keep saying I'm disingenuous because I don't think I'm being disingenuous.

00:39:42.000 No, no, no, no.

00:39:43.000 Not you.

00:39:44.000 Not you as an individual.

00:39:45.000 Just the argument.

00:39:46.000 The argument.

00:39:46.000 Right.

00:39:47.000 Of course.

00:39:48.000 Well, I don't think it's disingenuous.

00:39:49.000 I think it's just a different interpretation of what you mean by a country.

00:39:52.000 If you think that the government is the country, then, you know, maybe that is where you might say something like that.

00:39:57.000 But I think this ignores the fact that

00:40:00.000 Most the vast majority of the population was Protestant Christian and I think you would find that even the founding fathers if they were deists or not they were influenced by Protestant Christian culture and British culture and

00:40:14.000 And to say that, well, because the government has the separation of church and state in this doctrine, which, by the way, does not appear in the Constitution, but because of this doctrine, then that means that America is a secular country.

00:40:26.000 Of course, maybe the government was intended to be secular in certain ways.

00:40:30.000 The population was not secular.

00:40:32.000 The civil society was not secular.

00:40:35.000 You know, really was not secular in any meaningful way, except for the way in which they conducted their politics.

00:40:40.000 You know, would we say that

00:40:42.000 You know, there's this theory that George Washington converted to Catholicism on his deathbed.

00:40:46.000 You know, whether or not that's true, would we say that if it was true, if George Washington converted to Catholicism on his deathbed, that because he was the president and a framer, that America is a Catholic country?

00:40:56.000 I mean, no.

00:40:57.000 You know, we're talking about one deist who wrote the Declaration of Independence, allegedly, and the way the government is set up, versus how the population was, and how the population was for a long time.

00:41:07.000 You know, the religious awakenings that happened in the country throughout the 19th and 18th centuries played a very important role in the country.

00:41:15.000 Churches, Protestant and otherwise, played a very important role, and Americans' faith played a very important role in their culture and their politics for a long time.

00:41:22.000 So to say that because the government lacked religious mechanisms means that America was a secular country or that the culture is not meaningfully Christian, I think that is just kind of a silly argument to make.

00:41:35.000 I mean, we would certainly say that Turkey,

00:41:38.000 Turkey had a secular Republican government since 1926.

00:41:41.000 That's changed recently.

00:41:42.000 Would we say that at any point since then, Turkey was not meaningfully Islamic or influenced by Islamic culture, Islamic values and so on?

00:41:49.000 Of course not.

00:41:50.000 And we wouldn't say that about a lot of other countries where similar things have happened.

00:41:53.000 So I would say that, so no, I think that is a part of the cultural court.

00:41:57.000 We're getting hung up on these, you know, well, what about this?

00:42:00.000 What about that?

00:42:00.000 We're talking about the big picture.

00:42:03.000 Super quick, Nick is trying to join the Zoom, but there's 100 people, so he can't.

00:42:07.000 He says it's full.

00:42:08.000 Nick videos?

00:42:11.000 Yeah.

00:42:13.000 Hang on, hang on.

00:42:15.000 Tell Nick to join and sit in the waiting room.

00:42:17.000 By the way, are you guys streaming this anywhere?

00:42:18.000 Just out of curiosity.

00:42:19.000 I'm recording.

00:42:20.000 No, no, no.

00:42:20.000 We're just recording it.

00:42:21.000 Okay.

00:42:22.000 You guys, are you going to post it anywhere?

00:42:25.000 It's up to you, yeah.

00:42:27.000 I'd be fine with it.

00:42:28.000 I would want it to be posted.

00:42:29.000 It's a very large file.

00:42:33.000 Anybody that has co-host powers, don't do anything.

00:42:35.000 I'm gonna remove people and then I'm gonna... Yeah, it says he can't even join the waiting room.

00:42:41.000 Yeah, there's over 200 people in the waiting room.

00:42:45.000 and then I'm gonna go through and find him.

00:42:47.000 If you manually have your hand up like this it's gonna get tired so if you do just put your flag up and like that's raising your hand and we're gonna call on you.

00:42:56.000 We will try to call on you because Jesus Christ there's a lot of those.

00:43:00.000 Tell Nick okay I'm sorry for the disorganization just there's a lot of people in here so tell Nick videos to sit in the waiting room.

00:43:07.000 I'm gonna Reese I got it I'm gonna find him do the thing.

00:43:11.000 There's just so many people.

00:43:12.000 Yeah.

00:43:13.000 Can you make the limit higher?

00:43:14.000 Cause I've been in a zoom with like 300 people before.

00:43:16.000 I don't know what the price on that is though.

00:43:18.000 Yeah.

00:43:19.000 It's like a 700 bucks.

00:43:20.000 Nobody touched the waiting room.

00:43:22.000 Let the names keep coming in.

00:43:36.000 Make sure he's muted.

00:43:37.000 Jordan's muted.

00:43:37.000 That's right.

00:43:39.000 That's right.

00:43:40.000 We forgot about Jordan.

00:43:42.000 I don't know.

00:43:44.000 Click in now.

00:43:45.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.000 Here, let me call him real quick.

00:43:47.000 One second.

00:43:48.000 Yeah.

00:43:48.000 Nick, you said just join the waiting room and they can add you in.

00:43:54.000 Somebody else on the phone with him?

00:43:56.000 Yeah.

00:43:57.000 Oh yeah, this is definitely like the TikTok powerhouse.

00:44:04.000 Every important political person on TikTok is here.

00:44:07.000 Joshua Heisenberg joined at the beginning of the Zoom call.

00:44:11.000 I was a little bit curious, not gonna lie.

00:44:24.000 His little kid?

00:44:25.000 I don't know, it said Joshua Heisenberg.

00:44:28.000 I'm not sure, is his name Joshua?

00:44:30.000 Somebody's playing GTA and just pointing a screen at GTA.

00:44:33.000 Yeah, this happens.

00:44:35.000 Oh yeah, last night it was Rocket League.

00:44:39.000 Like Matty said, everybody that keeps raising your hand, dog, I've literally seen people's hands turn different colors because they're holding up too high.

00:44:45.000 Just chillax, just chillax.

00:44:50.000 We're just chilling here.

00:44:50.000 If you lose blood circulation in your hand, be my guest.

00:44:57.000 Yeah.

00:44:59.000 Nick's not in the waiting room.

00:45:00.000 Oh, hey.

00:45:00.000 Hey, what's up, Luke?

00:45:02.000 Oh, Luke's here.

00:45:04.000 Somebody unmute Luke.

00:45:05.000 Oh, I found him.

00:45:07.000 We got Luke.

00:45:08.000 Unmute Luke.

00:45:09.000 Oh, wait.

00:45:10.000 No, he's not.

00:45:10.000 I thought I did.

00:45:13.000 This is legendary stuff right here.

00:45:16.000 Since when do you get Nick Fuentes on a Zoom call?

00:45:20.000 Is this the first Zoom call for you, Nick?

00:45:22.000 Yeah it is, yeah.

00:45:25.000 Get like Kyle Klutz here, like, I don't know.

00:45:28.000 You gotta get all the people in here.

00:45:29.000 Bring them into TikTok.

00:45:32.000 Okay, next we have to get someone on the left, so we have to go back and forth, like right and left, like have a guest star on here.

00:45:41.000 Let's get Karl Marx in.

00:45:43.000 Get Marx in.

00:45:45.000 So every political person we know is in here.

00:45:48.000 Wait, is Nick in here now?

00:45:48.000 Yeah, Nick's in here now.

00:45:51.000 Lucas, proud Libbyism here from Liberal Hype House.

00:45:54.000 Yeah, I got you.

00:45:57.000 I unmuted.

00:45:58.000 Thank you, thank you.

00:45:59.000 The whole first page is you.

00:46:00.000 Dude, there's so much power in this.

00:46:03.000 Yeah, so much power.

00:46:05.000 Wait, is Nick actually in here?

00:46:07.000 Yeah, Nick just stepped away.

00:46:09.000 Sorry.

00:46:09.000 I can't see Nick.

00:46:10.000 You're unmuted, I think. 1.00

00:46:11.000 Unmute?

00:46:12.000 Yeah, we can.

00:46:14.000 Nick, like, make your microphone a little bit louder.

00:46:16.000 Wait, guys, this is Luke, and I unmuted.

00:46:20.000 Yes, we can hear you right now.

00:46:21.000 We hear you, Luke.

00:46:24.000 Everyone on first page is like political powerhouses that I'm seeing.

00:46:28.000 I've yet to see everybody, honestly.

00:46:30.000 Actually, Fredrick's still on my first page.

00:46:34.000 He is part of the powerhouse!

00:46:36.000 The GTA guy's on my first page.

00:46:38.000 This is a collective of... Donald Trump, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:46:42.000 Donald Trump is extremely important.

00:46:43.000 Yes, he's playing GTA for us.

00:46:45.000 Yeah, this is a collective of probably over a million followers for sure on TikTok.

00:46:49.000 Way more than a million followers.

00:46:51.000 Way more.

00:46:54.000 Are we counting the group accounts as well?

00:46:56.000 I'm going to start calling on people just so we can get the... Make sure you keep your questions brief though, please.

00:47:00.000 Yeah, questions are brief.

00:47:01.000 We're going to let the audience ask them.

00:47:02.000 Alright, so I'm going to go to David Asher Berman.

00:47:04.000 You're unmuted. 0.93

00:47:05.000 Go ahead, ask your question.

00:47:21.000 Yes, I'm a big Nick fan.

00:47:22.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:47:24.000 My biggest question is, so Lance videos, you guys, you're big Libertarians, right?

00:47:31.000 I'm Libertarian on a lot of stuff, but I'm Conservative on some stuff, so I wouldn't consider myself a full-fledged Libertarian or a full-fledged Conservative.

00:47:39.000 So, I mean, I'm kind of in the middle.

00:47:41.000 Okay, and so your biggest thing, kind of, is like, if we were a full socialist country, like Bernie Sanders socialism, like, you think the country's completely

00:47:51.000 You kind of broke up, I didn't hear what you said.

00:47:57.000 You think, like, the country would be over, pretty much?

00:47:59.000 Is that what your kind of idea of thought is?

00:48:01.000 Well, the problem... See, the thing with Bernie Sanders is that his plans are even so radical that the establishment Democrats, like in Congress, they wouldn't pass anything.

00:48:09.000 So if Bernie Sanders would become president, I think that he would become a lame duck, just because any time he passed, like, an executive order, Congress would just go around him and, like, develop, like, a bill or some type of legislation that would just completely annihilate everything.

00:48:21.000 I don't think that Bernie Sanders would get a lot of his radical plans done.

00:48:24.000 Like controlling rent on apartments like that's I would never pass.

00:48:29.000 Even Medicare for all.

00:48:30.000 That's the thing.

00:48:30.000 So I think based on kind of what Nick has said, like, so demographically, like California, you said 30 years ago, it was bright red, like, like it was red every single time.

00:48:42.000 Basically, with the influx of immigration, it's turned blue. 0.99

00:48:45.000 And now we're seeing this with Texas.

00:48:46.000 Texas, I think it's 2028, is expected to go blue for a presidential race.

00:48:52.000 So, as the Democratic Party is shifting even further left, why do you guys say we need more immigrants when it's obvious that about 70% of immigrants are voting Democrat, and we're gonna get a full socialist country unless we stop this?

00:49:05.000 If that's what you guys are, your biggest concern.

00:49:07.000 Well, first of all, Bernie isn't full socialist.

00:49:09.000 Second of all,

00:49:11.000 At least I'm not advocating for a massive influx of immigrants, but where I disagree with America First and the Groypers is I don't think that we should set like racial quarters on immigration. 0.97

00:49:21.000 I think that we should just accept like, you know, like whoever applies.

00:49:25.000 I don't think... One I would say that regulates is overall immigrants. 0.84

00:49:27.000 Even European immigrants vote Democrat.

00:49:31.000 Yeah, I don't think that we accept far more immigrants than any other country.

00:49:35.000 But again, at the same time, I don't think that we should just deport everybody like that, just to play partisan politics.

00:49:41.000 It's literally estimated that deporting everybody could cost more than the war in Iraq.

00:49:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I didn't say deport, I said bring in, which is net zero. 1.00

00:49:48.000 Yeah, I don't think that we should just, we have so many illegals that are already here, we shouldn't keep letting in just like thousands, like hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year. 1.00

00:49:55.000 Well that's my biggest question.

00:49:56.000 How do you expect to keep the Republican party going if the immigrants are bringing in over a million by the year, our voting majority Democrat, in some states Trump won by less than 20,000 votes?

00:50:13.000 A lot of the immigrants that vote mostly Democrat come from Mexico, and usually Mexico or anywhere in like Central America, South America, and Asia, Asia, like those countries there.

00:50:23.000 They usually, they usually don't go to other, they don't usually go to like other states, like they usually go like California, Arizona, Texas, states like that.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, Virginia.

00:50:32.000 Virginia, yeah, a little bit.

00:50:33.000 But they don't go up north in states like that.

00:50:35.000 They're usually already blue.

00:50:36.000 I don't know.

00:50:37.000 Texas is, if we lose Texas, it's over.

00:50:40.000 Well, a big reason why Texas is also turning blue is because a ton of people from California are moving to Texas as well, just because taxes and everything in California is so high. 0.94

00:50:48.000 See, this is what I think is going to happen, because I think what's going to happen is this country is going to have to end up going so far left, like what happened with the UK, and then everybody's going to have to realize, like, this shit isn't working, and then we're going to have to come back, like what's happening right now with the UK. 0.95

00:51:02.000 That's what's going to happen. 0.84

00:51:03.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying you don't want to craft policy based on your political goals.

00:51:08.000 You're not going to control immigration based on whether you're Republican.

00:51:11.000 Yeah, I don't want to control immigration just to keep the country Republican.

00:51:15.000 That's super partisan.

00:51:18.000 Well, the other side's doing it anyway, so why not?

00:51:22.000 Nick, I guess I have to call you guys by other names because... Yeah, we gotta get some names going.

00:51:28.000 Okay, I'm just gonna say Nicholas and Nick, okay?

00:51:30.000 How about that?

00:51:32.000 Nicholas, I know you're making some faces.

00:51:34.000 I'm guessing you disagree with that statement about the partisanship.

00:51:37.000 Yeah, well, you know, here's the deal.

00:51:41.000 Here's the deal, Jack.

00:51:43.000 When it comes to politics, what are we really trying to do if we're not trying to win?

00:51:48.000 I mean, partisanship is not like a soccer game that would be nice if we won, but if we don't, well, good game, everybody.

00:51:55.000 I mean, if you look at what the Democrats are advocating,

00:51:58.000 It's things are going to wreck the country.

00:52:00.000 You know, it's universal health care with single payer.

00:52:03.000 It's, you know, they want mass immigration, illegal immigration, legal immigration.

00:52:08.000 They want abortion, gay marriage, trans story times and everything, or drag queen story time. 0.71

00:52:14.000 Like, they have to be defeated. 0.86

00:52:16.000 And if they're not defeated, they're going to destroy us.

00:52:19.000 I mean, look at what they've been doing to Republicans.

00:52:21.000 Look at what Obama did to Republicans.

00:52:23.000 The I.O.S.

00:52:24.000 is stripped.

00:52:25.000 No, the IRS stripped the GOP of their tax-exempt status or conservative groups.

00:52:33.000 He used backdoor gun control with environmental regulations.

00:52:36.000 He put in place a policy with HUD that said that if your town is more than 50% white,

00:52:41.000 They're gonna put Section 8 housing in your neighborhood and, like, destroy property values and so on.

00:52:45.000 Like, the Democrats are playing for keeps.

00:52:48.000 They're gonna craft hate speech legislation that'll throw us in jail if we say the wrong thing. 0.85

00:52:53.000 That's already happened in Europe and in Canada.

00:52:55.000 And we're sitting around like, well, it'd be nice if we won.

00:52:58.000 Democrats are pouring immigrants into the country so they could vote for Democrats.

00:53:02.000 And make it so that they'll never lose an election until the end of time.

00:53:06.000 And we're saying, well, you know, if we were to resist that just so we can win an election, we'd be just as bad as them.

00:53:12.000 And, you know, there's a phrase that Sam Francis liked to use, Samuel Francis, who's a great conservative thinker. 0.98

00:53:18.000 He said that conservatives are beautiful losers.

00:53:21.000 They don't care if they lose so long as they can say, well, we lost nobly. 0.98

00:53:25.000 We lost, but we were beautiful.

00:53:26.000 We were the most principled and we kept to the constitution.

00:53:30.000 I want to win.

00:53:31.000 I want to protect my kids.

00:53:33.000 I want to keep America Christian. 0.97

00:53:34.000 I want to protect workers.

00:53:36.000 I want to end wars.

00:53:37.000 And I'm willing to do that if that means shutting down immigration. 0.99

00:53:40.000 Now, there's other reasons why we should shut down immigration, but I'm not going to say, well, we shouldn't engage in partisan politics because that is just to make us win.

00:53:49.000 Look what the left does with no voter ID.

00:53:51.000 What do you think that's about?

00:53:52.000 Letting felons vote?

00:53:54.000 And direct democracy?

00:53:55.000 They're saying give it to the Electoral College?

00:53:57.000 They're trying to change the whole system to rig it so they'll never lose again.

00:54:00.000 And we're saying, well, we're going to play by the rules and we'll pass to the other teams sometimes.

00:54:05.000 And, you know, we're going to sit this one out.

00:54:06.000 It's just like, I don't know.

00:54:07.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:54:09.000 So let me chime in real quick.

00:54:10.000 So I agree with Nicholas on the fact that

00:54:13.000 This is more than just, you know, I like Republicans versus Democrats.

00:54:18.000 These are legit policies that's going to affect us on a wide scale, right?

00:54:22.000 But what I don't understand with Nicholas is the fact that he was talking about not assimilating with other people.

00:54:28.000 To me, instead of pushing parties, I think you should push policies.

00:54:31.000 The only way to understand and get people to understand your policies and if it work is you actually be around people and help people.

00:54:37.000 So if you're not allowing people to be around you or live around you that have different beliefs, how are they supposed to understand and gravitate towards your side?

00:54:45.000 To me, that's more that grassroots movement, right?

00:54:48.000 So how do you make that happen?

00:54:50.000 And on that scale, what you need to have done?

00:54:55.000 Well, we're trying to do that.

00:54:56.000 I think that the America First policies, because, and that's a great question, the GOP and the Democratic Party are both corrupt.

00:55:04.000 They're both controlled by donors and corporations.

00:55:07.000 That's why Trump came in and really changed everything, because he was the only one that wasn't controlled by all that.

00:55:13.000 So I agree with you that it's not about parties.

00:55:15.000 I'm not, believe me, I'm not like a card-carrying GOP member.

00:55:18.000 I love the Republican Party.

00:55:19.000 I'm a conservative, okay? 0.90

00:55:20.000 I'm a Christian, and those things come before... You're an anti-Semitic.

00:55:25.000 No, I'm not.

00:55:26.000 That's a very left-wing tactic.

00:55:28.000 But in any case, what we're trying to do with our policies is make them appeal to non-traditional demographics.

00:55:36.000 That's why we're pushing things in TikTok or on college campuses or whatever, and a lot of people that follow me or that are America First,

00:55:45.000 We're good to go.

00:56:06.000 We're good to go.

00:56:28.000 Well, you're conflating culture with a religion and a race when they don't necessarily intertwine.

00:56:33.000 Like, I can be born in America and be Jewish and have the same exact culture as someone who's Christian.

00:56:38.000 Like, yes, you do have, like, overlap of someone who's Jewish and Christian, yes, but I can be ethnically Jewish

00:56:44.000 I don't think so.

00:56:59.000 I know there's a lot of controversy about what they're supposed to be called, you know, with that TikTok that went viral the other day.

00:57:04.000 But, you know, I just call them blacks or whatever. 0.99

00:57:07.000 If you look at black and white culture in America, is black and white culture the same?

00:57:12.000 You know, do they think the same politically?

00:57:14.000 Do they listen to the same music?

00:57:15.000 Do they wear the same clothes?

00:57:17.000 Do they have to?

00:57:18.000 Shouldn't matter.

00:57:19.000 Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.

00:57:20.000 Let me, let me make my point.

00:57:21.000 The point, I'm not saying they should have to or anything like that.

00:57:24.000 I'm saying that even in the case of Blacks and Whites who have been on this continent for 500 years together, and obviously, you know, Blacks came here under different circumstances than White people, but nevertheless, you know, Blacks have been on this continent with White people for 500 years, and, you know, they're not perfectly assimilated in the same way that anybody else is. 0.92

00:57:44.000 And so, and all this is to say that

00:57:47.000 Assimilation on a large scale is a much bigger ask than people think it is.

00:57:52.000 People think it's like, oh well, you know, you watch Netflix and you buy Nike, therefore you're assimilated.

00:57:58.000 But even today, race relations between blacks and whites has not been repaired, and it's not totally together, and they don't have a complete and total monoculture.

00:58:06.000 And it's, you know, all of that is to demonstrate that

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - April 21, 2020

Nick Fuentes on The Conservative Values Zoom Call (Part 1)

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