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00:00:21.000I don't know, I mean, I guess in theory, like, all, you know, everything that goes on in the animal kingdom was not a whole lot of consensual stuff, you know what I mean?
00:00:30.000So he doesn't really take the dolphin's consent, you just do it.
00:00:34.000It's the law of the jungle, so to speak, so I think it's kind of anything goes.
00:00:38.000So could a dolphin rape a human, but a human not rape a dolphin?
00:00:41.000Uh, yeah, yeah, I think that's about right, yeah.
00:02:17.000You know, it's kind of tough to say because things have gone so far in the wrong direction that, you know, probably radical reform is required.
00:02:26.000Like, it's hard for me to think of, like, excess on the right.
00:02:29.000It's hard for me to even think of excess on the right when we have so much excess to the left in terms of...
00:02:35.000Like, you know, child drag queens and story hour and, you know, free trade and, you know, two Middle East wars at the same time and this bailout that just happened for Wall Street because of the coronavirus.
00:02:48.000Like, it's hard to even imagine how far it'd be too far.
00:02:51.000I mean, I'm obviously not like, you know, in favor of like murder, you know, like the state, like mass violence by the state.
00:02:58.000I think we could all agree that would be too far.
00:03:01.000So, I know you were talking about the bailout.
00:03:04.000I'm assuming you disagree with the bailout that we just did for coronavirus?
00:03:27.000Well, it's not that I disagree with that.
00:03:29.000I believe that it was required, like a big stimulus was required, but I think, excuse me, that the proportionality of it was wrong in the sense that they probably should have given a lot more money for small business loans and for cash payments and less money to bail out
00:03:49.000I think that you need stimulus for both parts of the economy.
00:03:53.000You need to stimulate like Wall Street and the big industries and you also do stimulate the people but I thought that the priorities were totally lopsided Yeah, so like I and this is like a theory of my own because I personally think that we should have had less less cash in the hands of Americans and more money to be spent towards instead of just having them still paying their bills
00:04:15.000How about the American government say, hell, I mean, just let's go ahead and put a halt on all your bills.
00:04:21.000We'll pay these companies off for their losses.
00:04:24.000And so instead of just handing out cash and maybe running into a situation where I know I've heard of Americans just spending it on whatever, TVs and crap, I mean, how about we save ourselves that trouble and just pay the companies themselves?
00:04:37.000And, you know, because if they don't have the bills to pay, then they don't have to worry about the money situation.
00:04:43.000Well, the problem for a lot of people is that they're in a no or a low income situation where it's not so much that the bills are too much, but there's just no money coming in, right?
00:04:52.000I mean, the money going out is a problem, but there's no money coming in.
00:04:55.000So I think that in addition to helping people, relieving their burden with bills, I think the stimulus also stimulates demand in the economy in the sense that, you know, people are probably going to take their checks and spend it on frivolous things.
00:05:09.000But that is a good thing because when there's more spending, then that means that the economy is going.
00:05:14.000And I'm not typically like a big Keynesian, like a big demand side guy.
00:05:18.000But, you know, in this context, obviously demand is totally artificially suppressed by these restrictions on people shopping and eating out and, you know, the shelter in place.
00:05:29.000So I think that it's probably a much better approach just give people the cash.
00:05:32.000That they have bills to pay, they can pay them.
00:05:35.000If not, then at least they're spending money.
00:05:37.000And that is just another form of stimulus.
00:05:39.000That's just like another monetary injection, which to me is a lot better than doing an injection the other way, which is having the Federal Reserve buy stuff or, you know, giving it to Wall Street, because Wall Street is just squandering it.
00:05:53.000They're squandering it on stock buybacks and, you know, other ridiculous things.
00:05:56.000So I think it's just better to give people the cash.
00:05:59.000Okay, yeah, that's an interesting concept because I know I've talked about, you know, the coronavirus stimulus package and the reaction of the American government to the coronavirus and all that.
00:06:08.000Actually, like, very frequently, you know, even going back to like
00:06:11.000Trump's response in general to, you know, travel bans, stuff like that, associated with it.
00:06:16.000So I definitely would ask you about that.
00:08:13.000But if the jobs dry up and the money dries up, a lot of them will just leave themselves.
00:08:17.000So in a lot of cases, you don't even need to deport many because they will just flee if you cut off the benefits and if you cut off the jobs.
00:09:45.000It is hurting American workers because you increase the labor pool and it decreases wages.
00:09:50.000And so it has so many bad effects when you scale it this big that we have to stop it and kind of survey the damage and see how we're going to put the country back together.
00:09:59.000Cause I think it's going to cause a lot of big problems in the future if it's not causing problems already.
00:10:04.000So, and I'm just like basing this off of what you said in that statement is like with the, um, with like the negative that you, you know, had said with it is the culture, the culture aspect.
00:10:26.000A country has to be cohesive and orderly and stable, and what is critical to that is some degree of consensus on culture, which is to say, you know, what god you worship, your politics, your language, even little things like mannerisms, customs, things you might not even think about, like sense of humor or your perception on the role of women or the role of government.
00:11:15.000One side wins, one side loses, and the people that win decide what the country looks like.
00:11:19.000And so you bring in, in short, you bring in lots of people of a different culture, and pretty soon America's culture will change.
00:11:26.000And our culture will diminish, and their culture will expand, and pretty soon we'll be looking at a country that's unrecognizable.
00:11:33.000Generally, the culture that's coming here is not only different, which is, I think, a good enough reason alone to keep it out, but it's worse.
00:11:53.000We want to protect our way of life no matter what, but not only are they coming here and changing it and altering it and making it foreign and different, but they're doing it so such that it's worse.
00:12:59.000And when they're talking about the Mexican conquest of Arizona and California, and they're talking about Aslan, is what they call it, the Mexican reconquest of the Southwest, which a lot of political activists say that America stole from them in the 19th century.
00:13:13.000This is a racial lens that they're interpreting this demographic change.
00:13:17.000And this is true, I think, for all racial groups.
00:13:19.000I think that there are meaningful differences between groups.
00:14:02.000Would you say that you would want to take action to try to, like, if you could call the shots, would you try to take action to, like, prevent the difference of culture that currently exists in the country, or just stop it from coming in?
00:14:15.000Well, first we have to stop it from coming in, and then we have to figure out what to do.
00:14:19.000And I know that sounds maybe like a cop-out, but the thing is, is that there's really no easy answers.
00:14:25.000We're going to live in a multiracial country, and multiracial means that there is no dominant or majority race.
00:14:31.000You know, white people cease to be a majority, and they will cease to be the dominant race in the country, culturally, politically, otherwise.
00:14:38.000And so we will become, meaningfully, a multiracial country.
00:14:41.000And that's going to happen no matter what, because of the birth rates and the fertility rates and everything.
00:14:46.000So we're going to have to figure out, how are we going to get along as a multiracial country?
00:14:51.000How do we govern a multiracial country?
00:14:53.000And I think a lot of that is a question mark.
00:14:55.000I think a lot of that remains to be written and remains to be seen how that's going to go.
00:15:00.000But before we can figure out, okay, it's multiracial, it's maybe 50% white and
00:15:05.000You know, 30% Hispanic and 15% Black, whatever the composition is going to be, we have to figure out how are we going to make it such that, because my big concern is all this anti-white stuff.
00:15:15.000When we transition to a multiracial country, and Democrats run the show, and it's this electorate, you know, the Democrats' constituency is Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians, largely, virtually no white people, and an ever-shrinking minority.
00:15:29.000When this new coalition is governing the country, how are they going to treat the white people?
00:15:53.000If that's how it's going to be, then everybody should be equal and everybody should be respected and everybody should have their own culture, their own thing, whatever.
00:16:26.000Yeah, I Nick I I guess I didn't I guess do a proper introduction for everybody.
00:16:30.000So yeah, everybody who's unmuted right now is a either a member of the conservative hype house or a member of the liberal hype house and well, we usually do these zooms like pretty nightly we've been doing it for a while now and You know just to come on here and debate answer questions different things like that.
00:17:32.000You have policies that are designed to benefit certain groups at the expense of others.
00:17:36.000Affirmative Action, you have the NAACP, you have CARE, the American Islamic Relations thing.
00:17:43.000You've got all these advocacy organizations and policies and programs directed at elevating non-whites.
00:17:51.000And to me, it's like you can either have that be what multiracialism looks like,
00:17:56.000And in that case, then should white people not get an advocacy group?
00:17:59.000You know, if that's the way it's going to be, and everybody's fighting for their own and their own tribe, and it's just kind of like this sort of ethnic democracy, they have something like this in Ethiopia.
00:18:09.000If that's the way it's going to be, then white people should be able to play too.
00:18:13.000Because the way it is now, what Republicans say is that, well, identity politics is wrong, but it only seems to be wrong when white people do it.
00:18:20.000Because we can have black leadership summits, we can have Hispanic leadership summits, and
00:18:25.000We can target the black vote and talk about black unemployment, but God forbid you talk about how white people are doing.
00:18:30.000You know, that's, that's, you know, white identitarians are just as bad as the left.
00:18:34.000So I think you have to have it either or you have to have all or nothing.
00:18:38.000Either everybody gets to play that game and everybody gets to have their advocacy group and fight for their interest and fight for their pie or nobody does.
00:18:45.000And if nobody does, and that means no affirmative action.
00:18:48.000That means that all the laws are applied equally.
00:18:51.000That means that there's, we're going to shut down BLM.
00:18:53.000We're going to shut down the NAACP and everything else.
00:18:56.000And to me, it seems like that latter outcome is a lot less likely because I don't think these other groups will give up.
00:19:02.000Their aspirations, their ethnic politics.
00:19:04.000So I believe that out of defense, white people have to kind of, you know, rise up and put something up equal or similar.
00:19:11.000Because, you know, you look at California or Texas and it's like white people are already becoming a minority.
00:19:16.000And what is that going to look like when they're talking about reparations?
00:19:20.000Reparations is going to look like a Democrat government with, you know, this coalition of non-white people is going to put it into power, and reparations is going to look like just taking white people's stuff.
00:19:51.000Now you see the government is legalizing
00:19:55.000Land re-appropriations where people are going to go in and take the white farmers land and take their stuff and they're killing the white South African farmers.
00:20:03.000This already happened in Rhodesia, which is now called Zimbabwe.
00:20:31.000Uh, but, uh, pretty much, I guess from my perspective on this is, um, and, and I don't have, I don't have a liberal mindset when it comes to this, actually, you know, I'm probably one of the guys that's like, you know, what, if we're going to have gay pride, then we should have straight pride.
00:20:45.000I think that we should have advocacy for both ways.
00:20:52.000However, you have to admit though that
00:20:56.000The reason why we don't have, say, I guess a white, you know, like a white political, you know, rally or whatever.
00:21:05.000Like, these are white politicians that we have in office.
00:21:08.000Look at us, you know, we've got the power kind of thing, you know, or whatever.
00:21:11.000Like, the reason why you don't have stuff like that is because we already have the majority of the politicians right now.
00:21:19.000We don't need the advocacy right now because it would be a different case if we were, say, George Bush's era and we're looking at Barack Obama becoming the first black president ever.
00:21:31.000It would be a different case if, you know, if it was the first white president ever.
00:22:15.000And the reason why it's different is because this comes down to math.
00:22:20.000You know, talking about communism rising is a social trend, you know, and it's totally different.
00:22:26.000What we're talking about is fertility rates.
00:22:28.000We're talking about the rate at which the non-white population inside the United States is growing versus the rate at which the white population is growing.
00:22:36.000And, you know, these numbers can change, obviously, but they don't tend to fluctuate wildly in short amounts of time.
00:23:13.000And the trajectory is going the same way and will go the same way into the future because
00:23:17.000The people that we're bringing in, immigrants, they have a much higher fertility rate.
00:23:22.000The fertility rate for Hispanics is going down, but it was around 2.5, I think the last numbers I saw, compared to white people where it's less than 2.
00:23:30.000So the fertility rates are as such, and immigration isn't stopping anytime soon, that this is going to happen.
00:23:36.000This is a reality that white people are going to have to live with.
00:23:39.000We're going to be a minority in 10 to 15 years.
00:23:41.000So what steps would you take to prevent that from happening?
00:24:39.000Immigrations, we could get a handle on stabilizing the country, the social fabric, the economy from just being ravaged by immigration for 70 years.
00:24:47.000But, you know, when that turn ultimately happens, as this demographic transition happens, we have to figure out how we're all going to get along, because I'm really not optimistic about where the country is headed as a result of this.
00:24:59.000Wouldn't you want America, though, to be like a safe haven for people to escape to?
00:25:04.000That's what it was for in the first place.
00:25:09.000I mean, I know there's a lot of... I understand the founding mythos about, you know, religious separatists fleeing and, you know, like the pilgrims and all of that, but...
00:25:20.000You know, the founders never intended America to just be, like, the world's refuge for poor and peasants.
00:25:26.000Like, the people that are coming here are not refugees.
00:25:29.000You know, the people that have come across the border or that are buying their way in or making anchor babies, they're not fleeing, like, persecution.
00:25:40.000It's the same thing happening in Europe.
00:25:41.000America was not built up so that people could, like, loot it, so that America could, like, or rather so that immigrants could, you know, come through and pillage all of our resources.
00:25:50.000So you're talking about mainly African Americans that would be taken over, right?
00:26:06.000So blacks are roughly 14% of the population and their share of the population will stay the same really throughout the rest of the century.
00:26:15.000But the groups that are going to expand the most are Hispanics and Asians because that's where the immigration is coming from is Latin America and increasingly Asia.
00:26:24.000So those are going to be the bigger groups.
00:26:37.000Why can't, why can we not, why can we not offer them an opportunity to be able to make money?
00:26:41.000Why can we not offer them an opportunity to be able to be in a better economic state than they were in their previous country?
00:26:47.000I mean, say I want to do that in America, say I'm failing in America but I have enough money to be able to move to Great Britain and maybe have a better opportunity there, you know?
00:26:59.000Well, because this is really an economist's way of looking at the world.
00:27:03.000You know, if we look at America as like an open market or a shopping mall or like a business, then you might say, well, you know, you might look at labor like any other economic good.
00:27:32.000And the idea that people would be coming in here and the only thing that America has to offer for the world is to give poor people from other countries jobs, I think diminishes what America means to all of us.
00:27:45.000To me, my neighborhood, because, you know, we talk about the country, but really it's about your neighborhood.
00:27:57.000It's really good for them, because they're going to come from some slum in Nicaragua, and they're going to come to my neighborhood, and suddenly they're not in a slum.
00:28:05.000They're in a nice suburb, and it's 95% white, and there's no violence and everything, and they're going to get a nice job.
00:28:12.000If the entire character of the neighborhood changes, if the demographics of the neighborhood change, it's not going to be my neighborhood anymore.
00:28:18.000You're going to see different food, different restaurants, different customs, different holidays, different everything.
00:28:24.000My kids are going to go to school and be a minority.
00:28:34.000The texture of life, which is what we love about America, will cease to exist.
00:28:38.000And that's without even... I mean, I could address the economic argument why it's terrible for our economy to bring these people in, but there's a great book called We Wanted Workers by George Borjas, and it comes from an expression from a German from 60 years ago, where he said, we wanted workers, we got people.
00:29:32.000Because even though my culture is changing, if my culture is changing, why can I not, I guess, change myself to be able to acclimate to the change?
00:29:42.000There's definitely cultural divides, but why is it a bad thing to have other cultures mixing in with ours?
00:29:49.000Or, as you call it, the culture clash.
00:29:51.000Right, like, my family comes from Italy, and I'm a white immigrant, and I don't know why someone's skin color, or someone's race, or where they come from matters whether or not they're gonna come and, like, give to the economy, get a job, you know, put into the economy, because when they get jobs, they're putting their money in, and they're spending their money, and they're putting that money into the economy, and it's circulating.
00:30:21.000What if their race is African, you know, African of descent, but they're born in America, they have the same culture as any other white American.
00:30:28.000Well, I have, I have a question that may throw everyone off a little bit, but what exactly is American culture?
00:30:35.000Which American culture are we talking about?
00:30:37.000American culture varies from region of the country to region of the country.
00:30:41.000I mean, I don't know if anyone here has had a chance to read the nine nations of North America, but like there are many distinct American cultures that exist that have evolved over the past 400 years.
00:30:53.000And to say that even amongst one race or, uh, in America that our culture is homogenous is being somewhat disingenuous in my opinion.
00:31:06.000So, I mean, if we're trying to save American culture,
00:31:11.000Which American culture are we trying to say?
00:31:14.000There's a big difference between even like you said like Southern culture and Northern culture and Western culture like in America itself and there's a lot of it and that differs between you know obviously white people too.
00:32:09.000I honestly think we're very curious, though, because I've never traveled to that part of political theory, I guess, if you want to call it that.
00:32:30.000That's a better way to respond to a difference of opinion with, you know, curiosity and, you know, inquiries than, like, you know, you're all right.
00:32:39.000But the question about culture is a valid one.
00:32:43.000It is true that there are cultures... America is a big country, and America has a lot of different populations which have been assimilated over the years, and there are regional differences, and there are all kinds of differences, but I think this fundamentally obfuscates the reality, which is that America, you know, does have a cohesive basic identity, which is to say that everybody in America speaks English.
00:33:06.000I mean, not everybody, but if we were to agree that there is a
00:33:11.000Cultural core to America, if we were to try to deduce what that is, it's speaking English.
00:33:16.000It's being Christian, frankly, and obviously there's some people that are not Christian, but even the people that are not Christian, they're brought up with biblical stories.
00:33:23.000They're brought up in a Western culture, influenced by the Bible, and they have a Christian morality.
00:33:29.000Even if they don't believe in Christianity, they're born a society shaped by it, right?
00:34:08.000So I agree that you could say that there are cultural differences across the country, but there also is a cultural core.
00:34:14.000And I know that I could say what is not American is, like, Chinese characters when you're writing, like, Mandarin.
00:34:20.000I know that what is not American is Buddhism.
00:34:22.000I know that what is not American is, you know, having your experience being the Great Leap Forward in China.
00:34:27.000I know that, you know, Islam is not a part of the American cultural core.
00:34:32.000We know what the American cultural core is.
00:34:34.000And to, you know, bring up some of these differences, while they are valid, I think it obfuscates the broader picture, which is there's sort of a continuum there.
00:34:43.000Me being an Italian from Chicago is as different from an Anglo-Virginian than I am different from somebody who lives in the Congo?
00:34:52.000Would you say that there's the same degree of difference between an Italian Midwesterner and an Anglo-Southerner than there is between me and an African or the Anglo and, you know, an African in the Congo?
00:35:04.000You know, there's a huge disparity between those two cultures and different languages and religions and customs and history and so on.
00:35:11.000And that's the clash we're talking about.
00:35:13.000But at the same time, you've also got most of the immigration that we have coming into the country are also coming from Christianized and Westernized cultures.
00:35:23.000I mean, I wouldn't exactly call most of Latin America a lack of Christianity as far as their culture.
00:35:31.000I would actually say that in a lot of ways, they're definitely more Christian than a lot of Americans are, even that practice Christianity.
00:35:59.000What we're talking about is the full boat.
00:36:02.000You know, Hispanics may practice a version of Christianity, but what is also true about Hispanics is that they're largely Catholic.
00:36:08.000I'm Catholic, of course, and there's a large contingent of Catholics in America, but we know that the American founding was characteristically Protestant, and the American population was characteristically Protestant for, you know, a hundred years after its founding, until the turn of the century brought a lot of South and Eastern Europeans over.
00:36:27.000So it's a Protestant Christian country versus Catholic.
00:36:29.000That's one difference right out of the gate.
00:36:31.000The other difference is that in a lot of Hispanic countries, you have a very pagan practice of Christianity.
00:36:37.000You know, their pagan roots go far deeper than their Christian roots.
00:36:42.000And so this is where you see a lot of cults and a lot of weird tribal type things going on.
00:36:47.000So even Christianity is very different.
00:36:50.000And, you know, this is maybe the closest population to Europeans, because obviously there's been a large degree of racial mixing because of colonialism.
00:36:58.000And obviously we brought Christianity, but even our closest relative speaks a different language, practices a different kind of Christianity, has a different historical expression of it.
00:37:07.000They were historical antagonists to America, you know, 150 years ago.
00:37:15.000I would say that, again, you can find differences between Americans and similarities between others, but again, I think this is kind of missing the forest for the trees.
00:37:22.000I think we all know what we're talking about here, that, you know, when Hispanics are coming in and taking over these neighborhoods, they look different, they sound different, the way of life is different, and those differences matter.
00:37:34.000And, you know, maybe those differences are interesting or unique, but I'd like to visit Mexico if I want to experience Mexican culture, not step outside of my door, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:45.000I find it to be somewhat interesting that you say that America was necessarily founded on Protestant Christian values when specifically the man that wrote the Declaration of Independence was an outspoken deist and contributed significantly to the Bill of Rights and the framing of the Constitution in and of itself.
00:38:09.000The theological essence behind the very first secular country to be founded in the history of the world to me is, it's extremely disingenuous because the whole reason that the country was founded without a state religion was so that there could be mixing of cultures and people could express their different cultures and their different religious beliefs in different ways.
00:38:33.000And I mean, there have been some violations along that line.
00:38:37.000We can, you know, even though I disagree with their, their faith, we can see sort of what happened to the LDS church in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
00:38:46.000Now, I think that, you know, I'm not, I'm not agreeing with their faith, but I do think that they were treated unfairly by a lot of government entities.
00:38:55.000So, I mean, to, to claim that America is a Protestant Christian nation or is even a Christian nation in and of itself is, is factually incorrect.
00:39:07.000Because we, our founders wanted to make sure that our citizens were able to practice whatever their belief systems were, as long as they were not interfering with the life, liberty, or property of another individual.
00:39:21.000So how can we frame this culture within a religious, within, you know, with religion being one aspect, if our founders didn't necessarily frame the country as a religious country overall?
00:39:48.000Well, I don't think it's disingenuous.
00:39:49.000I think it's just a different interpretation of what you mean by a country.
00:39:52.000If you think that the government is the country, then, you know, maybe that is where you might say something like that.
00:39:57.000But I think this ignores the fact that
00:40:00.000Most the vast majority of the population was Protestant Christian and I think you would find that even the founding fathers if they were deists or not they were influenced by Protestant Christian culture and British culture and
00:40:14.000And to say that, well, because the government has the separation of church and state in this doctrine, which, by the way, does not appear in the Constitution, but because of this doctrine, then that means that America is a secular country.
00:40:26.000Of course, maybe the government was intended to be secular in certain ways.
00:40:42.000You know, there's this theory that George Washington converted to Catholicism on his deathbed.
00:40:46.000You know, whether or not that's true, would we say that if it was true, if George Washington converted to Catholicism on his deathbed, that because he was the president and a framer, that America is a Catholic country?
00:40:57.000You know, we're talking about one deist who wrote the Declaration of Independence, allegedly, and the way the government is set up, versus how the population was, and how the population was for a long time.
00:41:07.000You know, the religious awakenings that happened in the country throughout the 19th and 18th centuries played a very important role in the country.
00:41:15.000Churches, Protestant and otherwise, played a very important role, and Americans' faith played a very important role in their culture and their politics for a long time.
00:41:22.000So to say that because the government lacked religious mechanisms means that America was a secular country or that the culture is not meaningfully Christian, I think that is just kind of a silly argument to make.
00:41:35.000I mean, we would certainly say that Turkey,
00:41:38.000Turkey had a secular Republican government since 1926.
00:42:33.000Anybody that has co-host powers, don't do anything.
00:42:35.000I'm gonna remove people and then I'm gonna... Yeah, it says he can't even join the waiting room.
00:42:41.000Yeah, there's over 200 people in the waiting room.
00:42:45.000and then I'm gonna go through and find him.
00:42:47.000If you manually have your hand up like this it's gonna get tired so if you do just put your flag up and like that's raising your hand and we're gonna call on you.
00:42:56.000We will try to call on you because Jesus Christ there's a lot of those.
00:43:00.000Tell Nick okay I'm sorry for the disorganization just there's a lot of people in here so tell Nick videos to sit in the waiting room.
00:43:07.000I'm gonna Reese I got it I'm gonna find him do the thing.
00:44:35.000Oh yeah, last night it was Rocket League.
00:44:39.000Like Matty said, everybody that keeps raising your hand, dog, I've literally seen people's hands turn different colors because they're holding up too high.
00:47:24.000My biggest question is, so Lance videos, you guys, you're big Libertarians, right?
00:47:31.000I'm Libertarian on a lot of stuff, but I'm Conservative on some stuff, so I wouldn't consider myself a full-fledged Libertarian or a full-fledged Conservative.
00:47:39.000So, I mean, I'm kind of in the middle.
00:47:41.000Okay, and so your biggest thing, kind of, is like, if we were a full socialist country, like Bernie Sanders socialism, like, you think the country's completely
00:47:51.000You kind of broke up, I didn't hear what you said.
00:47:57.000You think, like, the country would be over, pretty much?
00:47:59.000Is that what your kind of idea of thought is?
00:48:01.000Well, the problem... See, the thing with Bernie Sanders is that his plans are even so radical that the establishment Democrats, like in Congress, they wouldn't pass anything.
00:48:09.000So if Bernie Sanders would become president, I think that he would become a lame duck, just because any time he passed, like, an executive order, Congress would just go around him and, like, develop, like, a bill or some type of legislation that would just completely annihilate everything.
00:48:21.000I don't think that Bernie Sanders would get a lot of his radical plans done.
00:48:24.000Like controlling rent on apartments like that's I would never pass.
00:48:30.000So I think based on kind of what Nick has said, like, so demographically, like California, you said 30 years ago, it was bright red, like, like it was red every single time.
00:48:42.000Basically, with the influx of immigration, it's turned blue.
00:48:46.000Texas, I think it's 2028, is expected to go blue for a presidential race.
00:48:52.000So, as the Democratic Party is shifting even further left, why do you guys say we need more immigrants when it's obvious that about 70% of immigrants are voting Democrat, and we're gonna get a full socialist country unless we stop this?
00:49:05.000If that's what you guys are, your biggest concern.
00:49:07.000Well, first of all, Bernie isn't full socialist.
00:49:11.000At least I'm not advocating for a massive influx of immigrants, but where I disagree with America First and the Groypers is I don't think that we should set like racial quarters on immigration.
00:49:21.000I think that we should just accept like, you know, like whoever applies.
00:49:25.000I don't think... One I would say that regulates is overall immigrants.
00:49:27.000Even European immigrants vote Democrat.
00:49:31.000Yeah, I don't think that we accept far more immigrants than any other country.
00:49:35.000But again, at the same time, I don't think that we should just deport everybody like that, just to play partisan politics.
00:49:41.000It's literally estimated that deporting everybody could cost more than the war in Iraq.
00:49:45.000Yeah, I mean, I didn't say deport, I said bring in, which is net zero.
00:49:48.000Yeah, I don't think that we should just, we have so many illegals that are already here, we shouldn't keep letting in just like thousands, like hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year.
00:49:56.000How do you expect to keep the Republican party going if the immigrants are bringing in over a million by the year, our voting majority Democrat, in some states Trump won by less than 20,000 votes?
00:50:13.000A lot of the immigrants that vote mostly Democrat come from Mexico, and usually Mexico or anywhere in like Central America, South America, and Asia, Asia, like those countries there.
00:50:23.000They usually, they usually don't go to other, they don't usually go to like other states, like they usually go like California, Arizona, Texas, states like that.
00:50:37.000Texas is, if we lose Texas, it's over.
00:50:40.000Well, a big reason why Texas is also turning blue is because a ton of people from California are moving to Texas as well, just because taxes and everything in California is so high.
00:50:48.000See, this is what I think is going to happen, because I think what's going to happen is this country is going to have to end up going so far left, like what happened with the UK, and then everybody's going to have to realize, like, this shit isn't working, and then we're going to have to come back, like what's happening right now with the UK.
00:53:37.000And I'm willing to do that if that means shutting down immigration.
00:53:40.000Now, there's other reasons why we should shut down immigration, but I'm not going to say, well, we shouldn't engage in partisan politics because that is just to make us win.
00:53:49.000Look what the left does with no voter ID.
00:54:10.000So I agree with Nicholas on the fact that
00:54:13.000This is more than just, you know, I like Republicans versus Democrats.
00:54:18.000These are legit policies that's going to affect us on a wide scale, right?
00:54:22.000But what I don't understand with Nicholas is the fact that he was talking about not assimilating with other people.
00:54:28.000To me, instead of pushing parties, I think you should push policies.
00:54:31.000The only way to understand and get people to understand your policies and if it work is you actually be around people and help people.
00:54:37.000So if you're not allowing people to be around you or live around you that have different beliefs, how are they supposed to understand and gravitate towards your side?
00:54:45.000To me, that's more that grassroots movement, right?
00:55:28.000But in any case, what we're trying to do with our policies is make them appeal to non-traditional demographics.
00:55:36.000That's why we're pushing things in TikTok or on college campuses or whatever, and a lot of people that follow me or that are America First,
00:57:21.000The point, I'm not saying they should have to or anything like that.
00:57:24.000I'm saying that even in the case of Blacks and Whites who have been on this continent for 500 years together, and obviously, you know, Blacks came here under different circumstances than White people, but nevertheless, you know, Blacks have been on this continent with White people for 500 years, and, you know, they're not perfectly assimilated in the same way that anybody else is.
00:57:47.000Assimilation on a large scale is a much bigger ask than people think it is.
00:57:52.000People think it's like, oh well, you know, you watch Netflix and you buy Nike, therefore you're assimilated.
00:57:58.000But even today, race relations between blacks and whites has not been repaired, and it's not totally together, and they don't have a complete and total monoculture.
00:58:06.000And it's, you know, all of that is to demonstrate that