America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Nick Fuentes on The Conservative Values Zoom Call (Part 2)

00:00:00.000 Appreciate this.

00:00:01.000 If you look at any research on what non-whites believe about the Constitution, the majority of non-whites do not believe that we should have the right to bear arms. 0.95

00:00:10.000 The majority of non-whites believe that there should be hate speech legislation.

00:00:13.000 The majority of non-whites believe that we should have an interpretation of the Constitution which is not an originalist interpretation. 0.71

00:00:20.000 In other words, we should add things on or reinterpret it.

00:00:23.000 Now, not obviously every single non-white person believes that, but the majority of them do. 0.98

00:00:28.000 And the majority of whites believe the opposite.

00:00:30.000 And so those kinds of attitudes shape the kind of country you live in.

00:00:34.000 The agreement on having a bill of rights, the agreement on having freedom of speech, or the right to bear arms, or a constitution that is lasting and enduring and keeps its meaning through the generations, you know, that is like a meaningful difference.

00:00:46.000 So yeah, sure, maybe people in California

00:00:49.000 Like, uh, West Coast rap, and people in New York City like Wu-Tang Clan or Nas, you know, whatever.

00:00:55.000 But they speak English, and they vote, and they believe in the... Broadly speaking, they believe in the Constitution and so on.

00:01:01.000 Obviously, there's liberals, you know, in every racial group, but the big picture stuff is the core that must be maintained to have a cohesive and orderly and stable country.

00:01:10.000 I do have a very important point.

00:01:13.000 I want to bring up one point though.

00:01:15.000 And that's about the American culture.

00:01:19.000 The one American culture that... So just because those people generally don't always have the same viewpoints as white people, does that necessarily mean that they're wrong?

00:01:28.000 I mean, I agree with what you're saying.

00:01:30.000 Like, I agree with that they're wrong.

00:01:32.000 Like, who's the...

00:01:36.000 Maybe not specifically with those examples, because a lot of them are defined in the Constitution, but just because they have differing opinions, just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that they're wrong.

00:01:43.000 I agree with the standpoints you're getting at, but I'm just wondering.

00:01:46.000 Well, it's not necessarily a question of whether they're wrong.

00:01:49.000 It's just a question of how we're going to have a population that will perpetuate the kind of country that we want to live in.

00:01:58.000 You know, obviously there are all kinds of people that are, you know, white liberals are against the Second Amendment.

00:02:03.000 White liberals are against free speech in some cases.

00:02:06.000 But the question is, you know, if America is to remain America, we cannot bring in populations that are biased in favor of things that are against America.

00:02:16.000 You know, the people that are coming from Asia and Latin America, why do you think it is that they are in favor of government?

00:02:22.000 Do you think they're coming here just to vote?

00:02:25.000 Well, no, but they're going to vote, and they're tending to vote.

00:02:28.000 Not that they're coming here just to vote.

00:02:30.000 I want to ask you something.

00:02:33.000 You said you brought up that stuff about how the non-whites generally are against the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and the original writing of the Constitution.

00:02:40.000 What's your solution to that?

00:02:41.000 Just deporting them all and just creating a white ethnostate? 0.99

00:02:44.000 I mean, like, how are you going to, like, you can't just, like, change their culture.

00:02:49.000 I mean, what they believe is what they believe.

00:02:51.000 See, this is the problem.

00:02:52.000 The problem is, you diagnose the problem, and because it makes people uncomfortable, they like to say, oh, well, so what?

00:02:58.000 Genocide?

00:02:59.000 Oh, so what?

00:03:00.000 Ethnic cleansing? 0.65

00:03:01.000 No.

00:03:01.000 The point is to acknowledge the problem.

00:03:04.000 We as conservatives, why are the alarm bells not going off?

00:03:08.000 Why is it not sirens blaring for us as conservatives that

00:03:11.000 Millions of people are pouring into the country that are voting against us.

00:03:15.000 They're replacing us. 0.92

00:03:16.000 They're taking over states that are our electoral strongholds.

00:03:20.000 And if that continues to happen, Democrats will become an unstoppable force.

00:03:24.000 It'll be a one party state and they'll crush everything we love.

00:03:28.000 And people are saying, well, but so what are we supposed to do?

00:03:31.000 Deport everybody?

00:03:32.000 It's like, no, we don't have to deport everybody, but we have to start thinking about these things and beginning to come up with

00:03:39.000 solution or an answer or strategy starts with acknowledging what's happening.

00:03:42.000 So, you know, that's been my whole life.

00:03:44.000 As I'm over here saying, isn't anybody worried about the fact that Texas is going blue?

00:03:48.000 Isn't anybody worried about the fact that what's happening to Texas and Florida and Nevada is what happened in California?

00:03:54.000 And like, we're never going to win again, and we're going to lose everything we love.

00:03:57.000 And people have told me, well, you know, even if it is, it's racist to acknowledge it, or the solution must be necessarily bad, or X, Y, and Z.

00:04:05.000 We as conservatives must grapple with these things and try to figure out how we're going to survive in this new America that we've created.

00:04:12.000 One thing that stuck out to me was you said us.

00:04:15.000 You keep saying us.

00:04:16.000 I'm just kind of like wondering, who is us?

00:04:18.000 Because you, when you refer to us, you refer to us as in like America, but as if we're like a Republican America, but not everybody in America is Republican.

00:04:27.000 And while I am a conservative Republican, and I believe in a lot of the same values as you, I don't necessarily think that we should suppress the people who have opposing views.

00:04:35.000 I'm talking about we, the traditional American nation.

00:04:38.000 And here's the problem is, I think we've conflated maybe large disagreements with small disagreements.

00:04:43.000 You know, America's obviously been a democracy and been liberal and pluralistic and so on.

00:04:48.000 But what we all agreed on, even Republicans and Democrats a hundred years ago, is stuff that is now the subject of disagreement.

00:04:56.000 You know, we're not talking about should we spend more money now in the government or less money.

00:05:00.000 We're not talking about tax policy.

00:05:02.000 I mean, in some cases we are, but what the Democrats are talking about is we want to have a country that's not white, not Christian, doesn't speak English. 0.88

00:05:10.000 Like, they don't agree on the fundamentals.

00:05:11.000 And so the question is, if we don't agree on the fundamentals, then why be a country?

00:05:15.000 Why would we all stick together as a country if you want a way of life and a vision that is mutually exclusive and incompatible with the country that I want to live in?

00:05:23.000 No one's advocating for us to start doing that on a wide scale.

00:05:42.000 Are you kidding?

00:05:43.000 You also said Democrats are for illegal immigration or open borders.

00:05:47.000 Not a single Democrat running is for that.

00:05:49.000 You're wrong about that.

00:05:50.000 You're completely wrong about that.

00:05:52.000 Most of the Democratic nominees for president wanted to make illegal immigration not illegal.

00:05:56.000 You can look it up.

00:05:57.000 You can look at Chuy Garcia.

00:05:58.000 He sponsored legislation in January.

00:06:00.000 You're just wrong about that.

00:06:02.000 He was for decriminalizing it, still keeping it illegal.

00:06:04.000 Okay, so he's gonna decriminalize.

00:06:07.000 Okay, so that's a nice technicality there.

00:06:09.000 Can I ask why you keep bringing up the point of being white so much? 0.65

00:06:13.000 Can I ask that?

00:06:14.000 Why are you bringing up the point of being white so much?

00:06:16.000 I'm actually not bringing it up.

00:06:18.000 I think it's everyone else that's bringing it up.

00:06:21.000 The word white has come out of your mouth more times than anyone else.

00:06:25.000 Because we're descriptively talking about populations.

00:06:27.000 What happens is it's white and non-white demographics. 0.65

00:06:31.000 All right.

00:06:32.000 Let me ask, let me ask this real quick.

00:06:33.000 So you're talking about just going back to immigration.

00:06:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:06:37.000 Um, are you, obviously I get that you're not saying deport everybody, right?

00:06:40.000 I get that.

00:06:41.000 You're very adamant about that.

00:06:42.000 So I understand that.

00:06:43.000 Um, and I'm not for that either, but are you wanting to do something kind of almost similar towards the Chinese exclusion act almost back when we had that kind of for almost a lot of other countries or just kind of say, all right, look, we need to stop immigration real quick. 0.87

00:06:57.000 Figure out what we gotta do and then reopen it?

00:06:59.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:07:00.000 Yeah, just no more immigration.

00:07:02.000 You know, not directed at any particular group, but we just don't need any more immigrants for a variety of reasons. 1.00

00:07:06.000 So, just period.

00:07:10.000 Noted.

00:07:10.000 Thank you.

00:07:11.000 Yeah.

00:07:12.000 So Luke looks like so awkward on that page.

00:07:17.000 I guess I'll real quick.

00:07:19.000 So Nick, I know you, Nicholas, cause I'll make sure I get Nick videos.

00:07:24.000 Love you Nick.

00:07:25.000 Um, but, uh, Nicholas, uh, my question to you, man, is you keep saying we need to have like a monolith type or just a monoculture.

00:07:32.000 The problem with that is in the beginning, if it was more monoculture, black people weren't treated the same and that was done by Protestant Christians.

00:07:40.000 So I guess my question to you is, if it wasn't for people with opposing views, then we'd probably still be slaves given that same atmosphere and how everything was constructed and interpreted in the beginning of that constitution.

00:07:54.000 So at what point are you taking, what are you saying that's being interpreted wrong?

00:07:58.000 And at what point will you say we went too far with the constitutional rights?

00:08:02.000 I guess I'm trying to get at, and how do we fit in without us being marginalized through Jim Crow laws and everything for the last 300 years?

00:08:10.000 Well, I'll say on the question of slavery that it was actually white civilization which was unique. 0.91

00:08:16.000 I think that every people and every civilization had slavery.

00:08:20.000 You know, the indigenous Americans, Muslims, even sub-Saharan Africans.

00:08:25.000 I mean, everyone had slavery.

00:08:26.000 But what was unique is that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and Christianity actually paved the way for the abolition of slavery.

00:08:34.000 And that's one of those things that is unique about Western white civilization that everybody shares in the advantage of this the whole world and even the people in the country and what's different and then that's actually a great point that you brought up because one of the main differences of these other people is 0.94

00:08:48.000 They lack those foundations that would have led to something like that.

00:08:52.000 I think the opposite is true.

00:08:53.000 I think the opposite is true that if we had had the attitudes of other civilizations, we would have never had freedom on the scale that we had or liberated people around the world.

00:09:03.000 So I think it's actually quite the opposite.

00:09:05.000 The people that are coming over, like Asians and Latin Americans, I think if anybody is more prone to regress in terms of humanitarianism or barbarism, 1.00

00:09:15.000 I think it would be these other populations coming over.

00:09:17.000 The only place where slavery still exists, or one of the only, I mean obviously exists everywhere, but on a massive scale is North Africa, is Libya in particular because of regime change, but that's another subject.

00:09:28.000 But the places where you still have slavery are the third world, and it's those cultures that we're bringing in. 0.86

00:09:33.000 That's an example of a big disagreement.

00:09:35.000 We can disagree about

00:09:37.000 Okay, guys, y'all recorded it, right?

00:09:38.000 He just said he wasn't racist.

00:10:08.000 I'm Christian, I love everybody.

00:10:11.000 Alright, let's get another question.

00:10:14.000 Let's go second page.

00:10:17.000 Go to Ravioli.

00:10:19.000 His name was Nick Fuentes, however you say it, but 2020 at the end.

00:10:26.000 He was in the Discord saying he wanted to talk.

00:10:28.000 I know Ravioli has had her hand up for a while. 1.00

00:10:30.000 Yeah, I'm gonna go to Ravioli, she's had her hand up for a while.

00:10:34.000 You are unmuted.

00:10:37.000 Okay, hi.

00:10:39.000 So I'm going to try and make this as quick as possible.

00:10:41.000 I understand your views.

00:10:43.000 I understand where you're coming from.

00:10:45.000 But if we just block immigration completely, we're banning a lot of good people from coming in. 0.99

00:10:51.000 I'm not saying all of them are good, but for example, my dad, he's retired Navy.

00:10:57.000 My uncle, he's a bioengineer.

00:11:00.000 My aunt, she's a nurse.

00:11:02.000 And I live in California, right?

00:11:03.000 It's very diverse.

00:11:04.000 But almost all of the immigrant families that I know,

00:11:08.000 are in a good job that benefit our society, like a doctor, or a lawyer, or in the Navy.

00:11:14.000 Like, there's a lot of immigrants benefiting our country.

00:11:19.000 And I understand, I understand where you're coming from.

00:11:22.000 But if you ban immigration, you're also banning people coming in from changing America for the better. 0.99

00:11:30.000 And I agree with, I forgot who said it earlier, but America, I believe, was made for people to come in to find refuge.

00:11:37.000 I don't think I'm making sense.

00:11:39.000 I might be making sense.

00:11:43.000 I don't know.

00:11:45.000 I understand your question.

00:11:46.000 It's a valid question.

00:11:47.000 It's a good question.

00:11:49.000 But the question is, who is America for?

00:11:51.000 And, you know, why do we have a country?

00:11:53.000 Because what I'm hearing in a lot of these questions is the presupposition that, and I understand, but it's the perspective of the outsider, the foreigner, well,

00:12:04.000 You know, what about these good foreigners, these good people from other countries who come here and make America better?

00:12:09.000 What about people who want a job in America?

00:12:11.000 But I'm sitting here, and that's why it's called America First, wondering, what about the good people in America?

00:12:16.000 What about the people in America and what's good for them?

00:12:19.000 And so certainly if we shut down immigration, there would be people deprived of opportunity or good people coming over here.

00:12:25.000 But what's lost on a lot of people is that

00:12:28.000 One argument that is made, and this is an example, is they will say that if you increase immigration, then GDP goes up.

00:12:34.000 If you increase immigration, then the economy grows bigger and everybody's better off. 0.99

00:12:39.000 But what they don't point out is that these numbers are actually different.

00:12:43.000 That's the whole pie.

00:12:45.000 But when we look at the natives versus the immigrants, the people that benefit and create that net benefit from immigration are the immigrants themselves. 0.61

00:12:53.000 What is involved in that increase in value and that transfer is that the native population gets poorer while the immigrants get richer. 0.98

00:13:03.000 And I don't think it's right that the government is looking out for the interests and the benefit of immigrants or foreigners instead of our own people.

00:13:10.000 Because, you know, while people may come over here and do a lot of great things, you have to understand that there's a finite number of jobs.

00:13:16.000 And so when you bring workers over here and bring labor over here, wages go down.

00:13:20.000 That's one example.

00:13:22.000 Is it a good government that says we will sacrifice the interest of our own people for the benefit of people in another country?

00:13:31.000 Let those governments look out for their people.

00:13:34.000 Why doesn't Mexico look out for Mexico's people? 0.99

00:13:36.000 Why does our government look out for Mexico's people when their government doesn't?

00:13:40.000 Who's looking out for us?

00:13:42.000 And that's where I come at it from.

00:13:43.000 Wait, real quick though.

00:13:45.000 Isn't it when, so let's say you're talking about immigrants.

00:13:48.000 If an immigrant comes over here legally and is deemed a U.S.

00:13:50.000 citizen, isn't it then they're American, right?

00:13:53.000 So if they're getting jobs or whatnot, isn't America still technically looking after their own people?

00:13:59.000 Well, I mean, I think that's sort of a technical way to look at it.

00:14:03.000 I mean, if somebody comes over here and they have a baby, they become a naturalized U.S.

00:14:08.000 citizen because of birthright citizenship.

00:14:11.000 I mean, is that really, like, a fair way to say that they're an American?

00:14:14.000 I mean, does citizenship equate with, you know, American identity?

00:14:18.000 If somebody has their baby— I'm not talking about, like, a legal immigrant.

00:14:21.000 I mean, if you're raised as a child.

00:14:22.000 Raised as a child.

00:14:23.000 I'm talking about in that moment.

00:14:24.000 I'm talking about somebody that goes through the immigration, right? 0.78

00:14:27.000 The immigration process, actually.

00:14:29.000 Like, you could say a legal immigrant.

00:14:31.000 In a legal sense, but the point would remain the same.

00:14:32.000 But the point would remain the same.

00:14:34.000 That the native population that is already here and has been, you know, if we're talking about from a point zero, you've got a person who is here.

00:14:51.000 And an immigrant, you know, we're talking about the end result, but every immigrant comes from another country. 1.00

00:14:56.000 So, I mean, they may come from another country and benefit at the expense of a native, but, I mean, does that mean that, oh, well, everybody's better off? 0.98

00:15:02.000 I mean, no.

00:15:03.000 The person that was a native and in the country and an American lost, and the person that came over from somewhere else and, you know, then they got naturalized and so on, they won, but does that make it any less different that one is a foreigner and one is a native? 0.57

00:15:14.000 I mean, you could say that after a million years that's the case, but what matters after a million years?

00:15:19.000 So, out of curiosity, you mentioned that legal immigrants come and they're successful and that could take away from American citizens.

00:15:28.000 Do you think that could have anything to do with legal immigrants working harder than American citizens?

00:15:36.000 No, and I'm not even talking about individual cases.

00:15:40.000 I'm just talking generally that, you know, we're not talking about, well, they're going to get advancement.

00:15:45.000 I'm saying that if you look at labor economics, it's very simple supply and demand stuff.

00:15:50.000 The more that you have of something, the less it is worth.

00:15:53.000 You know, this is supply and demand.

00:15:54.000 And labor, like any other good, is subject to the laws of supply and demand.

00:15:58.000 The more labor that you have, the bigger the supply, the lower the price.

00:16:03.000 In other words, the lower the wage.

00:16:04.000 And just think about a very simple example.

00:16:07.000 Walmart and Target have to compete for a small number of workers.

00:16:11.000 How are they going to compete for a small number of workers? 0.91

00:16:14.000 They're going to offer higher wages.

00:16:15.000 Well, if you work for us, I'll give you benefits.

00:16:17.000 If you work for us, I'll pay a higher hourly wage.

00:16:20.000 What if there are so many workers that Walmart and Target have more than enough to go around?

00:16:26.000 Well, they're going to lower wages. 0.89

00:16:28.000 They're going to say, oh, you don't like your job?

00:16:30.000 You're totally expendable.

00:16:31.000 There's a hundred people waiting in line for your job.

00:16:33.000 And that's essentially what has happened to both high- and low-skilled workers in this country for 50 years, is that all workers have become expendable.

00:16:40.000 Because if a company thinks they can get an advantage, they will import workers, high- or low-skilled, to take American jobs.

00:16:47.000 And that is why you have low wages.

00:16:50.000 That is why

00:16:51.000 Middle class is shrinking. 0.99

00:16:52.000 So it's not necessarily about working harder or not.

00:16:54.000 It's just a matter of, you know, having a limited number of jobs and supply and demand.

00:16:59.000 So I would like to point something out with that.

00:17:03.000 I'm a farmer.

00:17:03.000 I grew up on a farm.

00:17:04.000 I now work in politics.

00:17:07.000 Growing up on a... Do you know the percentage that the average American spends on their food a year?

00:17:15.000 No.

00:17:17.000 Based on a percentage of their income?

00:17:18.000 I don't have the exact document, but we pay a lower percentage of our income on food, just on basic necessities than any other country in the developed world.

00:17:29.000 Now, part of that is because we have laborers that are willing to do things for cheaper.

00:17:37.000 And just coming from the perspective of a farmer, it's a lot easier to hire someone and a lot better off for

00:17:45.000 The business of the farmer and for the American people, so they aren't spending as much of their money on their food to hire someone that may be here with a green card to come and harvest a crop or help take care of a crop versus a man $15 an hour for the same amount of work.

00:18:07.000 So, I mean, to say that it's actually hurting America, I can actually see where economically that

00:18:14.000 Decreasing the amount of immigrants and the amount of people that are here working, holding green cards would end up hurting America more because of the amount of cost increases that it would create. 0.98

00:18:25.000 Not to mention if we have most businesses, if they have to increase wages, they're just going to modernize and put in kiosks or, you know, other ways to limit unskilled labor to where they don't have to raise the, you know, they don't have to

00:18:43.000 Uh, increase their costs on their customers so they can continue providing that good or service.

00:18:48.000 So I guess my point here is that I can see your point, but I can also see where your point becomes invalid when we start discussing the modernization of industry and how technology comes into play as well.

00:19:03.000 Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because agriculture is really interesting to me.

00:19:09.000 Agriculture is, you know, a lot of people I would say, and maybe you could tell me if this is right or wrong, but I know people that work in agriculture and will work in politics and they deal with agriculture.

00:19:19.000 And they tell me that, you know, the perception of farmers in America is like Farmer Brown, tending to his fields, and generally farming is a lot of factory farming and major industry, big business type stuff.

00:19:31.000 There's no such thing as a factory farm.

00:19:33.000 Okay, right.

00:19:34.000 There's high-density agriculture, but there is no such thing as a factory farm.

00:19:38.000 Got it, okay.

00:19:39.000 So you just have like big industrial, big holdings, conglomerates, but right, we quibble with the language.

00:19:45.000 But in any case, the point being is we're talking about farmers.

00:19:48.000 We're not talking about like a farmer with a small plot of land and so on.

00:19:52.000 I mean, we're talking about big business.

00:19:55.000 85% of farms in this country are owned by

00:19:58.000 By family.

00:19:59.000 They are family farms.

00:20:01.000 I mean, who is not in a family?

00:20:02.000 Everybody's a family.

00:20:03.000 No, but, like, they might supply to somebody, but half those things, like, they're just, like, really, like, family-oriented.

00:20:09.000 Like, you got the cousins and whatnot there.

00:20:11.000 Ain't no, like, big old Amazon of farming. 0.99

00:20:13.000 Those don't exist.

00:20:14.000 So, you know, does agriculture have a massive lobby?

00:20:18.000 Does agriculture get massive subsidies?

00:20:20.000 Or is that not true?

00:20:23.000 Unfortunately, they do get subsidies as a form of price control.

00:20:26.000 Is that because of lobbying?

00:20:28.000 Is that because of big agriculture lobbying?

00:20:29.000 Well, I mean, that came in under the Roosevelt administration because the price of corn dropped so low.

00:20:34.000 Well, you have to, right?

00:20:35.000 I don't necessarily agree with subsidies.

00:20:37.000 I don't have a lobbyist.

00:20:39.000 My family doesn't have a lobbyist.

00:20:40.000 Well, neither do I. Because we raise chickens and apples.

00:20:44.000 Your industry has a lobbyist.

00:20:46.000 All industries have a lobbyist.

00:20:48.000 Gotcha.

00:20:48.000 The point I'm trying to make is that agriculture is one of the biggest fat cats that there is.

00:20:53.000 And a lot of conservatives like to talk about, you know, the farmer and all this kind of stuff, or even things like welfare or whatever, bailouts, but agriculture is one of the biggest fat cats, one of the biggest beneficiaries of welfare in the country in the form of subsidies.

00:21:07.000 They have big lobbyists.

00:21:09.000 And I just want to point that out because a lot of people like to say that, well, oh no, it's this sort of idyllic, like pastoral thing.

00:21:15.000 It's not that way.

00:21:16.000 Oh, it's anything but idyllic.

00:21:18.000 Okay.

00:21:19.000 Especially not politically, is the point.

00:21:21.000 And when you're talking about workers, when you're talking about illegal farm workers...

00:21:27.000 You're talking about probably the biggest incidence of migrants taking American jobs.

00:21:32.000 You're talking about lower costs, but what does this come at the price of?

00:21:36.000 Primarily and firstly, like you said, it comes at the cost of American workers.

00:21:39.000 We could pay Americans a higher wage to do the jobs that illegals do, but farmers would like to pay a lower wage and often break the law and hire illegals to do the same job. 0.98

00:21:49.000 And I understand there's visas and there's all kinds of things that have been done

00:21:52.000 to help them cut corners but agriculture is one of the it's one of the biggest hypocrisies that and I hear all this kind of stuff from and I know because I was in politics from Republicans that are against welfare and they're constitutionalists but agriculture gets all this welfare and they hire illegals and by the way though the cost isn't just in terms of jobs that that's one of the best examples of you could hire Americans for a higher wage but instead you hire foreigners for a lower wage and maybe you save a little bit maybe the Americans save a little bit 0.55

00:22:20.000 I'd prefer to pay a little bit more and have Americans working, but even beyond that, the cost is greater. 0.75

00:22:26.000 Did you know, you ever hear the story about Molly Tibbetts?

00:22:29.000 Molly Tibbetts was... 1.00

00:22:30.000 A young girl, I think she was 19 years old in Iowa, and she was murdered by an illegal immigrant, chopped up. 0.89

00:22:36.000 And it turned out that that illegal immigrant, it was very much similar to Kate Steinle, the illegal immigrant that killed her was working in a dairy plant. 0.79

00:22:43.000 And that dairy plant that he worked at was owned by one of the biggest donors to the Republican Party in Iowa.

00:22:50.000 And to me, that is a horrible tragedy.

00:22:52.000 But that is a perfect example of what is going on in the Republican Party and everything that I oppose.

00:22:57.000 Because certainly these people that they're bringing in,

00:22:59.000 So it does definitely go towards the American consumer.

00:23:17.000 We wanted people to pick our berries.

00:23:18.000 We wanted people to work in the fields.

00:23:20.000 We wanted people to work in the dairy plant.

00:23:23.000 But we didn't get workers.

00:23:24.000 We got people.

00:23:25.000 We got people that are bringing drugs. 0.61

00:23:27.000 Like Donald Trump said, they're bringing drugs.

00:23:28.000 They're bringing crime. 1.00

00:23:30.000 They're rapists. 0.86

00:23:31.000 And by the way, I don't think the economic cost is justified. 0.98

00:23:34.000 I don't think any of the cost is justified.

00:23:36.000 How about instead of bringing over migrant workers, 1.00

00:23:39.000 We could say we will not bring over murderers or drug dealers or rapists or even just straight-up workers.

00:23:44.000 We'll hire American people and we'll pay a little bit more. 1.00

00:23:47.000 I would be fine with paying a little bit more.

00:23:49.000 America is a rich country.

00:23:51.000 We are a wealthy country.

00:23:52.000 And we need to start looking out for our producers and our workers and not just the consumers.

00:23:57.000 Because that's a big problem with conservative economics.

00:23:59.000 This is primarily concerned with the consumers.

00:24:01.000 Never mind all these towns that have been destroyed in the heartland of the country because the factories and manufacturing has gone overseas.

00:24:09.000 Forget about that.

00:24:10.000 We need cheap LCDs.

00:24:11.000 We want cheap televisions.

00:24:12.000 Well, you know, tell all the people that are killing themselves or dying of opioids because their town was hollowed out and destroyed that it was worth it because now I can go and buy a 52-inch TV for $300.

00:24:23.000 I don't think it's worth it.

00:24:25.000 And that's what we have to talk about is trade-offs.

00:24:27.000 But I would also counter that by saying, you know, like I said, I grew up on a farm.

00:24:31.000 I grew up in a farming community.

00:24:33.000 And I honestly have yet to see any large number

00:24:55.000 of immigrant or someone that, a migrant worker that was actually not better well behaved than most Americans.

00:25:03.000 Because as part of, you know, us keeping some of these, uh, green card holders in our employ, we provide them with a place to live and they would keep that place spotless. 1.00

00:25:14.000 And, you know, there was hardly any ever, I mean, I don't even think we ever had any incidents of drug use.

00:25:21.000 I think the most that, uh,

00:25:23.000 We could ever say is sometimes I had a few too many beers, but that's just anyone.

00:25:28.000 So, I mean, I think that you're talking about an overwhelming minority of, uh, people when they immigrate, and this is not so much focused towards people that are illegal as it is people that come here legally by saying that they're bringing crime with them.

00:25:45.000 And, you know, I, I do, and I mean, I do take issue with some of the things that you.

00:25:51.000 Have said about agriculture because there are a lot of farmers that would not be able to function without some of the government programs because you have to have crop insurance if your crop fails.

00:26:00.000 Otherwise you lose thousands of acres of land.

00:26:03.000 Now, you know, do I think that other things should be subsidized?

00:26:07.000 No, but we do have to, our food supply is a, a national security issue because if we do not have a decent affordable food supply,

00:26:19.000 That's the first thing that can lead to some sort of revolution or some sort of uprising.

00:26:24.000 Not importing a population of barbarians from across the border? 0.99

00:26:27.000 That's... I mean, I understand what you're saying, but... The Cato Institute did a study, and they found that if we take away, like, them crossing the border thing, like, they commit, like, less crimes than natural-born citizens once they're here. 0.99

00:26:39.000 They commit crimes at a lower rate.

00:26:40.000 That's not true.

00:26:41.000 Yes, it is true.

00:26:42.000 It's just Arizona.

00:26:42.000 Which are not multicultural areas.

00:27:12.000 You know, you look at it, and even like Amnesty International, our government, they will tell you that the rape rate on the border is like 70%.

00:27:21.000 Of women illegally crossing the border, 70% of them get raped.

00:27:24.000 And like, who's doing the raping down there? 0.98

00:27:27.000 It's coyotes, it's illegal immigrants, and the crime rate is spiking in Arizona and California, all over, and it's because of illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:27:36.000 And you know, maybe you live on a farm or something, but I live a little bit outside of Chicago.

00:27:40.000 And I can tell you that you don't want to be caught in certain neighborhoods after dark in Chicago.

00:27:45.000 And these are the people who are bringing over.

00:27:46.000 And you could say that, well, the farmer ones, you know, they're much more well-behaved.

00:27:50.000 But I can assure you that anybody who lives near one of these neighborhoods could tell you and paint a very different picture of a different standard of living and a different quality of life.

00:27:59.000 Okay, so listen, you know, you want to talk about like, and I take, you know, I take, uh, you know, a lot of, I guess, it pertains to me a lot more, I guess is what I'm trying to say, but because I live in a town where our university in town, I could get a minority scholarship to go to that university, you know?

00:28:20.000 And so, does that necessarily mean that just because I live in a town where I am the minority, does that make me upset?

00:28:27.000 Does that make me feel left out?

00:28:30.000 Does that make me feel like I don't belong?

00:28:33.000 Or does that make me feel like I should be scared?

00:28:36.000 No, because truth be told, what it comes down to is you're going to have crime centralized in areas because whenever crime begins to come on and like, I guess, wave on each other, you know, it comes in waves.

00:28:50.000 It comes in, you know, big groups.

00:28:53.000 And so it's not necessarily that it comes with culture.

00:28:56.000 It's not necessarily that it becomes, you know, where it comes with a race.

00:28:59.000 It comes with each other.

00:29:01.000 Crime does not see culture.

00:29:03.000 Crime does not see race.

00:29:05.000 That is the opposite of true.

00:29:07.000 Have you ever heard of a book called The Color of Crime?

00:29:09.000 No, I've never heard of it.

00:29:12.000 There's a great book called The Color of Crime, and it explores this, that there are wild disparities in crime rates based on race.

00:29:18.000 And I would also add, and you could check that out, you know, Table 42 of FBI Crime Statistics will show you the disproportionality in violent crimes committed by whites versus non-white groups, but I would even expand it even further if we're talking about immigration,

00:29:32.000 And look at the crime rates in these countries where the people are coming from. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Look at the crime rate in Mexico.

00:29:37.000 Look what happened in Culiacán.

00:29:39.000 Does anybody remember that last year in Culiacán when the whole city exploded because of the drug cartels?

00:29:45.000 And by the way, that's not just one city.

00:29:47.000 That's Mexico, that's Nicaragua, that's Honduras, Guatemala, that's Brazil.

00:29:52.000 Do we think that it is a coincidence that this is the case, number one?

00:29:55.000 And then number two,

00:29:57.000 No one said they're magically not violent.

00:29:58.000 Well, just because they come from a violent country doesn't mean they're violent people.

00:30:13.000 The drug cartels.

00:30:15.000 I have a question.

00:30:16.000 I'm honestly going to have to jump here.

00:30:18.000 The drug cartels are the violent people.

00:30:19.000 People from other countries have different standards of what's considered okay, so of course they're going to be dealing with more.

00:30:25.000 Yeah, that's exactly.

00:30:29.000 These countries have groomed a different type of society and a different type of freedom in the sense that they allow more to happen.

00:30:37.000 Yeah, but why do you think that is, though?

00:30:39.000 Why do you think this is?

00:30:40.000 I mean, we can talk about- It's not because they're Mexican! 0.98

00:30:44.000 Of course it is!

00:30:45.000 Of course it is!

00:30:46.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly!

00:30:47.000 But I'm getting to the point of-

00:31:05.000 And I would believe you if there was one country that was like this.

00:31:10.000 One country that was violent, you know.

00:31:12.000 But, I mean, we're talking about the universality of this experience.

00:31:15.000 We're talking about a pattern of behavior.

00:31:16.000 The universality that every race that's not white and every culture that's not white is? 0.64

00:31:21.000 No, no.

00:31:21.000 See, now you're eating into it.

00:31:23.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:31:24.000 I'm not eating into anything.

00:31:25.000 The truth is, the only race that you have not claimed that this happens to is Asians and whites.

00:31:34.000 Because that's the only races that it doesn't happen to.

00:31:36.000 So do you think it's genetic?

00:31:39.000 Do you think that races are genetically predisposed to commit more crimes?

00:31:43.000 Yes!

00:31:44.000 This is uncontroversial.

00:31:46.000 This is uncontroversial.

00:31:50.000 One person talking at a time, guys.

00:31:52.000 And here, if you're confused about this, let me explain.

00:31:55.000 First of all, let's think in terms of what we know.

00:31:59.000 All of Sub-Saharan Africa. 0.87

00:32:00.000 Can we point to a single success story?

00:32:02.000 No. 0.91

00:32:03.000 Every country in Sub-Saharan Africa is violent, poor, corrupt, anarchic. 0.99

00:32:08.000 Nobody would want to be there.

00:32:09.000 Well, a lot of that's because of imperialism.

00:32:12.000 Excuse me, Haiti is the same way.

00:32:14.000 Jamaica is the same way.

00:32:16.000 Detroit is the same way.

00:32:17.000 The south side of Chicago is the same way.

00:32:19.000 Now we could point to, oh well, but this time it was this or that time it was that, but the experience is the same across the world.

00:32:25.000 It's across the world in different areas, in different economic categories, and depending on different historical factors.

00:32:33.000 Are we supposed to believe that, well, because of a conspiracy of random events, these people are just not well off everywhere they reside?

00:32:43.000 And is this the same with Latin Americans? 0.71

00:32:45.000 No one claims these are random events.

00:32:47.000 What we are claiming is the fact that crime flows no matter who it is.

00:32:52.000 Hold on.

00:32:52.000 That's not true.

00:32:53.000 Crime flows in large areas.

00:32:55.000 Hey, Topher really gotta say something.

00:32:56.000 I would love to.

00:32:57.000 I would love to.

00:32:58.000 I would love for you to prove to me why you're making the claim right now that crime goes with race.

00:33:04.000 Like, these people are poor.

00:33:05.000 Genetically.

00:33:05.000 I mean, what is written in their genetics?

00:33:07.000 Like, it's born in their genetics.

00:33:08.000 Like, yes, I'm just going to... I'm born for crime.

00:33:11.000 It's the way they're... Because I'm in this culture and I'm in this race, I'm born into it.

00:33:15.000 You know what Topher's got to say.

00:33:17.000 Hold on.

00:33:17.000 What, Topher?

00:33:18.000 What's the talk?

00:33:19.000 What, Topher?

00:33:20.000 Topher, speak.

00:33:20.000 I was laughing.

00:33:22.000 Okay, so... Oh, my God.

00:33:23.000 You know, that had to be the most racist thing I heard in a long time.

00:33:31.000 True.

00:33:32.000 I get what you're saying.

00:33:33.000 Um, uh, I just, I just have to question you here.

00:33:36.000 So we're just going to ignore the whole Jim Crow, right? 0.87

00:33:40.000 So we ain't gonna look back on doing that time period when black people were not committing the most crimes, but it was actually white people murdering, killing, lynching, throwing, feeding babies to alligators, going up and burning down Tulsa, Oklahoma, bombing all these things. 0.98

00:33:55.000 You know, uh, they did government experiments on black people. 0.98

00:33:59.000 They did all kinds of things.

00:34:00.000 This was predominantly white.

00:34:01.000 God bless it, son.

00:34:03.000 So my question is, how do you justify them being more violent during that time and not being a natural, I guess, proponent of their race?

00:34:12.000 But now, all of a sudden, us being violent in Detroit and certain areas in America, that's because of our race.

00:34:19.000 Preach, it's over!

00:34:20.000 Well, I'm going to speak to the... Just a moment, I want to say something.

00:34:24.000 My man.

00:34:25.000 See you, Austin.

00:34:27.000 I heard a family talking.

00:34:29.000 I think we should let Nick respond to that.

00:34:31.000 Yeah, I want to address, yeah.

00:34:33.000 So, I understand what you're saying.

00:34:36.000 I understand what you're saying, and people can come up with a variety of explanations for why.

00:34:40.000 What we're talking about fundamentally is disparities.

00:34:43.000 We're talking about disparities between races in wealth, in standards of living, in crime. 0.98

00:34:49.000 And the question is, what is causing these disparities?

00:34:51.000 That is fundamentally the question.

00:34:53.000 It's probably not something written into their genetic code, though.

00:34:55.000 Okay, we're going to get to that.

00:34:57.000 We're going to get to that.

00:34:59.000 I don't think it's racist to ask that question.

00:35:01.000 Is it racist to ask why these disparities arise or exist?

00:35:04.000 Is that wrong?

00:35:05.000 It's racist to make an assumption, though.

00:35:08.000 I'm not making an assumption.

00:35:09.000 I'm not making an assumption.

00:35:10.000 I'm just...

00:35:13.000 I'm just trying to make sure that we're all together here as we move along.

00:35:16.000 So we agree then that this question matters, and it's not racist to ask this question.

00:35:21.000 We acknowledge that these disparities exist, and we must inquire why.

00:35:25.000 Because if we're going to live in a multiracial country, we have to get to the bottom of why some are doing well and some are doing not well. 0.95

00:35:30.000 We have to get to the bottom of why some are rich and some are poor, but between these different racial groups.

00:35:36.000 And we can come up with different explanations, for example, that are

00:35:40.000 Historical and sociological.

00:35:42.000 And I'm not trying to say that none of those are true.

00:35:45.000 Or none of those play a part.

00:35:46.000 Because we could look at Jim Crow and slavery and obviously, obviously a freed slave in 1965 is not going to be economically at parity with a white person. 0.75

00:35:56.000 That much is obvious.

00:35:57.000 And we can agree to that.

00:35:58.000 And we can agree that even still, a hundred years later, under Jim Crow, how could somebody under discriminatory laws achieve economic parity with the majority population?

00:36:07.000 Of course, that plays a part.

00:36:09.000 And we could talk about all kinds of other historical factors.

00:36:12.000 We could talk about, you know, well, the government is corrupt here, or drug cartels here, or the CIA.

00:36:17.000 I agree with you. 0.97

00:36:18.000 They did experiments on blacks. 0.93

00:36:20.000 And, you know, they did some stuff with drugs.

00:36:22.000 So, you know, without getting too much into that, I agree that those are factors.

00:36:27.000 What I'm talking about, and this is where I think a lot of people just run away from right away, and I just told you, I don't have a problem with any other person, depending on their color or whatever, but we are talking about the fact that human biodiversity is real, that there are group differences.

00:36:44.000 And if

00:36:44.000 And if that's a stretch for a lot of people, I want to just tell you, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steve Pinker, all these major people agree.

00:36:53.000 The science on this is uncontroversial.

00:36:55.000 That there are differences between the groups.

00:36:58.000 And we're not talking about... Ben Shapiro does not agree with you, Ned.

00:37:02.000 Can I make a point?

00:37:03.000 Ben Shapiro absolutely does.

00:37:05.000 I will show you the clip.

00:37:06.000 We never said that there wasn't differences.

00:37:08.000 You're assuming that it's genetic.

00:37:10.000 There is no scientific evidence.

00:37:11.000 We obviously said that racial groups are going to be different.

00:37:13.000 Please, can I rebuttal his point?

00:37:14.000 Can I finish the point before we get rebuttals, or what?

00:37:17.000 Yes, make the point, finish your point, and I'll rebuttal it.

00:37:18.000 Stop yelling, stop yelling, stop yelling.

00:37:20.000 So here's the point.

00:37:21.000 Here's the point.

00:37:21.000 Sorry, my camera, or my mic was too close.

00:37:23.000 Hey, everyone shut up and let him finish his point.

00:37:25.000 We talk about a lot of different, uh, racial differences, for example. 0.52

00:37:29.000 Like there's, there's this, uh, you know, we all know the meme about, like, you know...

00:37:33.000 Black people might be more athletic than white people.

00:37:36.000 We heard this one, because I don't want to get into that one, but just as an example.

00:37:40.000 And people are willing to acknowledge some of these differences.

00:37:42.000 People might say, well, Asian people are shorter than white people.

00:37:45.000 Or, you know, Dutch people are tall, or things like this.

00:37:48.000 So we acknowledge that there are racial differences there, but there are other racial differences.

00:37:52.000 There are differences in terms of, like, black people, for example, have more fast twitch muscle fiber.

00:37:57.000 I don't follow any of them.

00:38:21.000 Well then how do you know if they're not talking?

00:38:37.000 So, this is something that- He got his Nobel Prize revoked because it was proven to be factually incorrect.

00:38:43.000 That's not true.

00:38:44.000 That is not true at all.

00:38:44.000 No one's disputing the fact that there is differences.

00:38:47.000 No one's disputing- Okay, then what is the difference?

00:38:49.000 Because it's- What is the difference then?

00:38:51.000 Why is that difference?

00:38:52.000 Claiming that it's genetic, that is completely unfactual and unscientific, there's zero evidence for it.

00:38:56.000 That's why he got his Nobel Prize revoked.

00:38:58.000 Because he said that it was genetic.

00:38:59.000 That's not why.

00:38:59.000 Yes it was!

00:39:00.000 He said- That's not why.

00:39:01.000 Wait, wait, wait a minute.

00:39:02.000 You just said that there's differences between groups, but then you said that there are not?

00:39:06.000 No, there is differences.

00:39:07.000 It's not due to genes, though, or any... What else would it be, then, between races?

00:39:11.000 We're talking about differences between groups of people.

00:39:13.000 What else would it be besides genes?

00:39:14.000 Intelligence isn't a genetic factor.

00:39:16.000 It absolutely is.

00:39:17.000 Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:39:20.000 Okay, listen, I'm gonna let one person talk at a time because I know everybody's wanting to respond here, okay?

00:39:25.000 So, Nevin, did you finish your point?

00:39:27.000 Yes, there is no evidence saying that IQ or violence is genetically related.

00:39:34.000 It's due to years of- Okay, well, the science is on my side.

00:39:38.000 I'd like to see- It's not.

00:39:39.000 It's not on your side.

00:39:42.000 Even if there's an IQ difference, that doesn't mean that some race is genetically predisposed to commit more crimes.

00:39:47.000 IQ is going down. 0.99

00:39:48.000 Listen to Nicolas Fuentes talk for fuck's sake. 0.99

00:39:51.000 Holy- 0.99

00:39:52.000 With that attitude, you're only insulting yourself.

00:39:54.000 Hold on, real quick.

00:39:56.000 Let me ask this, just to clarify.

00:39:57.000 Let's have like a respectful discussion.

00:40:00.000 Just to clarify for myself something real quick.

00:40:02.000 So, you're saying that genetically, right, someone was born with a- doesn't matter what race, right, because we can talk about the white mafias and mobs, right, because they've done some horrific stuff. 0.93

00:40:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:15.000 You're saying people with certain races are born genetically think like with genetics genetically disposed or whatever the language is.

00:40:23.000 I'm not good with big words.

00:40:24.000 Okay, because I'm this because this is I'm born with this in this type of area.

00:40:28.000 I'm gonna commit this crime because I don't think someone's born with the fact of okay.

00:40:32.000 I'm black. 0.98

00:40:32.000 I'm gonna go out and join a gang or I'm white. 0.98

00:40:35.000 I'm gonna go in the Mafia or going to the KKK. 0.98

00:40:37.000 I'm Mexican.

00:40:37.000 I'm going to MS-13.

00:40:39.000 I don't think anybody does that because genetically that just that literally doesn't line up with genetics.

00:40:44.000 Sure it does.

00:40:45.000 Culture influences the decisions you make when you grow up.

00:40:48.000 The nurture system and where you grow up does, not the genetics.

00:40:52.000 Is there a peer reviewed study that you can cite to show that intelligence has genetic factors?

00:40:58.000 Does that not line up more with location than genetics?

00:41:02.000 No, it definitely lines up with more examples.

00:41:04.000 How?

00:41:05.000 How?

00:41:05.000 Explain to me, Aaron.

00:41:07.000 I mean how.

00:41:07.000 Across the world, this is the case.

00:41:09.000 But in any case, if I could respond to one person at a time, that would be... There we go, we got the bell curve.

00:41:14.000 My guy, he's right on the money, exactly.

00:41:16.000 Yeah, you got it.

00:41:17.000 But Sensei, we can't hear you.

00:41:18.000 We can't hear you.

00:41:20.000 Here's the thing, though.

00:41:24.000 You guys just have to, I think, be a little open-minded here, for once.

00:41:29.000 Conservatives and liberals can be a little open-minded.

00:41:31.000 What I'm saying is simply that if we can acknowledge that these differences are real, and the differences are meaningful, then they create different outcomes.

00:41:40.000 They create different patterns of behavior.

00:41:42.000 And if you look at average IQ, and some of you guys are not going to like this, but the average IQ of blacks in this country is 85. 0.96

00:41:50.000 The average IQ of West Africans is 65. 0.71

00:41:53.000 And this is scientific.

00:41:54.000 This is backed up by the data.

00:41:56.000 If you want to see it, I can produce it.

00:41:58.000 I don't have it in front of me right now, but I can produce it on another stream.

00:42:02.000 But this is uncontroversial.

00:42:04.000 And this is why you see these disparities.

00:42:06.000 And if we want to address the disparities, we have to address the causes of them.

00:42:10.000 And you don't get any points by, oh, well, it's racist to say that, or it's racist to say that.

00:42:14.000 I'm looking at this as a problem solver that says, if we want to achieve any level of harmony or equality between the people, we have to address the root causes.

00:42:22.000 And if the root causes are genetic, then so be it.

00:42:25.000 If that's the facts, those are the facts.

00:42:27.000 You could say that's racist, but I thought facts don't care about our feelings.

00:42:32.000 But the problem is, that's not a fact.

00:42:35.000 So you're not hurting my feelings.

00:42:37.000 I literally have something to debunk right now.

00:43:00.000 Because we're not talking about just a generic, oh, you're warriors, you have the war.

00:43:08.000 That's not like a colloquial expression.

00:43:10.000 There is a specific gene that some people have and some don't that is aggression, that is testosterone, and those kinds of things.

00:43:17.000 These are genetic.

00:43:19.000 No, no.

00:43:23.000 And then the other thing about the whole genetic thing is this.

00:43:25.000 You're telling me if, like I said, if it's a genetic thing, you're telling me if we were to take a black baby and put them with the Mexican family, right? 0.94

00:43:32.000 Or if we take a white baby and put them with the black family or 0.97

00:43:35.000 You know, so on and so forth.

00:43:37.000 You're saying that it's going to be the same outcome just because they're born with this genetic, not a race, just because they're born with this genetic, that therefore they're going to act as they would if they were still with whatever family, right?

00:43:46.000 Well, I didn't say... First of all, I'll answer your question.

00:43:48.000 You said it was a genetic thing, though.

00:43:50.000 What I said was, is that genetics plays a role.

00:43:53.000 And I said, I was very careful to say this, that there are other factors.

00:43:56.000 There's environmental factors, there's a stor... I said slavery, Jim Crow, and a variety... I absolutely... Rewind the tape.

00:44:03.000 I said that there are a variety of factors that contribute to these disparities, and race is among them.

00:44:09.000 Nature and nurture play a role.

00:44:11.000 And here's the difference.

00:44:12.000 It's funny.

00:44:13.000 You guys say it's all environment, and to suggest that it's a little bit race is racist.

00:44:18.000 To say it's a little bit race, you can't say that that's racist.

00:44:20.000 That's why you're supremacists.

00:44:22.000 Something in front of me to disprove it right now.

00:44:27.000 One at a time.

00:44:28.000 You're saying it's more than a little bit of race.

00:44:33.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:44:36.000 Amanda, Amanda waited for a while.

00:44:37.000 Let's let her get her point across.

00:44:39.000 So, the only thing that would be considered genetic, in my opinion, is psychopathy and sociopathy, because that has something to do with your brain mental, you can get it through genes, etc.

00:44:49.000 According to, this was cited multiple times, I think over 400 times, by the Institute of Bioscience, although considerable research on psychopathy has been conducted over the past 30 years, relatively few studies have been conducted.

00:45:04.000 However, this is specifically on blacks and whites,

00:45:09.000 Blacks exceeded whites by an average of less than one point on the PCLR scale, which is statistically. 0.56

00:45:17.000 There is no scientific and statistic data that blacks have this gene more than whites.

00:45:27.000 And that's the only genetic... But you're not talking about IQ.

00:45:29.000 You're not disproving my point because you're bringing up something else.

00:45:32.000 This isn't about IQ.

00:45:32.000 This is about psychopathy.

00:45:33.000 Psychopathy is genetic.

00:45:35.000 No, you were talking about genetic predisposition.

00:45:37.000 This is my... No, I was talking about IQ and other factors that lead to disparities in behavior.

00:45:42.000 No, you were talking about genetic predispositions.

00:45:43.000 Predispositions to behavior based on genetic differences.

00:45:46.000 You're trying to disprove my point by bringing up something I didn't bring up.

00:45:49.000 No, but I'm trying to say that this is the only genetic predisposition someone would have is psychopathy, and there is no scientific evidence that being a different ethnicity is going to raise your chances of being a psychopath or a sociopath.

00:46:03.000 But that's not what we're talking about.

00:46:04.000 We're not talking about psychopathy.

00:46:05.000 No, yeah, you're talking about sociopaths.

00:46:07.000 These people are more likely to commit crimes and psychopaths and sociopaths are more likely to commit crimes.

00:46:11.000 You don't understand the topic.

00:46:13.000 You should talk less because you don't know what you're talking about.

00:46:16.000 So because I'm a woman, I should talk less.

00:46:18.000 I just pulled up a little article in the Institute of Biotechnology.

00:46:22.000 Let me ask, let me ask, can I ask a question to Nicholas?

00:46:25.000 Yeah.

00:46:26.000 Okay.

00:46:26.000 So you talked a lot about slavery and Jim Crow.

00:46:29.000 You have to keep in mind, those weren't the only like racial fat, like race, like racist policies that like we had.

00:46:35.000 I mean, for instance, you had like the war on drugs created by Richard Nixon.

00:46:38.000 You had the crime bill that was written by Joe Biden and was

00:46:43.000 The crime bill was awesome.

00:46:45.000 Are you going to vote for Joe now?

00:46:56.000 Well, I'm thinking about it.

00:46:58.000 I'm not going to vote for Joe Biden.

00:47:04.000 Go ahead. 0.69

00:47:05.000 It was literally exposed that the CIA implanted crack cocaine in black neighborhoods.

00:47:10.000 Yeah, I said that.

00:47:11.000 I said I didn't want to get into that, but they did things with drugs, which I acknowledged.

00:47:15.000 Exactly.

00:47:15.000 And you know, by the way, Nick Videos, you seem to be an expert in like this, oh, racism, racism, we're a racist.

00:47:20.000 And I acknowledge that.

00:47:21.000 I acknowledge that this is a factor in some of these disparities.

00:47:24.000 But I think the extent to which that plays a part is vastly overstated.

00:47:27.000 Because there is discrimination against a variety of groups that have succeeded in spite of that.

00:47:32.000 There has been discrimination against Jewish people in America, and they've succeeded in spite of that.

00:47:36.000 There's discrimination against Chinese people, they've succeeded in spite of that.

00:47:40.000 People can succeed in spite of discrimination.

00:47:44.000 That's not to say it doesn't play a part, but I think the extent to which people attribute these differences to those discrimination and other things, I think is overstated.

00:47:53.000 And I think that I'm being very charitable in the way of that and acknowledging a holistic

00:47:59.000 Out of curiosity, is there a statistic that proves that first generation non-white immigrants are less successful than first generation white or Asian immigrants?

00:48:06.000 Just out of curiosity.

00:48:24.000 What is the question again?

00:48:25.000 I was looking at you.

00:48:26.000 Is there any statistic that proves that first generation non-white immigrants are less successful than first generation white immigrants, or Asian?

00:48:34.000 I have looked at statistics, which I know off the top of my head, from Jason Richwine, which show that if you're looking at Hispanic immigrants in particular, they, in general, on average, will arrive to the country with a lower level of education, a lower level of net worth, a lower level of income and literacy,

00:48:52.000 What about first generation, um, like African... 0.99

00:49:05.000 Other than Hispanic or South American immigrants, what about anybody else? 0.99

00:49:11.000 In some cases what you'll find is that the problem with some immigration, with for example the diversity of visa lotteries, that the immigration is self-selected.

00:49:21.000 So I will admit that you will get

00:49:23.000 Some immigrants who are high IQ are exceptional.

00:49:27.000 For example, I think Nigerians in this country have a higher average income than whites.

00:49:32.000 Right, and there are a number of groups that are like this.

00:49:35.000 But this is largely because those smaller immigrant groups that are coming here are self-selected.

00:49:41.000 And so I'm not saying that there are no intelligent non-white people. 0.98

00:49:44.000 That would be ridiculous. 0.92

00:49:45.000 We're talking about averages. 0.91

00:49:46.000 We're talking about medians, averages.

00:49:48.000 We're talking about

00:49:49.000 Things like that.

00:49:50.000 So what you'll find is the people that tend to come here from these countries where you don't see a lot of immigration will be self-selected as higher education, higher IQ.

00:49:59.000 They will tend to be the higher-up or the elite of the society for getting over to the country.

00:50:03.000 It's really not talking about that.

00:50:05.000 And by the way,

00:50:06.000 We're not even talking about those minorities of people.

00:50:09.000 If you want to bring over, you know, I think there's like certain categories of immigrants that are like, you know, highly educated or extreme specialists in their field.

00:50:19.000 You know, maybe we could talk about bringing those people in.

00:50:21.000 But what we're talking about is massive amounts of people.

00:50:24.000 We're not talking about, you know, 10,000 people from one country from the diversity visa lottery.

00:50:29.000 We're talking about 60 million people over 60 years.

00:50:33.000 You know, these are broad swaths of people and illegals that we don't even know who they are. 0.99

00:50:37.000 And so when we average those out, you tend to get a lower quality immigrant. 1.00

00:50:42.000 And moreover, I'm not making the argument that, well, if they're high IQ and etc., then they're okay.

00:50:48.000 You know, I've made cultural and social arguments, but if we're talking about these disparities in crime, we can't attribute them to genetics.

00:50:55.000 I'm still waiting to hear a peer-reviewed scientific study on how genetics influence intelligence.

00:51:05.000 I don't have it in front of me, but I can produce it.

00:51:07.000 I didn't know I'd be having a race and IQ debate tonight, but I can produce that for you if you're really interested.

00:51:15.000 I would love to know that stuff as well.

00:51:19.000 Even if that's true, right?

00:51:20.000 How do we go forward?

00:51:23.000 If you're saying naturally, we just have lower IQ, we're not going to be as successful, we're going to struggle a little bit more.

00:51:31.000 So, shouldn't we be more, I guess, have more subsidization going on or something, instead of us having three strike laws that disproportionately affect us?

00:51:40.000 Shouldn't we be shown more leniency, given the fact that we're starting at a lower advantage?

00:51:46.000 That's my question.

00:51:47.000 Yeah, that's a good question.

00:51:48.000 And here's the thing, and here's what I want to make clear is,

00:51:51.000 I'm not I don't like love that this is the case and maybe I should have started with this when I talk about these group differences, which means that blacks are set back compared to whites. 0.99

00:52:00.000 I'm not like oh, and that's great.

00:52:02.000 And what this is like a very tragic and sad fact of our nature inequality.

00:52:08.000 is a tragic thing.

00:52:09.000 Because I think there's something in us that wants everybody to get a fair shake and everything.

00:52:13.000 So I'm not like celebrating that.

00:52:14.000 I think we're all equal before God.

00:52:16.000 I think we should all be equal before the law.

00:52:18.000 But we could say that there is inequality when people begin to be born, right?

00:52:22.000 And I don't like that.

00:52:24.000 I find that uncomfortable and it's not a great thing.

00:52:27.000 But if we want to help people, we have to look at the facts.

00:52:32.000 You know, if it is, let's say hypothetically,

00:52:36.000 It's proven that these differences are 100% genetic.

00:52:39.000 Then we're wasting a lot of time attributing it to other things than affirmative action.

00:52:42.000 All these things are a waste of time.

00:52:44.000 We should be trying to figure out how to elevate them in other ways.

00:52:47.000 That's what I'm getting at.

00:52:48.000 So how do we move forward knowing this?

00:52:52.000 Well, for starters, we have to balance

00:52:54.000 The need to keep our country safe versus the need to help people, right?

00:52:57.000 I mean, if there are people out there that are killing and doing all kinds of things, it's like, well, let's put them behind bars before we figure out how they're going to get ahead in the world.

00:53:05.000 And I agree, we could figure out things like that.

00:53:07.000 You know, I think like, if you look at, was it Booker T. Washington back in the day, they had some solutions about, you know, taking some of these communities and

00:53:16.000 Having them get educated and start families, because the black community was actually doing a lot better, you know, under Jim Crow.

00:53:23.000 I said that a long time ago and people got mad at me for it, but when did the family, the black family, begin to blow up? 1.00

00:53:30.000 Right around the 1950s.

00:53:32.000 Some people attribute that to the Great Society in the late 60s, but I think largely it's from, you know, civil rights.

00:53:38.000 And I'm not saying civil rights is a bad thing or it shouldn't happen, but I'm, you know, just pointing out where these trends began.

00:53:43.000 The black family was together, the crime rates were lower, unemployment was lower.

00:53:47.000 And I think that if we were to bring that back and look at a lot of these genetic factors and family-based factors and maximizing success, then we'd be okay.

00:53:55.000 But you know what doesn't work?

00:53:56.000 It's saying, oh, you're poor?

00:53:58.000 Here's more programs.

00:53:59.000 Here's more money.

00:54:00.000 Here's more money for, you know, baby mamas to have tons of kids. 1.00

00:54:04.000 And you know that happens.

00:54:05.000 You know that exacerbates the problems.

00:54:07.000 So, you know, I think that's the solution.

00:54:09.000 I think we could all get along together and everybody's equal in that sense, but we have to get serious about problems, and getting serious about problems means looking at the facts and addressing the real problems, not the fake ones we come up with to make ourselves feel good.

00:54:22.000 Hang on, hang on.

00:54:26.000 Vicente has been waiting for a long time.

00:54:29.000 My mic was broken.

00:54:29.000 It was my fault.

00:54:30.000 All right.

00:54:30.000 So I don't agree with Nick on a lot of things, but on the IQ differences, he's correct.

00:54:37.000 I've read this entire book.

00:54:38.000 He's correct.

00:54:39.000 And like, just for the sake of not being called racist, for Mexicans, the average IQ, if you're from Mexico, I don't think it has anything to do with race, your color, anything.

00:54:48.000 If you're from Mexico, your average IQ is 89. 1.00

00:54:50.000 It has an entire country breakdown, and it's all based off of genetics from what happened earlier in generations in that said area.

00:54:59.000 When people come to America, their average IQ slightly raises because of environmental things, and it's slowly going to continue to get better through time.

00:55:08.000 Here's the book, The Bell Curve.

00:55:09.000 Well, and that's fine, you know.

00:55:11.000 That's fine that we can say that these nations aren't teaching their people as well as they should be.

00:55:15.000 No, it's not even teaching.

00:55:16.000 It's based off of genetics.

00:55:18.000 It's based off of... You're jumping from point A. You're taking the point A of the fact that there's differences, and then you're saying those are due to genetics.

00:55:25.000 You've yet to prove how intelligence is genetically related.

00:55:28.000 You just said yourself, when they move countries, their IQ can go up.

00:55:31.000 What statistic do you want?

00:55:33.000 Jobs?

00:55:33.000 I have the entire book in here, bro.

00:55:40.000 I know.

00:55:40.000 I have that book too.

00:55:41.000 It's based on IQ differences.

00:55:43.000 They don't go into the genetic differences that occur.

00:55:46.000 It does if you actually read in between the graphs.

00:55:49.000 Well, hold on.

00:55:50.000 So look.

00:55:52.000 I've read The Bell Curse.

00:55:53.000 I understand where you're coming from.

00:55:55.000 I haven't read the whole thing like you.

00:55:56.000 I haven't read parts of it.

00:55:57.000 Probably a good three-fourths of it.

00:55:59.000 And I'm not calling you, Nicholas, you racist, right?

00:56:01.000 I'm not saying that what you're trying to say about the race is strictly racist, but I'm saying so that we're going to talk about intelligence, right?

00:56:08.000 Like I was saying earlier, if you're going to take, let's say, a kid that was born in Mexico, the day he was born, right?

00:56:15.000 We take him, we put him in, you know, just whatever you consider a decent American school, because yeah, American public school systems suck terribly.

00:56:23.000 And studies like that have been done.

00:56:25.000 The average IQ only raises 10 points.

00:56:28.000 That's it.

00:56:28.000 It does raise though, right?

00:56:30.000 It does raise.

00:56:31.000 10 points max on average.

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:33.000 And there's been studies, like there was a study in Minnesota, a twin study, where they took twins and they took one that was, I think it was a twin study.

00:56:41.000 I don't know all the details.

00:56:42.000 I could look it up for you to get the specifics, but one raised in a white household, one raised in a black household, and the SAT and IQ scores remain the same.

00:56:50.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:56:51.000 There are environmental factors to IQ.

00:56:53.000 We're not saying that environment plays no part. 0.99

00:56:55.000 That would be stupid. 0.99

00:56:57.000 No, I'm not saying- Look, I'm not saying you were- Racist. 1.00

00:57:15.000 Well, and the thing is, you know, it's this idea that, it's this idea that you're born dumber than white people. 0.99

00:57:24.000 That's what, that's what, that's what people are hearing. 0.99

00:57:26.000 Not just white people, because white people don't even have the highest IQ, I believe, right? 0.97

00:57:30.000 Well, I know, I know, I know, but okay. 0.98

00:57:31.000 East Asian Indian people.

00:57:32.000 Okay, East Indian or whatever, you know, but, but white, white, you know, is what the, like, I guess, 0.70

00:57:37.000 Well, it doesn't mean that.

00:57:38.000 The statistics aren't based off of your skin color.

00:57:41.000 The statistics are based off of where you're from, what country, what region.

00:57:44.000 They have Africa breakdowns, they have South Africa breakdowns, certain countries.

00:58:05.000 So that's cultural.

00:58:23.000 And if you look at the distribution of IQ scores across the continent, you have tons of high IQ people in Africa.

00:58:30.000 You have tons of high IQ people from these populations that on average are lower, but we're talking about averages. 1.00

00:58:36.000 And so if you're talking about most of the population, they're going to be lower.

00:58:40.000 We're talking about standard deviation, you know, these distributions.

00:58:44.000 So, you know, it's not to say, oh, well, you're this color. 1.00

00:58:48.000 Dumb. 0.99

00:58:48.000 We're talking about, and that's how we have to think, because we're a big country and we're talking about big populations moving in. 0.99

00:58:53.000 We have to think about groups, not individuals.

00:58:56.000 There are many intelligent non-white people.

00:58:58.000 It's not worth saying that that's impossible.

00:59:00.000 We're just saying, on average, we have to grapple with these groups and think about these numbers as we change the racial constitution or composition of our country.

00:59:10.000 I mean, I get that. 0.99

00:59:11.000 I'm just saying, I know a lot of white folks that are dumber than a rock, especially being out here from the sticks. 1.00

00:59:18.000 So in that case, we should have more East Indians here than white people. 0.99

00:59:21.000 No, no, because we're not saying that... East Asians do have a higher average IQ than whites, but we're not saying that it's an IQ test to get in the country.

00:59:30.000 We're simply... because the problem with immigration is not that they're low IQ or whatever.

00:59:35.000 It's that they're not us.

00:59:36.000 It's that we don't want to replace the population with another population, whether they're low IQ, high IQ. 1.00

00:59:41.000 I want America to be us and this to be our home.

00:59:44.000 Not, you know, it's like your house.

00:59:46.000 You wouldn't want

00:59:47.000 Yeah, I know.

00:59:48.000 I got it.

01:00:13.000 Yeah, but I mean, you've yet to present one source saying that it is genetic.

01:00:17.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to play the, you know, whyamiright.com right now.

01:00:21.000 I don't have it in front of me, but I can produce it on another stream.

01:00:26.000 That was bad.

01:00:32.000 Oh, God.

01:00:32.000 You good?

01:00:33.000 I swallowed a little bit of Dipshit. 0.98

01:00:34.000 That was not a good idea.

01:00:38.000 So, uh, my battery on my iPad's about to die.

01:00:41.000 I'm gonna try and log back in on my laptop.

01:00:43.000 Can...

01:00:44.000 Yeah, we're gonna have to fix it.

01:00:45.000 Yeah, we just won't let anybody in.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, I think we pretty much met, like, as far as we're gonna go with the whole IQ thing.

01:00:49.000 Yeah, we're gonna... Let's go to, um... Hey, everybody knows, just call in.

01:00:53.000 Hey, what's...

01:01:12.000 Hey, what's up? 0.89

01:01:13.000 I just wanted to say, really, I am disturbed that most of you guys are accepting what Nick has said as fact, when almost everything he's said is complete bullshit, and I can prove it. 0.91

01:01:25.000 I read The Belcher, that book that he's referring to, and that's the basis of this IQ difference. 0.94

01:01:33.000 Fuentes.

01:01:34.000 Okay.

01:01:34.000 And what he conveniently leaves out is that when that book was published, when the bell curve was published, it created such an uproar and a backlash that the people that wrote it,

01:01:58.000 I think there have been something like 20 book-length rebuttals written to the bell curve, just because it's complete bullshit, and it's not backed up by any real scientific data.

01:02:07.000 The bell curve assumes that the quotient g, general intelligence, is a thing that exists, and it assumes you can perfectly measure intelligence with a number, which you can't.

01:02:17.000 But even if we assume that to be true, which again, it's not, so the entire premise of the bell curve is false.

01:02:25.000 Even the authors of the bell curve say that at maximum, only 40% of your intelligence is genetically based.

01:02:33.000 So even if we take the main source that Fuentes is using here and assume everything in it to be completely correct, which it's not, most of it is based off of IQ tests done in the 1800s, where they went to Africa and they asked people, what is a saucer?

01:02:51.000 You know, like the thing you put a teacup on.

01:02:53.000 And if they said they didn't know, they're like, oh, you're not smart. 0.99

01:02:57.000 Obviously, someone living in Africa who has never been to Europe would not know what a fucking saucer is. 0.99

01:03:02.000 And you can't use that as an IQ test. 0.99

01:03:05.000 But you know, again, Nick leaves that out because that's not important.

01:03:09.000 Wait, real quick, let the record show that I'm not saying, and I don't know how I speak for everybody in here, but I don't say even what other conservatives say as fact 100% if I don't know, you know what I mean, if I haven't read it.

01:03:21.000 So I'm not- Yeah, I think a lot of us aren't accepting what Nick's saying as fact, I think we just don't- Yeah, yeah, continue on, I know what you're saying, Barry, I'm not- I'm not taking anything anybody's saying as fact until I can read it for myself, so.

01:03:33.000 Yeah, okay, alright, I'll give you that, but

01:03:35.000 Again, like, the basis of this book is very, very shaky.

01:03:39.000 Some would say indefensible.

01:03:41.000 And it is indefensible.

01:03:42.000 You will not find a single modern, like, psychologist or scientist who will tell you that there is a racial difference between IQs.

01:03:51.000 It is now the generally accepted consensus that IQ is completely based on environmental factors like class, money, and culture.

01:04:01.000 That is the fact. 0.95

01:04:02.000 Like, he talks about how, oh, facts can't be racist, but the facts, the fact that he's using is complete bullshit and is not based on real science. 0.92

01:04:12.000 You can't just call something a fact because you like what it has to say. 0.91

01:04:16.000 What he's doing is he's doing the reverse. 0.54

01:04:19.000 What he's doing is he's starting with a racist idea that blacks are below whites and that other cultures are below white people. 0.72

01:04:26.000 And then he's cherry picking the bad data 0.92

01:04:29.000 That is based on terrible, terrible science to back it up.

01:04:33.000 Where what you should be doing is looking at the real data over here and then building your view off of that.

01:04:38.000 But what Fuentes is doing is that he's doing the exact opposite.

01:04:42.000 He's starting with the assumption that Black people are inferior, and then he's going in trying to defend that with books like The Bell Curve, which are just factually incorrect.

01:04:54.000 Can I address that?

01:04:55.000 Can I rebut that?

01:04:59.000 Everything that I've said I can give you guys a source for because nothing I've said is factually incorrect.

01:05:05.000 Before anybody rebuttals, just real quick.

01:05:07.000 I like how we just said we're not going to talk about this no more, and someone brings up a question.

01:05:11.000 And then, two, let's work on a little bit.

01:05:13.000 I understand you probably don't like the man, but let's work on a little bit of how we talk about people.

01:05:19.000 Civility.

01:05:20.000 Civility.

01:05:21.000 We don't all agree for sure.

01:05:22.000 I mean, we got liberals.

01:05:23.000 We got all sorts of things.

01:05:24.000 We just got to, you know what I mean?

01:05:26.000 We've got everybody from ancoms to freaking, you know, I mean, pretty bright consumers.

01:05:32.000 You hear what you're saying?

01:05:32.000 You might have the facts, but just

01:05:35.000 You know what I'm saying.

01:05:36.000 And then also, if you have anything else that has to do with the intelligence thing, this is the last thing because we've talked about this for long.

01:05:43.000 Can I just stay unmuted for one second so I can hear his rebuttal and respond?

01:05:47.000 And also, I just want to say, I don't think an argument that inherently treats races of people as below other people and a racist argument, I don't think that deserves civility.

01:06:00.000 I don't think we have to entertain and we have to be civil

01:06:04.000 About the possibility of racism.

01:06:07.000 I don't think we have to put that in a certain way.

01:06:09.000 Well, I think that to have a productive discussion is active and civil.

01:06:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:06:12.000 No matter who you're- Listen, listen.

01:06:15.000 It isn't a productive discussion.

01:06:18.000 I would argue that it is a productive discussion.

01:06:20.000 Who are you?

01:06:20.000 And how did you get un-muted?

01:06:22.000 I un-muted him.

01:06:24.000 So, here, look.

01:06:26.000 I'll explain, I'll explain.

01:06:28.000 He's extremely smart.

01:06:30.000 So, I'm, you know, I would consider myself far less

01:06:36.000 Yeah, I would consider myself far left.

01:06:40.000 You know, I mostly just came here to watch, but I was pretty disturbed that all these racist ideas that are factually incorrect, even though he likes to think they are,

01:06:51.000 We're not being challenged properly.

01:06:55.000 Because we all collectively have a rather popular following and we can't really give pushback if we don't have the information at hand because we can't say things that may not be factually correct.

01:07:07.000 I don't think many people in this zoom call prepared to have this debate tonight.

01:07:13.000 It's not our like area of expertise.

01:07:17.000 Okay, can I reply now?

01:07:20.000 I want to hear this, I really do.

01:07:24.000 So in the first place I want to acknowledge that you are a leftist and I want to say that, I mean, really the argument comes from what you accuse me of doing is what you have done actually instead.

01:07:34.000 You say, well,

01:07:36.000 You started from a racist conclusion and worked your way backwards to justify it.

01:07:40.000 And you have essentially done the opposite.

01:07:43.000 You have started with the conclusion that equality is total and complete.

01:07:47.000 There are no genetic causes for IQ.

01:07:49.000 There are no group differences in IQ.

01:07:52.000 I'm going to go to imright.com and you know, blah, blah, blah.

01:07:56.000 And so I will just say that everything you're accusing me of doing, you have done.

01:07:59.000 And this is what most people do on this subject is, you know, even this guy who keeps saying, wait a second, I'll let you finish.

01:08:04.000 This other guy who keeps saying,

01:08:06.000 There's no scientific evidence.

01:08:07.000 This one guy won't even put his face on the camera.

01:08:09.000 There's no scientific evidence at all.

01:08:12.000 You don't know that.

01:08:13.000 You haven't looked at the data.

01:08:14.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

01:08:15.000 But people refuse to believe something that causes cognitive dissonance and goes against what they've believed for 20 years.

01:08:21.000 So I just want to point that out right away.

01:08:22.000 And I also want to say I haven't assumed anybody's intentions or motivations here.

01:08:26.000 And I find it very nasty and not civil that people come here and say, oh, you're racist or you're right, you know, whatever.

01:08:32.000 You know, you worked your way backwards.

01:08:35.000 I want to say that I was a libertarian when I was in high school, okay?

01:08:38.000 I'm Mexican myself.

01:08:40.000 I'm a quarter Mexican.

01:08:41.000 And so, you know, I was just like an average, regular white guy in high school.

01:08:47.000 Yeah, whatever.

01:08:48.000 Everybody's equal, hate racism, libertarian, whatever.

01:08:50.000 But what happened is data came crashing down on my worldview.

01:08:56.000 And all this stuff, the scholarship which has been buried for so long, came to my attention.

01:09:02.000 I changed my opinion based on the data.

01:09:05.000 Do you think it would be easier or harder for me?

01:09:07.000 To go into the world as somebody talking like this or somebody talking like everybody else.

01:09:11.000 Everybody's equal.

01:09:12.000 Everybody's equal.

01:09:13.000 I could be, you know, Turning Point USA rep.

01:09:16.000 I could be a Democrat operative.

01:09:18.000 I could make a lot of money if I just peddled that kind of stuff.

01:09:20.000 So to assume my motivations is wrong, it doesn't make any sense.

01:09:23.000 But beyond that, you know, you are saying, I mean, first of all,

01:09:27.000 You're saying that the bell curve is wrong.

01:09:29.000 First of all, you say that's my primary source.

01:09:31.000 I didn't give that as my primary source.

01:09:33.000 I told you.

01:09:33.000 I didn't come here.

01:09:35.000 I didn't know this was a race and IQ debate.

01:09:36.000 I didn't have my papers ready.

01:09:38.000 Oh, well, chapter and verse.

01:09:39.000 Here's where it says it.

01:09:40.000 I told you.

01:09:41.000 I can produce the evidence.

01:09:42.000 I've read this scholarship before.

01:09:44.000 Richard Lin is another one.

01:09:46.000 Charles Murray.

01:09:46.000 Jared Taylor.

01:09:47.000 There's many sources on this subject.

01:09:49.000 I don't have it on hand.

01:09:50.000 I'm not going to go, while you guys are talking and Google, uh, you know, I'm right.com.

01:09:55.000 That's not what I do.

01:09:57.000 So we could have that discussion.

01:09:58.000 We could have a debate on that another time.

01:10:00.000 I thought people were just asking me questions.

01:10:03.000 Anyway, even though you say that's my main source and it isn't, it never was my main source, that there are refutations to a source does not mean the source is invalid. 0.76

01:10:11.000 Oh, well, this was such bullshit that people responded and said it was untrue.

01:10:15.000 Case closed, people disagreed, the original person was wrong. 0.99

01:10:19.000 So, I mean, that is just a non-starter to begin with.

01:10:22.000 And then you go on and say, well,

01:10:24.000 The problem is G. The problem is general intelligence. 0.87

01:10:27.000 And you say that the problem is the way the tests were administered.

01:10:29.000 I know for a fact that I will produce this as soon as I get a minute off stream, like I said, don't have it in front of me, that there have been tests of all varieties administered to all different groups that are completely abstract, without language.

01:10:42.000 They use symbols.

01:10:43.000 They're without any kind of cultural bias.

01:10:45.000 This has been evaluated.

01:10:46.000 So you say, oh, well, the only tests that have ever been done on IQ were 200 years ago.

01:10:50.000 I'm talking about saucers, something obviously colored by culture.

01:10:54.000 But there's so much scholarship on IQ measured in a variety of ways, by a variety of different tests.

01:11:00.000 And tests that don't use language even.

01:11:02.000 Tests that, like I said, are symbols.

01:11:03.000 They'll look at dots or lines.

01:11:05.000 Pattern recognition, things like that.

01:11:07.000 And G, general intelligence, that is a concept that is accepted by most mainstream IQ scientists.

01:11:15.000 And like I said, I didn't prepare all my papers for this.

01:11:18.000 I thought we were gonna talk about immigration.

01:11:20.000 That was what my stream was about, but the scholarship is there.

01:11:23.000 So for you to come over here and say, I'm actually, I don't know what background you're from, but I'm this left-wing communist, and you're just a white supremacist, and I'm making your assumptions about your intentions.

01:11:34.000 And this is the problem with the discourse.

01:11:36.000 Why do you think it is that people get buried in an avalanche and all mainstream people agree that race and IQ doesn't exist?

01:11:43.000 It's because of these social functions and everybody wants to pretend that social pressure does not affect scholarship.

01:11:49.000 Do you think scientists all go out there and say,

01:11:51.000 Yes.

01:12:11.000 This happens in Europe all the time with crime statistics.

01:12:13.000 This happens with race and IQ.

01:12:15.000 Whatever is inconvenient for the liberal narrative is buried because all academics and scholars know that if you produce a politically incorrect report or result, then your career's over and you're done.

01:12:25.000 We all know how that's how it works.

01:12:27.000 So to say that because there was opposition to a controversial claim, that the controversial claim is wrong, I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.90

01:12:33.000 So very disingenuous. 0.88

01:12:34.000 But I mean, this is a leftist who has our political enemy who's trying to destroy us.

01:12:38.000 So I don't know why we would see him as a good faith actor anyway.

01:12:40.000 So first of all, I'm not a communist, even though you assume that because I said I was a leftist.

01:12:50.000 I mean, if you can't see behind me, I'm a leftist libertarian boss, man.

01:12:54.000 But that's beside the point. 0.88

01:12:57.000 Even though you see, you accuse me of assuming your intentions, and then you just end it with, oh, he's an evil leftist who wants to destroy us.

01:13:06.000 That's not what I am.

01:13:11.000 I'm an American.

01:13:12.000 I just disagree with your, you know, racist assumption there.

01:13:17.000 And I'll explain here in a second why.

01:13:20.000 First of all, you said a lot of points there and that's fair because I said a lot.

01:13:24.000 The reason I brought up the bell curve is because in this field of connecting IQ to race, the bell curve is like the book.

01:13:33.000 It is the book that

01:13:37.000 kind of first started this assertion that there was an IQ difference in between races.

01:13:43.000 It's the book.

01:13:46.000 I almost want to say it's the bible of this, you know, kind of racist field of science.

01:13:53.000 That's why I attacked that first, because I think attacking that, and I also saw someone here hold up their copy of the bell curve, like very proud, that's why I attacked that.

01:14:06.000 Second,

01:14:07.000 The reason that I don't think it's true that if you challenge the liberal consensus, you're going to get outlawed.

01:14:15.000 The people that wrote the bell curve became millionaires.

01:14:18.000 They got like hundreds of times more media attention and money than just someone who would have agreed with the consensus.

01:14:27.000 This notion that disagreeing with the liberals will ruin your life or cause you cause like a negative effect is just completely untrue.

01:14:37.000 I don't know where that comes from.

01:14:38.000 If anything, creating a controversial opinion that makes you stand out and appeals to a certain group of people, racist people, will make you money.

01:14:48.000 It will get you attention.

01:14:50.000 And if anything, it will help your career more than it will hurt it.

01:14:54.000 Because going against the consensus gets more attention than agreeing with it.

01:14:59.000 Like there's not a newspaper article written, water is discovered to be wet.

01:15:04.000 Like no one, like, okay, yeah.

01:15:06.000 No one cares if you find an agreement.

01:15:08.000 If anything, the opposite is true.

01:15:10.000 If anything, your career gets made by creating this controversial topic.

01:15:15.000 So I disagree with your assertion that all scientists and all the researchers fake data because it would hurt them in some way and cause a negative effect if they dare to disagree with the liberals.

01:15:29.000 And I think that's a very common misconception.

01:15:32.000 And when you look at real data, you see that that's not true.

01:15:36.000 And just thinking about it logically, like if someone told you a controversial opinion, that would get your attention.

01:15:42.000 If someone told you a non-controversial opinion, that wouldn't matter.

01:15:46.000 And finally, when I said that a lot of people disagreed, I didn't just say a lot of people disagreed.

01:15:52.000 I said the scientific community disagreed.

01:15:55.000 As in the actual facts and data that we've compiled does not agree with the conclusions presented in the bell curve.

01:16:03.000 And it does not agree.

01:16:05.000 With the conclusion that there is a significant genetically caused IQ difference between races of people.

01:16:12.000 It does not agree.

01:16:13.000 I'm not simply saying that.

01:16:14.000 Oh, a bunch of people said, said, no, that's not what I'm saying.

01:16:18.000 I'm saying a bunch of scientists, a bunch of reputable people, facts, data, and logic all disagree with that.

01:16:27.000 It's not just people.

01:16:29.000 And I think it is kind of disingenuous of you to generalize the entire scientific community.

01:16:35.000 And this wealth of knowledge and data that we have that disagrees with you as just simply biased and then ignore it.

01:16:42.000 And the reason I said you worked backward is because if you hadn't worked backwards from the assumption that certain races are inferior.

01:16:55.000 If you hadn't worked backwards from that assumption.

01:16:59.000 Sorry, let me.

01:17:00.000 Inferior when it comes to intelligence.

01:17:03.000 Is that fair?

01:17:04.000 As in below?

01:17:05.000 Not really, but go ahead.

01:17:06.000 Okay.

01:17:07.000 Lower IQ scores on average among races.

01:17:10.000 Is that fair?

01:17:11.000 Okay.

01:17:12.000 So if you work from that assumption and then go backwards, you would arrive where you are and you supporting things like, uh, Robert, whatever his last name is and the bell curve.

01:17:23.000 But if you had started and taken a look at the whole range of data that we have and whole range of studies that we have.

01:17:31.000 You would come to the exact opposite conclusion because the simple fact of the matter is, and there has been polling that's been done on this among anthropologists, among psychologists, among all these different scientific communities, and a majority of them always say that your opinion is wrong and that your opinion is based on bad data that is simply not true and heavily biased.

01:17:54.000 This is an appeal to authority.

01:17:56.000 Oh really?

01:17:58.000 People that are not geneticists?

01:18:01.000 People that are not IQ specialists?

01:18:05.000 I don't care about your anthropologists.

01:18:11.000 I care about people that are experts in genetics and IQ.

01:18:13.000 And I'm waiting to hear this wealth of... Wait, wait, wait.

01:18:16.000 I'm waiting to hear about this wealth of data. 1.00

01:18:18.000 I mean, you said like, oh, well, a bunch of guys said it's bullshit. 0.99

01:18:22.000 So case closed. 0.97

01:18:23.000 I'm waiting to hear this data.

01:18:25.000 But in any case,

01:18:26.000 But in any case, the point which I'm trying to make, which I guess we've moved on to now, is that of course, of course, people get excoriated if they come up with the wrong conclusions.

01:18:37.000 And I've heard this throughout my whole life.

01:18:39.000 People have told me, well, I'm getting, like, banned from PayPal, I'm getting banned from YouTube, I'm getting death threats, I'm gonna go all- People are telling me all throughout this,

01:18:49.000 That I'm benefiting from that.

01:18:50.000 Oh, you're benefiting.

01:18:52.000 You're just gaining from this controversy.

01:18:55.000 It's like, yeah, I can't go in public without somebody, unless somebody attacked me or something.

01:19:00.000 I get kicked out of CPAC.

01:19:02.000 People try to ruin my life.

01:19:03.000 People try to dox my address, et cetera, et cetera.

01:19:06.000 Oh, but I'm just doing so great.

01:19:08.000 I love that.

01:19:09.000 No, of course not.

01:19:10.000 And you could document many cases of people.

01:19:13.000 that have said heterodox things about science and they've got their lizers. 0.98

01:19:17.000 James Watson was the example I brought up.

01:19:19.000 James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA, has all his honorary titles and Nobel Prize revoked because he says he suggested that there could be a genetic link between race and IQ.

01:19:30.000 And as obvious as it was incorrect, because you can disagree in science, it was because it was politically incorrect.

01:19:35.000 And that has happened to most of the people I know.

01:19:38.000 Jared Taylor, that happened to Sam Francis, Peter Brimelow.

01:19:41.000 Sam Francis was one of the best writers at the Washington Times, until he started to talk about white identity politics.

01:19:47.000 And then he got fired, and nobody wanted to hire him, and he couldn't make any money, and he died like porn alone.

01:19:52.000 And this happens to many people that tell the truth.

01:19:54.000 And liberals are the first one to acknowledge this when it's like Galileo.

01:19:56.000 Remember when the church oppressed all the scientists? 0.87

01:19:59.000 But now, oh no no, there's no church anymore.

01:20:02.000 Anybody can say whatever they want.

01:20:03.000 Unless they say something we don't like. 0.96

01:20:05.000 So I'm, you know, that is just ridiculous. 0.57

01:20:06.000 I don't even know why you would contest that.

01:20:08.000 And in any case, the data...

01:20:11.000 is overwhelmingly on the side of genetic basis for race.

01:20:14.000 And like I said, I didn't know we were coming to a debate on race and IQ, so I don't have the paperwork in front of me.

01:20:21.000 So it's foolish to carry on this.

01:20:23.000 Well, I heard from this poll that these scientists said that this methodology is bad.

01:20:28.000 And I say, well, I read something that said X, Y, and Z. We could do a debate about race and IQ.

01:20:32.000 We can set that up and you can come with your papers and I can come with mine.

01:20:35.000 We could debate about general intelligence.

01:20:36.000 But until that point, I mean, you're just a liberal, so.

01:20:40.000 We're talking about immigration.

01:20:41.000 We're talking about the cost of deportation.

01:20:42.000 I don't know how that factors in.

01:21:10.000 Who wrote the Belker, right?

01:21:11.000 Yeah, Charles Murray.

01:21:12.000 Charles A. Murray, right?

01:21:13.000 You know how many places protest him for coming to a certain thing?

01:21:17.000 Yeah, I know.

01:21:18.000 I'm not jumping on to support Mr. Fuentes here.

01:21:21.000 I'm not jumping on to support anybody.

01:21:22.000 I'm just saying what you said about people having their careers made.

01:21:25.000 You can be infamous and you can be very, very well known for being hated.

01:21:30.000 It's not what you think, my friend.

01:21:31.000 It's not what you think.

01:21:32.000 Trust me.

01:21:34.000 Everybody says that from the outside looking in, but it's not what you think.

01:21:38.000 And ask anybody in this room.

01:21:39.000 Ask anybody in this room.

01:21:40.000 I bet you, maybe a lot of people watching this or in this room might agree with me, but they'll never say it because it would go against their career.

01:21:48.000 So people can say that, but they don't act like it.

01:21:51.000 Or they might just disagree with you.

01:21:53.000 I mean, certainly there are people that disagree.

01:21:55.000 And there are people that disagree.

01:21:56.000 I didn't say everybody.

01:21:57.000 Not everybody agrees on everything either, dude.

01:22:00.000 Like, that's just how the world's going to work.

01:22:03.000 Oh yeah, that's fine.

01:22:04.000 Disagreement is how we move forward.

01:22:07.000 Alright, so yeah.

01:22:08.000 It was a good question, but like, we do want to move on to a different topic.

01:22:11.000 We've been on this topic for a while now.

01:22:12.000 You got a couple of rebuttals in there, so.

01:22:15.000 There's a question this guy's been raising his hand since the beginning.

01:22:18.000 It's about race and intelligence.

01:22:21.000 Please don't ask if it's been talked about for a long time.

01:22:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:24.000 Let's move on to a different topic.

01:22:28.000 Or if it's about dolphins.

01:22:29.000 Bro, what is with y'all and dolphins?

01:22:30.000 Can someone explain that?

01:22:32.000 No, no, no, don't do that.

01:22:34.000 Someone will be explaining the dolphins' rights.

01:22:37.000 We would've just been here last night.

01:22:39.000 Gabby, Gabby.

01:22:42.000 What is with the dolphins?

01:22:44.000 I'll explain it tomorrow in a video.

01:22:46.000 I'll expose dolphins tomorrow.

01:22:51.000 They're asking us to talk about LGBTQ rights.

01:22:55.000 Gabby, you're up.

01:22:58.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

01:23:00.000 Who, Matt?

01:23:02.000 Imagine having rights.

01:23:07.000 Okay.

01:23:09.000 Are we taking a question?

01:23:11.000 What's going on, Matt?

01:23:12.000 Someone said, can we just talk about LGBTQ rights?

01:23:15.000 I mean, there's those things as human rights, and I think some people that- I just realized my mic's been muted.

01:23:20.000 I think people that morally, I don't agree with any of that stuff, but I'm not going to, you know, mean to just because of it.

01:23:31.000 Now, if you're in my face about it and you're thinking you should fundamentally change certain things of the law to curve to maybe an advantage towards you, then that's where we're going to have a problem.

01:23:42.000 Morality aside, you know,

01:23:45.000 You can't just almost, like, almost get out of control with it and have more advantages than there are, uh, straight, whatever, cis, whatever you want to call people that aren't, you know, of, or support that or, um, are in that community.

01:23:59.000 So that's where I would stand on the rights.

01:24:02.000 I think everyone should have human equal rights and I think they do, but people also have the right to refuse things because of what an organization or what people belong to.

01:24:15.000 I mean, if I'm like a... I don't know.

01:24:17.000 If I'm like a drug abuser, you could probably fire me for being a drug abuser.

01:24:21.000 I'm a self-identified heroin addict.

01:24:23.000 Like, okay, you're fired, you know?

01:24:24.000 But you're not always a drug abuser, right?

01:24:27.000 Like, you can get help, you can go to, like, you know, counseling and whatnot.

01:24:29.000 Sure, but I can fire you from your job.

01:24:30.000 You can remedy flaws within your behavior to make yourself a better person, right? 1.00

01:24:33.000 I agree, and homosexuals can stop having homosexual sex. 1.00

01:24:35.000 But like, part of your identity is something that is unchangeable, right? 0.99

01:24:37.000 Well, one is arbitrary.

01:24:38.000 One is arbitrary.

01:24:39.000 One at a time.

01:24:40.000 One at a time.

01:24:41.000 Yeah, listen, talking over each other is not getting anything accomplished.

01:24:45.000 I agree.

01:24:45.000 Let's do this.

01:24:46.000 Was that question directed toward Nicholas?

01:24:49.000 Is that what that was?

01:24:50.000 That was directed towards Christian?

01:24:52.000 It was just for everyone.

01:24:54.000 It was for him?

01:24:55.000 Okay.

01:24:56.000 We can go first and then we'll go from there, there, there.

01:24:59.000 So what's the question?

01:24:59.000 If you message me or any other co-hosts, I'll unmute you because you have a good question.

01:25:02.000 You don't have your hand raised, dog.

01:25:03.000 I'm not going to unmute you.

01:25:04.000 I'm not going to look at the messages.

01:25:05.000 I'm sorry.

01:25:07.000 I mean, I'm going to... Right now, we are purely basing the hand raises on who raised their hand first.

01:25:12.000 There's a literal list that we can look down at who's on top of what.

01:25:15.000 Yeah, let's unmute Rylan.

01:25:17.000 Rylan's had his hand raised from the beginning.

01:25:19.000 Hold on.

01:25:20.000 We'll let Nick... Let Nicholas answer the question and then we can do that.

01:25:25.000 Then we can move on.

01:25:26.000 So what exactly was the question?

01:25:27.000 How, what if your behavior is your identity?

01:25:31.000 Is that right?

01:25:32.000 Basically, it's sexuality choice.

01:25:33.000 There you go.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, I would not contest that, you know.

01:25:49.000 People's preferences arise from unconscious factors or involuntary factors.

01:25:54.000 But, you know, whether or not to act on them is a choice.

01:25:57.000 And so we're talking about, you know, homosexual is, you know, the same sex attracted person is different than someone who engages in homosexual sex.

01:26:05.000 And so that's a distinction I would make.

01:26:07.000 And under that, I mean, I mean, everybody should have legal protections if you're attracted to whoever or whatever.

01:26:13.000 But the question becomes when you act and when you act, then it's different.

01:26:18.000 Yeah, but couldn't you apply that to gender as well?

01:26:20.000 And, like, sex?

01:26:21.000 Like, you know, your identity is male, but, you know, you can kind of choose if you want to act on it.

01:26:25.000 You don't choose to be a woman. 1.00

01:26:26.000 Um, sure, but you can choose if you want to act in the societal way that women are portrayed, right? 1.00

01:26:30.000 But woman is not an action. 1.00

01:26:31.000 Homosexual sex is an action. 1.00

01:26:33.000 Um, sure, but generally, like, we would agree that there's a societal consensus surrounding, like, gender roles and gender norms, right?

01:26:39.000 And so, if you want to... Yeah, and one can, uh, choose to wear a dress or wear a shirt, but that's not being a man or a woman. 0.88

01:26:45.000 So then doesn't the argument kind of, like, logically follow, right?

01:26:46.000 Well, I don't believe that gender and sex are different.

01:26:48.000 I think gender and sex are the same thing.

01:26:50.000 Well, they're the same thing.

01:26:50.000 They should definitely agree with you on this, right?

01:26:52.000 Well, then you should definitely see the flaw in your argument here.

01:26:54.000 No, I think your argument's wrong.

01:26:56.000 My argument?

01:26:56.000 You're in favor of rebellion against God.

01:26:59.000 Well, no.

01:26:59.000 The thing is, your argument can literally be used in gender and sex.

01:27:02.000 I think you're simping for homosexuality, which is offensive to me. 0.84

01:27:07.000 If you're coming from a moral standpoint, dawg,

01:27:11.000 There's going to be so many different opinions because a lot of people have different morals, so you'll never get someone to sway off of pure morals.

01:27:18.000 Now, if you want to talk about the gender and sex difference, that is, you can say it's scientifical, it is definitely a very moral question, so you're never going to get someone to disagree if they have different morals, unless you can really sway them, you're not going to get someone to really 100% disagree if you just come head first with the morality

01:27:36.000 Wait, so Nicholas, do you just think if people are homosexual, they should just not act on that? 0.97

01:27:41.000 And just have sex with them? 1.00

01:27:43.000 They should just suck it up? 1.00

01:27:44.000 You can put the same thought about religious values and all of that.

01:27:47.000 I think about so many different things.

01:27:49.000 It's like a slippery slope right there.

01:27:51.000 I'm a Christian.

01:27:52.000 I believe that people should obey God.

01:27:54.000 Can I say something?

01:27:55.000 But not everyone is Christian.

01:27:58.000 Not everyone has your same beliefs.

01:28:00.000 Not everyone should believe what you believe.

01:28:02.000 That's the freedom of religion.

01:28:03.000 If people start talking over one another, we're just going to start muting people because it's not accomplishing anything.

01:28:15.000 I'm not triggered.

01:28:16.000 I just want to say, like, as a Christian, yeah, like, I disagree with homosexuality, but it's, like, it's not up to us to decide, and we shouldn't be saying, like, like, it's not a very Christian thing to say that everyone should be Christian.

01:28:27.000 Like, yeah, I think it's a great religion, but no, you can't tell people how to live their lives, though, you know?

01:28:33.000 That's not up to us.

01:28:34.000 You can't play God.

01:28:36.000 If you are, if you are a Christian, right? 0.83

01:28:39.000 And you read the Bible.

01:28:40.000 And so, like I said, I'm a very strong Christian guy.

01:28:43.000 And at the basis of homosexuality and all that great stuff, I don't fundamentally agree with it. 0.99

01:28:48.000 I will never agree with it.

01:28:49.000 Now, does that mean I'm going to be mean to somebody about it?

01:28:51.000 No, because that is a Christian thing to do.

01:28:53.000 We're called to love everybody.

01:28:54.000 Now, with that being said, the Bible also calls for us to spread our religion and share the news.

01:29:00.000 So saying, wish everyone should be Christian and that everyone should be Christian, that is a very biblical belief.

01:29:06.000 So saying that it doesn't tell you to do that is you need to read the Bible a little bit more dog.

01:29:11.000 I'm telling you it's in there.

01:29:14.000 But now does that mean that we need to be disrespectful to people?

01:29:17.000 No, because that's what I mean.

01:29:19.000 It's like the way he's coming about it is disrespectful.

01:29:21.000 That's just, that's what I'm trying to say.

01:29:22.000 How am I disrespectful?

01:29:24.000 He's coming at it from a point of, this is what I believe, right?

01:29:27.000 If you're going to challenge my beliefs, I'm going to tell you, no, I don't believe that.

01:29:30.000 This is what I believe.

01:29:31.000 That's a, that's a morality thing.

01:29:36.000 Here's my question.

01:29:42.000 You believe that everybody should be a Christian, right?

01:29:44.000 So do you think that that should be lawfully enforced, or do you think that just you have pride in your Christian belief, therefore you think that other people should be Christians?

01:29:53.000 Well, I mean, what does enforcement look like?

01:29:55.000 Because, you know, I think there are laws, like in Russia, which make a lot of sense.

01:29:59.000 You know, I think, like, decency laws would be great.

01:30:01.000 I think that regardless of whether or not... But those are moral.

01:30:04.000 Those are moral.

01:30:05.000 Like, that's a moral thing, not a Christian thing. 0.95

01:30:06.000 A lot of our laws come from morals, though.

01:30:08.000 But we need separation of church and state, obviously.

01:30:11.000 I'm not religious whatsoever in any form or manner, but I share morals with most Christians that I know.

01:30:20.000 Most of our laws come from a moral standpoint of a Christian. 0.97

01:30:24.000 That's just how we were.

01:30:25.000 I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong.

01:30:26.000 I'm just saying in the basic sense of our law and how society views certain things, a lot of the morals in America come from Christian values.

01:30:35.000 We were founded by Christians.

01:30:37.000 So Nick, can I address something real quick with the statement that you made?

01:30:41.000 Because I do take my Christian faith very seriously.

01:31:06.000 You know, and, and, and, you know, with my political values, you know, I try not to, I try not to, you know, make the assumption that, you know, my political values have to be based upon my religion.

01:31:19.000 Um, so here, here's the truth that we need to understand as Christians.

01:31:24.000 And this is talking to them from a Christian standpoint is that.

01:31:28.000 We are supposed to teach, we're not supposed to direct.

01:31:33.000 So, by saying that everybody needs to be Christian, by saying that everybody has to be straight, that's not, you know, I'm trying to, we're doing a totally different thing than us just trying to say that, you know, okay, we don't agree with that.

01:31:52.000 But it is an imperative that, I mean, if you're a Christian, you're, I mean, we are the body of the Church.

01:31:58.000 And so, it's not like this, you know, I'm Catholic, and I know, you know, it is, broadly speaking, a Christian country, which we just went over, but the Catholic interpretation is that it's not just about the salvation of the individual, but the collective salvation.

01:32:12.000 I'm kidding.

01:32:12.000 I'm joking.

01:32:13.000 Everybody relax.

01:32:28.000 We are called to say that, I mean, yes, if you're Christian, you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and everybody ought to be Christian.

01:32:36.000 I'm not saying, like, I'm going to force you to be.

01:32:38.000 I'm just saying, look, I believe.

01:32:40.000 And if you believe, you take it seriously.

01:32:42.000 A lot of Christians are very fair-weather, and they say,

01:32:45.000 I'm Christian like it's a hobby, like you're a fisherman or something. 0.99

01:32:48.000 It's like, no, you know, if God is real and Jesus is his son, then everybody should be on board.

01:32:53.000 And we want everybody to be on board.

01:32:55.000 And there comes at that some seriousness.

01:32:56.000 And that means that people are doing bad things, especially children.

01:33:00.000 We should not let them go astray like that.

01:33:02.000 And that particularly comes with decency laws.

01:33:05.000 Decency laws are required because who is most affected by this kind of stuff?

01:33:10.000 It's children.

01:33:11.000 It's children being exposed to pornography. 0.53

01:33:13.000 It's children being exposed to adultery. 0.99

01:33:15.000 Children being exposed to homosexuality. 0.99

01:33:18.000 And their souls are damned to hell based on something they had no choice in. 0.97

01:33:21.000 Based on something that was broadcast on the internet or television.

01:33:24.000 And the government must step up and protect them.

01:33:27.000 I thought you said that people have a choice to act based upon their identities.

01:33:30.000 What do you mean they don't have a choice, right?

01:33:32.000 Can you repeat the question?

01:33:33.000 You're kind of doing this rambling autism thing.

01:33:35.000 Can you repeat it clearly, please?

01:33:39.000 Okay, so Nick, you said earlier it's a choice if you wish to act upon your identity, right?

01:33:45.000 And I think we both agree that gay people don't choose to be gay, right? 0.97

01:33:49.000 So then why are you looking at people and saying, oh man, these children are witnessing these degenerate acts and it's going to have some profound negative impact on them if they see a gay man kissing or holding hands, right? 0.69

01:33:58.000 But in reality,

01:34:00.000 Like, it's not going to impact whether or not they're gay.

01:34:02.000 Of course it does.

01:34:06.000 I don't agree with that statement, Christian.

01:34:09.000 I'm not saying that they might become same-sex attracted, but maybe same-sex attracted people or people leaning that way might think it's appropriate to follow through on those things.

01:34:17.000 You normalize certain things.

01:34:19.000 It's in the same way that

01:34:20.000 And it objectifies females as well. 0.99

01:34:22.000 Nicholas is answering the question from his Christian side, as a lot of us are from our moral standpoints.

01:34:47.000 So you say the thing is like always being hateful, but that's just what he believes.

01:34:52.000 I just want to know, do you believe Jesus was black?

01:34:55.000 No, I believe Jesus was white. 0.56

01:34:59.000 It doesn't matter.

01:35:00.000 It doesn't matter if Jesus was Asian, Latino, Middle Eastern.

01:35:05.000 It doesn't matter what he was.

01:35:06.000 It sounds like you're joking.

01:35:08.000 Middle Eastern.

01:35:09.000 Middle Eastern.

01:35:09.000 He was Middle Eastern though.

01:35:22.000 Well, according to him, I guess they look better.

01:35:34.000 How does he keep getting on my main screen?

01:35:55.000 It's because Maddie is objectifying men. 1.00

01:36:01.000 I go to gallery view and this guy just pops up every two minutes.

01:36:07.000 I don't think it's Maddie.

01:36:11.000 I'm literally on my phone the whole time.

01:36:13.000 Well guess who's co-host?

01:36:16.000 He and Fatty.

01:36:17.000 And me and Fatty are putting Tommy on the screen.

01:36:19.000 It's not me.

01:36:22.000 I'm dipping!

01:36:22.000 What do you mean?

01:36:23.000 I'm doing the Spiderman onesie.

01:36:26.000 Tommy, I love you too!

01:36:27.000 It's okay though, you can't get on the screen.

01:36:31.000 I may have brought him here.

01:36:32.000 I don't know.

01:36:35.000 I mean, it's a good question.

01:36:37.000 You just, the problem with when people ask that question is you're not going to, unless someone, when someone's really strong in their morals, they're just not going to budge.

01:36:43.000 I mean, I'm the same way.

01:36:44.000 I'm not going to budge.

01:36:45.000 Like Nick's argument, right?

01:36:46.000 Like it can be extended to like anything.

01:36:49.000 And in reality, like, even if like something is normalized within our culture, I mean, we'd make the same argument.

01:36:53.000 People still act based upon their impulses.

01:36:55.000 So therefore, like, you know, there's still, it's like, it's no bueno, right?

01:37:00.000 I mean, you can disagree with the Christians on a fundamental level, so here's the thing I'm going to say. 0.75

01:37:04.000 You can say, you know, you can bring up all these arguments, that's cool.

01:37:07.000 Would you rather have us Christians disagree with you on a moral level and really say we want to take action but we're not, or you want to go over to the Middle East where gays are being thrown off of roofs and hung from trees?

01:37:16.000 Well, the thing is, right, if Christians get to the level where they have control of, like, you know, and they implement, like, biblical law, it could potentially get to that level, right, like in the Middle East, like the biblical books are pretty similar.

01:37:28.000 No, yes. 0.99

01:37:29.000 No Christian in this call is saying we should kill gay people. 1.00

01:37:33.000 No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. 0.99

01:37:36.000 We're all equal.

01:37:38.000 Okay, so in the Old Testament, what you're talking about is Leviticus 20, 15, or 13?

01:37:42.000 13, yeah, okay.

01:37:44.000 Yeah, if a man lays with another man, as a man lays with... Abomination to God. 0.91

01:37:49.000 Can't that be interpreted as boy and pedophilia?

01:37:51.000 Wait, hold up.

01:37:52.000 No, hold on.

01:37:52.000 There's different interpretations of it.

01:37:54.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:37:56.000 That is Old Testament stuff.

01:37:57.000 Now, a lot of people say, well, that some Christians say Old Testament doesn't matter.

01:38:01.000 Can I step in?

01:38:02.000 Yeah.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, let Luke step in.

01:38:03.000 Okay.

01:38:04.000 So there's moral laws and ceremonial laws in the Bible.

01:38:07.000 Moral laws, like that includes adultery, idolatry, lying, stealing, blasphemy, and homosexuality. 0.88

01:38:15.000 Those are moral laws in the Bible.

01:38:17.000 Then there's ceremonial laws in the Bible, such as eating pork.

01:38:20.000 There's sacrificial laws. 0.99

01:38:22.000 There's dietary laws, wearing wool and linen in the same fabric.

01:38:25.000 Yeah, there's a whole lot more.

01:38:28.000 There's a whole lot more.

01:38:30.000 And the ceremonial laws are the ones that went away when Jesus died on the cross.

01:38:35.000 Those are the ones that went away.

01:38:36.000 We're not connected to those anymore.

01:38:38.000 But the moral laws are the laws that stand with us forever.

01:38:41.000 So that argument is completely false when it comes to them saying, oh, it's Old Testament law.

01:38:47.000 That doesn't matter anymore.

01:38:51.000 I would like to point out, though, that in Hebrew, the same

01:38:54.000 That's not a moral law.

01:39:17.000 But it is a moral law.

01:39:18.000 Okay.

01:39:18.000 Hold on.

01:39:19.000 Look, the problem you have with translating the Bible is because of the languages it was written in.

01:39:23.000 A lot of them have a bunch of different words.

01:39:24.000 There's a Bible, the verse in the Bible that a lot of people use to justify slavery back in the day was something about slaves should obey their master.

01:39:30.000 Slave also means the same thing in the Bible as bond servant.

01:39:32.000 Bond servant also means same thing as an indentured servant.

01:39:35.000 Not in the fact of slavery as in like how we had slaves, you know what I mean?

01:39:39.000 So there are, hold on, I'm trying to do this.

01:39:41.000 There are a couple of different things that you can have trouble with when you're translating it from one language to another.

01:39:47.000 I mean, here's the thing that, you know, we can, you know, you can have, you can try to discredit the Bible if you would like, you know, because you disagree with it or something like that.

01:39:56.000 And that's fine.

01:39:58.000 Um, it's, it's, it's just, it's our moral code based upon our religion.

01:40:02.000 And so, you know, we're going to, we're going to follow our moral code.

01:40:05.000 We're going to follow our religion.

01:40:06.000 However, the only part I disagree with Nick on this factor is just.

01:40:10.000 I personally believe God gave man free will.

01:40:12.000 It's not our job to direct people what they should and shouldn't be doing.

01:40:16.000 You can do what you choose to do.

01:40:18.000 However, me and you are going to face the, you know, we're going to have to face God and we're going to have to face judgment for the sins that we commit.

01:40:26.000 And so, you know, I'm not going to force you to act a certain way.

01:40:29.000 However, you're going to have to, you know, face judgment just like I do.

01:40:32.000 I'm not going to force anybody.

01:40:33.000 I never said that.

01:40:35.000 I was raised in a Christian household and I think that Christian morals are definitely good morals.

01:40:42.000 I share morals.

01:40:43.000 My morals pretty well aligned with Christian morals.

01:40:45.000 However, I don't, I think there's a difference between having pride in your religion and wanting others to practice your religion and thinking that everybody needs to practice your religion.

01:40:54.000 I think those are two completely different things.

01:40:55.000 Every religion thinks that everyone should practice their religion.

01:41:00.000 There's different ways that they go about it.

01:41:02.000 Christians tend to... But this country is founded on the idea that not everybody should be forced to practice the same religion. 0.89

01:41:10.000 We're not about to be forced, nobody's talking about forced.

01:41:15.000 Any religion would want the entire world to practice their... Islam would want the entire world to be Muslim. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Buddhists would want the entire world to be Buddhist. 0.99

01:41:23.000 So on and so forth.

01:41:24.000 Now,

01:41:26.000 Like I said, every religion thinks that every religion, there are some extremists in every religion that be like, look, we need to enforce this.

01:41:31.000 It needs to be a law.

01:41:32.000 Now, that's not speaking for the majority of people, but if you are strong in your morals, it would make sense as to why you would think this needs to be enforced, right?

01:41:41.000 You think everyone should, you would think everyone needs to follow this.

01:41:44.000 Why aren't they all doing this?

01:41:45.000 God, if you're a Christian God, like he said, God gave everybody free will.

01:41:49.000 Now, do we share the news and try and bring up as many believers as we can?

01:41:53.000 Yeah.

01:41:55.000 But we're also called to know that we have, that have free will, we're also called to love our neighbor as ourselves.

01:42:00.000 So at the same time, you can't take that to be hateful towards someone else, you know what I mean?

01:42:05.000 Yeah, yeah, I understand you.

01:42:07.000 I have an interesting question I think for Nick, and it kind of relates to like the normalization like gay culture and whatnot.

01:42:13.000 I guess my question is like, you know,

01:42:17.000 No, this normalization of gay culture- I'm lagging a second. 0.97

01:42:20.000 Alright, I'm back.

01:42:20.000 Anyway, like, if this normalization of gay culture is- it wouldn't be good because, like, people were able to resist it, right?

01:42:25.000 Those who are strong and worthy in the way of God are more- like, those people who we know are, like, you know, good with God are gonna make it into heaven and those who are degenerate won't, right?

01:42:35.000 So wouldn't you want this normalization to ensure that those who are strong enough to resist

01:42:39.000 The degeneracy will go to heaven.

01:42:41.000 I don't know what the hell you're talking about. 0.97

01:42:43.000 Oh, you do. 0.94

01:42:44.000 You do know what I'm talking about.

01:42:46.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.

01:42:47.000 I'll answer that one.

01:42:48.000 No, wait, wait.

01:42:49.000 It was addressed to me.

01:42:50.000 I mean, the question... I mean, maybe you're talking about the elect or something.

01:42:53.000 I don't know.

01:42:54.000 I mean, I'm a Christian.

01:42:55.000 I believe in free will.

01:42:56.000 People can choose to sin.

01:42:58.000 They can choose to confess.

01:42:59.000 And how does it let down that path?

01:43:01.000 Hey, can you let me finish?

01:43:02.000 Can you let me finish with this guy over here with the interruptions?

01:43:06.000 Free for all, all of a sudden.

01:43:07.000 Wow, wow.

01:43:10.000 To the point, though, people have a choice whether or not they want to sin or whether they want to not to sin.

01:43:20.000 The thing about sin, though, is that it's addictive.

01:43:22.000 I mean, that's the problem, particularly pornography, a lot of these things, and it is difficult.

01:43:27.000 We do not start out together with God, right?

01:43:30.000 Because of

01:43:31.000 Because of our fallen nature, it is in our nature to go away from God.

01:43:36.000 And if things exacerbate that, or facilitate that, or push us down that path, it's going to be a lot harder to come back to God.

01:43:43.000 People that, if you're a young kid, and you grow up watching

01:43:47.000 Glee or modern family or pornography or whatever and you think that certain things are acceptable or okay, and you start down on that path It's a lot harder to find your way back We want people to never leave want people to stay with God with the church and so on not stray and so in order to protect those people we absolutely need decency laws we're not talking about like

01:44:07.000 A theocratic kind of a thing.

01:44:09.000 But you look in Russia and they just have reasonable standards on what is and what is not permitted.

01:44:13.000 This is not crazy.

01:44:14.000 They have laws in the world where they ban pornography.

01:44:17.000 They have laws in the world where they ban indecent things on television. 0.98

01:44:20.000 And people can find ways around that if they're total deviants.

01:44:24.000 You know, people can do what they want inside their homes, but what's happening now is people are not doing it in their homes.

01:44:29.000 Under the aegis, they say, well, people can do what they want in their bedrooms, but it's not in their bedrooms anymore.

01:44:34.000 It's in public schools.

01:44:35.000 It's on the Super Bowl.

01:44:36.000 It's on TV.

01:44:37.000 It's in libraries.

01:44:39.000 It's in the parades.

01:44:40.000 They're walking down the streets.

01:44:41.000 That's not in the privacy of your own home.

01:44:43.000 That's not your bedroom.

01:44:44.000 That's the public square.

01:44:45.000 And I think we should keep the public square relatively safe and normal and keep to that Christian core. 1.00

01:44:51.000 I mean, on the fact of decency laws, like, I get that.

01:44:54.000 I mean, if you look at, like, Japanese, they censor about everything, man. 1.00

01:44:58.000 And I would argue that they're not 100%.

01:44:59.000 I mean, they're not as nowhere as Christian as American is, or America is, you know what I mean? 0.94

01:45:05.000 Like, so they censor everything.

01:45:07.000 Yeah, they're not Christian at all. 0.90

01:45:08.000 It's like, I mean, they censor, I mean, everything.

01:45:11.000 So it's China in terms of inappropriate images.

01:45:14.000 So,

01:45:15.000 Can I respond to Nick real quick?

01:45:17.000 Yeah, you can.

01:45:17.000 Alright, so as a Christian, I feel like if people are too weak to resist this degenerate culture, with free will and whatnot, then I don't think we want them in heaven, right?

01:45:28.000 I don't know what you're getting at here.

01:45:29.000 Sounds like a very mean, malicious, bad faith argument.

01:45:34.000 I'm not sure what you're getting at.

01:45:35.000 That's not Catholic doctrine.

01:45:38.000 I don't.

01:45:41.000 Are you saying that, okay, so let me see if I can try and word this question, and again, tell me if I'm wrong, because I don't want to put words in your mouth or try and take over what you're saying, but are you saying that for those people, like, okay,

01:45:54.000 Degenerates are too weak to... Okay, Adolf Hitler, right? 0.92

01:45:58.000 Let's say that.

01:45:59.000 You wouldn't want him to be in, you know, heaven with me, right?

01:46:03.000 You wouldn't want him to be your next-door neighbor and share the same crown as you do, right?

01:46:08.000 Is it something along those lines?

01:46:10.000 Like, why, at the end of the day, you feel like it's almost a cheat code where if, at the end of the day, like right before you die, it's like, I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

01:46:19.000 And then, like, all of a sudden, oh, well, he's in heaven, but didn't he mass kill a bunch of people?

01:46:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:46:23.000 Is that sort of what you're saying?

01:46:25.000 Or if I'm wrong, like I said, tell me.

01:46:26.000 No, I guess, like, my argument is, like, Nick is saying that we need to protect people from, like, the normalization of this culture because it will undermine their capacity to go to heaven, right?

01:46:33.000 Well, I think if their capacity is going to be undermined and they're not strong enough to the will of God, then they probably shouldn't get a ticket into heaven in the first place.

01:46:40.000 Is that your belief, or are you being funny?

01:46:43.000 It's my belief, as a Christian.

01:46:45.000 You're a Christian?

01:46:46.000 Yes, I am a Christian.

01:46:47.000 So you want people to sin and then go to hell, you think?

01:46:50.000 What kind of Christianity is that? 0.82

01:46:53.000 Well, I mean, it's called Christianity for those who withstand the morals of God. 0.90

01:46:58.000 But Jesus knows that we're going to sin, right?

01:47:01.000 He knows that.

01:47:02.000 That's why we sent Jesus Christ as a sacrificial lamb down to take away all those future sins.

01:47:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:09.000 Like people, people are going to sin.

01:47:11.000 People are going to do terrible things.

01:47:12.000 But I mean, like I said, we're washed as the Bible says, we're washed in the blood of Christ.

01:47:17.000 Now, is that a free pass to go and do whatever?

01:47:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:21.000 Like, okay, I'm washing the blood of Christ. 0.99

01:47:22.000 I'm gonna go to, I'm gonna go down to the, uh, you know, the whatever popular, like, okay, we'll go down to the arcade and kill a bunch of people. 0.98

01:47:29.000 And then, oh, I'm still good though. 0.92

01:47:30.000 Like, no, you're still gonna have to answer for that.

01:47:32.000 Why are you killing people in the arcade?

01:47:34.000 You have to, you have to have repentant faith in Jesus.

01:47:39.000 You don't have, you don't have the DNA for that, so don't worry about it.

01:47:44.000 I don't know.

01:47:45.000 Genetically not predisposed.

01:47:46.000 I kid you.

01:47:47.000 I don't care.

01:47:48.000 I kid you.

01:47:50.000 Yeah, that's the first time we heard that all night.

01:47:52.000 I know, right?

01:47:53.000 What is it?

01:47:55.000 Alright, so Nick, I'm not sure how much more time you have, but we do want to try to get a few more audience questions, I guess.

01:48:03.000 I have a question for Nick, actually.

01:48:05.000 Who's that?

01:48:07.000 Ben.

01:48:09.000 So Nick, as a fellow Christian, Matthew 7-3 says, why do you look at the speck in your neighbor's eye, but ignore the plank in your own eye?

01:48:19.000 So, as Christians, we are told to focus on our own sins more than to focus on others.

01:48:24.000 So, why are you so for condemning gays and stuff when Jesus literally tells us that we should be focusing on ourselves more than focusing on other sins?

01:48:33.000 I don't know where... Judge righteously.

01:48:35.000 Yeah, I don't know where people are getting this idea that we're like... I'm saying one thing and people are hearing something else.

01:48:40.000 I'm saying, well, no, no, Jesus says this is wrong, this is, you know, what is right and what is wrong.

01:48:46.000 I'm non-denominational.

01:48:47.000 Alright, so I see there's a person here named Chris that's had their hands cut for a little bit, so we're gonna just let them talk, because I think we have a question for them.

01:49:15.000 So, I have sort of something to respond to what Christian said about people not deserving to go to heaven.

01:49:40.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:49:41.000 I don't know if we're reading the same Bible here, but if your god thinks that...

01:49:46.000 It's okay for just people to burn in hell just because?

01:49:49.000 Because like, God loves all of his children and he weeps for every soul damned to hell.

01:49:55.000 He wants everyone to come with him in the kingdom of heaven.

01:49:57.000 If you think that God is happy that those people are going to hell, then you're wrong.

01:50:03.000 You're wrong.

01:50:03.000 God wants everyone to repent for their sins and join him in the kingdom of heaven.

01:50:07.000 If you think that these people deserve to go down to hell for sinning,

01:50:15.000 And, you know, if we're being exposed to sin, or being predisposed to it, then that's... I just think that's disgusting, you know, in my personal opinion.

01:50:26.000 I never said personally that I believe God laughs when people go to hell.

01:50:31.000 No, you're right.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, he wants everybody to come to heaven.

01:50:34.000 I don't... Like, I could have missed it.

01:50:37.000 I could have missed it where... Very good faith and civil tactics, I see there.

01:50:41.000 I couldn't I could I kind of missed it where I mean you could tell me who said that like I never caught myself or never even said that I think God laughs when people go to hell no I mean we all I mean me as a Christian I don't know I can I feel like I can speak for a lot of Christians in here I believe that we would want a lot of other people we would want everybody to go to heaven right we want to share the gospel and and let people know that look

01:51:04.000 This is your way to come and get in heaven.

01:51:05.000 Now, will they have to answer for the sins that they have done?

01:51:08.000 Yes.

01:51:09.000 In the Bible, we talk about, obviously they're, you know, we're getting into some deep revelation stuff now, but will we all have like, you know, like crowns in heaven and then people will have different jewels in their crowns and whatnot, depending on, you know, what they did down here, you know, you know, yes.

01:51:23.000 I think there's been a bit of a misunderstanding.

01:51:25.000 I meant Christian, the person who was, who was, um, talking to Nick earlier, who said that people being predisposed to sin can't, 0.67

01:51:34.000 People who are predisposed to sin and can't resist it deserve to go to hell.

01:51:38.000 I just think that's, like, completely backwards and wrong.

01:51:42.000 And I don't think that you're a proper Christian if you don't think God wants all of his children to be with him in heaven.

01:51:48.000 Yeah, you said Christian, and then I was like... Nah, yeah, I meant the guy named... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:53.000 He's waving down in there on the bottom.

01:51:54.000 We're on the same point then.

01:51:56.000 It looks like him and Will are trying to scream.

01:51:58.000 I think I would like to get to more, like, other points other than just, like, battling who's the better Christian over here. 0.61

01:52:06.000 Yeah, I want to talk to some other people as well.

01:52:11.000 Hold on, wait.

01:52:12.000 Hang on, pause.

01:52:13.000 Who's asking their question?

01:52:21.000 Go ahead, Jordan.

01:52:21.000 Jordan was talking.

01:52:22.000 Jesus Christ, what is that?

01:52:23.000 Oh, I was just gonna say that, like, I feel like we've talked about a bunch of social issues.

01:52:27.000 I feel like we should switch more towards, like, economic issues and how you feel on those.

01:52:30.000 I don't have any specific questions, but I was just wondering your perspective on that.

01:52:34.000 I have a question.

01:52:35.000 So, if people have questions on those, I'd recommend them.

01:52:37.000 I know, like, not all of you are, but a lot of you guys care so much about someone's religion, and I don't understand why. 0.98

01:52:44.000 Like, personally, I don't give a fuck what your religion is. 0.96

01:52:46.000 I care about the economic values. 0.99

01:52:48.000 I care about the political things.

01:52:51.000 At the end of the day, don't get me wrong, I'm a Catholic, but why do you guys care so much?

01:52:55.000 I mean, isn't it better to expand the audience?

01:52:57.000 Just my interpretation, it's my interpretation of my belief in the Bible.

01:53:02.000 You know, I do care a lot about Christianity.

01:53:04.000 Honestly, in my opinion, it's definitely God over politics any time.

01:53:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:53:10.000 So yeah, like, or God over honestly anything, you know?

01:53:14.000 So,

01:53:15.000 I definitely believe, like, I care a lot about Christianity more.

01:53:21.000 I care a lot about a lot of other things, because I think Christianity can speak on a lot of different things that are going on.

01:53:26.000 But, like, specifically for politics, like, I get, like, you know, defending church and stuff.

01:53:30.000 Don't get me wrong, I'm completely behind it all.

01:53:32.000 Right.

01:53:32.000 But, specifically, like, Nick, I don't want to misconstrue you, so don't let me, like, say something incorrect, but aren't you more so trying to focus on a base that's Christian rather than expanding into other backgrounds?

01:53:44.000 Um, well, I don't really look at it like that.

01:53:46.000 I'm not like a politician.

01:53:47.000 So I'm not like, you know, looking at different groups.

01:53:49.000 I mean, I put my message out there and it's a Christian message.

01:53:52.000 And a lot of people actually that watch my show are people that were formerly atheists.

01:53:57.000 And because I talk a lot about Christianity and why I'm Christian, they end up converting or they end up becoming Catholic or whatever.

01:54:03.000 So I think that my message appeals to

01:54:06.000 Anybody who thinks about existential questions.

01:54:09.000 I give my perspective as a Christian on how I arrive at certain conclusions or whatever, but it's not really directed.

01:54:15.000 It's probably actually not directed at Christians, because there's a lot of Christians that know way more about the Bible or way more about history and theology than I do.

01:54:23.000 So, I would say that it's actually- So, like, to be clear, you don't care about, like, anyone of any different religion, or, like, atheists, like, who stay atheists, who, like, support you and are behind your movement, and you'd be like, alright, cool, join me?

01:54:33.000 I'm just curious because like I've heard some things about you where you only want Christian people and like don't get me wrong I met you in person and everyone told me you were racist and stuff and I was like this guy doesn't seem racist I mean

01:54:47.000 I'm a nice guy. 0.88

01:54:48.000 I like everybody, but I don't know what you mean by like... That was in my video I got with you, but like, I was just curious about that, because like, I think it's stupid for people to try to only have Christians in the Republican Party or conservative movements.

01:55:00.000 Oh yeah, no, I wouldn't say that we only want... I mean, we want as many people as would support.

01:55:05.000 I mean, I think because I'm a Christian, my message appeals to Christians, you know, just like conservatives would want conservatives, but

01:55:11.000 I mean, of course, if people want to put America first and they happen to be of a different religion, then I'm not going to say, no, no, you know, be a liberal.

01:55:18.000 Don't watch my show. 0.95

01:55:19.000 You know, that would be silly.

01:55:20.000 I also think a lot of the Republican beliefs and not, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of them come from Christian beliefs as well, or at least lean a little bit off of Christian belief.

01:55:29.000 You know, that's where I feel like it comes in a little bit.

01:55:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:35.000 Okay, alright, moving away from Christianity, because we've talked about that for quite some time now. 0.99

01:55:40.000 Hey, does anybody actually have, because what I'm going to do here is I'm going to unraise all the hands, and if somebody actually has a policy-type question, then go ahead and raise your hand once again.

01:55:52.000 Oh, no, never mind.

01:55:57.000 Here, I have one.

01:55:58.000 I have one.

01:55:58.000 I'm going to keep that buried.

01:55:59.000 There's Ben.

01:56:00.000 Ben is the first person who raises his hand.

01:56:02.000 Is this Ben from Indiana, Ben?

01:56:04.000 Yeah, that's Indiana, Ben, I think.

01:56:06.000 This is Indiana Schwizzy!

01:56:08.000 What's good?

01:56:10.000 So my question is, what do you guys think?

01:56:13.000 We talked a couple days ago about Boeing and the bailout.

01:56:16.000 Do you guys think it is in the right state of handling this?

01:56:22.000 To bail out a company that was literally borrowing tons of money to complete stock buybacks to raise their share price when they've been so successful over the last 20 years with government contracts that they haven't been able to accumulate any wealth to protect themselves in case of an emergency, but continuously borrowed money to increase their stock value and their profit line for their shareholders.

01:56:45.000 I think that comes out of like, the only reason I guess I could agree that on the, at least the keeping them like in business or whatever, increasing the stock prices is what they do with the money.

01:56:56.000 Obviously it's probably not good, but you said they have government contracts, right?

01:57:01.000 You know, they can pull out of those contracts and then we're going to be in some trouble.

01:57:04.000 They also provide a lot of the majority of air travel and air transport.

01:57:08.000 So those companies sometimes need to stay afloat for that reason. 0.97

01:57:11.000 Other than we'll say, Oh crap.

01:57:13.000 Well, you know, they're just trying to do that to boost their stocks. 0.82

01:57:16.000 Yeah.

01:57:16.000 But sometimes like in order to keep them happy and to keep them somewhere we can, they're usable.

01:57:21.000 You got to do it.

01:57:22.000 Sometimes it's a necessary, almost a necessary evil, but not in the same sense as,

01:57:28.000 Like saying, we'll just give them all the money they ever heart's desire.

01:57:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:33.000 Well, I just want to say if it's based on that study about Bloomberg and it was almost in a sense, it was made to look like all the industries did that.

01:57:43.000 There was really one big outlier when it came to that, it was American Airlines.

01:57:48.000 So I just want to put that out there.

01:57:50.000 And when we're talking about buying back stocks, most of it comes from free flow cash.

01:57:54.000 Um, and a lot of those companies actually, after you spend money invested back into your business, whether that's, um, raises, uh, infrastructure and all those things, the money left over is what they usually use for those types of things.

01:58:08.000 And it was really mainly American Airlines, not anybody else that was doing all those things.

01:58:12.000 I just want to put that out there real quick.

01:58:15.000 So it wasn't the whole industry.

01:58:16.000 So, but if we want to do enough American Airlines, I will agree with you on that one. 0.97

01:58:20.000 They trash. 0.98

01:58:21.000 I don't like them anyway. 0.99

01:58:22.000 They had me stuck in the middle.

01:58:23.000 Hey, my dad works for them.

01:58:25.000 Dude, I'm a big dude.

01:58:27.000 And every time I cross like an aisle seat, I get stuck in the middle.

01:58:32.000 So I hate American Airlines.

01:58:33.000 Hey, I'll take it up with my dad.

01:58:35.000 If we can change that.

01:58:37.000 Nick has a question.

01:58:37.000 He's been wanting to ask that for a while.

01:58:40.000 Wait, Nick who?

01:58:42.000 Nick.

01:58:42.000 He's working at MIC.

01:58:43.000 He's got his hand raised.

01:58:44.000 Oh, Nick.

01:58:45.000 I was like, what?

01:58:46.000 Okay.

01:58:47.000 Nicky, Nicky.

01:58:51.000 Where's Mick at?

01:58:54.000 Ben, good question though.

01:58:55.000 I'm kind of confused.

01:58:57.000 Where's Mick?

01:58:58.000 Mick.

01:59:00.000 After this one, can I take a quick bathroom break?

01:59:02.000 I'll do this one.

01:59:04.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:59:08.000 Can you think about, can you just, did Commy stay over for Christmas? 0.75

01:59:11.000 I'm kind of concerned.

01:59:12.000 Did what?

01:59:14.000 Did Commy end up staying over for Christmas?

01:59:17.000 What's Commy? 0.51

01:59:19.000 Go ahead and take your bathroom break.

01:59:22.000 Cammy?

01:59:23.000 Oh, oh, I see.

01:59:25.000 I see you're trying to do the disingenuous game.

01:59:27.000 That's very funny.

01:59:29.000 Is there another question?

01:59:40.000 Stop.

01:59:41.000 Like, it's disrespectful at this point, okay?

01:59:44.000 Have a level of respect for everybody that we're gonna hold, because if we want to respect him, he's gotta respect us.

01:59:49.000 Don't just talk over people, it's annoying.

01:59:53.000 I totally agree.

01:59:54.000 Listen, you know, it's- it's fine if you want to have your, you know, jokes and stuff, you know?

01:59:59.000 But there's a time and place for all that, and if we're gonna have a discussion here, then we're gonna keep it civil.

02:00:04.000 Right.

02:00:05.000 He doesn't have to- he doesn't have to stay here and answer questions if we're not gonna be civil, that's the truth of it.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, you can go take your bathroom break.

02:00:11.000 I ain't holding it.

02:00:12.000 Yeah, I'm gonna run.

02:00:12.000 I'll be back in like two minutes.

02:00:14.000 I've just been watching Gatorade here for like three hours.

02:00:17.000 But I'll be back in a sec.

02:00:19.000 Make sure you turn your mic off.

02:00:20.000 We don't want to hear it.

02:00:23.000 Alright.

02:00:24.000 I guess we can still take questions.

02:00:26.000 Reese, did you find Mick on the list?

02:00:29.000 I did.

02:00:29.000 I looked up Mick.

02:00:31.000 Oh, M-I-K. 1.00

02:00:32.000 I looked up M-I-C-K. 1.00

02:00:34.000 M-I-K. 1.00

02:00:43.000 While he is gone on his bathroom break, I'm going to wish all of you a good night.

02:00:49.000 I do have work in the morning and I am like three hours past my bedtime.

02:00:52.000 Love you, Peter Griffin.

02:00:54.000 Thank you, Patty.

02:00:57.000 We'll see you all around.

02:00:58.000 See you, Steven.

02:01:02.000 Is it 3 in the morning for y'all too?

02:01:04.000 Oh yeah, it's 3 in the morning.

02:01:06.000 It's 1.30.

02:01:08.000 It's like only 11 for me.

02:01:09.000 That's why Central Time Zone is the best time zone.

02:01:12.000 Don't at me.

02:01:12.000 Joseph's been in here straight chillin'.

02:01:15.000 Yeah, Joseph's been in here straight chillin'.

02:01:17.000 Did we still have 100 people in here?

02:01:20.000 Wow.

02:01:21.000 Pretty cool.

02:01:21.000 I'm kinda, yeah, I'm kinda shocked we have 100 people in here with as late as it is, but I mean, hey, I guess Nick Fuentes... Dude, you know who I saw in here earlier?

02:01:27.000 I don't know if he's still in here.

02:01:29.000 I saw Hubert Gaddafi in here, brief.

02:01:32.000 I don't know if you guys know who that is, but uh... Is Nick still here?

02:01:37.000 I think he left.

02:01:39.000 Yeah.

02:01:40.000 Oh, it says he's still here.

02:01:41.000 Nick is right over there.

02:01:43.000 Who just messaged me, just, someone put a, someone put a vape on today.

02:01:46.000 Nick, we cannot hear you.

02:01:47.000 Yeah, we can't hear you, Nick.

02:01:50.000 I see you talking, we can't hear you.

02:01:52.000 Hey! 0.99

02:01:52.000 I see you, Jay! 0.99

02:01:54.000 Can't hear you, Nick.

02:01:55.000 Other than that, how's everybody's night going?

02:01:57.000 Other than the fact that there was a lot going on in the past.

02:01:59.000 Nick, check your mic settings on Zoom.

02:02:01.000 Make sure that you've got the right mic selected.

02:02:03.000 Is that Nick's videos?

02:02:08.000 Yeah.

02:02:10.000 Huge fan.

02:02:11.000 Nick, I'm a huge fan.

02:02:12.000 I love you.

02:02:13.000 I'll Venmo you 10 bucks. 0.98

02:02:14.000 Every time you bring your mic right here, it makes the most trash noise.

02:02:23.000 Can we get you guys to change your guys' background back to something that's appropriate for the discussion right now?

02:02:34.000 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

02:02:53.000 Yeah, we're trying to have like, you know, we try to have a civil discussions here.

02:02:56.000 We try to give everybody respect.

02:02:57.000 It's not acting like high school.

02:02:59.000 I love how this dude, I love how this dude changes background to Fox News.

02:03:02.000 Alright.

02:03:02.000 Let's just, let's just all be chill with each other and have fun.

02:03:06.000 Here goes, alright, here goes Mick's question towards Mr. Nicholas.

02:03:09.000 Can you guys hear me again or am I still muted?

02:03:11.000 Is Mick back?

02:03:11.000 Yeah, I'm here.

02:03:13.000 Hey, can you hear me?

02:03:14.000 Okay, alright, Nick.

02:03:15.000 Hey Nick, big fan from Scotland.

02:03:18.000 I've got the merch on.

02:03:19.000 Nice, looks good.

02:03:23.000 I had a question.

02:03:24.000 I think I'm probably going to know what you're going to say, but it could go to the other people as well.

02:03:30.000 Trump, throughout his presidency, has done a lot of things that are beneficial to Israel, and I want to know, not even in an Israel-Palestine sense, do you think the current state of Israel are being a good ally to the US and the West as a whole?

02:03:46.000 That's a great question!

02:03:47.000 The answer is definitely no.

02:03:51.000 They're not being a good ally, never have been.

02:03:54.000 And you know, we could go way back on this, and people like to go way back to like the Levon Affair, or like the USS Liberty, but we could even look at just this administration.

02:04:03.000 I mean, I believe that one of the first press conferences that Donald Trump had with a foreign dignitary was with Benjamin Netanyahu, right after the inauguration in 2017.

02:04:13.000 And at that press conference, Donald Trump said,

02:04:16.000 And in spite of everything we've given Israel just in the last three years, which is moving the embassy and recognizing the Golan Heights, their sovereignty, calling the IRGC a terrorist group.

02:04:24.000 I mean, the list goes on and on.

02:04:41.000 And not only do they not stop the settlements, they expand them at the most rapid pace in history, the biggest settlement expansion ever, like a week after that press conference.

02:04:50.000 And they bomb Syria, they bomb Iraq, they create these tensions with Syria and Iran.

02:04:57.000 So, I mean, just in the last three years, we have the spying scandal on the White House, just a treasure trove of things.

02:05:04.000 And that's just recently.

02:05:06.000 But don't you see it very important that we stay allies with one of the last democracies in the Middle East?

02:05:12.000 No.

02:05:12.000 No, I think they should be... Well, and here's to be serious, I think they should be more worried about keeping us as an ally.

02:05:19.000 I mean, why is it incumbent on us to pay them and give more stuff when there's no responsibility on their end to have any obligations or to be considerate of us?

02:05:29.000 You know, I mean, it's a two-way street.

02:05:31.000 Yeah, it should be a two-way street.

02:05:33.000 They have responsibilities.

02:05:34.000 We are the bigger nation.

02:05:35.000 We can support more.

02:05:37.000 We're good to go.

02:05:50.000 I think they're doing fine.

02:05:51.000 They got one of the best economies in the Middle East, one of the best and most sophisticated militaries in the world.

02:05:57.000 They've got a serious defense industry in Israel, more sophisticated than most.

02:06:00.000 Their tanks are more advanced than our Abrams.

02:06:03.000 What's that?

02:06:03.000 I said no.

02:06:04.000 I mean, you're right.

02:06:05.000 Their tanks, I think, are more technologically advanced than our Abrams are.

02:06:10.000 They're doing great over there.

02:06:11.000 They don't need our help.

02:06:12.000 And the thing is, maybe we could help them, but they just do nothing but slap us in the face.

02:06:16.000 The spying, the constant antagonism of Iran and Syria.

02:06:21.000 I mean, we are just like paying to get abused.

02:06:23.000 At a certain point, you got to rein them in, and we used to try to do that.

02:06:26.000 Hey Mick, can I ask you a question?

02:06:57.000 I live in a place called Falkirk, which is between Edinburgh and Glasgow.

02:07:02.000 It's like the second biggest town, but it's still pretty little.

02:07:06.000 No, see, I got a meet over in Edinburgh.

02:07:10.000 Did you say Edinburgh?

02:07:12.000 It's Edinburgh.

02:07:15.000 The way you'd say that is, oh, I've got a mate doing that, bro.

02:07:21.000 It's not, I've got a mate doing that.

02:07:26.000 He's working on teaching me.

02:07:27.000 I just, you know, we've got this whole coronavirus stuff, so he's stuck there.

02:07:32.000 So it's a little rough around the edges.

02:07:34.000 I've been moderating on Cam's server because I have nothing else to do.

02:07:38.000 It's 20 to 8 in the morning right now.

02:07:41.000 I haven't slept.

02:07:42.000 You know, it's kind of ruining the schedule.

02:07:44.000 But that's the thing, Nick.

02:07:45.000 I'm glad you're being, like, civil here.

02:07:47.000 Because I don't like, you know, neocons or whatever.

02:07:51.000 But, you know, you still gotta be civil.

02:07:53.000 Because we all come from, you know, libertarianism.

02:07:56.000 It's how we all get here.

02:07:58.000 So we shouldn't always be trying to antagonize people who are more moderate.

02:08:04.000 I agree.

02:08:04.000 That's a totally, and that's a very sensible take.

02:08:07.000 You look young and a lot of old people still don't understand this.

02:08:10.000 People that come from our political realm, you know, they come at it with, if you're not 100% and you're, you know, whatever.

02:08:17.000 So, yeah, you're totally right.

02:08:18.000 We all came here from Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder.

02:08:21.000 We all, you know.

02:08:23.000 That's even me.

02:08:24.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:08:25.000 I get that.

02:08:27.000 Relating to that.

02:08:28.000 All right.

02:08:29.000 Well, thank you.

02:08:30.000 Can I ask a quick question?

02:08:31.000 It's a yes or no for Nicholas.

02:08:33.000 Yeah.

02:08:34.000 Um, so, like, in past, like, YouTube videos, you semi-denied the Holocaust.

02:08:39.000 Do you believe the Holocaust happened?

02:08:42.000 Of course I believe.

02:08:43.000 I've never denied the Holocaust. 1.00

02:08:44.000 I make jokes that are edgy and then people say, oh, and this is the case of everything.

02:08:50.000 I've done, you know, more than a thousand hours of content.

02:08:53.000 It's largely a satire comedy show and people take obvious jokes and, you know, play it up.

02:08:59.000 Oh, he's just, you know, but I've, I've maintained this consistently that I, I don't deny that it happened.

02:09:05.000 Yeah.

02:09:05.000 Okay.

02:09:05.000 I know.

02:09:05.000 I wasn't trying to like,

02:09:07.000 Yeah, no, I appreciate it.

02:09:09.000 Alright, so let's go to Rylan.

02:09:12.000 He's had his hand up this whole time.

02:09:14.000 Rylan, you're unmuted.

02:09:15.000 My guy, you've gotta learn how to raise the hand on Zoom.

02:09:19.000 I don't know how.

02:09:20.000 Listen, Rylan's dedicated.

02:09:22.000 Dude fell asleep at 3.30 when I was debating commies.

02:09:24.000 Oh, yesterday, yeah.

02:09:25.000 Wait, did I fall asleep on the Zoom?

02:09:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:28.000 Oh, dang, I'm sorry.

02:09:29.000 If I was doing it, it's my bad.

02:09:30.000 You were like looking at the picture the whole time.

02:09:35.000 Question for Nick Videos and then Nicholas.

02:09:39.000 Okay.

02:09:40.000 Nick Videos, if you got the free time at all, it would be cool if you could teach me economics or at least the basics of economics because I'm really willing to learn more.

02:09:50.000 You said if you have the free time, he'd love to learn about economics.

02:09:57.000 Yeah, he'd love for you to teach him about economics.

02:09:59.000 I mean, I'll be honest with you, I'm not a master on economics.

02:10:02.000 I mean, I know a decent amount about it, but I mean... Yeah, if you can just teach me the basics, that'd be cool.

02:10:07.000 Isn't there a crash course economics?

02:10:09.000 Nick, you are a master of economics.

02:10:13.000 I mean, I know a decent amount, but I'm not like some economist.

02:10:16.000 Like, I'm studying economics in college, but... Yeah, but this is the basics that I want to learn, you know?

02:10:25.000 Just DM me on Instagram.

02:10:26.000 I got you.

02:10:28.000 Say you were from the Zoom and you want to learn about economics.

02:10:30.000 All right, I got you, bro.

02:10:31.000 Don't all 100 people in here start DMing me.

02:10:34.000 Yeah, you're about to get so many DMs.

02:10:37.000 He literally just shot his shot right now.

02:10:40.000 Hey, look, look, look, look.

02:10:42.000 I'll do that and Nick won't tell me who do that. 0.99

02:10:44.000 I'll kill you, all right? 0.99

02:10:48.000 And for Nicholas, 0.98

02:10:51.000 Back to sort of the beginning of this little debate, you were talking about how we should basically, correct me if I'm wrong, but you were saying we should shut off everyone from coming into the United States.

02:11:07.000 Yeah, yeah, immigration.

02:11:08.000 And that's to prevent a political advantage for people overwhelmingly voting for Democrat, right?

02:11:14.000 Oh, that's one reason, yeah.

02:11:16.000 Well, what about people that, like, people that survive socialism?

02:11:20.000 And more than likely, they're going to vote conservative moving into the United States.

02:11:26.000 Do you think it should be the same for that?

02:11:27.000 Or do you think they should come in as well?

02:11:30.000 He did address earlier the fact that, you know, there's going to be good people that are going to want to migrate in, you know?

02:11:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:37.000 It's not like he's for trying to, you know, keep good people from migrating in.

02:11:42.000 So, I mean, it's not, you know, that's not the...

02:11:45.000 I guess, yeah, that.

02:11:47.000 Yeah, I was only partially paying attention.

02:11:49.000 I'm dozing out right now.

02:11:51.000 There are.

02:11:52.000 I mean, the most obvious group is Cubans.

02:11:55.000 And this is what a lot of people bring up is we'll say, well, Hispanics are, you know, making the country more blue and people bring up Cubans, which Cubans in Florida, it's dwindling, but they do vote majority Republican and they are considered reliably Republican.

02:12:09.000 But of course, this is anomalous.

02:12:11.000 I mean, the reason they vote Republican is because of the particular situation with Cuba and that immigration policy where almost all refugees just get to stay. 0.60

02:12:20.000 Right.

02:12:20.000 And so it's kind of a very specific situation.

02:12:22.000 But, you know, again, it's we're talking about a confluence of different factors, economic, social, cultural, political.

02:12:29.000 But I mean, really, immigration is indefensible from all of that. 0.97

02:12:32.000 And you could have people that are more assimilated, people that are good for the economy.

02:12:37.000 People might vote Republican, but broadly, mass population replacement is just, for every reason, on the whole, on the aggregate, it's no good for us.

02:12:46.000 Would you know a Venezuelan that makes two now?

02:12:50.000 I actually don't know the statistics on Venezuelans if they vote more Republican.

02:12:54.000 I imagine they might, but I'm not 100%.

02:12:56.000 I'm from the Philippines, and my grandma was the first one in my family to come to America.

02:13:07.000 We're all mainly Republican.

02:13:09.000 I don't know about anyone else, but that's just my family.

02:13:12.000 Yeah.

02:13:13.000 You're going to have that, but just on average, when you're looking at the big immigrant groups, they're, they're not, you know, so, um, and I, I'm, I'm Mexican too.

02:13:21.000 You know, I'm a quarter Mexican.

02:13:23.000 My father's obviously half Mexican.

02:13:25.000 He's Republican.

02:13:26.000 So, and you do see that.

02:13:27.000 And that's what I, you know, people like to say, Oh, you're racist, whatever.

02:13:30.000 It's like, no, I love people, but it's just for everybody.

02:13:33.000 It's better if we, it's America first, not now whites first, not, you know, Christians first. 0.98

02:13:38.000 I mean, we love Christians and everybody.

02:13:40.000 Right.

02:13:40.000 But we want to put our country first.

02:13:43.000 Yeah.

02:13:43.000 I am white as rice.

02:13:46.000 Jordan, please have my kids.

02:13:48.000 Wow.

02:13:48.000 But there is such thing as brown rice.

02:13:50.000 What are you saying, man?

02:13:51.000 Well, no, I'm just saying, me personally, I'm as white as rice.

02:13:54.000 I mean, dude, I'm Norse.

02:13:55.000 All right, let's go to Oliver here.

02:13:57.000 He's got his hand up at the top of the list.

02:13:59.000 Oliver!

02:14:00.000 I love Oliver.

02:14:02.000 Okay, cool.

02:14:02.000 What's up?

02:14:03.000 Not so much.

02:14:04.000 I kind of just dozed off, but I'll just shine my light on my face so you kind of see me.

02:14:08.000 So, hey Nick, the question was kind of already asked about Israel, so I mean I'll kind of just branch off it a little bit.

02:14:15.000 So, when it comes to like Middle Eastern policy, do you feel like the U.S.

02:14:19.000 should really kind of like withdraw completely from the Middle East, or do you think we should have some sort of presence there?

02:14:27.000 That's a good question.

02:14:28.000 I probably differ from... Like, a lot of the people who watch my show, and I fight with them all the time on this, they want total isolation.

02:14:36.000 I'm a believer that America has interests all over the world, and we should take care of our interests.

02:14:42.000 And if that means having a base, or protecting a trade route, I mean, that's fine.

02:14:47.000 What we're looking at now is like an occupation of many countries, not just Afghanistan and Iraq, but you've got troops in Yemen, you've got troops in Somalia, you've got troops in Syria, still a residual force.

02:14:59.000 So they're all over.

02:15:01.000 And I just want the big engagements to end.

02:15:03.000 I want the big wars to end.

02:15:05.000 I don't think war is in our interest in the Middle East, but you know, I'm not one of these people that'll say,

02:15:10.000 I feel like the political spectrum is almost a circle where

02:15:38.000 I'm almost the opposite end as you, but I almost 100% agree with you on that.

02:15:42.000 So, you know, always able to find common ground.

02:15:45.000 Totally.

02:15:46.000 That's where you get the Republican and Dem establishments are, you know, they're the ones that are wrong.

02:15:50.000 Oh gosh.

02:15:50.000 Yeah.

02:15:51.000 I'd not, I don't identify with either.

02:15:53.000 I think both parties have their serious issues and corporatism and all that, but yeah.

02:15:57.000 So yeah, I appreciate it.

02:15:58.000 Awesome question, Oliver.

02:15:59.000 All right.

02:16:00.000 So there's someone that's had their hand up for a while too.

02:16:04.000 Sebastian Chips.

02:16:07.000 You're muted.

02:16:10.000 You're unmuted. 0.93

02:16:10.000 Next one's going to be David Asher, because he's had his hand up for a really long time. 0.93

02:16:14.000 Look at this dude that is... Never mind.

02:16:17.000 This dude's name.

02:16:19.000 Interesting.

02:16:20.000 Alright, Sebastian Chip's moving on, because he's obviously not there.

02:16:23.000 We're going to go to David.

02:16:25.000 Yeah, David.

02:16:28.000 Alright, David, what's up?

02:16:29.000 We can hear you.

02:16:30.000 Hey, I got a question for Nick Videos.

02:16:33.000 What's up?

02:16:34.000 Okay, so, it just...

02:16:37.000 Maybe like a sentence.

02:16:38.000 What's your position like on Israel?

02:16:40.000 Like one-state solution, two-state solution, what would it be?

02:16:43.000 See, I'm kind of conflicted on that because... Yeah, so a two-state issue, a two-state...

02:16:53.000 You know, it would probably solve a lot of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict there.

02:16:59.000 So like, it's good in that aspect.

02:17:00.000 But you got to keep in mind, Israel did win the war back in the 40s.

02:17:03.000 So I mean, that land is theirs.

02:17:05.000 But again, you have to think about it in the way that if... Here's my real question.

02:17:10.000 What's up?

02:17:10.000 Real question.

02:17:12.000 We live in America.

02:17:13.000 Why do you care?

02:17:15.000 Well, I care because Israel, I think that Israel is a good ally to have in the Middle East.

02:17:20.000 Okay, but like, they're

02:17:22.000 We have no other allies in the Middle East.

02:17:27.000 Honestly, if it was up to me, I wouldn't completely remove troops out there, but I'm not a neocon.

02:17:32.000 I agree with Nick Fuentes on this.

02:17:35.000 I don't think that fighting a war in the Middle East right now is in our interest.

02:17:38.000 There's no point.

02:17:40.000 I just think only America should be alright, because I don't know why we care so much about any other country, honestly.

02:17:45.000 Well yeah, and I'm not, see, the part that I don't agree with the Republican Party on is the Republican Party basically just shills to Israel by giving them hundreds of billions of dollars in aid, and I don't agree with that.

02:17:56.000 That's one thing where I fundamentally disagree with the GOP on.

02:17:58.000 So yeah.

02:17:59.000 But I definitely think that if we are fighting wars in the Middle East like we are now, I think that it is in our interest to keep Israel our ally.

02:18:06.000 But I don't think that giving them hundreds of billions of dollars is enough, sorry.

02:18:09.000 Well that's the thing I have with like, pretty much left or right, it's like,

02:18:13.000 I don't care what your solution is, really.

02:18:15.000 Like, why do we even...

02:18:17.000 Care.

02:18:18.000 Not a problem.

02:18:19.000 I see where you're coming from, but I mean, at this point, I think that it's in our interest right now, since we are fighting wars in the Middle East, that we need to have them as our ally.

02:18:30.000 But if we weren't fighting wars in the Middle East, which is what I see would be the best for America and the best for just the Middle East too, we're not helping them out by doing anything.

02:18:39.000 But yeah, if we weren't fighting wars in the Middle East, I mean, I wouldn't really care about Israel. 0.87

02:18:47.000 I was going to go to Cole.

02:18:52.000 I was going to go down the list of hands that we have up here.

02:18:55.000 I was watching.

02:18:58.000 You're fine.

02:18:58.000 Go ahead.

02:19:00.000 Cole, we can hear you.

02:19:01.000 What's up?

02:19:03.000 Thank you for unmuting me.

02:19:04.000 I just want to say, before I answer my question.

02:19:09.000 The America First Movement, which Nick Fuentes is a part of, is not racist in any way.

02:19:14.000 Because if it was racist, it would be the White First Movement, and nobody is calling for that.

02:19:19.000 As the left gets more and more radical, the right is getting much weaker and weaker, and compromising in all these positions like gay marriage, transgenders, people are saying, oh, they're not pushing for Drag Queen Sorry Hour.

02:19:29.000 But if you see Twitter, every single day, there's an LGBT hashtag trending.

02:19:34.000 Every single day.

02:19:36.000 Like the American first movement's like slanderous being like homophobic this and that, but like, what are you conserving?

02:19:42.000 If you're not like defending like the American ideals of like, you say America's not like a Christian nation, but like America was founded on natural law and like these, this stuff just goes against natural law.

02:19:53.000 But my, my main question is like, like how are you going to call yourself a conservative?

02:19:59.000 And support gay marriage.

02:20:00.000 Like, that's not a conservative idea whatsoever.

02:20:02.000 That's a neocon view.

02:20:04.000 If you look at the 2008 Republican presidential debate, John McCain, the Republican nominee, said, I do not support gay marriage.

02:20:12.000 Same with Joe Biden.

02:20:15.000 This isn't the first time I've heard this question, and in my opinion I think it's someone who's a little bit upset.

02:20:30.000 We're good to go.

02:21:00.000 Not me telling people, I think you should be doing this.

02:21:02.000 So therefore you have to do it.

02:21:03.000 Um, you know, and the conservative movement is in order to conserve the ideals that we see America should be not necessarily, you know, giving up because we see other nations doing this.

02:21:16.000 So let's do the same thing.

02:21:18.000 Um, you know, conservatives, your definition of conservative obviously might be different than my definition of conservative.

02:21:25.000 If your definition of conservative is conserving, you know, slavery, if your definition of conservative is conserving, you know, every person has to be straight, conserving that every person has to be Christian, you know, obviously our definitions of conservative are different.

02:21:40.000 And also, just because you don't believe in every single thing by the book that defines conservative values doesn't mean you're not a conservative.

02:21:49.000 Just because there are certain things that you deviate on doesn't make you not a conservative.

02:21:55.000 Hold on, he's muted.

02:22:14.000 You're trying to pin me on this like an American first movement or some like radical thing but like this is like what true conservatism like is like if you go back to the 1980s and you see like Pat Buchanan or Ronald Reagan like that's this what they like believed in like like regardless of like the gay marriage thing that that's been argued over so much it's it's law right now the only thing that'll change is if the court like

02:22:37.000 Pat Buchanan.

02:22:38.000 Pat Buchanan.

02:22:38.000 Oh.

02:22:38.000 Yeah.

02:23:06.000 So anyway, Charlie Kirk said that he wants to staple green cards to the back of like college diplomas or like that is not conservative at all.

02:23:14.000 Like there's people in America who are homeless, right?

02:23:16.000 Like why are we bringing it?

02:23:18.000 I never said, I never said I agree with Charlie Kirk.

02:23:21.000 I think, I personally think that Charlie Kirk is, uh, is not the figure you want to be, you know, looking up to.

02:23:29.000 But there's, there's like, uh, Nick videos.

02:23:31.000 I think that's his name.

02:23:33.000 He's like, it's like that we're, we're in favor of legal immigration.

02:23:36.000 Like we want to bring in more immigrants, but when there's people in America who can't even make it themselves, why are we bringing in more people? 1.00

02:23:43.000 I consider myself conservative, right?

02:23:44.000 I'm pretty by-the-book conservative as you can get.

02:24:04.000 When it comes to the immigration thing, do I agree? 0.97

02:24:08.000 I'm very much against legal immigration too. 0.98

02:24:10.000 I agree that we have a problem with immigration, but I have different ideas on how we should go about it.

02:24:16.000 It's the same thing as Christianity. 0.83

02:24:19.000 You can say you're Christian, but there's a bunch of different subdivisions, or obviously different versions of it, and they have different ideas on how someone should go about it.

02:24:27.000 Just because you are

02:24:29.000 Uh, conservative doesn't mean you have to go down the line of every single thing and saying someone's a bad conservative because they don't line up with every single thing is, is not, it just, that really doesn't make sense.

02:24:37.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:38.000 You can be conservative and deviate from some conservative ideas.

02:24:41.000 Doesn't make you not a conservative.

02:24:43.000 There's some, there's a bare minimum in order to be considered at least a Republican.

02:24:47.000 So what it, what it, what it sounds like to me is that he's just like, he's wanting, he's wanting to tell us you're not worthy to be a conservative.

02:24:53.000 You're not worthy to call yourself a conservative.

02:24:54.000 That's what you're saying though.

02:24:56.000 What would you say the bare minimum is then?

02:24:59.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.

02:24:59.000 Yeah.

02:25:21.000 We're not supporting mass immigration. 1.00

02:25:26.000 Your definition of mass immigration is open borders and no conservative in here is saying that we need to have open borders.

02:25:32.000 I think a lot of us agree with Nick as far as illegal immigration goes.

02:25:36.000 If you look at Nick videos like TikTok and he said like if anyone wants to bring it up and play it he says like we're like you can't support all the illegal immigrants right it'll cost so much money

02:25:45.000 Yeah, it's estimated to cost more money than the war in Iraq.

02:25:48.000 Are you talking about the same video that Nick Fuentes posted?

02:25:54.000 I'm just saying that I don't think that it would be a worthwhile investment.

02:25:56.000 Like that one video that you've watched of Nick's?

02:26:00.000 Trump ran on that.

02:26:01.000 Trump ran on the fact that he was going to deport the illegal immigrants.

02:26:04.000 You're wearing a Trump hat and you're saying we can't deport them all is a contradictory statement.

02:26:09.000 You do.

02:26:11.000 I'm not.

02:26:11.000 I don't know.

02:26:12.000 Wait, wait, wait.

02:26:13.000 Yeah, no one said we have to agree with Satan.

02:26:15.000 Do you agree?

02:26:16.000 Every time you vote, do you agree with every single thing that politics does?

02:26:20.000 Politics are a game of darts.

02:26:22.000 Every single Trump rally, build the wall with Satan.

02:26:24.000 I support the wall.

02:26:27.000 That's what, like the whole legal immigration thing, like deporting illegal immigrants, like making- You're missing, you're missing the point here. 0.62

02:26:33.000 We're not talking, I think that when Nick is talking, when Nick Videos is talking about disagreeing with Nick Fuentes on, um, on immigration, I don't think it's the illegal immigration policy.

02:26:42.000 I think it's the legal immigration policy.

02:26:44.000 Bring this man to the spotlight.

02:26:45.000 Jesus.

02:26:46.000 Stop putting spotlight on people.

02:26:48.000 I just want to let you know- People are talking.

02:26:49.000 It's not me.

02:26:51.000 It's, it's Matty.

02:26:53.000 No, but look, I think also you're missing the point of what Nick videos might've been saying.

02:26:57.000 I don't know.

02:26:58.000 I really ain't watch TikToks like that, like of his, but he was talking, were you talking more of a monetary standpoint, Nick?

02:27:04.000 I was just, I was saying that it's been estimated that deporting all illegals would cost more money in the war in Iraq.

02:27:13.000 And I don't think that would be a good investment for the American taxpayer.

02:27:16.000 Like the rest of the video, you were saying, like, you were talking about legal immigration.

02:27:19.000 It's like, what were you saying about that?

02:27:22.000 So I personally think that we accept too many people legally.

02:27:25.000 Okay.

02:27:26.000 We, America accepts far more immigrants than any other country, like 10 times as many.

02:27:31.000 Like, like that's, that's just insanity.

02:27:33.000 Okay.

02:27:35.000 Um, but yeah, I don't think that we should just not accept anybody, but, um, yeah, I mean, I don't think that we should be accepting millions of immigrants every year. 1.00

02:27:43.000 I mean, I don't know the, I don't know the exact number that we're accepting.

02:27:47.000 That's what's going on right now.

02:27:49.000 Yeah.

02:27:49.000 I understand that.

02:27:50.000 I disagree with that.

02:27:52.000 This is important.

02:27:53.000 But what I'm saying right now is that I don't think that it would be a worthwhile investment to spend 15 trillion dollars or more and deport all the ones that are already here. 0.96

02:28:04.000 It's I need to say something.

02:28:05.000 If there's like, if there's an estimate of like 20 million.

02:28:07.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

02:28:08.000 Devon said something.

02:28:10.000 Very important.

02:28:11.000 It just changed all of three for me.

02:28:13.000 So happy 420 everyone.

02:28:14.000 That's it.

02:28:15.000 Don't care, didn't ask.

02:28:16.000 Don't care.

02:28:20.000 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States, right?

02:28:22.000 And there's millions of Americans below the poverty line who can't get a job, right?

02:28:27.000 Why would I not want to invest in getting them out of the country so that we can open the economy to American citizens? 1.00

02:28:32.000 Dude, that's cool, but like, look, where are you going to get the money from?

02:28:36.000 Look, I'm not saying that we accept all of them.

02:28:38.000 I'm saying that we have a system where we look at what they did while they were here.

02:28:42.000 And if they have been beneficial to our economy, if they've helped us, then they can stay.

02:28:47.000 But on the other sense, if they've committed crime, if they've just fed off social programs, then get them out, okay?

02:28:52.000 I'm not saying that we just give them all citizenship, but I just, I don't think that it would be worth 1.00

02:28:57.000 I think it would also... I'm trying to express that they already broke the law.

02:29:03.000 No, I understand that.

02:29:04.000 I understand that. 0.95

02:29:05.000 They deserve to be kicked out.

02:29:06.000 I mean, you're saying it's going to cost expensive dollars?

02:29:09.000 The amount of money saved with them out of the country is going to be crazy.

02:29:13.000 Okay.

02:29:14.000 It wouldn't even compare.

02:29:15.000 On the high end, it's estimated that illegal immigrants cost the American taxpayer a hundred, I believe a hundred- Sixteen.

02:29:21.000 A hundred and sixteen billion dollars.

02:29:22.000 So you realize how many years that that would take for that fourteen trillion, that fourteen trillion dollars to add up?

02:29:28.000 That would take, like, literally, like, over a hundred years.

02:29:31.000 It's like $5,000.

02:29:31.000 It's like $1,000 that it costs to import illegally, right?

02:29:35.000 Because you have to pay for the rage, you have to pay for the intel, right?

02:29:38.000 Nick went to set all this on this live stream.

02:29:39.000 I don't know if any of you watched it, but he caused 60,000 per illegal alien in the United States. 0.77

02:29:46.000 Not true.

02:29:47.000 Programs, schooling, hospitals.

02:29:50.000 It's not true.

02:29:52.000 It does.

02:29:52.000 Let me go back.

02:29:54.000 I was actually talking with Nicholas about this earlier on Snapchat, and then he called the Washington Examiner liberal.

02:29:59.000 And I don't know, I kind of laughed at that.

02:30:01.000 When somebody doesn't pay taxes and they get free things for it?

02:30:04.000 Okay.

02:30:04.000 Illegal immigrants do pay taxes, actually.

02:30:06.000 If you don't believe that, then you just, you deny facts.

02:30:09.000 But, um, so illegal immigrants actually pay about $18 billion in the social security every year.

02:30:13.000 And then above 10 million, 10 billion in the Medicare, as well as sales taxes and everything else.

02:30:18.000 So if you look at it from like a monetary standpoint, this $14 trillion plus, it's not, you would literally take like, like almost a hundred years for that to even replenish.

02:30:28.000 I mean,

02:30:30.000 This man is straight chillin' with his water right now.

02:30:32.000 Let me say this one thing.

02:30:33.000 We'll go back a little bit to what you said.

02:30:34.000 You said that the fundamentals of being a conservative, or a Republican for that point, and one of them you brought up was low taxes, right?

02:30:52.000 You can't get $15 trillion by taxing Wall Street or just the rich.

02:31:12.000 So wait, so is your solution to just stop deporting people?

02:31:17.000 No, I literally gave you my solution.

02:31:18.000 You said put a filter on who you're deporting.

02:31:20.000 I said that we need to have a system to where we look at what they've done while they've been in our country.

02:31:24.000 If they've been benefiting our economy and not committing any crimes, then they can stay.

02:31:28.000 But if they've also been committing crimes and feeding off social programs, I think we should get rid of them.

02:31:32.000 Crossing border illegally is a crime, right?

02:31:34.000 I understand that.

02:31:35.000 I understand that.

02:31:36.000 But again, I'm saying from a monetary standpoint, the investment of spending $15 trillion or more, it's just not worth it.

02:32:04.000 Personally speaking, I don't agree with Nick Video's and his factor.

02:32:07.000 I think that deporting illegal immigrants is an important cause. 1.00

02:32:34.000 Um, if we're going to spend as much money as we're spending in other departments, I think that we don't need to stay lacking in a department of, uh, enforcing criminal justice, you know?

02:32:43.000 So I, I think that, I think that it is an important factor to take into account that, you know, they have crossed the border illegally.

02:32:50.000 They didn't choose to do it legally.

02:32:52.000 You also have to look at the fact that if they know they're not going to be deported, why would they not come?

02:33:15.000 No, no, no.

02:33:18.000 See, I haven't given my full plan, okay?

02:33:19.000 Before we do anything with that, you have to build the wall.

02:33:22.000 Like, you have to. 0.99

02:33:23.000 Because whenever you start this system, then you're gonna have a bunch of fucking people coming in just trying to get a citizenship. 1.00

02:33:28.000 So you have to build the wall first, and then you have to crack down on it even more, like border crossings and stuff like that, through ports of entry, like ocean, stuff like that. 0.96

02:33:38.000 Like you can't, you can't just start a pathway to citizenship without doing anything else.

02:33:41.000 Right.

02:33:41.000 Yeah.

02:33:41.000 And I agree that we need more border security.

02:33:43.000 I'm not sure the wall is the number, is the, you know, the thing that we need to do for sure.

02:33:47.000 A hundred percent.

02:33:48.000 I feel like, I feel like Trump's whole, uh, wall aspect was more so, you know, voters can actually envision something happening on the border.

02:33:55.000 You know, I think that's, you know, I think it's a little bit drastic, but, uh, you know, border security in general, I think is a great, you know, thing that we need to invest in right now specifically.

02:34:07.000 We do have an immigration problem in America now. 0.91

02:34:09.000 Obviously, how do we fix this problem?

02:34:29.000 But yeah that's I brought that up last night but the thing is like I think everyone agrees that yeah we have an immigration or at least I can't I can speak for maybe the Republican side of things but we we agree yeah there is a problem with immigration now how we solve it obviously differs I mean obviously how we solve it differs like I think me and Reese are on the on the side of

02:34:50.000 We need to probably fund border patrol and strengthen our border protection, you know, whether that's a wall, more people on the border, and then I think obviously need to fix the way immigrants come in legally, because people obviously see the fact that, well, it's easier to come in illegally, so I might as well just go in illegally. 0.91

02:35:07.000 Yeah, I just want to ask this, like, really quick thing.

02:35:12.000 If you're gonna try to, like, discriminate, like, distinguish between good illegal immigrants, right, and bad illegal immigrants, like, if you decide to keep 1.00

02:35:19.000 Some of the illegal immigrants in America?

02:35:22.000 What does that say to people who are working hard, that are legal citizens, that can't, like, make it successful?

02:35:28.000 Like, what does it say to people who are poor American citizens, that you're keeping people who you view as good workers, but they cross-border illegally, broke the law, they tried to undermine the system? 0.73

02:35:38.000 Like, what does that say to them?

02:35:39.000 I would say it also says something to the people who are actually actively trying to get legal citizenship as well.

02:35:47.000 You're right.

02:35:49.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:35:49.000 I've, my views have changed on this throughout my journey in politics.

02:35:53.000 I've just became more libertarian as I've gotten to know more.

02:35:58.000 Except when it comes to women. 0.73

02:36:02.000 It has nothing to do with women. 1.00

02:36:03.000 It has everything to do with preserving human life.

02:36:06.000 Yeah.

02:36:07.000 But no, so, yeah, I mean, just, I think your question on immigration is, it is- And also, I think- I think, no, I think-

02:36:20.000 Are illegal immigrants bad? 1.00

02:36:22.000 No.

02:36:23.000 But have they all broken the law?

02:36:24.000 Yes.

02:36:25.000 So therefore, does that make them a law-abiding citizen?

02:36:29.000 No.

02:36:29.000 So yeah, do I think all illegal immigrants should be deported?

02:36:32.000 Yes.

02:36:33.000 Even if they're good people.

02:36:34.000 I mean, that's just unfortunate.

02:36:35.000 You did.

02:36:35.000 Like we said, the rules are the rules.

02:36:37.000 You broke the law.

02:36:37.000 Yeah.

02:36:38.000 Whether you like them or not, the rules are the rules.

02:36:41.000 I'm gonna hop out, guys.

02:36:44.000 You know, Nick Flynn says, we can't agree on that.

02:36:46.000 That rules are rules and you have to follow.

02:36:48.000 Why do you hate agreeing with this man?

02:36:50.000 Hell yeah.

02:36:51.000 I agree.

02:36:52.000 I agree.

02:36:52.000 I'm with you.

02:36:53.000 I agree.

02:36:54.000 I've been cultured to disagree with, you know, everybody that disagrees with me.

02:36:58.000 So I guess I just, it's harder for, it's harder for me to agree with you.

02:37:02.000 That's that culture of white culture. 0.73

02:37:06.000 All right, Violet, calm down, you're halfway there.

02:37:09.000 Also, I just want everyone to remember that America is not just an economic superpower, right?

02:37:16.000 America also has, like, we need to keep America moral.

02:37:18.000 In just a general sense, the word moral is very important.

02:37:21.000 Like, regardless of you saying, all right, like, some people say, I'm not saying anyone here does, but I'm saying, like, some people say bringing in a ton of immigrants will, like, help America's economy, right?

02:37:29.000 Usually the libertarians say that.

02:37:31.000 But at what cost does it come?

02:37:34.000 It comes sometimes at sacrificing

02:37:36.000 Like the blanket culture of America, right? 0.73

02:37:39.000 The American way of life comes in sacrificing, like if there's no economics, like restrictions, right?

02:37:45.000 And the morality in America is just gonna crumble and America has become a weak nation.

02:37:49.000 And like, whenever you look at politics, you have to always think about A, the economic effect and B, like the cultural and moral impact.

02:37:56.000 Like a lot of people are like for gay marriage because they say it's like equality, but like, you can't just redefine a word.

02:38:05.000 marriage to try to get some equality that doesn't exist.

02:38:09.000 That's not true equality.

02:38:11.000 If you're a Christian here and you support gay marriage, you've got to really think about that again, because the Bible says that the greatest commandment is to love one another, and loving one another is leading them on a path which is correct. 0.99

02:38:23.000 I'm not saying a theocrat for Christianity,

02:38:26.000 But I'm saying you always have to keep that in mind when you think about politics in general.

02:38:30.000 You have to keep the religion in mind or else your religion... I don't want to overstep my bounds.

02:38:35.000 That's my thing.

02:38:36.000 That's overstepping our bounds by us trying to...

02:38:48.000 I have a little bit different view than most conservatives on this because if you look at gay marriage I don't believe that they should be forced to be married by like priests you know any church but by the state yes and the reason for that is because if your loved ones in a hospital I don't really care if you're gay you can't go visit them if they're 0.86

02:39:14.000 But you don't need marriage to- You do need to be married, or be family.

02:39:19.000 Marriage is the way to enter into the family, and that's the only reason I'm okay with it. 0.97

02:39:22.000 On paper, I don't agree with it.

02:39:24.000 You know, in a church?

02:39:26.000 On paper, for the government?

02:39:29.000 You don't need a real contract for marriage to give those privileges? 0.68

02:39:31.000 The way that I see it is that it doesn't affect me.

02:39:34.000 I don't really care.

02:39:35.000 Like, I can- It affects our culture of America, so it doesn't affect me.

02:39:40.000 That doesn't mean that I could, like, support sodomy.

02:39:42.000 I mean- Sodomy.

02:39:46.000 The Christian side of me, like in a perfect world, would I wish that the United States would take up as a Christian state, right? 1.00

02:39:59.000 That is our, that is how we are.

02:40:01.000 Who wouldn't want to think, who wouldn't want that as a Christian?

02:40:03.000 Okay, but yes, but also you brought up the Bible says to, you know, love one another or love thy neighbor as thyself.

02:40:09.000 I'm not saying to do it, I'm just saying who wouldn't want that.

02:40:11.000 No, I get that, but what I'm gonna say is this on top of the gay marriage thing. 0.79

02:40:15.000 Do I, morally, every fiber of me, disagree with it?

02:40:18.000 Yes.

02:40:19.000 But you also gotta think, if you're taking this from a moral standpoint, and your morals obviously come from Christianity, Jesus also sat down with prostitutes, rabbis, and all these other people that society spat on, right?

02:40:34.000 Yeah.

02:40:35.000 You still have to have respect for them.

02:40:37.000 You still gotta be nice.

02:40:37.000 Yeah, you have to prepare for the marginalized, but you don't tell the sinner that it's okay to keep sinning.

02:40:43.000 I'm not telling a sinner it's okay to keep sinning, but I'm letting them do what they choose to do.

02:40:49.000 I'm giving them the free will.

02:40:51.000 I'm giving them the free will.

02:40:53.000 Allowing free will to take reign.

02:40:56.000 Not everybody in America is Christian.

02:40:58.000 I just want to clarify one thing real quick.

02:41:00.000 What I said with like, you don't tell the sinner it's okay to keep sinning, that was to what, I don't want to say this like offensively, but Fatty Actual, that's what 1.00

02:41:06.000 That's my name.

02:41:07.000 I wouldn't have made that.

02:41:08.000 I wouldn't have made that.

02:41:10.000 No, yeah, you don't tell the sinner to sin.

02:41:12.000 I'm not saying that, like, you're telling the sinner it's okay to sin by legalizing gay marriage.

02:41:15.000 I'm just saying you're redefining a word, marriage, which is between a man and a woman.

02:41:18.000 Natural law is obviously, like, homosexuality is not part of natural law.

02:41:24.000 I believe it's morally incorrect.

02:41:26.000 I am anti-gay marriage. 1.00

02:41:27.000 That's what I'm trying to tell you.

02:41:27.000 Look, I am.

02:41:28.000 And you can call me homophobic, whatever you want.

02:41:30.000 Now, am I still going to have to have love and respect for them?

02:41:32.000 Yes.

02:41:33.000 But at the end of the day, if they don't want to listen to me, they're going to have to answer before God.

02:41:37.000 So that's my viewpoint on it, dude. 0.65

02:41:40.000 Like, I have friends that are gay.

02:41:41.000 I've told them I'm Christian, and I've told them my beliefs.

02:41:43.000 And I'm like, look, if you're not going to listen to me, I believe at the end of the day, you're going to have to answer to God.

02:41:48.000 So I'm not going to force something down somebody's throat, like my beliefs and stuff, and try and hammer it down on top of them when it's going to do them no good.

02:41:54.000 But I just want to, like, I agree 100%.

02:41:57.000 Like, you can't legislate morality.

02:41:59.000 If you try to legislate morality, then it's going to be a total mess.

02:42:01.000 People are going to obviously revolt against it.

02:42:03.000 There's a world

02:42:04.000 In retrospect, the world hates God.

02:42:06.000 That's a general statement that I think anyone can agree with.

02:42:08.000 Oh, we're a secular society for sure.

02:42:10.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:42:11.000 What I am saying is this.

02:42:13.000 If you look at the 1950s, forget the racism and I disagree with that 100%, but I'm saying if you look at the 50s, government was much more prone to keeping a society which was pure and clean, right?

02:42:28.000 And then in the 60s, people were like, well, no, no, keep your religion out of politics.

02:42:32.000 And then in the 80s, it was kind of like,

02:42:33.000 We're good.

02:42:53.000 No, dude, I agree.

02:43:00.000 I don't lie down, dude.

02:43:01.000 Like, I mean, I think we have the same basis.

02:43:03.000 Like, I'm definitely for, like, I feel like we should pray in school still.

02:43:05.000 You know what I mean?

02:43:08.000 Like, I think we're on the same page here.

02:43:10.000 I'm just saying, like, you got to realize that you're not going to win all the time and you can't keep

02:43:16.000 We as Christians, you're just going to chase people away, right?

02:43:19.000 From your morals, the more you keep hammering down, because people will be like, dude, this guy is so annoying, or, you know, yada yada, I'm not going to do this.

02:43:25.000 All he wants to do is press his beliefs on me.

02:43:27.000 I am for spreading Christianity.

02:43:29.000 I am 100% for it.

02:43:30.000 I try to share the gospel with everybody I meet.

02:43:32.000 But at the same time, I still have to respect their free will.

02:43:36.000 You know what I mean?

02:43:37.000 Because God left us our choice of free will.

02:43:39.000 That's why we're allowed to sin still.

02:43:41.000 But a legal distinction, a legal recognition of a

02:43:47.000 Marriage is like you rejecting them.

02:43:49.000 It's not like...

02:43:50.000 Not, like, enforcing your beliefs.

02:43:52.000 Enforcing your beliefs would be saying, like, two guys in one room together, and the door's closed, nope, you're going to jail.

02:43:58.000 That would be enforcing your beliefs, right?

02:44:00.000 That's obviously a weird example, but that would be enforcing your beliefs.

02:44:02.000 No, yeah, that's enforcing your beliefs.

02:44:05.000 I can't argue with the law.

02:44:06.000 I can always write up and call my local representative, or I can start a petition to sign it, but until that gets changed, I still have to support the law, because that is the law, whether I agree with it or not.

02:44:17.000 Because like I said, wholeheartedly, I don't agree with it.

02:44:20.000 But at the end of the day, that's the law.

02:44:22.000 God said, and not God, Jesus said, you know, you got to give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and give unto God what is God's.

02:44:28.000 Now that talks about money, but at the same time, he's also talking about you have to still respect the authority that's above you.

02:44:32.000 Yeah, it's true.

02:44:32.000 You have to respect the authority, but when the authority passes a law that you 100% can't go with, you have no moral obligation to defend the law, right?

02:44:40.000 In my state, New York, most crazy and disgusting abortion law was passed in August. 0.95

02:44:47.000 I'm never going to respect that law.

02:44:49.000 I'm never going to say I uphold that law.

02:44:50.000 Why?

02:44:51.000 Because it's abhorrent.

02:44:52.000 It's murder.

02:44:53.000 It is totally against what I believe.

02:44:54.000 So you disagreeing with the gay marriage law is not you forcing your beliefs at all.

02:45:00.000 I just want the government out of me.

02:45:02.000 Like I said, I still disagree, but that's why we also have the opportunity, like I said, for the Baker Free example, I can deny my business or services because I don't agree with it.

02:45:11.000 We have the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion.

02:45:15.000 I'm all for it.

02:45:16.000 No, like, I think we're on the same page.

02:45:17.000 I just think we're chasing each other in circles.

02:45:19.000 Trying to run some Fortnite?

02:45:24.000 Let's go to Bopti.

02:45:25.000 Bopti, what's up?

02:45:26.000 What's up, boys?

02:45:26.000 Nice mic there, bud.

02:45:29.000 Is it, like, fucked up? 0.99

02:45:30.000 I can't really tell. 0.99

02:45:45.000 No, no, no.

02:45:45.000 He's saying you both have the same mic.

02:45:47.000 Yeah.

02:45:48.000 Wait, it's not even plugged in.

02:45:50.000 I'm actually recording.

02:45:51.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:45:54.000 Okay, so I want to comment on two things.

02:45:58.000 One, actually I want to ask Nick.

02:46:00.000 Nick, how did you get in here?

02:46:02.000 Which Nick?

02:46:03.000 Nick Fuentes.

02:46:05.000 I got invited.

02:46:05.000 I think you typed a code in.

02:46:07.000 Yeah.

02:46:09.000 I think that's how that works.

02:46:12.000 What do you mean how?

02:46:13.000 I came into the back door and no one was looking.

02:46:16.000 I still don't know who the heck texted me.

02:46:18.000 Because whenever we were in Nick's live chat, told him to come to the thing, someone texted me a random Zoom link.

02:46:24.000 Don't know who did it.

02:46:25.000 I don't know.

02:46:27.000 Okay, um, I guess like what I would recommend you is to you guys is before you like let on a dog whistling fascist You guys should like at least understand hold on cuz this is when you let let me say something here We're being very dog.

02:46:41.000 You need to show respect you show respect.

02:46:43.000 I'm gonna respect you back dog Look ain't nobody gonna listen to your point if you beat him over the head like they're in Neanderthal even say like 0.97

02:46:50.000 We let everybody have a spot to talk.

02:46:54.000 Okay, okay.

02:46:55.000 You know what?

02:46:55.000 I'll be respectful.

02:46:56.000 What did you say, dawg?

02:46:58.000 Good grief!

02:47:00.000 What?

02:47:00.000 You got a lot of people hating you.

02:47:01.000 I don't know what you said.

02:47:02.000 I'm kind of concerned here.

02:47:06.000 I guess I was being a bit of a bully, but that's my bad. 0.70

02:47:09.000 I'm the biggest bully.

02:47:10.000 You can't bully me. 1.00

02:47:12.000 I'll kill you! 1.00

02:47:12.000 Okay, let's move past this. 1.00

02:47:14.000 This is such a fruitless conversation.

02:47:15.000 What are we talking about?

02:47:16.000 Can I ask a question?

02:47:18.000 Let me hammer this home real quick.

02:47:22.000 You gotta show respect to people for them to give you respect back.

02:47:26.000 Saying something's fruitless and acting like you know better than everybody else is not a good way to go down this road.

02:47:30.000 Nick's just gonna turn around and roast you because you're not gonna show him the respect.

02:47:35.000 If you want to have a good conversation, that's great.

02:47:37.000 But obviously you need to respect the man in order for him to have enough respect to even look your way and give you the same conversation back.

02:47:44.000 There.

02:47:44.000 Alright?

02:47:44.000 Does that make sense?

02:47:46.000 Yeah, you know what?

02:47:46.000 That's my bad.

02:47:47.000 Yesterday when I hopped in, I was being a little rude.

02:47:49.000 I was getting a bit with the hype.

02:47:51.000 And, uh, you know, I recognize that.

02:47:53.000 That's my bad.

02:47:54.000 But, um... Alright.

02:47:55.000 Great man.

02:47:56.000 Go ahead.

02:47:57.000 So, I guess the reason I was asking why you guys, or how Nick Fuentes got in here is because, like, you guys seem to, like, not have that many rebuttals to a lot of, like, the blatantly false stuff he said.

02:48:08.000 Like, a lot of the historical revisionism he engaged in.

02:48:11.000 I just found that, like, I was wondering, like, are you guys gonna, you know, do this one more time except when, like, people have done a bit more research or, like, what's the plans for the future?

02:48:20.000 Absolutely.

02:48:22.000 Good.

02:48:22.000 I think the point was to kind of get him in here and, you know, ask him questions and allow him.

02:48:26.000 Yeah, the point wasn't just, you know, we didn't set up and plan this to be like some kind of debate stage or something like that.

02:48:32.000 You know, this was literally like a last minute, you know, hey, would Nick Fuentes actually join the Zoom, you know, so we can ask questions.

02:48:39.000 And that was, you know, that was kind of the point of it here.

02:48:42.000 It's, you know, like Nick said multiple times, nobody came here prepared with like papers and pages and stuff like that, you know, so I mean,

02:48:49.000 I'm not prepared to do any kind of debate on any kind of topic.

02:48:52.000 I'm going just what I know off the top of my head.

02:48:55.000 I actually agree with that.

02:48:55.000 I can understand that you guys might not have been prepared, but I think where I would see a difference is that if you guys were talking to somebody that didn't really advocate for race realism,

02:49:20.000 Are you paying attention at all when we were talking to this man?

02:49:27.000 We don't agree with a lot of the stuff he says, dawg.

02:49:30.000 We literally had a conversation.

02:49:42.000 You can properly refute arguments- I'm not gonna censor him because we can't refute his arguments. 0.94

02:49:46.000 That's just like gay concern trolling. 0.78

02:49:47.000 That's not- I'm not talking about censorship. 0.90

02:49:49.000 I'm not for censorship.

02:49:50.000 That's the evil can discern information- That's exactly what we just brought up, chief.

02:49:53.000 That they hear.

02:49:54.000 Well, no, that's not what I'm- That's not the point.

02:49:55.000 I'm just saying, don't you think it's irresponsible on your side to- No!

02:49:58.000 It's letting him talk and letting us listen.

02:50:00.000 Okay.

02:50:01.000 Yeah, okay.

02:50:03.000 I was just wondering about that.

02:50:09.000 To be clear, this wasn't a debate at all.

02:50:12.000 We weren't prepared at all.

02:50:13.000 We just came in here to talk.

02:50:15.000 Okay.

02:50:15.000 I just want to say real quick, I don't know what you've been watching, but I feel like everyone's been

02:50:23.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

02:50:27.000 I mean, Topher, he literally told you that you're, like, dumber because you're black. 1.00

02:50:32.000 Did I say something to that? 1.00

02:50:33.000 That's the opposite of what I said.

02:50:34.000 That's not the opposite.

02:50:36.000 Okay, Nick.

02:50:36.000 I mean, Nick, you literally said that, like, you're engaging in, like, skill signs.

02:50:42.000 I literally said explicitly the opposite.

02:50:46.000 I said that.

02:50:46.000 Wow, what did you say then?

02:50:47.000 You can do that.

02:50:48.000 Here's what I said.

02:50:49.000 Hold on, before this man starts talking something to you, let him talk.

02:50:52.000 First of all, I want to point out that this is something that liberals engage in.

02:50:58.000 This is what social media censorship is.

02:51:00.000 It is, because this is what they do.

02:51:01.000 They say that, well, normal people cannot discern.

02:51:06.000 Normal people cannot discern what is true from what is fiction.

02:51:09.000 So we need responsible fact checking.

02:51:11.000 And anytime there's something heterodox, we need NPR to mediate.

02:51:15.000 So you hear this a lot when you hear for calls for censorship that, well, fake news, fake news originally came from Facebook.

02:51:22.000 Mark Zuckerberg said we need to create policies that will stop fake news being spread on our platform.

02:51:27.000 In other words, like InfoWars.

02:51:28.000 Anyway, so I just want to point out what's being done here.

02:51:31.000 This is a very shady thing.

02:51:32.000 So what's being done here?

02:51:33.000 Hold on, what's being done here?

02:51:37.000 Well, I mean, no, I don't agree with- What's being done?

02:51:40.000 I just explained, I just explained. 0.81

02:51:42.000 This guy comes in here and says, Oh, um, you know, you're not responsible because you're not fact-checking this fascist dog whistler.

02:51:49.000 And this is what I hear from Jared Holt. 1.00

02:51:51.000 This is what I hear from- I mean, you're the one who does the Holocaust denialist shit. 1.00

02:51:54.000 All the usual suspects. 0.99

02:51:55.000 I've never denied the Holocaust. 1.00

02:51:56.000 And I address that.

02:51:59.000 You can read the Washington Post.

02:52:00.000 I addressed it in the Washington Post for you.

02:52:02.000 Thanks.

02:52:03.000 But, um, the point that,

02:52:05.000 I made earlier, I said explicitly that that was not the case.

02:52:08.000 I said, we're talking about averages.

02:52:10.000 We're talking about groups of people. 1.00

02:52:12.000 I said explicitly, I'm not saying because you're black, you're dumb. 1.00

02:52:15.000 I actually said there are, I said, it would be ridiculous to suggest that there are no intelligent non-white people. 0.99

02:52:23.000 I said that actually, if you look at how big the population in Africa is, there are tons of smart people everywhere because of how numbers work, how scale works.

02:52:32.000 We're talking about averages.

02:52:33.000 So I said,

02:52:34.000 Even from the guy that's like doing the race realism stuff, I don't know if you can really get on me about...

02:53:04.000 You didn't provide a source, and he didn't come in here claiming to be a lord fact-checker like you're saying he did.

02:53:11.000 He came in here to concern Troll and say that everybody else should have the fact-checking.

02:53:15.000 No, he asked why we do it.

02:53:17.000 I'm just wondering why they're debating without me.

02:53:20.000 Everybody knows what he's doing.

02:53:23.000 You know, Nick, I'm actually Jewish.

02:53:25.000 You know, I got the whole thing going on.

02:53:26.000 I don't know if you're gonna answer me for that.

02:53:28.000 Yeah, I actually am.

02:53:29.000 So am I, dawg.

02:53:30.000 What do you want, a cookie?

02:53:32.000 If you actually check out the, uh, Hillary Clinton's- Speaking of cookies!

02:53:35.000 Hey, Nick, you made a pretty weird joke concerning cookies in the Holocaust, didn't you, bud? 0.99

02:53:39.000 You know, that whole passive-aggressive thing you do is really pathetic. 0.99

02:53:42.000 Chill, chill, chill, chill. 0.99

02:53:43.000 It's just a meme, bro.

02:53:44.000 It's just a meme.

02:53:44.000 What are you gonna do?

02:53:45.000 Deep- Alright, look.

02:53:46.000 Everybody, look.

02:53:46.000 Hold on.

02:53:47.000 Here's what I'm gonna say.

02:53:48.000 One last time, bro.

02:53:48.000 I'm literally gonna just keep you muted.

02:53:52.000 Breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth.

02:53:54.000 Bobby, this is what you did last time that I'm gonna talk about.

02:53:57.000 Look, we ain't gotta bring up no hostility, bro.

02:53:59.000 Everybody has different opinions.

02:54:01.000 Now, whether or not you get a little hot under the collar because you don't agree with somebody's opinions, bro, that's just how it works.

02:54:06.000 Now, look- Dude, we need to get our inner Frederick out here, okay?

02:54:10.000 Look, and whether or not you don't like what the man has to say is the right to say it.

02:54:15.000 And pretty sure when he brought up the race thing that people didn't agree with, not saying it was even about race, let's not even start that thing, right?

02:54:21.000 When people thought, when they were covering it about race, pretty sure Topher still upset something.

02:54:26.000 A lot of us were like, wait, we don't agree with that.

02:54:27.000 Now, whether or not we had the facts, like he said, he didn't have the facts, whether or not we had the facts to hit him back with, no.

02:54:34.000 I mean, like, if you've been in here for the entire time, you would've noticed that.

02:54:36.000 It's like you literally fell asleep and then just woke up when you were gonna come in here and try to reignite something.

02:54:42.000 Yo, I've been- I don't know what you are.

02:54:43.000 You're that one dude that stands there with the ant hills and, like, tries to get- poking it with the stick to get him to fight.

02:54:49.000 Why are they flexing?

02:54:50.000 Why'd you use ants?

02:54:52.000 I don't know.

02:54:53.000 Because the ants fight to the death!

02:54:54.000 I thought about ant bully.

02:54:55.000 Everyone's flexing right now.

02:55:01.000 I'm just naturally pumped.

02:55:03.000 Okay.

02:55:05.000 Wait, can y'all hear me?

02:55:10.000 Can y'all hear me?

02:55:11.000 Yeah.

02:55:15.000 Okay.

02:55:15.000 Just making sure.

02:55:18.000 He's like, I gotta, I gotta be heard.

02:55:22.000 Nicholas is not racist.

02:55:24.000 He's going to follow me on Instagram and Twitter.

02:55:28.000 You got me, you got me!

02:55:32.000 Wait, Nicholas, how did you know about me before everything?

02:55:37.000 Because you followed me on TikTok and the only reason I knew you followed me was because Lance told me.

02:55:43.000 I was watching Lance's content and you guys were in the boys or whatever.

02:55:49.000 The boys? 1.00

02:55:52.000 That was the dumbest thing ever. 0.98

02:55:53.000 I don't even post a lot anymore. 0.96

02:55:56.000 Yeah, it was a little cringe, but do you know Jaden at all?

02:56:00.000 Jaden... Jaden who?

02:56:03.000 Jaden McNeil.

02:56:04.000 I've heard that name.

02:56:05.000 I don't like know... Yeah, he's, uh, because he's very in tune to the TikTok stuff and he was like, yo, check out this.

02:56:11.000 This is the boys.

02:56:13.000 There's Lance and Nick.

02:56:14.000 And, uh, so he's the one that got me into TikTok.

02:56:17.000 Is he like one of your Groypers? 0.94

02:56:19.000 He's a Groyper. 1.00

02:56:20.000 He was a former Turning Point guy, but he dissolved his chapter and became a Groyper. 0.90

02:56:24.000 Oh, uh, what were you gonna say, uh, Topher?

02:56:29.000 Wait, about Nicholas following you.

02:56:32.000 He had a plug!

02:56:33.000 He had a plug!

02:56:35.000 Come on, now let him talk!

02:56:37.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:56:38.000 If people are following Nicholas, it probably should be me, guys.

02:56:41.000 I got him in here in the first place.

02:56:43.000 I'll follow you.

02:56:44.000 Give me your app.

02:56:45.000 Oh, there we go.

02:56:46.000 Guys, guys, guys, I would like to point out that he already follows me on Instagram and TikTok.

02:56:52.000 Okay, Nicholas, keep on flexing, okay?

02:56:55.000 Keep on flexing.

02:56:56.000 Wait, can I get the Instagram?

02:56:59.000 Hello.

02:56:59.000 So there's a kid, Lucas, I think he's on the second page.

02:57:02.000 He's been trying to talk for a while.

02:57:03.000 He was the one who brought up one of the questions I was asked in the chat.

02:57:07.000 Wait, Nicholas, do you follow me on Twitter?

02:57:09.000 I'll follow you on Twitter.

02:57:09.000 Yeah, you tweeted about me like four times today.

02:57:11.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:12.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:13.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:14.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:15.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:16.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:17.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:18.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:19.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:20.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:21.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:22.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:23.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:24.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:25.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:26.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:28.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:29.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:30.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:31.000 My IG is my name.

02:57:32.000 My IG is

02:57:33.000 I got you.

02:57:34.000 So I just have like a few things.

02:57:36.000 So I'm the one that brought up the LGBT stuff at like the near beginning, I guess.

02:57:43.000 So I wanted to talk more about transgender type stuff because I feel like my question got kind of taken out of context and then I never really gotten a clear answer because it just kind of turned into like Christianity and how

02:58:02.000 If you consider gay marriage morally right, which wasn't really what I was asking.

02:58:06.000 I was trying to like ask, um, just in general, do you think it's a choice?

02:58:11.000 Do you think there's a science behind, um, gender identity, um, that kind of stuff?

02:58:18.000 I wanted to have a conversation more about that rather than the legality of gay marriage, because I don't really think that's going to be a topic really debated on.

02:58:29.000 Like with all of us or with just... Just, yeah, I want to kind of...

02:58:34.000 Get another perspective.

02:58:36.000 Well, for me personally, I mean, I look at facts and I've read multiple scientific peer-reviewed studies that have showed that people that are gay or trans, their brains are actually similar in brain structure to the opposite gender that they are, like looking at their genitalia. 0.64

02:58:54.000 So I don't think that being gay is a choice.

02:58:57.000 I think that that's definitely like hardwired into your brain and how, you know, like that type of stuff. 0.50

02:59:02.000 Wait, wait, wait... You, you, you... 0.71

02:59:20.000 You think that, and I think we disagree on this, because you think that people are born gay, but gay is still wrong?

02:59:29.000 So people can be born wrong?

02:59:30.000 Yeah, that's kind of my... No, no, no, no, no.

02:59:33.000 Having homosexual desires isn't necessarily wrong, but what's wrong is acting on them. 1.00

02:59:38.000 That's my problem with that argument.

02:59:40.000 That's, it just doesn't make any, so you're telling me that

02:59:44.000 Like personally, I'm gay and I'm just going to make it clear.

02:59:46.000 It's not a choice because if I could have avoided all the emotional trauma I and so many others went through, I would be straight in a heartbeat.

02:59:56.000 It's not something I would decide on.

02:59:58.000 And if I'm supposed to pretend I'm not someone who I am and ruin my life and my enjoyment, my pursuit of happiness, which is a right that everyone preaches, how am I not supposed to enjoy and like, how is it

03:00:12.000 Such a bad thing for me to be with another man.

03:00:17.000 If it's my desire and you just acknowledge that it's sexual, it's hardwired into your brain, how does that make any sense?

03:00:26.000 This is a hard thing to get into without actually, like you said, like, I mean, you didn't want to talk about Christianity, but it's a hard thing to stop to start talking.

03:00:34.000 I believe in God as well.

03:00:36.000 Well, yeah, no, it's a hard thing to talk about.

03:00:39.000 So you start because you'll start tiptoeing into morals and whatnot.

03:00:43.000 And then and then you are having a full out moral conversation.

03:00:45.000 No, you know, D, if you're talking about whether I think it's right, then I base it upon my Christian morals, which is I don't believe it's right.

03:00:53.000 You know,

03:00:54.000 I'm just not well read up on the science of it, dawg.

03:00:57.000 Like the brain stuff, that's a lot of big words, and I ain't about all the big words.

03:01:09.000 You know, I mean... I'm not saying that I'm supposed to read it.

03:01:17.000 I'm not about them words, boy.

03:01:19.000 I like it, I like it, yeah.

03:01:22.000 Like, I'm denying, like, I'm not gonna read it because it's probably wrong.

03:01:25.000 Like, I just, it's a very, like, I just, I'm not well-read in that, you know what I mean?

03:01:29.000 So I'm not gonna, the only thing I can answer, obviously, is from a moral standpoint, and so that's where I stand on that.

03:01:34.000 No, the way that I, the way that I see it, I'm like, okay, they may think that in their brain, but guess what?

03:01:39.000 So do people with, um, uh, what, what is the word they hear voices in their head?

03:01:43.000 Um, schizophrenia.

03:01:45.000 Yeah.

03:01:45.000 I'm like, like there are, so we're going to just tell everybody that the word, the voices that they hear are actually real and they're right and everything too.

03:01:52.000 Okay.

03:01:53.000 Um, so do you want to get into that?

03:01:55.000 We can't, I would love to talk about that.

03:01:57.000 So, um, it's a, um,

03:02:01.000 It's kind of like schizophrenia, like we all are aware that like, no one else hears those voices.

03:02:08.000 Therefore, it's not a reality for us.

03:02:12.000 But it's a very real reality for that person.

03:02:15.000 And I just don't

03:02:17.000 Okay, but what I'm trying to say is, like, literally, if it's your reality, yeah, but it's not the actual reality.

03:02:23.000 Okay, so, but it's a very real reality that- Okay, so, I'm okay with gay people, but you should not encourage someone who thinks that voices are real. 1.00

03:02:34.000 That's okay.

03:02:35.000 That's not a good thing.

03:02:36.000 You should never encourage that.

03:02:37.000 What you're saying is their reality.

03:02:39.000 It doesn't matter if it's their reality.

03:02:40.000 That's a messed up, not true reality.

03:02:43.000 I'm not on their side with this.

03:02:45.000 I mean, that's an awful argument.

03:02:49.000 Yeah.

03:02:50.000 I mean, like, that's, you know, that's literally, you know, lying to somebody.

03:02:54.000 I never said to promote that.

03:02:56.000 I said that

03:02:57.000 You can't compare schizophrenia to sexuality.

03:03:01.000 We're not comparing it to sexuality, we're comparing it to the brain concept that you said.

03:03:06.000 Yeah, it's scientifically proven that it's hormonal, environmental, and genetic.

03:03:15.000 So let's do one that's more sexually oriented, like pedophilia.

03:03:19.000 So pedophilia is like, I don't know anyone that in

03:03:27.000 In the LGBT community that would actually ever support that. 1.00

03:03:30.000 I don't understand where that came from. 0.95

03:03:32.000 Like, it's disgusting.

03:03:33.000 Oh, I've seen tweets.

03:03:35.000 I've seen plenty of tweets.

03:03:36.000 The LGBT community doesn't stand for that. 1.00

03:03:40.000 Keith supports it. 0.99

03:03:41.000 Dude, homosexuals and pedophiles were like this for decades. 1.00

03:03:46.000 They still are, but they're secret. 1.00

03:03:48.000 So there's these disgusting pedophiles, like, I don't know, like Jessica Yaniv. 1.00

03:03:53.000 How are those people supposed to represent our community? 0.97

03:03:55.000 When I'm on here, a very respectful person just trying to like have conversations, how are you going to take the bad people when I'm

03:04:04.000 Instead of taking the good people to represent.

03:04:06.000 I just want to say one thing, Jessica, you need this on TikTok, make sure you get rid of her.

03:04:10.000 I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not trying to just, I'm not trying to, you know, generalize your group that yes, everybody agrees with that.

03:04:16.000 However, we, you know, we are, we are trying to make the point here that there are people in your community that, you know, believe that and accept that. 0.98

03:04:25.000 There's a lot of ignorant, incompetent people in every community. 0.93

03:04:29.000 But if you ask somebody that's in that community, who was their first, and then they're gonna be like, oh, I was 16, he was 24, or something like that. 0.98

03:04:38.000 It's an actual thing that's a part of that community, because all the gay guys that I've ever talked to, because I live next to West Hollywood, oh yeah, my first was, he was 22, and I was 16 or 14.

03:04:47.000 It's always that kind of answer.

03:04:55.000 Because the LGBT community is very toxic and it has lots of issues. 1.00

03:05:00.000 So you want us to accept those issues and that toxicity?

03:05:04.000 So you can see that there is a lot of toxicity.

03:05:06.000 I want you to understand that these people I don't want representing me.

03:05:11.000 I want... Sounds like they've got a lot of problems.

03:05:13.000 It does have a lot of problems.

03:05:15.000 They're bringing their problems with them.

03:05:18.000 Like, like... My whole point of the video was just the fact that

03:05:22.000 We expect them to not act upon those sexual desires.

03:05:26.000 Yeah, but that's not the same thing as homosexuality.

03:05:28.000 That is the same thing.

03:05:30.000 It is exactly the same thing as homosexuality. 0.99

03:05:34.000 Listen, it's a choice.

03:05:37.000 Consenting adults, I get that.

03:05:39.000 It's different from consenting adults and kids.

03:05:42.000 But what I'm saying is the same idea of acting upon it.

03:05:45.000 That's all we're saying from a Christian standpoint of view.

03:05:48.000 Well, I believe in God as well and Christians as well.

03:05:54.000 Homosexuality wasn't even a word until I believe it was the 1890s maybe.

03:06:01.000 We're good.

03:06:20.000 Predicted that there was a mistranslation that it really was referencing pedophilia rather than homosexuality.

03:06:27.000 I mean, it's pretty black and white, though.

03:06:31.000 Make that argument.

03:06:32.000 Like, it's not just a thing that it talks about in the Old Testament and Leviticus.

03:06:36.000 It talks about it as well as in 1 Corinthians, and it doesn't use the word explicitly homosexuality, but it's just a man... 0.89

03:06:44.000 Homosexuality is a word that man created over time.

03:06:47.000 It says a man laying with another man.

03:06:50.000 And the reason why... I mean, it doesn't literally mean just a man... And the Bible says a lot of stupid, outdated things. 1.00

03:06:57.000 Just because you think it's outdated doesn't mean that the actual word is true. 0.95

03:07:02.000 If the Bible is the holiest book in the world, then it doesn't get outdated.

03:07:07.000 I'm sorry, but it doesn't.

03:07:08.000 It's the word of God.

03:07:09.000 It's eternal.

03:07:10.000 There are more ancient manuscripts for the Bible than any other book ever written.

03:07:16.000 Do you realize?

03:07:16.000 I do not remember the exact time, but you can fact check this.

03:07:20.000 At a time period, the Pope, the fish market was struggling, okay?

03:07:25.000 And the Pope told the public that God told him to eat fish this certain day, so for this certain day you could only eat fish, so the fish market could make money.

03:07:35.000 Okay, well, a lot of Catholicism isn't even biblical anyway.

03:07:39.000 Hold on, wait.

03:07:43.000 Look, look, look, look.

03:07:46.000 Before we even open up a whole nother can of worms.

03:07:47.000 No, I wasn't trying to tear on Nick.

03:07:49.000 Let me go back.

03:07:49.000 No, you're good.

03:07:51.000 Let's not talk about how the Catholic Church is a bunch of what we're talking about, but hey.

03:07:55.000 Let's not talk about it being outdated, right?

03:07:58.000 Let's not talk about indulgences or none of that stuff.

03:08:00.000 Somebody earlier during this Zoom call said there's a difference between old ceremonial law

03:08:07.000 It also talks about things like mixed fabric and not cutting your hair.

03:08:35.000 Old Testament law, dawg.

03:08:37.000 I don't think you understand the point of the term ceremonial laws and moral laws.

03:08:45.000 I don't want to bash that.

03:08:47.000 Look, I don't want to bash that.

03:08:48.000 Now, the no cutting your hair thing is actually a Nazarene vow and you are not required to take a Nazarene vow.

03:08:53.000 A lot of people take it because it's like a thing to become closer to God almost like in a sense of what a monk would do to try and become you know more enlightened in the sense you don't have to do it but or not a monk sorry that was a buddhist monk there we go that's from before it's something you don't have to do but people do it because they want to be closer to God so that's where the no cutting hair thing comes from now with that being said

03:09:17.000 Like that's not that's that's a ceremonial law.

03:09:19.000 I don't know if people still take the Nazarene vow now.

03:09:21.000 I imagine maybe some like Jewish people still do because if they're focusing on the Torah and whatnot in the Old Testament, but there is now a very big difference between ceremonial law and moral law.

03:09:32.000 So the fabric, the same fabrics, what you eat, shelter, that's all ceremonial law.

03:09:37.000 Moral law is completely different.

03:09:39.000 And the more I understand that like personally, I don't believe that, um,

03:09:46.000 God, the God that I believe in, and the God that I believe is the Christian God, would never treat anyone differently because of who they love.

03:09:54.000 Because that's just something I will always disagree with, and no one will convince me otherwise.

03:09:59.000 Like, no matter what anything says.

03:10:02.000 Yeah, I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, man, and what you believe in, but at the same time, like, when you're the same God you're saying that you believe in, God, we have a loving God, yes.

03:10:11.000 We also have a wrathful God.

03:10:13.000 I just don't understand how I didn't choose to be born different.

03:10:38.000 Go through all the trauma I had to go through because of that.

03:10:42.000 I agree.

03:10:43.000 I agree that, you know what?

03:10:44.000 So who chose that?

03:10:45.000 Who decided that?

03:10:49.000 God presents us with trials in our life to make ourselves better, to better ourselves through our trials.

03:10:55.000 And the thing is, everybody is, I believe that everybody has sinful tendencies that we struggle with the most.

03:11:04.000 But it's not, and I just don't understand how it's something that I

03:11:08.000 You missed the whole nail, son.

03:11:09.000 You hit your hand.

03:11:09.000 You didn't hit the nail.

03:11:11.000 Instead of the whole rape thing, I would say a pornography addiction.

03:11:33.000 I would say, I would say like that, you know, something like if somebody has a pornography addiction, they can't help it because all they, you know, all they want every time is their urge is to just straight, straight up go to the, you know.

03:11:44.000 Dark browser, you know, or the, you know, what do you want to call it?

03:11:46.000 What do you call it?

03:11:47.000 I'm not even that dark.

03:11:48.000 Incognito mode.

03:11:49.000 Incognito mode.

03:11:50.000 I know nothing about that.

03:11:53.000 Yeah, right!

03:11:54.000 My Christian self and, you know, from my Christian roots, I don't believe anyone is born gay.

03:11:59.000 Now, with that being said, we are attempted.

03:12:02.000 The second we come out of the womb, I believe we're attempted.

03:12:06.000 We get hit with left and right of all sorts of different things, right?

03:12:09.000 How we handle those temptations determines how we'll keep growing as a person.

03:12:14.000 And sometimes you go through something and, like I said, this is through my Christian world.

03:12:19.000 Why are there two Edgars waiting in the waiting room?

03:12:22.000 Oh my God.

03:12:23.000 But no, how we go through things, right?

03:12:26.000 We might be going through things for a long, long time. 0.87

03:12:29.000 I'm just saying, the God, if we share the same God, I'm not saying he's going to hate you because you're gay.

03:12:35.000 Through my Christian morals, I just don't think that's what he has planned for you.

03:12:38.000 It might be something you're going through right now, and maybe you end up changing.

03:12:42.000 And people can go through trials their whole life.

03:12:46.000 You know what I mean?

03:12:46.000 Like, if we go back and look at Job, he didn't go through it all his life, but that man got hit with everything.

03:12:55.000 If another person keeps on comparing me and Nick Fuentes, the way we look, the green screen and everything, I swear.

03:13:01.000 Are people saying that?

03:13:04.000 Yeah, people are saying that we look the exact same.

03:13:06.000 We've got headphones on, we've got a green screen.

03:13:10.000 You do!

03:13:10.000 Headphone check.

03:13:11.000 Put a finger down if you're in front of a green screen.

03:13:15.000 Put a finger down if you can't broadcast.

03:13:17.000 Put a finger down if you're wearing a headset.

03:13:22.000 So if you don't mind I'd like to move over to like more instead of I feel like we kind of drifted back to what we're what you guys were talking about earlier that I want to talk more about specifically on transgenderism because I feel like that's not really talked about a lot at all I think I was just unmuted would I be able to just grab something

03:13:53.000 Sorry.

03:13:53.000 I don't know who I'm muted, but sure, I guess.

03:13:56.000 I think Aubrey did or something.

03:13:57.000 Sorry if I'm butting in.

03:13:58.000 I was just wondering, so do you guys have any direct arguments, whether it comes to homosexuality or trans people or anything like that, that are removed from religion?

03:14:07.000 I do.

03:14:11.000 I mean from Nick Fuentes if he wants to kind of you know, so what do you think like removing kind of the Christian morality realm here?

03:14:21.000 What do you feel is like the general evil of society when it comes to homosexuality? 0.99

03:14:27.000 Yeah, that's a good question.

03:14:28.000 And you know, of course, it's difficult.

03:14:31.000 I think that

03:14:32.000 It's hard for non-religious people to wrap their heads around the opposition to homosexuality, because non-religious people view everything as matter, and if we're all just atoms, we're all just stardust, then who really cares what's happening in the bedroom or anywhere else?

03:14:50.000 But what we find with

03:14:53.000 Homosexuality and transsexuality is that, in my opinion, a lot of the factors that lead to same-sex attraction or homosexual acts is largely trauma.

03:15:05.000 And a lot of people meme about this, but it's totally true that 1.00

03:15:08.000 Okay.

03:15:09.000 Okay.

03:15:26.000 Yeah.

03:15:26.000 Cool.

03:15:41.000 The sexuality of a gay person is very different than the sexuality of a straight person. 0.86

03:15:45.000 What are the characteristics of homosexual sexuality?

03:15:49.000 It's promiscuity, it's drugs, it's deviancy, even on top of the same- But that's such a generalization!

03:15:55.000 Can I finish?

03:15:56.000 We've let you- We've let- We've heard the arguments in favor.

03:15:58.000 I apologize.

03:15:59.000 Thank you.

03:16:00.000 So what we tend to find in these communities is we tend to find, frankly, a lot of mental illness, a lot of anxiety and disorders like that.

03:16:10.000 We tend to find a lot of this trauma in their past.

03:16:13.000 We find a lot of acting out drugs, many, many sexual partners.

03:16:18.000 I mean, I've seen studies, and obviously studies aren't great because it's people self-reporting about their sex lives, but I think there was a study done in San Francisco

03:16:27.000 Where it said that more than 50% of the people polled said that they had sex with 2,000 people.

03:16:32.000 More than 2,000 people. 0.94

03:16:34.000 Heterosexuals just don't have sex on that level. 0.99

03:16:36.000 And so, just from even a practical point of view, I see gay sex or, you know, homosexual acts as basically traumatic, as expressions of sort of mental issues or trauma early on. 0.99

03:16:51.000 And these things, I think, are remedied by 0.55

03:16:54.000 Do you think I could respond from, like, my personal experience?

03:17:05.000 Okay.

03:17:06.000 Yeah.

03:17:06.000 Okay.

03:17:07.000 I was going to bring up something more general, but if you want to, you know, talk about that, we can start a question.

03:17:11.000 So let him, let him do that.

03:17:12.000 Yeah.

03:17:12.000 Okay.

03:17:13.000 Go ahead.

03:17:14.000 Oh, but before you do, I'm headed out.

03:17:16.000 It was nice hanging with y'all.

03:17:17.000 Everybody have a great evening.

03:17:18.000 Stay safe.

03:17:19.000 Wash your hands and stay home. 0.98

03:17:20.000 I love you, fatty. 0.95

03:17:22.000 Goodnight, big guy.

03:17:23.000 Bye, guys.

03:17:24.000 Eat drugs. 0.92

03:17:24.000 So, Nick, I just wanted to add on to that by saying, so when it comes down to, like, homosexuality in general, we both acknowledge that that's not a choice. 0.92

03:17:33.000 It's something that's kind of, like, ingrained in your brain as you're born.

03:17:37.000 So, obviously, I think you would say that, like, heterosexual acts are natural, but homosexual acts are not. 0.96

03:17:47.000 Well, I think that, um, I don't think that anybody is born gay.

03:17:51.000 I think that it, like, like you said, it's environmental and, uh, you know, maybe there's a genetic component, but I think it's largely environmental.

03:17:57.000 But, um, what is different to me, um, is not even religious, it's philosophical.

03:18:03.000 And this is in the Catholic tradition.

03:18:04.000 It's, this is what our church believes, but it's a philosophical argument that,

03:18:10.000 You're telling it's kind of like a complicated philosophical thing.

03:18:13.000 If you read Aristotle or you understand like the causes, it's complicated stuff.

03:18:17.000 But if I can reduce it to you a little bit, it's that we are created or at least we can see in the world, whether you believe in God or not,

03:18:27.000 That there is some signature of design, in the sense that things are created for particular ends.

03:18:33.000 And I don't think you have to be necessarily religious to believe this, but you could say that, I mean, why does this water bottle exist?

03:18:39.000 You can drink water out of it.

03:18:40.000 Why does this jar of peanuts exist?

03:18:42.000 It exists to contain peanuts.

03:18:45.000 And so on.

03:18:45.000 Things are created with goal-directedness.

03:18:48.000 Things are directed towards specific ends.

03:18:51.000 When we, as people, are created, our different faculties and organs are created directed towards something.

03:18:56.000 Your heart is created directed towards the end of putting blood throughout your body, right?

03:19:02.000 Pumping blood through your body.

03:19:03.000 Your mouth for eating and so on.

03:19:05.000 Your reproductive organs, obviously, are created with the ends in mind of reproducing.

03:19:11.000 Um, the anus is not created in mind to be, uh, you know, violently... Yeah, I don't have to get too... That's not why it was made.

03:19:22.000 And this is why, you know, typically a lot of these sex acts end up in very, very bad medical things, like trans. 0.99

03:19:28.000 You look at some of these trans procedures, 1.00

03:19:30.000 And they're ghastly enough as they are.

03:19:32.000 I mean, people getting things lopped off and reassembled and everything.

03:19:37.000 They also have all kinds of problems where you have to have them like, you know, you have to go in later because there are complications.

03:19:44.000 There's lots of complications and things that need to be corrected at times.

03:19:48.000 It's a new surgery.

03:19:49.000 But the point is, is that we're not made to be chopped up and disassembled and put back together and slamming each other.

03:19:56.000 You know, it's just not what it's supposed to be.

03:20:01.000 No, it's a fact.

03:20:02.000 Yeah, I would like-

03:20:20.000 Well, animals are sub-rational, so I think when people make this naturalistic argument, when we're talking about nature,

03:20:39.000 There is this conflation in the modern day with nature as in like organic life versus like nature in a higher sense and like a philosophical sense.

03:20:50.000 So when I say that it's unnatural I don't mean that like you can't find it in nature.

03:20:54.000 You can find a lot of things in nature.

03:20:56.000 You can find murder and you know all kinds of horrible things in nature.

03:20:59.000 And you know also I would say that

03:21:02.000 I mean, we're not animals.

03:21:03.000 Animals do a lot of things that we don't like or don't care for, that are wrong.

03:21:07.000 And they're not just wrong because they're unethical or immoral, they transgress the rights of others, but because they violate the integrity or the nature of things.

03:21:16.000 And that is what we as rational humans should strive to avoid, is violating the integrity or the nature of things.

03:21:22.000 And I generally think that things that do violate that, they tend to create problems.

03:21:27.000 And I find that

03:21:29.000 You know, you can say, oh well, that's religious, or that I don't agree with that philosophy, but I will tell you that one of the big reasons I became religious and re-embraced religion is because I tended to notice that all the things that the Bible and Christianity says, if you follow them, you tend to do good.

03:21:46.000 It tends to be practical.

03:21:47.000 It tends to be, even though it's 2,000 years old, a lot of it tends to be

03:21:51.000 Very practical and very wise.

03:21:53.000 I find generally that this is the case, that you look at people that follow these lifestyles, you look at women that don't have kids, they tend to be miserable. 0.99

03:22:00.000 You look at men who are not breadwinners, miserable.

03:22:04.000 You find that when people violate their nature, when they violate the integrity of who they're supposed to be, they're not very happy, they're not very successful, they tend to be, you know, frankly, like basket cases, crazy types, depressive types, and I think you find that all over.

03:22:19.000 That's a huge claim.

03:22:20.000 Do you have like a source or like a study or something?

03:22:24.000 I'm telling you, I'm speaking, you asked if you could speak from your experience and I'm speaking from mine.

03:22:28.000 Because I'm a single, I'm a gay person that would like to explain how my childhood has affected my certain thing.

03:22:34.000 Saying that everyone that doesn't, saying that every woman that doesn't have kids is miserable without any source to back that up.

03:22:41.000 It's a huge claim.

03:22:42.000 Me saying that my personal experiences did not affect my sexuality, and I have facts from my life that can prove that up, including my other siblings that went through the same stuff as me that didn't turn out gay, shows that there was not a trend that came out of my parents' divorce of us all coming out gay.

03:22:59.000 You saying that a woman that don't have kids are miserable is no source or anything to back that up.

03:23:06.000 Sources are overrated, frankly.

03:23:09.000 Nick, I think it comes down to, I think we're just going to fundamentally disagree on necessarily that you believe that the fundamental teachings of the Bible should dictate 21st century life.

03:23:20.000 Now, you know, that can be what you end up believing.

03:23:22.000 I think it also comes down to how much of the Bible are you willing to embrace?

03:23:27.000 Because there are certain passages of the Bible that I feel are very often disregarded by whether it be the Republican Party or certain people who feel it doesn't fit their narrative.

03:23:35.000 We've already addressed this.

03:23:36.000 You know, like what is it?

03:23:37.000 Beating the poor, clothing the sick, or welcoming the foreigners. 1.00

03:23:40.000 Oh, so what?

03:23:40.000 You all want foreigners in Israel?

03:23:42.000 Socialism or something?

03:23:42.000 Come on.

03:23:43.000 What?

03:23:43.000 Can you define socialism?

03:23:44.000 Do you mean we should be like socialists or something?

03:23:46.000 Can you define socialism?

03:23:47.000 I'm not talking about socialism.

03:23:48.000 I'm just saying a lot of people like to embrace this idea of Christianity, but I see a lot of- Which is it?

03:23:55.000 You say, like, well, it's the current year, so, it's the current year, 21st century, but then you say, well, but we're gonna bully you, and they're like, well, but you're not Christian enough, you're not... No, what I'm saying is... Well, I'm on board with the whole Bible, I'm on board with the whole Bible. 0.62

03:24:11.000 You are.

03:24:11.000 I'm Catholic, so then why... We have interpretation.

03:24:13.000 Okay.

03:24:14.000 We have interpretation.

03:24:14.000 Okay, so I'm just curious, like, why are you... and you said you wanted to put a halt on immigration, correct?

03:24:19.000 Yeah.

03:24:20.000 Correct.

03:24:20.000 Oh well, that means mass immigration to destroy our country, right?

03:24:23.000 I'm not saying that.

03:24:40.000 A nation has an obligation to take in as many people as they can as refugees.

03:24:45.000 Not like, not like maximum, like, we're gonna take in everybody! 0.90

03:24:48.000 It means, like, that they reasonably can without, I don't know the exact passage, but it says, like, a reasonable amount that they can sustain, and it also says,

03:24:56.000 How would you describe American culture?

03:25:24.000 We've been over this.

03:25:25.000 Speak English.

03:25:26.000 Be a Christian.

03:25:27.000 Salute the flag.

03:25:28.000 Support our troops.

03:25:30.000 Vote for Donald Trump.

03:25:31.000 Eat McDonald's.

03:25:32.000 Play video games.

03:25:33.000 Skateboard.

03:25:33.000 Can we take it back to what I was trying to do?

03:25:37.000 You made a claim that homosexuality is caused by past trauma, and as I said before, how

03:25:46.000 Did only one out of four.

03:25:48.000 Let's cover this one topic and then we do want to get some other questions.

03:25:53.000 I'm totally cool with moving on.

03:25:56.000 I'm going to just chime in for real quick.

03:25:57.000 I personally don't agree with Nicholas on his stance on like how people become homosexual.

03:26:03.000 I personally believe in the science behind it, but I mean you're kind of using an anecdotal example.

03:26:08.000 Again, I'm not agreeing with what he's saying, but you're kind of using an anecdotal example there.

03:26:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I would say it's a little bit anecdotal, but there are plenty of other situations in which that is the case.

03:26:19.000 Yeah, and again, I'm not agreeing with him, I'm just saying that your argument isn't very strong for your side.

03:26:26.000 So yeah, I just kind of wanted to understand.

03:26:29.000 All right.

03:26:30.000 Yeah.

03:26:30.000 Thank you for the questions though.

03:26:31.000 For sure.

03:26:32.000 For sure.

03:26:32.000 I'm going to head out.

03:26:34.000 Yeah.

03:26:35.000 I'm out of here.

03:26:36.000 I'm going to bed.

03:26:39.000 I don't know how y'all are still on. 0.99

03:26:40.000 It's four in the four in the four in the damn morning. 0.96

03:26:42.000 But I guess y'all do you. 0.99

03:26:45.000 I'm out of here.

03:26:47.000 I guess some of us are not essential workers.

03:26:49.000 So let's go.

03:26:52.000 I have crack.

03:26:53.000 What?

03:26:53.000 What was the question?

03:27:11.000 We don't want to do this again since we didn't get to hit a lot of the questions.

03:27:15.000 Oh yeah, sure.

03:27:16.000 Sure.

03:27:17.000 I didn't understand the question.

03:27:18.000 Yeah, we could do that.

03:27:19.000 Yeah.

03:27:20.000 Yeah.

03:27:20.000 We, we usually, we usually do these like every night.

03:27:22.000 So like if you wanted to hop on again, you know, it's up to you, of course.

03:27:26.000 Depends on your schedule.

03:27:27.000 Sure.

03:27:28.000 Yeah.

03:27:28.000 I got my show, which is run from about 7 to 10 central, but yeah, I'd be down to do it sometime this week.

03:27:33.000 Just let me know.

03:27:34.000 Awesome.

03:27:35.000 Sounds awesome.

03:27:36.000 We're all going to be on your show now.

03:27:37.000 What?

03:27:39.000 I'll stream it next time.

03:27:40.000 Sure.

03:27:41.000 Yeah.

03:27:41.000 Why not?

03:27:43.000 Yeah, that'd be, that'd be awesome actually.

03:27:44.000 So, uh, okay.

03:27:46.000 Um, Frederick did have a questionnaire.

03:27:48.000 Frederick, we can go to you.

03:27:49.000 Uh, hang on, hang on, hang on.

03:27:52.000 It's not a meeting you for some reason.

03:27:56.000 Oh, there we go.

03:27:57.000 Gotcha.

03:27:59.000 Uh, I just wanted to.

03:28:02.000 I had something that was kind of missing to the last conversation.

03:28:07.000 And so I have a lot of like gay, lesbian, bi friends.

03:28:15.000 And I came from a highly Catholic like community and a highly central Illinois Catholic community.

03:28:27.000 If Nick, you realize like how those are.

03:28:29.000 Um, but

03:28:32.000 I guess the one big thing that like we're talking to a lot of them is like, how do I say this?

03:28:41.000 Uh, like when they go out on their pride marches, it's because like the history behind all of them, like being unjustly oppressed.

03:28:55.000 Like, I think that's just a very important thing to like keep in mind.

03:29:01.000 is that they have been put back in almost all aspects of society and they're just like happy to be recognized like that's something like that's that i've been like i don't know like i just i wish that aspect was put out more like that they're now welcomed like and i guess that's like yeah

03:29:31.000 We're good to go.

03:29:47.000 When we approach anybody who's doing something wrong, the answer is not, you know, beat them up or something like that.

03:29:53.000 I don't know why Violet is laughing here. 1.00

03:30:00.000 Violet does this when it gets late at night. 0.68

03:30:02.000 Yeah, I get a little weird when it gets late for me, because I had this up.

03:30:09.000 And then somebody spotlighted me, so I was like laughing.

03:30:13.000 The point is, we wouldn't have a drug abusers parade or an alcoholics parade or a rapist parade or something, and not to compare homosexuality to rape, but the point is it's a bad action. 0.96

03:30:32.000 It's an immoral action. 0.96

03:30:34.000 Why would we be marching down the street saying we are proud of sinning?

03:30:38.000 We are proud of sinning.

03:30:39.000 We are finally free to sin, and no one will judge us, and no one will tell us otherwise.

03:30:45.000 I think that that is wrong.

03:30:47.000 I think we should have parades that celebrate families.

03:30:50.000 Let's have a parade that says, how many kids do you have?

03:30:53.000 You have 10 kids?

03:30:55.000 Join the parade.

03:30:57.000 Let's bring back parades with crosses and nice things.

03:31:02.000 As you look at these gay parades, and it's very telling, who comes out of the woodwork to these things? 1.00

03:31:08.000 Is it, like, well-adjusted, like, normal people, or is it a lot of people that are doing freakish, deviant things, and they're stripped down, and they're dancing suggestively?

03:31:16.000 Like, I think any person, even if you're not religious, some impulse says, there's something immoral or scandalous about this, and that's natural.

03:31:25.000 There's something natural about that sort of, like, repulsion, emotion.

03:31:29.000 That people have when this kind of stuff comes around because because it is wrong and we know that intuitively These parades are they're always just like a hot spot of promiscuous sex drugs often. 0.54

03:31:40.000 It's pedophilia Scandal just bad stuff.

03:31:44.000 That's not good.

03:31:45.000 And I you know, maybe we shouldn't be like, you know killing anybody but we definitely shouldn't be celebrating that stuff that stuff should stay, you know get back in the closet and

03:31:53.000 Get back in the bedroom, wherever it was before, and he's to go back to where it came from.

03:31:58.000 Because I weep when I see children that go to these parades, and you know, they're mothers.

03:32:02.000 It's always mothers. 0.99

03:32:04.000 Dress them up in rainbow outfits and everything, and it's like, this is what the devil wants.

03:32:08.000 The devil is smiling whenever this kind of stuff happens.

03:32:11.000 Every June, isn't that kind of interesting?

03:32:13.000 June, pride month, sixth month of the year? 0.97

03:32:15.000 The devil smiles when people are throwing these big parades.

03:32:18.000 It's not good.

03:32:20.000 I mean I guess the thing that like I'm trying to get at is that so like I've totally gone through a whole different thing like of I really don't consider myself Catholic anymore as I've just learned and gone through life.

03:32:36.000 I'm not going to talk about that but I think it's just important to realize that they have been oppressed and there's a long history like with like

03:32:49.000 Religion and just other aspects of life of just like hatred. 0.64

03:32:56.000 And like, I don't know.

03:32:58.000 It's just a interesting thing because like there should be a history type thing.

03:33:04.000 Sorry.

03:33:06.000 It's really late where I am too.

03:33:08.000 Um, but I, I just like, I think knowing the history of what has happened is relevant to the conversation.

03:33:19.000 Um, I fully support everyone.

03:33:25.000 And like, I think that, like, I don't know.

03:33:31.000 I don't know.

03:33:31.000 Sorry.

03:33:31.000 I'm just kind of flustered by it because I- Yeah, you're good, Frederick.

03:33:36.000 Listen, we, like, I understand what you're trying to get across here.

03:33:40.000 Frederick, you know, he, he wants to be open and welcoming because he wants to be polite.

03:33:46.000 He wants to be, he doesn't want to,

03:33:49.000 Infringe on anybody's beliefs.

03:33:51.000 And I respect that wholeheartedly.

03:33:53.000 Respect that, you know, listen, uh, you know, you don't have, you don't always have to be the person who's in the limelight and who's, you know, saying everything nobody wants to hear.

03:34:02.000 Like, you know, Nicholas over here, he's just, you know, he just says all the things he says, whatever you don't want to hear, no matter where you are.

03:34:09.000 But no, I'm, I'm kidding.

03:34:12.000 Uh, honestly, like, I think that, you know, I think that everybody needs to have a level of respect, you know, no matter what viewpoint you're listening to, because, uh, because it all, you know, everybody has passion for what they believe.

03:34:24.000 And so, you know, what you have to, you have to respect what people believe.

03:34:28.000 So I definitely, I definitely agree with Frederick in the sense that, you know, do I, do I have to agree with it?

03:34:34.000 No, but I do need to respect it.

03:34:38.000 I believe that no jokes are off limits.

03:34:41.000 Hell yeah.

03:34:41.000 That's something I haven't said in a while.

03:34:43.000 I agree with that.

03:34:44.000 No jokes are off limits?

03:34:46.000 If anybody's seen my stuff on the Hype House, I get a lot of people like, you can't say that!

03:34:54.000 You can't do that!

03:34:56.000 Bro, I literally said I'm canceling a Tinder date with a Chinese girl because I don't want to catch Corona. 1.00

03:35:02.000 I disagree with what Vincent is saying there, but I don't get mad at him for it.

03:35:08.000 Because a joke, even if it's a bad joke, in my opinion, and people on the left always get mad at me for this, but if it's the intention of a joke or meme or something, I won't get mad about it.

03:35:17.000 That's my stance.

03:35:20.000 Yeah, I went to go play some Call of Duty with the boys.

03:35:42.000 No, they don't sound the same.

03:35:43.000 No, we don't sound the same at all.

03:35:45.000 You guys sound super similar.

03:35:46.000 He goes, I don't think so.

03:35:47.000 He has, like, a little bit of a northern accent.

03:35:50.000 Northern accent?

03:35:51.000 Well, yeah, I'm from Chicago.

03:35:52.000 Yeah, Chicago, you know, like, you know.

03:35:54.000 Chicago.

03:35:54.000 And Lance is more of, like, a proper southerner.

03:35:58.000 I do not talk like that.

03:35:59.000 I can talk like that.

03:36:01.000 But I'm not going to.

03:36:03.000 So.

03:36:03.000 You like my background, by the way?

03:36:05.000 It's probably the best background out of everyone.

03:36:08.000 I like that, yeah.

03:36:09.000 That's good. 0.96

03:36:09.000 Joe binds a pedophile. 0.96

03:36:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:36:13.000 Everyone on the left and the right can agree that Joe Biden absolutely sucks. 0.99

03:36:17.000 Watch out there, guy. 0.99

03:36:17.000 There's a guy behind you. 0.99

03:36:19.000 Yeah, she's like, uh... He's just sniffing you. 0.64

03:36:23.000 I mean, it feels kind of nice.

03:36:24.000 It's lined up perfectly.

03:36:25.000 It's lined up perfectly.

03:36:28.000 He, like, did that on purpose.

03:36:30.000 He's like, let me just slide over this way a little bit.

03:36:32.000 Yeah, I did.

03:36:33.000 I, like, moved my camera.

03:36:33.000 This was your best landing joke yet.

03:36:36.000 Oh, okay.

03:36:36.000 Too bad Ashley's not here to see it.

03:36:39.000 I know! 0.99

03:36:41.000 Damn dude, I literally roasted her today and she got so mad and she sent me like six or seven DMs and I posted or I sent her a hose mad meme and she got fired. 1.00

03:36:51.000 It was hilarious. 1.00

03:36:53.000 Oh my gosh.

03:36:54.000 She's actually really really pissed at me right now, but I don't care.

03:36:57.000 She gonna go cry about it. 0.50

03:37:00.000 Oh, I made a joke about her stutter. 0.99

03:37:02.000 Zoomer pride worldwide.

03:37:05.000 How many of you guys are Zoomers? 0.98

03:37:07.000 You're all Zoomers? 0.99

03:37:08.000 Everyone's a Zoomer, Brad.

03:37:09.000 Okay, explain to me what a Zoomer is. 0.52

03:37:10.000 I don't understand.

03:37:11.000 Generation Z. Are you into this?

03:37:12.000 Generation Z. Zoomer, Boomer?

03:37:15.000 That's all that means?

03:37:16.000 That's literally it?

03:37:18.000 I thought all these people with Zoomer names are just like people who like going to Zooms. 0.92

03:37:23.000 Epic?

03:37:24.000 Epic Zoomer?

03:37:30.000 You'd be surprised how many people join Zooms just because they like joining Zooms.

03:37:34.000 You a gamer?

03:37:35.000 Oh yeah, I do it all the time.

03:37:36.000 I raid them all the time.

03:37:36.000 Oh yeah.

03:37:38.000 There's this one clip of him roasting the teacher.

03:37:42.000 You guys gotta see it. 1.00

03:37:43.000 He goes like, shut the fuck up you bitch. 1.00

03:37:47.000 Everyone in the entire Zoom class just like, just was like silent. 1.00

03:37:52.000 It was hilarious.

03:37:55.000 It's a group chat moment.

03:37:58.000 Lance, you probably have it on your phone.

03:37:59.000 Show it.

03:37:59.000 I think I might.

03:38:00.000 I might have it on my phone. 1.00

03:38:01.000 No, I just said, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

03:38:04.000 And he goes, in the middle of the Zoom class, and everyone was dying. 1.00

03:38:08.000 All right.

03:38:10.000 I do want to go, because I'm probably going to go.

03:38:12.000 And soon?

03:38:13.000 Soon.

03:38:13.000 Not yet, but soon.

03:38:14.000 So I want to go at least three more questions.

03:38:17.000 And then we can let people go, because I know everybody's tired.

03:38:19.000 I mean, look at Gabby.

03:38:20.000 Gabby looks so tired.

03:38:23.000 She's not even responding, she's so tired.

03:38:26.000 I have class at noon.

03:38:28.000 I have class at 9 in the morning.

03:38:29.000 I don't even wake up until 4.

03:38:32.000 Look at Jordan.

03:38:32.000 Jordan's just waiting for him to fall asleep.

03:38:36.000 Look at this guy's background.

03:38:39.000 He has Obama putting a medal on him.

03:38:43.000 That's actually really good.

03:38:44.000 That's pretty good.

03:38:46.000 Wait, who?

03:38:46.000 Oh my gosh.

03:38:52.000 Let's go to base John Doe because he has had his hand up for a while.

03:38:55.000 Where's that Zoomer Brad kid?

03:38:57.000 He keeps making TikToks about me.

03:38:59.000 John Doe, what's up?

03:39:00.000 Thank you, thank you for unmuting me.

03:39:03.000 If you could go to, uh, uh, who's, who's the guy next?

03:39:07.000 Uh, let me, let me just find him really quick.

03:39:10.000 I got to shout him out.

03:39:11.000 Well, anyway, anyway.

03:39:14.000 My first question was, uh, I was scrolling through the timeline as you do, and I see, I see Jaden McNeil, I see Jake Lloyd, I see all the boys posting, uh, Nick Video's newest TikTok, and I watched it, and all the comments seemed to agree that he was extremely homosexual in that TikTok.

03:39:35.000 And I wanted to make clear, I haven't seen any of his stuff, or whatever.

03:39:39.000 Are you actually a homosexual? 1.00

03:39:40.000 Or was that just that one video with the little... That's literally, like, the dumbest question, dude. 1.00

03:39:47.000 No. 0.99

03:39:47.000 He's probably more straight than you if you ask me. 0.99

03:39:50.000 So... On to the next question.

03:39:54.000 Alright, great stuff! 0.99

03:39:56.000 That was the dumbest question ever. 0.99

03:39:58.000 Alright, Josh! 0.99

03:39:59.000 What's up, Josh?

03:40:01.000 Alright, so, like, I have two things to say and then, like, two questions.

03:40:04.000 So, like, I'm sorry for you, like, because you had to debate that, and, like, Anarchist yesterday, and he wanted to, like, bring us all back to the Paleolithic era.

03:40:13.000 That guy!

03:40:15.000 And, uh, I hope you don't take this offensive, Gabby, but, like, I kind of feel like you have a Carol Baskin voice.

03:40:21.000 She doesn't.

03:40:24.000 But, like, my two- Gabby, talk.

03:40:27.000 What?

03:40:27.000 Hi.

03:40:29.000 I guess.

03:40:29.000 No, I'm not from the South.

03:40:30.000 I don't have an accent, unfortunately.

03:40:46.000 Yeah.

03:40:48.000 Like it's so funny.

03:40:49.000 The entire comments is like all the comments.

03:40:51.000 Why does OJ not have someone like go on his social media before he starts posting to like

03:41:04.000 Well, apparently if you read his book, he just blanked out and it just happened.

03:41:34.000 Alright, Callie.

03:41:35.000 What's up, Callie?

03:41:40.000 Hi.

03:41:40.000 I didn't actually expect to get unmuted, sorry.

03:41:45.000 So, I have a question for Nicholas Fuentes.

03:41:50.000 Sorry if I pronounced your last name wrong.

03:41:53.000 So, what are your thoughts on Nazi Germany?

03:41:58.000 Not a fan, not a fan.

03:42:00.000 Why, do you think I'm a Nazi?

03:42:02.000 No, no, I wanted your specific thoughts on specifically the scientific experiments that German scientists were instructed to do during World War II.

03:42:16.000 Well, I will say that there is a lot of nonsense floating around there. 0.99

03:42:22.000 Like I said, I'm not a denier, but we can all agree that this lampshades and bars of soap business, lots of bullshit. 0.99

03:42:30.000 If you read some of these diaries or personal accounts, and I don't know if you guys want to look into this, but they make these ridiculous claims. 0.98

03:42:40.000 There was one claim, and this was, by the way, the Nuremberg trials. 0.99

03:42:45.000 Not like I'm pulling this out of my ass. 0.99

03:42:46.000 This was in the Nuremberg trials when they're trying the Nazi for war crimes. 0.99

03:42:49.000 You had a guy...

03:42:51.000 They claimed that they would electrify the floors to kill people.

03:42:55.000 They would electrify the floor.

03:42:57.000 They had people that said that they would use carbon monoxide to kill people by running like gas engines.

03:43:02.000 And like, I mean, you know, the narrative is that it was Zyklon or whatever, but it wasn't carbon monoxide engines.

03:43:08.000 You know, I mean, that doesn't make any sense.

03:43:10.000 They would say that they would get, they would be ushered into like death chambers, get haircuts, 0.80

03:43:15.000 Then get the hair removed to make beds for Germans, move the people out, clean up the rooms, move them back in, then kill them. 1.00

03:43:23.000 So, you know, I think there's a lot of stuff that's clearly like, you know, atrocity propaganda. 0.62

03:43:29.000 You see this in any war, in any time there's atrocity propaganda where they try and really make it heavy-handed to guilt.

03:43:35.000 People and to, you know, bring down the hammer on the, uh, you know, transgressing country, but obviously I'm against, you know, genocide or human experimentation.

03:43:44.000 I mean, I'm against things that are evil, but I, you know, like every Holocaust survivor said that they were, uh, experimented on by Mengele, like every single one. 0.50

03:43:53.000 The Nazi doctrine, it's like, 0.94

03:43:56.000 Definitely he existed and definitely did terrible things, but not every one of them saw that guy.

03:44:01.000 Like, you know, clearly there's some fibbing going on.

03:44:05.000 So I would say that I'm against atrocities.

03:44:09.000 I'm against, you know, a decent person.

03:44:10.000 I'm Christian.

03:44:11.000 I don't think genocide is good.

03:44:13.000 Murder, state, systematic murder.

03:44:15.000 I don't know, not down with that or experimentation, but I do think, you know, there's a lot of stuff.

03:44:21.000 Electric floors, you know, lampshades, that kind of stuff. 0.78

03:44:23.000 I think we can all agree that's pretty silly.

03:44:26.000 So you're telling me you didn't hear about the cloning that they had? 0.60

03:44:28.000 He was everywhere, what are you talking about?

03:44:35.000 On Kamino?

03:44:37.000 Wait, I had a question for Nicholas after that.

03:44:39.000 Okay.

03:44:40.000 Do you watch Star Wars?

03:44:42.000 Of course, I love Star Wars.

03:44:43.000 Star Wars is best.

03:44:46.000 The new season of Star Wars.

03:44:47.000 The Clone Wars season.

03:44:48.000 Oh, I don't watch that.

03:44:50.000 No, I don't.

03:44:50.000 Oh, okay, never mind.

03:44:51.000 Get out of here.

03:44:53.000 I'm a prequel stan, okay?

03:44:54.000 I've been watching Revenge of the Sith.

03:44:56.000 Prequels are way better, man.

03:44:57.000 Sorry, Nicholas.

03:44:59.000 You can't call yourself based if you don't watch Clone Wars.

03:45:01.000 Really?

03:45:02.000 Is it that good?

03:45:03.000 That is the most alt-right thing.

03:45:05.000 That is the most alt-right thing.

03:45:06.000 It went down a little bit.

03:45:07.000 You don't like Clone Wars.

03:45:09.000 Wow.

03:45:10.000 I don't.

03:45:10.000 I just like Revenge of the Sith.

03:45:12.000 That's my favorite one.

03:45:13.000 That's the best one.

03:45:13.000 You have to watch Clone Wars then.

03:45:16.000 I'll check it out.

03:45:16.000 Is that on Netflix or what's it on?

03:45:19.000 Disney+.

03:45:21.000 I gotta give Disney money?

03:45:25.000 If you have Verizon Wireless, you get it free for a year.

03:45:27.000 I was about to say, I got it free. 0.98

03:45:28.000 Damn, I don't have Verizon. 0.99

03:45:30.000 I'll find some way. 0.99

03:45:31.000 Baked Alaska has it on his thing.

03:45:34.000 He's got a server in his garage.

03:45:36.000 He'll hook me up.

03:45:38.000 Awesome.

03:45:38.000 Alright, so, Tarifal, TarifalJuice, I'm not sure, but you can tell us.

03:45:43.000 Wait, hold on.

03:45:43.000 I just changed Nicholas's mind on something.

03:45:45.000 That's me, Nicholas.

03:45:46.000 Can I go flex on that?

03:45:47.000 I'm on board.

03:45:48.000 I'm converted.

03:45:49.000 Oh wait, hang on, hang on.

03:45:51.000 Maddy, what'd you say?

03:45:51.000 I'll do one or two more questions and then we'll just call it there.

03:45:56.000 What?

03:45:57.000 Do you want to do one or two more questions and then just call it there?

03:46:00.000 Yeah, we can.

03:46:00.000 Someone's sleeping.

03:46:04.000 Or, Violet, if you're willing to stay up longer, we can make you host.

03:46:09.000 Oh, if you guys are going to go, then everything will be gone.

03:46:12.000 Yeah, this is going to be me.

03:46:13.000 Nobody's here to see me.

03:46:14.000 Come on now.

03:46:15.000 Well, everybody's here to see Nick.

03:46:17.000 I'm here to see you, Violet.

03:46:21.000 As long as she's in the SWAT gear.

03:46:24.000 Yeah, where's the mask?

03:46:25.000 Where's the mask right now?

03:46:26.000 What are you doing?

03:46:27.000 Yeah, bring it out.

03:46:28.000 I don't wear a mask.

03:46:29.000 I wear more of like a helmet and a vest.

03:46:33.000 Bring out one of the wigs.

03:46:34.000 Bring out one of the wigs.

03:46:35.000 Oh, the wigs?

03:46:36.000 Yo, Violet.

03:46:36.000 Violet, Violet.

03:46:37.000 Can I say that one video that you made of like the beginning of Emma Lou's video and then like you came out and like said all that funny ass shit? 0.99

03:46:46.000 That was legitimately like the funniest TikTok I have ever seen in my life. 0.97

03:46:51.000 Wait, wait, so why does your camera shake like a tiny bit?

03:46:55.000 I can notice it's like wobbling.

03:46:57.000 It's like, I'm like, what is going on?

03:46:59.000 Is it not on a tripod?

03:47:00.000 It's like, it's like, it is, but like the way that I have it, it's like one of those long ones, right?

03:47:05.000 And

03:47:08.000 Every, I have to click that button every time and it makes the phone shake and I have to hold it to make it stay.

03:47:13.000 Okay.

03:47:13.000 Cause I noticed that and I was like, what?

03:47:15.000 Why is it shaking?

03:47:16.000 I try to stop that, but it's really hard.

03:47:19.000 Nick, who is this, this chief Trumpster grouper?

03:47:22.000 He keeps asking me to play Fortnite.

03:47:26.000 He's a friend of mine.

03:47:27.000 He's a, he's a reminder that Lance videos hasn't accepted my 1v1 on Fortnite.

03:47:33.000 I want to see that.

03:47:36.000 Jaden beat you in a 1v1, Lance.

03:47:38.000 Yeah, he did.

03:47:39.000 I just want to remind you that the Groipers are... Okay, but listen, I could probably beat you, so... I don't know, maybe, we'll see.

03:47:47.000 Hey, let's make that happen, actually.

03:47:48.000 Last time we played, we were pretty equal.

03:47:50.000 Political TikTok Fortnite tournament.

03:47:52.000 I'll commentate.

03:47:53.000 Lots of cursing, everything.

03:47:55.000 We'll see, Lance.

03:47:57.000 He's a leftist now.

03:47:58.000 No way to settle a dispute.

03:48:01.000 There's a pre-show.

03:48:02.000 Yes.

03:48:03.000 A pre-show with Nicolas Fuentes and McVideos debating.

03:48:08.000 A gaming pre-show.

03:48:09.000 Yeah.

03:48:09.000 I would totally be down to debate.

03:48:11.000 I'm not scared.

03:48:11.000 I'm legitimately not scared.

03:48:12.000 But here's the thing.

03:48:13.000 Really?

03:48:14.000 I really want to be a TPUSA ambassador and if they saw you on my YouTube channel, that would go out the window.

03:48:21.000 What if you were on my channel?

03:48:24.000 I'm sure they'd watch your channel too though.

03:48:27.000 It's opened a lot of doors for me.

03:48:29.000 Hopefully nobody sees this one then.

03:48:49.000 Listen, they would not be mad about this.

03:48:51.000 Benny Johnson would be not non-pleased.

03:48:54.000 If he, if he saw this one, good old Bernard Johnson.

03:49:03.000 Benny Johnson.

03:49:04.000 What are we going to do with Benny Johnson or Charlie Kirk for that matter?

03:49:10.000 All right.

03:49:11.000 Terrafall juice.

03:49:12.000 What's your question?

03:49:14.000 It's a fun way to pronounce it.

03:49:15.000 Um, I got a, I got a question, two short questions, one for each of the Knicks.

03:49:22.000 Um, my first one's for musty TikTok Nick.

03:49:25.000 Um, has being a Republican, how has that, you know, a conservative, how has that affected your, so how has that affected your game?

03:49:38.000 Have you seen his hair?

03:49:39.000 It has not affected his game whatsoever.

03:49:42.000 No, no, no.

03:49:43.000 But as a strategy, do you like play it down or do you use it as a means to find women with a reasonable body count? 0.83

03:49:53.000 No, I don't use this.

03:49:55.000 I don't use TikTok.

03:49:55.000 He's gonna ask Nick the same question.

03:49:57.000 I don't use TikTok to find women. 0.98

03:49:59.000 That's not my question for Nick.

03:50:01.000 I don't know.

03:50:02.000 No, I don't use TikTok to find women or anything.

03:50:06.000 Getting hit up by women has definitely become easier. 0.93

03:50:09.000 Nick, when you go to college at the clubs, just tell the girls you got 100,000 followers on TikTok.

03:50:16.000 He got 200,000, bud.

03:50:18.000 Like, I know you're in college, and I just did my application, and they literally, there was a literal slider on my application, it was like, this is the political left, this is the political right, just like, slide where you are.

03:50:31.000 And like- Why would they ask you that on a college thing?

03:50:36.000 Yeah, they're going to say, okay, you're a little bit too far to the right.

03:50:40.000 You're not allowed on our college.

03:50:41.000 But no, like to answer your question, I, I never started TikTok to find women or anything.

03:50:47.000 I mean, I definitely get a lot more like thirsty girls in my DMs now, but like, I mean, I don't.

03:50:53.000 I feel it's beneath you.

03:50:57.000 I mean, I really don't answer DMs.

03:50:58.000 Like, I used to be good about answering DMs, but now, like, since I've gotten bigger, I just, I literally, I can't answer all of them and stuff.

03:51:05.000 So, like, I only really answer, like, people.

03:51:07.000 I go, because my account's a creator account.

03:51:09.000 Like, I have that set up, like, in the Instagram setting.

03:51:11.000 So, I usually hit my, like, when I'm looking through my DMs, I hit top requests, which, like, puts the people with the most followers at the top.

03:51:19.000 So, yeah, I only really answer people that, like, have a big following or something.

03:51:23.000 Sometimes I get other, like, big TikTokers that DM me. 1.00

03:51:26.000 They don't have enough clout for Nick.

03:51:28.000 Well, no, I don't have time to answer everyone individually like I used to, but, yeah, I mean, I don't use TikTok as a tool to find women or anything like that, if that's what you're asking.

03:51:37.000 Oh, it's like, but your political life is still sort of isolated from your life in college?

03:51:43.000 Yeah, so, like, well, I'm not in college yet.

03:51:45.000 I'm a senior at the moment, but

03:51:47.000 Oh, that's fun.

03:51:48.000 But, um, like, I mean, at school, people, like, nobody at my school really treats me differently.

03:51:54.000 Like, people that are outside of public school, like, they kind of treat me a little differently.

03:51:57.000 Not, like, in a bad way.

03:51:58.000 It's just, like, now, because I have, like, I don't consider myself famous.

03:52:02.000 I think famous on TikTok is when you hit, like, a million.

03:52:04.000 That's when you can, like, actually say, like, you're TikTok famous.

03:52:07.000 And you're from Texas, right?

03:52:09.000 Yeah, Houston, Texas.

03:52:11.000 Right.

03:52:11.000 That's, no, I mean, I'm, you know, in the sort of Bronx area and

03:52:16.000 Just, like, complete opposite.

03:52:17.000 Like, you can't even be, like, the Overton window shifted left quite a bit.

03:52:23.000 No, like, I mean, there's only a couple people at my school that I talk politics with and it's more so of just a good civil discussion.

03:52:31.000 It's not like we're yelling at each other or bashing or like, you know, yelling at each other, stuff like that.

03:52:36.000 It's just, it's more calm discussion.

03:52:38.000 Like I don't, I don't talk politics a lot, like with my friends that I have in person, other than like a couple, other than like a select few.

03:52:44.000 But yeah, like, I don't know.

03:52:46.000 I mean, I don't, I'm really political on TikTok obviously, cause like that's my brand, but I don't, I don't really bring that into my personal life at all.

03:52:53.000 So yeah.

03:52:56.000 Some people forget that we're just like normal outside.

03:52:59.000 Yeah.

03:53:01.000 Yeah.

03:53:01.000 I don't know.

03:53:02.000 I don't know.

03:53:03.000 I don't know.

03:53:04.000 I don't know what it's like.

03:53:05.000 No one, no one recognizes me.

03:53:07.000 I haven't been recognized either, but still.

03:53:10.000 I've been, I've been recognized.

03:53:11.000 I've definitely been recognized by the Grippers at Trump Tower.

03:53:15.000 We recognize you at Trump Tower.

03:53:17.000 Yeah, it was kind of weird.

03:53:18.000 It was kind of fun though.

03:53:20.000 I'm assuming you guys have a backstory.

03:53:23.000 You guys keep on talking about the past.

03:53:25.000 Yeah, I was at Trump Hotel literally just walking around and his entire group was like

03:53:33.000 So Nick had him and his like, you know.

03:53:38.000 It was his army of Groypers. 1.00

03:53:39.000 Oh wow.

03:53:40.000 There was like 30 of you guys.

03:53:43.000 And I was just walking with my friend Oddy.

03:53:46.000 There were too many coming in.

03:53:48.000 And then Lady Naga confronted me. 0.56

03:53:51.000 Yeah, I was about to walk up to you and then Lady Naga started like... 1.00

03:53:56.000 Yeah, we didn't get a great exchange.

03:53:58.000 I just pleaded with you.

03:53:59.000 I said, you know, you're a Zoomer. 0.96

03:54:01.000 I see the good in you.

03:54:02.000 I felt like Luke Skywalker.

03:54:04.000 I did want to like talk.

03:54:05.000 I sensed the good in you.

03:54:06.000 It was hard to when everyone else was there.

03:54:08.000 It was like everyone else was like yelling.

03:54:10.000 There was this other girl that was like talking about Catholicism or something.

03:54:14.000 I don't know. 1.00

03:54:14.000 Yeah, that Asian girl kept jumping in, like, shut up, bitch! 1.00

03:54:18.000 We're trying to have a conversation, okay? 1.00

03:54:20.000 Gamers and Zoomers talking, take your Wuhan flu somewhere else. 0.81

03:54:31.000 We all said that no jokes are off limits.

03:54:38.000 I personally don't find a problem with calling it the Chinese virus. 1.00

03:54:41.000 It literally came from fucking China. 1.00

03:54:43.000 It comes from China and that's where it's gonna be. 1.00

03:54:47.000 When people say it's racist, Chinese isn't even a race.

03:54:51.000 Chinese is a nationality.

03:54:52.000 Nobody calls it the Asian virus. 0.71

03:54:55.000 They should.

03:55:00.000 Nick, I'm a big fan.

03:55:04.000 I hope you're doing alright.

03:55:12.000 How is working with Sam Hyde?

03:55:15.000 Anything surprising?

03:55:17.000 Does he have like a smell about him?

03:55:23.000 It was surreal, honestly, because I've been watching him forever.

03:55:27.000 You know, he's kind of red-pilled me in a big way.

03:55:30.000 So he's a giant.

03:55:31.000 He drives a giant truck.

03:55:33.000 We were driving around Rhode Island and he was just like gunning it down the highway, honking the horn, veering.

03:55:39.000 I thought we were gonna like get in a car accident.

03:55:41.000 He just like floored it.

03:55:43.000 So he's a maniac, but very nice guy.

03:55:46.000 You know, you see one guy in the videos kind of like over the top and domineering, but he was a very nice 0.67

03:55:52.000 Straight-up guy.

03:55:53.000 Cares about the craft.

03:55:54.000 Cares about the art.

03:55:56.000 So he's larger than life.

03:55:57.000 Living legend.

03:55:58.000 You know, it was very epic.

03:55:59.000 Very humbling.

03:56:00.000 Said some very nice things to me.

03:56:01.000 I was like... You know, a lot of people say nice things to me, but he's like a legend, you know?

03:56:06.000 He was like, dude, you're like cool.

03:56:09.000 And I'm like, bro, that means a lot to me.

03:56:12.000 So it was very cool.

03:56:13.000 Very epic.

03:56:13.000 Do you guys know who Sam Hyde is?

03:56:15.000 All the Zoomers here, I wonder. 1.00

03:56:17.000 I don't really know.

03:56:19.000 Aw, you gotta get on to Sam Hyde!

03:56:22.000 Is he a Groyper? 1.00

03:56:23.000 No, he's pre-Groyper. 0.91

03:56:26.000 He's a comedian.

03:56:27.000 He's been around for years.

03:56:29.000 Living legend.

03:56:33.000 They have all the Million Dollar Extreme for free on Adult Swim's website.

03:56:38.000 It's like 10 minutes of episode.

03:56:40.000 Good content.

03:56:41.000 Wait, so, Nicholas, I actually have a question for you.

03:56:44.000 Why do you think that the government should, like, keep marijuana?

03:56:48.000 Like, why are you against the legalization of marijuana?

03:56:50.000 Like, I'm just wondering.

03:56:52.000 Yeah, I hate drugs.

03:56:53.000 I think drugs are bad for people.

03:56:55.000 And I think that the government should ban them.

03:56:58.000 And I think we can.

03:56:59.000 A lot of people say, like, prohibition doesn't work.

03:57:02.000 Prohibition totally works.

03:57:04.000 It worked then.

03:57:05.000 It works now, and I think we should ban it, because marijuana, it kills brain cells, lowers your IQ, makes you less motivated.

03:57:13.000 You know, when you think about the health of a nation, I want a vigorous, strong, healthy nation.

03:57:17.000 We want our men in the country to be making good decisions.

03:57:21.000 We want them to be virtuous, and have integrity, and have reason on their side.

03:57:27.000 And if people are inebriated or high, they can't be that way.

03:57:30.000 And I think that more and more people are succumbing to self-medicating.

03:57:33.000 They're succumbing to self-medicating with drugs, pornography, sex, food, a variety of different things.

03:57:39.000 I think the more that we can keep that out of the hands of young people, and adults too, I think the better.

03:57:44.000 Marijuana and drugs are bad news.

03:57:46.000 Gateway drugs.

03:57:47.000 Impair reason.

03:57:48.000 Not good.

03:57:49.000 So it should be banned.

03:57:50.000 And we should get serious about it.

03:57:51.000 Build a wall. 1.00

03:57:52.000 Kill drug cartels. 1.00

03:57:53.000 The problem is we're not serious about it. 0.99

03:57:55.000 People say, like, the war on drugs has failed.

03:57:57.000 We're not even trying.

03:57:58.000 We haven't been trying.

03:57:59.000 How can you say we're trying if we don't have a secure border?

03:58:02.000 Where are the drugs coming from across the border?

03:58:04.000 Hello?

03:58:05.000 Build the wall. 0.97

03:58:06.000 Go after these people. 0.90

03:58:07.000 Get serious.

03:58:08.000 Start making arrests.

03:58:10.000 Drug dealers should have their lives terminated by the government.

03:58:14.000 And we could keep it out of people's hands.

03:58:16.000 Don't crush these states trying to legalize it.

03:58:18.000 It's terrible.

03:58:19.000 But one thing that I have to add to that is if you look at like what Portugal did like they used to have like a really huge opioid overdose problem in Portugal and they actually decriminalized it and they saw their overdoses go down by like a ton like a significant amount by like 85% I think and the reason for that was because people were they were scared before that because they were scared if like they turn themselves into like the hospital or whatever to get treatment that they would be sent to jail and so like the way I look at it is if you legalize if you

03:58:47.000 I'm not necessarily for the legalization of hard drugs, but like stuff like that.

03:58:52.000 Like, I mean, if you look at like what Portugal did with that, I mean, it, it definitely, it helped their issue there.

03:58:57.000 There was less people overdosing because they went to go get help and stuff like that.

03:59:01.000 The main, the main issue that I see with, um, like completely legalizing all hard drugs here is like those people that were on that.

03:59:08.000 We're good to go!

03:59:28.000 I disagree with both of those things. 0.99

03:59:29.000 Dude, you're freaking DROIPERS. 1.00

03:59:31.000 Oh my gosh, man. 0.99

03:59:33.000 All my social medias have 59 requests.

03:59:38.000 DROIPER GANG! 0.81

03:59:40.000 And they're even worse in real life.

03:59:43.000 Silent majority.

03:59:44.000 We're not so silent anymore.

03:59:47.000 Um, but yeah, I think marijuana has just like no benefits.

03:59:51.000 And, and I think it is addictive.

03:59:52.000 I think it is a gateway drug.

03:59:53.000 I hung out with a lot of like stoner.

03:59:55.000 I've never done drugs, by the way, but I hang out with a lot of stoners.

03:59:59.000 Yeah, like, yeah, like I don't, I don't condone the use of marijuana.

04:00:04.000 Like I would never smoke pot myself, but like, I mean, I don't see it as the huge threat.

04:00:09.000 Like I don't like you do.

04:00:10.000 And it's literally been proven that it's not a gateway drug.

04:00:13.000 I want to speed run some of these questions with you.

04:00:16.000 What's your opinion on the 19th amendment?

04:00:17.000 Repeal!

04:00:17.000 Gotta go away!

04:00:42.000 Hang on, I'm going through.

04:00:42.000 If Ben Shapiro were to run for president, would you vote for him?

04:00:46.000 No!

04:00:47.000 No way! 0.90

04:00:48.000 Christian, not Jewish. 0.98

04:00:49.000 Sorry, but it's a big job.

04:00:52.000 Hey guys, I'm gonna go to sleep.

04:00:53.000 I'm just putting that out there.

04:00:54.000 Later, guys.

04:00:55.000 Guys, look, I turned myself into a pickle.

04:00:58.000 I turned myself into a pickle, guys.

04:01:01.000 Haha, Pickle Lance.

04:01:03.000 It's not me!

04:01:05.000 That wasn't me!

04:01:09.000 Alright, can I ask a question?

04:01:14.000 Hey Nick, what do you think we should do about oil prices right now?

04:01:19.000 Because they're plummeting because of the whole Iran-Syria thing. 1.00

04:01:27.000 What do you think?

04:01:28.000 It's a great question.

04:01:29.000 And I'm very interested in it because I'm invested.

04:01:32.000 Full disclosure, I'm invested in energy.

04:01:34.000 But, um, well, the reason... What's that?

04:01:39.000 I'm betting against it.

04:01:41.000 You're betting against oil?

04:01:43.000 Temporarily.

04:01:43.000 I have a longer run option.

04:01:45.000 Gotcha.

04:01:46.000 Okay.

04:01:47.000 Um, yeah, I think that, well, I mean, what else really can you do?

04:01:51.000 I mean, obviously the reason that Russia 1.00

04:01:54.000 So what's your view on tariffing foreign oil?

04:02:17.000 Just waiting for gas to become a dollar.

04:02:47.000 I was waiting for gas to be through.

04:02:49.000 Florida's at $1.60.

04:02:51.000 I live in California, it's still at like $4. 1.00

04:02:54.000 See at $1.60, fuck California, Florida. 1.00

04:02:57.000 I'm just waiting for over here to take the hit. 0.99

04:03:01.000 You know, like my people, they were literally like, oh, there's $60 of every, 60 cents of every dollar.

04:03:06.000 We have no idea where it's going.

04:03:07.000 I'm like, what?

04:03:09.000 I would drink my gas.

04:03:12.000 If it's just a dollar.

04:03:14.000 I wouldn't do that.

04:03:15.000 I don't know if that's a good idea.

04:03:16.000 It probably tastes pretty good, to be honest.

04:03:18.000 Oh, hey guys, look at that.

04:03:19.000 We hit 100 DM requests from Groypers. 0.89

04:03:22.000 Let's put a lime in the gas. 0.98

04:03:24.000 It'll taste a whole lot better.

04:03:27.000 Sorry, I've seen this person here with this little thing.

04:03:29.000 Unmute me, please.

04:03:30.000 I want to see what they're going to say.

04:03:32.000 So two seconds, guys.

04:03:34.000 Pedro.

04:03:35.000 OK, thank you.

04:03:37.000 So I don't know if there's any Democrats in here, but so Lance and Nick, you guys talk to Cuddleby, right?

04:03:45.000 To who?

04:03:46.000 V-U-D-W-Y, that kid?

04:03:49.000 Yeah.

04:03:50.000 Yeah, he's kind of annoying.

04:03:51.000 To who?

04:03:52.000 How do we?

04:03:53.000 His name is Larry.

04:03:54.000 He's very annoying.

04:03:55.000 I don't think I've talked to him.

04:03:57.000 I don't think I've talked to him.

04:03:59.000 Yeah, I've talked to him.

04:04:00.000 He's like, he's very annoying.

04:04:01.000 What's up?

04:04:02.000 So I have to do, um, like this sort of Google Doc on affirmative action.

04:04:06.000 So I was wondering, like, what do you guys think on that?

04:04:09.000 Affirmative action is kind of racist.

04:04:11.000 It's literally racist.

04:04:12.000 I mean, like it's, it's, it's literally creating racial quotas.

04:04:17.000 Like it's, I mean, it's racist.

04:04:19.000 There's, I mean, it's discrimination.

04:04:24.000 It's discrimination based on race.

04:04:25.000 I mean, it's racist by definition.

04:04:27.000 Why do you have to do a whole Google doc on it?

04:04:28.000 Just like research it for five seconds and you'll figure out it's racist.

04:04:31.000 No, but, but, oh, I know.

04:04:33.000 Yeah.

04:04:33.000 But he wants me to like do like affirmative action.

04:04:36.000 Is he like your mom or something?

04:04:37.000 Why do you have to do this?

04:04:40.000 Because, like, I'm, like, very interested in politics, so I ask him to give me a topic and I research on it.

04:04:47.000 Okay.

04:04:49.000 I respect the research.

04:04:51.000 Oh, thanks for that.

04:04:52.000 Alright, uh, Refounding Father, what's up?

04:04:57.000 Hey, can you hear me alright?

04:04:58.000 Yes, we can.

04:04:59.000 Oh, alright.

04:05:00.000 First of all, I just want to say, Nick Fuentes, big fan of yours.

04:05:03.000 You kind of inspired me to start advocating America First.

04:05:08.000 Ace, good to see you.

04:05:10.000 Yeah.

04:05:11.000 So, I guess my question is for the TikTok kind of mainstream Republicans.

04:05:16.000 Has your guys' opinion on Nick changed since talking to him?

04:05:19.000 Because you guys probably had a

04:05:21.000 Of course, the main clips that pull up on my YouTube feed are probably the ones where Nick Fuentes gets roasted by Ben Shapiro.

04:05:36.000 Uh, so I mean, you know, yes, I had a, definitely a different outlook of Nick going into this and yeah, he's, he's actually a human being, so.

04:05:45.000 Hey, nice guy Nick!

04:05:46.000 That's exactly why we do these things.

04:05:48.000 Like we bring, when we do our lives like this on our Zooms, we bring up everyone that we can, like 100%, like left, right, middle, circle.

04:05:58.000 We had freaking communists in last night, so we're, we just try to give everybody a voice and we actually have just like regular conversations.

04:06:07.000 Well you guys should be proud because you guys are braver than Ben Shapiro who's like the big conservative because he won't even, he goes from not acknowledging Nick to doing a 45 minute speech on himself.

04:06:19.000 I respect it.

04:06:21.000 True, very respectable.

04:06:24.000 Wait Nick, why do you hate Ben Shapiro so much?

04:06:28.000 Is it because he's a Jew? 0.98

04:06:30.000 No!

04:06:31.000 No!

04:06:31.000 Dude, some of my best friends are in the news, okay?

04:06:36.000 I love Jews.

04:06:37.000 I love Jews, okay?

04:06:39.000 Do you believe me?

04:06:40.000 That was a base question.

04:06:41.000 Did I just hear somebody say Hitler did nothing wrong? 1.00

04:06:43.000 What?

04:06:45.000 I would never say that, no.

04:06:47.000 He definitely did something wrong, so... Yeah, he invaded Russia in the winter. 0.92

04:06:50.000 Killing 6 million Jews isn't okay.

04:06:52.000 The only thing he did wrong was lose. 1.00

04:06:55.000 What the hell?

04:06:57.000 Gonna get so bad. 0.97

04:06:58.000 It's a joke!

04:07:00.000 Nobody screenshot that!

04:07:01.000 You're cancelled!

04:07:03.000 You're cancelled! 0.99

04:07:04.000 Racist! 0.99

04:07:05.000 I've been cancelled low-key countless times and they still haven't stuck yet, so... 0.94

04:07:10.000 Oh yeah, the Emma Lou stuff.

04:07:12.000 Dude, there was more comments on that video than likes.

04:07:15.000 Oh my god.

04:07:16.000 No, I've been cancelled before that.

04:07:18.000 Like, my little transgender joke where I says, the little meme where it's like, I'm just like you, you're just like me meme. 0.72

04:07:28.000 I put transgender and then man.

04:07:32.000 And then I put them together, you know how you put them together?

04:07:34.000 And then I came out with the wig on both sides.

04:07:36.000 So it's like, but I got canceled for that one.

04:07:40.000 Dude, somebody tried to cancel me because I said that we shouldn't let kids transition. 0.98

04:07:47.000 I said we shouldn't let kids transition and they tried to cancel me over that.

04:07:51.000 I still stick by that.

04:07:53.000 Don't transition kids. 1.00

04:07:55.000 People that think that you should be allowed, that it should be promoted or accepted by our society or even allowed by the law.

04:08:03.000 Yeah, I just find it funny how they're gonna be like, oh, they can make their own decisions, but then when they do something, you can't make your own decisions?

04:08:09.000 You know?

04:08:10.000 Like, it's like...

04:08:31.000 All right, let's go to Josiah Blanco, or Bianco, sorry.

04:08:37.000 Josiah, what's up?

04:08:39.000 Hey, I just had, can you guys hear me?

04:08:42.000 Yeah, we can hear you.

04:08:44.000 Okay, so I just had a question for Nicholas, because I'm a Christian myself, and I heard you saying that

04:08:53.000 Like, you don't support gay prides because you say that being gay is a sin, but it's a scientific fact that being gay is not a choice.

04:09:05.000 It's biology. 0.81

04:09:08.000 It's not something that people choose, like how people choose to sin, how people choose to murder.

04:09:14.000 It's not like that.

04:09:15.000 They don't choose to be gay.

04:09:17.000 They're born that way.

04:09:18.000 So how can you say that it's a sin if you're born that way and you don't even have a choice in the matter?

04:09:26.000 Well, I would disagree, and I don't believe it's been scientifically established that it's genetic, that there is a gay gene or that homosexuality is genetic.

04:09:35.000 I think that, you know, maybe there's a genetic factor.

04:09:38.000 I think it's largely environmental.

04:09:40.000 But in any case, we can say that same-sex attracted persons probably do not choose to be same-sex attracted, which I would concede. 0.51

04:09:49.000 But I would say that to act on those attractions is a choice.

04:09:52.000 You know, a person might be predisposed to being an alcoholic.

04:09:56.000 You know, I had a lot of family members going generations back that were addicted to drugs or that had problems with alcohol.

04:10:03.000 And so you could say that I might have a predisposition to being an alcoholic or something like that.

04:10:10.000 So for me to be, you know, having that predisposition, that in itself is not a sin.

04:10:15.000 But if I were to become a drunkard, being a drunkard is a sin.

04:10:18.000 In the same way that, you know, maybe somebody's predisposed to be an adulterer.

04:10:23.000 You know, maybe somebody has a higher libido.

04:10:25.000 I don't know how the genetics work on that.

04:10:26.000 But you might have the desire to have sex with somebody outside of marriage, but that does not mean that acting on that desire is not a sin.

04:10:34.000 So, I mean, it's a tough thing, and I'm sure it's a tough thing for a lot of people who feel that way and are trying to live right.

04:10:41.000 And you know, nobody's saying like, oh, it's easy, you know, just, uh, Hey, stop being same sex attracted or something.

04:10:47.000 But it's a sin. 0.79

04:10:49.000 If you don't, if you don't do that, if you sin, you go to hell. 0.88

04:10:52.000 So we are not doing anybody any favors by telling people, um, you know, Hey, do this and then go to hell forever.

04:10:58.000 Like that's, that's not, that's not cool.

04:11:01.000 You just said, you just said, if you people that sin go to hell, everybody sins.

04:11:06.000 Well, unrepentant sinners is what I mean.

04:11:09.000 Good call.

04:11:09.000 Okay, I got you.

04:11:10.000 Good clarification.

04:11:11.000 Yeah.

04:11:11.000 So if you're like, oh, I'm just going to have the time out.

04:11:13.000 No, you got to repent.

04:11:14.000 You got to try to be without sin.

04:11:16.000 Nobody is, but you got to try.

04:11:18.000 You can't speak for yourself.

04:11:19.000 I have never sinned a day in my life.

04:11:22.000 You must be Jesus.

04:11:23.000 The only sin I know is Johnny's son. 0.98

04:11:25.000 Oh, I want to meet that crazy Jesus dude at the White House and just like interview him. 0.99

04:11:31.000 We'll go at TSAS. 0.86

04:11:32.000 It'll be so fun.

04:11:34.000 Wait, Nick, are you coming to TSAS?

04:11:38.000 Lance was telling me, well, I heard people speculated that I was going to TSAS.

04:11:43.000 I have no plans to go to TSAS.

04:11:45.000 I didn't even know what that was.

04:11:47.000 Is that like a summer turning point thing?

04:11:49.000 Is that that thing in June?

04:11:51.000 I was talking about it earlier.

04:11:52.000 I had no plans to go there.

04:11:53.000 Maybe I'll go.

04:11:54.000 I have no plans, but who knows?

04:11:56.000 Maybe I'll show up.

04:11:57.000 You keep asking me.

04:11:58.000 It's like you're inviting me.

04:12:00.000 Maybe I will.

04:12:00.000 No, I've never asked you.

04:12:01.000 I just wanted to know if you were, because I know you've gone to some of their deals in the past.

04:12:06.000 I went to SAS, but we had our own thing.

04:12:08.000 Wait, so they haven't banned you yet?

04:12:10.000 Well, I went to West Palm Beach.

04:12:14.000 I got kicked out of the conference in five minutes.

04:12:16.000 I walked in, and people started gathering around me, and they were like, you're causing a disturbance, you have to get out.

04:12:22.000 And I came back, and then they had the police issue me a no-trespass warning. 0.99

04:12:27.000 The security guard was such an asshole, he came up to me and 0.99

04:12:31.000 So I came in the first day, and this turning point security guard kicked me out. 1.00

04:12:35.000 I came back the next day, and he called the police.

04:12:38.000 And the police came, and they were like, can you come over here?

04:12:41.000 And the security guard came over, and a whole crowd gathered around the police and started chanting, America first!

04:12:47.000 America first!

04:12:48.000 Let him go! 1.00

04:12:49.000 Whatever! 0.98

04:12:49.000 And I looked at this turning point security guard, this doofus, 0.98

04:12:53.000 They're not going to arrest me.

04:12:54.000 It's perfectly legal.

04:12:55.000 And I said, like, hey, man, thanks a lot.

04:12:57.000 Really appreciate what you're doing for the cause. 0.97

04:12:59.000 This is really great, you know, because he was such a small jerk about kicking me out. 0.75

04:13:03.000 These people are all in favor of free markets and I'll debate anybody, anytime, anywhere. 0.96

04:13:08.000 And they removed me from the Politicon debate.

04:13:11.000 They no trespass me at the SAS.

04:13:13.000 They, you know, on and on. 0.99

04:13:14.000 So, bunch of bullshit, but that's okay. 1.00

04:13:17.000 Groipers are rising. 1.00

04:13:19.000 We have God on our side.

04:13:21.000 We have the truth on our side.

04:13:23.000 All these, you know, elite types, all these owl type people in Turning Point, they cannot stop us. 1.00

04:13:30.000 They can't stop what's been started.

04:13:32.000 So,

04:13:33.000 I have no worries, but maybe I'll go to TSAS.

04:13:35.000 I haven't, uh, I don't have any plans, but maybe I'd show up and do some hijinks.

04:13:40.000 Alright, let's go to Ben Paulin.

04:13:41.000 Ben, what's up?

04:13:43.000 Um, hey, what's up guys?

04:13:45.000 First of all, something that I noticed, I feel like we all came in with a really bad perception of Nick.

04:13:49.000 Like, you're a lot of nicer guy.

04:13:52.000 I feel like we all perceived you to be.

04:13:54.000 That was just, uh, something first.

04:13:56.000 Um, and also, I'm a bit tired, but I wanted to ask you about this, how you feel about this.

04:14:01.000 So in 21 states,

04:14:03.000 State governments allow adoption agencies to make the choice to not adopt to gay couples solely for the fact that they are gay.

04:14:12.000 How do you feel about that?

04:14:13.000 Do you think maybe we should make that federal law or something, or how do you feel about that? 0.89

04:14:18.000 Yeah, I think we should ban gay adoption. 1.00

04:14:20.000 I think it is, you know, to put people in households like that I think is wrong, so I've never been in favor of that.

04:14:27.000 But do you think that it's better for them to grow up in like an orphanage or a foster home where they could be abused?

04:14:33.000 I think it'd be more likely for them to get abused in a gay household than in an orphanage, if you want to know the truth. 0.99

04:14:39.000 And I think the other abuse is that, at least in an orphanage, they're not learning that sin is okay.

04:14:44.000 You grow up in a gay household, and I mean, any gay partnership is not going to be one that's Christian, or ordered towards God, or anything like that. 0.80

04:14:52.000 And it's like, sure, not to minimize it, but if you go into a foster home, it's going to be rough, but you're not going to be on that path to hell, like if you get raised by gay people and you think, 0.88

04:15:02.000 Oh, that's okay. 0.74

04:15:02.000 Everything's a free-for-all. 0.74

04:15:04.000 So then, do you think we should do, um... I'm so tired.

04:15:08.000 I can't think of the term.

04:15:09.000 What is it called when you, like, uh, do, uh, like, a medically, uh, procedure for inserting?

04:15:15.000 Is that called, like, an I.B.

04:15:16.000 or something?

04:15:17.000 Do you guys know what I'm talking about?

04:15:18.000 Oh, like, in vitro fertilization?

04:15:20.000 Yeah, and that.

04:15:21.000 Do you think we should let gays do that, then? 1.00

04:15:23.000 Or, like, uh, like a gay woman? 0.99

04:15:24.000 No, so you don't think that gays have the right to have children at all?

04:15:29.000 Um, well, I don't know.

04:15:31.000 I haven't thought about that one too much.

04:15:32.000 I'd probably be against it.

04:15:33.000 Full disclosure, I was an in vitro fertilization baby, but not by a gay couple because my parents had fertility problems.

04:15:40.000 Really?

04:15:41.000 You were an in vitro baby, Lance?

04:15:42.000 Yeah.

04:15:43.000 My mom- Lance, we have so much- Lance, we're a forced dyad. 0.91

04:15:48.000 We're a forced dyad. 0.78

04:15:49.000 Um, yeah, my mom was like tricked in like getting abortions back in like the seventies when it was like brand new. 1.00

04:15:57.000 So, abortion literally screwed up with her, like, fallopian tubes, and she couldn't get, like, pregnant. 0.92

04:16:02.000 So she, like, tried with, like, $50,000.

04:16:03.000 It costs, like, $30,000 just to get one of those.

04:16:05.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

04:16:06.000 It's a lot.

04:16:07.000 But it's really weird, because... Lance is a twin.

04:16:09.000 Lance is a twin with the girl sister, so am I. Lance is an in vitro baby, so am I. Maybe we're long-lost brothers.

04:16:16.000 Lance, Lance, let me just point it out, Lance.

04:16:18.000 Your sister's hot. 1.00

04:16:21.000 So listen, my mom actually has a picture of me as an embryo.

04:16:31.000 I'm thinking about, like, using that in an abortion debate. 0.99

04:16:34.000 Is it okay to kill me there? 0.98

04:16:35.000 No, I don't think so. 0.99

04:16:38.000 Yeah, that's cool.

04:16:39.000 I was just wondering, because, like, I'm conservative as well, but I feel like, to some, right, you know, they're still humans, they should still have the right to raise a child.

04:16:46.000 But, like, I understand what point you're coming from, the religious, because I'm Christian as well, so I understand what you're saying there, as, you know, I'd like kids to be raised in Christian households with Christian morals as well.

04:16:57.000 But, yeah, I understand what you mean there.

04:17:00.000 Well, and a baby has a right to a father and a mother.

04:17:02.000 So I feel like, you know, it's different if like a married couple does it versus like a gay couple. 0.92

04:17:07.000 Cause it's like, you've deprived that child of their, I mean, they may obviously have a biological mother, but they won't be raised by it.

04:17:13.000 So I think it's cruel.

04:17:16.000 Yeah.

04:17:16.000 I see what you mean.

04:17:18.000 Just like, I don't know.

04:17:20.000 I feel like they deserve the right back.

04:17:22.000 I understand your point, your side of it.

04:17:25.000 That's not necessarily true.

04:17:45.000 Yeah, I haven't looked at the research on that.

04:17:46.000 It's been scientifically proven to show that, like, if a kid grows up in a household with a father and a mother... But just before I say this, I think that gay couples should be able to drop it. 1.00

04:17:55.000 I think it's better to grow up in that household than an orphanage.

04:17:58.000 But it's been scientifically proven that if you grow up in a two-parent household with a father and a mother, you're at a significantly... Oh my gosh.

04:18:05.000 You're at a significantly higher chance to commit crime and be in prison for it.

04:18:09.000 Like, that's a scientific fact.

04:18:11.000 Yeah, I agree with that too, but then how do you feel about like, you know, in some gay couples, there's like, let's say like for men, there's the more feminine man and the more masculine man.

04:18:18.000 Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

04:18:21.000 That's not a lie.

04:18:22.000 I don't know.

04:18:23.000 I don't know how that works really.

04:18:26.000 Mom, parenthesis male.

04:18:29.000 Hey mom, parenthesis male. 0.69

04:18:33.000 Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

04:18:34.000 Just because I feel like, how I personally feel about it, and I get called like misogynistic for this, but I feel like in relationships there should be the dad as the disciplinarian figure and the mother as the caretaker.

04:18:48.000 I agree.

04:18:48.000 Women know their role.

04:18:51.000 Yeah, that just sounds a little too far.

04:18:53.000 That sounds a little too far.

04:18:59.000 Oh my, that's... I had to whip up dinner, honey.

04:19:02.000 Alright.

04:19:03.000 No, I'm kidding.

04:19:04.000 No, I don't believe it.

04:19:05.000 Thank you.

04:19:05.000 Thank you for the questions and stuff, Ben.

04:19:08.000 Thank you.

04:19:08.000 Yeah, good night, guys.

04:19:10.000 Yo, Lance.

04:19:11.000 This one dude named Sam Owens just texted me on Instagram.

04:19:14.000 Ignore him.

04:19:15.000 He's literally... He's so annoying.

04:19:17.000 I'll be playing Call of Duty and he... Okay, way back, you know when Jaden and I were, like, fighting?

04:19:24.000 Yeah.

04:19:25.000 Like, Nick.

04:19:26.000 What?

04:19:27.000 Remember when Jaden and I were in the Call of Duty game?

04:19:30.000 Yeah.

04:19:31.000 That kid kept joining?

04:19:32.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

04:19:33.000 That's the same guy. 0.98

04:19:34.000 He's the most annoying kid in the freakin' world. 0.92

04:19:37.000 So Lance and Nicholas Ventura's playing Call of Duty? 0.79

04:19:38.000 No, it was, um... Well, we did once.

04:19:47.000 Yeah, and then you went around and you were like, he's terrible at COD!

04:19:50.000 Like, I was doing better than you!

04:19:52.000 I was doing great! 0.56

04:19:52.000 I got more kills than you! 0.56

04:19:54.000 I got literally more kills than you.

04:19:56.000 That's not true.

04:19:57.000 I won more rounds than you did.

04:19:59.000 I say we have a deathmatch.

04:20:02.000 If my real life doesn't play Warzone with me, I'm gonna be upset.

04:20:08.000 Don't get me in this.

04:20:09.000 I'm gonna use aimbot on all y'all.

04:20:11.000 I don't even care.

04:20:12.000 That's cheating.

04:20:13.000 I don't care.

04:20:15.000 Why can't I not play Warzone?

04:20:22.000 You can.

04:20:22.000 What do you mean?

04:20:24.000 Why can't I play Warzone with Lance and Nick?

04:20:27.000 Why am I not invited?

04:20:29.000 That's what I was saying earlier!

04:20:31.000 Lance, why didn't you invite him?

04:20:33.000 I'm sorry, dude.

04:20:35.000 Like, Lance, you have me, like, we talk every day almost, guy.

04:20:38.000 This doesn't play Warzone with me.

04:20:40.000 Don't get me in this.

04:20:43.000 It's probably the most based background in the history of the world.

04:20:46.000 Bam.

04:20:48.000 Nice. 1.00

04:20:49.000 What the fuck? 1.00

04:20:50.000 Don't let him tell Michael. 1.00

04:20:53.000 They kind of have, they have a crush on each other.

04:20:55.000 Based?

04:20:55.000 Okay.

04:20:56.000 Legit moment?

04:20:59.000 Yeah, Michelle Obama, trans. 0.97

04:21:00.000 Any of you guys believe that?

04:21:02.000 Yes.

04:21:04.000 I'm a believer.

04:21:05.000 I feel like he called her Michael like 10 times, so.

04:21:08.000 But I've said that a million times, it's so funny.

04:21:11.000 Alright, um, let's see.

04:21:13.000 Michael Obama?

04:21:14.000 I heard Obama in a speech called her Michael.

04:21:17.000 Dude.

04:21:20.000 Obama literally called her Michael. 0.76

04:21:23.000 Crotch picture? 0.90

04:21:24.000 Anybody see that one?

04:21:25.000 I don't know.

04:21:26.000 Looks like she's packing.

04:21:27.000 Packing a little heat down there.

04:21:30.000 Hold on a second.

04:21:31.000 Hey, be careful with that one, because that's how that one lady died, talking about that. 1.00

04:21:35.000 Wait, wait, Nick, where do you think it was?

04:21:38.000 Where do you think Obama was born, Nick?

04:21:41.000 He was not born in America, dude.

04:21:43.000 He wasn't.

04:21:44.000 Do you think he was?

04:21:46.000 I think, I mean, he produced the birth certificate.

04:21:48.000 Wait, who was streaming the Zoom?

04:21:50.000 Someone apparently was streaming the Zoom and there was like 4,000 people watching.

04:21:53.000 Huh.

04:21:55.000 On what?

04:21:56.000 Oh yeah, that's a...

04:21:58.000 I don't know.

04:21:59.000 Who streamed it?

04:21:59.000 Yeah, I don't know.

04:22:00.000 Was it Jaden?

04:22:01.000 It could have been Jaden.

04:22:03.000 He does a lot of that.

04:22:04.000 I'm not sure.

04:22:04.000 That would explain my Twitter.

04:22:07.000 Yeah, that would explain why my DMs were full of croakers.

04:22:11.000 It's sadly that I got absolutely no DMs out of this.

04:22:14.000 It's spotlight me.

04:22:16.000 Jaden was streaming, is what someone said. 1.00

04:22:18.000 Oh, what the fuck, bro? 1.00

04:22:20.000 Oh, was he? 1.00

04:22:23.000 On what?

04:22:24.000 Someone said Jaden.

04:22:24.000 Hang on.

04:22:25.000 Tell me where it is.

04:22:26.000 We're still on there.

04:22:27.000 We're still streaming.

04:22:29.000 Is it on DLive?

04:22:31.000 Yeah.

04:22:32.000 It's on DLive?

04:22:33.000 He's on DLive streaming it.

04:22:34.000 No way.

04:22:35.000 VicenteBurn.

04:22:36.000 Here, I'm going to change my username for you.

04:22:38.000 Make sure you guys follow me at truebylissing on Instagram.

04:22:41.000 DLive!

04:22:42.000 He's literally streaming this right now.

04:22:44.000 Look.

04:22:44.000 There you go, guys.

04:22:45.000 VicenteBurn.

04:22:46.000 See that?

04:22:47.000 VicenteBurn.

04:22:48.000 I spelled it out for you.

04:22:49.000 Go ahead.

04:22:49.000 Follow me.

04:22:51.000 I really hope they didn't see what I just put up on the screen.

04:22:55.000 How do you feel about oil plummeting 20%?

04:23:16.000 Oh, did it?

04:23:17.000 Did that happen?

04:23:17.000 Right now.

04:23:18.000 Right now.

04:23:18.000 That's the headline.

04:23:19.000 Who is Jaden McNeil?

04:23:20.000 Why is he a verified partner?

04:23:23.000 Jaden McNeil is a... They're trying to get him in.

04:23:26.000 No, he's a classic Anakin story.

04:23:29.000 He fell to the dark side.

04:23:30.000 He fell to the light side.

04:23:32.000 He fell to the dark side, dude.

04:23:33.000 He fell to the dark side.

04:23:34.000 You will too.

04:23:35.000 I sense the good in you, Lance.

04:23:36.000 No, dude.

04:23:38.000 You keep saying that.

04:23:39.000 How many people have been watching us for just days?

04:23:41.000 He's been streaming this whole time, dude.

04:23:43.000 It's gonna be like in Star Wars, Charlie Kirk is gonna be bashing me over and over and Lance will be watching behind and slow and Lance, you know, Charlie Kirk smashing me with a sledgehammer or something and Lance will watch and he'll pick Charlie Kirk up over and over.

04:23:57.000 See, you're admitting that you're on the dark side because you're Palpatine.

04:24:00.000 No, I'm Luke Skywalker!

04:24:02.000 You're Palpatine.

04:24:05.000 I'm Luke Skywalker.

04:24:07.000 You're Palpatine.

04:24:08.000 No, no, no.

04:24:09.000 You're Palpatine lying on the ground.

04:24:11.000 Help me!

04:24:12.000 Come to the dark side!

04:24:15.000 I see the light!

04:24:16.000 Like, what?

04:24:16.000 You're literally Palpatine.

04:24:18.000 Jedi, try to take over! 1.00

04:24:19.000 It's kind of creepy.

04:24:21.000 It's like, whoa!

04:24:23.000 Well, the Empire is the good guys.

04:24:25.000 I mean, Republic, Cringe, Empire, Base.

04:24:29.000 Galactic Order versus Rebels and Resistance and Chaos.

04:24:33.000 Sign me up for the fire.

04:24:36.000 I see you flexing, Nick.

04:24:38.000 Alright, NetGamerNat, go ahead.

04:24:42.000 Am I muted here?

04:24:44.000 Can you guys hear me?

04:24:45.000 Yeah.

04:24:46.000 Hey! 0.99

04:24:46.000 Guys, people on Jaden's stream, I'm not the host. 0.99

04:24:50.000 I can't let Jaden in.

04:24:53.000 Yeah, I don't know how to let Jaden in in the first place.

04:24:57.000 There's plenty of room.

04:24:58.000 He's banned.

04:24:59.000 He's IP banned.

04:25:00.000 Is he?

04:25:03.000 That's what he told me, yeah.

04:25:06.000 I guess someone, someone removed him.

04:25:07.000 I don't know what happened, but... I think, I think he may have gotten removed whenever other, like, TikTokers were trying to join and we were trying to... Alright, alright, can I ask my question here? 0.97

04:25:16.000 Can I speak on, uh... No, we won't, we won't.

04:25:20.000 Let's just mute him real quick.

04:25:23.000 Somebody actually muted him!

04:25:26.000 I'm an essential worker here.

04:25:28.000 You guys kept me up two hours.

04:25:31.000 Go ahead, go ahead.

04:25:34.000 Yes, so Lance, the question is when are you going to debate Nick?

04:25:37.000 Is the real question.

04:25:38.000 When are you going to debate Nick?

04:25:40.000 What do you mean, debate him?

04:25:42.000 We all know, Lance.

04:25:43.000 We know.

04:25:44.000 Come home, Lance.

04:25:45.000 You're a Zoomer.

04:25:45.000 You have Zoomer energy.

04:25:47.000 You're so weird about that.

04:25:48.000 I like my thing with Turning Point a little bit.

04:25:50.000 Lance, Lance, come home to the Zoomers. 0.86

04:25:52.000 His midichlorian count is high.

04:25:54.000 I like Turning Point a lot better, man.

04:25:56.000 You're doing bad work, man.

04:25:58.000 It's just not good.

04:25:59.000 Bad work?

04:26:00.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

04:26:01.000 Come on, Lance.

04:26:02.000 Just debate Nick.

04:26:02.000 Lance looks at my following and he says, how can I achieve such a power?

04:26:07.000 How can I learn such a power?

04:26:08.000 And I'm like, not from a Jedi.

04:26:12.000 Not from Turning Point USA.

04:26:13.000 I have more followers than you, Nick.

04:26:15.000 You know the ways of the Force?

04:26:19.000 One must study all its aspects, not just the narrow-minded, dogmatic view of the Jedi.

04:26:25.000 Oh, yeah.

04:26:26.000 He's admitting you're on the bad stuff.

04:26:30.000 Guys, guys, guys!

04:26:30.000 I beg you!

04:26:31.000 I found Jayden.

04:26:32.000 I found Jayden.

04:26:33.000 Jayden is unmuted. 0.96

04:26:34.000 Somebody kick this Ralph guy. 0.97

04:26:35.000 Like, that's actually, like, don't do that.

04:26:38.000 What?

04:26:38.000 Where's Ralph?

04:26:39.000 Look at his background.

04:26:41.000 Is that the guy with the Christ Church shooting behind him?

04:26:44.000 No, no.

04:26:45.000 Ralph is the guy with the literal Nazi symbol behind him. 0.82

04:26:47.000 So, can you, like, kick him?

04:26:48.000 What's the Nazi symbol? 0.52

04:26:50.000 Yes, don't.

04:26:51.000 Why would you want that on the stream?

04:26:53.000 I could just stop his video.

04:26:54.000 I could just stop his video.

04:26:56.000 Stop his video.

04:26:56.000 I just don't like seeing that.

04:26:58.000 It's disgusting.

04:26:58.000 People actually support that.

04:27:00.000 Okay, RiceRealist is unmuted.

04:27:02.000 We can hear Juden.

04:27:03.000 I mean, not Juden, Jaden.

04:27:04.000 Juden?

04:27:05.000 Yikes! 1.00

04:27:05.000 Is Jaden on here? 1.00

04:27:19.000 That's not Jaden, where's Jaden?

04:27:26.000 Where are you streaming it on?

04:27:31.000 Why is everybody streaming at DLive?

04:27:34.000 Because DLive is epic and based.

04:27:35.000 That's where all the DROIPERS are! 1.00

04:27:37.000 DROIPER GANG! 0.81

04:27:42.000 Are you, like, do you play games?

04:27:44.000 Do you have that voice?

04:27:45.000 I think I know that name, that voice.

04:27:51.000 Why do you guys keep booting Jaden?

04:27:53.000 Why does he want to be in this so bad?

04:27:55.000 We don't boot Jaden.

04:27:56.000 We're not booting anybody.

04:27:58.000 Well, he's trying to join.

04:27:59.000 Tell him to join.

04:28:02.000 Whatever, man.

04:28:03.000 I don't really care.

04:28:04.000 Yeah, I didn't know we were getting streamed, man.

04:28:09.000 I should have plugged my social medias earlier.

04:28:11.000 Speaking of social media, mine's right there, VicenteBurn.

04:28:15.000 Oh, okay, yeah.

04:28:16.000 He picks for sale.

04:28:20.000 I don't even know how to do that.

04:28:22.000 I'm too lazy to figure out how.

04:28:23.000 I feel that.

04:28:46.000 It's okay.

04:28:48.000 My social media is the same as my username.

04:28:50.000 It's fine.

04:28:50.000 Any questions?

04:28:52.000 Any more questions?

04:28:53.000 Yeah, there's more.

04:28:53.000 There's a bunch more.

04:28:54.000 There's a graphic that I made you.

04:28:57.000 I have to go to bed.

04:28:58.000 Can I shout out Temple OS before I log off for tonight?

04:29:02.000 We have to, you know, shout out Temple OS. 1.00

04:29:04.000 Fuck you, okay? 1.00

04:29:06.000 Shout out to Temple OS, alright? 1.00

04:29:08.000 Before I log off. 1.00

04:29:09.000 Hey, fuck that. 1.00

04:29:12.000 Cut. 1.00

04:29:13.000 Muted.

04:29:14.000 Okay, um... Alright, I think I'm going to say goodbye because I'm about to pass out in my chair, so... Yeah, I'm probably going to get out.

04:29:25.000 We can do it again.

04:29:26.000 Later.

04:29:28.000 For sure.

04:29:34.000 Yeah, there's a question mark.

04:29:36.000 All the gropers in the chat just started crying. 0.95

04:29:38.000 I mean, look at Kyle Frank.

04:29:40.000 Kyle Frank down here looks like he wants to cry.

04:29:42.000 I wanna, I wanna, I wanna unmute somebody that was like mad the whole live.

04:29:47.000 What is he doing?

04:29:48.000 What is that face?

04:29:50.000 I like his stuffed animals.

04:29:52.000 Bro, you got stuffed animals and everything?

04:29:54.000 A beta male right there.

04:29:56.000 He's a beta male right there!

04:29:57.000 What are you talking about?

04:29:59.000 These are so mean.

04:30:01.000 This dude's lit.

04:30:02.000 I like him.

04:30:02.000 Hey, hey, hey.

04:30:03.000 Unmute him.

04:30:04.000 I don't care what he has to say.

04:30:06.000 Unmute Kyle.

04:30:07.000 Unmute Kyle.

04:30:07.000 If you're gonna roast him, you gotta let him hit back.

04:30:09.000 Unmute him now! 1.00

04:30:10.000 Kyle, we can hear you.

04:30:11.000 What is poppin', my friends?

04:30:13.000 Good morning at this point.

04:30:14.000 Quick shoutout to Rice Realist for streaming this whole thing.

04:30:17.000 Appreciate it for all you guys.

04:30:19.000 Um, well, besides for the roasting, thank you for accompanying my stuffed animals.

04:30:22.000 That one's named Mary Kate the Beagle. 1.00

04:30:24.000 I've had that thing since I was like two years old.

04:30:26.000 Gave it to my uncle, so thank you for making fun of me for that one.

04:30:29.000 Um, but something I just wanted to say, just as somebody who is spectating this, before Nick even joined this chat, um, and as somebody who's involved with like the whole campus conservative sort of like turning point college republican thing where I live in New York State, is before Nick joined, I like, I'm uh, the conservative values, I don't know what your name is, sorry.

04:30:46.000 But you were calling, I'm not saying this is a bad thing, I'm saying this as just general, this is what you're doing, you can go around the table and watch it, you were saying that Nick was racist, that his supporters were racist, and some things along these lines.

04:30:58.000 And as this conversation has progressed, I've seen, I've, we've all seen this transformation of you and a lot of these other TikTok people into more, being a lot more accepting of Nick's side and accepting of his supporters and his movement, and I think that's,

04:31:14.000 Something that's very, I think it's very admirable that we've seen from you and I think it's a very good sign.

04:31:19.000 Well, the thing is, you know, whenever, whenever Nick's, you know, I, I never had like entertained the idea of like, I guess backing up Nick Fuentes.

04:31:30.000 Only time I've ever seen Nick Fuentes is like the, the times that people try to bash him on YouTube.

04:31:36.000 We're good to go!

04:31:53.000 I don't think so.

04:32:09.000 Be more understanding, I guess.

04:32:10.000 You know, be a little bit more, you know, open.

04:32:13.000 Yeah, and expanding on that, before the college semester got, you know, interrupted by this coronavirus thing, I was able to give a presentation during my College Republicans on a topic that Nick doesn't really talk about often, but it's sort of, I wanted to encapsulate some disagreements between conservatives.

04:32:31.000 I did a presentation on healthcare.

04:32:33.000 And I, the main idea of it was using the government to help people is a good idea.

04:32:38.000 And just on that issue alone, just me like being alone, like I thought I was alone in that room, giving that discussion to a lot of like libertarian conservative minded kids.

04:32:48.000 After I gave that presentation, I was like debating on people, I felt like I was debating a Steven Crowder video with some of these kids.

04:32:54.000 But anyways,

04:32:56.000 After I gave that presentation, a lot of the members came up to me and they thanked me for giving that perspective on something as simple as health care because they were scared to say that they thought that something like universal health care in this way that Germany or Japan does it, not like Medicare for all like Sanders wants, but using the government to help people in that way is a good idea and that they were afraid to share that opinion because they thought they would be alone.

04:33:18.000 And we call this the spiral of silence in the journalism field, in the communications field.

04:33:22.000 It's five in the morning, I'm tired.

04:33:26.000 The spiral of silence is where if you think you're alone, you're not going to speak.

04:33:30.000 And something that Nick has been able to grasp onto in the conservative movement is that he is one of the only people, like most visible out there people, that are sharing his views on immigration, his views on race, his views on certain lobbies in the government, that he is the one

04:33:51.000 And his movement is going to lead to more and more people being comfortable with sharing their positions.

04:33:57.000 And as you said previously, you had this perception of Nick and his movement as sort of this out there, internet, dark corner, alt-right thing, I think some of you were calling him.

04:34:09.000 No, I'm not saying you called him that.

04:34:10.000 I think I heard that.

04:34:11.000 For sure, you know, and I think the biggest thing is, you know, seeing Nick come on TikTok.

04:34:15.000 Cause that was like, you know, I guess for all of us, you know, people who do politics on TikTok, like, you know, whenever,

04:34:38.000 Yeah, I think so.

04:34:54.000 Like his, you know, fans, dedication, his, you know, followers, dedication and everything to, you know, his movement that he's begun.

04:35:01.000 And so, you know, I, I definitely, uh, I definitely think that, you know, it, I think this opportunity, it's given an opportunity for all of us to, I guess, hear him out, you know, especially for all of us who maybe had not before.

04:35:14.000 And so it, uh, offers us a little, Vicente really.

04:35:19.000 What are you talking about?

04:35:21.000 Also, a quick comment on the Rice Reelers stream, the chat.

04:35:24.000 I love it.

04:35:24.000 They're calling me the chat autist.

04:35:26.000 Yeah, I was watching that.

04:35:27.000 I approve of this label.

04:35:29.000 The quick thing about me is I was actually, this is going to be the funniest thing you've ever heard in your life, I was actually diagnosed with a processing delay when I was three years old.

04:35:38.000 If you know what that is, that actually is a learning disability, very similar to autism.

04:35:42.000 So it is an accurate statement to call me the chat autist.

04:35:46.000 I'm like, this is exactly why we do these live streams.

04:35:50.000 Just so we can have everybody's view out there.

04:36:03.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

04:36:03.000 No, I mean, listen, I am open to hearing anybody's point of view.

04:36:07.000 That doesn't mean, you know, that Nick going into this knew that he was going to change everybody's minds, you know, that whenever he got in here, you know, that the point, the point was for all of us to... What is that?

04:36:27.000 No, I'm literally laying in my bed right now dude.

04:36:40.000 Yeah.

04:36:41.000 Anyways.

04:36:41.000 And so that's what I was trying to figure out who that was before I finished talking anyways.

04:36:45.000 But yeah, no, going into this, everybody wanted to, you know, ask Nick questions and find out, you know, further what he believed, you know, from, you know, cause it's a different story whenever you're talking to someone, you know, one-on-one having them answer your questions and having them, you know, give you insight on what they believe rather than what, you know, some journalist or some YouTube video says about somebody.

04:37:09.000 Yeah, I'm a human being.

04:37:10.000 That's the thing.

04:37:13.000 My ad on DLive is on the Rice Real Estate.

04:37:19.000 Let me find my ad.

04:37:20.000 I don't even remember it.

04:37:22.000 My Twitter is... Hold on, let me go to my profile.

04:37:27.000 I don't remember the ad.

04:37:28.000 It is at Kyle Frank the Jew.

04:37:30.000 You can just look up Kay Frank on Twitter.

04:37:32.000 It'll all come up.

04:37:33.000 And on DLive, I think I'm just Kyle Frank.

04:37:37.000 So you can follow me there if you want.

04:37:39.000 I'll link it in this on my chat right now.

04:37:42.000 It just said hi friends in the chat.

04:37:44.000 Um, everyone follow me on live cams.

04:37:46.000 I go live every Monday at 8pm.

04:37:47.000 Vicente, you're getting muted. 0.99

04:37:48.000 Shut up. 0.99

04:37:49.000 Yeah, Vicente. 0.99

04:37:53.000 Anybody want to see that?

04:37:55.000 We'll see.

04:37:56.000 Monday.

04:37:57.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00

04:37:58.000 Shut up. 1.00

04:37:59.000 My fans only? 1.00

04:38:02.000 I hate that stuff.

04:38:03.000 It's so weird.

04:38:05.000 Sorry for the interruption, but they were gonna ask me about MBMIV live chat and I just wanted to get that out.

04:38:09.000 You're fine.

04:38:10.000 Are you good now?

04:38:12.000 I mean, I'd like to stay unmuted because I like talking, but... I think we're gonna probably close it up anyway soon, so... I mean, it's 5am.

04:38:20.000 It's too late for me to go to bed.

04:38:21.000 I'm just gonna stay up.

04:38:22.000 We'll probably do this tomorrow.

04:38:24.000 I'll be on tomorrow.

04:38:26.000 I don't even know if I want to go to sleep at this point, like...

04:38:30.000 Sleep is for the weak.

04:38:32.000 Like, I don't know if it's worth it.

04:38:33.000 You guys don't do the all-nighter thing?

04:38:35.000 I like the enthusiasm here, DOI.

04:38:37.000 Thank you.

04:38:40.000 I don't know about Lance and Nick.

04:38:43.000 Lance and Nick seem like they've already met Nicholas.

04:38:48.000 We're best buddies.

04:38:49.000 We're test tube buddies.

04:38:50.000 Not a big deal.

04:38:52.000 No, we're not.

04:38:53.000 Grown in the same test tube.

04:38:56.000 I would also like to point out that I have Nicholas's personal Snapchat, and he has me added there.

04:39:00.000 Oh my gosh.

04:39:01.000 True, true.

04:39:02.000 So does Lance.

04:39:04.000 There's like 2,000 people watching.

04:39:06.000 Don't give that out if he doesn't want it to be.

04:39:08.000 No, I'm not giving it out, no.

04:39:10.000 Kings only, kings only Snapchat.

04:39:14.000 Hey, listen, okay?

04:39:18.000 As long as I can slide in those Twitter DMs, that's all that matters.

04:39:21.000 You got it, baby, you got it.

04:39:23.000 You got everybody on the streams cool.

04:39:25.000 I'm vibing with you guys.

04:39:27.000 You guys are chill.

04:39:28.000 You're not like, you know, sometimes I get on a stream and people are like, oh, you're you hate women and they're simps or whatever, but you guys are based.

04:39:36.000 So it's nice not being on a stream of Destiny every other month. 0.99

04:39:40.000 Yeah, dude, that guy sucks. 0.98

04:39:43.000 Like this person right here. 0.99

04:39:44.000 You know that one dude?

04:39:45.000 He's like a liberal.

04:39:46.000 He's like an upcoming liberal guy.

04:39:47.000 I think his name, his YouTube is like Vaushan or something.

04:39:50.000 He's not a liberal. 1.00

04:39:50.000 He's a fucking communist. 1.00

04:39:52.000 I hate that guy. 1.00

04:39:53.000 He's, he's literally fat and a communist and like a pedophile. 1.00

04:39:57.000 So it's like, what's even the point here? 0.99

04:39:59.000 Would you debate him?

04:40:00.000 Would you debate him?

04:40:01.000 Yeah, I said I would debate him.

04:40:03.000 He refuses to, uh, to agree to the challenge.

04:40:06.000 Debate Heisenberg.

04:40:07.000 I want to see that.

04:40:08.000 Yes, debate Heisenberg.

04:40:10.000 Debate Heisenberg on TikTok.

04:40:11.000 Who's Heisenberg?

04:40:13.000 He's a communist.

04:40:14.000 He's an anarcho-communist. 1.00

04:40:16.000 He's got some mental issues. 0.99

04:40:18.000 She's flipping us off. 0.98

04:40:20.000 Oh, why is she flipping us off?

04:40:21.000 Look at her background. 0.85

04:40:22.000 It's kind of cringe.

04:40:23.000 It's Ocasio-Cortez.

04:40:25.000 It's very cringe.

04:40:27.000 I just noticed that!

04:40:31.000 Why would you frame that?

04:40:32.000 That's like literally saying, I'm not gonna go that far, but like... Would you frame garbage, honestly? 0.57

04:40:38.000 Yeah, how would you frame garbage? 0.79

04:40:39.000 I'll go that far, bro. 0.69

04:40:40.000 I'll go further. 0.97

04:40:40.000 Yo, why would you frame garbage? 0.97

04:40:42.000 Why would you? 0.72

04:40:43.000 Okay, I'm not gonna say that.

04:40:44.000 Okay, but... Here, DM between.

04:40:46.000 She don't like that.

04:40:47.000 She needs to go back to being a bartender. 1.00

04:40:49.000 She needs to go back to being a bartender. 1.00

04:40:51.000 She's so mad, she can't even talk. 0.98

04:40:53.000 She needs to go back to the kitchen. 1.00

04:40:58.000 I'm not gonna go with that one because we'll get cancelled there.

04:41:01.000 I am.

04:41:01.000 I'm cancer proof.

04:41:04.000 That's so dumb. 1.00

04:41:05.000 Who said that? 1.00

04:41:07.000 I thought Nick said he's cancel-proof.

04:41:08.000 No, I'm cancel-proof.

04:41:10.000 When that guy on her campaign got fired, that's when her career tanked, because he was the guy pulling all the strings.

04:41:17.000 And when she got exposed for taking millions of dollars.

04:41:19.000 What is she saying?

04:41:19.000 Unmute her.

04:41:20.000 Unmute her. 0.96

04:41:21.000 Let's hear her. 0.75

04:41:21.000 She's probably going to be rude and obnoxious. 0.75

04:41:23.000 I'm taking bets.

04:41:24.000 How much you want to bet she's going to be rude and obnoxious? 1.00

04:41:26.000 All right, here we go.

04:41:27.000 Stop.

04:41:27.000 She's unmuted.

04:41:28.000 Wait, where'd she go?

04:41:33.000 She's unmuted.

04:41:33.000 Did she leave?

04:41:35.000 We can't hear you.

04:41:36.000 We can't hear you.

04:41:37.000 Hello, tech department.

04:41:38.000 You're unmuted, but we can't hear you.

04:41:41.000 It's because she likes AOC.

04:41:44.000 She probably left. 0.99

04:41:45.000 I can't even see you on screen.

04:41:47.000 No, she's here.

04:41:47.000 She has to connect.

04:41:48.000 Just talk.

04:41:49.000 Make sure your microphone's connected.

04:41:51.000 Okay, hello.

04:41:52.000 We can't hear you.

04:41:52.000 Try again.

04:42:03.000 I just did.

04:42:19.000 No, now she's muted.

04:42:21.000 But her mic was mutable.

04:42:22.000 Or un-mutable.

04:42:22.000 You see where it says mute at the bottom left?

04:42:24.000 No, she's just broken.

04:42:26.000 Now it says un-muted.

04:42:27.000 Make sure you set up a join call to the IT department.

04:42:31.000 Try and unplug your headphones.

04:42:32.000 I don't think we've tried this hard to talk to anybody in this call tonight.

04:42:37.000 Thank you for calling tech support.

04:42:39.000 It's because of AOC.

04:42:41.000 She didn't like that.

04:42:44.000 She didn't like that one bit.

04:42:47.000 Oh, now she's just got the V. Is she back?

04:42:50.000 Did you get it fixed?

04:42:50.000 Rib.

04:42:51.000 Well, now I want her to talk.

04:42:52.000 She's gonna come in fired up now after you said that. 1.00

04:42:54.000 Yeah, now I'm anticipating it.

04:42:57.000 Let's go.

04:42:58.000 No, fix your audio.

04:42:59.000 No, we can't hear you.

04:43:00.000 I'm gonna take some ibuprofen.

04:43:01.000 My head hurts.

04:43:03.000 My head hurts from looking at ASD that long.

04:43:04.000 Let's go.

04:43:08.000 There you go, now your head's covering her, so it'll be a lot better.

04:43:10.000 Before you can- Before- Oh, no.

04:43:12.000 Why does she have three of them? 1.00

04:43:15.000 Are you a felon in New York?

04:43:17.000 Like, idolize AOC with, like, three posts. 0.56

04:43:19.000 She's a felon in New York. 0.99

04:43:20.000 She's a felon. 1.00

04:43:20.000 AOC is a bitch. 1.00

04:43:21.000 I hope you didn't pay for those. 1.00

04:43:22.000 Are you from Brooklyn, or from Queens? 0.99

04:43:24.000 She looks like a donkey. 1.00

04:43:25.000 He bought three of them? 0.99

04:43:26.000 That's, like, that's not a good investment. 0.99

04:43:28.000 AOC looks like a donkey. 0.99

04:43:34.000 She looks like a donkey? 1.00

04:43:35.000 She looks like a donkey. 1.00

04:43:37.000 Have you seen those memes that they post? 0.98

04:43:41.000 They take her teeth and they replace it on a donkey's teeth and it looks the same. 0.83

04:43:44.000 Oh, she has horse teeth. 1.00

04:43:49.000 That's so dumb. 1.00

04:43:50.000 Can someone spotlight her again? 1.00

04:43:53.000 She's still mad.

04:43:54.000 How's mad?

04:43:54.000 Fix your mic.

04:43:57.000 Unmute it in case she ever figures out how to fix it. 0.58

04:44:00.000 How do you know anything about politics if you can't even fix your mic?

04:44:04.000 She wants to tell us how to run society. 0.89

04:44:06.000 She can't even run her computer.

04:44:08.000 Oh my god.

04:44:10.000 That's like so fourth grade.

04:44:13.000 Your mom!

04:44:15.000 Doing your mom, doing, doing your mom. 1.00

04:44:17.000 Shut up. 1.00

04:44:17.000 Do you fix it yet? 1.00

04:44:20.000 Peanut butter jelly.

04:44:20.000 She doesn't know how.

04:44:22.000 I was gonna say a really bad joke, but I'm not going to.

04:44:25.000 Is the mic input right on your computer?

04:44:27.000 Like, did you go to the arrow by the mute?

04:44:30.000 And it says like- I tried it. 0.99

04:44:33.000 Damn. 0.99

04:44:34.000 Go on, setting. 1.00

04:44:35.000 That just shows you that God doesn't love you.

04:44:37.000 People that like AOC are just inferior.

04:44:39.000 You should better call her uncle and fix it.

04:44:45.000 Hey, just unplug everything and just talk.

04:44:49.000 Do sign language or something.

04:44:51.000 Maybe AOC's way easier.

04:44:55.000 It's not hard, dude.

04:44:56.000 This is like the easiest thing in the world.

04:44:57.000 Hey, she's struggling.

04:44:59.000 She's a liberal.

04:45:02.000 He said I'm a leftist.

04:45:04.000 I'm a leftist.

04:45:05.000 That's even worse.

04:45:07.000 She denies the label of liberal.

04:45:10.000 She has embraced leftism.

04:45:12.000 Lance, she had some choice words for you.

04:45:16.000 Do you believe in socialism?

04:45:20.000 Oh, that's kind of cringe.

04:45:21.000 That's kind of cringe.

04:45:22.000 Yeah, she said I'm a democratic socialist.

04:45:25.000 Yo, Jayden?

04:45:26.000 Yo, somebody unmute Jayden.

04:45:27.000 Jayden's in there.

04:45:28.000 And this time I can't hear her at all.

04:45:30.000 Who's Jayden?

04:45:31.000 Jaden McNeil, the boy.

04:45:33.000 Oh, and Beardson?

04:45:35.000 Yo, I'd meet Beardson and Jaden.

04:45:37.000 Oh my gosh, who are these people?

04:45:39.000 My boys.

04:45:40.000 It ain't working.

04:45:48.000 Let's get Beardson and Jaden.

04:45:58.000 I feel like the kid that wasn't invited to the sleepover right now, is there a way that I can be unmuted?

04:46:06.000 I was booted when you were trying to get the guy who kept moving his mic and vaping back in.

04:46:12.000 Is there a way that you can remove me from the ban list?

04:46:17.000 You're not on the band.

04:46:18.000 That's why you're on it right now.

04:46:19.000 No, I'm on my phone.

04:46:20.000 I want to get on my computer.

04:46:22.000 Jaden is hijacking the system right now.

04:46:25.000 I have no idea how to do that, honestly.

04:46:27.000 Jaden is at the innovator.

04:46:28.000 I don't think anybody banned anybody, though.

04:46:32.000 That's a thing.

04:46:33.000 No, what happened was, whenever we were getting Nick videos in here, we had to kick somebody out, and that just happened to be Jaden.

04:46:42.000 Awww.

04:46:42.000 But there isn't even a hundred people in the call anymore.

04:46:45.000 There's like 66.

04:46:46.000 Yeah, no, that was before.

04:46:47.000 We had like three people in the waiting list and then like a hundred people in the thing.

04:46:51.000 Oh, facts, facts, facts.

04:46:52.000 Okay.

04:46:53.000 Yeah.

04:46:54.000 Facts.

04:46:55.000 Because you know, when, when Nick tweets out that he's going on a zoom call, everybody joins.

04:47:00.000 Is that what happened?

04:47:02.000 Yeah.

04:47:03.000 Wiper arm videos.

04:47:05.000 I'm here to turn Nick videos into an irony, bro.

04:47:08.000 Yeah, no, he will never be an irony, bro.

04:47:11.000 He's too Chad, too Chad to be an irony.

04:47:13.000 No, he is unironic, bro.

04:47:17.000 Should I mute my mic, Chad?

04:47:25.000 I think Nick fell asleep, guys.

04:47:27.000 What, me?

04:47:27.000 Like, all I see is like half of your eye.

04:47:32.000 Yeah, I'm just... I'm just chillin'.

04:47:33.000 What is this?

04:47:34.000 What is this?

04:47:35.000 These zoomers are weak! 1.00

04:47:35.000 Hey, just give Violet the... Yeah, Violet the... Yeah, I've made Violet the host. 1.00

04:47:39.000 Yeah.

04:47:51.000 I think I'm going to leave in a minute, dude.

04:47:53.000 You get a chair, dude.

04:47:54.000 I don't feel like going to bed at this point.

04:47:55.000 They're terrified.

04:47:56.000 Terrified of the irony, bro, in the gym.

04:47:59.000 I'm not terrified of anything.

04:48:01.000 1v1 me in car, bro.

04:48:03.000 I'm not afraid of anything, Nick.

04:48:05.000 1v1 me in car.

04:48:05.000 No, you're pretty based.

04:48:07.000 You're pretty fearless.

04:48:09.000 Fearless?

04:48:09.000 I'll agree.

04:48:12.000 Who's that black guy giving us the finger? 1.00

04:48:14.000 Disrespect. 0.99

04:48:15.000 Where?

04:48:16.000 Look at this guy. 0.91

04:48:17.000 This black guy giving us two middle fingers. 1.00

04:48:19.000 Fuck you, dude. 1.00

04:48:22.000 Right back at ya. 1.00

04:48:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

04:48:25.000 Fuck your moms. 1.00

04:48:27.000 Unmute him. 1.00

04:48:28.000 I want to see what he has to say, honestly.

04:48:30.000 I'm sure it's very intellectual.

04:48:32.000 I would not encourage unmuting him.

04:48:35.000 Hey bud, you're unmuted.

04:48:36.000 Talk.

04:48:37.000 Just don't say the n-word.

04:48:38.000 Well, somebody else, uh, what's it called?

04:48:40.000 Yeah, if I can't say it, you can't either.

04:48:43.000 Yeah, for real.

04:48:45.000 Well, he didn't want to unmute himself.

04:48:48.000 Unmute the- is the Indian girl ready, or what's her deal? 0.97

04:48:52.000 Let's see.

04:48:53.000 Alright, I will see you all later.

04:48:56.000 How about Craig?

04:48:57.000 Craig is a straight up.

04:48:58.000 He's got a question, I can tell.

04:49:01.000 Tell the AOC girls to come back on if she's got feet. 1.00

04:49:03.000 There she goes! 0.94

04:49:05.000 She's here!

04:49:06.000 Hooray! 0.97

04:49:07.000 AOC knockoff is here.

04:49:09.000 I think you know who the Nicholas Dweeb was.

04:49:13.000 Oh! 0.60

04:49:13.000 Nicholas Dweeb. 0.60

04:49:14.000 I was literally just here to talk to MK and like Gabby and Jordan and then I

04:49:21.000 Stumbled upon this and it was quite a mess, not gonna lie.

04:49:25.000 Um.

04:49:26.000 No, here you are.

04:49:27.000 A mess.

04:49:28.000 Also, I do have three AOC pictures and multiple sets of pants.

04:49:32.000 That's French.

04:49:33.000 Do you have two feet?

04:49:33.000 I'm really sorry about that.

04:49:34.000 I call them AOC.

04:49:35.000 We'll pray for you.

04:49:37.000 I hope you got them for free.

04:49:39.000 Oh, I appreciate that.

04:49:40.000 I'm sorry you wasted your money on a degenerate bartender. 0.71

04:49:44.000 I've actually also seen her in person in fan culture.

04:49:47.000 Oh my gosh, that's actually like the opposite of, like, flexing on us.

04:49:51.000 She's probably short. 1.00

04:49:52.000 I feel like any man could defeat her in a fight.

04:49:55.000 And what does that say about her as the political leader? 1.00

04:49:58.000 She literally just gets laid, and then this whole bullshit attitude you've got going. 1.00

04:50:03.000 People have literally offered to pay Nick to have sex with them because he's- Hey, hey, hey, don't talk about that! 0.99

04:50:08.000 That is an invalid argument. 0.88

04:50:10.000 True.

04:50:11.000 Factual.

04:50:12.000 I can't post that anymore.

04:50:13.000 I was recording. 1.00

04:50:15.000 Shit. 1.00

04:50:16.000 Are you gonna actually talk to us or just gonna like... Oh, I did have a question, but... Yeah, go ahead. 1.00

04:50:22.000 Sorry.

04:50:22.000 I got distracted by your IT jokes that I just thought were so funny.

04:50:26.000 They were actually pretty funny.

04:50:27.000 She liked it.

04:50:28.000 Everyone was... The whole squad was laughing except for you because you were... She was laughing.

04:50:33.000 She liked it.

04:50:34.000 Okay.

04:50:35.000 Go ahead.

04:50:37.000 Um, my question was, uh, like, a genuine question.

04:50:40.000 Uh, like, I didn't understand why you guys repeatedly would go into different groups.

04:50:45.000 Like, I believe, um, I forget his name, but there was a boy who was talking about trans rights and, like, LGBTQIA issues earlier, oh, much earlier, not this late.

04:50:59.000 And he was talking about things and you guys would, like, directly go and, um, 0.89

04:51:05.000 And of course there's trans people that molest kids. 1.00

04:51:36.000 There's a lot of folks.

04:51:51.000 If I may answer with an answer that hasn't been said yet tonight, the reason we pick out these sort of examples of like the extreme parts of your movement, or any movement for that matter, is we see these people as like the logical conclusion of that line of thinking.

04:52:07.000 So like when we're talking about transgenderism, we're talking about gay rights and stuff like that,

04:52:12.000 The reason pedophilia and NAMBLA and those groups were brought up was that the line of thinking and the arguments in favor of transgenderism, we see it as it can eventually be a way to justify pedophilia or justify other acts that we consider deviant or I'm sure even you consider deviant.

04:52:32.000 So that's one of the main reasons we picked those out.

04:52:35.000 So I could refute that argument by saying that the right-wing movement, or people in the right-wing movement, could be passing legislation to be openly homophobic, racist.

04:52:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

04:52:46.000 And that's you agreeing with me, that there are parts of every movement that maybe the logical conclusion is something like that.

04:52:55.000 That's agreeing with my statement.

04:52:56.000 That wasn't my general question, but yeah, I am conceding, I guess, to the fact that there are parts of every movement that can be seen in a negative light.

04:53:04.000 Oh, do I have to separate myself from that opinion?

04:53:05.000 Is Nick's video still on?

04:53:06.000 I just wanted to know.

04:53:28.000 I'm distancing.

04:53:30.000 I do not agree with this.

04:53:32.000 We're not homophobic.

04:53:34.000 He might be, but we're not.

04:53:36.000 What are you talking about?

04:53:40.000 I don't think that's too accurate.

04:53:42.000 I think they are still normal people.

04:53:43.000 I mean normal as, you know, as a human being.

04:53:46.000 But, like, comparing them to insects, yeah, that's a no-no.

04:53:49.000 No, it's not.

04:54:07.000 But it's not saying, like, they're maggots.

04:54:09.000 It's just saying that the level of revulsion, that disgust emotion, was similar in those two instances.

04:54:15.000 And all that is to say that there's something maybe natural or intuitive about being prejudiced on that subject, that's all.

04:54:23.000 And I think, you know, how can you... I don't know, some of these things, like racist, obviously you could say, like,

04:54:28.000 That's not true.

04:54:29.000 There are people who exist.

04:54:56.000 Jesus Christ.

04:54:57.000 Well, I just feel like there are people who exist who are Christian and both gay or Christian and straight, and they just generally don't feel the need to push their beliefs on other people.

04:55:11.000 And honestly, I barely agree with anything you say, but I respect you as a debater.

04:55:18.000 You get your points across very well.

04:55:21.000 But I just don't know if any of your ideologies are something that anyone should follow for

04:55:26.000 You're wrong.

04:55:27.000 That's the urban New York mindset.

04:55:30.000 We don't all agree with Nick.

04:55:36.000 Yeah, you do.

04:55:38.000 Not all of us agree with you.

04:55:40.000 In your heart of hearts, you agree with me, Lance.

04:55:42.000 I said the good in you.

04:55:43.000 You were supposed to bring balance, not leave it in darkness, Lance.

04:55:47.000 We don't agree, not all of us agree with Nick.

04:55:50.000 You swore to Troy Connick, not join them.

04:55:53.000 The fact that you guys are letting it happen, thus proves that you're not going to do anything to stop it.

04:55:57.000 It's free speech.

04:55:58.000 He can say whatever he wants, but I don't really agree with him.

04:56:01.000 And I completely agree with that.

04:56:02.000 I do.

04:56:03.000 I don't agree with him.

04:56:05.000 But I'm allowing him to have his free speech.

04:56:07.000 Okay, that's an interesting way to look at the whole situation.

04:56:10.000 It's called free speech.

04:56:10.000 That's exactly how it is.

04:56:11.000 It's literally the first amendment.

04:56:12.000 Do you not agree with the constitution?

04:56:15.000 I literally have it right here.

04:56:16.000 Do you agree with this document right here?

04:56:19.000 I mean, we don't agree with it, but we both agree with it.

04:56:22.000 Based constitution.

04:56:24.000 Have it on me at all times.

04:56:26.000 Based?

04:56:26.000 Yo, based?

04:56:27.000 Based.

04:56:28.000 We'll read you.

04:56:29.000 Literally have it right here.

04:56:31.000 Yo, Lance with the pocket constitution?

04:56:33.000 Oh no, it's actually a legit constitution, look.

04:56:36.000 He's legit liberal.

04:56:38.000 An actual scroll.

04:56:39.000 Bam, got him, first amendment.

04:56:40.000 We have constitutional rights.

04:56:42.000 Do you know what that is?

04:56:43.000 Have you ever read it?

04:56:44.000 He stole that from the Library of Congress.

04:56:47.000 No, I actually did.

04:56:48.000 Oh wait, don't tell anybody that though.

04:56:49.000 Yeah, yeah!

04:56:55.000 Yeah!

04:56:56.000 Why are you, like, screaming, dude?

04:56:58.000 He's, like, so hyped up right now.

04:57:00.000 I'm hyped.

04:57:00.000 4 AM hyped, man.

04:57:02.000 I pulled up the Constitution. 0.62

04:57:03.000 Now he's all, like, insane.

04:57:05.000 My problem with AOC is she has not responded to any of my DMs.

04:57:09.000 Same.

04:57:10.000 Literally same.

04:57:12.000 I just want a toe, AOC, for America, you know?

04:57:15.000 Just a toe.

04:57:17.000 I have actually beaten her as well.

04:57:18.000 AOC is a woman. 0.93

04:57:20.000 No business being a representative.

04:57:22.000 Sorry, ladies. 1.00

04:57:23.000 That's a man's job. 1.00

04:57:25.000 Okay, okay, that's a little bit too bad.

04:57:27.000 I'm not with that.

04:57:29.000 There's a lot of smart women out there that can be senators and stuff. 1.00

04:57:33.000 See, we don't agree with everything.

04:57:34.000 Wait, wait, Nick, Nick, Nick.

04:57:36.000 What do you think about the 19th Amendment?

04:57:39.000 I told you, repeal. 0.62

04:57:40.000 We already covered this.

04:57:42.000 You think that you don't think women should be able to vote? 0.84

04:57:45.000 Uh, no.

04:57:45.000 No, I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon.

04:57:47.000 That's a little bit crazy.

04:57:49.000 If I could go back in time... Dude, that's literally... Are you... That's a little bit... That's actually sexist.

04:57:52.000 Why?

04:57:52.000 You guys are simping.

04:57:53.000 It's very pathetic to see. 0.99

04:57:54.000 We're not simping. 0.97

04:57:55.000 We're just being normal human beings.

04:57:58.000 No, this is not a normal question.

04:58:00.000 What's normal is this, okay?

04:58:02.000 If I may add on to the voting question here, I'm not really from a sex or a race point of view, but there have been studies over time where when voting has been expanded to the general population, so in the beginning of the country where it was only landowning whites could vote, you had the average grade level of a speech of a presidential candidate was a grade of 12.

04:58:24.000 Vote kept getting expanded and expanded to more people, to non-landowning citizens,

04:58:30.000 Drop back down to, I believe, eight or nine.

04:58:33.000 Then, obviously, after the Civil War, when African-Americans were given the right to vote, I think it stayed the same a little bit, but then went down as the new demographics were brought in.

04:58:41.000 And then when women were given the vote in the 1920s, I'm not saying I disagree with that. 0.96

04:58:45.000 I disagree with the pan-VMW thing of women voting. 0.51

04:58:48.000 Sorry to cuck a little bit there, but I'm just giving a wider perspective on it.

04:58:51.000 No, no, this guy's got the right idea.

04:58:52.000 Here's what we do.

04:58:53.000 We slip it in.

04:58:55.000 We don't tell them that we're taking the right to vote away.

04:58:58.000 Why are you talking to me?

04:59:00.000 Let me finish my point.

04:59:02.000 And as we've gone, and even in the 1960s, when the final voting reforms of the Voting Rights Act, we've seen the grade level of presidential speeches go way down through the roof, through the floor.

04:59:14.000 This is how you get people like President Trump, where

04:59:18.000 We can, or me and Nick, I'm sure would agree that Trump is a genius, that he does know what he's doing, but with his speaking patterns and his style of marketing, it is lowest common denominator.

04:59:27.000 And the reason for that is because we have a lot of people voting.

04:59:31.000 Just a wider perspective on that.

04:59:33.000 I agree.

04:59:34.000 Donald Trump is a genius.

04:59:35.000 Yeah, so here's what we do.

04:59:36.000 We repeal the 19th on the grounds of like, oh, there's just too many people voting, and then we just don't give women the right to vote back. 0.96

04:59:43.000 That's what we do.

04:59:44.000 This guy's got the... See, Kyle's got the right idea.

04:59:46.000 We slip it in.

04:59:47.000 We hide it.

04:59:48.000 No more votes.

04:59:49.000 We're taking their votes.

04:59:50.000 Take their coat.

04:59:51.000 I have totally 100% against that, but... Take her coat.

04:59:54.000 Yeah, 100% against that.

04:59:56.000 It's America.

04:59:57.000 Sipping for girls. 0.67

04:59:59.000 How is that cringe, dude?

05:00:01.000 Please, ma'am.

05:00:02.000 Please, ma'am.

05:00:03.000 You can't have the right to vote.

05:00:04.000 Can I just have a little bit of coochie?

05:00:06.000 You have to stand up to the femoid menace. 1.00

05:00:09.000 This girl kind of roasted you, Nick.

05:00:10.000 I'm just saying, I'm sorry.

05:00:11.000 I didn't hear her talking.

05:00:21.000 It sounds like you don't get laid that often, I'm just saying.

05:00:23.000 I don't.

05:00:24.000 I'm Christian. 0.52

05:00:25.000 It sounds like you get laid too often.

05:00:26.000 Do you get laid a lot? 0.97

05:00:26.000 Because that would be gross. 0.97

05:00:29.000 Yeah.

05:00:29.000 You got a high body count?

05:00:31.000 Ew! 0.98

05:00:32.000 So, correct.

05:00:33.000 I'm saving it for Mary. 0.93

05:00:34.000 Abstinence gang.

05:00:35.000 I'm saving it for my wife. 0.74

05:00:36.000 What?

05:00:37.000 Abstinence gang?

05:00:38.000 Hell yeah.

05:00:39.000 Me and Lance, we're right there.

05:00:41.000 Yet again, me and Lance.

05:00:43.000 Teaming up.

05:00:44.000 No, no, no.

05:00:46.000 Full cell test tube buddies.

05:00:49.000 Really?

05:00:50.000 Now we know why you guys are like this.

05:00:52.000 No.

05:00:53.000 We're like this because you're like this.

05:00:55.000 That's why.

05:00:57.000 Okay.

05:00:57.000 Yeah, that's right.

05:00:59.000 You kind of came in kind of hot, and so they're really just giving you what you gave back, honestly.

05:01:03.000 Because if you paid attention to the whole conversation, everybody was chill, and they all were normal, until you came in super hot, flipping everybody off, talking smack.

05:01:13.000 I'll be honest, I rose to the occasion.

05:01:15.000 This is how I talk, but okay.

05:01:16.000 Snooty, snooty, snooty.

05:01:16.000 Wait, wait, do you also like Ilhan Omar?

05:01:18.000 Do you also like Ilhan Omar?

05:01:33.000 Yeah, I do actually.

05:01:34.000 She married her brother.

05:01:35.000 Yohan Omar is based, actually.

05:01:37.000 She stands up to the Israel lobby.

05:01:39.000 Your mom is based.

05:01:39.000 Yeah, she stands up to the Israel lobby.

05:01:41.000 My mom is based.

05:01:41.000 She doesn't stand up to the Israel lobby for a reason.

05:01:43.000 Yeah, and she also married them for her Palestinian friends. 0.99

05:01:46.000 She is.

05:01:46.000 She rules.

05:01:46.000 She doesn't care about them.

05:01:47.000 She also married her brother, too.

05:01:49.000 Yeah.

05:01:50.000 Nick, come on.

05:01:52.000 You've grown so much in the way you look at politics.

05:01:54.000 She married her brother.

05:01:55.000 Can we just get past this?

05:01:58.000 Can you guys unmute Hubert?

05:01:59.000 I think it is.

05:01:59.000 Why?

05:01:59.000 Hubert?

05:02:17.000 Yeah, they're just asking me to do it, so.

05:02:19.000 This guy legit has a lightsaber and that's pretty cool.

05:02:22.000 Yeah, I just got a DM saying, make everyone pay attention to my lightslaver. 1.00

05:02:26.000 Fuck this junior tech support. 0.99

05:02:30.000 I'm reading the message I got. 1.00

05:02:32.000 Unmute lightsaber guy, I kinda wanna see what he has to say.

05:02:36.000 Wait, unmute Beanjamin.

05:02:38.000 Bean is here?

05:02:40.000 Yeah, yeah, Bean.

05:02:41.000 I love Bean.

05:02:42.000 I saw him come in, I'm trying to...

05:02:45.000 I just want to jump in here. 0.99

05:02:46.000 Yo, no fucking way! 0.99

05:02:47.000 Bean, you here? 0.98

05:02:51.000 Baddy isn't here so I just want to take his role real quick.

05:02:53.000 Dean, is this just a parody or is this actually you?

05:02:55.000 Can we stay respectful here and kind of like not just start bashing people?

05:02:59.000 We're having a really good conversation.

05:03:01.000 I just want to kind of bring it back a little bit.

05:03:04.000 Bro, civility is over.

05:03:05.000 This is late night gamer hour.

05:03:08.000 Is this actually Dean or not?

05:03:10.000 No mods.

05:03:11.000 No mods.

05:03:11.000 This is gamer hour.

05:03:12.000 I don't think that's really him.

05:03:19.000 My head hurts.

05:03:20.000 Yeah, just mute him if he's not talking.

05:03:25.000 Yeah, but he has a little fan.

05:03:26.000 Don't take our lord's name in vain.

05:03:29.000 Let's get the jokester.

05:03:30.000 Let's get the guy with the joke.

05:03:32.000 I want to hear Max Russo.

05:03:33.000 Let's get the joke in chat.

05:03:35.000 Why are they all changing their name to Violet, please?

05:03:41.000 Because I'm the one letting people talk.

05:03:45.000 This guy's still flipping us off.

05:03:46.000 It's kind of mean. 0.71

05:03:49.000 The black kid? 0.67

05:03:50.000 Benjamin, is that you?

05:03:52.000 Yep.

05:03:54.000 Hey! 0.99

05:03:54.000 Okay, so it is the real one. 0.99

05:03:56.000 Alright, I'll leave him on.

05:03:59.000 Who has the joke?

05:04:01.000 Matt Russo.

05:04:02.000 Let's hear the joke.

05:04:05.000 Lay it on me.

05:04:06.000 I'll have to look for him.

05:04:08.000 He's on page one.

05:04:10.000 Oh no, I'm doing the other thing.

05:04:11.000 Alright, can y'all hear me?

05:04:13.000 Yeah.

05:04:14.000 Okay.

05:04:15.000 Alright, so a little joke about the whole premarital sex thing.

05:04:20.000 So, I saw this one on TikTok.

05:04:24.000 And it was like, why is a girl called a prostitute because men die, but a guy is praised if he sleeps with many women?

05:04:31.000 Right?

05:04:32.000 Well, if key opens many locks, it is master key. 0.82

05:04:38.000 But if lock opens by many keys, it is just a shitty lock. 0.87

05:04:43.000 Yeah.

05:04:45.000 Yeah, true.

05:04:46.000 Great job.

05:04:47.000 I've heard James also told me that one a long time ago.

05:04:50.000 I keep typing, so that's why I have to mute you.

05:04:56.000 Why does this guy have a Joker mask on?

05:04:58.000 Are you doing your tech support job right now?

05:05:01.000 Bro, chill with that. 1.00

05:05:03.000 Guys, chill with all that crap. 0.99

05:05:07.000 It's kind of annoying. 0.99

05:05:08.000 Epic.

05:05:11.000 Yo, lightsaber man?

05:05:13.000 All right.

05:05:14.000 Face Star Wars respecter?

05:05:16.000 He's telling Lance to come to the dark side.

05:05:18.000 No, no.

05:05:21.000 He's unmuted.

05:05:23.000 Come on, lightsaber kid.

05:05:24.000 Yes, yes.

05:05:25.000 Racism is a pathway to many abilities.

05:05:28.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

05:05:30.000 Kidding, kidding.

05:05:32.000 Jokes.

05:05:33.000 I'm just kidding.

05:05:34.000 Oh, let me see if I can find my lightsaber.

05:05:36.000 Oh, wait.

05:05:36.000 Boys, lightsabers unite.

05:05:37.000 Okay.

05:05:41.000 I use this for my videos.

05:05:43.000 My lightsaber's upstairs.

05:05:44.000 This is what we call a sword fight?

05:05:45.000 Go get it.

05:05:46.000 My lightsaber is over there somewhere.

05:05:50.000 If you don't have a lightsaber, then are you really a gamer?

05:05:52.000 I have a Yoda Force FX lightsaber from Sharper Image.

05:05:55.000 I don't have a lightsaber.

05:05:57.000 I instead worship the Oaks, brother.

05:06:00.000 Ah, right.

05:06:01.000 Yo, shoutout, uh, but a lightsaber could cut that in half, so...

05:06:05.000 What's up Beardson?

05:06:06.000 What's up Nick?

05:06:07.000 I've been a subscriber since 2017.

05:06:35.000 My question is for Lance and for Nick Videos, and it's a question I've had for a long time.

05:06:41.000 With TPUSA, like, what's y'all's actual goal for the country?

05:06:45.000 Like, where does it lead?

05:06:48.000 Nick Videos is not a part of Turning Point.

05:06:50.000 Yeah, I'm not a part of Turning Point yet, so... Whatever.

05:06:53.000 But you said you wanted to become an ambassador, so... Yeah, but I'm not a part of it yet, so I don't know a whole lot about it.

05:07:00.000 Okay, so don't worry about the Turning Point then, just Nick Videos and Lance.

05:07:04.000 Like, where do you want the country to be 20 years down the road?

05:07:08.000 Not socialist.

05:07:10.000 I think that the biggest goal that we need to push towards is just...

05:07:21.000 Teaching people that ideas from the radical left are just, they're not good and they're not going to dive towards getting away from that, those radical leftist ideologies.

05:07:32.000 And you can look, you can look at it from many different perspectives on how you want to get there.

05:07:36.000 You can look at it from Nick Fuentes' perspective of just shutting everything, shutting- Oh, there's only one way.

05:07:42.000 No, no, no.

05:07:43.000 There's only one way, but I just wanted to hear y'all's way.

05:07:47.000 I mean honestly like it's just I think that at this point in time going we're gonna become radical like we're just there's so many so many like people that are just being enlightened enlightened I guess by the progressive movement.

05:08:07.000 So if Nick's politics aren't the answer, y'all have an answer?

05:08:11.000 Or no?

05:08:13.000 Are we just supposed to just go with the flow?

05:08:14.000 I can't read that either, that's what I'm saying. 0.94

05:08:16.000 Am I retarded?

05:08:23.000 We need Dyslexia to read that.

05:08:24.000 I think at this point, I'm sorry, I'm kind of like, messing up my words, I'm really tired.

05:08:29.000 Yeah, me too.

05:08:29.000 No, you're good Nick, go.

05:08:31.000 I think that at this point, it's just, we're gonna, we're moving towards the radical left, like even the GOP is moving to the left over time.

05:08:39.000 Right.

05:08:41.000 Um, I just, I, and there's such like an uprising of the progressive movement and everything, like with Bernie Sanders and AOC and Ilhan Omar.

05:08:48.000 I just, I think it's, what's going to happen is, is we're going to be like the UK.

05:08:52.000 We're going to move towards the radical left for a little while, and then we're going to realize that it fucked everything up.

05:08:58.000 And then we're going to go through what the UK went through, like with Boris Johnson now.

05:09:01.000 This dude literally joined to flex.

05:09:04.000 Right, but I think to get to the radical left, it would require, you know, a sort of demographic change that you couldn't just shift back from.

05:09:14.000 So like, unless we go Nick's route, Nick Fuentes' route, how, are we just supposed to lose?

05:09:23.000 Like, is that what you tell the common man?

05:09:24.000 Well, you know, just, we're gonna lose, but- Well, we gotta debate ideas and convince people that leftist ideas are wrong.

05:09:30.000 You can't, you can't just-

05:09:34.000 I don't disagree.

05:09:35.000 You've got to change people's minds.

05:09:37.000 That's what politics is about.

05:09:38.000 Lance, I'll take you to the south side of Chicago and you can bring your constitution.

05:09:42.000 We'll show it to all those people.

05:09:44.000 We'll go drive to McKinley Park.

05:09:46.000 We're supposed to change people's minds.

05:09:48.000 You guys are just wanting to ban and stop all immigration.

05:09:54.000 Yes.

05:09:55.000 We've got to change people's minds coming into America.

05:09:57.000 My thing is, if we could change people's minds, then why do blacks still vote overwhelmingly Democrat?

05:10:03.000 Like, how have we not even changed their mind?

05:10:05.000 And they've been with us for the longest.

05:10:07.000 It is getting better.

05:10:08.000 Yeah, we gave them $1,200.

05:10:09.000 Okay, they went from 98% to 91% in eight years.

05:10:10.000 Yeah, great improvement. 91%!

05:10:19.000 It's not, but that's not good enough.

05:10:21.000 Like, even if that was good, that's not nearly good enough for the trajectory we're on right now.

05:10:27.000 So, I don't know.

05:10:29.000 Let me just add this on to the voting demographic issue.

05:10:32.000 You all know the story of Governor George Wallace, the evil, racist, you know, segregationist governor, George Wallace.

05:10:39.000 He was a Democrat, obviously, in the South.

05:10:41.000 And after, in like the 1980s, after he like repented,

05:10:45.000 So I have a question here.

05:11:14.000 I'm not super familiar with you, Nicholas, at all.

05:11:16.000 Destroy?

05:11:17.000 Liberal annihilation?

05:11:18.000 Okay, go ahead.

05:11:19.000 What is the solution if it's not to change people's minds?

05:11:21.000 Is it, like, you can't just ban stuff because there's not enough votes going that direction to get that sort of traction.

05:11:29.000 There's not enough to get this sort of, like, stop immigration bans and those sorts of things that I've heard brought up.

05:11:34.000 And I'm not super familiar right now within the Senate and Congress.

05:11:38.000 So what's the way to change the demographic?

05:11:40.000 Get it to shift back in the correct direction?

05:11:42.000 Oh, God. 0.69

05:11:43.000 We need to whip the whites into shape, man. 1.00

05:11:45.000 No. 0.92

05:11:46.000 Sam Francis wrote about this in the 1990s.

05:11:49.000 He called the middle American radicals.

05:11:52.000 And middle American radicals, he wrote a long book about it called Revolt, Revolution from the Middle.

05:11:59.000 And he talked about how there's a major demographic that crosses party lines of middle Americans.

05:12:06.000 Middle Americans that are maybe more culturally conservative, and maybe it's a little bit more, there's a lot of variability with economic and other issues.

05:12:15.000 We'll see a lot of its contingent on how events transpire in the next few years.

05:12:18.000 You know, I mean, a lot of it's very variable and contingent, unpredictable.

05:12:20.000 Trump proved that.

05:12:22.000 You know, some people might have said the country's going one way,

05:12:41.000 Before 2015, and then Trump announced, became president, and here we are.

05:12:44.000 So, things can change, but that's sort of the idea.

05:12:48.000 Because these people, it's different.

05:12:49.000 They're inflexible.

05:12:51.000 These are people, there's no elasticity.

05:12:53.000 Even conservative blacks vote Democrat. 0.94

05:12:55.000 You look at them, and there's almost no correlation between what they believe and how they vote.

05:12:58.000 And how do you win people like that?

05:12:59.000 It's like Kyle said, the Chad Autist.

05:13:04.000 It's like he said, the party identification is unbreakable.

05:13:07.000 And you might have

05:13:09.000 Depending on the group, a little bit more leeway than others, but it's not going to happen because there's so many people coming in.

05:13:16.000 The demographics are changing so rapidly that we don't have time for Lance to go to Tijuana with his constitution and tell everybody why the First Amendment is such a winner.

05:13:25.000 Because these people, they don't have... It's like going to Iraq and trying to create a democracy.

05:13:30.000 They don't have that tradition.

05:13:32.000 Their culture did not create that country.

05:13:34.000 Their culture cannot perpetuate this country.

05:13:36.000 That's the bottom line.

05:13:38.000 So you're so I just I was just curious so you both are wanting to change people's minds you just want to go about different demographics it sounds like.

05:13:44.000 Well no not necessarily um I think a better way of saying it well I mean expanding on it rather is or not explaining what Nick said I meant I'm I'm tired what I meant to say is another way to look at this

05:13:58.000 Is why would we even want African Americans to vote for us to begin with? 1.00

05:14:02.000 You can see within the African American community, they have these major divisions clearly between their women and their men.

05:14:08.000 You see this in the divorce rates and domestic violence disputes and all that.

05:14:11.000 And really the only demographic we would be able to target to vote for the GOP is African American working class men.

05:14:18.000 And we already have all these divisions in their community.

05:14:21.000 Why would we want to add, how would it be helpful to them to add another division of party identification?

05:14:28.000 Between their men and their women. 1.00

05:14:29.000 I don't think that would help them in any given, like, perceivable way, besides for helping us win more elections, which, I mean, at the end of the day, who cares?

05:14:36.000 I mean, it's important to win elections, obviously, but if it's going to cause, like, counterproductive achievements that we don't want to achieve, that we, like, would otherwise want, like, we want an orderly society, and having more division is less order.

05:14:51.000 So why would we want that?

05:14:52.000 So you're saying that we should just, like, not get votes so black people don't argue?

05:14:57.000 Is that what you're saying?

05:14:59.000 No, what I'm saying is we should not encourage division between, in the middle of a community that's already heavily divided on gender, when the only demographic that would vote for the GOP would be the men, not the women.

05:15:12.000 And if we want an orderly society that is run with laws, and that is run cohesively with all the populations, why would we want more division like that than there already is?

05:15:23.000 What's going on with Padre Tyrone?

05:15:25.000 We want to get him in the conversation.

05:15:27.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

05:15:29.000 One more thing on the demographic thing.

05:15:31.000 Hungary hasn't figured out. 0.55

05:15:34.000 It's not that hard to boost your birth rates.

05:15:37.000 You don't have to do it by force.

05:15:38.000 We just make it easier for white people to have kids because it's super hard for a working class white family to have a big family right now.

05:15:46.000 It's just not economically viable.

05:15:47.000 We could make it that way, but

05:15:50.000 I mean, that's yet to be seen, but that's another way we could do it.

05:15:54.000 Sort of go the hungry route.

05:15:59.000 Yeah, true.

05:16:02.000 We just need one more Joker movie.

05:16:04.000 That's all we need.

05:16:05.000 And then we've got this thing wrapped up.

05:16:07.000 Yeah, or we could just go that route.

05:16:08.000 Either way.

05:16:09.000 I think I'm going to head out.

05:16:11.000 It's 5 a.m.

05:16:13.000 Time to play Animal Crossing.

05:16:15.000 Time to play Animal Crossing.

05:16:16.000 New day.

05:16:17.000 Nah, you got eight minutes till 5 a.m.

05:16:20.000 Yeah, I gotta get prepared.

05:16:22.000 I gotta make sure all my rocks are hit and I gotta, you know... I'm in Florida.

05:16:25.000 It's almost 6.

05:16:27.000 If y'all are trying to play Warzone, hit me up.

05:16:31.000 Nick, before you leave, I'm gonna DM on Twitter.

05:16:34.000 I'm blocked.

05:16:34.000 I'm gonna talk to you about it.

05:16:35.000 If you respond, I'd love that.

05:16:37.000 Did I block you, DixieZoomer? 1.00

05:16:38.000 Yeah, you did. 1.00

05:16:39.000 Were you talking shit? 1.00

05:16:41.000 Uh, I don't know. 1.00

05:16:42.000 Oh, you don't know?

05:16:44.000 Sounds convenient.

05:16:44.000 Yeah, I probably liked or retweeted something.

05:16:47.000 Yeah, that's probably what it was.

05:16:48.000 I probably retweeted something.

05:16:50.000 Uh huh.

05:16:51.000 Unoptical.

05:17:01.000 No.

05:17:02.000 Bro, nobody has their Twitter for notification when he runs.

05:17:05.000 I was just wondering.

05:17:06.000 Noob department?

05:17:07.000 Oh, this guy does.

05:17:08.000 He gets one like and he's like, he's in the grocery store like, I got a like on my tweet!

05:17:12.000 Look!

05:17:12.000 Who, Lance?

05:17:13.000 Yeah, Lance is like that.

05:17:16.000 I don't even, I don't ever even use Twitter.

05:17:19.000 No, no, I'm on, no, no.

05:17:22.000 I don't have any, anything turned on.

05:17:24.000 It's just annoying. 0.93

05:17:25.000 Lance, 1v1 me in college reading and if I win, you're racist. 0.95

05:17:29.000 Yep. 0.85

05:17:31.000 What?

05:17:31.000 It's like the pod race.

05:17:33.000 It's like the pod race.

05:17:33.000 We're going to win you.

05:17:34.000 We're going to bet with Wado.

05:17:36.000 I'm going to make a bet with Benny Johnson for you and the hyperdrive.

05:17:40.000 Before Nick goes, I got to give a shout out to my fellow Inverto Fertilization nibbas. 0.99

05:17:44.000 All right.

05:17:44.000 We're kind of brothers in this.

05:17:46.000 Brothers.

05:17:47.000 We're like brothers, but closer.

05:17:49.000 Yeah.

05:17:50.000 Right.

05:17:50.000 If I got unmuted earlier, I was going to bring up some stats that say that gay parents, their kids end up having more problems than with married parents.

05:17:58.000 It's a little too late for that now, but... Also, someone in the chat said the kid with the Nick the Knife thing is cringe. 1.00

05:18:03.000 Dude, fuck you. 1.00

05:18:04.000 I find cool, dude. 1.00

05:18:05.000 Like, really.

05:18:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jace! 1.00

05:18:08.000 Piece of shit. 1.00

05:18:08.000 That's what you are. 1.00

05:18:10.000 Yeah, fuck you. 1.00

05:18:11.000 This guy rules. 1.00

05:18:13.000 Nick the Knife, knife guy.

05:18:14.000 Yeah, Nick the Knife.

05:18:16.000 Hell yeah.

05:18:18.000 Okay, well, I'll probably be back tomorrow or later this week.

05:18:22.000 My head hurts so bad and I'm tired.

05:18:25.000 It's been a long night.

05:18:25.000 I've been streaming since nine o'clock.

05:18:27.000 That's eight hours, okay?

05:18:28.000 Hey, one more question, Nick, before you go.

05:18:30.000 One more question.

05:18:31.000 Okay.

05:18:31.000 Do you think that you could beat Ben Shapiro in a debate, like, honestly?

05:18:35.000 Oh, 100% and easily, and he knows that.

05:18:38.000 I would so watch that.

05:18:40.000 Ben Shapiro is not smart.

05:18:41.000 He just talks fast.

05:18:42.000 You take, like, two seconds to look at his arguments.

05:18:44.000 He's, like, midwit.

05:18:46.000 Middle intellect. 0.91

05:18:49.000 And, uh, but who does he debate?

05:18:50.000 Has he debated a serious person?

05:18:52.000 He debates college kids.

05:18:53.000 Well, he debated, like, Cenk Uygur or whatever it is.

05:18:56.000 Cenk Uygur? 1.00

05:18:58.000 Okay, Cenk Uygur's a fucking idiot. 1.00

05:19:00.000 Like, he won't debate anybody serious. 1.00

05:19:03.000 But he's, like, the head of the progressive movement, though.

05:19:06.000 Like, at Young Turks. 1.00

05:19:06.000 Yeah, but he's a dipshit. 1.00

05:19:08.000 Try putting him up against somebody that actually has a brain. 1.00

05:19:11.000 But the guy, me and Ben Shapiro go way back.

05:19:14.000 Ask me about that sometime.

05:19:15.000 Me and him go back to 2017, actually.

05:19:18.000 I have a history with little Benjamin.

05:19:22.000 He's been trying to stop me for a long time.

05:19:25.000 He's gonna what?

05:19:26.000 He's gonna debate Kyle Kalinske.

05:19:28.000 Oh yeah?

05:19:29.000 Oh, well that might be a challenge.

05:19:30.000 Kyle Kalinske's pretty bright.

05:19:32.000 Did you ever watch the Kyle Kalinske-Charlie Kirk debate?

05:19:38.000 No, I tried to get in.

05:19:39.000 I was at Politicon and they blocked me from entering.

05:19:41.000 Didn't you see that?

05:19:42.000 They had like 12 security guards stop me from coming in.

05:19:45.000 They intercepted me.

05:19:46.000 I was walking to the debate room and 12 guys surrounded me and were like, you can't come into this debate.

05:19:54.000 So, I tried.

05:19:59.000 It's on YouTube though.

05:20:02.000 Yeah, I didn't see it.

05:20:03.000 I just want to know if you've seen it, who you think won.

05:20:05.000 I don't know, I thought it was pretty close.

05:20:09.000 Yeah.

05:20:11.000 We got a lot of people coming in now.

05:20:13.000 Everybody's about to leave.

05:20:16.000 Okay.

05:20:17.000 Well, we could talk more later, but I'm tired.

05:20:20.000 I gotta piss.

05:20:21.000 I gotta get on.

05:20:22.000 We'll do this again next time.

05:20:24.000 We will.

05:20:26.000 We do this a lot, so.

05:20:29.000 I'll be back.

05:20:29.000 We'll be here.

05:20:33.000 Wipers will be back.

05:20:33.000 I'm gonna send you a DM on Twitter later about some other stuff.

05:20:38.000 Excellent.

05:20:39.000 If you could respond with your feedback, I'd love that.

05:20:41.000 Got you.

05:20:42.000 I'll be looking out for it.

05:20:44.000 Yep, all right.

05:20:45.000 I'm going to bed.

05:20:46.000 My brother was texting me being mad that I was keeping him up.

05:20:49.000 So, have a good night everybody.

05:20:50.000 It was great talking to you.

05:20:51.000 Good night.

05:20:52.000 Good night, Lee Stockton.

05:20:54.000 Good night, everybody.

05:20:55.000 Good night.

05:20:57.000 Good night, my test tube buddy, Lance.

05:21:00.000 And everybody else.

05:21:02.000 Good night, Violet.

05:21:04.000 So, I'm going to unmute everybody and everybody say thank you to Nick for showing up.

05:21:08.000 For both Nick and Lance.

05:21:09.000 Say thank you, Nick.

05:21:10.000 Thank you, Nick.

05:21:12.000 Good night, everybody.

05:21:16.000 I'll see you tomorrow or maybe later, okay?

05:21:18.000 Thanks, Nick.

05:21:19.000 Alright, thanks a lot for having me.

05:21:21.000 Bye-bye.

05:21:38.000 Thanks, Nick Videos, for showing up.

05:21:41.000 Thanks, Vicente.

05:21:43.000 Thanks, Lance.

05:21:45.000 Yeah, just to be 1,000% clear, not a Groyper. 1.00

05:21:49.000 We just wanted to talk.

05:21:50.000 Yeah, we're not Groypers.

05:21:52.000 We're not Groypers.

05:21:53.000 We just wanted to talk and have a conversation.

05:21:56.000 Yeah.

05:21:57.000 I wanted to ask Nick a question, but I couldn't because you guys had muted.

05:22:01.000 I'm sad now.

05:22:03.000 Oh, well, I tried to keep on muting you, but you kept muting yourself.

05:22:06.000 Was I?

05:22:07.000 I don't know. 1.00

05:22:07.000 I don't know how to work this stupid app. 1.00

05:22:09.000 When you're on the phone and you go out of the camera, it mutes you automatically. 1.00

05:22:13.000 Okay.

05:22:16.000 Bean, what was your question?

05:22:19.000 I was gonna ask him why he keeps hanging out with gay Australian men. 0.97

05:22:26.000 I think he asked that earlier.

05:22:29.000 They asked that earlier, but we were trying to keep it civil.

05:22:33.000 Right, okay.

05:22:34.000 Yeah, we're trying to be friends.

05:22:35.000 Not really friends with everybody, but we're trying to... When we do our lives, we try to just be like, chill with everybody.

05:22:40.000 Because we had almost, what, two of the people from the Liberal Hype House in here as well, in the beginning.

05:22:48.000 Yeah.

05:22:49.000 And then someone was live streaming it with over, like, 4,000 people watching, so... Oh, yeah.

05:22:55.000 We just learned that, like, because we have the group chat, and somebody posted it on the group chat.

05:23:03.000 But thanks to everybody showing up.

05:23:04.000 I think somebody wants to talk to you, Nick.

05:23:06.000 Hold on.

05:23:08.000 Sebastian?

05:23:10.000 Hello?

05:23:10.000 Can you hear me?

05:23:11.000 Yeah.

05:23:13.000 Nick, you are so epic.

05:23:15.000 Bye.

05:23:16.000 Thanks, bro.

05:23:16.000 I appreciate you.

05:23:18.000 Oh, babe.

05:23:21.000 I think Kayla wanted to say something.

05:23:25.000 Kayla?

05:23:26.000 No, I don't really have anything to say.

05:23:29.000 OK.

05:23:32.000 Caleb?

05:23:33.000 Yeah, um, big fan.

05:23:35.000 I've been here for six hours, dude.

05:23:38.000 Wait, has this thing been going on that long?

05:23:41.000 Yeah, been here for like more than six hours.

05:23:43.000 Alright.

05:23:47.000 Let's go with...

05:24:04.000 Oh man, I can't believe how long it's been.

05:24:06.000 Thanks for coming.

05:24:09.000 No way am I sleeping today.

05:24:14.000 Thanks for coming.

05:24:14.000 Good time?

05:24:18.000 Good time.

05:24:19.000 I mean, most of it was just miserable.

05:24:24.000 But I mean, you know, it was a nice surprise.

05:24:30.000 Yeah, but... Maybe, you know, maybe next time.

05:24:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.

05:24:52.000 But isn't it for some reason, Doug?

05:24:54.000 Okay, you want me to play that?

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - April 21, 2020

Nick Fuentes on The Conservative Values Zoom Call (Part 2)

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