America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - December 02, 2019


Nick Fuentes speech at the Bettendorf Immigration Forum


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00:00:00.000 Thank you very much for that kind introduction.
00:00:01.000 I can never really tell what the intro is going to look like because you Google my name and some not nice things will come up, which we know how that is with our president.
00:00:11.000 I'm sure all of you are familiar with this.
00:00:13.000 Well, thank you so much for having me.
00:00:15.000 I think it's been a great event so far.
00:00:17.000 It's great to be in Iowa.
00:00:18.000 Last time I was in Iowa was actually for the Republican primary back in 2016, February 1st, 2016, was the Republican primary here in 2016.
00:00:29.000 So it's been a little while.
00:00:31.000 So for tonight, I'm going to talk a little bit about. illegal immigration.
00:00:36.000 This is an immigration panel and it's been a great event so far.
00:00:39.000 We've heard from the angel moms, we've heard from some candidates, we've heard a lot about illegal immigration, which to me is of course a problem.
00:00:48.000 I think we can all agree illegal immigration is an egregious and unacceptable problem in the country.
00:00:54.000 By its very nature, the people that are here don't belong.
00:00:58.000 The job of the government is to protect the people and keep undocumented people that we can't keep track of out of the country.
00:01:05.000 But I think that's only half of the problem.
00:01:08.000 I think the other half that we have to look at is the legal part of the mass immigration crisis.
00:01:14.000 Before we dive into that, just a little bit about me.
00:01:16.000 Like my introduction said, my name is Nick Flint.
00:01:20.000 I've actually been involved in a little bit of a battle within the conservative movement against the conservative establishment, which if you guys are Trump supporters, I'm sure you're all familiar with the fact that for the past 25 years, roughly speaking, we haven't just been fighting the left.
00:01:38.000 Right?
00:01:38.000 We haven't just been fighting Democrats.
00:01:40.000 I think everybody realizes if you're in the Tea Party, we supported Trump in 2016.
00:01:46.000 Some of the fiercest opposition we got wasn't from the Democrats, even.
00:01:50.000 It was from people within our own party.
00:01:52.000 It was from the rhinos, Republicans' name only, establishment types.
00:01:56.000 And so I've been facing a lot of similar things because I have been speaking out, along with a lot of other young people, against the sort of legal immigration scam.
00:02:04.000 And that's what my talk is going to be about tonight.
00:02:06.000 We're going to look at how mass immigration affects those politically.
00:02:10.000 Economically and culturally, we talk a lot about politics and economics.
00:02:15.000 The cultural aspect is really important, so we're going to get into all of that.
00:02:19.000 Before we do, though, I just want to say my speech tonight is not going to be very politically correct, a little controversial.
00:02:26.000 You might hear some things you disagree with, but of course, that's okay.
00:02:30.000 I hope you'll keep an open mind.
00:02:32.000 I like to think of myself as inspired by Patrick Buchanan.
00:02:35.000 I don't know how many of you guys are fans of Patrick Buchanan.
00:02:40.000 I'd like to think that we're sort of carrying the torch for him, America first.
00:02:44.000 In 2019.
00:02:46.000 But so to start, I think it's important to define the situation.
00:02:49.000 So, of course, we've got an illegal immigration crisis that it should be the default position of Republicans that you want to send every single illegal immigrant back over the border.
00:03:01.000 And you should want to build a wall, secure the border, you know, fully fund the $25 billion to build the border wall, maintain it, all the rest, obviously.
00:03:11.000 Because you see the crimes that are being committed by illegal immigrants, whether it be the worst crimes like murder, even small crimes.
00:03:18.000 And it's absolutely unacceptable because, again, the task of the government, the first task of the government, is to protect its people, to protect the nation.
00:03:26.000 And so people are coming in and they're committing crimes.
00:03:28.000 If that happens one time, that is a terrible tragedy.
00:03:32.000 But again, that is only one part of the equation.
00:03:35.000 What has gone on concurrently with mass illegal immigration is mass legal immigration.
00:03:42.000 And I have to say, as a conservative, I found it a little bit problematic.
00:03:45.000 We've come a long way on the issue of illegal immigration.
00:03:49.000 You know, it was a great day.
00:03:51.000 To see Donald Trump become the nominee in 2016 for the Republican Party, where we went from people like John McCain and Mitt Romney, who wanted amnesty, right, and Rubio and a number of others in the Republican primary, who wanted to give a pathway to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants, to a president that's finally going to stand up for the country and say we need a secure border.
00:04:12.000 So I thought that was a great day.
00:04:14.000 But I'll say that it's also not sufficient.
00:04:16.000 I think we have to build upon our victory and move a little bit further on immigration.
00:04:22.000 I'll tell you what I'm talking about.
00:04:24.000 So, while we do have something like, they've been saying 11 million illegal immigrants in the country for years, it's probably something like 20 million.
00:04:32.000 We don't really know.
00:04:33.000 That's the very nature of the problem.
00:04:34.000 We have no idea how many illegal immigrants are in the country.
00:04:37.000 We do know how many legal immigrants have come in since the 1965 Hart Seller Act, Immigration Act was passed almost 50 years ago.
00:04:48.000 Since the Hart Seller Act in 1965, 59 million legal immigrants have come into the country.
00:04:55.000 And a little bit about the composition of that.
00:04:57.000 47% of those immigrants are Hispanic, 26% are Asian, and a good percentage of those are Black.
00:05:06.000 Virtually a very small percentage of the legal immigration in the last 50 years has been from Europe.
00:05:11.000 Virtually all of it has been Hispanic, Asian, and Black.
00:05:15.000 And there's a very important reason for this.
00:05:17.000 And I'll get into it a little bit here when we talk about the political situation.
00:05:21.000 So the last speaker did a very good job explaining where we're headed.
00:05:25.000 If we don't get out and vote, In Iowa.
00:05:27.000 If you don't get out and campaign, I campaigned for Donald Trump in 2016, actually, in Manchester, New Hampshire.
00:05:34.000 And of course, we do face sort of an existential threat in 2020 when you see who's on the other side.
00:05:39.000 You see who's on the other side, and who's it going to be?
00:05:41.000 Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders?
00:05:43.000 And so, you know, every election they say, well, it's either us or it's the end of the world.
00:05:48.000 In this case, it feels like every election that's what we're looking at, right?
00:05:51.000 I mean, it's either Trump or it's, I mean, healthcare illegal, right?
00:05:56.000 What did Julian Castro talk about abortions for transgender people?
00:06:00.000 So, I mean, it's unacceptable that the opposition went to this one.
00:06:05.000 But we have to think bigger picture.
00:06:07.000 We have to think long term.
00:06:09.000 The reason why I'm talking about mass immigration in relation to this is to think about what the future demographics will look like for voting.
00:06:16.000 And we think very simply about what it's going to take to win in 2020.
00:06:20.000 And, you know, if you've been to the website 270 to win, I think a lot of political type people like to try and create the map.
00:06:27.000 What swing states can Trump win?
00:06:29.000 Now, I was doing this in 2016.
00:06:31.000 What's the coalition going to be?
00:06:32.000 Is it going to be Arizona and Michigan and Wisconsin?
00:06:36.000 Is Panther in play, Nevada?
00:06:38.000 But it's much more important to look at who is voting in these states, particularly in how immigration affects that.
00:06:45.000 For example, we know that California used to be a red state.
00:06:50.000 I'm 21 years old.
00:06:51.000 I don't remember that time.
00:06:53.000 It doesn't register for me.
00:06:57.000 Ronald Reagan carried the state of California four times when he was president and including when he was governor.
00:07:03.000 Richard Nixon carried California six times.
00:07:07.000 California was a deep red state.
00:07:09.000 And what changed in the last 25 years was mass immigration.
00:07:14.000 Now, of course, a lot of that was illegal.
00:07:17.000 You know, a good deal of it was legal, too.
00:07:19.000 We know that the future of California was decided by its demographics.
00:07:23.000 Its demographics was its destiny.
00:07:26.000 There was a great article recently in the LA Times.
00:07:28.000 I don't know if you saw this, but it talked about this a few weeks ago.
00:07:32.000 It talked about how Texas.
00:07:34.000 Is going to go the same way as California.
00:07:36.000 Because the same demographic trends that made California a deep red state, turned it purple, and then a deep blue state, are going to do the same thing to Texas.
00:07:46.000 What we see today is an unshakable Republican stronghold.
00:07:50.000 It will become purple and then blue.
00:07:52.000 Just take a look at the last election in 2016.
00:07:55.000 Take a look at the proportion of the vote that Beto or Ward drew because he had a fake Hispanic last name, right?
00:08:01.000 Or fake Hispanic first name, I should say.
00:08:04.000 In that article, they talked about breaking down how the different racial demographics were voting in California.
00:08:10.000 No, exactly showing mathematically how it got from a red California to a reliably deep blue California.
00:08:17.000 If you break it down by race, You'll find that only 15% of Hispanics are registered Republicans in the state of California.
00:08:26.000 15%.
00:08:28.000 According to Pew Research, one in 10 legal Hispanic immigrants register Republican.
00:08:34.000 One in 20 illegal immigrants identify as Republican.
00:08:38.000 They don't register, but that's how they identify.
00:08:40.000 If you look at Asians, only 18% of Asians are registered Republicans in California.
00:08:46.000 If you look at blacks, 72% of blacks are registered Democrats.
00:08:52.000 In the last election, you know, this is not just California, this is not just likely voting or predictive polling.
00:08:59.000 In the last election, exit polls showed that blacks voted 91% for Democrats.
00:09:05.000 So we can see that there's a very close, you could say almost a one to one relationship between racial demographics and the political electoral outcome.
00:09:15.000 We see how if you bring in 59 million immigrants in 50 years from virtually all non white countries and they come into states like Texas and Arizona, In Georgia, in Florida.
00:09:28.000 It doesn't take a big imagination to figure out what's going to happen next.
00:09:33.000 And every state from the Southwest to the Southeast to the Northwest will begin to fall blue.
00:09:39.000 And that is a result of demographic change.
00:09:42.000 And it's interesting because a lot of people frame this election, I hear this a lot from the conservative right, which I think is a mistake, as it's socialism versus capitalism.
00:09:52.000 And I'll tell you why I think that's probably an improper frame.
00:09:56.000 The focus to me is immigration and demographic change.
00:10:00.000 If you don't oppose legal immigration and demographic change, what do you think you get ultimately when all these states turn blue?
00:10:07.000 When Texas turns blue, Florida, Georgia, and they're all drifting that way, what is the inevitable outcome?
00:10:13.000 Socialism.
00:10:14.000 Exactly right.
00:10:15.000 The country goes Democratic.
00:10:16.000 It becomes nearly impossible for Republicans to be competitive in national elections.
00:10:21.000 And the end result is socialism.
00:10:23.000 So the way that I see it, you cannot oppose legal immigration and oppose socialism.
00:10:28.000 And you get socialism.
00:10:30.000 Or you can oppose legal immigration and socialism, and probably you've got the best chance of staving it off.
00:10:35.000 So I think of politically, the term that I use on my show and the term that I've been hearing is the electoral winter, that there will be a great freezing effect that will set in.
00:10:45.000 Once the demographics become such, after the Democrats have imported a new constituency, because they couldn't win over people in this country, they imported new voters who would obediently and blindly vote for big government and identity politics and all this.
00:11:01.000 Once that happens, it'll be nearly impossible to reverse.
00:11:04.000 Why would these different groups vote against Democrats when they get all the big government handouts, when they get all the pandering from the left?
00:11:12.000 So I think to me, the first major consequence of mass legal immigration, this demographic change, is an electoral consequence.
00:11:20.000 So, you know, the rest of the speech, if that's not resonating with you, you have to think just from a purely partisan perspective that it will be fatal for the Republican Party that this demographic change sets in.
00:11:32.000 The second part is economic, why we should be against legal immigration.
00:11:37.000 What I've heard from across the board, Republican and Democrat, is that legal immigration is a great boon to the economy.
00:11:45.000 This is what we hear from everybody all the time.
00:11:47.000 Illegal immigration, we understand the obvious problems, namely that it's illegal.
00:11:52.000 But when we hear about legal immigration, we hear that so long as the immigrants are qualified, right, if they're getting jobs, if they're not on government assistance, well, they're boosting up the economy.
00:12:01.000 That's what America is all about.
00:12:03.000 It's people coming here and starting businesses.
00:12:06.000 We're a nation of immigrants and everything.
00:12:08.000 But if you run the numbers, mass legal immigration is toxic.
00:12:12.000 It's fatal for the economy and for the American worker.
00:12:17.000 If you read the book, it's a fantastic book that I recommend to everybody.
00:12:20.000 It's called We Wanted Workers by George Borjas.
00:12:23.000 George Borjas is one of the top immigration economists in the country.
00:12:27.000 He's from Harvard University.
00:12:29.000 He's actually, I believe, a Cuban immigrant himself.
00:12:32.000 So take that for what you will.
00:12:34.000 He broke down all the numbers on immigration economics and how this drastic wave of immigrants has affected the economy.
00:12:42.000 And he found that the long-term fiscal impact, the long-term fiscal impact for an average immigrant was $119,000.
00:12:52.000 It costs on average $119,000 per immigrant from the government.
00:12:58.000 When you look at public housing, when you look at welfare, Medicare, Social Security, the long term costs $120,000.
00:13:05.000 So think about it 59 million immigrants in 50 years at a cost of $120,000 on average per head.
00:13:15.000 The math is mind boggling.
00:13:18.000 But it doesn't just stop with welfare payments.
00:13:20.000 We all know that that seems to be a problem.
00:13:22.000 We find that immigrant households Take welfare at a much higher percentage than native households.
00:13:27.000 But it expands even to the rest of the economy, to the GDP.
00:13:31.000 People say that, well, if immigrants are not taking public assistance, well, they're starting jobs, right?
00:13:36.000 Or they're starting businesses and they're creating jobs.
00:13:39.000 George Borhaus found that the short run surplus of mass immigration, in other words, the economic benefit that accrued to the economy as a result of immigration, was valued at $2 trillion.
00:13:50.000 So the GDP went up by $2 trillion because of mass immigration.
00:13:56.000 He found that out of that $2 trillion, Only $50 billion of that GDP short run surplus accrued to Native Americans.
00:14:06.000 In other words, $2 trillion.
00:14:08.000 So, you know, I think that's a pretty big number.
00:14:11.000 Out of that, virtually all of that money, all of that economic benefit, went to the immigrants themselves.
00:14:18.000 In other words, they come here, they start jobs, they start businesses, and on paper, the economy grows.
00:14:24.000 But if you're bringing over more people and the economy grows commensurate to how many people you're bringing in, is there any real economic growth?
00:14:32.000 Moreover, The $50 billion surplus that accrues to Americans is only one part of the story.
00:14:38.000 There's a very telling line in this book by George Borjas.
00:14:41.000 He said that immigration redistributes wealth from the people who compete with immigrants to the firms that employ immigrants.
00:14:50.000 Think about it like this, right?
00:14:52.000 So the $50 billion surplus is a result of a mathematical equation.
00:14:57.000 All this money accrues to big businesses that employ immigrants.
00:15:02.000 All that money goes to big agriculture.
00:15:04.000 It goes to All the people that are the beneficiary of cheap labor coming across the border.
00:15:09.000 Now, that number barely edges out, $50 billion more than the net cost, trillions of dollars that comes at the cost of the American worker.
00:15:19.000 Now, where do you think that $2 trillion surplus, the $50 billion we get off the top, where do you think that comes from?
00:15:25.000 That comes from the native workers.
00:15:27.000 It's a very simple economic calculation.
00:15:29.000 Immigrants in the labor market are not immune from the laws of supply and demand.
00:15:34.000 If we have so many workers in the country, we bring in a lot more.
00:15:38.000 Well, then businesses are willing to pay less for it.
00:15:41.000 Is it any wonder why wages have been stagnant for 25 years?
00:15:45.000 It's because for 25 years and even longer, the spigot of immigration has been just pouring more workers into the labor market.
00:15:53.000 Every chance where maybe the American worker can get back on their feet, where maybe businesses would have to compete for limited American jobs by raising wages, by offering more benefits, more immigrants pour into the country, allowing businesses and firms to take less wages, to offer less wages.
00:16:10.000 More workers and they get paid less for it.
00:16:13.000 To me, the economic picture for immigration is equally as grim.
00:16:17.000 Lastly, and to me, this is the most important part, is this.
00:16:20.000 I get asked this a lot from my show and in my battle against the conservative establishment.
00:16:26.000 People say things like, well, of course there are immigrants that vote Republican, right?
00:16:31.000 Just to say that long term demographic changes are manipulating electoral outcomes doesn't mean that there's no Republican immigrants, right?
00:16:41.000 There's no Republican non white voters.
00:16:43.000 And people say, well, there are immigrants that are contributing to the GDP.
00:16:46.000 There are immigrants that are.
00:16:47.000 creating businesses and so on.
00:16:49.000 And so the question is, well, what if every immigrant is coming over and voting Republican?
00:16:53.000 What if every immigrant was coming over and they were starting businesses and they were the model citizen?
00:16:58.000 And I think about it like this.
00:17:00.000 Would it still be America, even if all of those things were true?
00:17:05.000 If the foreign born population surges, as we've seen in the last 50 years, to record highs, some say it could get as high as 50% in the next century, the foreign born population, would you say that even if those people are voting Republican, Even if they're buying Reeboks and Nikes and they're watching Netflix, even if they're starting businesses and model citizens, would we say that qualitatively it would still be a recognizable country?
00:17:30.000 Would it look the same as it did 50 years ago?
00:17:32.000 No.
00:17:33.000 To me, I think about it like this.
00:17:35.000 A country is only comprised of the people in it.
00:17:39.000 When we say demographics is destiny, what does that mean?
00:17:42.000 Demographics means the people that are comprised in the country.
00:17:46.000 The people are the country.
00:17:48.000 If the constituent parts are different, The whole is different.
00:17:53.000 If we change the Americans living in America, America will be changed.
00:17:58.000 If those changes are significant to the people living in this country, America will be significantly different.
00:18:04.000 And that's not necessarily making a value judgment.
00:18:06.000 Of course, I have my own opinion about it.
00:18:09.000 But it is to say that these demographic changes, which we're being led to believe are innocuous, are harmless, are insignificant, are actually quite drastic and will change the quality and the texture of our lives and the lives of our children and our children's children throughout the generations.
00:18:26.000 Think about it like this.
00:18:28.000 If you're baking a cake or you're baking cookies or following some kind of a recipe, would you say that you would get the same cake or the same cookie if you had different ingredients?
00:18:38.000 If you had baking soda instead of baking powder?
00:18:40.000 Of course not.
00:18:41.000 If you changed up the ingredients to a recipe, you would get a different outcome.
00:18:45.000 You would get a different cake, you would get a different cookie.
00:18:49.000 Why would it be any different for a nation?
00:18:51.000 If the country was comprised of people from the time of the founding who were English settlers and then European immigrants, And now you look at what's happening in the Southwest, and I think you see it's the Hispanization, right?
00:19:03.000 It's turning into Mexico based in the Southwest.
00:19:06.000 How can you take different people and move them into the country and not get a different country?
00:19:12.000 To me, I think a lot about the fact that in the next 20 to 30 years, white people will become a minority in America.
00:19:20.000 Nobody likes to talk about that.
00:19:22.000 Nobody likes to mention that.
00:19:23.000 People don't like to talk about race.
00:19:25.000 Now, why not?
00:19:26.000 Do you think that that will be a significant or an insignificant change?
00:19:30.000 To me, that's the first question.
00:19:32.000 Will it be something that is a meaningful change when white people go from being a majority to a minority?
00:19:38.000 Will that be inconsequential?
00:19:39.000 Will that be arbitrary?
00:19:41.000 Will that bring trivial differences?
00:19:44.000 Will it bring differences even at all?
00:19:46.000 Or will there be drastic consequences, drastic changes that we can witness?
00:19:50.000 And then the question becomes, will those changes be good or will they be bad?
00:19:54.000 I live in a suburb of Chicago.
00:19:56.000 I can tell you, I drive into neighborhoods like Little Village and Pilsen, and I can see the demographic changes.
00:20:02.000 I can see what it looks like to be a minority in a place like Pilsen or Chicago.
00:20:06.000 You can travel to Los Angeles or San Francisco.
00:20:09.000 In Los Angeles, the population is 35% white.
00:20:12.000 You can see what it's going to look like.
00:20:14.000 It's like looking into a crystal ball of what the future will be like.
00:20:17.000 And you can see that number one, the changes brought on by demographic change are real and they're not inconsequential.
00:20:23.000 And number two, if we really investigate, the differences are not good.
00:20:28.000 And these are tough topics.
00:20:29.000 A lot of people don't like to think like this.
00:20:30.000 A lot of people don't like to think about race.
00:20:33.000 But this is a reality that we're having to deal with as a result of mass demographic change.
00:20:38.000 The mantra that we've been pushed is that diversity is a strength.
00:20:42.000 Bringing in people who speak different languages, believe in different gods, come from different countries, That's supposed to make the country stronger.
00:20:50.000 I simply ask the question how is that the case?
00:20:55.000 In what situation, in what organization, what hierarchy, whether it be a business or the military or neighborhood or anything like that, if you're simply doing a project in high school, it's a group project, what aids the end goal?
00:21:11.000 What helps in the process by having people that believe in diametrically different things, in many cases are opposed to one another?
00:21:19.000 There's friction, there's cultural differences, different mannerisms clashing all the time.
00:21:24.000 I ask, what about that makes the country stronger?
00:21:27.000 What helps us do great things like get to Mars, build up the great American economy, build up our infrastructure?
00:21:33.000 I don't see how it happens.
00:21:35.000 And so to me, and I know I'm not sure where the audience is on this question.
00:21:39.000 I know this is, like I said, not very politically correct stuff.
00:21:43.000 But I know that when I look at the situation, I cannot in good conscience support mass immigration, both legal and illegal.
00:21:51.000 When I think about my future children or their children, I can't look around at my suburb in southwest Chicago and in good conscience support a policy that's going to turn it into the south side of Chicago or the west side of Chicago.
00:22:04.000 And to me, I just hope that everybody keeps that in mind.
00:22:07.000 Of course, we are heading into an election year with Donald Trump.
00:22:10.000 I think Donald Trump is on the same page with a lot of this stuff.
00:22:13.000 I think he started the conversation about immigration in 2016.
00:22:17.000 You know, for 25 and maybe even longer, 25 years and maybe even longer, the conversation about immigration has been basically the same.
00:22:25.000 There can be no opposition to immigration.
00:22:26.000 There can only be people that prefer different kinds of immigrants.
00:22:30.000 And I'm simply posing questions about whether that's such a good idea at all.
00:22:34.000 But thanks so much.
00:22:35.000 Again, the message we've been trying to push out here, even if people don't agree, that's okay.
00:22:40.000 I think we've left a little bit of time for QA.
00:22:43.000 So we'll see if people are interested in that.
00:22:46.000 But of course, the message here tonight has been we are trying to get out there and volunteer for Trump.
00:22:50.000 Of course, illegal immigration will continue.
00:22:53.000 Forget legal immigration.
00:22:54.000 Illegal immigration will continue if we don't get Donald Trump back in office.
00:22:57.000 So thank you so much.
00:22:59.000 Let's make America great.
00:23:11.000 Are there any people that have questions?
00:23:16.000 My husband is from France.
00:23:18.000 I think the lady is old.
00:23:19.000 I think mine's pumping you up.
00:23:24.000 Very good.
00:23:25.000 We, just a few years ago, had to go live in France because we got branched from there.
00:23:33.000 And so I, as an American, had to immigrate into France.
00:23:38.000 And it's, well, we've been married over 30 years, and we'll tell you that.
00:23:44.000 Through the mill, they give you a medical exam.
00:23:51.000 They want to make sure that you speak French just to give me a visa to stay.
00:23:58.000 If we try to get in the U.S., I really believe everybody is better off if they speak English.
00:24:07.000 I think it's wonderful if they speak another language, but they should really speak English.
00:24:13.000 It's the language of And so, yet, I'm afraid we go and say, English has to be, you know, we want English to be the official language of the United States.
00:24:28.000 Oh my gosh, it's going to be all racist.
00:24:30.000 Do you have any thoughts on that?
00:24:33.000 Yeah, no, I mean, and then that's getting at, I think, fundamentally the idea of cohesion.
00:24:38.000 As a nation, a country, a neighborhood, you want to have cohesion, you want to have things in common with your neighbors.
00:24:45.000 That's natural.
00:24:46.000 You know, and everybody says that if you start to talk about these concentric circles of identity, that we want to have things in common with one another, that makes you racist or exclusionary.
00:24:55.000 I think that's totally right.
00:24:56.000 And it's interesting.
00:24:57.000 They had all kinds of ballot measures throughout the 1990s English only, you must speak English, English only schools and everything.
00:25:05.000 You can't find a single one where Americans voted against that.
00:25:08.000 But in spite of that, we never see it in laws.
00:25:10.000 And that's because big businesses know that if they made that requirement, they couldn't afford cheap labor because that's coming from Mexico, right?
00:25:16.000 Or it's coming from Asia.
00:25:17.000 So that's a great point.
00:25:21.000 Yes.
00:25:22.000 With regards to illegal immigration and what you were talking about, the actual cost of social programs and so forth, I think it's Milton Friedman who said it, and maybe he's quoting somebody, that if you don't put a wall around your country, then you have to put a wall around your benefits programs.
00:25:38.000 And so how do we get that shift?
00:25:40.000 And secondly, how do we get these people into our society thinking the way Americans always thought before to understand the value of the American dream to be contributors and not users?
00:25:54.000 That's a great question and a great point, too.
00:25:56.000 And that's even libertarians have a tough time with this.
00:25:59.000 No free course of libertarian.
00:26:01.000 A lot of libertarians, like Justin Amash and others, are open borders advocates.
00:26:05.000 You know, they want mass movements of goods and mass movements of people.
00:26:09.000 And that's exactly the problem.
00:26:11.000 We have a welfare state, we're giving out free money.
00:26:14.000 It doesn't really work when you also have an open invite to anybody in the world who wants to come here.
00:26:18.000 It just doesn't make any crystal sense.
00:26:20.000 So I think that's a great point.
00:26:22.000 I mean, you know, the problem is that.
00:26:24.000 The Congress is so controlled by the Chamber of Commerce and all the interests that want these people here.
00:26:30.000 I mean, who do you think gives the money for the political campaigns?
00:26:33.000 It's big business, big business that benefits from cheap labor.
00:26:37.000 And the question about assimilation, essentially, how do we assimilate the immigrants here?
00:26:41.000 I'll tell you, there's not any easy answers.
00:26:43.000 You know, what used to be the case 100 years ago is that there was pressure to assimilate.
00:26:48.000 You had to learn English.
00:26:50.000 I'm fourth generation.
00:26:52.000 My ancestors are Italian, Mexican, and Irish.
00:26:54.000 When they came here, they had to learn the language.
00:26:56.000 There was no, my mother works in a school.
00:26:59.000 And a lot of these classrooms, they pander these kids and they speak Spanish exclusively right up through to middle school.
00:27:04.000 How can you assimilate when there's no dominant culture?
00:27:07.000 It's saying that the language must be English and these are our values and this is the religion.
00:27:11.000 Now you get called a racist or a white supremacist if you say that American culture is this and it's not Spanish and it's not, you know, whatever other kinds of cultures are coming over here.
00:27:22.000 So I think it's a very difficult question when we're in the middle of a culture war.
00:27:25.000 We don't have a monoculture even for people to assimilate into.
00:27:29.000 Thank you.
00:27:30.000 One more question and then we're going to wrap up for tonight.
00:27:36.000 Okay.
00:27:36.000 One thing that I've noticed, I was in Iowa and If you understand the air traffic control and the pilots all speak English.
00:27:45.000 And the reason they do is that you might have airplanes falling out of the sky if you don't understand what people are doing.
00:27:55.000 But one thing I want, I've never been a big fan of diversity training.
00:27:59.000 I always felt that maybe we should be doing similarity training based upon Maslow's harmony.
00:28:06.000 And if I look at the Hispanic culture, they're big on family.
00:28:10.000 They tend to be Roman Catholic, which at least they used to be pro life.
00:28:16.000 I'm not sure where they are these days.
00:28:20.000 But wouldn't it be smart to take a look at the similarities that we all share that we want to make sure that we have economic prosperity, that we've got a family culture, that we're safe?
00:28:32.000 The whole Maslow part of the argument, please.
00:28:35.000 How would you answer it?
00:28:36.000 That's a great question.
00:28:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I'll address the first part.
00:28:40.000 I happen to be a quarter Mexican, my father's half Mexican.
00:28:44.000 A lot of people sound like racist for my immigration beliefs.
00:28:47.000 Like, racist against who?
00:28:49.000 I'm Mexican.
00:28:51.000 But that, I mean, that was the perception, right, for so long is that Mexicans are these natural conservatives.
00:28:57.000 I think that was the language used by Paul Ryan, that all these immigrants who were supposed to come here, George W. Bush led in 8 million immigrants in five years with the intention that they were all supposed to vote Republican, I guess, right?
00:29:09.000 And he was going to ride that to reelection.
00:29:11.000 And I guess Dick Cheney was going to be president after him and so on.
00:29:15.000 But we found that that's not the case.
00:29:17.000 We found that.
00:29:18.000 You know, all these supposedly pro family, natural conservative Hispanics, they have never in this century voted more than 35% for a Republican candidate for president.
00:29:26.000 Never more than 35%.
00:29:29.000 Now, they're voting for who?
00:29:30.000 The Democrats who are in favor of late term abortions and homosexuality and transgender rights and everything else.
00:29:37.000 You know, so I think we have to grapple with this fact that there is significant already balkanization in America.
00:29:43.000 Maybe, like you said, I think there is something to say about back in the day, it used to be different.
00:29:49.000 Where the black community was very traditional, very Christian, very family oriented.
00:29:53.000 Hispanics were the same way.
00:29:55.000 But this new generation that we're getting, specifically from immigrants and militants, we know that they're being radicalized by the media, by the university system, with a lot of this cultural Marxist kind of stuff.
00:30:05.000 That now you look at a lot of these communities, and almost all these young people have a chip on their shoulder against the historic American nation.
00:30:13.000 They say that the founding fathers were slave owners.
00:30:15.000 Christopher Columbus Day was just a couple months ago, and we can't celebrate that because he was genocidal and so on.
00:30:22.000 So, I absolutely agree.
00:30:24.000 We should try and focus on what the differences are.
00:30:27.000 But I think, unless and until we shut down the immigration and acknowledge that there is an American monoculture, because that's the question is, if you look at the Democrats, they don't even agree on these fundamental things.
00:30:38.000 The Democrats are not a Christian party.
00:30:40.000 They don't speak English.
00:30:41.000 They don't believe in European culture, European values, or white American values, anything like that.
00:30:47.000 They have people like Sadiq Khan and all these characters, I'm sorry, Kisra Khan, at the last Democratic National Convention.
00:30:55.000 So, I would say that the task first is to shut down the immigration, people pouring in that have no chance of assimilating, and then we have to establish a monoculture for people to assimilate into.
00:31:04.000 But until we do those two things, I think it's honestly a folly.
00:31:10.000 All right, well, thank you so much.
00:31:18.000 Once again, I want to thank all our wonderful speakers for traveling with the class.