America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Nick Fuentes vs. Atheism is Unstoppable

00:00:06.000 What is going on, everyone?

00:00:08.000 Welcome to yet another Worski Live.

00:00:12.000 How are you all doing?

00:00:14.000 I'm here joined with, of course, JF.

00:00:17.000 What's up, JF?

00:00:19.000 Andy, there's something I really want to tell you, but I'm not sure how to go at it.

00:00:24.000 I'm just going to go the way it comes out.

00:00:27.000 Is it okay with you?

00:00:29.000 No, but yeah, sure.

00:00:30.000 Go ahead.

00:00:30.000 I mean, you're going to do it anyway, so whatever.

00:00:33.000 Let me just concentrate.

00:00:37.000 Andy, this is April 10th.

00:00:40.000 We are on Warski Live.

00:00:42.000 Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress.

00:00:46.000 Ronda Razzi just silences the haters in one of the greatest WWE debuts in history.

00:00:54.000 You are listening to JF on Warski Live.

00:01:00.000 That was it.

00:01:00.000 Is that a thing now?

00:01:03.000 Is that a thing we're going to be doing?

00:01:05.000 That we're going to start and then go with all the main news events and then start the show?

00:01:11.000 I think we should because we have a big fan of MMA.

00:01:14.000 And I was watching this Ronda Razzi performance on WrestleMania and I wondered what is ARU thinking about Ronda Razzi, the MMA star in wrestling?

00:01:29.000 Ah, interesting.

00:01:31.000 I did watch that actually.

00:01:32.000 I did watch her match.

00:01:33.000 And it's the first time I saw wrestling since I was a child, basically.

00:01:37.000 I'm actually astonished at how popular it is.

00:01:40.000 Like, grown people watch that today.

00:01:42.000 And I thought she did really well. 0.94

00:01:44.000 She looked hot, which is, you know, first and foremost, that's what, you know, it's like checkmate, basically.

00:01:50.000 You look hot, you're on TV, people are looking at you, well done. 1.00

00:01:52.000 She's making all sorts of money.

00:01:53.000 I have nothing bad to say about her. 1.00

00:01:57.000 But in terms of her MMA stuff, I mean, she is very cowardly, and her handling of her two losses was basically shameful. 0.99

00:02:04.000 She could easily make millions more in MMA, but she's just not, she's chosen to not do that.

00:02:10.000 Yeah, I think she's hit a wall in MMA that she could have surpassed because when you look at it, the division was very strong in striking when she had her losses. 0.97

00:02:19.000 But if she was back, there could be a way for her to make her wrestling dominant again. 0.97

00:02:25.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:02:25.000 I mean, she didn't even barely try to take down Amanda Nunez. 1.00

00:02:28.000 She tried to strike with her because she has this Armenian striking coach, boxing coach, who told her and convinced her that she can strike with elite strikers. 0.99

00:02:37.000 And she can't, but she can arm bar them.

00:02:41.000 So, yeah, it's kind of a frustrating thing to see her leave.

00:02:44.000 But I wish her well.

00:02:45.000 I have no hatred for Ronda Rousey.

00:02:48.000 Nick, are you a fan of wrestling?

00:02:48.000 Excellent.

00:02:50.000 I am.

00:02:51.000 I'm a big fan.

00:02:52.000 I don't watch it anymore.

00:02:53.000 I haven't watched it since I was in middle school.

00:02:56.000 But I heard people were very disappointed about the main event. 0.99

00:03:00.000 I never watched the Diva fights, and it's just stupid of me.

00:03:04.000 But I heard the main event was a big disappointment. 0.89

00:03:07.000 People were very upset with Roman Reigns versus Brock Lesnar.

00:03:11.000 But what else happened?

00:03:13.000 I forget.

00:03:13.000 But I didn't watch it or anything.

00:03:16.000 All right.

00:03:18.000 Andy, how are you doing?

00:03:20.000 I'm doing fantastic. 0.94

00:03:22.000 I'm eagerly awaiting this debate or conversation or whatever the fuck this is. 0.95

00:03:31.000 Because AIU, who I'm a big fan of, who makes fun of me consistently about my stutter, even though I don't stutter anymore, he says. 0.97

00:03:41.000 Yes.

00:03:41.000 Yeah.

00:03:42.000 Are you upset about that, by the way?

00:03:45.000 It's disappointing.

00:03:46.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:03:47.000 I could make fun of you about other things, but I agree with you on most things.

00:03:51.000 You know, it's, I don't, I'm not looking for enemies.

00:03:53.000 That's why it's so funny.

00:03:54.000 Like, debate someone, have an enemy.

00:03:56.000 Look at this guy, Nick Fuentes.

00:03:58.000 Who could hate this guy?

00:03:59.000 I love this guy.

00:04:01.000 Look at him.

00:04:01.000 Look at how he's dressed.

00:04:02.000 Look at that haircut.

00:04:04.000 I want one for myself.

00:04:05.000 I want to put him in my pocket and pinch his cheeks.

00:04:10.000 There's no way this guy could say something.

00:04:11.000 I'm not going to hate him at the end of this. 0.82

00:04:14.000 Wow, white pilling.

00:04:15.000 White pilling.

00:04:16.000 Nick, will you pull out a knife during this one?

00:04:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:20.000 Well, hey, if we're already going to do it, we've got to have Nick Knife Nation represent.

00:04:26.000 Get your knives out, everybody.

00:04:28.000 Raise your knives for another powerful debate by Nick the Knife. 1.00

00:04:32.000 We're going to slash you up. 0.99

00:04:33.000 You said some nice things, but. 1.00

00:04:36.000 You just walked into a knife fight.

00:04:38.000 What do you do with the little string at the bottom of that?

00:04:40.000 Do you attach that to your belt?

00:04:41.000 Yeah, this is to make sure it doesn't fly off.

00:04:45.000 Oh, it's like the Wii.

00:04:48.000 That's right.

00:04:48.000 Yeah, so it doesn't fly off your television.

00:04:50.000 It's like a child safety thing.

00:04:55.000 That's right.

00:04:57.000 Safety first.

00:04:59.000 Yeah.

00:04:59.000 All right.

00:05:00.000 So today's debate I heard is about guns.

00:05:03.000 And so I assume that everyone is familiar with the classical arguments for gun control and against.

00:05:10.000 It seems undoubtable to me that the fact of having guns, the fact that there are guns that are so easily obtainable in America, does cause us death.

00:05:21.000 And so I'd like to start the debate by asking simply our two guests do you recognize the factual causal role of guns and the fact that guns are legal and easily obtainable in the US as causing death?

00:05:35.000 No.

00:05:38.000 I don't.

00:05:41.000 Here we go.

00:05:42.000 I don't think.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:05:45.000 Oh, no, no.

00:05:46.000 I'm just, I'm amused.

00:05:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:48.000 No, I don't think there is a causal role between the availability of firearms and death.

00:05:54.000 I think actually, in many cases, and John Watt Jr., who's a statistician, he makes this case that actually, the more guns you have, the less crime there is because guns, in many cases, act as a deterrent.

00:06:06.000 So I would not agree with that.

00:06:09.000 Oh, my God.

00:06:10.000 That's the starting point.

00:06:12.000 Wow.

00:06:14.000 First of all, Andy and JF, are you guys on record with your gun stance?

00:06:19.000 I don't know where you stand.

00:06:22.000 I, uh, go ahead, JF.

00:06:23.000 Go ahead, Andy.

00:06:24.000 Well, how I see it with the states is I feel as if there's too many weapons out there to just put a stop on it now.

00:06:34.000 And if you do and take arms away from citizens who are obtaining them legally, now the only people who will have them in the states is criminals, right?

00:06:46.000 While I prefer no weapons, um, Like, since they've had them forever, you're going to have people who have like illegal firearms and all that stuff and who'll be using them to rob people and do all that stuff.

00:06:59.000 So, I think it's too late, in my opinion.

00:07:03.000 And, Andy, we have a super chat from Edwin Griffiths, five pounds says, Consider this a payment for simply not having Kevin Logan on the show.

00:07:11.000 I told you those big corporate decisions we make, and they pay off in the end.

00:07:16.000 Luffy Ace, five dollar US.

00:07:18.000 Jared Taylor wasn't born in America.

00:07:20.000 Why does he get an opinion on American matters? 0.99

00:07:24.000 Damn double standards. 0.98

00:07:25.000 But to answer AIU's question on guns, I am not probably not on record yet fully, but my position is full liberty for ownership of guns. 0.98

00:07:36.000 I'm totally for the American style gun liberties.

00:07:41.000 My man JF coming in close.

00:07:45.000 It's not that surprising. 0.94

00:07:45.000 If you're in favor of an ethnostate, you're probably going to need a few guns along the way. 0.94

00:07:55.000 Well, I mean, it is very interesting. 0.99

00:07:57.000 I asked myself, how did I get here?

00:07:59.000 Why am I here?

00:08:00.000 What the hell?

00:08:01.000 I'm walking into enemy territory. 0.94

00:08:03.000 The chat, your viewership, undoubtedly 90 something percent in favor of guns.

00:08:09.000 And it's very strange being an advocate for something that I feel is so obvious and sensible and that the rest of the modern world has basically figured out.

00:08:18.000 But if we're not going to agree on the reality that more guns equals more death, or at least can you acknowledge more gun death?

00:08:27.000 I mean, let's start there.

00:08:29.000 Perhaps.

00:08:30.000 I think it depends on the circumstance.

00:08:33.000 Well, here, I mean, look, if you.

00:08:34.000 Because here's the problem.

00:08:36.000 Here's the problem.

00:08:38.000 If we're talking about an abstraction where we're talking about a standard position and we're able to get rid of all the guns, if there were no guns, obviously there'd be no gun crime.

00:08:49.000 But I think that once we start to factor in lived reality, then I think any kind of gun control making it less easy for legal, law abiding citizens to purchase firearms, I think you could actually get more gun crime, specifically in the United States because of the sheer amount of guns that are in this country.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, I think there's multiple different problems that you're addressing there.

00:09:14.000 And I think a lot of these conversations get really confusing and people talk past each other and they just sort of, I don't know, it's not very clear as to where the disagreements are.

00:09:26.000 I guess we have to take another step back.

00:09:27.000 Are you guys against murder?

00:09:29.000 Are you trying to limit the number of human beings that die?

00:09:32.000 Of course.

00:09:34.000 Okay.

00:09:35.000 So that, yeah, okay, that's good.

00:09:37.000 I mean, to say that more guns don't lead to more gun deaths is like saying, More peanut butter doesn't lead to more peanut butter consumption.

00:09:44.000 It's just so obvious that if you're not going to grant that, what is the point of talking about anything else? 0.67

00:09:52.000 Well, I mean, here's a good number for that.

00:09:55.000 In Australia, after the 1996 National Firearms Agreement was passed, although the rate of gun deaths decreased, or it was decreasing, I think it was actually the rate of homicides.

00:10:09.000 Although the rate of homicides decreased after that, it had been decreasing for 10 years.

00:10:14.000 And the rate, At which it decreased, actually slowed down.

00:10:17.000 In the UK, after they banned guns, the murder rate actually increased.

00:10:22.000 In the UK, they had gun control in 97.

00:10:24.000 The murder rate increased from 11.5 to 18 in 2003. 0.87

00:10:29.000 Very interesting. 0.55

00:10:30.000 Here come the stat parade.

00:10:31.000 But those are cherry picked stats, and there are hundreds of examples where less guns equals less gun deaths.

00:10:38.000 Well, the countries I've lived in, for starters, I mean, this is so.

00:10:44.000 Oh, God, it's painfully obvious.

00:10:45.000 Anybody could Google this.

00:10:46.000 Oh, come on.

00:10:48.000 In England, in Germany.

00:10:49.000 In Japan, in Australia, there's a lot of guns.

00:10:53.000 I just told you in the UK, the gun deaths didn't go up, but homicides went up almost like that.

00:11:00.000 There's less homicides in all of the places where there's less guns.

00:11:03.000 This is a known fact.

00:11:04.000 Okay, but after the actual gun control went into effect in 1996 in the UK, the murder rate went up.

00:11:12.000 So that's actually not true.

00:11:13.000 Eventually it came down, but it went up for the first seven years.

00:11:17.000 You're looking at a microcosm.

00:11:18.000 You're looking at a slight little tick up.

00:11:21.000 You're attributing that to the gun control measures?

00:11:23.000 It went from 11 to 18.

00:11:24.000 I'm saying the causal relationship.

00:11:26.000 You can't establish a causal relationship.

00:11:29.000 Gun control means less guns, and less guns means less murders.

00:11:32.000 That would have it that after gun control went into effect, you would have a decrease in the homicide rate.

00:11:36.000 But actually, the homicide went up from 11 to 18.

00:11:40.000 I mean, it went up by what is that, like 50%?

00:11:43.000 There's no causal relationship there.

00:11:45.000 You can tell me that up is down all you want, and you could zoom into some little pocket of the world.

00:11:51.000 And during this time span, the rates went up and they fluctuated for a second.

00:11:55.000 It's so obvious that countries where there are less guns have less gun deaths.

00:12:00.000 Are you refuting that?

00:12:01.000 Or do you deny that?

00:12:03.000 I'm showing you.

00:12:03.000 This is very strange.

00:12:04.000 You started out from the axiom that we want less murders, right?

00:12:08.000 Yes, yes.

00:12:09.000 You're trying to create a causal relationship that less guns, and the way that we achieve less guns is through gun control.

00:12:16.000 That would create less murder.

00:12:18.000 If you're against murder, you would say that you want less guns because there's a causal relationship.

00:12:23.000 And I just told you that in a cherry pick, I picked.

00:12:26.000 The two best examples that are used most frequently, as you've lived, England and Australia, were in the UK, the homicide went up for seven years.

00:12:35.000 I mean, that wasn't a brief time.

00:12:36.000 It was seven years, and it was a significant increase.

00:12:39.000 It took another three for it to go back up.

00:12:41.000 And in Australia, the rate at which homicides had been decreasing went down after gun.

00:12:46.000 You're talking about rates.

00:12:47.000 We now actually have the same amount.

00:12:49.000 Go ahead.

00:12:50.000 You're talking about rates and stuff.

00:12:52.000 This is big picture.

00:12:53.000 England, Australia, Germany, Japan have less guns.

00:12:56.000 They have less gun deaths, obviously, and less murder.

00:13:00.000 This is very easy to figure out.

00:13:02.000 I don't even understand why you would draw your defensive position at, oh no, more guns doesn't equal more death.

00:13:09.000 And what's so crazy to me is that the gun supporters take it the next step.

00:13:14.000 It's not that they're just denying that more guns equal more gun death and more murder, which is blatantly obvious looking at the stats.

00:13:21.000 It's that they say more guns equals less death.

00:13:24.000 It's like the bigger the lie, I don't know, the easier it is to convince someone of.

00:13:28.000 Is that what you're going for?

00:13:29.000 Do you think more guns is what we need?

00:13:32.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:13:33.000 I do.

00:13:33.000 Okay, so that's what's so funny.

00:13:36.000 Okay, great.

00:13:37.000 So, this is what is so fascinating.

00:13:39.000 You have a problem.

00:13:40.000 We have a debate here where we don't agree on the problem.

00:13:44.000 He thinks the problem is we have too few guns, I think it's we have too many. 1.00

00:13:50.000 This is retarded. 1.00

00:13:52.000 How are we? 1.00

00:13:53.000 We don't even agree that you don't think there is a problem in the sense that you think more guns will stop the number of deaths, you think the deaths will go down.

00:14:02.000 If you add guns, I think, yeah, I think there'll be less crime if we have more guns.

00:14:06.000 Well, I mean, there you go.

00:14:07.000 I mean, you came to this debate.

00:14:09.000 I think, and here's the reason that you come to this debate saying, I don't want it to be a debate.

00:14:12.000 Because in a debate, you have a winner and a loser.

00:14:14.000 And a winner is established by showing that there's more evidence for one claim than another.

00:14:19.000 And so far, in this brief, wait a minute, in the brief time that we've been here, you have offered up no evidence, no data, no facts.

00:14:27.000 You've just offered up, it should be obvious.

00:14:30.000 I'm so exasperated.

00:14:31.000 This kind of virtue signaling about, I want less.

00:14:34.000 Murdered, do you?

00:14:35.000 And there's no.

00:14:36.000 This is the problem with gun control advocates.

00:14:38.000 They're not apprised of the facts.

00:14:40.000 There's more useful use of our time.

00:14:43.000 There's more nuanced positions to talk about than do guns cause violence?

00:14:47.000 Are you aware what a gun is?

00:14:49.000 I mean, do you know why it was designed?

00:14:50.000 Tell me, does a gun fire itself?

00:14:51.000 Does a gun fire itself?

00:14:53.000 Does a gun commit a crime?

00:14:54.000 Does a person with a gun commit a crime?

00:14:57.000 I was an old scientist who was a fan of Michael Moore back in the days.

00:15:02.000 Then I became a right winger.

00:15:04.000 And I denied my old past, but I still have this image of Michael Moore looking at statistics and Canada, for example, which doesn't have AR 15s.

00:15:14.000 And in fact, sadly, I had to get rid of my AR 15s when I moved back to Canada.

00:15:20.000 And it still hurts just thinking about getting rid of it.

00:15:24.000 But there are 10 times less gun murders in Canada.

00:15:28.000 What is your explanation for this, Nick?

00:15:31.000 Sure.

00:15:32.000 Well, if you look at America, if you look at gun crime in America, What we have is a demographics problem, not a gun problem.

00:15:39.000 You look at who's committing the gun crimes, and by and large, the profile of a person that commits a gun crime in America is a minority in a city who obtained his weapon illegally.

00:15:49.000 I mean, that's just, these are the facts.

00:15:51.000 You look at 90%, this is by the CDC.

00:15:54.000 There's a 2013 study done by the CDC which said that 90% of gun related deaths in this country were used.

00:16:01.000 They used a gun that was obtained illegally.

00:16:04.000 They didn't even get the gun legally.

00:16:05.000 If you look at also, if you look at states, for example, like Vermont, you look at states like Idaho, states like New Hampshire, Maine, states that have the same demographics as a place like Canada, the murder rates are between one and two in all these states.

00:16:18.000 And in all these states, you have high gun ownership, you have constitutional. 0.51

00:16:22.000 Permitless carry.

00:16:23.000 So anybody can carry a gun so long as they purchased it legally and they don't even need a permit for it.

00:16:27.000 And the murder rate is the same as it is in Europe, even though they have high gun ownership.

00:16:31.000 New Hampshire, Maine, I mean, they have crazy gun ownership.

00:16:34.000 They always have.

00:16:35.000 And the reason being is because it's a demographics problem.

00:16:37.000 Even if you look at a state like Louisiana, for example, or Illinois, you look at where the crime, the murders, and the gun crime is concentrated, it's in New Orleans and Louisiana.

00:16:48.000 It's in Chicago and Illinois.

00:16:49.000 Does anybody believe that the gun crime in Illinois?

00:16:52.000 Comes from Rockford and from southern Illinois, or do they think it comes from the south side of Chicago?

00:16:57.000 And who's in the south side of Chicago?

00:16:59.000 Are they buying their firearms legally?

00:17:01.000 No.

00:17:02.000 No, they're not.

00:17:03.000 So that's what explains most of the discrepancies demographics.

00:17:06.000 And you know this, Devin.

00:17:07.000 You understand race realism.

00:17:08.000 I don't understand why you can't, you don't understand it in this case.

00:17:12.000 I didn't say I didn't understand it.

00:17:14.000 I agree.

00:17:15.000 I don't agree with your assessment that it's demographics that are the problem. 1.00

00:17:19.000 I mean, guns are not off the hook because more black and brown people are doing the shooting. 1.00

00:17:23.000 Here's the problem. 1.00

00:17:24.000 You could dive into the demographics all you want. 1.00

00:17:27.000 These black and brown people that are committing the lion's share of crime, they are Americans. 1.00

00:17:31.000 And they do have guns, and they are killing people. 1.00

00:17:33.000 So it's our problem still. 0.99

00:17:35.000 You can't just say, well, it's mostly not the whites, so therefore it's not that big of a problem. 0.99

00:17:40.000 Well, but here's the trick. 0.92

00:17:42.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:17:42.000 Yeah.

00:17:43.000 No, even with the whites, if it was just the whites, it's still not as good as the European nations. 0.83

00:17:49.000 So we still have a problem. 0.98

00:17:50.000 I mean, look at all these white shooters going into schools and movie theaters and whatnot. 0.92

00:17:55.000 I mean, even though whites commit disproportionately less, you know, they should be by percentage committing more, they still do the majority of it. 0.87

00:18:02.000 It's still over 50%. 0.56

00:18:04.000 And so it is a problem.

00:18:07.000 Sure.

00:18:08.000 Well, in the first place, what we're talking about is causality.

00:18:11.000 You're saying, I mean, you start out by saying we want less murder, we want less crime.

00:18:16.000 And so what we're talking about is causation.

00:18:17.000 You're saying that guns cause crime.

00:18:19.000 And I'm showing you in two different examples.

00:18:22.000 In both cases, you have gun ownership, in both cases, you have lots of guns.

00:18:26.000 But in one case, you have a lot of gun crime.

00:18:28.000 In one case, you don't have a lot of gun crime.

00:18:30.000 And what that tells us, the variable here, excuse me, I'll let you finish.

00:18:33.000 The variable here is that in one case, you have a different demographic.

00:18:37.000 In one case, you have a like demographic.

00:18:39.000 So if you're trying to say, you know, well, oh, that doesn't matter.

00:18:42.000 In both cases, it's guns.

00:18:43.000 Well, we're showing that the cause for the crime is the type of people committing the crime, not the instrument.

00:18:49.000 In the second case with mass shootings, you say, well, any person can just go into a movie theater and shoot people up.

00:18:55.000 99% of mass shootings since 1956. 0.61

00:18:59.000 Have been committed in gun free zones where nobody could defend themselves. 0.53

00:19:03.000 If you also look into the profile of mass shootings, I've heard your position before that you're fine with handguns or shotguns.

00:19:10.000 The Columbine shooting was perpetrated with a handgun and a shotgun.

00:19:14.000 The Virginia Tech shooting was perpetrated with a handgun.

00:19:16.000 The most recent school shooting was perpetrated with a handgun.

00:19:18.000 The YouTube shooting, and on and on.

00:19:20.000 So these are just bogus left wing myths.

00:19:23.000 Anybody who looks at the stats knows it's nonsense. 0.98

00:19:25.000 Oh my God, what a heaving pile of dung that was. 0.98

00:19:28.000 Okay, for starters, you just straw men me at the start. 0.97

00:19:30.000 You said, I think guns.

00:19:32.000 Guns cause crimes or something?

00:19:34.000 No.

00:19:34.000 I'm aware that the guns have to have a person attached to them.

00:19:38.000 What I'm saying is, you could dissect the demographics all you want.

00:19:41.000 You might as well tell me how many people who perpetrate gun crime are right handed.

00:19:45.000 It doesn't matter in the end.

00:19:47.000 These people have access to weapons that can kill very easily.

00:19:50.000 Now, what were you talking about?

00:19:52.000 A Columbine and they had handguns?

00:19:53.000 Yeah, they had high powered handguns with like, how many in the cartridge on those?

00:19:57.000 I'm not sure what the.

00:19:59.000 I don't know.

00:19:59.000 Right.

00:20:00.000 You tell me.

00:20:02.000 I have no idea.

00:20:03.000 I'm obviously in favor of limiting the capacity of handguns.

00:20:07.000 So I don't want high powered weaponry.

00:20:09.000 I don't want military grade weaponry.

00:20:11.000 So, me talking about a policy of saying handguns and shotguns, that was me trying to, I don't know, find a middle ground, find a starting point.

00:20:20.000 Because if people keep coming back with, I need guns to defend my home, and I say, okay, well, why would you need an assault rifle to defend your home?

00:20:27.000 And they won't even give way on that.

00:20:29.000 I say, if you can't defend your home with a handgun and a shotgun, you better, you know, you need to practice how to shoot a little bit better.

00:20:36.000 Because I'm trying to get a little bit of sanity into this.

00:20:41.000 Right now, it's a disaster.

00:20:42.000 What's astonishing to me is that you don't view the problem, I mean, you don't see it as a problem, whereas the rest of the world is laughing at us.

00:20:50.000 And we have tens of thousands of dead bodies stacking up, and you're like, yeah.

00:20:54.000 I mean, at least you recognize that as a problem, right?

00:20:57.000 Sure.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, it's a problem that you have.

00:20:59.000 It's a problem that you do have gun deaths.

00:21:01.000 It's a negative externality of having guns, yes.

00:21:05.000 Let me try to just pivot a little bit right now because this is very typical. 0.99

00:21:11.000 Like, I'm hearing all the same pro gun shit, and it's just like both sides, it's been debunked a million times. 0.72

00:21:17.000 I don't really feel the need to go through all this again, but I actually have a question for you guys because I have not been paying attention to the news. 0.98

00:21:24.000 The Parkland shooting, I didn't.

00:21:25.000 Follow it at all.

00:21:26.000 I know that these kids are now making the rounds and giving speeches and whatnot.

00:21:31.000 What are they saying? 0.99

00:21:32.000 Are they being dumb children or do they have any points? 1.00

00:21:35.000 Have you been watching that? 1.00

00:21:36.000 They're saying ban the Second Amendment.

00:21:38.000 They're saying repeal the Second Amendment and any kind of incremental gun reform isn't good enough.

00:21:44.000 We're going to keep coming back for more.

00:21:45.000 I mean, these guys are.

00:21:46.000 I believe that's your position, right?

00:21:49.000 No, it's not.

00:21:50.000 But that's obviously naive.

00:21:51.000 And I think that's a totally secondary issue.

00:21:54.000 So I don't live in America.

00:21:55.000 I used to.

00:21:56.000 I'm aware of the gun violence there.

00:21:57.000 I see the stats.

00:21:58.000 I think it's horrible.

00:21:59.000 I think it's embarrassing.

00:22:00.000 I think it's unnecessary death.

00:22:02.000 I've lived in Germany and England and Australia and places where this is not even an issue.

00:22:07.000 I'm not concerned about being shot by a gun, the numbers reflect that.

00:22:11.000 It's a better society, it's a better way of doing this.

00:22:14.000 They've solved this problem.

00:22:16.000 Now, the question remains like, talking about America is very specific to America.

00:22:22.000 Would you agree that Japan, Germany, England is a better system when it comes to guns?

00:22:30.000 They have less people dying.

00:22:32.000 Can you not recognize that they are doing it better?

00:22:35.000 No, no, it's a different, it's totally a different situation in all these countries because in America, unlike any of the examples you gave, has a gun culture.

00:22:44.000 We have more guns per capita by far than any other country, but that's not something that's legislated away.

00:22:49.000 Do you know how many guns there are in the United States?

00:22:52.000 Wait a minute, you just jumped to the second part.

00:22:54.000 I'm not saying you can legislate it away.

00:22:56.000 I understand it's a massive problem.

00:22:58.000 Solving the problem of guns in America, we're coming in 200 years too late on this.

00:23:02.000 We have 300 million guns to contend with.

00:23:04.000 And I agree.

00:23:05.000 I have sympathy with the argument that if you take away guns from legal people, then the criminals are the only ones that have them.

00:23:11.000 I agree that that is a problem.

00:23:13.000 Now, it doesn't mean we should be paralyzed and not do anything to try to curtail this.

00:23:17.000 In fact, Well, look at some of the problems they're having in Germany right now and in the United Kingdom.

00:23:21.000 Wouldn't you? 1.00

00:23:22.000 If the, for example, in Germany, if the percentage of Muslims in the country goes from, what is it, 7% up to 20%, would you want to live in a country where you're able to defend your property and your life and your family? 1.00

00:23:34.000 Or would you want to be able to defend against? 1.00

00:23:36.000 Muslim gangs with machete like them. 1.00

00:23:38.000 Should we have it like, have they really solved the problem if in 100 years they're going to have a civil war on their doorstep? 1.00

00:23:44.000 Well, I mean, first of all, it's more like 4% to 5% Muslims there, and Germany is doing an amazing job. 0.84

00:23:49.000 I would love for Germany's policy on guns to be applied to America. 0.79

00:23:54.000 And I would much rather have gangs of people with machetes, by the way, we have those down here in Australia, in Melbourne, than gangs of people with weapons, like guns.

00:24:01.000 That would be better.

00:24:04.000 I mean, can we agree?

00:24:05.000 Are we going to enter the knives versus guns aspect of this debate?

00:24:08.000 Well, the point is, I think the gangs would have guns as well because the gangs aren't going to legally obtain their weapons.

00:24:14.000 The only people that be disarmed are the citizens, but.

00:24:17.000 But that's a decision.

00:24:19.000 Maybe you'd like that, where we're all defenseless and it comes down to a sword fight with gangs.

00:24:26.000 And maybe they have guns, maybe they don't.

00:24:28.000 No.

00:24:29.000 I believe in civilization.

00:24:30.000 I believe we should be building societies and coexisting in a way that is promoting peace.

00:24:35.000 Yes.

00:24:36.000 Do you not agree with that coexistence as a goal?

00:24:38.000 I don't agree with coexistence.

00:24:40.000 No, I think we need to be.

00:24:41.000 Are you part of this nation?

00:24:43.000 I think really, fundamentally, the difference is you believe in.

00:24:43.000 No.

00:24:47.000 You believe in this world where we just get rid of all the guns, you know, we'll be in a much better place.

00:24:53.000 No, Hold on.

00:24:55.000 Okay.

00:24:56.000 Wait a minute.

00:24:57.000 Don't start talking about this, all this, all that.

00:24:59.000 We're talking about incrementally making something better.

00:25:02.000 So I understand that guns can slip through the cracks.

00:25:05.000 It's very difficult to get a gun in Germany.

00:25:07.000 So the chances of it happening, you know, look, if you're an organized terrorist organization, yeah, you could slip a gun in.

00:25:13.000 Same in France, same in anywhere.

00:25:14.000 But it's just not as likely.

00:25:16.000 And that is superior to having just open, you know, bloodbaths and carnage.

00:25:24.000 Okay, but at the end of the day, what you're talking about is you want to make it so that law abiding citizens can't defend themselves.

00:25:30.000 You want to make it more difficult for, yeah, because what you're talking about, when you're talking about gun control and you're talking about this incremental, making things better, incremental reform, is you want to put up obstacles and barriers, which whether, you know, I've heard you in the past say you want to raise the age limit to 25.

00:25:46.000 And, you know, these are various examples of legislation.

00:25:50.000 What you want to do is make it so that law abiding people under the age of 25 or law abiding people, whatever it is, They have to be subject to a more difficult process to obtain a firearm.

00:25:59.000 But in a country where 90% of the gun crimes are committed by people who obtained their weapons illegally, only 10% obtained their weapons legally, you couldn't be talking about anything but putting up barriers for law abiding people to acquire firearms and defending themselves.

00:26:16.000 The people who are committing crimes, by and large, almost all of them are committing them without regulation.

00:26:22.000 They're not subject to the regulations because they obtain them illegally.

00:26:26.000 There's 400 million possibly in circulation.

00:26:28.000 There's no way you could get a handle on that.

00:26:31.000 Okay, so now you're saying the problem in America, you're jumping back and forth.

00:26:33.000 The problem in America is difficult because there's a bunch of guns, yes, and criminals don't obey the law, yes.

00:26:39.000 I don't want criminals to have easy access to guns either.

00:26:42.000 But they do.

00:26:43.000 In America, they do, yes.

00:26:45.000 Again, America is 200 years too late on this right now, and solving the American problem is going to be different. 0.95

00:26:50.000 You still haven't conceded the fact that life in Germany is superior to life in America because you don't have to run the risk. 0.68

00:26:56.000 Well, because, well, have you ever lived there? 0.54

00:26:58.000 No.

00:26:59.000 Okay, so, but why would you say that?

00:27:01.000 There's the likelihood of you dying by a gun.

00:27:04.000 Is very slim in Germany, whereas in America, it's way bigger.

00:27:09.000 How do you make a case against that?

00:27:11.000 Because, well, first of all, you're talking about something that's very general.

00:27:14.000 But to answer your question, because I can't defend myself, because if there's a threat, and let me tell you something, in a place where there's a lot of gun ownership, I live in a place where there's a lot of gun ownership.

00:27:25.000 People in my neighborhood own guns, and there's not a lot of crime.

00:27:28.000 And that's principally because of demographics.

00:27:30.000 Regardless of that fact, I can protect myself and my family where I live. 0.76

00:27:35.000 In Germany, I can't do that.

00:27:37.000 And whether somebody tries to.

00:27:39.000 I'm not scared.

00:27:40.000 It's about security.

00:27:41.000 I think it's kind of silly to say that because there are threats in the world, security from all kinds of things.

00:27:46.000 For example, people have put my address online before.

00:27:48.000 There are people that want to hurt me.

00:27:50.000 If you go into the wrong neighborhood where I live, you could be in a bad situation.

00:27:54.000 You could be in a bad position.

00:27:56.000 I'd like to be able to defend myself.

00:27:58.000 I'd like to be able to legally defend myself.

00:28:00.000 And maybe that's not possible in Germany because it's so difficult or impossible for some to obtain a firearm.

00:28:06.000 But for the people that want to commit crimes, they don't play by the same rules, obviously.

00:28:11.000 And you're not really.

00:28:12.000 You keep jumping, and speaking of jumping back and forth, you jump into these weird.

00:28:17.000 I'm trying to get specific in terms of causal relationships and why we have firearms.

00:28:21.000 And you want to get into this abstract position of, well, quality of life here is better, it's safer here, and all the rest, but without looking at all the different factors.

00:28:30.000 No, but we're not talking about other factors.

00:28:32.000 We're talking about strictly the gun aspect of it.

00:28:35.000 Like when I'm in Las Vegas.

00:28:36.000 When I'm in Germany, for example, go ahead.

00:28:38.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 When I'm in Las Vegas.

00:28:40.000 Yeah, go up.

00:28:41.000 You go.

00:28:41.000 All right.

00:28:43.000 I see a guy come into a store.

00:28:45.000 I'm at a Subway sandwich.

00:28:46.000 He has his hoodie on.

00:28:48.000 He has his hands in his pockets.

00:28:49.000 He looks a little bit sketchy.

00:28:50.000 I'm nervous that he might pull out a gun.

00:28:53.000 Like, this was, I was there not so long ago, and it was right after a mass shooting.

00:28:57.000 And it is a real possibility that the dude is packing.

00:29:00.000 Like, it's not totally out of the question.

00:29:03.000 When I'm living anywhere else in the world, and I've lived all over the world, it doesn't, I don't feel that at all.

00:29:09.000 That is superior.

00:29:10.000 That is peace of mind.

00:29:11.000 You talk about, you're basically being led by fear.

00:29:14.000 You're letting the fear of being secure, all these threats in the world, oh my God, I'm this little guy.

00:29:19.000 It's, we have cops.

00:29:20.000 You could, You could call people, you could run away, you could contain the guy.

00:29:24.000 The point is, what you might experience in Chicago yeah, if you're in the wrong part of Chicago, you got issues and you got problems.

00:29:30.000 So that is different, but you still will not concede that if nobody had guns, if far less people had guns, it would be better for all of us.

00:29:39.000 Not just better for you, better for all of us.

00:29:41.000 We're not talking realistically, though.

00:29:43.000 If we're talking about a place with no guns, as I said from the beginning, this is simply not a possibility. 0.84

00:29:49.000 America is not Germany.

00:29:51.000 America's not Australia.

00:29:53.000 That person who's packing, wait, wait, but that person who's packing, you can't, there's no, there is no way, I'm sorry, but there is simply no way that you could even attempt or begin to control the sheer amount of firearms that are in the country.

00:30:07.000 There's between 265 to 400 million firearms in the country.

00:30:12.000 That's a lot of guns.

00:30:14.000 And, well, and the point being that if somebody walks into a place in Las Vegas and they're packing, that's going to happen no matter what incremental gun reforms you take.

00:30:22.000 And the question is, how do you mitigate the amount of Gun related deaths in a country you can't control the amount of guns, where criminals have them and they walk freely with them.

00:30:30.000 You make it so that in that situation, a person can defend themselves.

00:30:35.000 You won't be able to prevent, in many cases, not even in the majority, in probably most cases, you won't be able to prevent somebody from packing and putting you in a position like that.

00:30:43.000 What you can do is empower law abiding people to be able to defend themselves.

00:30:48.000 And I think that's the question.

00:30:49.000 How do we prevent people from being killed by firearms?

00:30:51.000 In America, it's not a question of, well, if we could prevent this many guns from being on the street.

00:30:56.000 You'll never come close to 90% getting guns off the street away from criminals.

00:31:01.000 So, the way that you prevent it is putting a gun in the hands of people so they can defend themselves.

00:31:05.000 It's the only way.

00:31:06.000 That's insane.

00:31:06.000 Okay, so let me respond to that.

00:31:09.000 Your idea, you always reference this stuff of like, oh, it's going to be really hard.

00:31:12.000 You're never going to get all the guns up.

00:31:14.000 Impossible.

00:31:15.000 Oh, super impossible.

00:31:15.000 Very difficult.

00:31:16.000 We're never going to stop murder, are we, Nick?

00:31:18.000 So, we might as well not try to do anything.

00:31:20.000 We're never going to stop it.

00:31:21.000 We might as well not give the tools that people use to murder to more potential murderers.

00:31:25.000 That'll solve it. 1.00

00:31:27.000 It's retarded. 1.00

00:31:27.000 Come on, man. 1.00

00:31:29.000 Just because it's a big problem doesn't mean we should just sit there and be like, let's do nothing.

00:31:33.000 Well, tell me how we begin to control 400 million guns.

00:31:37.000 Tell me how we begin to do it.

00:31:39.000 Oh, and I'm more than happy to.

00:31:40.000 But you are skipping past major points, which I would like to just let the audience know about so that you can be on record.

00:31:47.000 I want you to clarify your position on guns.

00:31:49.000 Sure.

00:31:50.000 And so here's a question Would you prefer, and this is what I asked my audience, and it was very informative for me.

00:31:55.000 And by the way, my audience is mostly pro gun. 0.99

00:31:57.000 So I don't have some team of people that I'm high fiving, like, yeah, fuck guns. 0.99

00:32:03.000 First of all, Nick, it was very interesting that you always bring it back to America. 0.99

00:32:06.000 I'm not in America.

00:32:08.000 There's a world outside of America.

00:32:10.000 Okay, America is.

00:32:11.000 Not really on this issue.

00:32:13.000 Exactly.

00:32:14.000 So this guy's a total team America dude.

00:32:16.000 And he just wants to arm everybody.

00:32:18.000 America first.

00:32:19.000 His buddy guesses America first.

00:32:21.000 That's right.

00:32:22.000 America first.

00:32:24.000 Are you open to the idea that other countries have a superior way of handling this?

00:32:28.000 Just are you open to that as a concept?

00:32:30.000 No.

00:32:30.000 Okay.

00:32:31.000 I think Germany's laws are gay. 1.00

00:32:33.000 I hate Germany's laws. 1.00

00:32:34.000 If we were like Germany, I would kill myself. 0.99

00:32:37.000 Okay. 0.99

00:32:38.000 If we were like Germany a while ago, maybe I'd be all right. 0.95

00:32:41.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:32:41.000 There's a strong likelihood you will end up killing yourself with your own gun. 0.98

00:32:44.000 But here's my question for you. 0.96

00:32:46.000 My question is simple.

00:32:47.000 What is more ideal to you, in your estimation?

00:32:49.000 A country where almost everyone has a gun or a country where almost no one has a gun?

00:32:56.000 Probably a country where everyone has a gun, I would say.

00:32:58.000 I'm shocked, Nick.

00:33:00.000 I'm shocked.

00:33:01.000 Please defend that.

00:33:02.000 Please defend that.

00:33:04.000 I want to hear it.

00:33:05.000 Yeah, I think the difference is you see a gun as a tool that can be used to kill people, and you think that's always a bad thing.

00:33:13.000 And I think that's a different worldview.

00:33:15.000 I think that's a liberal worldview.

00:33:17.000 I think we live in a world where people have bad intentions.

00:33:20.000 And I think that the gun, like nuclear weapons in many cases, can be better used as a deterrent more than anything or use a means to defend a person.

00:33:29.000 So you're still going to have, in a country with no guns, you're still going to have beatings, you're still going to have rape, you're still going to have home invasion, burglary, theft.

00:33:37.000 But in a country where everyone has a gun, you're able to defend against that.

00:33:41.000 Why don't we use other devices to defend and not use lethal force?

00:33:45.000 How about stun guns and pepper spray and all sorts of other goodies?

00:33:49.000 Look, I'm in favor of the cops.

00:33:50.000 What you just described is.

00:33:52.000 A land with zero police.

00:33:53.000 I want the police to have guns.

00:33:54.000 I want a military.

00:33:55.000 I'm not anti gun to some ridiculous level.

00:33:58.000 I think it's a terrible idea.

00:34:01.000 You want a police state.

00:34:03.000 You want a police state.

00:34:05.000 I'll tell you how.

00:34:06.000 The UK, for example, it's interesting you brought up the UK and how they do things.

00:34:10.000 When I talked about the murder rate that went up after the gun ban, or rather, gun control went into effect in 97, the only way that they were able to bring their murder rate down, by the way, that didn't just happen on its own.

00:34:22.000 They had to increase the amount of police in the country by 18%, which is a lot of police.

00:34:27.000 And most police will tell you, even in America, most police will tell you that the best way to defend against crime is to have a gun.

00:34:34.000 And they will tell you that when these kinds of any crime happens, a home invasion, a rape, a murder, police get there after the fact.

00:34:41.000 Police are reactive, they're not proactive.

00:34:43.000 They respond to crime.

00:34:44.000 Someone has to call the phone and they have to come, and it takes a long time.

00:34:47.000 You know, in Parkland, Florida, the shooting was already over by the time the police got there.

00:34:53.000 And that's when I say, Police are not sufficient.

00:34:56.000 People have to be able to defend themselves.

00:34:58.000 The UK, is that the place with 0.92 is their rate per 100,000 when it comes to homicide versus America, which is 4.88?

00:35:09.000 No, America's five times the murder rate of England, and yet you bring up England.

00:35:14.000 And what's the big difference?

00:35:16.000 There's no guns in England.

00:35:18.000 I brought up England. 1.00

00:35:20.000 Yeah, there's also a lot less, there's also a lot less, there's also a lot less minorities.

00:35:25.000 So that's a big difference as well, which you're leaving out in the homicide rate.

00:35:28.000 If you compare like states, if you compare states that are demographically like the UK, Idaho, Maine, the murder rates are about the same.

00:35:38.000 Okay, but so what? 1.00

00:35:39.000 All the brown and black people of your country belong to your country. 1.00

00:35:42.000 That's your problem. 1.00

00:35:43.000 You can't just eradicate it by saying, well, the whites do it less. 0.97

00:35:47.000 You still go through Chicago.

00:35:49.000 People of Chicago, whatever color they are, have access to guns, and it's a problem.

00:35:54.000 But we're talking, no, I don't think you understand here.

00:35:57.000 It's about causality.

00:36:01.000 If you're saying the homicide rate in the UK is lower than the United States, you're comparing the UK and the United States, and you're saying the reason, the causality, why these two are different.

00:36:12.000 Is one has no guns and one has guns.

00:36:14.000 However, if you compare the UK with other states in the United States where they have guns and they can carry them without a permit, and you find that the murder rate is the same, then you find that the variable here, causality, the reason why the homicide rate is lower in one country and higher than another, if you control for guns, you'll find the reason is demographics.

00:36:35.000 We have 40 times the amount of gangs as other countries in the developed world.

00:36:35.000 It's gangs.

00:36:40.000 I'm against gangs.

00:36:41.000 What do you prefer gangs?

00:36:42.000 Gangs will go away.

00:36:43.000 Gangs will go away.

00:36:43.000 Do you think they'll go away if you ban guns?

00:36:47.000 Well, first of all, it's disingenuous for you to argue that, oh, upstate Maine, and it doesn't have a gang culture, and you're going to compare that to all of England with all of its ghettos, all of the crime ridden areas, its congestion.

00:36:58.000 There are other cultural factors at play there.

00:37:00.000 It's not just a fair comparison to make there.

00:37:03.000 Okay, so you're saying it's not a fair comparison then?

00:37:05.000 Well, then it's not a fair comparison to compare it to the United States where there are structural differences in the composition of the population.

00:37:12.000 No, we're talking about the presence of guns.

00:37:15.000 Directly affecting gun deaths and murder rates.

00:37:18.000 Where there are more guns, there's more murder and more gun deaths.

00:37:22.000 And by the way, we could talk about more suicide.

00:37:25.000 Dude, I mean, our suicide rate is insanely high and would be far less if people didn't have easy access to guns.

00:37:32.000 And suicide is.

00:37:33.000 If we're going to jump to the suicide argument, how about South Korea and Japan? 0.63

00:37:37.000 Have you heard this one before?

00:37:39.000 Japan.

00:37:40.000 Can you tell me what the suicide rate is there?

00:37:41.000 Do they have a lot of gun ownership? 1.00

00:37:43.000 That is retarded, and you know it. 1.00

00:37:45.000 That's such an outlier. 1.00

00:37:47.000 How about South Korea then?

00:37:47.000 There it is.

00:37:48.000 How about South Korea?

00:37:49.000 Korea, then?

00:37:50.000 What about?

00:37:51.000 I don't know.

00:37:51.000 What are the stats?

00:37:53.000 South Korea has another one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

00:37:56.000 Very strict gun control. 0.70

00:37:57.000 The same is true in Japan.

00:37:59.000 People who commit suicide, and I've seen you say this in your video people who are going to commit suicide with a gun won't commit suicide with any other means.

00:38:07.000 And I laughed out loud, you know, as if guns cause suicide.

00:38:11.000 You know, I was having a great day, but then I saw a gun and I got some urges.

00:38:15.000 Then I started to.

00:38:16.000 I hate the technology has driven me to suicide. 0.99

00:38:20.000 That's just ridiculous. 0.98

00:38:21.000 That's not even close to being a point. 0.99

00:38:24.000 Are you aware that it's easy to kill yourself with a gun?

00:38:26.000 Of course.

00:38:27.000 Far easier than any other method.

00:38:29.000 They've had studies on this, it's proven.

00:38:31.000 Well, it's quicker.

00:38:31.000 It's quicker.

00:38:32.000 Right.

00:38:33.000 And 90% of the people that try to kill themselves and fail, they don't try it again.

00:38:38.000 Now, we have 30,000 people offing themselves with guns.

00:38:42.000 And this is a major problem.

00:38:43.000 And in countries where there are less guns, it's less suicide.

00:38:48.000 Now, you jump to Japan, I could spit out 50 countries where this is the case. 0.73

00:38:53.000 Japan has their shame culture, and that is a problem. 0.62

00:38:56.000 It's a separate problem. 0.94

00:38:57.000 And by the way, if there were guns in Japan, their suicide rates would be higher.

00:39:02.000 Do you agree with that?

00:39:04.000 I think they might be marginally higher, but not significantly.

00:39:07.000 Oh, God.

00:39:07.000 Not enough, I'd be willing to say that guns are the problem.

00:39:10.000 I think what you see is a suicide problem, not a gun problem.

00:39:13.000 Obviously, suicide is a problem, but the method people use to do it, if you make it easy and instantaneous and fatal, you're sure it's going to be a fatal thing, then these numbers are going to rise.

00:39:25.000 This is obvious.

00:39:26.000 You know, this is one, it's a valid reason.

00:39:28.000 I think it's, I grant it's a separate sort of sub discussion to have the suicide one. 0.89

00:39:34.000 And, you know, I'm also in favor of, you know, assisted suicide and whatnot, but not really for young people.

00:39:39.000 I mean, I think there'd be a, that's another discussion.

00:39:41.000 But I'm really curious about this.

00:39:44.000 You talk about demographics.

00:39:46.000 It seems like you want to get away from guns and what they do.

00:39:49.000 And so you'll say, oh, it's other things that cause this.

00:39:53.000 It's the people, it's the mental health, it's the.

00:39:55.000 Yeah, I want to talk about causality.

00:39:57.000 I want to talk about causality.

00:39:58.000 It's got nothing to do with guns.

00:40:00.000 I will defend guns for as long as I can.

00:40:02.000 But the problem that you're ascribing the homicide rate.

00:40:07.000 To a variable that you haven't controlled for.

00:40:09.000 You're saying that this country has a low murder rate, this country has a high murder rate, and never mind the structural differences.

00:40:16.000 But you're saying never mind the structural differences in the populations.

00:40:16.000 No, no, no.

00:40:20.000 Never mind that the UK is a different country, culturally, demographically, in many ways.

00:40:27.000 It's comparable.

00:40:28.000 The only reason is guns.

00:40:30.000 And then you ignore, you say, oh, well, oh, it's Upper Maine.

00:40:33.000 No, it's Maine, it's Idaho.

00:40:35.000 You can pick and choose any state that's demographically similar to the United Kingdom. 0.51

00:40:39.000 They have more gun ownership.

00:40:41.000 They have very similar homicide rates. 0.97

00:40:43.000 And that's, you separate out the black murder rate, and it's the same as what it is in West Africa. 0.94

00:40:47.000 You separate out the white murder rate, and it's the same as what it is in Western Europe. 0.80

00:40:51.000 And that just goes to show that it has nothing to do with guns. 0.72

00:40:54.000 It has to do with the people wielding them.

00:40:55.000 But if you want to talk about guns, I'm pro gun, not just anti gun, because a gun is a means to defend yourself, to defend your property, to defend your life, to defend yourself against the government.

00:41:07.000 I know you think that's a joke or a meme, but that's something we take very seriously.

00:41:11.000 A gun is a necessity, it reflects.

00:41:14.000 Self reliance, independence, self ownership.

00:41:16.000 I mean, I'm very.

00:41:18.000 I talk about guns all you want.

00:41:20.000 But, Nick, you're not hearing the point.

00:41:23.000 You talk about these demographics, and I agree that it's disproportionate if you break it down by race.

00:41:30.000 What does it matter?

00:41:32.000 These people are still American citizens, and our policy lets them, those people, all people of all colors, access guns. 0.89

00:41:41.000 It's like you're trying to distract us.

00:41:43.000 You throw a bunch of facts and figures, and you just.

00:41:46.000 You're trying to get away from what is so obviously at the core of this.

00:41:50.000 Let me ask you another hypothetical because I want to understand your position.

00:41:52.000 I just want to hear it.

00:41:53.000 I want to hear it in your words.

00:41:56.000 Let's say you and 25 people find yourself on a deserted island.

00:41:59.000 Yes.

00:41:59.000 And you see a treasure chest and you open it, it has 25 guns in it.

00:42:05.000 What is your decision?

00:42:06.000 What is the best method?

00:42:08.000 You're going to have to stay on this island for a couple months.

00:42:10.000 There's no predators on this island.

00:42:12.000 What do you think the best method would be to deal with these guns?

00:42:15.000 Should we give everybody a gun?

00:42:18.000 Give no one a gun, or maybe give one person who we trust and who is trained and who we vote upon to have control of the gun.

00:42:26.000 Yeah, well, firstly, I think this is a silly and a useless abstraction because I'll entertain it in a moment.

00:42:34.000 I'll entertain it, but I'll just before you entertain it, I want to point out this kind of hypothetical takes for granted that you have some sort of socialist control that you decide for everyone.

00:42:45.000 This is not America and it's not the state of freedom right now in most democratic countries.

00:42:49.000 Lucky for me, I didn't say it was America.

00:42:51.000 And I'm not talking about political forms here.

00:42:54.000 I'm just saying, what do you think the best decision would be with these guns?

00:42:57.000 You found them.

00:42:57.000 You're all looking at them.

00:42:59.000 Well, as long as we acknowledge that this has nothing to do with American gun policy, I think it actually gets to the core of the issue.

00:43:05.000 I want to know what your opinion is.

00:43:07.000 I think it's very different than the American situation.

00:43:09.000 If we're talking about settlements in the 17th century, maybe it would be similar. 0.80

00:43:14.000 But what I would do in that situation, I would probably hoard all the guns for myself, and I'd probably kill anybody who is.

00:43:23.000 Who would be able to overpower me physically? 0.97

00:43:25.000 I would kill all my enemies and I'd become king of the island and support all the resources.

00:43:32.000 I always felt a little Leonardo DiCaprio vibe with Nick. 0.91

00:43:37.000 There you go.

00:43:38.000 Right, so that's your joke answer.

00:43:41.000 I'd actually be interested to hear your real answer.

00:43:43.000 That would be my real answer.

00:43:44.000 I think the question.

00:43:45.000 You want to listen to this because you're scared.

00:43:47.000 You're a scared little kid.

00:43:48.000 No, no, no.

00:43:48.000 I think it betrays.

00:43:50.000 It's interesting on this analogy because I think it betrays our two different worldviews. 0.98

00:43:54.000 You have this worldview of let's try and end this little European man. 0.99

00:43:59.000 I'm going to shoot the guns to people I trust. 1.00

00:44:02.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:44:03.000 You know, this very like. 1.00

00:44:04.000 You know, bitchy opposition to guns.

00:44:06.000 You're like, we'll give it to people we trust and everything will be okay.

00:44:09.000 And I think my worldview is one that is Hobbesian.

00:44:12.000 My worldview is one of the security dilemma that you have a lot of people on this island.

00:44:17.000 You can't, I'm looking out for number one.

00:44:19.000 I'm looking out for the survival of myself and my immediate circle.

00:44:22.000 And that's what I want to appeal to.

00:44:25.000 So it's self centered, it's self serving, and it's based on fear.

00:44:28.000 It's human nature.

00:44:29.000 You reject human nature by embracing it.

00:44:32.000 No, I agree.

00:44:33.000 I agree.

00:44:34.000 It's our worst part of human nature.

00:44:34.000 It is human nature.

00:44:36.000 Not all human nature is good.

00:44:37.000 See, there it is.

00:44:38.000 How do you make value judgments?

00:44:40.000 I love these value judgments on human nature is bad.

00:44:44.000 What standard? 0.90

00:44:46.000 Well, you could say that rape is human nature. 1.00

00:44:48.000 Sure. 0.70

00:44:49.000 I think some of it, yeah.

00:44:50.000 Okay, do you agree that rape is bad?

00:44:52.000 So that's a value judgment.

00:44:53.000 No. 0.98

00:44:53.000 I mean, yeah, rape is good. 0.98

00:44:55.000 Thank God. 0.97

00:44:56.000 The whole.

00:44:57.000 Raven, I was answering the wrong question.

00:45:00.000 But the point I meant to draw by that is you, from this weird. Enlightened, secular, liberal position are able to ascribe a moral value to human nature, the propensity to defend oneself.

00:45:11.000 I just find that interesting.

00:45:12.000 That's all.

00:45:13.000 I'm all in favor of defense.

00:45:14.000 I'm in favor of civilization.

00:45:16.000 So we're not just cavemen running around, every man for himself, everybody arm up and blast anybody who scares you enough.

00:45:22.000 I'm saying you're 25 people on an island.

00:45:24.000 You form an agreement and you say, look, guys, what's the best method here for us to all exist peacefully?

00:45:32.000 And I'm not saying nobody should have a gun.

00:45:34.000 Maybe the best method is let's have one guy be a cop.

00:45:37.000 Like, let's have this guy enforce law or settle disputes, whatnot.

00:45:42.000 What happens if that guy gets power mad when he kills the guy?

00:45:45.000 Well, then you come out with your Glock and you save the day, Team America.

00:45:48.000 That's right.

00:45:49.000 That's right.

00:45:50.000 Vigilante style.

00:45:50.000 Well, no, it's true.

00:45:52.000 It's true.

00:45:53.000 Are you more.

00:45:53.000 Would you be.

00:45:54.000 If I had a gun and you had a gun, let's say you wanted something I have.

00:45:59.000 Let's say I had a prized.

00:46:01.000 Let's say I had something that you really wanted badly.

00:46:04.000 I don't know what that would be.

00:46:05.000 I don't know enough about you to say what your innermost desires are.

00:46:08.000 But let's say I had something you wanted very badly.

00:46:10.000 Would you be more or less likely to use force to overpower me to take it if you had a gun and I didn't, or if we both had guns, if there was a chance that I could defend myself?

00:46:22.000 I mean, let's say you've already arrived at the conclusion that you're going to take it.

00:46:26.000 Would you be more or less likely if I had a gun to take it?

00:46:28.000 You'd probably be less likely.

00:46:30.000 That's the a priori decision making that we base gun rights off of.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, I just don't want guns in the equation.

00:46:39.000 I think it's superior to not have the guns in the equation.

00:46:41.000 But they're already in the equation.

00:46:44.000 And you just jumped to the American situation.

00:46:45.000 Right.

00:46:46.000 So we're talking about the philosophy of it, which is my point.

00:46:49.000 I don't think the Second Amendment is a good idea to start with.

00:46:51.000 I think that this is a terrible idea that we see the ramifications of it and we see it in dead bodies.

00:46:57.000 So if you want to shift to what we can do about America, that's a totally separate topic and we can't do that.

00:47:03.000 I would also like to ask you, though, just your stance on bazookas and grenades.

00:47:09.000 I'm against bazookas and grenades.

00:47:11.000 Why, dude?

00:47:11.000 Self defense.

00:47:12.000 Why?

00:47:13.000 You've got to defend someone from the Palm of Victor.

00:47:15.000 Sure.

00:47:16.000 Well, in Heller versus D.C., they actually laid out a constitutional case that there are reasonable limits that can be put on the Second Amendment.

00:47:23.000 The Second Amendment is not an absolute.

00:47:25.000 We don't believe in guns in themselves, we believe in guns towards a specific end.

00:47:31.000 Okay, so I think I'm happy to move on to discussing gun control and actual real world practical things.

00:47:38.000 I want to move there, but first I have a challenge on AIU on the philosophical question, and then we can move on to the most pragmatic questions.

00:47:46.000 But, Andy, do we have a couple super chats to read before we get there?

00:47:50.000 Sure, and I want to challenge Nick on something actually that I just thought.

00:47:53.000 Let's hear it.

00:47:54.000 Yeah, so I'll read a few super chats here.

00:47:54.000 Let's hear it.

00:47:58.000 People are very vocal about this topic.

00:48:03.000 Hollow words, 50 bucks.

00:48:04.000 Thank you so much, man.

00:48:06.000 AIU, are you a child?

00:48:08.000 Less Oma Gi, do you really believe that's so strange?

00:48:12.000 And more actual arguments, please Google it.

00:48:15.000 I'm sure there's evidence.

00:48:17.000 It's not an argument.

00:48:18.000 And if you don't agree with me, this debate is pointless.

00:48:21.000 It's not an argument.

00:48:22.000 I think this super chat was done earlier, and then AIU specified more of his argument.

00:48:27.000 Now, here's one against Nick Luke Blight, $69, $10. 1.00

00:48:32.000 Nick, you're a dumb cunt, and your face makes you look like a dumb cunt. 1.00

00:48:37.000 Japan has strict gun laws and they have few gun deaths. 1.00

00:48:42.000 Australia does not have a gun issue.

00:48:45.000 Only in the US does this problem exist. 1.00

00:48:49.000 Yeah, that guy's a pussy. 1.00

00:48:50.000 That guy's, if you don't own a gun, you're a pussy. 1.00

00:48:53.000 And I'll just leave it at that for that gentleman. 1.00

00:48:57.000 So, on the Philadelphia question, I did continue.

00:49:00.000 Just one more.

00:49:01.000 Benny asks, 20 bucks.

00:49:02.000 Thank you very much. 0.99

00:49:03.000 Brazil has less guns and more murders.

00:49:06.000 Just because you ban something, it doesn't disappear from society.

00:49:10.000 Criminals will have.

00:49:11.000 Access to it because they don't care about laws in the first place.

00:49:15.000 And now, Senarchy, 10 pounds, says when seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

00:49:23.000 So, on the philosophical question, because I think that AIU has a good way to approach this problem, dividing the pragmatic questions from the fundamental philosophical problem.

00:49:34.000 I think Nick has considered a little more than I would personally on the philosophical aspect and on if I could control everything with a magic.

00:49:42.000 Wand.

00:49:43.000 Would I want people with guns or would I want people with no guns?

00:49:47.000 I personally would want people with guns.

00:49:49.000 I'm not saying that I would arm my enemies, that I wouldn't arm other people, but I would certainly have a magic wand into reality, my liberty to own a gun.

00:49:59.000 And there's something very weird with the argument of depriving people of their liberty to self defend with the weapons that they find fit for that purpose.

00:50:10.000 It's that you're essentially counting the dead bodies.

00:50:13.000 And you're saying because of these dead bodies, because of a result, I'm going to invade on the liberties of everyone, even those who haven't committed these crimes.

00:50:22.000 That's not the way we usually handle the limitations of liberty.

00:50:28.000 We usually limit people's liberty because they have done something wrong.

00:50:32.000 Isn't there a problem with your approach there, Ayu, where you are punishing the wrong people?

00:50:38.000 No, you framed it in a very odd way.

00:50:40.000 I don't think they have the liberty to own a gun.

00:50:43.000 You can defend yourself.

00:50:44.000 But I'm against the right to own guns.

00:50:47.000 Now, again, you're wishy washy here with the principle of that versus the reality today.

00:50:52.000 So I understand what you're saying.

00:50:54.000 If I deprive them now when there's millions of guns around, then yes, that can be problematic.

00:50:59.000 And so de escalating from us all being armed is going to take a lot of time, multiple generations, and it's either going to get better or worse.

00:51:08.000 I'm not looking for a magic solution here.

00:51:10.000 I'm looking for something, some change, action on any level.

00:51:15.000 Like, for example, take a place like South Africa. 0.93

00:51:17.000 I'm pro gun in South Africa.

00:51:20.000 I'm happy for people to have guns in South Africa because of the situation.

00:51:24.000 A little bit too late, don't you think?

00:51:27.000 Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of picking and choosing a time when people should be armed.

00:51:31.000 That's kind of the point.

00:51:33.000 What do you mean?

00:51:34.000 No, South Africa is basically.

00:51:36.000 Well, South Africa is basically.

00:51:38.000 They have the guns.

00:51:39.000 They have them.

00:51:40.000 No, no, but I'm saying, like, and you, you would like to disarm, or you think it's a good thing. 0.84

00:51:45.000 You think it's a good thing that Germany has been disarmed. 0.87

00:51:48.000 And in 100 years, they're going to be like South Africa. 0.92

00:51:51.000 I'm sure they would like guns in 100 years.

00:51:52.000 They're not going to have them.

00:51:54.000 And that's why we have hierarchies.

00:51:56.000 But this is the whole point.

00:51:57.000 We have.

00:51:57.000 Oh, sure they will be.

00:51:58.000 South Africa is a failed state and they do not provide safety to the citizens. 0.97

00:52:03.000 In fact, the president and the government are coming after the white citizens, at least, and the murder rates are insane. 0.98

00:52:09.000 And it's just every man for himself down there. 0.93

00:52:11.000 So that's, I don't want to be like South Africa, but I recognize the situation there and I have family there and I would recommend they get guns.

00:52:18.000 And they, you know, people live in secured areas and have private guards anyway.

00:52:22.000 Same thing in Latin America.

00:52:22.000 You see private armed guards everywhere, you know, and so I don't want America, I don't want the modern world to end up like this.

00:52:30.000 I think these are worse versions.

00:52:32.000 Of how people can live in a country.

00:52:33.000 I want to ask a question to Nick.

00:52:37.000 Nick, so you brought up the point that it's too late for America, right?

00:52:42.000 Because how to control all the guns and everything.

00:52:45.000 But then when AIU asked you if you'd prefer that everyone has a gun or only a few people have one, you'd say you said that you wanted everyone to have one.

00:52:59.000 But then if you have that thought, then.

00:53:03.000 It doesn't matter about the it's too late.

00:53:05.000 You still want the weapons there.

00:53:08.000 Well, I think it's a well, here, I think that everyone should have a gun, even in the abstract.

00:53:13.000 But I think that anybody who is talking about America, I think any kind of gun control, you know, example, any kind of idea about limiting the amount of firearms, I think is ridiculous on its face for those pragmatic reasons.

00:53:26.000 So that's, I think, why AIU tried to divide the abstract versus the practical because he concedes that in the practical, he himself said that it'll take many, many, many generations.

00:53:36.000 For us to even begin to disarm the United States.

00:53:39.000 And I'm saying that proposition, before you even consider it in the abstract, pragmatically, at least in the present day, it's ridiculous.

00:53:46.000 But I would, I'm not even against guns.

00:53:47.000 So I don't say too late, like, oh no, we missed our chance to be disarmed eunuchs, subjects of the state, where the police, you know, coddle us from cradle to grave.

00:53:56.000 I think that's a bad thing.

00:53:57.000 But even if you do want to control the guns, it's already, you know, it's a lost cause.

00:54:01.000 Let's just, for the record, state, and I'll just illustrate this for the audience, who we're dealing with here.

00:54:05.000 Nick, a question.

00:54:06.000 Here we go.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, let's see.

00:54:08.000 Do you think, I mean, I already know the answer, but do you think owning a gun is required in case it becomes necessary to fight against the government one day?

00:54:13.000 Of course, yeah.

00:54:14.000 You're a very condescending person.

00:54:16.000 There you go.

00:54:17.000 Yeah, okay.

00:54:18.000 JF, JF, go ahead. 0.94

00:54:20.000 Good luck when you live in Australia, when you live under Sharia law without a firearm. 0.76

00:54:25.000 And it brings us back to your hypothetical, AI.

00:54:29.000 Maybe you can find it.

00:54:31.000 Your hypothetical island example, where you said maybe the solution is to give the gun to one of the 25 people.

00:54:38.000 I bet you.

00:54:39.000 That in a hundred years or in 500 years, there's two million people on the island, and the descendants of the guy who had the right to own guns is the state and he's violating the rights of individuals on the island.

00:54:50.000 Wow, healthy amount of fear you have.

00:54:53.000 Wow, you guys are independent contractors who just live in the country, huh?

00:54:59.000 I mean, JF wants to start his own country, he wants Quebec to be its own thing, he wants a white ethno state.

00:55:04.000 So it's like he's not really trap no state, trap no state.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, great, you're right, man, trap no state.

00:55:12.000 Okay, so let's talk.

00:55:15.000 And before we move on, I want to bring back a point that you said, and producer Chris sends us $100 US.

00:55:20.000 He says, how about instead of wars in the Middle East, we offered $14,000 per gun turned into the government indefinitely.

00:55:34.000 P.S. Devon Hans Brown Buffaloes on the daily, Germany forever.

00:55:39.000 True.

00:55:41.000 When I went with you on the field of IDs, you did something that was very shocking to me.

00:55:48.000 You went to the pragmatic aspect.

00:55:51.000 Because you seem to define the right to own weapons as the status quo of a given country.

00:55:56.000 And when I was trying to engage with you on the philosophical abstract question, you said, well, it all depends on the country you're in, because right now Americans have guns and they own guns, therefore it's a right right now.

00:56:08.000 To me, rights, they don't depend on the status quo.

00:56:11.000 Rights are a fundamental idea that's independent of the current state of countries.

00:56:16.000 And when the state violates my rights, I'm not talking about rights that exist.

00:56:21.000 Because they were written on a piece of paper two days ago.

00:56:24.000 I'm talking about the fact that me, as a biological being on this planet, there is no one who can enter my home and tell me what to do and control my actions.

00:56:34.000 That's what I'm right here.

00:56:35.000 Of course, there are.

00:56:36.000 The government and the police could control your actions.

00:56:38.000 You can't do whatever you want.

00:56:39.000 You can't just say, I can't.

00:56:40.000 I can't fight against this. 1.00

00:56:43.000 Okay, and you'll die. 0.98

00:56:43.000 Yeah, this was called Waco, Texas. 0.98

00:56:46.000 This exists in a state of the United States.

00:56:48.000 And that's what some people, that's the price people are willing to pay for their liberty.

00:56:51.000 I think it's a big deal.

00:56:52.000 So you guys are nut jobs like the dudes in Waco, Texas.

00:56:54.000 So, why don't you just order a bazooka?

00:56:57.000 There it is again.

00:56:58.000 Declare that you don't have to abide by anybody.

00:57:01.000 You can't take my God given right to defend myself.

00:57:04.000 Then, why can't you own a bazooka?

00:57:05.000 Go try buying a bazooka and then explain that to the police when they hit.

00:57:09.000 It's about a reasonable right to defend yourself.

00:57:12.000 And that's what it is with the Second Amendment.

00:57:14.000 It's a right, it's a natural right.

00:57:17.000 And it proceeds from the idea of self ownership.

00:57:21.000 The Second Amendment, the right to own firearms, is not arbitrary, it proceeds from a series of rights that.

00:57:26.000 If you understand that you own yourself, if you understand that you, and this could either be a religious perspective, for me, it's a religious perspective.

00:57:33.000 For you, I guess you'd have to find some convoluted technocratic way to justify it.

00:57:38.000 But if you understand that you own yourself and you understand that you own the fruits of your labor, you own your life, you own your labor, you own your liberty, then you understand that you must necessarily, to own it, be able to protect it, be able to defend it against individuals, against the state, against organizations.

00:57:57.000 And that's why we have, it's not a mere, I have firearms.

00:57:59.000 You have a right to.

00:58:01.000 But I know that's a silly anachronism in the 21st century under the United Nations Governorate of Civilization.

00:58:08.000 Please, please, Commander Sheckelstein, can I have my guns? 1.00

00:58:12.000 Please, Commander Blue Helmet, may I defend myself today against Muslim rape gangs? 1.00

00:58:17.000 Please. 1.00

00:58:20.000 So you were talking about if the state comes, right, and you want to defend yourself against.

00:58:25.000 Yes.

00:58:26.000 Yeah.

00:58:27.000 Do you think the only way to really battle the state wouldn't it be to have a Bunch of people who have guns to battle them.

00:58:36.000 Yes. 0.98

00:58:37.000 Like, how are you going to convince your neighbors, like, yo, John, by the way, on Tuesday, we're going to fucking battle the state? 0.94

00:58:44.000 Like, do you think there's. 0.82

00:58:45.000 Yeah, it's happened before.

00:58:46.000 All right, all right, cool.

00:58:47.000 And it'll commence again.

00:58:49.000 1776 will commence.

00:58:52.000 It's true, but it's true.

00:58:54.000 We have to be able to do it.

00:58:54.000 It's true.

00:58:56.000 Just the sheer idea that we have guns, that makes us able to protect against the government and also against foreign powers.

00:59:06.000 This is hysterical.

00:59:07.000 The government's not going to come get you.

00:59:08.000 Not America.

00:59:09.000 Maybe in your world. 0.54

00:59:11.000 It depends on your threshold.

00:59:13.000 It depends on your tolerance of state intervention.

00:59:16.000 You should have a little faith in our government and the checks and balances.

00:59:16.000 You're a man of faith.

00:59:20.000 Not in government.

00:59:22.000 The government does a terrible job, AIU.

00:59:24.000 Yeah.

00:59:25.000 At what?

00:59:26.000 At educating children, at family courts, at making DVPs against men who do not commit crimes and finding them systematically guilty in the absence of evidence.

00:59:38.000 The government is doing terrible.

00:59:40.000 I'll agree with you on that, but what are you going to do? 0.98

00:59:42.000 Shoot them? 0.99

00:59:43.000 You're going to be like, guys, I don't like the way you do this and go with a gun and start shooting them? 1.00

00:59:46.000 I'm going to move two hours north out of any civilization.

00:59:50.000 I'm going to build a little square on the land.

00:59:52.000 And if anyone comes in to stop me from doing what I want, I will shoot without looking. 0.83

00:59:59.000 I'll be right there with you, JF. 0.98

01:00:00.000 I'll be right there with you.

01:00:01.000 We'll form our own.

01:00:04.000 Guys, you're going out in a blaze of glory.

01:00:06.000 I agree that people should have a reasonable right to defend themselves.

01:00:12.000 And I'm in favor of peace.

01:00:13.000 We're on the same side here, guys.

01:00:14.000 We all want no death, no murder, right?

01:00:17.000 So it's just an issue of I think guns are not reasonable.

01:00:21.000 I just don't think that it's.

01:00:23.000 The most effective way to set up a society.

01:00:25.000 Now, which brings me to the question if we can develop a stun gun or some sort of taser that actually works and is proven to be an efficient way to disable an attacker, would you be willing to swap that out with your guns?

01:00:41.000 No, never.

01:00:42.000 So you don't want, okay, so because you want to be on the offense, you want to have the ability to go offensive, not just be defensive.

01:00:48.000 Because there's no going back in terms of firearms.

01:00:52.000 I mean, I'll give you a taser, I get a gun.

01:00:55.000 And does that sound like a fair deal?

01:00:57.000 Would you enter into an octagon and I have a gun and you have a taser?

01:01:00.000 There's always going to be guns.

01:01:02.000 Okay, so now we're into the American discussion.

01:01:05.000 So I've established that I think it's wildly superior and it's the reason why America gets laughed at by the rest of the world.

01:01:11.000 Other societies have set up better systems.

01:01:13.000 But America, you're right. 0.97

01:01:14.000 If you have a stun gun, a guy with a gun, he could kill you. 0.99

01:01:16.000 Sure.

01:01:16.000 Well, even in Australia, the government has guns, the police has guns, right?

01:01:20.000 Let's go.

01:01:20.000 The government knocks on your door one day and says, you're not allowed to do YouTube videos anymore.

01:01:24.000 Freedom of speech is canceled.

01:01:26.000 Are you going to?

01:01:27.000 Here's my zap, zip.

01:01:29.000 I'm going to zap, go, go.

01:01:30.000 Yeah, I'm going to form a militia and we will tase the military.

01:01:35.000 I mean, we live in a world, I'm not talking about America.

01:01:37.000 We live in a world with guns.

01:01:38.000 The state has guns.

01:01:40.000 We, to defend ourselves against the state, have to have parity with at least what any soldier is going to have.

01:01:45.000 How do you feel about it?

01:01:46.000 It has to be someone reasonable.

01:01:48.000 I mean, look at, I love that.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:01:51.000 Your fear is preposterous.

01:01:52.000 This is insane.

01:01:53.000 This is like LARPing fantasy talk.

01:01:55.000 But I want to hear Nick Fuentes versus the U.S. military.

01:01:57.000 Please go.

01:01:58.000 Tell me how that looks.

01:01:59.000 First of all, it's not.

01:02:00.000 LARPing fantasy talk.

01:02:01.000 It's happening in the UK where a guy was sent to jail for a YouTube video he made.

01:02:05.000 Yeah, sure it is.

01:02:06.000 I mean, they live in tyranny over there and there's no end in sight.

01:02:09.000 But on the ground.

01:02:11.000 Do you think Count Dankula should have shot the cops who came for him?

01:02:14.000 That's what you're saying.

01:02:15.000 I think that the UK is far gone and they should fight for their sovereignty because they are a very specific country.

01:02:22.000 If you are Count Dankula and you make a video and the cops show up at your door, you will shoot them?

01:02:26.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:02:27.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:02:28.000 And it's kind of.

01:02:29.000 I think it's you're being disingenuous.

01:02:31.000 No.

01:02:31.000 I think what we have in the United Kingdom.

01:02:33.000 Yeah, well, to demonstrate that the United Kingdom is under tyranny.

01:02:37.000 I think you have it that there's no threshold where you would die for your liberty.

01:02:43.000 You would accept just about anything.

01:02:45.000 And here's why I say that, excuse me.

01:02:46.000 Why I say that is because the UK is so far gone in terms of you don't have freedom of speech there.

01:02:51.000 You can't demonstrate.

01:02:52.000 You can't protest.

01:02:53.000 They don't have a free press.

01:02:54.000 They're under a supranational government.

01:02:56.000 They can't get out of it because they're capitalist owned.

01:02:59.000 And at what point does a people say and stand up for their sovereignty and defend themselves?

01:03:04.000 At some point, Devin.

01:03:06.000 There has to be killing. 0.94

01:03:07.000 At some point, there has to be deaths. 0.65

01:03:09.000 Some things are worth dying for. 1.00

01:03:11.000 And you can make fun of that, but that's why you live in a place like Australia, where you're going to get maybe your family is going to come under attack by Muslim rape gangs. 1.00

01:03:19.000 Who knows? 0.99

01:03:20.000 But in the case of Hollywood, yeah.

01:03:24.000 Something tells me, ARU, that the liberties that you enjoy have been created and maintained by people like Nick.

01:03:31.000 True.

01:03:32.000 True.

01:03:33.000 Psychotic individuals with guns?

01:03:33.000 What?

01:03:36.000 No.

01:03:37.000 Do you think that the founders of America would have abandoned their liberty to have guns?

01:03:45.000 Yes.

01:03:45.000 I believe the founders, if they knew the situation today and what guns have evolved into, And just what the situation is.

01:03:51.000 We're not looking to form minute man armies to fight off the British.

01:03:55.000 We have an army.

01:03:56.000 We have, you know, we don't need this.

01:03:57.000 This is just random chaos.

01:04:00.000 This is carnage.

01:04:01.000 It's unnecessary.

01:04:02.000 So I'm not, and also it's not, you know, an appeal to the founding fathers. 0.98

01:04:05.000 The founding fathers were fucked up and wrong about a million things. 0.93

01:04:07.000 So I'm not that convinced. 0.96

01:04:08.000 But you didn't create the liberties that you enjoyed as a kid when you were in America, right?

01:04:12.000 What liberties?

01:04:13.000 Oh, so I should get on my knees and thank them and be like, thank you.

01:04:19.000 I agree with that.

01:04:22.000 It may sound ridiculous, but it's a liberty you wouldn't even have in France, for example. 0.74

01:04:27.000 You couldn't call St. Juger a brown buffalo. 0.72

01:04:31.000 Okay, but that's not the issue of guns.

01:04:32.000 I believe in free speech.

01:04:33.000 Now, you guys bring up Count Dankula.

01:04:35.000 I agree with your stance on it.

01:04:36.000 I think it's absurd.

01:04:37.000 But here's what should happen and what will happen he's going to get a sentence handed down.

01:04:44.000 And there's been a huge backlash, and Scotland is going to be shamed for this.

01:04:47.000 And maybe one day we'll have a vote, and this is democracy, and we'll change the laws and hopefully get a free speech bill or something passed. 0.99

01:04:54.000 The UK, and we'll do it civilized in a peaceful manner, as opposed to these little dorks pulling out their guns and going, Fuck these coppers, we're going out. 1.00

01:05:01.000 I mean, maybe this has something. 0.99

01:05:03.000 Is it tied to height here?

01:05:05.000 Like, do you have to be over six feet tall to not live in fear?

01:05:08.000 I don't get it, guys.

01:05:09.000 Come on.

01:05:10.000 You keep going.

01:05:10.000 I think it's just fear.

01:05:12.000 Yeah, right.

01:05:13.000 It is fear.

01:05:13.000 I think it's just fear.

01:05:14.000 You guys have fear.

01:05:15.000 It's palpable.

01:05:16.000 No, no, you can taste it.

01:05:18.000 If you're an egghead, does that mean that you must be a government drone?

01:05:21.000 You must be a supplicant subject of the state? 0.74

01:05:24.000 Because I really just don't.

01:05:26.000 I think the difference here, and this underlies the difference in this is why you voted for Hillary Clinton, this is why you are the way that you are, which is kind of this insufferable, like atheist liberal, is because you reject human nature.

01:05:40.000 You think that for anybody to be insecure about their safety, for them to want to secure the existence of their people and a future for their children, they're afraid.

01:05:50.000 And being afraid, being uncertain about external threats should be shamed, should be laughed at.

01:05:58.000 Don't you know the state is there to protect you?

01:06:00.000 At a certain point, I don't want the government to redress my sovereign rights with a vote.

01:06:05.000 You know, well, maybe in 10 years, the government will allow a vote and I'll be allowed to speak again.

01:06:10.000 We believe that some things are intrinsic to who we are.

01:06:14.000 And JF believes that there's some natural rights doctrine.

01:06:17.000 I believe it's God given rights that have to be defended, that have to be secured through force, through the long arm of a rifle.

01:06:25.000 That's the only way in the world.

01:06:28.000 No, it's not.

01:06:28.000 And I don't understand how you just keep bringing up free speech as if it's.

01:06:31.000 A contended thing.

01:06:32.000 Like, I agree.

01:06:33.000 Yeah, free speech is great.

01:06:34.000 So, free speech is important. 0.77

01:06:35.000 Therefore, I should get guns.

01:06:37.000 What are you talking about?

01:06:38.000 How about free speech without guns, like every other modern nation does?

01:06:41.000 Free speech.

01:06:42.000 Yeah.

01:06:42.000 Well, yeah.

01:06:43.000 UK really has free speech, right?

01:06:45.000 Where you go out and you demonstrate against.

01:06:47.000 Well, to varying degrees.

01:06:48.000 And you're either thrown in jail or forced off the street.

01:06:50.000 And do you think that's going to get better or worse?

01:06:52.000 Well, I can see it.

01:06:53.000 America is better on free speech than Europe and the rest of the modern world.

01:06:56.000 And they could use to improve that.

01:06:58.000 But it's vice versa when it comes to guns.

01:07:01.000 But the reason, I think you don't really understand the.

01:07:01.000 Yeah.

01:07:05.000 I don't think you understand that free speech and these rights, they didn't come from nowhere.

01:07:08.000 They're not a given.

01:07:09.000 You kind of take them for granted.

01:07:11.000 They had to be established through force. 0.99

01:07:13.000 And even, even the genesis of the Second Amendment is in the Glorious Revolution, where James II in the UK tried to disarm the Protestants, those frats. 0.84

01:07:22.000 He tried to disarm the Protestants. 0.87

01:07:24.000 And after the Glorious Revolution, they, they affirmed the right. 0.80

01:07:28.000 They observed a right to own firearms.

01:07:31.000 They didn't write that down on a piece of paper.

01:07:33.000 They didn't establish it through government.

01:07:35.000 They observed a God-given right to own firearms because people's liberties were being violated by the king.

01:07:42.000 And that's the only way you get rights.

01:07:43.000 That's why they're going back.

01:07:44.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:07:45.000 No, it doesn't make sense at all.

01:07:46.000 You can have free speech without citizens owning guns.

01:07:49.000 No, you can't. 0.91

01:07:50.000 You can't.

01:07:51.000 You don't have it in all.

01:07:53.000 In principle, you can.

01:07:55.000 You can think of an hypothetical in which it would exist.

01:07:58.000 But the reality is that the cost for a government to invade on individual liberties is rooted in the deterrent effect of many people being able to resist those acts of violence.

01:08:11.000 No, through democratic means.

01:08:13.000 Yeah, through civilized means.

01:08:15.000 But what if the democracy doesn't converge toward protecting individual liberties?

01:08:20.000 Let me ask you this Do you think that Gandhi and Martin Luther King should have armed themselves and fought with violence?

01:08:30.000 I mean, they wouldn't be in my group, so I wouldn't favor another group winning like this and fighting against me.

01:08:38.000 But to generalize your case and to give you an answer, yes, I do think that violent revolutions is sometimes warranted.

01:08:44.000 Okay.

01:08:45.000 So.

01:08:45.000 Yeah.

01:08:46.000 So they were just not going full bore.

01:08:46.000 Right.

01:08:48.000 They should have.

01:08:49.000 What was Gandhi and Martin Luther King doing?

01:08:51.000 I mean, nonviolent protests, what is that?

01:08:53.000 How did they do that?

01:08:55.000 Do you want to know why they did that, though?

01:08:57.000 If you stop giggling and think for a second, the reason that they had to do that, the reason, because they did not have the means to do it.

01:09:05.000 Because they did not have.

01:09:06.000 It's true.

01:09:07.000 I mean, tell me how else.

01:09:08.000 Tell me how else means to overthrow the United States government.

01:09:11.000 So when the U.S. government under dictator Hillary Clinton is going to come for you, do you have the means to.

01:09:17.000 Overthrow and topple the U.S. military?

01:09:18.000 Not individually.

01:09:19.000 Not individually.

01:09:20.000 If I were to play with individual liberties, you might very well have parts of the army revolting against the government.

01:09:27.000 You might very well have absolutely.

01:09:30.000 A military coup in the United States.

01:09:32.000 Okay.

01:09:33.000 Guys, this sounds a little bit crazy.

01:09:36.000 We've been around for 240 years.

01:09:36.000 You don't know.

01:09:40.000 We've got a long time.

01:09:42.000 Long time on this planet.

01:09:44.000 We're the exception.

01:09:47.000 He's ready to pull out the gun.

01:09:49.000 I'm ready to pull out the gun.

01:09:51.000 Yeah, well.

01:09:51.000 Well, because here's why.

01:09:52.000 I mean, AIU manifests something that is very real, which is kind of this laughing modernist, democratic.

01:10:03.000 We have this big belief in humanity.

01:10:05.000 We can do it through democracy.

01:10:07.000 And it's a fundamental rejection of our nature.

01:10:10.000 Sometimes, Devin, civilized men must do uncivilized things.

01:10:16.000 That's the world we live in.

01:10:17.000 And you can, maybe that's funny.

01:10:19.000 Maybe that's a joke.

01:10:20.000 I'm probably not the man.

01:10:22.000 I'm the man who will lead the men.

01:10:24.000 But you, I think you deride your own nature.

01:10:28.000 You deride humanity. 0.87

01:10:29.000 I don't know if it's because you're an egg man eunuch. 0.98

01:10:32.000 I don't know if it's, I don't know what it is.

01:10:34.000 But I mean, these European countries, they have no idea what's coming.

01:10:38.000 Anti civilization is on their doorstep, and they can't do a thing about it because they've been disarmed by their government.

01:10:44.000 Wow, that's really righteous fear mongering.

01:10:47.000 Have you ever lived here? 1.00

01:10:49.000 You're such a jerk, dude. 1.00

01:10:51.000 You come on here, and I think it's rich because you come on here and you say, I don't want to have a debate. 1.00

01:10:55.000 I want to have a conversation.

01:10:57.000 I'm not going to be able to change anybody's mind because you don't come up with your facts.

01:11:01.000 But then you're going to be nasty.

01:11:03.000 You're going to be condescending.

01:11:04.000 You're going to laugh.

01:11:05.000 You don't even engage in the idea that someone would have a different Hobbesian instead of a Lockean.

01:11:10.000 Have you ever lived in Europe?

01:11:12.000 I've never lived in Europe, thankfully, and I never will.

01:11:14.000 Right.

01:11:15.000 So, but what were you saying about Europe?

01:11:16.000 It's about to be overthrown. 1.00

01:11:17.000 It's about to be overtaken by the uncitizen. 1.00

01:11:21.000 And so, what do we need? 1.00

01:11:21.000 Right. 1.00

01:11:22.000 We need to arm the citizens.

01:11:23.000 Yes, you need to arm the citizens.

01:11:25.000 Absolutely.

01:11:26.000 You think the citizens over there want to be armed?

01:11:27.000 You think that's.

01:11:28.000 I don't know if they want to, but I think they will want to in 50 years.

01:11:32.000 Yeah.

01:11:32.000 It's very weird.

01:11:33.000 I don't know why you're spurging out.

01:11:35.000 I mean, now I see why Andy would bring me on here because I had no idea you were this far off the reservation, but I'll try to.

01:11:43.000 Gain some semblance.

01:11:44.000 This is all you have.

01:11:45.000 All you have is this condescension, but go ahead.

01:11:48.000 Let's hear it.

01:11:48.000 Okay.

01:11:49.000 Oh my God, this is so retarded. 1.00

01:11:51.000 Andy, here it is again. 1.00

01:11:52.000 Here it is.

01:11:53.000 I didn't mean to.

01:11:54.000 Sorry.

01:11:55.000 Let's discuss something of some worth.

01:11:58.000 Let's say you have a 10 year old today in America.

01:12:03.000 In seven years, eight years, he's going to be dumped by his girlfriend.

01:12:05.000 He's going to be upset.

01:12:06.000 He's going to be distraught.

01:12:08.000 He goes out.

01:12:08.000 He goes, you know what?

01:12:09.000 Let me go get a gun.

01:12:09.000 Here's an idea.

01:12:11.000 My kind of guy.

01:12:13.000 Oh my God.

01:12:14.000 Go on. 1.00

01:12:14.000 He wants to go out, kill people, and kill himself because he feels he doesn't matter and he's going to flame out of this world. 1.00

01:12:21.000 What can we do right now to prevent that guy in eight to nine, ten years from having easy access to a gun? 0.76

01:12:27.000 Do you think that's a good idea or should we do nothing?

01:12:30.000 Well, I don't think there's anything realistically that you can do. 0.99

01:12:34.000 You can raise the age requirement. 1.00

01:12:35.000 I mean, you can do that. 0.98

01:12:37.000 So why don't you do that?

01:12:38.000 What is your argument against raising the minimum age to 25?

01:12:42.000 I think people who have not committed a crime yet, I think their right to own a firearm supersedes.

01:12:48.000 Somebody who's going to commit a crime.

01:12:51.000 Unfortunately, you're going to have people committing crimes with guns.

01:12:54.000 That's the sad fact of the matter.

01:12:56.000 But are we going to abridge the rights of 330 million people because a handful of people are going to commit crimes?

01:13:03.000 I mean, this is one case where you have somebody who maybe they don't have a mental health record.

01:13:08.000 I don't know if they're going to go and kill somebody, they might.

01:13:11.000 They don't have a criminal record, so they're passing their background check and they get the firearm.

01:13:16.000 And in the worst case scenario, maybe the girlfriend's armed.

01:13:19.000 And she can defend herself.

01:13:20.000 But these things are going to happen.

01:13:23.000 That doesn't negate the fact that we have a right to own firearms.

01:13:26.000 He's not killing the girlfriend.

01:13:27.000 He's killing everybody else. 0.77

01:13:28.000 He's killing innocent people.

01:13:30.000 So, why is there any minimum age for guns? 0.87

01:13:33.000 Why can't 16 year olds go get guns? 0.76

01:13:35.000 Well, the same reason there's a minimum age to vote and to drink so that you have. 0.84

01:13:39.000 Don't they have rights?

01:13:40.000 Don't they have these caveman primal rights to defend themselves?

01:13:44.000 The liberty?

01:13:45.000 What happened to that?

01:13:45.000 And also, well, but you understand that these things are not absolute.

01:13:49.000 You understand that at a certain point, You know, this is why we have age of consent rules because we understand that when people are still developing, they can't properly consent.

01:13:57.000 In the same way, when people are still developing, they can't properly exercise their rights.

01:14:02.000 We don't live in an individualist society, we live in a family society.

01:14:05.000 And so.

01:14:06.000 Okay, so people's brains do not fully develop until they're 25.

01:14:08.000 You can't rent a car until you're 25.

01:14:10.000 Don't you think that would be a nice.

01:14:12.000 You can't.

01:14:13.000 Should we wait for people to drive until they're 25?

01:14:16.000 No, but I'd consider raising it to 18.

01:14:18.000 Sure.

01:14:18.000 I'll consider it.

01:14:19.000 Why not 25?

01:14:20.000 Their brains don't finish developing until they're 25.

01:14:22.000 Well, because.

01:14:23.000 Because cars are not as lethal and destitute.

01:14:26.000 What about employment?

01:14:27.000 Should people be able to get a job until they're 25?

01:14:30.000 It's totally irrelevant and pointless.

01:14:33.000 I don't know why you'd even say that.

01:14:38.000 I think it's a pretty arbitrary number to say that 25, the brain still develops.

01:14:45.000 It's a random thing.

01:14:46.000 It has no relation to consent, it's a biological fact.

01:14:50.000 Biologists will tell you that.

01:14:52.000 But in fact, what we need to do is observe the capacity of people to make good decisions.

01:14:57.000 And at the moment, we are at 18.

01:15:00.000 Personally, I favor maintaining that.

01:15:03.000 But I recognize that it's a totally arbitrary line that we have to draw.

01:15:07.000 We decided to do it at 18.

01:15:09.000 Well, let me tell you something.

01:15:10.000 The number one age range of people that commit homicide with guns is 18 to 24.

01:15:17.000 That's the number one group.

01:15:19.000 Now, in second place for many years, the second place group was 14 to 17.

01:15:23.000 So we're talking about young people who are volatile, who have that testosterone going, who are just not as mature and chilled out.

01:15:32.000 So I can't understand why that wouldn't be a very good angle to start to talk about lessening the random.

01:15:39.000 Mayhem that we see.

01:15:42.000 I have an idea.

01:15:43.000 Do you want to know my idea, Devin?

01:15:45.000 You know, these young kids, they've got that evil testosterone pumping through their veins, filling them with masculine urges.

01:15:45.000 Oh, God.

01:15:54.000 I propose we put endocrine disruptors in the food. 0.99

01:15:57.000 We put fluoride in the water. 0.97

01:15:59.000 So maybe we can castrate them when they're young.

01:16:02.000 So this is where you go full MGTOW and think that, like, I'm assaulting your man. 1.00

01:16:06.000 Listen, you little munchkin.

01:16:08.000 Get this in your MGTOW Discord later.

01:16:08.000 This is not.

01:16:11.000 You're spurging out.

01:16:12.000 You're spurging out, big guy.

01:16:14.000 Just making a little joke.

01:16:15.000 Just making a little joke.

01:16:16.000 Knowing you get upset.

01:16:17.000 Okay, but you're aware that this is a male problem, right?

01:16:19.000 Like, we're talking about men. 0.79

01:16:21.000 Well, yeah, sure.

01:16:22.000 I mean, violence, I don't know if it's a problem.

01:16:24.000 I think violence is the male proclivity.

01:16:27.000 Sure.

01:16:28.000 Yes.

01:16:28.000 Okay, so we're young and old.

01:16:31.000 The YouTube shooter was a woman, right? 1.00

01:16:33.000 Exception to the rule, correct. 1.00

01:16:34.000 So I think it's a very reasonable thing to say 25, and I think somebody should put that up.

01:16:39.000 And for debate, obviously, with the gun situation in America, we can't even get the terrorist watch list people off.

01:16:45.000 But by bracketing in age, the same arguments still apply.

01:16:49.000 There are 18 to 25 years old people who you will violate their right.

01:16:54.000 They haven't committed crimes.

01:16:56.000 There's no reason to limit their ability to defend.

01:16:58.000 JF, we're talking about changing people's rights.

01:17:01.000 Yes, I don't think this is a right they should have.

01:17:03.000 I oppose that.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, before we even debate on the pragmatic.

01:17:09.000 Halsey sends you a message.

01:17:11.000 Thanks, Halsey, for the donation.

01:17:13.000 50 bucks, man.

01:17:13.000 Appreciate it.

01:17:14.000 Did Nick cut himself on his faggot pocket knife because it wasn't a machete, Mexicano? 1.00

01:17:20.000 Classic, classic Halsey. 1.00

01:17:22.000 I think he's still upset. 0.99

01:17:23.000 I think he's still reeling from the ass kicking that I delivered him. 0.97

01:17:27.000 Hey, you know, Halsey, Halsey, maybe you could have me on your show. 0.98

01:17:31.000 I'll cut my hand and you'll get a hundred times the audience you usually do because I know, you know, but anywho, enough time for the fat boomer.

01:17:41.000 Of course.

01:17:42.000 We spent enough time on that gentleman.

01:17:44.000 John Richard, $25 US. 1.00

01:17:46.000 Says, Godless idiot with the endless straw man argument. 0.98

01:17:50.000 Blunderbuss, $20 Canadian, says, A.I.U., why mock creationist contradiction when modern scientists flip flop somewhere between A, skin is only human organ to divergently evolve, and B, the brain is only human organ which has not divergently evolved? 0.99

01:18:09.000 The question seems too complex for me.

01:18:12.000 I don't know what he meant exactly there.

01:18:18.000 And we have, yeah, this song I read out.

01:18:20.000 I have to say, this is really entertaining.

01:18:22.000 This is very entertaining.

01:18:24.000 I'll say right now, I'm not like, with either, like, I'm torn.

01:18:29.000 Like, I get what you guys are saying, like, Nick and JF, but I also get what AIU is saying.

01:18:37.000 But I do think that America is.

01:18:39.000 You guys are no centrist.

01:18:41.000 Because I live in Canada and we don't have guns, right?

01:18:45.000 And I think someone donated, I'll try and find who said it, but.

01:18:48.000 The GTA, which is Toronto and area, has had 30 homicides in one year with, I think it was 5.5 million population.

01:18:59.000 New York has 8.8 and had 300 homicides. 1.00

01:19:06.000 And they have the same ratio of minorities, right? 0.98

01:19:10.000 So, I mean, percentage wise, there's a lot more murder in New York.

01:19:17.000 What's the composition of the minorities?

01:19:19.000 Are we talking?

01:19:20.000 Because Canada has a lot of East Asian immigrants as opposed to New York, which is a little bit of a different mix.

01:19:26.000 There, though. 0.95

01:19:27.000 So, yeah, that couldn't.

01:19:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:30.000 You guys got to.

01:19:31.000 I don't know.

01:19:32.000 It's not funny like that.

01:19:34.000 But someone being shot here, it's like.

01:19:38.000 It's like an occasion because it never happens.

01:19:41.000 Someone was shot.

01:19:43.000 Someone was shot once, like, what, four months ago, like a few blocks away. 1.00

01:19:48.000 And I was like, what the fuck? 0.97

01:19:49.000 I never heard that, like, a shooting near my area. 0.99

01:19:53.000 So I don't know.

01:19:55.000 I'm torn.

01:19:56.000 I'm torn. 0.99

01:19:56.000 I know the audience is going to shit on me now. 0.99

01:19:58.000 Cook Andy. 0.99

01:19:59.000 I don't live with guns.

01:20:01.000 I don't have one.

01:20:02.000 Never shot one in my life.

01:20:04.000 So I don't know.

01:20:07.000 If I lived in the States, though, I'd buy one.

01:20:10.000 You gotta have them.

01:20:11.000 I'd buy a shoddy. 0.97

01:20:13.000 I'd fucking, I wanna make sure I paint the walls. 0.98

01:20:16.000 You know what I mean? 0.96

01:20:17.000 My man, my man Andy.

01:20:20.000 We gotta have two or three or four or 40, who knows?

01:20:23.000 But that's the great thing about this country.

01:20:25.000 You're allowed to defend yourself.

01:20:27.000 That's what it comes down to, it comes down to at the end of the day, when push comes to shove, I can defend my life and my property.

01:20:36.000 That's all I see it as.

01:20:37.000 You know, people who want gun control, They want to deprive your right to defend yourself.

01:20:43.000 And whether you think that's, oh, no, they want less murders, at the end of the day, in effect, that's what they do.

01:20:48.000 They say you cannot defend yourself properly.

01:20:51.000 And I think that's just wrong.

01:20:54.000 You just want to know where our intentional homicide rate is?

01:20:57.000 What?

01:20:58.000 They listed out all the countries.

01:20:59.000 And the countries next to us, you want to take a guess at who's next to us on that list?

01:21:03.000 Who?

01:21:07.000 Kazakhstan, Somalia, and Rwanda. 0.99

01:21:12.000 That's not good, guys. 0.99

01:21:13.000 I think we could do better than that.

01:21:15.000 The country I'm living in right now, what's next to them is Denmark, one of the happiest places on earth.

01:21:22.000 Have you separated out the murder rate by race?

01:21:25.000 What?

01:21:25.000 It doesn't matter.

01:21:26.000 The races are the races, but it does matter.

01:21:28.000 Why? 0.78

01:21:29.000 Because the homicides, I'll tell you why.

01:21:31.000 Because the homicides, they're not happening.

01:21:33.000 You have this weird thing where the United States is like it's tomato soup, it's just uniform.

01:21:38.000 But actually, where the homicides are happening, it's not in Wyoming, it's not in Montana, it's not in most of Colorado. 0.99

01:21:45.000 It's happening in In cities, in neighborhoods where you have lots of non whites. 0.94

01:21:49.000 And when you separate it out, it's not a gun problem, it's a demographic problem. 0.98

01:21:53.000 Idaho, where it's mostly white, where it's in many ways a lot like Denmark and otherwise, it has the same homicide right, even though they have many, many guns and they have permitless constitutional carry.

01:22:04.000 And you keep saying, oh, but they're part of the country too. 0.67

01:22:07.000 Yeah, got it.

01:22:08.000 But when we're trying to separate out causation, why are crimes happening?

01:22:12.000 How can we prevent it?

01:22:13.000 Okay, Nick, it's not an argument you're making.

01:22:15.000 Really?

01:22:16.000 I get it.

01:22:16.000 Okay.

01:22:17.000 There's a disproportionate rate of criminal activity by the races. 0.96

01:22:20.000 Random point. 0.97

01:22:21.000 But within those groups, if you arm those people, there will be more murders.

01:22:25.000 Do you understand that?

01:22:28.000 Yeah, I understand that. 0.99

01:22:29.000 Okay, so I grant you that it's going to be blacks in Chicago killing more than whites in Chicago. 0.99

01:22:34.000 But I'm saying if those blacks had less guns, there'd be less death. 1.00

01:22:38.000 Yeah, but they purchased them illegally. 1.00

01:22:39.000 Number one, they purchased them illegally.

01:22:41.000 Number two, you're punishing people who don't commit crimes, who are perfectly capable, where they're, you know, Andy says it's a scandal when someone's shot in Canada.

01:22:50.000 It's a scandal when someone's shot.

01:22:52.000 It's never happened in my neighborhood.

01:22:54.000 I live about, well, I'm not going to say, but I live near Chicago.

01:22:57.000 And I don't think I remember a single shot ever being fired anywhere near where I live.

01:23:03.000 And that's because even though people own guns, the demographics are great.

01:23:07.000 And so the point being that you're going to say, I can't properly defend myself.

01:23:11.000 People who've never committed crimes can't defend our life and our property from home invasion or whatever else because certain groups of people can't handle it.

01:23:20.000 Can't handle it.

01:23:21.000 So I'm going to spare everyone the base. 0.99

01:23:23.000 I'm in favor of all the gun control arguments, limiting the type of gun, so not have military grade weaponry, better vetting, gun show loophole, all that shit. 0.91

01:23:32.000 I'm in favor of all it.

01:23:33.000 What I want to ask this guy is.

01:23:36.000 Aside from everybody getting guns as your solution to stopping gun violence, what other forms of gun control?

01:23:45.000 That's you.

01:23:46.000 Go ahead, though.

01:23:47.000 Go ahead.

01:23:48.000 Brilliant.

01:23:49.000 No, I don't.

01:23:50.000 You're really other forms of gun control.

01:23:54.000 I just laugh.

01:23:55.000 I scoff.

01:23:56.000 You want rights to guns.

01:24:00.000 But I'm Professor Civilization.

01:24:02.000 Go ahead, though.

01:24:03.000 Go ahead.

01:24:03.000 I'm sorry, I have to.

01:24:04.000 You make me laugh.

01:24:05.000 You make me laugh.

01:24:05.000 But go ahead.

01:24:06.000 That's, wow, you're really a special one.

01:24:09.000 Now, what other forms of gun control would you be in favor of?

01:24:13.000 Any sort of change.

01:24:15.000 So you think America's nailing it.

01:24:17.000 Perfect, guys.

01:24:18.000 You're great.

01:24:19.000 There's no problem, guys.

01:24:20.000 But anything less gun control, less gun control.

01:24:23.000 Roll it back.

01:24:24.000 Nothing.

01:24:25.000 You don't want anything.

01:24:26.000 Not even the terrorist watch list.

01:24:27.000 You don't care about that.

01:24:28.000 No, no, no.

01:24:29.000 Don't even care about that.

01:24:30.000 You want guys like Omar Mateen to be able to get guns, even though he was investigated by the FBI.

01:24:35.000 Well, I think the FBI should have looked into his case a little bit more.

01:24:38.000 Yeah, everybody.

01:24:38.000 But no, I think just about it.

01:24:39.000 And they put him on the watch list.

01:24:40.000 They did, and they're pretty good.

01:24:43.000 Sure, and that's a failure of, and so was the latest gentleman, Mr. Nicholas Cruz, was known to the FBI.

01:24:52.000 You're not going to take away the Second Amendment because the FBI fails to incarcerate a handful of people, are you?

01:24:58.000 Does that sound like a way to govern our society?

01:25:00.000 No, it's a failure that you will not yield on that issue.

01:25:05.000 If people on the list couldn't get guns, these people wouldn't have the guns, or at the bare minimum, would have a way harder time getting guns.

01:25:11.000 Well, you'd have to, okay, sure.

01:25:13.000 Maybe if we had a very, well, here, here.

01:25:17.000 I'll concede slightly.

01:25:19.000 If we had an extremely sophisticated system with checks and balances, my problem with watch lists, people on watch lists not being able to obtain a firearm, is anybody can be put on a watch list.

01:25:32.000 Anybody could be put on a no fly zone or a watch list for a variety of reasons.

01:25:36.000 Terrible.

01:25:36.000 I thought you were one fear mongering about Muslims and all that.

01:25:39.000 They've made a list.

01:25:40.000 It's all fear mongering. 1.00

01:25:41.000 Anytime you want to defend your family, remember, you're fear mongering, goy. 1.00

01:25:45.000 You're also an Israelist point. 0.99

01:25:48.000 But again, the point being is, I would be in favor if you had the FBI or the CIA or whoever could properly demonstrate to a court that somebody is going to commit a mass casualty event.

01:26:04.000 In the case of Omar Mateen, I believe he had been in Saudi Arabia before, right?

01:26:09.000 And his father was a refugee from Afghanistan.

01:26:11.000 I mean, this guy, there was a case you could demonstrate to a court or something, a commission. 0.96

01:26:16.000 That here's somebody who is likely to commit an attack.

01:26:19.000 If they, for example, Nicholas Cruz, who said, I'm going to be a mass shooter.

01:26:22.000 If you type up something like that and the FBI or somebody could demonstrate to a court, this person needs to have their rights abridged temporarily, I would say that's a concession I could make.

01:26:33.000 But my problem with the current situation is that anybody could be put on a list for any number of reasons.

01:26:39.000 And then we're right back where we started with depriving people of their rights for arbitrary reasons, which I'm against.

01:26:44.000 But you have to balance the two.

01:26:46.000 I don't think, I mean, is there any concession?

01:26:48.000 That you would, I guess you're just against guns altogether.

01:26:51.000 You would want no guns, ideally.

01:26:53.000 I've made millions of concessions.

01:26:55.000 But you say that in the abstract, you say that you don't want guns.

01:26:59.000 No, I've established.

01:27:00.000 I've established, yeah, my opinions about guns, I think, you know, in the abstract is quite clear at this point.

01:27:06.000 In America, I grant that people need guns, given the circumstance.

01:27:10.000 Like Sam Harris, for example, he should have a gun.

01:27:13.000 He should have bodyguards that have guns.

01:27:15.000 South Africa, it's a situation, it's not good. 0.99

01:27:18.000 You, living in Chicago, I mean, I kind of understand why you'd want a gun.

01:27:22.000 There are certain situations, certain, you know, facts on the ground.

01:27:25.000 It's just, I'm talking about making change for the next generation.

01:27:28.000 You know, America is, look, this problem could be unsolvable. 0.51

01:27:32.000 So I grant, like, you guys have already won this.

01:27:34.000 The pro gun people, like you're in no danger of anybody taking your guns or, you know, exactly.

01:27:39.000 There's no way this is.

01:27:41.000 We are the champions.

01:27:44.000 Right.

01:27:44.000 So it's very interesting on two levels.

01:27:46.000 One is it's not really being debated.

01:27:49.000 There's no vote on this.

01:27:50.000 There's not even close to that because of the political climate.

01:27:54.000 And number, the second thing is it's interesting talking to a person where we disagree on the existence of a problem.

01:28:01.000 You know, so it's strange.

01:28:03.000 It's not a normal conversation.

01:28:07.000 I think it's a normal conversation.

01:28:09.000 Look at the push we've seen since Parkland.

01:28:12.000 Look at the push we've seen.

01:28:13.000 What push?

01:28:14.000 What has happened?

01:28:15.000 A push for gun control.

01:28:16.000 We had a mass demonstration on March 14th, the 24th.

01:28:23.000 Okay.

01:28:24.000 Where did that come from?

01:28:25.000 Well, in 2018, they're planning on voting out all the politicians that get money from the NRA.

01:28:31.000 Even though Michael Bloomberg is more money, vastly more money to candidates who are anti gun than the NRA gives to pro gun candidates.

01:28:39.000 They're going to have this massive push.

01:28:41.000 And then, what's the first thing that they're, if the Democrats control the House after they do impeachment, the first thing they're going to do after they try to impeach the glorious God Emperor of mankind from being the president, the second thing they're going to do is they're going to try and pass gun control.

01:28:54.000 So you say, well, it's really safe.

01:28:56.000 It's under siege. 0.97

01:28:58.000 Well, first of all, knowing the Democrats, even if they do take more power in the House and whatnot, it's going to be very difficult for them to, they don't even have the balls to even present an argument for gun control. 0.97

01:28:58.000 Okay. 0.97

01:29:10.000 We can't even get.

01:29:11.000 Anything.

01:29:12.000 And you know this.

01:29:13.000 I mean, that's why you're not.

01:29:13.000 I disagree.

01:29:15.000 I think I, well, you're arguing a hypothetical based on nothing.

01:29:19.000 Based off all of American history. 0.50

01:29:22.000 Well, I think this is pretty ahistorical, the push for gun control.

01:29:26.000 Well, we might close the gun show loophole, like something like that minor, and that would be as much as it goes. 0.88

01:29:33.000 I think we could see a lot.

01:29:35.000 They put up to a vote in the Florida Senate a ban on semi automatic weapons.

01:29:39.000 I wouldn't put it past them to put that to a vote in the House.

01:29:42.000 I'm in favor of it.

01:29:44.000 That's what they're campaigning on.

01:29:46.000 I want that.

01:29:47.000 So let me ask you when the shooting happened in Vegas and the guy was murdering all these people with these ridiculously high powered weapons and bump stock and all that.

01:29:56.000 What was your thought process?

01:29:58.000 What were you thinking? 1.00

01:29:58.000 You were thinking, shit, if only those people in the crowd had guns, if only the bellhop had a gun. 1.00

01:30:04.000 Tell me what goes through your mind when you see another event like that. 1.00

01:30:09.000 Sure.

01:30:10.000 I think first you have to establish that that was.

01:30:13.000 That was a pretty significant case.

01:30:15.000 I think Las Vegas is maybe your worst example because Las Vegas was something that was not right there.

01:30:21.000 Something nobody who's a boomer who has worked three federal government jobs, they're a millionaire, they're like 60 something.

01:30:28.000 Then they just decide what to go and injure 500 people and kill 50?

01:30:32.000 I don't think so.

01:30:33.000 But nevertheless, a cop engaged with that shooter before the shooting even began.

01:30:38.000 If you recall the details of that case, one of your favorites, the police, the person tapped with protecting you, he showed up and engaged with.

01:30:46.000 Stephen Paddock on the scene, and then he went back to get reinforcements, and that took a long time for it to happen.

01:30:51.000 But in a world where people had guns, I don't know, what if somebody in the next hotel room had a gun?

01:30:57.000 Somebody in the hotel room next to him had a gun.

01:31:00.000 Who knows what could have happened? 1.00

01:31:01.000 But I think that was a pretty exceptional case.

01:31:03.000 I'm a little bit confused.

01:31:05.000 Did you just suggest that he didn't shoot them?

01:31:07.000 It's a conspiracy?

01:31:09.000 No.

01:31:09.000 I think that was an exceptional case where I don't know that Stephen Paddock was who he said he was, if that makes sense.

01:31:17.000 Not really.

01:31:18.000 But you think that it's the cops who.

01:31:20.000 I don't know all the details of that case.

01:31:21.000 But go ahead.

01:31:22.000 Is he not Stephen Paddock?

01:31:24.000 No, not that he's not Stephen Paddock, but that something was awry.

01:31:27.000 With that shooting, in the sense that you look at any of the details, first they said they recovered no hard drive from his computer in the room.

01:31:35.000 He set up two cameras inside the hotel room, outside the hotel room.

01:31:39.000 Apparently, neither of them were filming during the shooting.

01:31:42.000 I mean, there were so many weird things going on.

01:31:44.000 We still haven't established a motive with him.

01:31:46.000 He worked three jobs for the federal government for the post office, he was an auditor for the defense contractors.

01:31:54.000 He was an IRS agent.

01:31:56.000 So, this was a very peculiar case.

01:31:58.000 Are you insinuating a false flag?

01:32:00.000 Absolutely, 100%.

01:32:02.000 Some kind of a cover up in the communist community.

01:32:05.000 Why just allude to that?

01:32:05.000 Well, because I don't know if it's a false flag.

01:32:07.000 I don't know what it was, but I think it wasn't what the media presented it as.

01:32:11.000 Do you think it was a strategy from gun control people to explain it?

01:32:15.000 I don't know.

01:32:16.000 I have no idea.

01:32:17.000 Tell me what was the motive.

01:32:18.000 They haven't established a motive.

01:32:20.000 How many months out has it been?

01:32:21.000 Tell me what was the motive then?

01:32:23.000 There's no way it's your.

01:32:25.000 Okay, there it is.

01:32:26.000 He left a note.

01:32:26.000 There it is.

01:32:27.000 He brought a computer.

01:32:28.000 He had cameras.

01:32:29.000 He wired 100 grand to the Philippines a week before it, but nobody.

01:32:33.000 He had friends.

01:32:33.000 He had a wife.

01:32:34.000 He had people who knew him.

01:32:37.000 But we can't get in his head.

01:32:38.000 Six months later, we know why YouTube Shooter did what she did.

01:32:41.000 Don't know what Stephen Paddock did months ago.

01:32:44.000 But hey, it's the same government that you have a real heart on for.

01:32:48.000 We just have to trust them.

01:32:49.000 We just have to trust everything's okay.

01:32:52.000 They're in charge.

01:32:53.000 I'm walking down this rabbit hole.

01:32:55.000 So he didn't have any motive.

01:32:57.000 So what is he, Lee Harvey Oswald?

01:32:58.000 He's just a patsy here?

01:33:00.000 Who said it?

01:33:01.000 There's another one.

01:33:02.000 There's another one where we don't really know what happened.

01:33:04.000 But.

01:33:05.000 No, I mean, Stephen Paddock, you look at any of the examples here, or rather, you look at every piece of evidence from this case, and it just doesn't sit right with me.

01:33:15.000 That's all.

01:33:17.000 Weird.

01:33:18.000 Interesting.

01:33:19.000 Well, I mean, can you explain to me why somebody who made millions off of a real estate investment company decides to go off and.

01:33:19.000 Yeah.

01:33:27.000 Yeah.

01:33:27.000 Very strange.

01:33:28.000 It's insane.

01:33:30.000 No criminal, just the worst mass shooting in U.S. history? 0.99

01:33:34.000 I think one thing we can agree on is that there's a bunch of insane people. 0.99

01:33:37.000 Sure. 0.98

01:33:37.000 In our country. 0.98

01:33:38.000 Guaranteed.

01:33:40.000 So, my goal is to limit their access to deadly machines built to kill humans.

01:33:45.000 Sure.

01:33:46.000 But you think that we should hand them out to everybody.

01:33:48.000 And you must acknowledge that if you make it super easy and you arm everybody, you will be arming crazy people.

01:33:53.000 You're arming crazy people regardless.

01:33:56.000 You're arming crazy people regardless.

01:33:58.000 Because people who have, that's charming, people who have mental health issues, they're not always screened.

01:34:04.000 You're not always going to have a mental health history.

01:34:07.000 So, short of making it so that Very few people can get guns.

01:34:11.000 You're going to be arming people who have mental issues, whether you screen for mental illness or you don't.

01:34:17.000 This is just the reality of the situation.

01:34:19.000 And what's mental illness?

01:34:21.000 I don't trust the government.

01:34:23.000 Am I mentally ill?

01:34:24.000 Am I prevented from buying a firearm?

01:34:25.000 I mean, who's to establish that?

01:34:27.000 How far do I go?

01:34:28.000 It's a separate point to try to figure out who's mentally ill and give them guns or not based on that.

01:34:33.000 I'm talking about just the fact, the stark fact that we know there are crazy people who will, they're just guaranteed to kill people tomorrow and the next day and into the foreseeable future.

01:34:43.000 But what I would like, I prefer, Sam Harris did a podcast on this, and I agreed with what he said, which is I want the ability to get a gun to be about as difficult as the ability to become a pilot.

01:34:54.000 Like, if we're going to have people with guns, I want it to be done responsibly.

01:35:00.000 I don't want to just hand out to just young dudes, you know, and just no background check or very limited, just make it super easy.

01:35:07.000 You know, the system they have in Germany is like this you have to wait a year, you have to be vetted and go through a whole series of things.

01:35:15.000 And it just seems to make more sense and it leads to less death, as we see when we look at the stats. 0.85

01:35:22.000 Yeah, it's, well, this is just kind of ridiculous. 0.97

01:35:24.000 This is just a silly, like, dumb argument because, well, the argument that, Well, I'll tell you. 0.98

01:35:29.000 I'll tell you why. 0.98

01:35:30.000 You don't like it so much when I do it. 0.96

01:35:32.000 But here's why it's ridiculous.

01:35:33.000 It's because, again, if you're looking at who's committing the crimes with firearms, almost all of them are not obtaining them legally.

01:35:41.000 And you can say, oh, well, so that means we don't try and stop anybody?

01:35:44.000 Well, kind of, yeah. 1.00

01:35:47.000 If we're going to limit the rights of everybody so that the 3% of people who commit crimes with legally obtained firearms, I think you're a dumb person.

01:35:55.000 90%, it's either 90%, depending on who you ask, it's 90 or 97% of Firearm related crimes are committed with firearms that were obtained illegally. 0.85

01:36:04.000 The people in the south side of Chicago, number one, they're not using AR 15s.

01:36:07.000 Okay, they're using handguns.

01:36:09.000 And they're using handguns that were obtained illegally.

01:36:11.000 In the case that you just mentioned, even Omar Mateen obtained his firearm through a straw man purchase, which is illegal.

01:36:18.000 So, you know.

01:36:19.000 It's still accessible, it's legal, illegal.

01:36:21.000 The guns are still there.

01:36:23.000 Guns are the problem.

01:36:23.000 We have 400 million guns here.

01:36:25.000 They're always going to be.

01:36:26.000 It's a difficult problem, which is why we should probably take action now instead of just freak out and.

01:36:31.000 Arm ourselves and just wait for the government to come and have a civil war.

01:36:35.000 I mean, this is not conducive to anything.

01:36:37.000 So, your argument is collapsing in the face of the real statistics and data when you understand.

01:36:43.000 It is.

01:36:44.000 It is.

01:36:44.000 When you understand.

01:36:46.000 One thing I just thought of as you keep referencing, criminals have guns, criminals have illegal, they'll buy that shit illegally. 1.00

01:36:53.000 And by the way, fuck you. 1.00

01:36:55.000 Crime, the criminals that exist today, okay, I'll grant you that. 1.00

01:36:59.000 The criminals that exist today, they have guns, they're not going to turn their guns over, they're not going to obey the law.

01:37:04.000 What about the future?

01:37:05.000 What about future criminals?

01:37:06.000 You know, when you have the good guys with a gun, you know when the good guy with a gun turns into a bad guy with a gun?

01:37:12.000 When he pulls the trigger at the wrong person or the person that he wants to kill.

01:37:16.000 So there are good guys with guns turning to bad guys with guns all the time.

01:37:20.000 What about future criminality? 0.96

01:37:23.000 So I recognize this situation today is fucked and it's going to be very difficult to put a dent in it, even though we have good intentions. 0.96

01:37:31.000 I'm talking about the next generation. 0.97

01:37:35.000 Yeah, well, I would say first, first of all, again, you have 400 million guns in the country.

01:37:39.000 We're going to wait for 400 million guns to expire.

01:37:42.000 Good luck.

01:37:43.000 No, make it less.

01:37:43.000 That's the first thing.

01:37:44.000 I want to make it less.

01:37:45.000 Okay, sure.

01:37:46.000 To engage with that, to engage with that.

01:37:48.000 Australia passes the 1996 National Firearms Agreement.

01:37:52.000 Do you know that today they have the same amount of firearms as they did before that law was passed?

01:37:58.000 And although per capita there's less guns, still the same amount of guns.

01:38:02.000 You still have the amount of guns in that country growing at three times the rate that the population grew.

01:38:08.000 And so.

01:38:09.000 So, you can, and you say Australia, so what?

01:38:11.000 You say that Australia, and everybody says, this is the experts, Australia has the most comprehensive gun control regime in the world.

01:38:19.000 And despite this, they went in, they did a buyback, they destroyed 650,000 guns, and it only took them, it took them 18 years for them to recover to the same position they were before, and very quickly, and it's happening very rapidly now.

01:38:32.000 So, the point is, you know, we could put in place gun control, and even if something like that were feasible, Within two, you're talking about the long term future 400 million guns expiring.

01:38:42.000 Within two decades, they brought back the same amount of guns.

01:38:46.000 I mean, it's just, there's just no.

01:38:48.000 That's the per capita fallacy.

01:38:49.000 There's more people and there's more gun purchases.

01:38:51.000 It doesn't have anything to do with anything.

01:38:53.000 And for starters, by the way, the suicide rate dropped in Australia when they banned the guns.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, if you are happy to swap America and Australia's gun policies, be my guest.

01:39:04.000 I would gladly take that on.

01:39:07.000 I love how we go from, well, we'll wait for the guns to pass their expiration date, and then we'll, but even though they come back anyway, and I acknowledge that per capita there was still less, but the rate of, you know, they're coming in like crazy.

01:39:21.000 They're coming in, you know, there's still, in gross terms, lots of firearms coming into the country.

01:39:27.000 But to go back to Australia, then you flip flop and you go, oh, well, now we'll talk about the suicide rate because that didn't work out so well.

01:39:33.000 The suicide rate had been declining.

01:39:35.000 The suicide rate in Australia had been declining for 10 years.

01:39:38.000 And actually, when the gun law was passed, the rate at which it had been declining actually decreased.

01:39:45.000 So, in terms of it's already going down for 10 years, gun laws passed, and then it's decreased by a lot less after that.

01:39:52.000 I mean, so there's no correlation there.

01:39:55.000 Right.

01:39:55.000 So, you think that suicide.

01:39:57.000 Would go up if you take away guns?

01:39:59.000 I'm telling you the facts.

01:40:00.000 I'm telling you.

01:40:01.000 The facts are that people use guns to kill themselves to the tune of 30,000 a year in America.

01:40:06.000 And if they didn't have the guns, they wouldn't do it.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, that's great.

01:40:09.000 But if you look at the evidence in Australia, the kind of gun regime you're proposing, there is no statistical, and I know this is difficult because you're trying to make all these, well, we just know.

01:40:18.000 It's just obvious.

01:40:20.000 But there is no statistical correlation in Australia with guns and with suicide.

01:40:26.000 There just isn't.

01:40:27.000 Because if guns were causing suicide, Then you would see that not only would suicide continue to go down, it would go down faster.

01:40:36.000 But in fact, it stopped going down.

01:40:38.000 Or rather, it didn't stop, but the rate at which it was decreasing already for 10 years slowed down.

01:40:44.000 So there's no correlation that you can demonstrate between firearms and suicide.

01:40:48.000 There just isn't.

01:40:49.000 I'll bring my little grain of salt, and I don't know that Nick will follow me on that.

01:40:52.000 But personally, suicide is not a problem for me as a libertarian.

01:40:57.000 These are people choosing to die, as far as I'm concerned.

01:41:02.000 What about people who are just super depressed and go, like, and they'll, like, swallow a bunch of pills but survive but be sick as opposed to them just picking up a gun and shooting themselves in the head and then it's just done?

01:41:02.000 There you go.

01:41:15.000 I just think that's kind of silly.

01:41:16.000 Are we going to ban cars, you know, because people are going to go in the car and let them?

01:41:21.000 Yeah.

01:41:21.000 Fair enough.

01:41:22.000 You can kill yourself quickly in other ways, but guns, you know, are pretty simple.

01:41:27.000 Hey, Nick, I'm seeing here a stat says after the buyback, Suicides by gum dropped 74% from 1990 to 1995?

01:41:36.000 Yeah, again, tell me the rate at which they were decreasing before, because I have it from the Crime Prevention Research Center, which has a rate at which they were going down.

01:41:46.000 Are you aware that people use guns to kill themselves?

01:41:48.000 Of course.

01:41:49.000 So, would it make sense that if they had less guns, there'd be less people killing themselves with guns?

01:41:53.000 I don't think the guns caused the suicide.

01:41:56.000 I've illustrated before.

01:41:57.000 I don't think the guns cause.

01:42:00.000 I have a statement.

01:42:01.000 Nick, they literally do cause the suicides.

01:42:04.000 You know that.

01:42:05.000 They actually, I think the people that pull the trigger cause the suicide.

01:42:09.000 But again, should we then.

01:42:12.000 What's the next most expedient way to kill yourself?

01:42:15.000 Should we eliminate that? 0.99

01:42:16.000 Pills.

01:42:17.000 No, but we want to talk about pills and suicide and just totally detach ourselves from guns?

01:42:21.000 Well, but the point being.

01:42:22.000 We're off into another topic.

01:42:23.000 We're that uncomfortable with.

01:42:25.000 No, I know you're in trouble here, but if the principle is.

01:42:29.000 Projection.

01:42:30.000 If the principle is, guns are an expedient to suicide.

01:42:34.000 People kill themselves in all kinds of ways, but guns are an expedient to do it, that you're able to do it quickly.

01:42:39.000 If that's the standard, should we eliminate all things that allow you to kill yourself quickly?

01:42:45.000 I mean, where do we, I mean, really, because if that's, that is not a proper standard for me. 0.81

01:42:50.000 Well, that's really demented.

01:42:52.000 It's kind of embarrassing that you would say that.

01:42:54.000 No, we can't ban pills.

01:42:55.000 It's going to be very hard to.

01:42:57.000 I'm in the process of it that you're interrupting.

01:42:59.000 You can't ban pills or knives or things like that.

01:43:02.000 Yeah, people jump off a bridge.

01:43:03.000 Why can't you do that?

01:43:04.000 Why can't you do that?

01:43:06.000 Because it's very difficult.

01:43:07.000 It's a very hard thing to even contemplate doing.

01:43:10.000 Ah, but here's one thing guns, which people use the most to kill themselves, if you lessen them, you lessen suicide rates.

01:43:17.000 So that has been established.

01:43:19.000 I don't understand how you could.

01:43:20.000 Deny that.

01:43:21.000 I mean, you could say, look, suicide is not my issue of concern.

01:43:25.000 I'm more concerned with my own self defense and sorry for them.

01:43:27.000 But yeah, I'm willing to, for me to own guns, some people are going to kill themselves more with guns.

01:43:33.000 That's, I'm willing to take that trade off.

01:43:34.000 That should be a more reasonable thing.

01:43:37.000 Which is true.

01:43:37.000 I don't see how, you know, and we can talk about the statistics all day long and the facts are against you.

01:43:43.000 However, you know, I don't see how somebody killing, you know, my next door neighbor kills himself with a gun.

01:43:48.000 I don't see how that means I can't have my gun to defend myself.

01:43:50.000 Let me ask you, let me ask you some questions.

01:43:50.000 Okay.

01:43:52.000 Right to own a firearm and protect myself.

01:43:54.000 I have a question for you.

01:43:54.000 I just don't.

01:43:56.000 And here it is Would you be willing to give up your guns?

01:43:59.000 It's a hypothetical, or what JF calls an hypothetical.

01:44:02.000 Would you be willing to give up your guns if I were to tell you that 10 people would not kill themselves with a gun?

01:44:10.000 See, that's different because then my decision would be rather these people dying is dependent on me having a firearm and not having a gun.

01:44:18.000 And this is what I'm suggesting to you.

01:44:19.000 Which is not the relationship between others.

01:44:21.000 Nick, I'm suggesting to you that our policy on guns is enabling and allowing.

01:44:26.000 All of this death to occur.

01:44:28.000 So I'm asking you, morally speaking, would you be willing to give up your guns if you know it would save the life of 10 people who would have killed themselves if they had had easy access to a gun the same way you do?

01:44:37.000 So you're saying that if I give up my firearm, or rather if I don't give up my firearms, you press a red button and people are killed?

01:44:46.000 No, but we're talking about suicide.

01:44:48.000 We're talking about suicide.

01:44:49.000 So what you're doing, in effect, is you're asking a question that you will not answer because you're afraid of it.

01:44:54.000 What you're doing is obfuscating.

01:44:56.000 I say very clearly that there is no causal relationship between me having guns and someone killing themselves with guns.

01:45:02.000 And so you have to say, what if those 10 people were in front of you and you owning a firearm would mean that they kill themselves?

01:45:08.000 But there's no causal relationship between me having a gun.

01:45:11.000 And the answer would be yes.

01:45:13.000 I have a right to have firearms.

01:45:13.000 I want my firearms.

01:45:15.000 There you go.

01:45:17.000 So you're willing to take more risk.

01:45:20.000 And I have a right.

01:45:21.000 A little more risk.

01:45:22.000 Well, should we also get rid of free speech because of dangerous things?

01:45:28.000 Why are we talking about the ridicule of this hypothetical AIU?

01:45:34.000 I mean, you're essentially telling me that these people would be in front of me and they would be threatening their own life and they would say, JF, if you don't give up your liberty, we're going to kill ourselves. 0.99

01:45:43.000 My answer is, kill yourselves. 0.99

01:45:46.000 I like that. 1.00

01:45:47.000 Okay, so you're very cruel and unusual and you have a very interesting stance on suicide, apparently.

01:45:52.000 Yeah, it's cruel.

01:45:53.000 It doesn't have to be suicide, it could be homicide.

01:45:53.000 You can change it.

01:45:56.000 No, because they're trying to extort a liberty out of me, they're trying to threaten.

01:46:00.000 Violence.

01:46:01.000 They're threatening a crime.

01:46:02.000 Well, suicide is a crime in our societies.

01:46:05.000 They're blackmailing me with emotions. 1.00

01:46:08.000 And I'm going to do this as always go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:46:12.000 I like it. 1.00

01:46:13.000 Strong.

01:46:15.000 I mean, it reminds me of The Beautiful Mind.

01:46:17.000 Wasn't that guy, he had some sort of a theory where if we work together, all of us benefit more than if we just act out of self interest?

01:46:24.000 Isn't that the gist of it? 0.93

01:46:25.000 It sounds pretty gay to me. 0.65

01:46:28.000 It is a misrepresentation of the beautiful theory of game theory by John Nash. 0.95

01:46:34.000 So, which I'm a big fan of.

01:46:34.000 Great.

01:46:37.000 The general point remains, which is that do you have any consideration for the we?

01:46:43.000 I get that you care about you.

01:46:45.000 I understand you're scared.

01:46:46.000 Do you care anything about we?

01:46:48.000 It's me.

01:46:49.000 I'm scared.

01:46:51.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:46:53.000 Here's the thing, big guy.

01:46:54.000 It's not just about my selfishness or anything like that.

01:46:58.000 It's about rights.

01:46:59.000 It's about the individual has a right.

01:47:02.000 And actually, in effect, that shores up what is the we but a collection of individuals?

01:47:07.000 You have it that the we is something over and above the individual, it's all the way over here.

01:47:11.000 When we is all the individuals, and you want to compromise the rights of everybody so that a few people who decide to kill people.

01:47:20.000 You know, maybe 10% of them won't kill people.

01:47:23.000 You live in a country where the we is constantly being considered.

01:47:27.000 I mean, you give the government the power to form a military.

01:47:30.000 Are you against the U.S. military?

01:47:32.000 No, of course not.

01:47:33.000 I love the military.

01:47:34.000 Who are they protecting?

01:47:36.000 Brave and strong.

01:47:37.000 They're protecting, well, yeah, ultimately, they're protecting individual members of the nation.

01:47:42.000 Yeah.

01:47:43.000 But we, it's not the Canadian military, it's the U.S. military, specifically us, this one group, and we have given them the power to do this because we think it's the detention of us.

01:47:52.000 Is tasked with defending.

01:47:54.000 But who is us?

01:47:55.000 I don't know.

01:47:55.000 Who is us?

01:47:56.000 Do we become more than the sum of our parts when we're grouped within a geographical border?

01:48:01.000 It's just amazing to me.

01:48:02.000 Do you have any consideration for your neighbors, the people that you live with?

01:48:05.000 Of course.

01:48:06.000 Love my neighbors.

01:48:07.000 Great people.

01:48:08.000 But I think they should have a right to defend themselves.

01:48:10.000 I think I should.

01:48:11.000 I'm not saying they can't have a right to defend themselves.

01:48:14.000 I'm saying we all have God given rights.

01:48:16.000 I don't want to infringe on the rights of us or you or me or up or down or left or right.

01:48:22.000 We all have rights.

01:48:24.000 The individual has rights.

01:48:26.000 And that's the society that we live in.

01:48:27.000 That's the culture we live in.

01:48:28.000 And look, by the way, people are free to go away.

01:48:31.000 That's our culture that we have here.

01:48:33.000 It works here because that's how it's always worked.

01:48:37.000 We have an individualist, a liberal, an English Protestant culture. 0.60

01:48:41.000 We've had a gun culture because we were a frontier country.

01:48:43.000 We were at war with the Native Americans from the 17th century into the 1890s. 0.96

01:48:47.000 If you don't like it, leave. 1.00

01:48:50.000 All the eggheaded technocrats can go live in Australia or Germany and they can go get raped by Muslim rape games and have a blast. 1.00

01:49:00.000 We're here in America. 1.00

01:49:01.000 People still want to come, unsurprisingly.

01:49:04.000 But that's our social contract.

01:49:06.000 It's in our Constitution that we have a Second Amendment.

01:49:08.000 You talk about the we.

01:49:10.000 We came together in 1789 and ratified the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which has in it the Second Amendment.

01:49:16.000 So there you have it right there. 1.00

01:49:18.000 That's retarded. 1.00

01:49:19.000 God, you go from homophobia to xenophobia to. 1.00

01:49:22.000 It's like. 1.00

01:49:23.000 You voted for Hillary Clinton, you bitch. 1.00

01:49:28.000 Homophobia. 1.00

01:49:28.000 So what? 1.00

01:49:30.000 Homophobia.

01:49:32.000 Are you going to call me an anti Semitic? 0.97

01:49:34.000 Wait, are you Jewish?

01:49:35.000 I asked Halsey this.

01:49:36.000 Are you Jewish?

01:49:37.000 Are you Jewish? 0.99

01:49:38.000 Wow. 1.00

01:49:39.000 Oh, I'm on worse than life.

01:49:40.000 I need to answer that question.

01:49:42.000 Because there's lots of people on the chat who are asking if ARU is Jewish. 1.00

01:49:46.000 ARU is a special case. 1.00

01:49:48.000 He is the most Jew, non Jew in the world. 1.00

01:49:53.000 The most Semitic. 1.00

01:49:55.000 Oh my God. 0.99

01:49:56.000 Now I sit in a den of anti Jewish people.

01:49:58.000 I'm not.

01:49:59.000 Huh?

01:49:59.000 I'm not.

01:49:59.000 No, no.

01:50:00.000 I'm not asking that question.

01:50:02.000 We're not anti Jewish.

01:50:03.000 We love.

01:50:04.000 We love everybody.

01:50:05.000 But there's something fascinating that just happened we have a Hillary Clinton voter trying to convince two ethno nationalists of the importance of the we and the us.

01:50:16.000 It's quite fascinating.

01:50:17.000 We have a few super chats.

01:50:19.000 Jimmy Ross, $20 US, he says, Would you give up your rights if 10 people won't kill themselves?

01:50:25.000 Blunderbuss, $20 Canadian, says, Should race be part of your ideal vetting process concerning gun purchases or ownership, AIU?

01:50:35.000 Or is a colorblind policy best?

01:50:37.000 That's a question I wanted to ask you, AIU.

01:50:41.000 I would lean to say no because my gun policy is across the board.

01:50:41.000 That's interesting.

01:50:47.000 It applies to everyone. 0.72

01:50:48.000 So the vetting is not going to be like, well, this guy seems to be responsible and he's done all the training, but he's black, so let's not give him a gun. 0.95

01:50:55.000 That's not good.

01:50:57.000 But you didn't target the 18 years old to 25 years old on grounds of statistics.

01:51:02.000 You could also target black people on the same reflection. 0.99

01:51:07.000 Well, no, but you're filtering through those guys are gangsters, those guys are criminals. 0.97

01:51:10.000 If the person is established to not be a criminal, it doesn't matter what race he is.

01:51:13.000 Bang, nailed it. 0.81

01:51:14.000 Mic drop, give me some.

01:51:16.000 Also, I would ask JF, you've in the past few months have jumped between a nationalist and an ethno nationalist.

01:51:25.000 What?

01:51:26.000 Because you've said sometimes, no, I want liberty, no matter what race, as long as we are the same.

01:51:33.000 And then, like, sometimes you'll be like, no, I'm an ethno nationalist.

01:51:37.000 But it seems like you jump between that.

01:51:39.000 Oh, no, no, you're just mistaking two of my positions.

01:51:42.000 I'm always an ethno nationalist.

01:51:44.000 I just say that in my ethno nationalist state, my ideal state, there wouldn't be violations of rights for minorities. 0.68

01:51:52.000 That's very different from saying I want the most minorities possible.

01:51:56.000 I still want a country made up of white people with a certain culture, but if there are other people due to facts of history that unfold that way, I wouldn't violate their rights.

01:52:06.000 Hey, JF, do you get death threats from people who are against your white ethnostate?

01:52:12.000 Every day. 0.58

01:52:13.000 Oh, by the way, I'll hold on.

01:52:14.000 Do you own a gun?

01:52:16.000 Do I own a gun?

01:52:18.000 No, because I moved to Canada.

01:52:20.000 I used to own a few guns.

01:52:22.000 I had N guns and an AR 15.

01:52:25.000 I had to get rid of them.

01:52:27.000 I still might re equip myself, but in Canada, it's going to be these long shotguns with three cartridges.

01:52:34.000 It's not very fun to shoot.

01:52:35.000 It's like you have to put the bullet, take your time, click it in.

01:52:39.000 It's like mechanisms.

01:52:42.000 I'll throw out a quick question about accidental gun death.

01:52:45.000 Your stance on that?

01:52:45.000 Just say la vie.

01:52:46.000 It's part of the cost of liberty.

01:52:48.000 Team America.

01:52:50.000 Personally, well, accidental with any accident with any material is the cost of the liberty of using that material, just like car accident, just like plane accident.

01:53:00.000 I'm fine with it.

01:53:01.000 I wouldn't want to stop it.

01:53:02.000 I would want people to have the liberty not to engage with guns if they are afraid of that possibility for accident.

01:53:09.000 But those who choose, they choose to live with the risk.

01:53:12.000 People own the consequences of their own actions.

01:53:15.000 I just want to thank Hollow Words through 50 pounds.

01:53:18.000 Jesus, thank you so much.

01:53:20.000 I wasn't convinced by his previous debates, but I really admire Nick for not budging an inch.

01:53:25.000 It's a butchered quote, but those who sacrifice liberty for safety will receive both.

01:53:30.000 Also, funny, this guy keeps talking about fear.

01:53:33.000 And then he threw another 50 pounds.

01:53:35.000 Hollow words.

01:53:36.000 Jesus, thanks, man.

01:53:37.000 Speaking of butchered quote, I meant neither, obviously. 0.85

01:53:40.000 Lastly, I'd like to make it clear to AIU that his outlook that demographics don't matter because they will get guns logically can only lead to disarming blacks and Hispanics.

01:53:52.000 Not general gun control. 0.87

01:53:54.000 True.

01:53:55.000 What do you mean? 0.99

01:53:59.000 He's saying if you want to fix the gun deaths to disarm blacks and Hispanics, not gun control, because the demographic who are killing the most people would be blacks and Hispanics. 0.99

01:54:13.000 I think that's what he meant. 0.98

01:54:15.000 I'm not in favor of anybody having a gun.

01:54:19.000 Yeah, I'm just.

01:54:21.000 And then Vinny Eggs threw $50 and said, so whites and. 0.78

01:54:26.000 An SA, what's that? 0.79

01:54:29.000 SA? 0.65

01:54:32.000 Can use guns?

01:54:34.000 South Africa.

01:54:35.000 South Africa. 0.76

01:54:37.000 So, whites in South Africa can use guns, but whites in the U.S. can't, even if the demographics of the U.S. are going in that direction.

01:54:45.000 And the reason behind all the conflict in South Africa is demographics itself.

01:54:52.000 It doesn't matter how much AIUs say nothing can be done about it.

01:54:57.000 These are.

01:54:57.000 Wait a minute.

01:54:58.000 We're 63% in America.

01:55:00.000 We're not 10%.

01:55:01.000 And South Africa is not America.

01:55:02.000 There's major differences that would be relevant there.

01:55:05.000 I have a question I'd like to ask Nick.

01:55:09.000 I did a poll on my.

01:55:11.000 People and the question was, owning a gun greatly increases your chances of dying by a gun.

01:55:15.000 Does this fact trouble you?

01:55:16.000 And I just want to get your take.

01:55:17.000 What do you think, my viewers, who are mostly, or actually, these are my gun viewers?

01:55:21.000 I don't know.

01:55:22.000 I don't know what you're gun viewing.

01:55:23.000 Well, I'm just, what is your instinct?

01:55:25.000 What percentage do you think?

01:55:26.000 Yes, I am greatly, yep.

01:55:31.000 I don't know.

01:55:32.000 You tell me.

01:55:33.000 Well, are you greatly concerned?

01:55:36.000 Are you troubled by the fact that owning a gun increases you?

01:55:36.000 Are you concerned?

01:55:38.000 Not even a little.

01:55:39.000 Zero.

01:55:40.000 Not at all.

01:55:40.000 None.

01:55:41.000 Zip.

01:55:41.000 Zero.

01:55:42.000 Do you accept it as a fact that owning a gun?

01:55:44.000 Increases your chances of dying by a gun. 1.00

01:55:46.000 Yeah, I'm not a pussy, dude. 1.00

01:55:49.000 I'm not a bitch. 1.00

01:55:51.000 I own knives, too.

01:55:53.000 Okay, so that is a fact, but it doesn't alarm you at all.

01:55:56.000 You're not worried about it.

01:55:57.000 It's not going to happen.

01:55:58.000 Not at all.

01:55:58.000 I told you no.

01:55:59.000 Answer is no.

01:56:00.000 How many of your people said that?

01:56:02.000 How many of your people said they were?

01:56:04.000 The ones that agreed with you were 56%.

01:56:06.000 Epic.

01:56:08.000 Your audience is 26%.

01:56:10.000 Chad.

01:56:11.000 And then 26% said, yes, I am a little bit worried that it's increasing my chances of dying by a gun.

01:56:16.000 And then 16% said, I don't even think it's a fact.

01:56:18.000 So they're just in La La Land.

01:56:20.000 Epic based audience, huh?

01:56:23.000 They're woke up on the gun question.

01:56:26.000 Well, look, if there's a gun in the house and it's stored away properly in a safe, how's that gun going to harm me?

01:56:36.000 I don't drink or anything.

01:56:37.000 I'm never going to be in an altered state.

01:56:38.000 How's the gun going to.

01:56:40.000 Because the guy coming to rob you, you're going to be in an escalated conflict with him and it's going to end in a fatality andor gun accident andor suicide.

01:56:49.000 That's a good point to address.

01:56:50.000 I will say on the issue of escalation, the gun does provide, in certain circumstances, a false sense of security.

01:57:00.000 That I will give you, where odds are you don't want to engage with a, you know, if there's a home invasion, the best thing that you can do is wait and hope that the person leaves.

01:57:11.000 Because if you do engage, then there is, like you said, there's a risk that you could get injured.

01:57:15.000 But the point being is that we should have a right to defend ourselves if it does go south, if it does get ugly.

01:57:20.000 So I'm not saying that.

01:57:21.000 Everywhere should be the okay corral.

01:57:23.000 Everybody should be.

01:57:24.000 But I am saying that I should have a right to defend myself.

01:57:27.000 But see, what you just described in that home invasion plays out all across society.

01:57:31.000 So when a cop pulls a guy over in a car, an American cop, he's got to be concerned that this dude has a gun.

01:57:37.000 And I've seen countless times where you'll have a guy resist arrest and he goes for the cop's gun or something.

01:57:43.000 Well, now it's just a fight to the death.

01:57:46.000 Whereas in other countries, say England, if they don't have a gun, the cops don't have a gun, or where the populace doesn't have guns, it very rarely becomes a lethal encounter.

01:57:56.000 Yeah, but that is how it is in this country, unfortunately.

01:58:00.000 For you, it's unfortunate.

01:58:01.000 For me, it's unfortunate.

01:58:03.000 I think it's good.

01:58:05.000 Because, again, you seem to have it that guns have negative outcomes sometimes, and therefore nobody should have guns.

01:58:12.000 I think that you can have things, JF said it best airplanes have negative outcomes, cars, all kinds of things.

01:58:21.000 More people are killed in a year by hammers than they are by AR 15s.

01:58:25.000 Things can have negative consequences without us.

01:58:27.000 It's a problem.

01:58:28.000 It must be banned.

01:58:30.000 I just simply disagree with that logic.

01:58:33.000 Wow.

01:58:33.000 What a conflation of planes, trains, and automobiles and hammers and guns.

01:58:37.000 I don't know how that's a conflation.

01:58:38.000 I mean, that's the standard you're setting.

01:58:40.000 Things happen.

01:58:41.000 Guns are very uniquely different.

01:58:42.000 They're machines built to take human life, and they do it very effectively.

01:58:45.000 I mean, you're improperly using that if you're using it offensively to coerce in the same way that, you know, many things are built that way.

01:58:45.000 Yeah.

01:58:53.000 You know, I mean, certain knives are built to take human lives.

01:58:57.000 Are we going to ban all assault knives?

01:58:59.000 There are combat knives.

01:59:00.000 They're not built to take human lives.

01:59:03.000 We should ban some knives.

01:59:04.000 Yes.

01:59:04.000 I think we should ban some knives.

01:59:05.000 I'm trying to get both ways, AIU, because on the one end, all of your arguments, Relies on the effect, the final effect, and not the intention so much.

01:59:14.000 The fact that people have accidents and they kill themselves, for example, is an effect argument.

01:59:20.000 It is not an intention argument.

01:59:22.000 But then you make a bunch of arguments.

01:59:24.000 Separate guns from cars.

01:59:26.000 Whereas if you're arguing by reducing the number of deaths, you should be as alarmed about cars as you are about guns.

01:59:34.000 That's a separate conversation entirely.

01:59:36.000 I mean, do you want to talk about hammer death in this country?

01:59:39.000 I mean, do you think that's a problem?

01:59:40.000 I think it would make a great show.

01:59:42.000 We would get lots of super chats on the arm of the book.

01:59:48.000 I just think you're inserting separate problems.

01:59:51.000 We're talking about problem A. Here comes problem B, C, and D. We're talking about standards.

01:59:54.000 We're talking about standards for how we make this.

01:59:57.000 If it meets your standard that something ought to be banned because it has nothing to do with cars in themselves or guns in themselves, it's got to do with you think that something is causing bad things.

02:00:10.000 People are being killed as a result of the misuse of a commodity, which is guns.

02:00:15.000 Well, but you don't, or whatever, you know, whatever it is, whatever you want to classify a gun as an object, but you don't want to ban an instrument.

02:00:23.000 You don't want an instrument of death.

02:00:25.000 Oh, it's a gun. 0.99

02:00:27.000 I want to see you fire. 0.71

02:00:28.000 Have you ever fired a gun? 0.99

02:00:30.000 Paintball.

02:00:31.000 I'd like to see it.

02:00:32.000 It'd probably be like that clip of that newsman who fired an AR 15.

02:00:35.000 He was like, I felt scared.

02:00:37.000 I felt bad.

02:00:39.000 I mean, the thing is, if you want to experiment all guns in America with knives, be my guest.

02:00:44.000 I'd prefer that.

02:00:45.000 Me too.

02:00:47.000 This whole running to the knife thing is such a dead end.

02:00:49.000 It's such an embarrassing attempt.

02:00:53.000 Did you just pull out his knife?

02:00:54.000 I did not watch it.

02:00:55.000 People would be remorseful if they made it just knife fights.

02:00:59.000 What?

02:01:00.000 You're bringing it on Nick's ground.

02:01:02.000 At the end of the day, you'd be on my home turf.

02:01:05.000 I'd like to launch a question to AIU, and not so much as an argument in this debate, but just to change a little bit perspective.

02:01:13.000 I don't think it's a punch out argument, but I think it's something to consider, and I'd like to hear you on that.

02:01:19.000 Do you.

02:01:20.000 Believe that many, or at least that some gun deaths are good.

02:01:26.000 That essentially getting rid of people who are criminals who invade your home or people who find themselves in a situation where they violate your rights.

02:01:34.000 Do you think that guns also have a positive aspect to bring to society?

02:01:40.000 In the hands of a cop, yeah, I'm in favor of that.

02:01:42.000 In the current situation, you can present a situation where a guy uses a gun in a positive way.

02:01:47.000 You know, you have a mass shooter or whatnot.

02:01:51.000 The benefit of that is overwhelmingly exceeded by the downside of it, which is we have this mass death happening all around us.

02:01:59.000 So, I don't want to have an arms race in this country.

02:02:03.000 I want to de escalate.

02:02:04.000 I want to take arms away. 0.99

02:02:07.000 This is what we do with nukes and countries. 0.99

02:02:09.000 It's the same ideas. 0.52

02:02:10.000 We don't want more death, we want less, and this is the best way to get there.

02:02:16.000 I guess that's where we differ.

02:02:17.000 Personally, I'm fine with an arms race.

02:02:20.000 I think that a lot of our nature is an arms race.

02:02:23.000 AJ, you want guns in Canada?

02:02:26.000 Absolutely.

02:02:27.000 I know it won't happen, but I would want.

02:02:29.000 See, I understand the America argument because of how many guns are there, who has guns, and you want to protect yourself.

02:02:39.000 But to introduce guns to Canada, I know.

02:02:44.000 I'm too. 0.82

02:02:45.000 You know what I want, Andy?

02:02:46.000 I want Justin Trudeau to be shaking in his pants every time he passes a law that violates my right. 0.99

02:02:52.000 That maybe a bunch of crazy lumberjack Canadians are going to take shotguns and shoot in his direction. 0.99

02:03:00.000 Jesus. 1.00

02:03:03.000 Yeah, fuck Trudeau. 1.00

02:03:07.000 So, JF, you've lived in Canada and America. 1.00

02:03:09.000 You don't feel safer walking around Canada?

02:03:11.000 People don't lock their doors in Canada.

02:03:15.000 I do feel safer in Canada.

02:03:18.000 Probably not in Montreal.

02:03:20.000 Is that not a commendable thing that we should recognize?

02:03:23.000 That it's better to.

02:03:24.000 It's safer in Canada than America?

02:03:26.000 But it depends on how we define safer.

02:03:28.000 I don't feel safer in my home, for example, because I don't have access to a gun.

02:03:33.000 And so it could be an illusion of safety because, yes, if I go on the street, I know that I will not get shot.

02:03:40.000 But I don't know that I can defend myself from someone invading my home.

02:03:43.000 Whereas in America, I know that I can.

02:03:46.000 But the chances that a guy invading your home has a gun are far less in Canada.

02:03:51.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:03:52.000 So all of the threats are less. 0.95

02:03:53.000 But I would want to shoot a guy with no gun who just steps over my door without my permission.

02:04:02.000 Oh, you don't have any weapons or anything else? 0.98

02:04:03.000 Like any knives laying around?

02:04:06.000 And he likes, I have knives, but they're not like they're like butter knives and steak knives.

02:04:11.000 I mean, see, I have certain things strategically placed in my house just in case, okay? 0.99

02:04:16.000 Because I'm a paranoid motherfucker. 0.98

02:04:19.000 Okay, God bless you, Andy. 0.99

02:04:21.000 You gotta have it.

02:04:22.000 Hey, how to have it breaks in through this window, and I have to run into the kitchen. 0.97

02:04:27.000 No, I have a baseball bat, an aluminum baseball bat, right beside my desk, prepared to pop anyone's head, or an animal, a raccoon crawls inside or some shit. 1.00

02:04:37.000 That thing's being fucking murdered. 1.00

02:04:41.000 I will murder someone who walks into my house, not with a gun, but with knives and baseball bats. 1.00

02:04:48.000 Let me try one more angle with this. 0.99

02:04:51.000 And that is, I think Nick recognizes that there are some people that should not own guns, right?

02:04:58.000 Yeah, I think there are people that ought not to own firearms, sure. 0.99

02:05:01.000 At least in retrospect, we could say, well, that guy, Jesus, he's crazy. 0.97

02:05:05.000 He shouldn't have had a gun. 0.95

02:05:05.000 Well, hindsight is 20 20, right? 0.95

02:05:07.000 Okay.

02:05:08.000 So, is there anything we can do to keep guns out of the hands of people that should not have them?

02:05:14.000 We already have.

02:05:15.000 And well, here's the problem.

02:05:17.000 You know, you can put in place mental health screening, which I would be for.

02:05:21.000 You can put in place a background check, which I am for.

02:05:23.000 You could do a safety course.

02:05:25.000 You could improve the laws so that people are held accountable.

02:05:28.000 For example, if your firearm goes missing, you're held accountable and is used in a crime or something.

02:05:34.000 If your firearm goes off on an accident and kills somebody in your house, I think you should be held accountable.

02:05:40.000 There are things you can do.

02:05:42.000 But if you look at the background, what's that?

02:05:44.000 People convicted of violent crimes, should they be able to own guns when they get out?

02:05:50.000 Probably, I don't know.

02:05:51.000 That's a tough one.

02:05:53.000 Because, yeah, maybe not.

02:05:54.000 Probably not.

02:05:55.000 Not blanket like that.

02:05:56.000 You could have a background check, but I don't know if people should be blanket.

02:05:59.000 Anybody who's been convicted of a violent crime.

02:06:02.000 One of the chief problems with background checks is that states don't submit their criminal records to the background check system.

02:06:09.000 This is something the NRA talks about a lot, which is the background check system would be very robust if not for the fact that state governments don't send all of their criminal records.

02:06:19.000 And put it in that database.

02:06:21.000 That's one of the big problems they have.

02:06:22.000 So, if the system were, and even with Nicholas Cruz, a lot of times you see the system is not poorly executed.

02:06:30.000 The laws on the books are not executed properly.

02:06:33.000 Nicholas Cruz shouldn't have been able to be walking the streets.

02:06:36.000 The police were called on his house 36 times.

02:06:38.000 The FBI got two tips.

02:06:40.000 But in the cases where the police don't execute the laws, what can you do?

02:06:44.000 You can pass all the laws you want.

02:06:45.000 If people don't execute them, you know, there's only so much you can do.

02:06:49.000 Huh.

02:06:51.000 Okay.

02:06:52.000 Yeah.

02:06:52.000 Well, It's very frustrating.

02:06:54.000 You know, it's this is as I expected it.

02:06:57.000 I mean, I have no idea that I would be able to convince someone.

02:07:02.000 I mean, this is the same.

02:07:04.000 I mean, you picked a guy who's super into guns.

02:07:06.000 I mean, he, I mean, Nick, if nobody in the country, if nobody had a gun in the country, would you still want a gun?

02:07:13.000 Of course.

02:07:14.000 Of course I would.

02:07:16.000 Well, hey, think of all, hey, hypothetically, let's say, everyone.

02:07:20.000 Let's say, no, yeah, right?

02:07:22.000 It's going to be a great time.

02:07:23.000 No, I joke.

02:07:24.000 I have no, no.

02:07:26.000 If I were in a country where nobody has a gun, you know, there's still people can still initiate violence against somebody if they even if they don't have a gun.

02:07:37.000 I don't think, and even if I'm okay, fine.

02:07:40.000 Yes, life is not going to be perfect, but that violence is better than gun violence. 0.97

02:07:45.000 So, what if like 10 people who are all like jacked animals they all come after me and I'm like, oh, I put them up, nigga. 0.98

02:07:55.000 I'm just getting kicked and punched. 0.98

02:08:00.000 Good thing nobody has a gun in this situation. 0.74

02:08:03.000 I'm curious to know.

02:08:04.000 Let's talk about airplane or airport security.

02:08:07.000 I'm curious to know.

02:08:08.000 Are you in favor that they have metal detectors and they check everybody when they come in and it's a no gun area?

02:08:15.000 I think the TSA and that whole system is like a very high price to pay for the fact that we're not allowed to be racist in the sense that I see them pulling aside like grandma, you know, 90 year old white woman.

02:08:27.000 They're like patting her down.

02:08:28.000 It's like.

02:08:29.000 Come on, guys.

02:08:30.000 She's probably not going to be the one.

02:08:31.000 But yeah, I'm in favor of metal detectors.

02:08:33.000 And you're in favor of no guns in airports, no guns on planes?

02:08:38.000 Yeah, no guns on airplanes, sure.

02:08:41.000 Okay, good.

02:08:41.000 I mean, I'm trying to figure out how far back I've got to go before.

02:08:44.000 But then, you know, we should have an air marshal on the plane with a gun because the TSA, and there's another example where the TSA was not able, if you look at any of the tests that they do, they run all kinds of, you know, training exercises and tests.

02:08:58.000 They find that the TSA is actually very ineffective at finding weapons or explosives.

02:09:03.000 Maybe it doesn't hurt to have somebody with a gun.

02:09:03.000 I don't know.

02:09:05.000 The problem is, you differentiate.

02:09:07.000 You're not against guns.

02:09:08.000 You just think only the state should have guns.

02:09:10.000 I think you should make that clear.

02:09:11.000 You're fine that as long as somebody steps over this line and we call them the state, they can have the military, scary instruments of death.

02:09:20.000 But everybody else, well, you're on your own kind of thing.

02:09:24.000 Yes.

02:09:25.000 Except unless there's a massive amount of regulation and vetting and it's as hard to get a gun as it is to become a pilot, then I'm willing to, okay, yeah, those guys, sure.

02:09:36.000 Yeah, I just don't think that's the situation on the ground.

02:09:38.000 I mean, we know the state is just as willing and able to initiate force against people as anybody else.

02:09:46.000 You know, I mean, why?

02:09:48.000 Well, this guy has a fancy hat, this guy's a federal agent, and so he gets to discharge this kind of weapon.

02:09:55.000 I don't think that makes him any much more different than me, really.

02:09:58.000 But we have control over the state.

02:10:00.000 It's not like the state is this monolithic thing that just sweeps across.

02:10:04.000 Of course we do.

02:10:05.000 Of course.

02:10:07.000 We're about to go to war in Syria.

02:10:08.000 I don't feel in control of the state.

02:10:11.000 Under whose direction?

02:10:12.000 The shadow government.

02:10:14.000 The Israel and the shadow government.

02:10:17.000 Trump doesn't bring us into war.

02:10:18.000 No, of course not.

02:10:19.000 Trump brought us out of Iraq.

02:10:21.000 He brought all our troops home from Iraq, put them in Afghanistan, but he did end most of our involvement there.

02:10:27.000 I don't know why you're not on the Trump train.

02:10:27.000 I thought that was Obama.

02:10:29.000 Well, I mean, I know why you're not on the Trump train, but we love Trump here.

02:10:34.000 We love our God Emperor in this country.

02:10:36.000 Still rooting for him.

02:10:42.000 How do you think he's going to do after the midterms?

02:10:47.000 How do you account for the low approval rating, the lowest of all time?

02:10:51.000 Well, I think a lot of it is phony.

02:10:53.000 I think a lot of it is fake polls.

02:10:55.000 You know, he had low approval, or rather, he had low numbers in the polls before the election, remember?

02:11:00.000 And then how did that turn out for you guys?

02:11:02.000 Not so great.

02:11:02.000 So I don't really put too much stock in the polls.

02:11:05.000 So the stats that you don't like aren't true and are probably fake stats?

02:11:09.000 Well, I think that in terms of these kinds of stats, if you look at sampling, it's a lot different than crime statistics.

02:11:16.000 And in a political survey, you can choose who you survey and who you don't survey.

02:11:21.000 For a lot of the polls in 2017, They surveyed, they oversampled Democrats, they oversampled demographics that were unfriendly to Trump.

02:11:29.000 With crime statistics, it doesn't quite work that way.

02:11:32.000 You seem to have a conspiratorial mind.

02:11:34.000 It's very interesting.

02:11:35.000 Well, yeah, I happen to think that people are not always honest.

02:11:35.000 I do.

02:11:38.000 9 11.

02:11:40.000 I think the government doesn't always tell us the truth, but call me crazy.

02:11:44.000 Maybe you think the government tells us everything that is correct all the time.

02:11:48.000 I'm a little skeptical.

02:11:50.000 Is 9 11, was that an inside job, building stuff?

02:11:53.000 Well, I don't know.

02:11:54.000 You tell me.

02:11:55.000 I mean, it's not a very, I see the video.

02:11:57.000 World Trade Center 7 collapsing.

02:11:59.000 I don't know.

02:12:01.000 I don't know if I buy it.

02:12:02.000 I'm not an engineer.

02:12:03.000 And also, hey, look, I would never call myself a truther.

02:12:08.000 But you look at how the World Trade Center was constructed in terms of all of the support was on the outside.

02:12:16.000 This is one of the most structurally sound buildings in the world.

02:12:19.000 It was supposed to withstand many planes flying into it when it was designed.

02:12:23.000 And yet, so these are just quite innocuous questions.

02:12:28.000 And, you know, of course, I believe the government story.

02:12:31.000 I would never.

02:12:32.000 Why would I doubt the government story?

02:12:34.000 Right.

02:12:34.000 It's not like they didn't touch up.

02:12:35.000 Or like in Operation Northwoods.

02:12:37.000 It's not like they would ever do anything like that.

02:12:39.000 Were the Jews involved?

02:12:40.000 Was that a Jewish thing, 9 11?

02:12:41.000 Well, I don't know.

02:12:47.000 Benjamin Netanyahu said a month after that it was a kiloton bomb that went off.

02:12:52.000 And he also said that in the anniversary of 9 11 last year.

02:12:55.000 But I'm sure it was a slip of the tongue.

02:12:57.000 I would never. 1.00

02:12:58.000 Of course, Israel did. 1.00

02:12:58.000 No. 1.00

02:12:59.000 Of course, they were not involved.

02:13:01.000 They were the number one beneficiary of it.

02:13:03.000 But.

02:13:04.000 Not involved.

02:13:05.000 Please. 1.00

02:13:06.000 The only problem with Jews is there's not enough of them. 1.00

02:13:09.000 That's what I always say. 1.00

02:13:12.000 Okay.

02:13:13.000 Entertain me.

02:13:14.000 Roswell, New Mexico.

02:13:15.000 Have aliens landed?

02:13:16.000 I don't know.

02:13:17.000 Yeah, I don't know about that one.

02:13:19.000 What I think is going to happen about aliens is I'm a big believer in Project Bluebeam.

02:13:24.000 You ever hear that?

02:13:26.000 I'm a big believer that one of these days they were warning about it on Poll and on X for a long time that Project Bluebeam, they're going to shine.

02:13:26.000 No.

02:13:35.000 Lights in the sky that make it look like an alien invasion, and they're going to use that to usher in.

02:13:40.000 I don't really believe in that one.

02:13:42.000 I don't really believe in aliens.

02:13:43.000 I don't know anything about aliens.

02:13:45.000 Name me two false flag events in America in the past 20 years. 0.62

02:13:50.000 Well, I think it's instructive.

02:13:51.000 You know, I joke a little bit about some of this stuff.

02:13:53.000 Some of it I believe more than others, but I think it's instructive to look at Operation Northwoods, which was a, and this is not even, this is not conspiracy stuff.

02:14:02.000 You can find this on any encyclopedia.

02:14:04.000 Operation Northwoods was a plan by the CIA.

02:14:08.000 To cause terror attacks across the United States and to blame the Cubans for it so that they could rally public support for a war in Cuba.

02:14:17.000 And this is all declassified.

02:14:18.000 This is from, if you see.

02:14:19.000 Submit a Freedom of Information Act request, you'll find it.

02:14:22.000 You can find it online too.

02:14:24.000 This is not crazy stuff.

02:14:26.000 So once I saw that, I think it was in the 1970s, I think it was 73 or 76 or sometime between there.

02:14:33.000 But once I understood that the government was willing and able to lie, I said, really, all bets are off.

02:14:39.000 Because really, the only reason we don't take stock in conspiracy theories is we give the government the benefit of the doubt.

02:14:44.000 We say, well, nobody really looks into it.

02:14:46.000 Nobody really cares to look into it because they say, well, that's probably crazy.

02:14:50.000 That's probably.

02:14:51.000 But I think once you get rid of that benefit of the doubt, it's like all bets are off.

02:14:55.000 So you love America, but you distrust the government.

02:14:58.000 Yeah.

02:14:58.000 When Donald Trump is president, do you distrust the government less?

02:15:03.000 Well, I think you have to differentiate between what you call the government.

02:15:06.000 I mean, the state is a very complicated apparatus.

02:15:08.000 I mean, certainly nobody would think you're referring to the government when you talk about a municipal village or committee or anything like that.

02:15:16.000 What you have in the administration right now is you have these entrenched bureaucratic and intelligence interests.

02:15:22.000 In the Defense Department, in the intelligence community, in the Pentagon, where they have a very specific agenda and they'll do what it takes to pursue it.

02:15:31.000 So I see Trump as kind of infiltrating a hostile organization that went against.

02:15:38.000 I mean, you can look for the past 20 years, civilian governments come and go, but the policies stay the same.

02:15:42.000 And everybody in the world knows this.

02:15:44.000 Russia knows this.

02:15:45.000 They all know it.

02:15:47.000 So I think you have to differentiate between the shadow government and whatever civilian government is in power.

02:15:52.000 That's a good question.

02:15:53.000 You believe in conspiracies.

02:15:54.000 What about the Russian collusion?

02:15:55.000 Do you think Russia had anything to do with that election?

02:15:57.000 Of course not.

02:15:58.000 Totally bogus.

02:15:58.000 Bogus.

02:15:59.000 So that one doesn't suit you.

02:16:01.000 Well, and even if it did, I wouldn't care, to be quite honest.

02:16:03.000 Even if it did, I really.

02:16:05.000 And the reason being is because there's all kinds of foreign interference in our elections that nobody seems to mind until it's a power that wants a candidate that wants borders.

02:16:14.000 How about WikiLeaks?

02:16:14.000 Okay, sure.

02:16:16.000 No, APAC.

02:16:17.000 You have APAC, which is the largest foreign lobby in the country, which, you know, we have people with dual citizenship in the government.

02:16:24.000 Look at the administration.

02:16:25.000 Under George W. Bush, how many dual citizens were in that administration?

02:16:29.000 How many people that would have some kind of a weird reason that they might support a war that would benefit Israel in the Defense Department, in the Pentagon, in the NSC?

02:16:37.000 I mean, I guess it depends on which dual citizen it is.

02:16:40.000 I mean, I'm a dual citizen.

02:16:42.000 Not really. 1.00

02:16:43.000 I think all dual citizens should be barred from holding public office. 1.00

02:16:47.000 How could you have two allegiances and serve in our government? 1.00

02:16:50.000 It's ridiculous. 0.55

02:16:50.000 Well, what if it's with an ally? 0.55

02:16:52.000 Wouldn't care.

02:16:53.000 Wouldn't care.

02:16:54.000 It's about America, my friend.

02:16:55.000 It's e pluribus unum.

02:16:57.000 You come here.

02:16:58.000 You're an American.

02:16:58.000 You serve in our government.

02:16:59.000 You better not have an allegiance to another country, citizenship or otherwise.

02:17:03.000 Your prediction on 2020?

02:17:06.000 Very uncertain.

02:17:06.000 I don't know.

02:17:07.000 God only knows what will happen.

02:17:09.000 You've got the IC report that's set to come out.

02:17:12.000 Things could change very drastically after that.

02:17:14.000 This is an actual question I have for you, Republicans.

02:17:17.000 Will anybody challenge Trump?

02:17:20.000 How does that even work?

02:17:21.000 I think it could happen, yeah.

02:17:23.000 No, but I'm not saying from the left.

02:17:24.000 I'm saying from the right.

02:17:25.000 Yeah, no, I think it's going to happen.

02:17:27.000 I think, well, this has happened before.

02:17:30.000 This has happened.

02:17:32.000 Before I were standing presidents, like Franklin Roosevelt in 1940, fought off a pretty rough primary challenge against somebody whose name escapes me right now.

02:17:42.000 Came very close to unseating the president for the nomination.

02:17:45.000 Could be Mike Pence.

02:17:46.000 Could be, you know, who knows.

02:17:47.000 But I doubt that.

02:17:48.000 Well, I doubt that. 0.81

02:17:50.000 Do you think that Donald Trump is a Christian?

02:17:54.000 He's a Presbyterian.

02:17:54.000 I do.

02:17:56.000 You think he believes in God?

02:17:57.000 I think he does, yeah.

02:17:59.000 Are you happy with his Christianity, his brand of Christianity?

02:18:02.000 No, but he's not.

02:18:03.000 I don't think we elected him to be the vicar of Christ in the White House.

02:18:07.000 I think we elected him to smash the globalists, to serve as a vanguard between, you know, this old world, or rather the new world establishment.

02:18:17.000 And you rate his performance to date as what?

02:18:20.000 A through F?

02:18:21.000 I rate his performance as A. Very solid so far.

02:18:26.000 Except for, we need the wall.

02:18:27.000 That's the only thing.

02:18:30.000 I would love to see him.

02:18:31.000 What do you think about Trump, Devin? 0.75

02:18:33.000 Oh, I loathe him.

02:18:33.000 What are your.

02:18:34.000 I'm just fascinated.

02:18:35.000 I'm tickled by it all. 0.99

02:18:37.000 It's funny because I watched a video where you were like, he's an arrogant douche. 0.97

02:18:43.000 And I was like, does this guy just have no sense of self awareness? 0.94

02:18:46.000 I just thought it was kind of a funny thing.

02:18:48.000 Actually, AIU made a video on me when I did.

02:18:51.000 A Trump video, I mean, I'm in a little battle.

02:18:55.000 Yeah, that's a better question, actually.

02:18:57.000 Andy, where do you stand on Trump now?

02:19:00.000 Because you used to support him.

02:19:02.000 Again, I never, like, I told you this already.

02:19:06.000 I was laughing at how everyone was upset.

02:19:10.000 Now, in retrospect, now, with everything that happened, he's done some good things and some things I don't agree with, but I'm indifferent.

02:19:21.000 I don't hate him and I don't love him.

02:19:23.000 It's sort of like he's done things where I'm like, oh, that's cool. 0.99

02:19:26.000 And then he said some shit where I'm like, ah, come on, man. 0.98

02:19:28.000 What are you doing? 1.00

02:19:29.000 But I don't hate him.

02:19:31.000 I think he's good for America right now.

02:19:34.000 My man. 1.00

02:19:35.000 Like, I don't like the Portuguese. 1.00

02:19:38.000 You know, the fucking Christ that saved America. 0.99

02:19:41.000 But I think he's good, you know? 0.99

02:19:43.000 I think he's better than what Hillary would have been.

02:19:46.000 Because you were super pro Hillary, right?

02:19:50.000 I'm pro Democrats.

02:19:52.000 So, yeah, I'm pro any Democrat.

02:19:54.000 Even though Hillary was like a criminal, I mean, you were okay with all that?

02:19:58.000 I don't buy any of that. 0.92

02:20:00.000 You don't buy any of that?

02:20:02.000 No.

02:20:03.000 Come on.

02:20:04.000 Were you for war with Russia or war with Syria?

02:20:07.000 No.

02:20:08.000 That was all blown up and hysterical.

02:20:10.000 She's not physically.

02:20:11.000 Even if you wanted a no fly zone over Syria?

02:20:13.000 I don't know how that would have worked out. 1.00

02:20:15.000 That's a good question.

02:20:15.000 Wait a minute.

02:20:17.000 Are we against Russia?

02:20:17.000 Is Russia our ally or our enemy?

02:20:20.000 Russia's our rival.

02:20:21.000 I don't think they're an enemy or an ally. 0.95

02:20:23.000 I think they're a rival.

02:20:24.000 They're a rival power. 1.00

02:20:25.000 Do you think it would be a problem if our president had business dealings with Russians? 0.92

02:20:30.000 In this specific case, no, not at all.

02:20:33.000 Not when Hillary Clinton had all kinds of deals. 0.51

02:20:36.000 I mean, look at the Clinton Foundation, where she, you know, talk about business dealings with the Russians.

02:20:40.000 She got hundreds of millions of dollars from the same people that benefited from the Uranium One deal, which she brokered.

02:20:46.000 I mean, this is.

02:20:47.000 It's pretty sad to go through criticizing someone's charity.

02:20:50.000 Your charity, somebody that was nasty gave money to your charity that helps the world.

02:20:54.000 Yeah, I'm sure it was funneling money to you. 0.99

02:20:57.000 You're very naive. 0.99

02:20:58.000 Are you so naive that you're? 0.85

02:21:00.000 Gonna say that charities are not business in the U.S.

02:21:03.000 Yeah, and it's specifically of the Clinton family.

02:21:07.000 Give me a minute.

02:21:07.000 Where's the smoking gun?

02:21:08.000 What is she doing with this charity money? 1.00

02:21:10.000 Funneling it to what's the smoking gun?

02:21:12.000 Oh, we can point to the number of smoking guns, but it was a very perfect storm for a lot of you people who are sort of anti woman in general, kind of have that general.

02:21:24.000 We love women, we cherish women.

02:21:29.000 Oh, no way.

02:21:30.000 So, I was number one respecter of women on. 0.90

02:21:33.000 On planet Earth. 1.00

02:21:34.000 Wow.

02:21:35.000 He does that 24 7.

02:21:36.000 Okay, that's right. 1.00

02:21:38.000 We women respect women. 1.00

02:21:40.000 You don't really think that. 1.00

02:21:42.000 If Hillary Clinton.

02:21:43.000 What?

02:21:44.000 Oh, you don't think that these guys have issues with women? 0.99

02:21:47.000 Well, I'm saying you think the only reason they picked Trump over Hillary was.

02:21:51.000 Oh, I think it's a major, major reason.

02:21:54.000 If Hillary Clinton looked like John Kerry or looked like, I don't know, any guy, any man, same ideas, he would be president.

02:22:02.000 Do you agree with that?

02:22:03.000 Here we go again.

02:22:04.000 You agree?

02:22:05.000 No, I think they'd still be a criminal, still be a criminal, and still wouldn't have gotten elected.

02:22:05.000 Most sexism.

02:22:12.000 Maybe because they had a male brain, they would have gone to Wisconsin and Michigan to campaign. 0.97

02:22:12.000 Would they have gone? 0.97

02:22:18.000 Yeah, that would have been useful.

02:22:19.000 I don't think so.

02:22:21.000 But maybe not.

02:22:22.000 Yeah, who knows?

02:22:22.000 No, I don't think so.

02:22:23.000 I mean, to AIU's question.

02:22:25.000 I'm sorry, to AIU's question.

02:22:26.000 I was just thinking about it.

02:22:27.000 No, I don't think it's because she's a chick why they didn't vote.

02:22:31.000 I mean, conservatives would have voted conservative regardless, right?

02:22:33.000 And then you have the people in between. 0.99

02:22:36.000 I think my theory on this was people were sick of the government lying or corruption and bullshit, and Trump was just a straight up dude. 0.98

02:22:48.000 Who legitimately came off as a guy who you would have known. 0.99

02:22:53.000 Not just like a.

02:22:53.000 Andy.

02:22:54.000 Trump lies constantly.

02:22:56.000 Have you ever.

02:22:56.000 They've done.

02:22:57.000 No, I know that.

02:22:58.000 But he likes like 80% of the things he says.

02:23:00.000 But he came off. 0.96

02:23:02.000 He's a total con man. 0.98

02:23:03.000 He came off as a guy. 0.99

02:23:06.000 You're like, that dude's.

02:23:08.000 The one thing I. Funny, right.

02:23:08.000 He was funny.

02:23:10.000 The one thing I will grant you, though, is that, yes, the Republicans and Trump, they use the fact that there is some lunacy on the left.

02:23:20.000 And I just.

02:23:21.000 The problem is.

02:23:22.000 Actual policies matter.

02:23:24.000 The actual way in which we spend our money and all these budgets and all that. 1.00

02:23:27.000 And so, purple haired feminists and the extreme SJW bullshit doesn't really filter down into actual political things. 1.00

02:23:34.000 And it rarely does. 0.99

02:23:35.000 And I'm against all of it and I push back against that.

02:23:38.000 I just think that it's unfortunate because I don't think the policies that he's putting in are the best for the country. 0.64

02:23:43.000 Aside from that, you have to admit, the clusterfuck that happened to the left was absolutely amazing.

02:23:52.000 Andy, here's my problem it's not even with diehard conservatives. 0.85

02:23:56.000 You can have disagreements.

02:23:57.000 There are people that vote Republican because they honestly are Republicans and they think that's better.

02:24:02.000 That's always been the case.

02:24:03.000 My problem was with people like you who I don't think, if you took a test and said, who should I vote for?

02:24:07.000 It would say you should vote for Hillary Clinton.

02:24:10.000 And you, and yeah, I guarantee you, and you could probably go back in the archives and take that test now.

02:24:15.000 And if you went policy by policy and run the numbers, it's going to say you should vote.

02:24:19.000 You agree with Hillary Clinton 89%.

02:24:22.000 And that's, it's just bizarre to me.

02:24:24.000 I agree with that.

02:24:26.000 I know you, Andy, and I agree with you there.

02:24:29.000 You are a Hillary Clinton.

02:24:31.000 All right, fine.

02:24:32.000 I want to say it's done.

02:24:33.000 But here's why that matters. 0.96

02:24:35.000 Because if you can take out the personalities of the politics and, you know, oh, Hillary and all her baggage and shit, and just go by policies. 0.93

02:24:45.000 I agreed with Hillary on 96%. 0.82

02:24:46.000 But I agreed with anybody on those policies on 96%.

02:24:50.000 So it's really a no brainer for me.

02:24:53.000 And it will be a no brainer the next election cycle.

02:24:55.000 It's based off the actual issues. 1.00

02:24:57.000 Not just, you know, oh, Hillary tripped and so fuck her. 1.00

02:25:01.000 She tripped. 1.00

02:25:03.000 It wasn't that.

02:25:05.000 I don't know.

02:25:05.000 And there's a lot of conservative things that I like.

02:25:08.000 But I'm not Christian, for example, or religious at all.

02:25:13.000 Hey, I don't even want to start this with you, Nick.

02:25:16.000 Andy, for starters, are you pro abortion?

02:25:20.000 Should abortion be a right? 0.84

02:25:21.000 Yeah. 0.72

02:25:23.000 Exactly.

02:25:24.000 Do you think that's going to be a Democratic position or a Republican position?

02:25:27.000 Of course, Democratic.

02:25:28.000 Yeah.

02:25:29.000 Okay, so there's going to be 25 questions like that, and you're going to side on the Democratic side.

02:25:33.000 And then when you support Trump, it makes no sense, which is why I was irritated with you.

02:25:37.000 Irritated? 0.99

02:25:38.000 You made a fucking 45 minute video and before a stream saying the most horrendous things in the book to me. 0.99

02:25:45.000 And this is why. 0.99

02:25:46.000 I'm going to explain.

02:25:47.000 Yes, I just admit it.

02:25:48.000 I was irritated with you for voting Trump.

02:25:50.000 Sorry, not voting, supporting.

02:25:52.000 I watched your videos every single day.

02:25:53.000 Do you know how hurtful it is?

02:25:55.000 I'm like, but hearing the voice that I would like, yeah. 1.00

02:26:00.000 Just say, you piece of fucking garbage sucking shit. 1.00

02:26:04.000 I'm like, Jesus. 1.00

02:26:06.000 Andy, just to console you, Andy, AIU said that my accent was an insult to the white race.

02:26:14.000 I know.

02:26:15.000 That's lies.

02:26:16.000 Yeah, but Andy, I don't have it.

02:26:19.000 It's nothing personal.

02:26:20.000 We barely know each other.

02:26:21.000 I know.

02:26:22.000 All right, okay.

02:26:24.000 I'm just saying, I would be curious for you to take that test live.

02:26:29.000 And as you take it, explain why you're answering the way you're answering.

02:26:32.000 And if it comes out, it says 75% you agree with Trump.

02:26:35.000 I'll be like, okay, fine.

02:26:37.000 But answer it honestly.

02:26:38.000 Don't answer what you think the Trump vote would be.

02:26:40.000 Of course, I wouldn't do.

02:26:41.000 I mean, look, like I said to you on my response videos when we talked, all that stuff, it's her corruption, her lies, just having that kind of person, regardless if I think abortion should be legal.

02:27:01.000 What?

02:27:03.000 But what I'm saying is, and also, these policies, like making abortion illegal, would never happen.

02:27:11.000 Like, in my opinion.

02:27:13.000 Ask Nick that.

02:27:14.000 A Catholic conservative?

02:27:15.000 He doesn't know that.

02:27:17.000 It's going to happen one day.

02:27:19.000 I think you'd have a field day with Nick on religion.

02:27:23.000 I think Nick's thing was you believe that because we like to do things or something or we have emotion, that's what God is.

02:27:33.000 No, Andy, no.

02:27:34.000 Yeah, you said it's not just like things in your mind.

02:27:36.000 Okay, sorry.

02:27:37.000 It's like Oprah.

02:27:38.000 What I tried to articulate to you, and this wasn't even an argument, this wasn't a side.

02:27:43.000 What I said was.

02:27:45.000 That in the absence of the divine, in the absence of God, in the absence of the immaterial, when you fall in love, you know, or you, all the most sacred things, what we would describe, I think, in very religious terminology and language, would necessarily be boiled down to chemical reactions, neurons firing.

02:28:08.000 And I didn't, that was not my argument for God.

02:28:10.000 I just said, to me, that would be a very unfortunate and a tragic thing.

02:28:15.000 Okay, that's what you said.

02:28:16.000 I'm sorry.

02:28:16.000 Sorry.

02:28:16.000 Yeah.

02:28:17.000 Yeah.

02:28:17.000 I didn't mean to.

02:28:18.000 Yeah.

02:28:18.000 No, that's all right.

02:28:19.000 Easy pagan. 0.98

02:28:20.000 Easy heathen before you start trying to slander a big cat. 0.98

02:28:25.000 We're going to have to get you in church, big guy. 0.98

02:28:27.000 The world's going to end soon, and you're going to hell if you don't get in church.

02:28:32.000 Hey, Nick, was Jesus an actual person, historical person?

02:28:35.000 Of course he was.

02:28:36.000 He rose from the dead, and he was born of a virgin.

02:28:38.000 That's right.

02:28:40.000 Is he coming back?

02:28:40.000 Okay.

02:28:42.000 He's coming back.

02:28:43.000 And when he does, you're going to be in trouble, my friend.

02:28:45.000 Hey, nobody knows the day or the hour, but when he does, you're going to be in trouble.

02:28:50.000 Hey, I'm back.

02:28:51.000 I'm not going to be thinking about it.

02:28:53.000 What's that?

02:28:53.000 Do you keep an eye on Israel and are you concerned with Israel because that's where you think he's coming back to?

02:28:57.000 Because he was a Jew after all. 0.93

02:28:59.000 Here we go. 0.99

02:29:00.000 I've never heard this one before.

02:29:03.000 I've never heard this one before.

02:29:06.000 That's from the, what do they call that?

02:29:08.000 The Schofield Bible, all that stuff about Zionism. 0.60

02:29:12.000 Yeah, give me a break. 1.00

02:29:13.000 But yeah, he probably would be coming back around there.

02:29:15.000 He will be coming back.

02:29:16.000 And when he comes back, he's killing a large percentage of the world.

02:29:19.000 Well, well, you know, he says in the gospel.

02:29:24.000 Mm hmm.

02:29:25.000 When the world ends, there's going to be earthquakes, wars, all kinds of things.

02:29:29.000 And so, I'm sorry, sounds legit.

02:29:33.000 If there was a guy, yeah, it's really, I love your name though.

02:29:36.000 Atheism is on, I mean, this is like the most fedora tier atheist nonsense.

02:29:42.000 Atheism is unstoppable, says the kangaroo. 0.78

02:29:44.000 I mean, you're standing up against 2,000 years of tradition and theology, but you got it all figured out.

02:29:50.000 Nick, Nick, Nick.

02:29:50.000 Let's go.

02:29:51.000 If some guy, right, like was Jesus, let's say it's all real and Jesus is back, right?

02:29:59.000 And now imagine this dude's like, he has a dream or whatever, a vision.

02:30:03.000 And then he starts saying this on the steps of whatever, wherever he is, right? 0.99

02:30:08.000 And go, everyone, everyone would be like, who the fuck is this homeless, crazy dude who thinks he's Jesus? 0.99

02:30:14.000 How would Jesus prove he's Jesus? 1.00

02:30:17.000 Well, you know, I think we would know.

02:30:20.000 Yeah.

02:30:21.000 A better question for you.

02:30:22.000 Do you think that Jesus would be pro gun?

02:30:25.000 You think Jesus is an arrogant?

02:30:27.000 This is classic. 0.92

02:30:28.000 See, now I know. 1.00

02:30:29.000 Now I know you're Jewish because this is a classic act of. 1.00

02:30:32.000 Jewish. 1.00

02:30:33.000 I know, no, but he's got at least he's spiritually that way. 1.00

02:30:37.000 At least, no, because this is a classic tactic which is used.

02:30:41.000 Okay, maybe he's just a left wing guy.

02:30:43.000 No, he's just.

02:30:44.000 He is Jewish. 1.00

02:30:45.000 Hold up. 1.00

02:30:46.000 You are not a Christian. 0.99

02:30:48.000 I just want to go ahead. 1.00

02:30:49.000 I want to just establish something.

02:30:51.000 I'm here on Worski Live.

02:30:52.000 Yeah, let's hear it.

02:30:54.000 Is it bad to be a Jew?

02:30:56.000 No, no, never.

02:30:59.000 No, no, no.

02:31:00.000 You don't have angry, negative feelings about Jews, even though your Lord and Savior is.

02:31:03.000 Me?

02:31:04.000 Me?

02:31:05.000 Seems like you do. 0.97

02:31:07.000 I am the least anti Semitic person. 0.99

02:31:09.000 I am the least anti Semitic person you've ever met.

02:31:12.000 And the reason I say that is because this is a classic tactic which is used by the left, which is they're not Christian, but they will use your own faith against you.

02:31:20.000 It's, oh, would Jesus be in favor of guns?

02:31:23.000 He would be.

02:31:23.000 It's internally inconsistent, my friend.

02:31:26.000 That's what it is.

02:31:27.000 So you think Jesus would be like he'd be a gun advocate.

02:31:30.000 He would say, yeah, you know, love thy neighbor and peace and all that, and that's good? 0.99

02:31:34.000 Oh, but see, here's why Christians, it's so disingenuous when non Christians try and use their Faith against them. 1.00

02:31:40.000 How about if you don't know the answer to the question? 0.99

02:31:43.000 I'll tell you because you don't know the first thing in the gospel.

02:31:43.000 I'll tell you.

02:31:46.000 Jesus Christ himself said, the man himself and also God.

02:31:50.000 He said, I came not to bring peace, I came to bring a sword.

02:31:55.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:31:56.000 This isn't even the warlord Jesus.

02:31:58.000 It's warlord Jesus.

02:32:00.000 See?

02:32:00.000 There it is.

02:32:02.000 Wow. 0.97

02:32:03.000 He's a Somali warlord. 0.99

02:32:06.000 Cool.

02:32:07.000 That's amazing that you can balance all those ideas.

02:32:11.000 When the Crusades come, I'm coming right free. 0.92

02:32:14.000 I know you don't have a gun, so when the Crusades come back, I know where I'm going first to take on the heathens.

02:32:19.000 No, that's a joke.

02:32:21.000 Rhetorically, I mean.

02:32:22.000 I mean, rhetorically speaking.

02:32:24.000 But no, Jesus Christ told his disciples to sell their capes and their walking sticks and buy swords.

02:32:33.000 And do you believe that the Muslims, the Muslims who believe in the same prophets as you and some of the same scriptures, you think that they are heathens as well? 0.98

02:32:41.000 Yeah, Islam is essentially a Christian heresy. 0.96

02:32:45.000 So, when they reference Allah, which is just the word for God, are they referencing Yahweh? 0.99

02:32:49.000 Is that your God that they're talking about? 0.99

02:32:51.000 Well, yeah, but it's, again, Islam is a Christian heresy. 1.00

02:32:56.000 Okay. 0.93

02:32:56.000 And so this is how it's been viewed classically in terms of, you go back to medieval times, this is how they saw Islam. 0.93

02:33:02.000 So, all Muslims do not go to heaven at all.

02:33:05.000 They're not misguided.

02:33:07.000 Well, if you want to get into, and I know you're having a blast with this because you only believe in flesh, you only believe in the ballot box.

02:33:15.000 You're, Your God is the state.

02:33:17.000 Your rituals are the democratic liberal ones.

02:33:20.000 And of course, that cannot be ridiculed. 1.00

02:33:22.000 It's only the silly Christian civilization that brought you all those. 1.00

02:33:27.000 No, but back to the point. 1.00

02:33:30.000 No, where Islam differentiates is, of course, they believe in the prophet. 0.86

02:33:34.000 And we don't know who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.

02:33:36.000 God can save anyone through his mercy.

02:33:38.000 But if you're not in communion with Christ's church, it's going to be a lot more difficult for you.

02:33:42.000 What is your opinion?

02:33:43.000 You're a student of history and of religion.

02:33:46.000 What is your opinion of the life example of Muhammad? 1.00

02:33:49.000 It was terrible, terrible. 1.00

02:33:51.000 Why?

02:33:51.000 Because he was violent?

02:33:52.000 He might be pro NRA.

02:33:54.000 Well, not because he was violent, but because, I mean, the guy was a savage.

02:33:57.000 There's a big difference between violence and between this kind of.

02:34:01.000 Muhammad would be in the NRA. 1.00

02:34:02.000 Give me a break with these shit-tier, shit-live left-wing arguments. 1.00

02:34:07.000 Good God. 1.00

02:34:09.000 Why is that left-wing?

02:34:10.000 Because it's such a convoluted. 0.57

02:34:12.000 Muhammad would be in the NRA. 1.00

02:34:15.000 Put that on a bumper sticker, will you? 0.99

02:34:16.000 Put that on the bumper sticker of your Prius.

02:34:18.000 My guess, yeah. 1.00

02:34:19.000 Drive it to the vegan store.

02:34:21.000 Who's more violent? 0.95

02:34:23.000 Drive it to the male hormone replacement drug store. 1.00

02:34:26.000 Who's more violent? 0.99

02:34:27.000 You were just condemning Muhammad and Islam for.

02:34:29.000 You said barbaric, you said violent.

02:34:30.000 Oh, yeah.

02:34:31.000 Who was more violent, Muhammad or Jesus? 0.98

02:34:33.000 Muhammad.

02:34:34.000 Jesus wasn't a violent.

02:34:35.000 The only violent thing he did was in the temple.

02:34:38.000 But you just said he came with a sword.

02:34:40.000 What was that about?

02:34:41.000 Well, the point was that he came to defy.

02:34:43.000 He said, I'm not here to be essentially the liberal conception of Christ, which is, you know, peace and love and all that stuff.

02:34:49.000 He said, what he meant by the sword was that we are not here to make friends.

02:34:53.000 We are not here.

02:34:54.000 We're here and it will cause division.

02:34:57.000 What we're saying here is going to cause a lot of problems.

02:35:00.000 So while Christ was the Prince of Peace and all of this, he understood that.

02:35:05.000 That his coming would result in violence.

02:35:07.000 It would result in division.

02:35:09.000 That was the point.

02:35:10.000 And it will result in more violence when he returns.

02:35:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:35:13.000 Well, I mean, he said that the signs for his return will be violence.

02:35:17.000 And have we seen any signs?

02:35:19.000 Are you a rapture guy?

02:35:20.000 Is it coming soon?

02:35:22.000 I genuinely, when people say, oh, it's looking like the prophecy, it's looking like he's coming back, I always say, nah.

02:35:29.000 He said himself in the gospel, nobody knows.

02:35:32.000 I don't think he said it in the gospel, but he said at some point, nobody knows the time or the day.

02:35:36.000 What do you think about when they poll most Christians and they say, Do you think Jesus will return?

02:35:40.000 Do you think he'll return in your lifetime? 0.96

02:35:40.000 They say, Yes. 0.96

02:35:42.000 And 60% or something say, Yes.

02:35:45.000 Some huge number.

02:35:46.000 Do you think that's self serving?

02:35:47.000 Do you think they just want him to return?

02:35:49.000 Because they're sort of fanboying.

02:35:50.000 I don't know.

02:35:51.000 Now you're asking a different question about human nature.

02:35:54.000 Yeah, it's a new question.

02:35:55.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:35:56.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:35:57.000 Which Christians say that?

02:36:00.000 Okay, well, American Christians are mostly Protestants, which I'm Catholic.

02:36:00.000 American Christians.

02:36:05.000 We're a little bit different than Protestants.

02:36:08.000 What percentage are you sure that there is a God?

02:36:11.000 What would you put the number on that?

02:36:13.000 99.99%.

02:36:15.000 Is there anything that could be shown to you that would change that number?

02:36:19.000 Yeah, if somebody answered the cosmological arguments and the teleological argument put forward by Aquinas, if that was put in dispute, I don't know how you do it, then maybe there'd be room for doubt.

02:36:33.000 Yeah, there are people in the chat who are claiming that you're trolling and you're trying to troll Nick.

02:36:42.000 Into submission.

02:36:44.000 Right?

02:36:46.000 I'm just answering questions.

02:36:47.000 This is a great informative session.

02:36:49.000 I want to tell people in the chat because the people are spurring in the chat.

02:36:51.000 This is entertaining.

02:36:53.000 This is interesting.

02:36:54.000 I'm enjoying this.

02:36:55.000 What do you mean, trolling? 1.00

02:36:57.000 Yeah, obviously, I think he's dead wrong on all this shit. 1.00

02:37:00.000 But it's interesting for me to probe a guy who's crazy. 0.99

02:37:03.000 Sometimes probing people who you disagree with is interesting.

02:37:07.000 I don't know.

02:37:09.000 I don't have a thing called gun control is unstoppable.

02:37:11.000 I'm interested in atheism.

02:37:12.000 I'm interested in this conversation.

02:37:14.000 Yeah.

02:37:14.000 Exactly.

02:37:15.000 I'm going to tell you my name.

02:37:18.000 I was asked on to this program.

02:37:20.000 I didn't say, hey, Andy, can I discuss gun control with you?

02:37:22.000 No, he came to me and said, will you come on to discuss gun control? 1.00

02:37:25.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:37:25.000 I didn't DM me. 1.00

02:37:26.000 And I'll say to the people, I'll release the DM.

02:37:32.000 There is no doubt that AIU is simply deploying atheistic beliefs and trying to understand how Nick believes, and that's how atheists do. 0.56

02:37:43.000 And I believe he's totally genuine.

02:37:45.000 That's totally in line with what he's been doing on YouTube forever.

02:37:48.000 It is.

02:37:49.000 Genuinely interesting to me, but there is a second layer, which is I'm speaking to my fans and friends who are atheists, and it's very amusing just to hear somebody like this and his thoughts.

02:38:00.000 Like, I don't have to say anything, it's just when he says it, it's amusing to us.

02:38:04.000 Well, and we laugh at fedora people.

02:38:06.000 This is the way it's around.

02:38:08.000 I'm a fedora world.

02:38:10.000 You ask us questions in the religious perspective that would be Andy, are you an atheist?

02:38:17.000 Yeah, yeah, I told you I'm an atheist.

02:38:21.000 How are you sure about that?

02:38:23.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:38:25.000 Okay.

02:38:26.000 Doesn't sound like it.

02:38:27.000 What do you mean?

02:38:28.000 How?

02:38:29.000 Because you're like, yeah, yeah, I'm an atheist.

02:38:31.000 No, I am.

02:38:32.000 I don't believe in God.

02:38:33.000 I don't believe in a deity at all.

02:38:34.000 No, I am.

02:38:36.000 But are you certain?

02:38:36.000 No.

02:38:38.000 Are you agnostic or are you atheist? 0.99

02:38:39.000 I was religious till I was like, well, agnostic is like a circle jerk away from atheist.

02:38:45.000 Sure, there could be potentially a God, maybe, but in my perspective, like from what I think, I think is more leaning towards no, so I just use the word atheist.

02:38:58.000 I'm leaning towards no.

02:39:00.000 No, no.

02:39:00.000 You're 51%.

02:39:01.000 Again, 99% sure because you can't be 100% sure of anything.

02:39:05.000 Happy.

02:39:06.000 Great.

02:39:06.000 Well done.

02:39:07.000 You passed that test.

02:39:09.000 I was going to ask something. 1.00

02:39:10.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

02:39:11.000 What was it? 1.00

02:39:12.000 Well, while you think about it, I do have a question for AIU. 0.99

02:39:15.000 Atheism is unstoppable. 0.72

02:39:17.000 About the nickname.

02:39:18.000 Do you actually believe that atheism is unstoppable, given the current birth rate of atheists in America? 0.90

02:39:25.000 The white baby? 0.92

02:39:26.000 Yeah, no. 0.96

02:39:28.000 It was a half second.

02:39:30.000 I was reacting to a movie called Unstoppable from Kirk Cameron, and I just wrote Atheism is Unstoppable.

02:39:36.000 As far as overall, it was the one where he.

02:39:39.000 It was a really bad movie.

02:39:41.000 The one with the trains that was unstoppable?

02:39:44.000 I'm having a reference.

02:39:47.000 No, I don't think.

02:39:49.000 I think it's up against a big challenge.

02:39:52.000 I mean, yeah, the birth rate thing is significant.

02:39:55.000 Also, people who are smarter, higher IQs, tend to have less babies, Jeff.

02:39:59.000 I don't know how you react to that.

02:40:01.000 So it's not like evolution and Darwinism is.

02:40:04.000 Leaning towards the intelligent and those who get this issue correct.

02:40:07.000 So I will acknowledge that.

02:40:10.000 Still doesn't have anything to do with us being right or not.

02:40:15.000 Well, we are due for a nickname change, I believe.

02:40:18.000 Yeah.

02:40:19.000 Atheism is not unstoppable.

02:40:19.000 Yeah.

02:40:22.000 We're going to put a stop to it one way or another.

02:40:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:40:25.000 I was going to ask you, I remember now.

02:40:27.000 Have you read, out of interest, Hitchens and Dawkins and Harris?

02:40:31.000 No, I have not read Hitchens or Dawkins. 1.00

02:40:34.000 The new atheists, no. 1.00

02:40:35.000 You're not interested to see the best and brightest from the other side and their arguments? 1.00

02:40:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:40.000 That's the best and brightest.

02:40:41.000 Well, here, I'll tell you why.

02:40:42.000 It's because.

02:40:43.000 Yeah, it is.

02:40:44.000 No, it's not.

02:40:44.000 Well, here's.

02:40:45.000 Because the argument that they do not address any.

02:40:50.000 The arguments that establish my belief in God, none of them come close to.

02:40:54.000 You don't think Hitchens addresses the cosmological argument?

02:40:57.000 Of course they do.

02:40:57.000 They do this every day.

02:40:59.000 The four cosmological arguments, he has not adequately answered any of them.

02:41:04.000 This has been done a million times.

02:41:05.000 But I'm just interested that you didn't read it.

02:41:07.000 He answers Paley's argument.

02:41:09.000 Paley in the 18th century made this weird intelligent design argument, which is derivative from the teleological argument.

02:41:16.000 They answer that, but they don't come anywhere near Aquinas.

02:41:18.000 They never have.

02:41:19.000 And that's why it's just not interesting to me. 0.98

02:41:22.000 Are Mormons Christian?

02:41:25.000 I mean, if they, what we identify as a Christian is if you believe that Christ is the Savior, if you believe, there's a few other things.

02:41:25.000 Yeah.

02:41:34.000 If you've been baptized, there's a couple of things, but yeah, essentially.

02:41:37.000 They're not in communion with Christ's church, but they are Christian. 0.90

02:41:40.000 Who's better?

02:41:43.000 Planted a book and then some dude found it around his neighborhood.

02:41:47.000 Joseph Smith, yeah.

02:41:49.000 You haven't seen Birdie.

02:41:50.000 Yeah, of course I've seen Birdie. 1.00

02:41:52.000 That's why I know this shit. 1.00

02:41:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:41:54.000 Of course. 1.00

02:41:55.000 It's a great musical.

02:41:58.000 I saw it down here.

02:41:59.000 It's so funny.

02:42:00.000 Yeah, I'm going to go watch it again when it's back in Toronto.

02:42:02.000 But yeah, don't they believe that? 1.00

02:42:03.000 Like, can't you at least go, yeah, that sounds like bullshit. 1.00

02:42:07.000 God bless you. 1.00

02:42:09.000 Who is better? 1.00

02:42:09.000 Yeah, it is dog shit. 1.00

02:42:12.000 Who's better, this Pope or the Last Pope? 1.00

02:42:14.000 Last Pope.

02:42:15.000 Definitely the Last Pope.

02:42:17.000 Why?

02:42:17.000 This one's too.

02:42:18.000 Reformed, too moderate?

02:42:20.000 Well, the problem is this Pope, all the time, he very, very closely comes to the border of heresy, and that's a problem.

02:42:29.000 So it's not really a problem.

02:42:30.000 But that's when you pull the Piccano. 0.99

02:42:31.000 Would you kill the Pope? 1.00

02:42:33.000 Would you shoot the Pope? 1.00

02:42:35.000 No.

02:42:35.000 But here's the thing the cardinals would have to declare that this Pope has ceded his office essentially through heresy.

02:42:42.000 There's a great article I read about it today.

02:42:44.000 But he hasn't come there quite yet.

02:42:46.000 If he promulgates heresy and it becomes prominent in the church, Then the cardinal's got to do something about that.

02:42:52.000 But we Catholics, we're not progressive.

02:42:54.000 We don't believe in utopia.

02:42:56.000 We believe in a world to come.

02:42:57.000 So that's why we're not really hasty about it.

02:43:01.000 And are you going to make a pilgrimage to Vatican City ever?

02:43:04.000 I may.

02:43:06.000 I may at some point.

02:43:07.000 That would be meaningful to you?

02:43:09.000 I think so, definitely.

02:43:10.000 To go to St. Peter's Basilica, I think it'd be meaningful to a non Christian to see Rome.

02:43:15.000 What a remarkable city.

02:43:16.000 And to Vatican City, incredible.

02:43:18.000 Very true.

02:43:19.000 A question on the nature of hell.

02:43:21.000 Hell's been around for quite some time.

02:43:24.000 Is it still currently occupied by all the souls that were sent to it?

02:43:28.000 Oh, yeah.

02:43:28.000 Forever.

02:43:29.000 Forever.

02:43:30.000 They are conscious right now, feeling pain.

02:43:33.000 Well, yeah.

02:43:34.000 I mean, essentially, that's what Catholic apologists say that hell.

02:43:40.000 I mean, we use metaphors to describe hell in the Bible.

02:43:44.000 But what hell is, is that you're apart from God.

02:43:46.000 You'll never meet God and you'll be away from Him.

02:43:49.000 You don't get eternal life.

02:43:51.000 And so that's.

02:43:52.000 Is it a metaphor or is it a literal place?

02:43:55.000 I don't know.

02:43:55.000 It's tough to say.

02:43:56.000 I'm not an expert on the hell question, but what I've seen from the apologists is that they say that it's not like demons poking with pitchforks, but it is, you know, place is kind of a weird way to say.

02:44:08.000 You know, once you die, you're not in a material place, right?

02:44:11.000 Not in space and time.

02:44:13.000 So it's difficult for us to fathom.

02:44:15.000 But you do have consciousness.

02:44:16.000 You do still exist.

02:44:17.000 And you are a wailing spirit.

02:44:18.000 I believe that's it.

02:44:19.000 Yeah.

02:44:20.000 Yeah.

02:44:21.000 There's wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

02:44:23.000 That's what they say.

02:44:24.000 And when did they start sending people to hell?

02:44:26.000 Was it after?

02:44:27.000 Jesus, or how about before all those millions of years before?

02:44:30.000 I don't know.

02:44:31.000 You'll have to ask an expert.

02:44:33.000 I'm not, I think they were curious about Europe. 0.96

02:44:35.000 You do so, like cavemen were, could be sent to hell.

02:44:38.000 I don't know.

02:44:40.000 Homo erectus in hell.

02:44:41.000 I, like I said, I don't know.

02:44:43.000 I'm not, I'm not an expert on the subject.

02:44:45.000 You'd have to ask one of the Catholic Twitter people who give me such a hard time about it.

02:44:50.000 If what AIU is saying about cavemen, this is before the Ten Commandments were given to people. 0.51

02:44:57.000 Yes.

02:44:58.000 And they were raping and murdering people all days. 0.90

02:45:00.000 So it was everyone up to hell up to that point. 1.00

02:45:04.000 And everyone's like, fuck, I already raped like 18 people. 0.99

02:45:07.000 Very nice. 1.00

02:45:08.000 Very nice.

02:45:09.000 That was a high IQ interruption.

02:45:10.000 Very nice.

02:45:11.000 I did it.

02:45:12.000 I did it.

02:45:13.000 Everyone hit one in the chat for high IQ interruption. 0.99

02:45:17.000 That's my 110 ranking that fucking full fucking speed. 1.00

02:45:21.000 Go ahead. 0.99

02:45:22.000 Yeah, I think people confront the hell question a little bit.

02:45:25.000 If I can offer some insight on the hell question, I think people confront it from this position of.

02:45:30.000 You know, if you're bad, God sends you here.

02:45:33.000 You know, if you're on the naughty list, you go into one room.

02:45:35.000 If you're on the nice list, you go into the other room.

02:45:37.000 But I think it's much more helpful to understand it in the sense that when you die, your soul is either in a state of grace, you're either in communion with God and you're able to meet Him, or it's not.

02:45:52.000 And I think it's either you're close with God, your soul is forever, you get to meet God.

02:45:57.000 And what we describe that as the beatific vision it's not like, hey, how are you?

02:46:00.000 It's like your soul becomes familiar with God, or that doesn't happen for you.

02:46:04.000 And then, in which case, that's probably the worst imaginable thing.

02:46:07.000 If you understand God in the sense that Aquinas does, that he is all knowing, all good, he's just, he's perfect everything, then the thought of being away from that is probably the worst thing that you could have, not ever being able to be in communion with that.

02:46:23.000 So I think that's the way we look at hell.

02:46:26.000 And you think our soul is a literal thing and not just a poetic use of words to describe someone's essence?

02:46:31.000 Well, I don't know.

02:46:32.000 It's funny how atheists even have to use religious language, things like essence, in order to, you know, what is essence?

02:46:39.000 Essence is religious.

02:46:41.000 It's a god.

02:46:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:42.000 Let's stop.

02:46:43.000 Why is that religious?

02:46:45.000 Well, I mean, we talk about, well, Aristotle was a big feature of Christianity, and he said, and Aquinas elaborated on it, that something has a substance, but it also has an essence in the sense that you are a certain atom, you know, you're a certain amount of atoms and variety of atoms and arrangements of them.

02:46:45.000 Sure.

02:47:04.000 But man, as we define it, also has an essence, it has certain characteristics.

02:47:09.000 And so, I guess essence isn't totally religious language, but it is a big part of the tradition.

02:47:14.000 We talk about essence.

02:47:15.000 You still.

02:47:15.000 You seem to be reliant on a lot of thinkers from the distant past.

02:47:18.000 Do you think for yourself or you just accept other thoughts?

02:47:21.000 That's what a traditionalist does.

02:47:22.000 A traditionalist.

02:47:23.000 False tradition.

02:47:24.000 Well, no.

02:47:25.000 I mean, we are able to evaluate different thoughts and how we evaluate it.

02:47:29.000 That's a very nice, pointed question.

02:47:31.000 Do you think for yourself or do you only read Hitchens and so forth?

02:47:34.000 No, I was an atheist on my own terms.

02:47:38.000 And then I read their books and they phrased it well and were eloquent.

02:47:40.000 I think at a certain point, I understood that it's beneficial for us to read.

02:47:47.000 Because then we understand the wisdom of people that have been here for a long time, people that were here a lot longer than us, institutions that lasted a lot longer than us.

02:47:56.000 So, no, I've read Aquinas, I've read Aristotle, and that's interesting.

02:47:59.000 You're almost like counter signaling reading.

02:48:01.000 And maybe it scares you that you're hearing names and phrases that you're not familiar with.

02:48:06.000 You have to straw man me.

02:48:07.000 I find it interesting that we're talking about religion, we're talking about our presence in this world and the cosmos.

02:48:13.000 And these are all claims about reality.

02:48:15.000 And science is what we've used to understand reality.

02:48:18.000 Here we go with the scientism.

02:48:19.000 Right, here's science.

02:48:21.000 What is science?

02:48:22.000 So you are relying on people that didn't have any of this knowledge.

02:48:25.000 Well, I don't think it really matters.

02:48:28.000 I think we're talking about, well, I'll tell you why.

02:48:32.000 Scientism is not a complete worldview.

02:48:34.000 I mean, for a long time, they regarded philosophy as a part of science because it covers a different area.

02:48:40.000 If we're to talk about God, something that's immaterial, that would not fall under the purview of science.

02:48:47.000 You say that like it's an established thing.

02:48:49.000 Something's immaterial.

02:48:51.000 You believe in the supernatural, but you can't provide any evidence for it.

02:48:54.000 And so, you're playing make believe, bro, and we know it.

02:48:56.000 Well, we're using reason.

02:48:58.000 We're using reason to establish this.

02:49:00.000 I mean, have you ever heard the four cosmological arguments from Aquinas?

02:49:03.000 Yeah, but what do you think reason is based on?

02:49:05.000 Evidence?

02:49:06.000 Have you heard them?

02:49:07.000 Yeah, I got it right here.

02:49:08.000 Let me just pull it up.

02:49:08.000 Hold on.

02:49:09.000 But you don't know.

02:49:10.000 You're going to say, oh, you know, you've never read God.

02:49:10.000 That's the thing.

02:49:13.000 Again, you're relying on other people's thoughts.

02:49:15.000 Do you have any thoughts that are unique to you? 0.77

02:49:17.000 How do you differ from other Catholics?

02:49:17.000 No, no, no.

02:49:19.000 Are you just standard Catholic?

02:49:21.000 We look at the arguments. 0.93

02:49:22.000 That have been made.

02:49:23.000 And you say atheism like these are the most original arguments in the world.

02:49:27.000 Like they haven't been going back and forth about this for thousands of years.

02:49:31.000 We go back to the.

02:49:32.000 Not the worst way to tell.

02:49:34.000 Look, you're a grown man.

02:49:36.000 I'm a young man.

02:49:37.000 I go back and I look at Thomas Aquinas, who dedicated his life to providing a reasonable and a rational proof for the existence of God.

02:49:45.000 And he did this very supremely effectively.

02:49:47.000 And so I read his arguments and I say they're effective.

02:49:49.000 And I look at some of the arguments, for example, the argument that's based on contingency.

02:49:54.000 I find that extremely convincing.

02:49:56.000 You don't need a microscope and, oh, you know, an apple fall from a tree.

02:50:01.000 I know everything.

02:50:02.000 You know, you don't have to rely on that to understand that that is a convincing proof, that it's almost a.

02:50:08.000 Philosophical necessity that something like God, you know, immovable, that is the uncaused causer, the unmoved mover, has to exist in some capacity.

02:50:17.000 And so it's not something that falls under the purview.

02:50:21.000 Yeah, that's really nice.

02:50:23.000 Atheists have got it all figured out. 1.00

02:50:24.000 Let me ask you something.

02:50:27.000 You talk a lot about good and bad so much.

02:50:29.000 Why is that objectively good and bad to you?

02:50:31.000 What binds you to your morality?

02:50:32.000 The moral debates are great.

02:50:34.000 I'm believing.

02:50:35.000 I'm asking.

02:50:36.000 I'd rather not discuss morality.

02:50:37.000 You just go back to that.

02:50:38.000 Why not?

02:50:40.000 What about this?

02:50:41.000 Wait, wait.

02:50:41.000 Why not?

02:50:42.000 You give me this whole, you give me this gauntlet of questions.

02:50:45.000 I readily answer them.

02:50:46.000 It's so tiring.

02:50:47.000 It's so tiring.

02:50:47.000 I can't go through the whole.

02:50:49.000 Because there's no answer.

02:50:50.000 Because there is no, because in the absence of God.

02:50:54.000 Absolutely.

02:50:54.000 Well, tell me what binds you to morality in the absence of God.

02:50:54.000 Oh.

02:50:57.000 Morality is subjective.

02:50:58.000 What are you talking about morality?

02:50:59.000 Like this is one thing.

02:51:00.000 Okay.

02:51:02.000 So you think that objectively it is not bad that an innocent person is killed.

02:51:07.000 Ah.

02:51:07.000 So you went to the, this is the gun person telling me this?

02:51:10.000 I'm the one that's defending the loss of innocent life this whole time.

02:51:13.000 That's the gun person.

02:51:14.000 Why, though?

02:51:14.000 Because in your subjective opinion, it's bad?

02:51:16.000 Yes, correct.

02:51:18.000 So if the society says, yeah, I do.

02:51:18.000 Interesting.

02:51:21.000 If the society says that murder is okay, that's fine, right?

02:51:26.000 If the majority of people say murder is okay subjectively, then murder is.

02:51:32.000 I never said that if a majority of people say something, it makes it okay.

02:51:36.000 I never said that.

02:51:36.000 In fact, I am right now debating.

02:51:38.000 It's subjectively okay to you.

02:51:39.000 It's subjectively okay to you, right?

02:51:40.000 I'm currently debating vegans on a gray area.

02:51:43.000 Of morality, which is, is it moral to eat animals?

02:51:46.000 And I say, kind of, not really, though.

02:51:49.000 I think it would be more moral to not eat animals.

02:51:51.000 But they're mad at me. 0.97

02:51:54.000 It's just always charming to me how atheists live in a world that was created by Christianity. 0.98

02:52:00.000 They live in a world, they take advantage of the fruit of a Christian world, but yet they have no respect for the pillars that establish that society. 0.96

02:52:08.000 We live in a society that follows Christian rules of conduct and morality. 0.79

02:52:12.000 We live in a society that follows Christian behaviors. 0.69

02:52:16.000 And this is just the classic. 1.00

02:52:17.000 This is typical Christian taking credit for everything. 1.00

02:52:21.000 We don't know that we shouldn't murder unless the Ten Commandments are great. 1.00

02:52:25.000 Isn't Somalia telling you that? 0.91

02:52:28.000 You think Somalia is high in murder because they haven't read the Ten Commandments? 1.00

02:52:33.000 Well, it's a good point. 1.00

02:52:35.000 That's part of it.

02:52:36.000 Okay.

02:52:37.000 Do you think it's moral to eat meat?

02:52:39.000 Of course.

02:52:40.000 Who says that?

02:52:42.000 Is it written in the Bible or is it the fact that the people during that time ate meat, so therefore it's okay?

02:52:47.000 Yeah, there's no prohibition on eating meat.

02:52:49.000 And actually, the Catholic Catechism is pretty specific about that.

02:52:52.000 Nick, you know what else there is not a prohibition on?

02:52:54.000 Slavery.

02:52:55.000 In fact, the Bible condoned it.

02:52:56.000 I believe the Catholic Catechism talks about slavery as well.

02:53:00.000 And you're against it?

02:53:02.000 Yeah, of course.

02:53:03.000 Well, I did see that the Pope apologized for it.

02:53:05.000 Do you know what the Catholic Catechism is?

02:53:07.000 Yeah, the split.

02:53:09.000 No, that's the schism.

02:53:11.000 The Catechism is the wisdom of the church, which is not subject.

02:53:18.000 To error, but again, an atheist wouldn't know something like that because they don't care to know. 0.68

02:53:24.000 A Catholic knows more about Catholicism than me. 0.99

02:53:27.000 Devin, your mic is doing that thing where it buzzes.

02:53:30.000 It's an intervention.

02:53:35.000 I think how everyone does it is he just leaves a call and then returns, and it should be fixed.

02:53:41.000 That's what we're doing.

02:53:42.000 While he fixes that, I will be reading some super chat.

02:53:44.000 Tarak Hilson, 500 knock.

02:53:47.000 Jesus is the sun.

02:53:48.000 12 disciples is the 12 months of the year.

02:53:51.000 The sun is born in the month of Virgo every year.

02:53:54.000 It's an atro calendar.

02:53:56.000 Jesus is also the symbol of the third eye, Kundalini, the pineal gland.

02:54:02.000 I don't know what that means, Nick.

02:54:03.000 I don't know if you know what it refers to.

02:54:06.000 Can you repeat that?

02:54:07.000 I was looking through the live chat.

02:54:08.000 So he was saying Jesus is the sun.

02:54:10.000 12, I suppose, is the 12 months of the year.

02:54:14.000 The sun is born in the month of Virgo every year.

02:54:18.000 It's an atro calendar.

02:54:19.000 Jesus is also the symbol of the third eye, condolee, parenthesis, the pineal gland.

02:54:25.000 Yeah, that's just goofy.

02:54:27.000 That's just goofy.

02:54:28.000 I mean, to account for the Holy Trinity and the 12 disciples, and one of them was a traitor, and the denials.

02:54:35.000 I mean, the.

02:54:36.000 You hear this all the time from pagans.

02:54:37.000 Pagans try to say, oh, you know, Jesus was like this pagan.

02:54:40.000 Jesus was like this tradition.

02:54:42.000 There is no pagan that is comparable to Jesus Christ, anything in the New Testament. 0.99

02:54:48.000 It just simply isn't. 1.00

02:54:50.000 All right.

02:54:51.000 And George Henry sends us 50 bucks.

02:54:53.000 Thank you for your donation.

02:54:55.000 Are you back, A.I.U.?

02:54:56.000 I am back, yeah.

02:54:58.000 Now, one thing about the question that Nick asked you, I'm actually wondering so do you consider that all of our moral preferences have been caused by evolution, that we are animal and that what we like and don't like? Is caused by evolution?

02:55:13.000 No.

02:55:14.000 I've always been fascinated.

02:55:15.000 I think there's a total disconnect there.

02:55:17.000 What works evolutionarily doesn't make it right or morally correct.

02:55:21.000 Well, we just use science.

02:55:23.000 We have to science it out.

02:55:25.000 It's messy.

02:55:26.000 It does change.

02:55:27.000 It's empiricism to find an objective morality. 0.96

02:55:30.000 Well, can't you, like, Nick, can't you, like, raping someone bad, killing someone bad, hugging someone and saying, hey, how are you doing? 0.98

02:55:41.000 Like, good. 1.00

02:55:42.000 Why?

02:55:42.000 According to whom?

02:55:43.000 Because people are, you know, screaming and it's terror and it's not nice.

02:55:48.000 Why?

02:55:49.000 It's emblematic.

02:55:50.000 This guy, he doesn't think in the present moment for himself.

02:55:52.000 He relies on others to tell him what to think.

02:55:54.000 So he can't assess each issue as it comes along.

02:55:58.000 You're very sad.

02:55:59.000 How about empathy?

02:56:00.000 How about empathy?

02:56:02.000 Your whole brand is atheism is unstoppable.

02:56:04.000 And here I am just stopping every argument.

02:56:06.000 So you have to resort to.

02:56:07.000 Hey, Nick, Nick.

02:56:08.000 How about this?

02:56:09.000 How about empathy?

02:56:10.000 How about empathy?

02:56:13.000 I don't want someone to punch me in the face.

02:56:15.000 So, punching someone in the face randomly is probably a bad idea.

02:56:21.000 Empathy is going to be the sole decider. 0.86

02:56:24.000 I don't want to be robbed.

02:56:25.000 I don't want to be robbed.

02:56:26.000 So, robbing someone is probably immoral because I'm doing something that people would not want.

02:56:33.000 Yes.

02:56:34.000 That's just simply not.

02:56:35.000 It's the golden rule.

02:56:36.000 It has been. 1.00

02:56:38.000 Everybody uses it in every culture around this planet, but the Christians take credit for it. 1.00

02:56:41.000 No, but why should we use. 0.99

02:56:44.000 Why should I use empathy?

02:56:45.000 Why should I use empathy?

02:56:47.000 I mean, what's.

02:56:47.000 Well, you have none.

02:56:48.000 That's your gun stance.

02:56:49.000 What is this?

02:56:50.000 This is really just sad.

02:56:51.000 This is really just some fedora here.

02:56:53.000 Nick, did you know what happened to you?

02:56:56.000 Well, no, but here, I'll explain.

02:56:59.000 I'll explain.

02:57:00.000 You're now going to introduce, oh, well, because Nick doesn't want to abridge the rights of 300 million sovereign people, that means he has no empathy for the people that died.

02:57:09.000 Unlike me, I'm the most virtuous person in the world.

02:57:12.000 I'm the only person that cares about people who die. 0.99

02:57:14.000 That's why I'm in favor of gun control. 0.99

02:57:16.000 You're a virtue signaling fag, just like all the other SJWs. 0.99

02:57:19.000 It's the same. 1.00

02:57:20.000 You're all the same.

02:57:21.000 Everybody sees it.

02:57:22.000 Everybody knows it.

02:57:24.000 Totally.

02:57:24.000 You're just a little bit more honest than that, but you're all the same.

02:57:28.000 And to get to the point of empathy, there is nothing that binds me to empathy as objectively moral.

02:57:33.000 I could say that my morality is Nietzsche's master morality.

02:57:40.000 What I'm able to exercise my will to power to the fullest extent, that's my morality.

02:57:45.000 Who are you to say otherwise?

02:57:46.000 Who are you to say that?

02:57:47.000 Do you have one original thought?

02:57:48.000 Nick, give me one original thought that is yours, not anybody else's, not somebody from 100 years ago.

02:57:52.000 You're trolling the epic style, big guy.

02:57:54.000 I referenced Nietzsche, and you're really thrilling.

02:57:56.000 Little guy, that's all you do.

02:57:58.000 Oh, we're going to do that now? 1.00

02:57:58.000 You're a fucking. 1.00

02:58:01.000 I can tell that left wing insult really hurt you. 1.00

02:58:04.000 I can tell that left wing insult really hurt you, Eggman, Egghead. 0.55

02:58:07.000 I could tell it really bruised your ego there because you finally met someone smarter than you, and I'm younger than you, which is unfortunate for atheists. 0.52

02:58:14.000 Go ahead, man. 1.00

02:58:15.000 Wait, wait.

02:58:17.000 In the subject of morality, would you say, Nick, that it's moral to step on someone's shoe?

02:58:25.000 Like you see him in the mall?

02:58:26.000 No, I would say that's immoral.

02:58:29.000 Is that in the Bible?

02:58:31.000 Well, the Bible says that you shouldn't be.

02:58:33.000 The Bible says that you should follow the golden rule.

02:58:35.000 But the difference is that atheists say. 0.96

02:58:38.000 No, no, no.

02:58:39.000 Listen, listen, Andy.

02:58:40.000 Here's the difference.

02:58:42.000 Andy, here's the difference.

02:58:44.000 We say the golden rule is our standard of conduct because God incarnate said it was, because the authority is God.

02:58:52.000 You are saying we should use empathy as our standard of morality because I think that's the right thing to do.

02:58:59.000 But you have to.

02:59:00.000 That's your daddy.

02:59:01.000 That's your dad.

02:59:02.000 I don't need God to tell me.

02:59:05.000 To be moral, I want to be a good person, so I go moral.

02:59:10.000 What is good?

02:59:11.000 What is good?

02:59:13.000 Andy's representing independent thought.

02:59:14.000 And Andy could answer the question, What is good?

02:59:16.000 Because Andy can think for himself.

02:59:17.000 What is good?

02:59:18.000 We are all, but, but, Devin, we're all just neurons firing.

02:59:22.000 We're all carbon.

02:59:23.000 We're all just stardust.

02:59:24.000 Who really cares what happens on this planet?

02:59:27.000 I have empathy.

02:59:28.000 I have empathy.

02:59:29.000 Yeah, but why?

02:59:30.000 But why?

02:59:31.000 It doesn't matter. 0.88

02:59:32.000 You need someone to tell you to feel bad if you kill someone.

02:59:37.000 I don't kill people because I know it's bad.

02:59:40.000 I'm not saying I'm not.

02:59:40.000 We need it.

02:59:41.000 No, no, no, no.

02:59:42.000 Listen, I am perfectly capable of setting up a standard for what I think is okay and what I think is not okay. 0.87

02:59:50.000 But what we cannot do is say that we objectively can discern what is right because, at the end of the day, what a Christian is is a realist.

02:59:59.000 We believe that there is this world and we inhabit it and we separately perceive it.

03:00:04.000 And we understand that there are things in this objective world that we're all observing that are correct, that are.

03:00:11.000 Morally right and things that are morally wrong.

03:00:14.000 And it doesn't matter what we think about it, but this is the way it's supposed to be.

03:00:18.000 This is the way it's not supposed to be.

03:00:20.000 You, on the other hand, believe that, well, there is no objective right.

03:00:23.000 There is no objective wrong.

03:00:25.000 There are only subjective.

03:00:26.000 Well, we think it's a good idea that we should follow this course.

03:00:30.000 We are comfortable with it.

03:00:31.000 We think it's okay.

03:00:32.000 But there's nothing external which says that this is the way it is in reality.

03:00:36.000 Okay, that's what you think.

03:00:38.000 However, let's take people who are supposed to be following the golden rule the most. 1.00

03:00:44.000 Priests who were caught fucking raping kids. 1.00

03:00:47.000 I'm an atheist. 1.00

03:00:48.000 I've never raped a child before. 0.80

03:00:51.000 I didn't know how to tell them to not do it, and they followed the book and became priests, the leaders, the people who had the voice for religion and still did immoral things when they should know it. 0.97

03:01:04.000 The golden rule.

03:01:05.000 Yeah, I know you think this is a big checkmate, but we've actually been answering this question for about 2,000 years.

03:01:11.000 Man is fallen.

03:01:12.000 The whole premise of Christianity is that man has with him. 0.71

03:01:16.000 Original sin and man is a sinner, he will always be a sinner until the day he dies.

03:01:20.000 The only person that didn't sin was Jesus Christ.

03:01:22.000 And so it's readily, we are readily accommodated by the fact that the Vatican has always been corrupt.

03:01:29.000 The Vatican has always had religious people that have gone against the word of God.

03:01:32.000 That's the nature of mankind. 0.94

03:01:34.000 The difference is, however, we are able to say when the priest was raping a child, that was wrong.

03:01:41.000 That person will be punished in the next life.

03:01:44.000 You're acting virtuous.

03:01:49.000 The most you can say.

03:01:50.000 Here's what I mean by that.

03:01:51.000 The most you can say is.

03:01:53.000 To me, that is wrong.

03:01:54.000 That is wrong to me.

03:01:56.000 That is wrong in my opinion.

03:01:57.000 But I have no authority to say that's objectively wrong.

03:02:00.000 All I have is that's probably something that I think is, and you can't even say what is right, what is wrong.

03:02:05.000 We're all just neurons.

03:02:07.000 We're all just these deterministic, fleshy machines.

03:02:09.000 Who can say what's right or wrong?

03:02:11.000 We're all just slaves to our biology.

03:02:14.000 Because part of our.

03:02:17.000 Part of how we think is with empathy.

03:02:21.000 So I know you're saying, oh, you can't use empathy.

03:02:23.000 Yes, you can use empathy because if I'm watching a.

03:02:27.000 Let's say a horror movie, and some dude's hit with a hammer. 0.90

03:02:30.000 We'll go back to the hammer in the head.

03:02:32.000 I go, oof, because you empathize with that pain.

03:02:34.000 And you go, oh. 1.00

03:02:35.000 So if you were to grab a hammer and smash someone in the head, before you do it, if you're not a fucking psychopath, you can go, smashing this guy in the head is going to end his life. 1.00

03:02:46.000 And if this were me being hit with a hammer, I would be angry, want to murder him, and I'd be upset that I'm going to die. 1.00

03:02:54.000 I'm going to miss my family, blah, blah, blah. 0.88

03:02:55.000 All the neurons kick in, and you get fear and sadness.

03:02:59.000 So, people who are insane, like serial killers, don't have that part in them and they want to thirst for blood.

03:03:08.000 But me, as a regular person, I don't thirst for blood.

03:03:12.000 Therefore, I'm not going to hit someone with a hammer because that's wrong.

03:03:16.000 Andy, I'd like to encourage you to think about what Nick is really stating and admit it or don't admit it.

03:03:24.000 But if you yell at him back, you cannot make it happen that you're not yelling, Nick, by the way.

03:03:29.000 I know, I know.

03:03:30.000 I'm not criticizing the fact that you're yelling.

03:03:31.000 I'm saying, If you're going to give an oppositional answer to Nick, make sure you actually disagree with him because Nick is saying you only have subjective standards for your morality.

03:03:43.000 Are you able to say, JF, that I disagree with this?

03:03:47.000 Okay, so I see what you're saying.

03:03:48.000 So since they're in a group, they all follow the same morality, whereas me being an atheist, I might have a different path to morality than.

03:03:59.000 No, no, no, no.

03:04:01.000 Don't bring it on another ground.

03:04:03.000 Just think about this phrase, okay?

03:04:05.000 Your beliefs about morality, Andy, are all subjective and all emerge from your brain, and there is no basis outside of your brain to determine that X is good or X is bad.

03:04:17.000 Do you agree with this statement?

03:04:18.000 Fine, yes.

03:04:19.000 However, I will say from my perspective, if someone that I knew were to grab a hammer, I would think and hit someone, I would think they were a bad person.

03:04:32.000 And I guess that's subjective to me.

03:04:34.000 He's not denying that.

03:04:36.000 He knows that you're a good person in some ways, and that good person will sometimes align with Catholicism 100%.

03:04:45.000 Like, you don't like murder, and Catholics don't like murder.

03:04:48.000 But he's saying.

03:04:49.000 Can't we all, like, with the whole golden rule thing, can't we, like, for example, just remove all religions and atheism, any belief system?

03:05:00.000 And all.

03:05:01.000 No, atheism is not a belief system.

03:05:04.000 Listen.

03:05:05.000 Here's the problem.

03:05:06.000 Here's the problem.

03:05:06.000 At the end of the day, there is no.

03:05:09.000 There is no genesis of right and wrong.

03:05:12.000 There is no way that any, it has been attempted many times, it has been failed every time.

03:05:17.000 There is no way to justify ethics and morality on a secular basis.

03:05:22.000 There simply isn't.

03:05:24.000 And that's because the atheist worldview has it.

03:05:27.000 I get your point.

03:05:28.000 I get your point.

03:05:29.000 And yeah, okay. 0.98

03:05:31.000 So, like, if we were all in caveman days and raping and murdering and all that bullshit, God's the one, you're saying, like, God and religion was the one that created the rule set for us to live like good people. 0.98

03:05:45.000 Okay. 0.99

03:05:45.000 Right. 0.99

03:05:46.000 I mean, we had.

03:05:46.000 Right.

03:05:49.000 And if religion did that, which. 0.52

03:05:52.000 I could, awesome, amazing.

03:05:55.000 However, I'm not going to believe in something I don't believe in just because something good came from it.

03:06:05.000 Okay, but that's not why we're arguing that.

03:06:07.000 I'm saying that is, I'm saying because, you know, he's trying, atheism is unstoppable, is trying to tell me, well, your worldview conflicts with your political beliefs.

03:06:16.000 And I'm saying this whole conversation has been about right and wrong.

03:06:19.000 This whole conversation has been about people are dying, that's bad.

03:06:23.000 That's wrong.

03:06:24.000 And I'm saying that it's just very curious to me how political people can talk about the basis of right and wrong when there is no, when their worldview, and they like to dress it up like, you know, atheism is about, you know, oh, science and the advancements of technology, the wonders of space, when in actuality, the atheist worldview is very cold.

03:06:43.000 It's very hollow.

03:06:44.000 It has that we are, we're just neurons firing.

03:06:48.000 And therefore, but therefore, it really doesn't matter.

03:06:52.000 Why should we even care what happens? 0.97

03:06:54.000 Why wouldn't we all just kill ourselves at the end of the day?

03:06:56.000 I like making people happy.

03:06:58.000 At the end of the day, people are not happy.

03:07:00.000 People are not happy. 1.00

03:07:01.000 Fuck, okay, the people in the fucking chat, if you can't take my opinion and you're like, oh my god, go to a circle jerk fucking goddamn live show, you fucking dumb fucking retards. 1.00

03:07:15.000 Goddamn faggots. 1.00

03:07:16.000 Faggots. 1.00

03:07:17.000 Dumb faggots. 1.00

03:07:18.000 Like, oh my god, Andy, stop. 1.00

03:07:21.000 I can't disagree with Nick.

03:07:23.000 I like Nick.

03:07:24.000 That's why I invited him to the show.

03:07:25.000 I like Andy.

03:07:26.000 I like AIU.

03:07:27.000 That's why I thought they would have an interesting conversation.

03:07:30.000 And in my opinion, this is one of the best shows.

03:07:32.000 That we've had in a while, at least most energy I've seen in a while. 1.00

03:07:36.000 So either enjoy it or go fuck your mothers. 1.00

03:07:40.000 High five, guys. 1.00

03:07:41.000 We did it.

03:07:42.000 There you go.

03:07:42.000 Yeah.

03:07:43.000 Oh my God.

03:07:44.000 How dare you have a different opinion from what all the alt right believes? 1.00

03:07:50.000 Suck it. 1.00

03:07:51.000 I've told you a million times I'm not alt right. 1.00

03:07:55.000 It's either you take it or how do you go?

03:07:57.000 Oh my God.

03:07:58.000 Stop it, Addy. 1.00

03:07:58.000 Addy, stop it. 1.00

03:07:59.000 Stop it. 1.00

03:07:59.000 Get a fucking life. 1.00

03:08:01.000 Fucking. 1.00

03:08:02.000 Addy, what percentage of your audience is religious? 1.00

03:08:05.000 Fucking probably like 75%. 0.99

03:08:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:08:08.000 Jesus. 1.00

03:08:09.000 Fucking hell. 1.00

03:08:10.000 You should see me. 1.00

03:08:12.000 They accuse me.

03:08:13.000 They say Jeff is always right in his debate.

03:08:15.000 Then I debate atheism, and everyone is like, Jeff lost.

03:08:19.000 Jeff lost.

03:08:20.000 Oh, God.

03:08:21.000 And I want to say, I'm sorry to the audience.

03:08:23.000 I'm sorry.

03:08:24.000 I freaked out.

03:08:25.000 It's just upsetting me.

03:08:26.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

03:08:27.000 I'm an emotional fuck. 0.99

03:08:28.000 I know. 1.00

03:08:29.000 You shouldn't be sorry.

03:08:30.000 They love that you're going rough with them.

03:08:32.000 I know. 0.76

03:08:33.000 I have a mini question for Nick about rape.

03:08:36.000 What is your stance on the fact that if somebody rapes somebody, they should pay the father 50 shekels?

03:08:41.000 Well, that's Old Testament stuff.

03:08:44.000 That was all abrogated by Jesus.

03:08:47.000 We got rid of most of that.

03:08:49.000 Did Jesus speak on rape?

03:08:50.000 Is he on the record? 0.92

03:08:52.000 No, but he said essentially in the gospel, and again, I'm not a biblical expert, but I do remember in the Bible, it says, he says, this is the new rules now.

03:09:01.000 The new rules are it's about loving your neighbor, it's about the golden rule, it's about the commandments, it's about all this stuff.

03:09:08.000 And so that's why, for example, they did away with the sacrifices, they did away with the circumcision, they did away with some of these things.

03:09:16.000 So that's, I don't think any. 1.00

03:09:17.000 Stoning people, all that. 1.00

03:09:18.000 Yeah, that stuff.

03:09:20.000 And so, when a moral situation arises in your life, do you refer back to the book?

03:09:27.000 Do you ask other people how you should think about these things?

03:09:29.000 Or do you ever consider it yourself and make your own determination? 0.94

03:09:32.000 Well, I think if you're under the impression that God is real and God has laid out what is moral and what isn't, I think it would kind of be stupid to say, well, I know better than the church, right?

03:09:44.000 I mean, certainly I grapple with the church's teachings. 0.81

03:09:46.000 That's part of faith.

03:09:47.000 Faith is not, well, we think God exists.

03:09:49.000 Faith is that we're pretty certain he exists.

03:09:52.000 Sometimes we don't understand the rules he lays out.

03:09:55.000 We have to have faith that through our logical understanding that God is real, and therefore what he says is the truth, that we have to follow it.

03:10:00.000 And so I grapple with it at times.

03:10:02.000 Sometimes I don't understand the justification for it, and it's a challenge.

03:10:07.000 But I. Let's say there's an infinite amount of things that the church has no opinion on.

03:10:11.000 Like, let's say something like you have kids.

03:10:14.000 At what age should your kid be allowed on the internet?

03:10:16.000 You know, that's up in the air.

03:10:18.000 Nobody really knows.

03:10:19.000 That's not really a moral question, is it?

03:10:20.000 That's kind of just.

03:10:21.000 I think it is.

03:10:24.000 I think it is.

03:10:26.000 Sure.

03:10:26.000 Give them access to the entire world and all the information out there.

03:10:30.000 I think, well, I mean, it's not the most serious moral question, but I think it is.

03:10:33.000 That's not really a moral question.

03:10:35.000 That's showing a lot.

03:10:35.000 I mean, what would be immoral about someone?

03:10:38.000 The only thing you could think about would be pornography.

03:10:40.000 Are you restricting their rights?

03:10:41.000 You're all about restricting their rights.

03:10:42.000 Does a child have a right to the internet?

03:10:44.000 Oh, my God.

03:10:46.000 Do you really think this is a sensible objection, or is this just.

03:10:51.000 You're buried in the minutiae.

03:10:52.000 I don't care about that issue.

03:10:53.000 Children who are not developed and are there to be a child.

03:10:55.000 I don't care about the issue.

03:10:57.000 I don't care about the issue, it says again.

03:10:59.000 I'm asking you if an issue came up that the church has no bearing on, hasn't spoken on this, how are you to make a determination on that?

03:11:06.000 I think the church has basically spoken on all the important matters, right?

03:11:09.000 I mean, the church is, you look at the Catholic Catechism, it's pretty thorough as to.

03:11:15.000 Oh, really?

03:11:16.000 Where's the stand on trans people? 1.00

03:11:18.000 Pretty sure we're against that. 1.00

03:11:19.000 Pretty sure we're against those disordered tendencies.

03:11:23.000 That's the thing. 1.00

03:11:24.000 The catechism doesn't address trans, it addresses homosexuals. 1.00

03:11:27.000 And in that case, We say that these variants are disordered. 0.97

03:11:32.000 What if a trans person or homosexual was a Catholic? 0.91

03:11:35.000 Does that happen or happen? 0.98

03:11:36.000 Well, yeah, that's the thing.

03:11:38.000 In the catechism, it made it clear.

03:11:40.000 There's writings on this in the 80s that made this clear that homosexuality is not a sin.

03:11:46.000 To have dysmorphia, to have, oh, I think I'm a woman, but I'm a man.

03:11:51.000 To have certain preferences, like, I want to have sex with this person, that is not a sin.

03:11:56.000 To say, I want to become a woman, that is not a sin.

03:12:00.000 To act on those disordered tendencies to choose, that is a sin. 0.75

03:12:04.000 So, there are plenty of homosexual Catholics who they're called to live chaste lives or chaste lives. 0.87

03:12:10.000 So, being a pedophile but not acting on it is morally neutral? 0.97

03:12:17.000 Well, I mean, technically, we have it that pedophilia is a perverted and a disordered tendency, but it's not a sin and it's not enough to go to hell.

03:12:25.000 Yeah, probably.

03:12:27.000 I think it's a perverted thing.

03:12:28.000 If you were to even think about that, I think you should probably face a penalty.

03:12:32.000 That's just my opinion, but.

03:12:33.000 I guess the, I haven't checked what the church is, I'm pretty sure they're against pedophilia, but that's a nice loaded question.

03:12:39.000 If they were against it, wouldn't they get rid of their priests instead of just shuffling them around?

03:12:43.000 But actually, if you look at the Catholic sex scandal, well, it's hilarious that you bring it up because you haven't looked at the facts, which would have it that the Catholic, that no, that the Catholic sex scandal actually had, in terms of global institutions, we have a lower rate of abuse than standard average institutions. 0.96

03:12:43.000 That's hilarious. 0.96

03:13:00.000 So they're raping kids too. 1.00

03:13:01.000 So look over there. 1.00

03:13:02.000 That's hilarious.

03:13:03.000 Do you understand the scope of, Of the Catholic Church, the scope and size of it in terms of its intercontinental, it's massive.

03:13:09.000 And so you have a couple of cases of impropriety, and people say, well, you know, then it's certainly shamable.

03:13:16.000 What's that?

03:13:17.000 You don't think that's disproportionate statistically?

03:13:19.000 Statistically, and I know you haven't looked at the facts because you would find this statistically, it's not disproportionate.

03:13:25.000 It's actually lower than proportionate for the size and scope of the church.

03:13:28.000 But this is what you have, even though we've already answered the question that those people are sinners, those people we have a problem with, you know, but we have to address it head on.

03:13:38.000 There it is.

03:13:39.000 You deluded yourself right out of that one.

03:13:40.000 Good job.

03:13:41.000 Yeah, with the facts, right?

03:13:41.000 Okay.

03:13:43.000 Talk about not thinking for yourself.

03:13:45.000 I know you have a lot of.

03:13:46.000 Cheap platitudes that you get.

03:13:47.000 Oh, but sex scandal, but this and that.

03:13:49.000 But you look at the facts, you look at the stats, it's just not there.

03:13:52.000 Keep smiling, man.

03:13:53.000 Keep that plastic smile.

03:13:54.000 I love winning.

03:13:55.000 I love to win.

03:13:56.000 You convinced yourself.

03:13:57.000 Good job.

03:13:58.000 I convinced everyone watching.

03:13:59.000 From Eric Hoda, $5.

03:14:02.000 Rape creates division in us territorial creatures, making prehistoric tribes weak.

03:14:11.000 Boom, morality is born, Nick.

03:14:14.000 And he also says, another five tribal men discovered that people killing one another creates disorder.

03:14:20.000 Which makes a tribe weak, boom.

03:14:23.000 So he's saying you didn't need God to say, don't rape and murder.

03:14:28.000 They realized, yo, if we murder or rape anyone, people get a little bit upset. 0.94

03:14:33.000 It's amazing that non Christian cultures have a very similar code of morality. 0.94

03:14:37.000 It's like, is that a coincidence?

03:14:39.000 Not really, because here's the thing.

03:14:41.000 I mean, yeah, I agree with what was said.

03:14:43.000 Evolutionarily, it probably would have been a benefit that people weren't raping or killing their own people.

03:14:47.000 However, where do you assess that the standard for morality to determine objective morality?

03:14:54.000 Is what is, in terms of consequentialism, what is best for the survival of a tribe.

03:14:59.000 I think people want to say, oh, well, this code would work towards this end.

03:15:03.000 In no way, shape, or form does that say that that end is the proper moral end. 0.55

03:15:09.000 I mean, for example, would beating the shit out of your kid until he's bloodied and all the other kind of stuff, maybe that produces really strong men. 0.70

03:15:16.000 Would we say that's a moral thing? 0.97

03:15:18.000 Probably not.

03:15:19.000 So that's where the, you know, even though, and I understand that argument, I think it's a good argument, but it doesn't really approach the contention.

03:15:29.000 How about an argument?

03:15:32.000 If we're going to talk about science, endorphins is what makes us happy, right? 1.00

03:15:37.000 Or it might be more retarded, right? 0.99

03:15:40.000 If you do things that make people around you have more, you know, like happiness, and that in turn makes you happy, wouldn't that just be beneficial for the species? 0.99

03:15:58.000 Sure.

03:15:58.000 I think it could be beneficial.

03:16:00.000 So you don't need a book for that because that's.

03:16:02.000 But again, that's a big difference from, you know, I could say, well, if we act in this way, we would produce a lot of hammers. 1.00

03:16:11.000 If we act in this way, you know, this group of the elderly would never have to work again. 0.99

03:16:16.000 We can talk about codes of conduct and behavior that are directed towards ends that are very efficient. 0.99

03:16:22.000 And so, you know, we could probably look at Denmark, for example, and say the kind of way people behave in Denmark makes people happy because people in Denmark are some of the happiest in the world.

03:16:33.000 But what we couldn't say.

03:16:34.000 Is that subjectively moral behavior?

03:16:37.000 And is happiness the thing that we strive for?

03:16:39.000 I think we strive for happiness in the society, and it's kind of, you know, we're the most materially rich nation in the world.

03:16:45.000 We're one of the most peaceful nations in the world compared to how it used to be in this country or in countries south of us.

03:16:51.000 And yet people are killing themselves.

03:16:53.000 People are doping themselves up on drugs.

03:16:55.000 Oh, whoa.

03:16:56.000 Whoa, whoa.

03:16:57.000 All right.

03:16:59.000 Happiness is a meme.

03:17:00.000 Yeah, sure, sure.

03:17:01.000 All right.

03:17:01.000 So it's subjective.

03:17:02.000 I get it.

03:17:03.000 It's subjective, sure.

03:17:04.000 What if the Bible has a rule? 0.99

03:17:09.000 That's just garbage that you're like, that's going to make me really unhappy. 1.00

03:17:13.000 So why would I follow that shit? 1.00

03:17:16.000 Happens all the time. 1.00

03:17:17.000 Happens all.

03:17:18.000 For example, the Catholic Church says you can't use contraception.

03:17:22.000 You can't have sex out of marriage.

03:17:24.000 And what I discovered very recently to my detriment now I can't even plead the fifth on this one.

03:17:30.000 I can't even plead ignorance on this one.

03:17:32.000 The Catholic Church's teaching on sexuality is that all sex acts, even if they're within marriage, have to be geared towards procreative in nature.

03:17:44.000 So if you're like, I don't know, if you want to.

03:17:47.000 Kiss for a little while longer.

03:17:49.000 If you want to, like, I don't know, you want to introduce something else into the equation, you want to spice it up a little bit, you can't do that. 0.91

03:17:56.000 It's immoral because they say all sex has to be directed towards a procreative end.

03:18:01.000 And if it means that, you can't do it.

03:18:04.000 Time to quit.

03:18:06.000 I know, I don't like that.

03:18:07.000 I don't like that, but we got to do it.

03:18:09.000 But we have to do it.

03:18:10.000 Really?

03:18:11.000 You're going to let a book that was written by some dude who heard God or something. 1.00

03:18:19.000 I can't jerk off, I guess, because God's going to fucking throw lightning on me or whatever, or put me in hell. 0.99

03:18:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:18:25.000 What if you fucking went to confession right after? 1.00

03:18:28.000 You're like, yo, I just jerked off. 1.00

03:18:30.000 I tried. 0.97

03:18:30.000 Sorry. 0.97

03:18:31.000 We tried.

03:18:32.000 Look, I wish it would.

03:18:33.000 I've asked my Catholic friends this.

03:18:35.000 I said, look, what if we went to confession right after? 0.99

03:18:37.000 You can't do it that way.

03:18:40.000 You have to really be.

03:18:42.000 You have to really ask for forgiveness and strive to do better.

03:18:46.000 So, tough.

03:18:48.000 It's tough out there for a Catholic, but that's the thing.

03:18:51.000 We get to meet God.

03:18:52.000 We get to go to heaven.

03:18:53.000 Eternity is a lot longer than a lifetime.

03:18:55.000 So I'm making a trade off.

03:18:57.000 It's like investing in a Roth IRA, essentially.

03:19:00.000 It's like we compromise on sex for a little while and then we get to create planets and stuff.

03:19:06.000 I don't know how it works when we're in the end, when we're in the final battle of Bikini Bottom and we get to roll around as SpongeBob in the theme park and whatever it is.

03:19:16.000 We're going to have fun.

03:19:18.000 I don't know.

03:19:19.000 I'm just saying, hypothetically, whatever it is, we're going to have a great time.

03:19:23.000 I stand with Nick, remove the condom, and go straight for the egg. 0.87

03:19:29.000 But JF, aren't you atheist too?

03:19:33.000 I'm atheist, but somehow I like the way Nick thinks about the world.

03:19:37.000 I like the way he's thinking about the world too.

03:19:39.000 I'm very much enjoying this conversation.

03:19:41.000 But it's more than just like King.

03:19:42.000 I think he has a good insight into the difference between objective reality and the separation between objective reality and objective morality.

03:19:53.000 I think he has a good understanding of the division between the two.

03:19:57.000 That many atheists don't have. 0.99

03:20:00.000 There is no objective morality. 0.99

03:20:01.000 What's separation?

03:20:02.000 It doesn't exist.

03:20:04.000 It's fanciful.

03:20:06.000 It doesn't even work in his worldview.

03:20:08.000 I mean, you could pin him on so many gray area issues when it comes to morality.

03:20:13.000 Such as?

03:20:15.000 Such as, I mean, there's tons of them.

03:20:17.000 I mean, veganism.

03:20:18.000 Name one.

03:20:19.000 Veganism.

03:20:22.000 I mean, what about it? 0.97

03:20:22.000 What about it? 0.97

03:20:24.000 I mean, we can eat meat.

03:20:25.000 The only time we can't eat meat is Fridays, big guy.

03:20:28.000 Lenten Fridays.

03:20:31.000 It's such a pointless encounter because everything you say to this guy, he's just going to say, because God, because God, because God said so.

03:20:37.000 It's just, it's simple.

03:20:40.000 It's not interesting in any way.

03:20:40.000 It's basic.

03:20:42.000 Well, I'm not striving for that.

03:20:43.000 This is why I don't talk about atheism anymore.

03:20:44.000 Honestly, it's so, I just zone out.

03:20:47.000 The guy is so happy with himself.

03:20:48.000 It's like, wow.

03:20:49.000 Well, I think, Nick, I get your points and all that stuff because I was really religious until I was 18, right?

03:20:56.000 So I understand where you're coming from on a lot of this.

03:21:01.000 But for me, like what just AIU just said, you say because God, because God, you know, belief, faith, whatever. 0.99

03:21:09.000 And then we say because science, and you go, oh my God, fucking science. 0.96

03:21:13.000 But at least science has, like, because God ends there, and it's just faith, ends there. 0.99

03:21:19.000 Because science, you go, this happens because this law of physics does this, does this.

03:21:26.000 Like, there's an actual, or like evolution, for example.

03:21:30.000 We could see that this thing evolves here because there's, you know, You know, bones or whatever, or fossils, so we could see we have a visible proof of it. 0.99

03:21:40.000 But with God, you just go, There was a book, and I hope that it's not a fucking bullshit book. 0.97

03:21:49.000 Yeah, well, to address that on the whole faith question, well, we believe the book. 0.98

03:21:55.000 What happened when I bring up Aquinas, the reason I bring up Aquinas is because what he sought out to do and did effectively is create a, and this is what he, this is what his mission in life was to come up with a way.

03:22:07.000 To demonstrate, to metaphysically demonstrate that God had to be real.

03:22:13.000 Not using the Bible, not using the gospel, not using any account of Jesus Christ's life, but to say if we can understand certain propositions that have to be true, then we can reason our way into knowing that God is real.

03:22:28.000 So I didn't come over to Christianity so much because I said, well, I believe Jesus Christ lived and rose from the dead, therefore he's God, and therefore his church is without error.

03:22:38.000 I said, let's read Thomas Aquinas.

03:22:40.000 And I looked at the arguments.

03:22:42.000 They're indisputable.

03:22:43.000 They have to be true.

03:22:44.000 And then when you understand that God can be justified both from a reasonable point of view, but also by understanding that he sent his son and, you know, rose from the dead and all of that, then that's also true.

03:22:53.000 That's the first point.

03:22:55.000 On the second point, when you say because God versus because science, science is very limited in terms of its explanatory power.

03:23:02.000 The scientific worldview is one that is material, is one that is mechanical.

03:23:07.000 Human consciousness, hard to explain with science.

03:23:11.000 You know, a lot of the inter.

03:23:13.000 Personal relations between people are very difficult to explain with science.

03:23:18.000 Science has its limits.

03:23:19.000 And I think human beings.

03:23:22.000 Consciousness is a gap in our knowledge?

03:23:22.000 Is there a gap?

03:23:24.000 I wonder what could explain it away.

03:23:26.000 That's a nice God of the gaps argument.

03:23:28.000 But the point being is you're trying to say that, well, God is your explanation for everything.

03:23:35.000 Well, the Christian worldview says that there are mysteries, there's things we don't know, but it also says that there are things that we can know.

03:23:41.000 What we can know, what we can.

03:23:44.000 What we can't figure out through reason is that God is real.

03:23:46.000 If God is real, we know that the explanation for these things are true.

03:23:50.000 So our worldview is complete.

03:23:52.000 Our worldview is totally holistic.

03:23:54.000 It makes sense.

03:23:55.000 Anyone can jump on.

03:23:57.000 Your worldview has real holes.

03:23:58.000 I'm not saying God explains the things science can't.

03:24:02.000 I'm not saying that.

03:24:03.000 I'm saying there are no gaps.

03:24:05.000 Our worldview is perfect.

03:24:06.000 It's in a ball that's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.

03:24:09.000 It's great.

03:24:10.000 Your worldview has holes.

03:24:12.000 Your worldview says, well, we can put it under a microscope, we could put it in a telescope.

03:24:16.000 We can see everything.

03:24:18.000 We can know everything.

03:24:19.000 But yet it can't.

03:24:20.000 The most fundamental questions, such as biogenesis, human consciousness, all kinds of things, it just simply will never have answers for.

03:24:27.000 And I don't know.

03:24:28.000 I guess you're taking it on faith that maybe one day it will, right?

03:24:32.000 Biogenesis will have answers for it.

03:24:35.000 I'm getting a book out very soon.

03:24:37.000 I'll read it, JF.

03:24:38.000 Somebody sent me.

03:24:38.000 I will.

03:24:40.000 It's like I'm in 2005. 0.74

03:24:41.000 This is the American one.

03:24:44.000 I'm talking about this.

03:24:46.000 By Ian Coyne.

03:24:48.000 Or Jerry Coyne.

03:24:49.000 Jerry Coyne.

03:24:52.000 But yeah, I believe I'm a believer.

03:24:56.000 Read Aquinas.

03:24:57.000 You gotta read Thomas Aquinas, fellas.

03:25:03.000 Well, I mean, look, I don't hate you.

03:25:09.000 I don't hate you either.

03:25:11.000 Andy, I love you because I'm a Christian.

03:25:13.000 We love everybody.

03:25:14.000 I love you just because I have my own free will.

03:25:18.000 Hey, good enough.

03:25:19.000 I like it.

03:25:20.000 I like it. 0.97

03:25:21.000 I've got to say, this was fucking an absolutely amazing show. 0.97

03:25:27.000 It's been fun. 0.99

03:25:28.000 I was like, fucking, that was just epic. 1.00

03:25:32.000 You guys are fucking great. 1.00

03:25:34.000 How many are you watching? 0.99

03:25:36.000 Yeah, you're right.

03:25:37.000 I'm in a sweat box over here.

03:25:38.000 I can't wait to get out.

03:25:39.000 But yeah.

03:25:41.000 It was interesting. 1.00

03:25:42.000 It was a clutch of fuck. 1.00

03:25:43.000 He's dying to get out of the cage. 1.00

03:25:46.000 Got some points across.

03:25:47.000 I mean, I'll probably never come back, but it was fun.

03:25:51.000 Really?

03:25:52.000 We want you back.

03:25:53.000 Yeah, what if I. You talked about veganism.

03:25:56.000 I'd like to hear your argument on veganism.

03:25:58.000 I'm chill.

03:25:58.000 It'd have to be internet, blood sports, reverse.

03:26:01.000 Here's the problem everyone goes.

03:26:03.000 Oh my God, it's just yelling.

03:26:05.000 No, I had a good time.

03:26:06.000 Yeah, I yelled at Nick for a second, but it's still chilling, whatever.

03:26:10.000 I guess.

03:26:11.000 Not really.

03:26:11.000 I mean, it just feels like a sermon at this point.

03:26:13.000 If he's talking about religion, I could watch late night television.

03:26:16.000 You started this.

03:26:18.000 That's true.

03:26:20.000 But yeah, the gun thing is.

03:26:23.000 The gun thing, we are entrenched in that.

03:26:25.000 And like I say, I've left America, so it's your problem.

03:26:28.000 Good luck to you guys.

03:26:29.000 Hope you don't die.

03:26:30.000 And somebody timestamped this, but let's see if Nick Fuentes makes it through this life without. 0.99

03:26:34.000 Killing himself or getting shot in some altercation with, I don't know.

03:26:38.000 Wait, did you recommend Count Dankula shoot the cops or were you against that? 0.56

03:26:42.000 We can't even end it on a good note.

03:26:42.000 Here we go.

03:26:44.000 We can't even end it on a friendly note.

03:26:46.000 Always got to have knives out, huh?

03:26:48.000 Even knives out, Nick, is willing to put it away.

03:26:51.000 Anyway, I'm a fan of your suit.

03:26:56.000 I recommend that JF shop at your tailor and wherever you're getting this from.

03:27:00.000 And thanks for having me on, Andy.

03:27:02.000 Yeah, man.

03:27:03.000 Thanks for being on.

03:27:04.000 I look forward to possibly doing a follow up video where you insult everyone.

03:27:09.000 On the panel, oh, dude, no, no, no, no.

03:27:12.000 I'm gonna move on with my life, okay?

03:27:13.000 Good, no more stuttering.org jokes.

03:27:18.000 Uh, I'm actually trying to buy that URL and we're gonna get that going.

03:27:21.000 Oh, my god, all right, man.

03:27:23.000 Well, thanks for being on the show, bud.

03:27:25.000 Later, peace.

03:27:27.000 And Nick, if you want to do, I mean, what do you say after what was that, three hours and 40 minutes?

03:27:35.000 Jesus, a lot of content.

03:27:37.000 I did my podcast today, I did my show, so that was two hours, and then I'd so it's been a busy day for me.

03:27:42.000 I played.

03:27:43.000 But it's all right.

03:27:44.000 I'm imbued with the spirit of the Lord and of the God Emperor of mankind.

03:27:49.000 So I got, unfortunately, it was just him.

03:27:53.000 It was just him, but I had God on my side.

03:27:56.000 I had the supreme creator and his Viker on earth, Trump.

03:28:02.000 So it was really unfair to begin with.

03:28:04.000 And I want to say to all of our audience don't miss it.

03:28:07.000 Tomorrow I will be on Nick's show.

03:28:09.000 That's right.

03:28:10.000 And I asked him, Nick, what are you willing to talk about?

03:28:14.000 And no joke, Nick in private sent me a DM. 0.97

03:28:17.000 And he said, fruits, how the fuck do they work? 0.98

03:28:21.000 I have to know. 0.99

03:28:22.000 I was eating banana the other day.

03:28:24.000 I said, where did this come from?

03:28:26.000 And not even like a gotcha, not even like God of the Gats, explain this banana.

03:28:31.000 Yeah, because if you're doing the banana argument of Rick Confort, it's old school.

03:28:37.000 I hope you're not thinking about that.

03:28:39.000 No, no, I just want to know because I know there's some evolutionary thing, but it's like, do animals eat it and then it drops the seeds and that's why it succeeds?

03:28:47.000 And I don't know.

03:28:48.000 But we'll have you on the show tomorrow.

03:28:49.000 Thanks for having me for this debate.

03:28:51.000 It was fun. 0.92

03:28:53.000 The knife returned for another explosive battle.

03:28:56.000 The knife fighting over guns.

03:28:57.000 Imagine that.

03:28:58.000 But thanks for having me.

03:28:59.000 Yeah, man.

03:29:00.000 Thanks for the cool, man.

03:29:02.000 Always a pleasure.

03:29:02.000 Follow me at Nick J. Fuencest on Twitter.

03:29:04.000 And we'll see you tomorrow on the show, JF.

03:29:07.000 But take it easy, both of you.

03:29:08.000 All right, man.

03:29:09.000 Peace.

03:29:09.000 All the links are down there, by the way.

03:29:12.000 I've linked everything there.

03:29:15.000 JF.

03:29:17.000 That was good to me. 0.99

03:29:18.000 I fucking was just deep into that, man. 0.99

03:29:21.000 Like, that was great. 0.99

03:29:22.000 And I got into it too.

03:29:24.000 And yeah, like, that was. 0.98

03:29:26.000 Fucking fantastic.

03:29:28.000 AIU, I mean, as much as look, the chat might not like everyone likes AIU, he's like, but he makes me, even if I disagree with him, he makes me laugh. 0.94

03:29:38.000 Nick, for example, too, I may disagree with him, but I'm entertained by his answers.

03:29:44.000 Like, here's the thing is, you don't have to always agree to be entertained. 0.97

03:29:49.000 Like, AIU says some shit where I would disagree, but just the way he said it was just fucking snarky and funny. 0.98

03:29:55.000 I don't know. 0.99

03:29:56.000 Maybe I'm different.

03:29:57.000 Maybe I'm able to be.

03:29:58.000 Entertained by people I disagree with as well.

03:30:01.000 But yeah, I mean, we saw a live version of what AIU does in his videos all the time.

03:30:07.000 It's the little snarky, somewhat snarky, but very intelligent approach to the problems.

03:30:13.000 And he laid out his beliefs, and I really respect his contribution today.

03:30:18.000 Yeah, that was fantastic.

03:30:20.000 Hey, I need to grab water.

03:30:21.000 I had a coughing fit.

03:30:22.000 I'm at the tail end of my cold, by the way.

03:30:25.000 All right.

03:30:26.000 It should be done by the next show, which is Thursday.

03:30:29.000 I'll put on the super chat window.

03:30:32.000 And Thursday, we will be talking about relationships.

03:30:36.000 We have the author of Smart and Sexy, Low IQ in Relationship, High IQ in Relationship. 0.96

03:30:41.000 And we also have a white nationalist from Canada who is going out with a black girlfriend. 0.99

03:30:48.000 I have questions ready, man. 0.90

03:30:50.000 When you told me that, I have questions ready.

03:30:52.000 So, do you call her Nick?

03:30:54.000 All right, I'll be careful.

03:30:54.000 No, I'm just kidding.

03:30:57.000 Does it lead to more heavy, like rough sex opportunities? 1.00

03:31:04.000 Like, instead of just calling her a bitch, you can call it. 1.00

03:31:08.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

03:31:09.000 That whole. 0.81

03:31:11.000 Puts a whole different spin when you're doing BDSM, when you have the whip.

03:31:15.000 Because it brings.

03:31:15.000 Okay, sorry.

03:31:16.000 Okay, I'm going to have a drink.

03:31:19.000 The whole history of slavery.

03:31:20.000 I'm going to have a drink and I have to take a piss.

03:31:23.000 That was a massively long show.

03:31:25.000 And I've been drinking lots of fluids.

03:31:26.000 So, yeah.

03:31:27.000 Do you see.

03:31:28.000 Nope.

03:31:29.000 Let me.

03:31:29.000 Hang on.

03:31:30.000 You should screen share for the super chats.

03:31:33.000 Yep.

03:31:33.000 Let me just.

03:31:33.000 Hang on.

03:31:34.000 I need a third screen now.

03:31:35.000 Oh my God. 0.99

03:31:36.000 With OBS, now I need a third goddamn screen. 0.98

03:31:38.000 I'm going to screen share. 0.98

03:31:42.000 I'll go there.

03:31:42.000 Do I have any porn in the tabs?

03:31:44.000 All right.

03:31:44.000 Nope.

03:31:46.000 I was just joking about that.

03:31:50.000 All right.

03:31:50.000 You see that?

03:31:52.000 Yep.

03:31:52.000 And then let me minimize this and put this.

03:31:57.000 Or do you need that?

03:32:00.000 Yeah, I do need that.

03:32:01.000 So I will be reading them.

03:32:03.000 Okay.

03:32:03.000 Now people will notice that in the upper tab, and he has a U. Porn tab open.

03:32:08.000 No, I don't use who uses you. 0.79

03:32:10.000 Porn, that's the worst one. 0.63

03:32:13.000 Okay, I've used the watch. 0.57

03:32:15.000 You're all right.

03:32:17.000 Pinky culture five dollar US, Devon Germany as rape fugis, Arc Enemy five dollar US.

03:32:25.000 Germany has the 15th highest rate of gun ownership in the world, higher than 160 other countries, many of which are far less safe.

03:32:34.000 Edmund Pluppy two dollar Australian.

03:32:36.000 AIU as emotions, emotions means guns are bad.

03:32:42.000 Revenge of the Dreamer.

03:32:44.000 We have Cops, AIU.

03:32:47.000 The game doesn't change, just the player, $5 US.

03:32:50.000 As AIU seen the reports in Munster, guns versus a truck of peace, it's your choice.

03:32:56.000 Red Feather, $2 US.

03:32:58.000 Devin said he's afraid for his girl to go out alone.

03:33:02.000 Recovery Anonymous, $5 US.

03:33:04.000 The police are minutes away when seconds count.

03:33:07.000 This is why people should conceal carry.

03:33:10.000 CCW holders are the most law abiding group in the US. 0.99

03:33:15.000 Scroogle, $5 US.

03:33:17.000 I would like to know the time in history before gun existed where you were safer than walking around the US with a pistol on you.

03:33:25.000 Eskits for 09, $10 US.

03:33:28.000 Guns are the great equalizer between everyone.

03:33:31.000 All right, I'm back.

03:33:33.000 All right, you can move to Galtz, Gooch. 0.53

03:33:36.000 All right, I'll try and pound.

03:33:38.000 Oh, guys, we were trying, it was hard to read.

03:33:43.000 There's a lot, man.

03:33:44.000 Thank you, everyone, for the massive, massive amount of support.

03:33:48.000 I saw a bunch of people arguing using super chats with the chat, actually.

03:33:52.000 It's pretty funny.

03:33:53.000 Scroggle, were we there?

03:33:55.000 Or Galtz.

03:33:56.000 Gooch, five bucks.

03:33:58.000 Yeah, you can't win a debate by just saying, by saying you're wrong.

03:34:02.000 It's so obvious. 0.98

03:34:04.000 Your shitty debating has set up sensible gun control back 20 years. 0.99

03:34:08.000 Congrats. 1.00

03:34:09.000 The vicious, $10.

03:34:11.000 We are in a country where a political party is trying to run a coup d'etat.

03:34:15.000 I don't know how to say that word.

03:34:17.000 The Second Amendment is more important now than when it was written. 0.76

03:34:21.000 There have been mass rapes in Germany, never in the U.S. White goy, $5. 0.97

03:34:27.000 If banning guns fixes the problem, then why is the UK now banning knives now? 0.98

03:34:32.000 Black State, 15 bucks. 1.00

03:34:35.000 Is the UK banning fucking knives? 1.00

03:34:37.000 Black State, 15 bucks. 1.00

03:34:38.000 AIU prefers safe tyranny over dangerous freedom.

03:34:42.000 To be free is to accept unnatural levels of danger.

03:34:46.000 Even the lion is prudish when fighting another lion because he is aware of the teeth he wields.

03:34:54.000 LM, $2. 0.98

03:34:56.000 Literally, no one cares if minorities kill each other. 0.98

03:34:58.000 Jesus Christ. 0.78

03:34:59.000 Christ.

03:35:00.000 Be right, $10.

03:35:01.000 Has race come up in this debate? 0.99

03:35:04.000 It's a single minority group that makes up 50% of gun violence.

03:35:08.000 Why should the majority in this country give up our rights because of the extreme violence in one group?

03:35:14.000 ABCDEF, $5.

03:35:16.000 The police are not legally obliged to protect citizens.

03:35:19.000 The Supreme Court has ruled clearly on this issue in the U.S. and in Canada.

03:35:25.000 Luca Blight, $69, $10. 0.99

03:35:27.000 Good guy with a gun is the dumbest fucking illogical conclusion anyone can. 0.99

03:35:31.000 Can't come up with a cop with a gun during the Douglas High School shooting. 1.00

03:35:36.000 Did Jack shit? 1.00

03:35:37.000 Oh, yeah, good guy with a gun. 1.00

03:35:40.000 LM $5. 1.00

03:35:41.000 I'm gonna take AIU's logic here and say we get rid of basketball Americans. 0.98

03:35:47.000 Basketball Americans, does he mean black Americans? 1.00

03:35:52.000 Wherever they are, there is more murder and murder is bad. 1.00

03:35:54.000 Okay, he did mean black Americans. 1.00

03:35:57.000 That's a new one. 0.97

03:35:58.000 Gamer for games, reality, 50 knuckles.

03:36:01.000 Banning guns will not help.

03:36:03.000 61% of gun murder in the USA is suicide.

03:36:06.000 Take that away.

03:36:07.000 What do we get?

03:36:09.000 Atheism says it's better to be defenseless against gangs.

03:36:14.000 Kroll, $5.

03:36:16.000 If assault rifles are banned, how would citizens defend themselves if taken over by another country? 0.93

03:36:21.000 Black state, $5. 0.99

03:36:23.000 What the hell is AIU talking about? 0.97

03:36:24.000 London murder rate is surpassing NYC with knives. 0.97

03:36:28.000 Is that true, JF? 1.00

03:36:31.000 Uh.

03:36:32.000 London murder rates surpass NYC.

03:36:36.000 Ah, with knives?

03:36:37.000 Hmm, I never seen the knives statistics.

03:36:41.000 All right.

03:36:42.000 Rang Le, $5.

03:36:43.000 Guns are the great equalizer. 1.00

03:36:45.000 When a seven foot tall Dindu goes to attack a grandma, if the grandma has a gun, she can defend herself. 1.00

03:36:54.000 You want to read on from there? 1.00

03:36:55.000 Hang on.

03:36:56.000 Let me just do one quick thing, dude.

03:36:58.000 Let me put it on.

03:37:00.000 I'm going to put it on a better.

03:37:05.000 There we go.

03:37:07.000 That's professionalism at its finest.

03:37:09.000 All right.

03:37:09.000 What is it?

03:37:10.000 Oh, I just changed the scene so it's wider and bigger.

03:37:14.000 So it looks, it's also the key.

03:37:16.000 All right, so we have Charles Chong, two pound.

03:37:19.000 Nick is pro gun, but he only ever needs the knife.

03:37:23.000 Recovery Anonymous, five dollar US. 1.00

03:37:26.000 YT should lose his guns because dindus kill each other in huge numbers in Chicago and few other cities in the US. 1.00

03:37:34.000 ARU's argument. 1.00

03:37:36.000 John Benachi, two dollar US.

03:37:38.000 Nick, facts slash stats.

03:37:42.000 Goofy.

03:37:43.000 Imagine a desert island.

03:37:45.000 Vinny S. 20 bucks.

03:37:46.000 South American countries have strict gun control and still have a larger murder rate than the US.

03:37:52.000 What those countries have in common is diversity, something Japan and many other European countries have no problem with.

03:38:00.000 Jan Camarillo.

03:38:01.000 $5 US.

03:38:03.000 Nick, is suicide by gun a small proportion of population control?

03:38:07.000 Do you support that reality, if true?

03:38:10.000 ZNDMB.

03:38:12.000 $2 US.

03:38:13.000 Defend yourself with gun equals increase gun death.

03:38:17.000 Bad how.

03:38:18.000 Gamer for games.

03:38:20.000 Reality 50 knock. 0.99

03:38:21.000 If I want to mass murder kids, I can take a truck and ram them down in the schoolyard or take the bus line. 1.00

03:38:28.000 If people want to kill, they find a way. 0.99

03:38:31.000 Peace, Lily.

03:38:32.000 Thank you for the $1 US donation.

03:38:35.000 And Foster.

03:38:36.000 Do you want me to pound this?

03:38:38.000 All right, go ahead.

03:38:39.000 All right.

03:38:41.000 Foster, two bucks.

03:38:42.000 I know how to solve this.

03:38:43.000 Have a gun, fight, winner wins.

03:38:46.000 And now, Sanoki, 10 pounds.

03:38:50.000 When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

03:38:53.000 Kroll, $5.

03:38:54.000 If pre World War I Poland didn't have guns, when the Warsaw Uprising wouldn't happen, leading to more dead bodies?

03:39:04.000 Glass half empty, $5. 0.62

03:39:06.000 Devin accepts the numbers on race, but can't accept that these races have different behaviors on their race.

03:39:13.000 It's not just skin color, it's not just culture.

03:39:17.000 Jason Hammond, Five dollars. 0.86

03:39:19.000 This guy has no fighting spirit, uh, thinking like a woman, trivializing self preservation, and thinking that political policy can control nature. 1.00

03:39:31.000 Uh, Alfred Saxon, 82, one pound. 1.00

03:39:33.000 Thank you very much.

03:39:34.000 Peace Lily, uh, $3.99.

03:39:36.000 Why is the world concerned with American laws?

03:39:40.000 Uh, producer Chris, we read this, but again, man, that's a massive donation, and we thank you so much.

03:39:46.000 We really appreciate it, man.

03:39:48.000 Peace Lily, five dollars.

03:39:49.000 AIU is the ultimate.

03:39:51.000 I've always depended on the kindness of strangers.

03:39:55.000 Neutered.

03:39:56.000 Mocha ice cream, $5.

03:39:58.000 Saying gun laws keep Japan safe from guns is like saying the Inquisition is keeping Salem safe from witches. 0.93

03:40:05.000 Herder, there's no witches, so it works.

03:40:08.000 So I forgot my water.

03:40:09.000 Maybe just read on so I can grab my water.

03:40:11.000 I forgot it.

03:40:12.000 Yeah, Hot Perrier, $10 US.

03:40:14.000 AIU is making you pick from two extremes.

03:40:17.000 The Crimson Satyr, $2 Canadian. 1.00

03:40:20.000 Quit appealing to the stone, you idiotic rook. 1.00

03:40:23.000 Finn White, $2 US. 1.00

03:40:24.000 Even the Nugs should have guns. 0.96

03:40:26.000 Nick, about a Bile Guy creation, $5 US. 0.96

03:40:30.000 I'll double this if you promise to never have AIU on again.

03:40:34.000 Well, we don't want your second super chat.

03:40:37.000 I prefer having AIU back on the show.

03:40:40.000 And then Hender, $5 US.

03:40:43.000 At AIU, Japan did not invade the USA in World War II because, quote, Aideki Tojo, there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.

03:40:53.000 Get owned in your next war, please.

03:40:56.000 Oh man, my bad.

03:40:57.000 $10 US.

03:40:58.000 You want to go and read this one?

03:40:59.000 Sure.

03:41:02.000 Ah, needed.

03:41:03.000 16,000 people murdered in the US per year, and about 10,000 of them are with a firearm.

03:41:09.000 Over 90% are gang violence.

03:41:11.000 Can you honestly argue that these people wouldn't kill without a gun?

03:41:17.000 DFC, two bucks. 0.53

03:41:18.000 Ask AIU about Trump derangement syndrome.

03:41:23.000 What's that?

03:41:25.000 I've read about this.

03:41:26.000 I don't remember what it was.

03:41:27.000 I'll Google it.

03:41:28.000 All right.

03:41:29.000 Gamer for Games, Reality, 50 knock.

03:41:32.000 People who want to ban guns are the ones who suffer from fear.

03:41:35.000 They look at people with guns as primitive cavemen that can shoot them at any given time.

03:41:40.000 The Vicious, $5.

03:41:42.000 AIU makes videos about. 1.00

03:41:43.000 The harm of Muslims tells us to vote for the person who wanted more Muslims in the country.

03:41:49.000 He lacks critical thinking. 0.97

03:41:51.000 Actually, yeah, I forgot.

03:41:52.000 So the syndrome is when leftists start crying on the street or on Twitter, they complain against Trump.

03:41:58.000 It's really people who have been victimized by just the fact that Trump won.

03:42:03.000 And by the way, that last super chat I just read about Hillary bringing in more Muslims, that was a big thing for me too, was the immigration thing.

03:42:12.000 And that was one of my points to him.

03:42:14.000 I forgot, it's been like Almost like two years, right?

03:42:17.000 But that was a big point where I was like, dude, you make tons of videos about Muslims. 0.98

03:42:23.000 She wants to bring in a shit ton. 0.95

03:42:26.000 So I was more concerned about that than the possibility of abortion becoming illegal because I don't see that happening.

03:42:35.000 Anyway, where was I?

03:42:38.000 Rashad Abdul Salam, $5.

03:42:41.000 Nick, won't I need a bazooka, grenades, and RPGs when the government brings tanks and SWAT to my home?

03:42:48.000 Why are you leaving me defenseless?

03:42:50.000 Yeah, that's the thing, too.

03:42:51.000 That was one of my points. 0.99

03:42:54.000 I can't, you want to defend yourself, but attacking the government, like when they have fucking, you know, helicopters and shit. 0.99

03:43:04.000 Hot Perrier, $5. 1.00

03:43:06.000 Kang's Aru is big brained.

03:43:09.000 John Young, $2. 1.00

03:43:10.000 AIU is so narcissistic, but never show face kind of pussy. 1.00

03:43:15.000 He has. 1.00

03:43:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:43:17.000 Yeah.

03:43:18.000 Yes.

03:43:18.000 Ramgard, $5.

03:43:20.000 Ruby Ridge and Wacko are good arguments for why citizens shouldn't want the government to have all the power.

03:43:27.000 Gamer for Games, $50 knock.

03:43:29.000 We should trust the government.

03:43:31.000 Someone needs to read history, recent and ancient. 0.99

03:43:35.000 Damn. 0.99

03:43:37.000 Freedom is nice, $5. 0.99

03:43:38.000 AIU, I want to ban guns because I'm scared of bad guys with guns.

03:43:42.000 Also, AIU, you want people to own guns?

03:43:44.000 What are you, a scared child?

03:43:47.000 Good point.

03:43:48.000 Gamer for Games, $50 knock. 0.91

03:43:50.000 Corrupt people don't care about your perception of how a civilization should function. 1.00

03:43:55.000 Life doesn't give a shit. 1.00

03:43:57.000 Shang Sung, $10. 0.99

03:43:59.000 The whole world is laughing at us, yet everyone wants to come to America.

03:44:05.000 That's why I always think in my head when everyone's like, everyone hates America.

03:44:11.000 Everyone wants to go there, though.

03:44:12.000 What are you talking about?

03:44:13.000 Edmund Ploppy, $5.

03:44:14.000 Tell AIU that tasers and pepper spray are illegal for Australian citizens to use, as well as defending with guns.

03:44:22.000 Wait.

03:44:23.000 Pepper spray is illegal in Australia.

03:44:25.000 Oh, yeah.

03:44:26.000 I mean, pepper spray is illegal in Canada.

03:44:29.000 It's illegal in most countries, but they sell it as a bear repellent and then it becomes legal.

03:44:35.000 But it would be illegal to market it as a human aggression device.

03:44:39.000 Well, it's a good thing I have myself some bear mace, right?

03:44:43.000 Yeah, those bears are so numerous.

03:44:45.000 Yeah, man.

03:44:46.000 Foster, $2.

03:44:47.000 The state has tanks and helicopters, though.

03:44:50.000 Glass half empty, $10. 0.98

03:44:52.000 To put it simply, Devin's ideology is so bad everywhere he goes, it goes to crap and yet advocates the same thing. 0.93

03:45:00.000 I'm honestly trying to read this exactly how it's spelled. 0.81

03:45:03.000 I'm sorry if they misspelled something.

03:45:05.000 If his family in South Africa says the same thing, they deserve the future, its race. 0.98

03:45:14.000 All right. 0.86

03:45:15.000 Mike Seppi, $10.

03:45:17.000 Andy, here's some stats from GTA Toronto.

03:45:19.000 That's who the one who wrote that.

03:45:21.000 He says 30 ish homicides a year on a population of 6.4 million in the Toronto area.

03:45:28.000 And then New York City has 300 homicides with 8.5 million. 1.00

03:45:34.000 Toronto just has as many blackslash brown as New York. 1.00

03:45:37.000 But I think Nick's point was.

03:45:39.000 That we have a lot of East Indians here or Asians, East Indians, I mean, yeah.

03:45:45.000 The black and brown populations of Canada they include a lot of Asians or Indians, and the black population of America is mostly constituted by descendants of slaves.

03:45:57.000 Yeah, so it's a big difference there.

03:45:59.000 Jake D. Stabia, five dollars.

03:46:02.000 If you do not have access to the most advanced weaponry available, your liberty is dependent upon the whims of any party with that access.

03:46:11.000 Um.

03:46:12.000 Weird C3F, whatever, $5.

03:46:15.000 America gets laughed at by countries that only have sovereignty because they can hide under the US threat umbrella.

03:46:23.000 Aiden Pallon, what's up, Aiden?

03:46:25.000 We love Aiden here.

03:46:26.000 Or Woski. 0.94

03:46:28.000 Five bucks, thank you. 0.99

03:46:29.000 Is Devin trolling or is this legitimately dumb? 0.83

03:46:32.000 Nick the Knife has nothing to do, sorry, has done nothing but give stats while AIU has been feels, reels this whole time. 0.96

03:46:42.000 I don't know how I would feel if a woman told me that I care too much about. 0.84

03:46:46.000 Feels over reels.

03:46:49.000 That's low.

03:46:50.000 I was torn on a lot of it, but a lot of it I was playing devil's advocate too.

03:46:55.000 Yeah.

03:46:56.000 It was a great debate on both sides by all measures.

03:46:59.000 Yeah, man, definitely.

03:47:01.000 Gamer for games, 50 knock. 0.90

03:47:03.000 So if I buy a gun, I automatically, a psychopath. 0.98

03:47:07.000 Atheism is a psychopath who doesn't trust himself with the gun and he reflects himself upon the world. 0.97

03:47:14.000 I don't think he said that. 0.99

03:47:15.000 He didn't say that if you buy a gun, you're a psychopath.

03:47:19.000 I think he said Americans should buy them because he just doesn't want them to be able to.

03:47:25.000 Juana01, two bucks.

03:47:27.000 AIU is clearly below 110 IQ, maybe lower than baked.

03:47:31.000 Oof.

03:47:33.000 I love that the 110 IQ is now some sort of a threshold.

03:47:37.000 It's a threshold.

03:47:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:47:40.000 Since you reached that, it's like, oh no, he's lower than 110.

03:47:45.000 It's like the new standard to meet. 1.00

03:47:51.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

03:47:54.000 Oh. 1.00

03:47:54.000 Iskits, $409, $5. 1.00

03:47:57.000 Hopefully, a democratic law will be written.

03:48:00.000 Vinny S., $10.

03:48:02.000 Maybe one day the UK will have a vote when the Muslims are a majority. 1.00

03:48:08.000 That will end very well for the brist. 1.00

03:48:12.000 Aiden Paladin, $2.

03:48:15.000 This is what atheism does to people.

03:48:19.000 Americanus Caesar.

03:48:20.000 Wait, is Aiden a religious?

03:48:24.000 Well, I don't, I never heard her position.

03:48:29.000 I want to ask you about that. 0.96

03:48:33.000 I have to have her back on the show for a proper talk.

03:48:36.000 Americanus Caesar, $5.

03:48:38.000 AIU comes from the presupposition.

03:48:44.000 God, presupposition. 0.99

03:48:45.000 Fucking Andy. 0.99

03:48:46.000 That all people want peace and all people are the same. 0.99

03:48:50.000 Not the case.

03:48:52.000 Hobbits to Hobbs, $10.

03:48:54.000 You guys have met your match.

03:48:56.000 You can't truthfully answer Devin's questions.

03:48:59.000 It wouldn't be better for most people to have guns. 1.00

03:49:02.000 Even from a white, right wing view, women, low IQs, etc., shouldn't have guns. 1.00

03:49:09.000 Uh, Shang Sung, five dollars. 1.00

03:49:11.000 The rest of the world doesn't have free speech. 1.00

03:49:14.000 AIU, dumb fuck. 1.00

03:49:15.000 That's the point. 1.00

03:49:16.000 By the way, can I just say this right here? 0.99

03:49:19.000 Um, if you're a woman who lives in the U.S. and you're in a shit neighborhood, maybe having a gun is a good idea. 0.99

03:49:29.000 Like, you're like assuming that they're gonna like just shoot all over the place, but if They're gonna get robbed in a shit neighborhood in America where everyone has a weapon, might not be a bad idea. 0.99

03:49:42.000 Even AIU said you should have one in America because of what's happening there. 0.99

03:49:47.000 400 million weapons. 0.99

03:49:49.000 Women having guns is not a big danger, to be honest. 1.00

03:49:52.000 Yeah, unless they're fucking aiming you. 1.00

03:49:54.000 Am I right? 1.00

03:49:55.000 Fuck you. 1.00

03:49:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:49:58.000 Okay.

03:50:00.000 Shang Sung, $5.

03:50:01.000 The rest of the world doesn't have.

03:50:03.000 Oh, yeah, I read that.

03:50:04.000 Luca Blight, $69.

03:50:06.000 So Nick is speaking from a theoretic point of view, whereas America is a secular nation.

03:50:06.000 God given.

03:50:13.000 C3OF, two bucks.

03:50:15.000 America became better in a fraction of the time.

03:50:19.000 Solomon, six million wits, two dollars.

03:50:21.000 Gun control equals British style tyranny. 0.98

03:50:24.000 Spooky Weep Trash. 0.97

03:50:25.000 What's up, spooky?

03:50:26.000 Five dollars.

03:50:27.000 Nick's knife is bigger than AIU's knife.

03:50:30.000 Vinny S, ten dollars.

03:50:32.000 How to keep the freedom of speech? 0.99

03:50:33.000 I know give the state a monopoly on gun ownership.

03:50:38.000 That will work so well.

03:50:40.000 John Richards, 25 bucks. 1.00

03:50:41.000 Godless idiot with the endless straw man argument. 1.00

03:50:45.000 John Young, five dollars. 1.00

03:50:46.000 How many mags can a kangaroo fit in its pouch?

03:50:50.000 None.

03:50:51.000 They're Vijay J's in the way.

03:50:53.000 Narcissism is unstoppable. 1.00

03:50:56.000 Bix, bully, a bowling or biling, five dollars. 0.94

03:51:01.000 A bowling. 0.96

03:51:03.000 Okay.

03:51:04.000 Yeah, it's with two L's.

03:51:04.000 Oh, bowling.

03:51:05.000 That fucked me up. 0.99

03:51:06.000 It looked like fucking the word bowling. 1.00

03:51:09.000 There are moments when society collapses and you have to protect yourself. 1.00

03:51:13.000 AIU.

03:51:14.000 Think Katrina after New Orleans.

03:51:18.000 Okay, read for a bit. 0.99

03:51:19.000 I need to drink water because my mouth is all fucking mush mouth. 0.97

03:51:22.000 I'll be skipping the amounts of money, I think, if my brain can do it because they don't matter except for a big donation. 0.98

03:51:29.000 Sure.

03:51:31.000 Hey, we don't use guns because we don't have guns.

03:51:34.000 Gandhi.

03:51:35.000 Mike Seppi.

03:51:36.000 Nick sounds like Kermit the Frog.

03:51:38.000 The Frog. 0.77

03:51:39.000 JF is a French frog.

03:51:41.000 Andy wants licked a frog to get high. 1.00

03:51:44.000 Dumb, dumb, dumb. 1.00

03:51:45.000 Line it all up. 1.00

03:51:46.000 Ben Noach. 0.54

03:51:48.000 AIU represents what's wrong with Western men today.

03:51:51.000 Guy Dude, why are you so afraid of being responsible for your own safety? 0.99

03:51:57.000 Why do you enjoy living like a domesticated animal?

03:52:01.000 Why do you think natural selection doesn't apply to you? 0.95

03:52:04.000 White Slave Owner, Commander Nick the Knife will lead the charge. 0.95

03:52:09.000 Halsey News Network, we read that one, but thank you so much.

03:52:12.000 $50 donation, awesome. 1.00

03:52:15.000 Aces of Spades, look at what lesser educated, destitute, low tech Arabs have done against First World armies for almost 100 years. 1.00

03:52:25.000 In a sense, Rush. 0.94

03:52:26.000 Denkula wouldn't have to make a choice about shooting cops if he lived in America.

03:52:32.000 They wouldn't come for him if they feared an armed uprising.

03:52:37.000 Blunderbuss, $20 Canadian.

03:52:39.000 AIU, why muck creationist contradiction when modern scientists flip flop somewhere?

03:52:45.000 This one I read it to AIU.

03:52:47.000 Broadster, ST. This kangaroo came here to troll. 0.99

03:52:51.000 He has no desire to talk. 0.98

03:52:53.000 He's just here for memes and to annoy Nick for the views.

03:52:56.000 Move on to super chats.

03:52:58.000 Well, we didn't move on, and it was quite interesting at the end.

03:53:01.000 Andy Western, $7 Canadian.

03:53:04.000 I'd like to see Devon debate JF on any topic with Devon doing.

03:53:09.000 Hey, I'm starting to stutter, Andy.

03:53:13.000 Yeah, this is a thing that happens. 0.99

03:53:14.000 What the fuck is happening? 0.99

03:53:15.000 Yeah, this happens with my friends that I hang out with a lot. 1.00

03:53:19.000 They'll start, like, it's contagious.

03:53:22.000 I apologize.

03:53:22.000 Your IQ is dropping right now, by the way.

03:53:27.000 Debate JF on any topic with Devon doing his JF in person.

03:53:31.000 Impersonation Jeff versus Devon's impersonation of Jeff.

03:53:35.000 Just think of the ratings. 1.00

03:53:37.000 Finn White, my sister wants to suck the blonde Mexican. 1.00

03:53:42.000 Ace of Spade, people commit crimes with their cars a lot more often. 1.00

03:53:47.000 LM, everyone turn in your guns because black men are dangerous. 1.00

03:53:52.000 Here, I'll pound through a few here. 1.00

03:53:54.000 Fuentes is fucking them up. 0.98

03:53:54.000 Oh, it's here, $10. 0.98

03:53:56.000 Bronster ST. AIU is like Eddie Bravo.

03:53:59.000 He was a flat earther just to show people that they need to sharpen their arguments. 0.96

03:54:04.000 Otherwise, he's a complete troll.

03:54:06.000 I've been watching him for a few years now. 0.89

03:54:06.000 He's not. 0.89

03:54:08.000 Rashad Abdul Salim, five bucks.

03:54:10.000 Nick, since laws don't stop bad people from doing bad things, why doesn't the government give everyone guns and remove all laws on murder, survival of the fittest?

03:54:20.000 Otsuka Bullfrog, two bucks.

03:54:22.000 Four times the amount of U.S. car deaths versus guns in 2016.

03:54:27.000 For posterity, two dollars.

03:54:28.000 Canada has a lot of guns.

03:54:30.000 Okay, yeah, sorry.

03:54:32.000 People are like, Andy, there is guns.

03:54:33.000 Yeah, there is, but it's mainly for hunting.

03:54:37.000 The steps to get them are ridiculous and they're very hard to obtain. 0.99

03:54:43.000 I just meant you can't just go in and sign your fucking license and do your test and then boom, handgun. 0.99

03:54:49.000 And it's like what JF said, it's mainly hunting weapons. 0.99

03:54:54.000 Yeah, like three bullets max.

03:54:58.000 Even the length of the barrel.

03:55:01.000 I couldn't carry my AR 15 in because the barrel was too long.

03:55:05.000 And what I meant by it, no one has it.

03:55:07.000 Has one is I don't know anyone who owns one because it's very rare.

03:55:13.000 Um, anyway, cosmic, and that's because Indy lives in town, whereas people like me who live in very far from towns, everyone has guns, but it's a very you wouldn't be able to pull that gun against an home invader, it's like a very long gun stored in the basement.

03:55:32.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

03:55:34.000 A cosmic Dorgan five dollars if you implemented demographic control.

03:55:39.000 Gun control issues solve itself, but certain interests make it social and political suicide to say something.

03:55:48.000 Sigur, $5.

03:55:49.000 Toronto equals white and Asian majority, only 5% black. 0.98

03:55:53.000 Scrub, $5. 0.88

03:55:54.000 If you wanted to raise the age to own guns to 25, you would have to raise the voting age to 25 because age of minority. 0.60

03:56:03.000 Riley Wolf, $5. 0.97

03:56:04.000 AIU, Ho, raise your sons and daughters in Rotterdam, you cuck. 0.96

03:56:09.000 Good old Shlomo, $2. 0.84

03:56:11.000 NYC, and NYS has tighter gun laws than Canada. 0.99

03:56:17.000 Yeah, but you could buy a fucking nice gun that you can fucking plow people with if they're like, or a home invader breaks in. 0.98

03:56:25.000 Like, yeah. 1.00

03:56:27.000 Again, try shooting someone with a fucking Canadian gun. 1.00

03:56:31.000 They're going to be like, ah, time to stab you. 1.00

03:56:34.000 And now you have to reload for like eight years. 1.00

03:56:37.000 With this bullet in my knee. 0.96

03:56:40.000 Exactly.

03:56:41.000 Please remove it.

03:56:42.000 Your hall of words, by the way, thank you for all those donations.

03:56:45.000 I read these out loud.

03:56:47.000 We really appreciate it, man.

03:56:49.000 Moats, Moats, $10.

03:56:51.000 AIU has a shrunken Amgadala?

03:56:54.000 Amgadala?

03:56:56.000 Amygdala, which is a part of the brain that encodes fears. 1.00

03:57:01.000 Damn. 1.00

03:57:03.000 Credible stoner, $5. 1.00

03:57:04.000 It's good to have a PhD in neurobiology right there on the show.

03:57:08.000 I was about to say, that word would have never been mentioned after if it was just me.

03:57:15.000 It would have been like, oh, okay.

03:57:17.000 Anyway, Credible stoner, $5.

03:57:20.000 I'm Canadian and own a gun for hunting.

03:57:23.000 If someone wanted to take it, they are going to have to pry it from my dead hands.

03:57:29.000 Christopher Murray, $5.

03:57:30.000 All these countries that score after USA have heavy gun control.

03:57:35.000 Kikidiu Kroll, $2.

03:57:39.000 Thank you very much.

03:57:40.000 Zero, zero, two bucks. 0.60

03:57:42.000 Melanin regulation is common sense gun control.

03:57:47.000 General Otto, $5. 0.58

03:57:48.000 You aren't even American.

03:57:49.000 Argument over.

03:57:51.000 Samuel Heidberg, $2.

03:57:53.000 AIU is a 105 IQ.

03:57:57.000 LARPing as a 140 IQ.

03:58:00.000 Eskits 409 10.

03:58:02.000 AIU has the assumption that a specific society civilization will last forever once guns are gone, they are gone, and one's family line will not be able to survive to the best of their ability.

03:58:15.000 Who flung poo?

03:58:16.000 Two dollars.

03:58:17.000 U.S. politicians have been on terrorist no fly lists.

03:58:21.000 LM two dollars.

03:58:22.000 Our gov actually placed children on the no fly list.

03:58:27.000 Um, Mike Seppi five dollars.

03:58:28.000 Nick, are those eyebrows or slugs? 0.86

03:58:31.000 I want to pour dish soap on your head and use. 0.84

03:58:34.000 You to scrub my pots, those brows are the only bush, Nick. 0.77

03:58:39.000 Will you ever see?

03:58:42.000 Uh, do you want to read on from here?

03:58:44.000 Yeah, Zach Kowaletsky, $20 US.

03:58:47.000 You don't extra judiciously remove citizens' rights without trial by jury.

03:58:53.000 Secondly, racial demographics most likely come in second to single mother, low income inner city culture.

03:59:01.000 Brendan Ensign, $20 US. 0.75

03:59:04.000 Kangaroo men, who would you keep guns from exactly and why? 0.79

03:59:09.000 Luca Blight, 69.

03:59:11.000 Is Nick J opposed to universal background checks?

03:59:15.000 Sinatra says, How are you doing, man?

03:59:18.000 He says, Is he Jewish? 0.99

03:59:20.000 No, he is not. 1.00

03:59:21.000 White slave owner, $2 Australian. 0.80

03:59:23.000 Where is the plan B? 0.87

03:59:25.000 What do we get instead of guns?

03:59:27.000 Other words, another donation of £50.

03:59:30.000 Did you read this one?

03:59:33.000 Speaking of Butchered?

03:59:34.000 Oh, yeah, speaking of Butchered, quote.

03:59:34.000 Yeah.

03:59:36.000 Yeah, I read that.

03:59:37.000 The Princeton Satire.

03:59:39.000 ARU, please explain the gun show loophole, please.

03:59:42.000 Party time, $1,010 US.

03:59:45.000 Explain the gun show loophole. 0.82

03:59:47.000 Elizabeth Luker, $5 US. 0.96

03:59:49.000 Anyone who uses Vegas as a gun control argument point is nuts. 0.97

03:59:57.000 Hell no, he didn't pull that off. 0.73

04:00:00.000 Matakis, $20 US.

04:00:04.000 The more you look at gun crime in America, the more it becomes a racial issue.

04:00:11.000 Using mass shooters as an argument for gun control is disingenuous. 0.50

04:00:15.000 The majority of gun violence comes from metropolitan ghettos, shall not be infringed. 0.70

04:00:21.000 Crawl. 0.83

04:00:22.000 AIU makes embarrassed to be atheist.

04:00:26.000 Makes me embarrassed.

04:00:27.000 Vinny S. 50 bucks.

04:00:29.000 Thank you so much. 0.93

04:00:31.000 So whites in SA can use guns, but whites in the US can't. 0.96

04:00:35.000 You read this one. 1.00

04:00:36.000 Kroll, Germany has rape gangs because guns are rare.

04:00:40.000 Stahl Gondo, $5 US.

04:00:42.000 Restricting access to guns because a government agency failed to stop a shooting just gives the government incentive to stop fewer shootings without blame.

04:00:53.000 MH, $5 Canadian. 0.53

04:00:55.000 Does Nick admit the Bible was made by Jews and that Jesus was a Jew? 1.00

04:01:00.000 Or is he actually stupid enough to believe that Jesus or the Jews were white? 1.00

04:01:05.000 Jan Camarillo, $2 US. 1.00

04:01:08.000 Nick is Vegas, a 0.001% population control.

04:01:14.000 Edmund Pluppy, $5 Australian.

04:01:17.000 Australian gun stats are skewed by anti gun studies that conform to the gun control myth.

04:01:24.000 They changed the definition of what a mass shooting is.

04:01:28.000 All right.

04:01:29.000 00, two bucks.

04:01:30.000 Ham causes fatties, so ban pigs.

04:01:32.000 No fatties, done.

04:01:35.000 Constantine's commentary, five dollars.

04:01:38.000 Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia have a high suicide rate despite having few guns.

04:01:46.000 Jimmy Ross, 20 bucks.

04:01:47.000 Would you give up your rights if 10 people won't kill themselves?

04:01:51.000 I think he brought that up on the show.

04:01:54.000 Blunderbuss, 20 bucks.

04:01:55.000 Should race be part of your ideal vetting process?

04:01:58.000 Concerning gun purchases or ownership, AIU, or is a colorblind policy best?

04:02:05.000 Lulls money, $99, $5.

04:02:09.000 What will you regulate when drone mounted 3D printed guns become cheaper and more reliable and other devices like Ghost Gunner become cheaper?

04:02:20.000 Jimmy Ross, $10.

04:02:21.000 Give up your rights for Wii.

04:02:24.000 Estics, $409, $5.

04:02:25.000 I think we proved tonight that atheism is indeed stoppable.

04:02:29.000 American Caesar, $5.

04:02:31.000 AIU needs to.

04:02:32.000 The government to protect him, Nick and guns owners simply need themselves.

04:02:38.000 Who is the one that really lives in fear?

04:02:42.000 This is the point where my eyes start blurring the fuck up and it's hard to read.

04:02:46.000 Um, Japan and South Korea, sorry, K Pilot, $44, $5.

04:02:50.000 Japan and South Korea have banned guns, yet they have higher suicide rates than other countries who have not banned guns.

04:02:57.000 Why is this the case?

04:02:59.000 Mike Seppi, $2.

04:03:00.000 Nick, stop calling JF an egghead.

04:03:03.000 Um, Innocence Rush, $5. 1.00

04:03:05.000 If someone is too dumb to end themselves unarmed, I don't want that moron existing. 1.00

04:03:10.000 Give Jonathan. 1.00

04:03:11.000 Oh my god.

04:03:14.000 Merca Millennium, $20.

04:03:16.000 What a gun control stop terrorists from smuggling AKs into France to kill 90 people at a music concert.

04:03:23.000 Ultimately, moral solution to immoral actors.

04:03:27.000 Restrict those least likely to hurt anyone with a gun.

04:03:32.000 Kroll, $2. 0.98

04:03:33.000 AIU, you're a fake atheist. 0.95

04:03:34.000 You traded guns. 0.99

04:03:35.000 God with Gov. C3, same with canine ownership. 0.50

04:03:40.000 Ban dogs.

04:03:41.000 Who's 95?

04:03:42.000 Yo, is this live?

04:03:42.000 $5.

04:03:44.000 Yo, who's 95?

04:03:45.000 Again, the CIV Nibbus glow in the dock.

04:03:50.000 Blundered bus, $20.

04:03:51.000 Hey, he does not want to talk about racial demographics and gun crime.

04:03:57.000 Please rough him up on this, Nick.

04:04:00.000 Brandon Hansen, $5.

04:04:01.000 Oh, bruv, do you have your death by cop?

04:04:05.000 License, Croll, $5. 0.95

04:04:07.000 AIU Muslims were able to overpower police in France because they had no guns. 0.82

04:04:13.000 AIU said police should have guns. 0.98

04:04:15.000 So, Slacker Magician $5. 0.99

04:04:18.000 AIU's afraid argument is retarded. 0.90

04:04:21.000 Isn't the whole position basically that he is afraid of people dying from gun violence? 0.99

04:04:26.000 Everyone operates that way. 0.99

04:04:28.000 By the way, JF, did you see that video of the Muslim people like shaking off the police and then handcuffing the police? 1.00

04:04:37.000 Yo, watch it.

04:04:37.000 No, I haven't.

04:04:38.000 It's fine.

04:04:39.000 Where was it?

04:04:40.000 In the UK.

04:04:41.000 Yeah.

04:04:42.000 Not surprised.

04:04:43.000 Yeah.

04:04:45.000 Hollow words, 20 pounds. 0.98

04:04:47.000 Gun rights are the cork holding back. 0.65

04:04:49.000 The flood, the moment gun rights are conceded, America is on the same path to destruction as so many EU nations. 0.70

04:04:58.000 I'd rather die free than live subject to a nanny state. 0.54

04:05:02.000 Liberty or death.

04:05:03.000 Never alone forever, $5.

04:05:05.000 About the Second Amendment, it doesn't declare you the right to get arms, only to keep and bear them.

04:05:12.000 Militias are made of individuals trusted with them.

04:05:17.000 That's a pretty semantic game there.

04:05:20.000 Yeah, it sounds like.

04:05:21.000 If you can bear arms, you should be able to bear them to the next person who will buy them from you and bear them too.

04:05:29.000 Yeah, it's like, for what? 0.99

04:05:31.000 They had to stop fucking guns. 0.99

04:05:34.000 You have to 3D print your own guns to bear them. 1.00

04:05:38.000 Oh my God.

04:05:41.000 We must gangs, five bucks, shall not be infringed.

04:05:43.000 K Pilot, $10.

04:05:45.000 Obviously, with any X item, there is a possibility of an accident happening that item.

04:05:51.000 If you never get in a car, you'll never get in a car accident.

04:05:54.000 Video skeleton, $5. 0.99

04:05:57.000 Low IQ AIU, fool that you are, owning a gun increases chances of dying by a gun. 1.00

04:06:03.000 Swimming increases your chance of drowning. 1.00

04:06:05.000 Give me a break, you mook. 1.00

04:06:07.000 IXI, $2. 1.00

04:06:09.000 People suffocate playing fuzzy funny bunnies.

04:06:13.000 Innocent Rush, $2.

04:06:13.000 Ban.

04:06:15.000 Correction, give Ross. 1.00

04:06:17.000 Oh, fucking. 1.00

04:06:19.000 White slave owner, $2. 1.00

04:06:21.000 Would AIU ban gas and ovens? 0.98

04:06:25.000 J man one two two dollars for shotgun shells for the crazy lumberjacks.

04:06:30.000 Revenge of the Dreamer ten dollars.

04:06:32.000 People do lock their doors in Canada, Devin.

04:06:34.000 I do.

04:06:35.000 Uh, Brian Krollsman ten dollars.

04:06:38.000 Hundreds of people are killed by hammers every year. 1.00

04:06:41.000 This kangaroo guy doesn't want to regulate hammers, then he's full of shit. 1.00

04:06:44.000 Gabriel Lopez, what's up, buddy? 1.00

04:06:46.000 Ten dollars.

04:06:47.000 I think guns created civilized people before guns. 0.99

04:06:50.000 A small group of people could easily rape and pillage.

04:06:53.000 After guns, whoever. 0.92

04:06:55.000 Whoever group did that just died off.

04:06:58.000 Balls Monkey, $5.

04:07:00.000 New solution get rid of guns and everyone learns Kung Fu.

04:07:04.000 Turn everyone into Jackie Chan. 0.89

04:07:06.000 Never mind.

04:07:07.000 That's a great idea.

04:07:07.000 I love it.

04:07:08.000 But Jackie Chan was not a true fighter.

04:07:11.000 It was all props.

04:07:12.000 No.

04:07:13.000 Dude, what are you talking about?

04:07:14.000 Oh, I have to send you a video.

04:07:16.000 He was an amazing stuntman. 0.99

04:07:19.000 Holy shit. 1.00

04:07:20.000 Oh, exactly. 0.99

04:07:21.000 That's what I'm saying.

04:07:22.000 A stuntman. 1.00

04:07:23.000 Yeah, but he did some dangerous shit. 0.99

04:07:25.000 Do you want to read on for a little bit? 1.00

04:07:27.000 I would have beaten him in jujitsu.

04:07:30.000 Never alone forever. 0.75

04:07:31.000 $5 US.

04:07:32.000 Devon Tracy has got to learn.

04:07:34.000 Most areas' high crime rates have tough gun control laws. 0.51

04:07:38.000 However, international gun sales are a threat to world peace.

04:07:44.000 Vinny S. How about private security or the state and only the state?

04:07:49.000 Ozzy Mendes.

04:07:50.000 Anti gun is anti woman. 1.00

04:07:53.000 Guns are the only equalizer in male female conflict. 1.00

04:07:56.000 No gun means rape gangs.

04:07:59.000 Brendan Henson, $15 US.

04:08:01.000 Thank you so much.

04:08:02.000 Hey, Kangaroo Man, how many times have you jerked it?

04:08:05.000 Oh, this one, you read it.

04:08:09.000 Ace of Spades, $2 US.

04:08:13.000 Skeptic calling a government skeptic, truffer. 1.00

04:08:17.000 Yeah, bitch. 1.00

04:08:18.000 $5 US. 1.00

04:08:19.000 Lost gun debate.

04:08:21.000 Better gaslight.

04:08:22.000 BJ Tingle.

04:08:24.000 Gulf of Tonkin.

04:08:26.000 Where are you?

04:08:29.000 Well, I'm at the third one.

04:08:31.000 Gulf of Tonkin.

04:08:33.000 BJ Tingle.

04:08:35.000 What are you looking at?

04:08:37.000 Well, I'm looking at your screen that you're sending me through screen share.

04:08:41.000 The third one.

04:08:42.000 BJ.

04:08:43.000 BJ.

04:08:44.000 Oh, BJ Tingle.

04:08:45.000 Sorry.

04:08:45.000 You said Tango.

04:08:46.000 I thought you said Tango.

04:08:48.000 Okay.

04:08:49.000 My bad.

04:08:49.000 Sorry.

04:08:51.000 Range 3341, $5 US.

04:08:54.000 I'm about to unsub from ARU.

04:08:56.000 He did a great performance.

04:08:56.000 Don't do that.

04:08:58.000 It was entertaining.

04:08:59.000 It's okay to take the side of the other, but know that the other guy is there to entertain you too.

04:09:05.000 VGEDRR, $10 Australian.

04:09:08.000 Some theater group did a mock debate between Hillary and Trump, but gender swapped.

04:09:14.000 Everyone loved the woman Trump. 0.95

04:09:16.000 Godzilla37, why were you subbed to AIU in the first place?

04:09:21.000 Again, I say to all of our audience if you were entertained by today's debate, just go subscribe to the two YouTubers.

04:09:27.000 So you will encourage people to want to appear on Warski Live and debate their stuff in front of you.

04:09:33.000 The baskets for online $2 US.

04:09:36.000 And before a SPLC mention, Ginger Avenger $10 US.

04:09:41.000 AIU is much more convincing in his own awesome videos when no one is there to rebuke.

04:09:48.000 Guts $2 US. 1.00

04:09:49.000 AIU is a total moron. 1.00

04:09:52.000 You guys are rough. 1.00

04:09:53.000 I'll be on for a little bit.

04:09:55.000 Range 3341, $5.

04:09:57.000 Done. 0.92

04:09:58.000 AIU doesn't understand that democratic policies are destroying the West and whites. 0.95

04:10:02.000 LM $5. 0.92

04:10:03.000 If abortion is the right, then child support shouldn't exist. 1.00

04:10:07.000 It's a woman's choice, right, her responsibility. 0.90

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04:10:13.000 Andy, take the test at iSideWith.com.

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04:10:18.000 We need more money for Dem.

04:10:20.000 Programs the vicious two dollars.

04:10:22.000 I have a question that might make you look bad.

04:10:26.000 Uh, Duncan Brown five dollars.

04:10:27.000 But now he that hath a purse, let him take it and likewise his scrip.

04:10:35.000 And he hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

04:10:40.000 Uh, Willem Von Whatever five dollars.

04:10:43.000 Degenerates like autism is unstoppable. 1.00

04:10:45.000 Belong on a guys, enough with this fucking people should die shit. 1.00

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04:10:54.000 Love AIU.

04:10:55.000 Question for JF.

04:10:56.000 I am from Northern Ontario, Sudbury.

04:10:59.000 I can get a gun easily.

04:11:01.000 Why do you keep saying you can't get one?

04:11:03.000 Just a weekend, of course.

04:11:06.000 Just a weekend course.

04:11:07.000 Because you've never been in America where I just entered a shop and I bought an AR 15 in less than three minutes. 0.99

04:11:16.000 God damn. 0.99

04:11:17.000 You couldn't get that AR 15. 0.99

04:11:19.000 Even if you have it, you couldn't even bring it in Canada because of the barrel length.

04:11:24.000 And the number of cartridges and bullets.

04:11:29.000 I add thousands of bullets in three minutes. 0.99

04:11:33.000 God damn it. 1.00

04:11:35.000 100 me, $5. 1.00

04:11:36.000 This crap tier atheist faggot tree is so old. 1.00

04:11:40.000 Brian Krollsman, $10. 1.00

04:11:42.000 This Nick guy is great, way more likable than the smug kangaroo.

04:11:47.000 Toxic Sparrow, $5.

04:11:48.000 It sounds like Nick Fuentes is being condescendingly interrogated. 0.99

04:11:53.000 Guy needs to chill the fuck out. 0.98

04:11:55.000 Thomas Coors, $5. 1.00

04:11:56.000 Nick, atheists are one trick ponies. 1.00

04:11:59.000 They have no position. 0.99

04:12:00.000 Probe him back about his beliefs, which I did.

04:12:04.000 And I told Nick to do.

04:12:07.000 And then AIU was like, I don't want to answer it.

04:12:09.000 And I'm like, yo, you asked him questions.

04:12:11.000 He's like, fine.

04:12:13.000 I want to make sure it's fair.

04:12:14.000 Toxic mask, $2.

04:12:16.000 Thank you very much.

04:12:17.000 Dead by name, $10.

04:12:18.000 Jesus did come back, but Nick shot him when he stepped on his property to preach the word.

04:12:25.000 Floyd in Pink, $5.

04:12:27.000 Asked Evan whether he stands by his statement that men should sit down to piss.

04:12:33.000 Americanus Caesar, $5.

04:12:35.000 Got BTFO'd by the knicker on gun debates.

04:12:40.000 I see what you did there.

04:12:42.000 So now he's trying to damage control.

04:12:44.000 Hollow words, five pounds.

04:12:46.000 Nick just said, Everyone forever sent to hell is still there.

04:12:50.000 And if you're in hell, you don't get internal life in the space of like 15 seconds.

04:12:58.000 Willem, five dollars.

04:12:59.000 Let me in and I can answer these questions on hell to an extent.

04:13:03.000 Eric Oda, five dollars.

04:13:04.000 I'm a polytheist and Yahweh is over exaggerated.

04:13:08.000 Wind god and Allah, a moon god.

04:13:11.000 Deus and his brothers are the creator of modern man and the races.

04:13:15.000 Space reptile, two bucks.

04:13:16.000 Hell is real. 0.85

04:13:18.000 It's a place.

04:13:19.000 That plays AIU's channel.

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04:13:24.000 A more linear current idea doesn't mean a better idea.

04:13:30.000 Turok, I'm fading. 0.99

04:13:32.000 I don't know about you, fucking Jesus Christ. 1.00

04:13:35.000 Turok Hilson. 1.00

04:13:35.000 I can take over. 1.00

04:13:37.000 Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

04:13:39.000 Turok Hilson, $500.

04:13:41.000 Thank you so much.

04:13:42.000 I read this one.

04:13:44.000 The Crimson Satire.

04:13:45.000 And someone accused me then on the chat of not knowing what the pineal gland is. 1.00

04:13:50.000 I know what the Pineal Glen is, motherfuckers. 0.99

04:13:53.000 I just didn't know what he meant by the use of the pineal Glen in his super chat. 0.99

04:13:58.000 The Crimson Satire, $2 Canadian.

04:14:01.000 Hey, are you, what thoughts do you disagree with Sam Harris on?

04:14:06.000 I think that he did one video about four months ago where I saw him disagree with something.

04:14:11.000 I think it was, was it white nationalism?

04:14:14.000 I don't remember.

04:14:16.000 George Henry, $50 US.

04:14:18.000 Thank you so much. 1.00

04:14:20.000 Atheism is unstoppable, is an annoying retard with a room temperature IQ. 1.00

04:14:25.000 Are you talking about Kelvins or are you talking about Celsius? 1.00

04:14:29.000 RTZW, $5 US.

04:14:31.000 Do any living things besides humans have souls?

04:14:35.000 Does my dog have a soul?

04:14:36.000 Will he go to heaven?

04:14:38.000 Vinny S. Can you guys do a show on reformation versus revolution?

04:14:38.000 Good questions.

04:14:44.000 If democracy can solve the problems of the West, great show as always.

04:14:48.000 That is a very good idea.

04:14:50.000 I think I'll try to think about some names who could come in and debate democracy.

04:14:55.000 I would be up for a debate on democracy.

04:14:58.000 What are you doing in Musswamp?

04:14:59.000 $10 US.

04:15:00.000 I don't understand.

04:15:01.000 Leftists need to attack God. 0.96

04:15:03.000 He's the only thing stopping conservative people turning into fascists and cleaning leftists like rodents because they're no longer restricted morally. 0.95

04:15:14.000 Arocoda, $5 US. 0.85

04:15:16.000 The Egyptians did the same thing and over exaggerated a God and made him more than what he was. 1.00

04:15:22.000 Quit worshipping a wind god with Zoroastrian ethnicity. 0.90

04:15:27.000 VGEDRR, $10 Australian.

04:15:30.000 AIU makes me hate being an AP.

04:15:33.000 Again, V G E D R, $10 Australian. 1.00

04:15:36.000 Empathy destroys civilizations.

04:15:39.000 I want to add, too, I'm not attacking God.

04:15:43.000 I just don't believe, and I'm letting you know.

04:15:46.000 I'm not an anti theist, though, unless the religion has something that's very cult like or it hurts people.

04:15:54.000 All right.

04:15:55.000 Arokoda, $5 US.

04:15:57.000 Nick is acting like there was no morality before God, but forgets that our morality is from European polytheist pantheons.

04:16:05.000 Mason Allen, $5 US.

04:16:08.000 AIU, do you think we need to get rid of religion?

04:16:11.000 And Nick, do you think that morals can be manipulated?

04:16:14.000 Pin it up, Maynard, $20 US. 0.99

04:16:17.000 I'd rather get shot than have acid thrown in my pretty face. 0.96

04:16:21.000 And Nick is right. 0.99

04:16:22.000 There is no place except America.

04:16:25.000 America first.

04:16:27.000 The real McCoy, $10 US. 1.00

04:16:29.000 AIU relies on other people too, like his mom, to wipe his crusty ass. 0.99

04:16:36.000 AIU, give us one original thought. 1.00

04:16:38.000 Horror.

04:16:40.000 Not one person likes AIU here.

04:16:44.000 I think only one super chat, like literally.

04:16:48.000 And this tells me a lot about YouTube and the schism between the left and the right.

04:16:53.000 I mean, personally, AIU, I was a big fan of him very early in his career.

04:16:59.000 And it's shocking to see the schism between the alt right audience and the people who like AIU.

04:17:06.000 Well, he's the one who like red pilled me on race.

04:17:13.000 I was, yeah, it's true. 0.94

04:17:15.000 He was one of the earliest on YouTube who was talking about white versus black questions in America. 0.91

04:17:22.000 Yeah, yeah, he's so he. 0.90

04:17:25.000 It's amazing that he's still the same guy, but he's too cocked for the audience that's rising.

04:17:32.000 Where are we?

04:17:34.000 SJ?

04:17:35.000 SJ.

04:17:36.000 Hey, look, I know people in the chat were mad at me.

04:17:42.000 I'm being honest with you.

04:17:43.000 Do you want me to lie and fake who I am?

04:17:47.000 No, I'm going to tell you what I think.

04:17:49.000 If you go, oh my God, this is what the magic is between me and JF we're very different people.

04:17:56.000 And I think that's what makes it interesting.

04:17:59.000 I'm more of a layman, emotional.

04:18:02.000 I have different belief systems and I'm loud and all that stuff.

04:18:06.000 And JF is very the opposite, very like chill, calculated, all that.

04:18:13.000 And it makes it interesting.

04:18:14.000 So, except when I snap.

04:18:17.000 When you snap, it's different.

04:18:17.000 Yeah.

04:18:17.000 Oh, yeah.

04:18:19.000 Scary.

04:18:21.000 All right.

04:18:21.000 SJ, $10.

04:18:22.000 AIU, I'm an atheist and center left on most issues except for immigration.

04:18:26.000 How can you support Dems knowing how anti white slash pro demographic replacement their immigration policies have become?

04:18:34.000 Thanks.

04:18:35.000 That's probably like the biggest issue I have with Dems.

04:18:39.000 VG Dürer, $5.

04:18:40.000 You're not my dad, God.

04:18:42.000 Air Coda, $5. 0.99

04:18:43.000 Christians' morals are adopted from thousands of years of pagan trial and error. 0.97

04:18:49.000 Binks bawling $5. 0.98

04:18:50.000 Andy, Essie Dobbies would prefer you use their pronouns because that's the empathetic thing to do. 0.96

04:18:59.000 No, that's not how empathy works. 0.90

04:19:03.000 I believe I'm a man because I am a man. 1.00

04:19:07.000 And when you say zir, I can't empathize with that. 1.00

04:19:13.000 So you fucked up there, Binks. 1.00

04:19:15.000 I mean, they have a good point, which is if you really base your argument solely on empathy for morality. 1.00

04:19:23.000 You should be doing everything you can to increase the happiness in other people to the point where they could be. 0.98

04:19:31.000 But if it's stupid and it makes me unhappy and it's illogical, like if it's illogical, I'm going to go, no. 0.97

04:19:40.000 Like there's no logic in being called zir. 0.99

04:19:43.000 But this tells us that you have other moral principles than just empathy.

04:19:48.000 You have a sort of deontological approach to some moral problems.

04:19:56.000 Fair enough.

04:19:57.000 All right, cool.

04:19:58.000 All right, you know what?

04:20:00.000 You got me.

04:20:02.000 Good.

04:20:03.000 You got me.

04:20:06.000 Dollars a message retracted.

04:20:08.000 Thank you very much.

04:20:09.000 BJ Tingle, ten dollars. 1.00

04:20:10.000 You can only have this morality question in a Christian country. 1.00

04:20:14.000 You can't have it in countries where they throw gays off of buildings or cut off hands for stealing. 1.00

04:20:20.000 Uh, range three three four one. 0.99

04:20:22.000 Wait, don't they throw gays off of buildings because of their religion? 0.99

04:20:29.000 I've seen it, I've seen YouTube videos of it that seem genuine. 0.97

04:20:32.000 Yeah, yeah, so it's also with religion.

04:20:36.000 So, religion, while in a Christian country. Is positive, their religion in the Middle East is negative. 1.00

04:20:46.000 So, yeah. 1.00

04:20:47.000 Anyway, range 3341, five bucks.

04:20:49.000 If it's as simple as the golden rule, then why is there ever any conflict?

04:20:54.000 Everyone should be objectively getting along, right? 0.99

04:20:56.000 Well, people fuck up. 1.00

04:20:58.000 Eskits 409, five bucks. 1.00

04:21:00.000 Emmanuel can't.

04:21:01.000 Andy, Macbeth, five bucks.

04:21:04.000 Andy, what about people who have empathy for real Ross?

04:21:08.000 Well, he's encouraging a Being a pedophile and he works at a school, so he's hurting children. 1.00

04:21:17.000 And my empathy says, I don't want children being hurt, therefore, fuck him. 1.00

04:21:22.000 Eskits 409, $5. 1.00

04:21:24.000 Don't you think that your mind was created by the religion that you were fighting against and why you have these morals?

04:21:31.000 Range 3341, $5.

04:21:33.000 People need a moral social contract and a goal to agree upon.

04:21:37.000 I'm agnostic, but even I understand this basic fundamental need.

04:21:41.000 Flip S $10, murder is bad unless the God of the Bible. 0.68

04:21:45.000 Does it genocide Egyptian infants and turning people into pillars? 0.97

04:21:48.000 Salt, keck, spare me your Abrahamic filth. 1.00

04:21:52.000 Erkota, five dollars. 1.00

04:21:53.000 Nick is acting like we had no sense of right and wrong before God.

04:21:57.000 The Ten Commandments piggyback on the trial and error of the quest for order.

04:22:02.000 Mimir's head, five dollars.

04:22:03.000 There are objective moral truths in the secular world.

04:22:06.000 AI is completely wrong and, as usual, is a bad representation of secularism.

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04:22:16.000 Andy's contempt for his audience comes out today.

04:22:18.000 I've told you all how I feel. 1.00

04:22:20.000 Fuck off. 1.00

04:22:21.000 I'm just joking. 1.00

04:22:22.000 I love you guys.

04:22:23.000 Arrange 3341.

04:22:24.000 Five bucks.

04:22:25.000 Andy, the alt right mainly care about white people.

04:22:27.000 Your beliefs are secondary.

04:22:29.000 Don't worry.

04:22:30.000 Eric Cota, five dollars.

04:22:31.000 Tribal men discovered that people killing one another creates disorder, which makes the tribe.

04:22:37.000 I read that one. 1.00

04:22:37.000 Thank you. 1.00

04:22:38.000 Pinky culture, two bucks. 0.98

04:22:39.000 I'm an atheist and big fan. 1.00

04:22:41.000 The vicious, two bucks.

04:22:42.000 Is doxing moral?

04:22:44.000 Nope.

04:22:45.000 I don't think so.

04:22:46.000 Eric Cota, five dollars.

04:22:48.000 I read this one too.

04:22:49.000 Thank you very much.

04:22:50.000 C3O, $5.

04:22:51.000 You're over 10 times more likely to be molested by a government school teacher.

04:22:56.000 Turok Hilson, $20. 0.85

04:22:58.000 You're not Christian, Nick. 0.98

04:22:59.000 You're a cultist. 0.93

04:23:00.000 Duncan Brown, $2. 0.99

04:23:01.000 Everyone is a sinner, you fedora.

04:23:04.000 Neverless Wonder, $5. 0.94

04:23:05.000 Atheism is subjective. 0.75

04:23:07.000 Morality leads to degeneracy.

04:23:09.000 Pedophiles, apologists, for example.

04:23:12.000 Watch Medicare's latest video.

04:23:14.000 Air Coda, $2.

04:23:15.000 It's called Trial and Error, Nick.

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04:23:18.000 Without God, VR porn becomes the most.

04:23:21.000 Holy undertaking. 0.63

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04:23:25.000 I guess all Nick's stock in liberty evaporates as soon as a higher ranking Catholic plays the role of a government official. 1.00

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04:23:38.000 Argument.

04:23:39.000 The book of Leviticus forbade sexual deviant behaviors. 0.70

04:23:45.000 Example, homosexuality, because it was meant to prevent early societies from destruction. 0.85

04:23:51.000 C3O, two bucks. 0.84

04:23:52.000 Devin, because government.

04:23:54.000 Samuel Heidenberg, two bucks.

04:23:56.000 Thomas Aquinas shows atheism is, in fact, stoppable.

04:24:00.000 The real McCoy, five bucks.

04:24:01.000 How many books did you complete by the time you were 18, Andy?

04:24:05.000 Same goes for the brain lit AIU, probably like 10 or something.

04:24:10.000 Yeah, something like that.

04:24:12.000 Brian Krollsman, ten dollars.

04:24:14.000 Nick seems like a really happy guy with a purpose, and the kangaroo is really smug and sounds unhappy. 0.89

04:24:19.000 I take Nick's life advice over the atheist any day, lead by example, as they say.

04:24:25.000 Colin Roton, five bucks.

04:24:28.000 Listen to John Lennox on faith and science, guys.

04:24:31.000 You need faith to believe in science, faith to believe. 0.99

04:24:36.000 Holy fuck, where are we? 1.00

04:24:39.000 Oh my god, right over. 0.99

04:24:42.000 Was it here?

04:24:44.000 All right, here.

04:24:45.000 Never alone forever, two bucks.

04:24:46.000 Science is natural philosophy.

04:24:48.000 Brendia, ten dollars.

04:24:49.000 And you need to understand that your understanding of what is good is because you were raised in the West.

04:24:54.000 Culturally, you are Christian. 0.60

04:24:56.000 What you consider good is not universal around the world. 1.00

04:24:59.000 Fair enough.

04:25:00.000 Dark Lord of all five dollars.

04:25:01.000 And if you have done, if you haven't done the experimentation that proves any.

04:25:06.000 Any of the de facto truths in science, then you're taking those truths on faith.

04:25:12.000 Jacob Smith, $5.

04:25:13.000 Nick the Knife leaves no survivors.

04:25:15.000 Read the shorter summa, you heathens, good sports.

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04:25:21.000 Evolution proven scientific law or theory.

04:25:24.000 Kyler, the Virgin, Atheist, Surly, Combative, Unhappy, Bad Attitude, Cucky. 0.65

04:25:32.000 Versus the Chad, Nick the Knife, Jubilant, Enthusiastic, Happy, Fulfilled, Makes You Think.

04:25:38.000 Sean Tyler, five bucks. 0.93

04:25:40.000 People who care about the God question sufficiently to make a YouTube channel or write books about in 2018 are low IQ brainless. 0.84

04:25:51.000 Erkota, two bucks. 0.53

04:25:52.000 What does JF think about the serious situation?

04:25:54.000 We don't have time for that.

04:25:55.000 Lauren Nythrin, two euro.

04:25:58.000 That's what I'm going to look at it eventually.

04:26:00.000 Yeah, yeah, eventually.

04:26:01.000 We're on hour five.

04:26:02.000 I'm like dying here.

04:26:03.000 Erkota, two bucks.

04:26:04.000 JF and Andy, it's pinky in the brain of the alt right.

04:26:07.000 Ravn guard, two bucks.

04:26:08.000 Andy, are you familiar with what happened at Wacko?

04:26:11.000 Nope.

04:26:12.000 Broadster SD five bucks.

04:26:13.000 How is an individual supposed to defend himself against a tyrannical US government?

04:26:18.000 Two A's should follow for WMDs, aircraft, tanks, etc., for private ownership.

04:26:26.000 And, um, let me stop sharing.

04:26:30.000 Last, what are you doing in my swamp?

04:26:32.000 You should try a voice text program for super chats to stop exhaustion.

04:26:36.000 Yeah, right.

04:26:36.000 Every five seconds, there's going to be no way N words will be in there.

04:26:41.000 But thank you very much.

04:26:42.000 Uh, not the interrupting one is baked.

04:26:44.000 Alaska uses the free copy and paste online.

04:26:47.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

04:26:49.000 But I think they want to hear our personalities.

04:26:53.000 And stop giving a talk about the crowd disagreeing.

04:26:57.000 I'm just joking around.

04:26:58.000 I'm exaggerating.

04:26:59.000 Relax.

04:27:00.000 Yeah, we're performing.

04:27:01.000 Don't you understand?

04:27:03.000 Uh oh. 0.89

04:27:07.000 I definitely just showed the link, but it doesn't fucking matter because we are done. 0.84

04:27:13.000 Yeah. 0.84

04:27:14.000 And the Papa JF is working on a Plan to get coverage for Warski Live in the New York Times.

04:27:22.000 There's going to be an article about how evil I am eventually in the New York Times.

04:27:29.000 I'm telling you, it's getting very close because the person was like, Can I refer to you as co host of Warski Live or biologist? 0.99

04:27:41.000 I said, Both, bitch. 0.99

04:27:42.000 Yeah, there we go. 1.00

04:27:44.000 Yeah, that's how you handle an NYT report.

04:27:47.000 Poor turn. 1.00

04:27:47.000 Piece of shit, NYT sucker. 1.00

04:27:49.000 I'm sorry, I'm just delusional right now. 1.00

04:27:54.000 It's been a long show.

04:27:57.000 I'm dying.

04:27:58.000 Everyone, we will see you all later.

04:28:01.000 I'm going to go pass out, and we'll see you all on the next Worski Live.

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - April 10, 2018

Nick Fuentes vs. Atheism is Unstoppable

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