America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Nick Fuentes vs. Halsey

00:00:00.000 I'm so happy when Nick comes here.

00:00:03.000 Yeah, Nick.

00:00:04.000 How are you doing?

00:00:05.000 How's your show, buddy?

00:00:06.000 It was good.

00:00:07.000 It was good.

00:00:08.000 We just wrapped up a pretty divisive episode.

00:00:12.000 Actually, talking about a lot of what I think we're talking about here tonight.

00:00:15.000 How are you guys doing?

00:00:17.000 Good, man.

00:00:17.000 Excellent.

00:00:18.000 I'm going to throw your link down there in the description bar.

00:00:22.000 And if people want to check it out, just hit refresh and it'll be there.

00:00:25.000 Yeah.

00:00:26.000 So, yeah, the Halsey over here was telling us that you may or may not have been.

00:00:35.000 Trying to avoid contact with him.

00:00:38.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

00:00:40.000 Usually I make it a habit to not waste my time with boomer faggots with no audience, fat boomer faggots with no audience. 1.00

00:00:48.000 So, you know, if I were out giving my time to everybody with 100 subscribers, you know, 100 followers on Twitter, that'd be a long list of people. 1.00

00:00:56.000 So usually it's relevant people with something intelligent to say.

00:00:59.000 So it's true.

00:01:00.000 I hear you.

00:01:01.000 You know what?

00:01:02.000 I actually hear you because unemployed talk show hosts.

00:01:05.000 That look like Richard Dawson actually have a lot of things to do with their time other than answer questions. 1.00

00:01:11.000 And I do love that you don't have time for boomer faggots. 1.00

00:01:15.000 But yet, when I appeared in that one room that time, you said, Oh my God, look who it is. 1.00

00:01:19.000 I told you to go fuck yourself. 1.00

00:01:20.000 And then a whole bunch of people came on telling you, Hey, why don't you come on and challenge me and blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:01:24.000 And you left. 1.00

00:01:25.000 You bounced out after starting with your, Oh, you're a faggot. 1.00

00:01:30.000 I believe what I said was, Why don't you get a tenth of my audience and then we'll talk? 1.00

00:01:34.000 I believe that's what I said.

00:01:35.000 You've yet to meet that challenge.

00:01:37.000 You know, you say I'm unemployed, but You're doing the same thing I'm doing and a lot less successfully.

00:01:43.000 But maybe we'll give you a little bit more time.

00:01:45.000 Maybe you need another 30 years.

00:01:47.000 You already got 30 years on me, right?

00:01:49.000 Or how old are you?

00:01:50.000 Are you 40 or 50?

00:01:52.000 I'm not quite sure.

00:01:54.000 But let's do it.

00:01:55.000 We're here.

00:01:55.000 Let's do it.

00:01:56.000 What's the issue?

00:01:57.000 What's the topic?

00:02:00.000 The alt right.

00:02:00.000 That's the topic.

00:02:01.000 All right.

00:02:02.000 Well, I'm not an alt right. 1.00

00:02:03.000 No, what you are is you're a coward. 0.98

00:02:05.000 You actually go on and you retweet people's stuff and you know you comment on people's comment boxes. 0.99

00:02:10.000 But then all of a sudden, you backpedal when it comes down to it.

00:02:12.000 Well, let's hear it.

00:02:13.000 Well, let's hear it.

00:02:14.000 Let's hear it.

00:02:14.000 I'm not saying, oh, you know, take on the Talmudic fallacies and blah, Let's hear it, sunglasses.

00:02:20.000 So, what's the topic?

00:02:21.000 What's the issue?

00:02:22.000 Okay.

00:02:23.000 Yeah, let's get into it.

00:02:24.000 I just told you what the issue was.

00:02:26.000 All right.

00:02:26.000 You're all right.

00:02:27.000 What about this one? 1.00

00:02:28.000 So, as I said, if you want to just get into it where we're going to say, you know, you're a pathetic faggot, then I think you fit the description a lot better than me. 1.00

00:02:28.000 Okay. 1.00

00:02:35.000 Congratulations.

00:02:36.000 You look like the kind of guy that would go to the glory hall with the blindfold over his mouth and, you know, open wide. 1.00

00:02:42.000 So, if we're going to talk about who looks more like a faggot, That would be you, not me. 1.00

00:02:46.000 Definitely, definitely. 1.00

00:02:47.000 As I said, all right, guys, I'm gonna intervene here.

00:02:50.000 As I said, every time I'd like to intervene with your great platform and all of your followers, you seem to last a couple months and then you get fired.

00:02:58.000 Now, I've seen you come out and work, and I actually thank you.

00:03:03.000 Okay, are we gonna talk about the issue?

00:03:07.000 Are we gonna go out and get fired?

00:03:14.000 There was an accusation, and this needs to be addressed before we talk about the IDs, Nick.

00:03:19.000 It is claimed now that you would have used other nicknames to interact either with ALZI News or elsewhere, where you would be critical of the Jewish people and making comments about Talmudic conspiracies of any kind.

00:03:36.000 Did you ever do that?

00:03:38.000 Other accounts on Twitter?

00:03:39.000 Other aliases?

00:03:40.000 No, that's not true.

00:03:42.000 Okay, so you always tweet in your name and you're never acting anonymously in the back?

00:03:47.000 Never.

00:03:48.000 Always Nick J. Fuentes.

00:03:50.000 So, Halsey, do you have facts that allow you to deny what Nick is claiming now?

00:03:56.000 What I said was that I can't prove it 100%.

00:03:59.000 But when I was arguing with one of his followers, he referenced a conversation that no one else was there for except for me, Nick, and one other person.

00:04:07.000 So the fact that his follower represented this conversation that was quiet and that nobody else knew about because it was in a private DM room, which, as I said, Nick ran like a little child from, then I'm very interested to know how he knew about that conversation.

00:04:21.000 And also, Nick, who had been liking all of his tweets for the entire weekend, all of a sudden jumped in and his comment was, I muted him a long time ago.

00:04:29.000 So, if he muted me so long ago, how did he even know we were still having this conversation?

00:04:33.000 And he jumped right in right when this guy mentioned the conversation.

00:04:37.000 Old man, do you not know how Twitter works?

00:04:40.000 If somebody replies to a tweet that I'm tagged in and he's not muted, but you are, I still see the tweet.

00:04:47.000 I'm very aware.

00:04:48.000 I don't know if you don't know how Twitter works, but that's not really substantive evidence.

00:04:53.000 Are you in any way related to this person you replied to?

00:04:53.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:04:57.000 Do you know him or his activities?

00:04:59.000 No, I know him.

00:04:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:00.000 His name's Marcus Antonius.

00:05:01.000 That's his handle.

00:05:02.000 He's actually the guy that set up my SoundCloud.

00:05:05.000 He downloads those and posts them.

00:05:07.000 So, I mean, this is a real person.

00:05:10.000 There's no evidence that you have.

00:05:12.000 What you have is a weird hunch based on what I think is a misunderstanding of how Twitter.com functions, which it wouldn't be surprising from someone of your age.

00:05:22.000 Okay.

00:05:23.000 As I said, if that's the truth, great.

00:05:25.000 I don't believe you, but that's fine.

00:05:27.000 All right.

00:05:28.000 Let's get into the actual meat of the issue.

00:05:31.000 However, people.

00:05:34.000 Hit that like button for Brett Worski.

00:05:39.000 Hit like Worski.

00:05:41.000 All right. 0.65

00:05:42.000 So, Andy, you wanted us to bring the IDs. 1.00

00:05:45.000 Now, I'm not familiar with Alze.

00:05:48.000 If you take issue with some of the things that Nick has been defending on the public space, from my understanding, Nick, you are not an alt-writer, right?

00:05:56.000 That's correct.

00:05:57.000 Not an alt-right guy.

00:05:58.000 You are a conservative right-wing guy.

00:06:01.000 Yeah, no, I'm not alt-right.

00:06:04.000 I would probably call myself an American nationalist.

00:06:07.000 I think that'd probably be more fitting.

00:06:09.000 And what is your position, Nick, on racial solidarity?

00:06:13.000 Well, I believe that every race has a right to organize in their own collective interests.

00:06:18.000 All right.

00:06:19.000 And as far as did you ever take a position on the Jewish question? 0.85

00:06:23.000 And do you consider that the current media in America is too controlled by Jewish people? 1.00

00:06:29.000 Well, I think it's simply an undeniable fact. 1.00

00:06:32.000 If you look at the data on this, Jewish people are overrepresented in media compared to their.

00:06:37.000 Representative population by 2,000%.

00:06:41.000 And that's simply not comparable with any other racial or religious group.

00:06:44.000 So I don't think it's a question of, you know, are they or are they not?

00:06:48.000 It's simply a fact that they're overrepresented in media.

00:06:52.000 But I don't understand why that fact has any relevance to what you're actually saying because Jewish people are overrepresented in a lot of places that are intellectual endeavors.

00:07:01.000 They tend to go to college more, they tend to go to law school more, they tend to go to medical school more.

00:07:06.000 That's why they're overrepresented in Nobel Prizes as well.

00:07:09.000 So if you are. 0.99

00:07:10.000 If your bitch is that Jewish people are overrepresented in the media, then I would like to hear what your solution is. 0.97

00:07:16.000 Well, the solution which was proposed by Hilaire Belloc back in the early 20th century was simply that of recognition, simply that of recognition that there is a people that is a nomadic people, that is a people that does not identify as white or European or Christian, that recognizes themselves as actually quite alien, and yet they present as very much like ourselves. 0.97

00:07:37.000 And it's actually pretty much illicit, it's pretty taboo to even discuss.

00:07:41.000 Or make mention that they are present or that they are different.

00:07:44.000 And I think simply a recognition of that fact would go a long way.

00:07:47.000 And you say that they're overrepresented in other things.

00:07:49.000 I don't think that's a point in your favor.

00:07:51.000 I think that's a point in my favor.

00:07:53.000 You know, the point you're trying to get across is that, well, they're overrepresented in media and they're also overrepresented in academia, and that means, well, they're smarter or they're more educated.

00:08:02.000 Well, it's simply not true. 0.95

00:08:03.000 If you look at average IQ scores, Episcopalians have a higher IQ than Jews on average.

00:08:09.000 Quakers and Unitarians have a higher IQ than Jews on average, and yet they're not overrepresented in media by 2,000% like Jews are. 0.99

00:08:16.000 That's a bullshit statistic. 0.99

00:08:18.000 Jewish people have come up with the highest scale of IQ anywhere, any study they've ever seen. 1.00

00:08:22.000 What's your source?

00:08:23.000 What's your source?

00:08:24.000 Sure, give me a sec.

00:08:25.000 Be happy to show you one.

00:08:27.000 All right.

00:08:28.000 I would love to see these sources because it's the first time, even as a biologist interested in IQ, it's the first time I hear this claim. 1.00

00:08:34.000 So I'd love to see quicker versus Jews. 0.98

00:08:41.000 The IQ blood sports. 0.99

00:08:46.000 While you look for your thing there, your stat there, I want to thank fucking Celtic Savage being savage today. 0.99

00:08:56.000 With 100 euro, geez, man. 0.97

00:08:58.000 He just says, Ask this boomer, does he think it's acceptable for young European men like me to be looking at the Muslim invasion of Europe and the future of my people and civilization and be prepared to fight these people off politically and violently if necessary?

00:09:16.000 Why would I ever deny their right to do that?

00:09:19.000 I just said that before earlier. 1.00

00:09:20.000 I mean, maybe they weren't watching earlier, but I can't understand why the Europeans wouldn't throw out every single Muslim that comes to their border. 1.00

00:09:27.000 And I have a very good friend, Jada Franson, who's about to go to prison for saying that. 1.00

00:09:31.000 So, no.

00:09:33.000 Where does he live? 0.98

00:09:34.000 She.

00:09:35.000 And she's the one that got in the big tiff because Trump retweeted her stuff from Britain.

00:09:42.000 He got in a big tiff.

00:09:43.000 So, that's Jada Franson.

00:09:44.000 She's the deputy director of Britain First.

00:09:46.000 She's a good friend of mine. 0.99

00:09:47.000 And she's facing trial for calling a Muslim rape gang a Muslim rape gang. 1.00

00:09:50.000 And she's going to go to prison. 0.99

00:09:52.000 Hey, wait, I got a question for you, Halsey. 1.00

00:09:53.000 If you say that you would have no problem with people throwing every Muslim, Output transcript Out of their borders, and you call a Muslim rape gang a Muslim rape gang. 0.99

00:10:01.000 If it's okay to call out Muslims, why is it not okay to call out the Jewish media? 1.00

00:10:05.000 I didn't say it's not okay. 0.85

00:10:06.000 I just said that you should be willing to defend what you're saying and that you should be willing to stand up and say it.

00:10:11.000 I have no problem.

00:10:13.000 I said I don't not only see the over representation, I don't care about it.

00:10:17.000 It doesn't bother me.

00:10:19.000 Why don't you care about it?

00:10:20.000 Because I don't care.

00:10:22.000 I don't think that people can be platformed wherever they want.

00:10:26.000 And I think that if people.

00:10:28.000 Halsey, here's why we care.

00:10:29.000 You recognize how important the media is in a liberal country, right?

00:10:34.000 In a free and liberal society, correct?

00:10:37.000 Yeah.

00:10:37.000 Okay.

00:10:38.000 And you recognize that the media has this great influence over the public.

00:10:42.000 And of course, they have influence in elections because they're the gatekeepers of information, so to speak.

00:10:47.000 And so, don't you think that if a particular group of people or a group that has particular persuasions or prejudices is overrepresented in that powerful and important institution, don't you think it's kind of important who those people are?

00:11:00.000 If it were liberals, I'm sure he would say yes.

00:11:02.000 If it were Muslims, I'm sure he would say yes. 1.00

00:11:04.000 But if it's Jews, well, this is a benign and arbitrary distinction with them and everybody else. 1.00

00:11:10.000 I mean, don't say that. 0.98

00:11:11.000 Number one, I didn't say that, that it was a benign and arbitrary decision.

00:11:15.000 Well, you said you didn't say that.

00:11:16.000 I find it very interesting that a person who says, Why would I give any time to someone who doesn't have a lot of followers, that is now complaining that Jews are overrepresented and not giving any time to you.

00:11:27.000 I see you complaining about something that you seem to do quite a bit.

00:11:30.000 But at the same time, I'm Jewish and you're saying that I'm not popular enough.

00:11:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:36.000 I thought we made that clear.

00:11:46.000 Well, there it is.

00:11:47.000 Well, there it is.

00:11:50.000 You tell the audience why you're laughing.

00:11:50.000 That is.

00:11:53.000 Well, because, I mean, this is so typical.

00:11:56.000 This is so typical. 0.88

00:11:57.000 I mean, every time you have a conservative that's unwilling to talk about, you know, Jewish influence in media or Jewish overrepresentation, you know, nine times out of ten, they're Jewish. 0.85

00:12:06.000 I mean, we talk about this with the alt light. 0.77

00:12:09.000 We talk about this with Fox News.

00:12:10.000 We talk about this with all kinds of conservatives every single time. 0.98

00:12:14.000 When you have one of these boomer cuck servatives, it always tends to be either a Shabbos guy. 0.98

00:12:19.000 I'm a cuck servant.

00:12:21.000 I'm the one that hides from challenges, not me.

00:12:25.000 Secondly, and I love how you keep claiming I'm a boomer, I'm so old.

00:12:29.000 You know, I'm not, yeah, that's great.

00:12:31.000 As I said, you can decide to insult me as much as you want.

00:12:35.000 And the fact that I'm Jewish and the fact that you find that so hilarious, I'm the one who called you out.

00:12:41.000 So I'm the one who wants to debate, and you're the one who says, obviously, debating Jews is not up to your level.

00:12:48.000 Well, where's the debate? 0.97

00:12:51.000 I just told you my argument.

00:12:52.000 I told you my argument. 0.99

00:12:54.000 Me, personally, I think that you are a fraud. 0.84

00:12:58.000 I think that what you do is hide in your criticism. 0.97

00:13:02.000 I think you've been found out, my guy.

00:13:04.000 As they say, I think.

00:13:05.000 Found out?

00:13:06.000 What have I hidden?

00:13:07.000 You've been found out in the sense, well, here's why.

00:13:09.000 Because you say, well, here's why.

00:13:11.000 You say that you don't care that the media, as an overrepresentation of Jews, you don't care that Jews would exert their prejudices in media. 0.70

00:13:20.000 And of course, it's because you yourself, Would benefit from this. 0.68

00:13:24.000 A Muslim would not have a problem if Muslims were running the media. 0.99

00:13:27.000 An Anglo Saxon would not have a problem if Anglo Saxons were running the media and running it in accordance with their interests.

00:13:33.000 And so you are prejudiced.

00:13:34.000 If you fail to disclose your prejudice, how can anybody take anything you've ever said to you?

00:13:39.000 I love that.

00:13:40.000 I fail to disclose it.

00:13:41.000 If you don't realize, I say that I'm Jewish pretty much, I don't know, 30, 40 times a day.

00:13:46.000 I didn't know that. 0.58

00:13:47.000 If you had seen my debate on Sunday night, all I talked about was I am a Jew debating a Nazi about Jews.

00:13:53.000 I wasn't one of the 40 people watching that one.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, keep telling yourself that. 1.00

00:13:57.000 And at the same time, as I said, you and Nayland and all of these people, you love to come out and you love to whine and you love to go like this and you love to sit down and go, oh my God, I can't do good in the world because the Jews are keeping me from saying something. 1.00

00:14:11.000 And then you say it. 1.00

00:14:12.000 And you just get upset that people find you repulsive.

00:14:15.000 I don't think anybody's saying that.

00:14:16.000 That's what you have a problem with.

00:14:17.000 No, no, no.

00:14:18.000 What I came on is that.

00:14:19.000 That's what you have a problem with.

00:14:20.000 What I have a problem with is that they look at you as, as I said, a little Richard Dawson lookalike who likes to come on and go, I'm so upset.

00:14:27.000 And then you say, I'm a conservative.

00:14:30.000 I believe in this. 0.99

00:14:31.000 But yet you get fired from everywhere you are for being a little prick. 0.98

00:14:35.000 Look at this. 0.94

00:14:35.000 So, as I said, I can't make it. 0.94

00:14:40.000 Let's hear Nick.

00:14:41.000 Let Nick respond.

00:14:42.000 Look at these.

00:14:43.000 Well, first of all, I mean.

00:14:44.000 We JS, same wavelength there.

00:14:48.000 I'm absolutely floored at the evasion tactics, which is that, I mean, when you're discovered, it turns into, you know, the name calling and everything else.

00:14:56.000 Well, here's what I came on and said.

00:14:57.000 I didn't come on and say, you know, they're keeping us down and, you know, we can't say, I said there's an overrepresentation, and when there's this kind of prejudice, it leads to adverse consequences.

00:15:07.000 Nobody said anything about, you know, oh, woe is me, we can't get our message out there.

00:15:12.000 What I came on here and said very simply is that you have this overrepresentation, and it has adverse consequences because, you know, and this is why the Talmud becomes very important.

00:15:23.000 If you have a Christian civilization, you have a civilization that is built on the Catholic Church, that's built on Christianity, and you have people that are overrepresented in media in this very important institution who have these.

00:15:35.000 Significant religious prejudices against Jesus Christ, as documented in the Babylonian Talmud in the year 200.

00:15:41.000 I mean, these were the people, it's written in the New Testament, these were the ones that rejected Christ, that condemned Christ to die.

00:15:48.000 And of course, that is why we Christians cannot afford to be apathetic about who controls the media.

00:15:54.000 And to go back to the book.

00:15:56.000 I love the comparison of the Catholic Church with morality.

00:15:59.000 That is a really, really good one. 0.75

00:16:01.000 If we're founded on a Catholic Church, which doesn't allow our priests to reproduce, who are supposedly our best in our society, so the fact that they all get busted, diddling little boys, which is probably what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is that the Babylonian Talmud doesn't say anything about Jesus really. 1.00

00:16:18.000 And at the same time, I am more than happy to say that Jews reject the Christ. 0.99

00:16:23.000 It's called being a different religion. 1.00

00:16:25.000 Secondly, I love how you're willing to say, oh, Jews have nothing to offer. 0.99

00:16:29.000 But at the same time, you're pointing to a Jew and saying, oh, look, if it's based on his philosophy, then everything is all hunky dory. 0.84

00:16:36.000 Well, wouldn't you say there was an over representation in the beginning of Jews and Christianity, considering all of them were Jewish? 0.91

00:16:42.000 This is before. 0.90

00:16:43.000 If you're trying to draw a comparison between Christian civilization having what really in practice constitutes a fifth column controlling its media. 0.67

00:16:53.000 To pre Christian times, that's not really an accurate comparison. 0.76

00:16:58.000 You're the one who brought it to pre Christian times, not me.

00:17:01.000 You're the ones who said, oh, in the year 200, Jews decided this. 0.80

00:17:06.000 And you somehow brought it up till now.

00:17:08.000 200 is not true.

00:17:09.000 If you just study the times of 200 years ago.

00:17:12.000 Do you know what 200 AD means?

00:17:14.000 Do you know what 200 Anno Demani means?

00:17:16.000 It means 200 years after the birth of Jesus. 0.81

00:17:18.000 That is not pre Christian times. 0.77

00:17:20.000 Big guy, big fella, you're having some trouble here.

00:17:23.000 I'm sorry.

00:17:25.000 I misspoke.

00:17:26.000 And as I said, who's evading now, Nick?

00:17:28.000 And also, I misspoke.

00:17:31.000 Because, as I said, the Babylonian Talmud, which was written in 200 AD.

00:17:36.000 Yeah.

00:17:37.000 And the Babylonian Talmud.

00:17:39.000 You were the one who brought it into the conversation.

00:17:42.000 You said, all of a sudden, I'm the one who's referencing back to those times when you're the one who brought it into the conversation.

00:17:48.000 No, no, no.

00:17:49.000 You're a false comparison.

00:17:50.000 It's a false comparison.

00:17:51.000 But anyway, I mean, it looks like you're just not able to keep up here with what I'm saying.

00:17:55.000 But in the Babylonian Talmud, you say that Jesus Christ is not really even mentioned.

00:18:00.000 That's actually quite incorrect.

00:18:02.000 In contrast with the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud, it actually details pretty graphically, in a pretty blasphemous way, how Jesus Christ is boiling in excrement and semen in hell, how he's going to hell, how all his followers are going to hell, how he was an adulterer and his mother was an adulterer.

00:18:21.000 So these are some pretty nasty things that are said in your holy book, in the holy book of the people, overrepresented in media.

00:18:29.000 And again, these are people overrepresented, not in Israeli media.

00:18:33.000 Not in Chinese media.

00:18:35.000 And you say, well, oh, well, it's called having a different religion. 0.98

00:18:38.000 Well, maybe that would be one thing if it were Buddhists. 0.99

00:18:42.000 I wouldn't see so much of an issue if it were Buddhists because Buddhists don't have, I mean, they did not take responsibility for the blood of the savior of the religion of this civilization. 0.97

00:18:52.000 You understand why that's kind of a crucial difference. 0.95

00:18:54.000 And now we can get into the real point of it, which is that you have no idea what you're fucking talking about because the Jerusalem Talmud was the one that was written in 200 AD, the Babylonian Talmud was written in 500 AD.

00:19:05.000 And the part that you're referring to, you know the difference between AD and a couple hundred years ago, Nick, right? 0.86

00:19:11.000 But secondly, the part that you're referring to says that idol worshipers are suffering anything about Christians.

00:19:19.000 In fact, it had nothing to do with Christians.

00:19:21.000 It had to do with idol worshipers.

00:19:22.000 That's wrong.

00:19:23.000 Oh, if what you're saying is that Christians are idol worshipers, then it's a problem with your belief, not mine.

00:19:30.000 That's actually incorrect.

00:19:31.000 I mean, if I've actually read the Babylonian Talmud, which you have not, obviously.

00:19:36.000 And it's.

00:19:36.000 Daily Stormer puts online.

00:19:39.000 But you didn't even know when it was written.

00:19:41.000 You were talking about the Babylonian Talmud written in 200 AD, not the Jerusalem one. 0.75

00:19:45.000 You're right.

00:19:45.000 I got them.

00:19:45.000 You're right.

00:19:46.000 You're right.

00:19:47.000 I got the two dates mixed up.

00:19:48.000 You're right.

00:19:49.000 Oh, wait a minute.

00:19:50.000 All of a sudden, you don't know what you're talking about.

00:19:52.000 No, you're right.

00:19:52.000 It just oops, it was a misspoke.

00:19:55.000 You're right.

00:19:56.000 I misspoke on the dates.

00:19:57.000 But look, I mean, the record is out there for anybody that wants to read.

00:20:00.000 Notice he doesn't comment on it.

00:20:01.000 Do your research just like an anti vaxxer does.

00:20:04.000 They come out and they say, no, I'm not that.

00:20:07.000 You have to go out and type it into Google in order to get the proper answer.

00:20:11.000 All right.

00:20:12.000 I need a chance to respond.

00:20:14.000 You need a chance to respond.

00:20:15.000 Thank you.

00:20:16.000 You can look up a book called Jesus and the Talmud called Peter Schaefer, which I read, which details pretty extensively the guy.

00:20:23.000 As a scholar on this stuff, where Jesus Christ appears in the Talmud.

00:20:26.000 And also, I mean, your claim that this was about idol worshipers is just simply not true.

00:20:31.000 It is simply not true.

00:20:32.000 The Babylonian Talmud specifically references Jesus Christ and his mother and himself and his followers.

00:20:39.000 So prove it then.

00:20:40.000 I don't have the citation in front of me, but again, you can check out in the book.

00:20:43.000 Of course you don't, because you've never read it.

00:20:45.000 Jesus is Talmud.

00:20:48.000 What you have read is an anti Semitic book that was written by a fraud. 0.78

00:20:53.000 And now you're the one claiming this as being fact, even though you've never read it yourself. 0.61

00:20:57.000 I have read it.

00:20:58.000 That's what I love.

00:20:59.000 You're sitting here never reading it yourself and claiming knowledge that you don't have.

00:21:04.000 That is the game of God, Nick, just like myself.

00:21:08.000 Okay, if you have contention with what he's saying, at least let him finish his statement.

00:21:13.000 Thank you.

00:21:14.000 Thank you.

00:21:14.000 And you have to do this thing yourself.

00:21:17.000 After doing summary research, and I'm not a scholar on this issue, Wikipedia states, The Talmud contains passages that some scholars have concluded are reference to Christian traditions about Jesus through the mention of an individual called Yeshu, a derivative of Jesus' Aramaic name, Yeshua.

00:21:36.000 Yes, thank you.

00:21:37.000 And, you know, look, Halsey has to rely on bluster.

00:21:41.000 Halsey has to rely on the yelling and the screaming.

00:21:44.000 I have to rely on bluster. 1.00

00:21:45.000 You came in and said faggot and all of this, and I rely on bluster. 1.00

00:21:50.000 I was willing to have a normal, quiet conversation with you, and you couldn't do it. 1.00

00:21:55.000 I couldn't tell you.

00:21:57.000 Sorry.

00:21:57.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:21:58.000 Quiet.

00:21:59.000 You aren't letting him finish one sentence.

00:22:01.000 I'm going to have the mute button on you.

00:22:05.000 And the moment you open your mouth, I'm going to do that until Nick is done speaking.

00:22:09.000 Then you can talk and then you can say whatever you need to say.

00:22:11.000 All right, man?

00:22:12.000 Go ahead.

00:22:13.000 But I mean, do you see?

00:22:14.000 And there's your case in point.

00:22:16.000 These are the tricks that people like Halsey have to rely on.

00:22:20.000 These are the tricks that they have to rely on, where things that anybody can Google, anybody can look up. 0.78

00:22:25.000 They say things like, oh, you know, Well, the Jews are the most intelligent people in the world. 0.77

00:22:29.000 And, you know, these are things that you can look up for yourself.

00:22:32.000 You can look at the SAT scores.

00:22:33.000 You can look at the IQ tests.

00:22:35.000 Simply not true.

00:22:36.000 When he makes a claim that, oh, the only passage in the Babylonian Talmud is about idol worshipers, you can look it up.

00:22:42.000 You can look in multiple textbooks.

00:22:43.000 You can look in the Babylonian Talmud itself.

00:22:45.000 You can look in Wikipedia, as JF did, and you can find that it's simply not true.

00:22:49.000 And this is what they will do they will obfuscate.

00:22:52.000 They will say anything.

00:22:53.000 They will do anything to achieve what they want.

00:22:56.000 And just think about, What he said earlier when he said he doesn't care about Jewish over representation in media.

00:23:01.000 Of course he doesn't care.

00:23:02.000 Of course he doesn't care. 0.99

00:23:04.000 I wouldn't care if the over representation were of Christians. 0.95

00:23:06.000 He cares if it were Muslims in over representation in the media because Muslims don't like Jewish people. 0.96

00:23:11.000 Well, Jewish people, not wild about Christians. 0.89

00:23:14.000 And there it is. 0.98

00:23:15.000 There it is.

00:23:17.000 All right.

00:23:18.000 Halsey.

00:23:19.000 So, as I will reply, JF read the citation where he said some scholars.

00:23:24.000 He didn't say all scholars.

00:23:26.000 And this is a book that's widely available.

00:23:28.000 So, as I said, if there's a disagreement, As to whether Jesus is mentioned in the Talmud, he's stating it as fact that Jesus is mentioned in the Talmud.

00:23:36.000 As I said, I have read the passage that he's talking about, which distinctly says idol worshipers and has no mention of Yeshua.

00:23:44.000 So, at the same time, he's claiming something that just isn't true.

00:23:49.000 And as I said, I rely on bluster. 1.00

00:23:51.000 I was the one who was willing to have a civil discussion, and you came in with faggot and all of this, which is fine if that's how you feel. 1.00

00:23:58.000 But at the same time, I don't really give a shit about an overrepresentation. 1.00

00:24:02.000 I care about what that overrepresentation means. 0.95

00:24:05.000 And what you're hinting at and what you're trying to portray is that the overrepresentation shows collusion, which you have no proof of. 0.52

00:24:12.000 You have no proof that the Jews have their secret Jew meeting and they sit down and talk to each other. 0.63

00:24:17.000 And they decide this is our plan of action. 0.87

00:24:19.000 See, you're straw manning me.

00:24:21.000 You're straw manning me here.

00:24:22.000 And this is another technique that you have to rely on.

00:24:25.000 This is the technique that, well, no, this was just written.

00:24:28.000 Alan Dershowitz just wrote an article about this a couple of weeks ago.

00:24:31.000 He said, Do Jews control the world?

00:24:33.000 And everybody gave him a big round of applause for proving that Jewish people, you know, they don't have these secret conspiratorial meetings, although they do have a World Zionist Congress.

00:24:43.000 He proved that, well, Jews don't actually control the world.

00:24:47.000 People like myself or others, I guess I can't speak for others, but people like myself have an issue with. 0.96

00:24:52.000 We don't believe that they get together and have these little meetings, although, you know, they certainly do have the World Zionist Congress, but we do believe that there is a hyper in group preference among Jewish people that can be observed. 0.90

00:25:03.000 They have a group evolutionary strategy where they prefer their own over other people, where, you know, compared to any other civilization, but particularly Europeans, where Europeans are individualists, where Europeans have this kind of selflessness, they are.

00:25:19.000 More liberal, they are a more open society. 1.00

00:25:21.000 With Jews, it's the opposite. 1.00

00:25:22.000 It's a closed society, it's an authoritarian society, and it is one that prefers their own over others. 1.00

00:25:27.000 It's nepotistic.

00:25:28.000 And again, if you're trying to say that the reason they're overrepresented, the reason that, you know, you look at CNN, and here, let me pull up because this stuff is wild.

00:25:37.000 Like people wouldn't believe it.

00:25:38.000 While Nick picks this up, I'd like to add a little bit to Nick's answer.

00:25:43.000 First, I agree, it is traumatizing to say that Nick necessitates to demonstrate a link of conspiracy, because that's not what he claimed.

00:25:53.000 He didn't claim there is conspiratorial work in the media by Jewish people. 0.65

00:25:58.000 He claims it's not necessarily a good idea in a Christian nation to have so many people with such in group preferences. 0.81

00:26:05.000 That's my first point. 0.87

00:26:06.000 The second point I will say to you, Alze, you claim that there is no evidence of conspiratorial, uh, actions.

00:26:14.000 There is, since we have the emails of John Podesta, we have strong evidence that there are Jewish billionaires Who control aspects of politics in America, including media, and especially media, through large, very large donations?

00:26:30.000 Do you deny that these conspiratory actions have occurred from the John Podesta records? 0.71

00:26:37.000 I don't deny it at all. 0.65

00:26:38.000 And what I'm saying is that it showed non Jewish large donations as well, just like it's shown large donations of Jews to right wing causes.

00:26:46.000 What I'm saying is the fact that they're Jewish is not the primary deciding factor of where they lie in society. 0.56

00:26:53.000 What I'm saying is that the majority of them, especially on the left, could care less about the fact that they're Jewish unless it's to come up with a leftist point of view, which is what all leftists do, even the white ones.

00:27:03.000 And what I'm liking also is that I say that Jews don't control the world.

00:27:08.000 If you're saying they do, then you're saying that the Jews are a superior society to your supposedly humane, advanced Christian society, which I don't really understand either. 0.99

00:27:18.000 If you're saying they control the world, but yet at the same time, they don't work well, then. 0.96

00:27:24.000 I explicitly said that's not what I'm saying.

00:27:28.000 Okay, so then explain further, please.

00:27:29.000 I don't think you heard me. 0.68

00:27:31.000 So, what I was about to say, what I was about to lay out was just to give you a little taste, and there's so much evidence here, but just to give you a little flavor for how in depth the Jewish control of an institution like CNN is, let's look at Jewish people in CNN. 0.84

00:27:31.000 Yeah. 0.84

00:27:49.000 The parent company of CNN has a Jewish president and a Jewish majority of C level executives.

00:27:54.000 CNN has a Jewish president, a Jewish vice president.

00:27:58.000 The majority of executive vice presidents are Jewish.

00:28:00.000 Their lead political anchor is Jewish.

00:28:02.000 Their chief political correspondent is Jewish.

00:28:05.000 Their chief political analyst is Jewish.

00:28:07.000 Their chief political director, their chief national correspondent, their chief Washington correspondent, and all six of their chief anchor positions.

00:28:13.000 Now, this is one institution.

00:28:15.000 This is one example.

00:28:16.000 They are 2% of the population, 60% of all elite media positions.

00:28:21.000 And look, you know, people can say that's because they're educated, that's because they're intelligent.

00:28:26.000 But if we look at the data on IQ and religious groups or ethnic groups, you look at, for example, the SAT scores in 2002, the highest SAT score for religious groups was Unitarians. 0.55

00:28:39.000 With an average score of 1209, it was 1161 for Jews.

00:28:43.000 If you look at the SAT scores in 1990, for Unitarians, it was 1073, for Quakers, 1037, for Jews, 1030. 0.70

00:28:50.000 If you look at the general social survey, Episcopalians had an average IQ of 109 compared to Ashkenazi Jews, of also 109. 0.78

00:29:00.000 Now, Quakers, Unitarians, Episcopalians, they are similarly a small percentage of the population, 1% to 3% on each of those, and yet none of them even scratch, they don't even come close. 0.78

00:29:11.000 To 2,000 percent, do you know that blacks are not even 2,000 percent represented in violent crimes?

00:29:17.000 You know, the Muslims are not even 2,000 percent represented in terrorism compared to Jewish people, 2,000 percent represented in media. 0.61

00:29:25.000 And it is something that is just so unexplainable. 0.91

00:29:28.000 But then, when you look at it with their 5,000 year history or however long they've been around, their thousand year history of hyper nationalism, hyper ethnic nationalism, this hyper in group preference, and then you look at the Podest emails, that's one good example.

00:29:43.000 Where they have this in group preference and they favor one over the other.

00:29:46.000 The Rothschild's Bank, the reason it was so successful when it was founded in the late 18th century was because David Rothschild was able to send his kids all over Europe to the great capitals and they can trust each other with their money.

00:29:58.000 They can trust each other with their accounting practices because they have that high trust society.

00:30:03.000 And so that is what we're getting at.

00:30:05.000 We're not getting at some, they're the boogeyman, they control the earth.

00:30:09.000 Nobody's talking about that.

00:30:10.000 We're talking about things that we can prove.

00:30:13.000 Empirically, things we can prove historically, things we can prove sociologically, and the evidence is all there.

00:30:18.000 And you're saying, you know, oh, it doesn't matter.

00:30:20.000 Oh, I don't care.

00:30:21.000 It's this, it's that.

00:30:21.000 Who cares?

00:30:23.000 When these things really matter, because the media is a very important and influential institution, it matters who runs that institution, especially when it's people that may have resentment towards the host country that they're in.

00:30:35.000 Okay.

00:30:36.000 Well, as I said, you can say that and you can go off on the fact that there's an overrepresentation of Jews, but you cannot prove that there is any kind of causality of that overrepresentation that they're pursuing a Jewish interest. 0.68

00:30:47.000 Especially when the leftist Jews are the ones that are probably the most detrimental to the Jewish population by pushing Muslim multiculturalism and pushing practices on Israel that could actually create an Arab invasion. 0.67

00:30:59.000 So, as you were saying, huh? 0.88

00:31:01.000 Go ahead, you can finish.

00:31:03.000 So, what I'm saying is that you're trying to make this comparison that because there's a lot of Jews in media, that it's their Jewishness that is the overriding factor of how they believe and who they trust.

00:31:14.000 But it's just not borne out by any kind of practicality.

00:31:20.000 Well, here's the interest.

00:31:21.000 Here's the interest, Halsey.

00:31:23.000 It's not an explicitly Jewish religious interest or an overtly Jewish ethnic interest, but here is why they stand to gain, for example, when they donate all this money to the Democratic Party, when 50% of all donations to the Democratic Party come from Jewish people and Jewish people support mass migration and they support wars for Israel and on and on.

00:31:45.000 Here is the interest that is overriding there. 0.71

00:31:47.000 If we understand Jewish people in modern Western civilization, What is the contrast? 0.57

00:31:53.000 What are the cleavages between Europeans and Jewish people? 0.97

00:31:57.000 Well, Jewish people are a nomadic people. 0.92

00:32:00.000 They don't have a geographic entity, or at least since the first century, they have not had a geographic state. 0.98

00:32:06.000 So these are a nomadic people.

00:32:08.000 They move around, they are a worldly people.

00:32:10.000 Since the diaspora, you have Jews in every major world city. 0.94

00:32:13.000 And what occupations do they take up because of, whether it's usury laws or other things? 0.98

00:32:18.000 They take up things like accounting, finance, media.

00:32:21.000 Maybe this is where the high verbal IQ comes from. 0.90

00:32:24.000 And so you look at these cleavages, you look at these contrasts, and you look at the Jew in European civilization as an outsider, as fundamentally and always an outsider, resistant to assimilation. 0.90

00:32:35.000 And you look at what their interests are as an outsider. 0.80

00:32:37.000 Well, might it make sense why they would support the Democrats?

00:32:40.000 The Democrats who are anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-homophobia, anti-antisemitism. 0.74

00:32:48.000 The reason that they adopt the position of mass migration and this anti-white, anti-host country position is because if the If the host population is not unified, if the host population does not have a coherent identity, if they do not have a coherent interest, well, then the Jewish person is safe. 0.64

00:33:07.000 Who is the safest in a multicultural society when there's no coherent identity, when there's no coherent Christian identity? 0.92

00:33:14.000 The Jewish person stands to gain from this. 1.00

00:33:16.000 And that's not to say that doesn't make them a bad people, by the way.

00:33:19.000 That's their evolutionary group interest, and they pursue it very successfully.

00:33:24.000 But we simply have to recognize that as antithetical, sometimes antithetical to the national interest.

00:33:30.000 Of the country where they reside in. 0.51

00:33:32.000 And to not recognize that, to say, we don't care or it doesn't exist, well, that is only symptomatic of the very thing that you're trying to deny.

00:33:42.000 Well, funny enough, I didn't deny it.

00:33:43.000 I almost said that word for word earlier in the presentation that there are a lot of Jews who believe that multiculturalism is a good thing because it keeps them safe.

00:33:53.000 As I said, the Jewish minority in America is the only one that has successfully integrated to the point, but yet has remained different due to rejection of them integrating. 0.61

00:34:03.000 Jewish people were rejected from joining Protestant banks, so they formed their own.

00:34:07.000 And then people say, oh my God, Goldman Sachs is 100% Jewish.

00:34:10.000 Well, that's why they founded Goldman Sachs, because no one would give them jobs doing anything else. 0.92

00:34:14.000 I said that earlier in the program.

00:34:18.000 So I have no problem with the idea that Jews look out for Jews. 0.99

00:34:22.000 I have no problem that Jews look out for non Jews. 0.61

00:34:25.000 I have no problem that Jews have their own policies. 1.00

00:34:28.000 I don't think they think coherently. 1.00

00:34:30.000 I think groups of Jews think coherently, just like groups of Catholics, groups of Christians. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Which, by the way, Christians and Catholics have never thought coherently until recently.

00:34:39.000 In fact, when Kennedy was elected, everyone couldn't believe that a Catholic was actually elected in a Christian society.

00:34:44.000 Now you have grouped yourself into that group of Christians by saying, I'm a Catholic, therefore I'm a Christian. 0.75

00:34:51.000 But Christians and Catholics have hated each other more than anyone.

00:34:54.000 The Klan targeted Catholics just as much as they've targeted Jews.

00:34:58.000 Well, let's unpack this. 0.69

00:35:00.000 First of all, you say, I don't care if the Jews pursue their own interests. 0.99

00:35:05.000 Maybe because you are a Jew pursuing his own interests to the detriment of the country. 0.96

00:35:10.000 Yeah, you know, that's weird that you in particular wouldn't have a problem with that, you know, but for the little people, for, you know, the people. 0.99

00:35:16.000 But again, how am I doing it to the detriment of this country?

00:35:19.000 I don't work with leftists.

00:35:20.000 I don't work with leftists. 1.00

00:35:22.000 I don't work with leftist Jews. 0.93

00:35:23.000 I don't believe in multiculturalism.

00:35:26.000 In fact, I happen to agree with Donald Trump on most things.

00:35:28.000 Can I answer your question?

00:35:29.000 Do you want me to answer your question?

00:35:30.000 Why do you do that?

00:35:31.000 Okay. 0.76

00:35:31.000 Well, because even Jewish people who are not leftists, even Jewish people who are not advocating for mass immigration or advocating for policies antithetical to the country, people like yourself stand in the way of honest to goodness people in this country waking up to why the media acts in the way it does, why the banks act in the way that they do. 0.76

00:35:51.000 Because even though maybe you're not.

00:35:53.000 Thinking along the same lines as them in terms of immigration and all these other things.

00:35:58.000 Maybe you disagree on how your clan is going to survive.

00:36:01.000 You still will go out there and call people like myself who want to show the facts to people. 1.00

00:36:06.000 You'll call us bigots, trash, scumbags. 1.00

00:36:09.000 Nobody look at this. 1.00

00:36:10.000 This is lunacy.

00:36:11.000 And you'll come on here and you'll say, Oh, no, actually, I acknowledge it.

00:36:14.000 Actually, if you weren't paying attention, actually, I said this.

00:36:17.000 But it's no secret that people like yourself, you get on my case, you get on people like myself, you get on our case for putting these facts out there, innocently putting the facts out there for.

00:36:27.000 It is a really good one.

00:36:29.000 That's a really good one.

00:36:31.000 I'm the one who called you out on a debate.

00:36:33.000 I'm the one who called you out on a debate.

00:36:36.000 I want you to put your ideas out there.

00:36:39.000 I am a free speech absolutist. 0.82

00:36:41.000 I think the best thing that can happen to this country is people like you getting out there and talking because I know that the majority of the country, whether it be Jew, whether it be whites, whether it be anyone, the vast majority of the country finds you repulsive. 0.97

00:36:56.000 So I'm really okay with that. 0.97

00:36:58.000 Okay, well, good.

00:37:00.000 And so I am more than happy with you getting out there and spewing your message to anyone who will listen to it.

00:37:06.000 Because as I find you spewing it more and not running and hiding behind, oh, my subs, you know, that you're able to sit there and get your message out there because I believe people will find it repulsive.

00:37:19.000 I believe that people will find it as repulsive as I find you.

00:37:22.000 Well, again, I'm more than happy with you getting on CNN and spewing your message.

00:37:27.000 I would like that.

00:37:28.000 Because I would love for you to get on there and claim the Babylonian Talmud says this.

00:37:33.000 But then all of a sudden, when you look it up, it says, wow, it actually doesn't say this.

00:37:37.000 It says it's about idol worshipers.

00:37:38.000 I don't know any idol worshipers.

00:37:40.000 Maybe he's calling himself one.

00:37:42.000 I like the idea of you getting out there and spreading your message, which you seem to find funny.

00:37:48.000 I do.

00:37:48.000 I want you out there spreading your message.

00:37:50.000 Halsey, Halsey, you're laughing now, but you won't be laughing soon.

00:37:54.000 Once you realize the gravity of the situation, I don't think you'll be laughing.

00:37:57.000 I don't realize the gravity of the situation.

00:37:59.000 I'm a much better shot than you, my friend.

00:38:01.000 See, you're saying that when the war comes, you're going to be on the right side.

00:38:06.000 I would just welcome that challenge.

00:38:09.000 Well, we'll see what happens, my guy.

00:38:09.000 We'll see.

00:38:10.000 We'll see what happens.

00:38:11.000 But I mean, unless I'm down for that 100%.

00:38:15.000 I think we acknowledge all the facts here.

00:38:17.000 I think you've acknowledged all the facts, even if you disagree with their consequences.

00:38:21.000 You still want to call me names because, you know, I guess that's all I got left.

00:38:25.000 But I guess, again, I'm the one calling names.

00:38:28.000 Let's ask Bask one thing.

00:38:30.000 You just said when the war comes.

00:38:33.000 Mm hmm.

00:38:34.000 Okay, so what are we talking there?

00:38:37.000 Yeah.

00:38:38.000 Obviously, he's calling for a war. 0.96

00:38:40.000 He's saying that there will be a violent uprising against Jews. 0.96

00:38:42.000 What? 0.89

00:38:43.000 I'm saying if that war comes, I will be on the other side.

00:38:46.000 Is that what you said, Nick?

00:38:48.000 No.

00:38:49.000 And I believe if you were listening earlier, I referenced the book Hilaire Belloc, a great Catholic historian.

00:38:59.000 And he wrote a book about this.

00:39:00.000 He called it the Jews.

00:39:01.000 And he actually spoke out against anti Semitism.

00:39:03.000 I don't consider myself.

00:39:05.000 I don't consider Jews to be bad people.

00:39:09.000 I don't judge them on a general basis.

00:39:11.000 But I mean, as a civilization, we have to generalize to some degree.

00:39:14.000 But Hillary Belloc said that the solution was simply an acknowledgement, simply a recognition that there is us and there is them.

00:39:21.000 There are Europeans and there are Jewish people.

00:39:23.000 There are Christians and there are Jewish people.

00:39:25.000 And that doesn't mean that we can't cohabitate.

00:39:27.000 That doesn't mean that we can't live together.

00:39:29.000 You know, I believe that to some extent it's inevitable.

00:39:33.000 And Hillary Belloc talks about this where the Jews were expelled at many different times and places and, you know, maybe 108 different times. 0.87

00:39:40.000 And, you know, we'll leave it to the audit to decide who is responsible.

00:39:43.000 Is it the host or is it the People that's kicked out 108 times.

00:39:46.000 But he said that inevitably they're going to live together.

00:39:49.000 The best solution is just to acknowledge that there are these disparate peoples with disparate interests and simply to recognize that.

00:39:55.000 And that's all I'm calling for here is to say that when we hear people in the media that say, I'm white and I'm ashamed of myself for being white, I'm ashamed for being white, and then it turns out that they're celebrating Passover, they're celebrating Hanukkah, there simply has to be some honesty.

00:40:11.000 There simply has to be a recognition that some people in the media, when they put out these positions presenting as, you know, I'm this white American, I'm concerned about.

00:40:19.000 White America, Christian America, and it actually turns out that they have a very different allegiance.

00:40:23.000 And that's all we're calling for is honesty.

00:40:26.000 But I don't understand where I haven't been honest about that point.

00:40:29.000 I'm not talking about you.

00:40:31.000 I just said very clearly, again, right in the beginning, that I don't consider myself white.

00:40:37.000 I don't know what other people consider me, but I don't come out and talk about white people as if white people need to do this or white people need to do that.

00:40:46.000 I'm not talking about you.

00:40:48.000 But what I'm saying is that, no, what you're talking about is when someone comes out on the left. 0.51

00:40:52.000 And says, I believe in this and I'm white, and therefore that the fact that they're Jewish is the overriding factor in what they're saying, as opposed to the fact that they're on the left, because a white leftist would say the same thing, a black leftist would say the same thing.

00:41:05.000 They all tend to say, as a black person, I believe this, or as a white person, I believe this. 0.51

00:41:10.000 Jews on the left all consider themselves white. 0.79

00:41:13.000 They don't consider themselves Jewish. 1.00

00:41:14.000 And that's why. 0.93

00:41:16.000 Okay.

00:41:16.000 That's correct.

00:41:17.000 Okay.

00:41:17.000 A good point.

00:41:18.000 And you know what?

00:41:18.000 I'm actually going to give that to you for a sec, because I do believe that not all of them consider themselves white.

00:41:24.000 They consider themselves white Jews.

00:41:26.000 Where they consider themselves, a lot of them consider themselves white. 0.60

00:41:29.000 I don't consider myself white.

00:41:30.000 I consider myself as a person who does advocate for my own interests.

00:41:34.000 Well, but you have to understand.

00:41:36.000 But I don't acknowledge when I've been acknowledging what you said.

00:41:40.000 I'm not talking about you, though.

00:41:42.000 I'm not talking.

00:41:43.000 You keep saying, oh, well, I don't do this. 0.81

00:41:45.000 Well, but you are not representative of the 2,000% over representation of Jews. 0.96

00:41:50.000 I mean, you're not.

00:41:51.000 But you're claiming they are representative of Jewish people. 1.00

00:41:55.000 You're the one who's saying that. 0.92

00:41:56.000 Brian Roberts.

00:41:58.000 They're talking about yourself.

00:41:59.000 You're not representative of the left or the right or the people in the media.

00:42:04.000 But you were saying that the people that are in the media that are Jewish are representative of Jews, which, as you just acknowledged, if there's maybe a couple hundred of them, I would be surprised, as just the numbers bear out, as there's not that many people employed in high level positions in the media.

00:42:19.000 So if they're overrepresented, I'd about to number more.

00:42:23.000 Okay, let's say it's 10,000.

00:42:25.000 The number is irrelevant to me as a person of the population.

00:42:25.000 I don't care.

00:42:29.000 What I'm saying is that you're pointing to the fact that they're Jewish.

00:42:33.000 As that they are representative of Jews, but then anyone who disagrees with them is not a representative of Jews.

00:42:38.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:42:39.000 That's not what you said.

00:42:40.000 You said we need to acknowledge that this over representation leads to a coherent strategy and a coherent policy where these people are advocating for X.

00:42:49.000 And it's not proven that they are a monolith.

00:42:51.000 Wrong.

00:42:54.000 Nobody said that Jake Tapper was representative of all Jews.

00:42:57.000 I never said that. 0.82

00:42:58.000 I said there has to be a recognition that when a Jewish person is saying something, That they're not white and they're not Christian and that they consider themselves outsiders. 0.66

00:43:07.000 That's all I said. 0.98

00:43:08.000 Not that anyone is representative. 0.99

00:43:10.000 I had a lot of friends at Daily Wire who are Jewish, and I never saw them as any different.

00:43:16.000 But when they talked about Israel, for example, I said, okay, well, here is somebody who's prejudiced.

00:43:21.000 When you hear, like, Jeff Zucker and the way he runs CNN and the way they advocate for immigration against Donald Trump, you say, oh, well, that is a Jewish person and they have certain prejudices.

00:43:31.000 And we recognize it with every other people, by the way.

00:43:34.000 We recognize it with every other people that is advocating for a policy which serves their own group's interests. 0.57

00:43:41.000 Because of the nature of race, usually we can tell if a Chinese person is advocating a policy favorable to Chinese, we say, you know, okay, well, we kind of read into it, I think, almost by default to prejudice. 0.94

00:43:51.000 But because Jewish people, either knowingly or unknowingly, consciously or unconsciously, or maybe they just don't do a very good job of it, they present themselves as white. 0.89

00:44:01.000 They present themselves as, you know, we're a part of this. 1.00

00:44:04.000 You should take my word for it.

00:44:05.000 We have this credibility.

00:44:06.000 We are like you.

00:44:08.000 But then when push comes to shove, very different allegiances.

00:44:11.000 And again, And again, I mean, this is not immoral on their part.

00:44:17.000 This is their reason, their national interest, so to speak.

00:44:22.000 This is the national interest of the Jewish people.

00:44:25.000 And that's not immoral for them to pursue it.

00:44:26.000 But for us to survive, for white Christian Americans to survive in this century, we have to recognize that there's a divergent interest there. 0.57

00:44:35.000 And you keep pointing out, like, oh, it's left wing and right wing. 0.80

00:44:38.000 Because you'll have just as easily right wing Jews advocating against the interests of this country when they talk about war against Iran. 0.94

00:44:38.000 It's both. 0.94

00:44:45.000 And war against Iraq, and war against Libya, and war against Egypt and Syria and Lebanon, and every other country known to man in the Middle East. 0.89

00:44:52.000 And the same is true with the left wing Jews who talk about mass immigration and all these other things.

00:44:57.000 So, like, there's any distinction, but there's always the prejudice.

00:45:00.000 There's always the prejudice.

00:45:01.000 Have to be mindful of it.

00:45:02.000 That's all.

00:45:03.000 I agree that you have to be mindful of the prejudice. 0.97

00:45:06.000 What I'm saying is that you're not acknowledging by saying Christians are a monolith in that white Christians represent the interest of white Christians is ridiculous as well. 0.98

00:45:15.000 Because, as I said, a large portion of regular white Christians find what you say to be repulsive. 0.99

00:45:21.000 True. 0.86

00:45:22.000 The fact that Paul Nalin tweets out something that Jews aren't even actually Jews, they're Khazars, and you like the tweet and say, oh, show these Talmudic Pharisees what's up, then I have to say, so you're not advocating that they represent an interest. 0.98

00:45:35.000 You're advocating they're not even Jews, but then you're at the same time advocating they are Jews and that we should take their. 0.96

00:45:40.000 Well, I mean, what do you mean by Jews? 0.93

00:45:42.000 When I say Talmudic Pharisees, it is to differentiate. 0.83

00:45:45.000 Between the Jews of the Old Testament and the Jews, of course, who rejected Christ, and now the rabbinical Jews, which is very different. 0.85

00:45:53.000 A Talmudic Jew is very different from the Jews of Abraham and Jacob and Isaac and Moses. 0.88

00:45:59.000 Very different. 0.74

00:46:00.000 And so when I say Talmudic Pharisee, that's not to say they're not actually Jews. 0.76

00:46:05.000 That is to distinguish between the Jewish people of old and the rabbinical Talmudic Jews now, because they are different. 0.79

00:46:12.000 Again, you're showing your. 0.83

00:46:14.000 John, I'm going to tell you why they're different?

00:46:14.000 But you're showing your.

00:46:17.000 Sure, please.

00:46:17.000 Here's why.

00:46:18.000 Because in the Talmud, the Talmud contradicts Scripture. 0.83

00:46:22.000 You know, the Jews of the Old Testament were led to believe that they follow the law of Moses. 1.00

00:46:27.000 Nice fate, by the way. 0.95

00:46:28.000 They follow the law of Moses and they follow the law of Abraham. 0.96

00:46:31.000 But the Jews of the Talmud, in the Talmud, there are parts where rabbis correct God. 0.93

00:46:36.000 There are parts that contradict Scripture. 0.61

00:46:37.000 The very existence of the Mishnah, the very existence of the Talmud, is contradictory to Scripture.

00:46:43.000 And so, you know, they cannot be the same. 0.52

00:46:44.000 It is very simple. 0.99

00:46:46.000 Talmudic Judaism. 0.84

00:46:47.000 Is based on the idea that if you read the Old Testament, it's impossible to decipher any of the actual commands of God.

00:46:54.000 They're not explained.

00:46:55.000 There was an oral law and there was a written law.

00:46:58.000 So, I mean, at the time, in, as you say, 200 AD and 500 AD, they decided that because Israel was not together, it was being separated more and more, it was a good idea to write these things down.

00:47:12.000 Which, if you look at them, they are all rabbinical discourse as to the same principle to figure out what is it that we're writing down to pass on about Scripture.

00:47:22.000 They're not saying they disagree with God, they're saying that this is the way it has been practiced since handed to the Jews on Sinai.

00:47:28.000 And this is the way that it's been done.

00:47:30.000 And then all of the scholars at the time debated it and came to a conclusion on how it would be transmitted further because they didn't believe it could be orally transmitted anymore.

00:47:40.000 So you're saying there's a big difference between Talmudic Judaism and original Judaism when there is no difference?

00:47:46.000 There is.

00:47:46.000 No, there isn't.

00:47:49.000 I'll tell you exactly.

00:47:50.000 Here's why.

00:47:51.000 Because in the scripture, when the Ten Commandments are received on Mount Sinai, there's no mention in scripture of an oral tradition that is given from God to the rabbis.

00:48:02.000 As is said in the Talmud.

00:48:04.000 So, the very existence of an oral tradition is against Scripture.

00:48:07.000 And therefore, these cannot be the followers of Moses. 0.95

00:48:10.000 They cannot be the Jews. 0.87

00:48:11.000 And also, Jesus Christ actualizes the law of Moses. 0.98

00:48:15.000 He fulfills the prophecy of the Old Testament.

00:48:17.000 So, I mean, beyond that, I mean, there's disagreement, obviously, about that, but that's a more controversial one.

00:48:22.000 But for starters, the existence of an oral tradition, there's no basis for it in the Scripture.

00:48:26.000 There's 100% basis.

00:48:28.000 One of the commandments in the Scripture says, Thou shalt don phylacteries and put them on your head.

00:48:32.000 How do you know what a phylactery is if there's no oral tradition as to how to make one?

00:48:35.000 No, no, no.

00:48:35.000 Is it just that they all of a sudden had it in their brain that this is what a phylactery is?

00:48:40.000 No, you have to tell someone this is what it means.

00:48:43.000 You know that doesn't stand.

00:48:44.000 No, you keep saying that there was no oral tradition, but you also acknowledge that in scripture it doesn't explain anything.

00:48:51.000 I said, no, no, no.

00:48:53.000 Scriptural.

00:48:54.000 It says, Thou shalt keep the Sabbath and make it holy, for I am your God.

00:48:58.000 How do you keep the Sabbath if it doesn't tell you how?

00:49:00.000 Oh, okay.

00:49:01.000 No, but here's the difference the Talmud doesn't say we have this oral tradition or we have traditions.

00:49:06.000 The Talmud says that the rabbis received an oral tradition from God, and that's not in scripture.

00:49:12.000 You know, you can have your tradition of how to make this, how to keep the Sabbath.

00:49:16.000 It says that Moses received the oral and the written Torah.

00:49:19.000 The oral Torah was transmitted orally over generations to explain it.

00:49:24.000 It says the rabbis received the oral tradition, and that's not.

00:49:26.000 No, it does not.

00:49:27.000 It does not say that.

00:49:29.000 It says that Moses received the oral tradition.

00:49:31.000 How would you know how to fulfill scripture if you don't tell people?

00:49:35.000 You are dismissed. 0.86

00:49:39.000 What you're saying is that when God gave the Old Testament, he put it in every Jew's brain how to interpret what it actually said, because after all, it doesn't explain it at all. 0.89

00:49:49.000 It says, You will keep the Sabbath. 0.87

00:49:51.000 It doesn't say how to do that.

00:49:53.000 So there was no oral tradition to tell the next generation.

00:49:57.000 They just knew.

00:49:58.000 Wrong.

00:49:59.000 Again, and here you are strawmaning me because you know you're incorrect here.

00:50:02.000 Actually, no, I know I'm exactly correct. 0.92

00:50:05.000 The rabbinical Jews believe that the rabbis received the oral tradition from God at Mount Sinai, and that has no basis in scripture.

00:50:13.000 There were no rabbis at Mount Sinai.

00:50:15.000 There was a high priest called.

00:50:16.000 You know that?

00:50:18.000 No, I don't.

00:50:19.000 There was no such thing as a rabbi.

00:50:21.000 The word rabbi means teacher. 0.96

00:50:22.000 Here it is with the.

00:50:24.000 So you are sitting here lying.

00:50:26.000 You are making things up to make your case when you're called out on.

00:50:31.000 Please, I would like to read the Wikipedia page called Oral Torah.

00:50:39.000 The third paragraph says Belief that the Oral Torah was transmitted orally from God to Moses on Mount Sinai.

00:50:46.000 During the exodus from Egypt is a fundamental tenet of faith of Orthodox Judaism.

00:50:52.000 It was recognized as one of the 13 principles of faith by Maimonides.

00:50:57.000 However, not all branches of rabbinic Judaism accept the divine provenance of the oral Torah, such that conservative and to a greater extent Reformed Jews give deference to the Talmudic Sages while empowering themselves to formulate and adopt their own rulings and interpretations.

00:51:17.000 Before I continue, I just want to say two things here.

00:51:21.000 First of all, congratulations to all of us here. 0.96

00:51:24.000 Number fucking fourth. 0.97

00:51:27.000 A four worldwide, yeah. 0.98

00:51:29.000 Also, I want to thank a really big donation here from Garm 9350 euro.

00:51:35.000 I'm gonna just abridge this one.

00:51:38.000 He says he thinks that the Halsey that we could have found someone better to debate Nick than Halsey.

00:51:49.000 However, I want to just make this clear to people if you put anything anti Semitic or racist in, I will not be reading that.

00:51:58.000 Okay, no need for that.

00:52:01.000 Let's just debate the actual issues.

00:52:03.000 Being racist, there's no. 1.00

00:52:05.000 I can't be reading that shit, okay? 1.00

00:52:07.000 Just wanted to say that. 1.00

00:52:09.000 And yeah.

00:52:12.000 So, yeah, Halsey, as per what JF just read, this would prove that Nick is right in this situation. 0.93

00:52:20.000 It would prove that reform and conservative Jews, which were founded in the early 1900s, believe that. 0.97

00:52:20.000 No, wouldn't it? 0.97

00:52:25.000 So, no, it doesn't show that all of the Jews throughout history believe that. 0.64

00:52:29.000 It proves that two factors, both of which Advocate for a position against the Torah in general. 0.82

00:52:35.000 They don't believe in keeping the Sabbath.

00:52:37.000 They don't believe in keeping the festivals.

00:52:38.000 They don't believe in keeping kosher.

00:52:40.000 Those are tenets of reform and conservative Judaism.

00:52:43.000 They believe in female rabbis.

00:52:44.000 They believe in gay marriage.

00:52:47.000 They believe in things that have absolutely nothing to do with traditional Judaism.

00:52:52.000 So to say that those people reject it, those are people that reject Judaism.

00:52:57.000 Like he said, the 13 tenets of Maimonides are that you have to accept that the oral Torah was given to Moses at Sinai, which is something that was a universal belief.

00:53:07.000 Until European Jews decided to liberalize some of Judaism.

00:53:13.000 Well, I mean, look, again, I don't see how this is even relevant. 0.63

00:53:17.000 I mean, we could go back and forth.

00:53:19.000 You're the one who keeps breaking it up.

00:53:21.000 That's why it's relevant.

00:53:22.000 All right, all right, thank you.

00:53:24.000 You know, it goes back to what I said, which was Talmudic Pharisees.

00:53:27.000 And regardless of these distinctions, the point was to differentiate between the Jews of the Christian tradition and the Jews of the rabbinical Jewish tradition, not an attempt.

00:53:38.000 It wasn't a call.

00:53:39.000 I don't know how you extrapolated that into a call for some kind of uprising, for some kind of violent war.

00:53:46.000 Nobody's calling for that.

00:53:48.000 What we are merely calling for is a recognition, and you seem to be okay with that.

00:53:52.000 So I'm not quite sure what the disagreement is here.

00:53:55.000 You say, like, oh, people find your views repulsive, and yet you've agreed with my prescription and my facts, and in basically my entire position here.

00:54:04.000 So I'm not even quite sure what it is beyond just this kvetching, beyond this, oy vey, Nick is telling everybody what's going on.

00:54:12.000 You know, we agree that there should be recognition of the prejudices.

00:54:15.000 We agree that this over representation exists.

00:54:19.000 I mean, where is the disagreement?

00:54:21.000 Actually, Palsy, there's actually a sorry.

00:54:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:26.000 It's a good super chat someone brings up.

00:54:26.000 Here it is.

00:54:28.000 I just want your opinion on this.

00:54:30.000 TFW, who threw $10.

00:54:32.000 Thank you very much, brother.

00:54:34.000 He threw $10 over said that.

00:54:38.000 The MSN has ranted for over a year about Russian influence.

00:54:43.000 On the election.

00:54:45.000 Why do they see no problem with Israel influence via the media, via AIPAC, Jewish lobby, and a Jewish American Senate?

00:54:57.000 I'm not.

00:54:58.000 Can you repeat the question?

00:55:01.000 Essentially, MSN keeps talking, and a lot of liberal news sources keep talking about Russian influence over the election, right?

00:55:11.000 Right.

00:55:12.000 Now, why did they keep bringing that up about the Russian influence?

00:55:18.000 You know, people helping out the election, helping out Donald Trump, but they don't see a problem with Israel influence via the media.

00:55:27.000 And as Nick has pointed out, that a lot of Jewish people are in the media and represented by, what was it, 2,000%, I think you said, Nick?

00:55:38.000 2,000% overrepresentation.

00:55:42.000 So, first of all, the Russian narrative has been pretty much pushed by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, James Comey, like these are not Jewish names.

00:55:42.000 Okay.

00:55:54.000 Yes, there are Jews among them, like I keep saying, there are Jews among every group.

00:55:58.000 So I don't believe that Jews are pushing the Russian narrative.

00:56:01.000 I believe that leftists are. 0.82

00:56:02.000 Secondly, I don't believe that there is a lack of Russian evidence of Russian influence anywhere.

00:56:08.000 I believe that Russia has tried to influence, I believe every country tries to influence our elections.

00:56:12.000 I believe that AIPAC is specifically a lobbying group that's set up to promote Israeli interests.

00:56:18.000 And I think that they can do whatever they want.

00:56:20.000 But as I've said the other day, That the relationship between Israel and America is a business one as opposed to the foreign aid that's given to many others.

00:56:29.000 So, and if we want to get into that, we can too, as Nick Dillich obviously tried to smell his own fart.

00:56:34.000 So, the heart of the question of the super chat, though, the heart is not does it align with Hillary Clinton's interests?

00:56:43.000 The question is given that there are two countries out there who may have influenced the election, why do we only hear about Russia?

00:56:50.000 Do you think that the fact that there are Jews in the media makes them not want to talk about Israel influence?

00:56:58.000 On the elections.

00:56:59.000 As I said, Israel's influence on the election is also out there for everyone to see as well because Nick never shuts up about it.

00:57:06.000 All the people on his side never shut up about it.

00:57:08.000 People talk about AIPAC all the time.

00:57:10.000 In fact, Donald Trump spoke at AIPAC.

00:57:13.000 So there's no lack of evidence that there's an Israel lobby in America.

00:57:16.000 There's only the idea that all of a sudden that influence is something that people aren't upfront about.

00:57:22.000 So essentially, saying if you want the Jewish perspective, listen to CNN. 0.61

00:57:26.000 And if you want the non Jewish perspective, listen to Nick's YouTube channel. 0.69

00:57:31.000 No, I'm saying that as I said before, I don't believe the Jewish interest is represented by CNN. 0.85

00:57:36.000 I don't believe it's a monolith that all Jews at CNN come together.

00:57:39.000 You just said I understand that they're defending the Jewish interest.

00:57:44.000 That's what I was talking about.

00:57:45.000 I was talking about APAC.

00:57:46.000 Okay. 0.90

00:57:50.000 Well, you know, Halsey, if you want to start on Israel, I got to warn you is this a path you want to go down?

00:57:55.000 Is this something you really wanted to do?

00:57:58.000 You really want to show up?

00:58:00.000 I don't know.

00:58:01.000 Let's slow down.

00:58:06.000 Sure.

00:58:07.000 I don't know.

00:58:07.000 Was this an imitation of vegan Gans or something?

00:58:10.000 With a little Sam Hyde.

00:58:13.000 No, I mean, Will Chamberlain.

00:58:15.000 Who is that other guy?

00:58:16.000 Jacob Wolf.

00:58:16.000 Many have fallen on the Israel debate, but I mean, if you want to bring on the Israel stuff, let's do it.

00:58:22.000 I'm game. 0.88

00:58:23.000 Go ahead.

00:58:23.000 Okay.

00:58:24.000 I'm game.

00:58:25.000 JF's laughing.

00:58:25.000 He had to mute himself.

00:58:27.000 So here we go.

00:58:28.000 So here we go, my guy.

00:58:30.000 All right.

00:58:32.000 You say you're Jewish, and let me ask you before we start about Israel. 0.81

00:58:38.000 Do you believe that America should be put first? 0.65

00:58:40.000 Do you believe that American interests should come first?

00:58:43.000 Yes, 100%. 0.77

00:58:45.000 So now we give Israel, since 2016, we started a 10 year agreement where we would give Israel $3.8 billion per year in foreign aid.

00:58:55.000 That's the most foreign aid we give to any other country.

00:58:57.000 We've given Israel the most foreign aid out of any other country since 1978.

00:59:02.000 And I would simply. 0.58

00:59:05.000 That's actually not true, but okay.

00:59:06.000 Well, we've given them, regardless, we've given them something in the ballpark of $244 billion.

00:59:06.000 All right, all right.

00:59:11.000 So you can squabble about the details, but a quarter of a trillion dollars we've given Israel.

00:59:16.000 Since the founding in 1948.

00:59:18.000 I mean, nobody disagrees with that. 0.81

00:59:21.000 Do you think that they are serving our interests when they conduct the third most aggressive spying operation on American soil, when they sell our military technology to China, when they develop a clandestine nuclear program? 0.54

00:59:34.000 They don't sign the NPT, they steal our uranium. 0.58

00:59:37.000 I mean, on and on and on. 0.75

00:59:38.000 You look at all these examples, and how can you sit there and say that you are America first, but then you also are supportive of Israel and the aid that we give them? 0.99

00:59:47.000 Okay, let's unpack all of the bullshit that you just said.

00:59:50.000 First of all, every bit of money that was given to Israel before 1989, or it was 86, I think, it was one of the two, I'm not sure of the actual date, were loans that were paid back in full. 0.95

00:59:59.000 Secondly, after that, the memorandum of understanding that had been reached with subsequent governments, A, requires 73% of the money be spent here and requires that all Israeli tech developed in military industries be given to America as American tech and produced here as American goods that Israel has to buy.

01:00:16.000 No other country on the planet has this arrangement with Israel.

01:00:19.000 In fact, Israel is the only one that gives America something for their aid.

01:00:23.000 And you said the most foreign aid received every single year since then, the UN gets more money from Israel every year than Israel.

01:00:29.000 NATO gets more money.

01:00:31.000 And Afghanistan last year got more money than Israel. 0.91

01:00:33.000 It'd be a war with Afghanistan. 0.78

01:00:35.000 But what I'm saying is that you're saying that we give Israel all this money. 0.83

01:00:39.000 We don't give Israel.

01:00:41.000 Yeah, but NATO and the United Nations are not countries.

01:00:46.000 Countries and the only other countries, as I just said, last year Afghanistan got more, which is kind of a special case, wouldn't you think?

01:00:54.000 Don't you think? 0.92

01:00:55.000 But as I said, none of them give anything back.

01:00:58.000 In fact, the European super society that you keep talking about, wait, I let you talk.

01:01:04.000 All right, take it easy, Stella.

01:01:06.000 You keep talking about Europe.

01:01:09.000 We give money to Europe, which is again, why are you interrupting me if you're going to complain about me interrupting you?

01:01:15.000 Go ahead.

01:01:15.000 We give money to Europe, which supplements.

01:01:18.000 Almost all of their military budget, hence why Donald Trump handed Angela Merkel a bill.

01:01:22.000 And what we get out of it is the idea that they push socialism because they're able to afford it because of our aid.

01:01:28.000 Israel's money is paid back to America 10 times over because of the tech that America gets absolute exclusive right to.

01:01:35.000 And they get veto power over everybody Israel sells weapons to.

01:01:39.000 So right now, there is a business relationship between Israel and America that you don't want to accept.

01:01:44.000 But as I said, every dollar we give them, 73% of it has to be spent in America.

01:01:50.000 With American military tech given to them from America.

01:01:54.000 So if you're talking about it being a jobs thing, then yes, I might be able to say to you that I don't like the idea of giving corporate welfare.

01:02:02.000 But at the same time, you're talking about money that's only spent here.

01:02:05.000 The other 27% is only spent on military tech research, which America has, again, 100% rights to.

01:02:14.000 So I'd like to understand how we're giving Israel anything, but yet we're not giving to anyone else who doesn't give us anything in return.

01:02:20.000 Sure.

01:02:21.000 Yeah.

01:02:21.000 Well, number one, it's not from a jobs point of view.

01:02:24.000 That's not where I'm coming from.

01:02:25.000 But number two, and this is the argument I hear all the time, this is the argument I heard from Will Chamberlain and Jacob Woolley.

01:02:30.000 You know, well, they're spending all this money.

01:02:32.000 They have, and I'll grant you that they have to spend a lot of it here.

01:02:36.000 Actually, they get a very favorable deal than any other country in terms of the amount of money, the amount of foreign aid that has to be spent on the American defense industry is much smaller for Israel than any other country.

01:02:50.000 Most countries have a much higher percentage that they have to spend on U.S. military, but that's beside the point.

01:02:55.000 If we wanted to subsidize our military, if we wanted to buy Israeli military technology, we could just do those things.

01:03:02.000 We could have 100% of the money go to our defense industry if we just spent it here.

01:03:07.000 We could buy their technology outright if we cared.

01:03:09.000 To.

01:03:10.000 There's no reason we should be giving this money to them. 0.97

01:03:12.000 And actually, if you look at the way the money is given to Israel, it's funny, you say before 86, it was loans and they were paid back in full. 0.88

01:03:18.000 I don't know if that's totally true, but hypothetically, let's say it is.

01:03:22.000 The way that the situation works now is that we give them loans.

01:03:26.000 We don't give them grants because if we gave them grants, we would have to station the U.S. military there to oversee how the grants are spent.

01:03:32.000 We give them the money in loans and then we cancel the loans.

01:03:36.000 So we give them basically a grant, but without the oversight that comes with the grant.

01:03:39.000 On top of that, Unlike any other country in the world who gets U.S. foreign aid, Israel gets it in a lump sum.

01:03:46.000 They get it at the beginning of the year in full.

01:03:48.000 And what does that mean?

01:03:50.000 Unlike other countries, Israel gets to use some of that money to invest in U.S. Treasury bonds.

01:03:55.000 They get the money at the beginning of the year and they get to buy our Treasury bonds and make interest off of the foreign aid money we give them.

01:04:01.000 So we give them a loan, we cancel it, and then they make interest off of the loan that we gave them.

01:04:07.000 So you want to talk about provisions?

01:04:09.000 That's number one, but it's not even that much money.

01:04:11.000 Here is why I oppose it.

01:04:13.000 $3.8 billion a year.

01:04:15.000 And what we are doing, in effect, is rewarding a regime which actively hurts our interests, a rogue regime who actively hurts our interests in the Middle East and in the United States.

01:04:26.000 They conduct, depending on who you ask, the second, the third, or the fourth most aggressive spying operation on U.S. soil behind only Russia and China, our two major adversaries when they spy on us.

01:04:39.000 You look at the wars in the Middle East that they've caused us to go in, the intelligence, the vaunted intelligence that we get in exchange for our money.

01:04:47.000 Which led us to war in Iraq, where there were no weapons of mass destruction.

01:04:52.000 You look at how, and you say, that was another rich thing you said about how we sell our weapons to them.

01:04:56.000 You say, oh, the United States gets veto power over who they sell their weapons to.

01:05:00.000 They've been caught red handed every decade for the past 30 years selling our military technology to China or other foreign adversaries.

01:05:08.000 So, you know, the idea that, oh, you know, they're really good with our technology, just five years ago, they sold our tech to France, and then France sold it to China.

01:05:16.000 And so our missile tech ended up in the hands of China.

01:05:19.000 And so these are just a few examples. 0.74

01:05:22.000 Of the things that are happening.

01:05:23.000 So, wait a minute. 0.74

01:05:24.000 You're actually saying that Israel sold it to France and then France sold it to China, but yet it's Israel's fault for selling military tech to an American ally that America would have sold it to because it's Israel's fault. 0.69

01:05:37.000 Secondly, you keep saying, oh, well. 0.75

01:05:39.000 Well, here's why because of the way the contract works.

01:05:42.000 The way the contract.

01:05:43.000 Oh, the contract.

01:05:44.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:05:45.000 Yeah, no.

01:05:46.000 Because the way the contract works is it's supposed to be that Israel is just supposed to stop with Israel, but then they sell it to France and then France acts as a third party to sell it to China. 0.89

01:05:54.000 That is Israel's fault. 0.91

01:05:55.000 If it ends up, if we give weapons to Israel and it ends up in the hands of China, it doesn't matter if it went through France, our tech went into the hands of China. 0.96

01:06:03.000 You know, that technology was not intended to go into the hands of the French and then into China.

01:06:08.000 So you kind of try and wiggle your way out of that one.

01:06:10.000 I'm not wiggling my way out of it.

01:06:12.000 I'm saying America gives military tech to France just as much.

01:06:16.000 And also, you could, yeah, you could even go ahead.

01:06:20.000 Sorry, I want to intervene just for one second here.

01:06:24.000 Have you guys ever heard of Billy the Anti Bully?

01:06:27.000 No, no, uh, no, okay.

01:06:29.000 Well, he's a friend of the show, but he's asking a question here.

01:06:35.000 Do you believe Israel is responsible for their attack on the USS Liberty as in it wasn't a misunderstanding, but a deliberate act during wartime? 0.96

01:06:46.000 I do believe that.

01:06:48.000 Of course you do, but no, I don't.

01:06:51.000 Yeah, well, I mean.

01:06:52.000 Billy for, yeah, thanks, Billy.

01:06:55.000 There's another example where, you know, and I don't usually use that one because, you know, they still haven't declassified all the intelligence on that one.

01:07:03.000 And he got one.

01:07:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:07:05.000 You wonder why, because that's going to prove you right.

01:07:07.000 So you can make reference to things that you don't know the answer to.

01:07:14.000 Well, no, that's why I don't use that one, because that one.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, you said I don't use it.

01:07:20.000 Because we have skill.

01:07:21.000 I love how you keep doing that.

01:07:23.000 You keep saying, I'm not going to use it.

01:07:25.000 Then you use it and say, see, this is why I don't use it.

01:07:28.000 I didn't, like, the commenter brought that one up.

01:07:30.000 The reason that I don't come out right out of the gate with that one. 0.96

01:07:33.000 Is because we don't have all the intelligence, even though I believe that Israel did do it. 0.58

01:07:37.000 I mean, there's so much other evidence where we are beyond a shadow of a doubt certain that Israel was the culprit. 0.62

01:07:43.000 You can look at the Levant affair. 0.99

01:07:44.000 The culprit? 0.96

01:07:46.000 They admitted to it.

01:07:47.000 They said they were sorry about it, but it was during a war.

01:07:52.000 They bombed a U.S. ship deliberately for no apparent reason.

01:07:55.000 It had a U.S. flag flying on it.

01:07:56.000 No, not for no apparent reason.

01:07:57.000 Yes, because you could see a flag from a fighter.

01:07:59.000 Because it was a.

01:08:00.000 Yeah, you can.

01:08:01.000 Yeah, you can.

01:08:03.000 It was a.

01:08:04.000 And it was one of the ships.

01:08:05.000 Hey, have you ever been on a plane? 1.00

01:08:08.000 Are you that retarded that you can see that? 1.00

01:08:11.000 I'd like to hear Nick on what evidence he has, and then the answer by Alzey. 0.99

01:08:17.000 Here's why because the Israelis were conducting a massacre, and that was a U.S. spy ship, and the Israelis didn't want us to know.

01:08:24.000 Oh, it was for no reason.

01:08:25.000 Why would they do that? 0.66

01:08:26.000 Because the U.S. might have been privy to the atrocities that the Israelis were committing, the war crimes they were committing. 0.60

01:08:31.000 You say, oh, well, they didn't know.

01:08:33.000 This was an American ship.

01:08:34.000 This is not an Egyptian ship.

01:08:36.000 They have different ships, and it had an American flag flying.

01:08:39.000 You can ask the sailors who were on the ship that day.

01:08:43.000 Many of them testify that it would have been impossible for the Israelis not to know.

01:08:47.000 And these were people that were on the boat.

01:08:49.000 You say, Nick, have you ever been in a plane?

01:08:51.000 Why don't you ask the people that were there that day when they were under siege for hours and they had an American flag flying on there?

01:08:56.000 It was an American ship.

01:08:58.000 And they were telling them it was an American ship.

01:09:00.000 And they blew it up anyway.

01:09:01.000 And there were 130 lives.

01:09:02.000 And you know what? 0.82

01:09:03.000 I think there's probably a better case that the Israelis deliberately blew up that ship than a lot of other atrocities that happened in the past. 0.80

01:09:09.000 And, you know, people love to say, oh, well, the USS Liberty, the Levant affair, that was so long ago. 0.78

01:09:13.000 Well, you know, we're still paying for a lot of the atrocities.

01:09:16.000 That were hypothetically committed at other times.

01:09:18.000 So I think it's very rich.

01:09:20.000 I think the hypocrisy is very rich, my guy. 1.00

01:09:22.000 Oh, yeah, because you just, again, spouted a whole bunch of bullshit. 1.00

01:09:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:26.000 And then you're using it as evidence that what you're saying is right. 1.00

01:09:30.000 So, as I said, if you've ever been on a plane, then you would say a flag is hard to see.

01:09:35.000 Secondly, they admitted to doing it for hours.

01:09:38.000 There was no massacres being committed, it was a war, which obviously you seem to think can be done in a very clean way where wars can be fought and nobody gets killed.

01:09:47.000 Thirdly, you love to say, oh my God, we're still paying for that.

01:09:50.000 And there's Classified information that we don't have.

01:09:53.000 But you're making the assumption that the classified information proves your point. 0.99

01:09:57.000 And that's where you're just spouting bullshit. 0.97

01:10:00.000 And also the massacres that happened that only get documented, it seems, by these fringe right wing sites that don't have anything to back it up. 0.99

01:10:08.000 From people that were on the ships, from people that were on.

01:10:11.000 Massacres.

01:10:12.000 You said they were spying on massacres.

01:10:15.000 Not the liberty that there were massacres going on.

01:10:18.000 But there were no evidence of that.

01:10:21.000 You're not putting that out there.

01:10:22.000 You're just.

01:10:23.000 I know.

01:10:23.000 I was there in the 60s.

01:10:24.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:10:26.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:10:27.000 You know, you asked for the reason.

01:10:30.000 You said they blew it up for no reason, and I told you the reason.

01:10:33.000 They were at war.

01:10:34.000 It was flying, it was a ship in Egyptian waters. 0.92

01:10:38.000 Well, that's why. 0.77

01:10:39.000 But that's why, though, because they were committing a war crime.

01:10:42.000 Well, and here's why because they had to kill a bunch of Egyptian prisoners of war so they could revert their troops up to their northern flank because they didn't have enough supplies up there.

01:10:49.000 And, you know, look, despite that, we could get into the what or the why.

01:10:53.000 But again, this was a sustained attack on the USS Liberty.

01:10:57.000 This wasn't a trigger happy attack.

01:10:59.000 Commander, this wasn't, oh, whoops, we accidentally shot at you.

01:11:02.000 This was a sustained attack.

01:11:04.000 The Secretary of State at the time said he wasn't satisfied with their explanation.

01:11:09.000 And why then did they cover up all of the evidence?

01:11:12.000 Why did they cover it up?

01:11:13.000 Why is it still not declassified today?

01:11:15.000 People that were on the ship say that the attack.

01:11:18.000 Let's get into it some more.

01:11:18.000 I hate it.

01:11:20.000 I've got it.

01:11:21.000 No problem.

01:11:22.000 I look, I know it's a big deal.

01:11:23.000 I know it's a. 0.97

01:11:23.000 You have shut up for a minute. 0.97

01:11:26.000 Let me talk for a second. 0.98

01:11:28.000 Let me talk for a second.

01:11:28.000 I know it's a.

01:11:30.000 You're here at Big Five.

01:11:32.000 I get to talk about that.

01:11:34.000 Let's hear it.

01:11:37.000 Why is it declassified? 0.79

01:11:38.000 You just said the Jews run America. 0.96

01:11:40.000 They have all the influence they want. 0.97

01:11:42.000 Yeah.

01:11:43.000 Well, yet, American, it's still declassified.

01:11:46.000 It's still classified here. 1.00

01:11:48.000 So, all of a sudden, now the Jews have influence.

01:11:50.000 They don't have influence. 0.94

01:11:52.000 No, I'm not saying that they have any influence.

01:11:54.000 They just have interest.

01:11:55.000 Now, all of a sudden, they have interest to classify something in 1967.

01:11:58.000 You're claiming massacres that nobody claimed existed.

01:12:01.000 You're claiming that.

01:12:02.000 The attack on the liberty was sustained and they didn't know when you don't know.

01:12:05.000 Yeah, here's your answer.

01:12:06.000 Because you weren't there.

01:12:07.000 Yes, some people said that they disputed the attack.

01:12:10.000 That's the way that every single thing happens in history unless someone says, oh, I did it.

01:12:16.000 Pretty weak.

01:12:17.000 Oh, yeah, pretty weak.

01:12:18.000 Pretty weak.

01:12:19.000 Well, here, here.

01:12:20.000 How about this?

01:12:21.000 Your locating is literally just saying, I know because I was there.

01:12:27.000 And you say, as long as I go, I was there.

01:12:32.000 You don't know.

01:12:32.000 And you know what?

01:12:34.000 I know you think that's your point.

01:12:35.000 I know you think that's your point, Alzey, is more than you don't know, right?

01:12:39.000 You claim that there was no reason. 0.85

01:12:41.000 That's a positive claim.

01:12:43.000 If I was to ask you, just like Nick backed up his statement by the evidence that he believes in, what makes you think that there was no reason?

01:12:52.000 They admitted it, and the American government also said what happened.

01:12:56.000 Both Israeli and American governments said it was an accident.

01:12:59.000 Israel apologized and made restitution, and they moved on.

01:13:03.000 So that's my ethics.

01:13:06.000 I see what you're saying, but Nick, you said it wasn't declassified?

01:13:15.000 Yeah, a lot of the evidence is not declassified, or a lot of the information about the attack is not declassified.

01:13:21.000 Has the amount of time to declassify information like that has that time passed?

01:13:27.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:13:28.000 Absolutely.

01:13:28.000 I mean, like the JFK assassination evidence has been declassified recently.

01:13:32.000 That was in 63.

01:13:33.000 This was in 67.

01:13:34.000 So, I mean, the evidence, this was what, 50 years ago?

01:13:38.000 Absolutely.

01:13:40.000 No, that's just not true.

01:13:41.000 So, okay.

01:13:43.000 Well, hear about this.

01:13:44.000 You know, and I know that it's first of all, I have to say the the kvetching.

01:13:49.000 So, again, whenever anyone proves a point against you, you don't have to say, Oh, your opinion.

01:13:55.000 That's their next response.

01:13:57.000 Okay.

01:13:58.000 But again, if all he's going to do is say, Yes, you can't be telling a fact because then he in the same time says, Whatever.

01:14:06.000 Well, it's just in this nasally, it's so insufferable.

01:14:09.000 You're talking about people with nerd voices.

01:14:11.000 How about this?

01:14:13.000 I got a quote for you, big guy.

01:14:15.000 You're going to love this one.

01:14:16.000 This is Dean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident, who said, I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation.

01:14:25.000 Their sustained attack to disable and sink the Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger happy local commander.

01:14:34.000 Through diplomatic channels, we refused to accept their explanations.

01:14:38.000 I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day.

01:14:41.000 The attack was outrageous.

01:14:43.000 Secretary of State, but you know, maybe you know more, right?

01:14:46.000 Maybe you know more.

01:14:46.000 You've already acknowledged your bench.

01:14:49.000 Yeah, you've already acknowledged your bench.

01:14:51.000 The official American and Israeli stories contradict that.

01:14:55.000 So I'm saying you claim that you have evidence.

01:14:57.000 Because one person said something, and I'm claiming that a lot of other people said something else.

01:15:01.000 So if your evidence is that one person said something, then you're discounting what the official story is from both governments.

01:15:09.000 So if both governments have said one thing and your one guy has said something else, that isn't evidence that you're right and I'm wrong.

01:15:17.000 It's evidence that your one guy believes something differently, which happens all the time.

01:15:21.000 Secretary of State.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:15:25.000 Aze, do you recognize that the governments, when they emit public statements, it's More aligned with interest than necessarily seeking for the truth.

01:15:36.000 I acknowledge that can happen as well as a Secretary of State could do the same.

01:15:41.000 So, what is the Secretary of State's interest in telling that story about his feelings, his belief about what happened?

01:15:50.000 I don't know what his interests were.

01:15:51.000 I'm not him, nor have I asked him.

01:15:53.000 What I'm saying is his one account does not carry more weight than anyone else.

01:15:58.000 It does carry more weight than some people.

01:16:02.000 Would you agree that the Secretary of State is better positioned?

01:16:05.000 To have had information than the average citizen.

01:16:09.000 Yes, but then so is the governments of both sides, who are made up of secretaries of defense, interior, the president, Congress, all of them.

01:16:18.000 So I would say that their opinion carries some weight as well.

01:16:21.000 So even if you want to discount that they could be lying, I say they could be lying, but I don't believe it.

01:16:27.000 I believe the official account. 0.55

01:16:28.000 And Nick is saying that just because this one guy said this and there's classified information on it, therefore it points to the fact that they're guilty, is ridiculous.

01:16:38.000 It's saying that just because he has other sources that say something, he's right.

01:16:44.000 But what I'm saying is the official account says something different.

01:16:47.000 Okay, so I think that everyone here agrees that there is uncertainty in that case, but everyone has presented their evidence.

01:16:54.000 I think that calling the Secretary of State in that moment of history a guy is big.

01:17:02.000 I will tell you, Secretary of State revealing their personal thoughts about important war events, my ears would be all open.

01:17:10.000 Now, Andy, did you want to do a concluding statement and end the show at this point?

01:17:17.000 Yeah, the first thing I want to just someone clarified.

01:17:23.000 Sorry, let me just find this one thing.

01:17:26.000 Garm93, he was clarifying to me.

01:17:29.000 He goes, I meant instead of Fuentes having Aaron Kasparov or Way of the World debate Housley, but I take that back though.

01:17:40.000 A little guy is doing quite good.

01:17:42.000 So, Nick, you have a A person who didn't like you at first but now is cheering you on, and also thanks to Salt Wota for the 20 bucks.

01:17:51.000 But I can't be reading that man.

01:17:53.000 Um, and just want to just read the most recent super chat from John Michael Cornett 20 bucks.

01:17:59.000 He says, Um, Cairo, September 20th, Egypt said today that it had discovered two mass graves in the Sinai containing what?

01:18:12.000 Oh, kill me. 1.00

01:18:15.000 Someone shoot me right now, honestly. 1.00

01:18:18.000 Is there a sniper that should have been outside the fucking window and popped me right when I said that? 1.00

01:18:24.000 Shut it down. 1.00

01:18:26.000 Shut it down.

01:18:28.000 We're almost at the end, too. 0.99

01:18:29.000 I have to fuck up like three, at least three times. 0.98

01:18:33.000 I can't read, okay? 0.98

01:18:34.000 This is my make a wish, okay?

01:18:37.000 All right.

01:18:38.000 Containing the remains of Egyptian prisoners of war.

01:18:42.000 I'm sweating now.

01:18:43.000 And unarmed civilians shot by Israeli soldiers during the 1967 world.

01:18:49.000 Is this true? 0.97

01:18:52.000 Yep.

01:18:53.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:18:55.000 And, well, I mean, that was what was intended to be covered.

01:18:58.000 Whoa, whoa.

01:19:00.000 Holy, a $200 donation just came in.

01:19:03.000 Jesus, guys.

01:19:04.000 Thank you for supporting Debunked Monk.

01:19:07.000 $200.

01:19:08.000 He goes, I turn on my blood squirts and it's this conversation.

01:19:14.000 Why is Ben Shapiro's kid brother on?

01:19:19.000 Israel is not a good military ally.

01:19:22.000 Remember the USS Liberty?

01:19:23.000 We just talked about that.

01:19:24.000 If you rewind, Debunked Monk.

01:19:27.000 A monk and they had some blood sports on that.

01:19:30.000 Uh, let's.

01:19:32.000 I don't know if I should.

01:19:35.000 I mean, he says it in a way where let's focus on gassing the penguins and the glorious Antarctic ethnostate.

01:19:42.000 Well, it's quite hardcore, yeah.

01:19:47.000 That's not a big uh, animal abuse guy.

01:19:51.000 And sorry, I'm sorry, guys, if I'm like acting a little bit slow right now, I'm like literally fading.

01:19:56.000 I had to like.

01:19:57.000 Turn off my camera and eat because I didn't eat dinner.

01:20:00.000 I was just like, oh my God, I'm gonna die here. 0.99

01:20:02.000 He goes, I did 10 years as a Fed, a Mossadegh played against us. 0.98

01:20:09.000 That's me fucking up another word. 0.95

01:20:12.000 That's me, honestly. 0.97

01:20:15.000 Like in the beginning of the show, I was doing so well.

01:20:19.000 And then at the end, I just revealed my true IQ.

01:20:23.000 All right.

01:20:24.000 Anyway, let's do some.

01:20:28.000 I think I'm dying right now.

01:20:30.000 Let's do some.

01:20:31.000 Concluding statements, uh, here very, very epic, interesting conversation.

01:20:37.000 Uh, JF, what did you hear about?

01:20:39.000 Well, I'd like to congratulate the two debaters.

01:20:41.000 I mean, these are not easy questions, the points have been laid out, people can decide for themselves.

01:20:48.000 But we have two quality people here who have exchanged great ideas.

01:20:52.000 Yeah, it was very good.

01:20:54.000 And, uh, Halsey, let's start with you, man. 0.99

01:20:57.000 Um, I just, as I said, I don't really have a concluding statement, I don't buy his crap. 0.95

01:21:03.000 Think that he's someone that anyone should care about, and maybe some people do. 1.00

01:21:07.000 I hope that sometime he actually grows up a little bit and he's able to see the world for what it is, as opposed to his closed minded kind of idiocy. 0.93

01:21:16.000 But at the same time, there are definitely good points that he made, there's definitely things he said that are somewhat true. 0.97

01:21:22.000 So, touche, all right.

01:21:27.000 And uh, and Nick, and then I have a question for both of you, but Nick, go ahead.

01:21:31.000 All right, well, as always, thank you to Andy and JF, the dynamic duo.

01:21:36.000 We love you guys, we love the blood.

01:21:38.000 Sports.

01:21:38.000 Love coming on.

01:21:39.000 Thanks for having me as always.

01:21:41.000 I got to say, on the question of the Jewish people, you know, it's a taboo.

01:21:46.000 It's something you're not allowed to talk about, but I come at it from a position that I care about my country.

01:21:52.000 I care about my people.

01:21:53.000 I care about my faith.

01:21:54.000 If you care about things, you care about who's in the media.

01:21:57.000 You care about who's in these positions of influence and their prejudices and with their worldview, where they're coming from.

01:22:03.000 And I think, I don't think you can truly care about your people.

01:22:06.000 I don't think you're really being honest about this if you.

01:22:09.000 Are not honest about who is pulling the levers in those positions of power.

01:22:12.000 And so I come at it not from a place of hate, but merely from a place that loved the country and wanted to succeed.

01:22:18.000 And Halsey, you know, pretty nasty guy, pretty nasty guy, but it was a fun debate.

01:22:23.000 And there it is.

01:22:25.000 Andy, I have to say, my view of Nick totally changes today.

01:22:29.000 With his tie and his suit, I was like, this guy wants a job at CNN or Fox.

01:22:35.000 And I was like, does he want CNN or does he want Fox?

01:22:37.000 Today, I affirm it.

01:22:39.000 This guy never will get a job at either of the places, and he's okay with it.

01:22:44.000 The guy is okay.

01:22:46.000 We'll all stay independent here.

01:22:48.000 We'll all stay independent.

01:22:50.000 The question I have for both of you. 0.98

01:22:53.000 Is what you all think about Sargon calling the alt right a bunch of white niggers yesterday? 0.98

01:23:01.000 That was wrong. 0.99

01:23:05.000 Sargon, he said nigger like eight times to the chat that the host of the fucking live show was like, okay, I think we should end this. 0.99

01:23:19.000 What's both of you? 0.99

01:23:23.000 All right, no, I was just trying to make some lulls there.

01:23:23.000 No, Dodge.

01:23:26.000 I know.

01:23:27.000 I don't think I have much of an opinion.

01:23:29.000 I don't know what the context was or anything.

01:23:31.000 I probably wouldn't.

01:23:32.000 Oh, the alt right.

01:23:33.000 For our audience, we can also do a little context there.

01:23:37.000 So, Sargon of Akkad was on a live stream, and the alt right does what it does.

01:23:41.000 The alt right does contain some trolls.

01:23:44.000 And so they were trolling him, probably triggering him on why don't you debate X, Y, Z?

01:23:50.000 Why don't you do this?

01:23:51.000 Why don't you do that? 0.91

01:23:52.000 And he said, You guys are impolite.

01:23:55.000 And Sargon made a point about what he often says, which is, How would you characterize what is proper white behavior in the ethnostate? 0.97

01:24:05.000 But it turned into saying, hey, you guys are not acting white enough. 0.95

01:24:10.000 You guys are a bunch of N words, which was his way to insult white nationalists. 0.91

01:24:17.000 So I can understand from within the mind of Sargon, it was like, I'm going to point to their incapacity at defining what is white behavior and I'm going to call them N words. 0.63

01:24:30.000 You want to go first or me? 0.99

01:24:31.000 I mean, I have my own opinion.

01:24:32.000 I mean, it's in line with what he.

01:24:34.000 Traditionally says. 0.59

01:24:35.000 He says that he believes the alt right acts like white SJWs and you know what I'm saying, like, or racist SJWs.

01:24:40.000 It's in line with his thought process.

01:24:43.000 I wouldn't use words like that, but at the same time, like, it's in line with what he traditionally says.

01:24:49.000 I don't think he took it so much further than what he traditionally says. 1.00

01:24:53.000 Well, he called them niggers a bunch of times. 0.99

01:24:56.000 I mean, it's a little bit further, right? 0.96

01:24:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:24:59.000 It's not language I would use.

01:25:00.000 So, you know, like, but it's in line with obviously his thinking.

01:25:04.000 He was probably trying to.

01:25:06.000 I don't know, maybe get on their level or something like that.

01:25:08.000 I don't know why he did it, but I'm just saying that it seems to me in line with his thinking.

01:25:14.000 And Nick.

01:25:16.000 Well, I mean, the guy cracked.

01:25:18.000 He couldn't handle the public.

01:25:20.000 He got crushed by Spencer and publicly humiliated.

01:25:24.000 And I simply think that, like many e-celebs, you see this, they crack under the pressure. 1.00

01:25:30.000 They lose their fucking minds. 1.00

01:25:31.000 And that's what happened with Sargon. 1.00

01:25:33.000 And press F to pay respects.

01:25:35.000 Pretty unfortunate, but I don't know.

01:25:37.000 He won't be missed.

01:25:38.000 He's a liberalist.

01:25:39.000 He'll do well on his own, right?

01:25:40.000 He's able to.

01:25:41.000 I hope he comes back from this strong, takes a couple breaths.

01:25:46.000 I know it gets pretty intense in the arena.

01:25:52.000 But everyone who's watching right now, remember to hit like.

01:25:56.000 And it's always good to subscribe to people, even if you disagree with them.

01:26:00.000 I'm subscribed to a bunch of people on every political spectrum because then you could watch their videos and figure out what they are saying and then learn how to debunk it if you disagree.

01:26:11.000 So I have everyone's link down there.

01:26:14.000 Nick joined in a little bit later, about an hour and 20 minutes into when we joined.

01:26:19.000 So if you don't see the link there, if you hit refresh, links down there.

01:26:22.000 JF and I will stick around.

01:26:24.000 We'll be reading some super chats.

01:26:26.000 I'm going to probably make myself a coffee because I am fading a little bit.

01:26:30.000 But Nick and Halsey, Halsey, it was nice to meet you, man.

01:26:33.000 And good on you for sticking to your guns there.

01:26:37.000 And Nick, as always, very entertaining.

01:26:40.000 Very entertaining to listen to these debates.

01:26:42.000 Yes.

01:26:42.000 All right.

01:26:43.000 Well, thanks for having me.

01:26:44.000 Thanks, guys.

01:26:45.000 Bye bye.

01:26:45.000 Awesome job, guys.

01:26:46.000 All right.

01:26:47.000 Have a nice night.

01:26:50.000 Oh.

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - February 07, 2018

Nick Fuentes vs. Halsey

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