00:00:25.000So I'm not a happy camper right now, but I'm excited to be on with you, excited to be here for the conversation.
00:00:33.000Now, I'm sorry to you two, my windows were not prepared, so I'm just going to take a little time to adjust my windows so that the crowd can see you both.
00:00:42.000While I do that, Alze, can you explain to me the context of this debate and what we would be talking about?
00:00:50.000It's not as much a debate as I saw Nick's speech at the American Renaissance Conference about the differences between Generation Z and the baby boomer generation.
00:01:00.000And I happen to see a lot of similarities between the two.
00:01:04.000Not necessarily bad similarities, but I see a lot of similarities between the two, especially when you start with the beginning of the baby boomer generation to the end of it.
00:01:13.000It says that, like most sources say, social scientists say that the beginning of the baby boomer generation were largely Democrats, and the end of the generation were largely Republicans.
00:01:23.000They started to return to religion, they started to return to tradition, they started railing against things like abortion, homosexuality, things that would be considered non traditional.
00:01:34.000And I see the same thing in Generation Z in that you have this movement from the ultra liberal millennials into a much more conservative base of Generation Z.
00:01:44.000And I see this kind of coinciding with Trump and Reagan in that the baby boomers pretty much brought Reagan about after Carter.
00:02:15.000I was, you know, I think to the surprise probably of the audience, I think we have grown pretty friendly compared to when we were on originally.
00:02:33.000And ironically, after all the, you know, E drama and everything, you'd think like the last two people to bring about like a civil conversation would be us, but here we are.
00:02:44.000I appreciate the compliments about the speech.
00:02:46.000And, you know, I tend to agree with you just about the boomers in general that I think a lot of people lay the problems at the feet of the boomers and they say, oh, you know, they're the cause of everything.
00:02:58.000And I said very explicitly in my speech that I don't think you can totally blame the boomers in that we are all to a degree subject to the forces of history in the sense that.
00:03:10.000You know, the boomers were raised by a generation.
00:03:12.000The boomers were subject to forces beyond their control, whether that be technological, social, historical, cultural, and otherwise.
00:03:20.000You know, I don't think you could totally blame, for example, boomers for feminism when at the same time you had all kinds of labor saving devices introduced to the home, you know, like you had in the 1950s and you had birth control and contraception and all the rest.
00:03:34.000So you see those kinds of trends, and it's not totally surprising that you saw an ascendant feminist coalition.
00:03:42.000So I don't totally blame them so much as I blame these kinds of trends that went on.
00:03:47.000And we maybe learned from their mistakes.
00:03:49.000We learned some from the areas where maybe they were blindsided or they were bad stewards.
00:03:54.000And so, you know, I would slightly push back on the idea that Trump would be comparable to Reagan.
00:04:00.000And one of the things I talked about in the speech was, you know, a lot of people, a lot of defenders of the boomers, if there are any, they'll say, well, the boomers didn't cause the present problem because the 1965 Immigration Act passed when the last boomers were being born, right?
00:04:15.000I mean, the last boomers, I think, was 1964, was the last year that you could qualify as boomers.
00:04:21.000And so, you know, they couldn't really be passing the Immigration Act.
00:04:24.000The oldest ones wouldn't have even been.
00:04:25.000They would have been, what, 15, 20 years old, actually?
00:04:28.000They wouldn't be in Congress passing it or even voting on it, for that matter, a lot of them.
00:04:33.000But, and I pointed out in the speech, the big problem was not the Immigration Act being passed, it was not a lot of these trends that started to gain traction a long time before.
00:04:43.000And you could go as far back as the 20s, and even before then, you saw a lot of these trends begin.
00:04:48.000But I said in the speech very, very clearly, the problem was that they fell asleep at the wheel in the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s.
00:04:55.000Once things started to change in a very bad direction, once you saw Socially and demographically, a lot of these nasty and ugly and evil things going on.
00:05:06.000I think the boomers were far more concerned with material wealth, with themselves, and in this kind of freewheeling attitude than they were with how do we maintain civilization.
00:05:17.000And again, that's not to say every boomer's a bad person, they're bad people.
00:06:03.000When you look at the beginning of the boomer generation, and even right up almost until 1964, the defining events of that time were Cold War events.
00:06:14.000They were the idea that communism was going to either win or at least remain at parity with democracy.
00:06:21.000And I've been looking into the 65, obviously, from all my debates, and it gets thrown in my face so often.
00:06:27.000I've been looking into it quite a bit.
00:06:28.000And you have to look at the kind of intention.
00:06:31.000The intention was that America was this amazing place.
00:06:34.000With unlimited resources, and communism was this horrible place which was dreary and evil and going to kill off the entire planet.
00:06:41.000So, the idea was that you could bring these people, especially like the kind of higher class people, into America to make America even better because our immigration policies were so lax and the Soviet unions were so strong.
00:06:52.000You know, it was almost like yin and yang.
00:06:55.000And then it somehow got exploited as it was going on for political purposes.
00:07:01.000You know, like we can import voters, we can import labor.
00:07:04.000We can import all of the things that we don't like.
00:07:06.000And I put this right at the boomer's feet as well.
00:07:08.000Because in the 80s, with Reagan, greed was good.
00:07:12.000It didn't matter what was going on as long as it increased the bottom line.
00:07:25.000And I think he made that clear from the beginning.
00:07:27.000And I mean, he cucked on a lot of things.
00:07:29.000He cucked on abortion, he cucked on a lot of family policies that he had really ran on that he saw were a disaster in California when he was governor.
00:07:38.000And now we had Obama, who I think was 10 times worse than Carter could have pretty much ever been.
00:07:44.000And now we've got Trump, and we're laying a lot at the millennials' feet now.
00:08:14.000As long as I see what's going on, and I mean, I lecture at colleges and stuff sometimes, and we talk about these things about the rise of conservative values, the return to religion, the return to families, the return to children, the return to owning property.
00:08:27.000Which was something people always say to me, you know, white people discovered America.
00:08:30.000I actually say that they're not right.
00:08:31.000It was white landowning fathers that discovered America, that built America into what it was.
00:08:56.000Well, that's a great question in terms of Generation Z.
00:08:59.000It's tough to say because, you know, at once you can look at a lot of the numbers, and I pointed that out in the speeches.
00:09:06.000You can look at a lot of the numbers in terms of it is, they are liberal.
00:09:11.000You know, you look at Generation Z, and it is liberal in terms of on homosexuality, abortion, the social issues, which I think are a pretty good barometer, a pretty good gauge of where they're at.
00:09:22.000You know, they're about as liberal as millennials.
00:09:25.000But if you look at similar numbers, it says they're less enthusiastic about these things.
00:09:29.000And so, kind of, where do you go with that?
00:09:30.000Because once you have, Numbers that say that church attendance is back up, that they believe in they're having a lot less casual sex, a lot less drug use than previous generations, and all the rest.
00:09:42.000So you have these kind of two ideas where, at once, they're kind of as liberal, they're in a very liberal system, and you just talk to a lot of them, and it can be disappointing.
00:09:50.000But then you look at the numbers and some other numbers, and it says they're traditional.
00:09:54.000And I think it's kind of, I got to be honest, I think it's kind of a toss up because I know that there are a lot of Generation Z people, and I hope that's not a cop out, but.
00:10:03.000There are a lot of Generation Z people who I believe are intuitively and instinctively pining for what you're talking about in terms of, and you're so on the money in terms of the people that founded the country being white Christian landowning fathers who came here and they had something to lose and they went to war for it and they put down their roots because it's so true.
00:10:26.000It's about all those actually conservative things, actually right wing things, as opposed to like, you know, drag queens at free speech rallies, actual conservative right wing things.
00:10:36.000And I think that Generation Z, as somebody of the generation and knowing lots of people in it, all my peers are Generation Z and younger, and a lot of people that watch my show are Generation Z and around that high school and college age, they are pining for that old world in ways where they look at, for example, hookup culture.
00:10:57.000And that's something that I brought up in the speech, where very instinctively people understand there's something wrong with shallow, carnal relationships that are ubiquitous in this day and age, where it's You know, beep, beep, boop.
00:11:09.000You find somebody on Tinder and then you meet up and you do whatever.
00:11:56.000Are we able to rebuild those kinds of social structures, social institutions, social norms, those kinds of things that society is built on?
00:12:07.000Are we able to bring back those traditions and can Generation Z reassert them?
00:12:11.000Or will it just be kind of an aimless, wandering, surrealist generation?
00:12:17.000It's kind of tough and it remains to be seen.
00:12:19.000I think a lot of it is political, a lot of it is cultural, but.
00:12:23.000You know, it's pretty tough to say one way or the other because, as you know, there is cultural domination by people who want to see it go in the wrong direction.
00:12:31.000You know, the people that are coming up nowadays are watching television movies brought up by teachers in primary, high school, and college who have very warped views.
00:12:40.000The music industry is controlled by these people.
00:12:43.000And so, at once, you have all these people being brought up in a system by other people that want to see them go down the wrong path, which is towards degeneracy, towards hedonism, towards.
00:12:54.000The path we've been on for a long time.
00:12:56.000And at the same time, there's this natural, I think, resistance to this that is building.
00:13:00.000And you see it in the milquetoast, like campus conservatism.
00:13:04.000I think you see it maybe most prominently in a guy like Jordan Peterson, who is at the most basic level expressing some kind of a father figure sentiment, like, hey, take responsibility, clean your room.
00:13:31.000So, from the beginning of the conversation, it seems that you two have agreed on the role of the boomer generation on the symptoms, if you will, the political symptoms, the openness to immigration, the lack of identity.
00:13:44.000But, Aze, do you follow Nick in concluding that the source of all of these symptoms, or a large part of these symptoms, is essentially the abandonment of God?
00:13:56.000Well, first of all, I absolutely agree with that, 100%.
00:14:03.000Call it Talmudic trickery, if you will.
00:14:04.000There was a reason that I really wanted to discuss this with Nick because it was my discussion with Nick in the first place that had me actually looking into this.
00:14:12.000I don't like it when people throw a statistic in my face and I don't really have enough information to either counter it or agree.
00:14:19.000And we were talking about leaders in the different religious communities, in the Catholic community, in the Jewish community, in the Protestant community.
00:14:25.000And we were talking about all of that.
00:14:26.000And I said my opinions, but I didn't have the full story on what was going on.
00:14:33.000And I started looking into it a little more, and I started noticing the trend when I was looking at all of the social science statistics.
00:14:39.000The leaders of the Jewish community, the leaders of the Catholic community, the leaders of, minus the evangelicals, the entire Protestant community, are very leftist.
00:14:51.000But the adherents are becoming further rightists.
00:14:54.000The people who are leading the churches themselves won't give communion to people who support abortion.
00:15:01.000Whereas, you know, the Pope has kind of backed off on it.
00:15:05.000The immigration debate is raging in the Catholic churches.
00:15:09.000They see open borders as a threat to the Catholic Church in both Europe and here.
00:15:14.000The Jewish leaders, while the vast majority of the vocal out there leaders are incredibly liberal, they're open borders freaks.
00:15:23.000But when you look at the more religious local communities, these are people that are rated at 93% support for President Trump and 92% support for closed borders.
00:15:35.000You know, and I'm looking into this more and more, and I'm noticing the congregations are getting younger.
00:15:41.000You know, the people who used to go to church and used to follow blindly aren't going anymore.
00:15:46.000They've either decided they've had their fill or that they've learned enough or it's not for them.
00:15:50.000But the younger generations are rejecting that and they're rejecting that en masse.
00:16:19.000I'm noticing it more and more and more.
00:16:21.000And that's why I wanted to ask Nick, like, what are you seeing from the other side?
00:16:24.000Because I obviously see it from the Orthodox Jewish side.
00:16:26.000So I don't see it from the Christian side.
00:16:28.000So what do you see with those type of things?
00:16:32.000Yeah, well, I think religion, it's no secret, I believe, that religion is fundamental to this kind of conservative or traditional revival.
00:16:40.000Because I know a lot of people that are conservative, right wing people.
00:16:44.000And without God, I don't really see the motivation in them or even.
00:16:49.000In a coherent way for their own ideology to really make things happen.
00:16:52.000And so I believe religion is fundamental.
00:16:54.000I think Christianity, Catholicism in particular, is fundamental to that.
00:16:58.000And I'll say that you're basically right in terms of the leadership is at a very different place than the people.
00:17:04.000And the Catholic Church is probably the most visible example of this, you know, because unlike the Jews and unlike the Protestants, the Catholic Church is very explicitly and very visibly hierarchical.
00:17:17.000You know, unlike the Protestants, we have a guy.
00:17:20.000Wears the big hat and makes the rules.
00:17:22.000You know, well, he doesn't make the rules, but you know what I mean by this.
00:17:24.000You know, he's the vicar of Christ on earth and all of that.
00:17:28.000And it's very telling because, of course, he is, by all intents and purposes, a left leaning pope in terms of his politics.
00:17:36.000He talks about openness for migrants and he has been relatively liberal.
00:17:42.000I say relatively because, you know, people say, oh, he's for homosexuality, he's for abortion.
00:17:47.000The doctrine hasn't changed and I don't think it will.
00:17:50.000But he's expressed some more sympathetic things, borderline heretical things, which are problematic, which that's a whole other rabbit hole.
00:17:57.000But while he's been over here, over on the left, you see that a lot of the Catholics that are coming up, the young Catholics that I talk to on Twitter, you know, the most radical, well, I shouldn't even say radical, maybe just the most common sense traditional Orthodox Catholics, they're not old guys.
00:18:12.000They're not like bearded, you know, fuddy duddy old geezers.
00:18:22.000I don't know if this is symptomatic of the rest of the population, but certainly I think that there is definitely something going on.
00:18:30.000I think the internet is a part of it, maybe, because we can communicate these ideas.
00:18:33.000Where before, if your teacher wasn't teaching it to you, if you were like a Gen X person, for example, or an older millennial, if you're growing up and you're coming of age in school and you're not being exposed to Aquinas and Augustine and like traditionalist Catholic literature, you're not going to search that out unless you're like some kind of a weird nerd or something.
00:18:53.000But if you're online, you do get exposed to that.
00:18:56.000But it's definitely coming back in a big way.
00:18:58.000And I think religious people are getting fed up because, you know, the whole point, the draw of religion, the appeal, the utility of religion is in its tradition, is in its orthodoxy.
00:19:09.000I mean, the whole point of having a church is to resist the tide of modernism and change and dynamism and all of that and progress.
00:19:17.000And because we don't really like progress, to be honest, we don't really even believe in it.
00:19:21.000And so when people don't get that from their church, when people don't get this, From a very changing, chaotic, surrealist, and meaningless world, they get upset.
00:19:32.000I think you see a big pushback from people who say, you know, we came to the church not to hear this crap about how, you know, oh, actually everybody's cool.
00:19:40.000We should tolerate degeneracy and all the rest.
00:19:42.000Like we came to hear how we're going to get to heaven, how we're going to get saved, how we can please God and all the rest.
00:20:16.000And she's always been very right wing, but she had a moving experience and she discovered Catholicism, you know.
00:20:22.000And this was recently, this is only a couple months ago.
00:20:25.000And she since has become like, I wouldn't say a zealot, but she's very, very adamant that Catholicism is the right way.
00:20:32.000And she's like, she's joined a writing team that writes against abortion and she goes to rallies and she's always looking to help people and talk to people.
00:20:40.000And this transformation was like amazing to watch.
00:20:43.000There was another transformation that I also saw, and this was a result of obviously.
00:20:48.000Gab's proliferation in the face of Twitter censorship.
00:20:53.000And that was the conference itself, the American Renaissance conference, was Paul Nolan was supposed to be there.
00:20:59.000And I know people blamed you for some reason for him not showing up, right?
00:21:05.000But then I noticed what was at the American Renaissance conference.
00:21:09.000I've watched every speech, I've seen people like Jared Taylor for years.
00:23:01.000Like, my kids go to private religious school.
00:23:03.000Like, I mean, I would rather eat out of a trash can and pay their tuition than let them go to public school.
00:23:08.000So, where do you see these solutions as being something that can actually happen?
00:23:14.000That's kind of where I wanted to go with that.
00:23:17.000Well, you know, it's tough because, of course, the institutional control is something that has eluded people of our persuasion for a long time.
00:23:26.000I mean, and we know, As we debated previously, which group kind of has a little bit of play in the institutions, whether it be media, Hollywood, the music industry, and all the rest.
00:23:37.000And it's one of those things where I think it's, you know, the question is, how do we get control of those?
00:23:44.000How do we get control of the reins there?
00:23:46.000Because the problem is, it wants a destruction of the family, but it's also sort of the adoption of the children by the state, by the corporations.
00:23:54.000I mean, you think about how a child was raised maybe 50 or 60 years ago, and they went to a local school, and they went to a local school for education, by the way.
00:24:02.000They went there to learn math and reading.
00:24:05.000They didn't go there to learn liberation theology and social justice and morals.
00:24:45.000And you have to think about how people get their ideas, how people become the way that they are.
00:24:50.000And by and large, you know, we're a product of our childhood.
00:24:53.000When we grow up from the time we're born until the time we're an adult, and even after when we're a little bit older through college and through into the workforce, we are basically force fed a diet that is regulated, a diet that is regulated by a very particular group of people.
00:25:44.000Um, it really no, I'm not going to give the Jordan Peterson of oh, there's five traits or whatever.
00:25:49.000The only explanation that I can give is even Andrew Anglin estimates that Jewish representation in the media is about 25%.
00:25:57.00025% of B level jobs and higher are occupied by Jews, right?
00:26:01.000The only way that a statistical model works where you say 2% of the population makes up 25% of the media is if the media is logically spread evenly throughout the entire country.
00:26:14.000Every single major media hub is in New York City, where Jews are 23%.
00:26:20.000So, when you look at the fact that every single major media hub, Fox News, NBC, all the public broadcasting channels, most of the cable channels, all of the international news are in New York City, where Jews make up 23%, and that's not counting the suburbs.
00:26:35.000Also, it's the most expensive media market in the entire country.
00:26:38.000They're going to play to the media market that pays them the most, and New York City is more liberal than California.
00:26:44.000So, when you look at those two things, is it evil?
00:27:51.000He's not such an asshole, like, where he's like, No, this is my way or whatever.
00:27:54.000Like, when Kafnis came out with his paper and I asked him what he thought of it, he said, I won't comment on it until I've done the research to reply.
00:28:06.000You know, he's actually a very nice guy.
00:28:08.000I disagree with him on most things, but he's just a very nice guy.
00:28:12.000Now, I think that a lot of what we've been discussing up to now revolves around information control.
00:28:18.000And both the dramatic state of the boomer generations and the hope that we can see in future generations, I think, revolves around what kind of informational environment we raise our children in.
00:28:32.000And when you talk to someone who's above 40 or 50 years old, you can feel it.
00:28:37.000They come from a completely different world.
00:28:40.000Than us who are connected on the internet and who follow the idea of the right on the internet.
00:28:48.000So, about this information control, do you think that it will just improve by itself, Nick, out of the simple fact that we are on the internet, that now individuals are taking over entire sectors that used to be organized by mainstream media?
00:29:06.000Or do we have to actively seek more solutions than those that emerge naturally right now?
00:29:12.000Well, yeah, I mean, that gets to the broader point I was trying to make about how do we make these things come about.
00:29:18.000And you're right in terms of it is about information, it is about control over the mediums of communication for these kinds of ideas.
00:29:28.000And, you know, McLuhan was a great thinker about this.
00:29:31.000I encourage everybody, because it's a very little read author this day and age.
00:29:35.000I don't know why, but it took me a while to hear of a McLuhan.
00:29:49.000But you know, I think it has to be a very active and grassroots campaign in the sense that people are looking towards these grand political designs of, well, you know, we need to take over the country or there has to be this dramatic revolution or we have to do this, that, and the other.
00:30:08.000And I would never discount political reform as a means to an end, but what we have to do is get people.
00:30:16.000Children in particular, back under the care of normal people, not the lizard people in media.
00:30:21.000So that means that, for example, Halsey says he's putting his kids in private school.
00:30:26.000That's the kind of thing that's going to change the balance.
00:30:29.000I have it in my head that if people who are aware of these kinds of things homeschool their kids or put them in private school, they limit the amount of media that they consume from the corporations, or maybe they get their media from somewhere else.
00:30:42.000If regular people basically just take charge and assert that responsibility, I think that will do a lot.
00:30:50.000In the way of making a movement, it's all about snowballing.
00:30:52.000You know, I wouldn't sit here and tell you, you know, I've got a design, I've got a plan for how we're going to make it all okay, because this is rarely how these things work in history.
00:31:02.000In all great movements, you know, whether it's the Bolsheviks or anybody else, nobody sits around a table and says, you know, this is how we're going to plot how we were to create the Soviet Union or how we would create, you know, this great empire.
00:31:13.000It tends to work bit by bit, it tends to work a little bit differently.
00:31:17.000So I would say that if we take those kinds of steps towards reclaiming, Reclaiming our communities, reclaiming our families.
00:31:26.000I think that would do a lot in the way of building some kind of network, building some kind of base for the change that we need to see more broadly.
00:31:34.000Because you'll never, I mean, you talk about these major media corporations and social media companies.
00:31:39.000You can engage in lawfare, you can engage in political reform, but by and large, you're not going to be able to get a traditionalist Catholic Caesar in control of all the media or in control of Hollywood or anything like that.
00:31:52.000So we have to think in more creative ways, we have to think in more indirect ways.
00:31:58.000How can we best beat back this legacy system?
00:32:01.000How can we best beat back this institutionalized big money system?
00:32:05.000And I think it's just through localism, through communities.
00:32:21.000So she doesn't feel comfortable educating the kids because if she educates them wrong, she would feel responsible for them not getting the right education.
00:32:30.000So, we don't homeschool for that reason, but she doesn't work.
00:35:47.000I think so much of the old stuff, the WN 1.0, even the alt right stuff, it just has to be scrapped entirely for the sole reason that it hasn't worked.
00:35:58.000They have this weird attachment to things that don't work, and that's really problematic.
00:36:02.000You know, some of the lessons we can learn from the Zionists, and if you read about them, it's fascinating.
00:36:07.000Not because, you know, look, and we have our issues with Israel and our aid for them, but, you know, just purely speaking from an objective point of view in terms of they had an incredible goal, a pretty fantastic goal, which was when Turkey controlled Palestine, they said, we want to put down a Jewish homeland there, and they accomplished that in 50 years, and it was through ruthless pragmatism, and we have to embrace the same method.
00:36:30.000This, I don't know, that we're wedded to the optics of 1488 and Adolf Hitler and, or, you know, this broader movement the alt right has for so long, it sets us back a long way and it becomes an obstacle to the real objective.
00:37:22.000There was something interesting you had said about a Christian Zionist kind of alliance.
00:37:26.000I think that's a very, very bad idea because I think ethnocentrism and ethno nationalism thrives best when left alone.
00:37:36.000That the worst thing that can happen on an ethnic movement is outside influence and outside pressure because it will never be that both groups' interests completely align.
00:37:47.000You know, the whole purpose of ethno nationalism is that their interests don't align with other ethnicities.
00:37:54.000So I understand people's criticism of Israel.
00:37:59.000And I can say it's a country like any others.
00:38:02.000Of course, there's going to have problems, they're going to have good things and bad things and whatever.
00:38:07.000I would personally like to see America and the Christian world basically leave Israel alone and just not try to get involved in Israeli politics for good or for bad.
00:38:15.000I don't think America should be giving Israel aid.
00:38:20.000I think welfare in any form stifles growth.
00:38:23.000And I think that if Israel were allowed to build its own military industries and its own technology industries independent of America, but as a trade partner, it would be better off than giving any kind of aid to Israel in order to accomplish financial needs.
00:38:36.000It also promotes the deep state military industrial complex, which is not a good thing.
00:38:41.000You know, but in America, we have the same thing.
00:38:43.000We have people that have ethnic movements.
00:38:46.000They have ethnic groups, whether they be Christian, whether they be Catholic.
00:38:49.000And the majority of America is majority white.
00:38:52.000If you look at LA, then yes, you're wrong.
00:38:55.000Whites are absolutely a minority and will probably continue to be so for a very long time.
00:39:24.000They live in places where there just are no Jews and they had no opinion, good or bad, because they never even gave it and they thought.
00:39:31.000And that's something that white people can learn from and are accomplishing in the places where you see the deepest support for President Trump, the deepest support for curbing immigration, the deepest support for fighting communism.
00:39:44.000These are the places where white majorities already exist and they're big.
00:39:50.000They're not just these little pockets of land that are overcrowded in apartments without the ability to own your own piece of America, without your ability to build your own business.
00:40:01.000These are the places where white people can grow and thrive because they already are.
00:40:07.000These are the places where an education still matters because there aren't so much overcrowding of jobs with useless college degrees like gender studies and garbage like that.
00:40:17.000If you get a welding certificate, you're in demand.
00:40:20.000There's over a million skilled labor jobs in America.
00:40:23.000That are unfilled because no one can fill them.
00:40:32.000Because Zionism, like you said, it established what they were looking to in a very short period of time in a very hostile place.
00:40:39.000Generation Z, I think, are getting to that.
00:40:42.000They're realizing that just taking a mortgage at 20% because someone says, here's some free money, is not worth it if you can't pay it back because you'll never own what you're paying on.
00:40:50.000They're saying, I'm not going to go $150,000 in debt.
00:40:53.000To go to college for a degree that isn't going to make me more than 45 grand a year when I get out.
00:41:12.000But you've decided that your life is going to make a difference here, as opposed to trying to just be involved in whatever path you thought was the right one from the beginning.
00:41:22.000You know, like this is what I see Generation Z doing.
00:41:29.000People are saying, I'll be comfortable making decent money as opposed to making a lot of money.
00:41:33.000That's why I wrote you the super chat before.
00:41:35.000I didn't say everybody now wants jobs.
00:41:38.000I said a lot of people who would disagree with Mike Enoch would say that I'm more interested in a job than what he has to say.
00:41:45.000But I'm just saying that it just seems that a lot of people right now are chasing their dreams, and those dreams are actually bringing them to the same place of kind of an American, I want to say unity, but it seems a little cheesy, you know, but that's what I see.
00:42:00.000To say 1488, even if it had validity or no validity, it's a European German ideal.
00:43:19.000And what I explained to this newspaper is if you find any problem with the 14 words, the words themselves and their meaning, you are essentially calling for the genocide of white people.
00:43:33.000Now, on the Hail Hitler, I used a little bit of my mad scientist approach to the world.
00:43:38.000And I explained look, there are people who want to salute Adolf Hitler.
00:43:47.000Saying I to Hitler, does it mean that Hitler has done everything right?
00:43:53.000But what it means is that there is a segment of the population on YouTube who say, I want to have some memory for the man Adolf Hitler because some of his goals might have been demonized in modern times and not everything that he's done and not everything that he's wanted was wrong.
00:44:12.000And that's what I explained to the newspaper.
00:44:14.000It is, look, First, they are Americans, those who use these numbers, I think, on my channel.
00:44:21.000And so they have a right to claim their own existence and they have a right to call for the memory of a man who they find maybe had some good ideas.
00:44:32.000I don't think there's any leader that's devoid of good ideas.
00:44:37.000You know, I don't, it's very rare that you find, and I'm not praising Hitler.
00:44:41.000What I'm saying is that there's no such thing as a leader of a nation, especially one that survives more than six months.
00:44:48.000You know, where every single thing that they ever said was just completely off the ball and stupid.
00:44:53.000Otherwise, literally no one would follow them.
00:44:55.000There'd be no reason, like, even the military, no one's that rich, you know, that you can just buy a military and say, that's it, I'm taking over.
00:45:02.000But again, you judge things on its totality.
00:45:05.000You know, like, did Hitler bring Germany out of a raging recession?
00:45:36.000So any leader, I think, can be judged on that level.
00:45:39.000And if you want to say, oh, this one had a good idea, sure.
00:45:42.000Everybody has good ideas and good intentions sometimes.
00:45:46.000But if you look at the totality, that's what matters.
00:45:49.000Well, and the trick is with Hitler is that.
00:45:52.000The mythology of Hitler is so important in the present political conversation.
00:45:59.000So, you know, while it is bad optics, there does have to be a reconciliation with the fact that 70 or 80 years later, we're still living in the shadow of this ideological fight between the Marxists, the Bolsheviks, and the fascists or the Nazis.
00:46:16.000And so while I would never go out there saying 88 or anything like that, of course, Hitler was reprehensible and all the rest.
00:46:23.000If we could engage for a moment in a little bit of critical thought here, history and the left and the media, they need a figure like Hitler.
00:47:00.000And the reason they need it is because this is their shortcut to invalidating anything that is white solidarity, anything that is white racial consciousness, anything that is nationalist, anything that is traditionalist.
00:47:14.000Because, of course, what is always the knee jerk, reflexive impulse of the left when you talk about white consciousness, about the beauty of white people, the survival of white people?
00:47:31.000For an R rated movie where it's graphic violence and nudity and all the rest, it's 18 and up.
00:47:37.000But they'll show you from the time you're five years old in every public school.
00:47:40.000Now it's mandated in every public school, I think, in many states, that they show the most graphic images of people in the camps.
00:47:48.000And, you know, never mind that, you know, some of them died from typhus and never mind that some of them died from other things.
00:47:53.000They're going to show the propaganda reel, they're going to show the whole wartime, what they call atrocity propaganda.
00:48:01.000And look, you know, of course it happened.
00:48:02.000I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I am saying that the left needs that to stop critical thinking.
00:48:08.000The left needs that to shut down conversation.
00:48:12.000And so while I would never go out there, and Hitler was a reprehensible guy and what he did was evil, but that's why they can never allow a conversation on it.
00:48:19.000Because if there was a conversation about, you know, well, what really happened?
00:48:27.000Well, then the entire infrastructure, the entire mythology crumbles.
00:48:31.000Because right now, The left relies on that to have Antifa, to have left wing ANCOM violence, and all the rest is because fascism is evil and it's taking over.
00:48:41.000And, you know, God forbid we had a strong and charismatic orator who led the nation in some less than liberal fashion.
00:48:48.000You know, God forbid that ever happened.
00:48:50.000So I disavow the 88, but, you know, I do understand where people are coming from, I guess, when they say something like that.
00:49:03.000So, if you can always make Hitler the ultimate villain, then Stalin, for all of his 60 million people that he killed and for all of the ruin that he brought on his own country, he fought against the ultimate evil.
00:49:15.000So, therefore, he can get a pass, and therefore, communism is not such a bad thing because it beat Hitler.
00:49:21.000So, I mean, when you guys on Worski Live had Aiden on, and Kevin Logan was going at her about, was it four million?
00:49:58.000Like, no, millions of people dying is a bad thing, no matter what.
00:50:01.000If they're killed by a leader, it's a bad thing, no matter what.
00:50:04.000So I don't understand why anybody would be afraid of it.
00:50:08.000And this Holocaust industry, That teaches the Holocaust to every young child out there is not just brainwashing, but it's doing something that enables them to grasp onto the horrible side of humanity.
00:50:26.000You know, they're able to know from that young, young age that whatever you do that can possibly be considered this, you know, you have to stop doing.
00:50:36.000So, again, you can always point to, well, Stalin fought Hitler in World War II.
00:50:42.000So, if from a young age you remember these horrible pictures of the camps and you remember that Hitler was the ultimate villain and this horrible, horrible person who did all these horrible things, then as you're growing up, you're like, well, I don't want to be Hitler.
00:50:54.000So, Stalin must have at least had a couple good ideas or must have at least cared enough because he went in and liberated the camps.
00:51:03.000And this Holocaust industry yes, there are lots of things to be learned from the Holocaust by a person who's able to engage in critical thought.
00:51:12.000And a child is not able to be engaged in critical thought.
00:51:15.000They're unable to be scared the shit out of, which never works.
00:51:18.000All it does is lead to conspiracy theory later in life.
00:54:29.000Mark Nanman says, Nick, if Pope Francis canonized Alzey as a saint, even though he was a Christ rejecting Jew, would you accept or reject him as a heretic anti pope?
00:54:41.000Well, that's kind of a weird question.
00:55:29.000I thank all of the people in the chat who have, uh, Participated with lots of energy in that discussion, sometimes taking sides, sometimes just praising our guests, sometimes insulting our guests.
00:56:35.000Shale, one thing I normally don't, but on Wednesday on Luke Ford, me and him are going to be hosting Greg Cochran, which I think is going to be a really fun conversation.
00:56:45.000So if you guys come out Wednesday, we'd love to have you.