America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Optics And Aesthetics Feat. Ricky Vaughn | America First Ep. 103

00:00:02.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:03.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:05.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:10.000 Lots to get into, lots to talk about domestically, internationally.

00:00:15.000 And we have a great guest joining us at 7 30, the man himself, Ricky Vaughn.

00:00:21.000 We are big fans of Ricky Vaughn on the show, and we finally got him, so he'll be joining us in about a half hour.

00:00:27.000 And just announced, just decided, I will be joining.

00:00:33.000 Andy Worski and JF.

00:00:35.000 In an hour after the show is over, I will be joining Worski for some more Bloodsports after the show.

00:00:41.000 So, lots going on here tonight.

00:00:43.000 Lots of content being produced.

00:00:45.000 Lots of things going on.

00:00:47.000 We have a very exciting show for you just a day after our one year anniversary.

00:00:52.000 And we are here.

00:00:53.000 We're out again making it happen.

00:00:56.000 Day one of year two here.

00:00:58.000 But there is much to get into.

00:01:00.000 Of course, we have a U.S. led coalition airstrike.

00:01:04.000 Against pro Assad forces in Syria.

00:01:07.000 What's going on with that, folks?

00:01:09.000 What's going on with that?

00:01:11.000 Not a lot of people reporting on it.

00:01:12.000 It was all of a sudden, I think it was only about an hour ago that this was reported on initially, and we'll get into why that happened.

00:01:20.000 New text messages in the Peter Sturzak saga, which may actually indict Barack Obama.

00:01:26.000 He may have had his I did not have sexual relations moment a couple of years ago.

00:01:32.000 And of course, we are getting around to.

00:01:35.000 A conclusion to the second possible government shutdown.

00:01:38.000 Senate leaders have agreed as of this afternoon to a bill which would fund the government throughout the next fiscal year and impose spending caps for the next two years.

00:01:49.000 And so that'll be drafted and written up.

00:01:51.000 And we'll get into that.

00:01:52.000 But I think the first thing that I want to talk about, before we get into any of the news, we have to just talk about this real quick.

00:01:58.000 And I'm sure we'll talk about this with Ricky Vaughn as well.

00:02:01.000 I've just been seeing a lot of this on Twitter, and something has to be said.

00:02:05.000 All right.

00:02:06.000 Something has to be said.

00:02:07.000 We have to do a little PSA. 0.98

00:02:10.000 I'm the only one, I guess, with the balls to speak out about it. 0.88

00:02:14.000 Something has to be done about the woke posting on Twitter. 0.94

00:02:18.000 And you guys, I'm sure, know what I'm talking about.

00:02:21.000 Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

00:02:23.000 But if you've been on Twitter a lot, if you've been on Twitter for as long as the election was going on and until now, you tend to see the same kinds of things being tweeted out the same slogans, the same phrases, the same memes, the same white genocide stuff.

00:02:40.000 And I've been noticing this for a little while now.

00:02:42.000 I've been noticing this for the past couple of months where it didn't really bother me so much before, and I couldn't really articulate what it was up until pretty recently.

00:02:51.000 But I've been noticing that people tend to post, and it's all the same people, by the way, it's all the same accounts.

00:02:58.000 They tend to post just the exact same stuff, the exact same phrases, the exact same messaging about, oh, diversity is code for anti white, and diversity only applies to white people. 0.72

00:03:10.000 And you know, look, I agree with a lot of what's being said by these accounts.

00:03:14.000 And a perfect example of these are, I think, Will West something, Will West something.

00:03:22.000 There's a number of other ones.

00:03:24.000 Usually they're anonymous accounts.

00:03:25.000 And it's all the same stuff.

00:03:27.000 It's this easy bait.

00:03:29.000 It's this fodder that they throw out.

00:03:31.000 They know it'll get a good reaction.

00:03:33.000 They know it'll get a ton of likes, a ton of retweets.

00:03:35.000 It's an injection of dopamine straight into the veins.

00:03:38.000 I think that's what it's about for a lot of them.

00:03:41.000 And it's the same tired stuff.

00:03:42.000 And we have to speak out against that because this is not effective political messaging.

00:03:47.000 Some people might say, Nick.

00:03:49.000 They're not doing us any harm.

00:03:51.000 What's the harm in going out there and tweeting that?

00:03:53.000 Yeah, maybe it's not the most original, but people are at different stages of their red pilling.

00:03:58.000 And here's why I speak out against it because in order to remain effective, we have to remain relevant.

00:04:05.000 In order to remain relevant, we have to remain fresh.

00:04:08.000 We have to remain original.

00:04:10.000 And so the uninspired, the salty, the joyless, ass blasted posting that we see all day long on the part of many people, it feels like an obligation to like and retweet this stuff. 0.86

00:04:22.000 It just really sucks all the life out of it. 0.88

00:04:24.000 And so, just a really brief PSA on that.

00:04:27.000 I don't want to spend too much time because it's admittedly kind of a trivial thing, but.

00:04:31.000 I do notice it and it just really gets under my skin.

00:04:34.000 These people must believe. 0.99

00:04:36.000 They must believe that if we tweet the same shit, maybe 25 or 30 times more, we'll finally have the political reforms we desire. 0.98

00:04:45.000 If we only tweet out a couple of more pictures, the same memes, the same pictures of MS-13, the same pictures of this was Paris before immigration, this is Paris after immigration, this is architecture before modernism, this is architecture after modernism. 0.99

00:05:02.000 And the same stuff over and over.

00:05:04.000 Oh, well, then maybe we'll finally get, and it's not going to happen.

00:05:07.000 So, just a little note there.

00:05:10.000 Just a little brief note.

00:05:11.000 Let's try a little harder, folks.

00:05:13.000 Let's make some better content, fresher, more exciting, more new, more relevant, less joyless.

00:05:19.000 Keep it funny at all times.

00:05:21.000 But, just a brief little thing.

00:05:23.000 With that out of the way, that was just a brief little thing.

00:05:25.000 I'm going to take a lot of heat for that, as usual, because you launch any kind of mild criticism, and then you get, oh, Nick, you're starting drama, Nick.

00:05:33.000 You're punching your own people.

00:05:34.000 You don't punch the left.

00:05:35.000 You know, okay, toughen up, please.

00:05:38.000 But with that out of the way, we do have serious news to talk about.

00:05:42.000 And the first thing I want to talk about is the Syria strike, another airstrike in Syria.

00:05:48.000 And almost a year after the first one, almost a year after the 59 Tomahawk missiles that were launched against the Homs airfield in Syria on April 6th or 7th.

00:06:00.000 I think it was April 7th of last year.

00:06:02.000 As we have a fresh airstrike.

00:06:04.000 This evening, this comes after an Israeli airstrike, actually, this morning, south of Damascus.

00:06:10.000 This airstrike, they didn't say where in Syria it was.

00:06:14.000 I assume it was in northern Syria.

00:06:16.000 But U.S. military officials have said that this was in response to a pro regime attack on the headquarters of the Syrian Defense Forces.

00:06:26.000 And of course, the Syrian Defense Force is actually kind of a euphemism.

00:06:30.000 That's like a new name for the YPG, which is the People's Protection Units, which is an extension of.

00:06:37.000 The PKK, the Kurdistan Workers' Party.

00:06:40.000 And so the SDF is technically aligned with the United States.

00:06:44.000 They are in northeastern Syria.

00:06:46.000 And so this airstrike led by the United States against pro Assad, pro regime forces, was said to be in response to an unprovoked attack on the SDF headquarters in northeastern Syria, which was innocently carrying out their anti ISIS assault, their anti ISIS mission.

00:07:05.000 And the reason I bring it up is because a lot of people will say, they'll point to things that are going on in the Middle East.

00:07:11.000 They'll point to Afghanistan, like we were talking about on Monday.

00:07:13.000 They'll point to the Tomahawk strike last year.

00:07:16.000 They'll point to the airstrike this evening.

00:07:18.000 And I'm sure as I'm saying this, I'm sure as we're talking about it on the show right now, alt right people on Twitter and alt right personalities are tweeting or live streaming or commenting, writing furiously articles about how Donald Trump has sold this out.

00:07:35.000 Donald Trump has been taken over by the neocons. 0.57

00:07:38.000 The West Wing has been infiltrated and taken over by the Warhawks and the Israelites and all these other folks.

00:07:45.000 And the administration is compromised, and it's all over.

00:07:48.000 Another airstrike in Syria.

00:07:50.000 He's no better than George Bush.

00:07:51.000 We'll hear a lot of that refrain.

00:07:53.000 And the reason I bring it up is because it couldn't be further from the truth. 1.00

00:07:57.000 If you actually look at what has been going on in the Middle East for the past couple of weeks, you look at it in the context geographically, in terms of the other events that have happened very recently, this was actually probably the best thing that could have happened.

00:08:12.000 This is probably the least hawkish thing that could have happened.

00:08:15.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:08:16.000 You might be thinking to yourself, Nick, the United States did an airstrike in Syria, and you're telling me that that's going to lead to peace in Syria?

00:08:25.000 You're telling me that an airstrike.

00:08:27.000 That the United States intervening in a sovereign state's civil war and its internal affairs is actually good for the United States?

00:08:35.000 That's actually going to put off more dangerous and more perilous conflicts?

00:08:40.000 The answer is yes, and I'll tell you why. 0.70

00:08:42.000 It might seem counterintuitive, but if you've been watching the news in Syria for the past couple of weeks, and we've talked about it on the show a little bit last week, what's happening right now in Syria is that Turkey is invading from the north.

00:08:57.000 Right now, if you look at a map of Syria, in northern Syria, Central and northern Syria, I'm referring to the latitude, in central northern Syria, right up on top in Afrin, the Turkish government is waging an offensive against the Kurds there, the YPG or the SDF. 0.54

00:09:18.000 It goes by all these different acronyms, but they're all the same. 0.63

00:09:21.000 It's all the same. 0.93

00:09:22.000 In this little enclave in northern Syria and in the entire northeastern part of Syria, you have control of the country by the Kurds. 0.82

00:09:32.000 They go by the PKK or the YPG or the SDF, but it is the Kurds, and they are allied with the United States.

00:09:39.000 For the past couple of weeks in Afrin, in northern Syria, in that little enclave, Turkey has invaded, and they said, We're going to go 100 miles south into Syria.

00:09:49.000 They've now invaded sovereign Syrian land to take over Kurdish lands.

00:09:54.000 And they say that the reason they're doing that is because they've been at war with the PKK for 30 years.

00:10:00.000 They see the Kurds in this region as an extension of the PKK.

00:10:04.000 And they think that it is intolerable, it's unacceptable for them to have this much of their border with Syria controlled by Kurds, which in their estimation are terrorists, are enemies of the Turkish government.

00:10:16.000 So they've invaded in Afrin, and they're working their way down there.

00:10:20.000 They're going to go 100 miles down south, they're going to drive down. 0.80

00:10:23.000 And then they said once they finish that, once they've taken over Afrin, which is a city in that northern enclave, they're going to march east, and they're going to march east across. 0.59

00:10:35.000 This sort of thing, these are not Turkish forces, but they're anti regime forces that separate this little enclave in the north from the northeastern enclave of the Kurds. 0.81

00:10:45.000 They're going to march through that.

00:10:46.000 They're going to march through those pro Turkish forces, and they're going to make their way to a city called Manbij, which is in that northeastern part that's held by the Kurds.

00:10:56.000 In Manbij, and I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that right, if it's Manbij or Manbij, but in that little city in the northeastern part that's controlled by the Kurds, you have the United States stationed there.

00:11:06.000 You have United States troops.

00:11:08.000 United States logistical support, United States special operatives.

00:11:12.000 And Turkey has said, look, the United States, we are NATO allies with you.

00:11:17.000 We don't want to fight you. 0.98

00:11:18.000 But if you're in Manbij, we're still going to move on Manbij and we're going to take it over because we will not allow the Kurds to control this much of our border with Syria. 0.98

00:11:27.000 And so once Turkey makes their drive into Afrin, once they take over Afrin in that northern enclave, they're going to march east across those pro Turkish forces and they're going to go into Manbij in the northeast where the U.S. is. 0.93

00:11:41.000 And Erdogan has said, If the U.S. is there, we're still attacking.

00:11:44.000 We will attack the United States.

00:11:46.000 And you understand that's a very big deal because Turkey is NATO allies with the United States. 0.84

00:11:52.000 It's written in the NATO Constitution, Article 5, that an attack on one NATO member country is an attack on all.

00:12:00.000 Well, what do you do if Turkey attacks the United States?

00:12:04.000 If one NATO member attacks another, well, then the entire defense alliance falls apart.

00:12:08.000 And also, of course, Turkey is an ally of the United States, a very important country geostrategically.

00:12:14.000 It has been historically for 70 years, longer than that, even.

00:12:19.000 And Turkey is an important ally here, an important state that we should remain in good, I guess, in their good graces because Russia is now vying for a seat in the court of Ankara in Turkey for influence not only in the Middle East but in Northern Africa and in Eastern Europe.

00:12:36.000 So they're an important country that, you know, besides the fact that we're NATO allies, we don't want to mess with them totally.

00:12:42.000 And so you might be thinking to yourself, how do we avoid this confrontation?

00:12:46.000 If Turkey is saying, we're going to march over there and we're going to attack you, But we need to not abandon the Kurds.

00:12:51.000 We can't abandon our allies.

00:12:53.000 We might not like them.

00:12:54.000 We might think they're unsavory, but they did help us defeat ISIS.

00:12:58.000 And we are their allies.

00:12:59.000 And the United States gave them their word that we would protect them.

00:13:02.000 But our word that we're going to protect the Kurds is now putting us in trouble with Turkey because Turkey is telling us if you don't back out, if you don't fly out, we're going to come and we're going to attack you with the Kurds anyway.

00:13:15.000 So what are we to do?

00:13:16.000 What is the United States to do?

00:13:19.000 Well, here's what they do.

00:13:20.000 President Trump orders an airstrike on Syria in response to an unprovoked attack on the SDF headquarters, which is in that northeastern province.

00:13:29.000 The SDF, which is really the Kurds, which is really the YPG, which is an extension of the PKK.

00:13:35.000 They say the Assad regime has attacked us and we will conduct an airstrike against them.

00:13:39.000 And what do the military officials say immediately after the strike?

00:13:42.000 They say the United States' right to self defense is non negotiable.

00:13:50.000 And of course, this is.

00:13:52.000 This is a subtweet.

00:13:53.000 This is a message to Erdogan.

00:13:55.000 You know, you think out of a clear blue sky, Trump has got all these things on his plate.

00:13:59.000 He's got the Olympics in North Korea, and he's got NAFTA renegotiated, and he's got this thing going on domestically, and he's got the DACA bill, and we've got to fund the government.

00:14:10.000 You think we're going to go to war with Syria, folks?

00:14:13.000 Or do you think it's much more plausible that it's preferable out of the options that are on the table, we either abandon our Kurdish allies or we go to war with Turkey?

00:14:24.000 Or we do an airstrike against pro Assad forces.

00:14:27.000 We do a small, limited tactical strike against a country that we've been more or less at war with diplomatically or militarily for the past 30 years, which was on our state sponsors of terror list for 40 years.

00:14:42.000 A regime that we've never gotten along with, a regime that we sanctioned, a regime that we've hit before, a regime that has no power, that their military is very weak.

00:14:50.000 We could knock it over if we pleased. 0.77

00:14:52.000 As a message, we attack them as a message to Turkey. 0.99

00:14:55.000 I think it'd be preferable to hit them as opposed to Turkey, don't you think? 1.00

00:14:59.000 No cost, no risk. 0.99

00:15:01.000 There's no risk of escalation, really. 1.00

00:15:02.000 The Syrians can't really bring the fight to us, and why would they? 1.00

00:15:08.000 And then we get to send a message to the Turks that we will defend ourselves and that our right is non negotiable. 0.98

00:15:13.000 We take it very seriously.

00:15:14.000 No risk, and we could stave off a potential conflict with Turkey, which would be catastrophic in more ways than one. 0.84

00:15:21.000 So that's the Syria strike. 0.92

00:15:24.000 It's my first impression. 0.61

00:15:25.000 That's my first impression.

00:15:26.000 And we still don't know how many casualties there were on the Syrian side.

00:15:30.000 We still don't know the scope of the attack.

00:15:33.000 And so details are forthcoming.

00:15:35.000 This is still pretty fresh, still pretty brand new stuff.

00:15:39.000 But I see something like that, and I anticipate the freak out.

00:15:43.000 I anticipate the rhetoric, which will be Trump is a warmonger.

00:15:46.000 Trump is George Bush.

00:15:47.000 This is exactly what we heard in the buildup to Iraq. 1.00

00:15:51.000 And it is just simply ignorant. 0.92

00:15:54.000 It is worst possible case scenario thinking. 0.91

00:15:57.000 And you're ignoring the broader context of other plausible and probable explanations there.

00:16:04.000 So I think that's what's going on in Syria.

00:16:06.000 So don't freak out. 0.88

00:16:07.000 A small white pill there for you. 0.84

00:16:08.000 If you saw that, and you might think Nick Fuentes, BTFO, they're pulling out of Iraq, but they're pouring into Syria. 0.67

00:16:14.000 Not quite.

00:16:15.000 Not quite. 0.86

00:16:16.000 So that's Syria.

00:16:17.000 That was the airstrike.

00:16:18.000 Nobody's talking about that because it's brand new, but only my 250 IQ supercomputer brain, supercomputer tech, and supercomputer brain is fast enough to process and put it into context.

00:16:32.000 My OODA loop is faster than anybody else in the game. 0.98

00:16:36.000 But that's Syria. 0.98

00:16:37.000 The next thing we want to talk about, and it looks like we only have about 10 minutes before we get Ricky Vaughn on, so I'm not sure we'll get to the Sturzok text messages, but I think we will get to the more important story here.

00:16:49.000 Is the spending bill.

00:16:50.000 The spending bill, which everybody thought, and I think we thought on the show, that it was headed towards another government shutdown.

00:16:56.000 It looks like that has been averted.

00:16:59.000 So, as we've been talking about for a couple of weeks, the next government shutdown would have been on February 8th, would have been midnight on Thursday evening.

00:17:09.000 That would be when the three week stopgap measure, which was passed two Mondays ago, would expire and the government would run out of money and we would enter another government shutdown.

00:17:18.000 Well, it looks like.

00:17:20.000 The Senate has made a deal.

00:17:22.000 The Senate leaders in both parties have made a deal to fund the government in the long term.

00:17:28.000 Both Republicans and Democrats have come to the table and they've decided on what they're going to do about a long term budget compromise for the whole fiscal year.

00:17:37.000 So, the way it's been working out for the past six or nine months or so, and we went into detail on this when we talked about it during the first government shutdown in January, the way it's been operating for this year.

00:17:50.000 And the way it's been operating every year since 2016, and with few exceptions really since 2010, is that we do these temporary stopgap measures where we fund the government for a limited period of time, and then either we run into a debt ceiling or we run into the government runs out of money.

00:18:06.000 And this is a result of the fact that the budget process requires bipartisanship, it requires cooperation between the two parties to pass a budget for an entire year, and that's been sorely lacking for a long time.

00:18:21.000 Year long budgets instead of getting budgets for the whole fiscal year like it's intended to be, we get these three month, six month, nine month stopgap measures.

00:18:29.000 As we had a three week extension the last time, and now it looks like the Republicans and the Democrats have sat down, they've made a deal to fund the government for an entire year and put in place spending caps for the next two years.

00:18:43.000 Problem is now that'll take about another three weeks to draft it, to write it, to put it all together.

00:18:49.000 And so it's looking like Republicans and Democrats will pass another three week stopgap measure sometime this week.

00:18:55.000 They'll pass another short term spending bill on top of the one that was passed three weeks ago to keep the government funded for another three weeks, or excuse me, another six weeks to give them time to figure out what they're going to fund for the rest of the year.

00:19:08.000 And the deal that they've talked about, the compromise that they've made, is that they will end finally the sequester that was put into place by Barack Obama in 2011, and that'll give an injection of $80 billion into our defense budget and $60 billion into the rest of the budget.

00:19:27.000 Democrats were pretty insistent that there would be parity.

00:19:31.000 And what parity means is that the ending to the sequester, the ending to the sequestered spending, would be equal both in military spending and in domestic spending, which would mean that if $80 billion went into defense, they'd get $80 billion for domestic.

00:19:45.000 They only got $60 billion for defense, or excuse me, for everything else, for domestic.

00:19:51.000 But Chuck Schumer said that's fine.

00:19:52.000 This is genuine bipartisanship, and we look forward to passing it.

00:19:56.000 What will complicate things eventually is the fact that the timetable that we're talking about for the long term budget to be passed, they say they need six weeks to write the bill.

00:20:06.000 They say they need six weeks to write and prepare this bill to fund the government for the next year, to end the sequester, to put in place these spending caps.

00:20:14.000 Over the course of this timetable, DACA expires on March 5th.

00:20:19.000 Six weeks will be the end of March.

00:20:22.000 DACA expires in the beginning of March.

00:20:24.000 All those legal protections for the 690,000 or so DACA applicants, DACA recipients, those legal protections will be rescinded officially on March 5th for all of them. 0.98

00:20:35.000 And though the Department of Homeland Security said that it's not a priority to deport Dreamers, they will all get fired from their jobs.

00:20:42.000 So people are saying, you know, oh, well, DACA recipients, well, the courts have decided they're going to protect them, and oh, well, ICE is not going to start deporting them immediately, or at least it won't be a priority for them.

00:20:56.000 All the businesses that currently employ DACA recipients will have to fire all of them on March 5th, and that'll be catastrophic for the Democrats.

00:21:05.000 Think of how that will affect their ability to make a deal.

00:21:09.000 If it comes around in six weeks, and, you know, look, Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer, they sat down at the same table, they've decided on a long term spending bill.

00:21:19.000 We're going to end the sequester, we're going to fund the military, fund.

00:21:22.000 Domestic stuff.

00:21:22.000 There's a lot of Obamacare stuff that's being funded in this, I guess, as a compromise.

00:21:27.000 Well, what happens in late March when we're ready to vote on that and all of the DACA recipients, the Latino caucus, the Hispanics, the far left, is saying, Democrats, where are you?

00:21:38.000 Where are you on DACA?

00:21:40.000 We have 690,000 now unemployed DACA recipients, people who have been fired from their jobs and now they have no hope of getting hired and now they're subject to deportation.

00:21:52.000 What's going on?

00:21:52.000 Aren't you going to help these people?

00:21:54.000 Aren't you going to lobby for their legal protections? 1.00

00:21:56.000 And then the Democrats are in deep, deep shit. 1.00

00:22:01.000 Pardon my French. 0.99

00:22:02.000 But late March, here is what will have happened.

00:22:05.000 They'll have shut down the government in January.

00:22:07.000 They barely avert another government shutdown this week.

00:22:10.000 They get their extension until late March.

00:22:13.000 We're ready to make a deal.

00:22:14.000 They paid all this lip service to a genuinely bipartisan long term spending deal.

00:22:19.000 We're going to make it happen.

00:22:20.000 We're going to do the job.

00:22:21.000 We're going to close the deal.

00:22:23.000 And then.

00:22:24.000 You get the far left, and this is what I talked about last week.

00:22:27.000 You get these two poles of gravity tugging at them, where the pragmatist in them will say, pass the damn spending bill, get it through, salvage something from this terrible optics nightmare so that we can salvage something for the midterms.

00:22:42.000 And then you'll have the far left base, the Hispanic caucus, all these radicals saying, no, you need to demand DACA.

00:22:49.000 You need to demand DACA legal protections.

00:22:52.000 And what will have to happen?

00:22:54.000 They will have to come to the table, and with no other options, they will have to give the wall.

00:23:00.000 They will have to give chain migration. 0.76

00:23:02.000 They will have to give the diversity visa lottery program.

00:23:05.000 That's the final deal that Trump gave them.

00:23:07.000 That's the final deal.

00:23:09.000 That's what he talked about a couple of weeks ago.

00:23:11.000 He talked about it at the State of the Union.

00:23:12.000 He reiterated it the other day.

00:23:15.000 And that'll be the final deal.

00:23:17.000 I believe it's in some form that the Democrats may be forced into because, you know, there won't be a DACA fix in time by March 5th.

00:23:25.000 There's no immigration proposal right now on the floor, or that's being written, or that's being worked on, that will be agreed upon anytime soon.

00:23:35.000 And you'll see that once those legal protections expire, because it's not looking like anything will pass between now and March 5th, once those legal protections expire, all the major corporations have to fire their DACA recipients.

00:23:46.000 These people will be without a job.

00:23:48.000 It'll be a major PR disaster, a major crisis of confidence in the Democratic Party.

00:23:53.000 It will rip them in half when it comes time to pass a long term budget in late March.

00:23:59.000 And conveniently, this will be right around the time that the midterms officially begin.

00:24:04.000 Primaries will officially begin in March and they'll extend until late summer, and then you'll have the midterms.

00:24:11.000 And you look at the numbers for the midterms, I don't care what numbers you're looking at, the Democrats are being absolutely slaughtered.

00:24:18.000 They're being butchered, and it's barely even begun.

00:24:22.000 None of the generals have even begun for the midterms.

00:24:24.000 The primaries haven't even started, and they are getting axed.

00:24:28.000 Whereas their general ballot polling numbers in December had them up 15 points, 15 point differential.

00:24:36.000 In favor of Democrats in December, as recently as December, now you have them at two, a two point advantage.

00:24:44.000 And you look at Trump's approval rating after State of the Union, it's up to 49.

00:24:48.000 And if you look at RCP, if you look at Real Clear Politics, their simulator for the 2018 election, if you plug in a 45% approval rating, Donald Trump is expected to win on average.

00:25:01.000 This is like the most middle of the road prediction, and 97% of simulations, he's expected to win 56 seats.

00:25:07.000 That's with a 45% approval rating.

00:25:09.000 He's at 49.

00:25:11.000 This is before the tax cuts go into place.

00:25:14.000 This is before the economic boom that we see happen after this.

00:25:18.000 This is before everybody sees consistently that they're taking home more money.

00:25:22.000 This is before people get their bonuses and their expenses are cut and on and on and on.

00:25:28.000 Looking very good.

00:25:29.000 It is looking very rosy, very optimistic, very white pilling for this administration.

00:25:35.000 And then, of course, while this is happening in the thick of these negotiations, which are killing the Democrats, In the thick of the optics nightmare that this is, then of course you have what's happening with the text messages and with the memo, where the same effective messaging against Hillary Clinton that the Democrats are corrupt, that they're out of touch, that they hate white America, you see the same stuff rearing its ugly head again with this FISA stuff.

00:26:02.000 So we really could not be positioning ourselves in a better way for 2018.

00:26:06.000 And what comes after 2018?

00:26:10.000 If we get a substantial majority in the Senate, if we retain our majority in the House, Folks, the sky is the limit.

00:26:18.000 The sky is the limit.

00:26:19.000 NAFTA, trade, more broadly, trade in general, any kind of economics, if we're talking about education, if we're talking about immigration, think about if we come back in November with a 60 seat majority.

00:26:34.000 We don't need the Democrats on immigration.

00:26:37.000 We don't need to give anything on DACA.

00:26:39.000 We don't need to give anything on anything.

00:26:41.000 The only people we would have to worry about is, I guess, bringing around the John McCain's and the Jeff Flakes, which Jeff Flake won't be around.

00:26:50.000 But, you know, those types of GOP establishment candidates or congressmen or senators.

00:26:56.000 And I don't think those will be very difficult to wrangle if we can get the rest.

00:27:00.000 So the sky is really the limit here.

00:27:02.000 It's looking very optimistic.

00:27:03.000 Of course, that's no excuse to become complacent, but I think people should generally be white pilled here.

00:27:10.000 And that's enough on the Congress.

00:27:12.000 We'll see how that develops over the course of the week.

00:27:14.000 We'll see if that works out, see how the spending bill goes.

00:27:17.000 But we have here our new earpiece.

00:27:21.000 And we'll see if it works.

00:27:23.000 Here it is, right here.

00:27:24.000 I tested it a little bit before the show.

00:27:26.000 It's a lot sexier.

00:27:27.000 You know, we used to do, just last night we were doing this, you know, I don't even know what you would call this, like a fighter pilot, right?

00:27:35.000 Or a gamer, because it is Turtle Beach.

00:27:37.000 I guess we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves there.

00:27:39.000 But we did this, you know, these cans, these cans the size of my head.

00:27:44.000 Now we got this sexy little piece, like a sexy businessman, 2005 businessman.

00:27:50.000 Like, oh, ha ha, hello.

00:27:52.000 You know, how are the stocks doing?

00:27:54.000 How are the blue chips doing today?

00:27:56.000 But we'll see.

00:27:57.000 Let me try and apply it here.

00:27:58.000 I was having a lot of trouble with the ear clip.

00:28:00.000 I might have to forego it.

00:28:02.000 Let me whip this up here.

00:28:04.000 I think it's still on.

00:28:08.000 Okay, and we have this ready here, so we're ready to call our guy, Ricky Vaughn.

00:28:13.000 What the what?

00:28:14.000 You know, I'm just going to take off the ear clip because this is goofy, this little guy.

00:28:21.000 I got these weird.

00:28:23.000 There we go.

00:28:24.000 Okay.

00:28:26.000 So, okay, let me just.

00:28:29.000 If it's not technical, it's something like logistical, right?

00:28:33.000 Let's just hope this stays in place.

00:28:35.000 What the what is going on here?

00:28:38.000 All right, is that good?

00:28:39.000 Okay, I think it works.

00:28:40.000 I think it looks cool enough.

00:28:41.000 Okay, so let's pull it up here.

00:28:43.000 Let's get our guy Ricky Vaughn on the phone.

00:28:46.000 We'll see if we are in business here on the Discord.

00:28:52.000 Let's give him a ring here.

00:28:55.000 Let me post him up here and I'll plug that up.

00:28:59.000 Bing bing bong. 0.84

00:29:00.000 Hello, hello.

00:29:04.000 Can you hear me?

00:29:05.000 I am doing well.

00:29:07.000 Yes, just give me one sec.

00:29:09.000 You are not coming through on the OBS.

00:29:15.000 So, can you give me another test sound there?

00:29:21.000 Oh, now I can't hear you.

00:29:21.000 Hello?

00:29:24.000 Give me a hot sec here.

00:29:29.000 What is going on?

00:29:30.000 And it's always something, right?

00:29:32.000 If not, I'll just have to revert back to the Turtle Beach.

00:29:35.000 Let me try this right quick, if I can.

00:29:35.000 Let me try this.

00:29:40.000 Let's go and see.

00:29:42.000 We had it working yesterday.

00:29:45.000 Oh, here we go.

00:29:45.000 Here we go.

00:29:47.000 Okay, okay.

00:29:47.000 Say something real quick.

00:29:49.000 All right.

00:29:50.000 There he is.

00:29:50.000 How are you doing?

00:29:51.000 There he is.

00:29:51.000 Okay.

00:29:52.000 We got him and we got him.

00:29:54.000 Okay, Ricky Vaughn.

00:29:55.000 So great to have you on the show finally.

00:29:58.000 Obviously, I'm a big fan of yours.

00:30:00.000 And I think you're a brave guy because you go out there and you critique the alt right in many of the ways that I do.

00:30:00.000 Big fan.

00:30:06.000 And you really go hard against them.

00:30:08.000 And of course, I appreciate that because I've done a lot of the same.

00:30:10.000 But.

00:30:11.000 Give us a brief introduction for the America First audience.

00:30:14.000 Tell them who you are, what you're about, the role you played in the 2016 election, and just tell us what your deal is here.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, it sounds good.

00:30:22.000 All right, great.

00:30:23.000 Yeah, so I'm just a guy who sort of started shitposting in 2014 and sort of came up on Twitter.

00:30:33.000 And we were pretty instrumental in sort of marshaling support for Trump and also sort of undermining the other candidates and also just trolling liberals and journalists, anyone and everyone.

00:30:46.000 And so, yeah, just myself and probably 30 other people in a Twitter group going back, and was able to have some success that I never would have imagined in terms of followers and sort of having media people interview me, et cetera, et cetera.

00:31:04.000 But I was sort of banned in 2016, and I've sort of been biding my time on Gab and sort of hanging out with some of the people in the alt right.

00:31:14.000 So that's sort of my background.

00:31:17.000 Sure, sure.

00:31:17.000 Well, thank you for the background.

00:31:19.000 I only asked because, I mean, you were one of the major influencers, if I recall, during the election.

00:31:24.000 You had something like 65,000 followers, I'm sure millions of impressions.

00:31:29.000 And just to establish your credibility, because I think we see that the shitposting was among the most important things during the election.

00:31:38.000 I mean, this was one of the most influential things during the election that I think really changed the game.

00:31:43.000 This is where the alt right originated in many respects.

00:31:46.000 And you were, I mean, you were on the top.

00:31:48.000 I mean, you were one of the big guys that were doing that, one of the pioneers.

00:31:51.000 But I want to have you on the show to ask you, because obviously we've seen.

00:31:55.000 With that New York Times documentary this week, with the Spencer episode last week or a couple of weeks ago, and just generally the direction of the alt right, I wanted to pick your brain.

00:32:06.000 What do you think of the direction of this dissident right movement?

00:32:09.000 What do you think of the alt right brand more generally?

00:32:13.000 Do you think we are in the right place now?

00:32:15.000 Do you think that we have lost or gained momentum since the election?

00:32:19.000 What do you see as the future?

00:32:21.000 And these are a lot of broad and general questions, but I'm just trying to gauge what is your general take on where we're at here on the dissident right?

00:32:29.000 A year after the Trump inauguration?

00:32:32.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:32:34.000 That's a great question.

00:32:35.000 It's a sort of a hot topic right now, a lot of controversy.

00:32:39.000 You know, to start off, I just want to go through, you know, and make a few things clear.

00:32:44.000 Like, you know, there are some good things going on on the alt right.

00:32:48.000 Like, we have people who are getting serious about physical fitness, trying to get together with their friends and build some camaraderie, build some mutual support networks.

00:32:58.000 They're doing charity.

00:33:00.000 They're criticizing and deconstructing the opposition, and they're making memes.

00:33:05.000 So, guys, if you're doing these things, listen, I'm not out here, you know, trying to undercut you.

00:33:12.000 Like some guys are saying, well, Ricky, we're just out here doing charity and helping each other's families.

00:33:18.000 That's not what I'm criticizing.

00:33:19.000 Like, we have a lot of problems with the brand right now that I think are totally unrelated to all the things, the positive things I just mentioned.

00:33:28.000 So, people, don't take this criticism personally.

00:33:32.000 Don't take the jokes or banter personally, but we do have a lot of problems.

00:33:38.000 And, you know, we can go through them, Nick.

00:33:40.000 I've sort of been trying to figure out what are the ideological problems here?

00:33:46.000 What are the aesthetic problems?

00:33:48.000 And then the sort of strategic and branding problems.

00:33:51.000 So, where would you like to start?

00:33:53.000 Well, how about we start with the branding?

00:33:53.000 Sure.

00:33:56.000 Because I think that's one of the more important things.

00:33:58.000 What do you think about the branding?

00:33:59.000 What are the issues there?

00:34:01.000 Well, people use the term optics.

00:34:05.000 And, you know, it's sort of like some people use it to sort of mock the whole idea of looking good and sort of having a positive appearance that we can all be proud of.

00:34:17.000 But there's a better word for this, and it's called aesthetics.

00:34:21.000 And, you know, I see a lot of problems with the brand right now.

00:34:25.000 And sort of, we see people going into the street marching under the banner of alt right.

00:34:31.000 They're sort of lacking fitness, and they're sort of waving around alien symbols and appearance and sort of.

00:34:38.000 And they got haircuts that are sort of outside of the mainstream, alienating other people.

00:34:43.000 Now, a lot of people will say, well, we haven't really done that since Charlottesville.

00:34:46.000 So I say, fair point, but this is just what you see when people look in the media.

00:34:52.000 This is what they see when they turn on the New York Times.

00:34:54.000 And this does have an impact on other people.

00:34:57.000 If people are saying, I'm in a nod and I'm really fit and stuff, that's great, but that's not the people we're seeing out on the media.

00:35:04.000 Right.

00:35:04.000 Well, that's a great point.

00:35:05.000 I think you make a really good point about alien symbols.

00:35:09.000 And generally, an alien appearance.

00:35:11.000 Because you imagine that if our ideology is nationalism, is patriotism, love for our home, love for our people, and people are marching out there as representatives of this oikophilia of love for our home, and they're carrying banners with symbols, with colors, with ideas, names that nobody in our country recognizes, that nobody in our country can relate to, that resonates with anybody.

00:35:37.000 You know, the Identity Europa flag, the symbol. 0.79

00:35:40.000 What is it like this teal?

00:35:43.000 Pyramid on a white flag, and we're supposed to be the nationalists.

00:35:46.000 We're supposed to be love for our homeland, and it's identity Europa.

00:35:50.000 I don't identify with Europa.

00:35:52.000 My father doesn't identify with Europa.

00:35:54.000 My neighbors don't. 1.00

00:35:56.000 I think that's a really strong point.

00:35:59.000 I think a lot of people like Andrew Anglin, Weave, myself, have been advocates of the American aesthetic, the patriotic aesthetic, waving the flag, bringing back that good American stuff.

00:36:12.000 What is your take on that?

00:36:13.000 Do you think that's the substitute, or is it something else?

00:36:16.000 Yeah, I do think that's a substitute.

00:36:18.000 And I also want to say we also have this problem of if you go back to sort of when this alt right became popular in 2015, you had this broad spectrum of people, and you even had some people who were like classical liberals or blue collar workers, ex democrats, all the way over to neo nazis.

00:36:41.000 You had that entire spectrum, and people were saying this sort of neoliberalism, neoconservatism, It isn't working, and these people are, you know, the neocons are terrible.

00:36:53.000 The sort of neoliberals, Hillary Clinton types are awful.

00:36:57.000 We don't like this.

00:36:58.000 And the question then is okay, so you've picked apart the other team and beaten them in an election.

00:37:04.000 What are we going to do now?

00:37:06.000 And there was this sort of rush to say, oh, well, the alt right represents some sort of positive, you know, response to this.

00:37:14.000 And I think that the problem is you've got too many voices competing to be that positive movement.

00:37:20.000 And actually, we've brought this up and said, you know, it should have been everyone should have just stayed in their lane.

00:37:27.000 Like, if you're an identitarian, go for that movement.

00:37:29.000 If you are a neo Nazi, then stay over and try to build your whatever movement, neo Nazi movement.

00:37:36.000 If you are an America First or a Trump supporter and you want to be in the Trump movement, the America First movement, these are different solutions. 0.61

00:37:44.000 And then you have some sort of competition.

00:37:47.000 But instead, what happened was we mishmashed everything into one thing and said, this is all right.

00:37:51.000 So, for me, I think we have to go.

00:37:55.000 For me, I think the only way forward, and people, is to go find their movement that they should belong to.

00:37:59.000 And what should that movement be in my mind?

00:38:02.000 It should be nationalism, patriotism.

00:38:07.000 We don't think that our history is perfect or our founding fathers are perfect, but we have a deep respect for and a loyalty to this country, the people in this country who are related to us.

00:38:19.000 They're our families, they're our neighbors, our communities.

00:38:22.000 That is the path forward in my mind.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, no, I think that's a great point.

00:38:25.000 I think that's a great point, especially about how the alt right was seen as the positive, as the alternative, because the 2016 election was about a rejection.

00:38:36.000 The 2016 was about, you know, more than a new, and it was Make America Great again.

00:38:40.000 It was kind of this restoration, but it was also a rejection of both Republican and Democrat, neoliberal and neoconservative.

00:38:48.000 And I think you're right.

00:38:49.000 The alt right was kind of this false substitute where it said, You know, here is this package, but it really was this amalgamation, this kind of like sick Frankenstein of so many different things.

00:39:00.000 That's actually, I never thought of it that way that people really should just kind of stick to their own thing.

00:39:05.000 And, you know, on the American nationalism, I think people give it a bad rap. 0.99

00:39:10.000 And this really makes me cringe these days when people shit on the Constitution or they shit on civic nationalism. 0.98

00:39:18.000 In large measure, America's identity is a civic identity. 0.99

00:39:22.000 The Constitution is as important to Americans as the crown is to the British, as the Tsar and, you know, St. Basil's Cathedral is to the Russians or the monarchy was to the French or so on.

00:39:34.000 And so when I see.

00:39:36.000 Alt right type people act like they're so above.

00:39:38.000 That's our heritage.

00:39:39.000 That's our history.

00:39:40.000 So I think you're definitely right.

00:39:42.000 It does lie in that nationalism, that patriotism.

00:39:45.000 That's probably the most resonant thing.

00:39:47.000 So then.

00:39:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:49.000 And do you have anything else on optics before we get over to ideology?

00:39:49.000 Yeah.

00:39:55.000 Well, I was just going to say, I think that the alt right was sort of.

00:39:58.000 We had these sort of people that were a mixture of national socialists, whether they're neo Nazis, white nationalists, and identitarians come in and sort of elbow everyone out of the way and say, we're going to do this.

00:40:11.000 And that was sort of when you start having these alien sort of rhetoric and images and, you know, fitness, sorry, symbols come in.

00:40:22.000 So, yeah, go ahead.

00:40:23.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:40:25.000 And then, so the next part, obviously, if we take care of the marketing, if we take care of the branding, of course, that's a big part of it.

00:40:32.000 In my estimation, if you're talking about a new convert, the branding is 90%.

00:40:37.000 But once you're in there, once you have your movement, then, of course, The ideology becomes the other half.

00:40:42.000 The ideology becomes a lot more important.

00:40:45.000 And what actually are the beliefs beyond the rhetoric, beyond the message?

00:40:48.000 And then we get into things like economics and policy and these broader things, even philosophical things, even political theory.

00:40:56.000 And so, what do you think if your vision of the alt right was this amalgamation of NRX and identitarian and neo Nazi national socialist, what would be probably the most fortuitous?

00:41:10.000 What would be the best path forward in terms of our ideology?

00:41:13.000 What would be the unifying?

00:41:15.000 What would be the most effective ideology that we could adopt moving forward?

00:41:21.000 Well, you know, I'm a big proponent of America First, a muscular nationalism that is focused on really, you know, the well being of the people of the country and placing that above sort of all these bugaboos that people are concerned about, whether you're a liberal and you want to make everything equal and egalitarian, or you're a conservative and you have these, you know, weird ideas about.

00:41:50.000 You know, my principles, you know, well, if we just let in the whole world as long as we can convert them to my principles, then, you know, all these bugaboos.

00:41:58.000 And the dedication to open borders and free trade at the expense of the well being, the welfare of the people of the country.

00:42:07.000 So it's a muscular nationalism, you know, and it's not strictly race based, although we do recognize that there's a certain type of people in this country already and the people that built the country.

00:42:18.000 And also, you know, we did have some immigration here and there.

00:42:21.000 We had a lot of immigration. 0.99

00:42:23.000 Let's not be.

00:42:24.000 I mean, not mince words.

00:42:25.000 We had a lot of immigration of people who were not Anglo Germanic.

00:42:29.000 So it's like, but it sort of is we have to respect the people who are already in the country and not just flood them with outsiders who are going to dilute that and also actively oppose the values of the founding stock and some of the immigrants in the country. 0.64

00:42:47.000 Right.

00:42:48.000 Yeah, no, I think that's probably the message and the ideology with the most mass appeal.

00:42:54.000 The America First type stuff, and that's. 0.81

00:42:56.000 You know, that was why I rallied behind it because I think it's the most reasonable thing that everybody can get behind that the American citizens should come before non citizens and the American people should come before anybody else when the government makes decisions. 0.81

00:43:09.000 So I think that's probably the best path forward. 0.93

00:43:12.000 That'll be the way to get the most people in.

00:43:14.000 And I think if you're trying to pull from the right and from the left, that's the most attractive thing.

00:43:19.000 And then on the subject of demographics, that's probably the trickiest part how do we define the nationalism?

00:43:26.000 A lot of the more extreme people say, If it's not ethnic based or if it's not race based, it's not good enough.

00:43:31.000 But there has to be this recognition that the presence of minorities in the country is a reality.

00:43:39.000 It is a fact that we have to deal with. 1.00

00:43:41.000 We might not like it.

00:43:43.000 We might not believe that that is pure or that is totally fair or totally our decision. 0.86

00:43:51.000 And certainly, I think if we could turn back time to 1960, we would have never passed the 1965 Immigration Act and we would have prevented it. 0.69

00:43:58.000 But there simply is no going back. 0.65

00:44:00.000 And so to recognize that. 1.00

00:44:02.000 There have been minorities.

00:44:04.000 You go back to people that built the railroads and people that came over here.

00:44:08.000 I think the way forward is to recognize that it may be normative.

00:44:13.000 It's probably normative to have this vision of the American as a white, Anglo Saxon, Protestant, Christian, traditional kind of a guy, but then you could also have other people in the country.

00:44:26.000 And I think moving more towards a white majority or white supermajority, rebuilding that kind of normative. 0.82

00:44:33.000 Racial and ethnic identity, I think that is probably the most congenial way to move towards it. 0.55

00:44:38.000 Because what I see is happening is either you don't advocate for any of that and you lose our majority, or you push way too hard for the racialist stuff and you lose anyway.

00:44:48.000 I think the middle path is to achieve the ends of racialism, but adopting kind of the messaging and the rhetoric of something that's a little bit more moderate.

00:44:57.000 What would you think about that? 0.89

00:44:59.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:45:00.000 But I also think, you know, I also think that sort of the America First path is also. 0.97

00:45:06.000 You know, the one that projects the most strength because, you know, we shouldn't just be a movement that sits back and says, well, you know, these minorities are bullying me. 0.98

00:45:16.000 I can't, you know, get it. 0.99

00:45:18.000 My life sucks. 0.85

00:45:19.000 I can't get anything done. 0.97

00:45:21.000 And, oh, the demographics are, we're going to lose elections in the future.

00:45:24.000 Like, first of all, you know, we are very competitive in elections right now.

00:45:30.000 And we're not going to go anywhere.

00:45:33.000 Like, we should be a nationalist movement that uses democratic means.

00:45:37.000 But if we can elevate the idea of America First in terms of the welfare of the people, the well being of the people being the highest priority, then in the future you can adjust.

00:45:51.000 Let's say it becomes impossible to win an election.

00:45:54.000 You can adjust your national election.

00:45:57.000 You can totally adjust your strategy.

00:45:58.000 You can say, we're going to take over these states and whatever we're going to do.

00:46:03.000 But one of the problems with the ethno nationalists right now is.

00:46:09.000 And this comes from a great, you know, these ideas are coming from a great podcast actually on TRS called, you know, I forget what it's called.

00:46:19.000 It's called like, you know, South of the Wall or something.

00:46:21.000 And there's these Latin Americans who are making this podcast.

00:46:27.000 It's called La Derecha Alternativa.

00:46:30.000 And what they say is that one of the problems with ethnonationals right now is that there's sort of this libertarian problem where you have a lot of people who they used to say, oh, well, don't tread on me, you know, my non aggression principle.

00:46:43.000 Is the most important thing, you know, leave me alone.

00:46:47.000 And then now, instead of saying that about the individual, they're saying that about sort of the ethnicity. 0.97

00:46:53.000 And the problem with that is it sort of ignores this sort of human nature, which is to expand, to conquer, to, if you're Muslim, declare jihad. 0.59

00:47:05.000 If you're Christian, declare a crusade. 0.60

00:47:07.000 So it's like, you know, with the NAP, like if you're just so weak that someone can just come in and take all your stuff, it's not going to work.

00:47:16.000 Same thing with ethno nationalism, in the sense that it's sort of leave me alone.

00:47:23.000 It sort of contradicts human nature. 0.87

00:47:25.000 Not only that, it's sort of.

00:47:27.000 And a mission of weakness because a lot of people in the alt right want to say, this is so unjust.

00:47:33.000 We're being invaded.

00:47:34.000 Our sovereignty is being violated.

00:47:36.000 This is not fair.

00:47:37.000 Okay.

00:47:38.000 But, and then they also want to say, oh, but it was so great when Europeans came and took over the country from Indians, or it was so great when we conquered the world as colonialists.

00:47:48.000 You can't really have it both ways.

00:47:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:51.000 Yeah.

00:47:52.000 No, I know exactly what you mean.

00:47:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:55.000 So it's an emission of weakness, and there's a contradiction, right, between our past history of imperialism. 0.93

00:48:00.000 And complaining about, oh, the Muslims are invading us, the Mexicans are invading us. 0.78

00:48:05.000 Well, it's like, you know, deal with the problem and don't just say, well, we're going to sort of retreat into some sort of balkanized ethnostate or something. 0.99

00:48:16.000 It's just, it's completely ridiculous. 0.89

00:48:18.000 And this is where I think the rhetorical weakness comes in from people who are so hung up on, you know, oh, I'm being bullied, the white race is being bullied, they're breeding us out of existence, they're flooding us in our own countries. 0.98

00:48:32.000 And it just goes on and on.

00:48:34.000 And the same tired, stale, weak talking points.

00:48:38.000 It's not fair. 1.00

00:48:40.000 You know, oh, they're hypocrites. 1.00

00:48:42.000 Jews are hypocrites. 1.00

00:48:43.000 They're the real bigots. 1.00

00:48:45.000 It just goes on and on with this sort of weakness, and it just gets stale and tired.

00:48:49.000 And you attract sort of people into your movement who are not self actualizing people.

00:48:55.000 There are a lot of people who they just want to get together and feel like they're accepted because maybe they, I don't know, maybe they were bullied in the past or whatever, but they're just looking for.

00:49:06.000 Somewhere rather than fix themselves, they're looking for a movement that comes in and can sort of attend to all their grievances.

00:49:14.000 Yeah, no, that's a good point on the kind of people that the messaging attracts.

00:49:18.000 You know, if the messaging is you are a victim and the world is out to get you, and you're a victim of the world, the world order is why you're not a winner.

00:49:29.000 I mean, you think about a rally like Charlottesville, and you think of like who comes out to that kind of a thing, who comes out to a Charlottesville rally, and not to pick on or criticize people.

00:49:39.000 Who have been affected by this, but it does breed kind of this whiny, like crybaby mentality where, you know, where are the lawyers?

00:49:46.000 Where are the business people?

00:49:48.000 You believe in our race, you believe in our people, you believe in our country.

00:49:52.000 And we have this movement of people, like you said, with the same tired, whiny talking points.

00:49:56.000 It's not fair. 0.92

00:49:58.000 You know, they're the real racists.

00:49:58.000 They're being mean.

00:50:00.000 And we have, and, you know, maybe that wouldn't be a problem in and of itself, but then it's paradoxical where at the same time we're trying to say, become who you are, remember your ancestors.

00:50:10.000 And at the same time, it's the whining, the crying.

00:50:13.000 So, yeah, no, I think that's definitely right.

00:50:16.000 We have to create a message that's a little bit more proactive, an idea that's a little bit more forward thinking as opposed to kind of this reactive crisis, like whiny baby mindset.

00:50:26.000 But it looks like we're running out of time here.

00:50:29.000 We only got a couple more minutes for me to take Super Chats.

00:50:31.000 You got any closing thoughts?

00:50:33.000 I know that was kind of brief, but you got any closing thoughts on maybe a call to action, something a little bit more white pilling?

00:50:40.000 And where can we find you for your content and things?

00:50:44.000 Yeah, just find me on Gab.

00:50:47.000 You can find me on Gab.

00:50:48.000 Just search for me on GAD.

00:50:50.000 But I will be launching a website.

00:50:51.000 So I guess it's kind of a white pill.

00:50:54.000 The designers are designing it as we speak.

00:50:57.000 So that'll be out, I want to say, three to five weeks.

00:50:59.000 Hopefully they get it back to me in three weeks.

00:51:02.000 So that's sort of exciting.

00:51:04.000 And I would say, guys, let's all lighten up.

00:51:07.000 Let's sort of, you know, really think about do we want to be sort of this cult that is totally unable to accept any criticism?

00:51:20.000 Just repeats mantras in order to quell any dissent or doubt.

00:51:23.000 Like in 1984, they had a word called Crime Stop.

00:51:27.000 And all the good, loyal party members, they had no sort of private emotions.

00:51:32.000 They were in a state of constant enthusiasm about the communist state.

00:51:36.000 Let's not be like that.

00:51:37.000 Let's start saying, and I'm not saying like people need to jump out there and be a leader, but let's start saying, asking our leaders to have some standards, enforce those standards strongly.

00:51:49.000 And let's not, let's.

00:51:52.000 Remember that the people in this movement that came up to the top, that sort of rose the cream of the top, the cream of the crop, they were not necessarily the most pure ideological people.

00:52:03.000 And there was a lot of disagreement. 0.57

00:52:04.000 Let's focus on what's effective, who's being effective, not who can go on Twitter and promote the most pure ethnostate possible.

00:52:15.000 Yep. 0.96

00:52:16.000 Big agree.

00:52:16.000 Big agree on all of that.

00:52:18.000 Wise words from Ricky Vaughn.

00:52:20.000 You got to listen.

00:52:21.000 You got to listen if you want to move forward.

00:52:23.000 Thanks so much for coming on.

00:52:24.000 We appreciate having you, and we'll have to get you on again sometime, all right?

00:52:29.000 Appreciate it.

00:52:29.000 Thanks a lot.

00:52:30.000 Take it easy.

00:52:30.000 All right.

00:52:31.000 Bye bye.

00:52:32.000 Take care.

00:52:33.000 And that was the Ricky Vaughn.

00:52:33.000 All right.

00:52:35.000 You know, look, not everybody's going to like it.

00:52:37.000 Not everybody's going to be wild about that kind of a message, but it's the truth.

00:52:42.000 It is the truth that people need to hear the whiny baby stuff, this purity spiral continuously all the way down into the most radical and crazy stuff.

00:52:55.000 We have to resist that.

00:52:56.000 We have to get back in the game.

00:52:57.000 And we say that not, of course, because of our principles or because of maybe what we believe, but because of what is necessary, what needs to happen.

00:53:06.000 You know, there's this theory of politics where people believe that, you know, if we're 100% right, if we're 100% honest, if we're 100%, you know, truthful and everything, well, we're going to win because of our pure hearts, because of our pure spirits, and it's not going to happen.

00:53:23.000 We have to think tactically, we have to think strategically.

00:53:26.000 And sometimes that means that we have to moderate.

00:53:29.000 Sometimes that means that we have to change our tone, change our messaging.

00:53:32.000 And that doesn't mean we change who we are.

00:53:35.000 Doesn't mean we change who we are.

00:53:36.000 Doesn't mean we unsee the things that we've seen.

00:53:39.000 Doesn't mean we stop believing in the things that we believe in.

00:53:42.000 But it means that we stop self indulging for the sake of growing the movement, for the sake of advancing our cause.

00:53:50.000 You know, if we look at the dissident elements in our country that have been successful over the past 100 years, if we look at the subversive elements in our country in the past 100 years, They didn't show up.

00:54:03.000 They didn't wash up on our shores from Russia and from Poland and New York City, waving banners of infiltration, waving banners of communism, waving banners of Marxism, waving banners of anarchism and degeneracy.

00:54:16.000 They didn't pull up in the 1920s and the 30s and 40s and 50s, waving these banners saying, We are going to change you.

00:54:23.000 We are going to change you from within. 0.84

00:54:25.000 We are going to make your daughters sons and make your sons daughters and make your parents homosexuals and turn the television into a propaganda machine. 1.00

00:54:35.000 Pitch your people against each other and put them to war for us in the Middle East. 0.98

00:54:39.000 They didn't come waving those banners, shouting those messages.

00:54:42.000 No, they came here and they started out slow.

00:54:44.000 What did they say?

00:54:46.000 What did they say?

00:54:47.000 They said, we just want to be left in peace.

00:54:49.000 We just want to be left in peace.

00:54:51.000 Everybody can agree with that.

00:54:52.000 Just don't hurt us.

00:54:53.000 Please, just don't hurt us.

00:54:54.000 We just want a homeland.

00:54:56.000 And with the blacks, please, just give us equal rights.

00:54:59.000 That's all we're asking for.

00:55:01.000 And then it snowballs, and then it grows and grows and grows.

00:55:04.000 And suddenly, Black Panther's got 100% approval rating, and we've been at war 15 times in that region, and on and on and on.

00:55:10.000 And there's the banks and the media and so on.

00:55:13.000 And we have to adopt a similarly pragmatic mindset.

00:55:18.000 And it's just that simple.

00:55:19.000 And if you're not on board with that, we don't need you. 1.00

00:55:21.000 If you can't wrap your head around that, if you can't wrap your small brain lit, pea sized brain around that, if you're so committed to the revolution, then get the fuck out. 1.00

00:55:30.000 We don't need you. 1.00

00:55:30.000 We will be strategic. 1.00

00:55:32.000 We will be pragmatic by ourselves, and we will succeed in our goals.

00:55:36.000 But thank you to Ricky Vaughn for coming on.

00:55:39.000 He's a solid guy.

00:55:39.000 Big thanks to him.

00:55:40.000 I've been a big fan of his for a while.

00:55:42.000 You know, that kind of truth comes at a cost.

00:55:44.000 It's not the most popular thing to say, but we have to be courageous and say it anyway.

00:55:48.000 But We'll take a look at our super chats and then we're going to hop on to the Andy Worski stream.

00:55:54.000 We're going to hop on to the Worski stream and we're going to bust up this fella Halsey who's been stalking me on Twitter, this weird boomer old man, this goofball, and we're going to really give him the business.

00:56:06.000 So pop on over to Worski in two minutes, but I'll take these super chats real quickly.

00:56:11.000 We only have three.

00:56:12.000 Pretty rough stuff. 0.73

00:56:13.000 Dominic Liberator says, not man bidge, person bidge.

00:56:18.000 It's more inclusive.

00:56:19.000 That's a very funny joke, of course, a reference to.

00:56:22.000 Justin Trudeau saying people kind.

00:56:25.000 Very goofy stuff.

00:56:26.000 Matt Williams, Nick, I will always support you.

00:56:29.000 Thank you, my guy.

00:56:30.000 Much appreciated.

00:56:31.000 You always have the best takes and predictions.

00:56:33.000 I appreciate that.

00:56:35.000 It's true.

00:56:37.000 Think of it, it's true.

00:56:38.000 But I appreciate it.

00:56:39.000 Appreciate the support.

00:56:40.000 Couldn't do without you, folks. 1.00

00:56:42.000 Marcus Antonius, Nick, time to go BTFO, this Halsey English faggot. 1.00

00:56:47.000 Well, you can go check me out. 1.00

00:56:49.000 I'll be on there right as soon as the stream ends, right as I click off of our outro music.

00:56:53.000 But.

00:56:54.000 That's been America First, a divisive episode.

00:56:57.000 A divisive episode going to make a lot of people upset on our side and on the other side.

00:57:02.000 That's how it has to be.

00:57:03.000 We have to punch.

00:57:05.000 Perpetual warfare is the name of the game for this Nacho Libre over here.

00:57:10.000 Mucha Lucha on the show, right?

00:57:12.000 But that's going to do it for us here tonight.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - February 07, 2018

Optics And Aesthetics Feat. Ricky Vaughn | America First Ep. 103

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