PATRIOTS UNDER ATTACK: OATH CUCK Stewart Rhodes Gets 20 YEARS IN PRISON | America First Ep. 1167PATRIOTS UNDER ATTACK: OATH CUCK Stewart Rhodes Gets 20 YEARS IN PRISON | America First Ep. 1167
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00:01:39.000Our featured story tonight is about Stuart Rhodes, the Oathkeeper Leader, who today was sentenced to 18 years in prison for his role on January 6th.
00:01:56.000This is the most severe sentence that has been handed out by the Department of Justice since the January 6th investigation began over two years ago.
00:02:11.000And at first I thought it was a little extreme because that's a long time.
00:02:18.000But then I read the criminal complaint against him and I read the news
00:02:23.000And I'm not gonna say like he deserves it or anything, but I am gonna say it was really stupid what he was doing.
00:02:31.000Because everybody knows my story, or if you've been watching my show for the last couple years, maybe you're familiar with my experience at the Capitol.
00:02:44.000Me, I went there for the Trump rally at the White House on the morning of the 6th,
00:03:14.000They had stockpiled guns in hotel rooms leading up to January 6th.
00:03:21.000And they were wearing armor, and they were coordinating with walkie-talkies, and there were Oath Keepers that breached the building.
00:03:30.000And they're on a walkie-talkie apparently with Stuart Rhodes, who is off-site in DC.
00:03:36.000Which, I didn't know about any of that until Stuart Rhodes was arrested about a year ago.
00:03:43.000Stuart Rhodes was arrested and charged a year after the fact in late 2021, I think December 2021.
00:03:51.000And it wasn't until that complaint against him was filed, I think, that many of the people that were present that day even learned the extent of what was being coordinated by those Oath Keepers and even some of the Proud Boys.
00:04:11.000My explanation of the Capitol for like an entire year was that nobody knew what was going on nobody was trying to take over the building and then we find out a year later well actually not everybody was like that so we'll get into that we'll talk about the details of that case and like I said I don't think it necessarily makes the sentence justified I think it's still very excessive
00:04:39.000But it is very different than almost everybody else that was charged because most of the people that got charged got charged for trespassing.
00:04:50.000This guy brought a militia and a stockpile of guns to the capital city and was coordinating on a walkie-talkie.
00:07:27.000And the negotiations regarding the debt ceiling, they don't even approach addressing the real problem in the economy, which we've talked about a lot on this show over the last year, which is that this economy doesn't make anything.
00:07:43.000And this is every one of these problems that we see is downstream from that problem.
00:07:51.000Debt ceiling, Silicon Valley Bank, the abandonment of the dollar.
00:07:57.000The only thing this economy exports anymore is debt.
00:09:47.000Because when you sit down and think about all the anti-Semitism, so-called, so-called, not real, so-called, when you think about all the so-called anti-Semitism over the last, like, two years since Biden got into office,
00:10:05.000I alone am responsible for like a third of A.I.
00:11:03.000It was really the yay Mar-a-Lago dinner, which I was there for and a big part of.
00:11:10.000And other than that, it's like this show, and then that's it.
00:11:14.000I mean, you could talk about maybe those guys down in Florida, Handsome Truth and them, although I think they're maybe feds, they're a little suspect to me.
00:11:23.000Other than that though, what else really is there?
00:11:25.000It's like there's this remnant of the alt-right, which is I think very minimal and irrelevant, and then it's just like me, so...
00:11:33.000Now maybe that's a little egotistical or something, I don't know.
00:11:36.000Oh, and black people in New York City.
00:11:38.000Black people in New York City there, it's like, me and black people in New York City and yay, we're kind of like the big three of anti-Semitism in America.
00:11:49.000If you see any story about anti- well, it's actually, it's a big four.
00:11:54.000If you see a headline about anti-Semitism in America,
00:11:59.000The odds are pretty even that it would be one of the following four.
00:12:03.000Me, Kanye West, black people in New York City, Jews themselves.
00:12:58.000But I do find it a little bit funny they released this big report.
00:13:01.000Now here's another thing to think about.
00:13:04.000Isn't it crazy that over the last 5,000 years every country, like every place in the world that has had a significant Jewish minority has had a significant Jewish minority
00:13:19.000They all turned against them for the same reasons every single time?
00:13:27.000That like from Spain to France to England to Russia to Iran to Egypt to Nicaragua
00:13:39.000Okay, like, so every corner of the globe that has had a significant Jewish minority has eventually become extremely anti-Semitic and either segregated them, forcibly converted them, removed them,
00:13:58.000And they always give exactly the same reasons.
00:14:01.000Like Henry Ford has the same reasons as David Duke, has the same reasons as the Ayatollah of Iran, has the same reason as Osama Bin Laden, has the same reason as King Edward in the 13th century, has the same reason as Spain in the late 15th century, has the same reason as Russia, has the same reason as Dostoevsky, has...
00:14:27.000And they all come up with the same reason.
00:15:31.000We've known that since there have been Jewish people in the world, and don't get me wrong, my vision of society is that everybody is going to be equal and everything, but look, we got to have Christians running the country.
00:17:22.000Then they go on the headline and say, Acolyte, Acolyte.
00:17:25.000And it's like, for better or for worse, like either everyone I know is gonna be used to attack me, or I'll be used to attack everyone I know.
00:18:05.000So our first story is about the debt ceiling and I was supposed to cover this actually on Monday but I didn't really feel like it because I don't think it's that important.
00:18:15.000And like I said at the top of the show, people have been asking me, because this has now been going on actually since March, that the Republican-controlled House
00:18:28.000has been negotiating with the President Joe Biden about raising the debt ceiling and for those that don't know the debt ceiling goes back a long way and essentially the debt ceiling is a it's a tool that was imposed that allowed Congress to have some control
00:18:54.000Over the borrowing of the Treasury Department.
00:18:56.000Because the way that it was before, and this is my understanding, is that the Treasury Department could really just borrow as much money as they wanted.
00:19:04.000And the problem with this is that according to Article 1 of the Constitution, it's the House of Representatives that has the power of the purse.
00:19:13.000Meaning that all appropriations bills must originate in the House.
00:19:18.000Not just Congress, but specifically in the House of Representatives.
00:19:23.000And so the debt ceiling was imposed as a way that Congress would be able to control the borrowing of the United States government.
00:19:32.000And so it's up to Congress to set a limit for how much money can be borrowed.
00:19:36.000Now we have something like 30 trillion dollars in debt at this point.
00:19:41.000And in order for the Treasury Department to borrow any more money to continue paying
00:19:47.000The government's obligations because of course the the government has to spend a lot of money and We finance all of our spending with deficit with with debt We don't we don't make enough money in tax revenue Not even close
00:20:05.000to pay our obligations so we just have this perpetual constant borrowing with no end in sight and it's always going up and so we're reaching another debt ceiling you know they raise it every so many years
00:20:20.000And then we always reach it because we're always borrowing more money and we never pay any of it back.
00:20:26.000We never run a surplus, so the debt just keeps stacking.
00:20:30.000And every so often we have to have Congress pass a bill that will allow the government to borrow more money.
00:20:37.000And it always, like these other appropriations bills, becomes a battle.
00:20:41.000There's other situations like this like for example the Omnibus Spending Bill.
00:21:32.000We've been negotiating on this over the last few months.
00:21:36.000I think in March they passed a bill that would temporarily raise the debt ceiling and now we're facing another deadline here according to the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.
00:21:45.000On June 1st the federal government is going to run out of money and if they're unable to borrow it because they've come up against the debt ceiling they will no longer be able to pay their obligations.
00:21:56.000And so this is where all kinds of fear-mongering starts.
00:22:01.000And they start to say that, well, if Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling and the federal government can't borrow another dollar, then that means that they won't have any cash to pay Social Security benefits, to pay for Medicare, to pay interest on the debt.
00:22:20.000Now, it's a particularly big problem if the government doesn't have the cash to pay interest on the debt.
00:22:26.000Because, of course, if you don't pay interest on your debt, you default on the debt.
00:22:33.000And if the United States defaults on the debt, then the credit agencies are going to lower the rating of American debt.
00:22:42.000And this has happened before in American history.
00:22:45.000If they say that American debt is less reliable, if it's a less trustworthy investment, then it's going to cost the United States more to borrow money.
00:22:55.000And this is going to send shockwaves throughout the entire economy if we're going to have to pay a higher interest rate to borrow.
00:23:01.000Because, of course, essentially the whole world runs on American debt.
00:23:25.000The stock market is going to lose 20% of its value.
00:23:28.000Literally, this is what I was going to say on Monday from CNN.
00:23:34.000Moody Analytics says no corner of the global economy will be spared.
00:23:39.000If a government default lasts a long time, 7.8 million American jobs will vanish, borrowing rates will jump, the unemployment rate would soar to 8%, and a stock market plunge would erase $10 trillion in household wealth.
00:23:58.000That's why we have to pass a deal by June 1st.
00:24:03.000Now we didn't cover this on Monday because, as I said on Monday, it literally doesn't matter.
00:24:20.000Should we pull our money out of the stock market?
00:24:23.000And I've been saying no, because nobody in the White House, nobody in the House is going to allow the economy to contract.
00:24:32.000They're not going to allow the government to not pay its bills.
00:24:36.000And that's fundamentally because Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden,
00:24:44.000They are all beneficiaries of the system.
00:24:48.000Even though something like that may ultimately be the right thing to do, you know, probably in some cases it might make sense to let the government shut down.
00:24:58.000I've been a proponent of that sort of thinking for a long time.
00:26:02.000And the moment that you start restricting the availability of credit by raising the interest rate, like we have over the last year, everything starts to blow up.
00:26:30.000And now we're in a situation where we've got low growth, high inflation, high interest rates, and so things are going to be bad economically for a long time.
00:26:45.000So all those things that we thought we were doing when we thought we were out of the woods after 2008, we really weren't.
00:26:52.000And structurally, many of the problems have just gotten worse since then.
00:27:00.000What caused 2008, without getting extremely technical, it was the housing bubble.
00:27:07.000And the fact that there was so much debt that was given out, the fact that so much money was given out to buy homes, and then those mortgages that were given out were packaged up, they were securitized,
00:27:21.000into what were called mortgage-backed securities, collateralized debt obligations.
00:27:26.000These bad mortgages were packaged up and they were sold and given a great credit rating to all kinds of financial funds and pension funds.
00:27:37.000And once all these mortgages went bad, it blew up the whole economy.
00:27:48.000In the same way, bubbles that were created by extremely cheap and available credit, and then all that credit being bundled up, there's so much securitization of credit like that, and we got into that a little bit with Silicon Valley Bank.
00:29:25.000And anyway, so that's why this was this was never going to be an issue.
00:29:30.000Kevin McCarthy and Joe Biden are not gonna let
00:29:34.000The debt ceiling be breached and they're not going to let the debt ceiling be breached and have the government be without money because they're both concerned about winning the election.
00:29:42.000You know what they're both doing when this is going on?
00:29:48.000Both of them are looking at polling firms that are telling them what people think today about whose fault it is if we're going to default on the debt.
00:30:58.000And that's, even if you put in place extreme spending cuts for an indefinite period of time, it would take decades to reverse the deficits.
00:31:11.000And get to a point where we could stop raising the debt.
00:31:28.000And so here we are again having another debate over one of these appropriations measures about the debt ceiling.
00:31:37.000And the chief executive, the head of state, and the leader of the lower chamber of the Congress
00:31:45.000Are both going every day and looking at the polling firms to see what Americans, what percentage of Americans are blaming the respective party if the debt ceiling is breached, if we default on the debt.
00:32:01.000And then, how are the people going to vote in next November?
00:32:07.000And look, this isn't like revolutionary groundbreaking stuff here, but it just goes without saying, but that
00:32:13.000If we were actually serious about this deficit-debt problem and about the more fundamental problems, we'd be thinking about the next 50 years.
00:32:23.000We wouldn't be thinking about what Americans think about the situation today and how that's going to affect the election in 18 months.
00:32:35.000But anyway, this is the story today about the latest developments on these negotiations.
00:32:43.000It says, quote, details outlined by Reuters and the New York Times would allow Republicans to say they cut spending while Democrats could say they defended domestic programs.
00:32:53.000official told the news agency the White House was considering scaling back an increase of the IRS to hire more auditors, which was intended to target wealthy Americans.
00:33:05.000The Times reported negotiators were closing in on a deal that would raise the debt limit for two years while imposing strict caps on spending besides military or veterans for the same period.
00:33:19.000Republicans are seeking spending cuts to government programs in exchange for raising the $31.4 trillion cap on government borrowing.
00:33:27.000Biden said the two sides had different visions for how to get America's fiscal house in order, but added that all leaders involved agreed the default was not an option.
00:33:40.000Mr. McCarthy, who has been the most high-profile public face of the talks for his party, earlier said Democrats and Republicans had worked past midnight on Wednesday and would continue to negotiate.
00:33:52.000He said there's a couple issues still hanging out there that we've got to get done.
00:33:55.000We're going to work 24-7 to make that happen.
00:33:58.000Another key Republican said he believed a deal to raise the nation's debt ceiling was likely by Friday afternoon.
00:34:11.000Representative Kevin Hearn told Reuters, quote, we are inching closer to a deal.
00:34:14.000I think it's some of the finer points they are working on right now.
00:34:17.000You are likely to see a deal by tomorrow afternoon.
00:34:21.000So, this is what they're saying the deal is going to be.
00:34:26.000Biden is still going to increase the number of auditors in the IRS that are going to go after wealthy Americans, those that are making more than $400,000 per year, but he's just going to hire less than he would otherwise have.
00:34:41.000And Republicans are going to get the Democrats to agree on spending caps, and they're going to cap spending on everything other than military.
00:34:51.000Now if you know anything about federal government spending, you know that the vast majority of federal government spending they can't even touch.
00:35:01.000Because you've got two categories of spending.
00:35:03.000You've got what's called mandatory spending and then you've got discretionary spending.
00:35:08.000Mandatory spending, like the name implies, means that it's mandatory.
00:35:28.000And that's more than half of government spending.
00:35:31.000So when they talk about spending cuts, unless they're talking about touching Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, any spending cuts that they're doing, it's going to only apply to like 40% of the budget because the majority of it is not, it's untouchable.
00:35:49.000Then when you break down discretionary spending, discretionary spending is controlled year over year.
00:35:56.000The biggest item by far in discretionary spending is military spending.
00:36:00.000So, for example, in the last military budget, I think Congress appropriated $850 billion, $900 billion, biggest military budget ever.
00:36:12.000Military is by far the number one discretionary item.
00:36:22.000Mandatory is the majority of spending.
00:36:26.000Then you've got discretionary spending and the majority of that is military spending.
00:36:31.000Now both the mandatory spending and the military spending are not going to be touched by these spending caps.
00:36:40.000Then, they say we're not going to touch veterans benefits, which that's not a big part of it, but it's significant within the discretionary part of the budget.
00:37:19.00073% of the budget is mandatory spending.
00:37:31.000Of that, 53% is Social Security, 28% is Medicare, 5% is education, and it goes down from there.
00:37:38.000Discretionary spending is 22% of the budget, of which 46.5% of that is military, although that's going up.
00:37:49.000And then the next biggest item is education at 10%, health at 9%, vets benefits at 6%.
00:37:55.000So between vets benefits and military, that's 52% of the discretionary budget, 52% of discretionary spending, which is 22% of total spending.
00:38:08.000So you do the math on that, that's less than 10% of federal government spending is being affected by these spending caps.
00:38:21.000You break down the total spending, it's overall 40% of it is Social Security, 22% is Medicare, 10% is military.
00:38:34.000So that's 72%, Vets Benefits is 4%, 75% of the spending, and then you factor in interest, will not be touched by the spending caps.
00:38:48.000So that just gives you an idea of how frivolous the entire conversation... So do you understand now when I say this literally doesn't matter?
00:38:59.000Now they have been having these protracted negotiations on the debt ceiling for the last two, three months.
00:39:09.000And over the last two weeks they've been saying if they don't pass a deal on the debt ceiling
00:39:16.000Then we're going to default on the debt, we're going to lose 8 million jobs, the economy's going to shrink, the stock market's going to wipe out $10 trillion in value, unemployment's going to go to 8%.
00:39:28.000But what are we really talking about here?
00:39:31.000We're talking about 10% of the budget.
00:39:34.000We're talking about how many additional auditors will be hired, and we're talking about spending caps on like 10%.
00:39:50.000So, in two years, we'll be having the same conversation.
00:39:54.000If I'm still doing the show in two years, if I'm still alive, knock on wood, and if I'm still doing this show, we'll be doing another show about the debt ceiling.
00:40:12.000We'll be having the same discussion if there's a split government, you know, like if one party controls House, the other White House.
00:40:21.000But all things being equal, we should be having the exact same conversation.
00:40:24.000It'll be kicking the can down the road again, more deficits, more debt, no end in sight, modest spending cuts, the same conversation.
00:40:34.000And here's the thing, like, I'm just not interested in that.
00:40:38.000Like all these political people, they'll go live on TV and they'll do it.
00:40:42.000I mean, there's been fights over the debt ceiling since the 70s.
00:40:46.000One of the most significant ones was in 96 with Newt Gingrich.
00:40:52.000There's one with Ted Cruz back in, I think, 2011 or 2013.
00:40:59.000And you got guys like Sean Hannity that have literally been talking about every debt ceiling increase for 30 years, and it's the same thing.
00:41:06.000And it's like, I'm just not interested in talking about, well, well, Bob, the latest polling shows that Republicans are doing a good job of blaming the Democrats in the event that there's a default or whatever.
00:41:20.000Because it doesn't get even close to the real issue, which is
00:41:24.000This is a country that only exports debt.
00:42:23.000They're going to take that money from you, so you're poorer, and they're going to take that money and they can't even use it on tanks or airplanes.
00:42:30.000They can't use it on benefits for old people or retarded people.
00:42:34.000They have to... that's an interest payment.
00:42:37.000They have to pay that to American debt holders.
00:42:44.000And it's the same thing with the trade deficit.
00:42:47.000We've got a $500 billion trade deficit with China.
00:43:14.000Because we pay for it by giving them our debt, by giving them our assets, or giving them our currency.
00:43:23.000And so when we're giving them, for example, the things that we import from China, it's like cheap manufactured goods, and in exchange we're giving them land.
00:43:31.000We're giving them our debt, which we then pay interest on.
00:43:35.000Or we're giving them our cash and they're building up a reserve of American dollars.
00:43:43.000And so you begin to understand that this country, almost all of its consumption is fed by debt.
00:43:50.000And the day that we're unable to sell our debt to other countries, the day that we're unable to print money and give it to them, and they buy it from us and they give us stuff in return for it, on the promise that the American government will always pay interest, will always take from the taxpayer,
00:44:08.000And this is why, across the board, people are becoming materially poorer.
00:44:33.000Everybody thinks that we're getting richer because, like, the GDP keeps going up.
00:44:37.000But understand that the GDP is just a tool that we use to measure the economy.
00:45:25.000If you go and get furniture these days, which is what people do at IKEA, or they go to these other places, is your couch made out of leather?
00:46:11.000And so in one sense people can say, oh I can go to a store and I can like get, I can fill up my arms with stuff, but it's all crap, it's all garbage.
00:46:24.000So, between the inflation, and the low economic growth, and the declining productivity, and the rising debt, and the devaluation of the currency, our economic, it's a disaster.
00:47:13.000And so, where's the politicians going to come in and say, here's the bold plan, here's the vision for how we're actually going to have a solvent country?
00:47:22.000Here's how we're going to actually have a solvent country with a large productive sector that makes things.
00:48:55.000Because they produce oil and then they sell the oil to the world who needs it and the world gives them their money and they can they could spend whatever they want.
00:49:03.000They can buy whatever they want with it.
00:49:06.000Now, if America was producing the things that the world needed, if we were selling all of our oil, and if we were selling all of our raw materials, and we were making technology and food,
00:49:18.000And through our education system, we're raising up the finest workforce in the world.
00:49:23.000And by investing in the industries of the future, we have the most efficient and productive capital combined with the most productive workforce.
00:49:33.000We would produce so much value as a nation that things would be just as cheap as oil is for people in Saudi Arabia.
00:49:45.000People could have as much stuff as they want because it'd be being financed by other countries in the world.
00:52:00.000sentenced Oath Keepers leader Stuart Rhodes to 18 years in prison on Thursday, calling him an ongoing threat to the United States.
00:52:07.000It was the longest sentence yet in the matter of the January 6th riot at the U.S.
00:52:11.000Capitol, and the first on charges of seditious conspiracy.
00:52:17.000The judge told Rhodes at the sentencing, quote, You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, to the republic, and to the very fabric of our democracy.
00:52:28.000You are smart, you are compelling, and you are charismatic.
00:52:30.000Frankly, that is what makes you dangerous.
00:52:34.000Rhodes replied that he was a political prisoner and that he felt like the lead character in Franz Kafka's The Trial, whose guilt was foreordained.
00:52:43.000He said, quote, my goal will be to be an American Solzhenitsyn to expose the criminality of this regime, he told the court.
00:52:51.000I'm just realizing now I said Dostoevsky earlier.
00:52:53.000I meant Solzhenitsyn when I talked about the Jews.
00:52:57.000I meant Solzhenitsyn 200 years together.
00:53:07.000Anyway, prosecutors sought at least 25 years describing the January 2021 riot as a brazen attack that threatened the most important and vulnerable part of American democracy.
00:53:18.000The judge agreed with their claim that Rhodes had been a leader of the insurrection and agreed to classify his actions as terrorism, which drastically increased the length of the sentence.
00:53:29.000The judge said what we cannot have, what we absolutely cannot have, is a group of citizens who, because they didn't like the outcome of the election, were then prepared to take up arms in order to foment a revolution.
00:53:43.000An FBI informant embedded in the Oath Keepers had recorded Rhodes saying the group should have come to the Capitol armed and hanged House Speaker Nancy Pelosi from the lamppost.
00:54:05.000Him and his group spent thousands of dollars on weapons and equipment and stashed them in a hotel room in Virginia just prior to January 6th during the riot.
00:54:14.000Rhodes stayed outside the building taking phone calls and messages while other Oath Keepers stormed the building.
00:54:22.000They say that he acted like a battlefield general during the melee.
00:54:26.000His defense argued that the weapons stash was never used and that the militia was on a purely defensive mission.
00:54:34.000So, this is a little bit complicated here.
00:54:38.000Now, I'll just say full disclosure, I don't like Stuart Rhodes and I don't like the Oath Keepers.
00:54:44.000I was there at Atlanta Stop the Steal in November 2020 and
00:54:52.000The Oath Keepers were providing security to the Stop the Steal protest.
00:54:58.000And I was rolling with all those people.
00:54:59.000I was with Ali, I was with Alex Jones, I was with that whole crew.
00:55:16.000And I brought all my supporters out there.
00:55:20.000And then the day that they were supposed to have their big event, the Oath Keepers literally came up to me in a hotel, I have it on video, and they said, we're singling you out, we are not going to protect you.
00:55:33.000We're going to protect everybody else, but not you.
00:55:36.000They told me, we're providing security to every speaker, and every VIP, and every attendee, except for you, because you're a white nationalist.
00:55:56.000Then, I confronted Stuart Rhodes and his ugly pig girlfriend in the street with the Groipers, and he wasn't so tough, and I said, hey bitch, why didn't you protect me at the rally?
00:56:07.000And he was like, well, aren't you a white nationalist?
00:56:51.000Because they're all former military and police and they say that, you know, we're going to keep our oath to the Constitution that we took when we became feds, when we became military or cops.
00:57:03.000So, it's kind of just asking for trouble.
00:57:32.000If he was actually a Fed, I doubt they would give him 18 years.
00:57:38.000But he created an organization that's basically a honeypot for Feds, and the proof is right here.
00:57:47.000They charged him with seditious conspiracy, and here's the thing.
00:57:54.000The nature of most of the charges against the Capitol defendants
00:57:59.000is that they are misdemeanors for variously different kinds of trespassing.
00:58:05.000There's over a thousand defendants at this point, and almost all of them, almost all of them, like 900 of them, are for misdemeanors like trespassing, unlawful presence on Capitol grounds, which is like trespassing, parading inside the Capitol, which is also like trespassing,
00:58:28.000Very few of the defendants got hit with felonies.
00:58:31.000The other category is like violence with police, guys that assaulted the cops.
00:58:57.000If a police officer opens the door, and you walk in, and he doesn't try to stop you, and he says, hey, this is your right to be here, and then you get charged with trespassing?
00:59:06.000Now, how could you really have motive to commit a crime?
00:59:10.000How could there be intentionality if you didn't even know, if you're being encouraged?
00:59:16.000You can say that some people didn't even know they were committing a crime.
00:59:19.000I think that's fair to say, and therefore should be exonerated.
00:59:23.000But, if you're beating up a cop with a fire extinguisher, it's really hard to argue that you thought you were doing the right thing.
00:59:31.000It's really hard to argue that you didn't know you were breaking the law.
00:59:35.000And so, although I think everybody should be exonerated in general, because I think it was a righteous cause,
00:59:42.000I also know that that's not going to happen and that's impractical, and probably if you're beating up cops, you go to jail.
01:00:45.000You're not gonna get away with beating up law enforcement unless there's a regime change, unless there's a literal revolution and there's a new government installed and therefore all the old government employees become fugitives and they get hunted down and thrown in jail.
01:01:37.000So you have the vast majority are being charged with trespassing, unlawful presence, parading, disorderly conduct.
01:01:47.000There's a small group that have been charged with violent crimes like aggravated battery, assault, people that destroyed the media equipment, vandalism, breaking the window, breaking the cameras, that kind of thing.
01:02:01.000Then the smallest group are the guys that got charged with obstructing an act of Congress, conspiracy, seditious conspiracy.
01:02:18.000Again, here we have a whole different ballgame from most of the rioters.
01:02:22.000They're buying thousands of dollars worth of guns.
01:02:26.000They're bringing them across state lines, across the river from the Capitol.
01:02:31.000They buy a hotel room and fill it up with guns.
01:02:35.000Then they create teams and they put them in armor and helmets and they send them into the Capitol and you got a guy on the phone across the street directing them where to go
01:02:48.000So like it's kind of hard to make the argument that that wasn't at the minimum conspiracy and at the most some kind of sedition.
01:02:58.000Now New York Times reported recently that that the FBI was considering charging me with conspiracy but they didn't.
01:03:07.000And some people said well that makes Nick a fed because he didn't get charged.
01:03:11.000I would say very simply it's because there was no conspiracy.
01:03:16.000Stuart Rhodes was charged with seditious conspiracy.
01:03:21.000Because he brought a hotel room full of guns to the Capitol and created a bunch of GO teams and some went in and some held back and he directed them from the phone and that just simply didn't happen with me or anyone I know.
01:03:38.000I went out there with no plan and I don't want to talk too much about it because who knows I may still be under investigation
01:03:46.000But I went out there really just planning to attend the rally, and that was it.
01:03:53.000And, you know, I walked to the Capitol, I gave a speech, and then I left.
01:03:58.000I had no intention of going in, I never talked about going in, I never talked about going in with anybody else, or anything like that.
01:04:07.000So, you have to point out that what Stuart Rhodes did is different than what everybody else did.
01:04:13.000You could say, you can separate these two things out and say that 900 people, it was a spur of the moment thing, they just went in.
01:04:22.000But then there was this one guy with the group that clearly had other plans.
01:04:26.000Now, I don't think that he deserved an 18-year sentence and I don't think you can call this terrorism because it's not terrorism.
01:04:34.000The definition of terrorism is that you are trying to create terror, obviously, terrorize a population with violence in order to achieve some political objective, specifically targeting civilians or civilian infrastructure.
01:05:10.000I think Stuart Rhodes, it probably would have been appropriate for him to get some sort of conspiracy charge like some of these other groups.
01:05:19.000But I think this 18-year sentence that he received because of the terrorism modifier, I think that's probably excessive.
01:05:26.000But ultimately, a lot of these guys were just being really dumb, and I hate to... I don't mean to victim blame here, but again, there's a fine line between you enter into the Capitol through the door, and you show up with a stash of guns, and you send in different teams in body armor.
01:06:31.000But that being said, you see the result here.
01:06:36.000Now, you can go out there and protest, and you can go out there and do what we were trying to do, which was to encourage Republican legislators to stand by the Republican president through the constitutional process.
01:06:48.000It's a totally different thing to show up with guns and to send people into the building and have walkie-talkies and say, OK, we're entering on the East Side.
01:06:58.000Like, that's a totally different story, and that's not what anybody should be doing for many, many, many reasons.
01:07:07.000So, when he says, I'm a political prisoner, it's like, kind of?
01:07:11.000I mean, in the truest sense, yes, because you made yourself a true political opponent of the regime by taking up arms in that way.
01:07:21.000So, my hair is just a fucking disaster and it's making me really angry.
01:13:48.000I don't think I'm gonna comment yet on that But yeah, I don't think I'll comment on it maybe at another point Because see if I'm gonna comment on it, I'm not gonna do it here Maybe I'll give an interview if somebody wants to do an interview Maybe I'll go on fresh and fit and I'll tell them the whole story.
01:16:22.000And so if there are people that are even slightly disloyal or two-faced, or people are so stupid you can't tell the difference, either way I don't want to be involved with that anymore.
01:18:03.000I'm at the point in my life where I need to be surrounded by people that are ride or die.
01:18:07.000I need to be surrounded by people that are with me to the end, and I also need people that are not going to hurt me by their own, by their own mistakes, by their own stupidity.
01:18:41.000We like to have fun and we like to have a good time, and you know I like that.
01:18:46.000But at the same time, we also have to have absolute discretion and absolute loyalty because we're running a political movement which is totally opposed by all the most powerful institutions.
01:18:58.000And for a long time, I was probably negligent in my responsibility to say that.
01:20:06.000We've got about a hundred more that are doing more irregular work.
01:20:10.000They do the events and they do social media stuff and they're in group chats.
01:20:15.000We've got, I think it's 76 interns that are there every day doing really sophisticated work like accounting and finance and graphics and videos and all sorts of things like that.
01:20:30.000We're working on all sorts of projects which you'll see in the latter half of this year.
01:20:35.000And each and every one of them is risking something by being a part of this.
01:20:40.000Each and every one of them, even though we're very discreet, even though we're very good about security,
01:20:47.000Every one of them is taking on a little bit of risk by participating in this, but they take that on because they believe in what they're doing.
01:20:53.000They're taking on a little bit of risk by working for the number one most attacked, most targeted person politically in the country because they believe in the mission which is America first and Jesus Christ is King.
01:21:08.000It is not responsible, and I'm not doing my job, if
01:21:16.000They're sacrificing and they're risking themselves and this movement is going to be hurt by detrimental people who are stupid and careless and have demonstrated that repeatedly.
01:21:32.000I'm being derelict in my duty if I allow that to happen.
01:21:37.000For a long time, I just like to have fun.
01:21:40.000But after January 6th, you see there's real consequences.
01:21:43.000After January 6th, and what's been happening lately, you see that there's real consequences.
01:21:48.000And they don't just come for me, they come for everybody that associates with me, everybody that I've ever associated with.
01:21:55.000And so, if I go out and say something, well, you know, I have some discretion and I have to own my decisions, but I can't allow people that have a bad habit
01:22:38.000Smiley sent nude pictures of himself to somebody and suddenly that became the problem of the number one Christian white movement in the country for no reason.
01:22:59.000You know, Baked Alaska's been nothing but trouble for me over the last six years and it was repaid by he feels entitled to go out and give his... speak freely about the state of the movement.
01:23:12.000Well, you can now speak freely outside of it.
01:23:18.000So, that's how I feel about the entire situation.
01:23:28.000As the leader and I know that's going to come as a I know a lot of people are going to welcome that and we're going to make some other decisions that are going to reflect that in the future.
01:23:38.000Because we've had to learn this lesson a hard way we can't allow it to go on any further.