00:00:25.000And for those that have not been keeping up with the program, we had you on, I think it was in October, so pretty recently.
00:00:32.000And Since then, you've been making a lot of noise, and I've been loving it.
00:00:37.000I know a lot of people in this movement have been watching what you've been doing and really watching.
00:00:42.000And I think you summed it up the best when you tweeted out that quote from your pastor about somebody on the front lines and how they're the ones that are supposed to go out there and take the bullet or go on and do great things.
00:00:58.000And so just tell us I mean, I know you've been getting in a lot of fights with people like John Podhoritz and a very specific type of person.
00:01:28.000You know, my Twitter followers, Gab followers, folks on Facebook, you know, I've got a lot of people who are supporting me and, you know, locally.
00:03:24.000They better not be somebody of another faith who's telling me about my faith because that really, there is one gospel, one.
00:03:31.000There is one gospel and it was given to us by Jesus Christ.
00:03:36.000And if somebody comes to me and tells me that I'm not being a good Christian, they better know their scripture and they better know what they're talking about because all of these attacks that you saw, I was counter punching against all of them.
00:04:32.000I then went on this border adjustment tax, which was another terrible idea that Speaker Ryan put out.
00:04:38.000And the same people that were attacking me on Trans Pacific Partnership, the same people that were attacking me on getting Trump elected, the same people that were attacking me on the border adjustment tax were the same people attacking me just very recently on going on fascination and also on concealed carry.
00:05:00.000So, So, as I start noticing this connection of this group of people who happen to belong to this same tribe attacking me, well, what am I going to do?
00:05:30.000And I didn't recognize it for what it was.
00:05:33.000So, When somebody comes across and says you're a racist or you're an anti Semite or any of these things, the reality is look, I want free speech on the internet.
00:05:46.000I want on social media, and that's been a big push for me, has been because I'm advocating for a wall, right?
00:05:56.000There's a lot of other conservatives that are advocating for a wall because in order to conserve something, you have to have something left to conserve, right?
00:06:05.000If we make all these DACA recipients Voters, we're going to lose Texas.
00:06:33.000And the question I guess I would ask is so you're telling me somebody's race makes it okay for them to break into my country and break my laws?
00:06:44.000That's what they're basically arguing, Nick.
00:06:51.000That is exactly what has happened to the conservative movement, not just to you and to, I think, a lot of people in this movement, but I mean, many people have experienced this where we want to put America first.
00:07:18.000And like you said, it wasn't like we went out and we had this vendetta.
00:07:22.000It wasn't like you went out there going and looking for people to attack.
00:07:26.000But like you said, we all watched it play out in real time where a very select group of people come out in the same line of attack, the same kind of tactics, the same reasoning, using your faith against you.
00:07:40.000And they kind of, in a way, me and Laura Loomer were talking about this.
00:07:44.000If it weren't so aggressive, if it weren't so much out there, I don't think any.
00:07:50.000Nobody would have a problem with that.
00:07:51.000And it's ironic because they use that quote of yours from Fascination where you said, you know, I'm not going to let Muslims or Jewish people take away from my faith in my country.
00:08:01.000And it's ironic because I think that's where it would stop.
00:08:04.000But then there's the pile on, there's the using your faith against you.
00:08:07.000And it just goes to show the utter hypocrisy of people that say, like you said, they want to conserve.
00:08:13.000But, you know, what is it exactly that they want to conserve?
00:08:16.000You know, when it comes to the wall and some of these other things, you won't find a lot of particular establishment GOP-E type people there.
00:08:24.000Your new legislation, because this kind of ties into that, your shall not censor legislation.
00:08:30.000Now, this is the first policy proposal that I've seen in my entire life to address this problem, which is social media censorship.
00:08:37.000And everybody talks about it, everybody complains about it.
00:08:40.000And you're the only one who's put forward like a real solution, legislative solution.
00:08:45.000And why don't you tell us a little bit about that?
00:08:47.000What is the shall not censor proposal?
00:08:50.000So, the argument that I'm making is that.
00:08:55.000Social media has been transformed into the modern day de facto town square.
00:09:01.000So, in order for us, in order for our First Amendment free speech rights to carry to social media, there needs to be one light touch federal statute passed.
00:09:14.000And so, I put the framework of this together working with some very, very intelligent attorneys.
00:09:22.000So, it's not just me dreaming this thing up.
00:09:24.000Although, I am going to fight it tooth and nail.
00:10:25.000And so he's done all this undercover work, and people are pretending they're him, and they're tweeting at other people who think it's this guy, which It's not.
00:10:34.000And so, by not giving him his verified status, it is a form of censorship of his speech because other people are mimicking his speech, throttling your accounts so that your tweets don't go as far, embargoing your content.
00:10:54.000When they throw you off, you basically lose everything.
00:10:59.000And so, if you're a reporter, could you imagine if If a very famous reporter who had done a lot of research and had done a lot of tweets and had a lot of information out there, it was all just wiped out.
00:11:13.000Or imagine you and I and one other person are having a conversation.
00:11:16.000Three people are having a conversation and one person gets banned.
00:11:22.000Well, now that three way conversation looks like it's a two way conversation to everybody else, but it now doesn't make sense.
00:12:24.000I think if we didn't see investors dumping money into Twitter, you could make the argument that Twitter will end up winning or losing in the marketplace.
00:12:36.000And when people make the argument, and I've heard this so many times from libertarians, and sometimes I just want to shake the stuffing out of them when I hear this.
00:12:46.000They go, oh, so now you're saying the government's taking over businesses.
00:12:51.000No, I'm saying it's a light touch regulation that says, or law that says, Government, your First Amendment rights extend onto those social media platforms.
00:13:01.000If you go to a construction site, the government already says you're mandated to wear a hard hat or safety glasses or my Ford F 150 has two oxygen sensors on it.
00:13:14.000Do you think that Ford decided we're going to add some extra cost to this thing and just put oxygen sensors on it?
00:13:45.000You know, if you said something like, I just bought a new rifle and I'm going to D.C. right now, I'm hopping in the car and I'm going to go do something with it.
00:13:54.000Okay, that could be a credible threat, right?
00:13:56.000You know, somebody could absolutely perceive that.
00:14:03.000Twitter and Facebook and YouTube are all protected by the 1996 law, the CDA.
00:14:12.000And CDA Section 230 says that if Nick Fuentes goes on Breitbart.com right now and says something like, hey, I just bought a new rifle and I'm going to go shoot the hell out of somebody somewhere, right?
00:14:25.000Breitbart is totally protected by that.
00:15:03.000We're having some technical difficulties here.
00:15:06.000I'm getting some notes passed to me about this.
00:15:09.000But this is the one thing where you're right on the conservative movement about like the libertarians who say you're censoring or you're interfering in private business.
00:15:19.000You're interfering in the free market when you go in and you regulate Twitter, you regulate Facebook, you pass anti censorship laws.
00:15:27.000And that's how the argument usually goes.
00:15:29.000And ironically, it's always the people that aren't getting censored, right?
00:15:32.000You know, it's always the The Ben Shapiro's, it's always the Steven Crowders that say you can't touch Twitter, you can't touch Facebook.
00:15:39.000And of course, they're going to say that because they're not getting censored, right?
00:15:42.000But what's so important, I think, about social media and what's so important about this proposal is that in this day and age where we have mass media, where you have television, radio, newspapers, and you have all of that in the hands of very few people, very centralized control, if you really want to have a culture of free speech and free expression, the only way that you can have that is with social media.
00:16:08.000That's why it's so important that you get the shall not censor in.
00:16:10.000Because without social media, without Being able to go on Twitter, start an account, and reach millions of people, 300 million monthly active users, you either have to go through a gatekeeper, through a television station, a radio station, a newspaper company, you have to get hired by people, you know, and there's so much of the media is in the hands of, you know, six large corporations.
00:16:33.000I think it's something like 95% of media is owned by six companies, or you're reduced to just, you know, like stuffing mailboxes, writing your manifesto and going around the neighborhood on your bike and stuffing into people's mailboxes.
00:16:45.000So, You know, it just blows my mind how people don't understand just the gravity of having a free and open internet, having those censorship laws in place.
00:16:56.000And it's so great that somebody is at least putting something out there, you know, because for the longest time it was Jack Ferguson, or who's the one that runs Twitter?
00:17:52.000I mean, they're insulated in their bubble.
00:17:54.000But the other part is, they're not getting paid to care about it.
00:17:58.000These guys are all caring about where their money is coming from.
00:18:03.000And I don't mean all of them because, you know, you got a guy like Louis Gomer down in Texas.
00:18:12.000I mean, the guy won't go on the Freedom Caucus because he feels like he's given his vote to somebody else if he goes on the Freedom Caucus.
00:18:19.000I mean, the guy is absolutely independent.
00:19:09.000You know, back to your earlier comment there about the Ben Shapiro's of the world, I'm going to touch on this one more time because I want to make a crystal clear point to everybody who's watching this today and even to Ben Shapiro.
00:19:21.000Because had Ben Shapiro not been attacking me, You know, Ben Shapiro comes across like this conservative and he attacks Trump.
00:19:30.000I wouldn't have known Ben Shapiro was Jewish.
00:20:07.000I'm going to call out anybody who attacks me.
00:20:10.000If they come at me from the position of.
00:20:13.000And the reason that Breitbart, I believe, disavowed me was because of that, me putting three parentheses around bigot when Ari attacked me.
00:20:23.000And he started this entire thing when I made a tweet and said, just completed my 18th public town hall in Wisconsin.
00:20:33.000Retire Ryan, hire Neilan, or elect Neilan.
00:20:56.000And then I get Joel Pollack over at Breitbart, who, again, I wouldn't have known he was Jewish because I don't pay attention to these things.
00:21:15.000I didn't decide, oh, hey, I got to go check out what somebody's religion is or what country they came from or what country their grandparents came from.
00:22:13.000You can have Robert Spencer, not Richard Spencer, but Robert Spencer come on Fox News, and he's like a scholar of Islam, and he'll tell you how Muhammad was a rapist and Muhammad was a pedophile, and Muslims are all extremists, and the Quran is this and that.
00:22:28.000But then, God forbid, you get anybody on that says, well, actually, there are other groups that there are issues with.
00:22:33.000Actually, there are other groups that there are problems going on or patterns going on.
00:22:37.000And so, everybody, I think, on the right, at least on the right, but I think everybody in the world understands.
00:22:43.000That there are patterns with certain groups, that there are group interests in the country.
00:22:48.000I mean, that's one of the big problems with having a multi ethnic country.
00:22:52.000And really, I think it's a testament to who you are and your character that you've been honest about this because people notice these things.
00:22:59.000And especially myself as a young conservative climbing the greasy ladder in the Republican establishment a couple of years ago when I was in Leadership Institute, college Republicans, you notice these things.
00:23:12.000How many times I got offered a trip to Israel, how many times people told me, You cannot talk about this topic, or else you don't get the job, or else you don't get the play, you don't get the networking, the money, what have you.
00:23:25.000I mean, I had people coming to me saying, you know, I'd really like to help you out, but you can't talk about Israel.
00:23:30.000We'd really like to help you out, but you got to stop talking about these globalists, you know, or whatever's going on in the media.
00:23:36.000And so it's a real testament to what's happening in the country where people like yourself and all over the country, I think this is happening with the younger generation where they're saying, we don't care.
00:24:38.000I mean, if you looked at my verified timeline, and for everybody on Twitter who doesn't, in fact, I'll show you what it looks like.
00:24:48.000For everybody on Twitter who isn't verified, you don't have a column on your notifications that shows just your verified notifications.
00:25:01.000But if you are verified, they break it out for you.
00:25:05.000And I'll tell you what, if you look at my verified notifications, I am being attacked not by Mexicans and I'm advocating for a wall, not by blacks and I'm advocating for all sorts of things that actually would help the African American community.
00:26:59.000I'd see him, you know, he would destroy the feminists, he'd destroy all the liberals and everything.
00:27:05.000And it was like kind of a footnote that he was Jewish.
00:27:07.000Well, then when I really started to get into it, as everybody who gets into it does when you run for office, when you start to mingle with donors or with political people, people like Bannon, people in media, and you start making some statements and people come after you.
00:27:42.000It only increases the curiosity, the skepticism, when on top of the fact that you're noticing this pattern, you're not allowed to talk about it.
00:27:50.000And if you do, ADL comes and shuts you down on Twitter.
00:28:20.000But like you said, we got to move right along because I know there's another really big thing that I'm really proud of you for.
00:28:27.000I mean, I really love this part about your campaign the free Clint.
00:28:31.000Part of your campaign, this initiative, which I think is remarkable because, and this kind of lends itself to what we were just talking about.
00:28:37.000The first and only commutation of President Trump's administration so far is Shalom Rabashkin, who was a bank fraudster who was hiring illegal immigrants.
00:28:47.000And you brought up Lieutenant Clive, I think it's Longes, right?
00:30:12.000It's not like they said, oh, yeah, we got a terrible guy here and we want to.
00:30:17.000No, it was the rules of engagement and the way that Obama treated military folks.
00:30:25.000And so there are 30 banker boxes worth of signatures, hundreds of thousands of American signatures at the Pentagon right now to release this guy.
00:30:36.000And we're calling on President Trump to commute his sentence, to pardon him.
00:31:27.000You know, it's the heart of a good person right there.
00:31:29.000It just breaks your heart that he's going to be in jail.
00:31:33.000And I tweeted out an infographic the other day that showed all the exes for one day each that he's been in and all the exes that he's going to be in.
00:31:42.000And it's just absolutely heart wrenching.
00:31:45.000So I hope that President Trump sees that.
00:31:49.000I know he's got some attorneys who work on these types of things.
00:31:53.000And I just think that this should have been the number one.
00:31:57.000This should have been the first one because veterans worked so hard to get President Trump.
00:32:02.000Active duty service members worked so hard to get President Trump.
00:32:06.000He talked every day about what he was going to do for veterans, what he was going to do for the military.
00:32:11.000And here we've got a guy in Leavenworth who was protecting his platoon.
00:32:15.000And I just think that that would send a great message to these people that work so hard every day to protect us.
00:32:21.000You and I, right now, Nick, are having this conversation because there are people around the globe risking their lives for our safety right now.
00:32:29.000So, I think that's the least that I can do is advocate for somebody who's in jail right now.
00:32:48.000But, I mean, just on top of that, that not only did he not commute Clint's sentence, but the guy that he did commute was a bank fraudster, someone hiring illegal immigrants.
00:32:58.000I mean, that's really what that's turning the knife a little bit.
00:33:03.000I mean, of all the people that would deserve a commuted sentence or a pardon or anything like that, it would be somebody in the military.
00:33:13.000And 100% on the rules of engagement under Obama and some of the things that go on.
00:33:18.000Because, you know, we look at the military and under the past administration, we looked at the military like it was, I don't even know what they thought it was supposed to be.
00:33:28.000We want to get women on the front lines and transgenders and, you know, just really not focusing on what matters over there, which is getting the job done and also having our people.
00:33:39.000And then, of course, there's the VA and they get mistreated when they come back.
00:33:42.000But, you know, for this administration, like you said, that was built on top of the salt of the earth Americans, people like the veterans and the veterans that go out there and protect us.
00:33:51.000I mean, that would be a real show of solidarity with the troops.
00:33:54.000That would be a real, I think, really a symbolic action.
00:33:58.000And obviously, not symbolic for Clint.
00:33:59.000I mean, we say, you know, the political significance is symbolic, but not for the people that are languishing in prison like that.
00:35:00.000What do you think is the status so far?
00:35:03.000Well, I think that going for tax reform first kind of made it less of.
00:35:12.000I think that would have been a good leverage point was to solve this DACA thing and say, look, we're building a wall and we're deporting these folks or you're not getting taxes, as opposed to doing the tax reform because now the folks got their tax reform or not tax reform, the tax cuts because it really isn't reform.
00:35:58.000You know, people are going to get their social security checks.
00:36:02.000I'm sure that Trump will handle the national monuments differently than Obama did.
00:36:08.000He's not going to put them off limits and make this, you know, into a pissing contest where, you know, he makes people hate the government even more if that's possible.
00:36:20.000You know, there's no reason to hate the National Park Service.
00:36:59.000I'm telling you, he had better not go back on his word.
00:37:02.000That's all I'm going to say about that right now because it is going to be a deal breaker if he figures out a way to give those DACA folks a place to stay here in the United States.
00:37:17.000They have to go home with their parents and do their paperwork.
00:37:23.000They have to because you can't break into somebody else's country.
00:38:24.000You know, you imagine all the taxpayers out there that are working their butts off five days a week and they're paying tax money to the government and that's going to these DACA kids.
00:38:35.000Decided, we were born when our parents had us and when we paid taxes.
00:38:40.000I don't think any of us signed a contract and said we accepted responsibility for all these people that decided one day they wanted to break the law and come over here.
00:39:30.000And what would you think if Donald Trump made a deal?
00:39:32.000Because maybe if you saw this this week, Donald Trump said that if he gets $18 billion for the wall, if he gets $18 billion, I think it's an additional $17 billion for immigration security.
00:39:43.000If he gets an end to chain migration, an end to the visa lottery system, then he might make a deal on DACA.
00:39:49.000What would you think about a deal like that?
00:39:51.000Is it worth the DACA kids, or is that the hill to die?
00:39:54.000I mean, what would you think about that?
00:42:32.000And now they get to vote and they get to consume the resources and they just get to live in this great country.
00:42:37.000I mean, even that, we talk about welfare and we talk about voting as if even if they couldn't take advantage of that, they weren't taking advantage just by virtue of being here and consuming and living here.
00:43:26.000All the people that we used to be able to count on for being anti war people online, on Twitter, on YouTube, in this movement, and even some Republicans.
00:43:36.000And it seemed like everybody on the right side was advocating for war in Iran, advocating for regime change in Iran.
00:43:43.000What did you think about that when you see the picture of the girl taking her hijab off?
00:43:46.000And I'm sure Bill Crystal is over there salivating at the thought of another war in the Middle East.
00:43:51.000What did you think about that last week?
00:43:54.000All I could think about was, let's build a wall.
00:43:58.000Look, I have empathy for people in other countries who are living under regimes.
00:44:06.000But I have more empathy for our soldiers who are deployed in other countries who could be deployed on our southern border right now.
00:44:16.000We could take all the folks out of Africa and put them on our southern border.
00:44:21.000Maybe put a few of them to protect those folks in South Africa who are being genocided right now, those white folks who are being genocided, and put the rest of our folks on the southern border while the wall is built, right?
00:44:34.000I have no interest in getting involved in Iran's war.
00:45:14.000Bashar Assad's picture on their prayer mats.
00:45:17.000And that's why the fundamentalists were attacking Bashar Assad, because he wasn't fundamentalist enough.
00:45:22.000I mean, so you mean to tell me that the same knuckleheads, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Crystal, the rest of them, who all advocated for Libya and Egypt, we got the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:45:39.000Thank God, thank God the Egyptian military was able to take over Egypt, right?
00:45:45.000Or they would be like Libya right now, a failed nation, a failed state.
00:45:49.000We got Hillary Clinton in Benghazi running guns like they were here.
00:45:57.000Obama was across the southern border with Fast and Furious.
00:46:01.000I mean, all of the ridiculous stuff that those folks were doing is all coming to light.
00:46:07.000I mean, you know, people say Sessions ought to step down.
00:46:26.000Anyhow, a couple guys from the Freedom Caucus were asking for Sessions to step down.
00:46:31.000And, you know, you could say, well, you know, Sessions is, Sessions has got to be way, way past his eyeballs and alligators with all of the mess that he's got going on.
00:46:40.000And I think that this whole FBI, OIG shakeup and getting a second investigation going that's really going to dig into the stuff that Trump said he was going to do, lock her up.
00:46:54.000Go after all the felonies that the Obama administration committed.
00:47:00.000I was upset to see that we didn't go after Lois Lerner.
00:47:04.000I think she should be strung up from a bridge somewhere, honestly, for what she did to conservatives.
00:47:13.000You know, I mean, this shall not censor legislation that I put together protects conservatives.
00:47:18.000It also protects the liberals, the left, but it protects the conservatives.
00:47:23.000And what are we going to conserve if we don't have any conservatives' voices left to help conserve something?
00:47:56.000You know, you really start to see how everything is connected when you look at Iran, for example, which is, you know, the thing that people are advocating for would cost.
00:48:07.000You know, if you're talking about a ground invasion of Iran, you're talking about an additional $1 trillion.
00:48:11.000These are the same people that are telling us that a $20 billion wall is too much.
00:48:17.000I mean, these are the same people that are telling us it's better to have illegals here, which costs like twice as much as the wall would cost per year.
00:48:26.000And the arithmetic just doesn't add up.
00:48:28.000And then you look at Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, what's going on with the investigation.
00:48:52.000I mean, we talk about you a lot on this show and what you're out there doing.
00:48:57.000And I think what's important about what you're doing is you are on the frontier of this kind of a different strain, a more nationalist strain of right wing or conservative politics in the country.
00:49:09.000And you're really a pioneer out there.
00:49:11.000You're really testing the limits of how far we can take it.
00:49:14.000You're testing what works and what doesn't.
00:49:16.000And at the end of the day, to me, it matters that somebody's out there trying.
00:49:21.000It matters that somebody's out there doing it.
00:49:23.000They're writing the playbook as they go along.