America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - PENCE VS HARRIS VP DEBATE | America First Ep. 697

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00:37:02.000 I would say that I would have a.

00:37:18.000 I wouldn't go in to lose.

00:37:19.000 I've never gone into losing my life.

00:37:21.000 I don't know how your audience feels, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off.

00:37:27.000 There's the guy on the far right.

00:37:30.000 Tiffany.

00:37:30.000 Tiffany, thank you.

00:37:31.000 I've been doubted.

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00:37:34.000 Make it fast.

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00:53:08.000 I would say that I would have a hell of a chance of winning.

00:53:24.000 I wouldn't go in to lose.

00:53:25.000 I've never gone in to lose in my life.

00:53:27.000 I don't know how your audience feels, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off.

00:53:34.000 There's a dying fire

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01:00:36.000 You are watching America First.

01:00:37.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

01:00:39.000 We have a great show for you tonight.

01:00:42.000 I am very excited to be back with you here tonight as we prepare to begin the first vice presidential debate in the 2020 presidential election.

01:00:54.000 And we are supposed to start actually at 8 o'clock, but it looks like there might be a little bit of a delay or something.

01:01:01.000 I'm watching live right now NBC News coverage, and I think they're setting up.

01:01:07.000 The debate is being held in Miami.

01:01:09.000 And of course, tonight we are going to see Vice President Mike Pence debate Kamala Harris on the Democratic ticket.

01:01:18.000 And it's going to be interesting.

01:01:20.000 It's going to be an interesting debate.

01:01:22.000 Probably not as interesting, actually, though, as the debate that we saw last week.

01:01:28.000 Got to tell you, you know, I'm excited for this one.

01:01:31.000 I'm excited to see what will be discussed and what the outcome will be.

01:01:37.000 You could see there are some changes from the first.

01:01:40.000 Debate from the presidential debate.

01:01:41.000 They've got those plexiglass screens between the two candidates.

01:01:47.000 But I think we all know, and kind of the elephant in the room, is that the presidential debate is way more exciting, way more interesting, but it's going to be interesting nonetheless tonight, too, and of course, very significant.

01:02:00.000 The prevailing narrative that I've heard so far is that this is going to be the opportunity for Mike Pence to reassure voters if they were rattled.

01:02:11.000 By the president's performance last week.

01:02:14.000 And I don't know that that's totally wrong.

01:02:18.000 I think that that was basically how it went down in 2016 as well.

01:02:22.000 I think that the president had a very strong performance last week, although it was a little much.

01:02:27.000 It was over the top if you're one of these cucked, moderate, conservative types.

01:02:35.000 And I think that Mike Pence is a great compliment, a great compliment to the president's personality, temperament.

01:02:41.000 And probably we're going to see a debate with a little bit more substance.

01:02:44.000 Tonight, it's not going to be as abrasive.

01:02:47.000 But I'm going to turn on our volume here so you can hear what's going on.

01:02:53.000 And I think we should be starting here in a few minutes.

01:02:56.000 It's scheduled to start at 8 o'clock Central Time.

01:02:59.000 And it's 8.04, 8.05, so it should be coming out any minute.

01:03:07.000 And we'll see. 0.98

01:03:08.000 The moderator is a woman. 0.99

01:03:11.000 And as far as I know, she's not going to be extremely biased. 0.97

01:03:15.000 I know the The moderator for the third or the second presidential debate is supposed to be not great.

01:03:22.000 From the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, welcome to the first and only vice presidential debate of 2020, sponsored by the Nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates.

01:03:34.000 I'm Susan Page of USA Today.

01:03:36.000 It is my honor to moderate this debate, an important part of our democracy.

01:03:42.000 In Kingsbury Hall tonight, we have a small and socially distant audience, and we've taken extra precautions during this pandemic.

01:03:50.000 Among other things, everyone in the audience is required to wear a face mask and the candidates will be seated 12 feet apart.

01:03:58.000 The audience is enthusiastic about their candidates, but they've agreed to express that enthusiasm only twice at the end of the debate and now when I introduce the candidates.

01:04:10.000 Please welcome California Senator Kamala Harris and Vice President Mike Pence. 1.00

01:04:22.000 Let's go I hate her so much. 0.99

01:04:30.000 Thank you.

01:04:41.000 Senator Harris and Vice President Pence, thank you for being here.

01:04:45.000 We're meeting as President Trump and the First Lady continue to undergo treatment in Washington after testing positive for COVID 19.

01:04:53.000 We send our thoughts and prayers to them for their rapid and complete recovery and for the recovery of everyone afflicted by the coronavirus.

01:05:01.000 The two campaigns and the Commission on Presidential Debates have agreed to the ground rules for tonight.

01:05:06.000 I'm here to enforce them on behalf of the millions of Americans who are watching.

01:05:12.000 One note no one in either campaign or at the Commission or anywhere else has been told in advance what topics I'll raise or what questions I'll ask.

01:05:23.000 Yeah, we don't even know the topic.

01:05:24.000 The three minute debate will be divided into nine segments of about 10 minutes each.

01:05:28.000 I'll begin a segment by posing a question to each of you, sometimes the same question, sometimes a different question on the same topic.

01:05:36.000 You will then have two minutes to answer without interruption by me or the other candidate.

01:05:42.000 Then we'll take six minutes or so to discuss the issue.

01:05:45.000 At that point, although there will always be more to say, we'll move on to the next topic.

01:05:51.000 We want a debate that is lively, but Americans also deserve a discussion that is civil.

01:05:59.000 These are tumultuous times, but we can and will have a respectful exchange about the big issues facing our nation.

01:06:08.000 Let's begin with the ongoing pandemic that has cost our country so much.

01:06:11.000 We need to have a polite debate. 0.99

01:06:13.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:06:14.000 Senator Harris, the coronavirus is not under control. 0.98

01:06:18.000 Over the past week, Johns Hopkins reports that 39 states have had more COVID cases over the past seven days than in the week before.

01:06:27.000 Nine states have set new records.

01:06:30.000 Even if a vaccine is released soon, the next administration will face hard choices.

01:06:35.000 What would a Biden administration do in January and February?

01:06:39.000 That a Trump administration wouldn't do.

01:06:41.000 Would you impose new lockdowns for businesses and schools and hotspots, a federal mandate to wear masks?

01:06:48.000 You have two minutes to respond without interruption.

01:06:51.000 Thank you, Susan.

01:06:53.000 Well, the American people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country.

01:07:03.000 And here are the facts 210,000 dead people in our country in just the last several months.

01:07:10.000 Over 7 million people who have contracted this disease.

01:07:14.000 One in five businesses closed.

01:07:17.000 We're looking at frontline workers who have been treated like sacrificial workers.

01:07:24.000 We are looking at over 30 million people who, in the last several months, had to file for unemployment.

01:07:32.000 And here's the thing on January 28th, the vice president and the president were informed about the nature of this pandemic.

01:07:41.000 They were informed that it's lethal in consequence.

01:07:44.000 That it is airborne, that it will affect young people, and that it would be contracted because it is airborne.

01:07:55.000 And they knew what was happening and they didn't tell you.

01:08:00.000 Can you imagine if you knew on January 28th as opposed to March 13th what they knew, what you might have done to prepare?

01:08:08.000 They knew and they covered it up.

01:08:11.000 The president said it was a hoax, they minimized the seriousness of it.

01:08:15.000 The president said, You're on one side of his ledger if you wear a mask, you're on the other side of his ledger if you don't.

01:08:23.000 And in spite of all of that, today they still don't have a plan.

01:08:28.000 They still don't have a plan.

01:08:29.000 Well, Joe Biden does.

01:08:31.000 And our plan is about what we need to do around a national strategy for contact tracing, for testing, for administration of the vaccine, and making sure that it will be free for all.

01:08:42.000 That is the plan that Joe Biden has and that I have, knowing that we have to get a hold of what has been going on and we need to save our country.

01:08:51.000 And Joe Biden is the best leader to do that.

01:08:53.000 And frankly, this administration has forfeited their right to re election based on this.

01:08:58.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

01:09:00.000 Vice President Pence, more than 210,000 Americans have died of COVID 19 since February.

01:09:07.000 The U.S. death toll as a percentage of our population is higher than that of almost every other wealthy nation on earth.

01:09:14.000 For instance, our death rate is two and a half times that of Canada next door.

01:09:19.000 You head the administration's coronavirus task force.

01:09:23.000 Why is the U.S. death toll as a percentage of our population higher than that of almost every other wealthy country? 1.00

01:09:30.000 This is bullshit. 0.99

01:09:31.000 And you have two minutes to respond without interruption. 0.99

01:09:33.000 Susan, thank you.

01:09:34.000 And I want to thank the Commission and the University of Utah for hosting this event.

01:09:39.000 And Senator Harris, it's a privilege to be on the stage with you.

01:09:45.000 And our nation has gone through a very challenging time this year.

01:09:50.000 But I want the American people to know that from the very first day, President Donald Trump has put the health of America first.

01:09:58.000 Before there were more than five cases in the United States, all people who had returned from China, President Donald Trump did what no other American president had ever done, and that was he suspended all travel from China, the second largest economy in the world.

01:10:15.000 Now, Senator Joe Biden opposed that decision.

01:10:20.000 He said it was xenophobic and hysterical.

01:10:24.000 But I can tell you, having led the White House Coronavirus Task Force, that that decision alone by President Trump bought us invaluable time to stand up the greatest national mobilization since World War II.

01:10:35.000 And I believe it saved hundreds of thousands of American lives.

01:10:39.000 Because with that time, we were able to reinvent testing.

01:10:42.000 More than 115 million tests have been done to date.

01:10:45.000 We were able to see to the delivery of billions of supplies so our doctors and nurses had the resources and support they needed.

01:10:52.000 And we began really before the month of February was ours to develop a vaccine and to develop medicines and therapeutics that had been saving lives all along the way.

01:11:01.000 And under President Trump's leadership, Operation Warp Speed, we believe, will have.

01:11:05.000 Literally tens of millions of doses of a vaccine before the end of this year.

01:11:10.000 The reality is, when you look at the Biden plan, it reads an awful lot like what President Trump and I and our task force have been doing every step of the way.

01:11:18.000 I mean, quite frankly, when I look at their plan that talks about advancing testing, creating new PPE, developing a vaccine, it looks a little bit like plagiarism, which is something Joe Biden knows a little bit about.

01:11:33.000 Yeah!

01:11:34.000 The American people know that this is a president who has.

01:11:36.000 Put the health of America first, and the American people, I believe with my heart, can be proud of the sacrifices they have made.

01:11:44.000 APEC!

01:11:45.000 Thank you, Mr. President.

01:11:45.000 APEC!

01:11:47.000 Senator Harris, would you like to respond?

01:11:49.000 Absolutely.

01:11:50.000 Whatever the vice president is claiming the administration has done, clearly it hasn't worked.

01:11:55.000 When you're looking at over 210,000 dead bodies in our country, American lives that have been lost, families that are grieving that loss.

01:12:05.000 And you know, the vice president is the head of the task force.

01:12:10.000 And we knew on January 28th how serious this was.

01:12:14.000 And then, thanks to Bob Woodward, we learned that they knew about it.

01:12:19.000 And then, when that was exposed, the vice president said, when asked, Well, why didn't y'all tell anybody?

01:12:26.000 He said, Because the president wanted people to remain calm.

01:12:30.000 Well, let's give them a little bit of time.

01:12:32.000 But, Susan, this is important.

01:12:33.000 And I want to ask, Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

01:12:35.000 I have to weigh in.

01:12:37.000 You can have 15 more seconds, and then we'll give the vice president a chance to speak.

01:12:41.000 So, I want to ask, how calm were you when you were panicked about where you're going to get your next roll of toilet paper?

01:12:47.000 How calm were you when your kids were sent home from school and you didn't know when they could go back?

01:12:51.000 How calm were you?

01:12:53.000 Thank you, Mr. President.

01:12:54.000 When your children couldn't see your parents because you were afraid they could kill them.

01:12:58.000 Let's give Vice President Pence a chance to respond.

01:13:00.000 Vice President Pence, you have one minute to respond.

01:13:01.000 You know, there's not a day gone by that I haven't thought of every American family that's lost a loved one.

01:13:07.000 And I want all of you to know that you'll always be in our hearts and in our prayers.

01:13:12.000 But when you say what the American people have done over these last eight months hasn't worked, that's a great disservice for the sacrifices the American people have made.

01:13:23.000 I'm afraid.

01:13:23.000 The reality, if I may finish, Senator.

01:13:26.000 The reality is, Dr. Fauci said, Shut up, bitch. 1.00

01:13:29.000 Everything that he told the president in the Oval Office, the president told the American people. 1.00

01:13:34.000 Now, President Trump, I will tell you, has boundless confidence in the American people, and he always spoke with confidence that we'd get through this together.

01:13:40.000 But when you say it hasn't worked, when Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx and our medical experts came to us in the second week of March, they said if the president didn't take the unprecedented step of shutting down roughly half of the American economy, that we could lose 2.2 million Americans.

01:13:59.000 That's the reality.

01:14:00.000 Thank you.

01:14:00.000 They also said to us, if we did everything right, Susan, we could still lose more than 200,000 Americans.

01:14:06.000 Now, one life lost is too many, Susan.

01:14:09.000 But the American people, I believe, deserve credit for the sacrifices that they have made putting the health of their family and their neighbors first, our doctors, our nurses, our first responders.

01:14:19.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

01:14:20.000 And I'm going to speak up on behalf of what the American people have done.

01:14:23.000 Vice President Pence, you were in the front row in a Rose Garden event 11 days ago, what seems to have been a super spreader event for senior administration and congressional officials.

01:14:32.000 No social distancing.

01:14:34.000 Few masks, and now a cluster of coronavirus cases among those who were there.

01:14:39.000 How can you expect Americans to follow the administration's safety guidelines to protect themselves from COVID when you at the White House have not been doing so?

01:14:49.000 Well, the American people have demonstrated over the last eight months that when given the facts, they're willing to put the health of their families and their neighbors and people they don't even know first.

01:15:01.000 President Trump and I have great confidence in the American people.

01:15:06.000 And their ability to take that information and put it into practice.

01:15:11.000 In the height of the epidemic, when we were losing a heartbreaking number of 2,500 Americans a day, we surged resources to New Jersey and New York and New Orleans and Detroit.

01:15:23.000 We told the American people what needed to be done, and the American people made the sacrifices.

01:15:27.000 When the outbreak in the Sun Belt happened this summer, again, Americans stepped forward.

01:15:32.000 But the reality is the work of the President of the United States goes on.

01:15:37.000 A vacancy on the Supreme Court of the United States.

01:15:40.000 Has come upon us, and the president introduced Judge Amy Cole Barrett.

01:15:43.000 Thank you.

01:15:43.000 Thank you, Vice President.

01:15:45.000 If I may say, that Rose Garden event, there's been a great deal of speculation about it.

01:15:50.000 My wife Karen and I were there and honored to be there.

01:15:53.000 Many of the people who were at that event season actually were tested for coronavirus, and it was an outdoor event which all of our scientists regularly and routinely advise.

01:16:03.000 The difference here is President Trump and I trust the American people to make choices in the best interest of their health.

01:16:11.000 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris consistently talk about mandates, and not just mandates with the coronavirus, but a government takeover of health care, the Green New Deal, all government control.

01:16:24.000 We're about freedom and respecting the freedom of the American people.

01:16:26.000 Let's talk about respecting the American people.

01:16:29.000 You respect the American people when you tell them the truth, you respect the American people when you have the Courage to be a leader speaking of those things that you may not want people to hear but they need to hear so they can protect themselves.

01:16:42.000 But this administration stood on information that if you had as a parent, if you had as a worker, knowing you didn't have enough money saved up and now you're standing in a food line because of the ineptitude of an administration that was unwilling to speak the truth to the American people.

01:17:01.000 So let's talk about caring about the American people.

01:17:04.000 The American people have had to sacrifice far too much.

01:17:07.000 Because of the incompetence of this administration.

01:17:09.000 It is asking too much of the people.

01:17:12.000 It is asking too much of the people that they would not be equipped with the information they need to help themselves to protect their parents and their children.

01:17:22.000 Kamala Harris, it's Senator Harris, I mean, I'm sorry.

01:17:24.000 That's fine, I'm Kamala.

01:17:25.000 No, no, Senator Harris to me.

01:17:28.000 For life to get back to normal, Dr. Anthony Fauci and other experts say that most of the people who can be vaccinated need to be vaccinated.

01:17:36.000 But half of Americans now say they wouldn't take a vaccine if it was released now.

01:17:41.000 If the Trump administration approves a vaccine before or after the election, should Americans take it and would you take it?

01:17:49.000 If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it.

01:17:57.000 Absolutely.

01:17:58.000 But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I'm not taking it.

01:18:02.000 Vice President Pence, there have been a lot of repercussions from this pandemic.

01:18:06.000 In recent days, the president's diagnosis of COVID 19 has underscored the importance of the job that you hold and that you are seeking.

01:18:14.000 That's our second topic tonight.

01:18:16.000 It's the role of the vice president.

01:18:19.000 One of you will make history on January 20th.

01:18:22.000 You will be the vice president to the oldest president the United States has ever had.

01:18:27.000 Donald Trump will be 74 years old on Inauguration Day.

01:18:31.000 Joe Biden will be 78 years old.

01:18:33.000 That already has raised concerns among some voters, concerns that have been sharpened by President Trump's hospitalization in recent days.

01:18:43.000 Vice President Pence, have you had a conversation?

01:18:46.000 Or reached an agreement with President Trump about safeguards or procedures when it comes to the issue of presidential disability.

01:18:54.000 This is so rigged.

01:18:54.000 And it's not.

01:18:55.000 Are you kidding me?

01:18:56.000 You have two minutes without interruption.

01:18:58.000 Well, Susan, thank you.

01:19:00.000 Although I would like to go back.

01:19:01.000 I think we need to move on to the second presidency.

01:19:03.000 Well, thank you, but I would like to go back. 0.99

01:19:05.000 Shut up! 0.96

01:19:07.000 The reality is that we're going to have a vaccine, Senator, in record time, in unheard of time, in less than a year. 0.99

01:19:14.000 We have five companies in phase three clinical trials.

01:19:19.000 And we're right now producing tens of millions of doses.

01:19:23.000 So the fact that you continue to undermine public confidence in a vaccine, if the vaccine emerges during the Trump administration, I think is unconscionable.

01:19:34.000 And, Senator, I just ask you stop playing politics with people's lives.

01:19:40.000 The reality is that we will have a vaccine, we believe, before the end of this year.

01:19:45.000 And it will have the capacity to save countless American lives.

01:19:50.000 And your continuous undermining.

01:19:53.000 Of confidence in a vaccine is just unacceptable.

01:19:57.000 And let me also say, you know, the reality is when you talk about failure in this administration, we actually do know what failure looks like in a pandemic.

01:20:08.000 It was 2009.

01:20:10.000 The swine flu arrived in the United States.

01:20:13.000 Thankfully, it ended up not being as lethal as the coronavirus.

01:20:19.000 But before the end of the year, when Joe Biden was vice president of the United States, not 7.5 million people contracted the swine flu, 60 million Americans contracted the swine flu.

01:20:32.000 If the swine flu had been as lethal as the coronavirus in 2009, when Joe Biden was vice president, we would have lost two million American lives.

01:20:41.000 His own chief of staff, Ron Klein, would say last year that it was pure luck that they did, quote, everything possible wrong.

01:20:51.000 And we learned from that.

01:20:54.000 They left the strategic national stockpile empty, they left an empty and hollow plan, but we still learned from it.

01:21:01.000 And I think the American people, I'm going to see again, can be proud of what we have done.

01:21:06.000 And, Senator, please stop undermining confidence in a vaccine.

01:21:10.000 Senator, let me ask you the same question that I asked.

01:21:12.000 That was perfect.

01:21:14.000 That was perfect.

01:21:15.000 Have you had a conversation or reached an agreement with Vice President Biden about safeguards or procedures when it comes to the issue of presidential disability?

01:21:25.000 And if not, and if you win the election next month, do you think you should?

01:21:30.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

01:21:32.000 So, let me tell you first of all, the day I got the call from Joe Biden, it was actually a Zoom call.

01:21:39.000 Asking me to serve with him on this ticket was probably one of the most memorable days of my life.

01:21:47.000 I thought about my mother, who came to the United States at the age of 19, gave birth to me at the age of 25 at Kaiser Hospital in Oakland, California.

01:21:59.000 And the thought that I'd be sitting here right now, I know, would make her proud, and she must be looking down on this.

01:22:08.000 You know, Joe and I were raised in a very similar way.

01:22:11.000 We were raised with values that are about hard work, about the value and the dignity of public service, and about the importance of fighting for the dignity of all people.

01:22:22.000 And I think Joe asked me to serve with him because, you know, I have a career that included being elected the first woman district attorney of San Francisco, where I created models of innovation for law enforcement in terms of reform of the criminal justice system.

01:22:37.000 I was elected the first woman of color.

01:22:41.000 And black women were elected Attorney General of the state of California, where I ran the second largest Department of Justice in the United States, second only to the United States Department of Justice.

01:22:51.000 And there I took on everything from transnational criminal organizations to the big banks that were taking advantage of homeowners to for profit colleges that were taking advantage of veterans.

01:23:01.000 And then, of course, now I serve in the United States Senate as only the second black woman ever elected to the United States Senate.

01:23:07.000 I serve on the Senate Intelligence Committee, where I've been in regular receipt of classified information about.

01:23:13.000 Threats to our nation and hot spots around the world.

01:23:15.000 I've traveled the world.

01:23:16.000 I've met with our soldiers in war zones.

01:23:20.000 And I think Joe has asked me to serve with him because he knows that we share a purpose, which is about lifting up the American people.

01:23:30.000 And after the four years that we have seen of Donald Trump unifying our country around our common values and principles.

01:23:36.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

01:23:38.000 You know, neither President Trump nor Vice President Biden has released a sort of detailed health information.

01:23:44.000 That had become the modern norm until the 2016 election.

01:23:47.000 And in recent days, President Trump's doctors have given misleading answers or refused to answer basic questions about his health.

01:23:54.000 And my question to each of you in turn is Is this information voters deserve to know?

01:24:01.000 Vice President Pence, would you like to go first?

01:24:04.000 Well, Susan, thank you.

01:24:06.000 And let me say, on behalf of the President and the First Lady, how moved we've all been by the outpouring of prayers and concern for the President.

01:24:21.000 And I do believe it's emblematic of the prayers and the concern that have ushered forth for every American impacted.

01:24:27.000 By the coronavirus.

01:24:29.000 But the care the president received at Walter Reed Hospital, the White House doctors, was exceptional.

01:24:35.000 And the transparency that they practiced all along the way will continue.

01:24:40.000 The American people have a right to know about the health and well being of their president, and we'll continue to do that.

01:24:47.000 But I'm just extremely grateful and was more than a little moved by the broad and bipartisan support.

01:24:55.000 And Senator, I want to thank you and Joe Biden for your expressions of genuine concern.

01:25:00.000 And I also want to congratulate you.

01:25:02.000 As I did on that phone call on the historic nature of your nomination.

01:25:07.000 Thank you. 1.00

01:25:09.000 What a bitch. 1.00

01:25:09.000 I never expected to be on the stage four years ago, so I know the feeling. 1.00

01:25:14.000 But the reality is, we've got an election before the American people in the midst of this challenging year, and the stakes have never been higher.

01:25:23.000 But I think the choice has never been made.

01:25:25.000 I want to give Senator Harris a chance to respond to the same question I asked, which is do voters have a right to know more detailed health information about presidential candidates and especially about presidents?

01:25:37.000 Especially when they're facing some kind of challenge.

01:25:39.000 Absolutely.

01:25:40.000 And that's why Joe Biden has been so incredibly transparent.

01:25:43.000 And certainly, by contrast, the president has not, both in terms of health records, but also let's look at taxes.

01:25:51.000 We now know, because of great investigative journalism, that Donald Trump paid $750 in taxes.

01:25:59.000 When I first heard about it, I literally said, You mean $750,000?

01:26:05.000 And it was like, No, $750.

01:26:08.000 We now know Donald Trump owes.

01:26:11.000 And is in debt for $400 million.

01:26:15.000 And just so everyone is clear, when we say in debt, it means you owe money to somebody.

01:26:20.000 And it'd be really good to know who the President of the United States, the Commander in Chief, owes money to because the American people have a right to know what is influencing the President's decisions.

01:26:33.000 And is he making those decisions on the best interest of the American people?

01:26:37.000 They have no idea what that means.

01:26:38.000 Or self interest.

01:26:40.000 So, Susan, I'm glad you asked about transparency.

01:26:42.000 Because it has to be across the board.

01:26:44.000 Joe has been incredibly transparent over many, many years.

01:26:49.000 The one thing we all know about Joe, he puts it all out there.

01:26:53.000 He is honest, he is forthright.

01:26:57.000 But Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been about covering up everything.

01:27:00.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

01:27:01.000 I want to give you a chance to respond, Vice President.

01:27:03.000 Well, look, I respect the fact that Joe Biden spent 47 years in public life.

01:27:08.000 I respect your public service as well.

01:27:11.000 The American people, the president, was a businessman.

01:27:11.000 Thank you.

01:27:15.000 It's a job creator who's paid tens of millions of dollars in taxes, payroll taxes, property taxes.

01:27:24.000 He's created tens of thousands of American jobs.

01:27:27.000 And the president said those public reports are not accurate.

01:27:31.000 And the president's also released literally stacks of financial disclosures the American people can review, just as the law allows.

01:27:39.000 But the distinction here is that Joe Biden, 47 years in public service, compared to President Donald Trump, who brought all of that experience four years ago.

01:27:49.000 Thank you, Brett.

01:27:49.000 Thank you very much.

01:27:50.000 And turned this economy around by cutting taxes, rolling back regulation.

01:27:53.000 Thank you, Vice President.

01:27:55.000 Are you kidding me?

01:27:56.000 Thank you, Vice President.

01:27:59.000 This is so rigged.

01:28:00.000 She got like three minutes.

01:28:01.000 That's a good segue into our third topic, which is about the economy.

01:28:06.000 This has been another aspect of life for Americans that's been so affected by this coronavirus.

01:28:06.000 What a job.

01:28:12.000 We have a jobs crisis brewing.

01:28:15.000 On Friday, we learned that the unemployment rate had declined to 7.9% in September, but that job growth had stalled.

01:28:21.000 And that was before the latest round of layoffs and furloughs in the airline industry at Disney and elsewhere.

01:28:27.000 Hundreds of thousands of discouraged workers have stopped looking for work.

01:28:31.000 Nearly 11 million jobs that existed at the beginning of the year haven't been replaced.

01:28:36.000 Those hardest hit include Latinos, blacks, and women.

01:28:41.000 Senator Harris, the Biden Harris campaign has proposed new programs to boost the economy, and you would pay for that new spending by raising $4 trillion in taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations.

01:28:54.000 Some economists warn that could curb entrepreneurial ventures that fuel growth and create jobs.

01:29:00.000 Would raising taxes put the recovery at risk?

01:29:04.000 And you have two minutes to answer uninterrupted.

01:29:06.000 Thank you.

01:29:08.000 On the issue of the economy, I think there couldn't be a more fundamental difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

01:29:16.000 Joe Biden believes you measure the health and the strength of America's economy based on the health and the strength of the American worker and the American family.

01:29:27.000 On the other hand, you have Donald Trump who measures the strength of the economy based on how rich people are doing.

01:29:33.000 Which is why he passed a tax bill benefiting the top 1% and the biggest corporations of America, leading to a $2 trillion deficit that the American people are going to have to pay for.

01:29:47.000 On day one, Joe Biden will repeal that tax bill.

01:29:50.000 He'll get rid of it.

01:29:52.000 And what he'll do with the money is invest it in the American people.

01:29:56.000 And through a plan that is about investing in infrastructure, something that Donald Trump said he would do, I remember hearing about some infrastructure week, I don't think it ever happened.

01:30:04.000 But Joe Biden will do that.

01:30:05.000 He'll invest in infrastructure.

01:30:06.000 It's about upgrading our roads and bridges, but also investing in clean energy and renewable energy.

01:30:12.000 Joe is going to invest that money in what we need to do around innovation.

01:30:16.000 There was a time when our country believed in science and invested in research and development so that we were an innovation leader on the globe.

01:30:27.000 Joe Biden will use that money to invest in education.

01:30:30.000 So, for example, for folks who want to go to a two year community college, it will be free.

01:30:35.000 If you come from a family that makes less than $125,000, you'll go to a public university for free.

01:30:42.000 And across the board, we'll make sure that if you have student loan debt, it's cut by $10,000.

01:30:48.000 That's how Joe Biden thinks about the economy, which is it's about investing in the people of our country, as opposed to passing a tax bill, which had the benefit of letting American corporations go offshore to do their business.

01:31:02.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

01:31:04.000 Vice President Pence, your administration has been predicting a rapid and robust recovery.

01:31:09.000 But the latest economic report suggests that's not happening.

01:31:12.000 Should Americans be braced for an economic comeback that is going to take not months, but a year or more?

01:31:18.000 You have two minutes to answer uninterrupted.

01:31:21.000 When President Trump and I took office, America had gone through the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression.

01:31:28.000 It's when Joe Biden was vice president, they tried to tax and spend and regulate and bail our way back to a growing economy.

01:31:34.000 President Trump cut taxes across the board.

01:31:37.000 Despite what Senator Harris says, The average American family of four had $2,000 in savings and taxes.

01:31:45.000 And with the rise in wages that occurred, most predominantly for blue collar, hardworking Americans, the average household income for a family of four increased by $4,000 following President Trump's tax cuts.

01:31:58.000 But America, you just heard Senator Harris tell you on day one, Joe Biden's going to raise your taxes.

01:32:05.000 It's really remarkable to think, Susan.

01:32:07.000 I mean, right after a time where we're going through a pandemic that lost 22 million jobs at the height, we've already added back 11.6 million jobs.

01:32:17.000 Because we had a president who cut taxes, rolled back regulation, unleashed American energy, fought for free and fair trade, and secured $4 trillion from the Congress of the United States to give direct payments to families, save 50 million jobs through the Paycheck Protection Program.

01:32:34.000 We literally have spared no expense to help the American people and the American worker through this.

01:32:38.000 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want to raise taxes.

01:32:42.000 They want to bury our economy under a $2 trillion Green New Deal, which you were one of the original co sponsors of in the United States Senate.

01:32:50.000 They want to abolish fossil fuels.

01:32:53.000 And banned fracking, which would cost hundreds of thousands of American jobs all across the heartland.

01:32:59.000 And Joe Biden wants to go back to the economic surrender to China that when we took office, half of our international trade deficit was with China alone.

01:33:08.000 And Joe Biden wants to repeal all of the tariffs that President Trump put into effect to fight for American jobs and American workers.

01:33:15.000 Joe Biden says democracy is on the ballot.

01:33:17.000 Make no mistake about it, Susan.

01:33:20.000 The American economy, the American comeback is on the ballot.

01:33:24.000 With four more years of growth and opportunity, four more years of President Donald Trump, 2021 is the biggest economic year in the history of this country.

01:33:32.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

01:33:34.000 Senator Harris?

01:33:35.000 Well, I mean, we saw enough of it in last week's debate, but I think this is supposed to be a debate based on fact and truth.

01:33:41.000 And the truth and the fact is, Joe Biden has been very clear.

01:33:44.000 He will not raise taxes on anybody who makes less than $400,000 a year.

01:33:48.000 And he will repeal the Trump tax cuts.

01:33:49.000 Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

01:33:52.000 I'm speaking.

01:33:53.000 It would be important if you said the truth.

01:33:56.000 Joe Biden said twice in the debate that he's going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.

01:34:01.000 That was tax cuts that gave the average working family $2,000 in a tax bracket. 1.00

01:34:07.000 Laugh it up, bitch. 1.00

01:34:08.000 Senator, that is absolutely not true. 1.00

01:34:12.000 Is he only going to repeal part of the Trump tax cuts?

01:34:15.000 If you don't mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation, okay?

01:34:19.000 Please.

01:34:19.000 Okay.

01:34:21.000 Shut down. 0.69

01:34:22.000 Shut down.

01:34:23.000 On anyone who makes less than $400,000 a year.

01:34:25.000 He has been very clear about that.

01:34:26.000 I have been.

01:34:27.000 Joe Biden will not end fracking.

01:34:29.000 He has been very clear about that.

01:34:32.000 Joe Biden is the one who, during the Great Recession, was responsible for the Recovery Act that brought America back.

01:34:42.000 And now the Trump Pence administration wants to take credit when they rode the coattails of Joe Biden's success for the economy that they had at the beginning of their term.

01:34:54.000 Of course, now the economy is a complete disaster.

01:34:57.000 But Joe Biden, on the one hand, did that.

01:35:00.000 On the other hand, you have Donald Trump, who has reigned over a recession that is being compared to the Great Depression.

01:35:08.000 On the one hand, you have Joe Biden, who was responsible with President Barack Obama for the Affordable Care Act, which brought health care to over 20 million Americans and protected people with pre existing conditions.

01:35:21.000 And what it also did is it saved those families who otherwise were going bankrupt because of hospital bills they could not afford.

01:35:29.000 On the other hand, You have Donald Trump, who's in court right now, trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

01:35:36.000 She can just go on and on and on if you have pre existing conditions.

01:35:41.000 And I just, this is very important, Susan.

01:35:43.000 And it's important.

01:35:43.000 Yes.

01:35:44.000 We need to get Vice President.

01:35:45.000 I'd just like to, he interrupted me, and I'd like to just finish, please.

01:35:50.000 If you have a pre existing condition, heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, they're coming for you.

01:35:57.000 If you love someone who has a pre existing condition, they're coming for you.

01:36:02.000 If you are under the age of 26 on your parents' coverage, they're coming for you.

01:36:06.000 Senator Harris, thank you.

01:36:07.000 Let me give you a chance to respond.

01:36:09.000 Well, I hope we have a chance to talk about health care because Obamacare was a disaster, and the American people remember it well.

01:36:15.000 And President Trump and I have a plan to improve health care and protect preexisting conditions for every American.

01:36:24.000 But look, Senator Harris, you're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

01:36:30.000 You yourself said on multiple occasions when you were running for president that you would ban fracking.

01:36:36.000 Joe Biden looked at a supporter in the eye and pointed and said, I guarantee, I guarantee that we will abolish fossil fuels.

01:36:45.000 They have a $2 trillion version of the Green New Deal, Susan, that your newspaper, USA Today, said really wasn't that very different from the original Green New Deal.

01:36:55.000 More taxes, more regulation, banning fracking, abolishing fossil fuel, crushing American energy, and economic surrender to China is a prescription for economic decline.

01:37:08.000 President Trump and I will keep America growing.

01:37:11.000 The V-shaped recovery that's underway right now will continue with four more years of President Donald Trump.

01:37:17.000 Thank you very much, Vice President Pence.

01:37:19.000 Once again, you provided the briefing.

01:37:21.000 So she gets the briefing.

01:37:22.000 Which is climate change.

01:37:24.000 And Vice President Pence, I'd like to pose the first question.

01:37:26.000 But he's doing really well.

01:37:27.000 He is doing phenomenal.

01:37:28.000 This year, we've seen record setting hurricanes in the South.

01:37:32.000 Another one, Hurricane Delta, is now threatening the Gulf.

01:37:35.000 And we have seen record setting wildfires in the West.

01:37:38.000 Do you believe, as the scientific community has concluded, that man made climate change has made wildfires bigger, hotter, and more deadly, and have made hurricanes wetter, slower, And more damaging.

01:37:52.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

01:37:55.000 Thank you, Susan.

01:37:56.000 Well, first, I'm very proud of our record on the environment and on conservation.

01:38:01.000 According to all of the best estimates, our air and land are cleaner than any time ever recorded, and our water is among the cleanest in the world.

01:38:10.000 And just a little while ago, the president signed the Outdoors Act.

01:38:13.000 It's the largest investment in our public lands and public parks in 100 years.

01:38:19.000 So, President Trump has made a commitment to conservation and to the environment.

01:38:23.000 Now, with regard to climate change, the climate is changing.

01:38:28.000 But the issue is, what's the cause and what do we do about it?

01:38:32.000 President Trump has made it clear that we're going to continue to listen to the science.

01:38:36.000 Now, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris would put us back in the Paris Climate Accord.

01:38:41.000 They'd impose the Green New Deal, which would crush American energy, would increase the energy costs of American families in their homes, and literally would crush American jobs.

01:38:53.000 And President Trump and I believe that The progress that we have made in a cleaner environment has been happening precisely because we have a strong free market economy.

01:39:04.000 You know, what's remarkable is the United States has reduced CO2 more than the countries that are still in the Paris Climate Accord, but we've done it through innovation. 0.98

01:39:15.000 Shit. 0.95

01:39:16.000 And we've done it through natural gas and fracking, which, Senator, the American people can go look at the record. 1.00

01:39:23.000 I know Joe Biden says otherwise now, as you do.

01:39:27.000 But the both of you repeatedly committed to abolishing fossil fuel and banning fracking.

01:39:33.000 And so by creating the kind of American innovation, we're actually steering toward a stronger and better environment.

01:39:40.000 With regard to wildfires, President Trump and I believe that forest management has to be front and center.

01:39:45.000 And even Governor Gavin Newsom from your state has agreed we've got to work on forest management.

01:39:51.000 And with regard to hurricanes, the National Oceanic Administration tells us that actually as difficult as they are, there are no more hurricanes today than there were 100 years ago.

01:40:03.000 Thank you.

01:40:03.000 But many of the climate alarmists use hurricanes and wildfires to try and sell their bill of goods of a Green New Deal.

01:40:11.000 And President Trump and I are going to always put American jobs and American workers first.

01:40:16.000 Senator Harris, as the Vice President mentioned, you co sponsored the Green New Deal in Congress.

01:40:21.000 But Vice President Biden said in last week's debate that he does not support the Green New Deal.

01:40:26.000 But if you look at the Biden-Harris campaign website, it describes the Green New Deal as a crucial framework.

01:40:33.000 What exactly would be the stance of a Biden Harris administration toward the Green New Deal?

01:40:39.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

01:40:41.000 Sure.

01:40:41.000 So, first of all, I will repeat, and the American people know, that Joe Biden will not ban fracking.

01:40:49.000 That is a fact.

01:40:51.000 That is a fact.

01:40:53.000 I will repeat that Joe Biden has been very clear that he thinks about growing jobs, which is why he will not increase taxes for anyone who makes less than $400,000 a year.

01:41:07.000 Joe Biden's economic plan, Moody's, which is a reputable Wall Street firm, has said will create 7 million more jobs than Donald Trump's.

01:41:18.000 And part of those jobs that will be created by Joe Biden are going to be about clean energy and renewable energy.

01:41:25.000 Because you see, Joe understands that the west coast of our country is burning, including my home state of California.

01:41:34.000 Joe sees what is happening on the Gulf states, which are being battered by storms.

01:41:39.000 Joe has seen and talked with the farmers in Iowa whose entire crops have been destroyed because of floods.

01:41:46.000 And so Joe believes, again, in science.

01:41:49.000 I'll tell you something, Susan.

01:41:50.000 I served when I first got to the Senate on the committee that's responsible for the environment.

01:41:54.000 Do you know this administration took the word science off the website and then took the phrase climate change off the website?

01:42:04.000 We have seen a pattern with this administration, which is they don't believe in science.

01:42:08.000 And Joe's plan is about saying we're going to deal with it, but we're also going to create jobs.

01:42:13.000 Donald Trump, when asked about the wildfires in California, and the question was, you know, the science is telling us this.

01:42:19.000 You know what Donald Trump said?

01:42:20.000 Science doesn't know.

01:42:22.000 He did say that.

01:42:24.000 Let's talk about who is prepared to lead our country over the course of the next four years on what is an existential threat to us as human beings.

01:42:33.000 Joe is about saying we're going to invest that in renewable energy, it's going to be about the creation of millions of jobs.

01:42:39.000 We will achieve net zero emissions by 2050, carbon neutral by 2035.

01:42:45.000 Joe has a plan.

01:42:47.000 This has been a lot of talk from the Trump administration, and really it has been to go backward instead of forward.

01:42:52.000 We will also re enter the climate agreement with pride.

01:42:56.000 Senator Harris just said that climate change is an existential threat.

01:43:00.000 Vice President Pence, do you believe that climate change poses an existential threat?

01:43:06.000 As I said, Susan, the climate is changing.

01:43:09.000 We'll follow the science.

01:43:10.000 But once again, Senator Harris is denying the fact that they're going to raise taxes.

01:43:19.000 On every American.

01:43:19.000 Joe Biden said twice in the debate last week that on day one he was going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.

01:43:26.000 He's got to push the green button.

01:43:28.000 Delivered $2,000 in tax relief to the average family of four across America.

01:43:33.000 And with regard to banning fracking, I just recommend that people look at the record.

01:43:37.000 You yourself said repeatedly that you would ban fracking.

01:43:40.000 You were the first Senate co sponsor of the Green New Deal.

01:43:44.000 And while Joe Biden denied the Green New Deal, Susan, thank you for pointing out the Green New Deal is on their campaign website.

01:43:51.000 And as USA Today said, it's essentially the same plan as you co sponsored with AOC when she submitted it in the Senate.

01:43:59.000 And you just heard the senator say that she's going to resubmit America to the Paris Climate Accord.

01:44:04.000 Look, the American people have always cherished our environment.

01:44:09.000 We'll continue to cherish it.

01:44:10.000 We've made great progress reducing CO2 emissions through American innovation and the development of natural gas through fracking.

01:44:18.000 We don't need a massive $2 trillion Green New Deal that would impose all new mandates on American businesses and American families.

01:44:27.000 Thank you.

01:44:27.000 Joe Biden wants us to retrofit 4 million of our existing business buildings.

01:44:32.000 It makes no sense.

01:44:33.000 It will cost jobs.

01:44:35.000 President Trump is going to put America first, he's going to put jobs first, and we're going to take care of our environment and follow the science.

01:44:42.000 Thank you, President.

01:44:43.000 On the issue of jobs, Senator Harris.

01:44:44.000 Let's talk about that.

01:44:46.000 The Vice President earlier referred to, as part of what he thinks is an accomplishment, the President's trade war with China.

01:44:56.000 You lost that trade war, you lost it.

01:44:59.000 What ended up happening is because of a so called trade war with China, America lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs.

01:45:09.000 Farmers have experienced bankruptcy because of it.

01:45:13.000 We are in a manufacturing recession because of it.

01:45:18.000 And when we look at where this administration has been, there are estimates that by the end of the term of this administration, they will have lost more jobs than almost any other presidential administration.

01:45:32.000 And the American people know what I'm talking about.

01:45:35.000 You know.

01:45:37.000 I think about 20 year olds.

01:45:38.000 You know, we have a 20 year old, a 20 something year old, who are coming out of high school and college right now.

01:45:44.000 And you're wondering, is there going to be a job there for me?

01:45:48.000 We're looking at people who are trying to figure out how they're going to pay rent by the end of the month.

01:45:54.000 Almost half of American renters are worried about whether they're going to be able to pay rent by the end of the month.

01:46:00.000 This is where the economy is in America right now.

01:46:04.000 And it is because of the catastrophe.

01:46:07.000 And the failure of leadership of this administration.

01:46:10.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

01:46:12.000 Vice President Pence, let me give you just 15 seconds to respond because then I want to move on.

01:46:15.000 Well, I'd love to respond.

01:46:17.000 Look, lost the trade war with China.

01:46:21.000 Joe Biden never fought it.

01:46:23.000 Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for communist China through over the last several decades.

01:46:28.000 And again, Senator Harris, you're entitled to your opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts.

01:46:33.000 When Joe Biden was vice president, we lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs.

01:46:38.000 And President Obama said they were never coming back.

01:46:40.000 He said we needed a magic wand to bring them back.

01:46:43.000 In our first three years, after we cut taxes, roll back regulation, unleashed American energy, this administration saw 500,000 manufacturing jobs created.

01:46:53.000 And that's exactly the kind of growth we're going to continue to see as we bring our nation through this pandemic.

01:46:58.000 The Green New Deal, your massive new mandates, your Paris Climate Accord.

01:47:02.000 It's going to kill jobs this time, just like it killed jobs.

01:47:06.000 I just need to respond very briefly.

01:47:07.000 15 seconds and move on.

01:47:09.000 Are you kidding me?

01:47:11.000 Joe Biden is responsible for saving America's auto industry, and you voted against it.

01:47:17.000 So let's set the record straight.

01:47:19.000 Thank you.

01:47:20.000 I'd like to talk about China.

01:47:22.000 We have as our next topic.

01:47:25.000 We have no more complicated or consequential foreign relationship than the one with China.

01:47:31.000 It is a huge market for American agricultural goods.

01:47:34.000 It's a potential partner in dealing with climate change in North Korea.

01:47:38.000 And in a video tonight, President Trump again blamed it for the coronavirus, saying China will pay.

01:47:45.000 Vice President Pence, how would you describe our fundamental relationship with China?

01:47:50.000 Competitors, adversaries, enemies?

01:47:53.000 You have two minutes.

01:47:55.000 Thank you, Susan.

01:47:57.000 Well, let me, before I leave that, let me speak to voting records if I can.

01:48:03.000 Everybody knows that NAFTA caused literally thousands of American factories to close.

01:48:09.000 They saw automotive jobs go south of the border.

01:48:11.000 President Trump fought to renegotiate NAFTA.

01:48:15.000 And the United States Mexico Canada agreement is now the law of the land.

01:48:19.000 American people deserve to know Senator Kamala Harris was one of only 10 members of the Senate to vote against the USMCA.

01:48:27.000 It was a huge win for American autoworkers.

01:48:30.000 It was a huge win for American farmers, especially dairy in the upper Midwest.

01:48:35.000 But, Senator, you said it didn't go far enough on climate change that you put your radical environmental agenda ahead of American autoworkers and ahead of American jobs.

01:48:48.000 The American people deserve to know that.

01:48:49.000 It's probably why Newsweek magazine said that Kamala Harris was the most liberal member of the United States Senate in 2019, more liberal than Bernie Sanders.

01:49:00.000 More liberal than any of the others in the United States Senate.

01:49:03.000 So now, with regard to China.

01:49:06.000 He is such a king.

01:49:07.000 Susan, first and foremost.

01:49:08.000 Look at her. 1.00

01:49:08.000 Yeah, eat shit. 1.00

01:49:10.000 You're losing. 1.00

01:49:10.000 China is to blame for the coronavirus. 1.00

01:49:14.000 And President Trump is not happy about it.

01:49:17.000 He's made that very clear, made it clear again today.

01:49:20.000 China and the World Health Organization did not play straight with the American people.

01:49:24.000 They did not let our personnel into China to get information on the coronavirus until the middle of February.

01:49:31.000 Fortunately, President Trump, in dealing with China from the outset of this administration, standing up to China that had been taking advantage of America for decades in the wake of Joe Biden's cheerleading for China, made that decision before the end of January to suspend all travel from China. 0.70

01:49:48.000 And again, the American people deserve to know Joe Biden opposed President Trump's decision to suspend all travel from China. 0.56

01:49:56.000 He said it was hysterical, he said it was xenophobic.

01:49:59.000 Thank you, Mr. President.

01:50:02.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence. 0.96

01:50:04.000 We want to improve the relationship, but we're going to level the playing field and we're going to hold China accountable for what they did to America with the coronavirus. 0.97

01:50:11.000 Thank you. 0.96

01:50:12.000 Senator Harris, let me ask you the same question that I asked the Vice President.

01:50:16.000 How would you describe our fundamental relationship with China?

01:50:20.000 Are we competitors, adversaries, enemies?

01:50:24.000 You'll have two minutes uninterrupted.

01:50:27.000 Susan, the Trump administration's Perspective and approach to China has resulted in the loss of American lives, American jobs, and America's standing.

01:50:43.000 There's a weird obsession that President Trump has had with getting rid of whatever accomplishment was achieved by President Obama and Vice President Biden.

01:50:55.000 For example, they created within the White House an office that basically was responsible for monitoring pandemics.

01:50:55.000 Which is hilarious.

01:51:04.000 They got away, they got rid of it.

01:51:06.000 It's not true.

01:51:07.000 There was a team of disease experts that President Obama and Vice President Biden dispatched to China to monitor what is now predictable and what might happen.

01:51:21.000 They pulled them out.

01:51:23.000 We now are looking at 210,000 Americans who have lost their lives.

01:51:31.000 Let's look at the job situation.

01:51:34.000 We mentioned before the trade deal, the trade war, they wanted to call it with China.

01:51:40.000 It resulted in the loss of over 300 manufacturing jobs and a manufacturing recession.

01:51:46.000 And the American consumer paying thousands of dollars more for goods because of that failed war that they called it.

01:51:46.000 300.

01:51:55.000 Then let's talk about standing.

01:51:56.000 Pew, a reputable research firm, has done an analysis that shows that leaders of all of our formerly allied countries have now decided that they hold in greater esteem and respect Xi Jinping.

01:52:14.000 The head of the Chinese Communist Party, and they do Donald Trump, the president of the United States, the commander in chief of the United States.

01:52:22.000 This is where we are today because of a failure of leadership by this administration.

01:52:30.000 Senator Harris, we've seen changes in the role of the United States in terms of global leadership over the past four years.

01:52:38.000 And of course, times do change.

01:52:40.000 What's your definition?

01:52:42.000 We've seen strains with China, of course.

01:52:44.000 As the vice president mentioned, we've seen strains with our traditional allies in NATO and elsewhere.

01:52:50.000 What is your definition of the role of American leadership in 2020?

01:52:56.000 So, you know, Joe is.

01:52:58.000 I love talking with Joe about a lot of these issues.

01:53:01.000 And, you know, Joe, I think he said it quite well.

01:53:03.000 He says, you know, foreign policy, it might sound complicated, but really it's relationships.

01:53:08.000 Just think about it as relationships.

01:53:10.000 And so we know this in our personal and professional relationships.

01:53:14.000 You've got to keep your word to your friends.

01:53:16.000 You've got to be loyal to your friends.

01:53:18.000 People who have stood with you, you've got to stand with them.

01:53:21.000 You've got to know who your adversaries are.

01:53:23.000 He's so low, I can't.

01:53:23.000 And keep them in check.

01:53:26.000 But what we have seen with Donald Trump is that he has betrayed our friends and embraced the enemies around the world.

01:53:38.000 Let's take, for example, Russia.

01:53:41.000 So, Russia, I serve on the Intelligence Committee of the United States Senate.

01:53:47.000 America's intelligence community told us Russia interfered in the election of the President of the United States in 2016 and is playing in 2020.

01:53:56.000 Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, said the same.

01:54:00.000 But Donald Trump, the commander in chief of the United States of America, prefers to take the word of Vladimir Putin over the word of the American intelligence community.

01:54:10.000 You look at our friends at NATO, he has walked away from agreements.

01:54:15.000 You can look at the Iran nuclear deal, which now has put us in a position. 0.88

01:54:21.000 Where we are less safe because they are building up what might end up being a significant nuclear arsenal. 0.92

01:54:29.000 We were in that deal, guys.

01:54:30.000 We were in the Iran nuclear deal with friends, with allies around the country.

01:54:34.000 And because of Donald Trump's unilateral approach to foreign policy, coupled with his isolationism, he pulled us out.

01:54:43.000 Okay, how long?

01:54:44.000 How long does she get? 0.99

01:54:45.000 She gets five minutes? 1.00

01:54:45.000 We have our relationships. 1.00

01:54:47.000 And the thing that has always been part of the strength of our nation, in addition to our great military, Has been that we keep our word.

01:54:54.000 But Donald Trump doesn't understand that because he doesn't understand what it means to be honest.

01:55:00.000 Thank you.

01:55:01.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

01:55:03.000 Vice President Pins, let me give you a chance to respond.

01:55:05.000 Well, thank you.

01:55:06.000 Well, President Trump kept his word when we moved the American Embassy to Jerusalem, the capital of the state of Israel.

01:55:13.000 When Joe Biden was vice president, they promised to do that, and they never did.

01:55:17.000 We stood strong with our allies, but we've been demanding.

01:55:20.000 NATO is now contributing more to our common defense than ever before, thanks to President Trump's leadership.

01:55:20.000 Relevant, relevant.

01:55:27.000 We've strengthened our alliances across the Asia Pacific, and we've stood strong against those who would do us harm.

01:55:35.000 You know, when President Trump came into office, ISIS had captured an area of the Middle East the size of Pennsylvania.

01:55:44.000 But President Trump unleashed the American military, and our armed forces destroyed the ISIS caliphate and took down their leader, al-Baghdadi, without one American casualty.

01:55:55.000 Al-Baghdadi was responsible for the death of thousands.

01:56:02.000 But notably, America's hearts today are with the family of Kayla Mueller, her parents, which are here with us tonight in Salt Lake City.

01:56:09.000 Brilliant.

01:56:10.000 Today, two of the ISIS killers responsible for Kayla Mueller's murder were brought to justice in the United States. 0.59

01:56:19.000 Jihadi John was killed on the battlefield along with the other beetle.

01:56:23.000 The reality is that when Joe Biden was vice president, we had an opportunity to save Kayla Mueller.

01:56:30.000 It breaks my heart to reflect on it, but the military came into the Oval Office, presented a plan.

01:56:35.000 They said they knew where Kayla was.

01:56:38.000 Baghdadi had held her for 18 months, abused her mercilessly before they killed her.

01:56:44.000 But when Joe Biden was vice president, they hesitated for a month.

01:56:48.000 And when armed forces finally went in, it was clear she'd been moved two days earlier.

01:56:54.000 And her family says, with a heart that broke the heart of every American, that if President Donald Trump had been president, they believe Kayla would be alive today.

01:57:03.000 Thank you, Vice President.

01:57:04.000 But we destroyed the ISIS caliphate. 0.51

01:57:07.000 And you talked about reentering the Iran nuclear deal.

01:57:10.000 I mean, the last administration transferred $1.8 billion to the leading state sponsor of terrorism.

01:57:15.000 Thank you, Vice President.

01:57:17.000 President Donald Trump got us out of the deal.

01:57:19.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

01:57:20.000 And when Qasem Soleimani was traveling to Baghdad to do harm to Americans, President Donald Trump took the deal.

01:57:27.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

01:57:28.000 And America is safer.

01:57:30.000 Our allies are safer.

01:57:32.000 And the American people know President Donald Trump will never have to take action.

01:57:37.000 I would like to give Senator Harris a chance to respond, but not at such great lengths, because, of course, there are other topics we want to talk about.

01:57:42.000 But I would like equal time.

01:57:43.000 Yes. 0.87

01:57:44.000 She got five minutes.

01:57:46.000 First of all, to the Mueller family, I know about your daughter's case.

01:57:51.000 And I'm so sorry.

01:57:53.000 I'm so sorry.

01:57:56.000 What happened to her is awful.

01:57:59.000 And it should have never happened.

01:58:01.000 And I know Joe feels the same way.

01:58:04.000 And I know that President Obama feels the same way.

01:58:09.000 But you mentioned Soleimani.

01:58:11.000 Let's start there. 1.00

01:58:12.000 Her hair looks like shit. 1.00

01:58:13.000 So, after the strike on Soleimani, there was a counter strike on our troops in Iraq. 1.00

01:58:22.000 And.

01:58:25.000 They suffered serious brain injuries, and do you know what Donald Trump dismissed them as?

01:58:30.000 Headaches. 0.99

01:58:31.000 And this is about a pattern of Donald Trump's, where he has referred to our men who are serving in our military as suckers and losers. 0.97

01:58:42.000 Donald Trump, who went to Arlington Cemetery and stood above the graves of our fallen heroes and said, What's in it for them? 0.97

01:58:56.000 Because, of course, you know, he only thinks about what's in it for him.

01:59:00.000 Let's take what he said about John McCain, a great American hero. 1.00

01:59:06.000 Fuck John McCain. 1.00

01:59:08.000 And Donald Trump says he doesn't deserve to be called a hero because he was a prisoner of war. 1.00

01:59:15.000 That's not what he said.

01:59:16.000 And this is very important when you want to talk about who is the current commander in chief and what they care about and what they don't care about.

01:59:25.000 Public reporting that Russia had bounties on the heads of American soldiers.

01:59:31.000 That's literally all they do.

01:59:32.000 Do you know what a bounty is? 0.55

01:59:34.000 It's somebody who puts a price on your head and they will pay it if you are killed.

01:59:39.000 And Donald Trump has talked at least six times to Vladimir Putin. 1.00

01:59:43.000 Stalkers and losers, Arlington, Bounty, the Senate. 0.99

01:59:46.000 That's all fake. 0.99

01:59:47.000 Joe Biden would never do that.

01:59:48.000 Thank you.

01:59:50.000 But Joe Biden would hold Russia to account for any threat to our nation's security or to our troops who are sacrificing their lives for the sake of our democracy and our safety.

02:00:04.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

02:00:05.000 This is such an important issue, but we have other important issues.

02:00:07.000 Important issues as well.

02:00:08.000 And I want to make sure we have a chance to respond to that.

02:00:10.000 I really have to respond to that.

02:00:12.000 Look, she has 15 seconds because I'm trying to keep.

02:00:16.000 I'm sorry, Vice President, but you've had more time than she's had so far.

02:00:20.000 Slanders against President Donald Trump regarding men and women of our armed forces are absurd.

02:00:27.000 I'm sorry, Vice President.

02:00:28.000 My son is in the United States Marine Corps.

02:00:31.000 My son in law is deployed in the United States Navy. 0.51

02:00:34.000 I can assure all of you, with sons and daughters serving in our military, President Donald Trump not only respects but reveres all of those who serve in our armed forces, and any suggestion otherwise is ridiculous.

02:00:46.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

02:00:49.000 The American people deserve it.

02:00:52.000 I didn't know.

02:00:53.000 Vice President Pence, I did not create the rules for tonight.

02:00:56.000 Joe Biden.

02:00:57.000 Your campaigns agreed to the rules for tonight's debate with the Commission on President Debates.

02:01:02.000 I'm here to enforce them, which involves moving from one topic to another, giving roughly equal time to both of you, which is what I'm trying very hard to do.

02:01:10.000 Go right ahead.

02:01:11.000 So, I want to go ahead and move to the next topic, which is an important one, as the last topic was, and that is the Supreme Court.

02:01:20.000 On Monday, the Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to open hearings on Amy Coney Barrett's nomination to the Supreme Court.

02:01:26.000 Senator Harris, you'll be there as a member of the committee.

02:01:29.000 Her confirmation would cement the court's conservative majority and make it likely open to more abortion restrictions, even to overturning the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling.

02:01:40.000 Access to abortion would then be up to the Supreme Court.

02:01:44.000 Vice President Pence, you're the former governor of Indiana.

02:01:47.000 If Roe v. Wade is overturned, what would you want Indiana to do?

02:01:52.000 Would you want your home state to ban all abortions?

02:01:56.000 You have two minutes, uninterrupted.

02:01:58.000 Well, thank you for the question, but I'll use a little bit of my time to respond to that very important issue before.

02:02:03.000 American people want to know Qasem Soleimani, the Iranian general, was responsible for the death of hundreds of American service members.

02:02:13.000 When the opportunity came, we saw him headed to Baghdad to kill more Americans. 0.72

02:02:17.000 President Trump Didn't hesitate. 0.87

02:02:20.000 And Qasem Soleimani is gone.

02:02:23.000 But you deserve to know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris actually criticized the decision to take out Qasem Soleimani.

02:02:32.000 It's really inexplicable.

02:02:33.000 But with regard to Joe Biden, it's explainable.

02:02:36.000 Because history records that Joe Biden actually opposed the raid against Osama bin Laden.

02:02:41.000 It's absolutely essential that we have a commander in chief who will not hesitate to act to protect American lives and to protect American service members.

02:02:51.000 And that's what you have in President Donald Trump.

02:02:53.000 Now, with regard to the Supreme Court of the United States, President Trump and I could not be more enthusiastic about the opportunity to see Judge Amy Coney Barrett become Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

02:03:06.000 She's a brilliant woman, and she will bring a lifetime of experience and a sizable American family to the Supreme Court of the United States.

02:03:15.000 And our hope is in the hearing next week, unlike Justice Kavanaugh received with treatment from you and others, we hope she gets a fair.

02:03:23.000 Hearing.

02:03:24.000 And we particularly hope that we don't see the kind of attacks on her Christian faith that we saw before.

02:03:30.000 I mean, the Democrat chairman of the Judiciary Committee before, when Judge Baird was being confirmed for the Court of Appeals, expressed concern that the dogma of her faith lived loudly in her.

02:03:45.000 Dick Durbin of Illinois said that it was a concern.

02:03:49.000 Senator, I know one of our judicial nominees you actually attacked because they were a member of the Catholic Knights of Columbus.

02:03:56.000 Just because the Knights of Columbus holds pro life views and pro life views.

02:04:00.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

02:04:01.000 My hope is that when the hearing takes place, Judge Amy Coney Barrett will be respected, respected, and voted and confirmed to the Supreme Court of the United States.

02:04:01.000 Your time is up.

02:04:11.000 Senator Harris, you're the senator from and former Attorney General of California.

02:04:15.000 So let me ask you a parallel question to the one that posed to the Vice President.

02:04:19.000 If Roe v. Wade is overturned, what would you want California to do?

02:04:23.000 Would you want your home state to enact no restrictions on access to abortion?

02:04:28.000 And you have two minutes uninterrupted.

02:04:31.000 Thank you, Susan.

02:04:32.000 First of all, Joe Biden and I are both people of faith.

02:04:36.000 And it's insulting to suggest that we would knock anyone for their faith.

02:04:42.000 And in fact, Joe, if elected, will be only the second practicing Catholic as president of the United States.

02:04:52.000 On the issue of this nomination, Joe and I are very clear, as are the majority of the American people.

02:04:59.000 We are 27 days before the decision about who will be the next president of the United States.

02:05:06.000 And, you know, before when this conversation has come up, you know, it's been about election year or election time.

02:05:12.000 We're literally in an election.

02:05:15.000 Over 4 million people have voted.

02:05:18.000 People are in the process of voting right now.

02:05:21.000 And so Joe has been very clear, as the American people are, let the American people fill that seat in the White House.

02:05:29.000 And then we'll fill that seat on the United States Supreme Court.

02:05:32.000 And to your point, Susan, the issues before us couldn't be more serious.

02:05:36.000 There's the issue of choice, and I will always fight for a woman's right to make a decision about her own body.

02:05:42.000 It should be her decision and not that of Donald Trump and the Vice President, Michael Pence.

02:05:47.000 But let's also look at what else is before the Supreme Court.

02:05:50.000 It's the Affordable Care Act.

02:05:51.000 You can't control your body.

02:05:53.000 Literally, in the midst of a public. 1.00

02:05:55.000 Donald Trump says no abortion, bitch. 1.00

02:05:57.000 When over 210,000 people have passed away, it controls all women's bodies. 1.00

02:06:03.000 Probably have what will be in the future considered a pre existing condition because you contracted the virus.

02:06:10.000 Donald Trump is in court right now trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

02:06:14.000 And I said it before and it bears repeating.

02:06:17.000 This means that there will be no more protections if they win for people with pre existing conditions.

02:06:25.000 This means that over 20 million people will lose your coverage.

02:06:30.000 It means that if you're under the age of 26, you can't stay on your parents' coverage anymore.

02:06:35.000 And here's the thing the contrast couldn't be more clear.

02:06:39.000 They're trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

02:06:41.000 Joe Biden is saying, let's expand coverage, let's give you a choice of a public option or private coverage, let's bring down premiums, let's lower Medicare eligibility to 60.

02:06:51.000 Thank you, Senator.

02:06:52.000 That's true leadership.

02:06:53.000 You know, you mentioned earlier, Vice President Pence, that the president was committed to maintaining protections for people with pre existing conditions.

02:07:04.000 But you do have this court case that you are supporting, your administration supporting, that would strike down the Affordable Care Act.

02:07:11.000 The president says, President Trump says that he's going to protect people with pre existing conditions, but he has not explained how he would do that.

02:07:19.000 And that was one of the toughest nuts to crack when they were passing the Affordable Care Act.

02:07:23.000 So tell us specifically, how would your administration?

02:07:27.000 Protect Americans with pre existing conditions to have access to affordable insurance if the Affordable Care Act is struck down?

02:07:35.000 Well, thank you, Susan.

02:07:37.000 But let me just say, addressing your very first question, I couldn't be more proud to serve as vice president to a president who stands without apology for the sanctity of human life.

02:07:48.000 I'm pro life, I don't apologize for it.

02:07:52.000 And this is another one of those cases where there's such a dramatic contrast.

02:07:57.000 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris support.

02:07:59.000 Taxpayer funding of abortion all the way up to the moment of birth, late term abortion.

02:08:04.000 They want to increase funding to Planned Parenthood of America.

02:08:08.000 Now, for our part, I would never presume how Judge Amy Coney Barrett would rule on the Supreme Court of the United States, but we'll continue to stand strong for the right to life.

02:08:19.000 When you speak about the Supreme Court, though, I think the American people really deserve an answer, Senator Harris.

02:08:25.000 Are you and Joe Biden going to pack the court if Judge Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed?

02:08:30.000 I mean, there have been 29 vacancies on the Supreme Court during presidential election years, from George Washington to Barack Obama.

02:08:36.000 Presidents have nominated in all 29 cases.

02:08:39.000 But your party is actually openly advocating adding seats to the Supreme Court, which has had nine seats for 150 years, if you don't get your way.

02:08:49.000 This is a classic case of if you can't win by the rules, you're going to change the rules.

02:08:53.000 Now, you've refused to answer the question.

02:08:55.000 Joe Biden has refused to answer the question.

02:08:58.000 So I think the American people would really like to know.

02:09:00.000 If Judge Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed at the Supreme Court of the United States, are you and Joe Biden, if somehow you win this election, going to pack the Supreme Court to get your way?

02:09:11.000 I'm so glad we went through a little history lesson.

02:09:14.000 Let's do that a little more. 0.56

02:09:16.000 She is such a. 1.00

02:09:17.000 In 1864.

02:09:18.000 I'd like you to answer the question.

02:09:19.000 Yes, Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

02:09:21.000 I'm speaking.

02:09:23.000 Okay.

02:09:24.000 In 1864. 1.00

02:09:25.000 What a fucking bitch. 1.00

02:09:26.000 One of the, I think, political heroes, certainly of the president, I assume of you also, Mr. Vice President, is Abraham Lincoln. 1.00

02:09:32.000 Mm hmm.

02:09:34.000 Abraham Lincoln was up for reelection, and it was 27 days before the election, and a seat became open on the United States Supreme Court.

02:09:45.000 Abraham Lincoln's party was in charge not only of the White House, but the Senate.

02:09:49.000 But Honest Abe said it's not the right thing to do.

02:09:54.000 The American people deserve to make the decision about who will be the next president of the United States, and then that person can select who will serve for a lifetime.

02:10:05.000 On the highest court of our land.

02:10:07.000 And so Joe and I are very clear.

02:10:10.000 The American people are voting right now, and it should be their decision about who will serve on this most important body for a lifetime.

02:10:23.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

02:10:24.000 And the people, Susan, are voting right now.

02:10:26.000 They'd like to know if you and Joe Biden are going to pack the Supreme Court if you don't get your way in this nomination.

02:10:33.000 Let's talk about packing the Supreme Court.

02:10:34.000 You once again gave a non answer.

02:10:36.000 Joe Biden gave a non answer.

02:10:37.000 I'm trying to answer you now.

02:10:39.000 Straight answer, and if you haven't figured it out yet, the straight answer is they are going to pack the Supreme Court if they somehow win this election.

02:10:47.000 Men and women, I gotta tell you, people across this country, if you cherish our Supreme Court, if you cherish the separation of powers, you need to reject the Biden Harris ticket come November the 3rd, re elect President Donald Trump, and we'll stand by that separation of powers in a nine seat Supreme Court.

02:11:03.000 Yeah, let's talk about packing the court then.

02:11:05.000 Let's talk about the pack.

02:11:06.000 Yeah, I'm about to. 1.00

02:11:10.000 Fuck you! 1.00

02:11:11.000 The Trump Pence administration. 1.00

02:11:13.000 I hate it. 1.00

02:11:14.000 Because I sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Susan, as you mentioned, and I've witnessed the appointments for lifetime appointments to the federal courts, district courts, courts of appeal.

02:11:25.000 People who are purely ideological, people who have been reviewed by legal professional organizations and found to have been not competent, are substandard.

02:11:36.000 And do you know that of the 50 people who President Trump appointed to the Court of Appeals for lifetime appointments? 0.88

02:11:45.000 Not one is black. 1.00

02:11:48.000 This is what they've been doing. 1.00

02:11:49.000 You want to talk about packing a court?

02:11:51.000 Let's have that discussion.

02:11:52.000 All right.

02:11:53.000 Thank you, Senator.

02:11:53.000 Thank you.

02:11:54.000 Let's go on and talk about the issue of racial justice.

02:11:58.000 I just want the record to reflect she never answered the question.

02:12:01.000 Maybe the next debate, Joe Biden will answer the question.

02:12:04.000 But I think the American people know the answer.

02:12:06.000 Thank you, Vice President.

02:12:08.000 In March, Breonna Taylor, a 26 year old emergency room technician in Louisville, was shot and killed.

02:12:14.000 The term is this.

02:12:15.000 This.

02:12:16.000 Now they're wrong.

02:12:19.000 The police said they identified themselves.

02:12:22.000 Taylor's boyfriend said he didn't hear them do that.

02:12:25.000 He used a gun registered to him to fire a shot, which wounded an officer.

02:12:30.000 The officers then fired more than 20 rounds into the apartment.

02:12:33.000 They say they were acting in self defense.

02:12:37.000 I'm loading, Senator Harris.

02:12:41.000 In the case of Breonna Taylor, was justice done?

02:12:45.000 You have two minutes.

02:12:46.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:47.000 I don't believe so.

02:12:48.000 And I've talked with Breonna's mother, Tamika Palmer, and her family.

02:12:53.000 And her family deserves justice.

02:12:55.000 She was a beautiful young woman.

02:12:57.000 She had as her life goal to become a nurse, and she wanted to become an EMT to first learn what's going on out on the street so she could then become a nurse and save lives.

02:13:08.000 And her life was taken unjustifiably and tragically and violently. 0.98

02:13:12.000 Hey, Brianna!

02:13:13.000 And it just brings me to the eight minutes and 46 seconds that America witnessed, during which.

02:13:25.000 An American man was tortured and killed under the knee of an armed uniformed police officer.

02:13:35.000 Get down, George.

02:13:36.000 Get down right now.

02:13:38.000 Boy.

02:13:39.000 Hey, boy!

02:13:40.000 I said get down on the ground now. 1.00

02:13:45.000 Boy, get your black ass on the ground now. 1.00

02:13:50.000 Before I kill you. 1.00

02:13:54.000 Before I send you to Al. 1.00

02:13:58.000 And I was opposed to peaceful protests. 1.00

02:14:00.000 You uppity piece of shit. 1.00

02:14:03.000 I believe, sir. 1.00

02:14:04.000 Get down on the ground.

02:14:05.000 First of all, we are never going to condone violence, but we always must fight for the values that we hold dear, including the fight to achieve our ideals.

02:14:17.000 And that's why Joe Biden and I have said on this subject look, and I'm a former career prosecutor.

02:14:23.000 I know what I'm talking about.

02:14:24.000 Bad cops are bad for good cops.

02:14:26.000 We need reform of our police in America and our criminal justice system, which is why Joe and I. Will immediately ban choke holes and carotid holes.

02:14:36.000 George Floyd will be alive today if we did that.

02:14:38.000 We will require a national registry for police officers who break the law.

02:14:43.000 We will, on the issue of criminal justice reform, get rid of private prisons and cash bail.

02:14:50.000 And we will decriminalize marijuana.

02:14:53.000 And we will expunge the records of those who have been convicted of marijuana.

02:14:58.000 This is a time for leadership.

02:14:59.000 On a tragic, tragic issue, there are unarmed black people in America who will be convicted of no more karate.

02:15:06.000 Vice President Pence, let me pose the same question to you.

02:15:09.000 In the case of Breonna Taylor, Was justice done?

02:15:13.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

02:15:17.000 Well, our heart breaks for the loss of any innocent American life.

02:15:22.000 She wasn't innocent.

02:15:23.000 And the family of Breonna Taylor has our sympathies.

02:15:27.000 But I trust our justice system, a grand jury that refused the evidence.

02:15:33.000 And it really is remarkable that as a former prosecutor, you would assume that an impaneled grand jury looking at all the evidence got it wrong.

02:15:41.000 But you're entitled to your opinion, Senator.

02:15:45.000 Epic, epic, just epic.

02:15:47.000 With regard to George Floyd, there's no excuse for what happened to George Floyd.

02:15:51.000 Yeah, there is.

02:15:52.000 Justice will be served.

02:15:54.000 But there's also no excuse for the rioting and looting that followed.

02:16:00.000 I mean, it really is astonishing.

02:16:02.000 Flora Westbrook is with us here tonight in Salt Lake City.

02:16:06.000 Just a few weeks ago, I stood at what used to be her salon, it was burned to the ground by rioters and looters.

02:16:17.000 And Flora is still trying to put her life back together.

02:16:20.000 This is so good.

02:16:21.000 And I must tell you, this presumption that you hear consistently from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris that America is systemically racist, and that as Joe Biden said, that he believes that law enforcement has an implicit bias against minorities, is a great insult to the men and women who serve in law enforcement.

02:16:48.000 And I want everyone to know who puts on the uniform of law enforcement every day that President Trump and I stand with you.

02:16:56.000 And it is remarkable that when Senator Tim Scott tried to pass a police reform bill, brought together a group of Republicans to take the virus, you got up and walked out of the room.

02:17:08.000 And then you filibustered Senator Tim Scott's bill on the Senate floor that would have provided new accountability, new resources.

02:17:16.000 But we don't have to choose between supporting law enforcement.

02:17:19.000 Proving public safety and supporting our African American neighbors and all of our minorities.

02:17:25.000 Under President Trump's leadership, we will always stand with law enforcement and will do what we've done since day one of the election.

02:17:32.000 Are you kidding me?

02:17:33.000 She got like three minutes.

02:17:34.000 Thank you, Vice President.

02:17:34.000 Record unemployment, record investments in education, and we'll fight for school choice for people who are not in the class.

02:17:40.000 I'd like to respond.

02:17:41.000 Senator Harris. 0.97

02:17:42.000 Get that fly out of your hair!

02:17:43.000 I'm not going to sit here and be lectured by the Vice President on what it means to enforce the laws of our country.

02:17:48.000 I am the only one on this stage.

02:17:51.000 Who has personally prosecuted everything from child sexual assault to homicide?

02:17:56.000 Get that fly out of your hair!

02:18:00.000 It's like it died there!

02:18:02.000 Oh!

02:18:02.000 Please, God!

02:18:03.000 Please get that fly out of his hair!

02:18:10.000 CIA, it's a CIA drone!

02:18:14.000 The president of the United States took a debate stage in front of 70 million Americans.

02:18:22.000 And he refused to condemn white supremacists.

02:18:25.000 Not true.

02:18:26.000 And it wasn't like he didn't have a chance.

02:18:31.000 He didn't do it, and then he doubled down.

02:18:34.000 And then he said, when pressed, stand back, stand by.

02:18:41.000 And this is a pattern of Donald Trump's. 0.99

02:18:48.000 He called Mexicans rapists and criminals. 0.99

02:18:52.000 He instituted, as his first act, a Muslim ban. 0.98

02:18:56.000 He, on the issue of Charlottesville, where people were peacefully protesting the need for racial justice.

02:19:05.000 Oh, my gosh.

02:19:06.000 Killed. 0.96

02:19:06.000 And on the other side, there were neo Nazis carrying teeth in water, shouting in water epithets, anti Semitic slurs. 0.96

02:19:18.000 And Donald Trump, when asked about it, said, There were fine people on both sides.

02:19:23.000 There was.

02:19:24.000 This is who we have as the president of the United States.

02:19:26.000 And America, you deserve better.

02:19:28.000 Joe Biden will be a president who brings our country together and recognizes the beauty in our diversity and the fact that we all have so much more in common than what separates us.

02:19:40.000 Vice President Pence, let me give you a minute to respond.

02:19:42.000 Thank you, Susan.

02:19:43.000 I appreciate that very much.

02:19:46.000 I think this is one of the things that makes people dislike the media so much in this country, Susan, is that you selectively edit, just like Senator Harris did, comments that President Trump and I and others on our side of the aisle make.

02:20:00.000 I mean, Senator Harris conveniently omitted.

02:20:03.000 After the president made comments about people on either side of the debate over monuments, he condemned the KKK, neo Nazis, and white supremacists, and has done so.

02:20:15.000 Repeatedly, you're concerned that he doesn't condemn neo Nazis. 0.55

02:20:20.000 President Trump has Jewish grandchildren.

02:20:22.000 His daughter and son in law are Jewish.

02:20:25.000 This is a president who respects and cherishes all of the American people.

02:20:30.000 But you talk about having personally prosecuted.

02:20:32.000 I'm glad you brought up your record, Senator.

02:20:34.000 Thank you.

02:20:35.000 I really need to make this point.

02:20:38.000 When you were DA in San Francisco, when you left office, African Americans were 19 times more likely to be.

02:20:46.000 Prosecuted for minor drug offenses than whites and Hispanics.

02:20:50.000 When you were Attorney General of California, you increased the disproportionate incarceration of blacks in California.

02:20:58.000 You did nothing on criminal justice reform in California.

02:21:02.000 You didn't lift a finger to pass the First Step Act on Capitol Hill.

02:21:05.000 I mean, the reality is your record speaks for itself.

02:21:09.000 President Trump and I have fought for criminal justice reform.

02:21:12.000 Thank you, Vice President.

02:21:13.000 You fought for educational choice and opportunities for African Americans, all of our members.

02:21:17.000 Thank you, sir.

02:21:17.000 And we'll do it for four months.

02:21:18.000 Thank you.

02:21:19.000 You know, there is no more important issue than the final issue that we're going to talk about tonight, and that is the issue of the election itself.

02:21:26.000 He attacked my record.

02:21:28.000 I would like an opportunity to respond.

02:21:29.000 Let me give you 30 seconds because we're running out of time.

02:21:32.000 I appreciate that.

02:21:35.000 First of all, having served as the Attorney General of the State of California, the work that I did is a model of what our nation needs to do and we will be able to do under a Joe Biden presidency.

02:21:49.000 Our Our agenda includes what this administration has failed to do.

02:21:55.000 It will be about not only instituting a ban on chokeholds and carotid holes.

02:21:59.000 Thank you.

02:22:01.000 I would like to go through.

02:22:01.000 Thank you, Senator.

02:22:02.000 These are points that you made earlier in the hour, and I want to talk about the election itself before we have to.

02:22:07.000 But I want to talk about the connection between what Joe and I will do and my record, which includes I was the first statewide officer to institute a requirement that my agents would wear body cameras and keep them on full time.

02:22:20.000 We were the first to negotiate a requirement.

02:22:23.000 Requirement that there would be a training for law enforcement on implicit bias because, yes, Joe Biden and I recognize that implicit bias does exist, Mr. Vice President, contrary to what you may believe.

02:22:34.000 We did the work of instituting reforms that were about investing in reentry.

02:22:39.000 This is the work that we have done and the work we will do going forward. 0.83

02:22:43.000 And again, I will not be lectured by the Vice President on our record of what we have done in terms of law enforcement and keeping our communities safe.

02:22:54.000 And a commitment to reforming the criminal justice system of America.

02:22:56.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

02:22:58.000 And I'd like to pose the first, I'd like you to respond first to the question on our final topic, the election itself.

02:23:05.000 President Trump has several times refused to commit himself to a peaceful transfer of power after the election.

02:23:12.000 If your ticket wins and President Trump refuses to accept a peaceful transfer of power, what steps would you and Vice President Biden then take?

02:23:21.000 What would happen next?

02:23:23.000 You have two minutes.

02:23:25.000 So I'll tell you, Joe and I are, I think, particularly proud of the coalition that we've built around our campaign.

02:23:35.000 We probably have one of the broadest coalitions of folks that you've ever seen in a presidential race.

02:23:40.000 Of course, we have the support of Democrats, but also independents and Republicans.

02:23:44.000 In fact, seven members of President George W. Bush's cabinet are supporting our ticket.

02:23:52.000 We have the support of Colin Powell.

02:23:56.000 Cindy McCain, John Kasich, over 500 generals, retired generals, and former national security experts and advisors are supporting our campaign.

02:24:08.000 And I believe they are doing that because they know that Joe Biden has a deep, deep seated commitment to fight for our democracy and to fight for the integrity of our democracy and to bring integrity back to the White House.

02:24:23.000 And so we believe in the American people.

02:24:26.000 We believe in our democracy.

02:24:28.000 And here's what I'd like to say to everybody.

02:24:30.000 Vote.

02:24:31.000 Please vote.

02:24:32.000 Vote early.

02:24:33.000 Come up with a plan to vote.

02:24:34.000 Go to iwillvote.com.

02:24:35.000 You can also go to joebiden.com.

02:24:38.000 We have it within our power in these next 27 days to make the decision about what will be the course of our country for the next four years.

02:24:49.000 And it is within our power.

02:24:50.000 And if we use our vote and we use our voice, we will win.

02:24:56.000 And we will not let anyone subvert our democracy with what Donald Trump has been doing as he did on the debate stage last week.

02:25:04.000 When again, in front of 70 million people, he openly attempted to suppress the vote.

02:25:13.000 Joe Biden, on the other hand, on that same debate stage, because clearly Donald Trump doesn't think he can run on a record because it's a failed record, Joe Biden on that stage said, hey, just please vote.

02:25:23.000 So I'll repeat what Joe said.

02:25:24.000 Please vote.

02:25:25.000 Thank you, Senator.

02:25:27.000 Vice President Pence, President Trump has several times refused to commit himself to a peaceful transfer of power after the election.

02:25:34.000 If Vice President Biden is declared the winner and President Trump refuses to accept a peaceful transfer of power, what would be your role and responsibility as Vice President?

02:25:43.000 What would you personally do?

02:25:46.000 You have two minutes.

02:25:48.000 Well, Susan, first and foremost, I think we're going to win this election.

02:25:52.000 Because while Joe Biden and Kamala Harris rattle off a long litany of the establishment in Washington, D.C., an establishment that Joe Biden's been a part of for 47 years, President Donald Trump has launched a movement of everyday Americans from every walk of life.

02:26:08.000 And I have every confidence that those same Americans that delivered that historic victory in 2016 see this president's record where we rebuild our military.

02:26:18.000 We revived our economy through tax cuts and rolling back regulation, fighting for fair trade, unleashing American energy.

02:26:26.000 We appointed conservatives to our federal courts at every level.

02:26:30.000 And we stood with the men and women of law enforcement every single day.

02:26:33.000 And I think that movement of Americans has only grown stronger in the last four years.

02:26:38.000 But when you talk about accepting the outcome of the election, I must tell you, Senator, your party has spent the last three and a half years trying to overturn the results of the last election.

02:26:51.000 It's amazing.

02:26:52.000 When Joe Biden was vice president of the United States, the FBI actually spied on President Trump and my campaign.

02:27:00.000 I mean, there were documents released this week that the CIA actually made a referral to the FBI documenting that those allegations were coming from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

02:27:10.000 And of course, we've all seen the avalanche, what.

02:27:14.000 What you put the country through for the better part of three years until it was found that there was no obstruction, no collusion, case closed.

02:27:24.000 And then Senator Harris, you and your colleagues in the Congress tried to impeach the President of the United States over a phone call.

02:27:33.000 And now Hillary Clinton has actually said to Joe Biden that, in her words, under no circumstances should he concede the election.

02:27:39.000 So let me just say, I think we're going to win this election.

02:27:42.000 President Trump and I are fighting every day in courthouses to prevent.

02:27:46.000 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris from changing the rules and creating this universal mail in voting that will create a massive opportunity for voter fraud.

02:27:54.000 And we have a free and fair election.

02:27:56.000 We know we're going to have confidence in it.

02:27:58.000 And I believe in all my heart that President Donald Trump's going to be reelected for four more years.

02:28:02.000 You know, I've written all the questions that I've asked tonight.

02:28:05.000 But for the final question of the debate, I'd like to read a question that someone else wrote.

02:28:12.000 The Utah Debate Commission asked students in the state.

02:28:16.000 To write essays about what they would like to ask you.

02:28:19.000 And I want to close tonight's debate with the question posed by Brecklin Brown.

02:28:24.000 She's an eighth grader at Springville Junior High in Springville, Utah.

02:28:28.000 And here's what she wrote When I watch the news, all I see is arguing between Democrats and Republicans.

02:28:36.000 When I watch the news, all I see is citizen fighting against citizen.

02:28:42.000 When I watch the news, all I see are two candidates from opposing parties trying to tear each other down.

02:28:47.000 If our leaders can't get along, How are the citizens supposed to get along?

02:28:52.000 And then she added, Your examples could make all the difference to bring us together.

02:28:59.000 So, to each of you in turn, I'd like you to take one minute and respond to Brecklin.

02:29:04.000 Vice President Pence, you have one minute.

02:29:06.000 Brecklin, it's a wonderful question.

02:29:09.000 And let me just commend you for taking an interest in public life.

02:29:15.000 I started following the news when I was very young.

02:29:19.000 And in America, We believe in a free and open exchange of debate.

02:29:26.000 And we celebrate that.

02:29:27.000 And it's how we've created literally the freest and most prosperous nation in the history of the world.

02:29:35.000 I would tell you that don't assume that what you're seeing on your local news networks is synonymous with the American people.

02:29:46.000 You know, I look at the relationship between Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the late Justice who we just lost from the Supreme Court, and the late Justice Antonin Scalia.

02:29:56.000 They were on polar opposites on the Supreme Court of the United States.

02:30:00.000 One very liberal, one very conservative.

02:30:03.000 But what's been learned since her passing was the two of them and their families were the very closest of friends.

02:30:09.000 I mean, here in America, we can disagree.

02:30:12.000 We can debate vigorously, as Senator Harris and I have on this stage tonight.

02:30:17.000 But when the debate is over, we come together as Americans.

02:30:20.000 And that's what people do in big cities and small towns all across this country.

02:30:24.000 So I just want to encourage you, Brecklin.

02:30:27.000 I want to tell you that we're going to work every day to have government as good as our people, and the American people each and every day.

02:30:35.000 Love a good debate.

02:30:36.000 We love a good argument.

02:30:38.000 But we always come together and are always there for one another in times of need.

02:30:42.000 And we've especially learned that through the difficulties of this year.

02:30:48.000 Senator Harris, what would you say to Brecklin?

02:30:50.000 That was really good.

02:30:52.000 First of all, I love hearing from our young leaders.

02:30:56.000 And when I hear her words, when I hear your words, Brecklin, I know our future is bright because it is that perspective on who we are and who we should be.

02:31:07.000 That is a sign of leadership and is something we should all aspire to be.

02:31:11.000 And that brings me to Joe.

02:31:13.000 Joe Biden, one of the reasons that Joe decided to run for president is after Charlottesville, which we talked about earlier.

02:31:23.000 It so troubled him and upset him like it did all of us that there was that kind of hate.

02:31:28.000 I was there.

02:31:29.000 I was there.

02:31:30.000 What propelled Joe to run for president was to see that over the course of the last four years, what Brecklin described has been happening.

02:31:38.000 Joe has a long standing reputation of working across the aisle and working in a bipartisan way.

02:31:45.000 And that's what he's going to do as president.

02:31:47.000 Joe Biden has a history of lifting people up and fighting for their dignity.

02:31:54.000 I mean, you have to know Joe's story to know that Joe has known pain, he has known suffering, and he has known love.

02:32:02.000 And so, Brecklin, when you think about the future, I do believe the future is bright. 1.00

02:32:08.000 She's such an idiot. 1.00

02:32:08.000 She sucks. 1.00

02:32:09.000 It will be because of your leadership. 0.99

02:32:12.000 And it will be because we fight for each person's voice through their vote, and we get engaged in this election because you have the ability through your work and through eventually your vote to determine the future of our country and what its leadership looks like.

02:32:31.000 Thank you, Senator Harris.

02:32:32.000 Thank you, Vice President Pence.

02:32:34.000 Thank you so much for being with us tonight.

02:32:36.000 We want to thank also the University of Utah for its hospitality, and most of all, our thanks to all the Americans who watch this debate tonight.

02:32:46.000 Again, our best wishes for a quick recovery to President Trump, the First Lady, and everyone who is battling COVID 19.

02:32:54.000 The second presidential debate is next week on October 15th, a town hall style debate in Miami.

02:33:00.000 We hope you'll join us then.

02:33:02.000 Good evening.

02:33:09.000 All right.

02:33:11.000 And good evening once again from New York, Lester Holt, along with Savannah Guthrie, the end of a 90 minute debate between Vice President Mike Pence.

02:33:20.000 And Senator Kamala Harris.

02:33:22.000 Fair to say, a lot of people holding their breath after last week, wondering what the tone would be in this. 1.00

02:33:28.000 Look at this idiot with the mask on. 1.00

02:33:30.000 Largely civil, Savannah Guthrie. 1.00

02:33:31.000 It's not without its moments, but we've certainly got a chance this time to hear from both of them and take a measure.

02:33:38.000 And the question, perhaps, right now, not who won or lost, but who did what they had to do under the circumstances.

02:33:44.000 Well, tonight we had a debate as opposed to a debacle.

02:33:47.000 And for that, I think a lot of Americans are breathing a sigh of relief.

02:33:51.000 A lot of different topics covered.

02:33:54.000 And it was mostly civil.

02:33:55.000 There was some back and forth, but substance was discussed.

02:33:59.000 COVID was discussed.

02:34:00.000 The Supreme Court.

02:34:02.000 A lot of talk about manufacturing and jobs.

02:34:04.000 It's a real tell that this battleground, this campaign is being fought in the industrial Midwest.

02:34:10.000 I want to bring in Chuck Todd.

02:34:12.000 Chuck, as you watch tonight, and Lester's question is spot on, you know, who did what they had to do?

02:34:19.000 And did they both do what they had to do?

02:34:21.000 Well, I don't mean to do a cop out here, but that's where I was going to land.

02:34:25.000 You could tell they both sort of had a game plan. 1.00

02:34:28.000 Shut up, shut up, Chuck Todd. 1.00

02:34:30.000 I fucking hate Chuck Todd. 1.00

02:34:32.000 Okay. 1.00

02:34:34.000 Debate's over.

02:34:38.000 Oh, 90 minutes, that's a long time.

02:34:47.000 Not as exciting as the last debate, I will say.

02:34:52.000 It's kind of a different experience.

02:34:54.000 Here, let me mute this.

02:34:55.000 Is this muted?

02:34:56.000 Yeah, okay.

02:34:58.000 It's kind of a different experience altogether.

02:35:03.000 In some ways, In some ways, it actually is more interesting, but in a different way.

02:35:10.000 I feel like with Trump and Biden, obviously, right out of the gate, it was shocking and it was exciting.

02:35:20.000 And it was Trump and Biden, obviously, Trump very aggressive, and sometimes Biden defending himself, but it was a spectacle.

02:35:31.000 But towards the middle and end of that debate, it became boring because they were talking over each other and.

02:35:37.000 Once they kind of initially punched themselves out, there wasn't really so much left in the way of substance.

02:35:44.000 This debate didn't have a lot of spectacle, but it was engaging throughout because you did actually hear a debate.

02:35:52.000 You did actually hear an exchange.

02:35:55.000 And whether it was biased or not, I think it was extremely biased.

02:35:58.000 I thought the questions were biased.

02:36:00.000 I thought that in terms of the speaking time, it was biased.

02:36:04.000 And you watch the same debate that I did, I'm sure everybody feels similarly.

02:36:09.000 In spite of this, there was actually a real exchange to follow.

02:36:13.000 I think Pence is a great public speaker, Kamala less so, but I thought that for that reason, this experience and this debate might have actually even been a little bit more engaging on average throughout the whole 90 minute stretch.

02:36:28.000 I don't know about you, but even to the end, I felt like I was on the edge of my seat.

02:36:33.000 I think that's because Pence did very well.

02:36:35.000 I think Pence is a great speaker.

02:36:37.000 And I think the more subdued.

02:36:42.000 Style actually creates more suspense in a way because when it's just right out of the gate, these wild blows, you know, it kind of loses the effect after 20, 30 minutes.

02:36:54.000 We've kind of seen it all with Pence and Kamala.

02:36:56.000 You're sort of waiting for is there going to be a big punchline?

02:37:01.000 Is there going to be a big moment?

02:37:03.000 Something like that.

02:37:04.000 So for that reason, I thought it was actually maybe more engaging.

02:37:08.000 Overall, I think it was an easy Pence win.

02:37:11.000 I think that Pence is an excellent debater.

02:37:13.000 I think he won in 2016.

02:37:15.000 Against Kane, and I think he won this year against Kamala, and it wasn't even close.

02:37:21.000 And you know what's interesting about Pence actually is that his background is in talk radio.

02:37:25.000 He got his start in the state of Indiana as a wildly popular talk radio host.

02:37:30.000 I don't know if many people know that, and I can tell watching his debate that that is seriously helpful.

02:37:37.000 You could tell that he was in something like that because the way that he talks, you know, I don't know that anybody else could have that skill set if they didn't have tons of experience on air talking like that.

02:37:49.000 His fluency.

02:37:52.000 It's all very polished.

02:37:53.000 It was all very professional.

02:37:55.000 And you could tell, particularly in the last question, he does something that even I do.

02:38:01.000 What was notable about that last question, the eighth grader says politicians are fighting.

02:38:06.000 Why do we care what eighth graders think, especially eighth grade girls?

02:38:09.000 But in any case, that was kind of a curveball, unexpected question.

02:38:13.000 They gave it to Pence first, I think, because they thought that Pence would be not prepared for that.

02:38:20.000 I'm sure that they thought that if they threw a curveball, well, better give it to Pence first because if he stumbles, he'll look bad.

02:38:27.000 Kamala has a minute then to collect herself.

02:38:30.000 But Pence, you could see that he initially, it was kind of difficult to tell, but initially he didn't quite know what to say.

02:38:38.000 But he started talking, and he started talking about how he got involved in politics and how America is great, free and open debate is great.

02:38:47.000 And you could see, because this is what I do on my show, you could see that the wheels are turning.

02:38:52.000 He's sort of doing this introductory, this preambulatory sort of statement, but in the back of his mind, the wheels are turning, searching, and then he got it.

02:39:01.000 Then he thought, Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

02:39:04.000 And that was perfect. 0.92

02:39:07.000 That was a perfect analogy.

02:39:09.000 That was the perfect response.

02:39:12.000 Answered the question completely well executed.

02:39:14.000 It came off sincere and earnest and probably totally on the fly.

02:39:18.000 But I could tell that that talk radio experience helped him because you could see, gave the preamble, the wheels are turning, and then he thought of Antonin Scalia and Ginsburg.

02:39:29.000 And once he got that, he ran with it.

02:39:32.000 Finished out a great answer.

02:39:33.000 That's that kind of extemporaneous style, I think, that you could really only have if you're a broadcaster.

02:39:39.000 If you're on radio in particular, but even television too, or if you do debate or something like that.

02:39:45.000 So, anyway, just kind of an interesting thing.

02:39:48.000 I don't know if many people know that he was in talk radio, but I think that that is a huge reason why he is so good in the debates, because he was excellent in the 2016 debate and he was excellent tonight.

02:40:00.000 And I will say that.

02:40:02.000 As I said before the debate started, he is a perfect compliment to Trump because certainly a lot of people think that Trump was too aggressive or he was too much, too sensational, too aggressive.

02:40:14.000 And I thought that Pence was the perfect compliment because he was really, as far as some of the perceived faults that Trump has, Pence was the opposite measured, deliberate, calm, unflappable throughout the entire debate.

02:40:31.000 And I think that that adds, that really adds something to the.

02:40:34.000 To the Trump campaign.

02:40:36.000 He was the perfect selection for a vice president for that reason.

02:40:39.000 Because in a team like that, in a two person team, it is supposed to be complementary in that way.

02:40:45.000 As far as temperament goes, as far as obviously the engineering of an electoral map for the actual election.

02:40:53.000 And for that reason, I thought they did great. 0.98

02:40:55.000 There was a similar attempt at getting that kind of complementarity with Kamala, but it doesn't really work because Kamala just isn't a very good person. 0.71

02:41:05.000 Biden limited himself because he committed to picking a woman and then was basically boxed into picking a black woman.

02:41:11.000 And at that point, he's got a handful of options. 0.97

02:41:13.000 And as far as his options went, I think Kamala was maybe the best pick. 0.98

02:41:18.000 But she just isn't a very competent person in general. 0.96

02:41:21.000 You could see that throughout the debate, she was flustered looking down at her notes.

02:41:25.000 And she's not a very fluid orator either. 0.98

02:41:28.000 She wasn't good in the Democratic primary debates, she wasn't good in this debate.

02:41:33.000 I don't think Pence stuttered one time.

02:41:35.000 There was a little bit of repetitiveness at times, but there wasn't a stutter.

02:41:39.000 He was never at a loss for words.

02:41:41.000 With Kamala, there were very sloppy pivots.

02:41:44.000 There were critical hits on Kamala, and this is what you try to avoid in a debate.

02:41:49.000 As far as the debate goes, and I talked about this a little bit last week, your overriding objective is to not let your opponent score critical hits, not let them build up their energy and really gather steam and get going on a powerful blow against the other side.

02:42:07.000 So you try to do your best to sort of obfuscate things, disrupt or derail your opponent when they're building up their energy, or you do a response that maybe isn't a perfect defense, but it's competent enough that it's not perceived as though you were just struck in a critical way.

02:42:23.000 Kamala didn't do that.

02:42:25.000 I mean, she, like I said, because she's not competent, there were many critical hits against her, for example, on the peaceful transition of power question, on the packing the Supreme Court question, on the Green New Deal.

02:42:37.000 There were several moments throughout the debate where Pence was able to find the thing that she didn't want to talk about or couldn't talk about and pressed it and made it painfully obvious, like with the Green New Deal.

02:42:49.000 And actually, this was maybe the one time in the debate that the moderator was actually doing her job.

02:42:55.000 The moderator even pushed Kamala on the Green New Deal.

02:42:58.000 And I think for two or three separate and distinct responses, Kamala pivoted.

02:43:03.000 It would not even talk about whether or not her campaign supports that deal.

02:43:07.000 And Pence would let it go.

02:43:08.000 I mean, he followed up every time and he repeated himself.

02:43:12.000 This is very important because most people are very low attention span.

02:43:16.000 And that was a critical hit in the whole debate.

02:43:18.000 And on the Supreme Court, Pence explicitly and directly asked her, Will you pack the court?

02:43:23.000 She pivoted.

02:43:24.000 He asked her again.

02:43:25.000 She pivoted.

02:43:26.000 He said, Okay, well, you didn't answer the question.

02:43:28.000 She had nothing.

02:43:30.000 So, there were many moments throughout the debate where there were critical hits, and that's what you try to do try to score critical hits that will end up as the sound bites and the memorable moments.

02:43:40.000 This is what most people remember.

02:43:41.000 This is what people will see for the days and the week following that debate.

02:43:46.000 And the sort of secondary objective is to retain a reassuring aura throughout the debate.

02:43:54.000 You know, the critical hits are key, but also the sort of overall texture, the sort of average perception of the debate, of your performance in the debate, has to be good.

02:44:03.000 In other words, With some debaters, you could say that overall they came across unhinged.

02:44:10.000 They came across boring.

02:44:12.000 They came across whatever.

02:44:14.000 So, not only do you try to score the critical hits, but also you have to strive for a sort of average and consistent good perception, so to speak, to come across in a way that is appealing.

02:44:26.000 And I think Pence had that too, from his very controlled facial expressions and body language, which is very deliberate and controlled and consistently good.

02:44:35.000 I thought he had a 9 out of 10 performance.

02:44:39.000 My only critique with Pence, and I put this on Twitter right towards the end of the debate, is that if people perceive that the president is too aggressive, then definitely Pence is on the opposite end of the spectrum.

02:44:51.000 Maybe not the opposite, the polar opposite, but he is certainly on the other side of the spectrum.

02:44:58.000 And what I mean by this is clearly the moderator is biased.

02:45:01.000 This is consistently the biggest problem that the Trump ticket has had in the general election debates, in the last election and in this election.

02:45:10.000 And the way that Trump is able to overcome that disadvantage is by calling it out.

02:45:16.000 And that's what you have to do.

02:45:18.000 You know, you have to change the frame and sort of get control over the exchange to sort of set the frame in the minds of the people, even about the debate itself, by saying, you know, for example, in the second debate last year, Trump said, oh, great, two versus one.

02:45:32.000 I mean, just things like that, calling it out transparently, I think that really does a lot because people on our side love that.

02:45:40.000 And I think people in the middle even get frustrated.

02:45:43.000 And if you call it out, they might not even realize it unless you do that.

02:45:47.000 Mike Pence didn't one time, not one time, well, I'm sorry, exactly one time, he acknowledged that the moderation was biased.

02:45:55.000 And it was so egregious, it was when the moderator asked the usual question about white supremacists and Charlottesville and neo Nazis.

02:46:04.000 And really, he only gave a mild correction about the question and in a slight, you know, slightly admonished her and the broader media for misrepresenting Trump and Pence.

02:46:16.000 But aside from that, How about the fact that Kamala gets three to five minutes on every question and Pence gets 15 seconds?

02:46:24.000 How about that Kamala will get two or three questions in a row and Pence sometimes gets left out of the whole conversation altogether?

02:46:31.000 You know, we saw that consistently throughout the debate, the questions themselves were biased and then even the organization of the debate was biased.

02:46:39.000 The speaking times, the order in which the questions are asked, and there wasn't one time, except for on the Charlottesville question, that Pence even acknowledged it, that he even called it out.

02:46:51.000 And I think that definitely you can do that too much, where you come across like you're whining or like you're coping.

02:46:58.000 But you definitely have to do it enough if the moderation is as bad as this.

02:47:02.000 And he was clearly reluctant to call it out.

02:47:05.000 Now, I will say, even though he was reluctant to forcefully call out the biased moderation, I will say that he had a different strategy of dealing with it.

02:47:15.000 You could see that this happened multiple times throughout the debate.

02:47:19.000 Pence would be cut off, he wouldn't be able to respond.

02:47:21.000 I think the worst example of this was on the question with the troops.

02:47:25.000 Kamala gets done listing, going through the laundry list of all the fake news and slander against the president about the troops.

02:47:32.000 That he called them suckers and losers, that he went to Arlington and said what was in it for them, and he wouldn't do anything about Russia putting the bounties on heads of American troops. 0.69

02:47:42.000 All of this is not true. 0.97

02:47:44.000 You know, none of this is corroborated by any source.

02:47:49.000 Pence didn't get a chance to respond.

02:47:51.000 She gave him 15 seconds and cut him off even before the 15 seconds expired.

02:47:56.000 And Pence said, okay.

02:47:58.000 And then when he was asked the next question, he said, well, I'll just go back and finish what I was saying.

02:48:03.000 So I will say, one of the biggest obstacles, as I said, was the bias moderation.

02:48:08.000 Trump has his way of dealing with it, which is to call it out forcefully and aggressively and bombastically.

02:48:14.000 And he can make it work, I think, because he has charisma and that's his temperament.

02:48:19.000 And I think that Pence, although I would have liked him to call it out more forcefully as well, he had his own way of dealing with it, which I honestly think was effective.

02:48:28.000 I don't know if it was more effective.

02:48:30.000 Than if he were to supplement that by calling out the moderation, too.

02:48:34.000 But it definitely was not nothing.

02:48:36.000 I think it was an effective strategy, and I think it worked.

02:48:40.000 I don't think that, you know, like I said, I don't know if one is necessarily better than the other.

02:48:44.000 I think maybe if he called it out a little bit, that would have been better.

02:48:48.000 But I still think that that was a competent and actually a very thoughtful and good strategy.

02:48:52.000 And it's consistent with his temperament, which is more measured, more reserved, more deliberate.

02:48:58.000 So I thought that he had a nearly perfect performance.

02:49:01.000 There was not one time in the debate.

02:49:03.000 When I really thought that he missed an opportunity, or that I thought that his, I mean, we could nitpick, we could go into every little response.

02:49:10.000 For example, when they were talking about the economy and the environment, he got a little bit repetitive.

02:49:15.000 He seemed like he was at a loss for words at times.

02:49:19.000 Without nitpicking, I think that he had a nearly perfect performance.

02:49:22.000 And I thought that was exactly the compliment to the performance that Trump had last Tuesday.

02:49:29.000 I thought he did a great job.

02:49:31.000 I think by contrast, Kamala did terribly.

02:49:33.000 She scored zero critical hits, she was the victim of a few. 0.99

02:49:37.000 And throughout the debate, she came across as nasty. 0.98

02:49:40.000 She came across as smug and arrogant and rude and glib and dismissive. 0.98

02:49:48.000 And I don't think that's a good look for her. 1.00

02:49:51.000 I think that that is a good look for her base. 0.95

02:49:53.000 That is a good look for a vocal but tiny minority of far left people on social media.

02:50:00.000 I'm thinking particularly about young women, young feminists, young gay people, maybe militant blacks, with the exception of these, with a minority of the radical left.

02:50:12.000 I don't think that's a good look for her for every other constituency. 0.62

02:50:15.000 Not for women, not for whites, not for Hispanics. 0.61

02:50:18.000 I don't think anybody finds her smug little attitude to be appealing or compelling. 0.51

02:50:24.000 So I thought she did herself a huge disservice.

02:50:26.000 Now, here is a case study that supports the strategy of letting the enemy hang themselves. 1.00

02:50:33.000 In the case of Kamala, it worked because she is a nasty and unlikable person. 1.00

02:50:38.000 She was given time to talk, and we were able to point out all the holes, or Pence was able to. 1.00

02:50:43.000 Really exploit all the holes or problems with what she was saying. 0.92

02:50:47.000 And I think by contrast, show that she was nasty.

02:50:49.000 And it's a very important thing because in politics, particularly with politicians, not with pundits, but with politicians, it's never a good look to come across as aloof, condescending, arrogant.

02:51:03.000 And, you know, many times people level those accusations against President Trump, but Trump does it in a way I think that is somewhat in character.

02:51:11.000 I think that his.

02:51:14.000 Whatever you could say about him, it comes across as confidence and in some ways almost comes across honestly as like ironic.

02:51:22.000 You could tell that there is a sincerity about President Trump, even if he is egotistical, you might say, or overly confident.

02:51:30.000 I actually don't think that it comes across as aloof.

02:51:33.000 I don't think it comes across as arrogant.

02:51:37.000 I think it comes across in a much more earnest way. 0.86

02:51:40.000 Maybe that sounds paradoxical, but I think there is something qualitatively different between the attitude of a Kamala and somebody like Trump. 0.82

02:51:47.000 So.

02:51:48.000 I thought she did herself a huge disservice.

02:51:51.000 And I think this debate, just like it was in 2016, will have an impact on the election.

02:51:56.000 We might see that Donald Trump will win all three and Mike Pence will win the one vice presidential debate, which would be, I think, have a huge consequence in the polls.

02:52:06.000 So I thought it was a great night.

02:52:07.000 I thought it was a really good job.

02:52:09.000 Overall, I thought Pence was nearly perfect. 1.00

02:52:11.000 Kamala was unlikable. 0.98

02:52:13.000 The moderator was biased.

02:52:15.000 The questions were fine, the questions are all topical.

02:52:19.000 Some people are upset that they're not talking about immigration, and I understand that on some level, but you have to keep in mind after the year that we've had, it's probably more relevant to talk about the global pandemic, the worst recession in history, all the race riots.

02:52:36.000 I think those are the Supreme Court vacancy.

02:52:39.000 Those seem to be the main topics that have been discussed in this debate in the last.

02:52:45.000 And while, of course, immigration is important in the grand scheme of things, with everything that's been going on in this year, those four topics in particular are important.

02:52:53.000 Extremely salient and relevant and topical.

02:52:56.000 So, I think the questions were fine, or the topics were fine.

02:52:59.000 The questions were biased.

02:53:01.000 But that's my overall impression of the debate.

02:53:05.000 But I'll talk a little bit more about it tomorrow after I have a chance to kind of let it marinate.

02:53:10.000 And I'll talk more tomorrow about the media reaction, which we've yet to see, any polling that we might have about the debate, if people are watching it, if there's a focus group or something, and of course, then the TV ratings.

02:53:24.000 But we're going to move on.

02:53:25.000 We'll take a look at our super chats and we'll see what you guys are saying about all of this.

02:53:29.000 I thought it was a great night.

02:53:30.000 I thought it was, you know, it's obviously not as exciting as the presidential debate, but, you know, it's still fun, although it's lower stakes.

02:53:38.000 And I thought we had a really great night.

02:53:40.000 I thought he did fantastic.

02:53:42.000 Almost perfect.

02:53:43.000 Okay, but let's take a look at our super chats and we'll see what you guys are saying about all of this.

02:53:50.000 We had a pretty big audience tonight.

02:53:51.000 Looks like we got up to what, 25,000, which is pretty good. 0.97

02:53:55.000 We've got erectile dysfunction Groyper who says, What's the deal with millennial Matt and e girls? 0.96

02:54:01.000 That's a good question. 0.99

02:54:02.000 You got to ask him about that. 1.00

02:54:03.000 He loves the e girls. 0.99

02:54:04.000 I don't know. 0.95

02:54:06.000 I try to tell him.

02:54:08.000 That's a question for him.

02:54:10.000 Cointel Pepe says, Not worthy to be on the same stage as Pence.

02:54:14.000 Yeah.

02:54:15.000 Clearly, clearly.

02:54:16.000 She was totally outclassed.

02:54:18.000 And that's the word, outclassed.

02:54:20.000 A couple of things.

02:54:21.000 It says people who leave the blinds open at night won't be allowed into the AF compound, right?

02:54:26.000 It shows a flagrant disregard for OPSEC. 1.00

02:54:28.000 Very true, yeah.

02:54:30.000 I get a little autistic with the OPSEC, you know.

02:54:32.000 Blinds closed. 0.99

02:54:33.000 I really like to hunker down.

02:54:35.000 So, yeah, in the AF compound, we have to be.

02:54:39.000 Maybe there won't even be windows in the AF compound. 0.99

02:54:43.000 Maximilian says, what a fucking softball for Harris. 0.99

02:54:46.000 Unbelievable is the first question. 1.00

02:54:48.000 Yeah, the questions were like, why is Trump terrible at coronavirus?

02:54:54.000 And why doesn't he have a plan?

02:54:57.000 Max, I just read that. 0.96

02:54:58.000 Little Drummer Boy says Kamala Harris, that ain't a woman.

02:55:02.000 It's a man, baby. 0.99

02:55:03.000 Biden took it in the butt from Big Mike and Obama. 0.96

02:55:06.000 No wonder his mind ain't right. 0.98

02:55:08.000 Poor Joe.

02:55:08.000 I actually don't think Kamala is a man.

02:55:12.000 I think Mike is a man, but Michael Obama, that is. 1.00

02:55:16.000 But I think Kamala is just a really nasty woman. 1.00

02:55:20.000 Annie says, as a woman, this whore needs to shut up. 1.00

02:55:23.000 Based woman? 1.00

02:55:24.000 Super chatter? 1.00

02:55:27.000 Canyon says, she looks like an iguana, LMAO. 1.00

02:55:30.000 Yeah, she's ugly, and her hair looked terrible. 1.00

02:55:32.000 She overall, very unlikable, ugly, nasty person on the inside and on the outside. 0.99

02:55:40.000 Apologies for the sniffling, by the way. 0.97

02:55:41.000 My allergies are bad today.

02:55:44.000 Based Crusader says, when Pence entered, Deus Vault mode was activated.

02:55:48.000 Yeah, that joke is like five years too late, I think.

02:55:53.000 Hoosier Daddy says, Chad, Hoosier Energy.

02:55:56.000 Very big Hoosier Energy.

02:55:57.000 We love the Hoosiers.

02:55:59.000 Chad Champion says, Let's settle this right now.

02:56:01.000 Lauren Chen or Kathy Zhu?

02:56:04.000 Well, you're putting me in a tough spot here.

02:56:08.000 Because I like Lauren Chen more. 0.99

02:56:10.000 I think she's smarter. 0.90

02:56:12.000 And, you know, I was actually mistaken about her. 0.67

02:56:14.000 Years ago, I did a stream, I did an anti-e-girl stream, and I lumped her in with Allie Stuckey and I think one other.

02:56:22.000 And I have to say that I really misjudged her. 0.97

02:56:26.000 I'm no e girls, but I think that as far as women that are presenting or women in politics goes, I think that roaming millennials is one of the better ones. 0.73

02:56:36.000 And you do tend to have ones that are better or worse. 0.99

02:56:39.000 I am of the belief no e girls, but you do have ones that, I mean, obviously can be good and some that are bad. 0.99

02:56:46.000 But I think that she is a little more based than I initially thought. 1.00

02:56:51.000 I think she gets it.

02:56:53.000 You know, the other day on her show, she was saying that like democracy sucks and she seems to be woke on race and IQ. 0.79

02:56:59.000 You know, she seems to have a pretty good idea. 0.92

02:57:01.000 It's these hoppas, I'm telling you.

02:57:03.000 I am vindicated on this. 0.84

02:57:06.000 It's Michelle, it's Roaming Millennial, it's these.

02:57:11.000 And even Kathy Zhu was kind of based for a minute. 0.90

02:57:13.000 I mean, she's just stone cold crazy.

02:57:15.000 But even she was willing to admit about race and IQ and some other things, you know. 0.77

02:57:20.000 She liked me. 1.00

02:57:21.000 That's based in Red Cold Enough, but she's crazy.

02:57:24.000 But it's these hoppas. 1.00

02:57:26.000 You know what was missing?

02:57:27.000 I don't know.

02:57:28.000 But Michelle, roaming millennial, they seem to have it figured out.

02:57:32.000 There's something going on there.

02:57:34.000 But, you know, Kathy's you. 1.00

02:57:36.000 She's got that appeal because she's crazy. 0.99

02:57:39.000 That's the only thing. 0.97

02:57:40.000 That's part of the appeal. 0.91

02:57:42.000 She's got that crazy, and she's also, I think, closer to my age.

02:57:49.000 And, you know, there's that tension.

02:57:53.000 There's that conflict, which is appealing in some ways, which does sort of draw me in a little bit.

02:58:01.000 I hate to tell you.

02:58:05.000 So, as far as Lauren Chen versus Kathy Zhu, I mean, I like Lauren Chen better.

02:58:08.000 I think she's more based and not crazy, but.

02:58:11.000 Something about Kathy Zhu. 0.65

02:58:13.000 It's like, you know, it's like she's bad.

02:58:15.000 She's bad for you, you know?

02:58:17.000 There's an appeal there.

02:58:19.000 Okay, anyway, anyway, anyway.

02:58:20.000 We don't want to talk about that.

02:58:22.000 That's cringe.

02:58:23.000 BK says, Return of the Boomer.

02:58:25.000 Pence strikes hard and fast.

02:58:27.000 Yep.

02:58:28.000 Thomas says, What's up, King?

02:58:30.000 First super chat.

02:58:31.000 Wanted to thank you for the red pill. 1.00

02:58:33.000 Thought I knew about real conservatism until I realized the people I was watching were Christ killers or closeted homosexuals. 1.00

02:58:39.000 Have some Big Macs on me. 1.00

02:58:40.000 Well, thanks a lot.

02:58:42.000 I know, dude.

02:58:42.000 Same thing happened to me.

02:58:44.000 You know, I grew up my whole life, well, my adolescent years, watching the standard fare for online conservative punditry.

02:58:54.000 And then you realize, I mean, they literally all are gay, atheist, or Jewish.

02:59:03.000 All of them. 0.76

02:59:04.000 In the think tanks, at the Washington Examiner, on the Hill, I mean, they're all, none of them are white, straight, Christian.

02:59:14.000 That is the perception. 0.88

02:59:17.000 But I'm telling you, as somebody that has been in the belly of the beast, I will tell you, virtually all of them are disproportionately atheist, Jewish, or gay, or sometimes all three at the same time. 1.00

02:59:30.000 But like so much faggotry in D.C., I can't even begin to tell you. 1.00

02:59:36.000 I was shocked. 1.00

02:59:37.000 And the more that I got into it, the more of that I saw.

02:59:41.000 I never knew that.

02:59:42.000 You know, when I was in high school and I was in the suburbs of Chicago, how was I supposed to know?

02:59:47.000 I would watch Prager U videos, you know?

02:59:50.000 I'd watch.

02:59:51.000 Truth Revolt originals with Shapiro and Clavin and Bill Whittle.

02:59:55.000 And then the more that I got involved directly in politics when I was in college, and I got involved with Daily Wire and Leadership Institute, and I started going to DC and hanging around e celebrities, it's like, what the heck? 0.99

03:00:09.000 Everyone here is not Christian. 0.52

03:00:11.000 Everyone here, in many cases, not even white. 0.99

03:00:14.000 Many people here are gay. 0.96

03:00:16.000 What's going on? 1.00

03:00:17.000 I thought this was supposed to be right wing or conservative.

03:00:20.000 So.

03:00:22.000 Most people just don't, they literally have no idea.

03:00:24.000 That's the problem.

03:00:25.000 Because they go to these turning point conferences or they watch the usual stuff, and what they present as is what we present as America First, conservative, whatever. 0.99

03:00:35.000 You step a little bit in their world, and it's gay grooming, Jewish lobby, people that don't believe in God, degeneracy. 0.98

03:00:43.000 It's everywhere. 1.00

03:00:45.000 So, anyway, but thanks for that.

03:00:48.000 Maximilian says Harris received a softball and blew it.

03:00:51.000 She only appeals to emotion.

03:00:53.000 Pence responded very well.

03:00:55.000 Mike Pence is a very good debater.

03:00:57.000 I agree.

03:00:58.000 Lil Drummer Boy says Kamala Horace is very hyper and emotional. 0.97

03:01:03.000 She is flying off the hinge.

03:01:05.000 Pence is cool and calm.

03:01:06.000 Perfect optics and balance.

03:01:08.000 I agree.

03:01:10.000 Vince James says, Great coverage.

03:01:12.000 Support Nick in America First.

03:01:13.000 Hey, thank you for the genie, man.

03:01:15.000 I appreciate it.

03:01:16.000 And everybody, please support Vincent James.

03:01:18.000 Go to his channel, dlive.tv slash Vincent James, and give him a follow.

03:01:23.000 This guy's great.

03:01:25.000 And usually before my show, You'll see Vince is streaming or Patrick is streaming, and they've got great content.

03:01:32.000 You know, Kings, fellow Groyper gang.

03:01:36.000 So support Vince too.

03:01:38.000 Jay Ryan says, even Kamala couldn't help but laugh at Pence's Chad plagiarism joke.

03:01:43.000 I mean, Trump is a hoot and a half and based as hell, but Pence is very presidential here.

03:01:47.000 Pence 24?

03:01:49.000 I mean, Pence would be okay, but as far as the substance goes, he is not much different from the establishment, and he's got troubling connections to the neocons.

03:01:58.000 I like Trump as the number two to the Donald Trump presidency.

03:02:05.000 I don't know that I like him as a number one.

03:02:07.000 And I don't know.

03:02:07.000 I mean,.

03:02:09.000 Who knows what the 2024 race will look like?

03:02:11.000 Maybe he'll surprise me.

03:02:12.000 And he's done a really good job as the president's vice president.

03:02:16.000 Could have had a lot worse options.

03:02:18.000 And Pence has been loyal, he's been solid and competent.

03:02:22.000 So I don't really have much negative to say about him as far as that goes.

03:02:25.000 But I will say that his chief of staff has troubling ties with Nikki Haley.

03:02:31.000 And a lot of his staff has these ties with Nikki Haley that made me a little skeptical.

03:02:36.000 So we'll have to see. 0.92

03:02:39.000 Out of credit says, imagine paying to make yourself look that ugly. 0.76

03:02:43.000 Can't imagine.

03:02:44.000 Bob Sacamano says, Pence is really well spoken, but this whole debate really highlights how different Trump is from everyone else. 0.85

03:02:50.000 American politics is so gay and platitudinal without him. 0.67

03:02:53.000 Totally agree. 1.00

03:02:54.000 Yeah, and I've been saying this for years.

03:02:57.000 Trump truly is exceptional in every way.

03:03:00.000 He is different, and he really is not a politician.

03:03:03.000 He really is different from the political beltway class, that group of people.

03:03:08.000 He is different.

03:03:09.000 He's not of them, and you could tell.

03:03:12.000 And a lot of people like to obfuscate that and say, oh, no, he's co opted. 0.77

03:03:15.000 He's just like the rest of them.

03:03:16.000 That has not, and that has never been true. 1.00

03:03:19.000 So, Annie Natt says, if this whore pisses you off, press F. Hoon says, when Trump debates, he's like a sledgehammer. 1.00

03:03:30.000 When Pence speaks, he's like a scalpel. 1.00

03:03:32.000 Epic damage.

03:03:33.000 Yes, blunt and surgical.

03:03:35.000 Very true.

03:03:36.000 Big Rick Savage says, called the police because Mike Pence killed Kamala Harris.

03:03:40.000 Trump 2020. 1.00

03:03:43.000 Annie says, Don't look at Pence like you matter, you stupid slut. 1.00

03:03:48.000 Ugly, grotesque, fish faced pig says, Mike Pence is very good at channeling and focusing his chat energy. 1.00

03:03:54.000 Side question Would you rather eat a bowl of gutter oil bat soup or have chronic halitosis? 0.99

03:04:01.000 What is that? 0.89

03:04:03.000 I don't know.

03:04:04.000 I don't want to look it up.

03:04:05.000 I'm sure it's something gross.

03:04:07.000 Unpleasant odor exhaled in breath.

03:04:10.000 Ooh.

03:04:13.000 Uh. 1.00

03:04:16.000 Probably the bat soup, honestly. 1.00

03:04:19.000 Because coronavirus wouldn't kill you. 1.00

03:04:21.000 It would taste bad one time.

03:04:22.000 And bad breath is terrible.

03:04:24.000 I hate, hate when people smell bad.

03:04:28.000 And I've had some smelly friends in the past, and I don't care for it.

03:04:35.000 I've known a few smelly people, and it just drives me insane.

03:04:39.000 You know, the bad hygiene.

03:04:41.000 It's a lot of things. 0.98

03:04:43.000 You know, some people, it's like I get in their car, and they got shit all over their car, or they got. 0.99

03:04:48.000 People eat and they get shit all over their face and their hands. 0.97

03:04:51.000 And look, I understand that you're eating and it gets a little messy, but promptly, please, promptly wipe your face and your hands. 0.99

03:05:00.000 I don't want to see that.

03:05:01.000 You know, I don't want to smell you.

03:05:04.000 I don't want to see food on your face.

03:05:08.000 I don't want to see junk all over.

03:05:11.000 And I'm not extremely picky, but I just expect a reasonable standard of hygiene.

03:05:16.000 To me, it's like somebody's like abnormal to me if they're not clean in that way.

03:05:20.000 It's a very abnormal thing. 1.00

03:05:25.000 So, I would prefer the bat soup. 1.00

03:05:27.000 Wizard King says, based Pence, more than just carrying his weight tonight, watch every show, Nick. 0.99

03:05:32.000 Never stop.

03:05:33.000 Hey, appreciate that.

03:05:35.000 A couple of things.

03:05:36.000 It says in some parallel universe, Biden will win, step down, and the Secret Service will need to run errands for President Kamala.

03:05:42.000 Here's your birth control and cocoa butter, ma'am. 1.00

03:05:46.000 Little drummer boy says Pence literally dunking on these bitches' faces. 1.00

03:05:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:05:50.000 Susan, shut up while I talk. 1.00

03:05:52.000 Do you think Kamala is microdosing or just high on child's blood? 1.00

03:05:56.000 I think she is just in over her head. 1.00

03:05:59.000 I don't think that she's high. 0.64

03:06:02.000 I think that she's just trying to come off in a certain way.

03:06:05.000 She's just trying too hard.

03:06:07.000 Hater Times says, Who knew Mike Pence was this epic?

03:06:09.000 It shows in stark relief how unprepared Kamala Harris is and how unserious the Democratic Party is. 1.00

03:06:16.000 The tax stuff is weak. 1.00

03:06:17.000 Trump should pay zero dollars.

03:06:19.000 Manga forever.

03:06:20.000 Yeah.

03:06:21.000 Well, and everything that they threw out was fake.

03:06:24.000 The tax return stuff is fake.

03:06:27.000 The coronavirus is a hoax.

03:06:29.000 He never said that.

03:06:31.000 The comments about the troops, fake, except for John McCain, but that was funny.

03:06:36.000 The Charlottesville comments, fake.

03:06:38.000 You know, almost everything that they would, the tax cuts not helping the middle class, fake.

03:06:44.000 Almost everything that they listed was just not true.

03:06:47.000 You know, talk about fact checking.

03:06:48.000 Almost everything they said was a lie.

03:06:53.000 Annie says women in 2020 are not freaking oppressed from a woman. 0.99

03:06:57.000 Well, I'm glad we have the cosign of a woman.

03:07:00.000 As a man, I couldn't say that, but thank God a woman adds a little bit of credibility. 0.97

03:07:05.000 Women be like, well, as a woman, your opinion matters more now. 1.00

03:07:10.000 Wow. 0.99

03:07:10.000 Well, now that we have a woman endorsing it, well, now. 0.99

03:07:13.000 No, I'm just kidding.

03:07:14.000 I'm just teasing you a little bit.

03:07:16.000 I'm just kidding.

03:07:17.000 I appreciate the genie.

03:07:19.000 And you're right.

03:07:19.000 Yeah, and women get it too.

03:07:20.000 Women get it. 0.97

03:07:21.000 Men get it.

03:07:22.000 Women are not oppressed.

03:07:23.000 If anything, men are oppressed. 0.85

03:07:25.000 And white people are oppressed. 0.61

03:07:27.000 And Christians are oppressed. 0.94

03:07:29.000 Gamers, incels, straight people are oppressed.

03:07:34.000 Women are not oppressed. 0.96

03:07:36.000 Blacks are not oppressed. 0.80

03:07:37.000 Jews are not oppressed. 0.99

03:07:38.000 Gay people are not oppressed. 0.50

03:07:42.000 It's totally inverted. 0.61

03:07:43.000 I was about to say a slur.

03:07:45.000 I was about to just drop a slur.

03:07:47.000 I'm so casual tonight.

03:07:49.000 I was about to drop.

03:07:51.000 You know, well, these people aren't oppressed.

03:07:55.000 I got to stop using that word in real life because one time it's going to slip out on the show and then it's over for me.

03:08:02.000 Mike says Derek Chauvin out on $1 billion bail and won't be back in court until March 2021.

03:08:09.000 Let's go!

03:08:11.000 Epic.

03:08:12.000 Gamer Optics says Trump still paid more taxes than Amazon.

03:08:15.000 True.

03:08:16.000 Hater Times says they have the major television networks, every major publication in print, radio, universities, every Fortune 500 company, and the globe on their side, and this is the best they can do.

03:08:27.000 The GOP is really this bad that they lose to the likes of them.

03:08:31.000 Well, I mean, they're not losing, right?

03:08:32.000 I mean, we won in 2016.

03:08:36.000 And so I don't really know what your point is.

03:08:39.000 They've got everything behind them, and yeah, they put up a bad candidate, but that's the only negative that they have for us.

03:08:46.000 The only positive for the GOP is that we have good candidates for now.

03:08:51.000 But in any other election, I mean, yeah, the Democrats have literally every advantage going for them.

03:08:57.000 I don't know how that's like, wow, the GOP can't even beat everything in every power structure in the world.

03:09:03.000 That just goes to show how incompetent they are.

03:09:05.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

03:09:07.000 What a retarded super chat. 1.00

03:09:09.000 BK says, Pence strikes left. 1.00

03:09:11.000 It was super effective. 1.00

03:09:13.000 And he says, women should not be in politics. 1.00

03:09:16.000 F in chat. 1.00

03:09:16.000 Wow, based woman off the chain tonight. 1.00

03:09:20.000 Quantum says, despite the obvious duplicity of the moderator and Harris, Pence remains an intelligent.

03:09:25.000 Articulate shark in a suit.

03:09:27.000 You can see my sister Kamala malfunctioning in real time. 1.00

03:09:31.000 What a joke!

03:09:32.000 Totally agree.

03:09:34.000 Cointel Pepe says Kamala is a joke, and tonight was the big punchline.

03:09:38.000 Big Mike, shut out.

03:09:41.000 Celtics, a schoolboy, fights for America.

03:09:44.000 Crucible, child patriot, American victory, available on Amazon.

03:09:49.000 I don't know what that is. 0.93

03:09:51.000 Gay and fake says Harris must not have tried many cases. 1.00

03:09:54.000 She cannot modulate her expressions or voice. 0.78

03:09:56.000 She quickly ceded to Pence's authority when realizing her error.

03:10:00.000 It was too late.

03:10:01.000 Bad form.

03:10:02.000 Good catch. 0.99

03:10:04.000 Canyon says, You left leaning parasite. 1.00

03:10:06.000 You expect me to sit here and listen to your drivel? 0.99

03:10:11.000 Yeah, that's great. 1.00

03:10:12.000 Saxon says, Kamala's eyes say, I will accuse you of rape and ruin your social life for attention. 0.99

03:10:17.000 She looks exactly like Sam Hyde's expression in that video where he talks about crazy women in his car. 0.99

03:10:25.000 True. 0.91

03:10:26.000 Novacore says, Fox News posted a tweet saying polls show a more favorable view of Harris over Pence, got ratioed by boomers. 0.80

03:10:34.000 Pence absolutely demolished her and showcases Trump's policies in a fantastic light. 0.81

03:10:39.000 Great show, Nick.

03:10:40.000 Thank you.

03:10:41.000 Freakin' John says, I just realized Oprah is not Michelle Obama's nickname, but is in fact a completely separate person who happens to be equally ugly. 0.98

03:10:50.000 Gay and Fake says, Pence is implacable. 0.96

03:10:52.000 Harris is a poor match for his natural authority and gravitas. 0.90

03:10:56.000 Very true.

03:10:57.000 I agree.

03:10:58.000 Dex says, Love the show.

03:11:00.000 Could you reflect on that time you killed the guy named Coach Redpill?

03:11:03.000 It was epic.

03:11:06.000 I don't know.

03:11:07.000 I mean, what's the.

03:11:11.000 What is there to reflect on, really?

03:11:12.000 I mean, that feels like so long ago.

03:11:15.000 That was a few years ago. 1.00

03:11:18.000 And the guy's just a loser. 0.99

03:11:19.000 I mean, the guy was just weak. 0.99

03:11:21.000 So, at the time, I was so belligerent.

03:11:23.000 I was such a belligerent.

03:11:24.000 And even though I was only a couple or a few years younger, and I still just completely dominated him verbally.

03:11:31.000 I mean, just dominated him. 1.00

03:11:34.000 So, the guy's pathetic. 1.00

03:11:35.000 And did he die or something? 1.00

03:11:36.000 Or didn't something happen to him recently?

03:11:38.000 I feel like something bad happened to him.

03:11:40.000 But, yeah, I don't know what else you want me to say.

03:11:43.000 So long ago, I barely even remember it.

03:11:47.000 G Bar says Nobody likes Harris.

03:11:49.000 I thought you could find one enthusiastic supporter. 1.00

03:11:52.000 People will just let her in because she's on the ticket and kind of black. 1.00

03:11:56.000 Seriously, her personality is just bitchy and horrible. 1.00

03:11:58.000 Bought some spooky merch, by the way. 0.98

03:12:00.000 Thanks, Nick.

03:12:00.000 You rock.

03:12:01.000 Well, thanks.

03:12:02.000 I agree with you.

03:12:03.000 And, yeah, if you want to get our brand new Halloween merch, we have got a seasonal Halloween collection, limited time only.

03:12:11.000 We'll probably stop selling it in November.

03:12:13.000 But we have exclusive America First Halloween merch up at nicholasjfuentes.com, as well as the America First flag, as you might have seen on TV this weekend.

03:12:24.000 So you can check that out.

03:12:25.000 Link is down below.

03:12:26.000 Three Halloween designs and the flag.

03:12:29.000 So they're selling like crazy.

03:12:31.000 It's been a huge week for the merch.

03:12:32.000 Everybody loves it.

03:12:34.000 G, I just read that.

03:12:36.000 Maximilian says the ISIS mention was a death blow. 1.00

03:12:40.000 Yeah, that was really good. 1.00

03:12:41.000 That was incredible.

03:12:43.000 BK says, ladies, please, dad's talking.

03:12:46.000 Yeah.

03:12:46.000 A couple of things.

03:12:49.000 It says Black Excellence, Slay Queen, yeah, Salomeo, all right. 1.00

03:12:53.000 Then why don't you rock the nappy headed Afro then? 1.00

03:12:56.000 Okay. 1.00

03:12:57.000 Quantine says she looks like a dry Diddy Kong with a wig on. 1.00

03:13:00.000 Get fucked, bitch. 1.00

03:13:02.000 A dry Diddy Kong? 1.00

03:13:04.000 Okay, thank you.

03:13:06.000 Baguette says her head nodding is so irritating. 0.99

03:13:08.000 Is she feeling smart for reciting pre programmed bullshit? 0.99

03:13:11.000 Or is that a comfort tick to cope with the vice president's rhetorical rape? 1.00

03:13:16.000 I think she's just trying to be, you know, snarky. 1.00

03:13:20.000 It's a snark. 0.81

03:13:21.000 Everything that she's doing is meant to come across to this demographic of white liberals and gay people who are going to be like, Mike Pence could never. 0.95

03:13:31.000 She snapped with that one. 1.00

03:13:33.000 Go off, sis. 1.00

03:13:34.000 I mean, that's what her whole performance is meant to elicit. 1.00

03:13:39.000 Maximilian says, Brianna should have stopped selling drugs. 1.00

03:13:41.000 Yeah.

03:13:42.000 Really good comics. 1.00

03:13:43.000 Says, Black women better watch out. 1.00

03:13:45.000 I'm on the prowl. 1.00

03:13:46.000 Hey, it looks like he's back.

03:13:50.000 International Base Station says, On average, Pence was routinely interrupted at two minutes, earliest 1 38.

03:13:56.000 Harris given maybe 15 to 30 seconds plus on average before being interrupted.

03:14:01.000 Yeah, no surprise there.

03:14:02.000 We all saw it.

03:14:03.000 That was going on throughout the whole debate.

03:14:06.000 Life in Hell says Mike, Bug Zapper Pence was epic tonight.

03:14:09.000 Keep up the great streams, King.

03:14:11.000 Thank you.

03:14:12.000 Q Back says I think the fly was an AI filter like the Tulsi Gabbard disappearing zit during her debate.

03:14:20.000 Definitely possible, honestly.

03:14:21.000 I wouldn't put it past them.

03:14:24.000 Something was not right with that.

03:14:26.000 That seemed like that was definitely sus. 0.99

03:14:29.000 Todd Totterson says Karen Harris' attempt to talk like an urban American are more transparent than Bush's tribal dance. 0.66

03:14:37.000 Yeah, very good.

03:14:38.000 Very timely reference there.

03:14:43.000 BK says, no contest.

03:14:44.000 The resolute boomer stands unchallenged. 1.00

03:14:47.000 And he says, F in the chat for this whore. 1.00

03:14:49.000 So true. 1.00

03:14:51.000 Johnny Bravo says, Electric Mike barbecued this leathery bitch. 1.00

03:14:54.000 America first, baby. 1.00

03:14:56.000 Breonna Taylor is in hell. 1.00

03:14:58.000 Probably. 0.99

03:14:59.000 Timed Out says, WTF, I love Pence now.

03:15:03.000 Ober Groyper says, still voting for Trump. 1.00

03:15:05.000 Shut up, bitch. 1.00

03:15:06.000 Love to hear it. 1.00

03:15:08.000 Polish American Groyper says, hey, Nick, this was a great episode.

03:15:11.000 Mike Pence is the bing to Donald Trump's bong. 0.87

03:15:14.000 One side, you have a woman seducing minority offender. 1.00

03:15:18.000 On the other, you have a gay bashing evangelical. 0.99

03:15:21.000 Yeah, they really are the solar and the lunar. 1.00

03:15:21.000 Dynamic duo. 1.00

03:15:24.000 You've got Trump's radiant, golden, blonde, solar energy.

03:15:31.000 Apollonian.

03:15:33.000 And then with Pence, well, really more Dionysian, if you want to know the truth.

03:15:37.000 Even though that's not technically right.

03:15:40.000 And then with Pence, you've got the white hair, silver fox, fair skin complexion, the lunar, the chthonic energy.

03:15:50.000 They're perfect complements to each other.

03:15:50.000 And they are.

03:15:52.000 The bing to the bong. 0.97

03:15:55.000 Polish American Groyper says, What did your mom say when you told her PAG?

03:15:58.000 She said, Hi, I was doing research and it seems like you and Da Vinci have a lot in common.

03:16:03.000 Both 6'9, Italian, intelligent, and very creative.

03:16:06.000 Keep it up.

03:16:07.000 Thanks.

03:16:08.000 I forget what she said.

03:16:10.000 I'll have to ask her again. 1.00

03:16:12.000 Baguette Groyper says, Is it just me or was the bitch's voice and face on the verge of tears the whole time? 1.00

03:16:17.000 She can save her nervous swallowing for her masters. 1.00

03:16:20.000 No women in politics. 0.98

03:16:22.000 Yeah, she was definitely nervous. 1.00

03:16:24.000 I mean, she struggles.

03:16:24.000 You could tell.

03:16:25.000 She's nervous. 0.70

03:16:26.000 She's inexperienced.

03:16:27.000 She's literally not up to the job. 0.99

03:16:29.000 I mean, she is an inexperienced person. 0.84

03:16:33.000 Is she a freshman senator? 1.00

03:16:34.000 She might have been around a little bit longer.

03:16:36.000 But, I mean, Mike Pence is like a veteran of politics.

03:16:39.000 Donald Trump is 74 years old.

03:16:41.000 Even Biden is an old guy.

03:16:43.000 She is a relative neophyte.

03:16:45.000 She's got no business being in this debate. 1.00

03:16:48.000 Based Scoot God says, Please, everyone, go early life check Kamala and Susan's husbands. 1.00

03:16:54.000 Yeah, based.

03:16:56.000 Kevin Bro says, Not going to lie, I was concerned that Pence's laid back personality would be a liability against Harris, but he came prepared and sincere.

03:17:03.000 I love how he calmly allowed her to give long, non answers, only to double down on the fact that she answered nothing.

03:17:10.000 These moderators are overplaying their hand with the interruptions.

03:17:13.000 Well, thanks for the super chat, Kevin.

03:17:13.000 07.

03:17:15.000 Good to hear from you.

03:17:16.000 I totally agree.

03:17:17.000 I thought that he handled himself really well.

03:17:20.000 And it wasn't even, he wasn't timid.

03:17:22.000 You know, that's the thing.

03:17:24.000 You can be reserved and deliberate and measured without being timid or without being a pushover.

03:17:30.000 And I think that Mike Pence managed to be assertive while also being more calculating.

03:17:36.000 So it was the perfect balance.

03:17:39.000 And you're right, Kamala talked and talked and talked, and Mike Pence was only able to press her, I think, in front of everybody so directly that she had said nothing, you know, that her answers were full of holes.

03:17:51.000 So I thought it was really good.

03:17:53.000 It was a really great exchange.

03:17:54.000 I thought she did really poorly.

03:17:55.000 I think he did really well.

03:17:57.000 Polish American Groyper says, oh, wait, I just read some more about Dame and Coomer Landlord Vinke.

03:18:05.000 Scratch what I said. 0.93

03:18:07.000 Apparently he was a homosexual. 0.99

03:18:08.000 Never mind what I said. 0.96

03:18:10.000 On a different note, when Doomer girl has a simp problem and Coomer Landlord shares her address.

03:18:15.000 Okay, I don't know what any of that means.

03:18:17.000 Diligence's Pence did extremely well this debate.

03:18:20.000 Mm hmm.

03:18:21.000 Owen says, not one question in either debate about immigration.

03:18:24.000 I think under the circumstances, that's to be expected.

03:18:28.000 Enemy AC 130, people are like, what?

03:18:31.000 After a global pandemic, the worst recession in history, a Supreme Court vacancy, and race riots, why didn't they talk about immigration?

03:18:40.000 I mean, really?

03:18:43.000 I don't know, man. 0.96

03:18:44.000 Do people not have a brain? 0.98

03:18:47.000 Enemy AC 130 says, Trump equals WWE, Pence equals John Wick. 0.99

03:18:53.000 That's a good analogy.

03:18:54.000 Dump Lump says, Was it just me or did her voice quiver every time she responded? 0.80

03:18:58.000 Great content and looking forward to the next debate.

03:19:00.000 Thanks.

03:19:01.000 Yeah, she was nervous.

03:19:03.000 Ober Groyper says, Satan the fly attacked Pence the Christian.

03:19:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:19:08.000 Timed Outs is so.

03:19:09.000 These are great super chats, by the way.

03:19:10.000 Really good stuff tonight.

03:19:12.000 Timed Outs is so excited for my AF flag to show up to take up the blank space my Gazden flag occupied.

03:19:19.000 Glad to hear it. 1.00

03:19:21.000 Super Lionheart says, I've noticed women have this idea where in order to be strong, You have to be rude and a jerk. 1.00

03:19:28.000 Pence demonstrated strength and authority while also being gentle. 1.00

03:19:31.000 That is a really good point.

03:19:32.000 That is so true. 1.00

03:19:34.000 Women do believe that, in order, like when they're being assertive, it means being, like you said, rude and standoffish and snarky. 1.00

03:19:44.000 They really have a warped perception of what strength looks like. 1.00

03:19:48.000 That's because women, in that specific way, are not meant to be strong like that. 0.96

03:19:52.000 Women are not meant to assert themselves over men like that.

03:19:56.000 And so when they try to act strong, they're basing this off of sort of an envious perspective of what strength and masculinity looks like. 0.75

03:20:09.000 They're trying to appropriate it, but it's based on this warped perception based on their own envy. 0.96

03:20:14.000 You know, the only women that want to be assertive are women that are like rejecting their nature. 1.00

03:20:19.000 It's out of this sort of like misguided posturing that they want to be strong, and that's why they can't do it effectively. 1.00

03:20:28.000 You know, they're like, oh, I want to be strong like a man.

03:20:31.000 I'm going to pervert my nature.

03:20:33.000 And they end up being, you know, acting like tyrants.

03:20:37.000 They end up acting, like you said, cruel and rude and inconsiderate.

03:20:43.000 So, yeah, that happens all the time. 1.00

03:20:45.000 Well, all women are like that. 1.00

03:20:47.000 They're like, I want to be the boss. 1.00

03:20:48.000 And they think that being the boss means like being a bitch. 0.99

03:20:52.000 Because they, you know, because they have this victim complex that it's like, I've been abused by men and now it's my turn to be the abuser. 0.99

03:21:00.000 You know, they don't want to be strong.

03:21:01.000 It's like, I want my turn.

03:21:04.000 I want to be spiteful because of perceived slights by men.

03:21:08.000 I mean, that's what that's about.

03:21:10.000 Hallelujah, Suspense 2024.

03:21:14.000 I don't know if I go that far just yet.

03:21:16.000 Moth says, Hey, Nick, what do you tell your barber when you get your haircut?

03:21:19.000 LOL.

03:21:20.000 I tell him the usual.

03:21:22.000 Brosif says, Did my first IRL debate this week for the GOP on the Trump debate?

03:21:26.000 I've been more and more involved in local politics.

03:21:28.000 All thanks to your inspiration.

03:21:30.000 Keep up the good work, Nick.

03:21:31.000 Many young men look up to you.

03:21:32.000 Well, thanks a lot, buddy, my good friend Brosif.

03:21:36.000 I appreciate that.

03:21:37.000 And it's good to hear it.

03:21:37.000 Everybody should be doing that.

03:21:39.000 Get involved in the campaign.

03:21:40.000 Get involved in your local GOP.

03:21:42.000 Get involved in your party.

03:21:44.000 Play your cards close to your chest.

03:21:45.000 You know, do not reveal your power level.

03:21:47.000 But Brosif is a.

03:21:49.000 Completely competent and smart guy.

03:21:51.000 I know he's doing great out there. 1.00

03:21:53.000 Thomas says, Kamala's attitude is exactly why black men don't stick around to raise their kids. 0.93

03:21:57.000 Well, that's not exactly why. 1.00

03:21:59.000 Top Stream Champ, you Zoomers keep me young. 1.00

03:22:02.000 Ah, so it's a boomer. 1.00

03:22:03.000 Interesting. 0.72

03:22:04.000 Well, thanks.

03:22:04.000 I appreciate it.

03:22:06.000 Base Crusader says, as Vince said on his show, you can't be Catholic in a Democrat. 0.97

03:22:10.000 Biden and Harris are going to hell.

03:22:11.000 Yeah, you can't be Catholic in a Democrat. 0.98

03:22:13.000 It's true. 0.99

03:22:15.000 Moody Mungo says, Senator Harris, my question to you is, why is Trump so orange and dumb, and why is Biden so much better? 0.99

03:22:22.000 Take all the time you need. 0.99

03:22:23.000 Versus, okay, white boy, what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? 0.81

03:22:27.000 You have 10 seconds. 0.75

03:22:29.000 That's pretty funny.

03:22:30.000 And yeah, it's exactly all played out. 0.96

03:22:32.000 My allergies are fucking pissing me off so much. 0.99

03:22:35.000 Like, I want to put a gun to my head right now. 0.98

03:22:38.000 Not going to, but I can't tell you how irritating it is to constantly be sniffling.

03:22:43.000 That's why I'm a little irritable. 0.99

03:22:45.000 Optics Respector says that anecdote Kamala used to deflect from court packing was a complete bald faced lie.

03:22:52.000 Lincoln's nominee died in October before confirmation, which is why he held off.

03:22:57.000 See, I didn't know that.

03:22:57.000 I don't know the whole story about that, but it doesn't surprise me she would lie.

03:23:02.000 Optics Respector says Tonight in Wisconsin, BLM is literally smashing in the windows of homes in a residential neighborhood.

03:23:08.000 Say goodbye to the suburbs, indeed. 0.98

03:23:10.000 Well, thank you, Black Lives Matter.

03:23:12.000 What a gift to us, right?

03:23:14.000 What a great gift to have four weeks before the election, unless the optics of BLM going into the suburbs and smashing the windows of residential homes.

03:23:25.000 I mean, does it get better than that?

03:23:27.000 And don't get me wrong, I think that is awful and horrible, and they are a menace.

03:23:31.000 But doesn't that kind of prove what we've been saying?

03:23:34.000 All this talk about nonviolent, peaceful protests and racism and so on, and then look at what you get when they're emboldened.

03:23:43.000 So that's perfect.

03:23:44.000 And thanks for the super chats, Optics Respector.

03:23:46.000 I appreciate it.

03:23:48.000 Ben Dover says Kamala was trying to act tough by saying, I'm speaking, but it sounded rude.

03:23:53.000 She also had a voice like she was going to cry in the beginning. 0.87

03:23:56.000 The fly was pretty cringe, though.

03:23:57.000 It's a confirmed Mossad agent. 0.87

03:24:00.000 Funny.

03:24:01.000 That's really funny. 1.00

03:24:02.000 Bob says, Nick's friends confirmed brap hogs. 1.00

03:24:05.000 Okay. 1.00

03:24:06.000 Lucas says, Why is a woman allowed to moderate? 1.00

03:24:09.000 Yeah, great question. 1.00

03:24:11.000 Ugly says, Was quite an entertaining battle tonight. 0.94

03:24:13.000 The holy nits in Mike's hair versus the demon fly. 0.98

03:24:20.000 Roy says, Shout out to my white brothers from the Hong Kong or Eurasian community. 0.96

03:24:24.000 The sunrise always starts in the east. 0.99

03:24:26.000 Here's money towards your next bento box.

03:24:27.000 And good luck, King.

03:24:28.000 Thank you very much.

03:24:29.000 I appreciate it.

03:24:31.000 We love our Eurasian America firsters.

03:24:34.000 We love our Hoppe.

03:24:36.000 And Asian, even, and even just straight up Asian supporters.

03:24:39.000 Paz Tard says Chad Pence performed like Groypers will on that stage over the next 20 years. 0.97

03:24:44.000 AF is inevitable.

03:24:46.000 Yes.

03:24:48.000 International based stations has literally blanked out while the Mossad fly landed on Pence.

03:24:54.000 Pure panic.

03:24:54.000 The media will focus 100% on that one incident to obfuscate Kamala's fall.

03:24:59.000 Very true. 0.65

03:25:00.000 Paleo conservative says when Chauvin gets acquitted, he needs to go on the Tonight Show dressed as Joker, the chauvinist.

03:25:08.000 Okay, thank you.

03:25:10.000 Crunch Top says, Hey, Nick, great show as always. 1.00

03:25:12.000 Had a teacher in high school as condescending as Kamala, both ugly whores. 1.00

03:25:15.000 Coincidence? 1.00

03:25:17.000 I don't know.

03:25:18.000 I just want to throw my head against the wall.

03:25:21.000 Elected Groyper says Kamala said her and Joe are people of faith.

03:25:24.000 Which is she, the faith of her father, her mother, or her husband?

03:25:27.000 All three are different. 0.70

03:25:28.000 Good question.

03:25:30.000 Dumplum says, Never mind.

03:25:31.000 It looks like someone else asked the same question as I did.

03:25:34.000 Have a great night.

03:25:34.000 Well, thank you.

03:25:37.000 FF says she's like a comma.

03:25:39.000 Douglas says drone fly injecting COVID vaccine into Pence's head.

03:25:43.000 Ha ha.

03:25:45.000 Jimbo says, When will we see Nick with a skirt, eyeliner, and painted nails?

03:25:48.000 That's never going to happen.

03:25:50.000 Wooza says, Mr. Vice President, do you believe in the science of climate change?

03:25:54.000 Well, like I said, I believe the climate is changing. 1.00

03:25:56.000 Anyway, this bitch wants to raise your taxes. 1.00

03:25:59.000 Yeah, that was really good. 1.00

03:26:01.000 Miggery says, Pee pee poo poo. 0.99

03:26:03.000 Magacek. 1.00

03:26:04.000 Okay, all right.

03:26:05.000 That is our last super chat.

03:26:10.000 What a great experience.

03:26:11.000 Okay, that's it.

03:26:13.000 That's going to do it for me on the show tonight.

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03:27:04.000 Big shout out to them.

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03:27:18.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

03:27:24.000 It's going to be only America first.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - October 31, 2020

PENCE VS HARRIS VP DEBATE | America First Ep. 697

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