00:00:15.000You can see there's no necktie present.
00:00:18.000We're in a comfy and casual mode here tonight at 10 o'clock.
00:00:22.000I know it's late, but you guys have been asking me for a long time.
00:00:26.000Nick, Nick, when are you going to do Worski?
00:00:29.000Nick, when are you going to get on Andy Worski?
00:00:31.000Nick, when are you going to get on Andy Worski's show?
00:00:34.000And so Andy DM'd me literally right before I was about to get in the shower at around 6 15, I think, and said, Hey, we're doing a show on religion.
00:01:05.000I hope everybody's okay with that decision to delay the show by a few hours, but we are here.
00:01:11.000We're back for America First Friday edition, and there is much to talk about.
00:01:16.000I have to tell you, in the intermission between Worski and right now on the show, I went out to McDonald's, okay, to get a little food.
00:01:24.000I don't know why, but I had a hankering.
00:01:26.000I had a fix in from McDonald's, and I thought to myself, you know, I'm going to go online, I'm going to look at the menu, because usually what happens to me, I don't know if this happens to anybody else.
00:01:36.000But I go to the drive thru and they're very, they're like, okay, what do you want?
00:01:40.000They don't say it like that, but that's how I feel.
00:02:17.000There's some kind of, I don't know what you would call that, Spanglish edition of a hamburger now where they put guacamole on it and tomatoes.
00:02:28.000And they put on like a slice of, I don't know what kind of cheese it is.
00:02:31.000Maybe it's Chihuahua cheese or something.
00:02:34.000And they put in the lime too, which I think is kind of gimmicky.
00:02:37.000So I got that, the buttermilk tenders.
00:03:07.000But we just got done for those who didn't watch with the Andy Worski stream a couple of hours ago.
00:03:13.000I think we wrapped it up at 8 30, about, and it was a debate between, not really a debate, more of a discussion between me, Andy, JF, the distributist, who's, I guess he's a Christian, and another fellow who came in later, the academic agent.
00:03:28.000We talked about God, we talked about religion, we talked about Christianity.
00:04:05.000JF is surprisingly, really a smart guy.
00:04:08.000And I don't mean that in an insulting way, but I didn't really know who JF was.
00:04:13.000But talking to him, he's obviously one of the smarter guys that I've talked to in live streams or in making content, which was pretty impressive.
00:04:40.000But of course, we still have a big show.
00:04:41.000We got to talk about really the only two things we have to talk about here are the DACA deal, which is a big development on that, and the Davos conference in Switzerland, which there's not, I thought that was a little bit overhyped.
00:04:53.000People thought that was going to be a really big thing.
00:04:56.000Turned out not to be such a major thing.
00:04:59.000So of course, today we heard from Chuck Schumer.
00:05:02.000And Mark Rubio and Ted Cruz and many, many others in the House and the Senate that the proposed DACA framework yesterday by the White House, if you recall, we did a show about this yesterday.
00:05:13.000The proposed framework that was given to congressional Republicans and Democrats from a White House staffer was actually drafted by Stephen Miller on what the White House would like to see on their DACA fix.
00:05:24.000So if you remember, the continuing resolution to fund the government passed on Monday, and it gives them three weeks until February 8th to decide what they're going to do about immigration, specifically DACA, and then there will be.
00:05:36.000A way to fund the government because, of course, the Senate needs 60 votes to fund the government.
00:05:40.000Democrats are holding out until we can fix DACA.
00:05:43.000So on Monday, they said, Mitch McConnell, if you promise to negotiate on DACA, then we'll figure something out in the next three weeks.
00:05:51.000It's a race against time now until February 8th when we have another government shutdown if something is not passed.
00:05:58.000And so yesterday, if you recall, there was a framework laid out by Stephen Miller in a conference call from the White House on what the White House would like to see on DACA, what a compromise might look like.
00:06:09.000And a lot of people were very upset about it because it included provisions that would give a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million DACA eligible illegal immigrants in 10 to 12 years.
00:06:21.000So, in 10 to 12 years, 1.8 million of those childhood arrivals would then be eligible to apply for citizenship.
00:06:28.000And many people pointed out that if they committed a crime, they'd be disqualified.
00:06:32.000There are work requirements, education requirements, there's a good character requirement.
00:06:37.000And so, it wouldn't totally be 1.8, but, you know, of course, people are not happy about the fact that they very well could.
00:06:43.000All become citizens in certain scenarios.
00:06:48.000And in exchange for that, the Democrats would have to give $25 billion for a wall and other border security measures to be put in a trust fund.
00:06:55.000They would have to give up the diversity visa lottery system and chain migration.
00:07:01.000And this has been going on for a couple of weeks.
00:07:04.000Those were the four areas that the Republicans and the Democrats wanted to address in this particular bill, which was DACA, chain migration, diversity visa lottery system, and the wall.
00:07:14.000And so President Trump put that proposal out, he floated it out there.
00:07:18.000Yesterday, and a lot of people are very upset about this.
00:07:22.000And I pointed out, as I have always, that the exact same thing happened in September.
00:07:28.000The exact same thing happened in September.
00:07:31.000A note comes out of Chuck Schumer's office saying Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Trump have reached a deal to give the DOC recipients legal protections in law, and no wall would be required for that concession.
00:08:25.000This is, and I predicted yesterday both sides would reject it.
00:08:29.000And so the announcement today out of Chuck Schumer, out of Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, other Senate and House leaders, that they reject the deal.
00:08:47.000Forget about childhood arrivals and DACA.
00:08:49.000I mean, so you have the Dreamers, which are the childhood arrivals, and that's a much broader umbrella group.
00:08:55.000Then you have DACA within it, and DACA.
00:08:57.000There are work requirements, education requirements, you know, there's all kinds of other restrictions.
00:09:01.000That's why there's only 690,000 DACA recipients compared to something like 3 million Dreamers, which are the childhood arrivals.
00:09:09.000Marco Rubio, in, I believe it was 2013, in the Gang of Eight, wanted to give amnesty to regular illegal immigrants, let alone Dreamers, let alone DACA.
00:09:20.000So at least with Dreamers, they're childhood arrivals.
00:09:54.000But you understand that Mark Rubio wanted to give amnesty to adults that chose.
00:09:58.000To came here out of their own volition, violate the law, take welfare, abuse the system, and so on, let alone the childhood, let alone the DACA, where there's extensive requirements.
00:10:08.000And Marco Rubio says this deal is no good.
00:10:18.000I, you know, and I'm kind of getting stale.
00:10:21.000I'm tired of winning, to be quite honest.
00:10:23.000I was going to get on and gloat about it and be kind of, and really give.
00:10:29.000Give everybody the business for doubting me again, you know, in such a short frame of time and then being proven wrong in such short a time.
00:10:36.000But it's like at this point, I just want people to stop being dumb.
00:10:40.000At this point, there just should be an expectation with people that you stop and you think and you consider events in their context.
00:10:49.000And I tweeted a little bit about this, a little cryptically, last night, early morning, I guess you could say today, where I said, you know, the big difference between successful people, smart people, wise people, people that exert Influence over events, people that are in control of their situation.
00:11:07.000There's a totally different approach to events than the rest of people in the sense that we have been conditioned, I believe, by a combination of the media, education, all kinds of these institutional things have conditioned us to be reactive.
00:11:24.000In that we hear something that President Trump says and we just react to it.
00:12:08.000Some compare him with Sun Tzu, some compare him with Clausewitz in terms of his influence on military strategy.
00:12:15.000And he wrote as a successful fighter pilot about a decision making process called the OODA loop, which is observe, orient, Decide and act.
00:12:24.000And this is a decision making process.
00:12:27.000And he used this model to describe what it's like in the battlefield, what it's like in a military situation, and who is able to decide who comes out on top in these conflicts, or even a chess game it could be applied to, in the sense that when you make decisions, when you make an action in an aerial confrontation with a plane, for example, first you observe what's happening, you observe what the move is, maybe by the other fighter pilot, you observe what the move is in a chess game.
00:12:55.000You observe a tactical decision in a war.
00:12:58.000You essentially use your senses to see what's going on, to gather information.
00:13:21.000Orientation is also a process of analysis by saying, well, this is the motivation, this is the incentive, this is where it's going, this is the cause of it.
00:13:29.000The third step is to decide, well, what am I going to do now?
00:13:47.000And so one of the reasons why Donald Trump, and this is a little bit of a detour, but one of the reasons why Donald Trump, just to illustrate, is so successful in politics is because his loop is faster than everybody else's.
00:14:05.000He makes decisions faster and more intuitively, more instinctually.
00:14:09.000And of course, he is great at executing them.
00:14:11.000He's competent at executing decisions.
00:14:14.000And so, this is one of the reasons why Donald Trump is such a brilliant strategist because he is able to observe the situation with very good clarity, to orient it with very good intuition, to make sound decisions, and then to competently execute them.
00:14:28.000And so, to get back to the analysis part of it, People hear things.
00:14:33.000They just have this emotional response.
00:15:15.000And now I jump immediately to just bluster.
00:15:18.000I am just going to run right in this situation.
00:15:21.000I'm going to tweet about it, I'm going to condemn, I'm going to jump off the Trump train, I'm going to burn my MAGA hat.
00:15:27.000And this is a force more broadly has to be stopped.
00:15:30.000But particularly, I think this is the cause of why people, there should be an expectation among people that you hear things.
00:15:37.000And then you think about them, you know, then you think about it for a moment.
00:15:40.000And I get that people, look, if it was true, if amnesty was happening, if I consciously thought about what I heard yesterday and it made sense to me given my orientation of the facts and my decision on what explanation was probably correct, if I determined through a conscious process that this was a likely, a probable, or a plausible outcome, I'd be right there with you.
00:16:02.000I would be deciding and I'd be acting on it to try and thwart whatever it is that is going on.
00:16:09.000And that might be splintering off, that might mean, you know, lighting up.
00:16:13.000The switchboards at the White House and mobilizing support, right?
00:16:32.000And this conforms to the theory I posited yesterday, which is that Trump is pushing the Democrats to give him all these concessions.
00:16:39.000And if they don't, well, then they will lose.
00:16:42.000They will lose DACA and they will lose their far left base and they'll get killed in the midterms.
00:16:46.000And so the prediction would be that this bipartisan thing that they're working on in the Senate, born of the Senate, it's not going to work.
00:17:10.000But I just think moving forward, what more is there to say to these people that instinctively, or not instinctively, impulsively, Emotionally, reactively, are going to throw in the towel that we're done with politics, we're done with electoral politics, we're done with Trump because they hear something they don't like.
00:18:22.000When he rolls up to NATO and he shows up to the.
00:18:27.000Pacific Conference that he went to when he went to APEC.
00:18:31.000That was certainly the persona that he put on, which is the America first, but not America alone, kind of these snide little quips and snipes at the international elite.
00:18:42.000But beyond that, I mean, this is pretty much standard Trump here.
00:18:46.000I know people are kind of expecting this big, oh, F you, this and that, but pretty uneventfully, when he gave a speech about how America is going to put their interests first, it's not America alone.
00:18:58.000And, you know, how good America's doing with her tax cuts and all the rest, but pretty standard stuff.
00:19:08.000I wanted it to be a big happening, but, you know, I guess that didn't happen so much.
00:19:13.000There was talk about a lot of new investment coming into the country that President Trump said he may have enticed or negotiated while he was over there, which is very encouraging.
00:19:22.000And you have to say that not only is Donald Trump doing okay in the economy, like not only is he.
00:19:30.000Outperforming the expectations, but I mean, we're reaching new heights that wouldn't be possible with a regular president, with a standard president.
00:19:38.000You know, I mean, when you imagine what has been achieved in the context of what people thought would have happened with this president, it is nothing short of miraculous.
00:19:49.000Because if you remember the rhetoric, even in the Republican primary, but also in the general election, the rhetoric was what happens when Donald Trump is president?
00:20:11.000And not only did the economy not crash, not only is he not doing a bad job, he's doing a better job, maybe, than any president in U.S. history.
00:20:20.000He talked about the other day in Davos, which I didn't even realize this.
00:20:24.000I didn't even realize this was correct.
00:20:26.000But President Trump said yesterday that his administration has cut more regulations than any other administration in American history.
00:20:52.000More than Roosevelt, more than Ronald Reagan, who'd served for eight years, more than Bill Clinton, who'd served for eight years, more than Barack Obama.
00:21:00.000I mean, people that served for eight years or four years, and Donald Trump has cut more regulations and less, or a little bit over one year.
00:21:08.000You look at the GDP growth, where it's been over 3% for the past three quarters, looking like 2.6% for this quarter because of trade, which is being negotiated.
00:21:42.000So I look at this conference, and the takeaway is not so much kind of the standard speech that he gives, but really just to sit back and And take a step back a little bit, you know, because we get involved in the news cycle and the horse race and all of that.
00:21:56.000But to take a step back and put it all in context and say, wow, look at all that has been achieved here.
00:22:02.000Look at all that has been done in such a short amount of time and compare it to what people expected to happen.
00:22:11.000This is why they're terrified of Trump, because Trump goes to show that we don't need the political class.
00:22:19.000Donald Trump is a refutation of the idea.
00:22:22.000that you need somebody like Barack Obama who goes to law school and who's a congressman and who's a bureaucrat and who has all this expertise, that we need people like that to run the country, that we need people like that to run the government and run our lives.
00:22:35.000And so that's why they're terrified of this guy because Donald Trump goes to show we don't need the Republican Party.
00:22:49.000And that's why they fear him because he represents all of that That populist animosity towards this ruling class that has said to us for 30 years, you know, you pay us our tribute, you pay your tithe to the government, you surrender your rights to us, you basically understand that this is the way it goes, and the House always wins.
00:23:08.000And in exchange, we benevolently govern you.
00:23:10.000We benevolently use our skills, which are unique and necessary, to govern you and make sure that you are safe under our thumbs.
00:23:18.000And Donald Trump says, you know, no, we don't need any of that.
00:23:21.000We can govern ourselves, we can have a businessman.
00:24:04.000So who really, you know, I should have soda pop in my mug for the occasion.
00:24:10.000You know, whereas somebody else might be drinking this evening, you know, not my style, but the water's a little bland for such an exciting Friday night.
00:24:33.000I remembered all the terrible things that happened.
00:24:35.000You know, it's funny because I feel like by 2100, there'll be more Holocaust museums than McDonald's.
00:24:42.000I feel like in 2100, The year 2100, it'll be easier to find a Holocaust museum on your street corner than a Starbucks or a Dunkin' Donuts or, you know, any other, like a 7 Eleven or even a gas station.
00:24:56.000I feel like they'll just take over because at the rate at which they're opening new ones, it feels like if you go out to Boise, Idaho, or if you go out to Bismarck, North Dakota, it feels like in some of these places they build a Holocaust museum before they build a fire station or before they build a police department or before they build, I don't know, a cellular tower.
00:26:21.000I'm drawing a blank because it was a while ago.
00:26:24.000But we studied all these ancient texts and we read The Republic, for example.
00:26:29.000And in it, Plato talks about eugenics, essentially.
00:26:33.000And we were in a discussion section for this class where, you know, you had your lecture section where they told you about the book and you went home and you read it.
00:26:40.000And then every week there was like a three hour discussion section where you got into the thick of it and you got into these debates about the books we were reading.
00:26:48.000As we were reading The Republic and the subject of eugenics came up, And everybody just kind of dismissed it, like, oh, eugenics.
00:26:58.000I said, it's not just Plato who said eugenics might be a good idea, but also Arthur Schopenhauer talked about eugenics.
00:27:05.000Schopenhauer wrote that if we bred the most intelligent and the strongest men with the most beautiful women, we would have a generation that surpassed that of Pericles.
00:27:50.000Why can we not even have a discussion about eugenics?
00:27:53.000If it's inarguably wrong, which I'm not a eugenicist, believe me, I'm a Catholic, I don't believe in eugenics.
00:28:00.000But if we can't even stop and have the discussion of why it's wrong and learn from this because Hitler.
00:28:07.000If we can't even have a discussion about a white supermajority in the country or having pride in your race or the racial differences in intelligence because Hitler, because Nazis, uh oh, you're talking about the beauty of the white race?
00:28:34.000You know, and I've seen this before, you can see the same example with slavery.
00:28:38.000Where you try to have a dialogue between white and black people about things like racism or about things like, you know, white supremacy or other political affairs, and it always comes back to, uh huh, yeah, well, slavery.
00:28:50.000I was watching a video the other day, I forget what it was, but that was exactly the argument.
00:28:56.000It was some shitlib, it was some BuzzFeed or Vox shitlib who was watching some conservative video, and an argument was being made, and they said, slavery, though?
00:29:08.000And you have to understand how these, and when I say myth, I hesitate to use the word myth because we don't want to be in the business of denying things.
00:29:18.000But mythology, in the sense of stories that convey values, very powerful historical and traditional stories that convey more complicated truths about our world.
00:29:31.000We have to be very introspective about these myths that define our political discourse.
00:32:02.000And Protestants can brush this off and say, oh, well, there was a scandal in the church, or there's corrupt people in the church, all of which there are answers for, by the way.
00:32:11.000But they cannot brush off the fact that their theology is a pile of sand.
00:32:18.000And that's why we want them to come home.
00:32:21.000We want them to come home to the church.
00:32:23.000The church is much bigger on the inside than it appears on the outside, in the words of Chesterton.
00:32:30.000But I addressed this literally on yesterday's show.
00:32:34.000And all the time on Discord, people are always asking in the Discord, I'll be playing Minecraft.
00:32:38.000I'll be playing Civ 5 with all these high schoolers in the Discord, and you'll get some Gen Xer who jumps in.
00:32:45.000Nick, so what's your problem with Protestantism?
00:32:48.000It's like, oh, I'm just trying to mine some andesite here.
00:32:51.000I'm just trying to mine some diorite and build my carrot farm, all right, in Minecraft.
00:32:56.000I'm not really looking to get into Thomistic theology, I'm not really trying to get into the Aristotelian causes or anything like that, so.
00:33:05.000Rick Smith, what are your thoughts on evolution?
00:33:07.000I talked about this on the Worski stream just a couple of hours ago, which is, I don't know enough about it to make a definitive judgment, but I am skeptical.
00:33:50.000I'm not saying I don't believe in evolution.
00:33:51.000I'm saying I don't know the whole story and I'm skeptical of it.
00:33:54.000But you have the masses, you have the unwashed masses, the mob, who, if you go out there, and this is among even my friends, where I'll be sitting around the fire and these bigger topics come up, and I'll say, yeah, I'm a little bit skeptical.
00:34:07.000How do you explain biogenesis, for example?
00:34:12.000How does a complicated organism like a cell arise from inanimate objects?
00:34:19.000How does that arise from the primordial stew?
00:34:21.000And then you look in the cell and you look at things like the mitochondria, you look at things like DNA, you look at things like all the complicated organelles within the cell, within the smallest unit of life.
00:34:34.000And you say, what, this all just came together?
00:34:49.000And these are my valid skepticisms and criticisms, admittedly from a less than educated position.
00:34:54.000But then you get people who they have not read On the Origins of Species by Darwin, they have not read any of the literature about evolution, they haven't seen the evidence.
00:35:03.000And they'll say, Oh, you don't believe in evolution?
00:36:22.000I think he should stick to pharmaceuticals.
00:36:24.000He's obviously a genius in the sense of his specialty, which is medicine.
00:36:29.000Which is chemistry, which is, I think he's learning coding as well.
00:36:32.000But the political stuff, it started to fall off a little bit for me.
00:36:36.000The way he was talking about universal health care, the way he talked about China.
00:36:43.000And this is the problem, I think, with smart people.
00:36:45.000This is the problem with Noam Chomsky, for example, where they're very smart.
00:36:49.000And Thomas Sowell observes this as well the problem of intellectuals, where they're very smart in their specialized field, and they think that gives them license to pontificate in all other areas.
00:36:59.000Well, because if I'm going to chemistry, If I'm good at linguistics, in the case of Noam Chomsky, well, I have something to say about politics now.
00:37:06.000Or Neil deGrasse Tyson, I'm an astrophysicist.
00:37:09.000I have something intelligent to say now about politics.
00:37:12.000And it was just kind of, I don't know.
00:37:14.000So I don't agree with his politics, but I think he's a very smart guy.
00:37:35.000You know, I'm kind of interested in doing this.
00:37:37.000I want to go in, I want to do a little advanced search on Twitter.
00:37:41.000And I want to, now that we know that the DACA deal fell through, now that we know that that all happened, let's go do a little bit of history here.
00:37:53.000And we'll see what was being said here on DACA a week ago.
00:40:06.000I thought we were going to be able to do a little gloating stream.
00:40:08.000I thought we were going to be able to look at all the people that doubted a couple of weeks ago, but it looks like the boomer technology is not quite out of the wilderness here, unless we're able to see one here, but I don't think so.
00:40:23.000It's not working the way I intended it to, but that's all right.
00:40:27.000I guess we'll just go into the live chat.
00:42:56.000James Alsop called me Nazbol during the Trad Thought controversy.
00:42:59.000When I said that Tara McCarthy was being divisive and was causing drama in the movement and, you know, whatever the hell you want to say, James Alsop said, Nick, you're helping Nazbol.
00:43:22.000And so he accused me of being a national Bolshevik, which is very interesting because the founder of the National Bolshevik Party in the 1990s in Russia was a man by the name of Alexander Dugin.
00:43:36.000And you know who happens to be a really good friend of Alexander Dugin?
00:43:40.000You want to know who's a really close friend of Alexander Dugin?
00:43:43.000The founder of Nasbol, which is, in the words of James Alsop, subversive and wants to destroy the movement.
00:43:49.000Oh, yes, a good friend of Dugan is Richard Spencer and his wife.
00:43:55.000So, on the one hand, you had people accusing me of being Nasbol.
00:44:01.000I'm subverting the movement on the order of the Nasbol irony bros.
00:44:06.000And at the same time, those people were worshiping Richard Spencer, who had Alexander Dugan Skype in to his Texas AM speech, who published Dugan's books, who his wife translated Dugan's books, where they've been to conferences together.
00:44:20.000He publishes Dugan's articles on his website.
00:44:23.000And so, for all these people that have a problem with Nasbol, where the hell's your problem with Richard Spencer?
00:45:13.000It's funny because the Catholic Church, a lot of the criticisms of capitalism that the alt right has, the Catholic Church has had these criticisms for 500 years, for a millennium, you know?
00:45:24.000So the alt right takes issue with like international finance, takes issue with money moving.
00:45:33.000They're okay with industrialists broadly, but they take issue with the banks, the Federal Reserve, fractional reserve banking, high interest rates, things like this.
00:45:44.000And the Catholic Church has been right on this for a thousand years.
00:45:47.000The Catholic Church has been right on distributism for 200 years, which is a lot of the labor rhetoric that you hear from the alt right.
00:45:54.000So usury is a sin, and this is one of the excesses of capitalism.
00:45:58.000We should have a system that, you know, it doesn't reward people for simply moving money around.
00:46:03.000I doubt George Soros making a billion dollar bet on the pound is what John Locke had in mind when he talked about natural rights and property rights and life, liberty, and property.
00:46:20.000These people talk about free market economics, and then the most important component of capital, the most important type of capital in the economy, which is media of exchange, which is currency, is controlled by the government.
00:46:31.000And not only is it controlled by the government, but by a very small group of people within the government that exercise a lot of control.
00:46:39.000Ben Shapiro, I'm a free market capitalist.
00:46:41.000Oh, except for the most important type of capital in the economy.
00:46:45.000In that case, I am for the complete and total control of it by a small, unelected group of bureaucrats, which is, of course, money, which is, of course, the dollar.
00:46:54.000And look at how the dollar functions fractional reserve banking.
00:47:54.000You could say maybe that's usury in the sense that if you want to get your transactions cleared in a limited, in a small amount of blocks, you have to give a pretty decent transaction fee these days on Bitcoin.
00:48:07.000So maybe you could say that's the case.
00:48:09.000Although I don't know, that's kind of an incentive for people to be processing those or verifying those transactions.
00:50:37.000Discussion in social contract about this relationship, this ratio between the governed and the government, this distinction between the government as the state and the sovereign as the people.
00:50:49.000I mean, there's a lot of interesting things, a lot of useful concepts in Rousseau.
00:50:54.000There's a lot of useful concepts in Voltaire, a lot of useful concepts in Locke, in Hume, in a lot of these philosophers.
00:51:01.000So I would never tell people, and I guess, and you said English, you know, technically Locke.
00:51:07.000Is Scottish, and a lot of them are Scottish as well.
00:51:10.000I believe, yeah, he was Scottish, right?
00:51:12.000So, but it could never hurt you with reading more philosophy.
00:51:16.000It always gives good perspective on things.
00:53:53.000This universalism that we've adopted, do you really want to defend that record?
00:53:57.000Is that a useful tradition that you're going to defend?
00:54:00.000We can certainly have the Protestant work ethic.
00:54:02.000We can certainly have an individualist element in our economy and also embrace Catholicism, which would, I think, lend itself to communitarianism, to authority, to hierarchy.
00:54:12.000So you can't have your cake and eat it too.
00:54:14.000These alt riders are a little bit more subversive sometimes than others.
00:54:19.000Spoiler alert usury is charging excessive interest.
00:54:22.000This is the new definition that Jews argued for.
00:54:24.000For over a thousand years, usury was charging interest at all.
00:54:28.000I'm not sure if that's totally true, but I certainly believe that some interest is, of course, necessary if you're going to.
00:54:35.000Why would you have incentive to loan money at all if there was no interest?
00:54:45.000Well, it's the one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
00:54:50.000And when it says universal, it means it's for all men.
00:54:52.000That doesn't mean that, you know, people have this weird thing, and I just explained this on the Worski stream.
00:54:57.000People have this weird conception that because there are Catholics in the third world, that that means that you have to embrace immigration if you're a Catholic.
00:55:08.000Therefore, they have to come into our country by the millions.
00:55:11.000Yeah, that's not quite a logical bridge, right?
00:55:15.000You had Catholics for thousands of years that had walls, that had closed borders, that fought Saracens, that there was an Inquisition, right?
00:57:06.000A lot of people, and that's funny, I get a bad rap.
00:57:09.000I get a bad rap for starting drama and calling people out.
00:57:12.000And what the hell was that with the old hype the other day?
00:57:14.000If you look in every one of these cases, I'm never the one to start things.
00:57:18.000And it's funny because people will say, Nick, You always start drama, and that's a problem.
00:57:23.000And I'll say, okay, but if you look at actually, if you actually look at every case where there's been trouble, I actually didn't start it.
00:57:30.000And then people say, well, it doesn't matter who started it, you're just always surrounded by drama.
00:57:37.000Is it I always start drama, or it doesn't matter who started it?
00:57:40.000Because, you know, the Tara McCarthy thing started with her DMing me an ultimatum.
00:57:45.000The Millennial Woes feud started with him DMing me saying, you're disinvited from my stream, and you're harming the movement, and you're being used by Nasbul, and on and on.
00:57:54.000The thing with the old hype, I had no problem with him until he commented on James Alsop's video saying, Yeah, Nick doesn't do shit, even though he doesn't even know me.
00:58:02.000And then he comes at me, guns a blazing on Twitter.
00:58:05.000You know, I have never had a problem with Mark Collette.
00:58:08.000I have never had a problem with Paul Nealon.
01:00:55.000I would just say Richard Spencer made a very bad mistake calling me that evening, a very impulsive, bad mistake, symptomatic of somebody who should not be leading a serious political movement.
01:01:06.000And so I'd say, Richard Spencer, the ball's in my court, and you better hope and pray in your own words that I am merciful.
01:03:58.000Insofar as the movement impedes progress on the issues, insofar as the movement impedes the cause, count me out.
01:04:08.000Spoiler alert Pope Benedict XIV's encyclical says one cannot condone the sin of usury by arguing that the gain is not great or excessive, but rather moderate or small.
01:06:07.000Nick, those Revenge of the Sis guys were spreading shit about sticks when they called out, and when they were called out, they acted like little cucks.
01:06:13.000Okay, I'm not privy to all this drama.
01:06:56.000What would convince you to have an anime profile pic on Twitter?
01:06:59.000I will never have an anime profile picture.
01:07:02.000It just is something that is not done.
01:07:04.000I mean, people who change their profile pictures, I think, are kind of silly.
01:07:07.000You want consistency to build a brand, to build, and people make fun of the use of the word brand, but I mean, it's about building some kind of reliability in the sense that you see the profile picture, you see the handle, and you know who it is.
01:07:20.000You know that's Nick, you know that's, and it's kind of becomes associated with your persona.
01:07:25.000You know, I used to take issue with when James Alsop would change his profile picture and change things on his profile, and he would do all those different emojis like Spencer because it detracts from the brand.
01:07:36.000You know, Donald Trump, part of what makes the Twitter so iconic is the picture.
01:11:31.000He's a 40 year old man and I'm a 19 year old boy.
01:11:35.000So there's a little bit of a physiological difference.
01:11:38.000I mean, in normal times, young men are lanky.
01:11:41.000They're skinnier, you know, if we're not living in clown world, if not ballooning up to 1,000 pounds.
01:11:47.000I mean, is there something, maybe if there's something wrong with a 40 year old man calling a 19 year old boy up at midnight drunk to threaten him, maybe there's something wrong even in the question, but who knows?
01:12:39.000That if you go to somebody's house for like a party on a Friday night and they're a political leader, you'd think you'd see other adults there.
01:12:46.000If they're a leader of a serious political movement, you'd think you'd see other adults, donors, grown men.
01:13:17.000It appears like they have in a de facto way because, you know, there have been some low IQ commentators and some manlets, but it still stands strong.
01:13:26.000250 IQ, you have to be 6'9, or at least 6', I think was the initial requirement.
01:13:38.000Was Spencer's lisp more strong when drunk?
01:13:40.000It was actually what made it less threatening.
01:13:43.000I mean, if somebody else had called me up at midnight, if Evan McLaren called me up at midnight, first of all, if Evan McLaren called me, I would be very scared because of what he tweeted about how he's eerily calm.
01:13:55.000So if Evan McLaren ever called me, well, no, he has a lisp too, so that wouldn't really work.
01:13:59.000But if somebody like Carolus Rex called me, that would be a little bit intimidating because that's a big guy.
01:14:08.000And so that, I would be, you know, I would still.
01:14:11.000It would still be funny to me, but it would be a little bit, I don't know.
01:14:14.000But that was kind of the one thing that made it, I think, not actually a threat because it was this goofy, like, I don't even want to repeat some of the things, but it was his usual.
01:15:18.000Because people take themselves too seriously.
01:15:20.000If people were like memes about themselves, like notice Paul Nealon never, like he is a leader because he never gets into the mud on this stuff.
01:15:30.000And that's because he doesn't take himself too seriously.
01:17:26.000How did you get kicked out of Spanish?
01:17:28.000Well, look, okay, it's a long story, but basically, I didn't show up to like six classes.
01:17:33.000I missed like six classes in the first month.
01:17:36.000And to be fair, there was no requirement.
01:17:38.000It never said you have to attend this many classes.
01:17:41.000It never said attendance was a part of your grade.
01:17:45.000So I assumed I was in the right to miss six classes.
01:17:49.000But so my Spanish teacher, who is this total beta orbiter soy man, he emails me and he's like, You missed six classes and therefore it's impossible for you to pass.
01:17:59.000You've basically earned yourself an F, which is impossible.
01:18:02.000You know, even if you were, and I looked at the requirements, even if there was a way you can interpret it that attendance would count.
01:18:08.000Compared to how many classes there were in the total semester, six was nothing.
01:18:16.000Anywho, I missed six classes, and the guy emails me that.
01:18:19.000And this was right after a big debate ripped across the class.
01:18:24.000I was actually in class the day of the inauguration, and of course, a big debate ensued about Donald Trump and Mexicans and women and everything else.
01:18:32.000And I think that had something to do with it.
01:19:15.000Some classes you can miss, some classes you can't.
01:19:18.000I missed probably 50% of the classes in African politics and I still got an A. You know, I missed 50% of the classes in a lot of my courses and I still pulled off an A.
01:19:30.000So, didn't get so lucky in the science class.
01:21:08.000We didn't have to do it in 1789 when the Constitution was ratified because it was a given that this would be a European, white, Christian, patriarchal society.
01:21:18.000But now when we're under siege by communists, socialists, Marxists, Judeo-Marxists, feminists, Third worlders, we have to, I think, set forth a definition.
01:21:29.000I think it's no longer redundant to do that.
01:21:38.000It's less about looks and more about the personality because there are some people, some of these women, beautiful women, don't get me wrong, but you just want to say some nasty things to them.
01:21:51.000So it's really, and I know that's a very gay answer, I know.
01:21:55.000But I guess if we're talking about if the personality is a given, if she's funny, if she's tolerable, if she shuts the hell up every now and again, you know, if she makes.
01:22:03.000Good meatloaf, if she makes good pasta fajoule, if she makes good lasagna, and all of that is a given, and she understands that she's going to raise the kids.
01:22:13.000If that's a given, then I would say the ideal would naturally height come into play, shorter than me.
01:22:21.000There's no room for somebody that's here, okay?
01:22:23.000There's no room for somebody that's up here, all right?
01:22:26.000So we start with I think this is an appropriate height.
01:25:49.000I talk to people at a Christmas party, I talk to people outside, I talk to people who are not involved with politics, I talk to people at family parties, family friends.
01:27:26.000And after all these calls, it just, I don't know if it seems totally right, but that was one of my biggest criticisms.
01:27:32.000I mean, I didn't even realize to what extent our show.
01:27:35.000Was a carbon copy of the right stuff until I started to listen to some of the right stuff at the behest of James.
01:27:41.000He would send me podcasts from Fashion the Nation, Daily Shoah, and I'd give it a listen for 15 minutes.
01:27:45.000And then I started to notice a pattern.
01:27:48.000That funny joke he does when he pronounces the Jewish names in a wild voice, that's actually a segment on one of the shows called The Merchant Minute.
01:27:57.000You know, that funny joke that he does when he says donation instead of donation?
01:28:01.000Oh, that's a funny joke that's on TRS.
01:28:03.000That little segment that he has called Diversity Report 2050 that's actually the Europa Report.
01:28:10.000From TRS and on it's like, I don't know, I just, is that the kind of show that you want to do?
01:28:18.000It became very apparent to me towards the end that James wanted to be a part of something that existed and I wanted to create something new.
01:28:26.000James wanted to get invited to the pool parties, the TRS pool parties, which exist.
01:28:31.000He wanted to hang out at the Hate Lair.
01:28:33.000He wanted to hang out and rub shoulders with the big fellas in the movement.
01:28:37.000He wanted to be a part of something that existed.
01:28:39.000And that's fine, that's fine, but I wanted to create something new.
01:28:42.000And that became clear with the Richard Spencer thing, our podcast with him.
01:28:46.000That became clear with the Trad Thought thing.
01:28:49.000He didn't want to stake a claim, he wanted to join the rest.
01:28:53.000And you know, as Kanye West infamously said, there's leaders and there's followers.
01:29:02.000People call me a jerk, people call me an ass.
01:29:06.000Okay, well, I'd rather be that than brown nosing, to I guess describe it a little bit more euphemistically.
01:29:14.000You know, and there's a great quote I retweeted by Kissinger today, which said that the mark of a leader is that he has to be willing to stand alone sometimes.
01:33:46.000But now it's like he knows how to cook, he fixes cars, he's got money, he's got a family, he gets cucked by his wife, and he keeps the kid anyway, and he doesn't do a DNA test.
01:35:03.000And I don't pretend to be anything more than that, which is a YouTube host, hosting a show.
01:35:09.000But if you are trying to lead people, if you're trying to tell people, buy into my idea of what the nation should look like, buy into my reforms, I know better what the country should look like.
01:35:19.000It should be the ethnostate, it should be this.
01:35:23.000And you're making drunk calls at midnight, and people get shot at your rallies, and you have people that don't know what to do with themselves that come to your event.
01:35:31.000You have a rally, and people get killed there, and we're supposed to follow you and your vision for the country.
01:35:38.000I'm sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense.
01:37:49.000They know what I can bring to the movement, and they are willing to cut me off, to push me away, to do this kind of a thing because it's about protecting their own credibility.
01:38:02.000It's about protecting their own clout, which is low.
01:39:34.000So, for people that say, for people that take it as their obligation to give me their unsolicited advice, like, I need to save you by nagging the shit out of you, trust me, I hear it.
01:40:21.000I think for a lot of people that are already initiated into the movement, we move past a lot of the entry level stuff and we start reading the source material.
01:40:32.000Nick has been kicked out of 109 organizations.
01:40:35.000And counting, always the organization's fault.
01:40:37.000Well, show me an example of when it wasn't my fault.
01:42:25.000That was them who said, this is because Nick called us fags, because Nick called us gay, and he didn't answer my text on Friday, we're going to dissolve the company.
01:45:55.000Look, Theron, fella, if you're listening, if you're listening, you need to come on Worski so I can set you straight with God, with nature, with the laws of nature.
01:46:35.000And I just want to sit down and have a nice civil conversation about why she's in rebellion against God and she doesn't change her ways, she's going to hell.
01:49:41.000I couldn't do any of them because I, you know, I guess, because to marry, you would either have to marry a transsexual or you would have to have sex with a transsexual, both of which are perversions of the faith.
01:52:23.000And this is what Fulton Sheen says God.
01:52:26.000God comes down to man and proves that he is divine so that we can be saved.
01:52:31.000So I suppose, yeah, I suppose it is based on a miracle.
01:52:35.000It's based on the coming of the Messiah.
01:52:37.000It's based on Jesus, excuse me, based on Jesus Christ fulfilling the prophecies in the Old Testament, coming as the Savior, being the Son of God, and of course, being crucified for our sins, dying for all our sins, and then being resurrected.
01:52:53.000So I don't know if it's the validity of a miracle or of a miracle in general as an abstraction, but of that miracle in particular.
01:53:04.000Why do so many people in the alt right have lisps?
01:55:45.000Well, my criticisms of TRS is, I don't know, I don't listen to TRS, so I guess it's not fair to criticize.
01:55:51.000I just, I criticize the people who come after me on TRS, like Mike Enoch, who comes after me playing, you know, cleanup crew for Richard Spencer after that whole debacle on Thursday, coming after me.
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