America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes


Post-Debate Recap! | America First Ep. 360


Summary

In this episode of America First, host Nicholas J. Fuentes talks about his debate on Trainwreck's political podcast on Twitch, and why he decided to debate someone other than Sargon of Akkad. He also gives his thoughts on the debate itself, and what he would have done if he was chosen to debate it. You can find the full show notes and discussion questions at the bottom of the page. Have a question or suggestion? hl=en We'd like to hear your thoughts on this episode, and we'd love to hear from you in the comments section below! Please don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to our other shows, The Anthropology, The HYPE Report, and The HYPETALKS! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! It helps us bring more shows like this to you, and helps us reach more people! Thank you for listening and supporting the show! - Nicky's Note: We'll be looking out for your questions and comments in the next episode! Subscribe to our newest episode, "America First" on Anchor.fm! Subscribe to America First! Subscribe on iTunes! Subscribe Subscribe on Podchaser, Rate/subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices? Subscribe on PODCAST, rate, and review our podcast on iTunes, and help us spread the word out there about our new show "The Big Fish Podcasts and the podcast "Big Fish" on the world's Best Pod Chatter, The Biggest Podcasts Podcasts, The Realest Podcasts & the Biggest Podchore on the Podcasts of the World's Best Podcasts? Big Fish's Most Amazing Podcasts on the Internet, The Most Beautiful Podcasts Awardee Awardee, Big Fish, and the Most Beautiful Farm Day, The Cuteest Podcast Award, The Best Podchor, The Greatest Farm Girl, The Coolest Farmhouse Podcast, The Cheapest Podcast Award & The Most Amazing Farmhandiest Podcast Award Award, the Bigest Gave Meals on the Most Amazingest Farmhand, the Best Gave It All Outsteezer Award, and Much More! -- The Bigest Farmboy Awardee & The Best Bump, the Realest Farmgirl in the Most Effort, the Most Shoutout, The Kabbalistic Farmgirl Award,


Transcript

00:01:08.000 Whoa.
00:03:52.000 Wall.
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00:14:22.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.
00:14:29.000 It's going to be only America first.
00:14:33.000 America first.
00:14:38.000 The American people will come first once again.
00:15:29.000 Good evening, everybody.
00:15:30.000 You're watching America First.
00:15:32.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.
00:15:33.000 We have a great show for you tonight.
00:15:35.000 Very excited to finally be with you.
00:15:38.000 Wow, that debate went on a little bit longer than anticipated.
00:15:42.000 And I do apologize to the normal Knickers, the normal America First people who tuned in dutifully at 7 o'clock, as they always do.
00:15:51.000 I didn't announce this debate, actually, until a couple hours before.
00:15:54.000 We didn't know what was going to happen.
00:15:56.000 For people that don't know, people that didn't see the announcement on YouTube and Twitter, we just had a big debate.
00:16:02.000 Just got through with a debate on Trainwreck's political podcast on Twitch.
00:16:08.000 Apparently that's a new thing.
00:16:09.000 He decided he was going to do a political debate tonight, and only very recently did I find out I was going to be a part of it.
00:16:16.000 You know, I was streaming one night
00:16:18.000 And somebody recommended to me, I was playing through Battle for Bikini Bottom, the old Spongebob GameCube game, which I completed in one sitting.
00:16:26.000 Props to me.
00:16:27.000 And somebody suggested I hit up this fella, Trainwrecks, who apparently is a big Twitch video game streamer.
00:16:36.000 And I reached out and I said, hey, let me on your show.
00:16:39.000 Let me debate.
00:16:39.000 If there's a debate, if there's blood sports going on, I want to be a part of it.
00:16:43.000 I want in on the action.
00:16:45.000 It's been too long since I did a debate like this.
00:16:49.000 Right?
00:16:49.000 And so he says, okay, April 4th.
00:16:51.000 And I go, alright, good, we've got a debate going, and I didn't know who I was going to be debating, I didn't know what topics were going to be discussed, I just knew, okay, I'm going to be a part of this debate.
00:17:01.000 And so fast forward to yesterday, I don't hear anything, I text him, hey are we still on for tonight?
00:17:05.000 And he posts a picture, it turns out he's got Blair White, Sargon of Akkad, Destiny, and Hassan Piker.
00:17:13.000 And I'm like, well, what gives?
00:17:14.000 Are you ghosting me or did you not see my message or what?
00:17:17.000 And he called me up today and he said, look, he said, I probably shouldn't have blew you off like that, which I respect.
00:17:23.000 I understand why he would have qualms about having me on the stream.
00:17:27.000 So I understand that.
00:17:28.000 Not a fan of getting ghosted, but I understand why he might've had concerns.
00:17:32.000 So he called me, he said, look, I'm sorry that I didn't respond.
00:17:35.000 I should have just told you what was going on.
00:17:36.000 I said, that's totally understandable.
00:17:38.000 I get it.
00:17:39.000 He says you just got to agree you're gonna use the terms of service as you're not gonna use this as like political theater like you're actually gonna debate which I understand because people pull that kind of stuff all the time you know they want to make a statement they want to make a name for themselves and that's why you do a debate I guess more or less but he wanted to make sure that I was going to make arguments and I said of course you know
00:17:59.000 If you watch this show, you know that's all I do.
00:18:01.000 And I'm funny, and I have a routine, and I have a schtick, but that's what I'm about at the end of the day, is the issues, right?
00:18:07.000 So he says, okay, we'll bring you on the show, because Blair White cancelled.
00:18:10.000 So I come on the debate, and boy, that was a long one.
00:18:14.000 I thought we were going to get done by like 9 o'clock, because I was planning on just jumping on board maybe two hours later, and it's 10.50!
00:18:22.000 The debate goes on for... It started a little bit late, but it goes on for four hours, for crying out loud.
00:18:27.000 It's okay.
00:18:28.000 It was fun.
00:18:29.000 But it was a long debate.
00:18:30.000 It was a tough debate.
00:18:32.000 But I think we came away the victors.
00:18:34.000 Honestly, I was a little bit surprised.
00:18:36.000 And I'm not one of these people who will not admit if I've lost or if there's a stalemate or something, but holy smokes!
00:18:44.000 And I'll break each issue down point by point and I'll look at each debater, but
00:18:49.000 Really what I was just surprised about, and it reminded me actually, because this is not the first time I debated Destiny.
00:18:55.000 The setup was it was the right wing, me and Sargon, which isn't really fair because Sargon isn't... He's not really right wing, and I don't mean to say that in a disparaging way.
00:19:04.000 He identifies as a liberal, a centrist, which is okay.
00:19:08.000 But it was me and him versus Hassan, who's like a Marxist, and Destiny, who's a neoliberal.
00:19:13.000 So, a little bit confusing.
00:19:15.000 There's a lot going on there.
00:19:17.000 And I've debated Destiny before.
00:19:18.000 I debated him twice on this show.
00:19:21.000 And I forgot why I vowed at the end of the last one never to debate him again.
00:19:25.000 I thought, oh, it'll be fine.
00:19:27.000 It'll be the same.
00:19:28.000 But just all the little jabs, all these little underhanded comments, all these, you know, getting hung up on little details, the interruptions, it's just...
00:19:38.000 Makes my brain want to implode.
00:19:40.000 And you know, I'm already having to listen to himbo pretty boy nepotism over here talk about capital and class alienation.
00:19:49.000 You know, I already gotta sit through that, which requires a decent amount of discipline on my part.
00:19:55.000 I gotta keep my composure while he makes his arguments?
00:19:57.000 Okay.
00:19:58.000 But then I gotta sit through, Nazi this, Nazi that, he wants to kill all Jews, blah blah blah, and the interruptions, and just the, these little jabs and everything.
00:20:06.000 Oh, I just have no stomach for that, because you know me.
00:20:10.000 I think my conduct in the debate was basically polite, until we reached a tipping point, where it was like, no, I'm getting called out for going on a tangent or interrupting, it's like, what's going on here?
00:20:19.000 People not watching the same debate?
00:20:22.000 I digress.
00:20:23.000 And for all people who are saying, he's a Nazi, he's not a good person, he's a bad faith actor.
00:20:29.000 You know, there's a lot of things I could bring up about Destiny.
00:20:32.000 I think we all know what I'm talking about, which I don't bring up.
00:20:34.000 And I like to think that's just a basic level of decorum.
00:20:37.000 I like to think that's just a basic level of politeness that you afford your opponent.
00:20:42.000 You know, there's a lot.
00:20:43.000 There's a lot that we could talk about that's public and which is not public.
00:20:46.000 But which I refrain from doing because I'm not that kind of person.
00:20:49.000 It's just always disappointing when that same level of respect is not mutual because I like the issues.
00:20:55.000 I like the debate.
00:20:56.000 And look, you want to use certain tricks.
00:20:58.000 You want to interrupt.
00:20:59.000 You want to throw ad hominems.
00:21:00.000 Fair enough.
00:21:01.000 But there's just this nastiness that comes with it.
00:21:03.000 Not like I'm a baby, but it's just disappointing.
00:21:06.000 You wish you could have a more congenial exchange, I guess.
00:21:09.000 You wish it was a debate where you could walk away and say, you know, we disagree and maybe I don't even have to like you.
00:21:15.000 But it was fun.
00:21:17.000 We had a good time and we put on a show but but even to the end it was even trainwrecks TV trying to wrap it up saying and I everyone here's a good person and blah blah blah and these people with the little little cuts the little jives no no no don't say that they're not good people
00:21:32.000 Very hard to get past that because I like to be.
00:21:36.000 I try to be.
00:21:37.000 I try to maintain a level of decor.
00:21:39.000 But that aside, it was a fun debate.
00:21:41.000 I had a great time.
00:21:42.000 You know, Bloodsports is my jam.
00:21:45.000 You know, I like coming on the show and I don't have to duel with anybody for the microphone.
00:21:51.000 You know, that's why I don't have guests on the show.
00:21:53.000 People are like, Nick, why don't you have guests?
00:21:54.000 I don't like the competition.
00:21:56.000 But when I'm in the conflict, I'm in my natural environment, it's
00:22:00.000 It's been so long since I got to sharpen my blade, okay?
00:22:03.000 It's been so long since I got to step into the arena.
00:22:06.000 So it was good.
00:22:06.000 It was fun.
00:22:08.000 And, like, they brought some arguments.
00:22:10.000 I thought a lot of it was...
00:22:12.000 It's just hard when people just don't seem to grasp what you're saying.
00:22:17.000 And I'm not saying, well, not for both of them.
00:22:19.000 It's because they're dumb and not for both of them.
00:22:22.000 It's for whatever reason.
00:22:23.000 But I think people just get hung up on the point they're trying to make and they're just blind to the argument.
00:22:29.000 And I'll give you some examples, but...
00:22:32.000 Overall, good debate.
00:22:33.000 I have to say, and I'll go by each one.
00:22:35.000 I'll give a little evaluation of each.
00:22:38.000 Trainwrecks, I thought, did a great job.
00:22:41.000 Very laissez-faire.
00:22:42.000 He just kind of let it happen.
00:22:43.000 And he only stepped in when it was absolutely necessary, which I appreciate, because a good moderator...
00:22:47.000 Tough to come by.
00:22:48.000 You know, good moderation is something that I've been lacking on this show.
00:22:52.000 When I have debates and it's just me and somebody else, no moderator, it's very difficult.
00:22:56.000 And even other debates I've been on, it's tricky.
00:22:59.000 So I thought he did a great job of that, and I appreciate... I do want to take the time to say thanks, Trainwrecks, for having me on.
00:23:04.000 It's a risk, because I know what people say about me.
00:23:07.000 I know even what I say about me.
00:23:09.000 So it's not always, uh, it's not, it's not a safe bet, right?
00:23:12.000 You're not having on a transgender person.
00:23:15.000 So it's a little bit more controversial.
00:23:17.000 So I do really appreciate that.
00:23:19.000 I thought that took a lot of integrity and courage.
00:23:22.000 You know, there's somebody who says, I want to have a conversation and they mean it.
00:23:25.000 So I appreciate that.
00:23:26.000 The moderator, I thought, did a good job.
00:23:28.000 You know, I thought it was a little bit biased towards the end.
00:23:31.000 You know, maybe I don't see the whole debate, so it's hard to be objective, but it felt like he was a little biased, this Asgold or whatever character, but he was good.
00:23:40.000 He was generally a good dude.
00:23:42.000 Fair enough.
00:23:44.000 Sargon of Akkad, my debating partner, I was actually pleasantly surprised.
00:23:48.000 You know, I've never talked to him before.
00:23:51.000 I've never interacted with him.
00:23:52.000 Everybody on the internet's obsessed with this guy.
00:23:54.000 I, for some reason, I never got on board that bandwagon.
00:23:57.000 Even like the more E-drama types, all they talk about is the latest drama with Sargon.
00:24:02.000 I was never, I was never gossiping about him, so we were just kind of in different worlds.
00:24:06.000 But sitting down and talking to him, I like the guy.
00:24:10.000 I think we don't agree on everything, obviously.
00:24:13.000 He's a little bit more in the center, and obviously a liberal, and he believes in this Western civilization stuff.
00:24:18.000 Fair enough, fair enough.
00:24:20.000 I was there once.
00:24:21.000 And I don't even mean that to be condescending.
00:24:22.000 I just mean, okay, I get it.
00:24:25.000 But even when we disagreed, I thought he was reasonable.
00:24:28.000 I thought he offered pretty cogent arguments.
00:24:30.000 He was polite.
00:24:31.000 He was sort of jolly, you know?
00:24:34.000 And I really appreciate that, because you watch my debate.
00:24:37.000 I'm not like a vindictive person.
00:24:38.000 I don't go on there to say, I hate liberals and, you know.
00:24:42.000 So I think he kind of understands the level of seriousness we're coming at this with.
00:24:47.000 You know, we're just sort of internet people pontificating.
00:24:49.000 So I like that about him.
00:24:51.000 And he was friendly enough.
00:24:52.000 And so it was very cool.
00:24:53.000 I like Sargon.
00:24:54.000 I like him as a guy.
00:24:55.000 And I think he was being very reasonable, even when he was talking about fertility rates.
00:24:59.000 I was a little bit surprised.
00:25:01.000 There was a lot of overlap where I could say he was, you know, not coming at it from the same angle I was, but he was being reasonable.
00:25:08.000 So I like him.
00:25:09.000 We're good to go!
00:25:22.000 I don't like when people say somebody who isn't smart, or rather, when people say somebody who is smart isn't smart because they disagree with them.
00:25:30.000 You know, I'm an honest guy.
00:25:32.000 I wear my heart on my sleeve.
00:25:33.000 You know me.
00:25:35.000 And I'll say that Destiny is smart.
00:25:36.000 You could not be smart and get away with some of the tactics he uses.
00:25:40.000 He uses a lot of debate tactics, which you could say maybe they're effective.
00:25:43.000 You could maybe say they're disingenuous.
00:25:45.000 Maybe I could say that when I'm on the receiving end.
00:25:49.000 But he's a very tricky debater.
00:25:51.000 We're good to go!
00:26:08.000 Resorts to this fast talking and I'm gonna gish gallop and I'm gonna hit you with an insult And I'm gonna say you you really believe that you know something completely ridiculous these sorts of things so that's frustrating.
00:26:18.000 I'll say he's frustrating So I don't I don't care for him that much, but he was an interesting opponent I think it would have been better for just him, but this hassan piker guy.
00:26:28.000 I mean come on Come on, if there's any example of somebody who's in over their skis
00:26:36.000 I mean, come on.
00:26:38.000 He's a very nice boy.
00:26:39.000 He's a very pretty, sweet boy, okay?
00:26:43.000 Nice guy.
00:26:44.000 Well, not really nice, but you know what I'm trying to say.
00:26:47.000 Bless his heart.
00:26:48.000 But just the level of discourse that he brings to the table, I'm sitting there shaking my head like, we can't have this debate go on with somebody who is just, uh, three steps behind playing catch-up the whole time, you know?
00:27:01.000 It's like, I feel like I have to walk him through every little piece of it.
00:27:05.000 It's no wonder he's Cenk's nephew, let me just put it that way.
00:27:08.000 So it was sort of like the Ronnie Cameron debate, it's like at the end of it you're just like,
00:27:12.000 oh my gosh like you just can't get it through your head man like i don't know i don't have i've never met you like i don't have a problem with you personally you said some nasty things about me it's neither here nor there but it's like holy cow dude try and keep up please you know and and getting hung up on every little thing i think that's the
00:27:32.000 That's a signifier to me of low IQ, is we're trying to focus on one strain.
00:27:37.000 You know, we'll get into this when I break down the topics.
00:27:40.000 Like, for example, we're talking about the Christchurch shooter, and we're talking about what causes somebody to do the Christchurch shooting.
00:27:47.000 Is it YouTube videos?
00:27:48.000 Is it isolation?
00:27:49.000 Is it, you know, what is the cause of it?
00:27:52.000 And it ends up where Sargon will say some passing thing about, you know, Nazi Germany in order to illustrate a broader point relating to the central subject.
00:28:01.000 And Ahsan, oh, wait a minute.
00:28:02.000 Wait a minute.
00:28:03.000 Are you with this passive-aggressive up talking sort of effeminate style?
00:28:07.000 It's like If I hear this tone of voice one more time, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
00:28:14.000 I don't know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go clown mode over here.
00:28:16.000 I'm gonna put on a happy face to have me feeling like the trailer again you know, so
00:28:22.000 Those are the opponents.
00:28:24.000 I try to be respectful as much as I could be, but it's just not reciprocated.
00:28:28.000 And that's, that was the nature of the subject and the nature of the conversation.
00:28:32.000 The left, and then really it's the nature of the whole reality, a debate does not take place in a vacuum.
00:28:38.000 That's what you have to understand.
00:28:40.000 It's not people, and this is what people don't understand about debates.
00:28:43.000 It's not people coming together in this instance and trading ideas.
00:28:46.000 Maybe you'll learn something.
00:28:47.000 Maybe you change your mind.
00:28:48.000 You got to be open-minded.
00:28:50.000 We're good to go.
00:29:18.000 Point out the flaws in the other person's logic.
00:29:20.000 It's to get them to say something that'll deplatform them.
00:29:23.000 And that's the game that the left plays.
00:29:25.000 They are jealously guarding.
00:29:27.000 Their monopoly on the issue.
00:29:30.000 They're jealously guarding their monopoly on the frame, on the moral high ground, on the institutions.
00:29:36.000 And so that's why, for example, when you talk about James Watson, people are losing their minds yelling and screaming and getting emotional in the insults because they're jealously guarding this little turf that they have that the left has carved out.
00:29:49.000 You know, it's sort of like what they say about racism.
00:29:52.000 It's like your ideology plus power is what it comes down to in a situation like that.
00:29:58.000 So that was a debate.
00:29:59.000 We're gonna just break down some of the subjects here.
00:30:02.000 I'll just review it real quickly and then I don't know.
00:30:05.000 Do you guys want to get into a normal show or do you want me to just review the whole debate?
00:30:08.000 Because I'm kind of torn.
00:30:09.000 I know we just got off of the debate and I'm giving you some of my thoughts.
00:30:12.000 Do you want, because I did prepare a normal show, do you want to hear the show or do you want to hear the debate recap?
00:30:18.000 One for debate recap, two for a normal show.
00:30:22.000 I'll give it a minute, and I'll see what people are saying in chat.
00:30:25.000 So one for debate, two for a normal show, and let me just take a look at our pop-out chat, and I'll see what people are saying.
00:30:33.000 Okay, everyone's saying debate, everyone's saying debate.
00:30:36.000 We'll just review the debate, okay?
00:30:38.000 Alright.
00:30:40.000 So let's take a look.
00:30:41.000 Our first subject of the debate was the transgender military ban, which is sort of funny.
00:30:47.000 I mean, this to me is so irrelevant.
00:30:50.000 I almost, when I'm doing the preparation, I'm like, do I even need to prepare anything?
00:30:54.000 What else is there to say other than I'm indifferent?
00:30:56.000 And then talk about the real issue, which is transgender people.
00:31:00.000 The real issue, and I'm not in the debate now so I don't have to backtrack and say, not that that's loaded in a negative connotation, blah blah blah, that they're an issue, but the real conversation is about transgender people in society, the nature of gender.
00:31:14.000 You know, that's fundamentally what it's about.
00:31:16.000 We can get in some gay partisan debate about, does Trump have the authority to do it, is it going to affect operational readiness, and I'm uninterested in conversations like that.
00:31:26.000 Conversations like that are what happen on Fox News.
00:31:28.000 And you have a token liberal, and they'll cite their study, and Tron Hannity will cite his study, and whatever, whatever.
00:31:35.000 It's like the Joker when he says, you're trying to be like them, but you're not like them.
00:31:39.000 You ought to be, but you're not.
00:31:41.000 You know, that's how I feel when I'm talking to these people.
00:31:43.000 Let's drop the partisan stuff.
00:31:44.000 Let's just talk about the real meat and potatoes.
00:31:46.000 And we did that pretty quickly.
00:31:48.000 The debate started out about, you know, I think I was the first one to speak, or maybe it was Sargon.
00:31:53.000 Sargon said, basically, I don't care about this issue.
00:31:55.000 Oi, mate!
00:31:58.000 I am a classical liberal.
00:31:59.000 I don't really care about this.
00:32:01.000 I'm open to both sides.
00:32:02.000 So I'm on my own already.
00:32:04.000 And I say, look, they have no place in the military.
00:32:09.000 I said,
00:32:10.000 Like women, transgenders, they shouldn't want to serve in the military because what is the military doing?
00:32:15.000 Are they really up to something noble right now?
00:32:17.000 They just passed a bill in the House of Representatives to defund our aid to the Saudis fighting their war in Yemen and Trump's going to veto it.
00:32:27.000 So it's like the whole administration, the whole Pentagon is dead set on this war that is not our own, which doesn't belong to us, where it's like the worst humanitarian disaster in the world and basically for something that has nothing to do with America or our interests.
00:32:39.000 So it's like, first, why?
00:32:41.000 Why?
00:32:42.000 Transgenders in the military?
00:32:44.000 Why would you not say, oh, I'm transgender.
00:32:46.000 I can't be in the military.
00:32:48.000 This is good.
00:32:48.000 I can focus on, you know, doing something that is generative in society.
00:32:52.000 But I said, aside from that, it just doesn't make any sense.
00:32:55.000 These people are dysfunctional.
00:32:57.000 You don't invite dysfunctional people into an apparatus of any kind and expect them to get better.
00:33:03.000 You know, you wouldn't bring in somebody who has like a manic depressive episode every other week.
00:33:08.000 You wouldn't bring them into your business, right?
00:33:10.000 You wouldn't partner with them if you're starting a restaurant or...
00:33:13.000 I don't know.
00:33:32.000 Transgender people in this particular study reported some adjacent mental illness, which would be anxiety, depression, a number of others, a mood disorder, something like that.
00:33:41.000 So even if you don't believe that, by their very nature, in themselves, because they have gender dysphoria, what does that tell you?
00:33:49.000 What is inside them?
00:33:50.000 What should be a fundamental fact?
00:33:52.000 And the easiest one of who you are, male or female, all you have to do is look down, is contested.
00:33:57.000 You know, I know I'm a man because I look down, oh yeah.
00:34:00.000 I'm a man, right?
00:34:02.000 That's who we are.
00:34:03.000 But these people are, there's so much internal conflict.
00:34:06.000 Even if you think that what they're doing is totally sane and acceptable, you don't buy the studies or the evidence.
00:34:12.000 This is somebody, by definition, who has dysfunction baked into the cake.
00:34:17.000 You don't invite them into the military and expect good things.
00:34:20.000 And of course, right out of the gate, Hasan, Destiny, they don't listen to the argument.
00:34:24.000 Well, it costs more money to kick them out of the military than it costs to give them gender transition surgery, and erectile dysfunction in the military costs more than transition surgery, and there's non-combat roles, and blah, blah, blah.
00:34:36.000 Did you hear?
00:34:38.000 Did you hear what I just said?
00:34:40.000 Because what I said was not that they're gonna cause a big cost to the government like the government has any shortage of money they confront.
00:34:48.000 I didn't say that this is affecting operational readiness.
00:34:51.000 I didn't cite a study.
00:34:52.000 I said in themselves there is dysfunction.
00:34:55.000 You cannot bring dysfunction necessarily into any entity and expect it to improve in their stated goal and their execution of it.
00:35:05.000 And so eventually we kind of narrow it down to that fundamental position.
00:35:08.000 And again, there's this refusal on the part of the other side to acknowledge these things which we know from experience, which we can even deduce theoretically.
00:35:17.000 You know, Destiny and Hassan start laughing at me.
00:35:19.000 You don't even have a study, bro.
00:35:21.000 You don't even have facts.
00:35:22.000 Yeah, I don't really believe in facts.
00:35:25.000 I really don't, frankly.
00:35:26.000 You know, people want to show up in any given place and say, here's this paper.
00:35:31.000 They google I'm right dot com and they say well this study according to so-and-so says this and they don't read the study and they don't read the methodology and they don't even know who wrote it or what the institutions are the procedure they just read the abstract oh I'm right dot com this supports my conclusion well I have a study now I
00:35:49.000 I have credibility for what I'm talking about.
00:35:51.000 This kind of appealing to authority is as vapid as appealing to God, if not more.
00:35:56.000 Because appealing to God, at least God in our conception, has existed in this world for 2,000 years, right?
00:36:01.000 If you're appealing to the Bible as opposed to a study, you know the Bible has a little bit of survivorship going on there.
00:36:07.000 It's been around for a long time.
00:36:09.000 I'll take the Bible over, you know, some lab coat and there's 50 different competing papers and every year the one gets proven wrong from another one and so on.
00:36:16.000 So yeah, I don't have any studies.
00:36:18.000 We know that men and women are distinct.
00:36:20.000 We don't need a study to show us that.
00:36:22.000 If they're distinct, in biological ways, they're distinct physically, mentally, temperamentally, so on.
00:36:28.000 If that's the case, and necessarily follows, they have different roles, different capacities, different aptitudes.
00:36:35.000 From there it follows that men and women are suited to different occupations.
00:36:40.000 War-making is the purview of men, and caretaking is the purview of women.
00:36:45.000 And everyone knows this.
00:36:46.000 We've known this forever.
00:36:47.000 You don't need a study to demonstrate that.
00:36:49.000 Oh, but my, oh, but Ronda Rousey's really tough.
00:36:52.000 That's really great, right?
00:36:54.000 And beyond that, even beyond the genders in themselves being different, well, 80% of the military roles are non-combat.
00:37:01.000 We're good to go!
00:37:23.000 Let's do it!
00:37:46.000 By very nature of them interacting with a group that is distinct, it changes the dynamic.
00:37:50.000 And the same is true with gender.
00:37:52.000 So even if it was, you know, even if you could say that women, particular women, are good at what they do, by their very nature of mixing with the men, they change the dynamic.
00:38:01.000 They make the dynamic less functional.
00:38:03.000 Because men and women have an attraction to one another.
00:38:06.000 And this kind of attraction breeds conflict of interest.
00:38:08.000 It breeds plain conflict between men.
00:38:11.000 It breeds reckless behavior.
00:38:12.000 I mean, there's a lot of things associated with that.
00:38:14.000 So I point this out.
00:38:15.000 Yes, men and women are different.
00:38:17.000 Yes, women change the dynamic.
00:38:18.000 However, what if they made it better?
00:38:19.000 What if there was a study that said that they made it better?
00:38:37.000 Are we going to try to govern within our means?
00:39:00.000 I don't
00:39:18.000 There are no distinctions.
00:39:19.000 If there are distinctions, they're arbitrary and meaningless or societally constructed.
00:39:24.000 And that, I think, is where we met an impasse because these people, obviously, they're not happy with human nature.
00:39:30.000 Not only are they not happy with it, they believe they can change it.
00:39:33.000 They think they know better and they think that there is a better way and we can arrive at a better way if we just have the willpower.
00:39:40.000 And I disagree with all these presuppositions.
00:39:43.000 Yeah, human nature is pretty tragic, you know, or maybe comedic, some might say, but it's tragic.
00:39:48.000 It's unfortunate that some people are better suited to some things.
00:39:52.000 To a certain extent, our destiny is sort of controlled within a certain degree of variability.
00:39:58.000 I mean, you can make certain choices, but, you know, we all understand that we didn't come out of thin air.
00:40:04.000 We all have a background.
00:40:05.000 We all have parents.
00:40:05.000 We all have a story.
00:40:06.000 We all came from somewhere.
00:40:08.000 And so that limits our trajectory and the range of things that we can embark on in our lives.
00:40:14.000 I guess, given our current liberal paradigm, that's kind of sad.
00:40:18.000 We can't do everything that we want to do.
00:40:20.000 But it's also a fact of our nature, it's the only way we know, and we can't change it as far as we know.
00:40:26.000 And I think that was the impasse.
00:40:27.000 So that's the transgender issue, and that's really what it's about, by the way.
00:40:30.000 It's not about
00:40:50.000 We're good to go.
00:41:10.000 And so we reached an impasse on that issue and a lot of people are content to just leave it there and say, oh, I guess now everybody should just do their own thing.
00:41:17.000 No, no, no.
00:41:18.000 As a society, we have to assert that certain things are true.
00:41:21.000 We have to assert that certain things are real.
00:41:23.000 We have to make certain value judgments about our society.
00:41:26.000 We have to decide what kind of society we want to live in.
00:41:28.000 Otherwise, if we make no decision, that decision will be made for us by other people who have an agenda.
00:41:34.000 So that's a transgender issue.
00:41:36.000 We kind of beat a dead horse on that one.
00:41:38.000 The next issue to me was the most frustrating out of all of them, because the transgender thing was relatively civil, and I think even Destiny at that point was restating our position in a way that was fair, and restated the conversation in a way that was appropriate, the way it was framed.
00:41:52.000 And then all hell broke loose in the second issue.
00:41:55.000 It starts out talking about Mueller.
00:41:57.000 And at this point, I'm basically shut out of the conversation.
00:42:00.000 It's fascinating.
00:42:01.000 People are complaining throughout, Nick talked too much.
00:42:04.000 You know, Nick has these run-on sentences or whatever.
00:42:07.000 He's got this performance and he's going for 20 minutes at a time.
00:42:11.000 And it's like, I was probably silent for a half hour and they were perfectly content to just brush right past me in my opening statement on this issue before I had to speak up and say, hey, you know, can I actually have a position here?
00:42:23.000 So, interesting.
00:42:24.000 For people that were keeping score, okay?
00:42:27.000 I'm not going to try and be too petty here, but for people that were keeping score.
00:42:31.000 So, we get into the Mueller issue, and again, kind of a dumb partisan thing.
00:42:35.000 I've even said on the show, I don't really care about the Mueller report.
00:42:38.000 You want to go after Trump?
00:42:40.000 Go after Trump because he's completely failing on everything he promised.
00:42:43.000 Why bother for five seconds on the Mueller report?
00:42:46.000 It's probably not true.
00:42:48.000 If it is,
00:42:49.000 Right-wing people don't care.
00:42:50.000 You know what matters like exponentially more than that and is totally true and indisputable?
00:42:55.000 The fact that there's no wall.
00:42:57.000 The fact that we're bringing in more immigrants than ever before, illegal and legal.
00:43:02.000 The fact that this administration is completely out of control.
00:43:04.000 We're not going to get a trade deal for two years.
00:43:06.000 Even when Trump makes a threat to close the border, it's delayed by a year.
00:43:10.000 Go after him for that, you know?
00:43:11.000 So Mueller report is ended.
00:43:13.000 Yeah, great.
00:43:15.000 Yippee-ki-yay.
00:43:16.000 That's so exciting.
00:43:17.000 I didn't really care, but you know, as usual, the opponents try to spread this disinformation about
00:43:22.000 It's obstruction.
00:43:23.000 If you look at, he asked Russia to interfere when he made that joke at a campaign rally one time.
00:43:29.000 And Benghazi, like, really?
00:43:31.000 We're talking about Benghazi?
00:43:32.000 This is a waste of time.
00:43:34.000 But I had to point out, of course, that even if you're trying to say the Mueller Report has legitimacy, you're gonna have a hard time.
00:43:41.000 Because the scope and scale of the Mueller Report is so vast.
00:43:44.000 They had time, they had resources, they interviewed everybody.
00:43:49.000 I don't know.
00:44:06.000 Let me explain this slowly so you can understand how dumb you have to be to not understand what's being said.
00:44:22.000 Yeah, I don't really care about government expenditures.
00:44:24.000 I'm not a fiscal conservative.
00:44:25.000 Now, in the next breath, I said the Mueller report, if they were going to find something, they could have because they had all the money in the world and they had all the time in the world.
00:44:34.000 So therefore, what I'm saying is, is that if you have unlimited resources,
00:44:40.000 If you, if there's something that exists out there, you'll find it.
00:44:42.000 If you spend 20 some million dollars, 30 some million dollars, and you have two years and all the media, you'll find it.
00:44:48.000 You know, there's no, there's no natural stopping point.
00:44:51.000 It's not, you know, relating to resources, not relating to a time limit.
00:44:55.000 You can find it.
00:44:55.000 Given enough time and energy, you can find it.
00:44:58.000 But he thinks, because I mentioned money, because I said money, because I mentioned cost,
00:45:02.000 Cost equals he's concerned about cost.
00:45:05.000 He's being inconsistent.
00:45:07.000 It's like, you have to have, like, I don't even know.
00:45:10.000 Is that, like, subrational?
00:45:11.000 Is that, like, NPC-type behavior?
00:45:13.000 I'm gonna latch onto this one little thing, pick it out.
00:45:16.000 Oh, I gotcha, I gotcha.
00:45:17.000 It's like,
00:45:18.000 Relax big guy, you know Do we need to get you one of those seats that they gave to those kids in class where it's like one of those squishy rubber Things that you sit on in your chair will give you a little piece of play-doh you can play with While the adults are talking and at that point I was like, okay, we're gonna have some issues with this guy.
00:45:33.000 All right
00:45:34.000 So I make that point, eventually gets into the media, which was, I think, an appropriate and a needed diversion from the partisan conversation, which to me was so uninteresting.
00:45:46.000 Then the moderator asks, well, what does this suggest about media bias?
00:45:50.000 How did this have an effect on the 2018 election, for example?
00:45:53.000 And I said, well, that's really the more fundamental question.
00:45:55.000 It's not, you know, who really cares about this Mueller stuff or even collusion?
00:45:58.000 Collusion happens every day with every politician and everybody knows that and we're gonna die on the hill of Russia buying like a Facebook account or Sergey Kislyak called Jeff Sessions or at a meeting in his office.
00:46:09.000 Like, give me a break, okay?
00:46:11.000 The real, the real subject is the fact that the media colluded with one another to deliver a partisan agenda and that's what that was.
00:46:19.000 It was all the media
00:46:21.000 With a couple of exceptions.
00:46:23.000 Every day, parroting the same partisan narrative.
00:46:26.000 And they were never challenged.
00:46:27.000 And even if they were challenged, they ignored it.
00:46:29.000 And that was the problem.
00:46:30.000 That if you care so much about democracy and freedom of speech and anything like that, people making free, autonomous decisions for themselves.
00:46:38.000 Well, kind of hard to do that when you have 95% of media controlled by 6 corporations.
00:46:43.000 You know?
00:46:44.000 And so I said that.
00:46:45.000 And then we seriously had a debate for maybe 45 minutes to an hour about whether the media was liberal.
00:46:50.000 Now, at that point I think to myself, can we even have a dialogue?
00:46:54.000 If we're clearly living on different planets, if we're clearly living on different dimensions, if what I see is blue, you see is red, how are we going to have a conversation?
00:47:05.000 Right?
00:47:06.000 How are you going to have a conversation if you're living in a world where you watch Stephen Colbert, and Jimmy Fallon, and Jimmy Kimmel, and John Oliver, and you watch movies from Hollywood, and shows from television, you watch advertisements, and you come away thinking, it's about even.
00:47:19.000 It's about even!
00:47:21.000 Conservatives and liberals, yeah, this is about even.
00:47:24.000 You know, and this just goes to show the dishonesty.
00:47:27.000 This was something that I encountered in the second debate with Destiny.
00:47:30.000 The first thing he led with in the last debate that I did with him,
00:47:33.000 Was the study that was done in the 1960s that basically said that people were on board with the Hart-Celler Act.
00:47:40.000 And he said, well, look, this study, according to this study, because the point that I made in the previous debate was that the Hart-Celler Act, the 65 Immigration Act being passed, whether you like it or not, was against the will of the people.
00:47:52.000 The people didn't want the provisions inside the bill.
00:47:54.000 He said, well, I have a study that says that no, they wanted this.
00:47:57.000 And I looked at the study.
00:47:58.000 And what did the study say?
00:47:59.000 They said that as it was advertised,
00:48:01.000 As was advertised, they liked the bill.
00:48:04.000 Well, there's only one problem.
00:48:05.000 The bill was not advertised with what was actually in it.
00:48:08.000 Quite the opposite.
00:48:09.000 They said, this will not change immigration, and I don't want to get into all the details of it, but basically, from the get-go, the first argument, and he refused to concede, was dishonest.
00:48:18.000 Taking the information, warping it.
00:48:19.000 So, in the same way, in the same vein, with this one, trying to argue that the media's conservative and liberal, they're about equal,
00:48:28.000 He says that Fox News is the number one cable news network.
00:48:30.000 So what are you talking about?
00:48:31.000 The media is biased?
00:48:33.000 The media is liberal?
00:48:34.000 Well, how can you say that when Fox News is the number one cable news network?
00:48:38.000 Oh, that's a really great point.
00:48:39.000 Yeah, I hadn't thought of that.
00:48:41.000 I guess if you're only looking at exactly one variety of media, that might be a really cogent point.
00:48:47.000 But it just so happens that cable news media is not the only kind of news media or media at all.
00:48:53.000 It just so happens that you've got many other networks which get much bigger viewership.
00:48:58.000 They're called CBS, ABC, NBC, the Fox affiliates, and on top of that you have cable news, and on top of that you have social media, and so on.
00:49:08.000 And then we get into the debate about YouTube.
00:49:11.000 And he says again, well, if you're looking at the top ten creators who are not John Oliver, and they're not Jimmy Kimmel, and they're not the Young Turks, and they're not Phil DeFranco, and they're not Secular Talk, they're all right-wing!
00:49:22.000 All the top accounts are right-wing if you just exclude all the biggest left-wing ones.
00:49:27.000 You know, that's, hey, I didn't think of that.
00:49:28.000 You're right.
00:49:29.000 No, you're right.
00:49:30.000 You caught me.
00:49:31.000 I was being, I was arguing in bad faith.
00:49:33.000 When I said that if you look at all of media, left-wing media is probably a lot more powerful, I just didn't look at it with these totally arbitrary constraints leaving out all the most powerful left-wing outlets.
00:49:44.000 No, you got me.
00:49:45.000 Slipped my way out of that one.
00:49:47.000 Sure, okay.
00:49:48.000 Yeah, if you're looking at all of media, left-wing people totally control it.
00:49:52.000 However, if you ignore all the left-wing people that are the biggest players, actually right-wing people are the ones running media.
00:49:59.000 Damn!
00:50:00.000 You got me!
00:50:00.000 I got nothing!
00:50:02.000 I got nothing!
00:50:02.000 I'm empty-handed here.
00:50:04.000 So, there's really nothing else to say about that.
00:50:06.000 You know, this is another thing where, do you need me to pull up a Media Research Center study which says that 92% of press coverage was anti-Trump?
00:50:15.000 That 99% of publications endorse Hillary Clinton?
00:50:18.000 Do you really need me to get out all the statistics?
00:50:20.000 Or, do we live and breathe on the same planet, basically, right?
00:50:24.000 Von Gould!
00:50:25.000 So, we had an hour debate about that.
00:50:28.000 And I was like, we're in clown world.
00:50:30.000 We have entered into the twilight zone here.
00:50:32.000 And then the final debate was about this Christchurch attack.
00:50:35.000 The New Zealand mosque shooting.
00:50:37.000 And it was my mistake.
00:50:38.000 It was my mistake.
00:50:39.000 I should have argued in bad faith, but I didn't.
00:50:41.000 And I don't mean that to say, like, look at me, I'm holier than thou, and I'm such a good boy, or anything like that.
00:50:46.000 What I mean to say is, I laid out what I genuinely believed about that situation.
00:50:51.000 I said, there's really no doubt about it that this was a white nationalist terrorist attack.
00:50:55.000 We're good to go.
00:51:11.000 Nobody's denying that people hear certain statistics or whatever, and this tends to cause a problem on the right or with white people or whatever.
00:51:18.000 You know, I get that.
00:51:19.000 But what is the root cause of this?
00:51:21.000 You know, obviously, I understand all the same relevant facts.
00:51:24.000 Why am I not encouraging people to do this?
00:51:25.000 Or, you know, show me the content creator that is encouraging this.
00:51:28.000 And basically, I make a lot of good faith arguments about if you're serious about ending violence, as I am, then you have to really think about this.
00:51:37.000 In a way that is a little bit unconventional.
00:51:38.000 In a way that isn't so, you know, we're gonna scapegoat somebody, we're gonna point, we kick these guys off the internet, and case closed, we did something, we're done.
00:51:46.000 And what I should have said was, well, how about Islam?
00:51:49.000 You know, Islam has a lot of violence.
00:51:51.000 Is the Quran responsible?
00:51:52.000 I mean, that would be the easy argument.
00:51:54.000 Should have went with that one.
00:51:56.000 We're good to go.
00:52:14.000 I don't think so.
00:52:36.000 Guess we gotta allow ISIS on Twitter.
00:52:38.000 And, you know, my violence is justified.
00:52:40.000 Guess we gotta allow the YPG and all these other characters.
00:52:43.000 And me and Sargon repeatedly made this point.
00:52:45.000 It doesn't matter the frequency.
00:52:47.000 It doesn't matter the volume.
00:52:48.000 The point is this.
00:52:50.000 If you can say that you can read into certain statistics and facts and even certain political videos an intrinsically violent ideology.
00:52:58.000 That somebody, the only logical conclusion they could arrive at is violence.
00:53:02.000 Well, then you have to apply that standard universally.
00:53:04.000 You have to apply that standard to the left.
00:53:07.000 You have to apply that standard to communism.
00:53:08.000 You have to apply that standard to Islam.
00:53:10.000 But they're not willing to do that.
00:53:12.000 And that's when the whole operation is laid bare.
00:53:15.000 You don't really care about violence.
00:53:16.000 You care about ending your political enemies.
00:53:20.000 It's a lot less about this, you know, we really are concerned about innocent people getting killed.
00:53:25.000 Believe me, if it was Jeff Bezos getting killed, Hasan Piker would love that.
00:53:29.000 And if it were people like me getting killed, Destiny would love that.
00:53:31.000 You know, who are the ones talking about punching Nazis, throwing grenades through Richard Spencer's window?
00:53:36.000 You know, that's not us, that's the left.
00:53:38.000 And that's mainstream left-wing people.
00:53:40.000 But the point is this.
00:53:41.000 The point is this.
00:53:43.000 Violence is a part of life.
00:53:45.000 Violence is a part of politics.
00:53:47.000 It always has been.
00:53:48.000 The world is built on violence.
00:53:50.000 Violence is a part of everyday goings-ons.
00:53:53.000 You cannot have any kind of institutions or structures without violence.
00:53:57.000 The difference is this.
00:53:58.000 Because the left is in power, because they have this moral high ground, which is basically created through violence,
00:54:03.000 They get to say what violence is okay and what violence isn't.
00:54:07.000 So a Nazi getting killed or attacked or whatever, oh big deal, that doesn't matter, that's a statistic, that doesn't happen that much, whatever, or it's justified, but the violence of the people that are not in power, we have to persecute them, we have to shut them down, we have to stop them.
00:54:21.000 And that's kind of a greater red pill about realism, about real conservatism, recognizing that
00:54:27.000 We're good to go.
00:54:45.000 People that take on this vigilante attitude, they no longer see the government as legitimate, they no longer see the government as having moral authority, then they're going to disrupt the society and you get chaos.
00:54:58.000 Which, as a conservative, we're in favor of order, no matter how bad it is, over chaos.
00:55:02.000 But if you're merely concerned with crushing political dissent, then, you know, that's the avenue you're gonna go down.
00:55:08.000 But, eventually, the conversation derails even further.
00:55:11.000 And then it turns into, well, this goofy Marxist... We did this, like, 25-minute detour where Hasan Piker, really edgelord, you know, 12-year-old with a Che Guevara shirt.
00:55:22.000 He's like that fat kid.
00:55:23.000 Who's that young fat kid?
00:55:26.000 Peaceable or whatever.
00:55:28.000 This young, like, middle schooler who is a communist and he does these vlogs and he says, basically, if you're not a camp or a communist, you can go leave!
00:55:37.000 And, you know, that was basically what was reenacted, you know, all this Marxist terminology.
00:55:42.000 I felt like I'm talking to... I can't say why.
00:55:45.000 That would be offensive.
00:55:45.000 But I feel like I'm talking to somebody who's not very smart, somebody who maybe just read Communist Manifesto the other day.
00:55:50.000 If we entertain that detour for 25 minutes,
00:55:54.000 And then ultimately we got to this point, this convoluted analogy.
00:55:59.000 Well, it's not a convoluted analogy, but it turned into a convoluted conversation.
00:56:03.000 The last point that I raised was simply this, because I think everybody agreed to a certain extent that maybe, in some way, the violence at Christchurch was caused by this marginalization.
00:56:15.000 And Destiny says, no, no, no, you can't platform people who are critical of demographic change.
00:56:20.000 Everybody who's critical of demographic change is a Nazi, like you.
00:56:23.000 Everybody who's critical of demographic change wants to kill all Jews, and things like that.
00:56:26.000 So we can't platform that.
00:56:28.000 There's no way to do that responsibly.
00:56:30.000 There's no solution.
00:56:31.000 We have to ban everybody who does that.
00:56:32.000 We have to ban everybody to the right of Mitt Romney or John McCain or whatever.
00:56:37.000 And Assange says, well, I debate people like this and whatever.
00:56:41.000 And they're kind of coming around, well, maybe if we were really responsible, maybe if we really found a good faith actor, maybe we could do it.
00:56:47.000 And the point I was trying to illustrate, I brought up the example of James Watson.
00:56:50.000 Well, here's an example of could not be a better good faith actor, right?
00:56:54.000 Here's somebody who's not even political.
00:56:56.000 We're good to go.
00:57:13.000 And I feel like we're just going in circles here.
00:57:17.000 I'm getting PTSD remembering, explaining this point about a million times, and everybody's chimping out, interrupting, the moderator's like, okay, you've had enough times, get to the point, whatever, which is very rude and very unfair.
00:57:29.000 But the point was simply, you say,
00:57:32.000 Okay, let's find some common ground.
00:57:34.000 We'll platform good faith actors.
00:57:35.000 We'll platform people who are responsible in talking about this.
00:57:39.000 What does that look like?
00:57:40.000 What does a responsible good faith actor look like?
00:57:43.000 Because even somebody who's as highly regarded as James Watson, even somebody, again, apolitical,
00:57:49.000 And they're not a political actor.
00:57:51.000 This is not their ideology.
00:57:53.000 They don't advance this for a living.
00:57:54.000 They didn't write a book about it.
00:57:56.000 Even somebody who makes a throwaway statement about something which is controversial, and you might even say dangerous.
00:58:02.000 I would concede it's dangerous, sure.
00:58:04.000 But even somebody like that makes a throwaway remark and their life is destroyed.
00:58:08.000 So it's like, where is the line drawn here?
00:58:11.000 What does a good-faith, responsible actor look like to you?
00:58:14.000 Somebody who isn't actually dissenting?
00:58:16.000 And what it comes down to, the point that's illustrated, is their problem is not with violence, intrinsically violent rhetoric, it's with political dissent.
00:58:25.000 Anybody who dissents in any way, shape, or form, in any capacity, no matter what they say, no matter who they are, is now a Nazi.
00:58:32.000 And Nazis have no place here.
00:58:33.000 And Nazis are not going to have friends.
00:58:35.000 They're not going to have jobs.
00:58:36.000 Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.
00:58:38.000 We can wipe our hands, absolve ourselves from this.
00:58:40.000 They're on the outs.
00:58:41.000 We're on the in.
00:58:42.000 And that was the point that was trying to be demonstrated.
00:58:44.000 We just kept going back in circles, people getting hung up on, well, he's a genetic scientist, not a genetic IQ scientist.
00:58:51.000 So basically that happened because he spoke out of turn about a subject he wasn't an expert on.
00:58:56.000 Or he said something that we believe isn't true.
00:59:00.000 So if you believe things that we believe aren't true, you deserve to get your... And I just kept going around and around.
00:59:05.000 I think the only person who kind of got it was Sargon there, but it was like...
00:59:09.000 Painful.
00:59:10.000 And people losing their minds, losing control, interrupting.
00:59:13.000 Because what you're saying is false!
00:59:15.000 Because what you're saying is false!
00:59:16.000 And that's when you realize.
00:59:17.000 I think that sort of laid it out.
00:59:19.000 That was the best demonstration of it.
00:59:21.000 They could not even keep themselves from interrupting me for 30 seconds because, in their own words, I was saying things which were so not true.
00:59:28.000 Well, even in your... You're neoliberal.
00:59:31.000 Destiny's a neoliberal, right?
00:59:33.000 In your own conception.
00:59:34.000 Even the moderator, I'm sure, is a liberal.
00:59:35.000 I'm sure a lot of the people watching are liberals.
00:59:37.000 In your conception, even according to your own values in a society, the whole point is that you should be able to say things that aren't true.
00:59:45.000 Even if you don't believe they're true, even if they're objectively untrue, whatever, the point is you should be able to say things that maybe aren't your expertise or aren't true in your mind, but you're able to say that.
00:59:55.000 You're able to have a conversation, a discussion, a debate, but this was just lost on them.
00:59:59.000 And even when I'm trying to communicate it, they're saying, I have to interrupt you because what you're saying is so untrue.
01:00:03.000 I have to have a monopoly on what is true.
01:00:06.000 I have to fact check.
01:00:08.000 If he gets good to go around and say that people are not discerning enough.
01:00:12.000 He has to be shut down He said something that was not true something that was against the status quo and so on and that's when you realize it's about power That's what it's always about with these people.
01:00:21.000 It is always about power
01:00:23.000 That's why they lose control.
01:00:24.000 That's why they lose their temper.
01:00:25.000 I raise my voice.
01:00:26.000 I don't lose my temper.
01:00:27.000 But they're wigging out, out of control, interrupting.
01:00:30.000 I have to say this.
01:00:31.000 I have to say that.
01:00:31.000 I have to crack the record.
01:00:33.000 I'm able to sit there and listen for 25 minutes.
01:00:36.000 Destiny and Hasan bounce off of each other, talking about...
01:00:39.000 Capital and alienation and did you even know what Karl Marx said and Das Kapital and all this other stuff and listen and have restraint and respond thoughtfully and address the central point as opposed to these peripheral issues or get hung up on a word or do you even know what the night of the long knives is or whatever but it it just goes to show that because They are merely or rather simply not capable of that what it's really about at the end of the day it's a conversation about do we want to live in a totalitarian country and
01:01:05.000 Where you cannot think the wrong thing, you cannot say the wrong thing, even if you don't agree with it, but you can't even say it.
01:01:12.000 You know, I'm the one basically taking all the arrows, right?
01:01:15.000 I mean, people like me are the ones taking all the arrows.
01:01:18.000 And I said, you can't even put up with that?
01:01:19.000 No, I do put up with that every day.
01:01:21.000 I'm the one taking all the arrows because I am willing to say the things that people are not willing to say, even if they don't believe them.
01:01:26.000 And showing by example, as a martyr, basically, I'm basically a hero as a martyr, that look at what is happening to our society.
01:01:33.000 Do we want to live in a society where you cannot say something that is against the grain, that is against the status quo, lest you be destroyed even if you think it's dangerous, even if you think it's objectively wrong, even if you think whatever, you're not an expert?
01:01:45.000 Is that the society we want to cultivate?
01:01:47.000 You're not a neoliberal.
01:01:48.000 You're not a reformist Marxist.
01:01:50.000 You're a totalitarian.
01:01:52.000 That's what these people believe.
01:01:53.000 And you can look across the board.
01:01:54.000 It happened to my friend Faith Goldie recently.
01:01:56.000 You're not allowed on Airbnb.
01:01:57.000 You're not allowed on YouTube.
01:01:59.000 You're not allowed on Twitter.
01:02:00.000 You're not allowed on Uber.
01:02:01.000 Facebook.
01:02:02.000 You can't have a job.
01:02:03.000 Your friends will ostracize you.
01:02:05.000 You know, we're basically going to look at arresting you.
01:02:07.000 That's what Elizabeth Warren said.
01:02:08.000 You're going to be a political prisoner.
01:02:11.000 That's what the debate's fundamentally about.
01:02:13.000 Two people who don't even believe the debate should happen.
01:02:15.000 Two people who ducked it.
01:02:17.000 Well, one person, Hassan, who ducked the debate for such a long time until he was forced into it.
01:02:22.000 Because he doesn't, in his own words, want to platform somebody like me.
01:02:25.000 He wants to see me get censored and shut down and backed into a corner.
01:02:28.000 That's really people who say the other side is evil and violence against them is good and being nasty to them is good.
01:02:34.000 They're not human.
01:02:35.000 You know, they come at me talking about you want to exclude and dehumanize other people.
01:02:39.000 What are you doing every time you call me a Nazi, right?
01:02:41.000 What do you do every time you say, Nazi Nick, totally invalidating everything I've ever said and done, my heritage, all this other stuff.
01:02:47.000 Nazi Nick, who should be censored, left in the dustbin of history, all this other stuff.
01:02:54.000 I think that's a fundamental point.
01:02:55.000 That's a takeaway from the debate, in my mind.
01:02:57.000 That's why none of these people debate.
01:02:58.000 Because they are content to see the country, again, fall under the reign of this status quo.
01:03:05.000 It's a shame.
01:03:06.000 I'm not even a libertarian.
01:03:07.000 I believe the country should be like that, but in the right direction.
01:03:10.000 But, you know, I've got to be the libertarian now because that's a totalitarian society we're living in.
01:03:15.000 So, anyway, I think that's a full recap of the debate.
01:03:18.000 How long have we been on here for?
01:03:20.000 We've been on here for about, oh perfect, about 45 minutes.
01:03:23.000 So we're going to start taking a look at Super Chats and, you know, we'll talk about other things in the meantime.
01:03:28.000 So, wow, lots of Super Chats.
01:03:30.000 We're going to be here all night.
01:03:33.000 Let's see.
01:03:33.000 I'll be reading all of them.
01:03:34.000 I'll get to all of them.
01:03:35.000 Nobody says, great work, big guy.
01:03:37.000 Thank you, my friend.
01:03:38.000 James Russell says, you and Ryan Dawson were the only ones to win.
01:03:42.000 Good job.
01:03:42.000 Thanks, man.
01:03:44.000 Ryan Dawson was in that one, but I guess you mean against Destiny or something.
01:03:48.000 Glenn Cunnington says, here's $2.
01:03:50.000 Now send that profit back or it's theft.
01:03:54.000 Oh, that was just painful to listen to.
01:03:56.000 I don't know how anybody can parent these Marxist talking points with a straight face.
01:04:00.000 Profit is theft!
01:04:01.000 You know, you're talking about seizing the means of production and you say my rhetoric is intrinsically violent.
01:04:07.000 My rhetoric is explicitly anti-violent.
01:04:09.000 I come on the show every day and say do not commit violence.
01:04:12.000 Don't even listen to people who say to commit violence.
01:04:15.000 And this guy's talking about seizing the means of production.
01:04:18.000 Have you ever heard of a peaceful seizure of the means of production?
01:04:21.000 Have you ever peacefully seized something from somebody?
01:04:25.000 Hey man, I'm gonna come seize your assets, you know?
01:04:28.000 Is that a statement that is friendly?
01:04:30.000 Voluntary?
01:04:32.000 Hey man, I'm gonna seize your hot dog right now.
01:04:35.000 I'm gonna seize your, that uh, you know, your order of french fries.
01:04:38.000 Does that imply, even by its own definition, does that imply take with consent?
01:04:42.000 Or does that mean violently take at the threat of force?
01:04:46.000 And I'm the intrinsically violent one.
01:04:47.000 Okay, man.
01:04:49.000 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
01:04:50.000 Well, but our violence is justified.
01:04:51.000 Well, what do you think anybody who does violence believes?
01:04:54.000 That their violence isn't justified?
01:04:56.000 No, but really ours is justified.
01:04:57.000 Well, they think the same thing!
01:05:00.000 Oh, but yeah.
01:05:01.000 Anyway.
01:05:02.000 Denal says incredibly entertaining stream Nick you crushed them.
01:05:06.000 Thank you, man.
01:05:07.000 Glad glad you enjoyed Free helicopter rides says I caught the tail end of the debate is Hassan brain damaged No boomers to curb stop but seeing destiny completely unhinged is something to behold.
01:05:19.000 Yeah, it's pretty Pretty hard to watch that guy while out like that, you know just a complete meltdown
01:05:26.000 Just a debate, man.
01:05:27.000 Just an internet conversation.
01:05:28.000 I don't know what you think the stakes are here, but just a total meltdown, like losing his mind, and over a point he doesn't even understand.
01:05:37.000 Ron Johnson says, first super chat ever!
01:05:39.000 Want to thank you, big guy, for body slamming that midget known as Destiny and his low IQ sidekick.
01:05:47.000 Thank you, my friend.
01:05:47.000 Much appreciated.
01:05:48.000 Glad you enjoyed.
01:05:50.000 Swindling Boomers says, the misdirection, interruptions, and fake laughing from Brown Fabio and the pedophile during that crap show was charming.
01:05:57.000 Good job, Nick.
01:05:59.000 Yeah, isn't that really charming?
01:06:00.000 And I loved all these little
01:06:02.000 So what you're saying is, you really believe, you're not that, you're not dumb enough to believe that.
01:06:07.000 You know, do I ever argue like that?
01:06:08.000 Do I ever say that?
01:06:09.000 I'll be sarcastic, but those kinds of things to me are just so petty.
01:06:14.000 They're just so lowbrow.
01:06:16.000 And at the end of the day, just unproductive.
01:06:19.000 I am doing this fundamentally and autistically because I'm trying to arrive at what the truth is.
01:06:28.000 Right?
01:06:28.000 Understand?
01:06:29.000 So, all these things do is get in the way of people being BTFO'd by facts and logics.
01:06:35.000 That's why it's really frustrating.
01:06:37.000 Phillip Fry says, Destiny, an answer to the NZ attack?
01:06:41.000 Easy!
01:06:41.000 We gotta shut down Nazis like Nick here.
01:06:43.000 By the way, did I mention that he's a Nazi?
01:06:45.000 I might be a pedo manlet, but hey, let's get Nazi Nick trending, everybody!
01:06:48.000 Yeah.
01:06:49.000 Well, and the funny thing is, I have brought up objections to Nazism that are actually substantive.
01:06:55.000 Not, he's a Nazi, and Nazi's bad.
01:06:58.000 No, substantive objections to the ideology.
01:07:01.000 You know, and I doubt any of these people even understand National Socialism.
01:07:05.000 You know, he himself said he hadn't read Mein Kampf.
01:07:08.000 Yeah, I'm gonna tell you all about National Socialism, but I haven't even read Mein Kampf.
01:07:12.000 Oh, really?
01:07:14.000 And then he turns around, no, no, but I know everything else, and blah, blah, blah.
01:07:17.000 Like, you know.
01:07:18.000 You know exactly why you look ridiculous now.
01:07:22.000 So, I've come up with substantive objections to it.
01:07:25.000 I've disavowed violent people before, but it's all this, you know, Nazi this, Nazi that.
01:07:30.000 Well, should we talk about how you advocated for ethical child porn?
01:07:33.000 Should we talk about the fact that you abuse your wife?
01:07:35.000 I mean, there's a lot of things we could talk about where, you know, talking about fertility rates is probably less of an evil than what you've got going on in your own closet, right?
01:07:45.000 So, it's all very frustrating when people try that.
01:07:48.000 LPL is proud of you, my boy.
01:07:50.000 By the way, you could have mentioned Gavin Long, the Young Turks cop killer, along with the Steve Scalise stuff.
01:07:56.000 Yeah, I mentioned the Steve Scalise stuff, but I didn't know about the cop killer.
01:08:01.000 James Russell says, when Hassan started spouting Kurds, he ignored that there's an actual Syrian socialist next to them who doesn't sell out to global homo like them.
01:08:08.000 LMAO.
01:08:09.000 Good point.
01:08:10.000 Yeah, very good point.
01:08:12.000 Brandon Hanson says, I'm really surprised you're able to keep your eyes in your head after the massive eye roll when Sargon suggests that Destiny is the greatest debater he's ever seen.
01:08:21.000 Disingenuous opponents, but well fought.
01:08:22.000 Thanks again.
01:08:23.000 Yeah, it was... Well, I'm trying to make it as obvious as possible, you know.
01:08:28.000 What does that mean, you're a good debater?
01:08:30.000 You're a tricky debater.
01:08:32.000 You're a dishonest debater.
01:08:33.000 I don't know if we should be saying that's good.
01:08:35.000 You know, I have a different conception of good, but you know, then again, I'm a Catholic, so I actually have a moral framework as opposed to this vapid, you know, libertine, Western stuff.
01:08:46.000 So yeah, John Doe says, Hey Nick, this debate was a great birthday present.
01:08:50.000 Watching Destiny get triggered was great.
01:08:52.000 Hasan and The Manlet were so dishonest and avoidant.
01:08:55.000 You were really the only right wing around there.
01:08:57.000 I was, you know, I legitimately, that's not even controversial, was the only right wing around there.
01:09:03.000 And yeah, well, happy birthday, by the way, but...
01:09:07.000 Well, and it's just funny.
01:09:08.000 Yeah, I am opposed to race-mixing propaganda.
01:09:11.000 I am opposed to that kind of stuff being promoted to the youth and being promoted to the society.
01:09:16.000 And what's the rebuttal to that?
01:09:17.000 A laugh?
01:09:18.000 Oh, ha ha ha, this guy's so out of touch.
01:09:20.000 This guy's so old-fashioned.
01:09:22.000 I don't know.
01:09:26.000 I don't come at it from a perspective that it's even immoral.
01:09:29.000 I've never even said that that's immoral or I'm getting triggered by black people kissing white people.
01:09:34.000 It's because it's something that is inherently dysfunctional.
01:09:36.000 It's something that is inherently eroding.
01:09:39.000 Racial identity, you know all these people who celebrate people of colors intersectional identity how can you celebrate diversity and racial identity and believe that racial identity should be eroded over time and and diminished and Diluted to the point where nobody has any racial identity.
01:09:56.000 How are you the ones championing diversity?
01:09:58.000 So, you know, it's interesting that people laugh at things like that It's interesting that that's a big chuckle and everybody can roll their eyes and say oh you hear that guy He voiced an opinion that's pretty old actually
01:10:09.000 He's against interracial relationships.
01:10:11.000 I don't know why, but that's what old people do.
01:10:15.000 And we're young people.
01:10:17.000 Do you even know what year it is?
01:10:18.000 It's 2019 and we don't do that anymore.
01:10:20.000 These are people who would have been the Nazis.
01:10:22.000 I don't mean to be horseshoe theory here.
01:10:25.000 I don't know.
01:10:40.000 But the same people that are saying, haha, that's not the status quo opinion, that's old-fashioned, we don't say that anymore, are the same people that would uphold the status quo at any point in time.
01:10:50.000 You know, the consistency is not the substance, it's the methodology.
01:10:53.000 The consistency is not that you would be fighting for so-called racial justice then and now, it's that you would be a lemming then and now.
01:11:00.000 So.
01:11:01.000 Joe Bro says, asthma gold is cool.
01:11:04.000 Yeah, he was cool enough until the end.
01:11:07.000 Noblesse Oblige says, you did amazing.
01:11:09.000 Destiny is sliming and disingenuous.
01:11:11.000 Thanks.
01:11:11.000 I agree.
01:11:13.000 Sneaker says, I only heard 15 seconds of it from my break, but it sounded like you were doing well, big guy.
01:11:17.000 Congrats.
01:11:18.000 Thank you, man.
01:11:20.000 M.V.
01:11:21.000 says, Nick, when are you debating ContraPoints again?
01:11:23.000 Whenever he wants to debate, I will debate him, and it'll be fun.
01:11:28.000 I've reached out to both Theron Meyer and ContraPoints, and both of them didn't respond.
01:11:33.000 I think one of them blocked me, so.
01:11:35.000 Ryan WH says, Kurds fight ISIS so they aren't commies.
01:11:39.000 So dumb!
01:11:40.000 Yeah, yeah, that was the funniest part.
01:11:42.000 I said, what about the Kurds?
01:11:43.000 They fight ISIS.
01:11:45.000 Yeah, okay, but they're communist terrorists.
01:11:46.000 They're not fighting ISIS in Istanbul or Ankara where they do the terrorism, are they?
01:11:51.000 No, no, but you don't understand.
01:11:52.000 It's legitimate when they do it.
01:11:54.000 Oh, okay, so... Back to where we started.
01:11:57.000 Prince Hubris with a big super chat.
01:11:59.000 Thank you, my friend.
01:12:00.000 He says, thank you for your service.
01:12:01.000 No, thank you for your service.
01:12:05.000 Really, really means a lot coming from my older brother, Prince Hubris, there.
01:12:09.000 Much appreciated.
01:12:10.000 Kwama Beast, does a fantastic job on the debate tonight.
01:12:13.000 Kept your cool the entire time like a true Chad.
01:12:15.000 When is Sargon coming on the show?
01:12:17.000 I'd love to have him!
01:12:18.000 Anytime.
01:12:19.000 Anytime, I mean that.
01:12:21.000 Before I was kind of uninterested.
01:12:23.000 I had certain prejudice about Sargon.
01:12:25.000 Maybe he's this cucked Anglo sort of a guy, but I like him.
01:12:30.000 I like the guy.
01:12:30.000 I think he's a good guy.
01:12:32.000 I can't say that for Destiny and Asan.
01:12:34.000 I think they were being disingenuous.
01:12:35.000 And maybe it's because they're juvenile.
01:12:37.000 Maybe it's because they're so overcome with their political ideology, blinded by this.
01:12:41.000 But, you know, Sargon, I think out of the debaters, was the one who was trying to be reasonable.
01:12:47.000 Trying to hear everybody out was nice, you know?
01:12:52.000 So I like Sargon.
01:12:54.000 TurtleBox says, although only 2% of Ancestry, it accounts for over 8% of Nick's aggressive behavior.
01:13:00.000 Luckily, since DNA has zero impact on IQ, Nick still has 300 IQ.
01:13:03.000 Yeah, everybody has the same IQ.
01:13:06.000 Well, and I love that at one point in the debate, Destiny concedes that, sure, people have variations in height between races.
01:13:13.000 I'm sure that's true.
01:13:14.000 But you talk about differences in IQ, and that's dangerous and not true, and it's actually really complicated, and we laugh at him.
01:13:20.000 Me and Sargon are laughing like, yeah, you just proved our point.
01:13:23.000 And he freaks out because he knows we're right.
01:13:26.000 Yeah, say whatever you want.
01:13:28.000 There's nothing different between a physical difference that manifests itself in height that's genetic and a physical difference that manifests itself in brain chemistry, which you could say mental, but it's the brain, right?
01:13:39.000 The brain is material, therefore physical, for the most part.
01:13:43.000 Yeah, I believe there's variations in height between groups, but nothing to do with the brain.
01:13:49.000 When it comes to the brain, the brain is actually really unique.
01:14:05.000 In the sense that evolution doesn't affect it.
01:14:08.000 People don't evolve differently.
01:14:09.000 Diversity doesn't affect it.
01:14:10.000 These other variations, genetic or otherwise, don't affect it.
01:14:13.000 With the brain, everyone's exactly equal.
01:14:15.000 Every group, every person, as big as a race, as small as an ethnicity, that's always going to be the same no matter what.
01:14:22.000 You believe otherwise?
01:14:23.000 What are you, a Nazi?
01:14:24.000 Sure, they have different skin pigmentation.
01:14:26.000 They have certain, you know, bone characteristics.
01:14:29.000 They have all kinds of other variations and muscle fibers and everything else.
01:14:32.000 But when it comes to the brain,
01:14:34.000 Uh, no, I'm sorry.
01:14:36.000 Citing no data, no studies.
01:14:38.000 Not even a rational argument.
01:14:39.000 Okay, man.
01:14:41.000 And then this other guy.
01:14:42.000 Moderator saying, just because people are shutting down the truth, doesn't mean it's necessarily the truth.
01:14:47.000 Yeah, well, I wasn't saying that.
01:14:49.000 However, when you're talking about certain things and certain people, there's a conflict of interest.
01:14:53.000 We know what that's about.
01:14:55.000 Uh, Level Best says, bro, that face you made when Sargon said women have always dominated society almost killed me.
01:15:01.000 Someone gotta get that gif.
01:15:03.000 Yeah.
01:15:04.000 Yeah, I don't know what he was talking about, Alan.
01:15:06.000 Well, I guess I kind of did.
01:15:08.000 And I would concede that a little bit.
01:15:09.000 He said the society, which he made a fair distinction between society and the state.
01:15:14.000 He's right.
01:15:15.000 Women have had an important role in the society, as opposed to if they had a minimal or non-existent role in the state.
01:15:21.000 Because women rear the children.
01:15:22.000 How can you say that rearing children is not an important function in society, not an influential function in society?
01:15:27.000 Of course it is.
01:15:28.000 So he was actually right by that.
01:15:30.000 But saying they were dominating society?
01:15:33.000 Ah, it's a stretch.
01:15:47.000 All true.
01:15:48.000 Basketball says Destiny is a stripper name and Hasan is just so clueless.
01:15:52.000 So much was going over their heads, they can't let Nick talk.
01:15:55.000 Talking to TYT, mentioned Gavin Long.
01:15:57.000 Yeah, should have done that.
01:15:58.000 I didn't know about that episode until somebody mentioned it in the Super Chats.
01:16:03.000 But yeah, Hasan is clearly a... It's so ironic.
01:16:07.000 This is the guy who's gonna talk about, like, unfair... What is the word?
01:16:13.000 Undeserved gains?
01:16:15.000 Oh, okay.
01:16:16.000 Yeah, the guy who got hired by his nephew, by his uncle rather.
01:16:20.000 Hi, I'm Hasan Piker and I got my job at the Young Turks from my uncle who runs the Young Turks.
01:16:26.000 And I'm going to tell you about undeserved gain.
01:16:29.000 I'm going to tell you about undeserved economic benefit that the capitalists receive.
01:16:33.000 I'm going to tell you about stolen profit and inequity and unfairness.
01:16:37.000 Me, Hasan Piker, my uncle is my boss.
01:16:40.000 My uncle started the company that I now work at.
01:16:43.000 I'm able to talk for a living for the company that my uncle started.
01:16:46.000 Yeah, I'm sure it was through merit.
01:16:48.000 I'm sure you applied, and Cenk Uygur said, this is the most qualified man for the job.
01:16:56.000 And surprise, it's my nephew!
01:16:59.000 Okay, nephew, why don't you talk about the unfair capitalist system?
01:17:02.000 That makes a lot of sense to me.
01:17:05.000 I'm more oppressed than Hasan Piker.
01:17:08.000 Deplorable Mike says and and also all this um like it just goes to show these people don't believe what they say because all these people who supposedly believe in um you know being against body shaming and being against uh racism and all this other stuff dehumanization they're the first ones to say you're short you're you're effeminate you're weak whatever
01:17:29.000 Destiny, I'm pretty sure I'm the same height as you.
01:17:32.000 Doubt.
01:17:32.000 You know, and Hassan's saying, I'm pretty sure that you're the same as a woman.
01:17:35.000 Well, what?
01:17:36.000 Maybe I am.
01:17:37.000 Does that mean I'm strong and independent?
01:17:40.000 I think what you mean is that's a compliment, right?
01:17:42.000 And it just goes to show these people don't actually believe anything they're pushing.
01:17:46.000 They are, as we've been saying, disingenuous people who conform to the dominant ideology.
01:17:53.000 All it comes down to.
01:17:54.000 Do they arrive at this position because they are truth seekers?
01:17:57.000 Or did they learn the vocabulary?
01:17:59.000 In the same way that somebody roots for the Chicago Bears?
01:18:02.000 Or somebody is a Ariana Grande stan?
01:18:05.000 It's what it is.
01:18:07.000 It's what it is.
01:18:09.000 Deplorable Mike says tonight's debate was the best.
01:18:11.000 You did good.
01:18:11.000 Perhaps your greatest performance yet in any debate, considering the toxic standards you and Sargon went up against.
01:18:17.000 Keep up the great work, my paisano.
01:18:19.000 Thank you, man.
01:18:19.000 Glad you liked it.
01:18:21.000 I don't know if it was the best, but it was pretty good, I thought.
01:18:24.000 Denal says, Bafangul, Nick Fuentes.
01:18:27.000 Yeah, I had to... Look, I've been watching a lot of Sopranos.
01:18:29.000 I'm getting in touch with my roots, okay?
01:18:31.000 Normally, like my mother, I try to kind of hold back on that, try to restrain myself, but now that I'm watching the Sopranos, I'm realizing it's okay to be Italian.
01:18:42.000 Italian lives matter!
01:18:44.000 Gabagool, alright?
01:18:45.000 So, I've been actualizing my superior Roman genetics, my superior Roman heritage there.
01:18:53.000 flexing uh so yeah i will i will be throwing that out there uh poopoo king my man says destiny's vibrations made me sick thank you yeah me too man you think it was any uh you know more it was any easier for me to be in there you're welcome big guy thanks to you uh capang daz says uh watch the stream at work
01:19:13.000 I've been a bad wagee for four hours, but it was worth it to see you 1v2 those clowns.
01:19:17.000 Keep, or rather God keep you, Nick.
01:19:19.000 Thank you, my friend.
01:19:20.000 Glad you liked it.
01:19:22.000 Puppet says, great debate.
01:19:23.000 I was afraid Sargon was going to weigh you down, but surprisingly he didn't opt to subvert much.
01:19:28.000 However, he still has a lot to learn.
01:19:30.000 Perhaps invite him on America First someday.
01:19:32.000 Yeah, he's welcome to come on anytime.
01:19:34.000 I don't know if he will.
01:19:36.000 Never reached out to me before.
01:19:37.000 That's okay.
01:19:38.000 But he's welcome to come on anytime.
01:19:40.000 I like the guy.
01:19:41.000 And yeah, I was surprised at that too.
01:19:42.000 I thought I was going to be fighting a two-front war.
01:19:45.000 There were some things in there that were unhelpful.
01:19:47.000 You know, some of these tangents about fascism and socialism being the same and...
01:19:52.000 You know, some of the stuff I was just like, dude, like, please, can you just let me take this one?
01:19:58.000 Uh, but he's entitled to his opinion.
01:20:00.000 He was, he was generally, on net, I think he was okay.
01:20:03.000 Uh, Wide First says, ever had a McGang Bang?
01:20:06.000 Have one on me, buddy.
01:20:07.000 Thanks.
01:20:08.000 Five dollars though for a McGang Bang, I think it costs a little more than that.
01:20:11.000 But yeah, I've had one.
01:20:12.000 It's, um...
01:20:14.000 What is it?
01:20:14.000 It's a McDouble with a chicken sandwich in the middle?
01:20:17.000 That's what we called it.
01:20:18.000 I don't know.
01:20:18.000 It's a colloquial thing.
01:20:19.000 I guess people call the McGangbang is different wherever you talk to people.
01:20:24.000 Because in my town it was always a McDouble and then you put a McChicken in the middle of it and you put fries on it.
01:20:30.000 But maybe it's different by you.
01:20:33.000 Sneaker says, don't forget to vote on Trainwreck's Twitter folks.
01:20:35.000 Yeah, very true.
01:20:36.000 Go ahead and vote on that.
01:20:38.000 Alan Yu says, Destiny would be a great auctioneer.
01:20:41.000 Yeah, very true.
01:20:43.000 Lorehammer the Fast Talking.
01:20:44.000 If I just talk really fast, nobody will notice that what I'm saying is inconsistent and disingenuous.
01:20:49.000 Lorehammer says, uh, nice job, bruv.
01:20:52.000 Surprisingly based Sargon.
01:20:53.000 Vote Ukip.
01:20:55.000 Oi!
01:20:55.000 Me bloke!
01:20:57.000 Me top lad!
01:20:58.000 I can't do a British accent.
01:21:01.000 Oi.
01:21:02.000 How do you do a British accent?
01:21:05.000 I can't say Sargon in a British accent.
01:21:08.000 Let me think how one would say it in a British accent.
01:21:12.000 I can't do it.
01:21:13.000 I can't do it.
01:21:13.000 I can't do the accents.
01:21:14.000 I don't have the motor skills.
01:21:15.000 I don't have the coordination.
01:21:18.000 Oy, bruv!
01:21:20.000 But Sargon, you're a real mate.
01:21:23.000 You're a real top bloke.
01:21:24.000 How's that?
01:21:26.000 Ghostorubbin says, would you rather do two weeks of call-in shows or debate Destiny and Hassan again for an hour?
01:21:32.000 That's a tough question probably the debate because at least with the debate that's um You know It doesn't it doesn't slow down because with the call-ins it was just like You listen to some guy talk for five minutes about his opinion I'm gonna tell you for five to ten minutes about what I think and at the slow pace and just You just have to wait him out
01:21:54.000 So at least with Sargon and Hassan it's like back and forth.
01:21:57.000 It's intense.
01:21:57.000 It's hostile.
01:21:58.000 So it's you're less constrained to what you can say.
01:22:02.000 Joe Brose's destiny said he would love to have a woman protect him.
01:22:05.000 Yeah.
01:22:06.000 That's just so silly.
01:22:07.000 You know people missing the forest for the trees.
01:22:10.000 I say you wouldn't have your wife go down and fight off an intruder if somebody broke into your house at night.
01:22:14.000 He's like well some women I would.
01:22:18.000 Okay.
01:22:19.000 And, uh, yeah.
01:22:21.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:22:21.000 And there's a man who's 10 feet tall.
01:22:23.000 So people are 10 feet tall.
01:22:25.000 Right?
01:22:26.000 And there's, uh, there's a guy who had an IQ of 200.
01:22:29.000 So everyone's IQ is 200, right?
01:22:30.000 And, you know, there's no such thing as an average.
01:22:33.000 It's like basic, basic elementary stuff.
01:22:36.000 And it's, you have to argue about that.
01:22:38.000 It's like, what are you doing?
01:22:40.000 Kang says YouTube is doing a prime sub thing.
01:22:42.000 Here's mine.
01:22:43.000 Well, thank you, my man.
01:22:44.000 Much appreciated.
01:22:45.000 Deplorable Mike says I quite like Sargon's performance during the debate besides a few points.
01:22:50.000 Should really consider having him on as a guest in the future.
01:22:52.000 Yeah, I've been saying I'll have him on.
01:22:55.000 Punished Dano says Yashar Ali is cringing at you, bro.
01:22:58.000 Did he tweet about me?
01:23:01.000 Let me pull it up.
01:23:04.000 Let me take a look here.
01:23:05.000 Doesn't look like it.
01:23:12.000 Yeah, I don't see it at the top.
01:23:13.000 Maybe you just mean, uh, because of his comments towards that Federalist writer earlier?
01:23:18.000 I don't know.
01:23:19.000 Or was it in his replies, maybe?
01:23:22.000 I'll have to look at it after the show, I guess.
01:23:26.000 But yeah, whatever.
01:23:26.000 Yasha Ali.
01:23:27.000 There's another beauty.
01:23:28.000 Really Good Comics says, I was... It was like watching salt being poured on two slugs.
01:23:33.000 Another easy win for our man, Nick.
01:23:35.000 Thank you, my man.
01:23:37.000 Much appreciated.
01:23:39.000 MV says, I only watched a few minutes of the debate.
01:23:41.000 You know what they say, a Nica with money ain't got no time.
01:23:45.000 That's true.
01:23:46.000 Yeah, very true.
01:23:47.000 Zuch says, happy to learn tonight of the Sargon redemption arc and also that profit is indeed theft.
01:23:54.000 Good job keeping your patience, too.
01:23:56.000 Yeah, very, very big discoveries there.
01:23:58.000 Sargon is our guy.
01:23:59.000 Reagan Lodge says, Nick, you're a gladiator.
01:24:02.000 Have some tendies on me.
01:24:03.000 Thank you, my man.
01:24:04.000 Dwayne says, Nick, your comment at the end, no class.
01:24:07.000 Really summarize the debate.
01:24:09.000 No intellectual discipline or self-reflection, just juvenile aggression from Piker and Destiny's typical antics.
01:24:14.000 Proud of you.
01:24:15.000 Yeah, well at that point I'm not even going to engage.
01:24:18.000 What, I mean we're really gonna drag everything out into the open?
01:24:21.000 That says it all.
01:24:22.000 And everybody watching that debate knows that.
01:24:25.000 It was just no class.
01:24:26.000 Even by the end, whether you like people, you think they're bad people, you think I think Destiny's a good person, you think I think Hasan Piker's a good person.
01:24:33.000 No, but you say it anyway.
01:24:34.000 It's a little thing called cordiality.
01:24:36.000 It's a little thing called, uh, what would you even say?
01:24:41.000 Decorum.
01:24:42.000 What's the term that they use about Donald Trump all the time?
01:24:45.000 I forget, but that civility, that's what it's about.
01:24:49.000 So that that was happening in the end, it just shows that these people are classless.
01:24:53.000 They're the lowest of the low.
01:24:56.000 And then it's everybody.
01:24:57.000 Everybody is like them, but just less aggressive, less open to these kinds of opportunities.
01:25:02.000 That's who we're dealing with here.
01:25:03.000 People who have no honor, no integrity.
01:25:06.000 So, yeah, you're right.
01:25:07.000 It really does bring it all home.
01:25:08.000 Ryan D says, I like the laughter.
01:25:10.000 That'll be really funny when you guys are bred out of existence.
01:25:13.000 One of the best moments of the debate.
01:25:14.000 Best or worse!
01:25:16.000 You know, a lot of people are using that quote and saying that means I'm some kind of terrible person, but, you know, it's true.
01:25:21.000 It's true.
01:25:21.000 That'll be really funny when your great-grandkids or your grandkids don't look like you.
01:25:26.000 Maybe now.
01:25:26.000 And the ideology is what?
01:25:28.000 I don't give an F. Hassan, so what?
01:25:31.000 Race is going away?
01:25:32.000 I don't give an F. I don't give a shit.
01:25:35.000 That's your governing ideology.
01:25:37.000 I don't give a shit.
01:25:39.000 I don't give a shit about anything.
01:25:41.000 Old norms and customs and morality?
01:25:43.000 I don't give a shit.
01:25:44.000 I like watching MTV and skateboarding.
01:25:47.000 I like wearing a beanie.
01:25:48.000 I like hitting the gym.
01:25:50.000 I like pussy.
01:25:52.000 Who gives a shit about anything else?
01:25:54.000 Right?
01:25:54.000 Like, you're just the lowest of the low.
01:25:57.000 That's what these people are.
01:25:58.000 That's who these people are.
01:26:00.000 What they crave is oblivion.
01:26:03.000 Death, oblivion, evil.
01:26:04.000 That's what we're up against here.
01:26:06.000 I don't give a shit.
01:26:08.000 Oh, my race is going away?
01:26:09.000 I don't care!
01:26:10.000 What do you think about that?
01:26:13.000 So what?
01:26:14.000 Interracial sex is gonna happen.
01:26:17.000 Gay marriage is gonna happen.
01:26:19.000 Country's going to hell.
01:26:20.000 Country civilization may vanish.
01:26:22.000 Fertility rate's gonna go to zero.
01:26:24.000 Who cares?
01:26:25.000 Who cares?
01:26:26.000 Who gives a shit?
01:26:27.000 I just care about finding a good diner and being a foodie.
01:26:32.000 I care about finding the best taco in L.A.
01:26:35.000 Yeah, okay, man.
01:26:36.000 Really deep.
01:26:38.000 I aspire to be more like you.
01:26:40.000 Hyman says, Knives out, baby!
01:26:42.000 Starting to see the funny side every day.
01:26:45.000 Every day I see the funny side.
01:26:48.000 I used to think my life was a tragedy, but now I realize it's a comedy.
01:26:53.000 Now I'm always smiling.
01:26:56.000 Now I see the funny side.
01:26:59.000 You know, Hasan Piker talking about profit being theft.
01:27:02.000 Ha ha ha.
01:27:04.000 And I thought my jokes were bad, right?
01:27:07.000 I'm seeing it.
01:27:08.000 I'm seeing it.
01:27:09.000 I've moved on.
01:27:09.000 You know, I was mad before.
01:27:12.000 Now I'm happy.
01:27:12.000 Now I'm always smiling.
01:27:15.000 Goodtimes says, sorry for doing that thing you hate, but you gotta get Sean Last on to give the bulletproof rundown on race and IQ.
01:27:23.000 Yeah, maybe I'll do that.
01:27:24.000 Maybe I'll bring him on.
01:27:26.000 Ridlon Musk says, fantastic performance on that debate.
01:27:30.000 I could not give you a small piece of my bag after this one.
01:27:33.000 Or I couldn't not give you a small piece of my bag after that one.
01:27:36.000 Crush those commie cucks.
01:27:38.000 Yeah, thank you, brother.
01:27:39.000 Thank you for the bag.
01:27:40.000 Much appreciated.
01:27:41.000 I got the hat over here.
01:27:42.000 They're gonna call me a drumpter or something.
01:27:44.000 How can I be a Nazi when I want an Asian to be president?
01:27:49.000 Do you know any Nazis who want an Asian to be president who don't care anymore?
01:27:52.000 Who see the funny side?
01:27:53.000 I don't think so.
01:27:55.000 I want an Asian to be president.
01:27:56.000 I see the funny side.
01:27:58.000 Right?
01:27:59.000 So I was gonna whip this out and be like, but there's just no good opportunity.
01:28:02.000 So thank you for the bag.
01:28:04.000 Uh, Kerry Cox says, Dr. Watson banished from PC Society.
01:28:08.000 Proved your last point.
01:28:09.000 Yep.
01:28:10.000 It did.
01:28:10.000 People are paying attention.
01:28:11.000 Picked up on that.
01:28:13.000 Tyler says, why do they call him Nick the Knife?
01:28:16.000 Cause I'm sharp, incisive.
01:28:17.000 I cut through all the bullshit.
01:28:20.000 Sharp.
01:28:20.000 Witty.
01:28:22.000 Quick, you know, uh, and also as I pulled the knife on somebody on a debate once on, um, uh, what was that guy's name?
01:28:30.000 Uh, it escapes me right now because I'm just so all over the place.
01:28:34.000 I, I can think of his face and everything.
01:28:35.000 I was just talking to him like a month ago.
01:28:39.000 Who was the guy?
01:28:41.000 It was Halsey.
01:28:42.000 Halsey was the guy.
01:28:43.000 I pulled a knife on him on a Warski debate last year.
01:28:48.000 Clondell Dowries says, Ahsan Piker, an extraordinarily small dicked individual.
01:28:52.000 Hey, hey, let's not let's not get into that kind of thing.
01:28:56.000 Britney Venti with a dollar.
01:28:58.000 Wow.
01:28:58.000 Thank you, ma'am.
01:28:59.000 You know, Britney, I noticed you unfollowed me on Twitter recently.
01:29:02.000 Don't think I don't check.
01:29:04.000 Don't think I don't check and see who's following and who isn't.
01:29:07.000 So I'm glad, I'm glad she's coming back around.
01:29:09.000 I knew Brittany Venti was always a knicker at heart.
01:29:12.000 She was always a follower of Nick.
01:29:14.000 She used to watch my show.
01:29:15.000 I saw she defended me a little bit on the timeline, which I unironically appreciated, so.
01:29:20.000 Maybe we could be friends again.
01:29:21.000 Who knows?
01:29:21.000 She unfollowed me.
01:29:22.000 I took that as a tremendous personal insult.
01:29:24.000 You know, me and Brittany, we went to Charlottesville together, right?
01:29:28.000 We've been through a lot together, you and I. You try to seduce me.
01:29:32.000 Yeah, on Curious Cats.
01:29:35.000 Maybe we can be friends again.
01:29:36.000 Nah, I'm just, I'm only busting your chops.
01:29:38.000 Only busting your chops, chops m'lady.
01:29:41.000 Only busting your chops.
01:29:42.000 Don't, uh, don't get upset.
01:29:44.000 But thank you for the super chat.
01:29:45.000 I do appreciate it.
01:29:46.000 Joe Bros says, send some blessings to Trainwreck for making this happen.
01:29:50.000 Yeah, big, big shout out to Trainwrecks.
01:29:52.000 I really appreciate it.
01:29:54.000 Um, I get it.
01:29:56.000 You know, I, I really, um, I am upset when people don't want to give me a platform.
01:30:02.000 But when people do give me a platform even though it's the right thing to do it really takes a lot of guts Really takes a lot of integrity.
01:30:08.000 So I really appreciate it B metal false is great job Nick you showed 27,000 twitch normies that our ideas are banned because they are saying not because they are dangerous.
01:30:17.000 Keep it up Thank you, my man.
01:30:19.000 I hope I did that Brittany with another super chat.
01:30:22.000 Thank you Thank You milady much appreciated
01:30:26.000 Stoichiometry hypothesis says Nikko mode fully unleashed.
01:30:30.000 Hell yeah.
01:30:32.000 Hell yeah 2019 year of the Nikko mode.
01:30:35.000 We're going Nikko mode baby.
01:30:37.000 Mountain Gear says sharp haircut.
01:30:39.000 This man tips his barber.
01:30:41.000 Hell yeah I do.
01:30:42.000 Best barber in town.
01:30:44.000 Good guy.
01:30:44.000 Yeah I was really impressed and actually it was really my... I got the good haircut because the guy cuts my hair.
01:30:51.000 I like the guy.
01:30:52.000 But every time he just cuts it, he leaves it too long on top and too long on the sides.
01:30:56.000 And I'm like, gotta cut it on top.
01:30:57.000 And then he's like, okay, how's this?
01:30:59.000 I'm like, we got to go tighter on the sides.
01:31:01.000 So it's really my vision, but he is the craftsman.
01:31:04.000 So I think we both get a little credit there.
01:31:06.000 Sebastian Bass's big guy props on the debate performance.
01:31:10.000 We know you do what you do out of love for our shared heritage and ancestors.
01:31:14.000 Hassan and Destiny's underhanded jabs at the end resonated in poor taste.
01:31:18.000 Yep.
01:31:19.000 True.
01:31:20.000 I do it because it's out of love.
01:31:22.000 And I don't even say that as a joke.
01:31:23.000 I don't say that as a meme.
01:31:24.000 It's out of love.
01:31:25.000 I wouldn't do it for any other reason.
01:31:27.000 You think, I'm a smart guy, okay?
01:31:29.000 I'm a talented guy.
01:31:30.000 I could pick up my act and I could have done anything, you know?
01:31:34.000 And people understand this.
01:31:35.000 I was in a pretty good school.
01:31:37.000 I was getting pretty good offers from people.
01:31:39.000 I could have been like any number of these sellouts like Charlie Kirk if I really wanted it.
01:31:44.000 But couldn't help myself.
01:31:46.000 I said I can't I cannot live a life of deception.
01:31:49.000 I cannot live a lie I cannot be complicit in what's going on here.
01:31:54.000 So I hope people understand that I hope Whatever hate me think I'm a racist.
01:31:58.000 Yeah, whatever But you know people say I'm a grifter.
01:32:01.000 I'm like Charlie Kirk.
01:32:02.000 I hope at the very least people think I'm being authentic
01:32:07.000 Because I am.
01:32:08.000 I don't do it for any other reason.
01:32:09.000 I do it because I want to see... I really did it because I thought about having children.
01:32:13.000 I want to have a safe and healthy country for my kids to grow up in when that happens.
01:32:19.000 MND... I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, kind of scratch my own back.
01:32:22.000 They're gonna kind of break my arm scratching my own back there, right?
01:32:26.000 But it's true!
01:32:26.000 But it's true.
01:32:27.000 MND says, thank God Blair White didn't make it.
01:32:29.000 Keep up... keep it up, Nick.
01:32:31.000 Good performance and very entertaining.
01:32:33.000 Thanks.
01:32:33.000 Yeah, it turned out to be a blessing, right?
01:32:36.000 Reform Bugman says, Proud of you, King.
01:32:37.000 You killed it on Watson.
01:32:39.000 Thank you, my man.
01:32:40.000 Technology said, Destiny and Ahsan reported to the ICU for critical knife wounds.
01:32:45.000 Rhetorically!
01:32:45.000 Rhetorically, of course.
01:32:47.000 We hate violence on the show.
01:32:49.000 Uh, Douchebags says, Trainwreck was very paused.
01:32:51.000 At least Sargon wasn't a douche.
01:32:53.000 Good job, Nick.
01:32:53.000 I don't think he was paused.
01:32:54.000 I thought he was... I thought he was fine.
01:32:57.000 He was... He didn't interrupt, really.
01:32:59.000 He didn't... I don't really feel one way or the other.
01:33:01.000 He just kinda... kept to himself.
01:33:04.000 So I disagree.
01:33:04.000 I thought he was fine.
01:33:06.000 SS Gomez says, congrats on the win.
01:33:08.000 Funny to watch the people in the chat having to reassure themselves that your rational and convincing argument was only wrong because you're a Nazi.
01:33:14.000 They'll get it soon enough.
01:33:16.000 Everybody will get it soon enough.
01:33:18.000 That's why I say these things.
01:33:19.000 That's why I'm confident about what I say because the writing is on the wall here.
01:33:23.000 What I'm saying is not, you know, this like doomsday eschatology
01:33:28.000 Or it's like the world's gonna end tomorrow and then it doesn't.
01:33:30.000 Like what I'm saying, you're gonna start to see all the time, and you're gonna see a lot more of it.
01:33:35.000 That's just the bottom line.
01:33:36.000 You know, and I made the point initially, you look at the Italian migrant attack, you look at the shooting in the Netherlands, and I said that's not whataboutism, that's simply to demonstrate the principle that diversity breeds conflict.
01:33:48.000 People are saying, oh, well, the guy that reported the migrant attacker was Egyptian.
01:33:54.000 Talk about missing the point.
01:33:55.000 The idea is that diversity breeds conflict, and maybe you're right.
01:33:59.000 If you're right, you have nothing to worry about.
01:34:02.000 If you're right, you have nothing to worry about.
01:34:04.000 But if you're wrong, that's what's irresponsible.
01:34:07.000 You think it's irresponsible to talk about race and IQ?
01:34:11.000 Talk about irresponsibility, you know?
01:34:13.000 And when we see the country we've created in the next couple of decades, right?
01:34:17.000 Broseph says, everyone watch The Daily Brap at YouTube.
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01:34:23.000 Yeah.
01:34:24.000 Yeah, go and do that.
01:34:25.000 That's really something that'll make your life great.
01:34:28.000 Trinsla Dentros says, great performance as always, big guy.
01:34:30.000 Hassan and Destiny's remarks at the end really highlighted their flawed personalities.
01:34:34.000 Not a good look.
01:34:35.000 Sargon was also respectable this time.
01:34:37.000 I hope Trainwrecks invites you again.
01:34:39.000 Yeah, me too.
01:34:40.000 I was trying not to wear out my welcome.
01:34:42.000 You know, I was trying to be congenial enough where
01:34:44.000 They can invite me back.
01:34:46.000 I don't know if that'll happen, because there might be backlash.
01:34:49.000 Well, it's just not fair that, you know, Destiny gets to wig out, everyone gets to wig out, and interrupt, and go on tangents, and all this other stuff, but I do it, and like, I'm the bad guy.
01:34:57.000 I'm causing all these problems.
01:34:59.000 Like, the reason I was causing... the reason people were flipping out and everything, and they saw it as justified, is because they disagreed with what I was saying.
01:35:05.000 I think the moderator, towards the end, was being less than charitable, because at the end of the day, he didn't agree with what I was saying.
01:35:10.000 And that's not really right.
01:35:12.000 But...
01:35:13.000 But hey, I appreciate them having me on, so...
01:35:17.000 You can only expect so much.
01:35:18.000 What's the expectation, right?
01:35:19.000 You know, they had me on.
01:35:20.000 That's good enough for me.
01:35:21.000 So, but yeah, I was a little like... I was a little miffed at the end.
01:35:25.000 Like, I was the one doing all the interrupting.
01:35:27.000 Really?
01:35:27.000 They talked like... I don't think I interrupted... I interrupted a few times.
01:35:31.000 I don't think it was any of these interruptions where I was like 10 seconds in or, you know, I just jumped right in.
01:35:35.000 It was... whatever.
01:35:38.000 Nick says, congrats on 2,000 live viewers.
01:35:40.000 Daily Brappers rise.
01:35:42.000 Well, thank you, my man.
01:35:43.000 Yeah, pretty good turnout tonight.
01:35:44.000 Very exciting.
01:35:46.000 Welcome, welcome to all our new viewers, returning viewers.
01:35:50.000 Welcome, welcome to the show.
01:35:52.000 Welcome.
01:35:53.000 Good to have you.
01:35:54.000 I should have said that at the beginning, that I should have been a better host.
01:35:57.000 Welcome to our, you know, because there are a lot of new people here.
01:36:01.000 Welcome if you're a first-time listener.
01:36:03.000 Hope you enjoy the show.
01:36:04.000 Hope you appreciate our sense of humor, our little way of life over here, our little corner.
01:36:10.000 We're just having a good time, all right?
01:36:12.000 We're just enjoying the funny side over here.
01:36:15.000 Broseph says BRAP gang.
01:36:17.000 Okay, thank you.
01:36:19.000 Samurai says, Destiny wanting experts to be mindful of their social responsibility to others is a great example of how leftists can't accept personal accountability.
01:36:28.000 Yeah, isn't that interesting?
01:36:30.000 Isn't that interesting?
01:36:31.000 We don't have that problem with anybody else, by the way, right?
01:36:33.000 And it's the failure across the board to apply consistent standards.
01:36:36.000 You know, James Watson has to be held accountable.
01:36:39.000 Noam Chomsky doesn't, though, because he wrote books about politics.
01:36:42.000 Well, there's a perfect example.
01:36:43.000 You're fine with somebody talking about grave political issues,
01:36:47.000 And speaking outside their area of expertise.
01:36:49.000 So that's fine.
01:36:50.000 But with James Watson, that's why he got destroyed.
01:36:52.000 Not because he was right.
01:36:54.000 You know?
01:36:54.000 And the same was true of Joy Reid.
01:36:56.000 They say, oh, you're saying that Tucker Carlson got all his advertisers pulled and that's not a show of left-wing power.
01:37:03.000 And I said, well, Joy Reid says equally bad things.
01:37:06.000 And she doesn't get her advertisers pulled.
01:37:08.000 She said anti-gay things.
01:37:09.000 You think anti-gay is any more popular than white nationalist?
01:37:12.000 It's probably less popular, right?
01:37:14.000 No advertisers pulled.
01:37:15.000 And he goes, why don't watch Joy Read?
01:37:19.000 And it's like you can't even argue on an abstract level.
01:37:23.000 You cannot even understand these sort of abstract parallels and connections.
01:37:27.000 The point is, are you applying the principles consistently?
01:37:31.000 You know, I'm against targeted asymmetrical political violence when it's not my guys.
01:37:36.000 I'm against this kind of bias and censorship unless it's against my guys.
01:37:40.000 I'm against, you know, people speaking outside their expertise unless it's my guys.
01:37:45.000 Okay, so you don't really have an ideology.
01:37:47.000 You don't really have any principles.
01:37:49.000 You're just a political operative.
01:37:52.000 Action Review says, Joe the Boomer needs Streamlabs money for a Rascal Scooter and Monster Energy Drink.
01:37:57.000 Please tune into the Daily Brap.
01:37:59.000 Thanks.
01:37:59.000 Thank you so much.
01:38:01.000 Saman says, Asthma Gold is Destiny's buddy.
01:38:04.000 Destiny brought him on to debate with him on the Kumite a year ago versus Venti.
01:38:08.000 Ask her about him.
01:38:09.000 Ah, there you have it then.
01:38:10.000 There it is.
01:38:10.000 It's okay.
01:38:11.000 It's okay.
01:38:11.000 I'm tough.
01:38:12.000 That kind of thing doesn't phase me.
01:38:14.000 You know, these sorts of... I don't want to say anything nasty.
01:38:17.000 Brittany says, what did you guys talk about when they muted you?
01:38:21.000 Destiny tried to trap me and said, do you think the Holocaust happened?
01:38:25.000 And I told him my honest opinion.
01:38:27.000 I said, of course.
01:38:27.000 And he said, do you think 6 million Jews died?
01:38:29.000 I said, of course.
01:38:31.000 I said, if anything, the number is higher.
01:38:32.000 I said, if anything, the number is 10 times what they say it is because of rampant institutional anti-Semitism.
01:38:39.000 And he was like, oh, OK.
01:38:40.000 You're just dying to say something else.
01:38:41.000 You're just dying to say that you don't believe it or get in some kind of thing.
01:38:47.000 But no, no, no.
01:38:48.000 Don't worry about it.
01:38:49.000 Why would I question that?
01:38:50.000 Why would I question that?
01:38:53.000 Why would I question an historical event?
01:38:54.000 Everybody knows you can't do that.
01:38:56.000 Anybody knows it's immoral to question an historical event.
01:38:59.000 Why would anybody lie about anything ever?
01:39:00.000 Why would the government lie?
01:39:02.000 Why would connected people lie?
01:39:04.000 What a preposterous thing.
01:39:06.000 So yeah, now nice gotcha question, but I'm not one of these neo-Nazis, alright?
01:39:10.000 I believe everything the government says, ever.
01:39:13.000 So that's what we were talking about during the intermission there.
01:39:15.000 Broseph says the only answer to this is that Sargon and Nick talk out their differences on the BRAP.
01:39:21.000 Thanks.
01:39:22.000 Thank you to my loyal friends.
01:39:23.000 They wonder why they're not in the inner circle.
01:39:25.000 Take the power back, says from one Italian to another.
01:39:28.000 Bravo!
01:39:29.000 Someone needs to inform these soy boys that Nazism ended 70 years ago, hence no more Nazis afoot.
01:39:35.000 Although there's a real Communist Party of America, plenty of communists out there.
01:39:39.000 See cpusa.org.
01:39:41.000 Well, thank you for the big super chat, my friend.
01:39:44.000 And yeah, this talk about Nazis.
01:39:46.000 They're basically non-existent.
01:39:48.000 Yeah, they exist.
01:39:49.000 You've got National Socialist Movement.
01:39:51.000 What's the membership?
01:39:53.000 Subtract the federal agents.
01:39:54.000 Subtract, you know, whoever else.
01:39:57.000 Infiltrators of other stripes.
01:39:58.000 And how many people are in there?
01:39:59.000 Like, ten?
01:40:01.000 How many?
01:40:02.000 I mean, it's just a joke when they talk about the KKK.
01:40:05.000 Steve Scalise and the KKK.
01:40:06.000 How many people are in the KKK that aren't federal agents?
01:40:09.000 Like, a hundred?
01:40:10.000 A dozen?
01:40:12.000 How about any of their rallies?
01:40:13.000 They have a big rally.
01:40:14.000 Is there a lot of turnout there?
01:40:15.000 It's just such a joke.
01:40:18.000 But people buy that.
01:40:19.000 They've been conditioned and gaslit into this mentality that the biggest threat we face is the KKK and the Nazis.
01:40:25.000 Oh, really?
01:40:26.000 Yeah, that's what I have to be worried about in the coming decades.
01:40:31.000 MB says, too, moronic destiny being the founder of DNA doesn't give James more credibility.
01:40:35.000 Of course, he doesn't realize genetics are linked to IQ.
01:40:38.000 Yeah, that's kind of why that point was null from the get-go.
01:40:42.000 You know, talk about somebody talking about something outside their area of expertise.
01:40:46.000 Aren't you a gamer?
01:40:48.000 I'm sorry, is this debate about StarCraft?
01:40:50.000 Because if it isn't, then you're kind of out of your depth here, right?
01:40:54.000 The professional StarCraft player gonna complain about a genetic scientist talking outside of his authority about the genetic link between IQ and DNA, right?
01:41:05.000 Okay.
01:41:06.000 I'm sorry, does that have a whole lot to do with Terran and Protoss and Zerg and...
01:41:13.000 And all that?
01:41:14.000 I don't think it does, my friend.
01:41:15.000 Does that have to do with mining minerals and harvesting vespene gas?
01:41:18.000 I don't believe it does.
01:41:20.000 Maybe you should stick to that.
01:41:22.000 Evan Curran says Trainwrecks on Twitter, at TrainwrecksTV on Twitter to vote for Nick and Sargon.
01:41:28.000 I'm really, I don't really care about the poll because Destiny and Hasan have more audience, of course.
01:41:35.000 You know, I've, what do I have, like 20-some thousand, 30-some thousand followers on Twitter.
01:41:40.000 So the poll's gonna say what the poll's gonna say, but nobody can look at the arguments and say that, you know, on their, on their merit that I even came close to losing on any of the issues.
01:41:51.000 Pod says, uh, leftists every biological thing is a subject to evolution except the brain that just remains the same no matter what.
01:41:58.000 Isn't that interesting?
01:41:59.000 I'm sure that makes a lot of sense to me.
01:42:01.000 Brandon Hanson says, Afro-Latino and black guy versus midget and Armenian genocide denier.
01:42:06.000 I think our based and red-pilled minorities won.
01:42:08.000 Sargon's going to chain all women in the bedroom.
01:42:10.000 Henry gets to do western civilization.
01:42:13.000 Yeah, based and red-pilled Sargon on the fertility question.
01:42:16.000 He's got the right idea.
01:42:18.000 Samurai Spirits has imagined being a leftist male.
01:42:20.000 It's feminine thinking.
01:42:21.000 Nice work tonight, King.
01:42:22.000 Well, thank you.
01:42:23.000 And you're right.
01:42:24.000 It's care-based morality.
01:42:26.000 It's totally a feminine ideology.
01:42:27.000 I can't imagine being a man and saying, like, you know, guys, we really have to be more sensitive.
01:42:32.000 And it's women's turn to govern.
01:42:34.000 And, like, have you ever thought that maybe you're hurting minorities' feelings?
01:42:39.000 Have you ever thought?
01:42:41.000 That you're being irresponsible and hateful with the way you talk.
01:42:45.000 I can't imagine being somebody like that.
01:42:47.000 Not even like... And look, I'm not even like one of these big macho guys.
01:42:52.000 I like monster trucks and football.
01:42:54.000 I'm not even one of these guys who goes around saying you're a soy boy cuck.
01:42:59.000 I don't even... That's not even my thing.
01:43:01.000 But... To go so far to the other side with this kind of stuff, it's like... Weren't you ever a boy once?
01:43:07.000 Weren't you ever a boy and you played with, you know...
01:43:10.000 I don't even know.
01:43:11.000 You played in the mud, and you pulled pranks on your sister, and you fought with your friends.
01:43:15.000 I mean, where's that energy gone?
01:43:17.000 Are people really that sterilized where you've got these hormones, you've got this genetics, and you know, that's what you become?
01:43:24.000 I just don't get it.
01:43:26.000 So, and that's not to say that you have to be, I'm a big strong man every day, but it's like this other stuff.
01:43:33.000 I don't know how people get out of bed and look themselves in the mirror, and they're like, yeah, I'm content being this
01:43:38.000 Warrior for women's rights?
01:43:40.000 Like, bro.
01:43:41.000 Bro.
01:43:42.000 Yang is cringing at you.
01:43:43.000 Andrew Yang is cringing at you.
01:43:44.000 You literally don't even understand politics.
01:43:47.000 Sip says, great paradigmatic debate that you really got to shine in.
01:43:51.000 Almost as good as the stimulating talks one can find on the Daily Brath.
01:43:55.000 Refreshing haircut, by the way.
01:43:56.000 Yeah, thanks.
01:43:58.000 Interdimensional Harmony says, congrats on the big win.
01:44:00.000 Thank you.
01:44:01.000 Ryazaki says, really enjoyed the dynamic between yourself and Sargon.
01:44:05.000 Maybe a bridge to be built there where Spencer couldn't.
01:44:08.000 I don't know.
01:44:09.000 It's tough with Spencer or rather it's tough with Sargon because Sargon is in the UK and it's like illegal to say certain things.
01:44:17.000 And I get he's got a reputation, you know.
01:44:19.000 I get all this.
01:44:20.000 I'm a liability, frankly, to be associated with and I understand that.
01:44:24.000 So I understand why he might not be gung-ho about it, which might be the case.
01:44:29.000 But yeah, I'd be open to
01:44:31.000 Aligned with him or talking to him.
01:44:32.000 I like the guy.
01:44:34.000 But I understand that can't always be reciprocated because of the nature of our struggle at the moment.
01:44:39.000 MB says, also automation can mean less immigration.
01:44:42.000 Yang Gang and Maga.
01:44:43.000 1000 is nice, but truly worth it.
01:44:45.000 Please criticize your boy.
01:44:47.000 So what, we got a million questions in here?
01:44:50.000 Please criticize your boy, Tim slash Baked, who is blaming memes for Christchurch.
01:44:53.000 The knife was great tonight.
01:44:54.000 Well, thanks.
01:44:55.000 Not going to speak on Baked.
01:44:56.000 Baked is my friend.
01:44:58.000 And I've talked about this before on many other shows.
01:45:01.000 Automation means less immigration.
01:45:03.000 That's not true at all.
01:45:05.000 Automation has been taking place for years and immigration has been increasing.
01:45:08.000 So...
01:45:10.000 Not true.
01:45:11.000 Right wing rage says Hasan and Destiny are human waste and heathen sodomites.
01:45:15.000 Okay.
01:45:15.000 All right.
01:45:16.000 Now I cannot stand for this dehumanizing talk.
01:45:20.000 I don't, I don't, I don't like them.
01:45:21.000 I don't agree with them, but to say something like that, dehumanizing rhetoric, I believe that falls well afoul of YouTube's terms of service and my moral code coincidentally.
01:45:31.000 So I disagree.
01:45:33.000 I think they're human beings and they deserve equal rights and respect.
01:45:38.000 So I'll just leave it at that.
01:45:39.000 I just love being on YouTube, don't you?
01:45:42.000 West Motorstein says, at what point during the debate did you realize that your life isn't a tragedy but a comedy?
01:45:48.000 Good debate, good optics.
01:45:49.000 Hope to see more.
01:45:50.000 Yeah, me too.
01:45:52.000 Probably the liberal media thing.
01:45:53.000 It was like, if you can't concede that the media is liberal, like,
01:46:00.000 What can you assert?
01:46:01.000 What common ground can we find?
01:46:03.000 I mean, to me, that's just so obvious.
01:46:06.000 It sort of just goes without saying.
01:46:08.000 But if you can't even admit to yourself that the media does not have a left-wing bias, or even if it's marginal, it's like you're living on another planet.
01:46:17.000 You're living in another dimension.
01:46:19.000 I don't understand how anybody could see what goes on.
01:46:22.000 Even if you are liberal and not, not, you know... Oh, but you have Fox News and talk radio.
01:46:25.000 Oh, really?
01:46:26.000 Would you trade?
01:46:27.000 Would you trade having leftists in control of Twitter and Facebook and all the major media companies?
01:46:33.000 Would you trade all that for Fox News and talk radio?
01:46:36.000 Yeah, I don't, I don't think so.
01:46:37.000 Obviously not.
01:46:39.000 Domine says thank you for the debate.
01:46:42.000 Old based Nick.
01:46:43.000 Thank you.
01:46:44.000 CG says love you Nick.
01:46:45.000 Full homo.
01:46:46.000 Yikes department.
01:46:47.000 But I'll take it.
01:46:48.000 I'll take a little homo.
01:46:50.000 Robert says do a show with E. Michael Jones.
01:46:52.000 Put it behind a paywall.
01:46:55.000 Eternally own the super chatter.
01:46:56.000 See the funny side yet?
01:46:57.000 Love you King.
01:46:58.000 I've been thinking about doing that.
01:46:59.000 I may do that.
01:47:01.000 Let me do that.
01:47:02.000 Yeah, well, and what was also funny was, at one point, what did they say about science?
01:47:18.000 They said his fundamental crime was against science and the basics of the foundation of science.
01:47:26.000 They said James Watson, by asserting this opinion irresponsibly, was going against science.
01:47:31.000 Really?
01:47:31.000 I believe, I'm not even a big science guy, but I believe the foundation of science is inquiry.
01:47:36.000 I believe the foundation of science is challenging the status quo, right?
01:47:41.000 Galileo, was he somebody who the foundation of his science was going along to get along, talking about things responsibly?
01:47:48.000 You should read how he presented his thesis on heliocentrism to the Pope.
01:47:53.000 It was not exactly responsible or respectful.
01:47:56.000 So, it's just very, the hypocrisy is just overflowing.
01:48:01.000 The Kids Are Alt-Right says, good job big guy, thanks.
01:48:04.000 Samon says, Wednesday Destiny BTFO'd by Vince, Thursday BTFO'd by Nick, tomorrow will be BTFO'd by a 14 year old girl, he will try to get those digits though.
01:48:13.000 LOL, true.
01:48:15.000 Alex Smith says, great job tonight dude, you have a serious talent for debating and politics, glad you're on our side.
01:48:21.000 Thank you man, I appreciate that.
01:48:23.000 Temple Drake says, Fuentes, unblock my sweet ass on Twitter.
01:48:27.000 Sorry, can't do it.
01:48:28.000 Can't do it if you're blocked.
01:48:30.000 You're blocked for a reason, so.
01:48:32.000 If people want to take advantage of my high spirits and good mood, they think I'll be benevolent and charitable.
01:48:37.000 Not gonna happen.
01:48:38.000 Maybe send me an email.
01:48:39.000 I'll take a look.
01:48:41.000 YY says, I can look past Destiny's dishonest debate tactics, but the lack of common courtesy is so childish.
01:48:47.000 Him scolding the host for thanking you at the end was pathetic.
01:48:49.000 Exactly.
01:48:50.000 You know, that's just so beyond the pale.
01:48:52.000 I agree 100%.
01:48:53.000 I could even get past the debate tactics.
01:48:55.000 Jacob Wall would do the same thing, but I'm friends with Jacob Wall.
01:48:58.000 You know, Laura- well, I didn't debate with Laura Lohmer.
01:49:01.000 Bad example.
01:49:02.000 But Jacob Wohl was on the show, and we had a big debate.
01:49:05.000 It got heated, and we had to fight about the rules, and he used some tactics which I think were underhanded, but we're friends!
01:49:12.000 We're friends, because at the very least, he was cordial.
01:49:14.000 He said, thanks for having me on, and, you know, you're a good dude, and everything else.
01:49:18.000 So, it's, uh, that really, to me, was the most disappointing part about it.
01:49:23.000 The most offensive thing to me.
01:49:26.000 Swindling Boomer says leftists wear a MAGA hat and see who's really violent.
01:49:30.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:49:32.000 MB says vids show with all subvins Goldie or maybe squatting Slav soon.
01:49:38.000 If you can, debate or something with Southern just to call her out on some things.
01:49:41.000 I don't really know Southern that well, so probably not going to happen.
01:49:45.000 But yeah, I'll maybe do a show of Vince sometime soon.
01:49:47.000 We were supposed to do a show about CPAC, and I think we both just got kind of busy.
01:49:52.000 But yeah, yeah, I'd like to do something with AllSup soon, too.
01:49:55.000 Maybe that's in the works.
01:49:56.000 Who knows?
01:49:57.000 Maybe something with AllSup and a certain other debate might be coming down the pike.
01:50:00.000 Who knows?
01:50:01.000 But yeah, me and James are tight again.
01:50:02.000 I'm really glad because I like James.
01:50:04.000 I always like James, and I even said that during the split.
01:50:08.000 So I'm glad that we're homies again.
01:50:10.000 And Vince is good.
01:50:11.000 Goldie, we're gonna be collaborating really soon.
01:50:14.000 On Monday's show, actually, of her Canada First will be collabing, so.
01:50:19.000 And Squatting Slob, I don't know him, but we're mutual, so maybe I'll reach out.
01:50:23.000 Dumb Cattle with a big super chat.
01:50:25.000 Thank you so much, man.
01:50:26.000 Much appreciated.
01:50:27.000 He says, the Super Bowl has $10 million commercials to sell us ideology.
01:50:31.000 WTF kind of world are they living in?
01:50:33.000 Alienation from labor?
01:50:34.000 Get a load of this society.
01:50:36.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:50:37.000 Well,
01:50:38.000 Well, it's just so obvious.
01:50:39.000 You think Versace has an advertisement of a black guy and a white girl because that's gonna sell more perfume?
01:50:45.000 Or that's gonna sell more shoes or whatever?
01:50:47.000 Do you really think that the Super Bowl advertisements are about being against drumpf or whatever?
01:50:53.000 Look at Dick's Sporting Goods.
01:50:55.000 Dick's Sporting Goods stopped selling guns after Parkland and they lost $110 million.
01:50:59.000 So... It's no secret that this stuff happens, but we're all gonna play make-believe and pretend and...
01:51:07.000 Which is disingenuous is what it is.
01:51:09.000 We're going to pretend like that doesn't happen, really?
01:51:11.000 You know, you think corporations are pulling out of Tucker Carlson's show because it hurts their bottom line to have their advertisements there?
01:51:18.000 Of course it doesn't.
01:51:19.000 Who's even mad about their ads being on there?
01:51:22.000 Media matters?
01:51:23.000 How many people are they going to mobilize to stop buying their products?
01:51:26.000 We even hear about this really in-depth political stuff, like 10,000 people?
01:51:31.000 Give me a break.
01:51:32.000 So, it's, uh, when you're debating about that kind of stuff.
01:51:37.000 It's just obvious that there's not a good faith conversation happening.
01:51:42.000 I I says Kurdistan for the Kurds says the Himbo.
01:51:45.000 Yeah, isn't that interesting?
01:51:46.000 He supports a free and independent Kurdistan for the Kurds.
01:51:50.000 We don't see the contradiction there.
01:51:53.000 We don't seem to find anything peculiar about that one.
01:51:56.000 Okay.
01:51:58.000 Cherry Phosphate says, thanks Nick.
01:51:59.000 I thought you conducted yourself very well against frustrating opponents.
01:52:02.000 Thank you, man.
01:52:03.000 I think so too.
01:52:04.000 Red Pill Gaming says, great optics and great arguments.
01:52:07.000 Pinpoint Messaging.
01:52:08.000 Destiny on Suicide Watch.
01:52:09.000 Leftist Utterly BTFO.
01:52:11.000 Proud to call myself a Knicker tonight.
01:52:13.000 Thank you, my friend.
01:52:14.000 Really warms my heart for you to say that.
01:52:17.000 Let's see.
01:52:17.000 Wow, we've got a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot left here.
01:52:22.000 Pinky culture.
01:52:22.000 It says post your pinky finger on Instagram.
01:52:25.000 I'm not gonna do it.
01:52:26.000 I saw your DM.
01:52:27.000 I'm not posting my pinky finger.
01:52:28.000 I don't know what what sick page you got there.
01:52:31.000 I don't know what that's all about but...
01:52:33.000 Not gonna do it, my friend.
01:52:35.000 Dog, Fredify.
01:52:37.000 I see what happens.
01:52:38.000 I see how that kind of thing starts.
01:52:40.000 People say, oh, it's a joke.
01:52:41.000 It's a joke.
01:52:42.000 Post your pinky.
01:52:43.000 Yeah, and people say, oh, it's a joke.
01:52:45.000 It's a joke.
01:52:45.000 Just post your feet.
01:52:46.000 That's like, um, it'll just be really funny.
01:52:49.000 I see what you're up to.
01:52:49.000 Don't think I don't see your game that you're playing with this degenerate pinky stuff.
01:52:54.000 Dog Fred says, have you read Mein Kampf though?
01:52:57.000 I actually haven't.
01:52:58.000 I actually haven't.
01:52:59.000 So, but I'm not making claims about, I'm not making claims about Mein Kampf.
01:53:03.000 So, so I'm, I'm absolved from that.
01:53:05.000 If I read that, I would be a Nazi.
01:53:07.000 So, Cinema Shot says, thank you for taking the arrows.
01:53:11.000 You're welcome.
01:53:12.000 You're welcome.
01:53:12.000 You owe me a debt of gratitude.
01:53:14.000 The bag is the least you can do for me.
01:53:16.000 Wolf says, anyone else notice that Hassan and Destiny reject being called good-hearted by the host?
01:53:21.000 When people imply or tell you they are evil, believe them.
01:53:24.000 I think they were more objecting to him calling me good.
01:53:27.000 I think that was more the objection, but I guess we could interpret it that way also.
01:53:34.000 Deplorable Mike says amazed at your calmness and resilience against sending Sargon straight when he claimed Nazism and Communism are the same.
01:53:40.000 I would have cringed so hard.
01:53:41.000 Well, I cringed, but I was trying to be respectful because he was my partner.
01:53:45.000 You know, you don't, you don't hit your partner.
01:53:47.000 So...
01:53:48.000 I just said, okay, you're gonna make these claims.
01:53:51.000 That's on you, big guy.
01:53:51.000 I'm gonna set this one out.
01:53:53.000 Joe the Boomer says, Nick, it's me, Joe the Boomer.
01:53:55.000 I'm having Jay Dyer on the Daily Brat tomorrow.
01:53:57.000 I can't believe it.
01:53:58.000 And we have a sponsor.
01:53:59.000 What clown world are we in, big guy?
01:54:01.000 Congratulations.
01:54:02.000 Glad to hear about Jay Dyer coming on the show tomorrow.
01:54:05.000 Autistotles is proud of you, buddy.
01:54:07.000 Thank you, man.
01:54:08.000 Andrew, my buddy, Autistotle.
01:54:10.000 He countersignaled me once, but that's okay.
01:54:12.000 He's cool now.
01:54:14.000 Andrew says, Nick, I see the pain and frustration.
01:54:16.000 Stay strong, my brother in Christ.
01:54:18.000 America vs. what we need in a perverse world.
01:54:20.000 Keep fighting the good fight.
01:54:21.000 Thank you, man.
01:54:22.000 You're right.
01:54:23.000 I will keep fighting, always.
01:54:25.000 Never gonna give up the fight.
01:54:27.000 Dogfretify says, only people who have evolved to have a low IQ pronounce Jif as Jif.
01:54:34.000 That's just how I've always pronounced it.
01:54:36.000 I'm not gonna say gif.
01:54:37.000 It just sounds unnatural to me, okay?
01:54:40.000 Homer Barlow says, couldn't watch, was unclogging the shitter.
01:54:44.000 Thanks.
01:54:45.000 Good job.
01:54:45.000 Thank you.
01:54:46.000 Thank you for that.
01:54:47.000 But glad I received the praise regardless.
01:54:51.000 Anglo John Gage, my man.
01:54:52.000 He says, Destiny, on the one hand, said Watson was spewing unproven racial realism BS.
01:54:58.000 On the other, that no one's certain about IQ.
01:55:00.000 I find the opposition to be very emotional and immature.
01:55:03.000 Now answer my DM lol.
01:55:05.000 Good points.
01:55:05.000 I will.
01:55:06.000 I'm sorry.
01:55:06.000 I'm so sorry.
01:55:07.000 It's unacceptable.
01:55:09.000 This guy's been DMing me for a while, and in fairness, I've been behind on emails, DMs, everything, so I do apologize.
01:55:15.000 Not just you.
01:55:16.000 Don't think I'm just ignoring you, but I'll get back to y'all, right?
01:55:20.000 But you're right about the stuff about the IQ.
01:55:23.000 Yeah, it's so controversial.
01:55:25.000 It's so vast.
01:55:25.000 Nobody knows anything, but if you have the wrong opinion, you should have your career destroyed.
01:55:29.000 Yeah, it makes sense.
01:55:30.000 Based Once's Sargon has been on Millennial Woe's channel, so I don't see why he wouldn't come on yours.
01:55:35.000 Yeah, good point.
01:55:36.000 And with Spencer, too.
01:55:39.000 Andrew says, stop by Plan International and MSF today.
01:55:42.000 Easy to pity the less fortunate in South America and Yemen and be distracted from our own suffering people.
01:55:48.000 True.
01:55:48.000 Yeah, very true.
01:55:50.000 Jen Shah says, you're amazing, dude.
01:55:51.000 I love you.
01:55:52.000 I'm a dude, by the way, if you remember yesterday.
01:55:54.000 Nicker Youth.
01:55:55.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:55:57.000 I did.
01:55:57.000 I thought Jen was a girl's name.
01:56:00.000 So...
01:56:02.000 Yeah, well, maybe it's something else.
01:56:03.000 But thank you so much, man.
01:56:04.000 Much appreciated.
01:56:06.000 Sorry if I misgendered you.
01:56:08.000 RedElephants, my man, thank you so much.
01:56:10.000 He says, swinging by while editing.
01:56:11.000 Destiny also said he'd rather defend his home with a bat than his Glock.
01:56:15.000 Yeah, I saw that.
01:56:15.000 There was this great moment in the Vince James, the RedElephants, Destiny debate.
01:56:20.000 Where Vince James said something to the effect of people would rather rather he said people are more equipped to defend themselves they would prefer to defend themselves they're better able to defend themselves when they are doing it themselves as opposed to the cops or some third party and Destiny was kind of disputing that and then Vince brought up this video of Destiny I guess somebody he thought was in his home or he was defending himself and what does he pull out a gun it's a debate about gun control so that was a beautiful moment then he hangs up
01:56:50.000 Yeah, very, very solid.
01:56:51.000 You know, Vince James, my man.
01:56:54.000 You really put him through the ringer on, uh, what was it called?
01:56:57.000 Jesse Lee Peterson and The Other Day.
01:56:59.000 So, props to you.
01:57:01.000 Uh, Charles Alexander says, props for keeping your cool in the face of such vile people.
01:57:05.000 Uh, P.S.
01:57:06.000 Asmon Gold is alright.
01:57:07.000 He's a Trump guy and that was his first non-World of Warcraft stream.
01:57:11.000 Yeah, I'm not, I'm not like mad at him.
01:57:13.000 I don't have a problem with him.
01:57:15.000 That was a little biased, but that's whatever.
01:57:17.000 It's neither here nor there.
01:57:18.000 Classical Theist, my man, thank you so much.
01:57:21.000 He says, great debate, Nick.
01:57:23.000 I think people even on the fence can clearly see you and to an extent Sargon.
01:57:26.000 We're the only sane guys in the room.
01:57:28.000 God bless.
01:57:29.000 Well, thank you, man.
01:57:30.000 God bless you also.
01:57:31.000 All my friends, it feels like such a reunion.
01:57:33.000 It feels like
01:57:34.000 The end of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
01:57:37.000 Everyone's coming back.
01:57:38.000 Congratulations!
01:57:39.000 Congratulations!
01:57:40.000 Congratulations!
01:57:41.000 Shinji, you did it!
01:57:42.000 So thank you.
01:57:43.000 Thank you so much.
01:57:44.000 God bless you as well.
01:57:45.000 I agree.
01:57:45.000 I think, you know, even if you disagreed, I think those people came off as pretty nasty.
01:57:51.000 Andrew says, very crass debaters and kind of gay.
01:57:54.000 Yeah, very crass and definitely effeminate, passive-aggressive.
01:57:57.000 I'm just aggressive.
01:57:58.000 You know, when I perceive Hassan to be, you know, the recipient of nepotism or rather the beneficiary of nepotism, I just say, yeah, you got your job because your uncle.
01:58:08.000 I don't say, I don't do this up-talking.
01:58:11.000 I don't know, you're a Nazi.
01:58:14.000 Grow up, for Christ's sake.
01:58:16.000 I can't stand that kind of thing.
01:58:19.000 Ryazaki says, not the same inside.
01:58:21.000 Time for genocide, says Asanya.
01:58:24.000 I like he slipped in there at one point.
01:58:26.000 He said, people are, they want to get rid of people just because they look a little bit different.
01:58:31.000 Yeah, that's the only reason.
01:58:32.000 It's because they look a little bit different.
01:58:33.000 Were that irrational?
01:58:35.000 Glenn Cunnington says, Destiny and Ahsan won because they used the F word a lot.
01:58:39.000 Yeah, I think that's the metric.
01:58:40.000 I think that means they did it.
01:58:41.000 They interrupted and they used the F word.
01:58:44.000 CG says, Ahsan swearing every word, every other word for emphasis makes me cringe so much.
01:58:49.000 Literal middle school behavior.
01:58:51.000 It's just what it is.
01:58:52.000 This is somebody who's just uncontrolled.
01:58:55.000 And I don't mean, I mean that in the sense that they just lack the discipline to put on a presentation that is at once in terms of the substance is good and also in terms of the presentation is respectable.
01:59:11.000 So he just, he just lacks control, lacks discipline.
01:59:13.000 He's like a, he's like a little child.
01:59:16.000 So that's, that's all I have to say about that.
01:59:17.000 He's really not even a respectable opponent because it's like you,
01:59:21.000 You're just a low IQ individual.
01:59:23.000 I don't really know what else there's to say about that.
01:59:25.000 I'm gonna, it's really more just me explaining things to you than it is a debate.
01:59:29.000 Alexander Blanco says, have you taken the clown pill yet?
01:59:32.000 I've been clown-pilled for a long time, my friend.
01:59:35.000 I've been seeing the funny side for a long time.
01:59:38.000 Hyman says, by the way, Hassan is anti-Yang.
01:59:40.000 Really?
01:59:41.000 Surprise, surprise.
01:59:43.000 Well, he's not, he's not red-pilled enough.
01:59:45.000 You're mad since legacy media is mostly left-leaning, and for those who don't know, legacy media is text, television, and radio.
01:59:50.000 Radio?
01:59:51.000 You brought that up and it's right-wing, gotcha!
01:59:53.000 Yet it's you who's slippery?
01:59:55.000 Exactly.
01:59:56.000 And that's what I mean by this sub-rational, NPC-type thing.
01:59:59.000 You know, the argument is... The argument is what?
02:00:03.000 95% of legacy media is controlled by six conglomerates, and to explain, legacy media is X, Y, and Z. You mentioned Z!
02:00:10.000 You mentioned Z!
02:00:11.000 You're trying to say that Z is a certain way?
02:00:13.000 It's like...
02:00:15.000 Like, if you have a higher IQ, if you can think conceptually, abstractly, you can say, oh, this is a, this is part of a larger argument, you know, and they wonder why I have to go on for such long tangents.
02:00:25.000 It's because I have to anticipate all these low IQ rebuttals, and at every moment.
02:00:32.000 So, that's exactly what happened.
02:00:33.000 Well, they own all legacy media, and by the way, legacy media is this, that, and the other.
02:00:37.000 Well, radio's right wing, huh?
02:00:39.000 Yep, you're wrong.
02:00:41.000 Yeah, you got me.
02:00:42.000 And then I said, oh, okay, you got Rush Limbaugh and a few others.
02:00:45.000 No, no, you have Rush Limbaugh and this guy and this guy and the other.
02:00:48.000 In other words, a few others.
02:00:49.000 Oh, yeah, you're right.
02:00:50.000 When I said a few others, and you said, actually, it's Glenn Beck and Michael Savage, no, I was being, I was trying to minimize it.
02:00:57.000 Oh, boy, and it's, that's whatever.
02:01:00.000 The Fire Rises says, Yang low-key hates white people and wants 16-year-olds to be able to vote.
02:01:05.000 Don't let them distract you.
02:01:06.000 Focus on the bag.
02:01:07.000 Don't let them distract you.
02:01:08.000 Focus on the bag.
02:01:10.000 Yang hates white people.
02:01:11.000 Don't let them distract you.
02:01:12.000 Focus on the back.
02:01:14.000 Yang has a bad policy.
02:01:17.000 Yang said this thing that I don't like and somebody was telling me his brother drowned somebody.
02:01:23.000 Don't let them distract us.
02:01:25.000 Focus on the money.
02:01:27.000 We're going to swindle the boomers, all right?
02:01:30.000 Kawa says, my governing ideology, I don't give an F. I don't give a shit.
02:01:34.000 Yeah, very powerful ideology.
02:01:37.000 I don't give a shit.
02:01:38.000 My race is going to disappear.
02:01:41.000 I don't even care!
02:01:42.000 I don't care.
02:01:43.000 Race doesn't mean anything to me, and it shouldn't matter to anyone.
02:01:46.000 Nothing should matter to anyone.
02:01:48.000 Okay.
02:01:49.000 Cosmic Blue says, Big Dick Nick brought the heat tonight.
02:01:52.000 Very true.
02:01:53.000 Very true in all ways.
02:01:55.000 Very true.
02:01:57.000 Joe John says, I saw the speech at Iowa State.
02:01:59.000 I admire the courage, bro.
02:02:01.000 Thank you.
02:02:02.000 Thank you.
02:02:02.000 Gotta do what you gotta do.
02:02:04.000 When we consider, or what is the quote?
02:02:07.000 Neither pleasure nor pain must be considered when we discuss what, or rather when we consider doing what must be done.
02:02:14.000 I'm butchering this quote, but it's Evola.
02:02:16.000 Neither pleasure nor pain must be considered.
02:02:19.000 We have to do what we have to do.
02:02:21.000 BC says, wow Nick, you're still streaming.
02:02:24.000 Great job tonight wrecking Dunn City.
02:02:26.000 Oh, I like that one.
02:02:28.000 And that other butthead.
02:02:29.000 Yeah, butthead man.
02:02:31.000 Total butthead though.
02:02:32.000 So true.
02:02:34.000 Yeah, I've been streaming now for six hours.
02:02:37.000 Six hours consecutively.
02:02:38.000 I'm pretty tired, you could say.
02:02:41.000 Zirconium says here have another big guy.
02:02:43.000 Thank you.
02:02:43.000 My man Mister says good work tonight big Nick.
02:02:46.000 You never disappoint.
02:02:48.000 Please accept this pittance from a lowly wage.
02:02:50.000 Yes.
02:02:50.000 Thanks for your advocacy Thank you.
02:02:52.000 As long as the wagee tithes, I don't matter.
02:02:55.000 It doesn't matter to me I don't care big or small as long as the wagee pays their dues I'm happy going.
02:03:02.000 Alright, so thank you Just joking.
02:03:04.000 Of course.
02:03:05.000 We appreciate our wages.
02:03:06.000 Thank you for the compliment and for the shekels
02:03:11.000 Pragmatic Culture says, uh, when you need a Hegelian to smack around a Marxist and call up their BS, hit me up.
02:03:18.000 Long live the brap.
02:03:19.000 Yeah, I'll definitely hit you up, my guy, if I need a Hegelian.
02:03:23.000 SoCal Mike says, money for some after dealing with Destiny.
02:03:27.000 Money for some aspirin after dealing with Destiny.
02:03:30.000 Thank you, my man.
02:03:31.000 I will be needing it.
02:03:33.000 jeffersonian writes is hey nicker what kind of alternative music do you like also great work man you really do a lot to give our ideas a rational voice thanks what i'm trying to do alternative music you know i don't really go by bands i just kind of listen to these playlists on like spotify and i just download whatever let me pull it up i want to give you a good answer i like uh the killers those are those are how i got into like alternative music and it's not just mr brightside i like i like a lot of their stuff
02:04:01.000 I like Roy Pablo.
02:04:04.000 Boy Pablo is his name.
02:04:06.000 Roy Pablo is the album.
02:04:07.000 I like Boy Pablo a lot.
02:04:09.000 I like the Marias.
02:04:11.000 I like the Killers.
02:04:13.000 I like a lot of this kind of normie stuff from when I was in high school because it reminds me of when I was in high school.
02:04:18.000 Like Young the Giant.
02:04:21.000 Who was the other one?
02:04:22.000 Walk the Moon and Passion Pit.
02:04:25.000 I understand these are probably bad taste, but I used to host a radio show when I was in high school and we played all that kind of music because it was an alternative station.
02:04:35.000 So it kind of takes me back.
02:04:37.000 Cage the Elephant, things like that.
02:04:41.000 But I'm not really a big alternative stan.
02:04:43.000 It's just more of a nostalgia thing for me.
02:04:46.000 Let's see.
02:04:47.000 Dwayne says, How does it feel to have degenerates like Destiny simultaneously deny the left-wing totalitarian structure and yet muse on how to best manage the platforming of right-wing voices?
02:04:56.000 Yeah, pretty rich.
02:04:58.000 Pretty rich irony, huh?
02:04:59.000 All the way around on every issue, but that one in particular.
02:05:02.000 Denal says, Knife of the Lord.
02:05:04.000 It's true.
02:05:06.000 We have God on our side.
02:05:07.000 If God is with us, who is against us?
02:05:09.000 Really good comics says just extending the show length.
02:05:12.000 Thank you.
02:05:14.000 Let's all pull an all-nighter live stream.
02:05:15.000 I, Carly, tried and failed for that sweet world record.
02:05:18.000 We can do it.
02:05:19.000 This guy is my favorite.
02:05:23.000 He's one of my favorites.
02:05:23.000 Really good comics.
02:05:25.000 Yeah, please.
02:05:26.000 Please keep me up all night.
02:05:27.000 It's exactly what I need.
02:05:28.000 Finally got my sleep schedule together this week and it's already falling apart, right?
02:05:33.000 Finally got a full eight-hour sleep at night.
02:05:36.000 And already here we are at 1230.
02:05:38.000 That's okay.
02:05:40.000 That's okay, because we got fame and money, and that's what it's all about.
02:05:43.000 Just kidding.
02:05:44.000 ii says, Kurdistan for the Kurds.
02:05:46.000 Hasan, anti-racist piker.
02:05:48.000 Yeah, again, somebody pointed that out earlier.
02:05:51.000 It's just so obvious.
02:05:53.000 All these people, you know, there's no consistency because they don't believe what they're pushing.
02:05:58.000 Ryan D says, did you see the comments on the Versace Instagram?
02:06:02.000 No, but I can imagine what they were.
02:06:03.000 I can imagine pretty, um,
02:06:06.000 Disparaging.
02:06:07.000 Technology Badz says, keep super chatting, Froze.
02:06:10.000 I still live on that swing set.
02:06:12.000 Push me harder, push me swing into tomorrow.
02:06:15.000 Oh, you need more stream to get you through the day?
02:06:17.000 We did like hours, man.
02:06:18.000 We're good.
02:06:20.000 Brandon Hanson says, hopefully in the near future, Nick Bain Fuentes asks the left if they feel in charge and give the bag back to the people.
02:06:27.000 Thanks for the amazing show.
02:06:29.000 Yeah, one day.
02:06:30.000 One day I'm gonna take the bag and give it to you, the people.
02:06:35.000 I'm gonna do it.
02:06:37.000 We're gonna combine Bane and the Joker.
02:06:41.000 That'll be the regime.
02:06:42.000 People ask me, what's your, how do you, how do you describe yourself?
02:06:44.000 What's your ideology?
02:06:45.000 I'm like, have you ever seen the Dark Knight trilogy?
02:06:48.000 Something like that.
02:06:48.000 Something approximating all the villains in those movies.
02:06:51.000 You know, that's, forget, forget Demistra, forget Demestra, forget Burke, forget, forget Paul Godfrey.
02:06:59.000 No, no, no.
02:07:00.000 Have you ever heard of this guy, the Joker?
02:07:03.000 That's my ideology.
02:07:06.000 Let's see.
02:07:06.000 Jeremy says, you are a hero.
02:07:08.000 God bless you.
02:07:08.000 Thank you, man.
02:07:09.000 God bless you.
02:07:10.000 Bromance is your amazing big guy.
02:07:12.000 Those two progressives were betas.
02:07:15.000 Is the Hunter Avalon debate still on or did he pussy out?
02:07:18.000 We will be discussing it later this week.
02:07:20.000 So I'll keep you updated on that.
02:07:21.000 That one could happen.
02:07:23.000 But thank you, man.
02:07:24.000 Autism says, congrats.
02:07:26.000 Thanks.
02:07:27.000 Robert G says, congratulations.
02:07:30.000 A, congratulations.
02:07:31.000 Thank you, my friend.
02:07:33.000 Cappa says, your water bottle was hilarious.
02:07:36.000 The Chad sip.
02:07:38.000 I love how obnoxious it is.
02:07:39.000 I love how, I love that it's a big sippy cup.
02:07:42.000 People, people take me way too seriously.
02:07:44.000 You know, they, they're like, oh Nick looks ridiculous.
02:07:47.000 He's taking a sip out of a giant sippy cup.
02:07:49.000 It's a joke.
02:07:50.000 It's funny.
02:07:51.000 It's, you know, people take me way too seriously.
02:07:53.000 Nine times out of ten, it's ironic.
02:07:56.000 Right?
02:07:57.000 So yeah, the Chad sip.
02:07:58.000 I ran out towards the end.
02:08:00.000 But the Chad gulp.
02:08:02.000 Blast Beats says, Nick is good.
02:08:03.000 Thanks.
02:08:04.000 Mike H. Great job on the debate, buddy.
02:08:06.000 Thanks.
02:08:07.000 Billy says, Hasan was so great.
02:08:09.000 Super smart, dude.
02:08:10.000 He gets it.
02:08:10.000 Yeah, real intellect there.
02:08:12.000 Real think tank over at the Young Turks between Cenk and...
02:08:17.000 Who's the other one?
02:08:18.000 Hassan?
02:08:18.000 Real think tank.
02:08:20.000 Yeah, and I'm like, really?
02:08:24.000 Radio reaches 1.6 billion people?
02:08:26.000 And he's like, no, I'm talking about in America.
02:08:28.000 You really think there's a billion people in America?
02:08:31.000 Yeah, dipshit.
02:08:32.000 I think that.
02:08:32.000 And anyway, how many people have Facebook in America besides talk radio?
02:08:36.000 I mean, you're really gonna... What a disingenuous... whatever.
02:08:41.000 Eric writes, has come home from work late and see you're live?
02:08:44.000 Hell yeah, bore their HH.
02:08:46.000 Let's get the MF bag.
02:08:48.000 Yeah, man.
02:08:49.000 Late night for old Nick.
02:08:51.000 That's when I really earned the shekels, huh?
02:08:53.000 And by the way, I do a stream like this and it's like, yeah, good job.
02:08:58.000 But I take one day off and everybody's like, oh, this guy, he's lazy, you're whatever, blah, blah, blah, all this carrying on.
02:09:06.000 Yes, we can't win.
02:09:07.000 Can't win, right?
02:09:07.000 Unless it's a debate.
02:09:10.000 Robert G says, congratulations, thanks.
02:09:12.000 And we've got one more.
02:09:13.000 We've got, oh no, we've got two more.
02:09:15.000 LPO says, by the way, big guy, don't you realize that left-wing violence gave you the five-day work week?
02:09:21.000 Maybe you'll have more time to appreciate it in the Gulag, yeah.
02:09:24.000 And I love this idea that ends justify the means, too, right?
02:09:28.000 Well, political violence was used to achieve good ends from us, so it justified.
02:09:35.000 I'm sure anybody who uses political violence would say the exact same thing.
02:09:38.000 Funny you should mention that, right?
02:09:40.000 Sars of a Young Zoomer says, best dressed and best composed, peak optics.
02:09:45.000 Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.
02:09:47.000 On God, we're making our enemies look ridiculous.
02:09:50.000 Yeah, it was pretty good all the way around.
02:09:52.000 Okay, that's our last Super Chat.
02:09:54.000 We're calling it a night.
02:09:55.000 I'm tired, okay?
02:09:57.000 I've had a long day.
02:09:58.000 I had things to do, and then I had this debate, and then I had things to do in between the debate and the show, and now I'm doing the show.
02:10:05.000 So, it's a lot for a young knicker.
02:10:07.000 It's a lot.
02:10:09.000 But uh, but I'm not complaining.
02:10:11.000 I'm, I'm living, I'm living pretty, I'm pretty high on the hog right now.
02:10:15.000 Is that the expression?
02:10:16.000 I'm riding high on the hog right now.
02:10:18.000 Doing pretty, doing pretty good.
02:10:20.000 Doing pretty good as far as geniuses go right now, as Kanye West would say.
02:10:23.000 Uh, you know.
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