America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - September 10, 2024


Presidential Debate #2: TRUMP VS KAMALA


Episode Stats

Length

5 hours and 21 minutes

Words per Minute

140.11607

Word Count

45,066

Sentence Count

4,544

Misogynist Sentences

164

Hate Speech Sentences

147


Summary

Donald Trump is a businessman and presidential candidate who is running for President of the United States of America in 2020. Trump has been a long time presidential candidate and has been in the public eye for a very long time. He is a man of many talents and has a great deal of experience in business, politics, business and business ventures. He has been around the block and is running to be the next president of the U.S. and I can t wait to hear what he has to say and what he s going to do in the upcoming election. I hope you enjoy this speech and tweet me if you liked it! and tweet us with your thoughts on the speech and what you would do if you heard it live! Tweet Me! and let me know what you thought or if you have any thoughts on any of the things he said or what you think of the speech or what he said in the speech, tweet me! . and don t forget to leave us a in the comments section below! Timestamps: 1:00 - What do you think about the speech? 2:30 - What is your favorite part of a presidential candidate? 3:15 - What s your favorite thing about Donald Trump? 4:20 - What are you looking forward to in 2020? 5:40 - What would you look forward to most? 6:00 7: What are your biggest takeaway from the speech 8: what s your biggest fear? 9:00- What s the worst thing you ve ever heard me say about a politician? 11:00s - Who do you would you would like to see me run for president? 12:00 | What s my biggest superpower? 13:30 | What is the most important thing I m going to be in a campaign? 15:30 16:20 17:40 | What do I think you d have to win in 2020 18:40 19:10 - I d like to win the 2020 election? 21:10 22:20 | I dm 23: How do you feel about the future belongs to the people who follow their heart? 26:00? 27:10 | I ve got a new deal? 25:00 / 15:00/16:00 My new game? 28:00 Is it a deal ?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 the the
00:03:02.000 the Oh
00:03:11.000 Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.
00:03:14.000 The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should
00:03:30.000 be that you must keep pushing ahead.
00:03:34.000 you Because it's the outsiders who change the world and who make a real and lasting difference.
00:03:41.000 Nothing worth doing ever came easy.
00:03:46.000 Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.
00:03:52.000 The future belongs to the people who follow their heart no matter what the critics say.
00:03:59.000 We must always remember that we share one home and one glorious destiny.
00:04:06.000 We all bleed the same red blood of patriots.
00:04:11.000 We all salute the same great American flag.
00:04:15.000 Our best days are yet to come.
00:04:20.000 I am officially running for President of the United States.
00:04:47.000 We need a leader.
00:04:55.000 I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
00:05:02.000 It would be wonderful if you have smart people.
00:05:07.000 But we have people that are stupid.
00:05:13.000 The American dream is dead.
00:05:19.000 But if I get elected president, I will bring it back, bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
00:05:31.000 The American Dream.
00:05:41.000 And we will make America great again.
00:06:05.000 And we will make America great again.
00:06:18.000 We will make America great again.
00:06:25.000 And we will make America great again.
00:06:32.000 We will make America great again.
00:06:40.000 We want Trump! We want Trump!
00:06:56.000 We want Trump! We want Trump!
00:07:12.000 And nobody builds walls better than me, believe me. Bigger and better and stronger than ever before. And we will make
00:07:24.000 America great again.
00:07:27.000 Thank you, thank you very much. And we will make America great again.
00:07:43.000 And we will make America great again.
00:09:07.000 We want Trump! We want Trump!
00:09:22.000 We want Trump!
00:09:38.000 But as soon as people start playing games, I stop.
00:09:41.000 I stop playing games.
00:09:43.000 And at any moment, I could hit that yay button.
00:09:47.000 They said trust no man, but you're not a man.
00:09:50.000 So here you go, take those in your pocket.
00:09:53.000 I said change from girls to the underdog.
00:09:56.000 My mama said trust no ho, you so rubber.
00:10:00.000 I asked, what to?
00:10:02.000 Stop the track.
00:10:03.000 I'm in the reverse.
00:10:04.000 Action.
00:10:05.000 See Ricky said, do it right.
00:10:07.000 I'm on the phone.
00:10:09.000 Look at all the gold.
00:10:10.000 Do the one on.
00:10:11.000 OK, bring it in.
00:10:12.000 I'm out.
00:10:16.000 is You see, I can't be dead to you, but it's a test.
00:10:34.000 Not my words, not my rules.
00:10:36.000 I just enforce them.
00:10:38.000 All right?
00:10:38.000 They say trust no man, but you gotta say you'll never leave your dead boss.
00:10:44.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:10:48.000 Mama said trust no ho, you so gotta know.
00:10:51.000 They say trust no man, but you gotta say you'll never leave your dead boss.
00:10:56.000 Last time was the sky, oh, oh, oh, everything, warming up.
00:11:02.000 Everybody I
00:11:06.000 See I
00:12:18.000 See Well, hey, thanks, love you too, but sorry, I believe in a religion that makes sense, so... Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump were all cut from the same cloth, and that cloth is very, very large.
00:12:34.000 It's not too big, is it?
00:12:37.000 It's wrong, isn't it?
00:12:39.000 It feels so right.
00:12:41.000 It's a deal?
00:12:42.000 It's wrong, isn't it?
00:12:49.000 It feels so right.
00:12:53.000 It's a deal?
00:12:55.000 I put together some really impressive deals.
00:13:02.000 I like that.
00:13:07.000 Go big or go home.
00:13:14.000 Donald Trump.
00:13:21.000 You know, you're really beautiful.
00:13:27.000 A woman that looks like that has to have a little special scent.
00:13:33.000 It's the dog.
00:13:37.000 Oh my God.
00:13:42.000 Hey, Donald.
00:13:43.000 Oh my God, this is amazing.
00:13:44.000 Great.
00:13:45.000 Thank you very much.
00:13:46.000 I'm done with it, it's disgusting.
00:13:48.000 Listen, are you begging here?
00:13:52.000 Huh? Are you?
00:13:56.000 No, I'm just mad. I'm so embarrassed.
00:14:00.000 No.
00:14:01.000 Look at this, right here on this street, it's Donald Trump!
00:14:06.000 You know who he was?
00:14:08.000 Donald Trump!
00:14:10.000 The man is here!
00:14:18.000 Come on, come on, come on!
00:14:20.000 Everything's set for tonight, Mr. Trump.
00:14:23.000 I wonder what Trump's game is this time.
00:14:26.000 Trump's got a new day, Trump's got a new deal.
00:14:36.000 What's your game, though? Heard about Trump's new deal?
00:14:38.000 Mr. Trump!
00:14:44.000 Trump has a new game. What is it?
00:14:53.000 Mr. Trump!
00:14:58.000 No contentions tonight, Mr. Trump!
00:15:00.000 My new game is Trump the game.
00:15:05.000 Trump the game.
00:15:07.000 Trump the game.
00:15:08.000 This sounds like political presidential talk.
00:15:12.000 You said, though, that if you did run for president, you'd believe you'd win.
00:15:18.000 I would say that I would have a hell of a chance of winning.
00:15:25.000 I'd never go on to lose.
00:15:27.000 I've never gone on to lose in my life.
00:15:31.000 I don't know how your audience feels, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off.
00:15:36.000 That's the guy in the car, right?
00:15:39.000 Captain.
00:15:39.000 Thank you.
00:15:40.000 I wouldn't doubt it.
00:15:41.000 Okay, kids, make it fast.
00:15:42.000 I've got a plane to get to.
00:15:43.000 Jimmy, crazy night again.
00:15:44.000 Mr. Trump, uh, if you do a sketchy, so- I don't know what that's about.
00:15:46.000 I don't know what that's about.
00:16:56.000 That's what people always say, isn't it?
00:16:58.000 They say, can we really go back?
00:16:59.000 And the answer is, whether you're conservative or liberal, right what you're left with, the answer is no.
00:17:06.000 We're never going back.
00:17:07.000 It's done.
00:17:08.000 It's gone.
00:17:09.000 All of that is gone.
00:17:10.000 But I would call myself something like a Christian futurist instead, because Jesus Christ was our past before any of us were born or conceived.
00:17:20.000 Jesus Christ is our present now and Jesus Christ is our future after we die on earth.
00:17:27.000 We want this century to be the most Christian century in the history of planet earth.
00:17:41.000 We love everybody.
00:17:42.000 And we want people that can grow, really, more than anybody.
00:17:46.000 But this country can no longer be held hostage by a small minority that doesn't believe in the real value of life.
00:17:56.000 The mission of our movement is to make this country a Christian country.
00:18:01.000 The mission is to create a Christian, The only way we're going to do it is not by infiltrating, not by subverting, not by lying, which is what a lot of people do.
00:18:14.000 The only way that we're going to make this happen is with the boldness of a real Christian.
00:18:22.000 That's the only way.
00:18:26.000 We have to want it more than they do.
00:18:29.000 Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians
00:18:36.000 ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us and nothing will.
00:18:55.000 We've been put on notice, if you fuck around with us, if you do something bad to us,
00:18:59.000 we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.
00:19:03.000 Don't sit yet, you're like this.
00:19:05.000 We are the world's biggest hate law organization.
00:19:31.000 Conscious, globalist, Marxist, capitalist.
00:19:34.000 Communists who are attacking our civilization have no idea of the sleeping giant they have awoken.
00:19:45.000 They cannot even begin to imagine the brave and righteous spirit they've unleashed in men and women.
00:19:52.000 But they're going to find out the hard way.
00:19:55.000 They will find out like never before.
00:19:58.000 This nation belongs to you.
00:20:02.000 Belongs to you.
00:20:04.000 It's not too late.
00:20:16.000 It was patriots like you that built this country.
00:20:21.000 And it's patriots like you that are going to save our country.
00:20:25.000 To all of those who think that they can coerce and subjugate the citizens of this land, hear these words.
00:20:36.000 For me, tonight, the people of America will not surrender our borders.
00:20:42.000 We will not surrender our culture.
00:20:44.000 We will not surrender our faith.
00:20:47.000 We will not surrender our values.
00:20:51.000 We will not surrender our history.
00:20:53.000 We will not surrender our liberty.
00:20:56.000 And above all, we will not surrender our children.
00:21:00.000 We are done with their distorted visions for America.
00:21:04.000 It's time to start talking about greatness for our country again.
00:21:09.000 We want our country to be great again.
00:21:12.000 We want our country to be respected.
00:21:15.000 I don't want to see any love in your face.
00:21:18.000 What's the point of being so selfish?
00:21:21.000 What's the point of doing what I want to do?
00:21:24.000 What's the point of wasting my time for a waste?
00:21:27.000 The time for action has come.
00:21:32.000 As long as we are led by politicians who will not put America first,
00:21:40.000 then we can be assured that other nations will not treat America with respect,
00:21:47.000 the respect that we deserve.
00:21:51.000 We will not be swayed by the media.
00:22:26.000 Together, we have the same mission.
00:22:30.000 Over the course of your life, you will find that things are not always fair.
00:22:35.000 You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted.
00:22:43.000 But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight.
00:22:50.000 Never, ever, ever give up.
00:22:53.000 Don't give in, don't back down, and never stop doing what you know is right.
00:23:00.000 Nothing worth doing ever, ever, ever came easy.
00:23:06.000 And the more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face.
00:23:11.000 In your hearts are inscribed the values of service, sacrifice, and devotion.
00:23:17.000 Now you must go forth into the world and turn your hopes and dreams into action.
00:23:25.000 America has always been the land of dreams because America is a nation of true believers.
00:23:32.000 When the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth, They prayed.
00:23:37.000 When the founders wrote the Declaration of Independence, they invoked our creator four times.
00:23:46.000 Because in America, we don't worship government.
00:23:49.000 We worship God.
00:23:51.000 It is why our currency proudly declares, in God we trust.
00:23:57.000 And it's why we proudly proclaim that we are one nation under God.
00:24:03.000 The story of America is the story of an adventure that began with deep faith, big dreams, and humble beginnings.
00:24:16.000 The next generation of American leaders, never, ever give up.
00:24:22.000 There'll be times in your life you'll want to quit.
00:24:27.000 Never quit.
00:24:29.000 Never stop fighting for what you believe in and for the people who care about you.
00:24:35.000 Carry yourself with dignity and pride.
00:24:38.000 Demand the best from yourself.
00:24:41.000 The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong.
00:24:52.000 Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.
00:25:02.000 Relish the opportunity to be an outsider the more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong.
00:25:10.000 The more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead.
00:25:16.000 You must keep pushing forward.
00:25:20.000 And always have the courage to be yourself.
00:25:25.000 America is better when people put their faith into action.
00:25:32.000 Pray to God.
00:25:34.000 And follow his teachings.
00:25:36.000 Today, each of you begins a new chapter as well.
00:25:40.000 When your story goes from here, it will be defined by your vision, your perseverance, and your grit.
00:25:50.000 You will build a future where we have the courage to chase our dreams no matter what the cynics and the doubters have to say.
00:25:59.000 You will have the confidence to speak the hopes in your hearts and to express the love that stirs your souls.
00:26:09.000 As long as you have pride in your beliefs, courage in your convictions, and faith in God, Then you will not fail.
00:26:20.000 As long as America remains true to its values, loyal to its citizens, and devoted to its creator,
00:26:30.000 then our best days are yet to come.
00:26:35.000 Oh, America!
00:27:10.000 May God bless the United States of America.
00:27:15.000 And I just want to let you know that God blesses you.
00:27:20.000 And I want to just say you are special in every way.
00:27:25.000 God bless you and God bless America.
00:27:28.000 Thank you very much.
00:27:28.000 Thank you very much.
00:27:29.000 Thank you.
00:27:30.000 We are going to make our country great again.
00:27:49.000 Thank you.
00:29:00.000 I'm sorry, I'm amazing Hair always whippin' around
00:29:06.000 So high up, you're my genie I don't care if I ever come down
00:29:13.000 I don't care if I ever come down I don't care if I ever come down
00:29:31.000 Yeah Yeah
00:29:40.000 Love the flow Sixty-nine
00:30:01.000 Now it's time for new Believable people
00:30:05.000 And we must do it If we don't control insiders
00:30:09.000 This will be over and over To lead by an eddy
00:30:14.000 Big, fat, love, find common ground To halt the spread of lies
00:30:20.000 And we must do it Big, fat, love, find common ground
00:30:24.000 To halt the spread of lies America first! America first! America first! America first!
00:30:31.000 America first.
00:30:32.000 Non-fatal.
00:30:34.000 We want to build a much better, believable people.
00:30:38.000 And we must do it non-fatal.
00:30:41.000 Communication very much higher.
00:30:44.000 America first.
00:30:45.000 To lead it by an A. Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:30:49.000 Time to stop.
00:30:50.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:30:53.000 More of.
00:30:54.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:30:56.000 Time to stop.
00:30:58.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:31:01.000 First, love the flow.
00:31:06.000 69 now it's time for new believable people and we must do it if we don't control insiders this will be over and over to lead it by and any big fat love find common ground to halt the spread of lies and we must do it big fat love find common ground to halt the spread of lies and any America first.
00:31:39.000 Non-fatal.
00:31:40.000 We want to build a much better, believable people.
00:31:44.000 And we must do it non-fatal.
00:31:47.000 Communication very much higher.
00:31:50.000 America first.
00:31:51.000 To lead it by an A. Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:31:55.000 Time to stop.
00:31:57.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:31:59.000 More of.
00:32:01.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:32:03.000 Time to stop.
00:32:04.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:32:07.000 America first!
00:32:08.000 Love the flow.
00:32:14.000 President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States.
00:32:20.000 At real Donald Trump.
00:32:23.000 Well, at real Donald Trump.
00:32:26.000 At least I will go down as a president.
00:32:29.000 Now America is once again Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.
00:32:43.000 Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new
00:32:50.000 government controlled by you, the American people.
00:32:59.000 We will make America great again.
00:33:04.000 I love this country.
00:33:11.000 It's payback time.
00:33:14.000 We're going to do it again.
00:33:25.000 It's payback time.
00:33:26.000 We're gonna take our country back from these people.
00:33:32.000 He will never be president.
00:33:34.000 I will win.
00:33:35.000 For Spain.
00:33:36.000 for someone.
00:33:37.000 We're gonna win at so many levels.
00:33:38.000 We're gonna win, win, win.
00:33:39.000 We will make America great again.
00:33:40.000 I love you.
00:33:58.000 You're a hero.
00:34:00.000 Mr. President-elect?
00:34:14.000 You're a hero.
00:34:17.000 You know the ones who stand against us are the ones who give up.
00:34:23.000 You were out of my league, all the things I believed.
00:34:29.000 You were just the right guy, yeah, you were more than just a dream.
00:34:34.000 You were out of my league, got my heart beat racing.
00:34:40.000 If I die, don't wake me, cause you were more than just a dream.
00:34:45.000 You were more than just a dream.
00:36:08.000 So雨 So
00:36:20.000 So So
00:37:51.000 So Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.
00:38:16.000 The End The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead.
00:38:37.000 Because it's the outsiders who change the world, and who make a real and lasting difference.
00:38:44.000 Nothing worth doing ever came easy.
00:38:48.000 Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.
00:38:55.000 The future belongs to the people who follow their heart, no matter what the critics say.
00:39:01.000 We must always remember that we share one home, And one glorious destiny.
00:39:09.000 We all bleed the same red blood of patriots.
00:39:13.000 We all salute the same great American flag.
00:39:18.000 Our best days are yet to come.
00:39:43.000 I am officially running for President of the United States.
00:39:50.000 We need a leader.
00:39:55.000 I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
00:40:05.000 It can be wonderful if you have smart people.
00:40:10.000 But we have people that are stupid.
00:40:13.000 The American dream is dead.
00:40:21.000 But if I get elected president, I will bring it back.
00:40:27.000 Bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
00:40:34.000 The American dream.
00:40:44.000 And we will make America great again.
00:41:20.000 We will make America great again.
00:41:29.000 And we will make America great again.
00:41:36.000 We will make America great again.
00:41:43.000 We want Trump!
00:42:03.000 We want Trump!
00:42:15.000 And nobody builds walls better than me, believe me.
00:42:19.000 Bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
00:42:25.000 And we will make America great again.
00:42:29.000 Thank you. Thank you very much.
00:42:32.000 We will make America great again.
00:42:38.000 We will make America great again.
00:42:46.000 And we will make America great again.
00:43:39.000 America great again.
00:44:09.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.
00:44:15.000 It's a good thing.
00:44:16.000 It's going to be only America first.
00:44:21.000 America first.
00:44:25.000 The American people will come first once again.
00:44:30.000 With respect, the respect that we deserve.
00:44:41.000 From this day forward, it's going to be only America first.
00:44:54.000 America first!
00:44:56.000 AVAILABLE NOW!
00:45:38.000 You You
00:54:24.000 You Good evening, everybody.
00:54:27.000 You are watching America First.
00:54:29.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.
00:54:31.000 We have a great stream for you here tonight.
00:54:34.000 We're going to be watching the second presidential debate, Kamala versus Trump.
00:54:41.000 It's the moment you've all been waiting for.
00:54:43.000 And we're very excited.
00:54:47.000 It's... Is it really an hour away?
00:54:50.000 I thought it was... I thought it was at 7 o'clock.
00:54:56.000 But I guess it's at eight.
00:54:59.000 Countdown says an hour and nine.
00:55:00.000 I thought it was maybe I got Eastern Central Time wrong.
00:55:04.000 We're an hour away from the second presidential debate.
00:55:07.000 We're going to be talking all about the debate tonight, and then it's going to happen.
00:55:12.000 We're going to watch it.
00:55:14.000 We're going to do a little live analysis.
00:55:17.000 It's going to be a fun night.
00:55:19.000 Very exciting.
00:55:19.000 And we'll see who's in the live chat.
00:55:21.000 Check in in the live chat if you're here, if we have any e-celebrities.
00:55:26.000 Do we have any Groipers in the live chat?
00:55:28.000 Say what's up.
00:55:30.000 How's it going, guys?
00:55:33.000 They said 8 Eastern.
00:55:34.000 Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:55:35.000 They said 8 Eastern, which is in 10 minutes, so I don't know if the timer's off.
00:55:40.000 What's going on, everybody?
00:55:44.000 We got Irish Groiper.
00:55:45.000 We got NJF36 Sox Groiper.
00:55:50.000 Dutch Farmer.
00:55:52.000 Finn the Groiper, one of my favorites.
00:55:54.000 Shifty2.
00:55:56.000 Nathan Bunnell.
00:55:57.000 I don't think that's a real one.
00:55:58.000 Fischreuper.
00:55:59.000 There he is, of course.
00:56:00.000 Wizardly Woodchuck.
00:56:02.000 What's up?
00:56:03.000 PilotZoomer.
00:56:06.000 Everybody's here.
00:56:06.000 What's going on?
00:56:08.000 Everyone is here.
00:56:09.000 It's a huge night.
00:56:10.000 This is our second presidential debate.
00:56:16.000 Trump versus Kamala, who do you got?
00:56:18.000 Let's take a quick poll, and we're going to tune into some of the pre-game talk, and we'll talk a little bit about what we're going to see tonight.
00:56:27.000 But I want to take a quick poll while it's fresh, at the beginning.
00:56:32.000 Who do you guys think is going to win?
00:56:36.000 Just say Trump or Kamala.
00:56:40.000 Who do you think it's going to be?
00:56:43.000 I gave a little prediction last night during the Super Chats, informally, and I said I think Kamala's gonna win the debate.
00:56:53.000 Okay, it's actually kind of hard to see.
00:56:55.000 Say one for Trump, two for Kamala.
00:56:58.000 One if you think Trump will win the debate, two if you think Kamala will win.
00:57:04.000 Because the chat is moving so fast, I can't even read.
00:57:09.000 People are saying Trump or Kamala.
00:57:10.000 That didn't make it better.
00:57:11.000 Everyone's saying... Okay, it's still moving too fast.
00:57:16.000 Looks like a lot of ones, a lot of twos.
00:57:18.000 It's kind of mixed.
00:57:19.000 It's pretty mixed, actually.
00:57:21.000 I think it's about 50-50.
00:57:28.000 It's about 50-50.
00:57:30.000 Some say Trump, some say Kamala.
00:57:35.000 I don't know.
00:57:39.000 And what time actually is this debate?
00:57:42.000 Is it at?
00:57:43.000 I swore they said it was 8 o'clock Eastern Time.
00:57:49.000 Which is in five minutes, but this timer says it's an hour.
00:57:53.000 It's in an hour.
00:57:55.000 Let me check the other thing.
00:57:58.000 I'm not going to go to C-SPAN because they keep freaking DMCA-ing everything.
00:58:05.000 It said 9 Eastern.
00:58:06.000 Okay, that's weird.
00:58:09.000 Because I could have swore they said it was 8.
00:58:11.000 That's okay.
00:58:13.000 That means I'm an hour early.
00:58:14.000 That's how you get me to be an hour early.
00:58:16.000 They lie about the start time.
00:58:20.000 Didn't it say 8?
00:58:22.000 That's okay.
00:58:27.000 So we'll have an hour.
00:58:30.000 Debate's coming up.
00:58:32.000 And I want to give my take.
00:58:33.000 I guess I'll establish where I'm coming from with this debate, which is an hour away.
00:58:40.000 We'll look at Polly Market.
00:58:41.000 There's a lot of betting going on about what will be said tonight by either candidate.
00:58:49.000 People are placing their bets on what the people are going to say.
00:58:52.000 So we'll see.
00:58:54.000 But first, I want to talk a little bit about this debate.
00:58:58.000 It's obviously a momentous occasion.
00:59:02.000 Technically, the second presidential debate, the first one back in June, the Trump and Biden debate effectively ended the Biden campaign.
00:59:12.000 Biden didn't withdraw from the race until about three weeks later, almost a full month after the fact.
00:59:20.000 But we all know that technically the first presidential debate back in June Was curtains.
00:59:26.000 That was it for Joe Biden because he did so poorly.
00:59:29.000 But that was obviously unique to his condition.
00:59:33.000 Rapidly deteriorating mental condition.
00:59:37.000 I don't think the same thing will happen with Kamala or Trump.
00:59:41.000 But this is going to be a big night for Kamala.
00:59:46.000 Because it's going to be a contrast with Biden.
00:59:50.000 As we know, Joe Biden, it looked like he was almost certainly headed to a defeat before dropping out.
00:59:58.000 It seemed like even if he did drop out, the Democrats didn't stand a chance.
01:00:02.000 What has taken place since late July is a massive consolidation around Kamala in the Democratic Party.
01:00:11.000 And it actually took me by surprise.
01:00:14.000 I was less surprised than most, but I was a little bit surprised there was no contest.
01:00:20.000 It was not contentious.
01:00:22.000 There was not any, at least publicly, squabbling about who would be the nominee.
01:00:29.000 Because initially there were a lot of questions about who would take Joe Biden's place and if it was even possible and what that would look like.
01:00:38.000 And there were questions about the money and the ballot access and the legality.
01:00:43.000 And so although it was clear from the first debate that Joe Biden could not and probably would not be the candidate, it seemed like there was literally no other option.
01:00:54.000 Another option wasn't even possible.
01:00:58.000 But he mysteriously withdrew by signing a letter and then did a televised address a few days later.
01:01:06.000 The Democratic Party, within days, I would say within 72 hours, There was a consensus.
01:01:14.000 They consolidated around Kamala.
01:01:16.000 Joe Biden gave the endorsement.
01:01:19.000 All of the other would-be nominees, would-be contenders bowed out and endorsed Kamala.
01:01:25.000 It was really only the Obamas that were the holdouts.
01:01:28.000 The Obamas, Pelosi.
01:01:30.000 And they said that was out of respect for Biden.
01:01:33.000 Who knows if that's true, but that's what they said.
01:01:37.000 And so realistically, within 72 hours, they whipped everybody into shape.
01:01:40.000 They were all behind Kamala.
01:01:42.000 And what followed was virtually a month of total media domination.
01:01:50.000 And whereas Trump was at 75% in the odds, He was running away with it in the national and swing state polling.
01:01:59.000 What followed at the end of July and throughout the month of August is that Kamala completely flipped all of it.
01:02:05.000 She took the lead in the national and swing state polls.
01:02:09.000 She became the odds-on favorite in the betting markets.
01:02:13.000 There was so much media attention about her selection, and then the selection of the vice president, and then the convention.
01:02:23.000 And it looked like the Trump campaign was in serious trouble.
01:02:29.000 It appeared, I would say, by mid-August, just about a month after Biden withdrew, two months after the first debate, that it was her race to lose.
01:02:40.000 And all of the cope and rationalization about a honeymoon phase or about built-in advantages Seemed not to explain Kamala's meteoric rise.
01:02:54.000 But then the race flipped again.
01:02:58.000 And in just the past two weeks, it seems that Donald Trump has regained the initiative.
01:03:05.000 I don't know how, because I haven't seen anything change materially.
01:03:11.000 But he has undoubtedly regained the initiative, regained the momentum.
01:03:17.000 Trump has staged a massive comeback in the past three weeks.
01:03:21.000 And once again, the betting odds have flipped.
01:03:24.000 The polling has not quite flipped.
01:03:26.000 If you look at the average for national polling, Kamala still has the lead.
01:03:31.000 And if you look at the swing state polling, it's a dead heat.
01:03:36.000 So states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are a tie.
01:03:41.000 Georgia, Arizona, more favorable for Trump, but still a tie.
01:03:46.000 And so it looks like the race is literally a dead heat in just about every swing state.
01:03:52.000 Some favor Trump, some favor Kamala.
01:03:55.000 It looks like Arizona and Georgia Are probably going to Trump, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
01:04:03.000 Probably going to Kamala.
01:04:05.000 And Pennsylvania is right in the middle.
01:04:08.000 It could be the deciding election if that's how it breaks down and that's what the polling says is Trump and the betting markets too.
01:04:15.000 Trump is favored to win Arizona and Georgia, North Carolina and Nevada.
01:04:22.000 Kamala favored to win Michigan and Wisconsin.
01:04:26.000 Neither of them, with that map, have 270.
01:04:30.000 It all comes down to Pennsylvania.
01:04:31.000 That's according to the polling.
01:04:33.000 But of course, it's well within the margin of error, and it could swing either way in all of the states.
01:04:39.000 It could swing either way in any of those seven states.
01:04:44.000 Realistically, six.
01:04:46.000 I'd say Trump gets North Carolina regardless.
01:04:49.000 But Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, although they favor Trump, could go either way.
01:04:55.000 Michigan and Wisconsin favor Kamala.
01:04:58.000 Could go either way.
01:04:59.000 Pennsylvania is a dead heat in the polling as well.
01:05:03.000 So this is the state of the race, and there'll probably be, I would say, 20 to 30 million people watching.
01:05:11.000 I know that's a huge... Well, I think it could be 20 or 30 million, but I think realistically we're looking at maybe 25 million live viewers tonight.
01:05:21.000 It's going to be a massive, massive Platform for both of them.
01:05:28.000 And this is where Kamala maybe gets to make her introduction.
01:05:31.000 At the conventions, it was roughly tied.
01:05:34.000 Trump's speech at the final night of his convention in July got roughly 27 million viewers.
01:05:42.000 Kamala's speech on the final night of her convention last month got about 28 million viewers.
01:05:49.000 So roughly tied in convention viewership on average and on the final night during the speeches from the candidates.
01:05:56.000 So they both had okay conventions.
01:05:59.000 I think neither of the conventions really did anything for either of them.
01:06:05.000 If anything, the Democratic convention, all it did was demonstrate unity and strength in this very unusual cycle for the Democrats.
01:06:14.000 You have to say that much.
01:06:17.000 I think they played the greatest hits.
01:06:18.000 They talked about abortion.
01:06:20.000 They talked about Trump's criminality and personality.
01:06:25.000 But what it really did for the Democrats in this very unusual cycle where their incumbent nominee withdrew and they did not actually hold the primary contest, instead having to nominate The vice president.
01:06:40.000 It's very strange.
01:06:40.000 It did demonstrate some solidarity.
01:06:43.000 So, you know, I suppose that's a benefit for them.
01:06:46.000 But going into this debate, it's going to be a big night.
01:06:49.000 The first clash between the candidates.
01:06:51.000 And the thing is, we don't even know if we're going to get a second or a third debate.
01:06:56.000 Typically, you get four debates.
01:06:58.000 You get three general election presidential debates, and you get a vice presidential debate.
01:07:05.000 And Trump has already debated Biden once.
01:07:09.000 There's been a lot of back and forth between the two campaigns about this debate, which network would host it and what the rules would be and the date.
01:07:17.000 Trump initially said that he would not commit to the previously agreed upon date and host, which is ABC Tonight on September the 10th.
01:07:28.000 And after a strange one-sided negotiation, Trump finally came around and said that he would do this debate.
01:07:35.000 There was some discussion about the rules and whether microphones would be muted and about podiums, lifts, notes, things like that, but they ironed all of that out.
01:07:46.000 They are going to do it tonight, obviously.
01:07:49.000 Trump said at one point he was trying to get Kamala to do a Fox News debate on the 3rd.
01:07:54.000 That did not materialize.
01:07:55.000 He did a town hall instead.
01:07:57.000 And he suggested a third, or however you want to count it, a second presidential debate later this month.
01:08:05.000 I believe that's on the 26th, but the Kamala campaign has not agreed to that.
01:08:10.000 Vance and Walls have agreed to a vice presidential debate.
01:08:13.000 We are going to get that.
01:08:15.000 But this may be the one and only Trump and Kamala debate.
01:08:19.000 Worth remembering that in 2020, there were only two presidential debates.
01:08:24.000 They could not agree to a second one.
01:08:27.000 That was during COVID.
01:08:28.000 They couldn't agree to rules.
01:08:30.000 It was supposed to be remote, so they didn't do it.
01:08:33.000 So they did two.
01:08:35.000 And so this technically is the second one.
01:08:37.000 I don't know if we'll get a second or a third, a second Kamala or a third debate overall.
01:08:43.000 It may be the only night.
01:08:45.000 And it's a big night.
01:08:46.000 And so to get into the debate itself, so that's sort of where we are in the race.
01:08:51.000 That's how I would characterize this.
01:08:55.000 It's been a long journey.
01:08:56.000 We could go over the whole thing.
01:08:59.000 But all of the movement in the race began when the primary ended on the Republican side, and when the debate happened between Trump and Biden.
01:09:08.000 Trump surged, and his apogee was the failed assassination attempt.
01:09:14.000 That was probably the climax, high-water mark, ultimate moment.
01:09:20.000 And then I think Trump lost all momentum, all initiative, the following day.
01:09:27.000 Or you could say two days later at the start of the convention.
01:09:30.000 I think they blundered the convention.
01:09:32.000 They lost the momentum.
01:09:35.000 And then when Biden withdrew from the race, we saw the ascendancy of Kamala.
01:09:40.000 So you could say that June and July was Trump's.
01:09:43.000 August was Kamala's.
01:09:44.000 July, late July, early August was Kamala's.
01:09:48.000 Now it's a dead heat.
01:09:50.000 And that's, by the way, for people that are very, very pro-Trump, I'm calling it as it is.
01:09:56.000 I'm not saying this as pro-Kamala.
01:09:58.000 I obviously have my criticisms of Trump.
01:10:02.000 I'm calling the race, objectively speaking, we're just talking about the horse race here.
01:10:06.000 Or what do they call that?
01:10:08.000 I guess it's called the horse race.
01:10:12.000 And now it has become a tie in just about every way.
01:10:16.000 But this is a story that the numbers are telling.
01:10:18.000 The numbers are telling a story of Trump in the lead, Kamala overtakes.
01:10:24.000 Now it seems that they are tied.
01:10:27.000 And so, well, let's talk about this.
01:10:30.000 So these are the rules.
01:10:31.000 Like I said, there was a lot of debate about the debate.
01:10:36.000 Who would host it, when it would happen, and even about the rules.
01:10:40.000 And so these are going to be the rules tonight.
01:10:42.000 90 minutes, two breaks, no opening statements, two-minute answers, two-minute rebuttals, one-minute follow-ups.
01:10:51.000 And Trump will give the final closing statement.
01:10:54.000 So that means Harris will probably speak first.
01:10:56.000 And I believe the microphones are muted.
01:10:59.000 So just like with the first debate, there are no interruptions.
01:11:03.000 They can't interrupt because the microphones will be muted.
01:11:07.000 So those are the rules.
01:11:08.000 The rules are kind of gay.
01:11:13.000 I don't really like the rules.
01:11:17.000 So we'll talk about the state of the debate tonight.
01:11:22.000 I want to get into kind of how I expect it to play out.
01:11:25.000 Here we go.
01:11:25.000 Here's some more rules.
01:11:27.000 Microphones muted during the other candidates' turn.
01:11:30.000 No audience, no interaction with staff during the breaks.
01:11:35.000 The rules are a little bit gay, in my opinion.
01:11:40.000 And the reason why I say that is because I feel like Trump's greatest moments was when he was interrupting in the GOP primary debate in 2016.
01:11:55.000 I feel like those were his best debates, when he would interrupt and there was a back and forth.
01:12:02.000 But that's where things are now, so.
01:12:06.000 And here's the other thing which is interesting.
01:12:09.000 The Harris campaign insisted that the microphones not be muted.
01:12:15.000 It was the Trump campaign that wanted the microphones to be muted.
01:12:21.000 And I think that reflects the strategy.
01:12:24.000 So to get into the dynamics of the debate, let's talk about the first presidential debate back in June.
01:12:31.000 If you compare the first presidential debate between Trump and Biden this year with the first presidential debate between Trump and Biden in 2020, the difference is striking.
01:12:43.000 And if you were there in 2020, you know what I'm talking about.
01:12:48.000 That was maybe the most aggressive That I have ever seen the president in a primary or general election debate, maybe in any kind of exchange.
01:12:59.000 It was extremely hostile, extremely aggressive.
01:13:02.000 Trump was very overbearing to the point where it turned a lot of people off.
01:13:08.000 At least that was the consensus.
01:13:10.000 They said that Trump was all over Biden and they said it was too much.
01:13:14.000 This year, it's striking Trump did not interrupt And I would say he wasn't even a little bit aggressive at all.
01:13:24.000 Biden had a horrible performance back in June, and Trump notably did not capitalize on it.
01:13:31.000 Did not make any remarks, wasn't funny about it, wasn't personal, not a lot of insults.
01:13:40.000 This performance that Trump gave back in June, I would say was extremely muted.
01:13:47.000 Muted, subdued, laid back.
01:13:52.000 And I think this is indicative of a strategy.
01:13:56.000 I think this has been the strategy implemented by the senior campaign leadership, Jason Miller, Chris LaCivita, Susie Wiles.
01:14:06.000 They want a more laid-back Trump.
01:14:09.000 They want a more low-key, calm Trump.
01:14:13.000 They think that is Going to appeal more maybe to women, female voters.
01:14:20.000 It might appeal more to moderates.
01:14:24.000 But it is clearly a strategy.
01:14:26.000 And it has been consistent.
01:14:29.000 At the first debate, Trump was very subdued.
01:14:33.000 He only made one remark, and it was not even really a remark about Biden's senility.
01:14:39.000 They asked Trump what he said.
01:14:41.000 Trump said, oh, I don't know what he actually said.
01:14:44.000 And everyone got a big kick out of that, but that was mild.
01:14:48.000 That was light work from Trump.
01:14:51.000 That was nothing.
01:14:52.000 In 2016, he was talking about how big his penis was.
01:14:55.000 In 2016, he said, they said my hands are small and something else might be small.
01:15:01.000 There's no problem there.
01:15:03.000 He said Bush did 9-11.
01:15:05.000 And in this debate, the most he said was, oh, I don't know what he said, actually.
01:15:10.000 He doesn't know what he said either.
01:15:12.000 Everyone got a big kick out of it, but that was it.
01:15:15.000 It was mild.
01:15:16.000 It was light work.
01:15:18.000 And then, a month later during the convention, remember, the campaign leadership said that the message of the Republican convention would be unity.
01:15:28.000 They said they're not going to lean in.
01:15:30.000 They're not going to divide the country.
01:15:32.000 They said they're pushing unity and they're going to bring the country together.
01:15:36.000 They're going to use the opportunity to unite everybody.
01:15:40.000 And Trump said during his convention speech, he said, I'm not going to say my opponent's name.
01:15:47.000 He said, I'm going to say it just this once, but that's it.
01:15:50.000 And they insisted there would be no personal attacks.
01:15:53.000 They weren't going in on Biden.
01:15:54.000 They weren't going in.
01:15:57.000 With ad hominem insult personal attacks on the opponent.
01:16:03.000 And so that shows there's clearly a strategy.
01:16:06.000 There's an underlying consistent strategy.
01:16:10.000 And you can see it.
01:16:11.000 There was a tone shift sometime around May or June, where they said, we're going to lay off.
01:16:19.000 We're going to be low key.
01:16:21.000 Because at CPAC, he said, I will be a retribution.
01:16:26.000 Immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country.
01:16:29.000 Right?
01:16:32.000 And then at the debate, he laid off.
01:16:36.000 And it worked in that debate because Biden was senile.
01:16:40.000 It worked because Biden was failing.
01:16:42.000 So in that debate, you know, it actually made sense because they gave Biden just enough rope to hang himself.
01:16:48.000 They let him talk.
01:16:50.000 They let him fail.
01:16:51.000 And you could say that Trump didn't even win that debate so much as Biden lost it.
01:16:56.000 I don't think Trump and go and think back other than what I just said, and maybe the golf back and forth. There were no memorable moments from that
01:17:07.000 first debate. There was no grand slam by Trump. There wasn't even a home run. I don't even think
01:17:12.000 there was an on base.
01:17:13.000 There were two funny moments. They went back and forth about their golf swing.
01:17:17.000 Trump had that funny quip about Biden mumbling. But that was it.
01:17:25.000 Other than that, and I think those are those are footnotes.
01:17:27.000 That's pretty forgettable.
01:17:29.000 There was no home run by Trump.
01:17:31.000 I don't think he really did anything for himself other than he let Biden fail, and so it worked out.
01:17:38.000 I think intentional or not, it worked and it was appropriate for that setting, but it is part of a consistent and coordinated strategy.
01:17:47.000 They are trying to present a harmless.
01:17:51.000 Trump.
01:17:51.000 They're trying to present a mild, low-key Trump who is not radical, right down the middle, like he said, common sense.
01:18:00.000 And you can be the judge whether you think that's a good approach or not.
01:18:04.000 But a tone shift occurred in the spring, and that affected the debate performance and that affected the convention.
01:18:10.000 Now let's talk about the debate tonight.
01:18:13.000 I don't think that will serve him well tonight.
01:18:17.000 So establishing all of this, Trump's typical instincts in 16, in 2020, and I would say even during this primary, even during this Republican primary for the 2024 cycle, Trump's instinct is to be aggressive.
01:18:33.000 His instinct is to be overbearing, over the top, personal attacks, throw everything in the kitchen sink.
01:18:41.000 A tone shift occurred, and now they're going laid back.
01:18:46.000 That is probably going to be the approach tonight.
01:18:49.000 I'm sure that just like they advised him in the first debate and just like they've advised him at the convention and even at the rallies when Trump Trump polls the audience at the rally and says, should I do personal attacks?
01:19:02.000 They attack me.
01:19:03.000 I should be able to attack them.
01:19:05.000 My campaign doesn't want me to.
01:19:08.000 I'm sure this time, just like last time, he will defer to the campaign And he will not attack her personally.
01:19:15.000 I'm sure he will be laid back.
01:19:18.000 I don't think that will work for him.
01:19:20.000 And I'm gonna tell you why.
01:19:21.000 I think that Trump, when you look at the performance with Biden, in addition to being low key, he does not prepare.
01:19:32.000 In addition to being laid back, what we have seen over the last four years is that Trump is not as sharp.
01:19:41.000 And you know what?
01:19:42.000 Look, he's an older guy now.
01:19:44.000 He's been through a lot.
01:19:45.000 He's tired.
01:19:48.000 It's okay.
01:19:49.000 It makes sense.
01:19:50.000 But he's not as sharp as he used to be.
01:19:52.000 He's not as high energy as he used to be.
01:19:55.000 And just like always, he still doesn't prepare.
01:19:59.000 He used to be able to get away with it.
01:20:01.000 Because in 2016, he was very sharp, and he was quick.
01:20:06.000 And he had a good instinct.
01:20:08.000 And his advisors let him be himself.
01:20:11.000 But he's getting a little older, and he's getting a little slower, and he's getting a little quieter.
01:20:16.000 And he's not as fast as he used to be.
01:20:18.000 But just like before, he still does not like to prepare.
01:20:23.000 And as a result, it's getting sloppy.
01:20:26.000 He does not do a lot of opposition media for four years.
01:20:31.000 He rarely does interviews or press with hostile journalists.
01:20:36.000 Almost all his interviews are fawning supporters.
01:20:40.000 Twitch live streamers, YouTubers.
01:20:44.000 People like Lex Fridman, Fox News, rarely, other than the National Association for Black Journalists and maybe one or two other notable exceptions, he rarely does hostile interviews anymore.
01:20:58.000 What's more, he rarely stays on script anymore.
01:21:02.000 His RNC speech, the speech he gave at the convention, was sloppy.
01:21:07.000 He went off the teleprompter and it was a disaster.
01:21:11.000 He's been rambling.
01:21:13.000 And he's getting defensive about it, but it's true.
01:21:15.000 He's rambling.
01:21:17.000 He's meandering.
01:21:18.000 He's talking about Hannibal Lecter all the time.
01:21:21.000 He gets really defensive about them calling him weird.
01:21:24.000 It hasn't been 100% on the ball, let's be honest.
01:21:29.000 And you could go back to 2016.
01:21:31.000 And you'll know what I'm talking about.
01:21:33.000 If you watch his interviews in 2016, hostile, not hostile, he was sharp as a tack, he was quick, he was loud, he was forceful.
01:21:45.000 Something has been lost along the way, and I don't fault him for that.
01:21:49.000 Time comes for us all.
01:21:51.000 He's 10 years older now.
01:21:53.000 He's an 80-year-old man.
01:21:55.000 He's been through a lot.
01:21:57.000 It happens to everybody.
01:21:59.000 And the presidency ages you.
01:22:00.000 I can't imagine how much it ages you when you're literally getting shot at and sabotaged, but it is what it is.
01:22:07.000 And he's out of form.
01:22:08.000 He's like Batman in Dark Knight Rises.
01:22:12.000 I believe he is dangerously out of form and vulnerable.
01:22:15.000 And he still, don't get me wrong, he still got a little fire in his belly, obviously, when he got up and raised his fist.
01:22:21.000 He still got fire in his belly at the National Association for Black Journalists.
01:22:26.000 It wasn't a disaster.
01:22:27.000 He was able to hold his own.
01:22:30.000 But he's a little bit out of form.
01:22:32.000 He's sloppy.
01:22:33.000 And I'll say this.
01:22:35.000 That first debate with Biden, if Biden wasn't dying on the stage, it would have been a tie.
01:22:42.000 Go back and watch when Biden called him out for the suckers and losers comment.
01:22:46.000 Trump was on the back foot and defensive.
01:22:51.000 I don't think that was a particularly effective rebuttal, nor was it a pivot.
01:22:56.000 And I think that pound for pound, it was objectively isolating his performance.
01:23:02.000 It was not exceptional.
01:23:03.000 Forget Biden for a second.
01:23:05.000 Let's isolate Trump's performance.
01:23:06.000 It wasn't very good.
01:23:08.000 The convention speech was not very good.
01:23:11.000 These rallies are low energy.
01:23:14.000 And he's trying to keep the energy up.
01:23:16.000 He's trying, you know, the RFK thing was exciting.
01:23:19.000 I thought that was well done.
01:23:20.000 And I think he knows he's got a problem there and he's making an effort.
01:23:24.000 But he's been struggling a little bit.
01:23:27.000 And so I think that in this debate tonight, What is going to be make or break for him is if he prepared.
01:23:37.000 Because if he goes into this without preparation, like I think he will, like he did in the first debate, like he did at the RNC, I think he is going to get shlonged.
01:23:51.000 I think he is going to be woefully unable to counter what Kamala has to say.
01:23:59.000 And I hope that's not the case.
01:24:01.000 I hope he prepared.
01:24:03.000 But if you watched the first debate, it was unrehearsed.
01:24:08.000 It was all over the place.
01:24:09.000 It was rambling.
01:24:10.000 I'm sure he told his people, I got this, I got this.
01:24:13.000 He didn't have it.
01:24:14.000 He's lucky that Biden didn't show up that night, because Biden was somewhat competent at the State of the Union, and Biden was somewhat competent at the DNC.
01:24:24.000 I mean, he was competent enough, it was passable.
01:24:26.000 For some reason, maybe it's a conspiracy, he really didn't show up at that debate, and Trump got lucky.
01:24:33.000 Because if Biden showed up, he'd still be in the race.
01:24:36.000 He'd still be running.
01:24:37.000 And it'd be a different story.
01:24:39.000 And that's just the truth.
01:24:41.000 For whatever reason, the drugs didn't kick in.
01:24:44.000 Maybe they gave him a placebo.
01:24:46.000 Who knows?
01:24:48.000 Biden did not show up.
01:24:49.000 And it's not because he can't.
01:24:51.000 I mean, he's still able to muddle through.
01:24:53.000 He did okay at the DNC, did a lot better than he did at the debate.
01:24:57.000 But Biden didn't show up, and that helped Trump.
01:25:00.000 And Trump was able to skirt by.
01:25:02.000 All the attention was on Biden.
01:25:03.000 But if Trump does what he did in June tonight, Kamala's not dead.
01:25:08.000 She's not senile.
01:25:10.000 She might be drunk.
01:25:10.000 She might be crazy.
01:25:12.000 But she's gonna show up.
01:25:15.000 And she's gonna show up prepared.
01:25:17.000 And she's a good actor.
01:25:19.000 Actress.
01:25:21.000 You may not believe it, but you know who believes it?
01:25:23.000 Women.
01:25:25.000 Women believe it.
01:25:27.000 And you don't believe me?
01:25:28.000 Take a look.
01:25:28.000 The gender gap is widening.
01:25:31.000 Males preferring Trump, females preferring Kamala.
01:25:35.000 Black female voter registration is up 175%.
01:25:37.000 Women across the board, it's up 100%.
01:25:42.000 I know guys like you and I, we look at, for all the guys watching this, we look at Kamala and say she's a Looney Tunes retard.
01:25:53.000 A lot of shit libs and women buy it.
01:25:59.000 Take a look at the coconut thing.
01:26:00.000 They eat that up and they're hungry for it.
01:26:03.000 She's this campy girl boss, she's gonna give them exactly what they want.
01:26:10.000 So Kamala is going to show up tonight and she's going to be Kamala and she's hungry and she wants it.
01:26:16.000 She would kill to be president and she's going to act like it tonight.
01:26:20.000 She's going to be prepared.
01:26:21.000 She's going to be rehearsed.
01:26:22.000 She's going to hit the greatest hits and her audience is going to love it.
01:26:27.000 Now the question is, is Trump going to show up prepared?
01:26:30.000 Because here's what's going to happen.
01:26:33.000 Abortion is going to come up.
01:26:36.000 It just simply will.
01:26:38.000 Abortion will come up, and Kamala is gonna fight to make it as much about abortion and IVF as possible.
01:26:46.000 And you know what?
01:26:48.000 Whatever you feel about abortion, and whatever you feel about Trump, it's a thorny issue.
01:26:56.000 Politically speaking.
01:26:57.000 Morally speaking, it's very cut and dry.
01:27:00.000 Morally speaking, abortion is obviously immoral.
01:27:04.000 But politically, it is very thorny.
01:27:07.000 Because most women want a right to an abortion.
01:27:11.000 Even if they're pro-life.
01:27:12.000 Even if they're conservative.
01:27:14.000 Even if they're in a red state.
01:27:15.000 I mean, you can't win an abortion referendum in a state like Oklahoma.
01:27:19.000 And that's because of women.
01:27:21.000 That's because women are turning out and they're voting for it.
01:27:24.000 So it has become, ever since June 2022, a very thorny issue.
01:27:31.000 And it is clear, based on Trump's flip-flop last week on the Florida referendum, on the amendment in their state constitution, it is clear by what Vance said on the Sunday shows a couple weeks ago, they still have not engineered a good answer.
01:27:51.000 Vance was asked on one of the Sunday shows, what if a federal abortion ban comes across your desk?
01:27:58.000 Will Trump veto it?
01:27:59.000 And Vance said, yes, he'll veto it.
01:28:02.000 Not good.
01:28:03.000 That was not a good answer.
01:28:05.000 Did they anticipate that?
01:28:08.000 If they didn't, they should have.
01:28:11.000 And if they anticipated it, did they not rehearse an answer?
01:28:15.000 If they didn't, they should have.
01:28:17.000 But that shows they're not preparing.
01:28:19.000 That shows they're still not media trained.
01:28:22.000 It's a thorny issue.
01:28:23.000 You can't skate by on this one.
01:28:26.000 You can't wing it on this one because you need just the right touch to not alienate the pro-lifers, which Trump has done.
01:28:36.000 He's losing support with Catholics over this.
01:28:38.000 He's losing support with evangelicals.
01:28:41.000 They might not turn out to vote.
01:28:43.000 It's a real concern.
01:28:46.000 At the same time, if he doesn't appease the left a little bit, he's going to activate women, and all these women voters are going to turn out, and it's going to be a problem for him.
01:28:57.000 So it's a very tricky thing.
01:28:59.000 You need the right touch, you need to think about it in advance, and you need to choose your words carefully and say them exactly.
01:29:07.000 And if Trump isn't preparing, he won't do that.
01:29:11.000 And if he doesn't do that, he's gonna step in shit.
01:29:14.000 And who knows if it, but he could really get caught on that.
01:29:18.000 I don't know.
01:29:18.000 You know, he might be able to skate by.
01:29:20.000 He's pretty smart.
01:29:21.000 He might be able to skate by, but that is a real vulnerability.
01:29:25.000 And that's what I'm worried about because the Democrats, they want this race to be about abortion.
01:29:30.000 They can't run on Biden's record.
01:29:32.000 They can't run on the economy.
01:29:34.000 They can't run on Kamala's record.
01:29:36.000 She's the vice president now and everything sucks.
01:29:39.000 They can't run on foreign policy.
01:29:41.000 I mean, they have nothing to run on.
01:29:44.000 So what they're doing is they're making it all about abortion.
01:29:47.000 That's what their convention was about.
01:29:49.000 And they're baiting Trump and Vance into this trap.
01:29:53.000 And now everyone's talking about IVF and abortion bans.
01:29:59.000 And this is playing right into the Democrats hands.
01:30:01.000 And if they're not careful, Trump is going to be really vulnerable because you know, I mean, take a look at team Kamala.
01:30:07.000 Take a look at team Harris tonight.
01:30:09.000 They are going over and over again and again, the script on abortion.
01:30:15.000 It's going to be a sob story.
01:30:17.000 It's going to be about You know, but I talked to the women like so-and-so in something Ohio, in Ohio.
01:30:24.000 I talked to so-and-so in Ohio who, you know, her life was at risk because of a pregnancy, but the doctor said they couldn't perform it because the radicals on the court overturned Roe.
01:30:37.000 It's going to be something like that.
01:30:41.000 And there's going to be a temptation by Trump to say something to outflank Kamala, and it's going to alienate the base.
01:30:50.000 And it might be rough.
01:30:51.000 It's a big vulnerability, and I know they're not preparing for it.
01:30:55.000 I hope that they are.
01:30:58.000 They're probably, on Team Trump, preparing to blast Kamala for her record.
01:31:03.000 They're preparing to blast her on inflation, grocery prices, gas prices.
01:31:09.000 But you know what?
01:31:12.000 That doesn't work.
01:31:14.000 We'll see what happens tonight.
01:31:16.000 Maybe he'll find a way to make it hurt.
01:31:18.000 And you know what?
01:31:18.000 The moderators the last time were decent.
01:31:21.000 I thought CNN the last time, I never thought I'd say it, they did a great job in June.
01:31:26.000 Maybe they'll be fair, but ABC's pretty biased.
01:31:29.000 If the moderators are fair, maybe they'll be able to make it stick on Kamala.
01:31:34.000 But I'm reminded of the 2012 debate with Obama and Romney.
01:31:40.000 The Obama-Romney debate in 2012, it's exactly like this, in the sense that you have an incumbent, the economy sucks, we're basically in a recession, just like we were then.
01:31:54.000 In 2012, we were still in a recession.
01:31:57.000 All the numbers were bad.
01:31:59.000 Obama was the incumbent, and Romney really had him, because Romney's, what is he, private equity?
01:32:07.000 You know, he's a businessman, and he's the opposition, he's Republican, whatever.
01:32:13.000 But it wasn't enough.
01:32:16.000 Because as always, you know what the Democrats do?
01:32:19.000 They lie.
01:32:20.000 You talk about inflation, and they go, uh, yeah, well, technically that number's not right, and blah blah blah.
01:32:30.000 They talk about eating the rich, they talk about the rich paying their fair share, they talk about the middle class, And look at what Kamala's doing.
01:32:37.000 She's shamelessly ripping all the Trump policies.
01:32:40.000 Trump said, I'm going to cut the tax on tips.
01:32:42.000 Kamala said, I'm going to cut the tax on tips.
01:32:45.000 Trump said, I'm going to cut the corporate tax rate.
01:32:47.000 Well, I mean, Kamala said she's going to raise taxes, but not as much as Biden.
01:32:52.000 She's going to raise it to 33% on capital gains, and she's going to raise taxes, what is it, 25% on unrealized capital gains for people of $100 million or more, and all this kind of stuff.
01:33:09.000 But she is ripping a lot of the policies.
01:33:11.000 She's going to talk about price gouging.
01:33:13.000 She's going to talk about the Paul Ryan tax cut and how it's for corporations and for the rich, your rich friends, blah, blah.
01:33:21.000 That's always a playbook.
01:33:23.000 And, uh, people are gonna eat that up.
01:33:27.000 It's not gonna get anybody jazzed up.
01:33:29.000 Everybody that cares about the economy is already voting for Trump.
01:33:33.000 Newsflash.
01:33:35.000 Everyone that gives a shit about the economy, already voting for Trump.
01:33:39.000 Just like they were already voting for Romney.
01:33:43.000 And Kamala's excuses on the economy are going to work for her target demographic.
01:33:48.000 So I don't think there's going to be a grand slam in there.
01:33:53.000 Now, if Trump were smart, he would force the contradiction on Gaza.
01:34:05.000 That would be the opportunity.
01:34:08.000 The vulnerability is abortion.
01:34:11.000 That's the big vulnerability.
01:34:13.000 Personal attacks.
01:34:14.000 He just has to find a way to disarm and defuse those.
01:34:18.000 I don't think that... What he's going to go on is record.
01:34:21.000 He's going to hit her on her record.
01:34:22.000 He's going to hit her on taxes.
01:34:23.000 He's going to hit her on inflation.
01:34:25.000 And it's fine.
01:34:28.000 But I don't think it's going to be a home run.
01:34:30.000 The real opportunity, the one that I know he won't take, is on Gaza.
01:34:35.000 Because that is where you can really exploit the cleavage in the Democratic Party.
01:34:40.000 Between the radicals, the Muslims who are in Michigan, the progressives, the far left, and the establishment and the Jewish money and Wall Street and Silicon Valley who she's been trying to court.
01:34:55.000 That would be the smart thing.
01:34:58.000 For obvious reasons, he can't really do that.
01:35:01.000 Because he's a Zionist.
01:35:02.000 He's more of a Zionist than she is.
01:35:05.000 And he's more indebted to the Israel lobby than she is.
01:35:11.000 But if he were smart, that would be the real opportunity.
01:35:14.000 And I don't say that just because I'm a critic of the Jewish lobby and all of that.
01:35:21.000 But I say that because that is Just beneath the surface, what is driving the news?
01:35:27.000 That is what is driving Silicon Valley into Trump's arms.
01:35:30.000 That's what's driving a lot of the Jewish money behind Trump.
01:35:33.000 That is what is driving, I think, a lot of Republicans like Nikki Haley and Fox to support New York Post to support Trump.
01:35:41.000 That's what's driving the news, and so I think that would be the opportunity.
01:35:46.000 So that's how I think it's going to play out.
01:35:49.000 Say what you want about Kamala.
01:35:51.000 She's gonna come with a script.
01:35:53.000 She's gonna have a script.
01:35:55.000 She's gonna have her talking points.
01:35:56.000 She's prepared.
01:35:57.000 She's rehearsed.
01:35:59.000 She doesn't have a job.
01:36:00.000 She's the vice president.
01:36:01.000 Who even knows who's running the country?
01:36:03.000 It's not him.
01:36:04.000 It's not her.
01:36:07.000 So you know that ever since, probably for years, she's been preparing for this, and she did a pretty good job against Mike Pence four years ago.
01:36:17.000 So she's going to bring it.
01:36:18.000 She's not going to be like Joe Biden.
01:36:20.000 She's going to be campy.
01:36:23.000 She's going to be serving stuff.
01:36:28.000 The fags and the women and the blacks are going to eat it up.
01:36:35.000 And we need Trump to show up and be Trump.
01:36:38.000 But I don't think he's going to.
01:36:40.000 I think he's going in half cocked.
01:36:42.000 Half-baked.
01:36:44.000 I think he's going to go in muted.
01:36:46.000 He's going to go in running this playbook about no personal attacks and focus on the record and keep it straight down the middle and this and that.
01:36:56.000 It's not what comes naturally to him.
01:36:58.000 I think he's going to be inadequately prepared.
01:37:06.000 And I think he has this tendency now to ramble and I think that is going to hurt his efficacy.
01:37:13.000 So I think, you know, the odds don't favor him tonight.
01:37:19.000 But we'll see.
01:37:20.000 I may be surprised.
01:37:21.000 And we'll obviously be doing a live commentary.
01:37:24.000 So we're going to see in just 20, the debate is just 27 minutes away.
01:37:28.000 So if you're just joining us, I love doing that.
01:37:32.000 If you're just joining us, the second presidential debate is 27 minutes away.
01:37:37.000 We're doing a little pregame analysis.
01:37:40.000 We have covered the state of the race.
01:37:43.000 Predicting some of the dynamics of the debate, giving a little prediction.
01:37:47.000 We took a poll at the beginning of the stream.
01:37:50.000 It looked about even.
01:37:51.000 Let's take another quick poll based on everything you're hearing, and now we have about 6,000 new live viewers in here.
01:37:58.000 What do you guys think?
01:37:59.000 Press 1 in the chat if you think Trump will win the debate tonight.
01:38:02.000 Press 2 if you think Kamala will win the debate.
01:38:06.000 And we'll take another quick poll.
01:38:08.000 At the beginning of the hour, it was very split.
01:38:11.000 It was about 50-50, but after hearing this with some new people in here, what do you think?
01:38:16.000 I'm seeing a lot of twos.
01:38:17.000 A lot of people agree with me.
01:38:18.000 me. A lot of twos now. Some ones, I would say it's about 60-30.
01:38:33.000 So, thank you.
01:38:36.000 So, here's the thing.
01:38:38.000 You never underestimate Trump.
01:38:41.000 Because Trump, he has a unique ability.
01:38:45.000 It's like a video game.
01:38:48.000 And he has a unique ability.
01:38:50.000 He reached level 100 and he unlocked his legendary ability.
01:38:55.000 And his legendary ability is this wild card.
01:39:00.000 He's got this unbelievable instinct.
01:39:04.000 That's what made him president.
01:39:05.000 And if you look at the stuff in 2016, he was sharp.
01:39:08.000 They called him Teflon.
01:39:10.000 They called him Teflon Don because nothing could stick.
01:39:14.000 Nothing could penetrate.
01:39:15.000 Nothing could.
01:39:16.000 They call them can't stump the Trump.
01:39:21.000 They said there are no breaks on the Trump train.
01:39:25.000 It's always going.
01:39:27.000 And that's because somehow, no matter what, any situation he got into, he was able to get out of unscathed.
01:39:36.000 It almost got to a point where people believed in magic.
01:39:39.000 They called it meme magic.
01:39:41.000 They said that Kek, the chaos god, was being channeled.
01:39:47.000 And they said it's a supernatural ability.
01:39:50.000 They said that, and I don't know, this is a little nugget for you guys who are new.
01:39:55.000 This is a nugget for some of you new Groypers.
01:40:00.000 It was not unfounded that Trump was magic in 2016.
01:40:03.000 I know that sounds crazy.
01:40:05.000 I know liberals might listen to this and say, oh brother, these people are insane.
01:40:10.000 Let me tell you something that I think will kind of blow you away.
01:40:15.000 And this is going to be, uh, I'm dating myself a little bit here.
01:40:19.000 It's kind of unk status.
01:40:21.000 But back in 2016, during the election, everybody was on 4chan.
01:40:26.000 Everybody was on the politically incorrect board on 4chan called Poll, right?
01:40:32.000 Everybody was on Poll.
01:40:35.000 And Poll, if you don't know, is an anonymous messaging board.
01:40:38.000 It's like a forum.
01:40:40.000 And people post anonymously.
01:40:42.000 Every time somebody posts on Poll, it assigns a random number.
01:40:48.000 It's RNG.
01:40:49.000 It's a random number generated.
01:40:51.000 Technically, it's the order of the posts.
01:40:54.000 But since there are so many posts, it's random.
01:40:58.000 It's not like, you know, so you post it, and it's the 132nd message, and then you post again, it's the 250th message.
01:41:06.000 There's so many messages, it's like rolling the dice.
01:41:09.000 It's like an RNG.
01:41:11.000 Well, in 2016, somebody posted, Trump will win.
01:41:19.000 And it used to be considered that if the last two digits of this very long number string, this RNG, were the same.
01:41:29.000 They would call that dupes, duplicates.
01:41:31.000 And they would say digits confirm. If you posted something and the last two numbers,
01:41:37.000 which are random, of your message were the same, were duplicate or triplicate, if it was three,
01:41:43.000 they would say it's confirmed. It's going to happen. By meme magic, because you got
01:41:52.000 the same number, whatever was posted in the message, the content of the message must be true.
01:41:58.000 Well, somebody posted in 2016, long before the election, they said, Trump will win.
01:42:04.000 And that was the 7,777,777th message that was ever posted on poll.
01:42:18.000 It was seven-sevenths.
01:42:19.000 Thanks.
01:42:21.000 What?
01:42:21.000 And that's all it said.
01:42:23.000 It said Trump will win.
01:42:25.000 Nothing else.
01:42:26.000 Trump will win.
01:42:28.000 And it was the 7,777,777th post on poll.
01:42:29.000 Seven sevens.
01:42:30.000 God's perfect number.
01:42:30.000 God's complete number.
01:42:31.000 Seven sevens.
01:42:32.000 7777 post on poll 7 sevens God's perfect number God's complete number seven
01:42:42.000 sevens and it said Trump will win and you know you could say that's like a
01:42:47.000 coincidence you know maybe it was But it was pretty, it was pretty crazy.
01:42:53.000 And so anyway, so back in 2016, everybody said it's this guy has some supernatural ability.
01:43:00.000 And I, on some level still do believe that like Trump is still able to pull things out, even like the assassination attempt, turning his head.
01:43:11.000 And getting grazed by... He bled, so he got hit.
01:43:16.000 It's weird that there's no scar, but whatever.
01:43:19.000 He got grazed by a bullet, literally because he turned his head like this.
01:43:24.000 It was an inch away from blowing up his fucking head on TV.
01:43:28.000 Sorry for the language, but what happened?
01:43:32.000 Showing a chart with illegal immigration, and then he gets up with the fist out.
01:43:39.000 Wait, wait!
01:43:41.000 Fight!
01:43:44.000 So don't get me wrong.
01:43:47.000 I think Trump has gotten very sloppy.
01:43:50.000 He's gotten very old.
01:43:53.000 He's slowing down.
01:43:54.000 I think his advisors are steering him into the rocks, maybe intentionally, maybe unintentionally, and he's complicit in it.
01:44:03.000 So, there's a lot of dysfunction.
01:44:05.000 There always has been.
01:44:06.000 There has always been dysfunction, disorganization.
01:44:10.000 There's been a lot of bullshit surrounding Trump from the very beginning.
01:44:16.000 But somehow, he's always pulled it out.
01:44:20.000 At the critical moment, always.
01:44:23.000 Always.
01:44:24.000 From the first debate, when he got up there and said, only Rosie O'Donnell.
01:44:31.000 All the way to the Billy Bush tape when he said, you'd be in jail.
01:44:36.000 And that was the night he won the debate.
01:44:38.000 People don't think of it that way, but that's what happened.
01:44:42.000 Because they were going to throw him off the ticket.
01:44:44.000 Paul Ryan made the call to the whole conference.
01:44:47.000 They said, don't support him, support down ballot.
01:44:49.000 Mike Pence was missing in action.
01:44:51.000 It came down to that second debate.
01:44:53.000 And when he said that, it was fucking over.
01:44:57.000 He said, because you'd be in jail and it was over.
01:45:03.000 And that's just what he does.
01:45:05.000 He gets lucky.
01:45:06.000 He says something.
01:45:08.000 It's an instinct.
01:45:10.000 Now, it didn't happen in 2020.
01:45:11.000 Obviously.
01:45:15.000 And I think the problems have gotten a lot worse.
01:45:17.000 I'm not trying to sell people on copium, but he does have this wild card ability.
01:45:22.000 Like I said, this is like his legendary perk.
01:45:25.000 He's a level 100 mage.
01:45:28.000 He's a level 100 paladin.
01:45:30.000 And his legendary perk is wild card.
01:45:34.000 When his HP gets below 10 points, he has a 50% chance of getting a critical hit.
01:45:41.000 This is what we're dealing with.
01:45:42.000 So, um, That being said, there's still two months before the election, so maybe it's not- maybe he hasn't hit the cooldown timer yet.
01:45:52.000 The cooldown timer hasn't run out yet.
01:45:56.000 You know?
01:45:58.000 He hasn't recharged that ability yet.
01:46:00.000 When it gets to November, when it's like two seconds before the election, then it'll activate, right?
01:46:06.000 But, um, so we'll see.
01:46:09.000 I think he's going to lose the debate tonight.
01:46:11.000 I think it's going to be rough.
01:46:13.000 This is an unknown quantity for him.
01:46:16.000 He's never debated her.
01:46:17.000 He debated Hillary Clinton, but she was a little different.
01:46:21.000 He debated Biden.
01:46:22.000 I don't even think he did well there.
01:46:23.000 I think he did poorly in 2020.
01:46:26.000 I think he did poorly in June.
01:46:28.000 I think he got lucky that Biden sucked.
01:46:32.000 Maybe he got unlucky, depending on how you look at it.
01:46:36.000 But I think he did poorly at the debate.
01:46:38.000 I think he did poorly at the convention.
01:46:40.000 I think his campaign is being run very poorly.
01:46:43.000 I think he is sloppy, rambling, unprepared.
01:46:46.000 But you can never totally count him out because he has this instinct which, you know, when he listens to his gut, he's very powerful.
01:46:58.000 When he's listening to his advisors, when he's doing what he thinks he's supposed to, no magic.
01:47:05.000 And he always has, somehow, this ability to pull it out.
01:47:08.000 It is almost magical.
01:47:09.000 And you can never fully discount it.
01:47:12.000 If you don't believe me, look at him now.
01:47:15.000 Look at him now.
01:47:16.000 Look at the New York Times-Siena poll yesterday.
01:47:20.000 He's leading nationally, according to the New York Times poll.
01:47:24.000 And this is after Jay Sixth.
01:47:27.000 Four indictments.
01:47:30.000 Assassination attempt.
01:47:32.000 This crazy rape civil suit.
01:47:35.000 After everything.
01:47:36.000 Refusing to concede.
01:47:37.000 The meltdowns.
01:47:40.000 Some would say it was his race to lose.
01:47:42.000 I mean, there's no guarantee he was ever going to be the nominee after everything that happened.
01:47:48.000 Because he is immortal.
01:47:50.000 So...
01:47:52.000 You can never count him out.
01:47:53.000 So I would say that I'm going to hedge a little bit and I'm going to say I think it's not going to go well, but I'm going to hedge and say there's always the chance that he could really pull it out and surprise.
01:48:05.000 So I wouldn't be totally shocked if that happened, but I think it's not likely.
01:48:10.000 That's my—so I'm going to give it—I'm going to say Kamala has like a 70% chance of winning the debate.
01:48:16.000 But I want to talk a little bit about some of the betting market stuff.
01:48:20.000 We'll go on Twitter.
01:48:21.000 The debate is 15 minutes away.
01:48:23.000 Those are my predictions.
01:48:24.000 I'm locking it in.
01:48:26.000 I'm going to say Kamala's got a 70% chance of winning.
01:48:29.000 I think Trump has—Kamala's 70-80.
01:48:32.000 I would say Trump is 30-20 chance of winning.
01:48:36.000 And we're going to take a look at Polly Market because this is interesting.
01:48:41.000 Polly Market is probably by volume the biggest online betting exchange about the election.
01:48:50.000 I believe that's the case.
01:48:52.000 I'm not 100% sure on that.
01:48:54.000 But Polly Market is owned by Peter Thiel.
01:48:57.000 I believe they don't let you trade in the United States.
01:49:00.000 You're only allowed to trade outside the United States.
01:49:06.000 Take that with a grain of salt.
01:49:08.000 And their odds differ from predicted and from other betting markets.
01:49:13.000 It's a little strange.
01:49:16.000 But this is what the betting markets say about the debate tonight.
01:49:19.000 What will Kamala say?
01:49:21.000 89% say abortion.
01:49:22.000 57% say convicted felon.
01:49:22.000 abortion. 57% say convicted felon. 82% I should probably, is there any way I can rank it by
01:49:32.000 chance? Project 2025, 82%.
01:49:39.000 Inflation, 89%.
01:49:41.000 Democracy, of course, 81%.
01:49:43.000 Not going back.
01:49:45.000 Ceasefire.
01:49:47.000 McDonald's.
01:49:47.000 11% chance you'll say Bitcoin.
01:49:52.000 Weird.
01:49:55.000 That's what she's favored to say.
01:49:58.000 A $2.2 million bet.
01:50:02.000 Or I suppose that's volume.
01:50:06.000 And then on Trump, 84% say abortion.
01:50:10.000 Or rather, it's an 84% chance.
01:50:14.000 84% say that he will say abortion.
01:50:16.000 See, so, there is agreement.
01:50:19.000 It's like I said, that abortion is gonna be a big part of the debate, and I think he's vulnerable because he's not prepared.
01:50:27.000 That's something that they've struggled with.
01:50:29.000 They have not come up with an answer on it.
01:50:31.000 Not a good one.
01:50:34.000 As evidenced by what he said, Voting on the Florida referendum, they still haven't locked in an answer, and they need to.
01:50:42.000 So I hope they've done that.
01:50:43.000 If they don't, it's gonna hurt them.
01:50:45.000 Mark my words.
01:50:47.000 If they have not improved, if they haven't written and rehearsed a response on abortion, and if they haven't gamed it out, if they haven't done leveling, and said, you know, if she says this, I say this, and then she'll say this, then I say this, if they haven't done that, He's going to struggle, and it's going to hurt him.
01:51:07.000 And it's going to be difficult to win on that one, because you really got to thread the needle to not piss off the Christians, but also not activate the screeching harpies on the left.
01:51:19.000 So, everyone agrees.
01:51:22.000 The moderators are going to come after him on that.
01:51:24.000 Kamala's going to come after him on that.
01:51:26.000 If he doesn't have something convincing, it's going to be ugly.
01:51:31.000 He's going to say, border czar.
01:51:32.000 He'll hit her on the border.
01:51:36.000 Border over 15 times.
01:51:38.000 I don't think he'll say it 15 times.
01:51:41.000 China, three plus times.
01:51:44.000 So there's a little Israel, 91%.
01:51:46.000 There you go.
01:51:47.000 A little bit more uncertainty about what Trump will say.
01:51:50.000 Everybody seems to be confident that Kamala is going to say abortion.
01:51:54.000 Project 2025, inflation, democracy.
01:52:00.000 There seems to be a bit more uncertainty about what Trump will say.
01:52:03.000 I suppose he's a wild card.
01:52:07.000 They're betting on whether he'll say Haitian.
01:52:09.000 Haitian, Springfield.
01:52:11.000 I don't think he'll talk about that.
01:52:13.000 Cat.
01:52:14.000 I don't think he's going to talk about that.
01:52:16.000 I think that's unlikely.
01:52:19.000 Marxist.
01:52:20.000 I think that'll go out there.
01:52:21.000 I don't think he'll say MAGA three times.
01:52:28.000 He might say it once or twice.
01:52:33.000 A lot of money to be made on some of this, I think, right?
01:52:37.000 But... So that's what the betting markets say.
01:52:40.000 It's sort of interesting.
01:52:41.000 So they predict that abortion, border, inflation, and Israel will be the big issues.
01:52:50.000 We'll see what the focus is tonight.
01:52:52.000 What the topics will be.
01:52:53.000 But that is where we stand right now.
01:52:56.000 We'll take a look on Twitter.
01:52:57.000 We'll see what some of the chatter is.
01:53:04.000 Let's see.
01:53:06.000 Debate 2024.
01:53:07.000 Hey, that's me!
01:53:16.000 Laser eyes.
01:53:21.000 Trump should walk out holding a cat.
01:53:25.000 And then, that would be hilarious.
01:53:28.000 And then, and then what if he like, what if he would like.
01:53:35.000 Yeah, that'd be hilarious.
01:53:36.000 For the cat, cat memes.
01:53:45.000 We're doing cat memes now.
01:53:48.000 Did he really post this?
01:53:49.000 That's funny.
01:53:51.000 That's kind of funny.
01:53:52.000 It's really stupid.
01:53:53.000 Like the AI cat thing is really dumb.
01:53:56.000 Like making cat memes is stupid.
01:53:58.000 It's like insufferable boomer cringe, but it is kind of funny that he posted it.
01:54:06.000 It's kind of funny.
01:54:07.000 Look, I'm not a Trump hater.
01:54:10.000 I'm really not.
01:54:10.000 I don't hate Trump.
01:54:11.000 I love Trump.
01:54:13.000 I am a big critic because I want him to succeed.
01:54:17.000 I want him to thrive.
01:54:19.000 I want him to win.
01:54:21.000 But I also want him to be the champion of America first.
01:54:24.000 So everybody's pigeonholed me.
01:54:26.000 They say, you're a Trump hater.
01:54:28.000 You're for Kamala.
01:54:29.000 I do not want Kamala to win.
01:54:31.000 I do not like her.
01:54:33.000 And I don't hate Trump.
01:54:34.000 I love Trump.
01:54:37.000 But I think he's making some serious tactical and ideological errors.
01:54:45.000 And I, you know, my critique is purely pragmatic.
01:54:49.000 If I thought he could really pull it out, I would probably not be vocal about it.
01:54:55.000 But I'm deeply concerned.
01:54:56.000 All right, well, all this stuff sucks.
01:55:02.000 Someone says the Tates are watching?
01:55:04.000 Tate is calling?
01:55:06.000 Someone says?
01:55:06.000 Is he for real?
01:55:09.000 What's he calling me on?
01:55:10.000 I'm not getting a message.
01:55:15.000 I don't know if people are trolling me.
01:55:16.000 People are saying the Tates are calling!
01:55:17.000 Tate wants to talk.
01:55:19.000 Now, we're not calling me.
01:55:34.000 I have their number.
01:55:36.000 So.
01:55:37.000 I don't know if you guys are trolling me.
01:55:41.000 But I'll call him later.
01:55:42.000 The debate's about to start in eight minutes.
01:55:44.000 Call Leafy.
01:55:45.000 Call Leafy.
01:55:49.000 I'll call Tate.
01:55:49.000 The debate's in eight minutes.
01:55:51.000 I'll call him after the debate if that's real.
01:55:53.000 But I think you're trolling me.
01:55:55.000 Call this.
01:55:56.000 Call Joe Rogan.
01:56:00.000 Let's see.
01:56:00.000 Let's see what NBC's saying.
01:56:04.000 We're getting into it.
01:56:05.000 Eight minutes away.
01:56:06.000 I guess they just went to a break.
01:56:14.000 Call Waheguru.
01:56:16.000 Call Duke Dennis.
01:56:19.000 Call Livvy Dunn.
01:56:20.000 Call Grimace Shake.
01:56:23.000 Call the Rizzler.
01:56:24.000 That's cock.
01:56:37.000 Call Turkish Kwandel Dingle.
01:56:40.000 All right.
01:56:41.000 Where's this debate?
01:56:42.000 Let's get ready.
01:56:46.000 What stream?
01:56:46.000 What's, what is the, uh, who's streaming the debate?
01:56:48.000 It's ABC, right?
01:56:52.000 Where do I go to watch it though?
01:56:56.000 Can I watch it on NBC?
01:56:59.000 Oh, here we go.
01:57:00.000 Doy.
01:57:03.000 Uh, derp?
01:57:06.000 All right, here we go!
01:57:07.000 Here we go!
01:57:09.000 Seven minutes away.
01:57:11.000 What are your guys' predictions?
01:57:12.000 What do you think?
01:57:14.000 Let's do it one more time.
01:57:15.000 We're five minutes away from the historic, legendary Trump versus Kamala Harris debate.
01:57:23.000 It is so exciting.
01:57:24.000 One for Trump, two for Harris.
01:57:26.000 Who's gonna win?
01:57:27.000 Who do you got?
01:57:28.000 Go.
01:57:29.000 One for Trump, two for Harris.
01:57:34.000 One for Trump, two for Harris.
01:57:35.000 Who's gonna win?
01:57:35.000 Call it now.
01:57:37.000 I'm saying it's 70-30 Harris.
01:57:40.000 And I wish Trump would... would schlong her.
01:57:43.000 I wish she would get schlonged, but I think he's gonna be unprepared.
01:57:47.000 Mostly ones!
01:57:48.000 Mostly ones now!
01:57:50.000 Well, it's about split, 50-50.
01:57:54.000 Roughly.
01:57:54.000 The chat's moving too fast.
01:57:58.000 But it's a lot of ones.
01:58:00.000 Man, I don't know.
01:58:01.000 It's a dead heat.
01:58:02.000 This is a very interesting cycle.
01:58:03.000 Why don't we do... We'll look at some of the polling real, real quick before we do it.
01:58:10.000 We'll look at the polling average.
01:58:13.000 Just to show you guys.
01:58:16.000 This is like a dead heat.
01:58:18.000 I mean straight up.
01:58:24.000 Hang on.
01:58:24.000 out how do I get to it? Um, okay.
01:58:37.000 Thank you.
01:58:39.000 So this is Trump.
01:58:39.000 Where's the chart?
01:58:41.000 Bruh.
01:58:42.000 Bruh.
01:58:44.000 Where's my chart, bro?
01:58:48.000 Here we go.
01:58:52.000 So it's like I said, this is the story of the election.
01:58:57.000 Where's June?
01:59:00.000 So this was the debate.
01:59:03.000 This was roughly the night of the debate.
01:59:05.000 This is when they decoupled.
01:59:07.000 Trump 46, Biden 45.
01:59:10.000 So Trump had about a .5 lead.
01:59:12.000 And then this is when they decouple.
01:59:15.000 They split after the debate.
01:59:17.000 It's catastrophic.
01:59:19.000 Trump's leading by four nationally.
01:59:21.000 It totally changes the race.
01:59:23.000 Biden drops out.
01:59:24.000 It takes about a week for the polling to catch up.
01:59:28.000 And then there's this inflection point here.
01:59:31.000 And that's when Harris starts to lead.
01:59:33.000 And like I said, this was the month of Harris.
01:59:36.000 They called it the honeymoon.
01:59:37.000 They said it was the coconut, the legend of the coconut.
01:59:42.000 But they split like this.
01:59:44.000 And then, like I said, in just the last week, you've seen Trump come back.
01:59:48.000 Trump has regained the momentum and he's come back in a big way.
01:59:52.000 So this debate could be determinative because in all the swing states, it's pretty close.
01:59:57.000 In Arizona, The average is, Trump is up one.
02:00:03.000 But it's a lot of tie.
02:00:05.000 In Nevada, Harris is up .6 in the average.
02:00:09.000 In Wisconsin, she's up one and a half.
02:00:12.000 But in some polls, Trump is up by one.
02:00:15.000 In Michigan, she's up by one.
02:00:17.000 In Pennsylvania, they're tied.
02:00:20.000 North Carolina, Trump's probably gonna win, but even still, the polling says he's up .1.
02:00:25.000 In Georgia, he's up .3.
02:00:28.000 So let me show you how that map works out.
02:00:30.000 We don't have a ton of time.
02:00:31.000 Five minutes away, but we're just going to take a look at the map and then we're going to switch over.
02:00:36.000 Whoops.
02:00:37.000 Just to show you how this is all going to shake out, what we're playing for.
02:00:42.000 It's a dead heat.
02:00:43.000 This debate, it could, you know, realistically, it's not going to be a crazy game changer, but it could be.
02:00:51.000 Let me just do a blank map.
02:01:01.000 Let's just set it up like this.
02:01:04.000 Bye.
02:01:05.000 Like this.
02:01:06.000 Like this.
02:01:06.000 Whoops.
02:01:17.000 Like this, whoops.
02:01:19.000 Okay.
02:01:21.000 So this is your map.
02:01:24.000 And in all of these swing states, it's a dead heat.
02:01:27.000 So it could go in.
02:01:29.000 It's tied nationally.
02:01:31.000 It's tied in all these states.
02:01:33.000 This is what it's going to come down to.
02:01:35.000 Trump could win.
02:01:36.000 Trump's likely to win North Carolina.
02:01:38.000 She's likely to win Michigan.
02:01:39.000 Trump's likely to win Arizona.
02:01:41.000 She's likely to win Wisconsin.
02:01:44.000 It's going to come down.
02:01:44.000 I think she's probably going to get Georgia.
02:01:48.000 Even if he wins Nevada, he doesn't win.
02:01:50.000 It comes down to Pennsylvania.
02:01:54.000 But really, it's those states.
02:01:55.000 It could be any one of them.
02:01:56.000 She could win Pennsylvania and he could win Michigan.
02:01:59.000 Or he could win Wisconsin.
02:02:03.000 But the must-wins are Georgia, Arizona, and then he's gotta get one from the Rust Belt.
02:02:08.000 It's anybody's game right now.
02:02:10.000 So with that, we're gonna move on.
02:02:12.000 We're gonna take a look at the debate.
02:02:13.000 We're tuning in live.
02:02:14.000 This is ABC.
02:02:16.000 We're going live to ABC.
02:02:17.000 And here we go.
02:02:21.000 We're in it!
02:02:22.000 We're a minute away!
02:02:23.000 It looks like we're starting now.
02:02:24.000 Alright.
02:02:24.000 Countdown a minute, twenty seconds.
02:02:25.000 Based.
02:02:25.000 it down. All right. Countdown a minute, 20 seconds.
02:02:36.000 We have never even met each other. And Harris said, if you got something to say, say it
02:02:41.000 to my face, the question tonight, does Donald Trump actually go there? He's questioned her
02:02:44.000 racial identity. He's questioned her intelligence as well?
02:02:47.000 Or does he stick the issues?
02:02:51.000 they're likely going to have in this race.
02:02:52.000 It will be interesting to see if Harris can make clear a stark choice before voters.
02:02:55.000 And where does she decide to land her punches?
02:02:57.000 She can punch hard.
02:02:58.000 Can she do that while rising above the needling coming her way?
02:03:01.000 But first and foremost... This is the most important debate of all time.
02:03:04.000 We didn't back in 2016 when I did that debate.
02:03:07.000 We'll stand by to see that tonight.
02:03:09.000 But the first time, side to side, together.
02:03:13.000 Here we go.
02:03:13.000 have my doubts that we're gonna see that handshake but what you are gonna see is a
02:03:16.000 spirited debate and perhaps the most consequential general election debate we
02:03:21.000 have ever seen because almost certainly it's gonna be the last one. The most important debate of our lifetimes. So
02:03:25.000 with the stakes so high the presidential debate just moments away. Here we go and we're
02:03:32.000 gonna experience it We're going to experience it together.
02:03:35.000 Are you guys excited?
02:03:35.000 This is going to be awesome.
02:03:38.000 This is going to be awesome.
02:03:38.000 happening right here, the debate now, just 10 seconds away.
02:03:43.000 Are you guys excited?
02:03:44.000 And we will be back with our post-game show as soon as it over.
02:03:47.000 This is going to be awesome.
02:03:48.000 We are going to toss it right now to David Muir.
02:03:50.000 This is going to be awesome.
02:03:51.000 This is going to be epic.
02:03:53.000 Tonight the high-stakes showdown here in Philadelphia between Vice President Kamala Harris and former
02:03:57.000 President Donald Trump.
02:03:59.000 Their first face-to-face meeting in this presidential election.
02:04:02.000 Their first face-to-face meeting ever.
02:04:04.000 A historic race for president upended just weeks ago.
02:04:07.000 President Biden withdrawing after his last debate.
02:04:10.000 Donald Trump now up against a new opponent.
02:04:13.000 The candidates, separated by the smallest of margins, essentially tied in the polls nationally and in the key battlegrounds, including right here in Pennsylvania, all still very much in play.
02:04:22.000 Very exciting, guys.
02:04:24.000 Very exciting.
02:04:25.000 I just tweeted about it.
02:04:26.000 Very exciting stuff.
02:04:27.000 This is an ABC News special.
02:04:29.000 The most consequential moment of this campaign.
02:04:31.000 The most important debate of all time.
02:04:37.000 I am rooting for Trump, by the way.
02:04:40.000 a great nation again.
02:04:42.000 Face to face, historic.
02:04:45.000 I am rooting for Trump, by the way.
02:04:47.000 The ABC News presidential debate.
02:04:48.000 Here now, David Muir and Lindsey Davis.
02:04:52.000 But I think it's going to be rough.
02:04:54.000 Good evening, I'm David Muir, and thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News presidential debate.
02:04:58.000 We want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world tonight.
02:05:02.000 Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for president.
02:05:09.000 And I'm Lindsay Davis.
02:05:10.000 Tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event of their campaigns, with Election Day now less than two months away.
02:05:16.000 For Vice President Kamala Harris, this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st.
02:05:22.000 Of course, that decision followed his debate against President Donald Trump in June.
02:05:26.000 Since then, this race has taken on an entirely new dynamic.
02:05:30.000 That brings us to the rules of tonight's debate.
02:05:32.000 90 minutes with two commercial breaks.
02:05:34.000 No topics or questions have been shared with the campaigns.
02:05:37.000 The candidates will have two minutes to answer questions.
02:05:39.000 And this is the clock.
02:05:40.000 That's what they'll be seeing.
02:05:41.000 Very exciting.
02:05:42.000 No audience.
02:05:43.000 Kind of eerie.
02:05:43.000 Liminal space.
02:05:43.000 of eerie.
02:05:44.000 ...clarifications or responses.
02:05:46.000 Their microphones will only be turned on when it's their turn to speak.
02:05:49.000 No pre-written notes allowed.
02:05:51.000 There is no audience here tonight in this hall at the National Constitution Center.
02:05:54.000 Liminal space.
02:05:55.000 This is an intimate setting for two candidates who have never met.
02:05:58.000 President Trump won the coin toss.
02:06:00.000 He chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening.
02:06:03.000 Vice President Harris selected the podium to the right.
02:06:06.000 So let's now welcome the candidates to the stage.
02:06:08.000 Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump.
02:06:11.000 Here we go.
02:06:15.000 Kamala Harris.
02:06:20.000 Have a good debate.
02:06:20.000 Thank you.
02:06:23.000 Welcome to you both.
02:06:24.000 It's wonderful to have you.
02:06:25.000 It's an honor to have you both here tonight.
02:06:27.000 Good evening.
02:06:27.000 We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate.
02:06:31.000 So let's get started.
02:06:32.000 I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country.
02:06:39.000 Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago?
02:06:49.000 When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?
02:06:54.000 So, I was raised as a middle class kid.
02:06:58.000 And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America.
02:07:06.000 I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people.
02:07:11.000 And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy.
02:07:17.000 Because here's the thing.
02:07:18.000 We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing, and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people.
02:07:26.000 We know that young families need support to raise their children, and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children.
02:07:46.000 My passion, one of them, is small businesses.
02:07:50.000 I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, but there was a woman who helped raise us.
02:07:55.000 We call her our second mother.
02:07:56.000 She was a small business owner.
02:07:58.000 I love our small businesses.
02:08:00.000 My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to startup small businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy.
02:08:10.000 My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before.
02:08:14.000 Which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit.
02:08:23.000 My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month.
02:08:33.000 Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
02:08:53.000 President Trump, she's nervous. First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an incorrect statement. She knows that
02:08:58.000 We're doing tariffs on other countries. Other countries are going to finally after
02:09:03.000 75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and
02:09:07.000 The tariff will be substantial in some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China
02:09:14.000 In fact, they never took the tariff off because it was so much money
02:09:17.000 They can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do
02:09:21.000 They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places
02:09:24.000 They've left the tariffs on when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation
02:09:28.000 look, we've had a Terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a country buster.
02:09:35.000 It breaks up countries.
02:09:37.000 We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before.
02:09:40.000 Probably the worst in our nation's history.
02:09:43.000 We were at 21%, but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70, and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago.
02:09:51.000 This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class.
02:09:55.000 On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from Prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums, and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics and also unions.
02:10:13.000 Unions are going to be affected very soon.
02:10:15.000 And you see what's happening.
02:10:16.000 You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States.
02:10:18.000 You look at Springfield, Ohio.
02:10:21.000 You look at- Someone please, think of the black people.
02:10:23.000 They are taking over the towns.
02:10:25.000 They're taking over buildings.
02:10:26.000 They're going in violently.
02:10:28.000 These are the people that she and Biden let into our country, and they're destroying our country.
02:10:35.000 They're dangerous.
02:10:36.000 They're at the highest level of criminality, and we have to get them out.
02:10:40.000 We have to get them out fast.
02:10:41.000 I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country.
02:10:46.000 I'll do it again and even better.
02:10:48.000 We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate, but I would like to let Vice President Harris respond.
02:10:53.000 They're both really giving an opening statement.
02:10:55.000 Well, I would love to.
02:10:56.000 Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.
02:11:00.000 Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.
02:11:05.000 Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.
02:11:12.000 Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
02:11:19.000 And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess.
02:11:22.000 What about 9-11?
02:11:23.000 What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
02:11:30.000 But I'm going to tell you on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook.
02:11:36.000 A bunch of lies, grievances, and name-calling.
02:11:39.000 What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to get it.
02:11:51.000 I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us, and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.
02:12:05.000 President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
02:12:07.000 Number one, I have nothing to do, as you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have
02:12:10.000 nothing to do with Project 2025.
02:12:13.000 That's out there.
02:12:14.000 I haven't read it.
02:12:15.000 I don't want to read it.
02:12:16.000 Purposely, I'm not going to read it.
02:12:18.000 This was a group of people that got together.
02:12:19.000 They came up with some ideas, I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference.
02:12:24.000 I have nothing to do.
02:12:25.000 Everybody knows I'm an open book.
02:12:26.000 Everybody knows what I'm going to do.
02:12:28.000 Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
02:12:33.000 We had the greatest economy.
02:12:34.000 We got hit with a pandemic.
02:12:36.000 And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died.
02:12:41.000 Has there been anything like it?
02:12:42.000 We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic.
02:12:45.000 We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in.
02:12:53.000 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
02:12:55.000 We made ventilators for the entire world.
02:12:57.000 We got gowns.
02:12:58.000 We got masks.
02:12:59.000 We did things that nobody thought possible.
02:13:01.000 See, this is sloppy.
02:13:02.000 for rebuilding the military, they give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for
02:13:07.000 the great job we did with the pandemic. But the only jobs they got were bounce-back jobs. These
02:13:11.000 were jobs bounce-back, and it bounced back and it went to their benefit, but I was the one that
02:13:17.000 created them. They know it and so does everybody else. Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond.
02:13:21.000 So Donald Trump has no plan for you.
02:13:26.000 And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax breaks for the richest people.
02:13:31.000 I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America.
02:13:43.000 What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse, mine would strengthen the economy.
02:13:51.000 What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit.
02:13:58.000 16 Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession.
02:14:09.000 You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues.
02:14:13.000 And I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
02:14:25.000 I went to the Wharton School of Finance and many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan.
02:14:32.000 It's a great plan.
02:14:33.000 It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth, our value as a country.
02:14:37.000 It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our
02:14:45.000 country.
02:14:46.000 What?
02:14:46.000 And just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan.
02:14:50.000 She copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences, like run spot run, four sentences
02:14:57.000 that are just, oh we'll try and lower taxes.
02:15:01.000 She doesn't have a plan.
02:15:02.000 Take a look at her plan.
02:15:03.000 She doesn't have a plan.
02:15:04.000 Mr. President, I do want to drill down on something you've already said.
02:15:06.000 It's sloppy.
02:15:07.000 It's not prepared.
02:15:07.000 The Vice President brought up your tariffs.
02:15:09.000 You responded, and let's drill down on this, because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
02:15:16.000 Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board.
02:15:19.000 You recently said that you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to 20 percent on goods coming into this country.
02:15:26.000 As you know, many economists say that with tariffs at that level, costs are then passed on to the consumer.
02:15:31.000 Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication, arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year.
02:15:40.000 Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs?
02:15:43.000 They're not going to have higher prices.
02:15:45.000 What's going to happen, who's going to have higher prices, is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years.
02:15:52.000 I charge, I was the only president ever China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their administration.
02:16:08.000 We are going to take in billions Billions of dollars.
02:16:11.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars.
02:16:14.000 I had no inflation.
02:16:15.000 Virtually no inflation.
02:16:16.000 They had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time.
02:16:22.000 People can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else.
02:16:27.000 The people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done.
02:16:32.000 They've destroyed the economy.
02:16:33.000 And all you have to do is look at a poll.
02:16:35.000 The polls say 80 and 85 and even 90 percent that the Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible.
02:16:43.000 Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response.
02:16:45.000 And you heard what the president said there, because the Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place.
02:16:51.000 So how do you respond?
02:16:52.000 Well, let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America.
02:17:00.000 He invited trade wars.
02:17:02.000 You want to talk about his deal with China, what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to China.
02:17:13.000 To help them improve and modernize their military, basically sold us out, when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century.
02:17:27.000 Which means focusing on the details of what that requires.
02:17:31.000 Focusing on relationships with our allies.
02:17:33.000 Focusing on investing in American-based technology, so that we win the race on AI, on quantum computing.
02:17:40.000 Focusing on what we need to do to support America's workforce so that we don't end up having, on the short end of the stick, in terms of workers' rights.
02:17:51.000 But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID, is he actually thanked President Xi.
02:17:58.000 For what he did during COVID.
02:17:59.000 Look at his tweet.
02:18:01.000 Thank you, President Xi!
02:18:04.000 When we know that Xi was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
02:18:12.000 President Trump, I'll let you respond.
02:18:13.000 First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan.
02:18:16.000 We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have.
02:18:23.000 I don't say her because she has no policy.
02:18:25.000 Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
02:18:30.000 She's going to my philosophy now.
02:18:32.000 In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.
02:18:34.000 She's gone to my philosophy.
02:18:36.000 If she ever got elected, she'd change it, and it will be the end of our country.
02:18:41.000 She's a Marxist.
02:18:42.000 Everybody knows she's a Marxist.
02:18:44.000 Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.
02:18:48.000 But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say.
02:19:01.000 I think it's a lot higher than the 21.
02:19:03.000 That's bigger than New York State pouring in.
02:19:05.000 And just look at what they're doing to our country.
02:19:08.000 They're criminals.
02:19:09.000 Many of these people coming in are criminals.
02:19:11.000 And that's bad for our economy, too.
02:19:13.000 You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later.
02:19:16.000 Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy.
02:19:20.000 They have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane.
02:19:27.000 Almost policy that you say they have to hate our country.
02:19:30.000 President Trump.
02:19:31.000 I want to turn to the issue of abortion.
02:19:34.000 President Trump, you've often touted that you were able to kill.
02:19:37.000 It's a little messy, but that was good.
02:19:38.000 Last year, you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American
02:19:43.000 history.
02:19:44.000 Then last month, you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive
02:19:48.000 rights.
02:19:49.000 Here we go.
02:19:50.000 Your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six week abortion
02:19:53.000 ban because you initially had said that it was too short.
02:19:56.000 And you said, quote, I'm going to look good.
02:19:58.000 We need more than six weeks.
02:20:00.000 She looks pale.
02:20:01.000 He looks like he's glowing and said you would vote to support the six week ban.
02:20:06.000 Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because
02:20:11.000 you've changed your position so many times.
02:20:13.000 Therefore, why should they trust?
02:20:15.000 Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the voters, they
02:20:20.000 have abortion in the ninth month.
02:20:23.000 They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor who's doing an excellent job, but the governor before.
02:20:32.000 He said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby.
02:20:36.000 In other words, we'll execute the baby.
02:20:38.000 And that's why I did that, because that predominates.
02:20:41.000 Because they're radical.
02:20:42.000 The Democrats are radical in that.
02:20:45.000 And her vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it.
02:20:52.000 But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine.
02:20:57.000 He also says execution after birth, it's execution, no longer abortion because the baby is born, is okay.
02:21:05.000 And that's not okay with me, hence the vote.
02:21:08.000 But what I did is something for Fifty-two years they've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states.
02:21:15.000 And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices, we were able to do that.
02:21:25.000 Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.
02:21:29.000 I believe strongly in it.
02:21:30.000 Ronald Reagan did also.
02:21:32.000 Eighty-five percent of Republicans do.
02:21:34.000 Exceptions.
02:21:35.000 Very important.
02:21:36.000 But we were able to get it, and now states are voting on it.
02:21:40.000 And for the first time, you're going to see.
02:21:42.000 Look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years.
02:21:48.000 Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
02:21:57.000 And that's what happened.
02:21:59.000 Now, Ohio?
02:22:01.000 The vote was somewhat liberal.
02:22:02.000 Ohio.
02:22:03.000 Kansas, the vote was somewhat liberal.
02:22:05.000 Much more liberal than people would have thought.
02:22:07.000 But each individual state is voting.
02:22:10.000 It's the vote of the people now.
02:22:11.000 It's not tied up in the federal government.
02:22:14.000 I did a great service in doing it.
02:22:15.000 It took courage to do it.
02:22:16.000 And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it.
02:22:19.000 And I give tremendous credit to those six justices.
02:22:22.000 There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.
02:22:27.000 Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump.
02:22:30.000 Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies, and that's not actually a surprising fact.
02:22:35.000 Let's understand how we got here.
02:22:38.000 Donald Trump hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade.
02:22:46.000 And they did exactly as he intended.
02:22:49.000 And now in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans, which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care.
02:23:00.000 In one state, it provides prison for life.
02:23:03.000 Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand what that means.
02:23:09.000 A survivor of a crime, a violation to their body, does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next.
02:23:17.000 That is immoral.
02:23:20.000 And one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree.
02:23:26.000 The government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.
02:23:33.000 I have talked with women around our country.
02:23:36.000 You want to talk about this is what people wanted?
02:23:39.000 Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are afraid they might go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot?
02:23:53.000 She didn't want that?
02:23:55.000 Her husband didn't want that?
02:23:56.000 A 12 or 13 year old survivor of incest?
02:24:00.000 Being forced to carry a pregnancy to term?
02:24:03.000 They don't want that?
02:24:06.000 And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law.
02:24:18.000 But understand, if Donald Trump were to be re-elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.
02:24:25.000 Understand, in his Project 2025, there would be a national abortion monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
02:24:33.000 I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make
02:24:39.000 decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government.
02:24:44.000 Thank you, Vice President Harris.
02:24:46.000 Well, there she goes again. It's a lie.
02:24:48.000 I'm not signing a ban, and there's no reason to sign a ban, because we've gotten what everybody wanted.
02:24:54.000 Democrats, Republicans, and everybody else, and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the states.
02:25:01.000 And the states are voting.
02:25:03.000 And it may take a little time.
02:25:05.000 But for 52 years, this issue has torn our country apart.
02:25:10.000 And they've wanted it back in the states.
02:25:12.000 And I did something that nobody thought was possible.
02:25:16.000 The states are now voting.
02:25:18.000 What she says is an absolute lie.
02:25:21.000 And as far as the abortion ban, no, I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states.
02:25:29.000 Would you veto a national abortion ban if it came to your desk?
02:25:31.000 Well, I won't have to because, again, two things.
02:25:34.000 Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
02:25:36.000 She'll never get the vote.
02:25:37.000 It's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with the 50-50, essentially 50-50 in both Senate and the House.
02:25:45.000 She's not going to get the vote.
02:25:46.000 She can't get the vote.
02:25:47.000 She won't even come close to it.
02:25:48.000 So it's just talk.
02:25:49.000 You know what it reminds me of?
02:25:51.000 When they said they're going to get student loans terminated, and it ended up being a total catastrophe.
02:25:56.000 The student loans.
02:25:57.000 And then her, I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss, he spends all his time on the beach.
02:26:03.000 But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do it again.
02:26:07.000 We'll do it a different way.
02:26:08.000 And he went out, got rejected again by the Supreme Court.
02:26:11.000 So all these students got taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea and how
02:26:16.000 unfair that would have been, part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of
02:26:21.000 people that had to pay off their student loans.
02:26:24.000 They didn't get it for free.
02:26:25.000 But they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that, that they talk about
02:26:29.000 abortion.
02:26:30.000 But if I could just get a yes or no, because you're running the J.D.V.
02:26:33.000 Vance has said that you would veto if it did come to your desk.
02:26:37.000 Well, I didn't discuss it with J.D.
02:26:38.000 In all fairness, J.D., and I don't mind if he has a certain view, but I think he was speaking for me, but I really didn't.
02:26:47.000 We don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it.
02:26:50.000 Just like she couldn't get student loans.
02:26:52.000 They couldn't get student loans.
02:26:53.000 They didn't even come close to getting student loans.
02:26:55.000 They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans.
02:26:59.000 They can never get this approved.
02:27:01.000 So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.
02:27:03.000 So wonderful.
02:27:04.000 Let's go to Congress.
02:27:05.000 Do it.
02:27:05.000 But the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government.
02:27:10.000 And we did something that everybody said couldn't be done.
02:27:13.000 And now you have a vote of the people on abortion.
02:27:16.000 Vice President Harris, I want to give you your time to respond, but I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on women's rights?
02:27:22.000 Not prepared?
02:27:22.000 You need to be prepared for that question.
02:27:24.000 I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade and as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America Is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion.
02:27:39.000 That is not happening.
02:27:40.000 It's insulting to the women of America.
02:27:42.000 And understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans.
02:27:47.000 Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments.
02:27:55.000 What is happening in our country?
02:27:57.000 Working people, working women, who are working one or two jobs, who can barely afford child care as it is, have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs.
02:28:15.000 You barely can afford to do it, and what you are putting her through is unconscionable.
02:28:22.000 And the people of America have not—the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, and that is why, in every state where this issue has been on the ballot, in red and blue states both, the people of America have voted for freedom.
02:28:39.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
02:28:40.000 Excuse me, I have to respond.
02:28:41.000 Another lie.
02:28:42.000 It's another lie.
02:28:43.000 I have been a leader on IVF, which is fertilization.
02:28:47.000 The IVF, I have been a leader.
02:28:50.000 In fact, when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.
02:29:00.000 I've been a leader on it.
02:29:02.000 They know that, and everybody else knows it.
02:29:04.000 I have been a leader on fertilization IVF.
02:29:07.000 And the other thing, they... You should ask.
02:29:12.000 Will she allow abortion in the 8th month, 9th month, 7th month?
02:29:16.000 Come on.
02:29:17.000 Okay, would you do that?
02:29:19.000 Why don't you ask her that question?
02:29:20.000 That's the problem.
02:29:21.000 Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth.
02:29:30.000 Just look at the governor, former governor of Virginia.
02:29:34.000 The governor of Virginia said, we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby.
02:29:39.000 President Trump, thank you.
02:29:40.000 We're going to turn now to immigration and border security.
02:29:42.000 We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats, voters across the board in this country.
02:29:48.000 Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America.
02:29:54.000 We know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration.
02:29:58.000 This past June, President Biden imposed tough new asylum restrictions.
02:30:02.000 We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly.
02:30:05.000 But my question to you tonight is, why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act?
02:30:11.000 And would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this?
02:30:14.000 So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
02:30:23.000 And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill, which I supported.
02:30:35.000 And that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now, over time, trying to do their job.
02:30:44.000 It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States.
02:30:50.000 I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country.
02:30:56.000 That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
02:31:05.000 But you know what happened to that bill?
02:31:07.000 Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress, and said, kill the bill.
02:31:12.000 And you know why?
02:31:14.000 Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
02:31:19.000 And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.
02:31:32.000 But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
02:31:38.000 And I'll tell you something, he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised.
02:31:44.000 And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
02:31:52.000 You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
02:31:58.000 He will talk about when mills cause cancer.
02:32:01.000 And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
02:32:07.000 And I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.
02:32:11.000 You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires.
02:32:16.000 And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.
02:32:21.000 And I pledge to you that I will.
02:32:24.000 President Trump, on that point, I want to get your response.
02:32:25.000 Well, I would like to respond.
02:32:26.000 Let me just ask, though, why did you try to kill that bill, and successfully so, that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the border?
02:32:33.000 First, let me respond as to the rallies.
02:32:35.000 She said people start leaving.
02:32:36.000 People don't go to her rallies.
02:32:38.000 There's no reason to go.
02:32:39.000 And the people that do go, she's bussing them in and paying them to be there.
02:32:43.000 And then showing them in a different light.
02:32:46.000 So she can't talk about that.
02:32:48.000 People don't leave my rallies.
02:32:49.000 We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics.
02:32:53.000 That's because people want to take their country back.
02:32:56.000 Our country is being lost.
02:32:58.000 We're a failing nation.
02:32:59.000 And it happened three and a half years ago.
02:33:02.000 And what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War III, just to go into another subject.
02:33:08.000 what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come
02:33:13.000 into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of
02:33:18.000 towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want
02:33:22.000 to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs,
02:33:28.000 the people that came in.
02:33:29.000 They're eating the cats.
02:33:31.000 They're eating... They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
02:33:36.000 Let's go.
02:33:37.000 And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame.
02:33:40.000 As far as rallies are concerned, as far as... The reason they go is they like what I say.
02:33:46.000 They want to bring our country back.
02:33:48.000 They want to make America great again.
02:33:50.000 It's a very simple phrase.
02:33:52.000 Make America great again.
02:33:53.000 She's destroying this country, and if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
02:34:00.000 Not only success, we'll end up being Venezuela on steroids.
02:34:05.000 I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
02:34:10.000 I didn't expect you to do that.
02:34:11.000 There have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals.
02:34:17.000 within the immigrant community.
02:34:19.000 Let me just say here, this is the people on television saying my dog was taken and used for food.
02:34:25.000 So maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
02:34:29.000 I'm not taking this from television.
02:34:31.000 I'm taking it from the city manager.
02:34:33.000 The dog was eaten by the people that went there.
02:34:35.000 Again, the Springfield City Manager says there's no evidence of that.
02:34:37.000 Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard.
02:34:39.000 You talk about extreme.
02:34:43.000 Love it.
02:34:43.000 Look at this bitch.
02:34:44.000 You know, this is, I think, one of the reasons why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain, including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congress member Liz Cheney.
02:35:07.000 And if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is, if he didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him.
02:35:17.000 His former chief of staff, a four-star general, has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States.
02:35:23.000 Let's go.
02:35:23.000 His former national security advisor has said he is dangerous and unfit.
02:35:28.000 His former Secretary of Defense has said the nation, the republic, would never survive another Trump term.
02:35:37.000 And when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed, I think the choice is clear in this election.
02:35:48.000 President Trump, I'll give you a quick minute to respond.
02:35:51.000 Thank you.
02:35:52.000 Because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person.
02:35:56.000 I fired most of those people.
02:35:58.000 Not so graciously.
02:35:59.000 They did bad things or a bad job.
02:36:02.000 I fired them.
02:36:02.000 They never fired one person.
02:36:04.000 They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who were just killed, viciously and violently killed.
02:36:13.000 And I got to know the parents and the family.
02:36:16.000 They didn't fire.
02:36:16.000 They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen.
02:36:25.000 So when somebody does a bad job, I'd fire him.
02:36:29.000 And you take a guy like Esper.
02:36:31.000 He was no good.
02:36:31.000 I fired him.
02:36:32.000 So he writes a book.
02:36:33.000 Another one writes a book.
02:36:34.000 Because with me, they can write books.
02:36:35.000 With nobody else, can they?
02:36:37.000 But they have done such a poor job, and they never fire anybody.
02:36:42.000 Look at the economy.
02:36:43.000 Look at the inflation.
02:36:45.000 They didn't fire any of their economists.
02:36:47.000 They have the same people.
02:36:48.000 That's a good way not to have books written about you.
02:36:51.000 But just to finish, I got more votes than any Republican in history by far.
02:36:58.000 Sheesh.
02:36:58.000 Oh, man.
02:36:58.000 I got more votes than any president, sitting president, in history by far.
02:37:03.000 Let me continue on immigration. It was what you wanted to talk about earlier,
02:37:07.000 so let's get back to your deportation proposal that the vice president has reacted to as well.
02:37:13.000 with a vice. Some good...
02:37:15.000 He's just a beast.
02:37:15.000 With local police, yes.
02:37:16.000 Undocumented immigrants.
02:37:16.000 operation in the history of our country. You say you would use the National Guard, you say if
02:37:20.000 things get out of control you'd have no problem using the US military. You also
02:37:24.000 said you would use local police. How would you deport 11 million undocumented
02:37:30.000 immigrants? I know you you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this.
02:37:33.000 Undocumented immigrants. What does this look like? Will authorities be going door-to-door in this country?
02:37:37.000 Yeah. It is much higher because of them.
02:37:40.000 They allowed criminals, many many millions of criminals, they allowed terrorists, they allowed common street criminals, they allowed people to come in, drug dealers to come into our country and they're now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela Don't ever come back or we're going to kill you.
02:37:59.000 Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down?
02:38:05.000 You know why?
02:38:06.000 Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country.
02:38:12.000 And this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow, and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes, but it's not worth it.
02:38:22.000 Because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done.
02:38:26.000 There's never been anything done like this at all.
02:38:29.000 They've destroyed the fabric of our country.
02:38:32.000 Millions of people let in.
02:38:34.000 And all over the world, crime is down all over the world except here.
02:38:38.000 Crime here is up and through the roof, despite their fraudulent statements that they made.
02:38:43.000 Crime in this country is through the roof.
02:38:45.000 And we have a new form of crime, it's called migrant crime.
02:38:48.000 And it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.
02:38:51.000 President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country.
02:38:55.000 This guy sucks.
02:38:59.000 They didn't include the worst cities.
02:39:01.000 They didn't include the cities with the worst crime.
02:39:04.000 It was a fraud.
02:39:06.000 Just like their number of 818,000 jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud.
02:39:11.000 President Trump, thank you.
02:39:12.000 I'll let you respond.
02:39:13.000 Well, I think this is so rich.
02:39:15.000 The GOAT.
02:39:16.000 Notorious.
02:39:16.000 from someone who has been prosecuted.
02:39:18.000 The GOAT.
02:39:19.000 For national security crimes.
02:39:22.000 Notorious.
02:39:22.000 Economic crimes.
02:39:23.000 Election interference has been found liable for sexual assault.
02:39:29.000 W.
02:39:30.000 And his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.
02:39:35.000 And let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect
02:39:42.000 for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement.
02:39:45.000 The former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement, 45,000 agents, get this, on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts.
02:39:58.000 So let's talk about what is important in this race.
02:40:01.000 It is important that we move forward.
02:40:03.000 That we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people.
02:40:12.000 Address what we need to do about the housing shortage, which I have a plan for.
02:40:17.000 Address what we must do to support our small businesses.
02:40:20.000 Address bringing down the price of groceries.
02:40:23.000 But frankly, the American people are exhausted with this same old tired playbook.
02:40:29.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
02:40:30.000 Excuse me.
02:40:31.000 Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent.
02:40:36.000 And I'm winning most of them, and I will win the rest on appeal.
02:40:39.000 And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court.
02:40:43.000 I'm winning most of them.
02:40:45.000 But those are cases, it's called weaponization.
02:40:47.000 I beat the case.
02:40:48.000 Never happened in this country.
02:40:48.000 country. They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases was involved with
02:40:54.000 the DOJ, from Atlanta and Fawnie Willis to the Attorney General of New York and the DA
02:41:01.000 in New York. Every one of those cases. And then they say, oh, he was he's a criminal.
02:41:07.000 They're the ones that made them go after me. By the way, Joe Biden was found essentially
02:41:13.000 guilty on the documents case. And what happened in my documents case? They said, oh, that's
02:41:17.000 That's the toughest of them all.
02:41:19.000 A complete and total victory.
02:41:21.000 Two months ago, it was thrown out.
02:41:24.000 It's weaponization, and they used it, and it's never happened in this country.
02:41:28.000 They used it to try and win an election.
02:41:30.000 They're fake cases.
02:41:32.000 President Trump, thank you.
02:41:33.000 A really quick response here, Vice President Harris, on this notion of weaponization of the Justice Department.
02:41:37.000 Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place.
02:41:43.000 The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again.
02:41:54.000 Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate
02:42:00.000 the Constitution of the United States.
02:42:02.000 That he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies.
02:42:08.000 Someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military.
02:42:14.000 Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
02:42:20.000 Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
02:42:23.000 We know J.D.
02:42:24.000 Vance is not going to stop him.
02:42:26.000 It's up to the American people.
02:42:27.000 Vice President Harris.
02:42:28.000 Thank you.
02:42:29.000 Lindsey?
02:42:29.000 Vice President Harris in your last run for president.
02:42:32.000 This is the one that weaponized, not me.
02:42:36.000 She weaponized.
02:42:37.000 I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me.
02:42:42.000 They talk about democracy.
02:42:44.000 I'm a threat to democracy.
02:42:46.000 They're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia, Russia, Russia investigation that went nowhere.
02:42:52.000 We have a lot to get to.
02:42:53.000 Lindsey?
02:42:53.000 Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, you said you wanted to ban fracking.
02:42:58.000 Now you don't.
02:42:59.000 You wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons.
02:43:02.000 Now your campaign says you don't.
02:43:04.000 You supported decriminalizing border crossings.
02:43:06.000 Now you're taking a harder line.
02:43:08.000 I know you say that your values have not changed.
02:43:11.000 So then why have so many of your policy positions changed?
02:43:14.000 So my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made but in particular let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania.
02:43:23.000 I made that very clear in 2020.
02:43:25.000 I will not ban fracking.
02:43:27.000 I have not banned fracking as Vice President of the United States and in fact I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act which opened new leases for fracking.
02:43:38.000 My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
02:43:47.000 We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over-rely on foreign oil.
02:44:00.000 As it relates to my values, let me tell you, I grew up a middle-class kid raised by a hard-working mother.
02:44:06.000 Who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager.
02:44:11.000 The values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed 400 million dollars on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times.
02:44:21.000 Is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase three million homes, increased by three million homes by the end of my first term.
02:44:33.000 My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather.
02:44:40.000 And my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
02:44:51.000 My work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams.
02:45:00.000 My values have not changed.
02:45:03.000 And what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name-calling.
02:45:16.000 The true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not
02:45:23.000 in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
02:45:25.000 I intend to be that president.
02:45:27.000 President Trump, you're a strong man.
02:45:29.000 Well, first of all, I wasn't given $400 million.
02:45:31.000 I wish I was.
02:45:32.000 My father was a Brooklyn builder, Brooklyn Queens, and a great father, and I learned a lot from him.
02:45:37.000 But I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and I built it into many, many billions of dollars.
02:45:42.000 Many, many billions.
02:45:44.000 And when people see it, they are even surprised.
02:45:46.000 So we don't have to talk about that.
02:45:48.000 Fracking?
02:45:49.000 She's been against it for 12 years.
02:45:52.000 Defund the police?
02:45:53.000 She's been against that forever.
02:45:55.000 She gave all that stuff up.
02:45:57.000 Very wrongly, very horribly, and everybody's laughing at it, okay?
02:46:02.000 They're all laughing at it.
02:46:03.000 She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies.
02:46:08.000 Like, she was big on defund the police.
02:46:10.000 In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
02:46:13.000 You don't mind, please.
02:46:16.000 Does that sound familiar?
02:46:19.000 Yes!
02:46:20.000 Yes, dude!
02:46:20.000 The GOAT!
02:46:20.000 That's why he's the GOAT!
02:46:22.000 Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
02:46:25.000 This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
02:46:27.000 that burned down Minneapolis.
02:46:29.000 She went out and raised money to get him out of jail.
02:46:32.000 She did things that nobody would ever think of.
02:46:34.000 Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
02:46:40.000 This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
02:46:44.000 She wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
02:46:49.000 If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
02:46:53.000 Just to finish one thing, so important in my opinion.
02:46:57.000 So, I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before.
02:47:01.000 They took, when they took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and the prices were going up the roof.
02:47:08.000 They immediately let these guys go to where they were.
02:47:13.000 I would have been five times, four times, five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago.
02:47:19.000 They got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling.
02:47:27.000 You saw what happened to gasoline.
02:47:28.000 So they said, let's go back to Trump.
02:47:30.000 But if she won the election the day after that election, They'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead.
02:47:36.000 Fossil fuel will be dead.
02:47:38.000 We'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar, where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out of.
02:47:44.000 You ever see a solar plant?
02:47:45.000 By the way, I'm a big fan of solar.
02:47:47.000 But they take 400, 500 acres of desert soil.
02:47:51.000 President Trump, we have a lot of issues that we have to get to.
02:47:55.000 We're out of time.
02:47:56.000 Thank you.
02:47:56.000 He's on leash.
02:47:57.000 He's on leash.
02:47:57.000 We have an election in just 56 days.
02:48:00.000 And I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis.
02:48:08.000 Mr. President, on January 6th, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.
02:48:12.000 You said you would be right there with them.
02:48:14.000 The country and the world saw what played out at the Capitol that day.
02:48:17.000 The officers coming under attack.
02:48:19.000 Aides in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office.
02:48:23.000 You did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home.
02:48:30.000 Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
02:48:33.000 You just said a thing that isn't covered.
02:48:37.000 Peacefully and patriotically, I said during my speech, not later on.
02:48:42.000 Peacefully and patriotically.
02:48:45.000 And nobody on the other side was killed.
02:48:47.000 Ashley Babbitt was shot by an out-of-control police officer.
02:48:51.000 That should have never, ever shot her.
02:48:54.000 It's a disgrace.
02:48:56.000 But we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly.
02:49:00.000 I ask, what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in?
02:49:06.000 She was the Bordezar, remember that.
02:49:08.000 She was the Bordezar.
02:49:09.000 She doesn't want to be called the Bordezar because she's embarrassed by the border.
02:49:12.000 In fact, she said at the beginning, oh, I'm surprised you're not talking about the border yet.
02:49:16.000 That's because she knows what a bad job they've done.
02:49:19.000 What about those people?
02:49:20.000 What are they going to be prosecuted?
02:49:23.000 One of these people from countries all over the world, not just South America.
02:49:27.000 They're coming in from all over the world, David.
02:49:31.000 All over the world.
02:49:32.000 And crime rates are down all over the world because of it.
02:49:35.000 But let me just ask you... But one of those, David, one of those people is going to be prosecuted.
02:49:38.000 One of the people that burned down Minneapolis is going to be prosecuted.
02:49:42.000 Or in Seattle.
02:49:43.000 They went into Seattle, they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle.
02:49:47.000 When are those people going to be prosecuted?
02:49:49.000 But let me just ask you.
02:49:50.000 You might ask her that question.
02:49:51.000 You were the president.
02:49:52.000 You were watching it unfold on television.
02:49:54.000 It's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election.
02:49:57.000 This guy's such an asshole.
02:49:57.000 Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
02:50:01.000 I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech.
02:50:05.000 I showed up for a speech.
02:50:06.000 I said, I think it's going to be big.
02:50:08.000 I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C., and the mayor put it back in writing, as you know.
02:50:15.000 I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you want to call it.
02:50:20.000 And again, it wasn't done by me.
02:50:21.000 It was done by others.
02:50:22.000 I said, I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers.
02:50:27.000 They rejected me.
02:50:28.000 Nancy Pelosi rejected me.
02:50:30.000 It was just two weeks ago.
02:50:31.000 Her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened.
02:50:36.000 They want to get rid of that tape.
02:50:38.000 It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs.
02:50:43.000 I wasn't responsible for security.
02:50:45.000 Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
02:50:47.000 She didn't do her job.
02:50:48.000 The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi.
02:50:52.000 Dude, this moderator is such a little faggot.
02:50:55.000 I was at the Capitol on January 6th.
02:50:58.000 I was the vice president-elect.
02:51:00.000 I was also an acting senator.
02:51:02.000 I was there.
02:51:04.000 And on that day, the President of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol.
02:51:14.000 to desecrate our nation's capital.
02:51:17.000 On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured, and some died.
02:51:23.000 And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason.
02:51:30.000 But this is not an isolated situation.
02:51:33.000 Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate And what did the president then at the time say?
02:51:48.000 There were fine people on each side.
02:51:51.000 Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, stand back and stand by.
02:52:00.000 That was awesome.
02:52:01.000 So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say we don't have to go back.
02:52:10.000 Let's not go back.
02:52:11.000 We're not going back.
02:52:12.000 It's time to turn the page.
02:52:15.000 And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law, and to end the chaos And to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome.
02:52:40.000 And be clear on that point.
02:52:42.000 Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking.
02:52:52.000 Let's turn the page on this.
02:52:54.000 Let's not go back.
02:52:56.000 Let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past.
02:53:02.000 Let me just follow up here.
02:53:04.000 It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business.
02:53:10.000 That was where Bloodbath was.
02:53:11.000 Also, on Charlottesville, that story has been, as you would say, debunked.
02:53:16.000 Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Jesse, all of these people, they covered it.
02:53:21.000 If they go an extra sentence, they will see it was perfect.
02:53:25.000 It was debunked in almost every newspaper, but they still bring it up, just like they bring 2025 up.
02:53:31.000 They bring all of this stuff up.
02:53:32.000 I ask you this.
02:53:33.000 You talk about the Capitol.
02:53:36.000 Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border?
02:53:40.000 How come she's not doing anything?
02:53:42.000 And I'll tell you what I would do, and I would be very proud to do it.
02:53:45.000 I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
02:53:49.000 I'd like to see her go down To Washington, D.C., during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time, go down to- because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous- go down to Washington, D.C., and let her sign a bill to close up the border.
02:54:03.000 Because they have the right to do it.
02:54:04.000 They don't need bills.
02:54:05.000 They have the right to do it.
02:54:06.000 The President of the United States- you'll get him out of bed, you'll wake him up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you'll say, come on, come on down to the office, let's sign a bill.
02:54:15.000 If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal.
02:54:21.000 If they do that, the border is closed.
02:54:24.000 Those people are killing many people, unlike J6.
02:54:27.000 We talked immigration here tonight.
02:54:28.000 I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you, because it really brings us this into focus.
02:54:33.000 Truth in these times that we're living in.
02:54:36.000 Mr. President, for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a landslide.
02:54:44.000 In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost by a whisker, that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short.
02:54:53.000 I said that?
02:54:54.000 Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020?
02:54:56.000 No, I don't acknowledge that at all.
02:54:57.000 I said that sarcastically, you know that.
02:55:00.000 We said, oh, we lost by a whisker.
02:55:02.000 That was said sarcastically.
02:55:03.000 Look, There's so much proof.
02:55:05.000 All you have to do is look at it.
02:55:07.000 And they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval.
02:55:10.000 I got almost 75 million votes, the most votes any sitting president has ever gotten.
02:55:15.000 I was told if I got 63, which was what I got in 2016, you can't be beaten.
02:55:20.000 The election, people should never be thinking about an election as fraudulent.
02:55:24.000 We need two things.
02:55:25.000 We need walls, we need, and we have to have it.
02:55:28.000 We have to have borders, and we have to have good elections.
02:55:31.000 Our elections are bad.
02:55:33.000 And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote.
02:55:37.000 They can't even speak English, they don't even know what country they're in practically, and these people are trying to get them to vote.
02:55:43.000 This is so good.
02:55:44.000 And that's why they're allowing them to come into our country.
02:55:46.000 I did watch all of these pieces of video.
02:55:49.000 I didn't detect the sarcasm.
02:55:50.000 Lost by a whisper.
02:55:51.000 We didn't quite make it.
02:55:52.000 This guy sucks.
02:55:52.000 And we should just point out here as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges, many of them Republican.
02:55:59.000 No judge looked at it.
02:56:00.000 They said we didn't have standing.
02:56:01.000 That's the other thing.
02:56:03.000 They said we didn't have standing.
02:56:04.000 A technicality.
02:56:05.000 Can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing?
02:56:10.000 The President of the United States doesn't have standing.
02:56:13.000 That's how we lost.
02:56:15.000 If you look at the facts, and I'd love to have you do a special on it, I'll show you Georgia, and I'll show you Wisconsin, and I'll show you Pennsylvania, and I'll show you... We have so many facts and statistics, but you know what?
02:56:28.000 That doesn't matter.
02:56:29.000 Because we have to solve the problem that we have right now.
02:56:31.000 That's old news.
02:56:33.000 And the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in decline, and they have put it into decline.
02:56:40.000 We have a nation that is dying, David.
02:56:42.000 Mr. President, thank you. Vice President Harris, you heard the president there tonight. He said he didn't say anything
02:56:47.000 lost by whisker.
02:56:48.000 So he still believes he did not lose the election.
02:56:51.000 This moderator is such a jack off.
02:56:52.000 That was won by President Biden and yourself.
02:56:55.000 But I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days.
02:56:58.000 This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away.
02:57:03.000 He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials, he says will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long-term prison sentences.
02:57:14.000 One of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying, we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us, we won't let him suppress the vote.
02:57:21.000 Is that what you believe he's trying to do here?
02:57:24.000 Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people.
02:57:26.000 Does your opponent suck?
02:57:27.000 Yeah.
02:57:28.000 So let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that.
02:57:33.000 But we cannot afford to have a President of the United States who attempts, as he did in the past, to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election.
02:57:46.000 And I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as Vice President of the United States, and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump.
02:57:56.000 I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you, and they say you're a disgrace.
02:58:02.000 And when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament Or the ability to not be confused about fact.
02:58:29.000 That's deeply troubling, and the American people deserve better.
02:58:33.000 I'll give you one minute to respond, Mr. President.
02:58:34.000 Let me just tell you about world leaders.
02:58:36.000 Viktor Orban, one of the most respected men.
02:58:39.000 They call him a strong man.
02:58:40.000 He's a tough person.
02:58:42.000 Smart.
02:58:43.000 Prime Minister of Hungary.
02:58:45.000 They said, why is the whole world blowing up?
02:58:47.000 Three years ago it wasn't.
02:58:49.000 Why is it blowing up?
02:58:50.000 He said, because you need Trump back as president.
02:58:55.000 They were afraid of him.
02:58:56.000 China was afraid.
02:58:57.000 And I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him.
02:59:00.000 China was afraid of him.
02:59:01.000 North Korea was afraid of him.
02:59:03.000 Look at what's going on with North Korea, by the way.
02:59:06.000 He said Russia was afraid of him.
02:59:08.000 I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and Biden put it back on day one, but he ended the XL pipeline.
02:59:15.000 The XL pipeline in our country, he ended that.
02:59:19.000 But he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany.
02:59:23.000 The biggest pipeline in the world.
02:59:25.000 Look.
02:59:26.000 Victor Orban said it.
02:59:28.000 He said the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump.
02:59:33.000 We had no problems when Trump was president, but when this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago, that if he weren't in that debate, he'd be running instead of her.
02:59:44.000 She got no votes.
02:59:46.000 He got 14 million votes.
02:59:47.000 What you did, you talk about a threat to democracy.
02:59:50.000 He got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office.
02:59:53.000 And you know what?
02:59:54.000 I'll give you a little secret.
02:59:55.000 He hates her.
02:59:56.000 He can't stand her.
02:59:58.000 But he got 14 million votes.
02:59:59.000 They threw him out.
03:00:01.000 She got zero votes.
03:00:02.000 And when she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed.
03:00:07.000 And now she's running.
03:00:08.000 I don't understand it, but I'm okay with it because I think we're going to do very well.
03:00:12.000 He hates her!
03:00:13.000 It's so awesome!
03:00:14.000 The goat!
03:00:19.000 He hates her.
03:00:19.000 Oh man.
03:00:20.000 It's the God.
03:00:20.000 He hates her.
03:00:21.000 , to protect innocent civilians. He said 9 months ago, now an
03:00:34.000 estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead.
03:00:37.000 Nearly 100 hostages remain. Just last week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said,
03:00:42.000 there's not a deal in the making. President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate.
03:00:47.000 How would you do it? Ah, well, let's understand how we got here.
03:00:52.000 On October 7, Hamas, a terrorist organization, slaughtered 1,200 Israelis.
03:01:02.000 Many of them young people who were simply attending a concert.
03:01:06.000 Women were horribly raped.
03:01:08.000 And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself.
03:01:13.000 We would.
03:01:15.000 And how it does so matters.
03:01:17.000 Because it is also true, far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed.
03:01:23.000 Children, mothers.
03:01:26.000 What we know is that this war must end.
03:01:30.000 It must end immediately.
03:01:32.000 And the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out.
03:01:38.000 And so we will continue to work around the clock on that.
03:01:42.000 Work around the clock, also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution.
03:01:48.000 And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel, and an equal measure for the Palestinians.
03:01:57.000 But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to Iran, and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel.
03:02:11.000 But we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self-determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
03:02:22.000 President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza?
03:02:32.000 If I were president, it would have never started.
03:02:35.000 If I were president, Russia would have never, ever, I know Putin very well, he would have never, and there was no threat of it either, by the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you added up.
03:02:48.000 Far worse than people understand what's going on over there.
03:02:51.000 But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden she hates Israel.
03:02:56.000 She wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
03:03:02.000 She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers.
03:03:05.000 She wanted to go to the sorority party.
03:03:08.000 She hates Israel.
03:03:09.000 If she's president, I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now.
03:03:14.000 And I've been pretty good at predictions and I hope I'm wrong about that one.
03:03:18.000 She hates Israel.
03:03:19.000 At the same time, in her own way, she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up.
03:03:28.000 Arabs Jewish people, Israel, Israel will be gone.
03:03:33.000 It would have never happened.
03:03:35.000 Iran was broke under Donald Trump.
03:03:38.000 Now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had.
03:03:43.000 Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different Uh, spheres of terror.
03:03:50.000 And they are spheres of terror.
03:03:52.000 Horrible terror.
03:03:53.000 They had no money.
03:03:54.000 It was a big story and you know it.
03:03:56.000 You covered it very well, actually.
03:03:58.000 They had no money for terror.
03:04:00.000 They were broke.
03:04:02.000 Now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around.
03:04:08.000 Look at what's happening with the Houthis and Yemen.
03:04:11.000 Look at what's going on in the Middle East.
03:04:13.000 This would have never happened.
03:04:15.000 I will get that settled and fast, and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended.
03:04:21.000 If I'm president-elect, I'll get it done before even becoming president.
03:04:26.000 That was tough.
03:04:26.000 Boo.
03:04:26.000 that was tough that's absolutely not true
03:04:30.000 I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people
03:04:36.000 he knows that he's trying to again divide and distract from the reality
03:04:42.000 which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy
03:04:49.000 it is well known that he admires dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself
03:04:57.000 it is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into
03:05:05.000 Ukraine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine
03:05:10.000 it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong Un
03:05:18.000 Based?
03:05:18.000 And it is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you
03:05:24.000 to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and
03:05:31.000 favors.
03:05:32.000 And that is why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are
03:05:39.000 a disgrace.
03:05:41.000 That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on national security, including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military.
03:05:55.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
03:05:57.000 And she's the one that caused it.
03:05:59.000 That's weak on national security by allowing every nation last month for the year,
03:06:05.000 168 different countries sending people into our country.
03:06:09.000 Their crime weights are way down.
03:06:10.000 Putin endorsed her last week.
03:06:13.000 Crime weights.
03:06:13.000 Said I hope she wins.
03:06:14.000 And I think he meant it.
03:06:15.000 Because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible.
03:06:19.000 It wouldn't have happened with me.
03:06:21.000 The leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent, and they are.
03:06:27.000 They're grossly incompetent.
03:06:29.000 And I just ask one question.
03:06:30.000 Why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made, Nord Stream 2, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe?
03:06:42.000 Because they're weak and they're ineffective.
03:06:45.000 And Biden, by the way, gets paid a lot of money.
03:06:47.000 Thank you.
03:06:47.000 We have a lot of issues to get to.
03:06:49.000 We'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the National Constitution Center right here in Philadelphia.
03:06:55.000 Back in a moment.
03:06:58.000 Our first break.
03:07:00.000 Awesome debate.
03:07:01.000 Are you guys loving this?
03:07:03.000 Let's take a quick poll.
03:07:05.000 One's in the chat if you think Trump is winning.
03:07:07.000 Two's if you think Kamala's winning.
03:07:09.000 Let's take a snap poll in the live chat.
03:07:11.000 I think Trump is winning.
03:07:14.000 I don't know how, like, libtards are liking this.
03:07:17.000 Probably they're not.
03:07:19.000 This is awesome.
03:07:21.000 Trump is back.
03:07:22.000 And I said, I thought he was going to lose, but I said you can never count him out.
03:07:28.000 Because he, when he gets under 10 health points, he's able to pull something out miraculous.
03:07:34.000 And I've never, when is the last time you've seen Trump in this form?
03:07:38.000 That's probably been at least six months.
03:07:42.000 Because it didn't, it started this way, actually.
03:07:46.000 In this primary, he said, I am your retribution.
03:07:50.000 They're poisoning the blood of our country.
03:07:53.000 I mean, it was awesome.
03:07:55.000 And then for like the past six months, it got really lame.
03:07:59.000 And in the first debate, he was so... Remember the first debate with Biden?
03:08:04.000 I mean, Biden did really badly, but Trump was very mellow.
03:08:09.000 And I think when she came with the personal attacks, something happened.
03:08:16.000 A switch got flipped.
03:08:20.000 It was like, now you are in the dungeon.
03:08:22.000 You are in hell.
03:08:24.000 Welcome to hell.
03:08:26.000 You are in the monkey house of the zoo, and he's the king of the jungle in there.
03:08:31.000 It reminds me of when he was in the debate with Hillary Clinton, he was towering over her.
03:08:37.000 Remember that?
03:08:37.000 When he was towering over behind her, beating his chest.
03:08:41.000 It's like the primal dominance on display is unreal.
03:08:45.000 I think it's when she attacked the crowd size.
03:08:48.000 She attacked the crowd size.
03:08:50.000 And the moderator goes, uh, so how do you respond to what she just said?
03:08:55.000 And he goes, wait, wait, David, I'm going to answer the thing about the crowd size.
03:08:59.000 Get out of my way.
03:09:00.000 She said something about the crowds.
03:09:03.000 That activated something.
03:09:06.000 And you could see that the playbook went out the window because he's been so intense.
03:09:11.000 This whole debate the past hour has been so intense, so personal.
03:09:18.000 And he's really in old form.
03:09:20.000 You don't see him like this anymore.
03:09:21.000 Here are my big observations.
03:09:24.000 One, she's nervous.
03:09:26.000 She is not ready for primetime.
03:09:28.000 She is not a national figure.
03:09:30.000 She has never won a primary.
03:09:32.000 She's nervous.
03:09:34.000 I thought she'd be prepared.
03:09:35.000 She's not.
03:09:37.000 She looks like shit, and she's nervous.
03:09:39.000 She's got a dry mouth.
03:09:40.000 She's stuttering.
03:09:42.000 She can't handle it.
03:09:43.000 Trump is in his element.
03:09:44.000 He got shot in the head.
03:09:46.000 He is in his element.
03:09:47.000 He smelled weakness when he walked through the door, when she went over and shook his hand like that was some power play.
03:09:54.000 He smelled weakness.
03:09:56.000 And then the personal attack started, and he ripped his shirt off and went Donkey Kong.
03:10:02.000 And one of the other things I noticed, aside from Kamala being nervous, is he's circling everything back to immigration.
03:10:10.000 Thank you.
03:10:11.000 Thank you.
03:10:12.000 Finally, someone is listening.
03:10:14.000 That is what I have said.
03:10:15.000 I have been criticizing Trump for talking about inflation.
03:10:20.000 And I said, tonight, it's going to be the boring La Civita playbook.
03:10:23.000 It's going to be inflation.
03:10:25.000 It's not going to work.
03:10:27.000 This is the money.
03:10:29.000 This is the money.
03:10:30.000 This is the campaign he should be running.
03:10:32.000 Everything about immigration.
03:10:35.000 And it's perfect because it's real and it's true.
03:10:39.000 And this is the issue that voters trust Trump on.
03:10:42.000 Everyone knows it's a crisis.
03:10:44.000 Everyone wants it to stop.
03:10:46.000 They know Biden's allowing it.
03:10:47.000 And it's like Trump said, they could stop it tomorrow.
03:10:50.000 This is the issue.
03:10:51.000 This is his issue that he should be leaning in on.
03:10:55.000 And he is.
03:10:56.000 And it is masterful.
03:10:57.000 And it's perfect.
03:10:59.000 And you can press this button as many times as you want.
03:11:03.000 You will never not get returns.
03:11:05.000 So I said this from the start.
03:11:07.000 I said abortion is her issue.
03:11:09.000 Don't get trapped.
03:11:11.000 Don't get baited into a trap talking about IVF and abortion.
03:11:15.000 Because everyone that cares about abortion is voting for her.
03:11:20.000 And I said it's a thorny issue, but you need to just get over it.
03:11:23.000 You need to just get past it and get on to immigration because that is the issue.
03:11:28.000 It's like 85% of likely voters trust Trump over Kamala on the border.
03:11:34.000 So that's your issue.
03:11:36.000 And I said that from the start, and it looks like finally someone is listening.
03:11:41.000 Personal attacks are back.
03:11:43.000 He's in his element.
03:11:44.000 He's talking about immigration.
03:11:46.000 I mean, he talked a little bit about the economy.
03:11:48.000 That was okay.
03:11:49.000 He got a little trapped on abortion.
03:11:50.000 He got in the weeds, but he got out of it okay.
03:11:53.000 Talking about nine months.
03:11:54.000 That was okay.
03:11:55.000 So this is excellent.
03:11:57.000 I'm loving it.
03:11:58.000 This is the Trump we need to see.
03:12:00.000 This is the guy that's going to win.
03:12:01.000 Mr. President, it has been the position of the Biden administration that we must defend
03:12:05.000 Ukraine from Russia, from Vladimir Putin, to defend their sovereignty, their democracy,
03:12:10.000 that it's in America's best interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins, he may be
03:12:13.000 emboldened to move even further into other countries.
03:12:16.000 You have said you would solve this war in 24 hours.
03:12:19.000 You said so just before the break tonight.
03:12:21.000 How exactly would you do that?
03:12:23.000 And I want to ask you a very simple question tonight.
03:12:25.000 Do you want Ukraine to win this war?
03:12:28.000 I want the war to stop.
03:12:30.000 I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions.
03:12:35.000 It's the millions.
03:12:36.000 It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting, which are fake numbers.
03:12:41.000 Look, We're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe, which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are.
03:12:52.000 They're in for 150 billion dollars less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO.
03:13:01.000 They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars when I said Either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore.
03:13:08.000 So that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people.
03:13:13.000 But you take a look at what's happening.
03:13:16.000 We're in for $250 to $275 billion.
03:13:19.000 They're into $100 to $150.
03:13:22.000 They should be forced to equalize.
03:13:25.000 With that being said, I want to get the war settled.
03:13:28.000 I know Zelensky very well, and I know Putin very well.
03:13:31.000 I have a good relationship, and they respect Your president, okay?
03:13:35.000 They respect me.
03:13:36.000 They don't respect Biden.
03:13:37.000 How would you respect him?
03:13:38.000 Why?
03:13:39.000 For what reason?
03:13:40.000 He hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin.
03:13:43.000 Hasn't spoken to anybody.
03:13:44.000 They don't even try and get it.
03:13:46.000 That is a war that's dying to be settled.
03:13:48.000 I will get it settled before I even become president.
03:13:51.000 If I win, when I'm president-elect, and what I'll do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other, I'll get them together.
03:13:58.000 That war would have never happened.
03:14:00.000 And in fact, when I saw Putin after I left, Unfortunately, left because our country has gone to hell.
03:14:08.000 But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers, he did it after I left.
03:14:12.000 I said, oh, he must be negotiating.
03:14:15.000 It must be a good, strong point of negotiation.
03:14:17.000 Well, it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him.
03:14:21.000 He had no idea how to stop it.
03:14:23.000 And now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse.
03:14:27.000 And it could lead to World War Three.
03:14:29.000 Don't kid yourself, David.
03:14:30.000 We're playing with World War III, and we have a president that we don't even know if he's... Where is our president?
03:14:36.000 We don't even know if he's a president.
03:14:38.000 And just to clarify here... They threw him out of a campaign like a dog.
03:14:41.000 We don't even know.
03:14:42.000 Is he our president?
03:14:43.000 But we have a president that doesn't know he's alive.
03:14:46.000 Your time is up.
03:14:48.000 Just to clarify the question.
03:14:50.000 Do you believe it's in the U.S.
03:14:51.000 best interest for Ukraine to win this war, yes or no?
03:14:54.000 I think it's the U.S.
03:14:54.000 best interest to get this war finished and just get it done.
03:14:58.000 Negotiate a deal.
03:14:59.000 Because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed.
03:15:04.000 I want to take this to Vice President Harris.
03:15:06.000 I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment.
03:15:10.000 But also, as Commander-in-Chief, if elected, how would you deal with Vladimir Putin?
03:15:14.000 And would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden?
03:15:18.000 Well, first of all, it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden, you're running against me.
03:15:25.000 I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up.
03:15:32.000 And that's not who we are as Americans.
03:15:34.000 Let's understand what happened here.
03:15:36.000 I actually met with Zelensky a few days before Russia invaded, tried through force to change territorial boundaries, to defy one of the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
03:15:53.000 the rules-based order. And I met with President Zelensky. I shared with him American intelligence
03:15:58.000 about how he could defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank,
03:16:02.000 to Poland and Romania. And through the work that I and others did, we brought 50 countries together
03:16:09.000 to support Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support, because of the air
03:16:17.000 defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the Javelins, the Abrams tanks that we have provided,
03:16:23.000 Ukraine stands as an independent and free country.
03:16:27.000 If Donald Trump were president, Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now.
03:16:31.000 And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine.
03:16:37.000 Understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO.
03:16:52.000 And what we have done to preserve the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence.
03:16:59.000 Otherwise, Putin would be sitting in Kiev with his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland.
03:17:06.000 And why don't you tell the 800,000 Polish-Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch.
03:17:20.000 That's so dumb.
03:17:22.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
03:17:23.000 We've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight.
03:17:25.000 Afghanistan came up in the last hour.
03:17:27.000 I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier.
03:17:31.000 Please, I'll give you a minute here.
03:17:33.000 Putin would be sitting in Moscow, and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women, but he would have been sitting in Moscow.
03:17:41.000 Quiet, please.
03:17:42.000 He would have been sitting in Moscow, much happier than he is right now.
03:17:48.000 But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other people don't have.
03:17:51.000 He's got nuclear weapons.
03:17:52.000 They don't ever talk about that.
03:17:53.000 He's got nuclear weapons.
03:17:55.000 Nobody ever thinks about that.
03:17:56.000 And eventually, maybe he'll use them, and maybe he hasn't been that threatening.
03:18:01.000 But he does have that.
03:18:03.000 Something we don't even like to talk about.
03:18:05.000 Nobody likes to talk about it.
03:18:07.000 But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started.
03:18:12.000 Three days later, he went in and he started the war.
03:18:16.000 Because everything they said was weak and stupid.
03:18:19.000 They said the wrong things.
03:18:21.000 That war should have never started.
03:18:22.000 She was the emissary.
03:18:24.000 They sent her in to negotiate with Zelensky and Putin.
03:18:29.000 And she did.
03:18:30.000 And the war started three days later.
03:18:32.000 And that's the kind of talent we have with her.
03:18:34.000 She's worse than Biden, in my opinion.
03:18:36.000 I think he's the worst president in the history of our country.
03:18:39.000 She goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country.
03:18:43.000 But let me tell you something.
03:18:44.000 She is a horrible negotiator.
03:18:47.000 They sent her in to negotiate.
03:18:49.000 As soon as they left, Putin did the invasion.
03:18:52.000 President Trump, thank you.
03:18:53.000 You did bring up something.
03:18:53.000 You said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin.
03:18:55.000 Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin?
03:18:58.000 Can you clarify tonight?
03:18:59.000 Yet again, I said it at the end.
03:19:01.000 You're going to hear a bunch of lies coming from this fellow.
03:19:03.000 And that is another one.
03:19:05.000 When I went to meet with President Zelensky, I've now met with him over five times.
03:19:10.000 The reality is it has been about standing as America always should, as a leader upholding
03:19:17.000 international rules and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that the
03:19:24.000 alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends
03:19:31.000 and not favor our enemies because you adore strongmen instead of caring about democracy.
03:19:40.000 And that is very much what is at stake here.
03:19:42.000 The president of the United States is commander in chief, and the American people have a right
03:19:48.000 to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility
03:19:57.000 in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles
03:20:02.000 and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery.
03:20:07.000 Oh my gosh, it's so dumb.
03:20:08.000 You talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin.
03:20:10.000 I do want to talk about Afghanistan.
03:20:11.000 It came up in the first hour of this debate.
03:20:14.000 I want to move on to Afghanistan.
03:20:16.000 Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
03:20:19.000 He got these countries, the 28 countries at the time, to pay up.
03:20:24.000 He said, I've never seen.
03:20:25.000 He's the head of NATO.
03:20:26.000 He said, I've never seen.
03:20:28.000 For years, we were paying almost all of NATO.
03:20:31.000 We were being ripped off by European nations, both on trade and on NATO.
03:20:35.000 I got them to pay up by saying, one of the statements you made before, if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you.
03:20:42.000 Thank you.
03:20:42.000 Otherwise we would have never gotten it.
03:20:43.000 He said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done.
03:20:47.000 Thank you.
03:20:48.000 I want to turn to Afghanistan.
03:20:49.000 It came up in the first hour of the debate and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.
03:20:57.000 I do want to ask the Vice President, do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out?
03:21:04.000 Well, I will tell you, I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan.
03:21:09.000 Four presidents said they would, and Joe Biden did.
03:21:13.000 And as a result, America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war.
03:21:21.000 And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this century.
03:21:33.000 But let's understand how we got to where we are.
03:21:37.000 Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine.
03:21:43.000 He calls himself a dealmaker.
03:21:45.000 Even his national security advisor said it was a weak, terrible deal.
03:21:49.000 And here's how it went down.
03:21:51.000 He bypassed the Afghan government.
03:21:54.000 He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban.
03:21:59.000 The negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorists, Taliban terrorists, released.
03:22:05.000 And get this.
03:22:06.000 No, get this.
03:22:07.000 And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David.
03:22:13.000 a place of storied significance for us as Americans.
03:22:17.000 A place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders.
03:22:26.000 And this former president, as president, invited them to Camp David
03:22:35.000 because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility
03:22:41.000 of the President of the United States to be Commander-in-Chief with a level of respect.
03:22:48.000 And this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers, And the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world.
03:23:04.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
03:23:05.000 President Trump, your response to her saying that you began the negotiations with the Taliban?
03:23:09.000 So, if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot of them, with snipers.
03:23:19.000 And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing.
03:23:24.000 That's the fighting force within Afghanistan.
03:23:26.000 They don't bother doing that because, you know, they deal with the wrong people all the time.
03:23:29.000 But I got involved.
03:23:31.000 And Abdul is the head of the Taliban.
03:23:34.000 He is still the head of the Taliban.
03:23:36.000 And I told Abdul, don't do it anymore.
03:23:38.000 You do it anymore.
03:23:39.000 You're going to have problems.
03:23:41.000 And he said, why do you send me a picture of my house?
03:23:43.000 I said, you're going to have to figure that out, Abdul.
03:23:45.000 And for 18 months, we had nobody killed.
03:23:48.000 We did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo.
03:23:52.000 It was a very good agreement.
03:23:53.000 The reason it was good, it was we were getting out.
03:23:56.000 We would have been out faster than them, but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers.
03:23:59.000 We wouldn't have left many Americans behind.
03:24:01.000 Trump said, I'll kill you.
03:24:03.000 We wouldn't have left.
03:24:04.000 85 billion dollars worth of military equipment behind.
03:24:09.000 And just to finish, they blew it.
03:24:13.000 The agreement said you have to do this, this, this, this, this, and they didn't do it.
03:24:18.000 They didn't do it.
03:24:19.000 The agreement was I want to move on.
03:24:21.000 Determinated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to do
03:24:26.000 I want to move and these people did the worst Withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment
03:24:32.000 in the history of our country and by the way That's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how
03:24:37.000 incompetent she and her boss are President Trump. Thank you I want to move on now to race and politics in this country
03:24:45.000 Mr. President, you recently said of Vice President Harris, quote, I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago, when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black.
03:24:55.000 Aura.
03:24:55.000 I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight.
03:24:58.000 Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?
03:25:01.000 Oh, shut up.
03:25:02.000 I don't, and I don't care.
03:25:03.000 I don't care what she is.
03:25:05.000 I don't care.
03:25:07.000 You make a big deal out of something, I couldn't care less.
03:25:10.000 Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.
03:25:12.000 But those were your words.
03:25:14.000 I don't know.
03:25:14.000 I don't know.
03:25:14.000 I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black, that she put out, and I'll say that.
03:25:22.000 And then I read that she was black, and that's okay.
03:25:25.000 Either one was okay with me.
03:25:27.000 That's up to her.
03:25:28.000 That's up to her.
03:25:29.000 Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this?
03:25:30.000 Love it.
03:25:32.000 I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to use race to divide the American people.
03:25:48.000 You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us, and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race.
03:25:59.000 And let's remember how Donald Trump started.
03:26:02.000 He was a land, he owned land, he owned buildings, and he was investigated because he refused to rent.
03:26:15.000 Well... They were guilty.
03:26:15.000 black families. Let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad
03:26:22.000 in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were
03:26:31.000 innocent, the Central Park Five. Took out a full page ad calling for their execution.
03:26:38.000 This is the same individual who spread birther lies about the first black president of the United States.
03:26:46.000 And I think the American people want better than that.
03:26:51.000 Want better than this.
03:26:53.000 Want someone who understands, as I do, I travel our country.
03:26:58.000 We see in each other a friend.
03:27:00.000 We see in each other a neighbor.
03:27:03.000 We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans point their fingers at each other.
03:27:10.000 I meet with people all the time who tell me, can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American people?
03:27:24.000 Knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks, we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president who invests in those, not in hate and division.
03:27:36.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
03:27:37.000 Lindsey?
03:27:38.000 President Trump, this is now your third time.
03:27:41.000 This is the most divisive presidency In the history of our country, there's never been anything like it.
03:27:48.000 They're destroying our country, and they come up with things like what she just said.
03:27:55.000 Going back many, many years, when a lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed with me on the Central Park Five, they admitted, they said, they pled guilty.
03:28:04.000 And I said, well, if they pled guilty, they'd badly hurt a person, killed a person, ultimately.
03:28:09.000 And if they pled guilty, then they pled.
03:28:11.000 We're not guilty.
03:28:13.000 But this is a person that has to stretch back years, 40, 50 years ago, because there's nothing now.
03:28:20.000 I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world.
03:28:24.000 And I'm going to build it again.
03:28:25.000 It's going to be bigger, better and stronger.
03:28:28.000 But they're destroying our economy.
03:28:30.000 They have no idea what a good economy is.
03:28:32.000 Their oil policies.
03:28:34.000 Every single policy.
03:28:35.000 And remember this.
03:28:37.000 She is Biden.
03:28:38.000 You know, she's trying to get away from Biden.
03:28:40.000 I don't know the gentleman, she says.
03:28:42.000 She is Biden.
03:28:43.000 The worst inflation we've ever had.
03:28:46.000 A horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad.
03:28:50.000 And she can't get away with that.
03:28:52.000 I want to respond to that, though.
03:28:54.000 I want to just respond briefly.
03:28:57.000 Clearly, I am not Joe Biden.
03:29:00.000 And I am certainly not Donald Trump.
03:29:03.000 And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.
03:29:07.000 One who believes in what is possible.
03:29:10.000 One who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people.
03:29:19.000 I believe in what we can do to to strengthen our small businesses, which is why I have a
03:29:25.000 plan. Let's talk about our plans and and let's compare the plans. I have a plan to give startup
03:29:33.000 businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their ambitions, their innovation, their ideas,
03:29:42.000 their hard work.
03:29:43.000 I have a plan.
03:29:44.000 $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life.
03:29:49.000 To help you in that most critical stage of your child's development.
03:29:53.000 I have a plan.
03:29:55.000 That is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers.
03:30:09.000 That's the kind of conversation, I believe, David, that people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name-calling.
03:30:20.000 Let's turn the page and move forward.
03:30:23.000 President Trump, we have to move on.
03:30:26.000 President Trump, she has a plan to defund the police.
03:30:31.000 She has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun.
03:30:35.000 President Trump, you have to move on to other issues.
03:30:37.000 fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else.
03:30:40.000 That's what her plan is for just recently.
03:30:42.000 I just need to respond because the former president has said something twice that I
03:30:46.000 need to respond to.
03:30:47.000 I'm sorry, we're going to move on Vice President Harris.
03:30:50.000 President Trump, this is now your third time running for president.
03:30:53.000 You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.
03:30:57.000 You have failed to accomplish that.
03:31:00.000 You now say you're going to keep Obamacare, quote, unless we can do something much better.
03:31:05.000 Last month, you said, quote, we're working on it.
03:31:07.000 So tonight, nine years after you first started running, do you have a plan?
03:31:12.000 And can you tell us what it is?
03:31:14.000 Obamacare was lousy health care, always was.
03:31:17.000 It's not very good today.
03:31:19.000 And what I said, that if we come up with something and we are working on things, we're going
03:31:23.000 to do it and we're going to replace it.
03:31:24.000 But remember this.
03:31:26.000 I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it.
03:31:30.000 They wouldn't vote for it.
03:31:31.000 They were unanimous.
03:31:32.000 They wouldn't vote to change it.
03:31:34.000 If they would have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare.
03:31:38.000 But the Democrats came up.
03:31:39.000 They wouldn't vote for it.
03:31:41.000 I had a choice to make when I was president.
03:31:43.000 Do I save it and make it as good as it can be?
03:31:46.000 Never going to be great.
03:31:47.000 Or do I let it rot?
03:31:49.000 And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away.
03:31:56.000 I decided, and I told my people, the top people, and they're very good people.
03:31:59.000 I have a lot of good people in this, that administration.
03:32:02.000 We read about the bad ones.
03:32:03.000 We had some real bad ones, too, and so do they.
03:32:06.000 They have really bad ones.
03:32:07.000 The difference is they don't get rid of them.
03:32:08.000 But let me just explain.
03:32:10.000 I had a choice to make.
03:32:11.000 Do I save it and make it as good as it can be, or do I let it rot?
03:32:16.000 And I saved it.
03:32:17.000 I did the right thing.
03:32:18.000 But it's still never going to be great, and it's too expensive for people.
03:32:23.000 And what we will do is we're looking at different plans.
03:32:27.000 If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population, less money and be better healthcare than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it.
03:32:37.000 But until then, I'd run it as good as it can be run.
03:32:40.000 So, just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan?
03:32:43.000 I have concepts of a plan.
03:32:45.000 I'm not president right now.
03:32:47.000 But if we come up with something, I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive.
03:32:54.000 And there are concepts and options we have to do that.
03:32:58.000 And you'll be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future.
03:33:01.000 Vice President Harris, in 2017, you supported Bernie Sanders' proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run healthcare system.
03:33:09.000 Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option.
03:33:13.000 What is your plan today?
03:33:15.000 Well, first of all, I absolutely support, and over the last four years as vice president, private health care options.
03:33:21.000 But what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act.
03:33:24.000 But I'll get to that, Lindsey.
03:33:25.000 I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made.
03:33:29.000 Oh my gosh.
03:33:29.000 She's the worst.
03:33:30.000 I've made very clear my position on fracking.
03:33:32.000 And then this business about taking everyone's guns away.
03:33:35.000 Tim Walz and I are both gun owners.
03:33:37.000 We're not taking anybody's guns away.
03:33:38.000 So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff.
03:33:40.000 I love that.
03:33:42.000 As it relates to the Affordable Care Act, understand, look, just look at the history to know where people stand.
03:33:47.000 When Donald Trump was president, 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
03:33:53.000 60 times.
03:33:54.000 I was a senator at the time when, I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate, and the late, great John McCain, who you have disparaged, as being a you don't like him you said at the time because
03:34:14.000 he got caught he was an American hero the late great John McCain I will never
03:34:18.000 forget that John McCain walked onto the Senate floor and said no you don't
03:34:24.000 no you don't No, you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
03:34:28.000 You have no plan.
03:34:29.000 And what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions.
03:34:37.000 I don't have to tell the people watching tonight, you remember what that was like?
03:34:41.000 Remember when an insurance company could deny If a child had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor, if a grandparent had diabetes, and thankfully, as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act, we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you, the American people.
03:35:04.000 Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
03:35:08.000 He never did.
03:35:09.000 We did.
03:35:10.000 And now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month.
03:35:12.000 Since I've been vice president, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors
03:35:16.000 at $2,000 a year.
03:35:18.000 And when I am president, we will do that for all people, understanding that the value I
03:35:23.000 bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege
03:35:30.000 of those who can afford it.
03:35:32.000 And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it.
03:35:37.000 Fastest prologue in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that.
03:35:40.000 I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot of us.
03:35:43.000 You made a mistake.
03:35:44.000 Number one, John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years.
03:35:49.000 But it wasn't only him.
03:35:50.000 It were all of the Democrats that kept it going.
03:35:54.000 And you know what?
03:35:56.000 We can do much better than Obamacare.
03:35:58.000 Much less money.
03:35:59.000 But she won't improve private insurance for people.
03:36:03.000 Private medical insurance.
03:36:05.000 That's another thing she doesn't want to do.
03:36:06.000 People are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private.
03:36:12.000 She wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait Six months for an operation that you need immediately.
03:36:18.000 President Trump, thank you.
03:36:20.000 We have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans, in particular younger voters, and that's climate change.
03:36:26.000 President Trump, with regard to the environment, you say that we have to have clean air and clean water.
03:36:31.000 Vice President Harris, you call climate change an existential threat.
03:36:36.000 The question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change?
03:36:40.000 And Vice President Harris, we'll start with you.
03:36:42.000 One minute for you each.
03:36:43.000 Well, the former president had said that climate change is a hoax.
03:36:48.000 And what we know is that it is very real.
03:36:50.000 You ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences, who now is either being denied home insurance or is being jacked up, you ask anybody who has been the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home,
03:37:05.000 having nowhere to go.
03:37:07.000 We know that we can actually deal with this issue.
03:37:10.000 The young people of America care deeply about this issue.
03:37:13.000 And I am proud that as vice president over the last four years, we have invested a trillion
03:37:18.000 dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production
03:37:24.000 to historic levels.
03:37:26.000 We have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been vice president.
03:37:31.000 We have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world.
03:37:37.000 Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs.
03:37:40.000 He lost manufacturing jobs.
03:37:42.000 And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Sean Fain, who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American-made products, American automobiles, it includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and
03:38:02.000 opening up auto plants, not closing them like happened under Donald Trump.
03:38:06.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
03:38:07.000 It didn't happen under Donald Trump.
03:38:09.000 Let me just tell you, they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month.
03:38:14.000 It's going, they're all leaving.
03:38:16.000 They're building big auto plants in Mexico, in many cases owned by China.
03:38:22.000 They're building these massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars
03:38:25.000 into the United States because of these people.
03:38:29.000 What they have given to China is unbelievable, but we're not going to let that.
03:38:33.000 We'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any auto worker, whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place.
03:38:44.000 What they've done to business and manufacturing in this country is Horrible.
03:38:50.000 We have nothing because they refuse.
03:38:53.000 You know, Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid him millions of dollars.
03:38:57.000 He's afraid to do it between him and his son.
03:39:00.000 They get all this money from Ukraine.
03:39:02.000 They get all this money from all of these different countries.
03:39:05.000 And then you wonder why is he so loyal to this one, that one, Ukraine, China?
03:39:10.000 Why is he?
03:39:10.000 Why did he get three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife?
03:39:15.000 Why did he get?
03:39:16.000 Why did she pay him three and a half million dollars?
03:39:19.000 This is a crooked administration, and they're selling our country down the tubes.
03:39:24.000 President Trump, thank you.
03:39:25.000 Thank you.
03:39:26.000 We'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates.
03:39:29.000 An historic night, this ABC News presidential debate from Philadelphia.
03:39:33.000 Back in a moment.
03:39:36.000 All right!
03:39:38.000 Second break, second, last break.
03:39:42.000 I think this debate is ending, so they're going to do a break.
03:39:44.000 They're going to come back for closing statements.
03:39:47.000 Yeah, that section was a little weaker.
03:39:49.000 I'm not going to lie.
03:39:50.000 It wasn't great.
03:39:51.000 You know what's really funny?
03:39:53.000 First of all, follow this channel.
03:39:55.000 This is our biggest stream ever.
03:39:58.000 We're at about 45,000 viewers.
03:40:00.000 We peaked at 47,000, 48,000 earlier.
03:40:03.000 So make sure to follow this channel.
03:40:05.000 I'm going to take the time to chill before the closing statements.
03:40:08.000 So follow and like the video if you haven't already.
03:40:11.000 You know what's really funny?
03:40:13.000 If you remember the primary debates in 2016, I'm talking about the GOP primary debate when Trump was up against Rubio, Cruz, Christie.
03:40:23.000 He got caught on the exact same question.
03:40:27.000 It was probably his worst moment ever in a presidential debate.
03:40:30.000 They asked him about health care.
03:40:32.000 They said, what's your plan to replace Obamacare?
03:40:36.000 Because all the Republicans just said repeal.
03:40:39.000 Trump said, we're going to repeal it and replace it with something better.
03:40:43.000 And I forget which one it was, but they said, what will you replace it with?
03:40:47.000 And Trump said, well, we'll get rid of the lines around the states, meaning they'll open it up so insurance companies can compete in different states.
03:40:55.000 And they said, well, that's not a plan.
03:40:56.000 What do you mean?
03:40:57.000 You can't just do this.
03:40:58.000 You can't just say, and he didn't have an answer.
03:41:01.000 And that was nine years ago.
03:41:03.000 That was literally, that was literally a decade ago.
03:41:07.000 And they asked him the same question tonight, and he still doesn't have an answer.
03:41:11.000 That's what I'm talking about.
03:41:13.000 You know, with Trump, there's something guttural there.
03:41:17.000 There's something like, or rather I should say on the gut level.
03:41:21.000 He's got this instinct.
03:41:24.000 He's able to pull it off.
03:41:26.000 But it's messy.
03:41:27.000 It's sloppy.
03:41:29.000 It's certainly not optimal.
03:41:30.000 It's not perfect.
03:41:32.000 It's things like that, you know, where that was weak, that was rough.
03:41:37.000 Well, I have a concept of a plan.
03:41:39.000 Same thing with, like, the abortion answer.
03:41:41.000 There's some areas where it's a little weak.
03:41:44.000 But overall, you know, we're coming to a close here.
03:41:46.000 The closing statement is coming up any second now.
03:41:51.000 Overall, I was very surprised at this debate performance.
03:41:54.000 I thought it was great.
03:41:55.000 I thought he hammered her really hard.
03:41:57.000 She is not prepared.
03:42:00.000 Super weak, nervous.
03:42:02.000 She doesn't have anything.
03:42:03.000 They have nothing to run on.
03:42:05.000 It's like all the worst aspects.
03:42:07.000 They've learned nothing from 2016.
03:42:11.000 In some ways, I think Biden would be more effective.
03:42:14.000 Biden is somehow tougher than Kamala.
03:42:18.000 Even though he's 100 years old and he's dying, he was more tough.
03:42:22.000 If you look at the debates in 2020, he was a little more tough.
03:42:26.000 Even in the debate in June, he sounded rough, but he was doing a better job defending himself than she is.
03:42:34.000 So they've learned nothing.
03:42:36.000 It's a disaster for them.
03:42:38.000 The moderation was terrible.
03:42:40.000 This, it reminds me of how it used to be.
03:42:43.000 The moderation in June was actually good, believe it or not, and I think they wanted Biden out.
03:42:48.000 I think that's why.
03:42:50.000 Because if you look back at June, it was actually extremely fair.
03:42:54.000 And I'm sure that's because the New York Times, CNN, they wanted Biden out.
03:42:59.000 They didn't think he could win.
03:43:01.000 Maybe it's because he went against Israel.
03:43:03.000 But they wanted him out.
03:43:04.000 I think that's obvious now.
03:43:06.000 Because now that it's back on ABC, it's right back to how it used to be.
03:43:10.000 It's like three-on-one.
03:43:12.000 They're fact-checking Trump, and they're wrong!
03:43:14.000 Earlier they said late-term abortion isn't legal anywhere.
03:43:19.000 Yeah, it is.
03:43:19.000 It's legal in like eight or nine states.
03:43:22.000 They said, oh, well, that's not legal anywhere.
03:43:24.000 Yeah, that's a lie.
03:43:26.000 Every question is pointed at Trump.
03:43:28.000 Every follow-up, they're grilling him.
03:43:31.000 They're not pushing Kamala on anything.
03:43:34.000 And it's not orderly either.
03:43:36.000 They're not keeping anybody on top of things.
03:43:38.000 There's too many rebuttals.
03:43:40.000 So, the way this debate was organized was really sloppy, moderationist.
03:43:45.000 This guy that's doing it is an asshole.
03:43:49.000 The girl, she hasn't really been active, but the guy is the worst.
03:43:53.000 And he's always been the worst.
03:43:55.000 So, it reminds me of how things used to be.
03:43:57.000 And just the way that Kamala talks about Trump, it just makes me fall in love with him all over again.
03:44:02.000 You know, he's a criminal.
03:44:04.000 He molested a woman.
03:44:06.000 He's involved with the Taliban.
03:44:08.000 He's friends with dictators.
03:44:10.000 It's making me, it reminds me why I like him in the first place.
03:44:14.000 So, yeah, I thought the first hour was very strong.
03:44:16.000 This last half hour, I'm not going to lie, was a little rough.
03:44:19.000 It wasn't great.
03:44:21.000 It was okay.
03:44:22.000 But I'll do a full recap.
03:44:24.000 We'll listen to our closing statements.
03:44:25.000 Then we'll do a full recap.
03:44:26.000 Welcome back tonight.
03:44:27.000 The time has come for closing statements.
03:44:28.000 And Vice President Harris, we begin with you.
03:44:32.000 So I think you've heard tonight two very different visions for our country.
03:44:38.000 One that is focused on the future, and the other that is focused on the past, and an attempt to take us backward.
03:44:46.000 But we're not going back.
03:44:48.000 And I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us.
03:44:54.000 And we can chart a new way forward.
03:44:58.000 And a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create An opportunity economy, investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that is about giving hard-working folks a break and bringing down the cost of living.
03:45:26.000 I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world.
03:45:44.000 I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do.
03:45:54.000 I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor.
03:45:57.000 I was a DA, I was an Attorney General, a United States Senator, and now Vice President.
03:46:02.000 I only have one client, the people.
03:46:04.000 Oh my gosh.
03:46:05.000 And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or a Democrat?
03:46:12.000 The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay?
03:46:16.000 And that's the kind of president we need right now.
03:46:19.000 Someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first.
03:46:24.000 I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people.
03:46:37.000 Vice President Harris, thank you.
03:46:39.000 President Trump?
03:46:41.000 So she just started by saying she's gonna do this, she's gonna do that, she's gonna do all these wonderful things.
03:46:47.000 Why hasn't she done it?
03:46:49.000 She's been there for three and a half years.
03:46:52.000 They've had three and a half years to fix the border.
03:46:55.000 They've had three and a half years to Create jobs and all the things we talked about.
03:47:00.000 Why hasn't she done it?
03:47:02.000 She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it.
03:47:12.000 Because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in.
03:47:16.000 You believe in things like we're not going to frack.
03:47:19.000 We're not going to take fossil fuel.
03:47:20.000 We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not.
03:47:25.000 Germany tried that.
03:47:27.000 And within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants.
03:47:32.000 We're not ready for it.
03:47:33.000 We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.
03:47:38.000 But I just ask one simple question.
03:47:40.000 Why didn't she do it?
03:47:42.000 We're a failing nation.
03:47:44.000 We're a nation that's in serious decline.
03:47:47.000 We're being laughed at all over the world.
03:47:49.000 All over the world they laugh.
03:47:51.000 I know the leaders very well.
03:47:52.000 They're coming to see me.
03:47:54.000 They call me.
03:47:55.000 We're laughed at all over the world.
03:47:57.000 They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.
03:47:59.000 We're not a leader.
03:48:01.000 We don't have any idea what's going on.
03:48:03.000 We have wars going on in the Middle East.
03:48:05.000 We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine.
03:48:09.000 We're going to end up in a third world war, and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.
03:48:17.000 I rebuilt our entire military.
03:48:20.000 She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban.
03:48:23.000 She gave it to Afghanistan.
03:48:25.000 What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all, is allowing millions of people to come into our country.
03:48:33.000 Many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country.
03:48:36.000 The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country.
03:48:42.000 President Trump, thank you.
03:48:44.000 And that is our ABC News presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center.
03:48:50.000 I'm Lindsay Davis.
03:48:51.000 And I'm David Muir.
03:48:52.000 Thank you for watching here in the U.S.
03:48:53.000 and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC News.
03:48:57.000 Good night.
03:48:57.000 Wow.
03:48:59.000 There you have it.
03:49:01.000 The second presidential debate.
03:49:04.000 But don't go anywhere because we're going to do a little live reaction analysis.
03:49:08.000 We're going to look at the flash polling.
03:49:10.000 Usually they do a focus group and they do a flash poll about who won.
03:49:14.000 So I'm very interested to see what the masses thought and what the focus groups thought.
03:49:21.000 Now that you've seen it, now that we've watched the entire thing, let's take a quick poll.
03:49:26.000 Who do you think won overall?
03:49:31.000 Strengths, weaknesses, we'll discuss.
03:49:33.000 One for Trump, two for Kamala.
03:49:35.000 Let me know what you think.
03:49:37.000 Press one for Trump, two for Kamala.
03:49:39.000 Who do you think won?
03:49:40.000 And smash the follow button, because the show's not over yet.
03:49:44.000 We're going to keep going and get into some reaction.
03:49:46.000 We'll talk about the different segments, and we'll do a little live review and analysis.
03:49:51.000 Everyone says one.
03:49:53.000 Everyone says Trump.
03:49:55.000 Some twos, but mostly ones.
03:49:58.000 And I'm very curious to see, like I said, some of the flash polling and things like that.
03:50:02.000 We have to see what the general population thinks.
03:50:06.000 I have to say, I think Trump won, but with some very serious deficiencies.
03:50:15.000 It was obviously not perfect.
03:50:18.000 It was not perfect on every answer.
03:50:22.000 And I think There were some serious flaws.
03:50:26.000 I think he got away with a lot because of fanservice, really.
03:50:30.000 I think he, especially for a guy like me, he talked a lot about immigration at the beginning.
03:50:36.000 He said a lot of funny stuff.
03:50:38.000 There were a lot of funny viral moments.
03:50:41.000 And that really did it for me.
03:50:43.000 But on a technical level, it wasn't perfect.
03:50:47.000 I don't even think it was optimal.
03:50:48.000 I think there were a lot of missed opportunities, and I think severely underprepared.
03:50:55.000 And, on some level, this is who he is.
03:51:00.000 It's what we got.
03:51:01.000 We can harp, and we can complain, and, you know, we can go over all that, and we will.
03:51:08.000 On some level, it's who he is.
03:51:12.000 We've been with this guy for 10 years.
03:51:14.000 He came down the escalator in June 2015.
03:51:16.000 It's been nine and a half years, and we know him, and we know his strengths, and we know his weaknesses.
03:51:23.000 And as I said at the very beginning, his strength is his instinct.
03:51:28.000 He is, he's an instinctual animal.
03:51:32.000 And when he's scratched like that, he reacts very strongly.
03:51:37.000 And I think without discipline, I think it was a little too much.
03:51:42.000 It was a little over the top.
03:51:45.000 I think he overheated a little bit.
03:51:47.000 It started out strong and kind of funny and energetic, and then it kind of became a drag.
03:51:52.000 It became a little too much.
03:51:54.000 I think it kind of pushed the boundaries of, you know, I think it stopped doing him favors at some point.
03:52:02.000 But that's how he is.
03:52:04.000 And it's a strength, but it's also a weakness.
03:52:06.000 It's this lack of discipline.
03:52:08.000 It's instinct, which can be very powerful, but also lack of organization, lack of preparation, lack of discipline.
03:52:15.000 He got, she touched a nerve at the very beginning.
03:52:18.000 I think he took the bait, started lashing out wildly, you know, and he got some shots in.
03:52:24.000 There were some funny moments.
03:52:25.000 I think all, all the moments belong to him.
03:52:28.000 I don't think Kamala had a single moment.
03:52:31.000 She has no aura.
03:52:33.000 She was nervous.
03:52:35.000 She was weak.
03:52:36.000 She was stumbling.
03:52:37.000 I think she wasn't very rehearsed, or if she was, she was too nervous and had maybe performance anxiety.
03:52:44.000 I think she choked a little bit.
03:52:46.000 She did a good enough job.
03:52:47.000 I think it was okay.
03:52:50.000 I wouldn't say it was a very strong performance.
03:52:52.000 I think she did an adequate job.
03:52:54.000 But she had no moments.
03:52:56.000 She's boring.
03:52:58.000 And she suffers from the problem that the Democrats have, which is that they can only appeal to women now.
03:53:04.000 They can only appeal to women, gay people, and very young people.
03:53:08.000 That's it.
03:53:09.000 To everybody else, to black men, white men, hispanic men, anybody over the age of 30, to married people.
03:53:16.000 It just sounds like, mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi.
03:53:19.000 That's all it sounds like.
03:53:21.000 It's nagging, it's whiny, it's bitchy.
03:53:24.000 Ugh, our democracy, we're a bit... So, you know, she did as good as she can.
03:53:32.000 But that's the Democrats.
03:53:33.000 It's too female.
03:53:34.000 It's too, you know, it's overbearing in a different way.
03:53:39.000 He's too much test.
03:53:42.000 There was a little bit too aggressive tonight, I think.
03:53:44.000 It was a little over the top.
03:53:47.000 And she's the opposite, too much estrogen.
03:53:50.000 Too much school marm, too much, you know, it's giving grade school principal, it's giving like, you know, cat lady, it's giving nagging bitch, okay?
03:54:00.000 It's what it is.
03:54:02.000 So, you know, I think it's sort of unfortunate because Trump did good.
03:54:07.000 If I were to give him a grade, I would give him like a, I'd probably give him like a B minus or a C plus, but there's no reason it shouldn't have been a grand slam.
03:54:18.000 And the only reason it's not a grand slam is because he just refuses to do anything technical.
03:54:24.000 It's all instinct.
03:54:26.000 It's all reactive.
03:54:29.000 And he's leaning so hard on personality.
03:54:32.000 He's leaning very much on humor, on this kind of boyish mischief kind of thing.
03:54:39.000 You know, he's bullshitting us a little bit, and we're kind of into it.
03:54:43.000 It's kind of funny.
03:54:44.000 He's leaning way too much on that.
03:54:46.000 And I really believe that if he were to really lock in and write some of this stuff out, rehearse an answer, get some new talking points, get a little script going, I think it could do a lot for him.
03:55:01.000 But it's like I said at the beginning, that's just not him.
03:55:04.000 It's a major flaw.
03:55:06.000 It's a major weakness.
03:55:08.000 It makes him vulnerable on things like health care when he had no response, on things like abortion when he, you know, he trudged through it and he...
03:55:17.000 He said his thing about late-term abortions.
03:55:20.000 I don't think anyone's convinced by that.
03:55:22.000 But it's all bravado.
03:55:24.000 It's all confidence.
03:55:25.000 He got mired in kind of a difficult thing in the middle there, where they asked him would he veto a ban, and he's contradicting Vance and says, well, we didn't talk about it.
03:55:35.000 And then he got out sort of at the end by asking her if she would allow a late-term abortion.
03:55:40.000 They fact-checked him.
03:55:41.000 He wasn't able to counter it, although he should have.
03:55:45.000 And so it's things like that where he makes it out, like he makes it out okay,
03:55:51.000 but there's really no reason why it shouldn't have been perfect because every one of these questions,
03:55:55.000 I forecasted it 100%. Anyone could do it. I mean, I think I have good political instinct,
03:56:01.000 but it's not a surprise.
03:56:03.000 The betting market said 89% chance they talk about abortion, and obviously they did.
03:56:08.000 That's the Democrats' platform.
03:56:10.000 They should have known.
03:56:11.000 The Republicans should have known every one of those questions in advance, because it was obvious.
03:56:16.000 And they should have been prepared for them, because that's what it's been, and they've been struggling with it for a long time.
03:56:22.000 And we're in the endgame here.
03:56:23.000 It's September.
03:56:24.000 You need to have an answer.
03:56:26.000 And it's like I said, he wasn't prepared.
03:56:29.000 I said at the beginning, they're going to do abortion.
03:56:32.000 It's going to be her moment.
03:56:33.000 She's going to give her thing.
03:56:35.000 She's going to talk about the, and I talked to the mothers that almost died and she's going to give a sob story.
03:56:41.000 I said, and Trump won't be prepared.
03:56:44.000 And he's lucky that she stumbled tonight.
03:56:47.000 I don't think she was great.
03:56:49.000 She stumbled.
03:56:50.000 I don't think there was a viral moment from her.
03:56:53.000 And she didn't look very good.
03:56:55.000 She looked pale.
03:56:56.000 She looked really good at the DNC.
03:56:59.000 And she looked good.
03:57:01.000 She's been looking good at her rally.
03:57:02.000 She didn't look good tonight.
03:57:03.000 She looked rough.
03:57:05.000 And she sounded rough.
03:57:06.000 She was nervous.
03:57:07.000 She had dry mouth, mouth sounds.
03:57:10.000 She was stuttering a little bit.
03:57:12.000 You know, she's having a little trouble.
03:57:14.000 So she didn't score on him, but it was very predictable and I feel like he could have really ran up the scoreboard.
03:57:22.000 It could have been so perfect, but he can't get out of his own way.
03:57:27.000 And so it's very frustrating.
03:57:29.000 And if you watch my reaction during the debate, I'm getting out of my seat.
03:57:34.000 I'm laughing.
03:57:34.000 I'm cheering.
03:57:35.000 We're having a great time.
03:57:37.000 It's W's.
03:57:37.000 We love to see some of the stuff.
03:57:39.000 But other times, I have to facepalm.
03:57:41.000 Other times, I'm like, come on, man.
03:57:44.000 Like, you know, we say in the same stuff.
03:57:46.000 A lot of it doesn't work.
03:57:48.000 You know the traps are set.
03:57:49.000 He walks into him.
03:57:50.000 He takes the bait.
03:57:52.000 He's got this He cannot get out of his own way because every answer has to steer back to, I'm the man.
03:58:00.000 Like, every answer.
03:58:01.000 And that's always the pitfall, like on COVID.
03:58:05.000 Well, I handled COVID perfectly and no one gives me the credit and we made ventilators.
03:58:11.000 It's like that stood in the way of what could have been a good answer.
03:58:14.000 You know, because the solid answer would be, I'm tired of them.
03:58:18.000 You know, we all know it was a pandemic.
03:58:20.000 You can't blame me for that.
03:58:22.000 The recession was because of the pandemic, but we had a V-shaped recovery.
03:58:25.000 Like, that should have been the answer.
03:58:27.000 But it had to be, I handled the pandemic perfectly!
03:58:32.000 I did!
03:58:32.000 And I never get the credit!
03:58:36.000 And same thing with healthcare.
03:58:38.000 You know, the health care thing, talk about inflation, talk about cost, talk about Medicare,
03:58:43.000 talk about the illegals are taking Medicare. No, he had to say, I did the right thing. I said,
03:58:50.000 come up with this like convoluted story. No one knows what he's talking about.
03:58:55.000 He's saying, well, you know, I could have let it rot or I could have saved it and I did the right thing because I'm the man.
03:59:02.000 And like that's that always seems to be.
03:59:06.000 That's like the tragic flaw is like he he has so much going for him.
03:59:11.000 He could be a super politician, a perfect politician on steroids because he's so authentic.
03:59:17.000 He's so real.
03:59:19.000 He can cut through the bullshit.
03:59:21.000 He's got a great instinct.
03:59:22.000 He's funny.
03:59:23.000 Genuinely funny.
03:59:24.000 He's got a great wit.
03:59:25.000 He knows where the pulse is.
03:59:28.000 But what he lacks is the discipline.
03:59:32.000 And what he lacks always is taking the bait.
03:59:36.000 They cut him and then he's just then it's off to the races and there he goes and sometimes it's good and when it's good it's really good but I fear that about half the time and it seems like more now a lot of the time It's just kind of confusing and meandering and sloppy and you're kind of scratching your head thinking, what is he saying?
03:59:58.000 And he's leaving so much on the table, a lot of missed opportunities to really land some serious blows.
04:00:05.000 It would require technical precision.
04:00:08.000 And so that's the frustration of a Trump supporter.
04:00:13.000 Because you watch it and some of it is brilliant.
04:00:16.000 Like the thing about they're eating cats and dogs?
04:00:18.000 Just brilliant.
04:00:19.000 And no one else could do it.
04:00:21.000 When he went in on the Haitians, and I was surprised he went there.
04:00:25.000 And it was outrageous.
04:00:27.000 Good.
04:00:27.000 It was funny.
04:00:29.000 Good.
04:00:29.000 And he circled it back to immigration, which is his issue.
04:00:32.000 Perfect.
04:00:33.000 It was brilliant.
04:00:35.000 And like I said, no one else would do that.
04:00:37.000 No one else could go there.
04:00:39.000 No one else would go there.
04:00:41.000 No one else is genuinely funny enough to pull it off, but also serious.
04:00:46.000 The right tone, and like I said, when he hits, he hits.
04:00:50.000 And it's a goldmine.
04:00:51.000 And it's memeable, and it's viral, and that'll be the clip.
04:00:55.000 Cats and dogs, that's the clip.
04:00:57.000 When he said, and it's so genius, everyone was playing the Kamala clip where she says, excuse me, I'm talking.
04:01:05.000 And he said, excuse me, I'm talking.
04:01:08.000 Sound familiar?
04:01:09.000 Fucking genius.
04:01:10.000 Laugh out loud, funny, throwing dirt in her face, humiliating her by taking her line and use it.
04:01:17.000 It's perfect.
04:01:18.000 And that's memeable too.
04:01:19.000 That's enough.
04:01:20.000 That's going to be the other clip.
04:01:22.000 You know, and neither of them are grand slams.
04:01:24.000 They're a little hokey, but they're funny.
04:01:26.000 They're outrageous.
04:01:28.000 It's perfect fodder for the internet.
04:01:30.000 Those will be the viral clips on X tomorrow, in addition to some other stuff.
04:01:34.000 But those were the big laughs, the outrage.
04:01:37.000 It's good stuff.
04:01:38.000 And no one else could do it better.
04:01:41.000 And that's really kind of what you need to do.
04:01:43.000 Because that's Hollywood.
04:01:44.000 He's a TV guy.
04:01:45.000 And he knows it can be good, it can be bad, but it can't be boring.
04:01:50.000 It doesn't even need to be 100% true.
04:01:52.000 It just needs to be outrageous.
04:01:54.000 And it needs to be big.
04:01:56.000 And it needs to be intense.
04:01:58.000 And he brings it.
04:02:00.000 And sometimes it's a little too much, and it's a little overbearing, because there's no discipline.
04:02:06.000 And like I said, sometimes he's overheating, he feels himself too much, and he walks right into traps.
04:02:11.000 He takes the bait, and he's undisciplined, and like I said, sometimes he can't get out of his own way with the ego trip, and it's very flawed, it's imperfect.
04:02:22.000 The question is, does it, is it gonna work?
04:02:28.000 That's a question.
04:02:29.000 Does it pass?
04:02:31.000 Does it sink or does it swim?
04:02:32.000 Because at the end of the day, that's what matters.
04:02:36.000 And I feel like tonight he won.
04:02:39.000 Now the question is what the broader population will think.
04:02:43.000 I feel like He might have turned some people off, because I think he overheated.
04:02:48.000 It might have been a little too sloppy.
04:02:50.000 He had his moments.
04:02:52.000 They were good moments.
04:02:54.000 And, you know, they had people like me excited, thinking this is the old guy back.
04:02:59.000 But I wonder if he pushed too far, if it was a little too sloppy.
04:03:03.000 Did he absorb too many hits?
04:03:07.000 We'll have to see.
04:03:07.000 So we're going to go into Twitter.
04:03:09.000 But that's kind of my feeling about it.
04:03:11.000 It's frustrating.
04:03:13.000 Cause, you know, like maybe half the time I'm like, this is good.
04:03:17.000 This is good stuff.
04:03:18.000 This is the right angle.
04:03:20.000 He's, he's being strong on this.
04:03:22.000 You know, he's, he's playing the right part.
04:03:26.000 And like I said, he's got those, these home runs where it's really funny and outrageous and it's clippable.
04:03:33.000 It's good fodder for the, uh, for the sound bites and the clips, which is what matters.
04:03:38.000 But then other times I'm putting my head on my hands, I'm like, what are you talking about?
04:03:43.000 You know, they ask him about abortion.
04:03:44.000 He's talking about like student loans.
04:03:46.000 And you're just like, what's going on, man?
04:03:49.000 This is, this is, I don't even know what we're doing.
04:03:53.000 So, but that's who he is.
04:03:58.000 And like I said, at the very beginning, and that's just how I feel.
04:04:03.000 This is what we got.
04:04:05.000 That's who he is.
04:04:06.000 We know what we're getting.
04:04:09.000 We know we're getting.
04:04:10.000 He's not going to change.
04:04:11.000 He can't change.
04:04:12.000 It doesn't matter who's around him, for better or for worse.
04:04:16.000 And I prefer this.
04:04:18.000 If it's Trump being muted and being gay and being lame versus him being too big and too over the top, I prefer too big and over the top because we can always sculpt that.
04:04:29.000 We can always massage that.
04:04:31.000 But he's giving us material to work with.
04:04:35.000 And he's creating energy.
04:04:36.000 It's dynamic.
04:04:37.000 It's dynamic.
04:04:39.000 And he's forcing them to react to him.
04:04:41.000 When he says that outrageous stuff, he's kind of putting Kamala on the back foot.
04:04:45.000 And she was a little scattered.
04:04:47.000 She had her talking points.
04:04:48.000 And he really just blew them up by being big.
04:04:52.000 So you can work with that.
04:04:54.000 So that's kind of how I feel.
04:04:55.000 It's frustrating at times.
04:04:58.000 It's very hard to watch.
04:04:59.000 You put your head in your hands because you're like, man, Can we not improve a little bit?
04:05:05.000 Can we be a little disciplined?
04:05:06.000 Because, you know, someone who's been watching him for 10 years, I'm intimately familiar with the flaws and the strengths.
04:05:14.000 And you just think we could do a little bit and it could go a long way.
04:05:18.000 And it could be perfect.
04:05:23.000 But he's never going to change.
04:05:25.000 And so that's just kind of what we have to work with.
04:05:31.000 And so if you could pick, is he gonna do no personal attacks and talk only about the economy, and he's gonna be very laid back, or is he gonna be big and loud and, you know, very messy and very sloppy and take some hits but also deal a lot of damage?
04:05:47.000 I definitely prefer the latter.
04:05:49.000 So all in all tonight, It was messy.
04:05:52.000 It was sloppy.
04:05:53.000 It was far from perfect.
04:05:54.000 But I welcome it.
04:05:56.000 I welcome the—that's how I feel about it.
04:06:00.000 Deeply frustrated, but at the same time, I welcome the old Trump back.
04:06:04.000 We got shades of the old Trump.
04:06:06.000 He looked good.
04:06:07.000 He sounded good.
04:06:08.000 He was genuinely funny.
04:06:10.000 He had some great moments.
04:06:11.000 He was strong.
04:06:12.000 He didn't give on anything.
04:06:14.000 He was on the attack.
04:06:16.000 Seized the initiative.
04:06:18.000 This is Trump in his element.
04:06:20.000 He knows it's a dead heat.
04:06:22.000 I think he got humbled a little bit.
04:06:24.000 Back in July, he was thinking, I'm running away with it.
04:06:26.000 I'm winning.
04:06:27.000 So I'm going to be unifying.
04:06:29.000 I'm going to play nice.
04:06:31.000 When Kamala surged, and she overtook him in the polls, and now it's really neck and neck, I think he senses the danger.
04:06:39.000 He knows it's kill or be killed.
04:06:42.000 He knows it's time to rise to the occasion.
04:06:44.000 That's always when he performs the best.
04:06:47.000 It's when his back is against the wall.
04:06:49.000 When he's doing well, he gets complacent.
04:06:51.000 He gets lazy.
04:06:52.000 It's just who he is.
04:06:54.000 When his back is against the wall and he knows it's time to turn on and lock in, every single time he does it.
04:07:00.000 And sometimes he overdoes it, but he always shows up and he always pulls it out on raw instinct alone.
04:07:07.000 Just literally force of will.
04:07:09.000 Like when he got shot.
04:07:10.000 Just force of will, not scripted.
04:07:12.000 He gets shot, he gets up and says, fuck you.
04:07:15.000 That's who he is.
04:07:17.000 And when he thought he was running away with it, well, he was mellow.
04:07:21.000 He made a lot of unforced errors.
04:07:23.000 He left a lot on the table.
04:07:25.000 Democrats came back.
04:07:27.000 So he brought it tonight.
04:07:29.000 He showed up.
04:07:29.000 He brought it.
04:07:30.000 It might have been too much.
04:07:31.000 It might have been too hot.
04:07:33.000 It might have been too messy.
04:07:36.000 This is what it's going to take to turn out the voters, because it's a turnout game.
04:07:42.000 We're not trying to win over the cat ladies.
04:07:45.000 They already hate Trump.
04:07:46.000 They have hated Trump.
04:07:48.000 They hated Trump since he said Rosie O'Donnell.
04:07:50.000 They hated him before that.
04:07:52.000 He's the congenital misogynist, you know, big man, alpha male.
04:07:56.000 They always hated him.
04:07:58.000 Fuck him.
04:07:58.000 We don't need to win him over.
04:08:00.000 He needs to turn out his base, energize them by talking about immigration.
04:08:05.000 We got a lot of that tonight.
04:08:07.000 Good.
04:08:08.000 Welcome back.
04:08:09.000 This is what's going to win.
04:08:10.000 So, you know, my critiques, I could be picky and I could be, you know, I could give a very technical critique of every little thing and missed opportunity because I hear it all and I see it all.
04:08:23.000 But this is the guy that's going to win.
04:08:27.000 So the good?
04:08:29.000 Immigration.
04:08:30.000 Immigration, immigration, immigration.
04:08:33.000 That's all he should be talking about, and he did that really well in the first hour.
04:08:37.000 Hitting immigration hard and frequently, that is what he needs to do.
04:08:43.000 So that was excellent.
04:08:44.000 He ditched all the gay-ass talking points about inflation and groceries, and he went in on the issue that matters.
04:08:51.000 Perfect.
04:08:52.000 Aggression.
04:08:53.000 He went in on her, took no prisoners.
04:08:56.000 He attacked her on everything ruthlessly.
04:08:59.000 Biden not being the president, sleeping on the job, being her boss.
04:09:03.000 She's a radical.
04:09:04.000 She should have done it for three years.
04:09:06.000 She flipped on all her positions.
04:09:08.000 He said, I'm going to send her a MAGA hat.
04:09:10.000 Brilliant, funny, perfect.
04:09:13.000 So Immigration is good.
04:09:15.000 The energy is back.
04:09:18.000 It's funny.
04:09:18.000 It's fresh.
04:09:19.000 It's outrageous.
04:09:21.000 He sees the initiative.
04:09:23.000 And he didn't back down on anything.
04:09:24.000 He's not trying to win over the middle.
04:09:26.000 He's not cucking out on everything.
04:09:28.000 So that's the good to me.
04:09:30.000 I thought in terms of style, he brought the energy, the humor, the outrage.
04:09:37.000 Eyes were glued to the screen.
04:09:38.000 He's got the attention back, because that's really what it is.
04:09:42.000 We're watching again.
04:09:43.000 It's fun again.
04:09:45.000 You know, when he's doing the rallies, and Kamala's right, people are walking out because it's getting boring.
04:09:49.000 He brought the energy.
04:09:51.000 And on the issues, he brought it back to the thing that got him there in the first place.
04:09:56.000 Immigration.
04:09:57.000 Beautiful.
04:09:58.000 The thing about the Haitians.
04:10:00.000 I'll send her a MAGA hat.
04:10:03.000 Sound familiar?
04:10:04.000 I'm speaking.
04:10:05.000 Quiet.
04:10:06.000 Just beautiful, right?
04:10:09.000 So that's the good.
04:10:10.000 In terms of the bad, sloppy, unprepared, disorganized, leaving a lot of stuff on the table, in terms of the stuff on Ukraine, could have really had a far better technical attack.
04:10:27.000 You know, he's relying on these kind of quips and funny shit.
04:10:31.000 He really needs to turn on and build a monologue.
04:10:38.000 He needs to write a truly masterful script on these issues.
04:10:43.000 Something like, because he's got it on inflation, on the border, on Ukraine.
04:10:48.000 There's really so much untapped potential there.
04:10:52.000 If he were just to sit down and write out a monologue that crescendos and hits all the right notes with flair.
04:11:00.000 and with the facts, he could do like the knockout punch heard around the world, I swear to you.
04:11:07.000 If he had the kind of discipline to rehearse and write a script with his flair and with
04:11:13.000 his boldness and outrage, it would be the knockout punch heard around the world.
04:11:18.000 If he could just write something and crescendo and take advantage of the time, you know,
04:11:23.000 he's got two minute answers.
04:11:25.000 They know what the questions are going to be.
04:11:27.000 The mics are muted.
04:11:28.000 He's really got an opportunity to say something masterful, and he just hasn't been able to
04:11:33.000 do that.
04:11:34.000 If he could, it would be such an asset.
04:11:37.000 So that's the weakness.
04:11:38.000 It's the missed opportunities, it's the sloppiness, getting caught on the back foot on things like abortion when you know it's coming.
04:11:46.000 That's the stuff that's really hurting him.
04:11:48.000 Those are vulnerabilities that if you seal them up, it could be 100% perfect.
04:11:53.000 So that's how I would weight the performance.
04:11:56.000 Those are my big, that's my praise, that's my critique.
04:12:01.000 All together, I'll take it.
04:12:03.000 I'll take it messy.
04:12:04.000 I'll take it raw.
04:12:05.000 Okay, pause.
04:12:08.000 Pause.
04:12:09.000 You know, I like it raw.
04:12:10.000 I like it raw.
04:12:12.000 I like it messy.
04:12:13.000 I like it fucking hot and juicy.
04:12:15.000 Sorry for the language, but that's how I like it.
04:12:18.000 That's how I like it in politics.
04:12:20.000 Okay, pause.
04:12:21.000 Not anywhere else.
04:12:23.000 That's how I'll take it.
04:12:24.000 And I think it's better.
04:12:25.000 I think it's better for him.
04:12:26.000 I think it's strategically better.
04:12:29.000 He needs it to be dynamic.
04:12:31.000 He thrives when it's competitive.
04:12:33.000 He thrives when it's dynamic.
04:12:35.000 He thrives when all bets are off and he's unleashed.
04:12:40.000 So...
04:12:41.000 I'll take it a little bit sloppy if it's raw.
04:12:45.000 If it's raw, okay, that's how I prefer it, okay?
04:12:49.000 Over this like muted, controlled, where he goes up there and he's trying to be presidential and he's like, look at these groceries, man.
04:12:57.000 Bacon is so expensive.
04:12:58.000 I'll take Haitians, you know, they're eating dogs and cats.
04:13:03.000 I'll send her a MAGA hat.
04:13:05.000 Excuse me, quiet.
04:13:06.000 I'll take it that way all day.
04:13:10.000 And as far as Kamala's concerned, you know, she just sucks.
04:13:16.000 She just sucks.
04:13:17.000 She's an annoying bitch.
04:13:19.000 It is what it is.
04:13:21.000 She's yapping.
04:13:22.000 It's everything we hate about the Democrats.
04:13:26.000 You know, and the thing is, it's so funny, Joe Biden would probably be, I know this is like, a lot of people don't believe me, but Joe Biden probably would have been their best bet.
04:13:38.000 The debate knocked him out.
04:13:40.000 There was nothing you could do about that.
04:13:42.000 But Joe Biden would have been their best bet.
04:13:45.000 Because, and I've said it before, Joe Biden is similar in almost every way to Trump.
04:13:52.000 He's a little bit, first of all, he's a guy.
04:13:55.000 He's a white guy.
04:13:56.000 He doesn't sound like a nagging bitch.
04:13:59.000 He's a little rough around the edges.
04:14:02.000 It's plausible.
04:14:03.000 I know a lot of it's fake, but it's plausible.
04:14:05.000 People can buy in that Biden is like a real guy from Scranton.
04:14:10.000 He's an Irish Catholic.
04:14:12.000 Yeah, he's from another generation.
04:14:14.000 He's a little rough around the edges.
04:14:16.000 We're America, Jack!
04:14:17.000 You know, it's plausible, okay?
04:14:19.000 It's all fake, but it's plausible.
04:14:21.000 It's just enough that people can believe it.
04:14:25.000 She is everything wrong with the Democrats.
04:14:28.000 So fake, so phony, rehearsed, scripted, nagging, just lying out of her ass about everything, nagging, nagging, and no substance.
04:14:39.000 It's all, he's selfish, he's a bad guy, he wants to divide us, I'm a nice person, I care about you, we gotta go forward, not backward.
04:14:50.000 It's a load of garbage.
04:14:53.000 Everyone knows it.
04:14:54.000 The only people that don't know it are like racial minorities, women, and stupid kids.
04:15:02.000 Those are the only people buying in with the Democrats anymore.
04:15:06.000 Those are the only people that are throwing in with the Democrats.
04:15:10.000 It's minorities voting based on their race because they think Republicans are white racists.
04:15:16.000 It's stupid ass kids who are, they're either, you know, psycho women because all the Gen Z women are insufferable bitches and the pussified men.
04:15:27.000 And then it's all the like over-educated, professional, managerial class that are, you know, oh, Trump is so uncouth.
04:15:36.000 He didn't concede.
04:15:38.000 Oh, he's so boorish.
04:15:39.000 You know, it's all those fags.
04:15:41.000 Those are like the only people that are buying in.
04:15:44.000 It's like, talk about a basket of deplorables.
04:15:47.000 It's like the most insufferable people that are ruining America.
04:15:51.000 Those are the ones throwing in with Kamala.
04:15:54.000 It's the people that just hate whites, they hate our country, they're super gay, you know, they want Kamala because she's like a boss bitch, she's campy, whatever, you know, she's brat.
04:16:06.000 That's all she, because, mark my words, you show that performance to any white guy, any white guy with balls just like can't listen to that for five seconds.
04:16:16.000 So, that's how I feel, but you know what?
04:16:21.000 It's effective.
04:16:23.000 She went out, she did her job, women are gonna love it.
04:16:26.000 And you wanna know why?
04:16:27.000 Women are really screwed up right now.
04:16:30.000 They're screwed up, they're unpleasant, they're annoying, and a lot of women, they do look at Trump as like a predator, because they're all obsessed with sexual abuse.
04:16:41.000 S.A., he S.A'd a woman, he graped a woman, And she unalived herself.
04:16:49.000 Like, that's how women are now.
04:16:51.000 All women are histrionic about sexual assault and predators.
04:16:56.000 Like, all women hate men.
04:16:58.000 And I was thinking about this the other day.
04:17:00.000 You know what it is?
04:17:03.000 A lot of women say, well, I don't hate men.
04:17:07.000 It's like, yeah, maybe you don't hate men, but you hate everything about a man that makes him a man.
04:17:15.000 All your favorite guys, your funny uncle, your grandfather who's rough around the edges, who's a little racist, guys like Trump, guys like Alex Jones, guys like Elon Musk, those are guys.
04:17:29.000 And the things That women hate about them are what make them guys.
04:17:35.000 So, you know, every woman in America today is like, I don't hate, I'm not a, I'm not a man hating bitch, but you know, Trump is just creepy and weird and he's a bully and he's this and it's like, okay, so you hate everything that makes him a guy.
04:17:51.000 So who are the guys that you like?
04:17:53.000 And they say people like Pete Davidson.
04:17:57.000 Fake guys.
04:17:58.000 Fake, not real men that get a Hillary Clinton tattoo that are not problematic, but really they're the worst offenders.
04:18:06.000 Fake men with all these fake attributes.
04:18:09.000 You know, women are high on birth control, so, you know, they like guys based on super weird preferences.
04:18:15.000 Now it's things like tattoos and they have to look like Lil Peep and stuff like that.
04:18:20.000 Anyway, I'm getting off on a tangent.
04:18:25.000 But that's really what it is.
04:18:27.000 And the gender stratification is real.
04:18:30.000 The gender, what would you call it?
04:18:35.000 I used the term earlier.
04:18:37.000 But the gender gap is increasing.
04:18:40.000 All the women are with the Democrats.
04:18:42.000 Because they're shrieking about abortion and sexual assault and being mean.
04:18:47.000 And all the guys are going with Trump.
04:18:50.000 Even, like, black guys.
04:18:52.000 And this is real.
04:18:53.000 Like, I've seen it.
04:18:54.000 You know, these kids, these TikTokers, they go and interview black people on the street.
04:18:59.000 And they say, Trump or Kamala.
04:19:00.000 And even the black guys, years ago, they'd say, Trump is racist.
04:19:04.000 Now they're like, Trump all day.
04:19:07.000 I got to get my money up.
04:19:08.000 I'm a businessman like Trump, man.
04:19:10.000 I like making money.
04:19:13.000 The guys like Trump, the girls like the Democrats.
04:19:16.000 That's what it is.
04:19:17.000 And anyway, so that's why it's hard to judge it because you say so-and-so wins, but with whom?
04:19:26.000 I think Kamala, you know, that performance, she's never going to win my vote.
04:19:33.000 She's never going to win my vote because she's just another fake, man-hating, annoying woman like they all are now.
04:19:40.000 We all know a Kamala in our lives.
04:19:45.000 They're in your office.
04:19:46.000 Sometimes they're your wife.
04:19:48.000 They're your in-laws.
04:19:49.000 We all know Akamala.
04:19:51.000 Oh, did you hear about Trump?
04:19:53.000 He's a rapist.
04:19:54.000 Blah, blah.
04:19:55.000 They can't stop talking about sexual assault.
04:19:58.000 And, you know, they were sexually assaulted.
04:20:03.000 My boyfriend's a narcissist, right?
04:20:05.000 We all know Akamala.
04:20:08.000 So that's never going to do it for me.
04:20:10.000 But I think she did a good enough job.
04:20:13.000 She was a little weak.
04:20:13.000 She was nervous.
04:20:16.000 But I think she did a good enough job.
04:20:17.000 I think she got through it.
04:20:20.000 But I think Trump won.
04:20:21.000 I think pound for pound, Trump won.
04:20:23.000 If I were to compare it to any of the debates of the past 10 years, I would compare it to The first debate between Trump and Hillary, which focus groups said Trump won.
04:20:35.000 And they actually did an experiment at a university where they had a guy stand in as Hillary Clinton and a woman stand in as Trump.
04:20:46.000 This was an experiment they did back in 16 to see if gender played a role.
04:20:52.000 And a focus group said, just based on, and the actors imitated, a woman imitated Trump and a man imitated Clinton, they went with the woman.
04:21:03.000 Just pound for pound, based on what was said.
04:21:05.000 And even the approach, because the actors acted like the candidates.
04:21:10.000 And so if I were to compare it to any performance out of the three Trump-Hillary debates, or the three Trump-Biden debates spread across 2020 and 2024, I think it was most similar to the first presidential debate in 16 where Trump was very aggressive, hit her on her record.
04:21:30.000 She was kind of caught off guard, a little bit rattled because she's a woman.
04:21:34.000 And, you know, I think Kamala is not really a national figure quite.
04:21:39.000 She hasn't really come into that yet.
04:21:41.000 She doesn't have that aura that you get when you're the president or just being a guy for that matter.
04:21:47.000 So.
04:21:50.000 I think that Trump won.
04:21:51.000 But let's take a look.
04:21:52.000 But I want to take a look.
04:21:54.000 I want to go in and look at the focus groups and see what people said.
04:21:59.000 Let's look on Polly Market.
04:22:00.000 Well, let's see what the betting the betting markets say.
04:22:04.000 Who will win the debate?
04:22:07.000 Whoa.
04:22:08.000 OK, the interesting.
04:22:12.000 The betting markets say 100 percent Kamala will win, according to the polls.
04:22:19.000 Wow.
04:22:20.000 I'm actually surprised.
04:22:22.000 I'm not shocked, but I'm a little bit surprised.
04:22:28.000 Favor to win on Polly market day after debate, 56% Kamala.
04:22:34.000 Kamala blowout victory, 23%.
04:22:35.000 Interesting.
04:22:40.000 Well, let's take a look on Twitter.
04:22:42.000 We'll see what Twitter has to say.
04:22:43.000 A lot of my clips.
04:22:48.000 Let's see.
04:22:51.000 Yeah, digits confirm.
04:22:52.000 This is real, by the way.
04:22:53.000 This is what I was talking about earlier.
04:22:59.000 Lord Keck's message will be heard upon the sevens if you reply to this post with it is written.
04:23:05.000 Seven is the most powerful magical number.
04:23:07.000 Hillary will win in a landslide.
04:23:09.000 Britain will vote remain.
04:23:10.000 Your erections will not be as strong as they once were.
04:23:14.000 Trump will win $7,777,000. This is what I was talking about earlier, by the way.
04:23:24.000 Which is so great.
04:23:25.000 All right, but let's see.
04:23:29.000 Is there any... Let's see.
04:23:32.000 Who posted a poll?
04:23:34.000 There's Candace.
04:23:35.000 Me and Candace are battling it out in private.
04:23:39.000 So we'll see what the outcome is.
04:23:42.000 Maybe I was too hard on her.
04:23:43.000 We'll see.
04:23:46.000 We're having it out in private.
04:23:50.000 So I'm not going to speak on Candace tonight.
04:23:52.000 Maybe tomorrow, we'll see.
04:23:55.000 Me and Candace are getting into it a little bit behind the scenes.
04:23:58.000 We're locking horns.
04:24:01.000 I love her.
04:24:01.000 You know, look, I love her.
04:24:04.000 But we have a little beef right now, but we're trying to squash it.
04:24:07.000 But let's see.
04:24:10.000 Who has a poll?
04:24:11.000 Someone tell me where's the poll.
04:24:14.000 We need a snap poll.
04:24:19.000 Does AF Post have it?
04:24:20.000 Someone tell me in the live chat who has a pole.
04:24:22.000 This guy probably has one, Nick Sorter.
04:24:31.000 I don't know.
04:24:40.000 People are saying, big win tonight!
04:24:43.000 Me, I'm saying it.
04:24:45.000 I'm saying that.
04:24:49.000 Let's see.
04:24:51.000 Let's see some of the highlights.
04:24:53.000 Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, spring
04:25:06.000 Thank you.
04:25:07.000 .
04:25:09.000 Where's... Okay, they didn't clip any of the good stuff.
04:25:11.000 Oh, here we go.
04:25:13.000 She was big on defund the police.
04:25:15.000 In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
04:25:17.000 If you don't mind, please.
04:25:19.000 Does that sound familiar?
04:25:21.000 She went out...
04:25:26.000 She went out.
04:25:28.000 That was so even she even she had to kneel.
04:25:31.000 Even she had to kneel.
04:25:32.000 Because that was a goat moment.
04:25:35.000 Even she had to say okay, that was awesome.
04:25:38.000 That was hilarious and awesome.
04:25:41.000 Now, but eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other people lost 300,000 men and women, but he would have been sitting in my scout quiet place.
04:25:52.000 Quiet doesn't even look at her.
04:25:56.000 But where's the poll?
04:26:00.000 Here we go.
04:26:01.000 I don't know what that is.
04:26:06.000 Let's take a look.
04:26:06.000 We got the Tates.
04:26:09.000 Are they still live?
04:26:10.000 It looks like they went offline.
04:26:14.000 Let's see.
04:26:16.000 No polls.
04:26:19.000 Someone must have done a focus group.
04:26:21.000 You know what, Frank Luntz.
04:26:22.000 This is a W. The people that came in, they're eating the cats.
04:26:27.000 They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
04:26:33.000 And this is what's happening in our country.
04:26:36.000 And it's a shame.
04:26:36.000 That is so good, man.
04:26:42.000 He is so the GOAT.
04:26:46.000 Sneeko goes off!
04:26:47.000 Face, okay?
04:26:48.000 Nigga, eat in communion.
04:26:50.000 Nigga, eat in the- Drink your Zim Zam water and get the fuck out of my face, okay?
04:26:54.000 The Zim Zam!
04:26:55.000 The Zim Zam!
04:27:00.000 Oh, that's- I'm so the goat for that, right?
04:27:03.000 My friend!
04:27:04.000 Eat in communion.
04:27:05.000 Nigga, eat in the body of Christ.
04:27:07.000 Blasphemy.
04:27:07.000 Jesus' blood talking about Zim Zam water.
04:27:09.000 Blasphemy.
04:27:10.000 Alright, bro, I'll drink my water.
04:27:11.000 You drink your blood.
04:27:12.000 Holos!
04:27:13.000 I will!
04:27:15.000 Take your Zim Zam and your pajamas and get the fuck out of my face.
04:27:17.000 I'm a Catholic.
04:27:19.000 Alright?
04:27:20.000 I didn't want- we didn't have to- it didn't start out this way.
04:27:22.000 Eat- eat your- eat your- your cannibal- eat your cannibal crackers, nigga!
04:27:27.000 Okay, this guy's a blasphemer.
04:27:29.000 This guy's a blasphemer.
04:27:30.000 When we create the confessional state, he will pay for that.
04:27:34.000 He will pay for those remarks, I swear.
04:27:36.000 I swear.
04:27:38.000 You know, we're- Catholics aren't supposed to take, you know, oaths to God.
04:27:43.000 But I, you know, we're going to let him stay.
04:27:45.000 But I swear, when there's a Catholic confessional state, he will pay for his blasphemy on God.
04:27:53.000 When we take over, when there's a Catholic monarchy in America, he can stay.
04:27:58.000 Because he's my friend, but he will pay for those remarks.
04:28:01.000 There will be lashes.
04:28:03.000 There will be lashes.
04:28:04.000 Maybe we'll cut out his tongue.
04:28:06.000 I don't know.
04:28:06.000 That's what they do.
04:28:08.000 We're not so... We're not, you know, Catholics aren't really brutal like that, because we're good people.
04:28:15.000 But there will be lashes.
04:28:19.000 Well, maybe not lashes.
04:28:20.000 That might be racist, if there were lashes.
04:28:22.000 We won't do lashes.
04:28:23.000 Maybe we'll do something else.
04:28:25.000 We can't whip him, because he's black.
04:28:27.000 We can't whip him.
04:28:28.000 There will not be, never mind, there won't be lashes.
04:28:30.000 That would be somewhat racist if we were whipping him because he is black.
04:28:36.000 So we'll have to do, we'll have to do something else.
04:28:38.000 But he will pay for the, when there is a Catholic confessional state, he will pay for the blasphemy.
04:28:43.000 He can stay, though he'll get paddled.
04:28:48.000 He'll get paddled, waterboarded maybe, since he's, you know, it is what it is.
04:28:54.000 No, but we love... It's a little banter.
04:28:56.000 It's a little banter, everybody.
04:28:57.000 You know I love Sneeko.
04:28:59.000 I love Sneeko.
04:29:00.000 He's a good guy.
04:29:01.000 I think he has a good heart.
04:29:02.000 I'm giving him a hard time, but the blasphemy, there will be a penalty.
04:29:07.000 And it won't be personal.
04:29:09.000 It's just business.
04:29:11.000 But all right, let's see.
04:29:12.000 Where's the focus group?
04:29:14.000 Hahaha Keith is so funny way.
04:29:23.000 Keith Woods, very funny guy, funny guy, my friend Keith.
04:29:29.000 Let's see.
04:29:31.000 You don't get, you know, Keith hates Trump, so he doesn't get to enjoy, you know, Keith hates America, and Keith hates Trump, so there's something a little off when he's like celebrating these moments.
04:29:41.000 They're not, you know, they really shouldn't be his, because he hates America secretly, and he hates Trump.
04:29:48.000 Because he's all about the third world and, you know, these smaller countries.
04:29:52.000 Just saying.
04:29:54.000 He hates the bigness of Trump, of America.
04:29:57.000 He hates the bigness of our submarines.
04:29:59.000 He hates the bigness of our territory.
04:30:04.000 Let's go.
04:30:08.000 I gotta tweet.
04:30:09.000 You gotta retweet this, okay?
04:30:11.000 Trump is fucking back.
04:30:13.000 Sorry for the language.
04:30:18.000 I apologize for the language.
04:30:20.000 I shouldn't swear.
04:30:20.000 Okay, W. W. John Miller.
04:30:26.000 So true.
04:30:27.000 That's so true, Caitlin.
04:30:37.000 Thank you.
04:30:39.000 But we need a focus group.
04:30:44.000 Does anyone have one?
04:30:45.000 Link me a focus group.
04:30:48.000 Oh, here we go, here we go.
04:30:50.000 Who won the debate?
04:30:51.000 46%, this is in Rhode Island, 46% say Kamala, 51% say Trump.
04:30:59.000 Okay, our first poll.
04:31:00.000 Let me see if, you know, the Trump people are only gonna post the ones that are good for Trump.
04:31:05.000 Here's another one.
04:31:07.000 This is a Twitter poll.
04:31:09.000 I don't know where this is from, though.
04:31:10.000 It says Channel 8, local NBC affiliate.
04:31:13.000 53% say Trump.
04:31:17.000 L.A.
04:31:17.000 poll, Los Angeles, 49% Trump, 51% Kamala.
04:31:22.000 You can't see it because of my head.
04:31:27.000 NJ.com, New Jersey's largest news site, 53.
04:31:30.000 So it looks like it's, and these are flash polls.
04:31:35.000 They're not scientific, but they are in blue states.
04:31:39.000 And we'll know tomorrow.
04:31:40.000 They'll conduct formal polls probably tomorrow or the day after.
04:31:43.000 But the flash polls, the shock polls say Trump won.
04:31:51.000 Not scientific, not perfect, but the data we're getting so far says Trump won, which is about what I said.
04:31:57.000 It was messy.
04:31:58.000 I don't think he ran away with it, but I think he won.
04:32:02.000 Yeah, that was the most goaded thing ever.
04:32:04.000 Trump hit her with the I'm Speaking, Chad Champion.
04:32:08.000 That's my president.
04:32:10.000 The dog thing was awesome.
04:32:12.000 Even when Trump says she hates Israel, she hates Israel.
04:32:18.000 There is something funny about saying that.
04:32:21.000 I know it's gay.
04:32:22.000 I know it's super Jewish.
04:32:24.000 But there is something funny about just saying it outright.
04:32:27.000 Well, she hates Israel.
04:32:28.000 And you know what else was funny is when he said, I'll let you in on a little secret.
04:32:33.000 He hates her, he says about Joe Biden.
04:32:37.000 He goes, I'll let you in on a little secret.
04:32:40.000 He hates her.
04:32:44.000 It's great content, if nothing else.
04:32:48.000 Fox News, Trump had a bad night.
04:32:50.000 So Fox News said that Trump lost.
04:32:54.000 Here's RFK.
04:32:54.000 Let's look at RFK's reaction.
04:32:57.000 Fact-checking Donald Trump.
04:33:00.000 None of these kind of whoppers that the vice president was saying, and none of her failure to really explain that, answer that first question, that very, very critical first question.
04:33:12.000 They simply sat there on the sidelines and allowed that to pass.
04:33:18.000 Fortunately, we had- Okay, he didn't evis- The street said he eviscerated that.
04:33:23.000 It's true.
04:33:24.000 I don't know if it was evisceration.
04:33:27.000 She went out- Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
04:33:30.000 If you don't mind, please.
04:33:31.000 Does that sound familiar?
04:33:34.000 He's such a boss.
04:33:37.000 That's, at the end of the day, he is a boss with aura.
04:33:41.000 And, you know, he makes a lot of mistakes.
04:33:43.000 It's not perfect, but at the end of the day, he's just a boss with aura.
04:33:47.000 He's a goat with aura.
04:33:49.000 Auraful goat.
04:33:52.000 He's a W.
04:33:56.000 She was big on defund the police.
04:33:58.000 In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
04:34:02.000 If you don't mind, please.
04:34:03.000 Does that sound familiar?
04:34:06.000 So cold.
04:34:07.000 Like, the delivery is just so cold.
04:34:10.000 Stops for a beat, takes a... No other Republican could do that.
04:34:14.000 You think J.D.
04:34:15.000 Vance could do that?
04:34:17.000 Do you think Mike Pence could do that?
04:34:19.000 Do you think that DeSantis could deliver it like that?
04:34:23.000 No.
04:34:25.000 Because they're not goats.
04:34:28.000 DeSantis could never, J.D.
04:34:30.000 Vance could never, ever deliver a line that cold.
04:34:37.000 Excuse me, I'm talking.
04:34:40.000 Sound familiar?
04:34:43.000 It's just dripping aura.
04:34:46.000 I know, I know, but it's just true.
04:34:51.000 She was big on defund the police.
04:34:53.000 In Minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now.
04:34:56.000 If you don't mind, please.
04:34:58.000 Does that sound familiar?
04:35:02.000 Look at her.
04:35:02.000 Look, look at how she reco- like she got a shotgun blast to the chest.
04:35:07.000 Look, just totally derailed.
04:35:10.000 Yeah.
04:35:11.000 Shut her right- shut her ass down.
04:35:14.000 Shut her ass down.
04:35:16.000 E- easily.
04:35:18.000 Look at- she's got nothing.
04:35:20.000 She's- look at that face.
04:35:22.000 Look at the eyes.
04:35:23.000 Cover her mouth.
04:35:24.000 Look at the eyes.
04:35:26.000 Let me move myself so you can see what I'm talking about.
04:35:29.000 Look at the eyes.
04:35:31.000 The raised eyebrows.
04:35:35.000 She got devastated.
04:35:38.000 I'm out.
04:35:39.000 Destroyer of worlds.
04:35:43.000 It was awesome.
04:35:45.000 Simply the best.
04:35:48.000 Simply the GOAT.
04:35:49.000 And you know me.
04:35:51.000 I'm not heaping praise upon Trump lately.
04:35:55.000 I think a lot of this stuff is cringe.
04:35:57.000 The tic-tacs, the Hannibal Lecter, run, spot, run.
04:36:01.000 You know, a lot of it's... I'm not just, like, glazing endlessly.
04:36:05.000 But I will for that, because that was... That was an epic win.
04:36:13.000 Okay.
04:36:14.000 That was an epic win, and he pwned that noob.
04:36:17.000 Bitch.
04:36:18.000 So, and you know me, I'm not one of those people, especially lately, that's just, you know, oh, Trump is so, I'm the most critical one.
04:36:30.000 Oh, looks like she had secret microphone earrings.
04:36:33.000 I don't know if I buy that.
04:36:36.000 I thought that was my best debate ever since it was three on one.
04:36:40.000 It was, I don't think it was as good as the second one with Hillary, but I would agree it was definitely up there.
04:36:47.000 I would say it's probably like Hillary 2.
04:36:54.000 I would say it's probably Hillary 2, maybe Hillary 1, and then this one.
04:37:01.000 I think this one is definitely in the top three of all time out of general election, not primary.
04:37:07.000 I don't think those count because it's too complicated.
04:37:09.000 But out of the three debates with Clinton, the three debates with Biden, the one with Kamala, I think it's either number two or number three.
04:37:18.000 All time.
04:37:19.000 Hillary Clinton debate number two was probably, I think that's indisputably the best.
04:37:26.000 That's how I feel about it.
04:37:30.000 The Abdul story was so good.
04:37:32.000 And I love that he implies that he kills people.
04:37:35.000 Like Donald Trump, you know, as a private citizen, is a pretty cool guy.
04:37:39.000 Donald Trump as the president is threatening to kill people.
04:37:44.000 And then he does.
04:37:44.000 Then he kills people.
04:37:45.000 Then he kills terrorists.
04:37:48.000 Trump gave the order and they killed a guy.
04:37:51.000 Donald Trump said to the leader of the Taliban, I will kill you, and he meant it.
04:37:58.000 The GOAT.
04:38:00.000 Richard Spencer.
04:38:01.000 Kamala one, of course.
04:38:04.000 The congenital, before anybody calls me the new Richard Spencer, the congenital contrarian.
04:38:12.000 So, I just think that like, Kamala one, okay?
04:38:19.000 Trump is sort of, it's utterly ridiculous.
04:38:25.000 And it's just sort of, you know, Trump is sort of ridiculous.
04:38:31.000 Utterly ridiculous.
04:38:34.000 It's like utterly ridiculous.
04:38:39.000 And it's just sort of like, you know, it was fun, but it's just utterly ridiculous.
04:38:46.000 And he's voters.
04:38:48.000 I mean, give me a break.
04:38:49.000 Give me a break.
04:38:51.000 Give me a break, Trump.
04:38:52.000 I mean, it's like, give me a break.
04:38:56.000 Kamala fucking won.
04:38:57.000 That's my Richard Spencer impression.
04:39:01.000 You know I like him.
04:39:02.000 I think he's funny.
04:39:03.000 I say that lovingly.
04:39:05.000 That's my loving impression of Spencer.
04:39:09.000 Give me a break.
04:39:10.000 I mean, give me a break, you fucking... Kamala won.
04:39:16.000 Utterly ridiculous.
04:39:19.000 Sort of like, ugh.
04:39:25.000 That's my, you know, but I say that lovingly.
04:39:28.000 I like Spencer, but it's so predictable.
04:39:32.000 Yeah.
04:39:33.000 I'm going to put $10 million billion on Spencer saying Kamala won.
04:39:39.000 Yeah.
04:39:40.000 Can I get, hey, can I get a bookie?
04:39:42.000 I'm going to put $10 million trillion on Richard Spencer saying Kamala won.
04:39:48.000 I think I would put that down on July 22nd.
04:39:54.000 When Trump and Kamala debate, I'm going to put all the money in the world and ever on Spencer saying Kamala.
04:40:02.000 There's literally zero permutation of possible events that could ever exist in the multiverse where Spencer says Trump wins.
04:40:12.000 I'm just going to put a little money on that real quick.
04:40:18.000 No, but I say that love.
04:40:19.000 I think he's funny.
04:40:21.000 But I, you know, I, hey, everyone takes everything so personally.
04:40:24.000 It's just a loving impression, but it's true.
04:40:30.000 Oh, man, that's funny.
04:40:32.000 What else?
04:40:33.000 We're having fun.
04:40:34.000 Dude, are you having fun yet?
04:40:35.000 The election is fun again.
04:40:37.000 It was so lame.
04:40:39.000 The RNC was just like torture.
04:40:44.000 I think I would rather be subject—well, I don't want to, you know, knock on wood, because, like, someone would, but, like, torture would be preferable to the RNC and the DNC combined.
04:40:53.000 It was, like, my personal hell.
04:40:56.000 That was my personal hell.
04:40:58.000 I was stuck here with you, watching the RNC, and it was, like, another black guy.
04:41:05.000 How about another black guy?
04:41:07.000 How about another—I felt like—remember when that, uh, What was her name from Alabama, said the response to the State of the Union.
04:41:16.000 They were being raped over and over.
04:41:18.000 That's what it felt like at the RNC and DNC.
04:41:21.000 One after the other.
04:41:22.000 My mama ain't got a dollar, but she knew a little something about being president of the United States.
04:41:31.000 One after the other, after the other, after the... And it's just like I lost track of time.
04:41:36.000 I forgot who I was.
04:41:37.000 It was like ego death.
04:41:40.000 I don't even know who I am anymore.
04:41:42.000 Why are they sending this guy out?
04:41:44.000 It's like the guy came up.
04:41:45.000 It's like those TikToks when you have a set of identical twins and one of them comes up to the guy and they're like, wake up, wake up.
04:41:54.000 And then they go down the escalator and the guy that looks identical says the same thing.
04:41:59.000 It's like a simulation prank.
04:42:00.000 They sent out a black Republican.
04:42:03.000 My daddy was a janitor and my mama, big cotton.
04:42:07.000 And now I'm a senator in the United States Senate.
04:42:11.000 And then that guy turned around and left.
04:42:13.000 And then he turned around backstage and then he walked back out and said the exact same thing.
04:42:18.000 And then he turned around and left, spun around in a circle, came out, and then he gave the exact same speech.
04:42:24.000 And I'm like, am I going crazy?
04:42:27.000 Is this like Shutter Island?
04:42:29.000 Is any of this real?
04:42:34.000 Am I on some kind of DMT trip?
04:42:36.000 What kind of convention is this?
04:42:38.000 What kind of psychological horror torture chamber is this?
04:42:43.000 You know, that was the RNC.
04:42:45.000 Then they prayed to Waheguru, and then I definitely thought I was out to lunch.
04:42:51.000 They sang that song to Waheguru, and I'm like, where are we?
04:42:55.000 What happened?
04:42:58.000 Is this another timeline?
04:43:01.000 Anyway, so, so anyway, so are you having fun?
04:43:04.000 I'm having a lot of fun tonight.
04:43:05.000 Trump made it fun.
04:43:07.000 It was funny.
04:43:08.000 It was good content.
04:43:09.000 He talked about immigration.
04:43:11.000 I feel good.
04:43:12.000 I feel good.
04:43:13.000 I'm very pleased.
04:43:15.000 And you know what?
04:43:17.000 Groyper War smiles upon this performance.
04:43:20.000 The official position, the Groypers smile upon this performance.
04:43:25.000 The Keck, Keck is pleased.
04:43:29.000 I believe that if Keck is watching this performance, Keck smiles upon the performance.
04:43:38.000 And the Groipers smile upon the performance.
04:43:41.000 We look favorably upon it, and it will reflect in our treatment of Trump.
04:43:47.000 I thought it was excellent.
04:43:48.000 What do the Groipers think?
04:43:49.000 Put a W in the chat, W or L, for the performance tonight.
04:43:53.000 I want to take a poll from the Groipers.
04:43:56.000 Let's have a little show of support here.
04:43:59.000 W's in the chat if you think, as a Groiper, that Trump got you a little bit back on his side tonight.
04:44:09.000 Is Trump earning your support back?
04:44:11.000 Put a W in the chat.
04:44:12.000 A lot of W's.
04:44:14.000 I think it's unanimous.
04:44:18.000 More of this.
04:44:21.000 We need more of this.
04:44:23.000 I'll take a thousand.
04:44:29.000 This was excellent.
04:44:30.000 Great night tonight.
04:44:31.000 But let's take a look if we have a snap poll.
04:44:34.000 Do we?
04:44:35.000 John Miller, MAGA hat back on.
04:44:46.000 There's that face.
04:44:48.000 Now there's a black for Trump that I can support.
04:44:51.000 That's funny.
04:44:58.000 a Yeah, no, but we it's a big love fest.
04:45:27.000 It's a love fest tonight.
04:45:29.000 We're loving on my impression.
04:45:32.000 Dude, the clipping is insane.
04:45:34.000 Dude, they clip that 10 seconds.
04:45:37.000 I think they finished clipping that before I finished saying it.
04:45:43.000 Trump is sort of ridiculous.
04:45:45.000 Utterly ridiculous.
04:45:49.000 It's like.
04:45:51.000 Utterly ridiculous.
04:45:53.000 And it's just sort of like, you know, it was fun, but it's just utterly ridiculous.
04:46:00.000 And he's voters.
04:46:01.000 I mean, give me a break.
04:46:04.000 Give me a break.
04:46:05.000 Give me a break, Trump.
04:46:07.000 It's like, give me a break.
04:46:10.000 So good.
04:46:11.000 That's a good impression because that's how he says it.
04:46:14.000 Oh man, we're having a good time tonight.
04:46:17.000 We hit 100,000 subs on Rumble.
04:46:19.000 Thank you so much for 100,000 subs.
04:46:22.000 I'm going to see if I can get a flash poll here.
04:46:24.000 I think they said CNN did one.
04:46:27.000 Let me get CNN.
04:46:28.000 Well, look at that.
04:46:30.000 I don't know if I'll read super chats.
04:46:32.000 Oh, I'm going to have to.
04:46:33.000 There's like 50 of them.
04:46:34.000 I'll read the super chats, then I'm going to get out of here.
04:46:38.000 It's not a ton, but it's enough.
04:46:40.000 I'll do it.
04:46:45.000 Let's see, okay, well this isn't, we need like CNN news or something.
04:46:52.000 Let's take, or politics?
04:46:56.000 They said someone did a, CNN did a focus group.
04:46:59.000 That's what I'm looking for.
04:47:01.000 Maybe Frank, Frank Luntz probably did one, right?
04:47:04.000 I think he blocked me though.
04:47:05.000 No, okay, we're good.
04:47:07.000 Oh, he's just seething about Trump, this fat, fat little Jew.
04:47:18.000 Um...
04:47:23.000 Trump sucks.
04:47:26.000 Isn't it interesting, though, that, like, all the people that suck hated it and all the people that are cool loved it?
04:47:33.000 Well, there's a lot of shills that like it.
04:47:36.000 I mean, they would eat it up no matter what.
04:47:39.000 Dude, come on now.
04:47:40.000 Who do you got winning this debate?
04:47:42.000 Come on now.
04:47:43.000 We can't, dude, stop.
04:47:44.000 Get that off the timeline.
04:47:45.000 This is, this is a, come on.
04:47:48.000 I disavow that.
04:47:49.000 Come on, don't.
04:47:51.000 He said, he said Israel and Edwards win the debate.
04:47:56.000 I said, don't ever say that again.
04:48:02.000 Okay, now the cringe Trump impression.
04:48:04.000 Hey, we all have to do it once, once in a while.
04:48:08.000 Knew we were getting primal Trump when I, dude, he's the emperor.
04:48:12.000 Awe, true to Caesar.
04:48:13.000 or... We're back. We're back.
04:48:36.000 See, we don't even have to fake it.
04:48:37.000 Cause it was good.
04:48:39.000 Oh geez.
04:48:45.000 Ben Shapiro.
04:48:47.000 This debate won't matter.
04:48:49.000 And was just eliminated as an inflection point.
04:48:52.000 The American people still know nothing about her positions.
04:48:55.000 Donald Trump is still Trump.
04:48:56.000 And the legacy media are a giant flaming dog turd.
04:49:02.000 Giant flaming dog turd.
04:49:03.000 Why is it always scatological?
04:49:05.000 Why are they always talking about poo?
04:49:06.000 Why are these sick Jews always talking about poo?
04:49:11.000 Sick Jews always talking about shit and piss.
04:49:14.000 It's really pissing me off lately.
04:49:16.000 Really frustrating.
04:49:17.000 Clean up your act.
04:49:20.000 Clean up your act, you little goblin.
04:49:21.000 Family show.
04:49:24.000 And flaming dog turd.
04:49:25.000 They're always talking about poo.
04:49:26.000 You ever notice that?
04:49:27.000 freaks. Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala. A Jewish right A big surprise.
04:49:46.000 Big surprise!
04:49:47.000 The Jews don't support Trump.
04:49:51.000 Some of them do.
04:49:59.000 Alright, I don't know.
04:50:00.000 Are we going to get a flash poll?
04:50:01.000 I mean, I'm looking for one.
04:50:03.000 Is anyone doing one?
04:50:04.000 I feel like that should be everywhere.
04:50:08.000 Maybe AF Post?
04:50:09.000 This is Spencer just making sure I don't fit in.
04:50:19.000 Very good.
04:50:19.000 Well done.
04:50:22.000 I love it.
04:50:23.000 Dude, we're back.
04:50:24.000 We're having fun.
04:50:25.000 It's a great, funny debate.
04:50:28.000 Everyone's having a good time.
04:50:29.000 Refill your popcorn.
04:50:31.000 This is wholesome.
04:50:33.000 This is a homecoming.
04:50:34.000 Dude, Chad Champion's funny.
04:50:41.000 We're all the funny Groypers.
04:50:43.000 We need more funny Groypers.
04:50:45.000 Chad Champion's a funny Groyper.
04:50:47.000 Finn is a good Groyper.
04:50:49.000 Who else?
04:50:54.000 Holocaust Incel or something?
04:50:57.000 He's a good poster.
04:50:58.000 I don't even know what his handle is.
04:51:03.000 It's very inappropriate.
04:51:05.000 But he's funny.
04:51:07.000 We need more funny Groypers.
04:51:08.000 We need really funny content.
04:51:12.000 Everything's super cringe lately.
04:51:15.000 Oh, come on.
04:51:16.000 You know, they're having a little trouble with the view count.
04:51:18.000 Come on, Sam.
04:51:20.000 It's a little glitched.
04:51:22.000 Let's see.
04:51:27.000 W, Megyn Kelly.
04:51:30.000 W, bleeding from her wherever.
04:51:31.000 All right.
04:51:36.000 Where's the flash poll?
04:51:41.000 Whatever.
04:51:41.000 Alright, maybe we'll just do Super Chats.
04:51:43.000 I can't find a poll.
04:51:46.000 I'm seeing, you know, there's a lot of, like, online polls.
04:51:50.000 Look at this.
04:51:51.000 Minutes of speaking time.
04:51:54.000 Harris got 28 minutes.
04:51:56.000 Trump got 35.
04:51:58.000 So he got 25% more time.
04:52:01.000 A little quick math for you there.
04:52:04.000 25% more time than Kamala.
04:52:05.000 I did notice that as well.
04:52:06.000 Yeah, well that's our overall takeaway.
04:52:14.000 So I think Trump won.
04:52:15.000 You know, I think he overheated a little bit, but I welcome it.
04:52:19.000 I welcome the new Trump, or the old Trump, I should say.
04:52:22.000 Old Trump is back.
04:52:23.000 I hope he keeps that energy.
04:52:25.000 Keep talking about immigration.
04:52:26.000 keep being outrageous, funny, all that stuff.
04:52:29.000 I can't seem to find a poll, but yeah, Taylor, I guess this just happened.
04:52:38.000 Thank you.
04:52:40.000 Like many of you, she says.
04:52:45.000 Like many of you, I watched the debate tonight.
04:52:47.000 If you haven't already, now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on the topics that matter the most.
04:52:56.000 As a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can.
04:52:59.000 Recently, I was made aware of that AI of me falsely endorsing Trump, and it was posted to a site.
04:53:05.000 It really conjured up fears around AI and the dangers of misinformation.
04:53:10.000 It brought me to the conclusion that I need to be transparent about my actual plans.
04:53:14.000 I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris.
04:53:16.000 I'm voting for Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
04:53:24.000 I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of a running mate who has been standing up for LGBTQ plus rights, IVF, and a women's right to her own body for decades.
04:53:35.000 Your research is yours to do.
04:53:38.000 The choice is yours to make.
04:53:40.000 Vote early.
04:53:41.000 With love and hope, Taylor Swift, Childless Cat Lady.
04:53:44.000 Oh, fuck off, you stupid bitch.
04:53:46.000 I'm just so sick of- I'm really just sick of the women, man.
04:53:50.000 You know?
04:53:53.000 Since- With love and hope, Taylor Swift.
04:53:56.000 P.S.
04:53:57.000 I'm a childless cat lady.
04:53:59.000 Ha ha ha ha.
04:54:01.000 Fucking stupid bitch.
04:54:02.000 I hate it, man.
04:54:04.000 Her and her, you know, beta male boyfriend, they're d- Oh look, they're dancing at the game!
04:54:08.000 Oh, they're so cute!
04:54:10.000 This was timed.
04:54:11.000 This was planned.
04:54:13.000 They had this one teed up.
04:54:15.000 This was their ace in the hole.
04:54:16.000 However the debate goes, Taylor Swift's going to endorse and take the news cycle.
04:54:21.000 You know 100% this was planned with the campaign.
04:54:26.000 She's a MKUltra operative, practically.
04:54:29.000 She's a New World Order slave.
04:54:32.000 So she's gonna go up there.
04:54:34.000 The fix was in from the beginning.
04:54:37.000 However the debate goes, she's going to come in at the end of it and say, oh, I endorsed Kamala and that's all anyone's going to talk about.
04:54:47.000 That was their backup plan.
04:54:49.000 They rigged the debate with the moderators.
04:54:51.000 The moderators were full of it.
04:54:55.000 Rigged it with the moderators.
04:54:57.000 Kamala sucked.
04:54:58.000 And now Taylor Swift comes in.
04:54:59.000 That's the ace in the hole.
04:55:01.000 The biggest pop star in the world with the highest grossing tour ever comes in with all the impressionable women and young people and says, I'm a childless cat lady.
04:55:11.000 I'm going to endorse Kamala because of abortion.
04:55:15.000 Vote early, and now they're all going to vote early.
04:55:18.000 It's like I said, that's why it's a turnout game.
04:55:20.000 Because Trump is never going to beat the stupid bitches with abortion and with IVF.
04:55:27.000 You just need to turn out your base.
04:55:29.000 You need to turn out guys.
04:55:31.000 You need to turn out conservatives.
04:55:32.000 You need to turn out white people.
04:55:34.000 Because they're going to turn—all the women are going to say, yes, vote for Kamala.
04:55:40.000 Oh my god.
04:55:41.000 Like, whatever.
04:55:41.000 That's how it goes.
04:55:45.000 All those idiot girls that went to this concert and dragged their stupid boyfriends and they put on this dreadful makeup and did their stupid hair and dressed with their slutty outfit.
04:55:57.000 They all go to the Taylor Swift thing, boyfriend in tow.
04:56:00.000 Come on, honey, come on.
04:56:02.000 Buy me a ticket to Taylor Swift.
04:56:05.000 Pay for parking, pay for dinner, buy me an appetizer, buy me a drink, put your card down, or I want, you know, that whole deal.
04:56:12.000 And now they're all going to vote for Taylor Swift.
04:56:14.000 So it's a load of cry. Just I'm so sick of it.
04:56:22.000 This country's ridiculous.
04:56:24.000 Country's being, like, raped by immigrants, and, you know, the Jews bought the politicians, and the fix is in because of, like, the most insufferable women you've ever met who hate men, who hate their fathers.
04:56:38.000 And there's Brandt doing his thing.
04:56:40.000 Brandt says hello from Korea.
04:56:45.000 And there's- and there's Brandt doing his thing.
04:56:49.000 Holocaust rape is what it was the real handle.
04:56:54.000 Yeah, that's great optics.
04:56:56.000 Oh, and she's got a cat.
04:56:57.000 Oh, that's great.
04:57:01.000 Yeah, you're washed.
04:57:02.000 Wall.
04:57:04.000 Talk about building a wall.
04:57:06.000 She ran into it.
04:57:09.000 Trump built a wall and Taylor Swift ran into it.
04:57:16.000 All right.
04:57:21.000 That's kind of funny.
04:57:23.000 Kind of, but not really.
04:57:26.000 Alright, let's take a look at the super chats Something to do with cats cats
04:57:36.000 Cats were like revered in Egypt, and now it's eating cats, cat lady, cat boy.
04:57:43.000 What is it with cats?
04:57:44.000 There's something going on.
04:57:46.000 Mark my words, there is something gnostic going on with the cats.
04:57:52.000 There's something going on with cats and frogs.
04:57:55.000 Isn't it the year of the tiger?
04:57:57.000 There's something going on with cats and frogs.
04:58:01.000 Cats revered in Egypt.
04:58:05.000 Feline god.
04:58:08.000 Haitians eating cats.
04:58:09.000 Cats with Trump.
04:58:10.000 Cat boy.
04:58:11.000 Nick Fuentes cat boy date.
04:58:15.000 Taylor Swift cat lady.
04:58:17.000 Kamala Harris cat lady.
04:58:19.000 What's going on?
04:58:19.000 We gotta get to the bottom of this.
04:58:22.000 We need to get to the, but what's going on with the cats?
04:58:27.000 It's all cats.
04:58:29.000 I hate cats.
04:58:31.000 I'm allergic to them.
04:58:36.000 So, yeah, there's something up, but there's something esoteric going on there.
04:58:41.000 Same thing with frogs.
04:58:46.000 I don't know, I don't know what Pepe, Groyper, Kek, there's something up.
04:58:52.000 Something going on.
04:58:58.000 Anyway.
04:58:59.000 All right, but let's take a look at our Super Chat.
04:59:05.000 That's kind of funny.
04:59:06.000 Let's take a look at our Super Chats.
04:59:08.000 We'll see what we got going on here.
04:59:10.000 Follow me on RumbleFacebook.
04:59:20.000 Follow me on Twitter.
04:59:22.000 Juice my tweet.
04:59:24.000 I'm gonna delete this now.
04:59:26.000 It's killing my engagement probably.
04:59:27.000 And these two.
04:59:34.000 Not good for engagement.
04:59:36.000 Look at these clips.
04:59:36.000 These clips are crazy.
04:59:38.000 15,000 likes.
04:59:38.000 A million views.
04:59:40.000 W. Pretty big stream.
04:59:42.000 48,000.
04:59:42.000 We peaked at almost 50,000.
04:59:44.000 Dude, the goat is back.
04:59:47.000 Return of the goat.
04:59:50.000 Exiled.
04:59:52.000 In a lot of ways, unlike Trump, I was exiled for four years.
04:59:56.000 I had 70,000 on DLive on election night.
05:00:00.000 Was sent into the wilderness for four years.
05:00:02.000 Came back awesome style, aura-fully.
05:00:06.000 And now I run Rumble, third biggest stream on Rumble.
05:00:10.000 What up?
05:00:11.000 Anyway.
05:00:13.000 All right, but let's take a look at our Super Chats, then I'm gonna get out, excuse me, get out of here, because it's been a long stream.
05:00:20.000 Four-hour stream, so let's take a look.
05:00:23.000 We'll read these, and then I'm gonna go.
05:00:26.000 Tomorrow, for those that don't know, I'm on the air every weeknight at 8 o'clock Central Time.
05:00:32.000 I'm live every night, Monday through Friday, at 8 o'clock Central.
05:00:36.000 I'll be back tomorrow at 8, and I'll give a full analysis, breakdown, very technical, about the debate.
05:00:43.000 We'll talk about the polls, everything.
05:00:45.000 So, you don't want to miss tomorrow, because we'll go into all of it and the Taylor Swift thing.
05:00:50.000 So tomorrow, eight o'clock, tune in.
05:00:51.000 I do this show every night.
05:00:53.000 Welcome new viewers.
05:00:55.000 If you're just tuning in, well, you're probably not, but if you just tuned in tonight, I appreciate you tuning into my live coverage.
05:01:03.000 Thank you guys for the big support tonight.
05:01:05.000 Big viewership.
05:01:07.000 Love all of you.
05:01:08.000 Welcome in.
05:01:09.000 We're going to be covering everything from now until the election.
05:01:13.000 I'm locked in.
05:01:14.000 Okay.
05:01:15.000 But let's take a look at our Super Chats.
05:01:17.000 We'll see what you guys have to say.
05:01:19.000 We got about 50 of these.
05:01:22.000 So we'll go through them.
05:01:23.000 I'm going to be a little strategic.
05:01:30.000 We have a huge audience.
05:01:31.000 I may save some of these for tomorrow.
05:01:33.000 Maybe I'll just read the big ones.
05:01:36.000 Al Dente sent $100.
05:01:38.000 Cheers.
05:01:38.000 Cheers!
05:01:39.000 Thank you for the big Super Chat.
05:01:42.000 Good times, right?
05:01:54.000 No, she got schlonged.
05:01:55.000 Tonight, Kamala got schlonged.
05:01:57.000 I was wrong.
05:01:57.000 Well, I'm not really wrong, because everything I said came to fruition.
05:02:01.000 Trump pulled the wild card.
05:02:03.000 Kamala did what I thought she would.
05:02:05.000 Trump was unprepared, but he salvaged it, because he always pulls it out.
05:02:09.000 So I was basically on the money, but thank you for the huge super chat!
05:02:14.000 07s to A$AP Groipa.
05:02:17.000 Part of the A$AP mob.
05:02:18.000 I appreciate it, man.
05:02:20.000 God bless.
05:02:21.000 Yeah, no, Kamala got schlonged.
05:02:24.000 And by that, I mean she got beaten very badly tonight.
05:02:27.000 And it was awesome.
05:02:28.000 And the goat is back.
05:02:29.000 And you know, the Groipers smile favorably upon this.
05:02:33.000 Kenton Meyer sent $50 new Katie. Yeah true Let me post a serious take though
05:02:57.000 I'm gonna post a serious take though I'm gonna post a serious take though
05:03:57.000 Let me do this lowercase.
05:04:05.000 Official take.
05:04:06.000 That's my official take.
05:04:07.000 Retweet it.
05:04:08.000 Like it.
05:04:09.000 Retweet it.
05:04:10.000 Quote, tweet it, comment.
05:04:13.000 Tonight, Trump was bold, outrageous, genuinely funny, and most importantly, focused on immigration.
05:04:19.000 This is the America First playbook that he needs to run until the election and what will save the country.
05:04:23.000 Epic performance tonight.
05:04:24.000 W. Trump.
05:04:27.000 Retweet it, like it, and deploy it.
05:04:30.000 Deploy it in your daily existence.
05:04:33.000 All right, but let's look at some more super chats.
05:04:35.000 A little live tweeting.
05:04:37.000 We're having a good time.
05:04:39.000 Okay.
05:04:49.000 for ,
05:05:28.000 is Thank you.
05:05:59.000 Boom.
05:05:59.000 Another.
05:06:00.000 And another one.
05:06:00.000 But just retweet this one.
05:06:02.000 Just retweet this main one.
05:06:04.000 Retweet.
05:06:04.000 We could do this stuff with the other one, but mainly juice this one.
05:06:09.000 All right.
05:06:09.000 Let's, uh, let's see.
05:06:10.000 Do we have any other big ones?
05:06:12.000 I think those are the big ones.
05:06:13.000 I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna save the smaller ones for tomorrow because it's gonna be a lot of crap, you know?
05:06:17.000 Maybe I'll I'll kind of pick some of these out.
05:06:22.000 I don't want to do a bunch of nonsense tonight where people are trolling me.
05:06:32.000 Thank you, man.
05:06:33.000 Yeah, huge night.
05:06:34.000 Honestly, huge night for Trump.
05:06:36.000 Huge night for me.
05:06:37.000 48,000 live viewers, 100,000 subs.
05:06:41.000 Thank you guys all for the support.
05:06:42.000 I really appreciate it.
05:06:44.000 I know I give people a hard time in the super chats, but I genuinely appreciate it.
05:06:48.000 And yeah, I thought tonight was a great night.
05:06:51.000 A lot of fun, good content, high energy.
05:06:54.000 All good.
05:06:55.000 You know, it makes me feel like it's been a lot of black pills lately.
05:06:58.000 Tonight was a white pill.
05:07:00.000 Tonight was good.
05:07:01.000 Thank you so much.
05:07:03.000 Thank you for the big super chat, man.
05:07:04.000 I really appreciate it.
05:07:05.000 Love you too, buddy.
05:07:06.000 Viewership and 100k followers. Thank you so much. Thank you for the big super chat, man. I really appreciate it
05:07:12.000 Love you too, buddy Let's see
05:07:18.000 What else do we got going on here I
05:07:26.000 I I
05:07:30.000 I and I'll see you next time.
05:07:36.000 It's exactly like that.
05:07:37.000 It's exactly like that.
05:07:57.000 When Trump is being totally lame, they love him.
05:08:01.000 When Trump is being awesome, oh, then suddenly he's blowing it.
05:08:05.000 Oh, we don't like to see that.
05:08:06.000 Oh, he blew it.
05:08:07.000 They always, that's how they play.
05:08:09.000 If Fox News hated it, that means it was good.
05:08:12.000 So yeah, I thought it was great.
05:08:14.000 I really liked it.
05:08:16.000 I thought it was, you know, and like I said, it wasn't perfect.
05:08:19.000 And I hope people can see, because a lot has been said about me in this cycle.
05:08:23.000 It's been very controversial.
05:08:26.000 It's really simple.
05:08:28.000 I want the energy and I want the message of 16.
05:08:31.000 I want it to be America first.
05:08:33.000 And the core of that really is immigration.
05:08:37.000 And deeply related to that also is foreign policy.
05:08:40.000 But immigration is the big one.
05:08:42.000 And all I have said from the start is immigration, immigration, immigration.
05:08:47.000 We don't want the people.
05:08:49.000 We don't want to bring in legal immigrants or green cards on their diplomas.
05:08:53.000 We want Nativism.
05:08:55.000 We want America first.
05:08:56.000 We want America to be protected from this onslaught of illegals.
05:09:00.000 I said, and we want Trump to be himself.
05:09:03.000 He's been so muted and so subdued.
05:09:06.000 And you can tell that's the people in his ear telling him that that works.
05:09:11.000 To summarize, I was never a Trump hater.
05:09:14.000 I never hated Trump.
05:09:16.000 Deeply frustrated by him, but really being honest about how I felt as a Trump supporter.
05:09:21.000 As a Trump supporter my entire adult life as someone who's extremely right-wing and would never vote for Democrats or like Kamala Harris.
05:09:30.000 You know, I've said it from the start, but people go, oh, you know, if you're if you're not on board with everything, you're a hater.
05:09:38.000 If you're not on board with all this crap.
05:09:41.000 Oh, well, you're a Democrat.
05:09:43.000 You know, I hope people can see I've been pretty honest about this.
05:09:46.000 Well, I've been 100 percent honest.
05:09:49.000 And objective this entire time.
05:09:50.000 I started out tonight saying, yeah, I think it's going to be sloppy.
05:09:54.000 But, you know, Trump has this tendency to pull that out.
05:09:57.000 It's exactly what happened.
05:09:58.000 And I'm a simple guy.
05:10:00.000 Talk about immigration.
05:10:01.000 And I'm on your side.
05:10:03.000 Talk about immigration.
05:10:04.000 And I'm with it.
05:10:06.000 Be yourself.
05:10:06.000 Be outrageous.
05:10:08.000 Don't be a bitch.
05:10:09.000 Be Trump.
05:10:11.000 And I love it.
05:10:12.000 Just like I loved it for 10 years.
05:10:14.000 And, you know, we can work out the details.
05:10:18.000 Politics is tough.
05:10:19.000 It's complicated.
05:10:20.000 And I'm down for it.
05:10:21.000 I'm down to support when it's difficult.
05:10:24.000 But we need to see some commitment That he will follow through on the America First agenda.
05:10:31.000 And I was down for it in the first administration.
05:10:34.000 I defended him a lot.
05:10:37.000 And I'm willing to be fair.
05:10:39.000 Like when I went on Michael Tracy's show.
05:10:41.000 I went on Michael Tracy's show a few months ago.
05:10:43.000 If you watch that, you'd think I'm Trump's cheerleader.
05:10:48.000 Because I think I'm very fair.
05:10:49.000 And I'm willing to be fair.
05:10:51.000 And I understand, like I said, Trump is what he is.
05:10:53.000 The situation is what it is.
05:10:55.000 And I'm a grown person.
05:10:56.000 I get it.
05:10:58.000 But we just need to see some willingness on Trump's part.
05:11:01.000 We need to see that that spark is still there.
05:11:04.000 Is he going to fight?
05:11:05.000 Is it going to be legit?
05:11:08.000 And for the past four months, we haven't seen it.
05:11:10.000 That's when I blew up.
05:11:12.000 Because it was kind of okay, you know, he was talking about retribution, and it was, you know, it was kind of a mixed bag, but it really just started to blow for the past four or five months.
05:11:24.000 And tonight, I feel like this is the guy, you know, this is how it should be.
05:11:30.000 So...
05:11:33.000 I'm not someone who cannot be pleased.
05:11:35.000 I'm not somebody who's gonna sit there and say, you know, everything he does is wrong.
05:11:40.000 Nothing he could do is okay.
05:11:42.000 No, this is what we want to see.
05:11:44.000 This is good.
05:11:46.000 Some of this shit lately, not good.
05:11:48.000 The presser he did in New Jersey with the groceries, lame.
05:11:53.000 The Hannibal Lecter stuff, these meandering speeches, lame, weak.
05:11:58.000 This was good.
05:11:59.000 This was really good.
05:12:01.000 Oh, it needs to be like this every time.
05:12:04.000 So I just want, I want to clear that up because, man, people say a lot of stuff about me and Trump and, you know, how I feel about all that.
05:12:13.000 But I hope, you know, I have a big audience tonight.
05:12:15.000 Set the record straight.
05:12:17.000 I want Trump to succeed, but we, we, uh, the base needs to remind him.
05:12:25.000 That we need to be listened to as well.
05:12:28.000 You can't just appease the donors and the middle and the establishment.
05:12:35.000 There actually needs to be some confidence that you're going to follow through for your base.
05:12:41.000 You need to demonstrate that.
05:12:43.000 That's just as important, I would say more important, than signaling to the other side, you know, what they call running to the middle.
05:12:50.000 It's more important than that.
05:12:53.000 So...
05:12:55.000 I just want to clear that up.
05:12:57.000 Let's see.
05:12:58.000 Yep.
05:12:58.000 to see a lot of the same I'm sure Lassa Vita and Wiles were shaking their heads tonight, and I'm sure they're going to want to go on damage control.
05:13:25.000 I'm sure they think he overdid it, took the bait, got personal, was too angry.
05:13:31.000 I'm sure they hated it.
05:13:33.000 And you know what?
05:13:34.000 They haven't won elections.
05:13:36.000 They didn't win in 16.
05:13:37.000 Trump did.
05:13:40.000 So you're right.
05:13:40.000 That's a very good point.
05:13:42.000 You're 100% right.
05:13:44.000 They probably hated it.
05:13:47.000 You know, and Susie Wiles isn't like a terrible person, but she doesn't get it.
05:13:51.000 Chris LaCivita's a piece of shit.
05:13:53.000 Susie Wiles is like a nice old grandma.
05:13:55.000 She's out to lunch.
05:13:56.000 She don't get it.
05:13:56.000 It is what it is.
05:13:58.000 But they don't understand.
05:14:01.000 And I'm sure they thought he blew it, went way over the top.
05:14:04.000 Maybe they didn't, but I'm sure that's what they think.
05:14:09.000 And, uh, you know, but it's a conflict of vision, so you're 100% on the money with that.
05:14:14.000 And you're right, we have to keep up the pressure.
05:14:16.000 I'm not relenting, but you know what?
05:14:19.000 We do need to show some give here.
05:14:22.000 If Trump does well, we need to say, hey, you know what?
05:14:25.000 We'll reward that.
05:14:26.000 The Groypers will say, hey, you're good.
05:14:29.000 We're not going to back off completely, but, uh, you know, this does change how I feel about him.
05:14:36.000 This was make or break.
05:14:38.000 I was totally blackpilled yesterday.
05:14:40.000 I've been blackpilled.
05:14:42.000 This was just enough to maybe, maybe some would say to keep me strung along and maybe that's the case.
05:14:48.000 That's why we can't totally sell and say, all right, we're with Trump again.
05:14:52.000 I'm not selling just yet, but you know, this was very good.
05:14:56.000 So, and it's, I certainly consider this, but.
05:15:02.000 yeah that's how I feel Chugga sent $25, even though it was cringe trump saying Kamala
05:15:07.000 hates Israel and wants it gone did force her to reaffirm her love for Israel which is poison for her base
05:15:12.000 thanks for covering the debate by the way you make it way better
05:15:15.000 hey thank you very much man I appreciate you saying that.
05:15:19.000 That's the last Super Chat I'm going to read.
05:15:20.000 If I didn't read yours, I will read them tomorrow.
05:15:24.000 It's a huge stream.
05:15:24.000 I don't want to read everything because it's going to be a lot and it's going to be a lot of goofy stuff.
05:15:29.000 People are going to be trolling me, so we'll save that for a regular show.
05:15:33.000 But that's going to do it for my coverage of the debate.
05:15:37.000 I think it was a great night all the way around.
05:15:39.000 I'm so pleased with it.
05:15:41.000 Like I said, I've been really kind of Despondent about it.
05:15:46.000 I've been very angry lately because the country is so bad.
05:15:50.000 It's slipping through our fingers.
05:15:52.000 We can see it in real time.
05:15:54.000 And lately...
05:15:56.000 The way Trump is running the campaign, it feels like we don't have a voice.
05:16:01.000 It feels like heads they win, tails we lose.
05:16:05.000 There's no scenario where Americans are heard.
05:16:08.000 And I still believe that Trump represents the opportunity for us to make things better, but it's by no means a guarantee.
05:16:16.000 Because the first term was not everything we wanted.
05:16:19.000 It fell far short.
05:16:21.000 And this may be the last chance.
05:16:23.000 And I think they kind of blew it last time.
05:16:26.000 And I don't want them to blow it this time.
05:16:27.000 I don't want them to blow the election.
05:16:29.000 And if they win, what would be worse, I don't want them to blow a second term.
05:16:34.000 So out of an abundance of care, but also frustration, we have really tried to stir up some negativity So that Trump will hear us and listen to our concerns and get back to that message and those issues.
05:16:53.000 Inflation's bad.
05:16:54.000 The economy's bad.
05:16:56.000 But you have to see the bigger picture.
05:16:58.000 The primary problem is that we have no borders.
05:17:01.000 10 million illegals in four years.
05:17:03.000 And like Trump said, that's deeply related to inflation and the economy.
05:17:08.000 So if you're not talking immigration, you're just not talking as far as I'm concerned.
05:17:12.000 If you're not talking about The invasion of the country, then you're just not talking about politics.
05:17:19.000 And I don't want to listen to anything else.
05:17:22.000 So, I've had a lot of negative feelings about this election.
05:17:28.000 And I felt very bad about how it's been going.
05:17:30.000 I think they've been doing a horrible job.
05:17:33.000 And the numbers speak for themselves.
05:17:35.000 They've been blowing it.
05:17:37.000 And the energy is not there.
05:17:39.000 And I think the turnout is a real concern.
05:17:44.000 But tonight, you know, he did it again.
05:17:50.000 It's like I said at the top.
05:17:51.000 It was messy.
05:17:52.000 It was sloppy.
05:17:53.000 He was unprepared.
05:17:54.000 He left a lot on the table.
05:17:57.000 It wasn't optimal.
05:17:58.000 But we're reminded why we supported him in the beginning.
05:18:02.000 And we're also reminded what the conflict of visions really is between him and Kamala.
05:18:09.000 And so this performance showed that Trump still has a little bit of fight in him, and I think it's worth still engaging.
05:18:18.000 Don't be disengaged just yet.
05:18:21.000 I think it's still worth keeping this conversation going and being a part of the legitimate political process, engaging with Trump and the campaign and in politics, in the swing states.
05:18:33.000 You know, maybe there's still a chance.
05:18:35.000 And I hope that's not copium.
05:18:37.000 You know, I'm not trying to cope.
05:18:39.000 But tonight, when he made it all about immigration, it's like, you know, and then again, he always, I'll be, you know, I'm going to be honest, I'll be a little more critical tomorrow.
05:18:49.000 But what I feel more than anything is a lot of relief.
05:18:53.000 It's like, okay, I'm glad to hear at the minimum, this is good that this is being talked about, you know, but what we need is more than just talk.
05:19:01.000 We need action.
05:19:02.000 We need policy.
05:19:03.000 We need action.
05:19:04.000 We need confidence that they're going to do something about this.
05:19:07.000 And that's the part that's lacking.
05:19:10.000 He can still talk a pretty good game.
05:19:11.000 You know, okay, you bastard, you did it again.
05:19:13.000 He can talk a good game.
05:19:15.000 But, over the next couple months, you know, it's really... This is where the rubber meets the road.
05:19:26.000 So...
05:19:28.000 You know, good performance.
05:19:30.000 He did a good job.
05:19:32.000 I just can't stand Kamala and all this nonsense.
05:19:35.000 And like I said, I think it was good.
05:19:38.000 We're gonna need to see a little bit more.
05:19:39.000 You know, it was good.
05:19:41.000 But now let's see, now let's do something.
05:19:43.000 Yeah, good talk, good talk, good rhetoric, good energy, but let's do something about it.
05:19:47.000 I think he won the debate.
05:19:48.000 A lot of funny, good moments, viral moments.
05:19:52.000 You know, when I say funny, I mean, look, it's attention-getting, it's outrageous.
05:19:55.000 It's what it should be at the debate.
05:19:57.000 I thought it was a win.
05:19:58.000 And I hope that Trump continues to campaign this way.
05:20:02.000 If he does, I think it'll be better for him.
05:20:04.000 We need a little more there there, though.
05:20:08.000 So that's my take.
05:20:09.000 Fun night, big night for the show.
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05:20:21.000 I think that's a huge accomplishment.
05:20:22.000 Bigger than the Tates, Charlie Kirk, Badlands, you know, a lot of the, you know, whatever.
05:20:27.000 I like the Tates, Charlie Kirk, not so much.
05:20:29.000 But hey, one of the biggest streams on Rumble.
05:20:31.000 I think that's a huge accomplishment.
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05:20:37.000 100,000 subscribers.
05:20:38.000 Finally, it's a big night.
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05:20:43.000 So, it's all good.
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