Learn English with Billie Eichner. Billie eichner is an American comedian, activist, and writer. She has been a member of the Democratic Party for over 30 years and served as a presidential candidate in 2016 and 2018. She is also the wife of former Vice President Joe Biden, who served as the first black woman to serve as a U.S. Vice President.
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00:00:00.000*music* But as soon as people start playing games, I stop.
00:05:11.000And then nowadays, I am so upset that the things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it's all gone down the drain.
00:05:25.000Our country's gone to hell in a handbasket.
00:05:30.000We haven't got the country we had when I was raised.
00:07:09.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
00:07:13.000We're being slowly poisoned and, in some cases, quickly murdered and assassinated.
00:07:20.000And we're killing ourselves every day, inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see.
00:07:27.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
00:07:35.000People have got to start to get courageous.
00:07:38.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
00:07:52.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
00:07:56.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
00:08:00.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
00:08:06.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
00:08:10.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
00:08:40.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden, booming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
00:08:45.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:09:00.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:09:09.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Greupel Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty.
00:09:24.000And of course, defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who threw an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
00:09:42.000Roypers and all the alt-riders that got banned, all the alt-riders that got slandered, even people that killed themselves.
00:09:49.000Our courses paved the way for you now to walk over.
00:09:54.000And you can't give us acknowledgement.
00:10:09.000In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
00:10:15.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
00:11:38.000Go to a nice suburb where the lawns are nicely kept.
00:11:42.000Where the mailman walks around and delivers the mail.
00:11:46.000Where people are walking their dogs and little kids are ice skating in the park.
00:11:52.000And people are driving around and they're driving clean cars and the houses are maintained and kept up and you go down to the bakery and you get a...
00:12:19.000we can't even get into the transportation.
00:12:21.000Maybe somewhere you go to a train station and people politely wait for people to leave before they enter.
00:12:27.000You go to an elevator and people wait for the people leaving the elevator before they get in.
00:13:04.000That's going to be, if I have kids, the generation of my grandchildren.
00:13:09.000They're going to be living in South Africa.
00:13:12.000Graffiti, violence, litter, weeds everywhere, dust and dirt and filth, and open sewage, and the water's poisonous, and the air is poisonous, and the government's unstable, and the entertainment is slop and trash.
00:13:51.000And many people are just trying to enjoy the last hurrah before it's all over.
00:13:57.000People are living lives of hedonism, taking advantage while they can.
00:14:02.000Or they're living more responsible lives, but similarly, just trying to soak it in while they still can.
00:14:09.000And ignoring, living in a sort of self-imposed naivete or delusion about what's going on just outside the city gates, outside of the gated community, on the other side of the tracks, downtown, wherever.
00:19:05.000Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us and nothing will.
00:21:28.000They said they didn't win, they just took it back, guys.
00:21:31.000You got no pain, I got no pain, you can't even fuck with us, I. You got a tray, I got no pain, you can't even fuck with us, I. This one hit us, they fucking with the world, boy.
00:30:18.000Today, each of you begins a new chapter as well.
00:30:22.000When your story goes from here, it will be defined.
00:30:27.000By your vision, your perseverance, and your grit, you will build a future where we have the courage to chase our dreams no matter what the cynics and the doubters have to say.
00:30:41.000You will have the confidence to speak the hopes in your hearts and to express the love that stirs your souls.
00:30:51.000As long as you have pride in your beliefs.
00:30:55.000Courage in your convictions and faith in God, then you will not fail.
00:31:03.000As long as America remains true to its values, loyal to its citizens, and devoted to its creator, then our best days are yet to come.
00:34:55.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden looming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
00:35:00.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:35:14.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:35:24.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Griper Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and, of course, defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who, through an increasing amount of activism, are really going to ensure the future and the success of that.
00:35:55.000Alexander the Great, Donald Trump, we're all cut from the same cloth, and that cloth is very, very large.
00:40:28.000I mean, only, only a class of people so rootless in their condition would view America in such a way as merely a vessel for abstractions, right?
00:40:40.000We're going to smash your brain and win the Bible, idiot.
00:40:54.000And I'm addicted to the serotonin rush.
00:48:23.000In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
00:48:29.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
00:51:21.000You know, against all the hate, against all odds, against all the snipes and the jabs and the feds and the journalists and the doubters and the traitors and the deceivers.
00:55:55.000My voice is nothing but I scream and I'm fired.
00:56:02.000I stretch my hair but my coat just goes up.
00:56:08.000Lawrence, I found something really interesting.
00:56:35.000In 2016, Donald Trump vowed that the United States would buy and, more importantly, hire American.
00:56:43.000But in June of 2024, during the All In podcast hosted by his donor, David Sachs, he committed that he would not only expand work visas, but he would staple green cards to them.
00:57:00.000And I will not encourage my followers to turn out in November to vote for this or campaign for this.
00:57:08.000It is not an unreasonable demand to say that we will not vote for a candidate that promises to import more legal immigrants.
00:57:18.000And it is not unreasonable because for the first time in 20 years, it is the majority opinion that there are too many legal immigrants coming into the country.
00:59:56.000I should have supported Grape of War 2. Grape of War 2. I'm raising this.
01:00:14.000I'm back up, I'm back up On them, on them diamonds, 30 city diamonds Girl, you see this jet, you know I'm different climbers Yeah, I got this damn, thought it kind of trying Wish it in their family, wish it in their memories, yeah Hold it up, where you at the club?
01:00:35.000On them, yeah, pull up by side, yeah, pull up on them Now I got this bag with hats on them I'm straight out of these diamonds, I'm straight out of these lights Yeah, yeah, how you gon'save these bills?
01:00:49.000Yeah, turn up at my show, at least just do it right Yeah, yeah, we go out all night You gon'save me big, gon'save me big, gon'serve up all night You gon'save my drink, you gon'save my cup, you gon'save me all right They had the feeling that they had the problems They making each
01:01:04.000other, the blacks, I'm tweaking We had the bills, they put my side, you out of your mind, you crazy tweaking That's what I'm out of my lane, bad in my mind, I'm really right out of my thinking Know that you lovin'this light, you lovin'this world We runnin'it back every weekend You ain't in love with me every time I know You're a split All y'all drunk inside this
01:01:20.000light, that world Y'all get to run the bag up every weekend Now you see I'm gone off on the tape, man You say that I'm bad, so I'm lazy I wanna be a dictator And you know why I want to be a dictator?
01:01:53.000I want a wall And I wanna drill, drill, drill Power!
01:01:57.000My love has got no money, he's got his strong beliefs My love has got no power, he's got his strong beliefs My love has got no
01:02:15.000fame, he's got his strong beliefs My love has got no money, he's got his strong beliefs One more and more People just want more and more Freedom and love What he's looking for One more and more People just want more and more Freedom and love What he's looking for Feed from desire My insenses purify Feed from desire My insenses
01:02:44.000purify Feed from desire My insenses purify Feed from desire Na na na na na na na na There is something involved where we have to forgive them.
01:02:58.000We do have to forgive them for their ignorance.
01:03:01.000We do have to forgive them for their misunderstanding.
01:03:04.000And we have to embrace them and say Better late than never.
01:08:58.000And people don't realize what they have.
01:09:04.000And then nowadays, I am so upset that the things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it's all gone down the drain.
01:09:18.000Our country's gone to hell in a handbasket.
01:09:23.000We haven't got the country we had when I was raised.
01:11:02.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
01:11:06.000We're being slowly poisoned and, in some cases, quickly murdered and assassinated.
01:11:13.000And we're killing ourselves every day, inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see.
01:11:20.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
01:11:28.000People have got to start to get courageous.
01:11:31.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
01:11:45.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
01:11:49.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
01:11:53.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
01:11:59.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
01:12:03.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
01:12:32.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden looming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
01:12:38.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
01:12:53.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
01:13:02.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Gripen Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and of course defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who
01:14:01.000In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
01:14:08.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
01:15:31.000Go to a nice suburb where the lawns are nicely kept, where the mailman walks around and delivers the mail, where people are walking their dogs and little kids are Ice skating in the park.
01:17:43.000And many people are just trying to enjoy the last hurrah before it's all over.
01:17:50.000People are living lives of hedonism, taking advantage while they can.
01:17:55.000Or they're living more responsible lives, but similarly, just trying to soak it in while they still can.
01:18:02.000And ignoring, living in a sort of self-imposed naivete or delusion about what's going on just outside the city gates, outside of the gated community, on the other side of the tracks, downtown, wherever.
01:22:58.000Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us.
01:24:59.000Tell me that, how the teddy on my chest, name me, take me, I'm going to slide those in the VIP We got one of them, I got the butterflies I cut them over, not these legs, they ain't a fucking lie We should know this kid ain't saying, you can't fucking die I said, put them in the belly, I'm so I got you I'm a fire, I'm all inside the belly, I'm so I got you We got no pain, I got no pain, you can't even fight with a tie We got no
01:25:28.000pain, you can't even fight with a tie It's a hater, they fucking with the wrong one America first is inevitable, it's unstoppable And the reason why is because it's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's
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01:26:28.000not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to share a big business It's not cool to
01:26:58.000share a big business This is a Christian nation This is a miracle This is a Christian nation This is a
01:30:50.000Years from now, some of them may look back and ask themselves whether they've made the right choice, whether they've made the most of the opportunities they've been given.
01:38:48.000My narrative is not one of some sudden, booming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
01:38:52.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
01:39:07.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
01:39:17.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Greupel Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and, of course, defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who, through an increasing amount of activism, are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
01:39:47.000Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump, were all cut from the same cloth, and that cloth is very, very large.
01:44:15.000you know they they see america merely as a vessel i mean only only a class of people so rootless
01:44:27.000you america in such a way is merely a vessel for abstractions right we're gonna smash your brain and read the bible idiot and i'm addicted to the serotonin rush where's enough enough baby where's enough enough man i see just eat a big mac
01:44:57.000you stupid you you you you you you you you you you you you you
01:45:27.000you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you
01:45:57.000you you you you you you you you you you I feel like the nigga
01:46:27.000on Casino, where they got the son in for the casino.
01:46:31.000And I'm addicted to Sarah Taylor Rush.
01:46:34.000I feel like the nigga on Casino, where they got the son in for the casino.
01:48:06.000Like riding on a white bike, feeling like a tight bike, pressing on the gas, feeling over for the night, like dreaming at my dad and he told me it ain't Christ-like.
01:48:14.000But nobody never tell you who you're being like Christ.
01:48:16.000Only if I see it in you, always when they keep me, like a Tyler Perry made a movie, you're in deep, searching for a deed.
01:48:23.000Now you want to see it free, now you want to see it free, like to see it free of peace.
01:48:27.000Tell me what your life like, turn it down to Christ-like.
01:48:29.000Just driving with my dad and he told me it ain't Christ-like.
01:48:32.000I'm just trying to find out if I look for a new way.
01:48:34.000I'm just really trying not to rig through the poolway.
01:52:15.000In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
01:52:22.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
01:53:43.000It's not right Getting on the air, you know what I'm about, you know, you know my story Real real I just laid all on the field there I I'm a real human.
01:55:14.000You know, against all the hate, against all odds, against all the snipes, and the jabs, and the feds, and the journalists, and the doubters, and the traitors, and the deceivers, the human beings got to rise up!
01:55:26.000And we got to do what must be done no matter what.
01:55:30.000With the power of God, with the will of God guiding us, God paving a path, we've got to rise up.
02:05:07.000I've been following Cookie King on TikTok ever since he was doing those POV videos where he's got the controller and he's, like, talking to his friends in voice chat on Discord.
02:12:58.000Okay, well, hey, if they're apologizing, if they're ready to hop off and stop relentlessly attacking me all the time, if they're ready to stop hunting me down and trying to get me killed, yeah, I guess me and Cookie King can be cool.
02:21:28.000And even though I agree with what was said, and I think it was a phenomenal interview and really a game changer in the battle of ideas, at the same time, let's recognize this was a setup.
02:21:49.000I watched about half of it, I think, yesterday, but I wasn't giving it my full attention.
02:21:53.000So we're going to be watching it with some fresh eyes a little bit here, and I'll give you my live response, and we'll break it down piece by piece.
02:22:52.000Is America better off with a country that has a leader who hates us and wants to kill us, or to have a country with a leader who likes us and wants to be friends with us?
02:23:03.000Well, definitely the latter is better.
02:24:06.000And you know that because when he has a guest on that he agrees with, it is endlessly deferential, tripping over himself to be obsequious and deferential and to agree with the guest.
02:24:21.000Even if the guest is stupid, even if the guest is saying something that doesn't make sense or about aliens or aliens or demons, no matter how ridiculous they could be talking about deep underground military bases, aliens, all this kind of stuff, Tucker will be endlessly agreeable.
02:25:58.000Trump, in his first term, pursued a maximum pressure campaign against Maduro and tried to overthrow Maduro, put in place crushing sanctions and secondary sanctions on oil.
02:26:08.000They tried to prop up this Juan Guaido character who was supposed to win the election.
02:26:14.000And so it's safe to assume that probably that was accompanied by some backdoor regime change assassination plot.
02:26:21.000That's not public, as far as I'm aware.
02:26:26.000So, Tucker so confidently, yeah, we are, and I think you know that.
02:26:30.000It's like, okay, so how do you know that?
02:26:32.000Maybe it has to do with how Tucker meets with Javier Millet in Argentina, who's another big target of the CIA.
02:26:40.000Maybe it has to do with the fact that for the past year, Tucker was traveling Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, trying to avert a war with Iran, meeting with their heads of state.
02:26:50.000Maybe it has to do with all his other foreign trips, visiting all these other foreign leaders like Viktor Orban in Hungary and the Vox Party in Spain and many others, the president in El Salvador.
02:27:03.000So I find that to be, you know, that's yet again another tell.
02:27:07.000That government, and it's still there.
02:27:22.000And the big picture in South America, I know this is a bit of a digression, but it is relevant.
02:27:29.000The CIA and the DOD, the Defense Department, are all over South America because in the past 10 years, China has become the number one trading partner of virtually every country in South America and increasingly in Central America too.
02:27:48.000But here we are in the early 2020s, mid-2020s, and China has now replaced the United States as the number one trading partner of almost every country in Latin America.
02:27:59.000That's a big reason why Obama tried to pass the TTP and the TTIP and that constellation of free trade agreements, multilateral free trade agreements.
02:28:11.000It concerned not only the Pacific countries out in Asia, but also the countries aboard the Pacific Ocean in Latin America.
02:28:18.000And that was in anticipation of this trend.
02:28:21.000So the new doctrine from Southcom, from the CIA is we're trying to overthrow all these left-wing governments that are friendly with China and replace them with right-wing governments that are friendly with the United States, like in El Salvador, like in Peru, like in Argentina.
02:28:37.000And so, for example… And that interview was promoted all over Twitter.
02:28:52.000It got, I think, like a billion views or 500 million views.
02:29:35.000It's sort of like Tucker Carlson is sort of like Mothman.
02:29:38.000You know how people spot Mothman before a bridge collapses or there's some kind of mass casualty incident?
02:29:45.000It's like everywhere that the CIA director goes, Tucker Carlson is never far behind.
02:29:51.000Everywhere the CIA director goes, everywhere the Secretary of State goes, Tucker Carlson is not far behind conducting diplomacy on behalf of the United States or some other country.
02:30:02.000So I just think that's interesting that he threw that in there.
02:30:05.000He sort of, you know, what does he know about Venezuela?
02:30:07.000Why don't you tell us more about that?
02:30:09.000You know, 1959, we've been working on that.
02:31:12.000They're on the other side of the planet.
02:31:14.000I just always find that ridiculous, even if you're a normie.
02:31:17.000Forget about, you don't need to be an expert, you don't even need to really know all the facts, but whenever you hear this argument, we need to overthrow the Iranian government, it's always like, but they hate America.
02:31:38.000But the reason I think it's important to get a little more detailed about how that might happen is because there's military action in progress which we're supporting.
02:31:47.000And the president has said, clearly, including last night, that he is focused on eliminating the capacity of the Iranian government to produce nuclear weapons.
02:31:54.000You are saying we need to use military force to effect regime change.
02:32:40.000Look, you have been heroic on And in Texas, I see it and live it every day.
02:32:55.000In COVID, in fact, you may recall, in the middle of the COVID lockdown, I was out walking my dog when the whole world was shut down and we were living in lunatic times.
02:33:06.000And I called you and said, Tucker, Like, I watch them like an injection of crack.
02:33:14.000Okay, I'm mixing my metaphor because you don't inject crack.
02:33:18.000No, I mean, it was, you were standing up and speaking like, what the hell are we doing in a way that we desperately, desperately needed?
02:33:27.000And so whether it's securing the border, whether it's the insanity of COVID lockdowns and the vaccine mandates, whether it is the Second Amendment or the First Amendment.
02:34:30.000I don't know who set up that binary, but there are lots of choices, actually.
02:34:34.000People sort of naturally fall into, I think they want to classify people, and they're like, okay, you're one or the other, and you've got to be all or nothing.
02:34:41.000And the interventionists, it seems, have never seen a country they didn't want to invade, and that doesn't make any sense to me.
02:34:47.000And the isolationists, I think, don't take the threats to America seriously, and I think that's naive, and it doesn't work.
02:34:55.000And so my view, I consider myself a third point on the triangle.
02:34:59.000And what I describe that as is that I am a non-interventionist hawk, which sounds a little weird, but what do I mean by that?
02:35:09.000I mean the central touchpoint for U.S. foreign policy and for any question of military intervention.
02:35:16.000Don't you understand this is all just rhetoric?
02:36:07.000They create this false binary, like Tucker said, so that they can position themselves as the reasonable middle.
02:36:13.000And say, well, you know, some people want to invade every country and some people don't want to have any contact with any country.
02:36:20.000I'm sort of in the middle of nothing and everything.
02:36:23.000It's like, okay, well, everybody is in the middle.
02:36:25.000Everybody is in some sense in the middle.
02:36:28.000I don't think anybody's advocating for complete diplomatic and foreign isolation.
02:36:33.000I don't think anybody's realistically advocating, except for some, for total engagement kinetically with all of our enemies.
02:36:42.000And then, and this is something that you see a lot of Republicans do, pay attention to how they're always massaging.
02:36:50.000Republicans understand that the base has no appetite for any foreign entanglements.
02:36:55.000The Republican base, and I think the American public at large, does not want to be in a proxy war with Russia, does not want to be fighting Israel's war in the Middle East.
02:37:04.000We don't want to fight a war with China.
02:37:05.000We don't want to fight even wars against Venezuela or some of the, uh, So politicians understand that they have to placate that new constituency, which is fatigued by decades of war in the Middle East.
02:37:22.000And now because the economy is struggling because of other domestic issues have no appetite for any kind of great power competition with Russia or China that involves a proxy war, anything like that.
02:37:52.000And you see this even a lot on the so-called dissident right.
02:37:57.000When Trump bombed Syria in 2017 and 2018, when he killed Qasem Soleimani in 2020, They will say things like, well, that's not neoconservatism technically because it's not nation building.
02:40:08.000And actually, another way of conceiving what I'm saying, I'm speaking theoretically.
02:40:13.000But Reagan referred to it as peace through strength.
02:40:16.000And actually, I think Donald Trump's foreign policy is very much what I'm describing, a non-interventionist hawk, where he understands, and I think this is historically true, the best way to avoid war is being strong.
02:40:33.000That weakness and isolationism, I think, encourages war.
02:40:45.000I don't think I disagree with anything you've said, so we may not be that far apart, really, because you said that the single criterion for making decisions about America's foreign policy is America's national interest.
02:43:55.000Look, Syria's a mess, so I've consistently opposed Now we have a religious extremist, Islamic religious extremist, who's overseen the purge of Christians and Alawites.
02:44:27.000When Netanyahu was in D.C. a couple of months ago, he and I sat down.
02:44:32.000By the way, Israel 100% is responsible for Assad going.
02:44:36.000And I don't know why nobody talks about that, but Assad was overthrown in a matter of one or two weeks in December of last year.
02:44:44.000And that was followed up by years of Israel bombing Damascus and regime forces in Syria, which only escalated throughout 2024 after the war in Gaza, after October 7th and the war in Gaza began.
02:44:59.000So that, I mean, that's absolutely the case, that Israel had a hand in that.
02:45:02.000And so did Turkey, because the group that took over Syria was up there in the north of Syria with Turkey and probably a...
02:45:19.000He made an interesting point that I've not heard anywhere else, in that he said he believes what toppled Assad was when Israel took out Nasrallah.
02:45:30.000Nasrallah was the head of Hezbollah, and they took him out.
02:45:58.000So you don't think that, and I don't, it is very confusing, and I don't know that anyone really knows all the details, but you don't think that Israel or Turkey or NATO ally Turkey played any role in toppling Assad?
02:47:06.000And the reason that matters, obviously, is that there are Muslim groups that kill Americans or have killed Americans, terrorist groups and terrorist cells in some certain countries, and almost all of them are so-called allies.
02:47:21.000ISIS and Al-Qaeda, those are the groups that are supporting lone wolf terrorism or have in the past, and they're backed by Saudi Arabia and Israel.
02:48:03.000That come from Saudi clerics, Wahhabist Saudi clerics.
02:48:08.000They're the ones, to the extent that this is real, that are carrying out terror attacks, mass casualty attacks in Europe and the United States.
02:48:16.000And Israel is involved with those groups as well.
02:48:18.000Israel, the CIA in Saudi Arabia, to some extent Turkey.
02:48:36.000I mean, if or when Hezbollah launches missiles at the U.S. mainland, then you have an argument.
02:48:42.000If and when Hezbollah, a non-state actor, gets an intercontinental ballistic missile and starts launching them at New York, then I'll take it seriously.
02:48:51.000But until then, it's just totally ridiculous.
02:49:27.000I think the Iraq War was a serious mistake.
02:49:29.000And we have a pattern, and going back to this binary of the interventionists and the isolationists, the interventionists advocate over and over again.
02:52:35.000He made the judgment that the risk exceeded the benefits.
02:52:38.000And that's a very rational decision to make.
02:52:42.000And it's reflected Trump has made those same decisions where he is willing to use military force, but he very much asks, OK, is this good or bad for America?
02:52:53.000Does this endanger U.S. servicemen and women or not?
02:52:57.000And one of the points about the Cold War, look, nobody in their right mind wanted to Firing bullets at each other is really unhealthy for human beings.
02:56:07.000It was shining truth and light that tore it down.
02:56:11.000It was also rebuilding the American military.
02:56:14.000It was what was then pejoratively called Star Wars, where the Soviet Union, their economy couldn't match our military buildup, and it bankrupted that.
02:56:21.000That's an example of peace through strength.
02:56:23.000I wonder, I mean, is there anybody who was alive in 1989 who wouldn't trade that America for the one we live in now?
02:56:28.000There's not one person, I don't think.
02:56:45.000Why didn't the United States kind of declare victory and make some sort of arrangement with Russia that allowed mutual prosperity rather than continuing a Cold War?
02:56:53.000And second, I wonder why the United States didn't get a lot better.
02:56:56.000Like, why don't we have better infrastructure?
02:56:59.000Like, if we won, why does our country look like this?
02:57:01.000I walked across from Union Station this morning, as you do, I'm sure, every day, and all those people lying in the street and sleeping outside.
02:57:06.000We're sorry to say it, but this is not a very safe country.
02:57:08.000Walk through Oakland or Philadelphia How many ads are in this thing?
02:57:19.000Look, there's no doubt there are really dangerous forces in our society.
02:57:24.000Some of it is politics and some of it is culture.
02:57:25.000And one of the mistakes people make in politics is thinking everything is politics.
02:57:29.000So the political answer, which I happen to believe, is we went much further down the road of liberalism.
02:57:33.000You look at Bill Clinton, who inherited the peace dividend of the Cold War being over and moved us more to the left, and then Obama accelerated it a lot.
02:57:40.000So there are lots of bad economic policies, but I also think they're cultural things.
02:57:48.000Why has American quality of life not surged after we won the Cold War and defeated our major adversary in the 20th century?
02:57:57.000Well, Bill Clinton was liberal and then Obama was liberal.
02:58:00.000It's like, I think you're kind of missing a little part in the middle there.
02:58:03.000What happened between Bill Clinton and Obama that might have, I don't know, taken our focus off of America?
02:58:10.000Why is American infrastructure crumbling?
02:58:28.000You know, the global war on terror, the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, that had nothing to do with it, the recession.
02:58:37.000I know what you're going to say, and I agree 100%.
02:58:38.000I bet there's not one word that I would disagree with.
02:58:40.000All I'm saying is, I think it's important to step back and ask.
02:58:43.000But I actually think Russia has very little to do with it.
02:58:44.000Well, that's kind of the point that I'm trying to make, which is, like, we're all sort of focused on beating our adversaries abroad, but what is victory worth if our own country becomes what it is now?
02:58:52.000And maybe we're spending a little too much time focused abroad, and not enough time focused on the people sleeping outside Union Station.
02:58:57.000So, look, I absolutely think we need to focus at home, emphatically, and we need to focus on prosperity, we need to focus on reducing the debt, reducing spending, empowering people, low taxes, small businesses.
02:59:08.000American free enterprise, it's the most powerful force for fighting poverty the world has ever seen.
02:59:47.000I'd vote for it, but it is a question of mass.
02:59:49.000Okay, but I'm just saying, like, why, how can people ignore...
02:59:57.000And there's a sense in which the Congress is neglecting the country that elected them in favor of this relentless focus on other people's problems.
03:00:04.000That's the way it feels as an American.
03:00:06.000Look, there are lots of problems in America that we need to fix.
03:00:11.000Because you have a mayor and a Democrat city council that won't let police officers arrest bad guys.
03:00:15.000And in every city you see across the country, whether it's New York, whether it's Chicago, whether it's L.A., whether it's San Francisco, if you have Democrats, we see the L.A. riots where they won't let people be arrested.
03:00:24.000Then why not work in regime change here?
03:00:52.000My in-laws are Californians, and they're wonderful people.
03:00:54.000Heidi grew up on the central coast of California.
03:00:56.000And I remember I was texting with my mother-in-law, and I think I sent her a video of criminals going into a store and just looting in California.
03:01:04.000And her response, she said something like, well, this is really terrible.
03:03:45.000And trade is inextricably connected to a foreign policy.
03:03:50.000You know, I mean, look at what happened during COVID.
03:03:52.000The reason that we have inflation, part of the reason why we have inflation, is because of the supply chain disruptions that happened in 2020.
03:04:00.000It's because of all those cargo ships that were backed up in the port of Los Angeles.
03:04:05.000You know, and you have the situation now where we're competing with China, we're fighting a trade war now with tariffs.
03:04:12.000So I actually disagree with this idea that there's a necessary tension between domestic and foreign policy.
03:04:20.000They should be harmonized, and we should have a foreign policy.
03:05:27.000When they passed the first relief bill, the first or second stimulus bill back in 2020, April or May 2020, everybody got a check for $1,200.
03:06:15.000You know, so people talk about homelessness and health care and retirees and child care and education.
03:06:22.000You know, it's not because, and I've said this for a long time, I am America first, I do oppose spending the money, but the idea that that is why we're broke, it simply isn't the case.
03:06:36.000Now, when you factor in the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, when you take all of it together, then you get to $10 trillion over 20 years, and it's a little bit of a bigger pie, but there are structural problems.
03:06:51.000Why the country is going bankrupt, and it really has a lot more to do with entitlements.
03:06:56.000You can't have a warfare state and a welfare state, and you certainly should not have a warfare state when you don't need to be fighting wars.
03:07:04.000We have a very decadent and exorbitant welfare state alongside a pretty substantial warfare state, but there's not even really a good reason.
03:08:18.000He could be dead within five years if that kid doesn't get an education.
03:08:21.000And the Democrats were more than happy to say we don't care.
03:08:23.000I mean, and by the way, one other thing.
03:08:25.000Probably the biggest reason why the country's bankrupt is because of trade.
03:08:30.000It's because of really trade more than anything.
03:08:34.000The reason why life expectancy is arguably going down, the reason you have deaths of despair, the reason you have homelessness, the reason why fentanyl is so attractive is because all of the small towns and cities in America are being destroyed by free trade.
03:08:52.000Because all of the workshops and manufacturing, all of the industry that supported these economies of small towns and cities Was destroyed by free trade.
03:09:06.000It was Chinese with their tiny little hands in little sweatshops in Indonesia and Vietnam with slave wages.
03:09:15.000They were out competing, the industry in the United States.
03:09:19.000And when all the factories left, Gary, Indiana, Detroit, Michigan, South Bend, Indiana, when they left...
03:10:20.000The reason why we have shitty public transportation and traffic and crime is because the mayors and public prosecutors don't want to arrest black people.
03:10:29.000But if you clean that up, these cities would look a lot more like Europe or more like Dubai and the Gulf states than they do right now.
03:10:38.000What is driving the despair in America is everywhere else.
03:10:42.000It is the American heartland that's being hollowed out.
03:11:29.000But can you see, I mean, again, once again, I couldn't agree with you more, but can you feel the frustration of people, including your voters, every American, at the emphasis on foreign countries and the threat we supposedly face, which is fake, obviously.
03:11:44.000Over the kind of slowly unfolding tragedy of what's happening to our country, the dollars spent, the aid packages to Ukraine to pay the retirement of civil servants in a country that we have nothing to do with, the endless support for Israel, very expensive.
03:11:59.000When people are literally buying groceries on credit in the United States, can you feel like nothing gets to Ukraine or Israel?
03:12:49.000Well, before we can make independent judgments about whether or not that's true, and I'm certainly open to it, I think we need to know what it costs.
03:12:55.000So what's the annual cost of defending Israel?
03:12:59.000But I mean, the cost of the weapons, for example.
03:13:02.000The cost of U.S. personnel there, the cost of moving ships to the region, which we're doing right now, the cost of moving tankers, all of that.
03:13:09.000So, look, the last week, I don't know, and there's some lag when the administration on the Constitution, the commander-in-chief, has control of the armed forces, and so President Trump has made some decisions that will know the cost over time, but I don't know the last week.
03:13:30.000The Trump administration fast-tracked $12 billion earlier this year.
03:13:34.000The MOU, which was in 2016, is $3.8 per year.
03:13:38.000But last year we had a foreign aid package for Israel in, I think, April.
03:13:42.000And it was something like $25 billion.
03:13:45.000And then $12 billion, there was a supplemental amount of money.
03:13:48.000And then I think they sent over some that had been approved from the previous year in the early months of the Trump administration.
03:13:54.000So since October 7th, it's obviously gone up significantly for this.
03:13:59.000Uh, For this conflict in particular, but also you can tack on year over year the cost of the Iron Dome because we have the $3.8 billion from the MOU and you have the cost of the Iron Dome on top of that and you have the cost of every other conflict that we're involved in with Israel, whether it's October 7th, whether it's deploying assets to protect them against Hezbollah, against Iran, whatever, and that doesn't have a fixed number necessarily, so that's just totally dishonest.
03:15:09.000Over the history of the state of Israel since 1948, it's cumulatively, it's something like $250 billion.
03:15:17.000When you add the cost of the Iraq war, the global war on terror, which Israel had a lot to do with, it rises to many trillions.
03:15:25.000When you adjust it for inflation, when you account for interest over time, it would be many trillions of dollars, like $15 or $20 trillion or something like that.
03:15:35.000But that's really taking everything into account over 70 or 80 years.
03:15:41.000But it's not – the problem is not the cost.
03:15:43.000The problem is what it is doing strategically to us and how it is representative of their influence because I agree.
03:15:51.000And I've never said, oh, 3.8 is such a big deal.
03:15:53.000They receive the most out of any country.
03:15:56.000They have received the most out of any country since 1978.
03:16:00.000And that just reflects their influence.
03:16:02.000the number one, two, and three countries, Israel, Egypt, and Jordan, all of that facilitates Israel's national interest.
03:16:13.000And the reason that we have that arrangement is, So for me, it was never about the cost by itself.
03:16:20.000It's about what does that say about our Congress?
03:16:22.000That every politician, it's a 99 to 1 vote in the Senate.
03:16:26.000It's a unanimous vote in the House every year.
03:17:00.000You just said that's nothing but $3.8 trillion.
03:17:02.000Well, once again, that's just a foreign aid.
03:17:05.000When you talk about these strategic commitments to Israel, like the war in Iraq, which was done at their behest.
03:17:11.000Intelligence fabricated by the Office of Special Plans from Jewish neocons, Netanyahu's advocacy, their neocons in the press at the Weekly Standard, AEI, and the rest of it, Wall Street Journal, pushing us into the war.
03:17:36.000And so if we tried to recreate, if we're just trying to defend America, we tried to recreate the national security benefits of our alliance with Israel, it would cost, I don't know, $30 billion, $300 billion.
03:19:59.000And by the way, Israel conducts one of the most aggressive spying operations on our soil out of any country.
03:20:06.000It is Russia and China in the number one and number two position, probably China's number one at this point, followed by Israel.
03:20:15.000So our two greatest adversaries, two great powers, two nuclear-armed great power adversaries, they're the number one and number two most aggressive spying operations on U.S. soil.
03:20:28.000Number three is our closest ally, Israel.
03:20:31.000So it's not like they're just doing their due diligence.
03:20:35.000It's not like they're just hanging out.
03:22:08.000And before people will even answer you, these mainstream Republican types like Ted Cruz, they'll turn it around and say, why are you obsessed with Israel?
03:22:17.000And by the way, there's an insinuation inside that question, which is, You're obsessed with Israel because you hate Jews.
03:22:26.000That's what they're, that's always how they turn it.
03:22:29.000And it is on its face a contradiction.
03:27:25.000Being a Nazi is the worst thing you can be because Adolf Hitler, who was the founder of the Nazi Party, perpetrated the Holocaust, which is the most unique.
03:27:38.000Worst genocide in the history of mankind.
03:27:51.000And I said, isn't this kind of like, do you understand how, you know, there's all the difference in the world between people that can critically think and ask questions and answer them and people that can't?
03:28:08.000Sincerely, has anyone ever thought about it?
03:28:10.000They call you a Nazi, and the reason why Nazi looms large, the reason it casts a shadow over everything, as opposed to being called a communist or being called a fascist even or something else, is because Hitler perpetrated allegedly, again, this is all nominal, allegedly Hitler perpetrated the most unique genocide.
03:28:29.000He didn't kill the most people, but what made it particularly heinous, according to the narrative, Is that it was systematic and industrial.
03:28:38.000And that it was intended to kill the Jews of all people.
03:29:32.000This is sort of like if you say that black people should graduate high school and not have kids out of wedlock, you could call the racist.
03:29:41.000And conservatives criticize the left for doing that.
03:29:44.000I said, so isn't that another hypocrisy?
03:29:47.000Isn't that sort of like a layered double standard?
03:29:50.000America first for every country, but not Israel.
03:29:53.000Free marketplace of ideas, but not for Israel.
03:29:57.000And if you talk about it, they call you a Nazi.
03:29:59.000Isn't that the same suppression tactic of the left?
03:30:02.000And then I thought, you know, maybe there's something more to the story here.
03:30:11.000Because they also call you a Nazi if you're pro-white.
03:30:16.000The other reason they call you a Nazi is if you like white people too much, if you like blonde hair, blue eyed, if you have this like fetish for racial purity, if you want to have white children, if you want America to be a white country, if you think that white people are special, they say you're a white.
03:30:35.000So it's also it's white supremacy and it's being against Jewish people.
03:30:40.000But I started to think, wait a second, you know, I'm not in favor of a Holocaust.
03:30:45.000At the same time, Jewish people do seem to have a lot of power, and white people do seem to be special.
03:30:51.000And then I thought, maybe they're calling us Nazis to steer us away from the truth.
03:35:36.000I'm not playing the world's smallest violin, but this is the human cost.
03:35:40.000This is the human toll of this ridiculous situation.
03:35:45.000You know, because they called me a Nazi and because I was branded that in the Chicago Tribune and in Media Matters and by these publications.
03:35:57.000My best friends I went to high school with, they saw that and said, we don't want to talk to this guy anymore.
03:36:04.000And at college, people were talking about beating me up on campus and saying, if I see that kid with his MAGA hat, I'm going to knock him out and all this kind of stuff.
03:36:14.000I couldn't get jobs places because of the reputational destruction.
03:36:19.000And people said, he's a Nazi piece of shit.
03:36:22.000No one wanted to work with me for years.
03:36:35.000And now here we are, nearly a decade later, the better part of a decade later, and Tucker asks the sitting U.S. Senator from Texas, what is the Israel lobby lobby for?
03:38:08.000They did it to Mel Gibson, Michael Jackson, the artist formerly known as Kanye West.
03:38:15.000They have done this to people for a hundred years, Father Charles Coughlin.
03:38:20.000For a hundred years, these people have destroyed the reputations of good Americans, Christians, because they dared to ask the same question based on a lie.
03:38:38.000And finally, we're at a point where a high-ranking official is confronted by a high-ranking journalist and they just say, hey, what is the Israel lobby lobby for?
03:39:24.000And once people start to look at this kind of stuff, These narratives about the Holocaust and anti-Semitism and Nazis and Israel's our closest ally.
03:39:36.000Once people start to hear that shit and roll their eyes and say, yeah, right.
03:39:41.000Once people start to see this stuff about anti-Semitism's at an all-time high and people go, oh, really?
03:39:55.000Once people start to see the contradictions.
03:39:58.000And the lies, the hollowness at the center of it, hopefully there's going to be reverberations as people wake up and realize it's all fake.
03:40:08.000Hopefully it has political consequences.
03:40:11.000By the way, that's why Israel's making their play now.
03:47:37.000Why is Israel so effective at spying on the United States?
03:47:41.000Why is Israel so effective at lobbying in the United States?
03:47:45.000It's because unlike every other country, Israel has powerful members of its nation, the Jewish nation, living in the United States, having lived here for generations.
03:47:57.000And they may have been born here and grown up here and have citizenship here, but they are loyal to Israel.
03:48:06.000And they sound white, and they change their names to sound like white names.
03:48:11.000But they still retain this tribal loyalty to Israel.
03:48:15.000And that is how Israel is so effective at lobbying our government, spying on our government, because these Jews, they may be born here and grown up here and change their names and all the rest, but when they make it to Washington or New York or L.A., the powerful cities, these loci of powers, of power in elite society, whether it's Entertainment, government, finance.
03:48:55.000AIPAC was born from the American Zionist Council.
03:48:58.000The American Zionist Council was born in Israel.
03:49:01.000And it worked with the early Zionist movement and then the Israeli government.
03:49:05.000Jack Kennedy was going to force the American Zionist Council to register under FARA because it was from a foreign government, funded by a foreign government, lobbying America on behalf of that government.
03:49:17.000JFK was going to say you have to register as a foreign lobby.
03:49:21.000So then the American Zionist Council reorganized and they took their American lobbying activities and they put it under AIPAC.
03:49:29.000And they only had American citizens doing the lobbying.
03:50:57.000Why was the Rothschild banking family so powerful?
03:51:02.000Because of their intelligence network.
03:51:04.000Because one family had descendants in every capital, in Paris, in London, in Brussels, in Berlin, in Rome.
03:51:13.000And they all knew each other because they were stateless.
03:51:16.000You know, an Italian couldn't go to Germany because he's Italian.
03:51:19.000A German couldn't go to France because he's German.
03:51:22.000but a Jew could go anywhere because whether he's in Germany, France, Italy, or London, he's still a Jew.
03:51:26.000So the Rothschild banking family in the 19th century sent their sons to every one of the major European capitals.
03:51:35.000And it was that Because they had the better intel network, because they had a truly transnational network of people because of their statelessness, because they're diasporic, because they're transnational.
03:52:28.000With nuclear bombs and a military, a security apparatus, the ability to tax, the ability to trade, to build infrastructure, that's just their home base.
03:52:38.000But they still maintain those connections everywhere, and that's what gives them an advantage.
03:52:44.000And so it's like playing a team game, but you have people from the other team wearing your jersey.
03:52:53.000You know, if Europe, if Rome and Christendom, if we're playing against Israel in a football game or a soccer game or a baseball game, and we are only playing on our team, we're wearing the red jersey, they're wearing the blue jersey, some of them are wearing our jersey, and they're kicking our players, they're knocking over the water bowl or the water bucket, they're sabotaging our team, they're kicking the ball in our own goal.
03:54:49.000And by the way, I told AIPAC, I said, look, the analogy, if the NRA was supporting a bunch of politicians and cared about the Second Amendment, and you had politicians that vote to confiscate people's guns, and the NRA turned around and raised money for the people who voted to confiscate guns?
03:55:02.000No one would ever care what they said again.
03:55:04.000Sue, you're making the case that AIPAC is not as powerful as people say it is, and I completely agree with you.
03:55:07.000I've watched that, and I'm not making the case that AIPAC is all-powerful and they're running everything and putting fluoride in the water.
03:55:12.000I'm not making the case at all, because it's not true.
03:55:14.000I'm only trying to get to the question of what AIPAC is, and I don't think you're making sense.
03:55:16.000I love that, oh, they're putting fluoride in the water.
03:55:27.000I really don't like when people say, oh, you know, there's some people that blame Jews for everything, like if they slipped on a banana peel.
03:56:07.000He omitted that from all of his journalism and all of his punditry for 25 years, literally until last year.
03:56:16.000He started his journalistic career in the mid-90s, and he's been a journalist ever since.
03:56:23.000On CNN, on MSNBC, on Fox News, in Arkansas, in various places.
03:56:28.000And he has never said anything about Israel until last year.
03:56:33.000And he should know better because, like he said, his relatives, people he's related to, were involved in the CIA, bringing down the Soviet Union, involved in foreign lobbies.
03:57:20.000They were sent out of Israel in the second century after the third Jewish rebellion, and they're in the Jewish diaspora or diaspora.
03:57:27.000In Europe, in the United States, they're not nomadic.
03:57:30.000Many of them stay in one place for a long period of time.
03:57:33.000What makes them diasporic is that they don't have a homeland or didn't have a homeland until 1948 and shortly before that when they started populating Israel.
03:58:21.000But the law is, and a lot of people have been prosecuted under this law, that if you are lobbying on behalf of a foreign government, you must register.
03:58:27.000It's really simple and I don't know why if I'm working from Malaysia or Qatar or Belgium, I have to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and if I don't, I can go to jail.
03:58:40.000People have gone to jail, including people I know.
03:58:42.000So I don't understand why we don't just be honest and say they're lobbying on behalf of foreign government, they're coordinating with the government.
03:59:06.000They'll host a fundraiser in Dallas or Houston or Atlanta or New York or L.A. And they'll do a fundraiser and they'll get someone who'll host it.
03:59:12.000And it's usually a business owner, lawyer, doctor, someone who hosts it.
03:59:15.000And you'll get typically at an APAC fundraiser.
03:59:17.00030, 40, 50, maybe 100 people who live in that city who care about a strong U.S.-Israel relationship.
03:59:23.000And if they have 50 people, each of them writes $1,000 check, and you raise $50,000.
04:01:26.000Well, actually I can speak for myself and tell you what I am saying.
04:01:29.000On behalf, not simply of myself, but on my many Jewish friends who would have the same questions, which is to what extent, and I, I did not.
04:01:38.000And rather than be honorable enough to say it right to my face, you are in a sleazy, feline way implying it or just asking questions about the Jews.
04:01:44.000I'm not asking questions about the Jews.
04:01:48.000It has to do with a foreign government.
04:01:50.000Isn't Israel controlling our foreign policy?
04:03:40.000When AIPAC hosts a fundraiser with 100 doctors, lawyers, businessmen that are going to cut a big check to support Israel in every major city in Dallas and D.C. and New York and L.A., the people that are running our society, they're all like this.
04:04:40.000So, you know, when you think about it, when you watch this interview, there's something amusing about it.
04:04:46.000It's sort of amusing when you see Ted Cruz, who's a Gentile, and you see him get defensive when he's cornered and you see him make these like ridiculous.
04:05:35.000Billionaires, hedge fund managers, asset managers, talent agents, producers, directors, politicians and billionaires, mayors of major cities, governors of major states.
04:07:16.000These are the people running our society.
04:07:18.000Are you beginning to understand our predicament?
04:07:21.000This is who's running the Trump administration.
04:07:23.000This is who is running the Biden administration.
04:07:26.000So, you know, if this sounds insane, if Ted Cruz sounds like an insane maniac, understand that is the disposition of some of the most powerful people in America and in the world, and they will hurt you.
04:10:28.000And, you know, it's sort of funny how on both sides, even though Tucker is really pressing and I appreciate that, he's still a part of the same matrix.
04:11:38.000That me, the guy that is the furthest on the fringe, you know, people would say that I am the most out there critic of Israel and the Jews.
04:11:50.000And yet, I'm the only one that sounds sane on this issue.
04:11:55.000I think that if you sat me down with Ted Cruz or Tucker Carlson or Dave Smith or any of them, I think I would sound the most rational and the most logical and have the most facts.
04:12:07.000And maybe that sounds hard to believe.
04:12:26.000Obviously, both of those things are inherent contradictions.
04:12:28.000And this topic makes fools out of everybody because everybody is – They're afraid of being called anti-Semitic, being canceled, being perceived a particular way, and that speaks to their influence and their power, even over somebody that ostensibly is a critic.
04:12:54.000So anyway, I just find that interesting because I saw this part and I was like, wait a second.
04:13:00.000The Jews have nothing to do with Israel.
04:13:03.000And that's not being nitpicky because, again, I'm not trying to be picky here and say, oh, well, you know, I'm the true Scotsman or something.
04:14:45.000But I just want to get a sense of whether you think, having described yourself as an America first person whose only criterion for judgment on foreign policy is America's national interest, to what extent you're influenced by a foreign government, which gives you a lot of money through its lobby, and you're claiming this has nothing to do with the foreign government.
04:14:57.000They're not courted, and yes, they're spying on us, but it doesn't bother you.
04:15:00.000And I'm sort of wondering, like, what is this?
04:15:01.000This is one of the weirdest conversations I've ever had.
04:15:03.000I'll tell you what, and I'll answer any question you like, but let's try to read it.
04:15:07.000Let's try to ratchet down the temperature a little.
04:16:29.000I want to go back and take the transcript because you just said a minute ago, are you, I'm slightly paraphrasing, but are you lobbying for a foreign government because they pay you a lot of money?
04:17:36.000I don't even like talking about Israel.
04:17:37.000What I care about, I never do, because it's not worth being called anti-Semites from impact recipients.
04:17:43.000But now we are on the verge of joining a war, and...
04:17:50.000All right, so, and let's get into Iran momentarily, but you suggested it was a strange thing that I said a minute ago that when I came into the Senate, I resolved that I was going to be the leading defender of Israel.
04:17:59.000And what you didn't ask is why, so let me tell you why.
04:18:01.000No, you said I was obsessed with Israel, and you had just told me that, like, your driving motive to get to the Senate was to defend Israel.
04:18:06.000I'm like, I don't think I'm the one who's obsessed with Israel!
04:18:13.000I said I resolved to be the leading defender of Israel, and you said your driving motive, the reason you're in the Senate.
04:18:18.000If you want to be the leading defender of Israel, I would think if I ran for Senate, I'd be like, there are people dying of drug odies on the street.
04:18:22.000My driving motive is to fight for Texas and America and to fight for jobs and to fight for the Constitution.
04:18:27.000And you played a very, very careful word game of a lie to you.
04:20:51.000This is another sort of semantic thing.
04:20:53.000And it is helpful to point out that a lot of these dispensationalist Christians, evangelical Zionists— There are committed Christians that are pro-Israel that would know the citation, that would be able to explain it, and so on.
04:21:13.000The reason that I kind of disagree with Tucker here is, isn't it sort of a semantic distinction?
04:21:17.000Because if you are a dispensationalist Christian, whether Israel is the Jewish nation or the modern state of Israel, once again, there's sort of this farce that the two have nothing to do with each other.
04:21:29.000Because what Tucker is sort of implying here when he says, oh, well, Israel is supposed to be the modern state of Israel.
04:21:36.000It's like, well, the modern state of Israel is a Jewish state.
04:21:41.000So if you're a Protestant, for example, and you believe that, you know, if you're not a supersessionist and you believe that the Jews still have this role in the history of Revelation and the history of the church and all this.
04:21:53.000And you believe that we need to bless the Jewish nation.
04:21:56.000Well, Israel is inseparable from the Jewish nation.
04:22:00.000If Israel is the seed of Abraham, if it is a tribe of Judah, which the Jews are the descendants of today, and, you know, they're lost, they didn't follow Jesus, but whether they're in the diaspora or whether they're in the Jewish state of Israel, you know, for them it's sort of a distinction without a difference.
04:22:16.000He's trying to introduce this artificial distinction between Jews and Israel where one doesn't exist.
04:24:26.000And it recognizes that Christ was who he said he was, which was the Messiah for the Jewish people, and then ultimately for all of mankind.
04:24:33.000What has taken place since Is that the Jewish people, the Pharisees, they were the only survivors.
04:24:41.000The Pharisees who rejected Christ, who accused Christ, and who ultimately led to Christ's crucifixion, they were the only group of the Jews that survived after the calamity, which was the destruction of the temple and the Jewish revolts against the Roman Empire that led to them being expelled.
04:25:00.000And the Pharisees then developed their own distinct religion.
04:25:05.000With the Talmud and then later on with the Zohar, with the Kabbalah in the Middle Ages in the 12th and 13th century.
04:25:16.000The Talmud was developed over centuries in the first millennium from the time of the destruction of the temple until the Middle Ages and then was developed by Maimonides and by other Jewish scholars later on.
04:25:29.000And then there was a mystic tradition which was started with some of these Forgeries, they said they came from, you know, the first century, but really they're created in the 12th century in Spain.
04:25:40.000And then you had Isaac Lurie and other developments off of that.
04:25:44.000And it represents a truly distinct religion.
04:25:47.000And so the Judaism in Israel, although it's the same people, they're practicing an altogether different religion, which is only based on the partial revealed word of God, which is the Old Testament.
04:25:58.000And anyway, but once again, that gets into the Jewishness of Israel, the Jewishness of the people, trying to introduce this false distinction and say they have nothing to do with each other.
04:26:08.000The Israel of the Old Testament has absolutely nothing to do with the Israel that is this modern creation.
04:26:16.000So, you know, but it's a very complex topic.
04:26:20.000I guess I could understand why Tucker doesn't want to get into that, you know, for one reason or another.
04:26:25.000Again, we could speculate on the why, but – What my motivation is.
04:26:32.000Okay, so I'm just trying to understand.
04:26:33.000You said God tells you to support the modern state of Israel in the Bible, in some place in the Bible that you heard about, but you don't know where it is.
04:26:56.000That is for me a personal motivation, but I also, what I was about to say, I don't believe my personal faith, not everyone who I represent is a Christian.
04:27:04.000It's not an argument for me to give that we should do this because of my faith.
04:27:07.000And so as an elected official, I don't give that as the reason we should support Israel.
04:27:11.000That is a personal motivation for me, but I don't think it is the reason we should.
04:27:14.000The reason that I am the leading defender of Israel is because Israel is our strongest ally in the Middle East, an incredibly troubled part of the world, and supporting Israel benefits America.
04:27:23.000The clearest illustration of that is what is happening right now.
04:28:01.000Number one, the Ayatollah is a religious zealot.
04:28:04.000He is a lunatic, but a particularly dangerous kind of lunatic because he's driven by religious fervor.
04:28:09.000When he says death to America and death to Israel, I believe him.
04:28:13.000And I think Iran is trying to get a nuclear weapon because there is a very real possibility they would use a nuclear weapon.
04:28:19.000So you want to ask, how does supporting Israel benefit us?
04:28:21.000Right now, this tiny little country, the size of the state of New Jersey, is fighting our enemies for us and taking out their top military leadership and trying to take out their nuclear capacity.
04:28:32.000So the president has said repeatedly Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and he will do whatever it takes to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
04:29:56.000But what is true, and what your newsletter didn't acknowledge, is it true or false that Iran is currently trying to murder Donald J. Trump and has paid hitmen to do so?
04:30:03.000Well, that's the question, and I don't know the Butler-Pennsylvania thing.
04:30:08.000So Netanyahu misspoke when he said those two assassinations were because of Iran, but what he was saying that is right is they're actively trying to murder Donald J. Trump.
04:30:16.000OK, so you're aware of a plot to kill Trump.
04:30:29.000For the Trump attempted assassination, no.
04:30:31.000But they are also actively paying Iranian hitmen to murder Mike Pompeo when he was President Trump's first Secretary of State, the first term, rather.
04:30:38.000John Bolton, when John Bolton was National Security Advisor to President Trump.
04:30:42.000And a guy named Brian Hook, who was Assistant Secretary of State.
04:31:14.000Under the Biden administration, the State Department was spending $2 million a month providing security for Pompeo, Bolton, and Hook.
04:31:21.000And they did arrest Iranian hitmen at John Bolton's apartment complex who rented, I think, the apartment next to him and were actively trying to assassinate him.
04:33:09.000But I've never heard evidence that there are hitmen in the United States.
04:33:12.000I mean, trying to kill Trump right now, we should like have a nationwide dragnet on this and we should attack Iran immediately if that's true.
04:34:38.000A lot of it just turns into rhetoric, and it's totally disingenuous.
04:34:42.000I mean, for what it's worth, I don't find it totally unbelievable that Iran— I don't—especially the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
04:34:54.000The idea that they are—you know, that that's an impossibility, even to the extent that they're freelancing, meaning they're acting outside of a directive by the Ayatollah, I actually don't find that hard to believe.
04:35:06.000They've tried to kill people in D.C. before, an ambassador once, and I believe they did try to kill John Bolton.
04:35:12.000And, you know, so— I don't know if I necessarily disagree that Iran's trying to do that, but this like, oh, you know, we got to nuke Tehran if that's true.
04:35:22.000I just think that's being disingenuous.
04:35:24.000I don't think that's the strongest point, you know, and you have to understand what happened.
04:35:43.000I think that Israel is probably embellishing the threat or fabricating a plot that doesn't exist or an active plot or something like that.
04:35:51.000But the intelligence that says that the IRGC is trying to kill those responsible for killing Soleimani, like Pompeo and Bolton, I don't find that hard to believe at all.
04:36:03.000I don't think we should go to war with Iran over that.
04:36:07.000If Ted Cruz says, yeah, they're trying to kill people, we're advocating to bomb their nuclear program and have the people overthrow the government, I mean, I think that's internally consistent at least.
04:36:17.000Tucker, he doesn't seem to be taking a position either way.
04:36:20.000Sounds like he doesn't believe that they try to kill Trump, but it's not 100%.
04:37:38.000They're trying to develop nuclear weapons.
04:37:41.000They're close to developing nuclear weapons.
04:37:42.000And even a weak country with a nuclear weapon.
04:37:45.000Look, I believe there is a very real possibility if the Ayatollah develops a nuclear weapon that he would detonate it either in Tel Aviv or New York or Los Angeles.
04:37:53.000See, that's the part that's ridiculous.
04:37:55.000You know, they have me with the idea that, look, Iran is an adversary.
04:38:00.000Iran is enriching uranium to 60% so that they have this threshold status so they could rapidly nuclearize.
04:38:31.000Because the reason that they have enriched to the point that they have.
04:38:35.000The reason they have any kind of nuclear program at all is a response to the ongoing arms race in the Middle East.
04:38:42.000The idea that the mullahs, the cleric that runs Iran, is an irrational religious zealot who's motivated by a holocaust against the Jews, that's also ridiculous.
04:39:05.000We have an historic animosity and hostility between Tehran and Washington, going back to the revolution, going back to the coup in 53. What is to be done?
04:39:15.000Well, we have to understand the root causes of how we got here.
04:39:19.000Why is Iran hiring allegedly hitmen against Bolton and Pompeo and Trump?
04:39:24.000Because they arranged for the assassination of Soleimani.
04:39:50.000But it goes back to this nuclear arsenal.
04:39:52.000And once again, why are they looking to acquire a nuclear arsenal?
04:39:55.000It's related to the question of killing Trump or Pompeo or Bolton.
04:40:01.000Attain a threshold status because they are threatened by regime change from Israel and Washington.
04:40:07.000And that is the problem that we created.
04:40:09.000This is the unintended consequence, or maybe the intended consequence.
04:40:14.000Certainly it's intended by Israel, maybe unintended by the Americans in Washington, which is pursuing regime change in every single country in the Middle East.
04:40:36.000If you understand why Iran is pursuing a nuclear arsenal to the detriment of everything else, then you can understand how to assuage their concerns.
04:40:46.000Which is, if we can give Iran confidence that we will not overthrow their regime, then, probably, they will have faith enough How do we do that?
04:41:01.000The United States must be willing to restrain Israel.
04:41:04.000If we can hold Israel back, then Iran can be confident that we're not trying to overthrow their government.
04:41:10.000And I'm sure they would allow us inspections to oversee their nuclear program and they could be integrated into the regional economy.
04:41:17.000Now, whether the United States and Tehran can overcome decades of hostility is.
04:42:09.000At the same time, they cannot acquire a nuclear weapon.
04:42:12.000And their stockpile of highly enriched uranium, it certainly points towards – They want the ability to break out in a short window of time.
04:42:26.000But all of that springs from a credible fear of regime change motivated by Israel from the United States.
04:42:34.000So that's where there's a little bit of a digression there.
04:42:37.000I actually agree maybe more in some sense with Ted Cruz assessing that, like, yeah, would it be ideal if there was regime change?
04:43:56.000But aren't they, why would we actually see Israel if they're doing that?
04:44:03.000Okay, so you're saying we should just go in and take out the government of Iran.
04:44:05.000Why would we outsource it to Israel if they're trying to murder a president?
04:44:07.000See, this line from Tucker makes no sense.
04:44:10.000What I'm saying on any military judgment is there needs to be a cost-benefit analysis of what are the risks versus what are the benefits.
04:44:17.000In this instance, I think it is enormously in America's interest to do what Israel is doing right now, take out Iran's senior military leadership and take out their nuclear capacity.
04:44:25.000That is benefiting America, and it is a good risk-reward.
04:44:29.000I would oppose invading Iran and putting boots on the ground to topple the government.
04:44:35.000If the risk got severe enough, I would support that.
04:44:38.000But I think the relative risk is not severe enough to justify that step at this time.
04:44:42.000What I would absolutely oppose under any circumstances is invading Iran and then staying and trying to turn them into a democracy.
04:44:49.000And part of where Iraq really went off the rails is not only did we topple someone who was fighting radical Islamic terrorists, who was a bad guy, but then we tried the vision of interventionists.
04:44:58.000It actually overlaps with the vision of a lot of Democrats.
04:45:00.000Let's go promote democracy in the world.
04:45:03.000It is our military's job to kill the bad guys, to defend America.
04:45:06.000It's not their job to defend international norms.
04:45:45.000And I think that you just articulated the main lesson of it, which is it's either way.
04:45:49.000OK, so I'm going to probably we're not going to finish the whole thing.
04:45:54.000I'm going to end the stream at 8.30, so I'll do the stream for another half hour, and then I'll come back to do the show probably between 9 and 9.30.
04:49:16.000I have up on the shelf, I have a baseball cap that a grassroots supporter gave me with a picture of Daffy Duck and labeled wacko birds, which I liked and laughed when.
04:49:23.000But when he did that, I went to the Senate floor and I gave a speech praising John McCain.
04:49:28.000And it was the day he'd like attacked me publicly.
04:49:30.000And it happened to be, it was the 40th anniversary of his release from the Hanoi Hilton.
04:49:35.000And I was consciously, I just talked about what a privilege it is to serve with someone who suffered for his country, who served.
04:49:41.000And I didn't get into where we disagreed on policy on that speech.
04:49:44.000I just said, you know, the man is an American hero, and I'm proud to serve with him.
04:49:47.000But that was meant to be a statement also, that if you attack me, I'm going to praise you, not for things that are not praiseworthy.
04:49:52.000If I disagree with you, I will not be shy about saying it.
04:49:54.000But for things that are praiseworthy...
04:50:18.000But there is a third option where it turns into Syria, where it's this open wound and it causes massive migration and further destroys Europe, as Syria has.
04:50:33.000And listen, lots of bad things can happen.
04:50:36.000But going back to what we talked about, the principle of defending America, I agree with President Trump that Iran with a nuclear weapon is an unacceptable risk to America, and we need to stop it.
04:50:49.000I agree with President Trump, and I'll make a point.
04:50:59.000Look, it is consequential when the president of the United States says, So I understand why he hasn't.
04:51:04.000What he has said is he's drawn a red line and said Iran will not have a nuclear weapon and the only acceptable outcome is complete dismantlement.
04:51:25.000I agree with him supporting Israel, taking out Iran's military leadership, taking out their nuclear capability.
04:51:29.000And I'll point out, look, if you look the first term, I am hard-pressed to think of a single foreign policy decision Donald Trump made the first term that I disagree with.
04:51:38.000And that's not entirely accidental because I spent a lot of time the first term in the Oval Office with him.
04:51:54.000They would fight within the administration.
04:51:55.000And often what it would give is an opportunity for me to come in and say, hey, there's a middle path here that President Trump agreed with frequently.
04:52:04.000And it's worth noting in the first term, he most assuredly was not an isolationist.
04:52:07.000Look, he took out General Soleimani, which I emphatically agree with.
04:52:11.000And in fact, I introduced a resolution that we voted on the Senate floor commending him for taking out General Soleimani, who was the leader of the IRGC and who was responsible for killing over 600 American servicemen and women.
04:52:22.000When Trump came in, ISIS had a caliphate that had grown up under Obama that was about the size of the state of Indiana.
04:52:28.000And Trump came in and utterly decimated them.
04:52:30.000He killed the terrorists, took away their caliphate, and defeated them.
04:52:33.000And he also took out Baghdadi, the head of ISIS.
04:52:35.000I mean, those are not the actions of an isolationist.
04:52:38.000I don't even know what an isolationist is.
04:53:44.000One of the ways you shut down debate is by calling people names like isolationists, pretending they're like pro-Nazi or something, or as you did, claiming I'm an anti-Semite.
04:53:51.000That's not a way to get to a solution or have a rational conversation.
04:55:58.000I think it's morally justified to defend yourself, your family, your property, your nation.
04:56:03.000And so to the extent that you can deter a threat through violence, violence always being the least appealing choice, violence always being, if I can finish, always being a tragedy.
04:56:12.000I think you can justify the use of violence and self-defense.
04:56:15.000That is my personal view, and that applies to me and to the country.
04:57:16.000I've asked you the names of these people.
04:57:17.000I don't know the names of the Iranian hitmen.
04:57:19.000I know it because the U.S. military and the intelligence agencies have testified before Congress repeatedly that Iran is trying to murder Donald Trump and has hired hitmen.
04:59:25.000But if you don't like that term, I don't know how else to describe what is a coherent foreign policy that says we're surrounded by two giant nations.
04:59:31.000By the way, isolationism has long been a school of foreign policy.
05:00:44.000He fell on his own, in part because he was heavily supported by Hezbollah, and when Israel took out the Hezbollah leadership, he lost his base of support.
05:00:50.000But the current ISIS leadership you don't think is bad?
05:00:52.000You can't say it's terrible that ISIS runs a country?
05:02:24.000As you know, I do a podcast every week, Verdict with Ted Cruz, and I actually talked about it in the latest podcast.
05:02:27.000And I said, look, I've seen the reporting that says that Trump has them not to take out the Ayatollah.
05:02:31.000And when I said the podcast is, I think it's reasonable for them to decide not to try to take him out.
05:02:35.000What they've done is targeted just about the entire top level of the military, the people that actually conduct the war.
05:02:42.000I can see an argument that taking out both the head of state and a religious leader could make him a martyr and could cause more problems than it's worth.
05:02:49.000And by the way, if you take out the Ayatollah, I don't know, the next guy isn't just as bad.
05:02:56.000I don't know, but you mentioned before, and I want to go back to this, you said something like you, like most other politicians, are engaged in moral terms.
05:05:23.000They all say, well, you know, we support strikes on the nuclear facilities, but not regime change.
05:05:30.000They want us to take out the nuclear facilities so that Israel can do regime change or to get us trapped so that we participate in the regime change.
05:05:38.000Either way, that is their end objective.
05:05:40.000Their end objective is regime change, and roping the United States in is a part of that plan.
05:06:16.000That's why Iran has 60% enriched uranium.
05:06:20.000That's why Trump pulled us out of the nuclear deal the first time at their behest.
05:06:24.000And they want us involved to take out the nukes so that Iran is vulnerable.
05:06:29.000And then ideally, they with the United States can finish the job with a decapitation strike.
05:06:35.000So I think it's sort of pointless to go back and forth and say, well, you know, do you desire regime change this way or that way or just the strikes on the nuclear facilities?
05:07:01.000You restrain Israel, it opens the pathway for diplomacy, we can have a nuclear deal with inspections and confidence and verification, and the Iranian regime remains intact.
05:07:14.000The other package is, Israel is unrestrained, they make diplomacy impossible, we're drawn in bombing their nuclear facilities.
05:07:22.000Either that makes them vulnerable enough for decapitation, or we are stuck in the conflict after the nuclear sites, after the strikes on the nuclear facilities, and we're involved in the decapitation strike with Israel.
05:08:37.000But the stocking stuffer, you know, the extra, the side, the shareable.
05:08:42.000The handhelds and shareables, the shareable in the Iraq cause for war, the Casa's Belli, was that they participated in an anthrax plot, that they were involved with Al-Qaeda and bore some responsibility for 9-11.
05:08:56.000There's always these extras they throw in.
05:10:02.000I have not publicly called for killing the Ayatollah.
05:10:04.000What I've called for is doing whatever is necessary to stop him from getting nuclear weapons.
05:10:07.000In the first Trump term, what that meant was maximum pressure.
05:10:10.000So in the first Trump term, I spent a lot of time urging the president to withdraw from the disastrous Iranian nuclear deal that Obama had.
05:11:43.000Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
05:11:45.000Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman, Alex Pfeiffer, denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all.
05:12:34.000You're a powerful person in Washington.
05:12:36.000This is the most powerful country in the world.
05:12:37.000If you're calling for toppling in government, it's incumbent on you to know something about the country and to think through the consequences of that.
05:13:04.000You put out a whole newsletter saying Trump has abandoned America first.
05:13:06.000And here's what Trump said in response.
05:13:08.000Well, considering that I'm the one that developed America first and considering that the term wasn't used until I came along, I think I'm the one who decides that.
05:13:14.000For those people who say they want peace.
05:13:17.000So for all of those wonderful people who don't want to do anything about Iran having a nuclear weapon, that's not peace.
05:15:01.000I am the product of the last 25 years, watching carefully, being involved in the periphery, and I see an unending string of foreign policy disasters that have impoverished and hurt our country.
05:15:10.000They would include Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and our inability to stop the Houthis, by the way, in Yemen, which exposes us as weak, and I grieve over that.
05:15:47.000But we started a little bit late, as usual.
05:15:50.000So I'm going to wrap it up, and this is going to be the end of this stream.
05:15:54.000Again, I'm going to be doing a show tonight, I'm thinking around 9.30, 10 o 'clock, so in about an hour, hour and a half at the latest.
05:16:03.000I'll be back here doing America First on this channel, so make sure to subscribe, smash the like button, leave a comment, you know, all that stuff.
05:16:11.000I'm going to have something to eat, I'm going to change, and then I will be back.
05:16:15.000Tonight we're going to be covering all the latest in the Iran-Israel war.
05:16:19.000You know, this stream we just reviewed the Ted Cruz-Tucker Carlson interview.
05:16:23.000But tonight we're going to talk about all the latest developments, and it seems like there's quite a few.
05:16:28.000Trump says that he's going to make a decision within two weeks.
05:16:32.000Israel says they're going to kill the Ayatollah.
05:16:35.000Last night, there were some major Iranian ballistic missile sites on Tel Aviv and throughout Israel.
05:16:40.000Apparently, there's some new form of drone that flew across the entire country.