RUSSIAN CIVIL WAR... CANCELLED??? Wagner Group EXILED To Belarus And Africa | America First Ep. 1181RUSSIAN CIVIL WAR... CANCELLED??? Wagner Group EXILED To Belarus And Africa | America First Ep. 1181
The Russian Civil War was supposed to be a major event this weekend, but it was cancelled at the last minute. What happened? And why did this happen? We'll talk about that and much more on this episode of America First. We'll also be talking about a new audio tape that was revealed as evidence in the federal government's criminal charge against Donald Trump for allegedly improperly handling classified documents at Mar-A-Lago. And we'll also talk about why the Russian civil war got canceled and what that means for the future of the peace process between the United States and Russia. And, of course, we'll have our featured story of the day! Subscribe to America First on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date with what's going on in our new and improved America First! - Nicholas J. Fuentes and the crew at America First: A Podcast about American First! Subscribe, Share, and Tell a Friend about what you think of the show! If you like the show and want to support it, please consider pledging a small monthly or monthly small monthly donation. You can also become a patron by clicking the link below to get 20% off your first month's mailbag! and we'll get 10% off for the rest of the month! in-app ad-free version of the podcast! Thank you for supporting the show, too! You'll get a discount code "America First" when you sign up to receive $5, $10, $20, $25, $50, $55, $60, and $75, and get $100, and I'll get $150, and they get a VIP discount when they get my ad-only deal, and a VIP membership gets my ad discount when I sign up for VIP access starts next month, they get $4, VIP access gets 4 months get $3, VIP gets 4, they'll get 5, they also get VIP access to VIP access and I get a special offer, and two months get a promo code "Only America First, I'll also get $1, VIP, and VIP access, I'm also get 4, MB3, and all that gets 3, they're also get 3, VIP & VIP access? Thanks! Thanks for listening and support will be able to watch the show? Thanks, Nichole and I'm looking forward to your ad-less version of this episode!
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00:13:37.000And really for the last 60 years, I don't think you can trust anything because of the existence of espionage, high-level government private espionage.
00:13:49.000So it's difficult to piece everything together in a few days, but we'll talk about what we've learned and what went down on Saturday, why nothing happened.
00:13:59.000We'll talk about the President Putin's response.
00:14:02.000We'll talk about Wagner's response and, you know, what's going to happen from here.
00:14:08.000We'll also be talking tonight about a new audio tape that was revealed as evidence in the federal government's criminal charge against Donald Trump.
00:14:18.000And this is about those confidential documents that he was allegedly improperly handling at Mar-a-Lago.
00:14:29.000I forget who published it first, but... So he's charged with, I think it's 35 or 36 or 37 counts of improperly handling classified materials.
00:14:41.000They say that when he left the White House,
00:14:44.000He took with him all these classified documents that have national security importance.
00:14:50.000So it's not just anything, but it is actually important stuff.
00:14:55.000And they say that he did not relinquish them when he was asked for them by the National Archives.
00:15:01.000And they say that he was improperly storing them and that he was sharing them around.
00:15:08.000And not to a great extent, but that he was showing them around.
00:15:12.000So we have seen some evidence today, and we'll talk about the Trump legal team's response, but it's pretty bad.
00:22:10.000But don't I always discourage people from like if you're not if you're not rich don't don't do it and I only say that because it makes me feel bad if people like Scrimp and save and they put together $1,000 to like have dinner with me.
00:22:27.000It feels like I'm just taking your money and that's really not what it's for It's really more for people
00:22:32.000We have money, they want to sponsor our event, you know, and then they get a goodie.
00:22:38.000I always feel bad because sometimes the people that go to these, it's like young people that watch the show, and this is just like their discretionary income, and I'm like, no, like save your money.
00:22:51.000Now you can do that it's your prerogative, but I always feel a little bit bad when I see that I mean that's not the majority of cases, but In any case, but it is a lot of fun.
00:23:01.000I mean the last one we did for the first Fuentes rally It was very small intimate.
00:23:11.000And I got to give the inside scoop on everything, you know, because at these dinners I can say stuff that I can't say in public.
00:23:17.000So I get to tell all the inside stories about Ye and about AFPAC and Marjorie and all the things that have been going on over the last five years.
00:24:05.000I probably should have just pressed ahead but I said I'll take a short nap I'll wake up at 9 or 10 I'll do the show but I woke up like out of it I mean I was out cold so it took me took me a couple hours to work myself up but but I'm here and you know we got a good show also I forgot to announce this I'll be on Fresh and Fit Friday July 7th
00:26:55.000There's really two fundamental questions here about... I'm talking about these charges.
00:27:02.000So if you missed it, two weeks ago Donald Trump was charged by the Department of Justice 30-some counts of improperly handling classified documents.
00:27:13.000And this is part of a protracted investigation.
00:27:16.000Trump leaves office in January 2021 and there's a dialogue between his legal team and the National Records Administration and the National Archives.
00:27:31.000But so, the National Archives, National Records, they're chasing Trump down trying to get all these documents, classified documents, from him that he took from the White House to Mar-a-Lago.
00:27:44.000And at first Trump is cooperative, then they say that he began to be uncooperative around June 2022, last summer.
00:27:55.000And after the Trump team stopped being cooperative, they went to a judge, they got a warrant, and they called on the FBI to go and raid Mar-a-Lago pre-dawn, unannounced raid.
00:28:07.000They sent 50 FBI agents into his house, they locked down the storage room, the bedroom, the office, they took all these boxes out.
00:28:15.000And then they, over the course of the last 9 to 11 months, they've been looking into charging him.
00:28:21.000He's been a target of an investigation that he shouldn't have had these documents in the first place.
00:28:26.000And when he was requested the documents, he obstructed justice.
00:28:30.000He refused to go along with National Archives.
00:28:36.000And so this brings us to where we are today.
00:28:38.000And we have this new evidence, and we'll go through the new evidence from the New York Times here.
00:28:43.000But I want to say at the outset, there's really two questions.
00:28:45.000And the first question is, did he violate the statute?
00:29:00.000I think, probably, he did violate the statute.
00:29:03.000Now, there's all kinds of legal arguments that you can put forward and you can say, well, he had the authority to declassify them, even if he didn't affirmatively say that he was declassifying them.
00:29:16.000In other words, by the act of removing them from the White House, they were, in effect, declassified.
00:29:23.000Because the President has almost unlimited authority when it comes to these things because he's the Commander-in-Chief.
00:29:31.000So being the top law enforcement officer of the country, being the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, it's really his prerogative.
00:30:45.000Well, a civilian getting a traffic ticket, getting pulled over for speeding, is totally different than charging a former president or investigating a critical financial institution or these kinds of things.
00:31:01.000These powerful people or powerful entities should be held to a high standard.
00:31:06.000But it should be weighed at the same time that they have an enormous responsibility.
00:31:13.000And so when you take a look at these extremely powerful people and powerful institutions, are we really going to go after them for... If you're managing, for example, the federal bureaucracy of the United States of America, we're going to go after them for a hundred documents?
00:31:30.000We're talking about the federal government.
00:31:32.000We're talking about the federal bureaucracy.
00:31:37.000And he's not just running the White House and the administration and the executive branch, but he's also running a campaign.
00:31:45.000We're gonna go after him because of a filing error for like a hundred papers.
00:31:51.000And that leads me to another point on the same matter, which is not just about
00:31:56.000The fact that there really is a different standard when you look at these people.
00:32:00.000But by the same token, the severity of the crime.
00:32:04.000If you're going to charge somebody and it's this significant, it sets a precedent, it has this gravity, it changes, in some sense you could say it changes the course of America because this is the guy that's running for office right now.
00:32:17.000Happens to be running for office against the guy that appointed the Attorney General.
00:32:23.000The thing that you're going to charge him for
00:32:28.000And again, I'm not saying that a president or a powerful person should never be charged with anything, or should be never charged under any circumstance, but a prosecutor has enormous discretion, the Attorney General has enormous discretion about who to prosecute and for what, and when it gets to that level,
00:32:52.000At that point, you do have to weigh what is the best outcome for the country.
00:32:56.000Because if you're just prosecuting everybody for everything, society starts to break down.
00:33:02.000It is true that powerful people do have privilege.
00:33:20.000Every dirtbag in the street, if every low-level person in the society, and I don't mean that to sound nasty, but if every person from the bottom of the pyramid was able to break every law, there would be no order.
00:33:37.000Total disorder, and they would abuse it and take total advantage of it, and society would crumble.
00:33:43.000But when you get to these higher levels, and you talk about the President, or you talk about the top 50 billionaires, or the CEOs of the Fortune 500 companies, if they exercise some privilege, being people that are the ones that organize the society around us, that they're the responsible parties, if they get off on the paperwork or on the traffic ticket,
00:34:07.000You know, I think that's actually just what you need to have society function.
00:34:10.000Because you're not going to find people to run our society that are efficient and competent and have integrity, but are perfect.
00:34:20.000You know, and this, hey, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
00:34:23.000I think that makes sense up to a point.
00:35:08.000We're talking about this was a conspiracy.
00:35:11.000They set up the email server in her home
00:35:15.000An endeavor to use that so as outside of the purview of the government.
00:35:21.000If they held the private server, as opposed to having the State Department communications on our State Department issued phone, then it's outside the reach of the federal government.
00:35:32.000And therefore, the federal government can't see it.
00:35:35.000And therefore, they don't know what's going on while she's the Secretary of State and conducting the diplomatic mission of the United States.
00:35:42.000And then, when they subpoena her, they destroy it.
00:35:47.000Not, you know, they go in and they recover the emails.
00:35:50.000They destroy it before Congress can even get to them.
00:35:57.000So then there's that third layer of, okay, if the prosecutor has discretion and he thinks that this is an appropriate use of his discretionary authority, well then how do you explain the double standard?
00:36:09.000How do you explain that nobody else who had the same issue is being charged?
00:36:13.000Not Biden, not Clinton, not Obama, not anybody.
00:36:17.000And then you add the fact that not only were none of those people charged, but probably, at least in the case of Hillary Clinton, it was worse.
00:36:26.000Hillary Clinton did not have the same declassifying power as the President, and she conspired to destroy the evidence.
00:37:04.000An audio recording of former President Trump in 2021 discussing what he called the highly confidential document about Iran that he acknowledged he could not declassify because he was out of office appears to contradict his recent assertion that the material he was referring to was simply a news clipping.
00:37:23.000Portions of a transcript of the two-minute recording of Mr. Trump were cited by federal prosecutors in the indictment of Mr. Trump.
00:37:30.000The recording captured his conversation in July 2021 with a publisher and writer working on a memoir by Mr. Trump's final Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows.
00:37:40.000In it, Mr. Trump discussed what he described as a secret plan regarding Iran, drawn up by General Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Defense Department.
00:37:51.000The audio, which is likely to feature as evidence in Mr. Trump's trial, was played for the first time in public on Monday by CNN and was also obtained by the New York Times.
00:38:01.000Last week, in an interview with Fox News, Mr. Trump insisted that he was not presenting classified material in the meeting, which was recorded.
00:38:10.000Mr. Trump said he was not referring to secret or highly confidential documents, but rather was talking about newspaper stories.
00:38:18.000But the audio recording of the full encounter
00:38:21.000Suggests that Mr. Trump was referring not to a second-hand account, but to a specific piece of paper or papers in front of him.
00:39:05.000I don't know, we'll have to see, you know?
00:39:06.000We'll have to try to figure out, declassify it.
00:39:09.000See, as president, I could have declassified it, but now I can't.
00:39:14.000The woman says, quote, now we have a problem.
00:39:18.000Mr. Trump says it's so cool, eventually calling out for someone to bring a Coke to drink.
00:39:25.000So, I mean, he's literally in the audio saying, this is secret, isn't this so cool, look at this.
00:39:33.000I could have declassified it, but now I can't.
00:39:37.000In a statement, Stephen Chung, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, avoided commenting on the bulk of the recording's content.
00:39:44.000And instead focused on a quip Mr. Trump made during the meeting about Representative Anthony Weiner's role in the investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server.
00:39:53.000Chung said, quote, the audio tape provides context proving once again that Mr. Trump did nothing wrong at all, adding that he was speaking rhetorically and humorously about Mr. Weiner and accusing the media and Trump haters of taking the bait.
00:40:07.000Some of Mr. Trump's lawyers have been aware of the recording since March when one of the aides who attended the meeting, Margo Martin, was asked about it during an appearance before the grand jury.
00:40:17.000The full clip undercuts arguments made by some of Mr. Trump's allies that he was simply blustering and exaggerating or mischaracterizing the material he described in the recording.
00:40:27.000The indictment charges Mr. Trump with illegally holding on to 31 individual national security documents and with conspiring with one of his personal aides, Walt Nolta, to obstruct the government's repeated efforts to reclaim the records.
00:43:49.000Now, granted, he had the power to declassify this.
00:43:53.000If he had simply waved his hand and said, I declassify this before he left, oh now it's not a 10-year crime.
00:44:00.000Now it's not a 10-year penalty anymore.
00:44:02.000If he had simply waved a wand in January 2021 before he left and said, I declassify this, and then this happened, oh well then there would be no charge.
00:44:16.000Does anybody really think that this is
00:44:20.000Getting to the spirit of the statute here, the spirit of the law.
00:44:24.000It's not like he was giving this to a foreign government.
00:44:27.000It's not like he was leaking this to some spy.
00:44:29.000It's not like he sold this to America's adversaries or published it on his Twitter.
00:44:37.000And this is, again, granting that the recording should be taken at face value, literally.
00:44:46.000This is what the federal charge is about?
00:44:49.000A former president has never been charged with a federal crime, but he is now for this?
00:44:57.000This stuff happens all the time, you can bet.
00:45:00.000You think that Obama, you think that Bush, or Biden, or Clinton, or any of these people, you think they don't have these conversations in their parlor, in their mansions?
00:45:10.000You think that they don't have keepsakes?
00:45:12.000You think that they don't have classified documents?
00:45:14.000They've never had these conversations?
00:45:30.000But the federal charge is a huge deal.
00:45:34.000And it would be a huge deal on its own.
00:45:39.000But then add to the fact that Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, which happens to be the opposition for the sitting president.
00:45:49.000You could argue that if he was just a retired former president, maybe it'd be different.
00:45:55.000This is a guy that's still, and not only still a politician, but he's still one of the most popular politicians in America.
00:46:03.000Higher favorability rating than all the congressional leadership close to Biden.
00:46:10.000So it's just like unconscionable that you would have these prosecutors at every level coming after this guy for this crap.
00:46:20.000Like, we're gonna hit you with erroneous business entry, we're gonna make it a felony level because of some convoluted, ridiculous argument.
00:49:00.000They go after your friends, guilt by association.
00:49:02.000They go after your family, your wife, your kids, parents, siblings.
00:49:11.000And in the course of that, they're bound to find something.
00:49:14.000They're bound to find something legal because there is such a vast and complex legal code that if you are a billionaire running for federal office, you're going to be in trouble.
00:49:27.000Because it's a vast, vast, complex code.
00:49:31.000So if you have a creative prosecutor that's looking and they want to nail you on something, and they've got the resources and the political support to do it, you think it's going to be hard for them to find something?
00:49:43.000They've been investigating this man for eight years.
00:49:47.000And the accusation was, you were controlled by Russia, you were controlled by Ukraine or extorting Ukraine, you're doing this, that, and the other.
00:49:56.000What did they come up with between Roger Stone and Michael Flynn and the former campaign manager, whose name I forget, and Bannon and subpoenaing everybody and all this stuff?
00:50:29.000And anyway, not to get back into the question about how severe it is.
00:50:34.000The point is, the guy's basically innocent.
00:50:37.000The guy's conduct is basically unimpeachable.
00:50:41.000Consider how much effort and how much money has gone into turning over every stone and trying to get this guy in jail or kill this guy or whatever.
00:51:55.000And we're talking about the system that has so many resources, they're gonna find something.
00:52:01.000And that's why we have to have special... Excuse me.
00:52:04.000We have to have a special consideration for these people, which is to say there has to be a wide latitude for charity and generosity when it comes to these people that you say, we can forgive a lot.
00:52:21.000In other words, if you believed or entertained every accusation against Trump, you wouldn't support him anymore.
00:52:29.000Because it has been, it has been non-stop and relentless and absurd for a decade.
00:52:38.000Nobody could withstand, if you entertained every single, oh his rally size, his crowd size at the inauguration wasn't big enough, oh Fox News and Russia and Sergey Kislyak and the Ukrainian phone call and
00:52:56.000Kids in cages in shithole countries and they're bringing rapists and Kizra Khan, the gold star family.
00:54:44.000But anyway, so that, those are the charges.
00:54:46.000That's my feeling, that's been my feeling for a long, long, long time about Trump and about people like Trump is you just, you gotta just give him a break.
00:54:55.000To put it very simply, cut him some slack, give him a break.
00:55:20.000And it started and it was over in like 36 hours.
00:55:28.000But if you missed it on Friday, the head of the Wagner PMC group, the private military company, declared war on the Russian Ministry of Defense.
00:55:41.000So, and I'm not going to talk about the whole situation again, but, you know, if you've been paying attention in Ukraine, Russia has been fighting with their official military, but they've also employed the use of one of the biggest and most important private military companies in the world, the Wagner Group, to go and fight in Ukraine.
00:56:24.000And so the head of the Wagner Group, after a power struggle with the President of Russia and with the Minister of Defense, declared war on the Russian military.
00:56:33.000And he said that it wasn't a coup, he wasn't trying to overthrow the government, but he was trying to overthrow the military leadership.
00:56:39.000He wanted to take control of the military.
00:56:42.000He's the head of this, and his name is Pergozhin, and he's the head of this private military company that's doing some of the fighting and amid a dispute and power struggle and tension with the Minister of Defense that runs the Russian military.
00:56:56.000He declared war on the Russian military and sought to depose the Minister of Defense and the generals that had been conducting the war.
00:57:04.000He wanted to take over the military and lead it himself.
00:57:08.000So he began a march to Moscow on Friday.
00:57:11.000He crossed the border from Ukraine into Russia with his soldiers.
00:57:15.000They took over a major city called Rostov.
00:57:19.000And they took over specifically the Ministry of Defense buildings in Rostov, which implies that the Ministry of Defense either surrendered or they joined up with the Wagner Group.
00:57:30.000And the Wagner Group moved very quickly, without any resistance, through the Russian M4 highway.
00:57:39.000Traveling north, headed to Moscow, and the goal apparently was to lay siege to the city, and then once they captured Moscow, they wanted to kill the Minister of Defense, kill the generals, take control of the military, and then go back into Ukraine and win the war.
00:58:55.000They went through this mediation with Lukashenko, they stopped short of laying siege to the city or any real engagement with the Russian military before the Chechens began fighting them in Rostov, and a deal was brokered.
00:59:09.000And the deal is that the Wagner Group will be absolved, they'll be totally exonerated for their rebellion.
00:59:17.000And some Wagner group can join the Ministry of Defense, they can sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense and join the Russian military, and those that do not contract with the Russian military will have to leave Russia and they'll have to go to Belarus with Prigozhin.
00:59:33.000And I don't really know what the story is there.
00:59:39.000I don't understand the point of putting them there quite yet, although there are some theories.
00:59:45.000But so that was the deal and Putin gave a speech this morning and said that Purgosian is a traitor who sought to divide Russia and put Russians against Russians and played into the hands of the enemy and he was appeared to be very angry and he says that the Wagner group can either contract with the Ministry of Defense.
01:00:05.000He's not blaming the soldiers but he's saying the soldiers in the Wagner group have to join the Russian military or they have to be exiled to Belarus or back to Africa.
01:00:15.000Because a lot of them are fighting in Africa.
01:00:18.000Not that they're black, but they're just fighting in Africa.
01:00:21.000And so this is a story from the New York Times.
01:00:23.000It says, quote, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday delivered his first address to Russia after Wagner Chief Pugosian's short-lived uprising ended, vowing to Wagner fighters that he would uphold his side of the deal that was reached to end the mutiny.
01:00:39.000Putin thanked Russian citizens and his security forces for opposing the mutiny,
01:00:44.000He did not mention Purgosian by name, saying that the organizers of the rebellion had betrayed their country.
01:00:50.000The Russian leader said that Ukraine and its western backers wanted to see Russians kill each other and for the country to fall into civil war.
01:00:58.000He said they wanted Russian soldiers to kill each other so the military personnel and civilians would die so that in the end Russia would lose and our society would split, choke in bloody civil strife.
01:01:10.000He said they rubbed their hands, dreaming of taking revenge of their failures at the front and during the so-called counteroffensive, but they miscalculated.
01:01:19.000Discussing the Wagner members, Putin said that the overwhelming majority of the fighters and commanders of the mercenary force are Russian patriots.
01:01:27.000He thanked the Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko for mediating negotiations to end the crisis.
01:01:34.000Putin vowed to uphold the agreement by offering Wagner members the option of signing a contract with the Russian Defense Ministry, going home to their families, or traveling to Belarus.
01:01:45.000The exact details of the deal brokered by Lukashenko are not clear.
01:01:50.000The Kremlin initially said that the Wagner fighters who didn't take part in the mutiny could sign contracts with the Defense Ministry.
01:01:57.000But Putin's comments suggested all members of the mercenary force have that option.
01:02:02.000The Kremlin has said that Purgosian will go to Belarus under the agreement.
01:02:06.000Purgoshin released an 11-minute audio recording on his telegram, but his whereabouts are unclear.
01:02:12.000In the recording, he defended his actions, claiming he was not trying to overthrow the government.
01:02:16.000He said his motive was to prevent the destruction of Wagner, saying that the PMC would cease to exist by July 1st due to the Russian Defense Ministry's demand to have all volunteer fighters sign contracts.
01:02:29.000He said a Russian missile strike that killed 30 Wagner fighters sparked their march into Russia,
01:02:35.000But that claim has not been confirmed.
01:02:38.000According to Russia Today, multiple reports have said that Purgoshin's fighters shot down a Russian helicopter and airplane during the mutiny, killing 20 Russian airmen, but the figures have not been confirmed by the Russian Defense Ministry.
01:02:53.000After launching the insurrection on Friday, the Wagner fighters captured a military base in the city of Rostov-on-Don and were headed toward Moscow on Saturday before turning around after Prigozhin agreed to back down.
01:03:21.000Between Prigozhin, who was operating outside the formal official chain of command of the Russian military, who was fighting on the front line and more successful, and taking the brunt of the casualties, and he was fighting with the Russian Defense Ministry and Generals, which were providing the logistics for the war, and who were apparently withholding ammunition,
01:03:46.000And we're concerned about Purgosian's political ambitions and his growing power.
01:03:52.000And this all came to a head when the Defense Ministry demanded that Wagner turn over all their volunteers to the Russian Defense Ministry.
01:04:00.000I said it is apparent that the precipitating cause of this mutiny was the decision by the Defense Ministry and the support from Putin to
01:04:12.000To force all of the Wagner volunteers to sign contracts with the Defense Ministry.
01:04:16.000In other words, they would have, and Purgosian is right, they would have gotten rid of the Wagner group.
01:04:22.000Wagner Group is a private entity of volunteer fighters, and the Defense Ministry said you have to sign them up to contracts with the Russian military.
01:04:31.000And that would, in effect, subordinate all of these fighters to the Russian military.
01:04:36.000And so, in effect, Purgosian's authority and this entity as a separate private entity would cease to exist.
01:04:44.000And that was a very calculated move, it was basically an ultimatum, where Putin and Shoigu said, look, enough messing around, you're out of control, you're a nut job, you work for us, and you have to sign the contract, you have to bend the knee, it's time for you to capitulate, you are going to join the chain of command.
01:05:04.000The Wagner Group is part of the military now.
01:05:07.000And Purgosian said, in response to this, no, I think the missile strike, probably fake, but who knows?
01:05:14.000It sounds like that was just a rationalization.
01:05:18.000That created the pretext for the mutiny.
01:05:21.000But the real pretext was, he wanted to get a better deal.
01:05:28.000And again, the official story, this is with the official facts.
01:05:32.000Sounds like perhaps he never intended actually to overthrow the government or overthrow the defense ministry.
01:05:37.000It sounds like this was an elaborate protest.
01:06:07.000He charged through at lightning speed and approached Moscow in a day, apparently exactly as he had planned, with very little intervening factors.
01:06:25.000If he arrives in Moscow and then suddenly decides, you know what, never mind.
01:06:30.000It's not like he said never mind because he encountered something that he didn't expect.
01:06:35.000And if he were to show up just to say never mind, that would seem to suggest that he never intended on overthrowing the government in the first place.
01:06:42.000You don't make a decision like that, go that far, and then at the last minute say, you know what, forget it.
01:06:48.000He mutinied, he called for the removal of the Russian president, he called for the death of the defense ministry, he killed Russian airmen, stunned the whole world, betrayed his countrymen, they're destroying infrastructure, and then he got where he needed to go and then said, you know, never mind, forget it, I'm good.
01:07:14.000So according to the official facts, it would seem that the Defense Ministry gave him an ultimatum and said, listen, you're going to join the military.
01:07:25.000And he did a wild, dramatic protest to give himself some leverage to save the wagon group and said, you know what?
01:07:35.000You're not gonna cut off our logistics?
01:07:38.000He basically outmaneuvered them, because if the Wagner Group didn't sign the contract with the Ministry of Defense, probably the Ministry of Defense would have undertaken steps to destroy the Wagner Group, because that was an ultimatum.
01:08:16.000Either die, or join up with the Russian military.
01:08:19.000Either be destroyed, dissolved, whatever you want to say, wind up in jail, or dissolve your army.
01:08:27.000And Purgosian declared war on the Defense Ministry.
01:08:30.000He, you know, declared a preemptive first strike.
01:08:32.000Before you can eradicate me, or force me to capitulate, I'm going to charge you the capital.
01:08:39.000And that is what it would seem happened to protect himself and to protect his PMC.
01:08:48.000Now that's with the official narrative.
01:08:51.000On the other hand, if you just look at a map, it's very interesting.
01:08:57.000And I'm not going to pull one up right now, but if you look at a map, Prigozhin marches away from the eastern front in the Ukrainian war across into Russia.
01:09:09.000So Russia's moving westward into Ukraine, Ukraine's counteroffensive is pushing east against them, and the front is in eastern Ukraine, western Russia.
01:09:19.000Purgosian takes his elite fighters, who just got done at Bakhmut and have been licking their wounds for the last month, moves them east into Russia, in one day, moves them north to the capital, east, north, and then Putin sends them west into Belarus.
01:09:36.000And it creates, and people have pointed this out, it creates a circle, it creates a crescent.
01:09:44.000Moved east from Ukraine into Russia, away from the front lines of the fighting, where all the Ukrainians are, and conducting their counteroffensive.
01:09:54.000Moved east, north towards Moscow, and then west to Belarus.
01:09:59.000Now, if he's in Belarus, Belarus is 100 kilometers from Kiev, which is the capital of Ukraine.
01:10:04.000It's also very far west of the front line.
01:10:09.000And so people have pointed out that this little mutiny conveniently has positioned the elite Wagner fighting force a hundred kilometers north of Kiev in a matter of two days.
01:10:23.000They got there in two days with this giant spectacle.
01:10:27.000Not only that, but because of what happened and the manner in which it happened, it has drawn the Ukrainians east.
01:10:35.000The Ukrainians, imagining that a Russian civil war was imminent, imagining that the Russian front line in the east was going to be weakened, have now pressed.
01:10:50.000And so you consider that, regardless of all the details, think about the positioning of these armies.
01:10:57.000In a matter of two days, the elite PMC, the elite fighting force that just won Bakhmut,
01:11:04.000Against all odds, that have been experienced, that have been doing the brunt of the fighting, in two days they have been relocated from the front line where the counter-offensive is happening, to 100 miles, 100 kilometers north of Kiev's capital, in the center of the country, west of the Dnieper River.
01:11:26.000And, at the same time, concurrently, the Ukrainian armies have moved further east, away from the capital.
01:11:35.000And the trouble that I'm having is, why would Putin move them to Belarus?
01:11:40.000Because if Putin is calling them traitors, if he's saying they're traitors, and they killed Russians, and they tried to divide Russia, why would he put them in neighboring Belarus?
01:11:49.000It's not like Belarus is far from Russia.
01:12:04.000He lets Wagner join the military, even though they just mutinied.
01:12:08.000And then Purgosian, who led the mutiny, and those that are not going to submit themselves to the government, he's going to say, hey, just go to our neighbor.
01:12:19.000So I have trouble, and that's the thing, we don't know all the details of the deal, and I have trouble making sense of it without those details.
01:12:30.000I don't think there's any deductive way to figure out why they would be moved to Belarus.
01:13:48.000And time has elapsed, so that means that if you were going to make a move against Prigozhin, you can get into position.
01:13:55.000The Russian elite forces, the Kadyrovites, the Chechens can get into position.
01:14:02.000You can get the drop on these guys now.
01:14:07.000But instead, he's just letting them all go.
01:14:10.000So those are two things that don't make sense.
01:14:12.000It's a mutiny that didn't actually ever desire to succeed.
01:14:17.000At the same time, you've got a president retaliating against rebellious traitors without any real punishment.
01:14:25.000And when all is said and done, they relocated their elite fighting force from the front line to the capital.
01:14:31.000To the capital of the opposing nation.
01:14:34.000A hundred kilometers north of the capital of the opposing country, in the middle of their highly anticipated counteroffensive in the east.
01:14:47.000So the whole thing, without making any big claims, because we don't really have concrete information, but I would say with some confidence that the information we have indicates that
01:15:07.000I think we have a high degree of confidence that, based on the available information, it would indicate that there is something else going on that we're not aware of.
01:15:16.000That's all I'm going to say, because I don't know.
01:16:24.000So... I have a feeling we don't know the full story, and we'll figure it out over the coming months that, you know, something else is going on here.
01:19:09.000He goes there, and they're sitting on their pillows, and they got their Muslim library, and they talk for an hour and a half, and instead of talking about, you know, Islam, they just spend 90 minutes shitting on Christianity.
01:19:49.000They're selling their religion like these Egyptians will try to sell tourist beads at the Great Pyramids.
01:19:58.000And so the guy's going around and saying, look, I got a National Geographic magazine for children that says that Christianity is a pagan holiday.
01:20:21.000We're going to spend the whole hour and a half just attacking Christianity.
01:20:25.000I don't think a real religion, I don't think a real religion does.
01:20:28.000The real religion, if that were the real religion, it would just speak about itself, speak for itself, it wouldn't go and talk about the other thing.
01:20:36.000They didn't spend the whole hour attacking Judaism.
01:20:38.000They didn't spend the whole hour attacking Buddhism.
01:20:41.000They didn't spend the whole hour attacking Hinduism.
01:20:43.000They spent an hour and a half attacking Christianity with these third grade arguments.
01:20:49.000Well, in the Bible it says this here, and then over here it says this.
01:20:55.000Yeah, no, I guess Christians didn't notice that.
01:22:19.000Christianity's been around for 2,000 years.
01:22:23.000They've reprinted the Bible billions of times.
01:22:26.000Some of the most intelligent people in the history of the world have been Christians and Bible scholars.
01:22:31.000So, just with common sense, just understanding all of that as basic common sense, do you think that all these people, do you think that these institutions, these doctors, scientists, so on, philosophers, for thousands of years,
01:22:47.000You think that they didn't know about these things?
01:22:49.000You think that they didn't have a way to make sense out of them?
01:22:52.000Do you think that if they didn't know about them or make sense out of them, that then they would try to correct those things?
01:23:00.000Because at once they say that the Bible has been mistranslated.
01:23:05.000They say that the Bible has been mistranslated or corrupted.
01:23:08.000Okay, so if the Bible's corrupted and if the Christians are wrong, why wouldn't they just cover those things up?
01:23:15.000If there wasn't a good reason for them, if there wasn't a good explanation for those apparent discrepancies, and if you're already accusing them of being corrupt, you know, they've got no hang-ups about reproducing a corrupt text or corrupt translation or something like this, then why wouldn't they just cover it up?
01:23:37.000Why wouldn't they just, when they notice it, just change it so that it's consistent?
01:23:43.000So that would lead you to believe, again just based on common sense, that Christians are aware of it and have a good reason for that.
01:24:25.000I think, and we have to get to the bottom line here, we gotta get to the fundamentals, which is these red-pilled people are really not interested all that much in finding God.
01:24:37.000They are political people pursuing this lifestyle thing.
01:24:45.000And insofar as Islam comports with their political lifestyle agenda, then they like Islam.
01:24:52.000Because when you listen to their complaints about Christianity, or the reasons why they like Islam, they don't say things like, I had a religious experience.
01:25:01.000They don't say things like, I thought it was more convincing.
01:25:05.000You know, Islam's argument for the nature of God is more convincing than the Christian.
01:25:10.000They say things like, well, Islam's more based.
01:25:13.000Islam's more based, and Christianity's more cringe.
01:25:16.000And in Islam, you can have multiple lives.
01:25:19.000And in Islam, Muslims are more based than Christians.
01:25:30.000So because you don't think that Christians are faithful enough to their religion and Muslims are more faithful to their religion, you think the Muslim religion is more true because the people believe it harder.
01:26:10.000And it's the same fallacy of, what do they call it, you know, they show the picture of a bomber that comes back from war with bullet holes on it and the engineers have been covering up the parts of the plane where there are bullet holes.
01:26:27.000But they didn't understand that the planes that came back with bullet holes, those are the planes that didn't crash.
01:26:33.000So those are all the parts of the plane that could be shot and still survive.
01:26:38.000The planes that didn't come back were the ones that got shot in the places that cannot afford to be shot.
01:26:46.000And what this says is that just because Christianity is under attack and been subverted doesn't mean that Islam is true.
01:26:56.000Christianity has been attacked and subverted because it's potent, because it's effective.
01:27:06.000So, you know, and aside from that, that's not even an argument about whether the religion is true or not.
01:27:15.000You know, to say, oh, well, the people in the church are bad.
01:28:20.000And as far as the rest of it goes, you know, once again, to get back to the earlier point about the so-called contradictions, to say, oh, look, an apparent contradiction, boom, roasted, there it is.
01:28:34.000It's like, even if you knew nothing, you'd have to entertain the idea there's an explanation.
01:28:40.000I'd say, okay, well, what is the explanation?
01:29:19.000So anyway... You know, to say that... and they always say, well, Islam is internally consistent.
01:29:28.000And it's like... so that means it's true.
01:29:30.000It's like anyone can come up with something that's internally consistent.
01:29:33.000If anything, if it's more accessible, that leads me to believe that its nature is probably less sophisticated.
01:29:45.000You know, a child could create a universe which is internally consistent.
01:29:49.000And it's not to say that the Bible isn't, but it is to say that maybe there's a barrier to understanding because we're talking about the divine.
01:29:55.000If we're talking about the nature of God, yeah, maybe we actually can't grasp it in its fullness.
01:30:01.000Maybe there would be some things that are mysterious.
01:30:03.000Maybe there'd be some things that actually do challenge the intellect.
01:30:07.000To say like, look, Islam doesn't contradict itself.
01:31:53.000Anyway, yeah, so now after I got done reading my National Geographic for 12 year olds, proving that Christianity is Saturn worship, I'm gonna go worship the Black Cube in Mecca.
01:32:05.000I'm gonna go walk around the Black Cube in Mecca in a country governed by Saudi Arabia, which is controlled by Israel.
01:32:14.000Because I'm not, because we're not involved in anything like that.
01:32:47.000But I gotta prepare some more because, you know, I'm not, I'm not the theology guy, but watching these Muslims makes me want to become the theology guy because it's like, you know, and they're just preying on, uh, they're just preying on ignorance and they're ultimately, they're preying on, um, you know, this, I don't know what you call that in people, but they don't want to know the truth.
01:33:12.000They want to be told something that they like.
01:33:16.000And, uh, you know, Islam appeals to men's pride.
01:33:19.000You know, they say stuff like, well, Islam's badass!
01:35:29.000If you are sincere about your faith, if you just talk about it without getting angry, without getting heated, you know, over time you may be able to soften their hearts, and you gotta pray for them.
01:35:40.000You know, this idea, and I've been talking about this a lot lately, this idea that you just say the magic words and convert somebody with the best possible argument ignores the nature of grace, which is that grace comes from God.
01:35:54.000And everybody has enough grace to get them to God, but people make choices in their life
01:37:07.000Like, this is just a master of people.
01:37:13.000That's what you realize about this man.
01:37:16.000Is when he was being more friendly, when he was being more unfriendly, this guy is just like a savant animal level like negotiator.
01:37:32.000Because when Ye first showed up, when we first showed up, when we first got there, and Ye was kind of being shy, you know, Trump kept it moving.
01:38:15.000And he sort of took on this more aggressive tone It was intimidating and that's instinct and his ability to project that to make people to endear people to him and to be friendly, but also to To instill this sort of unease that's instinct and so I would say more than he's a great intellect like just in terms of like I think he's very high IQ and
01:38:40.000But more than that, he's got this killer instinct.
01:38:43.000And anybody that's talked to him knows that.
01:38:45.000Anybody that knows him will pick up on that very quickly.
01:41:19.000I actually don't think she's a man anymore, because that guy that did the Trayvon documentary, he did a documentary about it and he said that she's a biological woman.
01:45:15.000They do a lot of damage to your reputation, and it's very unfortunate because there's really nothing you can do about that.
01:45:21.000You know, liars, gossip mongers can go out there, and because I'm famous, because of my name, they can do a stream about me, and people watch it because it's about me.
01:45:34.000Nobody would care what they had to say on their own, but they could do a stream, and they could just say anything.
01:45:44.000And just peddle negativity and gossip non-stop.
01:45:48.000And there's just nothing you can do about that.
01:45:49.000And as a matter of probability, some people are going to watch it, some people are going to believe it, and there's just nothing you can do about it.
01:45:57.000And to some extent, even responding to it, you can't even respond to it.
01:46:00.000Because responding to it gives it more airtime.
01:46:04.000Responding to it, you know, again, statistically, you could respond to it even if your arguments airtight, even if there's no evidence against you.
01:46:12.000A portion are going to not like you and believe it.
01:46:15.000A portion are going to not support you.
01:46:18.000And so even exposing your large audience to defend yourself, you can't even do.
01:46:23.000And you just have to tolerate a certain level of malicious gossip.
01:46:27.000A certain level of malicious, libel, reputational destruction, harassment, and you know, it's just sick and it's not right.
01:46:40.000But for people that actually care for the people that are invested and actually care You know not now you can look and you can see for yourself.
01:46:48.000You can see what's really going on but You know, of course a year ago when everybody's fucking taking turns stabbing them stabbing me in the back and they're leaking all my shit I have no way to defend myself.
01:47:02.000Really, you know all these people that I trusted for years.
01:47:08.000I trust them with my life, I employ them, and they fucking lie to my face.
01:47:14.000And then they take turns stabbing me in the back because I didn't do enough for them.
01:47:19.000And I can't trust anybody, they're leaking my group chats, they're leaking everything, every unguarded moment I've had in private.
01:47:26.000Now for public consumption, out of context, for people to judge.
01:47:31.000And at that time, you know, there's no way to counterattack because it's a sneak attack.
01:47:35.000It's a sneaky, cowardly, treacherous surprise attack.
01:47:41.000You know, and that's the nature of these things, and it's a big hit, and you know, a lot of people believe this shit, and that's followed me for over a year.
01:47:50.000But then of course, a year later, after it marinates a little while, then we start to see the hypocrisy, the double standards.
01:47:57.000Then the other receipts from the other side come out.
01:47:59.000Then we start to see what's going on, and it's like, oh, okay.
01:48:03.000So wait a second, so you're a total fucking hypocrite, and you're doing the same stuff that I was accused of, which I didn't even do, and you're doing it in a worse way, and turns out you have no scruples, and you don't even care, and all that shit was a lie anyway, and you just had an ax to grind, clearly.
01:48:24.000But at that point, everybody's moved on, and it becomes so, it becomes so self-referential, and so, um,
01:48:33.000Arduous that most people don't even give a shit.
01:48:36.000So a year ago they do to do the headline.
01:48:38.000Oh Nick Fuentes sucks Read all about it well 15 months later Nobody reads about oh, well then this have been this this this this Nick Fuentes exonerated his enemies are total pieces of shit, you know, nobody reads that part That's just how it goes.
01:50:25.000That I didn't give him a raise, and just stabbed me in the back, stabbed me in the back, stabbed me in the back, over a period of years, lying to my face, lying to my face.
01:50:34.000And I didn't trust him, and I remember distinctly, and you know, it was the night of AFPAC 2, Paul Gosar invited us to a brunch the next day,
01:50:48.000I don't know who set it up, but somebody set it up.
01:50:51.000And Assistant Kruiper said, well, you can rest in.
01:52:08.000and it's just like you know for whatever reason i don't you know and what's even what's even the charge it's like people just absolutely stab me in the back because that's all that it's just like a total backstab just like you know and what's the excuse even like oh like he was mean to me
01:52:32.000So now I'm gonna break my word and now everything's fair game or whatever.
01:52:46.000I don't know, for people that are following all that, for a lot of you probably don't even know any of the drama, but for people that are following it, sick.
01:54:07.000I remember John Doyle, when me and John Doyle met up in June 22, he told me, well, you've been kicked out of all your friendships, blah, blah, blah.
01:54:16.000It's like, I'm sorry, don't you support the president?
01:54:18.000Isn't this the same question the president just got a week ago?
01:54:21.000Didn't Brett Baier just ask him about, oh Pompeo and your press secretary and this one and Haley and Chris Christie and that one and that one and that one?
01:54:32.000And the point is, when you're in a high-pressure environment, when you're a political dissident,
01:54:37.000You're in a maximum pressure situation and yeah, people will betray you.
01:54:42.000It's a very common occurrence because it turns out that when the rubber meets the road and it's about people's ass on the line, they will look out for themselves.
01:55:10.000They didn't actually have allegiance to him in the first place, and that's why nobody would second-guess Trump throwing all these people under the bus, because we're there for him, we're not there for them.
01:55:21.000And we recognize that all these people rode his coattails into the White House or whatever, and they supported him when it was convenient, and then when the DOJ came down or whatever, they threw him under the bus to save their own skin.
01:59:17.000You bring a white presenting Jewish woman home and you guys sit down on the couch in the living room to watch a movie.
01:59:23.000You choose Puss in Boots again for the 88th time.
01:59:27.000While you guys are watching the movie she peers over to the other couch and there sits the moon man plushie and she starts sweating nervously for some reason.
01:59:39.000What's, oh sorry, what's the punchline?
02:02:52.000The thought of Victor Sharpe spending $5,000 on lawyer fees to investigate things Paul Towne said about Victor's sugar baby and Beardson's live chat is so funny to me.
02:03:01.000Like imagine trying to explain that to a lawyer.
02:03:37.000I grew up with these guys it's like you can't you can't make me not like them because they're like that they're like when you're growing up in the neighborhood and there's like an older kid who's like legendary he's like the captain of the football team that's like who they are for me so I can't you know I can never I always have a place in my heart because that's loyalty I'm loyal I'm loyal to a fault that's what people don't realize you know
02:04:10.000Cuz that, that to me is the most important thing.
02:04:48.000I took a religious studies class last semester, the professor was Muslim.
02:04:53.000He was pro-theism in general but he liked to talk about how Islam is revolutionary because it was the first religion to refer to itself as a religion.
02:06:00.000It is so cool of you to allow all the other cozy streamers like Big Tech to rebroadcast your entire show live on CozyTV and the Kik streaming platform simultaneously like he is doing tonight.
02:07:27.000He started out as, like, a fan, then became a critic, then became this, like... Then joined up with this community of people in the last year that are just, like, obsessed with taking me out.
02:07:40.000So, I'm not gonna say that it's totally equal.
02:07:43.000Uh, because, you know, I do my own thing.
02:07:47.000Then people get obsessed with me and attack me.
02:09:35.000And he, in his mind, he's like telling himself, well I'm attacking Nick because of my principles.
02:09:41.000I'm attacking Nick because of my principles.
02:09:43.000And these people are all attacking me basically because they're nihilists.
02:09:48.000You know, and then RPG, I don't know all the lore, but he goes out of line a little bit, and then they start attacking him, and they're all hypocrites, and they're all contradicting themselves.
02:10:58.000It's like oh go figure all these freaks have no loyalty to each other all these people that are literally traitors, you know, like They have no loyalty and all these people that gossip for a living don't actually care about building anything
02:12:15.000And so for that, and because of what he said today, you know, honestly, while saying that he hit first and he's really caused a lot of headache for the last couple years, I forgive him.
02:12:28.000I forgive him if he wants to move on, you know, then water to the bridge as far as I'm concerned.
02:12:35.000Because that's what it's really about.
02:14:15.000And I admire the fact that he actually has some introspection to just say like, yeah, you know, I don't want to fight anymore.
02:14:23.000This is, this is like obviously not, we're obviously hypocrites here, and this is kind of silly.
02:14:30.000It's like, yeah, that's kind of what I've been waiting to hear for a long, long, long time from this freak crowd.
02:14:38.000So, uh, I don't know if I give him a cozy channel, but I talked to him.
02:14:43.000I probably talked to him And he was right about baked Alaska, you know, he called that I'm sure from the outside looking in RPG thought of himself as someone who's a serious guy who's wants to make a contribution and then he sees this guy baked Alaska is just a shithead and
02:15:02.000And him being somebody who's invested in the success of America First, and me, was like, hey Nick, I love you, but this Baked Alaska guy's just not serious.
02:15:12.000And I was like, oh shut up, you're a retard.
02:15:14.000And I'm sure he, I'm sure he felt very resentful.
02:15:17.000He's like, you know, here I am, a serious guy with a good work ethic, who has put himself out there, and I'm donating money and blah blah blah,
02:15:29.000And I'm getting pushed aside for this goof?
02:15:44.000And you could see how somebody could feel that way, and that doesn't make it rational, but you could see how, you know, him being personally invested like that,
02:15:57.000That could become an indictment of the whole thing.
02:15:59.000Now, obviously it is, because Baked Alaska was never really part of this.
02:16:02.000He always was doing his own thing, as he reminded me often.
02:16:06.000Except for when he wanted something from me.
02:16:07.000When he wanted something from me, we were all on the same team.
02:16:10.000When I asked him for something, well, you know, he's his own man.
02:16:51.000Um, you know, but I could see how RPG felt very offended by that.
02:16:57.000Because he does have a good work ethic, he puts himself out there, he does care about politics, and he's not just obsessed with drama and gossip, he does care about politics.
02:17:08.000And so I can actually, in retrospect, I can see where he's coming from.
02:17:13.000And I can see how, you know, he puts out a super chat that says, you know, fuck baked.
02:20:37.000It's just not good to pay attention to.
02:20:38.000I've been following the RPG saga for obvious reasons, because that's been a lot of fun.
02:21:02.000Uh, but I just stopped paying attention to all that after the A thing.
02:21:05.000It's sort of like, you meet the president and he loves you, you meet your hero and he loves you, and then you're just, you know, I don't really care what other people think anymore.
02:21:12.000Honestly though, after that happens, you're kind of like, okay, like, I won.
02:23:43.000I really, um... I don't have any ill will.
02:23:47.000Even these people who hate, like... You have to understand, RPG has been, like, shitting on me every day for years.
02:23:54.000And I know he's just done me a big favor by releasing all this stuff, but I could very easily make him look like an asshole and come on the show and say, ha, you got what you deserved, you idiot, blah blah blah.
02:24:44.000Oh, you know this person You know I have to defend myself I have to fight people that attack me, but it's you know But if it all just disappeared that would be my preference