00:00:35.000We got to take care of our mothers, don't we?
00:00:37.000I mean, we treat our mothers in this country worse than we treat illegal immigrants these days, and it's not going to happen anymore, folks.
00:00:44.000So just a small little health scare, but everything's okay.
00:02:28.000So I don't know about you, but when I look at the two candidates, looking at Jones, the Democrat, I think that that guy is the type of guy that needs to be a block closer to the future of the Republican Party than what we.
00:03:13.000I think Connor Lamb should be the model for what the Republican Party.
00:03:17.000Should look like, ideally, it should have looked like this this year.
00:03:20.000Maybe that was an unreasonable expectation that the party should have completely transformed by Donald Trump from the inside out in a year.
00:03:29.000That is the future of the Republican Party.
00:03:31.000That's the only future of any viable Republican Party because you look at the electoral map, and we need 270 electoral votes to win a presidential election.
00:03:42.000We need 51, 52 senators to have a majority in the Senate or a good majority in the Senate.
00:03:48.000And there simply are not enough states that Republicans can control using the George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan platform.
00:03:55.000There just simply aren't enough states.
00:04:02.000You don't even come close if you are not incorporating the white working class.
00:04:06.000You don't come close if you're not incorporating and you're not specifically appealing to white voters.
00:04:11.000But even with Donald Trump, you are barely hanging on by a thread, even if you do that, even if you do have a more working class message, even if you do tone down some of the religious, some of the ideological zealotry.
00:04:22.000You know, we look at Donald Trump's electoral map and the states that swung the election Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida.
00:04:29.000Those are in terms of Pennsylvania and Michigan, those we won by a thread.
00:04:34.000In terms of Florida, Arizona, and some of these other ones, Texas, even Georgia, those are not going to be around forever, certainly not in two or three decades.
00:04:44.000So the Republican Party has to look at the electoral map long and hard and see where are the places we can win.
00:04:50.000And the answer is the Midwest, the Rust Belt, industrial states, rural states, Western states.
00:04:55.000And the way to do that is economic nationalism.
00:04:58.000That's what Steve Bannon talked about.
00:05:02.000But this has been widely accepted by many people that this is the path forward for electoral politics.
00:05:08.000Now, you could be whatever you want once you get into a position of governance.
00:05:11.000You could be whatever you'd like once you actually get into a position of power.
00:05:15.000The economic nationalism can be implicit for other things, but that's the only messaging in an election year that's going to pull you the electoral vote.
00:05:23.000So I agree, Conor Lamb, that's the kind of guy we need.
00:05:29.000And then for the guys listening out here, to make this happen, you're really going to have to participate because.
00:05:36.000The Ben Shapiro types, they're going to be participating and they're just going to lose for you probably every time going forward if you don't do something about it.
00:06:57.000So, at my school, there's this class where basically everybody looks for jobs that they want to be in in the future.
00:07:04.000How do we start to have women become homemakers instead of going out to college, which is somewhat good?
00:07:11.000How do we start to get them into the household instead of finding jobs?
00:07:16.000Well, I think unfortunately, the institutions are not going to do us any favors, right?
00:07:21.000I mean, you look at middle and high school, even elementary school, you look at college, you look at the media, culture, and just about every institutional force in the country, cultural, political, and otherwise, is pushing women and pushing them hard to get into the workforce.
00:07:36.000Pushing them hard in the sense that they're not saying it's good that you get in the workforce, you're really terrific if you get in the workforce.
00:07:42.000They're saying if you don't get in the workforce, you're pathetic, you're oppressed.
00:07:52.000And so, unfortunately, I don't think institutionally there's a whole lot we can do about that in the short term.
00:07:58.000That said, there is something that all of us can do, which is we men have to set the tone.
00:08:04.000I think women, nine times out of 10, if men set the tone, they will meet us there in the sense that your girlfriend, your wife, you say, you know, look, if we're going to get married, the reason we want to get married, the reason marriage exists is so that you and me can procreate, we can start a family, and the only way to raise a family is.
00:08:23.000The only way, in my opinion, to have a really good, stable marriage is for you to stay home and take care of the kids.
00:08:28.000And, you know, look, we're in this transitional process.
00:08:42.000There are a lot of studies that say that actually, two income households actually make less money effectively because you incur more expenses.
00:08:50.000You have daycare, you have other cars, other insurances, other things.
00:08:54.000But at the end of the day, you're making marginally more money.
00:08:57.000But Still, you know, if you need two incomes, whatever.
00:09:00.000If mom wants to have a part time job, we really don't like that, but it's not the end of the world.
00:09:06.000And if she wants to work before the kids or after the kids, I think that could be negotiated.
00:09:10.000But at the end of the day, it's up to individual men to say, you know what, look, I'm going to be providing, I'm going to be making the money, and you should be making the money.
00:09:18.000And you should say, you know, you're going to have to be at home raising the kids.
00:09:21.000These are the conditions for marriage.
00:09:28.000I think if we man up, if we set the standard, I think they'll meet us halfway.
00:09:33.000Because I think there's a lot of women out there who want this.
00:09:35.000I think deep down, women want to be freed of this expectation that they should work.
00:09:41.000And it's tough because a lot of women feel very strongly about it, but I think that's the only way because you're not going to see it from the institutions anytime soon.
00:09:49.000Not an optimistic answer, but it's a tough one.
00:10:55.000It's nice to finally call in, kind of have a chat here.
00:10:59.000I'm sure you've heard with the whole Donald Trump Jr. Vanessa thing going on, kind of on a more sad note, I guess, and with the media, you know, playing it up and stuff and kind of doing their usual thing of, oh, was it because of that or because of his horrible tweets and whatnot?
00:11:15.000So I just want to get your thoughts on that.
00:11:17.000Like, how do you think, what effect is that really going to have?
00:11:20.000Because I know, you know, the media obviously is going to try to play it some way.
00:11:25.000Yeah, to be quite honest, I'm not sure.
00:11:29.000I imagine, I would imagine, I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I would imagine that specifically with the Trumps.
00:11:35.000Rich, politically connected, powerful, and it looked like it was an amicable enough divorce.
00:11:41.000You know, she didn't come out and make a big scene.
00:11:43.000I would imagine whatever they put together in the divorce, there will be some kind of a nondisclosure clause or agreement or something, something put into the settlement where it'll say, we can't really talk about a lot of this stuff.
00:12:17.000You know, if you compare it to what was said a month before the election in the bus about, you know, grab him by the you know what, I think the Trump's, you know, Trump's kids' divorce, I don't think that'll be too effective.
00:13:51.000About the Vanessa Trump thing, it's really tough because they were just in a situation, which I think had something to do with the divorce, where Vanessa and Don Jr.'s kid, she was the one that got sent the white powder in the mail.
00:15:50.000Well, I think that's a story that we hear a lot around the country and especially with these protests.
00:15:56.000I've certainly heard people who, not even people who debated or people who said something, but even people who just simply refused to leave the classroom have gotten suspended or gotten detention.
00:16:07.000I heard this with a lot of people people who brought signs with an opposite message, people who wore their MAGA hats.
00:16:16.000I can only imagine what would happen if I were in high school when this happened or if I were involved with one of these protests.
00:16:23.000And it just goes to show this is what, this is kind of why I think we have to have guerrilla tactics because you understand that the government subsidizes, the government supports the left.
00:16:35.000You know, the left gets so much leeway in terms of public sector money, in terms of public sector institutions, where this was a left wing political protest and it was supported.
00:16:45.000By the public school system, which receives taxpayer money, by teachers who are paid for by taxpayer money, principals, institutions paid for by taxpayer money.
00:16:55.000Could you even conceive of a comparable protest or demonstration taking place for a right wing cause?
00:18:21.000By the same token, it wouldn't be good optics because they'd be there giving a moment of silence for dead kids and, you know, Nick driving through in the Mustang blasting the horn.
00:19:08.000And so, kind of going back to what you were just talking about the left getting so much money, I wanted to get your thoughts on academia.
00:19:15.000Like, I don't know if some people, it's hard for people who might not be in there, like, or trying to get grants for money for anything right wing.
00:19:42.000They talk about academia as sort of this new religious institution that basically sets the tone for the society in the same way that the church used to, in the same way that other repository institutions used to do.
00:19:54.000And in my experience, I know a lot of people in politics.
00:20:01.000I know people in NGOs and think tanks.
00:20:03.000I know people that work on Capitol Hill.
00:20:05.000And there really is, and even if you study political scientists, they call this.
00:20:09.000The iron triangle of special interests, think tanks, and politicians.
00:20:15.000And you look at how laws are written, you look at what gets pushed into law, and it is the result of a direct pipeline from academia to Washington, D.C. Because a law gets put on the floor of the House or the Senate, it's put on the floor by congressmen.
00:20:30.000Congressmen don't write the laws, they get their interns to write it, or they get it from a corporation, or they get it from a think tank.
00:20:36.000And all these people that are putting the legislation together, that are editing it, reviewing it, That are writing it at every step of the way, whether they're interns, think tanks, whether they're young guys in corporations, all these people come from academia.
00:20:49.000They all come from the top universities.
00:20:51.000And you look at where the laws come from, you look at where the studies come from, the numbers, the people in the Office of Management and Budget, the people that are in all these different places, such as Heritage, Cato, American Enterprise, every single one of them, it's all a pipeline from Princeton, from Harvard, from Yale.
00:21:07.000And of course, those people are taught by the most liberal of liberal professors, even if they're in.
00:21:12.000You know, relatively right wing schools or institutions, or maybe it's a right wing field, or even maybe if they find, you know, somewhat of a center right leaning platform, it tends to be this neoliberal stuff, tends to be this neoconservative stuff.
00:21:45.000And it's so hard to debate these people when they have all these stats and all this money that goes into backing their narrative, and we have basically none of that.
00:21:54.000And even with, you know, Kevin McDonald is a good example of this.
00:21:58.000He wrote the Culture of Critique series.
00:22:00.000And the funny thing is about it is there has not been, there was recently an article, I think, in some intellectual magazine that attempted to refute Kevin McDonald.
00:22:10.000Didn't even come close, but attempted it.
00:22:12.000And it's funny because there really has not been a discourse on issues like.
00:22:16.000The question Kevin McDonald addresses on questions of race realism and all the rest because they don't even touch this stuff, let alone do they talk about the truth, let alone do they really look into the data, let alone do they treat sociobiology or group evolutionary strategies with any kind of intellectual rigor.
00:22:35.000They don't even touch them, they don't even approach them, they don't debate them, they don't let them anywhere near the university.
00:22:40.000You know, I went to Boston U, big library, five stories.
00:22:45.000They don't have any Evola, they don't have any McDonald's, they don't have any of this stuff.
00:23:02.000And a very good question about academia.
00:23:04.000It's one of the central questions for any political movement.
00:23:07.000You know, you wonder why, if it's not left, it's this neoconservative globalist stuff.
00:23:12.000It's because they're using the same people, they're using the same institutions.
00:23:16.000You know, the only right wing thought that has come out of a university for the past 20, 30 or 25 years.
00:23:22.000Is stuff that's gotten the stamp of approval from a Marxist professor, from a Judeo Marxist professor, from some kind of globalist shill.
00:23:31.000So, you know, it's no wonder why all the Paul Ryans of the world and even some of these young conservatives are still so thoroughly indoctrinated with egalitarianism and liberalism.
00:23:41.000It's because they got it from their professors, and none of their professors ever gave them a foundation in right wing or conservatism or any of this other stuff.
00:24:09.000I have a problem with paleoconservatism.
00:24:13.000You say that you want to defend things like traditionalism, you oppose things like gay marriage, transgenderism, also women entering in the workplace, modern feminism, and the like.
00:24:24.000Yet, also, and this is the other key part of paleoconservatism, is that you claim to defend and stand for the capitalist system.
00:24:32.000But, Mr. Fuentes, don't you realize and see that it has been the capitalist system that's been the most progressive force in human history?
00:24:39.000That under liberal bourgeois democracies, all these things that traditionalists don't like have come into being.
00:24:48.000So, how can you both defend capitalism, say you're a free market type of guy, and also defend traditionalism when the two seem to be in direct conflict with each other?
00:25:30.000I think the central claim of capitalism that markets are the best way to economize scarce resources is true.
00:25:37.000That said, I've never described myself as a capitalist, only said that.
00:25:40.000Markets are probably the best way so far discovered to allocate scarce resources.
00:25:44.000Now, that said, I think I would probably describe myself more as a distributist.
00:25:49.000I think that, like many Catholics in the early 20th century, like the church did in the 19th century, I believe that the political economy works when the mass of people have resources, when the mass of people have wealth, when wealth is distributed among lots of people.
00:26:04.000They own a home, they own a car, they have some kind of an income.
00:26:07.000I don't think you could really have a free society or a traditional society when, like you said, we have this progressive force of.
00:26:13.000Creative destruction of things changing and accelerating all the time.
00:26:18.000And there's a very good critique of this written in the Washington Post, I think in 2003, which I was just reading.
00:26:24.000It was called, Is America's Prosperity Going to Ruin It? or something to that effect.
00:26:29.000And so I would not describe myself as a capitalist.
00:26:32.000I would say that we can harness market forces, but with sufficient regulation, with sufficient checks in place to ensure that we have maybe a longer time horizon than capitalism allows.
00:26:46.000I'm not so educated on what the alternative would look like.
00:27:00.000A monetary system that's a lot more restrained.
00:27:03.000Monetary, if you look at monetary, that's a big reason that's driving progressive capitalism, is, you know, for example, fractional reserve banking, quantitative easing.
00:27:11.000So I think there are a lot of things we could do to tamp it down, put this international capitalism, put a lid on it.
00:27:17.000This capitalism that's basically on meth.
00:27:30.000Do you think that the degeneracy that we're seeing in our society, and this is a question I struggle with, and the decline in America, is that an inherent result of, say, advanced market conditions or capitalist conditions, or is it a result of, say, the moral decline in the country?
00:27:46.000So, another way of framing this question is our current state the result of choices that we've made as a society, or is it an inevitable function of the advance of productive forces?
00:27:57.000So, is it determinist or free will in our current state?
00:28:35.000Ben Franklin, they all said similar things in their letters and their writings.
00:28:39.000And so, on the one hand, I would say that it is basically the natural tendency, it is the natural proclivity of people to degenerate towards these kinds of behavior.
00:28:48.000You see it in the big cities, you saw it in Rome, you saw it in Greece.
00:28:52.000But by the same token, I don't think it's inevitable in the sense that we were a prosperous nation in the 1940s, in the 1960s.
00:29:01.000I mean, we were prosperous for a long time.
00:29:05.000And even in Europe, when you had the reign of the Catholic Church and in Britain, when you had the Anglican Church, you had prosperity, you had great wealth, but you also had decency.
00:29:14.000You could look at Victorian England, for example, where maybe the morals weren't great, but at least there was this affect of morality.
00:29:50.000And the reason why I ask these questions is not to troll, but the question of whether or not it's inevitable or not actually goes to the heart of America First and the whole MAGA agenda.
00:30:00.000Because it's like if it's inevitable, then MAGA, you can MAGA as hard as you can, it's just going to fail, right?
00:30:48.000Because, you know, I've been dealing all the past week, I've been dealing, because of certain things I've said, I've been dealing with kind of the lower quartile of the alt right, you know, for the past week.
00:30:59.000You can imagine who we're talking about here.
00:31:02.000So it's very refreshing to hear a really incisive question, a really profound question, one that really challenges me.
00:31:09.000Those are the kinds of questions well put.
00:31:12.000Effective questions that challenge our assumptions about the world and really get us thinking about history, about people.
00:32:07.000Some say it was in over my skis, which I probably was because the guy's an expert.
00:32:10.000And we talked about orthodoxy versus Catholicism.
00:32:13.000But, you know, look, the reason what really holds me back from going orthodox, because I understand the appeal nationalistic, conservative, traditional, a lot of them don't have the same problem of degeneracy, of cucking that you see, you know, with the very publicized Catholic priest scandal, which I thought was BS because.
00:32:32.000If you look at the actual rate of abuse, it was much lower than any other institution in the world or equal or lower.
00:32:38.000But I understand it because we do hear a lot of this stuff about Catholics being very liberal and socially liberal and open immigration.
00:32:45.000But what always holds me back from going Orthodox is because I don't believe it's true.
00:32:52.000And I think that's what makes it different.
00:32:54.000I think if you read the gospel and you read what Christ says, he builds his church on the rock, which is St. Peter, and he changes Peter's name.
00:33:02.000His name was Simon, and he changed his name to Peter, which was a pun, which meant rock.
00:33:39.000We recognize the primacy, the supremacy of Rome.
00:33:43.000And I think it comes down to that theological distinction.
00:33:45.000I don't think it could be made based on the superficial stuff.
00:33:48.000You know, I mean, like, at the end of the day, we're not Christian because we believe it's helpful for our cause or useful for political ends, temporal means.
00:39:56.000Characters from an anime, I forget which show, but anyway, but what I wanted to say, I wanted to respond to a few things first is about the Orthodox versus Catholic thing.
00:40:13.000So I forget, I think it was G.K. Chesterton who said that the Orthodox and the Protestant are more similar than the Orthodox and the Catholic because both base their Whole belief around opposition to Rome.
00:40:29.000So I think it was Chesterton who said that, but I'm not quite sure.
00:40:34.000And secondly, also the Orthodox have some other theological differences from the church, such as they have a difference in the Nicene Creed, which is, I think, different than the Catholic version.
00:40:49.000Anyway, and then as for alternatives to capitalism, well, Francisco Franco, after the Spanish Civil War, he implemented A form of corporatism,
00:41:03.000which isn't like rule by corporation, but it's like I haven't really looked closely into it, but I believe it's like groups of industries work together in their various fields to build the economy.
00:41:30.000And so that was what helped create the Spanish miracle after World War II.
00:41:35.000Which really allowed Spain to really bounce back after the Civil War.
00:41:46.000Okay, well, I mean, there's also other things like, I don't know, they're kind of more esoteric things like distributism, which is endorsed by the Catholic Church as an economic practice.
00:42:02.000But anyway, there are alternatives, but a lot of these alternatives have been.
00:42:10.000Like pushed to the wayside because neoliberalist capitalism really just became standard for most countries following World War II.
00:42:58.000Well, I mean, I saw an article on Politico, I think, about how the Trump administration was going back to, I think it was one of the earlier proposals with money for the wall in return for amnesty for DACA.
00:43:17.000And a lot of, and some people were getting kind of angry about that.
00:48:23.000Talking about us and saying, oh, you guys are going to make so much change trying to infiltrate the GOP and make real change.
00:48:33.000And I feel like you need to reiterate for these people just one more time, just beat them over the head with it one more time about how being realistic and playing the system that we have access to is the only way forward.
00:48:47.000That this Turner Diary BS is just sad.
00:49:13.000But the reason why there is no change outside of the system, outside of the institutions that we have, just because, I mean, you think about what it would take, what the alternative would be.
00:49:26.000And you're talking about overthrowing the United States government, right?
00:49:52.000These are the only states with a regional identity, you know, because you think about it in terms of, The only states that have ever talked about secession are states with their own unique regional identity.
00:50:02.000And in the year of globalization, 200 and some years, 300 and some years after the Confederacy, after you had real regionalism, real federalism, Illinois doesn't have a state identity.
00:50:14.000Indiana doesn't have a regional identity.
00:50:30.000So, the only, and besides the point, not saying that just other options are bad options, but the options in front of us are so much easier than that.
00:50:38.000It is so much easier to reform a system than to destroy and then remake a new one.
00:50:43.000I mean, think of what is in front of us.
00:50:45.000We have a population that elected Donald Trump, somebody who said illegals are drugs, they're bringing drugs and crime and rapists, ban all Muslims.
00:50:55.000We already have a pretty great place to start from.
00:51:07.000White people are tired of the anti white stuff.
00:51:10.000There is a real counter revolution forming, and we have to solidify the institutions.
00:51:15.000I don't think, you know, how many people are going to go and volunteer for a campaign versus how many people are going to go and volunteer for Commander Heimbach's army, you know, right?
00:52:55.000I think you might have not thought about this, but Matt Heimbach actually fell for that meme, and he took it way too far, and he actually destroyed his entire movement, his family.
00:53:04.000Well, it was kind of like a mommy in law GF meme, but same thing applies, you know?
00:53:17.000I mean, look, I would never have a mommy GF.
00:53:20.000Not really, unless it's like Marion Le Pen or, you know, I'm a young guy, so I have the fortuity of, you know, like, Some of these women are a little bit older, so they're like de facto mommy.
00:53:29.000Even if they're younger, they're still mommy to me.
00:55:01.000I was so mad when we got into that silly drama that lasted for a couple of months because it was over some ridiculous Twitter argument, and then he fired me from IE, and whatever.
00:55:12.000But I'm so glad we became friends again because when I met him, I genuinely did like him.
00:55:17.000I met him and it was at Spencer's place, and I was like, okay, here's an adult in the room.
00:55:23.000Here's somebody who seems serious and mature.
00:55:43.000Yeah, no, that was really progressive of him.
00:55:45.000I thought that was really, you know, I always liked him before, but when he let that disabled kid get up and speak at IE, and I'm sure that was a labor of love, but when I saw him get up there and, you know, pat him on the back and really be encouraging, that really melted my heart to see that kid who had Down syndrome, God bless him, get up there.
00:56:07.000And it was like Make a Wish Foundation.
00:57:30.000I'm finally glad I get to call in because I'm usually either working on Fridays or I'm out getting food with friends or something and I forget.
00:57:38.000But just want to stop on by and say I'm trying to make a faction in Hearts of Iron 4 with Oswald Mosley right now.
01:00:24.000Anyways, my question was I basically wanted to ask you what advice you would give to those supporting the movement, but like not openly, etc., and how women, like girlfriends, sisters, daughters, etc., can do their part.
01:01:28.000But yeah, so I think that the rhetoric against us, maybe if it's a joke or whatever, it's fine as a joke.
01:01:35.000But I think alienating women from the movement, especially when they are trying their best to be supportive of the movement, like we have our shortcomings, et cetera, I think it's counterproductive.
01:02:01.000But the thing is, you got to understand there is this very prevalent bias, maybe indoctrination among women, where there is a lot of ground to recover here, where maybe we should be more patient with women.
01:02:17.000But I don't think maybe we could be tolerant of women.
01:02:20.000In practice, but intolerant of feminism in principle, if that makes sense.
01:02:25.000In the sense that women are trying to get over and we should be patient with them, but we should never give an inch on feminism.
01:02:33.000And I think that's where the lines get blurred.
01:02:34.000People really detest feminism, and we have to show our women a little bit of patience because they're trying, and the ones that are trying, we got to show them the way.
01:06:19.000For national security, for job mobility, for all kinds of things, we have to have a manufacturing base.
01:06:25.000It's a big myth that free traders like to push or peddle.
01:06:28.000That we can purely be a service economy, that we could purely be a finished products economy where we don't have to make any raw materials, we don't have to do any manufacturing or industry, we could just do the service and the finished product stuff where we get all the parts and we put them together and you get your stuff.
01:06:44.000And the reason being is because it actually matters who produces things in the world.
01:06:48.000It really matters who produces things in the world.
01:06:51.000It matters in a national security sense.
01:06:53.000You know, if you look at World War II or World War I, where Britain got themselves into this horrible war, a very difficult war.
01:07:01.000And they had to outsource their production of clothing, of tanks, of bullets, all kinds of things to the United States.
01:07:06.000We were famously the arsenal of democracy.
01:07:08.000You know, that was the vaunted propaganda and rhetoric.
01:07:13.000We should be producing things that we need.
01:07:16.000But number two, it matters because we are now a debtor nation because of this.
01:07:19.000Alexander Hamilton, many of the bankers in our country's history, set us on a good financial place when the country was founded so that we would be a creditor nation.
01:07:30.000We look at where we are now, and it's kind of become a meme that, like, oh, China owns us.
01:07:36.000About 50% of public debt is held by American citizens, the other half is.
01:07:41.000Held internationally, and a percentage of that is China.
01:07:44.000By the same token, when you have a trade deficit, what we give in exchange for goods and services is we give currency, we give debt, and we give assets.
01:07:54.000And if you want to be giving away the whole house to other foreign countries, a lot of them are rivals, a lot of them people we want to leverage against, it's not a good idea.
01:08:02.000And people will say, oh, well, tariffs, they pass on the cost to the consumer.
01:08:08.000Well, you look at, for example, the steel and aluminum tariffs, and they calculated.
01:08:14.000That the cost of these tariffs on, for example, a can of soup on a regular consumer good would be three tenths of a penny, three tenths of one cent would be the cost.
01:08:40.000And not to mention, we were a tariff nation, we were a protectionist nation.
01:08:46.000During the Industrial Revolution, when America saw its greatest economic rise, we were under tariffs.
01:08:52.000America funded its federal government 90% with tariffs from the time of the founding until 1913, I believe, when the 16th Amendment was passed, which allowed for the income tax.
01:09:05.000But yeah, Peter Schiff mentioned that.
01:09:08.000He said the tariffs were like, maybe not unanimously, don't quote me on that one, but they were voted out in favor of the income tax.
01:09:20.000Why did that happen if the tariffs were shifted?
01:09:24.000If you look at the original income tax, if you look at when it was passed in the 1910s, the original income tax bore no resemblance to the income tax today in the sense that only the richest of the rich were getting taxed and they were getting taxed at a pretty moderate rate.
01:09:40.000And regardless, that didn't supply the majority of the money.
01:09:43.000I think tariffs are a far more effective way to fund the government.
01:09:47.000Again, through the Industrial Revolution, and even additionally, here's a better example because.
01:10:57.000My pastor, because I wanted to learn much.
01:11:01.000Because I'm a Baptist, and that name has been quite sullied by the recent Southern Baptist losers that hold not to our traditions and any of our perpetuity, you could say.
01:11:22.000I'm currently attempting, I'm not a good reader, to read Baptist Church Perpetuity by W.A. Gerald.
01:12:04.000I mean, I understand there's different denominations and everyone follows what they believe is right.
01:12:10.000And I'm not going to like counter signal you in that way.
01:12:14.000But I personally can't like make the argument yet, but I'm going to attempt to do my best as I read these books because the Baptists do have quite a history.
01:12:27.000And I don't, and it goes farther back than the 1600s, it does go back to 77 AD.
01:12:36.000There was a record of a Welsh princess that met Paul.
01:13:56.000I think if you look at the history of Baptism, I think you look at the history of Protestantism, all other sects, all other denominations are contingent on Catholicism.
01:14:06.000If you don't have Catholicism, you can't have the others.
01:14:08.000That's not the case in the reverse, right?
01:14:11.000The Catholic Church is not contingent.
01:22:32.000He had said, and I think this is kind of the overarching theme of the article, is that the movement has gotten way ahead of itself and what it's trying to do.
01:22:47.000I was wondering if you kind of see what he's talking about there, if you kind of agree with that, specifically with like what TWP was doing about taking the streets and that sort of thing.
01:22:57.000Like, what do you think as far as the movement getting ahead of itself and where to go from here after the break apart of the hard right?
01:23:18.000You look at the objectives of a lot of these people where, you know, trying to take the streets and the protests and the rallies, and it was so ahead of itself in terms of.
01:23:30.000It did not give the movement time to grow organically.
01:23:34.000You have to imagine that these movements take time.
01:23:37.000The Tea Party didn't come out of nowhere.
01:23:40.000The neoconservative movement didn't come out of nowhere.
01:23:43.000The modern left didn't come out of nowhere.
01:23:45.000It took years and years of infiltration, of subversion, taking over the institutions, maturing, collecting money, getting people involved, refining the message, and all the rest.
01:24:19.000Yeah, I completely agree with you, too.
01:24:21.000And one other small point he makes is to not throw your life away in a big protest and go and join either your college or your military, your local Republican Party.
01:24:31.000Is this kind of what you're saying when you're talking about reforming and that sort of thing?
01:24:38.000We are a much stronger movement if we have a thousand Republican committeemen and Republican think tank apparatchiks and Republican professors and businessmen, lawyers, than we do a thousand blacklisted, radioactive, unemployed street people.
01:24:59.000Because there was an 18 year old kid who was in TWP who I talked to very recently.
01:25:03.000I had to drive him to a meeting we were doing.
01:25:06.000And this kid, he just recently turned 18.
01:25:08.000And two weeks ago, He got a traditionalist worker party tattoo over his heart.
01:25:13.000And so I was thinking about, like, now that the TWP is gone, I'm like, I'm thinking a lot of these elements in the movement almost operate like cults in that they tell these kids to completely dox themselves and throw their lives away.
01:25:27.000And he was going to go live on the TWP compound and all that.
01:25:31.000And I was thinking, like, this seems like a very destructive, very cult like behavior for, especially for a lot of young kids.
01:25:40.000You know, you're young and I'm young, and so I know that it happens to a lot of people.
01:28:48.000The Kalergi Plan is one of several of these supranational European schemes, basically to introduce mass migration, to form a supranational government, and do all these things.
01:29:01.000It's just like what was the other plan that was started in Germany around the same time where they were going to bring in the Africans and the Asians and all the rest.
01:29:09.000I forget there was another plan very similar to it, but I mean, you see a lot of this.
01:29:12.000And of course, who are the authors of the plans?
01:29:42.000Critical theory, the Frankfurt School, cultural Marxism, it's all the same beast.
01:29:46.000Yeah, critical theory, which was initiated by the Frankfurt School, which was a colloquial way to describe this school of social theory that started in Frankfurt, Germany in the 1930s.
01:29:59.000They were all Jews, so they got kicked out of Nazi Germany in the 30s.
01:30:03.000And they came over to Columbia University in the United States, and that's where they promulgated their theories on critical theory, on some other things, which was formed the Intellectual foundations and infrastructure for this progressive radical leftism that we see today.
01:30:19.000So, do your research, Frankfurt School.
01:32:01.000Polybius says, role of philosophy in society and must read texts.
01:32:05.000Well, the must reads are on my website.
01:32:07.000I have a top 10 list of the must reads.
01:32:09.000And some of them, some are better than others, but they're all pretty good starter books.
01:32:15.000And the role of philosophy, you have to have it.
01:32:17.000Philosophy is the most important thing.
01:32:19.000People don't realize it, but philosophy of the mind, of epistemology, of all kinds of things, ontology, that sets the tone for everything else.
01:32:29.000Philosophy that undergirds the different civilizations, different philosophies of history, of epistemology, of ontology, of metaphysics, and they all underwrite these broad differences in political theory, in day to day life, and all the rest.
01:32:47.000One of the biggest things that we've gotten away from is philosophical realism.
01:32:51.000You see the antecedents of a lot of leftist thought in the departure from philosophical realism in favor of things like materialism and others.
01:33:01.000Philosophical realism says that there is an objective reality that we all inhabit, that even in the absence of observers, even in the absence of relative different observations or perspectives, there is one objective place that we all inhabit.
01:33:15.000And that's a very important thing as a basis for what we think about each other, what we think about civilization, man, and all the rest.
01:33:23.000And the materialists say, or relativists say, well, no, well, there's no soul or anything, and we're all just, it's all relative, it's all based on perspective.
01:33:31.000And materialists is a little bit more about.
01:33:34.000The immaterial and spirits and relativism is more with regards to realism.
01:33:39.000But regardless of the technical language, you understand that it plays an important function.
01:33:45.000Pagan goddess says, Will you marry a Scandinavian woman?
01:33:56.000I have to get an Italian woman who's going to make me Gabagul, who's going to make me, you know, as they say, it's going to make me my pasta fagiu, who's going to make me.
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