America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Separate the Kids NOW | America First Ep. 183

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00:01:02.000 Anyway, but we are going to be talking tonight, all night, about the children.

00:01:07.000 The children.

00:01:09.000 That are being separated from their families at the border.

00:01:13.000 No, no.

00:01:16.000 People come across the border illegally and then it doesn't work out the way they thought it would.

00:01:20.000 Terrible.

00:01:21.000 So, we're going to be talking about that.

00:01:23.000 There's a lot to say about it, there's really a lot to get into, a lot of angles to explore.

00:01:29.000 And fundamentally, it's something that we talk a lot about on the show, which is responsibility.

00:01:36.000 You know, all day long we talk about on the show whether it's abortion, Whether it's mass incarceration, whether it's health care, taxes, or immigration, it all comes down to who is responsible for the suffering.

00:01:51.000 So, we're going to take, I think, a pretty nuanced look, a pretty sophisticated look that is the whole truth.

00:01:59.000 I think it's pretty much the most context that you're going to get in this conversation when you have crying kids.

00:02:06.000 It's such a pain when you have to dodge and try and walk on eggshells about it.

00:02:10.000 But I think we're going to hit it.

00:02:12.000 The right way on the show tonight.

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00:05:13.000 But with that out of the way, we got to talk about.

00:05:16.000 I've been waiting all day to talk about this.

00:05:19.000 These are my favorite issues.

00:05:20.000 They're my favorite topics because so few people are willing to say what needs to be said.

00:05:27.000 But I am.

00:05:28.000 I am because I am a smart person.

00:05:32.000 We have this situation now, which has been metastasizing for about a week.

00:05:37.000 A little bit less than a week, which is, of course, the separation of illegal immigrant children from their parents.

00:05:45.000 And this came out of nowhere.

00:05:47.000 If you've been paying attention to the news, it was, you never heard about it last week.

00:05:52.000 And then all of a sudden, it's on every cable network, it's all over the radio, it's all over, it's everywhere, it's all over the internet, social media.

00:06:01.000 And you look at the coverage, and you don't even have to take my word for it.

00:06:05.000 If you look at the statistics about the coverage, almost all the coverage, Is emotions.

00:06:11.000 It's always a plea to emotions.

00:06:13.000 If you go on Media Eight, I believe if you look at the numbers there, I'm sorry, maybe it's not Media Eight.

00:06:19.000 I think I saw this number on Daily Caller, but some absurd amount of the coverage is just like audio of children crying, or it's people saying, This is a humanitarian disaster.

00:06:30.000 It's so sad, and all the rest.

00:06:32.000 And don't get me wrong.

00:06:33.000 I mean, there is a place for humanitarian concern in all areas of policy not to be negated, but when we make decisions, That impacts the country on a national level.

00:06:46.000 We have to use our brains, not our hearts.

00:06:49.000 And this is something I told Patrick Little about.

00:06:52.000 This is the big contention that there was there.

00:06:54.000 For people on the left this time, they may feel really bad that people are being separated.

00:06:59.000 Hey, people on the right might even feel bad.

00:07:01.000 You see the videos, you see the clips and the audio.

00:07:05.000 And of course, the people who play it are very pernicious because all of this is by design, all of this is manipulating you to support open borders.

00:07:14.000 We can understand why people might feel compassionate towards children. 1.00

00:07:19.000 Because although the immigrants brought them here, although they really didn't have a lot of agency, they're helpless, right? 1.00

00:07:25.000 And so we may feel bad. 0.79

00:07:27.000 But of course, when we make these big decisions that impact a nation, that impact 330 million people and their descendants, we can't give in simply to the emotions.

00:07:39.000 So this show is going to be basically the Ben Shapiro show.

00:07:42.000 It's going to be the facts don't care about your feelings show.

00:07:45.000 As it pertains to child separation.

00:07:48.000 And I approach it basically like a sociopath.

00:07:51.000 I think that's how you have to, to a degree.

00:07:53.000 That's a loaded phrase, maybe a little too loaded, but I mean, I think you know what I mean by that.

00:07:58.000 And so the first observation I make when we look at this is that this is astroturfed.

00:08:04.000 What do I mean it's astroturfed?

00:08:05.000 This came out of nowhere, and there's a reason for it.

00:08:08.000 It was by design.

00:08:09.000 This is top down.

00:08:11.000 It wasn't that all of a sudden you had a big problem with children being separated, and there was a public outcry, and the journalists who are on the ground heard about this and reported it.

00:08:22.000 No, of course not.

00:08:23.000 This came from the top down.

00:08:25.000 This came from the Democrats.

00:08:27.000 The Democrats.

00:08:28.000 This came from the media.

00:08:29.000 This came from the system.

00:08:31.000 And the point of this is to frame the immigration conversation.

00:08:36.000 Because you look at the progress on the immigration bills, whether it's the Goodlot bill or it's the Paul Ryan bill, and Donald Trump has backed the Democrats into a corner where they're heading into the midterms.

00:08:47.000 And Donald Trump is saying, look, you can have reasonable border security and even have your DACA, or you could just not come to the negotiating table and you'll have nothing at all.

00:08:58.000 And so, had they allowed that framing, Remain in place for the election, it's a remarkably weak hand.

00:09:04.000 How could they defend that to Democrats saying we're doing our job, we're doing what we can to protect DACA recipients and all the rest?

00:09:11.000 We are a viable party when they can't protect the DACA kids.

00:09:15.000 And how could they tell anybody else that they are really trying to solve the problem if there's a bill that has protections for DACA kids on the, or I'm sorry, not DACA kids, DACA people, most of them are the average age is 24, so they're not really kids.

00:09:28.000 People always get on me for that.

00:09:30.000 Talking fast, you say the wrong thing, that's okay.

00:09:33.000 But how could they say that they did everything they could to protect the Democratic constituency, which is Hispanics, which is the DACA recipients, when there was a bill on the table that had protections? 0.64

00:09:44.000 They can't.

00:09:45.000 So, the long and short of it is that since January, Donald Trump has been winning the conversation on immigration.

00:09:51.000 There's been a big immigration crackdown.

00:09:53.000 You see that arrests are up.

00:09:55.000 You see they're tightening the restrictions on visas, green cards, refugees, asylum seekers.

00:10:00.000 I mean, they're doing everything to the fullest extent of the law that they can. to limit illegal and legal immigration.

00:10:06.000 And it's a huge win for Trump's base.

00:10:09.000 And at the same time, they've also framed DACA and the other three pillars in a way that is incredibly favorable to the Republicans and would severely hurt the Democrats.

00:10:18.000 So what you are seeing right now, forget about the issue for a moment.

00:10:22.000 Forget about the numbers and the kids and all the rest.

00:10:24.000 Forget about that for a second.

00:10:26.000 Why are we hearing about it?

00:10:28.000 Why is it everywhere? 0.98

00:10:29.000 Because Democrats are going to lose in the midterms.

00:10:32.000 I mean, they're going to lose on this issue in the midterms.

00:10:36.000 And so, the reason you're seeing these kids plastered all over the news, it's not because Democrats really care.

00:10:42.000 It's not because anybody really cares.

00:10:44.000 How can you really care for people you don't even know?

00:10:46.000 I think that's a very difficult thing.

00:10:48.000 It's not a humanitarian thing.

00:10:50.000 It's that Democrats are trying to reframe the immigration issue, regain the initiative on that, and frame Donald Trump as, well, you know, maybe there's DACA in the bill, but do they have this new thing that we have a problem with?

00:11:02.000 No.

00:11:03.000 So now we have to protest and throw our signs up.

00:11:06.000 We won't compromise. 0.78

00:11:07.000 He's like Hitler, you know, that kind of thing. 0.64

00:11:10.000 So that's the first takeaway.

00:11:11.000 The first observation I see is that this is not organic.

00:11:15.000 This did not come from the people.

00:11:17.000 This didn't even come from the immigrant communities themselves.

00:11:20.000 This came from the media.

00:11:22.000 It came from a very desperate Democratic Party, which is trying to cobble together a platform because the Mueller investigation has been completely delegitimized by the IG report. 0.89

00:11:32.000 North Korea is going very successfully.

00:11:34.000 The economy is doing well. 0.95

00:11:36.000 Immigration, we had a fix right on the table to be negotiated.

00:11:40.000 And so this is Democrats throwing a wrench in. 0.71

00:11:43.000 In many ways, it's comparable to that Gold Star family, if you remember.

00:11:47.000 During the 2016 election, after the Democratic National Congress, when they selected Hillary Clinton as their nominee for president, you had the, what were they called?

00:11:58.000 They were called the Khans, the Khan family.

00:12:01.000 And it was Kisra Khan and Gazankadong Kong.

00:12:05.000 They had these very strange Aladdin names.

00:12:05.000 I don't know.

00:12:08.000 I don't remember them. 0.99

00:12:09.000 It was like Gazankadong Kong.

00:12:11.000 I don't know.

00:12:12.000 But so you had these two people, and they were parents of a Fallen soldier.

00:12:16.000 They were a gold star family.

00:12:18.000 And they got on the stage at the Democratic National Convention.

00:12:22.000 I said Congress before.

00:12:24.000 And the guy gets up and he waves the Constitution and says, Oh, Donald Trump, have you even read the Constitution?

00:12:30.000 And Trump attacked him viciously for like a week.

00:12:34.000 He went after the wife.

00:12:35.000 He went after the guy.

00:12:37.000 And many Republicans said, Well, that's not really focused.

00:12:39.000 That's not really on message.

00:12:41.000 And the Democrats seized on this.

00:12:42.000 Whereas he was going so strong in the polls.

00:12:46.000 He went to Louisiana.

00:12:47.000 He went to Mexico.

00:12:48.000 He was doing all kinds of great things.

00:12:50.000 They seized on this.

00:12:51.000 It was everywhere.

00:12:52.000 It was an emotional thing, and they crushed his polling numbers for that month.

00:12:56.000 This is exactly what you see here.

00:12:58.000 So, that's the first takeaway this is astroturfed.

00:13:02.000 Totally nonsense.

00:13:04.000 If we're actually going to engage with the issue, however, the other thing we have to look at is the problem is suffering, right?

00:13:12.000 Or at least the purported problem.

00:13:14.000 The Democrats say this is a problem because immigrant children are suffering.

00:13:19.000 People come over here.

00:13:21.000 And they're separated from their families, and that's unfortunate.

00:13:24.000 So, we have in this instance the problem is that, well, kids are lost into the country, they're separated from their family, they're very upset, and all the rest.

00:13:32.000 Now, a reasonable person says, well, how can we stop people from getting into situations that are bad for them?

00:13:40.000 Right? 1.00

00:13:40.000 You have immigrant kids coming across the border. 1.00

00:13:43.000 Some of them are kids, some of them are a little older, maybe fighting age.

00:13:47.000 These are minor details, but many of the kids come across the border.

00:13:51.000 And they're helpless and they're scared and they're sad.

00:13:54.000 And we look at that as a problem.

00:13:55.000 We say we want to mitigate the amount of children that are in this situation.

00:14:00.000 A reasonable person would say that.

00:14:02.000 They would say, you have these poor kids that are in here, whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing, we don't want this to happen.

00:14:08.000 You also look at the trip over here.

00:14:10.000 It's estimated that anywhere between 50 and 70 to 99% of women who cross the border on their way from Central America and Mexico across the American border get raped or sexually abused.

00:14:24.000 So it's violent.

00:14:25.000 You have human trafficking.

00:14:27.000 You have sexual abuse.

00:14:28.000 Once they get in the country, they're lost.

00:14:30.000 They work for below minimum wage. 1.00

00:14:33.000 They don't speak the language. 0.98

00:14:34.000 They're confused.

00:14:35.000 You know, it's very difficult for a lot of them.

00:14:37.000 And a reasonable person says, so we should make every effort to stop them from coming here.

00:14:44.000 You don't want kids to be upset.

00:14:45.000 You don't want people to get abused or raped or all the rest.

00:14:48.000 Then we should stop incentivizing them to come here.

00:14:52.000 We want the least amount of people to suffer.

00:14:54.000 We want the least amount of people to come here.

00:14:57.000 We need to stop incentivizing this. 0.99

00:14:59.000 And what we see, the statistics show this every single time that there is talk in the Congress, in the media about amnesty, every single time without fail, the amount of illegal immigrants skyrockets.

00:15:14.000 And this is every time for like 20 years.

00:15:17.000 And you could see, predictably, this trend played out in the most recent bout of negotiations about amnesty.

00:15:23.000 Because, of course, people in Mexico, people in Central America, they hear there's a limited window.

00:15:30.000 A limited opportunity where if they sneak in now, they'll get in before the wall. 0.84

00:15:34.000 They'll get in before they say, okay, no more.

00:15:37.000 And then they'll get factored in, they'll get their amnesty, they'll become citizens.

00:15:40.000 It's common sense.

00:15:42.000 It's a little thing called moral hazard.

00:15:44.000 The incentive is that if there's no wall, if there's no real enforcement, no real prosecution, we catch them, we release them, there's no way to verify they can make a living, they can get on welfare and all the rest. 0.73

00:15:56.000 What is the incentive for people that are poor and in Mexico and in El Salvador and Guatemala? 0.77

00:16:02.000 If you're a poor peasant or a poor urban dweller or something and you see across the border they're just giving away free stuff and all you have to do is take a somewhat difficult journey, well, of course you're going to make the trip.

00:16:16.000 And so.

00:16:16.000 That's why I think the whole conversation is wrong to begin with.

00:16:20.000 You know, we need to make these people more comfortable.

00:16:23.000 They come over here, it's very brutal, it's very hard.

00:16:25.000 Well, we need to make it more comfortable so that they can make this brutal, hard journey and come into a place of suffering.

00:16:32.000 You know, in many ways, we're doing them a service by disincentivizing.

00:16:35.000 When you see the ICE agents kicking over the buckets of water and we're sending people back and we're building up a barrier, we're doing them a service because they think twice about coming.

00:16:46.000 It's better for them, it's better for us.

00:16:48.000 Not that we even, and this is for people to care about that. 0.86

00:16:51.000 I care about American citizens, not so much Mexican citizens.

00:16:54.000 But let's entertain that we do care about them. 1.00

00:16:57.000 The best thing for them is to put up a wall, send them back, disincentivize in every way that you can them coming over here, and they think twice.

00:17:08.000 They remain where they are and they don't get abused.

00:17:10.000 There's not human trafficking.

00:17:12.000 They're not separated from their families and all the rest.

00:17:15.000 That's what a normal person thinks.

00:17:16.000 But of course, the media, they don't actually, I mean, that's what underlies the whole conversation.

00:17:22.000 They don't actually care about the children.

00:17:24.000 But they will play on you.

00:17:26.000 And I know people who watch this show, it doesn't work on us.

00:17:29.000 If you watch this show, it doesn't work on you because you're 250 IQ, you're an American nationalist, patriot, so it doesn't work on you.

00:17:38.000 But you do hear a lot of moderate Republicans or independents or moderate people say, well, you know, we may not agree with mass immigration, we may not agree with open borders, but it's the kids.

00:17:48.000 Don't you feel bad for the kids?

00:17:50.000 None of the people at the top do.

00:17:52.000 If they did, number one, they wouldn't be like pedophiles, number two, they wouldn't incentivize people to make this perilous journey.

00:17:59.000 Where they're abused, where they're trafficked, where there's crime and gangs and violence.

00:18:04.000 So that's the first fallacy right out of the gate.

00:18:08.000 But the ultimate conversation that has to be had I mean, forget for a moment about the fact that Amnesty incentivizes these people to come over here.

00:18:16.000 Forget about the fact that, by the way, you look at the 12,000 kids that have been separated from their families, 10,000 of them, 10,000 out of 12,000 were not accompanied by family members, they were accompanied by strangers.

00:18:32.000 So, get that through your head for a moment before we proceed.

00:18:35.000 12,000 kids separated from their families. 0.52

00:18:38.000 And what happens is illegal immigrants will come across the border with kids.

00:18:42.000 They're detained by ICE.

00:18:44.000 And what happens is this for a short time, they could hold the parents with the kids.

00:18:48.000 But if they're going to prosecute people for illegal entry, it's a protracted process.

00:18:53.000 In the meantime, they have to release the kids because you can't incarcerate the kids in jail.

00:18:58.000 So, what happens is Trump changes the rule.

00:19:01.000 In April of 2018, so that we prosecute all the people coming across illegally.

00:19:05.000 And what happens is the ones that come with kids, they have to get released so that the people that came across can be prosecuted.

00:19:11.000 So it's either you have catch and release where the parents come here, we don't prosecute them, they all come across the border anyway, or we incarcerate the parents and release the kids temporarily.

00:19:21.000 But let's think about the numbers for a second.

00:19:24.000 Out of the 12,000 kids that are separated from their parents because they broke the law, because they came across illegally, 10,000 of those kids didn't even come with their parents.

00:19:35.000 They say separated from their parents.

00:19:37.000 They were separated before they came across the border.

00:19:40.000 The parents in Mexico sent the kids across the border with strangers, with traffickers, with smugglers, with all kinds of people, not their parents.

00:19:51.000 So, who's doing the separating?

00:19:53.000 Somebody's doing the separating, Don.

00:19:56.000 Not America, at least in 10,000 out of 12,000 cases.

00:20:00.000 That's something, right? 0.69

00:20:01.000 That's a pretty big number.

00:20:03.000 That they're telling you Trump is ripping families apart, the government's ripping families apart.

00:20:07.000 Really?

00:20:08.000 Who cares about the kids then? 0.99

00:20:10.000 The government doesn't care about the kids. 0.99

00:20:12.000 The media doesn't care about the kids.

00:20:13.000 The parents don't care about the kids.

00:20:15.000 They send them across the border with smugglers.

00:20:18.000 We're supposed to care.

00:20:20.000 We're supposed to make accommodations and spend money and do all the rest to make sure they're comfortable and all the rest.

00:20:27.000 And this is where we get to the fundamental problem.

00:20:30.000 In every conversation, it's about responsibility.

00:20:34.000 Whose responsibility is it that these kids are here?

00:20:36.000 They don't have their parents with them, they don't have the proper custodians with them.

00:20:41.000 Whose responsibility is it?

00:20:44.000 And time and time again, we always just look at the middle of the story.

00:20:49.000 And if you watch this show a lot, you know what I mean by this.

00:20:52.000 We always stop in the middle of the story where you have all these helpless kids and they're so sad, and what are we going to do about them?

00:20:58.000 But we don't look at the fact that their parents or whoever it was, the smugglers, whoever, made the decision first to put them in this position.

00:21:08.000 It's not like there has to be 12,000 illegal unaccompanied minors in the country.

00:21:14.000 That doesn't have to happen.

00:21:15.000 It's not like the world came into existence in April 2018 when the rule was changed.

00:21:20.000 We started prosecuting all legal immigrants, and oh, all of a sudden, poof, there's 12,000 kids. 1.00

00:21:25.000 We don't know what to do with them. 1.00

00:21:27.000 No, people made a conscious choice.

00:21:31.000 Individuals with agency made a conscious choice to break the law, to come into the country, and subject themselves to the risks of breaking the law and the consequences.

00:21:44.000 If I send my kids, there is a possibility they'll get caught.

00:21:47.000 They'll be dispersed.

00:21:49.000 They will never see their parents again.

00:21:50.000 It'll be very hard.

00:21:51.000 They made that choice.

00:21:54.000 And so, whose responsibility is it?

00:21:56.000 America, the government, the state, a country has an obligation and a responsibility to enforce the laws, to keep its people safe, to uphold the rule of law, all these things.

00:22:08.000 That's a responsibility our government has to its people and nobody else.

00:22:12.000 A parent's responsibility is to take care of its kids or their kids.

00:22:17.000 If the parents send the kids across the border, It is not the state's responsibility to take care of them.

00:22:22.000 It's not the state's responsibility to make sure that they're comfortable and they're okay and they're with their parents.

00:22:27.000 That's the parent's responsibility.

00:22:29.000 The state's responsibility is to enforce the law.

00:22:31.000 And I drew up a very helpful infographic here to illustrate this concept because it's so important.

00:22:38.000 It's so important.

00:22:39.000 It underwrites just about everything that we talk about here.

00:22:42.000 And it's good.

00:22:43.000 It looks like it's not messing with the white balance too much this time.

00:22:46.000 Microphone's in the way.

00:22:49.000 Configure this.

00:22:50.000 Maybe I'll do, here, I'll put the microphone here, turn up the gain, put this here so you can see.

00:22:56.000 Okay, there we go.

00:22:59.000 Okay.

00:22:59.000 So here you have a little diagram that will help explain what I mean by this.

00:23:03.000 And we see this in every issue.

00:23:05.000 This is the problem.

00:23:06.000 In the abortion issue, it's the same calculation. 0.58

00:23:10.000 In the crime issue, same calculation and in immigration.

00:23:13.000 On this side of the diagram, we have these problems we hear so much about.

00:23:17.000 All these problems we hear about that have to be rectified by other people.

00:23:22.000 So many unwanted pregnancies.

00:23:24.000 What are we supposed to do? 1.00

00:23:26.000 A mother, poor, no husband, she can't raise the kid. 1.00

00:23:31.000 It's such a problem. 1.00

00:23:33.000 We have to look at abortion. 1.00

00:23:35.000 We have to look at abortion because of all these unwanted pregnancies.

00:23:38.000 And what are we going to do? 0.58

00:23:39.000 It's a big problem.

00:23:42.000 Mass incarceration. 1.00

00:23:44.000 Shit. 1.00

00:23:45.000 He was getting his life back together. 1.00

00:23:47.000 He was getting his life on track.

00:23:48.000 He was an A student.

00:23:50.000 Now he's in jail and he only robbed a store with a gun. 0.99

00:23:53.000 We have all these black people in jail and that's a terrible thing. 0.98

00:23:58.000 We have to change the laws and enforcement so that less of them will be in jail. 1.00

00:24:03.000 And immigration.

00:24:05.000 These poor kids are in camps.

00:24:07.000 They're separated from their parents.

00:24:09.000 It's just like the Holocaust. 0.91

00:24:10.000 In every case, we have problems. 0.99

00:24:13.000 We can admit these are problems, these are negative externalities in a society.

00:24:17.000 But in each case, there are choices made by free people to create these problems that were not made by law abiding, tax paying citizens of America. 0.84

00:24:29.000 Well, in some of these cases, they are, not for the immigration issue.

00:24:32.000 In the abortion issue, sure, we have unwanted pregnancies. 1.00

00:24:36.000 You have a woman, oh, she's poor, she can't raise the kid. 1.00

00:24:39.000 Well, who had irresponsible sex? 1.00

00:24:42.000 Who was having sex when they knew they couldn't raise a child or maybe taking risks?

00:24:46.000 Maybe it wasn't protected.

00:24:47.000 Hey, even if it was protected, there are many circumstances where it's not 100%.

00:24:54.000 So, in any case, you had a person, you had a woman and a man who made a choice to accept this risk so that they could have this temporary benefit, so that they could basically cheat the system.

00:25:06.000 They could get this carnal pleasure without the risk, without the consequence.

00:25:11.000 Bad things happen.

00:25:12.000 You have irresponsible, unprotected sex, bad things happen, and who's supposed to foot the bill?

00:25:18.000 The state's supposed to adopt the kid, somebody else is supposed to adopt the kid, or the kid pays the price by getting aborted.

00:25:24.000 But when you start in the middle of the story, it seems like that's a no brainer.

00:25:27.000 Of course, well, you have people, they're so sad, we have to take care of them.

00:25:31.000 How about we hold people accountable?

00:25:33.000 How about if people have irresponsible sex?

00:25:36.000 Hey, guess what? 0.98

00:25:36.000 You've got to raise the kid. 0.98

00:25:37.000 Figure it out.

00:25:39.000 Figure it out.

00:25:39.000 We're not going to take care of it, and we're not going to allow you to kill.

00:25:44.000 Or take a human life that didn't do anything.

00:25:46.000 You made a bad decision, you pay for it. 1.00

00:25:50.000 In the case of mass incarceration, we see all these black people in jail. 0.97

00:25:54.000 It really is a sad thing. 1.00

00:25:55.000 You see a lot of young teenagers who do stupid things, they end up in jail, they ruin their lives. 1.00

00:26:00.000 That's terrible. 1.00

00:26:01.000 But you know what?

00:26:02.000 In every case, you had people who were willing and able to break the law, to commit crimes. 1.00

00:26:08.000 The reason you have mass incarceration is because black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime in every kind of crime. 0.99

00:26:16.000 There was one criminologist who put it pretty succinctly. 0.99

00:26:19.000 They commit 10 times more rapes, 10 times more armed robberies, 10 times more homicides than white people.

00:26:25.000 And so the reason you have mass incarceration is not because the system is broken, it's bad, people have to change things, we have to accommodate. 0.62

00:26:33.000 It's because people made irresponsible, bad decisions.

00:26:38.000 You want to solve mass incarceration?

00:26:40.000 Stop committing a disproportionate amount of the crime.

00:26:43.000 You want to stop unwanted pregnancies? 0.79

00:26:45.000 Stop having irresponsible sex. 0.86

00:26:47.000 Easy.

00:26:48.000 And the way that you get people to do it is to disincentivize by allowing consequences to move forward.

00:26:55.000 Consequences move forward, and then people think twice. 1.00

00:26:59.000 If people, if other young girls look at, uh oh, the town whore, you know, she made a big mistake, and now she's raising kids in high school. 1.00

00:27:08.000 The other women look at her and say, she couldn't get out of it so quickly. 1.00

00:27:12.000 There's a stigma. 1.00

00:27:12.000 She has to raise the kids. 1.00

00:27:14.000 She's got to drop out of school. 1.00

00:27:15.000 It's a big deal. 0.96

00:27:17.000 Maybe I'll think twice about it.

00:27:18.000 Taking those risks.

00:27:19.000 Problem solves itself.

00:27:21.000 Mass incarceration. 1.00

00:27:22.000 Maybe these black people will look at XXX Tentacion and say, hey, that's what happens when you gang. 0.99

00:27:29.000 Well, actually, I don't really know what happened. 0.91

00:27:31.000 I don't think that was gang things.

00:27:32.000 I think that was, he just got robbed.

00:27:34.000 But let's think of other examples.

00:27:36.000 Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown.

00:27:38.000 Hey, you know, maybe you shouldn't rob a convenience store with a gun.

00:27:42.000 Hey, maybe you shouldn't just attack people because you're high on purple drank.

00:27:46.000 You know, maybe we should actually follow through on getting our life back together.

00:27:50.000 And I don't know, not worry about basketball and hip hop and go into accounting or something.

00:27:55.000 You know, if we look at consequences, we'll change our decision making.

00:27:59.000 And then you don't have mass incarceration.

00:28:01.000 And lastly, The issue before us today.

00:28:05.000 Poor children is so sad. 1.00

00:28:07.000 Hey, stop coming across the border.

00:28:10.000 You don't want to get separated.

00:28:11.000 You don't want to get detained.

00:28:12.000 You don't want to get deported and all the rest.

00:28:14.000 Don't come across the border.

00:28:16.000 And we have to let the consequences come down.

00:28:18.000 People have to be separated.

00:28:20.000 There's no other way around it.

00:28:21.000 There's no other way around it.

00:28:23.000 We have to enforce our laws.

00:28:25.000 The way the system works is such that the reason the kids are separated is because the parents are being prosecuted or whoever is accompanied with the kids are being prosecuted.

00:28:36.000 It's very cut and dry.

00:28:38.000 You either have open borders, you release the kids in, there's no penalty, there's no consequence, there's a big incentive for them to come pouring across the border into this terrible situation, or eventually we just give the Democrats what they want and we just build roads paved with gold for people to pour in and take our stuff, or we enforce the law.

00:28:57.000 Actions have consequences, and the problem fixes itself.

00:29:01.000 You don't want to get separated, you don't come across the border, you don't send your kids, and anything like that.

00:29:05.000 And that's very simple.

00:29:06.000 That's a very simple.

00:29:08.000 It's a little thing called personal responsibility, personal accountability.

00:29:12.000 Hey, you know, when I went to Charlottesville and people are sending me death threats and nobody will hire me ever again, and I couldn't even get accepted into a school with a 76% acceptance rate, which, by the way, you know, I had a 34 ACT.

00:29:29.000 What was the average there?

00:29:29.000 Like 21.

00:29:31.000 Nobody, nobody, there was no national outcry on television saying, oh, Nick is a young guy.

00:29:38.000 And he went to Charlottesville, and now the globalists are after him, and we have to accommodate him.

00:29:43.000 People said, You know what?

00:29:45.000 You have free speech, but you're not free from the consequences.

00:29:48.000 And I accepted that.

00:29:49.000 I never once complained.

00:29:51.000 I never once said, Woe is me, feel bad for me.

00:29:54.000 I went there understanding the consequences, the ramifications, and I live with them.

00:29:59.000 People do this every day.

00:30:01.000 Law abiding people, tax paying people do this every day.

00:30:06.000 If a middle class white person, taxpayer, citizen, Commits a crime and they go to jail.

00:30:13.000 Is the media out there saying, oh, but what about their kids?

00:30:17.000 What about the wife?

00:30:18.000 What about the house? 0.91

00:30:19.000 What about?

00:30:19.000 No, of course not.

00:30:21.000 Of course not.

00:30:22.000 What we have is a system that panders to one group of people or many groups of a particular kind of person.

00:30:29.000 And the people that support the system are just left out to dry.

00:30:32.000 The people that pay the taxes, that go to work, that vote, that do what we're supposed to do, we're expected to foot the bill for everything.

00:30:39.000 We're expected to pay for everything, to feel sorry, to accommodate.

00:30:43.000 And by the way, none of those accommodations are extended to us.

00:30:46.000 God forbid we get in any trouble, right?

00:30:48.000 So that's fundamentally where we're at as a society.

00:30:51.000 And it's very telling that it is allowed to be framed this way because I have a feeling that in a more enlightened time, when there was a more transparent relationship between actions and consequences, this would be a no brainer.

00:31:06.000 This would be a no brainer.

00:31:07.000 We want a country.

00:31:08.000 And so that's the issue.

00:31:10.000 But the current events part that I wanted to get into is the more political side.

00:31:14.000 You know, we could talk about the issues and.

00:31:17.000 Is it wrong?

00:31:17.000 Is it right?

00:31:18.000 But the question that remains to be seen is well, now what happens?

00:31:21.000 What happens next?

00:31:22.000 You have these kids that are here.

00:31:24.000 It is AstroTurfed, but that's how it is.

00:31:27.000 You know, the media has a monopoly on the dialogue or a big part of it.

00:31:31.000 And now people are very upset about this.

00:31:33.000 There's a lot of pressure on Capitol Hill to make a compromise.

00:31:35.000 And so the latest development and where this is headed right now is that Donald Trump wants to end this, which is kind of sad.

00:31:44.000 This is what he says.

00:31:46.000 I don't know if that's totally legitimate.

00:31:48.000 He went today and spoke at a conference of small business owners and said, you have to separate the kids.

00:31:53.000 And he's been doing a great job of framing it as open borders versus enforcement, which is taking away the kids.

00:32:00.000 But there was a report that just came out before the show went live.

00:32:04.000 That in a huddle with GOP congressional leaders on Capitol Hill, he said he wants a fix for this problem.

00:32:10.000 You know, what needs to be fixed in an immigration bill?

00:32:14.000 Not only does he want the fix to be in a bill and he wants it fixed and all the rest, Ted Cruz proposed a standalone bill where they would just vote on it and it would make it so that if kids were brought here, it would be a little bit more lenient in terms of if they could stay with the parents in detention facilities and they'd have more detention facilities so that they could have the kids and parents stay together while the parents are on trial.

00:32:36.000 There was a standalone bill.

00:32:37.000 That was endorsed by Cruz, earlier endorsed by Trump.

00:32:40.000 Today, after the huddle on Capitol Hill, he said, Not only do I want a legislative fix for this, he says he wants it incorporated into an immigration bill.

00:32:51.000 And this is scary because we talked about this yesterday.

00:32:54.000 The two bills that are on the floor of the House right now are the Good Lot bill and the Paul Ryan bill.

00:33:00.000 The Good Lot bill does not have the votes right now.

00:33:03.000 They have, at most, they've estimated 170 votes.

00:33:08.000 That's the most accurate estimate right now 170 votes.

00:33:11.000 You need 218.

00:33:13.000 To pass in the House.

00:33:13.000 And that's before we even get into the Senate.

00:33:16.000 So the Good Lot bill, which remember would have had no pathway to citizenship for the DOC recipients, would have had an end to the diversity visa lottery, an end to chain migration, and $25 billion for the wall.

00:33:29.000 That probably will not get a vote.

00:33:31.000 If it did, it would probably fail.

00:33:33.000 The bill that we're left with, the moderate bill, the Paul Ryan bill, which thankfully doesn't have the votes yet, but we'll see what happens, does not have any of the aforementioned items, the four pillars that Trump mentioned as far back as January.

00:33:47.000 The only one that it's true to is the diversity visa lottery, which it ends, but they have a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million DACA recipients.

00:33:57.000 1.8 million get a pathway to citizenship through green cards or other methods.

00:34:04.000 $25 billion for a wall in basically a promissory note.

00:34:07.000 They say, well, in a future Congress, maybe we'll allocate money over the next several years.

00:34:12.000 So you know it's not going to happen.

00:34:14.000 There's nothing for the wall. 0.82

00:34:16.000 Chain migration.

00:34:18.000 Is like adjusted.

00:34:20.000 It's not even cut.

00:34:20.000 It's cut like this much, and they compensate for the cuts by extending visas and green cards.

00:34:26.000 So it doesn't really address the main problem.

00:34:29.000 And the diversity visa lottery system, which has ended, but that's only 70,000 immigrants a year.

00:34:33.000 That doesn't even scratch the surface.

00:34:35.000 So this is where we're at right now.

00:34:37.000 Kind of spooky stuff.

00:34:39.000 The only bill that would even make sense as a compromise, and even then I wouldn't be too gung ho about it, doesn't even come close to the votes.

00:34:47.000 What they're trying to do right now is this moderate bill, and now they're trying to cram in.

00:34:52.000 This stuff about separating children.

00:34:54.000 President Trump, after the huddle, said he would endorse either bill.

00:34:57.000 He's agnostic about it.

00:34:59.000 And the worst part is a good lot Mark Meadows, all the people that did the conservative bill say they support the moderate bill.

00:35:07.000 So it looks like there's very little that stands in the way of this amnesty bill with no money for the wall and amnesty for millions of people.

00:35:16.000 The only thing between that and becoming law is Democrats who may or may not be cajoled into joining it and a veto by President Trump.

00:35:25.000 So It's a little bit nerve wracking right now.

00:35:29.000 I will say, however, that there is a pretty telling contradiction, or at least a dissonance, between what Trump is saying about the bill and what he's saying on Twitter and his public statements.

00:35:42.000 And I think that's not a negligible thing.

00:35:44.000 Because Trump has come out very strongly since this has really gained a lot of traction, saying America will not be a migrant camp, saying that it's either open borders and you don't separate the kids, or you separate the kids and we enforce the law, saying you have to separate the kids. 0.69

00:36:01.000 There was.

00:36:02.000 Excuse me, a report that came out in Politico today, which said that Stephen Miller and other White House aides are ruthlessly prosecuting illegals.

00:36:10.000 They're cutting down on immigration the most possible so that by September they can present to voters progress on immigration enforcement.

00:36:18.000 So you have a lot of rhetoric comparing the immigration situation to Germany and the high crime, changing the culture, comparing it to MS 13, talking about open borders, and him saying that there will be amnesty.

00:36:30.000 And so it's tough to say where we go from here.

00:36:33.000 Certainly, if the Paul Ryan bill gets any support from the Democrats, which it doesn't look like it will right now, it's tough to say.

00:36:40.000 I think Trump will be in a pretty difficult situation because, you know, just like with the DACA deal, he has expressed some kind of half hearted support for this.

00:36:48.000 Will he veto it?

00:36:49.000 Will he shoot it down if it gains traction?

00:36:52.000 Or is he just giving it some kind of, I don't know, saying he endorses it, but basically not meaning it for the sake of the media?

00:37:00.000 It's tough to say.

00:37:01.000 But this really brings up a good point about framing.

00:37:04.000 I think this is the last element of the situation, which is.

00:37:07.000 A teachable moment here.

00:37:09.000 We see the DACA, or I'm sorry, the children being separated, and there's kind of been two schools of thought from the White House comms on how do we counter this narrative.

00:37:19.000 It's a pretty compelling narrative.

00:37:21.000 Democrats say the kids are sad, they're crying.

00:37:24.000 Isn't that, you know, that's a compelling thing to show people, women in particular, moderates, all the rest.

00:37:30.000 And there's been kind of two schools of thought on how to counter that.

00:37:33.000 Trump, kind of, but most of the comms department, most of, you know, the, uh, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Nielsen from Homeland Security and the one from HHS, they've all been saying, well, the reason this is happening is because Democrats have made it this way, because the law says it has to be this way.

00:37:53.000 And the Democrats have to change the laws.

00:37:56.000 And Trump has admittedly gone along with that as well, saying, change your laws.

00:38:00.000 Democrats have to change the laws.

00:38:02.000 And at first glance, you could kind of understand why that makes sense.

00:38:05.000 It's kind of like jujitsu, where Democrats say, this is a problem.

00:38:09.000 And Republicans are like, Yeah, it is, but no, you did it.

00:38:13.000 You did it, not us.

00:38:15.000 And so, on the one hand, you could say, well, is it kind of effective because it presents Democrats as obstructionists and they won't change the law and therefore it's their fault in theory?

00:38:28.000 But this is not a compelling argument at all.

00:38:30.000 The Republicans control the House and the Senate, and most people don't know that you need 51 votes in the Senate.

00:38:36.000 Most people don't know that you have to cobble together a big coalition.

00:38:39.000 They know that Trump is in the White House.

00:38:41.000 They know the Republicans are in the House and the Senate to try and spin it as We're just helpless.

00:38:46.000 The Democrats won't let us change the law.

00:38:48.000 It's very weak.

00:38:49.000 And additionally, what you're doing is taking a Democrat issue and incorporating it into your own message.

00:38:55.000 That's bad.

00:38:56.000 That's like you want to eat poison, basically. 1.00

00:39:00.000 To say, oh, we're the defender of illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:39:02.000 Why would we make that argument?

00:39:04.000 Actually, the Democrats are the ones that want to punish illegal immigrants. 0.58

00:39:07.000 Hey, sign me up for being a Democrat then, right?

00:39:09.000 Of course not.

00:39:11.000 So this has been, I think, an abysmal failure in terms of messaging, not by the president, but by the White House.

00:39:18.000 Because the White House, all they've had to offer in response is like, well, actually, it's like this.

00:39:24.000 Actually, it's not quite as bad as you say it is, or actually, the Democrats are causing it.

00:39:29.000 It's not effective.

00:39:30.000 It doesn't work because you're still talking about illegal immigrants and feeling bad for them.

00:39:35.000 Trump has really innovated on this one in terms of the rhetoric about the U.S. being a migrant camp, comparing it to Germany and what happened in Europe.

00:39:46.000 This is powerful rhetoric.

00:39:48.000 The way to go on the immigration issue is not to say, as Republicans have for 20 years, actually, we're the party of immigrants.

00:39:54.000 Actually, Democrats are hurting immigrants.

00:39:56.000 That's the wrong approach.

00:39:58.000 People, you know, if you're saying, well, we're open borders light, people are going to go with the open borders people.

00:40:03.000 You know, if it's this issue or we really believe in this issue, they're going to go for the Democrats.

00:40:09.000 If Republicans are like, you know, we're amnesty, but kind of not quite, kind of in the middle, and we still get blamed for, you know, ruthless enforcement, they're going to go with the Democrats.

00:40:18.000 The answer is to present an equally compelling narrative against the whole premise, against immigration altogether.

00:40:28.000 Don't say, We're actually the party of protecting immigrants. 0.95

00:40:31.000 Say the immigrants are the problem.

00:40:34.000 Actually, I don't care about separating families. 1.00

00:40:37.000 Actually, I don't care about illegal people getting hurt by the law.

00:40:41.000 We have to enforce the law. 1.00

00:40:43.000 The problem is not that the illegal immigrants are being treated badly, it's that there are illegal immigrants in the country. 1.00

00:40:49.000 Look at the consequences when they come over here. 1.00

00:40:51.000 They kill citizens, they change the culture, they abuse the system, they themselves get abused.

00:40:57.000 We can't have it anymore.

00:40:59.000 That is the answer to this narrative.

00:41:01.000 And what we're finding about Mimetics, about narrative, about rhetoric, at least I think what Donald Trump is exploring for the Republican Party, he's on the frontier of this, is that we cannot exist solely as a negation of the Democrats.

00:41:17.000 Our rhetoric, our policies cannot solely be, but not that, not Obamacare, not the bailout, not this, not taxes.

00:41:25.000 It has to be a positive vision, it has to be something that is equally compelling, a totally different worldview, a totally different premise.

00:41:34.000 And so Donald Trump completely steals their thunder by, instead of talking about kids being separated, poor, poor children, he flips the script and says, okay, well, what about MS 13?

00:41:45.000 You know, you want to defend all these immigrants.

00:41:47.000 What about the gang members that bully kids in high school, that kill and rape American high school students, that they control entire towns? 0.59

00:41:56.000 What about the drug dealers who bring across the opioids that are killing our people?

00:42:00.000 What about what's happening in Europe, where immigrants pour across the border, the ones you're defending, and they rape people, they change the culture, there's terrorist attacks?

00:42:08.000 You know, that's the kind of thinking that we need in the White House.

00:42:10.000 That's the kind of thinking that we need to counter these narratives.

00:42:14.000 And we just have a remarkably incompetent communications department in the White House.

00:42:20.000 And, you know, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is pretty good, but they need somebody like Trump really grabbing the reins on that because this is a winning issue.

00:42:29.000 This is a winning issue in this time for most of America. 0.72

00:42:32.000 People are sick of it.

00:42:34.000 People are sick of people abusing the system, people abusing welfare.

00:42:38.000 People are sick of press two for Spanish, and this is a boomer kind of complaint, but people are tired of it.

00:42:44.000 Everybody's tired of it.

00:42:45.000 Nobody wants to talk about it, but you would get votes for that.

00:42:48.000 So I think that the way forward, we don't really know how it's going to play out.

00:42:53.000 I forgot to turn my game back down.

00:42:55.000 We don't really know how it's going to play out with these bills, with this issue, but the answer is not to compromise on this.

00:43:04.000 People have it in their head that, well, Trump's going to have to bow to the pressure, Trump's going to have to incorporate something into the bill.

00:43:10.000 What's the expectation?

00:43:12.000 Do people think that if Trump compromises on this and allows for new detention centers and the DAC recipients, do you think that the Democrats and the media are going to go on television the next day and say, Donald Trump saves immigrants? 0.90

00:43:25.000 Donald Trump is a great president.

00:43:27.000 We were wrong about him.

00:43:28.000 He was actually really cool all along.

00:43:30.000 Do you think that's how it would play out?

00:43:32.000 Do you think that it would play out like that?

00:43:33.000 If he were to just give in to the pressure and do the right thing according to the media and he gets the credit from Anderson Cooper, do you think the next day they would all be singing his Praises and all of a sudden we're on board?

00:43:45.000 Of course not.

00:43:46.000 Of course not.

00:43:47.000 He would lose the Republicans.

00:43:49.000 He wouldn't gain a single Democrat.

00:43:51.000 Nothing would be gained.

00:43:53.000 So stay the course.

00:43:55.000 That's my message to Trump.

00:43:56.000 If he's watching America First, that's my message.

00:44:00.000 We're rooting for him.

00:44:01.000 We got to support our guy.

00:44:02.000 We got to show him that we're against it.

00:44:04.000 So, you know, normally I don't advocate for this stuff, but you got to call the White House, your representative, get on Twitter, get the message out. 0.87

00:44:10.000 We're against immigration.

00:44:12.000 Illegal, legal, it's over. 1.00

00:44:14.000 We don't want the invasion anymore.

00:44:16.000 So that's the kids.

00:44:17.000 But we're going to get into our super chats, super chats, and stream labs, and we'll see what people are saying about my hot takes on the show.

00:44:30.000 Is Nick cold and cold hearted and a bad dude, or does he got the right idea?

00:44:35.000 We're going to consult the people on this one, and let's see what people are saying.

00:44:40.000 We've got Ian Weber who says, Could you please read my stream lab from yesterday?

00:44:44.000 You missed it. 0.94

00:44:45.000 My new question is, What is the meanest thing you've ever done to a woman? 0.99

00:44:49.000 What kind of question is that? 0.98

00:44:51.000 What kind of question is that?

00:44:53.000 I've never done anything mean to a woman.

00:44:55.000 Never in my life.

00:44:56.000 Never in my life have I done anything mean to a woman. 0.70

00:44:59.000 Women should be cherished and respected.

00:45:05.000 You should never be mean to them. 0.99

00:45:07.000 You should never hit them.

00:45:08.000 You should never push them downstairs.

00:45:10.000 Ever.

00:45:11.000 I never want to see that happen.

00:45:14.000 So I would say I'm drawing a blank. 1.00

00:45:16.000 Mean things to women just doesn't ring a bell for me. 0.95

00:45:18.000 I'm the nicest person to women. 1.00

00:45:20.000 Let's see if I could go in and find the old one. 1.00

00:45:22.000 Here we go.

00:45:24.000 And this is your one from yesterday that I missed.

00:45:26.000 You said, obviously, you don't have to, but you should ask Jared Taylor what he thinks about people like Richard Spencer, who gave the public a bad image of dissident right wingers.

00:45:35.000 You know, not for nothing.

00:45:37.000 I don't really want to stoke the flames of these kinds of divisions.

00:45:40.000 I know Jared Taylor and others don't really like to talk about the internal politics.

00:45:46.000 I think that's best moving forward.

00:45:48.000 You know, unless it's somebody that is kind of like in the picture, like Spencer, for better or for worse, has kind of taken a backseat at this point.

00:45:57.000 Reformulating the strategy.

00:45:59.000 I don't really want to kick a guy while he's down and cause a whole big thing.

00:46:03.000 So, probably not going to bring that up.

00:46:06.000 Brosa says PayPal locked my account and hasn't responded to my emails.

00:46:10.000 So, have this for now.

00:46:11.000 Love tech issues almost as much as you.

00:46:14.000 Yeah, you know how much I like the tech issues.

00:46:16.000 The tech issues are not good for my hands or my vocal cords when I'm screaming.

00:46:23.000 But I appreciate it.

00:46:23.000 Ian Weber says A quote by Otto von Bismarck A journalist is a person who has mistaken their calling.

00:46:31.000 Very true.

00:46:32.000 Alex F., with no question, but just some dollery dues.

00:46:36.000 Constantine says the same people shedding crocodile tears over separation of families are the same ones that undermine the American nuclear family via abortion, promotion of casual sex, glorifying single motherhood, etc.

00:46:49.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you can always find this in the Democratic narrative.

00:46:53.000 They talk about splitting up families, but they're for divorce, right?

00:46:58.000 Come on, really? 0.65

00:46:59.000 They're for divorce, they're for abortion, they're for. 0.85

00:47:04.000 The destruction of the traditional family, therefore, public schooling. 1.00

00:47:08.000 I mean, what destroys the family more than women in the workforce, public schooling, and divorce? 1.00

00:47:14.000 And they're all gung ho about that. 0.99

00:47:15.000 So, are they really against family separation or are they just for mass immigration?

00:47:19.000 It all comes back to the same thing.

00:47:23.000 Everything they say is basically a lie on both sides, except for Trump.

00:47:27.000 Republicans, Democrats, and we're talking about the establishment like monoparty.

00:47:32.000 It's all lies, it's all theater.

00:47:34.000 And you really have to get that through your head when you think about these kinds of things.

00:47:38.000 That's such a great point that you bring up.

00:47:40.000 If they really cared about this abstract concept of the sacred family being torn apart, well, then they wouldn't be taking mommy out of the home, right?

00:47:49.000 They wouldn't be taking the kids out of the home.

00:47:52.000 They wouldn't be telling mommy that, hey, if you're not totally happy with what you've got right now, you could just leave and nobody would care.

00:48:00.000 They wouldn't be saying that, well, actually, a family could be, you know, a guy, a guy, a dog, and, you know, in a New York apartment.

00:48:09.000 And a family could be a guy and three women and children.

00:48:12.000 And it could be, you know, A bowling pin and a black lab.

00:48:16.000 It could be whatever you want it to be.

00:48:18.000 It's nothing, you know?

00:48:19.000 So, of course, there's hypocrisy there.

00:48:21.000 Let's take a look at our super chats now.

00:48:25.000 A good point.

00:48:27.000 And let's see.

00:48:28.000 We've got Joshua Larson who says, Fellas, remember to use prayer as your steering wheel, not your spare tire.

00:48:37.000 Very good.

00:48:37.000 Yes.

00:48:38.000 Very true. 0.99

00:48:40.000 Simon Skola says, Good to see you back, my fasci white brethren. 0.95

00:48:43.000 14. 1.00

00:48:44.000 Hail Europa, right?

00:48:44.000 Yes.

00:48:46.000 Just a joke, folks.

00:48:46.000 No.

00:48:47.000 Just a joke, Jared Holt.

00:48:50.000 Just a joke, ADL, SPLC.

00:48:53.000 Simon Scullis says Did you hear about the arrest of 2,300 pedophiles?

00:48:58.000 I did, I did.

00:48:59.000 Yes, they were conducting a massive raid.

00:49:02.000 It was actually spearheaded by the DOJ, so people give a lot of heat on sessions, but they just rounded up over the past three months 2,300 pedophiles and sting operations.

00:49:12.000 I mean, they are aggressively going after these people all across the country.

00:49:17.000 And it's a great thing because, you know, Under Barack Obama and under Bush, I think there was actually a lot of complicity in human trafficking and other things for various reasons.

00:49:27.000 And so that you see such a real and viable effort to prosecute these people and to go after these people just goes to show this is not a part of the monoparty.

00:49:38.000 This is not a part of the system.

00:49:39.000 And it also goes to show we're not just fighting people who don't agree with us, we're fighting against people that didn't care enough to prosecute pedophiles.

00:49:48.000 The resources are there, the intelligence is there, but they just didn't prosecute.

00:49:52.000 So.

00:49:55.000 So it's good to hear about Jeff Sessions prosecuting the pedophiles.

00:49:59.000 Chris says keeping these kids in air conditioned tents is a luxury compared to sending them into the desert.

00:50:06.000 Half a million children have been aborted this year already.

00:50:09.000 We need Christ back into American life.

00:50:12.000 You said it, big guy. 0.99

00:50:13.000 Very true.

00:50:14.000 Very true.

00:50:14.000 And that's the other thing.

00:50:16.000 These kids, when they're separated from the families, they're sent to foster parents or relatives in the country or if they're in the custody of HHS. 0.92

00:50:26.000 I mean, It's, I'm sure, much better than it is in Mexico in most cases.

00:50:31.000 They wouldn't leave Mexico if it wasn't that bad, you know, compared to where they are now, right? 0.98

00:50:36.000 Jen Zizas says, I just finished reading Mere Christianity.

00:50:40.000 Very good book.

00:50:42.000 But I didn't agree with C.S. Lewis about the great sin being pride, though.

00:50:47.000 Do you have any thoughts on this?

00:50:49.000 Yeah, I think that, you know, the first commandment is you can't have any gods before me.

00:50:56.000 And maybe.

00:50:58.000 I think the thing that we have the biggest trouble with is getting over ourselves. 0.99

00:51:01.000 I think this is what separates religious people from non religious people.

00:51:05.000 I talk about this all the time, you know, when people call me arrogant or condescending, which I have a tendency to be.

00:51:11.000 I'm a cocky young kid.

00:51:12.000 I think I'm entitled to be that at this juncture in my life.

00:51:17.000 But I always tell people you really can't be an arrogant person and believe in God, right?

00:51:21.000 I mean, if you believe in God, think of the, what would you call that?

00:51:28.000 The disparity between what we are and what God is.

00:51:31.000 I mean, you're acknowledging that there is something so much greater than yourself, your brain is.

00:51:36.000 Can't even fathom it, cannot even compute it physiologically.

00:51:40.000 How could you be an arrogant person and believe in a higher power that great and the inferiority, the imperfection of man to that extent?

00:51:48.000 So I think that what C.S. Lewis makes the case for that is the whole point of belief in the first place, which is recognizing, acknowledging a higher power that it might be correct and you might be wrong.

00:52:02.000 Once you get rid of pride, I think the gate is basically open. 0.98

00:52:05.000 We find time and again in atheists, It's people who are sick. 0.79

00:52:08.000 It's people who can't get over themselves. 0.80

00:52:10.000 It's people who think that they or we as a species are the end all be all.

00:52:15.000 We've got it all figured out.

00:52:16.000 We don't need this.

00:52:17.000 We don't need that.

00:52:18.000 That's pride.

00:52:19.000 So I think that if you get that out of your heart, I think that's when you can have God come in.

00:52:24.000 So that's what I see as the point there.

00:52:29.000 And also, the whole story of the gospel is about what? 0.52

00:52:34.000 The prideful Pharisees, the people who rejected Christ said, well, man has figured it out.

00:52:39.000 Man's traditions have supplanted.

00:52:42.000 The Word of God or God's Son. 0.88

00:52:44.000 You know, they came to the Son of God and they're like, You don't play by God's rules.

00:52:48.000 We don't like you.

00:52:49.000 That's pride.

00:52:50.000 So I think that, you know, if you look at what was devoted in the gospel by Jesus Christ in terms of what he devoted time talking about and words talking about, it was mostly about that and not so much about some of the peripheral things, which are important, but, you know, it's in degrees.

00:53:07.000 Tan Staffel says, What are your thoughts on anti white affirmative action policies?

00:53:11.000 What longer term effect does removing whites have?

00:53:14.000 From the top of the hierarchy, have well, of course, the problem with anti white affirmative action is that you don't have a meritocracy, right? 0.68

00:53:24.000 I mean, if if if equality, or rather, if if outcomes are unequal because groups are unequal, well, then if you have you know one group gets lower standards than the other group, you're going to have very low quality people in the top positions, you know. 0.57

00:53:39.000 I mean, just imagine you know, you think about what affirmative action has across the society in business, government, schooling, all the rest.

00:53:47.000 Think about it on an individual level.

00:53:50.000 What if your doctor was a beneficiary of affirmative action, right?

00:53:55.000 What if you're like, I don't know, somebody else who's really involved in your life was a beneficiary of affirmative action?

00:54:00.000 Would you want the person who built your house to be a beneficiary of affirmative action? 0.92

00:54:05.000 Where it's like, you know, they were kind of good at building houses, but they were also black, so they got in, right? 0.97

00:54:10.000 Would that be a house you would want to live in? 0.99

00:54:12.000 You go in for like a brain surgery, and, you know, the physician there, he wasn't really that good.

00:54:18.000 Maybe he wouldn't have passed a normal test, but. 0.63

00:54:20.000 You know, he was a gay Hispanic, so he got through just fine.

00:54:23.000 I mean, would you want to go into that surgery?

00:54:25.000 Probably not.

00:54:26.000 And that's essentially what we've done to every high level position in the country.

00:54:31.000 Everybody who's gotten an education in the past 20 years has been subjected to affirmative action. 0.51

00:54:36.000 So that's teachers teaching your children, that's business people, that's doctors, that's all kinds of people. 0.72

00:54:42.000 It's going to be a shitty country if you don't have the best people running it.

00:54:46.000 So, and really, affirmative action is kind of unfortunate. 0.80

00:54:50.000 It's based on a misreading of the law. 0.60

00:54:54.000 The 19. 64 Civil Rights Act, the definition of affirmative action there was perversely distorted.

00:55:02.000 Where initially affirmative action meant that you would not judge people based on those physical characteristics, you know, if they were black or white or whatever, that would not factor a role.

00:55:13.000 Immediately after the Civil Rights Act went into effect, you had the courts and the bureaucracies interpreting it to mean the exact opposite, and that's why you have it so pervasive in the society. 0.61

00:55:24.000 Actually, if you look at the law, the whole debate leading up into it, the text of the law, It was to prevent that kind of thing.

00:55:31.000 But as we know, unelected people have kind of messed that up.

00:55:36.000 Michael Jones says it's all so tiresome, True.

00:55:40.000 And he said before that, that's the most infuriating thing about this astroturfed browbeating, creating hysteria over a symbolic issue Democrats don't even consider a bargaining chip.

00:55:52.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:55:53.000 And you understand that it's just about delaying the inevitable.

00:55:57.000 The Democrats are not really trying to.

00:56:00.000 They're not really trying to achieve what they want.

00:56:03.000 I think they're just trying to buy time.

00:56:05.000 They know demographics are on their side.

00:56:07.000 They know that the people that vote for Democrats, 90%, 70%, are ascendant in Texas, Arizona, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada, like every swing state, Virginia, North Carolina.

00:56:21.000 They're buying time.

00:56:22.000 They're buying time.

00:56:23.000 So they're not furiously working in the back rooms and the smoky chambers, trying to cobble together a new coalition, trying to figure out what's best for the people and all the rest.

00:56:34.000 It's like this group of Satanists who wants to hold on to power, and they're just delaying it so that by 2024 they don't really have to try anymore.

00:56:44.000 And that's exactly right.

00:56:45.000 That's the most sickening part about it. 0.90

00:56:48.000 Loco Murray says, Nick, the way you frame the JQ slash Israel stuff is spot on.

00:56:53.000 Low IQ people don't get it or worse, have ulterior motives.

00:56:57.000 Great show tonight.

00:56:58.000 Thank you, man.

00:56:59.000 And yeah, I mean, you have to really think about the framing of these issues.

00:57:03.000 I don't even think I do it in a way that's deceptive or in a way that's really distorting the truth too much.

00:57:09.000 I just tell the truth in a way that is compliant with the real world.

00:57:13.000 You know, people try and come on and paint it like it's this oversimplified black and white, us against them.

00:57:20.000 And, you know, that sounds like kind of a liberal thing to say.

00:57:23.000 But really, if you just come at it from this approach of it's real, I mean, these are the facts.

00:57:31.000 You can accept them or you cannot, but it's not really bigoted to point these things out.

00:57:35.000 You know, I think people have a much easier time digesting it.

00:57:37.000 For example, you point out.

00:57:39.000 That the clean break memo, which said we should destroy Iraq and Syria, was written by the people who worked for George W. Bush, who then destroyed Iraq and Syria.

00:57:49.000 So it's not really hard to make that connection. 0.71

00:57:52.000 You don't have to be a wacky, crazy national socialist to understand okay, the Israel lobby wields disproportionate and unjust influence over our government. 0.64

00:58:04.000 So you have that. 0.87

00:58:05.000 Then you look at this question of Jewish people in high positions of power and finance, banking, media, all the rest.

00:58:12.000 The term globalism.

00:58:14.000 Jewish people are a cosmopolitan, urban diaspora people, well educated.

00:58:21.000 What does all of that mean?

00:58:23.000 They're a diaspora people. 1.00

00:58:24.000 They've been a people without a land, or they were formerly since the second century. 0.99

00:58:29.000 And so what happens? 0.81

00:58:30.000 They're scattered across all the different countries, and they didn't make their way for the most part in the countryside.

00:58:35.000 They're an urban cosmopolitan people.

00:58:35.000 They went to the cities.

00:58:38.000 So they came into London, they came into Rome, they came into Berlin, and all these great cities.

00:58:44.000 They're urban. 0.99

00:58:45.000 Alienated from the rest of the country because they have this identity as a diaspora people that is different from the nation. 1.00

00:58:52.000 They're an educated people, right? 0.98

00:58:54.000 They're cosmopolitan.

00:58:55.000 They stick together. 0.97

00:58:56.000 And so, this is why when you look at the divergence between the elites of the country and the people, it's no wonder that you find a large percentage of Jewish people in the elites because they've been in the cities.

00:59:08.000 They have international connections.

00:59:10.000 They conduct their business across all the great capitals of the world, particularly in Europe, where finance is and all the rest.

00:59:18.000 They have this strong ethnic identity and ethnocentrism about them that's helped them survive for so long.

00:59:24.000 So, it's no wonder that they've been a part of this divergence between the elites, which they constitute a big part of, and the rest of the people.

00:59:32.000 So, when you explain it like that, people are like, oh, okay, that makes sense.

00:59:36.000 That's based on history, that's completely factual, and I believe it. 0.91

00:59:41.000 You know, but when you start telling people, actually, you know, I'm balding because of the Jews, I'm addicted to nicotine because the Jews, you know, and it's every, you know, I tripped on my way to work. 0.97

00:59:54.000 It's the protocols, you know, it's, That's when you lose people, or when you show up to a rally with an armband. 1.00

01:00:00.000 I mean, that's when you lose people.

01:00:01.000 So I just try and say the facts without a filter, without a sensor, but also not just being crazy.

01:00:10.000 So I hope that's informative.

01:00:12.000 Let's see.

01:00:13.000 Do we have any more Streamlabs, or is that going to do it for us tonight?

01:00:16.000 Looks like we got one more from Gaius Gracchus, who says, Gotta love that sweet, sweet justice regarding the SPLC.

01:00:24.000 I don't know why half of.

01:00:26.000 YouTube political corner doesn't sue them too.

01:00:28.000 Do you think you have a case, Nick?

01:00:31.000 I don't know.

01:00:31.000 It's tough to say because the internet's basically unregulated in terms of free speech.

01:00:38.000 I think there would be a case to be made against payment processors, maybe on YouTube.

01:00:42.000 I think Jared Taylor's case will be a big turning point, or hopefully it will be, and we'll be talking about it with him tomorrow.

01:00:49.000 The trick is that, you know, are they a monopoly?

01:00:52.000 That's the thing.

01:00:53.000 They haven't been identified as a monopoly.

01:00:55.000 They have to be first for you to have any real case, I believe.

01:00:58.000 But even still, I mean, I think the Civil Rights Act should apply to that.

01:01:01.000 The 14th Amendment should apply to political opinions.

01:01:04.000 I think they should.

01:01:06.000 I don't think they do, though, right now.

01:01:07.000 So it's tough to say.

01:01:09.000 The problem is the law doesn't really reflect what should be correct, it doesn't reflect the spirit of the law.

01:01:14.000 And that's how they've kind of gotten away with it.

01:01:17.000 But it looks like those are all our super chats and all the stream labs.

01:01:20.000 We're going to call it a show.

01:01:23.000 It's been a good talk about immigration, the children, responsibility.

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