James Fields was found guilty of first degree murder in the death of Heather Heyer and the other victim in the car that plowed into a crowd at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017. The jury was tasked with deciding whether or not he should be tried as an adult or a juvenile, and the verdict was delivered on Friday evening, August 9, 2019. In this episode, host Nicholas J. Fuentes and host Patrick Casey discuss the outcome of the trial, the reaction to the verdict, and what the alt-right should do now that they are no longer able to take credit for the outcome. Also, President Trump nominated a new U.N. ambassador and a new attorney general, but neither of them are good picks, and President Trump still hasn t nominated a U.S. Ambassador. America First, not globalism, will be our credo. It s going to be only America First. America First! - Wall Wall Wall, not Globalism, not the Globalist, Wall Wall. - Americanism, Not Globalism? Will be the credo of this generation? "The American People Will Come First." - The American People, not The Globalists, will come First!" - Wall, Wall, Not the Globalists! - "America First, Not The Globalist?" - The System Is Rigged?" - "The System Is Ranged" - "We all know the system is rigged, but we just have to wait for the system to work out the flaws in order to get to where we can have a fair shot at justice. - "It's rigged." - John McCain, right? - "Who told us it's rigged?" - "We don't know what we can change it? We don't have to change it, we have to make it? - It's not rigged? We're all rigged, we're not rigged, right, we'll change it until we do it? "We're all in it, right or not? We have to get it?" - President Trump, not better? - We're not better than we know it? - Is it rigged? - The system's rigged? -- ? - Is the system rigged? -- "We have a system that works for us, we know we're rigged, or we don't need it yet, we can get it right, right right, or it's not? .
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00:18:12.000It always happens that it's either we have plans already, and something big happens, you know, I already have plans to cover something on the show, or it's a call-in, or it's a guest, and something happens, or I take the night off, and something happens, you know, or I'm not there.
00:18:29.000It seems like, you know, things really hit the fan today.
00:18:31.000We saw a verdict was reached in the case with Fields from Charlottesville.
00:18:38.000James Fields, who was the individual who drove his car through the crowd of people at the Charlottesville protest last year.
00:18:46.000So they reached a verdict on him guilty on first-degree murder, which I think is a stretch.
00:18:56.000Robert Mueller released his report on Manafort and also on Cohen and I haven't gotten a chance, this was very recently, this was a couple of hours ago, I haven't gotten a chance to look over that in great detail, read all the documents and everything.
00:19:12.000The president tweeted that he was cleared of everything and there's no wrongdoing on his part.
00:19:16.000There are some things, at least from what I saw on Twitter, the limited amount that I saw which could
00:20:11.000We're gonna get to the calls, but what I really want to talk about tonight was the verdict in the James Fields case.
00:20:18.000They said that he committed first-degree murder.
00:20:20.000I have to tell you from what I saw from the trial and there's been a lot of pressure coming from these losers on the alt-right for people like myself and Patrick Casey and others to talk about the trial.
00:21:41.000And the reason they were able to charge him with that is because of some memes that he was posting prior to that and some of the comments he made.
00:21:48.000I don't know, you know, ultimately we don't know what made the jury's mind up, but those were some of the pieces of evidence that the prosecution used very strongly was the fact that in the lead up to the rally he posted memes, which were honestly, I see these memes on like boomer Facebook pages, but about, you know, oh you have a protest but I'm late to work and it shows somebody driving through a protest.
00:23:15.000Honestly, when it comes to the Wignats, it's difficult to have a lot of sympathy because, you know, like I said the other day, they go into these tough situations where they know, they know the score, right?
00:23:27.000I mean, you can't exactly plead ignorance that you go into this kind of a rally.
00:23:32.000What did I say on RSBN before Charlottesville?
00:23:34.000I said, I've got a really bad feeling about this.
00:23:36.000You know, and everybody faced consequences, whether it was employment, whether it was social, it was education, you know, they got kicked out of school or whatever.
00:23:44.000Or some people got tried for various crimes, but I think everybody knew the risks going in.
00:23:50.000When you're reckless like that, and what you post, and how you conduct yourself, and you find yourself in a situation like that, well, is it totally fair?
00:23:59.000You know, I think that's a miscarriage of justice, ultimately.
00:24:02.000I don't, I really don't believe you can make the case for first degree murder.
00:24:06.000You know, of course he drove through the crowd of people and he ended up killing somebody, but to say that it was premeditated, that's a different thing.
00:24:13.000I don't think it's all the way there, and you know, if they kill him for that, I think that's probably unjust.
00:24:19.000Now that said, people put themselves in that kind of a situation.
00:24:23.000It's sort of like, and look, we understand this with a lot of other different situations.
00:24:27.000When we look at people who go to, like, the Middle East,
00:24:31.000And they go hiking there and they get killed or raped or whatever.
00:24:36.000You know, what did you expect to happen, right?
00:24:38.000We see people that go into the migrant communities or they go to Africa, they get eaten by cannibals or whatever.
00:24:43.000You see this kind of stuff all the time where well-meaning, bleeding-heart liberals, they go out into the jungle, they go out into the barbarian town.
00:24:52.000They get skinned alive and everybody, oh wow, what a surprise, you know?
00:24:55.000So I think people should know the risks.
00:24:57.000But beyond that, it's a reflection on the leadership of the alt-right.
00:25:01.000And I think that's why people like Evan McLaren have been pushing really hard because maybe subconsciously they know that they're at least partly responsible.
00:25:11.000Because they brought everybody to these rallies, and this is not an isolated incident.
00:25:15.000Maybe if that was the one case, you could say, oh well, things went pretty sour there, but it was Charlottesville where somebody was arrested, young kid.
00:25:23.000It was Gainesville where somebody was arrested.
00:25:26.000It was Michigan where somebody was arrested.
00:25:29.000So just everywhere these people go, these alt-right
00:25:33.000Bozos, these alt-right clowns, everywhere they go, they leave a trail of destruction.
00:25:40.000I cannot think of a single person, I cannot think of a single example of somebody who crosses paths with Richard Spencer, Evan McLaren, NPI, that whole crew, and their life is better.
00:25:52.000I can't think of a single person that they come into contact with this click.
00:25:58.000And their life is better, or not substantially worse.
00:26:06.000You know, we've been talking in the last year, having kind of an internal discussion within the right about so-called optics, strategy, tactics, persuasion, and really what it amounts to is building a movement that is worthy of the goals that it seeks to achieve.
00:26:24.000In other words, you look at the alt-right, this was not a movement you could associate with in public, that you could be proud to be a part of, that you could tell anybody you're a part of, or even participate in without exposing yourself to substantial risk.
00:26:38.000And so had people like myself, and Patrick Casey, and Faith Goldie, and Jake Lloyd, and Jared Taylor, and, you know, all these guys.
00:27:09.000And so, a year later, and a little bit more than a year later, we see the results of the trial and people still haven't learned the lesson.
00:27:17.000I think that's a very tiny minority, however.
00:27:51.000If you're gonna do activism, if you're gonna do that kind of thing, you do it controlled, you vet your people, you pick people that look good, are competent, and you trust them, and you're in their inner circle.
00:28:04.000And you put together some kind of a demonstration that is meticulously planned.
00:28:31.000In Canada, with a platform that was sensible for working-class Canadians.
00:28:34.000Now, granted, it was in Toronto, and Toronto's like the New York of Canada.
00:28:38.000It's a shithole, so you can't really blame her for only getting third place, but, you know, she put forward a practical, political program for people to get behind, normal people to get behind, you know?
00:28:52.000Jake Lloyd's on InfoWars, which is relatively, compared to the, you know, some of the stuff
00:28:58.000In the past couple of years, kind of worked its way into the mainstream in the right, right?
00:29:02.000I mean, I'm not going to say InfoWars is mainstream, but compared to, like, some of the platforms we have going on, it's an upgrade, you know, and he's pushing a message which is very solid.
00:29:12.000So, we look at these guys, and Jared Taylor's another one with American Renaissance.
00:29:16.000I'm doing America first, so I think we are really turning over a new leaf.
00:29:37.000And look, I invite people to come on the show if you disagree with my assessment of the state of the right wing, if you're one of these people who believes I'm an optics cuck, okay, a so-called optics cuck or whatever, you know, you're one of these wignats that's still defending these clowns and losers, dysfunctional outcasts.
00:29:56.000I invite anybody to come in to the call-in show and tell me why I'm wrong.
00:30:31.000And it's something that, you know, when I was younger, I'm young, but when I was younger I didn't really think about this kind of stuff too much.
00:30:38.000I don't know, maybe I was just so fixated on retarded stuff like politics that I didn't really get a sense for
00:30:47.000You know, family and that kind of thing, but I realized I don't have a brother.
00:30:50.000I really would have loved to have had a little brother, an older brother, you know, some kind of sibling like that, because I have a sister, but you know how that is.
00:30:58.000Not that there's anything, not that it's bad, but it's, you know, you want to have that kind of a bond, and then I realized, wait a second, but I do have brotherhood.
00:32:10.000One of these days I'm gonna get a Jewish producer and, you know, then nothing will stand in our way.
00:32:17.000Once I get that kind of money I'll be able to get all the latest tech and everything, but for now I'm on the fringe budget, but we'll start pulling people in here.
00:32:27.000Let me just make sure our sound is all set up and everything, and
00:32:35.000Let's see, so we'll bring in some of our first callers here.
00:33:31.000Okay, it was Communist, it's East, but you know, Central Europe.
00:33:35.000The thing is, it's, I don't, I feel like if you go to a Mediterranean country, unless you're going to a Mediterranean country and not really getting the full experience, I'm gonna keep hitting the goulash, okay?
00:33:46.000Uh, you know, not that it was bad, it was good!
00:33:49.000But, I go to Europe and they're like, oh, here's this plate of, you know, beef water, and bland bread, they call this bread dumpling, and I'm like, yeah, okay, but uh,
00:33:59.000Honestly, a Big Mac is better than this.
00:34:18.000I wonder slapped me across the face a little bit, but anyway anyway I don't know maybe that's a little weird, but we had this weird like meat pie thing And I just I was like you know I want to get pizza.
00:34:29.000I want to get Mediterranean so that you know Yeah, that's right, but but no they had some good ham and they had this turtleneck pastry for Christmas was pretty good and
00:34:43.000Well, I was gonna ask you about Fortnite Season 7.
00:35:00.000I know a lot of the Fortnite purists will say, I know a lot of retards like this where, you know, they introduce something cool, and they're like, oh, this is totally, like, unfair.
00:35:11.000This totally, like, messes with the experience.
00:35:24.000It's about time we got some diversity in terms of the, uh,
00:35:28.000The climate and I like the creative mode is very very cool I thought that was because playground I didn't really enjoy but the creative is what they needed so I like season 7 a lot I'm a big fan
00:36:53.000I wanted to say, uh, that I agree with you about James Fields.
00:36:57.000Although I mostly, you know, I blame the leadership of that whole thing.
00:37:03.000I blame Richard Spencer and all those weirdos for what happened.
00:37:08.000I actually kind of feel bad for James Fields because, you know, he's 21.
00:37:12.000He probably got sucked into the whole thing and then he just did whatever.
00:37:17.000And then, yeah, I kind of feel bad for him, but you know,
00:37:21.000I'm glad that ended all the rally stuff.
00:37:25.000Yeah, well for some people it's still going on bake Alaska's getting sued by like Barack Obama or something for Charlottesville so But yeah, I mean that was the big one.
00:37:36.000We're finally you know moving on from that chapter.
00:37:38.000Yeah Yeah, you and Patrick Casey have had
00:37:49.000Well, you know, it's funny because we didn't get along for a short period of time, but even throughout that, and I said this, you know, I had massive respect for him.
00:37:57.000He's the right guy and he's in the right position.
00:39:33.000I think the importance of Trump is undeniable.
00:39:36.000People can be disappointed that the wall perhaps might not be built or that immigration might not be reformed, but there's no understating, or rather, there's no overstating the influence and the importance of Trump as a political figure.
00:39:50.000So yeah, I basically agree with the premise that
00:39:57.000He's demonstrated a way that we can win a path forward.
00:40:03.000That is contingent on whether or not Republicans are willing to pick up where he left off.
00:40:08.000Because if they don't, if they replace him with Nikki Haley or Mike Pence, some standard, conventional Republican, then probably not.
00:40:17.000It's probably going to go back to the status quo and that's going to be the electoral winter for Republicans.
00:40:22.000So yeah, I think there's a great potential for that to happen because Trump really has opened up the field and he's shaken everything up and he has demonstrated.
00:40:58.000Can Ted Cruz sort of bridge the gap between where he started out on this journey as like an evangelical, Zionist, Christian conservative to a more Trumpian figure with a harder emphasis on immigration restriction and
00:41:44.000I think he's in a much stronger role as a pundit, but, hey, you know, it happened in, um, it happened in 19, what was it, 1992, when Pat Buchanan tried to primary George H.W.
00:41:57.000Now, Pat Buchanan, he was a political operative before he was a commentator, but, you know, I could definitely see somebody like an Ann Coulter or a Tucker Carlson or somebody along that line
00:42:07.000Running for president to the right of a popular Republican in order to force them over on some key issues.
00:42:14.000Perhaps that, you know, that could happen, but... Yeah.
00:44:35.000I feel like the... Yeah, there's... I mean, I think I read something once that said people are less likely to vote for someone with facial hair because they see them as untrustworthy, but I don't understand it, honestly.
00:44:47.000I trust Ted Moore now with the beard, I'll be honest.
00:44:51.000Yeah, I don't know, because you look at a lot of, like, the more bureaucratic type people, and to me, I look at, like, a Barack Obama.
00:45:22.000I just don't think he would look good with a beard, I'm sorry.
00:45:43.000As a young black man, to see somebody who looks like myself in the White House, as opposed to like, you know, raping people or killing people, but to see a clean cut, somebody who doesn't talk with a Negro dialect to be in the White House.
00:47:04.000I remember the first time I heard about PewDiePie I was at the public beach down in my small town there and some kids when I was in fifth grade were talking about him.
00:47:14.000This is back in the days where he's, you know, doing amnesia and screaming about barrels.
00:47:18.000But, you know, PewDiePie, he's been a figure prominent throughout, you know, my entire
00:47:23.000Conscious life pretty much and you know, I got a lot of respect for the guy me too.
00:47:26.000He's not only gotten better with age It's true.
00:47:29.000Well, and you know, he represents something very important.
00:47:32.000I don't think the symbolism is lost on people that it's PewDiePie the Swedish white male gamer versus some global homo media conglomerate from fucking India and
00:47:45.000You know, I don't think the symbolism was part of my language.
00:47:49.000I think T-Series represents this sort of like total bug media that's totally soulless and it's just... I don't know if you... it's very similar to K-pop in a way.
00:49:26.000Yeah, the PewDiePie thing, I've been watching that pretty closely the past couple of days.
00:49:29.000I think he's up, for people that don't know, for the uninitiated, alright, if you're not a Chad Zoomer gamer, PewDiePie's the number one YouTuber on the planet.
00:49:40.000He's got something like 74 million subscribers.
00:50:21.000And so now that the third world is coming online, you know, they got like a trillion people over there now They're able to blow up a channel like t-series to become number one So it's been the sort of spiritual battle PewDiePie's been trying to edge him out.
00:50:35.000He's about 520,000 subs ahead at the time of this stream
00:51:16.000Now, I haven't been there, but I talk to people and they say that people will literally be driving down the highway, stop on the highway, get in the median, and shit in the street, okay?
00:51:27.000And, like, that's kind of like what's happening to planet Earth.
00:51:31.000That's basically what's happening to the world.
00:51:33.000It's like you've got all these smart cool funny gamers hanging out in like Europe and America and we're it's very nice you know we're having a blast and kind of there's a big shadow looming over our nice little settlements and projects which is about a hundred billion of these people who don't use toilets.
00:51:59.000That's all I don't know I don't know how I can even couch that in a way where it you know isn't gonna end up in a right-wing watch article but I mean that's it's what it is what it is they're just gonna outnumber us and and with the help of some media savvy people you know they're gonna displace us so but anyway go subscribe to PewDiePie you have to be part of the fight I subscribed I told all my followers to subscribe so you got to check it out
00:52:25.000So I'll bring in, let's see, we'll bring in another caller here.
00:52:28.000Why don't we hear from, how about Zoomer5000?
00:52:30.000If you got Zoomer in there, and you have to be an authentic Zoomer, I don't want any, you know, I don't want any frauds, but we like the Zoomers, remember.
00:54:50.000I was listening to your podcast while epically gaming, and my mother, I guess, she heard some background noises.
00:54:58.000And my dad comes up to me the next day and he's like, Hey, hey son, um, your mother said that she heard you listening to a white supremacist podcast.
00:57:39.000I... It's tough, because, you know, I think we would all like there to be more people in the conservative movement who are authentic and honest and... I appreciate the compliment, but it's also, you know, I humbly agree that it is true, you know, there just isn't a lot of people that are, you know, trying to accomplish what I'm trying to accomplish.
00:58:16.000You talk about this, you know, joining your conservative, you know, parties, organizations in your area, or joining your college, Republicans or whatever.
00:58:28.000So I'm searching for all this stuff to maybe join and there's like nothing.
00:58:32.000There's really nothing or like they've only been around for the election cycle and that was it.
00:58:38.000So it's really hard to get those type of, I don't know, those organizations and people to connect with when there's like nothing.
00:58:45.000Yeah, well, in college it's a lot easier because, again, it largely depends on your campus.
00:58:53.000When I was at BU, you had Young Americans for Liberty, you had College Republicans.
00:59:59.000Yeah, I'm the retard that doesn't save the name but saves the numbers, so I'm like, alright.
01:00:05.000Yeah, you gotta, you gotta write down some other, you know, they say it's also good not only to, you know, have the name at least, but also that you write down, you know, personal details about people.
01:00:15.000It goes a long way, you know, if you pick up the phone, you call somebody three months later and you know, you know, what's going on in their life.
01:00:21.000So, that's my advice, young Zoomer, my Zoomer brother.
01:02:20.000So I don't have more for you on that question, we don't really discuss that.
01:02:25.000I know my, I believe it was my great-grandfather had some certain views about the other one, which were not negative, so I'll say that much, which is pretty based in Red Pilt.
01:02:39.000Let's see, we'll bring in, how about Pickle Boy?
01:03:07.000I think I speak for the silent majority here.
01:03:13.000We have to do something about the Joe the Boomer problem.
01:03:20.000I believe he is abusing his at everyone privileges for video games and promoting his own content and I think he's riding your coattails big guy.
01:06:39.000I was just hanging out there with the lads, I said, you know, we're having fun, we're getting some laughs, we're having a little good time, you know, might as well stream it and share it with the rest of the guys, you know?
01:09:32.000I find myself in the bathroom and I'm like, you know... Hey, look, I never bring it up to you because I figure you're a busy guy, but if you want to try it, I'll send you one.
01:09:59.000You know, look, I find myself sometimes on the toilet having a little, you know, fiber deficiency, and I find myself sort of propping myself up using whatever I can find, and I think to myself, you know, might this be easier if I had
01:13:49.000You know, Lord knows there's a lot of different things I've said on the show which people could say you're not allowed to say in polite company.
01:14:22.000People have claimed, I don't know if you've seen this, Vic Berger, among others, one of these callers, has said that on one of the America First shows over a year ago that I picked my nose.
01:14:33.000They say not only did I pick it, but also I consumed.
01:14:38.000And so I want to put the rumors to bed.
01:14:39.000We're going to take a look and we're going to watch it.
01:16:18.000I think it's... I think it's inconclusive.
01:16:21.000But I think the burden of evidence, which is required to say that it is a pick, I don't think it's met.
01:16:28.000You know, it's sort of like James Fields.
01:16:30.000You know, I think you could see where... I think you could see, you know, if you're inclined to have the same interpretation of the left, I think you could see where it might be misconstrued.
01:16:42.000But I think if you're really looking at it very carefully, I think if you're looking at the...
01:16:49.000I think you're looking at the angle here.
01:16:51.000Again, the angle where we come in, it's coming in that way.
01:20:19.000Very disturbing, very troubling if true, you know, chilling to the core, but I just wanted to clear that up.
01:20:26.000I know it's a, I correct myself, it's a fan account, but I was a little bit troubled that he's, you know, kind of associated with your brand, he's posting that kind of thing.
01:20:34.000Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and disavow that.
01:20:39.000As a Jewish man, I, you know, I declared today National Lockup of Nazi Day.
01:20:46.000That's what, you know, needs to happen, so.
01:23:21.000I'm just kidding, but I have been reading Atlas Shrugged unironically.
01:23:25.000And look, I understand your positions on free trade, and I'm actually with you on that.
01:23:30.000So, I mean, it's not like I accept all of her premises and her entire philosophy, but I think there's a lot to be said about rational self-interest as it pertains to a nation as well as to the individual.
01:24:43.000You know, today I was reading an article from the New York Times about some woman who, she was married to her husband and had a child, and she didn't, like, really love her husband anymore, so she got a boyfriend and kept the husband.
01:24:54.000And the boyfriend moved in with the family.
01:24:57.000And throughout the article, it's, I want this, I want that, I want to have my son live with me all the time.
01:25:03.000And I also want my husband with me, and I also want a boyfriend, and I also want this, and I want that, and I want it that way.
01:25:09.000And what we've sort of become in society, if you look at the way young people talk, they talk about taking care of me.
01:25:15.000I've got to take care of myself, do it for me, not care about what anybody else thinks.
01:25:19.000This sort of radical self-interest has poisoned society, and we've forgotten that the organizing unit of a society is not the individual, it's the family.
01:25:29.000And I think that's the mistake that Ayn Rand and others make.
01:25:32.000They think that the building block of the society is the individual, when in fact it's the family.
01:25:38.000Because without the family, you don't have the society.
01:25:40.000We are defined by our relation to one another, not in a vacuum.
01:25:45.000Like our distant cousin type relations, basically.
01:25:48.000Being a member of the same nation of people, right?
01:25:50.000Well, I mean that's... We're all kind of from the same...
01:25:55.000But more specifically, I'm talking about our relationship with our mother and father, and then subsequently a husband or a wife, and then the child.
01:26:03.000And so that trinity of, you know, obviously two people who create a child and the child, that's the building block.
01:26:09.000That's the ordering unit of the society.
01:26:13.000So, when people talk about the self-interest, I think, okay, you know, maybe the interest of a family, and then by extension a community, and then ultimately the nation,
01:27:09.000And he's the, uh, he's the metal kingpin.
01:27:12.000And it really does show you, like, there's this kind of... it's too much about self-interest.
01:27:18.000There's not enough responsibility to the people.
01:27:20.000And that's what she just rails on throughout the whole book, is the idea that people should have a concern for the national interest, or the public interest, or for people other than themselves.
01:27:34.000And, and it does come from that, um, that collectivist versus individualist perspective.
01:27:40.000The problem is I, I see it's like, um, it's almost like you're, you're stuck between a dichotomy of these two, uh, views where, uh, is the, is the collective a real thing or is the, is it only the individual?
01:27:53.000And, uh, if I think if you go too far in one direction, you, uh, you end up in an ultra statist kind of government, which I don't really, I don't want it to be too statist.
01:28:03.000I mean, you have to have a certain amount of personal liberty, and you also want to have people looking out for the interests of the people around them.
01:28:13.000That's where pragmatism becomes important, I think.
01:28:16.000I don't know how to even out that odd, because I'm stuck between these two ideas.
01:28:24.000I don't know if there's a middle ground.
01:28:27.000Well, the problem is just the sort of atomistic liberal ideology, which
01:28:33.000Again, it really comes from John Locke and this whole blank slate idea.
01:28:37.000And the problem with liberalism is that it exists only in abstraction.
01:28:40.000You know, they've sort of conceptualized this society where the individual is born and the individual has no preconceptions, no prejudice, they are a blank slate.
01:28:52.000You know, upon which a society, you know, projects their own social constructs and things like that.
01:28:58.000They're built just by free will, right?
01:28:59.000And then the individual goes out into the society and has this totally unique, totally autonomous freedom of choice and everything like that.
01:29:09.000You know, that really doesn't take shape.
01:29:11.000We find that people are tremendously influenced by their surroundings, by their parents, by their community.
01:29:17.000And that's the kind of thing that we should nurture, not this sort of, again, atomistic individuals doing whatever they want, living hedonistically and everything else.
01:29:26.000You know, it's a family-based society.
01:29:34.000That's why they frame it as collectivist versus individualist, so that there's, you know, so that you end up in this conundrum where you either have
01:29:44.000You know, the Soviet Union and the Nazis, where the state controls everything, and it's totalitarian.
01:29:49.000Or you have, you know, this sort of radical individualist society.
01:29:53.000And actually, it's funny, because what individualism really means is just that individuals are, you know, they think they're individuals, but they're controlled by the media, or they're controlled by finance.
01:30:03.000You know, Spengler wrote about this, that the modern society, in the wake of the printing press, and then with mass media, is that big money just controls the society.
01:31:09.000It's much harder to do that when the nation state is spread so far and wide with so many different types of people.
01:31:15.000In the case of the United States, it seems like a lot more difficult to try to concentrate power on the federal level and not try to divvy it up into states and also remain this like powerful hegemonic entity in the world.
01:32:06.000That's more about a storyline and it, it weaves in the philosophy, but one of the observations, one of the thoughts I had about Ayn Rand was that she kind of, I think her baseline, uh, ideas are, first of all, she's an atheist and, uh, and she's also pro-free markets because she came from a socialist country where, uh, her family was treated pretty horribly by the system.
01:32:32.000And I think she kind of formed her entire philosophy.
01:32:35.000To be able to cohere with that, to make it all fit together.
01:32:40.000So when you look at objectivism, it's got a lot of goofy ideas in it.
01:32:45.000We've this idea of a, there is an ethic because, um, I don't know, because, because humans have to serve, serve a purpose for some, some other reason.
01:32:53.000I mean, it's, it's really, it's kind of a goofy philosophy, but, uh, that's, that was kind of a thought I had that she, she basically took two things that she believes and then she kind of formed a whole set of ideas around it to make it work.
01:33:06.000Yeah, yeah, well, and that's really the big problem.
01:33:08.000Any ideology that is not Catholic is a problem.
01:33:11.000Any ideology that's honest to God, that's the truth.
01:33:14.000Catholicism, you know, if you, as somebody who was formerly less religious, I think people that are not religious don't understand that if you believe God is real, that sort of defines your whole worldview.
01:33:26.000You know, if you believe that God revealed truth, right, and it's in the Bible and it's in the Catechism,
01:33:32.000Well, you can't really pretend that that's just one among thousands of other totally equal and viable explanations.
01:33:40.000So to me, as somebody who's Catholic, I see everything that is not based in Catholicism, not based on revealed truth, as flawed.
01:33:48.000And I think, you know, the history speaks for it.
01:35:33.000So do you have, excuse me, do you have anything on your mind or are you just... I wasn't really expecting to get pulled on, but yeah, I guess, what do you think about, like,
01:35:45.000It's kind of a big picture question, so it's hard to answer, I get it.
01:36:00.000It seems the worse they are, the worse the future generations will be, because women these days are so bad, and they're going to be the mothers of future generations.
01:36:08.000So their daughters are going to grow up to be just as bad, if not worse.
01:36:12.000So I don't even know what we can do to save women.
01:36:15.000Yeah, well, in my opinion, the way that we fix the women is by fixing the men, honestly, because, you know, you'll find, you know, on the one hand we talk about how women are not political people, and the flip side of that is women's politics is basically determined by men's politics.
01:37:38.000The difference is though that there is a big problem in the right of people who are right wing and they say, oh, you know, women won't go out with me.
01:37:44.000And it's like, well, what do you really do to deserve to go out with women?
01:37:48.000You know, people who don't work out, they don't take care of themselves, they don't have good hygiene, they don't have money, you know, and it's like, oh, surprise, surprise, nobody, nobody wants to mate with you.
01:37:58.000So I think the answer is that men have to get tough.
01:38:34.000If it's at a societal level where there's a big movement about just men being men again, maybe things will start changing, but at the rate we're going, it just seems like every generation, the women get worse and worse, and it seems that it's correlated because of the previous generation.
01:38:49.000Yeah, everyone's just kind of got to figure it out for themselves, honestly, you know?
01:38:55.000At least the way that I look at it, it's like, I want to have kids, I'm going to have kids, and so I'm going to do what's necessary for that to happen.
01:39:03.000I feel like a lot of people want to sit and, you know, crave societal solutions, societal, you know, they look at societal problems and, you know, this kind of talk, but, you know, really it's a simple question.
01:39:19.000You have to look at it, I think, at a day-by-day, case-by-case kind of a basis, and, you know, maybe in a few generations we'll fix it, but no easy answers at this point.
01:41:33.000But I go in, I put in my order, I get a Big Mac, I get a Medium Fry, I get a McDouble, and I say, I don't want any mustard on it, I don't want any cheese on it, I want extra ketchup.
01:41:44.000They bring out the food, what do you know, ketchup, regular ketchup, and there's mustard and there's cheese.
01:41:52.000So, but I didn't really want to get up and complain, you know, I just want to eat my lunch, go in peace, I don't want to have to go up, excuse me, excuse me, I, you know, it's just more trouble than it's worth, honestly, and it shouldn't be that way.
01:42:28.000I go in there, you don't even have to take my order, you just get it printed out on the receipt, you assemble the sandwich, and you can't get it right, I gotta go up, and it's the little things like that that are gonna make you blow your head off.
01:43:52.000At the time we got in a fight about religion and then he unfollowed me and then I DM'd him and he didn't respond so I called him a fag on Nationalist Review and then he emailed me and he's like, you're out of IE because you're an infighter and all this other stuff and I don't like to talk about it because I don't like to drudge up the bad blood, you know, it's water under the bridge right now, but...
01:44:14.000That's the thing about what you really don't understand it until you're in media.
01:44:19.000You really don't understand it until you have a little bit of notoriety.
01:44:23.000The extent to which people just make things up out of thin air.
01:44:26.000The extent to which people lie and create deception about your life.
01:44:31.000You don't really realize it until you're in it.
01:44:34.000Maybe if you're a more social person this happens on like a different scale among your social circle, but
01:44:40.000The level that people make things up, it's honestly surprising, because I don't make things up about people, but I can't tell you how many times I end up on Poll, or I end up on 4chan, and I see a thread about myself, and it's like, oh yeah, Nick is an illegal immigrant, or Nick's father's an illegal immigrant, or people say, yeah, Nick is a Sephardic Jew, and he edited his 23andMe to hide it, and people edit my 23andMe to reflect DNA that isn't there!
01:47:55.000It's somewhat pricey if you're not a student.
01:47:57.000That's why it's kind of a Zoomer's affair, because if you're in school, you're able to get in pretty cheap, but otherwise it's going to cost you.
01:48:03.000It's pretty substantial, but I'd like to meet some of my Zoomer friends.
01:48:07.000We'll be, you know, we'll be the gang, the gang of nibbas, and we'll be T-posing on Jared Holt and all the others, so that'll be the occasion.
01:48:17.000Cyrus says I will totally vote for Andrew Yang over Trump in 2020.
01:49:00.000But if you're calling Trump low IQ, unless, you know, you're higher than the president, you have more than a few billion dollars, and you're a bigger celebrity, you got more than 50 million followers on Twitter, like, you know.
01:49:13.000Futurist Caesar says, try Team Fortress 2 and here's to the Big Mac Fund.
01:49:17.000Well thank you, and I'm probably not going to do the TF2 big guy, not really my thing.
01:49:23.000But hey, thank you for the Big Mac shekels.
01:49:27.000Cloudstar says, Nick did you see Trump's tweet on Rex Tillerson?
01:49:31.000It was kind of funny, but I think it's been his only tweet that I think was really dumb where I shake my head.
01:50:36.000You know, the guy that can't run a website, have a successful marriage, have a successful family, have a successful organization, have any relationship with anybody.