America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - April 26, 2016


Ten Silly Arguments from the 2016 Election | The Nicholas J. Fuentes Show Episode 7


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In this episode of the Nicholas J. Fuentes Show, we discuss 10 silly arguments that both sides of the 2016 election can agree are a little bit silly when we look at them in the context of the principles underlying them.

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00:00:05.000 I'm Nicholas J. Fuentes.
00:00:06.000 You're watching the Nicholas J. Fuentes Show.
00:00:09.000 Today's topic, we're going to talk about 10 silly arguments from the 2016 election.
00:00:14.000 Now, I thought of this idea because I talk to a lot of conservatives and liberals about the election, and I find that on both sides, there's a lot of misinformation, there's a lot of wrong ideas.
00:00:25.000 People don't look at it with the proper context.
00:00:26.000 So I thought I'd break down 10 arguments that I think both sides can agree are a little bit silly when we actually focus for the principles underlying them.
00:00:35.000 So, my least favorite argument, we'll start with this one.
00:00:39.000 Is that Bernie can't pay for his programs.
00:00:41.000 Now, of course, Bernie can't pay for his programs.
00:00:43.000 But my problem with when conservatives say this is that they've already seeded that they're okay.
00:00:49.000 That the argument is, well, if they were fiscally solvent, then universal health care would be fine and we could totally provide free education for everybody.
00:00:56.000 The problem with free education, free health care is that they're immoral, not that they're unaffordable.
00:01:01.000 I mean, saying that the reason we should oppose Bernie Sanders is because we can't afford the programs is like saying we should oppose the Holocaust because there's no way he could kill that many people in that short a time.
00:01:11.000 The problem is because, principally, as conservatives, as someone who adheres to the principles of the founding of the Declaration of the Constitution, they're inconsistent with them.
00:01:20.000 And the rights to education and health care, they're not in the Constitution.
00:01:24.000 In Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, it doesn't sanction spending by the House on either of those provisions.
00:01:29.000 So that's why I think that argument is totally silly for conservatives to make.
00:01:33.000 You're already giving the liberals a false premise to argue that what they're doing is acceptable or right and not stealing.
00:01:39.000 The next argument is similar.
00:01:41.000 Health care is a human right.
00:01:43.000 You hear this a lot from Bernie Sanders, and he kind of just says it.
00:01:46.000 I happen to believe that health care is a human right.
00:01:49.000 No, it isn't.
00:01:50.000 And every declaration that can be stated without evidence or justification can be just as easily refuted without evidence or justification.
00:01:58.000 But because intellectually I aspire to be a little bit of a different caliber than Bernie Sanders, I will say that health care is not a human right because positive rights, the provision of action for another human being, naturally infringes on negative rights.
00:02:11.000 I'll show you what I mean.
00:02:12.000 So if I'm ailing, I have a cold, and say my production guy over here, Evan, is a doctor, Now, for me to have a right to health care would obligate him to come and serve me.
00:02:23.000 Even if he doesn't want to, even if he's doing something else, he's obligated to.
00:02:27.000 So he's not free to pursue his happiness.
00:02:30.000 He's not entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the negative rights that are guaranteed to all people by our Creator in the Declaration of Independence.
00:02:37.000 And another thing that the founders recognized was that rights are not the government's to give.
00:02:42.000 The government can't say, well, now you have rights to food, now you have a right to health care.
00:02:45.000 That's not the government's place.
00:02:46.000 Our rights come from God, and you have to determine them through metaphysics.
00:02:49.000 Or morality or religion.
00:02:51.000 We can't just baselessly determine what's best through pragmatism.
00:02:54.000 The next argument Bernie is a good man.
00:02:57.000 This is one of the worst arguments that I hear, and Milo Yiannopoulos talks about this as well is that the scapegoat, or not the scapegoat, but the way that people get around Bernie Sanders being so impractical and radical is, well, I don't agree with everything, but he's doing the right thing.
00:03:13.000 He's a good man.
00:03:14.000 Even conservatives will say this.
00:03:15.000 He's the most genuine guy, he's the most honest guy.
00:03:18.000 And I disagree with that.
00:03:20.000 And this is kind of because of the culture that celebrates weakness.
00:03:24.000 That we've been indoctrinated into that because someone means well, that they have good intentions, that that makes them a good person.
00:03:31.000 I am of the contrary opinion.
00:03:32.000 Just because you say things that you have good intentions and you have good motives, that doesn't make you a good person.
00:03:37.000 Bernie Sanders is a man who, for his entire life, has leeched off taxpayer money.
00:03:42.000 He's never really had a real job, at least in the last 30 years when he's been a representative and a senator.
00:03:48.000 Someone that espouses an ideology like democratic socialism.
00:03:51.000 First of all, Bernie Sanders is not a democratic socialist, he's a social democrat.
00:03:54.000 In fact, the Prime Minister of Denmark has come out and said, Bernie Sanders, you are not a socialist, neither are we.
00:04:00.000 We are democratic socialists.
00:04:02.000 If you look on Wikipedia, the measures that Bernie Sanders supports, such as free health care and regulating capitalism and free education, that's social democracy, not democratic socialism.
00:04:13.000 Something as reckless as mislabeling yourself as one of the most bankrupt and murderous ideologies of the 20th century, socialism, that on its own is immoral behavior.
00:04:22.000 But on top of that, you're going to advance a cause like universal health care and universal education that are destructive and impractical and will lead to the demise of America if you're looking at the basic facts behind them.
00:04:33.000 We did a show about this.
00:04:35.000 Last or two months ago, which said that his free education and health care would cost $46 trillion.
00:04:41.000 If you're bankrupting the country with $50 trillion in additional debt, you don't have money to spend on Medicare, on Medicaid, on defense, and when you don't have defense, you lose freedom in America.
00:04:52.000 And this is one small example of the impracticality that is so reckless and cannot be moral.
00:04:59.000 The next argument that I've heard from conservatives and socialists the conservative argument against Bernie Sanders is.
00:05:05.000 America is a capitalist country.
00:05:07.000 Bernie Sanders can't be president.
00:05:08.000 He's a socialist.
00:05:09.000 That doesn't work.
00:05:10.000 That's not compatible.
00:05:12.000 The problem with that is that it doesn't understand the motives of the left and of Bernie Sanders supporters.
00:05:20.000 They're not playing the same game that we are.
00:05:22.000 This assumption that they're trying to adhere to the principles of the founding country, no, they're trying to fundamentally transform the country.
00:05:28.000 That's what Barack Obama said in 2008.
00:05:31.000 So I wholeheartedly disagree with this argument that it's a disqualifier that they disagree with the founding principles.
00:05:37.000 Wake up, that's been happening for the past 10 years.
00:05:40.000 The left has diverged into progressivism and leftism that is actually regressive if you look at its effects and its principles.
00:05:48.000 So, no, I don't think they're incompatible.
00:05:50.000 I think we're fighting the wrong argument if we're saying that you're incompatible.
00:05:53.000 They're trying to change the system.
00:05:55.000 The argument that America is a socialist country is just not true.
00:05:58.000 Socialist apologists will use this argument.
00:06:00.000 They'll say, well, actually, you are for socialism.
00:06:03.000 Even though you call Obama a commie, you use roads and libraries.
00:06:07.000 Not true.
00:06:08.000 Roads are not socialist because the government does not build roads.
00:06:11.000 They pay for roads, but who do they hire to build them?
00:06:13.000 Private contractors.
00:06:14.000 Socialism, by definition, means the public ownership of the means of production.
00:06:19.000 That means you have a monopoly over them.
00:06:20.000 That's what happened in the Soviet Union the government is a sole distributor and supplier of certain resources.
00:06:26.000 So, just because the government provides certain public services that the private sector doesn't do well doesn't make them socialist.
00:06:33.000 You know what was socialist, though?
00:06:34.000 The Soviet Union. 0.98
00:06:35.000 The next argument Donald Trump is a racist.
00:06:38.000 Now, we just did a big debate with Michael Gilgrand on Donald Trump, and this was kind of a small part of it, but I'd like to expound.
00:06:45.000 Donald Trump is not a racist, and I'm not one to stick my neck out for Donald Trump's policies.
00:06:50.000 I don't think that the moratorium on Muslim immigration is practical.
00:06:53.000 I don't think it'll work.
00:06:54.000 I think that a lot of his rhetoric towards Mexicans and immigrants is incendiary, and maybe it might be counterproductive.
00:07:01.000 But I don't think that's what makes him a racist.
00:07:03.000 He's not a racist.
00:07:04.000 And you break down the syntax of actually what he says, and nowhere in it does he exclude people or attribute certain characteristics to people because of their race.
00:07:13.000 You break down what he says about immigration, and it's that we can't have an unsecure border.
00:07:17.000 He says he's fine with legal immigration.
00:07:19.000 If you were a racist, you wouldn't be.
00:07:21.000 The problem is with illegal immigration because it's a national security and a fiscal problem.
00:07:25.000 You look at the problem with the moratorium on Muslim immigration.
00:07:28.000 That's not a racist proposal in itself, namely because Islam is not a race, but secondarily because it was in response to radical Islamic terrorism.
00:07:37.000 And a lot of people don't like to use that term because maybe it appropriates a much broader moderate Muslim community to the very small sect of extremists. 0.61
00:07:47.000 But the policy proposal was not in response to all Muslims being terrorists, but when they're able to infiltrate and inspire lone wolves in places like Paris and Brussels, maybe we need to take serious, drastic action.
00:07:58.000 But that alone doesn't make him racist. 0.59
00:08:02.000 The next argument that we have is that Donald Trump is unelectable.
00:08:07.000 I don't dispute that Donald Trump might be unelectable.
00:08:09.000 I dispute that we should be determining our candidates based on electability.
00:08:14.000 This was an argument that was used in 1996 to put Bob Dole in Bill Clinton's way to get destroyed.
00:08:19.000 This was the argument to put John McCain in Barack Obama's way to get destroyed.
00:08:23.000 This was the argument in 2012 to put nice guy Mitt Romney up against Barack Obama.
00:08:28.000 Excuse me.
00:08:29.000 And Obamacare once again to get destroyed.
00:08:31.000 They talked going up into this election about Marco Rubio being the most electable guy, except that he wasn't elected in a single state except for Minnesota.
00:08:39.000 The only state, by the way, which did not vote for Reagan in 1984.
00:08:43.000 So, not exactly a state that conservatives want to win.
00:08:46.000 The argument with Donald Trump not being electable stems from a fear of Donald Trump and conservatism.
00:08:52.000 And anybody that's making the argument based on the polling, I think, has not learned the lesson of this election.
00:08:58.000 You look at the early polls.
00:09:00.000 In July and August, that had Jeb Bush and Scott Walker at 25% and at 15% saying these guys were going to run away with the election, and it didn't happen.
00:09:09.000 You looked at the polls for Bernie Sanders, where he was 50% under Hillary Clinton, and now they're almost tied nationally.
00:09:16.000 Anyone that's projecting what the general election is going to look like based on polling when the general hasn't started has not learned the lessons of the primary. 0.99
00:09:24.000 The next silly argument of this election is that Ted Cruz is crazy or an idiot or a theocrat. 0.99
00:09:31.000 This mostly stems from ignorance of what Ted Cruz's actual policy positions are. 1.00
00:09:35.000 I've talked to many conservatives, excuse me, many liberals who don't know a thing about Ted Cruz's policies.
00:09:44.000 Pause for the cause, baby.
00:09:51.000 Pulling Marco Rubio there.
00:09:54.000 Even conservatives who say that Ted Cruz is too conservative, they don't know why.
00:09:59.000 If you press them on what's so conservative about Ted Cruz and they don't understand, I talked to one conservative and I said, why don't You like him?
00:10:05.000 He said, I don't like the way he pronounces Ayatollah Khamenei.
00:10:08.000 Well, that's not a reason, okay?
00:10:10.000 The liberals who say that he's, and they're the more, they have the more convictions, I guess, and the more ground to stand on.
00:10:16.000 They're afraid because he's a real conservative, and they have a right to be because he is.
00:10:20.000 But I've talked to other liberals who think that he's going to turn America into a theocracy, and that is fundamentally misguided because Ted Cruz is a 10th Amendment candidate, and we've never had one of those before.
00:10:30.000 We've had Second Amendment Republicans, we've had Fourth Amendment libertarians, we've had First Amendment Democrats and Republicans.
00:10:37.000 We've never really had, with the exception of maybe Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich, we've never really had a mainstream 10th Amendment president since 9 11.
00:10:46.000 And the 10th Amendment, of course, reserved powers not enumerated to the federal government in the Constitution to the states.
00:10:53.000 So that when you're talking about things like gay marriage and pot legalization and abortion, Ted Cruz is not a man who principally would override those through executive fiat like our current president might.
00:11:05.000 So when you're looking at his record as a constitutionalist, Even more so than an evangelical, the argument that he's some theocrat really falls apart.
00:11:14.000 The next argument that we have is that Donald Trump is not a conservative.
00:11:19.000 I have a problem with that because the proliferation of the hashtag never Trump movement that's come out of everyone from the neocons, the libertarians, you look at Ted Cruz, you look at Max Boot, Marco Rubio, the intellectuals, the establishment, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham they're all piling up on top of them.
00:11:36.000 And I find it so rich and so ironic.
00:11:39.000 That in 2016, after eight years of Obama, after six years of a Republican House and two years of a Republican Senate that could not get conservative policy in action.
00:11:51.000 Jesus.
00:11:59.000 Now, all of a sudden, all these conservatives are going to come out of the woodwork and lecture, we the people, Americans, and Donald Trump about what conservatism is all about.
00:12:08.000 And get Paul Ryan the beard to come out when Donald Trump proposes the moratorium on Muslim immigration to say, that's not what America stands for.
00:12:16.000 That's not what conservatism stands for.
00:12:18.000 Well, guess what, Paul Ryan?
00:12:19.000 After you pass Barack Obama's omnibus spending bill, you're not really an authority on what conservatism is and isn't.
00:12:26.000 I will not dispute that Donald Trump is not a conservative in the traditional American sense, but he is a conservative in the broader past 500 years, arguably 1,000 years of Western culture.
00:12:39.000 You go back to Cato the Elder, you go back to Metternich in Austria, and this is the tradition of conservatism which Trump embraces.
00:12:46.000 Not necessarily small government classical liberalism, which it has come to be defined by in the modern era.
00:12:53.000 But that we should favor stability and order over chaos and other elements.
00:12:59.000 And that's why you see him stronger on national security versus privacy.
00:13:03.000 That's why you see him as not really caring about social issues, more so against defending the nation, reaffirming the culture, that he's a cultural president.
00:13:10.000 So that's where I think that you can't really call Donald Trump with authority, not a conservative, at least not in the broader sense.
00:13:18.000 Our next argument is never Trump.
00:13:21.000 This is kind of a branch off the second one that we should never have Donald Trump. 0.97
00:13:25.000 Again, I find it hypocritical. 0.76
00:13:27.000 I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of Donald Trump.
00:13:30.000 I know that he says a lot of incendiary things, but when you compare it to what Barack Obama said, when you compare it to what even many radical Republicans have said, it's not all that incendiary.
00:13:40.000 I mean, what he's proposing is that you restrict immigration from Iraq and Syria.
00:13:45.000 What he's proposing is that you build a wall between America and Mexico, that you have a border.
00:13:49.000 These are not crazy things.
00:13:51.000 The way that he says them is incendiary, but really they shouldn't be.
00:13:54.000 And this is because for so long we've been nurtured by this media culture. 1.00
00:13:58.000 We've been talked down to by CNN and C SPAN that when we have a Republican debate, we're treated with kid gloves, like we're all a bunch of morons. 1.00
00:14:06.000 They asked Donald Trump if he's a comic book villain. 0.99
00:14:08.000 They asked Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio to resign.
00:14:11.000 I mean, when you're looking at the culture that we're being brought up in, it shouldn't be so shocking that the American people will support someone that sticks up for their culture and their values.
00:14:21.000 So I fundamentally disagree with this proposition that we should wholeheartedly go against one man and it's all against Donald Trump because he's a little bit crass.
00:14:30.000 I mean, we forget.
00:14:31.000 I've used this example several times.
00:14:34.000 Barack Obama went to Argentina last week and he said that principally we shouldn't focus on the difference between communism and capitalism, but just on what works.
00:14:42.000 That's an argument that's been used by Marxists for a hundred years.
00:14:46.000 And I think that's far more reckless to be indoctrinating our youth with Marxist multiculturalism than with simple things that are crass on Twitter, things we don't like to hear.
00:14:56.000 I think we misplace our values and our priorities in that regard.
00:15:00.000 The next argument comes out of the Bernie Sanders camp.
00:15:02.000 That we have a corrupt campaign finance system.
00:15:05.000 You hear that from Bernie Sanders.
00:15:05.000 You hear that from everybody.
00:15:07.000 You hear that from Donald Trump.
00:15:09.000 And it's sort of a self defeating premise because the fact that Bernie Sanders is doing so well and Donald Trump is doing so well speaks to the opposite of the fact.
00:15:17.000 If big financiers and donors could control the elections, why wouldn't they drive Bernie Sanders right out?
00:15:23.000 Why wouldn't they drive Donald Trump right out?
00:15:25.000 Donald Trump in the South Carolina debate said he thought Bush was responsible for 9 11.
00:15:30.000 You don't think the donors had a problem with that?
00:15:32.000 Yet he's still the front runner.
00:15:34.000 And you look at the war chest.
00:15:36.000 That Jeb Bush and Scott Walker and many others had going into the race, and even Hillary Clinton had, where Jeb Bush was spending $3,000 per vote in Iowa, where he poured millions of dollars in New Hampshire and couldn't beat Ted Cruz, who spent less than $1 million.
00:15:49.000 And there's just nothing to substantiate the claim that money is controlling elections.
00:15:54.000 If that were the case, you wouldn't have the Tea Party, you wouldn't have Bernie Sanders saying this stuff, and you wouldn't have Donald Trump.
00:16:11.000 So, those are 10 ridiculous arguments from the 2016 election.
00:16:15.000 I'm Nicholas J. Fuentes, and this was the Nicholas J. Fuentes Show.
00:16:18.000 Thank you for watching, and God bless America.