00:02:19.000The audacity of somebody that you email, hey, want to buy my stuff that you probably have no interest in buying and do an unboxing video on your channel?
00:02:28.000She's sending me links for examples of unboxing videos.
00:02:32.000I'm like, lady, what are you thinking?
00:10:30.000And me and James talked a little bit about this on Nationalist Review on Saturday, where James said that Steve Bannon was cucking because he wanted to win.
00:10:52.000They're not thrilled with the fact that the founding stock of the country from 1790 has the same or increasingly less voting power than foreign born people.
00:11:02.000But that is how we have to play in 2017 if we want to win elections and moving forward.
00:11:07.000And I think it's a little bit naive and.
00:11:10.000And I think it is not pragmatic, impractical that people, I think, just want to make this electoral winter as bad as possible.
00:11:19.000Because if you can win a sizable proportion of the minority vote without compromising too much on your platform, you extend the solvency of the Republican Party maybe an additional five or ten years.
00:11:31.000If you're pandering exclusively to the white vote, guess what?
00:15:10.000You know, there's a lot of debates between the, you know, ANCAPs, fascists, all those different crowds between libertarian and totalitarianism.
00:15:20.000And I wanted to know what exactly you thought would be a good system for us in America specifically.
00:15:27.000And I think our system of government should be the constitutional system that we were founded under.
00:15:33.000Well, I mean, again, it varies by demographics and it varies by geography.
00:15:41.000A lot of my theory and a lot of my thought about government and what type of government a nation should have was influenced by Jean Jacques Rousseau because he wrote in the social contract pretty extensively about what kind of government works for what kind of people and geography and population and in a kind of a mathematical way, which I thought was interesting.
00:16:01.000And so I think, actually, with some modifications, I think, you know, depending on where the demographics are headed, we'll either have to have a government that will preside over.
00:16:10.000An ethnically divided country, a nation of ethnic and racial minorities, of religious minorities, a secular nation.
00:16:17.000If that's the case, Ethiopia has a pretty good example of, I think, an ethnic pluralistic government.
00:16:24.000And I learned about that a little bit in my African studies class in college, where they have kind of this ethnic federal system where the different regions have a certain number of votes, and it seemed to work out pretty okay.
00:16:37.000Russia also would be a model for that.
00:16:43.000Obviously, it varies very much in terms of population density, in terms of religion, ethnicity, and race.
00:16:48.000You have the Muscovites, you have the Caucasians, and the Caucasus, Chechnyans.
00:16:54.000You have people in Siberia as far as Manchuria.
00:16:57.000If we are going to recapture a white supermajority, I think something, some kind of a take on the constitutional system by our founders.
00:17:05.000I think if we reverted more back to an aristocratic type system where we had the Senate as the chamber of the states, And reverted really more towards the federal system that we were founded under, I think that would be ideal for the American people.
00:17:19.000But modifications have to be made given the fact that it's a much larger country, a much more heavily populated, a much more powerful country.
00:17:26.000And that changes the dynamics, it changes the relationships between the government and the people and between the different organs of government.
00:17:57.000I've just been thinking a lot about the whole cyclical nature that seems to be throughout society of people being pretty powerful and then becoming degenerates eventually, and then the saying crumbles, and then people rise back up and make another powerful state.
00:18:13.000And I've been thinking a lot about how we could prevent that, or if it is even preventable.
00:18:19.000That goes along a long way with actual government itself.
00:18:32.000That's the law of entropy in sociology that these things just come apart and there's nothing really you can do about it.
00:18:40.000But our task is to create institutions, I think, that are optimal.
00:18:44.000And the idealism that plagues both the far right and the far left, I think, is problematic because you have people on the right that are saying, Well, if we just got it this way, if we just had this system in place, if we just had X, Y, and Z, you would have utopia.
00:18:59.000That's one of my big problems with George Lincoln Rockwell, he talks about how national socialism is this utopian ideal and it's based on science, and if implemented, it would be perfect.
00:19:10.000You've got to be very skeptical of people that tell you that it can get better and sustainably be good forever or for a long time because I think it's really a much more pessimistic picture.
00:20:31.000So, I just had a question regarding modern culture.
00:20:37.000Do you think the West can return to that sort of 1950s kind of modesty and traditionalism and.
00:20:45.000Having really strong family values and rejecting like modernity and degeneracy by itself?
00:20:53.000Or do you think maybe a change in media or a brief authoritarian type of government, like we saw with Hitler burning pornography and all that, can turn it that way?
00:21:25.000Can we make changes and have progress?
00:21:29.000I tend more to side with the cyclical, but that said, I just finished reading some Spengler the other day, and he wrote about a second religiosity that would come after modernism, a second religiosity and also Caesarism, which is that sort of strong government, totalitarian type government that you talked about that would reinstitute that.
00:21:48.000If we went through that phase, and I think we are heading in that direction in some form.
00:21:54.000But it's just very difficult because you think of these forces that have been unleashed in terms of hedonism, nihilism, materialism.
00:22:03.000I mean, things that are so corrosive and so chaotic and destructive.
00:22:07.000It's hard to imagine how you can corral them back in.
00:22:11.000I mean, discipline, virtue, these things you take centuries building.
00:22:16.000It takes centuries of strife and war and poverty to create these habits among the generations.
00:22:23.000You know, people who say, like, if we just passed the tax bill, if we just had Young Americans for Liberty chapters, if we just read basic economics, it's like, you have no idea.
00:22:54.000Donald Trump is, he really is like a sign of the whole traditional sort of family.
00:23:02.000And I think he probably can persuade the public towards the end of his either four or eight terms about four or eight years to kind of return to that sort of family values sort of model.
00:23:19.000But, you know, it's hard in Australia as well because I can't confidently say that the majority of.
00:23:32.000I'd like to see a change, but I don't think it's on the horizon very.
00:23:37.000Yeah, it's a little bit black pilling because they have such a control over everything in almost everybody that is, like you said, that's engaging in the sexual degeneracy, posting the nudes, the Snapchat stuff, the alcohol, the drug abuse.
00:26:45.000It's sort of related to some of the discussions you had with Faith Goldie when she was on Nationalist Review.
00:26:50.000And I guess you mentioned it, I think it was early this week, about the whole concept of having a proactive.
00:27:01.000Message that you're promoting through the alt right, and how you said that the new right lacks that sort of motivation.
00:27:09.000They're not really striving for anything, they're just negating things that they disagree with.
00:27:14.000And I was wondering what you thought of positive messages going forward and how we can better promote good virtues rather than just this kind of, for lack of a better word, bad optics.
00:27:30.000And it's something I see conservatives.
00:27:33.000Go wrong with so often is it exists almost entirely as a negation of the left and of liberalism, of globalism.
00:27:42.000For example, you look at a guy like Ben Shapiro.
00:27:45.000I don't think anybody is getting a positive message.
00:27:48.000And when I say positive, I don't mean like cheerful or I mean positive in the sense that it's telling people to go and do something, it's telling people to act instead of not to act.
00:27:59.000There is no positive vision that these people put forth because they have no virtues.
00:28:05.000At the end of the day, they have no values.
00:28:07.000I mean, what they preach essentially is this libertarian absence of government restrictions on people.
00:28:13.000What they should be preaching is responsibility.
00:28:15.000You know, stop telling people what they have a right to do.
00:28:18.000Stop telling people what the government shouldn't be doing.
00:28:21.000Start telling people what the government should be doing.
00:28:52.000I mean, these are the things I think that would do us a big favor.
00:28:55.000So, that positive vision is tradition, the positive vision is nationalism.
00:29:00.000People and man in particular want to give themselves to something greater than themselves.
00:29:05.000That's how people derive meaning from their lives.
00:29:07.000We found that individualism is not an answer to the existential question of, Why we're here.
00:29:13.000You know, the individual can only answer that in sensory ways.
00:29:17.000Eat good food, listen to good music, watch good movies, have good sex, whatever.
00:29:22.000But when you have the community, not collective, but the community, you have the church, you have your family, your children, you have the nation, you have your people.
00:30:04.000I've taken a few political science courses at my university, and one of the things that a professor I had twice always was preaching was that ideology.
00:30:14.000Ideology could be corrosive and manipulate too many reviews.
00:30:18.000But what I found through just the past couple of years with the whole Trump movement is that it's the opposite.
00:30:26.000Ideology can guide you forward as long as it's a positive one.
00:30:30.000And this whole skeptic community is just so hollow and meaningless.
00:30:35.000And that's what I've, like what you've been saying with Shapiro for the longest time now, is how there's nothing there, there's no substance.
00:30:45.000It's just him critiquing everything and making the world small.
00:30:50.000Yeah, that's basically my point there.
00:33:36.000My biggest criticism of Charlottesville 3.0 and Gainesville and even the rally in Tennessee was, you know, and it started out, the optics question started out very innocently, very much in earnest.
00:33:51.000It wasn't like I came out after everybody and I went on the attack.
00:35:22.000The alt right has its place in terms of this is an intellectual zone where people are hashing out ideas and ideology, and it has its place.
00:35:31.000I've said this before, I'll say it again.
00:35:33.000It has its place, and it will always be there for people that have this dialogue that is ongoing on the right wing, defining what it means to be right wing, what is the future going to look like, what is the nature of race.
00:35:44.000But for people that want reform, it must necessarily give birth then to a movement that must be pragmatic and must achieve political ends.
00:35:53.000And the alt right will persist in its intellectual capacity, but it has to allow.
00:35:57.000It has to allow for something to exist alongside to attempt to achieve political reform.
00:36:03.000And it seems like there's a little bit of a hostility on that side to wanting to create.
00:36:08.000And it's sort of incumbent on us to kind of just ignore that and say, you know, this is an intellectual zone.
00:36:17.000There will never be sufficient to get everybody in one camp or to answer all the questions because we have to lay down, we have to put the rubber on the road.
00:36:25.000And build something, and that's pragmatism.
00:36:37.000And Spencer did do a good job with altright.com.
00:36:40.000They released, I think it was before Charlottesville 2.0, a pretty good list of what they stand for.
00:36:45.000If we did more things like that, we'd be in a good place.
00:36:49.000Yeah, especially when there's such a movement as there is right now, as the rise of the right after getting nothing done for the last three decades.
00:36:59.000You have to go to a movement that actually can realistically get something done.
00:37:05.000The last three decades of this very fake, like passionate conservative movement, in the last 30 years, nothing, no real conservative change that has positively impacted America has taken effect.
00:37:20.000We have to follow something that's actually going to make change, it's actually going to do something.
00:37:24.000You're not going to get that through more Ben Shapiro, passionate conservative type, or like.
00:37:30.000LARPy, ethnostate, far alt right stuff.
00:38:14.000My question actually goes along more of the spiritual lines.
00:38:17.000I guess we've had a couple questions like that.
00:38:19.000And I was wondering to what extent do you think we have an effect on what's going on politically, socially, when in Scripture we see, like in Revelation and in other aspects of our eschatology, there are certain things that absolutely will happen.
00:38:38.000Well, yeah, I mean, the very nature of the Bible and of the Christian religion in particular is this sense of letting go.
00:38:49.000And, you know, this is something I've actually been, it's funny you asked this, this is something I've been thinking about a lot lately when I think about trying to change the world and implement these grand designs and have these grand reforms.
00:39:05.000And you think in terms of the omnipotence of God, you know, if you are a Christian, and you think just how very little then that man is able to control the individual man or the society at large, how very little is within our power or within our jurisdiction.
00:39:22.000And to a certain extent, I mean, that is what it means to be a Christian to surrender to the plan, to surrender to the will, the divine will, and ultimately understand that we are just.
00:39:34.000Transient on this earth, both our conscious and our material presence is just a transient part of this planet, and we just have to let ourselves be led along for the ride.
00:39:47.000And that doesn't mean we have no free will, and that doesn't mean we have no responsibility.
00:39:53.000But I think it's kind of tough to articulate this kind of duality where at once we have responsibility and at once we have some kind of an obligation to act and to evangelize, but at the same time, we have to resign ourselves to the fact that.
00:40:08.000Ultimately, it's on God to actualize, I suppose, those changes.
00:40:13.000Because you're right, there is that apocalyptic nature of the Bible that these things are going to happen no matter what.
00:40:19.000And I think that's a big part of life the resignation, the letting go.
00:43:29.000No, I think it just goes to show, again, it just goes to show where the culpability is.
00:43:34.000I mean, do you blame an ISIS fighter who, you know, say you're some Arab kid in Iraq and a missile just comes through your living room and suddenly your parents are just like on the, they're splattered all over the walls and the floors.
00:43:50.000You grow up to be some kind of an ISIS terrorist because they can pay you a salary.
00:43:54.000Unlike your broken country, because the United States broke it.
00:44:13.000You know, they can't fire, they can't do knife attacks and truck attacks from the Middle East.
00:44:19.000But it's these bastards who bring them over here, who literally, in the case of Europe, They rescue them from the shore of Libya and bring them all the way across the sea to Italy or to Spain.
00:44:52.000You don't border a third world country like we do.
00:44:55.000You know, people don't realize this, but.
00:44:57.000It's actually, and I looked into this while I was researching for the debate with Destiny, the rematch.
00:45:02.000It is the largest disparity of wealth between any two bordering countries, between the United States and Mexico.
00:45:09.000It's also the longest border that a first world country has with a third world country.
00:45:13.000So there's really nothing else like it.
00:45:15.000I mean, it's kind of comparable in Europe, where you have the Middle East, but by the same token, you have Turkey and the Balkans that separate them.
00:46:07.000Our country, Canada, well, my country, anyways, Canada, has the fourth highest population of a certain rootless transnational globalist corporate elite.
00:48:00.000I guess to start with, you just have to make it so that they can't survive, essentially, because you notice all the people that are out there protesting most of the time, many of them don't have jobs.
00:48:12.000The ones protesting for $15, whatever, maybe they do part time, they work minimum wage, whatever.
00:48:18.000Repealed a lot of the welfare measures and everything else, they'd have a lot less time to protest.
00:48:24.000They'd have to probably start thinking seriously about education or about getting other jobs.
00:48:29.000I mean, really, I don't know if you can blame the young people who want it.
00:48:34.000I don't know if you can totally blame students who want it in the sense that you look at inflation.
00:48:52.000A gallon of gas today, anywhere between $2.54, sometimes.
00:48:57.000So, you know, I don't know if we can totally blame like the white millennials, but some of these people who expect that they're going to live off of a salary like that in retail or in food service and somehow raise a family.
00:49:09.000It's just the height of moral hazard, is what it is when they're led to believe by the government with the welfare state and with all this cucking on raising the minimum wage that that's eventually going to be a good.
00:50:35.000I sort of wanted to touch on the economic issue because it seems like a lot of people in the movement are extremely skeptical of the consensus among economists that capitalism is clearly a superior system to protectionism and closed markets.
00:51:03.000I was wondering how you square that with your ideology.
00:51:08.000I don't believe that the record is actually crystal clear.
00:51:12.000I think a lot of the free trade theory, and I think a lot of, and particularly among young conservatives who push free trade, I think with young conservatives, they're looking a lot more into political economy than they're looking into economy.
00:51:28.000And a really good book I'd recommend for anybody who's interested in this subject, because I was an ardent free trader for a long time.
00:51:35.000I mean, believe me, I was on the Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Bastiat bandwagon.
00:51:40.000In my sophomore year of high school, I argued with my history teacher for 20 minutes that World War II was caused by trade barriers because Bastiat said that when goods don't cross borders, armies do.
00:51:51.000So I was there, been there, done that.
00:51:54.000But I read this book, Free Trade Doesn't Work.
00:52:02.000Libertarians definitely take it a bit too far, but.
00:52:09.000But on the other side, what to reduce the international institutions that allow for free trade today?
00:52:15.000I mean, how far do you want to take your version of.
00:52:22.000Well, I mean, here, just think of it this way.
00:52:27.000In terms of China, like this is what really opened my eyes on this.
00:52:30.000You look at the trade deficits that the United States has with foreign countries.
00:52:34.000China, the trade deficit is something like $350 billion a year.
00:52:39.000Just don't know about this when they look up Milton Friedman videos.
00:52:43.000I would have the easiest time debating a lot of these people on free trade because they just didn't understand things like the balance of payments.
00:52:52.000They didn't understand the current account and everything else.
00:52:55.000When you have a $300 billion trade deficit with China, in order to reconcile that, for people that are not initiated into trade theory, what that means essentially is that China sends us $300 billion more goods than we send them.
00:53:10.000Well, without rectifying that deficit, we're getting $300 billion worth of goods for nothing.
00:53:15.000If there's a deficit, if they give us more goods in a dollar value than we give them, and there is no action to rectify that, if it is just some arbitrary accounting number that Milton Friedman said it is, well, then you're getting something for nothing.
00:53:32.000The way that you reconcile a trade deficit is that China either acquires $300 billion in debt, in assets, or in currency.
00:53:42.000And in a perfect and ideal world, I would say, you know, is that so much of a problem?
00:53:46.000But you consider that China's buying up our stocks, they're buying up our property and our businesses, they're buying up our debt, and they're buying up our currency.
00:53:54.000And then, with the currency in particular, they hoard it and they hold it.
00:53:59.000The state holds it and releases it at strategic times to manipulate the exchange rate.
00:54:04.000And in doing so, when they manipulate the exchange rate, they make it so that the trade deficit continues ad infinitum.
00:54:11.000I mean, these are the things where you have to say the excesses of free trade must be curtailed.
00:54:16.000We can have free trade, but like Trump says, we have to have fair trade as well.
00:54:22.000I mean, you would recognize as well that many of those goods coming from China are input goods, in that they're used for.
00:54:29.000For products that are made in the United States as well, and especially industrial products, not just consumer goods.
00:54:40.000Yeah, no, I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that they are buying up debt, assets, and currency and manipulating the exchange rates.
00:54:47.000I mean, you could also look at the Stolper Samuelson theorem as a good argument to be used against free trade because the Stolper Samuelson theorem says that, you know, actually, this comparative advantage idea, not quite the case.
00:55:02.000Land, you have capital, and you have, I believe it's labor.
00:55:09.000And I forget actually the particulars of that.
00:55:11.000It's been a long time since I was in international relations.
00:55:13.000But again, I just look at the China case in particular and I say to the Ben Shapiros who tell me that it's like buying groceries at the grocery store, well, you know, if China is buying up our assets and they're also set to become a regional and possibly a global hegemon and they own like important strategic assets in our country and they hold our currency and they threaten.
00:55:38.000Our monopoly on the world's reserve currency, it just tends to be problematic.
00:55:43.000So, in theory, I'm for trade with other nations, but we just have to maintain a manufacturing base and we have to keep those deficits down.
00:55:52.000Yeah, well, I appreciate the intelligent discussion.
00:55:59.000I was wondering there's a lot of talk in the alt right, obviously, about, I think, to a harmful degree.
00:56:09.000Just the ethnostate as being the primary concern.
00:56:14.000And while I see the point to a certain extent, there does seem to be, and Charles Murray has touched on this in his book, Coming Apart, there does seem to be a cultural collapse within white society as well.
00:56:26.000And I was wondering how the alt right wants to address this issue.
00:56:32.000And that's another place where I diverge with the alt right.
00:56:36.000I triggered everybody in the live chat last night by saying I didn't want an ethnostate and saying that that wasn't.
00:56:41.000The most important thing because, and I was just talking to my father about this a couple of hours ago that many people in the alt right take this racialism, this ethnostate ideal, and they make it the North Star and everything else is irrelevant.
00:57:50.000I mean, I think as well, a lot of the so called rootless elites, many of these people are sort of escaping these broken communities as well.
00:57:59.000They don't stay around their hometowns because they don't feel that there's anything of value there.
00:58:04.000And I think they have a point to a certain extent.
00:58:07.000And you can argue that they're not doing the right thing by moving to the big city or simply moving away from their hometowns, but it's a powerful argument, I think.
00:59:45.000But anyway, what I was wondering was I feel like this has been coming up a lot more recently.
00:59:50.000So I was wondering if you could give me the full rundown on Iran and that whole situation.
00:59:56.000Because I know you talked a little bit with James on Nationalist Review about it, and I'm pretty sure you've also mentioned it in America First.
01:00:03.000So, like, what's your whole take on that?
01:00:07.000So, I mean, right now what you have is, whew, I mean, where do we even begin?
01:00:12.000I mean, that's why I love the Middle East.
01:00:14.000I mean, talking about it, looking at it, I've been fascinated with the subject for so long because there's just so many moving parts and things going on.
01:00:22.000This really started, this latest riff started in July of this year, if you remember it.
01:00:41.000And there was a bit of a divide, not only in the Arab world regarding this boycott, or rather this embargo, which was very damaging to Qatar, but also between the Western powers.
01:00:52.000Because the United States was very supportive of Saudi Arabia, the European Union, not so much.
01:01:02.000With the resignation of the Prime Minister of Lebanon, Hariri.
01:01:06.000He stepped down, I think it was two weeks ago now, and it's widespread.
01:01:11.000The opinion is widely held in Lebanon that the reason their Prime Minister stepped down was because the Saudis forced him to.
01:01:18.000That during this anti corruption purge that was taking place in Saudi Arabia, the Prime Minister of Lebanon and his financial holdings got caught up in that, and he was leveraged to step down from Lebanon, blaming Hezbollah in Iran, and fleeing to Saudi Arabia.
01:01:33.000And that was seen as Kind of a Machiavellian move by the Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman, who is now aiming to take control of the country, to take the throne, to embarrass Iran, to start trouble with Iran, to strike back against Iran.
01:01:48.000He just went back to Lebanon this week.
01:01:51.000You had the missile strike from the Iranian backed Houthi rebels in Yemen on the airport in Riyadh, and that was during the same weekend, which Saudi Arabia said was an act of war.
01:02:03.000And now, right now, you have basically this state of Cold War, I guess.
01:02:09.000It's brinksmanship, essentially, where you have these alignments being made, where people are choosing teams, and I guess we're just waiting for that matchstick moment, essentially, when.
01:02:23.000But it's very unstable right now because Saudi Arabia, you have the succession crisis where it's looking like Mohammed bin Salman is fixing to take control over the country.
01:02:33.000And in doing so, he's launching all these initiatives, both economic and geopolitical, to launch himself into the spotlight and to be seen as some kind of a great leader for the country.
01:02:43.000And then at the same time, you have just this evolving situation with Iraq and Syria as ISIS is buttoned up, as the Syrian civil war comes to a close, and just many things going on.
01:05:10.000I think, like, about most Swedes oppose mass immigration.
01:05:16.000The thing is, when elections come up, most Swedes pick their political parties based on economic policy, okay?
01:05:30.000So, most Swedes don't vote based on immigration policy, which I think is a tragedy.
01:05:40.000That's a tragedy, but that's just the way people work.
01:05:46.000I think about the way the polls currently are, the way things currently are, I think about 20% will probably vote for an anti immigration party next year when we're going to have the parliamentary elections.
01:06:04.000But here's the thing there's a lot of memes about Sweden.
01:06:09.000Among the alt right, and basically, fuck you guys.
01:06:14.000All right, well, yeah, no, I can't say I blame you.
01:06:20.000My country was made fun of as much as Sweden, and even the United Kingdom, I guess I have a little animosity as well.
01:06:30.000But you got to understand where it comes from, right?
01:06:32.000I mean, you see some of the things that come out of your country, and it's like, you know, I'm sure you understand where it comes from.
01:06:43.000We could take, we could like, we could give coverage like to, like, only the parts of the American political spectrum that's really, really fucked up.
01:06:58.000Like, we could like take Black Lives Matter demonstrations, the feminists with the pink hair, and we could say like, that's America.
01:07:11.000And you could like hypothetically, you could take.
01:07:15.000Like the most cucked parts of the Republican Party, the worst parts of the Democrat Party, and say that's American politics, that's the American people.
01:07:27.000And I think they're like most Americans, and especially alt right Americans, have no idea about the parts of Sweden that's not really that enthusiastic about mass immigration.
01:10:06.000His name is Bishop Williamson, I believe, is his name.
01:10:12.000But he was, I believe he was in the Society of Pius X, which was this group of bishops and priests who are in revolt essentially against the post Vatican II order.
01:10:22.000He's got a lot of good content on YouTube.
01:10:25.000I think, let me see if that's correct, if it's Bishop Williamson.
01:10:30.000I don't endorse all of his views because he's a little controversial.
01:13:05.000The the answer, really, I think, above all else is patience and it's also in the approach.
01:13:11.000I don't think there's really a one size fits all for how to get people from where they are to where they need to be, but the key is it's patience, it's persistence, and it's also, I guess, that would be the thing I would add is persistence and it's the approach.
01:13:34.000So you just have to be consistent and patient.
01:13:36.000And you also have to meet them where they are in terms of you have to force them to understand their convictions and the implications of that.
01:13:45.000You have to get people to start noticing these trends and these patterns.
01:13:51.000And I guess you have to have the data prepared, you have to have the argument ready.
01:13:56.000It's not, I guess it's not for everybody.
01:13:59.000It's one of those things where people.
01:14:01.000You just got to get people asking the right questions more than giving them the right answers.
01:14:04.000I know that sounds like a trite, kind of cliched thing, but 10 times out of 10, you would do better to ask these questions of people or get people to see, maybe not in an overt way, what they're actually saying without being over the top.
01:14:20.000Because I try and pummel people in the submission with like this no smokestacks, shadows weren't there, and the aerial photographs, you know, and other things.
01:14:31.000They don't like to buy somebody who's hard on about it.
01:14:33.000But if you say, you know, Gee, why is it?
01:14:37.000Why is it that I don't want to ask certain explicit questions, but you could ask, you know, like, why is it that black crime, black on white crime, is so much higher in just plain numbers than white on black crime, even though there's a smaller percentage?
01:16:48.000He's red pilled more people with his ridiculous comedy routine with the 2070 paradigm shift than anybody on Daily Storm or anything like that.
01:17:38.000And while I think that obviously he has some very bad optics, the KKK is just retarded.
01:17:47.000Anyone that associates with the KKK is really stupid.
01:17:52.000Also, obviously, if you've ever listened to the David Duke show, he can be quite obsessive about Jews in Israel.
01:18:00.000And I think that Charlottesville, one of the things that really made me angry about Charlottesville was he basically went right in front of CNN and he said, you know, we're carrying out Trump's agenda.
01:18:27.000However, David Duke has been fighting for our people, for white Americans and Europeans, for over 40 years.
01:18:37.000He was one of the first people to talk about affirmative action and illegal immigration and black crime.
01:18:43.000So I think that while you can criticize David Duke, and definitely there are things to criticize about him, to call him a Fed, I think, is blasphemy, to be honest.
01:18:55.000I think it's very problematic to use a liberal term.
01:19:00.000Well, first of all, I didn't call David Duke a Fed.
01:19:03.000If you watch the show, I never said he was a Fed.
01:19:08.000And I said the reason I consider that a possibility is because he found himself in a very conspicuous situation in the 1970s when he was, I said it was Cambodia, he was teaching English in Laos.
01:19:53.000I think that was pretty generous when you see that the lengths that people go to disavow people like that.
01:20:00.000And you have to understand that regardless of his intentions, Or what he's done in the past, if he's hurting us in the present and he's hurting us by being associated with us, unfortunately, we just can't have it.
01:20:12.000I know, you know, and I said in an ideal world, he could be given a fair hearing and he could explain himself and have a seat at the table.
01:20:22.000And maybe we could take it, for example, at face value when he says, I regret being in the KKK and I made a mistake 40 years ago.
01:20:30.000You know, maybe we can have that conversation.
01:20:32.000But I mean, that's just not the world we live in.
01:21:18.000You know, 20 years before Trump, you know, even was interested in politics.
01:21:22.000So I think that we should acknowledge that, yes, David Duke does have something to offer.
01:21:28.000Books like Culture of Critique and other books are important, but maybe we shouldn't, you know, publicly or explicitly talk about them.
01:21:39.000Well, again, you know, people pay to ask me the questions, I answer the questions, and people are going to ask about these things regardless.
01:21:47.000People are going to ask about David Duke or Richard Spencer in the future, and I anticipate that.
01:21:51.000And the position that I've taken is, again, you know, this is a guy who's been outspoken and he's been, to an extent, courageous in his beliefs.
01:22:02.000Mainstream media will take that and say, you know, you're commending a Ku Klux Klan member.
01:22:15.000But again, you have to ask yourself if you're going in a local election or a state election or a national election, Does it help or hurt you to be associated with David Duke?
01:22:25.000Whether or not he has something to offer, whether or not he was there first on the wall or whatever, again, if he's hurting you and your chances of winning an election and passing a reform and helping the country, I'm going to choose the country every time, unfortunately.
01:22:42.000So, I mean, that's just where I stand.
01:22:45.000And people understand this that there has to be this separation where people like David Duke, okay, fine, read his book.
01:22:54.000I'm not against people reading books, but the expectation that there should be like that we have to affiliate with these people and the mistakes that they've made, I'm sorry.
01:23:08.000I have no obligation to bring on that baggage onto my political movement and bring on those bad optics and take responsibility for those mistakes because I didn't make them.
01:23:50.000And I think that with the Daily Stormer, the Daily Stormer is a lot worse than David Duke, it's a lot worse than some of these more hard right groups.
01:24:00.000Because I think that with Richard Spencer, I think him associating with the Daily Stormer is a lot worse than maybe tacitly kind of saying, you know, maybe David Duke is right on a lot of things, but obviously I disagree with him on optics.
01:24:17.000And that's just generally my beef with that whole crowd it's just these things that I don't understand why they do them.
01:24:25.000And I don't understand why they do them because I don't know what they're after.
01:24:28.000If they had clearly identifiable objectives.
01:24:32.000And they said, you know, we're publishing this paper for this purpose, and we endorse, we did the Roman salutes at the NPI conference for this purpose.
01:24:40.000If there was cause and effect, and they were cognizant of what they were doing, and it wasn't just this reckless offensiveness for effect, I would entertain that idea.
01:24:52.000But again, I see people that are tactically losing in terms of we're getting kicked, our asses are getting kicked all over the internet, our websites are getting shut down, we're getting shut down on Twitter, and that is a huge tactical loss.
01:25:06.000It would make sense if there was some kind of strategic justification for it.
01:25:10.000Like, we're going to get kicked off the internet, and then this will happen, and that will happen, and then we get our goals.
01:25:14.000But just this, you know, we're expected to all be outrageous and not cuck and not punch right and purity spiral into oblivion, and we don't know where we're going.
01:25:25.000That's just not something I can sign on to.
01:25:58.000But until anybody can show me how they're going to overthrow the Department of Defense and the Federal Reserve and all that, we're going to have to win elections.
01:26:10.000And I think one thing about Andrew Anglin in particular is a lot of people gave him credit for talking about, you know, we need to have American flags.
01:26:20.000We need to, you know, have better optics.
01:26:44.000And I think that the problem is a lot of people seem to think that Anglin is some sort of genius, when in reality, you know, he's probably hurt the movement a lot more than anyone else.
01:26:56.000I think that with David Duke, I mean, you know, I like David Duke.
01:27:01.000And, but he's definitely done some bad things.
01:27:04.000You know, the Charlottesville talking to CNN, you know, before Heather Heyer got killed or had a heart attack.
01:27:12.000You know, the only other clip that CNN was playing of Charlottesville was of David Duke saying, you know, we're carrying out Trump's agenda.
01:27:44.000And You know, we try not to alienate people, but at the same time, people get alienated, you know, just because you wake up in the morning.
01:27:52.000So, it's a fine line to walk, and people are not always going to be happy with what I say about it or the way I say about it when it's people that they like or papers that they like or things they respect.
01:28:02.000And, you know, I just wish people could meet me halfway on that.
01:28:08.000And if they can't, I'm sorry they have no business in politics, you know.
01:29:50.000Blah, Because their immediate association with these is totally reasonable.
01:29:56.000Totally common sense opinions and evaluations based on statistics.
01:30:00.000They associate that with a very specific caricature that the media has worked very, very hard to maintain.
01:30:09.000And it does us no good when you take a very simple position like stop all legal immigration for the following reasons and conflate it with, like you said, the Daily Stormer saying N and K and all these other things.
01:30:24.000And again, it's about winning elections.
01:30:38.000And again, it goes back to what I said yesterday.
01:30:42.000The people that purport to care about whites the most seem to care about them the least in terms of don't want to help them, don't want to do anything for them.
01:30:49.000They want to drive around and be edgy and all that.
01:31:47.000But when I was liberal and I found Jared Taylor, I thought, you know, geez, this guy is like, you know, I used to think Sam Harris was the smartest guy in the world.
01:31:54.000You know, Jared Taylor, you know, is now the new smartest guy in the world.
01:31:58.000You know, this Jared Taylor guy is extremely intelligent, extremely articulate, and, you know, he really, you know, gets into the statistics and not just the sort of, you know, we're going to say, you know, screw black people.
01:33:06.000Everybody's upset about the Turner Diaries.
01:33:09.000Look, for people that don't know, the Turner Diaries is a book by a physicist who believes that there will be some apocalyptic race war in the next 100 years where the whites will consolidate.
01:33:24.000In a white ethno state in Southern California, and they will wage a scorched earth campaign across the country, take control of the country's nuclear arsenal, have a nuclear exchange with the US government, then have a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union, because it was written, of course, during the Cold War, and then they would bring about an ethno planet, and the peace would ensue.
01:33:47.000It's the most LARP y, ridiculous nonsense.
01:34:03.000But he's obviously, he didn't write a very good book because, you know, to any reasonable person, you're going to pitch this kind of thing.
01:34:57.000Yeah, so first, before I got to my question, I just want to say.
01:35:01.000I really agree with you on the point that, like, an all white society really doesn't solve a lot of the problems we're talking about because, you know, there's no affirmative action over here.
01:35:10.000So, my university is basically all white people, but I still notice that there are all of the problems that you're talking about.
01:35:19.000That we still have the kind of, you know, the cultural decay, the kind of, you know, the systemic problems that, you know, that they're still just as present here.
01:35:56.000Yeah, my final stance on Islam is, I mean, just generally speaking, I see Islam, and I've actually come to see Islam as I've read a little bit more about the subject, a little bit more esoteric literature about it, as a Christian heresy.
01:36:12.000I think that's an interesting way to look at it.
01:36:15.000But more broadly, I mean, this is a religion.
01:36:18.000This is a way of life that prevails, obviously, in the Middle East, North Africa, South Pacific, and it belongs there.
01:36:25.000And it belongs there, and it's incompatible with the West.
01:36:28.000And you look at what the terrorists are doing, and you don't even have to look at the terrorists.
01:36:32.000You look at the gangs, you look at the rape gangs, you look at the husbands, the fathers, and the Islamic communities, and their actions, which are incompatible with our civilization, are motivated and inspired, and you can find the background for them in the Quran, in the holy books.
01:36:49.000I believe that it's their way of life.
01:37:07.000I never got any less anti Islam as I became anti Israel.
01:37:12.000I just said, let's just get all of that Middle Eastern Semitic drama out of our countries and return to the Christian European civilization that worked and was good.
01:37:23.000Yeah, I think that's pretty fair, and that's kind of what I've been coming to now as well.
01:37:27.000Sort of moving away from the sort of, you know, it's like they're all trying to, like, you know, every Muslim is like some crazy person trying to kill as many Kufir as they can.
01:37:38.000I mean, that's true for some, but I don't think that's necessarily true for all of them.
01:37:44.000And I think, you know, this sort of Ben Shapiro, like this kind of genocidal sentiment against Muslims, Palestinians, you know, I.
01:37:53.000It seems just a little bit too far sometimes.
01:37:55.000I mean, again, I don't want them here, but over there, I'm pretty cool with doing whatever they want.
01:38:03.000And that was a big reason for why I've gone so hard against Israel, is because you have just this abject double standard where Zionists, Christians, Republicans are allowed to be just straight up anti Islam, straight up anti Muslim.
01:38:31.000But then the problem is you bring up any other of the Abrahamic religions, which might be problematic, or political ideologies which result from it, and they call for your head.
01:38:41.000I mean, we're not allowed to criticize Israel's foreign policy, let alone you being, you talk about Judaism, let alone you talk about rabbinical Judaism, or any of those patterns that we see in finance or anything else.
01:38:53.000So I have just always been, and I agree with you 100%, against that double standard where.
01:38:59.000You have this just hatred for Muslims.
01:39:25.000And, you know, just before I got off, I want to say that, you know, there are, I mean, they don't have, you know, Rembrandts or Vermeers or anything like that, but there's a lot of, you know, some interesting artwork, literature, culture that can come out of Muslim countries, you know, compared to the sort of, you know, the rootless ones that don't really have any kind of visual culture or anything like that.
01:39:48.000You know, I think there are some aspects of their civilization, well, at a distance that we can admire that, so to speak.
01:40:00.000And, you know, we like our culture because it's our own and because seemingly we're not allowed to celebrate it.
01:40:05.000But that doesn't take away anything else from the other cultures.
01:40:08.000You know, I still, and people would get, when I was on RSBN and it was all like boomers and more traditional Republican types, they would always get on my case when I would say, you know, we can appreciate the Saudi culture so long as it remains in Saudi Arabia because they have a very rich tradition and history and we don't like it as much as ours, but there's something to appreciate there in the history and what goes on.
01:40:32.000And I'd have people in the live chat saying, there's nothing to appreciate.
01:40:37.000I mean, the same kind of rhetoric that if you replaced Islam with Jewish or Saudi Arabia with Israel, they'd be comparing you to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, you know?
01:41:53.000If we're looking at it from a utilitarian perspective, I guess you have to kind of grandfather them in, in the sense that I don't think we have the numbers to be picky exactly.
01:42:03.000So I guess the working answer is yes, as a big tent kind of a guy.
01:43:53.000Dude, I just wanted to say I'm a big fan.
01:43:57.000When I first heard about you, I figured you were like, you know, in your 20s or 30s.
01:44:05.000But I looked and found out you were 19, then looked at myself, because I'm 19, and thought, like, damn, I'm just sitting here playing craft.
01:44:56.000Oh, yeah, it's definitely, I guess, a symptom of modern society.
01:45:00.000And I liked how you were talking earlier about.
01:45:03.000How having a white ethnostate isn't exactly the answer to everything.
01:45:09.000I mean, this, I guess, widespread, or not widespread, I guess like all these young people feeling unfulfilled and useless or whatever is just a symptom of modernism.
01:45:26.000And I'm glad that's something you keep in mind.
01:46:10.000That are drowning in student loan debt, that aren't going to get good jobs.
01:46:13.000You still have these broken families, the high divorce rates, the sexual hedonism, the drug abuse.
01:46:19.000I mean, all these issues, they're still there.
01:46:21.000And that's not to say, of course, that demographics are not important.
01:46:24.000I'd be the first one to tell any regular Republican that we need to end all immigration now and implement emergency measures to up the native birth rate and decrease the foreign born birth rate.
01:46:36.000But the idea that that is the catch all, you know, what is that word?
01:46:42.000You know, that it's going to fix everything.
01:47:14.000I mean, if we're going to be anti progressive, a critique of modernism has to be sort of at least an important point we address because progressives or liberals, whatever, are kind of progressivism at all costs.
01:47:31.000They'll tell you that, I don't know, fucking dogs is progressive and we should all support it because there's some weirdos who like doing that.
01:47:45.000And I guess I'm kind of going off on a tangent, but if we're going to critique progressivism, we got to also keep in mind, or I guess change the direction of modernism, because this unbridled advancement of technology, all of this is going to be, I mean,
01:48:12.000it's what's contributing to these feelings of alienation.
01:51:54.000It comes down almost to the point where it's like heresy, where it's almost heretical, the things that they're preaching, the things that they're practicing.
01:52:02.000And in a sense, you almost can't blame Protestantism because this is the natural consequence of Protestantism.
01:52:09.000When you have This concept of Bible alone faith, where there is no priest, there is no arbiter of the faith, and Spangler wrote a lot about this, about Protestantism.
01:52:21.000It really damages, I think, the real interpretation of it, a correct interpretation of it.
01:52:31.000And when people are alone and they don't have the expertise and they don't have the scholastics and all that, it falls apart.
01:52:36.000So, I mean, this is the inevitable consequence of the Bible alone theology of the Protestants.
01:52:42.000And I understand Martin Luther and the original Protestants were.
01:52:45.000We were probably more theologically accurate than the Catholics at the time in some sense.
01:52:51.000But again, it's about systematic versus incidental.
01:52:54.000It is incidental that Catholics at times can become corrupt and maybe the theology isn't 100%, but it is systematic about Protestantism that you'll have that degeneration.
01:55:15.000I don't believe anybody is really a collectivist.
01:55:19.000I think that's more of an ideological phrase.
01:55:21.000What we are is communitarians in the sense that we believe that the foundation of society, the fundamental unit, the building block of society, is not the individual but the family.
01:55:33.000And in a broader sense, These small institutions and voluntary organizations, the church, the tribe, the community at large, these are the building blocks of a society.
01:55:46.000And I think that is just something that is axiomatic and I think it's pretty self evident.
01:55:52.000If you were to ask a person, you know, what is society founded on, I think if you made the argument that it was family, it would be hard to refute when you think of where people come from and where people are raised and where people go to school and everything else that it is.
01:56:07.000So I think that's the first argument it's not collectivism, it's communitarianism.
01:56:13.000And then I would say, you know, absent family, children, wife, or spouse, or community, I would ask anybody how you derive meaning in your life.
01:57:38.000So I'll try and convince him with that.
01:57:40.000And I've also been, I was into Jordan Peterson.
01:57:45.000I used to be into him, but I think, like you said earlier, I've started to go off.
01:57:49.000On him a little bit because I think he is all about the individual and everything.
01:57:54.000And I'd just like to say that having lived in Japan for seven years, I have first hand experience of living in a homogenous country and where I saw the huge benefits of that and how everyone had a similar culture.
02:01:40.000Again, nobody's like thrilled about the fact that we have to win elections.
02:01:45.000And yeah, there's allegations that they were rigged.
02:01:48.000I don't think that bears out because, of course, Donald Trump won and Eric Cantor lost.
02:01:53.000And I mean, you have these instances where obviously.
02:01:57.000Things happen that the elite wouldn't want.
02:02:00.000But I just wonder for all these people that have these grand designs and these grand visions and these grand revolutionary ideas for how we're going to overturn our country, I just wonder what they think is going to happen.
02:02:13.000I don't understand how you're going to persuade millions of people in this country that the United States that they love, that they pledge allegiance to the flag, they sing the national anthem, and they're very patriotic in many cases.
02:02:27.000I mean, look at that's who we would be convincing in terms of Republicans.
02:02:30.00088% of Trump voters were white, and they voted for this uber patriotic American nationalist message.
02:02:38.000I just don't see how you convince these people to abandon the nation.
02:02:41.000And then again, what would be the alternative?
02:02:43.000It's the same people that talk about tradition and history and heritage and blood and soil that are telling us we have to give up on our country that's existed for 300 years, probably longer if you count colonial times.
02:02:55.000So it's again, politics is the art of the possible.
02:04:24.000People talk about how we memed Trump into office.
02:04:29.000And I think, you know, that's a real slap in the face to the people that went out and campaigned, that knocked on doors, that, you know, made phone calls, as I did, people that coordinated this, that made strategy, that wrote policy, that went on the news, that, I mean, and did the groundwork.
02:04:44.000And people on the internet said, no, we did that because we said stuff online.
02:04:48.000Like, you have to think about all the things that go into.
02:04:51.000A party or a non for profit or whatever.
02:04:53.000I mean, you can criticize Charlie Kirk all day long, and I do, but it's a tremendous organization.
02:04:59.000I mean, who are the people that are going to do the paperwork, that are going to do and file the taxes and incorporate their organization and pick out a treasurer and make sure they're in compliance with the laws and keep their own books and learn accounting and do these emails and make spreadsheets and everything?
02:05:16.000Anybody can post a fucking picture on a message board, you know?
02:05:19.000So that's why I get a little frustrated when people.
02:05:22.000Criticize and they come at me with these visions.
02:08:52.000And here was the takeaway fundamentally in reading some of the NRX stuff, in reading the reactionaries, some of the fascists, even.
02:09:00.000And I said, the problem fundamentally is liberty itself.
02:09:04.000Is, you know, do we want people to be the most free or do we want people to be the most virtuous?
02:09:11.000You know, that was really kind of the question that I came crashing into when I read Plato in college and when I started to read Evola and some of these other authors, as I said.
02:09:21.000You know, if freedom is going to harm us.
02:09:24.000And in reading Mill, even in political theory, Mill's whole thesis, his utilitarian picture of freedom was well, like, we don't know what's the best for everybody, so people should be free to experiment and try it out, and maybe we'll learn.
02:09:37.000But in reading traditionalism, I figured out, well, we basically know what works.
02:09:42.000We basically know what's good for people, and we don't, it does us harm for people to go out and try these things.
02:09:50.000People aren't, and there was a really good quote I read by G.K. Chesterton the other day where he said that, People are not so bold that they don't want rules.
02:09:59.000They're not bold enough to want responsibilities, essentially.
02:10:02.000And that's what it came down to for me, I guess.
02:10:04.000So it's not that I'm anti liberty, but I just don't think it's axiomatic in the same way that morality is and some of these other things.
02:10:14.000Yeah, well, I guess I understand what you mean because I guess there's kind of like a breakup between the two types of sect of anarcho capitalists.
02:10:23.000There's some that just kind of want you to do whatever you want.
02:10:26.000That they don't see morality as a big deal.
02:10:29.000Like, you could do whatever you want, you know, be kind of a, and another word that I will use is a degenerate as much as you would want to be.
02:10:36.000And there's like the other sect, which is kind of like the Hoppe group, which kind of is more towards, you know, a more conservative approach where they value the family, they value like a social order or social norms.
02:10:52.000And they talk about how society would revert back to social norms if we had a pure free market system and we're like, you know, Churches would be valued.
02:11:03.000So, I don't know if you've read a lot of Hoppe.
02:11:50.000And Hoppe pretty much even criticized the students for liberty.
02:11:53.000He calls them the stupids for liberty.
02:11:55.000So, yeah, so, you know, it's a real big breakup within the anarcho capitalist community, even though I know that you don't really fall on the line of us, but I see us as like an alliance in a sense.
02:12:08.000At least the conservative portion of the libertarians.
02:12:11.000We're definitely in an alliance, and we definitely want the state.
02:12:13.000To be reduced in a sense, and I do believe in morality, values, virtues that a lot of the other side of the anarcho capitalist or the other side of libertarians kind of, I guess, fall flat on.
02:12:29.000It is an alliance, and more so because that's where I came from.
02:12:32.000I came from, like, I became more conservative, and in reading about Augusto Pinochet in that example, and getting the basic gist of Hoppe saying that, you know, possibly the best way to secure liberty is through.
02:12:47.000A more authoritarian form of government, or a less democratic one at least, is I came to these conclusions saying that in order to pursue more liberty, we might actually need more authority, ironically.
02:13:02.000It is an alliance, and I'll read more Hoppe.
02:13:04.000I'll admit I haven't read as much, and that's because and why I have kind of excluded him from my definition of libertarian is because most libertarians are not Hoppe.
02:13:23.000I know that a couple days ago you were talking about how Florida was a swing state.
02:13:29.000And one of the things that you mentioned was that there's going to be a lot of Puerto Ricans coming, which I do agree.
02:13:34.000And I'm Cuban, so I know about, and I live down here in Miami, so I know about what you're talking about when you say that other Hispanics.
02:13:44.000But one thing about the Cubans, and just so you're aware, they're actually the most conservative of the actual Hispanics.
02:14:24.000What's his name from Daily Wire tried to stump James Alsop with the Cuban example, but it's not the whole picture.
02:14:30.000If they were all Cubans, it might be different, but even then, it's more cultural than anything.
02:14:35.000Yeah, well, one of the things is that a lot of the Cubans came from Spain, are culturally from at least a European nation.
02:14:42.000And they experienced brain drain from the most productive individuals, ended up leaving the first wave at least, ended up leaving Cuba during communism's start, Castro's start.
02:14:56.000You know, really, at least until recent, the most recent Cubans are probably, to the first generation, probably the worst versions of the Cubans.
02:15:17.000And well, immigration wouldn't even be problematic, in my opinion.
02:15:20.000I mean, when I say I'm against the ethnostate, I mean, we could have a 10% minority and I would be okay with that.
02:15:25.000We could have immigration from other countries so long.
02:15:29.000As we understood the character of this country.
02:15:32.000But the problem is when, if it was brain drained Cubans coming here, and Cubans are actually one of the higher income groups per capita in terms of ethnicity, I think higher than whites.
02:15:43.000But the problem is that it's the mass replacement of people, you know.
02:15:47.000I mean, and I think we could agree those are different things, but appreciate it.
02:15:52.000Appreciate the interesting guy, Miami, Cuban, anarcho capitalist, Hoppean.
02:15:57.000I mean, you're a real individual there.
02:16:03.000Well, and by the way, I don't want to plug in my group, but if you ever are interested in a debate, like ever with people, I run a group, a co chair of a group called the Rothbardian Circle here.
02:16:17.000And if you're ever interested in going on a debate with some other individuals, we'll definitely, we'll love to have you, man.
02:16:24.000Well, I'll check it out if I'm ever in town.
02:17:42.000Yeah, I think it's worth it because we have to bring the fight to these people.
02:17:47.000And this, fundamentally, this is where the battles are waged, believe it or not.
02:17:51.000It's not on the streets of cities like Charlottesville, it's the dinner table.
02:17:55.000And I know it's boring, it's at a micro level, but I mean, this is where it happens.
02:17:59.000There's a great quote by Ronald Reagan.
02:18:01.000I know everyone's going to get, oh, you know, he's a basic bitch conservative, but he said that all change in America begins at the dinner table.
02:18:11.000And the thing to remember about the dinner table conversation is.
02:18:15.000You have to remember what the goal is.
02:18:17.000The goal is not to beat the shit out of Uncle Bob, the boomer, and beat him over the head and embarrass him with facts and try and make everyone hate non whites.
02:18:47.000Marcus Aurelius, it's all about simplicity.
02:18:51.000I really think it's a different scenario trying to convince your aunts and uncles about like Evolian racial spirits versus saying, you know, Obamacare doesn't make sense because how can more people have health care and it will cost less?
02:19:16.000You know, it's better than the usual talk, I imagine.
02:19:19.000For many families, I know when I get together, not with my grandma, because my grandma loves to talk politics, but with my other family and other people, it's the same shit.
02:19:30.000It's talking about like medical issues that people are having, it's talking about like just driving around, like television shows making me want to kill myself.
02:19:38.000So it's fun, it's educational, and you're doing your duty.
02:20:54.000But the divide, there is actually an IQ divide where Northern Italy, the average IQ is 102, I believe, and Southern Italy, I believe it's 98.
02:25:23.000Well, it's good to hear that you've really made it out of the struggles that you were having just a couple of weeks ago.
02:25:31.000Yeah, well, what happened was basically a bunch of rich people said, stop looking into something, we'll give you a ton of money, and I took it.
02:26:33.000And of being a veteran, I'm sure left over from the war.
02:26:37.000If you guys want to see what Beardson goes through, just watch The Punisher and the kid that ends up shooting up a bunch of people because he can't take it.
02:30:39.000When I was young, I would be playing Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2, I'll never forget this, on the PS3.
02:30:44.000And I was having a bad day, I was getting killed.
02:30:47.000So I took my controller, and I have this big, heavy.
02:30:51.000Like a coffee table in the living room.
02:30:53.000I took the controller, I put it on the carpet, I lifted up the table, and I smashed it on the controller, and I kept doing it until it broke.
02:31:01.000I mean, think of how angry you have to be for how long that you like smash one thing, stop, pick it all up, put it somewhere, get something else, and then something totally unrelated, and then smash that.
02:32:35.000You know, I'm from Chicago, so we say bag.
02:32:37.000And when you know, mom, dad, and this bag business, I'm sorry, not gonna work, but uh, very lovely, pretty, tough, smart, not to white knight and cuck.
02:32:46.000I mean, of course, other things, but we like her and Latin mass, definitely the Latin mass.