00:00:13.000So much to talk about, so much to get into.
00:00:17.000And of course, we are very satisfied with the latest developments on DACA.
00:00:23.000We will get into what Donald Trump has said this morning about DACA negotiations, about his comments about the shithole controversy, as well as some things that are going on with the CIA, the FBI, and of course, the Christopher Steele dossier.
00:00:41.000If people have been following the developments on my Twitter as of this morning and all of this week, the DACA negotiations are playing out basically according to plan.
00:01:22.000Tonight, we enter the live chat to mix it up a little bit with the pros.
00:01:26.000I know many people have been skeptical of what I've been saying on the show this week with regards to DACA.
00:01:31.000They doubt my intentions, they doubt my motivations, they say that I've been compromised in terms of my ideology, or maybe I'm Bill Mitchell tier, maybe my analysis is poor.
00:01:44.000Will have time to answer your questions and really, really get engaged.
00:01:48.000I know it's been a little bit combative this week, and some people like that, some people don't, but that's the way it's got to be.
00:01:54.000That's the way it has to be when we're fighting for our country.
00:01:56.000But anyway, let's get into what Donald Trump said today, this morning, about DACA.
00:02:02.000And this really, I think this really sealed the deal.
00:02:05.000And not for nothing, but my entire theory of how the DACA negotiations would unfold this week was based on the constraints set forth by both actors required to make it happen, which is a complicated way to say.
00:02:18.000That you need Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer to make a deal.
00:02:22.000You need 60 votes in the Senate to get an immigration bill passed.
00:02:26.000For that to happen, you need Chuck Schumer on board, you need Senate Republicans on board, and you need Donald Trump.
00:02:33.000The condition set forth by Donald Trump for passing a bill, for signing a bill, is that it must have a wall.
00:02:40.000The condition set out for Chuck Schumer to have his Democrats vote on the bill is that it does not have a wall.
00:02:47.000So I know I've been saying this all week, but that is the foundation.
00:02:51.000Of why I believe from the start there would be no deal.
00:02:54.000Why, besides all the tough talk, all the conciliatory talk, and all the rest, there would be no deal because the singular, the primary constraints set out by the two necessary actors to get this bill passed are diametrically opposite.
00:03:09.000So Donald Trump tweeted today he said, The so called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican senators and congressmen was a big step backwards.
00:03:22.000Wall was not properly funded, chain and lottery were made worse, and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime countries which are doing badly.
00:03:32.000I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level.
00:03:38.000I want safety and security for our people.
00:03:40.000I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs.
00:03:43.000I want to fund our military, not do a DEM defund.
00:03:47.000Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards.
00:04:12.000What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made, a big setback for DACA.
00:04:17.000Sadly, Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal, for DACA.
00:04:25.000Take care of our military and our country first.
00:04:28.000And so, what's being said in this tweet is really twofold.
00:04:33.000Number one, he is, and to observe what's happening in this tweet, number one, this is a huge departure from what was said at the meeting on Tuesday.
00:04:42.000The reason everybody was concerned, the reason people were panicking on Tuesday about President Trump on DACA was because on Tuesday, during the bipartisan meeting between Republicans and Democrats on DACA, they said that we are going to make a deal on DACA, on border security, chain migration, diversity visa, lottery system.
00:05:01.000And Donald Trump said during this meeting that he would sign anything that they passed.
00:05:06.000And that's a very troubling thing for him to say.
00:05:08.000Because you understand that the Democrats in a million years won't give Donald Trump an end to chain migration or the diversity visa lottery system or give him the wall funding that he needs.
00:06:02.000You know, Ann Coulter, everybody was up in arms.
00:06:06.000Wednesday, he made it a little bit better and he said, actually, it has to have a wall.
00:06:10.000And Mike Pence said, not only does it have to have a wall, but it has to have no diversity visa lottery system and no chain migration.
00:06:17.000And then on Thursday, he said, obviously, the comments about how he can't have Haitians in the deal.
00:06:21.000And then today, what he said, which is a huge departure from the Al-Sai and anything, he said it was a big step backwards because the wall wasn't properly funded, which is a key word there.
00:06:42.000In the legislation proposed by the bipartisan members of the Senate, the six members of the Senate plus Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham, they allocate $2.7 trillion for fence and border security.
00:06:56.000So when Trump says on Friday that that wasn't sufficient, the $2.7 trillion allocated for the border fence, which he alluded to the fact that he might be okay with on Tuesday, is actually not okay.
00:07:07.000That's not properly funding the $18 billion wall.
00:07:12.000And this was the major debate that I had with James on Nationalist Review on Wednesday.
00:07:17.000This is what people, I think the holdouts were still claiming was evidence that Trump would cuck.
00:07:22.000They said, well, Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he won't sign anything that doesn't include a wall.
00:07:26.000But on Tuesday, he said that he would accept a 700 mile discontinuous fence.
00:07:31.000Well, here we have evidence finally today, explicit, overt evidence that when he says he has to sign something that has security in DACA, what he meant by security was not the $2.7 trillion fence.
00:07:43.000That he talked about on Tuesday, or that was in the legislation proposed by Durbin and Graham on Wednesday, but rather the $18 billion wall he talked about on Friday.
00:07:53.000And then, in addition to that, he said that not only was the wall not properly funded, but chain and lottery were made worse, chain migration and the diversity visa lottery system.
00:08:01.000He said people, the U.S. would be forced to take people from high crime countries.
00:08:06.000And then, in addition to that, I mean, that's kind of the takeaway from this tweet, which is a big white pill, which is to say that Donald Trump has now firmly stated for the second round of negotiations that we have to have a wall.
00:08:36.000The second takeaway, again, conforms to my theory, which was that he is now framing the issue for the government shutdown on January 19th.
00:08:45.000The government will shut down on January 19th if the House and the Senate do not fund the government for another six or nine or 12 months, included in the DACA fix.
00:08:56.000And I said all along that the meeting on Tuesday and kind of the DACA.
00:09:00.000Bait that he was giving to Democrats was all in an attempt to frame the inevitable government shutdown.
00:09:08.000He's dangling this in front of their faces so that when the budget crisis rolls around, the government will shut down because negotiations will break down and then Democrats will be blamed for it.
00:09:29.000He's also, ostensibly, using NAFTA as well, if you look at what's been said about NAFTA, but that's Another thing.
00:09:36.000But he's also using the government shutdown in the sense that if you look at this tweet, he's saying that the Democrats will attempt a shutdown.
00:09:43.000The Dems will threaten shutdown, but what they are really doing is shutting down our military when we need it most.
00:09:50.000And he goes on to say that the Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal for DACA.
00:09:57.000Take care of our military and our country first.
00:09:59.000And so this tweet really solidifies the idea, which maybe earlier in the week didn't have much evidence, but intuitively, I predicted it.
00:10:07.000Now we have some evidence here that this is the theory that Trump is working with.
00:10:11.000This is the tactic that Trump is working with.
00:10:13.000When he said on Tuesday, if you put something in front of me, I'll sign it, and he says, I will pass a clean bill, and he deliberately reframes a clean bill as including security and DACA, and we now know that security means a wall.
00:10:27.000And now he's tweeting today that the Democrats won't give him a deal, the Democrats won't give him a fair deal, they won't allow the government to be funded.
00:10:35.000They're the ones threatening shutdown, they're the ones using shutdown to leverage Trump, not him.
00:10:41.000And when it rolls around next week, they will be blamed for it.
00:10:43.000And now, in this week between today and the government shutdown next week, Democrats will decide if it will be more politically costly for them to give Trump the wall, give him massive, massive concessions on diversity, visa lottery, and chain migration, or will they be held liable for the shutdown?
00:11:02.000And now it's on Democrats in this week, and time is running out, to decide which loss they want to take.
00:11:10.000Which will be more devastating for them?
00:11:13.000Will it be more politically devastating to be blamed for a government shutdown that could last for a very, very long time if they don't make concessions on DACA and they'll be blamed for it and they'll get killed in the midterms?
00:11:25.000Or do they want to give Donald Trump the wall, give him chain migration, give him the diversity visa lottery system, e verify, among other things?
00:11:32.000And long term, they'll be killed by conceding the demographic position.
00:11:36.000And also, they'll get killed in the midterms regardless because they will be seen as incompetent and not being able to do their only job, which was obstructing the president.
00:11:45.000So it's all right there in the language.
00:11:49.000I think it's pretty explicit when you read it a couple of times, what he's saying here.
00:11:54.000You compare it and contrast it with the statements made Wednesday, Tuesday.
00:11:57.000You start thinking about the conditional statements that have been made by these parties.
00:12:01.000I mean, that's really crucial in trying to parse what the motive here, what the incentive is here for why he's doing these things, and they're all done deliberately.
00:12:14.000I think no deal will be made, or a very good deal will be made, and either of those things are good outcomes.
00:12:19.000Remember, every single day, That we hold off on making a deal, a thousand DACA recipients lose legal protection and are at risk of deportation.
00:12:28.000If no deal is made by March 5th, if it drags out that long, all DACA recipients will lose legal protection.
00:12:34.000And remember the genius of this is that DACA was in place before.
00:12:40.000DACA was going strong until August when Trump rescinded it.
00:12:43.000And so Trump, the concession that he would be giving the Democrats, this is really the brilliant play.
00:12:48.000The only concession that we would have to give.
00:12:52.000In order to get a 300,000 per year immigrant cut with the wall, 500,000 immigrant per year cut with the end of chain migration, 75,000 immigrant per year cut with the end of the diversity visa lottery system, the only thing we would have to give to get 60 votes on all of that is something that existed three months ago.
00:13:12.000Trump took it off the table, and now he's putting it back on the table as a bargaining chip.
00:13:20.000A weaker negotiator, a less smart Republican, would concede on new things.
00:13:26.000They would say, we want to bring in more immigrants or more illegals or protect illegals that weren't part of it before.
00:13:31.000But Trump took something that was, and you may disagree with this, but the best of the illegal immigrants, you know, DACA, unlike the rest of the illegal immigrants who came here when they were adults, DACA to an extent is kids who are brought here.
00:13:47.000But I mean, to apply for DACA, if you're doing the paperwork correctly, and they're not all doing it correctly, but if you are conforming to the standards of DACA, These are people that were brought here as children.
00:13:58.000These are people that are in education.
00:14:03.000But I mean, just think of it in terms of political framing.
00:14:06.000When you have 26 million illegal immigrants here, of course you have different grades of illegal immigrant.
00:14:13.000Of course they all have to go back, and it's not right that any of them are here.
00:14:16.000But think about it in terms of you have people here that are murderers, that are drug dealers, that have been deported a bunch of times, that have cut people's heads off, and some doc recipients fall into that category.
00:14:27.000You have a lot of people that are here taking welfare.
00:14:32.000And then you have people that are DACA recipients who, you know, it's dubious whether they share the same culpability as the other illegal immigrants because a lot of them were brought here as children.
00:14:41.000And also, if they're conforming to the standards, at least they're in some kind of productive capacity in the country.
00:14:49.000And so you imagine that Trump is simply saying, I will deport all these guys, or maybe I won't.
00:14:55.000Maybe I'll give these 600,000 of 26 million illegal immigrants, of which these are probably most likely.
00:15:02.000To be not doing illegal things in exchange for everything that I want, 60 votes on everything that I want, which will win me reelection, which will win me the midterms.
00:15:41.000I so empathize with that and I so agree with it.
00:15:45.000Here's where you run into some tricky things.
00:15:48.000You imagine that we make no deal on DACA.
00:15:51.000We have 26 million illegal immigrants in this country.
00:15:54.000We have 1.5 million legal immigrants coming to the country every year.
00:15:59.000And so you imagine that it will take upwards of 10 years to deport all 26 million illegal immigrants.
00:16:06.000In the time that it would take, and that's with a very focused, concerted, expensive effort, it probably takes something more like 25 years.
00:16:12.000In the span of 10 to 25 years, you will lose the House of Representatives.
00:16:22.000You may certainly lose the federal judiciary.
00:16:24.000And the time that it would take for us to be very principled and not listen to pragmatism and not look at the numbers and not consider a deal in the time, in the 10 to 25 years that it would take, and it's not likely that this would happen, by the way.
00:16:37.000This is the best case scenario without a deal, is in 10 to 25 years with a very concerted, expensive, Herculean effort on the part of Trump.
00:16:45.000He spends all his political capital, he gets the process started.
00:16:48.000In that time period, You get Democrats elected in the Congress and in the White House.
00:16:52.000In that time, more legal immigrants come here.
00:16:55.000In the 10 years that it would take to begin deporting these people, you have an additional 15 million legal immigrants here, and they're having kids, and the illegals are having kids, which become citizens, and so on and so on and so on.
00:17:08.000And so, if somebody could show me a way that we could get everything that we want, if somebody could show me a way that we could cut legal immigration in half, and we could end the diversity visa lottery system, and we could build the wall, end birthright citizenship, implement e verify, Defund sanctuary cities, double the amount of Border Patrol agents, and we don't have to give anything, and it's irreversible forever, and we don't have to get 60 votes in the Senate, and we don't even need all the Republicans in the Senate because they won't all vote for it.
00:18:05.000If they just have residency, they don't have all of the other stuff that most people complain about, the common complaints.
00:18:13.000And those people are no different saying, we can never budge on the 600,000 people getting residency in exchange for all of this.
00:18:19.000They're no different than the people talking about my constitution.
00:18:22.000We can never go against the Constitution.
00:18:25.000It's a slap in the face to the individual to give up the Constitution.
00:18:28.000You know, it's like in a hundred years when we don't have our country, when we're under siege, when we're a minority, when the Democrats have killed us, when we don't have our guns, we don't have our rights, we don't have our culture, our people are dying, they'll say, at least I have my Constitution.
00:18:43.000And the same people with this deal, in 10 years, when millions of legal immigrants are still pouring in, millions of illegal immigrants are still here because they didn't listen to the fact that.
00:18:55.000The millions and millions of deportations in months, they will be saying, well, at least we didn't budge on DACA.
00:19:03.000At least we didn't give them residency.
00:19:06.000At least we didn't give them three year renewable residency in exchange for ending the pillage of our country by legal and illegal immigrants.
00:19:14.000At least we didn't budge on a token gesture that was already off the table.
00:19:19.000And hey, maybe your conscience is clean after that.
00:19:30.000And option one is that we reduce the amount of immigrants coming to this country by 875,000 every year.
00:19:38.000If we do the deal that was described in the Goodlot bill, we reduce the amount of immigrants by almost a million every year.
00:19:46.000So, in a way, if you don't do the deal, you're essentially saying that in exchange for getting rid of the DACA recipients, you'd like to keep 1 million legal immigrants coming in per year, right?
00:19:57.000Because if the deal says in exchange for 600,000 DACA getting residency, 800,000 per year less will come in, if you say that's not good enough, you're essentially arguing that we should continue taking 800,000 per year because it's that.
00:20:12.000It's that worth it to not allow the DACA recipients to have residency.
00:20:18.000So, option one is we reduce the amount of immigrants coming to this country in net by 8.7 million over the course of 10 years in exchange for 600,000 getting residency on top of the wall, on top of defunding sanctuary cities, and so on and so forth.
00:20:34.000Or we have nothing, and DACA expires, and they become 600,000 more of the 26 million illegal immigrants that are here in the country and not going anywhere anytime soon.
00:20:45.000And 1.5 million legal immigrants continue to pour into the country.
00:21:12.000And I guess the last thing we'll talk about, I was going to talk about CNN because CNN basically said Trump ruined his own deal.
00:21:20.000He ruined four months of negotiations between Republicans and Democrats by doing those offensive comments yesterday, offensive comments about how Haiti and Africa is a shithole, and also because he had two members of the group of six that proposed the bipartisan bill ambushed by hardline Republicans at the White House.
00:21:38.000So those two things scuttled the deal just as I predicted would happen.
00:21:43.000Again, people say I'm getting arrogant, people say I'm self absorbed or whatever, but this is exactly what I predicted, and everybody said I was wrong.
00:21:51.000But then the major other story today, we'll just touch on this briefly, but nobody's talking about this.
00:21:57.000I guarantee you nobody's talking about this.
00:21:59.000So today, Representative Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee said today in two closed door meetings with congressional Republicans that he has seen evidence showing abuse of power by the FBI.
00:22:12.000And if you've been following this, if you've been looking at everything that's happening between Devin Nunes, Paul Manafort, Christopher Steele, and some of the other things that are going on, Bruce Orr, Peter Sturzok, and those involved in the Mueller probe, you understand that the noose is tightening very rapidly around the deep state.
00:22:31.000And just to give you the gestalt of what's going on here.
00:22:36.000So basically, what happened, and this is just a summary of what happened in the past two years during the campaign, Hillary Clinton, the Clinton campaign, and the DNC paid a shell company to pay Fusion GPS, to pay Christopher Steele, who was a British spy, to collect intelligence on Donald Trump.
00:22:57.000Their Oppo research, their oppositional research.
00:23:01.000So the Clinton campaign and the DNC gave money to a shell group, which gave money to Fusion GPS, which gave it to this former British spy.
00:23:09.000They contracted a former British spy who used to work in the Soviet Union by the name of Christopher Steele to find opposition research on Donald Trump, to find out what was going on, if there was any credence to this Trump Russia stuff.
00:23:21.000And he came back, of course, with the Trump dossier.
00:23:24.000He came back with a 35 page document which alleged that Donald Trump was invited to Moscow by Vladimir Putin.
00:23:31.000To stay at the Ritz-Carlton, where he stayed in the room that was usually reserved for Barack Obama, had prostitutes pee on that bed while he watched the bed that Barack Obama used when he stayed there, and Vladimir Putin had filmed all of it and was using that as blackmail material against the president.
00:23:47.000That is the 35-page document, the Trump dossier compiled by Christopher Steele, paid for by the Clinton campaign in the DNC.
00:23:55.000Well, Representative Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee is finding out that that dossier was the basis for the FISA warrants.
00:24:03.000That were used to spy on the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team.
00:24:07.000When we hear about Michael Flynn, when we hear about Jeff Sessions and the conversations that they had with Russian ambassadors, specifically the phone conversations that Michael Flynn had with elements of the Russian government during the transition period, all of that information was uncovered using surveillance, using government surveillance.
00:24:26.000And the reason that Barack Obama was able to surveil the Trump transition team and the Trump campaign and to look into those phone calls and find out who was making them and what was going on in them.
00:24:36.000He had to go to a FISA court to obtain a FISA warrant and basically give him the right to spy on them.
00:24:42.000And these courts are pretty lenient in terms of if the president comes to them and says, I need to spy on somebody for national security, generally speaking, they give out these warrants.
00:24:51.000Well, Barack Obama came to the FISA courts with a request for a warrant in June of 2016 to spy on the Trump campaign.
00:24:58.000The CIA looked into it, the FBI looked into it, they said, You can't have a FISA warrant, there's nothing here.
00:25:03.000Well, Obama came back in September and acquired a FISA warrant.
00:25:07.000And then he started using the FISA warrant, spying on the Trump campaign, spying on the Trump transition team.
00:25:13.000Well, it's coming out that the reason that Obama was able to obtain that spying warrant was using the Trump dossier, which, if you're following the dots, means that the sitting president, Barack Obama, used a dossier, opposition research, assembled by another campaign, assembled by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, as the basis for him and his party to spy on Donald Trump.
00:25:40.000And that same dossier, not only did he illegally use that to spy on Donald Trump, I mean, imagine Democrats put together a hoax.
00:25:48.000They put together lies about their opposition party, and they used that as the basis to spy on the opposition party during the election to undermine the transitional government.
00:25:58.000On top of that, that dossier is coming to light as the basis for the Mueller probe that was put in place, of course, by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
00:26:07.000So now you have this dossier put together by the Clinton campaign, by Christopher Steele.
00:26:13.000Which is a total lie, which is a total and complete fabrication.
00:26:20.000And the Democrats put that together to spy illegally on President Trump, his campaign, and his transition, and now to challenge the legitimacy of his government using a special counsel that was put together, probably far out of reach of the jurisdiction and the scope of the deputy attorney general.
00:26:38.000So if you followed all of this, basically everyone's in deep shit.
00:26:58.000And the paper trail really goes back to Hillary Clinton.
00:27:02.000The reason they conspired to get Donald Trump not in the race and then to challenge the legitimacy of his government is that they know that Hillary Clinton was using her position as Secretary of State to funnel money into the Clinton Foundation, into the Democratic Party, by dispensing favors.
00:27:18.000She had a private email server to cover that up.
00:28:52.000And I would say it's heavily dependent on who will win out in this coming war.
00:29:00.000What the Democrats and the media are attempting to do is cause a constitutional crisis.
00:29:05.000Between what they're doing with the judiciary, the special counsel, the Russia investigation, the mainstream media, and everything else, what they are attempting to do is challenge the legitimacy of the Trump government.
00:29:16.000And that sounds like a buzzword, but I mean, they are trying to get in the minds of the people, the left, they're trying to split the country in half between people who believe that Clinton is the rightful ruler of the country and the state is the rightful ruler of the country and the intelligence community and everything else, versus the other side, which says that Trump was duly elected and it was legitimate and he is a legitimate governor of the country.
00:29:40.000And so it's tough to say who will come out of that on top.
00:29:43.000There's a lot of institutional power now on both sides.
00:29:45.000Of course, Donald Trump has the credibility that he's been in office for a year.
00:30:31.000I would imagine that my long term projection, which probably would not be very legitimate because we don't have enough information, but my bet would be that Trump sticks it out the full eight years.
00:30:41.000I imagine he comes out constitutionally sound.
00:30:44.000I imagine he gets everything that he wants done.
00:30:46.000I don't know what the foreign affairs picture will look like.
00:30:52.000It's sort of like asking what would come in 1988 with the fall of the Berlin Wall.
00:30:57.000I don't think anyone would have anticipated in 1989 that the wall falling and some of the unrest in Germany would lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union, the beginning of a unipolar world order governed by the United States, a hyperpower, and this neoconservative thing.
00:31:19.000I mean, we're at an inflection point, which you know what that means.
00:31:22.000We just go in a completely different direction if you study calculus.
00:31:26.000And so it's really tough to predict what will happen once we get over that curve, once we get over and enter into this new era.
00:31:34.000And there really will be, in my opinion, in American history, there will be pre Trump and there will be post Trump.
00:31:40.000In the same way there was pre Abraham Lincoln and post Abraham Lincoln, in the same way there was pre FDR and post FDR, there will be before Donald Trump and there will be after Donald Trump.
00:32:13.000You should be glad that you get to witness it.
00:32:15.000Of all the times you could have been born, you were born just in time to see this hilarious, The stable genius remake the world order, redefine the course of the most important nation in the history of the world's history.
00:32:34.000That's a pretty cool thing, I believe.
00:32:36.000So, Rickham says, Nick, what's your take on common sense gun laws?
00:32:40.000Do you think there should be gun laws at all?
00:32:42.000Well, I have a problem with the usage of the term common sense only because those are the kinds of euphemisms that Democrats and Republicans use to slide things by people, you know, like comprehensive immigration reform.
00:32:53.000Common sense gun laws and things of the like.
00:32:57.000Women's reproductive rights, not killing babies, not taking little babies out of the womb, dragging them out and killing them.
00:33:04.000No, no, it's women's reproductive rights.
00:33:08.000Why don't you want women to be healthy?
00:33:10.000No, we don't want babies to be killed.
00:33:11.000So it depends on what you mean by common sense gun laws.
00:33:14.000If you mean background checks, if you mean that people need to be screened for mental illness and criminal background and there should be a wait time and so on, then yeah.
00:33:23.000But it's a matter of what do you believe are common sense.
00:33:54.000You look at the chief problem of this country and its relationship between man and the government, and that problem is that.
00:34:01.000When the government was established, you had virtuous people, virtuous, responsible people.
00:34:07.000And when the population is responsible and responsibility is decentralized and it is to an extent an individualist society, the government has to take a lot less responsibility.
00:34:18.000For example, you don't need to have government charity because at the time you would have Christian charity, you would have charity by the church.
00:34:26.000You wouldn't need government community centers because you would have civic community centers run by By voluntary actors.
00:34:33.000And so, a big problem with this question of big government is the fact that we no longer have a polity that is worthy of small government, that can handle small government.
00:34:43.000When people need to have their hands held because they can't eat without spilling food all over the place, they're going to have to have rules.
00:34:51.000They can't live in this libertarian paradise.
00:35:03.000I tend to believe that any gun laws really only impede good people from getting guns.
00:35:08.000You know, if you're going to do something illegal, you do it Travis Bickle style.
00:35:12.000You meet in an apartment with somebody with a briefcase and you buy a couple of loose pieces, you know, or you get it through a straw man purchase or something.
00:35:20.000And there's very little you can do to prevent that when you have so many guns in circulation.
00:38:00.000That's the biggest problem in the world today these atheists who think they're so smart and they're the dumbest smart people in the world.
00:38:06.000You know, you look at a guy like Neil deGrasse Tyson who's so caught up, he's got his head so far up his own ass, he can't see the forest for the trees.
00:38:14.000He talks about how I watched a video of him the other day where he said, Well, you know what I do with my kids is, what did he say?
00:38:22.000He said that normal people, you know, normal plebs, normal flyover country Christian idiots, in the words of Neil deGrasse Tyson, he's so smart.
00:38:32.000Normal people tell their children about the tooth fairy.
00:38:34.000People tell them that you put the tooth under the pillow and the tooth fairy comes and exchanges it with a dollar.
00:38:40.000Well, Neil deGrasse Tyson said that he tells his kids, actually, I tell them that I hear that the tooth fairy does this, but I don't know.
00:38:48.000And so he goes on to say how his daughter does basically an experiment where she gets together with her friends and says, let's formulate this experiment where I'll put the tooth under the pillow and not tell anybody.
00:38:58.000And then if the money doesn't appear, then it was our parents all along.
00:39:02.000And he says, and you know, Kids can play with their dolls.
00:39:10.000And this is such a debasement of the human condition.
00:39:14.000This is such an insult and affront to what it means to be man, what it means to be a human being, in the sense that to say that empiricism, to say that the scientific method supersedes magic for children, that supersedes the power of mythology, the power of experience, the power of stories, of anecdotes, of analogy, and these kinds of things that really make life worth living,
00:39:41.000I mean, it's just the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life, just the most juvenile thing I've ever heard in my life.
00:39:47.000The materialist vision is such a narrow vision of what it means to be human.
00:39:51.000We are animals in the minds of atheists.
00:41:39.000I mean, that is the mark of a real statesman that he was able to look at it in that objective way, in that way that would benefit American interests and some of the other things that he did.
00:43:29.000I understand the value of it, I understand the metaphysical virtue of working out and all that, but bringing myself to do it in practice, it's just not in my nature.
00:44:35.000But I just don't know if when people spout on and off about, like, I have increased energy and I feel this and that, maybe that's more of a placebo effect.
00:44:42.000But you should stop doing it regardless.
00:46:27.000Between even support between Republican candidates, thoughts?
00:46:30.000I didn't check out his article, but yeah, I mean, it's sort of peculiar that Joe Arpaio launched himself into the race and he's about tied with Kelly Ward.
00:47:56.000If people are going to do the right thing, if people are going to be considerate, then we'll be moving forward in very short order as a company.
00:49:54.000You see it unfolding in a place like Libya and in Iraq and in Yemen and in Syria.
00:49:59.000You saw this for a long time where the horrors of disorder, the horrors of civil war, of a war of all against all, are far worse than anything instituted under Muammar Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein or Hosni Mubarak or Bashar al Assad or any one of them.
00:50:16.000And people need to wrap their heads around that.
00:50:18.000People have it in their heads that something is bad.
00:50:22.000Well, there's kind of this hubristic presupposition that what we will produce will be better than what existed before.
00:50:27.000That's kind of a heavy assumption that something's been working over there for a long time, and we have in our heads that we can go in there, knock it over, and not only will what we produce be in equal quality, but will be better.
00:50:39.000I mean, that's a pretty strong assumption.
00:50:58.000You think people would have preferred.
00:50:59.000You know, maybe their family gets kidnapped in the middle of the night because they said something bad about Saddam Hussein, or they prefer that, you know, they have to eat their babies because their kids are killed and cooked up and they're fed to their families and the families are sold into sex slavery and there's genocide and on and on and on and there's terrorist attacks all over.
00:51:37.000I've read the summary for Turner Diaries.
00:51:39.000I got two paragraphs in and I said, this is ridiculous.
00:51:42.000And anybody who's read this, anybody who could have read this beyond the first chapter, is not a serious person.
00:51:48.000And I encourage you go read the Wikipedia summary for this book and then tell me that any serious human being in politics in America today could read that and not be offended.
00:51:58.000And not only being offended like my feelings are hard, but offended like this is patently ridiculous.
00:52:43.000What a gross misunderstanding of the Arab Spring.
00:52:46.000In 2011, we were silent when the protesters overturned 40 year rule, the 40 year rule of Hosni Mubarak and his state of emergency.
00:52:55.000And everybody anticipated in the West that this would be the opening of democracy, the opening of liberalism, the introduction of the ballot box, the liberalization of the Middle East.
00:53:04.000And what the protesters wanted was not democracy.
00:54:02.000Any moderate could go in and say, I don't know if I buy all the liberal stuff.
00:54:06.000But most everybody participates in the debauchery, which is no good, which is far more corrupting than any lie a professor could tell you to have a young lady having 10 sexual.
00:54:19.000Partners before she gets married, before she drops out of college.
00:54:21.000I'm far more worried about that than I am that she learned that, you know, the Howard's Inn history book or whatever.
00:55:43.000I do not seek to change conditions, like, really, in a big sense.
00:55:49.000You want to make things marginally better.
00:55:50.000At the end of the day, I think I'm a Burkean.
00:55:52.000I think that makes me, in a way, a little bit post ideology in the sense that I don't want drastic rewriting and overhaul of all kinds of things.
00:55:59.000I want things to work, you know, whatever that takes.
00:57:49.000And I guess the impulsivity lends itself to that as well.
00:57:52.000I get a little bit autistic when people disagree with me about politics, you know, kind of like this people aren't agreeing with me, you know, triggered.
00:58:36.000Matthew, honest opinion of Lauren Southern.
00:58:38.000Well, you know, Lauren Southern is a civic nationalist, and so we're not in the same movement.
00:58:44.000I know many people would like to believe that she is somehow helpful for us or something, but we have to draw the line in the sand.
00:58:53.000She has to give us what we want in the sense that she can no longer straddle the line between getting the shekels and being alt light and getting everything that comes with it, and then at the same time have our allegiance or our respect.
00:59:08.000I know Lauren Southern defended past actions, and Lauren Southern has repeatedly denied any kind of nationalism, any kind of solid basis for nationalism in North America.
00:59:17.000That has to change, or else we're not on the same team.
00:59:20.000You know, she gets played to all kinds of alt light type people.
00:59:23.000She gets played to all kinds of alt light people.
00:59:25.000People and she doesn't give any play to our guys.
00:59:37.000I don't have a problem per se with Lauren Southern, but we just have to be clear about who we are, and people also have to be clear about who they are.
00:59:47.000You know, I am in contact, I network with a lot of people that are not in our movement, that disagree with us on a lot of things, and that's okay.
00:59:55.000But the masquerading, the deceit, The dishonesty, the disingenuousness.
01:00:51.000Billy Graham was the religious leader, correct?
01:00:53.000I know he was the founder of Liberty University, right?
01:00:56.000I believe I'm thinking of the right person.
01:00:58.000Maybe I'm having a weird slip of the mind here.
01:01:00.000If I'm thinking of the same person, then I suppose.
01:01:04.000It's tough to say because, you know, I'm very hardline about Catholicism, and I tend to believe that what drove people away from the church is that it wasn't serious enough in the 20th century.
01:01:14.000And evangelicism, Protestantism played a big part in that.
01:01:18.000This idea that we could have megachurches telling people that if you pray every night on your knees, you're going to get millions of dollars and, you know, things will go well for you.
01:03:12.000Do me a favor if you are wondering about Christian Zionists and Christians who believe that modern Judaism is the same as the Old Testament.
01:03:21.000Watch the documentary Marching to Zion.
01:03:46.000When I criticize his ideology, people have this weird aversion to.
01:03:55.000Intellectual differences in the movement.
01:03:57.000Everybody perceives like the slightest difference in thought as a personal attack or causing drama or infighting or punching right, which is so stupid, you know?
01:06:04.000And the thesis of the book is that there will be some kind of a race war.
01:06:08.000There will be a race war in which white people will take over Southwest California and acquire the nuclear arsenal that's at a military base in Southwest California.
01:06:19.000And whites will flee from Southwest California as this enclave of white people, the state within the state, starts instituting mass executions and genocide.
01:06:28.000The white people will flee, and that'll cause race war across the country.
01:06:34.000It basically culminates in a nuclear war where the white state within a state in California nukes New York City and then Russia, and then there's a global nuclear war and they're using tactical nukes on everybody.
01:06:48.000And it's just like, this is what a middle schooler would write.
01:06:51.000This is what a middle schooler would write.
01:06:52.000And it's fitting because middle schoolers buy into this nonsense.
01:06:55.000High schoolers buy into this nonsense.
01:06:57.000Impressionable youth are led into this by very stupid, manipulative people, and it's a shame.
01:07:02.000I don't think I have to go into the reasons why that's ridiculous.
01:07:05.000The U.S. government has been engaged in protracted urban warfare against an insurgency in Afghanistan for 17 years in terrain far more perilous than an American city.
01:07:16.000And they don't have surveillance everywhere, and they don't have the infrastructure that they have here.
01:07:20.000So the idea that any kind of Uprising would work in this country is so dumb.
01:07:31.000We've been in that war for 17 years in mountains and desert with a hostile population with no surveillance, basically no infrastructure, at least relative to the United States.
01:07:41.000And you think you and your band of 1,000 people or 100 people are going to displace a trillion dollar army, a $10 trillion dollar army?
01:08:08.000I think anybody could listen to him and probably, I think, get that vibe.
01:08:12.000I think anybody that watches anything that he does or interacts with him or seen anything he's ever posted could say, yeah, he was probably gay at some point.
01:08:20.000He probably was in a position where he was being sodomized in some cases.
01:08:34.000I think that lends a lot of, it gives us an idea of why he interacted with me the way he did, why he was such a fag about the Millennial stream.
01:09:07.000Seems just about as plausible as whites preventing communists from blah, Plus, you forget that we are still the majority in the armed forces.
01:09:17.000And how many of those do you think you're going to be able to turn with this silly book?
01:11:02.000I think what tends to happen in a society is that when the temporal world becomes comfortable, when the temporal world has wonders and humanism seems more viable, I think there's almost a natural aversion to God.
01:11:17.000Because if you imagine that God appeals to people who are suffering and all of that, and people, when they're in the 60s, boomers, have material abundance, they have wealth like they couldn't imagine, technology like they couldn't imagine, music, and all kinds of things.
01:11:36.000Is there really an existential need for God?
01:11:40.000I'm talking about in that context, in the perspective of the boomer.
01:11:43.000If these are young people, Who see what's going on with the revolutions in the world, and they're all, you know, they have money and they're in this great country, and for the first time, they have something called recreation and leisure.
01:11:56.000And it seems like man may be just fine.
01:12:00.000I think it's difficult to understand sacrifice.
01:12:03.000But when you see the suffering in the world, when you see the pain, when you see the limits of our existence, as Generation Z is learning, we're paying the price for it, then you start to look elsewhere.
01:12:13.000It's always easier to be an atheist when you've got everything going on.
01:12:52.000You know, for example, I was never on board with everything Milo said when I was in Army.
01:12:56.000I was never on board with everything Gavin McGinnis said.
01:12:59.000And you agree with some things and you don't agree with other things, but people come around eventually.
01:13:03.000It's important that you don't disguise what you really are.
01:13:07.000And that's a telling difference between aesthetics and kind of tactics in the sense that when I was talking about optics, I wasn't saying lie about your position.
01:13:19.000Think about how you're messaging your position.
01:13:21.000I wasn't saying lie and say it's not about race, it's about culture, and there's nothing going on with internationalism, it's just Democrats.
01:13:29.000I was saying be careful how you say that.
01:13:31.000Say it in a way that is convincing, say it in a way that people can wrap their heads around it.
01:13:37.000If you're doing a public event, maybe make it look like it's something else, but actually the message is much more overt than the imaging, which is all the difference in the world than disguising who you are and, you know.
01:13:50.000Saying you're something you're not or hiding your true feelings because I think people will come around to the truth.
01:13:54.000The truth will get out and we'll be here waiting to embrace people.
01:13:58.000And dissident right with the three shekels.
01:15:11.000He also wrote a really good biography called My Life, which is critically acclaimed, one of the best books on politics, even by normies' standards.
01:15:23.000Nick, what were your results on 23andMe?
01:15:25.00079% European, 15% Native American, 2% Middle Eastern, 1% African, regrettably, and I think like 1% Asian.
01:15:34.000And I doubt the legitimacy of those last ones.
01:15:38.000So it's probably something like 80% European, 15% Asian.
01:15:42.000Native American, of course, because I'm Mexican, and the last 5% is probably, I don't know, going really far back because there's no blacks in the immediate, like going way, way back as far as my parents and grandparents know.
01:15:59.000And people say, oh, he says he's Mexican to get points.
01:16:01.000No, I say I'm Mexican because my ancestors came from Mexico.
01:16:04.000Maybe down the line, and certainly there were Castizos that came in the European DNA, there was Iberian DNA.
01:16:10.000So they did ultimately come from Spain, but.
01:16:13.000But the immigrants came from Mexico in the last century.
01:16:16.000And it's funny because the people who say the most about being proud of who you are then try and say, yo, you're Spanish or you're this and you're that.
01:16:23.000There's Spanish blood in there, but I mean, it's the Mexican nationality.
01:16:29.000Nick, the mods keep letting Italians stay in the chat.
01:16:34.000I would remind you that Italians are responsible for the Roman Empire, the Renaissance, the Catholic Church, the invention of fascism, Evola.
01:16:51.000I got to go polish off the rest of that Domino's pizza, the Nick.
01:16:54.000But that's going to do it for us tonight.
01:16:56.000This week on America First, hope it was a good week.
01:16:59.000It was a pretty nice narrative, pretty solid narrative from Monday to Friday, seeing how the DACA thing formed and how I was vindicated every day.
01:17:07.000But I thought it was a fun week here on the show.
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