America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - The Coming Government Shutdown and Why Dems Own it | America First Ep. 85

00:00:06.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:07.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:09.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:10.000 We have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:13.000 So much to talk about, so much to get into.

00:00:17.000 And of course, we are very satisfied with the latest developments on DACA.

00:00:23.000 We will get into what Donald Trump has said this morning about DACA negotiations, about his comments about the shithole controversy, as well as some things that are going on with the CIA, the FBI, and of course, the Christopher Steele dossier.

00:00:38.000 Much To talk about, much to get into.

00:00:41.000 If people have been following the developments on my Twitter as of this morning and all of this week, the DACA negotiations are playing out basically according to plan.

00:00:51.000 I have to say, it's very hot in here.

00:00:53.000 I got a space heater down here recently, and so that's jacked all the way up from earlier today.

00:00:59.000 I got this sweater on.

00:01:01.000 May turn into the weekly sweat here tonight, but that's all right.

00:01:04.000 There is much to get into, very much excitement here.

00:01:07.000 Remember, it is a casual Friday episode tonight, so we will be getting into the live chat at the half hour mark.

00:01:14.000 This evening.

00:01:15.000 So, 7 30 Central, we'll get into the live chat.

00:01:19.000 There's no barrier to entry.

00:01:20.000 Usually, it's the super chats.

00:01:22.000 Tonight, we enter the live chat to mix it up a little bit with the pros.

00:01:26.000 I know many people have been skeptical of what I've been saying on the show this week with regards to DACA.

00:01:31.000 They doubt my intentions, they doubt my motivations, they say that I've been compromised in terms of my ideology, or maybe I'm Bill Mitchell tier, maybe my analysis is poor.

00:01:44.000 Will have time to answer your questions and really, really get engaged.

00:01:48.000 I know it's been a little bit combative this week, and some people like that, some people don't, but that's the way it's got to be.

00:01:54.000 That's the way it has to be when we're fighting for our country.

00:01:56.000 But anyway, let's get into what Donald Trump said today, this morning, about DACA.

00:02:02.000 And this really, I think this really sealed the deal.

00:02:05.000 And not for nothing, but my entire theory of how the DACA negotiations would unfold this week was based on the constraints set forth by both actors required to make it happen, which is a complicated way to say.

00:02:18.000 That you need Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer to make a deal.

00:02:22.000 You need 60 votes in the Senate to get an immigration bill passed.

00:02:26.000 For that to happen, you need Chuck Schumer on board, you need Senate Republicans on board, and you need Donald Trump.

00:02:33.000 The condition set forth by Donald Trump for passing a bill, for signing a bill, is that it must have a wall.

00:02:40.000 The condition set out for Chuck Schumer to have his Democrats vote on the bill is that it does not have a wall.

00:02:47.000 So I know I've been saying this all week, but that is the foundation.

00:02:51.000 Of why I believe from the start there would be no deal.

00:02:54.000 Why, besides all the tough talk, all the conciliatory talk, and all the rest, there would be no deal because the singular, the primary constraints set out by the two necessary actors to get this bill passed are diametrically opposite.

00:03:09.000 So Donald Trump tweeted today he said, The so called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican senators and congressmen was a big step backwards.

00:03:22.000 Wall was not properly funded, chain and lottery were made worse, and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime countries which are doing badly.

00:03:32.000 I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level.

00:03:38.000 I want safety and security for our people.

00:03:40.000 I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs.

00:03:43.000 I want to fund our military, not do a DEM defund.

00:03:47.000 Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards.

00:03:52.000 The Dems will threaten shutdown.

00:03:53.000 But what they are really doing is shutting down our military at a time we need it most.

00:03:58.000 Get smart, make America great again.

00:04:00.000 And then he tweeted after that about the shithole comment.

00:04:04.000 He said, The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, referring to what he said about Haiti and Africa.

00:04:10.000 But this was not the language used.

00:04:12.000 What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made, a big setback for DACA.

00:04:17.000 Sadly, Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal, for DACA.

00:04:25.000 Take care of our military and our country first.

00:04:28.000 And so, what's being said in this tweet is really twofold.

00:04:33.000 Number one, he is, and to observe what's happening in this tweet, number one, this is a huge departure from what was said at the meeting on Tuesday.

00:04:42.000 The reason everybody was concerned, the reason people were panicking on Tuesday about President Trump on DACA was because on Tuesday, during the bipartisan meeting between Republicans and Democrats on DACA, they said that we are going to make a deal on DACA, on border security, chain migration, diversity visa, lottery system.

00:05:01.000 And Donald Trump said during this meeting that he would sign anything that they passed.

00:05:06.000 And that's a very troubling thing for him to say.

00:05:08.000 Because you understand that the Democrats in a million years won't give Donald Trump an end to chain migration or the diversity visa lottery system or give him the wall funding that he needs.

00:05:16.000 Chuck Schumer laid that out.

00:05:18.000 So when he said on Tuesday, I'll sign anything, there is reason for concern.

00:05:22.000 There is cause for concern.

00:05:24.000 He called it a bill of love.

00:05:25.000 He said, We all want to protect the DACA recipients.

00:05:28.000 And so what he said on Tuesday was a departure from everything he had said previously, which on Friday he said that we want a wall.

00:05:35.000 That's a thousand miles long, continuous.

00:05:38.000 It's a wall.

00:05:39.000 It's not a fence or a virtual. 0.96

00:05:41.000 It's a physical wall that is a barrier between us and Mexico.

00:05:45.000 And then on Tuesday, all of a sudden, he said, Actually, I will settle for a, what did he say?

00:05:51.000 I'll settle for a 700 mile border fence, which is discontinuous, which is a big change.

00:05:56.000 Well, so he said that on Tuesday, and everybody got all bent out of shape.

00:05:59.000 They said, Donald Trump is going to sign away DACA. 0.98

00:06:01.000 Donald Trump is cucking. 0.98

00:06:02.000 You know, Ann Coulter, everybody was up in arms. 0.99

00:06:06.000 Wednesday, he made it a little bit better and he said, actually, it has to have a wall.

00:06:10.000 And Mike Pence said, not only does it have to have a wall, but it has to have no diversity visa lottery system and no chain migration.

00:06:17.000 And then on Thursday, he said, obviously, the comments about how he can't have Haitians in the deal.

00:06:21.000 And then today, what he said, which is a huge departure from the Al-Sai and anything, he said it was a big step backwards because the wall wasn't properly funded, which is a key word there.

00:06:32.000 The wall wasn't properly funded.

00:06:35.000 In the meeting on Tuesday, Donald Trump said that he would settle for like a $2 trillion.

00:06:40.000 Discontinuous fence.

00:06:42.000 In the legislation proposed by the bipartisan members of the Senate, the six members of the Senate plus Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham, they allocate $2.7 trillion for fence and border security.

00:06:56.000 So when Trump says on Friday that that wasn't sufficient, the $2.7 trillion allocated for the border fence, which he alluded to the fact that he might be okay with on Tuesday, is actually not okay.

00:07:07.000 That's not properly funding the $18 billion wall.

00:07:11.000 That he laid out on Friday.

00:07:12.000 And this was the major debate that I had with James on Nationalist Review on Wednesday.

00:07:17.000 This is what people, I think the holdouts were still claiming was evidence that Trump would cuck.

00:07:22.000 They said, well, Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he won't sign anything that doesn't include a wall.

00:07:26.000 But on Tuesday, he said that he would accept a 700 mile discontinuous fence.

00:07:31.000 Well, here we have evidence finally today, explicit, overt evidence that when he says he has to sign something that has security in DACA, what he meant by security was not the $2.7 trillion fence.

00:07:43.000 That he talked about on Tuesday, or that was in the legislation proposed by Durbin and Graham on Wednesday, but rather the $18 billion wall he talked about on Friday.

00:07:53.000 And then, in addition to that, he said that not only was the wall not properly funded, but chain and lottery were made worse, chain migration and the diversity visa lottery system.

00:08:01.000 He said people, the U.S. would be forced to take people from high crime countries.

00:08:06.000 And then, in addition to that, I mean, that's kind of the takeaway from this tweet, which is a big white pill, which is to say that Donald Trump has now firmly stated for the second round of negotiations that we have to have a wall.

00:08:19.000 And the wall is the wall.

00:08:20.000 It's not a virtual wall, it's not a fence, it's not a barrier, or, you know, mostly.

00:08:26.000 Natural barriers, it's going to be a 1,000 mile wall, continuous, tall, imposing, like he promised during the campaign.

00:08:34.000 And so that's the first takeaway.

00:08:36.000 The second takeaway, again, conforms to my theory, which was that he is now framing the issue for the government shutdown on January 19th.

00:08:45.000 The government will shut down on January 19th if the House and the Senate do not fund the government for another six or nine or 12 months, included in the DACA fix.

00:08:56.000 And I said all along that the meeting on Tuesday and kind of the DACA.

00:09:00.000 Bait that he was giving to Democrats was all in an attempt to frame the inevitable government shutdown.

00:09:06.000 He is doing this.

00:09:07.000 He's bringing up DACA.

00:09:08.000 He's dangling this in front of their faces so that when the budget crisis rolls around, the government will shut down because negotiations will break down and then Democrats will be blamed for it.

00:09:19.000 That's the crucial part. 0.91

00:09:20.000 He's using, he's like a Native American, he's using all the parts of the animal. 1.00

00:09:25.000 He's using the hide, the bones, the meat, and everything else. 0.99

00:09:28.000 He's using DACA as leverage.

00:09:29.000 He's also, ostensibly, using NAFTA as well, if you look at what's been said about NAFTA, but that's Another thing.

00:09:36.000 But he's also using the government shutdown in the sense that if you look at this tweet, he's saying that the Democrats will attempt a shutdown.

00:09:43.000 The Dems will threaten shutdown, but what they are really doing is shutting down our military when we need it most.

00:09:50.000 And he goes on to say that the Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal for DACA.

00:09:57.000 Take care of our military and our country first.

00:09:59.000 And so this tweet really solidifies the idea, which maybe earlier in the week didn't have much evidence, but intuitively, I predicted it.

00:10:07.000 Now we have some evidence here that this is the theory that Trump is working with.

00:10:11.000 This is the tactic that Trump is working with.

00:10:13.000 When he said on Tuesday, if you put something in front of me, I'll sign it, and he says, I will pass a clean bill, and he deliberately reframes a clean bill as including security and DACA, and we now know that security means a wall.

00:10:27.000 And now he's tweeting today that the Democrats won't give him a deal, the Democrats won't give him a fair deal, they won't allow the government to be funded.

00:10:35.000 They're the ones threatening shutdown, they're the ones using shutdown to leverage Trump, not him.

00:10:41.000 And when it rolls around next week, they will be blamed for it.

00:10:43.000 And now, in this week between today and the government shutdown next week, Democrats will decide if it will be more politically costly for them to give Trump the wall, give him massive, massive concessions on diversity, visa lottery, and chain migration, or will they be held liable for the shutdown?

00:11:02.000 And now it's on Democrats in this week, and time is running out, to decide which loss they want to take.

00:11:08.000 Which L are they going to take?

00:11:10.000 Which will be more devastating for them?

00:11:13.000 Will it be more politically devastating to be blamed for a government shutdown that could last for a very, very long time if they don't make concessions on DACA and they'll be blamed for it and they'll get killed in the midterms?

00:11:25.000 Or do they want to give Donald Trump the wall, give him chain migration, give him the diversity visa lottery system, e verify, among other things? 0.59

00:11:32.000 And long term, they'll be killed by conceding the demographic position.

00:11:36.000 And also, they'll get killed in the midterms regardless because they will be seen as incompetent and not being able to do their only job, which was obstructing the president.

00:11:45.000 So it's all right there in the language.

00:11:48.000 It's all right here in the tweets.

00:11:49.000 I think it's pretty explicit when you read it a couple of times, what he's saying here.

00:11:54.000 You compare it and contrast it with the statements made Wednesday, Tuesday.

00:11:57.000 You start thinking about the conditional statements that have been made by these parties.

00:12:01.000 I mean, that's really crucial in trying to parse what the motive here, what the incentive is here for why he's doing these things, and they're all done deliberately.

00:12:12.000 And so I think that's vindication.

00:12:14.000 I think no deal will be made, or a very good deal will be made, and either of those things are good outcomes.

00:12:19.000 Remember, every single day, That we hold off on making a deal, a thousand DACA recipients lose legal protection and are at risk of deportation. 0.50

00:12:28.000 If no deal is made by March 5th, if it drags out that long, all DACA recipients will lose legal protection.

00:12:34.000 And remember the genius of this is that DACA was in place before.

00:12:40.000 DACA was going strong until August when Trump rescinded it.

00:12:43.000 And so Trump, the concession that he would be giving the Democrats, this is really the brilliant play.

00:12:48.000 The only concession that we would have to give.

00:12:52.000 In order to get a 300,000 per year immigrant cut with the wall, 500,000 immigrant per year cut with the end of chain migration, 75,000 immigrant per year cut with the end of the diversity visa lottery system, the only thing we would have to give to get 60 votes on all of that is something that existed three months ago.

00:13:12.000 Trump took it off the table, and now he's putting it back on the table as a bargaining chip.

00:13:17.000 And that's the brilliant part here.

00:13:20.000 A weaker negotiator, a less smart Republican, would concede on new things.

00:13:26.000 They would say, we want to bring in more immigrants or more illegals or protect illegals that weren't part of it before.

00:13:31.000 But Trump took something that was, and you may disagree with this, but the best of the illegal immigrants, you know, DACA, unlike the rest of the illegal immigrants who came here when they were adults, DACA to an extent is kids who are brought here.

00:13:45.000 I mean, they're not kids now.

00:13:46.000 The average age is 24.

00:13:47.000 But I mean, to apply for DACA, if you're doing the paperwork correctly, and they're not all doing it correctly, but if you are conforming to the standards of DACA, These are people that were brought here as children.

00:13:58.000 These are people that are in education.

00:14:00.000 They're in job training or something.

00:14:02.000 And that's not true of all of them.

00:14:03.000 But I mean, just think of it in terms of political framing.

00:14:06.000 When you have 26 million illegal immigrants here, of course you have different grades of illegal immigrant. 1.00

00:14:13.000 Of course they all have to go back, and it's not right that any of them are here. 0.99

00:14:16.000 But think about it in terms of you have people here that are murderers, that are drug dealers, that have been deported a bunch of times, that have cut people's heads off, and some doc recipients fall into that category.

00:14:27.000 You have a lot of people that are here taking welfare.

00:14:30.000 Or that are taking low skilled jobs. 0.59

00:14:32.000 And then you have people that are DACA recipients who, you know, it's dubious whether they share the same culpability as the other illegal immigrants because a lot of them were brought here as children. 0.71

00:14:41.000 And also, if they're conforming to the standards, at least they're in some kind of productive capacity in the country. 0.88

00:14:47.000 That's not true for all of them.

00:14:49.000 And so you imagine that Trump is simply saying, I will deport all these guys, or maybe I won't.

00:14:55.000 Maybe I'll give these 600,000 of 26 million illegal immigrants, of which these are probably most likely. 0.82

00:15:02.000 To be not doing illegal things in exchange for everything that I want, 60 votes on everything that I want, which will win me reelection, which will win me the midterms. 0.99

00:15:12.000 That's kind of a good deal. 0.99

00:15:14.000 And the smart thing about it is Democrats would be very dumb to make it, but if they don't, they will be killed. 0.99

00:15:19.000 So they're damned if they do, they're damned if they don't. 0.99

00:15:23.000 And that's the art of the deal.

00:15:24.000 That's the double bind.

00:15:25.000 I know, and people have been saying this to me Nick, you can't have DACA.

00:15:29.000 We can't compromise on this.

00:15:30.000 We can't budge on this. 1.00

00:15:32.000 To have illegals in the country is a slap in the face. 1.00

00:15:35.000 It is an injustice. 1.00

00:15:36.000 They all have to go back.

00:15:37.000 And I agree with that.

00:15:39.000 I agree with that 100%.

00:15:41.000 I so empathize with that and I so agree with it.

00:15:45.000 Here's where you run into some tricky things.

00:15:48.000 You imagine that we make no deal on DACA.

00:15:51.000 We have 26 million illegal immigrants in this country.

00:15:54.000 We have 1.5 million legal immigrants coming to the country every year.

00:15:59.000 And so you imagine that it will take upwards of 10 years to deport all 26 million illegal immigrants.

00:16:06.000 In the time that it would take, and that's with a very focused, concerted, expensive effort, it probably takes something more like 25 years.

00:16:12.000 In the span of 10 to 25 years, you will lose the House of Representatives.

00:16:17.000 You will lose the Senate once.

00:16:18.000 You will lose the White House once.

00:16:20.000 You could lose the Supreme Court.

00:16:22.000 You may certainly lose the federal judiciary.

00:16:24.000 And the time that it would take for us to be very principled and not listen to pragmatism and not look at the numbers and not consider a deal in the time, in the 10 to 25 years that it would take, and it's not likely that this would happen, by the way.

00:16:37.000 This is the best case scenario without a deal, is in 10 to 25 years with a very concerted, expensive, Herculean effort on the part of Trump.

00:16:45.000 He spends all his political capital, he gets the process started.

00:16:48.000 In that time period, You get Democrats elected in the Congress and in the White House. 0.53

00:16:52.000 In that time, more legal immigrants come here. 0.95

00:16:55.000 In the 10 years that it would take to begin deporting these people, you have an additional 15 million legal immigrants here, and they're having kids, and the illegals are having kids, which become citizens, and so on and so on and so on. 0.99

00:17:08.000 And so, if somebody could show me a way that we could get everything that we want, if somebody could show me a way that we could cut legal immigration in half, and we could end the diversity visa lottery system, and we could build the wall, end birthright citizenship, implement e verify, Defund sanctuary cities, double the amount of Border Patrol agents, and we don't have to give anything, and it's irreversible forever, and we don't have to get 60 votes in the Senate, and we don't even need all the Republicans in the Senate because they won't all vote for it. 0.90

00:17:35.000 I'm all ears.

00:17:37.000 But you're comparing the real to the ideal.

00:17:40.000 In principle, we're all about that.

00:17:42.000 In principle, I agree.

00:17:43.000 But it's no different.

00:17:45.000 The people that are saying that we can never budge on DACA, we can never give them residency, which is a big difference from amnesty.

00:17:52.000 Amnesty, they get pathway to citizenship and they can vote and take welfare and everything else.

00:17:56.000 If they just have residency, they don't have access to all of that. 0.79

00:18:01.000 Let me just check and make sure.

00:18:03.000 I accidentally tapped my mic there.

00:18:05.000 If they just have residency, they don't have all of the other stuff that most people complain about, the common complaints.

00:18:13.000 And those people are no different saying, we can never budge on the 600,000 people getting residency in exchange for all of this.

00:18:19.000 They're no different than the people talking about my constitution.

00:18:22.000 We can never go against the Constitution.

00:18:25.000 It's a slap in the face to the individual to give up the Constitution.

00:18:28.000 You know, it's like in a hundred years when we don't have our country, when we're under siege, when we're a minority, when the Democrats have killed us, when we don't have our guns, we don't have our rights, we don't have our culture, our people are dying, they'll say, at least I have my Constitution. 0.54

00:18:43.000 And the same people with this deal, in 10 years, when millions of legal immigrants are still pouring in, millions of illegal immigrants are still here because they didn't listen to the fact that.

00:18:53.000 It's not going to start anytime soon.

00:18:55.000 The millions and millions of deportations in months, they will be saying, well, at least we didn't budge on DACA. 0.87

00:19:03.000 At least we didn't give them residency. 1.00

00:19:06.000 At least we didn't give them three year renewable residency in exchange for ending the pillage of our country by legal and illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:19:14.000 At least we didn't budge on a token gesture that was already off the table. 1.00

00:19:19.000 And hey, maybe your conscience is clean after that.

00:19:21.000 It certainly wouldn't be for me.

00:19:22.000 And that's not meant to vilify, it's simply to say, Look at the consequences of the two actions that can be taken.

00:19:28.000 We're at a fork in the road here. 0.99

00:19:30.000 And option one is that we reduce the amount of immigrants coming to this country by 875,000 every year. 0.61

00:19:38.000 If we do the deal that was described in the Goodlot bill, we reduce the amount of immigrants by almost a million every year.

00:19:46.000 So, in a way, if you don't do the deal, you're essentially saying that in exchange for getting rid of the DACA recipients, you'd like to keep 1 million legal immigrants coming in per year, right? 0.87

00:19:57.000 Because if the deal says in exchange for 600,000 DACA getting residency, 800,000 per year less will come in, if you say that's not good enough, you're essentially arguing that we should continue taking 800,000 per year because it's that. 0.81

00:20:12.000 It's that worth it to not allow the DACA recipients to have residency. 0.51

00:20:18.000 So, option one is we reduce the amount of immigrants coming to this country in net by 8.7 million over the course of 10 years in exchange for 600,000 getting residency on top of the wall, on top of defunding sanctuary cities, and so on and so forth. 0.77

00:20:34.000 Or we have nothing, and DACA expires, and they become 600,000 more of the 26 million illegal immigrants that are here in the country and not going anywhere anytime soon.

00:20:45.000 And 1.5 million legal immigrants continue to pour into the country. 0.89

00:20:48.000 There's no wall. 0.87

00:20:49.000 So if Trump loses in 2020, illegal immigrants come pouring right back in. 0.96

00:20:53.000 There's no e verify.

00:20:54.000 So illegal immigrants don't self deport.

00:20:57.000 We don't defund Sanctuary City.

00:20:58.000 So they'll be able to thrive in places like California and Illinois and New York and so on.

00:21:04.000 And these are the crossroads.

00:21:05.000 Show me the third way and I'll look into it.

00:21:07.000 But that's what it's looking like with DACA.

00:21:10.000 We've gone on about that at length.

00:21:12.000 And I guess the last thing we'll talk about, I was going to talk about CNN because CNN basically said Trump ruined his own deal.

00:21:20.000 He ruined four months of negotiations between Republicans and Democrats by doing those offensive comments yesterday, offensive comments about how Haiti and Africa is a shithole, and also because he had two members of the group of six that proposed the bipartisan bill ambushed by hardline Republicans at the White House.

00:21:38.000 So those two things scuttled the deal just as I predicted would happen.

00:21:43.000 Again, people say I'm getting arrogant, people say I'm self absorbed or whatever, but this is exactly what I predicted, and everybody said I was wrong.

00:21:51.000 But then the major other story today, we'll just touch on this briefly, but nobody's talking about this.

00:21:57.000 I guarantee you nobody's talking about this.

00:21:59.000 So today, Representative Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee said today in two closed door meetings with congressional Republicans that he has seen evidence showing abuse of power by the FBI.

00:22:12.000 And if you've been following this, if you've been looking at everything that's happening between Devin Nunes, Paul Manafort, Christopher Steele, and some of the other things that are going on, Bruce Orr, Peter Sturzok, and those involved in the Mueller probe, you understand that the noose is tightening very rapidly around the deep state.

00:22:31.000 And just to give you the gestalt of what's going on here.

00:22:36.000 So basically, what happened, and this is just a summary of what happened in the past two years during the campaign, Hillary Clinton, the Clinton campaign, and the DNC paid a shell company to pay Fusion GPS, to pay Christopher Steele, who was a British spy, to collect intelligence on Donald Trump.

00:22:53.000 They were putting together their op.

00:22:57.000 What is it?

00:22:57.000 Their Oppo research, their oppositional research.

00:23:01.000 So the Clinton campaign and the DNC gave money to a shell group, which gave money to Fusion GPS, which gave it to this former British spy.

00:23:09.000 They contracted a former British spy who used to work in the Soviet Union by the name of Christopher Steele to find opposition research on Donald Trump, to find out what was going on, if there was any credence to this Trump Russia stuff.

00:23:21.000 And he came back, of course, with the Trump dossier.

00:23:24.000 He came back with a 35 page document which alleged that Donald Trump was invited to Moscow by Vladimir Putin.

00:23:31.000 To stay at the Ritz-Carlton, where he stayed in the room that was usually reserved for Barack Obama, had prostitutes pee on that bed while he watched the bed that Barack Obama used when he stayed there, and Vladimir Putin had filmed all of it and was using that as blackmail material against the president.

00:23:47.000 That is the 35-page document, the Trump dossier compiled by Christopher Steele, paid for by the Clinton campaign in the DNC.

00:23:55.000 Well, Representative Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee is finding out that that dossier was the basis for the FISA warrants.

00:24:03.000 That were used to spy on the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team.

00:24:07.000 When we hear about Michael Flynn, when we hear about Jeff Sessions and the conversations that they had with Russian ambassadors, specifically the phone conversations that Michael Flynn had with elements of the Russian government during the transition period, all of that information was uncovered using surveillance, using government surveillance.

00:24:26.000 And the reason that Barack Obama was able to surveil the Trump transition team and the Trump campaign and to look into those phone calls and find out who was making them and what was going on in them.

00:24:36.000 He had to go to a FISA court to obtain a FISA warrant and basically give him the right to spy on them.

00:24:42.000 And these courts are pretty lenient in terms of if the president comes to them and says, I need to spy on somebody for national security, generally speaking, they give out these warrants.

00:24:51.000 Well, Barack Obama came to the FISA courts with a request for a warrant in June of 2016 to spy on the Trump campaign.

00:24:58.000 The CIA looked into it, the FBI looked into it, they said, You can't have a FISA warrant, there's nothing here.

00:25:03.000 Well, Obama came back in September and acquired a FISA warrant.

00:25:07.000 And then he started using the FISA warrant, spying on the Trump campaign, spying on the Trump transition team.

00:25:13.000 Well, it's coming out that the reason that Obama was able to obtain that spying warrant was using the Trump dossier, which, if you're following the dots, means that the sitting president, Barack Obama, used a dossier, opposition research, assembled by another campaign, assembled by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, as the basis for him and his party to spy on Donald Trump.

00:25:40.000 And that same dossier, not only did he illegally use that to spy on Donald Trump, I mean, imagine Democrats put together a hoax.

00:25:48.000 They put together lies about their opposition party, and they used that as the basis to spy on the opposition party during the election to undermine the transitional government.

00:25:58.000 On top of that, that dossier is coming to light as the basis for the Mueller probe that was put in place, of course, by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

00:26:07.000 So now you have this dossier put together by the Clinton campaign, by Christopher Steele.

00:26:13.000 Which is a total lie, which is a total and complete fabrication.

00:26:16.000 No witnesses, no documents.

00:26:18.000 It is a lie.

00:26:20.000 And the Democrats put that together to spy illegally on President Trump, his campaign, and his transition, and now to challenge the legitimacy of his government using a special counsel that was put together, probably far out of reach of the jurisdiction and the scope of the deputy attorney general. 0.99

00:26:38.000 So if you followed all of this, basically everyone's in deep shit. 0.98

00:26:43.000 Everybody is in major problems here. 0.99

00:26:46.000 Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, these bureaucrats, these globalist type people, they are all in very, very hot water.

00:26:56.000 What they have done is so illegal.

00:26:58.000 And the paper trail really goes back to Hillary Clinton.

00:27:02.000 The reason they conspired to get Donald Trump not in the race and then to challenge the legitimacy of his government is that they know that Hillary Clinton was using her position as Secretary of State to funnel money into the Clinton Foundation, into the Democratic Party, by dispensing favors.

00:27:18.000 She had a private email server to cover that up.

00:27:20.000 She deleted emails to cover that up. 0.76

00:27:22.000 And then the FBI covered that up.

00:27:24.000 And then when Donald Trump got into office, they had to cover that up from him.

00:27:29.000 You know, they had to cover up the cover up of the cover up.

00:27:32.000 And now they're challenging the legitimacy of his government so he can never find out.

00:27:36.000 And so you have this big long string of just like a snowball of corruption and lies and deceit and bribes and pay to play.

00:27:45.000 And it's the swamp.

00:27:46.000 It is this mess that has been going on probably for 30 years.

00:27:51.000 And it looks like it's all coming to a head.

00:27:53.000 If you're looking at the Inspector's General report, which has been delayed and it's coming out soon, and other things.

00:27:58.000 This will be the big story of 2018.

00:28:00.000 Mark my words, when this all comes to light, people are saying I'm giving people false hope or something.

00:28:05.000 Look at what's going on.

00:28:06.000 Look at the counteroffensive that's being waged.

00:28:08.000 Donald Trump called a member of the FBI.

00:28:11.000 He said he was treasonous today because he illegally spied on him.

00:28:15.000 Those are fighting words.

00:28:16.000 He wouldn't say that if he didn't have anything.

00:28:18.000 And so that's one to watch.

00:28:19.000 But we're going a little bit over past 7 30.

00:28:22.000 We'll get into your super chats and your live chat.

00:28:24.000 I'm excited to see what people are saying here.

00:28:28.000 But this is a lot of good news, this is a lot of good stuff here.

00:28:33.000 And let's see, what are people saying?

00:28:35.000 Carl Ritz and Thaler, I know this is early for you and everyone, but what will come after Trump?

00:28:41.000 Who will be our next MAGA leader when Trump is done?

00:28:44.000 Tough to say, really is too early, I would say.

00:28:47.000 I mean, we're not even one year past the inauguration.

00:28:50.000 Soon, but not yet.

00:28:52.000 And I would say it's heavily dependent on who will win out in this coming war.

00:29:00.000 What the Democrats and the media are attempting to do is cause a constitutional crisis.

00:29:05.000 Between what they're doing with the judiciary, the special counsel, the Russia investigation, the mainstream media, and everything else, what they are attempting to do is challenge the legitimacy of the Trump government.

00:29:16.000 And that sounds like a buzzword, but I mean, they are trying to get in the minds of the people, the left, they're trying to split the country in half between people who believe that Clinton is the rightful ruler of the country and the state is the rightful ruler of the country and the intelligence community and everything else, versus the other side, which says that Trump was duly elected and it was legitimate and he is a legitimate governor of the country.

00:29:40.000 And so it's tough to say who will come out of that on top.

00:29:43.000 There's a lot of institutional power now on both sides.

00:29:45.000 Of course, Donald Trump has the credibility that he's been in office for a year.

00:29:49.000 He holds the office of the president.

00:29:51.000 He won the electoral votes and he's been governing for a year.

00:29:54.000 But the Clintons have the intelligence community.

00:29:56.000 They have the deep state.

00:29:57.000 They have the CIA, the FBI, the NSA.

00:30:00.000 They have the media.

00:30:01.000 They have the banks, the businesses, the supranational organizations, and the NGOs.

00:30:06.000 I mean, they really have a lot too.

00:30:08.000 So we'll see what happens who survives the constitutional crisis, who comes out on top.

00:30:12.000 And then, of course, We'll have to see what happens to Trump.

00:30:15.000 I mean, it's really tough to predict four or maybe eight or maybe more years out.

00:30:20.000 I mean, the guy could get sick.

00:30:21.000 The guy could get assassinated, which would be a trap.

00:30:23.000 I would weep if that happened.

00:30:26.000 That would be devastating.

00:30:27.000 I mean, all kinds of things could happen.

00:30:28.000 So it's really tough to say.

00:30:31.000 I would imagine that my long term projection, which probably would not be very legitimate because we don't have enough information, but my bet would be that Trump sticks it out the full eight years.

00:30:41.000 I imagine he comes out constitutionally sound.

00:30:44.000 I imagine he gets everything that he wants done.

00:30:46.000 I don't know what the foreign affairs picture will look like.

00:30:49.000 So it's tough to say.

00:30:50.000 We're really at an inflection point.

00:30:52.000 It's sort of like asking what would come in 1988 with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

00:30:57.000 I don't think anyone would have anticipated in 1989 that the wall falling and some of the unrest in Germany would lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union, the beginning of a unipolar world order governed by the United States, a hyperpower, and this neoconservative thing.

00:31:19.000 I mean, we're at an inflection point, which you know what that means.

00:31:22.000 We just go in a completely different direction if you study calculus.

00:31:26.000 And so it's really tough to predict what will happen once we get over that curve, once we get over and enter into this new era.

00:31:34.000 And there really will be, in my opinion, in American history, there will be pre Trump and there will be post Trump.

00:31:40.000 In the same way there was pre Abraham Lincoln and post Abraham Lincoln, in the same way there was pre FDR and post FDR, there will be before Donald Trump and there will be after Donald Trump.

00:31:49.000 I really believe that.

00:31:50.000 I think he's as consequential.

00:31:53.000 If not more so than Abraham Lincoln or FDR or Reagan or any others.

00:31:59.000 And you understand that if you look at the trajectory, the gravity of what's happening, it's not so simple as high taxes and war.

00:32:06.000 It's really what it means to be an American.

00:32:09.000 So big things happening.

00:32:11.000 Exciting time to be alive.

00:32:13.000 You should be glad that you get to witness it.

00:32:15.000 Of all the times you could have been born, you were born just in time to see this hilarious, The stable genius remake the world order, redefine the course of the most important nation in the history of the world's history.

00:32:34.000 That's a pretty cool thing, I believe.

00:32:36.000 So, Rickham says, Nick, what's your take on common sense gun laws?

00:32:40.000 Do you think there should be gun laws at all?

00:32:42.000 Well, I have a problem with the usage of the term common sense only because those are the kinds of euphemisms that Democrats and Republicans use to slide things by people, you know, like comprehensive immigration reform.

00:32:53.000 Common sense gun laws and things of the like.

00:32:57.000 Women's reproductive rights, not killing babies, not taking little babies out of the womb, dragging them out and killing them. 1.00

00:33:04.000 No, no, it's women's reproductive rights. 0.96

00:33:06.000 Oh, you're not for women's health? 1.00

00:33:08.000 Why don't you want women to be healthy? 1.00

00:33:10.000 No, we don't want babies to be killed. 0.64

00:33:11.000 So it depends on what you mean by common sense gun laws.

00:33:14.000 If you mean background checks, if you mean that people need to be screened for mental illness and criminal background and there should be a wait time and so on, then yeah.

00:33:23.000 But it's a matter of what do you believe are common sense.

00:33:28.000 That's a big part of it.

00:33:29.000 A lot of the, look, the people that have problems with guns, by the way, who are the people that have problems with guns?

00:33:35.000 You look at the gun deaths in the country, who are the people that have problems with guns?

00:33:39.000 Is the problem that we don't have enough laws in place?

00:33:42.000 Is the problem that we just don't have enough regulations in place?

00:33:45.000 Or is the problem that the polity that uses the guns is irresponsible and doesn't ought to handle them?

00:33:50.000 They think they're toys or it's a game or something.

00:33:53.000 And that's the problem.

00:33:54.000 You look at the chief problem of this country and its relationship between man and the government, and that problem is that.

00:34:01.000 When the government was established, you had virtuous people, virtuous, responsible people.

00:34:07.000 And when the population is responsible and responsibility is decentralized and it is to an extent an individualist society, the government has to take a lot less responsibility.

00:34:18.000 For example, you don't need to have government charity because at the time you would have Christian charity, you would have charity by the church.

00:34:26.000 You wouldn't need government community centers because you would have civic community centers run by By voluntary actors.

00:34:33.000 And so, a big problem with this question of big government is the fact that we no longer have a polity that is worthy of small government, that can handle small government.

00:34:43.000 When people need to have their hands held because they can't eat without spilling food all over the place, they're going to have to have rules.

00:34:51.000 They can't live in this libertarian paradise.

00:34:53.000 So, that's a big part of it.

00:34:56.000 So, that's, I mean, on the legal stuff, that's usually my position.

00:35:00.000 But yeah, I would be in favor of.

00:35:01.000 Common sense gun reform.

00:35:03.000 I tend to believe that any gun laws really only impede good people from getting guns.

00:35:08.000 You know, if you're going to do something illegal, you do it Travis Bickle style.

00:35:12.000 You meet in an apartment with somebody with a briefcase and you buy a couple of loose pieces, you know, or you get it through a straw man purchase or something.

00:35:20.000 And there's very little you can do to prevent that when you have so many guns in circulation.

00:35:25.000 So I think it's funny.

00:35:26.000 You know what the real common sense gun law should be?

00:35:28.000 The real common sense gun law should be who the United States government sells its guns to, right?

00:35:33.000 You know, Democrats are so worried about who we sell guns to in this country.

00:35:36.000 We're the number one arms dealer in the world.

00:35:38.000 We're giving weapons to ISIS. 0.92

00:35:39.000 We're giving weapons to Al Qaeda. 0.93

00:35:41.000 We're giving weapons to Saudi Arabia, God knows who else. 0.62

00:35:45.000 And we're worried about guns in the hands of American citizens.

00:35:48.000 I'm far less afraid. 0.72

00:35:51.000 Excuse me, guns in the hands of American citizens that I am in the hands of Israel or Saudi Arabia, right?

00:35:57.000 I mean, all the advanced weaponry ended up in the hands of ISIS.

00:35:59.000 Where's the common sense gun reform from the Democrats on that one, right?

00:36:02.000 And I know you didn't mean it like that, but it's just funny to juxtapose there. 0.75

00:36:08.000 And let's see, somebody with a double shekel, but they retracted their message. 0.98

00:36:13.000 Reformed bug man, malibtardists, fence sitters of the world unite. 1.00

00:36:17.000 Yeah, basically. 1.00

00:36:18.000 I mean, it's people that have no values.

00:36:20.000 The most prominent ideology in the world today is apathy.

00:36:24.000 The most prominent ideology in the world is I don't care.

00:36:24.000 Right?

00:36:27.000 I don't believe in objective right and wrong.

00:36:30.000 I have an opinion, but everybody else is entitled to their opinion.

00:36:32.000 Well, you don't really believe in anything, right?

00:36:34.000 You know, if you're not offending anybody, you don't believe in anything.

00:36:38.000 Well, I kind of believe the world should be a certain way, but, you know, I could be wrong and everybody's entitled to their opinion.

00:36:44.000 Well, obviously, you don't feel very strongly then, right?

00:36:48.000 So, yeah, that's the liberals.

00:36:50.000 It's very easy to be this social liberal, fiscal conservative, because what it boils down to is.

00:36:55.000 Is I don't want to change the status quo.

00:36:58.000 I don't want to fight with anyone.

00:37:00.000 Everybody should be able to do whatever they want.

00:37:01.000 And that's not really a controversial position.

00:37:04.000 I used to be a libertarian, and that was the most popular position in the world.

00:37:07.000 You would wow Republicans and Democrats by how you'd be able to appease everybody by saying, basically, it's a big effing free for all.

00:37:15.000 And we can let the country go to hell so long as we have free markets.

00:37:19.000 You're free to buy a thousand different brands of detergent at Walmart for a dollar.

00:37:24.000 And so, yeah, that's the liberals.

00:37:26.000 That's the classical liberals.

00:37:29.000 I don't believe in anything.

00:37:30.000 There's no objective right and wrong.

00:37:31.000 It's all relative.

00:37:33.000 You don't even know the first thing about what you're saying.

00:37:36.000 And that's Sargon of Akkad.

00:37:37.000 He does not know what he doesn't know.

00:37:40.000 Think about that one.

00:37:43.000 Simon Skola, thoughts on Sargon's ongoing meltdown?

00:37:46.000 I haven't really been paying attention to it.

00:37:47.000 I don't really watch the eCeleb stuff, I don't watch any content by anybody, really.

00:37:53.000 So I haven't been paying attention.

00:37:56.000 The liberalist thing is just so goofy. 1.00

00:37:58.000 What a dummy. 1.00

00:37:59.000 What a low IQ person. 1.00

00:38:00.000 That's the biggest problem in the world today these atheists who think they're so smart and they're the dumbest smart people in the world. 1.00

00:38:06.000 You know, you look at a guy like Neil deGrasse Tyson who's so caught up, he's got his head so far up his own ass, he can't see the forest for the trees. 1.00

00:38:14.000 He talks about how I watched a video of him the other day where he said, Well, you know what I do with my kids is, what did he say? 1.00

00:38:22.000 He said that normal people, you know, normal plebs, normal flyover country Christian idiots, in the words of Neil deGrasse Tyson, he's so smart. 0.99

00:38:32.000 Normal people tell their children about the tooth fairy. 0.99

00:38:34.000 People tell them that you put the tooth under the pillow and the tooth fairy comes and exchanges it with a dollar.

00:38:40.000 Well, Neil deGrasse Tyson said that he tells his kids, actually, I tell them that I hear that the tooth fairy does this, but I don't know.

00:38:48.000 And so he goes on to say how his daughter does basically an experiment where she gets together with her friends and says, let's formulate this experiment where I'll put the tooth under the pillow and not tell anybody.

00:38:58.000 And then if the money doesn't appear, then it was our parents all along.

00:39:02.000 And he says, and you know, Kids can play with their dolls.

00:39:05.000 They don't need imagination.

00:39:07.000 They don't need to have these lies told to them.

00:39:08.000 I'm not going to lie to children.

00:39:10.000 And this is such a debasement of the human condition.

00:39:14.000 This is such an insult and affront to what it means to be man, what it means to be a human being, in the sense that to say that empiricism, to say that the scientific method supersedes magic for children, that supersedes the power of mythology, the power of experience, the power of stories, of anecdotes, of analogy, and these kinds of things that really make life worth living, 0.97

00:39:41.000 I mean, it's just the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life, just the most juvenile thing I've ever heard in my life.

00:39:47.000 The materialist vision is such a narrow vision of what it means to be human. 1.00

00:39:51.000 We are animals in the minds of atheists.

00:39:53.000 We are dogs. 1.00

00:39:55.000 We are worms in the minds of atheists. 0.99

00:39:55.000 We are ants. 0.99

00:39:59.000 They want to drag us back down so that we are beasts. 0.56

00:40:03.000 And that kills me. 0.91

00:40:05.000 And that's that liberalist kind of thing.

00:40:06.000 That's that Neil deGrasse Tyson kind of thing.

00:40:08.000 They are the last men.

00:40:10.000 They make the world small.

00:40:12.000 That's what they do.

00:40:13.000 We have to think big.

00:40:14.000 We have to appeal to our higher nature, appeal to what's godly in us.

00:40:20.000 You know?

00:40:21.000 And they want to strip us of all of that and make it this, I don't even know, soulless, soulless, godless materialism.

00:40:30.000 That's the war that we're fighting against, right?

00:40:34.000 Martin Barnsley, hail from Scotland, Nick.

00:40:36.000 Hail Scotland, right?

00:40:38.000 Go, go Scots.

00:40:41.000 Simon Skola, looking like John Wick tonight.

00:40:43.000 Is that that's that movie, right?

00:40:45.000 I guess.

00:40:46.000 I guess I was a little late coming out of the shower.

00:40:49.000 Maybe it's my hair or is it my jacket? 1.00

00:40:53.000 Tans, Tans, says, stay out of the shitholes, you dicks. 1.00

00:40:57.000 Okay, all right. 1.00

00:40:59.000 True, though.

00:40:59.000 True.

00:41:00.000 Highly true.

00:41:01.000 But, yeah, rough.

00:41:03.000 Carl Witzenthaler, honest opinion on the great Richard Nixon.

00:41:05.000 Thanks.

00:41:06.000 Big fan of Richard Nixon.

00:41:07.000 Richard Nixon is a great statesman.

00:41:09.000 He was among the last great American statesmen.

00:41:13.000 Truly a man post ideology, a real pragmatist.

00:41:17.000 I really have an affinity for Nixon.

00:41:19.000 I think he's very underrated.

00:41:20.000 You know, you look at his foreign policy, for example, where in a very similar way to Donald Trump, he leveraged the Pacific.

00:41:26.000 With the Middle East.

00:41:27.000 He leveraged what was going on in Vietnam and China with what was going on in the Middle East.

00:41:31.000 Very similar strategy to Donald Trump.

00:41:34.000 And additionally, you look at the policy of detente, which was brilliant.

00:41:38.000 You look at the opening to China.

00:41:39.000 I mean, that is the mark of a real statesman that he was able to look at it in that objective way, in that way that would benefit American interests and some of the other things that he did.

00:41:49.000 I mean, that was a real statesman.

00:41:51.000 So I have a lot of respect for Nixon.

00:41:53.000 I think him, Donald Trump, I think they're of a different strain fundamentally than the more ideological presidents like.

00:41:59.000 Bush or Reagan or Obama.

00:42:03.000 So, big fan.

00:42:05.000 That's my honest opinion.

00:42:06.000 I don't think he did anything wrong either.

00:42:08.000 John Doe, if we can't have an ethno state, can we at least.

00:42:11.000 Okay, really?

00:42:12.000 Come on.

00:42:13.000 You know, you try to have a show, you try to appeal to the Norveys, and then you get this kind of stuff.

00:42:18.000 Come on, my friend.

00:42:20.000 Glass half empty says, Where has James been?

00:42:22.000 Also, did you see Worski?

00:42:23.000 I don't know where James has been.

00:42:25.000 You know, it's funny because he does videos on his channel, but I mean, he started his podcast, and there was one episode this week, so.

00:42:32.000 I don't know where he's been.

00:42:33.000 I don't know where he's been.

00:42:34.000 I've been texting him.

00:42:35.000 I hope he's okay.

00:42:36.000 I hope he's doing all right.

00:42:38.000 Also, did you see Worski?

00:42:40.000 What about Worski?

00:42:43.000 Generally?

00:42:44.000 I don't know what you mean.

00:42:45.000 About the Sargon and Spencer debate?

00:42:47.000 Not totally sure what you mean by that one.

00:42:50.000 Alyssa Love, Muscle Milk Nick.

00:42:54.000 Let's go.

00:42:54.000 Well, I will have to start working out so that I can be cut for my appearance at American Renaissance.

00:43:01.000 When I show up and rub shoulders with all the preeminent Nazi white supremists, I want to be a little cut.

00:43:07.000 I want to be walking around like a real chat. 0.97

00:43:10.000 I want to be stunting.

00:43:11.000 You know, I want to be busting out of my suit.

00:43:13.000 So, I got to start working out in time for that conference.

00:43:17.000 They say that shows results in six to eight weeks, so I have time.

00:43:21.000 That's my New Year's resolution, right?

00:43:24.000 It's just very difficult for me to get motivated to do the workouts and stuff.

00:43:28.000 It's just not where my head is at.

00:43:29.000 I understand the value of it, I understand the metaphysical virtue of working out and all that, but bringing myself to do it in practice, it's just not in my nature.

00:43:40.000 Tanced, Nick, shill for no fap. 1.00

00:43:42.000 Get these goons jacked up.

00:43:44.000 I don't really believe in the science behind that. 1.00

00:43:46.000 I mean, I'm against it, of course.

00:43:48.000 I'm obviously against the FAP.

00:43:50.000 I'm pro no FAP.

00:43:51.000 However, I don't know if the science, I think it's a little bit pseudoscientific.

00:43:55.000 I think you should stop for different reasons. 0.95

00:43:57.000 I believe that porn rots your brain, it really destroys your brain.

00:44:02.000 It destroys the chemistry between men and women, it dehumanizes man. 0.57

00:44:06.000 I really believe it invites evil into your home.

00:44:10.000 It really corrupts your soul in ways that it's hard to articulate.

00:44:15.000 So, I'm against it for that reason, for more of a moral reason, maybe more of a spiritual reason.

00:44:22.000 And definitely it does mess with your brain chemistry.

00:44:24.000 But I don't know if FAP in and of itself brings all these physiological benefits that people talk about.

00:44:30.000 Certainly I'd like to see a study about that.

00:44:32.000 But I'm generally against no FAP.

00:44:35.000 But I just don't know if when people spout on and off about, like, I have increased energy and I feel this and that, maybe that's more of a placebo effect.

00:44:42.000 But you should stop doing it regardless.

00:44:45.000 Simon Skola, rumor going around.

00:44:48.000 That Faith cheated on her fiance.

00:44:49.000 Well, you know, I don't like to spread rumors. 0.96

00:44:51.000 You know, I don't think it's right to go digging around into her personal life.

00:44:56.000 You know, so Faith is a good gal.

00:45:02.000 So don't want to jump.

00:45:03.000 You know, the drama stuff, not interested in it.

00:45:06.000 Finbar Manning.

00:45:08.000 Will Pence stick around for the second term?

00:45:10.000 He might not have been Trump's first choice.

00:45:13.000 So could he try and jettison him?

00:45:15.000 I don't know.

00:45:16.000 I think Pence has been a pretty strong lieutenant.

00:45:16.000 I don't think so.

00:45:22.000 With President Trump.

00:45:23.000 I think he's been a pretty strong second in command, a pretty strong point man for the president.

00:45:28.000 I mean, you can tell that President Trump has never gone against Pence.

00:45:31.000 I mean, he's hit everybody in his cabinet.

00:45:33.000 He's gone against, in some form or another, just about everybody in the cabinet.

00:45:37.000 But he's always been pretty respectful of Pence.

00:45:39.000 I think they have a good relationship.

00:45:41.000 He's the only one that's outlasted just about everybody.

00:45:44.000 You think about everybody in the Trump cabinet from Bannon, Priebus, Corey Lewandowski, Paul Manafort.

00:45:53.000 You can look at other people in the cabinet.

00:45:55.000 In terms of like Sean Spicer, some of the lower people, Anthony Scaramucci.

00:45:59.000 I mean, just about everybody that existed in the cabinet in a prominent place besides Pence.

00:46:05.000 You know, Gorka left too.

00:46:06.000 Besides Pence and maybe like Mattis, just about everybody else is gone.

00:46:10.000 Mattis, Sessions, and Pence have all stuck around.

00:46:12.000 In that case, I think pretty strong record that they'll be sticking around.

00:46:18.000 He could shake it up as well.

00:46:18.000 But who knows?

00:46:20.000 Rick M says I saw Lil Schappy, Ben Shapiro's article on the Arizona primary today.

00:46:25.000 Polls are showing even support.

00:46:27.000 Between even support between Republican candidates, thoughts?

00:46:30.000 I didn't check out his article, but yeah, I mean, it's sort of peculiar that Joe Arpaio launched himself into the race and he's about tied with Kelly Ward.

00:46:42.000 And who's the other one?

00:46:43.000 It's like McSally or something.

00:46:45.000 I can't remember the last one's name.

00:46:46.000 Haven't been following that race too closely, but it seems like they're all pretty strong.

00:46:50.000 It seems like Kelly Ward is pretty strong in immigration.

00:46:52.000 Joe Arpaio, obviously, very strong in immigration.

00:46:55.000 It seems like the third, I think it's McSally, right?

00:46:58.000 Or is it somebody else?

00:46:59.000 Let me check the live chat and see if somebody posted it. 0.96

00:47:03.000 McSally, you know, whatever her name is.

00:47:05.000 Yeah, McSally.

00:47:07.000 She came out pretty strongly against the DACA deal, the bipartisan one.

00:47:10.000 So, I guess I haven't looked into her too much as opposed to the others.

00:47:14.000 So, I don't know.

00:47:15.000 We'll see what happens.

00:47:16.000 Have to see how this one plays out a little bit.

00:47:18.000 I've only seen one poll on it from ABC, and they were all basically tied.

00:47:22.000 I think it was 31 for McSally, something like 25 for Arpeo, and a little bit less for Ward.

00:47:30.000 Beepus says, Nick, whatever happened to America First activism, it's on the way.

00:47:36.000 We have hit a little bit of an impediment in the company.

00:47:40.000 It's up to the partners to decide if it's going to resolve or not.

00:47:44.000 And we'll see what happens.

00:47:45.000 But, I guarantee it's coming.

00:47:47.000 It's coming in this form or in another form, probably by fall 2018.

00:47:52.000 And you'll hear more about it in the coming weeks.

00:47:55.000 We'll see what happens, all right?

00:47:56.000 We'll see what happens.

00:47:56.000 If people are going to do the right thing, if people are going to be considerate, then we'll be moving forward in very short order as a company.

00:48:02.000 If not, we'll see what happens. 0.82

00:48:04.000 John Doe with the single shekel. 1.00

00:48:05.000 Thank you so much, my friend.

00:48:07.000 Joshua Morris, how much do you love Catboys and why?

00:48:10.000 I don't.

00:48:11.000 Every time you see my account talk about Catboys, I was hacked, okay?

00:48:15.000 I was hacked.

00:48:17.000 So, I can't really speak to that.

00:48:18.000 Whatever the hacker's predilection for Catboys is, I can't really speak to that.

00:48:22.000 Don't really know what you're talking about there.

00:48:25.000 Totally deny it.

00:48:27.000 I was hacked.

00:48:27.000 But let's check out the live chat and see what's going on here.

00:48:32.000 We'll mingle with the masses on Casual Friday here.

00:48:36.000 Of course I joke.

00:48:37.000 Of course I joke.

00:48:40.000 Let's see.

00:48:42.000 Is Nick planning a terrorist attack?

00:48:43.000 He seems like it, says Malik Obama.

00:48:46.000 The answer is no.

00:48:47.000 The answer is no.

00:48:49.000 And, you know, especially like what a hard stance I've taken against siege posting and the like in my Discord.

00:48:55.000 People know I'm a nonviolent person.

00:48:58.000 And the reason why is because violent activism on the right wing is doomed to failure.

00:49:04.000 So I've made arguments in the past why violence is the wrong answer.

00:49:06.000 People like Millennial Woes talk about violence and others talk about violence.

00:49:11.000 I've always been very clear I'm an anti violence kind of a guy.

00:49:16.000 Joshua Moore says, Nick lies.

00:49:17.000 He loves Catboys.

00:49:18.000 Yeah, I was hacked.

00:49:19.000 So, um, You're wrong.

00:49:22.000 Nick, your music is too loud every time.

00:49:24.000 Well, turn your speakers down, all right?

00:49:26.000 Sheesh.

00:49:28.000 Nick, what do you think about pre 2003 Iraq? 1.00

00:49:31.000 I think it was preferable to the current state of Iraq. 0.99

00:49:35.000 Again, I'm a Hobbesian. 1.00

00:49:36.000 In the sense that I'm a traditionalist, I'm a Hobbesian.

00:49:38.000 I prefer, and I think it's preferable universally, a bad order to disorder.

00:49:45.000 It's better to have an order which is flawed, which may be unjust, to total disorder.

00:49:50.000 Disorder is like.

00:49:52.000 Is like death.

00:49:53.000 I mean, it's chaos.

00:49:54.000 You see it unfolding in a place like Libya and in Iraq and in Yemen and in Syria.

00:49:59.000 You saw this for a long time where the horrors of disorder, the horrors of civil war, of a war of all against all, are far worse than anything instituted under Muammar Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein or Hosni Mubarak or Bashar al Assad or any one of them.

00:50:16.000 And people need to wrap their heads around that.

00:50:18.000 People have it in their heads that something is bad.

00:50:20.000 We need to go in and fix it.

00:50:22.000 Well, there's kind of this hubristic presupposition that what we will produce will be better than what existed before.

00:50:27.000 That's kind of a heavy assumption that something's been working over there for a long time, and we have in our heads that we can go in there, knock it over, and not only will what we produce be in equal quality, but will be better.

00:50:39.000 I mean, that's a pretty strong assumption. 0.95

00:50:41.000 That's a pretty ignorant assumption. 0.97

00:50:44.000 And so, Iraq was a perfect example of this. 0.99

00:50:47.000 Saddam Hussein is bad. 0.51

00:50:49.000 Therefore, we should go in and change it because we will produce something better. 0.99

00:50:53.000 You don't know that.

00:50:54.000 Obviously, we didn't know that.

00:50:55.000 And what we produced was far worse. 0.99

00:50:57.000 We produced ISIS. 0.97

00:50:58.000 You think people would have preferred. 0.98

00:50:59.000 You know, maybe their family gets kidnapped in the middle of the night because they said something bad about Saddam Hussein, or they prefer that, you know, they have to eat their babies because their kids are killed and cooked up and they're fed to their families and the families are sold into sex slavery and there's genocide and on and on and on and there's terrorist attacks all over. 0.76

00:51:19.000 Think of what's preferable there.

00:51:21.000 Neither are good options, but we have to choose.

00:51:26.000 Simon Schoe, I read the Turner Diaries in middle school, but what is Siege about?

00:51:30.000 Is it basically the same as the Turner Diaries?

00:51:32.000 I haven't read Siege or the Turner Diaries, but I mean, it's the same premise.

00:51:36.000 I understand.

00:51:37.000 I've read the summary for Turner Diaries. 0.92

00:51:39.000 I got two paragraphs in and I said, this is ridiculous. 0.85

00:51:42.000 And anybody who's read this, anybody who could have read this beyond the first chapter, is not a serious person.

00:51:48.000 And I encourage you go read the Wikipedia summary for this book and then tell me that any serious human being in politics in America today could read that and not be offended. 0.89

00:51:58.000 And not only being offended like my feelings are hard, but offended like this is patently ridiculous. 0.67

00:52:05.000 So there you go. 0.95

00:52:07.000 That was a super chat.

00:52:08.000 Matthew says, read Siege. 0.98

00:52:10.000 Ah, you're goofy. 0.99

00:52:11.000 You're goofy. 1.00

00:52:12.000 No, do not. 0.99

00:52:14.000 Do not.

00:52:14.000 That is the only book I will tell you not to read.

00:52:18.000 Nick, would Republicans have a better chance running Pence or Trump in 2020?

00:52:22.000 I believe Trump.

00:52:23.000 I believe Trump. 1.00

00:52:25.000 I'm thinking of making a t shirt like I Hate Haitians, something cool and catchy. 1.00

00:52:31.000 That's comical. 1.00

00:52:31.000 I don't know how that'll play out. 1.00

00:52:34.000 Saddam was a horrific waste of breath, but Iraq wasn't thankful for his ending. 0.99

00:52:38.000 They live a different life than Americans. 1.00

00:52:41.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:52:42.000 And look at what happened in Egypt.

00:52:43.000 What a gross misunderstanding of the Arab Spring.

00:52:46.000 In 2011, we were silent when the protesters overturned 40 year rule, the 40 year rule of Hosni Mubarak and his state of emergency.

00:52:55.000 And everybody anticipated in the West that this would be the opening of democracy, the opening of liberalism, the introduction of the ballot box, the liberalization of the Middle East.

00:53:04.000 And what the protesters wanted was not democracy.

00:53:07.000 They didn't want liberalism. 0.97

00:53:08.000 They elected the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:53:10.000 When they had elections, they elected Mohammed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:53:13.000 They wanted more fundamentalism, they wanted more.

00:53:15.000 I wanted more, I guess, what would you call that?

00:53:19.000 Insulation from the outside world, from westernizing influences, and not the opposite. 0.98

00:53:25.000 And that was true in Egypt. 0.98

00:53:26.000 That was true in Iraq.

00:53:27.000 That was true in Syria.

00:53:29.000 That's true everywhere.

00:53:31.000 So you're right.

00:53:33.000 Nick, do you think college is an institution of degenerate behavior?

00:53:37.000 I missed it.

00:53:37.000 I think that was the end.

00:53:39.000 Yeah, it's an institution of degenerate behavior now.

00:53:42.000 Absolutely.

00:53:43.000 Absolutely.

00:53:45.000 Look at what goes on in colleges drugs, alcohol, hedonistic.

00:53:48.000 Sex. 0.59

00:53:49.000 Marxist indoctrination. 0.96

00:53:51.000 I wouldn't even be worried so much about the Marxist indoctrination if it weren't for the social corruption.

00:53:55.000 That's the most pernicious evil.

00:53:58.000 Any regular person could go into a class and say, that's too liberal.

00:54:01.000 I don't agree with that.

00:54:02.000 Any moderate could go in and say, I don't know if I buy all the liberal stuff.

00:54:06.000 But most everybody participates in the debauchery, which is no good, which is far more corrupting than any lie a professor could tell you to have a young lady having 10 sexual.

00:54:19.000 Partners before she gets married, before she drops out of college.

00:54:21.000 I'm far more worried about that than I am that she learned that, you know, the Howard's Inn history book or whatever.

00:54:28.000 Nick, quit bullying James.

00:54:30.000 I'm not bullying James.

00:54:33.000 I'm not bullying James.

00:54:36.000 James can take it.

00:54:37.000 James is a chat, right?

00:54:39.000 Nick, have you seen the movie Look Who's Back?

00:54:41.000 Big inadvertent red pill.

00:54:42.000 No, I have not. 0.97

00:54:45.000 Nick, what should we do about the tummy posters? 0.98

00:54:48.000 We should, oh, we should definitely stop them. 0.83

00:54:53.000 We should definitely try and stop tummy posting as much as we, yeah. 0.99

00:54:58.000 We should do all tummy posters. 0.99

00:55:01.000 Forward all tummy posters to me and I will deal with them at once. 0.69

00:55:05.000 Forward all tummy posters to me and I will deal with them as brutally. 0.95

00:55:10.000 I will prosecute the tummy posters to the furthest extent of Catholic doctrine. 0.91

00:55:17.000 But you have to forward them to me first.

00:55:20.000 Who's posting tummies?

00:55:21.000 Get those names to me and I'll have a talk with them and we'll put a stop to it.

00:55:26.000 Let's see.

00:55:29.000 Nick, favorite political ideology and why is it fascism?

00:55:32.000 Well, I don't know.

00:55:34.000 I don't believe in ideology.

00:55:35.000 I think fascism, in a way, is kind of post ideology.

00:55:39.000 I believe in post ideology in the sense that I am not a progressive.

00:55:42.000 I'm not a utopian.

00:55:43.000 I do not seek to change conditions, like, really, in a big sense.

00:55:49.000 You want to make things marginally better.

00:55:50.000 At the end of the day, I think I'm a Burkean.

00:55:52.000 I think that makes me, in a way, a little bit post ideology in the sense that I don't want drastic rewriting and overhaul of all kinds of things.

00:55:59.000 I want things to work, you know, whatever that takes.

00:56:03.000 Begbie with the two shekels.

00:56:05.000 Thank you.

00:56:07.000 Nick plus Lauren Rose equals star and baby.

00:56:10.000 No, no, no.

00:56:11.000 I disavow.

00:56:12.000 I disavow.

00:56:13.000 Disavow. 1.00

00:56:15.000 Lauren is, she's a good lady, but, you know, she's a content creator. 0.99

00:56:20.000 She's a content creator. 0.99

00:56:21.000 But no, she's smart.

00:56:22.000 She's cool.

00:56:24.000 But I wouldn't want to, we want to focus on the movement right now.

00:56:28.000 Nick, don't worry about Nick for now.

00:56:31.000 Nick is married to the movement for now.

00:56:33.000 All right. 0.99

00:56:37.000 Nick is married to the race. 0.87

00:56:38.000 Nick is married to my white brothers, to the cause, the revolutionary struggle, right? 0.92

00:56:45.000 The Nazbol struggle. 0.66

00:56:48.000 So, Nick, why are you a Nazi? 0.61

00:56:52.000 I'm not a socialist.

00:56:52.000 I'm not a Nazi.

00:56:53.000 I'm not a national socialist.

00:56:55.000 Maybe you could call me a fascist.

00:56:57.000 I don't think that'd be totally accurate, but maybe you could call me that.

00:57:00.000 National socialist, you could not.

00:57:02.000 And you have to understand the difference between national socialism and fascism.

00:57:05.000 Many people don't. 1.00

00:57:07.000 Nick doesn't want a political woman.

00:57:08.000 That's, well, I don't know. 0.88

00:57:10.000 We'll see what happens.

00:57:10.000 We'll see what happens once I can provide for a family.

00:57:13.000 The dynamics will change.

00:57:15.000 How do you feel about bullying Tara McCarthy?

00:57:17.000 I love it.

00:57:18.000 I get such a rush. 1.00

00:57:19.000 I love to bully Tara McCarthy. 1.00

00:57:20.000 I want to bully Tara McCarthy right off the internet. 0.99

00:57:25.000 You know, Nick, when are you going to disavow degenerate buggery with traps? 1.00

00:57:31.000 How many times do I have to restate my position on the traps?

00:57:35.000 Nick, be nicer to James, please, okay? 1.00

00:57:37.000 I get James can be retarded. 1.00

00:57:38.000 But be nice.

00:57:39.000 It's very difficult because I've been told all my life I'm not a nice person.

00:57:43.000 I'm a kind person.

00:57:44.000 I'm a kind person, but I'm not generally a nice person.

00:57:47.000 I'm very frank.

00:57:48.000 I'm very straightforward.

00:57:49.000 And I guess the impulsivity lends itself to that as well.

00:57:52.000 I get a little bit autistic when people disagree with me about politics, you know, kind of like this people aren't agreeing with me, you know, triggered.

00:58:00.000 So I get a little pugnacious.

00:58:03.000 I get a little combative.

00:58:04.000 Things start to fly.

00:58:06.000 But I think James understands that.

00:58:08.000 That's kind of what adds to our dynamic.

00:58:10.000 I think he knows that.

00:58:13.000 Mick, unapologetic.

00:58:14.000 I will never apologize for bullying Tara McCarthy.

00:58:17.000 Every day I'm proven right. 1.00

00:58:18.000 The stupid shit that comes out of her mouth on a daily basis, she ought to be embarrassed. 1.00

00:58:23.000 Begbie, thanks for the work. 1.00

00:58:24.000 Happy to help.

00:58:25.000 Always good when you have future President Nealon on the show.

00:58:28.000 Yeah, and I think we'll be doing another show sometime soon.

00:58:32.000 He said he was interested in coming down to Chicago for a live one.

00:58:34.000 That'd be a lot of fun.

00:58:36.000 Matthew, honest opinion of Lauren Southern.

00:58:38.000 Well, you know, Lauren Southern is a civic nationalist, and so we're not in the same movement.

00:58:44.000 I know many people would like to believe that she is somehow helpful for us or something, but we have to draw the line in the sand.

00:58:53.000 She has to give us what we want in the sense that she can no longer straddle the line between getting the shekels and being alt light and getting everything that comes with it, and then at the same time have our allegiance or our respect.

00:59:07.000 And so, you know, we'll see.

00:59:08.000 I know Lauren Southern defended past actions, and Lauren Southern has repeatedly denied any kind of nationalism, any kind of solid basis for nationalism in North America.

00:59:17.000 That has to change, or else we're not on the same team.

00:59:20.000 You know, she gets played to all kinds of alt light type people.

00:59:23.000 She gets played to all kinds of alt light people.

00:59:25.000 People and she doesn't give any play to our guys.

00:59:27.000 That's gotta stop, but we'll see.

00:59:31.000 I don't know, I guess you need people that are intermediaries, but we just have to be very clear about who we are.

00:59:36.000 That's all.

00:59:37.000 I don't have a problem per se with Lauren Southern, but we just have to be clear about who we are, and people also have to be clear about who they are.

00:59:45.000 And that's fine.

00:59:45.000 We can disagree with people.

00:59:47.000 You know, I am in contact, I network with a lot of people that are not in our movement, that disagree with us on a lot of things, and that's okay.

00:59:55.000 But the masquerading, the deceit, The dishonesty, the disingenuousness.

00:59:59.000 That's the problem.

01:00:00.000 And I don't think she's any of those things, but I think a time will come when a line will be drawn. 0.99

01:00:10.000 Nick, do you think encouraging nuclear family will help the black community? 1.00

01:00:13.000 Yeah, yeah, I do. 1.00

01:00:15.000 I do.

01:00:16.000 And I think blacks thrived when they were conforming to European standards.

01:00:20.000 You know, the idea that other kinds of political orders would prevail and work in America is wrong.

01:00:26.000 People say the black community failed because of the welfare state.

01:00:30.000 Well, the welfare state happened at the same time as a couple of other bills that I can think of.

01:00:35.000 Rick M., Nick, thoughts on Billy Graham's legacy?

01:00:38.000 Do you think he did good for America?

01:00:44.000 I don't know.

01:00:46.000 I suppose he did because he's a Christian, but you know I'm a Catholic.

01:00:50.000 You know I'm a Catholic.

01:00:51.000 Billy Graham was the religious leader, correct?

01:00:53.000 I know he was the founder of Liberty University, right?

01:00:56.000 I believe I'm thinking of the right person.

01:00:58.000 Maybe I'm having a weird slip of the mind here.

01:01:00.000 If I'm thinking of the same person, then I suppose.

01:01:04.000 It's tough to say because, you know, I'm very hardline about Catholicism, and I tend to believe that what drove people away from the church is that it wasn't serious enough in the 20th century.

01:01:12.000 It wasn't hardline enough.

01:01:14.000 And evangelicism, Protestantism played a big part in that.

01:01:18.000 This idea that we could have megachurches telling people that if you pray every night on your knees, you're going to get millions of dollars and, you know, things will go well for you.

01:01:27.000 Was that helpful?

01:01:28.000 I don't know.

01:01:29.000 Finbar Manning, would you have Richard Spencer on Nationalist Review again?

01:01:34.000 Or this show?

01:01:35.000 You could redeem yourself.

01:01:39.000 I'm not sure what you mean by that.

01:01:42.000 I'm not sure what you mean by that.

01:01:43.000 I accomplished what I sought to accomplish the last time Richard Spencer was on.

01:01:46.000 And people that listened to the podcast knew what I meant, which is to say that there is no plan.

01:01:52.000 And look, that was my number one concern.

01:01:55.000 And Spencer proved that on our podcast.

01:01:57.000 We had him on the show.

01:01:58.000 And I said, Richard, you believe that no change will come in your lifetime.

01:02:03.000 What in 100 years makes our position winnable when we're in a minority, when we have no free speech, when we have no guns?

01:02:10.000 And he didn't have an answer.

01:02:12.000 He said in the same breath that South Africa should be a retreat. 0.60

01:02:16.000 It's impossible for them to win in South Africa where they are a minority, where they have no political power. 0.98

01:02:21.000 But then in the same breath, he said that in 100 years, we'll be better off for being in the same position as they are in South Africa. 0.93

01:02:27.000 He believes in a revolution.

01:02:29.000 I'm not on that train.

01:02:30.000 So I don't know.

01:02:32.000 We would have him on again, I think, in the future.

01:02:34.000 Maybe.

01:02:37.000 Hollow Hoax Enthusiast says When is Alsop starting his podcast?

01:02:40.000 He already started.

01:02:41.000 It's on Spreaker.

01:02:42.000 He released episode one on Tuesday on Spreaker.

01:02:47.000 Are you going to debate someone on Worski Live?

01:02:49.000 I don't know, maybe if they invite me on.

01:02:53.000 Nick, most of my family are Christians and believe Jews are God's chosen people. 0.98

01:02:58.000 This pushes me away from the church. 1.00

01:02:59.000 Are they right or wrong?

01:03:00.000 Please explain.

01:03:01.000 They're wrong.

01:03:02.000 They're wrong.

01:03:03.000 Read the New Testament.

01:03:03.000 It's pretty clear what happens.

01:03:05.000 Money lenders in the temple, the Pharisees, the religious leaders.

01:03:09.000 I mean, it's pretty clear what goes on in there.

01:03:11.000 Watch the documentary.

01:03:12.000 Do me a favor if you are wondering about Christian Zionists and Christians who believe that modern Judaism is the same as the Old Testament.

01:03:21.000 Watch the documentary Marching to Zion.

01:03:23.000 It's very good.

01:03:24.000 It's short.

01:03:25.000 It's well produced.

01:03:27.000 It's not hokey.

01:03:27.000 It's not wacky.

01:03:28.000 It's purely factual.

01:03:30.000 I think you'd learn a lot from it.

01:03:33.000 Why are people scared of flipping normies?

01:03:35.000 Can we really succeed without them?

01:03:36.000 You can't.

01:03:38.000 You can't.

01:03:40.000 Finbar Manning, just a little neg for the big guy, but I do think it would be good to podcast together again.

01:03:44.000 I think he's a very interesting guy.

01:03:46.000 When I criticize his ideology, people have this weird aversion to.

01:03:55.000 Intellectual differences in the movement. 0.99

01:03:57.000 Everybody perceives like the slightest difference in thought as a personal attack or causing drama or infighting or punching right, which is so stupid, you know? 0.99

01:04:08.000 Richard Spencer is a smart guy. 0.95

01:04:10.000 He's a very interesting guy, probably among the most interesting people in politics in a while.

01:04:15.000 I think that's undeniable.

01:04:16.000 He's an interesting character and he's very articulate, he's quick.

01:04:20.000 You know, Laura Loomer is articulate and quick as well.

01:04:22.000 And these are interesting people.

01:04:24.000 Richard Spencer and I, we had a good conversation.

01:04:27.000 It was argumentative, but at the end of the day, we both said it was productive.

01:04:30.000 It was a good dialectic.

01:04:31.000 It was useful.

01:04:32.000 And I think he understands that.

01:04:33.000 I think he's a smart guy.

01:04:35.000 And yeah, I think we can have more productive conversations like that.

01:04:40.000 And he's been pretty hospitable to me.

01:04:42.000 I think he's had a problem with me lately because maybe I've been a little bit antagonistic.

01:04:47.000 But he was very hospitable to me when I was over in D.C. and everything else.

01:04:51.000 And so we may have him on again. 0.83

01:04:54.000 Pirate Falagos, looking forward to your debate with Wolf of Wall Street Zionist. 0.69

01:04:59.000 Seems like a guy more interested in conducting in substance over format. 0.86

01:05:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:05.000 And that'll be a good one.

01:05:06.000 That'll be a good one.

01:05:07.000 Really going to push on this one.

01:05:09.000 You know, last one, we kind of took it, we played it a little bit softer.

01:05:12.000 We were trying to red pill the normies.

01:05:14.000 This one, we're going to go a little bit harder.

01:05:15.000 So it'll be very exciting on Monday when we debate Jacob Wool.

01:05:20.000 What is Alsup's podcast called?

01:05:22.000 I couldn't find it.

01:05:22.000 It's on the same Spreaker channel as Nationalist Review.

01:05:26.000 So it's on America First Media.

01:05:30.000 At work, I feel like I'm in India.

01:05:31.000 Your thoughts?

01:05:32.000 That's America 2020.

01:05:34.000 That's what's coming up, my friends. 0.57

01:05:35.000 2050, that's our new country now.

01:05:37.000 You're going to feel like you're in a different country. 0.54

01:05:41.000 Laxative says, disavowing a book is peak homosexuality, Nick. 1.00

01:05:44.000 I'm disavowing the contents of the book, which are retarded. 1.00

01:05:49.000 You read, you know, look at the Turner Diaries. 1.00

01:05:50.000 I don't know who could look at this.

01:05:52.000 People talk about this so much in this movement.

01:05:54.000 It just goes to show how unserious so many people are in the movement that they give any play to that.

01:06:00.000 It's just so absurd.

01:06:02.000 It really boggles the mind.

01:06:04.000 And the thesis of the book is that there will be some kind of a race war.

01:06:08.000 There will be a race war in which white people will take over Southwest California and acquire the nuclear arsenal that's at a military base in Southwest California. 0.66

01:06:19.000 And whites will flee from Southwest California as this enclave of white people, the state within the state, starts instituting mass executions and genocide. 0.83

01:06:28.000 The white people will flee, and that'll cause race war across the country. 0.88

01:06:32.000 And it basically culminates in. 0.64

01:06:34.000 It basically culminates in a nuclear war where the white state within a state in California nukes New York City and then Russia, and then there's a global nuclear war and they're using tactical nukes on everybody.

01:06:48.000 And it's just like, this is what a middle schooler would write. 0.75

01:06:51.000 This is what a middle schooler would write. 0.62

01:06:52.000 And it's fitting because middle schoolers buy into this nonsense. 0.85

01:06:55.000 High schoolers buy into this nonsense. 1.00

01:06:57.000 Impressionable youth are led into this by very stupid, manipulative people, and it's a shame. 1.00

01:07:02.000 I don't think I have to go into the reasons why that's ridiculous. 1.00

01:07:05.000 The U.S. government has been engaged in protracted urban warfare against an insurgency in Afghanistan for 17 years in terrain far more perilous than an American city.

01:07:16.000 And they don't have surveillance everywhere, and they don't have the infrastructure that they have here. 0.98

01:07:20.000 So the idea that any kind of Uprising would work in this country is so dumb. 0.98

01:07:27.000 I can't even begin to tell you. 0.99

01:07:28.000 Think about it.

01:07:29.000 Just think about it.

01:07:31.000 We've been in that war for 17 years in mountains and desert with a hostile population with no surveillance, basically no infrastructure, at least relative to the United States.

01:07:41.000 And you think you and your band of 1,000 people or 100 people are going to displace a trillion dollar army, a $10 trillion dollar army?

01:07:51.000 I don't think so.

01:07:54.000 Why does Nick have 500,000 subs?

01:07:56.000 It's a great question.

01:07:57.000 It's a great question.

01:07:58.000 I'm being throttled by the asterisks, right? 0.97

01:08:02.000 Thoughts on millennial woes saying he used to be gay. 0.99

01:08:06.000 It's no surprise. 1.00

01:08:06.000 I think anybody could look at him. 1.00

01:08:08.000 I think anybody could listen to him and probably, I think, get that vibe. 0.73

01:08:12.000 I think anybody that watches anything that he does or interacts with him or seen anything he's ever posted could say, yeah, he was probably gay at some point. 0.91

01:08:20.000 He probably was in a position where he was being sodomized in some cases. 0.75

01:08:26.000 So that wasn't really a surprise.

01:08:28.000 I don't know.

01:08:29.000 I mean, there's, I don't know. 1.00

01:08:33.000 Good old Millennial Lowe's. 1.00

01:08:34.000 I think that lends a lot of, it gives us an idea of why he interacted with me the way he did, why he was such a fag about the Millennial stream. 1.00

01:08:43.000 But that's Millennial Lowe's. 1.00

01:08:46.000 Look, he attacked me first. 1.00

01:08:47.000 He attacked me first.

01:08:49.000 I never go out of my way to attack people.

01:08:51.000 People attack me, and I hit them back.

01:08:54.000 And that's how it has to be.

01:08:55.000 You know, people want to talk to me about starting drama in the movement.

01:08:58.000 Don't start drama with me. 0.99

01:08:59.000 Don't start shit with me because I will go harder. 1.00

01:09:03.000 Than anybody else. 1.00

01:09:04.000 And that's what has to happen. 0.54

01:09:07.000 Seems just about as plausible as whites preventing communists from blah, Plus, you forget that we are still the majority in the armed forces. 0.91

01:09:17.000 And how many of those do you think you're going to be able to turn with this silly book? 0.75

01:09:22.000 Nick is on one tonight. 0.72

01:09:25.000 Monibas. 0.96

01:09:26.000 Yeah, it's true. 1.00

01:09:29.000 Who's worse, boomers or millennials? 0.61

01:09:30.000 That's a tough one. 1.00

01:09:32.000 That's a tough one. 0.71

01:09:33.000 I would have to say boomers only because boomers begot millennials. 0.97

01:09:36.000 You can almost.

01:09:37.000 You can almost absolve millennials on the basis that boomers created millennials.

01:09:42.000 And therefore, can you blame millennials?

01:09:44.000 Totally?

01:09:45.000 I don't know.

01:09:46.000 Of course you can.

01:09:47.000 And I do. 0.98

01:09:48.000 But given that the genesis of millennials is boomers and all the crimes boomers have committed, boomers are worse. 0.84

01:09:56.000 Are you a fourth generation Holocaust survivor? 0.80

01:09:58.000 Yes.

01:09:59.000 Yes.

01:10:01.000 Yeah, as an Irishman, as an Italian, as a Mexican, I am a fourth generation Holocaust survivor.

01:10:08.000 I'm a fifth generation Holocaust survivor.

01:10:12.000 Feel bad for me.

01:10:13.000 I have Indian, I have Ghanaian relatives.

01:10:15.000 I have Indian relatives.

01:10:18.000 Soy is actually good for you. 1.00

01:10:20.000 Look how it totally doesn't make you look like a lesbian. 1.00

01:10:23.000 Right? 1.00

01:10:25.000 Oh, God. 0.99

01:10:25.000 What a dummy. 0.99

01:10:27.000 Dissident right with the double shekel. 1.00

01:10:28.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:10:30.000 Nick, if you had to live in the past, which era would you choose?

01:10:33.000 That's a tough one.

01:10:34.000 That's a tough one.

01:10:36.000 The 1950s, of course.

01:10:37.000 The 1950s would be a hoot and a holler.

01:10:41.000 The 1950s or the 60s.

01:10:42.000 I don't know.

01:10:43.000 Maybe even earlier.

01:10:44.000 Maybe even like the 1890s, like at the Gilded Age. 0.99

01:10:47.000 That would be a cool time to live.

01:10:49.000 Or the 1900s, turn of the century, pretty cool aesthetic.

01:10:52.000 I guess as long as you're in the city.

01:10:56.000 Nick, why are boomers and millennials so anti God?

01:11:00.000 That's a good question.

01:11:02.000 I think what tends to happen in a society is that when the temporal world becomes comfortable, when the temporal world has wonders and humanism seems more viable, I think there's almost a natural aversion to God.

01:11:17.000 Because if you imagine that God appeals to people who are suffering and all of that, and people, when they're in the 60s, boomers, have material abundance, they have wealth like they couldn't imagine, technology like they couldn't imagine, music, and all kinds of things.

01:11:34.000 Things are falling out of the sky.

01:11:36.000 Is there really an existential need for God? 0.83

01:11:40.000 I'm talking about in that context, in the perspective of the boomer. 0.85

01:11:43.000 If these are young people, Who see what's going on with the revolutions in the world, and they're all, you know, they have money and they're in this great country, and for the first time, they have something called recreation and leisure.

01:11:56.000 And it seems like man may be just fine.

01:12:00.000 I think it's difficult to understand sacrifice.

01:12:03.000 But when you see the suffering in the world, when you see the pain, when you see the limits of our existence, as Generation Z is learning, we're paying the price for it, then you start to look elsewhere.

01:12:13.000 It's always easier to be an atheist when you've got everything going on.

01:12:18.000 And I think that's a big part of it.

01:12:18.000 For you.

01:12:19.000 Millennials, too.

01:12:20.000 Similar story there.

01:12:23.000 And let's see.

01:12:24.000 We'll take a couple more.

01:12:25.000 We'll take a super chat and a couple more live chats here.

01:12:28.000 Loco Murray, Nick, you should try to make this show a little newbie friendly.

01:12:31.000 I try to send normies to your show.

01:12:33.000 Well, you know, we have to pander to both.

01:12:36.000 If I'm not totally.

01:12:37.000 If I don't go a little bit harder, I get killed from my base.

01:12:41.000 If I don't go a little bit soft, people say, you know, you're not really turning normies onto it.

01:12:45.000 I think I walked the line pretty well.

01:12:47.000 Some days it's.

01:12:49.000 Hard.

01:12:49.000 Some days it's less hard.

01:12:50.000 And that's kind of the way you do it.

01:12:52.000 You know, for example, I was never on board with everything Milo said when I was in Army.

01:12:56.000 I was never on board with everything Gavin McGinnis said.

01:12:59.000 And you agree with some things and you don't agree with other things, but people come around eventually.

01:13:03.000 It's important that you don't disguise what you really are.

01:13:07.000 And that's a telling difference between aesthetics and kind of tactics in the sense that when I was talking about optics, I wasn't saying lie about your position.

01:13:18.000 I was saying.

01:13:19.000 Think about how you're messaging your position.

01:13:21.000 I wasn't saying lie and say it's not about race, it's about culture, and there's nothing going on with internationalism, it's just Democrats.

01:13:29.000 I was saying be careful how you say that.

01:13:31.000 Say it in a way that is convincing, say it in a way that people can wrap their heads around it.

01:13:36.000 Walk people into it.

01:13:37.000 If you're doing a public event, maybe make it look like it's something else, but actually the message is much more overt than the imaging, which is all the difference in the world than disguising who you are and, you know.

01:13:50.000 Saying you're something you're not or hiding your true feelings because I think people will come around to the truth.

01:13:54.000 The truth will get out and we'll be here waiting to embrace people. 0.59

01:13:58.000 And dissident right with the three shekels.

01:14:00.000 Thank you, my friend. 0.99

01:14:02.000 Good fella there.

01:14:03.000 Dominic Liberator, the largest lynching in the U.S. was against Italian immigrants in 1891. 1.00

01:14:08.000 I'm going to use that one next time. 0.98

01:14:10.000 There was even a black American in the crowd. 1.00

01:14:12.000 Get your reparations. 0.99

01:14:13.000 I better have my damn reparations. 1.00

01:14:17.000 Italians getting lynched. 1.00

01:14:18.000 That means I was lynched.

01:14:20.000 I was lynched.

01:14:21.000 I'm a fourth generation lynching survivor.

01:14:25.000 Right?

01:14:26.000 And I hate it.

01:14:27.000 I'm 1% African according to Ancestry or 23andMe.

01:14:31.000 I'm 1% African. 0.99

01:14:32.000 So that means I can say the N word. 0.95

01:14:34.000 And that means I'm entitled to reparations, right? 0.75

01:14:37.000 Joking, of course.

01:14:41.000 What should I read slash watch of Mosley?

01:14:44.000 You could read 100 questions about fascism answered.

01:14:46.000 You could read The Alternative.

01:14:48.000 There's really a good series of books, I forget the publisher, but there's a really good series of those books.

01:14:52.000 If you start looking into that on Amazon, one publisher has published a lot of his writings.

01:14:57.000 Some are short and good introductions, some are a little bit longer.

01:15:00.000 Even if you just look into his speeches, it's kind of hard to find long form speeches of his, but they're out there.

01:15:05.000 There's a lot of just good clips that summarize his general ideas and things.

01:15:10.000 Hope that helps.

01:15:11.000 He also wrote a really good biography called My Life, which is critically acclaimed, one of the best books on politics, even by normies' standards.

01:15:23.000 Nick, what were your results on 23andMe?

01:15:25.000 79% European, 15% Native American, 2% Middle Eastern, 1% African, regrettably, and I think like 1% Asian. 0.98

01:15:34.000 And I doubt the legitimacy of those last ones. 0.95

01:15:38.000 So it's probably something like 80% European, 15% Asian. 0.95

01:15:42.000 Native American, of course, because I'm Mexican, and the last 5% is probably, I don't know, going really far back because there's no blacks in the immediate, like going way, way back as far as my parents and grandparents know. 0.56

01:15:57.000 So those are my results.

01:15:59.000 And people say, oh, he says he's Mexican to get points.

01:16:01.000 No, I say I'm Mexican because my ancestors came from Mexico.

01:16:04.000 Maybe down the line, and certainly there were Castizos that came in the European DNA, there was Iberian DNA.

01:16:10.000 So they did ultimately come from Spain, but.

01:16:13.000 But the immigrants came from Mexico in the last century. 0.98

01:16:16.000 And it's funny because the people who say the most about being proud of who you are then try and say, yo, you're Spanish or you're this and you're that. 0.88

01:16:23.000 There's Spanish blood in there, but I mean, it's the Mexican nationality. 0.99

01:16:29.000 Nick, the mods keep letting Italians stay in the chat. 1.00

01:16:32.000 Rough. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Brutal neck. 1.00

01:16:34.000 I would remind you that Italians are responsible for the Roman Empire, the Renaissance, the Catholic Church, the invention of fascism, Evola. 1.00

01:16:43.000 So. 0.98

01:16:45.000 And, uh, all right.

01:16:46.000 I think, I think we're going to call it a night.

01:16:48.000 I'm, I'm a tired, I'm a tired boy.

01:16:51.000 I got to go polish off the rest of that Domino's pizza, the Nick.

01:16:54.000 But that's going to do it for us tonight.

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01:16:59.000 It was a pretty nice narrative, pretty solid narrative from Monday to Friday, seeing how the DACA thing formed and how I was vindicated every day.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - January 12, 2018

The Coming Government Shutdown and Why Dems Own it | America First Ep. 85

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