America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - The Cutlery Coalition feat. Styx | America First Ep. 153

00:00:05.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:06.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:08.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:09.000 We have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:12.000 My friend Styx Hexenhammer is joining us in about a half hour for a great discussion about politics, the news of the day, his bid for governorship.

00:00:23.000 It should be a fun episode.

00:00:25.000 This will be technically like our usual casual Friday episode.

00:00:31.000 Without the casual, I can't slack.

00:00:34.000 But it's going to be sort of a fun episode because I won't be here tomorrow.

00:00:37.000 I'll be at American Renaissance.

00:00:39.000 So.

00:00:40.000 It should be a pretty chill stream today.

00:00:42.000 We're talking about the news, and then we're going to have a fun guest, fun little guest appearance with a good friend.

00:00:49.000 And so it should be a good time.

00:00:50.000 I got to tell you, I'm having a bit of a rough day, haven't slept.

00:00:54.000 The technology is giving me all kinds of problems.

00:00:57.000 Last night, as you know, we did our great Kanye West episode, and immediately after it ends, they slap on some kind of a copyright restriction.

00:01:07.000 So the video's blocked for like seven hours.

00:01:10.000 You know, just my luck.

00:01:12.000 I put together a great esoteric show and they slap a block on it.

00:01:17.000 Usually that doesn't happen.

00:01:18.000 Usually they let me edit out the song or whatever.

00:01:22.000 And as I played a Kanye West song, that's why they slapped on the copyright.

00:01:27.000 Usually they let me get away with it so that I can edit the song out and then we're okay as long as I don't monetize it.

00:01:32.000 But I guess with Kanye, it's a bigger deal.

00:01:35.000 Then I get into the Streamlabs.

00:01:36.000 Like every time I open up my broadcasting server, they're doing an update.

00:01:41.000 What is going on with.

00:01:43.000 Computers, why all the updates all the time?

00:01:45.000 I bring up the OBS to broadcast the show every day.

00:01:50.000 I expect it to just open up, ready to go.

00:01:53.000 And it's downloading Streamlabs version 8, whatever, whatever.

00:01:59.000 And then this new thing with the camera, and it's such a pain.

00:02:03.000 But we're hanging in there together, we're hanging in.

00:02:06.000 So it's going to be a great show.

00:02:08.000 There's a lot going on in the world.

00:02:10.000 We're back to a normal episode today, we're back to normal news, current events.

00:02:16.000 You know, yesterday we had to hang out a little bit in a weird place.

00:02:19.000 We had to hang out and talk about the Dharmic, what was it?

00:02:24.000 I don't even remember what it's called, yoga and Shanti and all of that, some very esoteric Eastern philosophy.

00:02:31.000 So we had to get into that yesterday with Kanye West, some spiritual, some immaterial content.

00:02:38.000 But we're back to it today, the regular stuff.

00:02:40.000 We're talking about Mike Pompeo, who was confirmed as Secretary of State this afternoon.

00:02:45.000 We're talking about the North Korea Summit, which is happening.

00:02:49.000 As we speak right now between North and South Korea.

00:02:53.000 And also, before we get into the big news, I got to say, this story just keeps getting better.

00:02:59.000 This other story that's been, I guess, progressing over the past couple of months. 0.99

00:03:03.000 It comes out today because Diamond and Silk, these are two black women who are media personalities. 0.88

00:03:11.000 They were big during the election, very pro Trump.

00:03:14.000 I think they opened for him at a rally or two.

00:03:17.000 And so they're big on Facebook, they're big on YouTube.

00:03:20.000 And they're right now in some kind of congressional testimony because Facebook took them down for some reason.

00:03:27.000 They alleged, I don't know, some phony like hate crime allegation or hate speech allegation.

00:03:33.000 I haven't been following it too closely, but because they're giving some kind of a congressional testimony about Facebook, some records came to light recently about funds they've received from candidates, from candidates running for office.

00:03:47.000 And I have to laugh because it just keeps getting better and better and better.

00:03:51.000 I promise I won't spend too much time because.

00:03:54.000 How much time should we be spending on this?

00:03:56.000 But I have to, it's so funny. 0.83

00:03:59.000 We find out that these two based black conservatives, MAGA, you know, all that, who do they get $7,000 from? 0.73

00:04:09.000 They get two payments of $3,500 for advertising to make a political commercial.

00:04:15.000 Paul Nealon.

00:04:16.000 And I have to laugh because, you know, how long on Gab have we had the most aggressive white nationalists on Gab saying nasty stuff, posting rude memes? 0.88

00:04:28.000 They dox Ricky Vaughn, they do all this crazy stuff. 0.83

00:04:32.000 And you know, look, white nationalism, call it whatever you want nationalism, ethnic nationalism. 0.78

00:04:36.000 We're a little bit crooked here today.

00:04:39.000 There's like some bubbles here on the thing.

00:04:41.000 Whatever you want to call it, some very extreme rhetoric on Gab over the top.

00:04:46.000 Towards the end, before he got banned from Gab, Paul Nealon positioned himself as, you know, il duce. 0.64

00:04:54.000 He's the new leader of the white revolution in America, right? 0.65

00:04:57.000 And taking himself very seriously.

00:04:59.000 He's very serious, he's very extreme.

00:05:02.000 You know, Commander Cantwell's right behind him as well, with all the left side of the bell curve people.

00:05:08.000 And we find out after, you know, months and months of this that no less than, what, $50,000 has gone to Diamond and Silk, the based black conservatives, his Hispanic wife, and the Jewish campaign manager.

00:05:25.000 And not like there's anything wrong with that, but, you know, you understand his message is, well, it's a very extreme.

00:05:32.000 It's a very particular thing, right?

00:05:35.000 And his followers have a very specific idea of him and about different groups of people.

00:05:40.000 And it's just wild to me, wild to me what these people would think if they weren't deluding themselves that all the money they've been handing over, and by the way, all of that money, you can track that using a Freedom of Information Act request, or just by looking into campaign records.

00:05:55.000 If you've given up to a certain amount of money, you can get doxxed for that.

00:05:59.000 But all these people, all these extremists, you know, Hill, Neil, and Neil, and whatever, you know, handing over their money.

00:06:06.000 And it's getting rerouted to people like that.

00:06:08.000 I just think that's hilarious to me.

00:06:10.000 It's just very comical.

00:06:11.000 But don't want to spend too much time on that.

00:06:13.000 The big story of the day is Mike Pompeo, who got confirmed as Secretary of State.

00:06:19.000 And this was actually after a pretty lengthy confirmation process.

00:06:23.000 It's been jammed up in Congress forever.

00:06:27.000 And I think the statistic they've been putting out, the White House has been putting out, is that if the Congress were to spend the same amount of time as they have been, the average amount of time that they have been, On the rest of Donald Trump's political appointees, which are cabinet positions, other bureaucratic positions, it would take nine years to fill all those positions because of how long it takes.

00:06:51.000 So, Mike Pompeo, he got tapped to be the new Secretary of State weeks and weeks and weeks ago, but because the Democrats are obstructing the process in the Senate and the Congress, they've been having a lot of difficulty getting him through.

00:07:03.000 They finally did today with 57 votes.

00:07:07.000 They got all the Republicans and six Democrats to vote on it.

00:07:11.000 And I don't even think one of the pieces of it, of course, is, or the predominant thing is that Mike Pompeo is the new Secretary of State.

00:07:19.000 And we'll get into what that means.

00:07:20.000 But something that is interesting about it is you have to look at who the Democrats were who voted for this confirmation.

00:07:27.000 I'll give you two examples.

00:07:28.000 You had Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp.

00:07:32.000 Joe Manchin is the Democratic senator from West Virginia, Heitkamp is a Democratic senator from North Dakota.

00:07:39.000 And these are two Democrats in very, very red states, two Democrats who are up for.

00:07:45.000 Re election in 2018.

00:07:47.000 Heidi Heidkamp, in particular, I don't think Joe Manchin is actually up for re election.

00:07:52.000 I don't think he's up for re election.

00:07:53.000 I think he's the next cycle. 0.80

00:07:54.000 But Heidi Heidkamp from North Dakota, she is up for reelection. 0.99

00:07:58.000 She's a Democrat in North Dakota, which is obviously a solid red state, very conservative.

00:08:04.000 It's in that Northwest part of the country where it just goes almost completely red for the past 25, 30 years or so.

00:08:12.000 And actually, there are some discrepancies there with the Senate, which we talked about in the 2018 Election HQ podcast last week.

00:08:20.000 We did a whole show about Heidi Heidkamp in North Dakota.

00:08:23.000 Today, we did another show which is up about Montana, but this is beside the point.

00:08:28.000 It's interesting to note that these Democrats, these very conservative Democrats in very conservative states, broke from the party lines to vote for Donald Trump's appointee.

00:08:40.000 I think this is a very good sign because as you're seeing us get closer to the 2018 election, and people talk about the blue wave, the blue wave, it's coming.

00:08:50.000 You know, the Democrats are going to take over the Congress and maybe they have a shot at the Senate, who knows?

00:08:55.000 And look at the polling and Trump's approval and all the rest.

00:08:58.000 As we get closer, it looks like Democratic senators are becoming more cooperative with.

00:09:02.000 President Trump.

00:09:03.000 I think that actually spells trouble for a lot of them.

00:09:05.000 I think that signals maybe an opening window of opportunity here to pass through legislation.

00:09:11.000 If somebody like Heidi Heidkamp knows that in 2018 she's going to have to answer for a vote about immigration or a vote about trade or a vote about infrastructure, and she votes along party lines as opposed to what her constituents would value, which would be much more conservative, I think it's worth asking will we be able to see an opportunity for better legislation to be passed?

00:09:33.000 Between now and the election, you'd think it would almost be counterintuitive.

00:09:37.000 You'd think it'd be the opposite, that Democrats would take a much harder line.

00:09:40.000 But you see that Democrats that are up for election in these deep red conservative states that Trump won in 2016, where they have maybe a conservative governor, a conservative state legislature, I think you'll see a lot of pressure for them to break away from the party ranks.

00:09:55.000 And this is something we talked about extensively for the DACA negotiation.

00:10:00.000 We talked about this at length that you would have these two polls in the Democratic Party of the left wing ideologues.

00:10:07.000 Who say we can never give in to Trump, we're resisting, and we have to be the most extreme, and the pragmatists in the party, particularly the people that are up for re election, who are saying, you know, this is great and all, and we're having a great time being the resistors, but we're not going to have a job in November if we have to answer for this kind of stuff, if we have to answer for, for example, shutting down the government to defend illegal immigrants, as they did in January.

00:10:34.000 And so I think this is starting to manifest, and it remains to be seen.

00:10:38.000 To what extent that will be a problem for the Democrats, to what extent this will tear them apart.

00:10:43.000 But I think there's a lot of potential for Trump to exploit that.

00:10:46.000 I think you're already seeing him do that.

00:10:49.000 He's already approached Heidkamp in particular and asked her to switch parties two times.

00:10:53.000 So I think he understands it pretty intuitively.

00:10:56.000 So that's the one interesting thing.

00:10:58.000 I happen to be reading about the Secretary of State confirmation process, and you see that these very conservative Democrats and conservative states broke with their party ranks to go.

00:11:09.000 And confirm Pompeo, which I think is a very good sign.

00:11:12.000 But then, of course, you have Mr. Mike Pompeo, who is the former CIA director.

00:11:17.000 And we talked about it a little bit.

00:11:19.000 This was the first real sign that Trump was changing the administration, either to signal or in preparation.

00:11:27.000 You know, there's two kind of competing theories here where first you had him get rid of Rex Tillerson and replace him with Pompeo.

00:11:34.000 And Pompeo is a very hawkish kind of a guy.

00:11:36.000 He's talked in the past about how he thinks we should bomb.

00:11:39.000 Iran to get rid of their nuclear program, how we should go to war with North Korea.

00:11:44.000 So, very hawkish pick, one that's uncharacteristic for somebody like President Trump.

00:11:49.000 And then you had John Bolton in at the U.S. Security Council or the National Security Council for the United States.

00:11:57.000 And so Mike Pompeo, we talked about this a while ago.

00:12:00.000 He was really that first step in what's going on here.

00:12:04.000 Is Trump building a war cabinet because he's going to war?

00:12:07.000 Or is Trump building a war cabinet so he could communicate something to North Korea?

00:12:12.000 And these are the two competing schools of thought. 0.85

00:12:14.000 I think a lot of more pessimistic people, people who tend to think that Trump is either compromised, Or easily influenced or dumb, they tend to think that he's building a war cabinet.

00:12:24.000 People have gotten to him and he's getting ready to go all out.

00:12:27.000 And people like myself, who have a little bit more faith, who trust in the process, we believe that he's putting together Pompeo, Bolton, the one who just took over, CIA director, the woman from Thailand, was it, that she was doing torture in Myanmar or Thailand, I forget, that they're putting together this kind of a cabinet as a signal so that if they're going to make a threat or some kind of a promise to North, Korea about the use of military force,

00:12:54.000 it would carry a little bit more weight if there were people who actually believe this kind of hawkish policy stuff.

00:13:01.000 So we see Pompeo get in, and I have to say, we look at the picture that came out today of him meeting with Kim Jong Un.

00:13:08.000 It was something that was pretty, I have to say, when it came out like a couple of weeks ago, it was Shinzo Abe who was visiting the president, and they were having just kind of a casual meeting, and it came out during a talk with the press.

00:13:22.000 That the United States and North Korea were in talks.

00:13:25.000 They were communicating at the very highest levels.

00:13:28.000 And that just kind of slipped under the radar.

00:13:30.000 People said, oh, does that mean Trump met with Kim Jong Un or talked to him?

00:13:33.000 Does that just mean the government?

00:13:35.000 And then it came out in a very muted fashion, like 12 hours later.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, actually, Mike Pompeo met face to face with Kim Jong Un in North Korea.

00:13:43.000 And it was hilarious because it was such a muted announcement.

00:13:46.000 It wasn't like a presidential announcement, it just kind of came out, yeah, you know, that also happened.

00:13:52.000 And I think people, maybe they didn't really understand the gravity of it until they saw this picture of Pompeo shaking hands with Kim Jong un.

00:13:59.000 It just goes to show how far we've come from little rocket man, ICBMs flying over Japan and flying into the ocean, to CIA directors shaking hands with him.

00:14:10.000 I also think that tells us something about why we have Pompeo in the first place.

00:14:15.000 Doesn't that tell you something that Pompeo was in the CIA?

00:14:18.000 The CIA would be dealing with North Korea as opposed to maybe the State Department.

00:14:22.000 He meets with him personally.

00:14:24.000 Now he's a Secretary of State.

00:14:25.000 He's this hawkish.

00:14:26.000 Kind of a person.

00:14:28.000 I think you put all these pieces together and you start to understand maybe it's not so much about we're building a war cabinet.

00:14:34.000 Maybe Pompeo was the head of the CIA, so he was uniquely afforded the kind of opportunity to meet with Kim Jong un.

00:14:42.000 He established a personal rapport.

00:14:44.000 Because he was aggressive, it sends a different message to send him, and now to have him as Secretary of State.

00:14:50.000 I think it's a much more viable explanation after we see a photograph like that, after he becomes confirmed as Secretary of State.

00:14:59.000 That it's not a war cabinet, it's probably more likely it's a signal.

00:15:02.000 But he becomes Secretary of State at a crucial moment now as we stare down the barrel of the ICBMs in North Korea as we attempt to make some kind of a deal.

00:15:13.000 The meeting with Trump and Kim Jong un has been narrowed down to, I think, three different locations and four possible dates that it could happen.

00:15:22.000 And they say that'll happen in May or early June.

00:15:25.000 It would have to happen in May because not very many days left in April, but late May or early June.

00:15:32.000 But today, the big meeting is happening between South Korea and North Korea.

00:15:36.000 This is the first time in how many years?

00:15:39.000 11 years that there's been a summit between the North and South Korean leaders.

00:15:44.000 This is actually the first time that a North Korean leader has gone into South Korea.

00:15:47.000 They're holding this summit in one of the peace villages, or what do they call it?

00:15:52.000 One of the truce villages along the demilitarized zone, which is actually on the South Korean side.

00:15:58.000 So they'll be meeting there.

00:15:59.000 It's the first time the leader of North Korea has gone into South Korea.

00:16:03.000 And this is the first time such a meeting has happened since 2007.

00:16:06.000 The one before that was 2000.

00:16:08.000 It's only happened three times in history.

00:16:09.000 This is the third time in history that you've had North and South meeting together.

00:16:14.000 And we're going to have to keep a very close eye on what happens.

00:16:16.000 We'll be doing the episode of World Report on Tuesday.

00:16:20.000 About the outcome of this meeting, and we'll spend a lot of time really going into depth because this meeting and the results of it will set the tone for the meeting between Kim Jong Un and President Trump.

00:16:31.000 In other words, we've seen a lot of promises from Kim Jong Un, we've seen a lot of rumors about what could happen, what's maybe in the works.

00:16:40.000 North Korea may be committing to denuclearization, they might be preparing a statement about ending the war.

00:16:47.000 Who really knows?

00:16:48.000 It's a lot of rumors, it's a lot of talk.

00:16:50.000 And even North Korea is saying they would cease their nuclear and missile testing.

00:16:54.000 You know, I don't know.

00:16:55.000 Is that a huge concession?

00:16:56.000 Some say it is.

00:16:58.000 And then the latest development was that North Korea said they're shutting down one of their nuclear sites.

00:17:04.000 And then it was found out this morning that actually the nuclear site that they said we're shutting down because we've accomplished our mission and we want to make peace with the West actually that site was shut down because it collapsed because the mountain that it was built on completely collapsed in on it.

00:17:20.000 And actually they're having to monitor for radioactive leakage because it was such a geological catastrophe.

00:17:27.000 So It's tough to say where we stand right now until we see what comes out of this negotiation in a very concrete fashion.

00:17:36.000 We've seen North Korea make some effort in diplomacy with South Korea because of the Olympics.

00:17:43.000 We saw Kim Jong un's sister go down to South Korea for the Olympics, and that was a great thing.

00:17:48.000 And you had the meeting announced, but it's all in flux.

00:17:52.000 It's all basically in the air until we see what they are actually going to commit to.

00:17:56.000 And those are the big things to look out for.

00:17:58.000 Will they end the war?

00:17:59.000 That's been going on since 1950.

00:18:01.000 What are North Korea's demands?

00:18:04.000 Are they committed to denuclearization or do they want synchronicity and reciprocity, meaning they want that they get rid of their arsenal in increments and at the same time, in synchronization, the United States is reciprocating by getting rid of sanctions, getting rid of various things?

00:18:04.000 Do they have any?

00:18:23.000 Will they ask that the United States remove their 28,500 troops in South Korea?

00:18:28.000 They've said they're not going to expect that, but who knows what comes of it.

00:18:33.000 This is a very historic moment.

00:18:35.000 Somebody like Kim Jong un, we haven't seen him sit down with a world leader like this with the West.

00:18:41.000 He's been much more isolated, if it's even possible, than his predecessors in North Korea.

00:18:45.000 So all eyes are on the meeting tonight.

00:18:48.000 It should be an interesting thing.

00:18:49.000 And we'll be watching it on this show.

00:18:51.000 We'll probably talk about it on Monday.

00:18:53.000 And we'll be talking about it on World Report.

00:18:55.000 But it's fascinating to see just how far we've come with this.

00:18:58.000 And we did a big show about that on Tuesday for World Report.

00:19:02.000 We did the timeline from the time Trump got inaugurated all the way up and through.

00:19:07.000 Where we are today.

00:19:09.000 And really, I think people forget.

00:19:10.000 People have such a short attention span.

00:19:12.000 People forget just how bad it was in such a short amount of time, right?

00:19:18.000 How bad it was in November.

00:19:19.000 What was that, five months ago?

00:19:21.000 That North Korea was testing an ICBM with a hydrogen warhead, a hydrogen bomb warhead on top of it.

00:19:28.000 They were shooting missiles over Japan.

00:19:30.000 We were on the brink of war.

00:19:32.000 We were doing three carrier strike group drills in the Pacific.

00:19:37.000 And now here we are five months later, and it's sort of.

00:19:39.000 Inexplicable how this happened because it went from big nuclear tests as late as like November 28th, November 27th, to January 1st, Kim Jong un taking the initiative, making this overture to the United States.

00:19:55.000 And I think there are two ways to look at that and two ways to look at this meeting.

00:20:00.000 Either North Korea is negotiating from a position of strength, they've achieved their nuclear arsenal, they've built an ICBM that can hit the continental United States, they've achieved miniaturization of the warheads, they've successfully developed Nuclear warheads. 0.54

00:20:16.000 And they've basically decided okay, we have a sufficient capability that now we can exercise some leverage.

00:20:21.000 Either that means now we can trade this in for economic benefits, we can stall so we can improve our technology more, we can see how far we can get with this by giving the United States the runaround.

00:20:33.000 Either they're negotiating from that position of strength that we've reached a predetermined endpoint and now we're ready to make do with it, or the alternative goes well, and the first theory says, and that's why they made the initiative.

00:20:46.000 The alternative theory is that the sanctions are working because China has intervened and they're going really hard, and the United States has gone harder than they ever before.

00:20:55.000 Maybe there was some kind of a secret threat that was made militarily, but for some reason we've broken the back of North Korea and they're coming to negotiate with us out of weakness because sanctions are crippling them or they're under the gun of a United States military threat, and now they've basically been forced to make concessions.

00:21:15.000 And whether or not, we don't know yet which explanation is true.

00:21:19.000 We don't know why North Korea.

00:21:21.000 Korea has decided to take the initiative and come to us, depending on which it is, we'll see very different things from North Korea.

00:21:28.000 If they make these big demands about synchronicity, about reciprocity, about a grand bargain, that kind of a thing, if they're giving us the runaround, it's probably that they've reached a predetermined endpoint or they're stalling. 0.72

00:21:43.000 If, however, they're going to give the big concessions they've been talking about and it turns into maybe a very successful thing in a short period of time, It probably means that the sanctions have worked.

00:21:53.000 And either way, it's going to have profound implications, of course, on Iran, on other countries we're dealing with.

00:22:00.000 We just talked about Iran on Tuesday because the French president was here.

00:22:04.000 Merkel, the German chancellor, comes to the United States on Friday.

00:22:08.000 And now they're already moving into talks about North Korea's basically calmed down.

00:22:13.000 So let's talk about Iran. 0.74

00:22:14.000 Now, if we have broken the back of North Korea purely with economic means and with threats and with displays of military force, This carries a pretty significant precedent for Iran. 0.88

00:22:26.000 If we're able to break North Korea with sanctions, presumably we could have some kind of leverage in saying, look, this is what we did to North Korea. 0.86

00:22:34.000 We broke them with sanctions, we broke them with military threats, and let's just not beat around the bush. 0.79

00:22:39.000 We could do the same to you. 0.86

00:22:41.000 And that's how we'll contain your nuclear program. 0.80

00:22:44.000 Or, conversely, if North Korea is negotiating from a position of strength, then Iran gets the idea that, hey, wait a minute, we should maybe try that. 0.64

00:22:52.000 Even if the United States goes all out.

00:22:55.000 With sanctions, with strikes, with drills, they could do everything right up until the brink of war.

00:23:02.000 And a country like North Korea, which is poor and starving, could still give them a runaround, can still mess with them.

00:23:09.000 Then we could probably do that too, probably do it much more effectively because we're much closer with Russia, much closer with China, much closer with regional countries.

00:23:18.000 And that would be a big problem for the United States.

00:23:20.000 We would have to really demonstrate credibility if that were the case.

00:23:25.000 And this gets to the fundamental point of the Trump doctrine, which is you make A few displays of military force, you do these kinds of sanctions, and you set a precedent.

00:23:34.000 And it's much cheaper to set a precedent in that way than it is to actually go in and disarm a country.

00:23:42.000 It's much cheaper to do a missile strike, drop a Moab, do these economic sanctions with trade war, getting China to participate in the sanctions regime because of the threat of trade war.

00:23:53.000 It's much cheaper to do that and get North Korea to reluctantly agree over the course of a protracted negotiation to give up their arms than it is for us to go in and invade and take them.

00:24:05.000 That's a big war, that's a big commitment.

00:24:07.000 So.

00:24:08.000 That is the Trump doctrine.

00:24:09.000 But that's North Korea.

00:24:11.000 That's your news of the day on current events.

00:24:13.000 We left out a big current event.

00:24:15.000 I saved it for Sticks because he wanted to talk about this because it's so current.

00:24:20.000 But obviously, the Bill Cosby situation has just unraveled, and we'll be bringing on Sticks to talk about that in a moment.

00:24:27.000 I'm going to fire up our Google Hangouts, and we should be bringing him in.

00:24:32.000 The problem I've been having with the Google Hangouts is that.

00:24:38.000 When I use my OBS, you'll notice it goes from the opening screen into the live screen.

00:24:44.000 And when it goes from opening to live, for whatever reason, because of these fantastic updates that I have to do every 30 seconds update this, update that, and it's getting worse.

00:24:53.000 It goes from the opening screen to this, and the camera goes from off to on, whereas before it was always on.

00:24:58.000 What happens now is if I set up the.

00:25:00.000 This is all very interesting, I'm sure.

00:25:01.000 If you set up the Google Hangouts beforehand, the camera is inputted into that, and then when I turn on the show, the camera's already redirected to the Hangouts, and it's going.

00:25:12.000 To the other person on the call.

00:25:13.000 So, really interesting stuff.

00:25:16.000 That's why we have to set it up now.

00:25:18.000 So, I just put up the Google Hangouts.

00:25:20.000 I'm sending him the link right now.

00:25:23.000 And we'll bring in our friend Styx.

00:25:26.000 Let me get my earpiece all fired up.

00:25:29.000 I hope it doesn't give me the blues like last time, where it's hurting.

00:25:32.000 Towards the end, it was hurting bad.

00:25:36.000 So, let's see.

00:25:37.000 Let's get this little muchacho fired up.

00:25:42.000 Okay, whoops, what's going on there?

00:25:45.000 All right, you get my audio set up, and we should be rock and roll.

00:25:50.000 You know, you talk about boomer tech, people give me a really hard time for boomer tech, but I put together that interesting hello, hello.

00:25:57.000 It looks like he's here with us.

00:25:59.000 Hello, Mr. Sticks.

00:26:01.000 Hi, can you hear me?

00:26:02.000 Yes, yes, and you are going through.

00:26:04.000 Let me just put your screen up on my screen, and we, yeah, if you want it to be audio only, that's fine too, since it, uh, you're having video problems, you said.

00:26:15.000 No, no, no, it's, uh, It's complicated just with my camera, but I can get you on the screen right now.

00:26:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:26:22.000 Let me just pull it up right here.

00:26:24.000 I'm trying to move this slightly to the side.

00:26:27.000 You're also echoing very slightly.

00:26:30.000 Okay.

00:26:30.000 Oh, yeah?

00:26:31.000 Yeah.

00:26:31.000 Just a little bit.

00:26:33.000 Let me see if I can change that.

00:26:39.000 Okay, so it looks like we're good on my end.

00:26:41.000 Is it only in your headphones that I'm echoing?

00:26:45.000 Well, it's a little bit distorted.

00:26:48.000 I think your gain must be turned way up, I think.

00:26:52.000 I think I know the problem here.

00:26:54.000 I have my Yeti microphone as the input.

00:26:56.000 Oh.

00:26:57.000 Okay, are we better now?

00:26:59.000 Yeah, that's somewhat better.

00:27:00.000 Let me turn this down slightly then.

00:27:02.000 It's more clear.

00:27:03.000 Okay.

00:27:04.000 All right.

00:27:04.000 So, how are you?

00:27:05.000 I'm doing well.

00:27:06.000 How are you?

00:27:07.000 It's great to have you on the show.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, it's great to be here outside of a debate format, too.

00:27:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:13.000 A little bit less hostile, or not hostile, but less combative.

00:27:17.000 And so, this is your first time on the show.

00:27:19.000 We did do the.

00:27:21.000 We did do the My Name is Al, or no, the Call Me Al show where we debated religion.

00:27:26.000 And that was a fun time.

00:27:27.000 I think it was a great stream.

00:27:28.000 Many people enjoyed.

00:27:29.000 But for the audience I see in the live chat all the time, but for the audience that isn't familiar, I don't think there's a lot of overlap.

00:27:36.000 There's some, but very different spheres we come from.

00:27:39.000 So tell us a little bit about yourself.

00:27:42.000 Well, for anyone that doesn't know, I've been on YouTube for some time.

00:27:45.000 I branched out, obviously, into other ventures now because I'm no longer sure that YouTube is a single platform that's stable anymore, sadly.

00:27:54.000 Political commentary, a little bit about the occult and other things.

00:27:57.000 I've been doing a lot of gardening.

00:27:59.000 Because it's finally spring here.

00:28:01.000 I don't know, what state or place do you live in?

00:28:05.000 I'm in Chicago.

00:28:07.000 Okay, so it's probably at least a little bit warmer than here.

00:28:10.000 Well, you'd be surprised.

00:28:13.000 It was actually the coldest April since 18 something here.

00:28:17.000 So I envy it.

00:28:18.000 It must be a little warmer there, maybe, huh?

00:28:21.000 No, actually, I don't think it is.

00:28:22.000 I think it's the coldest since 1800 and froze to death, which was, I can't remember exactly, it was the year that Shelley wrote Frankenstein because there was no actual summer.

00:28:32.000 Some volcanoes.

00:28:33.000 It erupted up in the Arctic and disrupted all the weather patterns.

00:28:36.000 Okay, so maybe there's that one state worse than Chicago.

00:28:40.000 We've been having it, it's been a nice weekend this weekend or this week.

00:28:44.000 We got 65 today.

00:28:46.000 It was like 60 the other day.

00:28:47.000 Supposed to be 70 on Monday, so we're doing good.

00:28:50.000 So you garden.

00:28:51.000 Tell me, what's that?

00:28:52.000 What do you garden?

00:28:52.000 Do you garden like vegetables or flowers?

00:28:55.000 I'm not a gardener, so I don't know.

00:28:57.000 Yeah, a little bit of everything.

00:28:58.000 I've plowed in, I think, seven flower gardens so far this year, and there are a couple more to go, a bunch of vegetables, but the hot weather crops have to wait because I think there will be.

00:29:07.000 At least some frost into mid May.

00:29:09.000 So it'll be about, it'll be roughly average for that corn, beans, you know, tomatoes.

00:29:15.000 I like vegetables and I like them.

00:29:17.000 I'm not to be hippie ish, but I like them organic and homegrown.

00:29:20.000 I think they just taste better.

00:29:21.000 It has nothing to do with like trying to be a hippie.

00:29:24.000 Sure.

00:29:25.000 No, that's admirable.

00:29:26.000 I understand that because you look at the way, well, especially with what just came out about the lettuce, the lettuce and the eggs where they do these massive recalls.

00:29:34.000 There's something to be said about knowing where your food comes from.

00:29:38.000 You're putting it in your body.

00:29:39.000 It's, you know, you become what you eat.

00:29:41.000 Something to be said about, You put the seeds in the ground and you monitor it and you get it out, right?

00:29:45.000 Is that.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, I'm not exactly growing soybeans, if you know what I'm saying.

00:29:50.000 That's good, yeah.

00:29:52.000 So you got the garden going, you've been doing YouTube, and I know you're pretty all over the place, which is, I think, something that's interesting about YouTube personalities and something that's interesting about you.

00:30:03.000 I watched a lot of your content to prepare for the debate, and you're really, you cover a lot of topics.

00:30:08.000 You cover politics, the occult, religion.

00:30:12.000 I mean, tell us a little bit about your program and what are the kinds of things you get into?

00:30:17.000 Yeah, well, these were all interests years ago anyway.

00:30:20.000 I was interested for some time in gardening.

00:30:22.000 My grandfather taught me how to garden way back in around 2003 or 2004.

00:30:28.000 That's the first time I ever sort of plowed in plants or anything.

00:30:31.000 And you know, you water them, you fertilize them a little, and they grow.

00:30:34.000 They weren't great at the time, but I thought it was interesting.

00:30:37.000 I used to hike a lot, so I like outdoor work.

00:30:40.000 I've been re landscaping the entire property, which is almost two and a half acres in size.

00:30:45.000 So it's Considerable.

00:30:47.000 So, and as far as everything else on YouTube, I've been here since 2007.

00:30:53.000 That's a long time.

00:30:54.000 That's a long time.

00:30:56.000 It's funny how it's evolved over the years.

00:30:58.000 You know, I go back and I look at some of these older videos.

00:31:01.000 Yeah.

00:31:03.000 Yeah.

00:31:03.000 Right.

00:31:04.000 Yeah.

00:31:04.000 Definitely.

00:31:05.000 With the, yeah.

00:31:06.000 A lot of conspicuous policies with Google, right?

00:31:09.000 But I mean, you go back and you watch these old videos.

00:31:12.000 And I remember when you couldn't get a YouTube video that was older than a few years, you know, everything was pretty new.

00:31:17.000 And Now, some of it just feels ancient.

00:31:19.000 You know, you watch like Annoying Orange, and I feel like an old man.

00:31:23.000 Right?

00:31:23.000 Oh, God.

00:31:24.000 I feel like I'm from ancient Egypt.

00:31:27.000 But I have to say, I hated annoying orange at the time.

00:31:32.000 I don't even think about it now because it's like, does it still exist?

00:31:36.000 I don't even know if they're still making new ones.

00:31:39.000 I'm not sure.

00:31:40.000 I think I pulled it up a few weeks ago.

00:31:43.000 It's funny how all the old, like, really bad meme stuff doesn't age well.

00:31:48.000 Like, you know, Fred Figelhorn.

00:31:50.000 Oh, it's just gotten so terrible.

00:31:53.000 And the orange and.

00:31:55.000 All those old ones, they used to be really good.

00:31:58.000 They lost all the followers and then, you know, it just turned out, you know.

00:32:01.000 There are a couple like Mondo, I think it's Mondo Media, still makes Happy Tree Friends, which is still edgy in the same sense that it always has been.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

00:32:12.000 Happy Tree, that was the violent cartoon, right?

00:32:14.000 Yeah.

00:32:15.000 Yeah, good times, good times.

00:32:17.000 So tell me, you have this two acre plot of land.

00:32:19.000 Are you in Vermont, right?

00:32:21.000 Yeah, yeah, and in Rutland County.

00:32:24.000 Have you always been in Vermont or is that new?

00:32:26.000 No, well, I was technically speaking.

00:32:30.000 Technically, I was born in New Hampshire, which some people don't get.

00:32:34.000 But, you know, since I was a little kid, I've been in Vermont almost continuously.

00:32:38.000 I have lived in other states, Texas, Florida.

00:32:42.000 I lived literally five minutes from the Mexican border when I was in Texas, which also a lot of people, for some reason, don't get.

00:32:49.000 So when they talk about like Texas will go blue and stuff, they don't think that I've been there and thus don't understand the reasoning behind it, I guess.

00:32:58.000 Wait, so you say you don't think Texas will go blue.

00:33:02.000 Is that?

00:33:03.000 Why do you think that?

00:33:03.000 Really?

00:33:04.000 I know that you've predicted, I think, isn't it 2024?

00:33:07.000 You've said you think it'll go blue?

00:33:08.000 Well, I've said variously sometime in 2024, or if not then, then in 10 years at least after that.

00:33:15.000 But why do you disagree?

00:33:16.000 What is your take on that?

00:33:18.000 Yeah, because I think that the next generation of people, the children of immigrants, are way more closeted and conservative than anyone can possibly imagine, to the point of almost being whiter than a lot of white nationalists in their mentality.

00:33:31.000 Having spoken with many of them, there's a vein of, Ethno nationalism that runs extremely deep in some of these communities, but you'd never see it on the surface, and it's not yet being really represented in voting because a lot of these people also, their younger voting blocs tend to be more liberal anyway.

00:33:49.000 Texas is a young state compared to maybe a Vermont or a New Hampshire, so that does skew it somewhat.

00:33:54.000 But no, I don't think it's, I would predict that California would go red before Texas will go blue.

00:34:00.000 Really?

00:34:01.000 State civic nationalism will kick in at some point, and there will be a backlash against.

00:34:06.000 Liberals that are moving into the state, there will be a statewide nativist movement before they'll go blue.

00:34:13.000 That's an interesting prediction.

00:34:14.000 I've never really heard anybody go against that.

00:34:17.000 It's become standard fare on the right wing, and nobody's really challenged it.

00:34:21.000 Yeah, but the thing is, I'm not technically right wing in many senses.

00:34:26.000 I'll side with the right wing on free speech at the moment because I look at the left, so called, and totally abandon it.

00:34:34.000 Right, right.

00:34:35.000 Well, yeah, but that's an interesting point that you make.

00:34:37.000 And I think there's almost something to that.

00:34:39.000 I think.

00:34:40.000 We look at the present trends, we look at the present statistics, and it paints a pretty gloomy picture.

00:34:44.000 You know, you look at any of the polling about these people, but I have never totally ruled that out the idea that I don't think it's totally lost.

00:34:53.000 I think people misunderstand the idea that there's this determinism about it that, well, if they vote this way today, they'll vote the same way consistently for 10 or 20 or 25 years.

00:35:05.000 But we know that I think people can change their minds.

00:35:07.000 If the Democrats keep going the way they are without a viable message, without very viable candidates, I don't think anything's guaranteed for them, especially not in Texas.

00:35:16.000 Yeah.

00:35:17.000 And just remember, of course, for people, Michigan was, you know, what was it, 12 points in the blue in the last couple of elections, I think, and in the high single digits before that, people were saying it was irrevocably, irreversibly now a blue state.

00:35:31.000 It was no longer a swing state, and Trump won there.

00:35:34.000 Pennsylvania, they said, well, for the last four elections, the Democrats have gotten it by increasingly large margins.

00:35:41.000 Republicans can never possibly compete there.

00:35:44.000 Trump wins it.

00:35:45.000 Wisconsin, same thing.

00:35:47.000 I look at the electoral map over time, and regardless of racial or ethnic.

00:35:52.000 Composition, regardless of anything else, there's always shift and it never moves in a unidirectional fashion.

00:35:59.000 It always jumps around wildly according to what the story of the day is.

00:36:03.000 It depends on what people give importance to.

00:36:06.000 If they're giving importance to a suffrage movement versus civil rights or maybe a war or anti war sentiment versus some social issue or taxation versus jobs, there's going to be a different result because the states are all different in the composition thereof.

00:36:22.000 Yeah, that's a really great point.

00:36:23.000 You know, we talk a lot about on the show about how Indiana went blue in 2008.

00:36:28.000 And I think many people would think of Indiana, when you look at the history of the state, as a red state, as a very, very conservative state.

00:36:35.000 And yet, places like Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, they went for Barack Obama in 2008.

00:36:40.000 And so I think, you know, I don't know if I'm totally on board with the idea that it could never happen, but I do definitely understand where you're coming from that to project what will happen in 10 years based on, I think, a very static, Understanding of demographics and voter trends, I think is probably a little bit presumptuous at the very least, right?

00:37:01.000 Yeah, I think they tend to jump around over time.

00:37:04.000 People have thought many times that progress moves in one direction, progress so called in the progressive sense, of course.

00:37:12.000 They think that things are the same forever.

00:37:14.000 And every generation makes the same mistake of thinking that they're modern and hip.

00:37:18.000 And they don't realize as they get a little bit older, they're no longer modern and hip and they get displaced.

00:37:22.000 And they're like, no, no, no, no.

00:37:24.000 We were the progressive ones.

00:37:26.000 We perfected everything.

00:37:27.000 We made everything over in our image, and this is the way things are supposed to be.

00:37:30.000 And then it gets eroded away, and they don't understand what's going on. 0.81

00:37:33.000 I think, in some ways, Gen Z is a little bit closer to the silent generation.

00:37:39.000 This generation, the millennials, is sort of like the boomers, only maybe with a few more redeeming facets, music aside, of course.

00:37:48.000 Right, right. 0.86

00:37:49.000 That's a good point.

00:37:50.000 No, it is.

00:37:50.000 Well, we're one of the bigger generations, and we are at this kind of transformative place in our history.

00:37:55.000 I think we're seeing very similar.

00:37:57.000 Formative events in the same way that the boomers did, in the sense that the boomers came of age during this period of social tumult and demographic transformation to a very changing conception of national identity.

00:38:10.000 And Generation Z is facing a very similar thing.

00:38:13.000 Maybe not totally comparable with the late 60s.

00:38:16.000 It's a comparison that's made pretty often, but I think there's definitely similarities.

00:38:20.000 Now, you talk about progress, and I want to get your take on this because this is something I talk a lot about on the show, which is.

00:38:28.000 There is this idea among the left, and I know you don't really comfortably fit really into the mainstream right or left, but they do say on both the left and the right that progress is possible, that America has gotten materially wealthy, sickness has gone down, and this constitutes human progress, and we can get better.

00:38:47.000 And on this show, we're very right wing, we're very conservative, and we say that's not really happening.

00:38:52.000 We're basically, the nature stays the same.

00:38:55.000 Some of the trappings can go up and down, but it's basically the same thing.

00:38:58.000 I'm really wondering, because you come at it from a position that's.

00:39:03.000 I don't want to say pagan because you're going to say, oh, well, you're going to correct me, but you come from this alternative religious perspective, kind of a non ideological.

00:39:11.000 What is your position about progress?

00:39:13.000 I think the United States can absolutely show progress.

00:39:17.000 The problem is, right now, we're in such a transformative stage.

00:39:20.000 We're in a paradigm shift in which the neoliberalism that was the hallmark of everything after Ronald Reagan left office, Herbert Walker, sort of ushers it in.

00:39:29.000 It was ushered in by sort of Reagan's handlers late second term.

00:39:33.000 He was demented by that point.

00:39:35.000 I don't know if you get into that.

00:39:37.000 I happen to believe he was.

00:39:39.000 Herbert Walker, he just goes with the flow because he's like, well, I've got power, I've got wealth, who cares?

00:39:44.000 It continues through Clinton, through Bush, through Obama, and they're basically all the same.

00:39:48.000 That's being washed away.

00:39:50.000 The problem is that over that period of time, we've gained huge amounts of wealth.

00:39:54.000 The population has skyrocketed, and yet more Americans than ever are worse off than ever.

00:40:00.000 The war on poverty didn't work any more than the war on drugs or any of the proxy wars that we've waged.

00:40:06.000 I think what we need to do as a country is really think about where we want to go.

00:40:11.000 And instead of just sort of going with the flow, we need to Hammer out some points about what we want to actually be as a nation.

00:40:18.000 Now, for me, that's freedom.

00:40:21.000 The freedom of speech is important to me.

00:40:24.000 I know there are even people on the right that are like, no, we need to suppress the left.

00:40:27.000 I'm like, that won't work.

00:40:29.000 Trust me, it'll never work.

00:40:32.000 As far as the culture war goes, I don't have any problem with postmodernism in the sense of fashion and music and stuff.

00:40:37.000 When it gets into social movements that are larger than that, when it seeps into the education system, it can be a problem.

00:40:44.000 I don't have a problem with religion.

00:40:45.000 I don't, like, for instance, you're a Christian.

00:40:48.000 I don't see a problem with that.

00:40:49.000 But there are other people that do.

00:40:51.000 I think they're the ones, honestly, that become problematic.

00:40:55.000 Years ago, I may not have said so.

00:40:57.000 But we need to figure out where we're going as a nation before we can actually go there.

00:41:01.000 We need to make a map before we set sail.

00:41:03.000 Otherwise, we're just lost at sea.

00:41:05.000 Yeah, no, that's a very profound point and very prescient.

00:41:09.000 That's something that Sam Huntington wrote a lot about in the beginning of this century about how America has basically lost the identity that.

00:41:19.000 Binds all of us together in the sense that he talks about how, as the nation evolved, we had an ethnic identity, a racial identity, a cultural identity, a political identity.

00:41:28.000 We could say that we were an Anglo Saxon, white, Protestant, American democratic nation.

00:41:35.000 And over time, every part of that identity has come under assault to the point where we're embracing these different conceptions of are we Islamic?

00:41:44.000 Are we Mexican?

00:41:45.000 Are we this?

00:41:46.000 Are we European?

00:41:48.000 And even in terms of national goals, I think we've really lost a national purpose.

00:41:52.000 I think it's a very good point you make about what are our values.

00:41:56.000 With the advent of multiculturalism, even something like free speech is not a given.

00:42:01.000 Even something like freedom is not a given when you have people who say hate speech has to go and the Second Amendment has to go and all the rest. 1.00

00:42:08.000 And I think that's a really good point.

00:42:10.000 It's something that hasn't been addressed, really, in terms of who are we going to be?

00:42:15.000 It's just been this political tug of war, but nobody's really asked the American people, what do you want your nation to look like?

00:42:22.000 And then the left is really doing itself a disservice.

00:42:22.000 Yeah.

00:42:25.000 Because it thinks that if it creates this vacuum, it can fill it.

00:42:28.000 I think when it creates a vacuum of national or civic identity, it gets filled by other people.

00:42:33.000 Now, in a perfect world, that gets filled by people who are sane.

00:42:37.000 It gets filled by people who love freedom, maybe more traditional conservatives or libertarians or something, or classical liberals.

00:42:45.000 What's more likely to happen is that they end up having to vie with actual fanatics.

00:42:49.000 And the problem is that all the leftists keep getting in our way when we're trying to stop the fanatics.

00:42:53.000 We're sitting here, you know, and You would say this too, probably like, hey, you know, there are religious zealots in the world.

00:42:59.000 It may not be a problem here, but it's a problem elsewhere.

00:43:01.000 And you're really opening the floodgates.

00:43:04.000 They see that as bigotry, as racism.

00:43:06.000 I'm sitting there, Islam's not a race for an identity.

00:43:09.000 There never has been a sort of codified right to anyone in the world being able to come here in the first place.

00:43:15.000 I happen to believe there are a great many good people in the Middle East and everywhere else that want to believe in the American dream, but you've got to have some sort of process in place.

00:43:23.000 They don't want to have one.

00:43:24.000 They'll call you a bigot if you even suggest such a thing.

00:43:27.000 A border wall.

00:43:28.000 I'm like, and nothing has ever been done like that before.

00:43:31.000 You can't build walls over mountains.

00:43:33.000 Who was it who said that? 1.00

00:43:34.000 Was it Paul Ryan or one of these other idiots within Congress? 1.00

00:43:38.000 You can't build a wall over a mountain. 1.00

00:43:40.000 Meanwhile, picture of the Great Wall here. 0.83

00:43:42.000 It's like, oh, yeah, thousands of years ago, illiterate Chinese peasants built this 20 foot fortification. 0.96

00:43:50.000 Yeah, right, right. 0.97

00:43:51.000 It's, well, and I think the basic premise is that we've lost control of our country.

00:43:56.000 I think at the core of that, it's the assumption by the elites that we don't really have a right to say who can come here or not.

00:44:03.000 The American people or the American government are not truly sovereign.

00:44:07.000 And that if you can't even say, well, we can control our borders, we can control who comes in here and who doesn't.

00:44:13.000 I think you've lost the plot.

00:44:14.000 You've lost even what it means to be a country.

00:44:16.000 Trump said it a lot during the election.

00:44:18.000 He said, if you don't have borders, you don't have a country.

00:44:21.000 And I think people, that's a very simple thing to say.

00:44:24.000 People poke fun and they say, he's got this third grade vocabulary.

00:44:28.000 That's a very profound thing to say.

00:44:29.000 I mean, that's a very, there's a lot of substance in that.

00:44:32.000 That in order to have a definite, a defined country, there has to be a process, there has to be borders, and the people have to be in charge of it.

00:44:40.000 But we've cucked ourselves where we say, well, who are, Who are we to say who we even let into our communities and neighborhoods?

00:44:47.000 We have to let them all over.

00:44:49.000 So I respect that you, you know, you're kind of non ideological, but you have a common sense, I think a very just common sense understanding that that's what a country is.

00:44:59.000 When they talk about Trump having a third grade vocabulary, I'm like, okay, so he's two grades ahead of the Democratic Party at this point.

00:45:05.000 Yeah.

00:45:06.000 Okay, he's doing pretty well.

00:45:07.000 Yeah.

00:45:08.000 Right, right.

00:45:09.000 Well, yeah.

00:45:10.000 And even, you know, they're going to talk about Trump's vocabulary like after George W. Bush.

00:45:14.000 Really?

00:45:15.000 You know, you're going to get these Republicans.

00:45:17.000 Who defend W. Bush couldn't even get into the average kindergarten.

00:45:21.000 Yeah, right.

00:45:23.000 Don't get me started.

00:45:24.000 I think there's a lot of great bonding to be had between the right, like the new right and the left on hating George Bush.

00:45:31.000 There's so much unexplored territory there.

00:45:34.000 Well, it'd be harder to find any fans of George W that are still left. 0.69

00:45:38.000 I think most of them were demented to begin with.

00:45:40.000 Yeah, well, they're all going to be in Washington, D.C. They're all worked for him or they got money off of him or something.

00:45:46.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:45:46.000 It was funny how people thought he was a conservative.

00:45:48.000 It's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to increase the budget for everything.

00:45:51.000 Every bit of spending, I'm going to start several wars.

00:45:54.000 I'm going to suppress everything.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, I'm a principled conservative.

00:45:57.000 Well, yeah, and I think that's a very good point that I think both the left and the right can agree that we look at somebody like Bush who says he's a conservative.

00:46:05.000 We look at somebody like Obama who says he's a liberal.

00:46:08.000 We say it's the same, like you said, it's the same neoliberal nonsense for 25 years.

00:46:13.000 And there are real differences between right and left, even the conservative ink right, and it's just not represented there.

00:46:20.000 We just get the same globalist domination of the country.

00:46:23.000 Nobody likes it, nobody wants it.

00:46:26.000 Yeah.

00:46:27.000 And the original, like when back years ago in the zeitgeist days, like mid 2000s, there was like that piece of footage showing Herbert Walker talking about the New World Order.

00:46:37.000 Now, in the context of his speech, he meant the American Order, the New World as opposed to the old in the geographical sense.

00:46:44.000 But if you suggested that there was anything more beyond that, like actual globalism, you were called a kook, a conspiracy theorist.

00:46:51.000 Now they throw it around openly. 0.96

00:46:53.000 They're like, oh, globalism is good.

00:46:55.000 Having a global community, we need global law, we need a global army, we need global everything.

00:47:00.000 It's like if they had suggested this 10 years ago, people would have been out in the streets and a lot of them would have been left leaning, saying that the end times were upon us.

00:47:08.000 And they would have been joined by a bunch of fundamentalists on the far right who would be saying basically Lucifer had come.

00:47:16.000 Yeah, no, it's so true.

00:47:17.000 I mean, like 10 years ago, you would hear from talk radio hosts that if, like, you know, Barack Obama said the wrong thing, it was free speech is coming, you know, it's under attack of the country.

00:47:28.000 The Tea Party has to rise up.

00:47:30.000 And I think many people kind of laughed that off and they said, like, Even conservatives, I think, laughed that off.

00:47:35.000 They said, like, yeah, like, that's our talking point, but do we really believe that they're going to come for our guns, that they're going to come and take away our free speech?

00:47:43.000 And yet, you see it in the United Kingdom.

00:47:45.000 I think it's disturbing how it's like when they put the frog in a boiling pot of water and he jumps out, and you gradually turn up the heat, then they're okay.

00:47:52.000 I mean, in the UK, they got to the point where you get arrested for making a video, you get arrested for giving a finger to a traffic camera, you get arrested for, you know, you don't have a license.

00:48:01.000 You get a hug.

00:48:02.000 Yeah, that's right, or a license for having a spoon.

00:48:04.000 So it's a big problem.

00:48:07.000 I've got my spoon, so I'm all set on that one.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, the Dankula thing is surreal.

00:48:12.000 There are people trying to shut down his fundraiser because they're like, oh, who's found guilty of grossly offensive speech?

00:48:18.000 So we're going to shut down the fundraiser.

00:48:20.000 It's like they don't even realize GoFundMe is an American company.

00:48:22.000 It would be such bad PR if they shut down his fund.

00:48:25.000 Yeah, that would be such a betrayal.

00:48:27.000 But it's scary.

00:48:29.000 And as an American, I'm sure you feel the same.

00:48:31.000 It's scary to think about the possibility of the UK's style of censorship ever.

00:48:37.000 Encroaching upon US culture, but in a way it kind of has. 0.91

00:48:40.000 It's just the private companies and a bunch of crap-tivist vigilantes are the ones doing it. 0.94

00:48:44.000 They can't codify it legally. 0.70

00:48:46.000 They can't say the government can say you go to jail or get fined for saying the wrong thing, but they can say, oh, but all these hordes of people can call your workplace, harass you endlessly, threaten your family, and there's no legal recourse for it.

00:48:59.000 You can get defamed by BuzzFeed, like Scott Adams, myself, or a million other people.

00:49:04.000 You can get defamed by the Wall Street Journal, and there's no legal recourse unless you have millions of dollars.

00:49:10.000 It's basically the same friggin' thing when you think about it.

00:49:12.000 Oh, yeah. 0.96

00:49:13.000 Oh, 100%.

00:49:14.000 And the conservatives defend this.

00:49:15.000 As long as it's corporatist tyranny, as long as it's a private sector company doing it, I say that very loosely.

00:49:23.000 They get tremendous subsidies and protections and all the rest, but it's still the free market.

00:49:28.000 As long as it's Twitter enforcing it and as long as your employer's enforcing it, just so long as it's not the government, they're fine with it.

00:49:34.000 And I agree.

00:49:35.000 But I want to get into.

00:49:37.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:49:39.000 Oh, no, go ahead.

00:49:40.000 I wanted to get into the same subject.

00:49:42.000 I wanted to get into the Bill Cosby thing because I know you wanted to touch on that.

00:49:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:45.000 Yeah.

00:49:46.000 So, what's your take?

00:49:47.000 He was found guilty for raping these people, I guess, like 30 years ago.

00:49:52.000 And what's your take?

00:49:52.000 I know you were eager to get into this one.

00:49:55.000 Yeah.

00:49:55.000 Well, I think it's sexual assault.

00:49:57.000 And in related news, Tom Brokaw.

00:49:59.000 I don't know if you saw this.

00:50:00.000 I posted in chat in the last hour.

00:50:02.000 Tom Brokaw has been accused of sexually assaulting at least one person at Stafford NBC, for which he'll probably, I guess, go to jail.

00:50:11.000 Here's my thoughts on Cosby. 0.99

00:50:14.000 If one person comes forward and says you've done something wrong and they don't really have any evidence or it was years ago, I'm going to assume that it's probably shit. 1.00

00:50:22.000 It's BS. 0.99

00:50:24.000 And the person is doing it for money, especially if it's against someone like Cosby.

00:50:27.000 But when it's 60 people, it becomes difficult.

00:50:30.000 It becomes difficult to imagine that this large a proportion of all the people he's ever worked with, of any profile at all, in any way at all, have a vendetta against him or want his money.

00:50:41.000 It doesn't make logical sense.

00:50:43.000 That being said, I'm still scratching my head as to what the specific evidence is that would cause him to be found guilty, absolutely.

00:50:52.000 Which may surprise some people.

00:50:53.000 It may bother some people, but I'm saying, yes, hashtag me too, hashtag, you know, defend women, believe victims.

00:51:01.000 Yes, but we also have a system that employs the concept of a burden of proof against someone who's claimed to have committed some sort of crime.

00:51:10.000 I think Cosby's guilty, absolutely, based on the number of people that have come forward to claim that.

00:51:15.000 But my belief shouldn't be enough to jail somebody.

00:51:19.000 Well, yeah, I'm glad you said that because it's true. 1.00

00:51:22.000 I mean, You're right about the fact that, you know, 60 women, when you get into, I think when you get past a dozen, it's basically like, yeah, you know, you're probably in trouble. 1.00

00:51:30.000 But, but you're right.

00:51:32.000 I mean, we do have a system in the country where you're innocent until proven guilty, where the burden of proof is on the accuser.

00:51:38.000 And I think it's troublesome for people that worry about what kind of precedent that sets.

00:51:43.000 That if, if you're going to be convicted basically in the court of public opinion without any evidence, without any concrete proof, that's a big problem.

00:51:50.000 We saw that with Roy Moore, which some people were really committed, even Republicans said, okay, maybe he's guilty.

00:51:57.000 Some didn't.

00:51:57.000 But then you had, they were forging, they literally forged the only concrete evidence they had.

00:52:02.000 And regardless of what you think, that presents a problem for the justice system because, you know, it's all fun and games until you're the person who ends up being indicted for that kind of a thing.

00:52:13.000 It's just not the kind of thing that we should see in the country.

00:52:16.000 And I don't know, it used to be pretty old, though.

00:52:19.000 And I think it was Tariq Nasheed came out actually and said, like, oh, people, this is partially racially motivated.

00:52:27.000 And I'm, Thinking to myself, Tariq Nasheed's far left.

00:52:30.000 He's like, you know, like Joy Reid, progressive.

00:52:33.000 And it's really, really funny because Tariq Nasheed, at the same time, he should hate Cosby for being marginally conservative, you know, in the Reagan era, essentially, the neocon or something.

00:52:45.000 It's like, and isn't Cosby 80?

00:52:47.000 Like, I don't think they're going to put him in jail at this point.

00:52:51.000 Despite the fact that he's almost certainly, there's a 99.9% chance he's guilty.

00:52:57.000 Many people coming forward can't possibly be lying.

00:53:00.000 About every aspect. 0.98

00:53:01.000 At the very least, he's broke people up and did the 70s sort of shystery shit that people did back then, at the very least, if not raping people. 0.88

00:53:10.000 But again, if you've got a burden of proof at all, you can't throw an 80 year old man or any person in prison just because it's obvious they're guilty. 0.93

00:53:18.000 You need physical evidence.

00:53:20.000 There can't be physical evidence.

00:53:22.000 What's the newest case, actually?

00:53:25.000 What's the newest claim against Cosby?

00:53:27.000 Isn't it five years old?

00:53:29.000 I think most of them are past the statute of limitations.

00:53:33.000 For the most part.

00:53:34.000 Well, and he's basically already gotten away with it, right?

00:53:36.000 I mean, he's 80 some years old.

00:53:38.000 He lived out his career.

00:53:39.000 He's at the point where he's, I don't know, was he even on tour or anything?

00:53:43.000 At that point, somebody like that, and you see this with many people, people in the Me Too, people all over the place, where they get to a point where it's like, you know, is justice really being done in the sense that he lived a life of fortune and fame for a long time?

00:53:58.000 He went on abusing people, and he basically got the job done, and then he got caught a couple of years later, and now what are we going to do?

00:54:05.000 This kind of retributive thing.

00:54:07.000 I just think it's kind of.

00:54:07.000 I don't know.

00:54:08.000 That's what it is.

00:54:10.000 I think Nasheed is wrong, but partially it is probably politically motivated.

00:54:14.000 By the way, chat is exploding with apparently JF quitting the Worski show at the moment.

00:54:20.000 Really?

00:54:22.000 And people asking you to get.

00:54:23.000 I don't know whether that's true or whether it's a meme.

00:54:26.000 You want to see if we could get him on the show?

00:54:28.000 I don't want to.

00:54:29.000 Yeah, get JF in here if you can.

00:54:29.000 That would be.

00:54:32.000 Let me see if we could.

00:54:32.000 Let me see.

00:54:33.000 If he's actually not on there, I'll check the stream and see if.

00:54:37.000 That's actually remotely true.

00:54:39.000 All right.

00:54:40.000 Let me pull it up and we'll see.

00:54:41.000 I'll have to get rid of the display capture while I go on Twitter real quick.

00:54:45.000 But let me say that would be a pretty wild thing, right?

00:54:47.000 Anything could happen on America First.

00:54:50.000 Let me pull up the chat. 0.96

00:54:51.000 It looks like it's probably true.

00:54:54.000 I'll DM him on Twitter real quick and I'll see if we could get him on.

00:54:58.000 That'd be a pretty wild show.

00:55:00.000 Hey, Andy, you need a new co host?

00:55:02.000 Yeah, right, right.

00:55:04.000 Honestly, it's been so frustrating seeing the fighting because they do such a great product.

00:55:12.000 They do such a great job with the blood, better than I think anybody, really.

00:55:17.000 Of course, we were on Call Me Al, and I've done Baked Alaska.

00:55:20.000 I think maybe you have too, but.

00:55:23.000 I think they really had something special.

00:55:25.000 They were first, and it's such a shame to see it just get ruined by all this goofy drama.

00:55:31.000 Yeah.

00:55:32.000 Let me see.

00:55:33.000 Yeah, the Bloodsport stuff.

00:55:34.000 Well, the thing is, my thought on Bloodsports has been, and I've said this for about a year YouTubers and creators in general need to stick together.

00:55:43.000 Definitely, if you have debates, maybe you have arguments or something, that's great.

00:55:47.000 But that's just, you know, ultimately, it's about the viewers, it's about our audiences.

00:55:51.000 We're here to entertain, we're here to inform.

00:55:53.000 You, even if you have some bad blood, you've got to suppress it for other people, it's just got to be done, yeah.

00:55:59.000 Because otherwise, yeah, if this is true, if JF actually quit, you can bet Jared Hole to write a hit piece tomorrow about this.

00:56:06.000 You can bet oh, oh, schism within the far right, how YouTube's far right is falling apart. 0.93

00:56:12.000 JF accused, you know, whatever, uh, Andy Worski head Nazi, it's gonna be crap, basically, yeah. 0.93

00:56:21.000 Well, you make a good point about how self indulgent it is to do the drama, you know. 0.98

00:56:26.000 I mean, it's like you and I, we had our religious debate, but that we're here talking and having a good time.

00:56:32.000 That's what people should be doing.

00:56:34.000 And I think that's what people enjoy.

00:56:35.000 And it's about the people.

00:56:37.000 You don't do content to make money.

00:56:39.000 You don't do content because it's a passion project.

00:56:43.000 I think for most people, at least, you do it for the benefit of the audience.

00:56:47.000 And to drag it into the gutter with this goofy, silly, high school stuff, I just think it's unfortunate to see that kind of a thing happen.

00:56:56.000 I mean, even me and James, we used to do our podcast and.

00:57:00.000 We had severe differences over the course of our working relationship.

00:57:04.000 And even still, whatever we were on the podcast, it was always business.

00:57:08.000 It was always, you know, we're going to put on a product or different.

00:57:11.000 StripeFox in chat pointing out no more brother wars.

00:57:14.000 It makes sense.

00:57:15.000 And I would just say if I stopped talking to everybody that I ever had differences with, I wouldn't talk to anybody.

00:57:23.000 Yeah, me too.

00:57:24.000 I know that feeling quite well.

00:57:25.000 But it looks like nothing from JF.

00:57:29.000 I'll check in on him again in a moment.

00:57:31.000 Well, he's not, he didn't.

00:57:33.000 Appear to be on the stream, and the chat in there is definitely full of that.

00:57:37.000 So, yeah, well, I'll pop back in there in about five minutes or so, and we'll see if we get a response from him because I still want to.

00:57:45.000 That'd be pretty wild if we got him on.

00:57:46.000 But I did want to ask you about your bid for governorship.

00:57:50.000 I wanted to hear about that because I saw Jared Holt, this guy.

00:57:56.000 He's a big fan of the show, actually.

00:57:59.000 Well, yeah, I'm sure he's probably watching right now.

00:58:01.000 And if he is, hello, Jared.

00:58:03.000 My debate offer is still open to you.

00:58:05.000 You've been.

00:58:06.000 Pledged roughly $4,000 to do it total.

00:58:09.000 So it's a lot of money.

00:58:11.000 You can't say that you're not going to be paid well for that one hour of work.

00:58:11.000 Yeah.

00:58:16.000 It's pretty good stuff.

00:58:17.000 I don't know how much Soros gives him, but by anyone's estimation, it's probably a couple months' rent in his penthouse.

00:58:24.000 But yeah, as far as the governorship goes, it's an interesting thing.

00:58:30.000 I did want to run in an official capacity.

00:58:33.000 I mean, I had people messaging me actively.

00:58:36.000 And I was coordinating with them.

00:58:37.000 Hey, here's sort of you go out to certain communities in Vermont, get signatures.

00:58:42.000 That way I can get officially on the ballot.

00:58:44.000 I can file my paperwork.

00:58:45.000 It's basically saying my income and stuff.

00:58:47.000 Then somebody on Twitter messaged me or tweeted at me.

00:58:53.000 I don't know the difference in Twitter lingo, saying, Oh, you know, Patreon will get rid of your page for doing this.

00:58:59.000 They don't allow political campaign funds.

00:59:02.000 And I'm like, Oh, well, I've got to look into this.

00:59:04.000 And I asked Patreon itself.

00:59:06.000 I actually sent an email off and they confirmed that they don't do that.

00:59:09.000 They don't care.

00:59:10.000 But then they also did mention, But it might be a problem with campaign law. 0.98

00:59:14.000 And then I thought to myself, Oh, crap, that's right.

00:59:16.000 I have a global audience. 0.93

00:59:17.000 I don't just have an audience within Vermont or within the US.

00:59:20.000 Donating to me, probably half my money comes from overseas.

00:59:24.000 So that might be a little bit of a problem.

00:59:26.000 And some people were saying, just change it so that only people from within the US can donate.

00:59:31.000 And I said, well, that might work.

00:59:32.000 But then I thought, but I've already taken for four months out of the fiscal year money from people who potentially are overseas.

00:59:39.000 So if I was going to run for office, I need at least a year in advance to make sure that I'm only getting domestic money, unless it's on book sales, because that wouldn't make a difference.

00:59:49.000 Because when I file financial disclosure, I'm going to have to tell people, yes, in full disclosure, I got like $2,000 from Russia, inexplicably, so that Phil Scott can say, oh, he's controlled by a foreign state, which is exactly what would happen.

01:00:02.000 You know that they would play dirty.

01:00:03.000 And if I ran, if I ran, I know right wing watch, Wall Street Journal, BuzzFeed, they're already doing hit pieces on me, despite the fact that supposedly I don't matter.

01:00:13.000 Just imagine if I was running a viable gubernatorial campaign.

01:00:17.000 The Atlantic and CNN would be covering it within hours.

01:00:20.000 That's true.

01:00:21.000 Well, that's interesting.

01:00:22.000 That's all because I saw you announced and, uh, And I wish you well.

01:00:26.000 And that Jared Taylor, I mean, he is just, or not Jared Taylor, Jared Holt.

01:00:29.000 You like Jared Taylor.

01:00:31.000 Jared Holt, who's just the most insufferable.

01:00:34.000 And it's funny because it's almost hard to get mad at him because he's got this little baby face.

01:00:39.000 I just want to squeeze his cheeks.

01:00:40.000 But, well, yeah.

01:00:41.000 Well, he did, in Jared Holt's defense, one thing that he did do is he did sort of go back on one tweet he made where he was outright supporting censorship.

01:00:51.000 He was like, oh, you know, Dank Hill only got fined, not jailed.

01:00:54.000 He did end up rescinding his support of that and sort of, Going back on his position.

01:00:59.000 I gave him credit for that, actually.

01:01:02.000 But generally speaking, he is a pro censorship, alt leftist, basically speaking.

01:01:07.000 Essentially.

01:01:08.000 And he likes to not put his full views out there.

01:01:11.000 You can infer them if you're not insane, but he likes to not discuss them too much so he can pretend that people are wrong when they attack it, as though it were a straw man.

01:01:21.000 I mean, he works for that.

01:01:21.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

01:01:22.000 He's an intern at Right Wing Watch, which is directly funded by Soros. 0.98

01:01:28.000 Yes, its parent company is literally a Soros ass, and people don't even want to hear it. 0.98

01:01:33.000 They're like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. 0.99

01:01:35.000 No, it's literally in his portfolio.

01:01:36.000 It's on Wikipedia, dude.

01:01:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

01:01:39.000 Like, it's some, like, you're going on like conspiracy.biz, Soros.

01:01:43.000 It's like, it's all right there.

01:01:45.000 George Soros is very open about what he funds because he considers himself a philanthropist.

01:01:50.000 Right.

01:01:51.000 So I wonder just how much money Jared Holt gets from George Soros funds.

01:01:55.000 That's what I want to know.

01:01:57.000 We got to know.

01:01:57.000 It's true.

01:01:58.000 Yeah.

01:01:58.000 Financial disclosure.

01:01:59.000 Right.

01:02:00.000 But, yeah.

01:02:01.000 And so you're running for governor of Vermont.

01:02:03.000 You're going to have to do it basically off the books then, as a write in then, and not as a.

01:02:08.000 People can still write in my name.

01:02:09.000 It is essentially a protest vote.

01:02:11.000 I don't harbor any illusions about actually winning.

01:02:14.000 But just think if I came in third, got a few thousand votes, which is all you'd need in Vermont, by the way, it would blow a bunch of people's gaskets.

01:02:22.000 Yeah, no, it would blow their minds.

01:02:24.000 It would get in the news.

01:02:25.000 Absolutely.

01:02:26.000 It would be there during the midterms themselves.

01:02:28.000 It'd be Tarle Warwick up on the screen.

01:02:30.000 People would hear it.

01:02:31.000 Tarle, yeah.

01:02:32.000 What are you exactly protesting with this protest vote?

01:02:35.000 I mean, what's the aim here?

01:02:37.000 Is it publicity?

01:02:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:02:40.000 Well, the Democrats in this state have lost their damn minds fiscally. 0.98

01:02:44.000 They want to raise taxes when our in state income tax rate is already above 7% for the highest bracket. 0.99

01:02:49.000 Like, I got hammered.

01:02:50.000 I had to pay $1,600 just to the state of Vermont.

01:02:53.000 Now, what's it paying for?

01:02:54.000 I'm not exactly sure.

01:02:56.000 It's paying for pothole filled roads and for people to not get properly served by the handout system.

01:03:03.000 They still can't afford fuel. 0.99

01:03:05.000 That's why all of our churches and high schools have to gather turkeys so they can have a Thanksgiving fucking meal. 0.98

01:03:10.000 So the state's not taking care of our poor despite our massive tax rates. 0.98

01:03:15.000 Our students get a great education, then move elsewhere to go to college and usually get a job in the Dakotas or Texas.

01:03:21.000 Then they come back when they retire at 60.

01:03:24.000 They make all their money in some other state and then they come back here. 0.98

01:03:28.000 And as far as Phil Scott, who's the Republican, he's nuts. 0.96

01:03:32.000 He doesn't know what he's doing. 0.95

01:03:33.000 He went far right on pop, which is the worst possible mistake he could make in a state like Vermont.

01:03:38.000 Then he goes far left on guns.

01:03:39.000 He's like, oh, yeah, expanded magazines are a problem in our state.

01:03:42.000 We don't have a gun violence problem.

01:03:44.000 When's the last time there was a mass shooting in Vermont?

01:03:47.000 I don't even think there has been.

01:03:49.000 That's like the worst.

01:03:50.000 That's the worst of both worlds to be, especially for Vermont, to be right on pot and left.

01:03:56.000 Because Bernie Sanders is infamously pro gun for Democrats.

01:04:00.000 I would rather Bernie Sanders be governor than him.

01:04:03.000 I mean, he's going to side with the Democrats on taxes.

01:04:05.000 Well, hell, Phil Scott hasn't lowered them.

01:04:07.000 He just prevented them from rising any further, but that's not saying much.

01:04:11.000 Yeah, that's a good point, though, that you make about that kind of socialist economics in a country like the United States.

01:04:11.000 What's the point?

01:04:19.000 It's a good point that you make that.

01:04:21.000 You invest in the people in Vermont in terms of education and all the rest, and they take it elsewhere.

01:04:27.000 And I hear you in Illinois.

01:04:28.000 They're going to go to a place like I've considered moving, honestly, back to Texas, where there's no state income tax rate.

01:04:34.000 If I can save $1,600, $2,000, I'd be crazy not to.

01:04:38.000 Look, I can make better use of that than a state government can.

01:04:42.000 Well, and they do the same thing in Illinois.

01:04:44.000 I mean, that's the same story here the taxes here are like this, and the taxes in Indiana are like half that.

01:04:52.000 Didn't they just raise the state income tax rate to four something in Illinois, too?

01:04:57.000 They did.

01:04:59.000 I think I saw that.

01:05:00.000 It's been horrible.

01:05:00.000 It's a similar situation with our governor, where we have Bruce Rauner, who came in in 2012, and he promised, Oh, I'm going to fix everything.

01:05:08.000 I'm going to shake up Springfield.

01:05:09.000 I'm going to do all the rest.

01:05:11.000 And he not only did nothing, he not only kept none of his promises, but he actually went back on two of them and made Illinois a sanctuary state and then did, he legalized some form of abortion and lied to the archbishop.

01:05:23.000 In Chicago.

01:05:24.000 So, this guy, that's the Republican.

01:05:26.000 The Democrat is J.B. Pritzker, who's been like, he's this fat Jewish guy who basically has been running Chicago, this billionaire, for like 20 years, far left progressive.

01:05:36.000 It's like, who am I even going to vote? 0.55

01:05:38.000 I swear I'm going to vote for myself.

01:05:40.000 I voted for myself in half of the elections in the primary.

01:05:43.000 So, yeah.

01:05:44.000 It's sort of like years ago when Illinois spawns Obama and he has to pretend to be conservative on the gay marriage issue.

01:05:50.000 And then he tries to take credit for social progress. 0.98

01:05:53.000 Decade later, it was funny.

01:05:55.000 Yeah, people forget that.

01:05:56.000 People forget that both he and Hillary were against gay marriage, but we remember.

01:06:00.000 We pay attention. 0.92

01:06:02.000 And I'm going to pull up Twitter and I'll see if we got any word from JF.

01:06:06.000 I'll actually pull it up on my phone so I don't have to get rid of our display.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, I should probably check Twitter because mine's probably blowing up by this point.

01:06:14.000 It looks like nothing from JF, so I don't know.

01:06:16.000 Maybe he's already.

01:06:18.000 He might be angry or it may be some giant joke.

01:06:21.000 I don't know.

01:06:21.000 It could be.

01:06:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:06:24.000 But do you want to do some questions from the audience?

01:06:27.000 Are there like super chats or in general, you mean?

01:06:27.000 Sure.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:31.000 We have some super chats for you.

01:06:33.000 So I have to get rid of the display here while I read them out.

01:06:36.000 Until I get two monitors, it has to be this way.

01:06:38.000 But we'll take a look at our stream labs.

01:06:40.000 We'll see what people are saying if they got any questions for you.

01:06:45.000 Let's see.

01:06:46.000 Somebody says, Who do you think is responsible or at the source of the push for mass migration?

01:06:52.000 Do you think the founders of the Frankfurt School actually believed what they were saying?

01:06:56.000 Wouldn't a weakened West mean that there is no one to protect?

01:07:00.000 Oh, a weakened West, Western civilization, would mean that there's no one to protect Israel? 0.69

01:07:05.000 What do you think about that?

01:07:07.000 I think that, honestly, mass migration is being pushed by corporatists that just want cheap labor at this point.

01:07:14.000 They think that the Western.

01:07:15.000 Economies will begin to stop growing because the population will stop growing, which screws them.

01:07:22.000 It doesn't screw the average person.

01:07:23.000 They can still have their land, they can have everything.

01:07:26.000 Population density stabilizes, it's fine.

01:07:29.000 For them, though, it's the death knell because eventually their monopolies will be degraded because they've been state backed. 0.82

01:07:35.000 So, Merkel, who is a corporatist neoliberal, wants lots of cheap labor that she can exploit.

01:07:42.000 It also helps them during elections because they can call anyone who opposes it a racist. 1.00

01:07:47.000 And run against that straw man.

01:07:49.000 So it's a good, for them, it's just a campaign tactic, too. 1.00

01:07:52.000 They're crazy. 0.99

01:07:53.000 Yeah. 0.88

01:07:54.000 Yeah, no, I think that's one of the underrated explanations.

01:07:56.000 I mean, I think you can look at the influence of the Frankfurt School, certainly the influences of the media, but I mean, that's a big driver in Europe the fact that their welfare state, the population pyramid is upside down.

01:08:09.000 And so you have to have that kind of base to shore it up.

01:08:12.000 Unfortunately, how many of them end up working or paying taxes?

01:08:15.000 You know, that tends to be problematic.

01:08:18.000 But yeah, that's a big part of it.

01:08:19.000 And what do you think about what is your take on Israel?

01:08:22.000 Are you a Zionist or are you what's your take on that? 0.76

01:08:26.000 I support their right to exist, but at the same time, I do not support their right to expand into other people's territory. 0.90

01:08:32.000 And that's exactly what's being done.

01:08:34.000 I think there's a lot of imperialism there.

01:08:36.000 Nationalism's fine.

01:08:38.000 Imperialism, I have a problem with when you're attacking using a stealth bomber some Syrian nuclear site, which is just an energy production site, and arming groups around you and bombing things in the Sinai. 0.82

01:08:54.000 With or without the Egyptian government's permission.

01:08:57.000 I think it's problematic.

01:08:58.000 And they have a good relationship with the Jordanians, but it's like it must suck to be on the West Bank when you're completely surrounded. 1.00

01:09:04.000 And the thing is, we've got to keep in mind as well the area is dominated by Islam. 0.95

01:09:09.000 This is a Jewish enclave within the region.

01:09:13.000 But it's still a Middle Eastern religion. 1.00

01:09:16.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:09:17.000 And it's also not our fight.

01:09:18.000 We shouldn't really be getting majorly involved to begin with.

01:09:23.000 Unless it's.

01:09:23.000 Okay, great.

01:09:24.000 Unless it's to say we pumped so much money and so many resources into the region, we're coming.

01:09:28.000 You got to pay the pipe or now you're a colony.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, right, right.

01:09:32.000 No, you checked all the right boxes there in terms of.

01:09:35.000 I was a little bit worried because I know atheism is unstoppable, for example. 0.99

01:09:39.000 He's a Zionist. 1.00

01:09:40.000 I probably could gel with him if it weren't for some of that stuff. 0.94

01:09:44.000 So you got a reasonable take on Israel. 0.62

01:09:46.000 So we're sad.

01:09:47.000 I was almost going to say, wait a minute, we didn't get his take on Israel.

01:09:50.000 The friendship might collapse if there's a disagreement there.

01:09:54.000 So.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, no, I don't have any problem.

01:09:57.000 Some people think of Holocaust deniers because BuzzFeed said so.

01:10:01.000 No, I don't have any problem with Jews. 0.90

01:10:02.000 I have a problem with Judaism as a religion, and I have a problem with Zionistic expansionism. 0.94

01:10:07.000 As far as nationalism, yeah, build walls. 0.97

01:10:09.000 Absolutely.

01:10:10.000 Go ahead.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:10:12.000 Yeah, I think that's accurate in terms of.

01:10:16.000 I don't think anybody who sees what's going on has a problem with Jews in themselves.

01:10:20.000 This is a big thing I fight on my own channel with people in the live chat, people who are a little bit more out there who have it out like. 0.95

01:10:27.000 Well, Jewish people are bad in themselves, which I've never had a problem with. 1.00

01:10:30.000 That doesn't mean I don't see that there's an overrepresentation of media and maybe they exert an undue influence on foreign policy or whatever. 1.00

01:10:37.000 But to say that a person in and of themselves is, there's something wrong with that.

01:10:43.000 I think you're right.

01:10:43.000 Everyone has a right to be a nationalist, everybody has a right to self determination.

01:10:50.000 So, yeah, and sometimes they point to certain Jewish scriptures and they sort of cherry pick them the same way that someone who's maybe like pro any religion would.

01:10:59.000 And it's like, it's sort of like they look at some of the, I can't remember what they're called, some of the Jewish rabbinical texts talk about, oh, you know, killing.

01:11:07.000 Yeah, kill non believers or whatever.

01:11:09.000 But then there are also texts like if you study Kabbalah, the mystic side of Judaism, it's extremely pacifistic in many ways. 0.95

01:11:15.000 It's sort of like the difference between some of the hadiths like the Sahih Muslim or the Sahih al Bukhari, the texts within Islam that are butcherous.

01:11:24.000 If you compare that though to like the Book of Alawite or something, it's not butcherous.

01:11:28.000 It's quite peace loving for the most part, which is why they want to get rid of Assad.

01:11:32.000 That's why they want to cast him off as a butcher, I think.

01:11:35.000 Right.

01:11:35.000 Yeah, true.

01:11:35.000 Yeah, very true.

01:11:36.000 Very true.

01:11:37.000 And let's see what other questions we have here in the live chat. 0.96

01:11:40.000 Great takes on Zionism. 0.69

01:11:43.000 I think that's one of those issues where there's a lot of overlap between the right and the left because I think it's, and for a lot of reasons, it's for different reasons that they oppose Zionism.

01:11:55.000 And I think it's kind of curious, though, how you would say, well, it's against imperialism.

01:11:59.000 I think a lot of right wing people come at it from a similar angle, ironically, where it didn't necessarily used to be like that before.

01:12:07.000 A lot of people are just talking about the JF and Worski thing.

01:12:10.000 Apparently, this is real that JF and Worski are done.

01:12:14.000 They're finished.

01:12:15.000 I'll have to contact them separately then and talk to them, see what I can do.

01:12:21.000 I'm going to check Twitter real quick and we'll see if we can get the latest development here.

01:12:26.000 You should get JF on as your co host and I'll go and co host with Andy.

01:12:30.000 You get Andy, I'll get to the next one. 0.97

01:12:32.000 We'll have an expanded feud. 0.98

01:12:33.000 It'll turn into a war. 0.97

01:12:35.000 That's good. 0.99

01:12:35.000 No, I like that. 0.99

01:12:36.000 It'll be Avengers.

01:12:38.000 It'll be Avengers Civil War.

01:12:40.000 We can.

01:12:41.000 I'm saying we need to be the cutlery coalition because you've got like the knife meme, I've got the spoon meme, but we need to find a fork somewhere in there.

01:12:49.000 So that's good.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, a new coalition has to rise.

01:12:52.000 Maybe maybe Baked Alaska will team up with somebody and they'll be the uh oh, I guess uh, I guess JF is streaming right now.

01:13:01.000 Quitting War, oh god, live is streaming.

01:13:03.000 Oh, and that's where I'm gonna be.

01:13:07.000 Yeah, I wondered why a few people stopped watching here.

01:13:09.000 I guess they didn't want to be on multiple streams.

01:13:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:13.000 So let's see.

01:13:13.000 I guess, yeah, they got like 2,000 people.

01:13:16.000 I guess, is Andy doing a stream as well?

01:13:21.000 He's probably still doing his show at this point.

01:13:24.000 I think he goes for hours.

01:13:26.000 He's a hot commodity then.

01:13:27.000 We're going to have to get him.

01:13:28.000 We're going to have to get him for America first because I got to say, me and JF really gel.

01:13:33.000 I think he's a great talent.

01:13:36.000 Yeah.

01:13:37.000 See, that's the thing.

01:13:38.000 I like both of them in their own way.

01:13:39.000 So I don't get into the thick of like any.

01:13:42.000 Personal drama between them.

01:13:44.000 It's like people wanted to drag me into the Baked Alaska stuff.

01:13:46.000 I'm like, I don't have a problem with anyone involved here.

01:13:49.000 I don't even know 100% about the issue.

01:13:52.000 I'm not going to get into it.

01:13:53.000 It's like, I would prefer to remain professional regarding all these things.

01:13:57.000 Yeah.

01:13:58.000 Like, imagine that some degree of professionalism, right?

01:13:58.000 Yeah.

01:14:01.000 Yeah.

01:14:02.000 Imagine not making enemies before you know all the facts.

01:14:05.000 You know, meanwhile, they wanted me to just come out.

01:14:08.000 Somebody sent me the audio where Baked Alaska had mentioned me.

01:14:11.000 And it's like, If I had just listened to that person sending me the audio, I would have assumed that Baked Alaska was trying to like down my channel or something.

01:14:19.000 Instead, like a normal sane person, I checked with him, talked to him, and realized that it was basically a misunderstanding. 0.87

01:14:27.000 But I could have just gone completely ape shit, like some people apparently did. 0.98

01:14:30.000 It would have been a problem, I think. 0.99

01:14:33.000 Yeah.

01:14:34.000 And this is such a problem.

01:14:36.000 It was a big deal with Baked, where I got this.

01:14:38.000 I know exactly what you mean because I got the same thing, which was people, Nick, you need to disavow Baked.

01:14:43.000 You need to do that.

01:14:45.000 And how much headache would be spared if somebody just picked up the phone and said, Hey, Baked.

01:14:51.000 Can you explain?

01:14:51.000 I heard this.

01:14:52.000 You know, there's all these rumors about baked doxing somebody, baked doing this, doing that.

01:14:57.000 And then how much of this headache would we have gotten rid of if Andy Worski or JF, you know, whatever, not to name names or blame anybody, but if we could just maintain some degree of professionalism in public and then in private pick up the phone and say, what's going on, big guy?

01:15:14.000 Because of our collective power now on the internet, maybe we should have little red telephones that all connect to one another, like a nuclear hotline, so that we can solve these diplomatic differences.

01:15:25.000 More easily.

01:15:26.000 I mean that in a slightly unironic manner.

01:15:29.000 We should probably have a closed off website that can connect us all more easily, those that are major content creators.

01:15:36.000 It's not a joke.

01:15:37.000 We should have it in the America First headquarters.

01:15:39.000 It'll be like clocks on all the different walls, you know, like the baked Alaska clock, the Worski clock, the phones.

01:15:46.000 Yeah.

01:15:47.000 But, you know, there's a war room board, a big board.

01:15:50.000 That's right.

01:15:51.000 A Doctor Strangelove portrait.

01:15:54.000 Yeah, like targets everywhere.

01:15:56.000 No, but it's true.

01:15:56.000 I mean, there has to be some better communication, I think, with this network.

01:16:01.000 Because we have a very strong network between the Bloodsports participants.

01:16:05.000 It's funny how the Bloodsports thing really brought all of these dissident personalities into some kind of confederation.

01:16:14.000 Not obviously an organized thing, but it put them all under one umbrella of a category.

01:16:19.000 Whereas before, it was everyone kind of out there doing their own thing.

01:16:23.000 I think in the future, we may look back on Worski as maybe.

01:16:27.000 Some kind of primordial framework for some kind of an alliance.

01:16:31.000 I think if you compare that to what the conservatives have, to what the liberals have, it might not be a bad idea to start institutionalizing that in some way or at least building up some kind of infrastructure for that network because I think we should cross pollinate each other, share each other's content, and that kind of thing.

01:16:51.000 I think that'd be good for everybody involved and most of all for the principles we stand for.

01:16:55.000 And Nick, apparently JF has actually seen your message.

01:16:58.000 He's inviting you on the show.

01:17:00.000 Oh, really?

01:17:01.000 He's inviting me on the show.

01:17:02.000 He wants you to go on his live stream.

01:17:04.000 So, if you have to do that, I should probably message Worski, too.

01:17:08.000 I like it.

01:17:09.000 I like it.

01:17:09.000 Let's get to the bottom of this.

01:17:11.000 This is good.

01:17:12.000 Me and Styx were deployed.

01:17:14.000 We are the crisis team.

01:17:16.000 We're going on the scene.

01:17:18.000 Don't worry, everyone.

01:17:19.000 We will negotiate.

01:17:20.000 We will make a great deal for our country, Styx.

01:17:23.000 Yeah.

01:17:24.000 All right.

01:17:26.000 So, then I guess I'll take a few of these stream labs and then I'll jump on in like 10 minutes.

01:17:32.000 And maybe you want to jump on Worski?

01:17:33.000 I think we could do it.

01:17:34.000 Yeah, I'll message him too while you're reading this out.

01:17:38.000 So I'll take these super chats.

01:17:38.000 All right, all right.

01:17:39.000 Let's see.

01:17:40.000 We've got TH who says, Oh, no, we read that one already.

01:17:45.000 Compliant citizen is asking me about Alfie Evans.

01:17:48.000 He says, Not an American issue, but a controversy from the Catholic Church perspective.

01:17:53.000 I appreciate one has to be mindful not to utilize a family's pain for political reasons, but I'm troubled by this case.

01:17:59.000 Well, actually, we talked about this on the show two days ago, and I think it was in the second half of the show about Alfie Evans.

01:18:07.000 It's basically a perversion of socialized medicine.

01:18:09.000 I mean, the idea was nobody should go sick, and they've turned it into we have to decide who gets health care and who doesn't because there's scarce resources and a lot of people who want it.

01:18:21.000 So it's a very perverse consequence of government power of the state and a drastic overstep.

01:18:27.000 I don't think any of them, even the left wing people, agree that the state should decide who lives and who dies, who gets care, who doesn't.

01:18:35.000 It's an unfortunate thing.

01:18:37.000 I think states shouldn't be allowed to make any major decisions because they're usually terrible at it.

01:18:44.000 Yeah, about anything, right?

01:18:45.000 War, economics.

01:18:46.000 I mean, name one good thing the government's done.

01:18:48.000 Constantine says.

01:18:49.000 I think JF, I think actually wants me aboard too and just sent me a link.

01:18:53.000 Oh, excellent.

01:18:54.000 We might end up on there at the same time.

01:18:56.000 You want to jump on there now and I'll meet you over there in like a minute or two?

01:19:01.000 Yeah, if there's no questions for me, I could do that.

01:19:03.000 Yeah.

01:19:04.000 All right.

01:19:04.000 Well, let me check real quick.

01:19:06.000 We've been a little light on the super chats because they're all watching.

01:19:10.000 It's a weird night tonight, I think.

01:19:13.000 All right.

01:19:13.000 Well, it looks like those are all of our super chats, so I'll just meet you on over there.

01:19:16.000 All right.

01:19:17.000 I'll talk to you in a few minutes.

01:19:17.000 All right.

01:19:19.000 All right.

01:19:19.000 Great.

01:19:19.000 Thanks so much.

01:19:20.000 I'm going to get some more drink first.

01:19:22.000 Thanks so much for coming on.

01:19:22.000 Yeah.

01:19:23.000 It was great to have you.

01:19:24.000 And I guess we'll just wrap it up real quick here.

01:19:26.000 And then I'll, for people watching this show, you know, in the future.

01:19:30.000 But thanks for coming on.

01:19:31.000 Great to have you.

01:19:32.000 We should do it again sometime.

01:19:33.000 I really enjoyed our talk here.

01:19:35.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:19:35.000 And peace out.

01:19:37.000 Take it easy, big guy.

01:19:37.000 All right.

01:19:38.000 See you later.

01:19:40.000 All right.

01:19:40.000 Bye bye.

01:19:41.000 And a great talk with my friend Stix.

01:19:44.000 I thought that was a great conversation.

01:19:45.000 Very fun, very light.

01:19:47.000 And I think people enjoy it.

01:19:48.000 He's obviously a very intelligent guy, and we don't agree on the religious stuff.

01:19:54.000 But part of being in politics is emphasizing what brings us together as opposed to what separates us. 1.00

01:20:00.000 That sounds kind of gay, admittedly, but it's true. 0.87

01:20:02.000 And I think those are the alliances that we need to forge moving forward. 0.97

01:20:06.000 So, a solid guy.

01:20:08.000 And these are the kinds of left wing people Yusuf, Sticks.

01:20:11.000 This is the new coalition of the people versus the globalists.

01:20:15.000 So, a fun talk with Sticks.

01:20:17.000 We'll have to get him on again sometime.

01:20:18.000 I know people are asking for it for a long time.

01:20:21.000 We're going to do these super chats real quick, and then I'm going to race over to JF and we'll have some fun.

01:20:26.000 It's a pretty chaotic night, right?

01:20:28.000 And then I got to pack.

01:20:29.000 I got to get ready for American Renaissance.

01:20:32.000 So much content, so little time, but that's how things go, right?

01:20:37.000 Let's see.

01:20:38.000 Constantine says, Our country has been under hostile occupation since the days of Wilson. 0.95

01:20:43.000 It's true. 0.84

01:20:43.000 Go back to Louis Brandeis and the Balfour Declaration. 0.84

01:20:48.000 True.

01:20:49.000 It checks out.

01:20:50.000 Mochi says, Nick, you need to start brushing up on your theology.

01:20:53.000 I love when people tell me what I should do.

01:20:55.000 I. Nothing I love more than people telling me you should do this, you should do that.

01:21:00.000 You got to, my favorite.

01:21:03.000 I know you're a layman and not required to know as much, but you are one of the big faces of Catholicism on YouTube.

01:21:09.000 Get on Jay Dyer's level, but the Catholic version.

01:21:11.000 I'm trying, big guy, but I'm also trying to put out political content.

01:21:15.000 You know, I had to decide at a certain point to focus and where I was going to put my energy because I tried for a little while to do the Catholic thing and I debated sticks on religion.

01:21:25.000 I went on Jay Dyer and debated him about orthodoxy.

01:21:28.000 And it's clear, I'm not an expert.

01:21:29.000 I never pretended to be an expert.

01:21:31.000 Even when I came on Jay Dyer, people were so nasty.

01:21:33.000 They were like, Nick can't even argue with this guy who's been studying this subject his whole adult life and has a degree in it.

01:21:41.000 Whoa, you know, that's crazy. 0.98

01:21:42.000 I came on saying, I'm not an expert, but this is why I disagree with the Orthodox Church. 0.99

01:21:48.000 But I made a decision after that debate, and, you know, it didn't go as well as I would have planned. 0.54

01:21:53.000 I still think I held my own, but I made a decision that you can't really be an expert in everything, you know, and.

01:22:00.000 Of course, I'm always studying up on everything.

01:22:03.000 I'm studying up on all the areas where I have an interest, but I do show about politics.

01:22:07.000 My expertise is politics.

01:22:09.000 And I think I'd be remiss if I was trying to be a jack of all trades and then I let the political content suffer in the meantime.

01:22:17.000 So I've been doing the theological stuff.

01:22:19.000 Admittedly, it's not my wheelhouse.

01:22:21.000 I'm much stronger, I think, on politics.

01:22:23.000 It comes much more naturally to me, much more intuitive.

01:22:26.000 I read Aquinas and I swear to God I put a hole in the wall every time because I'm reading Ed Fieser try and explain it about all these words and, you know, It's just such a headache, and I'm reading through it.

01:22:40.000 I like it, it's very dense, it's very technical in terms of the language, and it's frustrating to say the least.

01:22:48.000 So, but I'm working on it, and I'm working on it.

01:22:50.000 We got to pray for the wisdom to understand the scholastic tradition very difficult stuff, but we're getting there.

01:22:57.000 And we'll get to our super chats here.

01:23:00.000 Let's see, what do we got?

01:23:04.000 Simon Scola says, I won't be able to see you at Amran because of some health issues.

01:23:09.000 But good luck on your speech.

01:23:10.000 It'll probably be the best one there, Nicker for Life.

01:23:13.000 Appreciate you, big man.

01:23:14.000 Really appreciate it.

01:23:16.000 Much love.

01:23:16.000 And we wish you all the best with your health issues.

01:23:19.000 I know I saw you had a surgery recently, so, and that turned out, I don't know, you survived it, but you said it didn't go very well in terms of, didn't fix the problem.

01:23:29.000 But we wish you the best.

01:23:31.000 Hope you're doing well, my friend.

01:23:33.000 Brian W. says So when does the evisceration of sticks by Nick the Knife Wentus in this ruthless debate begin?

01:23:39.000 It's advertised clearly.

01:23:40.000 Yeah, not quite, right?

01:23:42.000 But, uh, I think I totally slashed him up, right?

01:23:46.000 Nationalist youth.

01:23:47.000 Thoughts on alt right slash nationalist youth?

01:23:50.000 Also, shout out to Isaiah.

01:23:52.000 He's a good friend.

01:23:52.000 I don't know who Isaiah is.

01:23:54.000 And the alt right, I think, is no good in terms of its viability.

01:23:59.000 You know, like I said, I know a lot of people who identify as alt right, and I have respect for them, but I don't consider myself alt right, and I don't see it as being viable.

01:24:08.000 I hope they prove me wrong, or maybe they will.

01:24:10.000 I don't know, but we'll see.

01:24:12.000 I don't know what the nationalist youth is either, but.

01:24:16.000 But I think we should have a more nationalist youth.

01:24:18.000 I don't know the organization, but I think that's a good motive. 0.56

01:24:22.000 National Remnant, should we be concerned that Kanye took that selfie with Lior Cohen? 0.52

01:24:28.000 No, he's pretty woke about things.

01:24:31.000 You can look at his lyrics, you could look at things he said in the past.

01:24:34.000 I think we could be rest assured.

01:24:37.000 Paul Zarr, if you like Nick's content, throw him a few bucks.

01:24:40.000 A little from all of us can fund him.

01:24:41.000 Sorry, Maker Support screwed you, Nick.

01:24:43.000 Yeah, I would appreciate that.

01:24:45.000 The maker support situation is ongoing.

01:24:48.000 I'm not telling people to pull just yet.

01:24:50.000 Keep your pledges in because we're still doing content on there.

01:24:52.000 But it's just so frustrating that you're trying to do your own thing and it's immensely more difficult than just getting a job.

01:25:00.000 I don't think people understand this.

01:25:02.000 People who have a job, I don't think they understand that when you're like self employed or you do your own thing, it's not like you're just fun and games all the time.

01:25:10.000 Oh, yeah, I get to make my own hours.

01:25:12.000 I get to, you know, no bedtime and all that.

01:25:15.000 And granted, I still do that.

01:25:16.000 You know, I don't sleep very much.

01:25:17.000 I. Play some Fortnite.

01:25:18.000 I'm known to play Fortnite on occasion, but when you're doing your own thing, it's much more difficult because there's so much more responsibility.

01:25:26.000 If you're not on top of it every day, all the time, and actively looking into things, the money's just not guaranteed.

01:25:34.000 You can't make a living.

01:25:35.000 Whereas if you're employed, it's like you clock in, you clock out, you do your job, you go home, and whatever.

01:25:42.000 Whereas if you're running the show, there's just so much more insecure.

01:25:45.000 And obviously, in this line of work, it's even worse where I got to the point where I was making probably like double what I would be making if I were doing a minimum wage job.

01:25:55.000 And we got the Super Chat thing, and the Streamlabs is a great alternative.

01:25:59.000 And the maker support came around.

01:26:00.000 That was a blessing.

01:26:01.000 And now they're just beating the hell out of me with this.

01:26:04.000 It's very stressful.

01:26:06.000 So we appreciate the support.

01:26:08.000 Happy Boy says, I love you, Nick.

01:26:11.000 Love you too.

01:26:11.000 What do you say about the movement becoming so anti Christian with the likes of Weave?

01:26:16.000 I haven't seen Weave be very anti Christian, but I have a big problem with the anti Christian elements at large.

01:26:21.000 We have to be Christian.

01:26:22.000 We have to be religious.

01:26:24.000 If you are not in touch with God, if you're not in communion with the higher power, you've lost it.

01:26:30.000 Mike Healy, Nick, did you watch the Diamond and Silk Congressional Hearing?

01:26:34.000 If you haven't, I'd highly recommend you do.

01:26:36.000 Great content.

01:26:37.000 Haven't seen it, but I will watch that.

01:26:41.000 Unhyphenated American says, Worski Live is dead.

01:26:45.000 Long live America first. 0.96

01:26:47.000 I have a little frog in my throat.

01:26:50.000 I hate to say this, but I kind of saw this coming.

01:26:53.000 People would say, Nick, what are we going to do?

01:26:56.000 You got to change your time schedule because Worski Live is at 7, whatever.

01:27:00.000 And I said, it's kind of like the flash in the pan.

01:27:03.000 It's an exciting thing, it's the new kid on the block, but wait a little bit of time.

01:27:08.000 And that's the thing.

01:27:09.000 These trends come and go.

01:27:11.000 Baked Alaska, Worski. 0.67

01:27:13.000 And not diss to them.

01:27:14.000 I don't want them to be personally offended by this, but America First is always there.

01:27:20.000 It's consistent.

01:27:21.000 It's been here for a year.

01:27:22.000 It's probably the longest running property in terms of live streaming for the dissident right that's running.

01:27:29.000 I'm very proud of what we've done here.

01:27:30.000 It's been consistent.

01:27:32.000 The quality, I think, has gotten better to a point where it's been consistently good.

01:27:36.000 And, you know, that's just how it goes.

01:27:40.000 I'm a little, you know, a little smug.

01:27:41.000 We're feeling very smug.

01:27:44.000 About that, that America First does last longer.

01:27:48.000 It's just a proven fact.

01:27:51.000 We're like the old stone castle that stands for centuries.

01:27:55.000 And they're the McMansion.

01:27:57.000 I kind of lifted that from House of Cards, but it's apropos.

01:28:00.000 American Rebel, put your Streamlabs link in the description, Nick.

01:28:04.000 All right, I will.

01:28:05.000 Notorious Pepe, Sticks plus Nick plus JF, do a show together once or twice a week.

01:28:10.000 We may do that.

01:28:12.000 Philip J. Fry, Nick, just discovered you and James.

01:28:14.000 I'm sorry you guys fell out.

01:28:15.000 You seemed like a good power duo.

01:28:18.000 Hope you can reconcile someday.

01:28:19.000 No more brother wars.

01:28:20.000 Use this money to get that second monitor.

01:28:22.000 I may do that.

01:28:23.000 And yeah, it was a good alliance while it lasted, but you have to have good people.

01:28:28.000 And I think that was the lesson I learned.

01:28:30.000 If the people are not solid, if you don't vet them, if you don't know them, it's a mistake to go into business with them.

01:28:37.000 And I was pretty much blasted for that on all fronts.

01:28:40.000 Jose Antonio, love to have sticks on the show.

01:28:43.000 Found Nick through the religious debate and now support Nick 100%.

01:28:47.000 Lost my faith, but always America first. 0.94

01:28:49.000 Well, sorry to hear that, but glad you enjoy the show.

01:28:52.000 Aiden, Andy, and JF are done.

01:28:54.000 Time for Nick and JF.

01:28:55.000 People say Nick and JF, Nick and JF.

01:28:58.000 And one last one from Isaiah who says, What can the youth do to help the movement?

01:29:01.000 I'm a Latino and want to be able to do more for the Yan First ideology.

01:29:05.000 Also, shout out to nationalist youth.

01:29:07.000 What you can do is very simple go to church, get a job, start a family, have kids.

01:29:13.000 It's not hard.

01:29:14.000 People have it in their heads that you have to be marching in the streets and beating the hell out of commies.

01:29:20.000 The most subversive thing that we could do right now, the most viable thing, Be a productive member of society.

01:29:26.000 Be somebody that the globalists would fear.

01:29:29.000 Globalists aren't afraid of an unemployable, unemployed loser with no job who goes and they march on the streets and they don't have a family and they're socially ostracized and they're weird.

01:29:41.000 They would be terrified if, like, people who have a big family and they're community members and they're leaders in their community and they have lots of kids and they're upstanding people, they'd be terrified if lots of people like that started to support.

01:29:56.000 What the ralliers support.

01:29:57.000 So do that.

01:29:58.000 If you want more, especially for the youth, get involved on campus.

01:30:02.000 Get involved in Young Americans for Liberty, Young Americans Foundation, Young Americans for Freedom, College Republicans, whatever it is, infiltrate at the campus level.

01:30:10.000 If you're there or older, volunteer for your local Republican Party.

01:30:15.000 Go to the monthly meetings.

01:30:16.000 Go research whatever organization they have at the county level.

01:30:20.000 Start showing up to the meetings.

01:30:21.000 Start shaking hands.

01:30:22.000 Get to know people.

01:30:24.000 Just familiarize yourself with the process and the people there.

01:30:27.000 Climb the ranks.

01:30:28.000 It's easier than you think.

01:30:29.000 All politics is local.

01:30:30.000 Lastly, get involved in a campaign.

01:30:32.000 It's an election year, 2018.

01:30:34.000 I don't care if you are on board with the Republican 100%.

01:30:38.000 They're better than the Democrats.

01:30:39.000 Get involved with a congressional campaign, a Senate campaign, a governor's campaign.

01:30:44.000 You get experience doing this kind of thing.

01:30:46.000 Looks good on a resume.

01:30:47.000 You build your network in terms of connections, people who campaign, people who are in politics. 1.00

01:30:53.000 There's literally nothing that could go wrong with doing those three things, as opposed to the tremendous costs of face doxing at one of these retard marches. 1.00

01:31:01.000 So those are. 0.98

01:31:04.000 You know, you got to build a solid foundation, be a good person.

01:31:06.000 But if you want political activism, those three ways you can't go wrong.

01:31:10.000 And I hope that helps.

01:31:11.000 But those are all our super chats in our stream labs.

01:31:14.000 We want to get into JF.

01:31:15.000 So we're going to call it a show.

01:31:17.000 It's been a fun time, been kind of hectic, lots of things going on.

01:31:21.000 But we will see you next week.

01:31:22.000 I won't be here tomorrow.

01:31:23.000 I'll be at American Renaissance giving a speech with my friend Jared Taylor, Uncle Jared.

01:31:30.000 He's not really my uncle, but, you know, he's like the wise.

01:31:34.000 Elder of the movement and a great man.

01:31:36.000 And so I'll be there this weekend, so no show tomorrow.

01:31:38.000 So we'll see you, I guess, on Monday then.

01:31:40.000 We did a big 2018 Election HQ episode today.

01:31:44.000 So if you're a premium member, check that out on Maker Support.

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01:32:16.000 Folks, we've seen it all.

01:32:17.000 Raised Right, The Dino Show, the Baked Alaska streams, the Warski streams, and we're just undefeated.

01:32:26.000 Our biggest competitor, maybe, is Chill Hop 24 hour lo fi hip hop beats to study and relax to.

01:32:36.000 That's the next one we have to take out.

01:32:38.000 That's the next one that has to go.

01:32:40.000 I kid.

01:32:40.000 I listen to that all the time.

01:32:42.000 But we are smug as hell tonight.

01:32:45.000 But we'll see you on Monday.

01:32:47.000 Until then, have a great.

01:32:49.000 Oh, we forgot to.

01:32:50.000 Did I thank?

01:32:51.000 Well, thanks to everybody for watching.

01:32:52.000 Did I do that?

01:32:53.000 Thanks to the Streamlabs donors, the Super Chatters, the Periscope people, and of course, the Premium members.

01:32:59.000 We appreciate y'all.

01:33:00.000 And now, we'll see you on Monday.

01:33:03.000 Until then, have a great rest of your weekend and long weekend because I won't be here on Friday.

01:33:07.000 And have a great rest of your evening.

01:33:09.000 We'll see you on Monday and we'll see you on JF right now.

01:33:12.000 Until then.

01:33:13.000 Enjoy yourself.

01:33:18.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

01:33:25.000 It's going to be only America first.

01:33:28.000 America first. 0.99

01:33:30.000 The American people will come first once again.

01:33:36.000 With respect, the respect

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - April 26, 2018

The Cutlery Coalition feat. Styx | America First Ep. 153

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