00:17:10.000We had some activism take place, a lot of content, right?
00:17:13.000I'm sure we brought a lot of people to our side.
00:17:14.000But toward the end of fall, I think it was in October, a few Groypers got together at, I believe it was a college in Colorado.
00:17:23.000That was the first real front, the first real battle in the Groyper War.
00:17:27.000And they asked Charlie Kirk some tough questions about a particular historical event and immigration and demographics.
00:17:34.000And now we've seen things like this in the past.
00:17:36.000This isn't the first time that Charlie Kirk and other conservatism ink figures have been subjected to difficult questions during these QA sessions.
00:17:44.000However, for whatever reason, this one, this event, this time set off a chain reaction.
00:17:50.000You had Groypers who went out, dissidents who went out at basically every stop, every subsequent stop.
00:17:58.000Every event, every subsequent event only had more and more people.
00:18:02.000All kinds of questions about immigration, demographics, foreign policy, economics.
00:18:06.000Were asked, and you could really tell that the establishment didn't like this, right?
00:18:10.000It was very obvious that our people, people in the dissident right, America Firsters, were very unhappy, right?
00:18:16.000There wasn't, you know, most of the questions were fairly civil, but there was a sense of grievance, and we absolutely have the right to be aggrieved because our ideas are shut out, we are silenced, we are deplatformed, and as much as Conservatism Inc. claims to value the free market of ideas, free speech, all of these things, it's very obvious that at the end of the day, what really matters to them is control.
00:18:39.000So, I think it's very important that we understand just exactly what Conservatism Inc. is.
00:18:44.000As the name suggests, it's somewhat of a racket.
00:18:47.000Conservatism Inc. is not about the truth.
00:18:54.000At the end of the day, Conservatism Inc. is a racket.
00:18:57.000It is a movement that is propped up by donor money, it exists to serve globalist interests.
00:19:04.000And, you know, America at this point in time, and Western civilization overall at this point in time, can be rightfully defined as Orwellian.
00:19:20.000And that means that the preservation of the status quo under an Orwellian society is dependent upon the suppression of the truth.
00:19:28.000And we see that nowhere better than in Conservatism Inc.
00:19:32.000Again, Charlie Kirk says that when I asked my question to Charlie Kirk at OSU, I began framing the question saying that I was banned from CPAC.
00:19:42.000And multiple times he said, I didn't ban you from this event, though.
00:19:45.000No, but by his own admission, he didn't know who I was then.
00:19:48.000After finding out who I was, he proceeded to fearmonger about me and ban me from SAS, SAS, rather.
00:19:54.000You know, they claimed, they banned me yesterday, they claimed that they're going to be refunding my $75, but until they do, Charlie Kirk personally owes me $75.
00:20:04.000And I'm going to get it, one way or the other.
00:20:06.000But the point is that, yes, so globalism, globalism at the end of the day needs to be understood as the main threat.
00:20:13.000When we define the enemy as the left, as socialism, As one of these other, you know, some of these other isms, and we see it only from the right, then, you know, that perspective occludes the threat on the right.
00:20:24.000During the election, one of the best parts of the 2016 election was the delegitimization of some parts of Conservatism Inc., right?
00:20:35.000National Review, in particular, was thoroughly routed.
00:20:37.000They had to shut down their comment sections.
00:20:39.000Many of their, you know, main pundits were totally disgraced, right?
00:20:44.000But what happened after the 2016 election is you had the, you know, people like Charlie Kirk.
00:20:49.000Organizations like TVUSA, that by the way, adamantly opposed Donald Trump during up right up until the moment he got the nomination, at which point they jumped on the bandwagon out of reasons of pure self preservation and self interest.
00:21:00.000Well, these people who were formerly never Trumpers, who were formerly tweeting out things as Charlie Kirk did, calling Donald Trump a pervert, saying that he's like not a real family man, right?
00:21:09.000It was a little bit more than, you know, mere ideological disagreements as he would like you, you know, he would have you believe.
00:21:14.000But the point is that these guys jumped on the Trump train afterwards and they've played a profound role in shaping the Trump administration thus far.
00:21:21.000And I think the real spirit of 2016 is best exemplified in the America First movement.
00:21:26.000We are the ones who understand that something has gone terribly wrong in the administration.
00:21:31.000And it's not just something that's limited to Groypers, right, at this point.
00:21:35.000Anyone who is a sincere immigration patriot understands that something has gone terribly wrong.
00:21:40.000And I think that the dissident right, you know, within which the America First movement is absolutely included, needs to, above all else, just diagnose what went wrong with the first term of Donald Trump's presidency.
00:21:52.000And there's much that we could discuss, and that's not the main reason that we're here tonight, but I think the main takeaway really is that Donald Trump staffed his administration with the wrong people.
00:22:02.000He had the wrong people whispering into his ear.
00:22:04.000And Conservatism Inc. plays a big, deserves quite a bit of blame for that.
00:22:08.000Now, at the end of the day, these are people that Trump invited in.
00:22:10.000No one forced him at gunpoint, as far as we know, to clown around with Charlie Kirk and invite Gary Cohen and other establishment insiders into his administration.
00:22:20.000In some cases, people who were never Trumpers up through 2017, right?
00:22:25.000Everyone knows that many, many Trump loyalists were passed over and it was a mess.
00:22:32.000But the point is, we now understand that it is not just national review online, not just the people that have been against Trump since the beginning.
00:22:40.000No, it's that many people who have hitched their wagons to the Trump train are actually not America first.
00:22:46.000They don't represent the spirit of 2016.
00:22:49.000And Charlie Kirk is a perfect example of this, right?
00:22:53.000Up until the Groyper War, he was talking about stapling green cards to diplomas, which is something that prior to To hearing him say that, I only really heard from neoliberals on the left, Democrats, and so forth, right?
00:23:04.000People like Hillary Clinton, she said that.
00:23:08.000But as a result of repeated groiping, shall we say, Charlie Kirk has been forced to concede that actually the people that he has smeared so maliciously and unfairly as neo Nazis and white supremacists and whatever else, actually these people were right about quite a bit.
00:23:33.000We understand that you are just doing that out of self preservation.
00:23:37.000We know that as soon as Donald Trump gets out of office, you are going to promote, you're going to promote, you know, Marco Rubio or Dan Crenshaw or Nikki Haley.
00:23:46.000And we in America First are going to do everything that we can to ensure that that does not happen.
00:23:50.000Because at this point, it's less a battle about what happens in 2020 and more a battle for what happens after Trump.
00:23:55.000The only chance for America to be saved is if populism is able to move beyond Trumpism, is if someone comes along in 2024 and carries the mantle.
00:24:06.000Of nationalism strikes down globalism and is able to get elected and actually make things happen once he gets in office.
00:24:13.000We again understand that something has gone terribly wrong in the Trump administration.
00:24:17.000Whereas Charlie Kirk and the others in Conservatism Inc., who support the president, would have you believe that everything's great, right?
00:24:22.000We've seen the stock numbers and the economy is doing better than ever.
00:24:26.000And perhaps more important than anything else, we've seen that black unemployment rates are lower than ever before.
00:24:33.000But I think we in the dissident right are above all else, we are truth tellers, right?
00:24:38.000We are the ones who dare to point out that the emperor wears no clothes, that the establishment, that this regime is founded upon lies.
00:24:45.000And as a result of that, of course, the system has to keep people in line.
00:24:49.000They will go after your livelihood, they'll go after your families, and that happens on the right as well.
00:24:55.000I'm reminded of Dan Crenshaw saying that the people in the audience at ASU who are asking him tough questions about globalism, mass immigration, our relationship with Israel, were, you know, what he told them, you're going to regret this later on, right?
00:25:08.000Because this is all going to be on the internet, and someday in the future, right, someone could find out who you are.
00:25:13.000So if you're right of center and you're not explicitly opposed, To this system of soft totalitarianism that is an integral part of globalism, then you're no ally of ours, and in fact, you are an enemy of the best interests of America.
00:25:27.000And that is the case for many of these globalists on the right.
00:25:30.000Now, we in the dissident right understand a number of dissident truths.
00:25:36.000We understand that there are a number of controversial truths that are being suppressed by both the left wing and the right wing parts of the establishment.
00:25:44.000So, one of the main ones that we hit on is the reality of demographics.
00:25:48.000There are many things that we can discuss with regard to demographics, right?
00:25:51.000We could talk about Robert Putnam's research that showed that in increasingly ethnic diverse societies, there's only lower levels of trust, right?
00:26:01.000You know, in this academic study that he published where he realized all this stuff, it's called the Pluribus Unum, and I'd highly recommend all of you read it.
00:26:07.000He did, you know, he's talking about all of these downsides to diversity.
00:26:11.000He says, well, you know, the trade off is good because we have better restaurants.
00:26:15.000So when you get to the point where even in academic studies, 40 page academic papers done by Harvard sociologists, Are citing better food, restaurant variety as a reason to keep bringing in millions and millions of people from wildly different parts of the world.
00:26:30.000I think it's pretty safe to say that there aren't really any good faith, non cynical arguments for mass immigration to be made.
00:26:36.000Now, one of the main things we discuss when we're talking about demographics is the effect that mass immigration from non Western countries is having on our political institutions.
00:26:48.000Now, we should point out that we have broader aims for civilization and for America in particular than just ensuring that.
00:26:54.000The GOP is able to keep winning elections, right?
00:26:56.000We don't want the Democrats to gain a permanent majority, permanent electoral majority, for the simple fact of the matter that it's obvious that we're not going to see any real change on the issues that we care about from the left.
00:27:07.000Now, again, you know, I'm not losing sleep overnight because mass immigration means, you know, Jeb Bush isn't going to be able to get elected in 2024.
00:27:14.000But at the bare minimum, it's very obvious that we're not going to see any change on the national level from anyone outside of the Republican Party.
00:27:20.000It's going to be someone like Donald Trump who comes along and acts contra the will of the GOP establishment, right?
00:27:31.000Black people, despite these 2% gains that Trump has made with them, continue to vote roughly 90% for the Democratic Party.
00:27:38.000They've voted that way for years and years, many election cycles.
00:27:42.000And what conservatives, mainstream conservatives, would say is well, we just haven't sold it well enough.
00:27:47.000We just haven't gone into these communities and told them to read John Locke, talked about Edmund Burke to them or something of that sort.
00:27:54.000Well, I think we all understand that there are deep rooted cultural, racial, And social reasons why minorities are not attracted to the kind of conservative values that are promoted by the GOP establishment.
00:28:08.000And there are many to get into, but I think at the end of the day, the numbers don't lie, right?
00:28:12.000Trump was not the first Republican politician to come along and pander to minorities.
00:28:17.000George W. Bush did that in, I believe it was his first 2000 run.
00:28:22.000St. Francis discusses this in Ethnopolitics, which is a must read for anyone interested in demographics and the effect that it's happening on our political.
00:28:29.000Institutions, our political establishment overall.
00:28:31.000But the point is that, you know, George Bush, even back then, right, even 20 years ago, was talking about how we need to, we're praising diversity.
00:28:38.000Ah, yes, we're having a new country and it's going to be so great.
00:28:42.000Well, you know, you didn't see many substantial gains there.
00:28:46.000And, you know, for all that we heard about Blexit between 2016 and midterms, there was virtually no, you know, there were no substantial gains made in the black vote between them.
00:28:57.000So at some point, you just have to be honest and say that it's not working, right?
00:29:01.000The policies that we're advocating for, maybe they just don't appeal to large portions of the population, right?
00:29:29.000And I don't think if there are ethnically pure countries all around the world, I don't have any issue with that.
00:29:34.000Obviously, we can think of one relatively ethnically pure country in the Middle East that no one seems to be too bothered about maintaining its ethno religious identity.
00:29:42.000And I'm not someone who takes issue with that either.
00:29:46.000Things to be discussed with demographics.
00:29:47.000I mean, with regard to other populations, Hispanics continue to vote something like 65, 75% for the Democratic Party, Jews, roughly 75%, Asians, roughly 75%.
00:29:57.000And it's worth pointing out that, you know, Charlie Kirk claims to be fighting the culture war.
00:30:01.000He claims to be trying to defeat the left and to defeat globalism.
00:30:04.000But, you know, he'll say things like, as he did during the beginning of the Groeper War, he's like, you know what, Southeast Asian immigrants are great.
00:30:10.000They come over, they work great jobs, they love conservative values.
00:30:19.000There is a values discussion that needs to be had.
00:30:21.000But the first discussion really is just getting the facts out there.
00:30:24.000And the reason why the Groper War has been so successful is because we've been able to get facts out there that Conservatism Inc., including Charlie Kirk, don't even want to acknowledge.
00:30:33.000They want to inculcate their base against just pieces of data, essentially, let alone the values that can be established therefrom.
00:30:42.000Now, again, many other things to be said about demographics, but I think the important thing to keep in mind here is that Conservatism Inc. When these people get up there and they say something, when Charlie Kirk advocates for a policy, when Benny Johnson or Sebastian Gorka, when they're up there advocating for something, maybe they believe in it.
00:30:58.000But regardless of whether or not they actually believe in what they're saying, that's really beside the point because they have intricate webs of donors and handlers and connections.
00:31:07.000And they're not able to be free thinkers in the way that we are, right?
00:31:11.000But I can get up here and say basically anything that I want, right?
00:31:15.000I'm never going to be able to attract the wealthy, powerful, oligarchic donors that Charlie Kirk does.
00:31:20.000But that's just the price that you pay when you're actually trying to make.
00:31:24.000You know, the world a better place, and you're not creating an organization like he did that really just advocates for the interests of the ruling class.
00:31:31.000You know, I've done a lot of political advocacy, and it's all been within dissident contexts.
00:31:35.000There are many unique challenges to what I do, to what Nick does, and to what others do.
00:31:40.000But, you know, I was thinking about this the other day.
00:31:41.000Charlie Kirk created a brilliant idea.
00:31:45.000He was like, you know what, I'm going to create an organization that advocates for the interests of the people who have the most money and power in society, right?
00:31:52.000So much for, you know, the forgotten man, right?
00:31:54.000No, I'm going to advocate for Netflix.
00:32:00.000I mean, I kid you not, TPUSA has, I don't know if they do it anymore, maybe they've developed a bit of self awareness in recent years, but for a while they were waving around these signs on campuses that said, I heart Starbucks, I heart Netflix, I heart Amazon, right?
00:32:17.000And I think one of the main issues with Conservatism Inc., with the mainstream right, is that by focusing on socialism at the enemy, by focusing on leftism at the enemy, Again, it hides the issue to the right, and that issue is woke capital, right?
00:32:32.000The fact that they're waving around these signs advocating for corporations that hate them, corporations that only value them for the tax cuts that TPUSA might support.
00:32:43.000But at the end of the day, it's obvious that most of these major corporations are anti American.
00:32:48.000We're going to have to take state power, and only after that point will they fall in line.
00:32:54.000And these corporations, there are many arguments to be made.
00:32:56.000Many of them benefit from mass immigration, many of them benefit from having us be atomized, deracinated consumers.
00:33:03.000But at the same time, many of them are just kind of going with the flow, right?
00:33:05.000So, progressivism, the cultural shift left, the only factor there is not woke capital, but it is a very important one.
00:33:37.000And, you know, it worked out pretty well.
00:33:39.000But other than that, you know, they tried to shut down the QA session at, where was that, UCLA, right?
00:33:45.000You had Don Jr. on stage, Kimberly Guilfoyle.
00:33:48.000And I mean, that just really speaks volumes to what's going through their heads.
00:33:52.000When we're out here talking about demographic change, talking about identity, talking about, you know, just the cultural shift to the left, they do not want their people to hear it.
00:34:01.000What they've taken to now is they're not doing the live streams, right?
00:34:04.000For now, people are still able to live stream within the event.
00:34:08.000But they're chopping up, they're creating their own almost like thug life compilations of them responding very disingenuously to Groypers, not leaving out the context and just hoping that their followers, who many of them are well intentioned, are looking on Instagram and seeing a two minute clip of Charlie Kirk saying, disavow identity Europa or whatever else.
00:34:29.000And I should point out that Identity Europa doesn't exist at this point.
00:34:32.000That was an organization that I didn't found, but I did run, and we did nonviolent political activism advocating for things like.
00:34:39.000An end to the anti white agenda, an end to mass immigration.
00:34:41.000Again, we never called for an all white country.
00:34:43.000We never called for anything inhumane being done to people.
00:34:47.000But it should be pointed out that I am almost 100% clear that Charlie Kirk was getting his information on that from an Antifa blog, right?
00:34:54.000Based on some of the exact comments that he was making.
00:34:57.000And I think he did say, identify Yevropa at one point.
00:35:00.000That is actually an Antifa blog that totally exists to dox people in my organization.
00:35:05.000So that really says it all about where Charlie Kirk is getting his information from.
00:35:10.000And to wrap up, I want to discuss the issue of free speech with regard to us and how we relate to TPUSA and conservatism, incoherent.
00:35:20.000No one on our side has ever made the argument that Charlie Kirk and others are legally obligated to debate us, to invite us into their private events.
00:35:30.000What we're really saying, though, is that if you do kick us out of your event for having ideas that you disagree with, then you can't style yourselves as champions of the free market of ideas.
00:35:43.000I mean, that whole phrase is somewhat cringy, but that really is something that they take so much pride in.
00:35:52.000And also, I'm going to ban you from my conference and I'm going to call you a Nazi and I'm going to make sure no one can hear what you have to say.
00:35:59.000They might engage with us to some extent when we force them to, where we're literally in the same room as them and they can't get away with us.
00:36:05.000But even if they're having a conversation, and in some of these events, like the Dan Crenshaw one, someone started asking a question, you know.
00:36:16.000And they were like, all right, next question.
00:36:18.000So it's very clear that even their willingness to engage in that manner is a bit limited.
00:36:24.000But the point that I'm making here is they will sometimes engage with our ideas, but it's never in a good faith manner.
00:36:30.000And that really just says it all, right?
00:36:31.000I'm willing to engage with conservatism, Inc.'s ideas, ideas on the left.
00:36:35.000And that's one of the things that drew me to the dissident right, is that we're able to take a sober view on things.
00:36:39.000We're able to look at authors on the left, like Marcuse or Adorno, and say, hey, these guys were terrible overall, but this critique of consumerism, this critique of just kind of the soulless nature of just endless capitalism is worthwhile, right?
00:36:56.000We're able to do that without saying, oh, they're libtards or whatever else, right?
00:37:00.000We actually want to engage in good faith and debate.
00:37:03.000Now, the last thing that I will say is I've talked to a number of TPUSA members, some of them fairly higher up in the organization, during the course of my time in West Palm Beach this weekend.
00:37:12.000And I will say that it's hard to tell how sincere they were being in these interactions, but most of them cited the lack of civility from the Groypers as being their main concern.
00:37:23.000Well, I'll be the first to say that if you understand the predicament that our country is in, and if you understand that Conservatism Inc. is complicit in American decline and is complicit in the globalist destruction of our country, you're not going to care about You know, civility, even if you do, you understand that that's a debate that you have within our side.
00:37:40.000That's not a reason to say, okay, these guys, everything they say is wrong.
00:37:45.000When the establishment shuts us out, when the only engagement they do with us as individuals and with our ideas is smear us, lie about us, slander us, we are under no obligations to play fair, right?
00:37:59.000And I'll say this if the Groyper were, if we just went in there nice, goody two shoes, asking very respectful questions, would anyone be talking about that?
00:38:09.000But we bring energy, and that's something that we absolutely have that many others do not, right?
00:38:16.000We have a powerful grassroots dissident energy that propels us further and further into the spotlight.
00:38:22.000Our goal since the beginning of the dissident, right?
00:38:25.000Our goal since I first became active in dissident politics has been to make us impossible to ignore.
00:38:31.000If they want our ideas to be consigned, to be relegated to the shadows, then we have to do everything in our power to ensure that that does not happen.
00:38:39.000And that the Groyper War was really successful for that reason, because we were able to get these ideas out into the public and they were unable to stop us.
00:38:47.000Try as they may, you know, they can take down the streams, we'll do our own streams.
00:38:51.000They can lie about us, we'll push back against those lies on social media.
00:38:55.000And it's worth pointing out to TPUSA, Charlie Kirk, and everyone else in Conservatism Inc.
00:39:00.000You don't know what it's like to be fueled by idealism.
00:39:03.000You don't know what it is like to be fighting the good fight for the reason that you care about your people and your country.
00:40:09.000And I want to thank all of you for being here also.
00:40:11.000I mean, ultimately, this event, Groyper Leadership Summit, the past few months have been about all of you out there, the work that you've been doing on the ground by confronting the people in Conservatism Inc., whether it be Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, these people.
00:40:24.000This movement really is centered around you, and it's much like Patrick said, this event, this speaking engagement, is about celebrating the accomplishments and the work that you all have done out there.
00:40:37.000So, thank you to you because this wouldn't be possible without it.
00:40:40.000We can all get together in a room and speak, but it doesn't really matter as much as it does in this community setting.
00:40:46.000So, in my talk tonight, I'm going to be focusing a little bit less on the specific events of the past few months.
00:40:55.000You followed the, I'm sure you saw Nick's streams talking about all this stuff on DLive, covering the people, going up and asking these tough questions a lot.
00:41:03.000Maybe some of you here, I'm not sure, Patrick.
00:41:07.000But, so I'm going to be talking a little bit less about the specific events that have been going on.
00:41:21.000I was talking to somebody the other night at dinner, and they actually said that it's a very common set of events that lead people into this movement, the American nationalist movement.
00:41:30.000And I think most of you would probably agree.
00:41:32.000I definitely, you know, 10 years ago or something when I first started getting into politics, I wasn't like, you know, I can't wait for one day to speak at the Groeper Leadership Summit.
00:41:40.000I doubt that any, you know, nobody knew what a Groeper was back then.
00:41:43.000The idea of American nationalism as it exists now.
00:41:47.000I mean, you know, of course, you have, you know, I suppose that I can't really say that.
00:41:50.000It existed, but in very niche circles, you have Pat Buchanan and other key people who were pushing these ideas back then, kind of, you know, John the Baptist type figures, voices crying out in the wilderness, that kind of were our forerunners, and we stand on the shoulders of giants in that regard.
00:42:06.000So, but I do want to talk about that journey.
00:42:09.000You know, I can say personally, I'm sure that many of you will be able to relate to this, you know, growing up, I got into politics really in earnest early on in high school.
00:42:16.000I was always very interested, but early on in high school, All that I really had at the time was kind of neoconservatism.
00:42:22.000And, you know, back then, this was before the gay marriage decision.
00:42:25.000So you were a little bit, you were more allowed to have these social conservative opinions.
00:42:29.000You were allowed to be opposed to gay marriage.
00:42:31.000You were allowed to be opposed to trans, you know, transgenderism as it exists now didn't exist.
00:42:35.000It was, you know, people back then were still made fun of on TV, for example.
00:42:39.000So back then it was very different, but I was still, you know, inculcated in this neoconservative political culture.
00:42:45.000That was the only option that there was.
00:42:47.000At a certain point, I, and I'm sure many of you, began to realize that there was something very wrong with the conservative establishment.
00:42:54.000Of our time of the past 25, 30, and even the past 100 years or so.
00:42:59.000I myself very briefly got involved in libertarianism.
00:43:03.000I got out of that very quickly, but I was for a brief time mentally involved in that, intellectually involved in that, because of the idea that at least it exists outside of, in a sense, outside of our current paradigm.
00:43:16.000The idea that brought all of us to kind of the starting place on this journey is the idea that there is something deeply and innately wrong with our current paradigm.
00:43:25.000So, because of that, many of us got involved with libertarianism.
00:43:28.000It's well documented that there's a pipeline from libertarianism to other, you know, perhaps factions of, you know, right wing kind of niche politics.
00:43:37.000So many of us have gone along that same route.
00:43:40.000And all of that led each, although there were different paths, very similar in nature, all of that led each individual to the point that we are now American nationalism.
00:43:53.000Through this time, we've been refining, learning about these ideas.
00:44:00.000And what you see now in the Groyper Wars is the culmination of that learning, the culmination of that refining of ideas, and now we're beginning to act.
00:44:08.000So, there are so many reasons that many of us have found a home in this American nationalist movement and in the America First community with Nick.
00:44:53.000You could argue from a purely materialistic view in the past hundred years or so, there might have been some reason, some kind of group survival mechanism, why we have families, why we have.
00:45:02.000Church communities, but there's no factual or even logical reason as to why somebody would need a family, would need a church community, an environment like this, for example, or even a nation.
00:45:15.000And I think that shows the foundational mistake that they make.
00:45:18.000There is no factual or logical reason without tapping into the deeply emotional motivations for those things.
00:45:26.000There's no factual explanation for pride or courage or happiness or beauty or any of these things, or even faith in many cases.
00:45:38.000Theirs are very bankrupt at the foundation.
00:45:41.000It takes time and effort to discover these ideas that we all adhere to now.
00:45:45.000It's not an easy thing, you know, as I was talking about a minute ago, the different journey that we all have to go through.
00:45:50.000I mean, very few people, it's kind of funny, I do talk to a lot of people who say that they kind of had these ideas when they were kids or when they were young.
00:45:56.000Maybe they were conservative and they went down this winding road.
00:46:00.000But ultimately, you do have to go through this sort of, you know, hero's journey to be able to get to the point where you are now.
00:46:07.000So, And it's kind of funny because it took, Nick, and I don't say this in a derisive way, but it took like a 20 year old kid sitting in front of a green screen to, you know, took Patrick, who I don't think has any formal training in this at all.
00:46:21.000I mean, I don't think he went to school for anything having to do with political organizing or anything along those lines.
00:46:26.000But these are people who are able to step up into that position and make the decisions that needed to be made.
00:46:31.000And we have multi million dollar organizations, billionaires, mega donors, the entire political class of the United States terrified at these, you know, people who.
00:46:42.000Have really no business other than their pride in their country to be doing what they're doing.
00:46:49.000I've talked about the journey that we've gone through to get to the point that we're in, the situation that we're in.
00:46:54.000And that's part of what we have to learn.
00:46:55.000You know, for the past hundred years or so, you've seen the entrenching of this political class, you've seen the takeover of our institutions.
00:47:03.000In our, you know, the conservative Inc. crowd would say that it was the left marching through these institutions, and that is true to a large extent.
00:47:12.000Ultimately, these people are one in the same.
00:47:14.000The neoliberal political apparatus of the United States has been entrenching itself deeply in every institution in this country for the past hundred years.
00:47:23.000I don't know the age of everybody in this room.
00:47:25.000I would imagine that most of you are probably around 30 or younger.
00:47:30.000And if that's the case, then you likely don't remember a time in which a presidential administration could not be described by a decrease in wages, a decrease in jobs, oftentimes, endless war in the Middle East.
00:47:45.000If you go back, Trump is obviously different in some regard, but we're trying to aim past Trump.
00:47:51.000But you have Obama, Bush before him, Clinton, and then Bush before him, and to an extent, Reagan in the The presidents that came before him.
00:47:58.000The things that we, the problems that we have now are problems that most of us have had for the entirety of our lives.
00:48:04.000And for, that's, can cause, I was trying to think of a word.
00:48:08.000I was talking to my friend Harrison before the speech, trying to find like a technical, real word, like alternative for the word black pill.
00:48:16.000It's very black pilling to not have ever lived in a world or in a society that wasn't run by these people, by this political class, these, you know, whether it be the bankers, the people like Charlie Kirk, the people who want to basically rape our country for profit.
00:48:36.000So, it began over 100 years ago, but for the past 30, it's been almost inescapable, and that can be very heavy.
00:48:43.000So, now, on one hand, it's very heavy, but on the other hand, you can see that this particular conservative ink, this particular political ideology that has ravaged our country, is almost a flash in the pan in the greater course of human events.
00:49:02.000We know that there is no end of history.
00:49:06.000We intellectually know, whether you're a student of history, whether you're a Christian, or just simply an observer of human behavior, you understand that there is no time in which we'll reach stasis where empires will not rise and fall, political classes will not take each other's place, there won't be war.
00:49:26.000And this is deeply contrasted with the ideology of conservative ink.
00:49:31.000We intellectually know that, but functionally it's different.
00:49:34.000One of the keys to this movement, one of the keys to what you're doing out there, one of the keys to what we're doing here tonight is trying to change our mindset away from this idea that nothing can be changed, that they are too big, that they have too much money.
00:49:48.000And I think that the work that you all have done, whether it's asking these questions or doing work on social media, organizing, dropping banners, whatever the case may be, I think that that's evidence how terrified they are, the lengths that they've gone to kick Patrick and Nick out of SAS and out of CPAC and out of all of these events.
00:50:05.000I think that it's Evidence that it's not true, that we cannot change these things, that they're not too big for us.
00:50:11.000So it can be blackpilling, but look in the wider scope of human events.
00:50:17.000And that is to say that one of the things that we learn is that ebb and flow of human history empires rise, empires fall, things change radically over the course.
00:50:25.000I always talk specifically about the French Revolution.
00:50:28.000There's multiple examples of this, but you go from this society, which was deeply conservative, it was the most Christian, the most Catholic nation in Europe.
00:50:36.000And within a few, within a decade, it goes through this transformation and this revolution is touched off.
00:50:42.000The most radical, most disgusting leftist Enlightenment movement in European history before or since.
00:50:52.000And then within a few years of that, you have Napoleon come along, who was radical in a sense because he was able to undo much of that revolution and turn it back towards a conservative perspective with the monarchy and bringing back the church in.
00:51:07.000And you see this multiple times throughout history.
00:51:09.000So, It's incredibly important that we all acknowledge that that is the case and that we all do play a part on this stage.
00:51:17.000That being said, with the idea that empires rise and fall, I don't know if the United States will continue to exist or for how long in its current iteration.
00:51:25.000Obviously, our goal is to preserve that as long as possible.
00:51:28.000But even the Roman Empire, which lasted a millennium or so, didn't last forever.
00:51:34.000But the core of this debate is what is America?
00:51:44.000And the truth is that America is not a set of ideas, America is not a document.
00:51:49.000America is not a piece of paper that you sign whenever you've gone through the appropriate tests and fees and classes in order to get a green card or to gain citizenship.
00:51:59.000America is a place and it is a distinct people.
00:52:03.000As long as there are Americans, there will be America.
00:52:06.000Whatever that looks like, whatever America looks like in that iteration, there will be America as long as there are American people.
00:52:13.000So I believe mine is a little bit shorter than Patrick's, but up until now, we've been.
00:52:20.000Learning and refining, like I said, and now we're acting, and this is what action looks like.
00:54:49.000It says something about our place in politics that we had to have such a secure, tight procedure to get everybody here to just watch speeches, right?
00:54:58.000So thanks to everybody that came out here at risk of journalists, turning point people, stimming around, seeing what we're up to.
00:55:06.000We can infiltrate their events, not so much with ours.
00:55:09.000I also want to thank our internet audience.
00:55:13.000Of course, I'll be speaking to the people here in the room tonight the Groypers, lots of them, my friends, lots of them, people I admire for asking questions.
00:55:20.000But we are also talking to an internet audience of something like, I think, 10,000 live viewers right now.
00:55:27.000It's going to be, I'm sure, that number will climb as this video is passed around.
00:55:31.000So, you know, primarily we are going to be directing the message of this speech at the people watching at home and principally perhaps interested turning point members, people that have been confused about who we are, what we're about.
00:55:43.000And it's interesting because this has been the most common question that I've been asked.
00:55:46.000You know, I came out here, and the reason we've done it this weekend in West Palm Beach, Florida, Is because, of course, we are hosting this mini conference concurrently with Turning Point's annual Student Action Summit or the SAS Summit, which they hold this weekend.
00:56:01.000Sounds like we've got some cans wrestling there, which we hold this weekend at the same time in the same place as the Turning Point Summit.
00:56:08.000And so I've been around the city and I've been trying to sort of gauge where people are at.
00:56:12.000And really, it doesn't even take much.
00:56:14.000I mean, I rolled into the conference yesterday, I came into the hotel lobby, and automatically everybody around gathers to shake my hand.
00:56:22.000You know, even people that disagree saying, I don't know if I agree with everything, but what you're doing is very interesting.
00:56:27.000You know, I don't agree with everything, but I really admire your courage.
00:56:30.000I think you're asking the right questions.
00:56:39.000We had a black gentleman in Burger Fi coming to get a picture with us saying he was a big fan while we were being persecuted by some Aryan girl.
00:56:47.000You know, it's always, it is always, you know, these white people, right?
00:56:52.000Can't call us racist when I make remarks like that.
00:56:55.000But in any case, we've been around town and everybody's been talking to us and they've been basically saying, well, we've heard a lot about you, but what are you really about?
00:59:27.000Because even when we were doing all kinds of projects overseas in the 30s and 40s, even when we were experiencing economic downturn, even during the Civil War, what we always bounce back to is a very normal, very high standard of living that we have in America.
00:59:42.000We look at Los Angeles today as the epicenter of what the country will look like in the future.
00:59:46.000You know, for example, I was recently in New York City actually.
00:59:49.000And I was talking to some friends of mine, and they all told me that New York City just isn't the same because it doesn't feel like the center of the world anymore.
00:59:56.000And I thought about that, and it's very true.
00:59:57.000In a lot of ways, Los Angeles is sort of the new pole in America, where it went from New York City in the last century to Los Angeles, perhaps in this century.
01:00:31.000It's because medieval diseases are coming back, like tuberculosis, like typhoid, things like this.
01:00:37.000We see that California, and more specifically Los Angeles, are unrecognizable.
01:00:42.000And not unrecognizable, again, necessarily because they're in this condition, but because they simply don't look the same culturally, demographically.
01:00:50.000If you're a white person and you go to Los Angeles, you're a minority.
01:00:53.000If you go to a shopping mall, if you walk down a street, you are a minority.
01:00:57.000You know, we talk about the homeless crisis, the corruption.
01:02:27.000There was a report in the LA Times last month that admitted as much.
01:02:30.000The LA Times, which is not obviously a beacon of conservatism, we're not talking about the American Renaissance, we're not talking about V Dare, we're not talking about the legendary hacker 4chan.
01:02:42.000We're talking about the LA Times, kind of a cheap jail hacker for a chance.
01:02:49.000We're talking about the LA Times that said that Republicans are terrified for their political future in Texas and in Georgia and in Arizona because the very same thing happening in all those states and then consequently the country already happened in California, which is what happened.
01:03:06.000You had mass immigration to California from Asian and Latin America, you had different people from different countries coming to ours.
01:03:43.000We've had 60 million immigrants come in since 1965, legal and illegal.
01:03:48.000Now, whether you think, oh, they have to come in legally and we're out of a big door in the middle of the wall, whatever your belief is on that, 60 million immigrants came from foreign countries that don't work.
01:03:57.000In Asia and Latin America, they vote Democratic.
01:03:59.000They bring with them their standards of living, their culture, their mannerisms, and so on.
01:04:04.000And in those 60 years that those 60 million people came in since 1965, you had many Republican presidents, many Republican congresses, Republican House of Representatives, Republican Senate.
01:04:16.000Ronald Reagan infamously presided over an amnesty of 3 million illegal aliens.
01:04:21.000George W. Bush, it was his political strategy to bring in as many Hispanics as possible, as many immigrants as possible, under the guise that this would bring him an electoral victory or ensure that Hispanics would vote Republican.
01:04:38.000It was not simply progressives, but they had some help too.
01:04:42.000They had some help from people like Charlie Kirk and the people that fund him.
01:04:46.000And by the way, who does fund Charlie Kirk?
01:04:48.000Yesterday, Charlie Kirk got a $5 million donation from Foster Fries.
01:04:53.000Foster Fries, who works for an organization, That is under the Koch Brothers umbrella.
01:04:59.000The Koch Brothers, who said this year and last year that they would begin funding primary opponents against America First GOP candidates, said they would fund opposition candidates or even Democrats themselves, opposition candidates within the primaries against people who support tariffs, immigration restriction, and end to foreign wars, and even Democrats if they opposed all those things.
01:05:20.000So, are the Koch Brothers conservative?
01:05:22.000Are the Koch Brothers in favor of the America First agenda?
01:06:00.000We are doing this because we oppose people like Charlie Kirk that have contributed to the state of our country, again, which has some finality that will probably go on into the future.
01:06:11.000And what does Turning Point USA represent when they get their funding from Foster Freeze and from the Koch brothers?
01:06:16.000Well, they represent things like stapling green cards to diplomas.
01:06:19.000You know, as Patrick said earlier, this is a line that was verbatim, verbatim, the same words used by Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, I believe Nancy Pelosi.
01:06:29.000They said that every foreigner who comes through our schools and gets a diploma, we should staple a green card and let them stay in the country indefinitely.
01:06:37.000He supports things like the EB5 and F1 visa program.
01:06:40.000Would variously let people buy their way into our country if they have a million dollars.
01:06:44.000If their aristocrat dad in China or India has a company, they can buy their way into the country.
01:06:49.000Which, by the way, that immigration plan is more radical than Silicon Valley in favor of open borders, mass immigration.
01:06:56.000Turning Point USA represents drug use, homosexuality, pornography.
01:07:01.000What did we hear just yesterday afternoon?
01:07:03.000I saw Glenn Beck get on stage, you know, the same conference which I was not allowed at because I'm such a bad guy.
01:07:09.000Glenn Beck got on stage and said that Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive.
01:07:13.000And that if you're in favor of banning porn, if you're in favor of banning pornography, you're in the same camp as that dastardly progressive Teddy Roosevelt, the leftist.
01:07:24.000And by the way, when I say they're for drug use, when they're for homosexuality, they're not just for it in terms of policy.
01:07:30.000Charlie Kirk has come out recently and tried to bolster his credentials on these issues.
01:07:34.000He's teamed up with, what, Falwell at Liberty University to come up with some farce, you know, some ridiculous organization to show that he stands with Christianity.
01:07:43.000It's not just that he promulgates deviant social values.
01:07:47.000Deviant sexual practices by the people he has on stage, but it's everything going on in his organization.
01:07:52.000I've been walking around variously with Turning Point members and they tell me tales about Turning Point parties where people are smoking pot and they're doing drugs and there's underage drinking and I hear about sexual harassment and abuse.
01:08:12.000What does Turning Point USA represent?
01:08:14.000When they promote mass immigration, when they promote pornography, when they promote Deviant social values when they promote allegiance to a foreign country?
01:08:21.000Well, in a word, they're promoting something called libertarianism.
01:09:23.000But to back it up even further, you know, how did we arrive here at this summit at SAS with Charlie Kirk at Turning Point USA?
01:09:30.000Well, we arrived because there was a band of neo Nazis that wanted to take over the government, that showed up to these QAs and sabotaged events, different troublemakers, scavengers, you know, terrible people that show up to the event yesterday.
01:09:46.000SAS who seek to agitate, who seek only to cause trouble and disrupt.
01:09:51.000Of course, we didn't get here because of that.
01:09:55.000We got here because we showed up to Charlie Kirk's QA sessions and we asked questions.
01:10:01.000You know, you might have heard a lot about the Groypers and what they write breathlessly in National Review and Daily Wire and all these different publications is that we are trying to sabotage the conservative movement.
01:10:13.000By showing up to public events, by showing up to public question and answer sessions and asking questions and expecting answers?
01:12:31.000Maybe that's why he's got such a problem with Christians.
01:12:33.000You know, he sees these Groypers with the crosses and the rosaries, and he sees the sadness on Nurse Kate's face when he returns home from these conferences, and she shakes her head and says, you know.
01:14:22.000Well, he said at some Zionist fundraiser or something, he said that America, what that means that we're a propositional nation, it means that America is merely a placeholder for ideas.
01:16:44.000You know, Charlie Kirk said, well, if we set up America on a desert island, it was indigenous people, and we had the Constitution, that would be America.
01:16:52.000How's that any different from the forecast where we are today, right?
01:16:54.000It's going to be a different topography because of the pollution, the trash, the shit, and it's going to be different people.
01:17:34.000Is this a debate that Charlie Kirk would like to have?
01:17:37.000A debate about whether or not we're going to be a nation that promotes chemical castration of children?
01:17:42.000A nation that allows drag queen story hours?
01:17:44.000A nation that allows gender to not exist?
01:17:46.000I had Elijah Schaefer come up to me today and he said that he changed his official gender in California to X and his pronouns are pee pee and poo poo.
01:17:57.000But that's not a country we want to live in.
01:17:59.000Or do we want to live in a country where you've got decent, virtuous, orderly people, where you have families that are not made up of, you know, polyamorous couples and people wearing wigs and, you know, completely androgynous people?
01:18:12.000It's not Benny Johnson in the middle of some kind of sandwich at some weird turning point sex party.
01:18:19.000It's going to be men and women, and they're going to be having children.
01:18:22.000And the foundation of the country will be families.
01:18:27.000And so lastly, in the last part of the debate, I might be sort of leading on there, is going to be individualism versus families.
01:18:33.000Are we going to be a society that puts the individual as the highest unit that we order our country, or is it the family?
01:18:40.000And this is where I think a lot of the economics comes into play.
01:18:42.000You know, Charlie Kirk is in favor largely of capitalism.
01:18:46.000I think this is the only thing that he really has conviction about.
01:18:49.000Donald Trump, he said in January 2016 that Donald Trump is a terrible person.
01:18:53.000How could any Christian vote for somebody who is an adulterer and has so many divorces?
01:18:58.000You know, so he doesn't really care about Donald Trump.
01:19:00.000When it comes to Christianity, you know, again, here's somebody that is going to sit on stage with deviants and he's going to promote deviancy, but then say, oh, no, no, but in my private life, I'm Christian.
01:19:27.000You know, this is why people fund him because ultimately, when you're going to these things, as Patrick talked about earlier, you're going to see signs that say, Netflix, we support Amazon, we support all these different things.
01:19:37.000You know, underlying all of this is the idea that the only sort of organizing principle in the country is that individuals can do whatever they want.
01:19:45.000There's only one problem we don't live in a society of individuals, we don't live in a country of individuals, we don't live in a world of individuals.
01:19:53.000We live in a world of men and women and children.
01:19:56.000We live in a world of families, and it is that simple.
01:19:59.000And we need policies that address that.
01:20:01.000Because you look across the country today, and it's not working for families.
01:20:04.000It's not working for families that want to raise children because maybe both their parents have to work, or maybe they can't afford health care, or maybe they're being outcompeted by immigrants, or maybe they're being outcompeted by people overseas because we have free trade.
01:20:16.000It doesn't work for fathers, mothers, or children.
01:20:18.000That's why we see the proliferation of public funded daycare.
01:20:21.000We should be ashamed of that if we ever have the government handling our daycare.
01:20:25.000We can't even take care of our own kids.
01:20:26.000But these are the kinds of policies, economically and otherwise, that Charlie Kirk promotes.
01:20:31.000Or should we have policies that support the family?
01:20:33.000Things like paid maternity leave, protecting the American worker, protecting jobs, opposing feminism, not just when it's easy and convenient, not just saying that we oppose feminism because it looks silly or these people are yelling at us or because, you know, it's third wave feminism and that's the most extreme, but saying that the backbone of the society is mothers raising their children in the home.
01:22:10.000It's a fringe position that after 60 years of unfettered mass migration, 60 million in 60 years, that we turn off the spigot?
01:22:18.000That we stop the flow of foreigners into the country that come with drugs and crime and their diseases and everything else, that's abnormal.
01:22:24.000It's abnormal to see drag queen story hours and chemical castrations and to be repulsed to your core at that.
01:22:30.000It's normal, it's abnormal, I should say, to hear Charlie Kirk say, God bless Israel, God bless a foreign country, and go to conferences funded by Zionists and foreigners.
01:22:40.000That's abnormal to oppose all that stuff.
01:22:44.000And they know that if we ever got to be on a fair playing field, we ever got to have that conversation and that debate, that people will be on our side.
01:22:52.000The reason that people are not coming out, or rather, the reason that something is not metastasized to challenge Charlie Kirkett at his level is because people are afraid.
01:23:00.000Because they know that if they come out and say these normal things that we're saying, what's going to happen to them?
01:23:17.000This is how they've dominated our country for 30 years.
01:23:19.000Through this linguistic, political correctness control, through the control of language, through the control of the conversation.
01:23:25.000That is how they win, is if people are afraid.
01:23:28.000And I've heard a lot of feedback over the course of the Groyper Award from people coming up to me and saying, Oh, you know, Nick, your tone is just so controversial.
01:23:35.000You know, these jokes that you're making, is it really worth it?
01:23:46.000But seriously, they say, Oh, well, Nick, you know, the way you're coming across, people, even if they agree with me, you know, I talked about this with Elijah Schaefer as one example.
01:23:55.000I see where you're coming from, I see what you're saying.
01:23:57.000You know, you're turning a lot of people off.
01:25:26.000Everyone to interpret the motives of the people involved in these kinds of smears on your own.
01:25:32.000But I'll just say this that the future of our movement, right, it is not doing these mass rallies.
01:25:36.000We've seen that that is not a good way.
01:25:38.000As long as there is a social cost to being a dissident, to advocating for what Nick rightfully described as really normal, healthy things, then much of our movement is going to be behind the scenes.
01:25:47.000There do need to be content creators such as myself, Jake, Nick, clearly many others are doing that.
01:25:52.000There's a lot that you can do anonymously on the internet, so let's not.
01:25:56.000You know, disparage or downplay the online Groypers and other Twitter accounts who are doing great work.
01:26:01.000But I just want to say this that if we do nothing, then it's over, right?
01:26:06.000Thousands of years of Western history will have been for naught, right?
01:26:09.000We will be erased and we will be essentially an anecdote in Chinese history, right?
01:26:14.000The Chinese, hundreds of years from now, will look back on us and say, wait, why did they do that, right?
01:26:41.000And we absolutely have the ability to affect change.
01:26:44.000Don't let anyone tell you that there's nothing to be done or there's no hope affecting change, right?
01:26:49.000Look at where we are now compared to where we were a few months ago.
01:26:52.000And that was the result of the Groyper War.
01:26:54.000That was the result of people taking smart, calculated risks.
01:26:58.000So again, The answer is to not do anything and sit on your computer and just assume that anyone who's doing this publicly is funded by the Chinese, slash, the Russian, slash, Dugan, slash, you know, the feds or whatever.
01:27:10.000It's not to be that, you know, that, but at the same time, it's not to be reckless, right?
01:27:13.000You guys all have, you know, you rightfully should be taking care of your, you know, your OPSEC, of your anonymity and so forth.
01:27:21.000And that's just what life is as a dissident.
01:27:41.000We have an energy that is, again, that is authentic, that is sincere, that is grassroots, that the establishment simply doesn't have.
01:27:48.000That's a big part of the reason why they fear us.
01:27:50.000I want to thank everyone who helped with the logistics for this event.
01:27:53.000And I just want to thank everyone who's continued to support me, Jake, Nick, all of the other people who are fighting the good fight in the dissident right.
01:28:00.000Don't let anyone tell you that we're not.