00:00:12.000There is so much going on in the world today.
00:00:15.000We have to talk about the Italian elections, which are coming up this weekend.
00:00:21.000And we're going to give a pretty good account, a pretty good summary of what's going on in Italy, what's going on more broadly in Europe, and why we see what we're seeing in Italy.
00:00:31.000This weekend and this week, and throughout this election, which has gone on for some time.
00:00:36.000But there are many other things going on in the country as well.
00:00:39.000The beautiful and the talented Hope Hicks has resigned out of the Trump administration, which I don't really see how that's news.
00:00:47.000Everybody's talking about, oh, Hope Hicks is resigning.
00:00:51.000I mean, she said she was going to resign for months, and, you know, she finally did.
00:00:55.000There was some sparring between President Trump and the Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, on Twitter and on other places, and we'll get into that, I think, a little bit.
00:01:03.000But the big thing we want to talk about today is the Italian elections.
00:01:06.000It really is a microcosm of what is going on, not just in Europe, you know, it's going on in Italy and not just in Europe, but in the Western world and really the entire world, which is the rise of populism, the rise of ethnic nationalism.
00:01:22.000Me and RC debated about it a couple of weeks ago, and we laid out, I think, pretty convincingly the case that whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing, ethnic nationalism will be the defining.
00:01:36.000The next 100 years will be the 100 years of ethnic nationalism.
00:01:40.000And in truth, I think that's what we've been getting away from.
00:01:43.000I think maybe the liberal idea, the Western European liberal idea of politics and society, has been resisting ethnic nationalism for the past 200 years.
00:01:54.000There's been an ideological commitment to resisting it, fighting back against it, trying to disprove it.
00:02:00.000And whether you like it or not, it's here to stay.
00:02:03.000And whether we like it or not, it is going to determine the course of events.
00:02:34.000And in Chicago, the law, I guess, the law is that you can't, Conceal carry a knife with a blade bigger than two and a half inches, three inches.
00:03:25.000I'm not sure where he was holding it, but he was holding a talk someplace.
00:03:29.000And some brave soul came up to Ben Shapiro and essentially asked him Look, Ben, you're proud of your ethnic Jewish identity, you're proud of your religious Jewish identity, you support Israel, you're a very strong Zionist.
00:03:43.000And yet you believe that America should be a creedal nation, meaning that America's identity is not ethnic, racial, religious, cultural, or political, but it is creedal.
00:03:53.000It is based on the American creed, which is the American dream, what's laid out in the Constitution, the Declaration, the founding documents.
00:04:02.000And Ben Shapiro responded, which I thought was very peculiar.
00:04:04.000And we have to talk about it because this is the question I've been meaning to ask him for a long time.
00:04:08.000And it was very interesting, his response.
00:04:10.000He essentially said that, first of all, he takes no pride in his ethnic Jewish identity.
00:04:15.000He says he takes pride in his religious Jewish identity.
00:04:19.000He said there's a big difference because religion is a set of values.
00:04:24.000And ideas, whereas ethnicity is something that is indeterminate, which is something, or rather, it's something that you do not determine yourself.
00:04:31.000You don't choose who you decide to be born as.
00:04:34.000You don't choose what ethnicity that you're going to be born as.
00:04:37.000So Shapiro says, I don't take pride in the ethnic component, but just the religious component, because these are ideas.
00:04:44.000Which is an interesting way to start, because from the beginning of the argument, from the foundational point of view on this argument that he then tries to make, we have a misrepresentation, we have a complete lie.
00:04:55.000As to what Judaism is, a complete and total manipulation.
00:04:59.000Because any Orthodox Jew, anybody who's a scholar on the subject of rabbinical Judaism, will tell you that according to Jewish law, you are not Jewish unless you have a Jewish mother.
00:05:11.000And so, this idea that, oh, it's singularly a religion, and it's this very liberal, kind of postmodern idea of religion that you can kind of, it's interchangeable.
00:05:21.000I can be Orthodox Christian, I can be Jewish, I could be Hindu.
00:05:24.000It's just different sets of beliefs and values.
00:05:41.000And regardless of whether he believes it's important, Israel believes it's important.
00:05:45.000So he might say that Israel is a creedal nation, he might say, and that was what he went on to make the argument further, was that if you understand Judaism as religion, then you understand that Israel is a creedal nation, which is.
00:05:59.000Such an insane, ridiculous argument that I don't even know where to begin on that one.
00:06:04.000The idea that, number one, you're starting from this false and manipulative premise that Judaism has no ethnic component, it's singularly religious.
00:06:11.000But then to make the argument that the Zionist state, the Jewish state, has no ethnic component, it's creedal, that it's just based on the Jewish idea, the Jewish religion, is just straight up a lie.
00:06:25.000Of course, they've talked about in the Israeli parliament putting in place a DNA test.
00:06:31.000To decide who can be let into the country and who is not let in.
00:06:34.000Because, of course, all Jews around the world have what they call the right of return to Israel, where no matter who you are, no matter where you come from, if you're Jewish, you get to come back to Israel and you get to be a citizen.
00:06:45.000And so they're very open with immigration for Jewish people, very closed.
00:06:50.000It's so hard to move to Israel if you're not Jewish.
00:06:53.000And one of the ways they talked about how they could assess if people were actually Jewish, people that were fleeing Russia, people that are coming back from the Soviet Union, this late diaspora from Israel.
00:07:50.000We have to get into the Italian elections, which are coming up on Sunday.
00:07:54.000Now, a little word about the Italian elections.
00:07:56.000They don't operate in the same way the American system does.
00:08:00.000So, what they're doing for this election, which will take place on Sunday, is a combination of what happens in the United States and what happens in other European countries.
00:08:10.000It's a hybrid of two systems, one being called first past the post and the other being proportional representation.
00:08:17.000And so, they don't have an elected president like we do, they have a prime minister.
00:08:23.000And they vote for a party, and then once all the parties are chosen and they're elected based on either first past the post or proportional representation, the parties take their seats, and then the party leaders form a coalition government and they choose who's going to lead the government, who will be the prime minister.
00:08:39.000So, unlike in the United States where we go to the polls and we say, I want Donald Trump or I want Hillary Clinton, or we go for a representative in your given state, you know, for example, in the Senate in 2016 for Illinois, it was Mark Kirk versus Tammy Duckworth.
00:08:55.000Well, In the European system, they just vote for the party.
00:08:57.000They don't vote for the representative.
00:08:59.000They vote for do I want the center right party?
00:09:06.000We have leaders in the parties who are seen as the de facto heads and who will end up as being contenders for prime minister.
00:09:13.000But when people go to the polls in Italy on Sunday, they're more voting for a platform.
00:09:18.000They're more voting for what are the ideas behind the party.
00:09:21.000And they're also thinking strategically in the sense that it's a multi party system.
00:09:25.000You have over 20 parties running in the election.
00:09:28.000Contrasted with the American system, where only two really have a shot, you have some smaller parties, but they rarely get any significant percentage of the vote.
00:09:37.000And also in Italy, they have some seats that are proportional, whereas you can't win seats in the United States that way.
00:09:43.000Whereas if you get 30% in Italy, you might get 30% of the seats for a given province.
00:09:48.000In the United States, it's all or nothing.
00:10:03.000None of these coalitions are close to 40 or 50% of the vote.
00:10:07.000That's another thing that's different with the United States vote, where it's either, you know, you get 50% for Republican, 50% for Democrat, or in the case of the 2016 election, I think it was something like 47, 48%.
00:10:20.000In each of these coalitions where they have multiple parties grouped together, the highest percentage you have is something like 38%, is something like 35%.
00:10:29.000But you have the center left coalition.
00:10:32.000Which is Matteo Renzi's Democratic Party.
00:10:38.000And Matteo Renzi, if you recall, he was the prime minister of Italy starting in 2016.
00:10:42.000He had to step down after a constitutional referendum.
00:10:46.000I think it was about a year ago, or maybe a little bit less than a year ago, where the constitutional referendum was something about the European Union.
00:10:53.000It was essentially a big blow to the European Union.
00:10:55.000He had to step down because he gambled on it.
00:10:58.000But he is now coming back, leading the center left party, the Democratic Party.
00:11:06.000I mean, it's pretty universally expected that the far left or the center left parties are not going to do well.
00:11:14.000That no matter what the outcome is, they're probably not going to be in charge because of how the economy's been doing, because of immigration, which has been ravaging the country, and we'll get into that in a moment.
00:11:24.000You have the five star movement led by a guy named Milo, who would be not forming a coalition government.
00:11:31.000This is sort of peculiar about this party, where they say, unlike the other parties, we will not be cooperating, we won't be forming a coalition.
00:12:37.000And this is what's really interesting here because what you see happening in the European Union, you saw this with the Austrian prime minister who came to office a couple of months ago, who's far right.
00:12:48.000You see this in Hungary and Poland's ethnic nationalist resistance to the European Union, to the migration crisis.
00:13:39.000It's looking like Italy is on the brink of collapse.
00:13:42.000You look at the instability that we've witnessed in Italy over the past couple of months, over the past year, where there was a shooting on a migrant center, where you've seen riots, you've seen anti fascist rallies, you've seen neo fascist rallies, you see Roman salutes.
00:13:56.000You see this revanchist spirit where people are looking back towards Mussolini.
00:14:02.000And you know, people might say Mussolini was a fascist, Mussolini was a bad guy, but of course, history is a little bit more complicated than this.
00:14:08.000When you look at the record of people like Mosley, people like Mussolini, among others, Mussolini is somebody who, sure, there was some negative stuff, there was torture, there were bad things, but here was somebody who believed in the greatness of Italy and who understood what Italy was, understood Italy's unique place.
00:14:29.000In history, the uniqueness of the country, the exceptionalism of the country, somebody who believed in a return to glory for Italy.
00:14:37.000And, you know, say what you will, but the trains ran on time under that regime.
00:14:41.000And so he represents something to the Italians where they see year after year they are ravaged, they are torn in pieces by immigration, mass immigration, which is imposed on them, which is brought on them through coercion by the supranational European Union.
00:14:58.000And they look back to Mussolini and they say, hey, you know, maybe.
00:15:01.000Hey, maybe we could use a little bit more of that.
00:15:03.000They look towards their neighboring countries in the East.
00:15:11.000They look towards Hungary, countries where the economy is not doing so well and the human rights record isn't so good.
00:15:17.000And they haven't been totally welcomed into the European Union and they're not totally assimilated with the Western European countries.
00:15:23.000And they were crushed under the heel of socialism.
00:15:26.000But despite that, despite being the losers in the Cold War, they appear to be the winners.
00:15:32.000In the new war, in the new tribal war in Europe, because while France and England and Spain and Italy are being forced by transnational elites, by the transnational ruling class in Brussels, in the European Union, are forcing these Western European countries to take in hundreds of thousands and millions of migrants, in many cases from North and West Africa, from the Middle East, Poland and Hungary are doing just fine.
00:15:57.000You know, anytime you get some neoliberal technocrat bragging about how the free market is what makes Western Europe great, the free market is.
00:16:06.000Is how we defeated the Soviet Union and defeated the Eastern Bloc, and this is what makes us the free world.
00:16:12.000Well, every time there's a metro bombing, and every time there's a stabbing attack, and every time there's a rape attack, or there's gang rapes, or there's Muslim gangs roaming the streets, or all these other things that you see where these people are displacing the native population, where the most popular given name, the most popular infant name in London is Muhammad.
00:16:33.000Well, the Polish, the Czech, the Hungarians, they're laughing it up.
00:16:38.000Maybe they don't have cheap McDonald's, right?
00:16:41.000Maybe they don't have totally cheap consumer products, right?
00:16:45.000But hey, they still have their local flavor.
00:16:48.000They still have their national character, and they know what it means to be Polish, to be Hungarian.
00:18:44.000In this country, not only do they have one of the highest debt to GDP ratios in the European Union, they have an above average unemployment rate among other EU member states.
00:18:54.000They have an unemployment rate of 11% for the youth.
00:18:57.000It's something like double or triple that.
00:19:00.000So not only do you have this economic matter where you have these migrants who are outpacing the rate of growth by the native population, and there's more migrants than Italians being born, but there's no jobs.
00:19:15.000But on top of that, if all of that is not enough, if all of that is not sufficient reason to say, hey, maybe we should think about this, maybe we should think about it a little bit more before I bring in another 100 grand to these people from Africa.
00:19:28.000But on top of that, they have the gall.
00:19:31.000The rootless transnational elite in Brussels, Belgium, have the gall to, by force of supranational law, tell these Italians you must take them and they must become citizens.
00:19:45.000That these people who come off the boat, they go through the Sahara Desert, they go through the Maghreb, they build their little life raft, they sail across the Mediterranean.
00:19:56.000Most of the time, they get about five miles off the coast before the European Coast Guard.
00:20:01.000Picks them up and brings them all the way across the sea to Italy, but then they have the gall to say, These people are Italians.
00:20:13.000They were in Lagos, living in a shanty built out of plastic bags.
00:20:20.000A hundred years ago, they were in civilizations where they had no written language, where they had no impersonal offices of government, where they had no two story buildings, where all they didn't even have geographic borders, it was just control over people, and this is complicated.
00:20:35.000I studied African politics, but these are stark differences between two civilizations.
00:20:40.000But we're supposed to believe, because of by edict from some rootless transnational in Brussels, somebody with no home but who feels at home everywhere, these technocrats pushing papers, unelected bureaucrats, they tell us that these people who come across the sea, well, they're just as Italian as Michelangelo and Raphael and Julius Caesar.
00:21:01.000Is that, are we supposed to believe that?
00:21:03.000Does anybody believe that for a moment?
00:21:16.000That's a big reason why Brexit happened not just immigration, but immigration and its effect on the economy.
00:21:23.000But the slap in the face, the moral injustice that is being perpetrated, the injustice, the crime against humanity, is that these people are brought here.
00:21:56.000If an African comes over here, it doesn't matter if they have a different skin color.
00:22:00.000It doesn't matter if they practice a different faith.
00:22:02.000It doesn't matter if they haven't been in the country for generations and participated in its struggles, its successes, its glory, its history, its politics, its culture, its customs.
00:22:15.000They're on the land, so long as they're on the land, and they fill out, they sign on the dotted line, and the initial here, there, and the other.
00:22:22.000Well, they're just, now those are Italians.
00:22:25.000And isn't that, you can see this in the sports teams where they say, this is the Italian sports team.
00:22:30.000And you look at it, you say, oh, yeah, um, oh, that's the, I could have mistook that for the Niger sports team.
00:22:37.000I could have mistook that for the Botswana sports team.
00:23:03.000This is what they talk about all day long: inclusion.
00:23:06.000And they say that we need a definition of America, we need a definition of Italy or of Europe that is inclusive, that is inclusive of people from Mexico, that is inclusive of people from Africa, that is inclusive of Muslims.
00:23:21.000And Jews and Chinese people, and on and on.
00:23:24.000And you have to think about it purely in terms of definition.
00:23:27.000This might get a little philosophical, but I hope I explain it simply enough.
00:23:31.000Definitions, by their very nature, are necessarily exclusionary.
00:23:37.000When you describe a thing, you describe its properties.
00:23:58.000You call it a mug because it contains liquid.
00:24:01.000It's ceramic, and a mug is different than a cup because it's ceramic, and so you could have a hot liquid in there or a cold liquid in there.
00:24:09.000But when you say what it is, you also say what it is not.
00:24:12.000You also say that it is not some of the properties that are here in this computer or here in this microphone.
00:24:18.000And so when you talk about definitions, to define what it means to be Italian, we have to say what it is and also define it against what it is not.
00:24:27.000Well, it is this certain ethnic group.
00:24:30.000Descended from these particular tribes, participating in this particular history with these customs, with these mannerisms, with this culture, with their song, with their dress, their dance, their food.
00:25:07.000And it is very complicated, but it's all very connected.
00:25:09.000When people talk about these postmodern neo Marxists, when they talk about constructivists, when they talk about critical theory, the Frankfurt School, when they talk about all this stuff, it all comes back full circle.
00:25:21.000This is the practical application of it.
00:25:23.000We have to affirm what a country is in and of itself.
00:25:26.000Because you have people, and this is the slogan of the right wing coalition, their slogan is Italians First, which is, of course, the name of this program.
00:25:35.000Italians see their country and they've been here.
00:25:39.000They've seen the passage of centuries in their towns, in their cities.
00:25:43.000They see their families, their ancestors, who their ancestors fought in wars.
00:25:49.000Italy might not have existed if not for the sacrifice of the ancestors of Italians that are on the land now, ethnic Italians who fought against invaders from the Maghreb, who fought against Muslim invaders, who fought against all kinds of invaders, Carthaginian invaders, if you want to go back really far.
00:26:06.000Who fought in wars to secure the existence of Italy?
00:26:09.000People who fought so that Italians could be free?
00:26:11.000People who fought so that Italians could have the prosperity and the wealth that they do today?
00:26:16.000People that worked everything that you see in Italy today the buildings, the businesses, the roads, the institutions these were built with the sweat and the hard work of people that have been there for hundreds of years.
00:26:28.000And now, what you have in Italy are people who they are connected, they are in Italy and they are connected to the land, they are connected to the language.
00:26:36.000They're connected to their ancestors, the founders of the country and the founders of everything, the builders of everything, the people that defended everything.
00:26:55.000I have an inheritance and there will be a posterity to hand it off to.
00:26:59.000And I need to partake in it and preserve it for my children.
00:27:02.000Well, now they hear from the European Union and they hear from the supranational institutions.
00:27:07.000They hear from the United Nations and the IMF and the World Bank.
00:27:11.000The World Bank and the European Union that, well, these Africans, these poor, poor Africans, these poor Arabs from the Middle East, they couldn't figure it out over there.
00:27:21.000They couldn't build a functioning society over there.
00:27:54.000There are certain things that are bigger than the gross domestic product of a country.
00:27:59.000There are certain things that are more important than how we can support the welfare state.
00:28:03.000You know, people are saying if the right wing coalition gets into office, then the deficit will go up in Italy.
00:28:10.000This is one of the main concerns about the right wing party.
00:28:12.000They say parts of the right wing coalition's platform would increase the deficit in Italy, which would trigger economic scares because Italy has one of the higher debt to GDP ratios in Italy.
00:28:24.000They have, what is it, 2.3 trillion euros in publicly held debt.
00:28:51.000If our country goes away, if Italy is no longer Italian, if France is no longer French, if England is no longer English, if the United States is no longer American, we could give a damn.
00:29:03.000We could care less what the public debt is.
00:29:05.000We could care less what the job situation looks like.
00:29:08.000If we don't have an inheritance to pass down to our children that is real and meaningful, that gives them a broader sense of belonging, who cares?
00:30:26.000No, it's from their ethnicity, it's from ethnic nationalism.
00:30:30.000The strongest countries that are positioning themselves in the world today, that are ascendant, be it Russia, China, the Philippines, North Korea to an extent, these assertive ascendant powers, They are bound together by nationalism.
00:30:45.000They are bound together by a shared identity.
00:30:48.000And this was forecasted many years ago.
00:31:24.000In the absence of these ideological fault lines, in the absence or the decay of these ideological allegiances and alliances and posses, how now are the nations going to align?
00:31:36.000Because before, you could have nations like Brazil be aligned with the United States.
00:31:41.000Brazil and Mexico, all the countries in the Western Hemisphere, allied with the United States.
00:31:46.000And many countries in Africa and the Middle East, and all the European countries west of the Berlin Wall, and Australia, and some of these Asian countries, they were all with the United States.
00:31:56.000Well, after the ideological conflict subsides, how do they find a common interest with the United States?
00:32:03.000Before it was, well, we need to be shored up against the Soviet threat.
00:32:06.000A Soviet revolution, it's either you're with them or you're with the other.
00:32:09.000Well, now, in the absence of these two competing forces, how do we define our alliances?
00:32:16.000And in the advent, at the same time that this is happening, of globalization, of communications technologies, transportation technologies, that for the first time in human history are forcing all the peoples and religions and cultures of the world.
00:32:30.000To be truly in conflict with one another, truly in a clash with one another, which was written by Sam Huntington in Clash of Civilizations.
00:32:43.000You have this group of people, you have a certain ruling elite in the West, in the United States, in Europe, which is holding us back from embracing our identity, from embracing the inevitable and deciding our future, having an assertive identity and being able to assert that interest in the future against these other.
00:33:05.000Revisionist powers like China and Russia.
00:33:07.000There is a certain ruling elite in Brussels, Belgium, which is the chair that's the seat of power in the European Union and Europe, and people in Washington, D.C., in the United States, a certain ruling class, transnational, cosmopolitan class of people who want to hold us back.
00:33:24.000And they're saying that in this age of globalization, with the comms technology, with the transportation technology, we have to embrace a global identity, we have to erase borders.
00:33:35.000With all these people smashing together, instead of defining our differences, negotiating them, respecting boundaries, respecting different spaces and different cultures and customs, and giving people free spaces where they can live in their own way that they want to live, well, they say, no, we have to mix.
00:33:54.000We have to make them into one another.
00:33:56.000And now we have this expression that a place like Sweden is now an international country, and the United Kingdom is an international country, and the United States must embrace diversity.
00:34:17.000This is one of many instances where we will see this issue put to a vote, where we will see a decision made and there will be action had on it.
00:34:39.000For Africa and the Middle East and Latin America, not just in Italy and in Europe, but in the United States?
00:34:45.000Or are we going to embrace who we are?
00:34:47.000Are we going to let guilt and accusations of racism and this projection of some like sterilized progressive version of morality prevent us from embracing our identity?
00:35:02.000We know our strengths, we know our weaknesses, and now we face the world, and now we face China, and now we face Japan and Russia, and we do it.
00:35:11.000Confident in who we are, confident in what we're about, and that's what's going to be on for a vote on Sunday in Italy.
00:35:17.000So that's the Italian elections, pretty exciting stuff.
00:36:00.000But I think that ultimately the demographics are on our side.
00:36:03.000I think this anger that you're seeing in Italy is in many ways a white pill because it shows that when pushed to a certain point, people are going to start to figure it out.
00:36:12.000They're going to start to figure it out what's happening and what needs to be done.
00:36:16.000There's this fear, I think, in the West, and maybe more rightfully so in the United States because we don't have as strong an ethnic identity and we don't have as much time.
00:36:24.000We don't have a solid demographic base like Italy does.
00:36:33.000But the white pill in Italy is that they will only be pushed to a certain point before there is resistance.
00:36:39.000There's the paranoia, like I was saying before, that like, oh, we'll just take this sitting down and people will never see this and it'll be too late.
00:36:47.000I think what we're seeing on the continent, whether it's being totally actualized, whether they're winning elections, it is there.
00:36:54.000And the people that are in charge know it's there.
00:36:58.000Around the Western world, whether you see the censorship laws or you see the crackdown on these Eastern European countries and these other measures that have been taken, there is a panic.
00:37:07.000And they're panicking because they know it's a very fragile system.
00:37:09.000And all it takes is a little push, and we are fighting for our lives.
00:37:18.000The invaders, the migrants, the people that are coming to these countries to take them over, they will not be able to win a conflict on our home soil because we're fighting for our land.
00:37:41.000Such a shame to see an historical place like Italy.
00:37:43.000You see these pictures of a city like Paris or a city like Rome or some of these ancient cities where there's real history there.
00:37:52.000They go back thousands of years and the architecture has been there forever and some shops and businesses have been there forever and families have been there forever and there's a real.
00:38:01.000Culture, real history, it took a long time to cultivate.
00:38:04.000And you have people that come over here and you see what happens, whether it's at a bus stop or at these different restaurants, the things where these people come over and they act like animals, these migrants, in many cases.
00:38:16.000So it really is just a travesty to see the height of human civilization, the peak of human civilization, artistically, culturally, technologically, and we're going to throw it all in the garbage.
00:38:28.000We're going to say, yeah, well, we had a nice run.
00:38:51.000Let's just hope that bringing in millions of people who don't know how to make a functional society, let's just hope this little experiment works out.
00:38:59.000Because it really, what it comes down to is this is an experiment.
00:39:02.000That's kind of the thing is like they're saying it'll work out.
00:39:06.000Diversity will work out and it'll make us stronger.
00:39:11.000The record of history is on our side, and they could do their econometrician studies and say, oh, well, it's actually a good thing, but they don't know.
00:39:24.000And when we're essentially going to, we're putting all in, we're going to bet all our chips, everything we've ever worked for, bled for, sweat for, our children's lives, their children's futures, we're going all in on diversity.
00:39:37.000So the next time you see one of these African migrants in Europe, one of these real beauties, one of these African migrants who they don't know how to speak the native language, they're illiterate, and they don't have any marketable skills, and a lot of them are just on welfare and they're violent.
00:39:51.000Next time you see a video of an African migrant punching one of the native girls in the face or raping them, just think to yourself, we're going all in with everything we've ever had on those people being able to assimilate and contribute in the same way as everybody else.
00:40:33.000You know, they make fun of us for being angry.
00:40:35.000They're like, the right wing is, they're angry.
00:40:38.000They're not like, and by the way, they're angry too.
00:40:40.000But they say the right wing, they're these angry white males.
00:40:43.000Yeah, it kind of makes us mad when people take a steaming hot dump on the glory of our civilization.
00:40:50.000Yeah, it kind of, you know, irks people a little bit.
00:40:54.000You call a black person the wrong thing and they're entitled to burn down the whole city.
00:40:58.000You call a black person a colored person instead of a person of color and they burn down the whole city and it's like, oh, well, you did call them a colored person.
00:41:06.000You have people come over to Italy and they burn the flag.
00:42:29.000The Latin masses are the least cucked, I would imagine, simply because you tend to have a more traditionalist atmosphere.
00:42:36.000People that operate these tend to be more traditionalist Catholics.
00:42:40.000So I would say if you could find a Latin mass near you, that would probably be the best option.
00:42:45.000Other than that, you just kind of have to shop around.
00:42:47.000I don't know if it comes down to asking questions.
00:42:49.000I think the important thing is not so much what a pastor might say, so much as it is the purpose of the mass is a sacrifice to God, the purpose of the mass is to worship God.
00:43:00.000So, I've been to my church before, and they say some things I don't totally agree with, but it doesn't really bother me because I'm not there for the priest talking about politics.
00:45:02.000Islam is traditional compared to what's going on in Europe.
00:45:06.000And so I've said before as well, you know, people say, oh, well, Nick, how is that any different than radical Islam and this and that when I preach traditionalism?
00:45:14.000And I say, well, in many ways, it's the same.
00:47:48.000Look, the name is just a little bit LARPy to me.
00:47:51.000Like I said, I don't know anything about the guy, but I am familiar with him, kind of.
00:47:56.000And just the name, it's just here you may have somebody who has talent.
00:47:59.000Here you may have somebody who is smart and who knows what's going on, but to present as I'm Augustus Invictus, isn't that a little bit LARPy?
00:48:10.000We have to get back to a packaging for our message that is at the very, at the At the bedrock, at the very least, it does not detract from the message.
00:48:19.000It does not distract from the message.
00:48:23.000I think I figured that out pretty much on the show.
00:48:25.000But many people in this movement, the optics, they've allowed the packaging which they want to indulge themselves, they let that get in the way of the message.
00:48:35.000I don't care so much if we have to go by John Smith of the grand old party and we're these regular conservatives if I can get what I want passed.
00:49:21.000If you have an explosive IG report come out in March, and it's set to come out in late March, early April, IG report comes out from Horowitz and commissioned by the Justice Department, and the left says this explosive stuff is nonsense.
00:49:35.000It's a mouthpiece for the Trump administration.
00:49:49.000Well, the media, it gives them a certain credibility in the eyes of the media, it gives them a certain credibility in the eyes of The public, where when the IG report comes out from an Obama guy under commission from the Justice Department, led by Sessions, who is maybe distant from the Trump administration, well, then they can't say, oh, well, Sessions is just a puppet.
00:50:08.000He's just a pawn of Trump, and Horowitz is a pawn of Trump.
00:50:12.000So I do believe that is the play there.
00:50:14.000I could be proven wrong, but I think that is what's going on.
00:50:17.000Because the IG report will be looking into Clinton stuff, Obama stuff.
00:50:21.000This is very partisan stuff, where if it just came out of the Trump administration without any qualification, The left, the middle, would say, What is this?
00:50:35.000But if there's at least an appearance, a resemblance of maybe this independence granted by Trump distancing himself from those two, I think you get a little bit more credibility on it.
00:50:47.000The right leaf landed an IB internship.
00:50:58.000The system got to infiltrate, got to penetrate.
00:51:01.000You know, you look at, for example, the Zionists are a great example of how to organize for political interest because here's a group of people with a cause that was not popular, even among their own community, but broadly among Americans.
00:51:14.000A very small group of people, but the kinds of people in that movement were top shelf people.
00:51:20.000It was a small group, but these people were lawyers, they were doctors, they were financiers, they were politicians, judges, and all the rest.
00:51:27.000And when you have a very motivated group of people with skills, with cloud, with resources, the sky's the limit.
00:51:33.000So we should take a page out of their playbook in that regard.
00:51:37.000Nick, what part of Italy are your ancestors from?
00:52:39.000Al-Sabadi says, from my cold, dead hands, you can effing count on it.
00:52:44.000Trump let us down because a Jewish Florida school had bad things happen to it and calls whites cowards.
00:52:52.000You know, I think what Trump is doing again, not to go the whole 4D chess thing, but this is a public negotiation on guns, just like it was with DACA.
00:53:10.000Just like with DACA, just like with DACA the first time, just like with Iran, just like with Syria, just like with Jerusalem, and on and on and on and on.
00:53:48.000We're going to do this, that, and the other.
00:53:51.000So I think when Trump says these kinds of things, more often than not, that is either a play to mobilize his base or to frame it for the left and the middle.
00:53:59.000And again, I've always maintained the same position.
00:54:03.000If he goes in and he does something completely unreasonable on firearms, like you confiscate before due process, or he raises the age to 21, or he does something obscene with gun regulations in the Congress.
00:55:31.000Who are the people that are buying sporting goods?
00:55:32.000Is it like metrosexual cosmopolitans in big cities?
00:55:36.000Is it these eunuchs that are going to cheer this measure?
00:55:39.000Or is it people that go to Dick Sporting Goods to buy fishing equipment and go there to buy, what, baseball equipment and firearms and hunting stuff?
00:55:49.000And I'm not even sure where their stores are located, but I would imagine, if you've ever been in Dick Sporting Goods, a lot of outdoors kinds of stuff.
00:55:58.000I would imagine they probably do better in states that are more red.
00:56:02.000Because you have more outdoorsy type people, but that's just a postulate.
00:56:18.000This super chat was in pounds, so maybe this is a British expression, but I don't know what that means.
00:56:24.000Dan, man, have you read Hans Hermann Hoppe yet?
00:56:27.000I've read some of his essays, I've read some of his speeches, but I haven't read, for example, his on, what is it, From Monarchy to Aristocracy to Democracy.
00:56:37.000He's a very good, he's really the reason.
00:56:39.000A lot of his thinking and some of these other right libertarians were what got me from libertarian to right wing because I saw, you know, political liberty is not actually the best way to secure other forms of liberty in the sense that in many cases you're better off with an enlightened despot like an Augusto Pinochet or, you know, Frederick William the Great to go back further than you are under a tyranny of the transient majority.
00:57:04.000So Hoppe, I think, understood better than most that.
00:57:09.000You need to have some kind of institution in Gavramoch can secure liberty.
00:57:13.000And that's really the important thing, not so much the methodology.
00:57:18.000Joe the Serb, my boy Nick now has a knife as sharp as his wits.
00:58:13.000Like Mitt Romney, who says, I just got on the show.
00:58:16.000So sorry for being off topic, but how do you think this DACA situation will go down with the courts?
00:58:20.000I think inevitably they'll rule in favor of Trump.
00:58:23.000It'll take a little bit longer because the Supreme Court said you have to go through the appeals court.
00:58:29.000And so it'll take a little bit longer.
00:58:30.000But I think inevitably the result will be the same.
00:58:32.000I don't think there's any way either the appeals courts, and if not the appeals courts, the Supreme Court can interpret the law in such a way that President Trump cannot unilaterally, by executive order, Reverse an executive order by a previous president, right?
00:58:47.000I don't understand how that would make any sense.
00:58:50.000If President Trump were not able to revoke that executive order, that would be a pretty wild precedent.
00:58:57.000That would mean that anything that Trump established by executive fiat, a successor to his administration would be impotent to turn it around or to reverse it or to modify it.
00:59:20.000That's kind of the thing, is, well, I would say this.
00:59:27.000Nostalgic about because we're in kind of this cultural wasteland.
00:59:31.000But even still, people have sentimental connections to the culture, as depraved as it is, as hollow as it is.
00:59:38.000I think people still have these touchstones for their culture.
00:59:41.000You know, I'll hear songs, I'll see silly corporate things from my childhood, and it does bring back childhood memories.
00:59:48.000I think that's kind of a statement on the resilience, maybe, of the human spirit.
00:59:54.000That even though we have messages and symbols, And culture that has no intrinsic meaning, we can project meaning onto it.
01:00:05.000And I think that's really a testament to what we're all about in the sense that you could watch, you could listen to the pop garbage and music and movies and whatever and still have a very meaningful memory about it.
01:00:34.000I'm not, but I'm saying, you know, smartphones are everywhere.
01:00:37.000And for, I guess, maybe younger Generation Z, they don't remember this, but as an older Generation Z, I remember when cell phones weren't common.
01:00:44.000I remember when people didn't have smartphones at all.
01:00:47.000And when you went on the computer, it was this big chore, it was this big hassle, and technology was kind of a pain.
01:02:27.000We like to go and see other people's dogs.
01:02:29.000But then you get a dog in your own home and you become like that person.
01:02:33.000You become that dog person where people without dogs go to your house and they knock on the door and you hear emanating from the bowels of the house this obnoxious, this odious barking.
01:02:44.000Echoing throughout the chamber of the house, and then you hear the running up and the scratching at the door, and you think, Oh, oh, brother, you know.
01:02:52.000And then you hear somebody rushing up to the door, opening the door, and the dog's jumping.
01:04:15.000In Boston, they do it a little bit differently.
01:04:17.000This is what I observed there, where they do this weird, what do you call it, like Fenway style, where they do it in a piece of white bread and they put the hot dog in.
01:05:48.000But I don't know who the hard right is.
01:05:50.000I guess if Coach Redpill uses it to mean like the right stuff and these kinds of people, I don't identify as hard right then.
01:05:56.000But yeah, it's kind of curious with the MGTOW question where they want to have it at once where they like make fun of them, but at the same time they have the Thought Patrol.
01:06:05.000This was one of the chief paradoxes of James Alsop's opposition to the Thought Wars.
01:06:11.000Was that he, you know, our whole brand was Thought Patrol and then suddenly didn't like it?
01:07:50.000I mean, on the one hand, There is a very conservative opposition to homosexuality in the sense that we Catholics and conservatives see these tendencies as unnatural, as deviant, as disordered.
01:08:05.000So I don't know, unless they're, I don't know if they would have a natural inclination towards that.
01:08:25.000But I think as it stands right now, the situation is that most are not.
01:08:30.000And most, their identity is their homosexuality.
01:08:33.000I think it's been thrust upon them in that way.
01:08:35.000The only way I would see them going right is because of Islam.
01:08:38.000Because, and that's kind of ironic, a real conservative social force comes in and the right co ops opposition to that with the homosexuals.
01:11:04.000I don't know if you were banned for being a FOD or for being a FAD.
01:11:08.000I'll have to look into that a little bit.
01:11:11.000But I don't know if it's really that simple in the sense that it's a little bit presumptuous, don't you think, to start thinking about, like, Asians and Zionists fighting each other, and there being a big push for them to be more diverse.
01:11:25.000I don't think you'll ever see a push for diversity in China and Japan like you do in the West because there hasn't been that liberal tradition.
01:11:34.000There hasn't been that international tradition in China and Japan in the sense that we see who the proponents of these things are this urban, cosmopolitan, international people.
01:11:44.000They don't exist in China and Japan in the same capacity.
01:11:47.000Certainly, there are some global influences, but they're not in positions of power.
01:11:51.000Who's going to be in charge for the next two decades?