America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - The Nicholas J. Fuentes Show | The Nicholas J. Fuentes Show Episode 1

00:00:06.000 Hello, everybody.

00:00:07.000 I am Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:08.000 You're watching the Nicholas J. Fuentes Show.

00:00:11.000 Since this is our first episode, I thought I'd offer a brief introduction.

00:00:15.000 I am a libertarian with a small L, a Republican, and a constitutionalist.

00:00:20.000 I believe in individualism, American exceptionalism, and small government.

00:00:24.000 Now, our first topic for our first episode is the 2016 presidential election.

00:00:29.000 Now, this election has been crazy, literally crazy. 0.58

00:00:34.000 We have Lindsey Graham destroying his cell phone with a golf club.

00:00:37.000 We have Donald Trump telling us we're going to get tired of winning.

00:00:40.000 We have Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Bernie Sanders.

00:00:43.000 Who could have seen this one coming?

00:00:45.000 Now we're going to break down each candidate.

00:00:47.000 We're going to start with the Republicans and then follow up with the Democrats and have a panel discussion following my introductions.

00:00:53.000 Now we're going to start with Ben Carson.

00:00:55.000 Now he's at 29% in the latest NBC poll.

00:00:58.000 Now, Ben Carson's platform is not what's important about Ben Carson.

00:01:02.000 What's important about Ben Carson is that he's an outsider.

00:01:05.000 He has no experience, and yet he's the GOP frontrunner. 0.94

00:01:08.000 He's a neurosurgeon that says that being gay is a choice.

00:01:12.000 He said that evolution isn't real. 0.93

00:01:14.000 He's a creationist.

00:01:15.000 And he's at 29%.

00:01:17.000 This is important because he's breaking the monopoly, not just of the Republican establishment, but of the political correctness police.

00:01:23.000 And this is huge.

00:01:24.000 This is a revolution.

00:01:26.000 Now, having said that, his platform is also important in that it barely exists.

00:01:31.000 The only thing that he's offered up is a tax plan, a 10% tithing program, which resembles the Old Testament.

00:01:38.000 Now, it's something that's new and fresh for conservatives.

00:01:40.000 They like the Tea Party face, they like the Tea Party ideas, but it's something that people have challenged on legitimacy.

00:01:46.000 Can he win the nomination and will he win the general?

00:01:50.000 Number two, we have Donald Trump.

00:01:52.000 Now, everyone's been talking about the Trump phenomenon and it is important and historic.

00:01:57.000 What do you have to consider about Donald Trump is that he's not an ideologue, he is an opportunist.

00:02:02.000 He's not a conservative and it doesn't matter what he is because all he wants is power.

00:02:06.000 Now, it's clear that he's not a conservative.

00:02:07.000 If you look at any history of him on the issues, he's been pro abortion, he's been anti property rights, he's pro protectionism in this election.

00:02:15.000 His immigration policy resembles Patrick Starr's. 0.98

00:02:18.000 We're going to take the immigrants and push them somewhere else. 1.00

00:02:21.000 Basically, ridiculous. 1.00

00:02:22.000 Now, Donald Trump is doing so well because he appeals to the Republicans not in fighting the Democrats, but in fighting the establishment. 0.76

00:02:29.000 We haven't fought the Democrats since 2012, since Mitt Romney ran against Barack Obama.

00:02:34.000 Since then, the Republicans have not been fighting the Democrats, but other Republicans, rhinos, Republicans in name only.

00:02:41.000 And Donald Trump has served a very important function in breaking the monopoly of John Boehner, of Paul Ryan, of Renz Priebus, and having people of, by, and for the people they were intended to represent.

00:02:53.000 Now, having said that, Donald Trump has served his function.

00:02:56.000 His time is over.

00:02:57.000 It's time for serious candidates.

00:02:58.000 Let the adults talk, Donald.

00:03:00.000 We don't need the exclamatory phrases, the borderline racist remarks.

00:03:05.000 Now we need real candidates.

00:03:07.000 Now, having said that, coming in third is Marco Rubio.

00:03:11.000 Now, he is also not a real conservative.

00:03:13.000 Sure, he talks a good game and he's a household favorite in a lot of conservative houses.

00:03:19.000 But if you break down his policies, if you break down his platform, he really isn't a real conservative.

00:03:24.000 Take his tax plan, for example.

00:03:25.000 Now, in this election, for the first time in history, three Republicans are offering a flat tax program Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Ben Carson.

00:03:34.000 Marco Rubio, a progressive tax.

00:03:37.000 Now, he is cutting tax rates.

00:03:38.000 His top marginal tax rate in his tax plan would be 35%, down from 39.6%.

00:03:44.000 That's a modest decrease.

00:03:46.000 It's not something that a lot of people have hoped for.

00:03:48.000 But if you break down the actual tax plan, he's lowered the threshold to pay those lower tax rates.

00:03:54.000 So, where previously, You had to make $400,000 to pay 35%.

00:03:59.000 Now you only have to make $75,000.

00:04:02.000 This amounts to a huge tax increase on millions of Americans.

00:04:06.000 Not exactly conservative.

00:04:08.000 Not only that, but on the face of it, his slogan for his tax plan is unapologetically pro family and pro growth.

00:04:15.000 I'm sorry, how is a tax plan supposed to be pro family?

00:04:19.000 A conservative believes the government should be out of society, should have less functions, because it's incompetent, because it has unintended consequences.

00:04:26.000 So for a tax plan to re engineer the entire family, for it to be an experiment for social engineering, is not conservative at all.

00:04:34.000 It's statist.

00:04:35.000 That's why Marco Rubio is not a real conservative. 1.00

00:04:38.000 Now, in addition to that, he's a liar. 0.95

00:04:40.000 He's railed against Hillary Clinton for about four years about Benghazi, about the email scandal. 0.95

00:04:45.000 But look at what Marco Rubio has been saying.

00:04:47.000 In the last debate, when asked about his finances, his poor credit history, he shrugged it off.

00:04:52.000 He said that that's an example of the double standard of the media.

00:04:55.000 Not true at all.

00:04:57.000 Very valid points.

00:04:58.000 Marco Rubio does not have a sound credit history.

00:05:00.000 His finances have been a mess.

00:05:02.000 His voting record is abysmal.

00:05:04.000 He has no experience.

00:05:05.000 And he has a lot of charisma.

00:05:07.000 This resembles Barack Obama, not Reagan.

00:05:10.000 Coming in at fourth with 10% is Ted Cruz.

00:05:13.000 Now, Ted Cruz is the real deal.

00:05:15.000 If Marco Rubio wasn't a liar, if he was a real conservative, then you would get Ted Cruz.

00:05:19.000 Ted Cruz is a very impressive person.

00:05:22.000 He went to Harvard, he went to Princeton, he was a debating champion at both.

00:05:26.000 He's the youngest Solicitor General in the history of the United States and argued before the Supreme Court nine times.

00:05:34.000 This is more than any lawyer currently serving in Texas and more than any member of Congress.

00:05:39.000 Now, Ted Cruz has been fighting for the Constitution.

00:05:42.000 His entire life.

00:05:42.000 When he was 13, he was studying Bastiat, Hayek, Mises.

00:05:46.000 This is a real grassroots conservative.

00:05:49.000 Despite the fact that he's in the Senate, that he's technically not an outsider because he's in D.C., he's been fighting against his own party as well as the Democrats for as long as he's been in the Senate.

00:05:59.000 Now, I would say he resembles a Rand Paul, conservative for individual rights, for economic liberty, but with a stronger foreign policy.

00:06:07.000 And this is important because a lot of people are very wary to jump on the Rand Paul bandwagon because he's so weak on foreign policy.

00:06:14.000 So, Ted Cruz is one to watch.

00:06:16.000 Coming in at fifth, we have Jeb Bush with 8%.

00:06:20.000 What more to say than why?

00:06:22.000 How out of touch is the Republican establishment and the Republican Party that a Bush would be the favorite for 2016?

00:06:31.000 If you've ever talked to a young person, they're not huge George W. Bush fans.

00:06:36.000 Nobody really is.

00:06:37.000 Now, in spite of the fact that he protected our country and Jeb Bush is very eager to throw out that talking point, people just don't like Bushes.

00:06:44.000 And in spite of all that, there are 14 qualified, competent candidates.

00:06:49.000 We have a neurosurgeon, we have two business people, we have two Cubans, and we're going to put in an old white guy, a Bush from Florida, who's pro Common Core and wants a progressive tax rate. 0.92

00:07:00.000 It's just ridiculous. 0.89

00:07:01.000 It's almost like the Republicans don't want the White House or any power in Washington.

00:07:05.000 Coming in at sixth, we have Carly Fiorina at 3%. 0.99

00:07:09.000 Now, she's slowed down considerably since her stellar performance in the second debate, and a lot of people like Carly Fiorina. 1.00

00:07:15.000 She's very articulate, she's very conservative, and apparently very muscular on foreign policy. 0.98

00:07:20.000 But again, you have to look deeper.

00:07:22.000 If you're looking at a Rubio or a Free Arena just for their charisma, you're committing the same sin that the Democrats did with Obama back in 2008.

00:07:31.000 You have to look at the platform.

00:07:32.000 Now, in the second debate, she did so well because she railed against Vladimir Putin.

00:07:36.000 She'd rebuild the Sixth Fleet, rebuilding missile defense in Czech Republic and Poland.

00:07:41.000 Now, this appears like a very muscular foreign policy, but if you break it down, it actually doesn't add up very much.

00:07:47.000 She says that she wants to conduct military exercises in the Baltics.

00:07:51.000 We're already doing that.

00:07:53.000 And it's not working.

00:07:54.000 She says she wants to rebuild missile defense in Poland and the Czech Republic.

00:07:57.000 The reason that we scaled it back was to rebuild a stronger, better one.

00:08:01.000 So that's fundamentally misleading.

00:08:03.000 Rebuilding the Sixth Fleet is a drop in the bucket compared to the Navy that we have. 0.79

00:08:07.000 Carly Fiorina, we have to look seriously at her platform before we consider an outsider who's running just on talking points.

00:08:13.000 Coming in at 7th is Mike Huckabee at 3%.

00:08:17.000 Not much to say about Mike Huckabee, other than the only issue he seems to be concerned about is the VAT tax, the value added tax, and gay marriage. 0.77

00:08:25.000 Now, I'll start with gay marriage.

00:08:26.000 That is a lost cause for conservatives.

00:08:29.000 Now, we lost the political decision in June with the Supreme Court decision that gay marriage is legal in all 50 states.

00:08:35.000 But we lost the cultural battle about 10 years ago, probably when Glee aired.

00:08:39.000 Now, the biggest problem with conservatives is that they fall into these traps.

00:08:42.000 They answer gotcha questions.

00:08:44.000 They say what they actually believe, and the media doesn't like it.

00:08:48.000 But Mike Huckabee's not doing that.

00:08:50.000 He's attacking them on an issue that conservatives have already lost on, that nobody's with conservatives on at all.

00:08:57.000 Now, on top of that, his value added tax, probably the most unique part of his platform, is big government.

00:09:03.000 Now, sure, it is very effective at collecting taxes, but that's the problem of it.

00:09:08.000 The value added tax.

00:09:09.000 Has it so that taxes can be levied on businesses, so that consumers don't see them, so that citizens don't see them, so that it is a blank check for government to raise taxes and increase the size and scope of the federal government without the people knowing about it.

00:09:23.000 Not exactly conservative principles.

00:09:26.000 Coming in at 8th, we have John Kasich.

00:09:29.000 Now, again, the question for John Kasich is why?

00:09:32.000 We already have three moderate governors running, none of which appeal to the Tea Party, none of which appeal to the grassroots, none of which appeal to the establishment.

00:09:41.000 Why are we supporting John Kasich?

00:09:43.000 There's nothing really notable about his platform.

00:09:45.000 He hasn't really presented a platform.

00:09:47.000 Every chance he gets on air, all he talks about is his record, and everyone has a record.

00:09:52.000 Now, John Kasich will win Ohio, but even Walter Mondale won Minnesota.

00:09:57.000 Coming in at ninth, we have Chris Christie, 3%.

00:10:00.000 Again, the question is why?

00:10:02.000 Nobody likes Chris Christie.

00:10:03.000 He had huge momentum in 2012 after he delivered his speech at Mitt Romney's nomination, but after that, after he hugged Obama, after he supported NSA spying, why should any conservative vote?

00:10:14.000 For him.

00:10:15.000 He's also not a conservative.

00:10:17.000 Coming in at 10th, last but not least, is Rand Paul.

00:10:21.000 Now, admittedly, Rand Paul is my favorite because of his tax plan.

00:10:24.000 His tax plan is the most conservative out of the entire race.

00:10:27.000 Arguably, he's the only conservative in the entire race.

00:10:31.000 His flat tax, which is specific, unlike Ben Carson's tithing plan, is 14.5% for all individuals.

00:10:37.000 He'll cut down the 78,000 page tax code to about three pages.

00:10:42.000 No loopholes, no deductions, very simple, very effective, pro liberty, not pro family, not pro social engineering.

00:10:48.000 Pro Liberty, small government.

00:10:51.000 In addition to that, not just a tax plan to get the base fired up, he also introduced a budget plan to get a balanced budget in five years.

00:10:59.000 Now, Paul Ryan's is 10 years, and that's optimistic. 0.82

00:11:01.000 He's dealing with Congress that's full of statists and Rhinos, Republicans, and name only. 0.91

00:11:07.000 Now, in addition to that, Rand Paul is pro Liberty, not just on the fiscal issues, not just on the defense issues that are easy to get behind, but also for criminal justice reform, for legalizing marijuana and other drugs.

00:11:18.000 Rand Paul's the only real conservative, and it's tragic that he's not doing as well as he should because we're Cherishing style over substance.

00:11:25.000 Now, panel.

00:11:28.000 The first question, I guess the most important question, is this Who do you think will be the GOP nominee?

00:11:33.000 JP, we'll start with you.

00:11:35.000 I'm going to be completely honest, and I honestly have no idea at this point in time.

00:11:41.000 I had my feelings about Scott Walker before he decided to drop out, and personally, I think it's kind of absurd that he was the first one to do so, given that we have people like the Jim Gilmores and the Lindsey Grahams who.

00:11:55.000 They have their respective policies and they have their own strengths and weaknesses, but in reality, they're not serious candidates.

00:12:00.000 And I think Scott Walker had the potential to be that serious candidate.

00:12:04.000 I just think he played his cards in the wrong way and he didn't necessarily use all of his strengths in the debates.

00:12:11.000 So if you asked me today who the nominee was going to be tomorrow and you needed a definitive answer, I couldn't necessarily give you one.

00:12:18.000 I think, like you said, Donald Trump, he did what he had to do to get himself into the race by being that bulldog, you know, knit.

00:12:26.000 Insulting people, throwing out those racy comments because that's what was going to get him the publicity.

00:12:31.000 But it's time for him to become a serious candidate if that is truly what he wants to be.

00:12:35.000 He needs to start putting out those policy questions and he needs to actually answer those questions rather than avoiding them and just going back to what he has done for so long in that he's just kind of insulted people and, you know, drawing a large crowd with his insults.

00:12:50.000 Right, that's a good point.

00:12:51.000 Colin, what do you think?

00:12:52.000 Well, I think there's a lot of, I guess, just Toss up element to two candidates in particular.

00:13:00.000 I think Ben Carson and Rubio are probably the two strongest candidate choices I think we're going to see, probably coming down to being the big frontrunners when the primary actually happens.

00:13:10.000 I think Carson appeals to a lot of the more right leaning conservatives rather than the moderate conservatives, whereas Rubio is the opposite.

00:13:18.000 He's more moderate than the others.

00:13:19.000 As you said, he's not a conservative.

00:13:21.000 And while I disagree with that, I do think that he does fulfill that moderate role.

00:13:26.000 Similarly, the Democrats have chosen Hillary for. 0.69

00:13:29.000 It's that people are going for safe politics.

00:13:32.000 I think typically that's just how America has been, and I think that a Carson or definitely a Trump can scare people away.

00:13:38.000 And I think that, especially if Trump doesn't really step up and become serious, like JP had said, I think that Carson's probably going to keep going, but I don't think he's going to have enough momentum.

00:13:49.000 I think Rubio's going to probably get the nomination.

00:13:51.000 Agreed, and that's a very smart answer.

00:13:53.000 Traditionally, Republicans have been playing it safe, and I think.

00:13:57.000 And I think this is true that that's been a detriment to the Republican Party.

00:14:00.000 You look at John McCain in 2008.

00:14:02.000 The only reason conservatives were enthusiastic about John McCain was Sarah Palin.

00:14:07.000 Now, she's derided by the mainstream media, derided by the Democrats, but she was the reason that John McCain even did as well as he did.

00:14:13.000 And that wasn't very good at all.

00:14:14.000 2012, same thing.

00:14:16.000 Mitt Romney, moderate.

00:14:17.000 Nobody could get excited about him.

00:14:19.000 Do you think that's a mistake for the Republicans to nominate Marco Rubio if he's the best chance for a legitimate, moderate candidate?

00:14:26.000 I don't think so, because, and this is one point that I was going to get at, is You see, with the recent election of Paul Ryan as the House Speaker, I think it's kind of a symbol of a shift in not political power per se, but a shift in generational superiority, not superiority, but it's a change in generation for politics altogether.

00:14:46.000 You see that with Marco Rubio.

00:14:47.000 That's why a lot of people like him, is because he is young.

00:14:50.000 He's 44 years old.

00:14:51.000 Paul Ryan's 45.

00:14:53.000 So I would have a hard time seeing a switch back to the old school politics, at least in the House.

00:15:00.000 I don't know if you're going to see that on the campaign trail.

00:15:02.000 It's kind of going to depend on how the rest of the primaries go.

00:15:05.000 But I think that that's a lot of the reason why people do like Marco Rubio is because of his youth.

00:15:09.000 Whether or not that's a good decision, I think that remains to be seen and how he kind of carries himself down the road because, you know, the last time we elected a freshman senator, we got Obama, and a lot of people aren't happy with that.

00:15:22.000 So I think there are advantages and disadvantages with going with Marco Rubio.

00:15:27.000 He has a very good performance in debates, he's a good speaker, he does good in the interviews that he does.

00:15:34.000 But I think ultimately it just kind of depends on how he carries himself down the road.

00:15:38.000 Agreed.

00:15:39.000 And so, given that, I know a lot of the mainstream media, Fox News included, even conservative mainstream media, has said that Marco Rubio is the legitimate front runner.

00:15:47.000 Colin, why do you think that is?

00:15:49.000 Why do you think that people see Ben Carson and Trump fizzling out?

00:15:52.000 Where are they going to go?

00:15:53.000 Are they going to disappear before the primaries?

00:15:55.000 I think it's kind of an interesting thing because, as you had said earlier, Trump's kind of said all these kind of crazy things to get people's attention.

00:16:03.000 And I think Carson has kind of done the similar thing with throwing out some ideas that are more right wing than the typical moderate part of the Republican Party.

00:16:11.000 And I think in doing that, he's garnered support just like Trump, but because he's not so blatant about it, he's garnered that support.

00:16:19.000 And I think that once people kind of take a step back and, at least if they were to pay attention to trends, they'd realize that.

00:16:26.000 America doesn't really want to vote far right, and if you're going to have some sort of difference between Hillary and one of the other Republicans, your choices would be best to be a moderate or a moderate.

00:16:39.000 I mean, if it were to be Sanders, which I don't think he's getting it, we'll talk about that later, but I think then maybe a more radical choice of Republicans would be interesting at the very least, polarizing the American people.

00:16:49.000 But I think Rubio's legitimacy comes out of his moderate attitudes towards a lot of things, and I think that he's probably, maybe not.

00:16:57.000 The most legitimate, but at the very least, the most safe candidate for the Republicans.

00:17:01.000 And that's a fair point.

00:17:02.000 And we've been talking mostly about strategicity, as George W. Bush would say, in politics.

00:17:08.000 But in regards to what's healthy for democracy, what's right, what is best for a representative democratic republic, do you think the American people would be more benefited to have a Bernie Sanders versus a Ben Carson ideological battle or safe moderate candidate to win elections like Hillary and Jeb Bush?

00:17:27.000 What do you think?

00:17:29.000 It's hard to say because when you do get to the opposite ends of the spectrum, the people that are going to be their main cheerleaders for these two candidates are going to be the people that are very right or very left.

00:17:40.000 You're not going to see many moderate Republicans or Democrats putting their full support behind the candidates.

00:17:46.000 They're going to be more like picking the lesser of two evils, as a lot of people would put it.

00:17:52.000 I think that a lot of people, the fear that they would have with a Bernie Sanders is that a lot of people, and he's ran as a socialist.

00:18:00.000 America has its history as a capitalist nation and free markets, and you know, all that great capitalist ideals that a lot of people in America love.

00:18:09.000 And their theory with Bernie Sanders is that we're going to move away from that.

00:18:14.000 In regards to like Ben Carson, I'm not very familiar with his platforms because, as you said, he hasn't put a lot out there to you know, rein in and you know, pick apart.

00:18:24.000 But I think that it would kind of make more sense for America if they were to go more moderate because it's more in line, it can appeal to more people.

00:18:34.000 Than if you go one way or the other, because you're not going to get a far left person voting for a far right.

00:18:39.000 But if you could maybe get a far left person going for a more person in the middle ground.

00:18:45.000 So I think it kind of just depends on who the individual is.

00:18:48.000 Right.

00:18:49.000 Colin?

00:18:50.000 Well, I think the question of kind of forcing people to choose between a Carson and a Sanders, we're kind of going a little bit ahead of ourselves there.

00:18:57.000 But I think that that would maybe have some implications for our democracy that would be very, I guess, experimental.

00:19:05.000 Quite clearly, if you had to choose between a far left and a far right, I think that the purpose of democracy is to have the candidates who you want to win win.

00:19:14.000 And I don't think that they're choosing these candidates not just because they're safe, but also because I think the American people kind of like that safeness.

00:19:21.000 We've never really been very radical as a country when it comes to either full capitalism or socialism, definitely.

00:19:28.000 But I think that maybe that moderate choice is what the American people want, though the success of Carson and Trump has shown that.

00:19:36.000 There is a prevalence of a relatively far right wing in American politics, and Sanders has a pretty good presence of left wing.

00:19:43.000 So, I would say that maybe for fostering a new democracy and changing things up, it would be interesting, but I don't know if it's maybe the best way to really frame a democracy.

00:19:54.000 I think you should probably go with the candidates that people want rather than forcing them to choose ones that would just kind of shake things up a little bit.

00:20:02.000 Very true.

00:20:03.000 And I think actually it's more so the other way around.

00:20:05.000 I think you'd have a Jeb Bush or a Scott Walker or a Marco Rubio being forced on people rather than a Ben Carson.

00:20:11.000 I think at heart, Most people like the guys, like the Ben Carsons, the Rand Pauls, who say the things they're thinking, like the way they're thinking them, but they think that they can't win.

00:20:22.000 I've heard that time and time again.

00:20:23.000 You like Rand Paul?

00:20:24.000 Do you like that platform?

00:20:25.000 You like Ben Carson?

00:20:26.000 And the answer is always, well, yeah, but they'll never win.

00:20:28.000 I think that's sort of a problem, JP.

00:20:30.000 I think that a lot of times, and we see this in societies today, that political correctness, you know, you see that a lot in politics.

00:20:38.000 You have to say the right thing if you want to get elected.

00:20:40.000 You can't say this, you can't say that.

00:20:42.000 And I think that's kind of just like.

00:20:44.000 A testament to where we've come as a society.

00:20:47.000 When PC was first introduced, you know, in the 60s and 70s, it was definitely necessary because you get these people saying some very racy things that, you know, today clearly are not acceptable.

00:20:57.000 But I think it's almost gone too far in the sense that we're afraid to say things that are on our minds because you're afraid you're going to offend somebody.

00:21:05.000 And, you know, you see these stories about schools over the country.

00:21:08.000 I saw this one about a school in Wyoming that had an America themed day for their homecoming week.

00:21:15.000 And they canceled it because they were afraid that they were going to offend people that don't consider themselves to be an American.

00:21:20.000 And I personally think that's ridiculous because, you know, for one thing, you're living in America, so you should have pride in the country you're living in.

00:21:26.000 And if you don't want to be here, then you don't have to be.

00:21:30.000 And I think that that's kind of carried over into politics.

00:21:33.000 And I think that politics has almost given that testament of PC to society and that we have to be careful of what we say.

00:21:39.000 I don't disagree with that testament and that we have to be careful in what we say and where we say it.

00:21:44.000 But I think we need to ease off of the PC a little bit and get back to saying what's on our mind.

00:21:50.000 Because then we can get back to being a true democracy that is of, by, and for the people.

00:21:54.000 Because right now it's just being led by the establishment, it's being led by Washington, rather than the people back here like us in Illinois who aren't getting our voices heard very often.

00:22:03.000 Right.

00:22:03.000 Colin, I'm interested in what you have to say.

00:22:05.000 Last word.

00:22:07.000 Well, first of all, on the statement of if you don't like it, get out, I don't really think that logic is very fitting, especially even from your perspective.

00:22:14.000 If you don't like what we have now, why don't you get out?

00:22:18.000 I mean, that's your argument.

00:22:19.000 I don't think that's really much of a fair one.

00:22:21.000 And I think that, you know, when it comes to People being too PC or they're kind of hiding from voting on the candidates they really like because they won't be elected.

00:22:30.000 That is true.

00:22:31.000 And I think that that is something we're even seeing.

00:22:34.000 We're seeing it on both sides.

00:22:35.000 I think that there's going to be a lot of students and other middle class people who consider themselves radicals who are going to be voting for Sanders and then what they're going to end up doing for the primary at the very least.

00:22:46.000 And then they're going to default.

00:22:48.000 And they're going to be like, well, no one's really going to vote for him.

00:22:51.000 And I see that that logic is something that is kind of pushing us into complacency a little bit.

00:22:56.000 So I agree with you on that aspect that.

00:22:59.000 Maybe people are kind of being forced because the way our election system works.

00:23:03.000 I think that a way to fix this would maybe be less of a focus on two parties, honestly.

00:23:09.000 I think that's something that's holding back our democracy.

00:23:12.000 But I think that also, you know, people being forced into it is a problem.

00:23:15.000 But I don't know about the PC aspect of it either.

00:23:18.000 Because people have been saying that, especially Carson and Trump, where, you know, being PC is a bad thing.

00:23:24.000 But clearly, candidates haven't been PC for the longest of times in terms of, like, Entirely PC.

00:23:31.000 Clearly, people are trying to be politically correct and not blatantly saying racist things, other than Trump a little bit.

00:23:38.000 People aren't coming out and completely suppressing what they're saying either.

00:23:42.000 If someone wanted to be completely PC, Carson wouldn't be against abortion because that would offend people who've had abortions and so on.

00:23:50.000 And I think that the argument that we're too PC is maybe an argument that is kind of taking it a little bit too far and it's a little bit too presumptuous.

00:23:58.000 Very interesting.

00:23:59.000 I've never heard anyone defend PC.

00:24:01.000 But thank you, JP.

00:24:02.000 Thank you, Colin.

00:24:03.000 Coming up, I will give my take on the Democrats and we'll have a panel discussion.

00:24:15.000 Welcome back.

00:24:16.000 We're talking 2016.

00:24:18.000 We're going to jump right in with the Democrats. 0.72

00:24:21.000 Leading the charge, of course, is Hillary Clinton, the establishment favorite of both the Democrats and the federal government, and apparently the Republicans as well. 0.99

00:24:31.000 There is no stopping Hillary Clinton.

00:24:33.000 Many people have made it clear that Bernie Sanders might have a chance.

00:24:36.000 If 30,000 people show up to Bernie Sanders' rally, we might have a Sanders presidency.

00:24:42.000 Not the case. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Hillary Clinton has had it locked up. 0.99

00:24:45.000 Now, she was in free fall for a couple of months with the email scandal, but ever since she trumped the Republicans somehow in the 754th hearing over Benghazi, and after Bernie Sanders said, We're sick and tired of hearing about her damn emails, it's over. 0.97

00:25:00.000 Hillary Clinton hasn't won. 0.97

00:25:01.000 She's beating Bernie by a landslide. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Now, having said that, I oppose Hillary Clinton not simply because she's a Democrat, but because she is a liar and because she is corrupt. 0.99

00:25:11.000 Now, that sounds like a pejorative attack, that sounds like conservative rambling. 0.99

00:25:16.000 Factually, it's correct.

00:25:18.000 In the Benghazi hearings, the mainstream media said that there was no new information. 0.70

00:25:23.000 It was the same old news, the same political circus that it was a year ago.

00:25:27.000 But it came out that on the day of the Benghazi consulate attack on September 11, 2012, she emailed both the Egyptian government and her own family that she knew it was a coordinated attack by radical Islamic terrorists. 0.89

00:25:40.000 Not that it was some silly video. 0.70

00:25:42.000 That is an outright lie to the American people, and it should be punished in the electorate. 0.94

00:25:46.000 She is not fit to hold office simply on that. 1.00

00:25:50.000 Now, in addition, she's a demagogue. 1.00

00:25:52.000 I talked about Marco Rubio equally as being a demagogue, but Hillary Clinton's that on the left. 0.91

00:25:57.000 She has yet to come up with a consistent position on the Keystone Pipeline, on President Obama's trade deal, on the Iraq War, on her history with the gay marriage issue.

00:26:06.000 What is it, Hillary? 0.66

00:26:07.000 The problem is she doesn't really care about the issues. 1.00

00:26:10.000 Give credit Bernie Sanders where credit is due.

00:26:12.000 He does care.

00:26:13.000 He votes consistently.

00:26:14.000 He's been pushing the same message for 50 years.

00:26:17.000 Hillary Clinton hasn't for two years.

00:26:19.000 Now, that leads us to the very interesting Bernie Sanders.

00:26:23.000 We'll start out with the fact that he says he is a democratic socialist.

00:26:27.000 Again, not true.

00:26:29.000 He is not a democratic socialist.

00:26:31.000 One Wikipedia search, one search, Bernie, and you would have known that.

00:26:35.000 You are a social democrat, and there's a very big difference.

00:26:38.000 A democratic socialist is someone who believes in a completely socialist economy alongside a democratic political system.

00:26:46.000 Social democrat is what you see in Scandinavia, which is what you've been promoting a social welfare system with democracy with market based elements.

00:26:55.000 That on its own is very confusing.

00:26:57.000 How can someone who doesn't even know the name of their own ideology, their own nuances of their own ideology, advance and change the entire landscape of this economy and this government?

00:27:08.000 Now, in addition to that, very vague, very misleading.

00:27:11.000 You've often heard him say, 99% of all new income goes to the top 1%.

00:27:17.000 What?

00:27:18.000 How would that pass in a high school history class?

00:27:20.000 Where are your citations?

00:27:22.000 99% of who?

00:27:23.000 99% of what income?

00:27:25.000 What's new income?

00:27:26.000 What's income?

00:27:27.000 Who's the 1%?

00:27:28.000 The 1% of households?

00:27:29.000 The 1% of income earners?

00:27:31.000 Who are these people?

00:27:32.000 It's a demagogic argument and a populist one.

00:27:35.000 It's effective, but it is misleading, and you shouldn't just jump on the bandwagon because it sounds so good and so much like the Occupy movement two years ago.

00:27:43.000 Now, finally and last, we have Martin O'Malley, like Chris Christie, like John Kasich, like Jeb Bush.

00:27:49.000 We ask the question why?

00:27:51.000 Hillary Clinton, the only way she won't get the nomination is an act of God. 1.00

00:27:56.000 Then you have Bernie Sanders, who has the populist vote, the grassroots movement. 0.99

00:28:00.000 Who's left for Martin O'Malley?

00:28:01.000 Who wants a Martin O'Malley presidency?

00:28:04.000 I haven't seen him.

00:28:05.000 He's got the same chances as Rick Santorum.

00:28:07.000 I won't even get into his platform because he's totally unelectable, so we'll move it over to our panel.

00:28:12.000 Now, J.P. Cowan will start with the same question as the GOP.

00:28:16.000 Who do you think is going to be the Democratic nominee?

00:28:18.000 The answer might be pretty obvious.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, like you said, it's hard to see anybody but Hillary Clinton at this point taking the nomination.

00:28:25.000 You know, you see the argument that back in 2008, you see that Obama was behind Hillary in the early polls, and then we see what happened with that.

00:28:33.000 But at this point, you know, you can't really see anybody that has the type of momentum, the type of charisma that Obama had that gave many people the hope that he would be a change in politics to take over Hillary Clinton.

00:28:46.000 I think this time she really does have it locked up, which is unfortunate because personally I really wish that Joe Biden had actually ran.

00:28:53.000 Because regardless of what you think of his policies, regardless of if you agree with him or not, I think he's a reasonable person.

00:29:00.000 He is somebody that actually cares.

00:29:02.000 He's somebody that, you know, he says what he means.

00:29:05.000 And, you know, he may have been that old white politician that many people say are what's running politics right now, but I think he could have been a legitimate candidate.

00:29:16.000 He's more towards the middle than the other ones.

00:29:20.000 I think it's kind of an unfortunate thing that he didn't run, but I think with him not running, you just pretty much handed it to Hillary Clinton.

00:29:27.000 Agreed.

00:29:27.000 Cowan?

00:29:28.000 Yeah, it's quite obvious.

00:29:29.000 Hillary's getting the nomination, and Bernie, he has a chance to get votes, but to get a majority of votes just amongst the Democrats is going to be really hard because, let's be fair here, most of the Democrats are middle class or upper or middle class people.

00:29:48.000 I mean, they're not going to vote for someone who's You know, professing an ideology of the poor, even though it's not really, because as you explained, he's a social democrat.

00:29:56.000 But, like, he's scaring people, essentially, in that Americans don't like the word socialism.

00:30:02.000 And by saying that, yet also running on a liberal ticket, which is usually one that does pretty successful in upper middle class neighborhoods, well, middle class, either way, he's kind of pushing away his own demographic, which I don't think is really the right move.

00:30:17.000 And Hillary's done the exact thing she should.

00:30:20.000 She's said what she needed to say.

00:30:22.000 She's avoided scandal.

00:30:23.000 And even though she's not nearly as charismatic as an Obama, as JP had said, she still has maintained a good figure, I guess, a good public image.

00:30:31.000 And I think that undoubtedly she's getting the nomination.

00:30:35.000 Agreed.

00:30:36.000 No, agreed.

00:30:37.000 Now, having said that, talking about strategic, obviously I think it's consensus that Hillary Clinton will get the nomination.

00:30:42.000 I think you're a rosy eyed idealist if you think that Bernie Sanders has any chance whatsoever at the primary or at the nomination, much less at the White House.

00:30:51.000 But having said that, Are you comfortable with Hillary Clinton?

00:30:54.000 Colin, we'll start with you because I think you lean more to the left.

00:30:57.000 Yeah.

00:30:57.000 What do you think of Hillary Clinton being the nominee?

00:30:59.000 Does that upset you?

00:31:00.000 Are you excited about that?

00:31:02.000 Honestly, I'm not super excited about really any of these candidates in terms of the candidates themselves.

00:31:07.000 However, I am interested in, at the very least, what the Sanders Revolution, or whatever Sandaristas, whatever it's been called, is bringing about in American politics because it is introducing a vaguely more left wing part of American politics to the mainstream. 0.99

00:31:25.000 So, while I'm not excited for Hillary because she's just essentially another center left, not even really left, very, very center, honestly, candidate who's just got the same old policies as any other Democrat, she's not fun. 0.98

00:31:38.000 Like, I'll give it to Trump.

00:31:40.000 While he may have said some crazy things, I think that a Trump Sanders election would be incredibly enjoyable at the very least.

00:31:49.000 It would be entertaining.

00:31:50.000 Yeah.

00:31:51.000 So, I think that, you know, Hillary's kind of safe just like Rubio and all the other Republicans. 0.53

00:31:59.000 It's just that she's not only is she safe, she's just kind of boring, honestly.

00:32:04.000 I think you're right.

00:32:05.000 And that's part of her problem. 0.96

00:32:07.000 Because, you know, granted, Democrats are not excited about her. 0.65

00:32:10.000 Republicans are a little bit more unexcited about a Hillary Clinton candidacy.

00:32:15.000 But having said that, in 2008, Barack Obama won, you know, with George W. Bush, the Great Recession, the Iraq War, which the American people were against.

00:32:23.000 He was charismatic, he was young, he was hip, he was cool.

00:32:26.000 Hillary Clinton has the charisma of a toothbrush.

00:32:29.000 How does she have any chance of facing someone like a Ben Carson, genuine, honest, neurosurgeon, Donald Trump, charisma, Rubio, probably the most eloquent Republican speaker since Reagan?

00:32:40.000 JP, does she have a shot at being Republican for the White House? 0.75

00:32:44.000 It's hard to say because, you know, my fear is that you're going to get a large majority of people that are going to vote for her because she's going to be the first woman president. 0.86

00:32:53.000 And, you know, a lot of people also say, oh, well, she's earned it.

00:32:56.000 You know, she's worked really hard to get here.

00:32:58.000 And I think, yeah, it's props to her for working hard and, you know, doing what she wants.

00:33:03.000 But at the end of the day, working hard means nothing if you're not the most qualified for the job. 0.58

00:33:08.000 And some would say that she is the most qualified for the job. 0.64

00:33:10.000 She's been Secretary of State, she's been a senator, she was the first lady.

00:33:14.000 But at the end of the day, I want a president that I can trust.

00:33:17.000 And with the whole thing about Benghazi and about her emails, and I know that everybody says that a lot of politicians use the private emails and whatnot, but at the end of the day, she did lie about it.

00:33:27.000 And while a lot of politicians do lie as well, she's repeatedly tripped over her own lies and saying, okay, that may have happened, but it was actually this.

00:33:36.000 And then further on, we find out that it wasn't, in fact, that.

00:33:39.000 And she keeps saying something else.

00:33:42.000 And then following that, she has to clean that up as well.

00:33:45.000 And I just don't trust her personally.

00:33:47.000 I mean, there's just too much controversy over her as a candidate and over her past political history.

00:33:54.000 And I don't think that's somebody we would want at the White House who would have to be making questionable decisions and following her presidency or even while it's going on that we would have to question what she's doing and if she's actually doing the right thing.

00:34:06.000 Beside from the fact that I just don't agree with a lot of her policies, I just don't trust her.

00:34:10.000 And I think that's what a lot of Americans have found and what I hope will find. 0.88

00:34:15.000 And I hope we don't fall into that trap of most people just voting for her to get the first woman president.

00:34:20.000 Because I think you need to actually look at the policies and look at how you align with a candidate before you just jump on the bandwagon of gender, race, whatever it may be.

00:34:30.000 You should vote on your policy, not on the social beliefs.

00:34:34.000 And that's a very important perspective.

00:34:36.000 I mean, I was watching about a month ago, and this is a small thing.

00:34:40.000 It's a small thing, but it's something that's telling.

00:34:43.000 She said that she did a private email, that she sent all her Secretary of State emails on her private email server in her house, but she didn't want to carry two phones.

00:34:52.000 Last year, she said that she had a Blackberry and an iPhone in some interview.

00:34:56.000 Now, that's a small thing, granted.

00:34:59.000 Something many people wouldn't catch.

00:35:01.000 But when you're constantly lying, and you're constantly lying to cover up those lies, it becomes evident in those little things that you're never telling the truth.

00:35:10.000 How can we trust someone like that?

00:35:11.000 Colin, I'll give you the last word.

00:35:12.000 What do you think is Clinton's electability, even for Democrats, when she is that untrustworthy? 0.99

00:35:17.000 Well, I think for the Democrats, Hillary's electability just comes from the fact that she is a Democrat.

00:35:23.000 I mean, it's America, let's be honest.

00:35:25.000 We're very, very particular about which party we're voting for, usually just out of loyalty.

00:35:30.000 And I think that that loyalty aspect that you were bringing up with her being the first woman, I think that argument has kind of been done over with people saying Obama was voted for because he would be the first black president.

00:35:41.000 I don't think that's really true.

00:35:42.000 I think that if she's going to garner votes from women more than a male candidate, it's because her platform would be more pro woman.

00:35:50.000 I think that the same thing would have applied to Obama if he had been more.

00:35:55.000 Like African American related issues.

00:35:57.000 I mean, nowadays with Black Lives Matter, which Bernie Sanders has taken a pretty interesting stance on, kind of swapping around there.

00:36:05.000 But I think that Hillary for the Democrats is going to be picked because she's a Democrat.

00:36:09.000 However, for the swing vote, which I think is really what's going to determine it, is the moderates who can't really decide.

00:36:15.000 It might go to the Republicans just because I agree with the charisma aspect.

00:36:20.000 I think Hillary, she has been kind of shady, but so have most politicians, which is the argument that you were trying to refute.

00:36:27.000 But I think that that is kind of a fair point that all of these guys, if we were to read their private emails, we'd probably find something pretty incriminating.

00:36:35.000 So I think that. 0.99

00:36:37.000 As Sanders had said, nobody cares about her damn emails. 0.99

00:36:40.000 I do think that that's just the case for Democrats, and I think that it really depends for the moderates who are going to probably be choosing this race. 0.99

00:36:48.000 It's going to come pretty close as to whether or not they choose her or Rubio, another moderate Republican.

00:36:54.000 I think at that point it's just going to come down to really preference, like personal preference.

00:36:59.000 Agreed.

00:36:59.000 The moderates will decide this.

00:37:01.000 So goes Ohio, right?

00:37:03.000 As Reagan said, the world's oldest profession bears striking resemblance to the second oldest profession, politics.

00:37:09.000 Thank you, JP.

00:37:10.000 Thank you, Colin.

00:37:11.000 That's our show.

00:37:12.000 Join us next week.

00:37:13.000 We'll be talking about the next debate, November 10th, on Fox Business.

00:37:18.000 God bless LTTV.

00:37:20.000 God bless the United States of America.

00:37:22.000 I'm Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:37:23.000 See you next week.

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - November 05, 2015

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