00:01:52.000Now, everyone's been talking about the Trump phenomenon and it is important and historic.
00:01:57.000What do you have to consider about Donald Trump is that he's not an ideologue, he is an opportunist.
00:02:02.000He's not a conservative and it doesn't matter what he is because all he wants is power.
00:02:06.000Now, it's clear that he's not a conservative.
00:02:07.000If you look at any history of him on the issues, he's been pro abortion, he's been anti property rights, he's pro protectionism in this election.
00:02:15.000His immigration policy resembles Patrick Starr's.
00:02:18.000We're going to take the immigrants and push them somewhere else.
00:02:22.000Now, Donald Trump is doing so well because he appeals to the Republicans not in fighting the Democrats, but in fighting the establishment.
00:02:29.000We haven't fought the Democrats since 2012, since Mitt Romney ran against Barack Obama.
00:02:34.000Since then, the Republicans have not been fighting the Democrats, but other Republicans, rhinos, Republicans in name only.
00:02:41.000And Donald Trump has served a very important function in breaking the monopoly of John Boehner, of Paul Ryan, of Renz Priebus, and having people of, by, and for the people they were intended to represent.
00:02:53.000Now, having said that, Donald Trump has served his function.
00:03:25.000Now, in this election, for the first time in history, three Republicans are offering a flat tax program Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Ben Carson.
00:04:08.000Not only that, but on the face of it, his slogan for his tax plan is unapologetically pro family and pro growth.
00:04:15.000I'm sorry, how is a tax plan supposed to be pro family?
00:04:19.000A conservative believes the government should be out of society, should have less functions, because it's incompetent, because it has unintended consequences.
00:04:26.000So for a tax plan to re engineer the entire family, for it to be an experiment for social engineering, is not conservative at all.
00:05:42.000When he was 13, he was studying Bastiat, Hayek, Mises.
00:05:46.000This is a real grassroots conservative.
00:05:49.000Despite the fact that he's in the Senate, that he's technically not an outsider because he's in D.C., he's been fighting against his own party as well as the Democrats for as long as he's been in the Senate.
00:05:59.000Now, I would say he resembles a Rand Paul, conservative for individual rights, for economic liberty, but with a stronger foreign policy.
00:06:07.000And this is important because a lot of people are very wary to jump on the Rand Paul bandwagon because he's so weak on foreign policy.
00:06:37.000Now, in spite of the fact that he protected our country and Jeb Bush is very eager to throw out that talking point, people just don't like Bushes.
00:06:44.000And in spite of all that, there are 14 qualified, competent candidates.
00:06:49.000We have a neurosurgeon, we have two business people, we have two Cubans, and we're going to put in an old white guy, a Bush from Florida, who's pro Common Core and wants a progressive tax rate.
00:07:22.000If you're looking at a Rubio or a Free Arena just for their charisma, you're committing the same sin that the Democrats did with Obama back in 2008.
00:08:03.000Rebuilding the Sixth Fleet is a drop in the bucket compared to the Navy that we have.
00:08:07.000Carly Fiorina, we have to look seriously at her platform before we consider an outsider who's running just on talking points.
00:08:13.000Coming in at 7th is Mike Huckabee at 3%.
00:08:17.000Not much to say about Mike Huckabee, other than the only issue he seems to be concerned about is the VAT tax, the value added tax, and gay marriage.
00:09:09.000Has it so that taxes can be levied on businesses, so that consumers don't see them, so that citizens don't see them, so that it is a blank check for government to raise taxes and increase the size and scope of the federal government without the people knowing about it.
00:09:26.000Coming in at 8th, we have John Kasich.
00:09:29.000Now, again, the question for John Kasich is why?
00:09:32.000We already have three moderate governors running, none of which appeal to the Tea Party, none of which appeal to the grassroots, none of which appeal to the establishment.
00:10:03.000He had huge momentum in 2012 after he delivered his speech at Mitt Romney's nomination, but after that, after he hugged Obama, after he supported NSA spying, why should any conservative vote?
00:10:51.000In addition to that, not just a tax plan to get the base fired up, he also introduced a budget plan to get a balanced budget in five years.
00:10:59.000Now, Paul Ryan's is 10 years, and that's optimistic.
00:11:01.000He's dealing with Congress that's full of statists and Rhinos, Republicans, and name only.
00:11:07.000Now, in addition to that, Rand Paul is pro Liberty, not just on the fiscal issues, not just on the defense issues that are easy to get behind, but also for criminal justice reform, for legalizing marijuana and other drugs.
00:11:18.000Rand Paul's the only real conservative, and it's tragic that he's not doing as well as he should because we're Cherishing style over substance.
00:11:35.000I'm going to be completely honest, and I honestly have no idea at this point in time.
00:11:41.000I had my feelings about Scott Walker before he decided to drop out, and personally, I think it's kind of absurd that he was the first one to do so, given that we have people like the Jim Gilmores and the Lindsey Grahams who.
00:11:55.000They have their respective policies and they have their own strengths and weaknesses, but in reality, they're not serious candidates.
00:12:00.000And I think Scott Walker had the potential to be that serious candidate.
00:12:04.000I just think he played his cards in the wrong way and he didn't necessarily use all of his strengths in the debates.
00:12:11.000So if you asked me today who the nominee was going to be tomorrow and you needed a definitive answer, I couldn't necessarily give you one.
00:12:18.000I think, like you said, Donald Trump, he did what he had to do to get himself into the race by being that bulldog, you know, knit.
00:12:26.000Insulting people, throwing out those racy comments because that's what was going to get him the publicity.
00:12:31.000But it's time for him to become a serious candidate if that is truly what he wants to be.
00:12:35.000He needs to start putting out those policy questions and he needs to actually answer those questions rather than avoiding them and just going back to what he has done for so long in that he's just kind of insulted people and, you know, drawing a large crowd with his insults.
00:12:52.000Well, I think there's a lot of, I guess, just Toss up element to two candidates in particular.
00:13:00.000I think Ben Carson and Rubio are probably the two strongest candidate choices I think we're going to see, probably coming down to being the big frontrunners when the primary actually happens.
00:13:10.000I think Carson appeals to a lot of the more right leaning conservatives rather than the moderate conservatives, whereas Rubio is the opposite.
00:13:21.000And while I disagree with that, I do think that he does fulfill that moderate role.
00:13:26.000Similarly, the Democrats have chosen Hillary for.
00:13:29.000It's that people are going for safe politics.
00:13:32.000I think typically that's just how America has been, and I think that a Carson or definitely a Trump can scare people away.
00:13:38.000And I think that, especially if Trump doesn't really step up and become serious, like JP had said, I think that Carson's probably going to keep going, but I don't think he's going to have enough momentum.
00:13:49.000I think Rubio's going to probably get the nomination.
00:13:51.000Agreed, and that's a very smart answer.
00:13:53.000Traditionally, Republicans have been playing it safe, and I think.
00:13:57.000And I think this is true that that's been a detriment to the Republican Party.
00:14:19.000Do you think that's a mistake for the Republicans to nominate Marco Rubio if he's the best chance for a legitimate, moderate candidate?
00:14:26.000I don't think so, because, and this is one point that I was going to get at, is You see, with the recent election of Paul Ryan as the House Speaker, I think it's kind of a symbol of a shift in not political power per se, but a shift in generational superiority, not superiority, but it's a change in generation for politics altogether.
00:14:53.000So I would have a hard time seeing a switch back to the old school politics, at least in the House.
00:15:00.000I don't know if you're going to see that on the campaign trail.
00:15:02.000It's kind of going to depend on how the rest of the primaries go.
00:15:05.000But I think that that's a lot of the reason why people do like Marco Rubio is because of his youth.
00:15:09.000Whether or not that's a good decision, I think that remains to be seen and how he kind of carries himself down the road because, you know, the last time we elected a freshman senator, we got Obama, and a lot of people aren't happy with that.
00:15:22.000So I think there are advantages and disadvantages with going with Marco Rubio.
00:15:27.000He has a very good performance in debates, he's a good speaker, he does good in the interviews that he does.
00:15:34.000But I think ultimately it just kind of depends on how he carries himself down the road.
00:15:39.000And so, given that, I know a lot of the mainstream media, Fox News included, even conservative mainstream media, has said that Marco Rubio is the legitimate front runner.
00:15:53.000Are they going to disappear before the primaries?
00:15:55.000I think it's kind of an interesting thing because, as you had said earlier, Trump's kind of said all these kind of crazy things to get people's attention.
00:16:03.000And I think Carson has kind of done the similar thing with throwing out some ideas that are more right wing than the typical moderate part of the Republican Party.
00:16:11.000And I think in doing that, he's garnered support just like Trump, but because he's not so blatant about it, he's garnered that support.
00:16:19.000And I think that once people kind of take a step back and, at least if they were to pay attention to trends, they'd realize that.
00:16:26.000America doesn't really want to vote far right, and if you're going to have some sort of difference between Hillary and one of the other Republicans, your choices would be best to be a moderate or a moderate.
00:16:39.000I mean, if it were to be Sanders, which I don't think he's getting it, we'll talk about that later, but I think then maybe a more radical choice of Republicans would be interesting at the very least, polarizing the American people.
00:16:49.000But I think Rubio's legitimacy comes out of his moderate attitudes towards a lot of things, and I think that he's probably, maybe not.
00:16:57.000The most legitimate, but at the very least, the most safe candidate for the Republicans.
00:17:02.000And we've been talking mostly about strategicity, as George W. Bush would say, in politics.
00:17:08.000But in regards to what's healthy for democracy, what's right, what is best for a representative democratic republic, do you think the American people would be more benefited to have a Bernie Sanders versus a Ben Carson ideological battle or safe moderate candidate to win elections like Hillary and Jeb Bush?
00:17:29.000It's hard to say because when you do get to the opposite ends of the spectrum, the people that are going to be their main cheerleaders for these two candidates are going to be the people that are very right or very left.
00:17:40.000You're not going to see many moderate Republicans or Democrats putting their full support behind the candidates.
00:17:46.000They're going to be more like picking the lesser of two evils, as a lot of people would put it.
00:17:52.000I think that a lot of people, the fear that they would have with a Bernie Sanders is that a lot of people, and he's ran as a socialist.
00:18:00.000America has its history as a capitalist nation and free markets, and you know, all that great capitalist ideals that a lot of people in America love.
00:18:09.000And their theory with Bernie Sanders is that we're going to move away from that.
00:18:14.000In regards to like Ben Carson, I'm not very familiar with his platforms because, as you said, he hasn't put a lot out there to you know, rein in and you know, pick apart.
00:18:24.000But I think that it would kind of make more sense for America if they were to go more moderate because it's more in line, it can appeal to more people.
00:18:34.000Than if you go one way or the other, because you're not going to get a far left person voting for a far right.
00:18:39.000But if you could maybe get a far left person going for a more person in the middle ground.
00:18:45.000So I think it kind of just depends on who the individual is.
00:18:50.000Well, I think the question of kind of forcing people to choose between a Carson and a Sanders, we're kind of going a little bit ahead of ourselves there.
00:18:57.000But I think that that would maybe have some implications for our democracy that would be very, I guess, experimental.
00:19:05.000Quite clearly, if you had to choose between a far left and a far right, I think that the purpose of democracy is to have the candidates who you want to win win.
00:19:14.000And I don't think that they're choosing these candidates not just because they're safe, but also because I think the American people kind of like that safeness.
00:19:21.000We've never really been very radical as a country when it comes to either full capitalism or socialism, definitely.
00:19:28.000But I think that maybe that moderate choice is what the American people want, though the success of Carson and Trump has shown that.
00:19:36.000There is a prevalence of a relatively far right wing in American politics, and Sanders has a pretty good presence of left wing.
00:19:43.000So, I would say that maybe for fostering a new democracy and changing things up, it would be interesting, but I don't know if it's maybe the best way to really frame a democracy.
00:19:54.000I think you should probably go with the candidates that people want rather than forcing them to choose ones that would just kind of shake things up a little bit.
00:20:03.000And I think actually it's more so the other way around.
00:20:05.000I think you'd have a Jeb Bush or a Scott Walker or a Marco Rubio being forced on people rather than a Ben Carson.
00:20:11.000I think at heart, Most people like the guys, like the Ben Carsons, the Rand Pauls, who say the things they're thinking, like the way they're thinking them, but they think that they can't win.
00:20:44.000A testament to where we've come as a society.
00:20:47.000When PC was first introduced, you know, in the 60s and 70s, it was definitely necessary because you get these people saying some very racy things that, you know, today clearly are not acceptable.
00:20:57.000But I think it's almost gone too far in the sense that we're afraid to say things that are on our minds because you're afraid you're going to offend somebody.
00:21:05.000And, you know, you see these stories about schools over the country.
00:21:08.000I saw this one about a school in Wyoming that had an America themed day for their homecoming week.
00:21:15.000And they canceled it because they were afraid that they were going to offend people that don't consider themselves to be an American.
00:21:20.000And I personally think that's ridiculous because, you know, for one thing, you're living in America, so you should have pride in the country you're living in.
00:21:26.000And if you don't want to be here, then you don't have to be.
00:21:30.000And I think that that's kind of carried over into politics.
00:21:33.000And I think that politics has almost given that testament of PC to society and that we have to be careful of what we say.
00:21:39.000I don't disagree with that testament and that we have to be careful in what we say and where we say it.
00:21:44.000But I think we need to ease off of the PC a little bit and get back to saying what's on our mind.
00:21:50.000Because then we can get back to being a true democracy that is of, by, and for the people.
00:21:54.000Because right now it's just being led by the establishment, it's being led by Washington, rather than the people back here like us in Illinois who aren't getting our voices heard very often.
00:22:07.000Well, first of all, on the statement of if you don't like it, get out, I don't really think that logic is very fitting, especially even from your perspective.
00:22:14.000If you don't like what we have now, why don't you get out?
00:22:19.000I don't think that's really much of a fair one.
00:22:21.000And I think that, you know, when it comes to People being too PC or they're kind of hiding from voting on the candidates they really like because they won't be elected.
00:22:35.000I think that there's going to be a lot of students and other middle class people who consider themselves radicals who are going to be voting for Sanders and then what they're going to end up doing for the primary at the very least.
00:22:48.000And they're going to be like, well, no one's really going to vote for him.
00:22:51.000And I see that that logic is something that is kind of pushing us into complacency a little bit.
00:22:56.000So I agree with you on that aspect that.
00:22:59.000Maybe people are kind of being forced because the way our election system works.
00:23:03.000I think that a way to fix this would maybe be less of a focus on two parties, honestly.
00:23:09.000I think that's something that's holding back our democracy.
00:23:12.000But I think that also, you know, people being forced into it is a problem.
00:23:15.000But I don't know about the PC aspect of it either.
00:23:18.000Because people have been saying that, especially Carson and Trump, where, you know, being PC is a bad thing.
00:23:24.000But clearly, candidates haven't been PC for the longest of times in terms of, like, Entirely PC.
00:23:31.000Clearly, people are trying to be politically correct and not blatantly saying racist things, other than Trump a little bit.
00:23:38.000People aren't coming out and completely suppressing what they're saying either.
00:23:42.000If someone wanted to be completely PC, Carson wouldn't be against abortion because that would offend people who've had abortions and so on.
00:23:50.000And I think that the argument that we're too PC is maybe an argument that is kind of taking it a little bit too far and it's a little bit too presumptuous.
00:24:18.000We're going to jump right in with the Democrats.
00:24:21.000Leading the charge, of course, is Hillary Clinton, the establishment favorite of both the Democrats and the federal government, and apparently the Republicans as well.
00:24:45.000Now, she was in free fall for a couple of months with the email scandal, but ever since she trumped the Republicans somehow in the 754th hearing over Benghazi, and after Bernie Sanders said, We're sick and tired of hearing about her damn emails, it's over.
00:25:18.000In the Benghazi hearings, the mainstream media said that there was no new information.
00:25:23.000It was the same old news, the same political circus that it was a year ago.
00:25:27.000But it came out that on the day of the Benghazi consulate attack on September 11, 2012, she emailed both the Egyptian government and her own family that she knew it was a coordinated attack by radical Islamic terrorists.
00:25:52.000I talked about Marco Rubio equally as being a demagogue, but Hillary Clinton's that on the left.
00:25:57.000She has yet to come up with a consistent position on the Keystone Pipeline, on President Obama's trade deal, on the Iraq War, on her history with the gay marriage issue.
00:26:31.000One Wikipedia search, one search, Bernie, and you would have known that.
00:26:35.000You are a social democrat, and there's a very big difference.
00:26:38.000A democratic socialist is someone who believes in a completely socialist economy alongside a democratic political system.
00:26:46.000Social democrat is what you see in Scandinavia, which is what you've been promoting a social welfare system with democracy with market based elements.
00:26:57.000How can someone who doesn't even know the name of their own ideology, their own nuances of their own ideology, advance and change the entire landscape of this economy and this government?
00:27:08.000Now, in addition to that, very vague, very misleading.
00:27:11.000You've often heard him say, 99% of all new income goes to the top 1%.
00:27:32.000It's a demagogic argument and a populist one.
00:27:35.000It's effective, but it is misleading, and you shouldn't just jump on the bandwagon because it sounds so good and so much like the Occupy movement two years ago.
00:27:43.000Now, finally and last, we have Martin O'Malley, like Chris Christie, like John Kasich, like Jeb Bush.
00:28:19.000Yeah, like you said, it's hard to see anybody but Hillary Clinton at this point taking the nomination.
00:28:25.000You know, you see the argument that back in 2008, you see that Obama was behind Hillary in the early polls, and then we see what happened with that.
00:28:33.000But at this point, you know, you can't really see anybody that has the type of momentum, the type of charisma that Obama had that gave many people the hope that he would be a change in politics to take over Hillary Clinton.
00:28:46.000I think this time she really does have it locked up, which is unfortunate because personally I really wish that Joe Biden had actually ran.
00:28:53.000Because regardless of what you think of his policies, regardless of if you agree with him or not, I think he's a reasonable person.
00:29:02.000He's somebody that, you know, he says what he means.
00:29:05.000And, you know, he may have been that old white politician that many people say are what's running politics right now, but I think he could have been a legitimate candidate.
00:29:16.000He's more towards the middle than the other ones.
00:29:20.000I think it's kind of an unfortunate thing that he didn't run, but I think with him not running, you just pretty much handed it to Hillary Clinton.
00:29:29.000Hillary's getting the nomination, and Bernie, he has a chance to get votes, but to get a majority of votes just amongst the Democrats is going to be really hard because, let's be fair here, most of the Democrats are middle class or upper or middle class people.
00:29:48.000I mean, they're not going to vote for someone who's You know, professing an ideology of the poor, even though it's not really, because as you explained, he's a social democrat.
00:29:56.000But, like, he's scaring people, essentially, in that Americans don't like the word socialism.
00:30:02.000And by saying that, yet also running on a liberal ticket, which is usually one that does pretty successful in upper middle class neighborhoods, well, middle class, either way, he's kind of pushing away his own demographic, which I don't think is really the right move.
00:30:17.000And Hillary's done the exact thing she should.
00:30:23.000And even though she's not nearly as charismatic as an Obama, as JP had said, she still has maintained a good figure, I guess, a good public image.
00:30:31.000And I think that undoubtedly she's getting the nomination.
00:30:37.000Now, having said that, talking about strategic, obviously I think it's consensus that Hillary Clinton will get the nomination.
00:30:42.000I think you're a rosy eyed idealist if you think that Bernie Sanders has any chance whatsoever at the primary or at the nomination, much less at the White House.
00:30:51.000But having said that, Are you comfortable with Hillary Clinton?
00:30:54.000Colin, we'll start with you because I think you lean more to the left.
00:31:02.000Honestly, I'm not super excited about really any of these candidates in terms of the candidates themselves.
00:31:07.000However, I am interested in, at the very least, what the Sanders Revolution, or whatever Sandaristas, whatever it's been called, is bringing about in American politics because it is introducing a vaguely more left wing part of American politics to the mainstream.
00:31:25.000So, while I'm not excited for Hillary because she's just essentially another center left, not even really left, very, very center, honestly, candidate who's just got the same old policies as any other Democrat, she's not fun.
00:32:07.000Because, you know, granted, Democrats are not excited about her.
00:32:10.000Republicans are a little bit more unexcited about a Hillary Clinton candidacy.
00:32:15.000But having said that, in 2008, Barack Obama won, you know, with George W. Bush, the Great Recession, the Iraq War, which the American people were against.
00:32:23.000He was charismatic, he was young, he was hip, he was cool.
00:32:26.000Hillary Clinton has the charisma of a toothbrush.
00:32:29.000How does she have any chance of facing someone like a Ben Carson, genuine, honest, neurosurgeon, Donald Trump, charisma, Rubio, probably the most eloquent Republican speaker since Reagan?
00:32:40.000JP, does she have a shot at being Republican for the White House?
00:32:44.000It's hard to say because, you know, my fear is that you're going to get a large majority of people that are going to vote for her because she's going to be the first woman president.
00:32:53.000And, you know, a lot of people also say, oh, well, she's earned it.
00:32:56.000You know, she's worked really hard to get here.
00:32:58.000And I think, yeah, it's props to her for working hard and, you know, doing what she wants.
00:33:03.000But at the end of the day, working hard means nothing if you're not the most qualified for the job.
00:33:08.000And some would say that she is the most qualified for the job.
00:33:10.000She's been Secretary of State, she's been a senator, she was the first lady.
00:33:14.000But at the end of the day, I want a president that I can trust.
00:33:17.000And with the whole thing about Benghazi and about her emails, and I know that everybody says that a lot of politicians use the private emails and whatnot, but at the end of the day, she did lie about it.
00:33:27.000And while a lot of politicians do lie as well, she's repeatedly tripped over her own lies and saying, okay, that may have happened, but it was actually this.
00:33:36.000And then further on, we find out that it wasn't, in fact, that.
00:33:42.000And then following that, she has to clean that up as well.
00:33:45.000And I just don't trust her personally.
00:33:47.000I mean, there's just too much controversy over her as a candidate and over her past political history.
00:33:54.000And I don't think that's somebody we would want at the White House who would have to be making questionable decisions and following her presidency or even while it's going on that we would have to question what she's doing and if she's actually doing the right thing.
00:34:06.000Beside from the fact that I just don't agree with a lot of her policies, I just don't trust her.
00:34:10.000And I think that's what a lot of Americans have found and what I hope will find.
00:34:15.000And I hope we don't fall into that trap of most people just voting for her to get the first woman president.
00:34:20.000Because I think you need to actually look at the policies and look at how you align with a candidate before you just jump on the bandwagon of gender, race, whatever it may be.
00:34:30.000You should vote on your policy, not on the social beliefs.
00:34:34.000And that's a very important perspective.
00:34:36.000I mean, I was watching about a month ago, and this is a small thing.
00:34:40.000It's a small thing, but it's something that's telling.
00:34:43.000She said that she did a private email, that she sent all her Secretary of State emails on her private email server in her house, but she didn't want to carry two phones.
00:34:52.000Last year, she said that she had a Blackberry and an iPhone in some interview.
00:35:01.000But when you're constantly lying, and you're constantly lying to cover up those lies, it becomes evident in those little things that you're never telling the truth.
00:35:12.000What do you think is Clinton's electability, even for Democrats, when she is that untrustworthy?
00:35:17.000Well, I think for the Democrats, Hillary's electability just comes from the fact that she is a Democrat.
00:35:23.000I mean, it's America, let's be honest.
00:35:25.000We're very, very particular about which party we're voting for, usually just out of loyalty.
00:35:30.000And I think that that loyalty aspect that you were bringing up with her being the first woman, I think that argument has kind of been done over with people saying Obama was voted for because he would be the first black president.
00:35:57.000I mean, nowadays with Black Lives Matter, which Bernie Sanders has taken a pretty interesting stance on, kind of swapping around there.
00:36:05.000But I think that Hillary for the Democrats is going to be picked because she's a Democrat.
00:36:09.000However, for the swing vote, which I think is really what's going to determine it, is the moderates who can't really decide.
00:36:15.000It might go to the Republicans just because I agree with the charisma aspect.
00:36:20.000I think Hillary, she has been kind of shady, but so have most politicians, which is the argument that you were trying to refute.
00:36:27.000But I think that that is kind of a fair point that all of these guys, if we were to read their private emails, we'd probably find something pretty incriminating.
00:36:37.000As Sanders had said, nobody cares about her damn emails.
00:36:40.000I do think that that's just the case for Democrats, and I think that it really depends for the moderates who are going to probably be choosing this race.
00:36:48.000It's going to come pretty close as to whether or not they choose her or Rubio, another moderate Republican.
00:36:54.000I think at that point it's just going to come down to really preference, like personal preference.