Trump and Orban: Who s better? Orban and Trump. Orban or Donald Trump? China and the trade war? Iran and the Iran nuclear deal? The Iran deal, the trade deal with China, the deal with Iran, the Iran deal with the United States, and much more! Tonight's show is all about the Orban/Trump meeting, and why Orban is a better choice than Trump. And why the trade situation with China can't get any worse than it is now. And why we can't have it all we want, and what we need to do to stop it from happening. Today's episode is a mashup of the two leaders, and their contrasting vision and vision for the future of the world, and how they can work together to achieve a better deal for the American people and the world. We have a whiteboard and a diagram to make it easy for you to compare the two. And we have a visual representation of the meeting between the two on the whiteboard. Welcome to America First! - the show you ve been waiting for. America First, the show where you get to be a part of the team that makes America First. The team that's here to help you become a better, smarter, more woke, more informed, and more impactful place on the planet. It's going to be big and better every day, and we're going to make sure you're not just better at listening to the news, we're watching the news. - Nicholas J. Fuentes, but listening to it too. Enjoy, and tweet us what you're listening to us, and tweeting us about it! . Tweet us to say hi! if you like what you think of the show? and let us know what you thought of the episode, what do you think about it? and what you would like to hear us say in the next episode of America First? or tweet us in the comments section! or do you have a suggestion for us to be included in the show! ? or share it in a future episode? , and we'll be listening to this next week's episode? :) :) - nicholasjfuentes@australiafirst.co.ee/tweet us on Insta: - nikos@t.co/America-First? .
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00:19:09.000The feature story of tonight's show, of course, we're talking about the summit.
00:19:14.000It wasn't really a summit, more like just a conventional meeting, but a big meeting between the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and President Donald Trump of the United States.
00:19:25.000And I've got a whiteboard prepared, a nice little tea chart.
00:19:28.000We're going to compare and contrast the two leaders, but it's a big meeting.
00:19:33.000If you've been following this show for a long time, if you've been watching me for a while, we know and we've talked about for a couple of years now that Viktor Orban in Central Europe is probably the visionary, or among the top tier, first among equal, visionaries and leaders leading the charge for the reactionary right, not just in Europe, but in the whole world.
00:19:56.000And he has really broken down and provided a path for the right wing moving forward in Europe and in North America.
00:20:02.000And so I think it's a very important moment in our history, moment in the Trump administration that we see these two characters
00:20:09.000Coming together and when they come together we can kind of see where the shortcomings of Donald Trump lie.
00:20:15.000I think that's going to be the critical point to make during tonight's show as we look at somebody like Viktor Orban from a far-flung Eastern European country, former Soviet bloc state,
00:20:26.000Who is really doing what needs to be done.
00:20:29.000Who is a competent politician who has a vision, a plan, these unifying principles for what we need to do moving forward versus Donald Trump where there hasn't been nearly as much in the way of practical progress or again the unifying vision.
00:20:59.000Of course, we saw on Friday that the Chinese pulled out of a deal.
00:21:04.000They said, and the President has said, that we were 95% of the way to completing a comprehensive trade deal, mutually agreed upon trade deal, that would have solved all the trade deficit problems and
00:22:20.000I took Economics 101 and if one country is making this widget and another country is making that widget, then they specialize and everybody wins.
00:22:42.000It makes me so angry because every single time we try to retaliate, we try to up the ante, we try to engage, we try to challenge the status quo.
00:22:53.000We get the libertarians, the think tank people, oh, you just don't understand free trade.
00:22:58.000You just, you didn't, you read Milton Friedman.
00:23:00.000You didn't read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell.
00:23:03.000People have no idea the kind of predatory practices that are in place and what we stand to gain here.
00:23:08.000So we're going to get into all of that in greater detail.
00:24:05.000It's a chemically-induced, America-first show.
00:24:09.000So we're very animated, we're very charged up, trying to contain myself, you know?
00:24:14.000I'm sort of jittery a little bit, but we're gonna try and channel it into nationalist rage, nationalist polemics, okay?
00:24:22.000But before we get into the current events, we do have to say a few things about the weekend, of course.
00:24:28.000Yesterday, as we all know, it was Mother's Day, and we gotta say, we just have to remind everybody, hey, Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there.
00:27:45.000You know the cookie problem we like to talk about on the show?
00:27:48.000I see my favorite brand of cookies, Chips Ahoy!
00:27:51.000They're running an advertisement for Mother's Day.
00:27:53.000And what does the advertisement feature?
00:27:55.000A black drag queen from the show RuPaul's Drag Race.
00:28:01.000This drag queen is doing a Mother's Day advertisement for Chips Ahoy.
00:28:06.000And the message is you've got a drag queen, it's a 45 second advertisement, and it's just your usual ridiculous, disgusting, degenerate drag queen, you know, act, promoting the cookies on Mother's Day.
00:28:19.000And I'm watching this and I'm thinking,
00:28:57.000And I think that's what we really have to tap into for normal people.
00:29:01.000Like, for example, when I was a younger man, I'm still a very young man, but when I was a younger man, I didn't care about this stuff.
00:29:08.000I was in high school, I'm a libertarian, you know, I'm worried about what's on television, I'm worried about, you know, whatever, homework, and
00:29:20.000But what really woke me up was just this constant, what is going on in the advertisements and the sitcoms and the movies?
00:29:27.000Why with this overt political messaging and on these kinds of issues?
00:29:31.000Like it would be one thing if the advertisement was
00:29:35.000I don't know, it had a black eye in it, you know, or it had, I don't know, a more subtle liberal message, but you have a drag queen in there.
00:29:41.000This is just so... 20 years ago this would have been fringe.
00:29:45.000You would have been attacked by Moms Demand Action, some Christian advocacy group, and now it just permeates everything.
00:29:52.000And then you see everybody's giving Chips Ahoy grief about this.
00:29:57.000And the cookie Twitter account, the Chips Ahoy Twitter account, is replying to all the left-wing people saying they didn't even watch the ad, they're getting triggered over a drag queen, what's the big deal?
00:30:08.000The world's coming to an end, alright?
00:30:10.000The cookie question, in short, and that's all I'm gonna say about it.
00:34:15.000They're stealing our research and development.
00:34:17.000They're using cyber attacks to steal our information and so on.
00:34:21.000It's a response to all these practices and this is what was campaigned on.
00:34:25.000We begin to implement sanctions and of course the sanctions are to put leverage on China to come to the negotiating table, make a grand deal, open up the Chinese markets, try to mitigate some of these practices, implement some enforcement mechanisms so we can have some semblance of fair trade, a real fair trade system with China.
00:34:43.000So we start with some small tariffs in January 2018
00:34:46.000This ramps up in summer of 2018 with big tariffs.
00:34:50.000$200 billion worth of Chinese imports get big tariffs.
00:36:45.000They sit down with Xi Jinping, this is in Buenos Aires, in December 2018, at the G8 Summit, and Xi Jinping says, okay, we can't take it anymore, we are ready to come to the negotiating table, we will make a deal with you.
00:36:58.000And so they sit down, the Chinese and the American delegation, at this summit, this is last December, and they say, we will put together a framework of a deal that is satisfactory to the Americans, such that Donald Trump announces in December,
00:37:11.000We are suspending all planned increases or expansions of tariffs.
00:37:15.000We're not going to implement any new tariffs.
00:37:16.000We're not going to raise tariffs on products that are already subject to tariffs.
00:37:21.000This will go on for 90 days while we figure out this framework agreement.
00:37:51.000These are some of the finest people in the administration.
00:37:53.000And one of our biggest gripes is that people like John Kelly, and you look at the current Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, and you look at the DHS Secretary Nielsen and her replacement, they're terrible.
00:38:19.000Like I said last week, we're 95% on the way to making a comprehensive deal, sorting out all these issues with China, and China pulls out.
00:38:28.000We have this draft agreement, it's 12 pages, they pull out of 150 different clauses of it, they edit, they remove things, they say we're not making these commitments anymore, they eviscerate the deal, they're now making no concessions.
00:38:41.000So in response to this, we're, of course, we're very upset by this.
00:38:45.000So Trump on Friday, this brings us up to speed to last week, he implements a 25% tariff on $200 billion worth of goods.
00:39:21.000So about half, a little bit less than half of all Chinese imports into America are now under a 25% or a 15% tariff, which is very substantial, very big.
00:39:31.000In retaliation, and this is our news from today, this is the update,
00:39:35.000Is that China is now hiking tariffs from 10% to 25% on $60 billion worth of goods.
00:39:41.000And now they have a total of $110 out of $120 billion worth of American imports under tariff.
00:39:48.000So, you know, that's a lot of numbers.
00:41:31.000You know, this is something that the President talked about a lot during the election, and when the tariff war began, people made fun of him for this.
00:41:37.000He said, you know, when you have tariffs, or rather, when you have a deficit that is this big, when you have a $300-$400 billion trade deficit, and we're hemorrhaging $400 billion in cash, assets, debt, all this other stuff every year,
00:41:50.000And on top of that, they're stealing our technology, they're stealing our intellectual property, they're stealing our production and manufacturing techniques.
00:41:58.000They have access to our market and we don't have access to theirs.
00:42:00.000I mean, it's just, we are just getting slaughtered on trade.
00:42:04.000There's literally no way that you can lose on this.
00:42:08.000There's absolutely no way that you can lose.
00:42:51.000And you get the libertarians, and the conservatians, and the fiscal conservatives, and the free market people, and they will tell you that with free trade, actually with free trade, you never lose.
00:43:01.000It doesn't matter how big the deficit is, you can never lose because you're getting goods.
00:43:06.000You know, that's what Milton Friedman said, and this is probably the most pernicious lie in the history of economics, modern history of economics.
00:43:15.000Milton Friedman promulgated this myth for decades and he was maybe the number two most influential economist in world history aside from maybe John Maynard Keynes or like Adam Smith.
00:43:27.000You know, back in the 70s and 80s, he said that, you know, if you have a trade imbalance with a country like China, it doesn't matter because all that is is arbitrary accounting figures.
00:43:36.000Sure, you can say that you have a $400 billion deficit, but all that means is you're getting goods.
00:43:50.000Hello short little Jewish economist man.
00:43:54.000You of all people should know you don't get anything for free.
00:43:57.000There's no such thing as a free lunch.
00:43:59.000So we've been told by the economists and we've been told by academics and we've been told by pundits for 50 years that a trade deficit is just totally, that's just an accounting term.
00:44:29.000If we're bringing in, because that's what it comes down to, is valuing all the goods and services, that means we're getting all this stuff?
00:44:35.000We're getting four times the value of goods and services than we're sending them?
00:45:22.000It's largely cheap consumer products that we can make here that we can make here and it's no problem or you can get it from any other country that we do more business with that they actually import and they have fair trading practices.
00:45:33.000You know what we give them in exchange for the cheap consumer products that we can make here?
00:45:40.000You know, China tried to buy the Chicago Stock Exchange last year, to give you an idea.
00:45:45.000So yeah, we got McDonald's toys, and we got Walmart products, and what you would find in a Target.
00:45:50.000And in exchange, we tried to give them the Chicago Stock Exchange, and we tried to give them pieces of Hollywood companies, and we give them property, ports,
00:46:00.000Real estate, land, stake in Fortune 500 companies, okay?
00:46:07.000So understand with debt you have the principal, of course, and then you have interest.
00:46:10.000So we're giving them a guarantee that, you know, we're gonna take their money now, but we'll be paying them back forever, basically.
00:46:16.000So yeah, we get cheap consumer goods now, but we're paying for it in interest every year, basically functionally forever, you know, because there's no chance we're paying it back anytime soon.
00:47:35.000Because China doesn't only just do that, they also implement other things.
00:47:38.000Where, for example, if we want to have a company come in and do business with them, the whole reason we opened up the trading system to them with the World Trade Organization and other things in the 1990s and 2000s, deregulating our trade and lowering our trade barriers,
00:48:10.000We didn't even get access to the Chinese markets.
00:48:12.000Instead, we go in there and they say, well, we're not even going to let you compete in our country unless you give us all of your intellectual property and you also enable something called co-production.
00:48:23.000So not only do we get all of your intellectual property and we figure out all your patents and we figure out, you know, maybe your private and public sector technology was 25 years ahead of us.
00:48:32.000And you invested hundreds of millions of dollars to get that advanced technology?
00:48:38.000And not only that but your factories are going to come into our country and your people are going to come into our country and they're going to teach us how to manufacture your goods so that we can set up a factory in our country after we've learned these techniques and we've learned the
00:49:14.000It's so everything and that's why we have to look at trade not so much as this mutual thing and we want to be friends with China and we might want to work out a deal where money is flowing in both directions.
00:49:46.000You know, the economists like to say, well, a rising tide lifts all boats.
00:49:49.000The Chinese get richer, and you know, maybe Americans get a little bit poorer, but everybody's getting richer on the net, and the market is enriching itself, and the people in the multinational corporations are enriching themselves.
00:50:09.000And because we're geopolitical adversaries, that has very significant effects for military, for defense, for national security.
00:50:15.000And so we cannot afford to continue to inflate the Chinese economy and help them out and strengthen them at the expense of our own economy.
00:50:22.000So actually a deal, the deal that we would like to see is that we have some kind of enforcement mechanism that we can stop these predatory practices.
00:50:31.000You know, that we made China commit on paper saying, okay, we are not going to do cybercrimes, we are not going to do what we've been doing for 25 years, and there's some degree of enforcement, but you know what?
00:50:42.000It would actually be fine if we just remained in a state of trade war.
00:51:20.000But honestly, and maybe that would be better understanding the political reality that Trump won't be in office forever and whoever comes next will be bribed and bought and allow China to continue to rise.
00:51:30.000So I guess under those circumstances, the deal would probably be preferable.
00:51:34.000But in theory, there's nothing wrong with what we're doing right now.
00:51:37.000The only problem is that it could not be continued indefinitely because a future administration will be bribed, will become corrupt, and will kowtow to China again.
00:51:46.000But other than that, keep the pressure up.
00:51:48.000This is a beautiful thing, and this is really one of the few things that Trump has been excelling at, is the trade policy.
00:51:54.000Everything else has been kind of a miss.
00:51:56.000Foreign policy, immigration, been a little bit incompetent, been kind of a failure, and in some places compromised wholly on principle, like legal immigration, which we're going to get into.
00:52:06.000But on trade, it has really been the area, I think, where Trump is
00:52:12.000In this way, he has some parallels with Nixon.
00:52:14.000You know, Nixon didn't achieve everything that he set out to achieve, and obviously his legacy is tainted by the resignation and the scandal and so on.
00:52:23.000But, you know, of course Nixon is remembered for realigning the entire world.
00:52:27.000They taunt with the Soviet Union, opening up with China, putting the Middle East in America's influence, shifting the balance of power away from the Soviet Union towards America.
00:52:46.000It just makes me... So if you see any of that stuff on the timeline, any of these, you know, tricks, any of these tricks that are being played by these money movers trying to lead you to believe that free trade is, you know, the greatest thing, and that's always what these conservatarians want to fight me on.
00:53:02.000It was the last thing that I came over to on Trump.
00:53:05.000You know, when I was a libertarian, I was like, okay,
00:53:08.000My conversion process over to the you know authentic traditional conservative type.
00:53:13.000I said okay I'm on board with anti-immigration.
00:53:15.000I'm on board with foreign policy non-intervention.
00:53:18.000I'm on board with all this stuff but you know Trump hasn't sold me on trade.
00:53:22.000But then I read Free Trade Doesn't Work by Ian Fletcher.
00:53:24.000I looked into it and it's just so obvious what's going on.
00:54:26.000Viktor Orban, who is the Prime Minister of Hungary, is visiting the White House today.
00:54:32.000And actually, the President and Viktor Orban have met before, I believe.
00:54:36.000I think it was at a NATO summit in Europe not too long ago.
00:54:40.000I don't believe there's any video or picture of them shaking hands or anything, but there is a video of them sort of marching along with all the other NATO leaders, all the other European leaders.
00:54:51.000But this is the first time that Viktor Orban
00:55:16.000This is big because of what Viktor Orban represents.
00:55:18.000And if you follow politics, you understand that Viktor Orban is.
00:55:22.000And there was a poll that was actually tweeted out today by Darren Beattie.
00:55:26.000Asking this question, who is the legitimate spiritual leader or the torchbearer of the reaction of the authentic like nationalist conservative movement in the world?
00:56:04.000You know, they sold off some of their most profitable and strategic industries like oil and other things to Russia and to multinational corporations.
00:56:13.000You know, this sort of vulture venture capitalism after
00:56:16.000The Cold War ended and the Soviet Union, communist countries opened up to Western investment and so they made a lot of mistakes.
00:56:22.000Liberalization didn't really work out.
00:56:24.000By 2008 they were in a similar situation to Greece.
00:56:27.000You know, you remember Greece tanked the Eurozone.
00:57:05.000He's able to implement big economic reforms, he turns their economy around, he wins big majorities because of that, he wins two-thirds in the Congress there, in their Parliament, and they're able to rewrite the Constitution, change the judiciary, they're able to do media reform, they're able to make big substantial changes, they end the migrant crisis, and so Hungary is basically the prototype of what we want the nationalist idea to look like in Europe and in North America.
00:57:30.000He lays out, and this is what we're comparing and contrasting,
00:57:34.000Orban laid out a couple of years ago five tenets.
00:57:38.000We only have four listed here because only four are relevant for our purposes, but he lays out in this speech five and we're talking about four core tenets of what he calls
00:58:07.000Obviously Trump kind of kicked all this stuff off and I actually shouldn't say that.
00:58:12.000The populist nationalist thing has been rising in the world for 25 years.
00:58:16.000Ryan Gurdusky actually wrote a very good article about this in the American Conservative.
00:58:20.000Very long article but it details how this goes all the way back to like 1996 and it starts out in the Netherlands and in Finland and
00:58:28.000In some of these far-flung European countries that you don't hear too much about in the news.
00:58:32.000So this has been a long time coming, but we all know that Trump really blew the lid off of everything.
00:58:36.000He really turned the world upside down.
00:58:38.000He breathed new life into this movement, brought it to the forefront.
00:58:42.000And so we compared this on Friday with Matteo Salvini and the migrant crisis at our border and how that's going.
00:58:48.000With the migrant crisis in the Mediterranean Sea and how it's going for Salvini.
00:58:52.000But I think it's important to understand, and I think it's important to compare, what has been done so far in the way of Donald Trump, comparing with the principles of Victor Orban that he has articulated.
00:59:16.000He writes, quote, I have formulated five tenets for the project of building up Central Europe.
00:59:20.000The first tenet is that every European country has the right to defend its Christian culture and the right to reject the ideology of multiculturalism.
00:59:30.000So that's the first tenet of his ideology, which to me is probably the biggest and most important one.
00:59:35.000Protecting the culture of the nation, not protecting
00:59:39.000You know, limited government, not protecting the GDP of the country, not protecting any material aspect of the country's well-being, you know, the unemployment rate or anything like that, but protecting the culture, and more importantly, explicitly acknowledging that it's a Christian culture and rejecting this idea that it can be many things at once or can have foreign influences.
01:00:00.000It's to defend Christian culture and reject multiculturalism.
01:00:08.000He says, our second tenet is that every country has the right to defend the traditional family model and is entitled to assert that every child has the right to a mother and a father.
01:00:18.000Another very important one, because what do we see in America?
01:00:21.000We see not only the promotion of homosexuality and transgender ideology, but it goes beyond that.
01:00:27.000You know, that's the most egregious part of it, that's the most fringe and radical turn that it's taken in recent years, but it's also the promotion of divorce.
01:00:36.000It's also the promotion of the single parent household, and adoption, and all these other things.
01:00:40.000It's the promotion of a lifestyle with no children.
01:00:55.000So we have the promotion of the traditional family model.
01:00:57.000He says the third Central European tenet is that every Central European country has the right to defend the nationally strategic economic sectors and markets which are of crucial importance to it, which goes and ties in a little bit to what we were talking about with China.
01:01:12.000And this is a big part of his reforms.
01:01:13.000He said that, you know, without economic strength, anything we do in this country doesn't mean anything.
01:01:18.000Because you can have any foreign investor, any foreign multinational corporation or foreign government can go in and meddle and influence.
01:01:25.000So really nothing else matters if we're not solid economically.
01:01:29.000If we're vulnerable in the sense that, you know, for example, Russia can shut off our gas or an American multinational can shut off investment in the key industries.
01:01:39.000Well, you really don't have sovereignty, you really don't have independence.
01:01:42.000So he ties us in with the other tenants and says, well, really the foundation is the economy.
01:01:48.000We as the nation, we have the people, have the right to control our strategic sectors of the economy, ultimately the end goal being to protect the sovereignty.
01:01:56.000You know, it's indirect, but that is the foundational component there, and that's the reality of modern politics.
01:02:42.000Not only does he get into office, but he rewrites the Constitution, and he changes the rules around, and he defies supranational institutions, and he negotiates, and he leverages.
01:02:51.000And he's able to manipulate the public, and he's able to do a lot of things which are the element of statecraft, which makes him a competent, a practical, effective politician and a statesman.
01:03:01.000But aside from that, not only does he win elections, not only does he get stuff done in the pursuit of these goals, but he has the ability to articulate an alternative vision.
01:03:53.000So that's really what's distinct and key about Orban is not only do we have a winner, a competent politician and a statesman, but we also have somebody who can articulate an alternative vision.
01:04:08.000You know, it's based on anti-racism, it's based on this liberation theology of, you know, turning the world, turning the clock back and having this vengeance against the white man and putting in favor of people of color and elevating the dispossessed and leveling the playing field and all that.
01:04:23.000And Orban is saying, well, we have a totally different worldview.
01:04:26.000And it's coherent, and it's strong, and it makes good arguments.
01:04:30.000It's a propositionally positive vision.
01:04:32.000It says, we're not going to just say, well, we don't want the liberal vision.
01:04:36.000We want a conservative vision of traditional families, of Christian culture, and so on.
01:04:42.000If you compare just these principles, you know, where we have strong, very good, these are winning tenets that I think we all agree with people who watch this show, what do we have on this side from Trump?
01:04:52.000As far as defending Christian culture and rejecting multiculturalism go, what do we have except for like a few tweets?
01:04:57.000This sort of haphazard ad hoc, we're gonna say Merry Christmas again.
01:05:02.000And we're going to protect your religious liberty.
01:05:16.000There's never been anything like that.
01:05:18.000During the campaign, the most we could get in terms of a defense of Christian culture and a rejection of multiculturalism is, we're gonna say Merry Christmas again instead of Happy Holidays.
01:05:32.000Is there's only so far we can go with that.
01:05:34.000Because by the same token, he's in the White House celebrating the Muslim holidays and wishing a Happy Ramadan and wishing a Happy Hanukkah and Mazel Tov and whatever.
01:05:44.000And we're about, oh, we're gonna bring in all kinds of different people.
01:07:06.000That's not a bad thing in itself, but ultimately, practically, we know what that's for, right?
01:07:11.000So if anything, not only are we not doing anything, we're not doing anything to defend and protect the traditional family model, we're actually working in subtle and little ways to the other way, domestically and abroad.
01:07:22.000In Hungary, if you have more than four kids, you don't pay income tax.
01:07:27.000How's that for protecting the traditional family?
01:07:29.000For people who want to say, Oh no, but Trump did such and such.
01:07:32.000No, but Trump said families are a good thing.
01:09:50.000If we don't want the country to change, we don't want more people coming in, we have the right to put our foot down and say, we don't want any more people coming in.
01:10:00.000If there's a war going on in your country, we have the right to say, no, this is our country and we're closing our borders.
01:10:07.000What is the alternative on the Trump side?
01:10:09.000We've never heard anything close to that.
01:10:11.000The argument has always been, well, we're going to build a wall, but there'll be a big, beautiful door in the middle where everybody can come in, no matter what color you are, no matter who you are, no matter how many, as long as you want to start a little trinket store, as long as you want to set up a street food vendor, you know, whatever.
01:10:28.000As long as you're going to contribute to the economic utility of the nation, as long as you'll boost the GDP, you can come right in.
01:10:34.000So we've embraced immigration as opposed to saying we have the right to reject immigration.
01:10:39.000And all this is to say is Trump is no Orban.
01:10:45.000And I don't know if this is something where
01:10:47.000In the grand scheme of things, we will never be able to come close to an Orban.
01:10:51.000You know, I don't know if this is something where these are just qualitative differences and what each system is able to produce.
01:10:57.000You know, this is the best that we could produce.
01:10:59.000This is a Donald Trump-like character and in Europe it's different because they have these ethnic-based countries and a longer history and they have reactionary politics and so on.
01:11:08.000Or do you wonder, and this is I think the bigger question, is Donald Trump phase one?
01:11:14.000Does Donald Trump serve the historical purpose of sort of blowing the lid on everything?
01:11:19.000And he paves the way, then, for an Orban-like figure in America.
01:11:23.000Because, Trump, this is not our Orban, right?
01:11:26.000You can see that in every way, where it counts competence and in articulating the vision, Trump falls short.
01:11:35.000Is Donald Trump the John the Baptist like figure?
01:11:53.000And he makes it possible for somebody to come in who will actually be an effective statesman, who will actually be able to articulate a new path forward for the country.
01:12:02.000And I think that's maybe the subtle white pill here.
01:12:04.000Because we've been bagging on Trump for a long time.
01:12:22.000He cannot communicate this kind of alternative that needs to be communicated to the American people and win people over to it.
01:12:29.000So the question remains, if Trump can't get the job done, can we be hopeful that maybe then, in 5, 10, 15, 20 years time, will there be another figure who can get the job done?
01:12:40.000Because Trump went in, and he messed it all up, but he blew up the system, and he discredited the media, and he changed the Republican Party, and he showed that it was possible,
01:12:51.000Does this make it possible for somebody to come in, ultimately, down the road, and I don't know how far down the road, but at some point, who's able to actually wield the electorate, gain popular support from both sides of the aisle?
01:13:51.000It says, Human Rights Watch and Human Rights First both said that Orban coming to the White House, they said that Orban has not only assaulted the rule of law and basic human rights in Hungary, but he has employed anti-migrant, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic and xenophobic rhetoric while targeting civil society organizations and universities receiving funding from overseas.
01:14:13.000So basically he doesn't want foreigners to control his country.
01:14:16.000But you see that in America, an Orban-like figure would get destroyed by the media.
01:14:21.000You know, if that's the kind of coverage, this alarmist, you know, like they're running around with their heads chopped off about this kind of stuff, would that even be possible in America?
01:14:31.000Is it possible with the state of the media, the state of the electorate, the demographics of the southern states and the way people are, how partisan things are?
01:14:44.000Victor Orban was able to rally in a country that survived communism together, that survived world wars.
01:14:50.000You know, they were once a great empire, the Hungarian Empire, and then whittled away, you know, all their borders cut down and their country whittled down to this tiny fraction of what it once was in terms of population size and in terms of geography.
01:15:07.000You know, the ethnic Hun people in Romania, you've got them in Serbia, you've got them all over former Yugoslavia and so on.
01:15:14.000So they understand perhaps what it means and they appreciate their national identity and their national sovereignty.
01:15:20.000Somebody like an Orban can come forward and say, I will protect the Hungarian culture and people and so on because we've been under assault for centuries and we remember what it was like and we see how precarious our future is.
01:15:32.000In America, is it a comparable situation?
01:16:10.000All that being said, circumstances can change very rapidly.
01:16:13.000We've seen that in the last, you know, however many years.
01:16:16.000Things can change very quickly and these sort of miracle, like what do you call them, black swan type events, they do come around and it seems like increasingly so.
01:16:25.000So that might be a subtle white pill that if we got Trump and that seemed miraculous by the standards of 2008, maybe in 2020 it seems crazy we could get an Orban-like figure, but maybe things go downhill.
01:16:37.000The country changes, the demographics change, polarization changes, and maybe by 2024, you know, 2028, something else becomes possible.
01:16:49.000You know, we don't know what the future holds, but that's what I see when I see Trump and Orban meeting, is I see this very frustrating comparison.
01:16:57.000He really lays bare the shortcomings of Trump, and that's where people have to get it through their head.
01:17:01.000He's better than the other guys, sure, but it's not saying much.
01:17:05.000It's a far cry from what we would need to even begin to turn things around, which is what Orban, Salvini, these other people are.
01:18:41.000He'll do anything for a $2 Super Chat.
01:18:45.000If he's degraded and debased to the point where he'll completely sell out and make the show worse because he's gotta make his $1.40 by the time YouTube takes their cut, well then I'll sell out for however much money from anybody else, so it's a good sign.
01:19:00.000But anyway, we gotta get to the Super Chats.
01:19:03.000Let's see, my throat's getting a little dry here.
01:19:06.000Should have been drinking water as opposed to Monster Zero Ultra maybe.
01:19:24.000Well, and it's just all about priorities.
01:19:26.000You know, I'm at a stage in my life where
01:19:29.000You know, I have so much on my plate right now in terms of the show, in terms of other projects that are happening, other commitments that I've made in my life.
01:19:38.000And of course, you have to understand about a self-employment situation like me where it's not so simple as, well, you get up, you go to work and you go home.
01:20:18.000You know, the human capital investment of getting a good night's sleep, staying up to date on my reading, reading books, reading the news, looking at new opportunities, business and otherwise, upping the technology, whatever.
01:20:33.000And I'm not like I'm doing all that every day at all times, but you understand where a commitment like this is sort of open-ended.
01:20:38.000So for somebody that goes to school, it's like, well I did my homework for the day, now I can afford to go to the gym for two hours, you know?
01:20:44.000Or I did my work for the day, now I could go to the gym for an hour.
01:20:47.000But for somebody like me, it's like I got a lot going on already, but then the nature of the work is, it's open-ended.
01:20:54.000So I always feel like, you know, is going to the gym and constantly stressing about the macros and, you know, I got to whip up the, you know, protein shake and I got to make all these meals and prepare my meals for the week and I go to the go to the gym and people say, oh, well, you just got to do it or you just got to take the time.
01:21:10.000The mental energy, the physical energy to do that, is that the proper investment?
01:21:18.000You know, you look at the successful people in the world doing their own thing.
01:21:21.000Are they really, is that their priority?
01:21:23.000So, not that it's a bad thing to go to the gym.
01:21:26.000Going to the gym is great and I'm going to try and get back in the gym.
01:21:29.000I'm going to try to get back in the gym this month.
01:21:31.000I've been putting it off forever and I should because it's good for you and it is good to be able to lift and be strong and all that, but it really just comes down to priorities and it's paid off.
01:22:13.000So, that's not to say, I don't, people get very defensive, people get weird about it, but it's an important thing to keep in mind, you know?
01:22:21.000I'll get big and strong once I'm able to hire like a assistant who can take care of, or a wife, I can hire a wife, bring on a wife onto the team to take care of that, the meal prep and all that, you know, then maybe I'll get back on it, right?
01:23:14.000Norwood says, JFL at Nick, or JFC I think he means, claiming that he isn't rich whilst having his suits tailored weekly for a more snug fit.
01:23:25.000So I think you're trying to say I'm gaining weight.
01:23:27.000Yeah, well thank you so much for that.
01:23:29.000Capitalist Manifesto says his suits aren't tailored.
01:28:53.000And I know people are gonna say, oh what you're some, not like I'm some big macho man, you know.
01:28:58.000We have now boiled down masculinity and virility to
01:29:03.000Like eroticism, and phallic nature, and like physical strength.
01:29:08.000Masculinity, virility, it's about more than that.
01:29:11.000You know, so I'm not coming at it from the perspective of, oh no no, you're a baby to old soy, libtard cuck.
01:29:17.000You know, I'm coming at it from the perspective of, you cannot properly understood, fulfill the obligations and duties of a man, and also be a feminist.
01:29:25.000You cannot believe, you just, it doesn't work like that.
01:29:28.000You cannot believe in things like egalitarianism, and
01:31:04.000Everything is all right with the world.
01:31:05.000You know that you're gonna get your... You can get it for free, by the way, but if you give a super chat, if you're a premium member, you're gonna get your bang for your buck.
01:35:06.000As I was looking for people to play Fortnite with, we get them on the stream, and, you know, we're gaming, whatever, and it's the Nick effect.
01:35:12.000You know, I have so much clout to go around.
01:35:14.000I got, like, the most viewers on the site.
01:35:16.000People are following him, and they're liking his content, and, uh, and they're following this friend of his, and my stream goes down because my internet breaks, you know, as it always does, and I'm watching their stream, and all the people who are watching my stream go to watch this guy's stream, and they're following, and they're sending them, uh, the lemons, you know, whatever the tips are on there.
01:35:35.000And the one kid starts bawling his eyes out.
01:35:37.000He's like, oi, oi, now I can apply to be a member.
01:35:42.000Now I can apply to be a verified partner.
01:37:20.000The proliferation of the drag culture to me has been so blackpilling.
01:37:25.000The drag queen thing to me is just like the most disgusting, repulsive... I see that and it like... I can't tell you how angry it makes me, you know?
01:37:38.000I guess it's just such a satanic perversion, you know?
01:37:42.000I think that's what you see in, like, Sodom and Gomorrah and all these, you know, evil societies.
01:37:47.000Just the cross-dressing, the inversion of gender, the perversion of the divinely ordered gender roles and the way things ought to be, the natural law.
01:38:15.000and drugs and drinking it is like the epitome of cosmopolitan decadence and degeneracy and that's like the new it's in vogue for this like upper class rich kid culture it's horrible and you're right it's being advertised to children and as a result you look at the numbers it's horrible like in britain they say it's something like 13 percent of and i don't know the exact figure but it's like astonishingly high it's in like the teens
01:39:33.000And you get somebody who, you know, normally it's a phase, or it's whatever, it's a natural exploring thing, part of childhood development, turns into, well, my gender identity is girl, and I'm gonna cut my genitals off, and go on hormone therapy, and permanently stunt my development.
01:39:49.000In two, three years, five years, you're like, oh, wait a minute, no, I'm just a normal guy, and I want a normal life again, and you're done then, you know?
01:39:59.000So you're right, it's totally sick and the numbers are rising and it's a direct result of the culture.
01:40:15.000You know, they're going to do their own thing.
01:40:17.000Well, we live in a society of children.
01:40:19.000You know, that's, I guess, the fatal conceit of the individual.
01:40:22.000As we think about things in terms of an adult society of totally autonomous people with free agency and they're totally choosing and they have complete choice and free will.
01:44:06.000But the problem is they're so evil that a lot of them just, you know, kind of have to be, you know, a lot of them just kind of have to be shut down and pushed out of the public square.
01:44:16.000But, you know, at the end of the day, and I said this, I think on last week's show,
01:44:20.000Ultimately, we are trying to save souls.
01:45:01.000You know, people don't tell you that, but not only is that the right way to live, but it's also, you know, look at the lifestyle that these people live on the other side.
01:45:10.000You know, drugs, disease, all that other stuff, so it pays off, I'm sure.
01:45:15.000Gen Z Philosophy says, have you seen the vid of Matt Bowling's comeback in the 400 meter relay in Texas?
01:45:39.000Yeah, well, I did see that actually I believe I saw that on Twitter Where yeah where he outruns and they're all black and the one white guy he takes the lead.
01:45:49.000That's pretty pretty solid pretty impressive and terrific and all that but yeah, I don't I wouldn't go as far to say maybe in the Aryan race of you know, 200 meters and
01:46:01.000If we're talking about the Aryan race running around a track yeah he's doing more but I don't think you know cross-country running people I don't know if they're doing as much to save the white race you know not the biggest fan of those types so I'd be more inclined to say that America first really you know thank you we need our athletes I guess but
01:46:22.000Really, it's the content creators that are bearing the the brunt here, you know?
01:47:44.000They hire, like, felons and convicts or whatever.
01:47:48.000Oh, but I think if you're talking about a high-level professional job or a desk job, I think it would be... eventually would become a problem.
01:47:55.000If they didn't discover it in the hiring process, eventually it would come out.
01:50:04.000It's too Like enlightenment type Individualistic stuff, so I'm not a fan.
01:50:10.000I think he's right on some issues, but only like incidentally Zooms is what is the East and for an e-girl just means like online, you know, like email or whatever Ecommerce it's just means internet
01:52:24.000Well, then where is the natural repulsion?
01:52:27.000Where is the natural revulsion, rather?
01:52:29.000Where does that come from, then, right?
01:52:31.000If it's legitimate by the nature of you're born with this whatever, you know, then shouldn't it be the fact that 100% of the population is repulsed by this?
01:52:41.000Where did that come from, then, right?
01:52:43.000If not, but for an intuitive understanding of design, telos, natural law, all that.
01:54:29.000I wished you contracted Candida auris after the hunter Avalon debate got canned.
01:54:35.000I'm sorry I fired from the hip not asking to be unblocked just wanted to wish you a good week big guy peepee poo-poo the power of the block people say why do you block you block because you're mad because of results like this I block people and invariably it's
01:54:50.000You know, I don't know this isn't you said this isn't you but I get people who say please unblock me or I'm sorry I was mad or you get people who say you were right to block me, you know, that's okay Look, I'm forgiving apology accepted Apology accepted.
01:57:29.000It just seems so... you just do the same thing, you know?
01:57:34.000Chop down some wood, you make your tools, you mine, you go back up, you make a pickaxe, you mine, you go back up, you make things, you go back...
01:57:44.000I feel like my life has enough of that.
01:57:46.000I feel like when you feel these responsibilities nagging you in a game, it's like it no longer is entertainment for me.
01:57:54.000I've got nagging things on my brain about what I have to do in real life, in the real world, and then it's like, oh, now I gotta go get more iron and more coal and, oh, I gotta, you know, dig down and then I gotta build this and that and...
01:58:10.000It's like, I can't, I can't do it anymore.
01:58:11.000The video games, I just need arcade-like games.
01:58:15.000I need to go into Grand Theft Auto, kill a bunch of people, you know, do car crashes and things in first person, and then I'm good, you know, and then I got my fix.
01:58:26.000But, you know, you got all these games where it's like a million features, and you gotta learn it, and there's this curve, and it's hard, and... I just can't do it anymore.
02:01:37.000I saw Jared Holt write an article, but I'm not familiar with it Zirconium says save the soap knife the Nabisco up the orb on very succinct.
02:01:45.000Very true and Cynical says hey Nick soap.
02:01:48.000Just got D platform said help what happened?
02:01:51.000She get kicked off YouTube Now I got a white knight now I gotta go Travis Bickle mode now I gotta go and
02:03:15.000I don't know what DJ Audit the Fed has to do with this.
02:03:21.000uh let's see scroll down a little far there whoops now i scrolled up too far where are we uh mercer says will you run for president in 2036 and become our orban i probably not but who knows i think i'm done you know i i you say enough things on the internet you're kind of toast
02:03:41.000You know I'll run in 2036, and you know all the clips are gonna pull.
02:03:45.000Oh, here's the time Nick picked his nose.
02:03:47.000Here's the time Nick said to kill globalists.
02:03:49.000Here's the time Nick said, uh, you know, cat boys, you know, whatever.
02:03:54.000Here's the time Nick said, uh, you know, this and that.
02:03:57.000And it's just, you know, not gonna be a fun time.
02:06:06.000And she was not happy, you know But she didn't she didn't say anything, you know She kind of took it like a champ and you know The party went on and I had a good time at the party, you know
02:06:17.000And then like, uh, you know, probably a week or two later, she was like, I asked you out and you know, you said I'm good.
02:06:23.000So this allegedly, you know, tore her up inside.
02:06:50.000It's, I guess it's happened in like subtle ways.
02:06:52.000I'm sort of autistic so, you know, because girls have tried to get my attention before and only until after the fact I realized, oh, they were trying to...
02:07:01.000People have texted me the most outrageous things and I don't even but I know I don't even see what is I can't read between the lines many times because I'm just look I'm just kind of a weird guy I'm a little you know sort of off you know I'm a very uh what is the word
02:07:19.000neurotic sort of sort of guy so So I don't really I don't really catch the drift a lot of the times I can't really read between the lines, but that was the one time when there was an explicit Proposition made and I was like, you know, no, thanks So, uh, so yeah, so, you know you block me on snapchat Well, you know you tried to ask me I might turn you down so who won there so wins, you know
02:07:45.000Anyway, Jerry says, I hope you like that joke, or that story.
02:07:50.000Julie says, donating to wish Black Swan the best of luck.
02:07:53.000Truly heartwarming and I hope he has best days ahead.
02:07:58.000It's a little, I don't know, I mean it's a touchy subject, but you know, I guess if you're reforming, if you're reforming in that lifestyle, that's what we want to see.
02:09:13.000Drugs, sexual promiscuity, misery, disease, all these things, and ultimately nobody wins.
02:09:20.000You know, even these people that are like, you know, we're gonna shirk the Christian moral code, and we're, you know, love is love, we're gonna do our thing finally.
02:10:30.000You know, a lot of it is, oh no, but it has to be Catholic Mass, and it has to be Catholic traditional Latin Mass, and it has to be Catholic this.
02:10:36.000I mean, sure, you gotta live a devout life, and that's gotta be it, but, you know, um, I don't know, it just strikes me as LARP-y, you know, that's, uh, people need to look at their options.
02:10:47.000Brian Shepard says, who wins in a fight?
02:11:11.000He worked out some deal with Daddy, and they got some Hollywood producer, and...
02:11:15.000You know, some big money guy involved?
02:11:19.000So yeah, maybe if Ben Shapiro could work out some deal where somebody sneaks into the fight at the last minute, runs interference, distracts the referee, he uses a steel chair.
02:11:27.000You know, that'd be how Ben Shapiro could pull out a win.
02:11:44.000I don't like the way that sounds that sounds like covert anti-semitism Disavow disavow, you know saying it like it's a bad thing, you know, look I
02:12:56.000My conservative digest was like, it was all Normie stuff.
02:12:59.000It was Ben Shapiro, it was Andrew Clavin, Bill Whittle, Fox News, Mark Levin, you know, all that kind of thing.
02:13:07.000And I couldn't get red-pilled by circumstance.
02:13:09.000So, then I go to college and I see what's going on, I get exposed to some new stuff, and the rest is history, but...
02:13:15.000That's how it's actually very easy to see you know so it's not evident when you're uh when you're in the bubble and it doesn't affect you and you're not uh sort of a fringe internet culture sort of a guy you don't get exposed to that stuff so that was a normie cg says here's 10 bucks hey forget about it hey thanks uh first name says nick what's a cat boy i'm out of the loop you know just look it up it's whatever
02:13:40.000Generation Z Philosophy says, Behold, Matt Bowling, a pristine Aryan specimen.
02:14:27.000Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy's the finest, but, you know, Late Registration, College Dropout, Round Out, The Trilogy, 808s is, you know, a game changer, and maybe wrap it up with Life of Pablo, but...