00:00:14.000I am very excited to be with you tonight here on Thursday.
00:00:18.000And of course, I am joining you for the final presidential debate President Trump versus Vice President Joe Biden under two weeks, less than two weeks before the election.
00:01:22.000You know, I've been saying for a long time that this is a very critical and important debate, especially because we only have two opportunities, right?
00:01:38.000In other words, two opportunities before a massive audience of probably nearly 100 million people each to make the case.
00:01:46.000To expose Biden as senile or incompetent or corrupt or whatever.
00:01:52.000But, you know, somebody pointed out to me earlier this evening before the show that in actuality, close to 50 million people have already voted.
00:02:02.00050 million people have already cast their ballots in the 2020 election absentee or early voting, absentee ballots or early voting.
00:02:11.000So, in some ways, the election is something like between a third and Halfway already decided.
00:02:21.000If in 2016, I believe the total amount of voters was something like, oh, what, 120 or 150 million people, then 50 out of 120 to 150 million, you know, at the minimum, that's a third of all the voters have already voted through early or absentee ballots.
00:02:42.000In addition to that, you have to consider the fact that probably 90% of voters who have yet to vote have already made up their minds about who they're going to support.
00:02:51.000You have to think to yourself, how many people remain undecided?
00:02:55.000How many people that are undecided voters will have their opinion swayed tonight in this debate?
00:03:02.000You know, I think we're expecting somewhere between 50 and 100 million people watching the debate in all different mediums tonight, whether that's watching it on cable television or watching it on streaming.
00:03:15.000And how many out of them are undecided, have not voted, and have yet to make up their mind such that.
00:03:22.000The performance by either candidate will sway them.
00:03:26.000I don't know to what extent the debate will really have that great of effect.
00:03:29.000I've been saying for a long time it's a big opportunity, it's all hinging on this.
00:03:35.000But to play devil's advocate, what I've just told you is that maybe it's a much smaller percentage of the electorate that can be swayed by this after all.
00:03:44.000I will say though, and this is something that I've been saying for the past three days on the show every single vote counts.
00:03:51.000And if we look at the victory margin for the most important swing states in 2016, states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida, those three states put Trump over 270.
00:04:03.000And in each of those states, the vote margin was thousands of votes.
00:04:11.000And so, if that's the case, what percentage of people watching tonight could potentially be swing voters in one or two or three swing states?
00:04:28.000So, you know, there's sort of two schools of thought.
00:04:30.000On the one hand, many people have voted, on the other hand, when it comes down to those narrow margins, Every vote counts, and a performance like this is a huge opportunity.
00:04:39.000I think no matter which way you cut it.
00:04:41.000I'll say, though, about the debate itself, it's very interesting the topics which are discussed and the topics which are not discussed.
00:04:49.000For example, there's not one question about immigration in this debate.
00:04:54.000They announced the debate topics beforehand, and among them are race and police in the cities, and climate change and the coronavirus pandemic, but not immigration.
00:05:06.000They're not talking about immigration tonight.
00:05:08.000They didn't talk about immigration two weeks ago.
00:05:12.000They didn't talk about immigration last week in the vice presidential debate.
00:05:16.000And it's interesting because immigration was one of the deciding issues in the 2016 election.
00:05:21.000According to the exit polling, immigration was one of the top issues that voters cared about.
00:05:25.000And throughout the past four years, depending on what time you're looking at it, immigration was, at various times in the past four years, one of the most important issues for all voters and for Republican voters.
00:05:37.000It's interesting that they're not covering that.
00:05:41.000So, you know, if I have any criticism right out of the gate, I think that if you're looking at what is to be discussed and what is not going to be discussed tonight, already they're kind of framing the conversation in a particular way.
00:05:53.000You know, for example, I perceive climate change, which is a planned topic tonight, as basically a left wing issue.
00:06:02.000It's not to say that right wing people aren't environmentalists or can't be environmentalists, but it is to say that obviously Democrats push climate change very strongly.
00:06:13.000And that is one of the issues that their voters care about, maybe more than many others.
00:06:17.000And compare that to the issues that Republicans care about, like immigration or things like that, which are not being discussed.
00:06:23.000So, right out of the gate, there's a little bit of bias.
00:06:26.000Tonight, the debate is going to be hosted by NBC, and the moderator's name is Kirsten Welker.
00:06:32.000And I think she's going to be completely biased if I'm telling the truth.
00:06:37.000The three moderators for the three debates that we've watched, or the two debates that we've watched, plus the third one tonight, have all been hardcore liberals.
00:06:47.000Of course, members of the mainstream media in the two debates we've seen so far have not given the Republican ticket a fair shake.
00:06:55.000I don't expect that to happen tonight.
00:06:59.000And so Trump's got a difficult task here because we know that he's going in with a disadvantage because the moderator is going to be rigged.
00:07:06.000It's going to be rigged questions, it's rigged topics.
00:07:10.000I'm sure that the discretionary handling of the debate will be rigged as well.
00:07:15.000I'm sure that Trump will be interrupted more times than Biden.
00:07:19.000Will be enforced much more harshly against Trump.
00:07:22.000I'm sure that there will be much more difficult questions for Trump and they will be pursued as opposed to with Biden.
00:07:29.000So Trump is stepping into it, obviously, with the disadvantage from the get go.
00:07:33.000But more than that, Trump has more difficult victory conditions.
00:07:38.000Biden is going in with the advantage, you know, the structural advantage of not having the moderation and the questions rigged against him.
00:07:45.000But more than that, all Biden has to do in this debate is get through it.
00:07:51.000He's just got to survive for 90 minutes.
00:07:54.000Literally, like, not die, not have an episode, not have a horrible gaffe.
00:08:00.000And as long as he does that, he is meeting his victory conditions for the debate tonight.
00:08:04.000As far as that goes, that is a win for Joe Biden.
00:08:06.000If he just gets through the 90 minutes without looking like a complete idiot or dying, he wins.
00:08:13.000For Trump to win, he has got to decisively come out on top.
00:08:20.000You know, forget about a substantial or significant pitfall, but any kind of a moment where the moderator, who he'll be debating against as well as his opponent, will get one over on him.
00:08:31.000He has also got to make himself look presidential, appeal maybe to some of these demographics he needs, like suburban women, college educated whites, categories like this.
00:08:42.000He also has to undermine Biden's credibility, all at the same time contending with the disadvantage and the moderation.
00:08:49.000So his victory conditions are more intense, and he's at a disadvantage.
00:08:53.000And that's what I'll be watching for tonight.
00:08:55.000The other big development for this debate is the rule change.
00:08:59.000So after the first debate, of course, the sort of universal approved reaction was that it was a shit show.
00:09:06.000And they said that they have to change the rules of the debate before the next presidential debate.
00:09:11.000And there was discussion in the Presidential Debate Commission about whether or not the Debate Commission would enable the moderators to mute the presidential candidates if they're interrupting, if they're being unruly.
00:09:23.000Ultimately, they actually reached a pretty moderate solution, which is that in the two minute opening statements, the opposite candidate will be muted.
00:09:35.000So during this debate, Donald Trump will give a two minute opening statement.
00:09:38.000During which Joe Biden's microphone will be muted, and then Joe Biden will give a two minute opening statement, and Donald Trump's microphone will be muted.
00:09:46.000After that, the mute button is taken away.
00:09:49.000As far as we know, the mute button is not enabled for the rest of the debate, except for that two minute opening statement from each candidate.
00:09:56.000So, as far as that goes, I think that that is beneficial to Trump.
00:10:03.000If they had introduced the mute button and allowed the moderators to use it at their discretion as liberally as they wanted, That would only increase the structural disadvantage against Trump.
00:10:12.000So I thought that, in light of the first debate and the obviously astroturfed media backlash and demand for a more controlled debate, this is a relatively moderate solution.
00:10:24.000So I think that that shouldn't be a huge problem for Trump.
00:10:27.000But it looks like we're getting started here.
00:10:29.000I'm going to turn on our volume because it looks like we are beginning.
00:10:48.000And welcome back to our special coverage of tonight's final presidential debate, just moments away now.
00:10:52.000And that is the scene at Belmont University in Nashville, where President Trump and Vice President Biden will take the stage for 90 minutes and take questions from moderator Kristen Welker of NBC News.
00:11:03.000Just 12 days to go in this election, almost 50 million Americans have already voted, a sign of the times in a presidential race transformed by the pandemic and a sign of how engaged Americans are in this race.
00:11:15.000Also, a warning sign for President Trump.
00:11:17.000He's behind in the national polls right now and the key battleground states.
00:11:21.000The pool of undecided voters is shrinking by the day.
00:11:23.000He's got to do something tonight to shake up this race.
00:11:27.000Our Chief White House correspondent, John Carl, is on the scene in Nashville.
00:11:31.000And George, when the president is behind, he goes on the attack.
00:11:35.000I expect that is what will happen here.
00:11:37.000I think he will go after Joe Biden in very personal ways, going after his family, going after his son, Hunter Biden's business dealings, regardless of whether or not there are any questions.
00:12:25.000They think that the camera's going to catch COVID?
00:12:32.000But this is what happens when stupid things like this are politicized, right?
00:12:38.000Because anybody with common sense would say that it's contextual.
00:12:41.000You wear the mask, you know, allegedly, if you're not social distanced.
00:12:47.000If you're within the six foot range, you wear the mask so that if you have it, you don't spread it, and if someone else has it, you don't contract it.
00:12:56.000But then they're like, we're social distanced, we're tested negative, I'm talking in front of a camera, but I'm wearing a mask because it's now a fucking political attack.
00:13:03.000Talked to Biden supporters who are not.
00:13:37.000Good evening from Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee.
00:13:41.000I'm Kristen Welker of NBC News, and I welcome you to the final 2020 presidential debate between President Donald J. Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden.
00:17:17.000But I've been congratulated by the heads of many countries on what we've been able to do.
00:17:23.000If you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else, and in particular ventilators, we're now making ventilators.
00:17:34.000All over the world, thousands and thousands a month, distributing them all over the world.
00:17:38.000It will go away, and as I say, we're rounding the turn, we're rounding the corner.
00:18:00.000Anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, not saying I take no responsibility initially, Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America.
00:18:14.000We're in a situation where there are 1,000 deaths a day now, 1,000 deaths a day.
00:18:20.000And there are over 70,000 new cases per day.
00:18:25.000Compared to what's going on in Europe, as the New England Medical Journal said, they're starting from a very low rate.
00:18:50.000And we're in a circumstance where the president, thus far, and still has no plan, no comprehensive plan.
00:18:57.000What I would do is make sure we have everyone encouraged to wear a mask all the time.
00:19:02.000I would make sure we move in the direction of rapid testing, investing in rapid testing.
00:19:07.000I would make sure that we set up national standards as to how to open up schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the wherewithal, the financial resources to be able to do that.
00:19:19.000We're in a situation now where the New England Medical Journal, one of the most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever that the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic.
00:19:33.000And so, folks, I will take care of this.
00:20:31.000No, I think my timeline is going to be more accurate.
00:20:33.000I don't know that they're counting on the military the way I do, but we have our generals lined up, one in particular that's the head of logistics.
00:20:41.000And this is a very easy distribution for him.
00:20:44.000He's ready to go as soon as we have the vaccine.
00:20:46.000And we expect to have 100 million vials as soon as we have the vaccine, he's ready to go.
00:20:52.000Vice President Biden, your reaction in just 40% of the time.
00:23:17.000And then what happened was we started talking about using the Defense Act to make sure we go out and get whatever is needed out there to protect people.
00:24:09.000And Kirsten, every meeting I had, every meeting I had, and I'd meet a lot of families, including Gold Star families and military families, every meeting I had, and I had to meet them.
00:27:13.000Let's talk about your different strategies toward dealing with this.
00:27:15.000Mr. Vice President, you suggested you would support new shutdowns if scientists recommended it.
00:27:20.000What do you say to Americans who are fearful that the cost of shutdowns, the impact on the economy, the higher rates of hunger, depression, domestic and substance abuse outweigh the risk of exposure to the virus?
00:27:31.000What I would say is I'm going to shut down the virus, not the country.
00:27:34.000It's his ineptitude that caused the country to have to shut down in large part.
00:27:39.000Why businesses have gone under, why schools are closed, why so many people have lost their living, and why they're concerned.
00:27:47.000That's why he should have been, instead of in a sand trap in his golf course, he should have been negotiating with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats and Republicans about what to do about the acts they were passing for billions of dollars to make sure people had the capacity.
00:28:01.000But you haven't ruled out more shutdowns.
00:28:04.000No, I'm not shutting down the Navy, but there are, look, You need standards.
00:28:08.000The standard is if you have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level, everybody says slow up, more social distancing, do not open bars and do not open gymnasiums, do not open until you get this under control, under more control.
00:28:24.000But when you do open, give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely.
00:28:52.000His Democrat governors, Cuomo in New York, you look at what's going on in California, you look at Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Democrats, Democrats all, they're shut down so tight and they're dying.
00:29:23.000Young people, I guess it's their immune system.
00:29:25.000Let me follow up with you, President Trump.
00:29:27.000You've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely.
00:29:30.000But just yesterday, Boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online after a coronavirus spike.
00:29:38.000What is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger not only their kids, but also their teachers and families?
00:34:55.000In the meantime, we find out in the New York Times, you'll hear that in fact his folks went to Wall Street and said this is a really dangerous thing.
00:35:01.000And a memo out of that meeting, not from his administration, but from some of the brokers, said, sell short because we've got to get moving.
00:35:25.000As president and as somebody that knows most of those people, I could call the heads of Wall Street, the heads of every company in America, I would blow away every record, but I don't want to do that because it puts me in a bad position.
00:35:49.000In fact, we beat Hillary Clinton with a tiny fraction of the money that she was able to get.
00:35:54.000All right, gentlemen, we're going to move on to the next section, which is national security.
00:36:01.000And I do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from overnight.
00:36:06.000Just last night, I would, I enjoy that.
00:36:08.000The U.S. government has confirmed again that both Russia and Iran are working to influence this election.
00:36:13.000Both countries have obtained U.S. voter registration information, these officials say, and Iran sent intimidating messages to Florida voters.
00:36:21.000This question goes to you, Mr. Vice President.
00:36:23.000What would you do to put an end to this threat?
00:36:40.000And it's been overwhelmingly clear this election, I won't even get into the last one, this election that Russia has been involved, China has been involved to some degree, and now we learn that Iran is involved.
00:37:45.000And then you find out that everything that's going on here about Russia is wanting to make sure that I do not get elected the next president because they know me.
00:37:59.000I don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on Putin when he's actually paying bounties to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan, when he's engaged in activities that are trying to destabilize all of NATO.
00:38:12.000I don't know why he doesn't do it, but it's worth asking the question.
00:38:36.000Well, let me respond to the first part as Joe answered.
00:38:40.000Joe got three and a half million dollars from Russia, and it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the mayor of Moscow's wife.
00:39:00.000Now, about your thing last night, I knew all about that.
00:39:04.000And through John, who is John Redcliffe, who is a fantastic DNI, he said the one thing that's common to both of them they both want you to lose because there has been nobody tougher to Russia between the sanctions, nobody tougher than me on Russia.
00:39:21.000Between the sanctions, between all of what I've done with NATO.
00:39:25.000You know, I've got the NATO countries to put up an extra $130 billion, going to $420 billion a year.
00:43:44.000I want to ask you both about questions regarding your potential foreign entanglements and questions that have been raised to give you both a chance to talk about this more broadly.
00:43:53.000Respond very quickly, and then I'll get to my question.
00:44:59.000I guarantee you, if I spent 1 million on you, Joe, I could find plenty wrong.
00:45:03.000Because the kind of things that you've done and the kind of monies that your family has taken, I mean, your brother made money in Iraq millions of dollars.
00:45:21.000All right, gentlemen, let me just ask some questions about all of this broadly.
00:45:24.000Vice President Biden, there have been questions about the work your son has done in China and.
00:45:28.000For a Ukrainian energy company when you were vice president, in retrospect, was anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical?
00:45:40.000With regard to Ukraine, we had this whole question about whether or not, because he was on the board, I later learned of a Burisma, a company, that somehow I had done something wrong.
00:45:51.000Yet every single solitary person when he was going through his impeachment, testifying under oath who worked for him, said, I did my job impeccably.
00:46:09.000Number two, the guy who got in trouble in Ukraine was this guy trying to bribe the Ukrainian government to say something negative about me.
00:50:08.000And that's what we did in upholding steel tariffs and a range of other things when we were president and vice president.
00:50:13.000All right, let's talk about North Korea.
00:50:15.000Excuse me, no, I have to respond to that.
00:50:18.000I'm going to move out with a billion and a half dollars from China to manage after spending 10 minutes in office and being in Air Force Two, number one.
00:50:26.000Number two, there's a very strong email talking about your family wanting to make $10 million a year for introductions.
00:50:34.000President Trump on China policy, though.
00:50:36.000What's the moderator running interference now?
00:53:10.000And he does have plenty of nuclear capability.
00:53:13.000In the meantime, I have a very good relationship with him.
00:53:16.000Different kind of a guy, but he probably thinks the same thing about me.
00:53:19.000We have a different kind of a relationship.
00:53:21.000We have a very good relationship, and there's no war.
00:53:24.000And you know, about two months ago, he broke into a certain area.
00:53:29.000They said, Oh, there's going to be trouble.
00:53:30.000I said, No, they're not, because he's not going to do that.
00:53:33.000Look, instead of being in a war where millions of people, Seoul, you know, is 25 miles away, millions and millions, 32 million people in Seoul, millions of people would be dead right now.
00:54:32.000He's talked about his good buddy who's a thug, a thug.
00:54:36.000And he talks about how we're better off.
00:54:37.000And they have much more capable missiles, able to reach U.S. territory much more easily than ever did before.
00:54:44.000Let me follow up with you, Vice President Biden.
00:54:46.000You've said you wouldn't meet with Kim Jong un without preconditions.
00:54:49.000Are there any conditions under which you would meet with him?
00:54:52.000On the condition that he would agree that he would be drawing down his nuclear capacity to get the Korean Peninsula to be a nuclear free zone.
00:55:00.000All right, let's move on to American families.
00:55:04.000Very quickly, in 10 seconds, President.
00:55:05.000They tried to meet with him, he wouldn't do it.
00:55:59.000And in fact, if you remember the first two or three months, there was a very dangerous period of my first three months before we sort of worked things out a little bit.
00:58:12.000But conservative health care, always protecting people with pre existing conditions.
00:58:17.000And one thing very important we have 180 million people out there that have great private health care, far more than we're talking about with Obamacare.
00:58:26.000Joe Biden is going to terminate all of those policies.
00:58:29.000These are people that love their health care, people that have been successful, middle income people, been successful.
00:58:35.000They have 180 million plans, 180 million people, families.
00:58:42.000Under what he wants to do, which will basically be socialized medicine, he won't even have a choice.
00:58:47.000They want to terminate 180 million plans.
00:58:50.000We have done an incredible job on health care, and we're going to do even better.
00:59:13.000The public option is an option that says that if you, in fact, do not have the wherewithal to be, if you qualify for Medicaid and you do not have the wherewithal in your State to get Medicaid, you automatically are enrolled, providing competition for insurance companies.
00:59:30.000Secondly, we're going to make sure we reduce the premiums and reduce drug prices by making sure that there's competition that doesn't exist now by allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
00:59:45.000Thirdly, the idea that I want to eliminate private insurance, the reason why I had such a fight with 20 candidates for a nomination was I support.
01:00:23.000He's been talking about this for a long time.
01:00:25.000There is no, he's never come up with a plan.
01:00:27.000I guess we're going to get the pre existing condition plan the same time we get the infrastructure plan that we've been waiting for since 17, 18, 19, and 20.
01:00:35.000The fact, I still have a few more minutes.
01:01:41.000It's gotten endorsed by all the major labor unions, as well as a whole range of other people who, in fact, are concerned in the medical field.
01:01:49.000This is something that's going to save people's lives, and this is going to give some people an opportunity, an opportunity to have health care for their children.
01:01:57.000How many of you home are worried and rolling around in bed tonight, wondering what, in God's name, you're going to do if you get sick?
01:02:02.000Because you've lost your home insurance, your health insurance, your company's gone under.
01:02:07.000We have to provide health insurance for people and an affordable.
01:03:50.000Justin, when he says public option, he's talking about socialized medicine and health care.
01:03:56.000When he talks about a public option, he's talking about destroying your Medicare, totally destroying it, and destroying your Social Security.
01:04:04.000And this whole country will come down.
01:04:06.000You know, Bernie Sanders tried it in his state.
01:04:27.000And the idea that we're in a situation that they're going to destroy Medicare, this is the guy that the actuary at Medicare said, if in fact, at Social Security, if in fact he continues to withhold his plan to withhold the tax on Social Security, Social Security will be bankrupt by 2023.
01:05:34.000Just in the last three years during this crisis, the billionaires in this country made, according to Wall Street, 700 billion more dollars.
01:07:38.000When I was in charge of the Recovery Act with $800 billion, I was able to get $145 billion to local communities that have to balance their budgets and states that have to balance their budgets, so then they have to fire firefighters, teachers, first responders, law enforcement officers, so they can keep their cities and counties running.
01:08:09.000The bill that was passed in the House was a bailout of badly run, high crime Democrat.
01:08:15.000All run by Democrats, cities, and states.
01:08:18.000It was a way of getting a lot of money, billions and billions of dollars to these kids.
01:08:23.000It was also a way of getting a lot of money from our people's pockets to people that come into our country illegally.
01:08:31.000We were going to take care of everything for them.
01:08:33.000And what that does, and I'd love to do that, I'd love to help them, but what that does, everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country.
01:08:59.000What I see is American, United States.
01:09:02.000And folks, every single state out there finds themselves in trouble.
01:09:06.000They're going to start laying off, whether they're red or blue, cops, firefighters, first responders, teachers, because they have to balance their budget.
01:14:31.000So, why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now?
01:14:36.000This is why women don't belong in politics.
01:14:38.000Well, I mean, I guess the men moderators were just the same, but still.
01:14:41.000I'll be president of the United States, not vice president of the United States.
01:14:44.000And the fact is, I've made it very clear.
01:14:47.000Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people.
01:14:55.000And all of those so called dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship.
01:15:05.000The idea that They are being sent home by this guy, and they want to do that.
01:15:10.000Is they've gone to a country they've never seen before.
01:15:13.000I can imagine you're five years old, your parents are taking you across the Rio Grande River, and it's illegal.
01:15:21.000And you say, Oh, no, Mom, leave me here.
01:16:15.000This is the first president in the history of the United States of America that anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country.
01:16:23.000That's never happened before in America.
01:16:25.000That's never happened before in America.
01:16:26.000You come to the United States and you make your case that I seek asylum based on the following premise why I deserve it under American law.
01:16:36.000They're sitting in squalor on the other side of the river.
01:16:39.000President Trump, your response 30 seconds and then we'll move on.
01:16:42.000It just shows that he has no understanding of immigration or the laws.
01:17:49.000All right, let's talk about our next section, which is race in America.
01:17:54.000And I want to talk about the way black and brown Americans experience race in this country.
01:17:59.000Part of that experience is something called the talk.
01:18:03.000It happens regardless of class and income.
01:18:06.000Parents who feel they have no choice but to prepare their children for the chance that they could be targeted, including by the police, for no reason other than the color of their skin.
01:18:17.000Mr. Vice President, in the next two minutes, I want you to speak directly to these families.
01:18:22.000Do you understand why these parents fear for their children?
01:18:27.000You know, my daughter is a social worker, and she's written a lot about this.
01:18:33.000She has her graduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania in social work.
01:18:37.000And, you know, one of the reasons why I ended up working on the east side of Wilmington, Delaware, which is 90% African-American, was to learn more about what was going on.
01:18:48.000What I didn't, I never had to tell my daughter, if she's pulled over, make sure she puts for a traffic stop, put both hands on top of the wheel.
01:18:57.000and don't reach for the glove box because someone may shoot you.
01:19:00.000But a black parent, no matter how wealthy or how poor they are, has to teach their child when you're walking down the street, don't have a hoodie on when you go across the street.
01:19:10.000Making sure that you, in fact, if you get pulled over, yes, yes, sir, no, sir, hands on top of the wheel, because you are, in fact, the victim, whether you're a person making $300,000, child of a $300,000 a year person, or someone who's on food stamps.
01:19:27.000The fact of the matter is, there is institutional racism in America.
01:19:32.000And we have always said we've never lived up to it, that we hold these truths to be self evident.
01:19:52.000We have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to schooling, better access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses.
01:20:04.000All the things we can do, and I've laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things just to give people a shot.
01:20:11.000It's about accumulating the ability to have wealth as well as it is to be free from violence.
01:20:17.000President Trump, same question to you, and let me remind you of the question.
01:20:21.000I would like you to speak directly to these families.
01:20:23.000Do you understand why these parents fear for their children?
01:20:46.0001994, your crime bill, the super predators.
01:20:51.000Nobody has done more for the black community than Donald Trump.
01:20:55.000And if you look, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln, possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what I've done.
01:21:05.000Criminal justice reform, Obama and Joe didn't do it.
01:21:10.000I don't even think they tried because they had no chance at doing it.
01:21:14.000They might have wanted to do it, but if you had to see the arms I had to twist to get that done, it was not a pretty picture.
01:21:21.000And everybody knows it, including some very liberal people that cried in my office.
01:22:13.00010 year long term funding, and I gave them more money.
01:22:17.000Than they asked for because they said, I think you need more.
01:22:20.000And I said, the only bad part about this is I may never see you again because I got very friendly with them and they like me and I like them.
01:22:27.000But I saved colleges and universities.
01:22:31.000And we're going to talk about both of your records.
01:22:33.000But your response to that, Vice President?
01:22:35.000My response to that is I never, ever said what he accused me of saying.
01:22:40.000The fact of the matter is, in 2000, though, after the crime bill had been in the law for a while, this is a guy who said, the problem with the crime bill, there's not enough people in jail.
01:23:00.000Young gangs and the people who are going to maraud our cities.
01:23:04.000This is a guy who, in the Central Park Five, five innocent black kids, he continued to push for making sure that they got the death penalty.
01:23:12.000None of them were guilty of the crime of the black criminal killer.
01:24:13.000You keep talking about all these things you're going to do, and you're going to do this, but you were there just a short time ago, and you guys did nothing.
01:26:11.000We're going to continue on the issue of race.
01:26:13.000Mr. President, you've described the Black Lives Matter movement as a symbol of the value of a man who's been offered to millions of your supporters.
01:26:22.000You've said that black professional athletes exercising their First Amendment rights should be fired.
01:28:58.000Trump's going to get 2% of the black vote.
01:29:00.000Vice President Biden, let me give you a chance to respond within this context.
01:29:04.000Crime bills that you supported in the 80s and 90s contributed to the incarceration of tens of thousands of young black men who had small amounts of drugs in their lives.
01:30:05.000That's what I'm going to get done because I think maybe.
01:30:08.000The American people have now seen that, in fact, it was a mistake to pass those laws relating to drugs, but they were not in the crime bill.
01:30:41.000From 38,000 prisoners in federal prison.
01:30:47.000There were over 1,000 people who were given clemency.
01:30:50.000In fact, we're the ones that put in the legislation saying we could look at the pattern and practice of police departments and what they were doing, how they were conducting themselves.
01:30:59.000I could go on, but we began the process.
01:33:59.000Climate change, climate warming, global warming is an existential threat to humanity.
01:34:05.000We have a moral obligation to deal with it.
01:34:09.000And we're told by all the leading scientists in the world we don't have much time.
01:34:14.000We're going to pass the point of no return within the next eight to ten years.
01:34:18.000Former years of this man eliminating all the regulations that were put in by us to clean up the climate, to clean up, to limit the emissions, will put us in a position where we're going to be in real trouble.
01:34:32.000Here's where we have a great opportunity.
01:34:34.000I was able to get both all the environmental organizations as well as labor.
01:34:39.000The people worried about jobs to support my climate plan.
01:34:43.000Because what it does, it will create millions of new good paying jobs.
01:34:48.000We're going to invest in, for example, 500,000, 50,000, excuse me, 50,000 charging stations on our highways so that we can own the electric car market of the future.
01:35:01.000We're going to be in a position where we're going to see to it that we're going to take 4 million existing building buildings and 2 million existing homes.
01:35:10.000And retrofit them so they don't leak as much energy, saving hundreds of millions of barrels of oil in the process and creating a significant number of jobs.
01:35:32.000And right now, by the way, Wall Street firms indicated that my plan will, in fact, create 18.6 million jobs.
01:35:42.000Seven million more than his, this is from Wall Street, and I'll create one trillion dollars more in economic growth than his proposal does.
01:38:20.000It's extremely expensive, kills all the birds, it's very intermittent, it's got a lot of problems, and they happen to make the windmills in both Germany and China.
01:38:29.000And the fumes coming up, if you're a believer in carbon emission, the fumes coming up to make these massive windmills.
01:38:36.000Is more than anything that we're talking about with natural gas, which is very clean.
01:39:22.000I do rule out banning fracking because the answer we need other industries to transition to get to ultimately a complete zero emissions by 2025.
01:39:35.000What I will do with fracking over time is make sure that we can capture the emissions from the fracking, capture the emissions from gas.
01:39:44.000We can do that, and we can do that by investing money and doing it.
01:40:26.000Your administration has rolled back regulations on these kinds of facilities.
01:40:30.000Why should these families give you another four years in office?
01:40:33.000The families that we're talking about are employed heavily and they are making a lot of money, more money than they've ever made.
01:40:40.000If you look at the kind of numbers that we produce for Hispanic, for black, for Asian, it's nine times greater the percentage gain than it was under.
01:40:50.000In three years, than it was under eight years of the two of them, to put it nicely.
01:40:59.000Now, somebody lives, I have not heard the numbers or the statistics that you're saying, but they're making a tremendous amount of money economically.
01:41:38.000They live near chemical plants that, in fact, pollute chemical plants and oil plants and refineries that pollute.
01:41:45.000I used to live near that when I was growing up in Claymont, Delaware.
01:41:48.000And all the more oil refineries in Marcus Hook and the Delaware River than there is any place, including in Houston at the time.
01:41:55.000When my mom got in the car when there was first frost to drive me to school, turned in the windshield, there'd be an oil slick in the window.
01:42:01.000That's why so many people in my state were dying.
01:44:20.000We had the best black unemployment numbers in the history of our country Hispanic, women, Asian, people with diplomas, with no diplomas, MIT graduates, number one in the class.
01:45:34.000And at the same time, we can make sure that our economy is being run and moved and motivated by clean energy, creating millions of new jobs.
01:45:47.000And I'm going to say, as I said at the beginning, what is on the ballot here is the character of this country, decency, honor, respect, treating people with dignity.
01:45:58.000Making sure that everyone has an even chance.
01:46:01.000And I'm going to make sure you get that.
01:46:03.000You haven't been getting it the last four years.
01:50:43.000In the first performance, Trump tried very hard in the first 30 minutes of the debate to get Biden off balance, interrupting, belittling, aggressive, which I think is Trump's style.
01:50:57.000And of course, the reaction to that was mixed.
01:51:04.000I think everybody else might have been annoyed, you know, might have found that uncomfortable.
01:51:10.000Like there was a draw, no clear winner.
01:51:12.000And we don't really know because we don't have reliable information about when they do polling after the debates, it's notoriously unreliable about how people feel after the debates.
01:51:36.000He was also actually even a little bit playful.
01:51:38.000I thought we saw shades even of the Trump that we saw in 2016, particularly when he was talking about Joe Biden being in office a long time.
01:51:48.000There was one point in the debate when Trump said, You're the reason I ran.
01:51:58.0002016 moments, not only because the rhetoric was similar about insider versus outsider, politician versus non politician, but it was one of those moments where Trump kind of looked right through Joe Biden.
01:52:12.000It was that 2016 energy because he said something that kind of cut through all the usual platitudes, the partisan talking points.
01:52:54.000I'll say, though, that an approach like that has its limits because clearly Trump was being abused by the moderator.
01:53:02.000It became apparent maybe around 8 40 or 8 50, about 40 or 50 minutes into the debate, that Biden was struggling.
01:53:10.000Clearly, Biden is on some kind of drug regimen to get him through these things because you watch him on interviews and he's terrible.
01:53:19.000They hide him from the public for the most part because he's not mentally competent.
01:53:23.000So, I'm sure they put him on something for the 90 minutes for the debate.
01:53:27.000And I'm sure they've been preparing for the past couple of days, getting him to memorize questions, which presumably they're getting in advance.
01:53:35.000And of course, the limitations of the medication are that he is up on the stage uninterrupted for 90 minutes.
01:53:41.000At a certain point, the medication, which is giving him a boost in the beginning, begins to wear off.
01:53:58.000And it was clear that the moderator, who, in my opinion, was doing well up until that point, was being fair and asking, I think, reasonable questions, then began to blatantly, obviously, and aggressively interfere on behalf of Joe Biden.
01:54:13.000And it was the same thing that we saw in the town hall.
01:54:15.000It was the same thing that we saw in the Pence versus Harris debate.
01:54:28.000Biden would then engage what Trump was saying in a retort, and she would give him the floor for 30 seconds, a minute, really as long as he wanted.
01:54:37.000Trump would try to get it back and retort, oh no, but then we have to move on.
01:54:43.000And even when Trump was given a question and he would have a minute or two minutes to answer it, she would interrupt, just like in the first debate.
01:54:51.000Total aggression and following up with the questions with Trump and pitching a question to Biden and letting him take it wherever, not following up, no scrutiny, nothing like that.
01:55:02.000It also became apparent towards the end that the questions were completely biased.
01:55:06.000You know, at the end, she asked him, for example, about race relations.
01:55:11.000And the question she's listing you retweeted a video where someone said white power.
01:55:17.000This is how she talks about the NFL kneelers.
01:55:20.000She says, You said that professional athletes who exercise their First Amendment rights doing their job were something.
01:55:28.000Is that the phrasing of a fair question, or does that sound like a Democrat talking?
01:55:33.000That is a completely left wing question.
01:55:36.000And in a deliberately left wing way to phrase that question, it's phrased like an attack, it's begging the question.
01:55:43.000And that didn't happen in the first half hour, but that was basically the norm from something like the half hour mark through the rest of the debate.
01:55:51.000And it seemed like there was almost no pushback from Trump.
01:55:54.000I thought it was noticeable that Trump didn't call out the moderator about how unfair it was.
01:56:21.000In addition to that, he didn't acknowledge when Biden was failing.
01:56:24.000I thought it would have been a perfect kill shot if after one of those particularly rough Biden answers, Trump said something like, Oh, you know, you're having a rough time tonight, or try getting it out, or something like that.
01:56:36.000Because it's obvious if we're watching the debate, You see that Biden is failing.
01:57:53.000I think they were maybe health care was the only issue that Biden didn't get killed.
01:57:59.000But I tend to prefer the more aggressive style that we saw in the second presidential debate four years ago, the aggressive style we saw in the first debate, although the first debate this year was crazy.
01:58:09.000But it was, in my opinion, too reserved.
01:58:12.000My other criticism of Trump is on health care.
01:58:16.000I don't think I've ever seen Trump give a good answer on healthcare, and there's really no excuse for it.
01:58:21.000He was asked just off the top of my head.
01:58:24.000Last week in the town hall, he was asked about healthcare, and the answer that he gave was, Well, we have Obamacare, and we're going to come up with a plan, and it's going to be cheaper and better.
01:58:39.000You know, I mean, it is acceptable in the sense that it drives the conversation forward, in the sense that, like, when you're asked a question, you're like, Saying something.
01:58:51.000But after four years, health care consistently is one of the most important issues for voters.
01:58:58.000In most elections, it is the most important issue for voters.
01:59:01.000If you look at the polling, a lot of people in our circles, because of the nature of our views, think that immigration is number one.
01:59:09.000Immigration sometimes is number one and very recently has made it into the top five or the top three.
01:59:14.000But health care consistently is one of the number one most important issues for voters.
01:59:18.000If you think it's not important, it's a big deal, especially for the elderly.
01:59:22.000Because seniors vote, seniors have a very high voter turnout rate, and it's seniors that are deeply concerned about pre existing conditions, Medicare, things like that.
01:59:36.000And after a few years, you got to have an answer to that.
01:59:39.000But okay, let's say the town hall was the first time you ever heard of health care.
01:59:43.000He was asked about it in a 60 Minutes interview that he released today on Facebook, in which I think they actually recorded at some point between the town hall and tonight.
02:00:07.000And there's no reason why Democrats should win on that issue because Democrats, like Kamala Harris, who's on the ticket, she wants universal healthcare.
02:00:27.000And Trump did say that, but I never feel like it's packaged in a way that is effective.
02:00:33.000I never feel like it's really all that convincing.
02:00:36.000And there's no reason that we should have a draw on that issue or lose on that issue.
02:00:41.000It should be a grand slam every time because it's so important with critical demographics.
02:00:46.000And what the Democrats are doing with health care is everybody knows.
02:00:50.000And that's all you have to say, by the way, to the elderly they're going to attack Medicare.
02:00:54.000And watch elderly people will vote Trump.
02:00:56.000If they perceive that there's a legitimate threat to Medicare, if they perceive there's a legitimate threat to Social Security or anything like that, they'll flock to Trump.
02:01:05.000So that consistently is one of my gripes with Trump.
02:01:08.000And I saw some people on Twitter were saying, oh, this is a boomer issue.
02:01:49.000Whenever he's asked about race, he does this thing where he says, I have been better for the black community than every president except maybe Abraham Lincoln.
02:02:00.000And, you know, he does a low black unemployment.
02:02:06.000He has to say this on some level to assuage not just blacks, but maybe more importantly, white independents or more liberal or left leaning whites who care whether or not Trump is a racist.
02:02:18.000You know, a lot of people think that when he talks about Low black unemployment, or he's pandering to blacks, that that's the only political benefit.
02:02:26.000But you have to think about it in a different way.
02:02:29.000When Trump is reassuring the moderator, reassuring a general audience that he's not racist, that he's done so much for the black community, in some way, the indirect appeal to whites who care about that is the greater priority than appealing directly to the blacks who are affected by these things.
02:02:49.000Because as we know, blacks historically.
02:02:53.000They do not vote for Republicans, not in this century.
02:02:56.000And really, the track record is rough even in the 20th century, in the second half.
02:03:01.000Who he's appealing to there is, I think, white people who, you know, that's a concern for them.
02:03:06.000Because it's white people that, I mean, they, in addition to blacks, want blacks to be doing well, right?
02:03:11.000But here's the thing when he's asked about BLM and he's asked about race in America, the go to should be let's spend 20% of the time.
02:03:23.000Talking about historically black colleges, low black unemployment, opportunity zones, whatever.
02:03:28.000And then the rest of the answer should be a pivot to riots.
02:04:17.000And this is probably one of the answers where it didn't necessarily catch Trump off guard, but it's probably a question that he didn't prepare for.
02:04:27.000But that was a good thing because, in a question that he's not prepared for, where he's not giving one of these talking points that he says at a rally, like best since Abraham Lincoln and lowest black unemployment, when he's asked a question and he gives a genuine response, he has to actually think about it and what can I find here as opposed to just pivoting to something that he says at rallies.
02:04:48.000Well, then we get a really good answer.
02:04:50.000Then he says, Well, when I first saw Black Lives Matter, when I said that, they said, Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
02:04:56.000That's probably the best thing I've ever heard the president say on race and crime.
02:05:01.000On any tangentially related question in his entire presidency, because it's so true.
02:05:07.000Because that is what everybody has been seeing in the country for four years.
02:05:11.000Everybody wants to pretend that Black Lives Matter is angels.
02:05:47.000We got like a taste of an answer like that, and it was so refreshing, but that should be most of the answer.
02:05:53.000It should be look, you know, the first thing that he should do is completely take the wind out of the sails of people that call him racist, as we all know, and say, look, you know, they call everybody racist.
02:06:10.000Okay, but then you should pivot to an actual right wing perspective.
02:06:15.000What your base thinks about this stuff.
02:06:18.000Do your due diligence to address the media concern and assuage people who are concerned trolling, and then pivot to the right wing frame on this issue, which is crime, surging crime, problems in the cities, anti police sentiment, anarchists, intimidation, cancel culture.
02:07:19.000It was made up, totally ridiculous media controversy that Trump caved to.
02:07:24.000I think it was either last summer, the summer before that, when they really blew that up.
02:07:30.000It must have been 2018 because that's when the caravans were coming through, it was before the midterms.
02:07:35.000So he's asked about the kids in cages and what did he go with?
02:07:38.000By the way, he finished before they called time.
02:07:41.000He would say, like, well, you know, they built the cages and blah, blah, blah.
02:07:45.000And then he relinquished his remaining time on the answer.
02:07:48.000And he just went with that and he said, Yep, this is good enough, which is horrible tactically and strategically.
02:07:54.000Don't give up your time, keep going until they cut you off.
02:07:58.000And then the other thing is the substance.
02:08:01.000Why take a fake accusation from the left and then take the fake accusation that only left wing people believe and say, Oh, well, Biden did it anyway?
02:08:09.000The people that care about that accusation, that believe it, are all left wing.
02:08:14.000And they will never in a million years be convinced that Obama did that or Biden did that and then not vote for Biden.
02:08:21.000That is just every way you cut it, that is a losing thing to say.
02:08:24.000You could take a drive by and say, well, that's fake, but if you want to know who built the cages, it was Obama.
02:08:30.000But why not talk about how Biden said that he would give mass amnesty?
02:08:35.000He would stop deportations for his first 100 days.
02:08:38.000He would give pathway to citizenship and amnesty to all illegal immigrants, which could be up to 30 million.
02:09:12.000And eventually, when he got pressed, he defended catch and release, and he talked about coyotes and drug cartels bringing them across.
02:09:19.000And it's amazing, because when Trump is asked these tough questions, It shows how smart he is.
02:09:25.000You know, when he's asked about wind power, he gives an answer which shows that he knows exactly what he's talking about the fumes or the carbon emissions from the factories that make these things.
02:09:36.000It's well known that when you're developing the equipment for batteries, for example, or the solar panels, often when you're mining the resources that are used in the production, the raw materials in the production of these things, that is one of the worst polluting activities that you can do.
02:09:55.000To mine these like rare earth minerals and these other raw materials to make the batteries, to make the solar panels.
02:10:01.000It's well known that this is the case.
02:10:03.000It shows he knows what he's talking about.
02:10:05.000When he's talking about how it's intermittent as opposed to gas and coal and oil, which is reliable, it shows that he knows what he's talking about.
02:10:13.000But he does it so sort of like cavalierly and like he's just answering a question.
02:10:52.000But it should be stretch it out, make the case, say something like really, you know, compelling and persuasive, explain it to people.
02:10:59.000You know, I feel like he's really in his element when he's answering these questions, but he doesn't really indulge in it in the way that you should when you're in a debate.
02:11:09.000That's when you're really supposed to wow the crowd with your knowledge, break things down for people, and again, keep the frame on a right wing perspective.
02:11:19.000So I thought immigration was like a missed opportunity.
02:11:23.000I thought when he said who built the cages, that was like a good moment, but it could have been so much better if he turned it into.
02:11:30.000Mass immigration, open borders, amnesty, all of that, and especially during a pandemic.
02:11:35.000So, there were a few moments like that, like I said, with the question about BLM and about race and racism on immigration, on healthcare.
02:11:45.000It was good, but I felt like it could have been a lot better.
02:11:48.000But, you know, I'm not here to like subtract points or anything, but it is a little frustrating to watch these debates.
02:11:54.000And, you know, I think I said this last week when Mike Pence was debating, it's a trade off.
02:12:01.000Trump is the only person who could say something like, you know, I ran because of you, which is devastating.
02:12:09.000Trump is the only person who could push Biden like he did and come up with some of the stuff that he does.
02:12:14.000When he annihilated Biden on the fourth wall, you know, Biden says, it's not about my family or his family, it's about you at the dinner table.
02:12:21.000And Trump just, I mean, he ripped him apart on that.
02:12:24.000And that's something that only Trump could do because he is from the gut, no preparation.
02:12:30.000He goes in there and it's just 100% confidence as compared to somebody like Mike Pence, who is all preparation, all talking points, totally measured, conventional style.
02:12:42.000And the trade off is that Mike Pence is 100% articulate.
02:12:48.000It's articulation versus authenticity.
02:12:52.000Trump is totally authentic, but oftentimes the authenticity comes at the expense of being articulate.
02:13:00.000You know, instead of spending a little time going through it and preparing talking points and pivoting on the issue, he's just fielding questions.
02:13:09.000He's just fielding and answering the questions.
02:13:12.000Sometimes it's an unprepared remark that is a kill shot because he's in his element.
02:13:19.000But then the rest of it, it's like you're leaving points on the field, basically.
02:13:24.000Whereas with Mike Pence, you'll never get gold like that.
02:13:27.000You will never get a moment where it's really endearing, where it's one of these extreme critical hits that takes away all their health points.
02:13:35.000But you are going to get overall a much more measured, a much more consistent performance, very articulate, explaining the sort of ruling ideology.
02:13:44.000So it's in that way, it's a little bit of a trade off.
02:14:18.000You know, if you're going to get a talking point and stick to it, It seems like he thinks something is amusing and he kind of thinks it's clever, and then he just says that all the time.
02:14:27.000And I never thought that was really all that persuasive.
02:14:31.000He's got to find better talking points, better ways to reframe the issue, better ways to pivot.
02:15:24.000We'll go over this probably more systematically tomorrow, of course.
02:15:27.000I'm just giving you my sort of initial impressions as they come to me and as I remember.
02:15:32.000Tomorrow I'll go through it probably much more systematically, as we always do, much more systematic analysis, and we'll have ratings and polling and all of that reaction from the media.
02:15:43.000But my initial impression totally rigged.
02:15:48.000I thought that Trump was more reserved, and maybe that cost him.
02:15:52.000In some ways, it was good, but he could have been, I think, more aggressive.
02:17:14.000More than a week, but a lot can change in a week.
02:17:17.00050 million people have already voted, but I mean, who knows what can happen in one week?
02:17:21.000Who knows what will go down on Election Day?
02:17:23.000And we know that it won't stop on Election Day, it only begins on Election Day.
02:17:30.000Election Day is really when the election starts, and this is a battle that will go on then for weeks and maybe months, counting the ballots and states giving their official tally, and then probably those vote counts will be challenged in the courts.
02:17:47.000And probably procedures will be challenged in the Supreme Court, maybe.
02:17:51.000There will be civil unrest in the major cities.
02:17:55.000There will be disinformation from the mainstream media, censorship from social media, and probably it may be things that are unprecedented in American history or modern American history.
02:20:11.000I mean, I guess that appeals to like women.
02:20:15.000That's what bringing women to politics is done.
02:20:17.000We have to bring up the most unfortunate and sorry people to campaign, like eight year old girls and retards and poor people and all that because women are voting.
02:20:29.000If it was men voting, it would be strong, trustworthy, confident people running for office, and you'd get endorsements from, you know, like successful people.
02:20:41.000And people that are beautiful and people that are, you know, men of good character and honorable and things like that.
02:20:48.000And now we get endorsements from like children, people in wheelchairs, people in hospitals, people with like diabetes, foreigners, illegal immigrants, poors.
02:22:52.000You know, if you are ever feeling down, just consider that Trump is the beginning.
02:22:56.000And I'll tell you something that was so white pilling to me.
02:23:00.000I literally cannot get into anything specific because this is high level stuff, man.
02:23:06.000If I could tell you what's going on behind the scenes, people would be pissing their pants, okay?
02:23:12.000The left would instantly mobilize to like murder me, okay?
02:23:17.000And you people would say, this guy is like the greatest ever.
02:23:22.000You would be, I mean, you wouldn't believe what's happening behind the scenes.
02:23:26.000But something happened today, and you know, I've been saying for a long time on the show, I tell people that what I'm counting on, what I've been counting on for years, what America First is inevitable means is that as conditions deteriorate, more people will come around to our side.
02:23:46.000I said, in 2017, the kind of nationalism and conservatism that I was preaching. didn't have a lot of market share.
02:23:54.000And that's because times were relatively good in 2017.
02:24:02.000This is before tech censorship got out of control.
02:24:06.000But in 2017, I was one of the very few people who was pushing a moderate, but I guess you could call me like moderate far right.
02:24:15.000I was the only one pushing a version of nationalism in America first that's about as far as you can go.
02:24:23.000And over time, obviously, this movement has grown exponentially in three years.
02:24:28.000But I was confident in 2017, even when very few people agreed with me or would associate with me.
02:24:35.000I said, because I know that the trajectory that this country is on, based on what we know about people, what our worldview exclusively predicts, I know that things are going to get worse.
02:25:04.000And I said, If I know that that's going to happen, I can predict how our side will respond to this.
02:25:10.000Regular people will gravitate towards messages which might be unconventional and controversial three years ago, but over time, as things get worse, they'll be more receptive to a worldview which is truly disruptive and challenging to the status quo.
02:25:25.000If the status quo was so bad, people will look towards an ideology that is controversial.
02:25:31.000Rather than controversy being a bad thing and a liability, it will become an asset because people will say the status quo is toxic.
02:25:37.000We need something fresh, something different, something that actually challenges this mess.
02:25:43.000I said, but not only the people, I thought to myself, the political establishment too.
02:25:48.000People begin to jump ship on the GOP and the good times messaging of Charlie Kirk and all their optimism about the free market.
02:25:55.000And I got a really good message today.
02:25:57.000And I cannot give you anything more specific than that.
02:26:01.000A challenge that last week I said, this is insurmountable.
02:28:04.000What is impossible will be made possible through Christ alone.
02:28:08.000And I'm a huge believer in the fact that the reason that we are able to do things that everybody thinks is impossible is because we have the protection of God.
02:28:19.000This is only true insofar as we are doing the right thing.
02:28:23.000We have a special advantage that nobody else has.
02:28:26.000The creator of heaven and earth on our side.
02:28:28.000But that is only true because we are, it seems to be, the only people that care about keeping God's laws and making the world the way that God intended it to.
02:28:40.000That is something really to think about, especially in the context of this Hunter Biden stuff.
02:28:45.000Think about who we're fighting against here on both sides.
02:28:49.000We are fighting against people that are pedophiles, people that kill babies through abortion.
02:28:56.000Their program is to get everybody enslaved to the devil.
02:29:03.000And if you can't enslave them to that consumer culture and to their appetites, then they'll be killed and destroyed.
02:29:11.000That's what we're fighting against in both parties because it's even the Republican Party that wants to continue that degeneracy, but they're just going to slap a different brand on it.
02:29:20.000You know, instead of all this degeneracy for socialism, it's going to be all this degeneracy for capitalism.
02:29:27.000No, we're in favor of pot smoking and sodomy and pornography because of freedom.
02:29:32.000And on the left, they're in favor of that for liberation.
02:32:21.000I said, In your handling of your situation at Kansas State, With the George Floyd tweet, your handling during the Groyper War, I said was top notch.
02:33:05.000Take a look at some of these other streamers that try and they can't get 50 viewers.
02:33:10.000You know, it's not like an easy thing to do.
02:33:13.000And all these guys Patrick, Steve, Jake, Jaden, all of them successful streamers, big audiences.
02:33:21.000And the only way that you can get a decent audience like that is by being engaging, which is not easy.
02:33:27.000You know, the, you know, Like America is practically with Generation Z a graveyard of failed streaming careers.
02:33:35.000How many people do you see on TikTok or Twitter or Instagram trying to become social media famous?
02:33:40.000If everybody could get an average of 300 to 1,200 viewers per night, like people in the America First movement do, Beardson, I don't think I mentioned, they would do that, but not everybody can do that.
02:33:52.000So we have extremely talented people all across.
02:33:55.000The people that suck is everybody else.
02:33:57.000Do you think anybody writing for the Daily Caller and the Washington Examiner?
02:34:01.000And Red Alert Politics and any of these other faggots, do you think that any of them could really do a good live stream?
02:34:42.000We are all, and I think that's the most important thing.
02:34:47.000We all recognize the odds that we face and the struggle that we're all in.
02:34:51.000But what's actually kind of interesting about streaming is that I think it makes people feel like they're not alone.
02:35:02.000It's a comfort, which is bizarre because.
02:35:06.000Like, I'm a streamer, and I don't think it's a given that a political movement would be led by streamers.
02:35:13.000I don't think it's a given that you would have a political movement comprised of streamers, a dozen streamers, and a large audience.
02:35:20.000I don't think it's necessarily that way.
02:35:23.000But I think that with our movement in particular, it has become that way because, and this is like God's plan, the streaming is such a comfort to people because people who are in our situation where they know the relevant facts.
02:35:40.000It's like, wow, the entire elite is conspiring against us.
02:35:44.000Conditions are getting worse every day, and there's little we could do to stop it in the short term.
02:35:50.000And so, the tendency before America first came on the air was for these people to be antisocial, for them to become isolated, for them to spiral into toxic ways of thinking and everything.
02:36:04.000And then the show came along and it created a community.
02:36:07.000And, you know, for people that tune into this show, I feel like my connection with them is a comfort to them.
02:37:32.000I love when people use the clips because sometimes I watch the clips and you know you kind of cringe when you watch like a video of yourself and I'm like, oh, I'm hypercritical.
02:43:49.000I haven't been eating as much candy or ice cream.
02:43:52.000I've been trying to eat relatively healthy.
02:43:54.000It's more expensive, though, because when I would eat unhealthy, I would go to McDonald's and spend $10.
02:44:00.000Now I go to a restaurant and I have a chicken sandwich on shabbat, and it's $25 or $20 with the tip, whatever.
02:44:11.000I go to the Japanese place for the bento box, it's $16, $15, whatever.
02:44:17.000So, it's a little more expensive, but I guess it's worth it.
02:44:20.000It's worth it to pay for a good physique, for health.
02:44:25.000I've been skipping breakfast, been getting myself down to about a lunch and a dinner, and I've been trying to eat a little bit better.
02:44:38.000Don't get me wrong, I still eat a lot of garbage.
02:44:40.000Hey, look, I'm not cooking, okay, because I still eat a lot of trash, but I was eating a lot of trash before.
02:44:46.000It was like all I would eat was pizza and burgers.
02:44:50.000I actually hung out with a mutual friend recently, a mutual friend that I have with Patrick Casey.
02:44:56.000And he told me that when Patrick Casey was in town, when you remember back in August, Jaden and Jake and Patrick and Beardson all came over in Chicago.
02:45:07.000And I had never heard the story before, but this mutual friend, I saw him the other week, he told me that Patrick visited him while he was in Chicago.
02:45:16.000And Patrick told him, I can't eat with Nick anymore.
02:45:43.000You have a little, little indulgence for one week, and then you could go back to boiled chicken and microwaved potato and the workout regimen.
02:45:53.000You could go back to the cold showers and wake up at 3 a.m.
02:45:56.000These people, it's like they have now mixed up night and day.
02:46:00.000They wake up so early, they're waking up at night.
02:46:03.000I wake up at midnight and I take a cold shower and then I work out for eight hours and then I go to work and I dominate in the gym and I dominate at work and then I go home and then I do and then I read and then I train my mind and then I read books and then, you know, give it a rest.
02:47:42.000Front says, playing Minecraft with my buddy before the stream, window open with a cool breeze, and on a Discord call while watching the stream.
02:49:19.000Once you start to bring in corporations and offshore bank accounts and write offs and depreciation and all kinds of different mechanisms, there are so many mechanisms in place.
02:49:31.000And by the way, that's just how the law works.
02:49:34.000But then you have all these specific loopholes for specific companies subsidies, bailouts, everything.
02:49:42.000So the Democratic Party is totally corrupt, just like the Republican Party.
02:49:46.000In the same way that the Republican Party every time talks about tax cuts for the middle class and blah, blah, blah.
02:51:12.000Probably the best line of the night, or one of the best lines of the night.
02:51:16.000Stan Lee says So sad, my roommate comes in talking about the Sasha Giuliani bit, and if I saw it, said yes, and explained why it's front page on Reddit and Twitter.
02:51:28.000Said it has nothing to do with politics, that it's just funny.
02:52:43.000And some of that I will make an allowance for because it's politics.
02:52:47.000But you've got to pivot to a frame that works for you.
02:52:51.000You have to get off the back foot and take your frame and go on the offensive.
02:52:56.000So say what you have to say, undermine the credibility of people that accuse others of racism, quickly debunk it for people that care, and then very quickly you've got to go on the offensive and change the frame.
02:53:11.000You know, get off the subject and go on to talk about, like I said, crime, all that other stuff, which we discussed.
02:53:17.000Saxon says, I wouldn't care if a meteor landed on the kids, 500 kids, parents screwed up, and now the kids are alone.
02:53:24.000Guess we can't have a border for 320 million people.
02:53:27.000Does this work on anyone except women?
02:56:53.000Tangled mess, and she's definitely closer to the Indian end of the spectrum, definitely that southern and western axis, I guess you could call it, or the southern and western pole of the hair spectrum.
02:57:10.000So, I would knock her some points for that.
02:57:13.000I would knock her some points maybe because the lips are very thin.
02:57:18.000She doesn't have those, like, you know, plump lips.
02:57:22.000The nose is good, the eyes add, and by the way, the complexion isn't a total.
02:57:27.000Negative for me because actually, a lighter complexion on dark skin is sort of like just exotic enough.
02:59:53.000Polish American Groypers says Trump ending on stocks and the subsequent economic depression following a Biden victory, I think, is a very good way to end it off.
03:00:21.000If you're a small business owner, if you're unemployed, this now directly affects you.
03:00:27.000And Biden threatening to raise taxes, Biden introducing these new regulations, environmental regulations, financial regulations, that will directly harm a lot of people at a time when it's a very fragile situation.
03:00:51.000It's retirees looking at their 401k, looking at their pension, which almost got annihilated and wiped out with the stock market crash in March.
03:01:02.000Small business owners are thinking about the more lockdowns that are already happening.
03:01:07.000Chicago, they just announced a new curfew that's happening in a lot of cities.
03:01:13.000So small businesses are thinking about that.
03:01:15.000People that are laid off are thinking about that.
03:01:17.000People, I think, now more than ever, Have to vote their economic self interest when it comes to the lockdowns and taxes and even the stock market.
03:01:26.000A lot of like right wing people don't understand this.
03:01:30.000Like dissident right people, they say, oh, must stock market.
03:01:41.000I don't know if, you know, any of these like, because there's a lot of like, frankly, a lot of young people in this movement who like don't have a 401k.
03:01:49.000You know, a lot of them don't have a job.
03:01:57.000When they see their 401k wiped out because the value of the stock market is cut in like a third or in a fourth, something like that in March, that is scary for people.
03:02:07.000You know, their 401k, their pension, that is one reason to care about the stock market.
03:02:12.000But more than that, even like when minimum wage comes up, small business owners, especially now, cannot afford to be forced to pay $15 an hour wages for the kind of work that they'll have to pay for that.
03:02:28.000You know, that will destroy a small business.
03:02:31.000People kind of care about their livelihood and well being.
03:02:34.000That's not the only thing that exists.
03:02:36.000That's not the only kind of well being, but that is a very important and salient form of well being for people, especially at a time like this when it's a fragile economic recovery.
03:02:48.000It was a very strong point to end on because people know Democrats will raise taxes, put in place regulations, do more lockdowns, and people can't afford that right now.
03:03:01.000People cannot afford to pay more in tax.
03:03:03.000People cannot afford to lose their jobs.
03:03:05.000Small businesses can't afford more lockdown, more regulations, higher minimum wage.
03:03:12.000And especially people that are trying to retire cannot afford for the stock market to crash again.
03:03:35.000And people are saying they're better off now after the worst recession in American history under Trump than they were under Obama when the recovery was just beginning.
03:03:46.000The recovery from the 08 recession, right?
03:03:48.000Back in 16, it was on its way, but it was virtually just beginning.
03:04:34.000Simp Exterminator says, Jacinda Ardern, the New Zealand Prime Minister, is a leftist, yet I saw a clip where she said she is stopping all immigration.
03:05:58.000Officer Froggy says, Hey, Nick, I just wanted to say it's my birthday, and this stream on the presidential debate is the best gift of them all.
03:06:05.000Cozy stream with all the Groypers turning 19, and I already feel like an old man.
03:06:09.000Also, you kind of jinxed PewDiePie on the show yesterday.
03:09:11.000Most of your peers are fucking around.
03:09:14.000And that's the difference between who is rich and who is poor.
03:09:17.000That's the difference between who is successful and who has a meaningful life and who wakes up and they're 35 and they've got nothing going for them and it's just working until the weekend and having a beer at the same bar with the same people, chasing tail.
03:12:58.000Talking about race and naming them and everything during the George Floyd riots, and people tune in to Tucker to be like, oh, well, he named cancel culture.
03:13:27.000But it's like some people, they watch the show and they're like, Let's help the guy that is on Fox News.
03:13:32.000Let's not help, you know, amplify the message of the guy that's doing these, the one man band.
03:13:38.000You know, it's like I'm over here, literally the one man band, you know, with the big bass drum and a cymbal on top, and I've got a guitar, right?
03:13:47.000I mean, literally one of those one man band setups, and, you know, and I'm blowing into a little horn, you know, and everything, and I'm like, and I'm really struggling to do my little dance here, and Tucker's got like the, He's got the Philharmonic Orchestra, right?
03:14:03.000He's got the professional band, and everybody's like, you know, let's promote that more.
03:14:10.000I think he's, I'm over here, I'm blowing into a little thing, and I'm playing a drum, and I got a little cymbal, and I'm, you know, whatever.
03:16:26.000Modern Monarchist says, Big shout out to Quantine, a true gentleman and a Jew among Groyper's, which means he has big shekels literally and figuratively.
03:16:36.000Nick's big plans are actually to become the fourth triumvirate of history.
03:16:39.000Instead of Caesar, Crassus, and Pompey, it will be Nick, Patrick, and Jaden.
03:16:43.000America first oligarchy is inevitable and epic.
03:21:51.000I mean, I think Trump basically did that and he won more blacks than Mitt Romney.
03:21:58.000Winston Fujimori says, I made one comment in Assange's chat about a year ago and immediately got banned.
03:22:04.000With that bad bunny person who I am confident has borderline personality disorder or something, as does most of our audience, I made it up to three comments.
03:23:19.000Kevin Burroughs says, I'm not saying go full George Wallace, but anti white literature at our schools and on the HR reading list.
03:23:26.000Republicans have to figure out how to talk about anti white racism or black criminality going forward without fear or hiding behind Balexit.
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