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00:17:52.000Iran and Israel traded fresh threats on Wednesday amid heightened concerns over how and when Tehran might retaliate for an Israeli strike in Syria last week.
00:18:10.000The leadership of Iran has repeatedly vowed to avenge the deadly April 1st strike on the Iranian embassy building in Damascus.
00:22:39.000It's a slow and steady provocation to provoke Iran into attacking Israel so that Israel, with the backing of the United States, can take out Iran's nuclear facilities.
00:23:30.000These are the Iranian nuclear sites and this is what Iran, or rather what Israel, would be bombing.
00:23:40.000And Iran can get, contrary to what most people understand about the Iranian nuclear program, Iran can acquire a nuclear arsenal at any time.
00:23:52.000They have the technology, they have the material,
00:24:13.000How quickly could Iran develop a nuclear arsenal once they commit to building one?
00:24:21.000How long would it take them to break out?
00:24:26.000And so, all of the geopolitics on that question is about that timeline.
00:24:36.000And once Iran commits to building a nuclear program, will the United States and Israel be able to act quickly enough to disable it before they are able to put a warhead on a missile capable of reaching Israel?
00:29:02.000Why is it that before contact with outsiders, Sub-Saharan Africa never devised a written language, never invented the wheel or agriculture, and developed only minimal art?
00:29:18.000If you want to educate yourself on race, read this.
00:32:08.000Can Jews go five seconds without calling people anti-semitic?
00:32:13.000This is why everyone is starting to not like you.
00:32:18.000Because we have... I think white people are collectively discovering that Jews are more annoying about playing the race card than black people.
00:32:55.000And now everyone, I think, is realizing that Jews are exactly the same way.
00:33:00.000Anytime you have anything to say about Jews that isn't glazing, if you're not glazing them, if you're not doing tricks on it, antisemitic filth said what?
00:34:34.000When it comes to the um... This is kind of where my brain is right now.
00:34:38.000When it comes to like the cuck and the Wikipedia stuff and everything um... I think that if I put out enough satirical deadpan comments about sh** that
00:34:50.000People take it seriously, and they retweet it, and they spread it.
00:34:53.000I think at some point, I think the goal is to create, like, an air of... I don't know if I can believe anything I've heard about this guy.
00:34:58.000That's, like, the goal right now, by the way.
00:35:00.000I'm stealing the strategy from Fuentes and TheGroipers, so... Some people are... Some people posted this meme, but it doesn't really make sense.
00:35:16.000This joke usually applies to somebody like saying or doing something either really offensive or really fucking stupid and then people saying like, okay, we're being dumb.
00:35:25.000But I think it's more like, I feel like at this point I can say basically anything about my life and people will believe it regardless of how ridiculous it is.
00:35:31.000So I think it calls into credibility the people that are reporting stuff.
00:38:37.000So it gets so bad that he says, you know, I think I'm just going to...
00:38:43.000I think I'm just going to start making stuff up so that people don't believe anything about me, so that now people don't think I'm an idiot.
00:38:51.000So make sure, I'm calling on you, and I'm calling on the soldiers of America first, when you see these bait clips in the future, because there's going to be bait clips that go around where Destiny says something, and he's obviously joking, but his people are going to pretend like he's being serious to cultivate
00:39:12.000As he said, this perception that no one can believe anything they read about him, it's your obligation to post this clip and like this clip in the replies.
00:39:24.000You have to grab this clip, get the link, post it in the replies, and juice it wherever you see it.
00:39:33.000When it comes to the, um... This is kind of where my brain is right now.
00:39:37.000When it comes to, like, the cuck and the Wikipedia stuff and everything, um...
00:39:43.000I think that if I put out enough satirical deadpan comments about shit that people take it seriously and they retweet it and they spread it, I think at some point, I think the goal is to create like an air of, I don't know if I can believe anything I've heard about this guy.
00:39:58.000That's like the goal right now, by the way.
00:40:00.000I'm stealing the strategy from Fuentes and TheGroipers, so.
00:41:18.000My followers watched his streams for like a few months and they said, wait a second, this guy's a fucking idiot.
00:41:25.000He can't find Israel on a map, he can't recognize Erdogan, doesn't know him from Assad, doesn't know who the president of Israel is, doesn't know who Sheldon Adelson is, doesn't know who Francisco Franco is, doesn't know who Bibi Netanyahu is.
00:41:40.000Can't name half the states, doesn't know Kevin McCarthy, doesn't know Joseph McCarthy, doesn't know a language the Bible was written in, doesn't know what Catholics believe, doesn't know what Jews believe, doesn't know that Arabs weren't in the Levant until the Umayyad dynasty.
00:41:59.000People realize, and it didn't take long before people realize he doesn't know anything.
00:42:30.000When you look in the mirror and you see a fraud, everybody has realized you don't know shit about anything, and they realize you're a cuck.
00:42:39.000Jimbo Zoomer, that's who did this to you.
00:44:01.000First of all, he doesn't know the Golem.
00:44:05.000Which, you know, the thing is about him, I understand that a lot of people might not know what some of these things are, but if you are, like, a politics nerd, you should know this stuff.
00:44:18.000You don't need to know everything, but if you don't know anything, like, that's a problem.
00:45:05.000I mean, this is just speculative, but these things are, you know- It's that a Jewish scientist dude created a golem out of clay, and eventually the golem killed its master.
00:45:13.000Alive for a million years or something like that, like, uh, these- Wait, that sounds awesome!
00:46:56.000The most popular Destiny orbiter scolds fellow DGGers for not taking Nick Fuentes' argument seriously and is frustrated that Nick's framing is becoming mainstream on the right.
00:47:10.000You're saying, and you're clearly admitting, that the Daily Wire is an arm of the Israeli, I guess, media or propaganda machine?
00:47:18.000I was sawing out that, yeah, there were a bunch of people who thought I was really retarded for thinking Nick Fuentes would do anything on this green earth, and that he was never going to be a politically effective person whatsoever, right?
00:47:31.000And now I'm laughing that I'm hearing the exact points from Nick Fuentes that he was making 6 months ago, 12 months ago, 18 months ago, come out of Andrew Schultz's.
00:47:42.000This guy runs the most popular podcast on the internet from what I understand, okay?
00:47:46.000He was like making millions of dollars a month, hand over fist.
00:47:50.000And now I'm hearing Nick's precise talking points come out of the mouth of Andrew Schultz.
00:47:54.000So this is very interesting that I was like very concerned about this to the point that I watched this dude's show.
00:48:00.000I tried to get familiar with his talking points and was like, hey, this guy's like very effective.
00:48:05.000It's very concerning that nobody will talk to him, right?
00:48:07.000The whole concept of idea inoculation.
00:48:11.000You can't just hear somebody who's been practicing in their own little echo chamber this exact whole rant and stuff for years and years and then you let him out and nobody has any idea how to argue against any of the points he's making.
00:48:23.000So now you get retards like Andrew Schultz and PBD who will go and broadcast this all over the internet because it gets clicks, it gets likes.
00:48:29.000Nick's worked on this narrative for years, right?
00:49:11.000The problem with all of this is that Nick did this, and then you had people at the Daily Wire who clearly watched his show, right?
00:49:17.000And they'd wash out all of the anti-Semitic bits, and then they'd serve out exactly what Nick was saying to their audiences, but without the anti-Semitic stuff.
00:49:24.000Like, basically the diet version of Nick's populist rhetoric, right?
00:49:28.000So there's a whole ton of people out there, a whole ton of podcast listeners, internet goers, who are primed to hear this exact kind of reasoning and this exact kind of rhetoric, and then they will go and they will just believe it because it's the exact thing that they've believed in a whole bunch of other places from the Daily Wire, and those people are all good, right?
00:49:57.000It was all downstream of, like, a certain small group of people who were really putting this stuff out, like, effectively, in my opinion, who have a really outsized influence.
00:51:14.000With our beakers, whipping up anti-semitic talking points to distribute them, to go then and distribute to Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Schulz, Joe Rogan.
00:51:44.000In the BBC series The Nazis, a warning from history, an eyewitness account tells of Hitler watching movies.
00:51:51.000If ever a scene showed cruelty to or death of an animal, Hitler would cover his eyes and look away until someone alerted him the scene was over.
00:54:23.000I know that like the way that the map is colored and labeled changes depending on the time period and what you're trying to show.
00:54:36.000But the idea you can't identify the same landmass, you can't identify the same place on the map because it's from another time period doesn't even make any sense.
00:54:45.000He said it was oriented the wrong way.
00:54:49.000That looks like a map of Europe to me.
00:54:51.000I would recognize that if it was in black and white or any color, to be honest.
00:56:39.000It says, Red Scare Girls Dasha and Anna Katchian repeatedly talk about Nick Fuentes on every episode, the last five, saying he's hilarious and speculating on his real views.
00:56:52.000But they won't have me on their podcast because they say I'm too toxic.
00:56:58.000So we'll play this and then we'll get rid of that.
00:57:45.000A really impressive skill of extemporaneous speaking that very few people have.
00:57:49.000Well, unlike Candace Owens, I think he knows that it's, he has a sense of humor, which she does not.
00:57:58.000Yeah, he can sort of laugh at himself.
00:58:00.000But when he talks about Jews, it feels very much like some kind of like received idea meme language where it's like, it feels like almost like he hasn't actually met any Jews and doesn't know what they're really like.
01:00:19.000The ones that weren't great were real pieces of shit.
01:00:23.000So... So they say that I have this meme language and it's a sense of humor, and they're right about that.
01:00:30.000I mean, I think I'm a reasonable person, and I make jokes and things like that, but... But no, I know Jews, and... It comes from an extremely informed position.
01:00:40.000I probably know more Jews than your average person, because I've been in politics for a long time.
01:02:15.000It's not to say that there aren't dishonest people within a race, or skilled liars within a race, but Jews happen to be very good at lying.
01:02:25.000And I think a lot of them just play fast and loose with the truth.
01:02:30.000For them, everything is kind of... Because they have such a legalistic, pedantic religion, I think that's a big part of it.
01:02:39.000Their whole religion is about debating.
01:02:40.000Their whole religion is about arguing with each other for millennia.
01:02:46.000For those that don't know, the basis of the Jewish religion is the law.
01:02:52.000It used to be the temple and the sacrifice, but after the temple was destroyed, it became the law.
01:03:00.000And they codified all of the Jewish commandments shortly after the destruction of the temple, and then they rigorously debated those commandments.
01:03:11.000That's the Talmud, is the disputations between the rabbis on the application and interpretation of the 613 commandments in the Mishnah, which were extracted from the Torah.
01:03:30.000They live for millennia in these tyrannical, rabbinical communities where the rabbis tightly controlled Jewish life in these European ghettos.
01:03:41.000And those that ruled, these rabbis, were just fierce, high verbal IQ, legal minds debating and debating.
01:03:49.000And we'll get into some of this stuff.
01:06:23.000So, in case you missed it, he says that on the Sabbath, Jews are not allowed to cook.
01:06:30.000So, if he were to go to his coffee maker and plug it in with electricity and have the coffee maker cook the coffee, cook, prepare the coffee by pressing the water with electricity, filtering it through the coffee,
01:06:48.000Well, that would be against Jewish law.
01:06:56.000So what they do instead is they heat the water before the Sabbath, they pump the water by hand into a cup, and then they pour the hot water from that cup into coffee grounds.
01:07:12.000And because there's this intermed... One, because they don't plug it in, and because there's this intermediary step of pouring the water first and then pouring it on the coffee in a second, separate motion, that no longer constitutes cooking.
01:08:41.000But if he puts the coffee cup on the counter beside it, pumps the water into a separate glass, and pours it from the separate glass into the coffee, that's not cooking.
01:08:53.000And he thinks that God can't tell the difference?
01:08:57.000He thinks that God cares whether you put it in one glass first?
01:09:01.000And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
01:09:03.000They wash their hands using a cup that has two handles.
01:09:13.000This is about the prohibition of using a light switch.
01:09:16.000They can't flip a light switch because that constitutes work.
01:09:21.000So instead, they designed a lamp where the light is always on and they can just manipulate a covering on the lamp to either conceal all the light or release some of it.
01:09:33.000Orthodox Jews are not allowed to use electricity on Shabbos.
01:09:37.000This means that we cannot turn on and off lights.
01:09:41.000But we can benefit if the light is already on.
01:09:44.000Kosher Innovations created this Shabbos lamp.
01:10:11.000They named it 360 because unlike this Shabbos lamp that only gives off light in one direction, this new lamp gives off light in any direction.
01:10:22.000They also have a medium and low setting.
01:10:26.000And to make sure that the lamp doesn't slide around on your countertop, there's a little tab that you pull off and it sticks and stays in place.
01:11:10.000It's a completely convoluted category to say, well, work is to press the button which calls the current or connects the circuit and allows the light to go on versus putting a covering on and off of an already connected circuit, already connected light.
01:11:31.000That's a completely convoluted category that one would constitute work and one doesn't.
01:11:37.000Or one would constitute something that is permitted by God's law and one isn't.
01:11:45.000God revealed himself to man so that he could tell man, don't turn the lights on on Saturday.
01:12:07.000The Talmud, over 2,000 years, is rabbis going back and forth with these finite 613 commandments and finding ways to apply them.
01:12:19.000And finding ways to interpret them such as these.
01:12:25.000And there's a number of other Jewish traditions like Midrash, where they will read a certain contemporary meaning into a Bible story to get out of some theological jams.
01:13:27.000You know, I don't hate people for who they are.
01:13:29.000I have a lot of Jewish friends, and you know, many of the Jewish friends I know are very intelligent, and they're very funny, and they're very loyal, they're very charismatic.
01:13:40.000You know, so some of the people that are Jews are some of my favorite people.
01:13:44.000Just like, you know, I know some black people that are my favorite people.
01:13:48.000I know some Slavic people that are my favorite people.
01:16:23.000You're not on my bad side, but your content is shit.
01:16:41.000TBH they should do us all a favor and ban me again, haha Sardonic poopy poop content All right, do I have another attack here yet Not yet Um
01:17:44.000I'll play the clip and then we'll go through it.
01:17:48.000This is an unwinnable position, defending America's support for Israel, because, you know, they'll go down the list and they'll say things like, you know, well, they're our closest ally, you know, they're our special friend in the Middle East.
01:18:22.000They're the only country in the world that they don't have to spend all the military aid that they receive from us on our military hardware.
01:18:30.000They get, I think it's 25% or more they get to spend of our aid on their own defense industry.
01:18:35.000It's why they have very sophisticated defense industry.
01:19:48.000So he's an American billionaire, makes his money in Macau actually, casino magnet, and there's some connections there between China and Israel.
01:19:55.000But anyway, he makes his money here in America and uses all of his clout and money to finance the Republican Party becoming the number one pro-Israel party ever.
01:20:05.000He leads the donor list of individual donors for Republicans every cycle.
01:21:14.000But anyway, they posted it on their Instagram, their TikTok the other day.
01:21:20.000The reason why we bend over backwards for Israel is because they control our system through bribery, espionage, corruption.
01:21:26.000Nick Fuentes, an American political commentator, says that despite this perceived influence, Israel has nothing beneficial to offer the United States.
01:21:38.000Ben Lorberts' Today Middle East Monitor, a prominent London-based outlet with over 1.8 million followers, published a clip of white Christian nationalist Nick Fuentes advancing a distorted view.
01:21:50.000And for Nick, at least, anti-Semitic of the U.S.-Israel relationship.
01:21:55.000Fuentes has engaged in Holocaust revisionism, called Hitler cool, demanded Catholic Taliban rule in America, total Aryan victory, execution of perfidious Jews, yet Middle East Monitor simply calls him a political commentator.
01:22:10.000In the clip, Fuentes claims a wealthy and powerful Israel lobby controls U.S.
01:22:14.000foreign policy to support Israel against the U.S.'
01:25:01.000Throughout Adelson's massive orbit, tributes poured in.
01:25:05.000We have lost one of the most consequential figures in American Jewish history.
01:25:09.000An American patriot, a dedicated defender of Israel, an extraordinary philanthropist, says Republican Jewish Coalition executive Matt Brooks.
01:25:17.000Norm Coleman, a strong defender of Israel, Jewish life, and American opportunity and freedom, has departed the Jewish community.
01:25:31.000This talks about how he became a billionaire.
01:25:39.000As his wealth grew, Adelson became a kingmaker both at home and in Israel.
01:25:42.000By the end of his life, Adelson had a direct line to Trump and Netanyahu.
01:25:47.000During the last three White House races, the Adelson family was the single largest political donor in the United States.
01:25:53.000During the last three White House races, 2020, 2016, 2012,
01:26:00.000He was the largest single political donor in the whole country.
01:26:03.000He stayed on the sidelines of the 2016 primary.
01:26:07.000But once Trump seemed the inevitable nominee, Adelson engaged with the campaign and built a solid rapport with the future president.
01:26:15.000He was also the single largest donor to Trump's inauguration committee.
01:26:20.000When Trump and his team got into trouble, he donated to a legal defense fund set up for Trump aides caught up in the Mueller probe.
01:26:31.000By the time 2020 arrived, Adelson was giving freely.
01:26:34.000Last year, the Adelsons gave $430 million to conservative groups, including $90 million to a pro-Trump super PAC.
01:26:46.000Adelson's largesse bought him access and influence, but also drew intense scrutiny that may have led him to become a media mogul himself.
01:26:55.000Adelson's used a shadow corporation to buy the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
01:26:59.000The Adelson family also owns newspapers in Israel, where thousands of young Jewish young people visit every year through Adelson-supported 10-day Birthright Israel trips.
01:27:11.000Forbes estimates he spent more than $1 billion funding such projects over the course of his lifetime.
01:27:52.000After Mr. Trump's election, Adelson gave $5 million to the committee organizing the inauguration.
01:27:58.000It was the largest single contribution to any president's inaugural ever.
01:28:02.000And on the day of the swearing-in ceremony on January 17, Adelson and his wife sat along the aisle a few rows back as Mr. Trump took the oath of office.
01:28:11.000Under the Trump administration, the Adelsons achieved at least one of their long-held goals, the relocation of the embassy.
01:28:27.000In addition to Malibu, Adelson had homes in Vegas, Boston, Tel Aviv.
01:28:31.000He flew to Israel six to eight times a year on his own jetliners.
01:28:35.000A staunch Zionist, he even considered settling there.
01:28:37.000He fell in love with the country, an associate told the Times.
01:28:43.000He married Miriam Farbstein Ochshorn, an Israeli physician.
01:28:51.000Mr. Adelson and his wife contributed hundreds of millions to medical research, education, and other philanthropies in America and Israel.
01:28:58.000Mr. Adelson first visited Israel in 1988 wearing the shoes of his father, a Lithuanian-born Jew who never made the trip.
01:29:09.000I'm looking for just like a good paragraph that talks about it from one of these big sources.
01:29:16.000Because there was one, I forget which one, but it had a really good, maybe it was The Economist.
01:29:32.000Mr. Trump said Adelson had tirelessly advocated for the relocation of the embassy, the recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the Golan, and pursuit of peace between Israel and its neighbors.
01:29:50.000And then we'll pull up the DeSantis article.
01:30:09.000Adelson will be buried in Israel where evidence of his philanthropy and unapologetic advocacy for the Jewish state seems ubiquitous.
01:30:18.000At Yad Vashem, Israel's national memorial to the Holocaust.
01:30:22.000In a stream of Jewish young people on heritage trips to Israel as part of the popular birthright program atop a building at the Adelson School of Entrepreneurship at a college north of Tel Aviv.
01:30:32.000Adelson also underwrote a free daily newspaper that served as an unofficial mouthpiece for Netanyahu.
01:30:39.000A Haaretz columnist says that level of political funding gave him unprecedented access and influence over Israeli politics.
01:30:49.000Netanyahu in one of a string of effusive eulogies by Israel leaders called Adelson an incredible champion of the Jewish people, the Jewish state, and the America-Israel alliance.
01:31:23.000If you look at DeSantis, this was another claim I made.
01:31:27.000So he announced in May 2023, this is from April 2023, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis dined with Miriam Adelson, former President Trump's top financial backer and other major donors, in Jerusalem on Wednesday.
01:31:42.000Politico reported in October 2022 that Adelson, widow to the late billionaire Sheldon Adelson, told several possible candidates she plans to stay neutral.
01:31:53.000DeSantis arrived in Israel on Wednesday as part of a four-leg trip that could help the presidential candidate boost his foreign policy credentials.
01:32:01.000DeSantis met with Israeli President Isaac Herzog before attending a dinner at the Museum of Tolerance.
01:32:09.000The dinner was hosted by Larry Mizzle, a Denver-based business executive philanthropist.
01:32:14.000He was the finance chairman for the Trump campaign in Colorado.
01:33:15.000DeSantis presented the Trump administration's decision to move the embassy as his own achievement, saying he worked to cajole the former president to make the move.
01:34:58.000Well, that's... it's not the whole story.
01:35:02.000That they give politicians hundreds of millions of dollars because leftists say that there's the settler-colonial ethos that they have in common.
01:35:15.000So if America and Israel have a settler-colonial ethos, which they share, then why is it that the United States has condemned Israeli settlements in the West Bank since 1967?
01:35:37.000Secretary of Defense at the end of World War II went against Harry Truman when he recognized the State of Israel after they declared independence?
01:35:48.000Why would these things be the case if it was about a subtler colonial ethos?
01:36:09.000Israel isn't even a colony in the properly understood sense.
01:36:16.000When you consider European colonialism, you had a mother country that sent settlers out to resource-rich
01:36:26.000relatively uninhabited islands or continents and they set up a viceroy government system or in the case of the British they sent a huge settler population for the purpose of extracting the resources for the mother country.
01:36:46.000Does Senegal have a significant French population?
01:37:06.000What would Israel's mother country be?
01:37:10.000Now some would say America or the United Kingdom, but of course Jews came to Israel from all over the world and the Jews were a stateless people.
01:37:17.000So no, Israel is not settled or colonial in the same way that the United States is, or that the United Kingdom was, or that France was.
01:38:44.000Sheldon Adelson gave Donald Trump $100 million in every cycle that he was running for the presidency.
01:38:52.000Sheldon Adelson gave Trump $5 million for his inaugural committee.
01:38:57.000Sheldon Adelson gave millions of dollars to Trump's legal fund to help his allies in the Mueller Russia probe.
01:39:05.000Trump moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
01:39:11.000Audience, class, did Donald Trump move the embassy in Israel because Sheldon Adelson, whose lifelong mission was to move the embassy, who gave Trump hundreds of millions of dollars for various projects,
01:39:27.000Did Trump do it because he was bribed, effectively?
01:39:31.000Or did Trump do it because he had a deep-seated affinity for Israel based on a settler-colonial ethos which leftists believe in, which leftists say is the case?
01:40:22.000Does anybody know about James Forrestal?
01:41:03.000James Forrestal was the Secretary of Defense under Harry Truman in 1947.
01:41:17.000During private cabinet meetings with Truman in 1946 and 1947, Forrestal argued against partition of Palestine on the grounds that it would infuriate Arab countries who supplied oil needed for the U.S.
01:41:34.000Instead, Forrestal favored a federalization plan for Palestine.
01:41:39.000In other words, rather than split the land into an Israeli state and a Jewish state, he says, let's create a federated one state.
01:41:48.000Because if we give the Israelis a state, if we give the Jews their own state in Palestine, it's going to piss off the Arabs, who are our allies, and they supply our oil.
01:42:00.000Which is a pretty recurring theme over the past 70 years, wouldn't you say?
01:42:22.000It is against America's interest for Israel to be created because if we back the creation of the state, the Arabs who supply the oil, which they extract from the Persian Gulf, would not be happy.
01:43:08.000Which is what we had been dependent on until basically fracking.
01:43:14.000So why then would we support Israel contra the Arabs and other Muslim states in and around the Persian Gulf, which supply significant percentage of the world's oil and our oil?
01:43:36.000Outside the White House, response to Truman's continued silence on the issue was immediate.
01:43:40.000Truman received threats to cut off campaign contributions from wealthy donors as well as hate mail, including a letter accusing him of preferring fascist and Arab elements to the democracy-loving Jewish people of Palestine.
01:43:56.000When Harry Truman said, I'm not going to support the creation of Israel, the donors said, we're not giving you money, and the Jews said, you support Arab fascism, you support Hamas.
01:44:58.000The Biden administration is effectively preparing to make aid to Israel contingent on unspecified changes to Israeli policy.
01:45:05.000In other words, they're going to hold the aid back if Israel invades Rafah, which would upset the Arabs and Iran.
01:45:13.000Which means that Israel can do little or nothing to appease the White House.
01:45:16.000Hamas is in control of the Biden administration.
01:45:20.000The Islamofascist Arab Hamas militant group is in control of the Biden government because he won't give Israel the aid that they need.
01:45:30.000This is the Secretary of Defense in 1947.
01:45:34.000Truman received threats to cut off campaign contributions from wealthy donors, hate mail, accusing him of preferring a fascist Arab element to the democracy-loving Jewish people of Palestine.
01:45:47.000But remember, the real reason America supports Israel is because of a vision of Western civilizational dominance, which is shared.
01:45:58.000Sounds like it's only coming from the Jews.
01:46:00.000Sounds like it's coming from Leo Strauss and the other Jews.
01:46:05.000In other words, don't give Israel recognition just because the Jews are canceling you.
01:46:09.000Just because the donors are cutting off the money and there's political pressure coming from the Zionists to recognize Israel.
01:46:35.000Or rather, don't do it because of America's national interest.
01:46:40.000In his only known public comment on the issue, Forrestal stated to J. Howard McGrath from Rhode Island,
01:46:54.000Forrestal's statement soon earned him the active enmity of some congressmen and supporters of Israel.
01:47:00.000He was also an early target of the muckraking columnist and broadcaster Drew Pearson, an opponent of foreign policies hostile to the Soviet Union, who began to regularly call for Forrestal's removal after Truman named him Secretary of Defense.
01:47:16.000Pearson told his own protege, Jack Anderson, that he believed Forrestal was the most dangerous man in America and claimed if he was not removed, it would cause another world war.
01:47:25.000Upon taking office as Secretary of Defense, Forrestal was surprised to learn that the administration did not budget for defense needs based on military threats.
01:47:47.000And then what happens two years later?
01:47:55.000Exhausted from overwork, he entered psychiatric treatment.
01:48:01.000He was handpicked by the Navy Surgeon General.
01:48:05.000According to Raines, we considered electroshock therapy but thought it better to postpone it another 90 days.
01:48:11.000Although Forrestal told associates he had decided to resign, he was shattered when Truman asked for his resignation.
01:48:18.000His resignation was tendered on March 28, 1949, and his condition steadily deteriorated.
01:48:23.000On the day of Forrestal's resignation from office, he was reported to have gone into a daze and was flown on a Navy airplane to the estate of Undersecretary of State Robert Lovett in Florida.
01:48:39.000He was diagnosed with severe depression, seen in operational fatigue during the war.
01:48:44.000He was checked into the NNMC five days later.
01:48:47.000The decision to house him on the 16th floor was justified in the same way.
01:48:51.000His condition was announced as nervous and physical exhaustion, diagnosed as depression, reactive depression.
01:54:59.000Okay, so this now finally, what this whole stream is supposed to be about, Tucker versus this, or with this Catholic priest against Israel.
01:56:44.000How does the government of Israel treat Christians?
01:56:46.000The timing is crazy because Candace Owens is going out there and instigating this, like, holy war.
01:56:52.000Saying Christ is king, calling these rabbis filth, saying Clavin declared war on Christians, and now Tucker does a show saying the government of Israel treats Christians badly.
01:57:03.000And the West Christian leaders don't seem interested.
01:57:36.000That was an effect of our foreign policy, but it was almost never noted in the United States and almost never, ever even mentioned by Christian clergy in this country, many of whom supported that war and that occupation.
01:58:15.000What about the entire region in the Middle East where, of course, there's very intense fighting going on?
01:58:18.000Many Christian churches in the United States, particularly evangelical churches, support that.
01:58:22.000But there is virtually never a word about the Christians who live there, the ancient Christian community in Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel proper.
01:58:29.000So, because no one has said a word, there has been great suffering among the Christian population in that region.
01:58:34.000In October, a Greek Orthodox church in the Gaza Strip was hit by an airstrike.
01:58:38.000At least 17 people were killed that day.
01:58:40.000Again, that was hardly the first time that fighting in that region killed Christians.
01:58:42.000You'll remember the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem almost 20 years ago, where a clergyman was killed in the church with American weapons, and Christian clergy in our country said nothing.
01:58:50.000And you may be asking yourself, well, wait a second, if Christian leaders won't stand up for the lives of Christians, why have them in the first place?
01:58:56.000So you would think that in Congress, where there are many self-professed Christians, somebody might be piping up on behalf of their brethren in the Holy Land, but no.
01:59:04.000For example, at a town hall event last month, Michigan Congressman Tim Walbert, a former evangelical pastor, said he would like to see the region treated like Hiroshima was treated.
01:59:21.000Instead of 80% of our funding for Ukraine being used for humanitarian purposes, it should be 80% or 100% for the life of our Russian forces.
02:01:03.000We are a small community, but we're part of the Palestinian people, and as such, anything that happens to Palestinians happens to us.
02:01:09.000And we are probably disproportionately affected by all of this because of our small numbers as a religious community.
02:01:15.000Anything that happens impacts us severely.
02:01:17.000Case in point, what's happening in Gaza right now, where there are anything between 800 to 900 Palestinian Christians, and any impact on that community, any death in that community, will have a long-lasting effect.
02:01:29.000So what sort of support have you had from the Christians in the U.S.
02:01:33.000And just to frame this, and of course people know this already, but the United States government is paying for a lot of these military operations, and this is a majority Christian country.
02:01:55.000And no, I mean, on the opposite, we continue to be horrified by what we hear from Congress, with, of course, some exceptions.
02:02:00.000There are some on the democratic side.
02:02:02.000Of course, Rashida Tlaib comes from a Palestinian heritage.
02:02:04.000But when you look at the so-called religious right, we receive no sympathy whatsoever.
02:02:10.000Sometimes we just plead to be heard and to have our perspective taken seriously.
02:02:15.000And one of the things I'm often struck with, whether when I speak to diplomats, politicians, congress staff, or even pastors and influential pastors, is how little they know about the reality on the ground.
02:02:24.000And their knowledge of the situation here seems to be very, very shallow.
02:02:28.000Yet they hold very strong opinions, and oftentimes these opinions are shaped by political parties' position, the United States' position, and not really based on, you know, an urban opinion that's based on facts, on being here, visiting, talking, investigating, and knowing the facts.
02:02:45.000To me, the problem with all of that is it comes across with very strong opinions and decisions that impact our lives.
02:02:51.000Many times I wish to tell not just the congressmen, but the pastors themselves who support them.
02:02:55.000Do you know that your lobbying, your positions, even your sermons have direct consequences on our lives?
02:03:01.000Back in this war, there was pastors who openly called, for example, to turn Gaza into a parking lot.
02:03:06.000Now, let's remember, there are not just, you know, the many, many innocent people, the majority of, you know, Gaza people, civilians, innocent children, but also there are our siblings in Christ.
02:03:14.000We have relatives and friends in Gaza, and here you have a pastor, with influence, calling for the total destruction of Gaza.
02:03:20.000And you definitely, you know, you heard in the beginning the segment from Congressman Warburg, who is previously a pastor, went to prestigious evangelical institutes, and it makes us wonder, you know,
02:03:30.000This obsession with love and with war, I mean, this obsession with war and violence, it's the antithesis of everything that Jesus taught.
02:03:36.000And at the same time, it again makes us wonder, do you realize how damaging that is for us Christians living not just in Palestine, but in the Middle East?
02:03:43.000Damaging in the sense of real impact on our lives, but also damaging in terms of our credibility in front of our peers here in the Middle East.
02:03:51.000So we've always had a very serious problem when it comes to American foreign policy and the religious right to support that foreign policy when it comes to Palestine and Israel.
02:03:59.000So you have people in the United States, self-professed Christians, who are sending money to oppress Christians in the Middle East.
02:04:06.000That's the sad irony of all of this, is that a lot of the money that comes from churches, even before the war, goes not just to the Israeli military, but to the building of settlements.
02:04:14.000Many of these settlements are built on land confiscated from Palestinians, and in many cases from Palestinian Christian families.
02:04:19.000So I hope you understand again how difficult this is for us because this is political and financial support from our siblings in Christ rather than that support helping us or even helping humanitarian causes or peace causes or, you know, initiatives to bring Palestinians and Israelis together.
02:04:33.000It's supporting initiatives that are causing our lives as a Christian community more and more difficult and causing many of us to leave because it seems that there is no future for us in this land.
02:04:55.000Pakar, you mentioned something important about the war in Iraq, and that war literally emptied half of the Christian population there.
02:05:01.000You know that Christian leaders pleaded with the American administration not to do that war, and not to engage in it.
02:05:04.000And because we realized, they realized that it's gonna have some serious consequences, not just on the Christian presence, but on the region as a whole.
02:05:11.000And never, I think, did they anticipate that it will have this severe impact on the Christian presence in the Middle East.
02:05:16.000So again, I wish these leaders realize how damaging their position, their lobbying, their money is,
02:05:24.000I'm gonna butt in here really quickly and then I'm gonna resume the video.
02:05:48.000Everything changed just a few weeks ago when Biden came out there and officially said that we are trying to restrain Israel's action in Rafah specifically and in Gaza.
02:06:06.000And it almost feels like Tucker and Alex Jones and Candace Owens, it almost feels like this opposition to Israel is an instrument of statecraft.
02:06:17.000It almost feels like Israel was greenlit, basically, a few weeks ago.
02:06:24.000Because it all happened at the same time.
02:06:26.000The Candace Owens thing, the Alex Jones thing, the Tucker thing, it all coincided at the same time that Biden started openly criticizing Israel.
02:06:38.000So it almost seems like Israel was greenlit and now this right-wing opposition to Israel is like a form of soft power.
02:06:46.000It's like a form of soft power political pressure, an instrument of statecraft to begin to turn public opinion against Israel.
02:07:21.000Candace Owens, her husband, is this farmer guy, George Farmer, something like that.
02:07:28.000And his dad is very influential in British society.
02:07:32.000Now again, maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist, but you do notice those connections, and they all went hard against Israel at the same time that the Biden administration did.
02:07:42.000So what I'm saying is that almost seems like an intelligence-backed play to resist Israel a little bit because they're
02:07:54.000They're obviously pissing America off with how they're prosecuting this war.
02:07:59.000It is a theology of Christian Zionism that teaches, for example, that Christians must support Israel because the Bible teaches that.
02:08:06.000And oftentimes that is part of a larger theology of the end times in which they view the presence of Jews in the land as preparing for the second coming of Christ.
02:08:16.000They see it as a fulfillment of prophecy, not realizing again what that means on the ground.
02:08:21.000I always say it's as if the land was empty to them.
02:08:24.000They are excited about certain events without understanding the consequences of these events on real lives.
02:08:29.000The irony is that many of these positions actually believe, and many evangelical leaders believe, that at the end times and after Jews are gathered in Palestine, two-thirds of them will be massacred, and only for the other third to convert to Christianity, and somehow they consider that
02:08:43.000Don't get me wrong, I am for Christians and Jews just like I'm for all religions coming together, understanding one another.
02:08:48.000But there's something very problematic when we make a certain religious group as an object in our theology and even eschatology and relate to them accordingly, at the end without really understanding what is happening on the ground, without understanding even the complexity of Israel as a state, how secular it is, but even
02:09:05.000How much it is oppressing Palestinians, breaking the international law, committing sometimes, you know, human rights abusing, documented against Palestinians, including Palestinian Christians.
02:09:15.000To me, Christians should be for peace.
02:09:16.000And again, I wish you were investing all of this energy and money in initiatives that bring peace.
02:09:23.000Not continuing to support Israel unconditionally without holding them accountable, which is in my opinion what draws us to this mess right now with a catastrophe of thousands of Palestinians killed and October 7 and all of that.
02:09:33.000It's all of these policies and we continue to say that the church has been part of the problem.
02:09:38.000And it's one of my desires to see the church part of the solution when it comes to Palestine and Israel.
02:09:43.000Whether in this war or before, it was confirmed to me that the church is part of the problem.
02:09:46.000It'd be pretty easy for Republicans in the U.S.
02:09:48.000Congress to say, we support the government of Israel.
02:09:50.000But if you touch a single Christian, harm a single church, prevent any Christian from practicing his religion, you're done.
02:09:55.000Not a single dollar will come from the U.S.
02:10:36.000And it's interesting because the pastor is going further than he is.
02:10:38.000The pastor said that American foreign policy supported by Zionist Christians and Zionist Jews is causing, basically, a genocide against Christians in the Middle East.
02:10:49.000It did in Iraq, and it did in Syria, that is what is happening right now in Gaza.
02:10:55.000And Tucker came back and said, well, we can say that we support Israel, just don't hurt the Christians.
02:11:02.000And it's interesting because that's the same line that Mike Cernovich has.
02:11:07.000If you've been following Mike Cernovich, he has been saying repeatedly over the course of this campaign, a specific line, he's been saying, why is nobody talking about the Azeri campaign against Armenia?
02:11:20.000Armenia is the oldest Christian country in the world.
02:11:23.000Azerbaijan just wrested Nagorno-Karabakh from them recently, and now Azerbaijan is preparing to invade and take even more territory.
02:11:31.000And Cernovich said, no one is talking about how Israel supports Azerbaijan, and no one is talking about the Christians.
02:11:39.000And when I talked to Jeremy Boring at Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring said, I can't think of a single person criticizing Israel who is not also an anti-Semite.
02:11:53.000What you're saying is that you cannot criticize Israel.
02:11:58.000All criticism of Israel is anti-semitic, according to you.
02:12:01.000And Boring said, basically, yes, I can't think of a single person criticizing Israel who's not anti-semitic as well.
02:12:10.000And we pressed him on that and eventually said, oh, I can think of one, Mike Cernovich.
02:12:15.000Mike Cernovich, who's tight with Alan Dershowitz.
02:12:20.000Okay, Mike Cernovich, who's tight with the ZOA, and Alan Dershowitz.
02:12:26.000So, in other words, Cernovich is tight with Dershowitz, tight with the ZOA, Jeremy Boring says he's a kosher version of criticism of Israel, and his line is, I don't have anything to say about Israel, I just have a problem with Christians being killed.
02:12:42.000Tucker has his pastor on, and the pastor says, hey, these guys are murdering people, they're warmongering, that's the opposite of Christianity, they're causing a genocide of Christians, and Christian Zionists support it, American foreign policy is facilitating it, and Tucker says, well, maybe we could support Israel, but just don't kill the Christians.
02:13:00.000It seems like a tenuous, safe way of criticizing Israel that could always be revoked.
02:13:08.000Because if you only say, I don't like when Israel kills Christians,
02:13:13.000Then the criticism is somewhat conditional then.
02:13:16.000If Israel weren't killing Christians, would it be okay that they're in Gaza murdering people and we're paying for it and trying to provoke a war?
02:13:24.000Would it be okay that they've penetrated and infiltrated our society?
02:14:06.000Many of them are descendants of the 1948 crisis, the NACBEL.
02:14:09.000So many of them are descendants of refugees.
02:14:10.000So they thought, we don't want to go through the same again.
02:14:12.000One of them told me, if I'm going to die, I'd rather die in the church.
02:14:15.000They thought the church was safe, but the church was not.
02:14:17.000So I think 10 days after the war or so, the Orthodox Church was hit or was impacted by an Israeli missile and 18 people were killed, including my children, Palestinian Christians, my Palestinian Christian children, 18 altogether, as I said, including relatives of church members who were devastated by the impact.
02:14:35.000We were all devastated by that because honestly, we thought the church was safe.
02:14:39.000And to be clear, it's a building in the church compound that they were taking refuge in.
02:15:49.000That's our question, because they were in the middle of the church.
02:15:52.000And to add to all of this already tragic situation, those people in Gaza we talked to, almost all of them told us that their homes have already been destroyed by the bombing, by the Israeli bombings.
02:16:01.000So now, if they survive this war, and it's a big if, we hope they do,
02:16:23.000Many of them died for lack of medical care.
02:16:26.000So in Gaza right now, if you get sick, chances are very high you can survive it because there is no medicine, no medical care, especially among the elderly.
02:16:33.000And so around four or five of our Palestinian Christian community inside the church died because of sickness.
02:16:38.000Most likely because there is no medical attention or medicine whatsoever.
02:17:02.000Since 2007, it's collective punishment against all Palestinians.
02:17:05.000I think this is one of the misconceptions that Israel favors Christians against Muslims.
02:17:10.000No, Israel looks at us as Palestinians.
02:17:13.000And I want to draw attention to, you know, even two years ago in the West Bank, when Palestinian Christian journalist Shireen Abu Atla, who's also an American citizen,
02:17:20.000was shot dead by Israeli forces and no one was held accountable.
02:17:24.000So Palestinian Christians suffer from everything under this brutal occupation, whether in Gaza, which is more difficult than here in the West Bank.
02:17:30.000But even here at the West Bank, we go through everything from land confiscation to the restrictions.
02:17:35.000And so that Christian community in Gaza right now is stuck inside.
02:17:41.000No one can leave Gaza right now unless, you know, you have some sort of arrangement with the Egyptian government in Rafah.
02:17:46.000But as I said, the majority of Christians have decided to stay in the city of Gaza.
02:17:50.000So this goes back to the fragmentation I mentioned.
02:17:52.000Remember I said we have relatives of our church members in Gaza?
02:17:55.000Well, they haven't seen each other for a while now because you need a permit from the Israeli military, even as a Christian, to travel from one place to the other.
02:18:01.000Becker, we're talking to you from Bethlehem, and Jerusalem is literally 15 minutes away from here.
02:18:05.000I can walk to Jerusalem in 30 minutes.
02:18:07.000I can be at the old city of Jerusalem in probably 40 minutes walk.
02:18:22.000As a minister, it's just hard to believe we would send any money to a government that would do something like that to Christians.
02:18:26.000So let me just ask, having been to Bethlehem, I was surprised
02:18:30.000By how hard it was to get there, and surprised, honestly, by how shabby it was.
02:18:33.000And I was surprised because I think millions of Christian pilgrims from the West go there every year because, of course, that's the birthplace of Christ, and the Church of the Nativity is there.
02:18:40.000So why isn't Bethlehem the recipient of aid from Christian groups in the West?
02:18:59.000We can flourish as a community, not just from tourism and obviously the pilgrimage.
02:19:05.000The Palestinian people are very creative, very, you know, talented.
02:19:09.000We can do much if we have the opportunity to flourish as a community.
02:19:13.000But it is something important because we as Palestinian Christians, I think, rely too much on tourism and on welcoming pilgrimage.
02:19:19.000Before COVID, we had record numbers of pilgrims staying in Bethlehem.
02:19:22.000The economy was, you know, especially in Bethlehem, was really going up, but then COVID hit us, and now this war hit us, and I'm not sure, you know, it's going to be very easy for us to survive.
02:19:33.000And when it comes to support, not just I wish to reach the point where we don't need support because Bethlehem is open to the world, I want to emphasize that the biggest support right now that we're asking for is not financial, but on
02:19:45.000political advocacy for peace and for a solution, whether it be a two-state solution or any other solution.
02:19:49.000We will not survive as a Christian community if the situation of Palestinians in general is not solved.
02:19:55.000And since the creation of Israel, we've been under the occupation, under different phases of that occupation.
02:20:01.000And the current status quo, as the war has proven, is not sustainable at all.
02:20:08.000I meet with church leaders all the time, and I've always said, the current status quo that Israel has created, a status quo, by the way, that many human rights organizations have described using the word apartheid, is not sustainable.
02:20:17.000It's going to lead to violence, ultimately.
02:20:22.000I thought it's going to be as deadly and violent as we're witnessing right now.
02:20:25.000And my fear is that if we don't do anything about the West Bank, my biggest nightmare is that something similar will happen in the West Bank.
02:20:30.000So what we're calling for is reasonable, fair-minded Christian leaders.
02:20:36.000who understand the reality on the ground and are able to lobby for a just peace in this land where Palestinians and Israelis live together.
02:20:43.000Right now, as I said, I look at the church and I see it only as part of the problem advocating for one side on account of the other.
02:20:47.000Of course, there are many who understand and who visit, but by and large, look at the bigger picture in terms of political lobbying, in terms of financial support.
02:20:56.000I don't think it's helping us as Palestinian Christians.
02:21:01.000It's not about one political party or the other.
02:21:03.000I remember even during the Trump administration, we pleaded as a Christian community.
02:21:07.000We pleaded that moving the embassy doesn't help.
02:21:11.000We pleaded that a peace treaty with other Arab countries, as much as I want to see peace, if you don't start with the Palestinians, it's not going to help.
02:21:17.000But again, it seems our perspective is never taken seriously.
02:21:19.000And look, now we're paying the results of years and years and years of American foreign policy to support Israel without really putting pressure to end occupation and establish
02:21:29.000The official position of America, a two-state solution.
02:21:32.000So this is the biggest thing we're asking for.
02:21:34.000If you want us to start, to stay here, if you want to see the Palestinian Christian community remain in the land, continue the Christian witness in the place where it all started.
02:22:35.000And so if you are a Jewish person and you convert to Christianity, you will go through many legal challenges to recognize your marriage certificate, to recognize a lot of your rights, because again, evangelical Christianity is not officially recognized as a denomination in the state of Israel.
02:22:53.000Many Israeli politicians try to pass laws that prevent Christians from sharing their faith.
02:23:00.000And so there is always this struggle and this tension about how much can Christians express their faith.
02:23:04.000The biggest problem Christians are facing is in East Jerusalem, where they are constantly targeted by radical groups, radical Jewish groups, let's be clear.
02:23:11.000Sometimes, some churches, they tried, there was an attempt to burn them.
02:23:16.000Oftentimes, and this is, you can look at it on social media all over the place, Christian clergy being spit at by these groups.
02:23:23.000They write very offensive slogans on the wall, there's strong incitements against Christians, especially in the Old City,
02:23:48.000So there are all these incitements against Christians, especially in Jerusalem.
02:23:53.000One might say that, well, we expect to see radical groups in every faith tradition.
02:23:58.000And I say, of course, yes, that exists.
02:23:59.000The problem is when they go unchecked and they're never held accountable, even when there are arsons, I mean attacks on churches.
02:24:04.000Oftentimes the complaint of the heads of churches in Jerusalem, the Catholics, the Orthodox, the Protestants, is that
02:24:08.000It seems that those who do these attacks are never held accountable.
02:24:11.000In fact, I think it was around two years ago when the heads of churches said in a statement that they feel there is a systematic attempt to empty Jerusalem of Christians.
02:24:21.000Look at that statement from the heads of churches.
02:24:23.000So the impression that it's flowery here for Christians is definitely not true.
02:24:27.000But beyond that, we have to look at the wider political spectrum, because at the end of the day, Israel wants to be both democratic and Jewish.
02:24:34.000And many question whether that is possible.
02:24:37.000And that's why, as I said, even Israeli human rights organizations have called out the policies and discrimination policies of Israel.
02:24:43.000The nation state law, for example, states this is a law that was passed by the Knesset.
02:24:47.000It states that the right for self-determination in the state of Israel is exclusive to the Jewish people only.
02:24:52.000So this is a law that was passed by the Knesset that makes Jews superior in the State of Israel, because they are the only one they have exclusively the right for self-determination.
02:25:01.000So whether it's on incitement against Christians in Jerusalem, whether it's in the fact that not all Christian churches are recognized, or whether it's the structure of the State of Israel as a whole, many have pointed that it's not really fully as flowery as people think, where there is just full freedom, special freedom of religion.
02:25:21.000And even in this war, we've seen academics targeted, we've seen social media being monitored by the Israeli government against Israeli citizenship, what you can say and what you cannot say.
02:25:29.000And if you say anything, for example, what happened on October 7th, you could be put in jail.
02:25:36.000I mean, I'm not saying I support what happened on October 7th.
02:25:38.000I'm saying that even Israel now is targeting and monitoring the social media and many of the Palestinian citizens of Israel, because many people forget that 20% of the citizens of Israel are actually Palestinians, 20%.
02:25:48.000So they're afraid to even speak out and say anything even that sounds that has sympathy with the people of Gaza because they feel they will be targeted or they might lose their jobs.
02:25:58.000Again, I invite people to come and listen to stories and understand what's happening.
02:26:01.000Talk to church leaders, talk to church leaders in Jerusalem about the challenges and difficulties they are facing right now before the war or during the war in Jerusalem.
02:26:10.000So the Speaker of the House in the United States, third in line to the President, third most powerful person.
02:26:43.000That Tucker does not seem to be doing a lot of the talking, and I don't think that's... I think that's very intentional, but... But I think this is... I mean, regardless of that fact, I think this is very good and very positive that people are starting to become aware of this stuff.
02:27:00.000Especially the timing of it, with Candace Owens talking about it.
02:27:04.000And remember, Candace Owens, when she initially was in a beef with Ben Shapiro at the end of last year, she went on Tucker Carlson afterward to clarify her position.
02:27:17.000And Tucker is beefed with Ben Shapiro.
02:27:20.000So, certainly Tucker is not of the same ilk.
02:27:24.000Doesn't mean that he's not an agent, but certainly not the same type of agent.
02:27:28.000Certainly not of the same ilk as Shapiro and the others.
02:27:46.000But he has said that he supports Israel for theological reasons, the ones that you described, that Christians have a moral duty to support the government of Israel, because scripture tells them so.
02:27:54.000Is there any place in the Old or New Testaments that suggests or commands Christians to support the modern government, the secular government of Israel?
02:28:03.000The problem is when you equate the modern secular state of Israel with the Israel of the Bible.
02:28:06.000The Israel of the Bible was a faith community in a covenant relationship with God that was given the laws and asked to be a light to the nations and through that nation we as Christians believe Jesus came as a savior to the world.
02:28:18.000The problem begins when you compare or when you equate the modern secular state of Israel, a political entity birthed in the 20th century, with the people of Israel in the Bible.
02:28:28.000And this takes the question, which is a theological question of the chosen people, into something that I call the chosen state.
02:28:36.000The Bible doesn't talk about a chosen state.
02:28:38.000And to me the biggest problem, again, is when we give special treatment to any people group,
02:28:53.000It's about our calling to be a light, to be a blessing to others.
02:28:56.000We cannot change that into a theology of entitlement.
02:28:59.000And definitely a state cannot take that and make it the blueprint for being entitled and asking for everyone as if to support them.
02:29:07.000And the problem is that it's not like, you know, it's the Christians who are saying this.
02:29:12.000It's the Christian pastors who are saying we are called to bless Israel.
02:29:15.000Because when you mentioned Mike Johnson, he said, when he became House Speaker, that as Christians the Bible tells us we should support Israel.
02:29:24.000What if, hypothetically speaking, let's not get into our argument, what if Israel is committing war crimes?
02:29:29.000Or what if Israel is breaking the international law?
02:29:31.000Does that mean as Christians we should support them regardless?
02:29:35.000And I fully understand and I'm fully aware of the shameful history of Christianity, in particular when it comes to anti-Semitism.
02:29:42.000But the solution to anti-Semitism cannot be a blank support to Zionism, especially since that support to Zionism has come on the expense of Palestinians.
02:29:49.000I always say it seems to me that many Christians in the West are repenting
02:29:52.000Over the sin of anti-semitism, a sin that happened on their ground, they are repenting on our ground.
02:29:57.000So, to answer your question, no, I don't think the Bible justifies or calls for an unconditional support to a political entity.
02:30:03.000I think the Bible calls us to be good neighbors to all people, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists.
02:30:06.000I think the Bible calls us to love all people and to show no favoritism, because God shows no favoritism.
02:30:34.000And we always say, no, they don't represent us.
02:30:37.000When this support translates into support of war, this is where I'm troubled the most.
02:30:41.000It's not just because I'm a Palestinian, by the way.
02:30:43.000As a Christian, I'm troubled because it's the credibility of the Christian witness that is at stake.
02:30:48.000When it seems that Christians, as in the example of Warburg, seems to call for the genocide of too many Palestinians in Gaza, throw a nuclear bomb and get rid of them.
02:30:55.000I mean, is that really the way of Christ?
02:30:57.000Is this how we walk in Jesus' footsteps as Jesus' followers?
02:31:09.000And I'm not exaggerating when we use strong words like, they need to repent of these ways.
02:31:14.000If you wake up in the morning and decide that your Christian faith requires you to support a foreign government blowing up churches and killing Christians, I think you've lost the thread.
02:31:22.000Just to end on this, if you had a message for Christian leaders in the United States, whether in government or in churches or just citizens who care about the religion, their fellow Christians, what would it be?
02:31:29.000It would be to remind them that when the state of Israel was created, it was not created on an empty land.
02:31:33.000It was created on a land that had millions of indigenous Palestinians there, including Palestinian Christians.
02:31:39.000And that state they celebrated as a fulfillment of prophecy and a sign of God's faith to the Jewish people for it to become a state.
02:31:46.000Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, including Palestinian Christians, were forced to leave and have never returned.
02:31:53.000A friend of mine did the research and counted more than 30 churches that were closed when Israel was created because Palestinians were expelled from the land.
02:31:59.000Our numbers continue to be in decline.
02:32:05.000And my message to Christian leaders right now is, there is a very, very brutal war taking place in Gaza, a war that I've described using the word genocide, because it's a war that has used, if it's starvation, as a meme.
02:32:15.000And fellow Christians are suffering because of that war.
02:32:18.000It's time that Christian leaders recognize that wars is not the way, whether in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Libya, I mean,
02:32:25.000When will we learn that war does not help?
02:32:27.000When will we take Jesus' words seriously about being peacemakers, about being merciful?
02:32:35.000And so it would be an invitation to listen, to learn more, and to avoid very shallow and simplistic perspectives that are not based on scripture itself, but more based on political equations.
02:32:46.000And I would plea right now, and I will continue to plea, that we need to stop this war in Gaza.
02:32:51.000It's killing many, many children, women, innocent lives.
02:32:54.000There must be other ways, and as a follower of Christ, we have to pursue the path of peace and justice, and we have to avoid simplistic polarizations, good and evil.
02:33:04.000Come and listen, come and understand what's happening, and I plead as a Christian pastor from Bethlehem, I plead that you come and listen.
02:33:10.000Father, thank you for your thoroughly decent and sensible analysis, and I hope it's heard by Christians Southwest.
02:33:19.000I mean, so he's pretty explicitly coming after Christian Zionism, specifically.
02:33:24.000That whole interview, the whole basis of the interview is attacking the conceit of Christian Zionism, which is that Christians have to support Israel based on some kind of biblical commandment, which is interesting in light of what's happening across the board.
02:33:39.000The left is anti-Israel for ideological reasons.
02:33:45.000The base of Israel's support in America are elderly, right-wing, Christian, white people, dispensationalist Christians that believe that Genesis says that God will bless America for supporting the state of Israel.
02:34:00.000And that is really the only remaining support for Israel in America.
02:34:06.000For Tucker, the biggest right-wing pundit in America by far, to do a shot across the bow like this, to do a show and say, actually, if you wake up and think that your religion tells you to support Israel for killing Christians, you've lost the plot.
02:35:25.000You know, once people get the distinction in mind, because the way it is, everybody thinks that Jews might as well be Christians and Israel might as well be the 51st state.
02:35:35.000So it's really important to build this foundation and say, hey, Israel and America aren't always on the same page.
02:36:14.000I mean, I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth, but I have my suspicions about Tucker based on his family background and some of these foreign trips that he's been on, his support of Malay, and other things.
02:36:27.000Whatever it is, I support him raising the consciousness on this issue.
02:36:35.000I don't even need to necessarily trust him absolutely.
02:37:13.000He studied Judaism at university in South Africa.
02:37:16.000So this guy's about as Jewish as it gets, just so you know.
02:37:20.000He's the one that left, uh, took a break on the Sabbath
02:37:26.000To go on Twitter during October 7th and say we should genocide the Palestinians.
02:37:30.000That's this guy, if you remember that.
02:37:32.000He says, allow me to respond to Tucker Carlson's interview by talking about the facts rather than speculating about whether Tucker hates Israel or is an anti-Semite.
02:37:44.000He says he is concerned with Christians.
02:40:43.000I mean, this is just a piece of shit, this guy.
02:40:49.000Reverend Isaac does not believe Israel should exist, a fact Tucker does not discuss.
02:40:55.000He repeats many false claims about Israel's war against Hamas in Gaza, like the claim Israeli snipers killed two civilians in a church, which the IDF refuted.
02:45:37.000His political views began to shift toward the right after experiences as a student in South Africa, which he described as waking him from a left-wing worldview.
02:45:47.000He attended Harvard, from which he graduated magna cum laude with a joint degree in social studies and environment science.
02:45:54.000He then attended the University of Cape Town and earned a master's degree in Jewish Studies.
02:50:07.000...stood that he was a fine student of Torah.
02:50:10.000His studies in Gemara were practically all-consuming.
02:50:14.000But there was another side to Ariel that you might not have glimpsed.
02:50:17.000It's so funny when you actually hear him talk and they sound like my imagination.
02:50:20.000And that was Ariel's love and devotion to Eretz Israel, to Israel.
02:50:24.000Ariel was a fervent religious Zionist.
02:50:28.000And as he matured, he came to understand that the mainstream media had turned against Israel.
02:50:34.000Ariel understood that demonizing the Jewish state had become the norm for most American newspapers, with the notable exception of the Wall Street Journal and TV news outlets.
02:50:46.000I know that Andrew had been looking forward to this opportunity for three reasons.
02:52:17.000Emotive about his own Judaism more than once sitting in the office, and it's a giant open space He would burst into a Hebrew school song or he'd start chanting his bar mitzvah portion which happens to be Parshat Bo you want to know And and partly this was sort of to tease me, but also to amuse himself They love and you ever notice.
02:52:37.000They just they love talking about themselves.
02:52:50.000You're working for American news media.
02:52:54.000He wasn't an observant Jew, but often he would break out in old songs from Hebrew school, which, if you happen to know, was goosh-baloo, was boop-a-la-boo.
02:53:06.000Once a Tameem, always a Tameem, as the prophets say, as the elders say.
02:53:17.000It was an interesting journey for Andrew because he grew up in a reform... It's a giant open space.
02:53:22.000He would burst into a Hebrew school song, or he'd start chanting his bar mitzvah portion, which happens to be Parshat Bo, if you wanna know.
02:57:25.000Defend America's enemies and attack America's allies.
02:57:29.000There isn't an objective bone in that washed up news host body.
02:57:34.000Mindless contrarianism is his guiding principle buttressed by his childish tactic to just ask questions.
02:57:41.000Any educated adult, especially one with such a long career in journalism, should occasionally try answering some of those questions objectively.
03:03:59.000evergreen very good this one's evergreen yeah this one's kind of funny that sucks that's good stuff i was also going to talk about that uh lauren southern tweet and then i'm going to get out of here then i gotta go
03:04:24.000cuz I got a show to do later tonight you know so I'm gonna I'm gonna look at this Lauren Southern tweet then I'm gonna get out of here cuz I got a show to do I'll be doing a show in a few hours so tune back in at 10 10 30 ish central time and I'll be doing a show
03:04:48.000Lauren Southern, a brief list of well-adjusted men on this website who are heterosexual, aka actually like women, and contribute to a significantly healthier psychological analysis of gender relations.
03:05:01.000I saw this and I was like, dude, if I was on this list, I would commit suicide.
03:08:49.000normie mcdonald by the way oh and he's a doyle fan epic no that's about right let's see who else we got here edmund smirk like edmund burke
03:09:45.000Just imagine everything that makes the American dream possible and what the novo regime, the new regime, which worships at the altar, WORSHIPS AT THE ALTAR!
03:15:21.000I wasn't even expecting to go down that rabbit hole, but I didn't even know that he was doing videos for the David Horowitz Center, of course.
03:18:14.000For all the guys that aren't toxic males.
03:18:18.000If you see an ex-account that is constantly name-calling or pulling bottom-of-the-barrel drama out in any political argument, responding to them is like pulling an insult lever.
03:18:27.000Idiot slot machine, just stop playing!
03:22:07.000F1Groper sent $20, when Ted Cruz did his infamous voter conscious stunt at the 16th convention it was reported that Adelson blocked him from his donor suite, a month later he endorsed Trump.
03:22:18.000Get booed off the stage by GOP voters, no problem.
03:22:22.000Run afoul with Sheldon Adelson and it's DEATHCON 3.
03:22:25.000Never heard that story but doesn't surprise me.
03:22:29.000Poopcoin sent $20, James Traficant was another congressman that probably got killed for talking about Israel.