America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - ULTIMATE REDPILL STREAM??? Feat. Andrew Tate, Adin Ross, Sneako | America First Ep. 1398

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00:02:04.000 They don't know what they are supporting.

00:02:09.000 They don't know how bad it has gotten.

00:02:13.000 They don't know what is necessary to make the difference.

00:02:18.000 They didn't hear us on Twitter.

00:02:20.000 They didn't hear us on True Social.

00:02:22.000 They just censored the hashtags.

00:02:24.000 They didn't hear us when we emailed them.

00:02:27.000 And they didn't hear us when the Washington Post and every other news media outlet reported it.

00:02:33.000 For that reason, the Goyper War will continue, and we will accelerate and intensify our plans. 1.00

00:02:42.000 We have to deploy to Michigan, and we have to make it hurt as much as possible.

00:02:50.000 If he wants to stop the pain, he must stop the betrayal of America first.

00:02:57.000 He must stop the betrayal of America first.

00:03:04.000 My own narrative is not one of some sudden booming bolt of lightning out of the blue.

00:03:11.000 out of the blue.

00:03:12.000 It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.

00:03:28.000 And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.

00:03:34.000 Why are you called Mommy Malcolm?

00:03:37.000 I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Groupers wars of 2019 when so many of these 1.00

00:03:43.000 brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning

00:03:49.000 him about his undying loyalty and of course defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars

00:03:57.000 of the burgeoning America First movement who through an increasing amount of activism are

00:04:02.000 really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.

00:04:07.000 So, so,

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00:04:56.000 so, Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.

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00:05:59.000 Me and the workers will save the Trump campaign!

00:06:02.000 We will give a voice to all of the rightful frustrations that the Trump supporters have, whether they're willing to direct their anger at me or at the campaign, and I'll let them know.

00:06:14.000 We love Trump.

00:06:15.000 I love Trump.

00:06:16.000 We all love Trump.

00:06:18.000 And if they don't make the course correction, then it's on them.

00:06:23.000 Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.

00:06:34.000 This election will determine whether we're a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy, but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system, and our system is rigged.

00:06:48.000 This is reality.

00:06:51.000 You know it.

00:06:52.000 They know it.

00:06:53.000 I know it.

00:06:54.000 And pretty much the whole world knows it.

00:06:58.000 This is not the Trump campaign from 2016.

00:07:01.000 It's worse.

00:07:04.000 I see this stuff and I have to wonder, why has nobody been fired?

00:07:11.000 Isn't that Trump's trademark?

00:07:13.000 That if results aren't happening that people are... you're fired?

00:07:17.000 Isn't that the whole trademark?

00:07:20.000 Someone needs to be fired. 0.99

00:07:23.000 It happened back in 2016.

00:07:25.000 He went through campaign managers and advisors all the time.

00:07:29.000 And it was good.

00:07:30.000 It kept things fresh.

00:07:32.000 It kept things competitive.

00:07:33.000 It was interesting.

00:07:34.000 Fire Chris LaCivita.

00:07:36.000 Fire Susie Wiles. 0.83

00:07:38.000 Get new campaign managers.

00:07:40.000 Fix this campaign before it's too late.

00:07:43.000 Before we blow it again.

00:07:45.000 We want Trump to win.

00:07:47.000 We want America first.

00:07:49.000 But you are letting us down.

00:07:50.000 You're blowing it.

00:07:51.000 This is the biggest missed opportunity in history.

00:07:55.000 You're blowing it for Trump.

00:07:56.000 You're blowing it for us.

00:07:57.000 And we're not going to let it happen.

00:07:59.000 You have alienated us.

00:08:01.000 You have ignored us.

00:08:03.000 You don't listen to our concerns.

00:08:05.000 We have been left behind.

00:08:08.000 The Trump movement and the GOP have moved on without us.

00:08:11.000 It serves Israel and corporations and immigrants, but it doesn't serve Native Americans.

00:08:17.000 What about Native Americans?

00:08:19.000 I don't want to hear any more about communism.

00:08:22.000 I don't want to hear any more about Vance.

00:08:24.000 I don't want to hear about whatever.

00:08:27.000 And the message is simple.

00:08:29.000 America first.

00:08:31.000 Native Americans.

00:08:33.000 America only.

00:08:34.000 No Israel. 1.00

00:08:35.000 No corporations.

00:08:37.000 No foreign influence.

00:08:39.000 No foreigners. 1.00

00:08:40.000 No immigrants. 1.00

00:08:41.000 None of that.

00:08:43.000 Just America.

00:08:44.000 America first.

00:08:46.000 And Christ the King.

00:08:49.000 So this is a call to all Christians, immigration restrictionists, foreign policy non-interventionists, trade protectionists, those in favor of industrial policy, patriots, nativists, nationalists, non-interventionists, traditionalists, that are not happy with the State of the Trump campaign, you are being recruited. 0.65

00:09:12.000 Trump is a peaceful man.

00:09:14.000 We're declaring war on the evil Trump campaign.

00:09:16.000 He needs to be liberated.

00:09:18.000 We will liberate him.

00:09:20.000 We will make him independent from his donors.

00:09:23.000 We will make him independent from Silicon Valley.

00:09:26.000 We will make him independent from foreign influence. 0.61

00:09:29.000 Otherwise, and if we don't succeed, there's no hope.

00:09:32.000 You're done.

00:09:33.000 If we don't succeed, if this doesn't work, there's no hope.

00:09:37.000 You either get Kamala, and it's total left-wing oppression, it's total bullshit, BLM nonsense, or if you get Trump, it's gonna be total Zionist corporate domination.

00:09:50.000 So if we don't succeed, it's over.

00:09:52.000 You need to get involved in this, or, honestly, just quit.

00:09:57.000 In 2024, we are going to fight the hostile takeover.

00:10:02.000 It's a different battle.

00:10:04.000 But it's the same war.

00:10:07.000 We're going to fight and save Trump from his own people.

00:10:10.000 The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should

00:10:31.000 be that you must keep pushing ahead.

00:10:35.000 it.

00:10:36.000 Because it's the outsiders who change the world and who make a real and lasting difference.

00:10:42.000 Nothing worth doing ever came easy.

00:10:47.000 Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.

00:10:53.000 The future belongs to the people who follow their heart no matter what the critics say.

00:11:00.000 We must always remember that we share one home and one glorious destiny.

00:11:07.000 We all bleed the same red blood of patriotism.

00:11:12.000 We all salute the same great American flag.

00:11:16.000 Our best days are yet to come.

00:11:41.000 I am officially running for President of the United States.

00:11:48.000 We need a leader.

00:11:52.000 I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.

00:12:03.000 It can be wonderful if you have smart people.

00:12:08.000 But we have people that are stupid.

00:12:12.000 The American dream is dead.

00:12:19.000 But if I get elected president, I will bring it back.

00:12:25.000 Bigger and better and stronger than ever before.

00:12:32.000 We want more! We want more!

00:12:38.000 The American dream.

00:12:42.000 And we will make America great again.

00:13:18.000 We will make America great again.

00:13:27.000 And we will make America great again.

00:13:34.000 We will make America great again.

00:13:41.000 We want more! We want more!

00:13:57.000 We want more! We want more!

00:14:13.000 And nobody builds walls better than me, believe me.

00:14:17.000 Bigger and better and stronger than ever before. And we will make America great again.

00:14:27.000 Thank you. Thank you very much.

00:14:29.000 And we will make America great again.

00:14:36.000 We will make America great again.

00:14:44.000 And we will make America great again.

00:15:30.000 We will make America great again.

00:15:37.000 America great again.

00:15:53.000 Great again.

00:16:39.000 But as soon as people start playing games, I stop.

00:16:42.000 I stop playing games.

00:16:45.000 And at any moment I

00:16:49.000 I I

00:17:09.000 I'm on a bowl, yeah, I'm on a bowl, yeah.

00:17:12.000 And I wanna roll.

00:17:13.000 OK, from there.

00:17:14.000 This is my team.

00:17:15.000 The code is accurate.

00:17:16.000 Don't have your back for nonsense.

00:17:17.000 It's different today, but homies know it's still the rules. 0.99

00:17:20.000 It's one of ten.

00:17:21.000 It's ten on the ten.

00:17:22.000 Put them in above your head.

00:17:23.000 Pray before you go.

00:17:24.000 Submit every day.

00:17:25.000 My proposal.

00:17:26.000 I just enforce that.

00:17:27.000 I'm not that.

00:17:28.000 I'm not that.

00:17:29.000 I ain't no new boy.

00:17:30.000 All the bad girls have seen me.

00:17:32.000 And I ain't that.

00:17:33.000 People talking to my face.

00:17:35.000 I'm not that.

00:17:36.000 Not my words, not my rules.

00:17:37.000 I just enforce them.

00:17:38.000 All right?

00:17:39.000 They say, cuss no means. 1.00

00:17:41.000 But I'ma say it.

00:17:42.000 I believe no.

00:17:43.000 Today was a rough day.

00:17:46.000 I'ma say it.

00:17:47.000 I believe no.

00:17:48.000 Today was a rough day.

00:17:49.000 My mama said, trust no old user.

00:17:51.000 But I'ma say it.

00:17:53.000 Cuss no means. 1.00

00:17:54.000 But I'ma say it.

00:17:55.000 I believe no.

00:17:56.000 Today was a rough day.

00:17:58.000 Last night was a god.

00:17:59.000 I'ma say it.

00:18:00.000 It's every night.

00:18:02.000 Performing on everybody I'm telling you I'm an AT

00:18:06.000 Ready to shit Man we can rage way before the start of kick-off

00:18:11.000 If we out today, you know I was just a trick All the dogs had it kicking with the way the fit 0.84

00:18:17.000 If we laid down, was it the shit?

00:18:20.000 If we six, we tight, not upset We can't fuck with the short cut off

00:18:27.000 Only drop you, that's way before they drop shadow There's no doubt in my mind

00:18:34.000 The way does it say, be patient No one can stop this

00:18:40.000 This is the sound of the first pitch We don't say cuss, no bitch 1.00

00:18:45.000 I'm a hit, I'm a beat, I'm a pain, pause, I'm a gutter I'm a sex, I'm a girl, I'm a fighter

00:18:52.000 I'm on the stage, I'm a no-hold, I'm a shooter I'm a hit, I'm a bitch, I'm a hit, I'm a shooter 0.88

00:18:59.000 I'm a beat, I'm a pain, pause, I'm a gutter I'm a sex, I'm a bitch, I'm a girl, I'm a shooter

00:19:05.000 I'm on the stage, I'm a no-hold, I'm a shooter I'm a hit, I'm a bitch, I'm a shooter

00:19:11.000 I'm a hit, I'm a bitch, I'm a shooter I'm a hit, I'm a bitch, I'm a shooter 0.55

00:19:17.000 This is from your biggest Boston fan May you one day see the light

00:19:21.000 Well, hey, thanks, love you too, but sorry, I believe in a religion that makes sense, so... Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump were all cut from the same cloth, and that cloth is very, very large.

00:19:35.000 It's not too big, is it?

00:19:38.000 It's wrong, isn't it?

00:19:39.000 It feels so right.

00:19:41.000 for yourself.

00:19:43.000 It's wrong, isn't it?

00:19:53.000 It feels so right.

00:19:55.000 It's a deal?

00:19:57.000 I put together some really impressive deals.

00:20:04.000 Hmm, I like that.

00:20:10.000 Go big or go home.

00:20:13.000 Donald Trump.

00:20:18.000 You know, you're really beautiful.

00:20:28.000 A woman who looks like that has to have an artificial scent. 1.00

00:20:36.000 Disfidelity. Oh my God!

00:20:39.000 Hey, Donald.

00:20:44.000 Oh, you're beautiful.

00:20:46.000 Thank you very much.

00:20:47.000 I'm not. I'm told that it's a Swiss Army.

00:20:49.000 Listen, are you begging here?

00:20:54.000 Huh?

00:20:56.000 Are you?

00:20:58.000 No, I'm just back from competition.

00:21:02.000 Look at this! Right here on the street, it's Donald Trump!

00:21:08.000 There you are.

00:21:09.000 I'm not! It's him! The star!

00:21:19.000 I'm not the rival!

00:21:21.000 Everything's set for tonight, Mr. Trump.

00:21:24.000 I wonder what Trump's game is this time.

00:21:28.000 Trump's got a new day. Trump's got a new deal.

00:21:37.000 What's your game, Donald?

00:21:39.000 I heard about Trump's new deal!

00:21:40.000 Trump has a new game. What is it?

00:21:55.000 Mr. Trump, we need you to come out here.

00:21:57.000 Mr. Trump, come out here!

00:21:59.000 You can't do that, Mr. Trump!

00:22:01.000 You can't do that, Mr. Trump!

00:22:02.000 We're gonna get you!

00:22:04.000 you My new game is Trump.

00:22:08.000 The game.

00:22:08.000 Trump.

00:22:09.000 The game.

00:22:09.000 This sounds like political presidential talk.

00:22:14.000 You said, though, that if you did run for president, you'd believe you'd win.

00:22:19.000 I would like that.

00:22:20.000 I would say that I would have a hell of a chance of winning.

00:22:25.000 I wouldn't go in to lose.

00:22:28.000 I've never gone in to lose in my life.

00:22:32.000 I don't know how your audience feels, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off.

00:22:37.000 That's the guy on the floor, right?

00:22:40.000 I'm not accepting. I'm not accepting. I wouldn't tell you.

00:22:43.000 Okay, kids, make it fast. I've got a plane to catch.

00:22:45.000 Can you create a magazine? Mr. Trump, we can do that. Scourge!

00:23:08.000 Excuse me, where's the money?

00:23:10.000 Down the hall, please.

00:23:15.000 Your male modeling would be what it is today.

00:23:33.000 Donald Trump, you should probably be realizing your budget.

00:23:38.000 Christ, I think he was just about to fight before the fight.

00:23:41.000 You've got to be losing money on this.

00:23:45.000 That's right.

00:23:54.000 Dare I say it?

00:24:02.000 I am declaring a new DROYFUR war against the Trump campaign until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

00:24:19.000 MUSIC I will fight for you with every breath in my body, and I will never, ever let you down.

00:24:40.000 A new Troyper war. 0.97

00:24:43.000 Yeah, nigga, it's war, nigga, it's war. 1.00

00:24:45.000 I'm taking bodies on the floor.

00:24:47.000 I'm with it all.

00:24:48.000 I talk to my demons, and I see the writings on the wall.

00:24:50.000 Niggas is dying when it's over. 1.00

00:24:52.000 I get excited for them punks.

00:24:53.000 And Noah ain't crying when he go.

00:24:54.000 Cause Brody was fighting for the cause.

00:25:00.000 They don't know what they are supporting.

00:25:05.000 They don't know how bad it has gotten.

00:25:09.000 They don't know what is necessary to make the difference.

00:25:14.000 They didn't hear us on Twitter.

00:25:16.000 They didn't hear us on True Social.

00:25:18.000 They just censored the hashtags.

00:25:20.000 They didn't hear us when we emailed them.

00:25:22.000 And they didn't hear us when the Washington Post and every other news media outlet reported it.

00:25:28.000 For that reason, the Goyper War will continue. 1.00

00:25:33.000 And we will accelerate and intensify our plans.

00:25:38.000 We have to deploy to Michigan, and we have to make it hurt as much as possible.

00:25:46.000 If he wants to stop the pain, he must stop the betrayal of America first.

00:25:53.000 He must stop the betrayal of America first.

00:26:37.000 They've been put on notice. If you fuck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to

00:26:43.000 you that have never been done before.

00:26:46.000 Don't sit yet, get it like this.

00:26:48.000 We're all in this together, we're all in this together, we're all in this together, we're all in this together.

00:27:13.000 The Socialists, Globalists, Marxists, Communists who are attacking our civilization have no idea of the sleeping

00:27:25.000 giant they have awoken.

00:27:28.000 They cannot even begin to imagine the brave and righteous spirit they've unleashed in men and women.

00:27:35.000 But they're going to find out the hard way.

00:27:38.000 They will find out like never before.

00:27:41.000 This nation belongs to you belongs to you.

00:27:46.000 You are not a prisoner.

00:28:00.000 It was patriots like you that built this country, and it's patriots like you that are going to save our

00:28:07.000 country.

00:28:08.000 To all of those who think that they can coerce and subjugate the citizens of this land, hear these words.

00:28:19.000 For me tonight, the people of America will not surrender our borders.

00:28:25.000 We will not surrender our culture.

00:28:27.000 We will not surrender our faith.

00:28:30.000 We will not surrender our values.

00:28:34.000 We will not surrender our history.

00:28:36.000 We will not surrender our liberty.

00:28:38.000 And above all, we will not surrender our children.

00:28:43.000 We are done with their distorted visions for America.

00:28:47.000 It's time to start talking about greatness for our country again.

00:28:52.000 We want our country to be great again.

00:28:55.000 We want our country to be respected.

00:28:58.000 I don't want to see any love in this race. 1.00

00:29:01.000 What's the point of these trials and debates?

00:29:04.000 What's the point of dealing with my life without peace?

00:29:07.000 What's the point of always going down for a kiss?

00:29:10.000 The time for action has come.

00:29:15.000 As long as we are led by politicians who will not put America first,

00:29:23.000 then we can be assured that other nations will not treat America with respect,

00:29:30.000 the respect that we deserve.

00:29:34.000 You can't deny the way you waste empathy

00:29:38.000 hate love racial bias

00:29:40.000 is depressing these drugs are allłe

00:29:43.000 promoting arus

00:29:45.000 to be more

00:29:47.000 acceptable basically

00:29:56.000 Vida That's Chris Lassoveda

00:29:58.000 Chris Lassovida Chris Lassovida

00:30:00.000 NS Fame 44

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00:30:03.000 Senior advisors Chris Lassovida and Suzy Wiles should be terminated

00:30:08.000 immediately Bad boys, what you gonna do?

00:30:11.000 You're going home.

00:30:13.000 You're going home.

00:30:15.000 I'm a bad boy.

00:30:17.000 I'm a bad boy.

00:30:20.000 The end.

00:30:26.000 Oh Oh

00:30:31.000 Let me ask you about Project 2025.

00:30:34.000 Never heard of it.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 They're a pain in the ass.

00:30:38.000 Yeah.

00:30:39.000 By nature, political consultants, we want to control everything.

00:30:43.000 Yeah.

00:30:44.000 Right?

00:30:44.000 Yeah.

00:30:44.000 We just, we want to control everything, including the candidate.

00:30:47.000 Yeah. Where is our Bulldog from 2016?

00:31:15.000 I'm sorry.

00:31:17.000 These interests have rigged our political and economic system for their exclusive benefit, because they have total control.

00:31:26.000 They pull the strings.

00:31:29.000 My message is that things have to change, and they have to change right now.

00:31:37.000 If you miss this version of Trump, you have his campaign managers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles to blame.

00:31:45.000 LaSevita was found liking posts on Twitter advocating for the 25th Amendment to be invoked and to remove Trump from office on January 6th.

00:31:53.000 And Wiles wants Trump to abandon his loyal base in order to pander to minorities who won't turn out to vote for him regardless.

00:32:00.000 Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles are responsible for Trump's drastic change in rhetoric and his failure in the polls.

00:32:07.000 If you want Trump to win, he must fire these disloyal saboteurs.

00:32:12.000 Use the hashtags firelessavida and firewiles to save Trump from these swamp creatures.

00:32:17.000 Thank you for watching. If you like this video, please subscribe.

00:33:45.000 you I got one too.

00:34:07.000 Haha, campaign sucks.

00:34:08.000 Yeah, we're coming for you.

00:34:12.000 Yo, yo, all you bitches on the campaign, Trump about to lose to an Indian with COVID nuts and you think this a joke? 1.00

00:34:26.000 Trump just got shot in the ear and you are losing to a cackling thugly woman who speaks in erbonics when she is around minorities. 1.00

00:34:32.000 Yo, yo, Donald Trump, how pathetic can you be?

00:34:36.000 You fired people for a living and now you You used to be the mean god and now you sound like a bitch. 0.99

00:34:46.000 You are losing this campaign because you staffed it with a bunch of gays. 1.00

00:34:51.000 Who the hell is running your shit?

00:34:52.000 Whoever it is needs to be fired on national TV.

00:34:55.000 You look like a straight up bitch and you- Americanism not globalism will be our credo! 1.00

00:35:04.000 It's going to be only America first. 0.99

00:35:08.000 America first.

00:35:13.000 The American people will come first once again.

00:35:18.000 With respect, the respect that we deserve.

00:35:29.000 From this day forward, it's going to be only America first. 0.99

00:35:42.000 America First!

00:35:54.000 you you

00:37:42.000 you good evening everybody

00:37:57.000 You are watching America First.

00:37:58.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:38:00.000 We have a great show for you tonight.

00:38:02.000 Very excited to be back here with you tonight on Wednesday.

00:38:06.000 We have a lot to talk about, lots to get into.

00:38:08.000 Big show.

00:38:09.000 Huge show.

00:38:14.000 So much going on this week, and we're barely even able to get to all of it.

00:38:19.000 Tonight, we're going to be talking about the Iranian strikes on Israel, which took place yesterday.

00:38:26.000 We should have covered it yesterday, but we had the VP debate.

00:38:30.000 Ordinarily, I would cover that.

00:38:31.000 It would be a massive show.

00:38:33.000 But we had the vice presidential debate last night.

00:38:36.000 I was covering that the whole night.

00:38:39.000 So tonight, we'll be catching up on the news from yesterday, talking about Iran's missile strike on Israel.

00:38:46.000 And allegedly, this is the long-awaited retaliation by Iran for the killing of Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, back in late July, as well as the Hezbollah commander, Fouad Shouker, in Beirut, which took place the day before that.

00:39:05.000 They said at the time that it would be swift and violate all red lines when they retaliated for those assassinations, and it never happened.

00:39:17.000 And Iran basically waited until Israel killed the whole leadership of Hezbollah, including its leader, bombed South Lebanon thousands of times, and then initiated a ground invasion before they responded.

00:39:30.000 And yesterday's missile strikes, which were 181, according to the United States, ballistic missiles, that was Iran's counterattack.

00:39:41.000 That was their reply for those assassinations, specifically of Hania, Nasrallah, and an IRGC general who was killed in the past week.

00:39:50.000 So we'll talk about all the details of the strike.

00:39:54.000 It's a big deal.

00:39:55.000 It's only the second time in history that Iran has directly attacked Israel.

00:40:01.000 The other time being its reply in April for Israel's attack on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.

00:40:09.000 So it's a huge deal.

00:40:11.000 It was a bigger strike with less of a warning.

00:40:15.000 And although it didn't kill anybody or do any substantial damage to critical infrastructure, Still a big deal.

00:40:25.000 And now we await Israel's response and then whatever Iran will do. 0.93

00:40:30.000 And we have some news about that as well.

00:40:32.000 We'll also be talking tonight about Lebanon.

00:40:35.000 Israel's not having such a good time in Lebanon.

00:40:39.000 Eight Israeli officers were killed today in fighting along the border with Lebanon during ground operations.

00:40:47.000 They were ambushed, according to Hezbollah, and killed inside of a house, and it included the commander of one of Israel's elite special forces units.

00:40:57.000 So they're not having such an easy time at the ground operations.

00:41:01.000 This is Iran's revenge. 1.00

00:41:03.000 So, we'll talk about all the developments in the Middle East, so much ground to cover, but of course, I already predicted all of it, so it's kind of like, for us, it's old news, but we'll cover the latest.

00:41:20.000 We'll talk a little bit about the vice presidential debate.

00:41:24.000 Not a ton, because it really isn't that important, but we'll recap it very briefly.

00:41:30.000 I'll just talk about some reflections and some of the reactions to the debate.

00:41:37.000 The right wing is gaslighting everybody into thinking that Vance won.

00:41:43.000 But I haven't seen any evidence of that.

00:41:47.000 Vance's favorables did go up, and according to one poll, he now has a net plus two favorability rating.

00:41:57.000 But Wahl's favorability went up even higher, by more, and his favorable numbers are higher.

00:42:04.000 And according to various focus groups, Wahl's won the debate.

00:42:08.000 So the right wing is telling everybody, Vance ran away with it.

00:42:11.000 This is why Trump picked him.

00:42:13.000 They're shilling Vance harder than they're shilling Trump.

00:42:17.000 Very interesting.

00:42:18.000 So we'll cover the debate a little bit, but not a lot.

00:42:22.000 Like I said, we'll talk about some of the reaction and the debate itself.

00:42:27.000 And that will be our news for the night.

00:42:30.000 Before we get into it, I want to remind you to smash the follow button on Rumble, smash the like button, leave a comment.

00:42:38.000 Let me know what you think about the show.

00:42:40.000 I'm not really reading the comments these days because they're very negative.

00:42:44.000 People are getting on my case about being late.

00:42:47.000 And then there's just a lot of weird garbage, people spamming the comments, writing essays.

00:42:52.000 Nobody wants to see that.

00:42:55.000 I went in the comments the other day, and people are writing these, like, essays and, like, putting huge quotes.

00:43:03.000 Like, why are people leaving that in the comments?

00:43:06.000 You think anybody wants to—who's reading this stuff?

00:43:09.000 You're here to watch the show, not read essays in the comments section.

00:43:15.000 So, anyway.

00:43:16.000 So leave a comment, I guess, because it's just good for engagement.

00:43:20.000 But let's try to just be a little judicious, okay?

00:43:24.000 Also, it's going to be a big night tonight.

00:43:27.000 We're going to have a relatively shorter show because in an hour and a half I'm going to be debating this liberal on Aiden Ross's stream over on Kik.

00:43:40.000 So it'll be me and this guy Dean Withers.

00:43:44.000 He was the liberal teenager from the Jubilee video.

00:43:48.000 I can't believe I'm subjecting myself to this.

00:43:51.000 Honestly, it's undignified.

00:43:54.000 Me, debating some liberal teenager who goes on TikTok and is like, Kamala's the best, Trump sucks.

00:44:02.000 It's just like.

00:44:05.000 We're just so far past that.

00:44:07.000 You know, the dialogue has just evolved beyond, like, partisan conversations about the GOP and the Democrats.

00:44:15.000 He wants to debate Trump and Kamala, okay?

00:44:19.000 And I'm going to be forced to defend Trump in an ironic twist of fate.

00:44:25.000 We're going to be debating Christianity, where he's going to argue about how the Bible has slavery in it.

00:44:31.000 Okay, like that hasn't been done before.

00:44:34.000 We're going to be debating feminism, LGBT.

00:44:39.000 So it's a real blast from the past.

00:44:42.000 I was talking to Aiden before the show.

00:44:43.000 He's like, tell me what topics you want to do.

00:44:45.000 I'm like, I don't even know what to talk about.

00:44:47.000 I don't talk to liberals anymore.

00:44:49.000 When's the last time I've debated a liberal on anything?

00:44:53.000 I'm debating other conservatives.

00:44:55.000 We're into like deep politics.

00:44:57.000 We're talking about the Talmudic network.

00:45:00.000 We're exploring every sect of Judaism.

00:45:03.000 We're mapping out Israel's influence network in the United States.

00:45:08.000 And then he got to go and debate a liberal teenager about The Democrat president isn't good.

00:45:15.000 Like, what are we doing?

00:45:18.000 But we have to do it.

00:45:20.000 We have to throw out.

00:45:21.000 It's sort of like when you go to the zoo and the zookeeper goes out and they throw fish to the seals.

00:45:29.000 You know, they throw grain to the birds or something.

00:45:33.000 It's kind of like that.

00:45:35.000 No, it'll be good content.

00:45:37.000 It'll be good content.

00:45:38.000 It'll be fun.

00:45:39.000 It'll be exciting.

00:45:40.000 I love Aiden.

00:45:41.000 Sneeko's gonna be there as well.

00:45:43.000 We love Sneeko.

00:45:44.000 And it'll be good.

00:45:46.000 And get this.

00:45:48.000 So if you go on the guy's Twitter, go on the guy's Twitter.

00:45:51.000 If you go on the guy's Twitter, who I'm debating, he was supposed to debate Sneeko.

00:45:57.000 I guess Sneeko didn't want to do it.

00:46:00.000 He said on Twitter, uh, oh, so I have a new opponent and I have this moral obligation to call him out for his worldview.

00:46:11.000 And Aiden calls me before I went live and he's like, he, he wants to bring up your past comments.

00:46:17.000 And it's like, Oh my God.

00:46:19.000 I'm like, honestly, I'm just going into it to have a good time.

00:46:24.000 I'm going to win, but I, it's like, I'm really just going into this to have a good time.

00:46:28.000 It's just like, so, It's kind of endearing almost.

00:46:32.000 It's kind of like that there's like a nostalgia there.

00:46:36.000 It's there.

00:46:37.000 It's a sentimental sort of, you know, to go into this debate and like some lib shit is going to be like, you said the Taliban is cool.

00:46:46.000 You said that Jim Crow wasn't that bad. 1.00

00:46:48.000 And it's like.

00:46:50.000 I remember those days.

00:46:52.000 I remember those days.

00:46:54.000 What a blast from the past.

00:46:56.000 Remember that?

00:46:57.000 But this is what being mainstream feels like.

00:47:00.000 When you're mainstream, you have to debate Trump versus Kamala, and you have to defend yourself about allegations of racism.

00:47:09.000 You're going to get a liberal that says, you're racist, and you're like, I know, you know, you're like, I know, right?

00:47:20.000 But then you gotta go, no, I'm not.

00:47:22.000 I'm not.

00:47:23.000 Here's why.

00:47:24.000 You know, and like, you're going to have this liberal guy's going to be like, women aren't retarded. 1.00

00:47:30.000 And I'm like, yeah, they are for this reason.

00:47:35.000 And this reason, and according to a study in 2006.

00:47:38.000 Oh, it's so, isn't this so, uh, Parochial, it's so sweet, and it's so adorable.

00:47:50.000 And it's cute.

00:47:51.000 And it's cutesy, and we love it.

00:47:53.000 So it's gonna be a good debate.

00:47:55.000 It's gonna start at 10 o'clock Central Time.

00:47:58.000 So like I said, shorter show.

00:48:00.000 I'm gonna do a monologue.

00:48:01.000 The monologue is gonna be long.

00:48:03.000 Superchats, I'm gonna have to cut short.

00:48:06.000 And then I'm going live on kick for this big debate.

00:48:12.000 The great debate.

00:48:14.000 The Jubilee team.

00:48:18.000 That's all it takes these days.

00:48:20.000 I look him up.

00:48:20.000 He's got like a million followers on TikTok.

00:48:23.000 He's made like 30 TikToks.

00:48:25.000 How do you have a million followers?

00:48:28.000 I'm so old now.

00:48:29.000 He was on Jubilee.

00:48:31.000 Everyone followed him.

00:48:34.000 And it's like, this is just the state of the discourse now.

00:48:37.000 You know, it's like various teenagers arguing over which, over whether Republicans or Democrats are better presidents.

00:48:47.000 That's crazy.

00:48:49.000 Right?

00:48:50.000 And, you know, it's been made this way by piece of shit grifter influencers.

00:48:56.000 It's people like Destiny, and it's people like Jack Posobiec, or you know, whatever the equivalent would be on the right.

00:49:05.000 They have made it that way where it's like someone turns 18 and if they're politically inclined, they're like, I have to defend Trump, Bush, Reagan, and Dwight Eisenhower.

00:49:17.000 You know, or if they're liberal disposition, I have to defend Obama, Biden, Clinton.

00:49:24.000 And it's like, why are, why are we doing this?

00:49:27.000 Don't we know that Jews run the government now?

00:49:30.000 Can we all, can we put our differences aside and just agree Jews run the government?

00:49:35.000 You know?

00:49:36.000 Anyway.

00:49:37.000 So it's gonna be fun.

00:49:39.000 I'm so looking forward to it.

00:49:41.000 It's gonna be a good time.

00:49:42.000 10 o'clock, and I appreciate Aiden Ross.

00:49:45.000 You know, I've known Aiden Ross for a couple years now, ever since I connected with Ye and Aiden Ross was gonna stream with him back when we were doing the campaign.

00:49:57.000 I actually like him a lot.

00:49:58.000 I think he's a good guy.

00:49:59.000 I think he's very funny.

00:50:00.000 I think he's got a good heart.

00:50:01.000 Obviously, we have very different values and, you know, religions and things like that, but I think he's a good guy.

00:50:08.000 I think he's funny.

00:50:09.000 I think he means well.

00:50:11.000 So...

00:50:12.000 So I like him.

00:50:13.000 So it's going to be fun.

00:50:14.000 I like him.

00:50:14.000 I like Sneeko.

00:50:16.000 They're good dudes.

00:50:17.000 They're chillers.

00:50:18.000 They're not, you know, they're not like, uh, people are so politically correct.

00:50:23.000 They're pretty based in that.

00:50:24.000 Even if they're not like super, super conservative, they're pretty based.

00:50:29.000 So anyway, so that's a 10 o'clock hour and a half.

00:50:33.000 I want to get into the show.

00:50:34.000 Cause we don't have a ton of time unless I'm forgetting anything.

00:50:39.000 I think that's it.

00:50:41.000 Um, So I guess we'll start, we'll recap the vice presidential debate, but not for very long because I do want to cover for the majority of the time.

00:50:50.000 I want to get into the Iranian strikes and the war in Lebanon because it's a big deal.

00:50:55.000 But just to recap very quickly, of course the strikes happened yesterday.

00:51:00.000 We weren't able to cover it because of the VP debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz.

00:51:06.000 It was hosted by CBS, I believe.

00:51:11.000 You know, my philosophy on presidential debates and elections in general is one, the debates don't matter that much.

00:51:21.000 So much is made in politics because it is an industry and the media plays a big role in it about conventions and debates and all this stuff.

00:51:32.000 It really doesn't matter that much.

00:51:34.000 The conventions don't have an impact.

00:51:36.000 The debates don't have an impact.

00:51:39.000 The vice presidential debate has, like, no impact.

00:51:42.000 That's one.

00:51:44.000 Two, when it comes to debates, there is this misconception that you're looking at the overall strength of the performance.

00:51:53.000 You're not.

00:51:54.000 To the extent that debates have impact, it's all about viral moments.

00:52:00.000 That's what it's all about.

00:52:01.000 It's all about memorable moments, clips, soundbites, and the general impression that is made, which is really more cosmetic than anything.

00:52:12.000 It's pretty superficial.

00:52:14.000 And so the technicals, the truth of the answers, the substance, those things don't really matter at all.

00:52:22.000 Just the way it is.

00:52:25.000 So with all that being said, I don't think there was a clear victor in the debate.

00:52:30.000 I think they both did fine.

00:52:32.000 I think Walls did fine.

00:52:33.000 I think Vance did fine.

00:52:35.000 I think that Vance was probably a little bit technically better.

00:52:39.000 He was a little slicker, a little bit more articulate, strong command of the facts.

00:52:45.000 But I think they're both articulate.

00:52:46.000 I think they both had a strong command of the facts or are both confident.

00:52:50.000 What people pointed out was two things.

00:52:52.000 In terms of the general sense of the debate, the general impression, the two things people pointed out is, one, the faces they were making.

00:53:02.000 And Walls had this deer-in-the-headlights look, which just goes to show he's not ready for a national stage.

00:53:11.000 And you see this.

00:53:12.000 The VP is tapped.

00:53:14.000 They don't win intense primary election process.

00:53:19.000 And so they get thrust from a statewide to a national stage and they're not ready in terms of retail politics,

00:53:29.000 in terms of the look and the feel.

00:53:32.000 So we look crazy.

00:53:34.000 He's going up on stage and he looks like this, look like shit.

00:53:39.000 And Vance kept making this face.

00:53:41.000 He kept looking at walls and then doing this side eye to the camera.

00:53:45.000 Some people thought that was funny.

00:53:47.000 Yeah, it was pretty funny.

00:53:48.000 you That's one.

00:53:50.000 Two, everybody noticed the conciliatory nature of the debate.

00:53:55.000 It was very civil.

00:53:56.000 They were agreeing with each other for much of the debate, and very agreeable in general.

00:54:03.000 It was very polite, and people pointed out that this is a stark contrast with Trump, where all of the debates are vicious, and personal, and ugly, and there's no handshake, and all that kind of stuff.

00:54:18.000 And people said, why can't all the debates be like this?

00:54:20.000 This is great, and so on.

00:54:23.000 Those were like the two general impressions of the debate.

00:54:27.000 Outside of that, there weren't any moments.

00:54:31.000 And I said, for the Trump-Kamala debate, the moment was cats and dogs.

00:54:37.000 The big moment, the big viral clip is when Trump said the Haitians are eating cats and dogs.

00:54:44.000 And you could see very clearly or measure impact based on the weight of the clip, because for one week after the debate, That's all anybody was talking about.

00:54:56.000 That is what was turned into a song.

00:54:58.000 That is what went viral on TikTok and on Twitter.

00:55:02.000 And then the issue surrounding it, which is immigration, is what dominated the discourse for a week.

00:55:08.000 And every conservative made the pilgrimage to Springfield, Ohio to get the scoop and do their man on the street and all that kind of stuff.

00:55:18.000 And it made the Republican issue, immigration, the central issue in the media.

00:55:24.000 And the inquiry about what was really going on, and the sensational aspect of it, it made it the center of the conversation.

00:55:33.000 And in that sense, it was a remarkable success.

00:55:36.000 And that moment is the defining moment of the debate series, and that gives Trump the advantage.

00:55:43.000 In this debate, there was no viral moment.

00:55:46.000 Neither of them really have a ton of style.

00:55:48.000 Neither of them are really that likable or charismatic.

00:55:52.000 They're pretty even-tempered and I don't know.

00:55:58.000 I don't think either of them left a really strong impression.

00:56:01.000 Neither of them really had a moment where they were at a loss for words or there was some catastrophic attack.

00:56:09.000 They weren't scoring home runs, in other words, on each other.

00:56:13.000 So I think it was basically a nothing.

00:56:15.000 I think it was a nothing debate.

00:56:17.000 If anything, it gave Vance and Walz an opportunity to introduce themselves to the country.

00:56:25.000 And I think Walz is appealing to Democrats, and I think Vance is appealing to Republicans, and I think that's about it.

00:56:33.000 And what I said last night, my big takeaway from the whole thing is that In regard to the conciliatory, agreeable tone of the debate, I think it's an enormous tactical mistake for Republicans to think that's a good thing.

00:56:53.000 Because let's not forget how we got here.

00:56:57.000 How did we get Trump, who is so aggressive according to the media and the left, who is so controversial and polarizing and all that, We got this way because the Democrats and the media demonized half the country.

00:57:16.000 That's how we got to Trump.

00:57:18.000 We had eight years of Obama.

00:57:21.000 Putting his feet on the desk and telling us that we're bitter, clinging to our guns and our Bibles.

00:57:28.000 We were subjected to years of being mocked, ridiculed, talked down to, called stupid, regressive, superstitious.

00:57:39.000 We were told that The way that our country was is just simply not how things are going to be.

00:57:45.000 We're being fundamentally transformed.

00:57:48.000 And basically, get with the program or get left behind.

00:57:51.000 That was the message of the entire elite in the country, led by the Democrats and the media.

00:57:58.000 Trump came on the stage and said a common sense message, which, by the way, the Democrats have adopted a lot of the Trump program with regard to the pivot to China, tariffs, withdrawing from the Middle East and ending those foreign wars, admitting they were a mistake, and even on some level with immigration, with some of these Democratic mayors.

00:58:22.000 Even they are saying it's too much under Biden.

00:58:26.000 But Trump came down the escalator, said common sense, and if you look at how he sounded back then, he was far more relaxed and I think even tempered and so on.

00:58:38.000 But look what happened to him for saying that illegal immigrants were committing rapes, which they were. 1.00

00:58:44.000 He got attacked in the media.

00:58:46.000 Got called a rapist.

00:58:47.000 A racist.

00:58:49.000 They said Russia stole the election.

00:58:51.000 They impeached him twice.

00:58:52.000 They investigated him.

00:58:53.000 They spied on Trump Tower with the FISA warrant.

00:58:57.000 They had the mail-in ballots.

00:58:59.000 They sabotaged his administration and Congress and the White House.

00:59:02.000 They shot him.

00:59:02.000 They charged him.

00:59:03.000 Like, this is what happened.

00:59:05.000 They censored all Republicans.

00:59:07.000 They beat the shit out of people wearing MAGA hats.

00:59:10.000 Called them extremists.

00:59:12.000 Like, so...

00:59:14.000 We're at this point now, 10 years into the Trump revolution, which is really an answer.

00:59:24.000 It's the antithesis of this new progressive left-wing consensus.

00:59:30.000 And now that we're kind of on the other side, where Trump was the answer to the excesses and the hubris.

00:59:37.000 Of the left.

00:59:39.000 And now you get Vance and Walz, who are kind of insulated in the second tier slot under Trump and Kamala, where the culture war is still raging.

00:59:49.000 And it's two white guys who are basically selected to appeal to white, culturally conservative voters in the Rust Belt.

00:59:57.000 And they agree on everything.

00:59:59.000 And people go, wow, why can't things be like this all the time?

01:00:04.000 And that's like a rhetorical question, but it's like, I'll tell you why.

01:00:07.000 It can't be like that all the time, because if Vance were at the top of the ticket, and even as the vice president at the second tier slot on the ticket, they would roast him for being a, and they have, for being weird, a creep, a sexist, a racist, all the above.

01:00:29.000 And if he were at the top of the ticket, they would be investigating him, they'd be trying to shoot him, they'd be doing all these kinds of things.

01:00:37.000 That's why.

01:00:38.000 That's why it can't be civil.

01:00:40.000 That's why there has to be mean tweets.

01:00:43.000 That's why we have to be provocative.

01:00:45.000 Because it's a fight.

01:00:47.000 And it's easy to forget sometimes that it is a fight.

01:00:51.000 Because this is what the enemy always does.

01:00:53.000 When they're winning, they press the advantage.

01:00:56.000 When they're winning, they're holding you by the hair and slitting your throat.

01:01:00.000 They're cutting your face off.

01:01:02.000 They're putting your head on a pike and putting that outside the city walls as a message to anybody. 1.00

01:01:08.000 They're nailing you to a cross.

01:01:10.000 When they have the advantage, they're ruthless.

01:01:14.000 When you're fighting back and you're winning.

01:01:17.000 When you're fighting back and you're controlling the frame and the conservative cultural message is becoming more popular and arguably winning.

01:01:26.000 Well, then they want to say, hey, why can't we all just be friends?

01:01:31.000 Why can't it always just be this friendly?

01:01:33.000 Because you're shooting at us, because you banned us from Twitter, because you charged the president, because, you know, for years, family members and friends excommunicated us because of who we were voting for, because we weren't down with every new iteration of Gay, trans, black, immigrant, refugee, this and that. 0.54

01:01:57.000 Like, we all know how it got here, but it seems like sometimes we forget.

01:02:02.000 And by the way, I will add this.

01:02:07.000 So that's in regard to the conciliatory nature.

01:02:10.000 I think it's a big mistake to drop our offensive position and just say, hey, let's go back to being friendly.

01:02:16.000 Here's something else.

01:02:18.000 If it gets too civil, which means that Republicans are dropping their attack and basically in a way surrendering or appeasing or conceding, we kind of lose that 10 out of 10 times.

01:02:33.000 Because if it were vans and walls at the top of the ticket, not only is there this tremendous hostility from the left, but the left controls all the institutions.

01:02:44.000 So it's easy to say, well, Vance is so articulate and so well-spoken, like he should be the model of what we should have in the GOP.

01:02:54.000 If he were at the top of the ticket doing these interviews, running for president, and so on, It would not be a cakewalk.

01:03:03.000 They would be vilifying him.

01:03:05.000 They would be demonizing him.

01:03:07.000 And they would be defining him inside of an information ecosystem that is already colored by a left-wing worldview.

01:03:13.000 You can't easily sidestep that he doesn't believe in climate change.

01:03:18.000 You can't easily sidestep that he's a Catholic that's pro-life.

01:03:22.000 You can't easily sidestep that he doesn't believe we should take all the guns.

01:03:27.000 If he were under the same pressure as Trump.

01:03:29.000 And that's kind of what he was allowed to get away with in the debate last night.

01:03:33.000 So...

01:03:36.000 This is part of this attitude which has been building in the right for a long time, which is to look at Trump, who is kind of like damaged goods, and say, Trump is this, in a way, his brand is a liability, and people blame him for it.

01:03:55.000 They say, Trump has this liability, he mobilizes the opposition, he has all these criminal charges and so on, And they blame him for it.

01:04:06.000 They say the reason Trump has all this baggage is because of mistakes he made.

01:04:13.000 And that's an error.

01:04:14.000 That's incorrect.

01:04:16.000 The reason that Trump has all the baggage is because Trump is a fighter who won fights.

01:04:23.000 Trump fought Controlled the frame, won the argument, won the election, mobilized the right wing, created an alternative vision, created a movement, and as such, he has been systematically targeted by the establishment.

01:04:40.000 And the baggage comes from that.

01:04:41.000 It comes from the fight.

01:04:43.000 In other words, if you go to war, and you go into the battlefield, and you win a bunch of military victories,

01:04:51.000 and then the other side tries to assassinate you, or they call you names, or maybe a bomb blows up

01:04:58.000 and you lose your arms and legs, and people look at you as a nugget,

01:05:02.000 people look at you as a quadriplegic, and they go, well, maybe if this guy was a little bit nicer,

01:05:10.000 he would still have his arms and legs.

01:05:12.000 You'd say, no, he lost his arms and legs because he went into battle and survived.

01:05:17.000 There's like a survivorship bias thing.

01:05:19.000 All these things have happened because he went in, fought, and survived,

01:05:24.000 not because of any mistake he made.

01:05:27.000 As a matter of fact, the people that don't survive, or the people that haven't been maimed, they either lost, or they never fought.

01:05:36.000 If you have no baggage, it means you didn't fight, or it means you're not in the conversation because your political career was ended because you never succeeded.

01:05:46.000 And so Trump is the product of 10 years of fighting and surviving.

01:05:52.000 And there's this attitude in the right, they say, if only we can get past Trump, or if only we could remedy the things we don't like about Trump.

01:06:02.000 And you call this Trumpism without Trump.

01:06:05.000 They say if only we could have Trump's policies without his personality or his baggage or who he is, then everything would be fine.

01:06:16.000 And that's wrong because if you had a fighter and a winner who is based, who is correct, who is right wing, they would undergo all the same trials.

01:06:26.000 And the difference is nobody is as strong as Trump.

01:06:30.000 Nobody has the instincts that Trump has.

01:06:33.000 Nobody has been a winning fighter like Trump has that kind of toughness for so long.

01:06:40.000 So people look at DeSantis.

01:06:43.000 People look advanced and they say, this is so appealing because they're lowering the temperature and they don't bring all of this polarization and controversy.

01:06:54.000 It's the wrong mindset.

01:06:56.000 If there's no fire, if there's no energy, if there's no, if you don't have scars and battle wounds, it means you're not really fighting.

01:07:06.000 And it means you're not really winning, and you're not really surviving.

01:07:09.000 So, the whole notion presented by that, I reject it completely.

01:07:14.000 It should be ugly.

01:07:16.000 It should be vicious.

01:07:17.000 Because the country is being murdered right now.

01:07:21.000 And you can't look across the aisle at the Democrats who brought in 10 million illegals in four years and say, well, you know, we basically agree. 0.71

01:07:30.000 It's like, no, we don't.

01:07:32.000 They're raping our country.

01:07:33.000 They hate who we are.

01:07:34.000 They don't believe in God.

01:07:36.000 I mean, it's like a despicable, disgusting, on the other side to have this mixed, blended family. 1.00

01:07:44.000 You know, they're bringing in all these immigrants.

01:07:46.000 We're at war with everybody.

01:07:48.000 They're shamelessly changing their policies, selling out to the highest bidder.

01:07:53.000 Like, yeah, you actually can't really co-sign that.

01:07:57.000 And I would argue even the same thing on the right.

01:08:00.000 You have people like these Zionists that they would sell our country out in an instant for Israel. 1.00

01:08:06.000 Can we really look at people like that and say, Oh, well, hey, man, we might disagree on some things, but put her there.

01:08:14.000 It's like, no, fuck those people.

01:08:16.000 Fuck these people bringing in Haitians to our neighborhoods, killing our kids, and they're emboldened. 1.00

01:08:24.000 I've had multiple people tell me, people that visited Springfield, Ohio, that the Haitians there, they walk around with their chest puffed out.

01:08:32.000 They think they own the place.

01:08:34.000 They walk around like these are our streets now.

01:08:36.000 They menace the journalists that came to investigate what's going on over there.

01:08:41.000 The Haitians are menacing them. 1.00

01:08:44.000 And they walk around with their fucking lizards on leashes, and they're eating cats and dogs, and they think they own the place.

01:08:51.000 And they hate us.

01:08:53.000 And they, you know, they're foreigners. 1.00

01:08:55.000 They're fucking stupid.

01:08:57.000 And they come here and they walk around like they own the place.

01:09:00.000 Democrats are bringing them in.

01:09:02.000 I don't care if you slap the facade of Coach Walls on all of that.

01:09:07.000 He's a hunter.

01:09:08.000 He coached a football team.

01:09:10.000 Fuck that piece of shit. 0.71

01:09:11.000 They're bringing in these people that are raping our country to death. 1.00

01:09:15.000 Fuck them.

01:09:16.000 Don't shake their hands.

01:09:17.000 Don't be nice to them.

01:09:19.000 Don't be saying, oh, we agree on a whole lot of things.

01:09:22.000 That's why I prefer Trump.

01:09:23.000 killing our country.

01:09:25.000 So you know, they want to turn the temperature down.

01:09:29.000 That's when you turn the temperature up.

01:09:30.000 That's when you press the advantage.

01:09:31.000 So that's why I prefer Trump.

01:09:33.000 That's why I prefer Trump's performance when Trump got up and said they're bringing cats

01:09:38.000 and dogs or they're eating cats and dogs and they're rapists. 0.99

01:09:42.000 We need that kind of rhetoric.

01:09:43.000 We need that intensity.

01:09:45.000 We need a light, a fire in the hearts of our own people to get serious about winning this war, because the stakes are super high.

01:09:52.000 It is irreconcilable differences, and we have to win.

01:09:57.000 Like, failure is not an option, or our race goes away.

01:10:03.000 So...

01:10:04.000 All these people in the TikTok comments saying, man, I wish all debates could be like this.

01:10:10.000 Why?

01:10:10.000 So we could be civil and polite while the rigged media and the rigged political system, which did steal the election, can put in place these corporate cronies that are going to bring in an army of non-white immigrants?

01:10:25.000 And we're just going to be polite about that?

01:10:28.000 Well, if we lose, we're going to put her there and go home and Like, yeah, I don't, no, I don't think so.

01:10:35.000 They did overthrow Trump.

01:10:37.000 They did fake the election.

01:10:38.000 They did bring in 10 million illegals.

01:10:41.000 They did send all our money overseas.

01:10:43.000 They are owned by foreign governments.

01:10:46.000 Fuck them!

01:10:46.000 Like, I'm sorry.

01:10:48.000 I don't care if you're a nice guy.

01:10:50.000 Aw, shucks.

01:10:52.000 They don't see us that way.

01:10:56.000 So anyway, so that's my position on the VP debate.

01:11:01.000 I want to move on.

01:11:01.000 I want to talk about the Iran strikes because we're already kind of running out of time here.

01:11:06.000 I want to make sure I get done within an hour so we could get on to our debate on Aidan Ross's stream.

01:11:14.000 So the big story tonight is about Iran's strike on Israel, which took place yesterday.

01:11:21.000 And so just to get into what happened yesterday, I'll read this story here from the New York Times.

01:11:28.000 It says, quote, media reports say Iran fired at least 180 ballistic missiles at Israel.

01:11:34.000 The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps has claimed that 90% of the missiles hit their targets, although Israel claims that most were intercepted.

01:11:43.000 Iran's Revolutionary Guard said the assault was retribution for the recent assassinations of leaders of Hezbollah and Hamas.

01:11:51.000 Iran's top military officer said the missiles were aimed at three military bases and the headquarters of Israel's Mossad intelligence service.

01:12:01.000 Video verified by the New York Times showed dozens of missiles exploding in different parts of Israel on Tuesday, including about a quarter mile from the Mossad headquarters.

01:12:11.000 Israel's military said an air force base sustained a few hits, but essential infrastructure had been spared.

01:12:18.000 Iran signaled that it is done attacking Israel but warned there would be a crushing response if Israel hits back.

01:12:25.000 Israeli officials have made clear that they plan to respond.

01:12:29.000 So, let's get into some more detail about the strikes.

01:12:34.000 So, the strikes that occurred yesterday were in retaliation for a series of assassinations.

01:12:42.000 Iran launched- Iran claims it was 400.

01:12:47.000 Israel says it was 181.

01:12:51.000 So there's a disagreement there.

01:12:53.000 We don't really know.

01:12:55.000 Iran says they launched 400 ballistic missiles at Israel.

01:13:01.000 At three military sites, as well as the Mossad headquarters, Iran says 90% of the missiles hit their target.

01:13:10.000 Israel says that almost none of them even landed.

01:13:13.000 Israel says that they, in conjunction with the United States and Jordan, intercepted almost all the missiles.

01:13:21.000 Iran said it was effective.

01:13:23.000 Iran says that they did damage on the military infrastructure.

01:13:27.000 Israel says there was hardly any damage at all.

01:13:31.000 And so, differences aside, let's talk about the strike itself.

01:13:36.000 So the Iranian Revolutionary Guard said that this strike was in response to the killing of an Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps general In the past week, in response to the killing of Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, on Friday, and the killing of Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, in late July.

01:13:59.000 And so they say, in other words, that this is a long time coming.

01:14:02.000 This goes all the way back to July.

01:14:04.000 And they say that it's not a gesture, it's not deterrence, it's a counterattack.

01:14:12.000 And let's talk also a little bit about the means with which they carried out the attack.

01:14:17.000 This attack was comprised 100% of ballistic missiles.

01:14:23.000 Iran claims they're hypersonic ballistic missiles.

01:14:25.000 It's the first time they're using them against Israel.

01:14:28.000 A lot of people say, well, why didn't Israel just shoot them down with the Iron Dome?

01:14:33.000 Israel has a few different anti-missile systems.

01:14:37.000 They have Arrow 3, David's Sling, and Iron Dome.

01:14:42.000 Misconception about Iron Dome is that it's only intended for slower moving rockets which are coming from Iraq or Lebanon launched by Shiite militias there.

01:14:52.000 Hezbollah in Iraq, Popular Immobilization Forces, or Hezbollah in Lebanon.

01:14:58.000 Iron Dome would not be used against ballistic missiles.

01:15:01.000 They say it was probably Arrow 3, maybe David's Sling, and it was significantly less effective because ballistic missiles travel faster.

01:15:11.000 So this is the second time Iran has hit Israel.

01:15:14.000 The first time back in April, Iran sent suicide drones in combination with crews and ballistic missiles.

01:15:22.000 The reason this matters is because drones take about six hours to get from Iran to Israel.

01:15:29.000 And that means that there's a warning time.

01:15:33.000 So back in April when Iran struck Israel with drones and missiles, they gave two weeks of lead time, they warned Western officials it was coming, and they started the salvo with drones, meaning that Israel could see them coming and they could coordinate their defense and they could shoot them down more easily.

01:15:54.000 Then the ballistic and cruise missiles came later.

01:15:57.000 And the reason why they did that in April is because they wanted Israel to shoot them all down.

01:16:03.000 They told Israel when and where the projectiles would land, and they started with the drones first so that Israel could be more successful in intercepting them.

01:16:15.000 And he might say, well, why would Iran want Israel to foil its attack?

01:16:21.000 Because if Iran hit all its targets in April and damaged critical infrastructure or killed people, it would escalate the conflict and Israel would be forced to attack Iran directly, which Iran did not want.

01:16:36.000 Iran wanted to maintain deterrence, meaning that if Iran gets hit, Iran hits back.

01:16:42.000 But they wanted to do that without forcing Israel to counter-counterattack and instigate a tit-for-tat series of reprisals.

01:16:52.000 This time, Iran hit with ballistic missiles only, which take 12 minutes rather than 6 hours.

01:17:00.000 It takes 12 minutes for one of these hypersonic ballistic missiles to go from Iran to Israel, compared to six hours with a suicide drone.

01:17:09.000 This time, they didn't give Western officials a lot of notice.

01:17:13.000 They told Switzerland, and so they gave some notice, but not a ton.

01:17:17.000 And the purpose was so that the missiles would actually break through the anti-missile defensive shield, which they did.

01:17:25.000 And I believe Hezbollah Rather, Iran, who says that 90% of the missiles hit their targets.

01:17:33.000 Case in point, today Israel obfuscated the satellite imagery of their military bases using digitally created clouds to hide the damage that was done to the bases.

01:17:45.000 So clearly, damage did occur, meaning the missiles hit their targets, meaning they penetrated the shield.

01:17:53.000 Here's something that matters, though, about the way in which they hit the targets.

01:17:58.000 Israel says that although some of their infrastructure was hit, they said the critical infrastructure, essential infrastructure, was undamaged.

01:18:09.000 And so what Iran did with the strikes is, for example, in the case of the Mossad base, they hit within a quarter of a mile of the actual base.

01:18:19.000 They didn't actually hit the base directly.

01:18:22.000 The reason they did that is because, once again, Like back in April, if the projectiles landed, it might

01:18:31.000 invite Israel to respond.

01:18:32.000 So Iran allowed Israel to intercept them. This time, Iran did not give enough time or information

01:18:40.000 for Israel and the United States to intercept the missiles.

01:18:43.000 But when the missiles landed, they landed with precision very near to critical

01:18:49.000 infrastructure, but not actually damaging critical infrastructure.

01:18:53.000 They did hit three key military bases and the Mossad headquarters, but not in the places and the facilities that actually matter.

01:19:04.000 So you might say, well, why would they actually land but not hit the critical parts?

01:19:10.000 of the bases or the Mossad headquarters.

01:19:13.000 Because this time, they wanted to demonstrate that their missiles can pierce the shield, that Iran could send 100 missiles every hour for 96 hours, and if they gave no warning, they would pierce the shield and they would hit with precision. 0.66

01:19:31.000 And the message is thus, if you mess with us, we can hit you, we can break your defensive shield, we can hit you with precision, we could do a lot of damage, and we could sustain the barrage for a long period of time.

01:19:46.000 And if we so chose, we could hit your Air Force runways so your fighters have nowhere to land after they strike Iran and Syria. 0.91

01:19:55.000 We could hit your electrical grid, which would set you back years.

01:19:58.000 You couldn't be electrified for two years if we took down your electrical grid.

01:20:03.000 We could hit Dimona in southern Israel and create a nuclear catastrophe.

01:20:08.000 That was the message. So the projectiles landed, they hit bases, but not the critical parts,

01:20:14.000 and that was to demonstrate precision and penetration. And that's what they did in this

01:20:20.000 round of attacks. That's actually the nature of the attack itself. And like I said, they did it

01:20:26.000 in response to this huge escalation against Hezbollah in Lebanon, which Israel has initiated

01:20:34.000 in the past couple of weeks.

01:20:37.000 And like I said, this is a long time overdue.

01:20:40.000 So, the other major Iranian strike against Israel took place in April.

01:20:46.000 In April, April 1st, Israel attacked the Iranian consulate building in Damascus, Syria.

01:20:52.000 They killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guard generals.

01:20:57.000 It's a major diplomatic faux pas.

01:21:00.000 It's like a crime.

01:21:02.000 You cannot bomb embassies.

01:21:03.000 You cannot bomb consulates.

01:21:05.000 They're considered off-limits in terms of the laws of war and the foundational international conventions which created the UN and everything like that.

01:21:14.000 So Israel bombed Iran's consulate in Damascus, killed some high-ranking generals.

01:21:20.000 Two weeks later, like I said, Iran bombed Israel.

01:21:24.000 And this has been a part of a pattern where Israel does these very provocative actions. 0.75

01:21:30.000 They know it demands a response.

01:21:33.000 Because consider, Israel carries out airstrikes in Syria and Lebanon and Iraq and Yemen these days with regularity.

01:21:41.000 And they're deadly.

01:21:42.000 And they're frequent.

01:21:44.000 What Israel has been doing is carrying out very, in their nature, provocative types of attacks. 0.67

01:21:52.000 They sponsored a terrorist attack in January in Iran on the anniversary of the death of Soleimani.

01:21:59.000 They bombed a consulate in Syria, killing Iranian Revolutionary Guard generals.

01:22:04.000 And then back in July, they killed a commander of Hezbollah in Beirut.

01:22:10.000 And the day after, they killed the political leader of Hamas in Iran's capital in Tehran.

01:22:16.000 But they didn't just kill a guest.

01:22:20.000 Arguably a head of government inside of Iran's capital, but they did it on the inauguration day of Iran's new president, after their previous president died in a helicopter crash earlier in the year.

01:22:32.000 It's an extremely provocative move.

01:22:35.000 And what Iran has been doing all year with these provocative types of attacks, which demand Iran to retaliate, is they're inviting Iran to attack them.

01:22:47.000 Because Israel wants a direct confrontation with Iran. 0.81

01:22:51.000 Israel has been fighting Iran's proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, popular mobilization forces in Iraq, the Houthis in Yemen.

01:23:01.000 But Israel wants to fight Iran directly. 0.58

01:23:04.000 More specifically, they want Iran to attack Israel. 0.62

01:23:08.000 And they want Iran to attack Israel because that gives Israel an excuse to bomb Iran.

01:23:16.000 And you might say, well, why wouldn't Israel just bomb Iran anyway? 0.97

01:23:20.000 Israel needs the United States to support them bombing Iran. 0.91

01:23:26.000 Iran is very far away from Israel.

01:23:28.000 And so although Israel theoretically has the capability with modern fighters to strike deep into Iranian territory, they would need political assent and maybe logistical support from the United States to carry out comprehensive strikes on Iran's oil and gas or nuclear facilities.

01:23:48.000 They need permission and they need support.

01:23:52.000 And the United States does not want a confrontation or regime change with Iran, so the United States is reluctant to give them that permission and that support.

01:24:04.000 So Israel has undertaken a very obvious, very deliberate policy of antagonizing Iran, daring them to attack them in order to draw Iran into a direct conflict.

01:24:17.000 And in the event that Israel and Iran are routinely and directly fighting, the odds of the United States intervening directly or backing Israel bombing Iran goes up.

01:24:29.000 And so, for example, when there was a terrorist attack in January in Iran on the anniversary of Soleimani's death, Iran Couldn't blame Israel.

01:24:40.000 The United States reassured the world Israel wasn't responsible. 0.95

01:24:44.000 They blamed it on ISIS.

01:24:46.000 But Iran retaliated in a very telling way by bombing a Mossad base in Syria.

01:24:53.000 They bombed ISIS in Syria.

01:24:55.000 They bombed a Mossad base in northern Iraq, in Iraqi Kurdistan.

01:24:59.000 And they bombed an Israeli-backed Balochistan separatist group in southwestern Pakistan.

01:25:07.000 Then in April, Israel bombed the consulate building.

01:25:10.000 The United States intervened.

01:25:12.000 They deployed assets to the region to prevent Iran from retaliating.

01:25:16.000 And Iran did a highly telegraphed attack that did no damage to Israel. 0.65

01:25:21.000 They were able to save face while also reestablishing deterrence.

01:25:27.000 And then the United States convinced Israel not to reply.

01:25:30.000 But this is where things changed.

01:25:33.000 In July, Israel killed the high-ranking Hezbollah general in Beirut.

01:25:39.000 Then they went and killed the leader of Hamas in Tehran.

01:25:43.000 And that had two purposes.

01:25:45.000 One, it derailed the ceasefire talks for Gaza.

01:25:48.000 But two, it dared Iran to retaliate because it embarrassed them, it provoked them, and it directly attacked them.

01:25:56.000 Iran said after those strikes that they would reply swiftly, quickly.

01:26:03.000 They said that their attack would cross all red lines and may risk a war with Israel.

01:26:09.000 And it never occurred.

01:26:11.000 Iran said they were going to hit Israel back hard, quickly, and they said knowingly, we're going to cross Israel's red lines and it may risk a war, but we don't care. 0.88

01:26:23.000 It was in that moment that the United States deployed two dozen warships, including two aircraft carriers, to the Middle East.

01:26:31.000 And the United States basically said, if you cross Israel's red lines, if you bomb Israel in such a way that it would do real damage and invite a real war between Israel and Iran, then we will intervene on the side of Israel and we will bomb you.

01:26:50.000 We will bomb Iran. 1.00

01:26:53.000 So Iran, in the face of the deterrent threat from the United States, declined to respond.

01:27:00.000 But there was also another reason that Iran didn't reply.

01:27:03.000 At that time, Israel was escalating its attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Hezbollah is a key part of Iran's forces in the region.

01:27:12.000 Iran, like I said, is very far away from Israel, and the only way that Iran can touch Israel is with long-range missiles, which they don't have a ton of, and which Israel and the United States and Arab partners are able to shoot down and intercept some of those.

01:27:30.000 So Iran is sort of at a disadvantage when it fights Israel because it is so far away.

01:27:36.000 So what Iran relies upon to fight Israel or to pressure Israel are its proxies, who are far closer. 0.59

01:27:43.000 Hezbollah is on its border, its northern border, in Lebanon.

01:27:47.000 And Hezbollah has 100,000 fighters, 150,000 cheap short-range rockets that are very easy 0.96

01:27:55.000 to produce and very inexpensive and which they can lob over and create pressure on the

01:28:01.000 Israeli armed forces, especially as they're trying to fight in Gaza.

01:28:05.000 So when Israel was ratcheting up its fighting against Hezbollah in Lebanon, the United States gave an assurance to Iran and said, if you don't retaliate against those assassinations in late July, then we will bring Israel to the table and get them to agree to a ceasefire.

01:28:25.000 We will stop Israel's fighting with Hezbollah and we'll stop Israel's fighting in Gaza.

01:28:32.000 And it was for those two reasons that Iran did not retaliate.

01:28:35.000 The January terrorist attack, Iran retaliated and re-established deterrence.

01:28:43.000 In April, when Israel carried out their attack on the embassy, Iran escalated their reprisal and re-established deterrence.

01:28:52.000 In late July, when Israel carried out its most provocative, audacious strike to date, Iran was ready to once again escalate and deliver the biggest counterattack yet. 0.72

01:29:04.000 But they were forced out of it for two reasons.

01:29:08.000 The deterrent threat from an unprecedented number of US warships in the region and a commitment from the Biden administration that they would get Israel to stop their fight with Hezbollah and to create a ceasefire in Gaza.

01:29:24.000 And Iran agreed. 0.89

01:29:26.000 So the whole month of August went by.

01:29:29.000 The whole month of September went by, and even though Iran said they would retaliate, they didn't.

01:29:36.000 And they kept saying they would retaliate, and they kept saying, well, you know, maybe making Israel wait is the punishment.

01:29:45.000 And they were pressed, and they said, well, we'll retaliate eventually, but it didn't happen.

01:29:49.000 So Israel took that as a sign of weakness.

01:29:53.000 They said if we're able to bomb and assassinate the leader of Hamas in Iran's capital on Inauguration Day, and they don't counterattack, they said we can get away with anything.

01:30:06.000 So, two weeks ago, Israel dramatically escalated their fighting against Hezbollah in Lebanon.

01:30:13.000 First with the Pager attack, then the second cyber attack the following day.

01:30:18.000 They started doing far more airstrikes, including not only in South Lebanon, but in the suburbs of Beirut.

01:30:25.000 They assassinated the entire leadership of Hezbollah, including the leader, Hassan Nasrallah.

01:30:30.000 And then, on Monday, Israel invaded Lebanon.

01:30:35.000 And not only did Israel invade Lebanon, but they did so at the behest of the United States.

01:30:43.000 It was confirmed by Politico today that the Biden administration, specifically the two shadow advisors running Middle East policy, which are Brett McGurk and Amos Hochstein, with the approval of the United States, Israel invaded Lebanon.

01:31:02.000 And Iran said, OK. 0.66

01:31:04.000 So the United States comes in and says, if we don't counterattack, then we'll convince Israel to stop the war.

01:31:12.000 Come to find out, two months later, Iran held up their end of the bargain. 0.53

01:31:16.000 But the United States is encouraging Israel to escalate.

01:31:20.000 They're not only not bringing Israel to the table for a ceasefire, but they're encouraging Israel to escalate. 0.67

01:31:27.000 So Iran finally had enough, and then yesterday delivered the long-awaited, and in my opinion, overdue reprisal by bombing Israel, although not dealing any significant damage. 0.95

01:31:42.000 And give me one second, Sneko's texting me.

01:31:44.000 I don't know.

01:31:49.000 They said 11 or 10 o'clock.

01:31:50.000 Now they're texting me at 9.

01:31:52.000 Hey, I'm doing my show.

01:31:55.000 Give me...

01:31:59.000 You gotta love that shit, right?

01:32:02.000 They said, uh... I'm trying, I'm delivering an all-time monologue on this regional war with all these pieces and I got Sneeko texting me, yo, what's your discord?

01:32:11.000 We said 10.

01:32:12.000 We said 10 Central Time, 11 Eastern Time.

01:32:15.000 Anyway, he says no problem, okay.

01:32:18.000 So anyway, so finally Iran retaliated yesterday.

01:32:23.000 And by the way, what you heard in the media, what you heard in the Israel-controlled Zionist media, is that Iran attacked Israel.

01:32:34.000 You hear the number one state sponsor of terrorism attacked Israel and pray for Israel and we back Israel in the battle of good versus evil.

01:32:46.000 But it's like, hang on a second.

01:32:47.000 Iran is defending itself.

01:32:52.000 Israel committed acts of terrorism inside Iran's capital.

01:32:57.000 They killed the civilian leader of a foreign government.

01:33:01.000 What is, you know, de facto.

01:33:05.000 They're giving their inaugural address In Washington, on Capitol Hill, in front of everybody.

01:33:12.000 Imagine if a building in Washington, D.C.

01:33:15.000 exploded, and a foreign head of state that was visiting our country died.

01:33:20.000 Like, let's say the president of Taiwan was in the United States, in D.C., on Inauguration Day, and China blew up his hotel while the inaugural address was being given.

01:33:36.000 Can you imagine any scenario where the United States doesn't counterattack?

01:33:41.000 Can you imagine any scenario where the United States doesn't retaliate?

01:33:46.000 And would the United States be within its rights if we're being reasonable to do so?

01:33:53.000 Of course we would.

01:33:54.000 There's no scenario where we wouldn't retaliate.

01:33:57.000 And of course we'd be within our rights.

01:33:59.000 We'd be defending ourselves.

01:34:01.000 But according to the media, if we retaliated, we'd be attacking.

01:34:06.000 We'd be aggressive.

01:34:08.000 But that's exactly what happened with Iran. 0.68

01:34:12.000 And the reason they didn't, in addition to the two aircraft carriers off their coast, is that the United States committed that if they didn't reply, they would make peace in Gaza, which is directly connected to the fighting in Lebanon.

01:34:28.000 And not only did they break their promise on that, but they did the exact opposite.

01:34:32.000 They encouraged Israel to assassinate the leadership of Hezbollah and then to invade.

01:34:38.000 So, you know, when we're talking about geopolitics, these concepts like who's right and what's fair, they kind of go out the window, but it is worth saying that Iran, contrary to its caricaturization in the media, it's not an irrational state.

01:34:57.000 People say it's a terror state run by religious fanatics.

01:35:02.000 It's really not.

01:35:04.000 Would suicidal religious fanatics, religious zealots, who are completely irrational, who seek only the death of Israel at any cost, even of the existence of their own country, would they allow their ally to get killed on their soil and then take it on the chin?

01:35:22.000 And then, when they were backstabbed and the United States does the opposite and they're under attack again, would they conduct an attack that doesn't kill anybody deliberately?

01:35:34.000 That would be like the worst suicidal, irrational, religious zealot state ever.

01:35:42.000 They do a counterattack that is telegraphed and nearly misses all the critical infrastructure to merely send a diplomatic message?

01:35:50.000 I don't know about you, but that sounds like a rational calculation.

01:35:54.000 That sounds like an extremely calibrated, rational, measured response in a very tricky diplomatic situation between two rational states.

01:36:06.000 Arguably one, although it's not the one you think.

01:36:09.000 So that's what took place The other day.

01:36:13.000 Now here's the reaction.

01:36:15.000 So Israel has said that they are going to they're going to follow through with a crushing counterattack.

01:36:23.000 And that is really the big question.

01:36:25.000 So Israel killed all these leaders.

01:36:28.000 They killed the leader of Hamas in Tehran in late July.

01:36:32.000 They killed the leader of Hezbollah on Friday.

01:36:35.000 They killed an IRGC commander in the past week.

01:36:38.000 They invaded Lebanon. 0.99

01:36:40.000 Iran bombed Israel, killed nobody, arguably 181 to 400 ballistic missiles.

01:36:47.000 Now the question is, what will Israel do in response?

01:36:51.000 And there's a menu of options.

01:36:53.000 And the menu of options, to be general about it, are, are they going to hit Iran or not?

01:37:01.000 Those are the two big categories.

01:37:03.000 How will Israel retaliate against Iran? 0.72

01:37:06.000 Will they attack Iran itself or will they attack Iran's proxies in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Yemen?

01:37:17.000 And then within those, there are questions.

01:37:19.000 If they are going to attack Iran, how will they attack Iran and where?

01:37:24.000 Will they attack Iran's nuclear complex?

01:37:27.000 Iran has a civilian nuclear program, which could be converted into a weapons program.

01:37:32.000 It comprises five major cities, and it's spread out over the country.

01:37:37.000 You've got Natanz, Iraq, Bashir. 0.97

01:37:42.000 Isfahan and Fordow.

01:37:45.000 And some of those are more easily targeted than others.

01:37:47.000 Some of them are deep inside the mountains and deep underground.

01:37:50.000 They would require bunker-busting bombs, huge munitions to penetrate deep beneath the surface.

01:37:57.000 It would be a very dramatic attack.

01:37:59.000 And it would hit at one of Iran's strategic capabilities, which is its ability to create enriched uranium, uranium enrichment and other things.

01:38:08.000 So do they hit Iran's nuclear complex and destroy that strategic capability?

01:38:13.000 That would be the most dramatic option.

01:38:16.000 Option two is does Israel hit Iran's oil and gas refineries?

01:38:22.000 Do they hit the island in the Persian Gulf?

01:38:27.000 They're calling it, I think it's Karg Island, which is where 90% of Iran's oil is exported through.

01:38:34.000 Do they hit Iran's oil and gas refineries on the coast of the Persian Gulf?

01:38:39.000 Do they close the Strait of Hormuz from which that oil flows out into the Indian Ocean and the Gulf of Oman?

01:38:48.000 And in doing so, by damaging Iran's oil and gas facilities, cripple what amounts to 70% of Iran's government revenue and destroy their economy.

01:38:57.000 Those would be the two big strategic targets inside of Iran, the nuclear complex and the oil and gas.

01:39:04.000 The nuclear complex would, again, set back their major strategic capability, which is really the center of the politics of Iran for 20 years.

01:39:14.000 Or do they hit oil and gas and cripple their economy, which also has a strategic impact?

01:39:19.000 If they don't hit Iran, then it would have to be a very intense bombing of its proxies because Israel already bombs Iran's proxies. 0.56

01:39:29.000 Israel's carried out airstrikes in Damascus the past two days.

01:39:33.000 Thousands of airstrikes in southern Lebanon and inside of downtown Beirut, the city center of Beirut in the past day, which they don't normally do.

01:39:44.000 Carrying out strikes in the suburbs of Beirut and Dahiya.

01:39:48.000 Carried out a second strike at the port of Hodeidah in Yemen recently.

01:39:52.000 So Israel's been carrying out strikes against the proxies.

01:39:55.000 If it was limited only to the proxies, it would have to be a very intense and big and thorough attack to send a message.

01:40:06.000 So the Biden administration said today that they will not support an attack on Iran's nuclear complex.

01:40:14.000 And Israel has said they're not going to attack Iran's nuclear complex.

01:40:18.000 Biden said they won't directly participate in the retaliation against Iran,

01:40:23.000 but they'll support it in other ways. And the G7 is applying new sanctions to Iran.

01:40:28.000 Israel says that they will be striking Iran's proxies, most likely in Syria,

01:40:33.000 at least, and Lebanon. And so this is what, this is the our emerging picture of what the strikes will

01:40:40.000 look like.

01:40:41.000 It's most likely a very big attack on the proxies, maybe in Syria, maybe in Yemen, maybe somehow a major escalation in Lebanon, and perhaps not a direct airstrike on Iran.

01:40:56.000 Although I don't think it's totally outside the question.

01:40:59.000 But if it does occur, it won't be the nuclear complex.

01:41:04.000 And the question after that, of course, is will Iran retaliate against Israel for those strikes?

01:41:12.000 If Israel attacks Iran directly, I think it's a guarantee. 1.00

01:41:16.000 If Israel attacks Iran's oil and gas, then Iran almost certainly will counterattack, and they will have to escalate, which means their missiles will have to hit their targets, which imperils Israel.

01:41:33.000 And so the very, if it's a given, that in the scenario where Iran is hit directly, its strategic oil and gas is hit, that Iran will bomb Israel's critical infrastructure and hit the targets, and if that imperils Israel, it guarantees that the United States would have to step in. 0.57

01:41:52.000 Because the United States, although it isn't a treaty ally of Israel, will not allow Israel to be imperiled as a state.

01:41:59.000 So it almost certainly guarantees that the United States would get involved in the conflict at that point directly.

01:42:06.000 And that is what Iran does not want to happen.

01:42:10.000 So this is where we are.

01:42:11.000 If Israel bombs Iran, Iran has to bomb Israel, the United States gets involved.

01:42:19.000 If Israel hits Iran's proxies, probably Iran will not retaliate directly.

01:42:24.000 Its proxies might retaliate.

01:42:27.000 And that's where we are in the larger conflict.

01:42:31.000 And it's all really about weighing the different capabilities, the willingness of the United States to intervene, and we must keep in mind the ultimate objective of Israel, which I think is In the long run, maybe not imminently, but in the long run, I think their strategic goal is to defeat Hezbollah first and then draw in Iran to that conflict where the United States will eventually support or green light the destruction of Iran's nuclear complex.

01:43:01.000 I think that's the endgame.

01:43:03.000 But in order to get there, Israel first has to take out Hezbollah. 0.91

01:43:07.000 And that's what they're doing right now.

01:43:09.000 So we're going to shift gears a little bit and talk about the incursion into Lebanon.

01:43:13.000 We'll cover it briefly.

01:43:14.000 I'll get through as many super chats as I can, and then I got to get out of here.

01:43:19.000 But that brings me to the news in Lebanon.

01:43:22.000 So as you know, Israel invaded Lebanon on Monday, although that is denied by the Lebanese government in Hezbollah.

01:43:30.000 They say the border has not been penetrated anywhere.

01:43:33.000 But Israel says it has conducted cross-border raids and has begun some operations on the border.

01:43:40.000 And so the news today from Lebanon is that Israel is conducting special operations and eight of their officers in the special forces were killed in an ambush on the border.

01:43:53.000 And this is a story.

01:43:56.000 It says, quote, Israel said Wednesday that eight of its soldiers have been killed fighting Hezbollah on the ground in South Lebanon as the Israeli invasion is underway.

01:44:06.000 The IDF said the troops were killed in a gun battle with Hezbollah in a village in southern Lebanon.

01:44:12.000 The Israeli soldiers were commandos in the elite EGOS unit, and their squad commander was among those killed.

01:44:18.000 According to Reuters, the Israeli military said that regular troops and armored divisions would be joining the commandos in the fight in southern Lebanon.

01:44:26.000 That means an invasion, by the way.

01:44:29.000 The engineers and the commandos and intelligence agents are there to take out tunnels, map out defensive fortifications, things like that, and then the armor and the regular forces move in.

01:44:44.000 It says, Hezbollah also said that its forces destroyed three Israeli tanks near a Lebanese border town one kilometer from the Israeli border.

01:44:55.000 Later in the day, Al Jazeera reported that Hezbollah said its forces surveilled an Israeli unit, another border town, and detonated explosives in a building where Israeli troops were located.

01:45:06.000 Hezbollah claimed all members of the unit were killed, but didn't specify how many.

01:45:11.000 Hezbollah also said its forces were able to repel Israeli troops from advancing in other areas of southern Lebanon.

01:45:19.000 So this gets back to The balance in the region.

01:45:24.000 So again, it all comes down to capability.

01:45:28.000 Iran does not have a modern air force.

01:45:31.000 And thus, Iran cannot touch Israel across Iraq, across Syria, across Jordan, Lebanon, in any way other than its ballistic missiles. 0.77

01:45:44.000 And not even all of them, but only certain classes of ballistic missiles that have a range which encompasses all of Israeli territory.

01:45:52.000 So Iran is a bit limited in what it is able to do to Israel.

01:45:57.000 Israel, on the other hand, has a modern air force, which is furnished by the United States.

01:46:03.000 They also have ballistic missiles.

01:46:05.000 They have submarine missiles, so they have a second strike capability.

01:46:10.000 They have a nuclear arsenal.

01:46:12.000 And they have full intelligence penetration of Iran, as evidenced by recent terror attacks and infiltration of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

01:46:21.000 So, Israel really has a lot of ability to hurt Iran. 0.57

01:46:25.000 But where Iran's power against Israel comes from is its biggest proxy, which is Hezbollah, in Lebanon on Israel's northern border.

01:46:35.000 They have a lot of fighters, they have a lot of missiles, they're well-trained, and what history has shown is that Israel is not able to effectively fight Hezbollah.

01:46:46.000 And here's the thing.

01:46:48.000 Israel can bomb South Lebanon, and they have. 0.99

01:46:52.000 And Israel can carry out what are called effects-based operations.

01:46:57.000 That's a military doctrine.

01:46:59.000 And that means they can take out Hezbollah's communications network by bombing their pagers. 0.98

01:47:05.000 Israel can assassinate the leadership. 0.77

01:47:07.000 And the doctrine of effects-based operations means that they try to disable the opposing army without actually fighting them.

01:47:16.000 If they can take out the command center, if they could take out the communications, if they could disable and disorganize the enemy forces before the battle, then they don't really need to effectively fight them on the ground because they'll already be disabled before the battle starts.

01:47:36.000 And it is widely believed in the military community That reliance on that doctrine of effects-based operations is what led to Israel's defeat in South Lebanon in the 1990s and in their war with Hezbollah in 2006, which only lasted a month, and where there were very high Israeli casualties.

01:47:58.000 Because what happens is, Israel has air superiority. 0.92

01:48:02.000 Israel has a modern air force, so they can bomb Lebanon with impunity. 0.96

01:48:08.000 There's no contest.

01:48:10.000 And Israel has superior intelligence and technical capabilities, technical wizardry.

01:48:16.000 So they can intercept Hezbollah's pagers and blow them up, and they can assassinate the leadership, and all these kinds of things. 0.66

01:48:23.000 But what history has demonstrated in Israel's occupation of Lebanon from 82 to 2000 and in the war in 2006 is that it's

01:48:31.000 not enough.

01:48:34.000 In both of those conflicts, Israel bombed Hezbollah.

01:48:37.000 Israel assassinated their leadership.

01:48:40.000 Israel had superior intelligence.

01:48:43.000 But when Israel fought Hezbollah on the ground, when they invaded, when the tanks and the troops moved in, they were not able to effectively win battles against Hezbollah fighters.

01:48:55.000 Hezbollah has superior tactics.

01:48:57.000 Their people are better trained.

01:48:59.000 They're using cheaper munitions.

01:49:01.000 And so, for example, Hezbollah, using very cheap anti-tank weaponry, was able to destroy Israeli tanks.

01:49:08.000 And Israeli tank commanders were not experienced and able to effectively counter that.

01:49:14.000 So Israel lost a lot of armor.

01:49:17.000 And when Israel is fighting a conventional army, a conventional force that is able to hold defensive positions, they're not able to win engagements.

01:49:26.000 And so it doesn't matter that they can bomb because, for example, South Lebanon is a heavily wooded area, densely wooded area.

01:49:35.000 Hezbollah's rockets that they launch into Israel, they're all over Lebanon, they're deep in the north as well, and they're highly mobile.

01:49:44.000 So they don't need to set up a big launching system.

01:49:48.000 They can move them around with ease, and they're not easily photographed with surveillance, and Hezbollah's very good at creating decoys. 1.00

01:49:55.000 So Israel can drop a lot of bombs in the woods, but Hezbollah's moved their rockets by the time the bombs land, and Israel can't effectively photograph them from the air.

01:50:06.000 And when they do, sometimes as decoys.

01:50:09.000 And so this is where, you know, for example, like in Yemen, the United States has missile cruisers off the coast of Yemen in the Red Sea, They can't do anything to the Houthis, because the Houthis are just running around with highly mobile rockets, and by the time the missiles hit, they're gone.

01:50:26.000 So we, the United States, cannot effectively fight the Houthis.

01:50:30.000 The Israeli Air Force cannot effectively fight Hezbollah.

01:50:34.000 They have to beat them on the ground, and they're unable to do that.

01:50:38.000 So, as such, Hezbollah has existed on Israel's northern border and exerts pressure on Israel.

01:50:45.000 They effectively cannot be defeated using ordinary means.

01:50:51.000 They cannot be defeated in a ground engagement because Israel's army isn't that good. 0.93

01:50:55.000 And so they're able to launch rockets into Israel and put pressure on Israel in that way. 0.50

01:51:01.000 Israel can't send all of its forces into Gaza because a lot of them are up in the north 0.65

01:51:07.000 deterring and fighting Hezbollah and they can't invade because if they invade, they'll 0.95

01:51:12.000 probably lose.

01:51:14.000 So if Israel is able to touch Iran with intelligence, air missiles, nukes, then Iran is able to 0.94

01:51:22.000 touch Israel with short range rockets fired by Hezbollah.

01:51:28.000 So Hezbollah is a huge part of Iran's capability and their projection of power against Israel. 0.72

01:51:34.000 Israel's been bombing Hezbollah.

01:51:36.000 Now they're invading Lebanon to decisively defeat them. 0.96

01:51:40.000 And a lot of people said it was a huge triumph when Israel killed Nasrallah and when Israel's been conducting these big airstrikes and their cyber attacks.

01:51:50.000 But this is their third day in Lebanon and they lost eight officers.

01:51:57.000 And they lost eight officers in border towns because they got ambushed by Hezbollah.

01:52:04.000 And this is just a little preview of what's to come.

01:52:06.000 This is like, they moved in on Monday.

01:52:09.000 Today's Wednesday.

01:52:11.000 And the tanks haven't gone in, the regular forces haven't gone in.

01:52:15.000 These are commandos.

01:52:16.000 And they go into a house and Hezbollah blows it up.

01:52:20.000 And they blow up three tanks.

01:52:23.000 And if this is the kind of fighting that will go on in Lebanon, then Israel is strapped in for a very intense war with high casualties.

01:52:31.000 It will last a long time.

01:52:33.000 And it goes to show that the assassinations, the airstrikes, as long as Hezbollah is able to keep up the barrage of rockets, and as long as they're able to keep up their defensive fortifications, they will not be decisively defeated. 0.78

01:52:47.000 And if that's the case, they will still exert pressure on Israel.

01:52:51.000 They'll still prevent Israel from confidently engaging Iran in a real war. 0.64

01:52:56.000 Because if they fight Iran, Iran can instruct Hezbollah to drop 100,000 bombs on Israel, which would overwhelm the Iron Dome. 0.73

01:53:04.000 And so this is the state of the conflict right now.

01:53:08.000 Israel's ratcheting it up with Iran, but they're focusing right now on Hezbollah, trying to defeat them, freeing up their ability to strike Iran without worrying about the pressure coming from their northern border. 0.51

01:53:22.000 But it's a lot easier said than done, because Israel's lost this war twice.

01:53:28.000 And it seems like based on today, they're going to encounter the same difficulty.

01:53:33.000 So that's the story in Lebanon and we'll see what happens with the fighting there.

01:53:38.000 But I mean, I've said it from the beginning.

01:53:40.000 This is the second phase of a three phase war.

01:53:44.000 The ultimate ambition is for Israel to decapitate the Iranian regime and strike a strategic 0.78

01:53:52.000 blow against its nuclear complex and oil and gas.

01:53:55.000 It is meant to decisively weaken or destroy Hezbollah in Lebanon and create a buffer zone 0.79

01:54:00.000 south of the Latani River, and ultimately to annex Gaza, to expel many of the Palestinians, 0.98

01:54:07.000 defeat Hamas, and effectively annex Gaza.

01:54:11.000 Those are, I think, the long-term goals, phase one, two, and three of the conflict, and each

01:54:17.000 are related to the other.

01:54:19.000 Each, they have to occur in sequence, and each will be leveraged into the next, and they're all related, the purpose of which is to make Israel an uncontested regional hegemon. 0.88

01:54:31.000 Without worrying about Hezbollah in the north, solving the Palestinian question, and without Iran sponsoring militias and the Palestinians, Israel with their golf allies and the United States will 0.79

01:54:45.000 become the Indisputed uncontested hegemon of the region and they will 1.00

01:54:50.000 dominate all of their neighbors So that's the endgame some wild cards will be Turkey 0.99

01:54:58.000 to the an Erdogan and to the extent that Russia and China will intervene in the conflict of oil flows are disrupted

01:55:06.000 in a war with Iran and of course the election

01:55:09.000 Donald Trump will be far more willing to underwrite Israel's war than a Harris administration.

01:55:17.000 Although I think it's debatable whether that will be marginal or whether that will be significant.

01:55:24.000 But that's the story.

01:55:25.000 So that's a lot to get through.

01:55:28.000 I try to get through it as quickly as possible because we're on a time crunch here.

01:55:32.000 I would have liked to spend a little more time, but we have a big debate with a teenager Democrat coming up on Aiden Ross's stream.

01:55:38.000 So I'm going to move on.

01:55:39.000 We're going to take a look at our super chats.

01:55:42.000 I'll get through as many of these as I can.

01:55:43.000 And then I got to get out of here because I got to do this.

01:55:48.000 I got to show up to this big debate.

01:55:51.000 So let me take a look at these Super Chats, we'll see what you guys have to say, and then we'll end the show, we'll go into the debate with Aiden Ross.

01:56:00.000 I'm not debating him, I'm debating some Democrat.

01:56:06.000 Alright, but that's our news of the day.

01:56:10.000 So, we might talk, obviously we'll talk about him more tomorrow when we have more news.

01:56:16.000 We'll probably have more news about Iran's retaliation, or rather Israel's retaliation, and more news from the front in Lebanon.

01:56:28.000 But that's the big picture.

01:56:31.000 I don't think you're going to get a breakdown like that anywhere else.

01:56:33.000 All these other people have no understanding of the conflict.

01:56:36.000 I was going through some of these Republican officials like Madison Cawthorn and Marjorie Greene and Matt Gaetz, and they're all just saying, like, pray for Israel.

01:56:46.000 Israel's the good guys.

01:56:47.000 Iran is the bad guys. 1.00

01:56:51.000 And it's like, how America-first is it to support regime change in Iran?

01:56:56.000 Is it really America-first to uncritically, unconditionally support whatever Israel does, even if it includes dragging us into a war which is not in our interest? 0.74

01:57:08.000 I mean, what do you think is going to happen if we decapitate the Iranian regime?

01:57:13.000 Oil prices are going to skyrocket, which means inflation is going to skyrocket, and it's going to be like nothing you've ever seen, because you've already got a crunch on energy because of the sanctions against Russia.

01:57:26.000 So the reason we had to open up the oil sales for Venezuela and Iran, and the reason Biden had to bend the knee to Saudi Arabia, is because energy was constrained by the sanctions on Russia because of the Ukraine war.

01:57:40.000 If you close the Strait of Hormuz and China can no longer buy Iran's oil, you're going to get an oil crunch like you've never seen before, energy crunch, when energy demand is increasing because of AI and other things.

01:57:56.000 So that's catastrophic.

01:57:58.000 Like, Iran's oil must keep flowing.

01:58:01.000 And if there's regime change, oil prices are going to go up, inflation is going to go up.

01:58:06.000 And by the way, then there goes your soft landing.

01:58:10.000 You know, inflation, they just had a big rate cut.

01:58:13.000 They cut interest rates by 50 basis points.

01:58:16.000 And core inflation is starting to go up again.

01:58:19.000 So the Federal Reserve is trying to create the soft landing with the economy.

01:58:24.000 Interest rates are very high.

01:58:27.000 We're battling inflation.

01:58:29.000 What happens if interest rates are as high as they are and then inflation goes up again because of fuel prices?

01:58:34.000 This is catastrophic for the economy.

01:58:37.000 And it would guarantee a recession.

01:58:39.000 I'll tell you that now.

01:58:40.000 It would guarantee a recession and it would be catastrophic.

01:58:45.000 And it may be unrecoverable if you have stagflation.

01:58:48.000 No economic growth, high inflation.

01:58:51.000 It would be a disaster.

01:58:52.000 That's one.

01:58:53.000 Two, You're going to get a refugee crisis. 1.00

01:58:57.000 Every time you do regime change, you get refugees. 1.00

01:59:00.000 Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Palestine, Lebanon.

01:59:04.000 Already a million Lebanese have fled the country.

01:59:07.000 And where do you think they're going?

01:59:08.000 They're going to Europe.

01:59:10.000 They're going to come to the United States. 0.99

01:59:12.000 So you're going to get a refugee crisis.

01:59:14.000 And Iran is much bigger than Lebanon and Afghanistan in terms of population.

01:59:20.000 And Libya.

01:59:21.000 It's a real country.

01:59:23.000 And then three, you're going to get terrorism.

01:59:27.000 Either false flag terrorism by Israel or real radicalism, you're going to get terrorism. 0.58

01:59:32.000 The United States is going to get involved.

01:59:34.000 Americans are going to die. 1.00

01:59:35.000 We're going to be stuck there.

01:59:37.000 It's going to spread us very thin because we have to also defend Taiwan and also keep up the fight in Ukraine and also deter all these other things going on everywhere else.

01:59:47.000 So, it's just, like, catastrophic.

01:59:50.000 And Israel can't do it without us, and they expect us to support them, and because the government's controlled by Israel, we're going to. 0.78

02:00:00.000 But you would think that America First, self-proclaimed America Firsters like Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Greene, and Madison Cawthorn would know better.

02:00:08.000 But they're owned by Israel themselves.

02:00:11.000 I also think they're complete idiots.

02:00:13.000 So that doesn't help.

02:00:14.000 It doesn't help when you're objectively stupid either and don't really understand these dynamics.

02:00:19.000 But that is what they're pushing for.

02:00:20.000 When they talk about Iran hacking the RNC and Iran trying to kill Trump, And when you look at what Israel clearly has planned for this, these unfolding phases of a regional war, it's obvious they're priming the pump for false flags, for a pretext to go to war with Iran.

02:00:40.000 And it really has nothing to do with us.

02:00:42.000 It has everything to do with Israel. 0.64

02:00:44.000 The people that are pushing the policy are in the pocket of Saudi Arabia and Israel.

02:00:48.000 It's Brett McGurk.

02:00:50.000 Who's the Middle East policy advisor in the White House.

02:00:53.000 It's Amos Hochstein, who's a senior advisor.

02:00:56.000 Hochstein was born in Israel, served in the IDF.

02:01:00.000 Brett McGurk has been in government for 20 years, was in Iraq, resigned from the Trump admin when he wanted to pull us out of Syria.

02:01:08.000 He's beholden to the Saudis. 0.98

02:01:10.000 So it's like you have two people creating this policy to decapitate Iran because it would benefit Saudi Arabia and Israel.

02:01:17.000 It would be a disaster for the United States.

02:01:21.000 And, you know, but, but they're right there alongside the America Firsters and the GOP.

02:01:27.000 Okay.

02:01:28.000 It's terrible.

02:01:29.000 Anyway, we're going to move on.

02:01:31.000 We're going to, honestly, we can read like some of these super chats.

02:01:34.000 We're not going to be able to read most of them.

02:01:36.000 I guess I'll save them for tomorrow.

02:01:38.000 I'll read the biggest ones.

02:01:40.000 We'll save a lot of these for tomorrow.

02:01:42.000 Slavik Lukovic said $100.

02:01:43.000 Give me one second.

02:01:44.000 Show Nick. Give me one second.

02:01:47.000 Okay.

02:01:50.000 Slavic Lukovic said $100. Great show Nick. Good luck.

02:01:54.000 Have fun with it.

02:01:55.000 Thanks for the big super chat!

02:01:56.000 It's gonna be fun!

02:01:58.000 That's the most important rule right have fun with it.

02:02:01.000 Thanks for the big super chat. It's gonna be fun. That's gonna be a good one

02:02:05.000 a sacroi percent I appreciate it.

02:02:08.000 I don't know if I'm max prestige, but I'm definitely prestige.

02:02:11.000 I'm liberal and I'm kecking popcorns in hand.

02:02:14.000 Thanks for the big super chat.

02:02:16.000 I appreciate it.

02:02:17.000 I don't know if I'm max prestige, but I'm definitely prestiged.

02:02:21.000 I'm like five prestige, level 100, just like golden skins on my AK-47 and model 1887.

02:02:31.000 1987.

02:02:32.000 Gold skin on my ACR with the ACOG scope.

02:02:36.000 Extra mags.

02:02:37.000 It's all day, you know it.

02:02:40.000 Good intervention.

02:02:42.000 It'll be fun.

02:02:43.000 And a level one libshit slime who's like, oh, Kamala's- Kamala's a bad- I saw him in the Jubilee thing and he's like, here's why I'm arguing for Kamala.

02:02:53.000 She wants to defend democracy for all. 0.99

02:02:56.000 It's like, you're a- you're such a fucking idiot.

02:02:59.000 If you believe anything like that, if you honestly think politics is about like- I think I literally have the quote.

02:03:09.000 I made a quick document to prepare for it.

02:03:12.000 I just wrote down some of the shit that he said.

02:03:15.000 He said that, let me see if I have it.

02:03:19.000 Kamala will protect and preserve democracy.

02:03:22.000 That's like the equivalent of, you're like an unpaid shill.

02:03:27.000 That's like if somebody said, McDonald's?

02:03:29.000 That stuff's pretty unhealthy.

02:03:31.000 And you were like, McDonald's is fortified with three key ingredients.

02:03:34.000 It's always delicious.

02:03:36.000 It's like you're saying an advertising slogan.

02:03:39.000 Like, that's an advertising slogan that was fucking made up by a marketing agency.

02:03:46.000 It's not, there is no basis in reality, okay?

02:03:50.000 Like, Subway's job is to make money selling sandwiches.

02:03:55.000 And so their marketing agency comes up with words to trick you into buying their sandwiches.

02:04:02.000 So they say, look, we lost weight eating sandwiches.

02:04:07.000 And so for someone to uncritically go and say, like, she's going to protect and preserve democracy, it would be like the same thing if you just, like, got a McDonald's ad tattooed on your face, like a, what do they call those, like, meal deals?

02:04:22.000 A dollar menu advertisement on your chest or your back.

02:04:26.000 Cheeseburger for $1.

02:04:29.000 Have it your way, like Burger King.

02:04:31.000 The thing that I love about Burger King is you can have it your way.

02:04:34.000 Life got you down?

02:04:36.000 Feel like you can't have it your way at Burger King?

02:04:40.000 You can have any kind of cheeseburger you like.

02:04:42.000 It's no different.

02:04:43.000 She's gonna protect and preserve democracy? 1.00

02:04:45.000 Really?

02:04:45.000 You think that's why Steve Jobs' widow is giving her all this money?

02:04:53.000 Do you think that all these people that have a gripe with Disney supported DeSantis because he woke, went to die, or because DeSantis was gonna fuck with Disney's real estate portfolio in Florida because he was the fucking governor there?

02:05:05.000 Hello?

02:05:06.000 Like, it's all about money!

02:05:08.000 It's all about money, it's all about power.

02:05:10.000 They're in favor of democracy, really?

02:05:12.000 That's why they went to Saudi Arabia, where they, like, killed journalists and jailed human rights activists?

02:05:18.000 Because they're all about democracy?

02:05:20.000 Or because the country needs oil?

02:05:23.000 Like, hello?

02:05:26.000 So it's just totally insane.

02:05:27.000 But anyway, we'll look at a few more.

02:05:30.000 I don't even know how many super chats we have time for here.

02:05:33.000 I guess I'll just read the biggest ones.

02:05:35.000 Blackpill sent $77.

02:05:36.000 Last night's debate between the two Israel hawks was so lame and predictable.

02:05:39.000 Hawk 1, do you believe Donald Trump lost the 2020 election?

02:05:42.000 Hawk 2, uh, whatever makes sense.

02:05:44.000 Meanwhile, Jews are crucifying the entire world. 1.00

02:05:47.000 Yeah, totally lame.

02:05:49.000 Vance totally cucked out on that.

02:05:50.000 Wouldn't even say the election was stolen.

02:05:53.000 I mean, I get it politically, but... This is dumb.

02:05:54.000 I agree.

02:06:12.000 I agree with that.

02:06:15.000 And I think that the hot potato of the Iran war should be passed to Kamala.

02:06:19.000 I think the recession should be passed.

02:06:21.000 I think it probably would be better at this point.

02:06:23.000 I'm not voting for her.

02:06:24.000 I don't want it to happen.

02:06:26.000 But when all is said and done, in terms of like second and third order effects, I think Kamala winning, as much as people are going to hate to hear it, would probably be better, even though she'd be worse.

02:06:36.000 A lot of people have a hard time with that.

02:06:38.000 You say something like Trump would be the better president, and yet it would ultimately be worse for the country.

02:06:47.000 But that's because people can't think past, like, that first chess move.

02:06:52.000 You know, but chess and strategy is about thinking several steps ahead.

02:06:56.000 If this, then that.

02:06:58.000 If that, then this.

02:07:01.000 And calculating probability and the computational power to consider all those things.

02:07:08.000 If you're a low IQ fucktard, you can't think past, like, if I move it here, I could take this guy's pawn. 1.00

02:07:15.000 I'll take a piece.

02:07:17.000 And if you go, yeah, but if you take that pawn, then you're going to get checkmated.

02:07:21.000 They go, but I'm taking a pawn.

02:07:23.000 Should I not take a pawn?

02:07:26.000 You win chess by taking pieces, right?

02:07:28.000 Should I not make this move?

02:07:30.000 So anyway, all right.

02:07:32.000 I got to go.

02:07:33.000 I got to go.

02:07:33.000 Aiden Ross is calling me.

02:07:35.000 I got to go.

02:07:38.000 So we'll save the rest of the Super Chats for tomorrow.

02:07:42.000 I'll read this one super quick because it's greater.

02:07:44.000 JC Gray sent $50. Been watching a while. This episode was one of the best.

02:07:47.000 You bring so much info and put it together so well.

02:07:49.000 Thank you very much, man.

02:07:51.000 Yeah, I like to think that I do, so I appreciate you saying that.

02:07:54.000 That's our last Super Chat.

02:07:56.000 I'll read the rest tomorrow.

02:07:57.000 I'm going to be on Aiden Ross' kickstream doing the debate, so tune in over there.

02:08:03.000 I'll post the replay of it on Rumble.

02:08:05.000 So I'm not going to stream it, but I'll post a replay of it on my channel when we finish.

02:08:10.000 We'll cut it, we'll upload it, if he's cool with that.

02:08:13.000 So I'm going to go over there in a sec.

02:08:15.000 But that's going to do it for me on the show tonight.

02:08:18.000 Smash the follow button, smash the like button, or should I just, you know, maybe I'll just stream it actually.

02:08:24.000 Yeah, you know what?

02:08:25.000 Maybe I'll just, maybe I'll just stream it.

02:08:27.000 Okay.

02:08:27.000 I'll just, I'll just switch over.

02:08:29.000 I guess I'll just have to figure out the tech and I'll just do it.

02:08:33.000 We'll just do it live.

02:08:34.000 Okay.

02:08:36.000 All right.

02:08:37.000 Yeah.

02:08:37.000 I'll just keep the stream going.

02:08:39.000 What am I thinking?

02:08:39.000 We have 18,000 live viewers.

02:08:42.000 Why would I end the stream?

02:08:44.000 All right.

02:08:44.000 So bear with me.

02:08:45.000 I'll just get set up here.

02:08:49.000 Let's see, what's my Discord?

02:08:51.000 I don't even know.

02:08:54.000 I'm Unc now.

02:08:58.000 I've been banned from Discord so much, I don't even know what my username and stuff is.

02:09:03.000 Streamer mode enabled?

02:09:05.000 Come on, bruh.

02:09:07.000 How do I turn this shit off?

02:09:12.000 Give me one sec!

02:09:17.000 There it is.

02:09:17.000 Streamer mode.

02:09:18.000 Let's disable that so I can just see my name.

02:09:21.000 Oh, that's what it is.

02:09:23.000 Okay.

02:09:24.000 Okay. Now I'm going to re-enable streamer mode because that's kind of a Keck name.

02:09:35.000 I forgot that that was my name.

02:09:36.000 It's kind of funny.

02:09:38.000 But not really appropriate for the stream.

02:09:40.000 I have to pee too.

02:09:41.000 Maybe I'll get up in a sec.

02:09:44.000 Or I'll just hold it.

02:09:45.000 Like a boss.

02:09:48.000 Okay.

02:09:51.000 Sent in my name.

02:09:53.000 Let's see.

02:09:54.000 We'll await the invitation.

02:09:57.000 Then we'll get it set up.

02:10:04.000 Okay.

02:10:09.000 I'm waiting on an invitation here.

02:10:25.000 Okay.

02:10:33.000 Oh, I guess I'll just hit up Sneeko. 0.62

02:10:37.000 Or no, I think Sneeko's at Aiden Ross's house, so he has to add me.

02:10:45.000 They're rushing me, they're rushing me, and then it's like, okay.

02:10:48.000 All right, well, we're awaiting this.

02:11:02.000 What do you guys think?

02:11:03.000 What do you guys think about this debate?

02:11:06.000 This is gonna be good.

02:11:09.000 But it's kind of a classic.

02:11:10.000 It's like America first classic.

02:11:12.000 Normally I'm debating like conservatives about whether Israel's running our government.

02:11:18.000 Now I'm debating some like libshit about Kamala versus Trump.

02:11:21.000 It's like kind of plebeian.

02:11:25.000 All right, here we go.

02:11:26.000 I'm adding Ross.

02:11:28.000 I'm adding Aiden Ross on Discord.

02:11:30.000 I'm going to give him a call here.

02:11:31.000 I'll have to do this.

02:11:38.000 Okay.

02:11:43.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:11:46.000 Oh, I see, because it's my...

02:11:48.000 How do I get it set up?

02:11:50.000 Oh, whatever, it's fine.

02:11:56.000 Hey, what's up?

02:11:58.000 This is the speakers.

02:12:01.000 Hello?

02:12:02.000 Hey, what's up?

02:12:04.000 Hey, buddy!

02:12:04.000 Hey, what's up?

02:12:10.000 Now the man's up with you.

02:12:12.000 Hang on, let me get my thing set up.

02:12:20.000 I'm going to go ahead and get my thing set up.

02:12:26.000 I don't know.

02:12:30.000 Hang on, I'm trying to get my video set up here so that you can see me.

02:12:36.000 We got the liberal on yet or what?

02:12:38.000 Hey Sneeko, what's up? 0.99

02:12:40.000 Jake, can we fix this audio real quick?

02:12:45.000 I think, let me figure out how to do this.

02:12:47.000 Jewish audio.

02:12:50.000 Jewish audio.

02:12:53.000 I think I know how to fix it.

02:12:55.000 Wait, wait, wait.

02:12:57.000 No, I know why.

02:12:58.000 Audio output.

02:12:59.000 Wait, I thought I had a... Give me a second.

02:13:01.000 Audio output.

02:13:02.000 Sam, I gotta text my guy here.

02:13:05.000 Nick, I thought JD Vance did pretty well.

02:13:07.000 Yeah, he did pretty well.

02:13:09.000 I still don't like him.

02:13:10.000 Still hate him, but... Yeah, is that good?

02:13:14.000 Talk now, Nick?

02:13:16.000 Test.

02:13:17.000 Testing.

02:13:19.000 Lower just a little bit more.

02:13:33.000 How's it now?

02:13:34.000 Talk one more time?

02:13:35.000 Nick?

02:13:36.000 Test, test, test.

02:13:36.000 I want to make sure your camera's straight.

02:13:38.000 Oh! 0.60

02:13:39.000 Yes, do you see and hear me, Nick?

02:13:40.000 I do.

02:13:42.000 Okay, we have to join the other Discord room.

02:13:45.000 Okay.

02:13:46.000 With Dean.

02:13:47.000 Okay.

02:13:48.000 So, how you feeling tonight?

02:13:49.000 You good?

02:13:50.000 I'm feeling good.

02:13:51.000 I'm excited.

02:13:52.000 Dude, it's actually like a pleasure to talk to you, bro.

02:13:56.000 Likewise!

02:13:57.000 Good to talk to you, too.

02:13:59.000 He does have aura.

02:14:02.000 Let's go.

02:14:03.000 You have aura.

02:14:05.000 Thank you, bro.

02:14:05.000 Wait, hold on.

02:14:06.000 What was that?

02:14:08.000 Oh, shit.

02:14:09.000 Shit, shit, shit.

02:14:10.000 I got it.

02:14:11.000 Well, we're gonna... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:14:12.000 Alright.

02:14:13.000 I'm gonna invade this room.

02:14:14.000 Don't leak it, alright?

02:14:15.000 Okay.

02:14:18.000 Whoops.

02:14:20.000 Didn't mean to do that.

02:14:20.000 I gotta figure out how to do this thing here.

02:14:26.000 Oh, I see.

02:14:27.000 Let me... Let me do like this.

02:14:33.000 I don't know how I'm gonna do this, technically.

02:14:37.000 I'm not a technical guy.

02:14:38.000 I gotta set it up.

02:14:39.000 I guess it's gonna be a voice call?

02:14:40.000 I'm a little bit nervous.

02:14:41.000 I've had Nick's fans on the Twitter account.

02:14:45.000 Hey! 0.99

02:14:46.000 What's going on, man?

02:14:47.000 How you doing?

02:14:47.000 What's up?

02:14:48.000 I'm good.

02:14:48.000 How you doing?

02:14:50.000 Doing all right.

02:14:51.000 It's a good night.

02:14:52.000 Let's have a great time.

02:14:54.000 Despite... Dean, it's a pleasure to meet you, man.

02:14:57.000 Despite whatever I believe in, you know, like I said, I believe in a couple of your guys' points for certain topics.

02:15:03.000 Me and Sneeko, we're going to hold our ground and be as neutral as possible.

02:15:08.000 Cool.

02:15:08.000 Sounds good.

02:15:09.000 I appreciate y'all for that.

02:15:11.000 By the way, Dean, Sneeko, you're not going to see him because we're kind of reacting over you, but I'll turn my camera off for a quick second.

02:15:17.000 You could meet us face to face.

02:15:20.000 This is Sneeko.

02:15:21.000 What's going on, man?

02:15:22.000 What's going on, dude?

02:15:24.000 I was a little bit disappointed to hear that the debate between you and me wasn't happening, but, you know, here we are nonetheless.

02:15:28.000 It's good to meet you.

02:15:29.000 I didn't even hear about that.

02:15:30.000 I didn't know that that was confirmed.

02:15:33.000 I told you it was.

02:15:33.000 It was never confirmed.

02:15:35.000 I literally told you it was.

02:15:36.000 I have the text.

02:15:38.000 Show me.

02:15:38.000 You want to see the text?

02:15:39.000 Yeah.

02:15:39.000 Well, I was over FaceTime, actually.

02:15:41.000 I don't know too much about you.

02:15:42.000 We saw some of your Jubilee video.

02:15:44.000 But I've heard good things about your debating.

02:15:48.000 But Aiden told me that you, like, agreed to the topics.

02:15:51.000 No, I didn't.

02:15:52.000 Okay, I must have liked it.

02:15:54.000 I'm in the debate towards Ethan Klein and Hasanabi right now, but if it makes sense, it makes sense.

02:15:59.000 And I'll debate anybody.

02:16:01.000 Okay, all right.

02:16:03.000 I moderate debates pretty frequently, so I'm going to stay neutral.

02:16:07.000 Obviously, like, I've known Nick for quite some time, but yeah, we don't want to come off biased at all.

02:16:12.000 We're going to keep it fair and make sure that we can cover all the topics.

02:16:15.000 Cool, sounds good.

02:16:17.000 Nick, your webcam is not loading.

02:16:19.000 Yeah, I'm trying to get set up here.

02:16:21.000 Give me one sec.

02:16:22.000 Okay.

02:16:24.000 I'm trying to figure out how I can do this here.

02:16:30.000 Dude, I see Aiden giving you that side-eye.

02:16:33.000 I'm not gonna lie, that's crazy.

02:16:35.000 That's our sexual tension.

02:16:37.000 Okay, word.

02:16:38.000 All right, I guess I'll just do it like this.

02:16:39.000 My audience won't be able to see, but maybe I'll just end my stream.

02:16:42.000 All right, I want you guys, you guys go ahead and introduce each other.

02:16:47.000 Take it away, Nick.

02:16:48.000 You got it first.

02:16:49.000 Hang on.

02:16:50.000 What's up?

02:16:53.000 Okay.

02:16:53.000 I guess while he's, I guess while he's figuring that out, I'll go ahead and give an introduction of myself to everyone watching.

02:16:59.000 I am Dean Withers.

02:17:00.000 I am a 20 year old, uh, liberal.

02:17:03.000 I really enjoy, uh, uh, I enjoy politics.

02:17:06.000 I enjoy debate.

02:17:07.000 And I started streaming on TikTok about a year and a half ago, uh, yap in my mouth to maybe a crowd of 30 people.

02:17:13.000 And here we are, uh, a year and a half later on a debate stage on Aiden Ross's stream, debating Nick Fuentes.

02:17:19.000 So it's going to be a fun night guys.

02:17:21.000 Thank you very much.

02:17:22.000 It is gonna be a fun one.

02:17:24.000 We're just waiting for Nick, and then we'll let Nick introduce himself, and then uh... Then we gotta agree on topics and terms and everything.

02:17:29.000 No, no, they already both agreed on the topics.

02:17:31.000 They have?

02:17:31.000 Yeah, there's four good topics.

02:17:33.000 I think I should do maybe a two to five minute intro, depending what they agree on, and then... I agree, and then we'll ask a question.

02:17:37.000 And then we'll do free-flowing, and if they interrupt each other, then we can go to 90 seconds, two minutes, back and forth.

02:17:41.000 Correct.

02:17:41.000 And then we have the ability to server mute as well.

02:17:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:44.000 Guys, if you wanna like formalize this, go for it.

02:17:48.000 Alright, honestly, I was coming here expecting a back and forth conversation, but I'm down with formalization.

02:17:54.000 Yeah, we'll figure it out.

02:17:56.000 We don't want to hear you guys talking over each other the whole time.

02:18:00.000 Hey, Nick, if you can hear me, I know how to fix your issue, bro.

02:18:04.000 So, are you using OBS Studio?

02:18:07.000 Yes.

02:18:09.000 Okay, so you're gonna go ahead and start a virtual cam.

02:18:12.000 You'll see that.

02:18:13.000 And what that'll do is you can basically use your webcam at the same time as using it on your stream.

02:18:23.000 So it's like you can use Discord and the stream.

02:18:25.000 Make sure your virtual camera is selected to your video source that you're using on OBS.

02:18:31.000 Okay, let me see.

02:18:32.000 I'm surprised you're not in OBS.

02:18:36.000 Hang on.

02:18:36.000 I'm kidding.

02:18:37.000 Let me see.

02:18:39.000 Yeah, no, I used to be.

02:18:40.000 I don't know.

02:18:40.000 I got a producer and now I'm kind of lazy.

02:18:45.000 That's insane.

02:18:46.000 What is this?

02:18:47.000 This is the, yeah.

02:18:48.000 So why isn't this working?

02:18:50.000 Okay.

02:18:51.000 So click on, you know what you got to do?

02:18:54.000 Go to the camera icon and click the little down arrow.

02:18:59.000 Jewish tech support.

02:19:01.000 Come on, man.

02:19:01.000 Oh, okay.

02:19:04.000 Hang on.

02:19:04.000 I think I got it.

02:19:05.000 Okay, I think I got it.

02:19:08.000 Sorry, guys.

02:19:09.000 No, dude, you're good.

02:19:10.000 Take your time.

02:19:10.000 There we go.

02:19:11.000 There we go.

02:19:11.000 Okay, I think we're good now.

02:19:12.000 Can you see?

02:19:13.000 Yes, we're good.

02:19:15.000 Okay, now let me do this like this.

02:19:19.000 Okay, that wasn't too hard.

02:19:22.000 All right.

02:19:23.000 Nick, let's give it a little introduction.

02:19:25.000 I would like you to give a little introduction and tell us, you know, the new viewers and stuff, who you are, what you do, talk a little about yourself and yeah, go ahead.

02:19:35.000 Sure.

02:19:35.000 Yeah.

02:19:36.000 Well, my name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

02:19:38.000 I'm a live streamer.

02:19:39.000 I've been doing a show called America First for eight years, almost eight years now.

02:19:45.000 I'm 26 from Chicago.

02:19:47.000 I'm a reactionary Trump supporter.

02:19:51.000 Well, I was a Trump supporter, not so much anymore, but I'll be defending Trump.

02:19:54.000 That's fine from, you know, debate point of view.

02:19:59.000 And, yeah, so that's me.

02:20:01.000 So I'm excited to be here.

02:20:02.000 It's going to be good.

02:20:03.000 Sweet.

02:20:05.000 Sweet.

02:20:05.000 OK.

02:20:06.000 Well, you know, the first topic, as everyone knows in the chat as well, you know, is who is the better presidential candidate?

02:20:13.000 Dean, we'll start with you.

02:20:16.000 Yeah, sure.

02:20:17.000 So, I mean, obviously, I think that the better presidential candidate is Kamala Harris, but I just wanted to clarify with Nick, you said that you're not much of a Trump supporter.

02:20:23.000 So are you voting for Trump?

02:20:25.000 No, I'm not.

02:20:26.000 I'm not going to vote for him.

02:20:27.000 Who are you voting for?

02:20:28.000 I'm not voting.

02:20:30.000 OK, holy shit.

02:20:32.000 Well, I mean, you know, the reason I chose that topic was because, you know, I thought that you were voting for Trump.

02:20:38.000 I don't really see much use in it if you're not voting for Trump.

02:20:41.000 I mean, it's worthwhile because I'll argue that people should.

02:20:44.000 I'll just argue that Trump is better than.

02:20:46.000 I think that Trump would be a better president, but I'm not going to vote for him.

02:20:51.000 Okay, yeah, sure.

02:20:53.000 I guess we'll start there.

02:20:54.000 I disagree.

02:20:55.000 You know, one of the main reasons why I disagree, we could come out of the gate swinging, is this economic policy.

02:21:00.000 I think that, you know, it's pretty clear, and we could probably both agree on this, that the average American should be doing better than they are today.

02:21:07.000 And they should not be doing worse than they are today.

02:21:10.000 Donald Trump's proposed economic policy will make the average American worse off with his tariffs and then his TCGA for another 10 years disproportionately benefits rich people.

02:21:20.000 It will also just add reckless spending to our debt.

02:21:22.000 It will inflate it even more than it is today.

02:21:25.000 I think there's an estimate from the CBO putting that right at $5.8 trillion.

02:21:29.000 He has no fucking plan how he's going to pay for it.

02:21:31.000 Then we look over at Kamala Harris, okay?

02:21:33.000 Her proposed tax policy so far is $2.4 trillion.

02:21:36.000 She knows exactly how she's going to pay for it, and they're designed for 100 million American workers in the low and the middle class.

02:21:41.000 And it's going to make them better off.

02:21:42.000 Donald Trump's going to make them worse off.

02:21:44.000 Argument's clear.

02:21:46.000 Okay, that's it?

02:21:47.000 It's just the economic proposals?

02:21:49.000 That's all you got?

02:21:51.000 We could start there.

02:21:52.000 Okay.

02:21:53.000 Sure, we could reference other things too.

02:21:54.000 I didn't want to just throw everything at you at once.

02:21:57.000 Sure, well— I mean, we could talk about multiple things.

02:21:59.000 Yeah, well, let me let me address all that.

02:22:01.000 I mean, so with regard to the tariffs, J.D.

02:22:05.000 Vance pointed this out, the Biden administration continued many of the Trump era tariffs.

02:22:10.000 So that's kind of a moot point.

02:22:12.000 I mean, not at all.

02:22:13.000 Kamala is going to.

02:22:14.000 Of course he did.

02:22:15.000 Of course he continued tariffs on China.

02:22:16.000 No, they continued the tariffs, but it's not a mute point.

02:22:18.000 I disagree with the Biden-Harris administration because they continued the tariffs on China, but what Donald Trump is proposing today is a 10-20% flat tariff on all goods imported into the country.

02:22:26.000 I could say that any and all tariffs are bad, but a 10-20% flat tariff on all goods is worse than tariffs on goods imported from China.

02:22:33.000 I don't think it's a flat tariff.

02:22:34.000 Is that actually the policy?

02:22:36.000 I don't believe that's right.

02:22:37.000 It is, right?

02:22:38.000 I think that JD Vance was talking about this last night in the debate.

02:22:40.000 I think you could reference his own policies.

02:22:42.000 He's talked about it multiple times in the past.

02:22:43.000 If you don't think this is... It's only on certain countries.

02:22:46.000 It wouldn't be... There would be no 15... That doesn't make any sense.

02:22:48.000 There'd be no 15 to 20 percent tariff.

02:22:50.000 But even if that were the case...

02:22:52.000 Fine.

02:22:53.000 Let's say for the sake of argument that's true, because I don't know the Trump policy.

02:22:56.000 They keep saying that Trump is going to put in place—they're calling it a consumption tax.

02:23:01.000 A consumption tax is a value-added tax.

02:23:03.000 They're saying it's going to be like a sales tax, and that's the idea that the taxation occurs at the point of a sale of goods.

02:23:10.000 And that's actually a real proposal, but that's different than a tariff because, and here's

02:23:14.000 the difference, when you put a tariff on goods and services, to call that a consumption tax

02:23:20.000 is to imply that the consumer will bear the full cost of the tariff.

02:23:25.000 And that's not necessarily true.

02:23:27.000 Trump had a lot of tariffs in his first term, and the price of goods did not significantly

02:23:31.000 increase in spite of the tariffs.

02:23:34.000 Everybody says that it would only be the case if the full cost of the tariff was passed

02:23:38.000 down to the consumer, but that flies in the face of the fact that foreign corporations

02:23:43.000 will bear the cost of the tariff, or almost all of it, and certainly not all of it is

02:23:50.000 passed down to the consumer.

02:23:51.000 So that's just not true.

02:23:52.000 That's one.

02:23:53.000 Two, with regard to deficit spending tax policy, I mean, you know, I know you're a young guy and everything, but like Republicans and Democrats, there's a bipartisan consensus on spending.

02:24:04.000 Let's just talk about spending.

02:24:06.000 Most of the spending on an annual basis is not even discretionary. Okay, there's mandatory spending

02:24:12.000 and there's discretionary spending.

02:24:14.000 Mandatory spending means you can't change it. Okay, the executive doesn't change it. Congress

02:24:18.000 can barely change it. And that is liabilities like Social Security, Medicare. It's baked into

02:24:24.000 the cake. It's a vast majority of it. And who is going to cut entitlements?

02:24:29.000 Nobody.

02:24:30.000 Republicans aren't proposing to cut entitlements, although they'd be more willing to than Democrats.

02:24:35.000 Democrats are certainly not touching entitlements.

02:24:38.000 Biden always attacks Republicans in his State of the Union, saying they're trying to touch Social Security.

02:24:43.000 What do you think's driving the deficit of the debt?

02:24:45.000 It's Social Security and Medicare.

02:24:47.000 It's unfunded liabilities.

02:24:49.000 In terms of military spending, military spending has gone up every year under the Biden administration.

02:24:54.000 It's like $850 billion per year.

02:24:57.000 That's the largest item in the discretionary budget.

02:25:00.000 So mandatory spending is going to go up in perpetuity.

02:25:04.000 Under Democrats and Republicans, discretionary spending is going to go up because military is by far and away the biggest component of that, and Biden spends more.

02:25:12.000 And he spends more on military appropriations because of all the foreign aid.

02:25:16.000 We gave $175 billion to Ukraine.

02:25:18.000 We gave $27 billion to Israel, another $8 billion to Israel last week, $7 billion to Taiwan, $1.3 billion to Egypt.

02:25:25.000 That's in addition to the $850 billion per year, which that's like the highest ever under Biden.

02:25:31.000 So, you know, spending's not coming down under anybody.

02:25:34.000 Um... Yeah, well that's just wrong.

02:25:37.000 I'm sorry for interrupting you.

02:25:38.000 What's wrong?

02:25:39.000 Oh yeah, your claim that spending didn't go down under Biden and Harris compared to Trump.

02:25:43.000 You could reference a committee for a responsible federal budget.

02:25:44.000 I didn't say that, I didn't say that.

02:25:45.000 You said that spending wasn't going down under anyone, right?

02:25:48.000 We can make a comparative analysis between the two last terms and we could show how it's going down.

02:25:52.000 A committee for a responsible federal budget indicated that Donald Trump signed $8.7 trillion in debt into law.

02:25:58.000 Meanwhile, Biden and Harris only signed in $4.6 trillion.

02:26:01.000 I mean, we could break that down into COVID and non-COVID.

02:26:04.000 Like, for instance, Trump signed $4.8 trillion of non-COVID-related expenditures into law.

02:26:08.000 Meanwhile, Biden only signed in $2.2 trillion.

02:26:10.000 But the first point that you made, I wanted to touch on that.

02:26:13.000 You were talking about the tariffs.

02:26:14.000 You just kind of related it back to how the Kamala Harris campaign is calling it a sales tax, and that's kind of all you said.

02:26:20.000 Yeah, I don't really care what they're calling it.

02:26:22.000 I agree that's just a term that they use to convince the average American that doesn't know much about what a tariff is, that it's really bad.

02:26:29.000 But at the end of the day, the impact of the tariff still does serve as a detriment to the consumer.

02:26:34.000 And you were very careful with your words here, because you told me that that That tax, right, that tariff isn't fully paid by the consumer, implicitly kind of conceding there that some of it is, right?

02:26:46.000 And that's what I'm talking about.

02:26:47.000 That is a tax that in some sorts is passed off to the consumer.

02:26:51.000 We could also consider other attributes such as the idea when we reduce the overall supply of a good with a constant demand, the price will go up.

02:26:57.000 That's basic macroeconomics.

02:26:59.000 That's going to happen when we reduce the amount of imported goods without increasing

02:27:03.000 the amount of supply manufactured here at home in the US.

02:27:06.000 At the end of the day, tariffs are bad.

02:27:07.000 This is a unilateral, agreed upon consensus.

02:27:10.000 Republicans and Democrats alike, you go to any economist, they'll tell you this unless

02:27:14.000 they don't have the necessary qualifications to be.

02:27:17.000 And that's a fact.

02:27:18.000 That's just rhetoric.

02:27:18.000 When we kind of consider these tariffs alongside his policy disproportionately benefiting the

02:27:21.000 rich man and seemingly at the expense of the poor man with these tariffs, it becomes quite

02:27:26.000 clear if we want to serve to the average American in their best interests, we need to be voting

02:27:30.000 for Kamala Harris because her policy does exactly that. 1.00

02:27:33.000 I mean, 83% of the tax cuts in the TCGA.

02:27:36.000 Not at all.

02:27:37.000 83% of the tax cuts in the TCGA for the last seven years went to the top 1%.

02:27:42.000 I mean, is that just rhetoric?

02:27:43.000 Okay, so my turn?

02:27:44.000 Go for it, sir.

02:27:46.000 Okay, so with regard to tariffs, yes, some of the cost is passed down to the consumer, but it's marginal.

02:27:52.000 And the point of tariffs is to reshore manufacturing.

02:27:55.000 I'll give you a perfect example.

02:27:57.000 China has now become the largest manufacturer of electric cars.

02:28:01.000 Huge industry.

02:28:02.000 You could buy an electric car in China for $10,000.

02:28:04.000 Tesla does not cost $10,000.

02:28:08.000 If we allowed China to dump their electric cars in America, there goes Tesla.

02:28:13.000 There goes our American electric car manufacturing.

02:28:15.000 And it's a national security problem.

02:28:18.000 There's a lot of problems.

02:28:19.000 You have to put tariffs on the cars.

02:28:21.000 Probably China will send them here regardless because they're still so cheap.

02:28:25.000 And yeah, they're not going to be $10,000, but there's a value in making cars in America.

02:28:31.000 There's a value.

02:28:32.000 And by the way, because then Americans get those jobs.

02:28:35.000 So, you know, you could say that free trade creates the lowest costs, but the only reason it creates the lowest costs is because they can undercut us with wages and with their lower standard of living and monetary policy that they have in their own country.

02:28:49.000 So tariffs are essential for a holistic understanding of the economy.

02:28:53.000 The increase in prices is marginal.

02:28:55.000 It's not significant.

02:28:57.000 And when you call it a consumer tax or a sales tax, you know, that does matter because they're conflating that with a VAT tax.

02:29:04.000 That's very different.

02:29:05.000 The 15-20% to the, and I don't know that they're doing it on every country, so I'll take your word for it, it's not going to be passed down to consumers beyond a marginal amount.

02:29:14.000 That's one.

02:29:15.000 In terms of, you said, oh, well, Trump had more deficit spending.

02:29:19.000 Almost all of that is accounted for by the pandemic.

02:29:22.000 Almost all of it.

02:29:22.000 When you say, well, Trump had a $6, $8 trillion deficit.

02:29:26.000 That was because of the COVID stimulus, the PPP, the cash payments.

02:29:29.000 No, half of it was.

02:29:29.000 Not almost all.

02:29:30.000 Half of it.

02:29:31.000 Almost all of it.

02:29:32.000 And here's the point.

02:29:32.000 No, go to CRBS.org to look at it for yourself.

02:29:33.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

02:29:34.000 I'll let you finish.

02:29:36.000 You said, so the structural problems with deficit spending, they're there under Trump.

02:29:42.000 They're there under Harris.

02:29:43.000 And by the way, Republicans tried to get limitations on the deficit.

02:29:47.000 That's what they got elected on.

02:29:48.000 Republicans regained control of Congress in 22, saying they'd limit the deficit.

02:29:52.000 They negotiated it over the debt ceiling negotiations last year.

02:29:56.000 They negotiated it over military appropriations last year with the October 1st deadline.

02:30:01.000 Tried to negotiate it this year.

02:30:03.000 Democrats wouldn't come to the table on deficit reduction.

02:30:07.000 Either way, the deficit is baked into the cake.

02:30:10.000 The debt is $30 trillion.

02:30:12.000 Interest rates are high.

02:30:13.000 Interest to service, the debt is going up.

02:30:15.000 Neither Harris or Trump is meaningfully going to reduce the debt or the deficit.

02:30:20.000 So let's just moot.

02:30:21.000 Without bringing down Social Security and Medicare, just forget about it.

02:30:25.000 Without bringing down the military, it's not going to happen.

02:30:28.000 And there are these extraordinary measures like COVID and Ukraine war.

02:30:31.000 It's really neither here nor there.

02:30:33.000 Also, I mean, I think deficit is really besides the point.

02:30:36.000 If you want to get further into the deficit, though... First time I've heard a Republican say that, by the way.

02:30:40.000 Yeah, well, I'm not a normal Republican.

02:30:42.000 I'm not, like, a fiscal conservative, okay?

02:30:43.000 Look, the deficit... Do you mind if I respond to the points that you've made so far?

02:30:46.000 What's that?

02:30:47.000 Do you mind if I respond to the points that you've made so far?

02:30:49.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:30:49.000 I just want to lose track of what you said.

02:30:50.000 Sure.

02:30:50.000 So, like, first of all, you said that... Real quick, Dean, Dean, Dean, I'm not cutting you off.

02:30:53.000 Guys, we just have 10 minutes on this topic.

02:30:55.000 Just 10 more minutes on this topic.

02:30:56.000 Go ahead, Dean.

02:30:57.000 Okay.

02:30:58.000 Okay, right, so the first claim that you made, that tariff isn't passed off to the consumer, yeah, that's wrong, because what would the point of the tariff be then?

02:31:06.000 Okay, we see an increase in domestic production given tariffs because that is passed off to the consumer.

02:31:11.000 Would you agree there?

02:31:12.000 No, absolutely not.

02:31:13.000 Okay, so then why do we see an increase in domestic production given tariffs?

02:31:17.000 Because when you produce something in China, you can make it for cheaper, so your margin is bigger, so you can undercut prices.

02:31:23.000 But you make it more expensive for the consumer at the grocery store by imposing those tariffs, right?

02:31:27.000 And then secondly, I agree with you.

02:31:29.000 Not necessarily.

02:31:29.000 Again, because China will pay the tariff to get their goods to the market, because they need access to the market.

02:31:35.000 But then why won't we buy it?

02:31:36.000 But then why won't we buy it?

02:31:37.000 Because it costs more money.

02:31:38.000 Right?

02:31:38.000 And that's my whole argument.

02:31:39.000 Is that tariffs cause the end consumer to pay more at the grocery store.

02:31:43.000 To pay more at Best Buy.

02:31:44.000 To pay more at the car dealership.

02:31:45.000 Do you know what a tariff is?

02:31:46.000 There's another point that you brought up there.

02:31:48.000 It's a tax on an import.

02:31:49.000 And there's another point that you brought up there.

02:31:51.000 About how we want to like spur domestic production of goods.

02:31:54.000 I don't disagree.

02:31:55.000 I absolutely agree.

02:31:56.000 We should have a more industrialized economy.

02:31:59.000 Where we produce goods here at home in America.

02:32:01.000 We just disagree on how we get there.

02:32:03.000 Right?

02:32:03.000 I... How do we get there without tariffs?

02:32:06.000 Yeah, sure.

02:32:07.000 By driving further competition through the natural market.

02:32:11.000 We do that via investment.

02:32:12.000 What's the natural market?

02:32:14.000 We do that by investing in money.

02:32:16.000 Sorry, investing in money.

02:32:16.000 That was crazy.

02:32:17.000 Investing in U.S.

02:32:18.000 producers of goods, like the Chips and Science Act under Biden and Harris' administration.

02:32:21.000 That invested billions of dollars into U.S.

02:32:23.000 chip producers to further drive competition, right, with those imported goods just via innovation in the product, right?

02:32:30.000 And the fact that you as a conservative are sitting here telling me that we need a government to impose a regulation on the free market by tariffing those goods that are being imported to our country, it's just new.

02:32:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:32:42.000 Well, it may be new to you because, like, your only context of Republican is, like, Reagan.

02:32:48.000 But if you go back to Henry Clay and Friedrich List and the American system, Alexander Hamilton, the country was basically funded by tariffs until we had an income tax.

02:32:59.000 We only had an income tax a hundred years ago.

02:33:01.000 Before that, the federal government made its money from tariffs.

02:33:05.000 Yeah, but you know why?

02:33:06.000 Basic mercantilism, because we want to make the stuff.

02:33:08.000 And by the way, when you say, well, we're just going to invest, it doesn't work.

02:33:13.000 China's dollar goes three times as far because the standard of living is lower.

02:33:17.000 They're rich in raw materials.

02:33:19.000 They have an endless supply of labor, cheap labor.

02:33:23.000 The idea you're going to chip some science is your way out of China having systemic advantages, economic factors of production like labor.

02:33:30.000 They have a billion and a half people.

02:33:32.000 You're not going to pass a bill that's going to change those fundamental imbalances in the economy.

02:33:38.000 We have capital, we have tech, we have entrepreneurship, they have labor.

02:33:43.000 Okay?

02:33:43.000 It's the same reason, hang on, and it's the same reason why we're even, when we try to, they call it friend-shoring, we're going to take our factories from China and give them to our allies like Philippines.

02:33:55.000 It's still going to China because they have all the cheap labor. 0.97

02:33:58.000 You just can't compete with that.

02:34:00.000 You can't compete with the fact that they make everything, they have all the people.

02:34:04.000 So, you agree that we should re-industrialize.

02:34:07.000 You literally cannot do that unless you protect industry.

02:34:10.000 And by the way, China has tariffs too.

02:34:13.000 All countries have tariffs.

02:34:14.000 We're the country that doesn't have tariffs.

02:34:16.000 They're eating our lunch as a result.

02:34:19.000 So, you know, that's just not true.

02:34:20.000 What you're saying isn't true.

02:34:22.000 No, Donald Trump's taken away the average American's lunch as a result.

02:34:25.000 Like, once again, we've already went over how tariffs can cause prices at the grocery store to go higher.

02:34:30.000 Every single time we've historically increased tariffs on China, what have we seen?

02:34:33.000 A reduction in U.S. 0.54

02:34:34.000 agricultural exports.

02:34:36.000 What did Trump have to do when he imposed his tariffs on China?

02:34:38.000 He had to bail out American farmers with $28 billion.

02:34:41.000 You say you want American industrialization, you say you want more U.S.

02:34:43.000 production of goods, but then you also say that you want these tariffs on China to absolutely destroy American farmers.

02:34:49.000 And you want the average American to be worse off, meaning they have less economic mobility to go and start a business in the first place.

02:34:53.000 This is why Kamala Harris's tax policy is better, right? 1.00

02:34:56.000 Because what we're not going to do— This is just like Democrat talking points.

02:34:59.000 Okay, well can you dispute them?

02:35:00.000 Yeah, like I said, tariffs, the other country will pay the cost of the tariff, okay?

02:35:05.000 You're saying consumers will pay it, and that's just wrong, okay?

02:35:09.000 Under the Trump administration, hang on, Trump administration, I'll give you a perfect example.

02:35:14.000 Trump administration implemented tariffs against Canada, against Europe, against China.

02:35:20.000 Inflation was like 1.3% under Trump, okay?

02:35:25.000 So if what you're saying is true, that the cost of the tariff would be passed down to the consumer one-to-one or even significantly, inflation would not remain at or around 1%.

02:35:36.000 Why, if, if, and by the way, Biden administration has tariffs too.

02:35:39.000 Inflation is very high.

02:35:40.000 But the cost of goods going up has everything to do with fuel prices going up.

02:35:45.000 Hey guys, we got five more minutes.

02:35:47.000 And it's everything to do with... Five more minutes.

02:35:50.000 A very crucial point, a very crucial point here.

02:35:52.000 With the quantitative easing.

02:35:53.000 If they don't cause inflation of the pricing of goods at the grocery store, then why would we see an increase in domestic production?

02:36:00.000 Because it will make it competitive for America to make the same things.

02:36:05.000 How?

02:36:05.000 It's basic math.

02:36:09.000 I'm going to if you stop interrupting me.

02:36:12.000 If it costs less to make something in China because they have abundant labor

02:36:18.000 than it does in the United States, then China can sell it at a lower price because their cost

02:36:24.000 is lower. But if we make them pay more to bring their goods to the market, then they have to sell 0.88

02:36:32.000 it for more, or they have to pay the tariff and they make less profit.

02:36:37.000 Nick, you just agreed with me.

02:36:40.000 Can you stop interrupting me?

02:36:42.000 Chinese products cost more.

02:36:44.000 What does that mean for the consumer?

02:36:47.000 It adds, but who pays the cost?

02:36:50.000 China pays the cost to bring it to the market, not the consumer.

02:36:55.000 And who pays the cost once it's in the market?

02:36:58.000 Well, the consumer does.

02:36:59.000 Thank you.

02:37:00.000 But they're buying what they're already buying.

02:37:02.000 They're just buying it from an American producer.

02:37:06.000 Yeah, for a higher price, right?

02:37:08.000 Yeah, so for a slightly, marginally higher price, we can have American production.

02:37:13.000 Okay, okay.

02:37:14.000 But there's also economies of scale.

02:37:16.000 It stimulates American industry, and then America's able to produce what China would ordinarily produce.

02:37:24.000 Okay.

02:37:24.000 All right.

02:37:24.000 And America will produce it for a more expensive price because we don't have as cheap of labor as they are.

02:37:31.000 It protects the American industry.

02:37:33.000 By causing inflation, right?

02:37:36.000 Can you agree with me there?

02:37:36.000 Marginal.

02:37:37.000 Marginal.

02:37:38.000 It's marginal.

02:37:39.000 Marginal increases.

02:37:40.000 But either way.

02:37:41.000 We're getting somewhere.

02:37:42.000 But it's really not here.

02:37:43.000 Well, and I said that earlier.

02:37:44.000 So it's the same thing.

02:37:45.000 But either way, the Biden administration has tariffs too.

02:37:48.000 So it's basically a moot point.

02:37:50.000 No, it's not a meat pool, because once again, he wants to impose tariffs on all systems.

02:37:53.000 But you disagree with the Biden administration's policy, right?

02:37:56.000 Absolutely, right.

02:37:57.000 Okay, so what are we even arguing about?

02:37:59.000 Trump had tariffs, Biden has tariffs, tariffs protect industry in America, you support that.

02:38:07.000 No, so the reason that this is a bad argument is because Trump wants more tariffs, right?

02:38:12.000 I don't understand how this isn't evidently clear.

02:38:14.000 I think what you're trying to do is kind of confuse people between me saying that tariffs that Biden and Harris imposed were bad and me saying that when Donald Trump is elected, he wants to impose tariffs on all imported goods.

02:38:26.000 That's just not true.

02:38:27.000 One is worse than another.

02:38:28.000 They're not putting tariffs on all imported goods.

02:38:31.000 Okay, does he just want to keep the ones on China?

02:38:34.000 It's gonna be on pur- I don't know the Trump policy, but it's not on all imported goods.

02:38:37.000 That's just a democrat lie.

02:38:38.000 Okay, so then how is he gonna pay for the $4.8 trillion associated with this accident?

02:38:41.000 You can fact check that.

02:38:41.000 Borrowing.

02:38:42.000 Then how's he gonna pay for the- Borrowing.

02:38:44.000 Borrowing from who?

02:38:44.000 Like, they pay for all the- Like, how they pay for- Borrowing from- $175 billion to- And what's the biggest expense of our nation- of our government?

02:38:52.000 Liabilities.

02:38:53.000 Liabilities?

02:38:54.000 No, it's interest on debt.

02:38:55.000 Medicare or Social Security?

02:38:56.000 That's totally wrong.

02:38:58.000 No, the biggest expense of our federal government is interest on debt.

02:39:02.000 Totally wrong.

02:39:03.000 Okay, I don't think that's wrong.

02:39:05.000 It's liabilities.

02:39:05.000 I think that is totally correct.

02:39:07.000 Okay, we're wrapping up on time here.

02:39:08.000 Well, you're wrong on the Trump policy and you're wrong on spending.

02:39:11.000 You're just wrong.

02:39:11.000 We'll give a one minute closing to... Dean started, so one minute closing for Dean and then one minute for Nick.

02:39:20.000 Oh, you could go first, Nick.

02:39:23.000 Uh, who gave the first opening statement?

02:39:25.000 You or me?

02:39:26.000 It was Dean who started first.

02:39:27.000 Yeah, so Dean, we want to let Nick finish.

02:39:28.000 That means I go last.

02:39:29.000 That means I go last.

02:39:30.000 Dean, you start.

02:39:31.000 And then, Dean, the next one, Nick will start.

02:39:33.000 Okay, alright, yeah, that's fine.

02:39:35.000 I was just looking first, so I should justify what I said there.

02:39:37.000 Uh, so yeah, my closing statement would just be, right, obviously I think that economic policy is a very prime reason to vote for Kamala Harris, uh, because she's gonna make the average American better off. 1.00

02:39:46.000 Donald Trump is not gonna make the average American, uh, the better off.

02:39:48.000 He's gonna make them worse off with his tariffs.

02:39:50.000 Right, Nick essentially did concede there, saying that tariffs do cause higher prices for the consumers at the grocery store.

02:39:56.000 And then Nick also just kind of says that he doesn't really care about debt, okay?

02:39:59.000 So if you want more debt, vote for Donald Trump because he's going to throw 5.8 trillion dollars on our nation's debt.

02:40:05.000 Meanwhile, Kamala Harris's proposed tax policy is going to be self-sufficient over the 10-year lifespan of the bill. 0.87

02:40:09.000 And then one other final point here, there's much more reasons why Kamala Harris is a better candidate than Donald Trump that we didn't get a touch on, such as the fact that we probably shouldn't be voting for a rapist, we probably shouldn't be voting for a religious persecutor, we should probably be voting for the individual that's to enshrine federal protections for all 170 million American women and girls' right to choose, right?

02:40:28.000 And plenty of other reasons that we didn't get to, and I'm sad that we didn't, and hopefully we might be able to get back around to it later, but I'll go ahead and continue the rest of my time, take it away.

02:40:37.000 Yeah, all right.

02:40:38.000 Well, Aiden and Sneko, can we do immigration?

02:40:41.000 I feel like that's a big one.

02:40:42.000 We could do a few of these other issues.

02:40:46.000 Can you just do your statement really quick?

02:40:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:40:48.000 I'm just saying, like, can we make that one of the topics?

02:40:50.000 Well, that's something that we talked about prior.

02:40:52.000 Dean, if you would like to as well, we could do that in the next Can you repeat that?

02:40:56.000 that I was a little bit.

02:40:57.000 You want to talk about immigration or do you want to keep Trump or Kamala going?

02:40:59.000 We have other subjects, but on the subject of Trump or Kamala.

02:41:01.000 You guys didn't agree to that prior, but if you guys want to agree to do an immigration,

02:41:04.000 we can do that next.

02:41:05.000 It's up to you guys.

02:41:06.000 Both of you have to agree.

02:41:07.000 Yeah, you just want to see, I mean, like maybe we could throw it in there at the end.

02:41:09.000 I mean, get through the four topics we have agreed upon and if there's time, we might

02:41:12.000 be able to talk about it.

02:41:14.000 So please give your closing statement, Nick.

02:41:15.000 Yeah, so, I mean, my closing statement on Trump, I don't even think fiscal policy is the biggest issue.

02:41:21.000 To me, that's really a side issue.

02:41:24.000 And the reason is because both parties are profligate spenders.

02:41:27.000 Republicans, Democrats are both profligate spenders.

02:41:29.000 Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, they're all huge spenders.

02:41:33.000 They're huge spenders on the military.

02:41:34.000 They're not touching liabilities.

02:41:36.000 You know, there's talk about tax cuts increasing the deficit.

02:41:39.000 You could look at the Laffer curve.

02:41:40.000 and debate whether that's really the case.

02:41:43.000 I mean, the theory behind tax cuts is that it stimulates economic growth, which it certainly

02:41:48.000 does.

02:41:49.000 It brings in more tax revenue.

02:41:50.000 Maybe you find that convincing.

02:41:51.000 Maybe you don't.

02:41:52.000 The point is, neither party is going to rein in the deficit.

02:41:55.000 I just don't think it's an issue.

02:41:58.000 In terms of tariffs, the consensus has changed.

02:42:00.000 Democrats and Republicans used to be free traders.

02:42:03.000 They're not anymore.

02:42:05.000 Bill Clinton, Bush, Obama were free traders.

02:42:07.000 They're just not anymore.

02:42:09.000 Trump is not a free trader.

02:42:10.000 Biden's not a free trader.

02:42:12.000 Trump has tariffs.

02:42:13.000 Biden has tariffs.

02:42:14.000 And that's because there's a recognition that we need to have a supply chain in America.

02:42:18.000 85% of the economy in America is services.

02:42:21.000 Only 15% Is construction, agriculture and manufacturing.

02:42:25.000 And this is a big, it's not only a national security issue, but it's also a jobs issue.

02:42:29.000 We need to make stuff in America.

02:42:31.000 The only way that we're going to beat these other countries that are undercutting us with wages is with tariffs to protect our industries.

02:42:38.000 And yes, that does result in technically marginally higher consumer prices, but it's more important to have good jobs in industry.

02:42:46.000 All right, that was good.

02:42:47.000 So we can, we'll circle back to Trump and Kamala, but to keep it on the subject, we have four very different topics, right?

02:42:52.000 Real quick, before, I just want to say thank you both for giving you guys, you know, you guys are very, letting each other talk and stuff.

02:42:58.000 Thank you.

02:42:58.000 I appreciate that.

02:43:00.000 But go ahead, Sonequa, I'm sorry to cut you off.

02:43:02.000 All right, so the next subject that we agreed upon was Christianity, but to make it interesting, Nick, do you, we can be more specific.

02:43:08.000 We can talk about Christian nationalism.

02:43:11.000 Sure.

02:43:12.000 Okay, so the subject will be, is Christian nationalism good or bad?

02:43:17.000 Okay.

02:43:18.000 Well, I believe that America should have a religious government.

02:43:21.000 We should have a Christian Catholic government.

02:43:23.000 And, you know, we have to face the fact that liberalism has failed.

02:43:25.000 I'll give Dean a three minute intro and then we'll go free flowing

02:43:28.000 and if it's interruptions, we'll time it.

02:43:29.000 But it was, I think it was good so far, but it may take the four and three minutes.

02:43:32.000 Okay, well, I believe that America should have a religious government.

02:43:37.000 We should have a Christian Catholic government.

02:43:40.000 And, you know, we have to face the fact that liberalism has failed.

02:43:43.000 And the best example that liberalism is failing is that we're not having enough kids.

02:43:48.000 The society, the civilization that doesn't have kids will cease to exist and it will lose.

02:43:53.000 And it is losing.

02:43:55.000 Liberalism around the world is receding and these more ancient, tribal, perennial cultures are thriving.

02:44:00.000 Islam is the fastest growing religion.

02:44:02.000 China is on the rise.

02:44:04.000 Tribalism, racialism, all these things, all these revanchist, historic ideologies are on the rise.

02:44:11.000 And they're all beating back liberalism because liberalism is weak.

02:44:15.000 It is ineffectual.

02:44:17.000 It's causing all kinds of perversity, degeneracy.

02:44:20.000 People are not having kids.

02:44:22.000 It's just sort of like anti-human and inimical to the human body.

02:44:25.000 So, I mean, in addition to Catholicism and Christianity being true, liberalism He's clearly bankrupt.

02:44:33.000 Liberalism is clearly having a hard time.

02:44:35.000 I think we should replace our state religion of liberalism with the state religion of Christianity, and I'm interested to see where Dean wants to take it, because obviously it's a huge topic, but I think we should have a Catholic country, not a liberal atheist one.

02:44:50.000 Yeah, I think that there's a lot of different ways that a conversation about Christian nationalism can go.

02:44:55.000 I mean, I've debated people on Christian nationalism before that will concede even if Christianity's false, right? 0.99

02:44:59.000 We should still be, alright, a country that upholds Christian nationalism because it promotes better outcomes. 0.58

02:45:04.000 But I think there's a couple points there that I just like to respond to real quick about declining birth rates.

02:45:10.000 Immigration.

02:45:11.000 That's crazy.

02:45:12.000 Then about, you know, a couple of the other points that you brought up.

02:45:16.000 I particularly think that Christian nationalism is bad because it doesn't allow us to effectively legislate. 1.00

02:45:22.000 Given, like, the Christian religion, right, we are led to believe that particular things are wrong because God said so. 1.00

02:45:28.000 You said that you're Catholic.

02:45:29.000 I think in the Catholic faith you'll kind of have Different range on how bad things are.

02:45:33.000 Something can be a mortal sin, a venial sin, but something that I'd say here that is a very absurd conclusion given Christian nationalism is shit like blasphemy. 0.95

02:45:41.000 So like blasphemy, as defined by the Bible, is the worst sin that anyone can commit.

02:45:45.000 Does that mean that people should go to jail for life for blasphemy?

02:45:48.000 Well, I don't know because we know that people should go to jail for life for murder, and if blasphemy is worse than murder, and we're operating under a system in a society with a government that legislates on the basis of the Bible and these foundational beliefs as prescribed by Christianity, Are we gonna start sending people to jail for blasphemy, too?

02:46:04.000 I don't see how you'd be able to respond to that.

02:46:06.000 I don't.

02:46:07.000 And then, like, a couple other things that we could say here.

02:46:09.000 The Bible promotes very harmful, bad beliefs.

02:46:11.000 I mean, 1 Samuel 15 3, God tells Saul and his men to genocide the Amalekite men, women, and girls.

02:46:16.000 I bet if I was to engage in a conversation with this guy specifically about 1 Samuel 15 3, he'll end up saying that sometimes genocide's okay.

02:46:23.000 Leviticus 25 verses 44 through 46, God tells the Israelites that they can own the non-Israelites as human property for life. 0.84

02:46:29.000 I mean, if I was to have a conversation with this guy about that topic, he'd end up saying that, no, slavery hasn't always been wrong, alongside other things.

02:46:36.000 Right?

02:46:36.000 So we could talk about how Christianity is false.

02:46:39.000 We could talk about how it doesn't allow us to effectively legislate.

02:46:41.000 We could talk about the absurdities that are already present in the Bible.

02:46:44.000 But one last point that I'd like to bring up is if you're going to make an argument on the basis of the efficacy and the outcomes in which it would generate in society, which seemingly you started to there, well, what if we find another religion that generates better outcomes than the one that you hold to?

02:46:57.000 Okay, so if the reason that you want a Christian nation is because it will promote human well-being and happiness, people are going to be having more kids and following these commandments, they'll be doing good, no degeneracy, none of that shit, well, what if I told you that the LDS church had even better outcomes than the Catholic church?

02:47:12.000 Would you all of a sudden be in support of an LDS-led state?

02:47:15.000 Probably not!

02:47:16.000 Okay?

02:47:17.000 Right?

02:47:17.000 So that's another contradiction on its own, so feel free to kind of pick and choose there, respond to the point that you want, take it away.

02:47:23.000 Yeah, so you said about birth rates or immigration.

02:47:27.000 Well, here's the problem, okay?

02:47:29.000 One, the people that have liberalism are killing themselves, okay?

02:47:34.000 So the people that invented liberalism, that live in liberal societies, literally and figuratively are killing themselves.

02:47:41.000 They're committing suicide.

02:47:42.000 They're dying from desert despair.

02:47:43.000 They're addicted to drugs, all kinds of things.

02:47:44.000 They're all dying over there, okay?

02:47:45.000 We're dying in America.

02:47:46.000 We're dying in Europe.

02:47:47.000 No confidence in liberalism.

02:47:49.000 They commit suicide, they die from desolate despair, they're addicted to drugs, all kinds

02:47:54.000 of things.

02:47:55.000 They're all dying over there.

02:47:56.000 Okay, we're dying in America, we're dying in Europe.

02:47:58.000 And by the way, these people come from non-liberal or illiberal societies, and then their birth 0.78

02:48:04.000 rate goes down.

02:48:05.000 So even if you wanted to argue, oh, well, like, you know, we could salvage liberalism with an endless supply of immigration from illiberal societies that have kids, when they get here, their birth rate goes down. 0.74

02:48:18.000 And these are not liberal people.

02:48:20.000 They come from Illiberal places like China or Africa or Latin America, they come here, they assimilate, and within a few generations the birth rate goes down because liberalism is suicidal.

02:48:32.000 With regard to the question about efficacy and outcomes, I'm not arguing that we should have the religion with the best efficacy.

02:48:38.000 I said liberalism has failed.

02:48:40.000 And we know it's failed because it's committing suicide.

02:48:43.000 So clearly liberalism as a system is not working.

02:48:47.000 And that's why, you know, it's such a radical notion.

02:48:49.000 People think that we would have blasphemy laws or religious laws.

02:48:53.000 They think it's a radical notion.

02:48:54.000 It's unthinkable.

02:48:55.000 The current system.

02:48:57.000 Must be replaced.

02:48:59.000 It's an imperative.

02:48:59.000 It's not a question of, you know, whether or how or anything like that.

02:49:03.000 It simply must be because it will cease to exist.

02:49:06.000 And so that's really the crux of the argument.

02:49:09.000 You know, why it should be Catholicism?

02:49:10.000 It's because Catholicism is true. 0.69

02:49:12.000 But the point I'm trying to make is for people that say it's so radical that we would go backwards.

02:49:18.000 I would say we went backwards with liberalism as evidenced by the fact that it's not even reproducing itself.

02:49:24.000 And that's a huge problem.

02:49:26.000 With regard to the stuff about the Old Testament, I mean, look, the Catholic Church, Christians today are not in favor of genocide or slavery.

02:49:33.000 You know, if you want to get into that, this is just like New Atheism 101.

02:49:38.000 Like, are you an atheist?

02:49:39.000 Let me just say, are you an atheist or something? 0.98

02:49:41.000 I'm an agnostic, but I wouldn't particularly use these verses in the Bible to say that your religion is false.

02:49:47.000 I use these verses in the Bible to say that your religion is absurd. 1.00

02:49:49.000 I know, wait, wait, wait, but I just wanted to ask you that, and then let me finish the last point.

02:49:54.000 So, it's very funny when atheists who have no objective source of morality, it's like, you know, their morality is something like, hey man, just leave everybody alone.

02:50:04.000 What if I disagree?

02:50:05.000 What if my morality says, well, I want to kill everybody or something?

02:50:08.000 What if the majority of people said, our morality says, well, we want to harm, and we want to rape, and we want to do this and that.

02:50:14.000 An atheist has no God that says, well, you know, so-and-so has the authority to say this is correct. 1.00

02:50:21.000 That's a problem.

02:50:22.000 And yet, they have a problem with blasphemy laws.

02:50:24.000 It is good to have a God that is a source of authority, that gives us our morality, that is unquestionable.

02:50:31.000 With regard to the Old Testament, if you want to get into the debate about, you know, what's bad, I would start with the question of how do you know what's bad?

02:50:38.000 You claim that certain things are bad.

02:50:40.000 You don't know where good and bad comes from.

02:50:42.000 And how do we know the good and bad are even real?

02:50:45.000 If we're all material, If we're only atoms and we don't have souls, why does it matter what happens to any of us?

02:50:52.000 I mean, what is justice?

02:50:54.000 Is there such a thing as the conceptual?

02:50:57.000 If there is only matter, where is the conceptual?

02:51:00.000 Can we see it?

02:51:01.000 Can we feel it?

02:51:01.000 Is it located somewhere?

02:51:03.000 So, well, and I'm making a point here.

02:51:06.000 I'll wrap it up quickly.

02:51:07.000 So, for an atheist to point to the Old Testament and say, well, you know, how could a God who does these things be so immoral?

02:51:15.000 I would say to the godless, what is moral and who are we if we're not just Yeah, well, I mean, I think what needs to be interrogated is the fact that you asked me, well, what do I do if a group of people likes to murder, rape, and kill others?

02:51:27.000 viewpoint now with this kind of lame like, Sky Daddy isn't real sort of stuff.

02:51:31.000 So, you know, there's just a lot of assumptions there that kind of need to be interrogated.

02:51:35.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I think what needs to be interrogated is the fact that you asked me,

02:51:39.000 well, what do I do if a group of people likes to murder, rape and kill others?

02:51:42.000 What if God said that?

02:51:45.000 Then we would have to do it.

02:51:46.000 You know, I think that's a question that we need to ask.

02:51:48.000 Then we would have to do it!

02:51:49.000 Wait, wait, really?

02:51:50.000 If God told you to rape and kill a baby, would you do it?

02:51:54.000 Well, God would never do that because God is good and those things are evil.

02:51:57.000 Okay, so raping and killing is evil, so when he commanded people to kill the babies in the Amalekites in 1 Samuel 15 3, that was evil?

02:52:03.000 God is telling us to rape and kill babies right now? 0.99

02:52:07.000 So, specifically about killing, in 1 Samuel 15 3, he did command Saul and his men to kill the Amalekite babies. 0.91

02:52:12.000 Rape babies? 1.00

02:52:12.000 He told them to rape babies? 1.00

02:52:14.000 No, to kill babies. 0.96

02:52:16.000 Well, yeah, then if I were one of those guys, I would have done it, but not rape them. 0.97

02:52:19.000 Okay, so if God commanded you to kill a baby today, would you do it?

02:52:22.000 Yes.

02:52:24.000 Okay, so why would you kill a baby, but you wouldn't rape a baby? 0.68

02:52:27.000 Because that would be... cruel or something.

02:52:30.000 Wait, is killing a baby not cruel?

02:52:33.000 In the Old Testament, it worked differently.

02:52:35.000 No, I'm talking about, you said, you particularly said that you would kill a baby today if God asked you, but you wouldn't rape a baby if God asked you.

02:52:43.000 So how come you'd kill a baby today, but not rape a baby?

02:52:46.000 Because the context of the Old Testament is that it's a fallen world.

02:52:49.000 And that's the context you're talking about.

02:52:51.000 You said that in the Old Testament, God said... Dude, we're not talking about the... Dude, please answer my question.

02:52:56.000 We literally are.

02:52:56.000 This is a damn inanswer.

02:52:57.000 You told me today... Wait, wait, wait.

02:52:59.000 If we're not talking about the Old Testament, what are we talking about?

02:53:02.000 About the fact that you told me today, if God commanded you to kill a baby, you would do it, and then I followed that up by asking you, if God commanded you to rape a baby, would you do it, and you said no because that's cruel.

02:53:11.000 But God wouldn't do that because it's evil.

02:53:13.000 Okay, so killing a baby today, you would do if God commanded it, but raping a baby today, you wouldn't do because God wouldn't command it because it's evil.

02:53:20.000 Are you making the implication that killing a baby today isn't evil?

02:53:23.000 No.

02:53:24.000 What you said is that in the Old Testament- Okay, so then you wouldn't do that either, right?

02:53:26.000 Well, hang on, hang on.

02:53:27.000 Let's rewind.

02:53:28.000 Let's rewind because you said in the Bible God says to rape babies.

02:53:31.000 Can you just retract that?

02:53:32.000 No, I said kill babies. 1.00

02:53:33.000 No, if you rewind- No, I said kill babies. 0.99

02:53:35.000 Yeah, okay.

02:53:35.000 People can rewind the clip.

02:53:37.000 You said kill and rape babies because you gotta- and rape people because you got a little ahead of yourself.

02:53:41.000 Because you got a little ahead of yourself.

02:53:43.000 Nick, I would literally clear this up so easily.

02:53:45.000 If I said God commanded Saul and his men to rape babies in 1 Samuel 15 3, I misspoke.

02:53:51.000 In 1 Samuel 53, God commands Solomon to kill babies.

02:53:55.000 But you are not answering my question.

02:53:56.000 This is a standing on answer.

02:53:57.000 Every single person watching this stream can see that you said if God commanded you to kill a baby today, you said you would do it.

02:54:04.000 Can you affirm that fact?

02:54:05.000 Can we be serious?

02:54:06.000 Can we be serious for a second?

02:54:07.000 We are being dead serious.

02:54:08.000 Can you affirm the fact that you said if God told you to kill a baby, you'd do it? 0.65

02:54:10.000 Can we be serious?

02:54:11.000 Can we grow up?

02:54:12.000 Why won't you answer my question?

02:54:13.000 Well, because we're talking about the Old Testament, are we not?

02:54:16.000 Dude, we're talking about today.

02:54:18.000 How many times do I need to say that?

02:54:19.000 You're talking about the Old Testament.

02:54:21.000 You're citing the Old Testament.

02:54:22.000 You're talking about a specific verse in the Old Testament.

02:54:25.000 Oh my god, this is crazy.

02:54:25.000 Look, you can giggle, but can we confirm that we're talking about the Old Testament?

02:54:30.000 Is that correct?

02:54:31.000 No.

02:54:31.000 What are we talking about?

02:54:32.000 Exactly.

02:54:33.000 I'll tell you exactly what we're talking about.

02:54:35.000 We are talking about the fact that I asked you a damning hypothetical question.

02:54:38.000 I asked you- It's not.

02:54:40.000 It's a cheap- One moment.

02:54:40.000 Do you mind if I have 30 seconds?

02:54:41.000 It's a cheap context- No.

02:54:42.000 No.

02:54:42.000 It's a cheap context denial.

02:54:43.000 You're interrupting me because you don't want me to talk because you know that you're losing.

02:54:46.000 Yeah, because the Old Testament says bad things in it.

02:54:49.000 I know, I'm a new atheist and I just discovered... Here's my answer to your question, if you'll allow me to answer it.

02:54:55.000 I know you want a cheap gotcha question, but let's add a little context.

02:54:59.000 The Old Testament takes place in a fallen world.

02:55:01.000 We live in a fallen world because we have free will.

02:55:04.000 Okay.

02:55:05.000 God created human beings.

02:55:06.000 Human beings disobeyed God and sinned. 0.99

02:55:09.000 Because we disobeyed God and sinned, we have the penalty of death, war, shame, guilt, pain at birth, all these things.

02:55:17.000 In the fallen world, people kill.

02:55:20.000 In the fallen world, people kill.

02:55:22.000 People lie, cheat, steal.

02:55:24.000 Cain kills Abel.

02:55:26.000 In the world, the fallen world, before Jesus Christ arrived, it was a world with slavery and warfare and iniquity.

02:55:34.000 It is in this context That God commanded the chosen people to kill certain tribes to establish their survival to secure a line for the coming of the Messiah. 0.80

02:55:46.000 God does not approve of killing because it says in the Ten Commandments, thou shalt not kill.

02:55:50.000 God does not approve of rape because it says thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

02:55:55.000 And so on and so forth.

02:55:57.000 So God obviously does not support Killing, raping, would you kill and rape a baby?

02:56:02.000 No.

02:56:03.000 But in the Bible, God prescribes laws and specific actions at the beginning of the world which was fallen without Christ, without a Savior in sin, for the survival of the chosen people.

02:56:16.000 So the rules worked a little bit differently in the Old Testament.

02:56:19.000 It doesn't mean that And of course, taking a life in and of itself, hang on, there's a difference everybody knows between killing and murder.

02:56:28.000 If I go and murder you for no reason, that's immoral.

02:56:31.000 If I kill in self-defense or self-defense of my children, it's a different story.

02:56:36.000 God commanding the people of the Old Testament is an extraordinary exception based on the fallen old world.

02:56:42.000 That's one.

02:56:44.000 When Jesus Christ arrives, he fulfills the law and saves people from hell.

02:56:48.000 Before Jesus Christ arrived, nobody could even go to heaven.

02:56:52.000 And it was a world of iniquity.

02:56:53.000 And Jesus Christ changed and created this modern world that we're living in.

02:56:56.000 So, now here's the thing.

02:56:58.000 God is the authority.

02:57:00.000 If God commands us to... Look, I know it's a complicated issue.

02:57:03.000 You can't fit it into a TikTok where you do the destiny drive-by and say, Trump's making your grocery prices higher!

02:57:08.000 You know, but it's actually a complicated issue.

02:57:10.000 We're talking about evil, the existence of evil.

02:57:13.000 So, does that mean that God is not an authority?

02:57:17.000 Of course not.

02:57:18.000 God is an authority.

02:57:18.000 Would God command us to do those things today?

02:57:21.000 Probably not.

02:57:22.000 But if he did, in a hypothetical scenario, we'd have to trust God if we truly believe in God.

02:57:26.000 Otherwise, you would say something like, we know more than God, or God is not good, or we're better than God, and that negates the concept of a God or good itself.

02:57:35.000 So that's my answer to your, oh, so when you say killing babies, it ties into like abortion policy.

02:57:42.000 It's just like cheap, low IQ, left-wing bullshit.

02:57:45.000 But anyway, go ahead.

02:57:46.000 Cool, thank you.

02:57:48.000 So I hear everything that you just said.

02:57:49.000 I will give that a great response.

02:57:52.000 I sure did.

02:57:53.000 But before I give that a response, I wanted to take a brief moment to go back to the question that I was attempting to get you to answer prior.

02:58:00.000 I understand that you just kind of gave me the story of the old and new covenant.

02:58:03.000 We had different rules before, you know, the Messiah came back down, created a new covenant, whatever.

02:58:06.000 I get it.

02:58:07.000 Thank you.

02:58:07.000 Okay.

02:58:08.000 But the question that I asked you, I answered the question.

02:58:10.000 I answered the question.

02:58:11.000 You didn't.

02:58:11.000 Okay.

02:58:11.000 would you do it?" You said yes. I then asked you, Niquentas, if God commanded you to rape a baby, would you

02:58:18.000 do it? And you said, no, that's too cruel. If you'd like to take 15 seconds to

02:58:22.000 kind of clear up that gap, like, does that make the implication that killing a

02:58:25.000 baby isn't cruel? 0.99

02:58:26.000 I answered the question. I answered the question.

02:58:28.000 You didn't.

02:58:30.000 Okay. Is this a debate about Christian nationalism or is this like a weird new atheist?

02:58:35.000 By the way, why do you think killing is wrong?

02:58:38.000 Where do you get that information from?

02:58:40.000 So, first of all, I don't think that killing is inherently wrong.

02:58:42.000 I think that murder is wrong, okay?

02:58:44.000 Okay, so you agree with me then.

02:58:46.000 Right, and then what I'd say here about murder is that's just going to be driven given my intuitions.

02:58:50.000 I'm a subjectivist, we all know this, but I think you are too.

02:58:53.000 You're a subjectivist.

02:58:55.000 Would you agree with me that objectivism can be defined as like a stance independent like truth?

02:59:01.000 Uh, it's an independent truth?

02:59:03.000 What did you say?

02:59:03.000 I didn't hear you.

02:59:04.000 Like, a stance independent truth.

02:59:06.000 That's what it means.

02:59:07.000 A stance independent truth?

02:59:09.000 Yeah.

02:59:11.000 Of independent truth or that there is independent truth?

02:59:14.000 Okay, wow.

02:59:15.000 The sentence construction doesn't make sense.

02:59:17.000 Okay, so, like, in, like, philosophy, right, when we're referencing terms such as moral objectivism or moral subjectivism, we define objectivism given, like, uh, when I say murder is wrong, that is true independent of any stance of any act or of any mind, okay?

02:59:29.000 When I say something is objectively true.

02:59:30.000 Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying.

02:59:31.000 I don't understand the, uh, the construction.

02:59:33.000 I'm not, you're, you're, like, mumbling to yourself.

02:59:35.000 Yeah, I believe, yeah, subjectivism is that there's an independent truth, yes.

02:59:39.000 Okay, so is morality independent of God?

02:59:43.000 No.

02:59:43.000 No, because God is morality.

02:59:45.000 God is good.

02:59:45.000 So a morality is subject to God.

02:59:49.000 Okay.

02:59:50.000 Could God create a box so heavy he couldn't lift it?

02:59:53.000 Yeah, that's great.

02:59:54.000 So if you believe that killing is not— Wait, that would be a contradiction.

02:59:56.000 I didn't give you a contradiction.

02:59:58.000 I just showed you that you're a moral subjectivist.

03:00:00.000 I know.

03:00:00.000 Thank you.

03:00:01.000 So where do you believe that killing is wrong then?

03:00:06.000 So you believe it's subjective, you don't believe it's absolutely wrong.

03:00:10.000 Oh, what's that Aiden?

03:00:13.000 10 minutes guys.

03:00:14.000 Great, yeah, so I mean I could go ahead and give you a little bit of an overview of my stance here on morality.

03:00:21.000 So, meta-ethically, you know, I'm just gonna be a subjectivist, a relativist, uh, when we like to, uh, when we like to reference, like, why I think things are wrong.

03:00:28.000 It's just gonna be, uh, driven, like, given driven by intuitions.

03:00:30.000 Uh, I mean, like, we could talk about different moral frameworks.

03:00:33.000 I, myself, am what is called a threshold deontologist, meaning that I believe that, uh, like, particular things could be always wrong, but meanwhile we should consider, like, the consequences of others.

03:00:41.000 It's pretty interesting.

03:00:42.000 Is Holocaust wrong? 0.97

03:00:44.000 Yeah, the Holocaust was wrong. 0.93

03:00:45.000 Objectively?

03:00:47.000 Uh, no, because objective truths in the context of morality doesn't exist.

03:00:51.000 In your opinion, it's wrong.

03:00:55.000 In accordance with my index standard, it's wrong, yeah.

03:00:57.000 But I mean, just saying, oh, you believe in subjectivism, but I'm gonna, like, counter that by asking you, is it objectively wrong?

03:01:04.000 That doesn't really achieve anything.

03:01:05.000 I could literally ask this question to you.

03:01:06.000 What is your qualification?

03:01:07.000 Was the Holocaust objectively wrong? 0.98

03:01:09.000 Of course it was wrong.

03:01:10.000 Of course it was objectively wrong.

03:01:10.000 But you disagreed with me that morality is subject to God.

03:01:13.000 Because morality is God.

03:01:15.000 It's identity, not subjectivity.

03:01:17.000 Wait, God is identical to morality?

03:01:19.000 Yes, God is good.

03:01:20.000 God is the good.

03:01:22.000 Okay, so when I say that, like, hugging your mom is good, I'm just saying that hugging your mom is God?

03:01:26.000 Yes.

03:01:28.000 Okay, so can you just say that for me?

03:01:29.000 Like, every single time you kiss your wife, that's a really God thing to do?

03:01:34.000 Love is good.

03:01:36.000 An act of love that expresses love is good.

03:01:39.000 God is the good.

03:01:41.000 God is being itself.

03:01:43.000 We are participating in being.

03:01:46.000 Oh wait, now we have some more issues here, because earlier you told me that God would never command you to like, rape a baby because that's evil, but now you're saying that God is identical to goodness.

03:01:54.000 Meaning, if God is all-powerful in the sense that he could do anything that's logically possible, and he's identical to goodness, why wouldn't he be able to tell you to rape a baby?

03:02:03.000 Did you say grape?

03:02:05.000 I did, TikTok words.

03:02:06.000 I know, I know.

03:02:07.000 Well, God also tells us that God's plan is very complex.

03:02:13.000 Why won't you answer my question?

03:02:15.000 Because these are just like low IQ... No, that's not a low IQ point at all.

03:02:19.000 We're literally talking about what you think goodness is, what its derivative, and how it would apply to your God.

03:02:24.000 Actually, we could extrapolate this out to the problem of evil as a whole, right?

03:02:27.000 Like you actually said earlier that you think that the Holocaust is objectively wrong. 0.66

03:02:30.000 Would you say all things... If it happened at all, by the way.

03:02:33.000 But yeah, it's like, theoretically, if it happens- What the fuck?!

03:02:37.000 Of course it happened! Of course it happened!

03:02:39.000 Do you see what the fuck- do you see what I'm talking about?

03:02:41.000 Like, no. Do you see who the fuck we're talking to, Aiden?

03:02:43.000 Yeah, this guy's over here saying, Oh my gosh!

03:02:47.000 Oh my gosh!

03:02:49.000 But then he asks me if the Holocaust is objectively wrong.

03:02:51.000 Get a load of this joker.

03:02:53.000 Get a load of this joker!

03:02:55.000 How about another joke?

03:02:57.000 What do you get?

03:02:58.000 You need to unmute your mic.

03:02:59.000 Get a load of this.

03:03:01.000 You want to tell me another joke?

03:03:02.000 Keep talking.

03:03:03.000 I'm gonna go ahead and ask you a question.

03:03:04.000 What do you say all things considered that the Holocaust is wrong?

03:03:08.000 If it were real, yes.

03:03:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.

03:03:11.000 And it is!

03:03:11.000 And it absolutely is!

03:03:12.000 You're so fucking spineless!

03:03:14.000 How the fuck can you sit in front of 45,000 people and say that the most well-documented thing that has ever happened in history might not have happened?

03:03:23.000 I want to ask you a question.

03:03:24.000 How the fuck do you know that Jesus resurrected from the dead, but you don't know if the Holocaust happened? 0.72

03:03:29.000 Shroud of Turin.

03:03:29.000 Please answer that question.

03:03:30.000 Shroud of Turin.

03:03:31.000 Shroud of Turin.

03:03:33.000 The Shroud of Turin is a more reliable standard for evidence than the 250 indisputable sources that would justify that the Holocaust exists.

03:03:40.000 Listen, this isn't a Holocaust debate.

03:03:42.000 Let's try to stay focused.

03:03:43.000 This is a Christianity debate.

03:03:45.000 No, let's talk about it.

03:03:46.000 The Shroud of Turin specifically, we had four different groups of scientists take different parts of it.

03:03:50.000 I'm just saying 6 million is a lot.

03:03:51.000 None of them could date it back to anything after 400 years A.D.

03:03:55.000 I'm just saying it's a lot of people.

03:03:57.000 No, no, I want you to tell me how the fuck you know that Jesus rose from the dead with a lack of any historical evidence that exists from during his lifetime from a first-person experience that you don't think the Holocaust happened. 0.80

03:04:10.000 This is a factual debate, Kamala.

03:04:11.000 Tampon Tim.

03:04:13.000 Yeah, go for the M-U-P-O-N, Tim.

03:04:14.000 This is about facts.

03:04:16.000 One, Shroud of Turin.

03:04:17.000 Impossible to create other than with Jesus ascending into heaven.

03:04:22.000 That's one.

03:04:23.000 Two, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, that's a lot of bodies.

03:04:28.000 Unless they forgot the technology to cremate them.

03:04:32.000 Look, I don't know!

03:04:32.000 I wasn't there!

03:04:33.000 And you weren't either!

03:04:35.000 Wait, so you're telling me that it was absolutely impossible for the Shroud of Turn to exist?

03:04:42.000 Oh, you don't know the facts!

03:04:45.000 Tell me why the earliest carbon dating on the Shroud of Turn that we've gotten from the material used to create the Shroud of Turn is like from 1200 AD.

03:04:52.000 That's not true.

03:04:56.000 That's not even true.

03:04:57.000 They just did a new study on it and they proved it's 100% real.

03:05:01.000 Proved it's 100% real.

03:05:03.000 It's like super real.

03:05:05.000 That's one.

03:05:07.000 Two, we have secular historians that testify that Jesus was a real person and was crucified.

03:05:13.000 Josephus Tacitus.

03:05:15.000 Josephus isn't secular.

03:05:16.000 Let's get our facts straight.

03:05:17.000 He was a Jewish historian.

03:05:18.000 Okay, he was Jewish.

03:05:19.000 Okay, he was Jewish.

03:05:20.000 I mean non-Christian. 0.99

03:05:21.000 Thank you for the clarification.

03:05:22.000 We're secular, you mean non-Christian?

03:05:24.000 Are we good?

03:05:25.000 You know what I meant.

03:05:26.000 I mean, if you were to say that a Christian source is biased, then arguably a non-Christian source would be unbiased. 0.73

03:05:32.000 That's the point.

03:05:33.000 Josephus Tacitus.

03:05:34.000 But you also have the earliest versions of the gospel stories going back to the first century.

03:05:39.000 The earliest fragments of it go back to the first century.

03:05:42.000 And you have people that went to their death.

03:05:44.000 That's part of why Christianity spread.

03:05:46.000 They went to their death.

03:05:47.000 The Christians were martyred, testifying that they saw a resurrected Jesus. 0.61

03:05:52.000 Liars don't go to their death testifying that something happened if it didn't.

03:05:55.000 Certainly not Excuse me, 11 out of 12 of them, or every single one of them.

03:06:00.000 And that is the basis of how it spread in the ancient world.

03:06:04.000 So, I mean, there's the Shroud of Turin, there's non-Christian historians, there's the fragments of the Gospel.

03:06:12.000 There's prophecies that are fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament.

03:06:15.000 The Shroud of Turin, that shit just goes straight out the fucking window.

03:06:18.000 We have carbon dated it.

03:06:20.000 Not a piece of it dates back to when Jesus was alive in accordance with Josephus and Tacitus, which you reported.

03:06:25.000 Carbon dating is flawed.

03:06:27.000 Carbon dating is flawed.

03:06:28.000 And that's not true.

03:06:29.000 It's earlier than it is, but we just don't know it.

03:06:32.000 And that's not true.

03:06:32.000 Well, one, it's not real.

03:06:34.000 Because carbon dating says it like dinosaurs do.

03:06:36.000 And how do we know that it was from Jesus?

03:06:40.000 And two, there was a recent study done that showed that it literally would not even be possible, using the technology at the time, to create a forgery.

03:06:50.000 So, it had to have been created by something with luminosity that just didn't exist back then for it to imprint throughout the entire shroud.

03:06:58.000 They didn't have that kind of technology back then.

03:07:00.000 Wait, I have a question.

03:07:01.000 It's impossible to create it any other way.

03:07:02.000 Do you mind if I ask you a question here?

03:07:04.000 Okay, so I like this argument.

03:07:05.000 Let's just go ahead and say that you're right.

03:07:07.000 It was impossible to create without some sort of divinity.

03:07:10.000 Jesus Christ is a prophet of the Islamic religion.

03:07:14.000 Can you please give me any reason to believe that Christianity is true, more so than Islam being true? 1.00

03:07:20.000 That's just a stupid question because... That this luminosity could be granted, either Islam being true or Christianity being true? 0.97

03:07:27.000 Let me ask you this question.

03:07:28.000 Do you know what Muslims believe about Jesus Christ and the crucifixion?

03:07:31.000 Can you tell me?

03:07:32.000 The prophet of God, he didn't actually die on the cross, someone else stepped in his shoes... Oh!

03:07:37.000 Oh! 0.60

03:07:38.000 So what was the Shroud of Turin, do you know?

03:07:40.000 Oh, it was over him and the burial.

03:07:43.000 Ah, so how would we know Islam isn't true? 1.00

03:07:46.000 Well, let's see, if he wasn't actually crucified, then how would they lay the shroud over his body and his soul leave to make the imprint?

03:07:55.000 So it doesn't, you don't even know what you're talking about.

03:07:56.000 I mean, no, you don't know what you're talking about, because given the Islamic religion... Try to work it out on the fly, doesn't even know, doesn't even know the order of, how could it, how could the Muslim Jesus leave the shroud of Torah and imprint if he was never crucified and then therefore resurrected? 1.00

03:08:08.000 No, because what did they say about the person that was crucified?

03:08:10.000 Hello?

03:08:11.000 What did they say about the person that was crucified?

03:08:13.000 Who did he look like?

03:08:15.000 Who did he present as?

03:08:16.000 But he wasn't Jesus, so he wouldn't have ascended into heaven and left the luminosity.

03:08:20.000 It would be his lookalike.

03:08:21.000 Oh my god!

03:08:22.000 Oh, that's terrible!

03:08:23.000 Yeah, you could say that, but you don't know what you're talking about.

03:08:25.000 Oh wait, I don't know what I'm- No, normal people, they said it was a body double.

03:08:30.000 Someone who looked like Jesus.

03:08:32.000 Normal people don't leave a luminous imprint on the shroud they put on them at the point of death.

03:08:37.000 So the lookalike wouldn't have done that.

03:08:39.000 Wait, I'm just curious.

03:08:40.000 Can you give me the study?

03:08:42.000 I don't know the name of it off the top of my head, but it was recently completed.

03:08:46.000 You should investigate it.

03:08:47.000 You'd probably become a Christian if you're being objective, even though you just stumbled and you don't know what Islam is.

03:08:52.000 Real quick, let's do a two-minute closing statement. 0.94

03:08:54.000 We're going to start with you, Nick.

03:08:58.000 Sure.

03:08:58.000 So, I mean, the good news is we just had a platform to demonstrate the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus.

03:09:04.000 You do have real archaeological evidence like the Shroud of Turin.

03:09:09.000 You have the Gospels.

03:09:10.000 You have the secular historians.

03:09:11.000 No serious historian would testify that Jesus wasn't real or didn't live or wasn't crucified.

03:09:16.000 And if Christianity thread throughout the Roman Empire, it's because of the well-documented martyrdom of the disciples of the early church.

03:09:24.000 If you would go to your death testifying that something, a lie or a fabrication didn't happen, you know, then maybe you believe they all faked it.

03:09:31.000 I think that you go to your death only if you saw something true.

03:09:34.000 And even still, people won't tell the truth if they're afraid of the mafia.

03:09:38.000 You would only go to your death telling the truth if it was God in the flesh.

03:09:42.000 So, I think that's just all obvious.

03:09:45.000 With all that being said, we should have a Catholic government.

03:09:47.000 We all have a conscience.

03:09:49.000 The moral law comes from God.

03:09:50.000 It's also written on our hearts, and we know it.

03:09:53.000 And that's where our intuition comes from, this subjective idea that we get from rationality or empiricism that murder is wrong, that rape is wrong, the same objections agnostics and atheists raise against the Bible.

03:10:06.000 You know, and the thing is about the Old Testament, if people are turned off by that, it really

03:10:10.000 just amounts to the problem of evil itself.

03:10:13.000 Evil exists in the world.

03:10:14.000 It was created by a good God.

03:10:16.000 This is answered by the philosophical concept of the privation of evil.

03:10:20.000 Prior to the coming of Jesus Christ, it was a world without the good, and therefore it

03:10:25.000 was evil, and thus there was no mercy, compassion, those sorts of things.

03:10:30.000 But it's a very complicated topic.

03:10:31.000 I hope people aren't turned off when they hear, you know, bad things happen in the ancient

03:10:35.000 world, therefore there can be no God.

03:10:37.000 It's obviously false.

03:10:39.000 So anyway, so that's just the long and short of the whole Christian debate distilled.

03:10:44.000 Yeah, sure.

03:10:44.000 So I'll go to give my closing statement now.

03:10:47.000 First about the Shroud of Turin, anyone watching, feel free to look up any of the multiple groups of scientists that have dated the Shroud of Turin.

03:10:55.000 Not a single one of them have been able to place a date on the Shroud of Turin from a point when Jesus was alive.

03:11:01.000 So that's automatically thrown out of the window.

03:11:03.000 About Nick's second point there, specifically about the people that went to their deaths after seeing the quote-unquote resurrected Jesus, this is something we see in all religions.

03:11:12.000 I want you to go ahead and look at Prophet Muhammad's grandson in the context of the Islamic religion.

03:11:17.000 He was martyred because of his beliefs in his grandfather being a prophet of God.

03:11:21.000 That's present always.

03:11:22.000 If this makes a religion true, all religions would be true. 0.71

03:11:25.000 About your third point about the historicity of Jesus Christ, we have no first-hand accounts about Jesus Christ or his life.

03:11:31.000 I do think that he was a real man that lived and died via a crucifixion.

03:11:36.000 But Josephus, Tacitus, all these people came long after he died, and I think it's crazy that you're gonna sit here and say that we have sufficient historical evidence to justify that Jesus Christ died and resurrected from the dead, but we don't have historical evidence to justify that the Holocaust happened and 6 million Jewish people died.

03:11:52.000 I can give you a source right now that 6 million people did die.

03:11:55.000 In fact, I could give you 200.

03:11:56.000 For everyone watching, look up holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com.

03:12:00.000 It will give you an index to publish evidence on mass extermination in Auschwitz in Germany.

03:12:06.000 There will be over 200 sources there.

03:12:08.000 Much more abundant evidence than what he could ever give for the existence of Jesus Christ and the idea that he's our God.

03:12:14.000 So already contradictory there.

03:12:16.000 And about the last point about the problem of evil, you said that the privation of evil was the fact that there wasn't a lot of good before Jesus came?

03:12:23.000 No, the privation of evil is an ontological statement of evil, okay?

03:12:27.000 So you don't know what your philosophical terms mean.

03:12:29.000 You're also confusing what the problem of evil is, okay?

03:12:33.000 Right?

03:12:33.000 I would say my problem of evil would be the fact if God's all good.

03:12:37.000 God's all perfect, and God's all powerful, and nothing evil should exist in the world that we live in.

03:12:42.000 I wish that we could have a longer discussion about this, man.

03:12:44.000 Get into philosophy, show you that you don't know shit.

03:12:46.000 But I guess we're gonna move on to the next topic.

03:12:49.000 Thank you, guys.

03:12:49.000 That's funny.

03:12:51.000 We're gonna do topic number three.

03:12:52.000 Is, uh... Is homosexuality bad? 1.00

03:12:56.000 And we'll start with Dean again.

03:12:58.000 I'll give you a three-minute intro.

03:13:00.000 Same thing the next three minutes, and then I like the free phone.

03:13:02.000 It's been good so far.

03:13:03.000 I probably won't need all three minutes.

03:13:12.000 It'll be pretty easy.

03:13:13.000 I don't think that being gay is wrong because there's no good reason to believe that it 0.99

03:13:16.000 is wrong.

03:13:17.000 There are just multiple arguments that anyone could probably give me.

03:13:20.000 One would just be gay wrong because Sky Daddy says so in the Bible. 1.00

03:13:23.000 Another argument he can give me is something to do with like telos, like the natural function of our bodies.

03:13:27.000 It would indicate that we have a prescriptive purpose on how we're supposed to use them.

03:13:30.000 That's not how we're supposed to use them.

03:13:31.000 I'd say that doesn't exist.

03:13:33.000 At the end of the day, my stance is clear.

03:13:34.000 Being gay is not wrong because there's no reason for it to be wrong.

03:13:37.000 And I guess we'll just hear Nick's reason why it is wrong because that's probably where we're going to start.

03:13:41.000 So I'll concede the rest of my time.

03:13:42.000 Take it away, Nick.

03:13:43.000 Okay, yeah, um, I love the Sky Daddy thing.

03:13:47.000 It's like the idea that there's a transcendent God.

03:13:50.000 You think there's a man in the clouds and I don't because I listen to science.

03:13:53.000 It's just like the most brain-dead new atheist. 0.90

03:13:57.000 I'm surprised this stuff still exists.

03:13:59.000 Bro, you told me that you'd kill a baby if God told you to.

03:14:01.000 Hey, Dean, Dean, Dean.

03:14:02.000 You have three minutes that are up.

03:14:03.000 Dean, Dean, no more interruptions.

03:14:04.000 Yeah, silence!

03:14:06.000 Silence while I attack your position!

03:14:08.000 So, here's the thing, okay?

03:14:10.000 The homosexuality thing, I mean, we could argue that the faculty of the reproductive organs is to have sex. 1.00

03:14:18.000 The purpose of them is to have sex. 0.95

03:14:20.000 We have sexual organs to have sex, and sex is for the purpose of insemination, procreation, that's what it is. It's not—we

03:14:27.000 can't get too creative. It always ends the same way, and it's made for one purpose. We could

03:14:32.000 argue that there is a prohibition of it in the Catholic catechism and in the Bible, but I don't

03:14:38.000 even think we need to go that far.

03:14:40.000 It's really a question of whether we think people can do whatever they want.

03:14:45.000 And this gets back to morality.

03:14:47.000 If your conception of morality comes from, you know, a vague idea of empathy or do no harm, you know, against harm, then you would say there's nothing necessarily wrong with suicide, drug abuse, homosexuality, gluttony. 0.99

03:15:04.000 You know, laziness, all kinds of other behaviors, because people say, we own our bodies, we can make decisions, we're empowered, and we can kind of do whatever we want, as long as we don't interfere with other people, as long as there's not an imposition on other people.

03:15:18.000 That's really the fundamental premise.

03:15:20.000 I reject that premise.

03:15:22.000 I think that because we're created beings, we're created with a sense of dignity.

03:15:27.000 Our souls and our bodies are connected, and God wants us to be dignified.

03:15:32.000 And I think we all recognize that there are things that are dignified and things that are undignified.

03:15:36.000 It's undignified to be an addict.

03:15:39.000 It's undignified to be lazy.

03:15:41.000 It's undignified to undergo a transgender surgery. 1.00

03:15:45.000 It's undignified to do plastic surgery.

03:15:48.000 And yes, it is undignified to engage in sodomy.

03:15:51.000 One minute.

03:15:52.000 What is it?

03:15:52.000 One minute?

03:15:54.000 Yeah, one minute.

03:15:55.000 So, you know, sodomy is something that is violent, it's filthy, it's undignified, and I think it's a travesty.

03:16:03.000 It's such an unfortunate thing.

03:16:05.000 You know, people celebrated the way these flags, but they're waving a flag of really a filthy and violent and gross act that I think any, you know, anybody has a natural sense of morality would reject it.

03:16:17.000 So, I mean, I just think it's disgusting and things that are disgusting are probably wrong.

03:16:22.000 Okay, your argument, it's disgusting, therefore it's wrong.

03:16:25.000 Hey Nick, got a question.

03:16:26.000 Is shitting disgusting?

03:16:29.000 Uh, no.

03:16:31.000 Shitting is wrong!

03:16:33.000 Good point.

03:16:37.000 That's a good point.

03:16:38.000 That's the argument you're getting.

03:16:39.000 I never thought of it that way.

03:16:41.000 You said, you said it's disgusting, therefore it's wrong.

03:16:43.000 Yeah, shit, shitting, that's pretty gross.

03:16:45.000 It's a pretty good heuristic, yeah.

03:16:46.000 It's a pretty good... Well, and look.

03:16:48.000 That's, that's, that's the account, that's part of it.

03:16:49.000 Well, if you want to, yeah, okay, if you want to talk about... It's literally so fucking simple.

03:16:53.000 Like, I mean, if your argument is, oh, this is aesthetically unpleasing, therefore I find it disgusting, therefore I'm going to describe it as being morally wrong.

03:16:59.000 This is just, like, so low IQ.

03:17:00.000 First of all, do you mind if I... No, it's not low IQ.

03:17:02.000 Go ahead, yeah, go ahead.

03:17:03.000 Explain, explain, explain your, uh, your syllogism.

03:17:06.000 Yeah, sure.

03:17:07.000 So anyways, here's my perspective.

03:17:09.000 You're just saying that you find it disgusting given your subjective mental states that lead you to the conclusion that it is something that's non-aesthetic.

03:17:17.000 I think it's funny that you're giving me this argument when you've been chirping down my throat for the last 30 minutes that we need to rely on some objective standard to tell us what's right and wrong even when we disagree.

03:17:26.000 But now you're like, oh, my mental states are not conducive towards me finding this to be aesthetically pleasing, therefore it's morally wrong.

03:17:33.000 It's just a little bit, you know, out of reach for you.

03:17:37.000 But overwhelmingly, I don't even know if I should give a dignified response to what you just told me.

03:17:42.000 Nick just said, I don't like it, therefore it's wrong.

03:17:45.000 You also referenced a couple other things there about just engaging in dignified actions.

03:17:50.000 Once again, that's another, I don't like it, therefore it's wrong, right?

03:17:53.000 I could say that being Nick Fuentes and talking about how six million people didn't die at the Holocaust is undignified, and all of a sudden, in my worldview, you're going to fucking jail, right?

03:18:03.000 But I think that if you're gonna make the argument that it's either wrong to be gay or it's wrong to engage in same-sex intercourse, You're gonna have to give me a little bit more reason than the fact that it doesn't align with what's aesthetically pleasing to you.

03:18:16.000 Are you gay?

03:18:16.000 Let me- Are you gay, just to establish for the debate?

03:18:20.000 No, I'm straight.

03:18:21.000 Unlike you, I'm empathetic.

03:18:22.000 I'm able to place myself in other people's shoes and see the world from a perspective and realize- You're empath- You place yourself in gay people's shoes?

03:18:28.000 Yeah, yeah, and I can see how terrible people like you are.

03:18:30.000 To imagine what it would be like to be gay?

03:18:33.000 No, I imagine what it would be like to be at the receiving end of your fucking tyranny.

03:18:36.000 The receiving end?

03:18:37.000 You empathize with the receiving end, huh?

03:18:40.000 What is that like?

03:18:41.000 Yeah, like the tyranny of you and the other, like, white Christians that just come out and say, Oh, tyranny. 0.88

03:18:45.000 Gay so bad, therefore we're gonna persecute these people. 1.00

03:18:48.000 If you're empathizing with a gay man, are you gay?

03:18:50.000 Okay.

03:18:51.000 Interesting.

03:18:51.000 Do you think about, like, gay sex?

03:18:53.000 Do you empathize with gay sex at all? 1.00

03:18:56.000 Why is it always the homophobic straight men that want to talk about gay sex?

03:18:59.000 It's a debate about homosexuality.

03:19:02.000 Yeah, but you're getting a little bit too personal.

03:19:04.000 Nick, I have a girlfriend.

03:19:05.000 I'm sorry.

03:19:06.000 Okay.

03:19:06.000 I'm just asking.

03:19:08.000 I'm just asking.

03:19:09.000 I know.

03:19:10.000 I know.

03:19:11.000 I'm just asking.

03:19:12.000 One of the many.

03:19:13.000 So, here's the thing.

03:19:16.000 I didn't say if it's disgusting, it's wrong.

03:19:19.000 What I mean is, it's a pretty good heuristic that something is disgust—if something is found to be disgusting, it's probably wrong.

03:19:28.000 And here's—you brought up fecal matter.

03:19:30.000 You brought up—you said shit.

03:19:31.000 I'll say fecal matter.

03:19:32.000 I'll be polite.

03:19:34.000 Fecal matter is offensive to us.

03:19:37.000 It has an offensive odor, it has an offensive look, and so on.

03:19:41.000 Why is that?

03:19:42.000 Why do we find it disgusting?

03:19:44.000 Why are we repelled by it?

03:19:45.000 Because if we were to handle it and touch it, we would get sick and die.

03:19:50.000 If we were to eat it, we would get sick and die.

03:19:52.000 If we don't properly dispose of it, it would poison the community and we would die.

03:19:56.000 So, the act of excreting waste is not an evil act, but fecal matter in itself, it disgusts us on an instinctual basis for a very good reason.

03:20:09.000 Okay?

03:20:09.000 And that's why it's a heuristic.

03:20:10.000 And we find the same thing about surgery and blood, you know, and about snakes and about spiders.

03:20:18.000 There's a reason for that.

03:20:19.000 And the same thing is true about homosexuality. 0.91

03:20:22.000 Now, it's like, you look at the homosexual act. 1.00

03:20:25.000 Okay, if it's you- Do you mind if I respond to that?

03:20:28.000 Yeah, go ahead.

03:20:29.000 Sure.

03:20:30.000 Sure.

03:20:30.000 Yeah, you're just- Further, like, I look at it- Further what?

03:20:33.000 You're just not hearing me.

03:20:35.000 So, I am.

03:20:36.000 I am.

03:20:36.000 So, this same intuition- You're not empathizing.

03:20:39.000 The same intuition that you're describing to me and like the other how many people are

03:20:43.000 watching I don't even know, is essentially that you have this innate driven psychological

03:20:48.000 response that when you look at this it's bad.

03:20:50.000 You kind of related this to looking at shit and because when you look at shit it's bad,

03:20:54.000 you know, that's like driven via the fact that if you eat it, it could give you like

03:20:58.000 bacteria, it can make you sick, whatever.

03:21:00.000 Okay?

03:21:01.000 But here's my point.

03:21:02.000 The same innate like prejudice driven response that you are holding towards gay people that

03:21:08.000 lead you to the conclusion that it's thereby wrong is the same innate driven prejudice

03:21:12.000 response from white supremacists towards black people.

03:21:16.000 So what would you say to a white supremacist giving you the same exact argument that you're giving me about gay people but about black people?

03:21:25.000 What if they made the argument that they just feel on some innate behavioral level that it is just wrong to be black?

03:21:31.000 When I look at black people I feel this way and that way, the same way that you're describing to me right now.

03:21:35.000 And the reason that I think this point is so important to bring up here is, well, you're just describing your prejudice.

03:21:43.000 Okay, well I would say first of all, I don't have a prejudice against gay people.

03:21:48.000 I really don't.

03:21:49.000 I'm describing the act.

03:21:51.000 I'm describing the act of what they're doing, which is filthy.

03:21:54.000 If you look at a guy walking down the street, for the most part, like, let's say it was a guy wearing, like, guy's clothes, but he was gay.

03:22:03.000 You wouldn't know he was gay.

03:22:04.000 And your disgust reflex wouldn't be triggered.

03:22:07.000 But when you think about sodomy, when you think about sodomy, which involves a whole host of gross stuff.

03:22:13.000 I mean, they have to take drugs to loosen their buttholes. 1.00

03:22:16.000 They have to flush out their buttholes of poo because the penis is going where poo is. 1.00

03:22:21.000 This is disgusting stuff.

03:22:23.000 And the idea of it's disgusting.

03:22:25.000 And it's the act which is disgusting.

03:22:26.000 So it's got nothing really to do with prejudice or anything like that.

03:22:29.000 It's that the act itself... Hang on, hang on, hang on.

03:22:33.000 And by the way, it's also universal.

03:22:35.000 It's universal and it's instinctual.

03:22:36.000 There was a study that was done, for example, that said that men who witnessed two gay men kissing had the same disgust reflex as seeing maggots.

03:22:45.000 I'm sure you've heard of that.

03:22:46.000 Nick, I'm just trying to get you to recognize... Can you not interrupt me?

03:22:49.000 Why do you interrupt me every single time?

03:22:51.000 I'm trying to make a point here.

03:22:52.000 A white business owner in the 1960s would have said the same thing that you're saying about gay people right now.

03:22:58.000 about black people going into their business.

03:23:00.000 No.

03:23:00.000 I asked you a question, the reason why I'm interrupting you here is because you're not giving me a response.

03:23:03.000 It's a false syllogism.

03:23:04.000 It's a false syllogism.

03:23:05.000 You're bringing in white supremacy to ho- Homosexuality is a behavior. 1.00

03:23:09.000 Can I tell you particularly?

03:23:11.000 No, homosexuality is not a behavior.

03:23:12.000 It is a behavior.

03:23:14.000 Okay, so what do you say that a behavior would involve action?

03:23:16.000 Obviously, homosexuality is a behavior. 1.00

03:23:18.000 It means, if a man, if a man is attracted to another man, but never has sex, is he really homosexual?

03:23:28.000 Oh, wait, I have a question.

03:23:29.000 Was Jesus straight?

03:23:32.000 I don't think he had a sexuality, because he was God.

03:23:35.000 Okay, so it's perfect not to be attracted to women because Jesus was perfect and he wasn't attracted to women?

03:23:40.000 What are these false... It's always just like bullshit.

03:23:43.000 I have a question.

03:23:44.000 You don't like gay people?

03:23:45.000 What about white people not liking black people?

03:23:47.000 Was Jesus straight?

03:23:49.000 What'd you say here?

03:23:50.000 Huh?

03:23:50.000 You said if you never engage in gay sex then you're not gay.

03:23:53.000 So, Nick... I didn't say that.

03:23:54.000 I said homosexuality is sex... is an act. 1.00

03:23:57.000 It's an act.

03:23:58.000 Oh, okay.

03:23:59.000 So you said if you don't engage in gay sex, you're not homosexual because homosexual is predicated on the action. 0.99

03:24:04.000 I didn't say that.

03:24:04.000 I said it's an action.

03:24:06.000 Yeah, so you're telling me if you don't engage in that action, then you're not that.

03:24:09.000 Dude, how fucking... Do I need to write it on a piece of paper?

03:24:12.000 If you are a person that engages in that act, you are that person.

03:24:16.000 Right, so no.

03:24:16.000 What I'm telling you is that sexual orientations are not defined upon the actions that you engage in.

03:24:21.000 What are they defined on?

03:24:22.000 On your attractions, right?

03:24:24.000 And I'll give you a really good reason to believe this.

03:24:26.000 Nick, at what age should you lose your virginity?

03:24:27.000 Like 25?

03:24:28.000 I haven't.

03:24:29.000 I haven't.

03:24:29.000 I'm Catholic.

03:24:30.000 Oh, shit.

03:24:31.000 When do you get married?

03:24:32.000 Nick, you're not straight by your definition because you've never engaged in the action of heterosexual intercourse.

03:24:38.000 It's true.

03:24:39.000 I'm asexual.

03:24:40.000 I'm an asexual incel.

03:24:41.000 You can't get out of this one.

03:24:42.000 So you're gonna make a joke because you know you can't get out of this one.

03:24:45.000 It's not a joke!

03:24:46.000 Wait, so Nick, you're not straight?

03:24:48.000 Not yet.

03:24:50.000 But I will be.

03:24:52.000 Nick Fuentes is not straight.

03:24:54.000 Nick Fuentes is not straight, ladies and gentlemen.

03:24:57.000 I want to make that one clear.

03:24:59.000 I want to make that one very, very clear.

03:25:02.000 That was good.

03:25:03.000 So do you now see why we should predicate the definition of- My sexuality is incel.

03:25:07.000 It's involuntarily celibate.

03:25:09.000 So do you now see why we should predicate the definition of, like, straight and gay based upon attraction?

03:25:13.000 No, no, I think homosexuality's an act. 1.00

03:25:17.000 Oh, okay, okay.

03:25:18.000 So if you think being straight's an act too.

03:25:20.000 Alright, so Nick Fuentes is not- Okay, that's the absurdity that I'll reach.

03:25:24.000 If you want to say that, like, being straight is predicated based upon the action, then go for it. 0.99

03:25:30.000 It just means that Nick Fuentes isn't straight, okay?

03:25:33.000 And then also, I want to talk about that action.

03:25:36.000 You're empathizing with gay people.

03:25:38.000 If you're envisioning yourself being gay, you're not straight either, buddy.

03:25:42.000 If you're empathizing, if you're getting in their head, getting in their shoes, getting in their wherever, Okay, okay.

03:25:47.000 I don't know, I think it seems like you're kind of all the above.

03:25:49.000 But, I mean look, this is really childish.

03:25:52.000 The question is whether it's moral.

03:25:54.000 Please tell me about your empathy.

03:25:56.000 I want to hear about it.

03:25:58.000 Which partner do you empathize more with?

03:26:00.000 The one that's on top or the one that's on bottom?

03:26:02.000 I'm curious.

03:26:03.000 Where's the empathy directed?

03:26:05.000 Right, I got a question.

03:26:06.000 God's all-knowing, right?

03:26:07.000 Here we go.

03:26:08.000 Yes.

03:26:08.000 So God knows what it's like to get fucked in the ass by two dudes.

03:26:11.000 So if God empathizes with it, why can't I?

03:26:13.000 That's great.

03:26:13.000 Very good.

03:26:14.000 Very good.

03:26:15.000 No, God doesn't empathize with those people.

03:26:17.000 God casts those people off.

03:26:18.000 Oh, terrible.

03:26:19.000 Terrible.

03:26:20.000 Oh, that's so bad.

03:26:21.000 That's great.

03:26:21.000 It's very low IQ humor.

03:26:24.000 Uh, it's very low IQ humor.

03:26:26.000 No, you're getting fucking dunked on repeatedly.

03:26:28.000 I thought you'd be a better debater.

03:26:29.000 You're the guy that said you're empathizing with gay people, and you're saying that poo isn't filthy or something? 0.99

03:26:34.000 Oh no, so once again, my argument was, is that you have absolutely no reason to believe that being gay is wrong, and the existence of yourself alongside others just like you, that hold this baseless, trivial prejudice, has led to generations of members of the LGBT- One moment, let me cook.

03:26:48.000 Unless the generations of members of the LGBT community... Let me cuck. 1.00

03:26:52.000 You're getting a little bit frustrated.

03:26:54.000 Sir, do I need to put the polka dots?

03:26:56.000 No, no, no, no.

03:26:56.000 Give us the whole acronym.

03:26:58.000 Yeah, so generations of the LGBTQ plus community, right, have lived under an oppressive system because people like you like to open up the front door of their house and then scream and shout how wrong it is to love another person in a consentful adult and non-incestuous relationship.

03:27:13.000 It is absolutely fucking insane to me, and here, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, oh Dean, you're boring me because I'm able to empathize with other humans.

03:27:21.000 Is that like a new concept to you?

03:27:21.000 Oh brother, yeah, no, because you're a really good person.

03:27:24.000 Being in favor of gay sex means you're a really good person and you empathize with people and care.

03:27:28.000 It has nothing to do with whether you believe there's a natural law or anything and things we ought to do or not do with our bodies.

03:27:36.000 It's because you're a really fucking wholesome good person.

03:27:38.000 You're a wholesome chungus. 1.00

03:27:40.000 What reason do you have to believe, right, that It's bad.

03:27:43.000 Look, homosexuality is bad for people. 1.00

03:27:45.000 I mean, it's an unnatural act because it's incompatible.

03:27:49.000 Wait, can you define unnatural?

03:27:50.000 It's unnatural.

03:27:50.000 It's filthy.

03:27:51.000 It's violent.

03:27:52.000 It doesn't work.

03:27:52.000 I mean, what is a sexual act?

03:27:55.000 What is a sexual act?

03:27:55.000 Wait, can you please define unnatural?

03:27:57.000 Ten minutes, guys.

03:27:57.000 Ten minutes on this topic.

03:27:59.000 Yeah, like, the sexual act... That's contrary to its purpose, contrary to its nature.

03:28:04.000 Okay, so you're saying it's contrary to its nature.

03:28:06.000 Yes.

03:28:06.000 So you're saying that, like, every part of your body has a nature, the nature of the penis isn't to enter into an asshole?

03:28:13.000 Correct, yes.

03:28:14.000 Okay, what's the nature of your lips?

03:28:17.000 To do everything that a lip does.

03:28:20.000 Like eat food, talk, speak, that?

03:28:22.000 I'm sure, yeah.

03:28:23.000 So it's wrong to kiss your girlfriend because that's going against- No, they're made for that too. 1.00

03:28:26.000 They're made for that.

03:28:27.000 That has a purpose in sexuality as well.

03:28:30.000 If you could say that your lips are made for kissing your girlfriend, why can't I say that the pee-pee's made for being inserted into the asshole?

03:28:37.000 Because the asshole isn't meant to be penetrated.

03:28:39.000 Because when that happens, it has long-term health effects.

03:28:42.000 You could look.

03:28:43.000 There are a lot of, like, ex-homosexuals that talk about how they have long-term... I mean, I don't want to get graphic, but they have to wear diapers. 0.96

03:28:50.000 They have to wear diapers.

03:28:52.000 Because it's not natural.

03:28:52.000 So long-term health effects equal unnatural.

03:28:56.000 Uh, yeah, if you're persistently doing something that leads to long-term chronic problems like that, yeah.

03:29:03.000 Also, it's dirty, and that's why there's disease that results from that as well.

03:29:07.000 I think that this is another trivial argument.

03:29:08.000 Would you say that it's wrong to play the piano because you're unnaturally using your fingers to hit the keys that could lead to long-term health effects?

03:29:14.000 No, because it's not contrary to its nature.

03:29:17.000 Oh wait, but it leads to long-term negative health effects, and some people it could lead to like their hands seizing up, or I forget the particular word, but it essentially leads to very like bad long-term health effects like within the hands.

03:29:27.000 So like, given your logic, why wouldn't you say that it's wrong to play the piano?

03:29:30.000 Granted, right, that it's not in the nature, right, that was a trivial assumption, and it leads to negative long-term health effects.

03:29:36.000 Well, it's obvious because, because, I mean, what do we, what do we call the penis?

03:29:39.000 It's a sexual organ.

03:29:41.000 It's for the purpose of sex. 0.57

03:29:44.000 Fingers are a little bit different.

03:29:46.000 Lips are a little bit different.

03:29:47.000 They have all kinds of different potential utilities and things like that.

03:29:51.000 But the sexual organ is directed towards the sexual function.

03:29:54.000 I mean, why do we... The reason the penis is shaped like it is, the reason... Okay, now you're going to interrupt me.

03:30:01.000 The reason that it's shaped like it is, and positioned where it is, and all those things, it's for one purpose.

03:30:06.000 The reason that it... I mean, not to get graphic, but the reason it does all the things it does is for the purpose of insemination.

03:30:12.000 It's not for the purpose of inseminating a person's colon or rectum.

03:30:15.000 And, by the way, a butthole has literally one purpose, okay?

03:30:19.000 A butthole has one purpose, which is to excrete waste.

03:30:23.000 Not for other things like that.

03:30:24.000 Okay, so do you mind if I give you my stance on this?

03:30:26.000 I'm gonna give you my stance.

03:30:27.000 Yeah, let's hear it.

03:30:28.000 Well, it is a debate, so I wouldn't mind that at all, actually.

03:30:31.000 Yeah.

03:30:31.000 So, I mean, I don't think that we could prescriptively define the function of, like, any part of our body, or really, like, anything for that matter.

03:30:38.000 We could only descriptively define them.

03:30:40.000 Like, I could give you a good analogy here.

03:30:42.000 Like, if you went to, like, a hardware store, like Lowe's or Home Depot, right, and you went to buy a hammer, and the instruction manual on this hammer tells you that it's supposed to put nails into wood, well, I mean, all of a sudden, you are misusing the hammer if you're not putting nails in the wood.

03:30:57.000 But if you go into the middle of the forest and you find a rock in the shape of a hammer identical to the one in Lowe's, you're not doing anything wrong regardless of how you use it because there wasn't any intention behind its design.

03:31:07.000 And that's exactly what I would say about the human anatomy.

03:31:10.000 There was no conscious intention behind the design of the human anatomy.

03:31:13.000 I think that we could descriptively define how we use parts of our body, and I think you kind of implicitly conceded to this earlier when you told me that it's in my nature to use my hands to play the piano or to use my mouth to kiss my girlfriend.

03:31:25.000 Yeah.

03:31:25.000 Those are not intentful, prescriptive claims that you're making about the function or use

03:31:30.000 of my hands.

03:31:31.000 These are going to be descriptions about how we can use my hands, about how we can use

03:31:35.000 my lips, and that's exactly how I'd reference these sexual organs. 0.98

03:31:39.000 And the only way for you to justify your claim, that there is intention behind the design

03:31:42.000 of the human anatomy to justify that there's incorrect uses of it, would be God.

03:31:46.000 And of course, I dispute the existence of God.

03:31:49.000 You couldn't prove that God exists.

03:31:50.000 If we had 30 minutes, I could be able to give you an argument to show that it's logically

03:31:53.000 impossible for the Christian God to exist. 0.99

03:31:55.000 So I think what it's best for you to do right now is to either concede your position or

03:31:59.000 just say it outright.

03:32:00.000 You think being gay is wrong because God said so. 1.00

03:32:03.000 You think being gay is wrong because you trivially believe that God built our bodies to function in a particular manner that is adjacent to the use that you like to describe to our fingers or to our mouths.

03:32:13.000 Say it out loud.

03:32:15.000 Well, like I said, if you were listening at the very beginning of my opening statement, I said we are created and we are ensouled and our souls and our bodies have to be treated with dignity.

03:32:26.000 And yes, you're 100% right.

03:32:28.000 I mean, if you believe that if you're a nihilist or a materialist and you believe there's only matter and everything is subjective, then yeah, like there's no problem with putting this in there and that over there.

03:32:40.000 But if you think that we are created and if you think there is such a thing as a natural law and a moral law, Then we would have to abide by what we can assume are these functions, or what we are told are the functions by revelation.

03:32:52.000 If you believe in a religion with revelation, then it's revealed.

03:32:56.000 If you believe in a religion which is philosophical, then you have to deduce it rationally.

03:33:02.000 When you look at something like the anus, you know, E. Michael Jones has a famous quote about this, the anus is not a sex organ.

03:33:08.000 It's obviously not.

03:33:09.000 It's there for one purpose.

03:33:10.000 And I think, you know, we all sort of know, like, yeah, of course you can do these things.

03:33:15.000 No one's arguing that you can't.

03:33:16.000 Of course you can.

03:33:18.000 It can be done.

03:33:19.000 You're capable of doing it.

03:33:20.000 The question is ought.

03:33:22.000 Should we do these things?

03:33:24.000 You know, and if these things are contrary to their nature, and there's evidence that this is the case because they result in problems, then we probably shouldn't.

03:33:32.000 And you don't even necessarily need to believe in God to understand that.

03:33:35.000 I think that, hang on, I'm not totally finished.

03:33:38.000 I think that even if you don't believe in God, I think there are a lot of people that actually don't believe in God that still find it to be a A kind of degenerative, indulgent, but hang on, undignified practice.

03:33:52.000 I'm not finished yet.

03:33:53.000 You're very disrespectful in that way.

03:33:55.000 I'm so respectful and you're being very rude the way you're chirping with these little eruptions.

03:33:59.000 And the thing is, I mean, let's imagine what it is when they're walking down the street waving that flag.

03:34:06.000 It represents A filthy violent act where you're evacuating fecal matter out of your bowels to make room for sex and it's never fully gone and this is why they get AIDS because you're putting a sexual organ where the shit is and that's just something that like yeah is objectively gross I think for very good reasons which is a pretty good heuristic that it's also immoral and so 0.63

03:34:29.000 You know, people that are same-sex attracted, people that are tolerant of same-sex attracted persons, and people that are not, I think, should all be able to recognize that sodomy is something that is, there's something deeply wrong with it, and it should be avoided, even if you're not religious. 0.69

03:34:44.000 Let's do closing statements, one minute each, I'll give one minute to Dean, and then one minute to Nick, we'll go on to the next topic.

03:34:49.000 Great, thank you so much.

03:34:51.000 So Nick Fuentes made two arguments.

03:34:53.000 The first argument that Nick Fuentes made was that I think it's gross, therefore it's wrong.

03:34:58.000 In Nick's closing statement, what he will not do is give me the logical distinction with him saying, gay gross, therefore wrong, and a white supremacist saying, being black gross, therefore wrong.

03:35:09.000 There's no logical distinction between the way in which those two beliefs were formed, and he won't be able to give it to me.

03:35:14.000 The second argument that Nick made here was that we can deduce that it's not within the teleological use of these sex organs to use them in such a manner where the penis is inserted into the anus, because doing so can reap long-term negative outcomes.

03:35:33.000 Okay?

03:35:33.000 Right?

03:35:34.000 He will not be able to give me the difference between saying, this is why gay sex is wrong, and me saying, well, it's wrong to play the piano, because when you use your hands to do so, this can reap negative long-term outcomes, such as arthritis. 0.73

03:35:48.000 So, those two arguments alone show us all that Nick's logic here is unreliable because of the absurdities in which they yield.

03:35:56.000 Right, if the same logic that you're using to justify that being gay is wrong could lead a white supremacist to the conclusion that being black is wrong, and lead a dumbass to the conclusion that playing the piano is wrong, maybe your logic isn't that sound.

03:36:09.000 And I think that's gonna be my closing statement.

03:36:11.000 If Nick Fuentes was honest with us here, folks, he would tell us that being gay is wrong because he's just, uh, a little bit prejudiced, don't you think?

03:36:20.000 Okay, that was a bit over.

03:36:21.000 Nick, I'll give you 90 seconds to close here.

03:36:23.000 Alright, yeah.

03:36:23.000 I don't know why we got to do the debate club stuff.

03:36:26.000 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what Nick Fuentes is going to try and... It's like this is a very... We're on Aiden Ross, okay, bitch?

03:36:32.000 This is Aiden Ross live.

03:36:33.000 There's no rules here, okay, other than the time limit.

03:36:36.000 My closing statement is very simple.

03:36:38.000 It's just like how I started.

03:36:40.000 If you believe, and I tend to think that every decent person does, even if you're not Christian or necessarily religious, if you believe that we are more than just matter, meaning that we have souls, meaning that there is something deeper, there's a ghost in the machine that is a true source of identity, if you believe that the universe is created and we're created, then you believe that moral conduct is not just about avoiding harm or hurting people.

03:37:04.000 There's also a way to conduct your moral life independently.

03:37:07.000 And it's how you treat yourself.

03:37:08.000 It's your actions.

03:37:09.000 We all understand there's an idea of discipline, cleanliness, all those kinds of things.

03:37:14.000 And the idea of sodomy, which people should think of when they think of homosexuality, I think according to any decent person in any culture, is something that is violent, filthy, And those things tend to be wrong.

03:37:26.000 It's contrary to the nature of sex, what we know the anus and the penis to be for, you know, or, you know, for lesbians for that matter, it's contrary to the purpose of those things. 1.00

03:37:36.000 And I would say that on top of all that, you have evidence that this is the case because there's such a low incidence of it.

03:37:42.000 It's a very small percentage of the population, has a very high coincidence with mental illness, and there's a very common family pattern that produces Hey, Aiden, I have no more on this subject, Dean.

03:37:54.000 Hold on.

03:37:54.000 What does Dean want to talk about?

03:37:56.000 Okay, it's a very particular kind of behavior that's a response to things.

03:38:00.000 It should be avoided. I think any decent person realizes that.

03:38:03.000 Hey, Aiden.

03:38:04.000 I know more on this subject, Dean.

03:38:07.000 Hold on. What is Dean Wendlandt's? Yes, Dean.

03:38:09.000 Well, I mean, I would like to propose giving Nick another 60 seconds

03:38:16.000 to respond to my closing statement.

03:38:19.000 As I pointed out in my closing statement, he wouldn't respond to the arguments I gave, and he still didn't.

03:38:24.000 So I just wanted to see if Nick wanted more time to do that.

03:38:26.000 If not, we can move on, but he probably won't.

03:38:29.000 Uh, can we give him 60 more seconds to actually respond?

03:38:33.000 Okay, can we do the next topic now?

03:38:34.000 I'm sorry I didn't respond to your stupid syllogism about white supremacy and the holocaust and January 6th or whatever.

03:38:41.000 That's a damning non-answer.

03:38:42.000 Let's go to the next topic.

03:38:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:38:44.000 For real.

03:38:44.000 Okay, we're gonna go to the next one and then Dean, you agreed to do immigration.

03:38:48.000 We'll circle back to Kamala Trump after the last agreed upon subject.

03:38:51.000 Is that cool?

03:38:53.000 Um, yeah, depending on what time it is after we get our four out of the way.

03:38:56.000 I kind of like carved out like an hour, an hour and a half.

03:38:58.000 But if we want to go out to immigration at the end, I might have some time.

03:39:00.000 I just have to see what's going on.

03:39:02.000 The reason why we have to do a fifth topic that we both agree on, guys, is because a lot of the audience is, you know, is enjoying this and they're deep in on this.

03:39:09.000 And I think it's almost you guys are almost kind of tied right now.

03:39:13.000 There are a lot of them are agreeing about a tie.

03:39:16.000 So maybe a fifth.

03:39:18.000 We'll see.

03:39:19.000 Let's get to the fourth topic, though.

03:39:20.000 Well, how about this?

03:39:21.000 Because we've been going about 30 minutes each subject, so for brevity's sake, why don't we do 20 minutes on the last subject and 20 minutes on immigration?

03:39:29.000 What's the last subject?

03:39:31.000 Are men superior to women? 0.97

03:39:34.000 Could we give that one 30?

03:39:36.000 Okay, but if you agree to do immigration.

03:39:40.000 If I agree to do immigration, I'll give that 30. 0.99

03:39:43.000 Uh, I feel like there's people out there that could represent immigration better than I can.

03:39:46.000 Ha! 0.89

03:39:47.000 Cause you're gonna lose on that one.

03:39:48.000 Uh, I don't know, like, what your expertise is.

03:39:51.000 I'm guessing, like, you have a bit of immigration.

03:39:53.000 Like, I don't, I don't, like, host immigration debates.

03:39:55.000 I'm a specialist.

03:39:56.000 I'm always talking about that.

03:39:57.000 I round them up myself.

03:39:58.000 Dean, Dean, Dean, do you have a topic that you would, a fifth topic that you might want to cover, uh, touch base on?

03:40:03.000 Um, just something for the end.

03:40:06.000 It doesn't have to be that long either, like, maybe 15 minutes.

03:40:08.000 Yeah, why don't, no, we could, we could, we could debate immigration, immigration.

03:40:11.000 Let's just do it.

03:40:13.000 Alright, so the next topic is... Nick's sitting over there with a smile on his face.

03:40:19.000 I'm having fun!

03:40:21.000 You're a good debate partner.

03:40:22.000 It's not personal, so I just want you to know.

03:40:25.000 Are men more superior?

03:40:27.000 No, just superior.

03:40:27.000 Are men superior to women?

03:40:28.000 We'll start with Nick, I'll give you three minutes, and then three minutes to Dean.

03:40:31.000 Yeah, men are awesome. 0.88

03:40:32.000 Women suck, and they're dumb, and... No, I'm kidding. 1.00

03:40:37.000 Yeah, the thing is, though, men obviously were made to lead, and I do think that women should have a secondary role in society.

03:40:44.000 I think that's absolutely true.

03:40:46.000 I do believe in a fundamental equality between man and woman.

03:40:49.000 You know, the Bible says that God created the man and woman, so we're both created with dignity and should be respected, and there's an equality before God that we both have.

03:40:58.000 But we were created with two distinct and different natures.

03:41:01.000 You know, they are two essential Maleness and femaleness are essential about a person. 1.00

03:41:08.000 They're essential to the soul.

03:41:09.000 They're essential to the body.

03:41:11.000 They come with a function.

03:41:12.000 They come with a particular anatomy.

03:41:14.000 They come with a brain chemistry.

03:41:15.000 And as such, those things have social roles.

03:41:18.000 The idea that, you know, these clearly two distinct categories, two essential types of people would be treated precisely the same or exactly the same in society, it belies the fact that they have two different natures.

03:41:30.000 And I think it's obvious that men are celestial, they're individualists, they're rationalists, they're leaders, they're risk-takers.

03:41:36.000 They should be working, fighting, running society.

03:41:40.000 Women are terrestrial, they're nurturers, they're caregivers. 1.00

03:41:44.000 They should be the mothers. 1.00

03:41:46.000 I don't think that they should be necessarily precluded from working, but I think that they should be encouraged first and foremost to be mothers for their benefit and for the benefit of society as a whole.

03:41:56.000 And that's kind of the gist of my position.

03:42:00.000 Okay, so I have an opening statement.

03:42:03.000 I guess I'll use it up.

03:42:05.000 My position's pretty clear.

03:42:07.000 No, one human being does not have more intrinsic moral value than another human being.

03:42:12.000 I don't think that we could take this qualification of your gender identity or what's in between your legs and abstract that out to this norm of who's going to be better at leading.

03:42:21.000 I'd say the qualifications of determining who's better at leading The qualifications of determining, you know, half the shit that he named off over here is not going to be, right, what's in between your legs or your gender identity, but rather other various traits.

03:42:33.000 But I guess just to make this quick, we can kind of cut to the chase here.

03:42:37.000 Why do you think men are better at leading than women? 0.90

03:42:39.000 I would appreciate specifics.

03:42:41.000 You kind of pointed out, like, different natures, different biological differences, neuroanatomy, etc.

03:42:46.000 I want you to name the specifics.

03:42:48.000 Maybe I could ask you a question here.

03:42:49.000 What are the specific biological differences between men and women that make men better at leading than women?

03:42:55.000 Smarter, stronger, all of the above.

03:42:59.000 No, I mean, in actuality... Be specific.

03:43:01.000 In actuality.

03:43:02.000 Are those your two?

03:43:03.000 What?

03:43:04.000 Are those your two qualifiers?

03:43:05.000 No, no, I'm being a little bit funny.

03:43:07.000 Well, be honest with me here.

03:43:09.000 The reason why they're better leaders – well, one, I think they're really only qualified to be leaders because they are physically stronger.

03:43:17.000 And this is one of the reasons why we have a feminist society. 1.00

03:43:21.000 It's because we live in a world where we have technology.

03:43:25.000 In the old days, when there was fighting, it was very physical, and it was very direct.

03:43:31.000 It was hand-to-hand combat, and the only people that could do it were men.

03:43:34.000 As such, the militaries that were raised up were comprised of men.

03:43:38.000 The people that fought and enforced sovereignty, law, borders, all those things were men, necessarily, then. 0.96

03:43:46.000 They're the decision makers.

03:43:47.000 And so, you know, the idea that it has something to do with what's between your legs.

03:43:51.000 Well, it has to do with what's between your legs and the fact that you have testosterone, you're physically stronger.

03:43:56.000 And by the way, because you have testosterone, it means you're more aggressive.

03:44:00.000 It means you're a bigger risk taker.

03:44:02.000 Those are two things that are important.

03:44:04.000 For a person to be a leader, they need to be able to stand against the crowd.

03:44:08.000 They need and that means a risk taker and means you need to be disagreeable.

03:44:12.000 It involves a certain amount of aggression and a competitiveness that women simply lack. 1.00

03:44:17.000 We all know that women are very agreeable, passive, not all of them, but generally speaking, they are. 1.00

03:44:23.000 They're peacemakers, they're more introspective, they're more emotional, less decisive, and all of that makes them worse as leaders.

03:44:31.000 Now, there can be women that are good in particular leadership roles in certain circumstances, and individual women might, but as a general rule, Because of their nature, they don't make good leaders. 1.00

03:44:43.000 Thank you so much for your response there.

03:44:46.000 Let's talk about it all.

03:44:48.000 One of the reasons that you gave me that men are better at leading than women is physical strength. 0.96

03:44:52.000 That is a totally and completely mute point.

03:44:55.000 You would not be able to name me one social category in the world today where leadership is determined on purely physical strength.

03:45:03.000 I also bet that you would not be willing to vote for a 15 year old on steroids that can binge press 600 pounds over Donald Trump just because he's physically stronger.

03:45:13.000 Another point that you brought up is that women are more emotional than men.

03:45:17.000 I'd actually say that's false.

03:45:20.000 72% of people who commit suicide are men.

03:45:23.000 85% of people that abuse hard drugs as an emotional reaction to particular external stimuli are men.

03:45:33.000 We see that 95% of violent crimes are committed by men.

03:45:36.000 We see that men are much more likely to start wars, to start genocides.

03:45:40.000 We see that men are much more likely to engage in irrational, risk-adverse activities, such as drunk driving, reckless driving, or gambling.

03:45:48.000 Meanwhile, we see women have a higher IQ and EQ on average. 0.98

03:45:52.000 Women outperform men in the context of school, going to it more, getting better grades and better degrees. 0.88

03:45:57.000 And we see that women can actually deal with stress better than men, and that's one of those biological predispositions that you were talking about.

03:46:04.000 Women have thicker dendrites in their neuroanatomy compared to men for the reason being that evolution has designed women to deal with childbirth, okay? 0.99

03:46:15.000 And that made them deal with stress better as well.

03:46:18.000 That's why we see that female surgeons outcompete male surgeons. 1.00

03:46:24.000 The JMA and the AMA did a massive study on 1.7 million patients on six continents and evaluated that if you're operated on by a male compared to a female, that you're more likely to die as a result of your surgery and you're more likely to experience post-operative outcomes.

03:46:39.000 So, just a quick recap.

03:46:41.000 Physical strength doesn't mean shit.

03:46:43.000 I have bigger biceps than you.

03:46:44.000 I bet you think you're a better leader.

03:46:47.000 Emotional maturity.

03:46:48.000 Women are more emotionally mature than men.

03:46:50.000 Then about intelligence and all the other shit you brought up, we could get into that, but I'll let you respond to the points that I brought up so far.

03:46:56.000 Yeah, so you said it was risk-averse to gamble and drunk drive.

03:47:01.000 It's the opposite.

03:47:03.000 You said men are more willing to drunk drive and gamble.

03:47:05.000 Those are risk-taking activities, and risk-taking is fundamental in leadership.

03:47:10.000 That's why— That's why, yeah, fair enough.

03:47:13.000 And that's why, you know, the richest people in the world are all men.

03:47:16.000 Because the entrepreneurs are men.

03:47:18.000 Because an entrepreneur is a risk taker.

03:47:20.000 And, you know, one man's gambling is another man's entrepreneurship.

03:47:24.000 One man's drunk driving is another man's self-destructive, obsessive, maniacal, quest for building the best company or being the president

03:47:36.000 or anything like that.

03:47:38.000 It's absolutely essential.

03:47:40.000 With regard to higher IQ and EQ, it is true that on average women have a higher IQ, but 0.97

03:47:45.000 it's also true that the distribution is different.

03:47:48.000 There's more geniuses among men.

03:47:50.000 I mean, the curve, if you will, is flatter.

03:47:53.000 So there's more men that are on the left side of the curve.

03:47:56.000 There's more men on the right side of the curve.

03:47:58.000 Although the average for women is higher, they don't have those outliers and those extremes.

03:48:03.000 That's why you don't see a lot of female geniuses. 1.00

03:48:06.000 And that's just true.

03:48:07.000 I mean, earlier today in preparation for the debate, I asked Chad GPT, I said, name some female geniuses.

03:48:12.000 They got to like three before they had to name a feminist. 1.00

03:48:14.000 They did like Marie Curie, some ancient Neoplatonists no one ever heard of.

03:48:19.000 And then it was like all the like first and second wave feminists. 1.00

03:48:23.000 There's no female geniuses. 1.00

03:48:25.000 There's very few female billionaires that didn't get their wealth outside of divorce. 1.00

03:48:29.000 There's very few female heads of state. 1.00

03:48:31.000 People say that's oppression, it's misogyny.

03:48:34.000 And we all know it's because they're not risk takers, they're not tough.

03:48:37.000 With regard to they handle stress better, Yeah, maybe certain kinds of stress, but I think we all know women, and I think we all know that when women are put in stressful situations, they cry.

03:48:50.000 They cry, they get upset, they freak out, they call their boyfriend, they call their father.

03:48:55.000 I let you go on.

03:48:56.000 I let you go on and you said that ridiculous stuff.

03:48:59.000 Hang on, let me finish.

03:48:59.000 Let me finish.

03:49:00.000 I'll wrap up.

03:49:01.000 I'll wrap up, but I let you finish and I let you say that women, women handle stress better. 0.99

03:49:05.000 That's insane.

03:49:06.000 Okay.

03:49:07.000 And with regard to physical strength, you know, look, I said today, physical strength is not a qualifier because of techniques, because we have missiles, we have tanks and things like that.

03:49:17.000 But the point is, it used to be the case that what qualified you to lead is that you would go out there and be doing the fighting and all of that.

03:49:25.000 And that is still true.

03:49:26.000 It's not necessarily true in the United States, but it is still true in other countries.

03:49:30.000 In countries like Israel, for example, or Iran, their presidents and their ministers are frequently military leaders that are actually having to be in the tanks and in the battlefield.

03:49:41.000 And, you know, it's hard to be in the battlefield when you get your period.

03:49:43.000 It's hard to be in the battlefield if you're pregnant or something like that.

03:49:47.000 Men don't get pregnant. 1.00

03:49:48.000 Men don't get their period.

03:49:49.000 Men are physically stronger.

03:49:51.000 Men have more endurance.

03:49:53.000 That's why, by the way, it's not just that they're stronger, they're faster, they're all of the above.

03:49:59.000 That's why women don't compete with men in sports. 1.00

03:50:01.000 That's why men make better soldiers.

03:50:03.000 And so, you know, yeah, it kind of does matter that if there's a war, men are going to be the ones fighting and dying it, and that's why they're leading.

03:50:09.000 And there's something deeply related to their biology there as well.

03:50:12.000 But go ahead, since you want to interrupt me already.

03:50:15.000 Yeah, yeah, let's do something here.

03:50:17.000 I've kind of like felt this way like the entire time that we've been having the discussion.

03:50:20.000 I feel like we both like to talk a lot.

03:50:23.000 I think that that's been evidently clear.

03:50:25.000 We just kind of go at each other with like these two to three minute responses.

03:50:28.000 Can I ask something from you?

03:50:31.000 What is it?

03:50:31.000 Depends on what it is.

03:50:33.000 I kind of want to break down each point you've brought up and demonstrate to you why it's flawed instead of just giving these long-winded responses.

03:50:40.000 You want to do a fact check?

03:50:42.000 And I want to do that point by point with our last five minutes.

03:50:45.000 The first point about physical strength.

03:50:47.000 Who would you rather vote for?

03:50:48.000 A 15-year-old that can binge press a thousand pounds or Donald Trump?

03:50:51.000 But that's not what I'm... I'm not saying that the most physically strong person should be the king.

03:50:56.000 I'm saying that as a category, as a category, women are not soldiers. 0.97

03:51:02.000 They're not tasked with defending the country.

03:51:04.000 And that is effectively what the king or the president is supposed to do, is defend the realm.

03:51:09.000 Didn't Trump dodge the draft five times?

03:51:13.000 Oh my, okay.

03:51:14.000 So are we just going to do the resistance liberal thing now?

03:51:17.000 I said, the United States, technics notwithstanding.

03:51:20.000 Are you capable of understanding like a concept?

03:51:23.000 Can non-soldiers defend the country?

03:51:25.000 President Bone Spurs!

03:51:27.000 We're talking about whether women should be leaders.

03:51:31.000 If they can't physically defend the borders.

03:51:33.000 Okay, so you'd say the weaker you are, physically speaking, the worse you are at leading?

03:51:38.000 No, no.

03:51:39.000 I just said- So then what the fuck is your argument?

03:51:41.000 Yeah, it's like you're not even listening.

03:51:43.000 I said as a category.

03:51:45.000 As a category!

03:51:46.000 Because sex is essential. 0.98

03:51:47.000 A category that's not going to be indicative of leadership ability when the question is, why are men better at leading than women?

03:51:53.000 Why do you name a category where we see these general biological distinctions between men and women if it's not indicative of men being better at leading than women?

03:52:01.000 I asked you to name the specific biological differences between men and women that make men better at leading than women.

03:52:06.000 You said strength was one of them, and now you're saying it's not.

03:52:09.000 You're saying that emotional intelligence was one of them, and you conceded that women are more emotionally intelligent than men.

03:52:15.000 Another point that you brought up was intelligence, specifically IQ, with the highest geniuses of the men being smarter than that of the women. 0.55

03:52:23.000 I'd say there's going to be some social aspects thrown in there.

03:52:27.000 I mean, if you look at the average IQ of an Arab individual compared to a white individual at home here in the US, the white individual has a higher IQ. 0.62

03:52:34.000 But then if you go to an Arab-dominated country in the Middle East, you'll see that the Arab individual has a higher IQ.

03:52:39.000 What this means is that social isolation, access to opportunity and resources can play in, right?

03:52:44.000 To like your deviated IQ.

03:52:46.000 So of course we'd see more men having higher IQs at the end of the spectrum compared to women,

03:52:50.000 just because they have more opportunity, resources and access to education.

03:52:54.000 Oh, it's because of misogyny.

03:52:55.000 It's misogyny, right?

03:52:56.000 Women are dumb because of misogyny. 1.00

03:52:58.000 Well, actually, I'd say that not being in the top 10% of IQs doesn't make you fucking dumb.

03:53:03.000 You asked me a question, let me ask you a question.

03:53:06.000 I want to ask you a question about leadership.

03:53:08.000 What do you think are good leadership traits?

03:53:10.000 Can you give me some examples of what like good leadership traits are?

03:53:13.000 That's a great question.

03:53:14.000 I think I'll give you a great answer.

03:53:15.000 We could talk about a good, morally virtuous character.

03:53:17.000 We could talk about an ability to get along with other people, bring people together, and get them to follow you.

03:53:23.000 Another thing that I'd say, a good leader isn't just someone who can bring people together, but a good leader is also someone that can lead those people into a positive direction.

03:53:30.000 The reason that leadership exists in the first place is because when you take a large group of people and you set them on their own paths, they're not gonna get shit done.

03:53:39.000 Thereby, you choose one of that large group of people to lead them all in what?

03:53:44.000 A positive direction.

03:53:45.000 So you're looking for someone with a good character, you're looking for someone that can bring people together, you're probably going to be looking for someone that's pretty damn competent as well, and someone that can like achieve like the highest level of eudaimonia for the group of people that they're leading.

03:53:56.000 I'm sure there's other attributes that we get assigned to leadership here, but there's going to be a general sense.

03:54:00.000 Bro, pull that in.

03:54:02.000 Look, see, this is where you're wrong.

03:54:07.000 Do you need to respond or could we just do a one minute closing statement here?

03:54:10.000 Can I just respond and then we can do closing statements?

03:54:13.000 Okay, so just to respond to that, I mean, and this is kind of the whole essence of the debate.

03:54:19.000 You fundamentally misunderstand human nature and you know nothing about leadership.

03:54:23.000 You say it's about bringing everyone together to move in a positive direction.

03:54:28.000 It's like, this is a problem with Gen Z. It's like this kind of kindergarten. 1.00

03:54:31.000 You fucking nihilist.

03:54:32.000 Hang on, can I finish please?

03:54:33.000 I didn't interrupt all that nonsense.

03:54:35.000 It's just sort of like, hey everybody, let's all hold hands and let's just create, you know, like everyone's being nice to each other.

03:54:41.000 The world is a mess, okay?

03:54:43.000 The world is a knife fight.

03:54:45.000 On the global scale, when you're talking about leaders and armies, it's a knife fight for existence.

03:54:50.000 We're talking about companies, it's a knife fight for existence.

03:54:54.000 We're not talking about anything.

03:54:56.000 Human competition, it's practically homicidal between people.

03:54:59.000 And anyone that's serious about anything will tell you that.

03:55:02.000 Anyone that's obsessed, anyone that's ambitious, anyone who is ruling, who is actually the leaders in society, who earned their role there, they'll tell you the same thing.

03:55:10.000 It's cutthroat.

03:55:11.000 And yeah, there are some abilities, like you said, like, yeah, you need to inspire people and things like that.

03:55:16.000 But more than that, you need a willingness to do what it takes.

03:55:19.000 You need an ambition.

03:55:20.000 You need to take risks.

03:55:22.000 You need to be willing to make decisions and stand by them.

03:55:25.000 These are all qualities that purely because of gender and hormones, because of their biological role, women don't have those things. 1.00

03:55:32.000 Because women have to have a baby grow inside of them for nine months and then hear it scream and cry and take care of it and feed them from their breast and have like basically a dependent They're just not made for that kind of competition. 1.00

03:55:45.000 They have a completely care-based ethics.

03:55:47.000 They're totally dependent.

03:55:49.000 Men who are individuals, risk-takers, aggressive, men who can exist independently of women, when it's really not so the other way around, they alone have the ability to do what it takes to lead.

03:56:00.000 And that's why Even with all the DEI in the world, you're still going to have men running everything.

03:56:05.000 The private sector, the public sector, the military, because men are the ones that can lead. 0.83

03:56:10.000 And thus, they do.

03:56:11.000 It's only through ideologically motivated policies from human resources departments that you get women doing fucking anything other than like creating schedules and being nurses and being fucking teachers and stuff like that. 1.00

03:56:23.000 That's just reality.

03:56:24.000 Everyone knows it.

03:56:25.000 And you could give me a hundred studies.

03:56:27.000 That's human nature.

03:56:28.000 I don't have sex with them.

03:56:29.000 I'm gonna go to closing statements.

03:56:30.000 Yeah, yeah, it's funny how you're saying that you can't get women to do anything.

03:56:34.000 If a woman didn't do something, you wouldn't be sitting here having this debate with me 1.00

03:56:37.000 right now.

03:56:38.000 But I just wanted to respond to that.

03:56:40.000 You're saying men are so much better at leading than women, and I hate women because I haven't 1.00

03:56:45.000 touched one since conception.

03:56:47.000 Sorry, that's not what you said.

03:56:48.000 You actually said, you know, because they're not aggressive.

03:56:51.000 I touch them, I just don't have sex with them.

03:56:53.000 They're not my wife. 1.00

03:56:54.000 Uh, I don't know about that.

03:56:57.000 You're a rapist! 0.91

03:56:58.000 Orange man bad. 0.78

03:57:00.000 I'm not gonna call you a racist without evidence.

03:57:03.000 Orange you clad.

03:57:04.000 So anyway, what I was gonna ask, well, if like ambition, risk-taking, and aggressiveness

03:57:12.000 is what makes you a good leader, Hitler was an incredibly ambitious, aggressive risk-taker. 0.61

03:57:20.000 Given your qualifications, would you thereby say that Hitler is a good leader? 0.84

03:57:26.000 It's indisputable he is.

03:57:29.000 Indisputably.

03:57:30.000 You could even say he's evil.

03:57:33.000 He made Germany great again, even if you believe he's evil.

03:57:35.000 I have a question.

03:57:36.000 Who would you rather have run our country right now, your wife or Hitler? 1.00

03:57:44.000 Of course!

03:57:46.000 Of course!

03:57:47.000 I don't have a wife, but if I did, she would not be fit to run the country. 0.99

03:57:51.000 I can tell you that much.

03:57:52.000 She can run the kitchen. 0.93

03:57:53.000 She can run... She can't run the lawnmower. 1.00

03:57:56.000 I'll put it that way.

03:57:58.000 And I think anyone would... One's in the chat if you'd rather Hitler over your wife. 0.74

03:58:02.000 Two's if you prefer your wife. 1.00

03:58:04.000 We'll let the chat... We'll let the fucking numbers do the talking over here. 0.98

03:58:07.000 I don't think I'm alone in that.

03:58:09.000 Okay, let's do a one-minute closing. 0.82

03:58:10.000 Let's do one-minute Nick and then one-minute Dean.

03:58:14.000 Go ahead.

03:58:17.000 Yeah, so my closing statement...

03:58:19.000 Is that, you know, look, it's human nature.

03:58:23.000 I am not an empiricist.

03:58:25.000 I don't think we need to consult the studies.

03:58:27.000 I think we know our nature.

03:58:29.000 I think God created a man and a woman.

03:58:31.000 We're created with two different reproductive faculties. 0.98

03:58:34.000 We're created with, as a result, different anatomies, different natures, different dispositions.

03:58:39.000 We're made with complementarity.

03:58:41.000 Men and women are not only made differently, they're made to complement each other, which doesn't mean that they're necessarily opposites, but it does mean that there's like reciprocal differences As a result of these essential immutable differences,

03:58:54.000 we should treat men and women differently, and we do. 1.00

03:58:57.000 That's why we have things like chivalry.

03:58:59.000 That's why men don't hit women. 1.00

03:59:01.000 That's why men and women don't compete in the same sports. 0.93

03:59:04.000 And, you know, a lot of people understand that, but then they don't understand why we would say

03:59:08.000 we don't want a woman president, or why we wouldn't want to send women into combat, 1.00

03:59:12.000 or why we think that men aren't badass bikers and whatever in the same way that men are.

03:59:17.000 But it all proceeds from the same essential, complementary natures that the two sexes were given by God.

03:59:24.000 To pretend otherwise is to ignore our eyes, our experience, and what we know about ourselves and the people in our lives.

03:59:33.000 Dean Gahl, one minute.

03:59:35.000 Yeah, first of all, you said that's why men don't hit women.

03:59:39.000 Men do hit women. 1.00

03:59:40.000 It sucks.

03:59:41.000 Second of all, let's talk about why men are not better at leading than women.

03:59:46.000 Every single point that Nick Fuentes has gave has been reduced to him telling us all that Hitler is a better candidate for America's president today compared to Kamala Harris or his very own wife.

03:59:58.000 I don't give a shit about the 12 or 13 year old little boys spamming 1 and 8 in chat.

04:00:03.000 Anyone with half of a fucking brain cell can tell that this logic is not immutable and it leads you to being a fucking in-cell RNC droid repeating the same alternative media talking points that you got from Andrew fucking Tate.

04:00:17.000 Okay?

04:00:18.000 Right?

04:00:18.000 The facts of the matter are, this guy said men are better at leading than women because they're physically stronger, physical strength is not indicative of being better at leading, Go talk to the biggest guy in your gym and see who'd be better at leading.

04:00:31.000 This guy also brought up levels of emotion.

04:00:33.000 Men are more emotional than women. 0.99

04:00:34.000 We all know this.

04:00:35.000 That's why they commit vast majority of violent crimes.

04:00:38.000 That's why they commit vast majority of suicides.

04:00:40.000 That's why they abuse hard drugs more.

04:00:42.000 That's why they commit thieving, kidnapping, etc.

04:00:44.000 more.

04:00:45.000 Another point that he brought up was intelligence.

04:00:47.000 Women have a higher IQ on average. 1.00

04:00:49.000 Let's face the facts, folks.

04:00:51.000 There's no evidence to believe Okay, let's go back to Trump-Kamala in the beginning.

04:00:55.000 And I suggest you treat the women in your life damn well and don't tell them to stay in the kitchen or you're not

04:01:01.000 gonna get a wife Just like 28 year old Nick Fuentes over here hasn't been

04:01:06.000 able to get a girlfriend since he was born. That's why folks

04:01:09.000 That's why you're an incel, but we're gonna go ahead and move on now. Okay, let's go back to Trump-Campbell in the

04:01:15.000 beginning I will say who's stronger on immigration Trump or Campbell?

04:01:19.000 Oh, this one is this one's so incredibly easy Yeah, sure.

04:01:23.000 Kamala Harris is stronger on immigration.

04:01:24.000 Well, this one's just evidently clear.

04:01:26.000 Donald Trump is pro-open borders.

04:01:27.000 intro.

04:01:42.000 Because he torpedoed a bipartisan border bill in the House and the Senate two years ago, drafted by a Trump-endorsed Republican by the name of Lankford.

04:01:52.000 Okay?

04:01:53.000 Trump is pro-open borders right now because he knows it's going to increase his chance of winning re-election.

04:01:58.000 Another thought here, if I was a conservative and I cared about immigration, Donald Trump wouldn't be my guy.

04:02:04.000 He essentially passed no policy that effectively mitigated increasing numbers of border crossings and entries into our country under his term.

04:02:14.000 The wall?

04:02:14.000 Didn't do shit.

04:02:15.000 The Romanian-Mexico policy?

04:02:18.000 Didn't do shit.

04:02:19.000 If you look at the graph behind Donald Trump at the rally that he got shot at, he claimed that his clampdown on the southern border started with Title 42 and COVID.

04:02:27.000 The big public health emergency that Nick Fuentes over here probably thinks was a common cold is the only reason that we had as low of border entries under Trump's administration as we did.

04:02:40.000 Kamala Harris on the other hand, right, she wants to send more funding to the courts on the borders to expedite the asylum-seeking processes to reduce undocumented migration in our country. 1.00

04:02:49.000 She's the only candidate in the race to prosecute transatlantic gangs.

04:02:55.000 But the moral of the story, the one point that I want to stick for Nick Fuentes over here to respond to, is that Donald Trump is pro-open border because he torpedoed good border policy in the House and the Senate two years ago because he wanted the crisis to continue and make the Democrats look bad.

04:03:13.000 Nick, you got two minutes.

04:03:15.000 All right.

04:03:16.000 Yeah, that's just like...

04:03:18.000 Obviously out of touch with reality.

04:03:20.000 I knew he would go there.

04:03:21.000 And that's why I want to talk about immigration.

04:03:23.000 I mean, you could make that case if history started in the year 2024, that Trump torpedoed the border bill and that's why the border is bad.

04:03:35.000 But of course, time didn't start in 2024.

04:03:38.000 It started with immigration a long time ago.

04:03:41.000 Trump had a number of executive orders that curbed illegal border crossings.

04:03:46.000 It wasn't just the migrant protection protocols.

04:03:49.000 It was a number of others.

04:03:50.000 Meant to close loopholes with catch and release.

04:03:52.000 And so they could return immigrants to third party countries. 0.71

04:03:56.000 It wasn't just Title 42.

04:03:58.000 And the Biden administration undid all of them, literally on the first day.

04:04:02.000 Trump built a border wall.

04:04:04.000 You say it did nothing.

04:04:05.000 Department of Homeland Security says actually it reduced crossings, reduced drug trafficking over the border, reduced human smuggling over the border.

04:04:12.000 That's all true.

04:04:13.000 He built 386 miles of physical infrastructure.

04:04:17.000 And he did it, by the way, after Congress refused to give him the money.

04:04:21.000 After the Supreme Court, rather a federal judge, tried to hold it up in the court system.

04:04:26.000 Finally, by the end of his term, he was able to get the money from the DOD to build a border wall.

04:04:32.000 Biden stopped building it on day one.

04:04:34.000 Biden also effectively ended deportations.

04:04:37.000 There was a policy under Obama where they said they weren't going to prioritize most illegal immigration for deportations.

04:04:44.000 Under Trump, they put an executive order that said, we're going to prioritize all illegal immigrants for deportation.

04:04:50.000 Biden rescinded that executive order.

04:04:52.000 Trump had an executive order that said, while you're waiting for your asylum claim to be adjudicated, you wait in Mexico, not in the interior of the United States.

04:05:00.000 Biden rescinded that executive order.

04:05:02.000 Trump said, We will return you to one of the Northern Triangle countries, a third-party country.

04:05:08.000 Biden rescinded that executive order.

04:05:11.000 As a result, illegal immigration under Biden is higher than at any point in history by far.

04:05:17.000 In the 10 years between 2010 and 2020, illegal border crossings, only one year on average, on a day-to-day basis, were over 3,000 per day.

04:05:27.000 Under the Biden administration, It was 4,000, 6,000, and now it's over 7,000 border crossings.

04:05:33.000 So it's almost three times the 10-year average, and that's because they removed the Trump era policies.

04:05:39.000 Now they want to blame it on a Senate bill this year?

04:05:41.000 I don't think so.

04:05:43.000 Thank you for all the information, Nick.

04:05:46.000 I'm gonna have fun with this.

04:05:47.000 First of all, it's funny that you think you're so educated about the border and then you say that Lankford's bill was in the Senate in 2024.

04:05:54.000 No, that was 2023.

04:05:55.000 It started drafting in late 2021.

04:05:58.000 Secondly, you mentioned all the policies that Trump enacted that Biden repealed.

04:06:04.000 First of all, if you look at the border crossings under Donald Trump's presidency, they went up year by year by year until Title 42 was implemented.

04:06:15.000 What does that tell us?

04:06:16.000 Immigration, after these great policies, didn't go down. 0.96

04:06:20.000 What else do we know is that these policies weren't in place under Obama's administration.

04:06:26.000 Did we have a border crisis to the same degree that we have now under Obama's administration?

04:06:31.000 No, at points we had lower crossings than we had under Trump.

04:06:35.000 Phenomenal!

04:06:36.000 What does this tell us?

04:06:37.000 Is that Biden repealing those policies didn't cause the crisis to start.

04:06:42.000 So what did?

04:06:43.000 That's a great question.

04:06:45.000 Well, let's treat Title 42, the total and complete shutdown caused by or implemented because of the public health emergency, like a dam on a river.

04:06:54.000 Okay?

04:06:54.000 And that dam sat on the river for a year and a half, two years, however long it was.

04:06:59.000 When you remove the dam from the river, what happens?

04:07:02.000 Water gushes through.

04:07:04.000 When Title 42 expired, guess what?

04:07:07.000 All of those migrants that had been backlogged gushed through. 0.99

04:07:10.000 This was natural, normal, and expected.

04:07:13.000 We should evaluate the responsibility and the efficacy of our current administration based upon their response to this crisis being caused by the revocal of Title 42.

04:07:22.000 And what was their response?

04:07:24.000 To implement bipartisan border legislation.

04:07:27.000 And the first step they took was to influence exactly that through the House and the Senate.

04:07:31.000 That was Lankford's bill.

04:07:33.000 What happened next?

04:07:34.000 Trump calls the Republicans in the House and Senate, tells them to vote against it, torpedoes the bill.

04:07:38.000 Nick over here knows the story.

04:07:39.000 But I would like to ask you a very crystal clear question, Nick.

04:07:43.000 Well, it's an incorrect hypothetical because the bill would actually concretize the Biden-era policies.

04:07:48.000 truck shows up to put out the fire and you tell the fire truck to turn around because

04:07:52.000 you want the house to burn so you can claim the insurance money.

04:07:56.000 Nick Fuentes, did you care about the house?

04:08:00.000 Well, it's an incorrect hypothetical because the bill would actually concretize the Biden

04:08:07.000 era policies.

04:08:08.000 The bill does not secure the border.

04:08:10.000 So the premise fails on that alone.

04:08:14.000 And the way that I'd respond to.

04:08:15.000 Can you tell me the provisions that are in the bill, please?

04:08:17.000 Do you know the details of the bill?

04:08:18.000 Can you tell me the provisions that are in the bill, please?

04:08:21.000 I could tell you a handful.

04:08:23.000 Like what was it?

04:08:24.000 Like an additional $500 million towards the courts on the border to expedite asylum-seeking

04:08:28.000 claims.

04:08:29.000 Then we also had like some rolling average daily caps and weekly caps in which the president

04:08:34.000 could then step in and close the border down.

04:08:35.000 Do you know what they are?

04:08:36.000 I think it was like $5,000 a day for like the weekly cap.

04:08:40.000 But here's my response to that.

04:08:41.000 You said that the average over the administration was like $7,000 or $9,000 a day, whatever you said it was.

04:08:47.000 If you were starving and I offered you a hamburger, would you take it or would you say, no, I want a bacon-wrapped filet?

04:08:54.000 Let me respond to that now, because you went on your whole thing about, you know, you corrected me on some of these things.

04:08:59.000 bipartisan border legislation that the alt-right like Nick Fuentes isn't happy

04:09:03.000 about, any rational sane person would take the bill to decrease the impact of

04:09:07.000 the crisis.

04:09:08.000 Alright, now let me respond to that now, because you went on your whole thing

04:09:12.000 about, you know, you corrected me on some of these things.

04:09:14.000 But you never answered my question.

04:09:16.000 Well, because the premise of the question is wrong.

04:09:18.000 But I'll answer it now.

04:09:20.000 You want me to answer these like false hypotheticals and syllogisms, but that's not really how a debate works, actually.

04:09:27.000 If passing this bill is like putting out a fire, would you pass the bill?

04:09:32.000 Okay.

04:09:33.000 So first of all, you said the bill was from 2023.

04:09:37.000 The bill failed in 2024, and that's because it resulted from the impasse over appropriations in September 2023.

04:09:45.000 There was an impasse in Congress over 12 military appropriations bills.

04:09:50.000 The deadline was October 1st.

04:09:52.000 It's why Kevin McCarthy was removed, because the Freedom Caucus, specifically the MAGA caucus within it, insisted on what they were calling I forget the name of it, but a certain border provision in the spending bill, McCarthy wouldn't go for it, and they kept passing continuing resolutions until a bipartisan agreement was put together in the Senate.

04:10:13.000 But at that point, and that was in February, Mitch McConnell said, my first priority is Ukraine, because that was the other sticking point in negotiations.

04:10:22.000 So the Republicans, because they wanted Ukraine aid to pass, which was another subject of the impasse, they said fine, fine, here's your

04:10:29.000 border concessions and I'll tell you the provisions because you don't know. It

04:10:33.000 said that it would only mandate enforcement of the border when daily apprehensions

04:10:38.000 hit more than 8,000 per day. Again, the average of the past 20 years is 2 to 3,000

04:10:45.000 per day. It would say you only have to enforce. That's what the bill says.

04:10:50.000 The bill says $8,000 per day.

04:10:52.000 It says that the administration can get emergency authority at $5,000 per day, on average, over a seven-day period.

04:11:02.000 Another lie.

04:11:03.000 Another lie.

04:11:05.000 Not a lie.

04:11:06.000 It mandates enforcement at $8,000.

04:11:08.000 It's $5,000 for one day.

04:11:10.000 Excuse me, I'll let you finish your nonsense when you said it was in $23,000 when it wasn't.

04:11:15.000 So you're wrong about that.

04:11:17.000 It mandates it at $8,000 per day.

04:11:19.000 What's more, again, the daily averages for 20 years, 10, 20 years, Was 2 to 3,000 under the Biden administration, it goes up past 7,000.

04:11:29.000 They want to say, well, 5,000, you get emergency powers.

04:11:33.000 8,000, you have to use emergency powers.

04:11:36.000 That's far too many.

04:11:38.000 There's been this whole argument about a backlog because of Title 42.

04:11:41.000 10 million illegal immigrants have come in under Biden.

04:11:45.000 Title 42 is implemented.

04:11:47.000 When did the lockdown happen?

04:11:48.000 March 2020?

04:11:49.000 You think 10 million illegals were trying to get in in the nine-month period between March and December of 2020?

04:11:56.000 Biden undid all the policies in January 2021.

04:11:59.000 So that's just like an ad hoc.

04:12:01.000 You're just fishing around for an answer.

04:12:03.000 With regard to the Trump administration, you can see very clearly cause and effect on immigration.

04:12:09.000 When Trump was elected, illegal immigration went down because foreigners anticipated that there would be enforcement.

04:12:15.000 So, and you can see throughout the history of the country, when they threaten enforcement, illegals don't come.

04:12:21.000 When they think they'll get amnesty or they think they'll get in, more of them arrive.

04:12:24.000 So they thought Trump was going to be a hardliner on immigration.

04:12:27.000 They didn't come.

04:12:28.000 Then in September and October 2017, Trump floated a DACA amnesty.

04:12:33.000 He said, we're going to give amnesty to all the deferred action on childhood arrivals.

04:12:36.000 The reason that matters is because children being brought over the border is one of the three big loopholes for how illegals are caught.

04:12:44.000 And released into the country.

04:12:45.000 They bring children that aren't there and all kinds of other things.

04:12:49.000 So Trump said, we'll give an amnesty.

04:12:51.000 Then all of a sudden they started getting caravans from the Northern Triangle in the spring of 2018 because he said amnesty.

04:12:57.000 They heard it.

04:12:58.000 They started to come.

04:12:59.000 Trump maintained a zero tolerance policy promulgated then by Jeff Sessions.

04:13:04.000 And they said, we're going to separate the children.

04:13:07.000 We're going to treat them as unaccompanied minors. 0.98

04:13:09.000 There was a huge media outcry before the election.

04:13:12.000 They had to reverse it.

04:13:14.000 And then after they reversed it, it exploded.

04:13:17.000 And May and June 2019, they hit a peak.

04:13:19.000 Trump implemented the migrant protection protocols by threatening sanctions or rather tariffs against Mexico.

04:13:25.000 And then it came down again.

04:13:27.000 And that is the story of illegal immigration in Trump and the Biden years.

04:13:31.000 It has everything to do.

04:13:33.000 very different. Hang on, it has everything to do with the Biden policies. They let in

04:13:37.000 10 million people and then they float out this half-assed bill that doesn't fix it. Hang on, hang on. Let me finish.

04:13:52.000 They put out this half-assed bill in the last year because everyone agrees the border's a crisis. They concretize it

04:13:53.000 and basically make legal, make Make, in codifying federal law, Biden's policy to let 5,000 people a day on average here.

04:14:00.000 And then when Republicans voted against it, they said, oh, Republicans are against border security.

04:14:04.000 It's a political thing.

04:14:05.000 Even Democrats acknowledge that.

04:14:07.000 It's totally fake.

04:14:08.000 You know, you could keep going with it, but everyone knows it's fake.

04:14:12.000 Okay, well apparently Trump doesn't.

04:14:14.000 He said at a rally in Nevada to blame it on him if the border bill fails.

04:14:19.000 So I think that Trump's big mouth actually does him a lot of harm because I just used Trump's own word of mouth to debunk Nick Fuentes supporting Trump.

04:14:29.000 So yeah, see that's the face of a losing man.

04:14:32.000 Uh, and you said that you were perfectly painted.

04:14:35.000 Okay, well I don't, I don't appreciate your use of the slurs, but I guess that's what emotionally immature men, when someone's smarter than them, lays down the truth.

04:14:43.000 Isn't that right, sir?

04:14:44.000 Yes, yes.

04:14:46.000 We make jokes.

04:14:47.000 Men are funny.

04:14:48.000 Men are funny.

04:14:48.000 Women are not funny.

04:14:49.000 That's another advantage, but that's the other debate.

04:14:52.000 Are you a woman?

04:14:53.000 You could call it emotionally immature.

04:14:55.000 Oh my gosh, he said the R-word.

04:14:58.000 That's what happens when an emotionally immature male... Go ahead, I'm sorry.

04:15:02.000 Go ahead.

04:15:03.000 Go ahead on immigration.

04:15:05.000 According to your logic.

04:15:06.000 But I would like to specifically clarify that your comment about men being more funny than women was just another unfunny false fucking comment by an immature man.

04:15:15.000 It's a fact!

04:15:16.000 I didn't find it that fucking funny when you were telling us that the Holocaust was fake and that 6 million Jewish people didn't die.

04:15:24.000 I didn't find it that fucking funny when you sat here and you told me that Trump didn't torpedo the border bill even though he said he did at a rally in Nevada.

04:15:34.000 If men were so much more funny than women, then why are you the most unfunny fucking specimen that I've ever had the displeasure of sitting across the damn phone with? 1.00

04:15:43.000 Why are you mad?

04:15:44.000 Dude, we're just having a debate.

04:15:46.000 Wait, who's funnier, Trump or Kamala?

04:15:50.000 Uh, who's funnier?

04:15:51.000 Be honest.

04:15:52.000 Trump is funnier than Kamala Harris.

04:15:54.000 Case in point, I win the debate.

04:15:57.000 Men funnier than women. 1.00

04:15:58.000 Okay, but you understand the reason I'd say that Trump is funnier than Kamala Harris?

04:16:04.000 Yeah, because he's a guy.

04:16:05.000 No, no, because he has the IQ of your fucking family pet, and he sits on Twitter all day, and he rants about how much he hates Taylor Swift just because he endorsed Kamala Harris.

04:16:16.000 That was funny!

04:16:17.000 She endorsed Kamala Harris.

04:16:18.000 It's not a funny and a haha, it's a funny and a look at this guy fucking burn.

04:16:23.000 Dude, why, it's always like this diminutive, it's funny because it's sad, because you're a sad little, it was, dude, he's, the president tweeted in all caps, I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT.

04:16:33.000 You don't think that's funny?

04:16:34.000 You don't think that's not hilarious?

04:16:36.000 Wait, wait, the president, do you think that Trump won 2020?

04:16:39.000 The form, I said the former president.

04:16:41.000 But do you think Trump won 2020?

04:16:43.000 100%, he did, that's a fact.

04:16:45.000 Can you name one court case that would find- No, because they threw all the courts, they threw all the cases out because they lacked standing.

04:16:51.000 Okay, so is it okay to believe in things without evidence?

04:16:54.000 There is evidence.

04:16:55.000 But you asked about court cases.

04:16:56.000 But the court cases weren't lost.

04:16:58.000 They were thrown out because they didn't have standing.

04:17:00.000 There's a difference.

04:17:01.000 So there's not any evidence.

04:17:04.000 No, there is evidence.

04:17:05.000 So what's the evidence of the widespread voter fraud in 2020?

04:17:07.000 The evidence is this.

04:17:09.000 Do you know how many people voted early in the 2016 election?

04:17:13.000 Do you know what percentage?

04:17:14.000 Significantly less than in the 2020 election.

04:17:16.000 Correct.

04:17:17.000 Half.

04:17:17.000 35%.

04:17:18.000 And in 2020, it was 70%.

04:17:21.000 Okay, so that's your evidence that Trump had the election stolen from him?

04:17:24.000 Let me, let me, whoa, why so hasty?

04:17:27.000 Let's, let's just talk about it.

04:17:29.000 I'm sorry, I'm having fun.

04:17:30.000 The amount of, yeah, I can tell.

04:17:33.000 The amount of early voting doubled because they changed the rules.

04:17:37.000 In all the states, they change the rules.

04:17:39.000 In Pennsylvania, North Carolina, they illegally change the rules with state election boards, with the state Supreme Court.

04:17:46.000 In Wisconsin, they changed indefinitely confined status to mean anybody because of the pandemic.

04:17:51.000 They solicited ballots.

04:17:53.000 I literally got a ballot in Illinois for my uncle who has been dead for 20 years because they were soliciting ballots.

04:18:00.000 And I would just say, if you think, and let me ask you this, If democracy is so sacred, which you believe, you know, Kamala is going to protect and preserve our democracy, we're not going back.

04:18:09.000 Only because Trump tried to overthrow it with a fake election.

04:18:12.000 But if democracy is so precious, then a ballot is a precious thing, because a ballot is the currency of the election.

04:18:19.000 Do you think that it's good practice to ship out ballots to every voter and then tell them to dump them off in a drop box in a park, unsupervised, for a month at any time during the day?

04:18:30.000 You think that's a good way to run an election?

04:18:33.000 Yeah, okay.

04:18:33.000 I mean, then Trump shouldn't have voted, right?

04:18:35.000 Well, is it?

04:18:35.000 I'm asking you, is it?

04:18:36.000 That's what happened.

04:18:37.000 Yeah, I think that mail-in ballots can be made secure.

04:18:40.000 I understand, like, your immediate, like, response to them, saying that, oh, if I use these words in this particular way, this doesn't seem like a real... Well, just answer.

04:18:46.000 I mean, do you think that's a good way to run an election?

04:18:48.000 Obviously not.

04:18:49.000 It is.

04:18:49.000 It's obvious.

04:18:50.000 It is, and the empirics would agree with me.

04:18:52.000 There's no sufficient evidence of widespread voter fraud.

04:18:55.000 All the audits that were done on the outcome of the 2020 election indicated that it was the safe election recorded in U.S.

04:18:59.000 history.

04:19:00.000 Where do they conduct audits?

04:19:02.000 One moment.

04:19:02.000 Donald Trump went to 63 hand-picked courts with 34 of those judges being Republican appointed, 17 of those judges being appointed by himself.

04:19:11.000 All 63 of those courts ruled that there was no sufficient evidence and threw it out on the basis of no standing.

04:19:16.000 And then Donald Trump even tried to form his own election integrity committee and bumped millions of dollars into them to find absolutely anything.

04:19:25.000 They came up with a 2000 Mules movie, which the producers admitted in fucking court that they were lying.

04:19:31.000 And when he found out that he had no evidence, what did he do?

04:19:34.000 He went to the DOJ with Bill Barr and tried to pressure him in to falsely announcing widespread voter fraud when there wasn't any.

04:19:42.000 And if you know anything about your history, Bill Barr had to resign from the DOJ because half of the DOJ threatened to quit if he didn't.

04:19:51.000 Donald Trump not only tried to rig the outcome of the 2020 election with the fake electorate plot, sending seven different states to cast fake votes into Congress to either be certified as real by Mike Pence or to be accepted by the House if Mike Pence were to claim ignorance, Uh, but he also lied about the outcome.

04:20:14.000 Uh, your conspiracy theory that Donald Trump won is, uh, has no evidence for it.

04:20:18.000 And the only thing you could come up with was Pennsylvania changing their voting rules because of COVID, which by the way, was ruled as legal by the Supreme Court.

04:20:26.000 You're just like not even listening.

04:20:27.000 It was Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and basically every state, and they all did it illegally.

04:20:32.000 Basically, every state changed rules of the election.

04:20:35.000 And I would say, you're telling me, oh, putting 70% of the voters voting early by putting them in mailboxes a month out from the election in an unsupervised dropbox, you're saying, that is a good idea.

04:20:47.000 You're just putting words in a particular order.

04:20:49.000 Look, they don't do it like that in France.

04:20:51.000 Because, you know, we didn't do it here in America.

04:20:54.000 Absentee voting was so rare up until like 20 years ago, up until 4 years ago, because it's so prone to fraud, obviously.

04:21:01.000 When you vote in person, you gotta present your ID, you receive your ballot, they watch you, you go into a room with curtains on it because there's privacy involved too.

04:21:15.000 You fill it out and you submit it.

04:21:17.000 It's called a chain of custody.

04:21:19.000 A supervisor watches the voter get their ballot, fill it out, and return it.

04:21:24.000 It doesn't happen when you're doing so-called in-person absentee voting and that's how 70% of people voted.

04:21:29.000 That's a big problem.

04:21:31.000 It's a big problem they changed the rules without doing it in the constitutional way.

04:21:35.000 It's a big problem that those cases weren't even considered in the Supreme Court.

04:21:39.000 It's also a big problem, by the way, They didn't do an independent ballot audit in almost any of the states.

04:21:44.000 They did one in Arizona.

04:21:45.000 It was flawed.

04:21:46.000 They still found... Where do they conduct an independent ballot audit?

04:21:49.000 Where do they conduct an independent... It wasn't independent.

04:21:52.000 They did a recount.

04:21:52.000 Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, New Jersey, and Oklahoma.

04:21:58.000 And in fact, I knew that you would say that this is wrong.

04:22:01.000 Google it.

04:22:02.000 They're not independent.

04:22:02.000 That's the problem.

04:22:03.000 new that you would say this is wrong. Search up US State's Election Assistant Commission,

04:22:08.000 election audits across the United States. It will give you an entire PDF. They're not

04:22:12.000 independent. That's the problem. I would include the types of audits, the timing, the policies,

04:22:16.000 the case studies and the state specific information indicating that yes, these were independent.

04:22:20.000 It's like you're just not even listening. You're free to look through them. I didn't

04:22:22.000 say they didn't do audits or recounts. No.

04:22:25.000 In no state other than Arizona did they conduct an independent audit of the ballots.

04:22:29.000 Of course, if the same people that oversaw the fraud and were covering up the windows in the stadium in Detroit, of course the state is going to cover its own ass.

04:22:39.000 That's why it needs to be independent.

04:22:40.000 And they didn't do it in any state, even though that's what we were asking for.

04:22:43.000 And by the way, about fake electors, they're not fake.

04:22:47.000 What do you mean by independent?

04:22:48.000 Independent meaning not conducted by the state.

04:22:52.000 Oh, okay.

04:22:53.000 Independent of the state.

04:22:54.000 So I just want to clarify.

04:22:56.000 So you think that Donald Trump shouldn't have went to like the 17 judges that he appointed because those weren't independent judges?

04:23:01.000 So now you're just gish galloping onto something else. 1.00

04:23:03.000 You said, oh, I was ready for you to say that.

04:23:05.000 I have all this evidence.

04:23:06.000 Oh, I didn't listen.

04:23:07.000 And you said independent.

04:23:08.000 Anyway, how about judges or something?

04:23:11.000 Anyway, no responding.

04:23:12.000 Hello, hello, we've been going back and forth about January 6.

04:23:17.000 This this topic is about immigration.

04:23:19.000 Let's go to closing statements here.

04:23:21.000 We'll do one minute from Dean and then one minute from Nick.

04:23:23.000 So closing statements, you could bring up January 6, but let's keep it to

04:23:26.000 immigration if you can.

04:23:27.000 Actually, I'll give you 90 seconds to reel it back.

04:23:29.000 I love 90 seconds each about about this specific ballot audits.

04:23:32.000 I didn't know what you meant when you're referencing independent audits.

04:23:36.000 I understand that you are now referencing audits independent of the state.

04:23:39.000 I asked you to define your term, and I understand that.

04:23:42.000 Yeah, they're only done in Arizona, you're right.

04:23:45.000 Let's give him 90 seconds to un-interrupt it.

04:23:47.000 I'll restart your time, Dean.

04:23:50.000 Uh, no, I just don't think that, uh, like an audit done by a state can automatically be discounted because you exist in a echo chamber of conspiratorial hearsay and you start off with a basis.

04:24:03.000 Trump can never lose.

04:24:04.000 You move to the basis.

04:24:06.000 When Trump loses, no, he didn't.

04:24:08.000 And then tangent of that, you say all of these audits done by independent states are thereby null and void, and I shouldn't listen to them, nor the 63 courts.

04:24:18.000 It's just conspiracy theory.

04:24:20.000 That's what you are.

04:24:21.000 Your mind's been rotted.

04:24:22.000 Everyone agrees with me.

04:24:23.000 No one agrees with you apart from Donald Trump.

04:24:25.000 Not even his old VP, Mike Pence, or 44 of the 46 former cabinet members.

04:24:30.000 And that needs to be pointed out.

04:24:32.000 Now, closing statements about immigration specifically, was that what you asked for, Sniko?

04:24:37.000 Yeah.

04:24:38.000 I thought it was 90 seconds each on J6 and then closed.

04:24:41.000 Yeah, I'm down for that.

04:24:42.000 I'm down for that.

04:24:43.000 I kind of like this.

04:24:44.000 Fair, that's fine.

04:24:45.000 Okay, let me do mine now on J6.

04:24:47.000 So, you know, here's the thing about the Trump election.

04:24:51.000 They doubled the number of early voting.

04:24:53.000 There's obvious flaws with chain of custody.

04:24:56.000 Like, it just doesn't even pass a smell test.

04:24:58.000 On that basis alone, you just can't take the authenticity of the election.

04:25:02.000 And people say it's about, you believe Trump can never lose.

04:25:05.000 I don't think that at all.

04:25:06.000 I think Trump may lose in 2024.

04:25:08.000 But you have to recognize that 2020 was an anomalous election.

04:25:13.000 So when there is an anomaly, when every state changes how they conduct their ballot, when there's an unprecedented, the former peak of early voting was 35%.

04:25:21.000 It was 70% in 2020.

04:25:24.000 It was different.

04:25:25.000 When something is different, you have to investigate it.

04:25:27.000 That's the basis of an inquiry.

04:25:29.000 Problem is, nobody wanted to investigate it.

04:25:32.000 As quickly as the election happened, they wanted to shut it down.

04:25:35.000 They censored people for talking about it.

04:25:37.000 They didn't conduct independent ballot audits.

04:25:39.000 And there was even a Time magazine piece that came out in January 2021 And it said, this is the conspiracy to shut down the

04:25:47.000 election deniers.

04:25:48.000 And there was like a full spectrum attack from the Democrats in the left on protesters,

04:25:54.000 on people that were investigating this to prevent them from trying to decertify, trying

04:25:59.000 to send on over other slates of electors.

04:26:02.000 And I would point out, it is the state legislature's constitutional authority to send electors.

04:26:08.000 If they throw out the election because they don't want to certify it and appoint a different slate of electors, that's their constitutional right to do so.

04:26:14.000 That's just the law.

04:26:15.000 And I would just say, look, if you really believe that 80 million people voted for Biden, that the 2020 election had more voters than any election in history by far, and it just happened to be the one where there was all mail-in ballots, then yeah, I just think you're dumb.

04:26:30.000 I mean, so that's kind of my closing statement on J6.

04:26:34.000 Same, it's on immigration.

04:26:36.000 Let's do one minute each on immigration.

04:26:38.000 Go ahead, Dean.

04:26:39.000 Cool, I'm just, you could take this off of my time.

04:26:41.000 Well, you told me that your whole theory here is reliant on a smell test.

04:26:46.000 Nick, I fucking smell bullshit.

04:26:48.000 We shouldn't be relying on our intuitions and our emotions to tell us who won the 2020 election.

04:26:53.000 I think that conservatives are so funny because they'll be like, listen to the science, trans women aren't women, I don't care about what you think or feel, you have x, y, x, x chromosomes, but then sit over here and give me some bullshit smell tests to dictate who won in 2020. 1.00

04:27:06.000 About immigration specifically, I think it's evidently clear that Donald Trump doesn't care

04:27:10.000 about the southern border or else he wouldn't have torpedoed the bipartisan border bill

04:27:14.000 in the House and the Senate two years ago.

04:27:16.000 I think that it's evidently clear that he's not about getting shit done.

04:27:19.000 He's repeating the same Republican tagline that every Republican in the last 20 years

04:27:23.000 has with quote unquote deport them all.

04:27:25.000 My question to you would be, why didn't it Bush?

04:27:28.000 They can't do it.

04:27:29.000 It's practically infeasible.

04:27:30.000 I say that we deport all violent undocumented migrants and then give their arrest the pathway 1.00

04:27:35.000 to residency and their citizenship, fix our southern border, make it faster, make it quicker

04:27:40.000 and make it safer and then crack down further on undocumented migration when our legal systems

04:27:45.000 are up to par.

04:27:46.000 You can either import them all, right, get rid of $1.7 trillion from our economy over 0.99

04:27:51.000 the next 10 years.

04:27:52.000 You don't care about the debt.

04:27:54.000 You don't care about the state of the economy.

04:27:55.000 You don't care about the workers in the economy.

04:27:57.000 All that you care about is spewing your fucking prejudice.

04:28:00.000 You're doing the same thing with undocumented migrants now that you did with gay people 1.00

04:28:03.000 and women 30 minutes ago. 1.00

04:28:05.000 Take it away.

04:28:06.000 Closing statement, Nick.

04:28:07.000 One minute.

04:28:08.000 Basket of deplorables, right?

04:28:10.000 It was just a basket of deplorables.

04:28:12.000 With regard to immigration, everybody knows.

04:28:15.000 Biden threw open the border.

04:28:16.000 He rescinded every Trump executive order on immigration.

04:28:19.000 He stopped construction of the wall.

04:28:20.000 He effectively stopped deportations.

04:28:23.000 Guess what happens?

04:28:24.000 You get a lot of people.

04:28:25.000 You get 10 million illegals in 4 years.

04:28:28.000 That's insane.

04:28:28.000 10 million people in 4 years.

04:28:32.000 From Venezuela, from Haiti, from Africa, from every- we don't even know who they are.

04:28:37.000 The people that are coming here, they don't buy healthcare, they don't have a high school education, they have no resources, they're a massive drain on the economy.

04:28:46.000 When they need healthcare, they go to the emergency room.

04:28:48.000 They send their kids to public schools, it's a huge drain.

04:28:51.000 And many states are eligible for SNAP, They're eligible for other benefits. And they work low

04:28:56.000 wages because they're not educated.

04:28:58.000 They work low skill, low paying jobs. They will never in a million years, maybe in a million,

04:29:03.000 but they won't pay off in taxes what they receive in services. It's a big fiscal impact.

04:29:07.000 In many cases, they're criminals. They don't share our culture. They won't like you.

04:29:11.000 And we cannot, I mean, it's just obvious that this border bill thing was an ass saving move.

04:29:17.000 They poison pilled it with a bunch of nonsense so that they could blame it on Trump. But we

04:29:21.000 We all know the reality and it's wrecking our country.

04:29:25.000 That was five topics.

04:29:26.000 I think this was a good spirited debate overall.

04:29:28.000 I appreciate both of your time.

04:29:29.000 Aiden, do you have any thoughts?

04:29:31.000 You guys were, well, I would say about 90% of it you guys respected, you know, each other's time speaking and stuff and it was awesome.

04:29:39.000 It was great.

04:29:39.000 Great conversations.

04:29:40.000 Great, great defense.

04:29:42.000 Great offense.

04:29:43.000 First time I've ever done one of these and it felt really, really cool.

04:29:45.000 I'm definitely do more of this.

04:29:47.000 How do you guys feel?

04:29:48.000 We'll start with you, Dean.

04:29:48.000 Like, how would you feel overall about this debate?

04:29:51.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm like, oh, we got a little bit of an echo there.

04:29:55.000 Oh, sorry, go ahead.

04:29:56.000 No, dude, you're all good.

04:29:57.000 I mean, I think overall, like, I'll first just kind of give my thoughts about, you know, just having the debate on your platform.

04:30:03.000 Dude, I think that was, like, really, really, really cool.

04:30:05.000 I like the idea of exposing more people to what I believe in and why.

04:30:08.000 I ultimately think if everyone thought like me, the world would be better off, and you kind of gave me more of an opportunity to achieve that.

04:30:15.000 All things considered, you know, it's good to have, you know, like, a conversation about why people disagree.

04:30:20.000 These conversations need to be held more I'd say that you're overall doing a good thing here.

04:30:25.000 I think that I did pretty well as well.

04:30:27.000 Nick, specifically to you, I think for a lot of it, you know, you're a pretty disingenuous debater, but I'll keep my personal qualms to myself.

04:30:37.000 I appreciate you for the conversation over the course of the last hour and a half.

04:30:42.000 And then Aiden, maybe you're at the end.

04:30:45.000 I wanted to throw my socials out there for all the people in chat that may want them after watching me debate, but I'll leave that off until later.

04:30:52.000 Thank you so much, bro.

04:30:53.000 I appreciate that, Dean.

04:30:54.000 All right, and what about you, Nick?

04:30:56.000 What would you like to say to the people?

04:30:59.000 And last words to Dean.

04:31:00.000 Go ahead.

04:31:01.000 Yeah, well, thanks for having me on.

04:31:03.000 I thought it was a lot of fun.

04:31:04.000 It's very informative.

04:31:06.000 People get to learn about the topics.

04:31:08.000 That's how you learn about an issue.

04:31:09.000 You know, you have to hear both sides.

04:31:12.000 That wasn't nice.

04:31:12.000 I don't think I was disingenuous.

04:31:14.000 I'm funny, okay, and I'm a little sarcastic sometimes, but I think it's pretty clear to differentiate.

04:31:21.000 You know, I think he's a young guy.

04:31:23.000 Fundamentally, I think a lot of the partisan debates are kind of, they're too shallow.

04:31:28.000 I think that We all kind of go through a phase when we're young, and not to like, sun you, I'm unk status now, but like, we all go through a phase when we're teenagers, we're precocious, have a political disposition.

04:31:41.000 And, you know, we kind of rush for like, I'm a Republican, I'm a Democrat, the Republicans are good, the Democrats are bad.

04:31:47.000 The reality of politics is that Democrats and Republicans are really on the same side.

04:31:51.000 And Republicans are one wing, and they're meant to create the illusion of opposition or dynamism, where there really isn't any.

04:31:59.000 And the personnel and the policies turn over from one administration to the next.

04:32:03.000 There's very little difference.

04:32:05.000 And I think that's even largely true in this election.

04:32:07.000 And people get caught up in rhetoric and these appeals to emotion slogans.

04:32:11.000 People have to really follow the money.

04:32:13.000 They need to look at things like imports and exports.

04:32:16.000 They need to look at energy.

04:32:17.000 They need to look at institutional capture.

04:32:19.000 That's where you really discern the truth.

04:32:21.000 So these kinds of intramural debates are fun.

04:32:23.000 We go back and forth, but it's so much deeper.

04:32:25.000 It's such a complex subject.

04:32:27.000 But it's good that people are interested in it, and I appreciate Dean for coming on.

04:32:32.000 I hope that he keeps reading.

04:32:33.000 Keep reading, keep learning.

04:32:35.000 You know, in 10 years, I guarantee you'll have a totally different viewpoint.

04:32:38.000 Maybe you're still left-wing, but you'll have a different viewpoint for sure.

04:32:42.000 I heard that when I was young.

04:32:43.000 I didn't believe it, and then it was true.

04:32:44.000 I only became more right-wing.

04:32:46.000 But you have to have that curiosity.

04:32:47.000 I'll become more left-wing.

04:32:48.000 I was a Trump supporter when I was 16.

04:32:50.000 I'm sure you will.

04:32:51.000 I'm sure you will.

04:32:54.000 But yeah, I thought it was great.

04:32:54.000 I thought it was great.

04:32:56.000 Wait, sorry, didn't you cut off?

04:32:57.000 You said you were a Trump supporter when you were 16?

04:33:00.000 Oh, dude, I used to be a vehement Trump supporter.

04:33:02.000 Like, Aiden, I was like a big Trump fan, like Andrew Tate guy, I was like all of that shit.

04:33:11.000 You know, we could delve into the reasons why not super necessary for the live, but I guess the point is, the only reason I brought that up is because seemingly I've had a more progressive trend the more that I've matured.

04:33:21.000 I gotcha.

04:33:23.000 Okay.

04:33:23.000 Well, you're going to ask him about a previous debate that Nick had on Twitch.

04:33:27.000 Nick, did you... I'm going to ask you too, Dino, about something as well.

04:33:31.000 Nick, did you previously debate Hasan Abi on Twitch?

04:33:35.000 I did, yes.

04:33:37.000 And someone told me that resulted in you getting banned on Twitch?

04:33:40.000 Yeah.

04:33:41.000 Yeah, that was the reason for my ban.

04:33:43.000 Destiny Mass reported me because he was on the debate as well.

04:33:47.000 Who won the debate in the people's eyes?

04:33:50.000 Me.

04:33:50.000 Well, it was me and Sargon of Akkad, remember him?

04:33:52.000 It was me and him, we won.

04:33:55.000 How did I do compared to Destiny?

04:33:58.000 Not as well.

04:34:00.000 But Destiny is probably your top guy, I think, on the left.

04:34:03.000 Well, let me- Nick, Nick, I'm gonna let- Dean, I'll be real, I'll be real, man.

04:34:07.000 You're 1920, like, you're probably, like, the best well-spoken 1920-year-old debater I've ever heard.

04:34:13.000 And look, and I fucking- No, seriously.

04:34:17.000 And look, I don't agree with everything.

04:34:18.000 It doesn't matter.

04:34:19.000 But still, me and Sneaker are sitting here muted watching.

04:34:22.000 You have a lot of great points.

04:34:24.000 You have a lot of good discussions.

04:34:26.000 You know, a lot of good counters.

04:34:27.000 But, I mean, Nick, go ahead.

04:34:29.000 What do you think about him overall as a debater?

04:34:32.000 You know, I think on a technical level, the rhetoric is effective at debating.

04:34:39.000 I hate rhetoric.

04:34:40.000 There is too much, like, sloganeering in there and kind of, like, cheap turns of phrase that, like, oh, you think that doesn't pass the smell test?

04:34:48.000 This doesn't pass.

04:34:49.000 Those, like, cheap turns of phrase, I think that's what they are.

04:34:52.000 I think they're cheap.

04:34:53.000 Some of the sloganeering, like, Trump is going to make you pay more at the grocery store.

04:34:58.000 This is just, like, political electioneering rhetoric.

04:35:01.000 I like debates that are just very frank and brutal and straightforward and about the facts, and I like humor in there.

04:35:08.000 So it's a different style.

04:35:09.000 I think Dems lean a little more on rhetoric and sophistry and syllogisms and hypotheticals.

04:35:14.000 I think right-wing people are a little bit more plain-talking and maybe lighthearted and fun.

04:35:20.000 That's my view of it.

04:35:23.000 Yeah, I'd hold the exact opposite, but I mean, I'm guessing you'd be able to guess that I'd say that.

04:35:29.000 Well, yeah, you're you and I'm me, so.

04:35:31.000 Exactly.

04:35:32.000 Great.

04:35:33.000 Well, let me ask you both a question.

04:35:34.000 Dean, if you would like to call somebody out, I would love to have you on again.

04:35:38.000 Dean, I would love for you to call somebody.

04:35:40.000 I'll try to pull some who are like maybe two or three people, Dean, that you would like to debate on my stream next.

04:35:48.000 Oh, man, Nico.

04:35:53.000 What topics?

04:35:56.000 Well, I have to talk about it, man.

04:35:58.000 I would love to debate you.

04:36:00.000 I would love to debate you, Sneeko.

04:36:03.000 That's what I'd like to do.

04:36:04.000 I'd also, right, you said like a couple people, I mean if there's selections here, you know, Andrew Tate, okay?

04:36:14.000 This guy, he fucking tweeted at me on Twitter and he said I was the reason why like white people are being replaced or some like crazy Nick Fuentes shit like that.

04:36:23.000 Um, and then I like, I quote, I retweeted it and, uh, called him out.

04:36:29.000 It went crazy, but he's, he's pivoting.

04:36:30.000 He's dodging.

04:36:31.000 I won a debate.

04:36:32.000 Uh, you know, and then something else.

04:36:35.000 I got a buddy.

04:36:36.000 His name is Parker.

04:36:37.000 If y'all ever have anything to be too going on, he would love to hop on one of

04:36:41.000 these and it'd be great for the content.

04:36:43.000 Real smart guy.

04:36:44.000 For sure.

04:36:44.000 Real quick.

04:36:45.000 Do you know who Harry is by the way?

04:36:47.000 Yes.

04:36:48.000 Are you, are you also Harry's friend?

04:36:51.000 Yeah, I'm friends with Harry.

04:36:52.000 Oh, okay.

04:36:52.000 Now I'm just curious.

04:36:54.000 Okay, and then, Nick, who would you like to debate next?

04:36:57.000 I'll see what... I'll work some...

04:37:00.000 I'm calling out Charlie Kirk.

04:37:02.000 I'm calling out Candace Owens.

04:37:04.000 I debate her.

04:37:05.000 I debate Shapiro.

04:37:06.000 I debate... I debate any of the above.

04:37:10.000 Or any of the Democrats.

04:37:11.000 You know, Harry Sisson or whoever.

04:37:13.000 But I usually debate conservatives, actually.

04:37:15.000 So... Gotcha.

04:37:16.000 Real quick.

04:37:17.000 Really quick here.

04:37:18.000 I do want to say, you know, again, Dean, we've been trying to find you.

04:37:23.000 I've been trying to find you a matchup for a while.

04:37:25.000 I want to let you know, everyone was basically like, I'm busy.

04:37:27.000 I can't do it.

04:37:28.000 Nick finds out two minutes later.

04:37:30.000 He doesn't even know who you are.

04:37:31.000 He says, I'm down.

04:37:31.000 Let's do it for sure.

04:37:32.000 I just want to let you know, you know, Nick, you know, I do appreciate the last minute.

04:37:37.000 I was, we were, me and Dean have been trying to go at this thing for, you know, some, quite some time now.

04:37:41.000 So last minute, Nick was just like, yeah, sure.

04:37:42.000 I'll do it.

04:37:43.000 You didn't even know who he was.

04:37:44.000 No hesitation.

04:37:45.000 You just, you just said, screw it.

04:37:46.000 Yeah.

04:37:46.000 Because I will say, I'm not going to say names, but a lot of people didn't want to debate Dean.

04:37:50.000 I'll say that.

04:37:50.000 A lot of people were not really wanting to do it, so... Wait, let me be... Nick has been trying to debate Ben Shapiro for about seven, eight years, and maybe you could use the Jewish connections, and that'd be a great one.

04:38:02.000 Well, it's not a Jewish connection in the atmosphere, but I will reach out to Shapiro, and I'll see if he would like to debate Fuentes.

04:38:09.000 Yeah, I'll do it.

04:38:13.000 Um, okay.

04:38:14.000 Well, you guys were fucking awesome.

04:38:16.000 I appreciate both of you.

04:38:18.000 Again, guys, any last words you'd like to say before we head on out?

04:38:23.000 Yeah, do you mind if I plug myself?

04:38:25.000 Go ahead.

04:38:27.000 If you're watching the debate, I'm sure that it's a heavily right-leaning chat.

04:38:30.000 I mean, this got Donald Trump on a couple months back, so I doubt I'll get that much love.

04:38:34.000 But if you liked what you saw and you enjoyed, you know, my debating style, I'm on Instagram at Dean Withers, D-E-A-N-W-I-T-H-R-S.

04:38:42.000 I'm on Twitter at I-T-S-D-E-A-A-N-N. 1.00

04:38:47.000 It's Dean with two A's, two N's.

04:38:48.000 TikTok is the same thing as a Twitter.

04:38:51.000 But yeah, I appreciate everyone for showing up and showing out.

04:38:53.000 It was a fun little debate tonight.

04:38:55.000 Okay.

04:38:56.000 And then, Nick, anything you'd like to say?

04:39:00.000 Yeah, well, just thanks again, Aiden.

04:39:03.000 Good to talk to you again, Sneko.

04:39:05.000 Dean, thanks for coming on.

04:39:06.000 Fun debate.

04:39:07.000 Appreciate everybody watching.

04:39:09.000 Hey, I've defended Trump, but I'm telling people, don't vote for Trump.

04:39:13.000 He's not far right enough.

04:39:15.000 That's my new, he's bringing us to war with Iran. 0.95

04:39:17.000 He's not going to deport all the illegals.

04:39:19.000 I'm telling people, don't vote.

04:39:20.000 We got the Jill Stein of the right over here.

04:39:22.000 We got the Jill Stein of the right.

04:39:24.000 Okay.

04:39:25.000 Principled.

04:39:25.000 Principled and based.

04:39:27.000 I'm not going to plug myself because that's just like, you know, follow me in real... I'm Nick Fuentes.

04:39:32.000 Follow me at Nick Fuentes in real life.

04:39:34.000 I'm new to the show.

04:39:35.000 I'm new to the show.

04:39:36.000 Yeah, I know.

04:39:37.000 It's fine.

04:39:38.000 When you're young, you... When you're... Look, when you're unk status like me, it's like, hey, follow me in the astral plane, okay?

04:39:44.000 Follow me in the ether.

04:39:46.000 I am on Rumble, though.

04:39:48.000 But, well, yeah, so it was a fun debate.

04:39:50.000 Good meeting you and good seeing you guys, Aidan and Sneko.

04:39:56.000 Oh, sorry, I was muted.

04:39:57.000 All right, guys, I really appreciate it.

04:39:58.000 Thank you so much.

04:39:59.000 You guys have a good night.

04:39:59.000 All right.

04:40:00.000 Thanks, you too.

04:40:01.000 Bye.

04:40:04.000 All right.

04:40:05.000 Well, there you have it.

04:40:08.000 There's the debate.

04:40:09.000 How did I do?

04:40:10.000 How did I do?

04:40:12.000 What do you think?

04:40:14.000 Can we get some live reactions?

04:40:15.000 One in the chat if you think I won.

04:40:17.000 Two if you thought I lost.

04:40:20.000 But really, I only want to see... What do you think?

04:40:22.000 Dubs?

04:40:23.000 Dubs in the chat?

04:40:23.000 Total victory on Aiden Ross?

04:40:26.000 W Aiden Ross?

04:40:27.000 Aiden Ross is one of the best Jews in the country.

04:40:31.000 You know, everybody calls me an anti-Semitic, anti-Semite.

04:40:34.000 I'm not an anti-Semite.

04:40:36.000 I love Jesus.

04:40:38.000 I like Laura Loomer, and I love Aiden Ross, and he's a good dude, and I love Sneko.

04:40:42.000 Look at that!

04:40:43.000 A Jew, a Muslim, a Catholic, and, you know, we're the best of friends.

04:40:47.000 We're great, you know.

04:40:49.000 I don't know if they want me to say that, but, you know, they're good people, and we like them.

04:40:53.000 So, it was a fun debate.

04:40:54.000 I had a good time.

04:40:56.000 All ones in the chat.

04:40:58.000 Dude, like, I can't do, like, the Democrat GPT thing, though.

04:41:02.000 I just can't.

04:41:03.000 The whole, like, Talking like a Democrat politician the whole, you know, you're gonna pay more at the grocery store with Trump.

04:41:12.000 You don't care about the debt?

04:41:14.000 Oh my goodness gracious! 0.99

04:41:15.000 It's like, no, no, nigga, I don't care about the fucking debt. 1.00

04:41:19.000 The debt is going up.

04:41:21.000 That's all you could say about it.

04:41:23.000 It's going up all the time.

04:41:25.000 People go, the tax cuts will cause the deficit to go up.

04:41:28.000 They drop eight trillion dollars because of the pandemic.

04:41:31.000 You worried about tax cuts?

04:41:33.000 Give me a break.

04:41:34.000 They print the money.

04:41:36.000 It's not real, okay?

04:41:37.000 It's called modern monetary theory.

04:41:39.000 So, You know, and the whole like, oh, you believe in God, but slavery's in the Bible?

04:41:45.000 It's like, can we all grow up and be adults about it?

04:41:48.000 Yeah, there's evil in the world, bro.

04:41:52.000 So anyway, so some of that stuff, I'm just like, are you kidding me?

04:41:55.000 Then he's, the whole gay thing, I'm like, yeah, I think homosexuality is just like filthy and violent and unnatural. 1.00

04:42:02.000 And he's like, well, you're just prejudiced.

04:42:05.000 Probably like how you're prejudiced against black people.

04:42:07.000 It's like, what does that even have to do with anything?

04:42:11.000 So, you know, that whole like Democrat brain rot, it's like, it just becomes a waste of time.

04:42:18.000 I'll do it.

04:42:19.000 Don't get me wrong.

04:42:20.000 I'll do it.

04:42:21.000 I have fun.

04:42:21.000 I thought it was a fun debate.

04:42:24.000 I was making jokes.

04:42:25.000 This guy was treating it like it was the Nuremberg trials.

04:42:27.000 He was putting me on trial, asking me questions, pointed questions.

04:42:33.000 But if we're being totally honest, although we'll do it, it is like a big waste of time to argue with liberals about, you know, subjective morality and whether we should have a freaking border and all this kind of stuff.

04:42:46.000 It's like, that's why I think it's far more advantageous and progressive to debate within the conservative movement.

04:42:53.000 We didn't make the conservative movement more right-wing.

04:42:57.000 These brain rot Democrats, they're lost.

04:43:00.000 And you can kind of see it really is like a dispositional thing.

04:43:05.000 When you have this disposition, like the leadership question was so good.

04:43:08.000 Because I'm like, what do you think as a leader?

04:43:11.000 And he's like, well, they have to bring people together for a positive direction.

04:43:17.000 And it's like, yeah, but if you're a conservative, if you're not a girl, you know that being a leader is about being a fucking warlord.

04:43:24.000 Like, you have to be ready to cut people.

04:43:26.000 You can't be president, you can't be king, unless you're willing to cut people.

04:43:30.000 Like, Oliver Stone says that Vladimir Putin executes people himself.

04:43:36.000 Like, he personally kills the people.

04:43:38.000 That's the level, and probably Bill Gates does too.

04:43:42.000 You know, I'm like on a theoretical level.

04:43:45.000 And so when you're talking to somebody and they're saying, we need to protect women and girls, like these slogan-earing things, and it's like, women are actually smarter than us.

04:43:55.000 Like, no, they're not.

04:43:57.000 And saying leadership is about a positive direction.

04:44:02.000 What is this like corpo drone, like human resources talk?

04:44:06.000 We live in the world.

04:44:07.000 We have knowledge through experience.

04:44:09.000 We have knowledge based on common sense and intuition.

04:44:13.000 And, you know, these types of people, they like to come in and...

04:44:17.000 They want to make it about studies or hypotheticals and syllogisms and it's overly reductive.

04:44:24.000 Oh, you think the butt is meant for shitting? 0.94

04:44:27.000 Well, so I can't play the piano?

04:44:29.000 It's like, OK, are we being honest or are we trying to make a point?

04:44:33.000 So, you know, that's why I think engaging with a lot of these Democrats, it's like, OK, what are we doing?

04:44:38.000 They're just like defending a partisan political party.

04:44:44.000 In my view, the world is a far more complex place than like you're a loyal Democrat voter.

04:44:53.000 And then therefore you have to agree with all the basket of goods that comes with being a Democrat and everything.

04:45:00.000 So that's why I say, you know, we're debating and it's like, we got to vote for Kamala because of the deficit.

04:45:04.000 It's like, how out of touch do you have to be to think that that is the seminal issue of our time?

04:45:10.000 Like you must just have no, but that's what happens when you're a young person.

04:45:14.000 I think your context is like, I don't even know what if you don't have a real job, you don't own things, you don't have a sense of history or context in the history of the world.

04:45:27.000 Then you think that what's going on in the world is deficit reduction, when what's going on in the world is like a demographic transition.

04:45:35.000 and this transition because of industrial technological innovations and modernity and

04:45:44.000 liberalism.

04:45:46.000 These are all the primary developments we're really talking about and we're talking about

04:45:51.000 like taxes and he says that tariffs are like a tax on consumers.

04:45:57.000 That came from a think tank, from a multinational corporation-funded think tank.

04:46:04.000 So anyway, I feel like a lot of those conversations are just so like low on the tone.

04:46:10.000 And for people that don't even really know what they're talking about, he got all this stuff wrong where he's like, oh, the border bill was in 2023.

04:46:18.000 It's like, no, it was in 2024.

04:46:20.000 And you'd know that if you knew the whole legislative history of the bill and how it came about and in reaction to what.

04:46:30.000 But if you don't know those things, you easily misplace those facts.

04:46:35.000 I've been doing this for a long time.

04:46:36.000 I know the whole story.

04:46:39.000 So... Anyway, so those are my thoughts.

04:46:42.000 But I thought it was a... It was a fine debate.

04:46:44.000 I was... It was a little obnoxious, all the, like... Just, like, painful, like, new atheism stupidity.

04:46:52.000 But other than that, it was pretty good.

04:46:55.000 So, I wasn't even watching the reactions.

04:46:57.000 I hope the chat liked it.

04:46:58.000 I hope Aiden Ross liked it.

04:47:00.000 Aiden Ross is... People are saying he's calling me right now.

04:47:04.000 Let me pull Discord back up.

04:47:05.000 I don't have my thing on.

04:47:09.000 He's not calling me.

04:47:10.000 People are saying he's not calling me back.

04:47:12.000 If he called me, I'll answer if he calls me back.

04:47:15.000 You're trolling me in the live chat!

04:47:16.000 People are saying, oh, he's calling you back.

04:47:17.000 No, he's not.

04:47:19.000 So anyway.

04:47:20.000 Now, let me see.

04:47:25.000 If we have super chats, I guess I'll read them, even though I don't really want to.

04:47:32.000 No, he is.

04:47:33.000 He did.

04:47:34.000 He didn't.

04:47:35.000 I'm looking at it.

04:47:37.000 Anyway.

04:47:39.000 Alright, let's see.

04:47:39.000 Did we get any big superchats?

04:47:41.000 I'll read the big ones.

04:47:42.000 I'll save the other ones for tomorrow because I'm tired.

04:47:46.000 He's calling on the phone?

04:47:47.000 People are saying... No, he's not, dude.

04:47:49.000 Shut up. 0.95

04:47:50.000 Stop trolling me.

04:47:51.000 You like the hat Schilling?

04:47:53.000 Gingerbread grow a percent $100 who would you rather have run the country your wife or Hitler? 1.00

04:47:57.000 Easy also love the subtle hat shilling throughout the debate w you like the hat shilling you like

04:48:02.000 That is so funny I'm putting on the different hats.

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04:48:31.000 Oh, he is calling me!

04:48:32.000 Okay, he is calling me.

04:48:34.000 Let me call him back.

04:48:38.000 We'll see if he picks up.

04:48:40.000 So yeah, you like the subtle hat shilling?

04:48:42.000 Buy the hat!

04:48:43.000 Buy the hat!

04:48:44.000 I'm changing the hats during the debate.

04:48:47.000 Hey! 0.99

04:48:50.000 What's up?

04:48:51.000 What's up, bro?

04:48:52.000 What up?

04:48:53.000 So what did you think of that?

04:48:55.000 Well, I agree with a lot of the stuff you said, except for the Hitler part and the Holocaust part, but... Yeah, sorry. 0.66

04:49:00.000 He baited me into that.

04:49:01.000 I couldn't help myself.

04:49:02.000 I apologize.

04:49:03.000 You couldn't help yourself, huh?

04:49:05.000 I couldn't.

04:49:06.000 He... I'm not gonna not... I had to spring the trap when he said, would you choose Hitler or your wife?

04:49:11.000 What am I gonna say, my wife?

04:49:12.000 That's a good argument, though.

04:49:13.000 I think everybody would rather have Hitler than their wife. 0.97

04:49:15.000 That's what I'm saying.

04:49:16.000 I was just like... The moment called for it.

04:49:20.000 It demanded it.

04:49:22.000 But yeah, I thought it was good.

04:49:23.000 What do you think of the guy?

04:49:24.000 What do you think of Dean?

04:49:26.000 I think he's a nice guy to me, bro, in the DMs.

04:49:29.000 I think he's, you know, like you said, he's smart, bro.

04:49:34.000 Regardless of what anyone can say, for a 19-year-old, he's really, really smart, bro.

04:49:38.000 He's good.

04:49:40.000 He's good health.

04:49:40.000 He's trained.

04:49:41.000 He's good.

04:49:41.000 You know, he's good.

04:49:43.000 He's precocious, yeah.

04:49:46.000 They're all debate bros.

04:49:47.000 All these teenagers now are all, like, debate bros, but they're all, like, super pro-Democrat or Republican.

04:49:53.000 We need to move beyond that, you know?

04:49:56.000 It's like Harry Sisson.

04:49:57.000 It's like you're 19, you're like a shill for the Democratic Party.

04:50:00.000 At least be, like, a leftist, you know what I mean?

04:50:03.000 Who do you want to win the presidential? 1.00

04:50:07.000 I'm indifferent.

04:50:08.000 I don't really care that much, honestly.

04:50:11.000 I used to want Trump to win, but Trump has totally transformed himself.

04:50:15.000 Why do you say that?

04:50:18.000 Well, like, you know, the big problem in his first term was personnel.

04:50:23.000 He hired all these, like, rhinos, Republicans and name only. 0.91

04:50:26.000 Basically hired the swamp establishment people.

04:50:29.000 And that's why he got, like, nothing done in his first term, because they were all sabotaging him and messing with him.

04:50:35.000 And he's going to do the same thing again.

04:50:36.000 His transition team, his campaign staff, they will fire you for being right-wing.

04:50:42.000 It's going to be log cabin Republicans, it's going to be Zionists, it's going to be... Real quick, real quick. 0.81

04:50:47.000 I mean, dude, and I get it.

04:50:48.000 You could go the Israel route, right? 0.97

04:50:50.000 Both presidents are allied with Israel, you know what I mean?

04:50:52.000 So it's like Kamala or Trump's going to win.

04:50:54.000 But who would you rather have?

04:50:55.000 You said Trump.

04:50:56.000 I get it you're not voting, but you'd be happier if Trump won over Kamala, correct?

04:51:00.000 I mean, Trump would be the better president, but I think in the long run it would be worse because Trump has become a part of the establishment and he will legitimize the establishment.

04:51:10.000 In other words, people think he's a revolutionary.

04:51:13.000 If he wins, people think, oh, we had a revolution, but it's the same stuff.

04:51:18.000 So in a way, it's like if Kamala wins and she does the war in Iran and she catches the recession, it's like we could get a real revolutionary in 28.

04:51:26.000 I'm kind of like, I think we need to just reset and do 28.

04:51:28.000 That's my opinion.

04:51:30.000 Well, regardless, you know, it wouldn't be bad to have four more years of Trump and then you do the reset, you know?

04:51:36.000 I mean, it would take another four years after Trump.

04:51:40.000 It would take another president and then another four years for the reset.

04:51:42.000 I get what you're saying.

04:51:44.000 Guy's already tried calling and he didn't answer.

04:51:47.000 Oh, he is calling me.

04:51:49.000 Wait, let me add you to this call, Nick.

04:51:50.000 Give me a second, okay?

04:51:51.000 Okay.

04:51:53.000 One second.

04:51:54.000 How do I?

04:51:54.000 I think they're bringing in Tate.

04:52:02.000 Let's see.

04:52:07.000 And this is somebody else calling me.

04:52:08.000 I don't even know what that is.

04:52:10.000 Tch tch tch tch tch.

04:52:20.000 All right.

04:52:21.000 Oh yeah, they're bringing on Andrew Tate.

04:52:22.000 Okay.

04:52:23.000 I think they're going to add me in a sec.

04:52:26.000 We'll see here.

04:52:28.000 There we go.

04:52:34.000 My bad.

04:52:35.000 I leaked your shit, bro.

04:52:37.000 That's okay.

04:52:38.000 It's a burner.

04:52:38.000 How many discos have you made?

04:52:40.000 This is a, I don't know, dude, I've been banned since 2018 or something.

04:52:44.000 So every stream, it's a new one.

04:52:49.000 Yup.

04:52:49.000 So this is a new one.

04:52:55.000 How's it going Andrew?

04:52:56.000 Can you hear?

04:52:57.000 Yeah, I'm there.

04:52:58.000 I'm trying to log in on my big computer though.

04:52:59.000 Can you see me?

04:53:00.000 No.

04:53:03.000 Give me two minutes, friends.

04:53:06.000 All right.

04:53:06.000 Sounds good.

04:53:07.000 I'll leave Rumble, and this is the most Rumble stream that we could have possibly done.

04:53:12.000 The timing of this is absolutely incredible.

04:53:14.000 It's great.

04:53:15.000 Well, Nick, I wanted to ask you a question.

04:53:18.000 So, with what's going on in the world, how do we stop the war in your eyes?

04:53:23.000 Like, how do we stop what's going on?

04:53:24.000 There's multiple wars going on, right?

04:53:26.000 So, in your eyes, what do we do to stop the war?

04:53:29.000 Now, I know you are going to probably be like, let's get rid of Israel, but it's obviously, you know, no? 1.00

04:53:33.000 Okay.

04:53:35.000 Just gotta cut the aid.

04:53:36.000 You know, there is a genocide going on in Gaza, and it's horrible.

04:53:39.000 That's what they're—they destroyed half the infrastructure.

04:53:42.000 They probably killed hundreds of thousands with the famine and everything.

04:53:47.000 It's just not moral.

04:53:48.000 We gotta cut the aid.

04:53:49.000 If you cut the aid, the war stops.

04:53:51.000 But the other thing is, Israel wants to bring us into a war with Iran and Hezbollah.

04:53:56.000 It's going to unroll in phases.

04:53:58.000 It's going to unravel first Hamas, then Hezbollah, then Iran. 0.98

04:54:02.000 They want to do regime change in Iran, and they want us to do it.

04:54:04.000 They've wanted it for 20 years, specifically Netanyahu.

04:54:07.000 We've got to cut the aid.

04:54:09.000 is dependent on our money and our military, then we should call the shots and say your war ends now.

04:54:15.000 There's going to be a Palestinian state.

04:54:17.000 You're not going to decapitate the Iranian regime and that's it. 0.67

04:54:20.000 In Russia, you got to say that Ukraine will never join NATO and allow Russia to maintain its sphere of influence with Belarus, Ukraine, Central Asia.

04:54:28.000 It's a multipolar world and they should have their slice of it.

04:54:32.000 They get a vote and you know we're going to lose this war in Ukraine if we don't.

04:54:35.000 So I think that's how you solve it.

04:54:37.000 And I think Trump would do the latter.

04:54:41.000 I think Kamala may do the former, although you're probably right, she'd probably give Israel their war anyway. 0.91

04:54:48.000 So who do you think is the revolutionary that you want in 2028?

04:54:52.000 They haven't announced themselves yet.

04:54:55.000 I don't know who it would be.

04:54:56.000 And it would be... Sorry.

04:54:58.000 The problem is... Yeah, go ahead.

04:54:59.000 Sorry.

04:55:00.000 No, no, no.

04:55:00.000 My bad.

04:55:01.000 My bad.

04:55:01.000 Go.

04:55:01.000 My bad, bro.

04:55:02.000 Go ahead.

04:55:03.000 Yeah, I don't think there is anybody that's really good, you know?

04:55:05.000 And here's the thing.

04:55:07.000 Trump in 2016, let's be very clear.

04:55:09.000 He said, let's end the wars.

04:55:11.000 Let's build a wall.

04:55:12.000 Let's make America great again.

04:55:13.000 Did he do it?

04:55:15.000 No.

04:55:15.000 Well, one, he didn't.

04:55:16.000 But he didn't because he hired, like, establishment Republicans and they sabotaged it.

04:55:23.000 Now, he should have come back and said, I'm only going to hire loyalists.

04:55:26.000 I'm only going to hire America firsters, but he's not doing that now. 0.99

04:55:30.000 And so what you have is he's talking about stapling green cards to diplomas.

04:55:33.000 That means mass immigration.

04:55:35.000 He's threatening a war with Iran.

04:55:37.000 And so for that reason, I'm saying like, as a conservative, as an America firster, he lost me.

04:55:42.000 He became like another Republican.

04:55:44.000 So, but we have, looks like Andrew Tate's here.

04:55:46.000 So we'll, I'm going to introduce him.

04:55:50.000 Hi, guys.

04:55:50.000 I'm just sorting out my tech.

04:55:51.000 You can hear me and see me?

04:55:53.000 Yes, sir.

04:55:53.000 I like your new background and that new camera, maybe?

04:55:56.000 Looks good.

04:55:58.000 Well, thank you very much.

04:55:59.000 Thank you.

04:55:59.000 Are you still on drugs, Aiden?

04:56:01.000 No, I'm not.

04:56:02.000 How's your case going?

04:56:04.000 Oh, well, you know, I am a rapist, as you saw.

04:56:06.000 I saw that on Twitter.

04:56:06.000 You said I was a rapist.

04:56:08.000 But, you know, I'm kind of leaning into it now.

04:56:10.000 Like, I'm a human trafficker.

04:56:12.000 It's how I got so rich.

04:56:13.000 How did you get that, Bugatti?

04:56:14.000 I human traffic.

04:56:15.000 When they come up to me with the TikToks, what's your job? 1.00

04:56:17.000 I'm like, I human traffic.

04:56:19.000 That's what I do.

04:56:20.000 So, um, I have no problem with you saying that.

04:56:22.000 In fact, I kind of like the rumor.

04:56:24.000 It's kind of cool.

04:56:25.000 Street cred.

04:56:26.000 But you know it was a joke.

04:56:27.000 I know you're not a rapist.

04:56:28.000 No, no, no joking.

04:56:29.000 No joking.

04:56:29.000 Don't make me rape your mom.

04:56:31.000 Don't make... Don't make me do it.

04:56:34.000 I'll find her ass, and I'll make it real. 0.51

04:56:36.000 Well, stick to your words.

04:56:38.000 You can't leave the country, so that's impossible.

04:56:40.000 I will human traffic your mother, Aiden.

04:56:42.000 Don't fuck with me.

04:56:44.000 You can't even leave the country!

04:56:46.000 Yet!

04:56:47.000 The case is falling apart in real time, and I need some new, you know, some new spice in my life.

04:56:52.000 Like, they've only raided my house four times.

04:56:54.000 I wake up at 5am every morning expecting the busting with guns, and when they don't, I'm kinda like, You know, you're making your coffee a little bit sad.

04:57:02.000 You know, you got that sad look on your face like, ah, I thought they cared about me.

04:57:06.000 They don't care about me anymore.

04:57:08.000 You know, it's kind of funny.

04:57:10.000 They used to think I was the biggest problem on the internet when I said women couldn't drive, but now everyone knows women can't drive and everyone just agrees with it. 1.00

04:57:16.000 So it's just like, oh, fuck it.

04:57:17.000 Let him off.

04:57:18.000 So now I just keep winning in court.

04:57:20.000 Fun's over.

04:57:20.000 I need to up the game.

04:57:23.000 I had to do something else.

04:57:25.000 The whole point of life is to explore the map of the world, right?

04:57:28.000 What better level to the map than a Romanian dungeon?

04:57:31.000 It's cool.

04:57:34.000 Well, congrats on getting your cars back.

04:57:36.000 It was $40 million worth of vehicles returned.

04:57:39.000 Thank you very much, sir.

04:57:40.000 Thank you.

04:57:40.000 I appreciate that.

04:57:41.000 Thank you.

04:57:42.000 So, yeah, they even gave me my shit back.

04:57:45.000 Like, you know, where's the fun now?

04:57:47.000 I am so over this case.

04:57:49.000 People keep asking me about it and they're like, oh, hey, Andrew, it's been a while.

04:57:52.000 How's the case?

04:57:52.000 Like, I go, do you guys have any idea what it's like to go to court in Romania?

04:57:57.000 Like, I don't even know what they're fucking saying.

04:57:59.000 I don't even know what's going on.

04:58:01.000 I haven't read my indictment.

04:58:02.000 I haven't read any of it.

04:58:03.000 This whole three year saga, I've not read any of it.

04:58:07.000 I don't know what I'm accused of properly.

04:58:11.000 It's just like going through the motions.

04:58:13.000 It's like, either put me in jail or let me go.

04:58:15.000 It is what it is at this point.

04:58:18.000 I feel like just saying, Your Honor, you weren't there.

04:58:20.000 So move to dismiss all charges, please.

04:58:23.000 But I don't think that would work in a legal defense.

04:58:26.000 If I spoke Romanian, that's what I'd say.

04:58:29.000 But I don't.

04:58:29.000 So I'm either going to go to jail or I'm not.

04:58:30.000 But it looks like I'm not.

04:58:31.000 So they gave me all my stuff back.

04:58:32.000 So I'm richer.

04:58:35.000 And it is what it is.

04:58:36.000 What about you guys?

04:58:36.000 What have you all been up to?

04:58:38.000 I saw you debating some little homo earlier on your show. 1.00

04:58:42.000 Who is he?

04:58:42.000 He wants to debate you next!

04:58:44.000 Well, of course he does.

04:58:45.000 Who doesn't want to fucking debate me?

04:58:47.000 He wants relevancy.

04:58:48.000 What's his worldviews?

04:58:49.000 What does he think?

04:58:51.000 I'm all over Trump.

04:58:53.000 He believes that homosexuality is not morally bad. 1.00

04:58:56.000 What are the other ones?

04:59:01.000 He thinks that Kamala's better at immigration. 0.70

04:59:03.000 He thinks that being gay is good. 1.00

04:59:04.000 He thinks that transgenderism is good. 1.00

04:59:06.000 You know, this is one of the only things I disagree with Nick on.

04:59:09.000 Because, Nick, I actually agree with 99% of the things you say.

04:59:13.000 But don't you kind of feel like, when you see little dickheads like that, that the white people just deserve to lose their country?

04:59:22.000 Don't you just kind of look and go, I mean, I'm brown, right?

04:59:26.000 So I'm on both things.

04:59:27.000 But I just kind of look and go, yep.

04:59:29.000 That's why you're fucked.

04:59:30.000 That's why we're gonna keep coming.

04:59:32.000 We're gonna fuck your women. 1.00

04:59:34.000 We're gonna give them babies. 0.99

04:59:35.000 We're gonna keep walking across the border.

04:59:37.000 You ain't gonna do shit.

04:59:38.000 Oh, wait, look, who's the defenders of your race? 0.99

04:59:41.000 Who's the men who are gonna stand up and defend us?

04:59:43.000 And you got this dipshit.

04:59:45.000 They please come destroy us.

04:59:47.000 So they'll fucking, what the fuck you want? 1.00

04:59:50.000 It's true.

04:59:50.000 Well, that's why all the defenders of white people aren't even white.

04:59:53.000 I'm Mexican.

04:59:54.000 They all point that out.

04:59:55.000 They're like, this guy's actually Mexican.

04:59:57.000 And it's true. 0.56

04:59:57.000 It's like, who stands up for white people? 0.56

04:59:59.000 You, Sneko, me, Zerko, who's Albanian.

05:00:03.000 It's like Myron, who's Sudanese.

05:00:07.000 And I'm like, I'm waiting for like the blonde-haired, blue-eyed guy to save us, but you get these people like that guy who was just on here.

05:00:14.000 They're all pro-gay, they say. 0.97

05:00:17.000 It's very interesting how, it's the psychology of just begging for the decimation, hoping that they'll be eaten last by the crocodile.

05:00:23.000 They think if I'm a big enough of a cuck, then they'll keep me as a little serf, they'll keep me as a little slave. 0.98

05:00:28.000 I'm not understanding that.

05:00:30.000 The majority of white people are already marginalized in a country you're in the majority of.

05:00:34.000 What's gonna happen when you're fucking the minority? 0.96

05:00:36.000 It's over!

05:00:36.000 It's fucking over!

05:00:37.000 It's over!

05:00:39.000 Sneeko and I disagreed about this when I was saying that race is super real.

05:00:41.000 It is, because humans are tribal.

05:00:43.000 Humans are tribal, and I'm telling you that's how it works. 0.96

05:00:46.000 If you don't think humans are tribal, sir, Sneeko, go to fucking jail, and you'll see right away how tribal it is. 0.94

05:00:52.000 You'll see this group, that group, this group, that group.

05:00:54.000 Humans are tribal, so when you have A country like America where you have so much hatred towards white people, which has been instigated and pushed via the propaganda machine and by the educational system.

05:01:06.000 They're currently a majority, but they're soon going to become a minority because they don't reproduce and the borders are wide open and little dickheads like whoever that was are begging for it.

05:01:13.000 The future is bleak for the white man.

05:01:17.000 It's true.

05:01:18.000 I've never said that as a brown man.

05:01:19.000 The future is bleak.

05:01:20.000 It's easy to see.

05:01:21.000 I've always agreed with Nick that race is real.

05:01:24.000 That debate can never really be won.

05:01:25.000 Race is real. 0.53

05:01:26.000 But I don't believe that any race is superior to another race.

05:01:29.000 And I don't think that's something that you disagree with as well.

05:01:31.000 I think the wording of your tweet was a little bit... It seemed like you understood why that that...

05:01:37.000 It's saying that white supremacy is totally- that white supremacists are totally right while it's incorrect.

05:01:41.000 I don't think that white people are better than black people. 0.66

05:01:43.000 And I- There's a lot of people on Twitter- Maybe- I would've never said that Nick was a white supremacist either.

05:01:47.000 Nick wants to have a debate about this as well, but I don't think that any race is superior to another.

05:01:51.000 Well, he fucking better be a white supremacist, because he looks white to me, so he better fucking be. 0.51

05:01:55.000 I don't know what kind of cuck you have to be to not believe you're the baddest motherfucker on the planet anyway.

05:01:59.000 I ain't any- Your- Your mic went out.

05:02:04.000 Oh.

05:02:07.000 Now we do.

05:02:08.000 The last part we didn't hear.

05:02:10.000 I think being mixed race is the ultimate human.

05:02:12.000 I think being hybrid is the best possible existence.

05:02:15.000 If you're white and you're not a white supremacist, then you're fucking gay. 0.93

05:02:18.000 And if you're black and you're not a black supremacist, then you're gay. 0.73

05:02:21.000 I believe being mixed race is the perfect possible way to be. 0.99

05:02:25.000 I love being a daywalker.

05:02:26.000 I'm black in jail.

05:02:27.000 I'm white in court.

05:02:28.000 I can do whatever I need to do.

05:02:29.000 It's great.

05:02:31.000 I don't see why you'd be anything else.

05:02:33.000 And the tweet I made was saying race is super real and that white supremacists are right, they're being replaced, and that their life is going to become very difficult.

05:02:40.000 They are!

05:02:41.000 That's completely true.

05:02:42.000 I also believe that cultures are real, and I also believe that cultures derive actions and they derive certain habits from people.

05:02:49.000 I believe that there's a culture in Congo which is different than the culture in the West.

05:02:53.000 So you can sit and say, white people act a certain way, black people act a certain way, or you can pussy out and say it's cultural, but that's the reality of it. 0.83

05:03:00.000 And I also do believe, I'll tell you right now, I'll say it, black people are, we're better athletes.

05:03:07.000 Just the truth.

05:03:08.000 Look at, look at the NFL, look at the NBA.

05:03:10.000 We're better athletes.

05:03:12.000 White people are more organized. 0.69

05:03:14.000 Bro, take it from me.

05:03:15.000 It's the reality of the game.

05:03:16.000 I live with white and black people in my house.

05:03:18.000 Half my family's black.

05:03:19.000 Half my family's white.

05:03:21.000 I'm not saying one's better than the other.

05:03:23.000 What's better depends on the scenario.

05:03:25.000 You can't say one's, you can, I mean, if you're white, you should be saying white people are the best. 0.95

05:03:29.000 If you're black, you should be saying black people are the best. 1.00

05:03:31.000 But it's for me, I'm just sitting here saying, well, it depends on the scenario.

05:03:33.000 If I'm in the, if I'm in the Sahara or if I'm in, if I'm going to have a street fight or if I'm in the desert or whatever, then I want to have all my black friends with me.

05:03:42.000 If I have to go through my legal paperwork, I want my white friends with me. 1.00

05:03:46.000 I want black guys like, this is long. 1.00

05:03:48.000 Just tell the judge, just go to jail, bro.

05:03:50.000 Fuck it.

05:03:51.000 Like, so there's different attitudes towards things.

05:03:53.000 My tweet was pretty clear, I thought.

05:03:55.000 My tweet was that white supremacists are right.

05:03:58.000 They have a huge problem in their nations. 0.65

05:04:01.000 Pretending you don't is the surest path to destruction.

05:04:05.000 And white people pretending they don't are the biggest fucking traitors of all, which is what I tweeted.

05:04:11.000 That the white man's problem is not the black man as much as it is the fucking treasonous cowards on their side. 0.80

05:04:17.000 They're being betrayed by their fellow man and mostly they're betrayed by their women. 0.67

05:04:23.000 The white women are betraying the race completely. 1.00

05:04:26.000 Take it from me!

05:04:28.000 Because they don't give a fuck.

05:04:30.000 They don't give a shit.

05:04:33.000 You said white supremacists are totally right.

05:04:35.000 I think they're wrong about outsourcing the blame on a lot of people.

05:04:39.000 The blame will be about the Zionists, will be about the Jews, will be about the blacks that are coming in. 1.00

05:04:43.000 I think there needs to be more self-accountability from white people, especially the ones that want re-immigration and all these things. 0.76

05:04:50.000 Well, why is the birth rate declining?

05:04:51.000 Is it because everything else is outsourced?

05:04:53.000 Or do we need to blame ourselves for these problems?

05:04:58.000 I don't think it's wrong to blame.

05:05:00.000 You have to place the blame.

05:05:01.000 Because the problem is we are being told by outsiders that we're racist and we're being disarmed by these things.

05:05:08.000 And I think, I don't know if it's even necessarily blame.

05:05:10.000 Like, when I look at immigration, you can understand why desperate people want to come to America and Europe.

05:05:16.000 Of course they want to come here.

05:05:17.000 We have better stuff.

05:05:18.000 They don't like the Constitution.

05:05:19.000 They don't like America.

05:05:20.000 They don't like liberalism.

05:05:21.000 They like welfare.

05:05:23.000 They want housing.

05:05:24.000 They want healthcare.

05:05:26.000 And you get it.

05:05:27.000 But there is clearly a reason why they're coming in.

05:05:29.000 And it is true that white people are a big part of it. 0.88

05:05:33.000 But there is also an active subversion.

05:05:35.000 And like the first political act is to decide who's on your team and who's not on your team.

05:05:40.000 And if we could say that the immigrants are not on our team because they want to come here and we don't want them here. 1.00

05:05:45.000 And if you could say that the liberal white people are in our team because they're letting

05:05:48.000 them in, you could also say that there's subversive elements like the Zionists or like liberal

05:05:52.000 Jews like Soros and others that are poisoning the well, poisoning the culture, bringing 1.00

05:05:57.000 in the immigrants.

05:05:58.000 And it's really more about identification.

05:06:00.000 But I do agree there is a spiritual crisis.

05:06:03.000 It does derive from, like Andrew said, white people are afraid of their own shadow.

05:06:08.000 We're afraid of ourselves.

05:06:10.000 We're afraid to say white supremacy because whites did dominate the globe for 500 years

05:06:14.000 and did subordinate all the people and oppress all the people.

05:06:18.000 And now we're sort of volunteers, like Andrew said, taking the back seat and saying, yeah,

05:06:23.000 come on in, let it all happen.

05:06:25.000 And so to the extent that we have to blame ourselves, we need to have a spiritual revival

05:06:29.000 to say white people can be active, too.

05:06:32.000 White people are going to be bossed around by women. 1.00

05:06:35.000 They're not going to be told they're racist by minorities.

05:06:37.000 They're not going to be neutered with these guilt trips.

05:06:41.000 Yeah, we run shit.

05:06:41.000 We went to the moon.

05:06:42.000 We built everything.

05:06:42.000 We created the world.

05:06:43.000 White people are afraid to say that because it might offend the other.

05:06:46.000 But the other's not afraid of offending us.

05:06:49.000 They don't give a shit.

05:06:49.000 And it's gonna be South Africa like Andrew said.

05:06:51.000 But it's like, yeah, we're the shit.

05:06:53.000 Yeah, we run shit.

05:06:54.000 We went to the moon.

05:06:55.000 We built everything.

05:06:56.000 We created the world.

05:06:57.000 White people are afraid to say that because it might offend the other.

05:07:01.000 But the other's not afraid of offending us.

05:07:03.000 They don't give a shit.

05:07:04.000 And it's gonna be South Africa, like Andrew said.

05:07:06.000 If it's bad now, if there's grievance and resentment.

05:07:09.000 resentment-based politics against whites now, what will it look like when we're in the minority

05:07:13.000 and they're running the government, they're running the institutions?

05:07:17.000 They're going to kill us.

05:07:18.000 They're going to kill us, take our shit.

05:07:19.000 They're going to realize they messed up, and they're going to try and bring us back.

05:07:22.000 That's what happened in Zimbabwe.

05:07:23.000 Yeah, I agree.

05:07:24.000 I think that's exactly what's going to happen.

05:07:27.000 It's kind of interesting because if all the white people, if black people say we want 0.90

05:07:31.000 a black-only town, cool.

05:07:32.000 If white people say we want a white-only town, there's a mental breakdown.

05:07:35.000 And the reason there's a mental breakdown is because people know that that white-only town will be a place everyone wants to go. 0.95

05:07:39.000 So they'll say, why are we not allowed in?

05:07:42.000 That's the reality of it.

05:07:43.000 If you don't believe humans are tribal, then you're a fool.

05:07:46.000 That's the reality of how it works.

05:07:47.000 And as for talking about blaming others, when you go to battle, you have to identify the traitors amongst you, plus your enemy.

05:07:53.000 There are people who are deliberately trying to subvert Western nations.

05:07:56.000 And they're trying to do it on purpose.

05:07:58.000 And they're trying to thin the culture to the point where the only thing there is to do is chase money, because they have the money.

05:08:04.000 This is very interesting.

05:08:04.000 I live in Romania, right?

05:08:06.000 It's 98% white and it's 98% Romanian.

05:08:08.000 Everyone's Romanian here.

05:08:09.000 Even when there's, it's a poor country, but it's very safe.

05:08:12.000 You can walk the street, you can wear a, I drove a $5 million car, wear a million dollar watch, it's very safe.

05:08:18.000 Why is that?

05:08:18.000 Well, if you say to a Romanian, why do you think Romania is safe?

05:08:21.000 They say, well, Romanians don't hurt Romanians. 0.66

05:08:23.000 That's how they think, right?

05:08:25.000 I'm not Romanian, but that's just their general attitude.

05:08:28.000 And the culture's thick.

05:08:29.000 It's unified by lots of things.

05:08:31.000 All the people speak the same language.

05:08:32.000 They watch the same TV shows.

05:08:34.000 They have the same Christmas.

05:08:35.000 They eat the same food.

05:08:36.000 They have the same upbringing.

05:08:39.000 They know each other, blah, blah, blah.

05:08:41.000 America has none of that left.

05:08:42.000 There's nothing that unifies us, not even a sense of history.

05:08:44.000 We have different versions of history, and everyone disagrees on who's good, who's bad.

05:08:49.000 Any opinion you have in America, there's a group of people who want you dead for it.

05:08:53.000 It's bullshit.

05:08:54.000 So the only thing that unifies is, come to America, get rich.

05:08:57.000 That's all there is, in all the Western world.

05:08:59.000 Come, get rich.

05:09:01.000 Which is fine, except people aren't getting rich anymore.

05:09:04.000 So this is why it's all fucking falling apart.

05:09:06.000 Plus, the people who want that to happen are the people who have all the money.

05:09:08.000 So everyone's just chasing what they have, because that puts them more valuable, right?

05:09:11.000 If I have all the money, I want everyone to chase my money.

05:09:13.000 So we're not even, if you look at a country like America, they're not even trying to make people have a base belief and respect for the country anymore.

05:09:22.000 At least in Dubai, which everyone goes to, because you want to talk about immigration, you can talk about Dubai.

05:09:26.000 Dubai is 80% immigrants and there's no racism and there's no problems.

05:09:29.000 Well, that's because everyone turns up and they behave themselves because they're shit scared.

05:09:33.000 Two, they feel lucky to be there.

05:09:34.000 Three, yes, they get money.

05:09:36.000 But the first two are respect for the law.

05:09:37.000 And secondly, they feel lucky to be there.

05:09:40.000 Nobody in Dubai talks bad about Dubai.

05:09:42.000 Not nobody.

05:09:42.000 You can't find one.

05:09:43.000 Try.

05:09:44.000 Because they respect the place.

05:09:46.000 Yeah.

05:09:46.000 America's now falling into such trouble.

05:09:49.000 When I go to America, it just looks like a fucking dump.

05:09:52.000 I'm from Romania.

05:09:53.000 I live in Romania.

05:09:54.000 It looks better than America. 0.99

05:09:56.000 So like, if America wants to pull off this immigration thing, that's fine, but you need to fix all your infrastructure, you need to have people respecting the place, you need to have people respecting the flag no matter what, or you need to be instantly deported.

05:10:07.000 You need to have something that unifies people, at least be unified behind the flag if you're not unified by anything else, if you're not unified by race, religion, culture, whatever.

05:10:13.000 You need to have something.

05:10:14.000 What has America got?

05:10:16.000 We can make money.

05:10:17.000 That is it.

05:10:18.000 So what's going to happen when the money dries up?

05:10:20.000 Well, look at the democratic cities.

05:10:21.000 You'll see what happens when the money dries up.

05:10:23.000 Everyone's doing drugs because they believe that they're some fucking rock star.

05:10:27.000 Why?

05:10:28.000 We talk about... It's very interesting because we talk about poverty making people do drugs.

05:10:33.000 I live in the poorest country in Europe.

05:10:35.000 There's no drugs.

05:10:37.000 So what America has this... It's Achilles heel. 0.97

05:10:40.000 It's strength and weakness is the same thing.

05:10:42.000 It's this individualism.

05:10:43.000 That's why you have so many fantastic entrepreneurs.

05:10:45.000 That's why you have so many fantastic athletes.

05:10:47.000 It's true.

05:10:48.000 But it goes the other way.

05:10:49.000 When you tell every single dipshit he's special, Then he deserves a special existence, and if he doesn't get it, he ends up on fucking heroin.

05:10:56.000 You don't have these problems in other countries because not everyone's told they're special.

05:10:59.000 You think fucking Ching Chang in China's told he's special? 1.00

05:11:03.000 Work in the factory, sir.

05:11:04.000 That's your life.

05:11:06.000 Cool.

05:11:07.000 Done.

05:11:08.000 So, like, America has these huge cultural issues.

05:11:11.000 And the more tribalized it gets, the worse it is going to be for white people.

05:11:16.000 And the reason I'll actually say that is because I think the white people are, they're constrained by their tolerance to the point where they're neutered.

05:11:26.000 They have no balls. 0.82

05:11:28.000 They have no balls left.

05:11:29.000 And it's a power vacuum.

05:11:31.000 And the power vacuum's gonna be filled.

05:11:33.000 That's what's gonna happen.

05:11:33.000 White people are least likely to be violent.

05:11:36.000 They're the least likely to riot.

05:11:37.000 The least likely to complain.

05:11:39.000 If they do do something, it's done in such an organized, nice way that nobody gives a shit.

05:11:44.000 So it is what it is.

05:11:45.000 How do we expect this trend to end besides the decimation of the white race? 1.00

05:11:51.000 It's pretty obvious for me to see.

05:11:53.000 I'm saying as a brown man, this is just obvious to see.

05:11:56.000 Plus, the game's not fair.

05:11:59.000 And the game's not fair because a lot of this comes down to reproduction.

05:12:02.000 And the beautiful thing that built the Western countries that we want to live in, everyone wants to live in a Western country, everybody, is get married, have a family.

05:12:11.000 Yeah, I agree.

05:12:13.000 But then you can't out-compete the people who turn up and just breed. 0.98

05:12:18.000 I'll say it right now as a brown man myself, I got seven fucking baby mothers.

05:12:22.000 How you gonna beat me?

05:12:24.000 I'm the repopulator.

05:12:27.000 You can't!

05:12:29.000 Something has to be done, but if you're not even going to discuss it, you're not even going to discuss the issue, then it's fucking over.

05:12:35.000 It's over.

05:12:37.000 Now, we can have a different conversation about whether the world would be a nicer place when everyone's brown, or whether it's a better place, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

05:12:43.000 But I don't think we can debate that white people are going to go extinct in the next hundred years. 0.56

05:12:47.000 I think that's pretty obvious for anyone to see.

05:12:49.000 Isn't it?

05:12:54.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

05:12:55.000 That's, you know, I was at Charlottesville, I was at January 6th, all that stuff.

05:13:00.000 And it's like, you know, for years they called it a conspiracy theory.

05:13:03.000 You call white genocide, white replacement, it's obviously what's going on. 0.96

05:13:07.000 It's only happening in white countries. 0.91

05:13:09.000 It's non-white people from Africa, Asia, Latin America, and the global south moving north. 0.96

05:13:14.000 They come to our countries, they have a higher fertility rate.

05:13:17.000 And they, you know, sometimes they call it population refreshment.

05:13:20.000 Okay, well that's a semantic difference.

05:13:22.000 We're not having kids.

05:13:24.000 They want to bring in the immigrants to make up the difference. 1.00

05:13:26.000 Eventually, they're going to outnumber us.

05:13:28.000 In Canada, they like doubled the population with immigrants.

05:13:30.000 It's like all Asians there. 1.00

05:13:31.000 It happened in 20 years.

05:13:32.000 It's totally insane.

05:13:34.000 And then you have the political effect of then the majority wields the power.

05:13:37.000 In a democracy, in a country that isn't colonial or a dictatorship, The more non-whites you have, they're going to exert their own ethnic or political self-interest. 1.00

05:13:47.000 They're going to run our stuff.

05:13:49.000 It's just a natural conclusion.

05:13:50.000 And for years they said, well, if you say that fact and it's a math equation, you're a racist, you're a conspiracy theorist, you're a white nationalist.

05:13:59.000 And there's like a special, it's like you said, the game is rigged.

05:14:01.000 For years, if you talk about it, they censor you.

05:14:04.000 On Facebook, they said white separatism, white nationalism.

05:14:07.000 If you are those things, you can't be on Facebook and Instagram.

05:14:10.000 Well, guess what?

05:14:10.000 That's the means of communication.

05:14:12.000 If you want people to know something or think something, you have to be on Instagram and Facebook, or one of the big ones.

05:14:18.000 And they are the biggest ones.

05:14:19.000 Facebook's like...

05:14:20.000 Three billion users, Instagram's over a billion.

05:14:23.000 They take you off if you say that.

05:14:25.000 And it was like that on Twitter.

05:14:27.000 It is like that on YouTube.

05:14:28.000 You can't even get the word out.

05:14:29.000 And then, of course, we know that if you do try to come together politically in spite of that, like in Germany, they have the AFD, which says we're going to re-migrate all the immigrants.

05:14:38.000 Then they just ban them from running.

05:14:39.000 They start arresting the leaders, and I know a lot of them.

05:14:42.000 You know a lot of them, Andrew.

05:14:43.000 You know Thierry Bidet in Netherlands, and there's Tries van Legenhoven in Belgium, and AFD is one of the good ones in Germany.

05:14:50.000 When they start to win, they just start arresting them and throw them out.

05:14:54.000 And it's like...

05:14:55.000 You really do have to come up with like a sophisticated plan, but it starts with the conversation to bring people in and get people thinking our way on this to address the crisis.

05:15:04.000 Because like you said, like it, love it, indifferent.

05:15:07.000 In a hundred years, it's a math equation.

05:15:10.000 There's going to be very few white people globally.

05:15:12.000 There's going to be a lot of Africans, a lot of Indians, some Asians, some Hispanics.

05:15:17.000 That's going to be your world.

05:15:18.000 And it's like, if you like the world that Africa is, You're going to love the world in 2100 because there'll be 4 billion of them. 0.99

05:15:24.000 And if you like the world that Europe used to be and America was, well, you're going to hate it in the future because there'll be 20% of the population here, 20% of the population in Europe, and it's just not going to be the same.

05:15:35.000 And people don't realize that.

05:15:36.000 All this DEI, you know, refugee crisis, migrant stuff, this is just going to be life. 1.00

05:15:42.000 There's no white flight.

05:15:43.000 You can't get away from it.

05:15:45.000 If you try to create a little polity, it's like, good luck, they're going to drop bombs on it, you know?

05:15:50.000 It's like in South Africa.

05:15:51.000 South Africa, they have a small community called Arania of ethnic Dutch Boers, the white people that used to rule the country.

05:15:58.000 There's like 2,000 people there.

05:16:00.000 They're trying to get 10,000, 20,000.

05:16:03.000 But it's like, what happens if the black African government just decides to drop bombs on them with fighter jets? 0.76

05:16:08.000 They're done.

05:16:09.000 So it's like, how do you build a state within a state?

05:16:11.000 It's a very complex problem and you're not even allowed to talk about it without immense stigma.

05:16:15.000 I talk about it, people say, you're Mexican, you're mixed race.

05:16:19.000 It's like, you're literally mixed race and you don't need to be white to say, This is factually, indisputably, undeniably what's happening, and this will be the result, so, you know. 0.98

05:16:29.000 I think this is pretty funny though, because right now you can see the Jew's got three minorities doing the content for him. 0.96

05:16:38.000 But no, I mean, I agree with all of that.

05:16:40.000 Just that the major disagreement is just that some of these, a lot of these people are shills. 0.57

05:16:44.000 They come in and they pretend to care about the white race, and I'm sure you've seen it, and there's been disagreements on Twitter about who's a fed and who's not. 0.73

05:16:50.000 A lot of these people are hired to go and stir up division within Western countries.

05:16:55.000 They don't actually care about the white race. 0.54

05:16:57.000 They don't care about the countries.

05:16:58.000 They're getting paid.

05:16:59.000 And I don't think that we should follow these people.

05:17:01.000 So when it comes to the idea of white supremacy, we got to be careful about who we follow, because I think a lot of these people are contributing to the division more than they're saying anything right.

05:17:10.000 Well, I'm quite Darwinistic.

05:17:12.000 My worldview is quite Darwinistic.

05:17:13.000 I'll be honest with you.

05:17:14.000 When I highlight these things and say these things, it's because it's obvious.

05:17:18.000 I mean, it doesn't mean I like it.

05:17:19.000 I'm not even emotionally invested in it.

05:17:21.000 It's just true.

05:17:23.000 I don't actually give a shit that much because I'm brown passing. 1.00

05:17:28.000 I pass for the other team, so it's fine for me.

05:17:30.000 I'm just pointing out because it's obvious as fuck.

05:17:33.000 And I'm not going to sit here and be a person who denies reality.

05:17:36.000 But I'm quite Darwinistic about these things.

05:17:38.000 I'll be honest with you.

05:17:39.000 When I saw that little homo you guys were talking to earlier, I look at it and go, yep. 1.00

05:17:44.000 I mean, I know it's easy for me to say, But if the white man's going to allow this to happen, then I guess it's just the plan.

05:17:52.000 I guess that's just how it's all going to work out.

05:17:54.000 Some people go extinct.

05:17:55.000 You should have got some claws. 1.00

05:17:57.000 I'm not here to try and... I'll point it out because it's obvious.

05:18:01.000 But this is what's happening.

05:18:02.000 And then when you talk about how when you highlight these things, you're attacked.

05:18:06.000 They'll attack Nick for being Mexican. 0.99

05:18:08.000 Nick's whole life has been derailed for telling the truth, as has mine.

05:18:12.000 You talk about AFD getting arrested.

05:18:13.000 Yeah, I know all about it.

05:18:15.000 They fucking busted my door down.

05:18:17.000 They didn't bust my door down when I had a webcam studio.

05:18:19.000 Oh, no, they didn't give a fuck.

05:18:21.000 When I talked about the truth online, they bust my door down for my old webcam studio.

05:18:25.000 Bro, it's all fucking bullshit.

05:18:27.000 So I know all about these things.

05:18:30.000 But when you say this, then it's interesting because I say these things online.

05:18:33.000 I did a tweet that went mega viral where I said, it's over for white people. 0.99

05:18:36.000 You're not having babies.

05:18:37.000 I did some big tweet.

05:18:39.000 The amount of butthurt bullshit.

05:18:42.000 All these white people are like, yeah, well, fuck off, nigger. 1.00

05:18:44.000 You're getting butt hurt. 0.56

05:18:44.000 I'm like, bro, I'm trying to fucking help you losers. 0.56

05:18:47.000 Like, what do you want?

05:18:48.000 Then just fucking, then just go extinct.

05:18:51.000 Then just fuck off.

05:18:53.000 Because your women don't give a shit. 1.00

05:18:55.000 Your women are chasing brown men all day. 1.00

05:18:57.000 Trust me.

05:18:58.000 So like, it's interesting.

05:19:00.000 I'm observing it as it's an interesting observation.

05:19:04.000 But you'd be a fool and a liar to try and pretend that Western countries as we know them and the things we love about Western countries isn't gonna change when all of the people fucking change.

05:19:17.000 You're a dumbass to pretend that's not the case.

05:19:20.000 It's gonna be a completely different place.

05:19:21.000 Completely different world.

05:19:22.000 It's not the geography, it's the people in it.

05:19:24.000 I think that's pretty obvious for anyone to see.

05:19:26.000 And I also think I've never had a conversation with anyone who's on the other side of this debate, really.

05:19:33.000 I've never debated anybody.

05:19:35.000 But, I mean, aren't all their positions super hypocritical?

05:19:39.000 Because they all live in the West.

05:19:41.000 Don't these people all live in the West?

05:19:42.000 They never go back to wherever.

05:19:44.000 So doesn't everyone just agree with this?

05:19:47.000 Isn't this just calling water wet?

05:19:49.000 I don't know.

05:19:51.000 I don't know.

05:19:51.000 Maybe there's a counter-argument I haven't heard, but to me it's pretty fucking clear.

05:19:58.000 Yeah, where I agree with Nick and why I like the America First movement so much is how much he incorporates the idea of God, which I see lacking from a lot of white supremacists.

05:20:08.000 And since I started getting into the space, I'm sure you've seen it, Nick.

05:20:11.000 The Gorkas have gone back and forth with the Wignats.

05:20:13.000 I'm sure you've seen that, Tate.

05:20:14.000 These people, they get on there and they just yell slurs, and I don't think they help at all.

05:20:19.000 I think that they make the movement look kind of stupid, and they make people discredit what should happen and how we need to bring back some sort of traditional values in the West.

05:20:27.000 But America First, next movement, and all... I mean, even then, of course, what Tate has been talking about for two years, you've done a good job of making people realize what we're supposed to do, and bringing the idea of God back.

05:20:38.000 And so I'd like to see that more, and I want to see that more from a lot of these white supremacists.

05:20:41.000 They don't speak about that as much.

05:20:42.000 It seems like a lot of them would rather worship their skin color rather than worship God.

05:20:47.000 Well, I think religion's the only thing that can mediate the differences in race, because Andrew's right that it is Darwinistic, and people are tribalistic, and in a vacuum, I think without a kind of universal religion, everyone's just gonna kill each other.

05:21:02.000 It's gonna be a race war. 0.94

05:21:03.000 And that's what history really is.

05:21:04.000 I mean, even with religion, history is a race war. 0.79

05:21:07.000 And you could say that religion kind of overlaps with that, but You know, like when the Americans, when the English first came to the American continent, it was an all-out race war with the Indians, and it was for hundreds of years.

05:21:18.000 And same thing in Africa, and same thing with the Muslims and the Europeans. 0.92

05:21:22.000 All of history is basically just one big race war. 0.76

05:21:25.000 And I think, you know, obviously the reason that people are apprehensive about white pride and white nationalism and white separatism It's because of Hitler. 0.84

05:21:36.000 It's because of Hitler, slavery, colonialism. 0.88

05:21:38.000 And they know that when white people are left to their own devices and when they're proud, there will be an enormous disparity in power.

05:21:45.000 In the same way that there are persistent disparities between the races in America today.

05:21:49.000 They know that white society will be richer, more technologically advanced, because whites are more martial, more innovative. 1.00

05:21:56.000 And they fear what white people do with the power because for centuries they oppressed people.

05:22:00.000 And this is why, you know, liberalism really proceeded from that period.

05:22:05.000 Liberalism, Christianity kind of went hand in hand and they developed this idea that, well, you know, we're going to free the slaves and treat everyone as equals and so on.

05:22:14.000 And it's almost like we went too far in that direction.

05:22:17.000 And now people that are illiberal and people that are not, they don't love their neighbor.

05:22:21.000 They don't see whites.

05:22:22.000 They hate whites. 0.85

05:22:23.000 A lot of them hate whites and blame whites for slavery and colonialism.

05:22:27.000 We're letting them in our communities where they want to do us harm and they're actually indifferent to our problems and who we are and our identity and we're going to be erased.

05:22:35.000 So people say, well, you know, yes, we don't want whites to go away, but also if we empower whites, isn't that going to imperil all the other races just like it did in the past? 0.83

05:22:46.000 And it's true. 0.56

05:22:46.000 I mean, Hitler was a pagan in many ways. 0.56

05:22:49.000 And, you know, some of his people were into the occult and esoteric stuff and they were into eugenics. 0.89

05:22:55.000 I think people, you know, non-white people rightly don't want to be killed or lost in the gene pool. 0.95

05:23:00.000 I think what mediates that is Christianity, which says that, you know, God created the races, created the nations, but doesn't want us to be integrating so much that we disappear, but also doesn't want us killing each other.

05:23:11.000 And I think you could have harmony in a community of nations if you believe in God and you see everybody's an equal.

05:23:17.000 But there is a tension, which people point out, that at once we're universal and we say we're all children of God.

05:23:23.000 At the same time, we're like, yeah, the black people could be children of God over there.

05:23:27.000 You could go be a children of God over in Haiti and stay there. 0.97

05:23:30.000 And, you know, but there's a logic to that.

05:23:32.000 Because as long as there are Haitians and Africans and Indians and Chinese and all these people in America, there'll be no more white Americans. 0.99

05:23:40.000 And Europeans are the ones that evangelized the world.

05:23:43.000 They systematized Catholicism and Christianity.

05:23:46.000 They created liberalism and tolerance and ended slavery and all these things.

05:23:50.000 And so it's a question, is it good for anybody in the whole world if all that goes away?

05:23:55.000 You still have slavery in Africa. 0.85

05:23:57.000 And you still have tribalism in Central America.

05:24:00.000 Like, drug cartels, they're just like modern Indians. 1.00

05:24:03.000 They're modern Indians.

05:24:04.000 You know, they're cutting people's heads off, scalping people.

05:24:07.000 So, you know, it's a difficult conversation, but people need to get there, and I think they need to be guided by the principles of no cruelty.

05:24:14.000 We don't want cruelty.

05:24:15.000 We want mercy, compassion, and love.

05:24:17.000 At the same time, you know, we have to take care of our own first.

05:24:21.000 And your own is your family, and your kin are your extended family.

05:24:24.000 And it's true. 0.56

05:24:25.000 What Andrew said is so true.

05:24:26.000 If you don't call yourself white supremacist or something like that, it's almost like you don't love your own people.

05:24:31.000 If you're going out there and you have a liberal attitude about race, it's like, do you really love yourself?

05:24:35.000 Do you love your parents?

05:24:36.000 Do you have dreams of progeny that look like you and your grandparents?

05:24:39.000 If you don't, I think that's deeply fucked up.

05:24:41.000 And only white people think that way.

05:24:44.000 So it's a bit of a problem, but Christianity can moderate the excesses.

05:24:48.000 Yeah, they've subjugated the white man via their female primarily. 0.91

05:24:52.000 That's what they've done.

05:24:52.000 They've gone to the female's head, and their female now runs the house.

05:24:56.000 And that's how the white man's been subjugated, because white women don't listen to white men anymore. 1.00

05:25:00.000 White women listen to black men, and black women have to, to a degree, listen to a black man, or he won't come home at all. 0.98

05:25:06.000 But white women get to sit in a house that's paid for and ignore her man all day. 1.00

05:25:10.000 And that's why the whole fucking race is fucked. 0.99

05:25:12.000 And we talk about how the white people were bad with their power. 0.53

05:25:16.000 Well, who was better with power?

05:25:18.000 That's what power does.

05:25:19.000 Power is not going to only ever do nice things forever.

05:25:22.000 That's some altruistic garbage.

05:25:24.000 When you have power, sometimes you do good things, sometimes you do bad things.

05:25:27.000 And white people have done a whole bunch of good things.

05:25:30.000 There's a guy online who was saying something, I can't remember his last name, but he was saying something about how the American empire is so evil.

05:25:37.000 I agree.

05:25:39.000 I'm one of the biggest critics of the West and how bad America is and how hypocritical they are and how they break international law, etc.

05:25:47.000 But I'm also pretty smart enough to know that once America loses hegemony and Russia or China is in charge, do we really think the world is going to be fairer?

05:25:54.000 Is it going to be nicer?

05:25:56.000 Are they going to run it better?

05:25:57.000 It's gonna be the same shit, just different people getting bombed.

05:26:01.000 This is what power does.

05:26:03.000 So they hate white people because they were powerful and they fear that the white people can become powerful again because they believe that white people are inherently evil.

05:26:09.000 But if you give any race that degree of power, in fact, I would argue that white people are probably the most merciful. 0.92

05:26:15.000 If you look at the power disparity between a white nation and some of the nations they've gone to war with, they've been very nice because they could have really, they could have genocided. 0.89

05:26:26.000 White people could have truly genocided. 1.00

05:26:28.000 Yeah, they had some concentration camps, they did some shit.

05:26:31.000 It was the 1800s, bro.

05:26:32.000 I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that that offends me, because it was the 18-fucking-hundreds.

05:26:37.000 Right?

05:26:38.000 But if you actually look at the power disparity, they were pretty fair with that power.

05:26:42.000 And like I said, Talk about jail.

05:26:45.000 If you gave a gang that much power over another gang in a jail, you'll see quickly how power is used.

05:26:51.000 That's just how the world works.

05:26:52.000 But yeah, a white man has been subjugated by their female. 0.90

05:26:55.000 Their women don't listen to men anymore. 1.00

05:26:56.000 Their women think for themselves, but women don't think for themselves. 1.00

05:27:00.000 I'm a misogynist.

05:27:01.000 Fuck it.

05:27:01.000 Lock me up.

05:27:02.000 Women don't think for themselves. 1.00

05:27:03.000 They either obey their man or they obey the TV.

05:27:05.000 That's it!

05:27:06.000 They are empty vessels waiting to be programmed.

05:27:09.000 So because they don't obey their man, they obey the TV.

05:27:11.000 That's why women have points of view that they can't even fucking explain. 1.00

05:27:14.000 Talk to the average Western female and ask her to explain why she thinks what she thinks. 0.99

05:27:18.000 She can't.

05:27:19.000 She can repeat what the TV told her, but she can't tell you why she thinks it.

05:27:23.000 She can't give you any personal experience that led her there.

05:27:26.000 She'll just get offended and shocked and start going, you didn't, are you serious?

05:27:31.000 Yeah, I'm fucking serious, bitch. 1.00

05:27:32.000 Explain yourself.

05:27:34.000 Do it. They can't because they're fucking idiots. So this is why, this is the thing we don't talk

05:27:41.000 about. The reason the white race is losing is all women's fault because in other races, 1.00

05:27:48.000 they have children, which is their job, and they obey their man. I'm a misogynist.

05:27:53.000 Come on, BBC.

05:27:54.000 Print it.

05:27:54.000 Lock me up.

05:27:55.000 Fuck you.

05:27:56.000 This is the bottom line of it.

05:27:57.000 Whereas white women are like, I don't want a kid until we have four houses and three cars. 1.00

05:28:01.000 I want Instagram likes.

05:28:02.000 I want a Birkin bag.

05:28:03.000 They're chasing Instagram likes instead of chasing children.

05:28:07.000 And that's the bottom line for the old decimation of the white race. 0.97

05:28:10.000 Then you got little dipshits like the dickhead who was just on the show, whoever the fuck he is.

05:28:15.000 Come in here and sit and realize, he doesn't realize, but what's happened is he goes, fuck, the white race is fucked.

05:28:21.000 These big black guys can kick my ass. 1.00

05:28:23.000 Maybe if I suck them off, they won't kill me.

05:28:26.000 But you're just going to end up dead a little bit later.

05:28:29.000 The crocodile might eat you last.

05:28:30.000 You still get eaten, pussy. 1.00

05:28:32.000 Do your fucking, do some balls. 0.88

05:28:34.000 Fight, die on your way out. 0.84

05:28:36.000 Fight like a fucking man. 0.83

05:28:38.000 And this is just me as a man talking.

05:28:40.000 I'm not pro white.

05:28:41.000 I'm not white.

05:28:42.000 This is just obvious as fuck.

05:28:45.000 You're right.

05:28:46.000 I mean, if you look at the power that Taylor Swift has, and she's the best example of a white woman leading white people in the West, a lot of the problems could be attributed back to them.

05:28:55.000 But if you go a step further, the problems of liberalism, like we saw with the debater here, feminism, and these ideas, it came from this Enlightenment idea that started, that founded America.

05:29:05.000 Because these people weren't Christian. 0.91

05:29:07.000 The people that founded America, a lot of them were Freemasons.

05:29:09.000 They followed French philosophy of Enlightenment.

05:29:12.000 And I think that the root of that came from this idea that whites had a higher IQ, which if you look at the stats, they do. 0.98

05:29:19.000 Asians have the highest and whites have the highest IQ in America.

05:29:24.000 And that's where this Enlightenment idea comes from.

05:29:26.000 That's how you get liberalism.

05:29:27.000 That's how you get feminism. 1.00

05:29:29.000 The guy that was just on, yes, he's wrong about everything, but he probably has a high IQ.

05:29:33.000 So if you put that first, if you favor your skin color in front of God, that's how your woman ends up ruling you in the household. 1.00

05:29:41.000 That's how feminism spreads like a disease. 1.00

05:29:44.000 I disagree.

05:29:45.000 I think it's a tale as old as time because you've seen societies in the past, they're ruled by women. 1.00

05:29:50.000 It's something like, you know, when you have a government in like the early stages, it's very martial.

05:29:56.000 It's like the warriors are the government, like Israel. 0.57

05:29:59.000 When Israel was founded, it's people that were literally in wars, people that were literally there driving the tanks and, you know, doing the massacres that became the prime minister, that became the president.

05:30:09.000 And so, there's like a certain class of people that are running society and it's a certain mindset.

05:30:13.000 It's like a survival mindset.

05:30:15.000 It's like if you got left in the woods, you would learn about the laws of the jungle and you'd be a changed person.

05:30:20.000 You'd be a certain kind of person.

05:30:21.000 We live in a very decadent technological society where if somebody breaks into your home, you call the police.

05:30:28.000 You know, if you're like a bitch, you call the cops and cops with guns come and show up and they remedy the problem. 1.00

05:30:33.000 People, they go into school, they go to college, they have this prolonged adolescence, then they go and work at a desk job.

05:30:40.000 Nobody knows about violence.

05:30:42.000 Nobody knows about struggle.

05:30:43.000 Nobody knows about survival.

05:30:44.000 And I'm no different.

05:30:45.000 I'm a product of it as well.

05:30:47.000 I was born in 98.

05:30:47.000 It's the same story.

05:30:49.000 And so with all the prosperity and indulgence, I think it gives itself to These kinds of ideas like women should have the same rights as us and we got to promote niceness and tolerance over common sense, strength, wisdom, those kinds of things.

05:31:05.000 I think it's a tale often told.

05:31:06.000 And because Western society is so decadent and so rich and so sophisticated, in many ways it's defeated us.

05:31:14.000 We become weak and then we're prone to women. 1.00

05:31:16.000 Because women are really the masters of intrigue. 1.00

05:31:19.000 In a world where there's these giant corporations and giant, massive organizations which are highly centralized, who are the gatekeepers?

05:31:28.000 It's HR.

05:31:29.000 It's the women. 1.00

05:31:31.000 And, you know, there's some ideological stuff in there too.

05:31:34.000 You know, this individualism that says that, you know, we're all people and everyone should vote and work, and then necessarily then that extends to women as well.

05:31:41.000 So there's something ideological too.

05:31:43.000 But, I mean, all of that aside, we could diagnose how it happened.

05:31:47.000 It's a symptom of modernity, but women are fucking it up. 1.00

05:31:50.000 And the problem is, the number of white men that are actually based, it's like zero.

05:31:55.000 Because they may know all this stuff about race and understand white genocide, but then they'll totally simp for their girlfriend.

05:32:02.000 They'll totally simp.

05:32:03.000 They're going to say things like, you can't criticize women. 1.00

05:32:06.000 Women are part of the movement, too.

05:32:07.000 You can't say women are dumb! 1.00

05:32:08.000 We're about white women! 1.00

05:32:11.000 That's why I always supported you, because first things first, you need to tell women to shut the fuck up. 1.00

05:32:18.000 If you can't tell them to shut up forcefully and listen.

05:32:21.000 And it's also a big problem with Christians. 0.94

05:32:23.000 That's why Muslims have an advantage. 1.00

05:32:27.000 They put women in like a burqa. 1.00

05:32:28.000 They put a woman in a cob. 1.00

05:32:29.000 They say, shut the fuck up. 1.00

05:32:30.000 Here's an Etch-A-Sketch.

05:32:31.000 Go over there.

05:32:32.000 Write out your answers with the Etch-A-Sketch and I'll read them to the camera.

05:32:35.000 I don't know if you saw that.

05:32:36.000 And people are like, this is horrible.

05:32:38.000 It's like, it's preferable.

05:32:39.000 And maybe it's too far, but it's preferable to what we have now.

05:32:42.000 That's what makes Islam attractive because it's so conservative and traditional. 1.00

05:32:46.000 And here it's the opposite.

05:32:48.000 The women are fat. 1.00

05:32:49.000 They're obnoxious.

05:32:50.000 They swear.

05:32:50.000 They're rude.

05:32:51.000 They bring nothing to the table.

05:32:53.000 They don't want to put out.

05:32:54.000 And men tolerate it because men, it's a big symptom too.

05:32:59.000 Men weren't hugged enough by their mothers.

05:33:01.000 Now they all want a girlfriend, not even to fuck them. 1.00

05:33:04.000 Because, like, people say, oh, they say about me, oh, you're Catholic, you're very, like, chaste and everything.

05:33:10.000 It's like, what separates me from other guys is so many guys I know, it's not even about taking down chicks and having sex with them out of lust, which is immoral, but at least it represents a will.

05:33:21.000 They want to talk to them over text.

05:33:24.000 They want to cuddle.

05:33:24.000 They want to watch Disney movies.

05:33:26.000 They want to Snapchat them and just spend all day fucking talking.

05:33:30.000 And that's what it is for them.

05:33:32.000 And that's like...

05:33:33.000 Andrew, real quick, real quick, the guy you were just reacting to, his name is Dean, you know, the guy that... I'm not interested.

05:33:42.000 You know, but... I'm not interested, he's a little bit... But it's interesting because you talk about just talking to them, you're right.

05:33:50.000 And I can talk about my webcam studio.

05:33:53.000 I didn't have a single fucking black guy calling us and spending his life savings talking to a bitch. 1.00

05:33:58.000 Not one.

05:33:59.000 Just white dudes, bro. 0.80

05:34:01.000 Just endless white dudes complaining about their wives. 0.87

05:34:04.000 They didn't even want sex from the girls. 0.99

05:34:05.000 It was like a therapy session.

05:34:07.000 And they'd spend $100,000 a month just talking to some girl on the other side of the planet saying their wife doesn't love them.

05:34:13.000 It's fucking, it's ridiculous.

05:34:14.000 And it's a white phenomenon.

05:34:17.000 That's what's going on.

05:34:18.000 And we talk about, yeah, the world's become so easy now that women can go around with their delusions. 0.99

05:34:24.000 You see, it's not hard to see female delusion all around you. 0.97

05:34:27.000 You hear them say, oh, we don't need men.

05:34:30.000 What?

05:34:31.000 On what level of stupid do you even have to be operating on, saying you don't need men?

05:34:37.000 Not only is the whole world built by men, if men disappeared, you'd be done in a day.

05:34:42.000 Patriarchy has protected women from men. 0.58

05:34:45.000 Right?

05:34:45.000 And it's protected them from themselves.

05:34:48.000 It's interesting you said about how a lot of the white people are not based because they're scared of their girlfriends, etc.

05:34:54.000 Yeah, it takes a certain caliber of man to be able to say to a chick, shut up, you don't know anything, I'll do it. 1.00

05:34:59.000 Leave it to me.

05:35:00.000 And most of these, a lot of these dudes can't do that.

05:35:03.000 So they'll sit there and they'll sit for their chick and then they're not fixing anything because she doesn't know any better. 0.73

05:35:09.000 I'm in a, I guess you could say fortunate situation.

05:35:12.000 I say to the women around me, look, I love you.

05:35:15.000 I care about you.

05:35:16.000 The reason I take such good care of you is because I'm a fucking misogynist.

05:35:20.000 I'm such a terrible misogynist that I don't trust you to drive your own car, go anywhere without a security team, pay your own bills.

05:35:27.000 I don't trust you to do anything because you're fucking useless.

05:35:29.000 I'll do it.

05:35:30.000 Everything.

05:35:31.000 I'll do everything for you.

05:35:32.000 I'm a nice man, but that makes me misogynistic.

05:35:35.000 But when they come along with their opinion, I'm like, you're not allowed an opinion.

05:35:37.000 You don't make the money.

05:35:39.000 You don't fix anything, you don't solve anything, and you don't know anything.

05:35:43.000 So keep your opinion, and please just do as I say, and let's have children.

05:35:47.000 But most men can't pull that move off anymore.

05:35:50.000 They used to be able to, but in the West they can't anymore.

05:35:53.000 And that is the absolute advantage that the Islamic world has over the Christian world. 1.00

05:35:57.000 Because there's a Muslim family, there's a Muslim man with a Muslim woman who will go to England, will move in, on benefits, free money from the government, and have nine kids. 0.97

05:36:08.000 Free money for the government.

05:36:08.000 I have nine children.

05:36:09.000 And a white woman will sit there and go, I don't want kids because we can't afford it. 1.00

05:36:12.000 I want this.

05:36:13.000 I want that.

05:36:15.000 Well, then it's just TikTok to the bottom.

05:36:17.000 That's how it's going to end.

05:36:18.000 So I don't think it's a debate as to whether it's going to happen.

05:36:21.000 It's certainly going to happen.

05:36:22.000 It's just, and I don't think there's a debate, any sensible person.

05:36:25.000 I don't think they have a debate as to how the world will be different.

05:36:29.000 Then the last debate is, will the world be better?

05:36:31.000 I don't know if the world would be better.

05:36:36.000 Then why is everyone flocking to countries built by white people? 0.85

05:36:40.000 I live with black guys and white guys, and we're the most racist house in the world, because it's funny. 1.00

05:36:45.000 It's hilarious.

05:36:46.000 And us black guys just make fun of the white guy every morning.

05:36:49.000 We're like, thanks for the society you built.

05:36:52.000 We just make fun of him.

05:36:54.000 And he has no reply, because it's true.

05:36:56.000 Like, you gave us society.

05:36:58.000 Thanks.

05:36:58.000 Great.

05:36:58.000 It's beautiful.

05:36:59.000 Cheers.

05:37:02.000 I really would like, although I refuse to talk that mincey little faggot, I'd be very interested to hear what can even be the counter to any of these pretty obvious observations. 1.00

05:37:14.000 Yeah, there is no counter.

05:37:15.000 It's math.

05:37:16.000 You know, they're coming in here and, uh, you know, he was saying some stuff about women.

05:37:20.000 We were debating about feminism and he said, he said, Oh yeah, you know, we, we got to look out for women and girls and women are smarter and all this kind of stuff.

05:37:28.000 And my favorite, I said, well, look, women can't lead because women aren't soldiers. 1.00

05:37:32.000 And being a soldier is kind of like the essence of being a King and those kinds of things.

05:37:35.000 Like you defend the country, then you have responsibility, then you have the privilege of power.

05:37:40.000 And it's like, My favorite is lately you're seeing all these non-white people are coming over here, like in New York. 1.00

05:37:46.000 And you'll see these TikToks where women are like, you know, follow me on my day in my life in New York. 1.00

05:37:50.000 And they're going and they're going to Orange Fitness and they're getting their smoothie.

05:37:54.000 And lately you hear stories about them just getting randomly attacked by homeless people.

05:37:59.000 And there's something so, you know, you hate to see it, but it's also delicious to see women who, you know, they think they have all this power. 1.00

05:38:05.000 They tell men, you ain't shit.

05:38:07.000 F you.

05:38:08.000 You got a small dig.

05:38:09.000 Oh, you're an incel.

05:38:10.000 You follow Andrew Tate?

05:38:11.000 Fuck you.

05:38:12.000 And they walk around proud because they know white men are never going to raise a hand to them.

05:38:16.000 white men are never gonna put them in their place, yell at them. 1.00

05:38:18.000 As they walk around down the city, homeless person just out of nowhere, boom,

05:38:23.000 and then they just like crumple.

05:38:25.000 The way they fall to the ground, it's graceless.

05:38:27.000 You know, like men kind of catch themselves, just like a latticism, they just go down.

05:38:32.000 And it's like, but they don't even, even then they don't see the problem.

05:38:35.000 It's like, you know, that wouldn't happen if you feared men.

05:38:39.000 But that's the natural dynamic is that women are constantly in reverence, 1.00

05:38:44.000 but necessarily also in fear of men because men are more powerful.

05:38:48.000 And when they lose that, then you get these ridiculous notions where it's like, we're going to bring in a billion immigrants, and we're going to give them a bunch of stuff, and they're just going to become liberal and they're as American as apple pie.

05:39:00.000 It's like you said, they're taking advantage.

05:39:02.000 They're coming here.

05:39:02.000 They're making more of themselves.

05:39:04.000 They fucking hate us.

05:39:05.000 And women are thinking, oh, you know, we're going to make a welcome basket and we're going to do this. 1.00

05:39:09.000 And then they go and rape everybody.

05:39:11.000 They go and rape and kill everybody.

05:39:13.000 And, you know, but that's the kind of foolishness when you're led by women. 1.00

05:39:16.000 But it starts with the individual.

05:39:19.000 A guy's got to be able to tell a woman to shut up, and I think a lot of men won't do that because they're either afraid of scarcity, they can't walk away from the table with the girlfriend, they're too infatuated and no longer practical, you know, people are too romantic, they fall in love, it's not about making babies, and on some level they view the woman as the mom, you know, the woman is this kind of, the dynamic is flipped.

05:39:42.000 Guys don't want to be like their dads.

05:39:44.000 They want to be like their mother's sons, but with their wife. 0.99

05:39:47.000 And it's a very sick dynamic.

05:39:49.000 It's this mommy thing going on and needs to fucking stop. 1.00

05:39:52.000 You're right.

05:39:53.000 Women have so little power that they rely on fictional men to give them power. 1.00

05:40:00.000 If there's a woman who's getting harassed by a man, she'll say, oh, I've got a boyfriend. 0.76

05:40:04.000 An imaginary man far away is more of a deterrent.

05:40:10.000 than her in the flesh.

05:40:13.000 She'll call her dad on a phone.

05:40:14.000 The guy on the phone on the other side of the country is more of a deterrent than her by herself.

05:40:21.000 That's how little power women actually have. 1.00

05:40:24.000 And any power they wield is enforced by men.

05:40:27.000 These women who run all their mouths, if you touch them, they call a bunch of men to come and arrest you. 1.00

05:40:31.000 It's all masculine. 1.00

05:40:34.000 But the white people have just handed all their power over to women. 1.00

05:40:38.000 And when I say women as well, I want to make something clear.

05:40:40.000 I'm not just talking because we don't want to judge.

05:40:43.000 We don't want to assume people's genders, right? 0.73

05:40:46.000 We're all intents and purposes.

05:40:48.000 That little loser who's just on the show is a chick. 1.00

05:40:51.000 To me, that's a girl.

05:40:52.000 You're a girl.

05:40:53.000 I'm a man.

05:40:54.000 Why?

05:40:55.000 Name one masculine thing about you.

05:40:57.000 You're crying and begging for your race to be destroyed. 1.00

05:40:59.000 You're begging to get fucked in the ass. 0.97

05:41:01.000 Like, what, what, name a single masculine, you're a, you're a chick. 1.00

05:41:04.000 You're a girl.

05:41:05.000 Talking to him is like talking to a girl. 0.95

05:41:07.000 He even looks like a fucking girl. 0.81

05:41:10.000 I also mean a whole bunch of males, especially these white males, all these liberals.

05:41:14.000 You're all girls. 1.00

05:41:15.000 The current election is girls versus boys.

05:41:18.000 That's the current election.

05:41:19.000 Men versus women. 0.99

05:41:20.000 That's the election.

05:41:22.000 Dudes for Kamala.

05:41:23.000 Get an AIDS test.

05:41:24.000 You're a faggot. 1.00

05:41:25.000 You're basically a chick. 1.00

05:41:27.000 You're all trans. 1.00

05:41:28.000 All of you.

05:41:29.000 That's the current conversation.

05:41:30.000 You have the masculine against the feminine.

05:41:33.000 That's all it is.

05:41:34.000 In the West, we're now run by the feminine. 1.00

05:41:37.000 It's a matriarchy head to toe. 1.00

05:41:38.000 It's a complete feminine mindset. 1.00

05:41:41.000 And we're going to see, but I have a suspicion, that matriarchal societies cannot out-compete patriarchal societies, which is why all of history was patriarchal.

05:41:50.000 Because the matriarchal ones lost. 1.00

05:41:53.000 And now we have a matriarchal society, the West, which is going to be competing against the patriarchal societies. 1.00

05:41:57.000 And this is what's going to happen.

05:41:58.000 This is why Islam is going to conquer the world. 1.00

05:42:01.000 This is why white people are gonna go extinct. 0.93

05:42:03.000 This is all just obvious.

05:42:05.000 And there's little dipshits, like that girl, who want to sit here and, I don't know, I guess their cope is that it's okay and it's a good thing.

05:42:12.000 Because I don't think they can deny it, so I guess their cope is, but that's good!

05:42:18.000 Because maybe they assume... I kind of feel like saying to him, brother, I'm brown enough to know how we look at little white boys like you.

05:42:26.000 You don't want us in charge.

05:42:29.000 You don't want us in charge.

05:42:31.000 You're not gonna last and you're not gonna like it.

05:42:34.000 You don't want us in charge.

05:42:36.000 I'm telling you from the other side.

05:42:39.000 I could say that to him and his reply to me would be, no, I know how brown people think more than you and they love me.

05:42:47.000 But we don't want to fuck you. 0.96

05:42:48.000 We don't want to fuck you. 0.99

05:42:49.000 So you don't, you're just in our way to build us something or fuck off.

05:42:54.000 The future's sure.

05:42:58.000 Yeah, there's no example of a matriarchal society working. 1.00

05:43:01.000 That's why the birth rate, even though a place like Japan is... Bless. 0.97

05:43:05.000 At least a place like Japan is very beautiful and it's good to go.

05:43:08.000 The reason that the birth rate is declining is because the guys are addicted to porn and because a lot of them live by feminist ideals.

05:43:15.000 And you see this dichotomy now in America, where there's a funny video of a Kamala Harris rally, and the guy's pretending to be gay, interviewing the girls, and he's asking the girls about who she's attracted to, and she has to silently admit that she's attracted to the evil Republican guys.

05:43:30.000 She's been told that conservative men are so evil for so long, but she's not attracted to any of the liberal people.

05:43:37.000 She'll agree with the liberal person.

05:43:38.000 She'll agree with the one who wants to get their race evaporated, but at the same time, she's still always going to be naturally attracted to traditionally conservative values.

05:43:51.000 Yeah, I think the, um, it's kind of interesting because I don't want to be a doomer either, but then I'm kind of sitting here thinking, maybe I'm just, maybe I'm begging to be entertained.

05:44:04.000 You know, I've done it all.

05:44:06.000 Private Jets, Bugattis, Jail, Cockroach.

05:44:09.000 I've done it.

05:44:11.000 I'm kind of like, as this spirals on, I'm kind of enjoying the show.

05:44:16.000 You know, that's what I feel like.

05:44:19.000 I'm a Trump fan because I'm a man.

05:44:22.000 You have to support Trump because you're a fucking man.

05:44:24.000 If you don't support Trump, you're gay. 0.83

05:44:26.000 But it's kind of like, someone said to me the other day, what would you do if Kamala won?

05:44:29.000 I was like, laugh?

05:44:32.000 Oops.

05:44:33.000 Let's see what she does when her own fans want her to stop Israel from blowing Gaza to fuck. 1.00

05:44:40.000 Let's enjoy the show!

05:44:41.000 Like, I don't know.

05:44:43.000 Maybe I'm just at the point now where it's just like, I just want to watch it all burn.

05:44:46.000 Not because I'm a bad person, but because it's kind of funny, I guess.

05:44:51.000 But yeah, when I hear these liberal dipshits, I just think, okay, so he's the person who's destroying everything, people like him.

05:44:58.000 He's going to end up subjugated and enslaved.

05:45:00.000 I'm not.

05:45:01.000 So ha ha ha.

05:45:03.000 I guess I'm kind of reaching that stage now.

05:45:05.000 I would love, because I think it'd be actually fantastic for the culture.

05:45:10.000 I'd love for Trump to win because the reason they hate Trump, the reason they actually hate Trump is because he's a man.

05:45:15.000 That's it!

05:45:16.000 And when I say a man, I mean an actual man.

05:45:19.000 They don't give a shit about anything they pretend they give a shit about.

05:45:21.000 It's literally just because he's a man.

05:45:23.000 They like the men that are women. 0.95

05:45:25.000 They go, no, we don't hate men.

05:45:26.000 We like this man.

05:45:28.000 That dude's a fucking homo. 1.00

05:45:29.000 That dude's a chick. 1.00

05:45:30.000 There's nothing masculine about him at all.

05:45:33.000 But if you're remotely male, they can't fucking stand you.

05:45:36.000 I know that from personal experience.

05:45:38.000 There's no way, there is no way I would have gone world viral to the point where they had to lock me up for saying women couldn't drive.

05:45:46.000 Unless I was big and strong and rich and tall and charismatic.

05:45:51.000 If I was a little fucking loser and said it, they wouldn't have cared.

05:45:54.000 They just hate me because I'm a dude.

05:45:55.000 I'm a man.

05:45:56.000 And all the youth were like, I want to be a man like Andrew.

05:45:58.000 And they're like, oh shit.

05:46:00.000 They're growing balls. 0.56

05:46:02.000 Stop them quickly.

05:46:03.000 That's all it is.

05:46:04.000 They hate Trump because he's a man.

05:46:06.000 It doesn't matter what he says.

05:46:07.000 In fact, everything he's been saying recently isn't even remotely controversial or right wing.

05:46:13.000 So why the fuck do they still hate this guy?

05:46:15.000 Because he's a man.

05:46:17.000 They hate men because men are the defenders.

05:46:21.000 Men are the warriors.

05:46:22.000 Men are the ones who are in the way. 0.96

05:46:24.000 And they want to get rid of men because men are the ones who are always going to stand up and try and prevent the slavery.

05:46:28.000 Men are the ones who are going to resist enslavement.

05:46:30.000 And they want to make slaves of us all.

05:46:32.000 They have to get rid of all the men. 0.82

05:46:34.000 It's very simple.

05:46:35.000 Women are easy to fucking scare. 1.00

05:46:37.000 That's why they want women. 1.00

05:46:38.000 And when I say women, I mean females plus that dude like we did. 0.99

05:46:41.000 Women. 0.81

05:46:42.000 They're easy to scare.

05:46:43.000 They're cowards.

05:46:44.000 You just come along, say, put on the mask.

05:46:46.000 They shit their pants.

05:46:48.000 They do whatever the fuck they're told.

05:46:50.000 You have to be ready to die for something to resist enslavement.

05:46:53.000 And women never are. 1.00

05:46:55.000 They're not ready to die for fucking anything.

05:46:57.000 They're ready to just listen.

05:46:59.000 And that's the problem, right?

05:47:01.000 So we have this huge, in the West, the problem we have now is you have all the females and liberals, and there's two competing power structures. 1.00

05:47:08.000 There's the media matrix machine.

05:47:10.000 There's the last few men.

05:47:12.000 And the last few men are under endless attack by lawfare.

05:47:16.000 I don't want to put myself, I can say me, I could say Trump.

05:47:18.000 I don't, I'm not trying to brag.

05:47:19.000 I'm saying if you, if you project a masculine enough image, they will do anything to fucking lock you up.

05:47:25.000 Because they want all of the females obeying the Matrix. 1.00

05:47:28.000 And the Matrix is saying, just comply.

05:47:31.000 It'll be okay.

05:47:33.000 Just comply.

05:47:34.000 And that's the bottom line of what's happening here.

05:47:38.000 And they hate the white man, especially, because the white man's very organized.

05:47:43.000 Extremely organized.

05:47:44.000 They're a very organized type of people, white people.

05:47:48.000 They get shit done.

05:47:48.000 They're very organized.

05:47:49.000 And also, it's kind of amazing to me, it's interesting, because I just look at things, right?

05:47:55.000 And I think, isn't court—obviously this is topical to me—but isn't court amazing?

05:48:02.000 I think about two white guys will crash a car. 0.64

05:48:05.000 They'll say, see you in court, buddy!

05:48:08.000 I'm suing you, buster! 0.98

05:48:10.000 And they'll go to court, and they'll stand there to some judge who wasn't even there.

05:48:13.000 And they'll say, I've got this.

05:48:15.000 And they'll spend nine months of time, energy, money, effort.

05:48:19.000 I've got this photo.

05:48:21.000 Here's the CCTV.

05:48:22.000 It was their fault.

05:48:22.000 And someone will lose and just take the L. I lost in court.

05:48:28.000 Darn it.

05:48:28.000 Lost a million dollars.

05:48:29.000 Lost in court.

05:48:31.000 Darn it.

05:48:32.000 Did you just say that there's no other reason to hate not vote for Donald Trump apart from

05:48:38.000 the fact that he's a man?

05:48:40.000 Like maybe I don't support Donald Trump because he's a rapist.

05:48:43.000 Maybe I don't.

05:48:44.000 Who put this on?

05:48:45.000 Was it Aiden?

05:48:46.000 It was Nick Fuentes.

05:48:47.000 I'm sitting right here.

05:48:48.000 I don't support him, man.

05:48:49.000 Maybe I don't support Donald Trump because he's a sexualized little girl.

05:48:56.000 I'm trying to make a point.

05:48:57.000 If you want to do a debate with the nerd, you can do it.

05:49:00.000 You guys can enjoy it.

05:49:01.000 But I'd rather lose the nerd and just talk knowing I'm right.

05:49:04.000 It's better.

05:49:05.000 So are we going to keep him here or not?

05:49:07.000 So you're a fan of Echo Chamber?

05:49:07.000 There's no chicks allowed at this table.

05:49:10.000 So you're a fan of Echo Chamber?

05:49:11.000 It's the He-Man Club. 0.98

05:49:13.000 Okay, so I have a penis with XY chromosomes, so a man is something other than a penis with XY chromosomes?

05:49:17.000 What do you want to do?

05:49:20.000 Thanks.

05:49:20.000 See ya, loser!

05:49:21.000 Anyway... Loser.

05:49:21.000 to be a rather time.

05:49:22.000 Thanks.

05:49:23.000 See you loser.

05:49:25.000 Anyway, loser.

05:49:28.000 I lost my point now, but I was right.

05:49:33.000 So it's fine.

05:49:34.000 Oh yeah, court.

05:49:35.000 Court.

05:49:36.000 Isn't court amazing?

05:49:37.000 Like, do you think that shit happens in a lot of the world?

05:49:41.000 Imagine you crash your car in Rwanda. 1.00

05:49:43.000 You think they're gonna go, alright, see you in court, buddy.

05:49:46.000 Nine months, legal evidence, and someone's just gonna take that.

05:49:49.000 No, who has a machete in the car?

05:49:51.000 Because that's, that's the guy who was right.

05:49:54.000 That's how most of the world actually works.

05:49:57.000 The white man is actually very intriguing to me.

05:50:00.000 I watch it with intrigue when I see them go, ah, I lost in court.

05:50:03.000 Oh, well.

05:50:04.000 That's actually quite remarkable.

05:50:06.000 And it's a beautiful thing.

05:50:07.000 It's built a beautiful society.

05:50:08.000 I don't think white people realize how rare that is.

05:50:12.000 How rare that is.

05:50:14.000 That is so rare amongst most races.

05:50:17.000 Go to anywhere in Latin America, go to most of these countries, they'd be like, what the fuck?

05:50:21.000 I ain't taking that.

05:50:22.000 No.

05:50:23.000 And then what's the answer to things?

05:50:24.000 Well, the answer is violence.

05:50:26.000 White people have lost their propensity to violence because everything in the world is violence. 0.83

05:50:32.000 You're just putting layers of garbage on top to try and prevent the violence, which is fine because that keeps society functioning, but it is the bottom line of all things.

05:50:41.000 So if you're going to have people who don't see the layers and they're not interested in, and they just want to go straight to the quick solution, then you're not competitive anymore.

05:50:50.000 How can you compete against people who skip all the garbage and go straight to violence?

05:50:54.000 You can't.

05:50:55.000 So this is perhaps an argument for desegregation of societies. 0.89

05:50:59.000 It's not being racist.

05:51:00.000 It's not being a bad person.

05:51:01.000 It's just saying, we operate one way.

05:51:03.000 We play chess.

05:51:04.000 They play checkers.

05:51:05.000 They play go.

05:51:06.000 They play fucking Scrabble.

05:51:08.000 So let's all play our game.

05:51:09.000 Because if you allow chess pieces on the go board, it's all fucked.

05:51:14.000 And this is what we have now with huge backlogs in the legal system and fucking everything's a mess.

05:51:19.000 Yeah, because the system wasn't meant to deal with this influx of shit.

05:51:23.000 How can, like with the asylum problem and the open border, if your solution is we're going to arrest them, put them in jail and asylum claims, take them to court, it's over. 0.90

05:51:33.000 That takes forever.

05:51:34.000 It's over.

05:51:34.000 That's not going to work.

05:51:36.000 It's never going to fix anything.

05:51:39.000 You could do a Poland, build a wall and put guys with guns on the wall. 1.00

05:51:42.000 But if you're going to let them in in any regard, like England does, because I talk about England, I don't know about America, but in England they turn up on the boats and then we say, okay, we're going to process your asylum claim. 0.79

05:51:51.000 That's game over.

05:51:52.000 Game over.

05:51:53.000 Because the people who are coming in on the boat don't give a fuck whether you say yes or no, because they don't believe in court.

05:51:58.000 So what's the point?

05:52:00.000 I mean, this is so obvious to me to see.

05:52:03.000 I don't know how people find this in some way mind-breaking or controversial to say.

05:52:11.000 And you can be neutered by your morality.

05:52:15.000 The problem with the white man is they're not savage enough.

05:52:17.000 They're not savage enough when it comes to having children.

05:52:20.000 They're not savage enough when it comes to reproducing.

05:52:22.000 They're not savage enough protecting their lands, because that was the bottom line of all humanity, protect your lands, protect your women. 0.97

05:52:27.000 They're not doing that.

05:52:29.000 Little cucks like that girl think that debating on the internet is going to somehow fix the world. 1.00

05:52:33.000 Bro, shut the fuck up. 1.00

05:52:35.000 Piss off.

05:52:37.000 Because nothing you say matters because your race is going to be extinct soon because of little losers like you. 0.97

05:52:42.000 So no one gives a shit what you think.

05:52:43.000 You're a dipshit.

05:52:44.000 If you think owning the conservatives is somehow going to make the liberals not see you as a little cracker, you're wrong.

05:52:53.000 Walk through Compton and talk about how you own the Trump supporters.

05:52:56.000 Go on!

05:52:57.000 Go on, bro.

05:52:58.000 Go teach them a lesson.

05:53:00.000 Go say, no, did you see me on the podcast?

05:53:04.000 Fuck you.

05:53:05.000 You're a loser.

05:53:06.000 So like, the world's collapsing.

05:53:09.000 The white man's world's collapsing.

05:53:10.000 It's all women's fault. 1.00

05:53:12.000 This will probably land me in jail.

05:53:14.000 And I'm just watching the show.

05:53:16.000 I don't know how any of this is even controversial anymore.

05:53:18.000 It's pretty fucking obvious.

05:53:21.000 Jake, what's going on, man?

05:53:23.000 Good, good.

05:53:24.000 Hey Jake, do you remember Andrew?

05:53:25.000 Andrew, remember Jake?

05:53:27.000 Hey Jake, this is Nick Fuentes.

05:53:29.000 Nick, this is Jake.

05:53:31.000 Hey Jake, what's up?

05:53:33.000 Hey, it's Fuentes.

05:53:36.000 Jake, who did you think won the debate?

05:53:37.000 Dean or Nick Fuentes?

05:53:39.000 Fuentes.

05:53:41.000 Fuentes won, yeah.

05:53:42.000 That's good.

05:53:42.000 Yeah, facts.

05:53:46.000 Jake, how big is your dick?

05:53:48.000 Okay.

05:53:49.000 Well, you guys know that I was too cool to come out.

05:53:52.000 I agree.

05:53:53.000 I thought I could get Tate and Nick to smile at that one.

05:53:59.000 That's good.

05:54:01.000 You know, life will prove that Nick won.

05:54:03.000 Like, you can only deny reality for so long.

05:54:07.000 I don't know how long the people are going to try and just hard cope and endlessly deny reality until it... I guess the problem is cowardice, right?

05:54:15.000 If you deny the easiest way to fix a problem is pretend it doesn't exist.

05:54:19.000 That's how you fix a problem.

05:54:21.000 We have a problem.

05:54:22.000 No, we don't.

05:54:24.000 Solved, right?

05:54:26.000 Why are you talking?

05:54:27.000 Why are you risking being called racist?

05:54:29.000 Why are you talking about all these complicated socioeconomic issues?

05:54:32.000 Why?

05:54:32.000 You can just pretend there's no problem.

05:54:35.000 That's what people do.

05:54:36.000 Yeah.

05:54:37.000 Yeah.

05:54:38.000 Well, everything's going to get worse.

05:54:41.000 It already is.

05:54:42.000 Everything already sucks.

05:54:44.000 America's a dump.

05:54:45.000 Every city is a shithole and a dump and doesn't work.

05:54:49.000 Everything's getting worse everywhere.

05:54:50.000 Service is getting worse.

05:54:51.000 Everything's dirtier.

05:54:52.000 Everything's more chaotic.

05:54:53.000 They're canceling flights.

05:54:54.000 There's like shortages of stuff.

05:54:56.000 People are rude.

05:54:58.000 And, you know, it's like it is a level of white autism. 0.80

05:55:02.000 You know, like the new villain now in every TV show and movie is like a white autist on 4chan. 0.99

05:55:07.000 You know, like the Batman movies about that.

05:55:10.000 All the movies are about that.

05:55:11.000 It's like a Ted Kaczynski.

05:55:13.000 Because you're right, white people are methodical, white people are into math, they're hobbyists and things like that. 0.66

05:55:19.000 And the prospect that those people are out there, it speaks to the idea of how they want to create a slave class.

05:55:25.000 You can have a government that's totally corrupt and selling out and decadent and so on, but also have white autists out there that are upset about the ecology being destroyed. 0.72

05:55:36.000 Because then they make a bunch of mail bombs and start killing everybody and release a manifesto.

05:55:40.000 You know, or then they go on 4chan and get Trump elected with memes or whatever.

05:55:43.000 And it really is like an anti-white male thing because they recognize that white males uniquely have that particular aptitude, even with blacks. 0.57

05:55:52.000 Blacks are brought in and people say, well, you know, but they're very high testosterone. 0.99

05:55:56.000 And it's true. 0.56

05:55:56.000 They riot and they burn stuff down, but that's like built in. 0.56

05:56:01.000 Oh, like, like Jake.

05:56:02.000 Well, Jake, you're not burning stuff down.

05:56:04.000 You're not burning stuff down.

05:56:05.000 You're not, you're not with BLM.

05:56:08.000 But they do that, and that's like built into the cost.

05:56:11.000 You know, like the banks, Target, all the, they built into the cost, shoplifting, burning, all that kind of stuff.

05:56:17.000 And they get it out of their system every now and again, and then it resets.

05:56:21.000 But those people aren't reading the papers, and they don't read between the lines, and they don't know about the corruption scandals.

05:56:25.000 That's why in like Brazil and Africa, you have people They're in power for like a hundred years and they're embezzling all the money.

05:56:32.000 And they're like, you know, like in Haiti.

05:56:34.000 That's what happened in Haiti.

05:56:35.000 They had a deal with Venezuela.

05:56:37.000 They got free oil in exchange for, they said they spend the money on social programs.

05:56:41.000 Government just stole all the money that people didn't even notice.

05:56:44.000 There's no journalist there.

05:56:45.000 There's no one getting the scoop.

05:56:47.000 And, you know, so they want basically no supervision and they know that, uh, you know, you get rid of the white hobbyist, that white genius, there's going to be no threat to their power at all.

05:56:58.000 That's really the game.

05:56:59.000 It's too bad the media reflects it identically.

05:57:02.000 If you see it, for example, Joker is one of your favorite movies, Nick.

05:57:05.000 Joker 2 ended up becoming a musical with Lady Gaga because white incel frog people... Wait, wait, wait. 1.00

05:57:11.000 Start over.

05:57:11.000 Wait, Joker 2's ass?

05:57:13.000 Because I haven't seen it yet.

05:57:14.000 Is it good?

05:57:15.000 Well, it's out.

05:57:15.000 They turned it into a musical because Joker 1 ended up becoming a symbol for the white incel, the disenfranchised white incel.

05:57:22.000 Every time there's a symbol in the media that represents that silent majority that got Trump elected, Breaking Bad's a great example.

05:57:28.000 You can see a white guy rising up, shaving his head, reclaiming his masculinity, and then the last season, the enemy ends up becoming, instead of the brown Venezuelan, it's a neo-Nazi.

05:57:38.000 It's the symbol of white supremacy because they don't want whites to have any sort of representation.

05:57:44.000 You nailed it when you said masculinity.

05:57:48.000 That's true.

05:57:48.000 The British government spends billions of dollars a year trying to remove me from schools.

05:57:53.000 What did I say?

05:57:54.000 What color is your brigade?

05:57:55.000 I'm the problem, not the knife crime, not the drugs.

05:57:57.000 No, not the kids getting stabbed to death.

05:57:59.000 Not the rappers that sing about killing and murdering.

05:58:02.000 No, just me because I said, you know, stand up and be a man and go to the gym.

05:58:06.000 Bro, it's a clown world.

05:58:08.000 Masculinity. 0.51

05:58:08.000 He's under massive attack because masculinity is in the way. 0.51

05:58:10.000 I think Nick has nailed it with the autistic white man thing. 0.92

05:58:14.000 The white man's organized.

05:58:15.000 He's a formidable foe.

05:58:17.000 He's organized.

05:58:19.000 He gets his shit right.

05:58:19.000 He's on time.

05:58:21.000 You know, BLM is great, but if it's before 9am, they're, you know, they're tired.

05:58:26.000 You know, this is what it is!

05:58:29.000 And they finna get them some Jordans, they get distracted by a Nike store, whatever.

05:58:35.000 Build some new shoes, get the chinks to make new shoes, and it's fine. 1.00

05:58:38.000 The white man's organized, and that's what they fear.

05:58:41.000 They fear a genuine organized resistance.

05:58:45.000 And it's kind of remarkable that they've managed, to be fair to them, it's kind of remarkable they've managed to instill so much hatred inside the white population that they're gonna allow their women to be raped. 0.52

05:58:55.000 Let me tell you all a story.

05:58:59.000 I was attacked in Moldova.

05:59:02.000 I was walking in Moldova, in Chisinau, Moldova, about seven or eight years ago.

05:59:06.000 My brother and I were walking, and we had three Russian girls with us.

05:59:10.000 And these four Russian men started screaming at us in Russian.

05:59:15.000 And I don't know what they said.

05:59:16.000 And the girls replied to the guys in Russian and started having some little kind of argument on the street. 0.94

05:59:19.000 And I told the girls, shut up. 1.00

05:59:21.000 I hate when girls run their mouth when the men have to fight. 1.00

05:59:23.000 So I said, shut up.

05:59:25.000 Anyway, I was like, what are they saying?

05:59:26.000 And the girl said, they're calling us whores.

05:59:28.000 They're calling us whores.

05:59:29.000 And I was like, anyway, these four dudes came over and we're like, where are you from?

05:59:35.000 Where are you from?

05:59:35.000 And I was like, I live in Romania.

05:59:37.000 It's like, where are you from?

05:59:38.000 Where are you from?

05:59:39.000 And as soon as they got close, they swung.

05:59:41.000 And when they started attacking my brother and I, like out of nowhere, like 25 dudes just appeared out of nowhere.

05:59:48.000 Long story short, we managed to block a few punches.

05:59:50.000 We moved, it was both, both of us.

05:59:51.000 And we saw all 25 of them.

05:59:52.000 We backed up.

05:59:53.000 We said, girls, let's go.

05:59:54.000 We jumped in a taxi.

05:59:56.000 They attacked us because they knew that we were only there for girls.

06:00:00.000 And they knew the girls were only with us for money. 1.00

06:00:02.000 And they thought, why the fuck are they in Moldova?

06:00:05.000 Nobody comes to Moldova.

06:00:06.000 Fuck them.

06:00:07.000 And I tried to explain to the girls that I respected those guys.

06:00:11.000 The girls were like, I'm so sorry.

06:00:12.000 I'm so sorry.

06:00:12.000 I was like, I get it.

06:00:13.000 She goes, what do you mean you get it?

06:00:14.000 They just attacked you.

06:00:15.000 I was like...

06:00:16.000 I get it.

06:00:17.000 I'm not even mad about it.

06:00:19.000 I'm bleeding.

06:00:21.000 I totally understand.

06:00:23.000 I could have died then and there, but I have to be mad enough to admit I understood them.

06:00:27.000 Because they knew what we were there for.

06:00:29.000 Their only resource.

06:00:30.000 They knew women don't give a fuck about nationality and they're just chasing money. 1.00

06:00:34.000 So they were nationalistic.

06:00:38.000 And they were white people.

06:00:40.000 Moldova, Russia, a few countries have it left.

06:00:43.000 But the Western white man just seems to be prepared to just roll over and die.

06:00:48.000 It's remarkable.

06:00:51.000 Hey, real quick.

06:00:52.000 Andrew and Nick, this is my other buddy, Kevin.

06:00:54.000 Kevin, go ahead and unmute.

06:00:57.000 What's up, Kevin?

06:00:58.000 It was good to meet you.

06:00:59.000 Hey.

06:00:59.000 Kevin.

06:01:03.000 Hey, Kev.

06:01:04.000 SneakerCon's gonna be fun this weekend.

06:01:06.000 Um, what's it called?

06:01:07.000 Kevin, this is Andrew.

06:01:09.000 Um, Kevin.

06:01:10.000 Hi.

06:01:11.000 And then, Kevin, this is Nick.

06:01:12.000 And then you know Jake.

06:01:14.000 Yeah.

06:01:15.000 Hi.

06:01:16.000 Kevin is my news.

06:01:21.000 Does Kevin talk?

06:01:23.000 Yeah.

06:01:25.000 Kevin.

06:01:26.000 Yeah.

06:01:28.000 Andrew's talking to you.

06:01:29.000 Yeah, I'm here.

06:01:30.000 Yeah.

06:01:31.000 It's good, Jake.

06:01:33.000 Yeah.

06:01:34.000 You good?

06:01:34.000 Where are you American?

06:01:35.000 You live in America?

06:01:37.000 Yeah.

06:01:37.000 And I'm in Canada.

06:01:39.000 Oh, I'm lucky, bro.

06:01:41.000 I'm lucky.

06:01:41.000 Sorry about that.

06:01:43.000 Why is he unlucky?

06:01:46.000 Last time I was in Canada, Drake, like, green-lighted me.

06:01:49.000 I don't even know what the fuck that means.

06:01:51.000 I get pissed.

06:01:54.000 What?

06:01:55.000 Drake landed from Canada.

06:01:56.000 Oh, yeah.

06:01:57.000 Yeah, he pressed not come over here.

06:01:59.000 But Nick, you've been live for about five hours.

06:02:01.000 You're not tired.

06:02:02.000 Is that your longest stream, Nick?

06:02:04.000 No, I've done longer, but when I was doing the RNC, it was like eight hours a day.

06:02:09.000 But yeah, I mean, I did a show.

06:02:11.000 I did the debate.

06:02:12.000 Now it's the post-debate recap.

06:02:14.000 It's been a long stream, but it's been fun.

06:02:17.000 It's been, I don't know, is this the kind of content you normally do?

06:02:20.000 I feel like it's pretty political.

06:02:22.000 No, not really, but I see Jake and Kevin, and I guess I'm here as well to try to pick up the political thing.

06:02:27.000 His audience wants him to mostly steer away from political stuff, but it's more interesting to him.

06:02:32.000 As you get older, as you get older, you want to... You want to dive in.

06:02:36.000 This is the stuff that you care about.

06:02:37.000 It's hard to just do... Yeah, I actually do like it more.

06:02:40.000 Yeah, I can tell that it actually interests him.

06:02:42.000 And even though he's always said positive things about you, Nick, off camera too, he's like, he finds you very funny and he likes, obviously he doesn't agree with much of the stuff, especially like when you start talking about certain events in the past, he'll start screaming.

06:02:54.000 But other than that, the rhetoric is appreciated.

06:02:57.000 Yeah, well, it's fun.

06:02:59.000 You know, I mean, you don't have to agree with everything to just, I just like to hear people talk.

06:03:04.000 I like to hear people with ideas and, you know, it's fun to just, Talk about stuff that matters.

06:03:08.000 I feel like so much of the content is so mindless.

06:03:12.000 You know, I mean, when they started banning, they started banning like prank videos, conspiracies, and it's like, there was a period on YouTube where all you had was slime tutorials.

06:03:21.000 You know, like that was the, it's just like the most mindless makeup tutorials, slime tutorials, commercials.

06:03:27.000 And I feel like people like fighting, people like politics, people like that kind of stuff.

06:03:32.000 So, you know, so I enjoy it, but.

06:03:35.000 Yeah, that's the content game.

06:03:37.000 It's a couple people at the top profiting.

06:03:39.000 This panel here is so funny because Aiden's barely said a word, and he's getting a black guy, a Chinese guy, a mixed guy, a white guy, and also another mixed guy to just dance and make the money for him. 0.78

06:03:51.000 It looks like Israel versus the world right now. 0.98

06:03:55.000 You really gotta do that?

06:03:57.000 Come on.

06:03:57.000 It's all love, love, King.

06:04:03.000 I don't think this panel's been nearly toxic enough.

06:04:05.000 There's going to be a little bit of MSM, but I don't think I'm going to get in that much trouble for this.

06:04:09.000 I feel like I need to up the game.

06:04:10.000 You know?

06:04:12.000 This has been easy.

06:04:14.000 We just said the easy shit.

06:04:16.000 You know one of the things I love?

06:04:19.000 Let me be toxic, because I'm called the most toxically masculine man in the world.

06:04:22.000 It's great.

06:04:24.000 You know what's super cool about being toxically masculine?

06:04:27.000 Never explaining myself to anyone ever.

06:04:31.000 Like, sometimes I just say things like, well, where'd you come up with that?

06:04:35.000 What data do you have?

06:04:36.000 My balls.

06:04:38.000 I just made it up.

06:04:39.000 Women can't drive. 1.00

06:04:41.000 Well, I have the insurance data that says... Because you're gay. 0.97

06:04:45.000 You look at data because you're gay. 1.00

06:04:46.000 I decided...

06:04:49.000 So that's how it is.

06:04:51.000 I just decide things.

06:04:53.000 And they're true.

06:04:54.000 And in my house, they're true.

06:04:56.000 I can just walk around.

06:04:56.000 I just decided.

06:04:58.000 You should have seen the way.

06:04:59.000 I actually spoke to Tristan about this the other day.

06:05:01.000 I said, how did we get COVID so right?

06:05:03.000 Because there's nobody on the internet who can claim to get COVID better than us.

06:05:07.000 Nobody.

06:05:08.000 We had it on day one, the very first day we were already rebelling and going to Sweden, living in Sweden because it was open.

06:05:15.000 We moved country.

06:05:16.000 And I said, I said, how did we get that so right?

06:05:18.000 Cause we didn't know, but we kind of just, we were on day one of COVID when everyone was dying in Italy and people were dying in China and everyone was panicking.

06:05:27.000 Me and Tristan just went, nah, we just, we just made it up.

06:05:31.000 We just decided, fuck the news, fuck the, no, no.

06:05:37.000 I do that to this day.

06:05:38.000 I said to my, one of my girlfriends, my women can't drive. 1.00

06:05:41.000 Why do you say that?

06:05:42.000 Have you ever seen women crash? 1.00

06:05:43.000 A few.

06:05:44.000 Have you seen Mencrash?

06:05:45.000 Yeah, actually.

06:05:46.000 So why do you say women can't drive? 1.00

06:05:47.000 I just... I've decided.

06:05:49.000 I don't need evidence.

06:05:51.000 I don't need proof.

06:05:52.000 You can pull as many theories out of your ass as you want.

06:05:56.000 I've decided.

06:05:58.000 And that's why I don't want to debate with that little faggot, because he's gonna come and say, well, actually, actually, I've decided. 1.00

06:06:05.000 And you're a little bitch. 1.00

06:06:07.000 So I don't care what you say, and I don't care what study you have.

06:06:10.000 I've already decided, and I'm right.

06:06:14.000 So shut the fuck up. 1.00

06:06:15.000 That's the ultimate male- The ultimate masculine perspective is, I said so.

06:06:21.000 Think about it.

06:06:22.000 Mom, do I have to clean my room?

06:06:25.000 Yeah, you have to clean your room.

06:06:26.000 You can't live in a messy room.

06:06:28.000 Dad, do I have to clean my room?

06:06:30.000 Yes.

06:06:31.000 Why?

06:06:31.000 Because I fucking said so.

06:06:34.000 Yes, sir.

06:06:35.000 Don't want to die today.

06:06:36.000 Better clean my room.

06:06:37.000 That's how I was raised.

06:06:39.000 It was all I said so.

06:06:40.000 That's how I run my children.

06:06:42.000 That's how I run my household now.

06:06:45.000 I said so.

06:06:46.000 I don't negotiate with kids.

06:06:48.000 I see white people.

06:06:49.000 We don't talk about white people.

06:06:51.000 White people are the worst parents ever. 1.00

06:06:53.000 They're negotiating with children.

06:06:55.000 You see them.

06:06:56.000 If you're good today, Timmy, we'll give you some candy.

06:06:59.000 What the fuck?

06:06:59.000 You're doing a business?

06:07:00.000 Are you a fucking toddler?

06:07:02.000 If I wasn't good, I got beaten so bad.

06:07:05.000 Bro, black parents no different. 0.99

06:07:07.000 What do you mean, candy?

06:07:08.000 There's no candy!

06:07:10.000 There's only violence!

06:07:12.000 There's none of these layers.

06:07:13.000 There's no core.

06:07:14.000 There's none of this.

06:07:15.000 It's just, you get your ass whooped. 0.51

06:07:17.000 Right?

06:07:18.000 Why do people even do this with children?

06:07:21.000 I just say because I said so for everything.

06:07:24.000 My girls say to me, is Kamala bad?

06:07:27.000 Yeah.

06:07:28.000 Really?

06:07:28.000 Yeah, she's evil.

06:07:29.000 She's going to destroy the world. 1.00

06:07:30.000 Why?

06:07:30.000 I said so.

06:07:32.000 No.

06:07:33.000 Will you explain?

06:07:34.000 No.

06:07:35.000 No!

06:07:36.000 I said so, so that's it.

06:07:39.000 That's the end of the conversation.

06:07:41.000 Same with the kids.

06:07:42.000 Same with all of them.

06:07:43.000 I said so.

06:07:43.000 So I'm now at the point of wealth and influence.

06:07:47.000 I'm an hour I said so guy.

06:07:49.000 When I next sit with the BBC and they say, you had this misogynistic view, where'd that come from?

06:07:53.000 Because I made it up.

06:07:56.000 From my balls, I invented it.

06:07:58.000 I mean it, and I don't need to prove shit to you, and that's the bottom line.

06:08:04.000 That's my new world, dude.

06:08:05.000 That's why I won't debate with that little faggot. 1.00

06:08:07.000 Andrew, how's life, bro?

06:08:16.000 It's pretty good, actually.

06:08:17.000 Caught my cars back yesterday.

06:08:21.000 It was nice.

06:08:21.000 Well, how's the driving been?

06:08:23.000 It's been good?

06:08:25.000 You know, did I want them back?

06:08:30.000 Sometimes you think you want things and then they come and then you don't really care.

06:08:34.000 I mean, why did I even buy them?

06:08:36.000 Did I buy them to drive them or did I buy them because I'm rich and I just like having other people's dreams on my driveway?

06:08:43.000 Maybe I just bought them to show off.

06:08:44.000 Maybe it's because I'm part black and it's just, you know, like diamond watches and cars.

06:08:47.000 I'm just an idiot.

06:08:49.000 I just buy all this shit.

06:08:51.000 And then it gets taken away.

06:08:52.000 And I'm like, it's quite peaceful without all that crap to deal with.

06:08:55.000 And now it's all back and they need cleaning.

06:08:58.000 And it's quite stressful.

06:09:01.000 You know?

06:09:02.000 So I don't I don't know what to say.

06:09:04.000 I mean, my brother and I talk we miss jail.

06:09:08.000 Jail was great.

06:09:10.000 You know, you wake up, push ups, beans.

06:09:15.000 Life was simple.

06:09:16.000 Now it's all complicated and Elections and court.

06:09:21.000 I don't know.

06:09:23.000 I don't know.

06:09:23.000 Is life ever good, Aidan?

06:09:26.000 You tell me.

06:09:26.000 What do you do with your life?

06:09:28.000 Convince me your life's worth living.

06:09:30.000 Okay.

06:09:31.000 Wake up, workout, then I eat, then I sleep.

06:09:34.000 Don't lie.

06:09:35.000 You don't work out.

06:09:36.000 That's a lie.

06:09:36.000 So let's start with the truth.

06:09:40.000 He's been going hard.

06:09:41.000 He's been going hard in the gym recently.

06:09:42.000 I think he's not on drugs.

06:09:44.000 I've been around him for about a week.

06:09:46.000 He's pretty locked.

06:09:47.000 I've never seen him this motivated before.

06:09:48.000 I gotta give him credit for being this motivated.

06:09:50.000 I eat healthy.

06:09:52.000 I stay very, very locked in and that's what I do.

06:09:56.000 Are you going to save the white race, Aiden? 0.98

06:09:58.000 What did you say?

06:09:58.000 Are you going to save the white people?

06:10:01.000 If I had to choose one race to save?

06:10:04.000 Tristan!

06:10:05.000 Tristan, how you doing, man?

06:10:06.000 That's Tristan, let's go!

06:10:08.000 I've been listening for about an hour and I don't really have much to say.

06:10:11.000 I'm just going to sit here and enjoy the ambiance of this podcast because it's nice and toxic, as Andrew was saying, and I bask in toxicity.

06:10:20.000 So I'm just here to soak up the bad vibes, you know, power myself up for the day.

06:10:24.000 We need coffee made by a female. 1.00

06:10:27.000 We need females. 1.00

06:10:28.000 Instruct females to bring us things. 1.00

06:10:30.000 Sure.

06:10:31.000 I promise.

06:10:31.000 Give me a second.

06:10:32.000 So anyways... BBC!

06:10:33.000 Have a breakdown!

06:10:34.000 Yeah?

06:10:36.000 Anyway, Jake, what about you, man?

06:10:37.000 What do you... Jake, what do you do when you wake up?

06:10:41.000 I... I stay in, work out.

06:10:45.000 You know.

06:10:47.000 Stay in, work out.

06:10:48.000 I need two coffees to go to the studio.

06:10:51.000 Yeah, I see.

06:10:53.000 Thanks.

06:10:57.000 My debating days are over, guys, because that's all I said, so I'm sorry.

06:11:07.000 I just said so.

06:11:08.000 This is just how I know.

06:11:10.000 I just know things instinctually.

06:11:13.000 Like, I know that Nick, you and Candace have some kind of beef.

06:11:16.000 I don't know.

06:11:16.000 I don't understand it.

06:11:17.000 But I like Candace. 0.78

06:11:19.000 She's been very nice to me.

06:11:20.000 Candace is a huge... I don't let anyone say anything bad about Candace. 0.99

06:11:23.000 I love Candace.

06:11:24.000 And when she was explaining to me about Brigitte Macron, she was, like, showing me data and stuff, like, why he's a man.

06:11:32.000 And I'm like, you don't have to show me anything.

06:11:35.000 I know that that's true because Macron's a little faggot. 1.00

06:11:38.000 Why do you have beef, Nick, with Candace?

06:11:42.000 I wouldn't say it's beef, but, you know, she gets fired from Daily Wire for saying it's the Jews.

06:11:50.000 And then she starts saying it's not the Jews, it's people pretending to be Jewish.

06:11:57.000 And I just said that's not really true.

06:11:59.000 So we just have a disagreement.

06:12:00.000 She says it's in the Bible, it says they'll call themselves Jews, but they're not. 0.98

06:12:05.000 And I said, well, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the followers of Jacob Frank.

06:12:09.000 I said that could mean a lot of things.

06:12:11.000 But we have a disagreement about it and we talk privately.

06:12:15.000 We're not we're not really contentious anymore we're not hostile to each other, but

06:12:19.000 we had a little you know, there's a little bit of distrust because

06:12:22.000 When you're in this scene and you're controversial and you're telling the truth

06:12:26.000 There are people and I don't know Candace. I've only talked to her a handful of times. I don't I've never met her

06:12:31.000 but people do come in and out of the scene and Sometimes they are really with us and sometimes they're

06:12:37.000 pretending to be with us and I was trying to figure out which one she was

06:12:41.000 And I think she's on the right side, but we just have a disagreement about how we interpret that part of Revelation.

06:12:47.000 I think it's just the Jews. 1.00

06:12:49.000 Just plain, straight up, vanilla, that's who's doing it. 0.98

06:12:53.000 She says it's complicated.

06:12:54.000 Nick, I want to ask you a question, man.

06:12:57.000 You know, I'm Jewish, man.

06:12:58.000 And what do you think about me overall, like, as a Jew?

06:13:00.000 Do you think that I'm one of the good ones?

06:13:02.000 Do you think that, um... Do you not like me?

06:13:05.000 Like, if there... Let me ask you this, also.

06:13:07.000 It's a two-parter.

06:13:08.000 Wait Jake, why are you shaking your head?

06:13:10.000 I'm shaking.

06:13:12.000 Hahaha.

06:13:14.000 Hey Jake, you look...

06:13:16.000 Hahaha.

06:13:18.000 Real quick though.

06:13:20.000 I'm gonna answer two-parter.

06:13:22.000 Overall, three-parter.

06:13:23.000 Overall, what do you think about me?

06:13:24.000 Do you like that I'm Jewish?

06:13:26.000 And if you could, what would you do about me being Jewish?

06:13:29.000 You can answer all three.

06:13:30.000 Go ahead.

06:13:31.000 Well, I like you.

06:13:32.000 I think you're funny.

06:13:33.000 I think you have a good heart.

06:13:36.000 And here's the thing, like, I like Jews in general.

06:13:38.000 I think, you know, it's like every race has their own attributes, like black people, a lot of criminality, but they're also, they also have big hearts. 1.00

06:13:47.000 They're also musical.

06:13:48.000 What's that?

06:13:49.000 Jake, don't let him talk to you like that.

06:13:51.000 So, you know, but there's pros and cons, like with white people. 0.99

06:13:54.000 White people are very organized, but then they're also a little cucked and, you know, they listen to their girlfriends too much and whatever. 1.00

06:14:00.000 No, no, no!

06:14:02.000 It's true, it's true, they do.

06:14:04.000 White people are simps. 1.00

06:14:05.000 I hate to say it.

06:14:06.000 I hate to break it to you.

06:14:07.000 Okay.

06:14:08.000 Alright.

06:14:08.000 Fine.

06:14:09.000 That's okay.

06:14:09.000 Number two.

06:14:10.000 Number two.

06:14:11.000 And with Jews, you know, Jews are very funny.

06:14:14.000 They're very intelligent.

06:14:16.000 And so I have friends who are Jewish, and they're some of my favorite people.

06:14:19.000 They're very extroverted.

06:14:20.000 They're hilarious.

06:14:23.000 At the same time, they're not super trustworthy, okay?

06:14:25.000 Like, they do... Oh, come on!

06:14:27.000 That's just true, and I know it from experience.

06:14:29.000 It's like Andrew said.

06:14:31.000 I said so.

06:14:33.000 They have a talent for deception, and it's the same reason that they're funny, the same reason that they're super smart and good lawyers, it's the same reason they have a talent to spin tales and tell tales.

06:14:44.000 You know, because they're... Hold on.

06:14:46.000 Do you think that Jewish people are manipulative?

06:14:48.000 Oh yeah, all day.

06:14:50.000 All day.

06:14:50.000 This is true!

06:14:53.000 And Jake, you black people steal! 1.00

06:14:57.000 What do you say, Tristan?

06:15:01.000 I played this game with a Jewish friend of mine recently.

06:15:03.000 I was sitting as a member of the war room.

06:15:05.000 We were sitting having drinks.

06:15:06.000 Very cool guy, because I do have Jewish friends.

06:15:08.000 When you always ask, like, what do you think about me being Jewish, et cetera, my perception on it is, are you in the group chat or not?

06:15:15.000 Because, Aiden, I know there's a secret group chat.

06:15:18.000 That controls all this crap.

06:15:19.000 And if you're not in it, then cool.

06:15:21.000 It's all about who's in the group chat.

06:15:23.000 I wrote a secret friend of mine, and I basically said something very similar to Nick.

06:15:27.000 I said, look, we're going to play a word association game.

06:15:30.000 I'm going to say a crime, and you're going to say a race, OK? 1.00

06:15:34.000 I said gun violence in inner cities.

06:15:37.000 Black. 0.93

06:15:39.000 Smuggling drugs and people across the US border.

06:15:41.000 That makes sense.

06:15:43.000 Using banking powers and lobbying groups to subvert politicians.

06:15:49.000 I was like, look bro, I can take it as a half black man.

06:15:53.000 I can take the fact that we're the ones shooting up the inner cities.

06:15:55.000 Look, I'll take that L. I'm not in the group chat.

06:15:58.000 I'm not in the gang bangers, let's go smoke this nigger group chat. 1.00

06:16:03.000 That's not what I'm about as a half black man.

06:16:06.000 Yo, oh my God!

06:16:08.000 Group chat, Aiden, you see?

06:16:09.000 You're just a guy who's Jewish, like my Jewish friends, which is fine.

06:16:12.000 If you're in the group chat, I've got to be careful about you.

06:16:16.000 I don't know if you use Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp, if you've got your own little thing, but I know there's a group chat that you're not in.

06:16:22.000 Tristan, I'm not in it, I promise.

06:16:24.000 Good, good.

06:16:25.000 So, let me ask Nick a question, because you understand the Jewish scenario. 0.55

06:16:29.000 I mean, I understand it, but you understand it probably deeper than me.

06:16:31.000 But would you argue that Jews are doing—okay, let me make sure I word this correctly. 1.00

06:16:38.000 Jews feel threatened because they're not a majority, which means they're using the organizational skills of the white man to constantly subvert and retain power. 0.61

06:16:48.000 So the question is, aren't Jews doing what white people should be doing, but because there's so little of them, they feel enough threat to get it done? 0.84

06:16:57.000 100%.

06:16:57.000 I mean, that's what defines them, is that they are a di— up until recently, they were a diaspora people, meaning they had no land, they had no territory, and even before that, they were subjugated and enslaved, so they have a strong group identity.

06:17:12.000 And they're very, they're histrionic.

06:17:14.000 You know, like, if you make a Jew joke and you don't have rapport, they'll say it's another Holocaust.

06:17:19.000 If you say, like, you know, any Jew joke you can think of, ashtray, this, then that, they'll say, this is anti-Semitism, it's gonna lead to a Holocaust.

06:17:27.000 They have, like, this reflexive, histrionic fear of anti-Semitism because of the history of persecution, expulsion, all those things.

06:17:35.000 Now, we could look at the reasons for that, but that's just what defines them.

06:17:39.000 And so, As a result, like, for example, Israel. 0.87

06:17:43.000 They go and bomb everybody and they say, well, we were out there defending ourselves.

06:17:48.000 That'd be like if I went to my neighbor and, like, shot everyone in the house and said, hey, man, self-defense.

06:17:53.000 I mean, you know, I was in the living room hanging out.

06:17:55.000 You came downstairs.

06:17:56.000 I had to kill.

06:17:57.000 That's what they do.

06:17:58.000 Sneeko is telling me that there's Muslims that live in Israel.

06:18:03.000 That's true.

06:18:05.000 And Christians. 0.85

06:18:06.000 Jerusalem used to be a really traditionally mixed area.

06:18:09.000 Al-Aqsa Mosque is in Israel as well.

06:18:12.000 But the point being is they take that to this wild extreme where they say, in order to defend ourselves, we need our own country.

06:18:20.000 In order for us to have our own country, we need to be terrorists, like the early Zionists. 1.00

06:18:25.000 In order for us to defend our country, we have to invade our neighbors. 0.99

06:18:27.000 We have to machinate and do, you know, lobbying in the United States and all of that.

06:18:33.000 You know, like in the 73 war, Israel was almost defeated by the Arabs, and the Prime Minister of Israel said, If America doesn't send us this giant airlift of weapons, we'll just nuke everybody.

06:18:44.000 And it's like, but that's, they're taking their survival to this logical conclusion and extreme.

06:18:49.000 And it's like Andrew said, it's Darwinism.

06:18:52.000 If white people had that same mindset, you know, we would be seeking to empower ourselves, but we don't, we don't have that same fear because white people are comfortable.

06:19:00.000 We're altruistic.

06:19:01.000 We're in the majority.

06:19:02.000 A lot of white people aren't even conscious of race because they don't need to be because they grew up in a white neighborhood.

06:19:07.000 And so they go out into the world.

06:19:09.000 It's like Andrew said, too, about courts.

06:19:11.000 They don't know how it is in other places.

06:19:13.000 Because to them, race, they're comfortable with it being a construct because it's not an imminent reality for them.

06:19:19.000 For Jews, they grew up their whole lives knowing they're different from everybody. 0.79

06:19:23.000 They celebrate Hanukkah, not Christmas.

06:19:25.000 They get told stories all their holidays about them being persecuted and them being attacked by the Romans or the Persians or the Babylonians.

06:19:33.000 And so they have this like survival instinct, which leads them to amass power and dominate.

06:19:39.000 And yeah, like white people should do the same thing.

06:19:41.000 I 100% agree.

06:19:43.000 I almost don't even hold it against them.

06:19:45.000 But they need to recognize that, you know, there are white countries and white people should be able to thrive and we should be partners, not pawns or puppets.

06:19:54.000 And that's where Jews have what you call chutzpah. 1.00

06:19:57.000 They come into the country and they act like it's their home and they tell people what to do and so on. 0.99

06:20:02.000 And, you know, that's not respectful.

06:20:04.000 That's not harmonious.

06:20:06.000 It stems from their religion.

06:20:08.000 In their religion it says that they're people and we're animals.

06:20:11.000 It says that they have souls and we don't.

06:20:13.000 That's not true.

06:20:16.000 It is true.

06:20:17.000 But so... But listen, personally me, I don't look at you guys as animals.

06:20:20.000 I don't.

06:20:22.000 Thank you.

06:20:23.000 Hey, I appreciate that.

06:20:25.000 I don't see you as an animal.

06:20:25.000 I see you as a human being.

06:20:27.000 Wait, okay, can you answer my third question, though, really quick?

06:20:31.000 If you could do something about me being Jewish, would you?

06:20:33.000 Or would you just keep me the way I am?

06:20:35.000 I would convert you to being Catholic, but I think that... What about... I'm not trying to turn you two against each other, but what about Islam, right?

06:20:44.000 So, you know, there's a lot of similarities in Judaism and Islam.

06:20:49.000 There is.

06:20:49.000 Like, we were talking about it with... There's more similarities in Christianity and Islam.

06:20:53.000 Agreed.

06:20:55.000 I don't think that's true.

06:20:59.000 Look, the main similarity is that we respect Jesus.

06:21:02.000 We love Jesus as a prophet, peace be upon him.

06:21:04.000 Christians see him as God.

06:21:05.000 Jews, they don't. 1.00

06:21:06.000 Jews rejected him and that's how Christianity started. 0.99

06:21:07.000 But Jesus Christ was true. 0.97

06:21:09.000 It's a religious argument, but I just want to understand.

06:21:14.000 I want to see if you see it the same way I do, because I believe that scared dogs bite, and I believe that Jews are naturally afraid, and that's the reason they're so psychopathic, is because they're afraid. 1.00

06:21:24.000 And you quite pertinently pointed out that they felt different their whole lives.

06:21:28.000 They know they're different.

06:21:29.000 They have a national identity.

06:21:31.000 And we're talking about how white people should be doing what they're doing to protect themselves.

06:21:35.000 And then would you also agree that they're subverting white nations because they consider white people the most organized and serious threat? 0.50

06:21:41.000 Yeah, that's what World War II, the myth of World War II is all about because the mantra after World War II was never again.

06:21:49.000 Never again can there be a Hitler and a Holocaust. 0.98

06:21:52.000 And by the way, I agree with that.

06:21:55.000 But they said, no, no, we cannot.

06:21:58.000 You know, we would say something like, yeah, countries shouldn't genocide people.

06:22:02.000 Totally.

06:22:03.000 But what they, they took it a step further and they said, well, what led to Hitler?

06:22:06.000 And they said, fathers, love of nation, love of God.

06:22:11.000 They said, and they called it the authoritarian personality.

06:22:13.000 Yeah, go ahead.

06:22:14.000 Nick, you're saying that, or sorry, Andrew, you said that like, the Jews are like, scared, right?

06:22:20.000 We're scared.

06:22:22.000 Of what, exactly?

06:22:23.000 I mean, you guys are also saying that Jews run the world, right? 0.84

06:22:26.000 So, what would we technically be scared of?

06:22:28.000 I'm not a Jew who runs the world.

06:22:30.000 I'm not.

06:22:30.000 I give nobody any shame or...

06:22:33.000 But there's what I said scared dogs bite. I mean, they're afraid that they're going to be wiped out

06:22:37.000 They're afraid for their existence and this is why they are so protective of

06:22:40.000 The narrative to change and they want to have israel and as nick pointed out they're they're very aggressive 0.98

06:22:47.000 And when a dog is aggressive, it's a scared dog a dog. That's not scared isn't aggressive

06:22:51.000 They're aggressive and they believe that anyone anytime might kill them and might come for them

06:22:55.000 They're nervous.

06:22:56.000 They're jittery.

06:22:57.000 That's how they are.

06:22:58.000 That's why they'll go to war so easily.

06:23:00.000 It's why they'll invade countries. 1.00

06:23:01.000 It's why they'll commit genocide.

06:23:02.000 It's why they'll do such heinous things, because they're afraid.

06:23:04.000 When you're afraid, you do heinous things.

06:23:07.000 And the white man, perhaps, isn't very afraid, which is why he's not reacting very much to anything.

06:23:13.000 He doesn't feel the fear, but fear is a very powerful motivator inside of the human psyche.

06:23:17.000 In fact, I don't know why I'm getting thumbs up, but Fear is probably the most powerful motivator inside of the human psyche.

06:23:24.000 So I think that they fear and they feel afraid and that's why they're constantly searching for power and constantly trying to subvert all other power structures is because they know that they're threatened.

06:23:33.000 If you don't feel threatened, you're not going to react.

06:23:36.000 That's just how things are.

06:23:37.000 You're not going to take You're not going to take preventative measures at least.

06:23:40.000 If you live in a hostile area, you're going to put a big fancy door on your house because you're scared.

06:23:45.000 You're going to get guns because you're scared.

06:23:47.000 If you don't feel any threats, you're not going to.

06:23:49.000 So I feel like perhaps they just feel intimidated, they feel threatened, and they know especially now that they pissed the world off, so they're even more threatened, more intimidated, because they know that they're less liked And they see the white countries and the white man as the most organized and formidable enemy, because they fear organized enemies.

06:24:06.000 They don't fear randomized enemies.

06:24:09.000 They fear an organized group of people coming along and taking their influence away, because if they lose their influence, then they feel like they're going to be destroyed.

06:24:19.000 That's the only time, guys, that's the only time white people are going to get their act together, once it's too late.

06:24:25.000 Once it's too late, they're going to wake up and they're going to go, oh shit, When you try and prevent the bad thing from happening before it's too late, then you're crazy, then you're a conspiracy theorist, then you're a bad person.

06:24:36.000 But once it's too late, they'll all mobilize and they'll do anything it takes to try and survive.

06:24:41.000 That's just how, that's human nature, unfortunately.

06:24:44.000 Yes, sir.

06:24:45.000 Question though, would you, do you agree that like, I mean, I mean, I know the answer, but what about like a Jew like me, right?

06:24:51.000 Not like a Jew, Is that me? 1.00

06:24:54.000 No, I don't think so.

06:24:55.000 I don't look at it that way.

06:24:57.000 People have ties to certain things.

06:24:58.000 This actually goes back into what we were saying earlier about thick and thin cultures, right?

06:25:03.000 Okay.

06:25:04.000 I don't look at it that way.

06:25:06.000 You just have, people have tried, people have ties to certain things.

06:25:10.000 This is actually goes back into what we were saying earlier about thick and thin cultures,

06:25:13.000 right?

06:25:14.000 The idea that people in Dubai all want to be in Dubai because they can make money and

06:25:18.000 they're all loyal enough to Dubai, et cetera.

06:25:21.000 If the Jews are loyal to Judaism above everything else, then you're automatically going to subvert everything besides Judaism. 0.99

06:25:27.000 People often confuse being a hateful person with being a person full of love.

06:25:32.000 People confuse this.

06:25:33.000 If you love anything, Then you are going to dislike things opposite to that you love.

06:25:38.000 They will call you hateful for saying that I love white people.

06:25:42.000 No, you just love white people, so you want to see white babies and white families and white nations because you love white people. 0.76

06:25:48.000 You can't love something without also being called hateful the other way.

06:25:51.000 There's equal and opposite force.

06:25:53.000 If they are in love with Judaism above all things, then they'll subvert all things besides Judaism, which means they'll subvert all things besides Israel, which includes America. 0.88

06:26:03.000 So then the question is, well, if they're going to subvert everything besides the only thing they care about, do you want these people having any power over things they do not care about?

06:26:11.000 This is a pretty logical conversation.

06:26:13.000 Are you checking the group chat, Aiden?

06:26:16.000 They texted me.

06:26:16.000 They said we got to stop talking about this.

06:26:18.000 Good catch.

06:26:19.000 No.

06:26:20.000 No, keep going.

06:26:21.000 Jake, they said they're gonna come knock on your door.

06:26:23.000 Keep going.

06:26:25.000 It's just where loyalties land.

06:26:27.000 And perhaps they're so loyal to their history and loyal to their identity.

06:26:31.000 I think everyone's loyal to everyone, right?

06:26:34.000 I think everyone's loyal to everyone, right?

06:26:35.000 So, like, if you introduce, like, I mean, even Sneko told me, like, there's a clip of, like, somebody introducing me to somebody, like, oh, he's a Jewish kid.

06:26:41.000 But there's also, like, when you guys introduce, I don't know, I don't want to talk about religion, but For example, when you introduce yourself and you're like, oh, he's, you know, a Muslim, whatever, and you guys will say something.

06:26:51.000 So you were telling me, it's like the same thing.

06:26:53.000 It's like, you guys have said that in comment.

06:26:55.000 It's not like it's some type of like cult or like some crazy fucking, you know, thing you got going on.

06:27:01.000 It's just like, oh, well, he's a Muslim. 1.00

06:27:04.000 I'll argue right here that Muslims are loyal to Islam above most things as well, which just adds to the problem. 1.00

06:27:09.000 I mean, I don't know about America, I'll talk about England, but England, where I grew up, I grew up in a town which was 80% Muslim, Luton, and Muslims are loyal to Islam above they are loyal to the government, and above their loyalty to England, and above their loyalty to most things.

06:27:22.000 They're loyal to Islam above all things.

06:27:24.000 And I'm not saying they shouldn't be at all.

06:27:26.000 I'm saying that they are.

06:27:28.000 You have to be logical and have conversations without getting emotionally invested like a child and sit and say, okay, do you want X amount of people inside of a country, X amount of subsect of the populace which are loyal to something different?

06:27:41.000 Then the country itself, which will change the face of the nation forever.

06:27:44.000 That's the conversation.

06:27:46.000 Because everyone's loyal to something.

06:27:48.000 If you have a football team, you have black people, white people, Muslims, Jews, everyone on the same football team.

06:27:52.000 They're loyal to the football team.

06:27:53.000 They all try and win.

06:27:55.000 That's fine.

06:27:55.000 Great.

06:27:56.000 But when you talk about a country, when you have people coming to the country who are loyal to things besides the country, and they're prepared to exploit the country for the benefit of that group instead, then you have to ask yourself, do you want those people in the country at all?

06:28:08.000 That's a pretty sensible conversation to have, isn't it?

06:28:11.000 Like, would I allow someone into my house who didn't have the best intentions for me and the household?

06:28:16.000 I don't think that would make sense.

06:28:19.000 It's always going to happen with faith.

06:28:22.000 Muslims are always going to show allegiance to God in front of the nation, because there's nothing more important than God.

06:28:27.000 And that's where I see the issue, because that's why I know that Judaism is a false religion, and the same with why I think Christianity is a false religion. 0.99

06:28:35.000 Islam is only pure loyalty to God and God alone. 1.00

06:28:39.000 The reason that Judaism, why there's an issue with the power, because I don't, obviously I never said it was all Jews at all, I think it is, I think it's the Zionists that show allegiance to the racial aspect of Judaism rather than the religious aspect. 0.90

06:28:50.000 And there is no racial aspect in Islam.

06:28:53.000 There's no, there's no racial aspect.

06:28:55.000 In Islam, as long as you're a Muslim, then you're, we're all the same under God.

06:29:01.000 I see what Nick is doing and why it's commendable but we've disagreed upon this and why I think that there's a small flaw is that he sees the issue with Zionism and how ethnicity is tied to faith and it's almost like he wants to do the same thing. 0.59

06:29:15.000 I would like to see what his response to this is but you see the The Zionist problem and how it's tied to ethnicity and faith.

06:29:24.000 And so you talk about how we need white Christians, white Catholics, but there's no idea of whiteness or there's no idea of race that's written into Catholicism.

06:29:34.000 Yeah, I mean, my response to that is what we were talking about earlier.

06:29:37.000 There is a tension between the fact that, you're right, Islam and Catholicism are both universal religions, meaning anyone can be a part of it.

06:29:44.000 Judaism is not. 1.00

06:29:45.000 Judaism believes that they are a people. 0.82

06:29:48.000 According to Jewish law, if your mother is Jewish, you're Jewish.

06:29:51.000 And they really don't encourage conversion.

06:29:53.000 A lot of people don't even recognize conversion.

06:29:55.000 A lot of Jews don't. 0.83

06:29:57.000 That's why on Israel, citizenship is awarded on the basis of ethnicity.

06:30:01.000 They call it birthright.

06:30:02.000 If you're born a Jew, you'd be a citizen of Israel. 0.64

06:30:05.000 Catholicism says anyone that gets the sacraments is a Christian, and Muslims believe anyone that says the Shahada and does the almsgiving and all those things, you're a Muslim. 0.51

06:30:14.000 And the tension is, you know, does that abrogate nationhood and race?

06:30:18.000 And I would say it doesn't.

06:30:19.000 Thomas Aquinas, the Catholic Catechism, they both say that, you know, there are distinct, discrete nations.

06:30:26.000 There are real nations.

06:30:27.000 And, you know, a country can have immigrants and take refugees and things like that, but the refugees have to It takes generations for them to be seen as equal.

06:30:36.000 It says that in the Catechism.

06:30:37.000 Aquinas says that.

06:30:39.000 It says that they have to respect the country and the culture of the people in it.

06:30:42.000 And what we have going on right now isn't even immigration.

06:30:45.000 It is designed to socially engineer the country.

06:30:48.000 And by the way, You know, when America is like 10% white, it's not going to be more Catholic. 0.73

06:30:53.000 It's not going to be more Christian. 0.86

06:30:55.000 It's going to be barbaric, chaotic.

06:30:57.000 It's going to be a never-ending race war. 0.95

06:30:59.000 So the idea that, like, multi-racialism and population transfers have something to do with Catholicism, it doesn't make the world more Catholic.

06:31:07.000 There's nothing in our religion that says we have to accept it.

06:31:09.000 You know, race is real, too, and nationhood is real, too.

06:31:12.000 And even within Christendom, you had nations, just like within Islam. 0.93

06:31:16.000 I mean, you have a caliphate, but right now you have nations, and there's different sects.

06:31:20.000 You know, you have Shiites and Sunnis and Alawites, and the Houthis are a different type.

06:31:25.000 And, you know, the thing with Zionism is different because they really do believe, according to Kabbalah and the Talmud, according to Rabbi Schneerson, who they believe, the Rebbe, they believe he's the Messiah.

06:31:36.000 A lot of the Hasidic Jews do.

06:31:38.000 He said that Gentiles don't have souls.

06:31:40.000 Like, we're not in-souled in the way that Jews are. 0.97

06:31:42.000 And that's why they say we have the Noahide laws and they have to abide by the Talmud and the Mishnah and all that stuff. 0.70

06:31:49.000 So they really, it is like baked into the cake with them.

06:31:52.000 It's an ethno religion.

06:31:53.000 So the religion and the race are inseparable. 0.89

06:31:55.000 And I would say the difference is, by the way, that's why they're given to hatred.

06:31:59.000 You know, they write articles and they say there's a virtue in hating Palestinians. 1.00

06:32:03.000 When October 7th happened, they said, kill them all, finish the job.

06:32:08.000 They're inflicting collective punishment.

06:32:10.000 And that's because they don't value human life the same way.

06:32:12.000 A lot of them don't.

06:32:13.000 Catholics say, even our enemies, we pray for them.

06:32:16.000 Even our enemies, especially our enemies, we pray for them and show mercy.

06:32:20.000 And compassion.

06:32:22.000 So there is a real—I don't think it's fair to say just because, you know, we don't want a race to die that, you know, it's comparable to Zionism.

06:32:30.000 And Zionism, too, is particularly about the land.

06:32:32.000 They say it's that land, that people, that temple, and restoring the temple so that they can get a Messiah and restart the sacrifices and then rule the world.

06:32:42.000 So there's a victimhood that makes them the way they are.

06:32:45.000 It is also this prophecy Like, you know, if you read Jewish literature, they're obsessed. 0.53

06:32:50.000 They're afraid of assimilation.

06:32:52.000 It's not only that they're afraid of persecution, and they hate Catholic kings because Catholic kings persecuted them, and they hate the Tsar because the Tsar segregated them.

06:33:02.000 And they hate Hitler because Hitler tried to genocide them.

06:33:05.000 But what they also resist is assimilation.

06:33:08.000 They don't want to intermarry.

06:33:09.000 They don't want to adopt everybody's culture.

06:33:11.000 And that's why they've persisted for thousands of years.

06:33:13.000 They're preoccupied with that.

06:33:15.000 And these religious communities, they're preoccupied with staying together, returning to the land, rebuilding the temple, and doing the sacrifices because it's a temple and a land and a race-based religion.

06:33:26.000 And without all those things, you don't have Judaism. 0.96

06:33:28.000 And that's what makes it a real problem.

06:33:30.000 It's like Andrew said it perfectly.

06:33:32.000 When they run our country or they influence our country, it's like Ben Shapiro.

06:33:36.000 Ben Shapiro cares more about Israel than America.

06:33:39.000 And if America were at war with Israel, you know what side he would be on.

06:33:43.000 Should he be influencing our politics?

06:33:45.000 No.

06:33:46.000 And so many of the conservative media, they're literally IDF.

06:33:49.000 Like Prager University, huge educational outlet.

06:33:52.000 The CEO is a former Israeli intelligence operative.

06:33:56.000 Do you think, like, Foreign intelligence officers should be manipulating American politics? 0.83

06:34:02.000 Obviously, there's a conflict of interest.

06:34:04.000 And that's the problem.

06:34:05.000 It's not a prejudice.

06:34:07.000 I don't hate Jews for being Jews.

06:34:08.000 I actually like them.

06:34:10.000 You know, some of them are very funny and intelligent.

06:34:12.000 But, you know, it's about loyalty.

06:34:15.000 Are you loyal to country?

06:34:17.000 Are you loyal to the people of Israel and world Jewry? 0.74

06:34:20.000 For many Jews, it's the latter.

06:34:22.000 Yeah, this is some of the confusion I've had because obviously I'm Islamic and I agree with Sneko about God and saying how Muslims worship God above all things.

06:34:31.000 I respect all of that.

06:34:32.000 But I don't see it as anti-Islamic for me to sit and say, me knowing how Muslims view Islam and knowing how we put that above all things, I understand why Christians wouldn't want us to come to their country. 0.91

06:34:46.000 I am logical enough to understand why they wouldn't want people who do not respect their religion to the same degree they do, or don't even respect their laws.

06:34:57.000 They respect Allah's law above the laws of the land.

06:35:00.000 I don't think it's anti-Islamic to say, I totally understand why they don't want us to come then. 1.00

06:35:04.000 Is that anti-Islamic?

06:35:05.000 What's wrong with that?

06:35:06.000 That makes sense, right?

06:35:06.000 Because it's loyalty to I mean, if you're going to have a country, what you want is loyalty to the nation.

06:35:12.000 Let's say Russia.

06:35:15.000 The reason we hate Russia so much—when I say we, I mean the West—the reason the West hates Russia so much is because they're loyal to Russia.

06:35:21.000 They're loyal to the motherland, and they're prepared to die for it.

06:35:24.000 That's what they hate about Russia.

06:35:26.000 It's just nationalistic.

06:35:27.000 They can't stand that it's nationalistic.

06:35:29.000 And they'll do anything to destroy it for that one reason alone, because Nationalism is what they fear because men are prepared to die on the spot for something, and that's the number one thing they're afraid of.

06:35:39.000 So, if you're a Muslim in Russia, because Russia is very multi-ethnic, you can be Islamic, you can be Christian.

06:35:46.000 In fact, a lot of people are surprised by how Islamic Russia is.

06:35:49.000 When I was in Moscow, I saw headscarves everywhere, like Turkey. 1.00

06:35:53.000 It's extremely Islamic. 0.75

06:35:54.000 But they're all Russian, and they all love Russia.

06:35:58.000 Right?

06:35:59.000 But if you had a sect or a religion in Russia that viewed their religion as above Russia in all ways, I feel like then there'd be some difficulty there.

06:36:08.000 I feel like they still managed to stay nationalistic even though there's different religions.

06:36:12.000 So I understand why white Christians sit and say, we don't want Muslims to come here. 0.67

06:36:17.000 That doesn't mean I don't believe in Islam.

06:36:19.000 I'm just not personally offended because I just understand their point of view.

06:36:21.000 I don't see what's anti-Islamic about saying, I get it.

06:36:24.000 Well, I mean, that's something that white Christians would agree with. 0.93

06:36:27.000 They would put their faith above their nationalism at all times.

06:36:31.000 I just, I don't want white Christian or just especially Western nations to make the same mistake that Israel's making and why they're the source of so much destruction in the world right now and so much warfare. 0.98

06:36:41.000 Because if you put allegiance to your nation above allegiance to God, that's how things get corrupted.

06:36:46.000 That's how you see the warfare that's happening right now.

06:36:52.000 When you're going off about what's bad about Israel and about how Zionists get corrupted because they don't want intermarriage or they don't want people to assimilate into their culture, aren't those two things that you agree with? 0.98

06:37:04.000 Don't you not want people to race mix and you also don't want much immigration? 0.98

06:37:08.000 You don't want people to assimilate or change the white Christian identity in the West?

06:37:12.000 Well, I don't think it's corrupt.

06:37:13.000 You guys talk about corruption.

06:37:14.000 That's like a very, that's like an Islamic theological thing.

06:37:18.000 You talk about the corrupt, the corruption of the Bible and so on.

06:37:21.000 I don't think it's corrupting at all.

06:37:22.000 I think it's, it makes sense because they view their bloodline as very special.

06:37:28.000 And so, they're actually adhering to their religion.

06:37:30.000 That's not a corruption of Judaism.

06:37:32.000 That's a fulfillment of Judaism. 0.93

06:37:34.000 You know, the whole Old Testament is about lineage.

06:37:37.000 Like, if you go to, on a Christmas mass, they read out literally the lineage from Adam to Jesus Christ, from the first man until Jesus, and they talk about the whole lineage.

06:37:48.000 They're obsessed with it.

06:37:49.000 And some Jews say they have a book literally of every Jew for thousands and thousands of years.

06:37:54.000 They have all the names, because there's not very many of them.

06:37:57.000 And so, no, it's not a corruption of their religion.

06:37:59.000 And I would say that, you know, once again, it's like, just because Europe is Christian doesn't mean that Europe doesn't have a right to exist.

06:38:07.000 You know, that's why Europeans evangelized the world.

06:38:10.000 When Europe went out and colonized the world, we brought Christianity. 0.97

06:38:14.000 And, you know, the New World was made Christian by the Spanish, and parts of Africa were made Christian by the European colonists. 0.81

06:38:21.000 And, you know, we want the world to be Christian.

06:38:23.000 But we don't want the world to be in the only Christian countries, which were up until hundreds of years ago, in Europe, because then there's no more of us. 0.99

06:38:31.000 And so, you know, again, I just don't understand, again, in the Catholic religion, there's nothing that says we can't exist as a nation.

06:38:38.000 On the contrary, you know, Pope Francis said that we should maintain the different nations.

06:38:43.000 He's pro-refugee, thinks we should be compassionate, but he also doesn't believe that, he says that white people should have kids. 0.55

06:38:49.000 The Pope said that.

06:38:51.000 Isn't it a bit hypocritical to say to Christians that as long as people are Christian they are okay to come into white Christian nations? 0.72

06:39:00.000 Considering that even in the Islamic world we still have countries and we still have borders and we still have sex. 0.92

06:39:05.000 Like Iran and Iraq and these countries don't even like, a lot of them don't even like each other. 0.88

06:39:09.000 A lot of them have gone to war.

06:39:11.000 In the Islamic world, we don't say you're Muslim so everyone's allowed everywhere.

06:39:15.000 In fact, Qatar and Bahrain and Kuwait and some of the richest Islamic nations have the strongest immigration there is.

06:39:23.000 And Dubai doesn't just, UAE doesn't just let anyone in who's Muslim.

06:39:26.000 No, you have to apply, and you have to do it right, and you have to do it by the law, and you're not allowed to break the border.

06:39:30.000 So I just feel like when we say as Muslims, ah, well, we put Islam above countries, so as long as you're Muslim, everything's fine. 1.00

06:39:39.000 I don't know if most Islamic nations even do that.

06:39:41.000 Isn't that just a lie to try and once again convince Christians to just genocide the white race? 0.94

06:39:45.000 Did you shave your whole body?

06:39:51.000 Not yet, I gotta do my back too.

06:39:53.000 Sorry, I know it's a little bit disturbing for you guys.

06:39:56.000 Yeah, it's a bit traumatic.

06:39:57.000 It's first thing in the morning, I don't need to be seeing this shade.

06:40:01.000 I'll go with those black jeans.

06:40:04.000 I've got nothing.

06:40:06.000 Nothing.

06:40:07.000 But no, but on a serious point, like what Islamic country And this is a genuine question, as a Muslim.

06:40:14.000 What Islamic country puts Islam above everything else? 1.00

06:40:18.000 Because there's tribes in Afghanistan, there's tribes in Iran. 0.96

06:40:22.000 Iran is, I mean, I'm not saying the country can't be unified with different ethnicities, they are, but the ethnicities are still recognized.

06:40:29.000 The ethnicities still exist.

06:40:31.000 There's still country borders.

06:40:33.000 There's still immigration laws.

06:40:36.000 There's still all the things that we tell the West are not allowed to have.

06:40:39.000 And to take that a step further, when Nick is saying about Jews not wanting to intermarry, etc., a lot of that exists within Muslim countries themselves.

06:40:47.000 There are people in Iraq who don't describe themselves as Iraqi.

06:40:52.000 They say they're Kurds.

06:40:54.000 We need our own country.

06:40:55.000 We need Kurdistan.

06:40:56.000 I'm only going to marry a Kurdish woman because I want to have Kurdish kids. 0.99

06:40:59.000 All Muslims, all from the same country, all holding Iraqi passports.

06:41:02.000 There are certain sects even within Islam and Muslim countries that don't intermarry and won't date people from outside of their own little culture and their own little area anyway.

06:41:11.000 So isn't it a massive sigh off to then say to Christians, ah well they're a Christian from Rwanda so just let them come it's all going to be the same because you're all Christian because Muslims don't do that. 0.99

06:41:19.000 No, I'm not saying that they should just let in Christians.

06:41:21.000 I'm saying the most important thing has to be the brotherhood within the ummah.

06:41:26.000 It's not nationalism.

06:41:27.000 There's nothing that says that you can't be nationalistic, but that's what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, that's what he was sent to separate. 0.98

06:41:33.000 There were all these tribes in the Arabic region, different pagan religions divided from that.

06:41:38.000 When people put their nationalism first, when they said this tribe is the most important thing, that's how they ended up worshipping idols, that's how they ended up being divided.

06:41:46.000 Islam came and that united so many people across the world.

06:41:49.000 Once again, the biggest Islamic country is not even in the Middle East.

06:41:53.000 It's in, I'm pretty sure it's Indonesia.

06:41:56.000 No, I agree with you.

06:41:57.000 I'm just saying that I try to be fair and balanced in all things.

06:42:02.000 I agree with you.

06:42:03.000 But when I talk to Muslims and they say to Umar and Islam above all things, I'm like, yeah, that's fine. 1.00

06:42:08.000 Saudi Arabia is literally bombing Yemen.

06:42:10.000 Literally.

06:42:11.000 Like, I feel like there's a degree of hypocritical talk that we use, but we only—we don't talk about it really with other Muslims, because we understand it. 0.96

06:42:20.000 But when we come to Christians, we come along and say, ah, you should just accept everyone.

06:42:24.000 You should, like, you know, as long as they're Christian. 1.00

06:42:26.000 I feel like it's hypocritical, and I feel like it's just another attack we use on Christians.

06:42:30.000 The problem with the Christian faith is that it's based on forgiveness. 0.97

06:42:33.000 It's based on endless tolerance.

06:42:35.000 That's what it's based on.

06:42:37.000 I feel like in many ways, Christians are easy to take advantage of. 0.72

06:42:41.000 I don't know if you saw our protests when we protested what they said they did about Jesus and the Olympics.

06:42:47.000 I'm in the most Christian nation in the world.

06:42:48.000 It took me and my brother to do that.

06:42:50.000 And the other Christians I knew, I was telling them about it, and they were all like, ah, yeah, you know, they'll see in the afterlife.

06:42:56.000 It's very It's placid.

06:42:59.000 There's too many cheeks to turn.

06:43:01.000 And I just feel like sometimes when we talk to Christians as Muslims, or people in general when you talk to Christians, you're just weaponizing their tolerance against them.

06:43:11.000 And especially sometimes it can be hypocritical.

06:43:13.000 I'm trying to think of an Islamic nation where I can turn up and say, well, I'm a Muslim, just let me in.

06:43:18.000 And I don't think that's going to happen.

06:43:19.000 We should be representative of Islam.

06:43:22.000 Because one thing we all agree upon, even if the leaders, they make mistakes, and we all make mistakes, the leaders are not representative of the religion as a whole.

06:43:29.000 So we all understand, even though that Saudi may be bombing Yemen or there's divisions between Shia, Sunni, we still believe that there's nothing that is supposed to unite us besides Islam. 0.84

06:43:38.000 That's always going to supersede nationalism.

06:43:42.000 Well, yeah, and we believe that as Christians, but we also believe in nations.

06:43:47.000 You know, Catholicism, if you look at the Christian religion, it's very against the idea of globalism.

06:43:53.000 It's against the idea of global government.

06:43:54.000 It's against the Tower of Babel.

06:43:56.000 It is a story of tribes.

06:43:58.000 And it is true that You know, Christ came and said, you know, you're neither Greek nor Jew, and man and woman. 0.68

06:44:05.000 But that's true in a spiritual sense.

06:44:07.000 We are still men and women.

06:44:08.000 We are still Jew and Greek, or Jew and Gentile, and we are still one nation and another nation.

06:44:14.000 And, you know, it's interesting about the Israelis.

06:44:17.000 They wrote something in the 80s.

06:44:19.000 There's an article that was written back then by this guy named Oded Yanan, and he analyzed all the weaknesses of the Muslim countries.

06:44:25.000 He actually said, He was a senior advisor to someone who eventually became the prime minister.

06:44:31.000 He said, actually, the real threat to Israel aren't the Muslim countries at all. 0.51

06:44:35.000 He said, it's moral relativism, it's communism, it's nuclear weapons.

06:44:39.000 He said, Muslim countries are only the imminent threat. 1.00

06:44:41.000 He said, but they will never last.

06:44:43.000 And in each case, he said, the systemic weaknesses of every Muslim country was their diversity. 1.00

06:44:50.000 He said Syria has Alawites, Kurds, and Sunnis.

06:44:54.000 Iraq has Sunnis, Shia, and Kurds.

06:44:56.000 He said Lebanon is realistically like five countries in one.

06:44:59.000 He said Saudi Arabia is not even a real country.

06:45:01.000 It's all these tribes and foreign workers ruled over by a very precarious king. 1.00

06:45:05.000 Egypt has way too many Christians. 1.00

06:45:07.000 Libya has a small population.

06:45:09.000 And he and this guy, and this has formed the basis of Israeli foreign policy.

06:45:14.000 This is your Iraq war, Syrian civil war. 0.79

06:45:16.000 He said, we're going to systematically rip apart these countries on the basis of their

06:45:20.000 diversity.

06:45:21.000 And so I think that, you know, look, if we want to organize as human beings into strong,

06:45:26.000 stable, healthy societies, homogeneity is a part of it.

06:45:31.000 It's conducive to a community.

06:45:34.000 It's conducive to a good way of living, to have people with commonality.

06:45:38.000 And there's something that's good, and there's something that's decent about that, seeing

06:45:42.000 race as extended family.

06:45:43.000 I think that's part of honor your mother and father.

06:45:45.000 Are you really honoring your mother and father if you intermarry and dump all their traditions?

06:45:50.000 You know, your parents are one way, you marry somebody else, now your kids are some completely different culture, different color, different everything.

06:45:58.000 There's something that strikes me as wrong about that.

06:46:00.000 So, and it's true, you know, Islam, the Muslim world is not globalist at all.

06:46:04.000 It's very nationalistic.

06:46:05.000 It's extremely tribalistic.

06:46:07.000 It's sectarian. 0.63

06:46:08.000 There's big religious differences.

06:46:10.000 And so, you know, that's something, ironically, people like Destiny, like liberals will say, oh, you're Christian?

06:46:17.000 Well, what do you want to live in a country with 100 million white atheists or 100 million black Christians? 0.61

06:46:23.000 I don't think there's anything Christian about saying they should. 0.98

06:46:26.000 I'd rather live in the country with the white people, and then I'd like to evangelize them, 1.00

06:46:30.000 because I'm white and I think white people should exist.

06:46:32.000 The real question is, do you think there should be – do you think Christians – do you 1.00

06:46:36.000 think white people should be genocided or do you not?

06:46:38.000 And I don't think there's anything Christian about saying they should. 0.93

06:46:41.000 I don't think God would smile upon that, especially given that white people evangelize 1.00

06:46:45.000 the world and systematize the religion and so on.

06:46:48.000 So, it's just, it is like kind of an anti-white... The thing, like, they're not running out of Arabs.

06:46:54.000 They're always making more Arabs. 1.00

06:46:55.000 White people are in short supply. 0.92

06:46:57.000 You'd probably feel differently if it was reversed.

06:47:00.000 That's true, but... You're not Arab, though. 0.61

06:47:02.000 Would you say the same thing if you couldn't evangelize the white atheists? 0.81

06:47:06.000 Would the answer stay the same?

06:47:09.000 Well, at that point, it's like a would-you-rather with this conditional.

06:47:13.000 If you couldn't evangelize whites and it had to be all whites or all blacks, I don't know. 0.59

06:47:20.000 Well, that would just be impossible because we believe that everybody's receptive to the grace of God.

06:47:24.000 So it's just like, it's a hypothetical that's impossible.

06:47:28.000 That's fair.

06:47:28.000 I mean, the pushback, I think it was small.

06:47:30.000 I mean, people have seen the war that's going on on Twitter.

06:47:33.000 I think it all started from the cat eating videos and the dog eating videos and then that video of Trump going around saying they're eating the dogs, eating the cats.

06:47:40.000 The major pushback and people started saying I'm a sellout, which is there was no evidence of that happening.

06:47:45.000 Like, I'm not saying that we should allow refugees to go.

06:47:48.000 There's no evidence of that.

06:47:49.000 But there is though.

06:47:49.000 The video that went around that went viral was an African-American woman.

06:47:52.000 It was a black woman. 1.00

06:47:53.000 It wasn't even a Haitian.

06:47:54.000 There's no specific evidence of Haitians eating cats and dogs in America.

06:47:58.000 Yes, there is.

06:47:59.000 If you look, you can find it for sure.

06:48:01.000 I mean, it's on X. You look through X, you can find anything nowadays.

06:48:04.000 The video that went viral that then Trump started talking about at the debate, that was an African-American woman. 0.90

06:48:09.000 I'm just saying in general, you could definitely find videos of that, 100%.

06:48:12.000 Of Haitians eating cats in America? 1.00

06:48:13.000 100%.

06:48:13.000 I can find one right now, bro, if I wanted to.

06:48:16.000 Someone can do it, you can find it.

06:48:18.000 And actually, I'd argue, just my last bit on this point, even if I find videos of Haitians eating cats in Haiti, I don't want 6% of the Haitian population over in America. 1.00

06:48:29.000 It doesn't matter where they are, if they're doing it anywhere, I don't want the people who eat cats near my door's cat here, you know?

06:48:37.000 Yeah, I think also, one of the things we're overlooking here, you talk about religion, you talk about nationalism, and we talk about, you know, race a lot.

06:48:45.000 And I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to feel an affinity to the people around you.

06:48:48.000 Humans are social creatures.

06:48:50.000 So when we try and get Nick with this question, do you want to be the only outcast in a society?

06:48:56.000 Well, not really.

06:48:57.000 I mean, I'd like to feel affinity with the people around me.

06:49:01.000 And if they look like me, I feel more affinity to them.

06:49:04.000 I think that's kind of an unfair question.

06:49:05.000 But the other point I want to make here is, I feel like a lot of it is just simply down because we talk about religion, we talk about countries, we talk about all these different things, but really it's down to just interest.

06:49:14.000 You need to have a common interest as a population.

06:49:18.000 I said earlier about a football team.

06:49:19.000 You can have a football team of different races and religions because they have a common interest and a common goal.

06:49:24.000 And I think what the West is losing now is we don't have a common interest and a common goal, which is what makes the melting pot such a problem.

06:49:30.000 Because when you don't have a common interest and common goal, perhaps you can find a common interest in something as banal and simple and easy to see as race.

06:49:37.000 Race is very easy to observe. 0.98

06:49:40.000 Religion is very easy.

06:49:41.000 They're the same as me.

06:49:45.000 That wasn't as important when you had a common goal.

06:49:48.000 The point I'm getting to with this, which is kind of unfortunate, is I feel like one of the only things that unifies people truly is struggle.

06:49:57.000 Because if you look at Iran, Iran has a massive problem with different ethnicities.

06:50:02.000 But the reason they manage to keep it all under control is because it's us versus them. 0.80

06:50:07.000 They have an enemy.

06:50:08.000 And when you unify everybody behind an enemy, you can unify the population.

06:50:11.000 Russia the same. 0.87

06:50:13.000 Russia has crazy amounts of ethnicities and religions and languages and time zones.

06:50:18.000 But they have enemies.

06:50:19.000 It's Russia versus the world. 0.99

06:50:21.000 So when you have an enemy that is formidable, you can unify people behind one ideal.

06:50:26.000 And when you unify people behind one ideal, race and religion become a lot less important, because they have a common goal, a common objective.

06:50:33.000 So perhaps in the West, I know, I love these conversations about mass re-migration, all this stuff. 0.94

06:50:39.000 It's a nice conversation, but it's never going to happen.

06:50:41.000 Never in a million years.

06:50:42.000 So surely it's more constructive to say, well, then we need a common goal of some sort that everybody buys into.

06:50:49.000 The problem is that's difficult when you have people with different versions of history and different religions and different cultural backgrounds and different languages and different upbringings and different Then it becomes a lot more difficult, but you need something that's unifying people at least.

06:51:01.000 There's a massive difference to me, having lived all over the world, and I'm a no-man.

06:51:05.000 I'm half black, quarter Irish, but I'm a mongrel who's a mix of everything, so I understand that the white nationalists hate me and the black BLM people hate me, and I don't fit in anywhere, and that's fine. 0.81

06:51:16.000 But as a man who's observed the world from all these various perspectives, there's a huge difference between Western white people and Eastern white people. 0.59

06:51:24.000 And what Western white people need to learn from Eastern white people is this. 0.71

06:51:27.000 Nick, you're white, and British and French and Spanish will be like, oh, we're white and blacks are coming to our country. 1.00

06:51:32.000 Go up to a Romanian and say, hey bro, where are you from? 0.99

06:51:35.000 You look Hungarian.

06:51:37.000 To you, that doesn't make any difference.

06:51:39.000 They will try to punch you in the face.

06:51:41.000 They have this nationalism where, go to a Serb and say, bro, you from Bosnia?

06:51:45.000 You Albanian?

06:51:48.000 Albanians, it's Kosovo, part of Serbia.

06:51:50.000 They will lose their fucking minds, right?

06:51:52.000 Eastern white people have this, like I was saying about these thick cultures and these traditions.

06:51:59.000 They're not just a bunch of white people who can be replaced by black people.

06:52:02.000 Polish people are Polish people and they don't want Romanians in their country. 1.00

06:52:05.000 Romania has a border with Bulgarians.

06:52:07.000 How many Bulgarians have you ever seen in this country in 10 years?

06:52:10.000 Zero! 0.90

06:52:11.000 Because they can't fucking stand each other.

06:52:12.000 No, we're Latins, you're Slavs. 0.62

06:52:14.000 To you, guys, I completely get it.

06:52:16.000 They look the same.

06:52:17.000 They look the same to me.

06:52:18.000 They've got some of the same last names and some of the same traditions, etc.

06:52:21.000 But here, they're extremely very different.

06:52:23.000 I think the West needs to bring this back, because before we start looking at things... I'll speak as a British man for a moment.

06:52:28.000 Before we start looking at things of, oh, well, he's black, he's white, it's fine to be here. 0.70

06:52:32.000 No!

06:52:32.000 Why the fuck should the French be allowed to be here?

06:52:35.000 This is England.

06:52:35.000 In fact, when the Eurotunnel was being built, everyone forgets this because it was lost just one and a half, two generations ago.

06:52:41.000 When the Eurotunnel was being built underneath the English Channel, there were protests from old white men who fought in World War II, holding picket signs saying, no, let's not connect our continent with France.

06:52:51.000 Because if we connect our continent with France and they surrender to the Germans again, the Germans can march over, or even worse, the French could invade us like they tried to do in 1815. 0.80

06:52:58.000 There was this old-school, we're British, they're French nationalism that I think the Western white people need to bring back, because that's the first step of loving and respecting your country.

06:53:10.000 Yeah, but they can't.

06:53:11.000 The problem with that is that... It's interesting.

06:53:15.000 I guess what I'm going to deduce from what you just said, though, Do we agree that if America had a country that was all 100% white, that there'd be new divides driven, drawn somehow? 0.68

06:53:27.000 That there'd be, oh, well, yeah, but you're Northern, I'm Southern, or you're Blue Eye, I'm Brown Eye.

06:53:33.000 Aren't humans just determined to constantly go into smaller and smaller groups and just constantly dislike and distrust the other groups?

06:53:40.000 That's a great point.

06:53:42.000 Romania has three or four groups itself.

06:53:44.000 Yeah, but we talk about the West and, you know, white people in the West, etc.

06:53:48.000 Only 50 years ago, the English hated the Irish.

06:53:51.000 They couldn't stand them.

06:53:52.000 If the Irish were in England, they were treated like dogs.

06:53:55.000 There were signs everywhere, no Irish.

06:53:58.000 Now, the English would do anything to be full of Irish. 1.00

06:54:01.000 So it's kind of just maybe human nature is to constantly divide into smaller and smaller and smaller groups unless you have some kind of unifying factor.

06:54:09.000 Then the real complicated question is what is that unifying factor?

06:54:11.000 Because the only thing I can think of in the world that exists today that unifies people is a huge and scary threat like Russia, like Iran, like Israel. 0.98

06:54:20.000 When they feel genuinely threatened, they can unify behind an ideal to protect themselves.

06:54:26.000 And they can ignore all the different cultural discrepancies to try and self-preserve.

06:54:31.000 Like the Russians do, like the Iranians do, like the North Koreans do. 1.00

06:54:35.000 Although they're all one race, it's a bad example. 1.00

06:54:37.000 But North Korea is kept together by the threat of the West. 0.71

06:54:41.000 That's the reason he's constantly talking on the news that America's gonna kill us all.

06:54:45.000 That's the way he maintains control.

06:54:47.000 That's how you maintain control is them versus us.

06:54:50.000 So I feel like perhaps if we had to try and fix the West somehow, you'd have to try and convince them there was a genuine threat that was coming to destroy them and try and unify everybody against it.

06:55:01.000 But that's the hard part, because especially in the West now, there'd be an X amount of the population who would be welcoming the threat in and saying it's a good idea for some reason.

06:55:09.000 It's difficult because everybody thinks so differently.

06:55:12.000 It's an interesting thought experiment.

06:55:13.000 I'm just trying to understand how the world is the way it is.

06:55:16.000 Well, it's happening now.

06:55:17.000 A lot of people from the left and the right, the first time that we're really agreeing on something major is the issue of Israel.

06:55:22.000 People see the debate stage, they see J.D.

06:55:24.000 Vance and Tim Walz get on stage, and immediately there's just a glaze-off for Israel. 0.98

06:55:28.000 Same thing, Trump right now.

06:55:29.000 Of course, a lot of us, we agree with Trump on quite a bit, but we're wondering, why do we see an equal amount of Israeli flags as American flags?

06:55:35.000 If you're going to talk about an existential threat that people are going to unite against, I think we're seeing it right now.

06:55:40.000 And I think you bring up a great point about the constant need to divide ourselves.

06:55:44.000 Because even up until maybe 60, 70 years ago, Irish people were drinking at the fountain with me and Jake and you and Andrew and Tristan.

06:55:50.000 Irish people were considered black too.

06:55:52.000 Italians were not considered the original white people.

06:55:55.000 I think the whites who founded America or the new America They considered white people back then to be people from the Slavic region, people from the Netherlands, and some people from the UK.

06:56:06.000 Whereas a lot of the other places, they weren't considered white either.

06:56:09.000 So naturally, we're always going to find ways and factions to divide ourselves.

06:56:12.000 If it became a strictly white country, immediately they would say, North and South is different.

06:56:17.000 They'd say, people from this region.

06:56:18.000 We're always going to find something.

06:56:20.000 We're very tribalistic as people.

06:56:22.000 The only unifying force that I've seen is the idea of God.

06:56:26.000 That's what was so great about Ye24 again.

06:56:28.000 When we all have this conversation, is what is going to get rid of all these problems that's destroying the West right now when it comes to feminism, when it comes to Zionism, when it comes to liberalism, is some sort of return to tradition, is some sort of religious doctrine.

06:56:42.000 Yeah, I don't know though.

06:56:43.000 I mean, the thing is about America, it's true.

06:56:46.000 I mean, America was basically a white racial country up until the 70s.

06:56:50.000 It was 90% white and it was a lot of Italians and a lot of Germans and a lot of English and French and a lot of different kinds of white people.

06:56:58.000 And you know, there certainly are differences between the kinds of whites and even like, for example, with Italians, there's people that came from Northern Italy and people that came from Southern Italy.

06:57:08.000 And there's people that came from Sicily and people that came from Calabria.

06:57:11.000 And there were differences even in Minnesota and in the Dakotas.

06:57:14.000 You have people from Sweden and people from Norway, and they had cultural differences up there.

06:57:20.000 But there's also this question of proximity.

06:57:24.000 There's obviously a much smaller difference between Finns and Swedes and Nords, or Norwegians, than there is between Norwegians and Nigerians, or Norwegians and Australian Aboriginals.

06:57:35.000 And that's just kind of the thing.

06:57:37.000 America was a certain way with white people. 0.88

06:57:40.000 You bring in a bunch of foreign-born people that don't speak English, have no history of democracy or anything that they had in Europe, Christendom, all those things. 1.00

06:57:48.000 It's going to be a radically different place.

06:57:51.000 I agree, though, with Andrew that, you know, America is an empire.

06:57:54.000 Let's just face it.

06:57:55.000 It's what it is.

06:57:57.000 The idea that it's a republic or a nation is very old school.

06:58:00.000 It's been an empire for about 100 years.

06:58:02.000 Russia is a multi-ethnic empire.

06:58:05.000 China's a multi-ethnic empire.

06:58:06.000 The biggest countries typically are.

06:58:08.000 The ones with the most land, because they have complicated histories and all kinds of things.

06:58:13.000 So, Russia does have a lot of Muslims.

06:58:15.000 It has a lot of Mongolians.

06:58:16.000 It has a lot of Asiatic-type people.

06:58:18.000 China has, like, four peripheral states.

06:58:21.000 It's got Uyghurs, Mongolians, Manchurians, all of that.

06:58:25.000 But there is an identity of the country.

06:58:28.000 When we think of China, we think of a Han Chinese person.

06:58:31.000 We don't think of East Turkistan.

06:58:33.000 We think of Russia, we think of the Slavs.

06:58:34.000 We think of Putin.

06:58:36.000 We don't necessarily think of the people in the Caucasus.

06:58:39.000 We don't think of the Muslims.

06:58:40.000 And I think the same can be said about America.

06:58:43.000 I think that that's how America was with whites and blacks. 0.97

06:58:46.000 You had whites, you had blacks, you had some Hispanics in the South, you had Asians in the West, and that was kind of the family.

06:58:54.000 But now the country is fundamentally changing where it's about half white, half non-white. 0.87

06:58:58.000 And the fundamental question is, well, who are we now?

06:59:02.000 Because now the people here, it is like a ton of Hispanics who got here within two or three generations. 1.00

06:59:08.000 They don't speak English.

06:59:09.000 They're forming ethnic enclaves.

06:59:11.000 They have different values.

06:59:12.000 And now here come the Asians. 1.00

06:59:14.000 Here come the Indians and the Chinese. 1.00

06:59:16.000 And it's like in 50 years when the population's 30%, 40% foreign born, first or second generation.

06:59:23.000 What are going to be the commonalities?

06:59:25.000 It's going to be different religions, languages, cultures, ethnic enclaves battling it out.

06:59:30.000 And that's where you almost need something like a segregation or a federalization, like an ethnic federalization, where you can still have a part of America that's white. 0.72

06:59:41.000 The American Southwest, arguably, you know, at one time it was a little white, but it was always pretty Hispanic.

06:59:47.000 OK, that's the Hispanic area.

06:59:49.000 And Miami.

06:59:50.000 Miami is like a Latin American island.

06:59:52.000 It's like a Caribbean country.

06:59:53.000 Okay, that's fine.

06:59:54.000 But we still need places in America where you can go where it's like it used to be, where it's baseball and apple pie and stuff like that.

07:00:02.000 And I think that's really the problem.

07:00:03.000 It's not even necessarily that it's becoming more diverse, but that it is the forced integration Which, and it's like Andrew said earlier, there are black neighborhoods in Chicago. 0.56

07:00:14.000 No one wants to go there.

07:00:15.000 And that way of life is perfectly maintained.

07:00:18.000 It's white areas that are being destroyed and eroded.

07:00:21.000 And the idea that, you know, if they, if we lose them here and they're losing them in Europe and Canada, where are we going to go?

07:00:27.000 It's going to be Asia, India, Mexico, Africa, everywhere in the world other than here. 1.00

07:00:32.000 Where's our homeland?

07:00:33.000 And so.

07:00:36.000 I think America's lost something very, very important.

07:00:39.000 And if we take England, for example, I'd start with the question, why would anybody want to be American? 0.57

07:00:46.000 I'm saying that right now.

07:00:47.000 This is 2024, right?

07:00:48.000 Let's take England as an example, because fundamentally, I'm English.

07:00:51.000 I grew up in England.

07:00:52.000 That's my country, right?

07:00:53.000 Immigration worked wonderfully once. 1.00

07:00:55.000 Once it worked wonderfully.

07:00:57.000 After World War II.

07:00:57.000 And I was tricking a friend of mine, Marcel, some black guy.

07:01:00.000 I said, well, your great-grandfather moved to England, didn't he?

07:01:03.000 He went, yeah.

07:01:03.000 I said, where did he move from?

07:01:04.000 He said, Jamaica.

07:01:05.000 I said, no, he didn't.

07:01:06.000 He moved to England from the British Empire.

07:01:08.000 The British Empire was everywhere.

07:01:10.000 Jamaica, India, etc.

07:01:11.000 And all the immigrants, I have to say, who came over after World War II, started shops, businesses, became lawyers, doctors, bankers.

07:01:18.000 It's where this myth comes from, where when you see a boat full of brown people, oh, they're doctors and engineers and lawyers.

07:01:23.000 No, no, no, no, no.

07:01:24.000 They're Indians from the British Empire.

07:01:27.000 were coming over to become doctors and lawyers.

07:01:29.000 The Jamaicans from the British Empire came over to run shops and food restaurants, etc, etc, and work jobs and become electricians.

07:01:36.000 When you took the British Empire away, and you took the love for all things British and the flag and the crown away, and you start letting black and brown people in from the same countries, India and Jamaica, from the same countries, but one and a half generations separated for their love of all things British, Suddenly, it's a big stab fest where Jamaicans are cutting each other up and slitting their throats in London instead of opening fast food businesses. 0.99

07:02:00.000 So, in 2024, I'll ask you as an American, why would anyone want to be American?

07:02:06.000 Because I get it in the 1930s, 40s, America's the hero of the world, they saved the world from Nazism, etc, etc.

07:02:12.000 All the Italians are coming over, everyone's coming over to America to integrate, to be American, to live the American dream. 0.83

07:02:17.000 I feel like without The American version of the crown, like we once had, that made people aspire to want to be British.

07:02:24.000 People coming over to America to see it as some bitch to be exploited. 1.00

07:02:26.000 They're not thinking, I want to be a part of this.

07:02:29.000 And why should people want to be a part of it?

07:02:31.000 I guess my question to you.

07:02:32.000 Well, everyone's just chasing money in America.

07:02:34.000 That's what I said earlier.

07:02:35.000 Everyone's just going there for money.

07:02:36.000 And that means you're trying to extract.

07:02:39.000 I mean, you have to build to make money, but truthfully, you're trying to extract, especially if you're going to send it home to your home country.

07:02:44.000 I'm just trying to rack my brain and try to work out what can unify people behind an idea besides war.

07:02:49.000 Because Iran feels threatened because of war, and Russia feels threatened because of war.

07:02:53.000 So I'm sitting there thinking, if I had to fix America, what could I unify people behind?

07:02:57.000 I use Dubai as an example.

07:02:58.000 It's not a completely fair example, because it only has 5 million people, and America has 400 million.

07:03:02.000 So it probably wouldn't work when you extrapolate it out.

07:03:04.000 But One thing Dubai does have is, because it does have unifying factors, Dubai is 80% immigrants, all different religions, all different colors, from all different parts of the world, and a lot of it is third world as well. 0.80

07:03:17.000 And it's still extremely safe, even though you have third worlders there. 1.00

07:03:21.000 What unifies people?

07:03:22.000 Well, we can talk about the fact that people want money, but That's the same reason they go to America.

07:03:26.000 You can talk about the fact that people earn more money than they do at home, and that's the same as America. 0.53

07:03:30.000 But I feel like Dubai has one other thing.

07:03:32.000 The state religion and the native populace are respected and feared.

07:03:37.000 And I feel that's the one thing America does not have.

07:03:40.000 You do not go to Dubai and insult Islam, and you also don't go to Dubai and insult the Arabs.

07:03:45.000 Ever.

07:03:45.000 In fact, if you get in a car crash and you hit an Arab, it was your fault, no matter what.

07:03:51.000 You did it.

07:03:52.000 So maybe if America just had Enforced respect for the state religion.

07:03:57.000 A two-tier system.

07:03:58.000 Well, to a degree, it's a two-tiered system.

07:04:00.000 Correct.

07:04:00.000 It's a two-tiered system, but it works.

07:04:02.000 But in America, you can't do that.

07:04:04.000 You're saying you don't have to respect our religion and you don't have to respect our native populace.

07:04:08.000 Can that even ever function long-term to invite all these different people that nothing can unify them?

07:04:13.000 You can't fight any cause they'll unify behind besides literally nuclear war.

07:04:18.000 Even then, even in the state of nuclear war, if America got hit with a nuke, Americans would turn on each other.

07:04:23.000 It'd be rioting.

07:04:24.000 Five seconds.

07:04:25.000 So nothing can unify Americans.

07:04:26.000 It's going to get me some Nikes.

07:04:27.000 It's going to get me some.

07:04:28.000 Nothing can unify them at all.

07:04:31.000 And I'm saying that if you're going to try and have that population, which is so diverse, and you're not even going to enforce respect for the state religion and the native populace, then how can it even function?

07:04:39.000 Can it ever work?

07:04:42.000 I don't know.

07:04:42.000 That's what they do in, like, Singapore and the Emirates and these, like, rich city-states.

07:04:46.000 They have carefully managed the demographics, and there is a certain primacy afforded to the native people, you know.

07:04:54.000 And in America, I'd be fine with something like that, and it wouldn't even necessarily come with more or less rights, but just a recognition of, like, this is what America is, and other people can be here, but they're not going to fundamentally change the identity in the same way that You know, in Russia, they're never going to take away the Russian Orthodox Church.

07:05:10.000 They're never going to take away the love of being Slavic or Slavic culture.

07:05:14.000 People can be there.

07:05:15.000 They could have their own regions with some autonomy.

07:05:17.000 I think people would be fine with that in America.

07:05:20.000 But the problem is that, you know, it's like you said, it's the opposite.

07:05:23.000 There's a hatred that people come here, say they come here to take advantage of The benefits of citizenship while hating the founders and saying, oh, the founders were slave owners.

07:05:35.000 This is an imperial empire.

07:05:36.000 They're all pieces of shit.

07:05:37.000 They want to recolonize or uncolonize or undo the settlement that we put here.

07:05:43.000 And that's really the problem.

07:05:44.000 I think I speak for a lot of white people when I say if there was a ton of diversity, but the minorities were grateful.

07:05:51.000 I'm talking about the foreign born, not the descendants of slaves, necessarily, although they should be grateful, too, because they're not in Africa. 1.00

07:05:57.000 But if the foreign-born came here and they were grateful and they were respectful and there was a sense of deference because they're guests or visitors or new, there'd be far less of a problem.

07:06:07.000 It's that they come here, they burn the flag, they don't say the Pledge of Allegiance.

07:06:11.000 And I've seen it in Chicago.

07:06:13.000 Chicago was never a Mexican city.

07:06:15.000 Now it's a third Mexican. 1.00

07:06:17.000 They don't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

07:06:19.000 They don't learn to speak English.

07:06:21.000 When it's Mexican Independence Day, like it was a week ago, they take over the city with their celebrations.

07:06:26.000 It goes all night.

07:06:27.000 They jam up the traffic.

07:06:28.000 They're shooting people on the bridge.

07:06:30.000 And white people go, hey, what the fuck?

07:06:32.000 Get out.

07:06:33.000 Like, you're a guest and you're being rude.

07:06:35.000 And it wasn't like that a hundred years ago.

07:06:37.000 Europeans have come here and kissed the ground when they got off the fucking boats because they were grateful to be here.

07:06:43.000 And that's the equation.

07:06:44.000 If there's going to be harmony, that's the equation that needs to change.

07:06:48.000 And people say, I'm Mexican, I'm Italian.

07:06:51.000 That's how I feel about the founding stock.

07:06:54.000 And when my ancestors came here, they assimilated.

07:06:57.000 They didn't go and live in enclaves where they only speak Italian and so on.

07:07:02.000 You learn to speak English.

07:07:03.000 They lost the accent.

07:07:04.000 They love the flag.

07:07:05.000 They fought in the war.

07:07:06.000 They gave their lives for the country.

07:07:08.000 And you just can't have that when they're coming in 10 million in four years.

07:07:13.000 Who's ever going to assimilate or love the country?

07:07:16.000 And it's like you said, who's coming here?

07:07:18.000 It's people looking to take advantage.

07:07:19.000 And those people never be loyal Americans.

07:07:23.000 So it's a lot of good observations.

07:07:25.000 It's a complicated problem.

07:07:26.000 It's not as simple as whites only, everyone out. 0.98

07:07:29.000 It's a complex problem.

07:07:31.000 It definitely is a complex issue, but I think a good example of how this could work is a nation like Bosnia.

07:07:36.000 Bosnia is, although it's predominantly Muslim, it's got to be 99% white.

07:07:41.000 And when I was there, I spent, I went three times in about a month because nobody looked at me as if I was an other.

07:07:46.000 As soon as I said, salam alaikum, they said, walaikum salam.

07:07:49.000 They looked at me as if I was one of them because that always would transcend it.

07:07:53.000 Like, if you have immigration, you can't go there and break the law.

07:07:56.000 But this nation here, although it's predominantly white, what supersedes that is faith. 0.86

07:08:02.000 The reason for that... I don't know, am I cutting out?

07:08:05.000 No, you're good.

07:08:07.000 I'm good?

07:08:07.000 Sorry.

07:08:09.000 The reason for that is because you're so rare.

07:08:13.000 If a million Arabs turned up in Bosnia, the Bosnians would have a problem with that.

07:08:21.000 I personally do.

07:08:22.000 And it's not just that.

07:08:23.000 The point Andrew was making earlier about an existential threat to your existence unifying countries together.

07:08:29.000 They don't see you as an existential threat, Sneko, but there are Bosnians to this day with guns hidden underground thinking that any day now the Serbs are going to roll across their border and exterminate them.

07:08:39.000 They're held together in the same way North Korea is, that Russia is, that Iran is. 0.92

07:08:43.000 I mean, you've spent some time in Bosnia.

07:08:45.000 More time than me, technically, but I have a lot of Bosnian friends.

07:08:48.000 They are held together by this existential threat of, they're going to wipe us out.

07:08:52.000 So when you're there, as a Muslim, you're not the face of what's scary to them.

07:08:57.000 But Andrew's right.

07:08:58.000 If 20,000 Arabs moved there, or 20,000 people who look like you moved there, they would see you as a threat. 0.79

07:09:04.000 Their threat, their people they're afraid of, look just like them, but worship a different god. 0.99

07:09:09.000 There also isn't many.

07:09:11.000 A lot of people think that, you know, white people or Western people are inherently racist.

07:09:17.000 They're really not.

07:09:18.000 They just get pissed off when the numbers get distorted.

07:09:21.000 I can talk from personal experience.

07:09:22.000 Let me tell you about Romania.

07:09:23.000 I moved to Romania 10 years ago.

07:09:24.000 When I moved here, there was nobody who wasn't Romanian.

07:09:28.000 Nobody.

07:09:29.000 Everyone was Romanian.

07:09:31.000 And back then, they were intrigued and amazed.

07:09:34.000 In fact, they were They loved that I liked their country.

07:09:38.000 They were super welcoming.

07:09:40.000 Why did you come here?

07:09:41.000 Wow, nobody likes Romania.

07:09:44.000 I love that you love it here.

07:09:45.000 Try some food.

07:09:47.000 They were super welcoming.

07:09:48.000 Now, as time goes on, more and more people are coming here.

07:09:51.000 Romanians are starting to get racist. 0.56

07:09:53.000 Why?

07:09:54.000 I don't think they've ever been different.

07:09:56.000 They're just seeing more and more people that aren't them.

07:09:59.000 And now they're getting pissed off about it.

07:10:01.000 When it was only me, it was fine.

07:10:03.000 But when there's a whole bunch, then they get angry.

07:10:06.000 And I think that's human nature.

07:10:08.000 I don't think that these people have changed from non-racist to racist.

07:10:11.000 They just see their demographic changing.

07:10:14.000 And people are naturally unhappy with that.

07:10:17.000 I don't see why they shouldn't be.

07:10:18.000 The reason that they get that way is because the people that are coming in, you both pointed out properly, I mean, because they're coming in, they're not respecting it.

07:10:24.000 They're not coming in with the idea of God.

07:10:27.000 They're not acting with godly values.

07:10:28.000 They're coming just to use the place.

07:10:30.000 And you brought up the example in Bosnia, if there were 20,000 Arabs that came in, they would feel differently.

07:10:35.000 They actually did.

07:10:36.000 During the Bosnian genocide in the early 90s, Arabs came to help fight the war against the Serbs.

07:10:42.000 So that's a good example that although Serbs and Bosnians are technically of the same ethnicity within that war, There was more unity between the Muslims there and the Arabs there.

07:10:52.000 They didn't even speak the language.

07:10:53.000 They came to fight there just because they saw that the genocide was about faith and it wasn't about ethnicity.

07:10:58.000 Yeah, but we also want to be with people that that we're similar to, you know, like when you were defending the Haitians, you were doing, I don't know, you're speaking Haitian or something, Haitian Creole or something.

07:11:09.000 And I'm sure that when you're with your parents, your extended family, you know, you have this vibe.

07:11:14.000 of like a family party and you do things the way Haitians do or Philippines do or Hungarians do or 0.81

07:11:18.000 whatever it is. In the same way that me, you know, my mom's Italian, she was in an Italian

07:11:23.000 neighborhood, all her friends are Italian. There's like Italian stuff that we do. It's like who we

07:11:28.000 are. And if I were separated from that forever, if I were in a community where it's all people

07:11:33.000 like you, no offense, I like you, you're a good guy, but you're not like me in those critical

07:11:39.000 ways. I'd be a stranger, I'd be a foreigner. The things, the way you guys do things, that's not

07:11:43.000 It's not the way I would do things.

07:11:44.000 They're unfamiliar to me.

07:11:47.000 There's something, like, heartbreaking about that.

07:11:49.000 There's something heartbreaking about being dislocated in that way.

07:11:52.000 I think that's a big reason why white people are killing themselves.

07:11:55.000 Because they're socially dislocated.

07:11:58.000 When you look at, like, all these other peoples, they have, they take immense pride in their ethnic food, celebrations, language, culture.

07:12:04.000 There's a real sense of family.

07:12:06.000 Even if they're poor, even if they're low IQ, they, they're down to party.

07:12:10.000 And they're party with all their abuelas and their cousins and all that kind of stuff.

07:12:15.000 I'm partially Mexican.

07:12:16.000 We do it too.

07:12:17.000 It's a picnic.

07:12:17.000 It's a big picnic with Mexicans.

07:12:19.000 That's what we do.

07:12:21.000 Go ahead.

07:12:22.000 Nick, Jake, Andrew, Tristan.

07:12:24.000 It's about that time, man.

07:12:25.000 I gotta get to catch some Z's, but... Alright, we didn't get Myron on. 0.69

07:12:29.000 I just saw the chat asking for Myron.

07:12:31.000 Next time, let's get Myron in.

07:12:33.000 Andrew, I love you and I miss you, honey buns.

07:12:35.000 And Tristan, you know it's all love, too.

07:12:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

07:12:39.000 Why do you make everything gay, bro? 0.96

07:12:41.000 Why can't it just be on some brother shit?

07:12:45.000 Andrew, can me and Sneeko come to Romania?

07:12:48.000 Perhaps.

07:12:50.000 I don't know.

07:12:50.000 Sneeko called me a Jew, so I mean, I know he thinks Strickland can't knock him out, but he doesn't really want my smoke.

07:12:55.000 We'll see.

07:12:57.000 It wasn't Jew as an insult.

07:12:59.000 It was the idea of supremacy, but I understand that.

07:13:01.000 Hey, you are a Jew. 0.99

07:13:02.000 Yeah.

07:13:03.000 Hey, and if you come here, I'm going to tell the cops it was all you.

07:13:05.000 The human trafficking operation was all your idea. 0.62

07:13:07.000 The Jews did it! 1.00

07:13:09.000 The Jews did it! 1.00

07:13:11.000 Oh, I got to go.

07:13:11.000 The group chat's calling me now, so.

07:13:13.000 I'm a Jew.

07:13:15.000 Alright guys, so long.

07:13:20.000 Alright.

07:13:23.000 Well, am I still even doing a stream?

07:13:27.000 I forgot I was on a stream.

07:13:30.000 Doing my own stream.

07:13:31.000 What's up guys?

07:13:32.000 How was that?

07:13:33.000 This is the longest show ever.

07:13:37.000 I've been streaming for seven hours.

07:13:39.000 What the heck?

07:13:41.000 I thought a debate would, but it was good, but it was, I'm not complaining.

07:13:44.000 Hey, I'm not complaining, but it was good.

07:13:47.000 That was, what do you think of the stream?

07:13:49.000 Legendary show started with a monologue, epic monologue, then a debate, then epic legendary panel.

07:13:57.000 Tate brothers, Aiden Ross, Sneeko, Jake, the Asian guy whose name I forgot, me.

07:14:05.000 Epic, legendary stream.

07:14:07.000 Now people are saying Super Chats.

07:14:09.000 Fuck no.

07:14:10.000 The last thing that we need to ruin the stream is Super Chats.

07:14:13.000 We had a good stream with good segments.

07:14:15.000 Now we're going to do that?

07:14:17.000 We're going to hear about the Yankees and people calling me fat?

07:14:22.000 I don't think so.

07:14:24.000 Kevin, they say.

07:14:25.000 Kevin's his name.

07:14:27.000 All right.

07:14:27.000 Well, that's the stream.

07:14:29.000 Look, I hope you enjoyed because that's it.

07:14:31.000 I'm done.

07:14:32.000 I'm tired.

07:14:32.000 If you send a Super Chat, I'll read it tomorrow.

07:14:35.000 I'm going to bed.

07:14:36.000 It's way past my bedtime.

07:14:38.000 I'm starving.

07:14:39.000 I didn't even eat anything today, other than four chicken tenders.

07:14:43.000 So, I'm going to eat my bag of Cheetos.

07:14:47.000 I'm going to eat.

07:14:48.000 I don't know.

07:14:49.000 Maybe I'll just go to bed on an empty stomach, but whatever.

07:14:51.000 It doesn't matter.

07:14:52.000 But that's going to do it for me.

07:14:54.000 Epic stream.

07:14:55.000 Thanks, Aiden Ross.

07:14:56.000 Thanks, Andrew and Tristan Tate.

07:14:58.000 Sneeko, Dean, fucking bitch. 1.00

07:15:01.000 That guy was a pussy. 1.00

07:15:03.000 I like Andrew Tate called him out.

07:15:04.000 I was trying to be nice and friendly, but Andrew Tate came in, put him in his place.

07:15:09.000 That was epic.

07:15:10.000 Great stream.

07:15:11.000 A lot of fun.

07:15:12.000 If you're new here, follow me.

07:15:14.000 Follow me here on Rumble.

07:15:16.000 I'm on the air every Monday through Friday at 8 o'clock central.

07:15:19.000 I do a show.

07:15:21.000 So make sure to follow me on Rumble to get a push notification when I go live.

07:15:25.000 It's great stuff.

07:15:25.000 I think I make some pretty good points.

07:15:27.000 People were loving the stuff.

07:15:29.000 Aiden Ross's fans were loving this stuff.

07:15:31.000 The world's not ready for a mainstream groiper. 0.99

07:15:34.000 A mainstream groiping. 0.87

07:15:36.000 But that's all I got for you tonight.

07:15:38.000 So tune in tomorrow at 8 o'clock.

07:15:41.000 Smash the like button, leave a comment.

07:15:43.000 Thanks to our Super Chatters tonight.

07:15:45.000 Like I said, I'll get to these tomorrow because I'm... Look, I'm pooped.

07:15:50.000 Poop.

07:15:51.000 Okay, it's over for me tonight.

07:15:54.000 But that's what, that's all we're gonna do.

07:15:57.000 Special thanks to A$AP Groyper, Slavik Lukovic, Cajun Norman, Gingerbread Groyper.

07:16:03.000 Big thank you to them.

07:16:04.000 Thanks to all our Super Chatters, everybody that watches the show, we love you.

07:16:08.000 I will see you tomorrow.

07:16:09.000 Until then, have a great rest of your evening.

07:16:12.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!

07:16:19.000 It's going to be only America first. 0.99

07:16:24.000 America first.

07:16:28.000 The American people will come first once again.

07:16:54.000 America First!

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - October 03, 2024

ULTIMATE REDPILL STREAM??? Feat. Andrew Tate, Adin Ross, Sneako | America First Ep. 1398

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