America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - untitled | America First Ep. 816

00:00:00.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

00:00:07.000 It's going to be only America first.

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00:00:16.000 The American people will come first once again. 1.00

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00:03:16.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:03:18.000 We're watching America First.

00:03:19.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:03:21.000 We have a great show for you tonight.

00:03:23.000 Very excited to be back with you here tonight on Tuesday.

00:03:28.000 And in case you're just joining us, I have just finished my debate with Robert Barnes tonight on Infowars on the Israeli Palestinian conflict, moderated by Alex Jones.

00:03:41.000 A lot of fun.

00:03:42.000 It was, what, about an hour and a half, something like that?

00:03:45.000 Hour and a half, hour and 45 minutes.

00:03:49.000 Frankly, We did win this debate.

00:03:52.000 We won the debate easily.

00:03:55.000 You know, not going to lie, with this one, I got a little bit nervous.

00:04:01.000 See, this is why I'm the best.

00:04:02.000 I strive for excellence, I strive for perfection.

00:04:06.000 By the way, okay, so if you're just joining us, we've been planning this for a long time.

00:04:12.000 If you've seen the show at any point in the past week, I've been promoting this, hyping this up to set the stage a little bit here.

00:04:19.000 So I was supposed to debate Dave Rubin, or I challenged him.

00:04:23.000 Dave Rubin to a debate on the Israeli Palestinian conflict last week because he was arguing with Lauren Chen, otherwise known as Roaming Millennial, on Twitter.

00:04:34.000 And I jumped in and I said, I'll debate you on Israel Palestine.

00:04:37.000 And he blocked me.

00:04:39.000 I got about 5,000, 6,000 likes on a tweet saying, at Rubin Report, debate me on Israel Palestine.

00:04:45.000 Let's have a battle of ideas.

00:04:47.000 And he blocked me.

00:04:49.000 So Robert Barnes, who's a constitutional lawyer, a prominent conservative pundit, He challenged me to a debate and said, Oh, Dave Rubin won't debate you, but I will.

00:05:00.000 And he said, We should do it on Infowars.

00:05:02.000 So we set it up.

00:05:03.000 We just got done with it.

00:05:04.000 We just had it.

00:05:05.000 And like I said, you know, I was preparing for this debate.

00:05:09.000 And for the record, I've done this debate many times.

00:05:12.000 I think the first time I did this debate was against Aaron Bandler, who was a writer for Daily Wire.

00:05:19.000 And I did that on a live stream with him years ago.

00:05:22.000 I think I still have a copy of that debate, but it's not on the internet anywhere.

00:05:27.000 But that was the first time I did it.

00:05:28.000 I debated, I think, maybe Will Nardi, although I'm pretty sure the next time I did it was with Will Chamberlain on Israel.

00:05:38.000 I debated Jacob Wall on Israel.

00:05:41.000 I debated Arthur Shopper, Paul's the English.

00:05:45.000 I'm wondering if there's a few others.

00:05:48.000 But in short, I've debated this issue like five, six, seven times over the past few years.

00:05:54.000 And so I know this subject pretty well.

00:05:56.000 I'm not the most well versed in it.

00:05:59.000 And every aspect of it, every facet of the issue.

00:06:02.000 But I've done the debate where I'm pretty familiar with the main arguments for and against various components of it.

00:06:09.000 And this time around, I was like, oh boy, Robert Barnes, prominent lawyer, older guy.

00:06:16.000 I'm like, oh my gosh, am I going to come into this debate and think, I don't know what I'm getting myself into?

00:06:23.000 But I was preparing for the debate and I went through a few of his videos where he talks about Israel Palestine in the past week or so.

00:06:32.000 And I'm going through the debate, and I'm like, really?

00:06:34.000 This is it?

00:06:35.000 I mean, because I'm just hearing the same arguments, and I put it on Twitter.

00:06:38.000 It was just a little banter.

00:06:40.000 But I put on Twitter, I said, you know, these are arguments that I was making in high school five, six years ago.

00:06:48.000 And obviously, I no longer feel that way because I've seen things that radically change that. 0.78

00:06:53.000 But it's the same textbook Israeli state propaganda, which is easily refuted, which comes out of like, I mean, these are literal like Zionist acts. 0.52

00:07:05.000 Who create these arguments in a think tank somewhere and peddle this out to the public and give these approved talking points to their proxies in media or politicians?

00:07:14.000 I'm like, this is really basic stuff.

00:07:17.000 So I thought, I don't know.

00:07:18.000 Are there going to be some surprises?

00:07:19.000 I did my due diligence.

00:07:20.000 I created a few research documents.

00:07:23.000 I put it all together.

00:07:24.000 And we go through the debate.

00:07:25.000 And honestly, it was kind of exactly what I expected.

00:07:29.000 And I will say, I like Robert Barnes.

00:07:32.000 And I said this on Twitter or something at some point that Robert Barnes was one of the main people covering the Stop the Steal election fraud in 2020.

00:07:43.000 I don't know if he was the most prominent, but he was putting out a lot of really good information at that time and wasn't a Opponent of the election fraud.

00:07:51.000 And, you know, that was, it feels like that was a long time ago.

00:07:54.000 That was like six months ago or so.

00:07:57.000 But I still look back on that and the significance of that moment in time.

00:08:01.000 And honestly, anybody that was on the right side of that issue is basically okay with me.

00:08:06.000 That carries a lot of weight with me.

00:08:08.000 If you were on the right side of Stop the Steal, if you were an activist, if you were on the front lines, and I don't know that Robert was literally in the streets, but he was putting out a lot of good information and a lot of good commentary.

00:08:20.000 If you were on the right side of that and you were doing everything you could to stop Trump from having the election stolen from him, to me that gives you a lot of credibility.

00:08:28.000 So I have a lot of respect for him for that, and same with Alex, of course.

00:08:32.000 But, you know, I was watching one of his streams from a couple of days ago, Robert Barnes, that is, where he was talking about the debate, and he was talking about me and the debate, and he basically insinuated that I'm like a Muslim Brotherhood operative.

00:08:49.000 You know, I'm glad he didn't bring that up in the debate, but.

00:08:52.000 I saw one of his shows yesterday or two days ago.

00:08:56.000 Him and his co host, who I think is like a Freemason or something, they were talking about the debate, and he said something to the effect of, well, I'm curious why he changed his mind.

00:09:06.000 He was a Zionist at one point, and then he had a change of heart, basically insinuating, like, and then he said, like, maybe he's getting paid by the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:09:15.000 Some people get paid, and they don't even know.

00:09:18.000 And then he said, oh, he said some very provocative things in the buildup to January 6th.

00:09:26.000 And then he wasn't in the Capitol.

00:09:28.000 It's like I was in D.C. on January 6th. 0.97

00:09:31.000 I could have been in the Capitol if I was stupid, you know, if I ran through the doors like other people and broke the law, I could have. 0.98

00:09:39.000 That's a possibility. 0.96

00:09:41.000 That was one, you know, in a multiverse of many different outcomes, there is a universe where I did something illegal.

00:09:48.000 I didn't, but that's not, you know, I was in the Capitol for the Save America rally on the ellipse, and I marched to the Capitol and I gave a big speech and everything, right?

00:09:59.000 So.

00:10:00.000 I hope, well, I don't know.

00:10:01.000 I don't really care, but maybe I hope that his opinion of me has changed because I said some nice things about him. 0.96

00:10:07.000 And then a couple of days ago, he was like, oh, well, I think he works for the Muslim Brotherhood and maybe he's a fad because he wasn't in the Capitol. 0.89

00:10:13.000 And anyway, so I don't know exactly how he feels about me. 0.90

00:10:17.000 Maybe he has some, maybe he feels differently now.

00:10:20.000 But that's the setup.

00:10:22.000 Like I said, I prepared for it and I came to the debate.

00:10:25.000 And honestly, it's like exactly what I expected.

00:10:27.000 And, you know, I watched his video a couple of days ago.

00:10:32.000 And what his argument amounted to was three main points, three main themes, which honestly, I didn't hear any of those tonight, which was kind of weird.

00:10:42.000 I don't know if that was a deliberate red herring, if he was playing mind games or something.

00:10:46.000 Maybe.

00:10:47.000 But I watched a video that he did last week, I think on May 17th, where he's talking about Israel Palestine.

00:10:55.000 And he made three main arguments.

00:10:56.000 And I broke down the whole video, watched the whole thing, took notes on it.

00:11:00.000 And his first argument was that it's not about Palestine, it's about Arab nationalism.

00:11:05.000 And, you know, Look, frankly, I'm not saying this to be rude.

00:11:09.000 I'm just saying this as a sort of intense, analytical person.

00:11:14.000 Let's just say a little bit.

00:11:14.000 Like that.

00:11:15.000 I'm not saying this to be malicious or hurtful, but very repetitive in the debate and in this video.

00:11:21.000 And in this video that I watched, like I said from last week, one of the main points was that people aren't really pro Palestine, they're Arab nationalists.

00:11:31.000 These various state and non state actors don't really support the creation of a Palestinian state. 0.76

00:11:36.000 They're using this as an attack vector against Israel because they're Arab nationalists.

00:11:42.000 And he just kept saying that sort of like a.

00:11:45.000 Tautology.

00:11:47.000 Why are they in favor of Palestine? 0.96

00:11:49.000 Because they're Arab nationalists. 0.50

00:11:50.000 What is Arab nationalism? 0.92

00:11:52.000 They support Palestine. 0.52

00:11:54.000 You know, I mean, so he kept saying, well, what it's really about is that these pan Arabists, I guess, that's what I'm reading into it, pan Arab nationalists are trying to construct a pan Arab identity or something, and being against Israel is that contrast is what creates Arab identity. 0.87

00:12:16.000 They define an Arab identity against Israel.

00:12:20.000 Defining it in their shared opposition in the state of Israel because maybe there's not other things to unite around. 0.86

00:12:26.000 At least that was sort of my interpretation, was something to the effect that, you know, these various Muslim countries, they're not supporting Palestine because they really believe in the cause of Palestine, but they see that as a uniting jihad, a uniting cause to rally other states around. 0.76

00:12:46.000 Moreover, also because they just don't like Israel. 0.80

00:12:48.000 They don't necessarily like Palestine, they just hate Israel.

00:12:52.000 And that was like the main argument. 0.99

00:12:54.000 And I was watching that and I'm thinking, okay, well, there's kind of a big problem because, like, all the Arabs have normalized relations with Israel. 0.63

00:13:01.000 Jordan and Egypt have normalized relations with Israel. 0.80

00:13:05.000 Saudi Arabia and Bahrain have normalized relations with Israel.

00:13:10.000 And Iraq is occupied by America, which is an ally of Israel.

00:13:14.000 And so, where exactly are the Arabs that are against Israel, other than the Palestinian Arabs themselves, and to some extent the Lebanese, and maybe to some extent the Syrians? 0.50

00:13:26.000 But you run into this problem of the chief antagonist against Israel is Iran, which is not ethnically Arab, it's ethnically Persian.

00:13:34.000 They don't speak Arabic, they're not Arab, they're Persian.

00:13:37.000 They speak Farsi.

00:13:38.000 So, you know, I'm surprised that that didn't come up in the debate because I went back and watched his video on the subject and he talked for like 20 minutes Arab nationalism, Arab nationalism.

00:13:49.000 And I'm thinking, what is it?

00:13:50.000 What are you talking about?

00:13:52.000 And then, of course, another big theme was, well, and why are the Arab nationalists against Israel? 0.94

00:13:58.000 Because they hate Jews, they're just anti Semitic. 0.73

00:14:00.000 It all came, and this is, you know, surprise, surprise. 0.94

00:14:03.000 It always comes back to everyone's just anti Semitic.

00:14:07.000 And why are they anti Semitic?

00:14:09.000 For no reason.

00:14:10.000 They're anti Semitic for no reason. 0.92

00:14:12.000 The Arabs support Palestine for Arab nationalism. 0.79

00:14:17.000 They support Arab nationalism as the answer to the Israeli Jewish occupation of Palestine. 0.67

00:14:25.000 Why do they oppose Jews in the Middle East? 0.83

00:14:29.000 Because they're anti Semitic.

00:14:30.000 Why are they anti Semitic? 0.99

00:14:31.000 Because they just are.

00:14:32.000 I mean, and that's ultimately where it all goes.

00:14:34.000 Why are they anti Semitic? 0.88

00:14:36.000 Well, they just are. 0.99

00:14:36.000 Why do they behave in the way that they do? 0.99

00:14:38.000 Well, they just do.

00:14:39.000 It's based on prejudice for no reason. 0.66

00:14:43.000 And then another theme in his coverage was Arab nationalism, anti Semitism, Palestine isn't real as a state.

00:14:50.000 That's another one you hear all the time.

00:14:52.000 There's no such thing as Palestine.

00:14:53.000 That's not a country. 0.99

00:14:54.000 It's a contrived identity created in response to Zionism in the 20th century, which is like, no shit. 0.99

00:15:00.000 Zionism is a contrived identity. 0.98

00:15:02.000 Zionism was born in 1897. 0.99

00:15:05.000 Well, Palestine never existed until Israel did. 0.78

00:15:08.000 Okay, well, Israel existed like 20 years before the Mandate of Palestine and the Palestinians created their identity after they were freed from the Ottoman Turks and in response to Jewish settlement of Muslim Arab lands. 0.56

00:15:24.000 Like, hello.

00:15:25.000 So that didn't really make much sense. 0.82

00:15:27.000 And then the final one was well, Israel is always retaliating and responding, never initiating. 0.70

00:15:33.000 And then that begs the question well, you know, if Israel's always on the defensive, why are Arabs always on the offensive? 0.81

00:15:39.000 Because they're herb nationalists, and because they just hate Jews for no reason. 0.77

00:15:43.000 It's not in response to Jewish behavior. 0.89

00:15:45.000 It's not in response to Jewish settlement. 0.75

00:15:46.000 It's not in response to Jewish atrocities or Jewish provocations.

00:15:50.000 Just blind hatred, you know, just irrational.

00:15:54.000 And so I saw that video, and it was kind of interesting because that was really more the debate that I had prepared for, addressing those main points.

00:16:02.000 But I got a different debate, you know, right out of the gate, his opening statement, which I thought was very strategic.

00:16:08.000 His opening statement was, well, My argument in this debate is that I believe in the Donald Trump policy.

00:16:16.000 And I go, okay, so it's a meta debate now.

00:16:18.000 What do I mean by that?

00:16:20.000 Well, he starts off the debate and frames it as well, me, being the Zionist, being the pro Israel guy, being the pro Israel competitor or debater, well, I'm arguing that I think Donald Trump did the right thing and Donald Trump's brilliant strategy.

00:16:36.000 Donald Trump, nobody gets it, but I do as a Zionist.

00:16:40.000 And what I mean by there's a meta debate is he's obviously framing there very deliberately.

00:16:46.000 And this is something that's crucial about debates and these kinds of contests what is the purpose of the debate?

00:16:52.000 Is the purpose of the debate to discover truth?

00:16:54.000 No.

00:16:55.000 The purpose of the debate, ostensibly, why you're having this, is so that each side can make the case, argue for what they believe, or even if they don't believe it, argue the side of the issue.

00:17:07.000 So the purpose of the debate is not to get to the bottom of the truth, investigation, research, That is trying to get to the bottom of something.

00:17:16.000 A debate is about presenting two opposing sides clashing, and the real purpose is so that the audience, so that observers can see and evaluate which is the more compelling argument.

00:17:28.000 Research, investigation, that kind of thing, that's a fact finding mission, that's a truth finding mission.

00:17:34.000 A debate, whether or not the debaters believe what they're saying, is about throwing ideas up against each other and, moreover, trying to convince the people that are watching the debate that their argument is right, their interpretation is true.

00:17:48.000 And so, it's in the context of that that the debate is being had, not merely about the substance of the debate itself.

00:17:54.000 When I say it's a meta debate tactic, it's being aware of who is watching the debate and what their prejudices are and what they believe.

00:18:02.000 So, when he comes out there and frames it as, well, I'm the Zionist or I support Donald Trump, who's watching the Infowars debate at 6 o'clock on a Tuesday night except for Trump supporters?

00:18:14.000 Trump supporters, boomers, you know, regular conservative types. 0.59

00:18:18.000 So, he comes out of the gate and says, well, the Zionist position is a Trump position. 0.98

00:18:22.000 And I support that. 0.80

00:18:23.000 I do not support the position of the radical left and the squad and AOC.

00:18:29.000 And it's like, okay, so you're really not arguing the substance of the position.

00:18:34.000 I mean, he is, but sort of shoehorning in these associations to sort of create this bias.

00:18:43.000 You know, well, people that like Trump are going to be more amenable to what you're about to say because, well, what you're about to say is defending the guy that they like.

00:18:52.000 A Trump supporter watching the debate.

00:18:54.000 Is going to get that seed planted.

00:18:56.000 It's seeding that, well, this is the Trump position, and I like Trump, so I'm biased in favor of this position.

00:19:02.000 It's kind of a look, it's fair, it's rhetorical, that's the purpose of a debate. 0.63

00:19:07.000 But he comes right out of the gate, very different from what I saw on his show, and he says, Well, the Trump position is the Zionist position, and that's the position that I have. 0.55

00:19:16.000 And he said that, Well, Trump was playing Israel to fight Islamofascism.

00:19:23.000 He identifies in his opening statement that the threat to the West is Islamofascism, and therefore, it's not stated, but therefore, Islamofascism is a threat to America. 0.77

00:19:35.000 And so, if Israel's fighting Islamofascism, then that is the expression of the American interest that is served in supporting Israel. 0.79

00:19:43.000 But, and I think this is a critical thing, this presumes that Islamofascism is real, defined, and is a threat to America. 0.90

00:19:51.000 You know, his argument is well, I support the Donald Trump thing, and what's Donald Trump doing? 0.90

00:19:55.000 Donald Trump is using Israel, Israel's strategic location, Israel's opposition to Islam, and using Israeli intelligence. 0.80

00:20:06.000 And they are a proxy against America's enemy, which is Islamofascism. 0.70

00:20:11.000 And this begs a lot of questions, which is number one, what is Islamofascism? 0.78

00:20:16.000 Because, and I cornered him at one point in the debate.

00:20:19.000 I said, well, if the interest that Israel is serving is fighting Islamofascism, let's take it at face value as a hypothetical.

00:20:27.000 Well, why is it then that Trump also supported Saudi Arabia? 0.84

00:20:31.000 I mean, what exactly is Islamofascism? 0.97

00:20:34.000 I mean, let's assume it's Iran because Israel is. 0.96

00:20:38.000 You know, fighting against Iran and fighting against Palestinians or something. 0.94

00:20:41.000 And, okay. 0.63

00:20:44.000 So let's say that Hamas is Islamofascist and let's say that Iran is Islamofascist and these are the principal opponents of Israel in the Middle East. 0.70

00:20:51.000 Israel's fighting them. 0.72

00:20:53.000 You know, and let's just assume for the sake of the argument that that in some way benefits America, which we'll get into that in a moment. 0.97

00:21:01.000 But I said, okay, well, if Trump is using Israel to fight Islamofascism, then, you know, what about Saudi Arabia? 0.69

00:21:08.000 In what meaningful way is Saudi Arabia distinct from Iran? 0.76

00:21:13.000 As far as being Islamofascist goes, if we're supporting Saudi Arabia and they're on our side against Islamofascism, right? 0.56

00:21:22.000 So if there's this sort of demarcation between America, Israel, and our unstated other allies, which are Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, against Islamofascism, well, what's the meaningful thing that distinguishes our so called Islamofascist adversaries from Saudi Arabia?

00:21:39.000 And I asked that at one point. 0.55

00:21:40.000 I said, okay, well, you know, if Israel's fighting Iran, why are they fighting Iran with Saudi Arabia? 0.60

00:21:46.000 What's more, And this is getting into the next issue as far as Islamofascism goes, let's say for the sake of argument that, well, maybe they're both Islamofascist. 0.59

00:21:57.000 Maybe for whatever reason, Iran is and Saudi Arabia isn't Islamofascist.

00:22:01.000 Okay. 0.86

00:22:02.000 Well, then why is it that America has exclusively been attacked on American soil by Sunni Muslim terrorists sponsored by Saudi Arabia and in some cases, Israel, too? 0.68

00:22:15.000 You know, the people that flew the planes in the building were Al Qaeda, sponsored by, I mean, they came. 0.52

00:22:19.000 From Saudi Arabia.

00:22:20.000 They were Sunni, Wahhabist Muslims, and Israel had prior knowledge of 9 11.

00:22:26.000 What's more is that ISIS is a Sunni militant Islamist group that was born out of Wahhabi Islam from Saudi Arabia and with the backing of Israel, and they've been responsible for nearly all the terror attacks in America over the past five to 10 years.

00:22:43.000 So let's say, for the sake of argument, that Iran is Islamofascist and Saudi Arabia isn't.

00:22:49.000 Well, you know, that would be kind of a strange thing because our so called greatest enemy in the Middle East that is fighting against us is the side that has not attacked us on our own soil or at all in the last century, right, or the last two decades, or even at all.

00:23:06.000 Hezbollah has never attacked America, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas, you know, Assad, none of these institutions which represent Israel's adversaries in the Middle East have attacked Americans on American soil. 0.59

00:23:19.000 But our allies that are not Islamofascists have attacked us and they're Islamists. 0.75

00:23:25.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.71

00:23:27.000 But this gets to the bigger question, which is why exactly is Islamofascism a threat to the United States and what really is it? 0.97

00:23:34.000 If it's like Muslim theocracy, well, we're allied. 0.93

00:23:38.000 We're allied with one of the number one Muslim theocracies in Saudi Arabia. 0.89

00:23:43.000 Or how about Turkey? 0.97

00:23:44.000 Turkey is a borderline Islamic theocracy, borderline. 0.90

00:23:49.000 They're being Islamified by Erdogan and they're in NATO. 0.89

00:23:53.000 And how about Egypt, which is an American ally and recipient of foreign aid? 0.86

00:23:57.000 Are they not Islamist?

00:23:58.000 I mean, what do you call Muhammad Morsi?

00:24:00.000 And, you know, Al Sisi is not from the Muslim Brotherhood, but still, what do you call Pakistan, who is an ally of the United States?

00:24:07.000 What do you call a lot of these countries? 0.89

00:24:10.000 So there's no meaningful distinction between the adversaries of Israel and the allies of Israel or the United States on the basis of them being more Muslim or more fascistic. 0.54

00:24:20.000 That doesn't make any sense. 0.82

00:24:21.000 And then it begs the question well, what's the threat posed to America by Israel? 0.90

00:24:26.000 Islamofascism at all. 0.83

00:24:27.000 There isn't one. 0.99

00:24:29.000 There isn't one. 1.00

00:24:30.000 Excluding Muslim terrorists. 0.99

00:24:33.000 But these are people that are jihadists. 0.98

00:24:35.000 There's nothing.

00:24:36.000 I mean, these people are trying to cause terror in America to change American policy essentially in the Middle East. 0.99

00:24:44.000 Why do Muslim terror cells operate in the United States? 0.93

00:24:48.000 Typically, it's in retaliation for the American occupation of Middle Eastern countries, Muslim countries. 0.88

00:24:55.000 It's in retaliation for America's unconditional support for Israel, which is. 0.60

00:24:58.000 Creating atrocities in Lebanon, West Bank, Gaza Strip, elsewhere. 0.57

00:25:03.000 Or it's to influence broader American policy in the Middle East. 0.81

00:25:06.000 But it's not like people are blowing themselves up on a subway to create a fascist Muslim theocracy.

00:25:13.000 I mean, maybe they want that in some sense, but that doesn't achieve that.

00:25:17.000 The problem is not an ideology. 0.56

00:25:18.000 The problem is fanaticism from like, you know, fourth or what is it, fifth column actors in America. 0.99

00:25:26.000 That's a problem that's solved by immigration. 0.97

00:25:28.000 What's more, is that something that Israel really.

00:25:31.000 Is neutral on.

00:25:32.000 Israel supports certain Islamist groups, like, for example, the Kurds. 1.00

00:25:38.000 The Kurds are some of the most barbaric Muslims and the most violent Muslims in the Middle East, and they're terrorists. 0.99

00:25:43.000 What do you call the PKK and the Kurdish Workers' Party? 1.00

00:25:46.000 They're terrorists, and Israel supports them and the creation of their own state.

00:25:50.000 What kind of state do you think that would be? 0.82

00:25:51.000 Democratic? 0.96

00:25:52.000 Those people are like barbarians. 0.67

00:25:55.000 What's more, Israel supports Peshmerga, they support the moderate opposition in Syria, they basically supported ISIS. 0.65

00:26:01.000 They said tacitly at many times they prefer ISIS to Iran. 0.54

00:26:06.000 Okay, so, you know, once again, they prefer the actual Islamist threat to America as opposed to Iran, which is not a threat to America.

00:26:16.000 In what way, shape, and form is Iran a threat to America? 0.84

00:26:20.000 They want a nuclear arsenal. 0.82

00:26:21.000 Why? 0.54

00:26:22.000 Because Israel has one, not because America has one.

00:26:25.000 They want a nuclear arsenal to protect them from a war against them by America that Israel would instigate, as well as to create parity with Israel, which itself has a nuclear arsenal.

00:26:38.000 But they're not building nuclear weapons so that they can destroy America. 0.77

00:26:42.000 They're building it defensively against the Zionist war from America and to achieve parity with the Zionist state itself. 0.58

00:26:49.000 And, you know, so in short, I mean, that whole like, and that seemed to be the main theme throughout the debate was this Islamo fascism, Islamo fascism. 0.57

00:26:57.000 And, you know, a big part of my evolution on the issue is realizing, like, you know, that's just not real.

00:27:05.000 You know, I mean, don't get me wrong. 0.86

00:27:06.000 There are Muslims in the world. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Muslims in the world don't like us. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Muslims in the world maybe dream of global domination. 0.96

00:27:15.000 But that's just really not happening.

00:27:18.000 You know, in the sense that the Muslim population in America is something like what, 1%?

00:27:24.000 It is very small.

00:27:26.000 The real demographic threat in America is coming from Asian and Latin America, not from Muslims. 0.98

00:27:32.000 And the real threat to Americans in their daily lives is not even coming from Muslim terrorists, it's coming from crime. 1.00

00:27:39.000 It's coming from largely black people in the major cities who are criminals. 1.00

00:27:44.000 It's coming from BLM, it's coming from I mean, that's the real problem, right? 1.00

00:27:52.000 So that's just basically to answer that part, which seemed to be a consistent theme.

00:27:56.000 What's more, it's like so warped.

00:28:00.000 Throughout the debate, there's this sort of assumption of like, or there's this line that keeps being put out.

00:28:07.000 Well, what if Israel didn't exist?

00:28:08.000 What if Israel was taken over? 0.99

00:28:10.000 What if Israel brought in more Arabs than Jews?

00:28:12.000 It's like, that's not on the table.

00:28:15.000 That's not happening.

00:28:17.000 In what way is that happening?

00:28:18.000 Israel has a nuclear arsenal.

00:28:21.000 Israel is more powerful than any other country in the Middle East militarily. 0.91

00:28:25.000 They are more powerful than Iran.

00:28:26.000 They are more powerful than Saudi Arabia.

00:28:28.000 They are more powerful than Turkey.

00:28:31.000 In what way is, you know, I don't know what planet Israel is on the brink of some sort of extermination or something. 0.99

00:28:39.000 Don't you think that if the Muslims could destroy Israel, they would?

00:28:44.000 Israel is allied with two out of the three countries that they border. 0.96

00:28:47.000 Israel is allied with Egypt to their south, Jordan to their east.

00:28:51.000 The only problem is Lebanon, which is a totally failed state, and Syria further north, which is a failed state, which is in the middle of a civil war. 0.81

00:29:00.000 Their only other adversary, which hasn't been destroyed, which would be Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Sudan, destroyed by civil war, would be Iran. 0.82

00:29:11.000 That's their last adversary, which they are actively agitating for war against. 0.62

00:29:17.000 So it's like Iraq has been destroyed.

00:29:20.000 Syria was nearly destroyed.

00:29:22.000 Libya was destroyed.

00:29:23.000 Egypt had its tumultuous time of.

00:29:25.000 You know, three different regimes in the past 10 years.

00:29:28.000 Tunisia had regime change, right?

00:29:31.000 Lebanon's destroyed. 0.70

00:29:33.000 Iraq's gone. 0.83

00:29:34.000 Did I say that? 1.00

00:29:35.000 Afghanistan's gone. 0.91

00:29:38.000 But somehow Israel is like on the verge of falling apart. 0.58

00:29:42.000 I think it's like every country around has either bent the knee or been destroyed, except for Iran, which Trump, you know, ripped up the nuclear deal, put on the most intense sanctions regime, except for North Korea in the entire world, and we're on the borderline of war with them right now.

00:29:57.000 Israel bombs them with impunity.

00:30:00.000 So, there was this consistent theme throughout the debate of like, well, what if Israel fell to Muslims and what if Muslims took over?

00:30:07.000 It's like, but that's not really the issue at hand.

00:30:10.000 The issue at hand is this.

00:30:12.000 And I said this on my show a couple of weeks ago.

00:30:15.000 A hundred years ago, the Jewish state didn't exist, the Zionist state didn't exist.

00:30:19.000 And there was, well, a hundred years ago, there was beginning to be the settlement of Palestine, of the Levant region by Jews.

00:30:29.000 This was under Ottoman Turkish rule.

00:30:31.000 It was Arab.

00:30:32.000 It was largely Muslim, small Christian minority, and even smaller Jewish minority.

00:30:38.000 Everything that is happening in the Middle East, in large part, is in response to the introduction of a Jewish settlement in the Levant, which has displaced the native population. 0.92

00:30:53.000 It is an expansionist project, it is a provocative state. 0.94

00:30:58.000 And, you know, the other thing that's going on is you had the Cold War and these sort of patron states in the Soviet Union, America, and before World War II.

00:31:07.000 Great Britain and France.

00:31:09.000 But that's really the cause of everything in the Middle East. 1.00

00:31:11.000 Everybody wants to point the finger at Muslims and say, you know, Muslims are killing each other, Muslims are taking over, Muslims are the problem. 1.00

00:31:17.000 It's like, you know, look, the cause of all this business in the last century was the Sykes Picot Agreement and the results thereof of French and British occupation of the Middle East, the handoff then to America of responsibility of the Middle East, and ultimately, too, the project of Israel, which has been expanding ever since the beginning of the last century. 0.94

00:31:41.000 First, through the settlement of the Levant by Jews, the declaration of independence in 1948, and then the nearly constant expansion since then in these sort of territorial wars and also civilian settlements in occupied parts of the Mandate of Palestine.

00:31:58.000 You know, they fight in 1948, they declare independence, they massacre Palestinians, expel them from the region, and they expand on the territory given to them by the UN.

00:32:07.000 You know, then in 1967, and this is, you know, you really look into the history here.

00:32:14.000 USS Liberty and all of that.

00:32:16.000 Israel basically provokes a war with Egypt and Syria, this Arab coalition, and Israel then gains control over Sinai, the Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank.

00:32:27.000 They give up Sinai in 1978 in exchange for what? 0.65

00:32:30.000 Peace with Egypt, secured by the United States and the foreign aid to Egypt. 0.82

00:32:34.000 Never give back the Golan Heights, retain control in terms of security over the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. 0.90

00:32:41.000 And you know, we are here now in the present day where At one point, 100 years ago, there was no Jewish state in the Middle East, and Jews were still in the minority. 0.63

00:32:52.000 Migrating rapidly in the 1920s and 30s, but 100 years ago, no Jewish state.

00:32:58.000 It's Ottoman, well, at that point, it was British mandate, right?

00:33:02.000 It's British control over a former Ottoman territory, but it's still largely Arab Muslim. 1.00

00:33:07.000 Jews are coming in. 0.97

00:33:09.000 And we're at the point now where the Jewish state has security control over the entire mandate of Palestine with a country. 0.96

00:33:17.000 They have control over the Golan Heights. 0.90

00:33:19.000 Iraq has been destroyed.

00:33:21.000 Syria is in the midst of a civil war.

00:33:23.000 Libya has been destroyed.

00:33:25.000 Egypt and Jordan have been made to bend the knee.

00:33:26.000 Lebanon has been destroyed. 0.89

00:33:28.000 And like I said, now they've got their sights set on Iran. 0.94

00:33:31.000 And it's like, that's the story of the last 100 years.

00:33:36.000 And we hear these debates about Israel Palestine, and it's like, well, who do you like more, Jews or Muslims? 0.98

00:33:41.000 Well, Muslims are chopping off heads and killing each other, and Jews are kind of like us. 0.97

00:33:46.000 I mean, hey, they look kind of like us, I guess. 1.00

00:33:49.000 Judeo Christian and everything.

00:33:52.000 And then, like I said, there's this line of like, well, Israel's constantly under attack.

00:33:57.000 Everyone's abusing them, whatever.

00:33:58.000 It's like, that's not the world we're living in.

00:34:02.000 And so, anyway, so that was like the main argument was this Islamo fascism. 0.94

00:34:07.000 We support Israel to fight that. 0.98

00:34:09.000 We're giving them foreign aid to help us.

00:34:12.000 We're buying leverage to do what exactly?

00:34:14.000 I don't know.

00:34:15.000 Something vague in general.

00:34:18.000 And why do we have to do that? 0.68

00:34:19.000 Because Israel's like on the brink of collapse somehow, even though they're. 0.91

00:34:23.000 Growing and expanding and more powerful than all their neighbors who have all been destroyed or forced into an alliance with Israel. 0.98

00:34:32.000 And then, you know, as a rebuttal to that, you know, what my pitch was like, look, Muslims are not really like us. 0.99

00:34:40.000 Muslims constitute a different civilization, you know, different religion, different people, obviously at war with Christendom for thousands of years or, you know, a little bit over a thousand years. 0.98

00:34:51.000 I said, but Jews aren't Western civilization either. 1.00

00:34:54.000 Jewish people and Israel are not Western civilization. 1.00

00:34:58.000 You know, when Jewish people were a diaspora population living in Europe, they were segregated, they were expelled, they were persecuted, they were killed.

00:35:06.000 They formed their own little enclaves in Europe where they spoke their own language and had their own courts and had their own police and acted as a corporate entity and were treated that way by the government.

00:35:17.000 It wasn't until very recently that that wasn't true.

00:35:20.000 They practice a different religion.

00:35:22.000 They come from a different, you know, they come from the Middle East.

00:35:24.000 Europeans are native to Europe. 1.00

00:35:26.000 Their religion is in direct contradiction to our religion.

00:35:30.000 We believe in Christ.

00:35:31.000 The Savior, the fulfillment of the Old Testament, they hate Jesus Christ.

00:35:36.000 I mean, they think that he's this usurper, a rebel, a blasphemer.

00:35:40.000 You know, they say terrible things about him.

00:35:42.000 So the idea that this is like some kind of, well, you know, Muslim is foreign, alien to us, and different.

00:35:49.000 Israel seems closer in proximity. 1.00

00:35:53.000 I would undermine that that's even true, by the way. 0.99

00:35:56.000 We've been living closer together than we have with Muslims because Jews have been living inside our civilization and there's some connection. 1.00

00:36:03.000 Closer connection, I guess chronologically, between Talmudic Judaism and Christianity. 1.00

00:36:10.000 But they're alien all the same. 1.00

00:36:12.000 And it's even a question whether or not they are more or less alien to us than the Muslims. 1.00

00:36:17.000 And I said this during the debate Muslims believe that Jesus Christ was a prophet, and they hold him. 0.98

00:36:23.000 I think that Muslims believe that Jesus Christ is second to Muhammad in holiness. 0.99

00:36:31.000 Whereas Jews hate Jesus Christ, and they're the only people that do. 0.97

00:36:35.000 Buddhists believe that Jesus Christ was like maybe not divine, but they think that he was like a social teacher or something, you know, an enlightened individual. 0.99

00:36:45.000 Hindus believe something similar.

00:36:47.000 They think that he was like a peacemaker or something like that.

00:36:52.000 Muslims believe that he's a prophet or a holy person.

00:36:56.000 Christians believe he's the son of God or God himself. 0.81

00:36:59.000 Jews think that Jesus Christ was this usurper. 1.00

00:37:03.000 They're the ones that sentenced him to death.

00:37:05.000 And if you read the Talmud, they say horrible things about Jesus Christ.

00:37:08.000 They're the only ones. 0.83

00:37:09.000 They do.

00:37:10.000 Atheists may be ambivalent.

00:37:11.000 Some of them are against Christianity, but Judaism is the only religion, rabbinical Judaism, or rather Talmudic Judaism, is the only religion that is like necessarily opposed to Christianity, and specifically Jesus Christ.

00:37:25.000 Not to say that Muslims and Christians haven't had conflicts before, but in terms of the religion, and that all this is to say, I don't know that they're the outpost of Western civilization, the sort of protectorate, the close first cousin or sibling of Western civilization that people make it out to be, which is why. 0.95

00:37:43.000 We prefer one over the other. 0.99

00:37:46.000 I think it's not so much Israel or Palestine, Muslims or Jews. 1.00

00:37:50.000 It's like, hey, how about Christians?

00:37:53.000 How about America? 0.64

00:37:54.000 How about Christians and how about America? 0.84

00:37:57.000 And that was sort of one part of my argument. 0.81

00:38:00.000 And the other was, there's no interest served by Israel. 0.99

00:38:03.000 We give them lots, we get nothing in return. 0.91

00:38:06.000 And if you're America first, you really just can't support that. 0.72

00:38:12.000 And so, you know, that's just a little recap, little summary. 0.74

00:38:15.000 Those are some of my thoughts.

00:38:16.000 I think that on the other side, There's just no evidence.

00:38:20.000 So they have to come up with a lot of this rhetorical stuff, which amounts to, oh, you're anti Semitic. 0.79

00:38:29.000 These very vague, ambiguous general, oh, well, we're fighting a Muslim fascist enemy, and Israel helps us do that. 0.82

00:38:37.000 Well, they just do. 0.84

00:38:37.000 Well, how? 0.84

00:38:40.000 How can you say America first if we give them money?

00:38:42.000 Well, giving them money helps us.

00:38:44.000 How? 0.99

00:38:45.000 Because it fights Islamo fascism. 0.80

00:38:50.000 Well, what is that? 0.75

00:38:51.000 Nobody knows.

00:38:52.000 It's not Saudi Arabia. 0.56

00:38:53.000 It's not ISIS because we're allied with them. 0.84

00:38:55.000 It's just Iran who doesn't attack.

00:38:56.000 I mean, you know what I'm saying? 0.98

00:38:57.000 So you have to really build up a totally alternate universe where, like, America's under attack by Sharia law and Israel's, like, on the brink of collapse.

00:39:09.000 These fanatics are trying to push them into the sea.

00:39:12.000 And it's like we have to argue how foreign aid isn't really foreign aid.

00:39:16.000 And when Israel does a preemptive strike against Egypt in 1967, Well, actually, Egypt provoked them into doing that, right?

00:39:27.000 And on and on and on. 0.56

00:39:28.000 And so, with every one of these arguments, there has to be a sort of rhetorical slate of hand, a little technicality, or whatever. 0.53

00:39:35.000 And that's because these talking points come from the Zionist lobby. 0.61

00:39:40.000 All of that amounts to marketing its propaganda from the Jewish state and from Jewish Zionists themselves. 0.72

00:39:48.000 They come up with these arguments basically to trick people. 0.91

00:39:51.000 It's really not that much different from.

00:39:54.000 Why Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, Turning Point USA, why organizations like that exist.

00:40:02.000 Think tanks peddle this alternate reality and they invite you into it so that you see what they want you to see.

00:40:11.000 You know, like American Enterprise Institute wants you to be afraid of socialism.

00:40:16.000 Why?

00:40:17.000 Socialism's not really real in a meaningful sense.

00:40:22.000 I don't know that there's anybody really fighting for socialism.

00:40:25.000 You know, certainly there may be some people, but.

00:40:28.000 Obviously, that's not the biggest problem.

00:40:30.000 You're not going to get carjacked in Chicago by socialists.

00:40:33.000 You're not being hated by Lori Lightfoot for being a capitalist, right?

00:40:37.000 I mean, it's racial.

00:40:38.000 It's not necessarily about that.

00:40:40.000 And socialism's not the number one threat.

00:40:42.000 It's this like cultural revolution, demographic, white replacement, et cetera.

00:40:47.000 But an organization like AEI, Cato Institute, Turning Point Heritage, they invite you into this created world where socialism is on the rise and you've got to be concerned about it. 0.97

00:41:00.000 You got to think in terms of Reds and Pinco commies and all this. 0.98

00:41:04.000 Why?

00:41:05.000 Because big government, you know, high taxation policies affect the donors to those groups adversely.

00:41:14.000 All those think tanks are creating that fabricated world so that your enemies are the same enemies of the billionaires that put up the money for those groups.

00:41:23.000 You know who's really afraid of so called socialism?

00:41:26.000 The billionaires that front the money for Cato Institute and AEI and all those groups.

00:41:31.000 That's who's afraid of socialism.

00:41:33.000 And the same goes for this issue. 1.00

00:41:36.000 Who's really afraid of the Islamofascists? 0.96

00:41:39.000 I'm not, that's not a threat to me, but we have to be sold on that. 1.00

00:41:43.000 We need to be convinced that that's our enemy because that's the enemy of Israel. 0.72

00:41:48.000 And Israel and Jewish Zionists are creating these organizations, paying these organizations to put that out there and so fear and fearmonger and create these accusations of bigotry so that Americans get duped into believing otherwise unbelievable things that have no basis in our lived experience and our reality. 0.88

00:42:10.000 So, I go through that debate, and it's just such a trip to hear this kind of stuff like Islamo fascism. 0.71

00:42:15.000 I'm like, and I haven't heard that in a long time.

00:42:17.000 You know, the last time I heard that was from Mark Levin.

00:42:21.000 Mark Levin used to say that all the time on his show.

00:42:23.000 I used to listen to Mark Levin and Glenn Beck and those kinds of people, and they say Islam fascists, and they make these comparisons to Hitler or something. 0.81

00:42:36.000 And Robert Barnes did it too. 0.99

00:42:38.000 He said, Well, the Palestinians are in bed with the Nazis, the Nazis, Nazis and Muslims, Arab nationalists and Aryan nationalists, hate Jews. 0.98

00:42:48.000 And it really all goes back to this anti Semitism charge. 0.99

00:42:52.000 Which is like, you can't criticize Jews.

00:42:55.000 You can't criticize Jews in a way that Jews don't approve of.

00:42:59.000 If you do, it's anti Semitic. 0.91

00:43:01.000 You can criticize certain things, and by the way, Jews will arbitrate what those things are. 0.99

00:43:07.000 If you step outside the bounds of those things, it's anti Semitic. 0.95

00:43:11.000 And if it's anti Semitic, you can't have a job. 0.84

00:43:13.000 You can't have a job, you can't go to school, you can't run for office, you can't make money on the internet, you can't have a Facebook account or a YouTube account. 0.59

00:43:20.000 And it really all goes down back to that, which is to say, These people are going to be elevated beyond criticism.

00:43:27.000 We basically have to go along with what they say, or else, again, they get to arbitrate.

00:43:31.000 Well, what you say falls outside of bounds. 0.99

00:43:34.000 You hate Jews. 0.93

00:43:35.000 Now you're banned from everything. 1.00

00:43:38.000 And don't take my word for it.

00:43:39.000 Like, that's the State Department's official policy of anti Semitism, it is so expansive.

00:43:45.000 It includes things like if you say that Jewish people in America have more allegiance to Israel than America, that's the official State Department definition of anti Semitism.

00:43:55.000 If you think that Jewish people shouldn't have a homeland in Israel, if you're against Israel, if you think that fewer than six million Jews died in the Holocaust, that's the official definition of anti Semitism.

00:44:05.000 And it's a long list of things. 0.77

00:44:07.000 And it all goes back to that.

00:44:10.000 And anyway, so it's such a trip to go into one of these debates and hear all that old stuff.

00:44:17.000 And it's like, wait, what?

00:44:18.000 I mean, we live in a different reality where, you know, I don't know how you could be a white American and see what's gone on over the past year between COVID lockdown.

00:44:28.000 And tech censorship and the election fraud and the Capitol war on terror now, you know, this Biden intel agency persecution of Trump supporters, and come away thinking, like, well, Islamofascism is going to destroy us all.

00:44:45.000 And that's why we need to help Israel, our closest ally that's on the front lines.

00:44:49.000 It's like it's been a long time since I've done that debate.

00:44:52.000 It's been a long time since I've heard that stuff.

00:44:54.000 And that's where you got to like shake people awake and say, listen, white man, listen, white Christian American man.

00:45:00.000 None of that has anything to do with you. 0.51

00:45:03.000 You know, you white Christians that live in America, what does Palestinian Islamic Jihad have to do with you?

00:45:09.000 What is, you know, all these white Christian conservative Americans are talking about Hamas? 0.96

00:45:15.000 Hamas, I hate Hamas. 0.94

00:45:17.000 I hate Hezbollah.

00:45:19.000 They've never done anything to you.

00:45:19.000 Why?

00:45:21.000 They've never done anything to you. 0.68

00:45:23.000 But pro Israel groups have. 0.88

00:45:26.000 It was pro Israel Jewish Zionists that brought us to war in Iraq. 0.90

00:45:31.000 You know, you've got a dead brother, a dead uncle. 0.91

00:45:33.000 Who died in the war? 0.69

00:45:35.000 Who do you have to thank for that except for the Israel lobby?

00:45:40.000 And you got banned on Facebook, the ADL doxed your house on the media.

00:45:45.000 Who do you have to thank for that? 0.99

00:45:48.000 Are the Islamofascists running the ADL? 1.00

00:45:50.000 Are the Islamofascists running Facebook? 0.98

00:45:52.000 Are the Islamofascists running the State Department, the Defense Department? 0.96

00:45:59.000 Are they running Canary Mission? 0.93

00:46:01.000 Are they running mainstream media?

00:46:04.000 Are they running Breitbart, Daily Wire?

00:46:08.000 Are they running the Republican Party?

00:46:10.000 You know, Robert's like, well, Al Jazeera, the Arab lobby represented by Al Jazeera.

00:46:15.000 Which conservatives are reading Al Jazeera?

00:46:17.000 Conservatives are reading Daily Wire, owned by Ben Shapiro, or I guess run by Ben Shapiro, who's a hardcore Jewish Zionist who doesn't care about America.

00:46:26.000 Run in Breitbart.

00:46:28.000 You know, Joel Pollack has gone off the deep end, I think that's his name, at Breitbart about Israel and Palestine.

00:46:35.000 It's like, I wish this guy cared as much about America as he does about Israel.

00:46:38.000 He writes for Breitbart.

00:46:40.000 And the list goes on and on.

00:46:44.000 And people come on the show. 0.98

00:46:45.000 Islamofascism.

00:46:47.000 Really?

00:46:47.000 I mean, I've had a lot of problems in my career, and none of them have come from so called Islamofascists.

00:46:52.000 They've all, virtually all, come from Zionists, Jews, their allies. 1.00

00:46:59.000 I'm just telling it like it is. 0.99

00:47:00.000 As somebody who's been on the receiving end of this stuff, the Zionist Organization of America called for me to be banned from everything.

00:47:08.000 Jewish fixer lawyers for the Trump family have been targeting me.

00:47:13.000 You know, like, it goes on and on. 0.75

00:47:16.000 Care, Muslims, Palestinians, even the general left has not been as much of an obstacle to me, an impediment to me, as the Israel first right. 0.64

00:47:30.000 So, you know, that stuff just has no basis in reality. 0.51

00:47:35.000 Anyway, so that's a little summary of the debate.

00:47:37.000 It was a lot of fun.

00:47:39.000 It was a lot of fun, and I gotta say, big thank you to Alex Jones and everybody at InfoWars for hosting the debate.

00:47:45.000 I thought it was awesome, very entertaining, informative.

00:47:48.000 And, you know, I saw a lot of people commenting like Alex kept interrupting.

00:47:53.000 And he even said that at one point.

00:47:55.000 He's like, I did pretty good, you know.

00:47:58.000 But that's, we love Alex.

00:47:59.000 I think that's part of the charm.

00:48:01.000 He's being himself.

00:48:02.000 He's funny.

00:48:05.000 So they did a great job with the debate.

00:48:07.000 Great job hosting.

00:48:08.000 I thought it was terrific.

00:48:09.000 We love their website.

00:48:10.000 We love banned.video.

00:48:12.000 Robert Barnes, thanks to him for doing the debate.

00:48:15.000 Credit to him.

00:48:16.000 You know, nobody else will do this debate.

00:48:18.000 Dave Rubin wouldn't do it.

00:48:19.000 Ben Shapiro won't do it.

00:48:20.000 A lot of them won't do it, but he did.

00:48:22.000 So, I appreciate that, and I appreciate everybody that watched the debate.

00:48:25.000 Thank you guys.

00:48:26.000 I want to take a look a little bit at the reaction here.

00:48:29.000 I want to go on social media and just see if I can get some of the reaction to the debate from you guys.

00:48:40.000 So, let me pull that up here on the screen.

00:48:44.000 It's going to look a little bit weird.

00:48:47.000 But let me pull it up here.

00:48:49.000 See, because I'm on the same set, but now I'm smaller.

00:48:53.000 I'm down here.

00:48:54.000 So, I just want to check the timeline and see maybe some of the reaction to the debate or something.

00:48:59.000 Maybe I'll go to my notifications and see what people have been saying because I'm a little bit curious.

00:49:04.000 I want to know.

00:49:05.000 These are my verified mentions, by the way.

00:49:07.000 Verified mentions.

00:49:09.000 You only get these if you're a verified person. 0.90

00:49:16.000 And the Twitter UI sucks.

00:49:18.000 Even if you click refresh, it doesn't refresh your notifications.

00:49:21.000 So, we're going to have to wait for it.

00:49:23.000 There we go.

00:49:29.000 So let's see.

00:49:31.000 Here we go.

00:49:32.000 You won.

00:49:33.000 Thanks.

00:49:37.000 What else do we have?

00:49:41.000 It's not going to be perfect because not all of my mentions will have to do with this debate.

00:49:45.000 So, here, you know what?

00:49:47.000 Maybe I'll just go to my profile.

00:49:48.000 I'll look at the replies to this tweet.

00:49:51.000 Somebody tweeted out who won the debate, Barnes or Nick Fuentes?

00:49:54.000 6,000 votes so far.

00:49:57.000 A clear lead.

00:49:59.000 I'm in the lead here.

00:50:01.000 Almost tied with no opinion.

00:50:05.000 11% think Robert won.

00:50:06.000 47% think I won.

00:50:08.000 40% say no opinion.

00:50:10.000 This guy, by the way, is, I think, like an Israel guy.

00:50:12.000 So, his audience definitely is not, you know, in agreement with me.

00:50:17.000 But let's see.

00:50:18.000 Fuentes, in my opinion.

00:50:20.000 Fuentes, Alex Jones.

00:50:24.000 We need to stop Nick Fuentes.

00:50:25.000 He knows too much.

00:50:27.000 Bass Grandpa knows the stuff.

00:50:29.000 Schroyer, shut it down.

00:50:31.000 That must be a call in that was on Infowars.

00:50:34.000 I don't know.

00:50:34.000 I don't know what they were saying.

00:50:36.000 I didn't catch that.

00:50:37.000 Barnes, but Nick did really well.

00:50:39.000 Six replies.

00:50:41.000 Is this a joke?

00:50:42.000 LOL.

00:50:46.000 You guys don't express these opinions in public, right?

00:50:49.000 I only see them expressed by a non-account on the internet. 1.00

00:50:51.000 Islamofascists, actually. 1.00

00:50:54.000 I guess we're that. 0.99

00:50:57.000 Barnes didn't have the charisma tonight.

00:50:59.000 Alex was the real winner.

00:51:02.000 People scared to admit Nick was right is where the no-opinion result.

00:51:07.000 Nick, hands down, future of the GOP, so true.

00:51:10.000 Alex is a good host, but he went on too many tangents that made it hard for Fuentes and Barnes to stay engaged.

00:51:15.000 Yeah, I was a little.

00:51:16.000 But that's okay.

00:51:17.000 He was keeping it moving, you know.

00:51:19.000 Nick Fuentes, ratio.

00:51:20.000 Fuentes, 100%.

00:51:22.000 Let's go, Luke.

00:51:24.000 Viva, you do realize autist Twitter loves Nick, right?

00:51:31.000 Nick won on the foreign aid and leverage discussion.

00:51:33.000 That's basically game over. 0.74

00:51:35.000 Vague allusions to Islamofascism.

00:51:36.000 Don't cut it. 1.00

00:51:38.000 Fuentes was talking about reality, giving specific examples of how they act against our interests.

00:51:42.000 Barnes didn't engage those claims, Nick won.

00:51:45.000 And that's very true.

00:51:46.000 That's very true because I was like, I was like, look, because he kept saying, that was another thing. 0.96

00:51:52.000 He kept saying in the first half hour of the debate, we give money, we give five times as much money to Muslim countries than we do to the enemies of Israel than we do to Israel.

00:52:01.000 And I'm like, that's not true.

00:52:03.000 That's literally not true.

00:52:05.000 We give 60% of all the foreign military financing to Israel.

00:52:09.000 Overall, all the military financing that we give to any country in the world, 60% of it goes to Israel.

00:52:16.000 But we give five times as much.

00:52:17.000 I'm like, where are you getting that figure?

00:52:19.000 And he's like, I forget what he said.

00:52:22.000 Um,.

00:52:23.000 But that's not true.

00:52:24.000 I mean, that's just simply not true.

00:52:26.000 And what's more is, you know, he says, well, enemies of Israel are Muslim majority countries.

00:52:32.000 What?

00:52:33.000 Are you kidding me?

00:52:34.000 Who are the top four recipients of foreign aid? 0.90

00:52:37.000 Technically, Afghanistan, but that doesn't really count because we're occupying them.

00:52:41.000 So that, you know, it's not really the same thing.

00:52:43.000 But it's Afghanistan, Israel, Egypt, and Jordan. 0.90

00:52:47.000 Afghanistan is a colony of America.

00:52:50.000 Egypt is aligned with Israel, allied with Israel since 1978. 0.80

00:52:55.000 And that's when they started getting the money.

00:52:57.000 And Jordan is number three, another ally of Israel, normalized relations in the early 90s, and that's when they started getting their aid too.

00:53:03.000 So he's like, well, the enemies of Israel, who are the enemies of Israel?

00:53:07.000 Even though the figure isn't true, he says, well, the enemies of Israel are Muslim majority countries, really?

00:53:13.000 Because the three, I mean, technically the three Muslim majority countries that get the most foreign aid are all basically aligned with Israel.

00:53:22.000 And that's just the top.

00:53:24.000 Then you could go into Saudi Arabia, that's a Muslim majority country.

00:53:27.000 Are they an enemy of Israel?

00:53:29.000 We do these billion dollar arms contracts with Saudi Arabia, and they're aligned with Israel, normalized relations with Israel.

00:53:36.000 So I called him on the carpet, and he never brought that up.

00:53:38.000 For the rest of the debate, he didn't bring that up.

00:53:40.000 He didn't concede that.

00:53:42.000 He just didn't stop bringing it up.

00:53:43.000 He said that many times, and I'm like, wait a second, time out.

00:53:47.000 That's not true.

00:53:48.000 And then that just stopped being brought up.

00:53:50.000 And then he's like, well, I think he asked me, or maybe I asked him, we were talking about Syria, and I said it was the Trump administration policy.

00:54:01.000 And it was the America First policy to oppose regime change in Syria, yet Israel pursued regime change in Syria after we stopped doing that.

00:54:11.000 And Barnes was like, Well, the deep state wanted it.

00:54:14.000 And I'm like, Oh, so like the deep state and Israel are working together to just subvert America First in the Trump administration? 0.96

00:54:22.000 Like, yeah, that's a great argument as to why we should support Israel, right? 0.80

00:54:27.000 That's a great argument as to why Israel is a great ally.

00:54:30.000 Well, technically, Israel was acting in an aligned way with America.

00:54:36.000 But not the America First agenda of the Trump administration, the anti American agenda of the globalist deep state.

00:54:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess I just didn't realize that.

00:54:49.000 And that was just like, you know, that was sort of, we got off of that subject very quickly, but I'm like, you know, gee, well, here's a good instance.

00:54:59.000 America abandoned regime change because that is bad for America, it destabilizes the region.

00:55:06.000 Assad is against ISIS.

00:55:08.000 Fighting Assad helps ISIS.

00:55:10.000 ISIS is our enemy. 1.00

00:55:11.000 They're the so called Islamofascists that are our enemies. 0.94

00:55:14.000 It's the America first position and the stated official policy of the Trump admin to stop pursuing regime change. 0.93

00:55:20.000 Yet Israel continue to do that in spite of this.

00:55:23.000 And Barnes is like, oh, well, you just don't understand.

00:55:27.000 Because the deep state wanted regime change.

00:55:32.000 So Israel and the deep state are conspiring against the American people to put America last and help ISIS.

00:55:32.000 Oh.

00:55:40.000 Who are not the real Islamofascists? 1.00

00:55:42.000 Like, what? 1.00

00:55:42.000 Iran is. 1.00

00:55:43.000 And you want to know why they support regime change in Syria?

00:55:48.000 They support regime change in Syria because Syria is aligned with Iran, and they see that Iran is forming this Shiite crescent in the Middle East, and Iran is sending missiles and supplies to Hezbollah in Lebanon through Syria, and that Iran has bases in Syria, and so they see Syria as a base of like Iranian control, a locus of Iranian power.

00:56:12.000 And so that's why they want to destroy Assad by any means necessary, including and especially by supporting ISIS.

00:56:18.000 What's more, is supporting ISIS creates a pretext for America to remain in the Middle East.

00:56:24.000 Don't you remember when ISIS came around?

00:56:26.000 Obama began the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq in 2011.

00:56:31.000 ISIS comes on the scene shortly after.

00:56:33.000 And what's the consensus?

00:56:35.000 We withdrew too early.

00:56:36.000 That was the consensus.

00:56:37.000 Obama's elected in 2008 because of the recession and unpopular wars.

00:56:43.000 He's elected to end the wars.

00:56:45.000 In 2011, he begins the withdrawal, and then ISIS magically forms.

00:56:53.000 And then they say, well, ISIS formed in the power vacuum that was left by the Americans, withdrew too early, and now we have to stay forever.

00:57:03.000 And now, not only do we have to stay forever, but now we also have to intervene in Syria.

00:57:07.000 Oh, and now Assad used chemical weapons.

00:57:09.000 Now we have to go to war in Syria. 0.69

00:57:13.000 And ultimately, so that's why Israel supports ISIS. 0.62

00:57:18.000 Because ISIS was the pretext for America, i.e., Israel's puppet, to remain in the region.

00:57:25.000 And ISIS was also undermining the Assad regime, which they saw as an antagonist, which they've always seen.

00:57:33.000 Syria's basically been in a state of perpetual war against Israel since 1967.

00:57:39.000 Syria supports Lebanon, Iran supports Syria. 0.88

00:57:43.000 So this is all part of clean break, this is all part of shoring up their northern border. 0.86

00:57:48.000 And anyway, so. 0.97

00:57:51.000 You know, that was like a perfect example of, like, gee, you know, these guys are not, I mean, they don't really give a shit about what's in our interest and they don't care about us. 0.97

00:57:59.000 They do what they want. 0.96

00:58:00.000 We give them aid.

00:58:01.000 You say that the aid is leverage, but they disobey us at every turn.

00:58:06.000 And he's like, Well, technically they don't because they're doing what the deep state says.

00:58:10.000 And it's like, Okay.

00:58:12.000 So, anyway.

00:58:15.000 I mean, that was just like, it's such a mess.

00:58:17.000 I mean, it's like so insane.

00:58:20.000 This stuff is so insane to believe, but people just don't know the facts.

00:58:23.000 That's the problem, you know?

00:58:29.000 The argument is we have to give.

00:58:30.000 Foreign aid, because I'm like, you know, why do we give them foreign aid?

00:58:33.000 It's leverage.

00:58:34.000 Okay, what is a leverage purchase?

00:58:35.000 Because we tell them not to settle the West Bank since 1967, both Republicans and Democrats, and what do they do?

00:58:41.000 Settle the West Bank.

00:58:43.000 So we couldn't leverage them on that.

00:58:45.000 Since 1967, every single president Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump the official stated policy of the American government is that they're against the settlement in the West Bank.

00:59:01.000 Donald Trump, in one of his first press conferences with a foreign head of state in 2017, turned to Netanyahu and said, Hey, if you could stop settling the West Bank, that'd be great.

00:59:09.000 What do they do no matter what? 0.78

00:59:10.000 Expand the settlements in the West Bank, which is against international law.

00:59:15.000 So our foreign aid isn't leveraging them on that.

00:59:19.000 Israel refused to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which is, again, the official policy of America that they should sign the NPT.

00:59:28.000 America tried to prevent them from getting weapons of mass destruction.

00:59:31.000 Kennedy, Sent nuclear inspectors to Israel and they gave them the runaround. 0.54

00:59:36.000 We tried to prevent Israel from acquiring a nuclear arsenal. 0.50

00:59:40.000 And the Israelis stole our nuclear materials and they stole our nuclear know how, as well as from NATO allies like Germany, to build their nuclear arsenal in violation of the NPT, which they didn't sign, all of which is against American policy. 0.80

00:59:55.000 Wouldn't ratify the Convention on Biological or Chemical Weapons. 0.79

01:00:00.000 So, no leverage on that.

01:00:01.000 You want to know something? 0.93

01:00:03.000 Israel designed the Stuxnet computer virus. 0.69

01:00:06.000 To attack, it was to do a cyber attack against Iranian nuclear centrifuges.

01:00:11.000 Does anybody know about this?

01:00:14.000 Israel did this big cyber attack against Iran some time ago, targeting their nuclear centrifuges, which they used to enrich uranium, allegedly for a nuclear weapons program.

01:00:24.000 It was called the Stuxnet virus. 0.68

01:00:26.000 The reason the Israelis were able to develop the Stuxnet virus is because the Israelis stole the same nuclear centrifuge blueprints from Germany that AQ Khan did, who was a Pakistani operative, and he gave them to. 0.85

01:00:41.000 Iran. 0.78

01:00:42.000 So, in other words, Israel had the know how of Iran's centrifuges because both Israel and Iran stole the blueprints from Germany, a NATO ally.

01:00:53.000 Israel stole the nuclear visible material from Europe and from America, particularly in the Apollo affair and the Plumbot affair.

01:01:04.000 So, no leverage on that.

01:01:05.000 Israel sells our technology to China.

01:01:08.000 That's been well documented in 2005 and the 1990s.

01:01:11.000 To the point where even like Zionist operatives in the government say it's too much.

01:01:15.000 They sell our know how to China, particularly, I think it's like radar systems and missile detection systems.

01:01:25.000 Israel's attacked America several times. 0.61

01:01:28.000 They planned to bomb Americans in the Levant affair.

01:01:32.000 They did deliberately attack the USS Liberty and blamed it on the Egyptians. 0.61

01:01:39.000 Israel spies on America.

01:01:40.000 You know, there's a Jonathan Pollard affair, but there's many others too.

01:01:43.000 I mean, AIPAC.

01:01:45.000 Argues that spying on America is a good thing.

01:01:50.000 And the list goes on and on and on with these transgressions.

01:01:53.000 And like I said, Israel pursues regime change in Syria against our wishes.

01:01:57.000 They bomb targets not only in Syria but in Iraq against the wishes of the United States.

01:02:04.000 And so there's no leverage on any of that.

01:02:06.000 And it's like, okay, so what's.

01:02:09.000 Well, we're helping them to help ourselves.

01:02:12.000 Okay, well, what do we get from them?

01:02:15.000 Nothing.

01:02:15.000 We get nothing, and they hurt us.

01:02:18.000 And the argument's like, well, Islamofascism, what?

01:02:22.000 I mean, what are you talking about? 0.75

01:02:23.000 They're fighting Islamofascism.

01:02:26.000 What does that even mean? 1.00

01:02:26.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:02:28.000 In the war against Islamofascism, they're allied with Saudi Arabia. 0.97

01:02:31.000 Saudi Arabia creates the Wahhabist ideology that all the Sunni terrorists in Europe and America subscribe to. 0.79

01:02:40.000 There are no Shiite terrorists attacking America and Europe. 0.93

01:02:44.000 So, I mean, like, the whole thing is a house of cards, man.

01:02:48.000 The whole argument is just, like, so flimsy.

01:02:51.000 Anyway, so.

01:02:54.000 I keep going in circles with this, but it's just, like, this stuff is insane.

01:03:01.000 Anyway, so.

01:03:03.000 So true, Kay Alexander's right.

01:03:05.000 We love Kay Alexander, by the way.

01:03:06.000 Great guy.

01:03:09.000 Let's see.

01:03:10.000 To be fair, Nick came to argue USA better than Israel.

01:03:13.000 Bob came to argue Israel greater than Palestine. 1.00

01:03:16.000 Yeah, maybe there's some truth in that. 0.99

01:03:18.000 Barnes did well, but Nick won the debate.

01:03:20.000 He was more direct and addressed everything while Barnes dodged a few things.

01:03:24.000 Nick's position supported American interests much better than Barnes.

01:03:27.000 Barnes came off as more advocating Israeli interests. 0.95

01:03:29.000 True.

01:03:31.000 Barnes was embarrassing.

01:03:31.000 Flint has won.

01:03:32.000 How didn't his arms go numb?

01:03:34.000 I don't know why he does that.

01:03:35.000 He sits like this.

01:03:36.000 He sits like this.

01:03:38.000 How can he do that?

01:03:41.000 Fuentes, by far, Barnes' discourse was so monotonous and repetitive.

01:03:45.000 Trying to hammer in every single point with constant buzzwords is not compelling.

01:03:49.000 Fuentes, one, pushing the AF agenda.

01:03:52.000 Fuentes' point about Zionists being staunch nationalists for their own country, but liberals in America really hit home for me. 0.56

01:03:58.000 I buy into Barnes' real politique argument if those Zionists actually cared about nationalists and degeneracy in America. 0.95

01:04:05.000 Yeah, there's a lot of truth in that. 0.94

01:04:06.000 Nick destroyed Islamofascism, Barnes. 0.88

01:04:10.000 Fuentus, and he wasn't even that good compared to some of us to criticize Israel. 0.61

01:04:14.000 Oh, let me guess. 0.93

01:04:15.000 You're way better at it.

01:04:17.000 ANCAP, yeah, that's exactly about what I would expect.

01:04:23.000 Oh, it's his birthday. 0.99

01:04:24.000 Well, he's about to get shit on. 0.99

01:04:26.000 Happy birthday. 1.00

01:04:27.000 You're going to get shit on. 1.00

01:04:29.000 But yeah, that's about what I'd expect. 1.00

01:04:34.000 Fuentus, hands down.

01:04:35.000 Barnes tried to play the Trump card.

01:04:37.000 Trump did this so it was good, wrong.

01:04:39.000 Yep, which is what I said earlier.

01:04:41.000 That's exactly it.

01:04:42.000 And that was his closing statement, too.

01:04:44.000 That was his opening and his closing.

01:04:46.000 I'm on the side of Trump.

01:04:47.000 You're on the side of Ilhan Omar. 1.00

01:04:49.000 It's like, no, bitch. 1.00

01:04:50.000 I'm on the side of America. 1.00

01:04:51.000 You're on the side of the Jewish lobby, Israel lobby.

01:04:55.000 Islamophobicism is greater than Western democracy. 0.99

01:04:58.000 So true. 0.99

01:05:00.000 I said some pretty base things.

01:05:01.000 I regretted what I. 0.81

01:05:02.000 I mean, he tried to catch me because he's like, well, do you think that America would be safer if Israel didn't exist? 0.91

01:05:07.000 And I'm like, well, yeah. 0.98

01:05:09.000 I'm like, well, I mean, that would never happen.

01:05:12.000 But yeah, and then I'm like, but I'm not advocating for that.

01:05:18.000 That's another meta debate tactic because he knows that if I say yes, bad things will happen to me in the real world outside of the debate.

01:05:28.000 But if I say no, then it makes me look like I'm being a hypocrite or something.

01:05:35.000 That was a little too honest.

01:05:36.000 I was like, yeah, well, I mean, let me just say that'll never happen. 0.99

01:05:40.000 But yeah, we would probably be safer if Israel didn't exist. 0.99

01:05:45.000 But I'm not advocating that. 1.00

01:05:47.000 And I'm like, I'm going to get in trouble.

01:05:50.000 And, yeah.

01:05:52.000 So he tried to trip me up there, but I'm like, you know what?

01:05:54.000 I'll suffer in real life to win this debate. 0.97

01:05:57.000 Damn right. 0.99

01:05:58.000 Damn right. 0.99

01:05:58.000 I'll take heat for this in real life. 0.99

01:06:00.000 That's what I'm here for.

01:06:02.000 I took a shot every time Barnes said Islamofascism. 0.99

01:06:05.000 I would have died of alcohol poisoning 20 minutes in.

01:06:10.000 Infor is his propaganda machine.

01:06:11.000 I disagree.

01:06:12.000 They're having this debate.

01:06:14.000 Alex Jones.

01:06:15.000 He had the debate.

01:06:16.000 I don't get people saying this.

01:06:17.000 It's like he had the debate.

01:06:19.000 So.

01:06:20.000 How could he host and platform this, my position, if they were controlled opposition?

01:06:27.000 If they were controlled opposition, they wouldn't have the debate.

01:06:30.000 I think that probably Alex Jones and Robert Barnes are well meaning people.

01:06:34.000 I don't doubt their intentions, but just probably disagree.

01:06:37.000 Maybe it's generational.

01:06:41.000 Decisive Groiber victory. 0.91

01:06:42.000 Barnes couldn't accurately define Islamo fascism, which is the major justification for support for Israel.

01:06:48.000 He defined it as like, He basically defined it as Islamism. 0.78

01:06:53.000 Islamism is like creating Muslim states. 0.83

01:06:59.000 Basically, you know, and I know this because I was in this world when I was in high school. 0.99

01:07:05.000 It's militant Muslim groups or Muslim states that want to see like a caliphate, basically. 0.92

01:07:12.000 It's Muslims that want a theocratic state with Sharia law and they're militant and they're aggressive. 0.99

01:07:21.000 And if they get control of states, they want to expand and they want a war against Christians and something. 1.00

01:07:26.000 Like, that's Islamofascism, is what I understand it to be. 0.73

01:07:30.000 The only problem is that, you know, that's just really not a threat.

01:07:34.000 That's not happening, you know.

01:07:36.000 Saudi Arabia is a Muslim theocracy and they're not expansionist.

01:07:41.000 You know, they're not fighting wars to expand.

01:07:43.000 I mean, they're trying to control the Arabian Peninsula, but, and they exert influence on America and other countries, but.

01:07:52.000 I mean, they're not trying to siege Vienna again, you know, neither is Turkey with Erdogan.

01:07:58.000 I mean, there's these like border clashes with Greece sometimes, but that's been going on forever.

01:08:06.000 So it's just not a real threat.

01:08:09.000 What they're saying doesn't exist.

01:08:10.000 They're trying to conjure up this comparison of the Nazis.

01:08:13.000 Like, well, you know, Chamberlain appeased the Nazis in the 30s when Hitler took Austria and the Sudetenland and whatever, and then that ended in the Great World War II and the Holocaust.

01:08:26.000 And they're trying to compare that to. 0.80

01:08:28.000 By calling them Islamo fascists, and that's supposed to conjure up the sort of analogy that Muslims are expanding, and if we keep appeasing them like Obama does, then they're going to do another Holocaust and they're going to do another world war.

01:08:43.000 But it's like that's not happening.

01:08:46.000 So, Johnny says, Nick smashed leverage.

01:08:51.000 Yeah, Nick won easily.

01:08:51.000 What leverage?

01:08:53.000 Barnes kept repeating the same you're with Israel or the Islamo fascist line.

01:08:57.000 False dichotomy, yep. 0.99

01:08:59.000 Islam a fascist, yeah. 1.00

01:09:00.000 Fences went easily. 1.00

01:09:01.000 No amount of rhetorical skill on Barnes End is going to patch over the lopsided relationship, yeah.

01:09:07.000 Bad moderator.

01:09:09.000 Disagree.

01:09:12.000 I need to catch my breath for a second.

01:09:16.000 I'm like, too much to say.

01:09:19.000 Too much to say.

01:09:20.000 Nick was exceptional, thanks.

01:09:28.000 First caller won.

01:09:30.000 Started reading quotes from the Talmud and Owen shut it down.

01:09:35.000 Nick won and presented the facts that politics is about defining our enemies.

01:09:38.000 Let's freaking go.

01:09:40.000 Fuentes is a clear winner. 1.00

01:09:41.000 Boomers don't get it. 1.00

01:09:42.000 Yep. 1.00

01:09:42.000 Hey, chat, says Telemachus. 1.00

01:09:47.000 Fuentes won.

01:09:48.000 Like I said earlier tonight, Barnes' leverage argument makes no sense.

01:09:51.000 America has no leverage if we're not willing to exert it by threatening to revoke our billions in aid.

01:09:56.000 True.

01:09:57.000 Fuentes, obviously.

01:09:58.000 Let's freaking go.

01:09:59.000 First half, Barnes.

01:10:00.000 Pfft.

01:10:01.000 In what way? 1.00

01:10:03.000 Dude, you're dumb. 1.00

01:10:04.000 Yeah, nice fake Groyper. 1.00

01:10:09.000 That's not a Groyper, that's a Pepe, bitch. 1.00

01:10:12.000 That's my rap song. 1.00

01:10:13.000 That's not a Groyper, that's a Pepe.

01:10:19.000 That's not a Groyper, that's a Pepe.

01:10:23.000 So, I don't know how Barnes will win the first half.

01:10:26.000 Fuentes hands down, Nick by a long shot.

01:10:28.000 I won the whole debate.

01:10:29.000 First half, second half, and the post debate, too.

01:10:33.000 Nick, don't think anyone won per se.

01:10:35.000 Both sides had valid points.

01:10:40.000 Tough call.

01:10:43.000 Barnes wins.

01:10:45.000 And then they posted a picture of his face.

01:10:48.000 Not a debate, it's a great discussion, okay?

01:10:51.000 Haven't watched yet, but voted Fuentes.

01:10:53.000 Let's freaking go.

01:10:54.000 Up until his colossal misstep, I think Fuentes had the advantage, which is what?

01:10:59.000 What misstep? 0.95

01:11:00.000 If you think the we'd be better off without Israel is anything other than a massive mistake, you're not paying enough attention. 1.00

01:11:06.000 Let's freaking go. 1.00

01:11:09.000 Let's freaking go. 0.98

01:11:10.000 Cringe, blue pilled cuck. 0.79

01:11:12.000 Some people need to just, you know, sometimes you need to drop the whole red pill.

01:11:15.000 You need the whole loaf.

01:11:17.000 This guy got a whole loaf dropped right on him and he can't handle it.

01:11:20.000 It's too much.

01:11:22.000 We need crumbs.

01:11:22.000 We need breadcrumbs.

01:11:23.000 Tell me about how we need to end all foreign aid. 0.99

01:11:26.000 Don't tell me that Israel is a den of scoundrels and organ harvesting and safe refuge for pedophiles and basically people that hate God. 0.98

01:11:39.000 Don't say that. 0.99

01:11:40.000 Don't say that.

01:11:41.000 Don't talk about it.

01:11:42.000 Robert Barnes said something like, The Nazis poisoned the wells in Israel.

01:11:47.000 I'm like, You want to talk about poison wells?

01:11:49.000 You want to go there?

01:11:53.000 You want to take the poison well pill?

01:11:55.000 Are you sure you want to go there?

01:11:57.000 The Nazis poisoned the wells in Israel. 0.56

01:12:00.000 There's some poison well business going on. 0.81

01:12:03.000 You want to go back?

01:12:04.000 He said, Oh, they blame them.

01:12:06.000 At one point, he said, They blame them for the Black Plague.

01:12:09.000 And not without good reason, let me add, and not without good reason.

01:12:13.000 You ever heard of Ariel Topher?

01:12:18.000 Poison the well.

01:12:19.000 You know where that expression comes from?

01:12:22.000 Hey, what's that guy doing by the well? 0.88

01:12:25.000 Hey, what's that rabbi doing by the well?

01:12:28.000 That's where that expression comes from.

01:12:31.000 Black plague.

01:12:33.000 I saw this funny looking guy by the well.

01:12:35.000 Now everyone in the village has plague.

01:12:38.000 These things are unrelated.

01:12:40.000 These things are unrelated.

01:12:42.000 He brought up the plague and the well.

01:12:44.000 Well, that's another debate.

01:12:46.000 That's outside the scope of this debate.

01:12:48.000 But look, we got to go full red pill.

01:12:51.000 Are you ready to take the ibuprofen?

01:12:56.000 Are you ready to take the red ibuprofen tablet, the red pill?

01:13:03.000 Right of return, pedophilia, organ harvesting.

01:13:09.000 Human sacrifice.

01:13:10.000 You ready to take the red pill?

01:13:11.000 You ready to take the real red pill?

01:13:14.000 I should do an in person debate.

01:13:16.000 Yeah, is this on YouTube?

01:13:18.000 Hello, Nick Barnes.

01:13:21.000 What debate?

01:13:22.000 LOL, so many similarities to the far left in this crowd.

01:13:22.000 This debate.

01:13:25.000 It's just like Eli.

01:13:26.000 It's just like the squad. 0.80

01:13:29.000 The socialist squad.

01:13:30.000 AOC, socialist squad.

01:13:33.000 Excuse me. 0.65

01:13:33.000 I was like, never mind the fact that Nancy Pelosi's pro Israel, right? 0.65

01:13:39.000 This congresswoman from New York.

01:13:42.000 Okay, but like, you know, the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader are both pro Israel, and so is the Democratic president.

01:13:50.000 But the squad, the squad, and these, you know, BDS people, BDS who they're passing laws to censor them on college campuses.

01:14:01.000 And banning them from doing business with federal contractors.

01:14:06.000 Yeah, okay.

01:14:08.000 Much respect to Barnes.

01:14:09.000 He put forward a good case, attempting to tie support to Israel with America First Real Politique.

01:14:14.000 Ultimately, though, I found Fuentes' case more persuasive.

01:14:17.000 Let's freaking go.

01:14:19.000 Nictory Royale.

01:14:20.000 I've listened to Barnes.

01:14:21.000 I've listened to Fuentes.

01:14:22.000 I haven't seen this, but honestly can't imagine Fuentes coming out on top.

01:14:27.000 Okay, well, then why comment?

01:14:29.000 I thought Fuentes was too emotional.

01:14:32.000 Emotional, dude, in what way?

01:14:34.000 He didn't seem able to separate his beef with the Jewish lobby from his opinions of the state of Israel.

01:14:40.000 That's because largely one in the same. 0.63

01:14:43.000 You know, if you really want to get down to it, I understand there's a lot of overlap, but many of his claims weren't reflective of the world as is. 0.87

01:14:49.000 Oh, okay, but Islamofascism is about policy towards Israel. 0.70

01:14:54.000 They have to realize that the Jews in the U.S. control the entire information, propaganda machine, large newspapers, motion pictures. 0.82

01:15:00.000 Is this a real quote? 0.95

01:15:02.000 If so, freaking based.

01:15:05.000 Emotion Fuentes.

01:15:07.000 Wait, what way?

01:15:08.000 What?

01:15:10.000 Are you kidding me?

01:15:11.000 In the first part of the debate, I'm like, oh, here's an example.

01:15:16.000 In April 2017, the U.M. ambassador and State Department articulated a new Trump admin policy about not pursuing regime change in Syria, and Israel did it in spite of that.

01:15:26.000 Oh, but that's an emotional and nonfactual argument. 0.50

01:15:28.000 It's factual to reply to that and say, but Islamofascism, right? 0.98

01:15:34.000 Give me a break.

01:15:40.000 Barnes, Fuenz's logic is kid talk.

01:15:43.000 If we leave them alone, they won't hurt us.

01:15:45.000 What galaxy does he live on?

01:15:47.000 Has he ever read any Islamic source? 1.00

01:15:50.000 Kids think Islam is this macho society.

01:15:52.000 They have no clue.

01:15:55.000 Who's doing the hurting?

01:15:58.000 I went to a debate and Alex Jones broke out.

01:16:00.000 Let's go.

01:16:01.000 Haven't watched, but I'm sure Barnes did better than Arthur Shopper.

01:16:03.000 He did.

01:16:04.000 Nick in a landslide.

01:16:05.000 Let's go.

01:16:06.000 Robert says, Islamofascism a thousand times was in poor taste.

01:16:10.000 What's his point? 1.00

01:16:11.000 No country can have a majority of Muslims. 1.00

01:16:14.000 Same with one state, so that's wrong because there would be a majority. 0.99

01:16:17.000 What if he said Jews couldn't vote if they were a majority? 0.90

01:16:20.000 Shoe on the other foot.

01:16:23.000 Here was Barnes' tactic. 0.89

01:16:24.000 Trump was a Zionist, therefore Israel good. 1.00

01:16:26.000 Muslims bad. 0.99

01:16:27.000 Muslims hate Jews, therefore Israel good. 1.00

01:16:29.000 What the hell is an Islamo fascist? 1.00

01:16:31.000 Iran, the Saudis, ISIS, two of those rallied with Israel. 0.99

01:16:34.000 Low IQ, low information argument.

01:16:35.000 Wow, so based.

01:16:36.000 Leaf Groyper based.

01:16:39.000 Clear winner.

01:16:40.000 Flensis Easily.

01:16:41.000 I think they both won and neither lost. 1.00

01:16:43.000 Gay, retard. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Nick won despite Alex coming in and going on tangents. 1.00

01:16:47.000 Let's freaking go.

01:16:49.000 And clearly won. 1.00

01:16:50.000 Da Muslim Brotherhood argument retarded. 0.99

01:16:55.000 Israel has been supporting the Muslim Brotherhood among other Islamist groups through the decades. 0.97

01:17:00.000 Nick Fuentes, Nick by far.

01:17:01.000 Hard to believe Barnes is a constitutional lawyer. 0.99

01:17:03.000 He's just a brainless neocon. 0.99

01:17:04.000 He's not a brainless neocon. 0.99

01:17:06.000 He's just wrong. 0.89

01:17:08.000 Nick Fuentes.

01:17:10.000 Nick Fuentes.

01:17:11.000 Who's Nick Fuentes?

01:17:13.000 Oh, Nick Fuentes of America First.

01:17:19.000 Let's freaking go.

01:17:24.000 Okay, I think we get the gist.

01:17:26.000 Let's go, Nick.

01:17:28.000 Please like my tweet, Optical Anime Girl, Anime Rape 1488.

01:17:32.000 I don't think I will. 0.94

01:17:36.000 I love Islam of fascism, me too. 1.00

01:17:38.000 Take over take, just kidding. 0.89

01:17:39.000 Victory for Team Fuentes, thank you, based gun.

01:17:43.000 Gun.

01:17:44.000 I think the gun wins.

01:17:49.000 Heads up, 7 up, gun.

01:17:52.000 You just griped InfoWars.

01:17:56.000 Fantasmone based.

01:17:59.000 Let's freaking go.

01:18:02.000 Great job tonight.

01:18:03.000 Thank you.

01:18:06.000 Thank you.

01:18:12.000 Great job.

01:18:12.000 We're proud of you.

01:18:13.000 Thanks.

01:18:14.000 Hey, Nick.

01:18:14.000 Great job tonight.

01:18:16.000 Is this the same tweet?

01:18:17.000 Thank you.

01:18:24.000 Thanks a lot.

01:18:29.000 All right.

01:18:30.000 Okay.

01:18:30.000 I think we get the gist of it.

01:18:31.000 Let's move on.

01:18:32.000 Let's take a look at our super chats.

01:18:35.000 And we'll see what you guys are saying about all of this.

01:18:40.000 Let me pull it up real quick.

01:18:42.000 But thanks a lot, everybody.

01:18:43.000 Thanks for the words of encouragement and support.

01:18:47.000 I appreciate it.

01:18:49.000 Big shout out.

01:18:51.000 Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

01:18:52.000 And I won epically. 0.96

01:18:54.000 Epic style victory, total victory for white boy summer. 1.00

01:18:59.000 An excellent beginning to white boy summer, and America first is inevitable, bitch. 1.00

01:19:12.000 Okay. 1.00

01:19:16.000 All right.

01:19:17.000 Let's take a look at our super chats.

01:19:18.000 We'll see what you guys are saying about our big debate here tonight.

01:19:23.000 Let me pull up our page.

01:19:25.000 Go to.

01:19:27.000 Our earliest super chat.

01:19:33.000 Diligent says yes. 0.90

01:19:35.000 Nathaniel says Barnes keeps asking about the five times USA to Muslim countries, but that's just the US buying the loyalty of Arab countries.

01:19:43.000 Yeah, we went over that, but that's not even true. 1.00

01:19:45.000 It's a bunch of bullshit. 0.99

01:19:49.000 Black Swan says great job today. 1.00

01:19:51.000 Alex Jones' rhetoric on a lot of topics has come a long way.

01:19:54.000 Seems like he's coming around to our beliefs.

01:19:56.000 Gotta love Alex excitedly jumping into the debate.

01:19:58.000 Keep up the great work.

01:19:59.000 I've always got your back, buddy.

01:20:01.000 Thank you very much, buddy.

01:20:02.000 I appreciate it.

01:20:03.000 Fran.

01:20:04.000 Fran.

01:20:06.000 Nathaniel says, Islamofascism might be a somewhat serious concern in the short term, but the writing's on the wall in terms of the internal decline and apostasy of trad Islam among next gen Muslims in the Middle East. 0.99

01:20:18.000 We will all live to see Islamic hegemony crumble. 1.00

01:20:22.000 Yeah, I think you're probably right. 0.99

01:20:23.000 Nathaniel says, I treat the cash the way the government treats vaccines.

01:20:27.000 I won't be satisfied till all my niggas get it.

01:20:29.000 Get it? 1.00

01:20:31.000 So true.

01:20:32.000 A little Kanye lyric.

01:20:34.000 Cozy Biker says, You just red pilled so many people.

01:20:37.000 07 Alex for hosting the debate and congrats on the win.

01:20:40.000 Thank you. 0.73

01:20:41.000 Justin KG says, Islamofascism is such a threat that American consumers pay close to $12 billion in taxes annually to have our food kosher certified. 1.00

01:20:50.000 Ain't that amazing? 1.00

01:20:53.000 There you go. 1.00

01:20:54.000 That's the influence of the Muslim lobby. 1.00

01:20:56.000 These powerless Jews. 1.00

01:20:58.000 Jews have no power in America. 1.00

01:21:01.000 Jews have no institutional power at all. 0.98

01:21:05.000 I'm constantly surprised at the lack of Jewish influence in media, finance, and Hollywood. 0.94

01:21:10.000 Contrary to what vicious anti Semites say, who hate Jews for no reason at all, and that is what it is, it's just blind hatred.

01:21:19.000 I was surprised at the complete lack thereof of any Jewish influence in any powerful institutions in America.

01:21:27.000 Truly shocking. 1.00

01:21:29.000 So, yeah, I agree.

01:21:35.000 I agree. 1.00

01:21:36.000 The Islamofascists are on the rise. 1.00

01:21:38.000 We and the Jews have got to put a stop to this. 1.00

01:21:43.000 Somebody's saying that there's a Robert Barnes tweet. 1.00

01:21:47.000 People are saying faggot Robert Barnes tweet. 1.00

01:21:49.000 Let's see what it is. 1.00

01:21:54.000 He put out a tweet of him spanking me. 0.59

01:21:58.000 LOL. 1.00

01:21:59.000 Don't complain too much, Groypers.

01:22:03.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:22:04.000 Should I reply?

01:22:05.000 I don't even think I. Should dignify it with a reply.

01:22:08.000 He's just like, no basis in reality.

01:22:12.000 He's already getting ratioed.

01:22:16.000 Getting ratioed with the old Pepe Sig.

01:22:22.000 Oh, I know.

01:22:23.000 I know the quote tweet.

01:22:45.000 That's kind of weak.

01:22:45.000 Eh, I don't know.

01:22:46.000 That's kind of lame.

01:22:48.000 I'll reply after the show.

01:22:50.000 I'm a little burnt out. 0.94

01:22:51.000 But it's a little sussy. 1.00

01:22:56.000 I was just going to reply sussy baka. 0.97

01:23:02.000 Sussy baka. 0.90

01:23:03.000 He won't even know what that means. 1.00

01:23:07.000 He won't even know what that means. 0.99

01:23:09.000 I was going to say sussy baka. 1.00

01:23:12.000 Sussy baka. 1.00

01:23:14.000 Why? 0.85

01:23:14.000 Because he tweeted out this weird meme of him spanking me. 0.85

01:23:17.000 Kind of bizarre.

01:23:24.000 Boomer brain.

01:23:25.000 Boomer brain. 0.97

01:23:28.000 Short circuiting. 1.00

01:23:29.000 Is this Islamo fascist talk? 0.94

01:23:31.000 Is he speaking Arabic?

01:23:34.000 Tandrew says it's good to see people on Twitter who aren't just our people engaging with that debate.

01:23:38.000 Honestly, many seem very impressed with you for good reason.

01:23:41.000 Hey, well, thank you very much for the big super chat.

01:23:44.000 Big shout out.

01:23:45.000 I appreciate it.

01:23:47.000 The American government should give money to me and not to Israel.

01:23:50.000 Thank you very much for the big super chat.

01:23:53.000 I agree.

01:23:53.000 I'm glad people, Allah has awakened the people.

01:23:58.000 May Allah awaken the people so that they may see the evil doings of Israel. 0.94

01:24:07.000 May Allah awaken the people to the evil doings of Israel and the United States, right? 0.99

01:24:16.000 So true. 1.00

01:24:16.000 And it's so true. 1.00

01:24:17.000 And I say it all the time.

01:24:20.000 You see that Donald Trump, that Donald Trump clip?

01:24:28.000 Should I tweet that out?

01:24:30.000 If I tweeted that out, that would be so controversial.

01:24:46.000 Oh man.

01:24:50.000 I don't know.

01:24:50.000 I shouldn't.

01:24:51.000 I would get a lot of flack for that.

01:24:54.000 People wouldn't like that.

01:24:58.000 No, I definitely should.

01:24:59.000 That would totally. 0.94

01:25:00.000 That would be so fucking funny, but it would totally play into Boomer's hands. 0.94

01:25:05.000 They would be like, see, he's quoting Ilhan Omar of the squad. 0.97

01:25:10.000 Because that's an Ilhan Omar quote.

01:25:13.000 So, if I tweeted that out, that would totally play into their hands, and they would say, Look, he's quoting Ilhan Omar, the Democrat squad.

01:25:22.000 Even though it's hilarious, even though it's so funny.

01:25:27.000 Everyone's telling me to do it.

01:25:28.000 Nah, I can't do it.

01:25:31.000 I can't do it.

01:25:32.000 May Allah awaken the people.

01:25:36.000 I love when Trump says things like that when he's quoting, because he'll quote people.

01:25:42.000 And, like, in that instance, he's reading a quote from Ilhan Omar.

01:25:45.000 And it's like, you wish he was saying that for real. 0.83

01:25:47.000 You wish Donald Trump would get up at a rally in front of thousands of Trump supporters and say, May Allah awaken the people so that they may see the evil doings of Israel and the United States.

01:26:01.000 Now, that would be freaking based. 0.97

01:26:06.000 Anyway, Israel must be wiped off. 0.97

01:26:10.000 Do you ever see he said that? 0.97

01:26:13.000 He was quoting somebody and he goes, Israel must be wiped off the face of the earth. 1.00

01:26:18.000 Wouldn't it be funny if he said that?

01:26:20.000 Don't support that.

01:26:21.000 Hey, I don't support that.

01:26:22.000 I don't support that, but it is funny that he, it sounds like he's saying that.

01:26:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:30.000 But I don't support that.

01:26:32.000 Tenrio says, You won that debate with little effort, King.

01:26:35.000 Nick the knife?

01:26:36.000 More like Nick the katana. 1.00

01:26:37.000 Put that shit away so we can hide the body. 1.00

01:26:40.000 Very funny. 1.00

01:26:41.000 Thank you.

01:26:42.000 Thank you, Tenrio.

01:26:43.000 Hope you're doing all right, buddy.

01:26:44.000 Fire Skull says, Barnes many times was bringing up that Israel represented American values. 0.99

01:26:50.000 I was waiting for you to bring up that these American values are globo homo and that we blow up these countries hand in hand with them just to hoist the gay flag. 0.74

01:26:57.000 Well, what he was saying was like tolerance for religious and ethnic minorities, was what he meant, which is like liberal values. 0.75

01:27:05.000 And basically, my point was really neither here nor there. 0.97

01:27:10.000 It's like their interests are self serving, their interests are their own.

01:27:15.000 You know, I mean, whether they support Western values nominally, we could argue about what Western values are.

01:27:20.000 Ultimately, that's really outside the scope of the debate.

01:27:22.000 The point is.

01:27:23.000 Even their apparent support for Western principles is contingent on their self interest.

01:27:30.000 Hardcore Iron Noobs, because they're actually quite conservative in many ways, you know.

01:27:35.000 Hardcore Iron Noobs, his great performance tonight, Nick.

01:27:38.000 Thank you. 0.60

01:27:39.000 Hickory Jims, his thank you, Nick, for defending the prophet Jesus, excuse me, son of God and God himself, and our traditional Islamo Christian values against the Judeo fascist threat in the Middle East. 1.00

01:27:52.000 These Zio fascists. 0.99

01:27:55.000 Islamo Christian. 1.00

01:27:56.000 I'm an Islamo Christian.

01:27:58.000 The Islamo Christian tradition.

01:28:02.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:28:02.000 I'm a Christian.

01:28:03.000 I'm a Christian.

01:28:05.000 But it is funny that you say that. 0.99

01:28:06.000 Save the West says, Well, I think I support Islamo fascism now. 0.98

01:28:15.000 Don't say it. 0.98

01:28:16.000 Don't say it.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, I disagree.

01:28:20.000 I like support our constitution and Republican form of government.

01:28:25.000 Ben Franklin said a republic, if you can keep it. 1.00

01:28:28.000 And that's what I definitely think fascism is bad, and Islam is bad. 1.00

01:28:34.000 And I support a sort of like Jewish, technocratic, oligarchic control over America. 1.00

01:28:42.000 So I don't know what you're on about. 0.93

01:28:44.000 You're some kind of Nazi. 0.99

01:28:45.000 You're a Nazi. 1.00

01:28:46.000 You're a Jew hating Nazi. 1.00

01:28:48.000 And I'm based in red pill, Jew loving Zog slave. 1.00

01:28:54.000 You know, I'm a Goy. 1.00

01:28:56.000 I'm a Goy.

01:28:57.000 I'm part of the Goyim. 0.97

01:28:58.000 And I'm an animal. 1.00

01:28:59.000 And we work for the Jews.

01:29:02.000 And we love that.

01:29:03.000 And that's what America First, that's what Donald Trump is all about.

01:29:10.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:29:10.000 You know, I'm being a little bit sarcastic there, of course.

01:29:15.000 Florida Gen X says, Nick, you won.

01:29:16.000 I see Robert in two weeks at George Gammon's event in Miami, and I'll be sure to let him know.

01:29:21.000 Proud of you, eh?

01:29:22.000 Be polite, but thanks.

01:29:23.000 I appreciate it.

01:29:25.000 And Morden Trump says, Hey, Nick, I just ate a big cheeseburger and a milkshake.

01:29:29.000 I think I'm going to die.

01:29:30.000 I wish I had that.

01:29:30.000 I'm jealous.

01:29:32.000 I didn't eat like anything today.

01:29:33.000 I had a tuna sandwich, and that's it.

01:29:36.000 Vincent Price says, Excellent debate.

01:29:38.000 I was reading the Bin Laden letter to America the other day.

01:29:40.000 He said the reason he did 9 11 was because the U.S. 0.99

01:29:44.000 Yeah, Ms. Fatwa. 0.98

01:29:46.000 That's what he said.

01:29:47.000 And he said that he got the idea for 9 11 watching high rise buildings in Lebanon struck by Israeli jets in 1982.

01:29:56.000 Xander Stone says, Great debate.

01:29:58.000 You're good at keeping your cool and meeting people where they are.

01:30:00.000 Thanks.

01:30:02.000 Why, thank you.

01:30:05.000 Thank you.

01:30:07.000 Dresden says, Killer performance on tonight's debate.

01:30:10.000 Hey, thank you very much.

01:30:11.000 And thanks for the big super chat.

01:30:13.000 I appreciate it.

01:30:15.000 So I says to him, Did you see Beardson say he has no affiliation with you or the AF movement? 0.97

01:30:20.000 What a bum!

01:30:22.000 I see the dude go into other people's streams and drop hard Rs for no reason. 0.99

01:30:25.000 Obnoxious punk with a volatile attitude and no self control.

01:30:29.000 And worst of all, he's shown to be disloyal, distancing himself from you and AF. 0.83

01:30:35.000 You obviously don't understand what's going on there.

01:30:37.000 Total misinterpretation.

01:30:39.000 The reason he said that, well, I'm not going to get into that, but it's not what you think it is.

01:30:44.000 You just don't get it.

01:30:45.000 Alpha Foxtrot says, Big 07, Alex Jones, and everyone at Infowars for hosting the debate.

01:30:50.000 Hey, yeah, totally agree. 0.95

01:30:52.000 Bob says, No one likes foreign entanglements, but that's the situation we're in because of the Cold War.

01:30:57.000 If we became isolationist, the world might literally devolve into World War III. 1.00

01:31:02.000 Muslims are a legitimate threat, as has become clear in Europe. 1.00

01:31:05.000 Bombing of churches, beheading of people attending mass. 1.00

01:31:08.000 Yeah, so keep them out of America. 0.99

01:31:11.000 See, here's the thing it's self inflicted. 1.00

01:31:14.000 We're bringing Muslims into these countries. 1.00

01:31:16.000 European.

01:31:18.000 Governments and NGOs will rescue refugees off the coast of Libya in rafts and bring them to Spain, Italy, France.

01:31:29.000 This is self inflicted, you know.

01:31:31.000 So, what you're saying really has no basis in reality.

01:31:34.000 The idea that there's this like Muslim conquest of Europe Muslims are immigrating into Europe because European countries won't protect their borders.

01:31:43.000 And Muslims are fleeing these places because they're being destroyed by America. 0.62

01:31:49.000 And America is basically. 0.60

01:31:51.000 Catalyzing World War III, not preventing it.

01:31:56.000 If anything, you've got it backwards. 0.56

01:31:58.000 What's going to catalyze World War III?

01:32:00.000 You think like America trying to go to war with Russia over the Donbass?

01:32:05.000 You think that's provocative?

01:32:06.000 America trying to go to war over the South China Sea or Taiwan or something?

01:32:10.000 America trying to go to war with every country in the world?

01:32:13.000 The only legitimate national security interest that America has that'd be worth fighting a war over elsewhere is defense and maybe nuclear proliferation and these like rogue nuclear states.

01:32:26.000 That's about it.

01:32:27.000 And maybe state sponsorship of terrorism, which is nil, you know, with the exception of ISIS, and that's sponsored by like Saudi Arabia and Israel.

01:32:35.000 So that's a total warped.

01:32:38.000 You're not living in reality, my friend.

01:32:41.000 If we become isolationist, what does that mean?

01:32:43.000 If we stop invading Iraq and Afghanistan, if we stop saber rattling with the world's great powers like Russia and China, then there'd be World War III.

01:32:55.000 If we weren't intervening at all times, you know, Russia might annex the Donbass. 0.65

01:33:01.000 Which would have world altering consequences.

01:33:04.000 And China might annex Taiwan and build artificial lights in the South China Sea.

01:33:11.000 This is a disaster.

01:33:12.000 It's the American regime that's standing in the way of global cooperation.

01:33:20.000 Not the reverse.

01:33:21.000 Beardson Smith says, stellar debate performance today, Nick.

01:33:25.000 I'm proud to be a Groyper, and I'm sure many others are this day too.

01:33:28.000 Hey, thank you very much, man.

01:33:31.000 I appreciate it.

01:33:33.000 So I says to him, this is great job tonight against Barnes.

01:33:35.000 Alex Jones' website is a hell of a platform to have your debate featured on.

01:33:39.000 My question is after the Therudoc comes out, will it ultimately be more good or more bad for you?

01:33:45.000 I pray for your success, King.

01:33:46.000 Love you.

01:33:48.000 Will it be more good or bad?

01:33:49.000 Remains to be seen.

01:33:49.000 I don't know.

01:33:51.000 Ryan B says Hindus actually believe Jesus, aka Issa, is a personality avatar of God.

01:33:57.000 He's just not the supreme God personality. 1.00

01:34:00.000 Great point, though.

01:34:01.000 All other religions respect or recognize Jesus' divinity. 1.00

01:34:04.000 While the Jews curse Christ.

01:34:06.000 Great debate. 0.99

01:34:07.000 You kept it really classy.

01:34:08.000 Thank you.

01:34:10.000 And that's an important point.

01:34:12.000 Slade says I think that most of the support for Israel from Christian Americans comes from this idea that the Bible tells them to and has little to do with geopolitics.

01:34:22.000 What are your thoughts about this and why do American Christians typically believe this?

01:34:26.000 Well, it's American Protestants that have this millenarian view of the end times, which is that Israel, this Jewish state of Israel, Will play an important role in like the rapture and Armageddon and all of this, which I just don't believe.

01:34:44.000 That's not a Catholic interpretation of the Bible.

01:34:48.000 So you're right, it is largely a religious thing and not a geopolitical thing.

01:34:52.000 Although a lot of people believe the geopolitical stuff too.

01:34:57.000 Falcons, as Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet of God born from the Virgin Mary, also in the second coming and miracles, bringing the dead to life, curing blind lepers. 0.89

01:35:06.000 They do not believe you as God or a son of God. 1.00

01:35:08.000 Yeah, that's literally what I said.

01:35:16.000 R says, born too late to explore the world, born too soon to explore the stars, born just in time to witness the rise of Nick Fuentes.

01:35:23.000 I'm flipping blessed.

01:35:24.000 Thank you.

01:35:26.000 Super Lion Arts is easy W for America first.

01:35:28.000 Great work, Nick.

01:35:29.000 Thanks.

01:35:31.000 Beardson Smith says, Barn's biggest failure, in my opinion, was when he said that Islamic control of the area would hurt Middle Eastern Christians.

01:35:39.000 In reality, if you ask any Middle Eastern Christian which side they are on, it isn't Israel. 0.98

01:35:44.000 True. 0.90

01:35:45.000 And there were a lot of PLO that were Christian because the Israelis, the Israeli Jews are abusive to Christians too.

01:35:54.000 Ten Rios is that passive aggressive shot that AFI took at you before he deactivated?

01:35:59.000 Bruh.

01:36:00.000 I know.

01:36:01.000 And here's the best part he could have just let it go, but he had to keep digging, man.

01:36:05.000 He had to keep saying something.

01:36:07.000 Just goes to show.

01:36:10.000 These simps are out of control.

01:36:13.000 It's a shame. 0.99

01:36:13.000 It's like that meme of the black guy with the gun. 0.99

01:36:18.000 Don't make me do this, but I will. 0.98

01:36:21.000 You know, all because he wanted to be defensive about his lust for e girls.

01:36:27.000 Will you do it too?

01:36:30.000 No, I don't. 1.00

01:36:31.000 Not even comparable, you bitch. 1.00

01:36:33.000 You just got to take your lumps, man. 1.00

01:36:34.000 You were wrong.

01:36:35.000 Fess up or become an enemy of the Republic.

01:36:44.000 Isaac says, Great job, King. 1.00

01:36:46.000 Total Zoomer domination. 0.83

01:36:47.000 Thank you very much. 1.00

01:36:49.000 Most based Groypers says, You crushed it tonight.

01:36:51.000 Total Groyper victory.

01:36:52.000 As soon as you get a chance, listen to the post. 0.98

01:36:54.000 Debate callers.

01:36:55.000 Infowars audience is extremely based.

01:36:57.000 Every caller said he won the debate.

01:36:59.000 Let's freaking go.

01:37:00.000 Kansas Zumer says it's nights like these that should remind us why America first is by the grace of Jesus Christ.

01:37:06.000 Inevitable.

01:37:07.000 You rocked it, man.

01:37:08.000 God bless.

01:37:08.000 Thank you, Kansas Zumer.

01:37:10.000 We love you, bro.

01:37:12.000 I appreciate it.

01:37:13.000 It's true.

01:37:14.000 With the grace of God, everything because of the grace of God.

01:37:18.000 Never forget that.

01:37:19.000 12 Pool Groypers says so.

01:37:21.000 Wait a minute. 0.95

01:37:22.000 If Israel gives voting rights to non Jews, allows open borders, they'll usurp Jewish interests in Israel? 0.99

01:37:28.000 Wow, can't believe you just made the argument against minorities having voting rights. 1.00

01:37:32.000 Yeah, right? 1.00

01:37:32.000 LMAO. 1.00

01:37:33.000 I know.

01:37:34.000 Based Biracial says, hey, man, you did a great job tonight.

01:37:37.000 It was a big debate night for me as well. 0.99

01:37:39.000 Safe to say we both kicked ass. 0.99

01:37:41.000 Keep it up. 0.99

01:37:42.000 AF is inevitable.

01:37:44.000 Well, thanks.

01:37:45.000 I don't know what debate you're talking about, but good job of you, too.

01:37:49.000 Based Homeschool Mom says, great job in tonight's debate.

01:37:52.000 Looks like you got a solid W. Great to see Nick the Knife back in action.

01:37:55.000 Thank you, Based Homeschool Mom.

01:37:57.000 Love you.

01:37:58.000 Nate says, you're right about his foreign aid stat being BS.

01:38:01.000 Given those countries are allies, we bought their peace.

01:38:04.000 But I think pointing out that we spent $5 to $10 trillion fighting these Zionist wars would end that part of the debate instantly.

01:38:11.000 That's true, but that's a little bit more contentious because then that turns into a debate about, well, you know, then you're debating that Israel got us to war in those countries and that it served their interest.

01:38:24.000 You don't need to do that to show that Israel, by far and away, gets more foreign aid than any other country and all other countries combined, you know, so.

01:38:32.000 Why go for something contentious when you could go for something solid?

01:38:35.000 You're right.

01:38:35.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:38:36.000 You're 100% right.

01:38:37.000 And that argument is valid and true.

01:38:41.000 But that's one of these arguments where.

01:38:43.000 That's why I didn't even bring up the USS Liberty.

01:38:46.000 Everyone was expecting me to go all in on that, but it's like.

01:38:50.000 Then that's a debate within a debate.

01:38:51.000 Okay, now we got a debate that was deliberate and get into the background with that.

01:38:56.000 And it's not always necessary to go there.

01:38:58.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:38:59.000 It's a very important part of the story.

01:39:01.000 But the debater has to be, you know.

01:39:06.000 Discerning in what's best to use.

01:39:08.000 You have a finite amount of time.

01:39:10.000 So you can't go through everything.

01:39:11.000 You can't argue every tangent.

01:39:13.000 You got to be sort of resourceful.

01:39:17.000 Trey says, Hey, Pooper, General Groyper, Trey, politics here. 0.98

01:39:21.000 Just wondering if you would address your sussy actions recently. 1.00

01:39:25.000 As a General Groyper, I have to keep you in check. 1.00

01:39:28.000 07, my favorite baka and good debate. 0.54

01:39:30.000 Well, hey, thank you, Trey, the General Groyper.

01:39:34.000 Not a Groyper general.

01:39:36.000 Not a Groyper general. 1.00

01:39:38.000 I mean, that's not going to happen because, as we all know, Trey is Jewish.

01:39:42.000 We love Jews, but, you know, Groyper General, I don't know.

01:39:45.000 It's kind of a conflict of interest.

01:39:46.000 He is more of a General Groyper.

01:39:49.000 I'm kidding, by the way. 1.00

01:39:50.000 He's not actually Jewish. 1.00

01:39:53.000 We just bust his balls about that. 0.96

01:39:54.000 Because I know, and the only reason I say that, normally I would just give him a hard time, but I know that if I say that and I don't clarify, people will say, oh, Trey's Jewish and Nick is hanging out with him. 0.97

01:40:07.000 Wow, so America first, more like Jewish first. 0.67

01:40:10.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:40:11.000 So.

01:40:12.000 That's a joke that we can make as sort of like an inside joke, but it's also one that if I say it, then people are going to be like, oh, really?

01:40:21.000 So that's a joke, by the way.

01:40:24.000 Inside jokes.

01:40:25.000 General Groyper, Trey Politics. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Well, thanks a lot, Sussy Actions. 1.00

01:40:30.000 I don't know, man. 1.00

01:40:30.000 You're the sussy one. 1.00

01:40:31.000 Trey Politics is the sussiest baka out of all the Groypers. 1.00

01:40:37.000 So I would turn it right back around to you and say, you need to address your sussy episode. 1.00

01:40:43.000 Series of episodes over the weekend when he was in Chicago. 0.88

01:40:47.000 I mean, this guy, I tell you, he's a trip, this Trey politics.

01:40:53.000 Chaotic, chaotic evil, chaotic neutral.

01:40:58.000 He doesn't care who wins or loses. 0.99

01:40:59.000 He's just, you know, totally insane.

01:41:01.000 But thanks a lot, Trey politics. 0.96

01:41:05.000 Sussy as vodka, General Groyper.

01:41:08.000 Tom AF says, When are you going on Memory TV? 1.00

01:41:11.000 Inshallah, Christian.

01:41:12.000 I'm not going to read that part. 1.00

01:41:14.000 We'll win for Allah. 1.00

01:41:15.000 Wills it? 0.95

01:41:16.000 Inshallah, inshallah. 0.62

01:41:19.000 May Allah awaken the people to the evil doings of Israel and the United States. 1.00

01:41:25.000 So true. 0.87

01:41:29.000 May Allah awaken the people to the sussy doings of trade politics. 0.95

01:41:35.000 Virgin Larry, this is so funny seeing you word for word repeat the same arguments you used on other debates and still not hearing a valid counterpoint. 0.86

01:41:43.000 It's only a matter of time before Zog updates the propaganda machine to address these arguments with more disingenuous misdirection.

01:41:50.000 We just need to stay ahead of the curve. 0.99

01:41:52.000 So true. 0.97

01:41:54.000 Hardcore Iron Noob says, damn it, and First Investments, I didn't want to destroy you, but you left me no choice. 1.00

01:42:00.000 Don't make me kill you. 0.99

01:42:05.000 Only a Sith deals on absolutes. 0.99

01:42:07.000 I will do what I must.

01:42:09.000 You will try.

01:42:12.000 Display name, so sorry if someone mentioned. 1.00

01:42:15.000 America First Investments, E girls are evil. 1.00

01:42:18.000 Well, in my view, the Groypers are evil. 1.00

01:42:21.000 Well, then you are lost. 0.94

01:42:23.000 Okay, display name, so sorry if someone mentioned it, but Barnes.

01:42:27.000 Contention that Israel opposed the Iraq war is false.

01:42:29.000 Yeah, I know.

01:42:30.000 I didn't even get to address that.

01:42:31.000 Alex cut in.

01:42:33.000 I was going to say, excuse me, BB Netanyahu himself went to Congress to testify about WMDs.

01:42:40.000 The Washington Post reported Israeli officials pushing us to invade, and John Kerry says Netanyahu, as a private citizen, supported the invasion.

01:42:47.000 They literally gave us false intelligence to bolster the case for the invasion. 0.82

01:42:50.000 Of course they did. 0.94

01:42:52.000 And it was Jewish neocons in the DOD, Office of Special Plans, State Department, Pentagon that pushed it too. 0.60

01:42:58.000 And, and, American Enterprise Institute, National Review, you know, and all the other major neocon publications, Project for a New American Century, and it goes on and on. 0.73

01:43:10.000 Pelio says, You either gave Barnes a flare up of cognitive dissonance or he was sweating trying to give an appropriate answer that his Jewish overlords would approve of. 0.79

01:43:18.000 Could have been both. 0.73

01:43:20.000 Onion Lord says, Hey, Nick, I've been trying to find the clip of you about Trump doing a 180 on the H 1B immigration visas.

01:43:26.000 What exactly happened in that situation?

01:43:29.000 Not sure what you're referring to.

01:43:32.000 Actually, Optics Respector says, huge win tonight.

01:43:35.000 I couldn't believe he kept harping on Islamofascism.

01:43:38.000 Israel treats Al Qaeda fighters in their hospitals because they've never attacked Israel.

01:43:42.000 Yep.

01:43:43.000 Sourdough Nibbler says, Nancy Pelosi's dad spoke Yiddish despite being a Catholic Italian.

01:43:50.000 Not a joke.

01:43:50.000 Interesting history.

01:43:51.000 Yeah.

01:43:52.000 Go figure.

01:43:54.000 Basterisk says, America is a rogue nuclear state.

01:43:57.000 Hot take check. 0.74

01:43:58.000 Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. 0.99

01:44:03.000 Eritrean American Groypers.

01:44:05.000 A shout out to all the black and indigenous Groypers of color in chat. 0.89

01:44:10.000 So true, of which there are a lot of them.

01:44:12.000 It's like 90%, probably.

01:44:15.000 Okay, all right.

01:44:17.000 That's our last super chat.

01:44:20.000 I am exhausted.

01:44:21.000 That's going to do it for me tonight on the show.

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01:44:33.000 I think we'll try to upload this debate on my website.

01:44:36.000 I think Infowars would be cool at that.

01:44:38.000 I'll ask them.

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01:45:23.000 As always, I'm Nicholas J. Fuentes.

01:45:25.000 Thank you, everybody who watched the show tonight and the debate.

01:45:30.000 Thanks to Infowars, Robert Barnes, Alex Jones, like I said, everybody in the audience.

01:45:35.000 Thanks to our super chatters tonight, subscribers, everybody that watches the show.

01:45:39.000 We love you guys, and I'll see you tomorrow.

01:45:41.000 Until then, have a great rest of your evening.

01:45:45.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

01:45:52.000 It's going to be only America first.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - May 25, 2021

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