In this episode, the boys discuss pornography and the Nazi's obsession with it. They discuss the effects of pornography on the brain, and whether or not porn should be legalized in the United States. They also debate whether masturbation should be legalized in America, and if it should be at all. Also, they discuss the dangers of pornography and masturbation in general, and why they should be banned in the U.S. This episode was produced and edited by Riley Bray. Additional editing was made by Annie-Rose Strasser and Alex Blumberg. Our theme song was written and performed by Micah Vellian and our ad music was provided by Mark Phillips. Additional music was mixed and produced by Matthew Boll and Matthew Boll. Special thanks to our sponsor, Vevolution, for producing the music and editing. The show was mixed by Patrick Muldowney and mixed by Ben Koppel. Music by Bobby Lord and Mark Boll. Additional music written by Christian Blanchard. Art: Mackenzie Moore Music: Hayden Coplen Editor: Matthew Boll Additional mixing and mastering by Patrick McElroy Jeff Perla Thanks to David Kwan and Ben Kolden - the production of the theme song for this episode was done by Haley Shaw . and the music used in the ad music is by Mark Boll and the sound design and score is by Ian McLeod , and the mixing and mixing is done by Mark McElton (credited to our theme song is by Matthew McElore by Jeff Perlan in this episode's music is courtesy of the band, and the beat by the band Mr. and is by for the music was produced by , by ) and , with additional mixing and editing and mastering by his band, on this episode is , courtesy of thanks to asmr_ & , the music is by our editor, and our editor is at which is . . of , our editor and ) with thanks to the excellent thank you, , we are , & szn_ and his amazing , , or edited by ), and ), this is ? and they are to thank you for
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00:00:18.000That was a reaction, and then they had the same react- After Hitler was completely defeated, they had the same reaction- Hitler was never defeated!
00:01:41.000The only reason the American government is relevant here at all is because their position on pornography is being contrasted with the Nazis.
00:01:51.000In the Weimar Republic, they did print pornography.
00:01:53.000So what you're telling me right now is that you would have sided with the Nazis, that you would have been in West Germany like a stodgy old fart, you know, with your arms crossed going, you know, well, they may have killed 6 million Jews, but
00:02:06.000You know, at least the Nazis had the right idea about not letting people draw pictures of boobs on pieces of paper.
00:02:13.000Like, the only reason the Americans introduced it is because the prior government was the Nazi government.
00:02:59.000If you think that the effects of porn on the brain are in any way chemically comparable to the use of drug abuse, no, you're making that up.
00:03:09.000Porn addiction can correspond to dopamine withdrawals and overstimulation and resistance to future stimuli, the same as
00:03:40.000The Chad move here is to overcome that weakness with self-control and discipline, not by projecting your negative experiences onto the thing that you have the bad relationship with.
00:03:53.000Yeah, really, really disciplined person exercising self-control.
00:03:56.000Since Vaush's anal brain only responds to previous data, I recommend you search, quote, your brain on porn, unquote.
00:04:02.000He's a perfect picture of discipline and self-control and self-mastery, right?
00:04:05.000I do find it funny that the idea that I am influenced by evidence is some kind of date at me.
00:04:12.000I thought we were supposed to be preserving the light of Western civilization here, boys.
00:04:15.000You know, empiricism was an Enlightenment thing.
00:04:19.000Yeah, I'm familiar with what you're looking at.
00:04:22.000There's been a lot of research on quote-unquote porn addiction, and I'm saying quote-unquote there because, again, it really just seems to be the same as the kind of
00:06:24.000This one coming in from Mr. Monster says, Dr. Jones, but do you think it's healthy to repress natural feelings and thoughts if you're going to disown masturbation and pornography?
00:06:35.000You're not repressing natural feelings, you're repressing unnatural feelings and channeling them toward a goal that will lead to a happy outcome in life.
00:06:46.000I'm promoting the interaction between the sexes, which is precisely what masturbation and pornography inhibit.
00:06:53.000I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.
00:06:56.000The people in this generation have failed to start families.
00:07:00.000They've failed to embark upon life for two main reasons.
00:07:04.000It's pornography and student loan debt.
00:07:07.000I'm proposing a way out of that, which does involve, by the way, self-control.
00:07:13.000This one coming in from Bezos Anti-Bullying Agency says, acting like porn desensitization doesn't exist is outright dangerous and harmful to young society, Vosh.
00:08:22.000You're having it done to yourself, you know?
00:08:24.000And if there are issues, you know, and you can find them across the board, tons of different mediums, not just pornography, but if there are issues, that's your responsibility to take care of it.
00:08:32.000I've had issues with like video game addiction kind of, and I pulled back on that.
00:09:13.000This one coming in from Bezos's Anti-Bullying Agency says, does Vosh at least concede free porn sites should have age restrictions to prevent young children from using their services?
00:10:35.000It's been two years I've just said email me it's no it's this is just it listen if the at the end of the day like what you want is he calls and he calls me like fat and then I say virgin and then we both hang up okay it's really boring all right at this point this is literally just about like
00:12:35.000Like, adherence to the national order?
00:12:37.000You know that, like, back in the good old days, we would just hit each other with rocks, right?
00:12:41.000And I guarantee you I can lift a bigger one than you.
00:12:43.000This deference, and it's always the weakest people who defer to it, by the way.
00:12:47.000The only reason that you weren't cast out from the tribe and left to be eaten by wolves for your degenerate anti-Semitism is because modern civilization coddles you like the infant that you are.
00:12:57.000The idea that you of all people would be relying on
00:13:56.000And SilentShout says, Vosh, if you're a Marxist, why are you defending oligarchs, student loans, debt, and women's sexual exploitation through pornography?
00:14:30.000Yeah, well, farming's- You know, when girls make it only fans, and they're raking in the cash every month, and men are being subjected to that?
00:14:37.000Yeah, who's really being taken advantage of?
00:14:40.000Because, and this is historically true, uh, illegalizing prostitution and pornography
00:16:09.000He had an epiphany and basically what happened is that he came up with shifting liberation away from economic liberation towards sexual liberation.
00:16:31.000And basically you had the homosexuals in San Francisco converting to economic libertarianism, and that became pretty much the default setting for the United States after that.
00:16:44.000It's basically sexual liberation, left-wing sexual liberation combined with right-wing control of the oligarchs' control of the economy.
00:16:54.000Karatakos Eustace says, Dr. Jones is right.
00:17:35.000I don't know who did it, but the data on that was literally done by some amateur researcher who wanted to post-talk justify his perspectives.
00:17:44.000The problem was that they were counting in the sexual partners had from people who were previously married, but then no longer were, meaning that you were adding to the perceived, uh, you know, sexual immorality of people who had already experienced marriage.
00:18:04.000There were also confounding variables to take into account and don't, hey, and by the way, if there are any people watching Rolling the Rise of this, okay.
00:18:10.000Do not make sociological claims if you're not ready to hold your standards to sociological standards, okay?
00:18:14.000So, you would also need to do aggressive analysis while taking into account a bunch of other factors.
00:18:20.000Younger people are more likely to have more sexual partners relative to their age, because people are more sexually liberated now, and young people are also less likely to get married.
00:18:28.000You also have to correspond this to different levels of marriage in rural versus urban areas, because urban people tend to have more sex, but rural people tend to marry younger.
00:18:36.000There are tons of things that correlate to this.
00:22:38.000Disinterested in fucking I promise you okay, they're always stressed out stressed out because life is expensive They don't have the time or the money to do the things they want and hanging out with people cost money, too You know, I mean you can go to a park but most people go out for food or whatever and that can be like a day's work Life is hard right now You know
00:23:00.000I don't think the research shows that.
00:23:01.000And just this is my anecdotal experience, but looking at porn has never made me want to fuck people less.
00:23:07.000It's made me want to fuck people more.
00:23:09.000Whenever I looked at porn, my thought was like, oh, that's cool.
00:23:12.000Yeah, I should like go on Tinder, you know, like, oh, wow, that's cool.
00:23:15.000Like my experience with it has not been like, you know, oh, now I don't need to.
00:23:47.000So I think that's more a reflection of people's tastes.
00:23:50.000Then it is the porn industry making people misogynistic.
00:23:54.000I think the issue here is like, you know, those tastes existed and have existed for a long time and that needs to be worked on, but they would be there without the porn.
00:24:03.000This from Just Call Me Oscar says, Dr. Jones, would you prefer to forbid porn at the federal level or reverse the 14th amendment and allow the states to decide?
00:24:15.000If you make me king of the United States, I will make that decision.
00:24:19.000No, I think that the laws should be, there are obscenity laws already on the books, they should be enforced.
00:24:25.000They will be enforced at a local level.
00:24:27.000That's, I think what we're seeing in the United States is a reversion to local autonomy, local hegemony over local culture.
00:24:38.000I think abortion is an example of this.
00:24:41.000I think it's going to be returned to the states.
00:24:43.000I think abortion is similar to what we're talking about here with pornography and the worldview that our friend here is espousing.
00:24:52.000It's the Hollywood privileged worldview where basically they want to rule the entire world according to their twisted standards.
00:25:02.000That basically was enforced by the Supreme Court and now we're seeing the Supreme Court is backing away from that and we're going to see the rise of regional culture and it'll ban abortion and I think it's also going to ban pornography as well.
00:25:46.000Which were not a decade of record crime.
00:25:48.000Um, no, I guess I'd have to depend on your chart.
00:25:52.000I mean, I was pulling that from a government source.
00:25:54.000There are probably some statistical sources that might have contrary numbers, but I got to wonder how much they're, how much they're factoring in other confounding variables, like the reporting rate.
00:26:08.000So I'd be willing to bet that reported rapes have gone up massively over the past century.
00:26:16.000But I don't think that's because rape has gotten more common.
00:26:19.000I think that's because in 1926, if a dame walked to the local station and said she'd been raped, the cops would beat her to death and then find her husband.
00:26:30.000I feel like there are other factors at play there.
00:26:33.000Nine out of 100,000 from a century ago sounds like comically low to me.
00:26:39.000Um, yeah, I mean, there are probably different sources, but I trust, I think it's gone down.
00:26:44.000This one, One Man's Chorus says, Vosh, the difference between sex in private and porn is that porn is meant for public consumption.
00:27:31.000If you look at tits online, like, I don't understand what moral, when I think of ethics, I think of like the system by which you assess whether something is harmful or not harmful.
00:27:40.000And I just utterly failed to demonstrate the issue here, you know?
00:30:07.000I just think it is a problem, but it is a problem that has gotten better.
00:30:12.000The more light there is, the more destigmatization there is on the porn and sex industry, the less abuse there will be.
00:30:17.000That's the case for basically every industry.
00:30:19.000We saw this during prohibition and alcohol production and consumption.
00:30:23.000The more de-stigmatized, accepted, regulated something is, the more legal it is, the less abuse there will be, because everything's above board, everything's in the books, and it's easier for people who are abused to turn to the police without fearing for their own profession, for their, well, their freedom.
00:30:41.000And I want to say, folks, we really do appreciate our guests, and sorry we did not get to all of the questions.
00:30:45.000However, if you want to hear more or read more from our guests, they are linked in the description.
00:30:50.000I'm going to be back with a post-credit scene in just a moment, letting you know about upcoming debates, as we have many juicy debates like this one coming up.
00:30:56.000But we want to say, most of all, thanks so much.
00:32:02.000I thought it was a strong performance.
00:32:05.000And I think he really hit the nail on the head towards the end there when he said, you know, it's this why, how, what, constant interruptions, this infinite regress, you know, and that we're not able to understand anything.
00:32:18.000And I think that's exactly what these guys are.
00:32:21.000It's, you know, he said it's sophomoric.
00:33:50.000Here you've got E. Michael Jones, who's a patriarch, a scholar, educated, respected, an author, respectful, and so on.
00:33:59.000And then on the other side, you've just got this fat loser, really,
00:34:03.000Fat, juvenile, smug, vulgar, degenerate loser who grooms children and is, is what, polyamorous?
00:34:13.000So, you know, it's almost like there's two levels to the debate.
00:34:16.000There's a debate itself and then you've got the debate sort of expressing itself through the people, through the people making the arguments.
00:34:44.000Elijah Schaeffer's team at The Blaze, on his show, sent Vosch an email and said, and I gave him his email, and said, hey, would you be down to do a debate with Nick Fuentes?
00:35:09.000We have tried to set that debate up through several moderators and, you know, Schaefer even talked at one point about paying Vaush and we both said, oh gosh, we'd hate to pay
00:35:19.000We've been trying to debate Vaush now for years and he won't do it.
00:36:06.000Not only does he know that he would get destroyed, but he knows that it would be a huge debate, it'd be big publicity for me, everybody would like me, and everybody would watch my show.
00:37:52.000It's gonna be in sunny Florida in the winter, which is just perfect It's like a perfect excuse honestly for like a vacation, you know I'll be down there for two weeks.
00:38:41.000So yeah, that that's your sales pitch follow me at Gavin telegram remember I'm on the air Monday through Friday 8 o'clock central 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time only here on cozy Thanks for watching.