00:01:16.000I thought it was pretty good, and then I watched some of your videos.
00:01:19.000But what really brought you on the show?
00:01:21.000Because, you know, I know a lot of people and I don't really think to bring them on, but I mean, you have some persistent fans who are DMing me, and I don't even reply every time because I'm not very good with the replying.
00:01:32.000But just, have you talked to True Dill Tom?
00:01:48.000I know you do kind of the shorter, you do some live streams, but I see you do some of the shorter, more edited videos about conservatism, about economics, about traditionalism.
00:01:59.000And so, just give us a short little introduction of what you're all about.
00:02:03.000So, I mean, most recently I've kind of taken to the neo reaction tradition, or the dark enlightenment, as it's often called.
00:02:11.000And so, I'm very interested in power analysis.
00:02:13.000But that's kind of like a more modern thing.
00:02:15.000Sometimes people are introduced from my older videos, and I have some videos that aren't all these kind of like 10 minute, like SJW debunked videos.
00:02:25.000I'm more interested in introducing ideas to people that they may not have thought of.
00:02:29.000So, you know, I have like a 50 minute video on monarchy and democracy, which is kind of an examination of the economics of monarchism and how a lot of this kind of economic decline under democracy is maybe something intrinsic to the system itself, for instance.
00:02:48.000And, um, So that's kind of the type of content I produce, really.
00:02:51.000It'll just be like 20 to an hour long videos just explaining ideas that I hope the audience hasn't heard of.
00:03:00.000If it's an idea that I think somebody is well aware of, like it's some really commonplace conservative talking point, then I'm probably not going to be inclined to make the video because that's kind of, yeah, I don't want to pollute the public space, as it were, with information that everybody's already aware of to just like circle jerk, you know?
00:03:19.000And, It's interesting because that's a very similar reason to why I started live streaming.
00:03:24.000And it's funny you mention that because what I see so often, and people get away with it like crazy, but you get a lot of YouTubers specifically on the right, and it's all the same cookie cutter stuff.
00:03:37.000It's all the same talking points, it's all the same issues, it's all the same format.
00:03:41.000And this is one of the reasons I've had difficulty finding a reason or motivation to produce the shorter content because I'm all ready to go, I'm all set up, but then I think, you know, I'm just introducing.
00:03:52.000Something that's already been said, and you see that same kind of thing where there, and I don't want to name any names, but you see some of the bigger YouTubers, and it's all the same.
00:04:00.000So it's good to hear because, particularly with the neo reactionary, the NRX, the neo reactionary kind of thinking, it is really esoteric.
00:04:10.000And I do think a big part of what me, myself, I think you and many others are doing in the right wing, maybe picking up the pieces from what remains of the dissident right from the last two years, is kind of decoding a very esoteric and inaccessible, I don't even want to call it an ideology.
00:04:29.000I think in some ways it almost transcends or is outside of ideology or beyond ideology.
00:04:34.000Which is the neo reaction, which is tradition or conservatism, the kind of ideas that you don't hear about from the Young Americans for Liberty or from the American Enterprise Institute or those kinds of think tanks, making the case for monarchy, making the case for those kinds of things that we just don't hear the other side of the coin.
00:04:53.000So I do appreciate that because I think, in large measure, we kind of share the same idea.
00:04:58.000And I think this is a good place to start on the conversation I just had my debate with Adam Kokish over the weekend, libertarian versus statism.
00:05:06.000And this is something that I think is another similarity between us, where we both came from a position of the free market economic type.
00:05:14.000I've seen you've done videos on the Austrian school.
00:05:17.000And I was a very similar, I followed a very similar development where, and I think a lot of people in this kind of segment of the right wing did as well, where we looked at the free market, we looked at the Austrian school, the libertarian kind of thing.
00:05:31.000And for many of us, we've come a long way from then over the past couple of years, a long way into a more traditional.
00:05:38.000And traditionally conservative, perhaps a more authoritarian mindset.
00:05:41.000And so, why don't we just start talking about that?
00:05:55.000So, you kind of do, you get this large group of guys on the internet these days, on the trad right, and they're coming from the libertarian corners of the internet, similar to how I did.
00:06:06.000There's these types of people, and they read like Hans Hermann Hopper's.
00:06:09.000The God That Failed, which is seen as kind of the magnum opus of like paleo libertarianism, I suppose.
00:06:14.000And in this book, he talks about how say minorities need to realize that if it wasn't for traditional patriarchal society, then they wouldn't be able to live their like alternative lifestyles, which is like a word Hopper always uses, and maintain that same standard of living that they get to in the Western world.
00:06:35.000And you know, this is obviously true and it's an important talking point.
00:06:37.000It's how I first became interested in traditionalism in the first place, I kind of realized.
00:06:43.000That liberty as itself is really just the byproduct of this long process of socialization.
00:06:52.000It's not the fact that liberty is the cornerstone of society.
00:07:57.000But I think True Delton makes a very good point about liberty being a product and the result of a process.
00:08:03.000I will say that for myself, and I think many people, the awakening was about demographics.
00:08:10.000If you looked at which populations supported the things that we liked and we thought were just basically axiomatic, things like free speech, things like private property, things like the right to bear arms, for example, we looked at those kinds of things and we looked at Who actually supported them in elections or otherwise, even just in gross terms, even if you look around the world.
00:08:34.000And after enough pattern recognition, after you look at enough data, you get enough of a feel for what's really going on, what underlies the systems, you start to realize there's no way that liberty is an end in and of itself.
00:08:49.000It's not the cornerstone, it is a product of things like Christianity, of things like the European race, of things like Western culture, Western history.
00:08:59.000As a product rather than a cause in and of itself.
00:09:02.000And so I think that is a big part of it.
00:09:06.000He brought up a kind of paleo libertarian mindset.
00:09:10.000Of course, Hoppe said he was a libertarian, but he believed that liberty could only be derived through a very statist, some might describe a fascist sort of a government, where you would have a sort of, in the same way that Lenin saw that the Soviet government would be a vanguard that would guide the transition from capitalism to socialism.
00:09:31.000In a similar vein, Hoppe said that there would be some kind of a state like Augusto Pinochet, for example, in Chile.
00:09:38.000Or others where a socialist or some kind of other society transitions into a more libertarian society.
00:09:46.000But of course, anybody who reads Hoppe or looks at Pinochet or looks at those examples understands that perhaps you can't have total political liberty or total political, or rather, liberty in any other sphere to achieve the economic liberty that we desired.
00:10:58.000I think you left off basically talking about how liberty, and forgive me because I don't remember the exact point, but you were basically explaining that liberty is the end result of a process rather than.
00:11:10.000The cornerstone itself of your worldview.
00:11:17.000My basic point was that these mores, like sexual purity, as it's sometimes put, resisting hookup culture and drug culture, these traditions find their justification and they find their justification in a wholly separate metaphysic that was abandoned by the modern world.
00:11:40.000And the genuine traditionalists would be seen as a.
00:11:45.000They wouldn't be able to reconcile their worldview because it is one that is entirely not concerned with the operational, with categorization, with measuring.
00:11:59.000And so, the point being that the libertarian liberals, modern conservatives, and so on, they have no metaphysic.
00:12:06.000They have no concern for the realm of being and are focused entirely in the realm of becoming, which is two concepts that are core to traditionalist thinking.
00:12:16.000So, my greater point is that that's how I really got into traditionalism.
00:12:19.000I came in through this materialist framework and started to understand that perhaps a more productive and economically fulfilling lifestyle could be lived with a nuclear family and so forth.
00:12:32.000And then I came to realize that these traditions, these social conservatisms, as they were, are much more valuable, not in themselves, but as the product of a larger sacral metaphysic.
00:12:45.000And so That's how I really got interested in it.
00:12:49.000Yeah, no, and I was just saying while you were gone, I think that is the basic path.
00:12:54.000I think a lot of people start to see the nuclear family and restrictionist immigration and Republican leadership, at least in America.
00:13:03.000We start to see those various pieces of a traditionalist puzzle come together or a traditionalist metaphysics come together at first in service of the materialist ends, at first saying, well, do you want free markets?
00:13:18.000Economic prosperity, well, you're probably going to have to have some degree of tradition.
00:13:22.000You're probably going to have to have a majority white population.
00:13:25.000You're probably going to have to have a virtuous population and that kind of thing.
00:13:30.000And then I think that leads to the discovery that, well, no, no, no, it's not, you're putting the cart before the horse at that point.
00:13:37.000You're starting to, at that point, you start to realize that perhaps the family, perhaps the virtue, perhaps that loyalty to a greater nation or a greater tradition, perhaps that in and of itself is valuable as opposed to just in service to.
00:13:52.000So I think it's one that there's a steady pipeline, they call it, from the libertarians to the more alt right, so called, the NRX, that kind of flavor.
00:14:02.000And I have to say that I've gone down that road.
00:14:05.000I know a lot of people have gone down that road.
00:14:07.000And you talk about the metaphysic of measuring.
00:14:11.000You talk about the metaphysics about being concerned with being rather than becoming.
00:14:16.000Can you elaborate on that and explore that a little bit?
00:14:18.000Because I know that myself is now a much more religious person.
00:14:51.000So the traditionalist diagnosis of the world and modern civilization, especially. begins with dividing the universe into two natures, that of being and that of becoming.
00:15:03.000And the former, that of being, sorry, that of becoming, representing all that which is physical, mortal, and temporary, where we are all situated right now, while the latter, that of being, is all that which is metaphysical, immortal, eternal, and so on.
00:15:20.000All that is not dependent on some time in history, as it were.
00:15:24.000Now, this realm of being is considered to be, Above and beyond the realm of becoming, we are in the world of becoming, but we seek to reach upwards towards the realm of being.
00:15:36.000And in the traditional world, this realm is the only referent for meaning and value at all.
00:15:44.000So it is often said that our tangible, visible world is hollow until life is breathed into it by that which is divine, intangible, and symbolizes the metaphysics of the realm of being.
00:15:56.000And so, unlike the modern conservatives and libertarians today that may lark about traditionalism, the traditionalist recognizes that any facet of living meaning, value, truth, goodness, and so on is meaningless until it can find meaning.
00:16:11.000Some external reference point outside of itself.
00:16:13.000Nothing on this earth is self justificationary, which is an epistemological term.
00:16:19.000And so, to harbor any value, it must have reference to that which is above ourselves.
00:16:25.000And so, unless it can approximate the divine in some way, unless it can serve as liberating from the human condition, I suppose, it is worthless.
00:16:33.000And this is kind of the traditional framework that everything, these concepts of value, truth, and meaning, they sit hierarchically at the top.
00:16:43.000In a place that is unearthly, and to get there, we must kind of disengage from our earthly lives and reach upwards towards that hierarchy, if you get what I'm saying.
00:16:53.000Yeah, no, I think that's very well said.
00:16:56.000I think that's a very well articulated idea of where traditionalists are in the sense that this is something I talk a lot about in terms of morality.
00:17:06.000When you talk about an external reference point, when you talk about something that is beyond the temporal, I think that's something that is intuitive to most people.
00:17:14.000I think that is, in a way, very instinctual.
00:17:18.000For how people become conservative or traditionalist in a way that perhaps they can't articulate totally in terms of the ontology of it, but in a way that I think we all understand what that means when we talk about modern material, temporal civilization as being unmoored, as being detached from any kind of foundation, being grounded in anything, those kinds of, like you said, the external reference points.
00:17:44.000When we talk about, for example, libertarian mindset, And what is the mentality outside of that world of being?
00:17:52.000What is the mentality outside of the divine or the higher realm?
00:18:01.000It's fulfilling the most base, the most primitive appetites or instincts.
00:18:06.000And I think we all recognize at some point, depending on our maturity, at some point in time, I think that is the instinctual and the intuitive feeling is there is more than this.
00:18:18.000This does not fulfill all of our appetites, our higher appetites.
00:18:22.000And so I think that's a very well articulated way to say we have to find a way to fall under this hierarchy or be a part of this hierarchy, be more ordered along a more transcendent plane.
00:18:42.000And I think that gets back to a bigger question, which is I know a lot of traditionalist thinkers that are more ideologues or maybe more based on history or more philosophy, people like Evola, people like Spangler, among others.
00:18:54.000I think people can understand that as traditionalists, but.
00:18:56.000Where does it fall with religion for you?
00:19:00.000Did you arrive at these kinds of conclusions from a totally religious place or a more philosophical place?
00:19:07.000Because you talk about the divine, you talk about things which I hear definitely echoes of Platonism and echoes of Aristotelianism and echoes of Thomism.
00:19:18.000Is it a religious thing for you or just more of a classically traditionalist kind of thing for you?
00:19:23.000Yeah, for me, it definitely is like a classically traditionalist thing.
00:19:27.000I used to be a Christian, I was extremely.
00:19:33.000I was teaching an apologetics class in my high school.
00:19:37.000But I definitely came at Christianity from an extremely evidentialist point of view, which is to say, I believed that a faith in God could be arrived at by evidence alone.
00:19:48.000And of course, this is an extremely modern way of thinking.
00:19:50.000And when the Old Testament was written, this kind of concept of an objective truth had yet to even be generated.
00:19:57.000So, of course, that didn't work out for me.
00:20:00.000And a lot of modern Christians will still hold on to that objective.
00:20:06.000You know, very recent doctrine of truth, and expect to be able to find God from it.
00:20:11.000And you know, maybe they're right, but for me personally, I definitely come at this from a more archetypical, philosophical, metaphysical point of view.
00:20:23.000And so, a lot of people get confused about what I mean when I say things like the divine and talk about myth and ritual, etc.
00:20:30.000And I think, in contrast to the modern world, what I'm really doing when I talk about these things is I'm adopting the epistemology.
00:20:40.000The metaphysic, the ontology of the traditional world, which is one that thinks very, very differently to how we think about things today.
00:20:47.000We think in a way that is very ostensive.
00:20:49.000We think about things in terms of, as I said before, categorization, measurement, operations.
00:20:55.000But the traditional world was again concerned with that which was metaphysical.
00:21:01.000And its ultimate means of expressing this was through myth.
00:21:04.000If you read the psychoanalysts, people like Joseph Campbell, who is a post trauma specialist, they give crucial insight into this.
00:21:14.000This phenomena of the human psyche is one that needs stories, narratives, tradition, and needs a performative, pragmatic, ritualistic view of truth.
00:21:26.000And so, man needs these things to guide himself through the stages of life, to guide him through the cruelest and coldest times of his life, but as well as the most desirous, sensational, and tenacious ones as well.
00:21:40.000Language itself, the very means by which we are communicating these ideas right now, and maybe even disagree on these ideas.
00:21:46.000Is one of symbols and themes of which carry the most inner and sacred knowledge of the human condition.
00:21:54.000And it is through these symbols and archetypes and the traditions and rituals that capture them that I believe we learn the most sacred and intimate knowledge of the human condition.
00:22:05.000And I think that the institutional sciences definitely fail in this regard.
00:22:10.000And so, naturally, one of the consequences of this is that in the absence of myth, in the absence of tradition, ritual, and the sacred, Which is something that I do account for in my worldview.
00:22:22.000I do believe there is something as sacrality.
00:22:26.000These represent our congregation around a mutual deference of violence, disorder, and so on.
00:22:31.000And conflict will inevitably follow when we get rid of these things because it is the first and most ancient means of deferring them.
00:22:39.000And it's also the most ancient means of self understanding and of knowing.
00:22:43.000And there are plenty of examples that I can go into to kind of illustrate the difference in thinking between the traditional world and the modern world.
00:22:51.000But that's kind of where I come from, and I come from it.
00:22:53.000A pragmatist, as a, as a, I come from it, I come at it archetypically, symbolically, and so on.
00:23:01.000Well, yeah, I think that's an interesting way to put it because I know that when I read a lot of Jung, for example, I feel like I get a lot of the same ideas.
00:23:10.000And to me, that's really the ultimate red pill.
00:23:12.000You know, people talk about being red pilled and kind of what that means is uncovering layers of illusion or perhaps putting things into a greater and greater context, a more proper context.
00:23:26.000Rejecting scientism, rejecting the physical sciences, for example, or pure empiricism.
00:23:33.000I think that is really the final red pill when you really start to think of, and it's very tough, I think, for people to wrap their heads around it or to find it, any traces of it in modern thought is to go back to the way people were thinking, like you said, metaphysically, mythologically, the way that people thought like medieval scholars or classical scholars, as opposed to now where, like you said, everything is about measurement.
00:23:57.000Everything is about purely the visual, the temporal, the material.
00:24:02.000As opposed to thinking about things operationally.
00:24:05.000So, I do agree with you in a big way that that's a very important strain for people to kind of acknowledge.
00:24:11.000It's a tough one because it's very hard for people, I think, to totally wrap their heads around it because it is like the air that we breathe.
00:24:18.000You know, I think there's C.S. Lewis writes about how one of the justifications for how we know there is God is because, well, we wouldn't even talk about concepts like justice and other things if they didn't exist in the same sense that a fish.
00:24:33.000Wouldn't be able to describe water because, you know, they're just in water.
00:24:44.000It's hard for people to wrap their heads around getting outside of that kind of thinking, getting outside that kind of physiognomy of thought, of perception.
00:24:53.000And so I think that's a big part of it.
00:24:54.000The archetypes, the metaphysical, we look at things purely in terms of the physical.
00:24:59.000And that's, I think, a pretty strong dichotomy there.
00:25:01.000So that's interesting, though, that you come at it almost.
00:25:05.000I don't want to say from a secular place, but from a non religious perspective, from, and I guess archetypal is perhaps the best way to put it, more philosophical perhaps.
00:25:13.000I consider myself, like I consider humanity to be religious.
00:25:17.000Like I think we are religious animals.
00:25:19.000And so I think my pursuit of this is religious.
00:25:22.000It's just not necessarily Christian in that regard.
00:25:25.000And I'm not one of these like anti Christian types of dudes.
00:25:27.000Like I think there's a lot to be extracted from Christianity.
00:25:32.000But if I ever identified as a Christian, it would be in a way that.
00:25:36.000A lot of churchgoers and so forth wouldn't acknowledge as being a real Christian because it would be from this pragmatic, ritualistic, performative standpoint when, like in Matthew and Luke, when Jesus says that it's either absolutely true or it means nothing, this kind of worldview is kind of incompatible with a lot of the current Christian tradition.
00:26:01.000And so that's probably why I wouldn't identify as one because I just come at it from a different perspective.
00:26:16.000And that's always been the rub for me.
00:26:19.000And I've had many conversations with people who describe themselves as cultural Christians.
00:26:24.000And I know where you're at is a far cry from people who would say, oh, well, they're a cultural Christian.
00:26:31.000And what that means is basically they adopt the trappings of Christianity, the basic tenets, ethics, morality, because it's traditional, because it's handed down.
00:26:39.000And so, I don't know if I'd go as far to say that you're culturally Christian, but I do find the same sort of rub in the same way, in the sense that to me, I've embraced Christianity.
00:26:52.000And look, I was never a very devout Christian.
00:26:55.000I was raised Catholic, of course, but I never was truly invested in it.
00:26:59.000But I came to realize that in the absence of the real belief, in the absence of believing it's absolutely true and literally true in many contexts, to me, it's almost useless in the sense that.
00:27:11.000Because I was probably where you were at maybe six or eight months ago when I read Young, and that was really what got me thinking about in a more metaphysical mentality, in a more mythological, more historical mentality.
00:27:25.000But then I thought to myself, in the absence of truly believing in a cosmic punishment, a cosmic judgment, something like that, to me it almost loses the value.
00:27:35.000And I get where you're coming at it that there's like a pragmatic value in it that, well, we embrace the rituals and the customs and the morals and the sacrality to it because.
00:27:46.000Well, there's a pragmatic reason to do it.
00:27:47.000We're doing it to get certain outcomes.
00:27:50.000But to me, that's almost insufficient for it.
00:27:52.000I mean, do you see where I'm coming from with that?
00:27:54.000Yeah, but I wouldn't describe it as like it's just useful because it allows us to do this or that.
00:28:01.000I think we are interwoven with this metaphysical system and we are inseparable from it.
00:28:06.000I just wouldn't say that there's this literal, discoverable God at the end of it.
00:28:11.000I think rather the divine and the spiritual realm of being, as we've just described, it's not something to be understood like a lot of people in the current.
00:28:28.000When I say pragmatic, there are a lot of problems that are put forward in the history of ideas towards the concept of truth in the process of induction.
00:28:39.000And they suggest that real knowledge isn't really possible.
00:28:41.000And then, of course, many people come and try and solve this, but there's never unanimous disagreement.
00:28:46.000And this is one of the benefits of living in the traditional world.
00:28:52.000One of the facets of it was that truth was justified by its referring to this metaphysical system.
00:29:00.000And so, my greater point being that I wouldn't say that I believe it just because it's useful.
00:29:07.000I would say I believe it because it's something that I identify with, it is something that I am entrapped in, interwoven in.
00:29:15.000It's just that I don't try to understand it in this kind of intellectual, rational, logical way.
00:29:22.000Operational way that the modern Christian, which I don't believe those ideas comport to the founders of the religion.
00:29:30.000I don't mean founders in the sense that they made it up, but I mean the original authors of the Old Testament.
00:29:35.000This concept hadn't really been generated until much later on.
00:29:40.000I think these things came to life through being ritualized rather than being believed in, just like how I might believe that two plus two equals four, if you get what I'm saying.
00:29:50.000Yeah, I'm kind of getting to where you are.
00:29:52.000It's just, it's always sort of puzzled me.
00:29:56.000Because I think that is a big divide within perhaps neo reaction or what you might call a traditionalist conservative is the difference between people who want like a Catholic theocracy.
00:30:07.000They want it to have the content of a particular religion be a big part of it as opposed to people who are.
00:30:13.000Because I think you could describe a lot of more atheistic, and I say atheistic, not atheist, but more agnostic or atheistic type traditionalists or neo reactionaries who would not say they subscribe to a particular religion, but But perhaps the expressions of that religion.
00:30:28.000And I don't really know how I feel about that because certainly, you know, I'm a Catholic.
00:30:33.000I've never had like a big religious experience.
00:30:36.000I don't come on the show and pretend like I was touched by God and I spoke in tongues and I, you know, collapsed on the floor or anything like that.
00:30:44.000But really, just because in the absence of that kind of authority and a substance to it, a content, as opposed to something that is perhaps more of an abstraction, I haven't really been able to.
00:30:58.000Feel how that works or consider how that works within a society.
00:31:01.000I mean, would you say, and I think this is maybe will help me understand, would you say that you would be a part of Christianity because Christianity is our cultural expression of those archetypes?
00:31:14.000Would you embrace Christian rituals and Christian heritage because that is your ancestral expression of the metaphysical, of the divine?
00:31:22.000Or would you say that because man is a religious animal, would you say that we should create different religions or can a religion be created?
00:31:30.000I mean, what is your view on it from that angle?
00:31:35.000Yeah, well, I would argue that Christianity is a structure, a meaning producing structure that can have life breathed into it, so to speak, and then to add that existential value that we crave as religious animals to our lives.
00:31:51.000And I was a very, very devout Christian earlier in my life.
00:31:55.000Because when I say high school, that isn't like 10 years ago for me.
00:32:05.000And so, for me personally, I have my own criticisms of Christianity.
00:32:10.000I'm very Nietzschean in a lot of ways.
00:32:12.000I kind of subscribe to a lot of those ideas.
00:32:16.000I think the most real part about the human experience is the longing for that sensation or that feeling which makes us the most powerful, as it were.
00:32:28.000And I think that Christianity, genealogically speaking, is often like a revolt against this noble aristocratic doctrine.
00:32:38.000Of power, and so I appreciate Christianity a lot, but I'm I also don't look to it as like the ultimate structure of meaning, and I don't look to it as like the ultimate truth in that regard.
00:32:51.000And I think something that could clarify is that you know, an example of extracting value from myth, and it's particularly a way that it would be done in the traditional world and contrasting it with how it's done in the modern world, would be something like the myth of Hercules.
00:33:07.000So, in the modern era, if a soldier like some Chris Kyle, if you get what I'm saying, does something brave and heroic.
00:33:13.000We would report on it simply by saying, you know, a soldier did, and then whatever that act of bravery was.
00:33:19.000While in the ancient world, we would report on our bravest and fiercest and most courageous warriors by saying, Hercules took to the battlefield.
00:33:29.000And it's important to clarify that, like, we wouldn't just give them that name or the label of Hercules, like to say, you are a winner or something, but instead you would become the manifestation of the eternal archetype of Hercules.
00:33:42.000You were an expression of a symbol or an idea, and that was not.
00:33:46.000That wasn't mortal or historical, by which I mean not dependent on a moment in history.
00:33:51.000And so the traditionalist doesn't consider truths to be just reflective of some tangible, ostensive thing like we are talking about, or maybe your conception of God is, but instead they are much deeper.
00:34:05.000And again, they resort back to this realm of being, as it were.
00:34:12.000Because there could be some unpacking to be done on what the term pragmatist means, because that has the connotation that, you know, Like, I believe in these ideas because it will give me more material consumption or something like that.
00:34:29.000But pragmatist is like an epistemologically dense kind of word, if you get what I'm saying.
00:34:37.000Yeah, well, I mean, there is a lot there.
00:34:39.000I'll put the Christian thing on hold for a moment because I do agree with you immensely about mythology.
00:34:45.000This is something that, and I'm sure you feel the same way, this is something I see all the time.
00:34:50.000And one of the most destructive things that is not understood, that isn't talked about, which is the destruction of our.
00:34:55.000National myths or other kinds of myths.
00:34:58.000You know, people who will say in history, oh, well, actually, George Washington didn't do this, or actually, it didn't happen quite this way.
00:35:06.000All the myths from your history class are wrong.
00:35:08.000All the myths about the founding fathers are wrong.
00:35:10.000And even to an extent, I feel this way about Trump because people say, oh, well, Trump did this thing bad.
00:35:35.000It's about what he represents, it's about the broader idea that is being conveyed by a man like Trump.
00:35:41.000When you see somebody who is six foot three, has $10 billion, a supermodel wife, I mean, there is a figure, there is a legend that is bigger than life.
00:36:18.000So I will say, you know, if we don't totally agree on Christianity and all that, I absolutely agree with you on mythology and how that can be more true than the tangible, than the actual.
00:36:30.000Because, and this is what we see in literature, this is what we see in history, and the modernists, both liberal and conservative, want to take everything and they want to make it conform to their scientism.
00:36:42.000They want to make it conform to, oh, well, actually, it didn't happen this way or that way.
00:36:52.000Yeah, I mean, it's insane to like some modern examples, because even though the world of tradition is gone, the religious nature of our character still lingers on.
00:37:03.000In modernity, we still need myth and some concept of divinity, but those things have shifted to something earthly and secular.
00:37:12.000So, for instance, a lot of the time in conservative circles, when we're defending the Second Amendment, we will resort to this argument.
00:37:19.000And I've heard people like Ben Shapiro make it, and it will be like, well, the Second Amendment wasn't written so we could go hunting.
00:37:25.000It was written to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government.
00:37:39.000Neither, I doubt for a second that Ben Shapiro literally fears a tyrannical government coming towards him and him having to really resort to his firearms to defend himself.
00:37:50.000That is a myth, that is a narrative, an archetype for him to extract value from.
00:37:55.000And there are examples of it on the left as well.
00:37:58.000And I think one of the conclusions that comes from this view of truth that we're putting forward is that there isn't really any truth anyone will.
00:38:08.000May that anyone claim to know without leaving political gains on the table, true because truth is a mean of extracting value.
00:38:15.000So, for instance, um, any powerful person, any you know, noble or tyrant, instinctively knows that there is no value in truth that is unarmed, which is a reference to Machiavelli in that sense.
00:38:29.000There is no truth unless it motivates power.
00:38:32.000So, an example of this would be like Black Lives Matter.
00:38:35.000Now, the last martyr in the movement that I can remember was uh. Alton Sterling, and he was a convicted pedophile who was resisting arrest while reaching for an illegally owned firearm.
00:38:48.000It's a case that would indicate to anyone that there is no propositional truth underlying their concerns.
00:38:55.000But the conservative effort to undercut this movement through appealing to propositional content, through just sending them the right Ben Shapiro article over at Daily Wire, it's completely futile because it doesn't matter if it's false.
00:39:08.000Because the narrative of Black Lives Matter, of white privilege, of colonialism, of intergenerational poverty, it serves as the mythos by which Black Americans, for the most part, Extract value, purpose, organization, and ultimately their identity from.
00:39:26.000And it isn't, you know, I personally would subscribe to that Nietzschean diagnosis that it's a Hurdley identity, for it is one of resentment, which is the French word for the hating sensation of being pushed down and unable to push upwards, which is to say that, you know, blacks as a people are kind of unable to identify along any positive averment.
00:39:47.000They are unable to draw purpose from anything positive, by which I mean like a positive in the propositional sense.
00:39:55.000And they can't, they don't have any affirmation of this life to create something new.
00:39:59.000And thus, what illuminates their values is simply an opposition to white society for the most part, a negative assertion against others.
00:40:08.000There is no empire to be built for them, so to speak, but simply a trans valuation against those that are more powerful.
00:40:16.000For example, if you take Jewish people, like when they're polled, a majority of them claim that what's most purposeful to their Jewish identity is not any achievement or project or positive article, which is.
00:40:27.000Kind of ironic because Jews actually achieve a lot, but they choose to not identify by their achievements as doctors, as lawyers, and as scientists and so on, but remembering the Holocaust.
00:40:38.000So they admittedly identify as nothing.
00:40:41.000And I'm kind of going on a tangent about this Nietzschean diagnosis, but the point is that this religious nature of our characters lives on in the modern world, even though the traditional world might be gone.
00:40:57.000Important that the left has transplanted the myths of the country.
00:41:01.000And when people talk about it, because I go on the show a lot and people say, Well, what do you think about this thing that happened 70 years ago?
00:41:08.000Or what do you think about this guy who took control of his country?
00:41:11.000You know, it was a really great thing or it was a really bad thing, depending on who you ask.
00:41:15.000You know, and to me, I will always say, Well, to rehabilitate certain characters or certain things is a task in and of itself.
00:41:23.000But we have to recognize the importance of it in the sense that the mythology that people are being brought up on today.
00:41:30.000Is as important, if not more important, than the so called education on the political issues.
00:41:36.000You know, what you say about, well, sending them the right Ben Shapiro article versus this mythology, for example, about white people that we're oppressors, slave owners, we committed the Holocaust, we're racist against black people, you know, that kind of thing.
00:41:51.000That's really the main issue that's at stake, is not so much telling people, well, you have to have the right opinions about the free market or the right opinions about this political issue.
00:42:11.000And when you look at what's being taught in the schools or what's in entertainment and media, the myth is always about, like you said, for minorities, whether it's Jews or blacks or whoever, it's a very destructive truth.
00:42:22.000It's a very destructive mythology about how they were oppressed and there's this animosity.
00:42:27.000And for white people, it is a mythology about how we did the wrong thing.
00:42:31.000Our virtues are equality and it's tolerance and it's these things.
00:42:35.000And white people have always been the biggest transgressors.
00:42:38.000And I'm sure that it would be a very different society we would be living in if we were still celebrating American heroes, if we were still talking about, rather than spending six months in school talking about slavery and Jim Crow, if instead we were talking about the frontiersmen who tamed the West and Lewis and Clark who were able to map the entire continent and the founding fathers who did all these great things, I'm sure it'd be a very different population.
00:43:03.000I'm sure we would be looking at immigration, for example, in a very different light if we saw ourselves in the vein of.
00:43:10.000George Washington, and then all these great men, Teddy Roosevelt, as opposed to your average slave owner, Adolf Hitler, you know, something like that.
00:43:18.000And, well, you know, it's a very, very controversial kind of a myth, but I think those are really important things.
00:43:24.000So that's a very big thing that we have to work on evolving.
00:43:26.000And it's something that Trump is doing very well.
00:43:28.000That's another area where I get so mad at people who they don't understand the significance of when he gives a speech and he talks about American heroes.
00:43:37.000This is something Patrick Buchanan, for example, writes about a lot in his columns, talking about American identity.
00:43:44.000Not totally in the context of the civic religion of the American creed, and not also totally in the racial component that the alt right knows about, but in the context of America's legends, its heroes, its myths about the founding fathers, these historical events.
00:44:00.000And it's something that you hear in many Trump speeches and many Trump advertisements.
00:44:03.000And I think that's so important that we rebuild that self perception, that identification with those broader virtues and goals and heroes, as opposed to what the present course is for the so called right wing, which is.
00:44:17.000You know, read this economic textbook.
00:44:19.000Read Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt.
00:44:22.000And if everybody reads Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell, we're going to fix all the problems.
00:44:51.000And, you know, he is, sorry, he's a libertarian, but he contributed some of the most valuable research to this debate that I know of.
00:45:00.000And that was a study called Understanding Libertarian Morality, where he took a sample of 100,000 people and he administered them personality tests.
00:45:10.000And they moved beyond just the big five personalities.
00:45:13.000So they gave like a real diagnosis of conservatives.
00:45:17.000Liberals and libertarians, or at least people who self identify as those things.
00:45:21.000And the biggest predictor of each political ideology was their personality, their agreeableness versus their conscientiousness, and so on.
00:45:31.000So it seems that what your political ideology is, is a manifestation of your competitive strategy in the world, which is to say, like who you are really and what you identify as is really your political ideology is another expression of that.
00:45:48.000And I think another thing that is also like lost.
00:45:52.000In modernity, which needs to be returned, is the idea of asceticism.
00:45:55.000I think asceticism is a means of reaching this realm of being we were talking about, particularly in the Stoic traditions and their offshoots, like Christianity is very Stoic in this regard.
00:46:06.000And, you know, asceticism isn't just self mastery, self discipline, but it's the ultimate, well, it's not the ultimate one, but it's a great expression of the will through the denial of sensuality and pleasure, indulgence.
00:46:23.000And so, the aesthetic sense for this reason could be said to be a reversal of the sense.
00:46:29.000It's to look where one's desires point themselves and to say no.
00:46:33.000And I think this is where you get a lot of this degeneracy in the modern world.
00:46:37.000This idea that someone's sensuality is the ultimate good and the ultimate thing that should be achieved, and it's people kind of just losing their will in many ways.
00:46:48.000And you know, philosophers usually think of the aesthetic as some instinct or sense of the most favorable conditions of highest spirituality.
00:46:57.000While in art, you know, Nietzsche is famous for saying that it either means nothing or too much, however, it means so many things to so many different people.
00:47:07.000But the aesthetic can never be vacuous, it can never be a denial of everything, it must always be.
00:47:12.000Express the will to something, even if it is the will to nothing.
00:47:16.000So, for instance, fasting is just the most basic example of how you can demonstrate and express your will simply by having a will towards nothing, having a will to the denial of eating.
00:47:30.000And Nietzsche was famous for saying that nothing is more ideal than, sorry, saying the will to nothing is more ideal than to not will at all.
00:47:40.000And I think this is really what the aesthetic really is.
00:47:45.000To assert one's will is more purposeful and it's more meaningful, even if one's will is to will nothing, as is the case with the ascetic ideal.
00:47:58.000But yeah, I think it's very important that we return to this concept of the ascetic instead of just having this society that's just premised on achieving as much sensuality as you possibly can before you die.
00:48:15.000Opposite of that, which is giving in, as opposed to willing, as opposed to restraining.
00:48:20.000It's simply giving in to the pleasure or trying to accumulate the pleasure.
00:48:26.000And I think that, you know, I'm obviously not a total Nietzschean because I am a Christian, but what really resonated with me was his description of the last man, because of course this describes, this was the perfect descriptor 100 years ago of the people that surround us today, the walking mozzarella sticks that you see in the shopping malls, that you see in the streets today, talking about.
00:48:47.000Magazines talking about vacuous, vapid pop culture things.
00:48:53.000I think that's a great answer to nihilism.
00:48:55.000This is something that so many people ask about and talk about, which is to say that once you get, I think, a broader and a more global context for what we're experiencing, which is modernism, which is leftism, which is, you know, it goes by many names, what's happening, I think the first, perhaps, feeling or instinct or anxiety is, well, what is remaining?
00:49:19.000We smash down all these things that surround us that we've been brought up on.
00:49:24.000And what is remaining, I think that is a great thing, which is we don't really have an idea of what comes next, but at the very least, we can will, like you said, towards nothing.
00:49:32.000So I think you're very right about that.
00:49:35.000And it's basically true because you look around, and that is the modern man is just constantly giving in to the impulse, constantly giving in.
00:49:45.000That's what a degenerate is, is basically a hedonist.
00:49:48.000And in all areas, in all areas of consumption.
00:49:51.000I remember when I was in college, that's when I really rejected modernism as opposed to just leftism, when I saw that my life was just sleeping and eating and effectively just consuming.
00:50:02.000I mean, I boiled it down, abstracted it out in my head to, well, it's really just about consumption.
00:50:07.000It's about consuming a YouTube video, consuming food, taking a nap so I'll be ready for the next day of consumption.
00:50:14.000And that's what it is for most people if it's about making money or all the rest.
00:50:18.000And so I think perhaps that is the first and best step towards a rejection of modernism is simply.
00:50:24.000Restrain the urge to consume, restrain the urge simply to give in to the pleasure principle, simply give in to impulse.
00:50:31.000And so I think that's a big part of it, absolutely.
00:50:33.000And of course, the Christians have a great history, a great tradition of asceticism.
00:50:39.000And in that area, it's also, I think, a big part of getting rid of the distractions.
00:50:45.000I think so much of the modern world has been constructed effectively to distract us from the greater questions, the more existential feelings, which is to say that the moment that we feel an existential or any other pain, there's stimulation for that.
00:51:01.000And additionally, specifically now, with the advent of phones, you really think about this.
00:51:07.00010 years ago, 15 years ago, I remember being a kid and being in the waiting room at the doctor's office, and you just had to sit there and you just had to sit there and think or entertain yourself.
00:51:19.000And in those moments, you can kind of grasp something more.
00:51:22.000You can kind of grasp at the strings of something beyond because you're just kind of in limbo there.
00:51:29.000Now, it's constant stimulation to the point where there is never a moment where the eternal, the divine, can even be breathed into you because it's visual stimulation, it's auditory stimulation.
00:51:41.000We've got Earphones, I have them on my ears right now, so I can hear you.
00:51:45.000But we've got earphones on our ears, a screen in the face.
00:51:50.000And if there isn't, we're creating it.
00:51:52.000And so perhaps that is the solution, maybe that's why we see so much of a strain of primitivism in the right wing now, is an expression of that, getting away, resolving to end all of that, right?
00:52:10.000A cleaning of the slate, because this is something that.
00:52:15.000Again, it's something people feel intuitively.
00:52:17.000They can't articulate it in the proper or precise words, but they understand when we talk about the noise, the tremendous noise of modern society.
00:52:27.000I remember I used to work at UPS, and I worked from like 10 p.m. to 3 a.m., and I would come home and lay awake at night, and my ears were like ringing with the sound of industrial noise, the factory.
00:52:40.000I would close my eyes, and I felt like I was there.
00:53:06.000I think that was a great way of putting it.
00:53:07.000Something else that I wanted to talk about, which is something that I wanted to kind of hit home with this idea that the libertarian traditionalist is a walking contradiction, is because one of the oldest traditions is sovereignty.
00:53:20.000So, you know, that in the liberal tradition, which, you know, whatever, the tradition of revolting against tradition, sovereignty is justified by some deferral between the citizens and the sovereign vis a vis natural law.
00:53:36.000But in contrast to Hobbes, you know, Locke, Rousseau, and Sargon of the card, the traditional view, it sees that kings find their authority again in the divine, in that which is above them, not in that which is below them, the citizenry or us, which is to say that.
00:53:53.000In the traditional world, a law's authority could only be considered legitimate if it could be traced back to some non human and transcendent source.
00:54:02.000And so, throughout the mythos of most of the world, authority is predicated on and is feared because of its non human and unearthly quality, a quality that is above politics.
00:54:13.000So, the king's authority was not just an expression of those that he rules over.
00:54:17.000And his authority wasn't respected because of his courage or his wisdom, his intelligence, or other secular virtues, but instead, traditional civilization and its rulers had a metaphysical character, one that could find reference to the infinite nature of, again, the divine, or that of being, if you like.
00:54:37.000And so, that's another thing that I find is interesting is that once you take the tradition pill, as it were, it's kind of hard to then reject the oldest or one of the oldest traditions, which is sovereignty.
00:54:50.000Well, yeah, and that's something that we see today where I've certainly, it's resonated with me when you read somebody like Dimestra and you talk about how there really is no such thing as authority.
00:55:04.000All these kind of fallacious and temporary notions about legitimacy for our rulers kind of go out the window the minute somebody starts asking too many questions, right?
00:55:16.000Like, well, is the Constitution really legitimate?
00:55:21.000What the founding fathers said, or what they intended, or what it says at the time, or what it says now, or what they would think now.
00:55:27.000And once somebody starts asking, once somebody asks a further question, then all of a sudden the government, which ensures order, which is the most important thing, the highest virtue, pragmatically, then all of that goes out the window.
00:55:41.000Now we no longer have a viable government.
00:55:42.000And so I think that's a very true thing when we talk about libertarianism, and even democracy, we can't have this conception of.
00:55:52.000This flimsy kind of authority that's based on, like you said, the competence of the ruler, or that's based on how well the laws work, that's based on some component.
00:56:03.000I always laugh when I talk to my Reddit tier shitlib friends and they say, well, we just want to make laws that are working.
00:56:10.000And so we'll have some managerial bureaucrat write a law and then we'll do a study and we'll see if it works.
00:56:17.000When in my view, and I think probably in many people's views, I know you're an absolutist, we believe that the law should be.
00:56:24.000So obscure, so old that people don't remember where it came from.
00:57:31.000Now I'm an anarchist, you know, or you're a right wing person.
00:57:34.000And there's this sort of collapse into just spurgy Patrick Little territory.
00:57:38.000And with traditionalism, it's kind of the same thing.
00:57:41.000I don't know if it's unfortunate or, you know, just maybe it's the way it is that people tend to follow principles through to their logical conclusions that you eventually have to get back to the fundamentals, the most traditional, and sovereignty is right on the money.
00:57:54.000So it looks like we're, and do you have a response to that?
00:57:58.000No, I was going to say you make a really good point about how the liberal will kind of fall down this well, and at the very bottom of it lies anarchism.
00:58:06.000Because I do believe that there's only absolutism or there's anarchism, and there's no in between point that isn't on its way to either one of those things.
00:58:15.000So, for instance, when you take someone like Sargon, the liberalist, he will upload a video about some liberalist principles.
00:58:22.000And then you will get dozens and dozens of ANCAPs making response videos to him about how, well, if you believe in individualism, then how come the state is an exception to this?
00:58:33.000I mean, if that is that you can't start with a revolt against authority and then not expect the logical conclusion to be no justified authority.
00:58:45.000Brand of liberalism from just subsequent reiterations of that same process of liberalization.
00:58:51.000And it's completely arbitrary to just stick at that one point.
00:58:54.000And this is the dilemma of the conservative in America as well, the defending the initial liberal revolution from its subsequent reiterations of liberalization.
00:59:04.000And the end result, when taken to its logical conclusion, will be anarchism.
00:59:10.000But of course, I don't believe we will get there.
00:59:11.000I think that people see the incoherent political process, and what they do is instead of Just being happy having to serve their imperial functions so incoherently, they will try and slowly collect absolutism through creating like a loyal political class.
00:59:30.000And a lot of the time, this is said in the NRX sphere as the high low versus the middle.
00:59:35.000I made a video on a concept called bio Leninism, which is like a more explicit example of this occurring.
00:59:42.000And so, yeah, I think that there's either anarchism or absolutism, and anything in between is really just.
00:59:49.000Being on its way to one way or the other.
00:59:52.000So, yeah, I think you make a good point about things having to go to their logical conclusions like that.
00:59:57.000Well, yeah, and especially with liberalism.
00:59:59.000I mean, I know I talk to my conservative friends, and I'll talk to people who purport to be educated on conservatism.
01:00:07.000It's funny to me because I talk to people who go to college and they don't know this stuff.
01:00:10.000I mean, just an aside, you know, a brief little rant here.
01:00:15.000People look down on me because I don't have education, I'm not in school.
01:00:18.000And then I talk to the people that are educated in Politics, people who are journalists or they're academics or whatever, and they've got years and years of political science study, and they come back and they don't know anything.
01:00:30.000And anyway, but I'll talk to people like this and they'll say, well, you know, we're just like moderate conservatives.
01:00:38.000We're like feminists, but we're not like third wave feminists.
01:00:42.000We're the real liberals, like you said, the Sargon of Akkad people.
01:00:46.000And of course, the argument is always that these ideologies are dynamic.
01:00:52.000What is liberal today is conservative tomorrow.
01:00:55.000The slippery slope is true 30 years ago, and then you go back 30 years before that and 30 years before that.
01:01:01.000And so, what conservatives want to do really is just set back the clock.
01:01:04.000They just want to turn back time like 20 minutes and then let it run again, as if the inevitable conclusion, the inexorable conclusion, will not be the same thing, which is to say, okay, let's say we reel it in a little bit.
01:01:18.000Well, what do you think is going to happen 15 years?
01:01:20.000Who's to say that that arbitrary stopping point is anything more than your?
01:01:46.000And that's where conservatives have to really get real.
01:01:49.000They have to really get tough about that kind of thing.
01:01:51.000Because I know a lot of people get a little kind of iffy about this kind of thing.
01:01:57.000I don't know what it is, maybe perhaps because it's so alien and outside even the American or modern Western experience to talk about absolutism or that kind of thing.
01:05:06.000Very rarely do you get to talk to an NRX person who really knows their stuff and really has, I think, an ideology and maybe some thoughts and ideas which are truly outside of.
01:06:49.000And don't get me wrong, I love the dopamine rush.
01:06:52.000I love when people tell me I'm smart because it's true.
01:06:55.000But what I really strive to do is not to sound smart.
01:06:58.000What I strive to do is to make these ideas, which you don't really hear too much in the mainstream.
01:07:04.000I mean, the point of doing America First every night is to say, This is an alternative, even to what you see on Fox News.
01:07:10.000As much as I love Tucker, it is an alternative to that.
01:07:13.000And package them in such a way, and not in a condescending way, but package them in a way that somebody who doesn't read philosophy in their spare time might be able to digest.
01:07:23.000And what's regrettable about metaphysics and traditionalist thinking is that in order to really grasp it, it takes a certain vocabulary, a certain lexicon that you have to get used to.
01:07:36.000It takes a certain, these are like neural pathways.
01:07:40.000In your mind that have not been explored yet because you've gone through school where they just teach you the status quo in terms of thinking, in terms of epistemology, in terms of ontology.
01:07:51.000That when people start talking about these things, it's a mind bend.
01:07:54.000And when I started to get into it, even for me, it's tough to wrap your head around a completely different way of thinking.
01:08:02.000And so that's the one thing that's a little bit tricky.
01:08:19.000But that's going to be my project, I think, over the next year, year and a half, while we gear up for the 2020 election when things are going to get hot again, is figuring out ways that we can take these ideas of traditionalism, of traditional conservatism, and making them accessible for people in the way that the libertarians do.
01:08:38.000Because that's what I noticed about Adam Kokesh and about Leadership Institute and all these other think tanks you go there.
01:08:48.000You're just some dumb kid who graduated high school?
01:08:50.000Yeah, here's the effing textbook on libertarianism.
01:08:55.000And you got people that are 21 years old.
01:08:57.000You probably got 50,000 millennials, Generation Z people who could quote chapter and verse Murray Rothbard, Friedrich Hayek, and all these thinkers that you would have never heard about 10 years ago.
01:09:09.000And that's the result of a very vigorous and well funded, well oiled machine, which has taken these.
01:09:15.000Just like hokey pokey economic ideas from the Mont Pelerin Society and has channeled it.
01:10:12.000You know, in the end of 2012, when they're in the arcs and they say there's a new highest point in the world, it's Cape Hope in South Africa.
01:10:22.000And they set a course to build the new society.
01:10:26.000Maybe it'll be Australia for the white race.
01:10:28.000Maybe after we're, you know, Drowning figuratively in the third world, it'll be like we'll be on our arcs in the ocean and then our archaeo futuristic, archaeo primitivist arcs.
01:10:42.000And we'll be looking where's the last stand of the white race?
01:10:46.000Where's the compound that we're going to set our roots down?
01:10:49.000It's in Australia, it's with True Dill Tom and with Lanius and with Rawhide 76, right?
01:11:15.000Let's see, we've got Anglo Rebel who says, I made a deal with one of my friends that involves them reading a book of my choosing, watching your Amaranth speech, and a political video.
01:11:26.000Out of all your episodes you've made, which would you say would be the best to red pill and covers all the bases?
01:12:27.000I mean, there's not really one that covers everything.
01:12:29.000So it's really tough to say what is the one video.
01:12:34.000You're going to have to use more than one video, I'm afraid.
01:12:37.000But that would probably be a good place to start.
01:12:39.000You could just browse the titles and they'll tell you what's going on in every video.
01:12:45.000So sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but really, I mean, I just.
01:12:49.000Depends on what you're looking for because there are so many things that are episodes in and of themselves about Catholicism or about immigration or about the rootless transnational elite or about, you know, there's many issues at stake.
01:13:03.000And the show has also evolved over the course of two years.
01:13:05.000I mean, I went from like a wignat, I would describe myself as, maybe in like September of last year to now.
01:13:12.000And not like I was totally like a LARP or anything, but I was much more out there, I think.
01:13:18.000But I found a way to moderate the message a little bit.
01:13:22.000Joe the Croat says, Why I hate the Daily Brap?
01:14:01.000Look, if you're going to revolt against my sovereign authority, my divinely established authority over the Discord, it's just not going to look well for you.
01:14:11.000So I'll try and get around in the Discord more these days.
01:15:01.000For what you're doing, the pay is all right.
01:15:03.000I mean, you have to look at it a certain way.
01:15:05.000And there's great opportunities for advancement.
01:15:07.000I mean, if you want a good job, UPS is the way to go.
01:15:11.000Unfortunately, I was working at the Chicago Area Consolidation Hub, where you had a large population of people working there from Gary, Indiana, and the south side of Chicago.
01:15:23.000And that's not a problem in and of itself.
01:15:25.000Look, I have no problem with Chicagoans and Garyans or anything like that.
01:15:29.000But the job I was working is you unload the trailer.
01:15:32.000You go into the truck and you unload it.
01:15:35.000It's one of the largest distribution hubs in the city or in the world.
01:15:39.000I think it is the largest in the world.
01:15:41.000And the volume is crazy where they pull in the trucks.
01:15:44.000You got to unload the packages as fast as possible onto the conveyor belt so they can then be distributed to the proper trucks or other facilities.
01:15:53.000And I remember I would jump in the trailer, and what these people do, who are a little bit careless with their work, is instead of doing it the proper way, which is what you would think boxes stacked.
01:16:05.00010 feet tall, all the way down the trailer, is you start from the top.
01:16:09.000You take the box off the top, you put it on the conveyor, and then you do it from top to bottom, and then you start on the next row.
01:16:15.000Well, these people, they cut some corners, right?
01:16:17.000So they're pulling big, huge boxes from under, and they wait for all the boxes to collapse.
01:16:23.000And they count on you just running out of the trailer quickly enough that you don't get, like, your head chopped off.
01:16:30.000They pull the biggest box out from under, and the wall, they call it the wall, collapses on you.
01:16:36.000And these boxes, some of them are 140 pounds.
01:16:40.000Now, that's not a big deal if it's on the ground, but if it's coming at you, it's dropping at, what, 9.8 miles per hour, I think is what I remember from physics, from 10 feet high.
01:18:15.000I'm not a white nationalist or anything like that.
01:18:18.000My belief is that an ethnic core is necessary for a nation to survive.
01:18:22.000That means a majority or a supermajority.
01:18:25.00070, 80%, you know, we can't really like calculate these things, but the more homogeneous the core is, the better.
01:18:33.000And you see this in China, you see this in Russia, you see this all over the place.
01:18:36.000Even America was only 90% white at its peak in the 1960s.
01:18:43.000And so I'm not like anti minority or anything like that.
01:18:45.000I just think it's in the best interest of minority Americans and white Americans that you have an ethnic core, that there's some degree of homogeneity.
01:20:54.000Pragmatic Culture says, true thick dong here on why muck farming is absolutely based.
01:21:01.000Well, thank you for that insightful comment.
01:21:04.000But no, there is a meme going around about muck farming, and it is about Aestheticism, not to be confused with aesthetic, asceticism, which is A S C E T I C I S M. People talking about muck farming in medieval times, being an illiterate peasant, it's better than what we have now.
01:21:24.000And people might say, oh, but you're not a peasant.
01:21:27.000Well, yeah, but we're used to it, so it doesn't count.
01:21:30.000But point being that in objective terms, a muck farmer is probably more likely to be saved than we are.
01:21:38.000Would you rather be a muck farmer for 50 years and then die and go to heaven?
01:21:42.000Or would you rather be some shit lib boomer eating on your yacht or whatever with a stupid fedora and then you die and you're in hell forever?
01:26:22.000But in order to truly believe in the authority of the divine, the legitimacy, the truth of the divine, I think you have to give it content.
01:26:30.000I think you have to give it substance, the divine content.
01:26:34.000And that is with a particular religion.
01:26:36.000And I think the correct one is Christianity.
01:26:38.000So maybe you should read some Aquinas.
01:28:02.000Pays the private security forces to guard the perimeter, and he watches an advertisement to turn on his faucet in the morning, and he watches an advertisement to fill his cereal bowl up with milk, and he's a free man.
01:28:15.000But is he really free if he's on drugs?
01:28:41.000It's difficult to quantify to say, like, well, he has more political capital now than then, but he definitely, you look at the polls, 90% approval or 88% approval within the Republican Party, among Republicans.
01:29:01.000You know, perhaps if he was newly inaugurated and he tried to push the entire party in one direction, There could be some resistance.
01:29:10.000But now, when you have unanimous unanimity within the party that Trump is a representative of where we're at, it's much more difficult for the Koch brothers, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell to resist the president, the will of our God Emperor.
01:30:42.000Who is not a narcissist could sit down every night for an hour and talk to themselves?
01:30:48.000I mean, I'm in a room alone just talking to a camera, and I guess you're watching, and have it in their head.
01:30:55.000People will sit down and they will watch and they will pay to hear my opinions.
01:31:00.000You have to be kind of a narcissist to think that.
01:31:04.000There was somebody who said that about the presidents because people said, oh, well, Reagan's a narcissist and Obama's a narcissist.
01:31:11.000And they said, well, all presidents kind of have to have this personality.
01:31:15.000Trait that if you think, well, I can run for president, that has to be the case.
01:31:19.000And I think the same is true with this.
01:31:23.000But of course, I have the humility that I am young.
01:31:26.000I don't have the experience, and I'm a believer in experience.
01:31:30.000And because I'm an extremely observant person and a very smart person, I'm able, I think, to advance more quickly than many people, or I have more curiosity.
01:31:42.000But we're all students, we're all learning.
01:31:45.000And so, where you can learn, you got to read old books.
01:34:13.000Al Sabadi says, oh, he's saying something in Latin.
01:34:17.000I have to say, I haven't been on the Latin studies, and he sent me the book to learn Latin.
01:34:23.000It's very difficult because I've been going through it, I've been trying to learn it.
01:34:28.000But the book, the philosophy of this book, which teaches you language, is that it doesn't actually teach you, it's just in Latin, and you're supposed to learn it.
01:34:39.000By reading it in the same way that, like, I guess probably foreigners learned English, which is just, I forget, there's a name for this approach.
01:34:50.000But so I've been reading it and it's, I've been getting like the gist of it, but to like memorize and really incorporate it has been difficult because it's just, it's all in Latin.
01:34:59.000There's no English that says, well, this is what this means.
01:35:03.000And my brain doesn't really work that way.
01:35:05.000So I've been trying, but it's been a little tough.
01:35:08.000So I, but you're saying, I think you're saying, is Egypt and Rome?
01:35:25.000Homeland Henry says, Have you read any Machiavelli?
01:35:28.000Well, I've read The Prince, as everyone has, but not anything further.
01:35:33.000You know, interestingly enough about The Prince, I don't know how true this is or not, but I've heard this before.
01:35:40.000Libertarians say, That the Prince was actually an anti government treatise, but it was written at the time when that kind of thing would be frowned upon.
01:35:48.000So they, in a very sneaky way, made it about, like, oh, isn't it so cool to be a Machiavellian?
01:35:56.000Well, I mean, this is where we derive Machiavellian, but isn't it cool to be a cunning and brutal leader?
01:36:01.000And that was supposed to be like a way to present a very libertarian argument, which is skepticism of power, but in a way that is flattering to the ruling class.
01:36:11.000So the ruling class would read it as, Oh, we're geniuses.
01:36:32.000Well, about Israel in particular, there's a great book called The Israel Lobby, which is a starting place for anybody by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Waltz.
01:36:43.000There's a great book called Against Our Better Judgment by Allison Weir.
01:36:46.000These are my first two that I recommend to anybody.
01:36:51.000If you just look into it, and I've gathered over the course of many, many debates, you know, I debated Aaron Bandler, Will Chamberlain, Jacob Wolf, you know, countless Zionists.
01:37:02.000Will Chamberlain a second time, who is the Halsey, many, many people on the subject.
01:37:08.000And so over the course of many debates, I'll have to publish the Google Docs because I have like a 15 page document.
01:37:14.000With all the information, stuff that you've probably never even heard before, that I haven't used in debates about the Israel debate.
01:37:21.000So maybe I'll publish that at some point in time.
01:37:25.000And let's see if we have any more Streamlabs.