America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - What the Right Can Learn From Jordan Peterson | America First Ep. 40

00:00:06.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:07.000 You're watching America First.

00:00:08.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:12.000 Lots of things to talk about, lots of things to get into, lots of things on Twitter, lots of things in the news.

00:00:19.000 It'll be a high energy, exciting show for you tonight.

00:00:22.000 I'm well rested.

00:00:23.000 I just took a nap.

00:00:25.000 Yesterday, I was not so well rested, a little bit erratic, a little bit manic on yesterday's show.

00:00:31.000 I go upstairs yesterday.

00:00:32.000 I'm like, How was the show, Mom?

00:00:34.000 She's like, Pretty good.

00:00:36.000 I can tell you didn't sleep.

00:00:37.000 I'm like, All right.

00:00:38.000 Thanks, Ma.

00:00:39.000 But I took a nap, just woke up about a half hour ago, so I'm all ready to go.

00:00:44.000 Straight from the barber, got a fresh, fresh cut, fresh, cool haircut.

00:00:52.000 And $30.

00:00:53.000 Can you believe that?

00:00:54.000 $30 for a haircut.

00:00:56.000 It makes me mad.

00:00:57.000 It just makes me mad how expensive things are these days.

00:01:02.000 And I never could have fathomed that.

00:01:03.000 You know, because when you're a youngster, when you're in high school or whatever, and you don't have to pay for anything, You don't know how much things cost, and $30 seems like a crazy amount, and it is.

00:01:12.000 It's nuts.

00:01:14.000 But that's what you've got to pay for if you want to get a nice, clean, primo bowl cut.

00:01:20.000 No, I'm joking, but like a regular haircut.

00:01:22.000 I don't want to do that.

00:01:23.000 Superclips stuff, not a sports clips kind of a guy.

00:01:26.000 Sports clips people, people who get their haircut at sports clips, these people should be the first to be deported.

00:01:33.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:01:34.000 I think we should deport people that go to sports clips before we deport illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:01:38.000 Honestly, I think it would be better. 1.00

00:01:40.000 Because all that stuff they say about, like, Contributing to the economy, like so much more so.

00:01:45.000 Like, I think they're more American than the people that go to sports clips.

00:01:48.000 That's how much I resent the people.

00:01:50.000 Because you watch the commercials for sports clips, and it's like, you're a bro.

00:01:55.000 Like, you're a mindless, soulless consumer.

00:01:58.000 You just want to watch the game, and you want babes. 1.00

00:02:01.000 You want babes massaging your fat, bald head while the big sports game massages your brain into submission. 1.00

00:02:09.000 Get the MVP, get the $14. 0.99

00:02:13.000 And it just makes me want to do crazy things.

00:02:16.000 Puts a lot of bad ideas in my head when I see that kind of thing.

00:02:20.000 Makes me go Travis Bickle mode.

00:02:21.000 I see red when I see these sports clips ads.

00:02:24.000 And when I drive by the sports clips and I see all the potatoes in there, just like the vegetables, just watching their sports game while they're getting their haircut. 0.97

00:02:33.000 And there's all these gray old boomers in their jerseys. 0.98

00:02:37.000 Anyway. 1.00

00:02:38.000 But so that's that.

00:02:39.000 I was driving home and very autumnal.

00:02:41.000 I'm getting in the spirit of the fall.

00:02:43.000 As you can see, we still have our pumpkin friend here.

00:02:46.000 Halloween is on Tuesday.

00:02:48.000 Pumpkin is doing well.

00:02:50.000 We got a big Halloween episode coming up on Tuesday.

00:02:53.000 Big special.

00:02:54.000 We're going to do a call-in show.

00:02:55.000 I'm not sure we're going to have to coordinate with James because he's got overdrive, but I'd like to do a longer show.

00:03:01.000 I'll be carving a pumpkin.

00:03:02.000 I'm getting into the spirit.

00:03:03.000 And I think the autumn, I think the fall appeals to us so much.

00:03:08.000 It's a special time of the year for us in particular because Western man, and I think we all feel this, Western man, Western civilization is in the autumn.

00:03:19.000 Of its life cycle, in the autumn of its lifetime, in the sense that the vibrance, the life of summer, all the beautiful, lively things, all the great culture, a once great culture civilization is now decaying, fading away into a lesser, late stage civilization, running out of energy, running out of will, running out of creativity.

00:03:44.000 And we are in the autumn of our years, so to speak, in terms of our civilization cyclically.

00:03:50.000 So I drive down the street.

00:03:52.000 And it's very scenic in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:03:54.000 I have to say, it's one of these things I'll never forget when I grow up.

00:03:57.000 But you drive down the street and you see the leaves changing colors.

00:04:00.000 You see the reds and the yellows and the greens.

00:04:03.000 And you're reminded about the mortality, the mortality of man, of individuals, and the mortality of the place we live in, of the country, the civilization at large.

00:04:14.000 And we all feel that.

00:04:16.000 That's why it resonates with us, I think.

00:04:18.000 It beckons to us, it calls to us that we're coming home, essentially, with our civilization.

00:04:24.000 But that's your esoteric, wistful autumn posting.

00:04:29.000 We've got to get into the issues.

00:04:31.000 What's going on with this?

00:04:32.000 Why does this do this?

00:04:33.000 It wasn't doing this before.

00:04:36.000 Come on.

00:04:38.000 Why does it do this?

00:04:41.000 Why does it do you see this?

00:04:42.000 Why is this doing that like that?

00:04:44.000 I don't know.

00:04:46.000 I'm about to throw a fit about this.

00:04:46.000 Whatever.

00:04:48.000 Maybe if I change the color settings, I don't know.

00:04:50.000 Do people really care?

00:04:52.000 I go to the trouble.

00:04:53.000 I drive to Walmart.

00:04:54.000 I pay the $2 for the pumpkin or the $3, and you got this cursed image.

00:05:00.000 You got this.

00:05:00.000 It's like corrupted by, I don't know, something.

00:05:05.000 Here, Stuxnet virus.

00:05:06.000 Let me go into my camera settings.

00:05:08.000 I'll play around with this for a hot sec so we can. 0.62

00:05:10.000 Get our pumpkin.

00:05:13.000 Okay, well, no, that's not going to work so much.

00:05:16.000 Maybe if we do that.

00:05:21.000 All right, that looks good.

00:05:22.000 That looks fine.

00:05:23.000 Okay, so there's our pumpkin.

00:05:25.000 We have some news to talk about, some news things to talk about.

00:05:28.000 I don't know if you've been following my Twitter timeline.

00:05:32.000 You like all that contact?

00:05:34.000 If you've been following my Twitter timeline today, I got into a little bit of a row with my buddy Hunter Wallace because somebody, one of the viewers, one of my kind viewers sent me an email with an article.

00:05:45.000 About some of these organizations that will be descending on Central Tennessee this weekend for the White Lives Matter rally.

00:05:54.000 And if you've heard anything about this, this is on Saturday.

00:05:57.000 All kinds of organizations are coming out in Central Tennessee.

00:06:00.000 It's in Shelby, Tennessee, and then another city a little bit east of there, I believe.

00:06:05.000 And they're going to put on two separate events, but on the same day White Lives Matter demonstrations. 0.60

00:06:13.000 And some of the organizations that will be represented, they have the right stuff.

00:06:17.000 Mike Enoch is going there to speak.

00:06:19.000 They have the League of the South.

00:06:21.000 They have Anticon, the Anti Communists.

00:06:23.000 They have the War Party or something to that effect.

00:06:26.000 They have the National Socialist Movement is going to be there.

00:06:30.000 And they call this collection, all these beauties, they call that the Nationalist Front.

00:06:35.000 And it's a front for something, all right.

00:06:37.000 I don't know if it's a front for nationalists, but it's a front for something.

00:06:41.000 Somebody sent me an article about one of these groups that is going there, the National Socialist Movement.

00:06:47.000 And if you know, I mean, people know this, but maybe. 0.53

00:06:49.000 Maybe if you're not sure, National Socialists, this is Nazis. 0.52

00:06:53.000 This is literal Nazis.

00:06:55.000 So when some of these guys say that we have this plausible deniability, like, they're going to call us Nazis anyway, bro.

00:07:01.000 Might as well embrace our LARPers. 0.86

00:07:03.000 Like, these guys are actually Nazis.

00:07:06.000 And they say that.

00:07:07.000 They don't even die. 0.65

00:07:08.000 They're not like the crypto Nazis. 0.61

00:07:10.000 Like, they, you know, the media claims everybody from George Bush to John McCain to Mitt Romney to Donald Trump is a crypto Nazi.

00:07:17.000 Like, they're secretly hiding it.

00:07:19.000 The National Socialist Movement, by virtue of the name, they are.

00:07:22.000 They are explicitly upfront about the fact that they are Nazis.

00:07:26.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:07:28.000 And so somebody sent me an article about this National Socialist Movement.

00:07:32.000 And it turns out that in 2007, because I had never heard about this before, I don't know if anybody who organized this has heard about this before, but in 2007, that same group was infiltrated by an FBI informant by the name of David Gledi or Getty.

00:07:47.000 I think it was David Getty in Florida.

00:07:50.000 He was the head of the Florida division of the National Socialist Movement, and he orchestrated a massive rally. 0.67

00:07:56.000 Near Orlando, of white nationalists, of neo Nazis, white supremacists.

00:08:02.000 I'm not even saying that as like they call themselves this. 0.96

00:08:07.000 They are actually neo Nazis in America.

00:08:10.000 I bet I'll get people in the comments that are like, Nick, why are you punching right?

00:08:14.000 Why are you counter signaling?

00:08:15.000 No, they call themselves that.

00:08:17.000 It's not even like Spencer's a white nationalist. 0.98

00:08:19.000 These guys are actually white supremacists. 0.98

00:08:22.000 They call themselves neo Nazis. 0.94

00:08:23.000 So this guy, David Getty, he starts this big rally in Florida.

00:08:28.000 200 people come.

00:08:29.000 This is in 2007.

00:08:31.000 And he rats out everybody that's there to the FBI.

00:08:34.000 He's an FBI informant.

00:08:35.000 He comes forward a couple of months later and says, Yeah, I work with the FBI.

00:08:40.000 He writes this massive expose and a book about it undercover in extremist movements in America.

00:08:46.000 And this same group, he infiltrated this group, the National Socialist Movement.

00:08:50.000 That's who's going to be marching in this rally on Saturday.

00:08:54.000 And then if you look into some of these other organizations, which.

00:08:58.000 No good for these other guys either.

00:09:00.000 Some of these other ones, you got the anti communist, where there were all kinds of leaks from their Discord page.

00:09:05.000 If you know Discord, that's like how these different groups communicate with each other.

00:09:10.000 I still don't know how it works so much.

00:09:13.000 We have a Discord.

00:09:14.000 I jump in there every now and again for America First, but I don't really know how it works.

00:09:18.000 I was never a big Discord user.

00:09:20.000 But there are all kinds of screenshots from the anti communist Discord server where they talk about massacres, they talk about political violence.

00:09:29.000 And, you know, I don't know if that's legitimate.

00:09:31.000 I don't know if they're joking around or what, but you have to understand that if you are a political movement, if you want to be taken seriously, you cannot joke about political violence.

00:09:43.000 You can't even approach joking about political violence.

00:09:46.000 And, you know, it can be in a tongue in cheek way.

00:09:48.000 Like, I get that, you know, people are goofing off.

00:09:50.000 They forget that they're putting things in print online, but especially if you're a right wing white advocacy organization, you cannot be talking about that stuff.

00:10:01.000 That is just fodder.

00:10:02.000 For the federal government, for intelligence services, for the media.

00:10:06.000 You start talking about political violence, there goes your movement.

00:10:09.000 I mean, forget about it.

00:10:10.000 Forget about anybody sensible listening to you.

00:10:13.000 Nobody likes a message of violence.

00:10:15.000 You know, you think, and you have all these crypto globalists who infiltrate these movements, telling everybody to read Siege, telling everybody to read the Turner Diaries.

00:10:25.000 These people are feds, man. 1.00

00:10:26.000 These people are infiltrators, or they're just dumb. 1.00

00:10:30.000 They're just stupid because anybody who's preaching a message of violent insurrection in 2017. 1.00

00:10:37.000 On the basis of a tiny political fringe. 1.00

00:10:41.000 And people say, oh, it's not political fringe.

00:10:44.000 It's totally sensible.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, okay, I get it.

00:10:46.000 I understand.

00:10:47.000 I'm with you on a lot of these issues, but you have to understand this is a fringe movement.

00:10:52.000 This is, by liberal estimates, 9% of the country.

00:10:56.000 And that's people that say that our views are okay, let alone membership, let alone people that would openly say they were with us.

00:11:03.000 So this is a fringe movement.

00:11:05.000 And people are talking about overthrowing the government, a revolution.

00:11:08.000 They're talking about post politics.

00:11:11.000 And it's just all wrong.

00:11:13.000 And I got into an argument with Hunter Wallace, who's the head of the League of the South.

00:11:19.000 And he's telling me just all these straw men, like, oh, everybody's infiltrated by feds, actually.

00:11:27.000 And his legions of toothless wonders from West Virginia are coming at me, telling me I'm a macaque, I'm disrespectful, and all of this.

00:11:35.000 And, you know, look, if you want to be taken seriously in this movement, all this stuff has to be left behind. 0.52

00:11:42.000 All this 1990s skinhead stuff.

00:11:45.000 We just cannot have it anymore.

00:11:48.000 There's just no way around that.

00:11:50.000 Say whatever you want.

00:11:51.000 Call me whatever name you want.

00:11:53.000 Like, do what you got to do, okay?

00:11:55.000 Call me whatever you want from your 1488 account with 23 followers.

00:11:59.000 Do what you got to do.

00:12:01.000 If you're serious about this, this has to be stated unequivocally.

00:12:05.000 We have to leave behind the 1.0 optics.

00:12:08.000 We have to leave behind, and I don't even consider that like us an extension of that. 0.99

00:12:12.000 Calling it 1.0 optics is silly in and of itself because these people are like dysgenic. 0.92

00:12:18.000 They're no better than, you know, some of the other people that we criticize. 1.00

00:12:22.000 So we have to let that stuff go.

00:12:24.000 When people hear about Jared Taylor, when people hear about Spencer, who.

00:12:29.000 Maybe they have a message worth hearing.

00:12:31.000 Maybe that's a message that could appeal to regular people, to that Catholic in Wisconsin that we talk about. 0.51

00:12:37.000 But when they hear about the name of our organization and the message that we're preaching, which is white advocacy, and this is sensible stuff, by the way, that they talk about in their homes. 0.60

00:12:46.000 This is stuff that they talk about at their dinner parties or, you know, not dinner parties, but if they get together with family, they talk in hushed tones. 0.52

00:12:54.000 Well, it's not politically correct, but white people are discriminated against.

00:12:57.000 People are whispering about this.

00:12:58.000 People are talking about this.

00:13:00.000 This is sensible.

00:13:01.000 This has been in the mainstream now to talk about this.

00:13:03.000 We talked on Nationalist Review on Wednesday.

00:13:06.000 There was an NPR study that came out.

00:13:09.000 55% of white people in this country say they feel white people are discriminated against. 1.00

00:13:13.000 So this is sensible stuff.

00:13:15.000 And you have a guy like Jared Taylor, a guy worth listening to.

00:13:20.000 And maybe people would listen to him, but they hear things like white advocacy, they hear things like white pride or something like that, pride in European heritage, white heritage.

00:13:31.000 And what's the first connotation for a regular, normal person who's not initiated into the internet culture?

00:13:36.000 I'm talking about your college kid.

00:13:38.000 I'm talking about any generation.

00:13:41.000 People act like Generation Z is totally hip and totally into it.

00:13:45.000 I'm Generation Z. My friends, they don't know who Richard Spencer is.

00:13:48.000 I'm sorry.

00:13:49.000 That's the unfortunate reality.

00:13:51.000 They don't know who Jared Taylor is.

00:13:52.000 I mean, they just haven't heard about that.

00:13:54.000 So their frame of reference when they hear about white advocacy, even though they might support our effort, our message, they might understand our paradigm, they hear white advocacy and they think about, American History X.

00:14:07.000 They think about Ed Norton with the swastika tattoo on his chest, curb stopping some unfortunate black person in Los Angeles.

00:14:14.000 They think of a skinhead rally. 0.95

00:14:16.000 They think of death metal.

00:14:17.000 They think of Tim and Eric in Columbine.

00:14:20.000 And that's what we've been struggling against for so long to overcome that because we have a message that is academic, scholarly, supported by the facts.

00:14:29.000 And all the media says, oh, it's the same old white nationalism in a suit.

00:14:33.000 It is totally not.

00:14:35.000 The white nationalism of the 1990s was a reactionary movement that came out of a rapid socio cultural change happening in the 90s, the mass immigration that we started to see.

00:14:45.000 And it was also a cultural movement as well. 0.55

00:14:48.000 I mean, these were dispossessed, displaced, unfortunate white people. 0.67

00:14:52.000 And, you know, I understand the concerns, the reaction, not so great, not so good looking. 0.86

00:14:57.000 But this is a real movement.

00:14:59.000 This is a real political ideology that has been put forth by people like Sam Francis, Pat Buchanan.

00:15:04.000 I mean, really smart people.

00:15:06.000 And we have to give ourselves a chance.

00:15:08.000 We have to allow ourselves to become great.

00:15:11.000 And in order to do that, we have to shed the silliness, shed the self indulgence, shed that stuff.

00:15:17.000 We see people like the National Socialist Movement show up to our rallies and they've got the neck tattoos, the arm tattoos, the chest tattoos. 0.55

00:15:26.000 They're in the black boots with the black cargo pants and the black shirts and they're doing the Hail Hitler and they have their ponytails.

00:15:33.000 We tell these people go home, go home and change. 0.91

00:15:37.000 Or don't come back.

00:15:38.000 You are not welcome here.

00:15:40.000 This is not your movement.

00:15:41.000 This is not for you.

00:15:44.000 If you're having rallies at all, I don't even think rallies are a good thing because the necessary component of a rally is the unpredictability, the chaos.

00:15:51.000 I mean, that's what you invite when you have a rally, when you have that mass organization like that.

00:15:56.000 So I don't even, I'm not even for the rally. 0.60

00:15:57.000 But if you're going to have one, if you're going to have your White Lives Matter protest, and that's a good slogan, that's a good slogan to try out. 0.64

00:16:03.000 And they're going to ruin it with these literal Nazis that were infiltrated by literal federal informants less than 10 years ago. 0.55

00:16:14.000 I mean, you just can't make this stuff up. 0.54

00:16:16.000 And people are just following like sheep to slaughter.

00:16:21.000 They're just going along with it because they don't want to be the cock, right? 0.57

00:16:25.000 But that is, uh, that's a development with the Hunter Wallace, the White Lives Matter protest. 0.71

00:16:30.000 It's a shame that Mike Enoch is going to this.

00:16:32.000 It's unfortunate because I listened to his podcast.

00:16:35.000 Somebody sent it to me the other day, and we talked about it towards the end of the show last night.

00:16:40.000 He seems like a smart guy, funny guy, and he's more edgy than I like.

00:16:44.000 He's more explicit than I like.

00:16:45.000 I mean, that's fine.

00:16:46.000 He's taking a different approach.

00:16:48.000 Um, but I don't know why he's associating with these guys. 0.92

00:16:51.000 I don't know why he's associating with these clowns because he's not these guys.

00:16:54.000 He's not, I mean, he's a little bit out there, obviously, if you read his, uh, That big spread about him in the New Yorker.

00:17:00.000 He's a little bit out there, but I mean, he's not one of these skinheads from the 90s.

00:17:04.000 So I don't know what the hell these guys are doing there, the right stuff.

00:17:07.000 It's a big mistake, in my opinion.

00:17:09.000 And that'll be one of the things we'll talk about.

00:17:11.000 Mike Enoch will be coming on this show on Wednesday of next week.

00:17:17.000 So we'll be excited to have him talk about optics.

00:17:21.000 And somebody was saying it was like a debate, like it's going to be super contentious.

00:17:24.000 I'm not having him on to debate, I'm having him on to have a genuine discussion.

00:17:28.000 And I think anybody that watches my debates, Or anytime I have a guest on, it's very civil.

00:17:34.000 You know, I mean, even if you watch it with Will Chamberlain, the buildup to the debate was very hostile and very ugly.

00:17:39.000 And even during the debate, Will was very condescending.

00:17:42.000 But if you watch me, I mean, I listen to the other side.

00:17:45.000 I listen to what people are saying.

00:17:47.000 I give a thoughtful response and in a friendly way.

00:17:47.000 I think about it.

00:17:50.000 I mean, we're all here trying to achieve the same things.

00:17:53.000 And, you know, even James, because we're also going to have Richard Spencer on Nationalist Review on Wednesday, or at least we invited him on.

00:18:01.000 He DM'd me and he was like, you know, I'll come on Nationalist Review.

00:18:04.000 I said, okay, you know, how does that work?

00:18:05.000 Wednesday work, and we haven't heard back from him.

00:18:08.000 But it's looking like Spencer will be on Nationalist Review, the podcast in the morning.

00:18:13.000 Enoch will be on the show later in the day on Wednesday.

00:18:16.000 And it's funny because, you know, also we were DMing in our company DM group, and he's like, you know, there's a lot of bad blood between you and Spencer.

00:18:23.000 And I said, you know, I don't see it that way.

00:18:25.000 I don't think we have bad blood.

00:18:26.000 Like for Twitter, the exchanges between me and Spencer, in my opinion, I don't know, maybe I'm misreading the tone of them.

00:18:33.000 Maybe I'm like not reading it in the snarky, like, fashion that it is.

00:18:37.000 But I read Spencer's tone as pretty cordial, as pretty civil, and I thought we had a pretty nice exchange on Twitter.

00:18:44.000 So I look forward to talking to them and figuring this out.

00:18:47.000 As leaders in this movement, you know, I'm not trying to take anything from them, I'm not trying to co opt anything, but as somebody with an opinion, as somebody who has convictions about this and somebody who's gaining presence in this movement, I think it's important that we have this conversation because these things, I mean, optics, rhetoric, the federal infiltrator question, I mean, these are things that make or break a political movement, and it needs to happen.

00:19:11.000 So.

00:19:12.000 It'll be nice to have a little Congress of the Minds, a little great mind alt right, like quasi alt right summit going on on Wednesday.

00:19:19.000 So we're looking forward to that.

00:19:20.000 But that's the Twitter drama.

00:19:23.000 We had some other things happening in the news as well.

00:19:26.000 As you know, today President Trump declared the opioid epidemic a public health emergency.

00:19:32.000 And it's about time.

00:19:34.000 This is one of these issues I think that cuts to the core of identity politics and politics in general in this country.

00:19:41.000 This is one of the metaphysical, like metapolitical things going on.

00:19:46.000 Where you have this crisis, and I didn't even realize the magnitude of this.

00:19:50.000 I hear the numbers, and we talk about this on Nationalist Review a little bit, but I had no idea 140 people a day die because of opioid abuse, because they're abusing prescription pills and things like that.

00:20:04.000 I never realized the magnitude of that, that it was that bad.

00:20:07.000 That's more than, and Trump quoted this number, that's more than gun homicides and motor vehicle accidents combined.

00:20:13.000 And motor vehicle, that's huge.

00:20:15.000 I mean, that's one of the leading causes of death in the country.

00:20:18.000 So this is.

00:20:19.000 Outrageous proportions, the opioid epidemic.

00:20:22.000 And you look into the causes of this.

00:20:24.000 You think about this for a moment, like what this represents for the West, what this represents for the country.

00:20:29.000 You think about who's affected by the opioid epidemic.

00:20:33.000 And it's like poor and middle class people, poor and middle class people in rural, suburban areas, white people predominantly.

00:20:40.000 It's prescription pills.

00:20:42.000 And you think about it in the sense that it's painkillers.

00:20:45.000 And that it's painkillers, I think, is so telling.

00:20:48.000 I mean, you couldn't write a better novel, you couldn't write a more symbolic, allegorical novel.

00:20:54.000 That we have this painkiller epidemic in the West that's killing us worse than motor vehicle accidents and gun homicides, painkillers.

00:21:02.000 I mean, think about that.

00:21:04.000 People who, you know, they get a prescription for back pain, right?

00:21:07.000 You know, they're working their nine to five for 25 years. 0.76

00:21:12.000 They're miserable.

00:21:13.000 They're trapped in their marriage. 1.00

00:21:15.000 They're trapped in their job.

00:21:16.000 They're trapped in their bills and piling up debt, and the culture is beating them to death, and they have no community.

00:21:23.000 They have no friends.

00:21:24.000 So they go and they get prescribed painkillers for back pain.

00:21:28.000 pain, right?

00:21:29.000 And we all know what that is.

00:21:30.000 So, this is really one of these issues that cuts to the core of what's going on in the civilization.

00:21:36.000 Why are people, why are our people in the most prosperous nation, in the freest nation, the most wealthy nation in the history of the world, the most powerful, the most peaceful, where there's abundance of everything, why are they killing themselves, self-inflicted deaths with painkillers, numbing themselves?

00:21:58.000 We were told for so long, We were told in the 1990s after the Cold War that this is it.

00:22:04.000 We won.

00:22:06.000 We found all the answers.

00:22:07.000 The answer was liberal democracy.

00:22:11.000 The answer was free market capitalism.

00:22:14.000 Look at all the wealth we have.

00:22:16.000 Look at this map of North Korea and South Korea at night.

00:22:20.000 Look at how lit up South Korea is.

00:22:21.000 The wonders of material goods, of capitalism, urbanization.

00:22:26.000 Every human want, every human desire, every human impulse is answered for by an Amazon service, by a delivery truck.

00:22:34.000 You want your book, you want your groceries, you want your.

00:22:37.000 That's what I think in terms of food and books, right?

00:22:40.000 But you want anything.

00:22:40.000 It could be delivered to your door.

00:22:42.000 Now you set up a camera in your house and they open your door and deliver it inside your house.

00:22:46.000 You could have anything you want.

00:22:49.000 And that was supposed to be the answer.

00:22:53.000 We were told that was the answer.

00:22:55.000 We were told that was the end of history, that no more things would happen.

00:23:00.000 This was the final achievement of political development, economic development.

00:23:04.000 We found out the answers.

00:23:05.000 Through enlightenment, through reason, through economic prosperity.

00:23:10.000 And lo and behold, 20 years later, as we've sort of been floating around in this limbo, we found out that it's not sufficient.

00:23:18.000 And actually, it is a pestilence, this abundance.

00:23:22.000 It is a pestilence.

00:23:24.000 The lack of want, the lack of meaning.

00:23:28.000 This abundance has been, I think, worse for people.

00:23:31.000 You know, because you think of it, you really have to think of it where people, by all economic measures, by all the data that's provided by like the United Nations, Millennium Development Goals, and things like that, by Thomas Sowell's calculations, the middle class has been getting richer.

00:23:47.000 And even though their income has, you know, maybe been going down or stagnating, well, they've become more wealthy because their houses have gotten bigger, their cars have gotten nicer, their appliances have gotten better.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, but at the same time, people have been drifting further into debt.

00:24:02.000 People have been having less kids.

00:24:04.000 People have been becoming more atomized. 0.99

00:24:07.000 Communities have been pillaged and destroyed by all kinds of horrible social and policies from the federal government where they introduce refugees, they introduce immigrants, they introduce non whites into white communities. 0.97

00:24:20.000 If it's like above a certain percentage of white people because they want to promote diversity, they want to destroy any kind of cohesion, any kind of homogeneity. 0.88

00:24:30.000 And it speaks to, I think, this crisis of soul in the West that cannot be fixed with. 0.53

00:24:35.000 Tax policy cannot be fixed with a bill, cannot be fixed even with a wall, unfortunately.

00:24:42.000 And that's where I come at this question of the alt right.

00:24:46.000 When they talk about the racialism, when I talk about Christianity, for example, and that caused a big row, that caused a big controversy on the alt right when I said, we're not going to save the country unless we re embrace Christianity, we re embrace Christ, the religion of our people, the Faustian Western Christianity of our people.

00:25:05.000 And I wasn't that specific in the tweet, but something along those lines.

00:25:10.000 And people basically came at me.

00:25:11.000 I had people calling me.

00:25:12.000 I had people DMing me, telling me, no, we made it clear that we have this consensus on race.

00:25:18.000 And that's the only thing that we're really allowed to talk about.

00:25:21.000 That's the only thing, like religion's too controversial.

00:25:24.000 Economics, healthcare, it's not important enough.

00:25:26.000 It doesn't really matter. 0.99

00:25:27.000 We're talking about race, ethnostate, white stuff. 0.91

00:25:30.000 Like that's it. 0.69

00:25:31.000 Racialism in and of itself is not sufficient. 0.55

00:25:34.000 It just isn't. 0.83

00:25:35.000 And it isn't for all these people, probably in predominantly white communities. 0.94

00:25:40.000 Who are killing themselves with painkillers.

00:25:42.000 You know, ask the people in Appalachia how the ethnostate's working out for them.

00:25:46.000 Ask the people in rural Illinois, suburban Illinois, suburban Ohio, rural Ohio, rural Pennsylvania, suburban Pennsylvania, how the ethnostate's working out for them.

00:25:57.000 Because you look at the demographics of the people dying in this opioid epidemic, and it's white people in white communities, right?

00:26:04.000 So obviously, racialism is not sufficient to answer these questions.

00:26:07.000 And I have such a problem with that simplistic, Like one size fits all, this is the answer to everything. 0.57

00:26:13.000 Understanding it's a much more complicated picture than if we just get out all the people that don't look like us, if we just got out all the, we deport all the illegals and we close all the borders, it'll fix everything. 0.90

00:26:24.000 You know, don't get me wrong. 0.93

00:26:24.000 I'm for that. 0.93

00:26:25.000 I'm for deporting illegals and getting people that are not characteristically American to self deport and stopping immigration for a short time. 1.00

00:26:35.000 But that is not, that does not answer everything. 0.99

00:26:37.000 That does not answer for the fundamental question.

00:26:40.000 I mean, that fundamentally addresses a symptom.

00:26:43.000 Of the real problem.

00:26:44.000 You have to think why have people abdicated things like politics?

00:26:48.000 And before you even think why have people abdicated their political responsibilities and like voting responsibly, why have people abdicated their parental responsibilities?

00:26:56.000 Like, think of that.

00:26:58.000 Shouldn't that be the pressing concern?

00:27:00.000 Why have people abdicated their parental responsibilities, their responsibilities to themselves?

00:27:05.000 You look at people, the obesity epidemic, in addition to the opioid epidemic, you have all kinds of epidemics of people killing themselves, people ballooning up to 300 pounds. 0.94

00:27:14.000 They look disgusting.

00:27:16.000 You have these divorces because people are not happy with each other because they're not like great people, to be quite honest.

00:27:24.000 They're not living out to their fullest potential.

00:27:27.000 That's the crisis that's going on here.

00:27:28.000 And if we have answers for that question, we win the lottery, man.

00:27:33.000 We win the whole game.

00:27:34.000 You look at the success of a guy like Jordan Peterson.

00:27:37.000 That should be our role model for this movement. 0.96

00:27:39.000 And in before people say, Jordan Peterson doesn't, you know, autistically saying, Jordan Peterson doesn't talk about Jewish people, and therefore I'm like shilling for a cuck.

00:27:50.000 Think of the influence that Jordan Peterson has.

00:27:52.000 Think of the profound influence that Jordan Peterson has had on actual real lives of people.

00:27:59.000 And look no further than his Patreon.

00:28:01.000 For evidence of this, his Patreon is up to, it's something crazy.

00:28:05.000 It's something like, and I'm going to botch this, but it's something like $40,000 a month.

00:28:11.000 No, I think it's more.

00:28:11.000 That sounds right.

00:28:12.000 I think it's much more.

00:28:13.000 I think it's like $80,000 a month he's making on Patreon.

00:28:18.000 Yeah, that sounds a bar.

00:28:18.000 It's like $70,000 or $80,000 a month.

00:28:21.000 A month!

00:28:22.000 That's what some people make in a year.

00:28:24.000 He's making that in a month.

00:28:25.000 And he doesn't have that many Twitter followers, like comparable to Alex Jones or whoever, but he's making like a million dollars a year on top of what he's already making on Patreon.

00:28:34.000 And I imagine this is because his content, number one, it's so damn good, okay?

00:28:39.000 It's so good.

00:28:40.000 I mean, you're really getting quality stuff when you hear him.

00:28:44.000 It's original thoughts, it's original formulations, it's articulate.

00:28:48.000 He's referencing all kinds of things.

00:28:49.000 I mean, you're really getting a lot out of it.

00:28:51.000 And there's a wide array of it, variety of it.

00:28:54.000 There's so much of it.

00:28:55.000 I mean, he's really saturated it with good stuff.

00:28:58.000 And number two, not only is it good content and there's a lot of it, but number two, because it strikes people, Right where they live.

00:29:05.000 It really cuts people to the core.

00:29:07.000 And why he's so successful at that is because he really cares.

00:29:11.000 And that's at the end of the day what it's all about.

00:29:13.000 He really cares about these people.

00:29:15.000 And you can see it when he's doing his biblical lecture and he starts like crying because he's talking about this stuff.

00:29:20.000 He's so passionate about it.

00:29:22.000 And we could, we could take a page out of his playbook in the sense that talk about the things that will resonate with people, that people really care about.

00:29:29.000 Put yourselves in other people's shoes.

00:29:31.000 Put yourself in the shoes of my barber, in the shoes of, You know, a taxi driver in the shoes of somebody, you know, a cashier at Walgreens, you know, the busboy, the waiter at the restaurant. 0.96

00:29:44.000 And so many people might turn their noses up and say, you know, well, they don't read Spengler, they don't read Yaki, and therefore they're not worth our time.

00:29:52.000 They're not, oh, we're a little bit more advanced than this.

00:29:54.000 You have to really get inside these people's heads and fulfill their needs and their deep needs of wanting to belong, wanting that higher meaning.

00:30:02.000 If we can answer those questions in a political movement, you've won. 0.81

00:30:07.000 That gets you the Generation Z demographic done.

00:30:10.000 That gets you the Millennial demographic.

00:30:12.000 That gets you Generation X.

00:30:13.000 That gets you to an extent even boomers. 0.72

00:30:15.000 I mean, that wins the lottery for the whole thing. 0.88

00:30:18.000 And, you know, I think that's a good contrast.

00:30:21.000 I think that's a good parallel there between Jordan Peterson and some of these guys on the alt right.

00:30:26.000 Because you've seen that Jordan Peterson has been a rocket ship.

00:30:29.000 He's a household name.

00:30:30.000 Like all my friends know about him.

00:30:32.000 All my friends watch his content.

00:30:34.000 All my friends could talk about the books he's reading.

00:30:36.000 My friends are reading the books he recommends, they're reading Nietzsche.

00:30:39.000 They're reading Jung.

00:30:40.000 They're reading all these things.

00:30:41.000 They're reading Dostoevsky.

00:30:43.000 All my friends in college knew of him, talked about him.

00:30:45.000 All my friends from high school know him, talk about him.

00:30:47.000 My parents have heard about him.

00:30:50.000 People know who this guy is, and they're taking his recommendations.

00:30:53.000 They're reading his books.

00:30:54.000 And you know what they're learning?

00:30:56.000 Sure, they're not reading Culture of Critique, granted.

00:31:00.000 They're not reading what's that one guy who does this, Toland or whatever, his biography of Hitler.

00:31:07.000 They're not reading political stuff.

00:31:09.000 They're not reading explicitly political stuff.

00:31:11.000 But think about it.

00:31:12.000 Think about it for a moment.

00:31:13.000 What are they reading?

00:31:14.000 What is Jordan Peterson getting them to understand?

00:31:17.000 Personal responsibility.

00:31:19.000 That's his meme clean your room.

00:31:20.000 What does that mean?

00:31:21.000 Take responsibility for your own actions.

00:31:23.000 He's telling people to get married, to be in healthy relationships, to start families, to become well adjusted, to take your fate into your own hands, to become who you are in a phrase and an adage.

00:31:35.000 And so while it's not explicitly political, it is achieving all of the ends that we would like to see.

00:31:42.000 I mean, think of that.

00:31:43.000 We want to mold culture, we want to mold humanity, but we're doing it through very offensive, uncomfortable political messaging that is third rail, people don't want to touch it, people don't like it.

00:31:55.000 And Jordan Peterson's coming at it from a completely apolitical, like deliberately apolitical place, and he's motivating people to do all the things we would like to see them do. 0.63

00:32:05.000 Like Spencer and Enoch are telling them, like, clean your room because the white race needs you.

00:32:10.000 And people are like, I'm sorry, I don't really relate to that. 0.98

00:32:15.000 Jordan Peterson is saying, like, clean your room, it's your responsibility and whatever, and people are doing it.

00:32:20.000 So that's a good contrast, I think, to draw.

00:32:22.000 So the opioid epidemic, I think it really allows us to see.

00:32:27.000 Like, where the problem is, so that we can treat it at its root.

00:32:30.000 I mean, you want to figure out, and ultimately, you want to fix the civilization, you want to fix the country, you have to answer the core problems.

00:32:37.000 You have to.

00:32:38.000 And you have to care about where those are and where the real solutions are.

00:32:42.000 Like, no matter what, the real issue is over here.

00:32:45.000 You can say it's one thing, you can pretend it's your thing, you can pretend it's your studies and your podcast or whatever that can answer it, but the issue's over here.

00:32:54.000 And if you care about solving it, you go to where the issue is, you go to where the people are.

00:32:59.000 You know, you don't expect the people to come to you.

00:33:01.000 You go to where they are.

00:33:03.000 And that's how you do it. 0.99

00:33:04.000 These people that are killing themselves with the painkillers, they're not killing themselves because, like, black people are in their neighborhood.

00:33:11.000 They're not killing themselves because, I mean, to an extent, some of the economic anxiety is caused by migration.

00:33:19.000 But for a lot of them, I don't think that's the case.

00:33:21.000 I think it's the prevailing culture.

00:33:23.000 And people feel this.

00:33:24.000 People know what I'm talking about.

00:33:25.000 My parents feel this.

00:33:26.000 I feel this.

00:33:27.000 And a lot of it has nothing to do with the culture.

00:33:29.000 Certainly, that's a part of it, but I think that's a symptom rather than the, uh, Rather than the illness.

00:33:34.000 So good on President Trump for noticing this, acting on this.

00:33:38.000 This kind of stuff, this kind of action is going to win him the Rust Belt and the Midwest.

00:33:43.000 Mark my words. 0.81

00:33:44.000 This kind of implicitly pro white treatment for America, I think, will win him and consolidate like a white vote in 2018 and 2020. 0.91

00:33:54.000 Because you look at the states affected, it's places like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin. 0.87

00:34:01.000 I mean, places like this.

00:34:03.000 So that'll be good.

00:34:04.000 You can definitely hear sort of an implicit tone there, like we know what he means, sort of a thing.

00:34:10.000 I don't know if he knows that consciously, but I think that's just instinct.

00:34:14.000 I think that's just intuition in terms of that.

00:34:16.000 But so that's the opioid crisis.

00:34:18.000 Hopefully that starts to get better.

00:34:19.000 It's really a tragedy.

00:34:20.000 It's really a tragedy to see so much wasted potential, so many people that are killing themselves.

00:34:27.000 It should all work out.

00:34:28.000 It should all be so good.

00:34:30.000 And it's just not for so many people.

00:34:33.000 You would think, You'd think people are fine.

00:34:35.000 If aliens came down from another planet and they saw what was going on, they would think everything was okay.

00:34:41.000 They would see skyscrapers going up.

00:34:43.000 They would see that everybody has enough to eat.

00:34:44.000 Everybody has abundant entertainment.

00:34:47.000 Look at how cheap everything is.

00:34:48.000 I mean, we talk about things getting relatively more expensive.

00:34:52.000 But comparatively, if you talk about over the past 200 years, the amount of entertainment that's available at your disposal for seven bucks, you know, or to get an iPhone in your hand for very cheap, you know, if you buy the older models.

00:35:05.000 Or you buy a movie ticket or whatever, all the books that are available, libraries, all the infrastructure, all the food and everything else, housing.

00:35:12.000 I mean, the abundance that we have. 0.99

00:35:14.000 Anybody from a foreign country would come here and think, how can people be killing themselves? 1.00

00:35:19.000 Why would people be killing themselves? 1.00

00:35:21.000 And we're figuring that out every day.

00:35:23.000 We're figuring it out that it's not enough.

00:35:25.000 This was the wrong thing to order our society around.

00:35:28.000 We decided like 300 years ago, we were going to order everything around pure reason, pure empiricism, pure enlightenment stuff.

00:35:36.000 Forget God, forget religion, forget ritual, tradition, et cetera, et cetera.

00:35:40.000 We'll shed all that off like an old skin and we'll emerge anew as this liberal, enlightened people. 0.99

00:35:46.000 And it sucks, dude. 1.00

00:35:48.000 It sucks. 1.00

00:35:49.000 So that's the opioid epidemic. 1.00

00:35:51.000 Kind of a black pill because.

00:35:53.000 We have to come to grips with the gravity of the situation, which is a very despairing topic.

00:35:58.000 But it's a white pill because more than ever before, we're seeing like real issues.

00:36:03.000 We're moving away from the George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, like politics as usual, and we're getting to the real meat and potatoes.

00:36:09.000 So it's half and half.

00:36:11.000 So that is the opioid epidemic.

00:36:13.000 We have another, here's another, this is another half and half here.

00:36:17.000 This is something I saw earlier this week.

00:36:20.000 I was tweeting about this.

00:36:21.000 I don't know if you saw this, but what was this, Saturday or Wednesday?

00:36:25.000 Wednesday, after I. Did the Nationalist Review podcast with James after we finished taping that?

00:36:30.000 I go on Twitter and I saw that I had lost 300 followers in one minute.

00:36:35.000 I was at 13,900 one moment.

00:36:38.000 I refreshed the page, I was at 13,600.

00:36:40.000 And I saw the same thing happen to Peter Sweden, same thing happened to American Renaissance, same thing happened to a number of other prominent accounts, James included.

00:36:51.000 And it turned out that Twitter had taken it upon themselves to lock all kinds of alt right, right wing accounts.

00:36:57.000 For fear of automated activity, which violates the terms of services.

00:37:01.000 And so people had to go in and put their phone numbers in to regain access to their accounts.

00:37:06.000 So I got my numbers back, but people had to go in and adjust it.

00:37:09.000 And then I found out Gab posted this, which Gab is like the alternative to Twitter.

00:37:13.000 They posted this roadmap for the timeline for these new rules that are going into effect with Twitter.

00:37:19.000 And you got to look this stuff up, man.

00:37:21.000 I mean, you can't make this up.

00:37:23.000 So over the course of the fall season, they're going to put forth all kinds of new restrictions, new regulations.

00:37:29.000 They're beefing up.

00:37:30.000 They're anti hate speech stuff.

00:37:33.000 And some of these measures include that they're going to suspend the accounts of, quote, violent groups, which, like, that could be anybody, right?

00:37:42.000 I mean, violent groups.

00:37:43.000 Do you think they're going to be banning Black Lives Matter accounts, right?

00:37:47.000 Because we all know that a Black Lives Matter affiliate killed five police officers in Houston, Texas last year or two years ago.

00:37:55.000 Is Black Lives Matter going to get their account removed?

00:37:57.000 Probably not. 0.68

00:37:59.000 But will Identity Europa, will Generation Identity, because they are in, like, the most.

00:38:04.000 Ancillary way vaguely associated with the guy that killed Heather Heyer at Charlottesville.

00:38:11.000 You bet those counts will get removed.

00:38:11.000 You betcha.

00:38:13.000 So that's the first one.

00:38:15.000 The other major one, they're going to get rid of accounts that put on hateful imagery.

00:38:21.000 Hateful imagery and symbols.

00:38:23.000 And it's so great because they're working with the ADL, and the ADL literally defines everything as a hate symbol.

00:38:29.000 Pepe the Frog is a hate symbol.

00:38:31.000 So here in 2017, It will become the norm.

00:38:36.000 It will become a codified rule that if you post a picture of Pepe, if you post the cartoon frog, which is beloved by all, that's a hate symbol and your account will be terminated and you cannot use Twitter.

00:38:52.000 A hate symbol.

00:38:53.000 Don't you love that Orwellian talk?

00:38:55.000 Like, we were led to believe back in the day that totalitarianism would come to us in an ugly industrial way.

00:39:03.000 It would come to us in this ugly, brutal, industrial capacity where it would be like, Hate everybody, and you know, you're a slave.

00:39:11.000 And it actually came to us in the opposite, where it's like this cult of anti hate and tolerance, and is the most oppressive ideology in the world.

00:39:21.000 I mean, think of that.

00:39:22.000 What is a hate image?

00:39:23.000 What is a hate symbol?

00:39:24.000 How is an image hateful?

00:39:26.000 Like, think of that.

00:39:27.000 What does that mean?

00:39:28.000 People regurgitate this stuff all the time without even thinking about it.

00:39:32.000 What is a hate image?

00:39:33.000 Can anybody tell me what that means?

00:39:35.000 A hate image.

00:39:38.000 How is an image hateful?

00:39:38.000 What?

00:39:40.000 How is a picture of something like if I take a picture of a European cathedral?

00:39:44.000 Is that hateful because it demonstrates European excellence and therefore it cuts in half the egalitarian narrative?

00:39:53.000 Can't make this stuff up.

00:39:54.000 Hate images and hate symbols will be removed.

00:39:57.000 So, because certain people use the Pepe symbol, that's now a hate image.

00:40:02.000 You can't use the internet.

00:40:04.000 And then the last major one they're going to go after people who glorify violence.

00:40:09.000 So, again, does that mean Call of Duty will get suspended?

00:40:13.000 Call of Duty glorifies violence.

00:40:15.000 Does that mean that new Wolfenstein game will get their account suspended because all their trailers are about killing Nazis, and you don't think that has an overtly political overtone?

00:40:26.000 Do you think those major corporations will get suspended?

00:40:28.000 Do you think anybody that goes after our guys is going to get suspended, like New York Times, Washington Post, that subtly implies an ethnic cleansing directed at white people?

00:40:37.000 Is that going to be targeted by these new terms of services?

00:40:41.000 What's most disturbing about this is we are coming to the point where we will see hard tyranny in our lives.

00:40:48.000 This is.

00:40:49.000 This is what everybody was worried about.

00:40:51.000 This is what everybody complained about, what everybody's freaking out about for so long.

00:40:55.000 You know, all the talk radio hosts are going to have the last laugh in 20 years, and we see a real hard tyranny in our lives.

00:41:02.000 For the longest time, everybody said, and all the right wingers warned us, they said, a soft tyranny is coming.

00:41:10.000 This is not good.

00:41:11.000 This is heralding an era of totalitarianism, of anti thinking, of authoritarianism. 0.99

00:41:18.000 And people said, You're crazy.

00:41:19.000 That'll never happen here. 1.00

00:41:20.000 You're nuts. 1.00

00:41:21.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:41:22.000 Everything's fine.

00:41:23.000 It's the freest country in the world.

00:41:24.000 There's no totalitarianism.

00:41:26.000 And we are rapidly approaching the point where if you say the wrong things, you will get into real trouble in real life.

00:41:34.000 That's a scary proposition.

00:41:34.000 I mean, that's scary.

00:41:36.000 It's chilling.

00:41:37.000 I'm literally shaking.

00:41:39.000 I mean, I had a buddy.

00:41:40.000 I talk about this all the time.

00:41:41.000 I have a buddy in Canada who got arrested for hate speech.

00:41:46.000 Hate speech, guys.

00:41:47.000 Hate speech.

00:41:48.000 I mean, how more totalitarian can you get?

00:41:50.000 Because what? 0.95

00:41:51.000 Because he said that Islam is a religion of war. 0.93

00:41:54.000 After how many terrorist attacks? 0.98

00:41:56.000 That's hate speech.

00:41:57.000 They arrested him, took him into custody, took his phone, downloaded everything on it, and then they said, okay, you can go away for a while, and we're going to investigate this.

00:42:07.000 My buddy, Peter Sweden, who I was on a live stream with him a couple of weeks ago with Tara McCarthy, he lives in Norway now, but his parents, who live in the United Kingdom, were questioned by police, the hate speech unit of the police in the United Kingdom.

00:42:23.000 Came and found his family investigating Peter Sweden because he was talking about or he was saying hateful things online.

00:42:30.000 We are rapidly coming into a hard tyranny, and that is a scary thing where we will be forced to lie.

00:42:37.000 We will be forced to pretend that these things are true. 0.98

00:42:41.000 We will have to pretend that multiculturalism is good. 1.00

00:42:44.000 We will have to pretend that transgenderism is fine. 1.00

00:42:46.000 And like a man with a penis and balls, because he like puts on a wig and makeup, we have to say that's a girl. 1.00

00:42:55.000 I mean, we're approaching that point. 1.00

00:42:57.000 Where, if we say that is not the same as a woman, you're going to face serious consequences. 0.94

00:43:02.000 Either you'll get your Twitter account removed, you'll get fired from your job, you'll get suspended and expelled from your school, or, you know, if we look at the precedent in Canada and in Europe, you may go to jail for that very soon.

00:43:14.000 So, very scary stuff.

00:43:16.000 I don't like it.

00:43:17.000 I don't like it.

00:43:18.000 It's no good.

00:43:19.000 But that's Twitter.

00:43:20.000 What can you do, right?

00:43:21.000 What can you do?

00:43:23.000 We have to very quickly fight to institutionalize this movement before they stamp us out.

00:43:27.000 Because guess what, folks?

00:43:29.000 Newsflash.

00:43:30.000 We get booted from Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, et cetera.

00:43:33.000 It's over.

00:43:34.000 Forget it.

00:43:35.000 That was our one way to fight back. 0.51

00:43:37.000 That was our like Arab Spring meme where we could spread our like dissent and everything.

00:43:43.000 They stamp us out of Twitter and YouTube.

00:43:45.000 We're gone.

00:43:45.000 Forget it.

00:43:46.000 We're gone.

00:43:47.000 No chance.

00:43:48.000 I mean, that's the real black pill. 0.98

00:43:49.000 You want to talk about a black pill?

00:43:52.000 If we don't institutionalize our power very soon politically, if we don't embed ourselves, if we don't get ourselves into the mainstream media in some capacity, we're over.

00:44:02.000 I mean, think of it.

00:44:03.000 If you don't have like all the YouTube channels, if you don't have this show, And you don't have like American Renaissance, and you don't have Spencer, and you don't have Daily Shoah, you don't have all these resources.

00:44:13.000 4chan gets taken off the internet.

00:44:15.000 Twitter has a complete genocide of all alt right Twitter accounts.

00:44:19.000 How are we going to reach people?

00:44:21.000 How are we going to get our message out there?

00:44:22.000 Newsflash, not going to happen.

00:44:24.000 We're going to be back to stuffing envelopes.

00:44:26.000 We're going to be back to stuffing our manifestos in people's mailboxes and our neighborhoods.

00:44:31.000 We don't have the manpower, we don't have the coordination, we don't have the resources.

00:44:34.000 It won't happen, it would be done.

00:44:37.000 We would be left to go on Gab. 0.96

00:44:39.000 And even on Gab, they're getting their heads chopped off.

00:44:42.000 They're getting all kinds of, you know, the companies that they use web hosting on are going after them for posts that people make on their website, too.

00:44:49.000 So there's no safety on the internet.

00:44:53.000 That's scary.

00:44:54.000 We got to get it together before that day comes because it will come.

00:44:58.000 So that's more black pills.

00:45:00.000 A lot of black pills on the show, but we're going to jump into our live chat. 0.68

00:45:04.000 Hopefully, our audience can get us to a happy place here, can get us to some white pills.

00:45:10.000 And let's see what we have in our super chat. 0.93

00:45:12.000 We got our buddy Simon Skola, who dropped us a shekel.

00:45:16.000 Thank you, my man.

00:45:16.000 Much appreciated.

00:45:19.000 J22 report.

00:45:20.000 Nice haircut. 0.98

00:45:21.000 You should try the slick back look.

00:45:23.000 Well, thank you, bud.

00:45:24.000 I like this look.

00:45:25.000 I like the.

00:45:26.000 This is kind of the style right now.

00:45:28.000 You got to blend into the style.

00:45:30.000 And also, the slick back look.

00:45:32.000 That look doesn't really work on me.

00:45:33.000 Number one, because of the shape of my head.

00:45:36.000 And number two, because of the thickness of my hair.

00:45:39.000 It's too thick to do that kind of thing.

00:45:41.000 Howard Morton.

00:45:43.000 Given me the single shekel, single shekel nationalism.

00:45:46.000 Thank you. 0.64

00:45:47.000 And we got Alec.

00:45:48.000 Isn't it interesting how the progressive left unironically advocates for the white man's burden?

00:45:54.000 Yeah, that is, I mean, just thinking in terms of progressive left these days, I mean, you have to really think about these terms.

00:46:01.000 Progressive.

00:46:01.000 Like, think about what it means to be progressive.

00:46:03.000 People take this as like, it's a synonym for Democrat, it's a synonym for liberal, it's a synonym for leftist, or a synonym for, you know, people we don't like, social justice warriors.

00:46:13.000 But if you think about what it means, if you read into the history of that term and that idea, You won't hear this.

00:46:19.000 You won't hear this on Charlie Kirk, by the way.

00:46:21.000 You won't hear this on Ben Shapiro.

00:46:23.000 A progressive is somebody who believes in progress.

00:46:28.000 They believe that the human condition can get better.

00:46:32.000 They think that society can get better through reason, through empiricism, through the scientific method, through reform, through education, you know, whatever it is.

00:46:42.000 But they believe that humanity can get better.

00:46:44.000 They believe in heaven on earth, essentially, that the difference between us and a society that is so good and so amazing is the necessary reforms an awakening into consciousness, a religious awakening, an ideological awakening, an ideological program, a new ritual, a new form of government.

00:47:04.000 The progressives, and this includes left and right, are people who believe that this can all get drastically better.

00:47:12.000 They're wrong.

00:47:13.000 They're wrong.

00:47:14.000 And they exist on both sides they're left wing and they're right wing.

00:47:17.000 The right wing people are just as progressive.

00:47:19.000 You think of the capitalists, like the free market zealots, the libertarians, they believe in progress too, except they believe it'll come about through free markets.

00:47:27.000 They think it'll come about through, you know, laissez faire.

00:47:29.000 If we get rid of government barriers and things, well, humanity will resume in a peaceful, voluntary group of associations.

00:47:37.000 And they are wrong.

00:47:38.000 They are wrong.

00:47:39.000 There has been a divination between heaven and earth since the beginning of time.

00:47:44.000 You will never, you will never create a utopia.

00:47:47.000 You will never create a heaven on earth.

00:47:49.000 And anybody that tries to get there, Fails and comes so short of what we could achieve if we accepted our limitations.

00:47:57.000 And you can read, there's a really good short story about this.

00:48:00.000 You could read, it's called The Ones Who Walk Away from Omalas.

00:48:03.000 And I read this in seventh grade.

00:48:06.000 Sheesh, so when was that?

00:48:07.000 That was 2010.

00:48:09.000 So I read that seven years ago.

00:48:11.000 And it was basically about this utopian society where everyone was happy, everyone was good.

00:48:16.000 And it was such a beautiful thing.

00:48:17.000 There was music, there was dancing, there was abundance, and everyone was happy all the time.

00:48:22.000 They had these holidays, they had these parades. 1.00

00:48:24.000 But the catch was, That in the basement of one of these buildings, there was like a stone dungeon with no doors, no windows, and inside of that stone dungeon sat a miserable, like stupid, destitute child. 0.99

00:48:39.000 And he was always sitting there in a pile of his own excrement and urine, and he was always crying, he was always miserable, and he would be eternally miserable. 0.99

00:48:48.000 And in order for all that prosperity to continue, it was necessary that he bore the brunt of all the suffering, that he was there. 0.98

00:48:56.000 Being miserable.

00:48:57.000 And that is a pretty good, I think, allegory for these progressives, where they think, you know, we're going to achieve it.

00:49:04.000 We're going to eliminate human suffering.

00:49:06.000 And that's like the United Nations, that's the Atlantic Charter, that's liberalism.

00:49:09.000 And that's so many trends that saturate the modern world that you can't even see them if you don't have a trained eye, if you haven't read old books.

00:49:18.000 You don't even see it.

00:49:19.000 But it's everywhere, it permeates everything that people think through science, through secularism, through civics, through, you know, some combination.

00:49:27.000 And both sides, everybody believes this.

00:49:30.000 It's all going to get better.

00:49:31.000 It won't.

00:49:32.000 It just won't.

00:49:33.000 Not going to happen.

00:49:34.000 It's always going to be, there will always be suffering because that's what life is, unfortunately.

00:49:40.000 That's the condition.

00:49:42.000 Those are the terms of services of life, pal.

00:49:44.000 So you try and get rid of that and you'll come up short every time.

00:49:48.000 But on to your question.

00:49:49.000 I know that's kind of a detour there.

00:49:53.000 But yeah, the progressive left, it is ironic because they do advocate like, Western norms are the best and everything.

00:50:00.000 I mean, there's so many hypocrisies and contradictions latent in leftism, in the left wing ideology in this country, that I don't even like to talk about it because any serious person who looks at it knows it's just intellectually a joke, it's a farce.

00:50:17.000 And the best part is it's designed to be that way.

00:50:21.000 It's designed to be deliberately confusing, deliberately contradictory, and paradoxical. 0.64

00:50:26.000 Read about the Frankfurt School.

00:50:27.000 Read about.

00:50:29.000 Cultural Marxism, some of these things that go on.

00:50:31.000 Like, I don't debate the left for a good reason.

00:50:34.000 There's a very, like, there's like this ancient deceptive quality to it.

00:50:38.000 There's like this ancient, it's almost like there was this text written 2,000 years ago. 0.63

00:50:42.000 And I'm not talking about, like, the Quran.

00:50:44.000 I'm not talking about like the Old Testament.

00:50:46.000 I'm talking about like something in between, like 200, 400.

00:50:50.000 These are numbers.

00:50:52.000 And there was like a book that instructed people how to lie.

00:50:55.000 And it's like this certain kind of deceptive messaging. 0.63

00:50:58.000 And you saw that in the Frankfurt School.

00:50:59.000 You saw that in Petersburg in 1917.

00:51:02.000 You saw that in Germany in the 30s.

00:51:05.000 And I, the 20s and 30s, I don't know.

00:51:07.000 It's like this very specific kind of reasoning.

00:51:09.000 It's almost like it's designed to be subversive.

00:51:12.000 It's almost like it's designed to be.

00:51:14.000 Deliberately destructive and chaotic and contradictory to people that are holding fast to their traditions.

00:51:20.000 Look, I don't know.

00:51:21.000 Don't look into this stuff, but I mean, that would be hateful if you looked into that.

00:51:24.000 But I mean, that's why I don't have on lefties on this show because they don't argue in good faith and they don't understand themselves.

00:51:32.000 We understand them better than they understand themselves.

00:51:34.000 So it's just unproductive at the end of the day. 1.00

00:51:36.000 That's why I like to debate conservatives and basic bitch conservatives because at least they're trying there. 1.00

00:51:45.000 They're not totally programmed. 1.00

00:51:46.000 I mean, they are to an extent, but I think.

00:51:48.000 They're a little bit easier to draw out, and you can show people that.

00:51:52.000 I think it's easier to break people out of the matrix when you show people the right wing and how dopey they are as well.

00:51:59.000 And what do we have here?

00:52:03.000 My name, Jeff, gives us the single shekel.

00:52:06.000 Thank you, my man.

00:52:07.000 N says, Reinhard Heydrich is a Fed.

00:52:12.000 Don't know who that is, but I'll take your word for it.

00:52:14.000 If you've got swastikas in the username, probably.

00:52:20.000 Simon Skola, how do you feel about Matt Heimback?

00:52:24.000 Literal armbands are a really bad look, but I still like him.

00:52:26.000 I don't know Matt Heimback.

00:52:27.000 I've heard a lot about him, but I've never seen him.

00:52:30.000 I've never heard him.

00:52:31.000 I don't know anything about him.

00:52:32.000 So anything that has armbands, I'm against.

00:52:35.000 Sorry.

00:52:36.000 You know, as much as you might like a single guy, and you know, there are some people that you like that have armbands, right?

00:52:42.000 But I just think it's a bad look.

00:52:44.000 It's too explicit. 0.56

00:52:47.000 And that kind of winking at the LARPy elements, that winking at the Nazi stuff, it's self indulgent. 0.62

00:52:54.000 And you do it at the expense of the movement. 0.53

00:52:55.000 So, while, yeah, like it's fun, I guess.

00:52:59.000 If you, you know, if you hate the system so much, you just want to give them the biggest middle finger possible.

00:53:04.000 That's the way to go.

00:53:06.000 But that's not the route to go if you want to see change, if you care about change.

00:53:09.000 So, I'll check them out, though.

00:53:11.000 We'll see. 0.98

00:53:12.000 JW, Double Shekel Club. 1.00

00:53:14.000 I like the double shekels coming in. 1.00

00:53:16.000 Thank you, folks.

00:53:17.000 Simon Skola, wear an orange suit for Halloween.

00:53:20.000 I'll wear an orange tie.

00:53:21.000 How's that?

00:53:22.000 I don't like the novelty suits.

00:53:23.000 I've always been against that look.

00:53:25.000 I, you know, in high school, um, People would always come with like the colored suits and stuff, and I would be like, no, thank you.

00:53:31.000 I'm talking about high school model United Nations.

00:53:33.000 That'd be weird if people are showing up to high school.

00:53:36.000 What high school did I go to where people are showing up in colored suits?

00:53:38.000 No, I'm talking about like speech team model UN where you'd have to wear suits.

00:53:43.000 You'd have all these jumokes come in, and they think they're really well dressed for wearing these like very loud colored suits.

00:53:49.000 It was never my style.

00:53:50.000 I'll wear an orange tie, wear a themed tie, but the suits, it's too gimmicky for me. 1.00

00:53:54.000 You know, I would always see like the patriotards. 1.00

00:53:58.000 In college, and they'd wear their American flag suits, and it's like you look like a retard, okay? 1.00

00:54:03.000 You look dumb. 1.00

00:54:04.000 So, we'll do the orange tie. 1.00

00:54:06.000 I'll meet you halfway there.

00:54:08.000 Undefined, I understand that we need to revitalize religion and see the benefits of it.

00:54:12.000 However, what percentage of normies will accept an ethnostate?

00:54:15.000 Then, further, what percentage would accept both? 0.76

00:54:18.000 You have to get this ethnostate out of your head.

00:54:19.000 You have to get this idea out of your head.

00:54:23.000 That is not something people are concerned about.

00:54:25.000 That is not something people understand.

00:54:27.000 That is not something that will win you an election or anything.

00:54:31.000 Anything like that anytime soon.

00:54:34.000 It's just no good.

00:54:36.000 The things that we need to do do not require talk of an ethnostate, okay?

00:54:40.000 And so it does us no good to talk about something that's completely unrelatable, irrelevant to most people.

00:54:45.000 I mean, people are paying for their taxes, they're paying their bills, they're paying for health care, they're trying to get good food and good education for their kids. 0.73

00:54:53.000 And you come at them telling them about this ethnostate, people are going to tell you one of two things. 1.00

00:54:59.000 One, you're a racist crank, you're an idiot crank who's trying to do something impossible, and they will not go with you. 0.99

00:55:05.000 So you have to give people something meaningful for them and also something that is achievable, that they believe is achievable. 1.00

00:55:13.000 If you have to sell people like against their best judgment that this is possible, you shouldn't be selling them this.

00:55:19.000 You know, like you shouldn't, hey, we're going to colonize multiple planets.

00:55:23.000 Join my campaign.

00:55:24.000 People are going to be like, yeah, whatever.

00:55:27.000 And Ethnostate is similar.

00:55:28.000 It's a castle in the sky.

00:55:30.000 Nobody's going to go for that. 0.87

00:55:31.000 So get the Ethnostate thing out of your head.

00:55:33.000 Focus on things that are tangible for people going to church, getting educated, having a family.

00:55:39.000 I mean, these are things that are doable, these are things that are constructive for people that will do better in their lives.

00:55:46.000 And, uh, I mean, that's how you would get a more homogenous society, is if you preach that message, you're putting the cart before the horse, talking about the long term goal like that. 0.90

00:55:55.000 So, I don't, you know, getting the normies to accept the ethnostate like that shouldn't even be a part of it. 0.63

00:56:01.000 Aaron West, if Twitter forces all the alt light to go on to Gab, they'll be forced to deal with alt right. 0.86

00:56:06.000 These are the people we want to convert.

00:56:09.000 No, not really.

00:56:11.000 I mean, Gab, you see that Gab is censoring people, and through no fault of their own.

00:56:16.000 And also, that should not be a part of the strategy, is to get chased off of a mainstream platform.

00:56:21.000 Right?

00:56:22.000 That should not be the agenda there.

00:56:23.000 Like, hey, if we get exterminated, if we get pushed off of the mainstream platform, we could reach people.

00:56:29.000 Then, I don't know, we could influence the influencers.

00:56:32.000 I don't know.

00:56:32.000 I mean, if the alt light is on Gab, the alt light will not be in a position to influence people on Twitter or YouTube.

00:56:38.000 I mean, that's what's coming.

00:56:39.000 So it's no good.

00:56:41.000 We'll have to.

00:56:42.000 I think there should be some cooperation between the two, but that's the wrong way to go about it.

00:56:46.000 We should have something in the middle where we draw alt light people more to the right in ideology and we draw all right people to the left.

00:56:53.000 Or not to the left, but more towards alt light in terms of rhetoric and optics.

00:56:58.000 Jordan Hoffman, take my shekels, Goy, gladly.

00:57:01.000 And thank you for the shekels.

00:57:02.000 We're running out of time here, and so we'll take these last two.

00:57:05.000 Trad American gives us a buck.

00:57:07.000 Thank you for that.

00:57:08.000 And George Menta gives us the double shekel.

00:57:11.000 And he says, Can you nag Mark Levin a little for me?

00:57:15.000 Mark Levin's one of the more tolerable guys.

00:57:18.000 But one of the things I didn't like about Mark Levin when I used to listen to him when I had a job in a warehouse.

00:57:25.000 And I had to listen to him for hours while I was packaging boxes of stuff.

00:57:28.000 He went off.

00:57:29.000 He was like one of these never Trump guys.

00:57:30.000 And I just, I hated that.

00:57:32.000 I'll come at you with more stuff because we're running out of time here.

00:57:34.000 Overdrive starts in a moment.

00:57:36.000 But, I mean, that was my biggest thing was this never Trump stuff.

00:57:39.000 He's one of these loud, like, I'm the big tough guy.

00:57:42.000 I'm the big loud guy.

00:57:43.000 I'm the big angry guy.

00:57:44.000 And it's like, you're obviously doing that for effect.

00:57:48.000 That's never jived with me.

00:57:49.000 You have to be pleasant, okay?

00:57:51.000 Nobody likes unpleasant, coarse, and it's associated with a certain type of people.

00:57:55.000 I'm not going to go there.

00:57:56.000 And Simon Skola with another buck.

00:57:58.000 We'll take that.

00:57:59.000 We'll wrap it up with that.

00:58:01.000 Thank you for all our super chat people.

00:58:04.000 Good questions tonight.

00:58:04.000 Good questions, good topics.

00:58:06.000 But that's our show.

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What the Right Can Learn From Jordan Peterson | America First Ep. 40

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